20 Episode results for "Gander Mountain"

Episode 5: Throwin' That Net Out

Singles Playbook

30:24 min | 1 year ago

Episode 5: Throwin' That Net Out

"We we loose threads fish catfish. Welcome to singles play. That was beautiful. I am the Modern Day Dr Seuss. Yes I don't I was GONNA say Edgar Allan Poe but you're not another level suzy there but maybe. I should release that children's book be kind of cute. With illustrations to demonstrate all of our most infamous catfish is in. Our life lives incredible. That'd be amazing. I'm I'm sorry and this episode if you haven't gathered is all about cat fishing and sleuthing and how they kinda catch them. Red handed in their own reis. We are fishermen. Were thrown that night out and we're getting them all side note. Nothing is more off pudding than a picture of a guy with a fish as his first dating profile PIC automatic swipe left. We'll talk about automatics by bluffs and writes in another episode but like come on guys. Fish envy dead animals like knack. You get that we live in Minnesota like up. North is fishing hunting. But we're not Gander Mountain. Don't hunt fish camp any who like we said this is all about catfish thing. I have been catfish many times like way more than I think. The average person. I'm actually coming into this episode with barely any cash experience. So I'm also hoping to learn something dear abby but what's what's funny is that I never like far enough into it. We're like I should be on an episode of catfish. It's more that like I. I know immediately when they're catfish like you can kind of tell a their pictures are just like way too hot a think so when you when. I matched this sounds like really sad but when I match the really hot guy on like like. There's no way we're it. Looks like literally model shots. Like the guy you've ever seen there's been many of those nine like and now they don't live here noth so with that being said. I've been able to I. Don't call them out when I figured out. I kinda stopped replying or whatever or I try to get more information out of them. Pets you waiting. Catfish is is what you're saying. Yeah I mean it's fun becomes game at some point is if you haven't been catfish before og set. You will be at some point in your online. Dating Life Are. Kinda high or you honestly could have been catfish have had zero idea right right right like you might be thinking. Why did he go? S- me well. He might have been someone completely different he might have been ci. He might have been a different. Hey you never know and please don't catfish yourself but just seems like don't don't do it like what's the point. Seems like a lot of work to pretend to be somebody. Worry right is already a lot of work to be me so I don't want to have to like be someone else right. It's kind of like I don't know if this is the second time we brought up the circle don't see us not flakes but if you have seen it. I would say like a third of those not more. Maybe half of the players on that show were cafeterias. Yeah they were. Yeah and thankfully the people who committed to the end none of them were catfish within one of them wants. Rebecca skip but he was also playing his girlfriend and so forget he. Is that kind of Lake. It's not needed a little bit bannered. Yeah but still nonetheless. It wasn't him but if you're not familiar with cafe. Shane Watch the circle. And you will get it. Yes if you are sitting here wondering what the Hell is catfish? It's where someone pretends to be someone else and over online. If it gets really far extreme into an online relationship watched the show catfish with Neva. Max they go across the US and they try to find these catfish people basically call him out rate. Yeah so they'll find them though they'll knock on their door me like who are you pretty much because most of the time. They're fake like relationships in these people will have a relationship with this person that they don't know and never see their face never. They may talk to them on the phone. But that's even rare like it's all over. The Internet like facebook could be instagram twitter emailing texting. Whatever and you usually don't get pictures or videos right like it's not just you or their favorite pitchers yard. They're fake pictures. You're not getting any real picture as you're not a yeah so you've developed this relationship and it could be over matter of a couple of months or could be seven years like you don't know and it can just get really far and so that's when even Max come into play. I feel like the majority of times at Islas. Catfish myself in it. Obviously nothing ever like. She didn't like literally last day of like talking to someone but immediately like always knew that they were catfish and I was always in the middle of a catfish bitch which I feel how I kind of learned how to how you became. Do a lot of this but I think like starting and not even high school. It was college my friends would come to me and be like find this guy and FBI hat would come on. I could find you actually do that for me. And I didn't even ask you to you like what's this guy's name. The guy that I will finally started talking to and she immediately had like has an instagram. Yes doesn't have. Facebook went on this whole list and I was like we always do it like I always do it. I could be. I am basically Liam Niessen taken. I will find you and I will not kill you so I've always been that person that my friends will like. Text me or come to me and be like. Can you find the person I usually can? There's been probably. I can count on my hand that many times that I haven't been able to find someone in that's how you know that they are catfish pretty much so starting out when you match with someone on the social media could tender bumble. We always mentioned those three because those are the three that were most familiar with. That doesn't mean those are the only three that views match dot com army like any of the more traditional. You can use it on literally everything and this also hunter reminds me if you watch parks and REC. Tom Haverford has a different Tom. For every letter of the alphabet. For out about that you up and so it's like you'd literally never know what side of people you're going to get so when you're starting out any match with someone a lot of times people will have like you get their first name. You get where they went to school and sometimes you get their job not necessarily where but the job title so how I always start. Is You know you're chatting whatever you try to get a little bit of information out of them just kind of like super subtle. You can ask them their job guessing about school. Some people get weird about jobs but yeah I mean if you especially if you have your job on your profile. I don't think there's an issue. Yeah asking for more details. You'll have to have your job title on your dating profile. So if you don't want people ask about it then dump it on your profile right people. Just think that you don't have a job. Which could be worse so maybe put your job on there so as you match with someone. Check out that information The first thing I always do is I check Lincoln. Yeah you told me. This was hilarious to me. Like if they're professional eighty percent of people are going to be on Lincoln especially at our age so I check I type in their first name type in whatever job title they have listed and if they have a college like you can usually narrow down pretty easily with their filters and if you can't find them on their best heilige strict number one or red flag number one and just kind of move onto the next thing and if it moves far enough that you have their phone number you type in their phone number. There's a lot of things you can do with that. So you can if you type in their phone number two google. It'll pop up. Usually you have to pay for getting all the information about it. But you don't need it. Don't pay for it and don't you can find where what city it's registered in if you know the area code then like obviously you don't really need to but a area code can say a lot about something or someone like if someone says that they went to like a prestigious school and their area code is showing like bunk. Minnesota probably not going to be. I do think you know you can take all the qualifications income to a conclusion but I will say like my area code still for my cell. Phone is different than where I live. Yes so like someone might live in California and have area code but them they'll move to wherever Florida bright so I get that. That's that's just a piece of the puzzle that you could start yet like think of. I don't know what show it's from. But the name of the guy and he has like the bulletin board behind him with all the different like connecting the dots. That's me pieces of paper in string like Gazza's boom like that is me when I'm trying to figure out someone's catfish so amazing like always save the number into your phone because then you can get their snapchat. You can look instagram like there. Are there certain things? Sometimes you can type in their phone number into facebook if it's connected like there's a lot that the phone number can tell you about someone. I feel like I'm in the presence of actual detective right now from goats of this is recorded. So we're GONNA go and catfish you can sink your contacts instagram. That's super easy if you can't find them. A lot of people will have their snapchat name in notting at the month snapchat. That can be. Kinda creepy like wait for that but you can you can sink your number in snapchat. Get their username. A Lotta Times will have their last name in it. So then you have his full name His or her full name. And then a Lotta Times. People have the snapchat and Instagram username. So you can take back. How AK- amy like? I I one of those yet. Same makes it super easy like my name is very generic so like I'm not. I'm kind of hard to find which makes it better but I mean you're not. I don't have that I was GonNa this many Catholics. He goes out there. Yeah no so and like you said it's consistent across myself Chattan facebook and instagram. But I will say that a guy that doesn't instagram. That's not a big red flag for me. That's pretty horrible. Yeah if guys do I mean they might eight. I would say it's probably fifty fifty dating history guys that had desert don't but if they have it they're never using it right and if they are using a lot like that's kind of weird it's weird and then the post that they have probably like twenty fourteen yeah which when it college parties or Italy when it was like came out. Yeah I think it was like twenty thirteen maybe a little bit port. Instagram's not yeah. I honestly think you're right with link. Din Yeah I I think it's one hundred percent. We were conditioned in college and again if they're like you said around our age even all but younger older Lincoln just conditioned like that's where you have to be and you really do to network pro one hundred percent like that's gone every job that I have right through Lincoln. Yeah so there you know. You're you heard of your first. Oh one thing that you can also do is you can take his pictures like save the pictures on your phone. Send them to your email on Your desktop or your laptop you can reverse look up his images and then that will tell you if there's like a public facebook or different places where they might have police pictures. I've never had something bad but that is but if you're looking at these pictures being like this it has like a getty stamp at the bottom. You're just like a watermark he likes to know like bit. Looks like I'm not saying there aren't guys that guy models out there like there definitely are. Yeah just like our female models but it's definitely like like you said if it's seeming too good to be true if there's no alike not to be honest guys that great with their pets so in dating profiles always like one grainy pick of them with like their mom or like their nephew their dog. Like if you're not seeing that in the profile That's a flag for me. I think. And if they're just like showing their body or the pictures may not look like the same person like they look the same person but they also kind of oddly Jones Rod flag. Yeah do you really WanNa be with the person I mean? We all types but like I don't want to be with a person that looks like manufacturer even if they are real no like the big biceps like taps and lake at just. I know that's just I would pass anyway. Even if they weren't real like anytime time I see a pretty boy. That sounds looks like well. She's like you look like you spent a Lotta time grooming yourself. Will you eat at a time for me? Yes it's the not needy. Don't be meaty on that needy. Do not be meaty there. It is tim coming close to the most recent catfish guy had he was probably unlike. Cheney wary I think this winter yet it was. It was definitely resetting. The last time I was actually on like bumble he was super q and immediately. Just Kinda I. I'm not sure because it said he lives in his bump profile said listen duluth but he like Tony. He lives in. Saint Paul which I was just Kinda like okay you might just not have updated it whatever. Yeah but his area code was from somewhere else so like so. There's three cities being thrown out. Right yes and then. He said he went to purdue and I was like what the actual so so he he claimed to be a pilot with Delta. So I immediately texted my cousin who's a pilot and as like a Delta pilot no he's so I'm like our pilots link ten step one and he was like how soon did he tell you that he's a pilot and I'm like he didn't tell me until I asked so. He's like Oh. Hey Oh. That's that's a good time. He also there's dumped it pilot speaking and knows he like in a relationship. Mary like what's history he I think he's in relationship last. I heard if he's not then. He's recently single dating. Probably a super arm near pilot. Yeah he he's also just kind of like a free spirit. I needed the dates. Yeah so he was him. We were going back and forth about like what to ask this guy to like. See if he's a real pilot so literally all of my questions to this guy. Army like interrogating probably go weird fascination with planes. Tell me more so. He was a pilot for a smaller company. Think before Delta you went to perdue pre school because produce the top schools for Asian so my cousins like okay that checks out like that's good everything that he said. I sent to my cousin that's facing a catfish resource. That's what your cousin is for pilots yet. Do you have specific Lake plane? You fly how does how does that work because I I don't I don't know. Yeah actually yes. Oh and he was like right now. I fly this wine and so I sent it obviously to my cousin. He's like okay. Checks out because that's what we have here. Minneapolis great like. That's what Delta has here Mike Great and he's like. Do you know what his name is because my buddies at Delta pilot and can look in the system and I'm like we don't need to go back. It'd be different if you were like actually looking to pursue this guy like you were like. Oh No this guy didn't have his last name either. Yeah and like I wasn't GonNa ask them for it after. I'm like literally interrogating him. Could you look by first name on all Delta pilots? Mark like how to work and that's is name by the way no we don't use really not in this podcast thank you. I just realized if he says he's from Duluth you've made so then. This is actually the day before I was going to visit my friend in DC. So that an adult oil. So I was flying Delta and I was like. Are you flying tomorrow like my plane? Says it's going to be like the one that you fly like. Oh my gosh. I didn't know and like you find him around. He's like no off dame that can kind of get to sit in the cockpit. Cal me references about the cockpit. Did we make that like do many too many so it turned out that I mean you never met him? I never I stopped talking to never responded to but we can pretty much conclude that he wasn't a catfish well. Okay so that's what I still don't get so he says he's from Chicago these days from Duluth but it says he's from Duluth bumble and that Hanta or do at an area code something different. So that's like the pieces weren't coming together. But all his answers about being pilot were and so I think he is a pilot. But I don't think it's him interest because he was very attractive and pilots are not usually hot. Yeah so maybe. That's a good point with cat fishing because they could be lying about their pictures. That could be lying about their job. I mean that would be Kinda weird by I mean it's bits and pieces to the whole profile might not be entire catfish. Yeah you could be catching a partial catfish. Yes Yeah Yep because he knows a lot about planes but maybe he's just not Abercrombie model on the side break then like walnuts funny so like I did reverse look up on. His picture is like nothing. Came Up. Couldn't find him anywhere on Perdue because obviously I had the commencement program up my face at her right now. I was determined to find the sky like command F. The commencement yeah like I did. I did program this is this is the farthest. I've ever gone trying to find a person if this sounds like you as you're listening to this slide right orgy. Let us know if you're real if your pictures are real. You're a real pilot. Which kind of sounds like you are? I think you're a real pilot but you gave a different name and different pictures. 'cause he also used like a guy name was oh he's not gonNa say you're a Hawkeye name. Everyone hanging Chad Brad. Different than that. I think he was a partial cache. I really admire the steps. That you're taking to sleuth on these guys it's important. It is important very important. Yeah you can never be too sure so to reiterate or steps. We've taken quite a journey. We have taken to the delta pilot. Yes so start with Lincoln yet. Find Him on Lincoln. If he's not there red flag find him. Keep a list of these red flags. Just a tally. Yes find him Using his phone number like you can let the conversation. Go that far unless you are a hundred percent absolutely certain that he is fake but you can let it go far. You can block them later. Say DECIDE OUT. Quick that a lot of the guys that have been talking to lay off. This is just Corona virus related. That people are desperate to give up their numbers. But usually you don't have to try that hard guys are surely like I hate messaging over XYZ dating using. Here's my number yet so you really want to try that hurt. That's true that's true uses number. Look it up in any fashion that you can instagram facebook snapchat. Google you name it. You can probably find something if you're still coming up short scary. All Red flags like to move out bunch of tallies. Just just move on and don't forget reverse look above his pictures. Yeah Yeah I will say one of the thing too with social media as they might have an account or multiple accounts they might have a facebook twitter but beware of accounts that look brand new or don't a lot of follower. Yes because they could meet. Anyone can have a slick account. Anyone can have a twitter account. Instagram like about any name. You don't have to confirm your birth name when you create those accounts and Sal If it looks brand new if the pictures there and look cat fishy. Like don't just be convinced because they showing up on these social platforms. That is actually who is there to right and if it comes down to it. Look up their commencement program. Yeah I mean you think I looked to my own. Commencement Program let alone. All came up. Okay MIC AVIATION. School stuff's so that's why ended up there so there you have it folks. Caffeine is a game. That's not fun to play. But sometimes I've tasted they're gonNA put Excluding catfish director on her resume. Now I really should. He really should get hired in a minute. Fbi Yeah you're listening. Maybe I'm here. She's here but don't so. We did mention in the beginning of the podcast to like. You can obviously be cached but you technically have the ability to catfish someone else too right. Yep so though. I've never cashed anyone. I've definitely gotten questioned. If I'm real. Oh yeah like on tinder and sons. It's hard to tell like what the GUY is trying to like. Figure out from that if they actually think your catfish or if this is just like a pickup line to answer because of course most girls are it'd be like of course like real. Yeah and then. That's an immediate response. That like then he can. Do you feel like you're so gorgeous. Yeah possibly be real. Yeah Yeah so stupid. I mean the pictures I have tinder. They're nice pictures Good quality we talked about our profiles. I was a little bit like what do you. I'm not real. That was my response. Sam Actually I was not real like what what am I. Profile is giving the impression that I'm not real. Did he respond to know and left unread? Swap keep you guys updated but it was like me in Portugal in me just a kind of like a lifestyle shot. It wasn't anything crazy. Maybe because I only have two pictures on tinder in a lot of girls. I think guys have several. Maybe a little bit of mystery. They're maybe I don't think I'm a I don't think I have the ability to catfish some. No no I don't see where the where people get joy in it. I could come from like a lack of confidence. Honestly yeah or where. You don't WanNA show your True Self. That's true and actually the circle one of the girls just felt like she was going to be judged by the way she looked yet. Yes because she was like a plus size model. Like actually yeah. She was absolutely beautiful beautiful but she felt that because she was plus sized she couldn't get far As far in the show in the game as she could if she were pretending to be her drop dead gorgeous friends right right and the goal of that was obviously to win and so she wrote about truly is a game fishing but yeah it. Kinda makes me sad that there are people cash out there for that reason because again like you said. I don't really know many other reasons why you would. Unless you're kind of just like a dick yet right. Well if you just want to point yeah I don't I don't get the point behind it. His you're talking to someone. What if it does go far enough? Where like you all of a sudden have this online relationship with someone at weblogs of yeah and then show up knocking on your door. And you're like sorry you're literally hurting yourself and this other person. I don't like it doesn't make sense. Yeah so if you've ever thought about capturing if you're not confident in yourself own it think about it this way you can't love someone else if you don't love yourself a so before you even think about getting on a dating APP if you are looking for a serious committed relationship fine confidence in yourself. I love yourself date yourself and then you can date someone else don't be catfish. Don't be a cash gains incompetence. Everyone's insecure yell literally. I was GonNa say you have to Love Yourself? Like in your darkest moments do we can all love ourselves. We're like feeling her hair. The owner out fit. And we're like ready to go but have to love yourself in the vets and like you have your period and you feel like crap and you're laying on the couch and wash your hair in five days. Yeah mob yourself like me right now. Yeah I was actually describing abby. What saying shows looking on? It's funny like I was joking around. How like after quarantine I am at my emergency weights if you don't know what that's friendly. Listener Heather McMahon. She talks about her way. Means you're just like at the peak of what you would like to be but that doesn't mean I hate myself for it like a like I got zits all over my face right now for God knows what reason my hair is falling out. It looks like Boris Johnson. Not talking down on myself because of that like I'm still willing to just be yourself. Yeah and thankfully. Here's the other thing. This is the final parting. Words is not. You don't have to put those pictures on the dating profile and that's not cat fishing. You like that for like six months after defeating tackling. You'd like shoes this. Yeah you want but you can definitely show. There's a fine line to just showing. Yes obviously pictures where you feel beautiful and you look beautiful and that you want other people to see you don't have to show Forest Johnson side of. Yeah the Boris Johnson. View the greasy hair that whatever. Yeah but that's not catching just show who you are when you're happiest The yes. I can't wait to read her book children's book one fish two fish red fish catfish head on over to the next episode for April of Alas Episode episode three. We're talking a little bit of flirting a little bit of first date at just how when you're in the early stages of relationship spoiler alert. Abba can't flirt and with that we say goodbye food.

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92 - Abu Dhabi GP Prerace 2019

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52:13 min | 1 year ago

92 - Abu Dhabi GP Prerace 2019

"Address the everyone and welcome to shift won a podcast about speedier race cars. That by the way is Arabic for schools out. Why is I think that characterizes the feeling going into this race for me at least I'm drew scanlon joining me Daniel? Dwyer how are you Danny. That's amazing I'm great. I didn't oddest Cooper was so popular in the in the United Arab Emirates. They go the more you know. Also joining US Rob Zagging. How're you rub too bad fantastic? If you're new to the PODCAST. Welcome if you're new to Formula One itself Alf well this better time. There really isn't actually you got way into it right now. You've got a whole season to watch during the offseason offseason Formula One time to to come around. For Twenty twenty season you can also listen to our preseason primer episode which assumes no prior prior knowledge and gives the lowdown on how this works and who everybody is so if you WANNA listen to that you can go back and look episode fifty nine also. This show is supported entirely by our audience at Patriots Dot com slash shift F.. One where every month we released at least one bonus podcast and bonus video exclusively for our patrons covering racing documentaries and films video games primers further series and a lot of other weird stuff. So if you'd like to support the show and get access to all that fun stuff head over to Patriot dot com Tom. Slash Shift F.. One or click the link in the show knows what's going on this month. Danny yes just for folks who are patrons or maybe patrons as well they should know this while the season is ending the patron content will slick common every month. And we're probably going to do a little bit of a do some stuff on this feat is well. Maybe we'll talk about on this box. Maybe I'm the next week's but in terms of what's coming up this month for patrons we have a primer for Formula E. which actually just started the season to twenty one thousand nine hundred twenty twenty season which. Let's be honest it's mostly. The twenty twenty season started last weekend in Saudi Arabia. So we will be talking talking. Basically about the drivers sport works teams the specs. All that goodness and the podcast will be on for patrons pretty soon. We're recording right after this one and also they'll be and another F one game history excited to get into some of our. What are we calling it? Season break contents on patriots as well. I think you'd be a a lot of fun stuff going up over the break. Yes today however we will be discussing the upcoming Abu Dhabi Grand Prix but first first the news we talked maybe not last episode but the certainly the one before that about Formula Formula One's like Green Initiative and at the time it was really vague but Formula One dot com has an article up on Sort of more details about what that is actually going to mean in one of the things that form on I guess planning on doing is a Or one of the the. The prongs is bio fuels so apparently according to this article the current regulations say hey that five point seven five percent of the fuel must be biofuel but in twenty one according to Chief Technical Officer Pat Pat Simmons F. One is looking to increase that to ten percent with the goal to get to one hundred percent advanced sustainable fuels. This one doesn't say when one hundred percent advanced fuels is going to be. I assume that it would be twenty thirty when their stretch. Yes asked exactly. He also has some some interesting quotes in this article about why they don't want to go electric which I thought what was really interesting. Article says and again this is on Formula One dot com so straight from the horse's mouth as it were wild while it seems that vehicles are increasingly moving toward electric powertrains. More than ninety percent of the world's vehicles are still powered by internal combustion engines ICEES and that's where carbon emissions could be reduced in the short term. Furthermore it's difficult to power larger vehicles such as trucks and aircraft with electric powertrains. So it's still worth focusing on the icy it's fuels quote however what we cannot do is carry on digging those out of the Ground Continues Simmons. We're going to have to somehow synthesize them. And that's what we want forming the one to explore and hopefully to lead so completely synthetic combustion based fuel is the goal. Apparently have basically where would you. Where would you get these thanks? You doesn't matter like it's not the fuel like it's okay if we pulled oil from the ground and the emissions weren't the issue with the emissions. It's the burning running it like it's not that it's it's not that it's oil from ground that's bad and it has all these other chemicals in it. It is that the process of using an internal combustion engine region to burn a fuel creates a mission that like drives global warming and greenhouse gases and the rap on bio fuels. Is that it really like with a lot of things. A lot of it depends on where you're sourcing thing at from like for instance Like the history of synthetic fuels goes back basically to World War Two Germany right as the sort of cut off from oil and and they start developing synthetics to power increasingly power Their fleet of military vehicles and I think their first synthetic fuels came came from like potatoes. I WANNA say like there was a famine in late war Germany in part because so much of their food crops got diverted into like synthetics attics to a big part of the Irish Dasa as well because we were just doing too many open wheel races during that period of time. A great tragedy The Irish just felt that need for speed Well we got Eddie Irvine out of its on all worked out you know but the is so that was kind of a model that was encouraged as well for like what if we could create whatever you take Arable farmland and turn that into a source for fuel fuel as oil becomes more scarce in bracingly oil scarcity is not the issue that is not the concern. The concern is the emissions where you can get some savings is we are in an era of What I've heard some of the oil industry call like dirty oil? The idea of like fifty sixty years ago so you think a while and you got the beverly hillbillies gusher right and it was just like Oh shit like oil out of the ground. Danielle plain view right and now increasingly. You hear things like Tar Sands and such we're like really inefficient or hard to access sources of oil that do create a lot of energy Overhead and create a lot of environmental impact. Just to get the oil out. biofuel does solve for some of that but then it still has to hit an engine and still get burned and as I understand it and I was just reading a little bit about this as the topic. Ah came up. But it doesn't sound like biofuel really solves the emissions problem And me in a piece the guardian from two thousand seventeen Where you know? A survey of different biofuel sources. A lot of them were worse than oil. Oh Oh wow like and this is two thousand seventeen. Obviously they dea is that to me is going to continue improving. But I don't think that bio-fuel actually solves the problem we're facing of can be interesting too sick Formula One on that. Try to solve it. But I think you're right rob the point out that that doesn't seem like the precise problem that they are aiming to solve. No I mean think about like where have you seen the most aggressive bio-fuel live fuel advertising. Who's WHO's marketing idea? bio-fuel crisis PAT petrochemical companies right. Yeah it's people looking down the barrel of inevitable notable environmental regulation and trying to figure out how you can create the smokeless cigarette basically of the oil L. Industry So I don't know this is a pretty disappointing initiative. 'cause I like I understand that I understand there are some things that internal combustion engines are really good at the they're kind of ideal for I understand maybe you know. F One is not quite ready ready to go purely electric but this notion that biofuel is some sort of like out there we go solve that problem just doesn't and not to be online about it but my reaction to this is very much like this ain't it but like I think would be kidding ourselves if we didn't think that this entire initiative wasn't mostly about the optics rice the and and the word biofuel in and of itself is an entirely entirely like that's a marketing like word bio when you get right down to it so a lot of this stuff it doesn't hold up to that it doesn't hold up to scrutineer right like when you get right down to it in the same way as well if you talk about Tesla's and you're like yeah. It's wonderful electric cars getting powered it off the same grid that everything else is you know you try and hope maybe that these things are a means to an end or like a step towards a brighter future but yeah yeah you're totally right. It's it's it's kind of to me at least this whole part of us. I if if they were doing this you know this is what is going to be in ten years time and and they didn't have something that was bending. The knee somewhat to environmentalists that and they'd be called out on it. It's just side. I guess that the reality of this is what we need to fix. These problems are such massive institutional changes to the way in which we create energy the like even if one can't get ahead of that right what what are we going on like. What's the alternative? Solar cars get rid of the Abu Dhabi race. Then there's a missing the opportunity here though and this is what frustrates me. That feels like Formula One looked at the situation and they're like well. How can we partner with the Petro? Yesterday where where what I think could be an opportunity for Formula One and like this is sort of the stuff that George Russell was like pointing at right is that the opportunity is actually in reimagining. How complicated logistical chains that span? The Globe can be reimagined to have a low lower over lower overhead ahead of emissions to make it less energy and emissions intensive to do things like send bespoke parts and You know cars around the world and I don't know what that looks like I don't know if it means like Formula One gets super into advanced principles or something so that there's Pappas abilities ladies around the world and basically not shipping cars. You're you're shipping files I don't know like what that looks like but I think there's an opportunity there of okay. You can still have Formula One something like Formula One which is not just like the pinnacle of Motorsport also kind of the pinnacle of the globalized era. We've all been living in and the interconnected economies and manufacturing and resources. That have started to find this era. How do we keep? What is good about this Madera County? We've come to know while reducing thing instead stating environmental impact. I think Formula One could lead in some of that stuff because the thing that people are often frightened of giving up is like or has to give up in the wealthiest parts of the developed world are the really high end luxury. And there's has nothing more like luxurious or consumptive than than Formula One. But this notion that you can you could maybe reimagined the sport retain its identity and retain. What's cool and ridiculous about it but also make it less? Harmful is intriguing to me. What's far less intriguing? Is this idea of gesturing vaguely like an algae pool and being like someday our cars will run on that. I guess see. It's green. Yeah Yeah Yeah well said speaking of clearing the air very wealthy This on what he saves he saves. He saves the best till the end of the season. The this'll coming from Reuters this one. Just basically Ferrari a clearing the air in relation to that Haphazard Collisions always shall we say between Seattle and Charlotte Clare at team. Bus Before we talk. That's about it. Let's get the Dwyer opinion on it. We we missed you last week. Yeah I mean yeah what an awful race to I was literally getting on a plane like an hour after the race or I've after before you were quite in the pot guys thank you God. Can I just do the podcast while in the airport. Maybe it was. It was such a fun race and I mean look I think. Battle the battles sort of we've seen the tapes from previous races again. He he tried to give himself a little bit more space so he wasn't in such a disadvantageous position. Making that left at the end of destroys and obviously the Claire wasn't moving and so like I don't know it's like one of those times where somebody nobody hits. Maximum Max Acts Weird and then people tend to give Max a little bit more elbow room. You know what I mean or I've obviously Charlotte is not. It just didn't doing Josh is not interested in in in keeping where he was he had enough space. You could've stayed there. It's this it's similar to the Hamilton album thing. Where like Louis? There was a gap. There should Louis in an album closed at haphazardly but also was Louis going to make any kind of committed to laze. It was just what both of them were just kind of messy crashes. I think appleton was more at fault for the Albion one in a way obviously. He ended up getting penalties so just saw sought that way too but for the Ferrari one I think it was just it was unfortunate for both of them. I think if anyone was to blame it was vital bus also how to blame was he. He he didn't really crush into him. That bad and the resulting damage to both cars was probably more than you would normally see and that type of incident so yeah and and I guess maybe Ferrari just want to sweep it under the rug as quick as possible. I think for that reason nobody really comes. Editors when looking good the team don't Fateh look a bit Amateurish Church doing us and the Claire. It's as if he can you know say he was completely innocent. Either he held line. And sometimes when you hold your line people headed to you right. So that's kind of part of it and As for Ferrari themselves team have an auto said after the race at interlagos there would be a review with the drivers at the factory to go through what went on on how to prevent any recurrence this quote from the story since last Sunday Muttiah and the drivers have spoken every day as they would normally do anyway so there was no official summit nor videoconference. Afri- Ferrari spokeswoman said. They know that silly mistakes are still silly. Mistakes what happened. Today is shame for the team but not of said at the time So they're saying that the Arizona fully cleared and they're focusing on Abu Dhabi. I think a large part of this as well as the fact that ultimately it didn't really matter Ferrari are basically secure in the the second place in the constructors championships. Probably didn't help the squabble between the two drivers bus both of them lost all their points. So I think the best thing they can canoeist just look towards the the next race. It's it's it's a city crush kind of a thing. I guess it happened this late in the season. It's been a weird season for the two of those guys I think Next year is going to be interesting especially as we. I don't know the question of who the number one driver. There is even more gray than was at the start of this season. Well Uh speaking of number one drivers Reichen just a few few quick links here not a lot of news. Maybe you can tell going on into this final race of the season but Read it Formula Ron. One cigarette pulled up. This picture of communion playing Colin mcclay Colin McRae Rally two point. Oh on a playstation one during his military service and I just wanted to share with everybody because it's great that's anti-static yeah I guess as Finland like a lot of like Germany and other ones where you you do. A year is vast civilization. Yeah the mandatory military service in Finland. Yeah yeah he's he's almost smiling as well. It's just about other links around the Internet. Red Bull had a video go around twitter and basically everywhere this tweak of them performing a zero g pit stop and think you pointed out. Danny that like Red Bull is known for doing these kind of media stunts videos like this but it's almost too well produced a video that it doesn't even look real totally like you need a little bit of Darcy. I in your when you're doing something this fantastical and I mean they opened up with a sort of Dr Strangelove type like set up at the stars and then the actual have have there presumably. This is real but it's it's so staged and directed their shots here. That are definitely directed like they. This isn't like you know whatever his name Felix what's face jumping out of a balloon right. This one. This one shot this is this is something that was very very well less and very well put together has lots of very expensive cameras and it even has a police shot at the end. which is meant to I guess? Show the rest of the crew Bolton into this plane plane doing it and even that looks to wellish like red. We'll have a really big media house and they make awesome stuff made they make they make films. They have loads of websites websites. They make marketing stuff. Yeah it's it's it's so good looking that I'm still not one hundred percent convinced it's real. It's it's real the formula the one dot COM Put up a an article. That sort of gives a little look behind the scenes They say that the The Red Bull team team endured seven flights and around parabolas in a Aleutian. Il seventy-six MD K.. Cosmonaut cosmonaut training plane that's far too many times to listen to it to allow them rebel mechanic. Paul night says the first Parabola we did was really strange. And I guess if you're unfamiliar these planes they climb at forty five degrees and then fall again at forty. Five degrees to simulate simulate zero gravity it's how they filmed Paul Thirteen. How they train astronauts? He says there isn't a sensation of going down climbing at two G with twice. Your normal body weight feels it's like being planted into the ground and he struggled to move in that sensation reverses when you go over the top and into freefall. We were all a bit like Bambi on ice at first legs everywhere but we figured out how to hold ourselves and the best way to deal with. This station's it's an amazing experience and nothing like you'd ever imagine I I'm with you. I WANNA see the the rest of the footage I want to see them like cigarettes. It up it's also like an incredibly dangerous thing when you consider that there is a very heavy car car floating around with them like. Yeah if at any stage the the the the gravity is you know the plane has to do so. Obviously I don't know. Oh Yeah. I don't know how stuff works ride like. Is it mitigated by just the speed and angle. You're taking your the expert in this case Jerry. You're the only one Thomas who flies planes and but Yeah I. I just thought you can see when they're putting the car down at one stage like you gotta make sure like the plane is straight but like if you're in there are they the you've nothing at all times that they tried to have no limbs underneath the car Charleston case because it is as very thousand. It's a two thousand five SPEC red bull which is much narrower. Apparently so they were able to flip it around. It's cool video. Of course I'll Lincoln in the show notes but just wanted to point that out one more even weirder link that I hear stress F.. One apparently getting into they I mean they are with liberty media. They are pulling out all the stops with tie INS and F ONE CARD Games teams and mobile APPS. And now they're now they're into blockchain. Apparently you can enter. Turn this contest by picking which cars you think are the most popular or something and then win with their calling calling. Non fungible tokens. Oh my God based on the theory and blockchain this is is like what I talked to my daughter changes pass on his Reuter. Yeah Yeah it's called F one Delta time so I'll put a link to that in the show notes anymore three hours left to enter make of it what you they're auctioning the F one cars and you guess the order in which they will auction them off but you have to connect your block chain a catch to do so loss us. Yeah it's like a it's like a raffle. I guess and you get some of these like a they wouldn't be usable as a currency they're more like digital collectibles and because they run on the theory and blockchain that guarantees that they are verifiably Afyon Unique. Well all that is bad as that is or is confusing is that is. Nothing is confusing as the graphic of what I assume is meant mentioned to be Lewis Hamilton. If you scroll down dot website it looks like Lewis Hamilton. Robert have been molded together. Have you seen this picture. What's going on and look right but yeah I don't know what's going on? It's likely affects twin. It's like Richard D James has has like possessed Lewis Hamilton for a second. It's like a window liquor. It's a nightmare so weird. They got something to do do while. The season's over let's get out of blockchain land. Go to the far far away. Danny of Abu Dhabi far far alway. Yeah exactly. You'RE GONNA go far east weren't you until you realize. There was several other races further east of us than this one. Well it's a sphere so that's true. It's all relative. I guess yes I do. We're off to the United Arab Emirates. Everyone yeah this is the eleventh year where here as the US Marine Circuit Bill. Tom Yaas island at side of Abu. Dhabi if you're there you can Z.. Album W off in the distance Ferrari world a little bit closer. It's built on a marina. Hab is not really necessarily on this. Part of the coast is a little bit further away where this marina is and they sort of built it up I was there maybe six or seven years ago at this stage so it's It's actually pretty pretty easy to get to be around infrastructure wise and it's a it's certainly a unique part of the world. It part of it looks like Monaco. The because it has a marina. They're part of it. Looks like every other Herman ticket track you've seen and shed loads of runoff runoff for days. But the unique aspect of this a strike is that as a sunset race it starts in the evening and it ends underneath the gorgeous flood lesch track sometimes underneath the actual physical hotel that is built around the track as well with. It's a rather remarkable light. Show sort of exterior the trek itself. Five point five kilometers pretty much the average speed of a f one season. It's very flash. It's got twenty. One turns fifty five laps. UPS technical imparts smooth and fast and other parts and has to D- arrest rates as well it. It's it's pretty much like we've split every F.. One Track Akkad three sectors. In case you've never seen or heard of it on here on the podcast. This is one of those trucks that actually feels like each sector is its own thing at the first part of the track has lots of swooping fast turns the the first three or four turns are very well regarded by the drivers reiver's. They seem to enjoy them. Sort of a swooping downhill on turn three Into a tough breaking zone one of a couple of tough breaking zones here on the struck a turn five at the the middle sector comprises of two very long straights both of which have zones. They're split up by two little ninety degree. TURNS EARNS ON TURN eight nine lots of overtaking down both of those traits will probably see and then the third sector sector. Is this incredibly technical part of the truck that has half of the turns of the track inish between eleven and twenty one. This is a sector actor where drivers tend to try and get down here. We're cool tires during the end of their quality laps. Because you can lose a lot of time here but you can also gain Tinier if you hit. The the apex is correctly. So it's it's a funny to attract the first park sort of like winding and fast like maybe the sector of Circuit of the Americas America's for instance the second one comprise almost entirely these long straights. And then the third this sort of technical little hodgepodge through them arena and back onto the the relatively that'd be short actually star finished higher. The other I guess unique aspect of this truck is the underground pit lane exit which we finally somebody crashed. Standard was was formula two or somebody that wasn't formulated with some other support race off of a off of f one weekend actually some other type of race. Somebody finally crashed in it and they had to stop the events to clear it out. That's that's kind of NEAT. I guess we asked I from that. It's interesting track. There's usually some overtaking here a little bit of battles here and there but you're often is only as good as the season it has for the past couple of seasons. Everything's been wrapped up by the time we got here so we've not had we haven't had the crazy one. That happened six or seven years ago. Where are maybe longer? Maybe it was eight or nine years ago now. There was five possible winners of the F one championship. That you're going into ask for more recent years I guess Hamilton on Vattel are the the two who wanted the most Hamilton's WanNa four times three times in two thousand seventeen botas got poll on one at the end of his first season that we're Sadi's at twenty. The eighteen that was last year we had hooked Berg getting flicked. You might remember that. In the drive to survive. Episode was Romain. Grosjean clipped him on the in between those two zones and he really aggressively flew up London on his back and said I'm hanging here like a coward while the car burst into flames will Smith was there. We saw too many shots of him and how it's an ultimately run and we also got some doughnuts. Yeah wasn't that last year. where the three the world champions Fernando Alonzo especially in federal Ann Lewis? Hamilton did doughnuts on the start. Finish straight really really cool moment. I think also wasn't. Isn't it twenty. Sixteen here where it came down. Remember if it came down to the last race between Hamilton and Rosberg for the championship and Hamilton tried back Rosberg into somebody else. It was wrapped it required. Yeah I think it basically required Hamilton. Only only he could i. I'm not sure that'll overtaking him would have given him the championship What was it that simple? I feel like he needed more. Even more of a miracle like maybe force an accident or something I remember he needs to Rosberg till like knock at points as well as I remember that all on like being on the radio and being being like what the hell is low snowing like yeah. It was probably like one of Lewis's poorer moments as as a sportsman when Tyre wise we've got the C. Three C. Four NC five the softest of Pirelli's range pretty even split people taking their one or two hards Three or four mediums and Eight or nine Soft the only outliers. There's here are a ghastly Russell. Who are taking only two mediums to hards and nine soft? Yeah not a lot of a lot of variation it looks like teams though are splitting the strategies. I don't think any Peres stroll are the only team mates. I think taking the same sets either one or two hards. Three or four mediums. They're both taking too hard three medium innate soft so oh weather wise Yas. MARINA LOOKS TO BE Just ball me on qualifying day around eighty degrees Fahrenheit or twenty seven twenty six if you're Celsius precipitation zero percent on qualifying day although humidity will be around sixty percent on race day very similar conditions. No chance of rain A sixty percent humidity and Yeah similar sumo temps as well wind though I think might be a factor on qualifying day and Ray Estate. It'll be about ten miles an hour or sixteen kilometers an hour out of the. What is that? The northwest don't know how that translates just to the track. But every one out there trying to drive around in driver standings Lewis. Hamilton are champion has a secured first place with three hundred ninety seven points voucher botas in second with three hundred fourteen maxwell staff and is in third with two hundred and sixty points behind him. Charlotte Clare to forty nine nine his teammates Sebastian pedals and fifth with three. I'm sorry two hundred and thirty tie between PR. Gasoline and Carlos Sainz Podium pleasers Acer's from last race with ninety five points. That'll come down to the last race of the season. Alex albums got eighty four. Danny Rick has fifty four and Sergio Perez in tenth place with forty six behind him and got norris forty five and Reichen with forty three. That's a close battle Nico Bergh's got thirty. Seven Danny Caveat. With thirty five Lancero in Fifteenth Place with twenty one points Kevin Magnusson Got Twenty Antonio G. of Nazi with fourteen points Roman grow John's got eight body K with one and George Russell Sel still bringing up the show. Yeah I guess I should probably take back what I said earlier about Ferrari not really losing out in the end when it comes to last week because Max for stop and Boy Pretty and third position. Yikes that's going to be. That might be the one to watch now between I mean battles basically third and just to see but definitely a battle between the Clare ever stop and for third maybe clarin battle for fifth. Yeah that'd be fun. I'm also obviously watching our McLaren fight for six position as I'll be fun. Yeah in constructors Mercedes on top of seven hundred and one points for is in second with four hundred. Seventy nine rebels got three hundred ninety one McLaren I think has clinched fourth place with one hundred and forty renos got ninety one in Fifth Place Screws Korea Toro Rosso. I think we're we're getting down to the last time we're going to say that they're in six with eighty three points. Racing points got sixty seven. Evan Alfa Romeo's got fifty seven Gene Haas team twenty eight points and Williams with their. You know realistically you're probably not going to see any changes in this race unless we have an. Although last week we did have some very new faces the vote him but the chances czar. That's that's GonNa be how it ends. I think I would. I would read out the shift. One fantasy league standings but I'm getting error code four zero three forbidden. I don't know why. Oh Yeah me too. Yeah because they're all sides should he's as the tour browser are actually take some emails. Danny Yeah let's do it shifted from podcastone dot com or of course not cool slash emails If you WANNA talk about going to send us emails we I always love going back into the emails to see what Y'all have been talking about last week and boy. Oh boy did it. Look like some chat hop in the bed. Racing wheels are wasted seats. And we'll get to that in a second but true. Do you want to read this this I e mail from Andy sure and says I recall a couple of weeks ago. You were all talking about how positions in the constructors standings determine different payouts. If I recall correctly you mentioned that there wasn't much info out there about how much money is wrapped up in each place to this end however I noticed an interesting moment in the official f one youtube channels post race paddock. Pass video during wilbanks. We'll BUXTON's interview of peer ghastly around the four fifty eight mark will start discussing the Toro. Rosso could pull ahead of Renault for Fifth Place in the constructors. Standings beer brings up that his victory secured some serious money for Scooter Ryutaro so and says quote. There was ten million between seventh and six in the championship. This doesn't illuminate. Hate the entire structure of the constructor's championship. But I still thought it was interesting to get some insight on the hard numbers involved. Yeah this is another one of those things that is not surfaced very well. I did some googling and found an article on autosport from twenty seventeen and race fans from twenty twenty eighteen. which there's an added wrinkle to? This is in that it. It's all going to change in twenty twenty one. But how how it currently works is if you imagine an excel spreadsheet out there are there are two there are two primary very columns that we'll be talking about column. One is a a pot divided equally among all teams so in twenty seventeen each team got thirty six million dollars in column one column two is according to sport calculated on a sliding scale from first to tenth place with first receiving nineteen percent. Six nine percent intent four percent so that that matters on how you place you get more for coming in versed in less per coming attempt at that sense more equitable than I would have thought like for. I gets twice as much basically as six and four times games as much as last. That's I mean maybe I'm just used to. The races are race points being handed such less equitable logarithmic arithmetic. Yes exactly yeah. Yeah and that does seem simple and fair to me and that is what how it's going to be from twenty twenty one on. I believe the difference the things that are being dropped. Are these weird separate deals that other constructors Chris have made including Ferrari Mercedes red bull and McLaren red bull receive an extra payment for being the first team to sign the current bilateral agreement which runs to twenty twenty in this totals. Thirty five million dollars. Williams collects heritage payment and Ferrari receives a gigantic long standing team payment. which I think because like sixty sixty eight million or something yikes yeah and so there's all these little bonuses that because just because you're Ferrari you get this and I think all of those are being axed and so we're only going to have column one into and I think it bears pointing out that the the total prize pot is at least it wasn't twenty seventeen Two thirds of the projected underlying revenue of Formula One one so in twenty seventeen the turnover formula one was one point eight three billion dollars with underlying revenues as estimated at one point three eight sixty eight percent of that is nine hundred and forty million and that was the total prize pot. So it's about a billion dollars that the teams are getting distributed to them based on all that we're excel calculation so hopefully that Interest Answers your question. Andy a lot of money. So I'd of money All right let's get to the other email this malange of a couple of different emails. We Gosh a couple. Like a dozen e mails we got people giving their feedback on the various types of wheels that they have Jason Chicago talks about a rather expensive rigged that he bought off of Bhutto. I believe it is. Ob U. T. T. O.. which is a separate check it out? Johnny Email Dan to say that he was a big fan of. It's fantastic wheel after using a logitech wound for a number of years and But this one I want to read it out. TJ set this donny. L. E. Meldons. Something very similar abashed a foldable rig which election ever heard of before. TJ Says Hi guys on the last podcast. Someone auto racing seats last year. I was shopping for sees but didn't want to commit the space or money for something huge onto the place challenge. The idea is similar to a folding lawn lawnchair. The seat is adjustable so mine is laid back similar to cease the whole seat folds up with the wheels pedals attached and stores away. It's not extremely stiff like most seats but coming from the xbox three sixty wheel resting on my lap a few years ago. It's a huge of great. I found wanted to be a great option for someone that just wants to test out the racing seat world and there's a link there to website. which kind of shows it off at play sees? He's store dot com and Lincoln the show notes. Yeah it's about the one that he mentioned. It does look like a bit of a folding chairs for two hundred fifty dollars. I'm seeing here of a cell change wherever you're buying it. Can I give a feedback on the stuff that I've used sure egg so in the past the wheel rely used a lot was a logic G.. Twenty nine it's a pretty common sort of good entry level wheel. I would say for about two hundred bucks. It'll work work on either. They always work on PC. But it's whether or not it'll work on PC and PS four dot. One does the same. Was it rob recommended. It's solid I. I used for a number of years the way I used to use. It actually was I bought a I want to say it's Kia I built has like a like a tiny little platform that you'd use to basically like. It's like a sofa table where it has like has like a little platform almost like you have a TV dinner tray but it's it talks Underneath Your Sofa like almost like a C- turned on its side. Where you're C- where where half of the underside will be engineer? So and then the up top side will be above it and I think this thing costs like thirty dollars or something to make an ice to strap my wheel to that. I used to put a couple of bucks on that and screw my Logitech g twenty nine into that and I wasn't ideal but it was like an incredibly cheap way of being able able to drive one of those seats so I'll see if I can find that maybe we can sick Lincoln the show. It's it's a very it's somewhere between having a seat and the just having it on your lap suggestion that talked about but recently obviously I did the twenty four hour racing for extra life and and upgraded or was given an upgrade by thrust master to t- GT which definitely feels a lot more like like like a real wheel. It's ways of the force feedback is better you're gonNA pay for it. Obviously T.. GTE costs about five hundred dollars on. Its own they also sent over a the open wheel racing out on which I'd never used before which was fantastic which is the paddle shifter and stuff like that. The the the one that they sent over works with I would say I think that whole wheel. Setup is actually designed with GRANDPA sports in mind. So there's a bunch of stuff that the wheel does that only works in. Gt Sport. But of course I was playing the game and it did the job and then the thing I really WanNa recommend as well as the racing sees obviously I was going. I'm from a piece of Ikea furniture together to this but a next racing sent over there. F GT cease which can be set up in either sort of rally normal mode or in F. One where you're kind of certain you know it a little bit of a thirty degree angle. Maybe which are your legs hired in your ours and did for sixteen hours. That was the first time I used us both the wheel and the seat and oh the now has some pretty interesting sweat marks on it from being on it for almost holiday it did the job. It was Yeah it's nice to move around and it was comfortable to be an for what I consider too long to be using wheel unseat. I think it's funny isn't it. There's like so many different from scales to this. People were sending emails of those like crazy gyro versions where you're sitting in a seat that's floating in the air and slow go up and down the most pretty who experience I've ever had was Eddie three two years ago for up to right now Seven six seven. Yeah Microsoft had a SIM setup at their at their event for the new Forza data and it was one of those like pneumatic powered ace. Ace Ace Arnaud. No isn't that seven income in two thousand seventeen. That's right. Yeah yeah okay so it was for seven and it was such Russian incredible experience. I would say it was actually scary like you know how like when you actually when you sit in the high performance car the thing that surprises you is the violence of the acceleration allegation like you just rise sitting in a daily driver you just never experience what like a sub four seconds zero to sixty feels like right you just don't encounter it and this setup definitely gave you that and like I haven't forgotten it because it did make me understand how someone could end up. Just pouring thousands of dollars into their SIM setup for like the floating suspension with the multi axis like pivots and twists and rotations. Because like by the end of that I was exhausted like there was so much force feedback and the seat was throwing me back and forth so hard that like just doing a few laps in four to seven. I was tired in way of never been tired from like Sim racing because it felt like I've been wrestling a car for the last. You know twenty minutes. That's awesome. Wow Yeah I've I've never done that. I think that's something that people kind of overlook when they imagine what it's like to drive a racing car is the physicality associated with it like Fighting the car and and and I mean in you're even dealing with G. Forces Rob know to a degree. They're trying to simulate them right. I think they're trying to exaggerate. Agitate like sometimes it felt like the way it was throwing me was more than like the camera of the suspension. It was trying to give you a sense of like being jammed jammed when you accelerate its backward. Yoke tip you back hard so it was trying. It was trying to do some of that. Yeah you can't get it all the way there but I think it did sort of evoke. How much definitely changing my breaking? Because I just didn't want to get slammed forward quite so hard and so I- eased quarter a couple of times. Because I was like no I don't WanNa do it. It was like like the Pistons on these things are massive by the way. They looked like they belonged on like a truck suspension Just just a massive air suspension. I would say The Guy who was like almost like a football with for each driver it was pretty wild cool. Well that's it for emails. You can also hit us on twitter at Shift F.. One podcast. I am at drew scanlon. That's at robs acne and Danny O'Dwyer. That's US around the Internet. Let's take it around the world any it's time to raise vine the Hey yeah well On. My calendar racing is happening at one specific location on the world at the ASS Marina circuit. We've got formula two and Formula One way visit Gander Mountain silent. I the trucks are not roaring this weekend no longer to smoke billow from the top of Gander Mountain but longer the rumble a. v.. Eight truck engines. I think they're changing the name again. Goodness back again around Ryutaro Ktar so forever Gander Mountain forever. Yeah I'm with you a formula. One kicks off this Friday November. Twenty ninth at four A. M. Eastern time on ESPN two followed by practice to which incidentally is the only practice session that goes from day to night like the race. Does that will be Friday November. Twenty ninth at eight. Am Eastern time on ESPN. You just for you practice three Saturday November thirtieth at five I am on ESPN to follow by qualifying. Same Channel at eight am eastern time. Then we've got the race everyone Sunday December I at eight Oh five. AM ON ESPN two. The DEUCE DEUCE The final race of the year. Yeah sweet yeah well. We got formula e everyone. Oh my God. After after dialing in preparing for this This primer. I'm way more into it now. Have you watched the race. Acs I have either of the races. Yes yes we are starting and ending this year with double headers. which I think makes sense double? Heather's doubleheaders authors. Let's just run motorsport. Basically as high school drama so might as well just like throw on. Heather's yeah we're going to do our primary for that in a hot second we are. Yeah talk about all this stuff that has changed this year Talk about it from sort of a more generalist perspective and Yeah talk about all the all the ex F one drivers you will get to really the fall in love with on the electric electric pavements of the world. I think it's a third of the grid has raced in f one that sounds about right you saying electric pavements made me imagine like what a formula -I both catenary wires above impose like like bumper cars. Yeah I mean it's pretty much bumper cars we we will get to that we will get to that if you'd like the sand on the bumping if you'd like to listen to that and Support the show you can do so. Patriots dot com slash shift F.. One anything else fellows last race it here in joyous. It's a fun one. I always love it. I always get sentimental about the sunsetting on the F one season and yeah. I don't know this year was a good one. It feels like physical or hopefully stepping into more exciting racing but Yeah I think more than editing out this this season show just how how deep the talent pool is one at the moment Certainly more so than it has been you know when the US Marine started. Eleven years ago I think Every team was has got some good players and if somebody's rich Sun this weekend I'm going to be setting my feet up and for me. This is the first first race of the two thousand twenty season like I. I don't think I don't think any squashed a Ferrari like that's what that's what I'm here to watch for is just like what what games are being played this out next year. Well we shall see We'll see you next week

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35:01 min | 2 years ago

Episode 113 Platform Specialist Jason Resnick

"Came has small niche design firms running the gamut of technology types of companies types of businesses and basically integrations a lot of integrations and so that's the bread and butter the business now when my son was born who's two and a half now put bodies into startups to build their platforms and what that allowed me to do was taste a plethora and I've been building my own business ever since helping establish ECOMMERCE businesses get more customers creep repeat customers and in my whole love of the Internet rather and so professionally I worked for fortune fifty companies as well I realized my dream is my dream was to be able to be home see first steps here first words and essentially at that point Baba's doing service work there so basically the better part of fifteen years is doing client services building applications will then custom features but I knew what I wanted and in twenty ten did it again and left the design world the design agency world and about eighteen months into that net was two thousand two ish Eighteen months into that and I had to go get another job because I didn't know Vanu coming into my businesses all is it's what I've focused in on for nine plus years at this point in time even before that when I was working fulltime the design worker the development work yes so for me the services part of my business is the bread and butter that's what most of the maybe some your backstory how you got started absolutely so I'm a web developer by heart entry I grew up in the SCHOL development clean code career advancement and more I'm John Calloway I'm Clayton Haunt Nash. This week we have Jason Resnick the things my skill set was great being a developer is just the client management stuff sales and marketing contracts and all that stuff I just I didn't have to worry about that a bill rating fans of their own brand so then these days do you end up finding that most of your time is spent sort of evenly on building that business in doing thanks for having me I'm super excited to be so before we get started on sort of the meat of things would would you just kind of introduce yourself a little bit and what I found was a sweet spot for me and I worked for a consulting firm that basically I've cut my economics class to build websites so not that I'm suggesting people do those sort of things but that's how I came to be of technology all in a very short time period when that whole thing collapsed in ourself decided to strike out on my own because that's what I always wanted to do anyway ahead that like I could potentially help other people do the same thing I wanted more and more people to be able to realize that moment and that wasn't expected is not Jason is a family guy worked from home dad host of the live in the feast podcast and helps developers and designers specialized their business by building recurring revenue to live their life. Welcome Jess grew up in my career in mid to late nineties so right at the dawn of the Internet age if you will and ups and things of that nature because what I focused in on for my services were obviously ECOMMERCE businesses but it was specifically in time was like hey I did it right like this is what I set out to do and so it was then there was like this like mostly switched I would often hammers tied to the subscriptions plugin that's what I became known for in that small space there and so people will like how you charging doing backups and Securities Hanson such actually helping their business strategizing implementing things and so it was that was the advent of me the news good over some of those hurdles that I had encountered than for me that's the wing of the day so I have very regimented time management I thought I would just you know I'm fine in the code like I'm just I'm cool with that and so as an introvert or introverted tendencies if you will I didn't WanNa do mentoring coaching or build a community or any of that sort of stuff but I was asked a lot at conferences meter what you charging per month I mean you charging to three thousand dollars a month were WBZ curve in some of these other things are sub one hundred dollars and I said well not them not just excessively from a typical nine to five job into working for yourself working on your own working out of the house when my son was born I was already working redoing and that's where I'm going to always stay and I feel that that helps me become a better coach teacher and community member to those being fulltime work and I was basically waking up at six o'clock to go into the full-time job come home at four thirty five o'clock have dinner start work at six being able to say hey maybe there's a way in which I can help people more like if I can do it anybody can do it that's kind of how I look at it and if I can help other developers bat are looking to learn how to run a proper business what was that transition like around the time that your son was born how did you make that transition to be able to manage both sides because it's very different but you know the the services side I'm never going to get away from it's what I enjoy the fuel but honestly the start of that year in January I quit in August I basically said by my birthday which was I basically flip the script by drop the full-time thing I'll just make everything during the daytime And so that that was my experience but at that came in August and month earlier than I expected or targeted for and it was just like hey this is the right time to do this I had client in September I want to leave I want to start my own thing because at that point in time I was basically burning the candle at both ends I had a client roster I was doing it's into my own business at that point I wish I could say there was like some like hey I just up and quit or sort of like magical moment since and I learned a lot from my first time to try to do it myself just by having a lot of conversations with people that are normally but you can be as close to it as possible building up that client roster and having that work that can be you for my own business that was two and a half years ago twenty ten that's when I'm in August two thousand ten is when I left the fulltime moral sustain you when you decide to to make that leap into the self employment or working for yourself what would you say that that's advisable that that's a really good idea I am or never sorta thing for me and the fact that I saw like I learned from my previous mistakes doing this and I saw that this is this makes sense there is a huge fear of like this is okay for like you know for the foreseeable future couple months but what is is my only responsibility at the time to like I didn't have a family at that point in time I didn't have a wife I didn't have a mortgage or any of those things so it was like kind of like this it's and eight off and let's go and unlike appreciate and admire you for doing that it's just not my nature to do that being that I live in New York and had to pay rent but wouldn't have like sales and marketing those kind of people but learning I don't know I was like this is the time you never be one hundred percent ready for that shift look like after that like having a regular paycheck every other week deposited in the bank account not having to worry about it you know is nice but for me we're gonNA wait until three kg a couple hours and do it all over again I knew for me I just my comfort level I wanted to make sure that at least to have that client roster because I would expect that there's a certain amount of fear involved in in making the leap from the steady paycheck into of human history that allows us to be the do these things at this point in time so why not take advantage of it what were some of the biggest lessons that you learned there were a lot of lessons was trying to build up a sales pipeline when we're in code myself included heads what I was doing was working to be able to get me new clients get me past clients to become clients again those sorts of things and so it was like okay being your own boss absolutely I mean for me my experience it's I needed to do it that way there are other people that are like I'm pulling the months later like this lag behind that that whole leaves right so what I learned was I tried everything like just is permission about it you know and that's kind of how my attitude was was really like hey I can there's this time that were in in the the period after the first first time that you had to stop stop doing this and he said okay these are the big takeaways that I'm going to implement the next time washing how people do sales and build up you know sales cues pipelines in all these other things but what I found was while that was good for that what I wound up doing was essentially building out these scripts that would just ping the ether if you will twitter craigslist a whole bunch of other things go knocking on doors that's not me so how can I be a little bit more smart about my marketing And one of the things that I built as and for certain key words that I knew that were ads or questions or some sort of community outreach eh it was more than that I knew I wanted that time freedom and flexibility I wanted to be able to just take off on a random Tuesday afternoon because it was nice out and I was an adult and I didn't want to have damn it wasn't really my nature so how did I how could I potentially do this like I'm not GonNa have a call list just call people on the phone that's not me lot of times they allowed me to jump I into the conversation I noticed when I was looking at craigslist for a lot of this stuff there were big brands now I can help that allows me to be heads down focused on the things that I have to do manually but allows me to keep that pipeline just looking at at some of your history as a wordpress developer and custom php and Ruby on rails and Java and the whole gamut was there any to these things because basically gave me a log of his tweet here's a craigslist ad these things and also allowed me to jump into the middle of conversation on craigslist and they were post these jobs but then it would like come down like a day or two later and I would notice that only because by the time I got developers you know one of my things is a five to do something twice the same way I'm going to try to figure out how to scripted or automated or something right so that somebody was doing that I could help answer and so I would get pinged on my phone at that time and I would just sit at night on the couch and MHM were really big fans of theirs and the work that they're doing especially Jonathan's dishing hourly podcast and ideas behind all of that in line open if you will and we were trading emails before the show and looks like your your friends of of some of our guests Laura Elizabeth and Jonathan Stark the jobs for Cannon Gander Mountain PG Sony and so forth and so that's sales I call it my sales bought is really just going out there picking basically it just feeds me mentions of certain brands like convert dripping things of that nature and we'll commerce in all these other brands that I six customer p work for another three months and then go back to ruby on rails what I found was about two years much like the first go around myself I just spent hours a night because I was sleeping at that point in time it was just so stressed out with everything hours night literally in my apartment sitting on is not knowing that either one of us at the time but a month after I propose to her I said terror was gonNA leave go back and get a full time job because down maybe for a few weeks at a time you're not promoting yourself you're not out there making connections and stuff but that time doesn't hit you until point in time when you were being more of a generalist and then look to to niche down in become a specialist is was that the key to to your success things and so I always had the constant relearn everything it was actually my now wife then fiancee who kind of gave me the kick in the butt to specialize my business a lot of projects and things of that nature where I was just focused and at that point in time I wasn't even really in the wordpress space at all essentially chasing my tail had this gap between tax tax six nine months their versions of his new methods it was new ways in which to do that about the marries just told me not to get a job like okay so I had to figure out what it was I basically analyze my business soup to nuts I analyze I was like hitting this wall and I was like maybe this just isn't for me I'm like this is not I don't understand getting burned out and what I found was that I was an industry is that I enjoyed working with and then the opposite of that and that was my red flags list essentially and those were the people that I had to say absolutely in two thousand ten when I left the fulltime world I was very much a generalist I would work on rails projects for three months Java projects what I found that what I was doing there was specialized in my business because distilled from all of that was this list of characteristics of people and projects they could go into it on a Tuesday and then come in the following two Wednesdays after that they would still be able to understand things and just paying twitter and now it alerts me and my chat and have a slack channel sales team and it's just that screwed I just don't think that this works and she threw me for a loop because she's the one that's Iraq she wants to predictability and stability and all that stuff not even if they were willing to pay me that was the tipping point around two thousand twelve that really grew the business because I was saying not hello and welcome to the six bigger developer podcast the podcast where we talk about new and exciting technologies flex applications or responses to their Ed and then they just pull it out it'd be like okay we got fifty or one hundred or one hundred fifty these things that's enough for now we'll figure out somebody what what my clients wanted was a way to manage their stores in their websites where they burnt in it every single day dog it was a not found what's going on like I see it here so it got me a little interested in seeing what happened will I found out was that they would just get an in on the couch with a notebook just taking a look at my client roster the projects that I was working on what I liked what I didn't like the people that I was working with all of these things and so with that why lab me to do was to see it come up I jump in their bly B. on the top of the stack if you will and I suppose to do this stuff so how can I expect my clients to do this right and so you know wordpress was a was a simple platform where I could deliver this thing and the rolling my own cms is right in Ruby whatever platform is writing in at the time and sometimes I struggled going back issues like but that's not what you want and I know that so I know that you know that in we'll figure it out and I was like wait who won him he's not look so different with new updates in Latin all this other stuff so I was I was just looking at it from the client's perspective of what I can deliver was it as cool as we're now but you know it is what it is right and so for me it was matter of delivering the solution clients were asking for and that one even better place whether there is with me or referral or some information that they didn't have beforehand and that allows me to then say no it's just a matter of identifying if we can work together one of the things that it was helpful for me in the beginning boys putting literally on sales calls ends than me to go with right and so that's how I come to is anybody that comes into my desk if you will I just say I want them to becoming a specialist or specializing especially businesses Specific leaving you talked about how you had to come up with these lists of people a lot of it is what problems right because if you can if you

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Ep. 59: Austin Hill, Scott Zipadelli, Max McLaughlin (RWP)

The Down and Dirty Show

00:00 sec | 2 years ago

Ep. 59: Austin Hill, Scott Zipadelli, Max McLaughlin (RWP)

"Hello again. And welcome to the racing riders podcast. I'm your host Kelly Crandall. This is a jammed packed episode. Fifty nine a visit to who Tori racing last month resulted in three interviews you're going to hear. So the first two are gonna be from defending series champion of truck series. Scott's Padilla to crew chief and new driver Austin hill who you've made a hurt is coming in to replace the departing Moffett who won the championship last year. So Scott and Boston are I on the podcast. Scott is going to do a tremendous job of breaking down all the work that has gone into Tori, racing since he arrived there in two thousand seventeen also talking and kind of clearing the air on what happened with Brett Moffitt s- departure of money business, not they did not fire Brett Moffitt. So we're gonna get into all that. And he's going to break down just the truck series of the whole why he thinks the competition some of the best out there. And then we're going to learn more about Austin hill as he gets ready to get into this sixteen truck to help them defend their title, and what he thinks he? Can do for this team. It's a it's a fascinating conversation. Both guys were tremendous. I really really enjoyed it. Some housekeeping notes you're going to hear Austin reference. Mike ricci. He is the general manager over there at Torrey racing. So you will know who that is who he's referencing. You're going to hear Scott's a Benelli talk about the ten employees that they have that is a real number ten employees over on that sixteen team. So again, this conversation happened in January, and what's funny is we recorded this and about no less than thirty minutes later is when the news came out that Johnny solder was no longer returning to GM racing. And I bring that up because you're going to hear reference on the podcast where Scott Spinelli brings up that Brett Moffitt is gonna land himself in a good ride for next year. And of course, that did not come out until after we recorded it. So all the pieces are to come into play as we talked. The first was Johnny Sauter leaving GM ass. And then the next day Brett Moffitt getting into the truck, Scott, also references. How Johnny going to be a contender this year as of this recording? And as I'm doing this intro, which is third. This is going to drop February fourth. We don't know. We have not heard where Johnny solder is going to be racing. I'm starting to hear whispers though, that he will be back. He will have a ride for this year. And I would assume that he's going to once again be a championship contenders. So that's some housekeeping notes on that the third interview is with max mcglaughlin, and he's going to run Canaan this year for Tory saying they plan to do a full schedule some details still to be determined. But they're set to go new Smyrna later this month, and we talked to him for about ten minutes about his expectations learning a little bit about him because he has an extensive dirt background, and he's making the transition to pavement. So three interviews in this jam packed episode. I hope you enjoy if you do like what you're listening to please leave us a rating and review spread the word. Our ranking and the feedback has been phenomenal. Again, you can find me on Twitter. At Kelly Crandall. And this is your last week without NASCAR racing as we get ready to go back racing. The season is about to start next week a week from today. We will have run the class. We will know who's on the pole for the Daytona five hundred. So with that in mind, make sure you are also book marking and plugged into racer dot com. That's where you're gonna find all of your needs for NASCAR this season. And again, I hope you support myself support racer support the podcast. So let's get into this episode. Again, we've got a lot to cover with Scott Sipa deli Austin hill and maximum Laughlin. Enjoy the racing writers podcasts. All right, looking pretty good. So back on the podcast, and it's a two for one so Austin hill and Scott sipping deli the defending Petroria racing truck series champion. So Austin is now the new driver Scott's gonna be working with somebody new here. So Scott, let me let me first start with you because we're here at the shop and one of my questions for you was what has this off season? Ben like when it comes to you being the leader of this team and kind of going in the off season unknown with making the driver change, but coming off the championship. What's what's been the mood like through the holidays now getting back to work and just kind of I guess keeping everybody focused on the task at hand. While the business side of filling the seat was was taking place. It's so far it's been pretty seamless. We we've enjoyed our off season so far with the banquet and all the accolades come along with our two thousand eighteen success, but we're in much better shape than we were last year at this time with our trucks, and our preparation. And we have had no team members not turnover with our employees. So that's huge huge gap. In fact, we're adding one new employees for the road. So believe will be stronger personnel wise than we were last year. We're heading into the wind tunnel to work on some down for stuff. Try to try to improve our our package. We ended with last year and stay on top of the rule changes. But everybody's excited. Have we really good atmosphere here, it's it's a calm. No drama, stay focused, and we kind of to now all the noise that that happens outside the industry outside our four walls. We don't pay any attention to it. So we're excited Austin's been popping in and out quite often and new face in. It's just our new, sir. New job our new challenge. You know? It's I think everybody's we're we're looking forward to get to the racetrack and knocking to dust off everything. We'll see you mentioned the no team turnover. That was actually a question that I had so everybody from what you guys did last year. Everybody's back. Nothing has changed. Nothing has changed you. Everybody's back. The only change to the road crew would be one of our mechanics slash fabricators. Gonna stay back at the shop, which is going to help us be stronger here. And we've added a at at one new guy to replace him on the road. So that's gonna make a stronger just so I can get out of the fab shop a little bit more and spend more time with Austin and work on simulator, and that kind of thing so you're not new to working with younger drivers. Brett Ryan true ex. I think you also have worked with Ben Kennedy. So kind of what's been your first impressions of of this young guy. I call them young. But this young guy coming in now, and and getting to know him and and looking forward to working with him this year enthused by his. His wont. You know, he wants to do. Well, and he already say a lot of younger. Are you? He's twenty four. He doesn't act twenty four. Now. He's twenty four married and has two children. He's he's he's got his stuff together. He's focused. You know, this is what he wants to do. There's no travel. It's at believe it's going to be as seamless as it can be, you know, we're we're looking forward to get in get into the track and start get our job done. So Austin for you trying to make this deal happen. I'm curious did did you have to come over here. And try and pitch yourself. Did you walk in and be like, okay. Here's what I can do. How did this whole thing come together from your perspective we'd been in contact a little bit? You know when it got to the end of the year. I didn't really know, you know, what twenty nineteen held for me and my family, and we were kind of keeping the doors open. We had been in talks with Young's motorsports. Going back with them for a second year for twenty nineteen. You know, we just went and thought to some xfinity teens went and talked to a few guys in actually bumped into greet you walk in. Down pit road one day. Just kind of started talking to him seeing what twenty nineteen held for those guys. And it just kind of all came together. I've known greasy ever since I've started back in Cayenne, I think it was twenty twelve twenty thirteen I met him. So me and him have a very good relationship. You know, we we ran against them when we were doing our own deal, and he was running h Scott Turner and Turner over there. So you know, I like I said, I've always known him always thought highly of him and respected him, and we got to talk in there at the end of the season and just kind of got the whole deal rolling. And kinda got it put together. And I think if it wasn't for him getting my foot in the door. And then me having you know, some help on sponsorships out of it going into twenty nineteen. I don't think all of this would have been possible. So explain a little bit your background innocence. You've done Canaan you've run trucks before. But it explain I guess your path even before that for people who don't know much about your background. The assorted the race on six years old sorta racing quarter midgets at the time. My dad just thought it was just gonna be something fun for father son, bonding time, just go to the racetrack apps and fun, and it very quickly turned into a passion that we both had, you know, something that we both love to do both enjoy. And so we just started working our way through the ranks. We got into the Mandalay series in legend car series rice Dover at Atlanta, Mer speedway Charlotte started traveling a lot, you know, went went to Las Vegas nationals. Did did all that. Then we started. We started getting in the asphalt late model Saad of it ran the ASA series until they shut down and going into the following year. After that, we were the plan was to run full season super late models, and then run some dirt late models as well on the side with Shane Clinton because we're very good buddies with Shane Clinton, the whole Clinton's for that matter. So that was the plan then they Connor. He kinda got bad. So actually didn't race anything for two years Iran, a legend car at amount expense like here and there maybe ten races in two years, Iran. And then once the economy kinda got blown back better. We had a few partners kind of helping us out. We started. We just went straight into Canaan series in them from layer. We we decided we were going to run our own team. We saw that it was way cheaper to do that. So we went that route had two or three guys in the shop, including myself working on the Canaan callers day and night going to the race track for the two full seasons that we ran, and you know, we had a of success in Canaan series. We probably should have won a lot more than we did. We just had some mis mis unfortunate happen throughout the season. But all in all for a family owned team coming in fifth the first season third points the second season. It was it was very good for us. So then the following. A year after that we decided we wanted to go truck rice in. So we said we'll heck might as well do it under off no rice, and again and just do it family. All well, we learn very quick that going from cane in team to a truck team was a big job. It wasn't as small of a jump is a late model cane in. It was a a very big jump very big turnaround for us and Big Eye opener. And you know, we we ran for two years with Austin race and just did ten races. The first ten races the second year Kanda. Luckily, got in with Tyler young got to know him very well because he was right down the street from us the time, and we kinda he kinda helped us out last year going being able to run a full season. So I really can't thank him enough. Really without his dad and him believe in a me and helping me out for twenty eighteen this deal probably would never came about. Because I probably would only ran ten races last year. My name wouldn't have been out there as much so getting that full experience that we got in two thousand eighteen definitely help. Kinda seal the deal going over to twenty nineteen with HR. I think if I would only ran ten races. Who knows what would have happened for twenty nineteen? We might might not be in this predicament that we are in take of course, the negative with the positive of with the with the business of racing today. There's been of course, many negatives there Bret has his fan base and people don't like how things work out. But one of the things that was really cool. When this announcement came out is you also received a ton of social media support from people within the sports such as Freddie craft Brian Kozlowski. Tommy, Joe Martins of everybody saying look this kid deserves this. He's not the quote unquote, spoiled rich kid you've worked your way here. How cool has it been have you seen those messages? And and what does that mean to you the people within the garage or saying pump the brakes this kid has a is good and he's deserved this. Yeah. I've seen all the vestiges. You know, I've been been scrolling through Twitter just kind of kind of looking at all the messages saying what everybody's saying. And you know, I get it. I I know there's going to be dot hard. Brett. It fans, and I hate it form. I really do you know this? This sport is a cutthroat sport, you know, without sponsorship and without backing you really can't go nowhere in sport. You can't can't go up the ladder. You know, I've been I've been fortunate enough to work with some great people and have some great partners in sponsorship to kinda just keep my name in. You know, I'm getting older I'm twenty four now. So I'm getting to that age where it's kinda make or break him. I going to stay in the truck series. Am I gonna move up expanded Cup or going to hang it up someday? So, but yet, you know, I'm known Freddie craft for a while. He he spotted for me a lot, you know, in in all the other guys that have been saying nice comments about me. I'm you know, I appreciate it. I'm I'm definitely very humble, I don't wanna say that we're going to go out there and like the world on fire. I don't know what twenty nineteen in a whole tours. I'll I knows I'm with the right group of guys to go, you know, possibly win some races, and possibly all everything works out be there at the end for the championship run. But it all kind of has to come together me and Scott gotta get bonding. To get you know, Jalen we chat with each other. And see what see what I'll I can don't like, you know, see what route they've kind of went down through, you know, Moffitt in twenty eighteen see see if those setups is something that I like her don't like, so, you know, the first few is just gonna get being get to know all the guys get to know kinda Milingo in their lingo going forward. So I'm a I'm very excited about I can't wait to get a Daytona. I'm gonna let you put the pressure on him because he said, I don't know to that nineteenth hold. I'm not saying we're going to like the world on fire. But you know, what your group is capable of. So tell me a little bit about, you know, obviously your expectations, but also being realistic with working with a new driver and kind of breaking him in. I'm very optimistic about two thousand nineteen we have I think we were a little bit underrated and two thousand seventeen once we got some new trucks Bill in two thousand seventeen and and we actually we had to rebuild this whole organization from the from the ground up seventeen and it took a little bit of time. But once we got some new trucks onto Ryan, we perform top-five a lot and we had opportunities to win. We just didn't win if we had won a race to. I think the the the basic. You know, what's the word? I'm looking for what people thought about the team would be a little bit different. But we didn't win in two thousand seventeen and two thousand eighteen we one five times. So was it a to me? It's a team effort did a great job. And he was a major part of this team. We've achieved a lot together. But I think you know, we're like like I said we're gonna have to get through the first few races and kind of learning other. The first four races are very important to to stay in the points and finish the races in and knock out some top fives. And just put some points in the Bank because it's hard to to catch back up, but expectations are realistic. That's that's what I like to look at our expectations are to run top five top seven all day long. And be at the end of the race close the deal. Not put pressure on ourselves. We had to go out there and lead laps and smoked field. Win the race. That's just not realistic these days, so we're going to have realistic expectations and execute well as we. We can and the rest will just work its way out. So it's funny as you were saying that I saw Austin's is flash out there in my eyes went out there because I think we were both looking at the banners, right? Because I think you slighted yourself on on six years. Yeah. Anakena and win. But. Tell me a little bit go back to what you'd said about in two thousand seventeen kind of almost starting over building from the ground up. Explain how because this team seems like it has come so far in a short amount of time. Kind of explain what that process has been the like the last couple years specifically you mentioned to seventeen in going two thousand eighteen and kind of all the work that has gone in to making this team something that everybody is paying attention to now in the truck series. Okay. So in first of the year two thousand seventeen I came to work for my creature was became general manager. It was Ryan was gonna drive basically there was four or five employee's here. They had three trucks the trucks were not good. They were old trucks. They had been through they've been through three or four different crew chiefs. So basically we had to start from scratch and design new truck front bumper to bumper from ductwork radiator, aero package, exhaust everything. We have today has been designed right here. So it's taken some time, and it's all about people and processes, so it's taken some time for myself to get my legs under this thing. And and write the processes down and hire the right people to do these jobs, and and quality control. And we built the truck our I new truck Kansas went and qualified and top four think we finished in top five and we just built on that package for the past two years. So when Brett got in he was in a much better situation than Ryan starting the year off because we had a pretty good package when we ended two thousand seventy it was a very successful year. But it took. You know, fourteen people at one time now, we're down to ten or ten employees here at the shop. It took a lot of time to get to where we're at a lot of late nights. A lot of hard work a lot of focus and the right people doing that we were able to achieve quite a bit last year. So he's stepping into I feel like a really good program like says, no drama here. We just focus on what we have to do. It's kind of a family atmosphere might take care of our employees. The guys have fun. And it's just it's really it's really fun to work here. So I think I think it's a good fit. So far about his parents and his personality is his wife had kids. Come. It's it's it's a fun place to be. Fit in those those ten employees is that what you're saying. You're at now it's over here. HRA ten ten employees. And they want to go out this year in improve that we love Brett we didn't want breath. Leave you know that was the third time. I had working with Brett we had one. Br I want a truck race before I think it was two thousand fifteen or sixteen I say and that was his first truck win. So now, we have seven truck wins together. But nobody was talking about Brett before he got here. So the media beaten us up about Brett why'd you fire brat. We didn't fire Brett get that clear. We did firebrand technically we'd never hired him. We were going race by race. But if we had our choice, we would have we would continue to program going going going, but the businesses the business, and I've been on both sides of it. And it's no fun at times. But I have a really good feeling. What Brett accomplish last year's going to get him something really well deserving in two thousand nineteen we just don't know. About yet. I think things are going to happen for him. You started to say something there about your team kind of how do they go into this year almost feeling like they wanna prove something? Absolutely. And that's what I love about. This guy's group of guys. They they bear hundred percent. They're all in. Yes. They wanna prove that we should have won races in two thousand seventeen we won in two thousand eighteen and we're going to win in two thousand nineteen right? We want we want to have a a race team. Where drivers could come in and show their show their talent kind of KBM. Does they switched drivers every year? Unfortunately with with the going up through the ladder. And you know, if you get an Acadian truck you have the equipment to win races. And that's what we feel like we do here. Austin? I just have to to gel, and and I hope we given the opportunity to he deserves one more for you. When I'll let you run out of here. If you want the truck series. Not only stack up your competition. Because you've you've now done this. If you years, obviously with last year, you you knew okay who this is who were or battling going into a new year. Some people have come and gone across a few different teams engines, and all this other blown I know that you you got into last year, but kind of just stack up the truck series for me in terms of how you view it as a competitor. How you view it from your team standpoint and just going into the new year. Just what you when when we're talking truck series. What comes to mind, I guess for you as far as the? The competition side of competitive petition just the series in general. And then from your team's perspective. Just I it's it's it's a fun series. Unfortunately, the series NASCAR and itself is moving in a different direction, and it's become a little bit more like extending in Cup with rules. So it's not as. We have a lot more rules than we had two years ago. And it's all about officiating and making it easy for NASCAR and a parody and all that which which we get it's the world we live in. It's very competitive. But, but it's it's a lot of fun. Is it more competitive than maybe folks from the from outside looking in would realize. Yeah, I I think the MS biggest misconception is how much different you have to drive a truck than a car. You know, trucks drive completely different aero package is different. A lot of the race checks. We go to almost wide open cars a lot a lot more decelerating time. So you to if if you study the sport in and become a really good truck racer. I think it will help you when you get to a car. But in saying that guys that have driven cars have gotten in trucks and done really well because they feel like trucks are easier. They drive better. But the r-. Racing experience when you race cars when you racing against fifteen better drivers, our drivers of more experience. You learn more things in doing that. So when you come to the truck series race against younger kids, you kind of school them on what you've learned in a car. But it it's it's fun. It's a fun series. And I believe it's going to be even more fun this year with gander mountain taking over its adds a little more excitement for us. Question. It's just when you think truck series. This one. Of the best series that everybody gets excited about right? And I hope it's a rebranding with this gander mountain. Hope it brings more excitement camping world's a great partner to. But just the change. I I'm okay with change. Yup. But the truck series is different than cars and and and expanding Cup race in. So when when people watch truckers, oh, it's the best race in out there while the races are shorter. She had to be more aggressive. You don't have time Cup races are so long. You you just keep making pit stops. And making pitstop pitstops we run short races. And you got to be on your game one or two days shows just different is. No, we get in. We race. We go home. You know, it's kind of like what we used to do when we were growing up. So and again, it it gives you a good balance of family life and also doing what you love. So I think everybody's mental state in their outlook is better than if you were at cups Cup team and you race at thirty six weeks. A year and you're on a road three nights a week. And you never saw kids. All this all that. Now your truck racing you making a living and you're on the road one night. The morale I believe is better and trucks a good truck shop than it is in a good Cup shop just because aren't so worn out. Just kind of stack up from from your team's perspective the competition kind of what you're expecting. I maybe this year in terms of you know, who's going to be the teams to beat in. What may you expect throughout the season? You know, the teams to beat I think or teams that that don't have any turnover. And I think I think most of the teams in this series have had had some sort of turnover. If you look at who we raced for the championship Noah Gregson, he's out Haley's, oh solder is still in. So he's his team is strong KBM has had changes new drivers. I'd expect their their trucks to be strong. Obviously Rudy's truck. He's got a bunch bunch of drivers Gillan kid. I'd say. Going back to what you said have turnover, and you can start already know what your direction is that that doesn't hurt. No. It does turnovers is sometimes difficult to deal with. So you know with our success? I think everybody was excess last year. Everybody was very pleased to to we'll be accomplished and they want to. They don't want to leave lead HR easy to go to G M S like you just make it up just moving to move maybe fifty dollars a week here or there, but they've all got skin in the game. And everybody works like they like they own the place, and they they don't wanna they don't wanna walk away from from what we have done. And let's try to do it again. And that's impressive again going back to the fact that you guys have everybody. There's there's no turnover. No, that's that's that's key to everything right there. It takes it takes so much so much time and effort to gel new team. To build one to where you guys now have gone back to everything that you put into it to get to this point. And then not have to change a thing is. Thought in everybody's bought into this from the from the beginning. We've had some bumps in the road. Don't get me wrong. You always do. But but these guys they're just their the heart of the team. They're just they're fun. They go to dinner together, we hang out together. There's never any personal issues. Squabbling pay gotta take your dog to the vet going out and get you take you bet, and they don't have to tell them they'll come back and spend an hour or two later than everybody else to make up for what their responsibility was. So they have ownership in it. But I really you really got to give the owner a lot of credit. She a Tory because he gives us the latitude to do this. He he's never told me what I cannot do or what I can do. He basically threw the keys at us. Never second. Guessed my performance side for their we want to raise the D comes out there. And I cut the right side of the truck off, you know, he's like oh you make an update. Yup. I'll cut like he just. Trust the people. He's hired their job is. And they know what they need to do in second guessing, he doesn't I I don't he's never ever second-guessed anything that I've done even the starting of the the the first year for us at seventeen when I was cutting all these trucks up and buy new parts in the he's, you know, he never he just trusted that we were fix it. And I think once the performance started going you saw trend line was getting better. He saw that. I think he could trust us, and we want trust factor was because the big the key here is not to put them out of business. We want to run this place for you know, more five more years in that tire. In the in. The sport is like, no, we're we're here to stay. We don't that's those mistakes pick your battles focus on our budget where we need it. And and keep everybody employed in through all of our ups and downs last year. His biggest question was everybody. Okay. Are the guys? Okay. Payroll was his priority insurance and making sure these guys were okay, not anything else. But his people mazy. He's a nice, man. He's a good, man. And and that's what that's why these guys worked so hard because they know he's got he's got their back. I pick your brain on tens of millions of things, but I'll let you get out of here and get back to work, and I'm sure you're to give back in there. But I've got a few more questions for your driver. Thank is if the I appreciate it. So Austin one of the things that that zippy. Now, we're talking about is. He said he made the comment going from a car to a truck in a car a truck completely different. So you've done some Canaan you've done some ARCO. What did you learn going from that car and then coming into that truck last year, you know, the the big the biggest transition was tires from from Canaan car are different or they're not now. But they were they were biased plot tires versus radio tires that you're on in the truck series. So that was probably the biggest transition for me was you know, the the bias flaws. You could if you got tight you got loose or whatever you could kind of draft through it, you kind of yet kind of ate up the tires a little bit probably, but you could drive through it radio tires. You start getting a vibration if you if you try to drive through the right front tire. If you try to. If you get and you just start stabbing the gas, it kind of gives you like a kind of you know, a shaky feel to the to the rear the truck. So that was probably the biggest transition for me going from Kane into to the trucks, and then also I had never been on amount of half track. So when a, you know, I initially ran my first I ever mount a half race believe it was that Atlanta. You know, the first first half a practice may be the first whole practice. It kinda kinda took a little bit to get used to. You know, how how much side force these trucks have and everything just being able to stay committed to the gas because you know, what's going to stick? So that that was probably the biggest thing. But once I started, you know, getting the hang of it. I think we ended up finishing twelfth in the first ever race owned by our family on team, which we thought was a really good day for us. I think after the first two or three races. I started kind of figuring it out. And you know, learn that these trucks are so much easier to drive. Than the cane in our cars, are you can just you can drive the ever living crap out of them. And it's it's going to stick. You know, even some of the trucks that I've drove where it's just so loose or so tight or whatever you still you still can drive the heck out of it. Yeah. You might be back there round in fifteenth. But you're still able to really hustle a truck as for the callers, you know, if if you get if you start getting really really loose really really tight or whatever, and you're really having to get out of the gas and all that it's it's it's kind of a nightmare when you're in the canon series. But as far as the trucks go, they seem a lot easier. You know, another another big transition was you do a lot of side drafting, especially amount of half's you do a lot of side drafting where he suck in on their their quarter panel. And then you gotta get off of minister time and get get a a gap. You know from the bubble of air. You gotta get that gap. So to pull up the Sodom. So I was kinda getting schooled there when I first started doing it. I was I was getting schooled pretty bad. Probably the first five six races on amount of half. You know, I kept saying man, what do I gotta do to figure it out? Will Rogers when I had him on the podcast, and he was saying pretty much something to the same effect. Is you go from those cars, and then you get on the mile and a half you get on these bigger Ray strikes. And you're not just learning cars trucks. The you're learning the air. You're like you said you're learning drafting and all this other stuff that that. That's it throws in a whole new element to just trying to figure out what your car or your truck is doing and competing against all these guys. And I gotta deal with the air. When you when you get into the truck series than you've never you've never done anything with amount of half. Where you're you're having to deal with air the air part of it's just as much of an import as as the truck part of getting your chassis, right? And getting you know, your body's writing in getting handling good because I couldn't tell you. How many times that we went out there and practice, you know, last year. We would we would be good. It felt like the truck was handling good. We could run wide open at a loss Vegas or wherever we were at we could run wide open. No problem never lifted never thought about lifting. You get in traffic. You're now, you're lifting. Now, you're you know, you get behind somebody in air gets on the hood of the in the front on the nose, you start losing the knows you start getting tight and start, you know, really chatter in the front tires, and you know, you gotta in reysen especially in the truck series they in and I'm sure it is like this the next inning Cup. I've never been in them. But they're always talked about make sure you keep your headlight out. So that means you want to keep your left front or right front headlight out to keep some air down on the splitter. On the front end to keep the splitter from popping up. So, you know, if you if you get completely behind somebody on amount of half, and you go off in the corner near stuck right behind him that that front ends gonna pop up the splitters gonna come off the ground. You're just gonna get so ERO tight that. There's nothing you can do you're gonna lose so much time off the corner. You had to regain all that. I'm sure a lot of people see it when they watch the races. You know, you have a guy come in. And catch them all of a sudden, he makes one mistake, and he doesn't get that headlight out. Now, he's ten truck links back and has to make it all back up. So that was probably one of if not the hardest thing to really figure out and grasp and one good thing about running for for a tour. This year is I I think that they're they're front impact is going to be a little bit better than what I what I've been used to. So I think going into Atlanta, I'm gonna see something. Totally different than I've ever seen on amount of half. I think that it's going to the front ends to kinda react a little different a lot differently than what I would have been used to rayson, you know, tight taking nothing away from Young's marriage sports. They have done a phenomenal job to where it to get to where they are today and without them. I probably wouldn't be where I'm at. But just as far as the you know is the body's go the the front in front impact is the splitter the nose just everything, you know, that comes with come into HR e think it's gonna be a big change. And I think it's going to be a a really Big Eye opener for me going into Atlanta. Last year. Correct me if I'm wrong that was your first full season. Got a full season of trucks on your belt. You just talk about all the air drafting things you learn last year when we were standing on the shop floor before we started recording. We were talking about race tracks, and you said, well, I'll never had anything go right there. When you when you look ahead to this year, and what you learned last year. What tracks do you think will will suit you in that? You're looking forward to maybe we'll be the strengths view this season. The biggest race tracks. I'd say that are that are probably going to be the ones that I kind of have checked off on my my lists for this year as far as wanting to do. Well, and potentially be the fighting for the win at the end of the race pass to be definitely Atlanta. Yes, it's my home track. But that's not the only reason I love worn out surfaces in Atlanta's one of those services. This worn out your tires. They just they they're junk after ten laps. Ten fifteen Lampton. You're you're really wanting tires. But you can't get them. You know, you gotta go through that first stage before you can get some tire. So I really think Atlanta's one of those. Tracks that even if you are a lower budget team as long as you got all your ducks in a row, you got you know, all of the components on the truck that you need in your stuff handles good. You could make something happen. And you know, these guys they they won their last year. So I'm really optimistic going to Atlanta. I I really have high hopes not just because it's my my hometown home racetrack. But I'm just excited for all. The rough surfaces any anywhere that rough anywhere where you're you're really having to lift you're not wide open. I'm really excited for that. Another one has to be Dover. I've won twice in the Canaan series. Had a shot at winning for third time in a row in Canaan ended up having a a motor go south on us in ended our day. So in the truck series. We haven't really had the I wouldn't I wouldn't say look on our side. But just we've just had stuff happen. The last two years and twenty seventeen we had a very good Trump. Didn't qualify. Very good for whatever reason. But as soon as green flag drop out. Thank we drove from eighteenth the tenth or something Levin. We were fighting for to get inside that top ten and we were running times that were capable enough to run inside the top five all day. And I think a lap car. Kind of wrecked. We ended up getting in on the last year. We got tangled up battling for ten with another driver took us out. And we we couldn't finish the day. So Dovers one of those tracks that I kind of kind of have redemption just because last year and the year before I felt like we had top five to seven plays truck. Maybe even better depending on how pit pit road worked out, and you know, pitstops and just coming down to the end of the race. Having say we have a late race caution. We have a restart. There's no telling what could have happened. So definitely one of those. We didn't really have the best race at Canada. But I've always loved row course rice in. Heck, I wish they had eight road course races this year, but they don't incase. N n I never I never won a road course rice. But we always seem to be there. We always there there were so many times that we would be leading the race in something. Go wrong. I know we were the first year we ever went. And Watkins Glen, we were fastest fastest in practice. Qualified like third took the lead early, and, you know, had a left front go down during the rice. So and it ended up putting us out. So I'm really optimistic going into Canada's. Well, guess said we didn't have that great of a truck. I honestly Canada's one of those row courses that is tough and the all a lot of elevation change a lot of left, and right turns that in you just a lot of places where you're you're carrying a lot of speed. And then there's a lot of places where you're really slowing down a lot to get through the corner. So there's so much balance wise that you have to do to to make your truck. Go fast at a Canada. But I'm I'm excited to go. There. Yeah. Yeah. And as far as any other races go I don't really have any other one kind of on my list. I feel like we've always been good at martinsville. And I love martinsville. Every time we've been there. We've we've had good truck. We've always had you know, a shot at Ronin good last year. We finished night there. I want to say the first time the second time. I don't I don't remember what happened. But so we've always had pretty good trucks there. But yeah, I mean, you know, like like I said before I'm I'm very I'm very humble driver. I'm not I'm not going to tell you that we're going to go out there. And like I said before like the world on fire win six races. Like Brett Moffitt in the championship. Yeah. You wanna do that you want to go out there and and and win? But until we get that first win. We're just gonna keep it. You know, we wanna go run good. We wanna go run top five. And if we get a win out at great if not we'll go to the next rice and see what we can do. Win. So this is what I want to end it on perfect. Perfect segue. This team has obviously proven they can win. Can you Austin hill go out and win this year? Yeah. Yeah. You know, I'm I feel confident myself I like to I'm the type of driver that I liked to kinda let the finishes and everything speak for themselves. I don't like being that guy that says I'm gonna go out there and and win all these races. But I I do feel like I'm capable enough to to go in and and go compete and run run with Johnny solders run with Matt craft ins and run with those guys that have been doing it for years and all the veterans in. You know, I think would would especially this team, and what they accomplished in two thousand eighteen you know, there's really no reason why we can't go out there and run top five, and you just have to have everything go right in the race. You have to seal the deal like like Scott was saying, you know, he he expects us to go run top five for the most part if we're having off-day top ten, but ultimately heat. He expects us to go run top off. And then it comes down to the end of the rice. You just you might have that last pit stop. That gets you off pit road. I and and you might have a late race caution. Where it's a green white checkered in your run a second or third. You just gotta go make it happen. Then then it's all up to the drivers. The guys have done their part. They got you put in that position. Now, you gotta go make it happen. So I feel like I'm capable enough to go. Do it. Austin? Thank you zippy was in her early. I appreciate both you and looking forward to seeing you in the sixteen truck this year. You can't get I can't wait to get going. All right back for the second part of our podcast today over here HRA. So max mcglaughlin I saying that right? Absolutely. So I don't know you very well. So this is going to be fun. I'm going to get to know you we are recording. This before it's been announced saw my teacher secret for a little bit. But you're gonna run some canine races over here with HR eight first off tell me a little bit about how this deal came together. You know, we just kind of look for the best opportunity we had some sponsors from my dirt program in other areas. A lot of a big group of investors to help me go asphalt racing. And they, you know, tell send us down here to look for the best possible operation, and this is actually the first place we went so to end up here at HR. It's a huge for my, you know, my career, and this is exactly where we wanted to be. So to make it happen means a lot. And as of right now, as we talk maybe more details will come out when the official announcement comes out, but we know that you guys are going to run the full season. And you're going to be the driver, but number and all that stuff is still to be determined. It's still up in the air sponsorship. I mean, we have a really really awesome group of supporters have really supported me my whole career. But as far as them being announced, you know what race and all it hasn't been announced either. So I'll we knows we're going race and full time. And we're definitely excited. Yeah. So all right. Let's talk a little bit about where you're coming from. Because you just mentioned you're making the change to asphalt. So your background is on. I believe you've been running those super dirt car big block modified tour. So tell everybody a little bit about your background, and and how much dirt you've been doing and really where you've been running all that I've been reading dirt my whole life. I started here Milberg speedway. When I was eleven years old ran there for a long time went to modifies driving for Nick Hoffman driven sprint card dirt late models. Every car you can possibly think of I've driven it in the last three years, I've been full-time on the supercar series, traveling that circuit for Al Hanky and HP our team, and they've helped me a lot and kind of took me on when I didn't have anything else going on. And really didn't have a place to go racing. So if it wasn't for Hanky, I probably wouldn't even be racing today. So very thankful for him. And then a lot of dirt rayson we've had some good success. And and a lot of different races. And we wanted some pretty pretty good shows your last couple of years. So, you know, hopefully, we have the same results on the asphalt and Butler definitely excited to go. As far as. Because when I was on your website, looking some stuff up I'd go to, you know, the meat max tab, and it just is this list of wins. Here championships here wins here when so Brad a little bit about your success. And you mentioned some of those big wins and things that you've accomplished under. You know, one of my favorites is the super dirt week. The pre limb night there, we won, you know, as the youngest person everyone one big block race at, you know, at a super dirt week event, and that was really cool to me and to be to put my name on guys like TIMMY McCreevy, and I know Billy decker. Matt Shepard guys that have one triple thirties at dirt week. It's a very cool to, you know, put my name on that list and think I was only sixteen or seventeen years old when I did that. So that was cool, and you know, youngest set fast time, I was fifteen years old at world finals. So that was actually my first time and a big block modified too. So that was really special to us, and we've won and everything we've ever Brandon. I guess so the que it'll be the next step and really look forward to that, you know, chance to to go rayson and really hungry to get wins there too. So we've had really good success last couple of years and just. Really excited to get going. Why make the transition from Bert two asphalt? Why is this something you wanna do? It's always been something. I wanted to do I've always wanted to go asphalt racing. You know, it's kind of the nature of the beast down here. Everything's asphalt in North Carolina and never really had the funding to do. So never had the, you know sponsorship to go asphalt racing and we do this year. So that was huge for us and our sponsors kinda said, let's go for it. Let's do it. And here we are. Comes to. I mean, obviously competing on dirt takes one set of skills. Were you intimidating? You're gonna have to try and tell your brain and do when you get on asphalt. To neo. I ran a super late model and a late model stock, and it was a different world for sure, but it may be used to real comfortable driving a loose race car. You know, I remember one time at caraway where qualifying and I thought I got a little loose off the Carter and didn't think anything of it and people are high five in me and everything when I came in, you know, asking how did you save that car? And I was like what I that was nothing. Yeah. It's just second nature. So I, you know, even testing I tested for MD MDM earlier. I think you know, then the last year, and we went really, well, I was really comfortable at the end of the day in the car. And you know, it's same thing. It's just you know, it's something different to get used to. But the dirt racing. I think will teach you a lot. And I think it's easier to go from dirt to asphalt than it is asphalt to. And you know, you see a lot of guys have success in the sport. Like Kyle Larson. Christopher bell coming from that dirt background. And you know, hopefully, we can do the same. Last year with knees motor sports. I believe you were considered a driver development program over there. Was there an opportunity to do more races with them or why just the one race? There was you know, originally we were supposed to run a couple more races and just kind of fell apart. Not really sure, you know, a hundred percent on the reasons, but it did. And you know, they were really happy with you know, how L door turned out. And I think it was just, you know, some things happen later in the year where you know, they had to build new tracks, and they had to spend a little more money than they thought they they would have to and that kind of took away from our program. So whatever it is what it is. But really happy to to end up where we're at and everything happens for reasons. So firm believer in that tell me a little bit. Explain what is your relationship or your deal with Toyota? Do you have one because I know obviously, anybody that comes into the Toyota program is is normally tied to them in some way is that I haven't. I haven't been in the past. But you know, this is a Toyota team. And you know, we've came together on this deal and really happy to work with them this year and to have that Toyota support is huge. And you know, have always said that a lot of my friends are have been Toyota drivers, or are, you know, Todd Gill and Harrison Burton Logan CV. I could list them off all day. To to be a part of that program. It's really huge. It's what it takes to make it to the next level. Their development program is huge. They really take the you know modern day, raise her and and make them the next star in the sport. So really awesome to be tied in with Toyota. This year really excited to be part of that. Fans may recognize your name because they're going to hear it and go wait a minute, dad. Mike ran some NASCAR races. He's also done dirt stuff. He's what was the nineteen eighty eight. Modified champ. I believe he's in the dirt hall of fame. So what's it been like kind of being under the learning tree of of of dad where he's got all this experience? He's run in NASCAR. Now, you're getting ready to do the same. It's been really cool. You know, I'm really lucky to have a guy like him behind me. He's helped me so much in the dirt. And I sat down with Joey Logano last week. And you know, dad was Joey's driver coach to Joey Denny Eric Merola helped all those guys as their driver coach Gibbs, and Joey said to me, you know, you need to listen to your dad. I know sometimes it's not easy to listen to your dad, but you know, he helped me a lot and dad used to always, you know, he pounds me and same thing with Joey two pounds in our heads to take notes take notes take notes after the race before the race anything. You learn. Take note of it. Because you will forget it to this day, Joey still takes notes. So, you know, he's definitely learned a lot from my dad, and he made sure that to make sure that I'll listen to them too. So that was pretty cool to hear. So it's definitely a a huge tool to have him in our camp. And you know, I think it will help not only myself, but you know, Austin to from taking notes, what are some of the other biggest lessons that dad has given you about racing work ethic. You know, worked for what you get every the last three years I've worked fulltime the dirt shop and going to work fulltime here on you know, the NASCAR side of it too. So he's probably the hardest working guy I've ever seen. He doesn't stop would really he'll work all night and get up early in the morning before anybody else's air too. So. He definitely made me work for what I have. And I appreciate that. And it's taught me a lot. And I I believe, you know, if I go farther sport, I'd still like to work on the cars to on the higher up you go. You don't really see it as much, but I'd like to always be part of it for sure. Cars. And when I came in today, you're out there, wiping down Canaan doing different stuff. What do you anticipate? You're going to be doing over here at the shop everything. I I don't know. I just if there's something I can't do I'd like to learn how to do it. So I've taken care of my dirt cars completely basically do anything except build a motor. I don't want anything to do with building a motor. That's, but I, you know, my dirt cars, I build my own shocks. I scale my car, I set it up, and I can pretty much build a dirt car from the ground up. So the asphalt's definitely new to me. So, you know, if I can learn that I'd like to know the same at the end of the day, you know, the end of this year, I'd like to say that I can build a asphalt car from the ground up. And that's my goal at the end of the year. At the end of the year. Let's let me end with this question at the end of the year. What do you want to have said that you accomplished in the Canaan series? What are your expectations? What are your goals? What do you think you and this team still do be announced can go out and do this year as you continue to make that transition a payment? It's all new to me, but they've proven that their championship capable team. You know in the truck series eight got it done last year. And I know they've you know can capable of winning races on the Canaan side. Do they walk ins Glenn last year? They're definitely the dominant car. So if I do my part and work hard at it. And learn everything I can you know, I don't see a reason why we can't walk away his champions. Great and getting to know you a little bit. Hopefully, we'll get to do that more throughout the season. Looking forward to to see you in the car and covering you this year, thanks for giving us some time. Thank you.

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EPISODE 101 -- RICKY CRAVEN PART 3

The Down and Dirty Show

1:13:48 hr | 1 year ago

EPISODE 101 -- RICKY CRAVEN PART 3

"Hello, my name is Rik Houston and welcome to the scene. Volkov cast your source for all things. NASCAR history presented by Q.. Wear maintain excellence. The racing world people I needed to convince a really convinced that I was working of another opportunity. For about three and a half years, I was not an enjoyable person to be around. When we went under the chequered flag I remember this feeling of time stood still. Television have been predicated on my experiences and saying why absolutely truly believe. That Bay Nascar and all associated in any way with Mascot forget the past. We donate any. Hello I'm Steve. Wade and my name is Rik Houston and welcome to the scene bought podcasts presented by Q.. Where and Steve. I have a question. Okay all right Ed. Nine man, you WanNa buy some old newspapers. How is it but I? Know what this is all? Steve we have wound up with the entire stock of our former distributor at saying he was the guy who is responsible for newsstand sales and getting the papers from the printer to the melon house where they were sent out to the subscribers. What we picked up were complete uncirculated pristine runs of Grand National Cup scenes from the very first issue in nineteen, seventy, seven through nineteen, ninety, six, ninety, seven or so. And, then the one that I was really kind of excited, about was a pristine run of uncirculated grand. National, Slash Winston Cup illustrated's. From the very first issue in that teen, eighty, two through about two, thousand and seven or eight, why that is a mine right there? Oh my goodness, and then there were a ton. Of Extras I mean. We now have thirty copies. Of the issue that covered Mark Martin's first. Win Your that mark. We've got ten or twelve fifteen or so of the nineteen eighty nine, the winston, the thing with Rusty and Dr Walter, or they got together coming off. Turn four there. This was awesome man. There were stuff in here that I didn't even know. Existed got maybe ten special issues of Winston. Cup illustrated feature in the nineteen eighty nine speed weeks and the photography. The photography in this issue. Is just absolutely. Stunning. I am not surprised. Knowing my boys back then Steve I. Do have one question okay? All the grand national illustrated's that came up with I want to say about the second or third issue of the second year now ninety three featured on the cover, a shirtless Dale earnhardt. No sitting atop his horse. ENQUIRING MINDS WANNA. Know How in the world did that I? Convinced did it take to get earnhardt to do that well actually back then. It didn't take a whole lot He was willing to do it. I'm the one that came up with the idea. So, we went to a farm in Concord North Carolina. and He came with us. and. He. An arm that they had a horse called son was his name, said well trained, or EARNHARDT got on the Horse in just a natural Ryder and Rogan horse down across a meadow up to a fence, and stopped right there, and that's why Tiger for was. And, so we had dale take off his shirt. I can't believe I'm telling the story. I can't believe you are either. And impose at the Horse there and gone off a few good shots, no problem but the horse. He was fed up with the whole thing just turned around and rode right back to the bar and they'll had no way of. What we did. Get the shot, so we looked at the pictures. With be cool. We'll have Dale earnhardt. Not, known as intimidate them, but a regular guy and we'd have to him. Sitting on this horse put him on the car. It'd be great. It's fans will love. It was bands might have. Not, too many other people did we got comments like this is a racing magazine not. Not a Horse magazine. Do you think Dale Earnhardt bonkers and the pages of playgirl? What's the matter with you? So Let's just chopped up to great intention bad results. We picked up everything in two vehicles. Adam Jesse drove my CR Vay, and then I drove with genie in her Chevrolet traverse and Steve both vehicles were absolutely. Packed arrive no doubt hacked. And while we were there, while we're actually loading up, and everything I actually tweeted about what we were doing, and what were were acquiring, and I mentioned the fact that everything had cost about five hundred dollars more than what I had expected and stay. Bama Lousy negotiator and I think it. Kinda showed that I wanted these things. Anyway. We actually had people help out with that additional five hundred dollars and they actually defrayed that. And Steve on pay POW this week. We got support from Scott. Burgess Jeremy Ri- Mary Zero. Mark O'Brien Michael Corbin Scott trivet Jordan. Matthew Elliott brought beard beard. Jeffrey has Mary Egan Luis Torres Jackie Hawe. Jared Stanley Door Rupe. Bob Ellis Robin scarberry Aj h collectibles and Matt Rosenberg. They all helped us out with this project and defrayed the expanse of buying this big archive. Honestly I want to have to go through and determine everything that we have specifically exactly what all we have. Those folks who helped out on pay pal. DEB's. The shirt and I'm going to take care of them. And after that everything else is going to be up. Available on Patriot on. Very Patriot on in the last couple of months has kind of fallen off a little bit, and I'm going to be honest with you at least part of that. Is My fault because I have not been able to send out the patriotic incentives like I should have because the fact is I'm kinda nervous about going to the post office right now. Because everything going on, but I think we definitely need to share this with everybody who has supported us for so long, so this was a big purchase and I'm very proud of and the illustration and the scenes that are absolutely pristine. They were worth the expense. Agree on percent recognize I, really appreciate what those folks did. View. I mean that was a nice gesture on their part, and they will be rewarded, and I think that's a good idea as well. Steve this week in our first segment where you're gonNA share the third and final installment of our interview with Ricky Craven and Steve He talks about what basically amounted to his wilderness years when he was failing to qualify for races, and then not finish in well when he did make the failed one. Thanks should be very clear. Ricky Craven should never ever be defined by the REX. That, he endured at Talladega and Texas. or about injuries that he sustained Texas. This is the legacy that ricky. Craven has is a race car driver. He came back from those lane years, and he came back from those crashes, and he came back from those injuries. That were so severe. And followed his way back to wins at Martinsville and at Darlington, and both of those finishes were incredibly excite, right I hadn't been for that and Ricky had just gone away after his injuries and his wilderness years. We could hardly qualify for raises. I'm afraid his career would have flamed out and I think the know anybody remember today. Steve Finnan our second segment. We're going to go back to the March twentieth. Two Thousand and three issue of Winston Cup sane that issue covered. Ricky's just incredible. When over Kurt Busch, there was also an incredible bursaries finished the next day because of rain now between Jamie, mcmurray and Todd Bohdan. That was every bit as exciting as the Cup finish. Finish had been, and then there was also a really big package of stories on NASCAR's reaction to the United States invading Iraq. Well I was a very very big moment in American history, and it couldn't be ignored Steve this wake. Also we have new patriots support from Maryland Zero so not only did Mary step up to the plate on pay pal. She also stepped up and is going to help out on Patriot on so they. Love that Mary. There's something about Mary. Never heard that one before. Support US all Patriot supporters I'll pay pal support qr support Bryan Kehl. I appreciate them and I appreciate the people who support patron. I appreciate the people who supporters through pay pal. I especially appreciate the people who helped us out with the purchase price and everything so if you can. Please help us out on patron. That address would be patriotic dot com slash. PODCAST or if you prefer just to do a one time, show US support, you can do that through pay. Pal Dot me! Slash the saint bought podcast. Ricky the year two thousand. You're driving the number fifty midwest transit car and there are a bunch of the cues. was there ever a point? Doan the tile and walking away from the sport yeah probably. Count. A beautiful home on Moosehead Lake in Maine. A. Terms of enough money so I'm good because. I. Didn't think along those lines, but I had a lot to live for in for the first satellites of race wasn't joyal. Just really was was heavy lifting. But. I, also remember this tug of War I. had was myself that. I feel great, you know. Roughly straight years removed in the injuries. I led seventy laps in New Hampshire call. I love once Alaska rocking him in that car. That was a tiny tiny. You know a James Fench type car. If I'm not sure we were eating up to that standard. You know we're doing some remarkable things. Could not convince the world. The racing world people that I needed to convince couldn't really convince them that I was worthy of another opportunity. Like I had gotten with Rick Hendrick and. Then along comes cow wills and. Those were the glory days. Glory days with a tight car it was. It was just an incredible final chapter at my. Ricky also in the year two thousand there is this huge debate over safety. After we lost Adam and Kinney Tony, and after everything you had been through, you must have had some kind of opinion about what was going on, and all the furious uproar that was taking place about what should be done and everybody had ideas. Is it like for you to be in that position. Well. I have to see. Like The description of nineteen ninety, eight. Ninety seven. was probably too insecure to be of any value. I was very sensitive. About weighing in on safety issues where you because I felt good. Because I felt would be a perception that if if if I if I choose to champion safety over performance. Safety over desire. Safety over. Being a cup winner. Then owners would look past me. And I'm her. would be you know that I will be? I didn't want to be a spokesperson for safety. I wanted to win a compromise. I can tell you the people closest to me in one thousand, nine, hundred ninety second half of ninety seven. Ninety Eight, ninety, nine, two, thousand for three and a half years. I was not in. I was not an enjoyable person to be around. I had worked my entire life. To win. A NASCAR Cup series love. My entire life. I aspire to be erased. Heart driver when I was five or six years old, sitting in the grandstands watching my dad could be a speedway ninety five Bangor rain. and. Early, nineteen ninety seven. As you point out. I. Race for Hendrick motorsports Irvine Daytona five hundred. After Rockingham Jeff's leading the points on second points disappeared. Disclosed in all disappeared so three and a half years later I was laser focused on. What my objective want us. My message was. And it was primarily centered around convincing people that was hundred percent, healthy and worthy of the next opportunity. Now having said that because I don't WANNA sound crass. I don't want to don't want to sound dismissive. When we lost Clifford, Allison. Adam Petty Kanye. Though, those three drivers were colleagues. They were castle ferments. There's people that I competed against it I knew. I'd be lying if I said to you. That didn't have a profound effect on human beings. It had effect on everyone. Our gener- generally speaking probably all reflected the same way you know like okay. I know this risk. A number considered dying. and. COMPARTMENTALIZE that. Because I'm on the opposite end of the equation. I'm not thinking about how many races I've. One is a time to hang of the helmet I'm thinking. What am I wanted to do to win a race to get an opportunity, so it can win a cup races one everything. And and I really just moved past it. And I can say that I did that. Up, until. February of two thousand one and You. Know that that that. That really changed. Change entire Roger it really. Run two. Thousand Wind your do. But cal wells now this is a much higher quality organization in what you had been with even so giving your desire to win, even sell. How much pressure did you feel to perform in that car? Well. Steve, I felt pressure, but I always see. In here's line. The pressure I felt to perform in the car. was. Insignificant compared to the pressure I had failed to three and a half years prior to try and land and opportunity form right. I really believe that all what had gone through galvanized be for the opportunity. And we were very fast right out of the gate all the way through the season. We just found ways to lose that we finally put it together. What season Ricky you do have some pretty decent runs that year your fifth at Rockingham, your fourth at Dover. You sit on the pole and finished second Michigan, and then you go Martinsville in the fall, and that race wasn't giving you and dele. JERROD are rice in for that win. What do you remember about that day? I remember. Kevin Harvick in Bobby Hamilton getting into. And all of a sudden, you know it's it's it's is the Mola. Slight. I'm not at Daytona. Not at Talladega or Texas Motor speedway transit maybe didn't play my strength. Leading race. Off, Oxford Plains speedway. Unity raceway. Now the speedway ninety five. You know this is my forte. It's always been. My strength was short track racing. I honestly remember making up my mind today. Today. In We went under the chequered flag is difficult design flaws of? I remember this feeling of. Time stood. Still it really did for moment, and there's a lot more to the day that I consist. Expand Valentine's a couple of the bright spots, okay? It's the best twenty laps I ever drove in my life. Mike be made the decision to right side tires. They'll jerk gut four. Dale Jerry had one string race. It was one of the two or three cars to be, but during that day the tide corner was the car to be now. Why do I say that? Because we led the most laps you know? We were the car to be. and. The last twenty laps were the hardest I've ever driven. In arguably the best I've ever driven I just I. I cherish. The MARLINS will win ten times more than the Darlington when. I cherish more than any other women in racing life because. Finally did it and is crazy as it sounds. Coming from your person who has three beautiful children. Very very bright. Very well, mannered wonderful children. I can I approach should be ashamed or same, as but my life would be complete, even though I. All these things to be so proud of unhappy life would be completed I didn't WANNA. Cop Race. That's how I felt then and to some degree I've softened, but. You know, but I've got to come so I don't think about it anymore. Important and I gotTa tell you that. We win a race in. It's like time stands still and I come out of the moment in Tommy Baldwin. Had overpaid road jumped up on the wall. This hasn't airs like the First Person I. See I'm like you know. Thomas Friend for life. You know you'll get to see a brothers saluting you. Come down pit road, there's so many people that acknowledged me. As the first driver to me was Dale Jarrett. Calls. ME. Somebody I always admire. This always admired his him. I remember Jeff. Who are the Victory Lane? Okay. There you go. You know took longer than it should. But you got, you deserve I remember Kelton walking into Victory Lane Light Hughes John Wayne. You know just just as proud and strong you know big burly Mike Helton. Sticks at hand out, and I could see almost. You almost fell ill, maybe maybe. Put too much Hollywood into this but I almost. Mike was a little bit emotional about it. Know like I'm happy for you. You had quite a journey. and. Always remember the people that contributed along the way Kinda like. Your, family, you don't WanNa, let you down. That contribute right, I remember. Seeing so many of those people after winning Martinsville saying the next hour here in foam. There's this review. Change the rest of my life. You go from that in two thousand and one, and then in two thousand and three, what widely regarded as one of the greatest finishes of all time. I know that you've been asked about that day a million Tom. But you've got a picture of the Finnish hanging on the wall behind you when you see that picture. What do you say what do you think of? Well. There are times. Where I think to myself of. Not not very often, but there were times. where I think what does she had gotten her. Could you want I? Feel felt. Cups. In one thousand, nine, hundred five I. Remember Thinking to myself. If I stay healthy. You know all things being equal, I should have double digit wins. That was predicated on my desire, my determination and also how while at run at a number of tracks which national series that were. So. Easy for me to say now I reflect on Darlington. They say well. I am. As A TWO-TIME Cup one. Plain simple. That's fine. To time coupling. But. I don't think Darlington in ways equal. Tracks. In my own world in my own twisted way I you know gone to. Look at the list of dryers or one dollars. Track to off the team. and. It takes me back to the first time. I walked in Arlington in Nineteen, ninety, two and I said what in the hell. Is like nothing nothing doing lumber period. And wrong biller as he did so many times came to my rescue, nine, hundred, ninety three. Ninety two. and. At. and. How will you do? Attract is in large part determined by whether you like it or hate right? And I and I was leaning toward hating. Raw introduced me to David Pearson. And David Pearson took me around and Ron van in nineteen, ninety-three. And and I gave him the utmost respect for the most obvious reasons. These were our icons and. I was so skeptical never would I. I wouldn't admit this for years that I was. Skeptical sitting in the passenger seat in listening to him. Describe I hit. Stop vans say. What are you doing here massive? Will. I'm still full-throttle. Goes. Really. He goes okay. I. Want you to lifting right here. And I was I was skeptical to those like. All right I know he's the greatest error to compete at Darlington but. myself this. Pearson's been a long time since you race and. So then I said Okay Sir I understand. And I made a mental note have a marker on track of where he said I should be lifting. And we go down into the cooler and he says. What are you doing here? Maybe another maybe another. Two hundred fifty feet. He goes. What are you doing right here? And I said. I'm probably GONNA. move off the gas none of the break. God this disease? He said this is going to be. Says Noor. Told you start to lift, and I said yes, I have a marker. In, he goes so right here on what you're going back to the gas. I said we're row, so I said we're entering quite haven't gotten. As it were entered in corn. I swear to you guys I. Swear to you. Two hours later I. Sit on the pole in the Bush. Ran National Series Nineteen ninety-three. Look it up. I think Warburton was Oh cycle I'm not kidding. I. Win Darla the in a large heart, because of the things that Dale. David Peterson Incorporated my head, but also because played to my trying stop. So good with feed. You know I wasn't a. Jeff Tony Stewart Rusty. Wallace. Throw the car. I was not that kind of driver. I might have been prior to recognize seven. I might have been a little bit out. But I was really good. Preserving tax managing helps and. And Without David Pearson's influence. I don't get that. When at announcement came down to it came down to. A David Pearson mentality. With twenty laps to go on seven seconds behind Kurt Busch and Kurt Busch being net that Kinda guy throws the car. You know just earlier in the day Kurt Bushman three wide. Honor Thick, Jeff Gordon Elliott Sadler and the. Like. To you'll give that Dalton. Daunton the track philosophically usually slapstick a hell out of your for. Making three wide Lee, half three. White Castle lead. But that's how drove is he was really on that day? But. I feel like. He forgot where he was racing in its Brune. The tires off the car and and. I was just so during. The following year you do part ways with cow after new, Hampshire in the fall, and then you do a one off race with Joe Gibbs at Talladega later in the season. Were you looking for another odd at that point, or were you pretty content to be stepping away from the car and maybe looking at television? Yeah. I was done. I hadn't really I, haven't. Completely comeback, conclusion may be I haven't I had. Come to grips with, but there was very clear the. Handwriting was on the wall to some degree after one Martinsville. Yeah. If you go back to two thousand one. One Martinsville we still have many good races after that. Following year I think we won. The bulbs in two of first four races. We were legitimate throughout the year in the course wanted. Darlington but. Like the stays behind me and And to some degree. WAS After, the injuries of ninety, six, ninety seven, it was about winning a cup raced. Objective changed from what it was ninety five. Without really. confiding in anyone I kind of I had a pretty clear understanding what my capacity was. As race, Cohen Reiner and I was done and I got a call from Jack Roush. These. What are you doing and I said? Way To home depot. That's pretty much. What is? Just. Just. DONE IN A. Drive the truck for year I, said. Okay so what really got me excited about? That was I had one. Other two divisions. One to want to cover a truck race I know. It's probably not bucket list for most drivers, but for me at the time was pretty cool lot of drivers. Attempting to doing it. I you know being able to say. I wanted to ask or South three was satisfying. Route. How big a jump was it for do to start during caliban on ESPN and might I add Gu Your time at ESPN has made you a well respected. Stadium that's that's the highest frailer get. I mean coming from from you coming from both of you. I think I really appreciate it. I think that the that. I give praise like that because. I was true to things. You know the. This is my fifteenth year television and it's also going to be my last. But. I was true to things from the very beginning. I got a call from Jack inkster instance if you like in the time I was bored to tears in I, said the on the next flight. Went up and I loved in what I loved about. It was a challenge. I was no longer treading water I, actually. I bought a farm from Betty Parsons in when Jack Brunner called me. I was literally on my tractor. Mowing one of the fields I. It on. It sounds like you know like Utopia. That's what we're going to retire. On a floor. If you get the chance to guys don't. I. I was so damn bored. So. Live televised. Fiber. I was back in the game. I felt like I had something on the line. It all take some risks. You know and I want to be good at it. And I made the decision at that y'all not marquee name. You know I'm I'm not a former champion. The Winston Cup series. So I have to contribute in a different way. All My television has been predicated on. My experiences. In saying what I absolutely truly believe. Without trying to Arison wanner! Make somebody uncomfortable, and those are the two things. A stood for in. They've served me well and. You know. The thing about television so much fun has been so much fun is et requires such enormous group of people to be successful just like a race team. In. Front Center when you're in front of the camera you still have. Sony people sibling the car. The your day is is determined, not only your performance, but if the guy's gotta hit all five eleven. That's right. Stop. In television is just sort of the entire reflection of of. A racine Jimmy I love that barter. After a couple of years with Fox. You announced earlier this year that you are GonNa be retiring at the end of the year. What went into that decision? I think just the opposite of what I discovered A. Few years ago. Is Vibrant. I just couldn't wait for the next show I was to remedy. I felt that I felt like that Really even today, but it's diminished. And it's diminishing in part because I have been in a race car for a long long time. there are many drivers that have community equation that are are more relevant in that regard. And in the scary thing is is that. I don't feel I love it the way I once did. And I never ever. The twelve years I was at a SPN I never felt like how do this? And even the first year was Fox. It was like you know all right there there. There is a little different way of doing things. It's different application different platform, so that challenged. But I'm fifty four years old and there's a few other things you know like. I'm looking for the next challenge. And that right now. That's that's absent in my life. Now? Could that existing are racing, perhaps but Off a piece I've had two great careers. You know I got. Twenty five years. RACING CARS! In that I've spent fifteen years as a NASCAR analyst onto outstanding networks. So Oma Third on a third career. The compliments those two and Then? Maybe I'll go back to form. Speaking of that third chapter you posted on facebook a week or so ago that you had made an investment in that third chapter of your career. What does come next for Ricky Craven? Well, I only get out over my skis, but What what the anticipating in when I'm hoping. Will help take me back to one I. Don't think I'll ever looney one year round again. But. You don't. D- I'm hard of New England a new new. England is part of my DNA. and. I'm proud of. All the people that supported me when I was in this pursuit of being a big time NASCAR driver. I want to reconnect with a lot of them. And So we'll see. We'll see I've I've got an ambition I have an idea just. improbably middle concept hopefully materializes in the next three months or so. Hello Seen Ball podcast listeners. This is Eric Quinn from Q., where I'm so glad that racing is back. It's nice to see it on TV. And of course it's been nice to continue to be able to listen to the scene ball podcast with Rick and Steven all their guests, and of course they just hit the milestone one hundredth podcast and I'm so proud of what Rick. Steve has been able to do with the scene vault podcast in preserving the history of this great sport. There's a lot of time and effort that goes. Goes into everything that happens that the scene ball, podcasts and accuweather. We are proud to be a part of it. We also know that it takes a Lotta time and effort to take care of places where you work, and we want you to check out queue wear and see what we can do. When it comes to facility maintenance, we are the most powerful most simple to use computerized maintenance management system on the planet, so check us out. ACCUWEATHER CMS DOT com and see what we can do for your facility maintenance team. In helping to keep your campus and your facility up and running now, let's get back to the podcast. Steve the year two thousand and Ricky driving the number fifty Midwest transit car for owners how Hicks and Mike Winters. And they faced an uphill climb. It was rough going there at that team that year they missed the first two races of the year at Daytona and Rockingham then they finish fortieth at Las Vegas. They skip some events, and they have a total of eighteen cues, the course of the season, and their best finish is fifteenth in the fall at Rockingham there was during this time that a lot of fans and media members felt that ricky could not overcome those injury. He sustain and career is on a downward slide, and maybe go in. That's the story. Is he was on a downhill slot? But he caught himself and was able to come back, and he talked about having this tug of war with himself, and for the first time in his life. He's not having fun driving a race car so. What's he going to do? And he actually specifically talked about during those wilderness years after he got hurt through the time that he started in the thirty, two tied car a talked about the fact that he wasn't exactly. A fun person to be around so Steve How did he keep going? What kept him in that race car he had goals as he told us he had set goals for himself. In Winston Cup racing, he had not achieved those goals and he knew that he was going to do. It was probably get out of the Wilderness. Make a change. Look for a change and safe. It could go on from bear. It wasn't about the up. Here's something that kind of got my attention I asked him about safety. Because the year two, thousand, two, thousand and one. Obviously, there was a huge huge huge focus on safety, and I asked him about that and I really kind of thought that I would get a different response. I thought he might say. He advocated for the Hans. He thought he might have added. For the safer barrier, or whatever because of what he had been through following the crash, Texas but Steve Hey said that he was pretty reluctant to speak out about safety for that very same reason because he didn't want to be tagged. As the guy who was advocating for safety. As opposed competition. Because at that time if you talked about safety. There is this perception that you were soft. That's exactly right, Rick. No, no doubt about it. Ricky didn't want to convey that image at all. He didn't want to be considered a candy ass. He didn't WANNA. Have to tie cure saint around. Steve. That was just a sign of those times. A wasn't until about those same times later. The things started to change for obvious reasons. The shift went from. Hey, you're really can't as if you complain about a lack of safety to my God. We've got to do more for safety because we absolutely has gene why we need it Reiki got the ride with cow whales in the year two thousand and one, and it was precisely the opportunity he'd been looking for. He wasn't necessarily fill impression to win from anybody other than himself, and Steve, that had been his goal. All along was to win. A Winston Cup race. That's what he was going after. Absolutely and that's why you whether the through his wilderness years. Ricky got that deal and he was getting some pretty good results. Then the Winston Cup tour hit. Martinsville in the fall as competitive. And all of a sudden stay, he is back on the short tracks in the northeast, running like had run when he was just starting out as a driver, and he took the checkered flag after holding off del Gera-, and just justice furious battle to the chequered flag, and Tom stood steel, he said end Steve Here's another thing that kind of surprised me. He said that Martin's will. Meant as much if not more to him than his Darlington victory. That's because Martinsville was a short track. That's where he came from. He won a lot of races on short tracks. Those were his playgrounds, so to speak and to win. The Cup race on a short track was a was mentally satisfying for that was the mountaintop for Ricky Craven. had spent basically the entire decade of the nineteen nineties, trying to make his way to the top, and later on in that decade nineteen seven. He has that record Texas and he gets knocked off that mountaintop. And he goes down to the very deepest ballots that he had ever experienced. Both are an professionally and then when he gets the ride with cow whales, he starts climbing back up the mountain. And when he gets victory lane. Mike Helton comes by to same Dow. Jerry comes about a same. Jeff Gordon comes by the same, and that must have been just a absolutely shannon moment in his lot. That car up fraternity knew all about ricky credit and his his struggles, so when he won, they made sure the come by and say you did it. We're really proud of you. Stay. We're GONNA talk about Ricky's Darlington Win and our second segment with the issue of the weight, but I will say this. I really enjoyed the call by the guys in the Fox booth of that finish. County. Thanks. Steve A lot of us. Broadcasters get dinged. For trying to create this false sense of drama by and getting overly excited, but in that instance. That was absolutely justified. I believe that that emotion was very real. By a group of people who just simply liked racing, and they were saying just this incredible race to the chequered flag. Well I know of I'd been in the the booth when this is going on. Really what here's from hollering? Back. Out of being incoherent. Not Remember at all the fact that after leaving cow Wells' tame in two thousand and four Ricky Win and drove the full schedule for Jack grouse on what is now the Gander Mountain, RV, and outdoors truck series. Did you like how got Gander Mountain in there for a? Marcus Democracy you listening? I simply did not remember that I'd because because I had always pictured him as a cup driver, but no I did not remember that at all he won a race later in the year at Morton's wool, and the trucks, and that made him one of the very few who have ever won races in Nascar's top three national divisions, but then at the end of the year he left the team, and after making one Busch Series Start for our Mondo fits in two thousand and six. That was. For Ricky's driving career world, it could have ended much differently as you're no writ, but as it was I think ricky went out on top. It was hard for me to recognize the fact that ricky has been on TV. For I think, he said fifteen years now. Yeah, that was a big number to me. He was obviously I on ESPN Dan. He was on Fox, and now he is looking at that third chapter in his career, because he is retiring right to the end of the year from Fox while let me say that as a TV racing analysts ricky with one of the best was very knowledgeable of course, and it was very well spoken and I think the fans will watch them on TV respected his work. Well I think that they recognize the fact that he was well spoken from his work on TV and if they had any doubts, just listen to him on Podcast Cure. I May, he has been by far one of the most thoughtful and introspective drivers that we've ever had on the show, and that's the way he was on tv about that third Schachter when I asked him specifically what he was going to be doing, he talked for a minute or two. But he never really answered my question. So here's bacteria while he's GonNa be doing this good. I think he's going into politics. Hey, talks and talks and talks to never answer questions so yeah, he's going into politics up in Maine. said it and I take it back. and. He won't be ring dogcatcher either. Stay followed Brian Caleb on instagram and twitter at speedway screens and check out his inventory at speedway T S J dot oetzi Dot com this week. Our buddy brian has added Rusty Wallace t shirts. He's also posted a nineteen ninety s Sonoko windbreaker, jacket and stay. This thing is straight out. Of the nineteen nineties. That's all you can say about it. 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Steve, the March Twentieth, two thousand and three issue Winston Cup, saying by that Tom, the paper had underwent a pretty significant style change and the scene on this section was moved to the front and the newspaper. And there were a lot shorter bought size tidbits throughout the paper in sections like hot laps and off the wall and a top ten list. And stay! It was simply and solely due to the advent. Of the Internet, and how immediate news was becoming by that time and I'll be honest with you going through this issue I did not remember that style change. Come that soon, but this was two thousand three. The Internet was. Go anywhere. It was there to stay. By the time the newspaper came out. The race coverage was already typically four days old. And the style change was away for Saint provide coverage. That was fresh and not available anywhere else I'll be honest with you. I'm Berry set in my ways. I'm very old school. And when this chain started coming about, it was strange for me, it was strange for a lot of people. Even the folks on the staff, but we realized that the Internet was here to say Azure. And given that the Internet could provide almost a meat race coverage, which made race coverage in seen obviously very late. We had to find some way. To keep the reader's interest, and not was not going to be race coverage, upfront, first and foremost. They knew all of that, and they were not going to pay much attention to sing with, so we had this shift it, and therefore removed seen on this earth and feature stories and everything upfront and race coverage in the back because race coverage, I was no longer the principal means for people to get their information. Steve this is how hard time, but I had with it I actually don't know if you remember desk, but I actually talked to you about it. As a man. We don't need to be moving this OC second. You kind of have to hit me between the eyes with a two by four to get my attention and your response was. If, you don't like it. Just go on up to the fourth floor. Convince them and by the fourth floor. Your, we're talking. Talking to? Powers that. Be as the world I'm March drive up to the fourth floor, and I sat down with which Shaw and presented my case in. Five minutes later March right back down to the lower. That was it and Steve You? Know what this Oh say. Section stated the Front of the newspaper. Well, in addition to all this changes, we now have a website as well and we're also did some videos that we put on the site of us talking about racing, and and things of that nature, so we had taken a whole you tat over at scene to try to keep up with the Times I up, basically in this issue was a reaction piece to the finish between Ricky and Kurt. And Leonard would say it was very exciting, but I guess I'm still a partial to that race at Daytona with Pearson and petty on top. This is probably number two and of course referred to the nineteen seventy-six Daytona Five. Or they crash coming off turn four and Pearson was of course driving for the wood brothers, so yeah I would say as. I said I think Leonard clearly was partial bear, and for very good reason Jim. Hunter who was the former president of Darlington raceway, who was then a NASCAR vice president? He said that was unbelievable. The amazing thing was the fans for about twenty five minutes didn't leave. It was like they were stunned. And the press box, nobody left a press box either and you know he's up there in the press box or something that I know rumor happening for a long time before that. Body was silent, just riveted that action. Steve Speaking Jim Hunter. There was a story in this section about remers that Darlington possibly bayliner race. Tony Stewart was quoted as saying when I'm watching on TV. And I see an old rice from Darlington I'm able to see all the greats who have run their and one there and crashed out at the joint. There's some deep history at that place and the race fans down. There are some of the most dedicated rice fans in our series that makes it really enjoyable to run well and hopefully to win there but. On the other hand Jim Hunter had been with NASCAR for three years as the vice president of communications and then. Before that had served as president at Darlington for years and years and years before that he presented the other side of the coin, and he said the biggest disappointment in my career was the fact that I could not figure out how to sell tickets to the spring rice. You're at Darlington. We tried everything. I could think of in marketing and promotions in advertising and ticketing. So as good as the rice and was on the right track, GM still had a job to do in selling tickets for the spring rice and the spring race never ever drew as many fans as obviously the southern five hundred did so that pretty much left Donaldson's fate, really up in the air about having to raises and I think Jim Hunter Nuit Steve. There were two cup races at Darlington in two thousand four the year after this, but since then they've had just one. One, racist, southern, five, hundred been moved around a lot, but it's backward along the Labor Day weekend and Darlington. Hit upon a breeding marketing scheme at throwback scheme as you well know where fans can go watch. Race cars painted up as they were in their heyday and see a very good race with that. That's been a Chom Doniger, and they also did a commemorative issue last year. And because of everything, going on with Kobe, not Tan I, don't know that we're GONNA get to this year, but hopefully next year will be back, not written off this year yet, but. We'll just have to say about the commemorative issue, but they did do one last year and it was by Youtube Apple. was. Very popular, another news item discussed schedule. Realignment and This. Suggestions were absolutely all over the board as you might well imagined all yeah. Sterling Marlin and Jamie Spencer wanted to eliminate rogue courses. I don't remember them being real good on of courses, do you? You know maybe they were a little biased in what they were saying, but I would say so. How do you think Watkins Glen? Would forget about. Well. Sterling also basically wanted to run all the races out west in one stretch, and then come back east and stay there. Well there the problem with that as Richard. Petty will tell us well. Richard Petty responded to this suggestion and said that if you want to do that. Teams would be building shops out west, and that was going to increase cost. That much more so. Richard Petty wasn't on board with that. Now not at all Dell earnhardt. Jr. wanted to run the season finale at Daytona. And Jeff Gordon didn't. Running the season ending grace at Daytona is was not a new idea by any stretch. You imagine my word, lot of drivers and fans that promoted that, but of course it's never happened. Yet. Yeah Yeah I carry out. I'd like to say the season finale at Bristol. Yes, Sir Oh. And Steve I had to laugh when this issues top ten list was ten San's. NASCAR is trying to make the most of this year's rainy weather now. How appropriate could that be? We're GONNA have that list again this year. Number ten Nimba stratus declared the official rank allowed mass car I number nine race updates on the eight only on the weather channel. Number. Eight pre ratios now include infield mud, bog battles number seven free car wash coupon with every race ticket. I liked that one. Number six tracks rate name to include the phrase and Waterpark. Number five garage designations, hot and cold change to dry and wet. That was a pregnant. That must've mind. Number, four days of thunder, Sake will entitled days of Thunder Lightning and hail. That was mind. Number three approved models for two thousand and three now include Taurus. Intrepid Monte Carlo, Grand Prix and jet dryers on Pablo. Montoya would like that easy down boy. Number to track drying championships to replace pit crew championships at Rockingham now. That's A. And finally number one drought stricken regions get first dibs on new race dates. You Know Steve. We face it. Every year seems like, but weather seems to have really impacted this year I don't know why, but it's been crazy. Absolutely crazy enough as it is with the new schedule and everything because of the code thing, but this year. Yeah, rains been kind of a problem. Problem, but this top ten list indicates that it's not a new phenomenon for NASCAR at all. As I mentioned in the Intro, there was a huge package on reaction. In Nascar to the invasion of Iraq, the air offensive began on March, not tape two thousand and three, and then the grounded by Asian Star. Day On March Twentieth, which was the day to this issue. And staved the packages stores included one on general reaction and speculation about what kind of impact it might have on the sport. There was another on bedrooms in the garage Greg Martin of Joe Gibbs racing in Darryl Andrews, who was then working for petty, and he had also worked a blade for junior, Johnson and his. Both of them were Vietnam veterans I know Darryl in particular, had seen some pretty heavy combat. According to this story received two two Purple Hearts so this packages stores included their reaction. There was another story on how various programs NASCAR had always been used for recruitment for the military. And then there was another story on NASCAR's support of the military reserves. Another pace on more people in Nascar. Hood served in the military. That was a huge packages stories, and I believe that it covered the issue very very thoroughly where we felt like beheaded it because of the importance of the Iraqi war, and we like to tell people you know what Nascar's role was in this historic event, and that meant a lot of coverage with a lot of people. This is how different the papers format had become. This issue is one hundred and eight pages, so we. We were putting out some copy cure. By that time, but the race lead was on page forty so almost halfway through the paper right Ed to go until you got to the rice coverage right, so ricky said and race lead the last five laps were I'm not sure? It's the most fun I've ever had. In my life. You ride up and down the road and you sit on the couch and you think about these things. This is exactly. What you drama and last few laps Ricky said I think I slid up a little bit and got a piece of him once. I gathered my car up. I think he gave me a shot or he got in my right rear. Then all of a sudden I found him in the front and I thought how in the Hell did that happen? Let me tell you. We may contact from the exit a term for all the way down to the start finish line once we got to the exit. Attorneys for that is when all hell broke loose. That's when we started getting together I. Really don't know what it was like I. Don't know. I! I love this I, don't know if it was a good vanish or not. I'm on. It was a great fit. Was So it was so great that the headline on the cover of steam was one for the ages. Very appropriate. I didn't remember this Kurt Busch qualified six for the rice, but then he had to start from the rear of the field after losing an engine on Saturday, and evidently that was kind of an issue for rashes the time because Jeff Burton fell out of the race. Early on by the time race was over. There is a picture in the photo section of Jeff sitting on the pit box with Jack so he was out early. Yeah, he was a boy, did Kurt ever rally, but then Kurt also developed power steering problems. And then lost it completely with ten laps to go. Yeah, he did A. Day. Oh yeah, imagine what he's going to have to do for the rest of the race without power during I believe you told us exactly area built. He said that the car felt like it weighed about ten thousand. And don't have any doubts that it did. Kurt said my arms are numb. My brain is numb when you're out there. Digging for the laid it kind of camouflage the hurt and I'm sure that does fighting as hard as he was fighting with Ricky. Yeah to be handled in that car like he was to be Manna Hanlin. That car like he was. Yeah, that was a day's work. Put in there. You gotta say that. Kurt Busch ran one hell of a race. He didn't win. Instead if we all know about the different things that has been involved with and the different episodes that he's had with the media, and whatever but. Hey actually went over to victory lane to shake hands with Ricky and congratulated him on the way on, so that was a cool moment and cart said there are a lot of good robberies out there. Ricky Craven and I surely don't have one. We've raised one another and giving each other three or four feet every time. I. Don't know about three or four. Talk. That's cars were welded together coming to ask. But Dave Blaney finished third, which was his best career finish at that point? He later duplicated that at Talladega in two, thousand, seven and two thousand eleven, so his best career finish was third, and he finished third three times once Burlington and twice at Talladega and and. Stave of all the people in the house. You know that Dave Lady was kinda watching that unfold between Kurt and Ricky and his windshield, and he was hoping that they were going to get together, and he was hoping that they were GonNa Span. He was hoping that they won't take each other out your, thank. and. He was hoping to find himself and bicker. Lane after the rice. He said in the SIDEBAR. I. Thought Something Bad might happen and we might look into it. Almost a worded almost tall most. Now Saturdays Busch series race was postponed Bahrain and Man I hate it. I hated it when rises were postponed Bahrain, so that meant that the Busch series race was actually run the day after the Ricky Craven Kurt Busch Finish. And as I said before it turned out to be every Biz exciting, Stacy Compton stayed out on old tyres, and so he was trying to make it to the finish, and he is in the lead, and todd and Jamie were chasing him down, and in the TV commentary was all about whether or not they were going to be able to catch up to stacy, and they did and going through turn to that treacherous turned to with three laps to go. Stacy and todd and Jamie went three wide for the lead very wide turn to Darlington yes, sir. Not a good arrangement I can just hear Harry Hodson. Just go outside. You can make you out. I thought I'd moving. Jamie Dan Chase Todd for a couple of laps, but todd lookback he was gonNA take a fairly comfortable win. Until they went through turns three and four, anti evidently bobbled and coming off, turn four. Jamie got the looks like he just got a rocket ship. All of a sudden and got up to the outside of todd and they may contact Jamie spun across. Todd's knows and split second. It looked like Jamie was going to win the race. Going completely backwards or yeah. so how `bout that bursaries competition yes sir. Jamie spun to the inside of the track. Todd was able to keep his car going straight and he crossed the finish line three tenths of a second ahead of Jamie. And Steve Scott Riggs was right there. He was right there in third place. So happy about them Busch series guys. Great Finish. No doubt about it. There was a time there were none of us. Could event his opinion such thing? Todd said after Jamie's car went across the front of mine, I just held it wide open I knew I was pointed the right way down the right track I held it wide open. Hoping it would get there before he is. Steve this was the coolest part of the whole thing with Ricky and with car and with todd and with Jamie those two races there was no ill-will between the combatants, nor should there have been I mean they didn't deliberate anything to each other. All four were part of great finishes Jamie said after the race tie just got a little loose in the middle of three and four, I hadn't really given. Given up, but I saw him get loose. I committed myself to the top and he pulled to the bottom. I really thought I was going to be able to beat him to the line, but when he got into me, it cut my tire down and I pretty much lost control after that I'm not trying to blame todd. I don't want anybody to think that is just one of them deals. which is the right thing to say because it's absolutely true well? That showed a lot of class on not amy's par and the day before car had showed a lot of class by going to victory lane and shake hands with ricky, so that those were two very coincidences now stave. who was todd's crew chief for this race? I think you're going to tell us. Good Ole Rambo. Tony Labor Roddy who go on to great fame, if not a whole lot of fortune as a substitute co host of the same podcast second-best one you've ever had. Another question for you. Who was a CO owner of that team? That's C. Span Herzog was called her SAAG. Jackson motorist roaches. I. Jackson. Who is the Jackson wasn't Richard and a wedding Leo so I'll try Bo. No Reggie's the Jackson how the other one and Steve. Let me tell you at that time I well at that time. I still do I hated. The New York Yankees Them? Again. Still Rambo promised me an autographed. Jackson, Bat. In exchange for a copy of second to none. I believe it was two copies. Okay I had to give him to copies of second to none. Now asked me, asked me where my Reggie Jackson bad is. Um with hesitate to guess where. I don't know I never. Stopped! Rambo I know you're listening so wall baseball bat. Yes, Sir I. was close by Jackson Played Baseball to. Yes, he did, and he would have been a hall of Famer, if not for a crazy injury that he suffered in the NFL, so Steve. This is the crazy part this win. Put Todd atop the series standings, but at the time that team was unsponsored. That car was playing white with some black striping on it with red numbers. I believe. And that team actually ceased operations that summer after Daytona, and at that time when they ceased operations, todd was fourth in the standings at the time, and he was just forty three points. Thirty three points behind then later Scott Riggs where it's very tough on todd as a tough thing for the team have to foe but. IN NASCAR racing. Money talks at solar into, it. Harm Larry mcreynolds and you're listening to the scene vault podcast. Steve my weekly update. I think it's important that keep everybody up to date on what I'm trying to do for the Marcus Lamont is challenge I now stand at an even or thousand, seven hundred and sixty eight miles that leaves me two hundred and thirty two miles short. Of Five thousand the Rick you're getting there. So that shows you what having a goal can do for some episode. Absolutely. Hey, just ask ricky craven about having a goal. 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Episode 11: You're Not Like Other Girls

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Episode 11: You're Not Like Other Girls

"We Run Loose. Do. Paul from NSA if you're listening to this. I am single. That is you have not heard that voice before. Also. That is Laura or A more now low. We figured you guys were getting sick of our own voices because we were getting sick of our own voices. So we're bringing in a new voice. Hello. It's me you're GONNA want to get a little closer and then read. Some great with microphones you can put. Yeah. Yeah. I'll put it on my lap I really can't with I. Don't know I feel like I'm like phone operator. Operator right now. You know what I mean. He's like, Hey, baby. Hey batboy. Fuck Hey bad. What did YOU HAVE FOR DINNER So we basically asked low. F K Laura. What she wants to talk about on this podcast because we want to open it up to different voices and different experiences other than mine and Abbey's because you can only listen to us for so long. So today we're talking about. I would like to talk about the. The phenomenon unhinged. That is the sentence you're not like other girls. that makes me want to. Heal my skin off and light it on fire. And that's a crazy thing to say to somebody. and. I, get it a lot and here's the thing I am like other girls and other girls are fucking fabulous there eight aim. Right like it's not a compliment to put down. My gender. Like I know a lot of really fabulous people, can you give us a like an example a sharp? Putting down your. Down another gender I. Okay. So I was on a first day at one time. And this man was like or this man voice. A but you can't name the song that's playing right now it was led Zeppelin's immigrant song which I would argue. I would venture to argue. People know that song and I said. Oh It's led Zeppelin's immigrant song. Try again my dude like 'cause I was just like and he was like well. I'm really surprised that you knew that not a lot of. No led Zeppelin. And I think they do and I also think if they don't that's fine. But he was like commodifying the fact that I knew a led Zeppelin Song. And I didn't like that. I also say things like I like the COEN brothers. I like weird gritty movies that doesn't make me strange even though I just call them weird but. I don't know I get that a lot guys like I've never met a girl who loves the movie no country for old men. Okay. Well, that's a really weird way to tell me that you've never talked to a woman before for you. Like I don't know I think that's a weird like. Like veil a compliment like I like oh I'm I'm telling you your unique but you're not. You're kind of making me feel like I'm like this this rare alien who Likes. Quirky things. It's like an insinuating something else. All right. Like if you think that that's quirky that I like a movie that one fucking Oscar. Sorry I keep swearing. It literally was the Oscar winner Javier Bardem won best actor and the whole movie won the whole ass award, the whole, the whole Oscar, and if you're like Oh, you know that movie. That's so interesting. So Quirky I don't think I'm the Corradi of with. Yeah I, mean, the bars have really fucking. Well, if you think that's quirky also I don't think I'm I think you're really fucking boring amen. I think I would venture to guess the lot of women if not all have David. WHO's boring? Yes, just like the most average. Can in the world yes. Yes. Yes. We love a project. Oh, I'm funds like my son's GONNA run up. Against you got her will be exactly what you like kind of view it as unit like I'm fun. He's mellow and together. We will be mellow. Yes. Bad. New Band. Name. Michael. And tonight. Was Born Familiar. Oh. Gee I don't ever be. Good thinking about it. Might be the current guy but I don't think he's like boring boring. I don't think the I think people can be a lot of worse things than boring but it's like I've also been like guys have been like, oh you're earrings are so cool and quirky you're so creative and I'm like. They're just a weird. SHAPE. At Sea right like. They're literally from. Like I am the basic the most basic of bitches about them from TJ. Yeah. And these like you could just like watch their brainwork of being like she has two tattoos and she wears funky earrings and sometimes she watercolors. Oh my God, I've done it. Awesome us. Yes. Yes, and I don't. I don't like the Quirky box. So what box would you WANNA be in? It can't put me in a box. Well I don't know. Be In a box, but I guess how you WanNa like sprinkle. Everywhere we go. Like like as ever iconic Paris Hilton one said. Leave a little glitter. Ever you. in case you didn't know Amazon prime has a silver bullet the simple life on it and I couldn't get past second episode in twenty. Twenty because you know there's a different time back then. But it still salt gold. So I'd highly recommend if you want to venture into Nicole Richie and Harrison's life then is that the show where they only wear overalls yeah. Were they go to a farm in? Kansas or Missouri Yeah. was really keeping their finger on the pulse of the heart of the country. So good. There in the box of farm. Yes. Farm Bureau TM. But like I don't want to be. I mean I don't know about you. Like. I do not like do not enjoy the outdoors. But like. It's so that about you gotta hate mosquitoes. When once the sun starts going down by mosquitoes is my kink. Sorry. That's not true. I don't know but like it doesn't mean I, don't want to be put into the box I. don't like the doors like, yeah I would love your doors like I will try it for you. If you deserve it. If you deserve like it'd be treatment she did camping. I did it was a lucky guy I mean me. It was you woke up in a pedal. Was it rained all night It was bad. That's why I got matches before got. We spent more time at Walmart we stayed in Walmart that is camping if you think about it was. Fun It was fun. But like I also going to Emma city girl like I like there. There are different things that I would like to be a part of that I don't just want to be in one box if you're gonNA put me in a box better be a really fucking big box like a cube. With allowed dimensions, a lot of dimensions. So maybe a box wasn't the right term but like a cue when you're talking to a guy, how do you wish he approached like anything your earrings, your tattoos like how you're coming across interested in like movies and books like, Yeah. What's the best way to approach if you were a guy? I think. Staying away from sentences like. I've never met a girl like. It kind of freaks me out if I'm the first woman that you've met. WHO LIKES Who has a personality who likes? I don't know I just think that that's kind of bizarre and then also like And I'm not doing the like. I'm a cool girl thing because that drives me up the walls. Well, here's the thing I don't like football. I don't give a shit about it. I'm never going to give a shit about it. I still love myself and I think like when you're like. Hey. I. Don't like football and guys like L. You don't like sports. You're immediately in this box just like when I say I, like no country for old men I'm immediately this like. She's a cool girl with tattoos and she I don't know like you can. I can watch their brain work. Yeah. While they're thinking that. And for some reason, that's like Edgy and fun and I'm like I am so boring. I am the least edgy person in the world I'm scared of everything. Everything you like yeah, it's almost. Cynical. To think that I also wonder like how many? Times assembled two other girls like. Yeah like. I don't think women find that. I okay. I am not a spokesperson for women, but I don't take that as a compliment when people are like you're not like other girls. You like what's wrong with me? What's wrong with me? What's wrong with other girls? Yeah. Like it's okay to be like other girls because other girls are great right and so am I and. I don't know and I don't find myself using that language with guys. Yes. That is a really really good point I don't know. I don't think I've ever said that to a guy like you're not like any of the guys of ever met. Like. France. Yeah. Different in my head is like deviant. which like? You can feel differently. About someone. Make them flagrant. You could be like, oh, I, really like those movies too. Like, they're just a different ways to approach. It are like what got you into those movies are your tattoos so many other ways like learn about a person absolutely. Yeah I think it's really like incomplete way to view somebody as like an I'm guilty of it too like I. I've looked at a guy before him and like always a fist like a fish picture and is goddamn hinge profile like I'm still going to acts that shit yeah, I am hunt. Fish camp. Yes. Gander Mountain. Can you tell us a little bit about your online dating experience I'd love to. Okay. So a little bit about my. Online dating background. Yes. Phil I wasn't a long long relationship up until. Like a year ago from No. So like what is it only a year ago? Yeah. but I had never been on any kind of dating APP up until. Bless you hurt Not long ago. So this is kind of like my first four. It is my first foray into online dating. It has been. Illuminating. The ones that I've tried are bumble and hinge. Also please welcome to the stage Abbey's hiccup. He's trying real hard. So I tried hinge and bumble bumble makes me unhappy. Okay. Fumbles dumb for that. Tell me why. So many people love it and I'm so happy for them. Genuinely. Actually no don met no one missing father to me on Tumblr and here's the thing is I'm fine. You are fun. Okay I will say though. She went on my bumble and Sawday no, you got immediate response. And he let's see what he recently said was about being a guitarist what you're good at like you're good at these things make no mistake. I can't play anything I just like music and so I started talking about music with this man from under the guise of Abbey's bumble account yes. Oh, I can't keep this conversation going ruined her life depended on it. So we're going to let her keep it going but should we read it? We can read it yet that allowed. So the opening opening line was from low. Yes. So in his profile, I was looking at it and he has ample photos of himself with a guitar. and I panicked and just wrote who's your favorite guitarist and then parentheses other than yourself of course. And immediately wanted to run as hard as I could into a wall at full speed, and then he said in a millisecond Haha excellent question. I'm allowed to do this. Yeah. Okay. lot of inspiration but I gotta say it's John Fashanu. Of the Red Hot Chili Peppers disclaimer I'm not a huge red hot chili peppers person but. Whatever I said Okay I'm pretty partial to mark for. Your street girl. And he said, really that's pretty impressive Great Guitar Player. And I said, I, think so too I was raised on Romeo Juliet? Just personal favorite is that a it does all it's a Cy Yup and then I said the killers have a pretty decent cover of to. He just said very interesting ha ha I can get down with the killers for sure and now I'm GonNa tell him truth about myself. Even though it's you. Because the killers was my first concert and I'm very proud of that. So it was your first concert to now. I. Love Darren. Knowles this may have to be our new game. There are no rules which we never condone pretending to be on donald cats always yourself don't catfish. Yes. All that jazz however, this is kind of fun and were also. Women have we not been thrown Right. Like this is for I, don't know if you play games with us. We might thrown back at you if you can let me. Buy You dinner and do other things. For you and then break up with me the next day. I'm GonNa do this to you, Daniel. Yeah. This is four Mrs I'm misplayed Sanyo not a real name. nope Ono Daniels not real daniels not real. Daniela's Matt Real not real real anyway. So I'm going to respond to. This man that I've decided is called Daniel tell him that young was my first concert and he's GonNa be very. Very impressed and he's probably going to tell me that his first concert was clay aiken or. Without her American Idol I. You're Carrie Underwood at all MAIKA. We will read him for filth because we do. What is it Kellyanne? Right? No Ruben know what was the first the guy with the hair? Yeah. Early her what was his name? It was a name. Justin Justin. Justin. His highlights his highlights were unmatched Kelly and Justin. You know who hasn't forgotten about. Klay. Again you. Daniel Clay, can I think he loves himself so much probably. So okay. So you don't like bumble you propeller hand. Yes. Tender, I've never had tender so we found joy in tender. I'm as I mentioned I'm scared of everything. I think tinder I, imagine it like me standing in an empty hallway and being yelled at by every angle. Nice tits like that's what I'm imagining. But also that's my reality running around like lake of the isles anytime ever true because being a woman fucking hell you know I'll say. I have big BOOBS. I don't flaunt them on my profile I, don't care if you're naked on your profile don't say. Whatever you can't really see them but like I have not experienced. Okay. Anything like. Tinder since we re upped what in like April when we were bored March? Yeah I. Mean I've been on it recently, I, it's you definitely get some one off. Weirdos I have good wine in good hands. On the guy, the neurosurgeon guy who went inside messaging me, he does have girl. Friends. He found love There is confirmation on that. One of our loyal followers has confirmed this and it's making me feel a lot of things about myself. But mostly, just happy we're happy for him. Are We We are team. adorable. I have a actual album on my phone that says, what's called Howard dating APPs free, and I have screen shot at a series of. Please this is standing. Yeah. This comes right in line with our question. Really excited. I'm really excited to read this to you this man responded in all caps. A Oh Laura. Wait what the fuck, your total babe how did we match? I look like a big ASS motherfucker. Fix Potato. Are. We talking like fully dressed with the sour cream and chives. Megan. Naked. Potato I. Think he was going like parboiled. I said agreement minute microwave. Out. Quick. Dry As hell but he's still not cooked. Like the duality on this guy, and I just said I'm lulling. Potatoes and then he was weird and was like, what's your snapchat I wanNA hang out with USS my shift is over and I was like kind of shift eager guys. Not. Dating APPS, but you can text me here's my number, right? It's funny that you say that you liked. That you said you like potatoes because okay. So fun fact the three of us all use to work at the same place. One segment of business that Catherine I worked was agriculture and. One. Thing was potatoes in. So I always said that the only kind of man I would ever be able to get was a spud like a full on potato so we would have potato of the month of the month and you started with. Yes, because what a potatoes you'd eat. Yes, I would put up on we wouldn't eat them. We would put them up on the make potatoes. No. There was there is we should have a group of people at that place who worked on that same segment of business who had a lick potato day. No I'm it's been after I love it must have been because I. Remember one time I walked in and it was like French fries city. Oh No, and I could not eat any of them because I did not work on that segment of business. I just really liked that you called it a segment. We just had like the spot of the month because they would look like a legitimate potato or tow tell these on yet put them on the wall. In My thing potato put a face on it and that's what they look like. So like that was the type of man that I would always be like yet. That's what I'M GONNA end up with because degrading I know won't be Solo. Now you could end up with I could I could. Here's another one that I screen shotted. This man also like the the way that men pair the prompts unhinged with photos and they never make sense. So he'll be like cotton the act it's like him washing his hands. You're like, stop it or my mother's free my grandma's yeah, it's like. Not. Okay yeah like a my favorite is What is it? Oh my gosh. Not Caught in the act, but it's like Oh name this photo bomber and it's just them alone. It's like that's not what that means I don't know it. It drives me see you photo bombed your bonker So. This man. It was literally helped me identify this photo bomber. And this his caption are we ready ladies strap in? I'm ready. I. Hate. Pictures. Halloween and weddings is it Everyone takes two thousand today they've become vapid and overdone people don't have personality anymore. Like. Hey. I'm going to insert a fake name Glenn who the fog. You who hurt you, Glenn who hurt you that you think? It's like the tick Tock Tongue did somebody did somebody break heart also Jason I do take issue with that song that took doctrine because like fuck it of course went broke my heart like my trauma comas from that like the not even romantic partner like the world broke my heart. So yeah, I am messed up I really hate it when they're like they're looking cute in front of the camera and then they're like, did somebody break your heart? Obviously. Charissa someone did arresting Glen Yeah I don't know where these names are coming from just feeling really inventive after an all spirits but. Yet that seems just like a lot to unpack a first impression I know and it was almost like an influence, her no I know, and you can tell these clearly very hurt Glenn is. Like reeling from the especially in covert I'm like my photo, my camera roll since March I haven't had a single picture at post as an update of young on my profiles. Actually When I. got my hair done. So take. Pictures at day. Whoever gloves looking at the I wendell if my dog doesn't move from physicians so I'm trying to find another good one, but you know at that might just kind of cap it those are my screen shots ooh, I do have a good one Abby I believe that you've seen this before probably, but a man I made a guy laugh via hinge because he was like ha ha ha ha ha. So it led me to believe that I make made him laugh and he said, get you know and there's those extra two AH. The highs like. Deadpan what about the he he the? Runaway I don't like he he's he can't is the Queen of he? No I like when do it? Yes. But like what if a man does it? I'm like Oh. please. Yeah, the Michael Jackson. He's like to knowing. Hell to the No. Find. Oh. Yes. Okay. So this man I made him laugh and then he said, wow, and then a different message. Pretty Awesome. It's rare for a girl to make me laugh. I don't know what it is and then he went into detail about like he's like young people out here are so sensitive like and I'm from the East Coast so like My kind of humor. It appears girls out here. Only raise I. Didn't know humor was regional. Brad another name that I've made up. And you love good. Brad and you know what? Actually Brad's of the world don't even deserve that we're gonNA call this man. Li. Li Solely I responded to Lee, but you on the we can't usually Ri-. Neighbor's name. Adult. So, Lee and you'd be very threatened by name by like Lee. So that's where we're going to give it to him. He said. That's what he said and then I responded and I said wow well, that sounds a little bit. misogynistic and he responded okay. Yeah on that. and. I said spoken like somebody who lives in the comments section of any youtube video ever of a female comedian. And just like lives there and says like this has why women aren't funny and they should stay in the kitchen and he was like, no, I don't actually think that and then Lo and behold he a racist man who does not believe in pant the pandemic increase. Quote Unquote does not participate in Kobe and I said Oh what a privilege that would be by Lee See you never like Cova doesn't care if you're participating or not. It's. Yeah. No, he's like I think the whole thing is overblown like, okay. Lee Two of my family members have died. You still think it's overblown and he said were they older And I said you know what they were and you're totally right their lives were less valuable than yours. So Totally. Resolved. Let's get drinks like what the fuck yet like actually. Yeah. Is Done. Yikes. Yeah. So I like hinge in the sense that it's very entertaining. I have zero faith in hinge. I'm very confident that I will not meet anyone that I'm interested in in from hinge I met one promising person though I will say that yeah yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah I'm scaling you. Dated on hinge. That's good. The last one ended Shittu Lee this one is weird. The words that you're using to describe this friendship so we've learned so far that he's not fun and he's weird to hell. No, you find. He's not you hold him your friend earlier and I was like, okay what is the nature of this friendship? Yeah exactly. Complicated. Yeah, you know when the facebook status would be. It's. Like this little rush but I. Don't know if it's a thing. I can't relate because no one talked to me but yes, I understand what you're saying I got S on dates me to young girl is fine. Yes. No, and you guys a thing is one of the guys did that to me and literal eighth grade liked me on hinge recently and I screen shot at Ed so hard. And I would like to wallpaper my whole home with it. You should have accepted him like remember when he did. That's dead. Undo. Oh I did accept it and I said something because I wanted to like get the because like I know he's not gonna I know he doesn't know it's me because I I look very different than I did in high school. There was like a whole like ugly thing that happened in college. No the glow up the GLOB was unreal and he does not know it's me and I wanted to like make him like me and be like. Sup Psych. Peter the I was just ready to smash his heart and then he did not respond to me. So who's Harder Smash Times to? Just. Kidding I don't care few of the last words. All matters it was the first and last word. I never had a fake date but I, did get the last prom invite of my friend group and it was out of pity. Oh, I got I. got that. Because as my birthday. Also prompt sucks. I Dunno promise Kinda Fun at a birthday cake in the end and it was your birthday wasn't your birthday and it was just prom. Would you feel the same way? overrated. overrated I'm sorry. Dear Alisson. And I'm sorry if you're missing your prom but you're not missing a lot like seriously Italy excuse for everyone to have sex. And like. The first SAMSA don't. moral stories like nothing's good. Don't grow up also motivational speakers like just. So just do Dm us if you want our info. Really excited to give it to you I mean, what can we say we're not like other girls. Not Out A. Couple of Quirky bitches sitting on a couch a little bit tipsy. Sly some of us, more than others. Campaign it's money. You can't let it go waste. If you are a human being. Talking to another human being and he wanted to wish them a compliment because of wow you think they're so unique and great new really like the way that they think that's a lovely thing to think about somebody but. Before. You pay that complement think about. Am I putting down other people to try to make someone else feel good because that might not feel good to hear. So just be intentional with your words. And try not to like put somebody in a bucket or a boxer accuser any kind of receptacle. Don't put anyone. In Iraq, you can give people compliments. That's great. That's wonderful. Be Intentional with your words. So you're making sure that you're not putting anybody in a weird box they didn't ask to be in. and Dave heart him getting out of yes. Just like really really high walls like no, no ladders you stuck in it your second democracy stuck in a box. It's like a Bane Batman. Situation. Quirky like Batman. Batman Yeah not only link other girls. We'll also have an open mind because once you had that closed mine and you shut people out off like into that box, then there's no chance of them getting out right? Like people are really incredibly complex. have to mention. They've layers unexcusable. Thank you for being I guess Oh. I guest only. Get, and we hope this brings you to fame. It's been an honor.

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053 - Zito Has A Prince Albert?!

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053 - Zito Has A Prince Albert?!

"Got! into the paint drawer. Go ahead. I was walking ready. What were you ready for I was ready to get GEIC. You think I was fucking ready for. I have to be ready every time. Most of the Times already bad and most of the times we'll. See. Perhaps. Leading me into it. Own! Deck, Tech. Tatneft. Fastball Deck, Tech, Tech Tech Ten. Are. Round of applause he. On. Copy Short, but I can't tell. It's. Good afternoon morning and welcome to the pod. I am Tony Digs joined by Schmidt, Boston Connor Nick Maroteaux Cubans Eat Evan Fox in Pat McAfee May stop in at some point. Pretty sure bill. McCullough's will stop it at some point. To give Making news bone to pick with bill. O. ON BILL mccollum after being on his Goddamn. Oh! I four. Months. In office today and he's got on. A Popeye's chicken sailing. What's also had one last night, so bill just apparently isn't a vegetarian anymore, don't you? Dare fucking act like this is on president. Jerry for three more is. We've talked about in the office. I'm thinking about down to like seventy five percent I. AM trying to ratio this L. Like have to go out to E. Eighty percent meet. Office chicken sandwich anyone's. Having one last night, you also I believe got a wing meal and chicken tender meal old. Washed down with a corn dog. All My. Mind had a KFC doubled down yesterday. What you told me. I might have fallen into a little bit of luck. Here Popeye's in order to couple chicken sandwiches and then in their disorganization. They brought me out to tender feel. They won't take it back once. They hand it to you. What is soon as it gets into your hand out of me, so I gotTa send her meal. Though like all right, keep it. Put it over the past your. They brought me out a wing meal. I still isn't my food. They said keep it then. They brought me on my. So I had. Bet of a night. WOW, bill! Is that the greatest Dr Experience of all? It might be yeah. Do you think? Knew that you hadn't had meet for three months. Saw Clinton. My is soon as I got up to pay for that meal. That was your mouth watering before you ate. That still is watering thinking about it. We're GONNA. Be Able to go back to water, so I wish to a family that deserved. It would've got this high Falutin. Has it hasn't eaten meat and gets fuck in hundred dollars worth of Free Popeye's fair I did feel bad, because the car in front of me was on its last leg of a mini van. I think there might have been thirteen kids. So both of those those two meals for that one family and you took probably Jesus so bill does say. You don't have for our meat. Does taste a little bit better whenever you've been deprived. Yeah, of course deprived. You weren't deprived you. deprive yourself. I'm not sure and prior there was one hundred percent. A hundred. Oh Bill Bill Bill do not act like you were pushed into a Vegan goerner. My everyday duties take chicken patties or Guys love these dirty burgers also Turkey burgers not. Fuck off because. Think that it almost a little bit. I mean look. Looking for. A trucker hat fuck mustaches. I love these liquid death hats in liquid. Go get some right now. That's not the camera. That's which one is. Right now. In nailed it. Look it was looking at the reflection. I can see the. Background of the TV. I do. Yourself! I get a little bit of an advantage. Yes, this is a great spot lucked out. He's such a fucking bomb, but you. Good Kid. You've older, death or something right? In all seriousness bill, it's great to have you. Back. So, were you vegetarian for the rest today or We'll see where the night goes. My girlfriend also happened to non a couple wings last night's. Sleep brain. House tubes is complete. Reason. During the fridge right now, bone or bone up. Very much Bonin. Zach the ligaments off that. You. I was GONNA. Say Dessert was bonus. s good good. Folder death let love that one. What the fuck is going on in this picture? This is in Chicago. Chicago I don't think so. I've never seen those bags anywhere. What the hell so is this like a like a one big? Table Party that they decide I? Think this is some sort of Chicago Quarantine. Thing where if you you eat underneath these trash bags? You're good to go I. Asked you about this yesterday. He told me. Lose, weight. Was Ridge by believe face four so. For those of you just listening to the program. By the way full clips seen on Youtube on Saturdays it's a quid fucking email bill bought it. That's where you could find them for those use listening. It's a group of human beings, sitting at a table outside of a restaurant, and they are underneath the clear Poncho type tarps. It looks like they're gallagher. Show sitting Bro. Do and It's just disappointing for your city. Really is zero. I'm trying to figure out. Oh, it is Chicago What did you figure out? A role home entertainment. In the background there. Yeah I mean. I got. A few we've been out guys we've been out. We've eaten at normal tables. Yeah, we're still living. We are still living my my big right. Up to here they're outside. I mean if you're inside like I, could kind of understand because we did find out today. That covid nineteen? A report came out covid nineteen thirty four minutes in the summer Sun Bingo, and then we also pointed out that it is very hot. Arizona and Florida which and they have different climates so. We, don't know for sure, but but. With a grain of salt. But potentially Kobe dies thirty four minutes in the sun, and that's that's report I'm GonNa Choose to believe absolutely we'll see I'm offered for doing it. You know and being safe or whatever, but if that's what you have to go. Never go to a bargain. Out Yeah, I promise you. It's not because I was in a real life. Bargain this weekend. It is not what you have to do. Different governments in different places. Chicago's away, city Chicago more woke. Often apparently. There's only one to. Should we be looking at this? Thinking more people might want now this. Equivalence of the bird with the towel over your head from. Good Skin. Show! Is that I think it succession wasn't. In the the bird is such a rare delicacy that yes, you eat it with the towel. Like is like you don't want people to see you eating it. It was like. Eat Wings right there. Just so unattractive food the. Also Phase In that. Bedsheet in the wings eats thorough the sheet over your head. Tony I'm. World you live in, but I for sure as hell, do not sleep with the top sheet and I'm definitely not taking my fitted sheet up to the fucking. Sheet No. Of, course not. Totally kidding? You. Don't. What do you do with it? Well, what? It's little little hotter, you put that. There's no situation where. And actually makes a lot hotter than. There's just no situation where it's ever. It ever worked. Actually I've always used my top. She as a backup fitted sheet, so if fitted sheets. fucking more. it does it does do you guys have different comforters for different seasons? no. I. Don't but I think rich people. Rich people do. But I thought people who've as although in our basement at our old house here. I had to have two. I wouldn't hate on I have like a micro comforter where it's very light. Yeah thin. Using all yours thing it could be. It doesn't matter whether it's July one hundred and seven outside, or it is negative to in February outside the temperature of my house is still the same degrees true. Yeah, and I also. If it's too hot, you always just you know. Throw that leg out. Open it up. To drop things twelve to thirteen degrees. But no I'll never have a sheet bucket. Top? She's a hotel move and that's about it. It's the worst thing of all time it is in the first hotel is to. Out. There's more than what if there's a top sheet, and then you're comforter. I don't in things. Get discombobulated and I don't know which I'm under, and if I come back at him, I don't know if I'm under. Both of them are one of them. It's just it's a whole situation we do this. What do you mean who likes? Stop Sheets? Who Don't know job she? Girls guys a lot of I? Think a lot of girls like top sheet. Just, a Straw poll about four out of five people don't like the top sheet. What kind of people just just in general twenty percent of people about twenty percent of people prefer the top, she yeah. Eighty percent prefer seemed to be like larger people. Seconds take on the show. Jesus. next. In the folder of Death Papa somebody's screen of Google. And the Google search was do babies have bones? Turns out. Babies have more bones and adults and I know that attack me because I always say that babies don't have bones. In corner called a three year old puddle, the dance fair enough though that's a fair point. Pantley adult has two hundred six zero. Newborn baby has nearly three hundred bones in their body for the bones. which is exactly what I'm talking about why my statement makes even more sense now like. Babies you could toss around. Throw around because they got all these spare. Bones just turned to mush. Also have so much hgh in their bodies that no matter what they're going to come out ahead. These evaporate fucking boats. I'm certainly not going to advocate for throwing. Around all I wasn't either but. Doesn't make a lot of points. I'd be like. Dupe see falls down the stairs. Stay assholes all. These Days. And that's why you're not supposed to like. Push too hard on a baby's head because it doesn't have any bones, and you'll dent it though he's GonNa be one of those guys years down the road, whereas wife ends up, getting brutally murdered or something. Yeah, sure not to. Turn. Sounds fucking. Kids excuse elephant man because he's. Basically Nestle, what have learned from this? IS THAT BABIES? Bone is based kind of POP CAM IF There's GonNa be a cup holder on the top of your. got a beer on your babies like literally just like a skinny little white claw like marker. CPR which check that don't don't do that because CPR you don't blow in the mouth anymore. Oh yeah, that's true, but if you were to blow in its mouth, the and ahead will pop right back up. Louis. Maybe have a white clawed. Nor deny that I assume it's more like Plato. You just got to push in another part. Just ask. You put like a bowl on top of your kids. Head just to make sure that your kid is like a perfect head on. Not just don't drop them or stuff like that. You could do that though you could just mold your baby's skull imagine that. Could. Give seven normal. Pay or I'll wait those decisions. That's my kid's fair enough. What would you mold? Your babies added to I. Don't know I'm just thinking. Strategically, rectangle, what can I do to make his head more? Yeah rectangle maybe is where. His or hers. I wouldn't want to. His head a square and you're not gonNA mold a girl's head. I WanNa do that to her like I would fuck with my son. Was My daughter. Mean she's she's your. Angel Yeah it's. Different completely different person. Hold is. Exactly, you're so it'll be Frankenstein. That's what you're making over there, maybe maybe. Just? A good idea actually. Every guy wants longer in bed. But counting backwards for one hundred or singing Mary had a little lamb. It doesn't always work. The folks with an online men's health company. The game with Roman swipes the secret to longer better set. Roman swipes are convenient over the counter wipes clinically proven to help you us. Longer in the packaging is small enough to fit in your back pocket. It's tiny. They're effective. Doctor approved easy to use and fast acting sounds too good to be true, right? US well swipes are the real deal. Studies have shown up to three hundred forty percent. 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Subpoenas Tattoo Alan first names Al. What did you just say? Burt Frankenstein? Sign the Prince Albert. Zeal Prince Al.. None of us knew because he's been CONAN Albert Francis. Drake sinus hearing. None of us. We haven't even questioned. If, one of us. One of us in this office had A. Baby. Also. Is APN start to. What do you mean? It's Larry new? Tattoo. I've never thought. Brantley did. Apparently did well. Everything piercings tattoos, because it's always a tattoo piercing shop. Good point that's. Kind of fucked up for you, Saturday? Next. Oh Z., these are for you. I actually had one of these. these are led smart motion Sensor Toilet seat nights. What are you laughing at? That's a great invention. Whoever did that is absolutely? As you walk in the bathroom, and it detects some movement lights up the toilet, and it's like a nice light, so it's not like the bright light where it wakes you up. It's the soft as the president might make out now. What what do you make a sound? Maybe maybe I wanted to awarding. That'd be cool. More than like A. Like I'm more picturing when the light comes right here, right? Doors of having opening exactly this this. I mean I don't think it has to be that low I. Don't want to scare anybody Jesus. Take you fucking. Me Right now. would be like something nice to say that I did own one of these, but maintenance always chasing the. Wants the wants. Battery ran out one time that was that was about all she roads. Smart Sensor is too smart and it just it senses. Everything always turns on. We don't want. Be Fish around in the toilet bowl too much to get this thing in and out now. Interested Toddler toilet bowls are made to be touched. He goes. What do you know prompt fashion tour? Whatsoever. I, wouldn't so you just shake your head? I'm just saying. Him Water it's not like. The toilet bowls not pollino. The water might be yeah. We'll clean the toilet bowl. How often you? Credibility you've never clean. Side on the show. Is something more disgusting than the week I'm not saying anything right now. I'm just saying like I think the. Floor. Wall of my. He just wanted. Has. He ever cleaned toilet bowl. I have cleaned the toilet bowl. I, I've never seen about. Number in there when he's in there, so it makes sense. But. Where we draw our bathrooms, no, no! This is the first place that you've ever had your own bathrooms. Yeah, so what about in the old EOB? I cleaned the old postal once it was fucking absurd. Electric. While Juneau's like Yeah I. Don't think anybody else would touch toilet bowl ever again you. No didn't. Have Club You don't need gloves. If you have that long rush, yeah, exactly did you risk the Prussia after Oh, yeah? I left it outside a week. Oh, do that see I just wrench in the toilet water. No no I left it outside. There's a it was A. Pretty deep clean it was. A good time now you know once you have. A cleaner toilet, keeping it clean is so much easier. Problem the toilet bowl. So you, drop your phone. They're your hands going right in. My phone type were couple of times before. Real, quick right away. Five plot right out of there. Don't touch and toilet bowl brush I'm talking about this thing you get in there with your hands, and like move it around, so you would have had to use gloves or just be skillset nursing with. poop underneath your fingernails. Yeah I mean I'm not. I'm not sure. Where what what? What are your fucking toilets look like? Ours looks like Okay No. fucking scrubber outside like a week and a half. That will for sure, but I mean we're out. People were the moment only lived there for months. I assume it's pretty good to great time. It's awesome all right. so this is trending actually. Jake Day. Do, but this one actually is actually has. Its some reputable I mean their actual real places sonic. This is a map of places that people enjoyed most during coronavirus fast food for states. And it's majority. McDonald's Wendy's. TACO bell. I think that's basically and then Popeye's Louisiana and then culverts in South Dakota. I think that's an Wisconsin in Wisconsin. So I think I trust. Wall there they just use those only in and out. There's no because they were the most popular state. Told me people in California like McDonald's over in and out, yes. What do you? He's not sure. I ever met is always driving off. How out there like talking about McDonalds? And I like. Places more than other places, but that doesn't mean that I. don't go to a place more off sonic. You cut the budget here while he's. Very upset when he's wrong. Well, no, it's. Well I. mean all my boys I mean. Let's just think about this I hear. How can you order in and out on the delivery? No idea. No, no idea I. I would assume we were in California. Yes, because I would also assume there's no delivery fee for McDonald's, but there probably is a delivery fee for in and out, because it's a higher quality, so boys although I think you're both right here. Okay, 'cause, if it and out is the most, which you probably true McDonald's the most affordable, so people are. Are Worried about how much money they're spending weather order food, so they have to go with the cheaper option I preface with This is not restaurants that they like the most restaurants that they frequented the most absolutely in and out is the God some people say it's the best over the entire makes sense because there are a shitload of fat stooges in America. This is kind of the murderer's row those restaurants. Ours was chick-fil-a which I respect. Yeah, interesting, how a chain with only six days can thrive. I was that much Sauna Cup there. Yeah me, too. Never Been. Like I'm not GonNa hit on them, but just the location wise I don't feel like they're out about I think it's more, it's not. It's definitely because we only have one grown up around us, and that was much later in life I don't even know if it's an east coast thing now. Thanks for closing down like at a premium. Yeah, we. that. Part of it well as probably. The douche bags in the commercial could have no. I, mean like those. dated. Two thousand three and go. What the? Second Wind and They finally got around replacing them. What this year they've been replaced. Yeah, there's a family guy is three daughters in there. They got the whole southern Twang going and there's another. New? I, o I just want to put this other because I'm excited even so last chance US coming back very excited, and it's from a college I, believe in Oakland, California. And I believe that is where coach J. B. Live. I don't know. Any. Is there any chance that he. He makes. Is it even worth watching if he's not in it? Yes, 'cause it was. It was good with What's his name before coach? But from the trailer I saw? This guy is not like coached, jv or buddy Stevens. Yeah, Buddy also was A. Fucking, fuse, Kinda. Need A to be able to push the the series, but I like just learning about the players like the players are cool. Real football that is true, but the show is a thousand times better if you have. WHO HAVE A? fucking? Pick! A Guy, saying that every ten minutes is dead I needed. Signed Coach J. B. to like twenty five season long deal for slapstick you. It's just gonNA. Be Fallen him around trying to get a new team. Really now. fucking electric. Slab Dick you really. I. Is. So believable. You? Watch fucking guy. We love to watch twenty five years ago shaped. Him. died. At the end of your twenty five, he's scheduled. To. Getting Sonic endorsements and this. This is the last year for football. There are moving to basketball. On that I like that. I mean. You have to isolate it to just basketball. Maybe I bet the rape bill except for season, but also I think they're the basketball schools interest me much more really. Yeah, just like how the other prep schools work an like so many kids from overseas to you think. A lot of US Juku. The ones in New Hampshire like Tilton in Brewster Yuck. Yeah, but those aren't. That's a high school. Juku basketball in the mid west last chance. You not I have a bunch of money, so I'm going to prep school is. Going to expire the real ones that actually have the guys that people care about unfortunately. Have you seen the show? To be honest. I didn't think about the last chance you park Ridge for over to the basketball. I thought they were going to kind of pivot to like okay. Let's go to the first chance. The basketball kids are caviar DJ. That's a good point. Like the high level. You guys like the prep school kids. Thank you bill. Raking so many damn rules qb one sore true there you go, which I did not find as as entertaining, so maybe they make a point guard one PG one yeah. Good. Idea Tony. Thank you. Thank you? I'll tell you what. 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It's a good show to have the backup because all they're doing is saving lives all the time and there's not there's storyline, but not a huge door. I mean the office is like the pre. Show. Family guy also. Tiny parks and REC. Any of those sick on really. DUDE IN THE LAVA One as well all you right now. I. Knew it was in the and folder you motherfucker. Interference I heard them talking about this a small. On this train. That's why I threw. Currently watching a video of a preview of in the lava. Captions Obstacle Course is colossal it is not. This. Obstacle courses. Brundtland landings because the. With the most points wins the. Dollar should the people. The head temple. Plus. Aw. That actual love. The obvious thing is let's make it real lava. Because who was that looked? Make it real stakes. That happens they. Don't show them ever again. They die. It does make it appear as if they drown. When they do it pretty sweet gig twitter, following US fall like the floor floors lava twitter. They were saying there compared to WHO's that guy from Augusta? From. Get sucked out the chocolate. That's what happens to these contestants when go into lava. Episodic or the like they win, and they move on. No, that was one thing that they fucked up. I believe is they? Don't move on a just. They winter thousand dollars to the. Two different teams, each t h three games of three. Sometimes they do. Two teams are three teams of twos. Awesome okay, and all they to across one time, or does like the level change. Each step saw so there's three different levels, and then the second do it, so they did three six episodes I believe and then. Three different maps, but then they make the map harder. They repeated little harder to people. Get fucked up hot. Do they? And they make fun of him for it and it looks like just normal human beings. Athletic. How're the announcers? Who who's like the host of the show announcer socks? The first thing he says is. visit bills favorite. Now would go. Rutledge wars. The he says is went ten thousand dollars a chance to win me. Me So. He's a He is a NASCAR commentator. He goes around does that, but he also did top gear us. Bill? I just look this guy up and I know why you like him is electric. He looks like you if you drink the WHO's. Do you watch do. Yeah I've seen a couple episodes. watchable or no, no yeah it is, it's good i. mean means you have talked about this ad nauseam. It's good for something in the background, but the levels are joke like they try to make. It's like A. It's a two foot jump baby. Four for a six foot leap the go for and the guys just reaching over. The people for the most part do the same like there are little things you'd like. Pull Shit off the wall and you like put it into something so. Yeah, exactly it's got a lot of that everything. The rules charitable, but they never use does at the exact same way, though like no one really tries to go about it differently, which is it timed? Yeah, so it comes. Thirty minutes yeah, so like if every person passes three points, obviously, if I make it through and onto a a time limit, whoever faster? That it was your favorite of all time. It up there. I would love white about. The course like they would have like legit wipeouts on. Wipe out that they don't really as much. Of the floor Islam and everyone dies, so it seems like she just launch it. Coming I've seen this. I know we're dealing with. I think this is where we left off. Don't talk to me if you're. If you're told at the golf course, it's car path only. Do you still play? Yeah. I do. Stinks if Dole walking, only. Good! Chance of not plans different different questions on. Your moves fucking drives through. T BARS! Do that I love tee boxes live. Baby. Why did you do go fast? He gets off on it. It's weird. Were you in the car with them. No I would have bailed out. You were your. Car's own cards you did I would never drive through. Lean in a cart within where he's flirted with it, and I had literally grab wheel jerking. Back. On there, I mean have some respect for the court. And the people that do their jobs now I helped run a golf course. Run once, and I know how it goes and basically going into the bathroom. On the floor still. Boost. Oh Yeah love. It love doing it. You can't do that the one golf course I go to. The old PA I used to drive through everything. You can. Just? Walk. Away greatest actually much worse than its way thicker grass when you get closer to the way that we played like no sign this year. It's fenced in on the fairways. Chain, link fence. Member there I thought it was the place that we play nine to begin the year off, okay. Nice. Yeah, that's fine. That's fine. Yeah, all right. Nice? Path, we're fucking playing. As well Actually Motherfucker, actually technically a Pumpkin is a fruit because it is the female parts of a plant, they get horned up dump Lamar band. Plant sex makes a PUMPKIN. It's up boys. Do we usually yeah, you think. It was a fruit. You guys laughed at me and then we moved on. I said it was a fruit. If we're being accurate I, don't remember this. Isis is okay. I said. I said Pumpkin Pie. Obviously, pumpkins are fruits. Apple Pie Pumpkin Pie, blueberry pie off fruits. Because if it if it is a vegetable by, it's a Potpie. Bingo, Set. I joke that Jason. I could go. Best. Shepherd's Pie. What the fuck is that Bill Shepherd's? Three hours. That's logger. That's longer waits I'm then like stuff. Head its head. Yeah, exactly you do, and there has shepherds by. Chicken Potpie flaky buttery crust. Oh No, no! No talion! Trash select a food. That's. Fair. Hey, hey, point was sweet. Top A shepherd PAS. Oh, yeah, no, he copy rose or just meat pies. Technically. Why did he put people's body parts and pilots? Yes. Really yes. Tall. Even. Bernard. Pulls out the knife. Michael setups the winds roles. Someone has. A bird. The bird is dead. You Kill the bird. Side. Like you. Murder. Some next. Guinea, bag of mix when the sort of content such as cashews, peanuts, raisins, almonds Eminem, M.'s. What is your favorite item in the trail mix, and do you avoid eating other items in the mix? That is a great a trail mix. What he just laid out right there for sure. Always avoid the reasons. I love rates. Never eat the raisins and. If I'm not that hungry. Can tell the cashews to fuck off to. FUCKING ABSURD USER IS I've grown age, and as you'll learn as an age, you learn to enjoy all of the things in the mix. RAISES RAISING THE JIM? Ever enjoy what's raisins are gross I'd rather a grape. Your this is a hill that you have climbed before and will die on. I just I just think about how much I wanna hit, Carter and how the shovel right now for the disparaging remarks about cash cash. Alice balked up. You would like a cashew almond. I would like an almond more than a cashier. That's meant yes I, love cashiers. lucious anyone who's eaten a cashier before loves cashiers. Peanuts sit on top of mount in everybody else's. Again peanuts early champion food of the Poor's much like those yellow bag, lay's chips. Piece! They are the fucking lowest of the low, and they're fine. I'll eat them. Yeah, I love them, but which is understand where they where they exist that. Oh they bought them. No, they don't. They live right next to the honey roasted peanuts. That's just another flavor of. By the way, the top of the mountain boys, the what you want about raisins, but in a trail mix that sweetness Soviet saltiness things is just. It's glory. Texture, properly I just. Put It on Eminem. That is. Absolutely despicable last later medicine I. From the guys, unsalted peanuts, and that's it and they're delicious. Joined the ballgame even more while I'm sure. Only. Eat the shell to you sick. Fuck I'm always in a Balky. Does anyone else do what I do and and just put the the entire thing your mouth suck all the salt off the show, and then just that's it. That's Texas roadhouse baby, never a love. You'll, salty. Love. Or just? Throwing them on the ground and smashing them doing that. All right next. He's still do that. Respectfully so. These heads fucking mispronounce I know the Kirkland's Costco's and Sam's clubs members Mark Gay. This was the most sent in version of pod factors after his last episode and everyone knows it. Everyone knows it just like if I would have been McDonald's Walker yeah I know it's big, Mac. You fucking pieces of Shit. Jeez. Well there was like thirty seven people here I mean Jeez to the people. Stop talking. I, M Jason Tony's Tony. And you represent the people, but also members also this. Idol yes. There isn't much. Members Mark Whiskey atrocious never never had any markers. There's one thing that you don't get. And maker's mark. Maker's mark a real realistic members Marcus state. Okay just want to clear that up. Sorry attacked everyone. That's on me. You guys are just doing your job. Sometimes they respect listener. You're just doing your job. And I got upset and I Apologize I. You did ask them the fact. I know I know and I got upset and I apologize. On behalf. Thank you thank you. Thank you no. Thank you. but holes right. Yeah okay, well, then this ad is for you. It's hard to believe that when we go to the bathrooms country, most of US white instead of wash. For years days have been available, but hideously expensive costing thousands of dollars. But the Hello Toshi Modern Day attachment is here democratize the blessings bestowed by days and offer clean holes to everyone nothing worse than having a fucking dirty butthole. No, IT'S NOT A. 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That's hello. Toshi dot com slash the pod. pod fact close call the baby living in the placenta. The baby lives in the amniotic SAC. Slash grows from the Placenta Placenta is attached this act. But that's that was an exact point. Is that's babies thrown into the water? Just think that they are in the amniotic sac still so they don't they don't. Worry about it back in the sack on this place places awesome. Pants you placenta now I mean. It'd be great yeah. That's sweet, sweet certain. You. Know, what the well yeah, obviously, when babies when I was baby, but yeah, that would be mindset when he's back. Being back in sack, being tossing pool correct, let me get a leper placenta. Baby food stuff like the Banana Gerber. I would. I think it was banana I love, but I was Gonna say I would I would pound. Today. I just wanted to eat. Cereal also was really cool. What you get like the industrial sized. fucking peanut butter, fucking jar the. Wind Horse. Baby spoons that had like the rubber. The rubber spoon part instead of metal. See those are very. Very fun to eat still got no Do you. Know I can imagine I probably wouldn't like nowadays. There's probably a distinguished. The the baby from that time source stink wish days. I. Don't know that's what I picture picture. You eat, baby foods either the dinosaur. Weird. Ever separate when you compare them to the baby. From. Love that show! That does not. It. Doesn't sound like you. Don't. Know, what I'm talking about? What was a show called the I think it was just dinosaurs. Let me. Let me confirm name was. I. Up, big enough. There is. He's right there. Is. The Baby Ones Yeah Oh. Yeah, see you look more like the old man I think. John Goodman. That's that's how I always. Pictured it. I always pictured. What's the show? And Yeah. That's what I thought it was. Version Roseanne. All right next. To pod facts, this is for you. Chart Jesus on Java scrip- not an operating system. To. To programming language for use in web browsers to the I. Is derived from the early two thousands. Anything apple made that had some sort of action had to let her I in its name. Yeah, everybody knows knows that you guys. For Tyson jobs go I. Did I did. Hyperbolic I was. Thank you like the Chamber, Birlik. Joke. Off Script and what are you know? That voice. It's actually a fucking SNL. Skip from two thousand, three June found nick burns the fact, check. Check it out. Maybe get read a book. Anything. Oh, yes, mean time. We're looking at this airport earlier. You know. We talked about airports. That should have everything in them. This. Airport in Singapore. Literally does like we looked it up. It has it has a movie theater. It has the naps. It has a newer massages. definitely has an arcade. It has an entire indoor waterfall with a like a trail. Late. Yeah, it's. Pretty Nice, but isn't place where like if you get caught stealing a stick of gum, they can you with a stick for like ten wasn't. Saying that you should steal stuff from the airport steel. Point I honestly pros and call I'm sure they have their. Crime rate because of that. I don't know that don't change. That didn't make you want to go to Singapore. That may be one on eleven. Saint I listen. I grew up watching wrestling and sauce Singapore. Cane so I research, and what Singapore Canes or about I'm cool. I'm not going to Singapore. Enough Singapore Bangkok Free Level of crime very. You know very low well. Yeah, you can't beat with stiff. It works. It works I've t-shirt from hooters and for you. Cook? Singapore. A No. It's entirely used to travel a lot and he used to bring me back like the hard rock cafe with from like Buenos Aires. Sitting from Argentina. Yes very well. there. Hey PAPI just putting out a pod fact, Boston Connor has the greatest national demand bought facts you. Can you make a dense? Can, hear dancer. Own. Thank you? Just curious, what you guys think of crux? Is this guy's name really? Dick Richard I doubt it. Maybe though it'd be sweet if it was elleman maybe though I've never. That, we do have a pair out here that tried on. They seem very complicated across. Because it was cool thing to do but We got a pair from shot up bird dogs put on and a love. They're very comfortable. Wall they're great. I need to get a pair for something like that. Because I've ruined my slippers, ligon outside in the rain and whatnot I do need a pair of crocs. We have any left in here. We do actually believe we bill bill was a jerk and often him the other day. so I don't know if he took them home or not ski masturbate I'M NOT GONNA. Wear them out to the bar talk now. Town. Getting Shit done around the do have the function. They have functionality. Yeah. I assume they're good. Beat shoe as well. I still don't think I'd wear them there either because people would see it. Never had crocks. Get very cheap. Kabila's might get a new bill. How often do you go to Cabela's? Let's be honest before quarantine or post quarantine over under. Before. Quarantine three times a week old. That was more than I thought about right on. Do you normally do? You can get a lot of really good fudge their. Meg got some really good controls for fudges. Homemade Fudge outdoors door. Bachelor show. Their bills three times a week. But for such. And the. Just just Monday trip. Trying to tell us that he can't survive in the wilderness, but he's GonNa Fuck and Gander Mountain three times a week Gander. Mountain actually closed had a membership to them they rodney. Abyss. anti-tank mines, yes. You all your Anti Rocky Mountains Biza, oh. Get around a big appalachian chain. I believe there. It's just stopped coming I. Believe the Gainer Mound Symbol is actually the rockies, but. That's neither here nor there. Bill anymore anything else eat. I thought that this was just zero. This from Carlton Burlson Burleson. Walking around with my ear buds and laughing my nineteen year old daughter with Down Syndrome says Oh my God Zito because the first time. She asked why I was laughing. I said it was because of zito corner. All viewers funniest shit. That's. That is an honor I mean it's always good. We can get a good laugh out as the ADS eat. Well was evie. Means you're huge huge very funny things on a regular basis. Thank you. See. What is this is the dumbest fucking thing of all time and I can't believe this is even a question. Man Sunday. Are you kidding me? all right, so the question is. When is the first day of the week for you? Guys and Connor just said Sunday. He doesn't really police. There's no, no you just because you because you've never actually worked a no. No, no, no. This is because when I was younger. One of the months there's like two or three months that started on Sunday, and because of that I always like Sundays the first day of the week. So they monetize, there's a I see I consider Saturday beginning of the week, because according to Uncle Sam's. Uncle out. What you got. Out of Saturday. Big On, Friday bangers signal the end of the week. He added the. We yeah the end of the work week. No. End of the work week worked as. A weekend and funding new week starts doesn't. No, he doesn't, but that's what he's implying because he's. Real work week job before. Good point, that's what. I cannot see I have a real conversation here building you bring the strache. Puts sorry, this is why put stupid fucking questions in here because I, know I'm GonNa. Get stupid answers Oh. Sunday's best connor was six years old, and there was a Sunday three times in and out of the entire year out of the fifty fucking weeks. That started a week. Off Week start on Sunday yeah. It's Monday. What what was January first this year? It wasn't Sunday. Saturday. Saturday. Does it matter what day was? You know the whole entire year started on Sunday then they kinda would so every years. It's a different day, yeah! I'm yes, everywhere. I was indeed A. Fuck. No. Start Bills Years. Was a wins that the beginning of the week now for some people probably yeah. For Sure For them. You know what I mean like a decade. Yeah, the beginning of their. We can't is so much better because two days into it is Friday. Starting on Sunday. Monday. Even a dumb ass counters Sunday, which also upsets me. Calendars. Change that now. Big Calendar that's big counter big calendar yeah. Big House. Some do! I do think about this. What's what was the son that you learn when you're younger? How about the days of the week? It's in another week. Fair enough fair. Tom Puckett. Seven of them do on Sunday Monday. Tuesday Wednesday. You guys! Did this song? No, Thursday fraud. Drinking, we watched fucking. Happy Days Do. Sunday Monday. But, anyway, how about that? That? How many kids were in your class Know. I. Oh. Know there were. Monday saw. Twenty people my class. Granted I graduate after most. Anything else does less up. Photos overshadows over. The, rules. Are the rules of quarantine folders. Debt. Death yeah, I understand like you're the POD. The week starts on Monday for you guys like I understand that. But Sunday is kind of like the first day of the week. You know what I mean. No, no! I just feel bad for you. Guys then 'cause Sunday to start. The week is a great day, so you have Saturday. Saturday's grey to. Cause end under the week. Good Week. Break Up, let's go here. We go again. It's awesome. See you ain't you wake up with Sunday's go. Let's start this fucking thing off right? Yeah, exactly, that's what we did. Me Nigga under golf. Gouging grates on on the last day of my week. I believe. Aleksey bomber for man. My weeks start lose out on a high no see. I started my week off on an unbelievably high. I woke up and went to work on Monday morning because of the starving new week and I was ready to. That stay for you I was already a day ahead of you rather trucking ardy into my week. Dude, so people who have graveyard shift Sunday is the beginning of the week, right? Yes. That's the only time I can imagine. That's depending 'cause. Shift though also. Let's not do that. If you're working in a dump or something, some we not some. Some done are closed Sunday Monday some dumps so some where you put your trash. Fuck you know like at the dump? Yeah Yeah. What does that have to do that and they come? Get my trash on Monday morning. Okay, so for the weekend after the end of the week so. There's no one picking up trash on Sunday. Some you know exactly the. End of the we used on Thursday or on Sunday and Monday. So Monday is their Sunday so Tuesday's the beginning of their week, so some people's week starts on Tuesdays. I'm trying to say here. I'm an amending myself. See I, told you know I told you can't do it anymore. Seventh day they have rest of the week. Got, me on their. While I, keep believing. Joe.

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65 - Azerbaijan GP 2019

"Sheba coup. I think that's as Johnny for well done. Google translate. Does not have the voice conversion button for as Johnny. So I'm calling the the squiggly line the as an S H sound. So it is as Johnny though, it's not as your by Zine or Azure, or anything like that. It's what the internet tells me. Awesome internet's never wrong. So yes, she and welcome to shift F one podcast about speed race cars. I'm drew Scanlon. With me, Danny O'Dwyer. How are you? I'm doing our ice that was a whole weekend races. The whole I wanna talk about all of them. We're going to talk about one of them. But I it was it was fourth on my list of races that I want. It did not get on the podium, but it was interesting. I will say it was an interesting weekend in one lots of interesting characters coming at the season, certainly. Yeah. Also on our three person podium here. Rubs acting. How are you? Rub. Not too bad. Really curious how the rest of the season shakes out this feels like the early story arcs are kind of wrapping up the intro to the season. We got in there. Episode. And now we start getting into the real conflicts. Should we just jump right into it? Speaking of conflicts, this started back in practice really kick things off Bawku style with George Russell sucked up drain cover. Yeah. Right. Like tearing the bottom of his car off. Basically, I thought I was a suit Sayer for a second rather than not a suit Sayer. I thought I was Rob's soothsayer. Like, he's the article I'm on the person that climbs the mountain to tell everyone when I come back that because we were talking about the whole. You know, front wing problem again. And I was like oh it happened. Again. Finally, it happened again somebody dumped out and pick something up. But it was just a man over which I thought was something they learned years ago is this happens and Charlie whiting isn't around to the is and cross the t's anymore. Like there is a bolt of a failed clamp to the. They went and checked three hundred other manhole covers just to be sure this was the only one. So also just add insult to injury here when they put Russell's car onto the back of a truck it drove right into a bridge. Like, it was too tall for the bridge. And just. Smack the arms hydraulic arm climb and just start like hemorrhaging fluid all over the internet cover. This is the first thing that happened all weekend as well. So it was like a practice had only just started. So I'm at the red flag the whole session. Right. So I think the Ferraris the only ones to set any time mental like, well, at least p two will be better off your thankfully Williams had a spare car, which you're not allowed to use the same session. But I think it's fine. Otherwise in the rules. Also, the the race organizer sent flowers to to wrestles. On apology. Apparently his fire extinguisher went off to. So it was like freezing his legs as he was selling like our gods. Yeah. Ricardo on Twitter after that happened said well done bucket. Yeah. That's been. I believe George Russell was the behind or not beyond the grid today. Why do they behind the scenes thing? They do would one driver. He was the focus of that called. Yeah. I don't know. It's like it's like the embedded thing. UFC of does. It's it was interesting. It was interesting getting a feel of his of his his personality. And it's very funny seeing not just hey young ears. But just how young is in comparison to everyone else in the organization like people are involved enough one at any level, PR engineering, or whatever they're all kind of like in their thirties, or like, you know, some of them are younger, but he so young. So it's almost like, you know, who is deciding which adults to sit at the table with when you when he was getting off the scene all access. It's called all with Ricardo which was actually pretty good too. I don't know if we mention them, but yeah, they're little vignettes. They remind me I wonder if it's the drive to survive team like just thrown off some dailies. It looks like that. But yeah, Packers one did not really happen. To had a lot of people going off making mistakes. Stroll hit a wall snapped off his front left. Hamilton, BOTAS ghastly in Ricardo all went off at certain turns and like practice is where you're supposed to do this. Like, you're finding breaking points. Right. But this is just a lot like Claire bump the wall. A couple times feet hit the walled stepped off his front left. And like seeing all this great. Yes. All right Bawku is coming up is going to be great. This just going to be chaotic actually further chaos in free practice to ghastly missed the way bridge. So you're supposed to come in. And there's a a way bridge where they way your car next to the pit lane and you get called in at random. So you know, a cars can't be too light. Or? To to have you would wanna be heavy. They can't be too light. So they weigh them periodically and guess just blew right by it, which I'm sure was an accident. But like rules is rules. So it seems like I know you only see like the moment of the infraction. But does not seem we've seen this coming up other places in never seems to me like you get much notice not only the thing random. But it really does sort of seem like you are coming into the pit lane. And they flag you, and you're like you have to notice immediately that there is a light at the end of the pit lane flashing for you in the gate you need to get onto the way bridge. I don't know of sons the same message to your steering wheel. But. You know, it's a busy environment. You're thinking about getting your pit box. It just seems like a very. Seems a very easy mistake to make not one you should make. But nevertheless, it does seem like this isn't like the tell you you need to come in for a way in. It's literally you're you're already there. And then you come over here now. Yeah. It seems like an easy thing to to mess up. He did. And we'll start from the pit lane as a result. Such a crazy like penalty. I just I thought that was bananas. Like, I guess it's it's meant to stop people from doing it like come on. That's like that's a that's a disastrous thing to penalty to give someone completely ruin their weekend. For for just not realizing yet. He also apparently failed a fuel flow limit in Q one. So he would have incurred a penalty there. And they changed his gearbox. Which maybe? Yeah, they just got. Running or one car. Speed a witch Reichen also failed wing deflection test. So your front wing is only allowed to flex actually. I have right here. Race fans dot net dug up the regulation it deflected more than five millimeters under a load of sixty Newton's. How dare he violating article three point nine point eight of the one technical regulations if his mother heard thus? Unbelievable. ES? So with that comedy of errors. Let's go into qualifying. The madness continues. It really did. And I almost mentioned this article last week in our news recap. But apparently, Robert Kabila is the only driver to have not driven at Baku like a lot of the rookies had done in formula too. But commits a set it's a brand new track for me is quote from Ray Spence dot net on Thursday. I did a couple of laps in the simulator. But unfortunately, our track in the simulator is not Representative to what is reality on my gosh. So apparently Williams's model of the Bawku track is just saying the just pay the Cote masters game. That's that's what it was as he may have been better off doing that. Because q one smash cut Robert is in the wall right in front of the castle. I believe that is the first f one car. That has gone into that corner. It's taken a couple of scalps in informative too and whatnot. But I don't believe that's actually happened in Formula one. I'm pretty sure we have what I maybe somebody's clips in the past. But I don't think anyone's like like broken like a wheel going into that section scares. It's an instant red flag. Like, there's nothing new about it. Because it that that part is like what six and a half meters wide or something. Yeah. Crushing lamonica. It's like do the races soft, so Robert commit? So will also start from the pit with the amount of changes that they had to do to his car. He really did hug that inside curbed. Oh, did you see the like? Yeah. He's in a very car. I feel about you know, like, we talked talked about the way he was Griffin the trouble. They're having trying to get into the tires. But even still you could it seemed like there was never going to be a way for him to get out of the the right hander with the way he entered the left. I mean, it's easy for me to say here. But it did seem like he he bobbled on us. But also the angle Yod was just he just went to early. I guys I think I think it was Paul duress to who's who. Was explaining that. He is Davidson, but they said like he the car turned better than he thought it would over. But that was maybe a result of him not pushing fast enough, which may be a result of him. Not knowing the track as well. So rush, you know, who knows? But yeah, he does clip the inside which is it's so it's a really tight left-hander, and he clips the inside of that left apex, which then like catapults them to the right in into the barriers. Then we go to Q two. Smash cut again, different car in the wall. This time same wall different car. This time is Charlotte. Declare couldn't have been a more interesting person to done us. I think like a lot of eyes on him. He's done well at this circuit. He knows it. Well, he's won multiple times. I believe I think what he's gotten pulled here on one thing. Maybe he didn't win out of the race to that year because of some infraction. You got after the racist. But he's he basically like crossed the finish line twice winning this circuit. He knows it. So well, and also we're all wait to see that Bala with him and say on a street circus, like let's let's let's let's see about it. Yeah. I was shocked when I saw and second. Rush difference. Yeah. Had this one sort of he locked it. Eight side of. Yeah. Yeah. He didn't touch the inside apex. He like locked it up. And instead of bailing tried to make it and then just went straight into the wall. And so heartbreaking, airing his reaction. Yeah. He's just like I'm stupid stupid. I'm sorry. His confidence in the vast like two or three races. It's just chipped away piece by piece, and you think so I feel like I feel like like, I don't know if he's Darasing himself necessarily or he's frustrated, but I like crashing in qualifying is one of the worst things like you're right on your right on the limit. Like, it's all about you and the track when you're going for your qualifying lot. Like, it's all about thou. It's the ultimate sort of like a test of skill essentially for these drivers and to do it unto like to do it to crash that badly to red flag a session as like in the car. The the best maybe the best or second best car on the truck is I think that probably. I think katelyn you'll be a safer struck for him in that respect. Yeah. I really felt for when it happens. You know, because I felt like everyone was pulling from to do out in qualities. Yeah. For sure to me. He seems like the guy that I think he's he has the sort of. Really kind of rare humility among f one drivers that like I think he's the kind of guy at least he seems to me to be able to accept. Responsibility for something like that. And in so doing kind of. Let it go a little bit like, yeah. I messed up now. It's time to buckle down and move on. So yeah. Hopefully, hopefully, he can do that in the race. Q three though comes and goes with BOTAS looking for redemption. And he does so putting it on poll point zero five nine seconds ahead of Hamilton and point three oh to to Sebastian federal in third place. What do you say we run down the rest of the grid here max for staff and in fourth Sergio Perez he really likes this circuit as well starting fifth. He's the only guy going into this race who has gotten multiple podiums. Yeah. It's amazing. The only person. Yeah. It's crazy. Dan, Kaffee it starting six of in front of Landau Norris, Charlotte. Clare who moves up a couple of spots as a result of some penalties which will get to cosigns junior in ninth and Ricardo rounding out the top ten behind them album. Magnusson stroll grew John Holcomb Burg. Russell Antonio juvenile gets a ten place grid penalty for using too many power unit elements Robert Cabeza again starting from the pit lane. His setup changes Reichen for his wing deflection. And ghastly for missing the way bridge, a gearbox change and exceeding the maximum fuel flow limit keeping a little bit of an ion Holcombe brook. He's really not feeling like I was surprised just poorly. He doesn't qualley like like himself Danica was felt like they were in different cars. But there. Yeah. It's I feels one that doesn't like this track. L really is. Yeah, he doesn't do. Well, you're right. Whatever reason you wanna take us through the star. Danny sure. I mean, I'm not I always feel like the the first heard in Baku. I'm the second turnabout coup. I feel like every year we've had something go on the first couple of laps. I mean that escape road at the end of the second turn a lot of action all over the weekend. But as it happens. There wasn't all that much in terms of contacts coming into the first the first off of luck. Hamilton ties was basically where everyone's eyes were got a wonderful start off the line and to his credit left a nice amount of space for voluntary to fight back. And it seemed pretty he didn't close them off in any respect even as sort of regained track position going into turn to and he left space for Hamilton as well. I mean, you kind of have to on the inside that quarter or otherwise you're probably going to hurt yourself as well. But on the way onto that sort of the second D R, I guess technically the first year, I straight the straight after turn to they were still neck and neck voluntary. Got ahead of them protected. He kind of moved early to his left and then protect the set of the x for the Tara. But by that stage, kind of like cemented the the the track position. And by the end of the lap. You'd actually gains quite advantage over Hobbiton. So we he wrote well once he sort of recovered from that start the only main piece of action that was interesting beforehand was Sergio Perez getting past MAC for stopping on that turn to and somewhere at the back. I'm not sure if it was really televised wrenching. But Ricardo ended up a head of the Clara believe so he actually managed to gobble up with Denise ninth or tenth tenth so directly behind the client. Yeah. Claire kind of bogged it, oh, it's like acres. Eighth eighth. Yeah. So we may two positions up. Yeah. Yeah. So I guess oh did LeClair Baga. So we had another. They're bad stars. Yeah. Interesting. I think so if I'm remembering the replay which apart from that came around for the next lap. And you know, the the pack was pretty close together. But it was it was interesting just seeing just how far boathouse was already at that stage where used to roles reversed in the case. But yeah, you could you know out there. I was kind of on his way. Once he recovered from the start. Yeah. Verstappen though, I think it was cool seeing Peres jump in. But like again got this kind of split field here with Verstappen getting by him pretty easily on lap five. Not that. I think about it was required on Soft's. Yes. And I forgot to mention this the Claire starting on medium tires because those are the tires that he he actually got into Q three despite having crashed in Q two of no talking. Yeah. Did any like a good time? Thankfully, though, I think the. F I or whoever let him. Use a different physical set of tires because usually the regulations are the actual tires that you set your lap time on are the ones that you start the race on. But that's in Q three isn't this in Q two. Oh, the tires you use. If you get to Q three the tires you used to get there are the actual physical tires that. You're not the ones that you not. Of three. Yes. Put on a good show for the people tires. And then what we sometimes see them appear during the rice, rightly like receipt, the Q three one. Sometimes that's extra used pair. They sort of have sometimes right seasons. Claire had an extra set of soft though. Correct. Because he didn't use. Okay. Okay. Yeah. Anyway, he didn't have to do that. Use those actual tires because he crashed. Right. So they let him use some new medium tires same compound, but different actual tired. But it seemed like a rice just going into it. That was going to be a one stop with a. A medium at a soft at least going into without Scott. But that also safety madness usually at this track sort of makes more of a possibility. So starting on the mediums you kinda hoping well the end of the race like at that back. Yes, thinking everybody else in the top ten is starting on soft tyres everyone's thinking that they'll start pitting around lap fourteen. Ever stopping gets back. The place the Perez took on lap fifth the fifth for fourth place writing in also I was having problems with his new front wing and has two pit early. Sixty eight Newton's. He was enjoying exactly LeClair makes up a lot of. Positions though, even though he is on those medium tires apparently. They. Are looking like the better tire for this race pretty early on the soft may have a faster pace. But it looks like only for a few laps. There's a faster cliff apparently on those tires whereas the mediums are slower to begin with. But last for much longer graining weirdly really easily in these temperatures. I think that was one of the other issues with them is that not only that they're sweet spot not last for long, but just in terms of the character of their where the medium stayed good for awhile and fell off very gradually and predictably whereas these software, apparently at least a lot of cars wearing ungracefully in a way that you'd not wanna tire wear. The track was also like we're used to seeing the big change over the weekend. But it was a different track. When it came to race day. I'm I'm sure the F PT races at a massive effect on that. It's just so it's so funny. How seeing the races where there are the sorry. The formula two races where they don't happen. But you get that extra hand of Robert it's put on all these cars, especially with the about a safety cars. They had I wonder if that extended again because they were just because they're timed Rice's. Right. So like, I wonder if that was if that improved or not. Yeah, they were also talking about the difference between sun and shade. Here was free drastic. And again, a wind coming off the Caspian Sea. So a lot of a lot of environmental things to consider LeClair blows by for stepping on lap ten for fourth place. Ghastly also moving up quick from the pit lane. He's up to seventh place by lap eleven although to people by that point had already pitted ahead pissed up start happening around lap ten or so which is early which is. Yeah. Which is way early than people thought they were going to do. Leclair actually manages to catch Sebastian fedel around lap twelve which again highlights the fact that started on sauce in the Clara's on mediums, and by then he had already caught up to that point federal pits, then before LeClercq and actually catch him sidestepping that you know. Main issue, I guess and then to follow suit Mercedes than pitch their drivers BOTAS and then Hamilton, I actually got a message. I think on Twitter from someone saying like you mentioned the under undercut, but could you explain it? So I think this is a perfect opportunity to do. So. Federal who is behind Hamilton who's behind BOTAS pits. I and if he puts on new tires, especially these mediums, which are working pretty well. He could potentially on those new fast tires go much faster than BOTAS Hamilton going. So even though he is physically on track behind those guys. They've still got a pit. So if he is making up time on them when they pit they might come out behind him if he goes faster for longer. So what you wanna do to prevent that is to pit right after federal. So that he doesn't make up time on you. That's covering for the undercut. Got it. Folk graph of that or something I'm not sure I did the best best explanation. There. I'm sure there are YouTube videos Verstappen does not pit he is going longer. And I think pits around lap fifteen and they actually talked to Christian Horner about the tires and stuff and he calls the Clair's pit stop at lap thirty five or. Yeah. Which does end up happening. Also further insults injury for Williams. Kabila gets a drive through for arriving at the pit exit too early. Which is a rule that they did not. Well, okay. They knew it existed. But didn't know that there was a gap in the those like a window pasta point where they knew they were supposed to go that they did not go before. So literally when that happens they had to like inquire race cajole as to what exactly specifically why they had been lace because they didn't realize like there was a specific window that the come under. Yeah. Yeah. Which is such. How it's it's that's inviting. It's like when you got caught for speeding in the pit lane. But like when you don't know what was a rule that must stink twice as bad. I must look just like egg on your face. I think it's a new rule to real rough. Yeah. Let's see his hand hand penalties for policy and fractions this weekend. I know. Yeah. Cracking down lap thirty BOTAS who has pitted catches LeClair who has not yet pitted. And is in first place, which is interesting because you think that maybe LeClair can backbone toss into Hamilton who is a second and a half behind BOTAS or maybe back Hamilton develop who's three and a half seconds spec. From hamilton. But that doesn't really happen. Botas gets by the Claire and retakes the lead and Hamilton gets by latte later. I still don't know what for I reducing like in the race in the fog of war. I didn't understand why they weren't bringing them in. I still don't think I understand. Why were they was it the safety car thing? They were just like man was at fry indecision the rob was talking for a couple of weeks all over again. Oh, I think like genuinely like I was watching that. And it's apprise me in the sense that it was an obviously poor call. They were making their hand LeClair to dry, but it made perfect sense with the track record for Arias assembling of being unable to. Like make important calls with live race. I also can't help. It wonder LeClair strategy really worked out well like incredibly well to the point where he goes on the soft like they pull him in before he becomes like just a sitting duck out there for the Ferraris because they did not have to work another price. The Mercedes the Mercedes drivers did not have to work hard to pass him. Like, he was basically he'd given up so much time they caught up to him that he could not defend at all. And my the thing I'm wondering about was was screwing up his race strategy a way to duck having to the side who who you were aiming to put higher in the placement. The end of the race. Could could hit because if he if they hit him earlier and now he is coming out on soft s- arguable like supposedly the higher performing tire and suddenly he merchants like say right behind sub. That's that's the thing. I was wondering I was looking at is like is this a way of unsung level not dealing with this again like in addition to like like just hesitancy about race strategy. Is there also just a hesitancy now to sort of play that game of swapping the car order tactically like is that becomes so fraught that they're kind of just like? Almost willing themselves situations where like the situation is basically resolved without them having had to make a clear public choice and the result of that is like LeClair got buried yet. Again. I like far have traditionally been a driver one driver to team more than a love iota teams. You have to imagine though, like getting rid of. I mean, there's been a lot of like had had, you know, changes at the organizational level over the past year Ferrari F onc-, but like you have to imagine when they're preparing for this season. They were calling in with vary. Rookie driver one scenario. Like, I don't I'm sure they didn't think it was going to be like Kimmy and said, but I don't think they thought it was going to be like it is now and I wonder if it's rob saying that like they had their game plan then and they haven't sort of like RIA dressed that stage. Maybe maybe they're hoping that it'll settle the back to what they originally had or maybe they're competent to minds on it. But it just seems like leclair's is he's having the look, and he's had a couple of things that are within his control that have gone wrong. But he's also having a lot of things that are outside of his control go wrong that said, isn't and you kind of feel like why is that happening as we? Say the longer the season goes on the more. We can see these patterns emerging. But that's one that we're starting to see now is that like he's having a bit about look. But he's also feels like he's getting those driver number two. Decisions in a way, that's not really happening at Mercedes, for instance in. I think to your point like it kind of makes sense for that to be the initial plan. Like, all right. We're going to prioritize federal and the Clare, you know, you just do what you can or or here's here's your duty for the race, blah, blah, blah. But you're right. Like, they have opportunities that show up, but because that doesn't fit into the plan. They don't take any risks or they don't capitalize on situations. They just stick to plan a all of the time because that's the safest and most conservative thing to do. Which is I mean, that's for argue nutshell. Right. Yeah. The other part of things being ruthless. Right. This is this is the thing is like if you're going to run your team this way, and it's to hell with it. Like, you're all chest. You're all just like pawns on my chessboard, I'll movie around at as we see fit. I mean, again, the Schumacher era that was his team like everything sort of built around him. The other part of this is if you're trying to like your desperately trying to stay alive in the constructors championship forgiving forget about driver's championship for the moment. You just want to stay alive like a little bit longer because this is a snowballing disaster that is unfolding and at that point like you need to be able to just make these really. Colt like coal decisions of look. Look Claire had a really good for stint on this fresh mediums tire worked out way better than we thought. Now, we need to get him on the sauce earlier in this race sev- needed move out of the way because you not on the you're not on the fast higher right now LeClair needs to go under attack. Like, that's that. The weird thing is I actually think that's doing an injustice to said like that is actually a call that. I think would get right like, especially given the weirdness of how this whole race dynamic shook out like if it's. We know we have a fast car. I'm not sure we won't come back to that. The second. We know theoretically, we've got a really fast car leclair's, really good here. Things have shaken out where he managed to stay ahead of the fraud of Mercedes for a while. We can put them on the soft and see what he can get done. I don't think that is a decision that is controversial or is going to. So a lot of bad blood in the team. But instead it was just this weird. I would've understood it drew. You said maybe he wants to back the teary into in Hamilton. I would I would have gotten it. If there's been anything left in the car that he could have done that. Right. Like just just sort of route leg just make that car is wide as possible and just relentlessly screw with those guys. But the problem is it didn't look like you carry enough speed into sectors three to maintain any kind of gap that straight line speed could do him any good. But it just like whatever that plan was didn't come close to working out. And then by the time he's on the soft. He's being told boy track conditions are really bad. The track is cooling off asked. I just go into protect protection mode. And the track conditions weren't prize. Either like the bad temperatures, the what was happening late in the day was also had also been a feature throughout the weekend. So it also shouldn't have been price to them like damn like he's come out on the soft, and there's not a lot in that tire right now. And if you've done it had like a half dozen laps earlier. Maybe I it's just it's a weird decision. They're getting a lot of bad breaks. I think they're also making a fair bit of of their own bad luck. Raise one thing that I wanna ask you as I kept hearing this weekend people talking about we know for our has the best car the better car. Do we how is? Yeah. I I kept. I was actually sort of wanted to ask you about that as well. Because I didn't see at any stage over the weekend. Like like, it was hard and practice because it was ridiculous. Practice was weird and track conditions restraint, and everyone was swimming. And and there was a bunch of crashes and stuff. But like I never felt that way felt like they were to pay sprouts. Like it felt it didn't feel like last year. But at no stage at Baku feel like a track that for Ari how to add on at all. I just wanted to point out the first the most sums up comment on the qualifying highlights for Formula one YouTube channel. Roses are red violets are blue Ferrari are fastest Mercedes one too. Hey, if you want poetry bad f on you, wait till the Email section this. We got some good stuff coming. I don't know it just baffles me this idea like Ferrari squandering their moment like where they have the best car the better car because if we're drawing that conclusion from things Mercedes or saying publicly they lie all the time like Hamilton always thinks things are going terribly until he just winds up at the top of the podium, and he's like damn I really didn't think we had this week had really that's like rocky rocky. Everything's gonna win. Like, it's just it's it's a weird thing. My partner said it's sort of a New England Patriots thing we're like Mercedes is so good. But what they feed off of is this idea of you can't rest, you're always being underestimated that you're always outgunned. You just gotta like scrap it out. And I is that is that why people think Mercedes is really struggling to keep pace with the Ferrari if that were the case these qualifies will be going different if not the race now. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Well, continuing misfortune, we we cut suddenly to danika fit and January Cardo of boy. Off the road into one of the escape areas. And we replay where Ricardo dives down the inside and locks up and has to bail, and that kind of causes Kaffee it to have to bail to like, none of them neither of the mix turn. But no damage, but then Ricardo hits the reverse. But and just plows right into Kaffee. It's floor in in Donny Dinero Cardo crash. I never thought I would see a scenario where Ricardo looked like the amateur driver and caveat was actually really smart. I could not believe how when he what he dove daddy inside. It seemed like a very optimistic overtaking. Strategy and caveat to his credit almost it kind of reminded me of remember when Massa crashed in Canada and Sabe somehow so him coming on the left. And turned in and just straightened up for a second while poss- Donnie in the same respect. I mean, he's obviously going to be looking in that way when he's when he's turning in. But he straightened out. And there was nothing. You could do we'd like he had to straighten out to not have regard ahead. And then he was kinda stuck where he was. But then it was I think in the moment Ricarda was so flustered. We're Wadia done. Does. He just he said he was never looked in mirror. Yeah. He says sorry, I didn't see him. And that was during the race. We didn't hear it. But that's in the radio replay on YouTube channel. But after the race he said, it was my mistake. And I'm sorry to the team into Daniel. It was a bit of urgency on my behalf, and I didn't think straight for a few seconds. So I have to take that one on the chin. He earns a three place grid penalty for the next race. Ricardo does and two penalty points on his license and both of them have to retire from this race did Ricardo go out the exit. Kiosks he his back of his car Rashad. But did you try to the pets? Or did. They both at any escape. They I think they both drove back to the pits. Okay. Yeah. Because it was very to see the cars boats stricken, but boat able to essentially do eighty percent of the locket. But it was so unfortunate because like again, retires doesn't finish and other boku. He's never finished an John. But this was not as fault at all like. Yeah. About for. Okay. Finally cleared. Does pit lap thirty five. Just when Horner said they would and comes up behind. Ghastly, just barely. We get some good defense from gasoline. But the cleric does get by in a few corners. I think let's see he's twenty seconds to Verstappen. So even if they. Had pitted him like a little bit earlier he stole it had a lot of ways to go. But I think you're right. If they would have pitted him many laps earlier things could have looked a lot of different. Unfortunately, four gas though, he does retire later or they wouldn't have put them at behind Ghazali yet. The of fresh tires on the last thing you want to be doing is fighting for position, right? Another bungle you're gonna be like it's like like, Shirley that wasn't the window point four seconds, right? Like in. They did a fairly good pitstop. But. Couldn't have done that alab earlier and not lost that whatever. All right too, much gasoline, retires driveshaft failure, which brings out the virtual safety car, which we've seen the virtual safety car. I think already the season just season maybe that was of F T race. But anyway, virtual safety car. No, physical safety car comes out. And you know, usually when the real safety car comes out everybody's stacks up behind that car. So they can slow everybody down. But instead the virtual safety car just it shows up on their dash reduce speed. And they have this took me a while to figure out when they first announced this thing because I thought it would like physically restrict how fast the car could go kind of like a formula E thing. But instead they have you can see this when they're racing or qualifying. They get updates about how they're doing on the lap every like hundred feet or so it's star delta between them and the car ahead rice. Yes. Or their delta between how they did on the last lap or something. I think I'm not sure of the mandate to maintain the interval or I know they have to reduce their lap time. So the left time has to be forty percent higher than it was. On the pre under race pace. That was the reduced speed forty percent, which means you need to be actually lapping forty percent higher over where. Slower. So you're monitoring that. I'm not sure you also then as long as you do that. I think you're good. So if somebody else screws up, and they're like, I better slow down. They go like sixty percent higher. I think they just lost that time. It's not a it's not as easy as a speed limit though. Like you have in the pit lane. It's quite an actual lap delta. But what I couldn't read my head around was that like they actually do have basically a real time. Indication on their dash of what their delta should be. So that's what they're looking at no one broken rules here under safety car. I don't think ritual safety car, but some people did take the opportunity to pit. Because when you when everyone else is going slower the pit of Beckley takes the same amount of time that normally does, but you lose less time to everybody else because they're going slow around the track mostly in the back of the field. Did that no-one front pitted? We did have an Email from Shiels this week as while it was asking the virtual safety car. We've answered most of the question, but the other part of it has just around it off was head is it benefits people not benefit other people. I guess one of the ways in which about if people would be if you're entering the sort of pitch area as the cold it's more advantageous to be able to come in immediately. Is that right? Right. 'cause you affectively are spending less time being slow. Yeah. And then you not only get that advantage. But you get new tires and you don't lose that under normal race conditions. You lose effectively twenty seconds in the pits, and that's pretty standard or twenty twenty five seconds standard throughout each of the races on the calendar. But you would only lose nine seconds under the safety car effect. Okay. And you'd get new new tires. The real safety cars. What's really interesting because? Leclair was twenty seconds behind for staffing. So if a real safety card come out he would restart the race like mere feet behind for Stanton. And give them a run for his money. And if you are this is why I was saying with the Friday strategy earlier, if if for instance, the you're thirty seconds ahead of the car behind you. Then it's essentially a free pitstop because you go in and get on new tires, but it's you'll get bunched up anyway. So if nobody overtakes you and even if somebody does overtake you if you're on fresh tyres the safety car pulls in and you're able to overtake ever behind you. It's just as well. But generally only more so as long as everyone else. Pitted ahead of you, a number of thirty or because then sometimes we got the situation where everyone pits on their safety. Carcass. It happened just as the window is opening and and then it's much of a bunch of. Yeah. So the commentator for thinking that maybe the medium tires we're going to be harder to restart with because they had cooled off so advantage. There would go to Claire who's now on the soft because he's on the opposite strategy, but he gets bogged down for some reason and loses a lot of time to for staff it on the restart. I think he's now twenty nine seconds after the re-start behind staff and. Happen. And curiously Hamilton also. Loses about two and a half seconds. And speaking of the dashboard and things like that race fan sunette has a quote from him. Regarding the virtual safety car restart. He says so that was my fault and something I'll work on. There's something there's some things on can fix on the dash to make sure that doesn't happen again boathouse confirmed that he and Hamilton used different configurations, quote, it's pretty similar, but between us there are some differences. We work with a personal electronics engineer. We work on starts and the dash those kinds of things I've been pleased with the information. And I think I managed to be close enough to the delta time under the it was a really important restart boathouse. His ex for menus. But Hamilton grow playing Japanese, PlayStation games. So he's a circle. Okay. And Saint forty-eight LeClair is so far. Well, he's behind Verstappen. We only have what three laps to go here that he's not gonna catch him. And he's so far in front of was behind him for stopping no behind him. I think it was pres-. I think he's so far ahead of him that he can pit put on new tires and then go for the fastest lap, which he does. And he gets it with some help from Berg whose break in the air in front of them. And kind of an interesting finish two laps from the end Hamilton gets within DRS range of BOTAS who actually hits traffic in front of them. But ultimately that turns into an advantage since George Russell, the backmarker gives BOTAS DRS. And Hamilton cannot get it done. Maybe he would have he hadn't lost two and a half seconds to boathouse under the virtual safety car. But redemption for BOTAS and another Mercedes one to not by the way in the history Formula one has ever gone gotten to one two's in the first four races history in the making. Meanwhile over in formula e we've now had ace races with age winners. Oh, my God the streak continues. Let me finish out the rest of the finishing positions. Here battle in third place and Verstappen in fourth those top four the same as the start of the race. Which is really not what I was expecting from go the Clare made up three positions to finish fifth right behind him Sergio Perez in sixth then we got signs Norris. Stroll up from thirteenth place and Reichen rounding out the top ten getting a point from the pit lane way to go Kimmy behind those guys Albain g-o-v nutsy Magnusson Hoke emberg Russell and Kubica gasoline Ricarda feet and grow John all DFT with a driveshaft failure from forget that reversing. Fiasco with Ricardo and and grow John went out with a break issue. I don't think we mentioned that. But I wish I never caught up what actually happened with Ricardo's the back of his car because I always unsure what a what because because it looked like the the lights in the back, the sort of recovery guy, those have gone, but I think diffuser was the main thing. Okay, right cre-. I don't believe or something. So that gives us championship changes here BOTAS jumps back up to first place with eighty seven points. Hamilton's got eighty six bettle is now back in third after jumping Verstappen. He's got fifty two points to step fifty one. It is real tight between those guys as well. Leclair's got forty seven Perez jumps up six places to be tied with Reichen and ghastly actually with thirteen points Norris in ninth twelve and Magnuson tenth with eight behind those guys signs Hobart and Ricardo are each tied with six signs getting on the board of this time. He was pointless before. Now, six points. Stroll has got four points album with three ca- feet with one and that leaves and Tony not see Russel bits and grow John with zero points. Before we get into news. Do quick little form of the two. Sure. Let me just run down the team standings apologies. Sorry. Mercedes way way out in front with one hundred seventy three points for our. He's got ninety nine and rebel with sixty four behind them. Mclaren with eighteen racing point with seventeen Alfa Romeo with thirteen Reynaud with twelve gene house and team heavy points. Screw TOTO with four AM still has volumes. I feel bad for Torah. So maybe more than Williams of this age four points. Mclaren no have at that. Yeah. That's for those who are just joining us this season or maybe last season McLaren and Williams were like. Two peas in pod, they were both really bad. So to see McLaren turn it around this year is Super Bowl. It's a nice fund bottle. I think emerging between race in point too strong. But even alpha mayo, I think are doing better than I was expecting. Oh, yeah. Let's not forget Sauver. How bad they were. It was a member of the years of like Sabir and cater them where the former back markers. What change for effectively starts building your car? Giving drivers. I dunno. I dunno. I thought it was a this race. Like, I was there for the battle tween us and Hamilton. There was they were. There was a minute there where they'll tear looked like he was really just going to open out one of those dominant like veteran style leads where okay he made the first two corners. And now we by him. And he goes wins this race in a walk health and never let go the back of him. Also, it seemed like the team was kind of Gresley trying to control the race paces because I think both of them had an inclination to drive on the tire life in the life of the tire strategy. So both in their first and their second stint. They were reminded that these things have to last for a while. So it's interesting because like you'd see like Hamilton just start like just taking huge Gouges out of time. And then both us would realize he'd start to open the gap up a little bit. But those last like half dozen laps where Hamilton closing in on both us again like just relentlessly getting closer and closer. It was. Was it was pretty tense and dramatic. And I was really curious. Did you guys watch the? After the interview in the winter circle. They all go upstairs into the green room. Whatever is. Yeah. Did you watch sequence? I usually do. But this time I baby duties so I had thrown away. What I did. Yeah. Oh, cool. Did you find the energy weird in that room? Yeah. Okay. I wouldn't have been surprised if you told me that like, you know, BOTAS dog ran away or something before the race just seemed kind of bummed out. Instead of just superpower it was strain Hamilton didn't exchange word. And then there's like Terry slams of Otto of water on the table. Like, yeah. No. We're definitely reading tea leaves here, Danny. But like if you wash this then live, it's it's weird. Like you compared like both us after Estrella. Yeah. Like, obviously overflowing. Just savoring in the moment. It is such a redemptive moment for him. It's such it's such an important moment. Here he is entirely reserved. He's not engaging with Hamilton at all said walks into the room. Also seems to feel like the energy is weird and tries to strike up conversation us just not really happening. I wouldn't have been surprised if you told me like that Hamilton had like had told here, I'm gonna kill your dog. And this this is the thing that I'm starting to wonder about. Hamilton is never had a good relationship with teammate who he viewed as an actual threat for like position or share like when there's a championship on the line Hamilton's record as a teammate is really bad. And that doesn't name. Yeah. Pretty much. There's only room for one. And I like if I if I think this championship in the offing, I will do whatever it takes friends. We're gonna teammates I'm gonna do whatever it takes to get there. And I think that was so intense that like you will never convince me that's not what Rosberg left the sport after winning championship. Right. You will never convince me that Nico Rosberg did not having reached the pinnacle of his profession realized that like rich hiring would be better than doing that. Again. Alonzo's career trajectory was altered by his encounter with Hamilton. As teammate. I think Hamilton got along with Jenson Button because I think Jenson Button was okay. Just going along for while. You know what I mean? Like, if if they're gonna championship contending car Jensen didn't really give shit like he'd be fine. He was gonna be fine with that. And I made the one year Jensen was in contention at the end. There was also like three other driver's side of their team who were in contention up until the final. Right. So it wasn't as if it was a two race at that stage sharing. That's so I look at this. And I do kind of wonder if this was the race where like I don't know Hamilton sort of put Veltri on notice that like look. It's on we're going to be using live ammo from here on out. And he said after he regretted being too friendly with them in the first I of course, what does that mean if not like next time like, you know, I'm gonna go Senna on your ass. Like, that's I think prevail. Terry. You have this moment to. They'll teary extensively wanted this. You know, he wants to be great driver. He wants to be having that season where he's where he's at the forefront. He's careers. Never been. He has to be all on hundred percent perfect every time right Williams. That is not the that is from well. Well, it Williams, but that's not the standard. That's not the pressure. You're under if you're Hamilton. You are fighting the Terminator like this is the thing. Teary led that race from beginning to end. But Hamilton was always there up until the very end if they'll tear Baba's one corner he loses that race. And I the weird thing is Helton lives there. He can do that roseburg's talked about this. He doesn't make those mistakes. He's good in every single stage, though, tears having a career year is taking everything within him. And he's e- hang out these wins against Hamilton. I mean Rostock was the same way. Yeah. I can't imagine skin of his teeth. You won that championship. Let's that's what it feels like. In my memory. And it's funny. It's funny having this conversation now because I remember having an exchange, rob, I think it was maybe three weeks ago where I was saying like, oh is this the new Hamilton is this because he's he's always so generous in press conferences about voluntary. Even when voluntary did things wrong, or whatever he was apologizing on his behalf or he was like supporting him and doing all this stuff. And then rob was saying like, well, we'll have to see well, like the gloves come off when when they start to have, you know, when it starts to be big boy time when it's not just, you know, mullet brother doing well. I'm trying to support him. But I'm the big brother. You know what I mean? Now, it's like, oh, they're they're off the table. Like a barring. I wonder because like what's interesting is like reminds me of the sort of like Weber vegtable red bull era right when they were championship contenders. But it was the rub between the two of them that starts to allow the competitor's behind them to Koch up. So I mean dream scenario this year is that we have a bit of the Mercedes maybe taking each other. The rights, but like just that tension. It's like it's like it's like the game of thrones thing, it's like the bottle. You're not watching as the one. That kills you in the end. Right. It's like if they're having a bit of entertain tension and suddenly the Ferrari start to to close that gap. A little bit LeClair has a has his redemptive arc just wanna point out here. This happened in two thousand sixteen when Rosberg was really making charge for the championship. And that's about this time was when the gloves started coming off. Spanish Grand Prix twenty sixteen. Collide, your rights. I laugh you remember out of the race. That is still V. Craziest driving. I've ever seen Louis doing why life? Yes. My they went up on the grass. I mean, Rosberg close at a bit Bush your rights gonna totally forgot about that. Yeah. I can I can link that that's a good. That's a good clip. This is looking forward to. I think what we saw yesterday about Terry realizing oh shit. I could do this. But yeah, one real is different than the dream. And I mean yesterday like Australia. It was great. This one is the okay you've reclaimed the championship lead from Lewis Hamilton opening act of the season is done. It's gonna be like this the way all the way on out you this'll be so much so much just saying then Rosberg as well because tasks has a head of steam like his bottles Reichen and in previous years. What I mean like last year he was kind of quiet because he was definitely the number two in that in that new car rush like. Oh, no. That's the point. That's a good point. He like he didn't think twice about giving Reichman the chrome horn as the same right? Like, I mean, he did not give shit. Yeah. Yeah. And the thing is this. He's done this against Hamilton Rosberg required. A little bit of luck to Amilton like Amilton got into trouble because there's mechanical failures he just some things went against him. And I think he knew Rosberg wanted to one that championship if not for some unfortunate swings for Hamilton. You can't say that about boats us is winning these these qualifying Dole's. Yeah. He's starting to win. These race tools. We're not seeing that gap. We're not seeing how Milton being winning a race by thirty seeing anyone winning a race by thirty seconds. That's what's so cool. Manish? I got a quote here from race fans dot net. Hamilton was asked to see or asked if he sees BOTAS as his main title title, rival, look fast. He changes the subject here. Hamilton says no it's far too early to say one person is the title rival, the Ferraris as I said this weekend it's pace in qualifying and practice both cars delivered as we deliver. It would've been a lot closer. We'll have to stay on our toes. Yep. Setting that up. I'm this season. Just keeps getting interesting. Speaking to be interesting seasons. You wanna give us a rundown of formula to what else Dutch into any? Yeah. I let me let me just what I'll do is a very quick primer for the other races Iran this weekend. Because actually don't want to ruin any of them the feature race performance to which is what happens I think before qualifying happens on Saturday. Anyway, was completely bizarre bananas multiple safety cars. Lots of instances, lots of overtaking. Interesting result the sprint race. I only watched the highlights of before we went live here. Similar multiple safety cars. Lots of crazy stuff going on on those. I turns as well. The formula eras was like comical. It was the second power CPR. And it was the first effort rain formula E, really. Oh, okay. Yes. Which was effectively like soaping up the track before those cars, I somehow only five cars didn't finish. But I feel like almost every car either missed a turn totally spun randomly or like eight a corner at some stage all had a weird son of gravity to right. Like, I was wondering the light and the handle strangely, and I can't measure it. Yeah. Like, don't they ran forty cars drift around corners? I don't think they're light. I think they're they gotta that huge battery. I think they've got a real low rear center, gravity, and they just they lumber do they do kind of like the kind of looked like everyone get those. We call them escape that tricks in Europe. I don't know what you call them. Your cars slot cars. You know when you change the top. On it. You just take the chassis and stick it on the plastic bit on top kind of rattles on the top. That's kind of what they're like. But it was. I mean it started under safety car on. It was not the last time we saw safety car. But even it was just any turn any car could go off and. Yeah. Like, I said there was the winner in as the races. And it just seemed like no one was safe at the front of the backer. Anything you should check it out. It was okay. They usually put up the the races. Like two weeks after they actually happen. But you watched a live the highlights are up. Now, I didn't watch life. But I watched it. I see. Yeah. I mean formula I watched the feature race of formula to I haven't seen this race yet. But you know, if you've never watched formula to some people ask us sometimes like what if what would happen if all the Formula one cars were exactly the same would win. That's what formula is all those cars are the same. And if you haven't F one TV subscription you can watch those races. Same with ESPN. You can watch them right in the app so yucky. Can you though? Apparently go for no, I just got. I got a grumpy message from friends who's trying to watch boku Sunday morning. And he was a boy's gonna be great day. And then if you miss letter, well looks like F one TV crashed the whole internet. So. Yeah, I don't like apparently it just completely like failed for everybody during Bucko. I had I did not know this happens until I saw the news piece. I didn't know something happens to everyone else because it did happen to me. But the bug I had was bizarre. It basically like it was acting as if I didn't have a subscription anymore. I was like, oh this was around this time last year when this launch. So maybe might twelve months runners like if I signed up right before the race, maybe might like twelve months clicked off because it was about five just kicked me off. I guess I wasn't that. But I subsequently like reupped on my subscription, which I don't know. It's it's not actually over for another like three or four weeks. I think so hopefully, I haven't been like I didn't just pay for an extra month for no reason. But it was crazy. I couldn't get log by log back in multiple browsers. I research -scribed see if that would help nothing seemed to work. So yeah, thankfully, I found other means of watching the race. But like it was it was bananas. Yeah. I mean, this is we really I don't recommend this. But this is why I have backups like this is why I still have a TV subscription that gets me the ESPN app. Right. I or a tab open f one streams on reddish. Race fans dot net has a quote here from f one TV we are very sorry for the problems. You have experienced with on TV today. We are still actively investigating the issue, and we'll be refunding proportion of subscriptions for those impacted over the coming days racing and says that users will be contacted via Email for details of how to receive the refund so watch your inbox, Danny. Yeah. We'll do. Oh boy. Speaking we didn't finish off the standings here in fantasy are fantasy league. Just check the. Show notes for how to join that. We got I think like fourteen hundred people in there, right? I am in four hundred fifty first place. Which I think move me way up because that's a big jump. I got. Props? Keep track at home. I see team. I look Claire Peres Verstappen BOTAS and Reichen and racing point. Okay. Claire stroll Reichen invo Thomas Norris. All my folks. I think were in the points for Ari as mine. So I didn't. All right. That was my best week by far cool who is your Bill Reichen? So I got twenty points for his he came tenth, right? Yes. He did. Yes. Think alike, but in the overall standings in our shift if one official fantasy leave we've gotten mock F one on top followed by alpha with emojis shunted tarantulas speed beast in fifth place is steering wheel. Hey, hey, give it to me move. Come on. Tied for six. We got Scuderi a Collier and LeClair bear flare in Hamilton's break. The system followed by dragon ball, GT and Mercedes all the way while really going out on a limb there. All right. That's what's going on in our Racing League. But should we get to other racing league's Danny? I'm sure I don't know what you mean. I already talked about Ray. It's bad. Yeah. You know, what I just discovered what gander mountain? Or gander outdoors sponsoring the trucks. Yes. Camping World truck. New name yet. They're called gander outdoors now, but they used to be called gander mountain. Awful gander. No, I wanna go again out. Yeah. Exactly Roco end live Santana shit like. The people are going to rivers like this mountain stuff. They're like God damn goddamn. We did to be more general, and I think that fits way better into gander mountain trail mix. So I'm gonna go with that. Okay. There at the Dover International Speedway for the jigs two hundred. Jags. How we spent a Jags J E G S, it appears to be an acronym. I don't know if you want if you wanna research that one Danny supercars are in Barbagallo raceway in narrow up a Western Australia, which that's just a lot of. Australian sound in words there for the per tech Perth super night race. Which is cool. Jags is a maybe only online retailer. I'm not sure, but they are a retailer of Jenkins. Car parts uneccessary is. Yeah. Hopefully, get your Jags Jennings w series kicks off this weekend in Hockenheim supporting DTM Vetter DTM to get this Celia started. The F a world endurance championships round seven takes place at spa for the six hours of spa. I think this is we haven't talked about WC. I don't think in a while. Because they're doing this weird thing where they have a super season that splits multiple years. So I think this is the restart begins. Lomb? That's I think that's how it works. Yeah. Soup GT round two is at Fuji speedway which factor. Let's see. Damage or sorry. There's so many. So Japanese addresses are weird and parsing witches them is the prefecture. You think I'd memorize them? All right now by now, I think it's this. She's awoke prefigure. Great one. So you've traveled a lot. What's the weirdest country for addresses? I think it's Japan. Oh, yeah. Because they're like. It's not by street number. It's like by building. And then by room, it's is really bizarre. Also, the im- im-. So whether tech championship is at mid Ohio for round four Moto GP is at the Circuito ahead. If for their round for the NHRA is at the Atlanta Dragway. For the it's in it's in commerce, Georgia, actually, it's not in Atlanta for the arby's southern nationals classic. And we're gonna Skar hours it, we're we're going through there. Also at the Dover international. Would you believe it I should be there and the extremity series is there as well? You know, I don't mention them too much. But they're they're doing the allied steel buildings two hundred Delaware is that. I think you you already know. And finally, the nest car the monster energy series of the big boys there reysen, guess what? The gander RV four hundred. Speaking of trucks. I think we all got tweeted this probably. There's a truck racing championship video game coming. I did see this. Yeah. T or C is a twelve trucks out a circus going to forty five kilometers each you can actually hear the air being broken. Yeah. It's not like, sonic, boom. I don't I don't know if it's not a Camping World truck thing. No. They're like semi trucks. Yeah. These are these are not pickups. These are like, yeah. They're hall hall and lumber when they're not on the track on the weekend. So check that one at coming at July random ran the time of the F one game is I guess fantastic. Well, speaking of fun links should we take it to emails, Danny? Yeah. Speaking of Japan, should we take it to Kimmy Reichen haiku book? Yes. Please. If you'd like to send us an Email, you can do so it shift F one podcast at g mail dot com. You can do it just like Ben Leonard did who said so you guys remember on. I did not for the record. But so you guys remember the mission winnow K me haiku book from last year, they sold a very limited run. I'm not a fan of giving money to cigarette companies. I don't think Ben knows that that mission. Winnow isn't a cigarette company. It's actually Boesch what's bad again lifestyle better tomorrow. Way using every company. Yeah. But he said so improving evolving that's at their website. Of course. Yeah. Through imbibing. Smoke didn't really try and buy one the but a few months later, motorsport dot com did a short reprints and the proceeds going towards the grand prix trust a non commercial chargeable organization. So I bought one when it finally came. I had a good laugh reading all the amazing haiku our beloved giving Roach. I thought it send a few picks of my favorites. So I have a few here. Thank you very much sentiment. We've went here called radio. Silence. Okay. Quiet radio very obvious. Things is not necessary. My reading this the right way is that you do I think so okay as a bunch here. So I gotta ask you guys to choose which one there's one called helmets or special his one, call phones phones. Always on silence. I don't like when it rings and people are calling. I think he broke the rules of haiku there. Maybe a little bit. And then the last one here on gonna go for is actually know here's a vote between asphalt's and minding opinions. Come on your opinions. Okay. Motivation to race. Nobody knows what I think apart from myself. The most Kimmy Reichen thing I've ever heard. Yeah. So I guess you can't pick that one off. I actually going to be one more. This one's can print it sideways, which is why I'm creating my neck like this gentleman normal. This one's called if we all feel normal than all, my friends are also not normal. Will Chemi Reichen. It's like a lemon layers. So it alumnus note. Notably layered fruit, the lemon. Next comes in from Gracie. Langa all rich energy got a couple of these actually you guys probably already know about this. But since the release of the article on rich energy, they have started selling cases of it on their website. Strip club. Yeah. So I guess if the whole. Coast doesn't come through. I just went to the website and got a pop up saying, this is an age restricted product. Is this trip? You love to be over sixteen. I'm not sure if sixteen is the strip club feel Twenty-one is the strip club age in Europe as well. I so I don't know what sixteen gambling. Maybe I'm very, no. I don't know what you could buy case of rich energy for thirty pounds, sterling. Well, how much is that in America donors, God the UK is not starting to two dollars? I think. Yeah. That would Santa right before. Maybe let's see what it's like in for yet. Thirty eight bucks thirty twenty four pack twenty four. That's not bad. Yeah. James like, it might be a really good deal. If like rob said last time, it is the Rosie of the gods. Maybe this could just be our new life. Like, we we discover that like just only the best brands back f one teams, and everyone is just out there. Living among the windows and living guys. Does it make sense to skip Email number four then? Yeah. Actually, you read my mind. One. Sends an Email with the title weird sponsors, he says, so what about husky chocolate, which instantly? I was just compelled to read the rest. They seem to have a limited distribution that basically sells quote unquote adventure. Chocolate milk around what adventure chocolate milk chocolate milk. And they sell hot chocolate mix restaurants and hotels. I guess I found a ski resort in Vermont that has a husky chocolate hot cocoa machine in their cafeteria. But this doesn't seem to be large enough to buy an entire rear wing decal Calum McLaren car. So I wonder if this is a semi-legitimate front for something else. Your quest to get blue coast brewing product, really got me curious about all this stuff. Now, I am curious. So wait, this talks there. Adventure? Chocolate milk. Can't be thing. You can't sort of business. You you not run enough one team off of adventure. Chocolate milk. Okay. I'm on the husky chocolate homepage. And this is I think this was the red flag when it came to rich energy, which was that the first thing we saw was a reference to form into one when he went to the website. The pop up on the front of husky Chaka is breaking news is all cops husky chocolate signed sponsorship agreement with McLaren f one team read more here, which links to. Which which links to a fantastic picture, which I think might be the going to try and get to you. It might be the the picture we use for for the thumbnail this week. I think. Drew have you seen it? If you go to send the link to you guys. Kurla sons, please, sir. I'd like some more. This gritty HBO show. This is husky chocolates the died of it. Also looks like it's Photoshop Tom to the Cup. I might be wrong. Yeah. There's a red cub. Yeah. Yeah. Here's a here's a quote from Zach Brad chief executive racing. We're pleased have husky chocolate on board, but our team and support the company and there I'm bishops plans by introducing them to our global sport out of court to enjoying drink together at track and sharing our adventure with our new partners. Boy. Yeah, I wonder all right. So is it because we've never heard of any of these brands in is because they don't advertise. This is this is their advertising budget as as we've sort of talked about last week. It does seem like a kind of way word advertising policy just to go for the elephants. Father would any sort of you know, really got an going hit in the fences on this one. I guess like rich energy is like trying to use this as a springboard, right? If we believe everything that he says. I'm on the Carla's car, Carl Carla's car Linas. No, Linus Weisman. Who was the owner? I'm on Instagram. I've I've gone deep on this. I think he's German are maybe not. But it's there's a lotta pictures of him. Just hanging it in the McLaren garbage. So he might just be another rich guy who wants to wants to hang around f one cars. Ingredients. Semi-skimmed milk. All right. So it's not just chocolate drink milk sugar fat reduced. Okay. No. That's fine. That's all fine versus milk, drink chocolate taste, and I was a little concerned. Because this you I don't want. None of that. Yeah. I just want you. Yeah. That is I didn't realize that adventure. Chocolate was a thing. But now, I must have it. Now all the rest of the chocolate drink own seem so unadventurous. So the blue coast thing doesn't work out. We we now have rich energy and husky chocolates to to enjoy. Should I do? I last Email. It's been a raise Email these have been these emails have been rough on my stomach, my general abdomen. Just getting a bit of a work at fa math at the mall. E mail comes in from Daniel Westphal, spelt FAA. It's fantastic. Especially if you play world of warcraft that sounds interest- does he's the most adventures emailer this week. Sorry. What? Hi there having been enticed by Netflix series. We've actually which is really cool. Welcome learning as much as I kind of at the sport with the help of your podcast and watch some of the qualifying and races. After watching if you races, it becomes increasingly apparent tire selection. Pits up strategy are super portent. What's your prizes me is how tire selection and fitting strategies comb across as driven by intuition slash superstition, particularly for furry as what they did. With LeClair at Baku is mystifying. I would expect that these teams would be using learning. Sorry machine. Learning capabilities to optimize these choices you could feed today to model which are historically formation of track and air tempts tire. Life compound, cartooning, competitor, struts, and ultimately outcomes. And the computer could look at this complicated, multi. National model suggest an optimal strategy perhaps. Even more powerful would be debility to use cloud computing to rerun the model quarter vase the race when you know, your position and the opposing team's opening strategies in terms of tyre selection. Do you know of any such technology is employed by these teams is it regulated by government body? So we've talked a bit about the Ramoche teams enough one which are regulated in some capacity, which is a lot of the largest. I mean every team has a maybe not every team. Actually, I'm not sure if HAMAs for instance, but most of the teams onto the big teams have big departments at their headquarters that are running. I'm not sure if it's models, but they're doing some sort of electrical simulations to figure out optimal strategy. And then they're phoning that stuff into the pit wall, which is then sort of making the coal on the track based on that data and also based on other ailments that are going on says the rooms look like mission control at NASA or something. Crazy, and they it's not just a phone call. It's like a like, they don't even run across the regular internet. I think it's like a special internet just for this kind of stuff because they're sending gigs of data back and forth. But you're right. I think they're only teams are only allowed. I think like sixty personnel at the track. And I think in even more limited number like in the garage and on the pit wall. So that's Linda, and I think they're planning on limiting the number of people at a remote site as well. But I don't know if those regulations have come up I thought that came in last year really thought was that was one of the regulations that they put something on Sahra. So I think there's a couple of things that this Email like there limitations, though, are you with this? First of all, I don't think these teams understand the Parrella tires as well as they would like, I think parolees handing them things that they do you. Remember, the the underplayed element of Ferrari? Was dumb an era. Under Schumacher was that they had such a close relationship with Bridgestone to the point that other teams were getting pissed that like bridged on providing teams, but Bridgestone only had technical wraps and like a data center working out of the back of the Ferrari pit lane. That was like literally thing that Bridgestone's like technical team, and researchers were basically sharing office space with Ferrari, and this is one of the reasons that people start going Michelin because it was clear that Bridgestone was favoring for Ari. Ferrari had the best understanding of tire wear and strategy because of that relationship that nobody else could compete with and all that kind of goes away when it's like mich- Michelin bridgeton, all this kind of gets blown away parolee is sort of brought in and they're kind of team agnostic. And as I think, I don't know who it was saying this, you know, they're really kind of focusing on the top three teams. But even then because of relations for how the tires can be. Structed and the fact that I don't think they work as closely with the individual teams, the Bridgestone did I think both parolee from the standpoint of developing new tires every year. And then the and the teams are both flying a little with a little less information about how tires going to perform, then you might guess. And so I think there's a lot of like buck who's a really interesting case there changeable conditions. You have what portions of the track are getting light. What is what is the air temperature? There's a lot of variables here that you wouldn't have known to account for. And then there is the element of other teams are making decisions that are changing the running order and physical placement of cars on the track. You do not have time to run that back to the team and have them crunch it and then get the right answer back to you. And so once again despite the data. I don't think so think about if you're in the pit window and somebody goes for undercut, you have a minute and forty seconds to figure out if you're going to answer that like and might be the model like the model might be. There might be people can give you advice, but you have a minute and forty seconds to make that strategy. Call and other teams are doing things as well. That is it doesn't matter. If you have like like a supercomputer backing you up with data driven options. You are still limited by your intuition and read about other people's intent about things that you can't feed in the machine yet. And so I think this is I think that's that's where the crunch. There's a lot of data you can get. But I think this is why you still see these these mistakes happen. Why you still see what you call superstition at a certain point. You have to just be looking at what other teams are going with and thinking. I think I need track placement. I think this gets me what I need and. Yeah, I think it I it's actually something I really really like about Formula one is that you you do have like this. You know, even if we assume that the computer is all knowing that the data is all in real time. At the end of the day. It can only make suggestion like a human has to be on the ground and make a call that either goes with what the computer says or not. I think that you know that kind of extends to. A lot of other facets Formula one, right? Like we develop these cars in wind tunnels and computer generated models and stuff at at the end of the day. You have to put that thing on a track and press, the gas pedal and still make it go around and sometimes cars crash into each other and things happen, and you still have to make those decisions. So. Yeah. I. One of the reasons I like the sport. And when it comes to this specific instance, I guess the their referring to in where this I guess question sort of came from perhaps is the whole LeClair issue where I'm the Commodores very much talking about. Oh, it looks like wired. They bring him in all this sort of stuff is that the other element of this is that like outside of, you know, it's the human psychology of risk taking and of like chancing your arm or of hoping something happens that like those decisions that we go, maybe not the optimal. This is in the optimal isn't necessarily the median decision, but in in one of the paradigm that kind of is that like sometimes the best decision seems like the worst decision for a long time up until it's the best decision. So for instance, if LeClair was that whole time and how to got behind him and insulting safety gar happens. Happy days. He's in the pits. He's out again. With fresh tires so open till the point when that happens, that's not the optimal strategy. But there there's all those sort of many stories that are happening as well. You know, there's the human psychology element where you're like. Oh, like that could be no k decision, but maybe we'll selves here, and we'll end up with a even better decision. And those are decisions we all remember as well. You know? Yeah. And hindsight is always twenty twenty. Yeah. Totally. Yeah. Again, if you like to Email us, you can do so at shift of podcast dot com. You can also follow us on Twitter at shift. F one podcast. I'm address Scanlon Danny that Donnie owed to wire and we're up Zac me. And if you'd like to support the show, you can do so at patriot dot com slash shift F one where you can get access to all of our bonus, podcast episodes and videos that will be doing got some fun stuff coming up in the next few weeks on that. Yeah. Anything else, Danny? No, thanks so much everyone for supporting us for this month. It's been awesome. Where we're on the. We'll get the beer. We'll figure it out. We'll try and make it happen. The gears turning already. Yeah. I'm more stuff coming X month. Thanks soul artists as well. This was a fun. I like doing these two podcast. I like doing the podcast every week. This was like we got to really talk about stuff in this. When we weren't just like, you know, trying to cram a whole bunch of stuff into one guy. So this is fun of looking forward to the rest of the season. Rob. Same. You're doing your life street. Right. Yeah. So this weekend. This week actually over at way point we're doing a are half of it as thirty six hour charity marathon stream, and then our Montaigne is taking over the next thirty six hours. So from noon Thursday to noon Sunday over on twitch dot TV slash way point. We're going to be running HR stream for the trans lifeline also raises money for a crisis. Call center for transpeople endanger and also provides. Support with dealing with legal documentation services things of that nature as well as trans people who are currently incarcerated and dealing with issues in the in the prison system. 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08 Our Missional Journey

Beavercreek Christian Church

36:37 min | 2 years ago

08 Our Missional Journey

"Welcome to the beaver creek Christian church podcast. This is the audio archive of our migration to emission movement. We do this week to come alongside you as we take this journey together. Because we want you to always remember we're on the journey with you everybody walking back to this podcast with beaver creek Christian church. I'm in the room again with Chris McClure and Ed green. And I am Stu shetler. If you hadn't figured out my voice by now. Today, we are entering into a new series. We had been talking about Luke and all y'all, and we we we we connected it to our sermon series. Now, we're start into a different series. It's not going to necessarily be connected to our sermon series. But it's going to start telling you about a bit about who BCC is we're going to start telling stories, and and laying some groundwork for you you to see really the vision of who we are BCC. And so today, we're going to be talking about this weird word a word. You may have never heard of Eva Ritter thinks I made it up shot up to Asia. But I promise you it's been around for at least three decades the best. We can tell the word is mission. You're going to hear if you haven't heard us say that before you will hear say it a lot more and you'll be familiar with it. It's a term that we're gonna we're gonna play with. We're gonna talk about. And it is connected to being a missionary as you as you can probably deduct so so as we go into into this. I wanted to find mission will rook, and then I want us we're going to we're going to talk about it. So most people defined mission will as living your life as if you were a missionary. Several years ago an Anglican priest came back from the mission field, and he and he noticed that the priests and the pastors and the Anglican church in England were not living life as a missionary. And he said, well, what would things be like if we started living as missionaries do in our own homes in our home villages in our own towns. What would it look like what would it be like, and and it began to make them think differently because it is different from what we would we would call attraction all attraction will being have a worship service. Put all the invites out ask people to come and new drama in with your programming. And with the things that you do. Well, you're teaching your worship all that stuff and people come and that serves Christianity. I mean, a lot of people who've come to Jesus know Jesus that way, maybe you grew up on that way. I did. But then we started thinking, well, what would life be like if we started living as missionaries wherever we are. Whether it's our neighborhood. Whether it's our our kids ball team, or the, you know participating in the clubs and PTA's and stuff and their families involved with or maybe even a workplace, right? And so we started trying to define that for ourselves. We're trying to help define that for BCC. So there we are little definition. And what are you? What are you guys? What's your been in Europe counter with Michelle for me at you're talking about this at my mind's going back to when we lived in Georgia before moved here to Hieaux the community around the church that our family was a part of started to really change into more of an international community. And if you know anything about Lanta, I mean, it's kind of been this melting pot that continues to grow, and, you know, lots of different nations and lots of different just communities, and and in our church found itself for going from this really kind of a rural white middle-class community in the town that was in two now being in this, very international based community, and and the church should know what to do about it. You know, we didn't we didn't. We didn't handle it. Well, in the sense that it was I don't think we have that poorly. But I just don't think we. We handed it. Well, and so I got to thinking about this idea. Well, what is normally missionaries go to a place to learn the kosher. Well, what happens when the culture comes to you? And you have to learn the culture, it's you're still learning to culture. You're so learning about the people, and I and I think that I started really think back then and it's carried over Nisa. So now we're talking ten plus years ago that this really started. You know, bubble up in my mind is what does the missionary? Do. We'll Mr. goes to a place. Traditionally and studies the culture studies the language learns about the economy learns about how where do you find, you know, food clothing housing, all these things, right? You you're going to this foreign place. And so I started they will, you know, are we studying the people that we now have in our community and people like that people were really they weren't embracing what we really have we had an opportunity to to connect with people. And so we tried programs. We tried things to draw out of their neighborhoods and come come visit us, but the problem was we were still this white middle-class church. Yeah. Family, and it was a great church family. But it wasn't. But it, but they just didn't connect because we were trying to get people to come from their culture into our culture, and they rent concede rather than us connecting with. Them. And so see the big it is. And so I think that that was kind of the beginning of my journey, you know, and and then I started to continue to God use that as a beginning point for me to really think about what is what is this mission living. Look like, no matter what which community because then we moved here to you know, vivere Karekin we found ourselves on the soccer fields and baseball fields. And you know, what the cheerleading squads and all these things and now our families involved in. And and what does it mean to live as a missionary in those places? Wasn't too. Have to play around with the understanding on a couple of different levels. One Michels almost a buzzword these days, it is huge and become. It's one of those words that some people even talking about we need to stop using it because has it has lost its maintenance because you know, for instance, if you have a mission statement church waiver does that mean your mission. All right. Well, you know, I I if you would ask any pastor, you are you anti-missile? No, no, one would say, no, you can't really say particular church organization. Whatever is Michigan unless you know. So you can play around definitions a little bit. But you talking about Chris about one year of your culture comes to you will almost already embedded in culture. Right. You know, I think a lot since we still think in terms, it's a foreign concept as to even consider that I can actually be emission airy a missionary to the coach words have already part. Like, you said on soccer fields. Baseball fields, Pete, PTO, whatever, you know. And you. You guys know for for several years. I was out. I was outside of vocational ministry for, you know, seven eight years, and so I ended up working at a company called gander mountain, which is no longer around the put this put them out of business. So, but but I've been in in vocational ministry for almost twenty years not. So when I stepped out of that room and stepped into the marketplace just as a as a non vocational a non-professional Christian. You always get paid to Christian. So I had navigate what does that really mean? Right. Was it looked like for me? And I don't know if I fully got a handle on that. Because I I struggle with that for him. But you know, so what does that mean for me to be a a supervisor again or mountain doesn't mean I bring my big old King James bible beeping heading with it, you know, unless break hope, not no, no. So hot figure, how do I live life? Like an acid supervisor as a co worker with these people as a good employee. You know, so I struggle with that and trying to figure out what does it look like for me to do that? So nothing about another, you know, trying to figure. Okay. Like, again, how much how do I because I'm not into Vangelis at heart. That's not my gifting, but I can't use as an excuse because probably called to be Representative of Jesus and the light wherever we are and speak where the spirit opens opportunities for us and think I did that time but other times I'm by might have missed opportunities because I didn't think myself as as missionary of being Michigan. And I think that's a good point though, is it's it's really just are thinking, it, it isn't even about where we go. We can go elsewhere as missionaries for sure we have we support. And we, you know, we champion global mission says a church, but. Where we often miss it as we don't train people to think like missionaries thing in the local church, not just BCC, but you know, most local churches, right? Don't train people to think like missionaries wherever they're going. So whether it is your specific neighborhood or my wife being a teacher, you know, what does it look like to be a missionary as a teacher in a school was students and faculty around her. You know, what does it look like my kids? You know, what has to be missionary as a soccer player baseball player cheerleader wherever we are. You know, as a business person as a parent, whatever. We don't we. That's I think where the church has missed it for years. And I think it's because a lot of it is because. For us. We came out of bible colleges, and you know, into our vocational ministry jobs. We love, you know, doing the ministry that got his pulled us to bud. There's been even bowel colleges. There's this. You tr- you go down this missionary track. Or you go down this church minister pastor track, and they look different. And they'd look at totally different. And so we're not trained. If you're going to be local church pastor or you're not trained to emits Yala. Judy of studying how to be a missionary the way that the missionary, you know, students were and if those two things were really brought together. It's not one in place of the other Trillium merging the two because missionaries need to. Be trained to you know, lead at a local context church context too. But but I think people probably get that more because they were raised up in it. And they understand that they've seen it. Whereas most of us weren't raised up in a missionary culture inside is, you know, some people coming from missionary families would get it. But that's a very small number yet. Remember, remember defining the first time I'd worked at a church in Indiana for about five years were there. And when I when I walked in. I was twenty four twenty four twenty five and the guy was working with was just a year ahead of me. And he was just you're older than me we'd actually gone to college together. And so I walked in. And I said so what's to do? Here is just you know, you're going to be the preacher. I'm going to be youth minister it he's like, yeah. That's the way it's going to be he's, but I think you need to go coach football. Like, why should I go coach football? He's just because I coached baseball. And this place is centered around the local school is this is a bedroom community for different places, and they and everybody goes to work somewhere else. But then they come home here. And he says so the school becomes the hub. And he says if you want to really get to know the people go to the school. I was like, okay. And I was super reluctant because I was like, but I've got to build this program. And I've got to do this youth group, and I've got a hatchet strain. Right. And he's like, no he's like I'm going to be. He says if I have to pull the boss card on you. I'm going to do it. And your first objective is to go talk to the football coach. And I'm like. And I honestly reluctantly what talk to the football coach. It was like all right. Our went down and talk to him and the football coach looked at me like a third. I he's like you want to do what I said, I wanna come and volunteer to be a football coach for free, and I won't be paid. And he goes you don't want. What I don't get that said, I know, but Brian I mean, he goes. Oh, okay. And because he had been a baseball coach and known by though, they've got it. And they're like sure so you can coach our freshmen would you be on the I've got two other guys that are willing to do if you join them. We'll have a good freshman team. I'm like sure did begin to coach football and has coach football the doors began to open for me and coaching freshman basketball, coach track for Lewa this talk to throw the shot and discus not sprinting, no spreading I should try to hijack and they're like really stupid. Was really running into the bar. Limbo? Who so much? It was isn't. That'd be a so much fun for me because I was able to exercise some stuff in my. You know, in in my mission will in the Mishel bones that I had that I didn't know I had. But the the really the really cool part of it was then opened the door to me. I would be a substitute teacher. And I got to know all these coaches got get to know different parents. And the best compliment I got I this is where it kind of culminated for me. This is what I began to define it differently. I didn't know the word will. But I knew ministry was different. When when I was a after school one day, I was on the gym floor. I'd been a substitute teacher for the PE teacher that day I was on the gym floor. And I just playing a pick up game of Twenty-one with a couple of guys that I had coached on the football team. Right. And we're sitting there playing and one of the kids was in the youth group and wasn't and we're just playing you know, playing ball. And and the kid Brandon who was in our youth group says something to me about church or says something to me about, you know, his dad was a deacon, you know, something about that. And this guy looked at me goes Steuer. You pastor her hose like, yeah. He goes, you're the coolest pastor I've ever met. Yes. Never arrive. Abused the twenty something he go done. Really the point was is that I had I become part of the culture. You know? I'd become part of the school culture. I'd become harder. What's going on? And I was able to speak. Good news in Denver tragedies that happened at that school that they came to me and asked me as I remember walking into a funeral one of a kid who was who had died at twenty years old and the football the atheist football coach walks up to me and hugs me. Start crying says what do we do? Now. What do we do? Now. I was like. Here's the good news. What's interesting? When you talk about that story is how we've I think we've accepted the Michelle thing in youth ministry, and actually even I know I've worked with senior pastors where that wasn't expected, you know, thing to whereas like, yeah, you go the high school games. You you go. You know, I was telling me the other day about hanging out at the the just in the infield up track meets and things connected with kids or whatever. And. You know and go into the football games baseball game lot swim. Meet some whatever it is. That was like an an expectation for youth ministry to, but we haven't really thought about that so much from the adult side of grief. You know? Yes. That terms of the big key. That's doing telling your story. But is there ships you're building? Yeah. Yeah. So it really that really plays with our idea of what church is all about what it means to be mission. All you know, kind of thing because you talked earlier about the the the the distinction between attraction oil in Michigan, you know, a traditional attraction church, or at least a thinking that. I think a lot of people. We just we adopt by we assume it just the way the way we like a default. You know, is it we might invite our neighbors or whatever we again but charge and then turn them over to the pastor's readily leaders who can do do their thing. You know, two men are job is to get church. And so the Mitchell thing reflected on. On on his end and says, no, I I'm actually here with people. I'm I'm building relationships with them. And so it's not necessarily my pastor job or the deacons Jabber the Ehlers job to help them along it. It's it's because of my relationship I have with him one of the things that kind of revolution. My revolution. My thinking on that, you know, several years ago, and Chris you mentioned I did good. Oh, Bob, college one of the books, we had to read and actually it was for missions class was what's gone wrong with the harvest by guiding angle, and he and he revolutionized, you know, we we want to get people to church. So the pastor can help them become a Christian Catholic. But Ingle he came with this scale, and we're familiar with it, it just it's more help people figure out what somebody's next step might be. You know, so my job with my neighbors with my co workers, it isn't necessarily get you know, I I can't convert them. Anyway, that's that's just you know, but through my relationship with him. How can I help? Take the next step whatever that makes that might be for them. Yeah. So and again revolutionize things for me. Because like, I should I'm not an evangelist. And so for for years and years, I felt as a pastor felt guilty about that. Evangelist pastor yoga your preacher game to be, you know, and I'm not, you know, so so in a way, this is freeing for me to think I can be myself. I need it live is open. You know, following the spirits lead and things, but it's not my job to get someone cross the line of faith just to come alongside them eleven high of Reich can and God's going to open up those opportunities. And that's even think too, you know, because I was saying Lima taking the personal vandalism class in college and your source ago. I mean, one of our scientists was literally like going knocking on doors. Like gosh. Like, I was petrified because it wasn't. That's that view that understand what an evangelist does is so far for me. But yet as I've gotten over matured and understood, you know, I understand I've got a shepherding gift. But now, I'm seeing more and more. I I may shepherding evangelist pride in how I interact with the community with where I am. Because I am taking the good news. I am being the good news and showing the love of Christ to my neighbors to you know, the families that we connect with an our community. But I'm out there from an affirmative Vange Listrik mindset, but I'm also shepherding the, you know carrying for their needs. And it's that's where you know, watch us as a family even have people responding to that because they don't care. They're not coming to church on Sunday. Maybe but they're asking us to be praying for them or even my wife. I mean, she's been on. I've won't wash. Her from a distance over there on the side of a soccer sideline praying for a friend who's crying because her husband had some major issues going on and then ultimately passed away. Unfortunately, very young. And and you know, gills out there, you know, praying and ministering to this person. And I was and that person that conversation started I was sitting next to her and are folding chairs on the sidelines, and she searches kind of unloading life about all the struggles that angle, and I didn't know where that well yet if she ended up being a good becoming a good friend of ours. But I didn't know where that will yet. But there was something about their inner she felt that there it was safe. You know, that you understood that we were believers, and and so that once again, it's it's been as progressive thing. I've seen God opened. My eyes are is to what this looks like. So you said some of being the good news. So there's a difference between telling the good news and being the good news, but they can come coincide with each other. And somebody obviously. If you've done something strange as prey on the side of the soccer field with somebody. There's somebody there who's gonna go. What were you doing that? And so obviously, you say that the news, you know, you you look so peculiar that people go, oh what's going on in? You could say something why follows got him Jesus. And this is what he's taught me. And we were just trying to find comfort for friend. Right. But then the other side of that is you be the good news being the good news is preying on the sideline or, you know, figuring out what it means to tell my friend, take the next step. So here's here's the here's the big clincher question. I think that a lot of people may be asking at this point. Okay. We're trained professional Christians. Right. And we get paid to be Christians. Right. And so we've we've been taught the the cycling, techniques and different things. But so so the role of the church begins to change if it's not to attract people, right? Right. It's to help them become confident and have the resources they need that we have been educated in if I'm saying this, right? So so in your all from Urals perspective, what are some of the resources, how do we resource? How do we want to resource people? So that they can wherever they are where the twerk whether it's soccer field, whether it's their neighborhood or in their family. You know, what how can we resource to help them be the good news? Why I think and and at a leave the teaching side is maybe to you. Because I'm sure you have ideas. But, but for me, I think that modeling it is is really important, you know, and also Frank reframing what happens here when we do gather together in a building. Now, we call a charge, you know, in our culture instead of being a bringing center, whereas sending center, you know, we're we're know we are training to send out, you know. I've I've often thought about that is what does it look like that? Yes, we come in here, and we worship together. And we celebrate with God's doing among us and through us. But but what if we looked at this is a minute missionary training? You know, building that people come here. We we equip and we prepare right? I mean, that's where I think the teaching element come into play. But but even beyond that or maybe before that or simultaneous prior together. But just as idea that we need models. You know? So I think a lot of it is we need stories. You know, that's one thing we talked about we need to understand and share stories about how people are doing this because I know. Me when I see somebody doing this all of a sudden I start to go while I I could do that. Or maybe minded, maybe my maybe my way of Michele living, isn't that? But it gets my creative juices flowing to think what does that look like for me. Yeah. So for me right now just because of the season of life. I talked a lot about soccer and baseball, and you know, that side of things because that's where our family is. But you know, in a decade our kids are grown out of the house star. Joe you're not gonna be happy to hear that, you know. But they will our kids will be out of the house, and that changes what mission looks like for us. You know, because of won't be through the schools won't be through a kid, sports, whatever it will be different. And so so I think different life stages different. You know, situations for sure, but, but we models, you know. So I think we need to show people. You know, when we see a Kevin Bevan, for instance, flirt, low monkey and go look at what Kevin's don't. He sees his heart for for for the ORF. Opens and the widows that scripture tells us to care for and he's grid nonprofit to connect people through the to the need. You know, you know, we we're going to be sharing an interview with appeal with the refugee minister, but we have you know, we keep trying to bring this up to the surface because we need models to get the creativity flowing because I think still you price at the most lately is we we don't have an imagination for this. Because it's not been what we've seen. I think it's true too. I'm gonna I'm gonna hit check on what you said, Chris. It's you one thing. I was thinking about when you're talking was is an early Roman end first century in the second century, maybe but he's sending a letter to the to the emperor. And he's kind of invest you the Christians because they're they're concerned about the Christians and one thing he says about them as behold how they love one another. And I was thinking about how can we resource and help our church is first of all, I guess we an model, but we start loving each other within the family because apparently that that in our at our every culture, pride in our culture when people really see love it stands out, you know, so may start there. But then just how can we live a life of love everywhere, we go ever Dallas Willard says, you know, taking these ample Jesus he says why don't we in? He said it's time you'd know any churches, but why? Why are we having class? I love our enemies you. That's geez, too. Seriously said yes, it's not just enough to love your friends you and that's kind of scary. So figuring out how church we can do stuff. Like that yet? I'm all for teaching the content of scripture in shaping our perspectives and worldviews those are all very very important. But it they they've got to have a practical outcome of how I live my life from Monday through Saturday. Right. You know, what I'm what I work faced with a boss who is uncompromising and downright mean at times or a soccer field helping someone who's going through a really rough time. So how do I do that? So MAs as part of it have different kind of mindset. But but then just practical living in out. You know, we we we have begun trying to program do this program. I don't want to call the program because it's not, but it, but so we have a bridge word to use it. We try to do is an initiative to have people disciple each other because that's why we keep talking about the cycle ship. That's what we keep talking about. Intentional discipleship between people because what it does is. It gives you a class on. How how do you love your neighbor? You know, it begins to I can see God in the midst of this uncompromising boss or on the sire phil- or the hard parenting that I have to do because my kids are driving me nuts, or I can't figure out where they're going right now, it it becomes an opportunity for us to hear God in the midst of it. And so when we're walking together, and we're going, okay. So what's God saying there, and how are you going to respond? Are you an act what you're going to do about that gives us a basis for that's what we keep talking about discipleship so much because if I can't figure it out right, which is going to be non point five, you know, five times out of ten another figure it out. I need somebody that could come to a Nissan, but I can talk to I have a mentor. You guys have mentor. We have each other. We talk to you know, you know, I've come to you guys before and said, you know, my kid this. And you know, Madison or Abby that or I'm struggling with this this situation with with someone how to handle this. And listen to you guys. I listen to my wife, and listen to the people around me, I go, oh, I've invited you in my life because your disciple in me. And it helps me take the next step so living out the good news become becomes an extension of my life. Because I'm trying to live a posture of love I'm trying to live a posture of humility and go, oh, this is what it means my imagination if you will set Chris begins to expand and it begins to go. Oh, I can handle this in a different way. I can approach this with mercy and grace and love and not with a retaliate. And or or I got to avoid you know, where I've gotta just fix it. You know, it gives me that gives me that space a one thing that hit me as I start my coaching and trained business, and you know, I started looking at my clients differently. Recently been was just they they are my flock under the Jews is giving me to her four into know on praying for them specifically, I'm and I'm walking through real time challenge them. But even I think about last night, you know, I'm sitting at a baseball game was with Evan. And and I'm looking at you at twelve boys on this team, and one of the assistant coaches or coaches on his team, and I feel responsible to to model, you know, to not just to the kids, but to to the coaches that I'm working with and and building those relationships and caring for them. And it's more than just, you know, fundamentals of baseball, right? It is it's life, and you know, not that something specifically happened yet. But there could come a day where something happens in a family where we have to navigate that. And and we're close to because it's a team, and we were part of it. So I think that a lot of it. Is just that. It's I think when you don't you think that students we think of discipleship traditionally as classes and yesterday teaching component for sure but go back to what you said you'd have for me. I am the practical simple guy. You know, if I don't study the the logical books and everything because it's way above my head a lot of time. But but I respect those of you who do and can teach me and help me navigate that stuff. But it always comes down to what is what does it mean in practical round for? So even you know, even if I'm studying something hard, I want to go. Okay. We'll how does this apply tomorrow to my life? And how can I pass this onto somebody else? And I think that's it. You know, it's it's what I don't think that our people as a church family understand how much they bring to the table. The do they can do this. And so it's yes as leaders in the church, we have a responsibility to help equip and train. But there is a there is, you know, when we think of this our ages, there's hundreds and hundreds of years of of of knowledge and experiences church family that we can offer each other that it has nothing to do with the staff or being an elder or being a minister leader hunger, or whatever some kind we can we this. That's the mutual disciple. Ing every that we're talking about in terms of the. Again, you're talking I was thinking about our church in particular. But any you know believes it was just a great untapped resource. You know that we're in this together, we're not alone. And I can learn Stu, I can learn from you how you've learned to listen to the spirit and be be opened afternoons at UC around you. And it's one of the great things that you know, as far as teaching, but signed thing relationship is trying to figure out, you know, because I think all of us here the spirit a little bit differently, right and have followed that right? But, but we're exposed even the possibility God speaks in some way, shape or form is scary for a lot of people. So we're thinking about being Michigan. You know, being open to Laurie says, go talk to that person or you see she's crying. What's going on go go do something about it? Go say something to go. Ask a good question. It just be their love on them. You know, whatever it is. But so so for me, that's that's one thing I'm working on. Because I I tend to be a little more cerebral than he. You know, think theologically about stuff, but so to real practical, and again loving people have been open to what the spirit might lead me to do any given situation. Whether it's starbuck this morning sitting across from somebody. Yeah. Okay. Whatever might be why you know, years ago house. He's pastor. I'd thought about this idea. I'm sure I heard it from somebody say this way. But just started understanding a ministry of presence just being present. And you know, yes, we had programmed and yes, we had bible study than yes, we did all these formal things. But the where I saw God works. The most was just being present in the lives of people in the first pastor, I work with he he he said it this way one time that, you know, are the are programs that the events and the things that we do as a church were really just kind of like that's the excuse to to get to the to get the peop- to get in the presence of the people, and I didn't. I I heard that in you know, all these years later come back to me. But but he was he was a strong evangelist. And he was one who was very he was out say he's aggressive, not not a negative way. But he was just very aggressive that it was it was what he did. I mean, he was out and he would go to the gym and work out. And he would be very evangelist. He would be out in the community football games. He he was he was much more out there than I was even as youth pastor, and because of his evangelistic, gifting nature. But, but I thought that was interesting when he said that because that was an attraction minded church like bring people to, but, but he didn't even live that way. It's just what it's what he had grown up knowing himself. And so, but he all, but he's talked about that like Letcher pergram via be, you know, the platform of the gathering place. So that you can then have the engagement the people. And and I see that. I think I as the older I've gotten I am more of understood that I've realized the power of that just being next to somebody in line at the grocery store we've. Can open doors that if that got wants you to walk through, and it's just being sensitive to the spirits promptings. Yeah. 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122 - Tuscan GP 2020

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122 - Tuscan GP 2020

"Siobhaun deer. and. Welcome to shift a podcast about speed race cars the way Italian for red. Flag Red, flag something. The Italian countryside has heard a lot recently I'm drew scanlon joining me. We have Danny O'Dwyer. Are you any? Rupture gloss around that one appreciate the The work there drew red flag also could have been used if we were talking about bullfighting, but we're not just. So you know if you're ever talking about bullfighting talion person just release into the first five seconds of this podcast. That's right just pay for them, and then they'll understand. If you are new to this podcast welcome if you're new to Formula One, it self, we recommend listening to our preseason primer episode. which assumes no prior F one knowledge and explains how the sport works and who everybody is. This year's primer is episode ninety six. If you'd like to go back and listen to that, also the show supported entirely by our audience over at Patriot dot com slash shift F. One. Where every month we released bonus podcasts and videos exclusively for our patrons, covering racing documentaries and films. F One video games price for other racing series and a lot weird thing. So if you want to get access to that and support the show at the same time head over to Patriot dot com slash shift f one or click a link in the show notes acne is on assignment this week We miss him dearly. We do and once he is back we will. Get together and talk about what our next Patriot on exclusive episode a we'll be we've got some fun ideas today. However, we will be discussing the Tuscan Grand Prix. Destruction Derby. Yes. Which happened this past weekend the first ever Formula One race at Mu Jello. Yes. It was at circuit that a couple of drivers were familiar with Nicholas Latifi add spun around a few times. If you're in a Ferrari livery, there's a decent chance you've been on it because they own the circus. That's pretty much like most of the drivers didn't really know much about it and also we were. Of, contemplating going to be quite a lot of tire where they're just because of the lack of racing and the lack of you know whenever that surface was done last and also the he's there was a lot of things conspiring to make the tires stretched themselves about this weekend. Yeah. It's so fun going to a new track because you know that teams don't have data here. So they're all flying by the seat of their pants I think Hamilton, especially. Yeah, especially like a classic one to where it's like it's not it's not one of these drones are made with these specific cars in mind. It's kind of a bit of a round peg in a square hole kind of situation. Yeah. Landed north actually had a crash in free practice two and said afterwards like, yeah, you know bummer I crash but like this is how it should be I dipped to tire into the gravel spun off. That's I like this way. So. It is. It's a it's an old school track but Yeah. I think Lewis Hamilton said before he got in the simulator to like figure mugello because he hadn't really driven a lot there either I imagine a lot of these guys were in the simulator or like. Project cars or something I racing I don't know if Magellan I racing but. Anything to to help it was interesting watching. George Russell did a video for the F. One youtube channel where he did like the circuit guide but did it in the car like recorded over radio and it was really cool. I'm one of the. Absolutely. Awesome. Things I noticed was that he was using the Ferrari flag that was flying sort of around the Iran maybe turn asure nine at. You can see twice on your loop around. To judge the wind direction for when he was entering L. Corner, which is crazy and that's what type of thing that clearly simulators you're not. You're not getting that right? Well. Yeah. Let's let's see how the very first grid at Mugello shook out shelley. What do you know? Lewis, Hamilton. Didn't apparently get a lot of simulator time no problem. He's on pull about your botas right behind him followed by Max rap album. Pulling together, a top four qualifying, and then what do you know Charlotte? Clare in fifth place nine places ahead of his teammate at for home track he thankfully for him managed to escape a yellow flag at the end of Q. Three after a spin from Esteban. That prevented a lot of other cars from improving their laps. Basically for anyone who? At that stage like Botas I, think Hamilton Jeff, not improve on his final run and both of us may have. So boathouse was master over all week like his his practice runs. He was he was pipping Appleton are pretty readily. He was holding the of course, the new fastest laps, which records would you Mugabe going you know Majella sorry which were increasing day by day by day. So it's it sucks format even weekend Reso- Dominance All A has to happen is Hamilton just he does that our time laughing it's just like can't can't stop it. Lance. Stroll. Start. Sixth Sergio Perez in seventh Paris actually penalized one place for causing a collision with Reichen and during free practice to and had a close call grow John. One in the same place back same corner. Yeah. Turned wide. He just he was always seemed to be in the way that gave me what was bad though because he was exiting the pits, he really should have known better there although came showed no matter what the pets during the rice. So a lot of an established veteran drivers making setting mistakes this weekend. A one place penalty don't see a lot of those They've been three places But yeah. He'll start seventh Daniel Ricardo in eight Carlos Sainz in ninth McLaren said this weekend that their car had been particularly sensitive to wind. But that's what I say when. You know. I. Play. Golf. Always Wendy when I play golf. Always. Ready Windy. Content Norris in eleventh. Crash student and help. Daniel in twelfth give me racket in and thirteenth ahead of semester and federal and Fourteenth Roma Grow John Fifteenth Peer Gasoline Sixteenth unfortunate turnaround from last week apparently had a problem with his battery. During qualifying right. Antonio Juvenile and seventeenth followed by George Russell and Nicholas Latifi in their first race without the Williams family at the track. Yeah and then Kevin Magazine bringing up the rear in twentieth. Place. Danny. Do you WanNa take us through the start? Meal Ninety. Yeah. Strap in folks that he's that he's working overtime this weekend. Yeah a Hamilton had a good star boathouse actually looked like he had eight terrible start didn't get off the line very well. Immediately jumped over to behind Hamilton to get into slipstream because amb the early indications from the Formula Two and formula three races whereas that the D. R. S. was actually fairly strong and perhaps at higher speeds, it would be even stronger making overtaking before the apex of term one. Easy. which would also indicate that the slipstream might also be very good but it's a funny. It's a funny old great here. We'll get to a later. It's an incredibly Longbridge. It's usually when the F. Three lineup because. So many of them, right you talk what is it like thirty cars or something Dr Driving those races because so many of them oftentimes at the start, you'll see cars at the last two or three cars will be on the turn for the final term onto the straight on this one, they probably had double the amount of grid. So it's the great as Rehi- up and. Also it's incredibly long. So even when the F. Three cars read, it looked like it was half full it was it was quite strange. So the result of this comes up later obviously in one of the restarts but for this situation votes is essentially jumps in behind Hamilton gets a gray toe of him almost immediately and what look like a terrible start for him actually wasn't that bad while was bad was. An extra stop and who had gotten the jump on him suddenly had no power and was just getting gobbled up by the time we got to ask am I turn which I talked about last week was probably one of the places where you're gonNA see a lot of overtaking because it's so wide the whole. ARANDAS and we'd seen cars to three a bryce overtaking in in some of feeder junior divisions and. By the time we got into that for stopping was finding himself stuck in a bunch of cars that he didn't necessarily wants to be in. The other person who did on the exit of that I turn was the race winner from last week Pr Guiseley, who was kind of stuck in no man's land between I. Guess it was for stopping. Kimmy to was left as well, and then I think might have been grown to his right. And he kind of just misplaced himself he. Drove up onto the back we of Kimi Raikkonen who then lost control and went into the back of Vattel who's in front of them are sorry. For stopping WHO's in fronted eminent and grow John who was on the outsides? Crashes Happening we're coming up to a left-hander is basically just GONNA get gobbled up in all three of them got sort of spun knock knock durant into a Groan managed to get the car going again and get out of the. Darsch. While that was happening another incident just after that turn 'em saw car signs getting spun around you got a little bit of a tough from. I believe it was lie though Norris and him and Peres were right beside each other Perez. Managed to avoid and then Sebastian Seattle's stuck in one of those moments you're walking into street and you see someone in you Boko, left and you Boko. You kind of keep getting each other's way battled tries to dijk left or rice. Of signs carriers while he's slowing down and manages to make some contact damaging his front wing as so by this stage, we have Carlos Sainz with big damage for stopping. His out of the race, his beached PR goslings editor race he's in the wall. For, stopping kicks up a bunch of pebbles into his face at the card of the out of the Kitty, litter but at to know to know look and we. WAS NOT, immediately a safety car. Yes. Yeah. And I know I know Danny. You don't have your notes for this one. So I can I can. I and I can't find them. It's so annoying to do all that work and I. Don't know where the Hell I put them. I can take one of these starts off your hands. Because we know there are more but yeah, we had a safety car. And Went around. Like six laps, I, think restarted on lap seven and Botas who was in the front then was controlling the grid after the safety car went off He gets to choose as the leader when gun it Passes. The start finish line at right lint he has to our anyone can go right so. He saves it until the last moment. And people speed up at the green flag, even the protests hadn't yet gone. Latifi in the back. Let's see. He starting third restarting thirteenth here dives to the left to avoid Magnusson. Juvenile Z. WHO's right behind the TV doesn't have enough time to react and just plows into the back of Bax. Signs then hits Gr- juvenile from the rear. Juvenile Z. Rolls to the left into. Latifi. And then grow John is behind signs and somehow manages to avoid hitting anyone saying over the radio. This is the worst thing I've seen ever which. From Rome and show Sean you know bit must be bad. So, this was really chaotic. They reviewed it a bunch of times because this is an instant car into red flags situation because there's no way they can. Clear. All this you have to start finish right? It's just littered with debris of Car Yeah carbon-fiber. Everywhere. And there's a a a video on Youtube Channel. sort of analyzing this where. We'll box in Sam Collins seemed to blame Russell for this because I'm not sure if they blame blame seemed strong but yeah, I think they say he he caused it. Hamilton thinks it was a result of the safety car lights going off too late but I actually happen to agree with what Piatra Fittipaldi said. In that video. So to explain here, the yellow lights on top of the safety car turnoff to indicate that the safety car is leaving the track that the race will resume at the start of the next lap. And this is usually when you see the lead car start to slow down and back up the field, it's like you said Danny illegal to overtake before the start finish line. So the drivers do this to give themselves enough room at the front to then gun it and hit top speed right at that line while everyone else is stuck celebrating weaving also allows you. In the cars behind you to be slow. But still keep your RPM's up. Race Director. Michael Massey dispute that the safety car lights went out early saying. They can criticize all they want. If. We have a look at a distance perspective from where the lights were extinguished to the control line. It's probably not dissimilar if not longer than at a number of other venues at the end of the day, the safety car lights go out when they do the safety car is in the pit lane we have twenty of the best drivers in the world, and as we saw this, as we saw earlier today in the formula three race, those drivers in the junior category had very very similar restart what was occurring in the race and navigated it quite well without incident. I. Think. After your drivers are way more used to that type like there's way more cars there on top of each other a lot more because of the face like if you watch the stars of those races like. Also, the cars aren't as wide maybe. He's not wrong. It's all. Yeah. Which is why It's yeah, exactly. There's a big Chunky of midfield. Yes. So let to go into a little bit because I had a lot of people tweeting about especially when Barmby Manson the Concertina factor check as we talked about let me. Let me just finish out the sequence of events here. BOTAS backing up the field basically until he was at the line which way later than everyone was expecting which guy slightly laser as well because the star finish line for this race is way more further ahead on a start most trucks are right and like we said, it's totally within his right to do this and it makes sense because that long straight like Hamilton, a protest doesn't want Hamilton to get a tow, right like like he did at the beginning of the race exactly us at all. So all the other drivers. Could see. Like guys in the back like thirteenth fourteenth where Latifi, in juvenile stuff where they couldn't see both us all I could see with green flags, flashing right and. The. Cars right in front of them accelerating Russell left some gap between himself and the cars ahead. And also tried to time it just right again, trying to be as fast as possible without overtaking anyone before the start finish line. But he was too early eventually had to put on its brakes but didn't hit anybody Magnusson who is behind Russell also had enough. Room to slow down the cars behind him however thought that the race was on and we're prepared to stop. So I think it's technically Latifi that should have left more room between himself and Magnuson. But and maybe you're about to get into Danny there is some language in the rules. However that would maybe point the finger more than just Latifi. I. Think it's hard. This seems to me like a consequence of like a lot of different factors. That there may be needs to. Be like maybe if there was a couple more races here, people would know the specific characteristics of this track that would lead this to happen that being the toe on the way into the first turn and the position of the the line where he would have to start accelerating. I think now drivers would know that this would happen here because it's kind of difficult to blame some of these cars in the back because this is normal for all these cars to try and create some sort of gap between them in the car in front of the when the cargoes and usually wear when botas with go is pretty obvious like for for spa they always kinda go before the last turn right they'll go into the chicane. So they have a pneumatic battery going out into the starfish like we kind. Of know where those spots are and is a bit of deviation honest. But generally, it's like within a certain like two or three second period. So Russell's creating GOP. So we can go the minute. He sees the car for him going he wants to go or if you create that gop, it gives them a buffer to maybe go a little bit earlier than them and get faster so that once they're gone basically it's a it's a it's a drag race effectively it's a drag race, but it's a rolling drag race and. What happened was was that they all everyone was expecting everyone to go everyone was waiting wind. We gone yet. Why have we gone you? Why haven't gone yet and creating that gap and and those seconds that they want to go where getting you know sort of shorter and shorter so rottweiler Russell the. Russel's onboard. It's not that what he did he he didn't do anything dangerous. He actually effectively made a gop accelerated up to speed abyss to fill that gap, and then when he saw the cars ahead actually weren't going he down relatively safely spun went to bits to the right just to make sure it happened the problem with Concertina effect. Comes in here right is if that happens with three cars at the back of the great, that's totally fine. Nuns ever going to happen concertina fact will continue to ripple throughout the puck. There's no more cars left and what this what this term as you know, it's not a racing term. It's something that just is used by engineers in the world of automobiles and traffic and stuff like that. Most of the. Gridlock that happens on. Motorways oftentimes is caused by this. If somebody caught somebody off on a lane, that person has to break lace than the person behind them break slightly later laser laser uninstalled. If you go half a mile, the road, everyone's slow dance who've ever in one of those traffic jams where everyone's Lausanne for seemingly no reason and then I'll you know we all start going again? That's what the Constantina Affect is. We all the time and in F one races where people break and then there's a knock on effect essentially. It is a British ISM the Concertina we call it an accordion effect on accordion. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. It's yeah. It's called out because it's an accordion, which is a box, which is you know all those rivets are the same space apart from each other, but they can be stretched pushed together as well. Rice they're they're fixed in position relative to each other, but they can be squeezed closer and further apart. At will. So the issue is that what what Russell did he's he went ambro slightly faster and then the car behind him had slightly less. Reaction Time time to react and because of the speeds that these cars are going ash than the next person, it's like almost logarithmic right? The next person has even less than experts even less uncertainly like the only people who are able to react. Where people like John who saw crashes happening in front of them before they were worried about breaking and it was like Oh Jesus of course, I have to slow down and everyone else behind him is fine and slows down. So I think. The way to solve this is kind of has been as happened. People know what to expect from Magellan the same way at spa they don't tend to. Hold up the until after the final chicane because everyone knows where they. Used, to have a dedicated safety car line instead of using the. Start. Finish line so we could just have a instead of the start finish line is the line at you can't overtake at you would have a Earlier in the Circuit has changed. Whereas recent change holidays okay. Yes. So perhaps, it stopped maybe in that case that that's why they were going earlier down into those straits like if they started at the start of this race is a fairly good John's the boathouse was gonna get mugged because of the power of the to- here see why he did it but but it is kind of like it's hard to blame anyone for it. It's it's just you know it's hard to blame boats because he did nothing wrong by the letter of the law. But also, you could see the crash happening before it happened. I was watching going like Oh this is going to really he's going really late like what's happening what's going to happen to the folks at the back? Are they going to get like I can see them getting bunched and then? Crash crash crash crash crash was so bob so God, no one got injured I assigns is holding his hand. It looks like the halo actually stopped him getting pretty sizable piece of carbon fibre into the cockpit. And sure enough the stewards. Didn't. Really. Issue, a you know one one person is at fault kind of penalty issued to twelve four more warnings which are a new thing this year. Because of Article Thirty nine point one three of the sporting regulations which states in order to avoid the likelihood of accidents before the safety car returns to the pits from the point at which the lights on the car turned out, drivers must proceed at a pace which involves no erotic ration- or breaking near any other maneuver, which is likely to endanger other drivers or impede the restarts the site that and say I mean that's like it's vague. What's radic right? So you could kind of point to this sort of movement and say. You broke the rules but again, yeah, they were former warnings, which is not appoint on your license or anything to the following Magnusson g-o-v Nausea Latifi signs. Albion Stroll Ricardo Perez Norris. Okon and Russell. God. That shows you how far off the grid that people were going. Basically it was the first three in the last three that were not issued penalties. That's incredible. And they say. Stewart's conclude that the root cause of this incident was the inconsistent application of throttle and brake from the final corner along the pit straight by the above drivers. We also note that some drivers might have avoided being involved in the incident if they had not followed directly behind the car in front by doing. So the effectively blocked off all visibility what was happening immediately in front of the preceding car, a warning has imposed as you of the stewards that no one driver was wholly or predominantly to blame right? But had red flag. sidecars Nazi. Signs, Juvenile Latifi at Magaziner all out because of the crash Okon actually withdraws a under the red flag because of overheating brakes. So now just thirteen remain for the restart on lap nine. D, Can you take this one? Any? Yes. Sure they're starting under. breaks are just smoking there just. Four twenty Blazin. Hopping homes, it's A. It's like turn these lights man I need to get some air through these boys and but he had a good star she boathouse was ahead of him right? So he he got ahead of photos. Getting into the second turn and. It's an incredibly. Small Grid of cars is the thing was so strange it's almost half the guys we're used to seeing. It's not quite A. US Grand Prix but yeah, they all got through cleanly perhaps after. What happened prior nobody really wanted to. And also to more space fewer cars. So by the end of the lots of Reseda are pretty much away with it, but you've got Leclair and third and. Racing points behind them and then I believe it's Ricardo and then it's all bond that. Rice. I think you're right. Because album did not have great star he restarted in fourth and then dropped to seventh. The, next rest of the rice basically. Fixed. Dot. Problem Yeah. Ricardo though looking racy he got by Peres on lap fifteen for fifth-place. Leclair. It's kind of backing up the pack behind him and sure enough stroke gets by him on lap eighteen four third place. And at the same time, like you mentioned album guests by Peres for sixth. So he's climbing back up the field Leclair though continues to fall prey to the car is behind losing fourth Ricardo on lap nineteen Peres also not looking too hot. He loses six to Norris on that twenty eight Wilde's those those force India's just racing is going in opposite directions in how Do you think we'll still be calling them force India. When they're asked next year I know or ice Gosh it's hopefully it'll be a different color maybe that'll help what's the Reynaud name again i Ala Pena everyone was saying gene not pine. Yeah. So spelled out fine but you know French. Become Heen. Get it in there like the hammers. A ball pain Hammer. Sure. Bullpen. Association withdrew tanning. Odd. Six Ricardo running in fourth behind strobe goes for the undercut and gets it. Assuming third place when stroh comes out of the pits on that thirty. And speaking of Tyre Strategy Album has chosen to go long on the soft tyres that he put on during the red flag and with everyone sitting in front of him I think makes it is highest second on track. But he eventually comes in for mediums on lap thirty two. Then somewhat hilariously, Botas. Running a second. For tires opposite to Hamilton. Yeah strategist. I gotta I gotTA. Switch it up somehow. Totally. He's just the he's yeah. He Lost I. Think I think the? Frustration of having dallied again and then losing it again and just knowing that Mercedes tend to always put the money same strategy. They're very good sort of Alan processing their ways to one two finishes like having their heads on their shoulders and not having their drivers rice. Bush yeah. Well, I, he wants the undercuts right and then I guess his tires or he wanted to stay I ocean that Hamilton go but then botas tires were the ones that were more messed up. There was a couple of radio messages about the curbs as well. They're asking Hamilton's to stay off the curbs and Of. All the curves faster and he was like don't worry photos has been sold as well. So yeah, it was. It was funny. He basically just wanted to split strategies try because at that stage is they know they're not under threat from anyone behind them. So Wa But Mercedes calls and Botas I puts him on hard tyres. Then Hamilton comes in for. Hard tires. Stick me on the rebound Terry. Right. then. On Lap forty three, a big cloud of dust clears to. The. Mangled racing point of Lance Stroll who was racing in fourth what did you make of this accident? They he asked him almost immediately like what happened there they sort of. Came over the radio because it was it it was such a fast crash. It was really quite scary the shosh of him. A sort of exiting. The frame, the our our our Balata, Arab latter think we're calling it or. Is. A twin Sata turns there and it was a sorry apologies to all of our. Mugello fans, motor fans, I'm butchering this one, but it was the second one of those. It's a fairly high speed corner and even all Dash Kitty litter couldn't stop him from ramming into the Tyre. Wall. A lot of ferocity and he came over the radio stroll. Didn't said that he thought. He had gotten a puncture is I was sort of felt like he didn't know but that's felt like. There was some you know his car tires were mangled did retain for them. The tethers stuck this time. But some. Like like watching a game just lose it. You hear something happened like. Yeah, and if you WANNA see the difference between like what it looks like when you have like a failure like dot or what it's like losing the car, do a play by play of or do a side by side of this, and it's the crushed lar- Hodge on. The PONENTE. The final turn on. The power bolic's in Monza Rice like you see what it's like when somebody loses the car gets oversteer on has to correct and this is not that this is simply the something happens without rear the card lock on a crash earlier this year remember that one. Also just. Boy. was in Austria spot. Like I might have been similar one rate just kind of lost the back of the car and something happened in the rear he just spun off. Yeah, scary but. Yes stroll does number on the barrier. So safety car and then another red flag for them to get. Yeah. the barrier fixed. And under both of these again. There's that rule where you can get basically a free pitstop. You can use the red flag as a time to switch onto new tires. I think Russell had pitted. Before this. So He after the race was not happy about this, the fact that this flat or this rule is in place because. You know he pitted but that meant that everyone that he came in behind didn't have to pit. so it's like. I lost all those places I was we're doing good and it's worth mentioning the Russell at this stage is in ninth position Russell who has not scored yet this year in fact, there's a couple of right in Lati- you get the only one another no grow John. Has. Has One. No Krona's Jonah's one point for I think at this stage I forgot one of those dozens Williams neither Williams has a point and also I want to say Kimmy House the point at this stage and also Jeevan Nazi has one is that Rice maybe I have one point by that's right. So there's a there's a shed low. Says are ASPLIN. Okay. So grow John Hasn't even gone appoint. So there's there's there's a the the odds are if you're finishing this race again, two point, three people in this race who are not getting appointed. Sorry to now because. We just lost. our. Friend Lawn Stroll so. Yeah. Like Russell does not need this. He needs to get a point like also to be bit weird the first. Non Williams the raised. At a point. But you're just like we're almost where the fight is. Yeah. So. At the restart the order. NBC. We get another standing start, which is awesome. Well they don't want to do not a rolling star. No saw that one at the the restart the order is Hamilton Botas Ricardo Albion Peres Norris. Caveat Leclair Russell. Federal Reichen in Grosjean. how are you on this start Danny? Yes I mean another not wonderful one for a vo toss at least initially who doesn't get a great star and it's Ricardo Reis gets pasta him. Yeah. into the into the first couple of turns and then he's just kind of getting gobbled up. There's a great overtake by Alexander, Alabama and socio parents who's really sort of stamping his authority on this race at this age you know I'll I feel like has had a lot of really challenging overtakes to be done to try and A. Secure positions I think he's he's. A from time how hobbiton knock them off I think he's done incredibly well. And Yeah Ricardo was was in second up on the next lap where boats US use the toe to to get past him in recent years second second place. Tech a position. Sorry. As. Last Time Ricardo was on the podium was when he won Monaco in two thousand eighteen. And I think as we've mentioned before in the commentators mentioned a whole lot during the race if Ricardo. Gets on the podium this year Cyril, a beatable team principal of Reynaud. We'll get a tattoo which I didn't know it was a tattoo of Ricardo's choosing. Shots. Makes it. What's the the? What's the other side of this Bet Cerrell? Right. Yeah. He doesn't want to. He might get in trouble if he's plotting against his team winning races. Album somehow find some pace however everybody restarted with used soft tyres by the way. And with the aid of. Sends. It around the outside once again. Like he did on on Peres for yeah. Around turn one for a lovely overtake of Ricardo on lap fifty one. Peres same live, I think. But. Yeah Love Tiger. But yeah, it was an amazing right right around the outside of that turn. It was glorious think he's engineer and said like we got a call you MR outside. From how does like the he actually always does he does he's always finding grip somewhere like that, which is not unlike for stopping actually finding grip on the on the periphery. Where we can get it. At the same time that'll gets by Grosjean for tenth place. And with Clara ninth both Ferraris are now in the points eventually Russell Gets Bhai Grosz onto. And that is that what I and the other the two things are happening. Here's albums ever gotten the podium because the two times he added almost Brazil, and then where was was it Australia No. I was forget where that the I. Can't remember where the motor GP crush and were able. Yeah I was Austria. Yeah. Both Times Hamilton knocked him out. Of contention. So he's never had a podium and the other thing that's happening here is does Reichen and got a five second penalty for crossing the pit lane line oh right yes. A wrong time. So he's basically like his his own points at the season throw away if he can't create a gap between him and in fact, lose intent and George Russell is. There because he's because he's he's an eleventh and he wants to first points for Williams. But Alas? Alas yes. That is how it ended Hamilton in I. Now one win away from tying Michael Schumacher's. Hamill Botas, finishes second after that strong start album gets a long overdue first podium. Ricardo equals his highest finish in Toronto at fourth. Peres hangs on for fifth. Norris gets a solid sixth caveat finishes seventh. Reichen. Somehow avoids to much damage. In this race and gets eighth-place ahead of both Ferraris once again, points forgive me. And Hey for our got two cars in the points Leclair in ninth and Federal Tenth Russell Barely misses out on points again. and grow John Probably just happy to finish the race considering a day that he has had. In fact, the the Hyphen Race Dot Com has an article about the Odyssey of Roman grown over the course of this race called the unseen brilliance and. Of a heroic last place which. Show notes. That's wonderful. I will absolutely check that. Yeah, that was the chaotic, the weird wild and crazy Tuscan Grand Prix I reckon did drop. To ninth place because of that penalty so declare inherited A. but yes, swan go over the driver standing here. Lewis. Hamilton still on top of one hundred, ninety points voucher boathouse behind with one hundred and thirty five for stop got one, hundred and ten. Then we've got a close battle here, Land Norris and fourth with sixty five Alex album in fifth with sixty three. Strolls in sixth with fifty seven followed by Daniel, Ricardo with fifty three. We've got clarin eighth with forty nine. Peres has forty four ghastly with forty three signs with forty one. then down to Esteban Okon in twelfth with thirty federal has seventeen points in thirteenth place Daniel Kibi at. Fourteenth with ten then Nico Hockberg Holden. Strong fifteenth place wasn't that the bet. And the question. is currently in fifteenth with six points and we have a tie for sixteenth with Kim and his teammate Antonio Juvenile's -I. Kevin Magnusson with one point is an eighteenth place. To sorry okay. Got One and then Nicholas Latifi George Russell and Romain Grosjean. All have zero. Let's take a look at the team standings Mercedes and I with three hundred twenty, five, red bull has one. Hundred Seventy three McLaren has one oh, six, racing point with ninety two, Reynaud has eighty three. Ferrari. With sixty six, Alpha towery precludes mind with fifty three. Alfa. Romeo has four genus team have won and Williams still with goose egg. making of leaderboards here we have an all Canadian podium for the official shift one. Fantasy League. In. Third Place Planes Weekly. In, second place my heart will grow John. So. Good. So good. Indians French to it's just works although Garzon's not technically French whatever. It isn't she? Yeah she's GonNa she Canadian Canadia. She think she I think she competed in the Eurovision. Swiss. Oh really okay. So they do have a Francophone Socialist, a lawless people they just choose their countries as they wish Nah I in first place right now, we have smooth operation with four os and to musical note emojis. If you'd like to join the shift on fantasy league you can do so with the link and code in the show. Notes. Oh Hey can I give you my very vague update on Formula Two and Formula Three Oh please have formula three was the Final rance so that championship is over I will not say who won, but you should go check out the highlights on the to channel at the very least a full races on these way better extended highlights packages are on F. One TV. They're like eleven minutes long they kind of cover off everything and I watched all of race to and I think heights race one. and. Then the to stuff is getting really into it as well. I think we started this race weekend would five possible winners and there has been a significant shakeup at the top over the course of this weekend with some drivers finishing the race and other drivers were miles behind scoring top points. So if you are interested at all and a lot of there's been a lot of scuttle but the past week or so about you know. Getting these cars closer together and you know. Reverse grade all this like just go watch to like just happening right now. A Lotta, these drivers you'll know names of or you will in the future. So go check the mash a you mix you acker and Guangzhou Joe and a law these dudes in your life it's. Good stuff. Yeah. The super cool for me having watched some formula to knowing who Charlotte Clare was when he came in and tried to kind of. So Yeah Yeah COLUMI- lost. They're saying might be one of the ones that pops up next year like this. Yeah. You will know these people although it's funny because we've so many rookies if somebody young people in one at the moment that it's kind of hard to see where the gaps are gonNA come for this this latest batch. Yeah. I saw an article saying that Contra signer was considering close to ten drivers you can only have gone to. Somebody needs to tell onto the rules I'm sure they probably got more points if you feel the ten cars. And A lot of. The. You mean. We're fucking bunch of. Thank you. But the the commentators usually do a good job of not spoiling the Formula Two and three races. Coverage and we're GONNA we try also. To not. To, not do that. He three suspected. If you have listening to this podcast, you have listened to the you've the F one race that just happened potato. Assume that you watch everything I think similarly if we talk about Indian self that we try not so. Sports maybe because it's you know, let let's be honest. This is a weird type of sports to be too and it's kind of hard to find time sometimes to watch like multiple to our races. So you know. I got it. Sticking, to the news show we mentioned Aston Martin all ready. That is the what what racing point will be called in twenty twenty one they have decided their drivers and Sergio Perez is not one of them. Instead, Sebastian Federal will be driving for Aston. Martin come twenty, twenty one. Now those rumors we heard like a month or two ago are indeed true. Although. This story from race fans apparently Lawrence Stroll has such a loud voice that Sergio Perez heard. He was believing the team like through the wall. So wow before they even told him. That's that's not grace. No. No Yeah. That's a shame. It's a shame. I guess I hadn't we've talked for. So we've been talking about this for the worst kept secret and F one right like in the product and we've been talking about what's going to do next. Dot Com is reporting on a rumor like right that doesn't happen very often. So but I guess I'd I didn't really take into a Kendra all of the work that Peres had done to keep the team around and all the sort of action the VGA Malia staff. And all that. So it is sad to see him go as also like. Anyone who's been following the sport for any length of time is under any. Illusions over the cut throat nature of a sport with the amount of money and so you know and also like Pharaoh has for many years was was you know part of the fact that he was getting these seats was because of the money that was behind him as well. But then you could also argue that of course, coming from an underrepresented country like Mexico the perhaps you needed. Money behind you one of these teams is GonNa put somebody and with the name Sergio Perez in their car. So does it it's it's a complex thing. I, I have enjoyed him over the past you know. Lengthy career how long it's been. Like ten years at least. He seems to have always been part of the. Paddock in one way or another. And I hope it's not the last we see of him, he's a solid driver and he brings money. So I think he'd be a good fit for a couple of teams I. Think Haas might be one especially if they pick up a rookie I think having somebody like Peres with the experience he has You know exiting the pit lane poorly over the weekend notwithstanding I think would be really good. He's also like just a good heads to have when it comes to figuring out the car like doing practice and stuff like that. He's always been a very. Useful driver he doesn't just turn up race like some folks do. So yeah. But again, how do you turn about valve especially if you're trying to. Take it seriously and. You know also keep the other seat for your son. Right Yeah. What did you make the stuff because we've been talking for weeks about the whole will he won't he stay an F. One thing he has been intimating months of Irish. How his sort of time at home during covert sort of every athletes, these days has been thinking a lot more about family and stuff and about whether he wants to be one anymore and I guess he ultimately came down on the side of does. Yeah I which there's a an article on race fans dot net says. They asked that'll how close he came to retiring From Formula One in battle said close. a measure of how close you can get but it was close in terms of having a lot of thoughts and deciding ultimately I have put myself I in that regard what's best for me and I have and what I have decided now believe that's best for me and I'm looking forward to prove that I I never really thought that he would retire. Think, he's too much of a or retire by his own volition. I think he's too much of a Formula One nerd I. think he like they're always good like the deaf one sub for this. There's always like you know he's always the one like checking out of their cars. He I think he's at the power vodka. Do you remember last week? He was he was he was up at the turn of. He went out and q one, and then got out of his car and then went out to watch qualifying like he. He is probably one of the biggest Formula One fans out there. So I I don't know I'm I'm happy that he's sticking around you know sex repairs but Yeah, I'm I'm I'm glad and like. You know he gets to sort of His Ferrari. Thing didn't work out but he gets to like write his own tail here I guess with a brand new team. well, brand new name I guess. Yeah. So yeah, I'm happy for. Third Chapter is kind of. Common up I think and. Yeah I'm a happy sticking around as well. I've always not always I I've certainly I think I've warms to him as Ferrari has humbled him a little best. Yeah I. Think you're yeah. Thank you, right. People not exactly warming to Lewis Hamilton Danny. No I mean have people ever warmed still Lewis, Hamilton I feel like he has always been. He's always been. I want to say, well, target is actually probably fair, but he is always definitely gotten more shish for anything. He's done than a lot of drivers. Probably connected in some way or another to the fact that he is the only black racer on the grid and has always sort of been I. Guess the Word I learned as we did our patriots this uppity. Used over here he's he's always had people you know with his sort of confidence and brashness and willingness in recent years to speak out about environmental justice or Social Justice in more recent times. Has Always has always tended to rob a certain amount of the you know the the F. One viewership, the wrong way which unfortunately sort of part and parcel of a lot of. People want to keep the difficulties of politics out of their entertainment time and you know, obviously that's not really something. A lot of people are willing to do especially someone in Lewis and position so I. Guess What happened was he was wearing a sheriff's which was a which I immediately saw him was like Oh. That's you know it's incredibly doing. which had. Actually. I WANNA make sure I get the actual text of a right because I know it's been the phrase that everyone has been. Repeated over and over I. It was not only on the podium, but it was before the race as well. Oh I didn't notice when they did the stone together. which they don't tell the. Cost as much as as. Yeah arrest the cops who killed Rana Taylor say her name were written on his. Shirt, and obviously we've had the end racism shirts on. He has already been sticking out just wearing a straight up black lives matter shirt over the past since the series season started at but I guess I'm not really sure about this news story where. On seems funny. It's we need to cover it obviously, but it sort of looked like it was maybe a bigger thing and then it sort of died down it looked at one stage the FAA we're going to conduct A. Review into the fact that he had warned this I guess they knew about the black lives matter stuff ahead of time. Bush. Didn't necessarily know that he was going to wear this. And there is a little bit of kerfuffle about weather in. There was going to be an investigation into the FAA have since come out and said that there is not an investigation into this and we have been reporting here from your Benson over the BBC. The BBC The British Castle saying F one's governing body has been considering whether Hamilton brokerage rules wearing a t-shirt highlighting police brutality Sunday's race and FA spokesman told BBC Sport and investigation had been ruled out Hamilton said an what you? said. Once you to know I won't stop using this platform to shed light on I. Believe is right the Mercedez drying writing on instagram. Thanked those who continued to support me and show love I. AM grateful. He added this is a journey for all of us to come together and Charlotte challenge world on every level of injustice not only racial. In keeping without I, guess earlier in the week before the weekend had kicked off. The Hamilton was not done trying to fight the good fight he. Edited been announced. I guess that he is putting his name behind he's not racing in but he is. Basically founding a team in the upcoming extreme e. Series that's coming up the team name is going to be x forty four to says numbers driven on since he was a kid extreme, a new series created by former founder. Is Alejandro. Allergies Alejandro Guy His. which has these. Five hundred and fifty break horsepower suv driving in remote locations. It's meant to sort of do the opposite side of the coin to our formerly was doing which was highlighting you renewables and and and green energy and cities, and this is basically taking cars at into some of the world's most. Ecologically Harmed places as a way to show the power of. Electric cars, and also to have some Raj Suv all terrain four by four racing So yeah another busy week in the world of Lewis Hamilton Fighting Racial and environmental justice. He seems to be doing a lot of this and it seems like everyone else is destroyed and cookbooks. I especially heartened to see his team sticking up for him on this this especially. Yes. Yeah, and Like. Just on twitter you know pictures of him with the shirt up there on the podium and then people you know responding saying like Politics Adami Sport and the Mercedes twitter accounts basically just like to multiple people. This isn't politics this basic human rights like for the official Mercedes F one accounted that. That's a that's a big You know it's a strong statement and you know their shots of their entire team taken the taking a knee So that to people who? Marketing think all it's just like corporate virtue signaling or whatever it's like. Look. You know it's in the world we live in today it's becoming increasingly like you have to increasingly myopic sense of the world's to try and divorce what's going on in terms of you know economic injustice or racial injustice or environmental justice with you know the other things that are going on in your life I don't know about you. I can't you know I can't do a lot of things because of the pandemic I can't you know go outside because of the smoke and the fires that are happening right now I live in a part of the world, which is incredible economic disparity like like. You have to put on so many blinders at this stage to like try and just look at the sports. You know if I put on enough yet eventually you can. If you look really look just at this tiny a picture in your view whole, you could just see the sport there. It's not touching anything else obviously as a black driver in F one. As as a blockade growing up in the UK and he didn't have the, you know the lock to not have to worry about a lot of this stuff. So you can't put blinders on now. Exactly. It's that's that's an active privilege and I was nice to see people like Wolf saying, no question, its entirety, his decision, whatever he does and we will support in many ways I think with what's been going on in the world. It has made it easier for companies to make stand I don't think corporations are friends or anything like that but. At least get in the way and it's hard to look at Hamilton and see what he's doing and. Seated at selfless, right guys many of their he doesn't give a shit to be easier to keep his match if you wanted to probably write us he's not. The fairplay. I'm looking forward to extreme e Alex. all right. Yeah. I guess it's sort of. Ironic twist. CBS News. Reporting This Week Mercedes Benz has been fined one point, five, billion dollars. For cheating on emissions. From the AP here. Hey Mike. Drew. Yeah. SUBSIDIARY MERCEDES-BENZ USA agreed to pay one point, five billion dollars to the US government and California state regulators to resolve allegations they cheated on emissions tests. Officials said on Monday, the US Department of Justice, Environmental Protection Agency, and the California Attorney General's Office said Daimler violated environmental laws by using so-called quote defeat device software to. Circumvent emissions testing by doing. So the company's sold roughly two hundred and fifty thousand cars and vans between two, hundred, nine, two, thousand, sixteen with diesel engines that didn't meet state and Federal Standards the settlement which requires civil penalties. I'm sorry includes civil penalties and still awaits court approval in Washington will require Daimler to fix the already sold vehicles. Yeah. It's wild. I think the Volkswagen thing I think individual people are able to sue VW now over there emissions scandal, it's wild. How much like? How prevalent this stuff was it just shows you how much of a walled garden a lot of these industries are you know it's So. Much money though my goodness. A. Formula what is it called again, extreme teams for that money. I screwed up the explanation of the reverse grid thing by the way last week. Inflated, had the wave formula to work something else. But So we were talking about this last week Ross brand saying that maybe we should try switching up qualifying or just to. Get some kind of of that action that we saw in the past few races of teams are. Drivers racing their way through the grid To liven things up. This would basically mean instead of qualifying, you'd have a sprint race to determine. The Grid, right? So You would start the sprint race in reverse championship order. Right and then at the back guess straight up. Wow that'd be wild. Yeah. Grown at the front. Than have a short race and then however you finish that race that's how you start the main race. That's wild because after the way. There's no reversing of grids or anything right? Stay reverse championship order sprint race. That's wild. That then sets the grid for just this year just do it like nobody cares to this year Get Williams appoints they no one cares about Mercedes points get Ferrari some points at this stage. Yeah. Yeah. Sorry seems to like this idea is like of the stalwarts like federal of course, does not like this idea because. Did. You hear he said, no, Russell doesn't want it either I couldn't believe I was like why doesn't he? He. I he made a great point. Of course. He did. He was like I don't WanNa be overtaken by everyone in the whole race like. As, bad as it is being at the back I, also don't want to be just like a lamb to the slaughter. Get gobbled up by. Everyone. Tokala. Like professional wrestling, he doesn't want. To turn to that which I mean. Lots boost buttons we have drag reduction systems we have run off areas like FEC off there's loads of loads of artificial things happening in this sport to make to try and bunched together we get. Dan Record back on the podcast. Yeah absolutely. We had. So the the way up to does it if I'm not wrong am is this the feature racist Sun on the Saturday? They do reverse grid for the top ten. So if you liked tenth is it so I thought it was eight. On this I don't know because I always thought it was eight under and I was confused because I thought that there was an incident this week where somebody really needed to get two tenths so they could get in and get all and they didn't and they started eleventh and it was part of the whole championship deciding thing. So unless I. Know I don't give with Formula Three, I dunno some points. For Top ten. Yeah. Now you know what I've done what I've done. We've we've just done news piece on a correction and I've just created another one. Yes, I'm so sorry. Speaking of weird stuff you, you also linked me the youtube video of. Ferrari's one. Thousand GP'S CELEBRATION Of My goodness. You have to watch this everybody. I don't it's. It's just like there's so many images from twenty twenty that are just so. So graph that they're just some everything up. I. Don't know I don't know what this feels like it. I don't think it sums up anything I. Don't think it's a beautiful poem captures a moment in time. It's just really weird and it's just the type of money wasting I just saw of people dressed up in his pit crew uniforms dancing around with masks on dancing around in one car. You know socially distanced kind of and also like, and also it was like no audience because, of course, there isn't and they're just like an orchestra and a DJ and people repelling from like Lawrence landmarks beautiful like ancient. dimity palaces which whatever vision they have like. Oh Yeah. This is this is halley revision energy but this is your vision like when I used to watch as a kid where it took itself seriously still it's like, oh. Yeah. That type of camp like bad I saw some say it was like an Olympics opening ceremony made for thirty dollars. Yeah. That's yeah well. Yeah. Like not not a million dollars not thirty dollars but like like five grant like enough enough money to get you into trouble enough money to make it look like. Spent on like red. Carpets. It's so silly. Also I somebody mail in about this and I tried to find the answer I couldn't do it. Analysis guy on the sky. Youtube jollies. Super Good. He's been doing. He's Tech Analysis and Collins yet must be. Absolutely brilliant. He made reference to the fact that it was actually Ferraris nine, hundred, ninety seventh, Grand Prix, and I looked everywhere to figure out what it was, but there must be. Somebody's gone back a course like somebody who's like starts brain is gone back. Race fans did this they did say counted up like here's here all the races. I. Can link this to that. Ferrari did not recent. Also is that what they did? Is They they? They went back to the ones where they didn't. Like I wonder maybe there's like some fudge factor in their Olympia which makes sense because it would have been too ridiculous that Magellan ended up being. The one. You know it's almost just too. Handy It's been a bit silly though with the seventieth anniversary one and this one and that's okay if he was like Ferrari engines I dunno. Weird. I skimmed through the entire half hour video and it was all just it was all musical. Dance it was. Yeah. Was No presentation there was just like. Here's here's a music video. Game type of thing that like were James Bond is trying to kill someone ash. Yes. Seven around talk yeah. We're like whoever goes to who goes to these things I mean nobody goes to them now because they can't unless they're in an orchestra or a dancer. Rang offering fire overall let's be really hard dense. Maybe. It's given. Maybe be gave it goes to these. Yeah Gabe. Newell he's got a racing team. The according yeah at type on twitter L.. Let me know this this week Gabe Newell has erasing team. Heart racing team dot com. That races in IMSA and new. Zealand endurance for as a fundraiser for hospital. Wow. They go. Looking. Good. Dave Davis California Zone. Gave No. Yeah good. Job. Wizard. Love them an Yada emails shift iphone podcast, the Tim O. dot com, or dot com slash emails. I one comes in from Morgan Davies Hi guys loved the park that has been hugely helpful for me as a new fan of the sport I had a question driver's championship standings for those with no points at the end of the race at Mugello this weekend the commentators mentioned the Russell finishing ahead of Grosjean may put him ahead of grown in the standings. So headed to decide the championship order for drivers who zero points on. A follow up question what do drivers guess when they finish the champ? Sorry. What what did they get for where they finish in the championship? So two questions here's the first one is headed. They decide the championship order for those who have no points that is called a countback. They do it the same if we're talking about first and second position or talking about LAS position. So say there is a tie at the top of the championship both drivers of two hundred and fifty points. They will do camp back to see how many. First place finishes either those drivers who had the most will win or be on top of the other one and if they had the same in, those will go back to the second place positions and they do this for the people at the top of the grid at the championship and at the bottom of it. So for Russell and Grosjean, they will account back obviously neither of them we'll have. You know top seven finishes. What if one of them has a top eight finish and the other one doesn't that will be the results the puts them over. So basically your highest position and if not, if someone else has that the number of positions you have and the one underneath. So that's called a compaq and that's for everyone in and then when it comes to the championship. So the teams. Obviously get money for their position in the constructors. Dot is not a set number. It is based off of the amount of sort of revenue that has brought in by F. One, and then is split based on these long running. deals that have sort of been shifted around a lot in the past couple of months have been reporting on them. When it comes to the drivers, themselves don't get cash prizes for the racist they get the trophy. There's usually a fake version of the trophy which they get to keep in their house, and then there is the version that the engrave their name on that they keep for a year and out to give back. But when it comes to the actual racist themselves, they don't get prize money from F one. However, they will most likely have bonuses built into their contracts, which whatever team there that say that they landed a certain position at the end of the season or if they get a certain amount of wins, they got bonuses on them, but all that stuff is obviously private. But yeah, that's that's got head out stuff kinda works. It's. Fairly fairly standard fare. Cool. drew you WanNa get this one from. Matt. Yes, I can take that. Matt. Says to him. I figured you guys should know. That camping world is coming back as the title sponsor for the Nascar Truck Series for twenty twenty one I cannot wait to hear you guys screaming again. Next season. Well. We might Danny in. Getting calendar. I'll be able to control myself and hold back. It's going to be very confusing for people only started listening this year through our podcast am but yeah, we're very happy twenty, twenty one. This is the first inclination. I've seen that just EVAN IS GONNA. Go back to normal twenty twenty year. We're just everything's fine. Going back the camping world truck that's just the first over the carry. Coal Mine. I retweeted this from the. Shift F one twitter account and a lot of people are sending us too bad ganders going away. So I think people are assuming that like Gander is the canonical. But like. Children. I know it was. So it used to be camping world truck before it was Gander Mountain truck and before that I think it was craftsman. But like. Craftsman to me sounds like A. An alright. NASCAR sponsor that makes sense to me I think rely camping world truck is so fun is because it's so weird and then Gander Mountain I think was even weirder perhaps but in my heart, it's camping world. Yeah. It flows good to like. That's where the capping whilst world so I don't want to say we'll. We'll get later. No it's actually not. It's too many syllables because it spends from. What is that from rally? Rolling Start or OH I. Is that what you're doing that date that's the Daytona Rolling. Rolling Start Yeah Yeah. Okay. Yeah. See I forgot the inception of the whole thing. It's all. It's all. I don't know why I tied those together my head but we never heard anything we do on this podcast. Called the button. Yeah. Why don't know that? What's the H. Button? That was playing middle your solid with Dan Reichert and I kept calling the square button on the playstation controller but and I know ideal multiple times. That's wild. Yeah Our brains are confusing things. Finally, hear from Meghan says big PODCAST, but I found your latest comments mcclair Williams decision to resign from Williams to be a disappointment the assumption that Williams decision to bow due to the difficulty being away from kids after spending time with them do to covert nineteen though never mentioned as part of the important factor in her decision except for her genetic memory of family and her statement as being. Frustrating are perpetuating an unspoken gender issue with women nf one as specifically. That women are sorry F. One life are not compatible because of their family obligations, there are many great f one five including Sebastian veteran highlight the importance of found the end the decision making but rarely have I, heard your commentators go into the same types of discussions about children being a deciding factor to their careers as when. The team spoke about Williams while family is a big part of vital even to her and Williams racing legacy. I. Found the comments as having highlighted and perpetuating unfortunate stereotype women F one you're fortunate reality is that Williams is one of the few one and a more nuanced discussion would have been nice to hear instead it was message misogynistic. Sorry. And that was for Meghan at yeah. Apologies I certainly did not mean to perpetuate that stereotype though on. On looking back, I can certainly see them and we were talking about US Clare on to be honest you can't really clear. Williams has been the target of this type of very gendered reporting for the entirety of her career. I. Remember Years Ago. Some really nasty stuff around whether or Nash Williams was underperforming because you just hodge a child I think are per boys maybe two or three years old I think. Yeah and I certainly last week was basically talking about. You know what everyone being back from cove it and people being at home with their families. Again, that sort of reframing stuff I think I talked about that relation to Sebastian battle a couple of weeks prior when we were talking about the Alpha Stephan even now it sounds like that was probably the biggest factor. But I I didn't it is true that like I didn't I didn't talk about kids when I was talking about Sebastian so. In a sort of a broader. Sense but I did specifically say children when it came to Clare. So clearly, even trying to do my best I slipped into the same sort of mindset is a so many. Male viewers of the sports. So my apologies I thought I would do is. To actually talk about the fathers on the grid because it is something that we never really talked about. We sort of assume a lot of MEARNS, dodds. So I did have a research and sure enough a lot of young guys on the podium and they're not they're not parents but I did find four dads on. That all on the. Four well I think Massa would have been. He was he was to be honest. Most of the drivers are fairly secretive about their. Family lives in a way that. Yeah he does he doesn't I. Thought. You know. Look player I guess Magnusson dozens of Otas, vote because this stuff does get dragged up right? Obviously both houses divorce last year ended up being. A. Talking Point. But certainly, Clare Williams when you look at the way and maybe it's different for team principles al-anon ready. Sure M Bush. She has been like her you know being a mother and being an executive being. Personal responsibility and all this other stuff has i. sure. been been mentioned a lot more than any of the drivers. So yeah, I thought I jump at the Sony Obviously Kimi Raikkonen is wanted them. He's got kids pretty young kids. They're like three and four. Am I believe it's a boy and a girl. That'll has three daughters I was born in twenty fourteen. So six year old I guess then. I think there's a five year old girl there as well, and then of course, last year he had a kids ride randy into the season I think she was born when he was Outta Dhabi or something, and so he has three daughters. So when we were talking about him, you know being at home and not giving him a pause to maybe reconsider his his. His career. Obviously, that's it's him and four girls in the house, that's a lot of family I have only. Two of us. Here myself my wife and my daughter so I can't imagine what it's like having. agrosiand he's got three kids. He's got I think it's two girls. I knew he had kids I didn't know at three. Yeah. I didn't realize he three either it's wild and they still managed to write a co write a cookbook together. Doing, right I'm sure you know these people are also incredibly rich. I'm sure you know some of these people who are able to have good chances how the Christian Horner. Yeah. Yeah. They're they're household. Yeah. They had. They had stay at home nineties in that in that shot, right? And then the last one who actually did forgot about with Sergio Perez has a son whose name is Sergio Perez. So so jeff junior presumably. So and I think that's I. think that's all of them. I think obviously, we schumacher years ago. I bet. Alonzo. Generation Louis. But but you know there is you know Botas doesn't so I believe Hamilton. Hasn't been married right. So a lot of them I think that'll actually only got married maybe a couple of years ago they were dating for like ten years him and wife. Yeah. So they go into a lot of weird websites to find information ask because it's all just like these gossip websites on everybody to. Chess I I will take on the Chen that I I did sort of slip into the. I didn't talk about it in in the with the sort of nuanced. Responsibility that they should have given the the the reporting around Clare in the family So yeah, I think it's also easy it. You Megan for Boynton the status of course it's A. It's not a surprise to me that it's a it's a blind spot of but Yeah I think also. The Williams family Inclusive of like frank and as a family team and thinking of the documentary also sort of looms larger as like this. Singular presence right. So I think we can kind of get sucked into like thinking of the family in that respect and like. And the history that they have of putting aside things like feelings for the race. So close her saying like I WANNA, go back to my family is. I interpreted that last says like I need to go. Raise my kids. It's more like I need to figure out what being a a person is like you know instead of someone that's just you know eat sleep breathe racing all day. So yeah. I. Totally Understand. I was thinking that's that's what I was trying to feed into as well in the transition of of her being the caregiver for her father's legacy for so long and then transitioning from that into may perhaps being more of a of a parenting today today. But those two things are not mutually exclusive right? I can I can I can in good faith talking about that but still end up you know being messy when it comes to misogynistic drops and certainly covered both of US bases so. Yeah. But it was it was it was nice to take a moment to look at all the. All the other parents on the on the grid it's crazy. It's you know I have a Mike, my daughter's very young. She's only two and it's it's funny how all the covid stuff has made it. So this even the idea of going to a remote office that I used to do three days a week for couple of hours just seem so much more difficult. You can't imagine what it's like for some of these. People, on the F one teams not just the drivers but the crew and the marketing folks and everyone to be away for so much of the year like really far you know like Super Far Away a lot of time it's wild. There's a lot of people there's a lot of people outracing around the World Danny Oh are they racing? Are they race in a rare as? I couldn't make the transition and I'm sorry. To? Do Better. Let me help because the first event of this weekend is. Campaign were TR-. The Motor speedway for the Utah. Ou know you know you know U. N. H.. It's an acronym. Hard you call that an atomic. Yes. Sure acronyms if you say the words. Well I could say, no, I don't know if that's if that's H. But it's the you know two hundred presented by Ohio logistics. 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Donnie Vincent

Seek Outside Podcast

1:14:52 hr | 1 year ago

Donnie Vincent

"All right we'll back to another episode of the Seagull side podcast. My name is Dennis Kevin is with me today in person were back in person for the for the time being. And then our guest today is Danni instant Donny's in town, and so we get to sit down and chat a little bit How's it going? Good thanks for having me yet. So it's really good to be here. It's really cool to your guys operation and. See a little bit behind the. Buying the products. Really Cool. In, we were just talking about that a little bit before we got on on the podcasts here products, different products mainly that we were looking at Dyneema products, right? superlight lightweight Stachel in in all that and you just got back from the Arctic. Yes. Correct Yep Well, you seem to spend a Lotta time in the Arctic right? A lot of time. Yes. Definitely. My you know. For years I've actually done one now, but for years Guys would ask me you know, why don't you hunt elk? The people wanted to know why? Why aren't you spending time in Colorado or Montana Wyoming Nevada why aren't you out west Hunting Elkin Basically my answer is why elk for some reason? Never. Really triggered that A. Wilderness response to me like I. I really enjoyed seeing them. If I, saw a film of it or photos of it I. appreciate it but. Whenever I started thinking about September I would just skip over the western United States, and immediately we start thinking about Moose Caribou Kersley Bears Donald. So I just would. Just started going to Alaska and one of the most attractive things about going to Alaska for me was. The fish returning every fall. So even when I was their hunting Moose or Caribou could. was almost. Walt Disney ask of seeing these rivers that would fill up with fish. Like. I loved seeing the fish come home and and so you know that was. Just a place that I love to go in the Arctic is just so wide open, but then I did an alcon. Copiers going Nevada and it was. There were aspects of it that I didn't like I've talked about a little bit. There's I bought. I bought a landowner tag that's pretty sought after, and so I ran into way more hunting pressure than I thought I was going to run into I had built up this image in my mind that I was buying one of very few tags for a huge area. I'm going to go in there. I'm not going to see anyone I'm going to see elk behaving like elk. I'm going to be able to get up get off the road get away from people. I very quickly realized Western type hunting. Every guy that had a tag had twenty guys helping him. There were side by sides and four wheelers and spotting scopes I. I'd go up a mountain road and I'd see four or five different groups of guys all in little clusters around the side by side are pickup truck with spotting scopes on you know the tripods at her up at six feet and everyone's just glancing for for their body that either drew the tagger somebody. that bought tag or or whatever. So that was. Not Very. Appealing to me, I didn't enjoy that when I finally got away from. People and started hunting. It was incredible like hearing the Bulls Bugle and we got back in this My crew and I hiked up in this box canyon. And we dug out these little camp spots. Had these little. Little route shelters I would've loved to have some guy shelters and some of these situations. What was a shelter we just looked at. The little one. Yeah. The SILEX silence I would've I would've given my right leg to have the silence in that scenario and so we dug out this. You know and I read in books about guys hunting elegant old school guys doing some of this stuff in wearing this big box canyon we dug into this hillside in the sun was starting to set his quiet. No one was in there In this big bowl started just walking up and down the rim on the. I think it would be the west side of the Canyon. He just started walking up on the RIM bugling. Dark. Slightly after dark like he was already dark as you know, and so you could see the twilight. You could see kind of the orange glow over the sun had went down in the sky was turning blue. The stars are just starting to pop. And he was walking up there bugling and is just Hair, stand up on the back of my neck. Goosebumps. Instantly at that moment I thought. Oh. Yeah. Okay. Now I know what everyone's talking about now I now I understand it. But yeah, that's The Arctic to me it's. Watching Caribou migrate. CBA movable. Bowl when seen the salmon so yeah, just you know I I get what you're saying the elk hunting. Sometimes, it's an absolute shit show to put it politely. Yeah. one of my more memorable times was. Few years ago. It was me my son who you met last night at dinner and a friend of Mine Chris we packed up we took a six-man teepee. And it was funny because we packed in, we got in there and Friday the season started. Saturday. And we were just kind of walking around on this flat kind of Mesa area and area is area that I was telling you about hunting early. and. A five by runs up to US thirty yards. Just looks at us and then turns around and goes off his bugling. It was probably about four dark and we were like. Too Bad it wasn't season already, right that night. A herd of elk moved in about one hundred and fifty, two, hundred yards from our tent and they started bugling talking all night long we could hear them fighting. We didn't sleep I mean it happened about maybe nine or ten at night, and all of us were in that We're all like tomorrow is going to be so freaking awesome I mean we could hear music the little drainage right below us and stuff. So we took about ten minutes in the morning to get out of our tent I mean just opening the. Zipper. So slowly we were just like we crawled out, you know I mean. Anyway the snow was a little crunchy and there is a little bit of mixed snow that turned out the awkward just over on the other side of some trees that we needed to get around to get a clear shot. And from there while we were doing that, he's Jack Legs Call Him Jack Legs On horses which I thought this trail was a little steep for horses. They fired at about seven hundred plus yards Adam from the way those we were literally probably within a hundred yards of them we just needed to get around a couple of spruce trees and we had you know all of them ran off. The came riding up on their horses. All super aggressive, right? We're like I didn't. You could hear them. They're like, well, guess we missed on CNN I'll just drop right So we did a little then how it changed those elk. Was Immense because the night that night, they'd been two hundred yards from our camp. All night. Long mewing talking. We never saw elk wasn't running for his life. The rest of that hunt I found blood from where they thought they had missed obviously. It was probably muscle shot wasn't didn't look like it was bleeding. But it hit something right. But after that I mean we saw one L. Run bias thirty, five miles an hour talk. We couldn't get near him and it was amazing. Elk when they`re Pressured versus. Pressured. The pressure dislike they hole up they they make noise. It is so hard to get anything. And then when they aren't pressured. Are you find some in some base nobody goes in W laying out above timberline talking in the middle of the day. You know like they don't have a care in the world really. That's what you want. Hunter. That's what I want to go places. It's you hunt. Even big big chunks of public or big chunks of private if you're able to like you to see animals behaving like animals and that's maybe one of the biggest reasons that I go. To already know and and I. Can you know I, hire a pilot and I tell them where we wanna go and flies in drops us off and very rarely do I see other people and get to see animals behaving like animals but I did I did when I finally. I didn't do it on my own I had no really no idea how to hunt elk and of really good friend of mine in Nevada atom Russia's his name he's. was He does a lot of guiding there and so he said I can only help you one morning but I'll bring I'll I'll go with you tomorrow morning and I'll show you the ropes and we hunted for. Ten or twelve days already, and we could've shot. We could've shot elk almost every day but. Nothing. That was really That I wanted to aero and so. He came out with US and He said I know there's one spot. He said, we'll go back in there. We should have it all to ourselves and I said, okay. You think someone he said, yeah it's it's. It's a stinker to get back in there, and so we should have it to ourselves, but it took us. You know. Four hours to get back in there. Some it wasn't a stinker at all beautiful walk in and it was rainy misty morning and we found a big old bowl and call them in and and You know Friday of circumstance that I'm getting but. That was cool and I learned a lot from him in just A. You know they'll repealing over here but I would just stare at them figure out what was doing to focus. It's our form for sure. So on the Arctic trips yeah. I mean how much planning goes into those you spend a lot of time out in the field on those Do you scholar maps looking for a different spot every time just to explore new country or do you go into areas that you've maybe had some familiarity or is there been some someone say, Oh, you should check out this drainage or or are you just at home and like I think the spot looks good I mean. We'll pour over maps and we'll, and as we've gone, you know I've we've gone to areas where you know we thought Oh we're GONNA be overrun with care like we know generally that this is where they go this looks like a really humpty spot. Will land there, and in fourteen days we'll see. Five Caribou or something like that, and then you know then we'll start to learn like. Well, we saw a lot of carer heading over this drainage way over here. You know you start to kind of pick that apart or last year we're doing a haunt up there in Brian Albert's a good friend of mine. He's a pilot Katsu and he runs a company called. Ram. Aviation is an amazing Bush pilot I've flown with them for years. And He is they're flying every single day so like when we came into into the area, we're like, you know we wanNA start over here and he said, well, I encourage you to go over here because the Cara have been doing something weird. The last couple of years where they've been heading south kind of towards the village. But, then after they're there for a week or two, they'll turn around they're turning around and heading back now. East and then swinging way south below the village and he's like just kind of this funny little pattern they've had that they've been doing. So you know we're getting our our gear neck down our camera gear knack down. Because we have to mess with solar power. That's how we power all stuff out there and then Then we've now gotten to the point where we're taking a number of batteries, right? So we'll take. You know. Keep the numbers to myself but. Essentially like we take four batteries, night gets a so much time in. So then we do solar power will then we'd take six batteries and okay. So that's going to you know, and so we're trying to Rob Peter to pay Paul because if as war burning juice up. You're you're at a losing battle for sure unless you're GONNA have a lot of sunny days which up there you're just not gonNA. Have a sunny days. Yeah. So it's just generally not that way. So. We've gotten to where we're. trink shrinking shrinking down. But that's it's dialing in your gear because when you're taking that many guys, it's a lot of food. And then you've got all the camera gear you know is pretty heavy and so but it's just about figuring out areas that you really like our. Rivers that you like. In a float trip that you want to do but things have gotten a little weird up there as of late. You know the world is weird and I'm. Not GonNa. Have some opinions, but I'll keep them to myself. But there are certain rivers there that you can't as a non native non subsistence non resident. You cannot float these rivers you can float the rivers all you want, but you can't flow the rivers with Mussa care meet in your boat. So? Essentially. Certain parameters are set up. To make it difficult to hunters region. So if you want to float if you want to Hunt Care Bruin in this region, and then you want to get on this beautiful river and you WanNa float all the way out to axe and then have your pilot, pick you up there. It's not illegal for you to float down this river corridor with Caribou meat and your boat because they want to leave this. Corridor. Open for people that live in the village and and They don't want non residence in their pressuring the animals and so I you know I certainly can understand that. But there's even up there there's you know there's laws you have to follow an aries you have to go to and and you start to figure it out last year we were there we and I saw the first time I've ever seen a true migration. I've seen. You know I've had days where I've seen five, six, seven, hundred Caribou but last year I was there and you know in the day we saw. Five thousand Caribou you hunting more the western Arctic or the Eastern Western Arctic. Yes. You're usually flying. Yeah. That's generally. I have a trip right now set up next year to fly with forty mile and. And I have an area that that I have lined out to to give it a shop but. We'll see how that. Flow forty extra to this year or next year extra because don't because we delayed this year. So everything was all and I was going to go back to copy this year but it. It. Was Weird it was tough tough one of our early customers. Early cuts customers per year one or two. Used to run a trap line alcott to Byu and it had a small teepee and a stove, and they would give us field reports of well managed to keep it warm in sixty below zero and they would go around their snowmobiling. They had like a three hundred mile trap line route that they would cover other snowmobiles. So yeah, you know I did a trip there one time. This is really cool. But pilot he he totally and I regret not making the most of this trip but it was really cool. I drew a tag which is not even available anymore to non-residents up. There was amazing tag I did not kill a moose. I got. So I was seeing such big bowls that I got really picky and ended up basically chasing my tail the whole time but. The pilot dropped us off and. And we stayed for twenty three days. And so when he picked us up. And it's really cool and I, want to do a trip like this again but he dropped us off his basically you know highs in the fifties and sixties all the orders green grasses were green at the whole Arctic Green you their bugs nothing it started turning yet. The Moose were velvet It was just cool and then. You know we stayed there for twenty days at the end of twenty three days. You know things were freezing all the leaves turn. Brown and fallen off like we watched this total progression in twenty three days of watching the Arctic go from summer to fall and actually starting to kind of kiss winter. And when he picked us up. You know like most Bush pilots even though this guy's really really good and really cool. He's kind of putting our gear in the airplane. He's just talking to me like know you guys have a good? Hans or eating get one you know and I said knows what we had our opportunities and we did and. Then he goes to. Seen Black Bears. I said Yeah we saw several black bears and. Some stunning stunning black bears and and again IDA black bear tag. But but I was fixated on the move. So I just was kind of passing the bears and he said, did you see grizzly bears I said yeah, we saw several. several bears themselves with Cobb's this one massive bore. We would see him like every three or four days. He would kind of just traverse this valley in front of US hunting ground squirrels. You know whatever else us after? These you know. Did you see any? Did you see any Moose of what did you see for most we saw tons of Moose. Tons of cows they said, do you see any big bowls like we saw? Multiples that I would put. Mid Sixties over seventy multiples. Big Ones. And he's like what else did you say so we saw Moose fighting we literally saw these two. Boone and Crockett level massive seventy inch bowls. We could see them about a mile apart. Could see them calling to each other it was too far for us to go after them. There was like seven miles from our camp, but you see them calling and then they move into woodland and then wanted to move into a pasture and then you'd see him calling and raking treason they move a little bit closer. We wash them until they met in a meadow and just had brutal fight we wash this whole thing. And then we saw packs of wolves and and You know eight blueberries. We saw the northern lights. We had really bad weather and we had really great weather and all of this stuff kind of culminated. In he he he just looked at me and he's like, I just love the state out here for twenty three days and solve this. Because people come to me all the time and they. WanNa. Fly In for four five six days but they tell him. I. WanNa see all of this stuff I want to see the Moose the care with the Grizzlies, the blackbirds, the wolves, a northern lights. And, and he's like you're not going to see you know you'll never see that in five or six days, and so he he loved the fact that we stayed there for twenty three days and solve this stuff and really experienced became part of the landscaping and that's really why we like to stay for a long time. That's truly That's the number. One reason just start to become part of the landscape. I have a question You sound like you do a lot of September caribou stuff. on my research and I may be absolutely ignorant on this. Heard that by mid-september, they start getting ready in a ruddy Caribou is an awful Caribou. Practically inedible verses were alker, edible readiness and stuff. What have you run into a nut? Totally fine. Really I've not found one to be on edible yet are or even really very I've had some I've had some. So let's say the boy killed last year he was. An exceptional. Bowl. But he. There's been bits and pieces of him that. Haven't been the best to eat, but there's but it's just been certain packages right? You know I'll pull out some innocent just fantastic and then all of a sudden I'll pull you see. Just put a little bit more salt and pepper on that one. Goal but yeah. Yeah that's a moose that was a customer of ours. That's a move that went and talking um he. had. A had a bear incident where a bear busted into their tent and they ended up killing the bear but that was the Mousse got in the trip. That's a moose. That's an Alaska Russia. Those Alaska. Yeah Moose. We'll try to throw a picture that. When the heck we're looking at yeah yeah. Any other places besides the Arctic were you try to spend twenty days at a time I mean to be honest with you most you know like I don't do it very often but even even when I'm hunting y tells. You know I like to dedicate. Twelve fourteen days when or even longer if I can like if I can be away that long business wise and away from home that long you know just. again watching. Watching the woods come to life watching songbirds migrate through in areas you're going from September and October. Watching the leaves change washing the deer go from full velvet into losing their valid to sparring into making scrapes, robs and Just. Just along. I can spend out there the you know the better but and then I did some stuff in Australia to that was. A really good friend in Australia named Nick Joyce and we've done some long form hunting in Australia and that is with him. He's a bugger like he's you know we're getting in jeeps and we're going over here and we're GONNA hike down in this ravine and what's next like been here. On. Our own and he's like just you know just don't walk near any water. You know there's one rule with the crocodiles where. Crocodiles. Don't touch any snakes although he he always says like you might you're the first guy ever met that's coming here. Hunting looking for snakes well, but but like we you know it's even there. You know the longer we're there we see. All these different things we filmed the we got a bit of film there You know some people are proud of the animals that they they harvest when they hunt you know big alker, big moose or big dall sheep whatever it is, and I I am as well. But I'm also extremely proud and probably way more part of the things that we filmed. Bird or snake or Predatory things and you know a few years ago in Australia we filmed. a pack of dingos hunting. A pack of water buffalo they're all these singles we watched them come in. We could watch the dingoes they're bringing in their circle and just like wolves do with just like wolves do with care. But whatever they formed essentially an ambush and they descended on this calf and tried to hunt and kill her film the whole thing, and I'll never forget this and. You know we all want to be honest men, but sometimes I might say, Hey, Dennis, have you ever seen this and you might. Blindly be like Oh. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You know you've ever seen to three hundred fifty inch L. Fight Oh. Yeah. Yeah. Even though you might not have. and. So every year we. We Watch these dingoes try to kill this calf. and. Then the dingoes turned on us. When they couldn't kill the cath date, we're all sitting down and I love my crew for this. We're all sitting down and the dingoes are stampeding the water buffalo right into us like there. And I just said to everyone we're all just sitting there and I said nobody moves like we. Were filming this until the last second like even if we're going to get run over like just protect yourselves you're getting run over it. Let's just stay steadfast. And of course, the as the water buffalo sprinting right at us. They got to probably like twenty yards and a saw like, Hey, there's some you know they're. They're not a big dumb animal. They see us an awful. Then the as they've off the Dingo see us. You see instantly the dingoes thought Oh. Well here's a prey item. You can just see it in their minds like smaller than here. We're just yet here's salting easier, but then like. Fifteen. Seconds went by and you could just see another lightbulb. This isn't gonNA work out. For us. Is Not, GonNa work out for us and so they kind of skirted us on. They're kind of like loping by looking at us like you might envision a coyote doing. And I looked at nick and I said, when's the last time you saw that and he just said NAPA. Napa Mate. And then we released that footage in All these dingle researchers from Australia start calling us and they said, we've never even heard of this nobody's seen it. Nobody's filmed that nobody's even heard of it. Nobody nobody knew that dingoes repack hunting. Asiatic water buffalo no one has ever seen this and so you know I'm more proud of that than than I. Am the the Buffalo trip but you see those things when you spend time in areas sure yeah yeah. It's funny that a lot of animals. Are. Far Better hunters. Than than than the bulk of US humans. You know and and the cunning like I had two instances with mountain lions. that have given me a lot of respect for my boy. I always thought there was this one area where elk come through this crack Narok between the ridges and I always thought man I. Bet you that's a great place and there's a happens to be a bunch of hunters in the area that's part of an escape route and I should just go for hunting season. Right in that crack and just wait for something just take it easy. So. Snowed one day and I thought I'm going to go in there and see what ought. From the tracks before hunting season went in there there was mounting lion tracks all over that crack. Like never mind dumb idea. He says, no, please busy. Exactly. Please, under that tree you. Spend the night. And say here I'll rough a little a little tougher. Don't worry about the. Off. That's funny but yeah, is there. Is a lot of interesting things to see in and you start doing things like that. You start picking things apart and then you start seeing a line is using this area to you know. find his skills and same with grizzly bears. I've. I've found ambushed bots in the Arctic by just watching you know like. One of the things that I love to do in hunting care booze you just sit back and watch him in the first. Few herds will do you know the the next hurdle do kind of what the first few herge doing. So I was walking, I was watching these hurts go through this little dip it. It'd be great spot to ambush with bowl. I go down there. I go into this little and I can see where a grizzly bear like there's dead care everywhere not not fresh ones but he's whoever's been here has been killing here for years during the fall migration, and so I ended up starting with a buddy of mine and we call that area the grizzlies kitchen. So we started you know because as we would split up, he'd say where are you going on I'm GonNa go just east of the grizzlies kitchen he's Hale I'm going up here on the plateau or whatever. But like same thing like we saw that as a great ambushed bobby went down there obviously someone else. Someone else and even you let me last night when we were at dinner you and Kyle were were talking about this cunningness of squirrels see. That serious. A lot of a lot of detail right like. The more time you spend obviously twenty, twenty, seven days. You just You pattern you see things you learn. You see things happen more than once maybe in you're like okay. So that's That's how it goes or that's where they go. That's why I was. It was it froze overnight. So they're here instead of here you you learn all of those things in in time. Yeah. in in pick up on those patterns and just the more time you can spend obviously when you're. When you first like opening day the season is way different than day thirty. Yes. Our tree elk season. That's when you're passing the three fifty's that are sparring. Yeah the first. Big. One. But they? Also where some of the ROMANCE COMES FROM For US outdoorsman and You know if if you have a GRANDPA that has an old you know while I whole right he hasn't spent. He hasn't spent thirty days. In that wall I whole washing the season's progress but he's went there one or two times a week three times a week. As the seasons have progressed. So his his experience in that area that river system that lake has added up you know whether it's fishing mosque's or Walis Rainbow Trout or whatever these things are adding up to where you know your fishing with them where you're spending time with an old timer something that's done it. You know they can tell you stories because they spent so much time in this particular area. They have a lot of experience. You know they have a big data set of. That they can tell you about what what happens when the water turns coal what happens when the water's too hot? What happens when is too high and you know that's where we start to get our wisdom of being woods month or month who's the former biologist I was telling you about let's I would love to get him on the podcast but I think he's maybe a little podcast shy or whatever but but he has some stories and he has. Some conservation opinions that are really entertaining to listen to. Anyway, he told me the story and the he was probably like sixty five or so at this time, it was hunting with llamas yet goat tag in. Colorado you went up in the high country with his llamas and he did very much the same thing. He was there like two three weeks waiting for the goats to come down a little bit just from weather right? He'd made himself a topic suit. And he had. And he had a white hat yet at he put a couple. I haven't done that. Point wouldn't they win the goats got down to where he thought. Okay. That was a good time to go kill you. But he sat there two three weeks just watching them right Then he started he put on his white suit, this topic suit and his white hat and he took his long though I think it was long re that he had and he just started walking right into him and if they looked put his head down, pretend he was. Grazing, and then he would you know when they look away move a little closer the ended up airway one with his at tribal and that that's incredible. Incredible hunting. That's you know that's his way into building. He's way into making decoys and stuff home, and so he you know like the topic sued or or things that will attract a moose in like an Alaska, he's got he's got some super interesting stories and he's also a hell of a bird hunter. It's funny because I was talking to somebody and they were like, yeah. I want to hunt down in Arizona a bird hunt and I went down there and they were like, well, we meet your guide here in here comes month or is the guide he was just guide he lives in Montana you so winters in Arizona just eating and stuff. So interesting cat young birds. Birds in I think in the you're recent film that just came out the You do some kind of see duck hunting and you talk about if maybe if you could do only one thing, it'd be a duck hunting. Yeah. Yeah. So, like. What's that? What's that progression? Did you start duck hunting before you did anything else? You know we're. You know duck hunting's like one of those things where. It's an investment, right? It is you decoys. Cheap. Yeah. You need a lot of them sometimes depending on where you are. Yes. if you're going to the DAKOTAS kind of these fields open-field, you need a lot of decoys. Trailers lights and all that stuff. Will. Like. Why Waterfowl Like. Did you start there and then. Obviously, still a fair amount I do and I'm probably GonNa Actually GonNa start even doing a little bit more here and there, but I So I started really with. Squirrels and rabbits like we're talking last like for I took squirrel hunting very seriously I used to go out with my dad. Occasionally he would take me Squirrel hunting in for my dad like I was describing. Hunting for my dad was really a walk in the woods it was it was loading I, remember the woodstock of the guns that we carry in our member. Whether it twelve gauge shell or loading the clip bomb of a little twenty two or having A. You know the barrel loaded twenty. Little cylinder. Like. And we were just walk around and it'd be eating. It would be eating an apple you know and it would be eating You know this that or the other thing, and so that's what we did. But then I ran into somebody's and they said you do you do done and I said, no, you know and so I start talking to these guys a little bit in the. a couple of had hunting magazines, and so I grabbed them, I've grabbed the hunting magazines and. I started reading about docking and I realized that Like this I couldn't find real adventure with. With doing some conning and so I would. Go into Gander Mountain or CABELA's wherever it was and I buy. A couple things but I finally save up by six maller decoys and then the waiters and then you know the headlamp and and And when I was. A senior in high school I saved up my money. This is so weird. Even think about this stuff nobody's save up my money and I knew I was working at a veterinarian S- place at the time, and there is a dog groomer that. Shared an office with this veterinarian that I worked for life she would train hunting dogs. Now she really loved training hunting dogs, and so she had a hunting dog named Clare That dog is still one of the loves of my life, but she had this hunting dog named clair that just wasn't cutting it on her field trial circuit. So she said shoot was just telling me one day. She's like I gotta get rid of Clare and I man I can I buy her and she's like she's pretty expensive. Auto Care how much you know when she said I, forget what I paid for it but it was like. Twelve hundred dollars for for Clare. It's so as twelve hundred dollars. So I don't you know twelve hundred dollars one point, two, million to me. Yeah. So she said how about how about you can take Clare Right now and And you can pay me a hundred dollars a month. And I said deal one, hundred dollars a month I could do. So I was still living at my parents and so. So I bought Clare had decoys. For me, it was just I now had an adventure that I could do on my own. That was as big, and it still is to meet today. It was as big as any adventure I've ever been on. It was just as big as going to hunt and Russia, going to the Arctic circle or rafting a river like loading up my decoys having my dog, my headlamp, my gun. In. I'd sneak down these little rivers near my parents house in Minnesota and and throw out decoys and it'd be snowing I had my dog. You know cocoa and Donuts, and it was it was it was as big an adventure as you could have and then. Gander Mountain used to sell bigfoot decoys bigfoot deal. And they would sell them for twenty four, ninety, nine, a decoy. Sure. So as I started making more money every I told myself every time I going to get a mountain I'm GonNa Buy One Slide, by goose decoy than I by one third one, fourth one, I remember I used to go out could fit six of them on my arms. So if I found a field where geese and Dr Landing in I six on walkout there set him out and so I just slowly kept growing my waterfall stuff and Then, I bought a little enclosed trailer until I just just like what you said, I started going to the DAKOTAS and like going to north North Dakota duck hunting was as. I mean I might as well be on a one to. Is Incredible in. so that's how it progressed. You know, and then I started doing that I picked up a ball and then introduced a whole nother obsession if you will and hunting big game with a bone so I had my. My Squirrel hunts which I took very serious and then I had my. Water. Paul Hunter J took very serious in the night and I started boll hunting, and then I started boning when I was late though I was In my twenties Sharon also then then I started doing biology work and so all of this stuff has been like. I'm telling stories but all this stuff is really pretty truncated down like I haven't. I don't really have a lot of experience I'm still figuring my way every day that I'm doing this own it's it's it's it's all it's all been a learning curve. Yeah in. I don't I don't think I appreciate enough of the things that I was able to do when I was younger like thanks to my my dad dragging me to the DAKOTAS. Yeah we win every year old cotton. We didn't have a ton of decoding. We hunted them like we would hunt northern Wisconsin like, yeah jumping. And they just kind of figuring out where they're gonNA go like watching them like you would be game or anything, but they're going to go there tonight. Okay. We'll. Maybe we need one we gotta figure out who owns that yeah go figure. By yeah, yeah the little. Twelve year old was a pretty good pretty good. Chances Ns you go off. Yeah Yeah in just appreciating that like being able to hunt those places we we actually we don't have a ton of headsets here but but kyle, who we were talking about a little bit before has joined us here Howdy howdy. In, we were talking last night about that squirrel hunting and growing up, you grow up with these. What seem like big adventures in they are But they definitely get downplayed later in life when you start hunting white tails l. like chasing. Squirrels. Don't get the play maybe and especially now I think people are trying to accelerate their youth. So you know now, when I I I've had this brought up to me. So many many times in recent years guys are you know? Let's say, Hey, here's my son Dennis. He's ten he's already shot. You know Caribou Moose Black Bear. Grizzly. Bear like he's you know he's already done this and I just think, oh, that's Unfortunate. Very unfortunate. What's left again? Yeah I mean it. You know there's a lot of provisions being provided for them where it's you know like. I I think it's growing up with your dad and squirrel hunting and sitting on the stand like you're describing I. think that's I. think that's really amazing. Yeah. I, mean you're doing your time in the woods you're coming to appreciate the failure of it. You know he's a lot of time not seeing. Dear. Nazi and squirrels It's all it's all part of the Endeavour you know yeah and building a better mousetrap right when you when you this is how it worked for me my dad was a good hunter he he's heard me say that. It's funny. Now, here's the season in magazine articles years it on podcast. He sees it like in the film and he's like Hey. Hey, he masks. And so. But for me wanting to be successful and I actually had a had a falling out. It's a little strong I had A. A friend of mine we're in high school just out of high school. Pretty serious discussion one time where duck hunting we had a pretty serious discussions like man I don't even know if I want to hunt with. and. I said why is that and he's like you're obsessed with success and he's like all you WanNa do is kill. and. That couldn't be further from the truth. But for him. Duck hunting was. Get your decoys find, pond. And just go set out your decoys and enjoy the sunrise and I thought. Well. That's really great but. How about we drive around in the truck for four hours and find the pond that all the ducks, WanNa on, and we do exactly what you WanNa do. But this time we have hundreds of ducks landing in our decoys rather than. Just looking at absolute mirror glass water. Say. Well, you know he didn't really want to drive around for the four hours. He didn't WanNA carry decoys a mile across the prairie into a hidden pond or into a little hidden riverine so like like you said, you sit there. Putting your time in the woods were you wanna go squirrel hunting and you're not killing squirrels and you're not eating squirrels. Then you better start figuring out how to find squirrels and how to kill scroll down east girl. So then you start becoming a better, you know it's just like going on your favorite fishing hole and you cast at this bigger rain bone he doesn't take the fly you know and you cast by times and you're like, okay what? I have to change fly or after chains presentation or have to come here at night I've to do something to get him to eat and then so you start like the trunk Kate down these experiences you know what I mean, and there's there are shortcuts. But there are none of them will get you really where you WANNA, go. Yeah. And Carlino. We're putting on the spot a little bit but we we've been talking about squirrel hunting last night, which is we didn't want to touch on. So you recently you've been in. Colorado. For a going on seven years seven years recently started working for seek outside and I I here's your chasing bears around and then as soon as that's over is like Is soon as that's over small game starts and you're like, I'm going squirrel like. You know you're you're a grown man right in that doesn't happen a lot I. don't I don't talk to people that are like I'm GonNa, get tomorrow's open squirrel hunting. There's an opening day for small season. In season. Yeah. And then, and then you were just telling us about your wife getting into getting into hunting in squirrels in in all of that there's any stories in there that yeah, I, mean. So you know. She's new all this stuff and she's more and more shown interest and enthusiasm for it Last year, we were out some public access walk inland in East Colorado. took her out twenty two. She actually gone rabbit hunting with me a few times didn't didn't harvest anything didn't kill anything. So then there we are. It's today she's okay with it. She said I really want to get a rabbit rabbit. Give her the twenty two we're going along kick and juniper bushes trying to kick them out. I guess arrive at jumps out I. Just see her draw up with twenty two and she goes cut and tell Pao she called it out she called her shot. David, attenborough? and. On the ride home she says, I want to go elk hunting. Next step. Okay. Rabid had had it was it a conversation like that was the progression anyways had you've been going elk hunting? So we spent a Lotta time hiking in the last ten years Run into a lot of wildlife and we even you know we're vegetarians for six years. She was actually a Vegan do most of that time you know health health driven thing and so it was always out there again I grew up in the woods all the time squirrels, rabbits, deer. Yeah, let's go. But Yeah, I'd say her interest came back. When you're always in the woods and then you step away for while we lived in downtown Denver. You start to miss it a little bit and by the end of our time there we spent over time rabbit hunting and squirrel hunting getting away and I was fly fishing the Platte in the middle. Downtown. Every day you know Her her progression is. I think she knew it was out there I used to talk about Paconota elk and she'd go. That's crazy. She's crazy. That's Oh, it's just just a couple of hundred pounds of meat. Yeah. We're ultralight hikers. What's fun time and so We twenty pounds and I'm like all you gotTa do is look sixty pounds on. Yeah. Let's listen sound. So that doesn't. A few times. And That was one of the funny. We once upon a time had this in our head that. We could were we're good at mileage and we're good with twenty or thirty pounds so. We'll just pack out enough like all day for two days. You know there's no such thing as meat spoilage. Yeah and that's really funny. In. So you said you grew up hunting. Every Where'd you grow up? So West Central Georgia Chattahoochee River. that. Part of the world right there. Okay. white till white till Whitehill. Whitehill. Squirrels squirrels was the other big one and you're saying it's with your dad going out. In the woods I I remember that time my four ten. Being told, you can go on your own you know like you don't have to go with me and your uncle going you're in those first early adventures hunting by yourself. You don't get anything but yeah, IT'S A. Play, that was formative how I? Have a great story so. I have to be twelve. I would imagine I was twelve maybe thirteen, but I could definitely hunt probably for the first time. That was the legal age back then, right? Yes. Twelve in Wisconsin that was like a coming you know coming of age like that was I've been training for that for the last six years. Yeah I training aging yeah, you need. Some twelve my dad it's a Saturday my dad's working on. Saturday. He's driving past this property that we can hunt that we get permission to hunt on We have Tristan setup I kind of know where it is. So he pulls into the driveway. He's you know you just go down the driveway. You know fairly long walk in, pass their house into the backfield's of their house and their farm across the field in Detroit Stanton. Twelve Bo. Dark. Flashlight. Meg. No headlamps at that point in my life, you're GonNa able to make light walking in and. I can hear something move in. Like I get close to the tree tagging movement and I just like sit down. It's a bear. Bear. Is Noise in Dr in the darkness. For, sure it's there and I sit in the middle of this alfalfa field until it gets light out. Waiting to see that bear coming at me and it's a raccoon. Enough and I'm looking at serve little raccoon running around in the ALFALFA. Okay. Well, there's there's my first day. So hunting even make it to my tree stand until it got way past light out. Pressure. Yeah those those formative years beginning years. And then and then chasing. Everything right I remember. I remember getting sick. I can go to school but I wasn't sick enough to like. You know have to stay home necessarily go trout fishing. best-ever Bike down your do that. I don't know that I ever went squirrel hunting I was it was more of A. What are you? GonNa do today go squirrel hunters like all right I'm GONNA go over here. I would just go. Yeah. Just go. Chase everything through the woods. It was just being in the woods I mean that's what it really was. That's the beauty of small game. It's a high volume thing. You'RE GONNA get a lot of opportunities lot of skunks but that's all right. You get zeroes days would just unbelievable amounts of opportunity and it allows you to really hone in a lot of the skills and a whole lot of that patients. You know when you say skunks you mean like now like skunks. Did kick up Scott just the other day. Are you did you yeah. Backup. We, your wife wasn't going Scott. She's going to take it down. It's funny. Actually, have. Yeah, Roadkill Squirrel. PULLOVER get a little less of them yet. You get a little less sometimes if they if they don't have any marks on be forewarned, they are probably really busted on the inside learned that the hard. Hit hit. Yeah yeah pronounce interesting there's No. There's not a lot of Pressure it's silly to say. You know if you're looking for Docs, you're gonNA find other guys that are looking for Docs. If you're looking for elk, you're certainly going to find other people looking for Elkin Mueller season. And But if you go looking even like even pheasants or even sharpies or quail a, you're going to run into other guys looking for that animal. But if you WANNA GO SQUIRREL HUNTING To say, but squirrel may even rabbits. You know you're going to have the woods yourself a lot of the woods to yourself. And I can remember. Coming out of the woods. I think limit was seven when I was hunting with my dad and I never shuttle them it with my dad I shot view limits when I was by myself where we would split up. And I remember coming out with seven squirrels and just thinking like man live like their tails look at their bodies. You know when I get home and I'd skin them and we would quarter them, and then we will take backdraft essentially right? We take the little I think we'd clip the rich off and then we'd have little spine we'd. Throw them in a frying. Dust them with flour salt and pepper, and some seasonings put them in a pan with butter or a little bit of oil and. Chicken Wings and th. It's really good. It's really it is really good and now actually now that I think about. Twice Eaten Mountain Line. And it's one of my favorites and now that I actually think about people often ask me to describe what it tastes like I always say flavorful pork. Now. That I even think about it they they taste just what grey squirrels tastes like kind of tastes like a flavorful chicken or a flavorful pork and that's what that's what Motley he's like. But it's it's definitely it's something I just had. So the guy that I had the falling out with or the discussion about our hunting tactics, he just text me the other day he's he's A. Big Time lawyer now but he just text me of the day and he said Hey when you get back from your next trip, let's go squirrel hunting. Let's sneak out and go on 'cause and I'm I'm into it man like I'm definitely going to I wanted I've noticed as I do bigger and bigger trips and do bigger and bigger films which I still love to do love it and I'll do it the rest of my life. But I also WANNA dial back to doing some and I drew drew a waterfall tag this year in South Dakota installment had out there with a Probably, a Radcliffe and my Labrador. Obviously, I'm Clare my first one she's far gone, and then I had one a Maggie she's far gone, and now I have one name so Elliott I will load up in the pickup truck and we'll go set up a radcliffe on the edge of A. on the edge of a pond and will camp and have a fire and. Shoots him and eat them and and and I'm looking forward to that as much as I'm looking forward any she or anything else that I've ever done and that's That's a fact. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah the. Are Powerful experiences. And there are some obviously for for telling these stories There's some nostalgia for that like going back to I mean just remembering when I was twelve like cowering. With a raccoon nineteen like Jason me through the dark. Obviously, was much bigger than that I. Love I love that you said it had to be a bear. I thought reading always yeah. Anything that makes noise noise. Until proven otherwise. Yeah. I had a friend of mine recently said, he does it bother you. When you walk out at night. By unpicked Cornfield. You know does. that. Bother you at all. I said No. He he just he's creeped out by corn meal just just like the movement just it's always moving and shimmering, and you know there's been some movies Gno Stephen King wrote A. Book about. Children. Are the corner. and. So it's like always been this kind of spooky thing and he's bought into that you know and. and. He. You know he said, do you ever suppose what's in there? I said other than corn he said well, yes. Obviously. I said no, I don't. I've never fallen into that spooky. Even you know even going through all those and Alaska night with a sheep on your back and there's Grizzly bears like walking on fresh tracks like. I just haven't had I personally haven't had those experiences yet. I've been charged a few times, but I haven't had that really scary encounter. That gets like my hackles raised on my neck. But I, have friends that have you know friends that have had to shoot a few grizzlies that we're GONNA make contact and I haven't had that yet but It's just funny what our minds to you know an on Jack O'Connor had an awesome quote and I won't I won't get anywhere near correct but. He said basically not billing izing, but basically making the blackberry big scary animal makes the woods in the field in the woods much more enjoyable because if there's a monster in them, we enjoy our time a field that much more. If we know he's a docile creature that is basically like a bovine with canines the woods as fun as it is if we think there's a monster amongst us. So I mean I really love that I love that notion. Same. With grizzly bears as yeah. They they. It changes your experience with the landscape win those things are around. either. Proceed. Kevin. Kevin issuing a picture of his dog. Experts. Expert all the patients in the world. Gets interest have you read? Forget that title. Roderick Nashes Book. Man I'm GonNa, Forget the name of it wilderness. Wilderness. In the American way I have the. University of Minnesota is like a thesis that he wrote as his like doctoral thesis or something that turned turned into a book. And he talks about that the conquering wilderness. was was you know it was big and scary? So it was justifiable to go out and conquer the Wilderness, and then once we once we did that Kinda in the lower forty eight as it were when when Alaska came up into like Oh, we need this. We need to save the fact that it's dangerous that it's spooky like the boogeyman lives in the trees like we need to save that on because we we essentially just got rid of it. You know. Willingness in the American Mind I. Think is okay with the book it's really good that talks through kind of. We conquered in. The back with like Oh wait we need to change our perspective on on conquering the Boogeyman or finding the boogeyman chasing him out and we need him there. Today the harbor untouched. Yeah. In chosen let Grizzly bear scare the shit out of us. You know we we need that on the landscape or something is lost. Circuit appreciate that. Very much. Yeah. Yeah interesting. Anything else that we need to talk about we've been talking for like an hour or something any other questions or? Things that you all I've enjoyed it. I'd actually this is Kevin. Again. I'd actually like to hear a little bit about your process in the storytelling. in your films and. And you know how do you go about that? I mean is is there something you're trying to convey or is it just the connection to the woods or is it just you the marketing of it? I? Mean we know things made for TV or screen and stuff. Yeah. So there's there's definitely a process and it starts. I just I just used this quote the other day when I was talking to somebody I was doing an interview and and Aita. Photography I had a photography professor in in. A shooting some photos actually a heart surgery I I used to work in cardiovascular surgery when I was when I was in college and so I was taking this photography class and in we had all these assignments of things that we had to shoot so. I took this series of photos of. Patient and then you know the doctor and the setup, and as the procedure would get into as we go through the procedure of this of the event of the patient being worked on. Taking photos closer and closer and closer and closer and closer, and afterwards he's looking at my work and I really love this work I love your progression and he's like I. He said I love this one, the most. And, it was it was actually a patrol blood kind of bubbling out of an artery and and. So why do you like come on the the most says it's the closest he said we find things. Far More interesting the closer that we get to them if you see this. Table that were sitting out from one hundred yards You know you can appreciate it for being a table but if we're all forced to sit right next to it and maybe even take a magnifying glass to actually look at the texture, the stains, the dividends imperfections. You start to really appreciate getting that much closer to the table and then And as I learned about this concept of of entropy this this this this continued state of disorder and you understand that we are as much as we are living. We are really what we really are as dying. That's really what we're progressing towards same of this table is. progressing towards its own decay, right? So I started to kind of embody these two notions and how that's how I would look at things when I was hunting and so when we started building films. You know we have this process of. What really has happened on the trip, which is an our work is very close to what you see in the film. The only thing that's really different is we might move timelines around to. Collect imagery that makes more sense. Of Film or the end of film and we might. You know we might sensationalize something whereas if I'm gonNA, climb up this rocky slope like this rocky slope on the left might be not as pretty as the rocky slope on the right. So we might go out of our way to go up to one on the right cause injuries just celebrates you know the one if you will the one on the right might look a little more Colorado than the one on the left. So we might do things like that, but we come up with this process of trying to. Film. Every day as though it's our last day. It's only day. We have just today in kind of capture that imagery. And then I have my natural. Connection with the woods just like we've been talking about squirrel hunting or whatever else this You know the closer I get to what I'm doing the longer I stay. Really it's funny because that's what I mean when I. Mean what are we stay a long time? It's just getting closer right that's what it is. You seem more things you're getting more details. And so just in body ING that as we're as we're filming. And then you know afterwards Kyle Nick Light. He's our director in our producer. Hill put together the skeleton of thoughts. This was this is ABC d e F G of the story. Here's some of the images that we have collecting and and what are some of the things that we want to write about and so Will then start to construct some high level images that will go along with thoughts that will go along with the story like, for instance, our latest film wins of Aytac. We started out you land in you can't help. But when you're on the airplane, you're on the seven thirty, seven Alaska Airlines flight coming into. Aytac. You're staring out the windows new can help you see all this fog. It's always it's foggy there hundred ninety days a year or something like that. So you see this fog as a shoe and you start to see army barracks in its decorating and you see they're all run down and. So, before we even the wheels of even touch the tarmac I know that we have to like we are going to exploring these army barracks and looking at. The history of the JAP Japanese Imperial Navy, invading us in aid and add to and. And there's one more but anyway Kisco or something like that but And so you know we take time to film that stuff to talk about it and so. We we take on a sound bytes like the things that I'm interpreting in Hong feeling about this and impact this might have in me as after I leave here while I'm here. So we'll take these stuff with just. Information, we'll go through and basically tell the story and I was telling you guys earlier the first time I've ever wrote a voice over four film I handed it to Kyle and he looked at it and he said you know what the Hell is. This I said well, that's for the film. It's like I've never even ever heard. You talk like this. You don't talk like this isn't not how you look at wildlife I wrote it. And thinking back now, I don't recall what I wrote. I wish I would've saved it but I probably wrote it a little bit more macho a little bit more bad asan. and. He's like your your. Your intrinsically connected with the woods and wildlife. When you're out there that's that's how you should write your saddened when you take animals lives or when you see things that are degrading like that really affects your mind you should write about that. So then we started realizing he knew this. Film graduate he's the one that's been educated on this. So he said you know the more you write this for yourself donny who cares what anyone else who cares if we sell? One of these films like this is our business. We're giving a shot at this, but it's just like you you can't. Although it might be slightly different, but you can't build tents and. Shelters, you can't build them as though. You're like I. Think this one's really going to sell like hotcakes. You have to build a shelter that is going to function for for real hunting real camping real. Ultra lightweight backpacking like you have to build shelters. Because then the people that are doing those things will come and buy those shelters. If you build a shelter like oil, I think I think this color and this design will really sell I don't know how it's GonNa function camping but I think it's really going to sell those really not going to sell so you so we would. Build our films for ourselves and and and understanding that might not buy into them. They might not enjoy them. But. As long as we keep it real with ourselves will never lose our trajectory. Right if we're start chasing everyone else's ideas or I see this guy who's doing films over here if I try to do what he's doing I'm GONNA lose my way like if you know if one guys really amazing archery shot and I'm like, oh I'm GonNa, turn myself into a pro archer might lose my way. Are This guy's a really really super fit guy and I'm gonNa Chase. The fitness Biography of it you know I might lose my way but. So. Just, keeping my way having my intrinsic connection with things that are going on and have that kind of burdening wherewithal of. Remaining close to things and having this idea of entropy that you know this. This idea that we are la- quite literally falling apart while we sit here and in In in discussing and so just coming out with an honest peace and and every film that we make holes every film like which we did this, which we would capture this like this last year when we're on eight acquiesce severe sees in this particular night. I wish we could show you guys that but we're also scared and it was so rough that we literally couldn't. Like the captain of the boat was flying out of his chair ending up on the other side of the boat like multiple times we'd be falling. From, the top of a wave and I could see our cameras literally floating up towards the roof of the boat and we'd smash. Multiple. Times I was we had we have two Two hundred two fifties or three hundred I think there are two fifty s on the back of the poll and one of them failed. So now, like we can barely make up some of these waves like little little baby little baby version of. The perfect storm kind of thing like we're trying to get up these waves and the ways disorganized in the bering sea so like I would've loved to show that. But even if we could film it, even if we didn't have to hold on, it have been like there's this guy there's blackwater there's this guy there's. Orphan. An absolutely Kevin Kevin's in the bathroom. I told those guys I said, Hey, the captain of the boat because I get seasick the cap on the boat Corey Heterogeneous said man you did really well, and finally discovered the cure for seasickness and he said what and I said paralyzing fear. seasickness didn't even enter my mind because we're all GONNA die. Yeah. So so We try to be honest with that and so in. One of the areas that I also don't enjoy. But as part of our process, we put the skeleton in this film together. We you know. As Matt, we have a musician that worked for US named Casey and he's a genius. He is a freaking genius. If he was sitting here right now, he'd WanNa vomit vice saying these things but he's so talented. But he'll score the music and we'll come up with things that we want to say in footage that we have. But then we start getting truncated down into space, right? So okay. So you have to talk about. So here in this part of the film have forty eight seconds. We're GONNA talk about Caribou what they're doing here who put me here? Why why we are here to? Hunt them. So. Okay. So now I have to write something and forty eight seconds where if we could just sit here and talk about it for the next three hours, we could really have a discovery but no, I've gotta write about it and I don't have. Leonardo DiCaprio and. I am not Brad Pitt I don't have genius writers. I'm the writer and so You know we do the best we can, and then and then the only thing that I'll say. That I have is a pretty strong outside influence. Is. I understand that many people are going to be watching these films that aren't hunters and might have questions about hunting, and so I try to write in a manner that it gives them some foundation of why were there doing the things that we're doing and it doesn't look like we're just picking a place in the middle of the ocean that is like wide. You go there and what are you doing there? Why is this there what? The engagements in the kind of interactions with the environment. So But. It's just about storytelling and It's really just a burning that we all have to go and do these things to share them with people that a can't get through themselves or don't understand why it is that they want to get their. I've talked to many vegans and Vegetarians and anti hunters at say you know Kind of against it but I also have this deep year earning of actually joining the of becoming hunter and understand hunting and hunting rabbits or squirrels, and you're that comes from our ancestor. That's that's where they're confused as we come from hunters and gatherers. So they have this yearning of I wanNA pick up a bone, shoot a deer but I don't understand it. I really don't want to kill a deer his killing a deer is really horrible to experience and watch and it's I shouldn't say it's horrible. It's a big event. It's a serious event to take things life. And it should weigh on you heavily. If it doesn't you should maybe have introspective you. You've unpacked a lot. and. there. It's it's an amazing amount. Of topics you've covered from the being very close I think I've mentioned this to you Dennis that the book, the art of motorcycle maintenance. One of the things that always stuck with me was when he was trying to teach class at didn't get Montana or something he said write an essay about the building across the street and no one really could do anything they're drawing blanks in the news like. Write a story about the brick in the corner of that builder, and all of a sudden seemed to unlock their creativity and you also. Touched a lot on how important it is to be. Honest with yourself and present that to the public. At some level, all of us can sniff out fake right something doesn't feel right if people are being true to yourself. So we've talked about this on the airport we have to be true to ourselves first before gets released to the public I mean if I can't make a tent that I think while this is a CRAPPY ASS design but we're going to sell it like hotcakes unfortunately that's. A problem that probably is too prevalent. In this world as a whole is companies individuals doing things you know I noticed that in backpacks I'll say that backpacks I think are primarily made to look good on the store shelf and some of these backpack companies I'm like you guys used to know how to make a fucking good backpack. They like in the nineties you guys made good backpacks maybe great but you made good backpacks but now you make pretty garbage or something that I consider. Pretty. Not, very good stuff man it looks good on the shelf ticks the boxes for the Sales Ram in the store. Right. So. In some of those things you even kind of unpacked. The, weight of killing something be super honest here I mean I hunted grew up hunting as a kid onto by myself everything and then I got out of it for like fifteen years. And then I decided to get an elk hunting and. I was really conflicted on it because I loved watching oak I loved seeing them out in the wild and I didn't know what it was going to feel like when I pulled the trigger the first time on an elk. And what I realized to myself. The first time I pulled the trigger. That was literally like eighteen yards news al.. Ran Down, a mountain intercepted him. was. It struck a chord in me and it felt exactly like something I was supposed to do. You know and I was like. No. I mean I feel bad about doing it for the right purpose and all this and even though, and it's hard to explain to the non hunter that you can have this deep love and admiration for species. But also. Kill Them. You know they don't see that as something that computes like how can you shoot this thing you profess to absolutely love like you can sit amongst i. told you last night about my friend that we sat amongst listening to him talk he was a Vegan. He had no clue of all that you know and as nighttime and you could hear the MMU and just the heard chatter and stuff and he was like, wow, that's that's crazy. You know but how you can sit there and Be So. Appreciative of that moment and the species and when you learn about the species and how they do things to. Propagate. And keep themselves solid how Akao we'll take another cows. And how there's usually some sort of century that kind of helps protect us open you see the cows hurt up around their bull if they feel their bullets threatened, you know I mean there's a lot of cool stuff there but. You know. People have a hard time. We'll. Why are you? Why are you taking a gun with with with a lethal projectile or or a bow with this really sharp pointy thing at the end that you think is going to really damage them and shooting at him, but it's it's a part of you or predators. The guns in the bows are our? That's our extension. We have thumbs and brain. So we've been able to have these. We can't run fifty miles an hour. We don't have things. We don't have claws. We don't have further that keeps us warm in the snow. So we are still predator. But we are a Predator you know where a chimpanzee that is built tools. You know that's what we've done, and then if we if we could go as fast as a chimp whereas strong as a champion wicked catch something whack head against a tree need it we would. But. We have we we just have advanced tools. Come out nine that's a stroke. Ultra. The lion isn't like man. I got a forty pound pack on my back. He just walks out there and he gets it. Out. And with that? Yeah. Yeah. Awesome. Guys I think that's great. We could. We could do this again sometime for sure. Absolutely, and thanks for jumping down here real quick. Thanks donning for being here and Stuff and. Thanks for listening guys in. Back there.

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117 - 70th Anniversary GP & Spanish GP Prerace 2020

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117 - 70th Anniversary GP & Spanish GP Prerace 2020

"Again, NEON LAS to be, US, and welcome to shift up one a podcast about speed race cars that by the way is Spanish for to not reach out to somebody or to the ankles. What's The literal translation. Anyway it's an idiomatic expression for not being able to keep up with somebody. Something most of the Formula One grid can identify with, but not all which we will get to I'm drew scanlon joining. Me Is Daniel Dwyer. How are you, Danny? I'm doing well, I learned that this week it's not just about. the how fast your legs are but also the shoes you wear and you don't have a pair of shoes this. Of just get too hot and fall apart halfway around the running track. That's important. Very true. Also joining US Rob Acne, how are you rub? Surprised how long it took me to realize that Danny wasn't talking about actual running shoes. I it was veiled. So well as a as a, you could barely see the metaphor that was there was incredible. Really. Youtube are incredible for holding down the fort last week I really appreciate it. started a new GIG. If you ask rob, how is how was how he survived the hurricane, but I can see. Talked about poster without me the one episode where I'm out, you guys talk about twister one of my favorite movies. But yeah. I was worried how he was doing about it but as you can see from his web, calm, he's currently broadcasting from the site of an open building while there's just like destroy. Palm trees stuck in windows of skyscrapers behind him. So clearly, it was pretty bad. Yeah. That's I'm I'm pretty much in my bunker at this point riding out the rest of the storm season. Her. Oh it was. It was briefing. Fun Okay. Cool. Sorry. See what's happened now is I hosted last week's I was stepping over Jerus- toes because I can't I have to be back back in my place here again. Sorry go ahead. It's all good. If, you are new to the podcast. Welcome. If you are new to formula and itself, we recommend listening to our preseason primer. Episode that assumes no prior knowledge. And gives the low load on how the sport works and everybody is this year's primer episode if you would like to listen to, that is a number of ninety-six. Also, this show is supported entirely by our audience over at Patriotair Dot com slash shift at one where every month we released bonus podcasts and videos exclusively for patrons, covering recent documentaries and films on video games primers for other racing series. In a lot of weird things if you'd like to support the show and get access to all that fun stuff head or to Patriots dot com slash shift f one or click the link in the show notes I really enjoy I've been thinking about Grand Prix a lot. Recently I I really enjoyed our chat with that. Yeah, it was almost as long as the movie itself, which is why we have made sure that you have ample time to both watch the movie and listen to us. You can check that out. As long sorry along with all of the many. Patriot, exclusive podcast film reviews, Primers, all that sort of stuff and a bunch of videos as well. Over a patriot, we will have a new patron exclusive. Film Review Probably Film Review Am in a couple of weeks. So we'll talking about what that is on next week's episode but these races are coming thick and fast. They are. Let's just get right into it. We. We've had a double double before we had to Austria Grand Prix Specter back. But this time it's different because there are different tires which I think is cool. They change the tires to this one. So I think that's a cool thing because you get kind of a different. Race I imagine. People were a little scared going into this 'cause everyone's tires exploded in the last. So for stone race. But this probably force them to do to teashops stops instead of trying to stretch it to one. This is like the inverse of what happened last week in the spy great job taking off the most boring race. At recent memory. But their strategy races right. We get these a lot in formula. One. Yeah. They're racist but there's like two types right as the one that has the possibility space that like anything could happen and then nothing happens which was last week and then this one where everything happens. Last. Week this is like the The last week was like the Boring Universe version of this week's race and where we did see a lot of that. which is really cool I. You know I think especially as a first time watch if you like it was just way more like exciting, it's always weird looking back on these races knowing what happens but at the time, it just seemed crazy and there were certain inflection points that happened the really changed while was going on in this one. Let's run down the grid here for the start of the seventieth anniversary Grand Prix vowed to Roberta's. Position. Lewis Hamilton second third place Nico Hulk number. That is right he is. Again, Sergio. Perez tested positive once more for COVID. And spoilers. Car starts this time. Racing Point says, they are quote ninety, nine percent sure that Peres will be back in the car. For this weekend upcoming race Shane. Mentioning About for the folks who don't remember the Nickel Holcombe Brook is never got the podium in one. He holds the record for most races without a podium. He's fifty clear of the second person who particular a table. Which I think might have been agent sue Taylor something he has I. Think. This is something in the range of one hundred and seventy-five race starts without a podium which means that last week's race didn't actually count towards that because he didn't even start. Yeah. So basically, just watching Berg this entire race. Which is interesting. Fourth Place on the grid Max verstappen he's the only one of the top ten to set his qualifying two times on hard tyres. So He Is the only one again in the top ten starting on hard tyres Daniel. Ricardo. In his renos starting fifth-place. He said his car was feeling good all weekend and that was enough to get up to fifth lance stroll in the other. Tracing point in sixth place peer Ghastly in the Alpha Tower starting seventh Charlotte cleared the First Ferrari on this grid eighth-place. For our hope just hoping to stay. In the points. For this race ninth-place albums still having a hard time hooking up his red bull and Leno Norris starting tenth just outside the points Sebastian federal and the other Ferrari. He even tried the terrible soft tire to get into q three but. No dice there. Even Martin brundle baffled by Sebastian battles pace here. Federal baffled as well by the the post race interviews on this when we were very interesting. What got Saddam sure. Yeah, I think it was brundle actually who said Sebastian did not forget how to drive. Like what what is going on here. Carl signs. Twelfth Place Grow John In thirteenth he and Russell both made it into q two. Fourteenth Places Starts Esteban on. A three place penalty for blocking Russell qualifying. Which enduring brundle brought up something that I thought it was a pretty good point. Why do they apply the penalty after? Qualifying one give the penalty to Okon now, when they noticed the infraction because what? Did to impede Russell might prevent Russell from getting into the next phase of qualifying. It didn't end up happening that way. Russell, guide into cute you anyway. But it's it's it's an infraction in that session, but you're penalizing them. For the. For the race. The next one started like. Had the next well, they can't postpone the. Qualifying session right so did I. Like had that had the next qualifying? Cutie or q one Star or three stars, but it's they'd actually done it. Maybe the thing I would say is it is always felt to me like, formula, one rules enforcement has never been about making it right for the person who was disadvantaged by driving doing something their approach has always been to just like look at solely at the driver who committed the infraction and say across. The board this is what we do in this case, and whether that means you screwed up somebody else's run or like ruined their race on. Race Day it doesn't matter five second time penalty five place penalty it like the outcome for another driver doesn't really factor into it and you know that might be smart because the minute you start trying to adjudicate harm in F one. And just the grievance politics that surround every team and the relationship with the stewards I can see where this might be an imperfect approach but. I can sort of see why they might have arrived at this at this sort of approach. Yeah. I just finished out the top or the bottom five of the great here George Wrestle Starts Fifteenth. Daniel. Caveat starts sixteenth he set a fast enough time to get into q two but it was deleted for a track limits violation he and a lot of folks actually we're having A. Some problems with wind during qualifying was higher I. Think this week than last week seventeen place. Eighteenth Nicholas Latifi, and then nineteenth and twentieth Antonio Jovanotti Kimmy writing in the to Alfa, Romeo's which. Is, funny because I think, as the commentators pointed out the the very first race, the the this is the seventieth anniversary of the first Formula One race. I think the top four cars were. Alfa Romeo's. Over Yeah. But they. Yes. We'll start from the back of the grid. Do you WanNa take us through the start? Danny? Sure. light said away they go all eyes on the two Mercedes as we always tend to when their first and second to see about a star historically we've. Often, seen Louis have a better stars Abbott Bow Botas has been pretty rock-solid for long enough that I feel bad enough even mentioning that he was once again solid and into the first couple of corners in I what Hamilton behind him there was some overtaking behind over stop and got ahead of Nico Holcomb Berg almost immediately on the straight. So he was ahead of him by the they turned into that first hander and Ricardo also. Goth poss- land, stroll I, think split them the big action we saw in that early Parsh- wasn't any of the the the front runners. It was actually our our good friends about investment phantom south, and probably a bit more traffic than he's used to He had album on the inside of him I think it was and he had his team as was a couple of head of him. He was sort of the behind maybe. But as he turned in on that I turn he actually thought he got hit by somebody but it was just the car got too much. Of the inside Carb. tried. To got an overseer tried to correct dish spun the other way kind of Romain, Grosjean, across the the track and almost actually hit all Khan who was coming off the inside of. So in many respects may be lucky to get away that it was just a spin, but basically stuck them at the bucket of pack for first couple of laps of this race. Yeah not I mean. Understatement but not the start he wanted of course. Something we have seen him doing like we've we've talked about it a bunch of times done off the car off. It's sad. But for the past few years, just he spends, we had was a Bahrain. We had that one another one like this where no one no one near him I think Australia may be he had a little go just getting little on a spin and F one is like nightmarish like yeah, it's it's like a drive through penalty. Like if if lots the tires is even worse but like even not situation where he got away with it kind of it just totally takes the wind out of his race. Yeah. Someone who's wind I think we can safely say that the at his back for Mattress Tappan flying up toward the Mercedes in an early charge those hard tires. Him. He gets so close by lap twelve that he told by his engineer to back off which she declines. Doesn't want to drive. Grandma. Yeah I mean you know I think it's a it's a were chatting we are done on he's complaining about grandmother so perhaps Even even the balance out on the the jokes here but. A shadow at the Hottest Smith seen a strategy engineer over red ball because it was it was her idea to put on hearts. At the start of this race, which completely changed the complexion of battle with the Mercedes and was a massive factor in them. Doing while threat this rice just from this. We never saw any pullout were so used to seeing the Mercedes stretch dot Gov at and sometimes it's longer than usual. Sometimes, it's these big GOP sometimes they manage it at like five seconds just never happened this time round of so interesting just. Three laps in when the Mercedes got their first warning that. Tires were already critical. It was he has really early I was like how? Like that's like it was one of those moments where you just know like Oh this is a rap. Because they they gave the Mercedes, the warning It felt like in the first few laps. Already, critical. And I was I was still thinking, oh, it's just the quality tires. The next set of fine. Yeah they were looking ragged by at this point like lap twelve and indeed they do pit one after the other on lap fourteen and fifteen botas i. And they show a picture in picture of botas pitting which I think was really cool. They do that a lot in moto GPA I'm surprised that it's taken this long to do it but. More of that please but they come out a C.. Rejoins in six and then Hamilton slots in behind him. Then we kind of get a look back in the in the field Alex album making moves on that fifteen. He overtakes Reichen on the outside of woods that law is sto cops. So that stands before. Scary, but but a good move. Not. The first one he's going to do today either. Albion just you know kind of a thick of a lot of is obviously after a couple of races and. Couple of mishaps, Ike, Hamilton touched. We had an Australia which wasn't his fault, but he's just been under performing equality. So He kinda needs in these racist to be gathering up people and he did a great job in his own. Yeah left nineteen. He gets up to PR GHASTLY WHO's in thirteenth in some solid defense by Pierre Gasoline. But. I think he passes him after a few laps there and gasoline was also having trouble with his tires. So while, Mercedes, pitted on fourteen and fifteen verstappen goes until lap twenty, seven on his hard tires. And by that point, Mercedes is also on the hard tyres because they've pitted. But verstappen was still going faster than them and managed to pull out over twenty seconds ahead of Hamilton. And so that when he pitted. He came out in second behind. Botas Yeah So. I think yeah and just behind him and he got by in like a couple of corners into first place on cold tyres Luffield or something. It was crazy I think that was the moment that was the like when we crossed the Rubicon this race was left twenty two when they came over. The radio to bow ties and said that he's already in trouble and you're like Oh my God they just put those on there like ten. And we should probably talk a little bit about what exactly was going on because this wasn't just a case of some sort of e even problem how they were having trouble with the rears for sure. But the also there was this issue at the front right, which is tire, which especially in Silverton I talked about last week. An incredible amount of this trump has taken out full wall up I. Think it's the fastest think it's the most percentage of attracted has done at full throttle and high speed. and. Just the amount of stress puts on our front rice. It had basically made like a trench in the in the Mercedes front rice which it took them a lot i. think it took Botas Pitch and then seeing that there still enough threat that it was cutting in this like trench in the tire, but you could still may be safely drive them. You know what I mean like the trench was it was almost reminded me of like, UFC fighter when they get punched and they have to like vaseline Khadim between Ryan's and the minute it gets hit again and opens the tire you could see on the camera was like opening as they had these hard. Left turns returns. It was absolutely incredible. I've never had more suspenseful shots of tires than I. Did watching the tire wear on the Mercedes were just like, okay. Some of it was the lighting changes as they go round, which would highlight the weird furrows but there were points where you'd be looking at a particularly the the left rear of the Merck's. where I swear to God, the tire had topography wear. It was like two distinct where regions on biocides stripe it was. It was stunning how different the switch in compounds and the rising temperatures made the race and made the Mercedes relationship to its tires. See I. Had A. we talk about tires right in the leg we get more questions about tires. I'd say probably anything over the course of this podcast, there's never been a race where you could remember us have that graphic where they had like the reg. He's on the tire here and there this was I've never had a race where you could just see it was like when you're watching a boxing match again, you come in five Ranzan in and you kind of know who's winning right Looks a bit more fucked up than the other. Lead that's what is looked like every time they looks at A. Cockpit camera from the top of you could tell however was doing it was really remarkable. Hamilton was baffled. Did you hear his radio message? He was like? regarding verstappen, he must have low pressures in his tires. Which of course is illegal and like you know that no one's doing nash no one's GonNa make that mistake. Like check that pressure is on the grid it's. Maybe he was just. Confused How how could read will be? This much better than us. Speaking of rising temperatures, Sebastian federal angry with his pit wall after he gets pitted and comes back out in traffic. He says, I will hang in there but you know that you've messed up. UNHINGED. Surveys. I'm not angry I'm disappointed. Referring to getting into traffic but like they didn't know that I guess signs at how poor pitstop. Glasses. Yeah. Just Seb's whole like. His hectoring schoolmaster, a persona that he adopts. is also like I think. It's more tolerable for an anything's more tolerable for winning driver, right. But when like you make this many mistakes and your performance is this far off your team mates and had like an has been in arguably for years Adopting that tone is just it's sad man it's sad like Saab just stop talking don't. Like. Ferrari strategies not while you're back there right like Ferrari didn't like like send you into the abyss in this race be Kinda can't help himself and it's I. Don't know. It's it is it was one of many dismaying moments from from Sav where I'm like I am so ready to bring the curtain down on this on this production of of his stage of the career. Yeah. He's got senior Itis for sure. Rahm Nico Berg. Gave it a clean. He put it on laps sixteen and thirty one, and after that second pitstop, he rejoins in sixth behind the Clare. WHO has made it up to fifth place? Same Lap Ricardo. Defending from signs in intent place just loses it spins off. He actually after the race. Spin. That's grace. Mark. Webber Talk Yes. Yes. Grow. John's relieved. For the raped. So after He's says regarding the Spin I could see Carlos and scientists to the outside of around the corner, and you obviously try to squeeze a little bit but not have contact. Then as soon as I opened the wheel and got on the throttle, it just went around I. Think when you are in such close vicinity to another car on that side angle, you lose a chunk of down for us. It is normally coming in from that side I guess keeping the car down. So I had a very quick loss of downforce. And it can catch you out. At least that's a better answer than veteran who didn't seem to know what happens. Surprised Yeah. Yeah. He just wants to be a non McLaren foster. You just wanted to jump over into Carla's car. some really wants to. As. Well. banter from Ricardo and Norris future teammates it's going to be good. Re tweeted from the Out. So now now the question is Hamilton's in the lead. He has done one less pitstop than botas can he make the tires last? They don't look good but Hamilton I mean he finished the race on three wheels last week. So he might has been known to you know make miracles happen before. Last thirty, two for STAP and Botas both pit pitted for the hard tyres and rejoined ahead of Leclair. So Hamilton assumed lead. Ten laps later though Hamilton turns out cannot make tires last he pits going from hard to hard and rejoins. in fourth place behind Leclair again. The tires look good. Hamilton. Gets by him three laps after that on his new tires into third place. But Clare Somehow. Getting a done. Could we have an? Update at this stage is he? Yes. So he was in fifth place and I'm like, all right he like going good hero. The universe here. Yeah. The Mercedes touching unroll podium but their tires explode. Here we go. And then they call him into the pits on lap forty five and initially the commentators were Kinda like are they trying to cover somebody here album? Maybe who is Within up to seventh and then so wouldn't hold number comes out he rejoined seventh behind Albion. But apparently, after the race, we learned that he had severe vibrations I think due to blistering on his tires and said that he could not have finished the race. which is he said it was really weird because it was the same set I think he was on hard on both the for I two. Oh. No, he wasn't for the first one I. Forget he said that his second set of hearts just didn't work the same as the first one. So maybe he was talking about after the pitch? But yeah, unfortunate. Put Him behind his team as well. Who was must have been a different strategy at that stage and and he never seemed to get any more pace at a car just kind of. Was Ray was in for the rest of the race Bush great job. You know it's a shame you didn't do better than. Stroll though in the race because he clearly had driven a really good race. You know. I. Guess Maybe took a to ours props. That's right. Yeah. Magnusson also retired apparently for safety reasons Steiner. Told autosport quote Kevin just couldn't keep his tires together. He kept on wearing them out and it was getting some stage just too dangerous to keep on changing tires just blisters vibrations and we had to retire him for safety reasons I. I'm sorry if I'm asking you a ridiculous question for the middle of this podcast, but do you have the lock chart in front of you for where people were? So, there was one stage halfway through the race where John dropped five point, five places to second last and nobody mentioned it. I saw it happen on the. On the China I, don't think it was a pitch. He didn't have a pitch and it but I saw him fall down. Down from like. I want to say fifth fourteenth or fifteenth to laugh. Yeah and what is that? That's LAPA. Seventeen or so let's look at his tyre. Strategy. On looking at race fans by the way, who does a great collection of all this data? Thanks because I remember by the end, the houses were based pitted on lap seventeen. So it was then was a page was yeah. May have been a pet I sorry. Okay. So it must have been the the graphic didn't show past like it usually does Bush I was wondering why he was maybe he maybe I looked just as he was leaving the pass and then he got overtaken into the farmer section or whatever. But she's those those Haas's you gotta feel for Kevin Integrate start like. Channels some on boards of of his started. It was great. But again, yeah same. As last year, they cannot hang in the racist. I don't. The really want to know about league I also want to know more about tires in F one 'cause I'm hard pressed to name an era where feels like tire wear has affected team? So differently like Haas's obviously been the most dramatic of the teams to be struggling with recurring tire issues, but we just had a race where effectively a change in compounds and pressures like completely like reshuffled the the field it just seems like the rap on the per the these Pirelli's in the way Parrella has approached their their brief with F one. Seems to have made for really fussy. Tires. that. If you don't stay on top of you do not have a handle on them. Then everything is going to go wrong and it won't always show up in quality which has been the frustrate like the pace will look good. But the extended race stints just won't, and that's where it'll kill you and I'm not sure. That that's been a feature of other periods in F one I remember the Pirelli when they joined the sport as the new sole sole supplier. They're really defensive because people didn't like their tires in the way they wore and parolees response was hey, we could like this is not difficult technology. We could just make like hardest as hell racing slicks and you know then tire stretch you'll be done of that's not what we were asked to do. It does feel now like. We have. Once again and up a place where The tires are really swinging, and if you're not one of the top teams, it seems to fall really uneven lay for for the burden that imposes I'm really curious to see if that also evolves as we look to the new. Era Yon Haas had trouble with with this issue last year and the year before with the the whole quality being fired race not being great. It just shows like when when it affects everyone like it did this week, it affects them doubly like they just totally awash I will say though Magnussen's race was also pretty host because he picked up the penalty. right now rejoined unsafely and almost ran into Nicholas Latifi. It was bad like I e caught that real time. It was very much one of those like he just floored it and like whip that car back onto the track and like nearly banged wheels a TV. To get out it away. Yeah. It was bad luck and it did sort of again made me think about like last week when he kinda did something similar. and. It just it. It did feel like one of those cases where here wasn't ambiguous at all right. He just came charging back onto the racing line but at the same time also like, yeah, that's Kinda how this dude roles is. He's like lost it gonNA swing back onto the track and you know reclaim the line I don't know. Seeing that happen again I was kind of like did Alvin get done dirty last week just a little bit. Haase is a bad American cop drama where everyone is a loose cannon. You're right. The is loose cannon. The two detectives don't get along also loose cannons. Maybe. The WHO owns the police station as well. I guess the So yeah. A mattress tap out in front crushing. It wins the race by eleven point three to six seconds but the question becomes how will the mercedeses finish? Hamilton's on those newer tires and it's closing Botas. And then they both get a radio message saying you're free to race just give each other space. And a few laps to one or two laps from the Finish Hamilton does get by BOTAS with D. R. S. into second place. And that's how they finish Max tap and Lewis Hamilton and battered Botas alyx. Album getting it done in the back of the field lap fifty again as it's the racist winding down, he gets by stroll for fifth place, having started nine. And, it is third overtake right there. Yeah. It's it's my opinion. You want to fix. Alex. Alvin. Not that he needs fixing to the degree that he does. Sign him. Sign him you cowards. I think that would get. He only got a contract for this year. Correct. He's not confirmed yet for next year. Yes after the race Botas not happy. I think he he said at at the post race interview to was appalled Russia. As a team we were sleeping. Strong words from as strong as they get i. think from Voucher Botas. And then I don't know if you've got this but on the. Podium. After the Champagne was sprayed Hamilton just. Instinctively, grabbed the first place trophy and walked away. No. Yes. See. If I can find a link to that in the show notes, it's pretty funny. He's like out already have one of these at home. From last week. That muscle we're. Just. What a strange week I'm sure. It was a race that was one on Saturday. We just didn't know it until. Sunday. Let's run down the finishing positions here. Master champion wins the race followed by Lewis, Hamilton and second and Voucher Botas in Third Charlotte Clare holds on for fourth place having started. What was it ninth? Or Eighth. It was eight and then behind him was album who finished right behind him in fifth place they've got lance stroll and then Nico Berg in seventh having made that pitstop. Esteban Okon Finish is an eighth followed by Land Norris and Daniel Caveat rounding out the points paying positions behind them peer, Ghastly Sebastian Federal Carlos Sainz, Daniel Ricardo Kimmy Reich in fifteenth. Then we have Roman grow John Antonio Giovanni. George Russell Nicholas. Latifi and not classified was Kevin Magnuson did retire also was issued two penalty points on his license for that unsafe rejoin next to Latifi And that's the seventieth anniversary. Grand, Prix. The only groppy to ever not be named after place. Is that right? Yup? I and maybe only they couldn't call it the British. Grand. Prix or I guess they wanted to. Signify the seventieth year. Sure. Second. Just News Shall We? Do it. As you may, if you're watching the race, you may have seen that. The racing point. Car Copying. Debacle I guess I duNno story. The IT goes deeper. FANDANGO. Yes. So I guess just a reset as as we've discussed before here, racing points twenty twenty car is almost exactly the same as the two thousand nineteen Mercedes? I would argue that the cribbing of design ideas goes on all the time in formula. One but I think it takes people back to see a car copied whole hog. And, of course, F one teams will take every opportunity to. Protest bill a galaxy of rival teams cars Reynaud lodged multiple protests against racing point, and after an investigation racing point has been fined four, hundred, thousand euros and. Fifteen points in the constructors championship, the driver's points will remain. Unchanged however, interestingly, they will be allowed to continue using the break ducks. So. Just to explain this. As we know from the way Haas operates it is within the rules to buy certain parts from other teams like engines, gearboxes suspension. but there is another list of parts. that the rules say you must make yourself which are known as. Listed parts. Other listed parts according to the F. One website are the cars, roll structures, front impact structures, survival cell, and most importantly bodywork, which includes aerodynamic elements and since the. Brake Ducts. Duct Air they have been classified as listed parts. Now, there's nothing in the rules saying, you can't take a bunch of pictures of a part of a riles car and then make it make your part look like it. What you can't do is take blueprints shared by another team and use those. Reynaud chose to focus in their protests on racing points, brake ducts, because most of the design of the brake duct can't be seen from external pictures meaning that if the interior of racing points, brake ducts looked like those of Mercedes then something fishy you was going on. It turns out the rear, the rear brake duct specifically in the opinion of the FAA are too similar. There is a wrinkle to this though. Breaks only became listed parts in twenty twenty. So. In two thousand, nineteen when racing point was developing their twenty twenty car. It was legal for them to use Mercedes brake duct blueprints. They did know that this change was going to be taking place and it sounds like they modified their front brake ducts enough. But the thing that you can't just forget the knowledge that you've learned. So the I took this gray area into consideration when handing racing point their penalty, which is why it's a fine and some points, not a huge fine and all of your points. That penalty though is not sitting well with everyone. Racing Point is, of course, appealing this ruling to clear their name but so are Reynaud Ferrari and it looks like Williams. Because, they want an even harsher penalty for racing point, Rice and of course, under guise of like, we just want clarification on the rules here. So to quote, Calvin and Hobbes a good compromise leaves everybody angry. And this is this is at least how I understand this. There is of course, a lot more nuance to this. A lot of. Technical documents to read through. So if you are interested in hearing more about it I, I recommend you check out chambers video on the subject. which I will link in the show notes. Do you know the construction standings as they are now does that include the fifteen point? On, Fox website. I. Believe. So yes in fact, they would have been A. Third. Is that right? I think. So yeah, the forty-one points, the moment and Ferrari or fifty five and Thir- sixty yeah. Yeah Yeah. Yeah. That's right and as we know a lot of money yeah. The amount of money you bring in the season changes a lot based on where you finish in the constructors down a short season. I also do kind of wonder if this started being a a way to try to get it Mercedes. because some of this is coming down to the legality of supplying the CAD designs. For the Brake Ducts Christian Horner has at least intimated that, hey, racing point did by using these cad files was wrong Surely, it was perhaps wrong to be supplying them in the first place warmer heading into a season where that kind of collaboration. What was specifically Like disbarred And then you have on top of that the kind of weirdly. chummy relationship between total wolf and Lawrence Stroll right so. To degree. Now this there's it kind of feels like there's two fronts to this thing. One is the teams behind racing point desperately just one torpedo at season. because. If if they just plummet down the order because they're breaks effectively de queued, then everybody else stands to make a lot of money and doesn't help staff. Now are basically said there is no plan B. Is kind of a what are you going to do? Stab me. Genuinely almost seems like their strategy from the first has been. Do you really personal. I they feel they did get clarification. They did their due diligence upfront that they shouldn't be in the situation and to. That the FIFA would not torpedo a team that has already been limping for a few seasons right that like just politically this is not a time to start like blasting midfield teams who were starting to achieve some success It. Appears that that was persuasive in some ways to the stewards right 'cause the. The penalty they have right now the fine isn't particularly steep by F., one standards and the and the points penalty is is pretty mild. I get why some of the teams around them are furious at that. But I do think for those of us who just want some of these midfield teams to to find a way to be competitive and make some advantages it seems fine. The teams behind them are not okay with that. They want this car to effectively be utterly host for the constructors standings for the whole season but I think the other element of this is, is there a way we can get a Mercedes and all of this? Is there a way that we can get some sanctions against that program As we again like as we had an new era because. They're not popular. They're not popular team right now and this this was a weird situation where Mercedes seemed very happy to say you know go with God racing point, Bell means copy our car and. You Wolf's position has been it wasn't a problem when hoste that when they came into the store and basically cloned a Ferrari. So Yeah it the the brief period of covert like comedy that we saw where everyone was like. Let's all come together for the best the sport that appears to be out the window at this point everyone's like maybe there's way we can sort of got shot the racing point team and Extra measures. You know there's a chance we can get toto wolff thrown out of the sport. Let's it's a long shop. Hey, just run up the flagpole. Ruthless. That's why that's why we watch speaking of cities. They have signed a driver for next year. Toss. Oh probably thinking. Has signed a one year extension. So he will be racing for Mercedes in two, thousand, twenty one. just like to point out George Russell is contracted at Williams through twenty twenty one. Who knows what will happen in twenty? Twenty two I think I think he's got. It done deal. That's pretty much what's going to happen. Let's run down the driver standings. Hamilton is in I in the triple digits one hundred and seven points Max or stabbing in second with seventy seven. Valerie Botas has seventy-three Charlotte Clare and fourth with forty five land. Norris has thirty eight Alex album with thirty six. Land Stroll in Seventh Place With Twenty eight Sergio Perez despite not being in the car for two races still in place with twenty two points January Ricardo in ninth with twenty and Esteban Conran's rounds out the top ten with sixteen signs has fifteen ghastly with twelve semester federal with ten and Niko. Tinbergen fourteenth place with six points, Antonio Juvenile Z., and Daniel Caveat. Tied in fifteenth, place with two points, Kevin Magnusson in seventeenth with a one, and then we have Reichen Latifi, Russell and Grosjean with zero points. In the constructors standings Mercedes on top of the hundred and eighty points red bulls in second with one hundred, Thirteen Ferrari in third. For now, with fifty five points, McLaren with fifty three in fourth place racing point. Is In fifth place with forty one points. Reynaud has thirty six and sixth seventh places Alpha towery with fourteen points eighth places Alfa Romeo with two gene awesome team have one point in Williams. Currently bringing up the goose egg they they're they're going to do it. They're going to get points, I can feel it. Off Atari split is that must be worrying. For Caveat, he's only got two points. Twelve is from gaselee. Yeah great spot for him to be in. All right. That's it for news and the driver standings do we want to take it to the next race Danny? Let's do it. I. Know We just have a double header on. Yes. Here we are off to sunny the Sunny Iberian peninsula for the Spanish Grand Prix at the circuit the CELONA Catalunia. A favorite of Medi drivers favored many teams. They know quite as well because it's where they do a decent amount of their preseason testing although that must be quite a long time ago. Now, it's usually the fifth round in the. Calendar. So it's usually one at they come to again, pretty quick after testing but obviously, that's not necessarily the case least in terms of the Crow flies via o'clock and sixteen corners. In this one, a lot of variety, which is why they do all their testing here high and low speed of a one thing to keep in mind a quite sure what the plan is with tires. But this has always been a historically abrasive track has high tyre wear. On a good day on a cold day just because of the makeup of the surface there. But we're also going to be visiting at central Spain north, central Spain in the middle of August so it gets hot there. Most of the British isles used to go there on holidays ran this time of the year after that exact reason in fact, Portugal, are we a race coming up in the? which is another one of those spots. So I don't know what I'm not a suit ceremony comes to tires, but this is if you're looking for a place that's going to rip tires apart costs alone. The Height of summer is pretty much what you wanna go for and. Three sets. I'm not surprised. Yeah. So obviously, that's that's probably what they need to do. It's not the fastest circuit in the world. Average speed is about one hundred and ninety five kilometers an hour, which is on the slower end of the spectrum. But in saying that sixty percent of it's done on full throttle. It's it's it's interesting. A lot of the turns the high speed turns or kind of these uphill sections and it's not the best place for overtaking necessarily at has to D. R. S. owns one. The main one is that the end of the star finished straighten and it's kind of one on the inside of the track at halfway through between sectors two and three. which you can also they both have pretty high you know. High A. Low speed corners guess high angled corners at the ended MC content to just kind of outbreak people basically am especially on the the second year I strike and but you'll see a lot of people. Overtaking basically at the end of the straight into turn one it's a difficult track for a lot of drivers. It's tough on them. Generally, it's going to be even harder because of the heat this time around but it's always one that they've had some of the highest levels of lateral forces especially for sector and lot of uphill foss turns turn threes difficult. It's also difficult on the tires as well, and then you have a bunch of fun corners. My one of my favorites is turn at nine, which is a pale into the second year Australia You can kind of take out as fast as you want because it's uphill. Into the little right-hander and end. The last section is kind of where they have a bit of a cognitive. Or a I guess a physical breather because so much of the track is quite difficult up and down. It's kind of like a roller coaster. The arena section that they sort of built here in God's Alania and to take some of the edge as turns at is not that difficult but in terms of their attention, it's super hard because there's like hardly any downforce in here the way the the turns are angled and the fact that they go downhill into a lot of this stuff makes finding grip but difficult and also the curbs on these corners especially, the second to last and third last coordinate sorta she came before the pit entry their nightmarishly high. So in drivers go over those, they hate. Them they buying down bottom at the car and so sector three is It's always been one that the driver's especially in quality will will take a bit of the carve but apparently, it sucks am and that's that's loan. It's a circuit they know already well, it's difficult when they usually do in the springtime I think it's going to be even more difficult. I wouldn't be surprised if we see sort of Singapore, levels of people complaining about keys and getting water, not sorta stuff I know Max was joking about his engineer having water and sanitizing hands during the race. He may be taking a couple of more extra sips at a bottle as time ran. Yeah it's GonNa. Be Warm I. Don't know that be. Motor GP warm. But. Qualifying Day looks to be about eighty six degrees Fahrenheit or thirty nice round number in Celsius. With zero percent precipitation. And looks like some relatively high winds here eight to eleven miles an hour thirteen to eighteen kilometers an hour. And A little bit cloudy on race day but temperatures only slightly less on on race day wind about the same and precipitation a whopping nine percent chance high humidity to. About sixty percent for each. Of the two race days. Let's go to fantasy standings here. Yeah go for it. Go ahead any. Sorry. I was GONNA ask what? Portugal because I was just thinking that it's funny that they're going to be on the. Eastern coast of the peninsula for this and then on the exact opposite. Almost for the For the other one when because it the next one's Ma is we're going back to Italy after this right. On it's Belgium. Spas after this. Okay then Italy. Then the Tuscan grow and then we're not back until. The Portuguese. Crown preseason October twenty fifth tickets quite a long while away. So I guess I take back what I said earlier we will maybe not be as hot then. Oh, they've named the one in the nurburgring the full Grand Prix. Did you know that? No? I didn't know that other. alright. Fantasy league standings I have plummeted to my highest team is. In one, thousand, one, hundred, and ninety. Fifth Place. Oh. And interestingly they swapped out Nego Hogan Burke for Sergio. Pairs interesting. Top Five teams here in the official shift, one fantasy league would you can join by clicking the link in the show notes Number Five Frederick team two. From Canada, two seconds Ted in fourth spot. Jacked up racing is number three. Two seconds by the way from America jacket racing from the UK SAM team to drops to second place also from the UK. And then vaulting to number one from Finland, it protects my head. Wow. A new challenger has entered. Indeed. Yeah. So that's fantasy. Should we take it to emails Danny. Sure got a couple of good ones here shift f-foreign podcast gmail.com or if one dot cool slash emails, I'll take this first one from James James Says James here, loving the podcast. It's been great to break up the time between races although let's be honest. There's not that much time between races. That's me editor realizing there, and I have a question about deleted laptops Sebastian battle exceeded chocolates on. Sunday while recovering from his little adventure on lap one I remember hearing the commentators talking about race control the leasing two of his lap times because of this, my question is, how would this affect the race? I can understand the effects of the did lap qualify qualifying time during a as demonstrator caveat on the day before but I don't understand the ramifications of a deleted race lap time and I hope that question make sense. Thank you for taking the time to the garage. Yeah. So I, wanted to a little bit of a complication in this because the deleted lap time during a race is kind of like it's just kind of a law that sorta like hangs out there. It doesn't. It doesn't really do all that much on its own, but it's sort of it's part of a larger ethos and also. Can have repercussions if it keeps happening so. The whole deleted laptop thing is obviously reading important for something like qualification because you don't want people if you've exceeded the limits of the track, effectively, your lap is deemed Nolan void and it's the time is taken out of the history books that were am this will be importance in practice. For instance, if you somehow managed to break the lap record, say that would be valid in practice as much as it will be in a qualifying race situation, and so obviously, that's why they still do it and things like practice and another thing that happens you may remember last year is that they started to delete. Subsequent lapse after people had broke corners to because folks were breaking the limits on the power IKA while entering the start finish straight at Monza, and that was helping them get a better stars squeeze when they crossed the line. Yeah. So it's it's not just about that one lapper that one turn it's basically all in service of ensuring the purity of anyone lap and ensuring the I guess statistical impurity purity about as well. So during a race, what does it mean to delete her lap? What? Effectively most of the time it means practically nothing just means that once again, you can't break the record if you. Did, a skip the chicane at the first turn of Monza and and something that you were five seconds faster than everyone else. Obviously wouldn't make much sense. So they're all deleted the the the only way in which it actually sort of causes anything during a race is that. It's kind of used as a metric for the. The black and white flag stuff. So you're effectively, like quote, unquote allowed to break truck limits back three times, and they'll start waving that flag at you at that stage If you do something particularly agrees egregious, it might be earlier it's kind of at the stewards Discretion but if you've done it four times, that's kind of the way they say in the rule book, thus you're going to penalized fresh. You can be track limits four-times aggressively enough. They can black flag you entirely and you'll more than likely get a drive through penalty at that stage or some time out of Tier Sierra. To your race am so that's kind of the way of a in the end. It didn't really matter surfer Sebastian I think he broke twice he out on the first lap and the also had thus. There was somebody he had he he went wide on. A Not Love Field I'm the one at the end of the hangar straight while someone call the right handed the ended hangar straight. He went wide on Dutch to lops in a row. He'd at the same point it was really bizarre to see. So? I. Think. He might have had a third one actually it would delete but. A fast lap. Would it not? It will delete a fastest lap as so yeah. Potential minus one point I think also in the case of practice and qualifying or. Maybe just practice. I remember earlier in the year when Austria was getting rained or was it Hungary one of them's getting rained out they thought they might not be able to do qualifying until they would use practice time best practice times. To set the grid. So that could rear its head they're weird tiebreaking scenarios Yeah. It's you're right. It's sort of a formality like a kind of need to be there. Yeah, it's one of these rules that you you don't need it until you need it it's there a service of of other star things, which is kind of way to do. So I know I understand people during the race might be like, what's the point into leasing a lap? It's it's basically just because of this broader short of. Institutionalizes a come on now? Esscalation. consequences. Yeah. It's like it's like when you've been batting class and the teacher makes note of us so that when they try and suspend you, they can go oh, you've done it like seven times now. Rob Do you mind taking this next one. Sure. Jess writes. These stupid van Cams are really starting to annoy me. They literally go insane half a lap in with nothing happening another guy goes insane woo. say same train pass for the twentieth lap in the same order and Oh my God that milk guy I saw the milk guy didn't like whatever that was I agree I I have turned against the Fan Kim Okay I think and here's my case against the Fan Cam. It's like Doug Shit cyberpunk stuff. Like. Like the finger reminds me of is minority report when like the ads start speaking to you in everything this is just Like, all the worship people expected from augmented reality but it's happening in this one really corny way, which is like people making reaction gifts of themselves and like those seeing them up there and they just go up randomly and out of context So yeah, I'm against them we need to win the brain to a home I think sure. I agree I'd I think they're Corny and I don't I don't need them. I was kind of into into a best. I thought it was so stupid that that I was kind of intuit again I was. Shown up there. That was hilarious. That was like, but also that was very mimi. That was very I started. Well, although I've I've gotten deep into his videos. He does these he did a silverstone track walk. That was so fucking detailed I, watched like forty minutes of it. It was amazing. But he still does thing he like you go on my website to Mike to get a voucher for this raffle, and then it's all for charity but it still like really heavy handed. I will say there's like this whole m. You know the idea of like whatever emails you read out on a podcast will basically create the type of email that you answer like when people hear that certain emails or read they didn't sandy at emails like the long ones short ones questions whatever is right and it's the same with this thing where they've shown to many of these just completely outlandish things. So now they have the milk guy like I'm worried the next one's going to be like people in their backyards setting themselves on fire or just like the most Mimi stupid yes. There they're all like. Like. The I. Go. What's lights? The Guy the first slop on the first turn is like he looks like he's hides like all the cocaine. which is one and if there were people there at the at the. In the. What was Just those days are behind us. Drew you WANNA to take this one from Orion. Ryan Says Message Cohen. Does. What or is that you Dan is just the Pesach. Ryan says does Hoke with one results, netting him six points finish in the top sixteen for drivers this year. he is fourteenth now with six points. That is true. Okay. So I'm looking at the list now he's in fourteenth place six points behind him. In fifteen and. Yeah tied for Fifteenth Juvenile's Ian Kennedy at and they have two points. I May Have Magnusson Reichen and Latifi Russell and grow John That is Alfa Romeo Alfa. Haas Alfa Romeo Williams Williams. Haas I think caveat will get up there. Okay I? South the rest. Yeah. Those Alfa, Mayo's do not look good. Could they get? Five points. Off Brand Ferrari of this is. What can we get some points? You think like if you have a Nazi gets more because all you need is a race where like four people maybe six people don't finish raising huge. Unless they unless they end up unless like Majella has A. slip and slide segment of the trash that I haven't heard of I I don't know isn't Majella I've I've said this way but also Miguel Miguel. Gallo yeah. I knew John Tell the. Feeling I heard Jello but I don't trust it i. don't trust that. Jesus is the hardest shop depending on where you are in Italy. That's another great question. At six points. This question you guys can. Please do. From the source. Just so people know as well up that six points is for seventh and then it's four eighth two for nine, th and one for tenth, and of course, the extra for fossils slop. So you so you'd really want to be getting like you need to have like multiple points finishes to to clear sixth. Yeah like that's that's a repeated. Ten Tenth Place Higher I don't have confidence in any of those in the Alpha's the Haas or the Williams repeatedly finishing in the points. Yeah, I think I'm with you I. Think I think he will question was whether or not getting the top sixteen I think definitely. I think is definitely I think. Yes. But also I wouldn't be surprised if he if he going onto fourteen. I think it'll jump up there you think. Okay. Yeah. Russian. GRUMPY is coming up. Sure. Putin will throw spanners in some. Some cars to make it happen. All right. That's it for emails. You can also hit us on twitter shift if one podcast. Mattress scanlon. That's at Danny. O'Dwyer at Rob Zach. That's US around the Internet. Should we take it around the World Dan? You who who? Yeah I was padding so that rob kick at an answer from his Italian thing. There's a lottery of happening. This weekend four really is completing their vote finale we are in the middle of it remember their. Time. Yes. Six races back to back to back to back to back to back. That ends Thursday August thirteenth. We got indycar qualifying for the Indianapolis five hundred but interestingly. The the occasion where for no Lonzo failed to qualify and did not race in the indy five hundred will not be happening this year. Everyone who has entered will start the race. This will determine. The order. Also, they've abandoned their plan to have fans there, which is a good call. Good. have DTM. String. Oh. We have F two and F three supporting the one at the Barcelona circuit personally loonier. Yeah Go. Check. Those. Already, they were Super Super Fun. of. The World Endurance Championship has rescheduled there six hours of SPA to this weekend from May. supercar. Are Competing in whereas this Hidden Valley Motor Sports Complex in. o- on hidden. Valley road in Hidden Valley Australia. For the I was. So going, Darwin triple crown. Go ahead Danny. Sorry. No I got an email from I'm on because I used to live in the. DC area. So I got an email from Washington football team came up on my. First of all this spam and I was like, oh no I forgot that they did that. But of course, just for for for fun I decided to do a little scrub of the email and the link they sent me to see. How much head deep they had gone with the reruns. But of course, like all of their everything else is still redskins because they haven't gotten a new name yet. So like the football stadium is still on the old name road, and of course, they're all servers. Stuff is all named after the all team. So I I really hope listing that they have a deadlock for a long time and are forced to print merchandise with Washington football team. Stuck in. Yeah. It's it's it's so default. It's like the Kirkland, signature of NFL teams. Yes. Motor GP is racing at the Red Bull Ring for the Mo- tyrod Grand Prix on earth strike. And then. Motocross is racing in Sweden for the IMAX GP of Sweden. And then we have. The Trinity here, the NASCAR xfinity series is at the Daytona International speedway for the the. The, what the what drew this is the finnity series. We don't do the voice. I've started including the the Nascar Feeder just because I wanted to rain more race names but they don't. They don't know. It's not okay. To the minor leagues. Xfinity doesn't get that voice. Affinity gets the like thanks for calling. Ground like Grand Prix that's the the the your call is important to us five hundred. Your race is important to us the you know one, eight, eight at the Daytona. Road course. You know or no it's. It's all caps U. N. H. Uniform November Oscar Hotel. Okay. At the Daytona road course. Gander mountain trucks are also at Daytona where these sonoko one, fifty nine. Getting real weird here with our Our LAP numbers. Just Wait a minute. Back there. It's not the lap number. It's the it's the mileage, but it says. On the NASCAR website it says the Sunarko one, fifty, nine, forty, three, laps one, fifty, three miles. Is. It called the one fifty nine then. We also have national or practice. Awesome at the Daytona International speedway for the go bowling two thirty. Yeah nobody going bowling these days. With the lexcen shields between all the lanes. Or wash balls even more. Wines washing the balls, washing the means downfalls why? Did this two years ago with the go bowling thing whereas they used bowling. Okay and like go bowling is this advocacy website. And I'm still up like this is still a thing and I'm just curious like now what is this all about right? Like what is the actual is is this like the the lobbying arm of the bowling lobby and like they got like mad money to throw around I have no idea but it fascinates me. What if go bowling is just like a huge front for like a vampire money or something like because it makes no sense why bowling is still around like theirselves. Old Karst money. It does I love bowling like. Bowling. Like bowling as a few things going for it, it's fun even if you're bad which golf is not. Like you're not slowing anyone down when you're bad bowling, you are just like hanging out there and also like. There is a point re to where you're too drunk to play, but it's pretty far. Though I will say at a bowling alley, the in New, York Patrick clapback and I were at Before all of this began we did see a guy who appear to be wasted enough that he was our king, his bowling ball. Like A, it's around his release point wasn't he wasn't lowering into the ground rolling it. He was following through with the ball still in his hand and just sort of letting it flop off his fingertips as his arm came up, past his head and the thing just sale. Like fully a third or half way down the lane, and then just like smash into the boards like an audible like building shaking like Thud. So he wasn't using any like little like Kitty Ball. He was like using one like the fourteen pound stors, but he was keeping it in lane. Yeah. Yeah. I like the results weren't good 'cause you kill all your energy with the impact and doesn't roll for shed. But it was remarkable. I've never seen it. I've never seen it before that was somebody who needed the educational tools and resources that go bowling dot com. Provided. was trying to clear those oil lions, but he just went too far. He was like you know what this lane needs is character needs texture. This excited like a little bit of tear Warr on this this particular lame. Like the rare tire of a Mercedes. Should be crater topography. Yeah. There's one more wrinkle I I'd like to point out here for the NASCAR races this weekend this is the. The the wroval the. Road Oval. Of configuration of the Daytona International speedway. So all right to set the stage here. Max Staff and recently said, he thinks that. The. The timeline for the Imola race is stupid because they are only having two days. Instead of the normal three. So that there for the race for the one, they're having only one ninety minute practice session. which is going to be I think it's great because like we were just talking about how hard it is to dial in the tires. Racing Sims kids. Yeah. Let's do it Steve in the shift of Patriot discord pointed out that. Since. NOT ONLY DOES NASS CAR Not Do they're not doing any practice or qualifying. For this whole season, they just start the race. Not only that. No one has raised the Daytona wroval in an NASCAR stock car. So. Oh that's wild. No one knows what's going to happen. That's so strange that are all in Sims than trying to. But that's so. Yeah God's we've never been here before. I. Think. A lot of field has not done road courses before. So. There's going to be some right turns here. fellas figure it out when the lights go? Green. And speaking of trucks, the inaugural shift at one patron world trucks race took place in IRA seeing this weekend. Just WanNa. Shout out a congrats to Navas maize on the victory. We Love You THAT'S THE ONLY A. Racing trucks implementation is that I can't think of another game that has maybe points. I had some race trucks that you could like fuck around with but. So I saw someone saying that. After I re tweeted that from the shift of one twitter account that they thought that. Gander mountain trucks were like. Big Rigs which they do race in Europe. Big Rig racing. That's what I thought. Trucks were before I wa I saw trucks thing I, thought it was just those. Hiccup truck racing seems fucking awesome like I, Washington pickup truck races, and their little more fun to me than Nascar races I think is the balanced. The cars are so weird. It just looks nutty in a way that like. You're using no Pick up racing. The NASCAR? Up More like pickups this woman. Yeah. Right you not. An. The PICKUPS RIGHT Yeah. So I'm like if that's where I have to go for the for the pickup racing the maybe I do need to dust off that ally racing account and Power slide through some through some ovals. There are like, you know games have had like Baja trucks for unlike forget what they're called they're like. They look like vs they look like just these giant monsters of the dunes that I think was in the original dirt game. They have some crazy name, but those are all crawlers yet they look like. They looked like that. Anyway, I'm a big wreck fest has a pretty good like you can combine a bunch of stuff. So you can have a race where like everyone else's on like lawn mowers basically like why more style things and juror in like like an like an RV. Or. Like have a bunch of double decker buses. School buses racing against each other. An Oval or something it's great. Fun I. Love It. Woah. Racing. Formula. One cars around the Circuit de Barcelona Catalonia. For the Spanish Grand Prix this weekend Friday August fourteenth practice one starts at five am on ESPN, two eastern times for these. Followed by practice to at A nine am again on. ESPN two Saturday we have practice three at six am on ESPN rig. Then followed by qualifying at nine am on ESPN and then the race everyone. Sunday August sixteenth at nine zero, five, A. N. on E. S. P. N.. Baucus. That is a podcast have back through. Thank you. Yes. Could it be here? Any final thoughts, Danny. Lot of race in happened in labs hard to breathe. I'm looking to though but Jeez after the double header I was like. got a week off this weekend. No, we go to Spain. Yeah Pharma Races and I thought that we'd get this year in lot of they're still trying to get more onto the calendar that's Maybe. We can get eighteen races down this year and I'm like, that's a full season. Yeah they. Liberty media did not have such a great Q. Two so they need to. Need back here in the latter half of this year. On Saints. Well. Digital. Seats. Sport the show and get access to all of our bonus episodes. You can do so patriots dot com slash shift F one that's it for us. Have a good race weekend everyone. We will see you all next week.

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Cnn let's bring up CNN really quickly just to see that it works so you guys can fact check it along with us to be in the hospital When those patients get there when those patients need to go on just keeping you abreast of the stories that you need to know anything else Oh yeah that's right. Let's schedule to see all the shows available this whole month. All the way through may first. And of course subscribe on the apple podcasts and android all of that stuff. That's nice if you're a more of a morning guy I'm more of a morning guy sounded. I'm getting older. I'm getting older because I'm a morning guy. As late night host up very early I find myself very aggravated by the squirrels. The Bird Feeder My wife and I were watching television television. We actually watching cable. Television was Hulu and we watch Sanjay Gupta and he was showing how to wash your hands and he was going to say i. I'm like I know. All this gopher individually say happy birthday twice but then at one point he goes and look I clean my cuticle and he does this and sure he my wife and I were watching. We have an ell shaped couch so we weren't even right next to. You could have some telepathic communication. We just both went. Oh that's good and we felt very ashamed of ourselves all right so some of the latest Cova News Right now. Pfau chief okay. Hurry pronounce it. I don't really care. Predicted up to one hundred and two hundred thousand deaths in the United States and so trump has changed the guidelines. Now where we're going to be extending social distancing not until Easter which would be beautiful time. It'd be such a wouldn't it be a beautiful timeline? Poetics whatever mitigates the disease but I do understand. I do understand wanting to be hopeful and get the guy. He likes the narrative. Y- you know. We had it going until Easter when he rose and we destroyed the Kuroda virus. They rolled over the big blue to the tube. Okay they said there's no Irish Irish. She'd put your headed by say. We should do that unless you watch. The Kuroda you've had by savior committees to. Let's go to clip actually if Donald Trump for those who have missed it. This is the news this morning him. Changing or extending the guidelines therefore we will be extending our guidelines to April thirtieth to slow the spread on Tuesday. We'll be finalizing these plans and providing a summary of our findings supporting data and strategy to the American people. Okay so I want to be clear about something here. Everyone now saying okay. We're definitely going to have. The number is one hundred two hundred thousand deaths in the United States. You think that's accurate. I think it's as accurate as they can figure out right now. Right probably overblown. I think is accurate. They can figure out right now. Considering that the original study that they used for the modeling predicted two point five million in the United States and then in the UK was half a million. I believe and then down here to twenty thousand or keep or much less. Yeah what does that number? I know math guy. But that's different. Vetted mystically significant. It's like listen Ninety nine percent of Americans will die before the age of sixty this year. What really or one percent. We don't know some point. It pays to get some hand sanitizer. I appreciate the you know the verbal accuracy. Though right if you're like it's between zero and ten billion people will this year. I mean you can't. It's harder to get more accurate unless you said zero to eleven billion just making some space for the crazy thing is i. I've been watching CNN and preparing for this and you let me know. We'll we'll be chatting with you over there blaze. Tv It's easy to get scared. It's easy to get care when you want Chris. Coleman was on CNN GOING AND DONALD TRUMP. This is killing Americans. You have blood on your hands. You don't care about Americans and they go. We passed every other country as far as infections on the rate that matters is per capita that is relevant. Because he can't compare us to a country that has a tenth of the population depending on. Which contrary talking about you and if you look at the per capita death in the united it's very very low. It's like five cigare- compared to China Italy. It's not even close. It's not even close so it's easy to get scared. Of course I understand it. We should do what we can to avoid the virus. But this idea right now that you some hair somehow. Don't care about the deaths of Americans if you say hey completely crippling the economy which will lead to mass unemployment starvation and losing their insurance and potentially dying from other more deadly diseases. Yeah you do have to weigh the pros and cons of all these issues. There's no considering it In what I actually find interesting is that you'll see people talking about the lives and we need to do everything possible. No questions asked. We have to be able to save as many as we can and yet in the same statement they're like why can't we get back to work and it was like hold on. I'll let you understand that those things are different and so you're going to have to make some hard decisions and that government is wrangling with those things. Whether whether you're Democrat or Republican right no matter what side you're on both of those parties are trying to figure out. They have different ideas about what that solution looks like. And certainly we believe there's one of the ads is better than the other but it seems to me we're going. I said this before. We're going about it the wrong way arbitrary. Creating this list of what are the essential business how we do this. How about we in Italy in Italy ninety nine percent of people who died ninety nine percent of the New York Post had pre existing conditions? The guy who created the imperial study or was associated with the imperial study. Neil Neil Ferguson. Yeah he admitted that two thirds of the people who died from krona virus would have died within that year anyway. Now I'm not saying let's accelerate or decrease the surplus populations. We know what that is different. Lead to if ninety nine percent of people have a pre existing condition that is relevant. People should know that because if they don't have a pre existing condition. And they get the sniffles. Not only should you not go panicked by toilet paper but you should not be going to the emergency room and cluttering up space. That could be used for not only people with corona virus by the way there are still people out there with Emphysema on stage. Four cancer and other serious illnesses like they need care to and a lot of hospitals have shut that down. I think it was in Brooklyn. I don't have this in front of me. There was another hospital that opened today. Just serve non corona virus patients. Because they said they're being vastly under recognized by one of the big solutions is one of the big solutions as worked in other countries. And that certainly could be an option here. Is You identify the global who are well I mean? I think they're killing themselves. Not all of them just the ones who tipped two quarters. Yeah just those guys if it's if it's less than two quarters. Yeah I mean. I've got no sympathy. The Sanders is not kill. The Sanders is tipped to quarters only took them on. Do not resuscitate list. Right anyone out there in the service industry you know those people that I know you have a list. I know it's in red lipstick red lipstick. Are you talking to your mistress right? Now I don't communicate Billy Madison. Don't sex jokes. Mr Movie never saw Billy Madison steeper. Chevy's writing in the list and Red Lipstick the point. I think that you're about to me and you don't watch movies with the point. The point is the point. Is You've got people who are especially susceptible and we know without question. Nobody disagrees that more certain people in age groups or pre existing conditions are more at risk. So what we need to do is very strongly isolating those individuals because amongst even amongst the said this a long time ago and weeks ago isolate old people and the vulnerable we should be. This is just an opinion. Okay and you can get really upset with me. It's not that I don't care about GRANDPA and grandma. This is what we have in the office. We have young healthy people who have no symptoms. Who are. We probably had it in this office in January. Honestly because it was it came in much earlier than news and then the older employees who are over the age of fifty five are working from home. We've taken those precautions. I don't know why. Why don't we create a list of non essential businesses? That should be close. Why don't we create a list of people who should be quarantined at this point rather than say everything? Shut down everybody panic. Everybody stay in the house. When the fact is it's affecting a very small percentage of people. Here's something else that nobody tells you. The Corona Corona viruses the novel Corona Virus. But if you have cleaner and it's like that or you clean industrial kitchen. You have a bottle. And it says kills Corona virus been around for Awhile Corona Virus. Some form of it not this form is typically typically makes up somewhere. I think it was seven to fourteen percent of all influenza cases and right now the necessarily taking that into account so at this point at this point if you were to lump in all of IRA's deaths okay all coronavirus death with the flu deaths this year in other words if we had not recognized that we would just attribute all this to flu deaths. It's still wouldn't be an abnormally high season for flu deaths. So let's keep that in context. It matters we need to fight this. Thank God private. Industry is stepping up and helping us. But I am not this. I'm not going to be shamed into panicking. They're using the same tactics they use with climate. Change Right now with people if they go listen. I don't think that we should shut down everything indefinitely. We might look into some states opening up more industry specifically to people who aren't all that vulnerable in you or absolutely score you you're you're turned into this pedophile. Who writes for Salon? What's crazy about this as it's already happening right now. We've already made the decision to choose certain businesses and spiders because people will go. Oh I if if you're within six feet of somebody you're an asshole and it's you know I probably should hold my toddler. I I don't know parent right. Stay well but that's okay. Well what about at the grocery store well as long as you stay six feet away but if you grab the same box of cheerios. Yes like we already know that. There are ways to reduce the risks and it requires being specific. And right now I I get it like people. People are. Panicking governments are panicking. And they're just saying shut it all down just shut. Shut it down that the Italian prime minister no no down was happened to Texas cowboy hat down vic do a funny accent during every press briefing right and I mean I'm telling you morale will go through the roof. I don't know if it'll go through the roof with the funny voices. Yeah that's the thing I think they could just deliver it with a funny voice like eighty five percent of you probably going to slow painful death. They like to the Skateboard. Here is my clown. Changes comes in cleanse dead forgot by the way we should have. This is morning news roundup. The first thing that we do is morning news. Roundup already did a story but every morning news roundup. I don't know what that is. Yeah so much slurping. We got that music from First Baptist Church we still down from. I thank you for taking part at first. Baptist here's a little bit of what's going on in our neck of the woods. I think that's putting. Yeah by the way because he's down to three Chins roker. Yeah from six. He's dropped down from. I don't know about sex. You'd say five and a half I'm gonNA give him that Naff because seniors needs it Do we have actually before we move on? We have more. We do have a traffic report because morning. Show a new show for you. 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Giving the wall correct okay. Well it's a problem because I have a I have a centerpiece there in that wall with a with a vase so willing to move. This is why I appreciate it okay. Is there anything else we should know? Thomas that's about it. There is a pilot of earlier. But that's been cleared away so free Free Lanes for all. Okay thank you. This has been the traffic update with Tom. Now let's say next store atop finnegans mustache. It's well you know what it's from a bygone era. It really cited to hang onto it. You is still from a bygone era but remains that before I move onto the corona virus testing kids because good news. Anyone must know this the Pajama whole space. What is it with pajamas? Where they they put a button on the crotch but it's way high up and there's a look let me show you this. My wife had to add okay. My wife had to add this button. This button wasn't here where I'm wearing underwear. I'm wearing underwear. I'm wearing underwear but if I was not wearing under this this look at this. Why would you do this? Look at the space from here to here. Compared to space from here easily look at quarterback Shawn Shawn Yours to where to put a safety pin on quarterback Sean trump. It's the same problem desert from JC. Penney this is from hanes. Yup Look at it through poor-quality. Take your take your take your pin output finger through. This is a problem. I have three times where my my sean almost fell out audio late. Show us a pretty well. It's too. They decided we know with jeans. If you've button flies the buttons go all the way down the middle of the pets with pajamas. They decide off. We're going to close a gap of four millimeters at the top of the flap on bottom about a foot and a half. I'M GONNA make a sign. My brother David Girl in Pali and high school. I was wearing Joe Boxer. Pajama pants and I was turning. I was watching. Tv like this year on the book reading posts turned around because she was on the couch. And I turned around and when I turned around I felt a breeze. Wow and a late bloomer. So I was embarrassed because it's very small and then the other this this Christmas this Christmas. My mother-in-law gets me a thermal union suit. Okay because we're in Reno Nevada and we're skiing and stuff like that and I mean they ski and then I just drinking the in the Cabana does meat shutting down plot. I think at night you know what I'm GonNa put this on and go on down with my show that I enjoy the Jammie. She got me for Christmas and as I walk. There's a there's a sliding door mirror in the bedroom I take one step one step and it was enough for nursing too and my my pecker fell right out and I was going. I just avoid by the skin there. I just avoided my mother-in-law seeing all of it. Wow that's terrifying. Let me know if in the chat or tweet me at us as a man. If you've seen this every brand of underwear not underwear pajamas. Underwrite buttons and you'd think it would be the same underwear you you already figured it out over here right. Put It on the pajamas. Come to the point that my wife asked me if I bought my pajamas. Sex Shop. 'cause she thought they were. Crotch Lis- men's pajamas. They're not Aaron. This is just how they do it. Okay we're gonNA talk about Right now the FDA this is big news in Corona Everything is pretty much corn right now but a lot of people may miss why this is important the private sector is stepped up the FDA approved a new five minute corona test that could be a whole new ballgame. We have a clip to talk about it on Friday the FDA authorized a new test developed by Abbott Labs. That delivers lightning fast results in as little as five minutes. That's a whole new ballgame. Logging whole new ballgame ballgame snowball games. Totally illegal right now president. No Super Far Away from each other. You just can't tag each other. Yeah it can be sick ball out in the neighborhood and it's six feet apart six feet apart. What does stick ball? Is it just baseball with a stick words? I believe it's baseball for poor people is that what. T. Ball is baseball for HAMAS or or children. Yeah repeat ourselves. All these children keeping people missed. We talk about this Dr Choi last week right. He said odds getting getting better. We have we had five tests. Now we have thirty thirty five and that was from quest labs and I know that because I do blood work regularly from some kind of preexisting health conditions where I go there about every two months so I know quest labs. They're very quick. They turn around things quickly and using it they created a lab test for Corona. And now we're getting more tests and that's a private. That's a private less and this one is coming from I believe Abbott laboratories keep in mind that only a few weeks ago. The fastest test was several hours. Now we're talking about five minute tests that go up into your sinus film artificial intelligence we cut away of what it looks like when they put the thing down and actually touching uber. No but it's close. I don't think they have to do it anymore though. No just saw your skull. Think about this for a second one of those talking about how we need socialized healthcare and this we socialize healthcare well poll the CDC. They were the only ones who are cleared by the FDA to create these tests right. They weren't ready in time. And it took hours or significant turnaround time. They had to swab your brain and it didn't work the second. We approve any from private businesses. You can do it in five minutes at home and you don't have to scratch your Madurai album. GotTa do it is interesting. How many people are like? I can't believe we're going to let these private companies. Make money off this okay. So you're against jobs. Oh no I mean no not against jobs. Just people making money just at their jobs. Yeah let me simplify my point of view. Whoever developed secure for Corona virus should be a trillionaire? Oh Yeah step aside. Jeff bezos. I don't I don't care if you do next hour shipping. The guy guys just walked through. Sorry Jeff Corona swap corona swab. And you make crappy movies because you have all this money but for some reason you desperately want to be a part of Hollywood no understands. It's such as US really is why is he at the Oscars as a bizarre thing? Don't do we not think that the guy who creates a or this lab test deserve more than some loose pocket change right. Yes and can you name one example? The country one example during this pandemic people out there one example where the government has been more efficient than private industry stepping away. Any Senate tickets. I mean only in the things that they don't let anyone else do like nukes right. That's true well some of the corona virus but I mean maybe that's a cure every. Well I mean it is not kind of cure we want pheno depends. Yeah but it's it's it's not the nuking people look at you. Guys have a sore spot about that. One can literally radiation. It's not the folks at the post office that you want developing this pure. Yeah you want you want some folks who are had some innovation has ambition and actually use the stuff that they have the skills that they have right and yet make tons of money. And also I would. I would trust the Fedex like if we decided to entrust the cure to a carrier service. You're right go Fedex. Right I would believe that. By the way speaking of which We have sponsors here of good morning. Club is brought to you by toast charges putting butter on a regular piece of normal colored bread Sick of sopping up your plate of eggs with a second plate of eggs now. 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There are no longer so we can sell them to you by the way something to keep in mind the CDC the or it depends the FDA who you want to look at with this. They never replenish the stockpile of masks after he bola and I know this is insane that they didn't have the foresight to go. Hey we just had a giant giant thing gone and we used all sorts of things as descriptive. We had a giant thing on. I'm GONNA say anyways and they didn't think to replenish them as well. They're going to blame. Donald this came out they try to blame donald trump because he was sending over equipment to China right and there's always blaming the the stock wasn't replenishing he sends up the China. Keep in mind just a few weeks ago. They were blaming him for not sending enough supplies to China so they were blaming enough supplies so he felt like he had to send some supplies right. And of course. Then you realize oh wait. Don't have enough. They'd ever replenish the supplies. That's like me. Wait wait wait. It is not a sponsor because they're sold up prepare with crowder. We had those sort of conspiracy theorists now. My wife and I ate all the oatmeal because it was so tasty better than oatmeal and then we realized when this went down. What do we have as far as you? Don't have the Broccoli Cheddar Soup to starve Rodeo. We just we didn't we didn't replenish. GotTa starting toilets remarkable to me that he has been blamed for sending stuff to China. I understand I don't think you should have sent equipment to China. I think you should have bookkeeping. Might at that point. We didn't know how bad it was going to be. Because they told us that it wasn't going to see sending masks to China that were made in China. No He's the one we can probably be. Donald Trump is the one president one leader. Maybe there's another one. I don't know like in Botswana. I HAVE NO IDEA. But of the major countries who's re? They refused testing kits. I think and masks or math I think in China China and they don't work. What doesn't work the masks? Yeah so the master come from China. People been using them. They're like yeah. You know those masks that you thought they were helpful. I don't do that. All-chinese higher failure rate. Donald Trump said no masks from China. There's a video floating around of guy in Chinese manufacturer and he's rubbing the masks on his shoes. Have you seen that? Why would that does corona seasons? He's doing this before he ships out the masks. They're all there in the manufacturing place. It just seems spiteful. Hope you enjoy friendship I. This is the thing he might be retarded because in friendship. True story my wife my wife was. This girl was really jealous of my wife's relationship with her aunt and what they would go to sometimes disneyworld people. This is a special needs group and so they would go to disneyworld every year in either other mentally handicapped say special needs Mentally Disabled Whatever the term is that doesn't offend. Most of the. She was upset that my wife had a close relationship with her aunt who was leading this function. Disneyworld and my wife came home. I shouldn't be wearing shoes. Should I say why? Are you wearing shoes? I'm wearing shoes. I don't know but my wife came home to her hotel room and Disneyworld that night and out of spite special needs girl had. She was snow angel in my wife's bed and rubbing her shoes on the pillow because she was jealous of her aunt. But it's the kind of behavior. It's the kind of behavior that you accept. Because she's mentally handicapped or a member of ANTIFA writer right-center bus. That's my point. Is this prejudice of soft expectation right. It's wonderful for mentally disabled people. Not so much just because someone is a minority. Like I wouldn't allow you to rub your feet on my pillow. It's okay you don't have to let me I. It's true well it's already happened. So it was Kinda footbinding wrapping it in a pillow case in tying it up with a nice bow. What else do we have here? Cdc The only place approved to I don't know get JFK. Oh that's right. Here's something else that I saw this morning and news in the morning This is important the FDA. They're still preventing obviously some private companies from conducting as many tests as they could some companies could supply one hundred sixty thousand a day. They're only allowing hundred thousand and Donald Trump. Remember this when he'd had that That What do you call it? Summit press conference whatever. He's doing the briefings early and he said maybe we could find a way to reuse masks. Were maybe you could spray them with some kind of Brits and they said there's no way to sterilize. These masks the FDA has now amended its initial approval. Granted early Sunday now allowing Battelle to sterilize. The end ninety five surgical masks without a daily limit. That can be sterilized. Reused Twenty Times thanks to the. Fda's loosening rules so if just capitalism is allowed to go unchecked. We're going to beat this corona virus and then we're we'll C. N. B. They also gentlemen. We have to preserve the job of second rate reporters. We do by allowing this virus. Let's see single second yes I am. I'm saying that because that's not live. That's a lie. Let's go to live CNN right now. We're looking at the Uss Comfort Hospital. Okay Tha that's another interesting by the way was it the Princess Cruise. Oh yeah the Princess Cruise. I think you have three thousand Tito second. This is a little more free flow. You guys. We'll chat with you soon. The Princess Cruise had three thousand seven hundred seven hundred of them. Got Infected the death when you shit was one percent and when you account for people who are below the age of seventy it was much much lower. The death rate for people who are below seventy didn't have any kind of pre existing conditions you were talking about miniscule amount. It's the closest thing that we have to a sample study of knowing who's infected and knowing as much as we could possibly know about health effects. No one's talking about it. It's remarkable team. Yeah well because all you're saying that all of those people on the boat were tested. Seven hundred of them seven hundred something positive right and then there's a one percent so yeah that that is basically a lab experiment all just because they're they're all floating around. I mean they're not willing guinea pigs. Don't get me wrong. They weren't thrilled the victim of circumstance. Which shows to get on that boat? Guinea pigs are not willing pigs usually there. So that's true but we don't really care right every single guinea pig signs away. Oh I didn't know that little little tiniest popper marks it's really just claw marks and on the other side of the door once you lock them in and we take that as a form of it's the door consent also by the way consent big issue for Guinea Pigs in the in the fraternity sorority houses. Lots of Guinea pig rape yeah. It's a real problem. Is that no that was just guinea pigs. Well that's what you'd think. In other words we just say Guinea pig Ghana Guinea pig. But we didn't take into account that many male guinea pigs have been oppressed for a long time. Like they're not they're not big fans of it Well we should care but like when we say the copulate like rabbits. We just think that rabbits. We assume that both parties involved right wanted to copulate. Yeah so we assume it's just a Chinese something that breeds a lot a lot. A lot of people. Three billion Chinese eighteen billion rabbits Turns out it's actually just rape no. This colloquialism is really minimizing which colloquialism the they copulate. Why Guinea Pigs catching up? What I'm saying rabbits are similarly different levels right right. I know that they're different. And the Chinese red the Richard Gere Story. My point here is that we are both willing participants and we are now finding out. That's not the case. Richard Gere was not the consenting party. No that's the that's the tragedy of that story is Richard. Gere was the one who was saying. Oh really yeah poor guy. He just can't catch a break now. All of this stuff is straight to DVD that crappy dog film everywhere. Oh Gee what was called to hush? Google docs still waiting train. Stay for road. Perogie the Polish Dog Rogie Harare We're GONNA get a little bit Trump's president trump slow response. That's what he's been accused of here recently but before we do that actually. I want to keep things in context. We'll get into some of your chat here and a little bit or sending pictures in the morning with your Mangat Twitter dot com slash as crowder. Keep it in context because Canada things are very different. As a matter of fact right now there are people who are being arrested and fined thousands of dollars for going outside and violating the lockdown orders. Which to me is really scary. Just as scary or scary. Corona virus is the complete absolve -ment of rights that have been longstanding. Because we're afraid of the microbe not saying it's not serious but that is equally. We need a way this so Actually our favorite Greek Canadian who helps work with the show behind the scenes But he's going to be a Canadian correspondent right now to provide a little context and hopefully make you feel better about your day. Let's go to stories with Penn tells you I know it's crazy but I wanted to give you a story to let you know that it could be worse like be positive. Everything's going to have a buddy couple of years ago He went to jail and we had a little party that we were all out at Little Wafi. Got Agila wasn't for him the party but he was there and I started making jokes about prison because I like to screw with people and then he stormed out of the room and one of my friends. There told me told me a lot of jokes. He you went kinda crazy in jail. Because apparently he He watches too many movies and when he got into Joe because he didn't know anybody in there he went attack someone that was like a known tough guy and he ended up getting the shit kicked out of him and then raped repeatedly by a lot of people and it was like a daily occurrence where he beat up and raped so Could always be worse as I'm saying don't don't do the crime if you're not willing to go to jail and raped and if you don't want to go through that or if you're not willing to rape maybe that would have helped. Point is this virus could be worse. It's always nice to put things in context as you by the way. Bill had to go urinate. Oh my goodness he is a bulldog but he has a very small bladder. Bulldogs have pretty small. That's right because horrendous inbreeding. Yeah like a designer breed. You gotta sit him in their in their Euro. Gravity Chair And put a C-PAP on them while they sleep massage. There lower intestine so that they can they can make. It's almost like they shouldn't so they can make nicest the bulldogs they really shouldn't exist delivered by C sections. This nature does. Yeah make make. I've never seen this before. Well it makes sense. Just make me think it might be language. I like it. I don't know I like sign. My mom used to use it every now and then thinking. Yeah it's disgusting. Hey let's go to CNN real quick and see what they have right now. We've gotten wrong so far and it's all about. How can we help? These folks try to get back on their feet. Try to get through weather the storm. This is not just an issue in San Diego but this is an issue obviously all across the country. I really tried to set the tone here in San Diego. It's not if you're Democrat Republican. It's bringing this city together putting policies. They're gonNA CLO Damn Door Bill. Come on San Diego Mayor. Good luck we wish right. Let's go fred. Ormiston addressable total total cases and deaths on their behalf. The United States total cases and deaths. This is something when you tune into. Cnn and one of these mornings will be doing watching CNN. And in fact checking during the break almost like an ombudsman. Those numbers are significantly lower than deaths from the flu significantly lower and so it does matter when the models that were use predicted twenty to fifty times higher deaths. Especially when you consider the fact that these deaths are significantly lower than registering right now if you take into account people who are over the age of eighty or if you take into account people had serious preexisting conditions who were going to die within that year anyway not saying. We shouldn't take care of them because there's a socialized healthcare country. That's very common in Canada or in Italy where they just don't help you no matter what the fact that the do not resuscitate order is a controversy in the United States. Tells you the different standard of care that we have here but they just WanNa toss up to scare everybody and show that the United States has handled this the most poorly actually look at countries with socialized healthcare systems? And you'll get the per capita deaths. We have handled it incredibly. Well the biggest hiccups the biggest logjams that we have had have been the FDA and the CDC and it's still happening. It's still happening with cures. It's still happening with vaccinations. It's still happening with tests. Think about everything that we've had problems with. We need more masks and private industries stepping up to fix it. We need more ventilators private industries stepping up to fix it. We need more tests. Private labs are stepping up to fix it. We more space private hospitals private private caretakers now. The doctors now are reaching out and helping people. I wouldn't be surprised if at some point they start creating like at home care centers. Yeah well there's a lot of doctors and not just a random guy to trucks athlete. Well speaking of the media trying to scare people I mean. It was trending on twitter this morning. Cbs News was using shots from an Italian hospital and when they were talking about New York right so it's it really is a big part of this narrative. So I if you show if you show these pictures of like thirty beds full of people it's GonNa make a difference where you say. So yeah as I said it was. Turning onto the snow it would horrify Americans outside of the krona virus shots of Italian Hospitals. Jared period. Yeah people don't realize when I went to it was blodget hospital. When I moved to Michigan. It was in grand rapids and I was. This is when I sort of our two times that I can remember going to. The hospital was tore my knee completely tort and I had to get knee surgery and the other time was turned out. I had a small like stomach flu and I got need in the balls and so what happened was I went to this show because I was like. Oh my stomach's really bad and my balls were hurting. And so that seemed like something considering what I've gotten about. Was this kid who was teaching like a little kid. Need me in the balls but it was like three days later delayed reaction so I went to the hospital. They were like drink. Some Kiefer is your balls. That was the fix. That was the first time I've went to an American hospital. It my wife took me in these. This is like a hotel. I've never seen anything like this and I know not. All hospitals are great here and not all hospitals are terrible but if you take the best hospitals in Montreal when I lived there. It wasn't even close to this hospital which wasn't considered necessarily top. Tier was an average hospital. The Best Hospital in Canada would be a horror show to most Americans let alone Americans mostly going like twenty four hour emergency clinics. Now it's like going into a hyatt. They're everywhere it's like going into a springhill suites so if you were to show any Americans just Italian hospital right my God. What a horror show. That was before July. We should do it before we should just get a bunch of photos from before and be like. Is this the hospital today? I mean it's just a very different standard and in other countries where you have to you know the commodities healthcare. You just can't afford the kind of things that we have here and part of the question is you're never asking is Italy. GonNa come up with. Some cure is enraged. Where's the same? I mean all eyes are going to the US. Okay who's GonNa fix this US us? I I I don't understand how the US is criticized for being number one right but then is the sheer fact of being number. One is is a point to be critical. And then because you didn't do enough because you're number one your critical as well Intervene no no. No don't intervene. Yeah like interview but just give us money but then leaves Joan intervene but pay three times the average amount of pays into NATO. We actually have a national agreement role supposed to percent. You're paying three point. Six countries are paying point nine percent. How about this when we pay our own stimulus bills which I have a problem with that too. By the way I have a problem with the stimulus bill because I think there's a reason for small businesses right when you support businesses for the people. Don't lose their jobs. We delineate between those people who had to shutdown the restaurants who had to shut down their place at business because the government said you are no longer business everyone else. Don't don't patronize their business. We need to delineate between that. And the Airlines. Who are going to be requiring a bailout within the next two years anyway. No no no no no you guys don't get it. Only the people we directly acutely affected. Get any money so I think it's important to note that one is Tony. Capitalism and one is an appropriate purview of government. If they see this national yeah and we shouldn't treat blowing the same way we treat the nail salon down the streets. Yeah it's very different fail. Sorry don't believe it. I believe that South West. And He's other airlines who haven't required bailouts will step up and American Airlines should cease to exist. Big Fan of airlines are big fan of airlines big fan of big banks big Fan of health insurance industries. These are the industry's big fan of big energy. These are the industries and companies. That have been bailed out time after time after time. And guess what there haven't been nearly as many new competitors. You can't compete with a never ending supply of federal funds. We need to delineate between that. And the people who've been directly affected because the government effectively shut down their business. Here's something else. No one wants to talk about this but since it's morning and I don't have to show mapping just You know I can get in trouble. We don't pay that China's debt until they fix this. I you know what I would say. One point two trillion. Sorry that saying we're never going to pay it but you know what you should. You should give us a discount. You should give the whole world discount by the way we For lying about this for being dishonest for not telling people what was actually happening and NATO. Let's say you know what we're paying three point. Six percent the international grimness two percent the average I believe is somewhere between one to one point. Three percent what most nations pay. We pay three point six. We say. Guess what we're GonNa pay the average anyone else pays until they step up right that you're talking about anywhere from five hundred billion to one point five trillion dollars. Let's start rearranging. Let's footing the bill for the rest of the world. Just like the rest of the world is looking to us for some kind of cure right now and who we look at the government but private industry and the rest of the world benefits from a president. Same thing. You don't get the subsidize drugs. This is true. I sometimes you can order name brand drugs from Canada and they're cheaper than the United States. Why because all the costs are burdened here in the United States? It costs more here at subsidize abroad and so they don't have to pay as much. Guess what do you want to use? American made or American manufacturer drugs invented United States from American pharmaceutical companies. You pay premium. Are People pay less off the bat you pay more this is? This is the America I that I can be on board with. Not Tariffs not trying to shut down global free enterprise or trade on a fair level which isn't happening with China most of the time but this idea that we shouldn't be footing the bill for everyone else right now. I don't know is it me? Is it me but I see it and I go hold on a second. How about. We got some funding to NATO. How do we tell China to go? Sit On wirebrush and rotate. Until they decide to figure their crap out. We're not they're not going to be holding our debt and let's make people pay for the drugs that we create and invent something right now corona virus. This is what happens. All it's cruel really. Why isn't it cruel for you to suckled at our teat for decades? These people brag about socialized healthcare. Just like they brag about having a small a military year. It works here. Why don't work there churn? Well you have a smaller military budget candidate. Why because we foot the bill for healthcare? No no we shouldn't subsidize the world. We shouldn't fund the world for healthcare. Why should you all benefit from our private healthcare industry and instead while you simultaneously demonize it between every single election? I do think that there's an incredible amount of people who realize the dichotomy between saying. Hey Candida you WANNA benefit from being our neighbor. From all of the military prowess we have the collateral benefit candidates from being next to America is people don't can't even imagine economically militarily all the different things that benefit. Canada ensure okay. It's fine you guys want to criticize. Hey we're we're definitely the land of dissent right. We're we're we have a free media everything and they don't. They don't have it as much they're gonNA they're gonNA shut you down on eight speech but the whole point of the matter is just. There's a simple list now. If you want the Ben if you want the benefits you're going to have to pay for it and when I say I don't necessarily mean money per se right. It could be support. It could be being on board with certain policies that we have it could be on board with punishing a other countries. That shouldn't be right the number of times where Canada has diverged. We've said hey we don't like those civil rights abuses in this country working to put sanctions on them and the rest of the world goes. I can't believe I can't believe you would punish so socialist for murdering dissidents and LGBT's at all. I can't believe you would continue to do that. America just get on board. Just say hey guys if you want the benefits yeah you gotTa take the rest as you know is a great example. We'd have to get to get your butt. A great is the sort of If you look at the chasm between people being offended by Chinese virus versus the people of China so the American media is like you can't say that because there's going to be violence committed against Chinese Americans which of course none of us want to see but then you look at people who are trying to circumvent the Chinese government censorship. And they're going tell the world tell the world the Chinese virus because they harmed us. These people are upset with government. Keep in mind that guy who said Donald Trump don't just China China is. That guy was he was North American. Okay yeah they feel about the government. Empathizing with the Chinese people requires ridiculing the Chinese government. Because they are it is it is. This has been allowed to go unchecked. And you've always economist. GonNa say well. China's the next great superpower of the world. You know what only have good people? Don't stop them and do something because this is there has to be somewhere where it stops and people are are no longer abused by one of the most oppressive regimes that we can think of and modern mankind. Let's not act as though American workers in a Ford plant on the same playing field as the kids working at an apple factory. It's not fair it's not right we need to. Americans. Do we have on the line. I believe we have right now. Our guest for the show mood Alma mood and he is the director of Public Relations at Isis Mahmoud. Are you there sir? I haven't here Stephen. Thank you for having me. Then you see you again thank you. I'm glad to see you sir. You look bright eyed and bushy tailed whip from. Where are you calling right there? I'm seeing some boxes behind you. Yeah I'm glad we're doing Corinthian. You know here in Providence. We've been deemed by unbought province. They'll be non-essential. Okay get I am well. I looks more like similar. Where you would be lined up for a police photo. What are those lions and the White Wall? It looks like the usual suspects. You know there are blurred lines for sure okay. Let me ask this mood. How're you? How are you adapting right now with Isis? To the new social distancing guidelines. Well Stephen I'll be honest. Quarantine bears a very close resemblance to my actual life. Okay so How Song? Anyway we've been in quarantine since two thousand three or so So you know. Being in this subterranean bunker is The kind of life as usual. Okay all right. Do you have any? Do you have any big plans for the quarantine then or Jimmy plans when you're done with it? Yeah you know. Turn to Do in the spring cleaning for sure. I've been into this tiger king. Have you seen Tiger King? I have I have been watching kings. That is not emblematic of all of the United States. By the way okay. 'cause I was like that's pretty cool. You know go well then that case we are all. We are all Joe exotic. Yeah Pretty Much. Everyone here is like that. Yes yes yes I would hope so. Yeah I like to think that you know So Carol Kilter. Carol killed her husband in to the Tigers. Trying to recruit carol vast. So I'll just leave it there. I don't need you know effective so effective. Yeah yeah trying to get in on the bidding war saying okay What do you guys do you? What do you do as far as social? I think you froze there for a second social distancing also washing hands. It's a little bit different there in your culture because you eat from the communal bowl and we had a toilet paper shortage but you guys don't necessarily use toilet paper. So how does it affect people like you and in Respect ways we do. Have it easier Stephen? That's what you're getting. Yeah it's absolutely it's absolutely through And so we will we will. We will see how how it's going. Do you have enough toilet paper over this now. We don't that's the problem with a dog. You guys aren't big fans of that in her her. She loves toilet paper. That's her thing. So it's it's the worst living being. You could possibly have in house with you during this quarantine. I'll take good. Okay what's this this? Is I see what you're doing now. You're trying to well look to do that. I can drink from my mug and look WHO's advertising Egypt. What does he is he advertising for tourists spot for Egypt or I'm just not been to Egypt. Oh it's lovely this time of year. Have we yeah? Well we're also. We also were planning on going to Medina but that had to be canceled very recently. Because you know Mac to safe you know the the large groups right now. It's IT'S A it's A. It's a very very tough well though I think. More people are actually trampled Going to Medina and Mecca annual basis than the corona virus. So you know you take some of the different like so many things in life you know. It's IT'S A. It's a balance of risks. Yes balance of risk. I appreciate you letting US know that. Hey we have to get going here but my mood what would be what's your hope. Or what advice do you have to Americans as the The Public Relations Director For Isis Yeah. You know well I I think that I think that the the the the end is near as I often say. That's good to know. Yeah hopefully hopefully hopefully it's Some some something where we can find a lot of common ground right and And then we can get back to where you're scared of me. Okay all right. Thank you very much mood. Alma mood. stay safe. Use Your hose on your left hand. Donate from the communal. We will see you next time. Thank you Sir noted Stephen. I don't want them to trace their call. Mahmoud El Mahmoud showing the softer side of Isis. What a guy he's just. He's a lover. Were you about to say something there? quarterback you look at one point. You were leaning in no no. I was just oh and various I wanted to know what you say. Hey Look CNN. Look another guy. Talking from his from his Closet literally to do their job of American people need what these states needs to respond to this and this is true behind him. This is remarkable to me. I will say this these these production companies you look at CNN. You look late night hosts. They're so used to having. I think Leno had one hundred and forty seven employees. I know it's over one hundred for every late night show. It's well over one hundred for most shows at CNN. Not to mention writers producers segment producers. And what happens is they have all this money and it goes away because of a self quarantine and so. They just decided well. Just turn on your iphone you can. There's a middle. There's a middle ground. Look at what we're doing here. They don't have anything. This is what happens. This is the great equalizer when there's some kind of a pandemic going on we can create better more polished content then all of CNN. Second this is more this show no what when people think of a lot of credit. You don't think Polish as a matter of fact what we told you guys when we said Mudd club quarantine month. Everything's going to be free in front of the paywall plus more content than ever because we want to interact with you what we told you. Listen there's going to be less Polish. I didn't anticipate this. Someone Broadcasting from George Michael's Porta Potty in Los Angeles in a public park. I like you know what do they say? You don't have to run the fastest. You just have to run faster than the last Guy Right. And that's Alaska. Cns race to the middle and this is also why they're putting pressure on on Youtube and all these sort of new media companies right because what happened is they had this sort of not a monopoly but a few major news networks right they were on cable. That's what people had and they had this kind of classic corporate budget cost structure and now they can't afford it and won't it's a race to the middle. They're trying to downgrade. They're trying to cut down costs. Were building up right. So they're coming down from one hundred and forty employees to maybe. I don't know like ninety and we're going from eight twelve fifteen. Hopefully one day. Maybe twenty employees join muck club. Thirty dollars off this month. It's quarantine we're not making anything off of Youtube so we're intersecting there at the middle. So what happens? Nbc? Vox Universal. They tried to step in and get youtube is shutdown competitors. Do you have. Abc ABC DISNEY ABC Disney. Step in. And they say you know what we're going to try and flag and copyright and shutdown people who criticized content then. They start running more advertising dollars on Youtube so that they can manipulate what gets what's considered advertiser friendly and it still doesn't work. People are not tuning in so there is a silver lining here right now that I think we've learned the media is not the well we've known this for a while but it's on showcase right now twenty. Four hours right yeah. They're not the people that we thought they were. They don't care about you. And and most of all and most offensively of all they're incredibly lazy and right now. They're running for for Saint Jude. That's nice but I've been looking at. It's been nothing but like gold. You would think that people who watch CNN spend their days crapping themselves buying precious metals all day honoring up on their camp do. What's the median. Age Down To? Now Ninety three knock it come on those ninety nine year olds. Don't have long ninety. Three year olds airport by the way. What are seeing ends ratings right now because no one's at the airports are they counting the dentist's Office Lobby Non Stop? I'm going to be. That's the greatest compliment Anderson. Cooper's received act actually aged pretty. Well you turn on the graph. That's about the. That's what they have on rotten tomatoes office. You go just. Has It playing on background. You're like So it's so it's so low quality it can be the Yanni of the elevator. It's your music. Yeah or the lobby knowing Yanni Song. Ooh I've got them all what what actually played violin and a lot of weddings and wedding. Yeah so sadly played very well. Paid lawyer fifty weddings. I mean but I've been doing it since I was a kid like my sister and I would you know every other weekend would play at weddings and make some money Up Yeah Pre bar and I've had a couple of themed weddings. That have had a plan. One of them was like all these songs. One was Was Our hero songs. But what does it mean to play songs from Guitar Hero? One because that was how this couple met met playing guitar hero. I don't like that well. I don't like that story I don't like it just like I don't like it when I don't like it. When people they get cute with their wedding like we lost our so they dress up like shoebox zoo or like we are indeed so they wear converse all stars like this is the one opportunity where you have to beat. Follow the tradition class it up glassy meeting meeting on Guitar Hero. It's no pride and prejudice for the ages. I mean no one was like Oh amazing I look back fondly. Franz Ferdinand no not great i. You know what's crazy what? When was the last time we did thirty dollars off the last time we did thirty dollars off? Gosh I don't know of course. Like students veterans. Get it now. Everyone gets thirty dollars. Offset He was reminded. Because when you were talking about where you know all the different folks were having to deal with the media and whether they can trust these things and how this platform goes around yeah only way it happens as Mug club and this and that was the only way we had it back. Then thank you so so much. Join Again. We're doing this because this is how we can give back. We have decided to take an acceptable risk. And everyone. Here's quarantine just at the office and just at home washing your hands. Hand sanitizer everywhere. Though I'm going to be honest I'm not really at none of us here at significant risk. So we're not It's not exactly kamikaze Pearl Harbor. Like going out nerve shield and now I mean he might but the point is not that big a deal and we figured we could serve you more in a lot of people out there. We know that we noticed. More people are watching in the morning to evening shows in the morning. Because you get up. You weren't necessarily going to work and people that are listening to the show at home and so we thought okay three times a week. Let's do this where we interact with folks and I don't know if we have the chat the blaze by the way for people who are who are looking to use it go to blaze dot com slash. Tv's that plays DOT COM. You can chat. They're the only issue we tried to get this up and running immediately. You can't put in your user name yet so in your comment just put your name and colon and that should be fixed here within the next two weeks because we wanted to make sure that we have the chat out there. We don't WANNA do superjet on Youtube. Because not only do they not pay us but then they can spy on us so we want you in the doing that talking to people in some interesting quite often. Do you want some inside baseball before over the last story of the day of meat. Did I ever tell you the story about when I went into a meeting? Msnbc NO so okay. Can I I can talk about this now? Radic and tighter okay with Fox News for four and a half four and a half years. Okay and what happened was initially. My contract was like six months for a couple of those every six months every six months every six months and I found out would do this a lot of the contributors by young. I mean I was twenty. Maybe it was twenty one and the only the guy who was my age was Peter. Doocy Steve Doocy son who basically showed up drunk all the time to do some appraising. It'd be like Hey Steve doocy. P P ducey Steve doocy son. What's what's going to be going out there on the street back off you send your own guy like that's a horrible report. I DAD HOSTS KNOWING. Okay all right so. I was very young outside of him. My point is I you know. I don't really think he counts. And then every six months we'd have to sit down from renewal and sometimes it would lapse for like two weeks so at one period laps for two weeks now still appearing and I met with some executives at MSNBC. And I didn't really know it was meeting with them. I was meeting with someone who was doing things so I hope I'm fine here. It's not a violation of the contract. Lapsed I no interest in going. Msnbc BUT ALEX Wagner was there Alex Wagner so this isn't I have never use your name so now you have the inside scoop. She's there she does like the world's greatest circus. It's a show on showtime now or something. Okay very liberal. She was hosted Amisi. So I go in some executives are there and they were talking about Repair because this was back in the primary still rick. Perry and Mitt Romney and they said we heard that Rick Perry is gay. Do you think he's gay? I said I don't know what are you. What are you talking about. I don't know and they were going through. Says it's very high possibility. And everyone just Kinda got quiet and I well Hillary Clinton's a Dyke said why I said why have a source says that so. I'm going to say that. Yeah well what's your what's your source. That was very childish. This war ours is anonymous so immense us talking about Alex Wagner was there and she was talking about. She's like yeah. I studied at the SAR bone and speaks French. And she said so. I speak French and some international straight so I just said Oh leave. Concert is supposed to be about thoughtfulness per pound productive. How say New News All ma? Yes she responded for all their out she didn't. She didn't a word of French. She had no interest in me working at MSNBC but it was just remarkable to me superbowl and she was like she was pronouncing French words. The way someone who wasn't French wanted to sound would pronounce them. So we'll do this a little bit of inside baseball every now and then because hopefully it's not a legal violation of contract and I enjoyed my time at Fox. I didn't so much enjoyed that. Do Live to letters Sanjay Gupta and John King they all hate trump. Those are actually areas where we gotTA. It's an interesting perspective attention to not saying but they're GONNA be fine. They haven't had many cases yet. They're going to turn into big fires. Social Distance Fundamentally just a fundamental difference. John between what we were hearing just last week this idea that maybe those places could start to be. Open the disease charity. Just pay more attention to them. First of all John just practically speaking it's really about The the number of people per capita. That's good the token. That's good if people whenever you look at these maps look at per capita New York obviously much more densely populated some of these other areas but number two. We haven't been doing testing there yet. We really don't know how significant the problem is. The number should matter per capita. Well that's good news because per capita were doing far better than these other countries as far as death rate but we really don't have enough testing but on the second hour overall infection rate is higher than anywhere else because we have an obscene amount of testing right. Now we're testing a lot of people. Yeah and we're also lying about our testing. Let's be real clear about that. We're not but I do realize I. I thought last night I was going through some kind of getting ready for this and just kinda browse looking on a very social media but also reading new sites and not a single article talks about the lack of testing as it relates to other countries every single one of them at criticizing the United States. And there's not enough testing here. Three hundred plus million people. You should have more tests etc here. It's a it's a failure of the government of trump You know it's et Cetera. But not a single one of them is posting about other countries that have even worse systems. Like they don't have any tests at all but there were actually a few people on social media who are thought they just. They're just people I've either known from high school or other places who said look. I don't know what's going on but I can tell you this. I don't believe that there are these other countries that don't have that have zero numbers right. Now that are being reported by by the media's having zero or like single digit rays of infection not even death and yet we're saying we there's no number of testing that's happening there so you're telling me those are the numbers we should believe. Why the only number you can really trust is still can't trust the most accurate and we have as a total number of deaths not even the mortality rate as a percentage of the disease. Because we don't know how many people have it and now they're determining that more people have it who are. Acm dramatic which again you hear that. Okay so more people than we realise they're asymptomatic out and that means they can transmit it one second. Let's look at the bright side that means that the death rate is much lower. You guys were saying six percent five percent three percent it's well under one percent particularly for PM when you're under the age of eighty years old yeah and those those are the only things we have to compare it to. You can only compare it to how other countries are handling this exact thing like we can. We can look back and see other pandemics. How other presidents may have handled those we the only other people who are handling this one or the other countries around us. Yeah it depends on what you compare it to. And it's remarkable to me. When compared to South Korea South Korea is a country first off. They didn't trust the the Intel from China. They got on it really quickly. They actually did farm it out to a private testing by the way some of these tests that were created by private companies were offered to the CDC FDA but they weren't approved only the only the CDC's kits were approved by the FDA. The ones that go into your brain corona. I don't know but I think my brain has ordered hit a problem and so South Korea had privatized testing and the government basically docks their citizens. If you're willing to do that this is something we need to take into account. Should your data be given over to the government? And should they then have the right to post it publicly so people know where to avoid corona hotspots? Let's be really clear this does matter. It doesn't mean that you don't care about lives if you care about the lives of every American thereafter who basically dissolves all of their rights to a government because imagine this imagine if this were to happen under a government with like a twenty percent death rate which is what they always predicted when they were picking like a global pandemic intelligent. They were talking twenty thirty forty percent death rate. And you're talking about like a third of the world being infected so imagine if we were in an actual pandemic how quickly your rights would go and not just because the government violently seizing them. Donald trump really hasn't been doing that. It's because of the people demanding in the media demanding it if you don't demand that there is a federal lock down that puts all businesses out of work as we know them right now. You've for some reason. Don't care about the people who are being lost a corona which by the way if you calculate it all still less at this point then flu deaths. We need to take all of these things into account and by the way we don't have time for the commercials because we're running a little bit late black rifle coffee. They are still in business right now. So let's just but now it's cold because we've been sitting here for an hour and ten but the black rifle delicious is my favorite vintage roast. Flexible COFFEE DOT COM slash crowder entering the Promo Code crowder and you will get twenty percent off your first order We really appreciate it. You know who needs all that? It's the people who were stealing coffee from their office and they can't get it anymore. Just let black rifles industry. You're absolutely right easy. You could also trade trade it if the crap really goes down in. Trade traded ever clear and black rifle coffee. You're and guns so you can take other people's black rifle coffee and that's really what's most important again. The HASHTAG is going to have to get going here tonight. We do have a show. Which is we have life advice. Meat SEGMENT IS GONNA be going up tonight tomorrow. We have razor fist on the show. Just like a Thursday show and the Promo Code is quarantined. You get thirty dollars off all of this of course is going to be provided to you. in front of the paywall for For the month of April it's Club quarantine month and check out. Crtv bit. Subscribe there because there might be some exclusive content. We really do appreciate it and of course my club. People have already joined the one to make this possible. Let's get to the last story right now because nothing's been changing in the news. They've been complaining about President. Trump's really bad job. This is what they're trying to run with so I think we have a clip right now about Pelosi pudding. Donald Trump on blast if you look at the headlines over there at Huffington Post Salon all know old man in the world is really he has to deal with John. King doing a skype hit with female skeletal. Or He's wearing his boots greenest. Kobe's aren't a sponsor yet. Let's row clip three. Are you saying that that his downplaying ultimately cost American lives? Yes I am. I'm saying that because when he made the other day when he was signing the bill he said just think twenty days ago. Everything was great. No everything wasn't great. We had nearly five hundred cases and seventeen deaths already and in that twenty days. Because we weren't prepared we now have two thousand one hundred thousand cases this matters because the content everything wasn't okay. We had five hundred cases and seventeen deaths. I don't know the source in front of me but I'm pretty sure that's fewer deaths than people from toasters in that period of time where people's joked on toast. The mobile choked on to us by the sponsor is the threat. Darkening machine read darkening your bread dragging box. A. S. T. Dot com twenty percents off entered the pro-moscow toast. The reason why most people looked at that okay. A couple of hundred infected seventeen deaths. That's really not serious because statistically it's really not at that point and that's why it was the left it was people like you. Pelosi and people in New York who were saying that it wasn't a big deal and actually discouraged people from actively leaving because they thought there was a threat pose. If you don't believe me. Here's a clip. For important thing for New Yorkers to know is that in the city currently their risk is low in our city preparedness is high and so we know that this virus can be transmitted from one individual to another. But that it's typically people who live together that there's no risk at this point in time. We're always learning more about having it be transmitted in casual contact The gray haired Chelsea worked better. I just feel like that information was wrong. Yes Oh cam I just pulled up my earphones. No wait now I can hear there. You go live just wiggled. Come this matters because the World Health Organization downplayed at taking advice from China early on saying that there was no evidence I think we have these overlays of human contact and the recommended against travel restrictions in January. Here's another fast fact during that period. Donald trump finished creating a Chinese virus task force January nineteenth less than a week after the World Health Organization said there was no evidence of human to human transmission then he banned trump a trump banned travel to China. This is important to note Which Biden accused him of being xenophobic for doing clip five? This is no time for Donald Trump's record of hysteria xenophobia hysterical xenophobia. Thanks I don't really. I don't know what xenophobia means From what I understand the fear of everything fear of anything. That's different not familiar. Yes that's And I think that everybody has a certain level of xenophobia than if you're talking about being introduced to something new in other words. People are cautious. No matter what it is if you're walking on new ground in the they're going to be a bear trap I have no idea now. I always look for bear traps because walgreens get caught in them and then they chew off their own leg and they chase down the person who laid the bear trap because they tracked down the set and they're gonNA short story about it in grade school. I failed miserably mainly because they just ripped off Jurassic Park and replace the village with ring. The point is checked. Prepare traps concern. That's great concern please and don't plagiarize Steven Spielberg. If you're in school they catch onto that sort of ladies and gentleman this whole corona virus. Just a cover up for the bear trail to cover up for bear area. Big Bear Trap. You can get an arts. Right isn't commercial and confuse it with Gander Mountain Gander Mountain as the outdoor when the point is if you need a bear trap. There's a way to find it on the dark web or you can walk. Join these hardware. You can also find me. Don't really need the dark web or a VPN but as hardware so yeah. There are multiple cat. This is remarkable to me. Donald trump cut down travel to China. Right put a ban in place which they accuse him of being racist. Doing this was keeping mind at a time in the World Health Organization. Who by the way when they had the conversations excluded Taiwan which to me is very telling? Did you see that video of a World Health Organization the representative there? He was being interviewed on skype and he just acted like he didn't hear the question. Regarding Taiwan is planning we can bring it up. We can bring it up tonight and said I don. I didn't hear you cut out. She said well. Let me ask you again. He said No. Let's move onto the next question. Wow Wow so this idea that the World Health Organization by the way that these these sort of international governmental bodies have no bias is completely untrue because they were saying there was no risk at this point. Donald Trump said you know what I think. There's some risk we're going to have a task force. We're going to ban travel to China's. No no there's no risk and then Joe Biden said. Hey that's racist and now they're blaming him for not having done enough and that is probably why our last fastback tear. Donald Trump is gaining and actually eclipsing Joe Biden due to the crisis. More people approve of president. Trump's handling of the crisis than ever before and Joe Biden is not doing so well and I don't mean that he's not just doing well in the polls I mean he's not doing well in corona should be the least of his worries. He should be concerned about that about that. Cranial microbe that was at cat. P Your Cat poop in Brazil next people really aggressive soccer players whatever's happening there there's something short-circuiting and Biden's brain. It's really hard for the guy. All he has is challenging people to push ups but it's the states so far away from them right now no one to challenge and he doesn't any can't do push-ups on the ground because then he has a problem with the contact. It's terrible it's also can't do push ups because he's incredibly weak. It's hard for. He's he would actually probably fare more poorly than women at PT. In the Marines. At this point. Are you looking over there? Do we have a are. We bringing anything that we have that clip of this person avoiding the question. Yes we do. This is representative of the World Health Organization again. Not Respect. But you and I. We've talked about Taiwan Taiwan kind of been left out in the cold here And it's relevant. Here's the World Health Organization. I don't remember his name representative playing it off like he didn't hear the question old. Consider pylons membership was it. I couldn't hear your question. Let me let me repeat the question to another one that right. I'm actually curious on talking about Taiwan as well on Taiwan's case any closes it. Wow when you can keep in mind. I don't think this is. I don't think this is a conspiracy theory at this point where you say. China has not been the Chinese government. They've not been honest or forthright about what's been happening with. The Corona and the World Health Organization has not treated all nations equally. They've been carrying the water of the Chinese government that the Chinese people. I don't know why the Taiwanese couldn't have. Does that make you might know more about that? Doesn't seem like a Taiwanese should at least be involved with the the big deal the nutshell is. China doesn't recognize Taiwan as a separate nation that recognizes it only as a rogue state that is part of China so any national or international organization that recognizes Taiwan instantly goes on the China shitless right and and they just say look. If you recognize Taiwan as its own country you're dead DOS and so the. Who is an international organization that receives support from another number of countries and of of the big five China's one of them and so when China says? Hey we're going to stop cooperating with you or funding you or whatever it may be who knows what these conversations are like but we do know what it could be like because it's the same public conversation that China has all the time if you recognize. Taiwan. You're dead to us so we know what's happening here. And that reporter had an opportunity to ask so what set up speaking. She's really get the opportunity to write. I mean set aside our political differences china-taiwan in this pandemic. Are we going to care about Taiwan and somebody was going through a tunnel with skype around relevant? Because of the way the government would be The government would be handling it would be operating they would be operating autonomously from China. Certainly how they're dealing with this. Yes in their country will they would be operating autonomously they would be getting support from a lot of their own supporters which includes the United States. Right they have different government. But if you think about the places that are highly risk were all concerned about Korea because it's so connected there to China just across in on another peninsula Taiwan in China the number of flights between those two countries. I don't know what they are but the amount of travel writer indirectly in that hemisphere that includes Taiwan is extraordinary. So when you think about a place that's going to need support and certainly wants to know. Does it have the support of the World Health Organization and they can't even get an answer. Yeah it's a big concern and keep in mind the World Health Organization. This is the organization that went with these studies. Right these projections. If you look at their twenty look at their social media that two point five million Americans would die? The idea that the Chinese government did great work and everything that they could to try and contain this virus. I don't know if they re tweeted it but certainly the Chinese government did their foreign minister repeatedly that this was actually a virus created by the American soldiers by the way and people were responding when Donald Trump responded in kind calling it the Chinese virus. Why does it matter because they do not get to rewrite history again aiming at the Chinese government the World Health Organization? If you look at the timeline all of the information that has been fed to the international community from China World Health has echoed it. Almost exactly to a t and then when questioned about Taiwan again he was an ally the United States supports them. We recognize them. I believe we certainly understand that. They are officially recognize him as a country that you can say some capacities yes? It's a complicated issue. But they operate autonomously and a lot of ways in a way that we would actually Be Required to provide them with some kind of aid and we do. They cannot even answer the question. That should tell you how terrified they are. And how beholden to the people of China but to the government of China that they actually are and keep in mind this is the same organization that ranked the United States. I believe thirty six in international healthcare right next to Slovenia and Columbia so do they have a vested interest in playing down success of the United States and do they have a vested interest in trying to pair it the messages coming from the Chinese government. They certainly have done that. They've done that thus far consistently and it's something that we need to be concerned with especially if we are talking about shutting down the American economy and by proxy the global economy as the result of this information which is by and large being provided to us by the World Health Care Organization following the money following relationships. It does matter and if if we leave you with nothing else right now we will see you tonight at nine pm Eastern. It is this that I understand. People care on all different says that people care. They don't want their grandparents that I neither do. They don't want people who are at risk die neither do I and people on the other side. Also care when they say. I don't want every friend. I know to be unemployed or small business that I know to go under sure. The big boys may survive because the never ending supply of corporate bailouts. But guess what a lot of small businesses will shutter their doors forever more. There is a balance to be had here and I think the numbers do matter especially the source of those numbers more talk about the world healthcare organization the numbers matter for us to balance the risk reward ratio. It doesn't mean that you don't care about any lives lost if you want to prevent damage going forward as effectively as possible. Both healthwise and economically. This has been a good morning mug club. We really appreciate you being with us. We'll see you again every night through Thursday nine PM Eastern Emily back here Wednesday morning. Good Morning Club at ten PM ten. Am He's a pep pep fight?

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72 - French GP & Austrian GP Prerace 2019

"ZD hagen. Sharon. And welcome to shift have won a pod race cars. Yes, is, is all German, you know, from Stein, Danny. Yes. Yes, it as you know what y'all straw. I know is from quake as well. What all of us that is German for please. Respect the rules, which is something I think. A lot of German speaking, people would say and a lot of people who work in formula, the one management would say, we will get to why later in the race. But first Rob's acne how're you doing? Oh, not too bad. I think I'm probably going to be the happiest about this race because, you know, because I know what I'm getting. I mean for once you guys called it that this was going to be a pouring race. Unfortunately, tragically we were completely on the Mark. But I mean even even so gave us some stuff to talk about. So I'm kind of excited to get into it. I think again, for covering for me while I was out. And, and thanks for putting net patriot video together. That was really fun. Oh, yeah. I was I was supposed to go. Yeah. I we don't try to patriots stuff too much. But I cannot recommend people watch this video anymore. It's it has higher production values than I think any of us were expecting. Thanks to Jerry for filming it. Yeah. The beers were very interesting. Just Donnie Ricardo is providing entertainment off the track on the track. And we love him for it. Yeah. Thanks again. Jeremy for helping us record that. And the podcast, it wasn't until I had another person that was not us in the room that I realized how weird. Like we have so many voices and rituals that we do that he was probably really baffled by it. But thanks to thanks to Jeremy. So you can bafflement you guys want to get into the undo qualifying I share. It's all fuck at Hayes right now if I'm completely honest, I just watched it. So. Actually, before we get into can I ask you, did you did you have an idea of wash the race was going to be like, like before you wash the Vaud? How'd you hard like social media scuttled? Okay. You're okay. I mean I made it easy, but I knew what was going to happen is going to be a race around tarmac. But. You know, that's what that's what it seems like the French GP is we've only had a sample size of two in the modern era, I guess, but no one, I don't think was ever pumped on this circuit. They're all to buzzed on blue coast to care. That's trick. Yeah Jeevan I think was pumped to get into q three he out qualified. His teammate Kimi Reichen who ended up twelve. And then kind of a weird moment for federal he claimed he missed an up shift on his first in Q three, head to abort was he saying he missed one or was he saying the NGO box missed one, right? Travel, skipped a gear something. Which is like again, we're seeing him leave. It really really close for qualifying session. And he says on the last lap. This from race fans dot net. I don't know. I just couldn't feel the same car that I had and other parts of qualifying. So I'm not happy not being able to extract the maximum today. I think that's why we've also not qualified where we should be. He ended up seventh. Yeah. Which was exciting because he thought oak grace, that's what we want. We want to have one of the faster cars stuffed in the back there little bit. So we can get a bit a bit of competition. But overtaking. Yeah, limits Hamilton on pole thousands protest and second leclair's in third followed by for stopping and then Landau Norris and Carlos Sainz in fifth and sixth. The highest Clarin has started his twenty fourteen when they had button. And magnuson. Awesome stuff. Yeah. Really cool to see those guys up there. Especially fiddle in seventh, followed by Daniel Ricardo in Renos home race, also fellow Frenchman, Pierre ghastly, fellow, I guess, to Reynaud is that what I meant and Antonio juvenile. Rounding out the top ten Alex album. Should be noted very close to peer gasoline. Qualifying time in q two despite album being on the hard tire or being on the medium, tyre and gasoline being on the soft album to me, and we'll get into more of his antics during the race. He seems like he's for real more and more as the season goes on. I'm watching Alexander album, but yeah he qualified eleventh. You know doesn't seem they're for real who's stroll. So I have to call up this big. It was like genuinely this might have been the moment rack she started feel a little bad for the guy, right? Because so Omar south our kind of went out of his way principle of racing point. Yeah. He kind of went on his way not to point fingers or like get into why Sergio Perez like kick strolls ass in the same car like particularly this week. Why was stroll out in q one? When the car under pres- seemed pretty clearly capable of being a lot better than that. And SAF now, our was just kind of a and noncommittal about it and sort of indicated there may have been issues with the car straw was having trouble with the stroll may of like just had something he was dealing with on that last run. And so when the when the sky reporter interviews. Stroll. They ask about what, so what happened on your last run like SAF. Now, our Mench mentioned that you might have had some issues with, with the car and stroll just looks like blank faced and he's like, no, no issues, and so then. Well, so why didn't you come anywhere near what Peres did? And like instructors looked so defeated. And he was like. Check. Oh, just find time on this track. And I don't know where he's where he's finding it a meta. Look at what he's doing and. One. I don't know. It's brutal. This is this is one that whole, like entertain rivalry at its most excruciating to watch because first of all, the narrative is always that you're in dental cars. That's almost always false almost always, there's differentials. There's a lot of times, like component of variables between the two but nevertheless, it's always treated like your teammate and you are at least you can measure these two drivers, neatly one one against each other. And so that makes these moments when someone is just like routinely getting crushed by their teammate and increasingly has to explain it. Just all the more excruciating and the problem. With strolls answer. Is that what he was describing they're not knowing where his teammate is finding the time on the track? Like literally, having no clue where that is located. That's something you hear people. Quit racing. Talk about like the difference between a high-achieving professional race driver. And you know someone who tops out much at a much lower level or doesn't last. And you know, doesn't last the top a lot of times what you hear them describe like a Christian Horner in his interview on beyond the grid talks about the moment. He knew it was time to hang it up is he was watching his peers in. Open-wheel racing like taking lines at speeds that Horner did not comprehend. He could not could not fathom how they were doing it. And so this was kind of the week where I just began to feel a little bit awkward because imagine how much how much it must suck to have the means and opportunity to be promoted to point where your incompetence like really shines through, like most people never get there. Right. Like this is this is to agree kind of the curse of. You know the, the Carson privilege. Yeah. Like straw has gotten to this point where he's probably he probably is a great driver by, like, normal, everyday average person standards. But he's enough one and maybe shouldn't be. And now we are we clear what rob his dad owns. The team had us, he can act. He can't get he's stuck you save your dad. What do you save your dad? It's like it Dodd butchered apartment in the middle of New York. And it's like, but I want him. I want to move to New Jersey, I wanna move to, to look the penthouse central park, west is great. I love it. I was scared of heights. Yeah. Just maybe not. Maybe it's not me. I don't know how you say, like you know that distrust, f one team that I sort of wanted you to buy. So I could continue trying to be race car driver. I appreciate the gesture. But did you keep the receipt? Also the commentator keeps calling it by the old name, so maybe we should just get rid of it. Anyway. What is it? He said on the opening lab. Crofty calls it force India, and then Brundle immediately corrects him racing point as they call it now very forgetful. It must be said. Yeah, it was pretty funny. I will say just regarding the Q three performances in battles defense. Two things one is that Q three short like genuinely if one thing goes wrong on that. I run you have to make the next one stack. Right. Like calling in with like three and a half minutes, left or something, right? When he talks themselves. Yeah. You don't get a lot of time, and then the other thing that appeared to happen as cute cute cute, you died off in Q, three began and continued, the wind shifted and picked up. And if there's one thing I think we can probably safely say, at this point, that Ferrari, seems more skittish with regard to aero than other cars on the grid. So like it was an Orion. Yes. So it wasn't underwhelming performance from from sub. But I think this was you saw how much. Valteris pace fell off, as well once the wind shifted like if you didn't hit that first window to, to do well, on, on the track it was going to be very hard to do well, and the final like couple minutes of youth. Ray window good. Pawn. Window. Yeah. You got the punt. Sure was okay. I saw the wink, give me ragging an starting twelfth. By Nico Berg Sergio Perez, Kevin Magnusson and fifteenth Roman grow. John in sixteenth Haas, boys, not doing great around the French circuit gets worse land stroll, and seventeenth Kabila in eighteenth, and the danika feet, and George Russell or nineteenth and twentieth after both got a penalties for power unit element changes although Russell, I think did qualify behind. Kabila. Anyway. Did he okay? Thank you had a four ten or something. Alrighty. Well, should we take it to the race? Then are do want to point out that the commentators are saying that Ricardo Reynold brought some upgrades. The called Ricardo's car. A new spec in Holcomb Burg's like spec one a. And also, it was great to see Landau Norris dancing in his car while waiting for the, the rates to start. Did you see that? Yeah. Although he didn't have he didn't have exactly the the best opening turn so maybe wouldn't have been dancing if you do v it's pretty cool. Yeah he was pretty happy on Twitter. He also. I sent him a gift and he likes us. Made me feel like I've been I've been seen by San pie. Also everyone note that before the car's riven running the tracks temperature was fifty seven celsius lie. This may have been a boring race. But from the first, it seemed like just an awful race to be enough. One driver in like a lot of times boy, that seems like the life facing down the like what was a fifty seven laps. Paul Ricard with the surface. Temperature Fifty-seven see and like a hundred and twenty seven Fahrenheit. Yeah. Yeah. It just seemed it just seemed rough, especially Johnnie record or if you're just one of those teams can't make the tires work, right? I mentioned Donnie because his water bottle was broken. I think for the entire race. Oh, yeah. They day radio one stage, and said, make sure you drink. And he was like, Kat. It's not working. That happened to somebody. It was last year. No signs. And then Marcus Ericsson was like, yeah, I never use a water bottle. Everyone was like, whoa. Iceman. Yeah. Yeah. The star, Danny. Yeah. Sure. I mean, when they got off the line, it all it looks like they were like six or seven of breasts at one St. you could see for stop and taking a crazy. I mean everyone had good starts first of all, but it looked like for stopping who's taking this crazy ad sideline. And what we couldn't see in the background was a horrific star from Alexander album, who slipped from eleven to sixteen almost immediately. And then I mean, the front four kind of, like we're all comfortable enough in physician entering, I, turn landowners, slipped back, Carla signs bondage, to get ready. Item for stop and was kind of it was one of those situations where like car under braking, kind of slow down the car behind him, and allowed Carson's unit to get the jump on, on onerous. But yeah, it was. They were all clean the whole way through the only real incident. Happened on the first lap except for albums really bad. Start was Sergio Perez who did a bit of a robot grow, John, and I mean, we'll probably dive into. But I felt like he was hard done by at the stars. Although I kind of get it. I'm not really sure how do you how do you feel about this? He basically went off the track. He went around the scape road around the baller. I just like got really tight in turn three and it's a that is a right right onto so right hander, and so you can bail in this track is all run off. So it's fine. You can bail an and cut that corner but you've got to rejoin the track after a baller. Right. And it's a pretty wides escape wrote. Well, I guess it's not really an escape road. It's not like months, but it's like it's a, you know, the bottom, where it is pretty far away. It's up on, like I think the packs of the two corners later, and I guess, during race pace it would have been fine. But that the issue, I guess is that I'm not far slop, they're all little bit heavier. They're all Buxton together. They're not really going as fast as they would be in race pace. So by the time he actually went around the Bollard he had gotten an advantage because his speed was higher and the distance traveled was higher. So when he entered, it's kind of like those situations where you drive off the. Race line a little bit. And you come back on. And if you've gotten poss- somebody, you have to give position back that's kind of I guess what happens. He didn't give the position back jump to cars. I think. Yeah, yeah. So he hit the advantage. You got was. You know, it felt like the stewards were penalizing the sort of the result. Not the act that like he had done what he was supposed to do. But ultimately, it was an unfair thing that happens, so they had to penalize force, but it kinda sucked. It's like, oh well, you know, surely, there should be a better way of having the, the rules in that case. But I guess you really you know, be comedy chain rose after. What do you think? Rob. So for me like okay for one thing, it does drive me a little bit Batty listening to commentators turn into like small government, like libertarians, like every single race about just let us have some proper racing mate, like, we, we can lay off the top gear. Cornelius, just a little bit to me. Didn't seem that, that complicated. So there are guidelines drivers, every course about procedures and where you can go off, and where you can rejoin those don't supersede the rule that you can't improve your position by going off the track this notion that, oh, he was told to use this use this path if you go off here, and so therefore it should have been fine. If came out ahead of two cars behind when he went off that isn't that actually isn't complicated. That's because he's followed. One rule does not absolve him from breaking right? Right. And the other thing is, I think culpable noted this. He didn't really have to go off there right now. Yeah, no, it may have been a smart defensive move, right? Like one of the things one is getting to Harry in a corner. It is probably smart. You can't recover from a busted up car. So probably smart move to just exit out and go around, but the notion that, you know, he like this isn't like a situation where you could argue that the car was basically only semi under control during the critical juncture, and therefore he had to take that line that doesn't appear to have been the case here. So, I think in terms of like what was enforced what was what was judged here. I think that makes perfect sense. I don't think it's bad ruling. The problem is. The rule suck the rule suck especially at tracks like this. Like an I don't wanna be we talked about you, you even mentioned this last week, you said that there's gonna that there could very well be a situation where somebody gains, an advantage, one of these turns, and we probably need to maybe embrace that, right? Like like embrace the. Sort of robot to Indiana Indy. Allston. Exactly. There's look there's the tiny Paul Ricard circuit that we've got. But then there's the Paul Ricard circuit that we have in our dreams where like it's got a who'll racing stripes, all over it, and, like some parts of the track like have wild and crazy bumps like men. What could be more super Nintendo than you bits? Wait a second. Rob doesn't like a third of this track sprinklers on an already. I mean that was so amazed. They we're talking about says we could do. We could do it all. Like we create a speed boost zone, like and formula. But I do think attack mode. Yeah, there's there's just a problem here where. If they're been exciting action elsewhere in this race. We probably be like, I'll yet good that they were, they were keeping things fair. This circuit doesn't let you race like that, like, this is if you want to overtake somebody at the circuit just the way it's laid out, it appears that you basically have to go you have to exceed track limits in a modern, f one car, you can't you, you basically can't legally pass somebody at the circuit unless you have a massive performance advantage. And so we've got these rules that basically mandate that anytime. Somebody pushes the limits and explores the limits of their car or the limits of the track. And they push beyond those a little bit chances are really heavy penalty is going to come down on them. And therefore, you get the sort of processional race that, that we ended up getting that appears to be a correct interpretation of the rules. It's not complicated. But either the rules are screwed up. Or F one has a massive problem with venues, it's electing, I haven't been watching racing enough to know the answer to this. But a lot of people were dredging up, f one's own tweet about the battle that flee Massa and Robert Kabila had Fuji two thousand eight, and I will link it in the show notes. But it's basically those two guys racing around cutting corners all over the place and just trying to get one up on each other and it's like held is one of these fantastic moments of that season, the modern era, we're the rules, the same and the decision was made to be lenient on them or, and have now we decided, you know what we had these rules here. We should probably enforce them or were the rules, themselves different. Casting my mind back on my be this completely wrong. But I feel like there's a pretty strong connection between the sort of surfaces. They had like the rumble strips of old on the corner. The apex is and stuff that they had in the past which were really rough on modern suspensions and the sort of reinforcement of this four wheels off the track thing in my head. That's, that's where a lot of came from. But I could be I could be misremembered al-sabil like the mid to late two thousand series. The formula rules were bullshit back then likely gen- genuinely Castro mind back to that era to me, it always felt like -ficiating was very political and very much a judgment call that very week by week and who was your, you know who were the drivers stewards that were working the race that weekend, which I think goes back to the conversation, we had, you know, when we're all together talk. About Canada, right. This, this idea that we've got McClair in the roles there's less ambiguity, about the rule appears to be, you know, this for one person and something else for someone in a dental situation, we are getting fairly consistent rulings. Now. Being forced. Yeah. This, this is like a very interesting mirror with what's going on with the World Cup at the moment where the amount of I think we're in the quarterfinals now the women's World Cup in France, where there are an astonishing amount of game winning or losing decisions based off of VR, which is the replay system, especially in relation to hand bowls and penalties or retaking penalties because goalkeepers have come off the line stuff that, like would have not been noticed in the past is now getting like targeted, and it's, it's they're making massive. They're winning and losing games off of this in a way that like is the way we wanted us because it's a fair equitable, and the, the lines are very clear kind of way, but also kind of fucking sucks, like it's taken some of the, you know, I don't know the the, the human. Element is kind of lost a little in the paperwork. Yeah. I don't know it, it doesn't help that both of these races. I think I mean they both kind of came down to or the most interesting elements of them came down to, you know, people going off the track. And we had it in the first lap here and we had on the last lap two. Well let's let's keep chugging through these laps than laugh five. Russell in Cabeza had an ice battle Russell heaven to go off track a little bit and takes out of breaking marker fucking. I love that. You're next highlight is the bottle for last place. Actually. I guess they were you know, in the mix of bit more there. And the next note, I have is Renos space helmets in their pit lane. Their pit guys are wearing these amazing looking helmets that I've never noticed before they look at actually, you know what they look like they look like. On the death comet crew. Also, I will let me make a note to link that as well. I'll have to find some cool picture. No. Then we start getting some action from Ricardo. He passes ghastly for fifteenth after Ricardo tried the undercut didn't end up doing but was able to get him on the back straight, which really has just got put a big smile on that face passing a red bull, that the restaurant was not says. Well, it was the cars are overtaking the halfway down something else. The commentators pointed out. Jeez, he came from a long ways away. We should probably short in that DRA straight. Ricardo passes grow, John, then on left, twenty eight gross on then complains, about rejoining the track dangerously Jesus Christ. Yeah. He didn't Canada's all member with a Peres, turn one para para. I'm Peres complains every time something happens as well. So of course, this race had both of I wonder how many drivers also do that. And we just hear groans on the radio that was his, I think a few years ago like they just they just play my stuff more. Everyone says this well then do do a came in and just say weird thing every couple of laps. And then they'll use that instead say, make catchphrase. They secretary of erasers. I think the one, the quirk is that if you don't report it, the stewards are much less likely to look at it. But if you do than the have to, I think that's how it goes. It's like the police we don't call nine one one that don't come. It's not a crime, good move by Albain Jeevan Ozzy for sixteen place pretty cool. Lap thirty six when David cross brings up the sprinklers this race could do with something lively, like the sprinklers. They talk about Bernie Ecclestone's idea of creating a wet race and had this circus, I heard you mention that last episode. Ted grabs actually investigate. He asked someone where the controls are for the sprinklers like that's the race. We're having Ted Kravitz reporter is asking questions like novelty quest type of questions that he asks forty minutes into the second red flag. You know what I mean? Like when, when they're just patting for time, like that's what they're doing like during the race. Oh my God. Let forty three things start going sideways for Norris. He gets a radio message that his it is not allowed to use his DR button. Then he starts reporting really bad up shifts and Martin. Brundle surmises that this is because of a hydraulic issue, like he they disallowed him from using DRS, which a hydraulically controlled surface. Leading up shifts. Yeah. Like using the DRS more would, you know, less less than the pressure or would cause another problem and the US wouldn't close. I think was another show. Sure. The hydraulics if it's if it's if they're operating badly that it might you might open and close the. What interesting timing for that fall to appear as well? Like because remember prior to that north is driving. Really, really well and was pretty much crawling up the back of signs starting to get heated on the radio because he was convinced. He had more pace. It looked like he might. But again, like you really can't tell what relative paces when the, the person getting the benefit of the draft says they have more basement, he mates car. I feel I mean yeah they weren't racing like sad was ahead of Carlos Sainz junior. So like he was miles ahead as well. So the argument was that signs was basically just trying to make sure his tires and blow before the end of the rice again, who knows. But it was like, why, why does not like Narcisse going to chase Vattel down? So, like just yeah. I don't know. Like you said it was kind of a null. Point in the end because almost immediately, he had the problem, well initially, and that's the thing like when they first told him. Yeah, don't use Darus. This is why he asked. There's some interesting phrasing behind the question. He asked don't use it like it won't work or don't use it like a can't or something like I'm not allowed not allowed again and they're like confirmed. You are not allowed, which means I think he'd like he was in this head space where am I getting team mortared just like kind of quietly here and. Is actually in some ways like from the standpoint of team harmony. It's fortunate that there was that hydraulics issue because of just the setup to that moment. And then the way they initially made the objection known that, that he couldn't use duress. I think they'd sort of set up a little bit of doubt about whether or not he was being given clearance to race fairway. And then, of course, it turned into a nightmare drive for him, but a nightmare drive again. Like ends up improving your reputation as a driver. Right. Like who are you? When the car stops working and Norris kind of proved he still really solid driver even when, like power steering basically stop working. Yeah. And I think is engineer warned him of that, and the car will become unstable because of the differential, which I'm not really a car guy, technically, but my understanding is that. The differential trades power between the wheels. And so going around at turn if that's not working properly, you can start to get really squirrelly, and which is what happened with Nora. So he did a lot to keep this train behind him of Ricardo Reichen and hokum Berg Landau in seventh, and those are eight nine and ten behind him. That against having lap. Forty three forty six we message to that'll plan, f which was like, oh, jeez. Right. Press press, f to plan. Yeah. But then I think we learned that just stands for fastest lap. So he has enough of a gap to signs that he can pit and come back out still in fifth place. Let me get another good battle with album and his teammate Denny yet for fourteenth place. This was fun. Yeah. Donovan made it stick. Yeah. I think. You know, those guys are. Fun to watch this year. And I hope Terresa continues to kind of get better. Yeah. It'll be interesting to say, you know, Don is making a case for for, for coming back up to the big leagues like and gasoline ghastliest making a case for being sat down like the other thing is both those tarrosa drivers looked pretty solid. And as Lee just doesn't like he hasn't. He still looks like a taro, Sal. But he's in these in the red bull. He's in the red bull now. And that's a big problem. And I think he lost by this time in the rice. And then to the end he lost three places. He was a stand to eleventh. Forty seven points. More misery for Grosjean. He retires. The car. Yeah. I mean, he retires to car but also position was in by that stage. Probably back in the field. Yes, they were they were so they were so by behind him seventeenth. We talked about, like we talked about the I don't remember what it was. But there was that really good analysis, I think by Craig Scarborough over on race fans where why are they particularly hit hard by the Parrella tires this year? And it's that their cars, just not like just doesn't have good arrow. And so they don't have sustained high speeds in. You know, fast corners, and so their tires lose temperature like crazy. And I've never seen as vividly described is one like as vividly demonstrated at races. It was this week like it was one thing to know they're having these tire issues. It is another to watch a car that I think we all know to be like, kind of mediocre, but, like solidly middle of the pack and watch it just like plummet like a stone, as you know, the distance between when those tires were last under blankets and now continues to increase. Yeah, it's obsolete. And honest, like by the end of this rice, he got gobbled up by Antonio given as well. So, you know, the only thing separating him in the bottom was the the, to the to also runs or who's trade, you know, last place, every week so between Canada and this week like what an opposite nightmare for us. I wonder if the midseason break can't come soon enough. Well, things go from bad to worse for Landau Norris. Fifty three who wants to take us through this one. Yeah. The first lap. I'll do the last lap. Yeah. I mean he's swimming around by the there's a shot of Donnie reccomend up behind him. And Lonzo looks like he's. Yeah. It's ridiculous. He's just flopping all over the place at a car. He's obviously wrestling a really hard Ricardo. What I don't know five or six corners, left's he goes around him, and sort of he kind of throws it down late. Breaking makes the pass unfortunately overshoots a corner ends up on the blue and whites. And as he reenters, attrac- kind of the reverse of the vital Hamilton situation. He, he comes on gets a bit of understeer comes on basically pushes Norris off the racing line. And which slows him down, which means that, then the fast-approaching, Kimmy Reichen and. And Nicole comfort behind Ricardo overtake both of them Ricardo selling the fight lot Norris this stage for sins is like he hasn't got the pace to keep up with them anyway. So we just lost, like three places. But then Ricardo attempts to recap. Kimmy goes to the right of him where there's no space on the left. There was all the space in the world. Puts all four wheels up on the blue and white again off the track. And then I guess, under breaks him into that the tournament the end. So pretty soon afterwards, like everyone kind of thought, okay Ricard is gonna get app penalty. Like the something in there is getting indicated on and pretty soon afterwards, it was revealed that he, he got two penalties but it, it sucks, the most for Norris, because the first instance where he got pushed out like sunk him three places in a way, this, you know, he won't back after the rice because of Ricardo's penalty Bush, you know, it was just it was a torpedo into landowners, as rice on the last locked, which I feel like he was the one driver everyone was pulling for. And he was driver of the day as well. But yeah, it it just kind of sucked talked about him. Alternate take. Okay. It ruled it was also the best thing that happened in the rice, here on my favorite part is the fall between the two of them being so amicable, and this is the thing like two degree. This is. Kind of the victimless crime, right? Like there is an element of nobody's taking it that hard knows that pissed Norris was invalid Rable car. And if you look at like watching it live, I did make the note, it looked like looks if he. And then they call in for investigation, the show, the replays and to me, it's still looked if he and like, again the way they're interpreting and enforcing the rules right now. Pretty clearly something that in this rules regime, there operating right now you do take action on especially this week, given given the point that one just made. Imagine a pissed about a little bit for Cardo hadn't gotten a penalty. Yeah. I mean, this is the thing this is talking about having really tied your hands going into the French GP having just basically really put a finger on the scale of, of a race. You know in some ways having just done that. And then multiple less impactful breaches happen that now you have to go intervening in, but looking at it. It looks to me. It's not like to me, it does not look like Ricardo makes a decision to say, screw it. I'm going to cut the track from out advantage. It looks to me like he tries to go in late. Like always does he doesn't quite make it. He tries to follow the line of the corner. He doesn't cut the corner. He just goes all four wheels off. And then tries to rejoin it is, is an unsafe rejoining the track. Maybe except here's the thing it's all freaking race surface. Anyway, it's all tarmac. So it's not like you have an out of control car torpedoing onto the track like it would be if it was grass heat like he has next to north Norris knows he's there. So how is it really? When everyone knows the wheel wheel dual going on, and then the pass on Reichen again, clearly he's exceeding track limits. Except here's the thing. He's not exceeding them to get a better line on the upcoming corner act. Actually. He's in a less advantageous position for the corner that, that is upcoming. He's locked himself to the inside line. Does he may get a little elbows out with Kimmy? Yeah, probably. But I just look at it, and I'm thinking again, this is more kind of racing. I'd want to say this isn't this isn't bad? It's just a legal in the way we constructed the rules, and then the venues we operate, but I look at it, and I'm like that seems all right. Like if you. Racing feel good about yourself, right? Did you see the qualifying the video of the overtake that happens on the Nurburgring? I think on the North's life. It was like over the weekend or something. There was some there was some racing going on there. And there's an over think hop on one of the straits at a really long one whatever it's called. I forget always forget the name of that read it long straight on. I think that's where it was anyway where not open road racing driver overtakes an incredibly high speed goes to the left of the other car up on the grass overtakes them. And it's like, yeah, I feel like if you if you throw it down the sides, and you're on the non-optimal because I blue strive v stuff does have a bit of like robot it, you know, and you make it stick then, like, sure, like, you know, tiredly speed racer, but it's in, you know it's stretching the rules of the truck a little bit. And you know and. Getting a I to me, that's not like an unfair advantage. That's just like trying something ballsy on the last lap. So yeah, I'm with you on that one. I think I've just felt for Landau on the other one so much. And, and by the rule of the law that was a that was a you know, a penalty. But yeah, the, the second part of it that came eating I thought that kind of sucked. It's the same move that he did. The opening lap of stralia and if not little. You know, service road. It wouldn't his wing wouldn't have gotten eaten any would've made a place. But it's good to know that he trusts tarmac more than graphic or that he hasn't learned anything from that one. Yeah. Drains everywhere on this, although given the trackside sprinklers. Maybe there are totally. You can never tell we've had so many races this year. Same boku with whatever was drainpipe. We've had a lot of stuff this year. After the race for the one tweeted breaking race stewards confirm to five second penalties for Daniel Ricardo dropping him from seven to eleven Ricardo respond to this saying on Twitter. I'm threat of a Twitter rant, but I'll save it. Hope everyone was entertained to issue land Norris replied. I was entertained. Did you see the interview Ricardo or he know the French French interview or asked him the Roman grow? John was complaining that he was swimming all over the place in taking up too much of the track. And I don't remember part of the truck where they were together any stage. It's when Repetto overtook him in the corner and grow Sean complained. Think that's okay about. But regarded and remember he was like, I grow John remember, I don't know. Like fuck I guess. He's so like, you know, doesn't blase and kind of laughing about the whole thing. Yeah. And that's I think when he said, the, you know, at least, you know, I added a bit of spice to the racism thing. Yeah. Which he did. It's it's a shame. There's a different version F, one one, the rob is sort of, you know, shining a lens or shining light on our bring into focus that. Like Ricarda would be amazing us the one where you can bend the rules a little bit. You know what I mean? I think for me the thing I don't know is to what degree would running one that way, incredibly dangerous because the reason that indie can do that at, like, circuit of America's is because there are massive runoffs, and then you still have often grass and gravel before you reach tire barrier, right? Yeah. And you're not going to fast. Yeah. Exactly. Like, so probably can't play these kinds of games quite as much. But it does feel like. They've, you know, to the point about venues is that they've got a lot of they've got a lot of entries on the calendar where you can, you can run at one cars are around them. But can you race them against each other safely within track limits? And that that's harder. And there's more and more venues now feels like the answer's basically, not really. And if you get it wrong, and if you get it wrong, we're going to wrap your knuckles to the point where you would have been better off not attempting the move. Yeah. Well, there's also another battle going on the Clare closing on BOTAS, which I see you've ring linked here, rob, in the, the show notes that BOTAS was struggling with a engine misfire. Yeah. Posing laps which was kind of a big. Question Mark, because he had a massive lead on the Clare ever own is basically saying the running order from here to the end, and then he started completely unfolding like unraveling appeared and the Clare was just like taking a lot of second, a lap of him, you know, every every time around which NF one on this track is pretty massive. You're giving up a second lab. Something's, you're the release growing up or something badly wrong, or both and. It got pretty hairy. I would say for for toss like LeClair got with indie r s range of him and was in a position to maybe making the temple even into the last corner. Maybe had a shot at, you know getting down the inside. I think about has made a smart move, and that he aggressively like cut to the outside, and then really raked, the steering over to slash across the apex, which completely balked LeClair and forced him to like bail out on his dive down the inside. It was pretty exciting. I feel about lap the race gone on longer LeClair probably would have gotten him. But apparently the thing that was missing from what we what we knew at the time was that there was some kind of engine issue that bell, Terry was was dealing with, and that is probably what caused him to give up so much time, which is reassuring because I think early on. There was kind of narrative that men Boto. Defeated at this point if he's if he started just zone out that badly in second place behind Lois is he basically done and? That's possible. But I hope not and knowing that he was like, dealing with mechanical issue mixing feel a little bit better about where he's at. Agreed. But yeah Lewis Hamilton comes home in first place, Dr BOTAS, second trial, Eclair rounding out the podium behind them max for staffing enforce bashing Fedele and fifth. The got signs Reichen hokum Burg Norris. Ghastly after January cargoes tenth penalty gasoline, tenth final points paying position. Ricardo in eleventh followed by Peres. Stroll Viet and Albon in fifteenth. Then got Antonio G of Nazi Kevin Magnusson rub cubits George Russell and the not classified Roman grow John after he retired span federal fastest lap of the race last laugh the final app. Yes. Plan. F. Driver standings Lewis Hamilton, one hundred eighty seven points. Voucher boathouse one fifty one so that is a gap of what thirty six significant, especially federal in third place of with one hundred and eleven metre staff and just eleven points behind with one hundred Charlie Clarin fifth with eighty seven Pierre. Ghastly behind him with thirty seven. That is a big gap to for Stepien crow signs is in seventh with twenty six and we got Kimmy wreck in nineteen in eighth with nineteen Ricardo and hokum Berg teammates are tied with sixteen points in ninth place magazine and Landau Norris tied for eleventh with fourteen Peres has thirteen Viet in fourteenth place with ten points got album was seven stroll six grown with still two points. Maganga Antonio, Jeevan, see, George Russell and Bobby k with zero. Constructor wise. We're Sadie has three hundred thirty eight points for Ari with one hundred ninety eight red bulls got one thirty seven McLaren in a I don't wanna say solid because they're only eight points ahead of Reynaud, but they're in fourth place with forty points Reynolds, got thirty two racing point and Alfa Romeo are tied at nineteen points than just two points behind screw the Ray Toro Rosso with seventeen genus team have sixteen points, which tight illion says your. How did you go so wrong? Kalka comeback. Are this. This is a thing that I like I'm realizing that. He pitted from like ninth. Yeah. Because he qualified the head of K me. Right. And then he was pretty twentieth for a bet and finishes. Yeah, seventeenth. I in my lap quite figure out where that hit gone wrong. But it was. It was striking because he'd looked pretty good throughout the weekend. Right. Like one of the things about the Nazi has been that he was rusty coming into the season. But because he spent a year basically, on simulators, and then a real car for ages. Yeah. But it just seems weird to me that leads to my notes like 'cause I was I was noticing what like his Dole's down around, like sixteenth and such, but at no point, did I ever really write down how he ended up back there because I think it just I think he cycled in for a pit stop. Keeping the fitted so much earlier. And everyone else he was he pitted lap five. Yes. The window was like lack ten, so I'm not sure it was was this, a Q three issue with the tires, maybe that he was. He was on his maybe tires just Soft's by lap. Like seven or eight. It looks like and by the time everyone else pits. He only gets he only gets like, two locks or two places back. Three places about he's in. He's in seventeen when once most of the pack is pitted like in Latin nineteen so I guess is just pace was. Shot on those stint. Or maybe the, the stint the are the second stint. Yeah. It's such a just seems like a striking one man when you when you get these calls wrong. They really do go all the way wrong. It was disappointing says, gee of Nazi on the suburb, hyphen group dot com website to finish out of the points. But we were up against it when starting on the soft tyres it was the price to pay for a good performance on Saturday. But it affectively compromise my race before the start we pitted early as the soft didn't last. But in the end we had to make another stop in order to finish the race. I can still take some positives from strong qualifying. And of course it was important for the team to get back into the points. Inta. So did not just have enough fresh tyres ready something well, like so there was no way to make a there's no way to make to stop or optimal. I guess is the thinking here. And if he had to really push to get to qualify, the car up in tenth, if you had a really push hard to do that, and that required like burning through a set of soft s-. I could see that. I see that it's. Especially because if your car was already now, handling well on soft s- and then you start the race with a full load of fuel on the on your already on your chewed up sauce. I could see that being devastating. And then if everyone else everyone else is basically running softer mediums early on. And meanwhile you're on hards now even if you're in their sort of optimal performance window their fresh other people haven't really hit their cliff yet. So you're also giving up the whatever it is second. The lap between the hearts and the mediums. So, yeah, it just. It just seemed pretty disastrous for for, for g of the Nazi. Yeah, he looks like he's the only person who's one of two people started on, on, on the soft the other being Gaz Gazzali, which right? He he actually made his tires last a fairly long time. Yeah. So that's why he's winning formative, one point two five we'll get to that later. She would take into the news here. Sure. All right. Rob wanna kick it off shirt. So Patti low is this basically already done deal. But now it is official petty low will not be returning to Williams. His leave of absence has turned into a departure effective immediately. Low said after a period of careful reflection. I've reached the decision that will not return to work at Williams, shall I previous colleagues, the very best to me, the challenges ahead which I'm sure they will do, especially like the Williams fans who are so supportive. This is this is almost exactly the quote at the end of Jurassic Park where Dr grant says after careful consideration have decided not to endorse your park. Yeah. I don't know. It's. Time will tell I guess what is happening it Williams. I don't have the insight in into whether this is a good move, or not a lot of people who follow like reporters who follow the circuit. Do not think low was the problem. But again, on the other hand is a talked about, like there is kind of a tendency to go easy on the guy who's personable and acceptable to reporters. It's just it's really tough. Like ultimately the buck has to stop somewhere at Williams. He was Mercedes guy. Wasn't he for a long time? Patty low is not where he came from. Under braun. Or even under under wolf as well. I thought he came kind of directly from Mercedes years ago. Maybe I'm making that up. I think I can't remember Williams for six years, McLaren for fourteen which is kind of the stint. I remember Mercedes for four before. Yeah. Good pedigree. Yeah. Well, maybe they'll figure it out. Speaking of figuring things out. So last week Danny, we were trying to figure out what for our is new evidence was going to be to appeal the verdict of the stewards at Montreal. Do we get any clarity on what new evidence for our uncovered in the research? Yes, a similar to when you're having an argument on a message board and you post your favorite YouTube clip, as evidence Ferrari managed are submitted a an analytical sort of like off. Ed from current Shaan, doc as evidence. Which is. Which I, I must imagine a I, I think that this must be the first time this is ever happened. I haven't watched this video but I go to the reporting here from skysports dot com who are more than happy to report on this, considering it was their video of issues. It's skies f ones Crenshaw doc, on the narrative of twenty nineteen so far and his prize at Ferrari, using his analysis for their penalty charge. This is actually an actual full article the current John Carr's. A has written. Have you guys read that there's a quote here while I was, of course, flattered to hear that a team is big, and as great as Ferrari felt that my analysis was worth, including in their appeals submission? It also seemed confusing to me that they chose to do, so they were right to disregard this bit of analysis in the appeal because there's no way that a third parties opinion, especially someone who's working as a TV broadcaster would count, as factual evidence. I have like a like a dream that they took this information too harsh. And then the counter was the Jolyon Palmer analysis that's on the F one. Youtube channel which is fifty minutes of him saying that federal was wrong. Yeah, it kind of it's like this is completely bizarre. Can't believe that I am just looking forward to like when the FAA starts publishing, like Michael Massey, reacts videos to these things. But now it's. I. I think it's embarrassing. I think it's a best random. It's like Ferrari, are like this is. This is New Orleans Saints territory where you need to like get over thing and move on from it. Reverend Keith like telling the world in so many ways. How dirty think they done you? Like, like taping, a segment off Sky, Sports, and being, like I feel pretty pretty impressed with the F indi-, we've marshaled for our case and its crew Chand, who. Yeah. Is flattering. It's a coot like cool. You know they were like this is a really good argument. We couldn't have said it better ourselves. That's great except here's the problem. The FAA has like all the information they have all the telemetry, they know exactly what the steering angle was on the vehicle kroons not gonna have that. There's no now lists there is there is no world. It's going to be like, damn, we got owned by facts and reason. It's, it's completely bizarre. Likely, the, the stipulation of the very particular way they even did it because it wasn't just the because they left the appeal off this was like a different mechanism of the law that they were using the rules. And it was very clear that it was new evidence submitted. I never was only hetero, they have this new evidence. What do they have the FAA don't unless there's something wrong with the car or completely just flabbergasting? There's a great article where Lewis Hamilton basically said that once he heard what the evidence was. He was like, oh, okay, fine. That's ridiculous. Yeah. But honest, yeah, they need to they have just like all they're doing that was ruining their look like this. This is just silly at this stage and they just need to. I mean it's I think that's the last we're gonna hear this hopefully. Well, speaking of putting your impressions of things online, do you guys want to talk about at one? Twenty nineteen Danny. I know you've been playing a little bit of it. You have not had a single mid I have installed onto machines who have it. So I have launched it, but it was doing the PlayStation. Four thing of we've, you can race in Melbourne. But we're downloading the rest of the game. But yeah, I did a couple of races using my Logitech g twenty nine race wheel couple of initial impressions. It looks fantastic. The lighting on this one, especially on the nitrates, which I've seen in gameplay, not actually, in the in the stuff that I played is wonderful, but Melbourne looks absolutely great. The intro had like an interesting. It was they loved him my surname in the game, which I'm bummed about some slowed, Brian whenever cross these name pretty close. I guess. The setup was cooled. You could you know, they let you pick your driver's kind of look and stuff. And they also had a women drivers which I don't think that it last year I was kind of cool at f twos in it as well. Which I haven't had a chance ago of what that means f two is in it. Yeah, I guess I guess you'll just race on the tracks that I wish I wish I had access to more of a time we started. But I guess you'll just new trucks or anything so you can just use the cars. They have a bunch of Gaza cars, and there's something to twenty two different classic cars. I reckon out about a dozen the last one, and you can play today today is Tuesday that they were recording this, if you have the rivals edition, which is the one that comes with Senna unprocessed. They're like character skins and also their cars. I'm much. I think it might be the ninety two cars. Nightside two cars the hedgehog on the side. Oh my God. Really think that was ninety three gotta go fast last processing man, make F one foster. Yeah. I it seems rich with features in a way that some of those games in the past been a little bit Scott's. They're diving into the sports and multiplayer stuff. Pretty heavy to I've never been super into that. But it looks great it, it looks tastic in huddling was was was felts Thais felt like last year's maybe maybe bit better. There was some other stuff in there as well in relation to the tire wear. They you it was either based off track temp corrosion, or like both or neither or something and some extra features in there in relation to that. But yeah, I guess I'll have more impressions next week. But yeah, it's, it's edible for everyone else. I think it's everyone available all the other versions on Friday. So go pick it up there. It's also two months early. This is this. Usually, it doesn't come off to the summer break. So it's, it's pretty. Cool to have a nail. I imagined that them probably a bigger team. I know the development studio. And then I also think that they're probably going to be working on next gen stuff. Maybe so a way of just like getting this one done, and then focusing on extras but yeah. So far so far. Happy happy. Happy Doney, cool. Well does have anyone to take us to house, three ah Houston? I yeah. The threat to ring also known as the a one ring now, known as the red bull ring em. I'd love to say that we're going from one voting circus to an exciting one. I this isn't exactly this kind of suffer as a similar problem to, you know, these legacy tracks. Maybe the modern cars are not particularly Ceuta to we have had some moments here. Interesting ones, the first race that was ever in the area was in nineteen sixty four but it wasn't actually on the circuit. It wasn't built it was on an airstrip. That's behind it nineteen seventy it was when they. Grand or when they opened the track and had the first sort of F F, I a or I guess Formula one season race there. There's been some interesting moments in eighty two. There was a fantastic ending to the race where Ilia Angeles beat kick Rosberg by five one hundreds of a second, real sort of Dan to the wire one. This is where Nigel Mansell famously hit his head on the podium and then Murray Walker went. Oh, you looks looks like you hit your head and poke Tim, where he had hit his head on the bruise. You can imagine Mansell's reaction to that one. After nineteen eighty seven it was shortened and renamed the one ring. And then in twenty eleven the red bull bodice kind of rebuilt us because it was falling apart a little bit and renamed at the red bull ring, and this is also where Rubens Barrichello the famous team orders into Desmond to where he let Schumi go past him which kind of Ross T mortars into it was kind of, like the beginning of the end for team more does in that era Shabi say. The left an impression, at least from the people that I talked to left an impression in Brazil for. Rubens barrichello. When I was there for cloth map, I asked people like so f one and they were not. Really? But the I guess, the only things I know are Senna and Rubens is slow. Which is also why when the Fernando was fostered and stuff happened. It was particularly sensitive to Brazilian fans that, yeah, that moments cast a sort of a long shadow for the next next rest of that era. Anyway, it's a High Dam forest track tough to overtake on this one. It's three Dera Soanes added another one, I think it was last year. I want to say it's at it's pretty high above sea level at its peak at seven hundred eighty four meters above sea level, but seven twenty at its lowest Sadat, obviously has a little bit of an effect on on the aero on the engines as well. But it's a it's a top speed truck so we can imagine that the Mercedes are going to laugh their way through this one Ferrari as well. And the rebels you know, I guess we'll see what cartoons upper or if guys they can get a bit more speed on 'em. It's a kind of technical circus, lots of, you know, high speeds areas. And then very fast or very Thais breaking zones, and turn one is interesting enough. It's kind of like Austin flipped an uphill. Counry DC, the PECS Thais one, but it goes to the right rather than the left. It also has a weird little pit exit there, which kind of reminds me of the one on spa where you kind of go on one straight. And then before you hit a ruse you have another strikes, but the pit exit comes on the on the right there. And then I think this is where who was it? Who famously crushed? Exiting the pits. They, they did wheelspin and like just been dish. I think it was on this track that happens. I should have looked at it before. And turned three or four and five as kind of a nice Esa section that's downhill into the central arena of the track, which is kind of its most, I guess famous section if you're actually attending the race but it's generally a well-attended race. It's a it's a beautiful spot in Spielberg and Austria the race itself. Maybe not the most exciting to, to watch on television. We'll sort of have to see, but it's one that I've always wanted to go to because it kind of it feels like a much more compressed version of something like a spa where it's in a beautiful part of the world. It'd be fun to go there unto like good food, people at an ice sons, generally shining. But at unlike spa, which is to spread across half of the heart and this one is kind of like, in its own little pocketed valley and goes into itself. So, yeah, I imagine kind of like the French DP a fun one to go to good spectator experience, but it doesn't necessarily make for the best races here. Listen to look nicer on TV. Yeah. It's kind of I feel like it's a good TV track. I kind of feel sorry for the helicopter pilot on this one. I don't know how they ever did it just float in the middle because it's really like really falls in on itself in a way, those like kind of Bahrain does. But has it flows wider? This one is very you know, I don't know centralized, they'll figure it out. Yeah. I'm sure they know how to do that. For this race. We've got the hard see to the medium, see three and the soft C four. Plastique. Everyone's seems to be taking one or two hards. The variation is with the medium in the Soft's the Ferraris are taking four and five mediums in seven Soft's whereas the Mercedes guys are taking two and three mediums and nine soft. I think the only other yeah, Ilya team taken seven soft only is racing point, almost everyone else is taking nine of the sauce, with the exception of see McLaren's taken eight and so is for staffing. So. Weather wise. It looks to be just bombing on qualifying and race day. The let's see temp for qualifying is around seventy nine Fahrenheit, or twenty six celsius little hotter on race day which has a lot of impact when you're at outta to because the IRS a lot thinner. So eighty nine or thirty two on race day precipitation, very low zero and three percent respectively. And wins about eight nine miles an hour arm. Sorry, eight kilometers, an hour or five miles an hour on each day. So should be just fine. Maybe maybe a little warm for those tires. But yeah, maybe ceiling to France. Fantasy league standings. I like you read in the points from ten to one Danny. So I'm gonna do that for are shift f one league which you can join with the invite code in the show notes, although someone was mentioning on Twitter that there might be a problem with that. So I'm gonna look into that. So if you can't join stay tuned on the Twitter. Too many teams we got fourteen ninety five one thousand four hundred ninety five teams in this top ten are pointless racing force in tenth place, followed by speed beast and ninth eight is dragon ball GT seventh is boil to the future part, three six is fried. The tires gotten fifth-place mce F one, followed by fourth place, alpha emojis. Third-place resides all the way number two. The Hamiltons break the system and number one still solid first place steering wheel. Hey give it to me. Move come on. I did okay this week. I think I'm in, like four hundred and something place. Yeah, reichen. He was my turbo driver. Got me double points. So he got me forty four. Clara got me, thirty two pariahs and recent point not doing so hot. I wonder if might have to swap them out. I'm wrong six hundred fifty fourth. That's where I am. And I'm gonna look I came in my turbo spout. And LeClair guess finally got a podium for me. Which is good. But yeah, I guess I'd boat us probably did. Right. I hadn't does. Well. So my Kimmy points were lost with Landau. I'll, i'll. I'll, I'll land does a good get. He's probably not too expensive. Maybe now he's five point four, he's like, he's definitely better than his peers. Yeah, yeah. Well, should we take emails, rob? Do you have probably? Curious looks from rob. It was I was just reflecting that. Your methodology seem a little bit flawed in that you're looking at assets whose valuation has recently just spiked, and Ben like I should get in on that. And I I they must adjust it, we today. That's why I can't get rid of some of them. Yeah. That's of kinda kinda stuck with the team you have at this thing in a way you know what I mean because. Yeah. Yeah. Not many males this week TB h I think everyone kind of fell asleep. It was kind of like that race was the witches apple and we're all waiting for, for prince charming kiss. And I'm not sure if it's going to come in France. But thank you very much. Steve for sending in question about racing board games come up before. But I haven't since we've had rob on the show and also I think it's been a hot minute as well. So he said you folks. No, there are two racing tabletop games on. I'm Assan downforce on formula d wouldn't game runs in forty five minutes and another for an hour. Do you guys have any other like racing board game stuff that you're into at all? Have you played for me the de- before? Yeah, I came rules like that. It is an extremely good racing board game. It is also the only thing wrong with it is, they chose Monaco as their trapped. And so it posits this really fascinating like all. Turn it reality where Monaco is awesome. And like overtake. I just wanna just wanna push it like at like twice twice the normal rate of speed through rest cast. No, you can't do that in life. But through the magic of this game, you can the Dallas layabout formula d is. You can choose to take mechanical damage to salvage a like if you get unlucky with a with a dice roll so have you played this do you know how it works? Okay. So here's the cool thing, every gear has a different die associated with it. And so if you are in, like, fifth year, you're rolling d twenty like you use for dungeon dragons? Right. If you are in third gear you are rolling d ten or d eight type of thing rightly the damaged is using done dragons. And so, like, lower gear means, like obviously, you're going to be moving fewer spaces higher year. Means that you're you have a chance to really go. Lunging great distances down the track, which gets interesting because then you're thinking. You can run into a corner and higher year because chances are you'll get a better run going into the corner. But now you put yourself at risk of getting a ridiculously high dice roll. And now you've got a corner where you have to negotiate it. And you somehow got to move like twenty spaces despite the and basically, you do not have the tire wear to give up. So going into corner, too fast, you end up like you have to take damage points off your tires. I need you can also do something where if you've overcooked it on the straight, and yours lunging straight, too fast. And now you're coming up on the corner. What you can do is you can drop skip gear. You can go straight from, like, fifth down at third and damage your gearbox, and so like playing with the full rules in effect. It's this whole concept of trade offs of if you go free. Ridiculously fast lap, the first time around the tracks here pointing to lap race the second time around you don't have any more hit points to give up like basing now you have to be perfect. You can't you know, you basically take all you can out of the car. And so now you just have to play the dice and actually ends up feeling really race like in a way that I would not have expected from aboard game. I've mentioned this, when maybe once or twice I kick stars is back in, like, November of twenty sixteen and I got it finally, like maybe six weeks ago, and it's called Lakota. It's like a very, it's a much more basic ver- like version of what you were talking about. And it also takes place over the course of a season. So it's less about the particulars of like a turn, or whatever. And it's it's a card game like there are a little kind of like dinky race tracks. And the board is, is just like a like a circle like a like a track that way, but each hand you deal is a race and basically you you play with other people. It's kind of like a more simple rule sash you can play with, like family, and kids and stuff like that. I haven't actually when I ordered it. I remember I was like, you know, in a social situation where I could like play with people. And since then I moved to Marsland on how to kit, so I have not actually get people to get it a play this yet. So maybe we can do it at some states when we're in the same spot an investment in a gaming group though, that's true in like, once she's like not in a position where she'll choke on a die. I think we'll be there. She's only watched the race of me though. So this like formula day, that's like an ages eight and up game like. Is it formula day? Is that what you said earlier? Yeah. I think just because like it's a German game. And so like made its way over here through like euro game circles because that was generally adopted at first not racing fans. It was just people who were looking for, like worker placement and other types of, like math games, they sort of were saying they were sort of using the name. They'd heard it called in, like German circles. Right. Got it awesome. We got another Email here from Jack in Ohio, at Formula one point two five. So I mean, this has given me so much joy content. You so Jackson. I noticed in the episode after the Monaco grand prix you guys spent a bit of time talking about Formula one point five I'm hoping for Burke to pick up his third Joppa chip. Well, I just thought I'd send you guys a link to the growing one point. Two five community on reddish, so you can check it out. So of course, for those who need an update or refresh. One point forty one point five is essentially the formula season as if for our Mercedes on red bull. We're not Inish forty one point two five appears to be a version of the f one season where the only driver is peer. Gaselee. And the I think BA commitments to the best is, is incredible. So it's basically sending driver stunt things. There are videos, there's like a video of like, oh, here's the here's the highlights of the Canadian grump pres free practice and it's just like this truly Memed video where they've remixed the one that's on the F one channel. And it's on the only driver. That's going around the track Pierre Goslin and the rest of them will just hanging in the in the in the pits. It's, it's fantastic is one point four thousand members, you should all check it. Update. Dude Ricardo's penalty ghastly rises from I to first position in today's French krumrie, truly no one can stop this man. Boy. It's fantastic. Yeah. There's one here. It was the driver of the day. Yeah. Opinion driver rankings after eight races of the twenty nine hundred season. And here's a picture of peer GAAS. Oh, such as one PR Guiseley. Okay. There's one we're it has, like, here's the updated standings after France. And it's pure Gaza with two hundred eight points. Nowhere. Just he'll get the fastest lap to you most like the anyway. I'm math adds up. Which had fair to see actually gotten two of them this season. So at least, you know, at least that someone I cared but yeah, go check out four hundred one point five. It's form. Our slush formula digit one peo-. I n t twenty five checking it. Well, you can send all of those. Inciteful celebrates our way at shift one podcast at G L dot com. You can follow us next for me, though, one point one one five that how that works, one point one. Two one two five. Yeah. That's Robert Cabeza. Whenever. You can also falls on Twitter at shift if one podcast on that drew Scanlon, as at Danny Dwyer and at rob. Zach me that's enough around the world of the internet. She would take around the world of raising Danny. Let's ray. It's brown. The Scandal in the world of NASCAR scandal cars, you know, car, we got not only do the gander mountain. X xfinity series and the monster NASCAR Cup all race at the same speedway Chicagoland speedway. They're gonna rise up at the same time they're gonna race with the same name of the race but for the distance so and it's crazy because as we all know, we change recently to gander Ghanim out and trucks. But the sponsor awesome name, it has gander trucks will. But the sponsor for the race all three races. That's right. Camping world. We got the camping roadblocks to five. We've got the can't for for the gander mountain trucks. We got camping role to five the xfinity race. We got the Camping World three hundred. And for NASCAR we got the Camping World for one hundred one hundred more than the unity series. I it is that is like that. There are like things in life that I I'm just era tainted by one of them is a plastic bag full of hangers, like, clo-. It is not just make you feel sick just the idea of that. And this, this is this trying to explain to somebody why this is named that way. And why it's confusing to everyone is that one the other thing, I'm going to say that this is at least one hundred people are going to turn up to wrong race. There's no way that everyone's getting one free. Oh Camping World three. I thought it was the four hundred but I guess is the three. Yeah. Probably three hundred. We're going on Saturday. Because the cars are faster today. Complete faster. Yeah. That johnny. Yeah, right formula two will be supporting the one at the red bull ring the IMSA weathertech championship. Is that Watkins Glen, national for CEOs six hours of the Glenn? Modo GP is multi Asan, which is always a good time if you ask them super, if you watch one moti race make it this one. Although maybe that means it's a it's going to be boring one motored you has been pretty cool here. Super GT. I know you're gonna ask me the prefecture, Danny there, isn't one this week loss. Waas Thailand at the twang international circuit at gossiping chiming. 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Radio Free Cybertron 620  40 Year Old Gum is Worse

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Radio Free Cybertron 620 40 Year Old Gum is Worse

"This is Radio Free cyber with your host Brian Kilby, featuring Chris, Don, rob die-cast, John and Mel VAR. The latest transformer news reviews at more. Visit t- formers dot com. This is free. Cyber trod episode six twenty I'm Brian Kilby. Don't have a clever St. is there any significance to six twenty. Not that. I know. So we like with six six I opted for the marvel universe. You know, the main line but six six is also an alternate interpretation for the Mark of the beast. And I did not go there. But I did want to point out just for the people thought that I missed it six one six is also considered the Mark of the beast. So isn't six three six in there too. Or my Mr. member, I don't remember six three sixes. But I knew six one six six six or the two interpretation. So, but but remember Brian in Canada's called BC's? So, you know, the market the peace tease. Yes. Six six six. It'll be interesting. Yeah. We'll we'll have like I don't know what will change the colors red and black and everything it'd be awesome. If that coincided with how lean but it's not going to that was Don that was dyke. Cast broad. Thank Matt at something to. It's just us this week. Awesome ably. Yeah. Glad to be back. Everybody. It's been alone. Here. I forgot. It seems like. It's well when your retina is fifty percent detached and your rush to do cost Biddle Durham to get it reattached to happen. I woke up, and it was like that. My. I'm very near sighted and had a very high myopic score. So I was I was a high risk anyway due to my nearsightedness, the cataract surgery really didn't affect that any. But they said I wasn't a higher risk of anybody else. But I was permits the same as what my mom the shave Milos causing the high risk and I woke up one morning and having flashes of light and floating particles, which was basically blood in my ocular ocular fluids. And they said, yeah, your your retinas fifty percent detached you need to go do right away for surgery. So I had to be like Baptist or something Duke was the closest thing of to where where I am Baptist. Actually, be a further drive. Okay. And they they got me in at like seven thirty the next morning surgery. That's that's kind of how bad it was. And so I've been recovering these last couple of weeks up until late last. Week. I had disturbed the floor. Forty five minutes out of every hour because I've got a nitrous oxide bubble in my eye that holds the retina against the back of my and I have a buckle which is basically giant built around my holding this way so that way ever dealt with. There's no forces trying to pull the I apart while everything stitching itself back together addicts trying to like get your. I'd like suck in the nitric oxide. Nitrous oxide. No, no. But I can't go over two thousand feet or can or I'll go blind. Yeah. I've got a I've got a meddler bracelet. Basically. It's like if I go over two thousand feet, I wind up actually go I could go blind to that. I will begin. So I have to wear this the entire time where scouter say over six hundred over eight hundred though, you know, my girlfriend's parents live in west Fran. Yeah. And I can't even go visit them because they're far above sea level, and I could act civility. I'm safe. There's that. But yeah, I'm I missed everybody. Thank thank everybody on Twitter. Facebook all the messengers and stuff like that. Thank you everybody for your will wishes. Sorry, I wasn't. I'm still kind of out of it. Just from basically not being able to gain of for the last two and a half weeks is sitting and staring up the war. And when I walked anywhere I had to walk the floor, and my girlfriend hesitate my hand and guide me around objects because I literally could not look up until this past couple of weeks. She getting to that. Twenty five years from now. Yeah. But so yeah, I'm glad to be back. Thank you, all for everybody's warm thoughts. I really appreciate it. And just appreciate you keep me, and my until this crap is over with a medical work like necklace the button. No, no. This is the basically it says, you know, if if there's something wrong, you can't fly me to the hospital because it's not like you press it and you say fallen I can't get up. No. Unfortunately, again, if I had a match when I can go back and do master force. But I don't have. Okay done. Well, that's cool Chris's out this week. He sick. I don't think he's having to look down for forty five minutes. We just heard a thud sound that's dawn chugging down to leader. That was sorry. It's a Food Lion. Diet mountain lion. My diet mountain lion. Yes, I'm very well. Acquainted with the mountain lion. Kim's grandmother, that's all she buys. And I just I bring my own soft drinks when I do visit my mom's almond smash, but we can't find it up here anymore. Why I had eight five sit in my pocket. I had no one in my wallet about well. I can afford that eighty eighty five cents. Okay. Let's see here John's out as well. Saint John's probably working or is it moral come at eleven or is that last week, it probably doesn't matter. It could be this week as well. Yeah. I think Jason's busy working. So we just could just be that. We don't have anything to talk about. So everybody took the week off. Yeah. So actually funny enough Eric crown over and crippled. We're going to we thought Christopher was. I didn't actually didn't actually say, yes. I'll be there. He's playing mortal Kombat eleven yet. He is. I'm certainly is. So Well, I I haven't picked it up yet. So I did want you to video about a guy who build anarchy cabinet based on moral combat eleven graphics and everything. But yeah, I've heard it's very micro. Transaction. That's what we've heard and grind e. Yeah. Yeah. Sounds about right. Hey, let's get into it Ebadi's this week. Rob. I never start with y'all start with this week. I was supposed to get a non transformers related action figure mailed in from China and stead, I got some underwear. It is not even my size. So I am just waiting to hear back from EBay on. When I get my money back. They say you under wear. Yes. That that's interesting. Yeah. They they must have just put the shipping label on the wrong package. But yeah, that's what I got sit at the back. Wow. That's crazy. That's generally crazy. That's that's a new to me. Okay. I've I've always worried order something and get the wrong thing, I sold one EBay item once and I forgot to include an item like an accessory like I think it was hard head, and he was missing the guns. And you know, my face didn't include them, so. But that's like the worst thing has happened. I've never liked ship. Somebody tried to sell them like an organ figure in cinemalike. Some, you know, used us tubes a toothpaste. Yeah. So you're okay. Well, hopefully next week actually, not you're not going to get China. Tell us about your refund. Nice neck next week after you sent EBay the nice letter. So Don you've been on forever. I'm certain you have a million things. So you go ahead. Not not as much as you would think because of surgery Duke hospital in two hundred and forty are drops and things than incher. But yeah, yeah. Yeah. And those generics. Does generics. They rice at that. Your drops were basically, offense toys, Phoenix interesting. You phrase that dot cast, but we'll get there picked up a couple of off topic things. I have never played overwatch have no desire to play it. But not picked up the tracer figure when they showed up at target. That's a damn good looking figure for twenty bucks. I think look nice on my shelf. So when hand got it how often do you just buy something? Because you think looks nice not as often as you would think and how often is that a female action figure not as often as you think because they just don't make that many. Okay. I went ahead and decided to get doggie and Lord Zet from power engines, the new lightning collection from Hasbro mainly because it is nice looking figure again ant, man. Look like ant, man. No, no, doggie and said, okay, shadow ranger and. Dog eager. 'cause I mean Espy is one of one of my more light series. And get finally getting a doggie, Kruger is nice. You know, I'm just glad I. For the like everybody doesn't know what you're talking about. What is that arranger shadow ranger? Yeah. Doggie Kruger is the head of SPD's on earth. What does PD space patrol delta? Yep. So as picked up those two his defense, planetary police force earth defense worse than there the galaxy Rangers. But Mersa Fairburn talented interplanetary police. That was picked up the second sage sound way that I've seen the second. Did you pick the as well, no, I'm saying I saw the first one I was asking. But I couldn't buy it. Because it didn't scan me, and they didn't know the mice. Hey, what does your girlfriend think about Donna makes she loves it? I was gingerly curious about that. I was thinking it was see seat. She understands that. I'm a collector, and she understands that the cool thing is she loves she loves cheap asp bastard. And then I'm trying to I'm that I'm trying to get this stuff to pay for because see she she is. She is as good as good. She is as good as me if not better at barring economics, but hers is more close, but she but she can turn a sale into. I mean, just yes, she's marvellous when it comes to doing fashion bargain hunting. I mean, she she. She went to a sale at chain games and got a hundred dollars for the clothes for like fourteen. Fifteen bucks a chance to go to games to do that. But let me. Yeah. But I mean, it was really good stuff though. So anyway, there's that picked up the new age cosmos that came in today have you you tell you having open it yet. No, no, I didn't the box aiming kinda crush. But he looks like he's mine beat up to die-cast. Did you get? Well. Yeah. I just got it. And I did transplant. I got clear one when I say a little beat up. That's what looked like when a. That's extremely squish. Yes. Yes. There's that. But I also make it if I like this I make it the trans the trans compared to the other thing. I got is. I'm gonna say something I never thought I would say dot cast. You're right. What what does he write about this on freeze done podcast? Vance toy. Audience. Sorry. Vance meanings. Net. Now, this is the first version this is the first version I worked out a trade with James on Twitter. I ordered the x version that just came out recently. But after seeing the changes, I think the first version fit smile desire better. So we worked out a trade. He he now has my expiration. And I've got the original one have not transformed him yet. Just because again, I site expensive totally not really willing to tackle it right now. But doc cast your I mean, again, I know Cronos was not a good toll oil. But as a visual representation in my collection. He was fine. This is obviously a much better. And it'll be a much better. Totally what he's he's where he's at looming with them. But yeah, Phoenix is again, this is the first version, I think the first version looks better. The is the main thing that I really like is that that the hit these visual version ask are. The metallic blue which I think looks a lot better and the chrome on the backpack that the x version has even though it does match the wearily audit. Clone legs of the first version. You know, the thrusters I don't like the way the chrome worked in general. So yeah, I got the first version of Phoenix. Thank you James on Twitter for that Reshat it and so yeah. Other than that. I really think this stuff at target that was all off topic like the ducktail figures when they went on clearance and stuff like that. But actually got okay, cool. Hey, I'm so dawn about Cronos though. Don't you have somebody like in the neighborhood that you really don't like they could get back out? And by like, you know, setting it on their doorstep, and then like bringing the doorbell and running away and lighting it on fire. No. Because as I have said, yes, I know Kronos is a badly constructed figure. It's not very good toy. But it's done me. Fine. Visualization skype. I still like them aspects of it, and I'm keeping him collection. We we lost path that people who are watching. They can see it hopefully want to disrupt the podcast hopefully whole show up here in a second before we get to him. I guess dyke. That means you're up next. Alright I as we talked about I got the clear version of the new age yet when Sam or something it's something say. Max. That's right. Yeah. When I ordered mine a couple of weeks ago, the clear wasn't available at that time. Okay. Why did you go to clear? I don't know. I just liked how it looked and he's really tiny. Like, you know, he is small. I like the head how the head flips around instead of just being pushed down, I think that's a neat transformation idea. So he's he's pretty cool for size. And then I also got Power Rangers. Since it looks like we all got Power Rangers almost this week. I got said and he's really good. The only complaint. I have is. I wish they would have painted the staff because the staff looks kinda dumb in just regular grey plastic. But yeah, really like this line. And hopefully, you know, I'm gonna get all the Power Rangers to go with him. I'm sure we already got Tommy. So the white ranger. So you know, we're going to get the rest and we've got one Tommy only four to go. Get find if you can't ROY ranger, and oh, what's even called flip out the G two extra thoughts one. So I got two of the G to the only two G2.'s that are out so far really good and g two colors. Are there you on Keller those already URS that or the doing okay? Yep. They do the G one first. And then they released the G two usually as an exclusive like, yeah. So if gone exclusive or something. Yeah, I think the other two I'm just going to say the Redwan and the Formula one car drag strip in they're going to be out soon in the g one they're they're either this month. I think they're supposed to be out this month of, but you know, it's hard to get to out and say Monceau, they're both gonna make it also got Brian's transformer are modest sticker. All you're so awesome. So I just gotta drop it in the Mets my dream go when the car got traded in I realized okra my armada sticker went away. And then I also got. And then I also got the magic square white. Oh, ultra Magnus. I saw I saw video of on him. He does good. But I don't want that mold again, unless they do something really different than just white magnets. It's the same as the Optimus pricewise. What is that about thirty hundred forty? I got mine for a hundred fifteen and it was very little Don seems like a really I still seems like a really good price for that. Yeah. So, but I that I'm 'cause they're doing they're doing they're doing a metallic version of as well doc asked I think, yes. Yeah. They're doing which it's which is like a kind of wish I waited for that one. But I kind of don't because I do the animation colours on him. You know, be interesting to see what else they do on that mold while they tricked us because they didn't say they were going to do when tally version they just put out that Optimus prime, and we all thought, oh, that's the Optimus prime. We're gonna get. So I bought it. And now they put up out of metallic wan what two months later. I would be fine with the original one came out if I was going to get one. I just don't like, I don't know. It's not it's not masterpiece enough for me, not the sculptor design. That's fine. Just the finishes that flat. Yes, finishes not would expand. But it is. And it is very close to animation accurate. So and that's all your pluses are doing masterpiece. So it's not that far off from what you're already getting the pluses or trying to get back to what the general aesthetic is otherwise going forward, and I double dipping on character. Just to get a little more animation. Accurate. I wish I could say that. I haven't done it. But. They cast. That's okay. Oh, yeah. I got a couple of things. I also got the lightning collection figures. And they're pretty great. I love I hope to hear what the NextWave is soon are those it retail as well. Yes. Okay. So I was at WalMart earlier this week maybe late last week. There's this elderly couple. I I got a photo of them. I put on Twitter. The I I assume that she was on the phone speaking with her grandson telling him what toys that power just as they had in stock at WalMart as as as I was east dropping conversation. I came to realize that it was actually like her son bike she was buying for and not, you know, like a grandson. So in a way that you know, that made me smile, I thought that was pretty awesome Kim's doing that right now for me, she actually chimed in on the Facebook live chat to say, hey, I'm standing in the middle targets Toyo right now. You know, Simi the tax what you want just awesome. Yeah. In a as a kid I used to like either call I didn't have cell phones. I would often call the store and asks the cashier who's on their wireless phoned the cashier, but whoever to check that. And that's just part of my. Collecting childhood. I just love that. Sorry. Hey, I made good friends with the one clerk at my one toys R us the year the thirtieth anniversary GI Joe figures came out because called I must have called twice a week waiting for those to get in for like, six months and oughta those figures if you didn't you didn't get them. I got there too late to the one he worked at the worst part. I had to go to the other toys R us in the area to get him. But he was nice guy. I talked to him for years after that. That's pretty awesome. Yeah. Just sort of gave up calling stores nowadays. Because. Came the store. Yeah. I actually called toys 'r us one time not mine locally, but the one down in Greensboro, Brian, and I asked for someone that works in the boys action action and I asked him and he some male action. The mill action figures headed as thing was they were looking for. And I said, you know, are are you transfer says that's them robot things, right? Them robot things you work at his Russ. And you're not sure transformer is maybe us news. Yeah. A lot of people do it as a part time job. Yeah. I mean, I I'm sure most people who work retail are not invested in any way ninety percent of what they sell that's expected. At the time. It was like really sorry about. Alabama continue continue, please. Okay. Not talk about this week, dude. Sorry. Yeah. I've been on a more religious kick lately. So I've been picking up some older figure something new figures. And I got a a Nighthawk back there to add on my shelf other than that. I've been hitting up EBay building up a masters of evil to go along with my thunderbolts. Nice. So in the in the past week I've gotten three quarters of the wrecking crew ultra on the absorbing man world, wind and claw. The comic Altron is. Okay. Nice. Yeah. I I don't go in for the movie fix. Do you just by Hasbro or do you also go back to tweet business? Well. So far told the has Bruce a lot of the biz stuff has not aged. Well, I mean, I I still kind of like my doctor doom, and, you know, the captain Erica is is not it's okay. Well, I I still have my my captain America from like the first wave legends that in the iron man in the door. The I think the marvel of me, pardon me, the iron man, I mean Hasbro door is quite a bit better at one of the one of the few if they do an end game though. I may I may get a movie figure just 'cause I'm not I would I would steadily skip that. Only the only thing transformers related. I got this week one of the walmarts here. Restocked wave one two losses. So I picked up another cog. Oh sweet. Okay. It like playing yahtzee on your desk. I don't know. It's like, you're shuffling around some dice or something. No, so weird Mackie's bond. Cogs have out fast by six gun a half dozen times and having picking it up. 'cause is I don't I don't do the whole play pattern with sticking him on everybody else and stuff. So it's like getting multiple cog insys guns. I haven't bought the first six gun yet. So I am going to a real quick sort of break Ormat actually do that last. Jason not on crap because I wanted to show something to him. But okay. So I didn't expect to get these things this week. Honestly had forgotten about it. I'm trying to go back and pick up the classics and chug figures that I missed the first around I realized I didn't I was hardly at all buying any of the the earliest stuff you'll you'll see. So I ended up getting silver bolt which is what the ultra class figure whatever it was back. Then. Was all tra-, maybe maybe wage by that point. I remember, but I getting silver bowl, which is one of the first of the marvel legends figures came out. Similarly, I got sky fall repaint, they didn't even have them old. This was the red wine that was based what skyjacked on. Yeah. From the g two jets. Has like that. I still like that moldy. It's is your basic civil is basic robot with jed on the back. But, but at least it was a lot better done, you know, for him than some of the other syllables we got through the years. Yes. So I got that. Honestly is also something I could just take off of my EBay search list. A next got. Honestly when I thought I had. I got the original chug jet fire. So I guess what really thought about JD's by. I didn't I did have the repaint was at triple. What's the repaint yet tread boat? And they also did the dark version in Japan. I don't have that. So it's another when I gotta fix. Yeah. So that and that that jet fire, I think is held up pretty well for the time. You know because I mean it does. I mean, it's it's a very good looking jet fire. But you know, I think when the sage one comes out that will be been be Bobby will be replacing that when I got the Hank as this actually this was barricades sixty fours selling this, the Henke Astra Trine, so the classics retreat came in the white collar, the Hank is the one that you know, we knew here. So you know, I always liked that figure. Well, well, those colours anyway, it's it's better than the broadside figure. But. A lot of those figures aren't that? Great. So this one that I actually had. But for whatever reason, I disassembled it. I think to put together a custom or something I never put it back together. And I can't find all the parts now which was the red alert have no idea again, I've owned this Molex this toy nothing the mold. But this toy like three times and up selling on EBay, not realizing that I needed to keep it, and I've got two other ones that are that's in parts somewhere. But so now, I'm just trying to complete my classics line. And I figure probably have everything other than like the lawn. Seekers. I'll probably never get those Brian. You got him from me that the the the original kind set. Oh, the games of zap shit. Good. I know Matt still trying to find the thrust. Yeah. So my selects figures came in the red sweep that came in and a stepper ricochet wherever they're calling him a nice. Yeah. Do like that toy looks better than any. Right. It has any right ahead. It's not as good hand. It's okay. I mean, I'm obviously, I'm glad that it has, you know, paint the plastic like, you know, obviously. But recoil I in that to name a third party version of this. I like like shudder. I see the the gold. I'm like, oh, no, it's gonna break. But it's paint. I still think they should have included one of the battle masters to look like his target master intimated at the twenty nine dollars price point. 'cause I mean, that's repugnant, basically. Yeah. You know, put in target master with the effects arts that way, you know, he would were it'd be about about the same value as your repugnant and everything else. That's fair. And the thing I got that was going to give Jason grief for he's been trying to get me to pick up that third party sky lynx. I don't remember the name. It's it's like to him MC figures Invicta and magma should one set. I hate the idea swing two things together. But I didn't do that. Instead he got on. Reissue? I got the encore. Nice clearance from big toy store. It's actually less than original retail. It is like how clear time regulars one hundred fifteen to get paid a hundred four it. That's not bad. I mean, I've got the G one toy except mine's kind of Junker. So I wanted one it would look nice on the shelf. So yeah, I don't know if I'll open it or not I liked displaying certain things in the box. And this is a nice looking box. But at the same time sky leaks, and I want to open them up and free him. So he can like give insights, and he does take up a lot of room when every take them out of that box. Brian keep that in mind, you could take him out and put your original to store in the bucks. That's true. That's good idea. But yeah, so I got the reissue again, pretty cheap, relatively speaking. So personally may fall. So I don't have studied is a personal plug though for like some my personal Twitter account this past week. I did like some unpack. Talking of some Star Trek the motion picture trading cards have been wanting to do that for a while. And I missed that. I gotta go back to my Twitter. It's a crappy crappy crap set I watched that you said you were going to chew the gum on on our Brian. I'm holding you to that video. Yes. Oh, wow. You're right. Guy. Oh, you come for the Massey attack. Stay for this Ringling. I've done that with five year old gum. But that was worse. Yeah. That was. Nice. Okay. So that we now know that that gum has a shelf life somewhere between twenty five and forty years. Good children the rest of this right here. Trash. I'm going to keep the packs because I mean, forty years old. Yeah. But getting if you things. Not not the people ideas. But one of these packs for basically nothing in a couple of things I had as a kid. I always wanted more of. But I thought man they must be so expensive. I can't afford those. We'll guess what? I want us more out cards. I just got home wax box Alf cards. Oh, nice less than twenty bucks for the whole Boggs. Well, I'm not gonna open hoping I'll open like three or four packs because this is series one. I also he's too. Yeah. I'll series to this is like thirty six packs right here. I'll up also some of those. Yeah. But kind of some random stuff too. I already had some allergy collective sealed packs of things and I pulled him at his out to go together. And some of these would just be a show. Like, actually, here's the example of that. So I bought a pack of garbage pail kids series five that I'll do in a stream was mortgage vocations. I also bought a pack of series ten to the stream as well. Yeah. That's actu-. It, but I had some packs of series seven and series four, and I'm not expending all my packs of these stove out several so those will get opened up as well as a pack of trash controls, which is a similar line that hops did in the nineties to capitalize on the troll Crees those going on at the time. But I'm gonna go through just broke quick all the other cards. I got I got one pack of eighteen cards that'll go like in my the Audi's like several streams for garbage pail kids, I'll do one for Raynham TV shows in the eighties the eighteen cards go in the TV shows as well, this pack of Knight rider night writer trade on cards. You know, you could probably make this into thing on twitch if you wanted to could along with that, this is what I did know exist in this one makes me the happiest I think this isn't like nineteen seventy eight's cards from the gung show. Oh. You know, I hate to say this. But there's probably a free pack of cocaine and each any still lacks by Chuck barris was crazy. But I think this should make the happiest because I'm such a big is my favorite show of all time. I got three packs of mash cards, so I'm very happy with that as well as two packs of I wasn't sure if you. I was to say mash, golden girls. I wasn't sure which way that was going to go check golden girls. Carl cars why not bet there are. Yeah. So also I picked up two packs of WWF wrestlemainia three cards. I just love the pack to Cogan like doing his. Arm thing. It's just wonderful with with those heavy Sargent slaughter in them or my thinking of the wrong night, eighty recipe three I don't think he was there at that point. Magnum PI and eighty eight magnum PI another for the TV series getting more TV's left movie. It's all movies. Okay. So. And this week quick couple packs of Ghostbusters to trading cards. I'm sorry. I pay I love Ghostbusters to come. Because of course, it was a children's movie RoboCop two. Oh, yeah. Let's see here. Again, another children's movie rocky four trading cards. This is great. I I'm probably going to be several streams oh done. Yeah. You'll like this one raiders of the lost ark. Oh, cool is reading I probably have some of those somewhere didn't even know existed. I used to I used to have the entire set of the GI Joe JR. Waiting cars. I still do that was that was years ago. I still do. Those were im- imperil imprint the I can't even remember the name of the media actors, but is one of those off brands and the restaurants can related, so it's a pack of supergirl. No, wow. One pack. I need to buy more of these correspond pack of superman three four packs of superman two and a pack each of series one and series two of nineteen seventy eight superman cards. Yeah. Right. This is my good chords in there. Oh, yeah. Yeah. They'd better. So I wanted this probably break it up four or five streams over the next week or so, but I'm super stoked now. Brian do those include stickers or gum? Member stickers. Some of them are gum. I don't know if any tattoos growing up with all that stuff. But I couldn't buy any of that. Because my did. But I remember there was just I mean, you would you would go to like a ball card. Shop in frothy kids. He would have because my my dad was doing ball cards there for a long time, and they would have a kid section, and guess what you would buy all these kids trading cards. It's like your early introduction of crack before you moved up to the flair and ultra debt in ball card stuff, and he'd have all those off in the corner. But I was never out the by any. I'm sorry done. Well, maybe can vicariously you can watch this life streams, and I'm going to put up and you can enjoy that. Maybe. Okay. Maybe better. So, but rob you think that can become like a twitch thing. Maybe I could do that. It's possible. I I'm not I'm no expert twitch. But it's who knows there's an audience, basically, everything the trick is finding it. That's true. We've been looking for twenty years. So yeah. But I'll I'll probably do that maybe over the weekend. But that's all I got actually I guess talking about Ghostbusters though. I guess really the big item this week, though, is that goes Ghostbusters cross transformers Impe tin g figure that popped up. We've been basically talking about this for a while. We sort of knew that was coming. It looks like it's going to be. At least to begin with S, D, C exclusive. Yeah. Was going to say, stay DC and retail. I want want want this. I want this. I won't this right now roller is a trap, which I think is great. Yes. Rollers goes trap in. That is the best thing and packaging is a backpack. I I that makes sense. Now, I didn't get that. I believe you can't see it on the figure, but I believe that is also proton pack sitting on top of prime's trailer in the packaging, I think there will be one to mount on the figure. That's right. Yeah. Yeah. I I won't this. This will look so good look inside seven eleven Optimus. Damn you so jealous. It really is a retail one fifty nine. That's not bad. Yeah. It is. That's yeah. I guess actually, especially if it's a convention exclusive. No, that's not bad at all. One forty. I didn't notice before this that the package actually has backpack straps on it. Yeah. Nuts. Oh, yeah. You're right. Rob. I just know all that. 'cause they were up. So I didn't. Oh, yes. I I must have this weekend. Take bets on at how if this will crash Hasbro pulses website since we always cra- crash the Hasbro toy shop up. So that's. I take it. I don't think. So I think Hasbro pulses so far. I me the first one the eco- one whatever his name is extra Tron didn't crash the site. I don't think this. Awesome NPR. Yeah. They didn't crash on toy fair. I think they'll be fine. Yeah. Yeah. I think is going to I think it will persist I hope so I I mean, I'm just you know, because you know, if we're not at SEC, which we're not gonna be the only chance have getting this pulse. And we can actually get it before sells out in ten seconds. Real quick done. Your question about the cards include Gummer stickers team includes but with a one night. So yeah, now, I don't thing. I've figure is on Optimus prime's head is there recently with the two tone grace instead of like another color. I mean, it's just the hey just doesn't seem like it's right? But maybe it's just me. We just that had just doesn't like it. He looks dead. Maybe that's why maybe oh my gosh. It's prime from from dark awakening. Actually, I'm thinking actually from transfers the movie I mean, he's back from the dead than should he not himself. Be busted. That's great mission. And can't he bust himself? This Bush McCain feel good. I don't know I figure that he would probably push himself to it'd probably resolve itself. Just dark awakening did. And we can only hope that there's a return about them as prime part one to read kind, you know, the final fate. So that he can bust in you know, the three part season four that will have the re BUSTER three BUSTER that Don will, you know, love for the next fifty years. Anyway, I do want this a hope hope everybody can get this figure that wants it because it's very rare for us to be able to get these optimises in the US without jumping through hoops or done seeing the hell out of them. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, that's. I I'm looking forward to the opportunity to get it. But if we if I can't I'll just I don't know quit collecting forever. So I on ously, rob. Thank God you posted this one because I haven't had a chance to actually read it yet. So tell me about this, but bots, arcade thing. Okay. The site in demand toys has posted images of a new, but butts pack, it is sixteen pack called arcade renegades, and there are bunch of to my knowledge new molds in this. There's a couple of different models of arcade cabinet one. I think is a late gun cabinet one is a stint more standard looking one. There's a thing of cotton candy. There's bucket of popcorn a pinball machine of role of tickets, and they've only shown off the first half of this the first eight the other the other eight are going to be a surprise not sure when this comes out or what it's going to cost. But I think I kind of wanted labeled a series three. And so it is bubbles are orange too. I guess. He ended French eat at from resum series one green series too. I should notice that when I posted it. Well, so I would figure the pipes be a few months before he sees. But yeah, I like how the the the packaging bubbles have up down left, right and like numbered, but it but the action nuns are B O T and S S. Yeah. Yes. That's clever. Yeah. So yeah. So I kind of want to get this one. I like the look most of these. I'm wondering if like toy hack says working on white backgrounds that for bought displays like, you know, arcade, background work Kia ORA. Oh, that would be is or a kid's bedroom or you know, some kind of luck refrigerator for all the ones that are food based or something. I mean, you could get like these. Even show. It have a refrigerator right there beside of my, you know, ask you actually just use that something like that would actually probably cost less than when you buy specifically for the purposes of, you know, displaying toys, and it's like Peltier coolerator aren't leads Zinni trinity. And it gets your drinks. Nice and cold. Can often have to plug it in for bought box. Therefore, it would take no electric city. This is true. It'd be win win. But when you wanna call drink though, a couple of cans than their wait two days, and doggone it. So yeah, there's there's that. Okay. So transfers launches more than meets the eye campaign has pushing for transmitters thirty fifth anniversary, which is cool. I don't know much about this ngelo Bassett kickoff campaign. But I know that Hasbro are believe the Hasbro's put like a focus on transmits thirty fifth anniversary. I we have. We the pictures of the toys that showed up at toy fair that that agent emit marvel got to see, but I cast didn't believe those were labeled thirty fifth. So the thrilling thirty five going thirty five it's like this the clock is ticking, buddy. So throwing thirty five it's kind of sound sad. When you put it that way. That's true though. I throwing thirty nights, but thirty five God, you're getting old just accept it. Or the terrific. We're going to be forty this year. Brian. I know. That'd be fabulous forty. You know throw. So three of us. Rob rob Springer's already passed forty. I think is just the three of us. Yeah. Yeah. I'll be forty nine this year. You know, we established last week Donna during Poche show that you're actually older than a Patrick Stewart was when he became captain of the enterprise, Patrick Stewart, not John Luc Picard Picard was supposed to be sixty Patrick forty seven at the show. Aired. He just looked old. But yeah, how's that Matt lion? Treating you. Yes. So it that's the kickoff the campaign. Hopefully, we'll see more. I'm just really glad that has doing something to observe the thirty fifth anniversary. Why I say that they're not listening to this? It probably are. But like siege is an observation of the thirty fifth anniversary. It really is. I mean, it's it's them trying to its remember remember nineteen Eighty-four think eighty four whatever the hell. The theme was that. We love eighty plea levity four or wall it's been under siege for the past thirty five years. So not for the entire thirty five years. Or if years when you know there weren't much rakes have been taken. This one I guess is a little more to get excited about then like news we got in the past. But I'm still not one hundred percent there toys R us returns as tea are you kids with a new USA retail stores for the holiday season. So that's very promising. Sounds like we will actually get new stores about ten thousand square feet in size, which the old stores. I guess were what about thirty five thousand something thereabouts. Typically weren't large with small either. So we see stuff like this happen all the time. So are you guys simliar with the chain gander mountain? It's an outdoor store kinda like bass pro shops yet like all the gainer mountains close like last year the year before last then like three months later, they reopened with completely new ownership and every like they clear out everything, but they bought all new stock basically purchase the IP in open up new locations. This basically, what sounds like is what's going on with us? It's different people who I p that will be launching risks people running better hope, so I don't believe it till I see it. Honestly, we heard this with k b o KB's coming back. But there's I think that was postponed for a certain amount of time, though, I like a year again, we haven't heard anything out of it. So thing though, that was April. I think that was that was very clearly to me going to be abra wear nothing. Was going to happen with that this. This seems to be much more substantial at the very least, you know. Could you know, maybe not, but we've already seen the Jeffries toy box. So it's highly possible that that was the first phase semi. It's the same ownership. I believe it was and, you know, the at least the k b b s I don't nobody. There's no reason to believe the thing. I don't know if there's any reason to believe this. They've actually done stuff before. I mean, they've actually put money into it. They've actually, you know, sounds like they have a business plan where the k- thing was like, hey, m what about K bees named? I'm gonna do something with it. It's like I'm trying to sell all these podcast means and I bought up that I never did a darn thing with. That's basically, I think was happening to be speaking. If anybody wants to buy pro wrestling, podcast dot com thousand bucks, just let me know or if you want if you want to buy Joe cast dot com, I'm trying to sell that for like twenty five hundred because I'm really hoping Joe Biden wants that when we can start his own podcast or if Joe Rogan is out there, and you're listening right now. Joe cast com. Just hit me up. I'll cut you deal. I think that's about where I think that's about where KB was it was somebody's idea. They decided to put out a press release while the timing was hot. This seems to be like this is actually somebody taking action. And yeah, I mean nothing could happen. But I have more hope based on what I'm seeing with this. Then that KB thing which just just seemed, you know, untenable from the get-go thought, let's see here. That's really honestly it as far as the news that we still nothing happening this week. But if you wanna help out considering those domains aren't selling yet, we really need to cover expenses for the show's Tf radio dot net slash Amazon, you know, by whatever he can't by Alf cards. But I bet you could buy enough DVD if you wanted one t- effort dot net slash Amazon helps out covers so show Brown. One thing people can look at is the new the toys that made us. Season. One in two DVD is coming. That's something the end of they could use our Amazon link four 'cause we all I've only seen most of season one in the transformers episodes in too because I don't have net flicks. But the season one in two is coming out with some special features. So that'd be a great thing for everyone to get. So they could watch it whenever they wanted to do the Amazon link, and it's also show related. That's great. Yeah. It's great idea. I think also Taffer dot net slash Massey attack and a picked on up that mental detector that he's been wanting the longest time, right? I will say right now, please do not buy me anymore. Cadbury eggs. I have thirty eight of these lift I'm type two diabetic. I have to have one every like two or three days. So please don't buy anymore. Thank you for the thought, though, it's accounts. Don, also there's that beast machines box set. Hopefully, I haven't actually made everyone so angry that they wanna do that the calls that is just a hell of a gift to give someone who just went through surgery. And I don't wanna pluck out my own is that cost me three thousand dollars to get fixed. All be like, Odin. There's also was it wasn't plucked. Odin has eaten up by ravens. Right. Trying to watch based machines. Watch these machines, but don't have Tiffany dot net slash Massey. Tax by individual packets of miracle whip like for notch show for that. I could go for that. I can't do that. Yes. And also we have some Grenadine as well. Now, you know, or if you want to donate that money to, you know, or if you wanna say that money and get bronze domains, I'm sure you know, there's tons. Sure you too can have your own Cobra dot com. Five hundred bucks TNT podcast dot com. Five hundred bucks that that's a bargain. So there, you know. You're Joe I don't have that. Okay. Hey, rob. What's on TV this week? Okay. Hang on the sick. The first thing I know is Meyer view of transformers number four which. It's got syrup. Peter do Rochet and integrate with back. So there's some really nice art in this issue. How's that has story treating you? What you know? That's one thing. I've heard consistently from everybody talking about this comic is like the arch. Great. Where's the story? Yeah. There there is barely any story speak of that nothing's going on and it's happening very slowly. And everybody everybody in a given scene as Chris's pointed out speaks with the same voice. Like that voice will change depending on the needs of the scene. But everyone in the scene will have that voice. Now, the the big the big thing with this issue is that the middle lake ten pages of it out of lake eighteen twenty page issue are for a scene that is absolutely one hundred percent not necessary. Because the only things happen in our mentioned in the very next seen as Optimus prime is talking to iron height. So it's kind of thing, rob. I mean, do you think this is on purpose a slow Poile or or is this too slow to be a slow bowl? And they just don't know where they're going yet. I I think the slow. Oh boil is on purpose. But also they hired as I understand it a novelist to write this comic, and comics are not novels. Yeah. That hardly ever works out. Now, maybe I'm wrong, rob. And I've been wrong about a lot of things for as an outsider looking in. When I read about it being a a lot h look having nothing going on. I'm reminded of the machina series were eight segment there just wasn't enough time. You can make your point beating your desk. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I didn't. My foot was sitting. I'm sorry. It just seems like that got the novel road out in their head and their pacing h h book is a chapter that novel. But there's not enough in each chapter of being meat on the bones. Am I sing it the right way? Maybe or is. I I honestly don't know. I I don't I probably made too many like sweeping pronouncements about this comic already. I I'm really trying not to be super negative about it. But it's were for issues in and something needs to happen. People have spent sixteen dollars now to to see the nothing happen and something the only person I've heard this criticism from Rome. Yeah. And just you know, like, I said, I don't wanna be unnecessary unnecessarily negative. But this is just that they're like I said the middle the middle like third to. Third to like half of this book is absolutely pointless there. There's a bit of it that just kind of there's a bit of it that I think is very poorly staged in this kind of bugs me as to what happens, but it's just another. It's not even going to mean anything in the long run the the action that I'm wondering about so it's it's just I really want to give this a chance I real I really wanna like this. But even the things that it's trying to do that. I think are positive I feel like were handled much more smoothly and elegantly Bhai the writers that we gave up to get this. You know, you said that comics aren't novels, but for me, the period of comics that was probably the most fun in really hot on. It was even before I started reading comics like in the early eighties and late seventies comics work like novels in the sense that they were super dense with words, and that would actually be better. Because you could I I was reading somebody last year. I think it was sent me essential in volume five off of my Amazon wishlist at Tf radio dot net slash clear list. That is iron man the nose years for anyone who keeps track and I was reading through that reading through just the there's an annual the end by Steve Gerber. It features man thing, it's it's bizarre. And it's interesting, and I kept looking at it and thinking any one, hey, DJ of this would take the person writing idee w transformers right now at least a month to get through at biweekly issues. It's just there's just so much conversation so much going on. So so much happening through all that it's I I know comics are not that anymore and the and whether that's a positive or negative is debatable. But we've it it's. Not like comics paste better than this that that do better at fleshing out their characters in this are a relic of the distant past either we had that last year. Yeah. I mean for me, personally, one of the things about modern comics much is the fact that they stories have contracted something that you might get across in one issue of like a bronze each comic when it was a dense might now be like four six issues, like there's more focus on, you know, like sweeping pages of like full spreads of like art and stuff, but I read comics glove comic card. Don't get me wrong. But I prefer, you know, stories that I don't have to spend forty dollars on to you know, to to to get my story it also I just miss when superheroes used to punch bad guys. Also that of bickering with each other all the time. Yeah. And it's not a problem that anybody doing this comic really has they're they're pretty good at it. But those those big splash pages are what a lot of artists do because they cannot convey action panel panel. Very well. Yeah. Zap Zoe, right? I'm I'm old. I I have I have certain preferences about how how comics work in how action should work and how it should follow. And it's not done terribly frequently anymore. Like, I said, I think I think the artists currently working on. This are all excellent. I mean, again, we've seen what's Sarah and Andrew Griffith can do especially. But even the newer artists angel Hernandez and cash a Whitman, they both have they they are both very talented people. And just I'm almost certain there's a directive in from either ID wtrw Hasbro to keep everything on model with toys, and I think it's that is also ho. Holding the book back a lot in terms of its its visuals it because that is that is heard to do. And also, it is just really disturbing to see a, you know, living moving megatonne with screw holes on the back arm. It's weird. Yeah. Anything else? News wise. Yeah. Sorry ramble on this. But yeah, also, we've got a bunch of photos of the prime one studio Bumblebee movie Optimus prime cyber edition statue, which really nicely configure. Prime wouldn't studios, of course, makes hideously expensive. But really impressive things. This is like thirty two inches tall. According to the specs. Yeah. And highly detailed we've got like sixty eight images of it on T for. I gently can't tell some of the photos of this apart from the from the control our it is really nicely done. Yeah. It looks pretty nice and other than that. I think we've got one more story about the echo thirty five Optimus prime. And that's about it. Nickel. Chris isn't here in flagstaff. But you can check them out at play with tiger dot com. His photos, and I think he links to his Twitter Instagram there so play with photography dot com. Johnson out here that John D everywhere. Most remiss in Jason Jason s Kirk dot com. All his shows, I'm on Twitter at B Kilby on Instagram at Brian Kilby. Like, I said I'm going to have some of these heck let me open up now Pakhanov cards. It's already thing. I'm gonna do some unpacking out series one twenty five cents for a pack like at that. And it comes with bully baseball cards. Sticker. Fantastic. I'm not gonna cheat the gum all this is like this is my childhood right here. Partly dumb on the bully baseball hard. Okay. And what do you mean? Believe bit. What do you mean by that? Did you ever watch Alf? Yeah. But it's been I'm not watching since the regional run on baseball. That was Mel as amac. Okay. All right. Yeah. I'm not one with fish as I recall. And the name right there. So I would have to pry this gum off the bait volume as about heart. But unlike that I mean, but unlike that Star Trek series and open which almost all puzzles or info cards that were mismatched between the front and the bags which was horrific. There's a lot of information embedded on the back of these cards are puzzles like on the sticker here, the Al Valentine's card, but most of them there's all right up on the back. I love that stuff. But yeah, I'm happy now. But yeah, so done you haven't been on in the wild tell people how to get hold of you act can be reached on Twitter at HP more. See the number four VR, cool, Matt. Nope. Oh, that's right. Sorry. Die-cast mad is not available anywhere. He's Vale right here. Should enjoy him. I'm vailable anywhere bailable on Twitter at die-cast to and on Facebook at reviews by die-cast and also on. Tf radio dot net slash reviews where you can see my review of fence toys row king, which is there motor master lychees. Nice and simple in just easy to transmit always not it's beautiful. It's a lot of panels. But it's beautiful. Actually, I think I would had easier time transforming it if I watched a video review before I did it the instructions were terrible. So actually, I know I said in the review that I don't want to transform it again, but act- actually after sitting in while I was editing it and watching my own transformation as like, I bet you this would be a lot easier. The next time I transform this. Usually is don't you hate having to be the Canarian that mine though. Yeah. I really hate having the look at the instructions and metoo the instructions are so bad, and they take you the total wrong direction that I. Actually, transformed it in. So the first time transform it by the instructions was terrible. But once I did it my own way. When I transformed it back from vehicle to robot. I realized the correct way to do it, and it would been a lot easier to transport bit back from robot vehicle again. So I don't know if you saw that people watching that horrible gigantic piece of forty year old that Jude tried to jump from the eighties, which is about ten years after that other pack about half the size, the big gum becoming Kan lie. I wish it was still edible. But I think it'd be more worried if it was still little at this point. Yeah. Right food, scientists wonderful wonderful thing. Okay. With that. We'll see next week have a good win. Funny here. This has been Radio Free cyber draw. Visit us at Tf radio dot dad for show notes. And to subscribe to the podcast. Follow us Twitter at Tf radio for news and updates watch. Our live stream at Tf radio dot net slash live. Join our Facebook fan page at Facebook dot com slash Tf radio subscribing to our YouTube channel Tf radio network. Have a question or comment. Leave it on our Facebook fan page our mail it to contact at Tf radio dot net. This podcast is released under a creative Commons license. Any of this podcast, Ken and should be redistributed. But please proper attribution is required. If you know what's good for you. Radio Free cyber draw the original transformers internet radio show since nineteen ninety nine. 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Mad Money w/Jim Cramer 09/17/18

MAD MONEY W/ JIM CRAMER

44:00 min | 3 years ago

Mad Money w/Jim Cramer 09/17/18

"Why mission simple to make you money? I'm here to level the playing field all investors. There's always a bull market summer and I promised to help you find it. Have money starts out. Welcome at money, welcomed. Okay, America one make friends. Just trying to save you some money. My job searches entertain, but the teacher. So call me at one, eight hundred seven, three CBC or tweet me Jim. Cramer. Maybe we need to take all these worries about the Taras President Trump sloppy on Chinese imports peps with a grain of salt, maybe a whole container Morton's iodized look at the action even when dot so hot day. Like today, Dow lost ninety points. SNP declined point by six percent. NASDAQ did plunge one point, four, three percent. It makes me wonder whether this trade were really matters as much as many think given what's rally versus what went down today. I mean we all day right that the president is going to nounce towers the bell and the stocks got hit well, I don't know once it got hit the least are the ones that should be hurt the most. So this sessions good Brahmin what I mean, let me flush this out. Remember the stock is forecasting machine does a surprisingly good job of predicting the future. Usually six to twelve months. That's intermediate-term timeframe that I like so much. And right now the market is saying, China is not what you should be worried about the stocks of the industrials. Lots of exposure to the People's Republic. They held up just fine. Even though again, we knew the president's going to speak. The strongest performers were three m, Illinois tours, Hywel Caterpillar all stocks that should have gone down down hard. If we're really concerned about a longer term impact of a trade war was down. It was FANG my acronym for Facebook. Oh Amazon, Netflix, and Google. Now of it, let us down and FANG hardly any Chinese exposure. Let's cook for the big China exposure stocks and see what it tells us. Netted technologies, major player in aerospace, gigantic elevator business Otis, which just a ton of business in the People's Republic. In fact, United Technologies is tripling lever to China. I, there's the elevator business. Second, the company needs approval from the Chinese regulators to complete acquisition of rockwell-collins. Third, when it comes to the aerospace division, China buys one in four planes made by Boeing, that's a major United Technologies customer. So they'll feel any stress in that relationship. If these tariffs, we're going to be really destructive years, pick this document for me a lot worse than it is in serious trae word. There's no way China would allow United Technologies, even buy Rockwell clients Collins and yes, they had to power get the stocks trading just a couple of fifty two week high. That tells me Wall Street simply isn't worried, audibly about the future of some industrials. In China. And other one Emerson electric, the diversified industrial that also some major Taina exposure Emerson's been there forever. China's massive infrastructure, build out his writing that we'll have. In fact, just as summer, the company decided to build a research center in China. If we're really worried about the trade war, this stock would be at earn your, it's low instead it's a couple of cents away from its high. Okay. Then there's a classic one Honey will this dog just got a nice boost today from Baird which touted Honeywell's tremendous organic growth. And it's often overlooked fortress of balancing, but you know, what's not overlooked the Chinese exposure Baird sites, Honeywell's digit growth in China as a positive they don't throw in cat is about the trade dispute. Make sense to me when CEO Derek Danjaq came on the show. He had a very compelling case for what we shouldn't worry so far. He's been right. Those who sold been wrong if that tiny. Well, just made a new fifty two, we kind that doesn't happen if everyone's terrified, that trade wars going to record big part of their business. And remember there's a lot of smart mines buying. Me stocks if you didn't know any better, you think that apple would be in the costs. Here's your either because it will need to pay more for parts to the next round of Trump's towers or because the Chinese might start boycotting their products, or maybe we're all going to get some higher costs because of issues involving imports. While while the stock's up recently, the big today six dollars tells me that someone with deep pockets believes that Apple's going to get hurt. However, we have to go for the moment besides the action in the stock. See, I think the jury's still out here and we aren't certain how the US will handle apple goods made China. Finally, there's one close to home for me. My chapel stout to pot where CEO at Breen told us today, he's going to stay on his executive chairman when a company breaks up into three components. Now there's a two day analyst meet the beginning to remember where he'll lay out everything. Now, though, tariff flying back and forth. Dow DuPont is expected to get it from both sides, especially in their crop protection business one. Even I am worried about this as anyone who reads their Bolton. Can tell from the child trust the darn thing rallied today, even attention to get slammed. Whenever these trade tensions flare up. I think the fears of retaliation. Your are actually, they, they matter, but the stocks doing just fine. Strange. Meanwhile, the plenty of retailers source to merchandise from China, but let's get serious. President Trump is now been in all of us really two years, and he's been talking Trump one tough on China phrase. There's simply no way. Most of these retailers haven't made provision to move a lot of their manufacturing, perhaps Thailand, Cambodia, Vietnam, all, which are actually cheaper places to business with even without the tariffs on Chinese goods. The American consumer should we here so far this whole multi-front trade war hasn't really had much of an impact. Nothing's really gone up in price dot noticeably in fact, car companies have had to entice consumers with this count. So we end to worry about the steel prices lumber prices. They fall in solar and solutions are up in more productions coming here. The employment numbers are so strong that it's hard to see any job losses with tariffs. We've seen no increase in the cost of consumers retail and it's not based retailer eating the cost, hardly any them under any gross margin pressure. This may be the least promotional environment. I've seen all the years. I've followed me till including halcyon days of the nineteen nineties. Then there's the other side of the ledger though. Now, let's really talk about what bear market looks like and who's really getting hurt here. Okay. Conning maybe doing just fine and our stock market. But China, I see see real problems and RIA worse. For instance, the Chinese stock market has fallen to its lowest level since November of twenty four team fact is now down twenty percent your date. And I don't think it's found a bottom yet. We on the other hand, Gumi stock market with the SNP up about seven point, five percent for the year because we have terrific float with very little inflation at the Tara so far supposed to be hurting our economy. How's that possible? And do we really think some ten percent tariff on Chinese goods are going to hurt her twenty five percent. I gotta tell you. I don't even know if this were real problem. The retailers would be Ademir their fifty two week lows, not their fifty two week highs. Look, there are some real worries here. I'm not denying that I'm concerned about a slowdown, loan growth. We've seen that in the numbers from the banks, but I know there's so much money sloshing around on the tax cuts had it may not make sense to borrow to have the money in the back already. Why borrow more? I can't pinpoint all all that many jobs that are being created by companies moving back here or opening here in order of having tariffs place in their goods. I knew the president does talk about that, however, given tight labor market is here. I don't think that even matters at the moment that x. tonight predator about Taras putting a damper on i. tippety but then also said a small amount of. Goods or covered. That's all unless forget the storm damage from the weekend while the hurricane was horrific, national tragedy. The thing about these storms is that they do tend to be good for the economy in the area that they happen. This one should spark a rebuilding effort that will get business warrior substantial swath of the country just like it did with hurricane Harvey in Texas last year and short. I think our Connie's actually going to get a lift from this tragic. So the bottom line, the punish can federal. They won about the trade war sabre-rattling, but the action, the stock market, the inside certain stocks Tuzmen it's not cut and dried how much do hurt business, especially not when you consider the red hot state of our economy. Let's go to Brock in Wisconsin, Brock. Are you do it? I'm doing fine. Brock. How about you? I'm wonderful. Thanking the big who yacht don't act over here. They well, then team stuff. Go ahead. So I may be, but can't legally Budweiser tended less. Tended less the parent company and hydrogen Bush. But my question is with the girls legal marijuana industry, I mean, is it worth picking up but off the drop or leave in that theory, if you believe that Siri, Brock, you want to own constellation brands because they got that big station canopy otherwise to attenuate it to go by. But how about we go to Ed in Ohio Ed. Hi, Jim, a big Cleveland rocks yet to you, give you time for that and what's up. My questions are about Stanley black and decker symbol s w. ks. Recent minor stakeholder purchase of MTV products a private firm Stanley was down about fifteen percent today, but since the purchase has been heading back up and I've read that Stanley does grow by buying good companies. Do you think just purchase will just a spike for them or is it signaling the turnaround further? I think that the hurricane is going to help. I think that there was a piece this morning about recent from very fine analysis about how businesses better they were around town telling you the businesses. Good. I think that one works even though the stock has been down starting the bass. I like it. Let's go to Brady Massachusetts, Brady going on the lake. Stuart, Scott. Sorry about that game with the Jags. Their Brady, what's up? Hey, I think both of us suffered in Florida. Keep, hey, Dobie Western Digital. With this AMD surge, and you are the half terabyte of flash memory. Are we on her item at the end of disk? Memory read, look, let's let's put it this way. I think that dismembers been rooting for some time, but flash memories been okay. But flash pricing has really crater plate, which means to me that you still got to wait to see what Western Digital doesn't. They guy down stocks go down when they got down. We, we need to wait until we hear that want to understand if Taras matter is kinda kick look at the individual stocks that are going up and down a little more confusing and not clear how negative the tariffs will be tonight. It may sound strange via white analyst. Downgrades in mind, boggling ratios don't matter for certain course in this market, you could walk a mile and the f. shoes. Would you be making a profit online? The recent strengthen the company's vans bread to see if you continue on and has joked up, pulled off best you of the company formerly known as value. And I've got these. So stick with Kramer. Don't miss a second of mad money follow at Jim. Cramer on Twitter. Have a question tweet graver hashtag mad tweets. Send Jimmy mail to mad money at CNBC dot com or give us a call at one eight hundred seven, four, three CNBC something Ed to mad money Dutt CNBC dot com. Public figure speak including us. So we so much soul-searching. You can expect not many chief executives are willing to really kind of be tough on themselves on national committee. That's why it was so refreshing when we spoke to Marcus the Motors, g of camping holdings. Back in June. This company was sells new and us to our visa with various related centuries and services. Seeing it, stock it obliterated, or the previous six months. There's always one of the toughest candid self assessments we ever seen from CEO show the Motta's talked about how he'd made some rookie mistakes, transitioning from private company to a public one raked himself over the coals actually for not doing a better job of communicating. The reason I recent acquisition of gander mountain, a hunting and fishing me Taylor while the stock cut a nice, and I think deserving boost if that interview planners Simpson for couple of months. So when you're cold in about Camping World, not long ago, I said, we need to hear from Marcus the Mona's who by the way, I think is really, probably most importantly, just purchased twenty thousand shares Friday. I think that's the reason why the Stockland higher. It's such. Great vote of confidence. Let's check in with Markle's woman. She's the chairman CEO of Camping World holdings and the host of the profit. Find out why so Bosh about as well. Welcome back the money to see more. See you. You. People CEO's can sell for any number of reasons. Sometimes it's because of state planning. Sometimes they wanna do the right thing taxes. They only buy one reason. They think that their stocks can go hard. You just gave quite a cop a conference you bought, you know, we were in this weird period because I had sold several months back. I mean, almost I think six months back and I had this window to buy were now in a blackout period is today Friday. I wanted to get into the market and I set up the bed and I ended up only with twenty five thousand shares. I was kind of disappointed. Well, there are buyers. I mean, the stock once there, many people who want to be in the stock. And then I think there are people who don't grasp your longer term vision. So I'm not going to be constrained by the spreadsheet. I want you to tell our viewers about the read. One of the reasons why you probably to buy as you think you can double in the next five years will will. We'll double okay and that that will mean what for profitability. Look at the end of the day, we are an RV company first and foremost, and our number one asset, our customers that sit in our. Sam file. That's the most important part of our business. But in order to grow that file into grow the annuity part of our business, which is good Sam, we have to really grow our platform where able to make dealership acquisitions anywhere between one and four times EBA that's trailing, even not adjusted like public company to do not some, right, right. The real number, we provide a good exit strategy for a lot of dealers. And as I looked at where this company needed to go doubling, the size of the dealership footprint was really the only option and gander outdoors was really the, the spark really takes us there. Can you talk about the good Sam program which many people may not be familiar and how gander can be used to generate huge numbers yet? So the good Sam file and the good Sam club or an important part of our business over one hundred million dollars are dot comes from the good Sam business it self, and essentially it's people that want to save money on campgrounds, camping, all hunting fishing, camping equipment, but they also wanna buy roads. Assistance, which is similar to triple eight for our viewers want to get a warranty. They want to have a credit card and enjoy all the benefits. We sell all of those finished products. And so as people walk in the front door, those are fresh sets of eyes. And I said, so people to be able to sell the products and services to the analysts are kind of caught up with this idea that you did lower EBA. But you say, point blank, look, strategically and deliberately tried to emphasize the high dollar low margin business that wasn't doing well for Camping World. It's the motorhome business. The high dollar low turn, low margin business. And when I look at our partners today, particularly look at our relationship with or twenty five percent this week? Yeah, about twenty five percent of their business. We have a really good congruence with understanding where the funnel is for the consumer. It's the entry level Togo where the first time buyers come to market and as people come into the market, our job is to stair step them up the motorhome businesses, good, but it never Jim. It never recover. Never recovered from two thousand eight, never. Now you should talk about. I thought the parts and services numbers and the increase in finance and insurance Ganic. They're big, but it's the saving in a way, right? Are service and parts numbers are large because they serve the installed base. So there's close to ten million are years in the marketplace. And so people say, well, the business has cyclicality to it, it does, but it serves the installed base where I start to get a little nervous is when you start to think about things that could affect this business to gas prices affect the biz. Right? To degree to interest rates affect the business, not really. What affects this this industry? Not just can't world, but Thor is the availability of credit, the availability of credit. And so you put the RV business in the housing market, the car business in the housing market together, and you got the RV business. I got it. Okay. So that's what made a different this question on your website. You really detail. What I think is my daughter does glancing. You really got. People understand the, it's like it's a lifestyle. It's a lifestyle. And what we're ultimately Jim trying to do is find the millennial, the millennial who doesn't want to go in their fathers. Oshima's dealer their fathers motorhome they wanna go on a smaller unit, a lighter unit. They wanna pull it with their Prius, and we've made a concerted effort through gander to enter that market. Well, the guy, I think the woman view is clear doubling of the number of dealerships would be good right now we have the trade show. This last weekend in Hershey, Pennsylvania sales seemed good feel that's Marcus than one is chairman, CEO of Camping World who just put twenty thousand shares for the view that he just articulated right here on the show, man, monies back. No retail film Firelight we especially pretty much anything to apparel accessories, but within this bull market, some of the best performers have a special name. These companies call themselves lifestyle brands. So tonight, one asking question that I'm sure is Kurt amenable what there is a lifestyle ban. What does it mean? I could tell you that a brand becomes a lifestyle brand when it tries to represent the values and interests of a whole subculture. But I think that's looking at it backwards you need. This kind of thing is the pinnacle of marketing. Why style brains don't just try to sell your podcast. They also say you a whole identity. Classic example Lou limit these guys. Don't just make a power right? Let it could prowl anybody can do that. They built this very effective image as a yoga inspired maker of at leisure products, clothes you can wear while exercising or while you net flicks end chill the put is has a very clear identity. It's a popular. That's part of the reason why the stock has been such an incredible performer Tripoli. Over the past year and a half and hitting an all time, high tech, another textbook, lifestyle brand boop barn. The western inspired footwear and apparel chain when we'd see you Jim Conroy in the show hope he was pretty amazing. I joked at the stores like the costume department for John Ford western, I dunno Conroy made it very important point. But when you get out and you and you fly from here to l. a. and you look out the window for five and a half hours of that six hour flight you're looking down and customers that drive a pickup truck, right? It's the most popular vehicle in the US and they're listen to country music, and that's they wear boots hats work wearing blue bluejeans everyday their life. This isn't a costume at all for them. This is what they wear lifestyle brand for the millions of people wear boots and jeans to work every day while listen to country music in the pickup trucks. Boop porn sells products that are part of their identity and what might not be obvious. The people on the coast lifestyle banished become incredibly popular, which is why it stock has more than tripled over the last twelve months. The key here is that increasingly fragmented society, lifestyle brands, they can feel like you're part of something. Maybe something larger than yourself and people are willing to pay up for that sense of group identity, but it's not like you can just pull out one of these lifestyle pains overnight. It takes years of consistent marketing to lay the groundwork. Once the work is done, though we've seen move women and boot barn among many. Others that this concept can be incredibly profitable for you as an investor. I could say the same thing about Nike. So I wonder what I think could be the next big lifestyle brand. I'm talking about Vance vans. The footwear and apparel brand that for years was mostly social, skateboarding, but now it's become something bigger related to action. Sports music aren't street culture. Now, vans belongs in other at embedded into a company called VF Corp. The apparel tighten it also owns faced timberland and a host of other brands. However, vans has been growing like crazy, and now it's become an even larger part of the four is the parent company is spinning off its Denham business. Think Wrangler Lee jeans. So vans will represent a bigger piece of the pie. How hot is this one? Holy cow last week, PF analysts date just for Vance, and it presented very compelling story fans already the largest and fastest-growing. This is amazing what a transformation into the company spins off its change business. It's gonna count for about thirty percent of its sales going forward. That is used still up. So let's drill down into what they told us last week because this was really a masterclass in how the build a lifestyle brand. We'd be of corporate quired vans, fourteen years ago, it was a niche brand stagnant growth. The Oban had a lot of counter cultural cachet, but it's going the wrong direction since then Vance's it sales from three hundred sixty million to three billion while its gross margin, what they make after the cost of good sold rose from forty, eight percent to sixty percent and the profits exploded. This gigantic numbers for Powell. How. Right? They took a brand was very popular in California and turn it into a nationwide phenomenon that's going international. In addition to a bunch of productivity, improvements distribution changes going to wreck to consumer rather than purely wholesale. For instance, the company focused on making vans more aspirational. They doubled down on its action, sports business, specially shoes for skateboarding. Then when Kevin Bailey took over as brand president, two thousand nine, they started trying to really figure out how they connect with their customers. Here's what he said at the analysts meeting quote, we really felt that there was something more there because when we talked to avid vans wears, they were so passionate when we stood for and we wanted to understand more about that end quote, then Bill goes on and say, quote, we engage in ruin process to really understand everything. There was to know about our consumers and eleven countries at that point. And it really helped us reveal something as we talked to skaters artists musicians, string, cultural icons, we learned that they really just wanted to celebrate. And share their self expression and quote, that's when they realized that bans had an appeal beyond skateboarding, then it could be all about creativity. Youth culture, basically of corporate quieter, very niche brand with a strong but limited identity. And then they found a way to broaden that identity in order to appeal to a lot more people that's very similar to how Lou was originally yoga brand. But now it's millions of customers who never done a minute of yoga. No wonder that stock just keeps hitting high after high. Now, why don't we care about this stuff? Because vans has been able to consistently live revenue growth in the mid teens for over a decade. Most apparel companies would kill for that kind of consistent straight, but corpus dishes company. It's not enough just for them to have a terrific lifestyle man. Now they're moving into a new phase with the goal of turning vans into quote, a global icon of creative expression, those their words not mine how well is going, okay. Eighteen months ago. BF company-wide analysts meeting an investor investigate where they laid out a long-term vision. They only spent half an hour talking about bans. They predicted that the brand could see. It's sales rise to three point. Three billion dollars by twenty twenty one twenty twenty one. That's a competent and you'll growth rate of eighteen to ten percent. Turns out that forecast was way too pessimistic. Last week told us vans would hit three point, four billion in their current twenty nineteen fiscal year. In other words, vans, two years ahead of schedule by them growing at ten percent clip. It's going at twenty percent clip yet vans has accelerated revenue growth. That's incredible. Maybe they're not my style, but they will on some people. I'm sure. Now the company's talk about vans becoming a five billion dollar brand by twenty twenty three. Again, I think just being conservative, they'll get rolling. Don't get there by rolling out more advanced seekers and new apparel while continuing to expand overseas. They're also doubling down the direct to consumer business. Bottomline, never underestimate the power of successful lifestyle. Brand vans could soon become the third largest lifestyle sports brand in the world behind Nike and Adidas. That's why I think the of corpus still by even up here, then I getting nearly enough credit for Vance, but once they spin off that genes business, I think the main company will look a lot more tractive to growth-oriented money managers, particularly those who all it was was VF corporal. And I think it's a great buy into any tariff related weakness that you knows coming down the pike. Let's go to John in Marilyn John. How you doing today? I am doing well. How about you? Woes coming up a little rain down here in Baltimore house, New York, going out. No, no. Just kind of focusing on. Life, lifestyle, leisure. How about you. Well, you know, right now would be a great time for ten of the use chat with those weather along. Book the problem with candidates him, we profile, this was the stock went up so much after that one quarter that when reported the last quarter the stock got hit on, what I think was no good reason at all. I completely agree with John in Maryland. I think kanagroos is a by right here at fifty seven and I buy more if it got below fifty. Let's go to Jason and Massachusetts, Jason. Jim, during your segment on wingstop last week, you said that Ana analysts downgraded on valuation, but the keeps going up and up because of its total addressable market. Tam. Planet fitness seems like it could be similar. It's good international expansion. I store in Mexico with sixteen hundred stores. Currently, there's talk of growth through four thousand everyone with a fitness atmos- be lining up their low low cost health club, so isn't a by or should it be under this? It's had a very big move in the last quarter went went from forty to the. The fifties come back down. I think at forty, five, forty six. Be a really terrific by it's time to give credit where credit is due. This shoe that is bans is becoming a lifestyle brand. I think VS's of by because of it not just because of north face what much more money did bows. Put the Bosch demise on talking with this year to see if the turnaround is for real or not. Then some stocks are so that you can't help yourself when it back class examples where to put your money and all their calls rotten parts. Live in round. So stick with Kramer. Tomorrow kickoff that trading day was squawk on the street. From post nine at the NYSE you know, what kind of return? What do you got a call on trying. Just a sec twain reads undersea to pick up my prescription. It all starts at nine AM eastern. For sure when a Cup was on, it's deathbed has made them rackets recovering. That's the question we need to answer and comes to balance health Cubbies, aka the pharmaceutical business known as value value, hey, this is a drug company, the coup by leaps and bounds. Thanks to a series of acquisitions, but eventually food too close to the Sun Valley business imploded due to a mixture of corporate malfeasance and best strategy came punching back there. So in the spring of twenty sixteen, they did a big house Gooding ported, new CEO, Joe Papa comparative. Since then he has done an incredible job selling businesses to clean up. The company's hideous Balaji vote was a couple of core franchises eyecare, gastrointestinal health changing into balance health it to the company's well respected Bassim brand dermatological sub to under Papas leadership. The stock his rallies from get this one about one hundred seventy percent from its April twenty seventeen lows. When we check in with them west, he'd already made tremendous progress, turning one sailing company, actual organic grower. Then last week we got another very positive element. Bowser reached. A really important settlement with tethers act to activists unit over Zaire facts in here we, oh, this isn't your blouse syndrome drug that will keep the joke, one patent incredible next ten years. So that's why the stock folding, fourteen percent of the news. Well, since pullback someone commits do just the beginning. Let's take a close. Look with your poppies the chairman, CEO Lomb bouts health companies now to your more about the settlement and what it means for the company, as well as all the new drowns. Dmed money, Joe. Good to be. All right, Joe. He said at the beginning, you would try to fix the balance sheet. You've paid down seven billion. You still say debt-laden say that you say you would do what was necessary for the divestitures. You said that you would do good in pricing which you have. You said you would settle the lawsuits. This lawsuit was the big one to settle wasn't? Absolutely. My legal team just done an outstanding job in dealing with of these legacy issues with this settlement of vaccine was was one example. What importantly this does is we think it's good news for patients because it gives us additional ten years to develop new indications for patients continued invest research and development dollars, but it's also good for the Bausch health shareholders because what it does is it removes the uncertainty in the marketplace which allows us to continue to invest in the product, and importantly, come out new indications. I can't. I can't over emphasize how important because you have people like a piper. Jefferey analysts who just been negative negative. He said, look, we have upgrading BHC raising the price. There really was nothing you do. You have to. I love this time to lay down our weapons because now the focus is on your new products. You gotta go over them because pretty pretty substantial. Absolutely. We've been very fortunate been investing in research and development this year loan research and film up fifteen percent versus last year all targeted towards bringing out new products. So for example, we're launching a new silicone hydrogel daily contact lens. We're launching it in Asia. We're really excited about with that means we launched a new product by Zoll to of is Alta is for the treatment of glaucoma interac- your pressure in that that's doing good momentum. And we think two thousand nineteen to be even better. One of the important ones we have is Luma fi, very good product. It's now been in the market since may and already is the number one physician recommended product for the treatment of red is. And it is already over twenty percent share user because I don't sleep at doesn't stink. And that's why like we're glad. Glad to hear that. Glad to hear that. We've also launched new contact onto bio true ultra for ultra multi focal and the torque lenses. So we've got a lot of things happening even to new ones Altree. No, just approved for dermatology for retinoids products that we're really excited about what this means for our future and the excitement that we're starting to turn the company around. We were two years into a multi year plan. Importantly, in the last two quarters, we've shown organic growth for the first time since two thousand fifteen new said on this call that you think the divestitures are pretty much done. You feel that you can through EBA thaw actually paid them more debt. We think the best way to pay down debt, obviously to grow the grow, the earnings of our company. And by doing that, take that cash, put it towards debt. So we think we. Do not feel we need to sell anything right now. Obviously, if someone comes to us and they say, we'll offer you a great price for for company or product. We have to think about that and listen. But right now we do not feel compelled to sell and thing, which puts a much stronger position in on seem to always want you to sell the company. I mean, you've done everything that every analyst has asked one thing if it just run cupping. Well, I think the, you know what I can only focus on is is running the company that best the ability if someone comes to us and they say, we want to go for your price of expert for the company. That's a good price. We obviously have to listen. So we're public company every day. A public company is for sale. But the reality is that what we're focused on today, just continuing to improve the operational efficiency of this company and that's paying down the debt, getting rid of the legacy problems and starting to grow your man of your word. I remember when I question every all three of those and you've been able to deliver and this litigation settlement is gigantic guys. That's Joe poppies the and chairman of balance. Health companies wasn't called that we saw you last now it is. They have money's back to the break. It is time. And then are you ready skiing. Big. Barris country, Jim on pay their performances on pay the industry so far in this faith future look to your eagles. Okay. Thank you very much. Carson Wentz starting. Now, here's the thing. This is now dropped five straight points. Another point, and it's really going to be oversold and. Couch associate Paul, what we've been saying by joining the actual plus dot com. Let's good as speed in Texas, Steve Buni, Julia. Call me about sixty on clothing, the NS what you thought about it, you know, look glucose. If you're going to do group, Gus monitoring, if you want to be conservative by Abbott, if you want to be a little little more aggressive by decks gone those dealing that I really care about, go to David all day. Clean earth from the home of the Chicago Bears. Monsters of the midway linebackers. Dick foot might single Carey and now resilient -ducted hall of Famer Brian Urlacher. Thank you for taking my call Jordan Howard. Disney Twenty-one on feeling great. What's up. Kim companion. Animal friendly plug ever. I like I deck flab ide- x. act what's never forget that ever insults to end. Bog is all AMD. Ibex labs does come down here and that is exactly when you buy another five. I think it's perfect. Let's go to Jack in New York. Jack by, I think girl you. Oh, thank you. I'm calling about f, o o go note. It's been very volatile lately. I wanna know if I should now. No, no, no, no, that's not the kind of stock you buy a week that is not the kind of stock that going down right back. That is the kind of stock that is very consistent, inconsistent numbers, but stay away and in Florida. Jim big. Hello from Cape coral. Okay. Question about den berry resource. There's the earning last quarter and they have good orange for the next quarter and they have a good forecast for next year. But. I'm a little tent because it it's taken drac fifty two weeks. I think you've had a brew. It could run in that one is not really high quality company that group is struggling. I'd say ring the register is been in Tennessee Osborne. Thank you for taking my call. Of course, my question is about app Toco. I wonder what do think about buying it on a pullback. Okay. This people are. Count to me. This is a worrisome situation because I've got cloud stocks that are going down and I want to buy the cloud kings when they go down sales forces going again in part, I mean graduations Morgan Lynn, Betty off buying time magazine, I think is good in totally separate from Salesforce, but Salesforce is going down seeing some close like that. Let's go to Mark in Missouri Mark who Jim genetic testing faith journey of your thoughts on core. I have looked at this company when I did the biotech bible for the street dot com, and I felt that was way to spec, but you know what this thing is just work, but it's not mine. It's too speculative me as long as you understand it is to spec then you're okay. How about Jeff in California, Jeff? Hey, Jim, greetings from sunny southern California. Hi, Kim. I've been on a fast moving, train, cold Wayfair up over. You know, this is this is one that I'm gonna tell you on the call one. I, I really liked it. I go higher. I never thought it would get to this level at these prices. I think it's too high, but why listen to me, I actually saying that for the last twenty points when you hear people say that stuff on TV say that hated for awhile. I prefer to say, you know what? I have not been the call away. Fair. Not cutting it, right. Let's go to canyon in Texas canyon. Renew your book at sane investor, an insane world. I'm a new investor straight out of the university. My docket JD dot com. That is, and I am not a believer. I, there's a single one that I'm recommending there. That's it. Let's go to Sammy and Louisiana. Sammy billion, Jim, Sammy and thank you for being the greatest in the world. Okay. What's up? Well, let you know if you run another book. I'm going to buy the mmediately well, one thing. Okay, interesting. Maybe I'll do it. What's hope you do because I'm gonna buy it. In the meantime, what are your thoughts about McDonald's. CD's. This stock has been acting really terribly to tell you that group. I really do prefer Wendy's. I did at the stop my wife yesterday from getting bacon it or not is a Nuff. I like it in principle, and that lays the inclusion of the. Mike big round is sponsored by TD Ameritrade. Some socks are so consistently hot. That when you get any kind of poop, especially the kind of caused by trade war worries. Right now need to hold her does deuce by even if they seem ridiculously expensive. Let me give you some classic examples. First of all, there's the payment copies, MasterCard, visa, global payments into it. I'm putting that in that category and square. They've all seen their stocks were higher on good days and barely get dented on days. They jumped hold what's known as multiple turnstiles on nothing, not a word on quits. They finally got hit, and I think that this is indeed nice buying opportunity. I think he'll be back O'Keefe rallying for the end of the year. So you buy slowly by the way down, but you can start, how do I know because periodically get a chance to buy these stocks like when marking special Puerta quarter where it's Reverend growth allegedly slowed and spending ramped up. Knock the stock down from three ninety nine. But you literally had to every single negative word that was said about this one and just buy it while holding your news. Now it's at one hundred nine. Same goes for health insurance, dachshund teen. We like that United help terrible trusted you man anthem. Cigna, whatever they say is what we're seeing, whatever they do is a okay men that hit today. And again, I think they're biser, especially Cigna which is purchasing Express Scripts. It's a deal with just green lighted by Justice department. This very morning long-term. It doesn't seem to matter if their quarrels with stage with employees, federal government, every negatives, just speed bump on the way to higher levels for these health insurers and don't you wish you some medical device stocks Bill. You're gonna get your chance here. Boston scientific Becton, Dickinson, aluminum, Perkin, Elmer Abbott labs, Ned Tron ick Thermo scientific zimmer-biomet, intuitive surgical. They had all been roaring Beezer sainted stocks. The fact that they put back today's a gift, Thermo Fisher. TM. Oh, down graded by golden, what an opportunity. And yet when you look at the price, juries multiples, it's very hard to justify owning any of these in the old days. I would never commend these talks these levels, but these days we have a stock shortage caused by buybacks, ETF money. Remember all that money comes into, plus these winters get pushed up endlessly because the hedge funds and mutual funds that own them get more money in precisely because they're doing well, and they tend to invest that you money in the same stocks in the same winners. Because remember they don't seem to care about price at all. I could go on about particular industries. Anything helps small business and security. Any cloud, our king or prince, they all work, especially on trade related week just like we had today, we we have tomorrow, so I'm this is a piece that's really prepping it. Okay. Prepping for this trade stuff. At the same time, they're groups that seem downright talks oils in the banks. They can barely mail a rally. The banks tried today when they do well, you gotta worry that they get back those gains at any single moment. Periodically get some variation that group, for example, most of the house related stocks. Terrible, right? Except for Sherwin Williams, which I think is reaping the benefits of the bowl decision to by Val spark. One of its big competitors it could it down today from research from finished up of buck. Forty, nine, see what I mean by sainted. What's so frustrating. So Manny about this is that makes no difference whatsoever in any of these funds thinking, I these downgrades by analysts valuation just roll my eyes buyers, simply them care. They're not going to stop. 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98 - Australian GP Prerace 2020

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98 - Australian GP Prerace 2020

"Get All crosses a frog in a sock. The road tribes of arrived so chuck a sticky and crack ontinue. Because everybody's got a fair shake at the sauce bottle. I can't deal with this whole season of this. There's no way I'm going to save money already canceled. Messiah I have one gas about speed racecars that by the way is Australian for. Don't be upset. The trucks have arrived so take a day off and open a beer. Because everyone's got a fair chance to win. Well happen on his true. We are going ahead with a race but you know. I guess we'll see I have to stop. I have to find another term. That's not when the rubber hits the road because I keep. It's an accidental idiom. Well we will see after this weekend. How close the puck truly is okay. That is Danny O'Dwyer drew scanlon. Also joining US ROB's acne. How are you rub ready to go racing so ready? I feel like time has slowed down. Were just it's there on the distance? It's not getting any closer but time does march on we will eventually get to the Grand Prix. I could not be more excited if you are new to this podcast. Welcome to this crazy circus. If you're a new Formula One itself we recommend listening to our preseason primer episode just a few episodes old which are soums no prior knowledge and gives the lowdown on how this works and who everybody is so if you WANNA go back and listen to that episode ninety six also. This show is supported entirely by audience at Patriots DOT COM Slash Shift F. One where every month we release bonus podcasts about documentaries and films on Video Games Primers for the recent series and a lot of weird stuff. So if you'd like to support the show and get access to all that head a patriot dot com slash shift f. one or click the link in the show notes Danny Patriot update for us. Yes sir I mean. We've been talking about for the past couple of weeks past couple of months kind of figuring out what we're going to do this year whether or not we're GONNA do the same as last year. Or Mix it up at in new flavor We're doing the latter. We're going to have an answer in the next couple of days as check our twitter youtube channel for that as well but The sort of under on it is that the regular thing. We've always done which is having loads of bonus podcasts. Every year every month an extra podcast for a patron's only at five dollars. We're GONNA keep that at Bo. We're GONNA make a new Tier. We're going to be adding a bunch of video stuff as some kind of you know people who've been with us for a long time. We were doing stuff before. Would video on on this podcast. Willa. It'll be similar to that. Perhaps we're going to keep a lot of this stuff public on our youtube channel and Maybe we'll have some extra bonuses in terms of places where people can chat all speaking. Not Very vaguely but There'll be an answers on this Pretty soon we're we're trying to hit that one thousand patron mark because we did promise. If we hit it as patrons we'd we'd get together and go for a race on a real circuit in a real car. Well I mean we'll race real car. I'm not sure if we're able to race all three of us at the same time. That's that's sort of the dream. We're at about eight hundred twenty or so. I'M GONNA have to start doing research on that. 'cause I don't actually know how to do that all I know is I think they'll let me drive my Mustang on Saana on certain times. Okay of the year so fingers crossed. Maybe can all jump in that one and just pay for a new pair tires from your something there. You Go All right well today. We'll be discussing the upcoming Australian Grand Prix. But first we've got a fair bit of news that we have not hit Ferrari's engine seems to have caused quite a bit of a stir. Rob You've been reading up on this a little bit vague star. Well now it's not just an engine issue. It's a F one issue. It is an issue with the relationship for our is generally had with the sports governing bodies and the way other teams tend to view that relationship so I think last time we discussed where things left off which was that the FAA Ferrari came out with a kind of weird statement. Which was that? The matter is closed. They had reached confident. A confidential settlement and as part of that Ferrari was going to help the F. One figure out how to monitor fuel mix and engines and which was kind of weird like I think we talked about. It seemed like something very close to an admission. That Ferrari had done something illicit if not necessarily illegal that F. One wasn't happy with and as part of the deal Ferrari was going to help them. Close the loopholes as well as deal some like offer some other terms So in the past week A number of teams seven F. One teams Signed a statement of protest about the confidential Or over the confidential deal and the issue seems to be the. The teams are pretty much recent inclusion. We did which is that. They're convinced something happened with How Ferrari handled fuel-flow last year and the reason they're so convinced is because they pushed like it is other teams complaining that pushed the FAA to investigate what was going on with the fuel flow in the Ferrari power unit and this all happened last year. When Ferrari had unbelievable straight-line speed and they seem to have an incredible amount of pace. That engine just seem to be unbeatable and then the complaints came in and then the Ferrari engine began to look less dominant and it was the teams themselves. The start pushing for this investigation and so I think coming even coming out of last season. The teams were pretty. Well certain that there was something Sort of against the rules against the spirit of the roles. That Ferrari had done With fuel-flow Shenanigans. Yeah and it seems like their reaction to this deal struck between the FAA and Ferrari was kind of not necessarily the straw that broke the camel's back but it was a it was one of those things that this has been such a long standing sore point for a lot of other teams and F. One that immediately they went from zero to sixty right they were. They were immediately passed Basically McLaren Mercedes racing point red bull Renault Alpha Centauri and Williams whether they have in common. They don't run Ferrari engines. They said we. The teams surprised and shocked by the statement of Friday twenty February regarding inclusion investigation into the scooter. Ria Ferrari Formula One power. Unit in international sporting regulator has the responsibility to act with the highest standards of governance integrity and transparency there months of investigation that were undertaken by the FAA only following queries raised by teens we strongly object the FAA reaching confidential settlement agreement. The Ferrari to conclude this matter Therefore we hereby state public shared commitment to pursue full and proper disclosure. Better new show the sports streets. All competitors fairly equally It'd be for the fans participants and the stakeholders up one. That last part look come on like come on like you didn't have a fans fans are used the shit. Don't worry about for the house anyway. Yeah that's very like a moralizing. High touch them right. This is politics and I think what this comes down to. Is that a lot of formula. One governance has involved reaching. Will you call like gentlemen's agreements You know behind the scenes that was certainly the Bernie ecclestone a model that is kind of for shockingly longtime that is how business was conducted in Formula One But nobody has the moral authority. And the control. That Bernie had nor are a lot of the people that Bernie did business with a lot of the wheeler dealers. A lot of them are gone now too and I think the entire thing is a bit more on like is at least tried to be on a more Professionalized footing. And so that's kind of a sign of the Times. It's funny. I am a kind of a little bit surprised about Vega. You know everything has been considering like this sort of you know. Ross brawn has been quite Openness you know the problems with the sport and the way they went about fixing them and like even when we're getting dancer the the you know conversations around how the money was being split off like stuff was pretty transparent in a way that we weren't really used to and a lot of this just see like we don't really know it you get the feeling when you read the the story when you read the letter that they wrote and also the FAA's response that like everyone knows what they're talking about but nobody's saying yes. Yeah I mean the FAA even said in their statement as a response to the teams writing this letter. This is their own statement. The FAA was not fully satisfied but decided that further action would not necessarily result in a conclusive case due to the complexity of the matter and the material impossibility to provide the unequivocal evidence of a breach. So they themselves are like we know something was going on. But we couldn't prove it so that I guess is why they settled confidentially. I don't know it does a non-confidential settlement mean that Ferrari would have had to expose some proprietary technical stuff is that maybe or if even if they say like if they if they put a name to us then it becomes material if they say what it was then suddenly everyone will say. Oh that's what we're doing and then maybe there might be recourse for you know a lower team to argue that they should have gotten second or something like that. I like. That's the only thing I can think is that that it's messy and by by talking about or saying what they think was going on or what they they. They're pretty sure what's going on. It's as bad as saying that's what happened in many ways legally. Yeah they can't prove it the theory that Dita rankin over race fans dot net Proposed via the source proposed Rankin Was that Ferrari was running oil-based inter fluids And the seep into the fuel mixture under pressure And basically give you a little boost to engine power So I guess that like that is the theory as to what the new technology with the loophole was that Ferrari was exploiting But it does sort of seem like the teams that dimed out for Ra. Basically know what happened. everyone's pretty clear about like what was transgressed and everyone's upset that nothing was really done about it especially because this is this is the other part of this if you go back to the history of the sport would last like fifteen twenty years the FAA can be incredibly draconian with other are Friday right. Like you don't have to go that far back What was it a one hundred million dollar or one hundred million Euro fine against McLaren for a transfer of technical knowledge that a lot of people feel was pretty innocuous and it was largely Ferrari making a big deal out of it that Gut McLaren you know the basically the elected the F. One equivalent of the Electric Chair That year and so that's the other thing is there's always this double standard with Ferrari right with Ferrari. It's still old school. F One Ferrari F one F. One is whatever we whatever we do We mustn't upset the Maranello operation Everyone else you better keep your nose. Clean you to play by the rules. Ferrari you know they have a direct phone line to God and I think this was the in like this is just another case of that sort of being codified and teams are sick of it and I don't. I don't know what the FAA was supposed to do here a short of you give Ferrari a massive penalty You you open it up and let everyone see what's going on Which doesn't seem unreasonable. But this is a thing that only engineers really would have understood. I don't know how would have played out if If they had done that in fried appeal the decision. There's a sort of related issue not well unrelated issue but the same sort of thing happening in the run-up to to Australia here. Red Bull has and this is how this this works right. It's not like I mean the. Faa does have inspections but typically what happens is one team will notice something about another team and then not say that. Hey Faa Mercedes. Doing something wrong. They'll say hey. Faa what's what's actually the rule here like in this weird. Do this right. Yeah so toby gruener a reporter at Auto Moto Sport ooh In Germany says that Red Bull has questioned the legality of Mercedes rear brake ducts. The reacted by sending out a new technical directive. Td Zero one four slash zero to clarify. What is allowed? This forces Mercedes to make modifications to avoid trouble at Melbourne. They can keep their weird airplane driving wheel. Oh Yeah for sure okay. Well that's because they talk the directly and boy wouldn't it be embarrassing for the FAA to go back on that now yeah Yeah I mean this is. It's all part of the rich pageantry. Yeah I agree speaking wild next year. We think this is what it's like this. Just think about what's going to happen. When the new wrecks in gotTa find is going to turn up again didn't Ross brawn say that he he brought in some like game testers basically to try to subvert the new twenty one rules. That's amazing and then closed loop holes that way race employing hackers to find holes in your system all right speaking of stuff before racist. Bahrain will happen in light of the corona virus with a twist The Bahrain circuit will not allow any spectators into the stands for the track. So we will have much like a lot of other sporting events going on around the globe a race with no audience which we can bring Korea back was that Korea was wildly under attended totally. And I'm making the same point of China which like always had doesn't that hold like two hundred thousand people and like fifteen thousand turnoff or something. I mean there are others. Grandstands were covered in tarps and logos put on them which always seems damning. It's like the Oakland Coliseum with top thing that just has a big raiders flag on it during as games or I think it's the where the where the saints play the Ceasar all different colors. So you can't tell price like that. Yeah it's crazy at the moment Italy same thing like all the games. The six nations has cancelled a bunch of games. But yeah it's the playing an empty stadiums thing something you get used to in Italian football because usually they. They've done as where they've banned entire fans for season's going to games and that's kind of how it's the I mean there's a there's a history of Some some pretty bad Ultra ultra fans in in Sarajevo with specific aims. And but. Yeah this is. This is going to be interesting note. This was a fairly well attended rice. So Yeah and they did issue refunds. But that's all like plane tickets. You can't get back in hotels stuff. Ross. Brian also did say like you mentioned. Danny that Italy's kind of locked down now I don't have any work is okay though I believe. Yeah my understanding is work between cities and in and out of the country is basically being restricted to work trips or at like serious family trips or something like that okay. They're basically like checking your papers If basically tourism traffic is is a non essential. Travel has been entirely lockdown right. And I think every other like every country will have its own sort of rules on this stuff and I think the way. It is kinda going now and hope. I think one hopes that it continues to go. This way. Is that F. One personnel. Get sort of like advanced. They let the government know that they're coming to this place and all that stuff and they can work it out and not have to like go into a mandatory automatic two week quarantine but still. It's all kind of still up in the air Ross Brawn of formula. One says obviously if a team makes its own choice not to go to a race. That's their decision but where a team is prevented from going to race because of a decision of the country then it's difficult to have a fair competition. This article for Motorsport goes on to say one possible scenario however could be for the race to go ahead but in that case but for it to be a non world championship event so points would be scored. I I think they should lean into it. I think they should absolutely do that. That happens and reverse the grid like make your own race. It Weird fundraise like. I think that will be the idea of them going with the racist audiences. I hadn't really considered that as a solution but I guess it does kind of work. Considering the vast majority of people will obviously be watching Invested in this already right I can see Formula. One being like all right. Well we can't have fans but like we can't just not do this like there's TV rights locked up already. Shipped everything over there Yeah also liking. How many organizers can afford to do this like? That's the thing. Yeah and how many organisers can just be like? You know what we'll run it without Any attendees and we'll we'll must be getting a kickback. Though surely like they must be a Formula One must be paying paying them something to still run us because like Shirley the gate receipts is is like yeah. I mean there's there's probably more to it than that but I don't know how like I. I'm just curious what the financial picture is like Organizer by organizer. Especially because I understand. There's not really a one-size-fits-all Like venue contract right like your places F. One has beaten down the door to get into and they're places that like you know the annual hostage taking of the German ground pray Finally culminated being canceled. This is like a the nature of f one is that it seems like people getting different deals for hosting and F one race Or people or people are just Having different reactions new terms come into effect. But this is the part. I haven't paid a great deal of attention to But it does seem like there's a lot of venue operators who can barely afford to get these things off the ground much less You know run it to an empty of venue totally and if you're going to pick one venue that was going to be able to pay for this thing and had like you know Pa PA deep pockets to be able to do it. You'd you'd pick Bahrain you'd maybe go for Abu Dhabi next but like they'll be fine. It's when we get into the European races whether or not Places like Baku. You really start to ask the question. You know who's WHO's paying for it well. Australia is full steam ahead but this news article published Motorsport Dot Com. A restaurant next to the Albert Park. Track is at the center of our Corona Virus scare hitting your seven year old Australian man who has since been diagnosed with code. One thousand nine hundred attended a function there on Saturday cool. I mean old Social Butterfly Bastard. I know I couldn't do stay at home. You've had seventy years of partying Yeah it's just. It's so hard to talk about this thing and to try like I put up a poll on my twitter to see like what people thought. How many races? What we end up having by the end of the year and it was a pretty even split between like you know. Broken up into like fights at ten ten to fifteen two quarters. It's so hard sitting at this end of the story. Where either in the first chapters of a horrific you know global event will define the next decade. Or maybe we're past the curve for a lot of countries and and hopefully it'll slowly slowly got better but it's just like in one way. It seems silly to be talking about is in these terms. Because you know who knows. In a year's time we might look back and go. Wow what a what a strange you know a way to to chat around this like very you know dangerous thing that happened or many ways. Maybe everything will just be ground than their run all the races empty where they have to. It's just so to everything about this. Just feels like I wish. I know where it was going. What yeah well. Speaking of oil rich nations Robert next news story here. We're getting rid of gases. Are we finally going green on me? As part of F one's carbon-neutral Initiative and support for green energy. They signed a deal with Saudi Aramco. So they signed a long term sponsorship with like the biggest oil company in the world. So that's an odd look Saudi Aramco is regarded as one of the biggest carbon-emitting in the world now admittedly gins a lot of this is because when you're talking about oil companies a lot of the terrible numbers around them are people folding in downstream use like Saudi Aramco produces the oil sales at people who then do a whole bunch of shit with it and Saudi Aramco's lund who like ultimately those missions are charged back to nevertheless. Yeah they just pick the tobacco. They're not they're not telling you to smoke it exactly like I mean it's I think it does get a little too reductive to say that it's like just fossil fuel companies because part of it is also like there is demand nobody is really like people are fulfilling demand not really giving a damn about Where the where. The energy is sourced. What what the sources? So I think there there's that element of it. But nevertheless oil companies sort of have notoriously bend the forefront of climate change denial trying to undercut cleaner energy solutions and the notion that F. One literally a year after making a pretty like making a big deal out of the fact that they're trying to go green To sign a long term sponsorship deal with Saudi Aramco kind of highlights. How ridiculous the entire initiative is right and sort of how how hollow it is hopefully get paid and stocks Kazaa. It's been a rough week for crude. Yeah I mean that's that's the other part of this right. What what perfect timing to sign this deal with Saudi Aramco? Just as it looks like the bottom might be falling out of the oil industry a little bit And that's probably GONNA work bound but is it's either that or it's economic terrorism against Russia to try and bottom at the market kind of you know the jury's out on what what exactly is going on right now what's going on Danny with video games video game Scott. I thought you'd never ask. I never to talk about video games drew. None of us really in rather I don't know surprising development. I'm excited and surprised by this F. One has appointed frontier. Who are a studio out of the UK who make the leaked video game series at dangerous rather the fans studio David Robin is famously. The crater of elite at the also made a really good Jurassic Park evolution. I believe it's called. It's the The drastic park management gave those like not real time strategy but like Management Sim style. Like zoo tycoon. Taken roller coaster tycoon. I don't think they today's planet coaster which one lady. Yeah yeah yet. It make a lot of these games that are you know either space flight simulators or managing games but they have been brought on by a Flynn to create a new series of official management Sims. And these are separate to the code masters. Formed Games are quote here from raise funds at frontier run by ELITES CREATOR. David has a multi-year exclusive license to publish four F one management games across a range of formats including consoles and pc beginning in twenty twenty two. The Games will be based on its Cobra. Engine used in the two thousand fourteen edition of the series elite dangerous F. One is one of the most popular global sporting franchises in the world says Brabin and we believe the combination of F. I think it's brave and actually I'm seeing Brabin because of F one two brains of molded together Sorry I and we believe the combination of the broncos extensive experience imagine games will deliver fantastic game experience to a wide and varied audience around the world. It's interesting because F. One Management Games have been around. You know. There's there's the mobile game and there's a version on steam as well in the in the past there have been splits between the EA racing games and other official and in further back unofficial management games as well so there. There's always been this sort of Split between the two. It just feels a little bit throwback because so many modern sports games have sort of reabsorbed the management part of their games back into them. So you tend not to guess. They used to be a time starting in the late nineties already thousands where there was a lot of management games around sports and soccer and football manager is probably the one that's still kind of exists and but they used to be way more like football manager has its history in in the same way that prohibition fee for us to have a bottle there was multiple there was three or four different management soccer management games being released a UK at one stage championship matter. Ella Mae Manager was lows of these so used to be a way bigger thing. So it's interesting. I think I could see it working well. I think there's a lot of management stuff that if you put it in the F. One game it it. It's different muscle right. It doesn't feel as it's not the same thing it's like it's like you know playing game of football playing tennis and watching. Thomas. They're the same thing but the actual participation or the way you're doing it is is totally different so I'm excited and it's a good developer. Don't follow games. Frontier know what they're doing a pretty good track record. They have a pretty good track record working with other people's intellectual properties as well but they have a track record of not making management games in the style of a true sports manager. Right like I think. There's there's a big difference between frontier make Diorama games or like in a sandbox managers where we're part they can be very nitty gritty There can be a lot of detail but really what you're there for is to watch the world move and react to the changes you know like dressing park okay like finally got the T. Rex Bam fucking T. REX now. Now wait for something untoward. Happened around that T. rex which is the equivalent like signing Alonzo. Perhaps but I think when you bring up like the steamed management series That are that are out there. That have been there in the past Brown motorsports but like one of the reasons. People get obsessed with like out of the park. Baseball or football manager is because these are games built with a really detailed and statistically supported model of the sport in question right like Football Manager SORTA tortuously is used a sort of a crib for a scouting staff. Similar things with out of the park where you. These games claim to simulate in the sport in a way that the the more archaic counterparts. Don't even come close right like. Mlb The show isn't nearly as convincing and Comprehensive Assem of baseball and the business of baseball in the structure of their contracts As out of the park is what I find interesting here. Is that what? What is the nature of the management? We'd be doing right like I think it's smart for f one to split off the Sim from the management ideas. I think it sucks that somebody. Good management franchises were killed because of exclusivity then didn't make a carve out for management Sims But when I think about what would frontiers version of this look like? We don't really have convincing models for how F. One works as a sport right. What we know is. Do you have a lot of money are you one of these three teams until. I just throw throw resources at it Some my my guess would be. This might look a little bit like a really fancy like really fancy version of the Cairo. Soft Games Remember Grand Prix Story. we'll yeah. Yeah they're great. Yeah I suspect beginning glossy version of those. Yeah I don't think it sorry going. I I see this one of three ways either. It is the spreadsheet style of football manager or the the top down like big strategic decision of a team principal say or strategists. That motorsport manager does or is just F. One tycoon and you're building a circuit and their attracts and people are coming to your Grand Prix. If I was to hedge my I don't think it's going to be a spreadsheet game because that's not they make. They're not sports interactive like. They've never yeah they. They have made games like connect models. You know what I mean like. They've they've they. They're not afraid to lean towards that mainstream person like they make games that are more accessible in the in the way of stuff like the Sims f. One pinata well hopefully not because not literally the Viva Fignon is like one of the hardest management games ever made and it was aimed at children so I think like I love out a nightmare of a game design for the audience. It was supposed to be made for. I think I think frontier are pretty sharp when it comes to making stuff. That's like like they`ve. I'm just looking at games here. They've made a planet coaster scream ride and Thrill Ville those are like three different. Like difficulty of on roller coaster tycoon. They've there was difficu- different stratas of difficulty. And I think they've fine tuned over the past couple of years and making games like planet soon. Zoo tycoon which I think are fantastic so for me. I think it'll probably be. It'll have to have that aesthetic that they've gone for that isometric play. I wonder if you'll be running a factory a lot of time and then going to a race in some sort of way but the focus is on the factory and research and getting the right drivers and training them and it's more that part of us and then the circus is kind of something you go to which. I guess isn't so far from the mobile one's called again mode games. Kite another car software. Yes restoring the story they also made Game Dev story did they that one. Yeah those are those are fun so I don't know I guess time will tell. I think it's cool. I can't think of another studio. I prefer I don't want the sports interactive version of this. You know the Football Niger folks. I've been trying to do that. I know it'd be bad you want. Nfl I just I I would love somebody to look at one and be like you know what I can model all of that and just like have at it and like the or factor but like yeah for Christian Horner. Yeah and like you just learn to begin breaks down because no matter like whatever level you can always turn Williams new championship team inside of three years. 'cause like the system can be mastered well speaking of mastering system. Danny you take us to this system. Sure we're going to the what system has earth and the solar system the SOL system. I guess We're going to a little place. A little corona virus riddled planet. A tiny island in the south called Australia. We've been out the Australian Grand Prix for a pretty long periods. I think it's the second oldest or one of the oldest circa nineteen twenty eight was the first race and and it's it's banned Sarande eyelash. It's it's probably most famous for the older crowd for the eleven year stretch. It was on Adelaide. And what's interesting about? That is the a historically the Australian Grand Prix. It was actually the final race of the season. I think all but one of the years I think they moved one year because of What's that what's that Weird Olympics but only for ex colonial Commonwealth they the Commonwealth Games? We were never invited because we managed to get independence and we. I think one year was moved for that but it was it was always the final race and then when I went to Albert Park they decided to put it at the start of the calendar Sort of five months later and then it was originally at Albert Park since nineteen ninety six and its contract until twenty twenty five am so we're going to be here for a little bit longer and it's a fun track. It's it's a street circuit and a Race Circus there's a lot of the track is actually drivable. Most of the year you can take a road car. Honest doesn't need to be specially kit at or anything Dr Clockwise or anti clockwise. The problem is I think it's a speed limit of twenty five miles an hour. Most of the park it is in a park. It's a park just to in the center of the city by the river and and it has I guess the START FINISH STRAIGHT. I think is the only part of the circuit. That's not actually driving for the rest of the year at its capacity of eighty thousand people and a generally fills at for the whole weekend at five point three kilometers three point nine miles sixteen turns clockwise three D. R. S. owns data the third one. It was four years ago now. And there's a double D r s on the either side of the second and third corner is one in the back stretches well before you sort of dive into the slow that arena before the pit lane and it's a fun track. Drivers seem to seem to really like it. What's interesting about it is perhaps The Hamilton hasn't traditionally done particularly well here at last time. A woman in two thousand fifteen actually Almost one in twenty fourteen that was aired at his car broke down and you may remember the incident where he had to walk back to the pits in his full cash and the security guard wouldn't allow him into the paddock because he didn't have a pass so there's a great clip where he flips up his visor and says. I'm a driver and like literally as this is happening. He has like the helmet wasn't gloves. His boots is full race cash. I'm it's during the rice and the guy was like A. Yeah so he ended up letting in eventually since Yeah so we want the next year Twenty Fifty Nico Rosberg at twenty sixty and then battle got a brace twenty seventeen two thousand eighteen winning us. Of course. Last year of Algeria Bowtie started off his his his positive start to the season last year. It all just. We all got bait and switched totally. Yeah I don't know why this is this year. This is about bodas year so yeah exactly. So if Hamilton doesn't win this week don't think it has some sort of a sign of things does but if he does well maybe maybe we should be worried than for all the other reasons. Some other historical things on this track Turn three down. The bottom of the Whitford straight is where Martin. Brundle had his famous crash before he ran back to the pits and got an a second car was almost identical to the crash. Fernando Alonzo Hodge. I believe we'll be three years ago now. Some great slow motion footage of that one. This is the crash. He got out of the car as quickly as possible so his mother who was watching on television wouldn't be too worried There was a catastrophic Ralf Schumacher crash in two thousand and two which people probably remember seeing his car flipping backwards He think he ran into the back of Baruch. Kello CEO was a as cars retired that year at the start of the race and the other thing that that thousand anti-racist famous for is it was Mark Webber's I drive Australian driver and he managed to get through that crash and retain position pretty well. Did he ended up? I believe it was in a minority and he came fifth so it ended up. It was a fairly impressive drive. I three race deal with them. And then dot sort of cemented his place in F one manage to get a proper drive there. There's a video of photographs of him going up to the podium with Australian flag once the actual podium ceremony had finished Which was quite great. A sort of a mirror to that one is what happened to Daniel Accardo then in his first Australian Grand Prix where he ended up placing. I think it was second and then after the race. Red Bull Right. Sorry you're right. Ya and then it was. After the race they had gone over fuel allowance for the race and he ended up getting I'm not sure if he was D. Cube or lost a couple of. I think he might have been devalued and then so he was on the podium but then they ended up taking that away from him and then going a little bit further. The euro's born nineteen eighty-six where Nigel Mansell famously. Lost Dash to alum process for the championship. He how does I think? It was a suspension failure halfway through the race and then they were worried about the other car or somebody else having problems so they pitted and then that's our prostitute coming first and winning the drivers championship on kitchen. Two constructors as well so Plenty of History in India Australian Grand Prix at that one of course happened that Adelaide. Not Not here. Yeah and it's a fun circus like I said. Three Duress owns for the view. Air Viewer on television. You'll you'll get to know the struck pretty well a lot of the angles. I am very a difference. The sort of for section of the track dominated by straight and then the sort of under underbrush sort of wooded area Then the back-off being around the lake into the the the the DRI sewn and then Arrange a scarring and Stewart and the process. Turn it's a little bit slower As they run up to the star finish again. It's a it's a fun circus. How are we doing for weather? Actually jump the gun here because it can get wet here. It looks like it's a funny one. It probably will rain for practice. Okay but Qualifying and the race look pretty. Low percentage wise like maybe eight percent five percent temperatures seventeen Celsius only sixty three Fahrenheit. So not too bad on qualifying day slightly warmer on race day. So that'll be good for everybody. Wins might be a little windy Thirteen miles an hour or twenty one kilometers an hour on qualifying day and slightly less for race day so yeah overcast not direct sun or partly cloudy so probably probably good good weather to go reasoning. Yeah maybe similar to Barcelona because it was a little bit chillier a slight bit windier than they were expecting or than it usually is. That's I'm here. Yeah we've got the C two C three and C four tire compounds. The middle range of the five tire compounds That is the hard medium and soft respectively. Everyone looks to be taking similar allegations tire. So for those for whom? This is a new concept. You get to decide the car's tires yet. The first of all there are four tires car. Thirteenth Sets. Each driver gets to take into the weekend that has to last them through practice qualifying and the race. And you get to decide. How many hearts mediums and stops you take so that is decided weeks ahead of time but generally every driver takes a whole bunch of sauce a few mediums and then very few hearts saying that's kind of the way it's going here one or two hard tires between one and three medium tires and then either nine or ten soft tires and it's only the recent point cars. Actually that are taking eight soft tyres. Three mediums in into hards looking at. Haas who have had trouble with tires in the past especially at Australia. Oh my God. One hard tire to mediums and ten soft. So I think I think that needs for you kind of just put one hard tire Andrea. I think that's all we have fun on this podcast. We sure do. These are the jokes. We don't have any driver standings to go over everyone's zero which is very exciting and we don't have any leader board news to go on for our fantasy section. Although I did want to just point out that my team is set I've got for step in Perez Ricardo Caveat Magnusson and Mercedes you pick five drivers and a and a team and there are some already fantastic names in the shift f. One official. Oh Yeah Fantasy League by the way. There's always a lincoln notes. If you want to join us it is free. Of course. Kevin has a team called signs of the Times. That's pretty good. That's pretty good. Nick has winnow. Winnow Marlboro dinner should we? Jeff has a team called. Oh Canada okay I got it. Yeah Yeah I got in. Sarah has haas of the rising sun. That's good My friend James Who recently started listening to the podcast. He got an. I think through drive to survive as well. He has a team called ver. Not Stopping wow which I thought was pretty good although I looked at his team and he has George Russell honest now man you got to move the money around and get someone else there. It's not gonNa work again you can. You can join our official league with the code in the show notes. She would take emails. Danny Hey let's take the emails shift IPHONE PODCAST DOT COM or f. One DOT com slash emails. If you're a cool dude at drew you WanNa take this one from John in Portland Oregon? Yes I can or if you're Kuwaiti. Sorry course cool person. Yeah John from Portland Oregon says. Hey shifter's longtime listener first-time caller. Thanks for all you do. You're welcome John Question about tires. Why does Parrilli have a lock on providing the compounds? I know firestone bowed out prior to really. Is that a contract. How often is it reviewed and renewed? Also what is it about the setup that is causing problems with tires that other teams don't seem to have our the races where there were problems are the racists where there were problems races were the drivers out of sync with the rest of the pack? Or is it more of a mechanical problem and keeping the temperature consistent all right so first of all yes? We used to have multiple before my time. There used to be multiple tire Constructors I guess. Two two thousand six was the last time was when Michelin and Bridgestone were were Benson rant and Pirelli has been the sole tyre providers since two thousand eleven and recently renewed their contract to supply from twenty twenty two to twenty twenty three so a four year deal. So that's about how long those contracts lasts but yeah that would be signed with the with forming the one in terms of the Haas question like what was what was their deal tough to know but million million dollar question right yeah. I mean from the way that they talked about it. And the way that other teams to talk about this generation of cars for all the cars there is a very narrow window that the temperature neat of the tire needs to be for your car to be most efficient. And that's because you want your tire to be warm in Tacky so that the car sticks to the ground but not so hot that it degrades and not so cold that it's just a you know effectively a piece of ice. So there's a really narrow range and Haas I think out of everyone had the narrowest range and why that was. The case was the big the big question for them. So you could. You could sort of see this. Play out where. Their car was working as intended during qualifying where they could carefully dial in with their out laps. How hot their tires needed? To BE STRAIGHT UP. The warmers mind. You yes. Straight OUTTA. Tire warmers but when you're out for you know two hours on a racing circuit you don't have a lot of luxury. And then they subsequently plummeted so up in Asia question. Rob You WANNA take this one from Doug in Tokyo sure Doug writes. Hey Danny Andrew and rob cuts on the discussion. Last week in the testing of sudden wanted to add context. The cost of shipping. And why might be smart to rationalize and reduce the amount of cargo ship for the F? One traveling circus a major sponsor and supplier services for the World Endurance Championship is Dhl have some graphics and press releases about what goes into moving the WC around for thirty three cars. They move one hundred twenty tons of cargo. Jerez that does not include the nearly the amount of team motorhomes setup as Formula One for the racist outside of Europe. This logistics challenge is massive when the round set for Brazil in February was cancelled. There were only a few locations considered for an alternate race because of the Shipping Logistics Hence why Circuit of the Americas was chosen. Moving cars around is expensive. Doing so by ship is cheapest with emergency shipping's of cars or large cargo containers reaching into six figures. Three team found out when their car missed the ship from South Africa to Australia to go from the Kyle? Nine our last November to bathurst twelve hour this February reducing the emission spewed by container ships is vital reducing. The necessity of air freight is equally important. So moving the calendar for F one around would make some sense Vertu. Another exciting season a speedy racecars in Japanese prefectures. Yeah that's really interesting. I do wonder how much like getting a GT three car from South Africa to Bathurst of across a like when you have those races three months apart is such a different world than the one that the F. One calendar has teams operating. And that's kind of my question is like what is the top speed of a cargo ship sailing around throughout the South Pacific That is GONNA be one of the major hurdles especially because Cardiff elements happening that period But I'm with you in the sense that anything you can do to reduce the amount of air freight seems pretty critical From the standpoint of emissions and it seems like there's probably a lot of the F one calendar is just leaving on the table right and at some point that needs to be rationalized. That gets tougher to do when your calendar is also kind of this hodgepodge of things that were added not really cohesively right like the F. One calendar is product of love compromises and negotiations over the years But it does seem like you know now. The v Ramco deal doesn't make US QUESTION. F One's commitment to Lowering wishes but it does seem like. There's a lot of low hanging fruit here that they could be reaching for. There's an article on Formula Dot Com. That was just posted recently. It's an interview with the Haas race team operations manager. A guy named Jeff Simmons who is basically responsible for packing everything in shipping at two different locations. Personally put into a big Pelican case bubble rock. He says that thirty four tons per team That need to go to each location by air. Eight by see An eight eight tonnes is stuff that that doesn't change right so that's like the garage the the TV screen for the pit wall and stuff like that And he says if you were to do everything by c Formula One would need a sixty three week year. Make it happen. Yeah so my my modest proposal for this you guys think gopher. Nobody's and brainstorming. Airships like Hindenburg. Yes you know. Gilded Age as spore that the idea of the ferrying. Their cars via dirigible has a certain appeal. Especially 'cause he he just drone fly those things and so like that point fuck it loaded with hydrogen. Why don't they think about her? Why don't they just have like tethered balloons where you can watch the race from you know? That's the GOODYEAR BLIMP YOU'RE DESCRIBING. I he wants. He wants barrage balloons. Strewn around the racetrack. Drunk assholes can like watch the race from inevitably fall out of the out of Said Balloon. It's GonNa make the you know national anthem flies real challenging but prevent strafing runs from the Red Baron. It's really important to the circus. Thanks so much ever news. N E mails. We had a lot of emails about this about the logistics. I think it's really grab people's imagination. And we've got a lot of emails from people who had listened to the primer. Her in new to the PODCASTS. Saying thank you for that. So thank you offer your messages and thanks for listening. Yes welcome welcome to this ridiculous circus. And I wanted to pick this one F. Gracie which was Who paid pitched this idea as a new more carbon aware colander to the season using I guess the idea of like different kits of cars as a as the methods through which you could sort of divvy up the amount of stuff the needed to get shipped. So I'm going to let Gracie take they say okay so it's not perfect by any means but when focusing on the different kits of cars that have to travel. This is more efficient than the current setup. The final race calendar would be so. Follow me here. Australia Sochi Canada. Sorry Hungary Canada Singapore Silverstone US Austria the US Lee Azerbaijan Vietnam. Monaco Netherlands Mexico France China Belgium Brazil by rain. All the bee's together Spain Japan and finishing in Abu Dhabi as we do so the logistics behind this being where the races are divided up into these five kits. Kits would be. You'd have Australia. Singapore Vietnam China Japan together Brazil Mexico. Us and Canada UK Netherlands and Belgium and Spain France Monaco Italy Austria Hungary and then Russian Azerbaijan. Bahrain and Abu Dhabi together again by no means perfect and arena only works if the parts don't need to be transported back to their headquarters after each race and if they abandoned the idea fancy motorhomes they car around but it's definitely more efficient than the current system. Sago five kits. Keep them all together. And then you can sorta like Ben Serandon between the races. What are we think of that? I mean I love it if you could get that going with every one of those different circuits Sweeney Bernie. Back strong arm. Everyone I like the idea of there just being a bunch of cars lying around at circuits waiting to turn up. Maybe rent the mat or something. I love the idea of Bernie being the one to sort out like this. This damn carbon inefficient calendar. You wouldn't deviate the entire circus. Wildly off course to change him nickel. Somebody dropped that. That's how we got here or any. Bernie's world he doesn't he's he's topping out in the next decade elise. He's he's not he's not too worried so I think he'll he'll be like Castro. Just go if you'd like to email us about your your Your carbon-neutral plans. You can hit us up at Shift podcast gmail.com F. One dot com slash e mails. You hit US up on twitter at shift at one. Podcast address gallon. That's add Daniel Dwyer at at ROB's acne. That's US around the Internet. Should we take it around the World Denny? It's time to raise events on this calendar now. The World Rally Championship is in Mexico. The supercars are supporting for me. The one this weekend Which will be fun. The Gander Mountain trucks are at Atlanta Motor speedway along with the xfinity series Georgia or the city of Atlanta one under under water. The indy-car season also starts this weekend. The firestone Grand Prix of Saint Petersburg at the Alberta witted airport Saint Petersburg Florida. Okay slightly warmer the NHRA around three. They're already underway there. Gainesville for the L. E. Motor oil. Gator nationals excuse me on me like the Yes alligator. We got ness car. O Ma. That's right we're already around five a also in Atlanta for the folds of honor quick trip five hundred folds folds like Ben folds it actually is Google. That's now is sponsoring this race or piano folded American flags in the back of mountain truck. Okay yeah that's what I figured. What was it. It's it's okay. Can you go other formula? One part of this weekend. Maybe Thursday march twelfth at nine PM Eastern time on. Espn news is practice. One practice to the following day at one. Am Good Depression. Ours is at its most real. I've just realized that daylight savings is going to make this even harder. Oh yes practice. Three is Friday March Thirteenth at eleven. Am ON ESPN news. Fall by qualifying Saturday at two. Am ON ESPN two P. P. Three was eleven. Pm Yes it's making sure they're not having a gap between the two. There must be a Typo here. God I hope so. Could you imagine we practice? And then just for NAP Siesta. It must be eleven pm. Eleven PM is practice three and then Qualifying is Two Am Gosh on ESPN. Two And then we've got the race Sunday March fifteenth at One. Oh five am on E. S. P. N. in oral flies featured in cover it up. Oh God Danny Rick demolished car. On God's I've never is the fastest retirement like except for like a nonstarter that must be the fastest crush. Yeah he's going into the back of someone who hasn't who hasn't pulled away right right. Yeah so far. Yeah speaking records actually Kimmy only needs ten Grand Prix starts to beat Rubens. Barrichello as washed most laid back driver and Hamilton can beat Schumacher's ninety one wins rice. Yeah and he can also Kasumi. Didn't have Choubey at six to me. It's kind of tie that champion. Yeah speaking of Rubens. Barrichello He Giancarlo physicality and Jack Aitken from Formula. Two will also be driving in a a support series called the five thousand. That's really stupid. Name appeared to be cars that are in between formula three and formula to in terms of horsepower. Okay so Look after that. They couldn't call it like the old geezer cough or something. Now it's like it's like Australia's INDYCAR. Okay they've already got their own. Nascar and supercars and rugby or Football Games football version. They have dropped bears all the classic sports pictures. I'm sorry we went the entire podcast while I guess you started the podcast with lots of I don't know what you call where the caller xenophobia but it's not really I'm not scared look overcome with the anthrax recently and I can't get that accent at my co called out of podcasts. Let's get out of here. Okay if you'd like to support this show you can do pitcher com slash shift F. One boy I'm excited for this season. I can't wait to see if what we think is going to happen. Happens on track like the first race of the seasons and OS awesome to see how people slide into qualifying is going to be the real test. Right yes is going to be a really really interesting. Mercedes GonNA use the DAS system. Who knows how that is going to shake out? Yeah what what are you looking for to any? Yeah I mean it's red bull just really seeing how close they are to Mercedes whether or not. We're going to be in for a fight. This era nausea. And it's going to be interesting would see where Ferrari shakeout but honestly it's not made. Pacman I ca. I can't wait to see wherever ends up in that shuffle like? There's a lot of is on on on racing points and there's a question mark over Alpha It'll just be fun to look at Hoss. Like all those. There's not a team monash that you're not like even Williams. You're like come on guys to do better. You know host pitstops man can watch very closely. Rob Yeah I WANNA see Haas's lap lap overlap pace Across like full racing stents. Because I am really curious if they solve their tires you at all. I think racing point is going to be surprising. I think surprised a couple of fronts. I think they're gonNA be faster than people think I think one of the top three is going to be slower than people are expecting rice. Yeah could be could be. It's exciting. It's the best part of the year. It's like all the potential before crushing reality. Dawns on us in. A couple of anything is possible. I am curious like do you think if this season starts out poorly for Ferrari Do you think Benito is around to shepherd the team into the new era? All right you here. I'M GONNA I'M GONNA put on my ten flash and answer that question to you if Ferrari tanks this year do they use the corona viruses and excuse to not go to races. Wow okay I see your conspiracy and I raise you raw. Wow that's dark cut it would. It could be a way to save your career right taught we shall see well That's it for us. Have a good race weekend. Everyone we will see you all next week our.

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Episode 90: Why the Next Bernie Madoff Will Be Impossible to Spot

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Episode 90: Why the Next Bernie Madoff Will Be Impossible to Spot

"Broadcasting from Baltimore, Maryland and all around the world. You're listening to the stands berry investor. Our? Tune in each Thursday on I tunes for the latest episodes of the stands berry investor. Our sign up for the free show archive at investor our dot com. Here's your host, Dan ferris. Hello. And welcome everyone to another episode of the stands berry investor. Our I am your host, Dan ferris, and the editor of extreme value, which is a value. Investing service published by Dan's berry, research, are we have a really good show lined up with a great guests for you today. So let's get into it. Okay. Today's rent is actually going to be a little shorter than normal. However, I have a special two for one deal. You're going to get a second rant of short went also later in the program around the time when I do the mail bag. So the first rant. I'm gonna call prioritizing people and philosophy. Yes. It sounds very high brow. But it's not I promise. So a couple of weeks ago on episode eighty eight of the podcast, we interviewed grant Williams from real vision TV and you know, from just hanging around the financial markets for decades, and and doing lots of cool stuff too. And we got a lot of great feedback about that episode. If you haven't listened to it definitely tune in grant has interviewed people who like like, Anthony deed who never deed never did an interview before that. And you know, I'd love to have him on the show. But it wouldn't surprise me. If he never did one after it. So during that discussion with grant Williams, I was reminded of a Twitter post who's author. Unfortunately, I've not been able to track down so for now, I'm sorry. It's still anonymous. But when I find out who it is I'm going to credit them, and the Twitter post was brilliant. I thought and I've thought about it and thought about it. And and I'm gonna talk about it as often as I think is necessary including right now. So the Twitter poster said when people are evaluating a fund or a manager, you know, an investment manager or or mutual fund or hedge fund or something or even a public company that they're thinking about buying further portfolio. They tend to prioritize in this order, though, prioritize performance usually recent performance, then the strategy used to get that performance. Then the philosophy behind the strategy and only then do they start wondering about the. People behind the philosophy of the strategy, the poor and and the Twitter post burned itself in my brain. Because the person said, you know, something it's exactly the opposite in real life of what you should do what you should do is. I get to know the people then get, you know, the people allocating your capital in whatever for get to know, the people get to know their philosophy of life really and investing to then get to know the strategy. They're using that that you're proposing to put money into with them. And then evaluate whatever performance information. They can give you. And I mentioned a moment ago. Anthony Eden of eight oh, vice holdings who grant Williams discussed a couple podcasts ago. And if you go to ADL, vice holdings website, you will find information about the philosophy and to an extent also the strategy and a little bit about the performance and less about the people because you know, there's some information about the people there is some information, but you know, deed in is a very humble kind of guy. And I think that's a decent example of just a place to go that where these things are prioritized just about right? So that's that's that's the rant. That's that's really the core of it. And I don't wanna go in too long about this. Because it might dilute the message when you're looking to put your money with someone or by someone's research, or really in the most important thing is when you're looking at someone to allocate your capital, whether it's hedge fund guy, or even you know, if you've got some program with a broker who's going to allocate your capital, or or any anything like that a public company, you know, you put your money in Berkshire Hathaway, you wanna know something about Warren Buffett, right? Any any of these cases anybody's going to allocate your capital get to know the person forget about the recent performance prioritize that last pyro ties finding who the heck is this person. I. And if you read my newsletter, extreme value, this idea has kind of gotten into my head and won't go away. So, you know, the first thing I tend to talk about when we wrote about well, I don't like to give away picks because people pay a lot of money for the newsletter. But we the the companies that we've written about recently, I've tried very hard to dig into the person's past the the main capital, allocators tasks, and and learn something and share something important about the person. What did they do before they were Aliquo? How do they grow up? What did they do before they were allocating capital? What did they where did they go to school how they get the idea to be in this particular business etcetera etcetera? And then of course, then after you know, that stuff then think about their philosophy investing not what they're doing with your money. But why they're doing it? There is a guy. There's a guy on YouTube. His name is Simon cynic S. I N E K. And he's got a great presentation. And if you just go on YouTube and type sign Senate, this is the presentation that comes up. I I don't know what it's called. But it doesn't matter you'll find it if you just type his name when you too, and he's got this great presentation that speaks to the prioritization of philosophy over these other things, and he talks about marketing, you know. And he says most people say, you know, we have this product. It's really great. You know, why don't you buy it? And Simon says, none unindo that's not how really great products and companies operate any uses the the example of apple and how they. Before you know, the product they always seem to wanna tell you. Why why they're doing what they do? And again, once you know, why which is kind of a philosophical question. It tells you more about the people tells you more about who you're dealing with. And of course, with apple, you know, they they had this this legendary guy in Steve Jobs in founded the company and and gave birth to the philosophy of insanely great products and insanely great customer experience at cetera. Okay. So then after you know, about the people in the philosophy them what he did. Well, then you want to know about the strategy. So if you've learned enough about me and my philosophy of investing. Then you say, well, what is this newsletter? Dan rights, you know, it's extreme value. It's value investing museo value investing hasn't done. So well of less years. Yeah. But danced on okay. Right. So that strategy and performance, you're you're kind of you're you're actually d- prioritizing strategy and performance compared to people into law Sophy and do this. When you look at every public company that you might choose to invest in or any situation where you're putting capital to work with somebody else in charge. I'm gonna leave it there. Okay. Shorter than normal rant. I'm gonna leave it there. Prioritize people then philosophy than strategy, then performance, and I think you'll make a lot better investing decisions. And that after all is our mission. We're trying to help you become better investors. You. All right. That is this week's rant right into feedback investor our dot com. Tell us what you think. Let's get on with some news items right now, just a few. And it's an interesting thing, we we actually our producer. Justin, gave me these news items this week as he does most weeks, and I look through them. And I prioritize them I thought, you know, something there's news about the beginning of corporate life, and there's news about creative destruction and political events ending some corporate lives, and the the beginning of corporate life for Levi's as a public company is is coming up leave is the jeans people, you know, the clothing company has filed the initial paperwork for an initial public offering for the second time, they Republican they went private back in nineteen eighty five and they're planning to use the money from the IPO to seize opportunities where where else in emerging markets like Brazil and China. And they think they're gonna raise between six hundred eight hundred million with the entire company valued at around five billion, and I'll be real curious to get a look at the financials of of leave is because you know, you wonder how we're living in a time of of creative destruction of a lot of retailers and even some brands and things and it's a difficult time. And I'm curious to know how they've done the last several years, and and what it looks like from the inside out. And of course, I said, you know, some of the news is also about the end of of the corporate life cycle and. And yet another retailer has bitten the dust PayLess shoes. Files for bankruptcy for the second time in two years. I think they call that chapter twenty two their second chapter eleven and they're closing all twenty one hundred PayLess shoe stores. So no, more PayLess shoes. And you know, when you when you look at it. I mean, I have a list here of all these retailers whose who filed over the past few years, David's bridal performance. Bicycle, Sears mattress firm. Samuels jewelers national stores. Brooke stone heritage home group. Rockport? I have rock ports or my feet right now nine west Clare stores. Bon ton charming, Charlie toys, R us arrow, souls perfume, mania, true, religion, Gymboree rue21 pays palest the first time around Gordon's gander mountain AJ Greg radio shacks etcetera, etcetera, etcetera American apparel. We just endless endless destruction in the retail sector. So it's really hard to pick a retailer to buy these days, and and I've tried to avoid doing so as vest her. Also in the general category of stuff related to you know, the the end of corporate life now Honda the Honda Motors not coming to the end of its life. However, their one and only plant in the United Kingdom will come to the end of its life in twenty twenty one. And of course, as soon as I say, this what's the first thought on your mind while Brexit, right? Nope, Honda has it has nothing to do with Brexit. I just find that a little bit difficult to believe. Now, look at Brexit happens which I think it's less likely than any time since the vote to leave the European Union happened a couple of years ago. I think you just far less likely though than the news is kind of winding back around that way. But if it does it'll be pretty bad for a lot of folks in the UK who depend on the that relationship with the continent continental Europe and the rest of the EU you're going to going to lose thirty five hundred jobs at their one and only UK plant closing down in twenty twenty one. So beginning of you know, there's there's IPO there's bankruptcy. They're closing plans and the corporate life cycle goes on and on and on. Okay. It's time to get to our guest. Anna, Henry Kaz. Okay. It's time for this week's guest, and I really can't wait to get to this conversation because it ties right in with my opening rant for this episode. And you'll see what I mean. So our guest is Diana. Henry GIS, Diana. Be Henry Cas is an award winning financial journalist associated with the New York Times for more than twenty five years. And she's the author of a first class catastrophe the road to black Monday the worst day in Wall Street history released in September twenty seventeen she's also the author of the wizard of lies Bernie Madoff and the death of trust a New York Times bestseller, and she's written three other books on business history over her intrepid career as an investigative journalist missin Rica's has covered and uncovered some of the greatest scandals of US financial history star. With the Abscam political corruption probe of the nineteen seventies. And continuing through the Enron bankruptcy in two thousand two in two thousand five she would say Pulitzer finalist for a series of articles, exposing the financial exploitation of young soldiers by insurance and investment companies work that also won her a George Polk award and Harvard's Goldsmith prize for investigative reporting while she became a Pulitzer finalist again as a member of the New York Times team covering the US financial crisis of two thousand eight. Wow. Wow. Double while. Please welcome, Diana. Henrikus? Welcome Diana and much. Thank you for that, very kind introduction. It it pays to have very talented colleagues. And I always have at the time. I, you know, I I don't know why I'm not more familiar with your work. I can't wait to finish this book. I've started the wizard of lies, and it's really good. It reads almost like it's like a really detailed novel. And it's and it's it's very exciting stuff all made out victims wish it had been fiction, but unfortunately, for them and really for all of us. It's all too true. Because this the problem of Ponzi schemes, as you know, and it's just it's stubbornly difficult to a radical these crimes of trust as I call them. And they they remain a perpetual risk for investors. It's really hard to figure this out before it gets going. You can't prevent these things. You can discover them and prosecute them. But you really can't prevent them. Kenya challenging it. Now. One of them nor frustrating aspects of the mate off case, of course, was that regulators did attempt to investigate him three times and botched every effort in some cases through lack of resources in some cases through lack of experience and in every case through lack of imagination. They just could not imagine that this admired trusted respected, Wall Street figure could possibly be a crook. But that's that's the insidious things about Pontius games. The only people who can run them are admired, trusted, respected figures. You know, some some fifty guy, you know, in a cheap. Sued is never going to lure you into these scheme only in admirable, trustworthy, people can do that. And that's what makes it so hard to prevent them. I think there are some steps that there's some self help steps that investors can do. And I think there were some regulatory efforts that could have been made still could be made that would protect us to some degree. But they are they are difficult crimes. One of the points. You made in your book. Was the sort of? Well, you made it implicitly over and over again, the reputation versus red flags there were all these red flags all the time and they came so close to catching him a couple of times in balked. Because ultimately, there would be some SEC report or something or the FBI or someplace where they'd say. Well, we just can't believe that guy his reputation would do this, blah, blah, blah, and it hard to say it kinda fault people for trafficking Hellman like Bernie night on. I mean, we I. Can I will tell you that that human beings are kinda hard wired to trust each other? And I can see from an evolutionary standpoint how that would have been really important when you're putting together to Neo the hunting team to go at up out after the woolly mammoth it really helps if they trust each other to to fairly share the the the kill. But the fact that we are default position is to trust one. Another specially people who look and sound a lot like ourselves that leaves us potentially vulnerable to the the sociopaths who will use that trust to rip us off it. It's always a risk. But you know, the the alternative is not don't trust anybody. That's what's so difficult. We can't just say you trust. No one or modern commerce comes to a halt and modern banking comes to a halt. And what a hideous society. That would be the live in anyway. So it's important that we figure out a way that we can sustain the trust. That's necessary. One of the ways that investors can do that is a is to simply ensure that the investment managers they use the investment advisers they use. Maintain their account with an independent third party custodian it's kinda complicated measure, but but an independent third party custodian is almost you. You know, fail insurance against upon these scheme is a good practice to just be sure as an individual you're doing that. And then from the regulatory standpoint, I frankly, think regulators need to be a lot tougher on banks as our first line of defense against Ponte's games because as you could see from wizard wide if Bernie Madoff hat and had a Bank account. He would not have been able to do what he did every Ponzi schemer has to have a Bank account and uses that Bank account in in pursuit of his crime. So Bank before the banking business could be an early warning wine of defense as you were saying earlier to stop these crimes instead of you to pick up the pieces after they've they've been exposed well bankers are in a position to do that. And you and I may not be so I would like to see. Much more made of the Bank regulatory process as a tool against Ponzi schemes. You know? You Braise an interesting point because at one point in the story at all these huge banks J P Morgan Chase HSBC CitiBank Florida's Merrill, Lynch. They were actually offering made off linked derivatives derivatives linked to Bernie Madoff, no phony performance. So I don't know. I don't know Diana, should I really trust these people. That's one of the reasons that some of those banks. Patriots. Daniel civil penalties in the aftermath of the made off case. But that demonstrates a little bit of what I was also getting at with my book on the nineteen eighty seven crash, Dan. And that is how how financially complicated and in connected. Our our financial lives are today. I mean, you may think that you're the two don't have anything to do with derivatives okay to be derivatives. I don't invest in them. I don't have anything to do with them. And yet made off victims even though they move or not investing in derivatives. The creation of these Bank sponsored derivatives tied to birdie made off helped pump more money into his scheme and help keep that scheme going longer. So in effect, they did have a stake in how derivatives work. They just didn't know it. So that the modern world. Makes it very difficult for you to understand what faultlines you're standing on. If you know what? I mean, you you you may think oh, I don't have anything to do with that. Or I don't I'm voiding those risks. But if you're put into a a an overall financial system that is bone to those risks as we were in nineteen eighty seven then you're going to feel the impact of them, even if you did not entirely take that risk on. That's a great point. And it's I only dipped into the book first-class catastrophe that you'd mentioned about the eighty seven crash, but the point that I did glean from it is what you just said that was the first modern crash, and I never looked at it this way before I read read a little bit of your book that was the first modern crash where where the we learned about this thing that we've come to know very well called systemic risk and how it's all tied together. And you light a match at one end and it explodes at the other. And and that is now the world we live in every every event since then has been of now on the end, I stay in the book. It was unlike any previous crash and every subsequent crash has been like it. It was the first of the subsequent when and what made it so unique cutting contrast to the previous ones was just as you said it wasn't a crash in one market. It was a crash that affected every market every regulator. He even more all around the world. So this is a a a novel experience for us to find that you know, the storm didn't just hit and one little place. I mean, you may have a d- bust or we have a stock market crash or we have a real estate crash or or we have a banking crisis. But eighty seven we had all of those things they were all connected with one another real estate because bonds were being sold financed by real estate mortgage backed securities where a brand new thing. So he opened the door to us. But it actually showed us, Dan, really changes that had already occurred that we weren't aware of it wasn't like everything just happened overnight. And then we had the crash these were changes that had been developing since the late seventies into the early nineties. The advent of these gigantic pension funds as stock market investors. The advent of derivatives that tied the cash market for stocks. To the derivatives markets in Chicago the advent of automation, which radically speeded up the pace at which trading could occur and the kind of trading that could occur. I mean, the granddaddy of all the algorithms. We see in the stock market today. Arose in the very few years right before the eighty seven crash, and you had this balkanized fragmented regulatory system where each regulators kinda regulating his part of the elephant, you know. I regulate the knee. You regulate the ear, and nobody really have thority and disability for the market as a whole. So we all knows destroyed. Our our financial system on black Monday eighty seven, but we haven't done a lot to fix those problems since then we've been kind of going on a wing and a prayer until two thousand eight which should have been a real serious wakeup call that we had to fix some of these problems. Some of them were addressed not all. All of them, very, well, some of them still haven't been addressed. Which is why I still kind of bang on the table that we need to learn more from black Monday than we have. What what what could we possibly do? This this financial systems global financial system that we live in that you point out is so interconnected through so many different instruments in so many. Trading venues, do you really think it's possible? I mean, do you really fit that the government of all people regulators could could really get their arms around it in a meaningful way. I think the surely some steps that could be done to make us less bone Rable on you know, markets are going to fluctuate. There's no doubt about that. I'm not concerned in in the eighty seven book about whether the market falls. I'm concerned about whether it falls apart and markets that fall apart is what we need to guard against not just markets that go up and down in terms of prices one thing that we could do is have better international coordination and harmonization that would help and we've neglected that tremendously in recent years second thing that we could do is have unified federal regulation instead of having it split among six different agencies and fifty states. Securities regulators insurance regulators in banking regulators. Unlike for every other month economy in the world, we have we do not have a unified financial regulator, plus. Central bank. We have a central Bank the Federal Reserve. And then we've got this whole village of different regulators regulating their little piece of the market we can fix that through legislation. You know, that wasn't handed down on tablets of stone. We can change that. It would take a lot more bipartisan cooperation than when be we've been seeing lately, and hopefully it won't take another desperate financial crisis to push in that direction. But that is something that would make our markets less vulnerable. If you had centralized visibility and centralized authority to act, regardless of which corner of the market the fire broke out in. So that's another thing that would help in the third thing that would help would be a lot more visibility into the kind of financial engineering that increasingly drives our Financial Engines more visibility into the kinds of derivatives that are being developed the kinds of soi. Tops the kinds of of pain instruments that giant institutions are trading back and forth. The kinds of algorithms that they're using. We need regulators who are equipped by their training to understand those factors and they need to have visibility into what's happening. And again that doesn't take a constitutional amendment. It just takes a change in how we regulate these increasingly increasingly interconnected, and I think increasingly fragile marketplaces. It sounds like you're saying that it sounds like you're saying if we, you know, we only had more centralized federal national kind of regulation, and and I I'm having trouble calling to mind a country in rich that exists that no doesn't have a really an obscure Arctic economy, especially lately. Is there is there a plate? Is there a model for this? In other words, is there a model for this type of centralized regulation and Japanese market have honed had the Bank of Japan, central Bank, and the financial ministry. It has the central it regulates its markets through a centralized agency. So the UK has struggled. It has a chance of the check, of course, as it's the Bank of England is its central Bank, rather, and it has created and recreated a centralized enforcement agency over the years, but it is typically not the model that you would have a one regulator for your derivatives markets two or three regulators for your banking system. In addition to the fed and regulator for your stocks and options market, that's different from the reggae. Later for your commodities, derivatives markets, those that breakdown among all of that complex machinery, very nearly was was fatal in nineteen eighty seven now one way could be accomplished accordance better coordination. And that's what federal officials have relied on since eighty seven is trying to coordinate better among all of these moving parts. But you know, we've got a regulatory system designed for different era. Dan, you an era win markets were'more, discreet. We're commodities typically traded among themselves the people trading commodities. We're not trading stocks, the people trading stocks generally were not trading real estate or or bonds, but that's not true anymore. It hasn't been true. For decades. We we have a unified marketplaces. You know that was the the primary fine. Finding of the Brady commission blue ribbon report on nineteen eighty seven crash report that was given to President Reagan. And that is that we have a unified market, but we're still regulating it as if it were a, you know, a fragmented market we need to have a unified regulator for a unified market just to recognize reality you if there's a way to achieve that through through better coordination and cooperation among individual regulators than great. But then you kinda relying on the personalities of the of the folks at the helm when the next crisis hits. So I think we need to kind of think in some fresh ways about how we regulate the modern world. It's you're the as you know, ninety percent of the daily trading on any given day is done by algorithms and not human decision making the human decision making. What was over when the software was written from then on it's a it's a. It's an automatic response to changes in market direction or market volume. So if if we're going to regulate a market, that's that's ninety percent automated as if it were still the market of the nineteen fifties where it was almost one hundred percent human driven. We're gonna get into trouble. And I'm just trying to make people aware of that. And get people thinking about ways that we can avoid the consequences of that. I'm gonna talk about three little episodes that were in the HBO film of your book wizard of lies starring Robert deniro and Michelle Pfeiffer, which I kind of enjoyed watching recently. That was great fun for me. Yeah. I noticed you've got to do scenes with Robert deniro that must've been a lot of fun. Yeah. You know? I thought I would just retire at the top after I finish that. My I make my film debut of opposite, Robert deniro, and you're just doesn't get any better than that. So anyway, there there are three episodes in in the book, and in in the movie that kind of caught my caught my eye, then they speak to a little bit of of why these things happen. Why I'm skeptical about regulatory responses the first episode, and they're not in chronological order. First up was when made off with sentence to a hundred and fifty years in prison with no hope of parole. The judge said something like I'm going to make an example of you. And I thought well, you can make an example of him all you want to. But the fact is there was Bernie Madoff somewhere before him, and they'll be another one after him, and you can't prevent that guy from coming into existence. Maybe you can stop him soon. But you can't really you can only make an example up to a certain point. The second episode. And this is one of the things I learned from your book that I did not know previously. There was a moment when the SEC could have found this thing out in two thousand five simply by asking what securities or how much insecurities were being held in his depository trust account that he gave them the number, and they bulked they called up, and they actually confirmed the existence of the account and all they had to do is ask one more little question, and they didn't do it. And they would have found out that there was there was just not enough in there to to run the giant business. He claimed to be running and the second the third thing. I'm sorry was a little just a little side thing. I noticed in the film where they're at a party a month or two before it all blows up in December two thousand eight. So it was maybe November October only and Ruth and Bernier at a party, and and Reuss. Says oh, my sister wants to give us all her money something like that. And Bernie just very offhandedly knowing it's all falling apart just says, oh, yeah. Sure. No problem, and you can imagine. Of course, you know, this is my sister. So of course, I trust her husband. He's well-known guy. And and when I put these three things together, I think, you know, it it's gonna be really hard to ever catch somebody until after they've started doing this. It's gonna be really hard to train people to get people to the point where, you know, a low level government guy really cares enough to follow through all the way. And I think that's sloppiness. I'm just afraid that that sloppiness that where they didn't look into the DT see account. It's too much part of human nature. I agree with you have frustrating. I likened it to kind of watching the Titanic head for the iceberg watching these SEC investigations unfold. Will you keep wanting to say, no, no steer? Make that phone call check those assets. But I think if you look at the the personnel the the level of training the level of experience and the mistaken stereotypes that regulators had about Ponzi schemes you begin to understand why they didn't make that extra call make that extra step do that extra effort. They and to some extent we had a mistaken image of Ponzi schemes, we think they're always going to involve my in the sky overnight riches. That's one of the red flags. Right. You know, if it sounds too good to be true. It probably is well, a very smart fraud analysts in Pat Huddleston after the mid off case rewrote that he said if it sounds too good to be true, you're dealing with an amateur. Ponzi scheme like made off know that if they want the big money, if they weren't the smart money, they can't make it sound too. Good to be true because these guys will see right through it. They've got to make it sound good enough to be attractive in the among all the other options for investment that are an affluent person has but never so good to be true to too good to be true. So that it would bring their alarm bells and Bernie had that down to a science. He knew just how much to offer in the early part of two thousand eight for this all started Bernie was paying four percent nothing screams Ponzi scheme about a four percent return. So. In is. I'd say it was a failure of imagination but also mistaken impressions about what upon FEMA modern Ponzi scheme. It's going to look like it's not going to be run by some flashy. You know bowl who's insisting you and you invest, right? This minute offers. You fifty percent a month. It's going to be run by a nice, low key guy like Robert deniro. It's going to be run run by somebody who's gonna make just sound attractive enough. And that's gonna disagree. Not only investors alarm bells but regulators alarm bells as well. This is not to excuse the SEC, but just to just to point out that they were prone to some of the very same misperceptions about Ponzi schemes that the rest of us are on the DT C accounts that was one of the most chilling experiences that Bernie talked with me about when I interviewed him in prison because I was trying to imagine what it's like. You hand this number as it happened. They didn't make that clear in the film, but in real life. What happened was it was Friday afternoon, and he had given them given the SEC investigators the DC account number. No expecting that. They would call and find out that there was nowhere near enough assets in his de TC account to to to support the amount of money. He was supposedly managing he spent that quiet weekend waiting to be arrested fully expecting they would make that call the jig would be up. He would be done. And I asked him how did you endure that? And all he could tell me what you compartmentalize. But this is a guy with absolute ice water in his veins. I mean, he Hooghly and calmly sat there and waited to be arrested and this was years before the fraud scheme finally fell apart. So he he has sort of fatalistic resignation about how it was alternately going to going to come down and just. You can't forging ahead. The episode with Reuss sisters assets, it is in fact, true that Ruth route sister and brother-in-law lost virtually all of their assets with with Bernie, they were all invested with Bernie, and they all disappeared and to their credit. They nevertheless stood by Reuss throughout the years that followed Bernie's arrests. And we're a significant source of of support for her in those very difficult days, and it the wage be oh handled. It made it perhaps seem a little bit more offhand than it had been. What they were. I think trying to show there was the fact that made off did knowingly expose his entire extended family to ruin in this Ponzi scheme. I mean, he he did that he he Peter his brother his sons their children Ruth's extended family, they all invested with him. So he had to know that when this fraud came crashing down. It was going to hurt all of these people. And when I pressed him on that in these prison interviews, the best I could get from him was that he was certain that the it collapsed. He'd be able to take quote, take care of them that somehow whatever he'd get out with enough cash left that he could secure some kind of support for those nearest and dearest to him. And. In fact, that's what he tried to do in his ignorance of the bankruptcy laws. See when the time that at the time the fraud collapsed. He still had about three hundred and fifty four hundred million dollars in the Bank, not a small sum, and he was frantically writing checks on that money to, you know, longtime employees to members of his family trying to to spend the last of the money he had to secure their futures. Now, the bankruptcy laws don't work that way. Every one of those checks was going to be cancelled the minute he filed for bankruptcy. He couldn't have known that. But I think in his mind he felt that he would be able at the end to protect the dear ones that he was hurting. Now, it's not long ago. But there's nothing logical about running upon see scheme that was one of the really that was one of my favorite scenes in the film when you were pressing him on that. And who just couldn't realize it wasn't very. It was Robert deniro. But I thought he did a great job of being very cold as ice customer, and and and he came up with nothing remotely like an answer. You would expect from a guy who was smart enough to engineer all this and keep it going for decades. It was just a point of great failure in stupidity. I think in in his mind, but you know, go into this. I guess if you got all your marbles anyway. You know, Diana. I wanna read one sentence from your book, which is in fact, the last sentence because I've been looking for a lesson from all this, and as you can see I'm struggling with the idea of you know, regulation, and can we really protect people. And and I started out the podcast today. Talking about the importance of getting to know people who allocate capital, but the last sentence in your book, I think is really a the great lesson in you say that is the most enduring lesson of the made off scandal in a world full of lies. The most dangerous ones are those. We tell ourselves and you referred a few minutes ago to you know, how we're kind of hard wired to trust each other. And maybe as soon as you said that I thought, you know, we're hardwired for a lot of things very few of those things. None of those things. Make as good investors though. And I am touched that you noticed that line. I I use it frequently as the as the core of the of the mate off lesson, but have to be honest with ourselves about our own failings about well, they're not even really failings. We have to be honest with ourselves about what we're like, we're hardwired to trust each other. Which means we're not gonna see the conman coming and to tell ourselves that we will. It's just a lie to ourselves to say, oh, I'll never fall for steam like that you're just lying to yourself. Of course, you can, you know, no more special than the ten thousand people who got caught in the main off scandal or the hundreds of thousands of people who get caught in Ponzi schemes every year on average a new Ponzi scheme surfaces every five days. So there's nothing special about you that you're going to you're going to be immune to the Ponzi seems. So be honest with yourself about that. And and make sure that when that you when you trust someone you also take steps to verify the financial arrangements. You make with them because you recognize that you're trust is going to blind. You to the red flags that that you would otherwise see. So I think if we're honest about our own limitations, and and you in reality, these are, lovely, limitations. The fact that we trust each other's. What makes you know, happy and healthy communities and a in a coherent nation, you know, mutual trust is not something we want to get rid of. But we do need to recognize that it leaves us bona Rable when we trust too, much or unwisely at least vulnerable. So we need to be careful to verify the financial arrangements. We make. Even though we trust the people were dealing with. I two nothing of a better place to leave us. We are out of time. And that is that is exactly the message that I want to leave our listeners with thank you so much for being here, Diana when you're when you finally do in a Pulitzer you've gotten you've been a finalist twice. Maybe we'll have you back on the program if you're not to famous worse than. Thank you for having me. I've loved the conversation. All right. Well, what a great guest. Listen. I I definitely on halfway through it. And I'm going to finish it real soon. But I recommend reading this book the wizard of lies Bernie made off in the death of trust by our guest. I n Henrikus it is quite excellent that the reporting and the research and the detail in the storytelling, and frankly, the storytelling itself or excellent. And by the way, Diana is going to speak at our annual stints berry conference that we hold every year in Las Vegas, and I hope you'll come out, and and join us, and and listen to her because I know, you know, obviously, she's a very insightful woman. I mean, she's you know, just about darn near Pulitzer prize winning stuff. She's been around a long time covered a lot of stuff. So well, great guests great book. And I'm sure there's gonna do a great speech words in Vegas. So remember folks, your feedback is important to the success of our show. And if you have questions comments, whatever just Email us at feedback at investor our dot com. We read them all we try to respond to as many as possible. Now. In the days of porter and book, they used to say, we read all the emails and try to respond to every single one. Even the hurtful ones. Well, guess what? This is the second rant. I promised you, and it is called civility is no longer. Optional. Look, I'm fifty seven years old. I've done well in light. I don't need to put up with nothing. So if you're gonna call me a fraud, and if you're gonna be uncivil, and if you're gonna call me another guy called me this week, a pompous killjoy. And the guy who called me a fraud is a complete idiot. He's he's he doesn't understand basic ABC's of of of reading financial statements and the difference between an index and individual. I mean, it's just ridiculous. Okay. But if you're gonna call me a fraud, and if you're gonna behave in an uncivil manner in the emails, I'm just going to ignore your presence forever. I'm gonna stay as soon as you're uncivil. I'm going to stop reading the Email move onto the next one and ignore you. So. I'm not even a, you know, when when they used to say, even the hurtful ones, well that was Puerto in bucks thing. That's not my thing. I don't need to put up with it. Because I'll tell you what the mail bag here is a civil conversation between you, and I the listener and me about how can we become a better investor and to a certain extent, what does Dan thing. Right. And that's all it is. It's just a civil conversation about investing. Now, if you have a criticism of something that you think I haven't done well. Be like Peter G. Remember, I mentioned Peter G last week. And I said he was a model correspondent he corresponds often. He's sometimes highly critical of things that he thinks I failed to do. But he's never uncivil. Okay. So be more like him. If you want to write in and criticize and most people to be fair. Most people aren't like this. Right. Ninety five percent of the folks are not uncivil. But enough of them are that I felt like I needed a rant on civility. You get the picture civilities no longer optional in the in the mail bag so moving onto mailbag question number one and a half five of them today. I like to do more than one or two. It says good day, Dan. I'll keep this short. Thank you. Thank you Russ s is writing in. And I'm thinking for keeping it short. He says, I'm a new listener and longtime true wealth subscriber. And enjoyed the show. I think you are doing a fine job this concerns. The most recent episode. Oh, this will be the last episode with the Dr Richard Smith as guest when you're rant with stock buybacks. What about the practice of using debt to fund the buybacks is that a sound business practice, especially if a company already has a large amount of debt on the books is as I don't support Schumer and Sanders either and find that trying to regulate slash legislate normal business operations have usually backfired or certainly produced unintended unforeseen consequences. Thank you and keep up the good work regards Russ s thank you Russ. I totally agree with your implication. Here stock levering up the balance sheet and borrowing a bunch of money to buy back stock is just strikes me as fundamentally wrong. Even if the company is gushing cash flow, and and can afford the debt it just strikes me as a very very odd practice now I can understand using the cash flow. To buy back shares. And and I even understand the basic, you know, sometimes there's an arbitrage here. Right. If you pay a tour, let's say you pay three percent dividend yield on your shares and you can borrow for two percent. Well, there's a one percent arbitrage though. Right. So so I get that. But how far do you take? It would be the good question. And I think, you know, there's no general answer here you have to evaluate each individual company on this. But I agree with you you should evaluate each individual company. How much money are they boring? Why are they buying back stock? It's it's a great question. Russ. Thank you very much mailbag number two says, Dan, you imply that charting is a waste of time disagree. My question does docs, investing options, a waste of time. I don't completely understand that questions talking about doc. I for sorry. I can't under can't answer that question because I don't understand it. I will chart everything of docs, picks looking to capture a little of the upper downtrend of his pick. I'm only looking to trade short-term only don't care if the Mark. Going up or down. I do. Enjoy listening to your thoughts on different companies. Glad to see you relaxing with your new gig have more fun. Please Jeff are Jeff I'm trying to have as much fun as possible here. And I thank you for for your for your compliment. Actually, I think I understand the question. You're asking me if docs, doc, I for latest investing option strategy may be or one of his options investing strategies as a waste of time. I don't think anything doc ivory does for his readers always of time. 'cause he he's cut a fantastic track record. And he's a great guy. And he's got experience, you know, for days and in for decades, really. And he knows what he's doing. But you said I implied that charting was a waste of time in. Yes. In a previous episode. I did say what most people do. That's my point. My point is not that looking at price charts is a waste of time. I think that what most people do when they look at price charts as a waste of time. Because I think it's very simplistic and very first level. It's not second level thinking, it's not an elliptical. It's just I level gut reaction naive. What I would call naive technical analysis. And I learned the term naive technical analysis from a trader in Michael Harris who you can find on Twitter and. And I just think that most people kind of fooling themselves. They're they're full their full by randomness in detecting, these chart patterns and trading on them. And I think it's just really it's a random strategy and they don't recognize the randomness. But there are people who do sophisticated technical analysis and make money in an idol. You know, there's more than one way is gonna cat. I'm not denying that. But I think most people most individual investors for kind of foolish with their charting. That's my point. And of course, I need to leave it to individuals to decide if therefore themselves, you know. Oh. Mailbag number three says, Dan, absolutely love the podcast. Thank you for doing such a great job of telling us what we need to hear. I need your wisdom and experience here to set me straight. It seems to me like there is a huge hole in this whole bull slash bear. Discussion. There are so many secondary factors considered to consider that it is pretty easy to make a case for either side the bottom line is because they are all secondary factors. The whole discussions based on logical guesswork for purposes of making money. Why can't we just forget about the market as a whole wouldn't it just make sense to buy the stocks? The institutions are buying and sell the stocks. They are selling if they are not buying go to cash this gets out of the philosophy business and cuts to the chase. It would seem to me that the best economic indicator of all would be institutional sentiment. Your discussions are fascinating. But the all involving princes that may or may not apply that the institutions fight it out in who cares if they're wrong. They make the prices go up or down to follow them, not the machinations of people discussing disparate factors. If this makes any sense, how do we track and use this data? I don't know if the much thanks Don be thank you. Don be for your complimentary. Words at the beginning of your question. I questioned this whole idea because I don't know. I mean, I think there are people who do this. There are people who watch money flows and purportedly make money buying stocks that other people are shoving money into. But you know, if you're asking me, how do we track and use this data? It sounds to me like maybe you haven't thought this through and don't know enough about it. And I I sure don't because I would never do it. I would never base anything. I'm doing on what some other investors doing which is what you're telling me you want to do here. And and I don't think. Well, let me put it this way. It's possible that you could have a trading strategy here. But really all you have is the Saint is glimmer of the beginning of warning. You have a lot of work to do. And how do we track and use this data beats the heck out of me? Good luck. Dawn if you figure it out right back in mailbag number four. I love love. Love your first weekly ran Dan this information, you share it about Facebook was both enlightening and frightening. Also, you're my favorite investor our host, I have learned much in the several months during which I listened to the podcast before and since you've been hosting. I realized that politics certainly affect the stock market. However, I thoroughly appreciate that your neither political nor vulgar, very professional. Dwight D thank you Dwight included this, obviously because it kind of speaks to my little second rant about being civil, and yeah, I'm I'm gonna try really hard never to be vulgar, and I'm going to be very civil and never throw insults out unless in the past. I have in saw. To some people when they've called me a fraud or something like that only. But in the future is going to ignore that whole thing, and we're going to have a very civil discussion in the mail bag every week. Last one mailbag number five TJ says I've gone in circles looking for transcripts do these episodes where the hell are the links to them TJ? Do you calm down? Dude there there. I promise. What happens? I think sometimes is that we don't get the latest transcript up as fast as we put up the episode. It just takes a little bit of time. But if you go back to previous episodes, just go to investor our dot com. Scroll down to whatever episode. You want click on it. And when you get to that page, then scroll all the way down and the transcript will be down at the bottom page. Okay. So if you're if you're looking for the transcripts, that's where they are. And if you're wondering why you can't find the transcript for the latest episode, it just takes a little time. 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97 - Preseason Testing 2020

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97 - Preseason Testing 2020

"Hello everybody and welcome to shift one podcast about speedy race cars. I am drew scanlon. Joining me Danny. Dwyer how are you? Danny I'm doing great drew. I have already watched all of Dr Survive Season. Two and looking forward to season three nice coming up soon. Acne is also with us. How are you rub not bad? I'm savoring drive to survive but that Haas episode And I know G let's not don't bring it's it's it's it's great it's brilliant. It's better than last year. Is the whole thing wonderful? A great time worldwide. Wonderful time to be alive or dying injuries case Yes as you may be able to tell I have a cold and am super second gross. So I'm probably not GonNa talk very much this episode. So what you wanted to take it away Danny Juries handed the baton to me this week because he's not feeling great. I will say that I was I was feeling all right this morning. But since I've been editing in studio for a couple of hours and I GOTTA. I'd never get headaches. And it just got a headache and now. I've been coughing a bit so Perhaps by the end of the podcast that'll be the baton to rob and it'll be a solo effort listen to the rest of the podcast To find out yeah. This is effectively the first episode of the two thousand twenty season for us here shift F. One our preseason primary was up. Obviously we've done a bunch for patrons but this is where if you'll excuse the PUN. The rubber hits the road for formula. One at testing is over. Now we've had Was it six days total. I think of Of Testing at circuit at Barcelona and Catalonia Spain. Where we we will be returning midway through the season if the corona virus doesn't mess with that we'll talk about that later but Yeah we're we're basically here today to talk about sort of the top points from testing over that two week period ahead teams fared where they sort of look and we're also going to cover up a bunch of the news that has happened am since Since like sort of around the testing window 'em either in relation to testing itself for some other stuff and to keep your eye on as we enter the twenty twenty season and look forward to Melbourne Ab to get the show on the road. Rob Do you mind giving us a little bit of a sort of a an over under on what exactly testing is for for the uninitiated. Yeah so tessie. I don't know how it was Served before I started watching. Remember the early days of my Phantom. I don't remember the preseason test being quite as big a deal but I think it's become a much larger deal as like more and more restrictions have kept coming in on testing. Basically TESTING IS F. One has famously. Failed at cost. Containment measures pretty much across the board and four. They're sends F one testing. Pays the price so f one has a really restrictive testing regime In the past this is some Info drew drew. Put Together For this episode but drew is You know obviously is obviously wounded But you know we used to have eight testing days This season we are down to six This is not without controversy. I think is clear Williams like during the During the during the test sessions was saying that this is not enough time to sufficiently test these cars which is a bit rich because last year they only had sex. Yeah how many days of the Williams actually run to like midland is two of them. Yes it would have been six of the ace actually only turned up or I think the but I think that kind of points to it as well is some of these teams can do a lot without ever hitting a track other teams lottery struggling outfits when you are trying to pin down reliability when you got a lot of performance issues to to trouble shoot. You desperately need testing time. And I think the restrictions on testing have been one way that F one's kind of hierarchy of the power rankings kind of baked in But as a result it puts a lot of pressure on the six tests days to get a lot of data out of the car Every single lap teams are looking for looking some aspect of performance. Drivers are going out there. They're trying to do fast. Lap Sometimes Other Times they are just basically pushing the car to its limits. And just to see. Where is it unreliable Where do they start to have problems? Crop House the car wear as it spends time on the track Sometimes you will see during testing. These cars will be carrying a looks like a chain link fence or like an old radar array almost And that is to measure airflow You also sometimes see the car's covered in Like a streaky Neon highlighter effect. Yes as drive around or something right. Yeah and that is That's a flow viz and again that's a that is a way to get that. That is a way to basically have the era dynamic behavior of the car literally painted onto the services The flow of is is sort of dragged streaked around as air passes over the car and based on those patterns engineers can discern a lot from a lot about how the car performed aerodynamically that you really just can't get in a wind tunnel. A wind tunnel tests tests. You know largely air moving in a straight line over the car but out on the track you obviously have cross breezes you have cars turning So it's really important to see that sort of data as well Teams run one driver at a time. the other is watching and listening to the radio You also have testing is also paternity for teams to tat like basically do Dress Rehearsal pitstops Which the mechanics are always sort of doing Pit Stop Training Back it back at H. Q. But testing allows for a more serious Rehearsals of that stuff And then you. Sometimes you'll have teams intentionally Short the fuel in the car and that is to see how that's that's basically see like. How far can this CAR GATT on a zero fuel situation because remember these are teams that do basically want to finish a race with a with a splash of fuel left in the tank and anything more than that is just extra weight that they WANNA rid of? Yeah for sure I. It's a big part of I. Guess the the the whole idea of testing being that. It's not really heats. It's more the you're trying to test at the best and worst of the car and get as much data as as possible. But that doesn't mean that we're not also looking at the the the times and taking a look at 'em those times that the teams have gone out and tried to set hot laps on on some of the softer tyres. There's a lot of variability in this obviously In terms of what the pace is like different tires and the amount of fuel. That's the card anyone second at the Jerusalem. Oh you're saying it's Two point three five seconds per ten kilograms Barcelona's often cold this time of day or this actually was an unseasonably warm and week for pre season testing for winter testing 'em it was also been windy as well For the last couple of days especially the last day which was probably just as well that they don't quite love their air worker earlier in the in the allotment. So looking at these times. You can't retail altogether at where everyone is but it's it's painting a sort of a broad picture and looking at the the the top ten here it kind of feels in line with With with some of the stuff we've been hearing about. Actually I'm not sure he's Williams owner Williams. Are there okay? Well maybe it's particularly in line with the top spot or going from I'm going to basically go down the list here The fastest laps We saw for each team In the order in which they were fastest in relation to the other teams of course Mercedes F facets of the bunch on the c five tire on the third day of testing val towboat sitting in the seats Got A one fifteen point seven three two max for stopping next the red. We'll get into the teams in a in a hot minute as well but the rebel looking pretty mighty fast on the final day. Max I think it was. Maybe his like Fourth last lap of the entire am six day test. He managed to pull off a one sixteen to On the C. Four which is impressive in its own reis They did a lot of running on the C. Four and C. Two in the couple of days at Donnie Ricardo at posted his fastest time ever in preseason testing on the C five win sixteen to seven Just two tenths slower than the Red Bull Ferrari were next Charlotte Clare Or Charles Leclerc called himself once again drive to survive and complicating things further on the final day on the C. Five one. Sixteen three six Sergio Perez in the very fast. Pink Mercedes The racing point on day six in the sith three hosted a one sixteen. Six six caught my attention. Yeah that is an extremely good time on C. Three now obviously probably have to make allowances for the fact that some of the guys in front of them are sandbagging It's we'll get into this with like Ferrari like Ferrari as slow as they seem Is Mercedes holding back on pace? Nevertheless like Peres doing that on the C. Three on the C. Three compound Given that harder tyres you're basically surrendering a what. Is it like about roughly a little over second lap thereabouts For him to turn in that kind of time. does suggest that the racing point may have some actual pace in it. Yeah Mighty Raid that was one of the. There's a number of things we'll get into the teams really sort of peak people's interest and that's certainly one of them Carlos Sainz in the McLaren basics on C. Four again when Sixteen Point Ace Georgie? Russell managed to get his Williams around in one sixteen point eight as well appointed seven on day six Using the C five. And then we'd Alpha Tories Danica Caveat on the final day on the C. Four point one six nine Robert Kabila and the Alpha Mayor of course being the Tester For Alpha this year Alfa Romeo. I guess I have to actually delineate. Which now on the fourth day running the C. Five you gotta a one. Sixteen point nine way off. The pace am nine. Four and way off the pace Was the Haas of Roman grow? John has probably had the most difficult of the teams in preseason testing in terms of speed on in terms of laps actually on day six on the C. Four. He got a one seventeen point zero. Three seven M reliability as as probably. We shouldn't be very surprised has been pretty good. We're kind of at the end of the life of these cars. New regulations coming in two thousand twenty one as we talked about in the pre season primer. The teams have really dialed in. Not just the speed of these cars and managed to get them back to where they were before the the the sort of the latest change and but also the reliability is far far better which is great news for Every team not the least Folks like Williams who really struggled at Mercedes of course is to be expected manage to edge the most laps of nine hundred and three followed by Ferrari at eight hundred forty four McLaren at eight hundred four racing point. Seventy two red bull just shy of them with seven. Eighty Alfred Tori seven seventy Renault. Seven four three William Seven three seven Alfa Romeo seven three five then Haas with six hundred forty nine bus. You know all things being equal. That's not a bad showing either but It's probably time. We dove into some of the specifics. Because it's been a very interesting preseason test at maybe maybe the least surprising who's on top which drew will talk about it but It was fun to see. I don't know like a like an aeroplane control be used one car. I guess sort of fitting in a way. Yes so I think this is also the first year that they have televised every testing session. And this is something that We may not have seen before the Australian Grand Prix. If not that occurrence right so Mercedes. Has this weird thing called dual axis steering? Where they can. Actually the drivers can push and pull their steering wheels in and out and in addition to turning them left and right and what that does is changed the toe angle of the front of the car. So if you imagine like looking down at your toes as you're standing usually they're parallel right. Your feeder pointed straight forward. But if you move both your toes away from your body your feet are pointed out if you move toes in their you know a pigeon toed and La like if you've ever learned to Ski Pizza French fries and so this has a few Mercedes. Says the effect will be small person. Yeah of course they're saying that and also I guess we don't really know because they haven't even had a chance to really try this on track very much so That's what texting is all about. But the thinking goes that you want an outward toe in corners because the inside tire is turning tighter corner than the outside tire. So if you're just locked unparallel tires and you're turning one of those is going to be Scuffing along the ground right But if you if they're turned at different rates you get a much better You know even patch of grip Not as much scuffing. So but you also want your tires to be parallel on the streets going straight forward unless however you want to heat or cool different parts of your tires so if you change the toe while you're going straight you'll essentially be dragging the inside or the outside of the tire along the ground which we eat it up which sometimes what you want right like we see cars weeding back and forth under safety car sometimes to to get their tires temperature chain bearish also has a really good explanation video for Das which we will link in the show notes and of course as soon as I really enjoyed seeing this happen in real time because I didn't watch testing live of course but like there were a fun little clips floating around of like all of the Renault engineers crowded around the TV screen. Looking like what is that. What are they doing like? This is the first time anyone has ever seen this. And it wasn't until you know the broadcast crew is like. Let's take a look at this clip that we found of Lewis Hamilton pulling his real in and out but everyone was a little taken aback by like. Is this going to me. Legal and I'm not going to quote any regulations here because I don't know them but apparently it is for the twenty twenty regulations rice But is not for the twenty run regulations and that's not I think It can seem like the FAA like instantly. Change their rules for twenty twenty one after this happened but in fact that rule was in there before this came out however Mercedes says that the DA is not news to the FAA. It's something that they've been talking with them for some time about So I could see them talking with them like hey we just want to make sure this is this rules in place in the FAA saying okay. Yes but we're GONNA make it illegal for twenty twenty one Ferrari also came out for our he said. Oh Yeah we were We were thinking of doing that as well but decided against it. Yeah no time so one of the thing. I will say that I saw some speculation about was that while the FIFA appears to have signed off on it. There is a there