14 Burst results for "Gabriella Sabatini"
"gabriela sabatini" Discussed on No Challenges Remaining
"Won't put on its big Boy Britches and be a sport like it's totally legit play like why and I get it for like I'm not criticizing the tweet because it's GonNa get interactions and it's going to get like clout like whatever. But the ATP tweet of like a thumbs up thumbs down thumbs up or thumbs down. boob lick for an ACE. How do you feel about this ace folks like ricky diamonds shed like I think about every other eight I feel good that he won the point. What are we even I mean as. Talking about like it's so embarrassing. For the sport to act as though they're only right ways and not only are you supposed to win points in the sport which doesn't have to clock by the way so you constantly have to win points right but not only that but on top of that, there's this invisible. Lake I have like what you but how you are supposed to win points bullshit I. Feel I speak French Sierra when we are not about the unwritten rules of knowing in terms of like Oh. This is baseball obviously a lot. We're like other certain ways to not. Like, when the guy like someone got, there was a padre right summer who got mad at for hitting a Grand Slam. Padre is not an actual father of the Catholic Church but yeah, isn't it might as well be for for the blasphemy this was considered. Yes it was where he I don't get all padres. The padres were leading like by an insurmountable effectively lead and this guy with the bases loaded hit a home run which grand. Slam, and he was accused of being unsportsmanlike running up the score like whatever and it's like, Yo- you put the ball like right in the middle of the I swung it went over the fence. What do you want from me like just crazy Also I wanNA homerun like personal stats matter. We're all fantasy players. I just don't like it i. don't like the whole conversation around the underarm serve. It's a legit tactic. It's no less legitimate a fucking dropshot literally the exact same thing Monica. Niculescu you hitting that underarm serve on match point against Veras WanNa. RAVEA. It was effectively a drop shot past. Combo she hit the she hit the underarm serve Vera had to run in hit return and then she pastor At the net that's what it was. How is that? Not a play? I think Mary is the one who referred maybe she's calling somebody else I've heard her say that the goal tennis is like put your opponent in a state of emergency that phrase like that and if you can do that with short sir, that makes me uncomfortable like. Again? Yes. Keep doing it you to you so sociable bottles. Log Dissertation on a player who will almost certainly not make it to the second round but SCHWARTZMAN's here t mobile's. DIGGER Schwartzman is in the sections. Rome finalist had a chance of being top ten had he won that match against which he did not Diego was the shortest player in ATP listings ever reached a mass final. And the thing is he's so much shorter than he's listed five seven and we all know that ain't true. GEICO's not five seven he's not close to five seventy. He is like I. Think we can say that he's pro and obviously you've you been next to him coordinator. Of course you know he's he's at all you. I'm five three and a quarter. Or three quarters and you're like with him yeah. Yeah. He might be five four. Yeah he might but most five four. But here's the thing. There's a huge difference between five four and five seven in men's two hundred and I feel like it's. Pun intended here. It's really solid diego short to not give him credit for his real high because like what he does is so incredible being five four and just kind of. ATP I've taught AP knows. Calms like we need to talk to the egg about a tight because it's just not true. We we all know. Some anyway. I. Celebrate I want him to lean into an owner. I. Think he's an even more inspirational co story when you're five or when you're go go full muggsy bogues. Also, it's not five four. Playing all due respect Sarah Ronnie tennis. No it is five four and bossing Ross a doll civil us it's simple Cova tennis exactly I mean that photo of them together another good height retake exactly that that's definitely receipt but yeah no, it's that it's not like he place. So aggressively incredible shotmaker he's not out there just running and like you know using your Speed or whatever he's playing positive tennis, and that's where I think that it's so impressive and again, that's why I've really loved his match against shop to players trying to be aggressive in their own way playing positive tennis not you know. Playing grinding, slow defensive tennis. It was great But yeah, muccio shout out to Diego Schwartzman who I love because he gets really excited when Gabriela Sabatini tweets about him. He's so like. I mean, obviously, we I mean what a queen. weirdly. We spent way too long like this. Getting, way too long next section team section don't team big draw loser gets Merrill Lynch First Round. There are only six men slam champs in Straw and for the reply until their first round. Between teams. And from commercials also, the Section Team Jealousy. That's our team of WHO's going to challenge thing. It's a or sock sock qualify together. Results in the no Palca probably there and then. He could get casper rude of the recent rummy finals in the third round, and then possibly vodka me six dominant cup for who also made a good run in Rome Dominic Cooper out of the billy heiser stable. This is a broth to offer team and I don't feel bad because he got a relatively easy draw to his first slam. Let's be real but not the easiest he didn't play big three guys so you. See what you got here dominic the section. Yeah I I I don't mind the brink of Murray thing I think it's okay because I don't neither I would have picked a deep run to your per se maybe maybe stand but honestly, not against team in that section. So I don't mind as having some first round popcorn I'm okay with it. Even, if it is fine. As a bitter aftertaste popcorn with how they broke each other in two thousand seventeen yes. No I mean the stories are there the angles the narrative of the Murray of Rinca first round draw Yeah. No I I totally agree with you team loser I think that it's again it's kind of the cumulative effect of those matches over the course of of five, six seven that could. Leave him if he were to get to the semifinals or finals you know or quarters, you know a bit depleted again he was another one that today in addition to Rafa was Kinda like. These conditions are not great for me which is true..
"gabriela sabatini" Discussed on The Tennis Podcast
"It's the fourth dues you've got to like. Get us into. This is giving this ridiculously long introduction and he didn't really know the players and I just started barking over him. Oh here. She was up this and that she's. been. Anyway I don't know that Gabby had. A reputation that she had to carry around her neck as being a choker. I just think that in the end, a lot of players got the better of her because they played they. You know you judge your judge at the finish line and that's especially true this pandemic. Like WanNa me off. Just wait and see what happens kids but I think I. Think be again. I think the Achilles heel of the thing that one. Her helped her win. Her Major was her served, and it became her her biggest. Achilles heel her second serve I think there was a match I called where he was really just bending in these second serves, and so and I was annoying I. Mean I'm still annoying, but back in the day. I really said what I what I wanted and I said this this thing this. We have an expression in the US. I don't know if you have that. If something comes in softly, it's duck. So, she's hitting these ducks irs, and at one point he hit one that I swear to God barely made it over the net. I said Okay that thing quack. So that was kind of. She had a whacky second service on, and that really costs her because people. Sometimes you don't. You can't always tell when someone's getting tight where it's going to show up. With Gabby it was herself. Boy She beautiful beautiful player, beautiful woman I mean universally admired in the I, mean both locker rooms, but all the women really. Really liked her. She was very humble. They're beautiful. So merry relate. They're thinking that her her serve was. was what what held her back and what potentially prevented her from from winning more and Chris Clarry thinking it was. Was the mental side of the Game Chris saying that that he thought growth had more ambition than Sabatini maybe be at more ambition than everybody but. But I space. possibly. The truth is the both of those things are a right that there were these two witnesses to game and these these multiple Grand Slam champions. The time didn't. Didn't have those, but possibly I know that sounds like a harsh assessment, but there there has to be reason why she she anyone one and said he wasn't anything to do. With the quality of a half, a four hundred back cancel overly. It it to me, if we think back to Kevin Curren was telling us yesterday of being very good player who reached the final? But if he had had all the fuss, solely attention that Boris Becker had had particularly at a young age, he wouldn't have been for him. He got the sense. He would almost prefer not to win and have all of that and Sabatini whilst she had an enormous amount of attention around her. I got the sense. She was a little more content with her life and her career than other players who needed to win. In order to be happy would've would've been. So. It all adds up to me it it all goes with what I think because I think the the serve at that level was so taxable it. It didn't give any cheap easy points because she had a couple of crossroads in her career where a big serve just to win a few easy points probably would have some absolutely Gargantuan matches this being the biggest of the more an quizzical, it got weaker in the stressful moments, which is not only a huge tell fuel fewer opponent that you'll. You'll feeling. It will say that that's when you want your serve. To help you out the most right you just when you when you're tens and you, you you're on feels like lead. You just want to cheap easy point, and and she never had those to rely on. But. Guinness may she was? She was. She was a joyful tennis player to watch. Absolutely joyful made me watching. It made me wish that there had been a a women's champion till champions tool because she'd have been just. Glorious on that. She should have been such a crowd pleaser. Question about and actually the the the other thing that always strikes me is the speed with which she went from being here at the pinnacle of her powers. At the top of the game, challenging grandson trophies to not being a force anymore at all I mean. She retired five years later. She's still in a mid twenties and. Are there was an article in the Times by Robin Finn Talking about that six one five one lead against Mary Joe, Fernandez. She had in the quarter-finals the French Open, and she says it was a match that ended in tears and twilight all around Sabatini lost touch with that commodity, most precious to any athlete self-assurance, the one match the took my confidence away was the loss to Mary Jo. Jo I. You can't believe it's happened to you. Then you stop believing in you. It's been a long time since I've been able to sleep a really deep sleep. A loss like that doesn't leave you know one gifts now no one except perhaps for the player. Herself is afraid of Gabriela Sabatini. That's what happens when you're not winning matches. You just don't have it anymore and they know it. Well that was absolutely harrowing thanks David. GonNa. Give it to you strike. Those are incredible quotes incredible. So. Reflection and how how how how long after the events did wh with those quotes? How long after that loss house enough to that law? That was that was in nineteen ninety-four. So she'd had she was, she was back at the US Open back at the scene of her triumph for years before she'd had that US Open. Match in well exactly remember how much earlier, but she was, and she was on the downward spiral, and she never regained. She never managed to get back to where she was. She had a lot of injury problems as well and eventually I just think. She was a really well rounded human being it seemed to me when she went into retirement, and and it seems like from the outside is. She's having an had a very happy retirement. But those two things don't necessarily go hand in hand with being the best tennis player in the world, do they? Will we'll hear from Paul annacone in a in a few days time talking about Pete Sampras and what made him. And it needed to be success. Success was what would give him happiness, and that's the same with a lot of these great champions. Yeah always makes me think if the the question that Mary could relate to. Put at the French Open loss cheering the. pre-tournament press conference on. Do you think possibly to happy? Coming into this slam, I mean maybe. Maybe a better word for it would be content I date night too much of a feeling of fulfillment. D have to feel like there's something missing in your life in order to be hungry enough to to go to the lengths required to destroy for I, don't know. I'd like to think that not all great champions have been been deeply unhappy. Well, that's what Cetera so interesting. Isn't it yeah? He's the total antidote to that somebody who's love who loves the life and has managed to win as well. Somebody else I. Think. That's interesting. Here is the. That's two grand slams. We've covered in a row now. In terms of route on Garros Wimbledon, where we focused on a Steffi Graf winning, and we've actually ended up talking a little bit more about. Her opponent you know in in the French Open that was obviously because of Martina Hingis. And takes want of a better word and hair. It's because we will so sort of enthralled by Gabriella Sabatini game and personality, but. Maybe that says something a little bit about Steffi Graf as well I think we can all appreciate her greatness, and we will like watching her play, but perhaps perhaps she as much as she's got these incredible records. Perhaps, she's a little bit rated because. She talked herself down a little bit. As well I didn't think she was concerned with greatness or want to be judge of her own place in tennis history. It strikes me in the way that some of the other players who've got similar amounts of slams have she's She just sort of played. One got on with it and didn't didn't necessarily like everything else that came. The came with that and she's obviously retreated from the SPL since which is a massive reason..
"gabriela sabatini" Discussed on The Tennis Podcast
"Hello, everyone and welcome again to the tennis podcast and episode, four of Wimbledon relived when we are travelling back in time to nineteen ninety-one, and what was at the time, the longest ever women's final between. Steffi Graf and Gabriela. Sabatini took tea seeds in the championships that year, and it was an obsolete classic and. One that we've all enjoyed reliving up until just a few moments ago, David, it was the very welcome return of if NBC coverage with Bud, Collins. Yes And the joy, as well as Hamburg and Tracy Austin is there and yeah I mean. It was beautiful pitches until the ball was actually on the court, and we couldn't actually see the flight of the ball particularly well, because the court was so worn and. Doesn't show up that well against it, but you got the sense of the pitches. They were painting on the court. These two playas certainly Sabatini at the absolute peak of her powers that was the the year twelve months that she played when she was very best, and she so artistic as a tennis player, she has everything to compensate for her lack of brute power, and you graph, who is just trying to find her best, and then at the end she does, and it was just a wonderful contrast to wonderful clash. Thank goodness. We did have English language commentary, because we broadly speaking couldn't see the tennis ball. Much of it this. Wimbledon relived, but but minus the ball. Which is kind of expect that from some of the seventies and early eighties matches. We've been watching, but for ninety s much we were. We were hoping to see the tennis pool, but it lasts not today, but we could see the players Matt, and we could see the the outline of the court. And That was it was just about enough. Just about? Now I mean it was one of those matches which I've heard about and mu the school and was excited to see how graph and Sabatini would match up on grouse and it just it just doesn't disappoint to. It really is a classic both in terms of drama at the end of the match and sustained quality throughout and just just nice players to watch, and as you know just good people as well. I think, grow from Sabatini and you just you didn't really you know you, don't. I didn't find rooting rarely for either of them obviously I. Know The score you just. You just watch them action. It's just a pleasant pay. Pleasant viewing experience Matt wasn't. In existence yet I was five years old and and probably peaking. David. You were doing the opposite. I was. I was Yeah Tale Spinning through a levels to failure and. Do them all over again and this particular. Wimbledon fell halfway between the two years that I that I completely filed all of those exams and was, but was discovering. I still was in the tennis period, watching period of my life where I could only watch Wimbledon ready, because nothing else was on, but I was just sort of starting to discover the French Open because satellite dishes at the labels to start watching that, but it wasn't until the US Open that would follow this Wimbledon that would really become completely obsessed with the sport, but the graph Sabatini rivalry was one that I always got my attention just i. just think it's almost a perfect clash. Of Styles and particularly and it Sabatini to me that makes all of it because she doesn't have the power that most players have, and so she finding other ways to win, and she evolved her game and last night i. Watched for the first time, the entire nineteen ninety US Open final between the two of them, which is the only Grand Slam title that Sabatini Ever One. I was just fascinated as to how she'd done it. Because unless you've got several wins against Graf, she never beaten her on the biggest stage like that and and I just loved it and watched watching how she kind of overhauled our own game in order to do so. Great. One o'clock in the morning last night. David with not only what reliving tennis from a completely different Grand Slam to the the one that. was supposed to be living on the PODCAST. Bruce, as sort of accidentally trolling Martinez in fat ladies tasting 'cause. Ferry accident? on twitter so busy night for David Law Yeah. Arrange cigarette interview for later today. For tomorrow show so hopefully alcohol. Sleep is for the week. As far as David's concerned I set the scene for you in terms of nine hundred ninety one aside from the demise of if student Lou. Which is obviously the main event of one, thousand, nine, hundred thousand. Other things that were happening were everything I. Do I. do it for you by Bryan Adams. Was it number one for sixteen weeks? That's a record that still stands. There's a big part of my life. Song Yeah Yeah Okay. Tony Tear anything more about. How We're talking about seventeen year old Boris Becker yesterday, and and how cool was and how cool it was imagine if you compared your own seventeen year old self to that well I was seventeen in nineteen, hundred, ninety one. And like I say I was. The loser vol loses. Great lovely mental image songs Lamb's released. Did you watch that? Date yeah scared the life out of me. I think that was an eighteen certificate they. Really were rebel back, then David. Didn't see to cinema. I don't actually think I would have got away with it. Even though six-foot-five a don't think they would've thought I always eighteen. Freddie! Mercury announced that he had aids and died the next day Robert. Maxwell was found floating in the sea. These on this is all the bad stuff out the way. Mike Tyson charged.
"gabriela sabatini" Discussed on The Tennis Podcast
"We're tennis tournaments, but it was very different to now. So. You know if all the things I know now I would have known seventeen twenty. Obviously, my career would have been a bit different. Probably more successful now, not saying mine wasn't. But. You always smarter when you get older and you would do things differently. At twenty years ago. Short shrift. Is that how we describe that? I was part of a group talking to him about tennis today, and all those things and actually I mean. The panel was drawing. Radi was Coca Golf at the age of Fourteen fifteen China. Navigator way in this sport and getting all the attention, and I've always been fascinated by Boris, having seen him at seventeen of always wounded. What he makes whether he's ever had properly chance to think back and think Oh. I I hadn't done this or that. You know and. I just wanted to ask him he he wasn't. He was very happy with the question to be quite honest with you I don't think he only likes it particularly. You probably heard that. That tells you something, doesn't it? Discomfort with the question when I when I think back to. I'm not I'm not judging paper. Think back to how incredibly reflective Christopher was about her you. Her experience of if success young and she knows considers to be poor decision making and how? Open and undefinitive. She is about these aspects of her life. She's you know she's been three therapy and really worked hard on. All of that, but. Boris sounds to me like he's taken the other road of. Just not wanting to not wanting to think about it and not wanting to reflect. Head Down Move Ford's is how how he comes across. I also did just want to briefly touch on his coaching career because he was with Novak Djokovic. Part of that team for three years, and so it's difficult to know how much impact AAC coach is having on a player, or or versus how much impact Simone Vita had. Now, that chocolate had enormous success during that period as well and that do feel that just the messaging of somebody who's who'd been there and done. It did help Jock itch for period particularly at a time when I think he was probably. Fading a little bit. Inferior, in his own mind to Nidal and federal, just in terms of the. Kind of stature. They had in the sports, even though his his own achievements were were spectacular on their own I. Think just having Boris in his corner really helped him feel bigger than even he was. I think there was a period there were. I mean 'cause Djokovic Chat. That breakthrough in twenty eleven, but then? It slightly stagnated. He still kind of the best player in the world, but it wasn't transferring into slams. I think twenty twelve and twenty thirty. One one slam, and then he comes in Becca comes along and. Yeah. You're right. I mean. The best period of Djokovic career coincided with Becca, being his box in terms of two thousand, fifteen, especially in two thousand sixteen, and he turned into this incredible big match player Jackovitch and that is something that. Kevin Curran just said in that interview that we heard that if he wanted a player to play in a big match, it was Boris Becker and it's. It's kind of difficult to put your finger. Maybe exactly what what? That was and the maybe? said to him, yeah, but Boris never fit any opponents or any occasion he the big of the opponent, the big of the occasion, the bigger he. became, he pushed out his chest and he he seemed to grow a couple of inches and yeah water. What a force he was, and if you're ever in need of any yelm inspirational quotes, they can be found daily on the Boris's Instagram page Hashtag word. Excellent, Yes! That's Boris, Becker youngest-ever Wimbledon champion. He must have been annoyed when Michael Chang came along the friendship in couples later. Just mid days younger than him to to steal the youngest male Grand Slam champion title away from embassies, still the youngest Wimbledon Chan ever be broken that one I mean. Not sure it will. I mean to say never feels ridiculous, but I don't see it. Being broken in the foreseeable future tennis would have to change substantially for it to be broken I mean the age of maturation for male tennis players is getting older. Not Younger. So that have to be significant shift in direction of travel that For it to be broken, but it surely will be one day. Where are we going tomorrow Matt. We are going to nineteen ninety-one I'm very. Excited about this a the nineties, and a because it Steffi Graf as Gabriela Sabatini in an absolute classic final. If it one of the main things. That tennis relived has done for me. Is made me into a massive Gabriella Sabatini fan again. I mean I was sort of age five to have, but now I'm a more mature considered. Gabriella, Sabatini Fan. Oath going through a God gun show in rough patch. Boris. Becker style so in one, thousand, nine, hundred, eighty one. We Lost Lo years is the This is the butter derailment of the law I cannot wait. That's tomorrow day. Four of Wimbledon relived. I'm upset loving them. A radium is. Such a joins such a pleasure Boris. Becker is the perfect example of one where anew he won Wimbledon. In one, thousand, nine, hundred five is a seventeen year old and. Probably, previously I felt like it was. It was enough tonight up, but but now I know. We'll the richness of the context in the stories behind it and the significance of it and. and. Yeah. I'm so glad I know all of that. And I'm so glad I had the opportunity to have matt current lockdown hair compared to Kevin Curran's circa one, thousand, nine, hundred, five, also was a treat by David. I should say oh by me. Gerald are Wimbledon mascot excellent, excellent Gerald. Building a head of steam on instagram. He's practically and influence now. He won't need a soon that Halley Gerald. And David Hammer. We'll be back tomorrow with groff against sabotage Bettini and first trip to the nineteen. We'll see then..
"gabriela sabatini" Discussed on The Tennis Podcast
"One of the coaches of rough on the Dow turns up against Lendl and goes two sets to love down. So you're facing even endel your six four six four down and you're seventeen playing the world number one who has won this title a couple of times and the thought that Chiang would win from there would seem ridiculous. We were two days talking to today's ago talking about how it was lendl. Who's two cents down against your McEnroe and found a way back and they really hit you hard. Don't these stories when you see them unfold? But I think there was more drama in the Chang fightback than pretty much any match chef seen in terms of just stuff. That happens stuff that he did in order to get over the line. He was moon-balling his opponent. Because he started to cramp there were there were several rallies where he just stood Chang way beyond the baseline and challenged lendl to hit wins and it seemed to frazzle the mind of even Lendl I. I'd never seen that before he. He was a veteran by the state. This five years on from that match with John McEnroe's he was no longer just on the brink of trying to become a grand slam champion. He was a season's proven champion overwhelming world number-one he'd won the Australian Open and he couldn't really handle the games. The Chang was playing with them. Yeah you will kind of watching ROBOT UNRAVEL WANT. You robot kind of malfunction. He was hitting the ball back to Chang. Which is you know the exact opposite of what you want to be doing of. I've read and watch the number of inches with the champion dot dumb on myself. That will here in a moment. And he talks about how he was waiting for lender to start hitting dropshots into start going for the angles and start playing on his his obvious depletion but he just didn't do it. He was busy busy imploding and it was. It was so evident. He you know all bull semblance of a poker face just disintegrated didn't he was. He was shouting about the quality of the court and got involved in a really heated altercation with the with the Umpire Richard. Ings during which Michael Chang actually left the court to as he says freshen up which further angered with. Great just GonNa get them just author. I it's getting and powder as you continue at Grey Wall. I'm going it was extraordinary. It's really remarkable because comeback from two sets down normally a built on physical endurance. And you know when you two sets down you know you've got a long way physically to go you know. I think we all talked about have strong. Lender was physically in his comeback in the eighty. Four five against macomer. That was the building block. Lenders Physical Strength. Allowed him back into the match. Well Chang didn't have the physical strength in this match. She was cramping he. He had to use his mind to to tactically. Beat lendl which is an incredible feat to do as well to be to think so clearly when your body is so tired and yet to kind of scramble the mind the dominant world number one is is is remarkable And he did it with the culmination that we've described of the slogan Moon Boiling Arc in the bowl back and forth towards the end of the match. He started standing on the service line and T to return half are threatening lendl a little bit like we saw Gabriela Sabatini the the other day just just giving different looks and then there was the ultimate those. The underarm serve which just took on a legend really of its own but when you actually looked at the shot itself it was a genius shop because that was. I think the best underarms I've seen of all the ones we've seen nick curious and all the other players hit. He hit it with vicious slice at the very last second. Totally disguised and lendl was flummoxed. Get off the line. I it doesn't exist so much spin on it and lendl does actually successfully return it but he he's. He's not able to get nearly enough on the ball in he. He turns his back on. And it's interesting. He doesn't the E. Sorry Lendl tens back on Chang and he doesn't. It's such a mature reaction actually as much as it's a frustration because he's not pissed off with Chang hitting the underarm service pissed off with himself. He turns his back on trying. And he's tapping at his head as he walks back as if to say if I were thinking more clearly whether he's thinking if I was thinking more clearly I would have dealt with that better or proxies. Thinking should have seen this coming. I don't know I mean it seemed so unforeseen for for everybody watching An it it was such a perfect tactic. And it's it's funny. I find the the double-faults point that was completely elicited by Chang's Service. Return of serve position. Which is a total troll. I mean he's basically basically standing on the service line to receive and Len Lendl the Ironman the mental Colossus double-faults on match point because he's completely flummoxed by what Michael Chang is I mean that's the me is almost as extraordinary moment but because the underarm serve it come before it's it's it's overshadowed. I feel like that moment could have gone down in legend in its own right. Let's find out about what Michael Chang was thinking when he made that. Play Catherine the underarm serve and how he felt about becoming the poster boy for it..
"gabriela sabatini" Discussed on The Tennis Podcast
"We've debated whether a Lavin type Roy -very as we've had with with federal in Adul- and Borgen McEnroe is is better than an. I grow rivalry like between McEnroe and lendl in McEnroe and Connors and I'm one of the things merry was talking about during during our chat last week was that mcenery describes board as his greatest rival and she always corrects him and says he's your greatest rival. He's your favorite rival. And there's a difference will Martino in Chrissy seemed to be able to have a lovin and a standoff all at once which is just incredible. I I wish I could have experienced it firsthand already. Because sometimes I think the the the really cozy relationships between players can get in the way and sometimes impact how you view. It's as as a spectator whereas once they had finished the pleasantries that started the match. I feel like virtually everybody watching picks aside. I'm Chrissie I'm not saying. And they stay like now all the way through. Maybe they. Maybe they switch. Maybe something makes them switch halfway through. But you don't stay impartial. You you care about who wins. And then right at the end of the match and they've just talked for three hours the warmth between them at the net and it wasn't Saccharin. Sweet it was just genuine warms between the two of them and it was lovely. It was lovely to witness. And you felt like you've not only witnessed a fantastic sporting occasion. You witnessed the best of humanity in Sporting Arena. And it was just just lovely. It was such a different failed to the end of the Macro. Moleno match that we walked yesterday. Then lender gave one word Makmur walked off and Makomo cabal even look cut Landau and then here. We are never saliva Chris. Ever sharing sharing the same stage sharing the same same spotlight joking with each other and never slave is being in France with the Speaking to the crowd but I just think that they probably just enough distance as well to to really not be a complete love and as you said they were as Chris says well. There were moments of ups and downs. I think they started playing doubles together quite a lot but then Chris ever has admitted that when she began to fail a bit threatened by Navratilova on the singles court. She dissolved that doubles partnership. And then we just singles rivals and I think when Navratilova started working with Nancy Lieberman Leiberman. She kind of told Navratilova. You can't really be friends with Chris ever and I think there was a couple of years of distance there as well and yet they both those were the only two understood each other because those were the only two in the locker room eighty times in that career but they were on different emotional planes because they were rivals if one was up the other was inevitably down yet. They understood exactly how the other was feeding and come for each other and support each other services. Just perfect it had. It had both had the encore rivalry. And you didn't really think about their friendship while they're playing but then once it's finished it's it's nice to life becomes bigger than tennis. I suppose and this rivalry is the one that makes me feel quite emotional. Really which may be of got no right to. Because I don't have the first time and feelings of having lived through it but ordinarily I would prefer the agro rivalry I prefer McEnroe. Lendl to to mcenery Borg. I loved what we watched yesterday. That that photo of McEnroe Lendl which is on all of our social media. I can't stop looking at it. It just catches so much about that moment about sports about about the the he the dynamic between these two and usually I would go for that any day love in but I think in fact I no it's because they're women Martina and Chrissy and women are pitted against one another women. The world wants women to be rivals. The world wants to be in competition with one another. And they want women to Hato one. Another allotted the time and they were so pitted against one another in the media. They were presented as as total opposites. You know originally a guardian piece by Janette how it in two thousand and five about how Martinez was other. You know she was. She was not the the Feminine Ideal and Chris Evert made made people feel comfortable because she made people feel like Oh. A great female athlete can be Feminine. And as you'll hear in the the full Kris avid interview which will will be running during Chris every week and a couple of times and it was just so fascinating and insightful. It was ally those. These a Christie's woods has that that presentation of her in the media was was all alive. But it's it's a reflection of the media. Wanted them to be with the world wanted them to be and they didn't buy into that. They develop their own extremely unique way if being rivals and a love that I it really makes me feel quite emotional this match that we've selected to cover for this particular edition of Rolling Garage. Relieved perfectly encapsulates the rivalry from start to finish it. I fail maybe you could say perhaps with the winner being Martina would be another way to capture it given she one slightly more of them. Actually that didn't really matter though. This was about them bringing to the table what they had and when when we were coming to select this. I think Youtube decided. Let's go for eighty-five French Open. I was looking at the fact that they faced each other in eighty four eighty five eighty six. It was Mary who had initially come up with the idea of cover the series that they had against each other. The runner finals America. A against one another the French Open and I hadn't really been that aware of this eighty five match but having just watched it it was. It was perfect and the back story. I I also find really interesting because a year before Martinez had had one in the final. They'd played she came into this fund the world number-one she'd one two hundred ninety six matches and lost just eight since nineteen eighty two. That was a stat. Nbc puts up an between the two of them. She hadn't lost any matches. David is the The NBC Komen. She pointed out many times since am becoming a glosses wherever in March earlier that year much full. Free month's unbeaten glasses. It was according to the at the time of really important stat. Youtube both wearing glasses and Youtube. Both have an unbeaten record against me. Who's not wearing glasses? I might be being stereotypical about glasses whereas but I feel like I can afford to be because am losses. Where do you reckon the person who came up with the stats was glasses? Wherever very much d really really wanNA make of it. Also I mean the rivalry wise. We talk about. How close their rivalry watts? But going into this match. Martina had one twenty one out of their twenty five most recent meetings so she is dominating Chris Evert and it's quite interesting ever to had won a very recent one in Miami earlier that year and she said in an interview before the match I think a broken the psychological barrier which was an interesting play Verona and and she also had a fascinating run to the final playing both a fifteen year old Steffi Graf and a fifteen year old Gabriela Sabatini unbeaten both along the way I mean. It's it's remarkable. Isn't it given the importance that they would play in? These two players lives in the future. They would effectively retire. Chris. Evert's between them and I and even when you look at it just as as a sort of Grand Slam title thing. We were talking about this. Yesterday would would lendl coming in with zero grand slams and ending with eight mcenery coming in with five and ending up on fewer on seven and here had ever to Got Sixteen. Never delivered got eleven and it was just this little this little rice. And we're seeing this in present day this vying for historical supremacy and I mean it's it's the most perfect tending that the end up eighteen piece but this match on its own. It had everything because Chris ever just rose slightly reinvented itself seemed for it and she took the fight to Navratilova. And and it's something that I'd never seen because I've ever watched them actually grass courts at Wimbledon wear her baseline game. Her reactive game was was not able to cope with with with Martina grape. Watch and I think it's a real testament to Chris ever that she did reinvent herself in this period. You know I think we've heard the stats there. Martina was dominating their rivalry and Chris. Evert realized she had to do something a little bit different. It wasn't like she completely transformed the game. But in this in this match against Martina she manages to pay in Montana to the baseline and not allow Navratilova to get forward as much as she wanted to. And I think basically Martinez coach time. It said if Martinez allowed to get forward she's GonNa win like you have to stop doing that and Chris Evert. It was the only one who had a chance to to do that. With the capability shed and game the fact that she added a bit a little bit more groundstrokes think but I just think it's impressive the that she did it. You know we we will actually Makomo. Yesterday Collins kept stressing that Makomo basically taken board out of the game with the return of serve two forehand coming in and knocking off the volley ball oversee a great champion himself but he didn't kind of reinvent his game to deal with what. Makomo starting at him but Chris ever really did and off do they. Match a rivalry. Never sit over was more even again. kind of moved into that forth phase. Where I think you're oversee. They played their own guys. Funnel the next the air which whichever one and it was a close rivalry again and this match was under the turning point and it was. It was the moment of Chris. Evert realizing that she has to do something a little bit different and being willing to do it and possibly a slight assist to the Perez that day because it was very very windy. In fact. There's a story that Pam Shriver who Martina went on to win the women's doubles title with the next day on the Sunday Pam. Shriver woke up on the Saturday. Of course she was planning to watch her partners Much against Chris Evert and she says she. She looked out of the window. Saw Store that I think it had stormed out morning. It'd been a big storm drains and saw that it was was breezy and she says to herself Chris Chance. Today and that in spite of the fact that that she'd wanted just one of their previous sixteen matches you know she was the. She was the heavy favorite before that much Nevada. But as you mentioned David she'd got that one win in in Miami earlier in the year and in NBC coverage that we will there was a pre pre much. I guess it was done the day before after her semi-final win over Sabatini interview with Christopher. And she says in that much quite sort of wistfully she says well. I mean the rival was raised..
"gabriela sabatini" Discussed on The Tennis Podcast
"I think it's interesting. How we said this was have fourth fourth title in Rome. Sometimes when a player is so dominant the crowd can actually get you know configured a bit apathetic towards it. They're gonNA want a new champion but there was no sense of that which satiny whatsoever they absolutely loved As you said. Some show actually coincides with the weekend. Sabatini celebrated her fiftieth birthday. Kind of coincidentally for US really. There's been a lot of articles about Sabatini has just been fascinating and this match is actually featured in a lot of those articles it feels like a defining moment in her career and I read. I read a line from theon which is a newspaper in in Argentina which said that the the sensical transformed into Gabby land area and when she played there was a special magnetism that radiated from the call and even just watching on the screen. You can kind of fail. Failed that presence that she had on the court so those were the those percent of the things that most most struck me. She was the perfect player for them. Many ways wasn't she and she fed off their energy as well. It seems to me and she knows she's not. She's not demonstrative player in terms of milking crowds or or orchestrating. Or anything like that but at the same time. The some of the the nonchalance at the net for instance when she would she would come in and set up volleys for herself and have total faith in her ability to just hit an exquisite touch shot. And it seemed to me. She was almost overdoing the nonchalance more than she needed to just because she knew the crowd would love that and because she kids and it looked like it. It came as easily to hurt to hit a a deft drop. Volley dug out from her feet is to hit a simple forehand. Put-aways IS MY DAD. Would put it. She was. She was hitting three-year-old shots. When one year shots would have been enough but she was. She's making them every time it was. You know some of them were almost no. Let call follies as you're actually. It was if the wasn't the kind of showboating in a in an in your face way. She wasn't trying to trying to embarrass selfish but she was just showing how good she is. She was letting it was. I suppose it's like a player with that Kinda game who's just in the zone and failing and is going to show you and there's something so amazing about not only beating a player of suspicious quality in her prime but doing it with style doing it memorably not just not completely catching sash. On a bad day she she imposed her own game and made salish as you said. Look a little bit cumbersome at times as as John McEnroe's said after his one thousand nine hundred eighty three Wimbledon. Fine when Iva Chris Lewis. I want it the way they wanted me to win it Also I think there are some kind of power load drawer about against salish with players. That play against Djokovic today who has this relentlessness and how you and Earth GonNa stop him and make him kind of malfunction and there's one or two players that absolutely on their best day maybe not even for the full duration of match for periods have the ability of the variety to just messing up and and be able to take him out of his comfort zone. We saw will onto federal in a little while from that find against. Dow He had the same challenge against the Dow on clay but Sabatini just could not have executed her game plan better and she's done. She's four cents in a row against her in Rome in the final and as as we were saying were watching the match and we were just Kinda drooling about her tennis and yet she was formed out and it didn't feel like that no it never felt like she was down in the school did it and she she made she made. Monica Sellers Look Pretty Limited in that much. I mean from from quite early on Monica Seles. Real Dejection about as we've said that the the magnetism Gabriela Sabatini. It'll may seem to draw all of the the aura that you'd have expected Monica Seles to to have with a ranking and prowess at the time you could you could see her shrink you could feel has shrink on that court because Sabatini during everything towards her into her orbit and it was. It was very strange to think that you're watching the world number one the dominant player out there. Because just didn't didn't look during that match if an alien drop from space and it was just watching tennis match missiles to say he's the world number one an favorite for everything. At the moment you would would absolutely say Sabatini would a shame that she didn't play longer. Yeah well that's right. She retired at the age of twenty six. What would have been four years later? Which which is quite jarring to think about and we will be covering another one. I've had great not she's during Wimbledon. Actually we've already picked it out so we won't go too deep into that just to the moment there's plenty to be going on with but yeah it was a short career. I mean that's the same age as beyond Borg retired for the first time at least but there's never been a comeback from Sabatini. Never suggestion of one. Either she was she was Roger. Federer is childhood crush. I read in a piece that Simon Briggs did on her Late last week but she's only twelve years older than federal because of because of how young she retired. You think of someone you think of her as someone from way way back when she hasn't been in our consciousness for for so long maybe she's been doing punditry. Gorkhas work in Argentina. She's certainly not to my knowledge in consciousness. Been around tennis. And as as you've pointed out in a couple of shows recently David unless you unless you in the greatest of all time debate all war you hold a record that a current player is chasing. All your somebody keeps himself relevant by sort of saying controversial things about current tennis. You get forgotten you get forgotten end the longer ago. You chievements achievements were the mood. That's the case. And and if she's only just ten fifty but somehow it feels like she's in Tennessee's distant paused which is such as being one of the Nice things actually of this weekend turning fifty is made everybody remember her. There have been as you say lots of profiles. Lots of the greats of the game remembering her was actually Steve. Who's piece about become turning fifty gave me? That line was his line to be fair. If you're not in the goat discussion you're lucky to be in the discussion at all. And but what it did for me as it did joke my memory because I have just suppressed so many tennis memories from that period of time. And we'll we laugh about how recall all this stuff in the nights this because I'd kind of almost corona virus type time available to me because I wasn't the faintest been interested in my studies and so all of us was watching tennis. I've got all this stuff that just came bubbling to the surface. When I was watching this match just before I get onto that doormat that there was a moment in the match a couple of times when we all just laughed out loud because of the service return position that Sabatini was taking up described. That well yes was serving on the on the side and almost the best way to describe it is that Sabatini was returning from almost the ad side. She'd step two so far across to get the bowl on her forehand for the return. It was like it was like intimidation. Tactics mind game tactics and yeah. I've never seen a return of position light. That was there in a straight line down the middle of the call. The way they were both stood Serving Sabatini Attorney and she did this Multiple Times. But the funny thing was it wasn't like she would then tee off on their return and smack less four and winter. She would play an aggressive shot but she didn't really have that massive powerful forehand in her ass. No it was all. It was all in the mind games of saying it's tempting sash to to hit the hardest served than she normally would and yeah it just it just worked a treat and it's just a demonstration of how much she was thinking out there and how and how clever her tennis was what I loved about it was that she was creeping up as well. you sort of tiptoeing. She did it as I can. You see me I'm just kind of creep up to the service line now. Hokey just in your peripheral vision. You WanNA serve out there because I'm going to absolutely leather is if you don't and of course as you say she really didn't have that sort of explosive game but it was very very funny to watch. I've I've not seen a court position quite like that before a member Tim. Henman used to do quite a lot of moving around on the return and I never felt it worked for him at all. You Know He. He used to kind of move in a lateral wage. Just when the player was about to serve which. I'm not really sure you're you're supposed to do by the role. He did. Little SORT OF GENTLE. Skip didn't they. From sides it was very very very gentle and I got I tended to get the sense. The planet on the other end was going. What isn't that's going to put me off. I mean come on but Sabatini back then that was right in my wilderness years of of lack of direction but my will be making me worried about David Law. Circa one thousand nine hundred. What's yeah there's plenty of reward? I can tell you gone really dark watching Sabatini play the other day. Just just watching it. That reminded me that I feel like she'll must've she didn't teach me how to play because play tennis really taught me how to watch tennis. She taught me how strokes work she taught me. How the options? What you can do on a court and I feel like the difference was in this match. There was a real purpose to every stroke. Sometimes if you watched all Sabatini matches and maybe just because I was so young in my in my watching all of it and not really understanding it yet. It was almost like I play tennis computer games and think of Sabatini strokes because I would think right if I move it here. I can hit a toxin backhand or if I'd move it that way diagonally on the joystick. I hit a sliced backhand and almost just do it for entertainment friends. Tiny myself just to see what what happens if I do a top spin on what happens if I do a slice and when you watch Sabatini at times I kind of feel like that's almost going through her head I've got I could do anything with this ball. I could moon moonball. I could a nice short back and say none of them will be enough to guy for winners but my word. They look beautiful when they're just sort of painting the court this midway through the second set. She started during salish into moon-balling didn't she?.
"gabriela sabatini" Discussed on The Body Serve
"We are Fed Cup. Didn't they didn't exactly want it but they got it. Thanks to Gerard. Pk We thought it would be absolutely dire with the Davis Cub. And we didn't. We didn't need it as much as we thought we you know. Oh really well I was basically apathetic. I mean you weren't going to pay attention to it regardless fair fair enough for me. I didn't hate it as much as I thought I would. So I'm going to withhold judgment as of right now. I think it's Asinine well. Why is the finals of twenty twenty in the fourth month of the year? I do you know what I mean. It seems like a little too soon. Anyway let's go through the winners of the past few weeks. We've been away a litany of winners and it's two weeks of tournaments that we we missed the first week. Wto was all doing Fed Cup so there weren't any maindraw tournaments so for the men they were in court Yoga Argentina. And Your Bill. Yes Boo cleese young. I mean one of your boobs. I should say gutting beats digger Schwartzman in the final four his third title last year and really his third title in the last twelve months Alan Clay so far in poona. India is one of the tournaments that survived. Because I think Puna used to be in January before the Australian. That's the one that Stan won a bunch of times yeah year eventually beat harass him off Belorussian and in moped. Yea that's where most is word that week Gomel fees wins mobile again. This is the French. Feast the tournaments on all the FRENCHIES. Come out to play visas. Wanted a few times. It's gals thirtieth final. And that was his ninth win spoiler alert. He just got his tenth win this week. Two weeks in a row movies has one of the worst finals records in the history of tennis. He does but a great status that he's reached a final every year since two thousand six sixteen years during right. That's fifteen fifteen okay a lot a lot but one of the big stories of that week was the finalist. At least in North America was the big story Shaq hospice ill who has been all over the map as far as results but over the past six months has really started to put his career together. Sean Bright in Davis Cup Sean. Years and that the Word Sean. Shown Shash on shined like your Rochester and ISM is dragging. I don't own a little bit past tense of shine is. I don't know which is Sean. Okay faster than Sean. So it's like my brother's name fine. He shine bright like a diamond in Davis Cup helping candidate the finals. He won two consecutive challengers. At the end of the year to be fair to Russia he was coming back from injury. He didn't just fall off a cliff with his play. No no no. But he's he's worked his way back but this week or last week he beat better. Nay His countrymen Dunlap Olov Richard gasquet angle to reach the file. Let's circle back to monsieur. Murphy's over because he has this reputation of being a lightning rod onto were an inconsistent player. Somebody who doesn't dedicate himself to the sport as would befit his talent and I should hope that the last couple years at least would have laid that to rest you know. Maybe I've fallen prey to that narrative a little bit because he's been out here playing high level tennis for fifteen years. I don't think dedication is the word. Because I think he's always here and he's always fit but his brain and matches is sometimes a question mark and his strategy like he is playing excellent defense and he has been for fifteen years. But that's not always enough against the best players in him. The Thailand Open Magdalene Net. Beats Leoni. Come? You'd be forgiven. If you have never heard of misconduct I hadn't I hadn't she's from Switzerland. She was ranked two hundred eighty three. She beat Wong Chung in the quarter finals of the tournament. Saint Petersburg Russia had a great draw. A bunch of top players. Kiki Burton's wins her tent title. Just like Mo feasted this week. They both defended. Yes so Burton's beat Rebe Akina in the final REBA. Kina who we mentioned during the Australian Open was one of the most low key top thirty seats ever ride like she seems like she's come out of nowhere but she is some minting her position right now. Some other notable results in Saint Petersburg Alexandrova beat number seven wreckage number three after that great week in Fed Cup soccer beats number one bench. You had mentioned that. Murphy's one again this week that was in Rotterdam. This is a good time of year for him now. Two years in a row. He's had strong strong. February's in back to back sees me. Yeah so defends his title here in Rotterdam Netherlands. We get the first ATV final with two black players in eight years and really there haven't been that many. At History Felix Oj seen gets to his fourth final. His first at the five hundred level put together a great week beating Strove Dimitrov Dimitrov beach up of all of who is not really on a great run at the moment Felix. Also be better than A and cutting. No boostup still can't get over the finals Hump. But you know Bjorn. Borg Lost Four finals before winning his first. This is not. This is the third or fourth for feelings as four for. He's getting there. I was surprised to hear that Felix had made his second semifinal of the year because his performance at ATP Cup was so dire that that kind of close my my view of him so far right in twenty twenty but he had made a semifinal and he's rediscovered some form here. He was one win away. Meaning if he had beaten Morpheus in the final he would have supplanted Dennis as the number one Canadian and cracked the top fifteen for the first time and he has been the number one Canadian before this is a nineteen year. Old Kid has been in. Four finals already has been the top. Canadian has been top twenty because his rise didn't happen at Grand Slams really quickly. I think it's easy for us to say. Oh He's been a little disappointing but this is the normal trajectory for a lot of young players just because someone liked seats plus one the ATP finals and has been in the late stage of slams doesn't mean that's normal or to be expected a lot of times it means you might have a more lengthy career if you're a late bloomer. Feeling also developing physically. I think that's more unique to him than a lot of the other younger guys Felix doesn't feel he's or looked like he's quite dairy physically right and so it's his talent that's been carrying him so far and I presume that he will continue to develop in both ways town ones and physically. And that's why folks look to him more than say necessarily Dennis as the one to really watch from Canada going forward as for Mr Shelve. His temper has been a problem to be frank it. It's weird because the heavy forgotten that you nearly blinded and umpire because of your temper. I know that most people in tennis have asked. Just forget and move on and we have. We never bring it up anymore. No but it happened and when you start to see this stuff over and over from Dennis. His temper is very ugly and there's been a lot of racket-smashing and and sort of nastiness toward umpires. You'd think somebody who went through well who committed by accident such a horrible thing. He would change the verb there. Yes that was very important. No because a lot of people framed as something passive. That happened to Dennis. He did it. He didn't intend to do it but he was the one who swung his racket. Hit the ball and hit on fire in the eyeball like that. Wasn't somebody else. You think that somebody who did something like that and lived through the repercussions would be a little more mindful somebody who lived through it and was cuddled through it to be frank until I. I couldn't imagine the immediate shame in the moment like that has to be almost traumatic that you did that to somebody. Just don't forget it if he's forgotten it go back and watch on tape and let that guide you going forward because this this stuff and it isn't it and you need to be better and I was like almost ready to stand on us. I just need a need him to calm down. That was a surprising twist to start the. I'm you tell you right UENO's. Ira's Casper rude wins. His first title versus Pedroso. The Portuguese player Gabriela Sabatini presented the trophy and had a number of Nice moments with customer road. Very cute do you know what the legend he can. No say to his father suck it daddy because he's no ranked higher than his daddy ever will really has died Christian Ruud. I don't think he would say that his father no. I don't think so. Not In those words the New York Open. So was the thing that happened. The New York New York Open has started in Memphis and relocated to long island to get those cute guitar trophy. Yeah yeah all those guitars. That Kennedy Corey go to remember a few times four guitars. But since it's gone to New York man it is full of turmoil I mean. By sorta there has been fiasco. I'm still practicing. My spend BUZZER WITHOUT. There has been empty stadiums. There's been ivy. Riley Polka won the tournament last year. There been a lot of Americans in the later stages who like. I don't know if you're in long island like who is coming out for John is ner really. The most famous long islander is Mariah Carey and I feel offended that this tournament is besmirching her birth. You know like Billy Joel Okay. He's somebody I guess. John McEnroe okay. Listen to tournaments try. It's just weird to me. It's a very strange time of the calendar and it's weird place to put it long island February during school like who is going. It's just weird and you can see it. I don't think it's been a massive success as far as getting spectators out there. I don't I don't buy that. It's an indoor tournament. Were indoor any number of other places in the world it would do better like there's something particularly stench for about the story there is it's indoors you can do day sessions. You can do. Net sessions kids. Go to school. Parents take them to the night session. Like what is not adding. Yeah I know but like you've been through winters in the US. Nobody does anything really like in February. Nobody goes anywhere if they don't have to people are still going to the raptors games. Just wanted that's different. Listen I think it's just a it's a really tough draw especially if you're getting players like no disrespect to a Polka but like oh Palca sock is mirror a bunch of probably players from other countries. That people don't know about their for that. We got the wildcards for Jack sock and ran Harrison to make sure the seats were filled and even in New York. They'll root for somebody else against them. But Kyle Edmund wins his third career title defeating Andrea. Sepe Kyle is a feel good thing for Kyle. Because he's been through the Wilderness. He's He's been through a lot like he's had a few years of just dire results after really breaking out and he had endured that cringe-worthy utterly catastrophic. F- Mary kill segment that the New York open social media team. Did I mean Kudo said like Mary killed? Go Mary Ghost. Something's white bread. I Dunno some computer almost swiped right but also I will give them slight credit for presenting that format for countertop lights men and women equally without it being presented in a like. Laffy jokey how engaged I.
"gabriela sabatini" Discussed on The Body Serve
"Yeah a lot of the folks that we read were. Tennis BEAT WRITERS DURING THAT TIME. Where being paid to go to these tournaments. That doesn't happen anymore. So the only person I can really think of in now in a North American sense is Christopher cleary like Christopher clearing it as something like that. Yeah it would have been a problem. I think in the stanage but we just don't have the opportunity for that to happen. I do think that the media is still very capable. Oh Yes yes. But there is a feedback loop that did not exist in ninety two like the immediacy of criticism. That reporter's face is new. Relatively yes in the same way that Monica is able to control the narrative of her career and her life the way that she couldn't a social media age she's an able to be protected from that setting. Because it's not there right right and again at the same time. In this era of dominance there are these constant critiques. But there's also all absolute awe it. What she's able to do on a tennis court and at some point does almost rise. To the level of Serena Roger Effort this really the question of. Can Anyone beat this person? Can anyone stop this? Run of dominance and what it distills to is her mental toughness in the second era. The main thing that's written about with Monica Seles. It's not just her shots. It's not just her. Winning is the fact that her will is unbreakable that she will will herself to win in any situation. And that is something that unfortunately seems to change posts stabbing right if you did not live through this era as a tennis fan and I did not some of the stats are unbelievable in Monaco's first fourteen grand slams that she played she won eight. How like how is that possible? That's not something you will ever see. Replicated I don't think she was already a five time Grand Slam champion at eighteen. Chris Evert marveled at her mental will Martina Navratilova. Like I said before. Said that she could render the tour extinct press basically credited Monica for Ushering Martina out of the game which not entirely drew. But you hear people say things like nationals thirty four thirty five years old still a top ten player come on. It's like people talk about federal. Now it's like Oh my God. He's losing it and it's like do he. Is Thirty eight years old? Why I think folks talked about her mental strength and heart. A lot was because it. It was what made her pass the test. Yes she had. The powerful strokes shed actually grape variety in her shots. She could hit any shot even though she had two hands on both both wings. Have the biggest serve but she placed it well. It was deep enough when you watch Monica play. Against some of these players the score wasn't always a blitz. She wasn't always blowing people off the court a lot of people that she was beating. They could hang with her for bits and the majority of much but in the end Monaco was. It's like she was a dog with a rope that you can't get rid of it. You can't the rope from the dog's mouth. They're just not going to let it go. That's what it was to play Monica. That time shed all the talent but we know so. Many players have all the talent and in a sport like tennis. You lose so many times you can lose all the time you can wake up and have a bad day. Your game isn't going to be enough to carry to the finish line everyday but Monica had that extra something during that time. So in the middle of this historic run dominance putting together a seasons that rival some of the best seasons in the history of tennis everything in April nineteen ninety three. She goes to Hamburg to play clay-court tournament in her quarterfinal against Magdalena Maleeva. On a changeover. She is stabbed in the back by a person named Guenter Parche with a twelve centimeter boning. Knife she lunges forward and Mrs really what if could have been catastrophic blow to her back. The knife hits under her shoulder blade millimeters away from her spine. Parsh- is tackled by spectators before he can wind up and take another shot at her and this sport all-sports perhaps are changed forever. There aren't enough words. There aren't the proper words to put this one incident into proper context for all sport. Not Tennis it's a preset with this episode for well over a month doing research and all that did so much reading and I still. I can't fathom what it must have been like to go through that to fathom what it was like to try and recover from that to fathom what it was like to watch the media. React to you going through that. It was it's indescribable truly. It's a it's difficult to understand. Even now you know more than twenty five years out from it. It's hard to talk about and you know I don't even live through it as a fan. I didn't know what was happening when I was kid. So we don't want to dwell on the incident itself but more of the fallout Because Monica is so much more than this incident right and even though one of the things that is lamented most about this incident in how it changed tennis. History is what Monica's place in that history could have been had this not happened and that is undeniable. There's no way we will ever know what could have been. And that's obviously something that Monaco has had to live with and maybe she has made her peace with it. And so why are we here still having that burden right? We don't want that to to be the overriding narrative. Looking back at Monica's career win this Amazon. Because her contributions to the sport were so great and her determination and her doggedness and her fight and her talent still shine so brightly upon her. Return to the tour till the time that she retired. Just a few things that I wanted to point out because I I feel like a lot of the context has been lost in all these years. Is that initially? It was thought that the stabbing was related to the turmoil that was going on Yougoslavia in Germany at the time there were ethnically motivated attacks against ethnic Serbs in Germany and several different cities. This was read in the context of anti immigration hysteria in Germany. At the time she as we said had been receiving death rates for two years there was a bomb threat at Wimbledon. And you can see this in the context of the SELLA's families need as I said earlier almost paranoid. But you can see that this need for security and privacy was actually well founded the fact they put this six foot or ten foot stucco wall around their compound in Florida that was behind to lock gates. Maybe that need for security had some re- like realistic underpinnings. And so this event when you're very exposed but your your your workplace you're doing what you love and you're attacked how. How does that? Leave you as an athlete who already had fears for her safety before this happened. Which was probably manifested in her. Trying to distance herself from the political conflicts in Yugoslavia. At the time right. She is from Serbian Area of Yugoslavia. But she is ethnically Hungarian. She's a Hungarian speaker but Serbs in Germany. Took this 'cause on. They protested outside of her hospital room in support of Monica. They were very upset that the tournament went on. Which is something. That's another discussion to how that the fact that this tournament in Hamburg continued in the context of the stabbing the fact that this person who did it was a Steffi Graf fanatic. She continued it must have been. Obviously we can't even imagine what it was like four Steffi to be in that situation but his his purpose was to punish Monica Selous for overtaking Steffi Graf to remove her from the number one position and the incredibly tragic thing is that he was successful. He did that Steffi. Graf won the next four majors. She became a twenty two time Grand Slam winner. And of course we don't know what would have happened. Had Monica stayed in the game but now she has an asterisk in effect. Greg aside her name in tennis history books and that was by design what Parse set out to do. He did he accomplished and he served no time for it. He said that he was. I truly disturbed by what was going on when Monica in effect had the gall to come to Berlin and beat Steffi on homes on his home soil. That was in one thousand. Nine hundred ninety and Parsh- says in his interrogation said that's when he decided that something be done so this was like three years in the making that this guy was plotting to do something to harmonica sellers so just think about the though the discourse surrounding Monica as being paranoid for her privacy and her secrecy for the entirety of her career. Pretty much up until that point when in fact we now know that allow lunatic was out there planning to do her harm this entire time. Just binding and waiting for the right moment. And so the media. The sports media place so fast and loose with what they're able to do and say and write about people that it's it's actually disgusting. You're right in that. It has gotten a little bit better in recent times but these sports writers say all kinds of messed up stuff for sport in that era and previously when somebody new comes on the scene. There's this natural tendency to done. Compare them to the old guard in order to to understand Monica so you had to compare her to Martina Navratilova and it helped that. They've played each other so many times. They actually had a full throated rivalry in the ninety S. Somehow and that's something that we are grateful for that we can go back and watch on Youtube but Wendy. Sport writers got to their typewriters. They talk about Monica as the screeching starlet. And then I read somewhere in the same breath referring to Martina Navratilova as the braying mayor. Like are you kidding me? That is wild to me that you could refer to a woman or an athlete of any stature. Let alone too low. But at that time as a braying mayor right and I think it is something that happens less and less now. Yes because of the P. C. Brigade as they're called so Monica was stabbed in Hamburg. The fallout from that over the next two and a half years dominates a lot of the tennis headlines in the interim Steffi Graf on Orange Incentives macario dominate. Women's tennis. Bright. They form A rivalry that may not have happened if that incident had not happened in Hamburg in nineteen ninety-three and that is what kind of brought me to tennis. So I feel extremely conflicted about it because I was in Iran Japan initially and those matches against Steffi. Graf were some of my earliest memories of tennis. But we want to talk about here. No is what that process was like for Monica and media narrative surrounding her will. She won't she. When will she return to tennis shortly? After the incident less than a month. Jerry Smith you'll remember him from the Wimbledon withdrawal incident the head of the WTA organizes this hasty vote. Seventeen of the top twenty. Five women voted whether or not Monica Seles should retain her number. One ranking indefinitely. Everyone voted no except for one abstention. Gabriela Sabatini who Monica continues to hold in very high regard. It's no accident that Monica had such nice things to say about her. In her first autobiography given that she was the only one that obtained or did not vote to take away her number one ranking. Monaco writes that she was extremely hurt. At the time she said quote it felt like everyone benefited from the stabbing except me. They just wanted me to go away at felt like and this of course wasn't helped by the fact that graph quickly returned to number one that she won the next four..
"gabriela sabatini" Discussed on The Tennis.com Podcast
"You g you just can't let them down the haters, right? That's awesome. Well, so the French Open is coming up soon. Obviously, you have some fun memories of that slam. Do you think you'll make an appearance this year? Is it a slam that you go to every one of the things that I do g status on the camps and clinics is that I bring people to run slams? I have teak trips to Runtime. So I have eight or nine clients that are coming with me. So be the second week. Some young really looking forward to it. I'm super excited. There's a foot Rican girl qualified for the juniors loden unsettled surname. To the next player after Monica that has some potential to perhaps be atro- someday. Some in been helping her out on communication with her, and her mom. I give some financial help throughout the way in mental and emotional support so really excited that you qualify. Because gets to your play there. So we'll get to that. What do you? What's your preference? Is it French Open isn't real anger? What's what, what are we supposed to call in? Throws the official way do you, do you have a favorite a favorite member that stands out whenever you? When you go back there, and you're walk in the grounds anything ever hit you because he wanted six times. Ever hit me. My favorite memory Paris is the restaurant lender caught. That is on room are Beth in to either light seven times in two weeks. I was there Aken free. They can free to got up in secret restaurant. In end the winning you know, it was not a favourite grandson to win because we had awed time for matches. It was usually like at eleven AM the day of the finals in the know on there ever. So that was kind of disappointing but yeah, it was funded when I made the final seven years in a row, it was a good good stretch. But I really preferred will in the US open the extra lane open or as far as tennis goes, as far as grand grandson itself. I think is great grand slam because the closest one to the city truly enjoy Paris a CV in still playing around slam. The other ones are hard use open kind of hard to get from your record in women London's to far away. So, yeah, I really enjoyed staying. The Paris life. Jinx, yeah. I see what you mean. They're exactly. I've been to all four so yeah, there's a bit of a difference for sure. I think I think that's pretty much it in terms of this episode with with different is. But I think my only other comment would have been when you look at the players now I mean, I think I've noticed a lot of singles players are actually picking up doubles more than they were before we have young players playing like Dennis. Apollo Shapoval of playing tipped bosses playing Ostapenko is playing doubles. Do you think that there's a shift going back towards doubles or singles players are more interested in it again? No. I think I see. I have I have noticed that it I think it's great because for a lot of years, Obama, a retired twenty years ago when I was playing all the singles players doubles Martina tumor tina's Lucy doubt for tiffy graph ranch Assange's could shoot him or tina's Gabriela Sabatini. They all played. They played doubles. And then there was like a law with no played. I think maybe because of the modified saids, even though I don't like it. The like we were scoring those, but because of that may be some of the players, not a strenuous in the dementia, arouse long. So maybe that's why they're playing. I'm an expense that it definitely feel like it's more more singles friendly. I guess is the right term. Okay. Well, thank you for your time. I really appreciate it. I think this has been really, really interesting and really wasn't really sure which way, we'd go direction. We'd go, but I kind of love where we went with us. I'm glad I enjoyed it. Thank you for having me on the following social media. Yeah, wait. You're at your websites, GD Fernandez tennis dot com. Correct. Yeah. And then your Twitter is you finances. Simple easy..
"gabriela sabatini" Discussed on Newsradio 950 WWJ
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"gabriela sabatini" Discussed on Coming Out Stories
"What does on media? This is coming out stories. Isabel cost about one of the most important conversations. If you life. I'm Emma goal swell. Nancy here a coming out story from a singer songwriter, an actress and Ramblas icon. Yes, it's the peace. Hello Emiko swell. It's the peace. So had the piece is I just thought yourself, you know, well, I might not have some sexualities everyone else it must class, and it didn't really happen. I had boyfriend call Philip drove a beetle. So we for years, he actually said to me, do you think you might be a lesbian and a kind of joke said why'd you say that you've got Gabriela Sabatini posters on new all. And you don't play tennis for anyone for anyone for anyone under the age of kind of thirty five might not know, but beautiful Argentinian stuck chose tennis player. And I did have a very very unhealthy obsession with Gabriele up saying now before and I'm gonna up. Oh my gosh. Google google. And then the other thing that I saw look back on now. So mine mine didn't I didn't know I was gains literally kissed goal on canal street in Mancha, this is for real. But when I look back on also had a book of Princess Di and Charles's Welden, right? And in the middle a little Bluebird book right in the middle was the case, which is leaning about the famous shot of Diana. And I remember being ten years old and being fixed. Waited on her neck, absolutely fixated. And it's only it's only in hindsight after coming out. I go. Oh, oh, what other literally the only lesbian I've ever met that will probably ever say. The Princess earned his neck made them guy. Take a look at about patriots ferry beautiful brought sake always liked that part of woman's body. Yeah. Isn't that funny? Yeah. Next beautiful well done fulfill for what can out that you were. So what stage did you go? I'm gonna come out. Well, I was I was at drama school in Manchester. There was a girl in my ear. She was called, Elaine. We don't mind much record say that quite a bit older than me. And I found out that she was gay. And then I developed a kind of unhealthy obsession. I guess I just I just thought she was amazing. And then we kissed on canal street, and this is true as well wholesome day. Right. I'd always wanted to kiss in the summer rain. I've written a song here called heaven on the heavens opened July diet was boiling hot heavens opened whilst kissing her. That is absolutely true. And just remember getting the boast box host. Yes. Steam coming over her clothes what it stop trying, but you go. So yeah, it was quite quite something. It was like a godly sign. Okay. So that stage, do you even come out anybody? Then that's all I do remember going into unit the next day back to drama school, very aware. I was wearing elaine's clothes. You know that when you walk and see a year twenty four hours in the air on your blatantly wearing her clothes because oversee the soaps, the not before you've stayed there. And yeah, I thought everybody was looking at me I felt different. I remember feeling completely different. I thought everybody was most Bill cannot make because they obviously know these this is a lanes t shirt and no one ever shit. Nobody would nobody. Nobody did not fair. It sort of slowly filtered out, and when I came out we were doing an all female production of Romeo, and Juliet, and I was playing Romeo, of course. Does the moment where he kisses her and she stops. Lutely absolutely would give anything to be with him from that moment on. So I did the case, but we used to rehearse in front of the rest of your year. Everybody don't just found out. I was gay an education this girl in me. I was going to kitchen it was rubbish peck on the Dart's. Heather this is the moment that she absolutely has to lose it. You know incomplete. So you have to just go for it. And I remember just thinking of own it just come out, and I'm literally gonna know the girl in tongs account. Remember, listen. So after she then she brought Maha about eight months later left me for somebody. I was absolutely devastated had punished attacks. Also stuff. I think serious serious mental health stuff went on actually because I also hadn't that point decided that was gay. I I dunno obsession with her. So. Because you had a broken heart. You think because it was a big thing about your sexuality. I think it was a big thing. I think I think haven't been brought Catholic on China tell manner on a deathbed that I think it doesn't matter you'll over and her say, no, I know what you're trying to tell me. A sin. Here. And she was a really amazing woman as well. It's just bring him. I didn't quite get the full sentence out. Then you're talking about though on up -solutely, reiterated the absolutely I'm not even gonna have you say hadn't Homa parents. So yeah, it was it was when when I got my heartbroken started having these punish attacks on a friend of mine. I'm gonna say she's up to actress list Hume Dawson, if you're out there listening, you remember this and she was from Bradford as well. And she's she was a year. But was and she said to me, I'm driving your home to your moment. That's in your coming out to them because you absolutely need to tell them because you're in bits. And that's what happened and they were amazing. They just put the rounds around me and said, I don't care. I'm all minimum said, she said don't ever not talk to me for eighteen months. Again. She said you literates about the weather for the last eight months told me nothing. So a you happy that your friends sort of coerce you into it there. Yeah. It was the right decision. I think I think it was a slippery slope. I'd always taught to minimum. Everything boys and stuff. What was I eighty months? Maneuvered essentially in the close and just very unhappy. Will know the months was wallows with Laney say on. I was in. I was up as anything, you know, being break-up, but not being open about it. No, not being open. But people weren't really I mean, everybody college new just until the parents, I think I told my brother neatest, he just kept it to himself back. Then if you remember ninety five religious upbringing. Regret not thinking, my parents were bigger people than they thought if you know what I mean because I really didn't expect the reaction, and they were amazing. Absolutely amazing. So can you recount the event driven home to come out your parents? What was it like my brother had already got there? I not tell them he went and was there on hand to support. I went in. I sat down. I just said I've got some into tell you. I'm gay. I'm lesbian, but I'm not telling you because I wanted to know I'm telling you because I'm up -solutely heartbroken on the nature and the put around me and said, I knew there was something going on. It's absolutely fine. And we love you. And then I did a complete cowards thing of giving them the news the bombshell, I'm going to Chester and leave him umbrella.
"gabriela sabatini" Discussed on In The Thick
"And I came out the whole in older prisoner gave me a radio because I was into everything in the prison. I was into robbing people sales. And he said listen somebody's gonna hurt. I'm going to give you a radio. So I took the radio plug it in. It was only one station that was W H Y Y. I'm not promoting it. But nice, which is the station Demaria was on. So I'll put it on was like three thirty afternoon. And I'm like. Oh shit eighteen on the radio, and it was Maria. So I went back and told the guys we need to get her up here because I was hearing her every day it was like a half hour show. I remember. So this other guy he was like the prison teacher. He graduated like twenty seven Latinos were g that year. So they gave him the chance to bring the guests because you got to get real here. You got to get her paid. So somehow they got up, but they told me I couldn't go to the graduation. I wasn't graduated and you know, you in the way, so I'll say is school. I'm doing Tom and a corrupt jail. Seriously snow way in the world. I can't get into a graduation. So they bought marine and pay the gar could say that now free, and he let me in and I sat in the same bench with my dad was speaking at Mario was speaking about I remember that day about how you came to New York graduated and about mayor when they ban his takes from WHYY. So when I was when she was done, I said, I'm from New York, and what can I do? And I just looked at me and say, you'll be the voice for the voiceless. And that what inspired me change my life. Simple. Yeah. No. That was deep. Well, you know, because the thing about swab is that he had dreamed about coming to Chicago being at depaul speaking to my students and recording the live show with us. So. You know, it was like a dream come true. And I. You just never know. And that's another reason why we love doing this work Julio is because we never know. What one of us might say. Or one of our guests will say that he's going to transform someone's life. I've said that to a lot of people, you know, be the voice for the people who maybe are not being heard tell us do something. And for wa that was just the thing that he was like, I'm going to change my life. I'm going to learn how to read I'm going to get my GED. I'm going to graduate from college after sixteen years in prison, and you know, and then he was on live with us. It was like it was dreamy. It was absolutely dreaming. Like, I said I'd never had the opportunity to to ask you questions. And I know I know I always said that to you as a journalist as a as a friend. It's hard to be the subject, but I really enjoyed that conversation. And a lot of ways I got to see a little of your not that I don't see her human side all the time money up. But to me like, I learned a lot about you as a friend like my appreciation and respect and love for you like grew so much deeper onstage live. That's why I love the live shows. Thank you. Julia. Boy, we're really getting at each other's emotional sides. We don't usually do that. But because. Here and the beginning on another one. We're like, oh, we we love each other's. I Oh, I love love you. you. So I think you also learned a lot about me when we did our live shows in Mexico City, which you know, were historic because they were first ever international shows also because you came to me to the country of my birth to the city of my birth. And you were able to see and meet Mexican women of which I am proud to be a part of that stock. We were joined by these bad ass Latin American women to talk about the issue of gender violence. We were joined by Gabriela Sabatini, she's the host for the Louvre view Mujica, contributing writer with it by ease and Colombiana Catalina reasonable Rosa columnist with several media outlets and Latin American feminist, and we just love the way that women in Latin America are looking at ways to end this violence that it's from cata calling femicide..
"gabriela sabatini" Discussed on Xtra Sports Radio 1300 AM
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