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589: Gargoyles: Awakening, Parts I-V

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589: Gargoyles: Awakening, Parts I-V

"This Gargoyles Library. I'm your host Dan Moore and welcome to the first episode of this brand new podcast on the incomparable in which we're going to talk about out the Disney show gargoyles which debuted in nineteen ninety four. I've assembled an excellent panel of people who are interested in talking about this very. I'm fine animated television series with me. Are Cathy Campbell. Hi Kathy Hi Dan how are you. I'm great thanks for being here. Thanks for having Avenue Glenn. Fleishman is here. Hi Glen Well you an excellent panel and also me thank you for having your Shannon's other is here as well Shannon Less that not be enough. We've two southerners chips on earth is also here. Hi Chip. Don't you see Dan. None none of this would have happened if it weren't for you. That's probably true. I Apologize I Apologize Rally and rounding out our panel. My good friend Mr Tony Sandler. Hi Tony Hi. What what sorcery is that? Something that was in my notes. I know so. I'm asking you which each type of sorcery Tony Necker. Mitzi who knows citation needed these chapter titles and all right so so we are kicking off this new series by talking about the five episode arc. That begins this show which is entitled awakening but first before we delve into that. We're GONNA talk a little bit more. Broadly about the series. I will say that I saw this when it first aired in nineteen ninety four I remember. I'm pretty pretty sure I watched it at the house of a friend of Mine Antonis and the he and I watched it together and I remember seeing commercials for because I watched a lot of the other Disney afternoon stuff that this was packaged with and this was also one of my earliest memories of a show that I engaged in the Internet to try and figure out like when new episodes were coming on I was actually on a mailing list. I think it was a first mailing list. I was ever on which actually like sent out messages when it's like. Oh there are new episodes because it was so hard to figure out in that day and age when things were repeats and when things the new episodes This show had a big impact on me not only as a writer and a storyteller but also just like it got me interested in things. I read more Shakespeare because of this show I specifically read the play Macbeth because of this show for reasons that become apparent later on so I this is this show. What leads to you being an English major quite possibly you probably draw pretty clear line? Yes so this one. This was a big impact on me. I think it's a wonderful also. It's very unlike a lot of the other stuff. That was airing at the time. And that's why we are. We are not quite at the twenty fifth anniversary. I think that's actually next year. But we're pretty close so you know we'll consider this sort of grandfathered in along those lines so let's go through and see what you guys your experience with the show as a whole how you can't find it et Cetera CETERA. Kathy how did you first encounter gargoyles very similar to you. In fact I was a big Disney afternoon. Fan and this show Oh in particular Is One that so I was twelve twelve when it came out and it was one of the few shows was that my brother and I would ask to watch together like we would enjoy watching it together and then we also would proceed to I. I guess you could kind of think. Fan Fiction E as in like we would take blankets and wrap them around our shoulders to pretend to be our wings to to go flying around the back yard Guess that twelve. 'cause I am Yes. So it had an impact impact on like my relationship with my brother because we would fight over What other shows we would watch but if gargoyles was on we we both would one hundred percent agree on that and I don't think we actually saw so re watching these first five episodes? I think I may have seen in one or two of these five but So the very very beginning was kind of new to me and it was very exciting to Kinda get that refresher her course and actually get the full story. Because I growing up I never really knew shows came on a schedule And it was always just reruns ends in my brain and so learning when I was probably my twenty S. That shows came out new was really exciting. Yeah I mean even more where I think the other shows of this era. There were also notable. I'm thinking of you know Tony's done allows talking about Batman. The inmate series Gargoyles had a much more linear progression. Like the story. He is sequential right things. Early episodes affect things that happen and later up SOS which was not the case with most animated series at this time. So Yeah I can understand saying that being weird too. 'cause like wait a second. The story is not over it continues next week. I have to wait again. That's rough. That's rough Glen. You'RE GONNA put this delicately older. I'm curious to know because in my ear horn. I'm curious no because I know Kathy Myself. Tony I think we were probably all like in the teenage years when we watch this. I'm curious how you you came across this. Explain Yourself. Glenn what's wrong with you. And why are you child. Shouldn't holding point. I'm I'm I watched this during ritual run because back in the nineties everyone recalls. It was hard to watch things again because unless they showed up on television again. or You could program your VHS VHS player. I think I may have recorded this on. VHS VHS to watch the evening as my suspicion. After I worked my job thing I no longer have Ralph not related. Probably you probably. You probably didn't put you out of a job no I I remember watching. This comes off my love of Batman the animated series. He's even though it's very different and the animation style say upfront. It is pretty course compared to Batman series and even some of the things at the time they really did skin game like I enjoy plot a fair amount of dialogue specification all that but anyway. So I'm sure it was because I'd watch Batman the animated series where they think was off the air a new episode by the time this came on is that right. It sounds pretty close to overlapped a little bit. But there's the Oh wait actually looking at the Internet right now but I remember. I pretty sure I watched the original run. I I know it was rerun at times but I don't I know how much so allies episodes familiar and I have a recollection of like. Isn't it. Funny that you forget what technology used twenty years ago. I would come home because I certainly wasn't home like three in the afternoon. I guess I would come home from a job that was away from my house and use my VHS player which I've been correctly programmed to watch later. That's my suspicion at at least But I found it. I had the same reaction to like. I say many ways to Batman the animated series in that thing I loved about that man was how quiet it was how often they are willing to take a pause and have very spare animation and have no dialogue but advance things with like really neat elements and while it wasn't a perfect show. It was really great and in this show. I thought Gosh even in these I I mean there's some stuff in this first five parter but there's always throughout the best. I step aside the show sense of not just moral ambiguity of like. What exactly is the right thing here? Who who's in the is there somebody in the right? Here's here's everybody in the wrong glide is seen as moral center and yet he often makes decisions without enough information so he makes what are wrong choices enough to rectify it so oh I thought it was complex enough even though the plots and things are sometimes very simplified or simplistic You know also having lived in new haven in the late nineteen eighty s into early nineties and my wife having lived in New York it reminds be watching this show again. I'm like Oh yeah. New York was really dangerous when they were running the show their thinking at a time. which like you get like? Oh we can't go to central park at all because we might be set by armed people. If your car breaks down in any neighborhood thugs will come not titians a multi-ethnic. Buffet usually reserved usually reserved for musicals. It's like a Michael Jackson. Gang will come and get you But I think it really did represent. I'm watching. It's a show that I think is very much in love with New York City or a certain version of it doesn't I mean there are things in the show. I even noticed that were very specific. New York Elements anyway it's Disney's pre gentrification Asian New York true. Yeah and it was. It was realistic in that sense. Because there's a lot of lines like you can have an armed band of people shooting machineguns in central park and the police lease they're not gonNA show up. Why would they bother? This is happening all the time. Yeah I think you hit upon one interesting point there too. which is that this is a very undesirable show in that is what probably drew a lot of us to it like compared to certainly a lot of the other stuff? That was airing in the Disney afternoon. I I love things like tailspin dark wing duck but like those were very. Are you traditional cartoons. This was very much a against the grain and that I think is what drew a lot of people in with beauty and the beast the TV sure. That was a few years before it with Ron Perlman. I think they're definitely aspects of the guys Wales. They they even touch upon that more directly later on to at least one episode. I think that that kind of alleged that Yeah there was actually. This show was actually originally developed as a comedy show sort of in the same in vain of Disney's adventures of the gummy bears. The gargoyles we're going to be comedic figures there were there. Were going to be wacky hijinks and I was such that Gargoyles. Yeah yeah very much so and and I think that as they were trying to break the stories they were trying to sell the story They kept getting into roadblocks and they saw the success of Batman the animated series Especially in awakenings. There are moments where the animation feels. It's much more Disney then action adventure. I'm thinking about The character who will become known as Broadway sniffing the algae augie in the rookery. And he'll just looks like a Disney character and that sort of fades as as the series goes on over the years. But but I feel like this was a it was a complicated mix of action adventure in Disney after afternoon. And I don't know that Disney news exactly what to do with it. Even though the show runner Greg Weisman I think clearly did and it turned into it. It turned into a cult favorite. All right with good. With good reason I think Shannon how about you how did you first encounter the show chip and I sort of fell into it together and ship feel free to jump in but I remember vividly one thing. That sort of got US interested is Hearing about it as it was about to come on some of the voice actors that they had the Jonathan frakes marina certes and Michael Dorn all of these star Trek next generation actors. They're all doing this project. Hey okay that sounds interesting. And let's see what's up and of course once. We started watching an interesting story line. The kind of continuity we as as we kept watching the kind of continuity and attention to that that we fell in love with watching Babylon five which is a show that relies incredibly heavily on the continuity. You can't just watch an episode here or there and jump in kind of and Gargoyles in especially later seasons turned into that. If you haven't been watching previous seasons you wouldn't know what the hell is going on relied on that previously on and that works for me. I love love complicated stories. I love stories that get into details. GET INTO CHARACTER ARCS. All of these different characters have journeys and you know once onset had my attention it kept it chip you anything you want to either. I just remember when we get into this specific miniseries. I vividly remember missing the first few minutes of the first episode so when I sat down in front of the television. It's not it. It's the year nine ninety four and I didn't know that this was going to catapult into the future until the end of the episode and they go to an and they show the opening credits late because they didn't want to give away the store and I'm like wait. That's a helicopter yeah I. I'm actually really glad that I missed that. Because that moment of surprise was magnificent. Didn't know they had helicopters ninety four eighty Revisits visit must be some kind of dragon. Tony How `bout you Dan we're similar age and thus are stories a similar. This was part of that block of stuff that you could watch in the afternoon when you were a kid. I was in junior high when this was coming on and you know I was I was. It's the kind of kid who would go for the right. Thank you very much Look I didn't hear your story old Guy Watch a a sizeable block of television while doing my homework work until dinnertime. And I think that block adjusted over the years but Batman. The animated series definitely cornerstone. Gargoyles was another big cornerstone on the next generation. reruns would were a big part of that. So those were I think other Disney afternoon stuff probably most notably dark wing dock. Were big parts of that. This was one of the really big ones And I think some of it was just it. Is this kind of inbetween. Is this a kids cartoon or is it something darker more serious with more a complex storytelling just watching these first five episodes it is. It's interesting where it's like sometimes feels like a kids cartoon and I can see the like the Disney. The afternoon influences and sometimes it's a lot spookier and a lot more complicated. They still pull their punches. A lot with the depictions of violence right like there's a lot of fights in these first five right up besides but there's never violence and there's a lot of like laser guns and just kind of explosions blasting people you know here and there But but yeah I I think this this grabbed me right away as something. That was kind of not necessarily geared directly for younger kids. When there wasn't a lot of that on the era back then there would be a lot more as you know cartoon network would would come and build up a giant empire? You'd have more animated shows on comedy central and things like this but this was this was. Was this early in between thing. What are the things I I would note about it? And this may maybe comparison to to the gummy bear shows here and there. I feel like there's a lot of teenage teenage mutant Ninja Turtles. DNA gargoyles. It said in New York. There's the one human female character who's going to help the weird monsters pitted and navigate things They live in New York but they're outsiders. There are only four types of teenagers and as you know they are Mopey nerd hungry and boy scout. I guess Voltron uses the same formula because yeah that's how that networks but I don't know I I've always very much into this show and the definitely it was a tricky show to have as something that just aired every weekday. When you have these longer plot arcs right? I mean the premier for this you would have had to watch five days in a row at the same time every day and if you missed it you missed a pretty important chunk chunk of the story. Yeah Yeah that was definitely a tricky tricky proposition. I want to point out one tiny thing. which is that? This show has a lot of mythology but it doesn't explain much much and I kinda love that there's like what are gargoyles. Why do they become stone when the sun rises? How does this magic work? Are they vigorous other other very few females relative to nail. Where are the you know the eggs? There's a lot of questions that don't make any sense. But then they do things like this and I highlight is my wife because I thought that was super clever. She's like can't you fly back up. He's like no no. I can only glide. I'm like Oh my God. What a great choice and it affects the entire show instead of making it simple simple? They obviously already have a ridiculous wingspan to volume ratio in could not really glide probably very well however. They didn't go to the thing like well. They have enough power they can fly back up. I thought this this is a brilliant constraint. So super large amount of what they're backstory's not mentioned at all we can't even infer it and they have great little technical details like that that work their way into the show and I kind of appreciate the didn't have well. Let's go back to the origin of Gargoyles Caveman. Time thing so a lot of questions about author mass when they're turned into stone. It's magic. Don't worry just relax. This week's this'll curious about the eggs leads into something that you know talking about this. I five part art Miniseries opening which I think works really. Well which is as Glennon saying like the rules are Kinda given up front we get a lot. It's very economical in terms of like what what is happening. We don't always get the why but the fact that they do turn to stone during the day You know is one of the things that set up right at the front and it makes for interesting constraints needs for these creatures right because not only does it mean they are vulnerable during the day when no one is like they are not awake so they can be essentially smashed but it provides an interesting dynamic with some of the characters the human characters around them especially. I'm thinking of the fact that that later in this series in the in this Five episode Ark Goliath doesn't want to tell Lisa like why that they're vulnerable right. He is he is worried about betrayed again and so when she finds out and we see it through her eyes. It's genuinely startling. Even though we know it's it's going to happen because we sort of get the perspective from her of like what the hell does happen like that super weird so I I appreciate that like with declining thing a lot of this stuff and and the fact that the sleep heels them right like the we see to Tony's point about the violence one of the first shots Involves Goliath catching a sword and actually bleeding. Which is unusual in a cartoon eight but we also establish that then it is healed later? So it's nice and economical in the way that it sort of lays out this world and the constraints of this world also their clothing turn system for some reason which I'd love never it's never explained. It's awesome Magic Glenn imagining standards in practice. Something Else Ed missing the first couple of episodes in the in my original watch that I now discovered was the fact that they didn't come with names. Goliath was the only one named and so when I was getting ready to watch these I was like why in the world do they have New York names. I remembered distinctly. They had these names and I was like that's so odd and then to discover. Oh because they were named in the future like that makes so much much more sense but having them just be their characters without actually being named for what the first three episodes. It's a long time second. Yes it was. It was very bold choice. Because how can you say like yeah. You're being cast as a named Gargoyles the number two. Yeah I'll put that on my my like plan my schedule and yeah. I thought that is a very interesting decision to make. Also want to touch briefly on Shannon I think mentioned the the voice casting voice casting in this series is tremendous not not only because there are so many star Trek veterans. Not just from next generation. There's people from almost every show at one point or another astounding it's astounding. I was looking up at the wikipedia to remind myself and seeing some of the guest actors. That show Lloyd on people trying to remember. Now Michelle Nichols is is in there. Alan Cumming is in there like really great. Who did the voice cast as soon as we Andrea Romano but she was listed for for it? No no it's the voice directors. Jamie Thomson I'm not sure about casting. I don't remember that credit. Somebody must have new. Its fast passing and that was one of the reasons I like the show too. I think some extent is next generation was still on the air that it was just it was just on the and I was like. Oh this is great enemy. Jonathan frakes in MM particular remember. Jonathan's fix 'em reassert aside an incredibly good time and the fact that they got at Asir which my wife and I was like probably had a minute studio for like doc two hours on one day to record whole animated series to. He's clearly he clearly was available. I love the fact that he is. The only one to commit to. The Scottish accent is going to be doing yourselves finish candidate. He's old. He's he's settled in his ways. The other ones are all trying to fit in in New York Ark and are really good at that so yeah and I WANNA point out. Obviously this we'd be remiss if we didn't talk about Keith. David Goliath wiz fantastic. And and as as the anchor of this show right he really is. He's our main character. Yeah everything relies upon that performance being sort of spot on and I love how how much he commits to this. And the the what makes what so impresses me about. It is for example. If you watch these episodes in the I like the first scene I think when Lisa shows up to the tower. And everything's going to hell. The she talks to beat cop right and and that is also clearly. Keep David but it's a different mood like he's got such vocal range to go from the big Joe. Like Deep Stentorian Goliath down to these. Like I think he's one of the thugs to frankly. You can kind of hear it when you listen but yeah and then just the range of all all the other like you know professional voice actors. Who are in this too right? Like all the the most of the young Gargoyles you get like Jeff Bennett. In particular who I think does has not only Brooklyn but also in right yes. Yeah like yeah I mean think about all those characters. Those characters are totally different right lake and Person Voice them. Frank Welker does Bronx. Of course yeah so yeah yeah. Great Great Calf Clancy Brown is in the villain at at the At this moment I did not realize it. Salli Richardson like I'd never actually looked up. Who did the voice for at least a Mazda Lisa Maza and I thought she was a Elisa Zano Liza Maza Sorry Lisa she I thought I really liked that role I thought the role was generally fairly well written. And I like the voice characterization characterization and then I'm like Oh who was that anyway Mike. Oh my God she's been in a million things. It was also my favorite character on the very flawed show Eureka that I watched most of because I kind of like a lot. Some of the actors on it amazing but she was probably my favorite actor on that rule. And I'm like oh I didn't relate to the same person until I think for her particular That character and that character could be a very simple to mental character. And in the in this miniseries I think we only get a little bit of her but yeah she they do such a nice job later. On of really fleshing out her character or family or background. I like all of that in a way that also not done a lot and her action scene in central park is remarkable she. She's The star. She's The star of the show. Oh for that entire sequence and very much chip. We're your gun go. One pushy. Takes off her jacket and she's an empty holster. Goliath crashes ashes as their previous episode. Snake you remember the good but it was. Snow is beautiful. I'm like something happened to gun. This is not a mistake and I did not remember. That's what happened. That's MHM. I'm here to help and liked. I liked the fact that we have this cop that comes in and it was a female as well. I mean that was something as the young girl. There's a main character and it's a girl and she's a bad she's she's Yanic. Yeah in fact the American right and Raymond. Yeah and everybody I her to take her seriously. Yeah we we. We're there later episodes. We meet both her father and mother separately. Right right right and I think the The actress Salli. Richardson is also as like a mixed background to. Which is it's nice right like there's a mixed race character being played by mixed rates actor that was also at that point either shoes African American native American mother? The father of Italian English descent says Wikipedia. But no that was. I feel like that's unusual. I was surprised. Like Oh my God. She actually look something like is something like the character that was we are doing the voice aspect I'm guessing they probably modeled some of the character on the actress. Just given even how close those two things are not be surprised if that was the case there Sorry go ahead I was just gonNa say they modeled Keith. David serving they modeled Goliath off of Keith David to obviously under the wings and the horns in everything I do. Do you WanNa talk about some of the characters. But I'm not sure if we go through briefly go through the plot or should we just assess more broadly. How do you guys feel particular preference now? Now let's let's you abroad so so yeah so as we already sort of talked about. What's interesting about this show is that we start off very brief? We have this teaser. Caesar in the present day and then we jump back to Scotland and the premise is set up that we have this castle it is defended by the gargoyles their stone during the day. But they come alive at night so when these invading invaders like you show up and attack you know. Everybody thinks the leaders crazy. Because he's attacking you know when the when these supposedly mythological creatures are gonNA come to life. He doesn't believe it. Of course they turn out to be real and so we end up with this whole fight scene where the gargoyles really you know. Throw a boulder wait and drive people off but what they get interesting about this is we. We find that. Of course the Gargoyles are not accepted by the society the particularly really the the sort of high echelons side. We have a princess who really looks down on them. We have the Magus adviser who is also not a big fan and pretty much. What's their only ally and defenders the captain of the guard the unnamed? I always is interesting. Unnamed captain of the Guard and so we have have this sort of betrayal plot. Right where the GARGOYLES are. We have this gargoyles species where they are treated poorly and the We have somebody betraying the castle in the princess and essentially like convincing the The person who attacked to basically try their luck again at daylight. There's a whole thing with a ruse or Goliath is lured away and we find out more later about the whole sort of like sequence events therre which ends up being again fairly complex because of the the betrayer of course turns out to be the captain who is the only trust but the the fact that only a Goliath and Hudson. I mean he's the names just to be convenient was leave. The castle means that everybody else is left undefended and that we then have you know the the invaders come and essentially smash all of the gargoyles except for three young heroes. Who are hiding out in the rookie? With all the eggs and the and the dog and the dog. It's very confusing. Yeah why is the dog. A gargoyles dog be question. This magic UH rabid gargoyles. Good boy yes it just. It raises some concerning questions of parentage. And you know it's a whole Pluto goofy goofy issue to maybe. He's not a dog maybe he's just well he's he's very soft spoken. So Hi. This is Shannon made the comparison to Babylon five earlier. Another point of comparison. Here is that the Creator and Joe in showrunner of Gargoyles Greg Weisman was also fairly active online and he would painstakingly explained to you online that that that Bronx is a or goal beast not a Garg oil and there's a taxonomy here so the novelization so we have a another as the invader. Hey Con when captures the princess and we end up with this slightly awkward sort of misunderstanding. Where The Magus believes that the The princess has been killed by. Hey Con because the gargoyles showed up and so he essentially casts dispel on the younger gargoyles. Hudson that freezes them into stone even during the night Goliath goes after an saves the princess but loses his chance at revenge John. Hey Khan and is surprised to find. The captain is the person who betrayed the castle and so of course when he returns you know he he doesn't know what has happened to his friends. The MAGA's explains he's put a sort curse on them That they sleep for a thousand years or sleep until the castle was raised above the clouds and that he can't undo the spell because the pages been burned in his thome and so this is not a very good does a very good memory. Seem kind of like a poser. If I learned anything from as you say that spelled backwards and so what Goliath request that he also be put sleep their return to the castle and and that is when we jump forward and a thousand years to our quote Unquote Present Day or at least twenty five years ago and we are introduced to the very interesting character of David. Santos who I want to say is personally. I think one of my favorite characters on this entire first of all Jonathan frakes we all vandross is basically like he's like he's. He's Jerky Tony Stark. which is which is which the redundant yeah let me slightly more able to make Santos I think compelling is the fact that he is he existed he's a villain and yet he is not necessarily always villainous like he's got he's in that weird gray area and that's what I do about him as a character is that he he is at various times? Ally like a grudging ally verses actual antagonised in this case we learned that he is like heard the legend of the gargoyles. He has moved the entire castle. Lock Stock Barrel Rick Brick by brick and rebuilt it on top of his skyscraper in New New York. 'cause that's a totally the amount of effort they put into depicting how the thing was disassembled though. That was very impressive. Like there's numbers on things that are packing it up there flying away. I'm like this is a lot of effort to show. We packed up the castle and move Dave's interesting choice. Yeah it's an interesting choice into the the mega spell until the castle rises above the clouds. That's very very specific. Metaphor there It's very it must. It must rhyme in the metric language or something like every spell has to have like a clause they they've invented magic and the lawyers got got to it so it's like every every spell has to have an exit exit rate so that it Kinda leave you've ever signed the contract says in perpetuity till the end of the universe. You know that that just doesn't works. I signed contracts say that the publication owns the rights. This until my words rise above the clouds. Yeah worked very well. Chipping makes a lot of sense. If if you just consider a basic legal theory please when pigs fly right last question. Do they not consider fog clouds votes. Because I you know. Scotland fairly overcast and fog rolls in and one could argue but obviously they did not so. I wonder if it's a belief system as well. Maybe the fog came in during the day. Gargoyles was an amazing show on the Disney afternoon. That only ran and for one episode turned to the stone at the end and that was it so in our in our in present day. The gargoyles are awakened. I do love the the design of the castle on the skyscraper although it makes virtually we know senator still incredibly distinctive and it's got a lot of character we were trying to figure out where Zana's data's skyscraper fits in the New York skyline. Yeah because they do show. They show the Chrysler building a lot. They showed the empire state building. I think basically wants and so my my my my viewing partners working theory is that it's the the metlife building which in the movies is also what they made the the avengers tower prime real estate. You Really Jerky Tony Stark. Oh that's great love it. I'm here to help. I hope it's called. The eerie built the Eerie area building. Right it is called the area I think they do refer to it at some point he also I love the fact again. Nineteen Ninety S. Some strange thing I mean not quite accurate. There's like one board. Sleepy security guard guarding the elevator. Any place in the building. Yeah yeah well you know. He's very trusting. David it was it was the ninety S. There's one security guard and there's four mercenaries laser guns everywhere. You Go. Yeah Yeah it was. It was a great economy. What can we say okay interesting? We get a little bit backstory. When the guerrillas wake wake-up Santos introduces them tells them what's going on? We do. Learn the mega throwdown. The story in the xanthos has the grim Warr. We also get get they actually get asked about the the ask about the eggs in the rookery which he says are gone and the last gargoyles sort of. We'll just like asterisk. The heck out of that one but I love those down. That's what I'm saying. Look down his threes lying. Oh yes yeah I mean yeah that is also true And then we get this interesting episode where these commandos show up and basically jump in and appear to run around and steal something from Santos and and then flee again and the gargoyles sort of fight them off and Santos thanks them but we get this whole weird. That's the beginning of the first episode where we have this whole firefight and stuff like falling off the building chunks of stony etc and so we have at least. That's what draws our detective. Lisa Maza Aisa in as she comes to investigate what could leave clause in solid stone. The fight scenes are a little long for my liking. They have some nice moments in it. I I think my favorite one in here is when a evil commando throws a grenade at Lexington like tosses it aside because he doesn't know what a grenade is But Yeah at times. It's like I get it pumped punch exposing explosion. I'm trying to try to sort of give money. Honey shot to each character juggling all the different characters. I think that's part of what drove that. Yeah even ended up. We're GONNA walk. I'm never gonNA walk around the Eerie building though because man they're always like bricks and all kinds of stuff falling down like it must be like a death zone paid off a wad code inspectors on. Yeah it's it's a pretty elaborate scam That is very shaggy scam. Zana's running running in this in this story And I think that towards the end this is it's sort of where everything sort of falls apart but it's it's kids action adventure. TV and they're still finding their way and the the assault on the castle. The humor bits as the gargoyles complete fish out of water. You know It's it's a lot of fun for me. Yeah I'm willing to buy. I mean I think it establishes that he's kind of ridiculously Machiavellian And that probably this as we as we discover later this whole fight was staged by him. but I am willing to buy it that it's equal part. He's he has overly complicated evil plans. And he wants to test the gargoyles slash his own amusement to be part of the the basically the fight because he he wants to he wants to shoot a laser gun at some people it fits very well with Santos liabilities according to how Owen is informed him that shooting his own employees as Safer shooting strangers so again New York City in the early nineties so maybe dig the giant discs I really liked the giant disks or optical. Do so he stopped news opt optical discs a few years before that were like looked like giant floppies. And I think that's what they're trying to really work find that those were. We're actually magic talisman. Yeah I love. How condescending is being really like helpful? Well the debriefing. Where he's like? I need you guys to go on my commando rays and they're like. Wow you have a screen. That shows big dude. Maybe maybe these are not the guys you need to like. Go the laboratory. How are they going to find a disk? I do love Jonathan frakes delivery on your naievety is refreshing. So slimy slimy and get like it's the worst parts of Reicher right. It's the worst parts of will reicher cross Tony Stark. It is true when you have magic though and you can in you know in your in a world of magic it's all. The machinations of things are machines and screens are not quite as amazing to you probably have seen things in mirrors and and screaming ponds and things already moving tapestry so we have lisa investigate this whole bizarre firefight and Owen with Zan. Cessna's assistant tries to get rid of her but she's still snooping around. Yeah Owen is a win is a person who has not given a lot of screen time in this episode but is certainly one of my favorite characters for reasons that become later on. He's delightful and he's also just yes the delivery and his persona is fantastic. Yeah the younger. The youngest snarky Alford. You could ever imagine yes an just such a straight man such straight and very very good. Use your revelations just hilarious delirious so we have our first encounter between a Lisa and Goliath where Goliath as Tony mentioned. Crushes lease gun. She stumbled off the building and he saves her and then they climb back up and they seem to start to establish a reporter. She explains he's a detective. And there's you know basically a things that she's investigating. She investigates when when things are don't fit together and we get a nice line about her sing a good detective. Trust no one. And that's one thing we have in common goliaths. Fear of being betrayed again runs very strongly through this entire episode and that is again another a nice note of complexity I think for these characters even though we have Santos he doesn't entirely trust Santos He doesn't entirely trust Lisa at the beginning. Either and we see just how badly affected by the events of the of Scotland. So rich is the time line was yesterday right. So right and yet he he. He throws that questioning completely away. When Dimona comes back in two of life layer? which almost makes is that betrayal and that interaction even more intense? Because you've seen him okay. Yeah he's got his other buddy a Buddy gargoyles and here's someone that saved his life and Yada Yada but still questioning and then oh his angel of the night comes back and all is forgiven and and that just stab in the heartened. It's it's so painful. The PATHOS Pathos yes. Speaking of PATHOS. this this Tehran of shows has some great subtle dialogue here and there like when a Lisa asks Goliath. There's more than one of you and he says barely uh-huh yeah in that Nice growl to So we have Santos giving the briefing about these stolen discs by cyber -biotics. And how he's going to send him out to recover them. We also get the idea. Now that he is something else is going on where he tells the shadowy figure that everything is going according to plan subtle animation is. It's hard to do because you have that moment of like especially when you're watching his back to back you're like well clearly d'amato right like shape of her and everything in the shadows but yeah not not so much that we get the discussion say airships giant sky ships. You know you'd think after what the avengers The doctor who ended time name anytime the the the the sound of drums What's The sky captain and the world of tomorrow? You know these giant airships these giant propeller-powered propeller-powered airships. They always go down. They always craft live out their ship. Back you right. You're right we get a discussion with Goliath Lisa about names. This is where Hudson gets his name and a Lisa and Glasgow sightseeing threat. City league well Hudson discovers television. We get our aforementioned mugging scene with the Yuppies who I believe. Show up in the background in a few more episodes as well Komo one of them. That was something else that they tended to bring these minor characters. Yes yes we. There's only like seven people in New York City Eh Marco who is clearly voiced by Marina. Serious as well which I enjoy goliath beats up thugs and Elisa's very happy. The best thing that could happen to the city that's right because the city cannot be policed by police. Officers can only by Mrs Mugabe everything. Vigilante Justice I don't think it would. I'll be turtles or Batman. This is what the city needs and then it was rough in the nineteen nineties man and then our thugs show up our commandos. Show up and Trink to chew Goliath full of some sort of sedative or something. The goliath and Lisa flee the boys who are out trying to sightsee and have found a motorcycle things and then blown it up lots of stuff also blows up surly. That character will never return. This universe has a lot of extra oxygen in the air. I think on Central Park blow up that thing blowing up blowing up in the tower that we're just we just gas cans everywhere in the nineties. And along the way we get the very distinct personalities for the for for the boys we find out pretty clearly that Lexington is going to become donatello going to become the tech. The Tech Person Broadway is at least Orlando because the jolly hedonistic eating stuff type and Brooklyn is figure out little later on that. He's kind of Goliath in training. But he's not there yet. Yeah he's a he's a little bit more than the Goliath is little Mo cool oh but crude reference. We get a funny funny scene where they try to when they realized they can't get back to the tower easily. Try to the cab which man as Lisa and glide fleeing they discover that glide has a radio tracker with him on him with a logo on it at least puts it on a dog the logo. I love the logo. What happened to that dog? We never see that dog again. That's what happened to. The dog is still following. We have fun so as we mentioned up top the at least discovers that despite the fact that Goliath has tried to hide this whole stone stone sleep thing for him that like she discovers it when they can't make it back before dawn and he explains briefly before he turns stone that he's totally vulnerable during day so she tries to lead the commandos away and we get a really great action sequence as she takes them out she goes to the boathouse. The Boat House blows up. She guy in with a jacket like this rowboats also by the way but hey that's okay gasoline. I don't remember the waterfall and the sheer cliff in central park. Ah I must exist. I'm going to leave it does it does not exist. I'm sure there's some of it is also a park that is because it's nineteen ninety-four MT at broad daylight as dangerous. No one dared say in that part. I wondered about that in the scene where she runs through the cafe. But it's also yeah dawn because he's just turned to stone so it's probably a little it's Kinda like Morningside Park. Yeah they called any of the mercenary. Our Dan the first jogger when she finally circles back to Goliath anyone who lived in New York City in the late eighties. If I say it's more like Morningside Park is laughing at home now or in the car. Yeah the Nice bit with Jogger. WHO's like I have run through this for five years thirsting that statue which is funny and then they he just keeps going though visit because there's a New Yorker? I just missed it. Neural Lisa stays with Goliath all day. which finally basically earns her some trust strikes? She's he's protected him and that that is a bond right. That's sort of establishes a bond that we don't have with Santos even though Santos is the one who is brought them all back upon upon returning we get the clan. Gets all of their names my notes. Here's what we know. They can't read so I guess they're just all things they overheard and clearly the over a lot of things they they had a very busy day right. So we've got Lexington Broadway Brooklyn and Bronx. I mean. Look they're speaking modern English so we have some accommodation the nation to make it's fair true. Magic Garbo's have very flexible brains as because of their origins that are magic you ever sold translated. Santos wants to Goliath. And we get the reveal of Dimona and we get our reunion a union between the two lovebirds. Dimona tells a story about basically going after Goliath and then having when she realized they've turned stone having the biggest cast the spell again Santos Tos says that he acquired her first. This is also some questionable but interesting like this is another thing I like about the show is layered narratives right like we're already suspicious because of the way this is presented were suspicious of these characters and a lot of this stuff will end up being things that turn out to be inaccurate not inaccurate but like there dissembling right which is another fascinating thing that we don't get a lot. I feel like in this area of this year. Well in in my my memory I always knew Santos was the bad guy like I mean. He's got a ponytail. He's gotta go he wears. I mean do you need to see his his tax returns to those people and so in the first episodes with he's you know nice and he'd saved them and all of the stuff I was was just like did I completely forget being stern. I was very very confused. And so when it all turns okay in my memory. Isn't that bad. We get them all sent on their missions to all these various sites which includes some some fun confrontations we get some character development moments as we realized that Dimona is pretty callous about human lives and Goliath is still not quite ready despite having been betrayed by humans to sort of categorically dismissed all humans every guard every facility is incapable of shooting. Anybody that no one ever gets it right any of the actually the bulletin or whatever. I don't think so any point I don't think so stormtrooper some you know as a cartoon but it's also still like there's a lot of shoot out. There are a lot of guns in these sequences but yeah not a lot of people actually getting violently hurt. Yes we get the the the kids go to this tower and get you know. Ama- sensually ambushed by a bunch of guards but they managed to get their way out. We get Hudson. Who's the Saviola time? Rookie tricks his way in By essentially like giving himself up and then having brock's come in and save him Dimona destroys the airship despite Goliath wanting to save people. She's dragged him out at least a cease go out and do WANNA leaving the crash airship and she sort of her suspicions are raised. Dimona tries to convince Goliath that humanity is basically their enemy and Santos is the only one they can trust. He is not quite buying it. And this is when the cracks in this relationship. Start to show She goliath go. See a Lisa. Who reveals that? The logo that was on the radio tracker is a company that belong. Santos maybe just don't make your logo so prominent prominent. Whatever dan branding matters? And why. Why won't you engage with brands? On trackers. Nice I'm really trying. I'm trying hard or not to this. Tracker was not. GDP are compliant so we also get the revelation of course that Santos has tricked them into stealing all these discs from cyber -biotics and that he staged the quote unquote theft in the first place. xanthos realizing the GARGOYLES can no longer be relied upon decides. He's GonNa anti-trust replacements that he is now enabled with this technology historian and we have the introduction of the steel clan which are all gargoyles robots designed to look like Goliath for for some reason. I guess because he's The coolest looking one. Yeah very again very Tony. Stark having all our robots around with laser cannons and shoot it all the the gargoyles but the gargoyles managed to fight them off and in Dimona sort of turns on them. She's got a rocket launcher decides to use that. And we get the revelation that she we worked with the captain basically to try and betray all the humans in the castle and she reveals that she has a name that the humans gave her long ago. Oh and it's Dimona. Lisa tackles her. The tower comes down xanthos is knocked out Goliath Saves Lisa. But let's Dimona fall. Oh and there's an echo shot of the same reaction. He has when he I thought he was dead. Way Back in in Scotland which is kind of a nice callback. I do like some mentioned earlier. Though the fact that he just chips and opening line the fact that he boldly says like it's really. You're the one who's responsible Komo for all this. You made it all happened so you know if you're mad at him he doesn't say this that detail but it was a really great thing to have somebody who's show like this to say this is all your fault really is I mean and she will have none of it you know. She's not going to accept it. Everybody else has gotta Pay Yup Yup and then we have seen where goliath hangs over the edge and he's GonNa drop him and of course we have our our classic but if you do you'll be the same as Guna right and glide showing his hero ISM allows Santos to instead be arrested on theft. I guess I don't know the charges are nice. Mr Santos I'll double so his cert- lining I guess so it doesn't dare and we have the Gargoyles sourcing the castle we've established at. Lisa's going to watch watch out for them and and she told me this will take them to a football game. Apparently and that is where we end our introductory arc setting up a lot of these pieces and it could have very easily gone from this to becoming a show that was just like a very episodic bad guy of the week with all the I mean and these ingredients right like there's a lot of shows I feel like once you've done the pilot episode. Everything else is kind of interchangeable. And I think that's that's again the part of this show that I I responded to so much was we jump off from this into a very complex exploration of all of these characters and plots they do you a lot of world building in this show compared to other stuff at the time it it almost felt like it was you know are we building a TV show or could this have been like an RPG campaigners right there's going to be all these overlapping factions and people with complicated intersecting backstories and people who have been married and who have have parents who are at war with other people and it's Yeah for kids. Yeah I don't I don't remember how it got scheduled but there were only thirteen episodes in the first season and I am pretty sure that it ran. awakenings ran as a daily five. Yes Day rip edit of it but it removes some things and rearrange some stuff so yeah it's not quite complete so so but I I think that first season was aside from running For a week I think it was weekly. I think it was syndicated. Weekly or something like that but so just thirteen episodes to And it's a reasonably complete story there but they still set up the seeds for if they got renewed and so the second season Brings it to to a total of sixty five episodes. So you've got your full on Disney Rotation thing going and there is just so much not only. Is there the The the serial plot going on throughout throughout but they take aac all of these amazing side trips to cover just about every possible human mythology. You can possibly get in this series from various from various ghosts and Goblin types of things too The aluminum body of of all things to the MIC. My personal vote for the worst Gargoyles story the one about the The Easter Island aliens. Don't remember yeah that's not not on the voting on that one for the rest. We're leaving aside We're leaving aside the also all seasons. We're basically doesn't exist. Fans considered noncanonical the air during Saturday. Mornings different coke chronicles. It's pretty bad. That's contacted folks. Easter island is not season three. Though I'm sorry to sell you know I think it's you know season two as part of the journey. Yeah Yeah so well. I'm glad that we got a chance to talk about these. First five episodes Zambales WanNA interject with anything before we we go our ways almost sunrise us. Just how just how. Well they sort of like thought things through Glen already talked about the gliding thing chip and I noticed this time around while they're in Scotland and there's lots of room to move a lot of them are running on all fours like their physiology is is there leaping sleeping along like wolves or lions and then once they're in New York. You almost never see that again. Because there's no room to run so they're out there walking on On feet two feet instead But they're very consistent with their movements and what's possible and what isn't possible with them and it's just a lot of thought and care went into the world building I think and I think it shows the designed to I the thing that I rem. I remarked upon when looking at the first episode. And it's even Sean Sean. There is the use of the wings as cloaks is. I think one of the best such a great design move because it not only is l. against in terms of its usage and everything but it makes it makes the character somewhat more relatable because it makes their silhouettes more human and so I think that's a really fascinating choice of design and it's just. It's a really nice little detail notice in watching this time. That Dimona has like little hand. Cli- thing that she she uses and some of the others glide has more of a like a talent sort of thing but it's even down to that level of design. They're all everyone is their own custom kind of way of bringing young individuals they've types but they're individuals and some of it is. I mean I had forgotten how Toyota some of the design is where it's like we need to be able to sell six different different action figures but it also means like they're all very and they each different color scheme and a very different shape right so they're very distinctive in a in a complicated scene with fighting our people in Silhouette and whatnot remember. How low resolution? TV was then. He's very part has been remastered for high definition. No still want to get into whether Lenovo because I'm very confused so Glenn I feel like that's my cue to wrap this. Yes please well all right. We have covered the first five episodes. I think we're actually going to try in future episodes to cover the rest of season one at least because it's fairly short whether we do you one or two episodes of the time. I haven't quite figured out yet. But I'm I'm looking forward to getting smart panel and maybe some other contributors as well talk about the rest of cease one and we'll see how that goes and maybe we'll move onto season two after that but until then I would like to thank my panel from today Campbell. Thank you so much for being here. Thank you Dan for letting me experience my childhood again. You're quite welcome Glenn Fleishman pleasure having you on. It was great and I'm glad to revisit the the show I really loved and did not have a motivation to watch until talking about it. So thank you. You're welcome Shannon's our thank you for being here. Always a pleasure to talk about stuff. I love yes. Isn't it chips on earth. Thank you so much. Offer me a podcast about gargoyles. And I'll follow you into hell. Good News Tony's into lower. Thanks for joining us on. This amazing adventure could buy nerds and thank you all out there for listening listening we will be back next time on Gargoyles library it.

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Episode 101: Face Me Human, If You Dare

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Episode 101: Face Me Human, If You Dare

"We are defendants. The most trusted source for talked about him coverage if favorite mid-nineties animated program Gargoyles. I'm your host Daniel Williams and I'm your host. Liz Urkel Liz. We are starting a brand new podcast. Today it's a new adventure. It's a new chapter in the claim to cast history. An we are drinking to celebrate. We are new beginning. We're having some tasty tasty ciders recording during the day. So we're not gonNA get too crazy just some light day drinking to talk about a children's program what you do. Yeah so we're talking gargoyles from now until seventy eight weeks from now. It looks like at least chaser. Glad I had this idea. Yeah this was a good idea. Thank you Disney. Plus yes Liz. What is your history with the Disney Animated Program Gargoyles? Well I definitely watched it when I was younger. I assume as it aired. I really don't quite remember when you were an infant right. Like nine hundred ninety four came out. I would've been five four older brothers so my guess is they. Were watching it so I was watching it with them and I remember getting really like hooked into it. I just don't know if I started watching it like right when it first aired or caught up to a little bit later down the line but I do very much remember. Thinking that Goliath was Hunky Honky Gargoyles Hong Kong. Yeah here's my here's a winged man. Well I am almost positive. I was watching the show from the very beginning. I would have been nine years old. It looks like in October of nineteen ninety four. I have very strong. Memories of a Gargoyles t shirt that I wore a lot like until it got holes like Iraq. This t-shirt I remember loving it so very much so big fancier big fans so for the uninitiated gargoyles follows the adventures of a clan of nocturnal creatures known as Gargoyles Gulu led by the heroic dream. Vote Goliath during the day they turn to stone and at night they come alive to defend their castle and home from the. Ne'er do wells. Just whoever I guess. Yeah I mean back then would mostly been vikings and probably other Scottish clans. That want to take over Vikings. Just back off and for those of you who don't know. The show starts knits nine. Ninety four. I believe ADEEM. So we're we're in the middle of Medieval Times so a little bit of background about the show from our good friends at Wikipedia. Thank you wikipedia Dot Org for sponsoring the show. Today I believe that's our first sponsor right. Hey probably anyway. The series premiered October Twenty Fourth Nineteen Ninety four and ran for seventy eight episodes over three seasons. So like I said we're GONNA be here while some of the recognizable cast members and this is not everybody but these are the names that when I was looking at the cast like. I know those names so we have Keith. David Ed Asner. Everyone's lovable asner Marina surtees Jonathan frakes. John Reese Davies Rice. Davis. It's reese it's going to be restrained tests Imerese John Rhys Davies in Kate mulgrew. And you don't know this yet but there are many star Trek Actors. The pop up. Yes you've told me I'm very excited. It was produced by Walt Disney television and distributed by Buena Vista Television. I don't know what the difference is because Walt Disney owns point of ESTA. Today we're covering gargoyles season one episode one awakening part one of five by the way. There's five parts to awakening a name. That ship very clever naming. It was written by Eric Luke in Michael Reaves and directed by Forgive me Saburo Hashimoto and Katsuo Terada. I'm guessing I always put your names On podcast Daniel Daniel Daniel close enough. It's really not that long. There's only six but that's okay Liz. Shall we dive in yes? Shaded the show opens in New York City giant explosions going off atop a Manhattan skyscraper. It is fucking chaos chaos. There are just large parts of an entire building falling from the sky. Just chilling on the street like. Oh what's that? Yeah the cars are crashing. You know skating shits nuts but the people standing on the street as you say are just looking up like they expect to see something aside from their immediate death right suddenly a sweet old timey Cadillac with police. Light on top rolls up and we are introduced to what's going on here. Detective must be a heck of a pontiac. Many young people sexual awakening. I mean Daniel is nine so it probably couldn't I mean it seems a little early but You know you you recognize beauty when you see. She is very pretty and she is. She has like almost blue black hair. Very natural everybody has statefarm and cartoons anyway. Did you recognize the police officers voice? I'm bad at this type of stuff like you. You you say all these names as if I'm supposed to know who they are and then I'm like hull. That was Keith. David Aka Goliath Aka cop telling people to get back because for some reason they are all way too close to this disaster area. Really now I want to Rewatch it for a fourth time. And as we mentioned why is anybody standing near this chaos but also why are they interested in being so close? It's terrifying terrifying. But I guess it's the same thing like if a car crash happens and everyone's just kind of like staring and waiting to see what happened human nature to just watch shit. Go Down Counter. That with this is like if a car crash happened. And then while people were standing around cars kept driving into the crash and then people walked into the crash and more cars crashing. Yeah I'm just saying guys don't do it guys do it so then that detective. Maza fines that there's claw marks in solid stone intrigue. What is it that mean? We'll never know 'cause we never come back to Manhattan in this episode. We cut to the title card. But we don't get the sweet intro music yet. No it does not come up in this episode at all. I don't think right how it gets introduced a little bit later. They're not protecting New York. And they're not defenders of the night yet. I mean I guess our Scotland. I don't know what I'm talking about. We'RE GONNA go to Scotland Nine ninety four. We're in the middle or I guess we're at the beginning of some kind of castle siege and we get some killer music now Liz yes. You ARE A well-known Scottish. History buff and. I'm sure that you can tell me and tell our listeners. Exactly what's happening in this siege seen? Who are these attackers? Who are they attacking? It's got to be historically accurate. Go ahead I'm here. I WANNA learn. Learn me well. No a little bit of research. I actually did do those an interested to see if maybe it was possibly a real thing I as far as I could tell nothing. Major happened in Nineteen ninety-four. We do find out though that it's Vikings I. I think people just assume anyone who's attacking in that time period was probably a viking. But there's actually a lot of people that lived in Scotland It was a combination of Scandinavian slash. The Vikings Celtic Slash Gaelic French in English and I added a bunch of different people at that time lived in that area and it was definitely in the Vikings attack. You know whenever my car is broken into. I assume it's like Mike into gains right there. Listen if we haven't even Viking listeners. I'm just GONNA go ahead and put it out there right now. You're not welcome. You're not looking to listen to us. Now what we don't want you listening. We don't break into cars. Vikings back off Minnesota Vikings fans. Fuck you welcome. We kind of her to a couple of the soldiers and they've got opinions on this whole situation. I'm going to quickly play that clip for you. Talking Castle for the governor's knife on this is crazy and hickel news it my friend. That's not crazy questioning my sanity. When I'm in earshot that's crazy. I say those gargoyles stove. Even if they aren't it's worth the risk for the plunder within it's bad news. They're not wrong. Not a good idea. You know what he knows. It hit on is the leader of this Viking Siege Force and Liz. Do you know what else what hit on his voice by clancy. Goddamn Brown. The man I wish was my grandpa. Do you know clancy Brown all. Yes you do okay. Because as I'm sure you're aware his best known for roles both in animation and live action. He has a long voice acting career. LemMe List you some of his most. Well UNROLLS LEX Luther and superman the animated series and Justice League? Read death in the venture. Brothers you know the venture brothers. I've heard about well. I gotTA learn something. Fine live action. He was colonel. Ray schoonover in both daredevil and the punisher daredevil season to punish your season one. You knew that I've never actually seen those. Did you see carneval? Hbo Show he played brother. Justin Crowe and the two seasons of carnival. Okay I know you know this one least important but still he voices Mr Crabs and spongebob. Spongebob nobody does know. I know people who are obsessed twenty. I know it's a it's well regarded. He sings the opening theme. Two is the pirate. Oh He's things that that's C. You know clancy Brown. That's Bhagat me. That guy of course pirate okay moving on okay so hey con gets down to serious attacking business because God dammit. There's booty if you will and it's worth. The risk of climbing and being disembowelled by Gargoyles was quick question. Yes he is leading the charge against the castle and he decides to go all the way up to the very top of the building via a grappling hook all the way to the highest goddamn point where. Goliath is perched. You can't get any higher than Goliath. Why what is he doing? Is that where? Scottish kings keep all the best blender I probably. I mean you'd think so right. I don't know I guess it looked cool right like he looks like a really fucking bad ass. Yeah he was like I'm going to no I'M GONNA keep go. No you guys fight those guys. I'm GONNA keep climbing. I WanNa see what's up here. It looks coward. Limited be honest looks cowardly. Looks like he's trying to escape. I know you guys got it. I'M GONNA be up here. It's a very dangerous. He knew that glide is up there so maybe he doesn't believe that the gargoyles are real. See the ad that really makes no sense. Now dumbed down in my notes I call it. Mount Dip Shit Haycock gets to the top of dip shit right as the sun goes down and I think that he made a big mistake because we are introduced to the one the only the God damn man of the Hour Goliath. He's voiced by legendary Keith. David you of course know him from a variety of roles like to share some that I found interesting with our listeners. Flame King from adventure time adventure time and you know flame king. Of course he was. Flame princesses dead. Yeah that's how royal lineage works. Yeah sometimes and as we all know Finn and flame princess. They had quite a steamy romance. You didn't know that. So lavar gorilla king from the Flash L. Wurley from community that Stanley Sunday from seventh heaven. You know that one. I didn't know that one. 'cause I forgot. That was a program that existed. I was obsessed with that show. Stanley son eight David Spawn. He voiced spawned in the animated. Hbo Series and perhaps his most well known role. You know it. I know at all of our listeners. Mary's dad from there's something about Mary like how he doesn't actually have named Mary. Ideal of his voice low like I just want him to narrate everything. Want him to sentence me to life in prison. I'd be okay with that. I want him to read me. My last rites slowly seductively. Yes takes a swing at Goliath with his sword and it kicks off a pretty awesome battle between the siege army and the guardrails. Did you remember being so many really didn't because I just remembered the main cast ray? I totally forgot that when we're back here and we're doing this flashback. There's like forty gargoyles. Some have armor have weapons. But it's like the birds level of like flight happening. It seems dangerous and I don't know how they avoid crashing into each other in the practice. You know what fine fine. Everyone's getting their asses kicked and the camera pans up to tear it where we meet three of arming characters. We'll get their names later now. They don't have names as we learn later in the episode and because of that I'm not going to refer to any of them other than Goliath by their actual names. As matter of fact in my notes I don't even refer to him as much of the time anyway. There's some poking fun at fat Google and these three joined the battle. Yes there's more fighting kicking passes and we are introduced to old a bearded gargoyles. Who is getting slow for age? He he almost gets whacked in the back of the NOGGIN. No unite talked about this earlier off chatting about this show. Why does he have a Scottish accent? But no one else does. This is Ed Asner. So it's not Scottish but it's Scott is he's doing his best as tier actual question. I don't know because the other main character gargoyles have very American accidents. They're not even trying which I don't know how I feel about this. Because we see a royal person later has her best attempted a Scottish accent? I don't know we have a linguist friend and he tried to explain it to us You know as you mentioned. There was a lot of different kinds of people living in the area at the time but nineteen ninety-four remind me how old was America at this point. Zero zero okay so there would have been nothing even a little close to the accents Tonkin. You know in my research old gargoyles think he actually was the original leader before Goliath was leader. So maybe he has a Scottish accent because he's the old ways one. I don't know I have another observation regarding these gargoyles. These creatures defenders of the night who is are they mammals because big. And what I'M GONNA call Jerry Jerry Field Gargoyles. They have hair. They have beards But they all have leathery wings. We'll meet the lady gargoyles. She has a full head of hair boobs. And well you know what yes. I don't know why we have to go there immediately. I mean but they've got leathery wings which I guess could be bad but they look like lizard especially the little green guy yeah especially looks lizard like and their legs looked kind of bird like I guess I'm really hung up on the anatomy of Gargoyles in general. But it's bizarre and they wear clothes so there you don't. They don't want their ding-dong hanging out. Wow How old are there wieners? Sorry grow up their leathery Reptilian weenies so okay and then we see that. There's eggs like this other hatchlings. They make reference to. I haven't been here since I was hatched. Oh yeah later in the episode. Yeah that's an platypus. Come from Planet Pie. Those animals come from eggs and they're mammals. Yeah what's going on? I don't know backtrack but doing more research first off. These aren't gargoyles quit. Know bring up your research nerd. They're technically not gargoyles. Grotesques which is grotesque is like the general term gargoyles are a type of grotesque but gargoyles have the spout mouth thing. They were used on the sides of buildings. Pretty much a water downtown downspouts. Yeah they were downspouts to protect all the stonework on the architecture of the building because otherwise the water which is a road it so the Gargoyles were there for that purpose to protect the building from like the Gargoyles from the hunchback of Notre Dame. Those are Gargoyles gargoyles are they. I think they are. It's been a long time since I wasn't. I don't think I've ever actually seen it. But speaking as an expert. Yes they're definitely went. Deep hole of architecture stuff prepping would like this is fascinating. I'm really invested in the evolutionary. Biology gargoyles maybe. We'll need to get some sort of specialists in here as a guest. Excuse me I question. How do they fuck? Liz urkel defenders than I just quick question. I'm most interested in how they fuck do they. Can you show me? I'll take my answer off the air. Thank you but really though I mean they reproduce there have to be some fucking right Liz. They come from eggs. Are they all coming from that one lady? Gargoyles was she the only female they showed. She's when they showed. Yeah she is exhausted. Yeah She's the Queen Bee there we haven't even let's keep going okay. So in the middle of this battle Goliath has chatting with I assume was the king of the castle. I we I was wrong. The Guy Leading the defense and this is when we learned. I assume it's important that recently. The castle folk the Lords and ladies. They took an abandoned refugees and he believes that the vikings followed them. I don't see any of this as being relevant. Seems like Filler? Because they couldn't just have ten minute battle sequence in a cartoon I dunno it really is just an excuse later on for people to be mean to gargoyles rarely. Yeah so we cut over to that group and we see the comedic relief. Fat Gago lead in is an issue. Fat gargoyles floats down to steal food in the middle of the battle man. You've taken an oath to protect this castle. You've got shit to do man like I mean if you have the opportunity to eat wild fighting when you take it. I don't know I'm not fighting the I. Multitasking like eating your Turkey leg and using it as a weapon as he does he does use it as a man. That's an with enough force to knock a man. Unconscious knows a strong yeah. I don't know if that's possible. I mean how big of a Turkey was that. Turkey legs are. Have you ever got one other festival? I mean I've made Turkeys before so I'm familiar. I'm with the anatomy of Turkey's I don't Turkeys Man. Who why are you saying? I seem bigger at festivals than what you have at home. You're comparing my size to someone else. And you know what that's fine because it doesn't matter it's the delicious of the meat inside moving on so we cut to hey con looking shook. He was not expecting Mammalian Lizard Demons he was expecting to come in chop up some lords rape some ladies steal some booty like he has warned. Right right yeah I mean I felt about it too so all this is happening. He's checking his surroundings and I'm watching the subtitles on and he's he's out of breath and on the screen and says pants and that was something I found so funny I majored. Put it in my notes so that I could say it on Mike. But then there's a guard dog dog oil doug so I feel like well. Disney's just weird. It's Goofy is a dog but also has a dog so is it that like. Oh well you know he's also gargoyles but he's Gargle Pat. Yes Doug Oil shows up and you're right he's like Pluto. The Pluto of the Gargoyles Goliaths goofy. I have so many questions and this goes back to the evolutionary biology that I find so interesting. Is this a pre oil gargoyles this Doug Hoyle evolve into a Goliath Lake creature? I don't think so. And he the only dog that we are shown and then as we learn later on. That's the only one we ever see. You have to assume there's some cat GOYAL's Some some canary oils as otherwise. This is someone's child. This is a toddler. They're born as doug creatures and grow into humanoid bird. This wish that that had this kind of sense as a child to be like what the fuck is going on here but no I took it for what it was really cool. That's the thing. No this makes total sense. Okay okay so then there's a lady gargoyles. Oh yeah moving so fast through the characters at how did lady Gargoyles make you feel? Did you like her as much as detective lady or like Lady mcharg. Oil Did to some people growing up the same as what Goliath did to others. They are a hot cup. Larisa sexy power couple exactly right and you know with detective Maza. It's one thing she's a human we get it. We can all relate but I feel like lady Macbeth. Oil spawned tons of fairies in the mid nineties. Probably Yeah I got a thing for bad wings and I did not know that until right now. Well it's like Jessica Rabbit Jessica. Rabbit was a human what she sixty Rabbit Jessica Rabbit from. Who Framed Roger Rabbit? No she is a woman human woman but there's also version of her. She has like Benny ears and they like slow down. Yeah that's fantastic. That's fantastic. I thought I don't know what you're talking about. Here's the thing about lady mic gargling. Yes they all wear the loincloths. Yes but she's got like a bikini top because gargoyles as a species as we all know have a very strict sense of modesty like all good Christians and she wants to maintain her purity. Sure wouldn't you too? If you're the only female that all these horny gargoyles were running a fuck. I don't know I mean she's got to be the mother of all these gargoyles air is the only who else is lying all those eggs. I don't know what is happening. Are Gargoyles a human gargoyles hybrid? Are there human women that are laying eggs? What is Lewis? We are turning in this very bizarre territory very early on in our series seven minutes to show. Yeah Yeah we're seven minutes into the actual episode. Speaking of Lady Mc Gargoyles is when I would like to introduce people to the defenders of the night. Podcast within a podcast where we discuss your favourite show that you've never seen star trek the next generation yet because lady. Magog oil is voiced by everyone's favourite. Counselor aboard the Starship Enterprise. Deanna Troi Aka Marina surtees. She's got a great first line. Muscle stiffness face me human. If you dare I would not dare. It'd be like okay by you. Know rough on a jump off this forty foot wall and fall into hey. She has a very commanding presence. That I think is more terrifying than like Goliath or the other gargoyles. 'cause she's got a rage inside her. Well she has definite rage whereas glides seems very much like these are humans. We must protect them. It's our duty and she's like Fook. These human yeah. I WANNA kill them. All this episode doesn't get into it but I hope the later on. We really dive. Deep into Y Goliath has such a sense of honor and loyalty towards the humans that our Dicks to him and why she is so she's she's now wrong not wrong as we see later on the episode because again we're seven minutes in everyone fucking hates Gargo. It's really bizarre. Before we move on. Liz I have to ask you. What do you think about? The glowing is Zada. Thing they just do at will. Is that only when they're angry? How do you feel about this? It's a is it a defense mechanism. I think it's definitely when they're angry. That's the only time we really see that. She's like getting real intense. Her eyes flash could hurts. Glow Red I think a couple of other ones. That glow like white. Yeah she's in this episode. Glow red okay. So glides shows up before lady MIC Cargo Hill and the dog. Oil Can really cause some damage to. Hey Con- you don't want to read it. No parent go higher then throws hey con off of you good thirty foot wall or whatever and he landed a giant pile of hay that like. It's a never ending cascade of. Hey It's like a sea of hey like what the fuck is going on with his little basket all day. That's you know. He would not have actually saved. He jumped into a shopping cart size barrel of Hay and it just like a Su- Nami good for him because his ass would have been broken out through his skull. He'd actually landed on real. Hey he would've died disgustingly it blows my mind how cartoons and things like this always make it sound like. Hey which is break your fallen. So soft and cuddly like it's not a pile of cotton. It's hey hey hurt. The fuck cartoons. Feel like you're giving us unrealistic views of what? Hey can you for US anyway? Moving on the red gargoyles flies to soldiers outside the castle grounds which that's intense muscle strength. Yeah that's like wine and holding to humans so we're talking maybe say almost four hundred pounds in addition to and they don't fly. That's the thing they don't really mention. They don't mention in this episode but they glide they cannot flap. Yeah they're like a slightly parachuting down to the flying squirrels bats. Physics means nothing to these weird Lizard Batman Liz. I think that I need to crack. Open another Sider and we're going to take a break we're gonNA come back and we are never going back to New York City F. Why no right? We'll be right back in the year. Twenty one hundred years cybernetic hands. Population threatened to tear down everything. America held dear. Free speech drive-thru liquor stores and guns so many guns. After much deliberation it was decided that if America and superior values what to survive the coming roebuck lives. There was only one option. Get the fuck up the next hundred years so the construction of Space Merica the galaxies newest and brighter star. If you value adventure good times CYBORG FISTFIGHTS. Find your place in space. Merica SPACE MERICA. No cyborgs nearby subscribed to space. America on Apple podcast. Google PODCAST STITCHER OR CHECKOUT CALAMITY CAST DOT COM. So the battles over and everyone's hungry because you know nothing makes you hungry like a good old fight and piles of dead bodies? Yeah you know after you a battle like that you also have to clean up. So we're talking. What fifty sixty dead? Vikings pile up and do a shallow grave. And you set that motherfucker fire. We move into the castle hall. And there's a big celebration. Going on. People are eating lots of more Turkey. They're only eating Turkey legs in this episode. I don't know if you noticed that now. As our resident Scotland expert is the country known for its massive Turkey farms in. Was it known for them over a thousand years ago just turkeys? As far as the I could see sounds about right to me you know. Instead of Viking army that was attacking it should have been a Turkey army that would explain all they ending Turkey legs so we see the meeting in meets expensive. It was definitely expensive back then. Like how fucking richer they that they just like Turkey. Legs are everybody. I mean you couldn't eat the rest of the Turkey or is it just makes no the rest. They use for catapults. You couldn't walk around outside the castle grounds without tripping over a half dozen Turkeys. Everyone knows that about Scotland nine ninety ish. Ad Turkeys were like the plague. I don't even understand. Okay off the rails. Okay so you said before that you thought the guy that Goliath was talking to you is the king. Yeah find that. In fact he is not he is just the captain of the guards and his men. Don't fucking respect them. He walks in and they're like whisper in another breath. Like more like captain of the Gargoyles. Ufuk pieces shit or like. Hey guys come on. He seems like he gets along. Well the Gargoyles yeah. He does but more so than the others. I think he knows that there'd be fucked without Goliath being there and he says as much he goes up to the lady the castle and he's like. Hey I was wondering can we? Can we talk about this whole thing? You know we had a good battle and and I appreciate your congratulations. All of it's very nice but we would have been done for if not for cargo and she still pretty anti gargoyles. She calls him a monster. Can we play this clip real quick? She's very anti gargoyles. Without Goliath goes out defense would have proven useless. Please don't mention that monsters name in my presence. Liz Liz. Where does this lady get off calling them? Monsters calling them beasts that just save your Ass Lady. She's not nice. No show some fucking respect. But of course she's talking shit on them referring to them as a monster of course. Goliath and his crew have to walk in. Yeah he's angry. He's growly well. It's because they're using the M word. Yeah how dare you yeah? It's a very dramatic reveal and the show cuts to commercial but our commercial break was better. So we're GONNA keep going as it turns out Goliath and Lady mcharg. Because she doesn't have a name they come in. They're not normally welcome inside the castle but El Capitan invited them to be recognized for their bravery to get the medals around their necks like at the end of Star Wars. It and then everyone everyone in this room is just spouting off the inward. We will not use that word again okay. Everyone's mean everyone's being stalemated. Peace there unnatural and they're not raw. Hey those gargoyles were there before that fucking castle was telling me what's more natural. It's true I do not know the history of Gargoyles but I have to assume as much where the fuck do they come from? Hopefully the show explain it. Lady mcharg oil gets mad in my notes when Princess Piss pants start spouting off biblical nonsense about Goliath being a bully. Because you know we talk about how Goliath gargoyles kind of fought off. Everyone is just like in the Bible. Big Guy I gotta say. Princess Pistons is not wrong here because I'm a biblical scholar as everyone knows so. I'm sorry I was something funny so we all know. That like Goliath was the bad guy in that story. It's a little weird for L. Capi ton to bring that up but lady mcharg oil. She gets mad and dies Gerrad and she's about to rip everyone in this room. A new asshole Goliath walks right. He's like hey you know what it's not worth it piece. She's like hold me back and he's like what we're leaving. We're leaving everyone. Nobody likes us. Cargoes funds fine cleaner debts. Yeah so particpants pitch. The princess yelled at the captain about something or another. It's not really important. And the mega says mentioned who is a white haired guy that is just kind of off to the side who says he's spouts off some negative shit. Yeah when they walk in. We're in a hallway. Now where Goliath continues to be too cool for school yeah and Lady Mic Gargoyles decides to give us a history lesson by the way ladies. Gargoyles is your friend in high school. Who are leather jacket? And she was like skipping school and smoke cigarettes. And you're like I like knowing this person. In my case he was a wrestler. Who claimed to have sex a lot? And we're all like okay. Sure maybe but probably not to the clip. We are what we saw. Her opinion will not change that. Have you no pride? No sense of justice. We saved their lives and they repay us with contempt shoes. Goliath you deserve better than this. These cliffs for our home ages before they built their stone fortress they should bow to us is the nature of humankind to feel what they do not understand. Their ways are not our ways. We learned that she second in command to bed. She and Goliath are a little extra extra love Which I mean they actually build some pretty good chemistry between the two of them. Yeah and later on. We're like Oh what is happening when they're combative. But there's a lot of hate fucking going on later in the season. Yeah which I'm excited to get to that kind of like a Batman and cat woman a little bit where they're like. I love you but also I hate you or newer speaking my language. Yeah this scene INS with a slow pan to El Capitan. And he is wearing the uncomfortable. Look of a man that has definitely walked in on these two fucking the his memories he can't wipe he's probably mostly uncomfortable the fact that he enjoyed it. So Oh yeah I mean. He went back to his Hayfield Haystack of Hay and Let he had some. He had a one on one. We're going to move to the magazine's laboratory and this is kind of our our first real. Look at the Magus who was voiced by Jeff Bennett. Who is also the voice of Johnny Bravo? Did you know that Jim? It know that. He's hunched over a very large book flipping through the pages like a toddler pretending to. He's not looking for anything in particular. Like I totally know this story. I got it. I had a toddler at one point in my life. This is exactly what they do from there. We jumped to hey cons camp. And there's a mysteriously hooded person. Who are you reading from my notes? So you hate horses. I'm staunchly anti so. We see a mysterious hooded person who is clearly trying to not be seen on his very loud horse is hey cons camp. It's not the Megan. So we don't know mystery man is makes it seem like it is right so the mystery man gets to the camp. Hey Con is eighty loan to hold a Turkey. Lay Turkey legs. It's the only made available in Scotland the entire country is overrun with. Turkey's your seek the fall of gas vern of it POPs. A bargain can be made. I'm listening Liz. Did you know a wide open is a winged two-legged dragon with a barbed tail? I did not know that I thought it was weird. The castle was not named after a person of the lady or if she had a husband of the Lord show her father unless the only explanation be her name is lady white or possibly ragging lady. Princess Pants is lady wifey everyone I know I know. Dragons are a big part of Scottish folklore. But you like Wales. Their flag has a dragon on it. Or is it a wide vern? Maybe have a barbed tail. Sorry sorry Oliver Welch listeners of which there are at least a dozen yes. You're welcome unlike your Scandinavian Vikings. Yeah here Vikings I said at once. I'll say it again. We don't want you so the mystery man wants to take down castle. Why Vern Yeah? We don't know why because that is clearly where he came from moving back to castle white burn. Everything had been happening during the daytime. And now's leaves nighttime but I guess that just has to happen because the gargoyles are only active at night maybe literally. Nothing happened during the day back at the castle. Maybe that was just like the lowly humans cleaning up all the DEAD BODIES. They burn them all. Yeah yeah smells terrible. So the guardrails awake El Capitan and lady mic. Gargoyles wants to Goliath to go. Find the Vikings. Yeah this is the first time we actually learned that their vikings yeah. I just assumed that they were another Scottish clan. I did the same that too because they are always worrying and try to take over each other's land. I've seen braveheart. I know I like that. Also that you have quickly adopted my naming scheme here El Capitan Lady Magog Oil. Poudel easy to Say Lady mcgarvy. I keep waiting to say Lady Macbeth. Oh it's I you know it's not even where I came up with that. Totally Independent Great minds you know me. And I'll bill shaky anyway so they want to go take care of the rest of the Viking Sudden Kill Them. Yeah Goliath knows better. He doesn't want to leave the castle in protected and that makes sense because They were attacked a yesterday. Right they would regroup and re attack. Yeah but the captain's like you've gotta go. He said they'll be back. We gotTA NIP it in the bud and that makes sense so glide if he agrees but he says he's not taken everyone else he can scare them away he can get him to go back to Scandinavia. Need anyone that's pretty ballsy of Solo. It's not smart. But obviously lady MIC. Gargoyles doesn't like that. She has words to say and Goliaths is well. Let's just listen. Okay that's too dangerous for you. Let me come along. At least you and the others will stay with the castle. You Best Laura I leave. You wouldn't come on. No I cannot let you. I won't go alone remember. You will die a one now and forever and then mere seconds after saying that. He'll do it by himself. No big deal. He can handle it. He says I won't go alone twelve. He has to listen to His lady lover. You know what that's a fair point didn't consider before I mean I'm a married man and I know when my partner is right. Yeah and even if you don't necessarily think there right you know it's just not worth the fight you know what let's not bring up nasty stereotypes like that because I will win a fight with my wife every day of the week. A zero shocked by this. But also I know you called a war of attrition and she knows when to quit whereas I do not moving on and then it gets romance. Yeah he's like. Oh you're my my light. You're my love. You're the beacon an a stormy sea but I got a piece the fuck out and he turns around he walks away like God damn boss in love him. I hate to see them go go. That's not the saying I couldn't remember it so we're back in the courtyard. We have our goofy oils. Good luck playing catch with a ham. Yes our first view of a a meet other than Turkey. But it's not good enough to eat just good enough to play only Turkey. They will play with a ham though. This is where we learned that other than goliaths. None of these gargoyles have named set. Which like buddy. Don't you love your other gargle buddies like why? Why are they nameless? And why does he have a name? You wear clothes you understand kind of human concepts but speak English. You speak English. You've lost your Scottish accent. I have to assume that when they're first hatched they come up with a thick brogue. Yeah and No names they call each other friend. Oh shut up. Red Gargle get the the reason that we are having this discussion is that they're talking to little Tom. It's a boy. There was in the refugee clan. He's just hanging out and he's chilling they're talking and then his fucking Super Scottish. Mom ROLLS UP ON HIM. And she's like go away monsters. I know that you saved us all from being raped and killed last night. But you are bad. And we're all aghast at such an intense reaction little boy is like but they're my friends now and then the crowd gathers and they're throwing sticks man so lady Mark Gargoyles has zero patients for that. Bullshit Arenas surtees come save us. A she swoops down. All you are the beast you beast good wine reading and the gargoyles get all spooky. Glory is is you want us to be monsters and beasts and monsters and beasts in there. This is not helping the situation guts. Goliath shows up and he chastises all the Braga Oils. And He sends them down to the rookery. Liz I have a quick question. What's a Rookery bird-flu like when you have hawks and things like that isn't that where they then? Why does it under the castle where the eggs are all of the gargoyles colony rooks typically seen as a collection of nests collection of nests? Okay so it's like where a bunch of birds live but none of our gargoyles live underground. They're always perched up on the if you look in you watch the scene. There's a bunch of eggs in there. I think it's where the baby gargoyles are. Okay so down to the rookery this show is going to do us in into the rookery in lady mic Gargoyles. She's trying to defend him. You know it wasn't their fault. It was humans. They're just defending themselves and Goliath. He's not having he said it doesn't matter who was at fault the fighting between humans and Gargoyles. They can't happen Liz. I think it's time for another break when we return. 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The scenes like tighten up really fast. We start doing like Bam Bam Bam Bam whereas when we had that battle sequence. That was long. That was one long drawn out scenes so it feels like they're like Oh shit we're running out of time. We have a lot of points to hit so we moved to the rookery where the brogue oils are down and they're hanging and as we mentioned many times in our episode but this is the first time I noticed it in the show. They hatch from eggs so they're not mammals and we've already had this discussion and I know in. Perhaps we'll get there in one of our seventy eight episodes. Maybe we'll see some detailed anatomy. I know you would be into that. Just an indictment of Liz right there because they couldn't hear you shake your him all right so the fact. Gargle who I guess is just are comedic relief. He scoops some very nineties. Oh the fat ones the funny and I don't appreciate that. He just scoops something off the wall and he eats the fuck. He's hungry. Listen Ben like five minutes. He's only eaten thirty Turkey legs today. It's what you get. You should've eaten that ham plane with your food. And make a joke about him being hungry and Lino what he can't help it and then we get a quick cut to someone fucking with bow. Strings has nothing to do with anything else up until this point. Yeah and then we come back to the woods. So they're following the tracks and they assume they're coming up. Hey Cons men and it does Lucy somebody. Yeah and it's a small group but it's not the threat that they were hoping to find and take care of it's like it's a decoy. Yes and I'll God it's almost sunrise. Which means they have to find somewhere safe to turn to stone and Liz. Did you notice and I mentioned briefly the size of these fucking trees. How Tall Goliath glad towers over regular sized human? Yeah he's like what nine feet tall? Yeah they're flying through hundred foot tall tree. Liz You know again as resident expert on Scotland every entries is Scotland entirely made of force filled with one hundred two hundred foot tall trees. Yeah I mean that's what I thought because this cartoon is very accurate accurate. Okay so Goliath and Jerry. They find a nearby cliff where they're going to hunker down for sometime this. Doodoo do but they're a bit too late Very to stone. Did you notice how dramatic and cinematic pose? A Dome was very model. Were they hoping that if they growl loud enough that they could keep it from coming on? I don't know happens every day. We know when this is going to happen out so late. We knew this was going to happen and like did they wait so long to try to find shelter TAP Goliath. You should be better than the a watch. All Right. We go to castle and hey cons back baby. Because after his first mistake of tacking at nightfall he learned a thing or two smart guy. Yup Yup attacking at sunrise. We also see that they had snapped all the strings of the boat. Yeah all the bowmen that go to take aim at the oncoming siege force and this is when that previous little cut away make sense because whoever was fucking with the most rings we learned. He wasn't just I. Don't oiling them up. I don't know I'm I'm not a bowman. He was cutting them or at least weakening them because they all the bowman pullback and snap WOMP WOMP so they're lacking the support of the Gargoyles or lacking there Bo defense. They're fucked. They are fucked. I mean Hey Khan and his men make really short work of castle. Whatever and at this point and that's when we learn that that mysterious man was actually L. capita sole traders. The guy in the hood that went out to meet. Hey Con. That was not Megan which the episode wanted us to believe it was El Capitan with his allowed asshole. Some people no I am staunchly anti horse but for those of you that don't fuck horses. I hate them. They're dangerous. We should shoot them all into the sun. No horses left behind so many questions. Listen because we're talking about you know mid nineties. Tv Shirley remember the episode of Full House. Where one of the daughters gets kicked in the head by a horse wakes up fucking Amnesia because she was kicked in the face by a horse. I mean Yeah Okay. Yeah that was Michelle Horst damaged. Don't trust him okay so I don't like horses. Hey con is taken over Castle Liron and this is where as you mentioned. We learned the El Capitan. Who doesn't get a name was the trader. He gives a very vang explanation as to what he's doing now that I'm a great three. Why betray your own knocked my kind liz? What do you think he means when he says they're not my kind he's talking about the humans? No latest loyalty. Maybe as he racist and anti the refugees being there. Maybe he's not a Gar- Oil. He like he is a human. I don't know maybe he's I don't know I have to assume that this is why El Capitan wanted Goliath to send all the gargoyles. He said you take your gargoyles. Go Find Hey con. He wanted no gargoyles there. Yeah so I'm figuring that he has something against humans here and as we see he's like hey don't smash the gargoyles. Don't don't do that you don't need to do that. He's more loyal to the GARGOYLES. His people like he was trying to save them. Which is weird. Yeah so hey Khan. He's getting ready to recall the gargoyles with I think it's a Morningstar. I think that's the one we're not going to do research. There's no way to find out. He wrecks the entire clan. And it's really. It's tragic to see it happen. I actually completely forgot that like I remembered as as we watching this episode. The first time I was like I was shocked at how much I actually remembered all of it until that it was like. Oh my God I forgot that. They're the only gargoyles left because fucking El Capitan. Hated his human people so much that he had come in and he couldn't in the other gargoyles out and it's all his fucking fault L. casuality do it but luckily as we know that Goliath and Jerry are out there safe and we know because if we've seen the show that the guys down on the rookery say somehow lady Gargoyles also stayed safe where she wasn't this but she stayed save. Coli F assumes that she is amongst the rubble when he gets back. He is heartbroken. Here's the thing about the rubble. Okay all the smashed gargoyles. So Jerry and Goliath come back. And they're very sad to see all this smashed stone. Yes why is it not gargoyles meat? That's so gross. It's I don't disagree. Maybe once they smashed the magic is broken. I have to assume that you're right there but I like my disturbing just piles of garbage or Hinz. Just oh God but it's not it's just don't but obviously. Goliath is heartbroken bad and so he lets out his really intense roar. I believe how it goes right. Cre- accurate thank you and that's the end of the episode. I would like to take one more quick break. We'll get some tissue will collect ourselves. Wow you laughed at my sadness fats. Weird I guess. We'll come back and we'll finish her up Hey there listeners. Are you into Alpha male bad ass leading ladies and happily ever after US check out another great Calama cast podcast? Dick of the week where I chat with my other two co host but everything we love in sometimes hate about both writing and reading romance novels so grab a glass of wine get comfortable and let's get down and dirty about romance find on calamity cast dot com or wherever you find your podcast Lizama. God we are back to finish up the first episode. Ever of defenders are uncanny right. What did you think about the inaugural episode of Disney's fascinating first episode since the majority of it took place in Scotland and the majority of the television show itself to its place in modern New York? Yeah so like I feel like if you've never seen it before you'd be like what is this. What is happening so I think that's a really interesting way to start a show. I'm curious seems when they end up in New York because I really don't remember they do give you next time on. But I didn't really watch it because I didn't want to spoil myself. I WANNA I WANNA go for know. I watched the owner of the kid. He's accidentally poop yourself. I don't WanNa put myself and I know that if I watched you know. I don't WanNa make a mess of my pants because it was way up track right now. I didn't want to ruin it for me. I'm hoping that there's more of like the magical aspect because you know I know that there's the curse that a get turned to stone for a thousand years. I can't remember why when that comes supply. I guess that's probably the next episode. That would make the most sense. But I'm interested in the more magical aspects and I'm hoping we get some I'm also as I previously mentioned a few times really interested in their biology in their evolution. So I'm hoping that comes in as well and I don't remember it ever being addressed now but I also probably not something. I was thinking about all that much back in the day. Not Keenly aware of when you were five and I was nine I can in my head pretty much wrote Lake Gargoyles fan fake without knowing what fan club though. I hope that you are going to continue to do so without program. So is it safe to say that the show up your memory from this year? Yeah eight actually hold up pretty well like so far. I'm definitely thoroughly enjoyed it. I can't wait to get to the next episode since it's the first episode. It's not touching on the bits and pieces than I do remember but I enjoyed watching it especially enjoy taking notes every like twenty seconds like what the fuck is going on here. What are we talking about? How could this be because you know in my mind? The more you like something in the more you tend to pull it apart yet. It analyzed and so the fact that it took me over two hours to watch a twenty two minute cartoon says something about my love of Gargoyles. Do you think we needed the cold open in New York though? Do you think that that was necessary? You know why since they don't acknowledge it again and I don't remember when they finally do come back to it. I really don't think it was necessary except to hint. Oh this won't all be in nine hundred Scotland. Yeah that's a fair point. I guess it does kind of it. Lets the viewer know that this is our setting were showing you like second number one. Where in New York City? Yeah I'm excited to keep watching. I can't wait. You know what we'll do this again. We'll do this again. Well I really had to stop myself from since you know Disney automatically Starts playing the next episode very quickly had to like no no no all? 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Episode 107: Righteous Hog, Man

Defenders Of The Night

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Episode 107: Righteous Hog, Man

"Welcome everyone we are defenders the night, the most trusted source for top to bottom coverage of everyone's favourite mid-nineties animated program, a good good good good. I'm your host Daniel William. I'm your host, Liz Urkel we are back once again. Discussing of course Gargoyles, we are still in season one today. We're discussing episode seven temptation. Like my new on Mike Voice, ideal I like it a lot I'm going to lose it. It's I can't do it forever. Tell the dates on this episode. Oh this episode. Temptation aired November Eleventh Nineteen ninety-four. We are well into the one a week model. It was directed by Saburo Hashimoto in Katsuo Toronto and it was written by Brin. Chandler reaves a new writer. It's a lady. into she is an emmy nominated writer known for her work on Spiderman. The animated series, motherfucking Batman the animated series and teenage mutant Ninja Turtles among other things they must love her list. Here's a fun fact for him. At one point Bryn Chandler reaves was the highest paid female animation writer in. Luck. Yeah, you, go, girl, you go, woman! Sorry, yeah. We're GONNA. Try some things a little differently today before we dive into today's episode, you and I want to remind everyone that five star ratings and reviews God it. They're just the best. And if listeners left one for our show, you could be awesome to with your help I know. We can get to the very top of the gargoyles. PODCAST charged. There are at least two more and I, just WANNA trout's those mother fuckers? Yes, and we're obviously the best anyway or the best because we are the hosts. Yes, there was some stars like some thumbs up I don't know I'm old. Whatever the kids are doing these days? Good to us. We want gargoyles episode seven showy. We start off in the mean streets of New York City. We opened up on Donatello. Lexington apparently building a homemade motorcycle many questions immediately. Would you like to hit me with them? Yes, how? Okay. I? Get it. He's the handy one the smart one but like. Where the fuck are you guys gathering pieces to build this thing? How did you learn how to weld? Where did you get a welding machine? From Yeah I have to assume that we have transported five to ten years into the future Lexington has spent all that time learning how to build motorcycles among other things. In fact, it's only been a week. Yeah can one week of his motorcycle looked at me, dropped your hands to the sides and said I'm angry chicken to China to Chinese. Chicken. Liz Brooklyn finally got his motorcycle shop I was really excited. I didn't realize it happened that early in the season. Yeah, would you care to explain to me how he already knows how to write it? I also wrote that question you. You are clueless as well. Okay cool. I did appreciate the fact that he was practicing motorcycle safety and had a helmet. Yeah, just jammed his fingers right through the top of it for his horns is strong the strength of his gargoyles. It's all over the place man. Yeah, but he looked awfully good in those sunglasses and leather, jacket and sunglasses at night. Always a good look when you're on a motorcycle. Okay! Is, he goes out for joyriding. He's fucking love and life. Okay. He doesn't even realize he's being followed by another Garg Oil. He's enjoying himself so much. And suddenly he's got the POPO on his back. fucking five Oh man. Yeah Pena's wants to live his life. Why did the pigs always got to be out for US Freewheeling Dragon men? I liked how like every cartoon ever? The police were busy eating doughnuts. It's a classic bit. Overdone at all. It's comedy gold. It always works. Was I'm drinking this terrible red wine and I'm not gonNA. Stop and drinking our Rosa and it's delicious. Okay Brooklyn is being tailed by the cops. They're trying to pull him over for driving. While gargoyles suddenly his wings come out of the back of his jacket. Even though when he sat down on his motorcycle, he wrapped them around his torso and put the jacket on over. So how did they unfurl any fucked up his jacket? Yeah, first off is weird. Seen him wrap himself with his wings. I was like okay and I guess that makes sense if we're GonNa, we're close. That's what you gotTa do, but I didn't like it looked weird. And then he takes flight. I'm going to say. He Glides Away Holding his motorcycle strength. Even though previously we saw him struggle with the weight of a Limp Lexington. Also seen him carrying two grown. Viking, yeah, that's what I'm saying Ari the strength of a gargoyles on this show civically. Brooklyn Steroids JUISTON game. All I'm saying is is a little consistency too much to ask for Liz I. No. anyways, so he mentioned to escape from the police, and alone behold there was a whole biker gang going by right at that moment coincident great timing, so he decides he wants to join them. They learn. No. Lexington just went through this last week. Hey, strangers, what could go wrong and every time are surprised when it goes badly is every member of the Gargoyles clan going to get an episode where they think it's totally okay to trust humans, and then surprise humans Dick's. Except for lady detective. Dream Boat that is the exception that proves the rule in. Yeah. Yeah, I don't think Dimona actually says later on. Great minds in Dimona cut from the same cloth. Were those fiery redheads right? Shoe. I don't trust humans there. I do not. Anyway so the banker guys obviously like his super sweet motorcycle, that Lexington created righteous hog, and he thinks Bro me, and my buddies made it, and then he takes off his helmet like dumb, dumb, an monster, the giant beak type situation didn't key them in on something weird about this guy. Well, you know. They immediately try to kill Brooklyn I. Don't know. Literally guns. Going, in Hell, dog piled him and. That's proof of strength. He just like more, and they'll go flying and ripped his jacket. He has actually a lot of bad luck with clothing because he had his cool sunglasses, a couple of episodes ago, got destroyed and now his leather jacket. PORTLAND. So, he throws all these dudes off. He kicks all of their asses. The biker leader pulls out his own handgun and has jumped by a flying cat I. Don't know if you heard the hiss growl of flying cat go by biker leader. His shot goes wide hits Brooklyn's motorcycle and immediately explode like a fucking ball of flames disappears inflames. It's Gone Daniel. Would one bullet make a bike explode like that. Yeah, especially, if it's built from I, don't know trash. I just have to assume that that was just built out of just glued together. Trash Lexington doesn't know shit about building motorcycles. He's Gargoyles and it's been a week since he met with pack. Call it three weeks. See I saw a motorcycle. Yeah, the very first time. I roll times a million Lexington. You're not as smart as you think you are pal. Really like making things explode, do if Brooklyn wasn't mad before he's fucking pissed, they destroyed. Luckily the Flying Feline returns and they finished kicking all the assets together. They take out biker leader. He empties his revolver, but he misses. All of the shots taken the Gargoyles Flea. BIKER leader takes off. Everyone got into this big fight for no reason and we in this scene Yup, they fly off and they land on a rooftop as they do because that's where they always go, and we realized that this flying gargoyles person who helped me Al Qaeda, girl, meow, meow, kiddy girl, was actually Dimona glowing red eyes, and he's all gasp, but what are you doing here Dimona? And she goes on to try to apologize for. Trying to kill all of them recently. She's like hey, you know. I was I was going through some stuff. It was a bad break up with me and Goliath I. Thought the best way to handle. It was a rocket launcher. Dimona so that was I was crazy of rage and fear and also mentioned how she has been awake hundreds of years, but she doesn't go into any detail throughout this episode. Which is really frustrating? Right because? Negative information about her though I'm like Oh. Okay, this is maybe going to start putting this puzzle together. What the Hell Damone has been doing. Yeah, she starts to tell Brooklyn. She's got a story man. Let me tell you all about them. Audience. Can you go to castle wider and while explain this really awesome backstory of mine? Okay cool, and we don't get the fuck in here any of it. I wonder if she did tell him anything really because she's like. I mean it's a really long story. I just want to get into right now. Traffic me. Human should not be trusted. They're horrible because I have hundreds of years a proof. She's not wrong, but she's also. I don't know we'll. Whatever's going on castle wiper and so much more interesting because Goliath and Hudson are watching TV collide. That's actually sitting there. Reading books and he looks early. Hi, how are you reading? When other ships going on pretty good? Really? If Hudson was sitting next to me, watching TV and I was trying to read I guess I'll go into another room then Jesus. Christ I mean to be fair. You are in the TV room. That's okay. Fuck you Goliath is what you mean to say. Get Out, go to the library. I read at work all the time like on my lunch. Break and other people are doing things in the break room Merle it doesn't normally bother me. It's a TV show. Semi interested in than I will probably have issues. I'm pretty good at tuning. Things out. Remember when this. TV only played the pack. Yeah, when did that get fixed? You know fixed. It did Owen Sorry. We were fuck with the last week. For. He asked I'm guessing. Has Hunch. Men who take care of Shit like that. Maybe Lexington fixed it. He's very good with very handy. Guys I got this I don't WanNa Watch that show anymore near because they tried to kill me, so they hurt my feelings. I wonder if the shows even showing anymore if they're in prison. That's a fair point was I didn't even consider that anyway. Well. If the show's in syndication, they'll still get paid for reruns, you know. Care Anyway they're just sitting there. Enjoying themselves in the TV room, the other oils come in and guy like. Where's Brooklyn and they're like he? No, he's out joy joyriding. Joy. The way that Goliath does every time. A new phrase is onto him. Oh, he knows all about Chile writing. He just doesn't understand the motorcycle aspect of it. He's like wait. WHO's he fucking? And we get into this really interesting conversation. We're leaving again. We're done. We spent more time talking about the scene than the actually took. Yeah. I hate when shows do that. Let's leave this really interesting situation and go see some bullshit, and before you can even a chance of the bullshit. Let's go back. So D- Mona's full of righteous anger. Yes, I WANNA. Play you a little bit of her monologue here because she tries to convince Brooklyn to do some shit, he's going to regret later yet. Lesson those humans you just met. What did you do to provoke them? I did nothing the just attacked me exactly. That's what humans are like. But goliath says when they get used to it. They were used to us a thousand years ago, did that stop them from betraying destroying our mind? Again Liz, she is not wrong. Humans are all pieces shit except for lady dream. Boat just like all of us. Every single one of us. She wants to show Brooklyn. All the ways in which humanity is bad and I hate to break it to her. There's not enough time in the episode. Not Daniel do anything that would have been perfect opportunity for her to explain what the fuck! She's been doing for the last hundred, years yeah. It would be pretty great, but we don't have time because they have to go to a commercial break. Yeah, it's true, so they have a real Aladdin. I can show you the world moment where designing shimmering splitter. Jamin, yes, so she's like come on Brooklyn. Let me show you. The saddest story of New York City ever, but before we do that. How about we go to a quick commercial break? Because that's what they're doing to yeah, they have pretty good timing, so we're just following suit meet. Rome. Thanks for listening help others find our show by rating and reviewing on I tunes checkout calamity cast dot com for even more content, and follow us on Facebook, twitter and Instagram to get in touch and let us know how we're doing. If discord your things, join our server. If you like what you hear and you want to help, keep the lights on. Consider becoming a regular calamity casts contributor patriots, or if you'd like to make a one time donation, you can do so at pay. Pal, dot me forward, slash clarity cast. We appreciate your support and your donations truly make a difference. We are back, and so is gargoyles. Yes, so what happens now Dimona manages to find a random person just totally happens upon the situation. She's really good at good timing. Instead of helping this woman, they just watch her assault happen. Talk about Shitty People Gargoyles is apparently shitty. Able had that same thought, but then I was like okay well, they help her. Maybe get her purse back. And then she's just going to freak the fuck out and scream at a gargoyles. The way that we've seen that happen every time. Yeah, they at least got her purse back in like tossed it and been like. Kept going I mean you're making too much sense. I mean Dimona would never know Dimona wouldn't but it's weird the. Tribe isn't like no I I know what you're saying, but we could help this person right than Dimona takes Brooklyn to the window of home where two parents are fighting and breaking shit and their son runs off which again. How did she know that's really specific? Let's stop at this apartment. Where surely someone's going to be fighting inside? Yeah, I mean the personnel okay? Yes, all right that probably happened every twenty minutes in New York and Nineteen Ninety, four I'm speaking ill of past place whatever they deserve it yeah fuck. You New York nineteen ninety-four and finally a murder, yes. I will go back to it how she managing to find these seemingly random events. Maybe she committed the murder. There yeah all right throughout this. She's making some really convincing points about the need for Gargoyles to distance themselves from humans. Let's listen to her. Try to explain to Brooklyn that Goliath really needs to be made to see. The light humanity will never trust or accept us, but not all humans like that at least our friend. Perhaps the policewoman is the exception the poops of all. But can she keep you safe? From the rest of humanity? Only we can protect each other Brooklyn. We must be united and strong and willing to deal with the humans as they would deal with us so like you said she made some really good points, and I'd probably want to stay away from humans to if I had to deal with that, but can we hold on a second? How the fuck she know about the pack. That's a good question that you I am Brookland all ask yes, and she's like. Suspicion that stupid idiot. I don't WanNA speak ill of a bad ass, strong driven woman. She's a boss Bitch. She is a boss Bitch, which is great, except she typically has a man that she is kind of helping out or working for or semi, leading control her decisions. And, I don't know if it's. She's using a strong powerful person who can help her with what she's wanting to do. Regardless or if these people are Swain her, I would say that it's probably like she sees men and she's like Oh. Can you use them? Yeah, exactly. That's how I'm choosing to look at it because she knows how to get what she wants to get. Get and she knows how to manipulate people, and it just so happens that the most powerful people in the world especially in nineteen ninety four dudes. Yeah, because I mean she was working with El Capitan in Scotland to all right. There's always a man who's calling the shots, and I'm putting quotation marks over on that. You can't see me because this is audio scenario medium. Tell if she's being manipulated a little bit, or she's just really fucking brilliant. I think she's really fucking brilliant man, and that's what I WANNA. Know Her backstory. Episode nine in this episode, so here is where she reveals her master plan. She wants the the magic the magic. She wants the magic book the. Laker Norman I think is what she called it. To Make Goliath, see whatever that means and Brooklyn issues like cool. Good idea I'm very cool. GARGLE and I agree. That was excellent all right? Yeah, but it's like dude. Okay? Sure. She apologized and she's showing things and manipulating. You cool coca cool, but she also just tried to kill you. Two weeks ago man. Good. Castle. Let's go there. Guess Brooklyn makes his way back home. Just as dream boat stops by to again. Convince Goliath that the Gargoyles need to find a new home because there's only like one more month until David's back. Yeah, whole Jiman-. Not It's fine. I think he's thinking in terms of like nine hundred ad worth like I defeated the phone. This is mine now. David owns this well I mean. He bought the Gargoyles to write to. Gargoyles have rights man. I mean properly not in this day and age. What I don't understand. Why would goliath want to live there? Does he think that deluxe is going to not come back to the castle like I? Ask because they're gonNA. Be Roommates essentially you know? Why would he want to stay at the home of the dude that try to wipe out his species that sounds like the start of a really weird romance novel. His our home. Bullshit isn't much of an argument. No, it's not because you can make a home elsewhere like. Castle. You're attached to it. If deluxe wants them dead, all he has to do is wait till noon. And he knows that yeah and Goliath knows that because he's seen it happen before. Yeah, Goliath, rent an apartment man. Yes I'm curious because Dream Boat said like oh I have an option for you. And he immediately was like no, no, no! I need to know like what did she like? Yes, this would be great for my gargoyles. Friends yeah, what a bunch of good questions that this show is asking and answering. Okay so Brooklyn also isn't buying. Goliath is selling our read. This is our home and it's over man. We won everything's good, and has the rest of the fucking gargoyles. dufuses stand around, not chiming in on one side of the other think of anyone I have real strong opinions. Yeah, he can't be sold that he's like. Whatever I'm just here to watch TV and hang out. As all this is going on, the sun comes up and then shuts the conversation down. Yeah, it's a great way to end a fight. Net Stone now. So nighttime falls again and the. We got a montage of all them bursting out of stone because. It's sexy every time every time every time. Never GonNa get old, I mean all right just like the whole stretchy. They get to see his. We going to get to see some lady. GARGOYLES burst out stone. I want we haven't had any of that. Show isn't fair to white straight dude. Because you know when they're creating that. That's exactly what they're thinking. You know come on, guys think of the street WAGGA. Some fine all right, so it's daytime. It's nighttime. They're awake, Broadway and Lexington hungry or they're like. Hey, buddy, you wanNA come, eat breakfast to which is so funny to me. That I was like. Yes, I just woke up. It's time. Time for breakfast whatever. And Brooklyn because he has some shady shit he needs to deal is like Nah I'm good to go into the castle and steal a Gargantuan Aranjuez. Tannen as he do does real easily right? Okay, so first off. Did that book just come with the Castle? Yes, that's the book that deluxe had like episode two or three. He had found the book that the Magnum had created. Mega! Magnum Pi. The wizard in wine drunk tonight. The wizard man had made his own book I know, and you said that in a previous episode, but here it is well established that you were off, but this connect the book the. Book had blank pages in the back. He wrote a tale. Maybe he wrote. Some footnotes like t dubs accidentally turned my gargoyles pals into stone for a thousand years. oops can't find the counter spell. So what you need to do is i. put them in the clouds. Magic is weird hello. Brooklyn, he's steals the book he goes sneaking around, but again this is his home. You don't you don't have to sneak buddy I. Guess there's someone saw him with that luck. Doing Buddy. Back just what you guys. Boeing now wizard dragon man. Weird that he so secretive? Because there are only six people in this entire building and he broke into it bashing that case, so it's not like anyone else walks in there. Be Like! Oh, what's floors covered in glass? Probably big deal? Because they don't even know what the fuck glasses now, but he didn't break the glass. Key thing like I feel like that would just keep it always locked instead of just magically unlucky, and you don't know anything about technology. Though it's aching, it makes it work. Yeah, the time all the time. As as a show proves right so from there they go to the cloisters yeah. Brooklyn flies the book to Dimona. Who then tasks Brooklyn with getting Goliath back there? Yes. Familiar with video game fetch quests, but this is exactly what it reminded me of all right? Thank you for delivering the thing now. I need you to get the thing like Oh for fucks, sick and Brooklyn does it. Yeah, we go to. The closer is just like we quickly cut to the TV room earlier. We're just happen really fast. Going back. We go back to castle. And he's like Hey goliath buddy. I found this cool spot. It reminds me of Scotland at home. I think you'd really like it. You should come in college. He was sitting. He wasn't doing anything he was just. Kneeling is closed just sitting there. I just perch. Goliath was doing the equivalent of staring off into space. He was protecting the castle. He was napping. Look I'm old. Nap and board have read all the fucking. Vanquished my phone. There's nothing to do. Don't trustee anymore. Let's go back to the cloisters, Liz? What is the cloisters looks like a weird. British, like if you're until like Downton Abbey, or something like that like a not a castle, but like. A state home or whatever but. New York City. It's like what what is this? It looks like there may have been a church later on. We see what I thought was funny. Is that Brooklyn's like `have is place. It looks just like where we came from, but they are living in where they living in where they came from Liz and I, guess the place kind of looks like their house. House maybe menges Scotland in general, aren't they? In Central Park Outside, Jessica Gould cloister Oh. You didn't do that beforehand. You're going to do it on Mike Yes god, you're embarrassing a covered walk in convent. Monastery College or Cathedral typically with a wall on one side in a colonnade, open to a quadruple on the other. Okay, so it's definitely a church there in later. Assumes. Covered walkway that opens up to greenspace the picture Liz. Showing me pretty much looks like what we saw New York has churches I guess I can buy that. Asked and answered, so then Dimona comes out. Of course she's got the Iraqi war spectacular. She's going to do some fucking magic with a K.. So like anyone, just do magic. Okay if you read the book like the Magus just had a book. He wasn't a magic guy. He was a dude with long hair. Is Good enough for me to just get stuck in my throat like you're gonNA. You're gonNA live with that for too long. Yeah. Anybody can fuck it magic. Dimona does magic. She's got the book and then we cut to break. Yeah, should we? Also? It's GonNa Happen. We're GONNA do it. This is a good transition by. Long. Hello this is Mike and I'm here to tell you about my podcasts comparing apples to oranges each month. One of my Brillian Co hosts an I consume two pieces of media that are new to US usually move album. We start each episode with a little background or history, and we create a set of criteria to figure out which one is better. Make things a little different. Different we only compared to things in the same category that don't belong in Saint John for example. Some past episodes had migraine cocoas, comparing to Roy trick movies to albums by the kids, a famous artist in two movies that scored zero percent on rotten tomatoes. CHECK US out each month wherever you download the podcast or head over to the Cato podcast. Step log spot dot top. Thanks bye. Hello, wow, we our. Listeners full disclosure, this episode has had some technical difficulties, and we're doing our best to row with anyway. Oh, great so! Goliath all surprised to see Dimona even though like she literally had no idea where she had been. Yeah, but when asked do you think she survived? Yeah, probably because he he knows his lady lady at Watch yourself. She's a scrappy kind of Gal. She survives. She's a flying Feline Gargoyles. He's like Oh hey. You'd be back. There aren't enough villains in this show throwing away so soon right by. He does seem surprised that she has the magic book. Yeah, so before our break Dimona sent Brooklyn to gather goliath right because she had to practice the spell. She's like it takes a lot I gotta get it right. You get Goliath I'm going to rehearse. There seems like there was no time in between. Let's take a listen to this spell because it sounds tough, yes. Do in stunt tart. With as it turns out, it was three words, and then you can shoot lasers from a book like a green smoggy thing that just takes over someone, and now he has glowing green is the spell works immediately. Who Did she practice on? How did she know she was to? I don't know. Yet and immediately Brooklyn regretful his decisions. He's like Oh, God. God I wanted him to see the truth not for you to be able to inflate his mind like this because she's able to now control him. God dummy, listen to Dimona. What did you fucking was going to happen? He's shocked. The he was tricked his baffled so Dimona. Obviously I. Can I mean come on dude? You wanted him to know that humans are bad, right? This is how we're GONNA do it. He's just going to be my little slave man until I can accomplish all the things I needed accomplish because those. oops Brooklyn. You're done. goofed up all right. I'm not even get into how Brooklyn could be so dumb. He goes for the book. He wants to reverse the spell. Yes, but he sucks. So Dimona six glass on him and she's like. Oh, no, I don't have to fight you I've got an attack dog now. Yes, and then Brooklyn attempts to flee. He breaks down the door of the old church. which I mean, those are some big doors. I, don't even know why I was questioning. I Ju- I. Just want didn't WanNA. Make assumptions. Cloisters, church got it all right so the rest of the scene plays out exactly as you'd expect. She doesn't want to hurt Brooklyn now, but she gonNA. For the greater good yeah, it's like an abusive spouse. You know like you made me do this. Yes, she tries to use the spell on Brooklyn. They tussle book gets knocked from her hands. It's very dynamic this whole situation. There's more hustling. There's more wrassling and she's like know what fine whatever Goliath kill this dude, I? Don't need him. Yeah, Liz glass doesn't client doesn't because you have to be holding on to the book and she's like, but I got the book, but Brooklyn Sneaky Little Devil and he is, he tore out the spout or spell. He had the power socket Dimona, southgate. Southgate so now instead of Brooklyn being like Hey Goliath. Let's all figure this out man. He's like glide killed him. Oh, no, like fucking again. There's like seven of you on the planet. Chill out you intense. Yeah, it's overkill, left and right. He's playing for keeps now. I guess he's had enough of her shit. Which I think he feels feels betrayed for sure right. I'm just another one of her little minions like he hurt. He thought they were team. Yeah, I have to assume. She's his mother. Because we haven't talked about that recently, it's been a while. Still only one lady gargoyles that we've ever met with a bunch of dudes three of them young. I really want to know their ages and like at what point do they stop acting like these like kind of Dufy? Teens become more like Goliath. These particular dufy teens. I'm GonNa say never always genes, these are the dudes that are are like you know what I'm. GonNa work, part time and seven eleven, and I'm GonNa live with my parents. Like these are those Bros. listen I dropped out of college after one semester because that shit is tough. These, dudes! Dimona! She's going to flee the scene. She jumps like fifteen feet in the air to great jumper physics. In this episode. They're playing fast and loose. Yes, you know I was just editing and older episode and we were talking about wing, flapping and flying versus gliding, and this is another one of those physics things where like apparently Dimona can jump twenty feet in the air. She's got a sick vert. She's running. She's jumping. It's bad ass. Goliath goes. What does he, does he? Does. He jumped to cut so. He just suddenly up there. Yeah, we don't know what he did. When he is under this spell, he kind of has his like lumbering kind of Phoenix to him. He's very not exactly Zombie like put. Zombie Ish, he's Frankenstein Monster, and he is the arms out the kind of stumbling forward and he he goes to grab. Dimona and they crash through this big stained glass window, and it's really cool and instead of crashing to the ground like you'd think again. They manage to recover in mid air like cats and flyway, so gargoyles are winged cap. They are winged. Cats want one no. That actually it would be really troublesome. Than Brooklyn follows literally flapping his wings gaining altitude. Yes, I saw that because gargoyles only can't fly when it's convenient to the plot exactly otherwise they can was specimen off I. Know! I made the same note I mean he goes up. He's flying. He's literally flying fuck glide. So goliath catches up with Dimona there in a park area. All Been in central park. It's all been very park very green outside, and that park is so goddamn big. Does it have like the cloisters I don't know. Next week I'm talk. Alliance is able to grab onto Dimona and takes her fucking down. She's ripping pages out of the book. which originally I was like. What is she doing? I'm pretty sure she was ripping out the like as it turns ashes ripping out the counter spell, because as we've discussed, you never keep the counter spell on the same page. Why would you do that? Dammit? The magic man was dumb and he wrote those book eight. Or. Did he just find this book? Because we've discovered, anyone can do magic if you have A. Book, He didn't Know Shit Yeah Idiot, so she is able to find the exact page while flying. He takes her down and it's brutal. Brutal. Twist them so he's the one who smashes into the ground far, but they fucking take down a tree. They destroy that trae dude. How much do gargoyles. Fuck ton and turns out. It was an adult tree. Yeah, it was like a fucking oak yeah! Dimona just decides to fuck off escape. Yes, because even though he's a mindless Ambi-. Goliath is still a force to be reckoned well of course, and then she gives a great villain line. Can I just plain this real fast? This time I'll get you next time, and then she flies off. Well, she doesn't fly off because she throws the gigantic normal snack him into a river. Is there a river that goes through the? Town bluff into a mill. What version of New, York, city they're living in yeah. I know there's rivers in New York obviously. The, Hudson, it's not the East River. It looks like just a river through the park, and there's a fucking bluff makes sense he's, doesn't she? Pulls some really goofy villain shit. It's funny. She does officiating into the air. I'll get you next time. Fox Off, it's great. You should be the the wicked witch. I'm good at being a wicked witches. Yes, you are anyway. Brooklyn was like none of the no in dives down in manages to save the book defying physics again six inches away from the water. Swoops backup. We've discussed this exact scenario before where. Terminal Velocity you can only fall so fast and if he's not slapping, he's not propelling himself faster than the book. That fucking book should be in water, whatever it's a cartoon, I get it cartoons in the nineties. They didn't respect reality as much. As things like adventure time. CARTOONS TODAY So we find out that it was actually the counter spells that she was ripping out as we talked about already. This is what happens when you keep that counter. Spell on a different page, yeah! It's such poor book construction. How do you put books together? I don't know I'm not an author, so Brooklyn is like come on, buddy. Let's go home and get some home and they're trying to figure out how to fix it. You can't Goliath Thas Adum Zombie forever. That's how he is for the rest of the series. Extend into the comics H- Dream Boat shown up dream boat shows up, and and she's like wait so like I have to hold these pages right. Just have to hold these pages and he'll do whatever I want. Schick it's wild, right? Allie Jean like yes, I finally get didn't do that thing I. Want Him to deal with the thing. Smile is on the fly. What's what's the bank? She doesn't want to say she doesn't want to reveal too much about herself right now. She's like the only thing I got is in my brain and. y'All. Don't need to know that thing. WAS A mad hot gargoyles sakes it's fine. Episode by. Out No clever thing. Yeah, let's hear it. Okay Big Guy. I'm holding the spell, and that means you have to do what I say. Goliath I order you to act for the rest of your life exactly as you would. If you were not under a spell, she's too smart for fucking book. She's like I, know books. Ain't got shit on detectives. Magic is no fucking match for Twentieth Century High waisted Dkny. Genes so, do you think that would actually work? Obviously, it worked in this, but like I. I won't eat to act like you would act. How'd you never been put under this over? That's the thing he would still be under the spell right like she could holding those pages, she could reverse that at any time. And you know what I bet. She fucking does I. Bet you pockets that spell and she's like. Oh, no, I know what I did. I know bye-bye. But his eyes are no longer glowing green. He's back to normal and Brooklyn so apologetic. He's like I. Heard You the first time here you get here. He just couldn't I couldn't react. Is Very quick to forgive this very small, very specific group of people. If you're Dimona if you're deluxe, fuck you forever. I'm never forgiving you basically, if you've tried to kill Goliath twice I, don't forgive subtle little brogue oils. He loves his little rascals. Little little guys. Can know any better. He didn't know any better than to trust demo-. Come onto. Yeah, he trusted Dimona I mean Yeah forgiveness. It's fine, but don't let Brooklyn forget that thing forgive. Don't let them forget the time that he fucked up. Early what do they do with the book? Do they just put it back in the glass case? Do, they set it on fire for Fuck Sake, knowing them. They're like Oh. This is our history will put back really they should handed off to dream boat and it'd be like. Can you bury this or something? Yeah, put it in safety deposit box I don't know what that is. I mean they know motorcycles. Motorcycle savings deposit back same thing motorcycles I the banking system second neuron. This episode ends with all the Dudes Tuck in for a long day's rest when Lexington asks, what happened at the motorcycle oh? Yeah, it exploded whoops. Over. And then you just see poor lacks. This surprise. Do feel cool face. Stuck like that until nighttime, and that's the end of the episode we're. GonNa. Take One more break. We're GONNA come. Back Along. Diane. Remind me to get Cherry Pie filling. Do Water. Oh come on, man I told you I don't even like David Lynch. Yeah, but you've never seen twin peaks. You might really like it. You never know there is absolutely no way I'll get into that show and prove it okay I'm intrigued how I'm going to watch every single episode and Co host the podcast where we discussed all the ways in which I can't stay in the show. Yeah, that seems counterintuitive. I hope it's funny. At least you bet your Cherry Pie will be. Funnier than that I hope shut up, subscribe to the Black Lodge. Complaint Department on Apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcast and check US OUT AT CALAMITY GAS DOT com. Well folks we are back. We've finished episodes seven T. A, Tom Waits Song new all everyone is familiar. I. I'll play for you later Liz. Was What did you think of this episode I liked it a lot more than last episode, okay? Wasn't speaking to be honest. Last episode wasn't great. This'll better. But it left me angry with so many questions so many questions that they could've taken the opportunity to answer. And the teased us what those things and that pissed me off. I agree I'm with you. One hundred percent I'm assuming we'll get more Dimona information later on, but like on would have been the perfect time to explain to us. WHAT THE FUCK! She's been doing for hundreds of years. I know. It's a children's program, but what makes for a good feeling is the idea of being able to sympathize with them to a certain degree. Why is Dimona acting this way? If you gave us that? Yeah, we could be more on her side for various reasons. Obviously I've made my opinions very clear. Not a fan of other people yeah so I. Get it from that standpoint, but what happened a hundred years ago or hurt you Dimona or you yeah I mean i. we think that she has been frozen for a thousand years just like the other gargoyles. then. We learned that. Maybe she's been away a few hundred years, but bad should happen like let us. Yeah I want to know and if it weren't David, who unmarked throws her? How did she get above the clouds right? Did Someone Hump that statue? Eighteen hundred someone humping that statue Glenn she is hot. But if it workday, but like David was the one that on stone her. Stone like. Then like why how did she find him? And why did she decide to work? These are all really good question. I assumed the reason why she's like Oh. Yeah you I, agree with your plans. And what you're doing is because he's the one that broke the spell for her. He doesn't even have any plans. He is into I. Guess Corporate Espionage, and also gargoyles murder I. I can't wait for him to get back in this show and give some real motivation. Because as we saw in the last episode, he just wanted to kill the Gargoyles, but he woke the gargoyles. He didn't have to do that. He just wanted to see what it it got to assume. We're only seven episodes in that. There is a big master plan or I hope anyway. Because if you look at what were given, it's all stupid. I bought a castle to wake up Gargoyles, which apparently I already knew is real, so I didn't have to do that then I wanNA. Kill him right? There's gotta be more. Yeah. I can't wait to find out. The LEX Luther of this universe. Hope, so 'cause lex Luther is fucking dastardly. Yeah, some interesting pesos yeah was as a as a human. Do think that would be accepted by Dimona if I helped her destroy. All humans aren't. Very. Lee should be like. Oh, here's stupid man that I can use. That's fair I am a stupid. Fully admit. Dumb guys. She'd be like yes. Yes, please let me use you all right. I two week it to destroy all humans, because I'm into it. Now that means me two bomber. It was. Liz who is next in the game of trust humans until they obviously turn on you Broadway for shower. All you do dangle some delicious food I was going to say is his episode against a hot dog vendor. I, don't trust you. I doubt vendor. He was son of a this is me. Yeah No, it's definitely gonNA be Broadway and. Food related I mean I think I just played it out I think. We, did it those are all my questions this week? Did you like this up? You know I didn't when I watched it, but discussing the ridiculousness of it made me like a little little more. Yes, but I have basically all this in questions you did. I have all the same concerns you did and I'm hoping it's just leading to more I feel like it is i. feel like. Like for what little I remember of the overall are of Gargoyles. Is that everything connected pretty well? Right? So this is just a taste of what's to come because I remember Dimona, and again I was a child, but I remember Dimona being a really good villain. Yeah, I, don't remember. Why Deluxe is game now? I don't remember that at all, and as an adult I remember ponytail. Are they just shitty. Roommate's like what is going to happen. You know. Yeah, but I'm intrigued for episode. I WANNA see more can't wait I know that eventually deluxe gets a gargoyles robots sue. I. Excited for that, and if its disappointing I'll flip a goddamn table, and like I mean they said in this episode of their a month away from deluxe, getting out of prison I. Don't know what will time line is so my guess is in the next few episode till we back in the picture looking forward to it, but for now we have to leave. Hey Pal oils, dear, dear Powell, thanks for joining us on another stellar episode of defenders of the Night I. Say Stellar because I wrote this before the computer crashed. We made it work. We've made it work. We as always would like to shout out Ian McGowan creating the interstitial music. You've enjoyed today. Check him out on Instagram and twitter at I'm not spelling it out. It's been seven episodes. You guys figured it out. It's easy. Underscore Breezy, underscored Mac and check out his band. Good deeds at good deeds, Music Band Camp Dot Com, if you want to talk gargoyles or your favorite motorcycle. Sake. 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Episode 105: Where Are My Sunglasses?

Defenders Of The Night

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Episode 105: Where Are My Sunglasses?

"We are defenders that night did the most trusted source for top to bottom coverage of everyone's favorite mid-nineties animated program Gargoyles. I'm your host Daniel Williams and other host Eliza Circle is. Hey thanks for joining me today. In the studio talking about old g goals Gar. Giggles DO GARGOYLES. Yeah you are a gargling. We are finally finishing up awakening. They were discussing awakening. Par-five Mrs Season One episode five. Yup probably should've said those in the different owner. You know whatever I the. I thought I had before. The episode really started when we had the theme. When are they going to do the Goliath intro? I have to assume we'll get the next episode now that we're done with awakening and everybody who started watching they're like. I don't need to know wakened anxious I'll I'll start with episode six that makes sense but tell me what did I miss right. Tell me in thirty seconds what I missed in the past hundred minutes. I just want to hear his voice. More alright calm down okay. I Dunno man when it is jump into it. You got any our news garden coil. You know what this episode Awakening Part Five Aired October Twenty Eighth Nineteen Ninety Four. It was written by Eric. Luke and Michael Reaves. They have written the entire awakening series and it was directed by Takemitsu Cow. Mora and Katsuo Toronto nailed it. Thank you I assume showy. Yeah as with every episode so far. This one begins exactly where we left off. In the previous episode the Brogue oils have literally one thousand guns trained on them. And we're GONNA jump right into clip here because Brooklyn says floor comedy to days in New York City and there are already making bad elevator joke so I found it interesting that we did start right with them because like in the episode before we saw a little bit of Goliath and Lady Mac cargo whose name I can never remember. We don't get it yet. Oh that's right and we get it this episode a I never remember it. You know we got a little bit of them and then they cut away to the and then I thought we were gonNA cut away to Hudson and Bronx. Yeah the way they did. These attacks on the various locations feels a little disjointed to me. I would have preferred it if they did one the other than the other. But you know what I'm not in charge so it was twenty five years ago after. They're funny goof. Ups They Scurry back up the elevator shaft as the yellow jumpsuits as I'm calling them now and my notes they distort light in their asses up firing they shoot up the elevator like they mean business right in the Gargoyles. Go one floor. They don't even right. I'm not trying too hard. No they find all these whatever scientists who you where are these other. Oh so they go up a flight. The camera cuts to the scientists. And then the royals explode through the ceiling so they go back down to the floor. They were just on. I missed that they would opportu bypass the guns but we need to be down so they just like destroyed the floor. But how did they know where the lab was from the floor above Liz? I mean I guess David just gave them really good info. Experts that reading schematics prints. Why not so all? The guards are on that floor though just in a different. Yeah the fuck okay. I didn't even think about that so you didn't notice the bad matte painting when they burst through the ceiling. Because you know how hand-drawn animation works is. You have the same background and when something changes you just put a cell over it. So the background would have been the ceiling and then the next frame. There's they punched through the ceiling. And the lights flicker background gets really like it. Shifts really weird. I'm not an animation experts. I don't know exactly what the terminology would be. But you could tell the background was jumpy and did stays like in focus and doesn't move fascinating. You didn't see it but it was awkward to see. I like it was so weird that I rewound and watched again. I rewound my vhs cassette. And I watched again. I will have to rewatch the beginning with what's happening there. You know in the room with all the scientists and this is my really to understand first off how does Lexington no I understand. They explained to him. Okay you're going for this floppy disk. But he was boop knew exactly what to do. Yeah he knew exactly where to go like. Oh look technology people boop here it is. I got it. How because he is the Donatello of the group yeah does machines and then Broadway throws something a window and they're like Foca so for these scientists sake they are doing science the ceiling explodes. Monsters jumped down. I start to menaced them steal a floppy disk. Destroys the property. Like if you're on scientists you'd be like what the hell just happened. God what would you tell your spouse when you went home that night? I don't believe anything I said after. That anyway would seem ill right honey. Honeydew we need to take you to the hospital now. It's all very checked out. And there so our Powell oils palled around. They make a quick and easy. Get Away too easy. It seems too easy but again like they weren't where the guards are some the Dorky. Scientists don't necessarily know how to fight these monsters. No guards are assisting those fucking nerds. Yeah all the guards in the hallway. Nobody's in this room where the disk is. Yeah you'd think they would have heard the floor exploding and been like perhaps we should go See if they're okay in there maybe a war if they did go up a floor because they saw the oils up there and then there would with the folks and then lick maybe follow. The whole scene is following video game logic levy enemies in a different room. They do not bother. You are okay. That's Hilarious is Liz yes. We moved to the sewers where Hudson has certainly more of a problem. Procuring his disc. Yeah he and Bronx are going through these tunnels and they are spotted on a closed circuit television system and a platoon of the jumpsuits. Get the drop on Hudson. And he's like I'm GonNa fucking tear you apart and he starts ripping limbs and he starts punching guys and Bronx's chewing away arteries and it's brutal. It was pretty bad ass yet. None of that happens now. He can give up like a coward. I need these old. Hudson is the two days from retirement. I'm getting too old for this. Shit gargle literally that he literally says I'm getting too old for this. Well they they meant to look up. I didn't when did that movie. Come OUT THAT. I'm too old for this shit. I don't know if that was lethal weapon one or two but way before way before this it was probably a purposeful reference. Yeah for the adults watching and you know what Hudson is a big Fan of TV. Yeah maybe he just he saw them. That'd be areas so hudson is captured. Yes let's did. Everyone missed the giant doglike thing that he was rolling with because Bronx just rushes in and starts tearing dudes part for real this time and instead of immediately opening fire on the dog oil in the crazy winged monster. The guards stand around with their dixon their hand like. Oh what are we GONNA do? There's a dog thing. This guy's Jacking. Us wanted a time. What what guys. I hope. They're not paid very well. I had a note. Hudson gives no fucks about these humans. Ll Not have the same feelings towards humans that Goliath has no not at all and then know the fights happening in someone. Actually take a shot. Finally by the guy in the captain's Ad I feel like everyone of these soldier guys. Whatever the fuck were calling them they really suck it shooting their guns. They're like stormtroopers Even worse because they're not firing the dislike bumbling idiots yeah when they do fired like the US a Jillian bullets or lasers or whatever the hell it is and they don't hit anything like last episode or episodes ago when Lady detective turns over her shoulder and hits them with one bullet but she's being fired upon like a rain of bullets and nothing hits her like what she's in the Matrix. Yes so time a slowdown for her. So she can dodge all those bullets and fire. One perfectly aimed shock. Did you notice that the one shot that was fired in the scene? Shoot some sort of science device and then catches fire. They really like things catching fire. They are into fire in the show. It was a computer literally. Nothing would've happened. It would've maybe maybe says old. I guess like don't go around shooting a ton of computers like a waste waste of bullets in computers. Oh yes cracked me up that you know we have this compared to Lexington who's like beep disc and then Hudson issues like Smash Smash Smash. Here's my desk. He was literally in the right place still out of all the machines. He walked right to the proper Michigan and slams it down and I thought he was going to push the big button the fake out. I don't know what that big red button does. Which probably not good our big Red Buttons Ever. Good things The easy button. Yeah that is a big red button. So he's got the disk and before the GARGOYLES can escape. The Colonel Hits that bigger button and shuts the blast doors. I guess what the bigger to buy a big red button middle like that makes no sense. No I got a big red button on the wall or something that you hit to like door shutting button right not a better phrase for it to her shutting it so the gargle off the rails the gargoyles off down a random hall. And that's never a good idea. That's like horror movies shit. The fuck. You're going yeah. They're making their get away. Get trapped in a weird cage thing above some subway tracks. Yeah that's what I was GonNa ask you. You been a New York Avenue. Yeah did you ride the subway? Yeah I mean I guess if you're in the train you can't look up but like I'd assume something like that would exist for maintenance. I've never noticed the size of a subway tunnel or tunnel. That seemed really big underground. Train STATION TUNNEL. That has been turned into science lab right. So maybe it's extra big extra roomy for the science. You need space for Science. Ciano the floating sidewalk practically like they were in and then Hudson being the bad ass. He is just like rips it open and jumps onto a train. Your he does not have time for this shit. No he does not they. They finally escape. The TRAIN GOES ABOVE GROUND. Hudson catches the an updraft and they take to the air crash land nearby and they're safe strong gargoyles he's carrying Bronx. It'd be Bronx's got eight hundred pound bombs. The opera is a hefty boy. Yeah that's two successes yes. We're two for two one. More to the airship okay. Wouldn't it be hilarious? If the broil succeeded Hudson succeeded and Goliath fucked it up and like didn't or broke his disc or something harder so back in the airship. The lead hat is freaking out. Because you know. They know that they've lost two thirds of the data and Lady mcharg oil. Here's this somehow and takes this opportunity to say wrong. You lost it all through that giant steel door. Okay do they have like bat hearing do you think are they like part bats that they can hear really really well. I mean they do have large ears. That seem like a thick door lady. Mma gargoyles opens up the door. Like WRONG BITCH. You lost all of it. Yeah and again. It doesn't surprise me that she of all people knows exactly what she's doing because she hold your but I guess just like waltzes up to it and it's like beep boop and there it is and doesn't mine and the jumpsuits here don't even bother like this is the biggest thing that I've ever encountered. And he picked up a dude so you know what fine. Take your desk what he knows. What a yeah. And then for reasons. I don't understand. Lee Mc Gargoyles after retrieving the diss punches. Down into the computer console thing pulls out some sort of lightning filled tube touches it to a wall and somehow starts a fire Liz. Yeah I don't think the creators of Gargoyles no in any way. How computers work more fires. That seems to be true. Liz Yes what the fuck are we supposed to believe is happening right now? I don't know why is that tube filled with lightning. Yeah I don't think that's how fireworks. What what the fuck did she pull out? Pull out lightning tube like in the nineties had supercomputers I had to have lightning in order to work okay. Regular computers used regularly supercomputers use Super Electra sedate. Lightning lightning God. So has she been on this airship because we said that she knew all about the disk and she know where to get it but she posed. How did she know which? Computer David with the lightning. And it's in that one got it know all about lightening fine. So now there's smoke there's fire. Yes and Goliath. Why the fuck did you do that? And she's because I hate people. Douglas and she's like. I don't time to talk about this shit right now. We've got a book because it's exactly where my notes say. This bitch is evil. She is she hates all. Humans hates except David. I don't like they have to be fucking right and we're going to get to that at the end but yeah absolutely goliath wants to help the humans. We can't just leave him here. He says she's like fuck. Yeah we can. Also how does he know what the end result is going to be? They are putting out the fire because what this one room so like. How does that result in the airship going down was? That's a fantastic question. One that like God wants spark is going to make this thing explode if it is like that. Maybe don't have a supercomputer. Because when they got to the airship last episode they were being pushed backwards by the engine exhaust fans but that's what they were. They were spinning engines. Yes as one single computer caught fire. And the Goddamn airship goes down in the river. There goes and of course detective Dream Boat just had to be there. She's Look Rut. Rose that is of the giants. Whatever the fuck it is I guess. Are they used to seeing this thing or is it like incognito like do they see this thing floating above? New York was. I didn't even think of that. But yeah like what she expecting like. Oh it's the Zeppelin that I see all the time right slowly crashing into the river and then yeah two gargoyles and then. She's sick Goliath Goliath. We're GONNA we need announcing already we. We're going to have some words sir. Who is lady with you? I was your lady what the FAA was this whole Zeppelin slowly crashing into everything Israeli. Just Gimme perplexed. I feel like we should take a print look hunky hero and a fantastic leading lady to be brought to life with lovenox indulge in radio drama filled to the. Brim with romance laughed. All those wonderfully become with a new relationship and don't forget those delicious sexy parts that make Romance Novels. Oso to enjoy season. One of eleven love is available now at calamity cast dot com or anywhere that you can find podcast and we are hello. We are at Castle. Live though I have the justice. Shut up David you suck and I have no idea what that reference to well he was probably talking and then you like. David doesn't need anything specific. So as the Gargoyles were one hundred percent successful in their mission of returning the disks Liz at the nine minute. Twenty one second mark. Did you see the size of this disc? Did you notice that? David is holding it in his hand and it is easily three times the size of his hand. It is fucking gigantic. It's like the size of a record all of a sudden. I didn't look that big in the gargoyles hands because they're gargoyles. I think that it's just inconsistent. Animation changing scientists and then they do a wide shot radio disc close up giant. Maybe he was trying to emphasize the importance of this disc by making it bigger. Was I appreciate what you're trying to do here? You don't think they put thought into it but no. I think that it was just an animation mistake so obviously David's very happy to have his desk and he's just like okay. Thanks God I really don't like him fair so glide is talking to lady mcharg oil that he's got to go. He's got a hot date and he doesn't want to be late and she's like who the fuck are you talking about? You shouldn't trust any human. Yeah any of the except David. This kicks off a really interesting conversation. I WANNA listen and it's kind of long so just deal with aside from xanthos. We have no human friends nor should we humanity. Is Our enemy Goliath. I thought you learned that a Millennium Ago. Not Make War upon an entire world. Doesn't Santos prove that there are good humans as well as bad? Can you forgive the humans for what they did to our kind? The ones responsible for that have been dead for thousand years. Then there defendant shall pay. I will have blood blood. You said the centuries of changed me. They've changed you to become hard unforgiving. You're not as I remember you. I'm going to see my friend so she possessed like now. I know I keep asking this question but like it makes no sense to me that she hates humans this much. Then why trust David like it makes why I mean you keep asking it because none of this chip makes any sense. It would be really interesting to see lady gargoyles before. She decided that she hated all humans to get a real understand real understanding of what that turn was because even when we see her thousand years ago she didn't trust the humans it would have been really cool to see what made her turn and maybe understood this kind of evil streak a little better because right now it's just making her look bad. She's an asshole. Yes she's just evil for the sake of being evil or you know angry for the sake of being angry but without a cause right. We'll get there who maybe we're only five episodes and we've got seventy three more to go. Who Anyway Goliath is like you need to get a handle on your shit. I have places to be an lady to woo. He fucks off to and then we cut to D- Alexes Bank of computers. He's got incredible camera angle of this entire argument. He's watching it all happen from a drone if you notice the camera angle on his computer screen. It is like pulled back wide shot from above like bird's eye view. How the FUCK IS HE GETTING? This Camera Angle. You see this in cartoons and shit all the time like how are you seeing the same view that either viewer emceeing? He's secretly because they don't understand technology. He secretly during the day strapped go pros to their chests and they don't even realize that they're they're yeah exactly before we go to the next. Liz Deluxe says Goliath is too hard to control. What a pity something like that creepy and weird talking about I guess. He was expecting Goliath to be like a mindless monster that he can control like a Frankenstein's monster kind of situation but then Frankenstein's monster gets a brain and smart. Sounds like no no no dad. You can't control me. I'm going to go do my own thing. But he's had previous interactions with lady mcharg oil. Who is very manipulative and conniving in her own right yes for sure but I think he's realizing Oh Goliath is too good maybe like I can't just convinced the man to attack an airship. I guess because he's out of the fight between Lady G and him that he's like oh I thought having her around would like get him to do things and he's he like. No no no. I don't like this side of you bye-bye I don't know. It seems like a quick turn on David's part but he's just like because deluxe is plan has one hundred percent worked right. So why is he like Goliath all of a sudden even though I totally got him to do everything I wanted and you think the fact that Goliath does trust humans more than lady? Jaye would work on David's behalf. Yeah Yeah we've finished our worrying about deluxe. Yeah we're moving to the rooftops taking so detective. Dream Boat is patiently waiting for an explanation as to where to wear Goliath was 'cause she thought him flying away from as she calls it a plane crash girl. I don't know if you've seen a point before. But it's fucking not a plane. I have never left Manhattan. I have no idea what a plane is. One thousand nine hundred ninety four so she's not familiar with the future. Yeah not a good detective but she is because she already know some Shit Yeah. She knew the three labs were robbed by creatures. So she's like she's like affect my gargoyles and motherfucker. I saw you with another woman. Yeah so it's just like really just yelled at because I going to go see you in late. Gd You're gonNA yell about her. Do you think that's what love triangles do anyway? So he explains that the desk were stolen from David an he was just helping get back. What was rightly his. Yes they had to fight and yes destruction happened but like we were helping David. It's fine dream. Boats not having any of glance condescending. Patriarchal Bullshit dropped some knowledge on his ass. Check this shit shit out. Remember this trace. That emblem. It's the logo of the robotics firm that's owned by. Are you ready Xanax? Enterprises are you saying that Santos's responsible for the attack in the park. That's exactly what I'm saying. He probably planted that Boko new himself. But those were the same men who stole the disks from him Goliath. Nothing was stolen checked. Those discs were cyber by addicts property. He must have stated that to trick you into stealing the disks. He used you. He's been using you from the beginning. Pretty sure this confirms our theory. Deluxe is behind all of it. I don't fully understand why I don't even understand. Okay Liz. Can you explain it to me? So that means all three labs his is that what it means. That's what I was confused. Minute okay actually know this own cyber -biotics so here's I think what happened okay. The case that was stolen didn't have anything in it right. It was empty so the the helmet guys are his so the attack. That happened in episode two. That was his people to stage a fake robbery. So he could be like hey. They stole that from me. I need it back so the discs were never his information The data was never his. He just needed. He knew Goliath Gargoyles. Wouldn't just Steal Willy. Nilly had to have a reason and the reason was they stole my shit. I need it back. Stealing it period. Okay so he doesn't own these cyber -biotics company no his rival rival. Yeah Okay He. He came yes. The case was empty. Had nothing in it. He pretended to have his shit stolen. And that does make sense. Because these cyber -biotics jumpsuit guards looks different different than the helmet. Guys Jumpsuits v Helmets. Yeah all right you got it. Make sense to me. Yeah I accept. Oh so dream. Boat Convinces Goliath. That deluxe is definitely a shit. Dick Desk Fuck but the have to trust somebody. So why not a her and then she rubs his face. Oh yeah she promises. It'll be worth like girl. You are using your charm to win him over you know. He's thirsty. Boy Live boy. Come here come to Mama. Gotcha boy. Sh God it's going Zana Toast Tower. Yup Liz play this clip. Yes please it has to do with in Deluxe spouting some shit that I just. It goes back to the the not being able to trust glass. It just doesn't make any sense so all right let's listen. I'm afraid. Gargoyles have outlived their usefulness. I can't count on their loyalty but now with the data on those discs. I can bring their replacements. Online holiday already outlived their usefulness. They've been uncurbed cursed for like two days. Let you. That's fuck ton of work to get these gargoyles generic city to be like we're done with you is who days maybe three. I'm even so flustered. Because he gave them one assignment and they did and he lied to them about the assignment and they still fucking did. What is he talking about here? Like he's lost his marbles bonkers so okay he's full of Shit. Hurry the usefulness of Goliath and company he had them steal the discs for robot related reasons. It kind of sounds like he in Owen. They're like hey when the sun comes up and the other gargoyles are asleep. Test them and lady MIC Gargoyles. Like why the fuck should we wait? Let's blow these mother fuckers now. What is her game well? She's manned that Goliath is with another lady she's using her vagina. That think right now. So you're telling me that rather destroy people the only people who are left the only ones left so she called the last of kind the last she wants to be the last gargoyles. Does she really think that if he's like all right? I got these robots now. I don't need creatures. I can't control. She gets the stick around like she's elusive right. She's way more of a loose cannon than than go is in the other she's a loose end. Loose cannon yeah. She thinks she's more important than she is. The problem women are always thinking that sexism we go outside and our are just chill and just like chill into the Max. Where did you get that little computer? He's got a little computer Brooklyn his sports them. Six shades and Broadway. Being the fat one has an entire dining setting of snacks he got like takeout from everywhere they get the table. It's gotTa tablecloth on what Does Avenue. If you have a billionaire who is your pretty much sugar daddy right like. That's pretty much what David is doing taking care of them. You just dragged out a table random room. He's like I want to eat. Yes so this further confirmed my theory that these are all Ninja Turtle. Analogs get back to that. Goliath is Leonardo. Obviously he's the leader. Lexington is our DONATELLO. He does machines Brooklyn cool sunglasses as a Raphael but rude. Yes give me break. Liangelo isn't Raphael. Yeah so yeah okay. Michelangelo is our Party Dude Broadway. Always eating pizza so Hudson. He's gotTa be our master splinter. I assume he's old. Yeah WHO'S BRONX? I couldn't figure it out. I sat there like who is Bronx in this scenario. I don't know because obviously Casey Jones Amish because I don't have anyone left Bronx's Casey Jones share because they don't have any pets now. No turtle a turtle. No that seems inappropriate that seems like slavery anyway and then robots. Let's get into this robot. Shit Deluxe has built giant Gargoyles. Automatons right like why if you're going to build robots that can do whatever you want and destroy set like me to look like. Why do they look like Elias? Why are they looking like Gargoyles? David I think David also has a boner for Goliath. Yeah maybe he recognizes power. Yeah in leadership. Do you think that he? How long did it take to build these robots right? Did he have them and he just needed the software? Yes I think that was. He had them and that's why he needed the disks but like just like boop that into the computer and like power them up like I guess. It's some sort of technology that he hasn't been able to create himself so that's why hit to steal it from the other people. That's gotTa feel really shitty right. You're supposed to be the best and you're like oh I can't do this thing. I WANNA do without the shit that they created and the reason I ask is because winded. He decide that they were all going to look like a life. I guess he when he went to Scotland and I was like Oh yes castle. I'm GONNA buy it. He just stared longingly at the statue. And he's like this. This is what I want. This is my I was GONNA say. David this shelby my masterpiece exactly he tells the robots to attack and the Robo goals start firing off all kinds of lasers and shit and it gets really exciting. This episode is full of lasers and gun play. Shit it's wild. Why does it? Nypd do nothing about the fact that this building is constantly having light shows in two days to attacks. Yeah I don't know I wonder if it's because it's so high up that they cannot see it. I like what he's describing. Why The robot? They're better and he's like well they can fly. They don't just glide unlike Oh way to way to slide that dig on them. Also they have rocket strapped to their backs flapping their stupid robot wings. Shut up can you just imagine how rich deluxe must be that first off he was able to buy a fucking castle? Haven't transported bit by bit and rebuilt in New York City to have these gargoyles for only a couple of days. Also somewhere in there built these robots like dude. Get A fucking hobby. It's building killer. Robots but here's the thing why what are the robots for. I can't wait to find that. Oh what is his fucking in game here. Did He. Build the robots to replace the GARGOYLES? Did he build those robots in six hours? I don't know I have so many questions about these fucking robot. So he had gargoyles. His purpose of them is to protect his company right and also steal stuff from the other company like to be his minions. I think he was born. He was like own. See if Madrick's real yes. Yeah magic is real as a cool. It's real. I like my robots butter though. Go these imagine trill fucking robots a cooler and you know what I gotta say. I'd rather have goliath that isn't metal. Stone over metal. Yo I mean if you give that robot glass a good personality it's Kinda yeah but doesn't have a personality or milling machine on at the moment but there's always room for improvement. Just makes him even more like Tony. Stark had Tony Stark. In all of my experience has never been out now just evil. No not at all let me. That's his hope thing as he's like. Oh fuck this. I can't have my dad's company being used to make missiles and shit for bad people. Tony Stark always accidentally evil like most of the time. He's got like a good idea. A heart of gold in that little glowing but he's always messing something up and like. I'm accidentally the villain again. No let me fix s. Got All my friends killed. Poor still just go back in time anyway so back to gargoyles which I feel like we've only talked about sixty percent of the time this it just keeps making me think of other. You're not wrong. We get a really action packed. Sequences the Gargoyles try to say the jet packs and lasers and it's really it's no use. They are no match for these robots Broadway gets taken out and crash lands Lexington gets hit mid flight and broken managed to catch him mid air. My Poor Little Lexington. And here's the thing about this scene. This little berry here Brooklyn is acting like he's struggling to stay aflutter with Lexington in his arms right but Hudson could carry the big dog. No problem in the first episode Brooklyn was seen carrying to vikings in throwing them over the castle walls to full grown men. You're telling me that Lexington weighs more at three foot. Six inches weighs more than two full grown vikings. Liz I don't buy it. Some Justice Brooklyn's being blasted out of the sky. Goliath shows up from his date and smashes one of the bots and shit just goes crazy at this point so of course. It's real. Goliath versus robot Goliath in. It's pretty Intense Loy there's lust in your eyes. I see across the table making me uncomfortable. Yeah and so yet again Gliding makes no sense because Goliath is going against robot him and just like FIS up into the sky. How little buddy. I can only assume that. He caught like an updraft but it looked like he flapped and went up word so anyway he moves Lexington all the way who's unconscious and put them next to Broadway. Who's also unconscious and then goes back to the fight. Meanwhile who has been chilling out in the TV room watching the real world road rules. Challenge comes out because of all the noise is like what are you crazy. Kids up to Holy Shit fucking. The castle is once again just collapsing around him. Lasers are going off left and he and Bronx are attacked by another Goliath box. There too quick. They've got those like reflexes at two hundred and fifty thousand years old. Bronx manages to jump up and grab the Goliath Bot in mid flight and grab by the tail and his pulling and pulling in Hudson pulls out his fucking short sword which I often forget that he has to and slices that robot like forehead to Dick I. He's way more warrior than the others. He's is like almost like armourer his shoes. And why are they not all arm? No clearly they know that weapons is maybe they think their claws are good. Enough like Hudson knows than that and he's like you know what here's to humans understand certain things and it's okay for us their shit. Yeah TV. The sword wearing clothes we briefly cut to the lobbyists detective. Dream Boat comes running through my God and we're explosions. Yeah like I already know what's going on. I'M GONNA I'M GONNA go ahead. I'm just GONNA go. She runs right by the the security guard and lobby. She's like no. I know where I'm going. We go up to the Skies Glances surfing the back of robot. Maybe he's the Michelangelo. Nah Okay he sends that fucking robot just careening headfirst into another flight robot. Yes taken out to at once. It's awesome the fucking master. They rain robot. Parts down onto deluxe and Owen. That was pretty funny. Like fuck you you piece of Shit. Well deserves that. He does and he's just sitting here like This is not going how I thought it would. This would really on my favorite. I laughed out loud when those parts were raining down on them was like fuck you. So here's my question. So you know they're beating ass taking names and and winning right like the tide has turned to since glide showed up there actually succeeding. What does David think is going to happen? That like oh I just tried to kill them for no reason and they still live here right. I ask that later on like what is the expected outcome right. Does he want to kill the Gargoyles? It seems like whereas it just another test. I don't know but like how do you come back from that? God is like all right this dude just fucking trying. Kill me in my people my. Bros and cool. We're just GONNA keep chilling on this roof and eating food. And maybe that's the exchange. He occasionally he tries to kill us. But like it's free rent so it's new Manhattan expensive. Yeah that speaks also to lady mcharg like why does she want you said it earlier? But why does she want the last of her kind to be destroyed? Robots do not understand her. I feel like I need a deep dive character. Study of her family. Learn more as the show progresses so Brooklyn and Goliath. They managed to take out the last robot by trapping. Part of the castle on top of it does he just have a mason on call. Come Fixes Castle every fucking day not on call the Mason just lives on site. Yeah every day pouching this again so they take the last robot there are no more robots and as angry as lady. Mcharg oil is like you wouldn't think that what happens next would happen but she pulls out a fucking Bazooka right and starts firing at the last gargoyles in existence. When did she learn guns? A B. Why and we don't learn by the end of the episode. We do not learn what her deal is. Why she so angry. Liz yes there's a dramatic act break here in the episode and I think we should follow suit. I'm left flustered. I needed. Take some deep breath. Okay am worried I am worried. We're GONNA take a own. Thanks for listening. Help others find our show by rating and reviewing on I tunes checkout calamity cast dot com for even more content and follow us on facebook twitter and instagram. To get in touch and let us know. How doing if you like what you hear and you want to help. Keep the lights on. Consider becoming a regular calamity cast contributor on Patriot. Or You'd like to make a one time donation you can do so at pay pal dot me slash clammy cast. We appreciate your support and your donations. Truly make a difference. Okay so we are back at the drama and the castle. Oh it's still happening and leading your mcharg oil. Just has her fucking Bazooka and fires a rocket at Goliath. Any like fifteen feet away girl what are you doing? You love that man you literally just like yeah. They were wing hugging in the last episode. They were we. It was hand stuff their wings were protecting them from view. The hand stuff. Here's the thing like how do you turn that? If she had hit him she would have been covered in his core. That's how close. She was standing just glide meet and he's like what are you doing? What are you doing right now? Why are you doing this? Yeah she and Goliath. Have kind of a standoff. The other gargoyles are prepared to rip deluxe a new asshole. And he's like. Hey how about instead of attacking me. We just let these two guys have a little chat. I feel like they were running out of time here in the episode. They're like no more action. We gotTA stop. We ran out of fight budget. And there's that villainous monologue that lady Macbeth has and I'm gonNA play that here. Okay combine if your food but then you always were too. If you'd only taken the rest of our clan away from the castle that night. The plan was perfect it would have succeeded. What plan I made a bargain with captain. I was to get us all out of the castle. So that the Vikings could save it what it would have worked and after the humans were gone we would have had the castle all to ourselves but you ruined it. You had to protect the humans. You made a stay at the castle when we should have been with you when the Vikings attacked the captain said he'd protect us but I didn't trust him. I've stayed alive because I trust anyone. But why did you do it? You can ask me that. After how they treated us they had to pay all humanity has to pay what they did to Al Kind. This is a pretty heavy scene. She dropped some big news. Yeah she hates. Everybody hates all the humans she wants to wipe them out and create a world for her kind leashes to kill her logic. Her logic makes no sense. I still don't understand what El Capitan was trying to do right. So he wanted to the castle for himself he was trying to get rid of. Is that all it was no. He's just really tight with gargoyles. Who's like all this hanging out? We're tight we're cool. Let's be friends. Fuck all the other humans meat. I like this. I like this plan so you but I like your plan. So does she no matter white year it is? She finds a stupid male human to be like even plan. I'll be part of this. I guess so. I'll capitan is like deluxe nail except Alexa pilots. More power but I guess a thousand years ago. If her plan had succeeded it would have been a lot easier to go round killing all the humans and there would have been more gargoyles to do it. But now don't understand doesn't really make any sense. My my notes continue to be shouting about deluxe and what he gets out of all this saying that from the beginning of this episode and even before so at this point we're near the end of episode five foreclosing closing out the awakening. Liz We finally get to hear lady MIC Gargoyles name which is shorter than lady mcharg oil. And I'm glad because I don't have to say it or type it anymore. I named to Goliath the humans gave it to me long ago. You should know it before you die. I am Mona. Humans. Give her nameless. Yes we finally get to call her by the name that we knew she had all along. She is Dimona now. So why did they give her name because she was the all haughty but like humans gave me a name to Goliaths? They probably gave all you assholes names like you're telling me that someone gave Goliath name. Someone gave Dimona a name and they're like envy authors and the pro coil. What's also how did he not know her name? Does she get a name after they were stone? Lake Shoe survived right like she was able like. She wasn't stone defied so like she says she was. And it's believable. She says she was cursed. By the MAGA's the same way that goliaths decided to be cursed by the mega is to like. She went to him and was like. Hey just you know. But she's also a liar so who the fuck knows what she's been doing the past thousand years right when she got that name. You're right that's a good question that I never considered because if it were at the same time that he got Goliath like why wouldn't they call her Dimona to his face? Yeah yes you can call me Dimona but other gargoyles around maybe they just called her. Dimona bonaly tour phase but like lose fucking Damone over here. T think I'm sure it's a playoff like demon bs. Something Lady Demon she as a level demon. Oh my so. We're getting wrapped up in the minutia. Here we're almost finished. After Dimona says her name Dream Boat finally shows up these elevators. They're not super speedy now. She is been writing elevator in real time. She just decided to run up the stairs instead. Yeah she took the stairs. Five hundred floors another rocket is fired and it takes out the castle as we've already mentioned deluxe must have obtained that live on the property like ten floors of the skyscraper are devoted to housing his masons. That's why it's so big. He's got a house all of his Mason. This rocket explosion. Yes knocks deluxe. The fuck out good but it also makes Dimona and dream boat get near the edge and start tumbling and Goliath has to make the choice. Do I save the human girl who I love or do I save Damone? I guess her name is who I thought I loved but apparently has been after me this whole any extreme vote. Well here's what I would say to that. Liz Dimona has wings yes. She can't help herself and she's fine but also dream is used to it. This is the second time she just likes tumbling off buildings from the stratosphere down to the earth below like she's over she's like. This isn't even exciting anymore. It's fine obviously as you said. He Saves Dream Boat Setzer Down Safely. And then he goes to throw deluxe off the fucking. Yeah but don't talk him out of it and it's like if you do it then you're no better than Dimona or you know. They just won't be a plot anymore if he just through deluxe off the roof. All of the gargoyles problems would go away which it might be worth that killing. One human in cold blood and really. It's not in cold blood right. It's to protect also in retaliation for the shit that he's already pulled right. He tried to kill them. It's self defense. It's really not to say that deluxe does not deserve this shit. It would be a terrifying way to die guess cod yeah but instead Dream Boat. Just arrest okay. Not that that's going to do anything. Owns the police. You Know He Shirley. How else are they just like? Turning a blind eye to all this explosion battle. He's got the police in his pocket. He is this city. The episode ends with some comedy from the oils lighthearted way to in this pretty heavy episode. Brooklyn's sunglasses his sweet shades. Were broken in the fight. Broadway's hungry gliding dream boat. Make out and yeah that's it they don't make but they do make plans for another date. Which made me wonder? When does she ever sleep or work? Yeah she'd literally spent every night until sunrise with Goliath. Maybe she takes micro naps. Maybe you know five minutes here. Ten minutes there. She's trainer her body to run off of six hours of sleep total but in very small chunks. Maybe Goliath just energizes her. She doesn't have to work until nine. Thirty Sun comes up around this? Let's call it summertime around five thirty six o'clock and after he wears her ass out she goes home and goes right to sleep. Our just gets all comfy cozy for a couple of hours Liz. We've decided that This is just an adult rated podcast about. I think that's been clear. Since episode one YEAH WE ARE FOULED. But we made it to the end of the awakening. Five part the start of the show. Yeah I think we should take one more break. We'll finish her up. We'll say goodbye and we'll see what's happening next week. Cool Long. In Modern Day Bristol. Someone is copying one of the most infamous serial killers of all time. Jack The ripper. Only this time. The story is different. A woman survives and decides to get her revenge by taking the law into her own hands but in so doing she awakens a darkness deep insider if you like suspense Thrillers Man. Serial killers tune into Jane. The ripper and audio drama coming to Calamity Cast Dot Com Halloween Twenty nineteen. Welcome back everybody to defenders of the night. Where a once again. We have finished the five part opening to the gargoyles series the awakening Liz. Yes hell of a run right. This is a really interesting way to start the show. What did you think of this up? In specific I liked it. It was very action packed. you learn things? I'll just kept making me go well and like. I have so many questions and a good thing that means. I WANNA keep watching in hopes that these questions will be answered especially about the robots and the Mona. I'm glad we can call her by her name. Now yeah cheese it fell off the roof and I do think she survived The they leave that open ended by like wings. Obviously Juliet right leg. We've seen multiple other gargoyles fall off the roof like we know they're going to be fine. Fine did we call it on the robots or did we call it. You said it. Earlier on the episode robot related. We said it way. Early in the series deluxe is the bad guy. Yup We nailed these things and I gotta say it's not because I seen the series before because I didn't remember Shit right like some of this stuff wasn't coming back. Oh no the whole first episode came back to me but since then I'm like okay. I remember general things about this series as a whole but yeah I I'm not remembering these platforms at all for me for a lot of it's been like watching a new show. Yeah that's how little I remember. It's more of the kind of feelings that brings up in me like the. Yes fucking my childhood. Yes exactly yeah. What do you think David trying to do? I think that he's just trying to be an evil rich guy like despite what they've shown us. He has specific motivations other than to be bad guy with a lot of money. He can do this. He's doing it. Yeah he doesn't have any specific ideas or goals right now or if he does. They are not being broadcast to the viewer rain. Yeah just to be the biggest baddest richest tech guy. I don't know how about you. What do you got any? Yeah I think a lot of is just like the be the most powerful unstoppable. I'd like to know his backstory a little bit like I feel like most villains have some sort of reason why they are the way they are right. The best villains are the ones that are the heroes their stories so maybe he has motivations that we'll see more clearly as the series goes on. I hope so or it's going to be one note of character. Just will no. Yeah and he seems like there's so much room for gross fair that we're going to get a lot of his pesos or not. Because it's fucking children's cartoon rate that's the thing who knows. I know I mentioned this during the show itself. But what are they supposed to do now? They were literally just had attempted. Murder happened to them. David has shown his hand right early. Yeah little soon. They know he wants them. Dead and has these robots has plans for mass destruction. They know Dimona is not a good gargoyles cool. 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Episode 102: Pay A Man Enough And Hell Walk Barefoot Into Hell

Defenders Of The Night

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Episode 102: Pay A Man Enough And Hell Walk Barefoot Into Hell

"From we are defenders of the night the most trusted source for top to bottom coverage of everyone's favourite mid-nineties animated program Gargoyles. I'm your host circle and I'm your host Daniel Williams. Hello once again. Everybody it's happened. Were doing it. Thank you Disney plus Disney overlords. So today Liz. What are we doing? We are covering gargoyles season. One episode to awakening part to this awakening goes on for three more episodes. After this it's slow awakening yes. We're sleepy we don't want to get out of bed. We're hitting the snooze button to my every day now. We just found out right before research recording that they had released all five one day right after the other so Monday through Friday and we need to look into and see if it was always every day cartoon or after that if they want on a one a week schedule. I like transparency. Here you are admitting to are a large audience that we don't know what we're doing and haven't done enough research. I mean I appreciate the only episode. I have plenty of time for more research and we won't cut this. Well Liz can I tell you about this episode? Please awakening part two aired on October. Twenty Fifth Nineteen Ninety. Four is an excellent day. It was written by the same folks as last week. Eric Luke and Michael Reaves and it was directed by Here we go takemitsu Mora in Katsuo Terada. I think he knew that I feel like I nailed it. I'm an expert in all things. Gargoyles in gargoyles related. Even saying the word Gargoyles. I'm very good at so. Let's do it so we start episode two right where we ended episode one which is a pretty good place to start and one thousand nine hundred ninety four eighty nine ninety nine ninety four ad. Yeah so we see the Elias weeping over a pile of what he thinks is his lady. Love Lady mcharg oil and probably other gargoyles as well. I'm sure he's equally. Sad rarely not equally but pretty sad that like all of his people are dead. Meanwhile down on the ground detective Geriatric Jerry. Is He immediately hones? In on the fact that someone cut the archer's bow strings and it's weird that like he found that out lately he's only got one eye. He picked it up sabotage. Someone's cut the bow string sabotage. I knew that reference. Oh Wow these boys. They're beastie these are the you know what? Just keep rolling. Then we see the Braga oils come out of the rookery. Obviously they survived because they weren't around. Everyone was gained smashed. Which that's a good thing. And they're obviously quite distraught at the site of the aftermath and all the humans are gone. Yeah Kidnapping Yeah. They don't know what's happening. Goliath tells the crew. It's let's listen to it. Then we will find them. We will save the humans and we will have our events we cover to campaign on. The group goes in search of the Vikings and we beat them there. We see Viking revelry we see the beaten and broken Scottish refugees that were kind of piled into a camp in the previous episode. And we move over at a tinny. Tim's weeping mother. Why is she crying? You may ask well. We don't know yeah I mean I assume it's because they were taken captive but they were doing that while off to begin with him over it. You might actually be better under Viking rule. I I don't know maybe unless she's away from those Pesky Gargoyles. She hated hated so much. But the we baby boy is confident that his pals the Gargoyles will save them and I don't know why he thinks that because again they were all smashed right all the humans were there where they I couldn't remember if they would already captured and then start smashing or lose. I don't know I feel like the way I said it was right or I wouldn't have said it. You're near right. I'm right and that maybe I'm not right. Yeah from there we move into. Hey cons private hovel. Who Listen To my notes. I know he's in a cave a hand. He's chilling with El Capitan. Lady wavering and Mega Mega Mega. He was coming off as so suspicious. I turned out the El Capitan was the traitor. I was like bullshit. This guy over here with the white hair and Lin. Now I don't trust him I don't trust him either and with good reason is we'll find out in a little bit and Yep so the bad guys are deciding what to do next. And they're gonNA go with ransom. Which doesn't seem very viking. Like I assume the Vikings were more into like plunder and pillage and conquer and rape. But I WANNA know who gives a shit about the maggots enough to pay his ransom. I understand lady Whitbourne. Yes which we find out that she's actually the needs to the king which I didn't know I thought she was just like a random lady. She actually is in portage like she's the princess. Yeah they call her princess. But I don't know if that's actually how that works. Maybe she's next in line so she gets. I have no idea you're right. Because the princess it'd be the daughter to the king and her uncle King Right. Is Her uncle her father. Ooh intrigue roasts incestuous injury guerrillas. Don't you totally think that she in the magic man or fucking? I mean without a doubt. Now she takes what she wants and she wants what she gets. Wow yuck you know. This is a children's cartoon. So here's a question for you. You are our resident Viking expert. Apparently so perhaps you can answer this question for me. Shouldn't they have just taken over the castle? And then that was Viking territory. Now like that's the conquer you think like what what is the no yes. What is the point of doing all this work and then leaving the castle someone else who are just like? Oh look and empty gasol. Yeah take it right. Isn't that how that works? Like you just claim it and do. They not have a flag. You've got to plant the flag. So instead they take slaves or whatever they take all the plunder they're going to drag on that shit around with them they could just stayed it makes. No sense was could've just stayed and very confused in general what they're after. What their goal is I thought it was to take over the Castle. And then they leave booty of all kinds. The magazine makes an empty magic related threats and just laughs and his dopey Weiner face as he rips pages from the mega spell book. He's like Oh really. Oh boy what are you going to do your pages? I did actually laugh pretty hard at this. Because he's just like ooh acute read if I could only I gotta say I mean he may bullying but his bullying was hot. Little which wieners can't get enough of it okay so the princess is pretty angry about the whole. El Capitan is a traitor situation. And I'm sorry. I don't mean to interrupt because I did. But do we ever get the captain's name? I don't know I don't think we do. The captain is El Capitan. You're all welcome. Please continue she vows to see him. Hang for what he's done. I mean he obviously did bad things. But you had in your notes and I had the same thought. Why did he do it right? We don't know what he gets out of this. It's not like Oh if you do this then I'll make you layered of the castle in because they leave the castle. Maybe he gets it afterwards. Maybe he's going to go back after this is all done. We don't know because the neither the first nor second episode actually explains it at all any point. It's very frustrating. He's a traitor because he is. Yeah I definitely wouldn't otherwise and maybe we are looking into this deeper than it was meant to be looked at by. That's why we're here. Why here suddenly raw ours was a very good gargling. Yeah we got the gargoyles showing up finally and hey cons lake men. You said they wouldn't follow us. And Okapi Tani says back. I told you not to smash them all. They wouldn't follow us if you left them alone. I think that's true. I think the gargoyles with no Goliath on merely be like gotta go save the humans because he does anyway even these humans just fucking killed his people to your. Tell me about it. I am so surprised that Goliath is like we gotta go rescue the humans like those people get your revenge and lead those shit dicks and the dust anyway so he pulls out a knife on the princess and she is able to make a break for it she here. She's a fast little thing. And then we go out of the cave and we see some gargoyles and Viking attacks. Yeah it's mayhem. It seems very similar to the last episode. Just the punch in the flying around. It's all it seems like. They just took frames that he took shots. And this reused them. We get more oversize. Hey Carts Fat Goyal beating the shit out of the fucking Turkey Lake again. Does he have like a bandolier with Turkey legs? What is happening here? And he did pull it off off. He pulled it off of a spit but it was. It was in the shape of Turkey a ham leg. Was it a ham bone? Yeah actually had the nose like. Oh look something. That's not Turkey. Oh well I mean it looked. It was meat ball of meat on the bone and for math. It's Turkey probably. He could have been ham bone. I Dunno never seen a bone in ham. We're a vegetarian. Household will use Jewish Vegetarian household. So he would definitely not happening. Dog Oil shows up from the shadows. Rinse Repeat Yup. I need something new in my fights. Look at their. This is it. This is the end of the battle. Pretty much yeah. So the GARGOYLES. Save the day. A Little Timmy's all happy and we can rejoice and Blah Blah Blah very briefly. We're all happy again. Mattis comes out. He's all upset because he assumes that the princess is dead which like again but also maybe if your girl some I don't know how she's dead. He's just making wild assumption. I mean I guess if you're like Oh that big bad. Viking has a knife to her. Obviously she's done so but she immediately gets away. He's crying only listen to this clip at him. Just boohooing and thrown out spells ship. You food should be live now. If you hadn't come what's he talking about they were ransomed us both? But you played at that camp. And nows all this. Where's the princess could have? We'll the sword. I would send you all to join but this will have to do instead. Don't mean Ottis castillon super nervous. So after the magic with a K. That's magic the brogue oils are wrapped in this beautiful light. Show like they've been taking e all night instead of fighting and really they just spend to answering to techno music and then we cut. We don't even see what happens. We don't get to see that. Cool Shit we gotTA GO YUP and we're back to the cliffs foreboding so we see not at all dead princess running for her. Goddamn life And you're right that In your notes you said you respect woman who can run in heels very difficult and she's hauling ass and now we don't know she's in heels but she's a princess. I making some unfair assumptions. I know probably waiting flippers. Useless like little slippers. Well that's I mean I won't say justice hard because I have no idea but I've gotta assume it's a different kind of difficult run barefoot up a cliff. Yeah that's all painful. Yeah what the Hell. Anyway Goliath swoops in and he's all angry at the El Capitan. Because he thought he could trust him an Okapi Times piss poor. Excuse of it all was I told you to take them with you and Goliath is going to really wants to do some damage here. He's about to rip your tongue out to your butthole dude. See better come up with a better excuse in that shit. Yeah by the way Liz. That's when you put your arm up. Someone's but until you get to their mouths that's really possible and then you grab the tongue can yep yeah I. I didn't know if you're familiar with with that Interrogation method. This is when we see that being a bad dude never ever works out because hey con immediately betrays the captain saying he's smashed all the gargoyles even though he literally just said that he was trying to save them all but sending them with you. My argument makes a lot of sense. And then Kapitan and hake on the star fighting and tussling and rolling around and they roll right off the cliff into the ocean and Goliath but revenge. Angry that he wasn't the one who got to kill them. Yeah I feel what he should just kill us to make up for it. This is your fault but I'm angry. You called me a monster and this is the fall the death forever of El Capitan. We never ever see him again. I assume co host knows man I mean point being this is when we for lose all of the possible explanation as to why he was a traitor. Fine which is unsatisfying. Very unsatisfying Goliath unsatisfied. I'm unsatisfied Liz. I have to assume it's unsatisfied unsatisfied. Tim Tom runs to Goliath. Who's like we gotta go? Something's bad something happened. Come on guy we cut back to camp and as it turns out that was not a rave baller light show. All of the cotton gargoyles are back to stone in the middle of the magic man. Rears up to put goliaths into big stone sleep also and of course the princess appeared to be paying and she's like I'm alive and regimens like Oh fuck. I did a bad goliath. Listen Boy I made a new PC. Well can you fix your oopsy little magic man? Hey listen I don't WanNa make a big deal out of it but could you please not too much trouble. My friends alive again. I know you're tired. It's been a long night and magazines like double whoopsie actually. I don't have that page anymore. I can't the bird which of course like what the fuck like the guy when he's ripping out the pages just happened to go to this magic spell. Yeah and happened to rip that one. It's very convenient. This is all been a huge comedy of errors so there has to be a different way to undo it right. Magic man got a quick clip. That's all right. You tend to stone for the terms of the spell with they would sleep at. The castle rises above the clouds. I like the a spell has terms terms of service for this spell. Something something up above the clouds Elba castles once again above the cloud. Sure you know what a real wizard would have his ship. Memorize you think he's a pretender? He's just a baby weathered all right. Let's go back to castle. Wiron glide is putting his fellow Gargoyles back in the position at the castle. Right way up on the turrets you know like I don't know a hundred feet in the air. How is this possible? Liz I don't know I mean the show would have taken days right. You'd think and it's not like he can flap his wings and fly late he glide and they were like in a valley so he couldn't grab the stone and then glide a long distance he. He had to carry them the whole way. Just walk him. He's the only person who can do it. Maybe magic man had a magic spell to move. That'll fuck the mega trust. That guy. No so glaive. He carries them one by one over a period of weeks each statue all the way up the castle stairs all the way up to their respective turrets doesn't make any sense as a child. I guess I just assumed that this was all perfectly logical sure. Anyway I'm upset by this right. Goliath is moving furniture around magazines. Like oh God dude Bro. I am so so sorry. Like he got drunk and pissed on his rug or something. Yeah ooh Man I can. I pay for the clean I would he need. What do you need from me? I just want to make this right. Goliath asked the princess which she's GonNa do next. She's like I'm GONNA move in with my uncle because this is what royalty does like. I'm giving up on ruling my own territory. I am bad at this. So I'm just GONNA have the king do it. 'cause Suck Yeah. I mean she called these gargoyles and people dead. Yeah I mean okay. To be fair she does suck. But I didn't know you could just give up so goliaths then asks her for favor before she leaves you know regarding the eggs. Let's listen to a clip. This is ridiculous to the rookery will soon hatch. They will need guidance. Neither fear he will watch over them if they would our own. There is something you can do from. Maga's cost you spill one more time. So goliath dislike. Oh my friends are dead. I'm alone I could just wait a little bit to have new friends with these babies and instead he's like. Nah I'm not gonNA take care of the last living gargoyles in this area. Like what the Fuck Dude? Yeah who's GonNa teach the gargoyles how to be gargoyles? If they only living gargoyles decides not to be a living gargoyles anymore with the first little wiener human. I'm curious if there's other gargoyles at other Scottish castles could they go to those castles? That's a very interesting question. I'm going to assume absolutely not Research that cool. Yeah then he asks the biggest to cast that same spell onto him so he can be a stone with all his friends. This is a ridiculous response to a tragedy. I'M GONNA go be stoned forever. Fuck all other possible gargoyles. I don't want to rebuild my clan. I don't want to have anything to do with you. He's like I'm not going to be alive anymore. It's like this part is sad. It's a rational. He gave up real fast. He's really did. Which doesn't seem like Goliath. I guess too in his brain. He's being loyal to his friends. Maybe I don't know. But what about the rest of the Gargoyles who are going to hatch? This upsets me and I need to take a break. We need to go to a break. I need to go outside and get some fresh air. Okay now thanks for listening. Help others find our show by rating and reviewing on I tunes checkout calamity cast dot com for even more content and follow us on facebook twitter and instagram. To get in touch and let us know how we're doing. Welcome back everyone to defenders of the night. The I'm assuming one and only gargoyles podcast. I refuse to do any research on that. We are still at Wesel Whitbourne. Because that's what I put in my notes but it seems as though we've time traveled. Yes a thousand years in fact one thousand years. It's weird that they chose nineteen ninety four. I mean isn't that the Eric came ass. Liz God but I will say it took me longer than I'd like to admit that I was like why ninety four because that's a thousand years before the date that means that everything we see going forward. Well everything we saw. When we originally watched it happened in real time. Obviously so we get our first look at David Zanna. Tos and his majestic ponytail blowing in the wind. Like have you seen a more handsome ponytail. The rest of the man aside. We'll get to that. He's beautiful he's gorgeous. Mattel animated Pony Taylor real life ponytail. Don't know I mean I guess the answer for you is yes. You have seen a more majestic ponytail Jonah going. He has a better ponytail. Wow I hope he's listening. Santos is voiced by the incomparable. Jonathan legs swoop frakes. You know Johnny frakes right. You are of course intimately familiar with Jonathan frakes and all of his yeah beard. No beard old young you know him. Top to bottom up and down. Liz let the people know who John frakes is. I have no idea how. Wow this is embarrassing. Well this is episode. Two of our casts within a cast where we talk about. Everyone's favorite show that Liz has never seen star trek the next generation check exactly how the theme song went. So who is he in that as everyone? But you know yes. Jonathan frakes Played William T. Reicher captain Gianluca. Cards Number One He is a well known actor and director. Okay and if you'd like I can list you some of the things that he has formed the in slash directed so most recently John Frakes Zain Star. Trek Picard the same guy willing to record and I have not started watching that show yet. I think I might. He also voiced Jason in Guardians of the Galaxy. Jason Jason J. Apostrophe S. O. N. o. The Alien Dude. He is an alien dude. He is a Mandar Lords Dad in the comic books really in the cartoon voiced old Finn in adventure time man. There's a lot of adventure time people in the show. Yeah well there's a lot of star trek people in adventure time. He was in a really good episode of criminal minds. I don't know if you ever saw any that. God damnit Liz. I swear I watch. Things are just different things than you. Apparently did you ever watch Roswell No? I think that came out. Like I was young while he played himself. So He's a busy guy he is pretty well regarded director. And he's a famous star trek fellow. Okay so we find out that David Santos is going to buy the castle and he gets his Man Servant Owen on the mobile phone and Which one when I was a kid. Yeah we had one for like hardcore emergencies. He wants to put an offer on the castle. The bed Owen seems concerned that it's going to be difficult to find people to handle the weird job because people think the castle is haunted. But Liz I ask you this. Wouldn't they want to get this fucking castle out of here like Oh you want us to get rid of the haunted castle. No problem with doing. Yeah you would think but maybe like because we find out in like a second after that that they want to disassemble a castle Liz. You're our resident ancient Scottish architecture. Expert right is this even possible. You know I don't feel like it would make a lot of sense because the castle's already kind of crumbling at least a thousand years old way more than that and it already seems a little bit in disarray between all the battles that happened before the gargoyles were killed and then over the course of the next Thousand Years Lake. Sure you can take apart a broken castle but it's still going to be a broken castle. I mean do they take it apart brick by brick? I mean we see them. Fly huge sections off via helicopter. How are they going with this captors? Strong enough for the hats. This helicopter we see took. An entire turrets started flying it across the water or are they going to ship. I have to assume yes. I'm going to guess. No I'm going to guess that. This cartoon universe has a single helicopter flying huge portion of a castle back because we learned that they're going to New York City New York City but one thing I didn't make note of when they're taking apart everything that Weird Robot Guy. I missed it. Oh he like had like iron man like Sudan and so he was carrying blocks but as a man but was in this robots Ripley from aliens. Yeah we all know. It's going to be very mad at you. He knows scary. Things in space jam in isn't in space at least one of them. Yes Okay Yes not my gym. It just doesn't appeal to me. You know what that's fine. Yeah that's okay because you have gargoyles gargoyles so we see them transporting the castle and were in New York now. Hey they're twin tower. Everything's fine. It's an eight hundred nine hundred cross fade to this impossibly. Tall skyscraper is got to be the tallest building in the world at this point. Why I mean it's headquarters. But what the fuck is he doing in there that he needs all those floors? I assume that it's mostly just like ball pits. She's like a big empty space. That like and just awesome. Ball pits right. That seems like fun. You know they say if you have a big giant truck it's to make up for your lack of Dick. Do the feeling targeted truck is huge. And you know that. Do you think he's compensating for something with his giant tower? Yes he seems like the type who would I mean what the hell else could you do with? I'm assuming five hundred floors yeah. This is not normal for skyscraper to actually be scraping the sky right like they're up in the clouds above the clouds. Which is why the spell is broken? We see when the sun goes down. They are literally above the clouds. So this building has Tana visit is okay. Didn't they? Put a fucking castle on top of it? Big Castle lists yes. Okay beginning to think that. The premise of the show is more than a little far fetched. Okay the Stone Gargoyles. That come alive at note didn't do it for you. I was fine with that because magic is real sure. Shishir expels a real giant buildings with councils on top. Never seen it and you don't think Israel so did you stand on top of this fucking castle at the top of this castle word. Goliath is you know. He's at the tallest point of the cast. Yeah because which point is touching the stratosphere I wouldn't be able to breathe up there. Yes it's probably freezing. Oh yeah with Harry's whipping around ponytails going. He whips his hair back and for the sun goes down and David has year show me that big and then glides starts glowing And then we get another sexy room David like that right. There is why I did this. I wanted to hear that sixty. Did you notice a music? During this part was awesome it was it was appropriately episodes. Where in my notes? I literally just wrote. Oh Hi Goliath. Broken stone because he does like holy chest Ford roar thing his arms out like it was very do swallows Fox. Fook what was all of the Brogue oils Jerry and dog oil they wake up and ZANU TOS quietly says excellent. Just the faintest whisper of excitement so my question to you is how the hell did. None of these gargoyles get smashed through the years. You go to old ruins and things like oh. There's part of statue layer or different things like that. How did the Gargoyles stay intact? Did you think the magic protected them was? I'M GONNA say no I'm going to say it's because everyone in that area thought that the castle was haunted. Stayed Away stayed away that would make people want to go there more. Or perhaps the castles protected by other gargoyles because there's an entire generation that we see goliath leave but you have to assume that were raised male and female gargoyles. They did what Gargoyles do which is fuck a lot and made more babies. That's true some are gargoyles. But here's the thing about generations in population to have any population thrive. You need something like I think. Five thousand people that makes sense because otherwise the gene pool is going to get real weird exactly and you just have like the royals point. Being gargoyles are flying around with like extra arms deficient wing things. Maybe after they all died out yeah sorry to bringing everyone down oil. Dna doesn't work the same as human DNA. Maybe maybe -ceptable to you know. Get frisky with your cousin. We can only hope for their sake. Wow Okay so. They're all confused. Obviously happy but they're confused and Goliath is like where are we and my thought was dude. Shouldn't you be asking when are we? Obviously this is not in your time and you know. He doesn't. How does he know all he knows? Is that the spells broke. Look the they're looking over the vast. New York's guy this view that you're talking about is not nearly high enough like when the clouds part and we see the skyline. Yeah I feel like the next. Tallest building should be. Looked like a fucking Lego. Apparently New York's a way bigger than I ever thought. I mean we're we're so high up. Yeah anyway so. I'm sorry I'm just I'm off the real David's like all right. Come with me come inside on best friends. Let's go in there and then we go inside to the castle. Glad wants to know how long they've been asleep. Yes a really funny exchange occurs here. I don't know if you really noticed it the note that was just like Oh my God like his surprised face. Santos says this might come as a shock. But it's been a thousand years since the spell was cast so all the Gargoyles they're like. Oh crazy dumbfounded. Top to bottom all the way down and we get a little exposition as to what the. Fuck David Santos is doing here man. Let's play this clip or he tries to Figley explain. It's IT'S A. It doesn't work very well for me. Break to spare. It was designed to end when the castle rose above the clouds the eggs in the rookery gone. I'm afraid be with the last of your kind. Why have you done all this? I was fascinated by the mega story. I wanted to see if it was true and now that I know it is. I want to be your friend. There is much we can do for each other. Goliath Susannah toews has the magazines book. But it's not his spell book. It's a book that many think. That's the same book. No because he says he wrote a book detailing everything that happened with the gargoyles explaining the smell and like what needs to happen in order to break the spell and all that he footnotes in the spell book maybe he made it sound like they wrote a new book or he wrote a New Book and He'd found that book he found this book. Read it news like oh. That sounds cool. Then bought an entire fucking Scottish castle had it shipped brick by brick back to New York. City reassembled the top of a skyscraper. All because he wanted to see if the curse was real. He's like that's interesting. I know what I need to do. Fucking rich people man. That's the fucking one percent. Shall we take a break okay? We'll be right back home new after tragedy strikes Lusa truly nicer to come back with furor. Group unites so Don't tell me what up man to celebrate the life of a friend until some thing happens. Now they're struggling to survive in a world. They don't understand group as they failed through. Time and space in an epic podcast from the calamity cast network. I drop it is Subscribe to it beginner's guide to interplanetary destruction. That's what I'm calling my penis as eight seconds ago and we are back so we're back in the castle and David is about to make new best as obviously he's like I wanna be your pal man. Let's hang out. Let's play Racquet Ball. Let's go to the movies so enthusiastic. There's a bowling alley in that building. There's like a dozen bowling alleys. Probably so you know they're hanging out and S'mores Horn and then we hear some unexpected commotion on the roof. What zanny pants forgot about the gun toting astles that we're about to show up? He's like no what's that I forgot. I was having guests over. Yeah so he's fighting along with the gargoyles. Yeah but part of me. The whole time is like did he. Planned List was just supposed to be happening or is this a surprise for everybody seems fake. Yeah there's something weird happening what if the gargoyles curse was fake and then this guy showed up started shooting shit and he's like didn't work out. It didn't work out. Yeah it might not kept referring to them as the Robo cop looking people. Yeah they were just helmet guys to me. What what do they want? What are they doing here? So they're fighting. The fight keeps happening. This fucking castle was just finished and then immediately starts being torn apart. Yeah I would be so pissed if I was these gargoyles. Yeah like to them. They don't feel like Oh David anything. But they're like took the castle what we do. It's kind of our thing and we have nowhere to go. Yeah so they're fighting and fighting and it's a pretty good fight scene it is good. It's much better than the first fight scene earlier in the show. Lasers there's grenades guns and shit and it's fucking chits blown up and it's mayhem so there's a gas grenade happens and my immediate reaction was okay. Sold the GARGOYLES are coughing up along because of this mask dudes mask only go to their is their face with all kinds of open nuts nuts. Everything's fine now because they were just like. Don't breath white. Weren't they struggling? But the GARGOYLES are. That's a good question in. Can I ask you a question? Yes So David. Zanex by runs to a hidden compartment in the stone right he pushes a secret button or he'd hit a future gun and then proceeds destroy his own castle that he just bought so my question is in two parts. How did he have that set up? And why is he blowing up and destroying his own castle? I GUESS IN HIS BRAIN. He's attacking the bad guys shredding his own place got it set up no. I made about the stone to what in when and how long he just like. Oh you know what I might need a laser gun. Perhaps I should hide it here on. The roof might need a gun on the roof. That's what I was like. Okay this is a little suspicious. That's really when I was like what what is happening. Also is he's supposed to be Tony. Stark like what? The fuck is this. I think so. I think he is supposed to be like Tony Stark kind of character. I remember later on and I think the first season he builds himself like a robot gargoyles suit so he's totally. Disney's Tony Stark before they had more before. Disney Tony Stark. Yeah I think he's like a genius. Tech BILLIONAIRE CANNOT GUY centric. Yeah doesn't know what to do with all his billions castle on skyscraper. He is eccentric. He's probably Just in case gargoyles might be real. He's like yes. Let's see plus you know. He's a playboy He's fucking top to bottom up and down up and down side to side. It's the skyscraper business gummy saying top to bottom a lot. Filling is so anyway so the fight happens And the the laser people are like laser people. There got it got it. We're good and they scurry off to their helicopters. What what the fuck is that? You know just a silver briefcase and David doesn't seem too concerned no and this is also when we see all the shit starts like we cut down to the ground level and we see what we saw at the beginning of last week's episode Mimi weirdly angry like couldn't you have given her different lines like it was literally all the same stuff. Oh yeah they just cut it directly from episode one. Couldn't we be seeing a different aspect of the? Yeah you're right dammit. Dammit lizzy right I am. I even think of that. Amna mad like okay. We're finally getting to see our detective grin and she's high and she just didn't even get to go back into the studio and do more lines okay. We'll just look cosmo. Now that's true. These guys the helmet guys get the case like you said. Destroy some of this fucking brand new castle that David just had installed and during this kind of Malay goals with falls off the castle and he just starts plummeting towards like he forgot that he has wings that will glide him to save luckily catches a flagpole then he has to climb he climbs back up. We need to get Iraq down to detectives. She like Claw marks stone. Yeah you're right and then we're back on the roof. We just we needed to connect what's going on up on the top of the building with what's going on the ground level but it just feels like I mean you said they didn't record any lines. Maybe they just needed to fill some time so they added that in. Maybe I mean maybe it was intentional and they like the top to bottom. That's really stuck in my brain but the interesting thing to me is you're seeing all the explosion happening from the ground up in the clouds so fucking far away but it looks like just weird lightning and thunder like it. Looks like a storm thinking what we'll do that but also with the Fokker these weapons that like yeah well if the lasers laser cannon that he pulled out of the walking David I feel like he escalated way higher than it would have been. Yeah I would agree with that one hundred percent. He took it way too far. But if our theory is right this is all stage. Yeah then he. He had in his mind like an escalation of things. They'RE GONNA attack. I Inter stage right. I pull my laser jet from the wall. They fly off with empty briefcase. You know a House Lights. Come UP. We all out. Yep he cannot be trusted already. Feel like and it's not like I haven't seen or anything like that but I actually do not remember what his story arc is anymore either. I remember he's got a Robo suit and I remember there's a weird antagonistic aspect but they can stay with the castle but he has the castle. Like hey isn't that it almost becomes like lex luther thing where it's like. I'm a bad guy but I can maybe be turned into a good guy when it's convenient for me right. I guess we'll just have to keep watching and find out as we said helmet guys get the briefcase and our guys. They lost the fight right. It's not fair now. What do you think would happen if they had one? Yeah you would think that leads would just keep coming back and that would become a big plotline right like I don't like they have to maybe retrieve using this what we're GonNa do an episode three. We're going to get the suitcase back. Maybe I don't know I mean. We got a little bit more episode Harrison. Why don't we speculate deluxe pulls out his really awesome cell phone then? We brought up earlier. Who THE FUCK IS DELUXE? That's that's where I got in my notes. I was like Whoa. What brain leap did we do? Here David Santos is deluxe. I Y de for David EXE present. It does and if you decide to go with his follow my my thought process here. We go with his initials. Dx Woody picture what were you picture when you just see the two letters deacs DAX decks. Abc KS X. of course I mean what word is that boy all right. Well I thought it would be on the same page nor really I get. Your name does in. My notes is deluxe. Now deal with okay deluxe pulls out cell phone dials. Only two numbers get someone on speed. Dial all right okay. You'd have to sue explained it. It makes sense to me. I follow that logic. I accept. Oh in a character. I can already tell. I'm GONNA hate whiny pits. Boy Isn't he has. He's like Oh and I'm like those words. Shut the fuck up. If you're gonNA work for someone like deluxe. You think he'd be used to his weird shit by now. Yeah I think what's weird about Owen is that he has his own. Weird personality is very. He's got that kind of uh like I'm a man servant apparently wha- he should be he should be like a guy who rubs deluxe the wrong way you know. They compete like that accident really conveys. He'd be his friend. Snooty rich yes is frenemy. Yes exactly not as man boy man boy met nobody keeping man voice all right now. I'm GonNa wait some deluxe and Owen man. Boy Fanfare cannot wait to read it on my. Let's do it okay. So the point being in my rant aside Deluxe Owen start cleaning up the Goddamn mess. Goliath asks what the attack was all about and dogs. Like oh man. They really wanted the suitcase. I guess when when you are as rich and powerful as me you know these things to happen. I guess obviously go live with does not trust him. I don't trust him either but regardless he's like boys let's stay yeah really isn't a whole lot of critical thinking brought on here to decide whether they should stay the castle or move on. I would say like really have some discussions about it. But they are here. They're like we gotta protect the castle. Fuck this guy. The causses what we got. That's all we have left all right. Sure fine. They're going to stay the not ever going to be friends with humans which seems kind of foreboding here like we're never going to trust humans again. We're that we've been showing you this detective lady down on the ground. Those things don't have anything to do with each other. We don't trust you Liz. We're about to finish up the episode. Here that's the end. They're never going to trust humans again but final point here did you notice how touchy Annatto says like Hansie. His his touch and chess. I mean granted. Goliath has got a great chess. So you're like. Oh Hey but you know. But he's like patent shoulders shake hands and not just a handshake but like hand over. Hand is really get in. There is like I think we can be friends just softly. Rubbing goliaths hand stroking his hair. I don't know if you saw. He kinda grabs his ear lobe. Little just gives a little between the forefinger and thumb is like we're gonNA be best friends. They whisper into his ear. I WANNA prove to you. They can trust me. Sweet is a too early for me to say I love you because I do who so much. I paid seven million dollars to have your stupid castle brought to New York City. You don't understand what that means but it's a lot of money I to me because I'm very rich but hey that's the end of the episode so as we're GonNa take one more quick break we're gonNA come back and we're GONNA finish up into one hundred zero and a fantastic leading lady to be brought to live with love and loss of caste indulge in a radio drama. Fill to the brim with romance laughs. And all those wonderfully awkward moments to come with a new relationship and don't forget those delicious sexy parts that make romance novels ozone season. One of eleven left is available now. Calamity cast dot com or anywhere that you can find podcast. And where Bag Liz? We just finished episode two of Gargoyles Awakening Heart too. Did you like this episode for the most part. Yeah I think the street stuff was pretty lazy. I don't they could have done a lot more with that. Give us a little more insight into detective. Maza I agree and the beginning not getting full information of El Capitan and things like that. That's frustrating but overall yes quite enjoyed it. I'm looking forward to when we get to finish up awakening part five. Maybe we'll look back at these five episodes and see like Oh this cohesively. This is actually a really good story. Yes it's tough because in twenty two minutes. You really aren't getting a whole lot. But I guess the introduction to the Gargoyles has a story and as characters is going to be one hundred minutes so that's not too bad. Yeah it's like a movie that they've broken up into five parts and I think that there is a lot of back story to this show. I think it makes sense that they're sprinkling all of this stuff in there as quickly as they can. But I just want more and we already discussed but do you think the rooftop fight was staged. I mean we kind of hinted to how I felt torn at this could release. I would not be surprised at all if it were stage right. But just because of him him being like some people or whatever and That's where he keeps his baby teeth in a locked up briefcase in security. He has one briefcase. It's full of just uncut diamonds next to it. He keeps the baby teeth and I think they took their online. So Jerry is still out right now. I'm leaning towards staged. I think I'm GonNa go with that. Do you think it's a mistake that I haven't discussed the actors that are voicing me other gargoyles because I feel like maybe yes but here. We are not doing it again. I think so far. Haven't done a whole lot of talking. Yeah it's been little things here and there like we just call each other friends. You know I think the next few episodes As they are figuring out the castle full new situation. Like he's not GonNa be the Goliath show new or it's going to be all of them together so I think we'll get a little bit more of them talking and their personalities and all that and then we can dive into. Who's thinking behind? It was that when they got names. Exactly I would go into saying the green one in the Burgh oils are fans the royals listeners. Of this show let us know. Are you okay with being our broil? You could be our our gals royals either or both. Come up with a non gendered one GAR PALS car. Everybody's our oil. What it is. Gender is our friends and our our listeners or all pal oils awesome. We totally make merchants as Powell fucking merchant general. You WanNa wear underwear this powder oil on it. Hi will make make that happen. Liz How do you feel about David Santos and his ponytail? Dreamy or double dreaming? You know. Honestly he never do it for me. Is it the attitude because the voice really gets but I have an attachment to the voice? No his voices fantastic. I really like his boys and I even like the smirke stuff up Alpha asshole. I mean I read that. The mayor has denied boy. The confused and just betrayed look under faith pal. Oils you tone. No but it was too light not. That's the joke. Yeah Anyway in Romance Novels That's a very stereotypical leading male character for the billionaire type books and I enjoyed them. I don't know why would you want David. If you have wires all my God I just put those two things together. He's Christ then this one David Guy. Wow we are slow on the draw lives. Slow on the DRAW POWDER OILS. Just ignore has. No don't it's really Oh boy. He took us so long. And listen if you hadn't said those names together our notes don't say anything about it. I didn't put it together nicknames. Everywhere that's true. I am very confusing in my final question is what do you think? 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Episode 131 Gargoyles

The Moratorium

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Episode 131 Gargoyles

"Hey Phil free. It's Tim from the moratorium just here to remind you that if you enjoy what you hear please like Shirin subscribe, then rinse and repeat we're just a couple of small town nerds trying to make sweet geek love to your ear holes and we can use your support. Check out our website for movie reviews, links to social media, merch movies, and more. You can find us at the moratorium dot Com. Now, that's out of the way on with the Shenanigans. Welcome to the moratorium I'm your host Tim Cornerman. Each week I will be joined by some esteemed and I use that term loosely movie watchers and breaking down some of the weirdest strangest films to ever not necessarily grace the big screen. These are the deep dive auditees backroom bootlegs that appeal only to the die hard film fans. So sit back and enjoy the ride into the dark vault of the movie moratorium. S. I've listened to just my tracking now it's just me. Responding to questions that no one is asking weird. Really. Weird. Ed. It's like better some yeah. I understood. Better. I understood the movie better. That's it. I tried to talk about everything but the movie yeah. That's should be the name of our podcast everything but the movie. Yeah. Dame sometimes. Sometimes. It's you know we get off track a little Yeah. I think we're getting better though about the like talking over each other thing I feel like I do it a lot and. I'm really trying to just sometimes you know you just got Scott Shut your gap for a little while. But you know then crims the creative editing. Each Other. Is Are. You don't do much editing. It's very much. What we say is what's put out there in the world that would be incredible. Somewhere. There's just little deleted chunks of me going Making noises because I can't seem to. Not Make noises. I wonder if I compare him back to back as many times as we say just to see how long while. would. It would go for days. Yeah. It would end and madness. As. Every one of our podcasts seems to do guess true especially the ones that stretch on for a while I'd like to think that we're getting smarter but really I think you pointed out the other day that Yeah you know we're pushing out the good information and low Yap shit like. Who the fuck is Jim Connell you know, right If we ever get on jeopardy and there is A. You Know Alan Fudge category than we can just all take fudge for five hundred and yet. I love a five hundred. That's his memoir I am the fudge. Alan please guide us. Like our patron saint. Can we get him at a medallion I could wear it around my neck and remember kids he your fudge. So. Much. But we need something to protect ourselves from these pesky frigging. GARGOYLES YEP They're spawns of Satan I think I found out today. I didn't really do a lot of research when I walked this the first time in the I guess I just realized that it's actually there in the Old Testament and I mean, it actually does say Gargoyles I think But maybe we should just get into it and what do you say? Yeah, we'll. We'll. We'll uncover things as we go. All right. Well, welcome to the moratorium. Yeah. Welcome. Your host Tim Mun. And with me as always is my cost August co-host. ME. Jason Walker. Feel. Like one of these days we're GONNA nail that opening but NOPE, not today. nope. Not Today my friend. I create edit so it makes it sound even worse. I'm Oh. Cool. I can just crunch it altogether. So it's like we're both saying the same thing with Dr Different voices, but at the exact same time harmonising is that what she did Manila. May May. I. Might be talking like this for the rest of the pied gas. Nick Nolte you know there's a ton of distortion when the GARGOYLES speak yes. It's probably going to have to stop and talk about that for a while not what I remember them sounding like so much. I mean. Now that I know you know kind of like what type of technology they were using to give them their voices but I, did not remember them sounding like. How would you even I don't know how to describe it. It's almost like a sci fi it sounds like something from doctor who it's like somebody was speaking through r two D two's asshole. Yes exactly using R. Two D. Two as like a gravity bong or something in the were just like a talk. They kind of sound like doll lex a little bit if you really. Okay it's like, okay guys. We have this one effect that we can do and we're just GONNA. That's what we're going to stick with. That's it which seventy, two I mean. I don't think I realized how old this movie, right? This was the year I was born. I would like to think that I hold up better than this movie but like to. Light the thing that. I don't even know how we would go about scoring you on. We're going to have to at the very sophisticated test to see if. That so that's what we're. GonNa. Do. Where you and I are going to put a kind of test together. That will see if you or the nineteen seventy two TV movie gargoyles. Which of the two has aged better right. So the rubber suits they're wearing is. Very Similar to the skin I have on my body so I mean lathering A. Thick leathery kind of bunches up two points Yeah It almost doesn't have a lot I mean. Read it. To. ME. This is for my dvd after receiving word about mysterious skeleton unearthed in the Arizona Desert. A father and his daughter visit the man who has it and grabbed the skull as they escape shack, the Gargoyles have attacked. This is the most complicated. That was all. I guess that kind of explains it. Okay. So as they escape once they do. So they as well as the town are besieged by colony of gargoyles living in some nearby caverns, the town that's a loose I think is the town I mean there are four things in this town. willies frigging little Curio shop alkyl Willett Museum. Oh. God. I think it's funny that guy that plays Willie Woody Chambliss. Yeah. His name is woody in like the character name is woody in like a bunch of these. You know because he was an amount of like westerns. Nets Willie for this. I quite she just call him uncle woody. I don't know how would have caused so much confused their source material is named Willy and they just didn't want is such a beloved character that they didn't want to change. It just seems like it's only a couple of letters off and it probably would have helped him because he doesn't seem well in this moving. Dow, I was just reading in the Trivia here just a little bit ago that. Woody Chambliss Uncle Willie he's two years younger than corn wildness. Wow. Because he looks like he could be a wildest father probably. Yes. His the dictionary definition of grizzled. So father daughter taken off to the desert to just kind of poke around the opening scene. What is he picking her up at the airport or something? Yeah. I. Guess she has like a personal jet. No. Maybe, we should just start from the very beginning because the all the stuff you know the narration of the beginning. Kind of explaining what gargoyles are I I, guess they're explaining what Gargoyles are. Gargoyles are fictional creatures. Well they were. A minute so you're saying that. was once the most. Of playing it right in the middle of it but anyway, that narration it does set you up. And it looks really cool. I. Mean I love these. There's nothing more like seventy s than this kind of introduction but he's saying basically that everybody knows we have gargoyles and it was just a matter of time before they started attacking that I listened to that right? Sure. Sure and who was it? That had the opening I I saw earlier. and. It was like is somebody I'm sure it somebody maybe it's John Larroquette again. That would be awesome. Got So. Lost already. So this aired on TV in like November, of Nineteen seventy-two. Halloween movie it wasn't I talked to todd about a friend of ours todd briefly about it because I remember watching it as a kid on TV and you know it came out a few years before I was born. So I was like, when would I have been in? Was Old enough to enjoy you know you know Kinda racking my brain trying. To think of these like 'cause I knew it had to be on like an old like creature feature late at night or or Sunday afternoon when they used to play like Godzilla movies and stuff and todd says, no, I, know exactly what I saw it was from I. saw it on the plenty scary movie on channel as that it was on ABC. So, go that and just listened to the opening music and stuff when I was a I was like Oh. Yeah that that's exactly where I heard or for I watched the first time awesome and remember being freaked out and at the same time just like loving it you know the only thing I really remember from my childhood from this film is the gargoyles being hit by what I thought was their car but noah was a semi I thought the exact same thing I thought they hit it but no, he's just like road kill. He's not paying attention to the now. Do they explain that why is he just out was? He'd going for a jog or something. Yeah. Yeah. That's what it was. Associates Vic Perrin was he the Vic Perrin? I think he's the narrator and Vic Perrin actually played a voice of A. Yeah while he's in there just. But he did all sorts of voices for all of our cartoons back in the day I mean he? Yeah he has a very distinctive voice. We're talking Scooby Doo Dragnet Superman, aquaman our. Oh right space ghost. This has to be all voice work, but it says he was in watchmen mission impossible. Oh, I see. Yeah. Watchmen was for the soundtrack I see and mission impossible is the TV show from sixty six I've got a little confusing he died in eighty nine so. But we probably heard his voice I don't know a billion times. That's crazy. So very interesting we'll have to look at him some more. Let's let our audience know that you can watch this for free on. I'm actually on shout factory tv.com. As exactly where I saw Tim McKay and they have all the all the a lot of the old MST's if you just suck up on over to get done with this. So I, love this fond. Yeah. The gargoyles falling gooey drippy font. Like slime kind of. Dig. Equal. Is the epitome of like seventies movie like Cornell Wilde Shirt I would kill for his like it looks uncomfortable actually to be like walking around in the desert, but it was the seventies everything was made out of polyester and what other flammable materials people wanted to. Basically, guys back then were just a Molotov cocktail that hadn't been lit yet. How close would go right up the stuff in their hair aftershave like high karate. And they all smoked. That's probably where like spontaneous combustion occurs just like a gold watch and a medallion and a pool of Greece. Oh, I was just looking at Grayson home she plays Mrs Parks. Yeah, she was only in her fifties when she was initiatives can looks a little bit older, Lisi. It was her idea to have a glass in her hand in through every. She's like, can I just bring this into the shot with 'cause? I'm not quite done with it. That's what. Everybody's drunk, we don't care. Because there is a scene later where she goes into the sheriff's Office opens up his desk steals a bottle of his booze to refill her glass. That is amazing WANNA. Live in this town. Seems like there's some just crazy shit going on. So let's get into a little bit We're at the Airport Cornell Wilde picking up his daughter Right Cornell Wilde and his daughter basically the two main characters. That's Jennifer Saul. She wears everything mid drift which you know. A fine. Would just happy that Cornell Wilde is not wearing the same. Thing. He shows up in the top from like the girl from Texas chainsaw massacre. SEE WHOLE BACK All of his malls. She brings him I. Guess I don't know where she brought it from. Him, a statue of a demon. And he what's the name of it? I. Had it earlier? Or something that sounds right. Yeah I think it's hang on a second Kalomo Dri. There we go. He's like, Hey, you brought Kalomo Dri. been looking for him. We've been waiting the party. I see you turned him into Bong. That would be awesome. He likes the head off of it and it was just a long. Like it had liquor under something. They're getting the car and he says Kalomo Dri will just about complete my collection of demons he's collecting Damon's he's got a demon collection yeah. I guess in the seventies you could have a demon collection. He's an author he wrote a book the basically talking about how demons were not real. Well, he's getting ready to find out that there are some demons and they're going to talk to him in a bizarre Li a formal manner through a kids like Synthesizer Old Senate? And maybe signed him up for the trial lamb Come you're waiting for it is that the only thing that you can think of that Bernie Casey in Bernie Casey is the main gargoyles and he I assume they picked him because he's like six foot four or something yeah, he is. He is six foot four. Let's just make this Gargle as big and imposing as we can. But he's like it is very strange thinking that he is under all that makeup like really Bernie Casey. You're right though I started thinking about it and I was trying to think of the thing that I would know him from. The. Most yeah and I think it's just in the mouth of madness and he's only in it for like five minutes until the crazy guy comes through the window nosy and it would have been revenge of the nerds all the way for me I will. Yeah, I'm sorry. Yes. Of course, have closed revenge of the NERDS. So Gargoyles Bill Norton directed it kind of looked at him his stuff for a little bit nothing too exciting except he's down as the writer for convoy. Yes. You knew I was going to bring this up. Yes I was hoping you were GonNa Bring it out I love that movie. he didn't direct it but he he wrote it and I had to look at convoy. We're going to look at it here in just a minute to. A lot more talk about Oh, about convoy maybe not necessarily okay by itself again, because this could easily turn into a convoy podcast and I've just slide right into. The lateral move. Yeah. Maybe not even maybe a kind of step down but still needs to be discussed. He also directed baby the secret of the lost legend my God. Yeah, I saw this at the theater. Wow Rag. I saw it on a endless loop on HBO in the. Couple of summers after it came out and I was like, this is crap. Crap and it's crap now. So he did a more American graffiti. I've actually seen that obviously didn't really go over you look at his credits and there's a lot TV? Men Anyway I wanted to bring up I just wanted to bring up convoy because we're going to circle back around to that here in just don't WanNa talk about Cisco Pike. James Taylor allowed gene Hackman's in that. Show Harried hdfs is in this Cisco Pike? A down on his luck former drug dealer is forced by corrupt LAPD policemen to sell one hundred kilos of confiscated marijuana and one weekend. Cisco Pike. starring. Kris Kristofferson. Karen, black and Gene Hackman. Some good people. No Howard Hessman doctor Johnny fever and a girl by the name of Aviv s just her name Viva and she plays Myrna. Oh. She looks like a Myrna. Not to be them, she's definitely a Myrna. That means ahead of wall with that one with Myrna. That first scene where they go to Willie's place. Is Pretty Cool Bow. Yes. Actually. That jumps really quickly into the acts. Yeah. That's true. It doesn't mess around. Did we talk anything about Stan Winston Nugget like his one of his first projects yen take that over real quick I will because I'm looking at it right now they actually won an academy award for Onum sorry as a primetime emmy because it's a TV movie. they want an emmy for makeup outstanding achievement in makeup del Armstrong, Ellis Berman. Junior and Stan wins. That's pretty awesome Yup and that's you know what stuck with me probably the most is how good the I mean. You know it's low budget, but the makeup, the Garg oil makeup is. Pretty terrifying. You know. Which is, what makes it so cool when you will get to when they actually talk it's a weird juxtaposition. I just stumbled across a bit of Trivia here that I didn't realize. Here. Says, Bernie. Casey's voice was replaced by Vic Perrin's voice and post production Because his natural speaking voice didn't fit the character of ahead gargoyles you like we said the voice is manipulated so much. I can't really tell who it is, but it is very creepy. I think you know because you see these thing. Well, let's we'll talk about that a little later on when we get to the actual Gargoyles, the titular gargoyles we can talk about it. Let's get moving just a little bit too. So's we called this'll statute that he had the Callum Odra column. Whatever Hey, you brought it up I couldn't find where read but it said that that demon is not listed always not an official demon as an actual demon right I guess he's still waiting on his papers so. If we could start a go fund me page for the Kalam Dra. His. Baseball card isn't worth hardly. Any right even with his signature right has he's not a real demon. it seems like they could have pulled maybe the maybe they didn't want to. You know how they didn't WanNa, give any real information case kids like picked it up and started like speaking in tongues and shit. I mean the statute that she hands him looks like something you would find in like Spencer's or like a head shop or something. It's not very, it's not like an ancient relic. and. They don't give us a good close look at it is the reason for their little adventure because willy had gotten a hold of Cornell wild somehow I think. So I think we have a small conversation when we meet Willy and we talk with him. That he was kind of plugging his own story and Kinda wanted coronel. Backing up yeah. To write a book for him that's what I think. That's what he was selling. I say. Well I there's one line of dialogue that has like you know. Well, that's why I brought you out here. You know like just something in passing, but was he already in the area doing research? I don't know. I don't know I'm still on their car right over to willies and. They're talking about demon -nology and what he you know this book that he's going to write about five thousand years, of Demon, -nology, that'd be the ultimate coffee table book you know I would love to have that bullies book five, thousand years deem analogy will trace a man's conception of evil through the ages does he say more monsters more fun and profit? Yeah. More monsters founding. Prophet. Something colorful inexpensive for copy tables of American, more monsters for fun and profit as a way better name for the Book Than Five Thousand Years at the knowledge. Kinda Punch it up a little bit. Really sell it guys. It's like a self help demon. -nology book. So they're trying to find Willie. Some willies contacted them about something that he found. Yes he just happens to have. A curio shop in the middle of nowhere. That's like you know come. See the two headed snake take a look at my lizard collection. Come back into the back room and pay a dollar to be unnecessarily fondled on new. You're GONNA say fondled. I think there's somebody in the back of their station wagon Oh man I just saw it. His head under a blanket it's. Earth's the sound guy. Like that, it's the sound guy I can see his head under a little blanket I was GonNa let it slide but since you brought it up. Or they've got a kid back there. That's just like playing one of those old electronic games and they just never mentioned him. Dies in a hot car while they're being were fighting gargoyles. She's like I did billy come with you. God callum Ooh Dri the end of something to sacrifice. Yeah. So, there's a lot of wide open shots you know of them driving down the highway they're not wasting any time. Really they're jumping right into exposition. I wrote this down as exposition highway. Yeah. Get. The whole Spiel Dad, are you lost? No, I'm not lost I just made a wrong turn way back. Then you're lost Nia that's the definition. Also, there's just one dirt road. How did you off? I dig this when they're in the car though when they're stopped and make three point in writing. To make a u-turn this the shadow that goes over the. Creepy of course, they're not really looking they're just like a shadow. I'M NOT GONNA look up into the sky is literally nothing around us for miles. What they know made that is some kid flying a kite in the desert. But then they're just like well. The small cloud that looked like a gargoyles Passover I read in the Tribune on aimed e be this whole movie was filmed with one camera. I. Believe it. At that guy in the backseat. Like please, don't drop the camera only one we have. The two headed mystery Lizard. See the snake den Uncle Willie's desert museum sent. That says cold drinks of it says something before that there was cold there was cold beer and he makes a comment of Heller something stop here for anyway here's just another building not by the septic tank that just says snakes. Man No doors on it so It's Already worried. Three Indian blankets for sale out curios is what it says isn't that a song now? Not GonNA sing it. Yeah it was a song. Yes. See that he's got just a building this as snakes. Stapled a cowhide to his ceiling in the kitchen. We talked about this the other day though talking about the movie Resurrection I. Oh yes. She hasn't healing touch thing but yeah, at the end she kinda runs the a place like this. See the two headed snake Oh really. Yeah. Yeah. Oh my God. That's a weird ending. I never want to see that movie again. No. Okay. Willie just handed them a couple of just warm coors here. This'll really wet your whistle and she gets startled by this rattlesnake that's in the cage. Yeah. For the next two minutes during their talk tapping on. vk right. I don't think you really want to do that. Now she seems dumb like she's not going to arrive arrival. She's just the type of girl that would be kidnapped by GARGOYLES. It's so weird that in this I mean, she's like a grown woman in this movie not teenager, but it's just weird like hanging out with your dad and like bell bottoms and just like a tiny bikini, top? Yep. Weird erm I just it kind of bothered me to. Willy doesn't seem to mind. nope. You know I'm younger than your dad back. Take you back to the back and show you one of my bones? Hey, hey, don't go away. Did I mention bones? No wild as the best line ever and I don't know if I would have. Voted caught it except for the closed captioning but. Right when they walk into this shack I, guess the gargoyles shack a says smells like old bones yes. WanNa. What do you mean? What do you old bones smell like i? Don't think they have a particular smell do they I will have to consult my own? But Willie is like, yes. Finally I've found someone who is on my. You, know just bone smeller he goes to show them his gargoyles. He'd get a wing Gargoyles made up in the shed, right? That's that he's piece together then he say that it took. Quite a while to put it together. You know that he found these bones and he put them back together right? He found them. I think he said he's been working for a while to put them all back together. But the gargoyles chose this night to try to break into cry Maine's yeah. That is weird. That is really the basis of this entire setup is that the gargoyles were just trying to keep a secret that they actually existed so they were trying to retrieve. said. Bones right. which sort of makes sense. But what's weird is like Are they're two types of gargoyles well I. Think they said that they were breeders. Okay. So there Are the breeders, the winged ones I don't know. Okay and the rest are just like worker Gargoyles I guess. because. Then Bernie Casey straight up looks like. A man kind of. Like a longer nose in bigger team but the Goethe and you know what I mean I mean like if he had come out in like a leisure suit or something, and then he talked very like polite and like human to maybe he's just evolved. You know he's the first one of his kind or something. I think he points to one of the other. Gargo. Like speak. So they all have the capability use your big words. He's all about integration. He wants to become a US citizen. I assume. So but Cornell Wilde not buying this this gargoyles bones skeleton bullshit. Yeah. Pretty good work old man but those are human bones and you're a serial killer in the cops. Obviously, bones from your victims is this where Dr Forrester got the idea to. So a pig's head onto a fish mating. It's possible. Willie really pours on the kind of exposition stuff to kind of like boggy creek. He's got those bones in their apparently the gargoyles just. So earlier at seems like maybe burning case, he was kind of already checking out Diana from afar yet maybe that he's just following her. you know wants a mate like you said he's trying to integrate. Yeah. That's the fastest way to get his citizenship is to marry into yet exact can have one of those kinds of arranged fake marriages so he can get US citizenship. That would be a good plot better than what we have here. I think. So just have a montage of him like she's writing stuff on the chart board like the. Battle of Illinois you know I think that would work when he gets her into the cave, the Kaverner, their vendor home, and Asir to read to him. Right. You know he binds the sound of her voice. Pleasing. Yes and the Bikini doesn't hurt either tell me tell me more about Archie and Veronica So, willy is laying it on thick his smell o old bones is not the only smell and. I, guess we are to assume that they've been hanging out with it was broad daylight when they walked back to this other. Shed or whatever. And they've been here listening to his story for our. Wars in a hot ass shed drinking warm beer, and just listening to the ravings of a madman. Actually. Sounds like a Saturday, night at sounds fun. Now set out now that I've pieced together and said it out loud and he's also got a fucking Rad Monster Skeleton Yeah Yeah, never mind this is all I ever wanted. He's like I. Got a necker number gone to if you WANNA see that. That is cool. You know thinking that like you know just a roadside attraction thing has an actual like. Monster in it besides will. The true, monsters now, willy. has become kind of furtive and. He slowly walks over into spits a big old bar on the on the door. So that means that this has happened before they have come for the skeleton before it's like boggy creek where they have the little creature and you know the mom or whatever keeps coming by and just like scaring the shit out of everybody you brought it upon yourself. Yeah. Exactly. He also says some names there's some Indian names that are really hard to pronounce. Neck Neck Ataka keep. Show. is so hard. It is actually in this very lengthy blog on the last drive in I, read it like six times and still couldn't. He says noneya Tana to much I don't know which I think they were talking about either Hopi, Indian any. But it spelled no cit I see H. I. N. C. O.. S.. Which I read was something liking Greek or mythology that just meant gargoyles. Something like that. Yeah okay, so they're listening or the to record him. and. The gargoyles start attacking the shed. Willie is. Bombed on the head by A. Shelf and set on fire in almost instant. Yes. Like this shit it almost like the gargoyles didn't do it. You know. Everything was just a ticking time bomb like that shelf it was barely taped up. Like the whole shed was just held together with a few. Blake, strategic bones, and if you mess with them the whole, the whole thing comes down of that. Made me laugh though it kind of looks like Willy What's his name? Would he would he? Really, does look like the actor and you know it's all like foam and stuff, but he really gets clobbered and then it's like gallons of kerosene. There's. Whiskey barrel wooden barrels say kerosene on it. Yes. Is Basically A. Living on a ticking time, bomb was bound to blow at any time. So he goes to basically grab the skull He's trying to save his artifact right even with him getting bogged on the head. Yeah, and a lantern falls and catches on fire are good. Doctor does nothing really to save him? No uses two by four to scrape that skull over to me exactly leave in this five hours or five minutes ago his foot is touching your foot and you're not even a tribal like role playing. Something I'm not even GonNa Piss on him Yeah I've got a quick question. Okay. I. Just saw this. It's at seventeen thirty eight where Jennifer salt and Cornell they're running out of the shack that's on fire. It looks like somebody is thrown a dead bird, her they live chick. Okay. Somebody threw a live chicken and her and the close captioning I'm almost there. Say. It. Yes. I think it is. In brackets chicken cluck. The, close captioning in this has saved my life and is really funny chickens walking is what it says. So, and then she runs around back into the shed that's on fire. If I mean if it had been to her, she would burn the death because he's scared of chicken cornell has to turn around. Point towards the. Yeah that shed goes up like Freakin. Waco. Like it instantly engulfed in flame. was there a like key grip off to the side is throwing chickens at Diane I think. So I think so Diana Weird. Choice. Is Very kind of like a little evil dead is sure they were recording Willie was he saying that there was a ceremony that would turn a man into a gargoyles or something I missed the law that? You might have to go back and I surely there's not just goes nowhere but I I think you're onto something that'd be cool like the end of the Howling Diana would just like turn into Gargoyles to somehow. That would be awesome. Painter Green and leave that red top that she has. And Belva? Art So the shack is on fire Williams died they have no remorse. So we don't know that Willie might still be alive they never checked. Never Shack. Although. The spilled whisky on his pants and his beard. That's what made him so flammable basically. Just kindling. So Willy had a good life I thank sure. But if you really if you look at him when he's trying to explain when he's doing his exposition, you look at his face and he's two years younger. And Cornell Wilde that is A. I guess that's just the difference between a demon Allah Gist and day A. Roadside. Curios own, Museum Cure Habur. Has Long career as a curio however. So they don't really seem too concerned when they're driving away. It's like Kinda easy. Shit happens. All. Of that can be explained. That was nothing it was wolves. Remember that old guy. But they play this audio tape back several times while somebody shaking the car off to the. Work the smoke machine. When you see the the Gargoyles I, love the steam or yes. Smoke coming out of the back of the car. Yes. It's kind of a red light. Beckett. But when the gargoyles comes up on top of the car, it can't it's reminiscent of like Halloween, right? Yeah. My Car and lost boys to that's that's kind of the same lighting. So the drive with him on the top and he's basically going we. Allow stuff there. And, Cornell Wilde is just jerking that car back and I. Love His fake driving in that sane and even Jennifer salt like lacquer head dips towards the. She's like really selling. Yes. Slapping. Her head against the window. Have some fun. So, here's another. Another gas station I don't they haven't had a real good track record with flammable stuff. So. Yeah maybe you should wait until somebody pumps the gas for you. Yes. So the gargoyles gets thrown from the hood of the car. And they just go off to a gas station and one of the only a few standing structures. In entire movie they just burnt down one of them, right? There in like death valley or something and. Still don't seem very concerned about what's going on no. No they play off what happened to the car. A can you fix this? It looks like somebody Claude, the hood of the this is deep gouges. The guy's like, yeah, it's midnight. Sure. I'll get the work on your. Hug Get your hoop. Up. Good. Hey, where where are you in the film? They got to the hotel. You get to see the creepy what's her name? What's The lady that wanted to drink and everything? Her name is Grayson Hall. Yeah. She play Mrs, Parks. So she is the the maybe the owner, the proprietor this. Hotel and what she's immediately just Oh, you wouldn't believe what I've seen up here I went you stay for a nightcap. Stay for a nightcap. Okay He. They, get a hotel room from her apparently. And I I mean that's the seventies but Jennifer salt cannot be bothered with a brawl no raw other listen tired of him. But again, it's the seventies. So they're like so tired that they can't get a hold of the police that night. So they just sleep it off and I guess they're going back to Willie's with the police. To find. Billions still smoldering body I. Do love this she sleeping by the way and he keeps playing that. Tape over and over. Yeah. She awakes from her slumber. Own Screaming. At tape of cannot be good for you. She did not reach the Rem sleep with that but he didn't say that it was noon. She was still asleep he's. Ready to go in it's noon you haven't gone to the cops yeah. Again he could. He could still be alive. Willie is just less important than anything Willie, basically sacrificed his life. So the guy could write a book. Yes with his. Daughter and. This scene with the the not even a gang. It's just a bunch of guys riding dirt bikes in the desert. Yeah. Why does the sheriff like immediately jumped out in his deputy has shotgun on yes. Oh, they are ready to kill them. Yes this is. So trigger-happy Maybe. There's back story on this. I'm sure they're roving gang of dirt bikers if you're in the seventies and your Anna town like this this. Phenomenon will occur naturally, there will be a cracker shariff and a young punk for him to chase It's like a requisite thing and all a small towns I think you know you think. Maybe, they just needed a fill some time. Because when they start chasing down Scott Glen and the other motorcyclists yeah. That eats up a few minutes. Oh my second dukes of Hazzard same basically, and it almost looks like they may have sped it up a little bit. Yeah. I was I noticed that too also that's the sheriff driving that giant car deputy still got his shotgun when he pulls out to chase. The bikers he. Hits Diana she had to move back. He almost clips cornell grabs her by the shoulder. Thank God because she for sure would have broken both of her legs taken out both kneecaps Yay. This chase is kind of fun. Yeah you know. Yeah. It goes on for quite some time and he probably would have shot at him before now. Exactly. But I think they're given a chance to setup Have you mentioned that Scott Glen. The Guy. In Blue Scott Glen, there's only a few lines from other of the so-called gang by one of them is a stuntman course. Yes. Who is also a gargoyles? Right Yes. I. Feel like a lot of people on this head like double roles. You Know Oh. Yeah. Jennifer. Can you please hold this boom mic out of frame? Yes. Clothes. I mean the sheriff's basically like we'll hell if you guys weren't around, we would have executed him already. You're saying they didn't do anything against the law. Different. Strokes for different folks I get when the the friend purposefully runs into Scotland and knocks. He does so I don't even know what they take him. They take him in for being vagrants for looting wearing too much denim. Yet. I think I read I. Think Scott Glen was in his thirties in this is this is first movie or as I. Really. But he is wearing a Canadian Tuxedo. He's got a denim jacket denim pants denim shirt then everything. What did I say? Canadian? Yes, that's very odd what I meant to say okay. Good. The scene where the gargoyles like bust into their motel room yes. which their motel rooms like a whole like floor of a house or something it has a couple of big spaces. Yeah. So one gargoyles like in the bathroom like trying to make up and shit. Looking for the skull right I guess but also Mommy's not there. So they're going to try lipstick on and stuff. Cornell is wearing like Aladdin pants like kind of these like flow e like. Looks like the bottoms are just a jeans pants. One gargoyles shuts the bathroom door just to make it explode from the inside. Is already open is causing much damage as he could. There's like three or four of the gargoyles that are just coming to ravaged their bedroom still the skull, right? Right. Why is every action scene for the Gargoyles? Yeah. We sped up the car chases I was thinking about that too and if it was in regular. At regular speed, I mean I think the slow motion does make it slightly crappier maybe their makeup alone it's not like terrifying right And these guys the whoever they look kind of like the drones they just have like beaks. You. Know they kind of look like the sleep stacks in Jalis Same exact thing. Wonder. If that's the same costume makes us repurposes yet thought if they didn't slow it down decreases in the folds in the rubber costume might be more apparent or something. Cornell chases the gargoyles off in one of them. Crossing the streak is hit by a semi. It's almost like a he throws himself in front of a semi at it. Looked very avoidable. Did but the semi driver didn't stop either he's well. Yeah. Not another Goddamn Damn car while. You'RE GONNA. Say the. Same thing. But this is where we can actually get a good view because a good view. Cornell's. Upper Body. He wants to tend to the gargoyles but the doesn't want to touch it at the same time. Yeah. That's how you get Salmonella but that you can see the make up in the face and the is seemed kind of glow behind the makeup. That's pretty Goddamn call does this. Yeah. When he's like kind of tending to the almost dead when it does look cool. and. So many times where you like see the actors are teeth like underneath the custodian even that didn't look bad. So do you think they had those like back then they were just those completely blind contact lenses. That's why I got hit by the car is that what you're saying I mean What if they? What if that wasn't actually in the movie? Actor actually wandered out into the highway and got it. Well, you know. He would want us to keep the footage. I would say I. Dead I feel like in the seventies, there were a lot of like onset deaths that they're just like He knew the risks. That's right. So Now I can't Grayson her name's Grayson. Grayson Hall she looks like She's ready to party. She's been running this hotel slash brothel for years now, right? Being the only poker in the brothel I wouldn't go stuff I wouldn't call her a hooker. Hooker floozy. And maybe boozy floozie Boozy floozy there you go the ad but she does always have that like jelly jar full of wine or whatever that is that's awesome. Jennifer Salts, kind of she like Kinda Horny for. Scott Glen. So she's become kind of a you know social justice person she's like arguing for the yeah they kinda blocked is a little bit will also she is wearing an even more she you're an Top. Right but she all she has an overshirt. Yeah that she loses pretty quickly yet. Come on guys but this was TV. This was seventies team. Yeah. That's true. This is actually pretty risque. I think for seventy two having her run around like that. Yeah. For Seventy two TV anyway, right. This is like such a circular like they go back to the hotel and basically the same scene happens again. Yes. They've got the dead one on the bed and his buddies come to kind bust now. Yes, and they're basically like in a little Congo line by the front door and also all the other Gargoyles I just noticed kind of have different makeup. It's almost like they had a limited amount of time to make these cost so. I think I read this whole thing was filmed in like eighteen days yeah. Right. Didn't isn't there some bit of Trivia be that someone backed out of it because they thought maybe like the first director something backed up I did read something like that. Yeah. Because whoever's producing it was like, okay get this this and this, and it's got to be done like next week. Bill Norton, was a replacement for a previous director who turned down the project because he thought it was impossible to shoot the film and eighteen days apparently not when you just have the same scene happening over again. There is some pretty cool. I mean the way Willie's place blew up as I mean I guess setting the building on fire is like no big deal but that look Kinda conical didn't they burn down the hotel at the end of the movie Yes I think. So we'll talk about that soon to. Jennifer salt goes to the sheriff's department basically to try to get help because the gargoyles broken in. Yeah. Okay. So and Scott Glen just happened to be there. She's like you still have these guys locked up and they can't get a hold of the sheriff because he's already gone went home to drink can scream at his wife. Yeah. So she goes back to the hotel. The gargoyles are just out there when cornell wilde grabs her and spitzer, inside they locked themselves in the little hotel room, he puts a four pound TV trae front of the door and tiny little like Balsa wood share. And it basically just fucking explodes when the Snot Man Hits at one. Good Job Dad Dad. Are you doing the on purpose you want me to go with them. Don't you you want me to get abducted by the Gargoyles don't you? Why you bought all these flimsy little band of top swarm. Okay I'm getting a closer look at the other like type of suit. began it looks Kinda cool. They definitely don't look like. But they kind of look like horny toads remember horny toads with or yes. I saw that one's face I thought about that. Yeah. Yeah. They're in the car. Yeah. Gargoyles rips the door off the car. They take her away and I'm basically just kind of backhands, Cornell. Yeah, he gets a pimp slap. He's instantly out and turning this car over on its hood that had to be that thing probably ways fucking two thousand giant station wagon. It was cool. I think I remembered this as a kid to They really shows like the sheer power of the Gargoyles it was Kinda, believable in seventy. S When you get the first view of Bernie Casey up wrote his wings. and. He looks bad ass because he just kinda reveals himself and he by far has the bellies like costume. You know he does look like a devil he's big devil horns and the wings are very cool. They don't start at a shoulders they sort of start in the middle of his back. And they look really bad ass and that little slow motion scene where she's on the ground in he kind of quickly in slow motion somehow kind of just. Covers over jumps down and like others over her that was pretty damn cool. I thought looked pretty fucking cool and he starts touching her hair and checking her out. He definitely wants to take the top. Literally is held together by he swipes at the tie in the front. Yeah. But no boobs because this is TV movie, we're going to show you something but glad that a MS parks didn't have an excellent or anything. Oh, my God, she does break into the sheriff's desk-drawer. She's just like I'll have some of this. He's like this is the third report today and it's all bullshit us come and drink my booze. That's my share booze too. But the Gargoyles have been running all night to get her back to the cave eight Bernie Casey has. Well and they also want their they also want their brother I assume. But they've been running all night and it's they don't get to the cave until morning the sun is up. Yeah. He has been carrying this hundred and twelve pound girl Vermeil? Time and space in this movie are questionable. You never know how far the hotel is away from their cave and how far the jail is away from the hotel don't ever show you any, but they don't hesitate really to show you the Gargoyles in light they they wanted to show off this makeup. and. One right when they're going in, you know you see that kind of matronly. Gargoyles you know it kind of turns around and heads towards the cave and basically looks like it has a like a saggy diaper. Casiraghi. Diaper. Leaked They couldn't figure out butts. You know how to make like a monster, but how to make a monster but as your new coffee table, right? Coffee Table Book Yeah. Coffee Iveta one beer one beer. Because we got the Mrs. What's her face going into the share ARC's everybody basically is going to end up going to find the girl is that been abducted by the Gargoyles? So we're forming our own posse which includes everyone in the town. Basically everybody else in the movie except for. Diana and the Gargoyles well, except for buddy the. Gas attendant they should've thrown him in for just some fodder. Was He not the one that was driving the chick back into though my God? Maybe so So, literally isn't. CAST. Cornell needs a band-aid and you have to think that they got a first aid kit or something there says a big open wound on his forehead. So we left Diana with Bernie Casey in. Stan. Winston makeup sniffing her hair tugging at her top. Okay here. Here we are I'm sorry. Convoy was performed by bill fries. who also, he has a soundtrack credit on mystery science theater what? Yeah. Okay. It was on ripped tickets Okay. That's new MS okay. Okay. So you think that the gargoyles are this is kind of like a not quite a Shamlan twist, but you think the gargoyles are just kind of like mindless monster sort of because all they've done so far is just break Balsa wood doors and. Ninety little tables. What did Cornell while that was going to this is going to buy us a few seconds. Yes all it did the lamp was on that thing the light one, twenty bus. Many. Anyway but maybe that just speaks more to the construction of stuff back in the seventies bribe. But riddle me this. Now, I swear in the dialogue that Bernie Casey says, they've only been awake for two weeks. Okay. That's what I was hoping. You could clarify low vet because. I couldn't figure out if they were. Old Creatures that had been hibernating which I think that's what it is. I think that's what they weren't just birthed two weeks ago they had been hibernating or in some type of like A. Suspended animation. Chur. Okay. So but where do all these eggs come from? So that's basically they a hole. Cave I help clan of of gargoyles and a ton of eggs. So somebody's Ado In. The? Nasty. which can be seen on at forty nine. Oh two. Oh almost there. Bernie, Casey's talking to the the matriarch. About you know the eggs hatching what she turns and he slaps her on the L.. Yeah, he does. He does he gives her like a good game. He does a locker room. was that about letting you know that? Yeah. Even old ancient creatures can get it on like Bernie Casey was low get Outta here baby. Yeah. I may be green and slimy. I don't want you to see what I'm going to do to this human humidity. Take a nap. It's Bernie. Casey was not very good. So. That little bit of emotion and you know. And she hugs him when he comes in, you know and she's like stressed out and crying, we're calling her the matronly gargle. Only because she's the only one that has like, would you say like female features and a WIG bribe? Basically, every gargoyles looks different than the one beside it. They could have made him look all the same. That was interesting choice. But then also that just end that they have like you know they're. They're you know n even that asks slap as like A. Community in love and it wasn't. He wasn't being mean now no he he was like we're GonNa make some eggs later. Yeah. Exactly. So do you think that she's the only thing? I don't want to get into like the actual like. Maybe. That's why she's crying. She's like. But now, she's I mean, she's obviously crying because one of them died I got hit by a semi bright. That had been this cave there in with the gargoyles though it seems to go on for a while. This looks more like natural than I. Don't think they actually trust constructed. No No, you're right. You're right and there's no way. It almost looks like kind of like A. You know something you'd take a tour through Carlsbad. Caverns xactly. I'll man and he she did lose that Khaki shirt pretty quick. It can see most of her skin. Barely camera owner. But yeah, the cave does look pretty cool. Oh Hey look here in the trivia during the ride from the airport. Dunkel Willie's place. You can see the knee of the sound man He was laid station wagon thought it was his head I thought you were going to say you can see Jennifer Salts nipples. Very prominent. Reading Trivia here. I got lost too. Okay. I I dig this we have Grayson. I can why I can't remember a character name Miss Parks. Ms Parks missing drunk are not miss parts. Are you sing it with the T. or K.? A. K. Okay. Because if as miss parts that would be gross. But Buddy is driving her into town. Okay. To, go get back up. Okay right. Go get the state sheriff the State police or whatever get him. They say it's GonNa take two hours to get there. So they're really in the middle of nowhere right or that's just them like stopping off for snacks. And quickey. Buddy and MS parks. You think has happened before I'm sure and the Tau. I'm pretty sure that's what John Cougar Mellencamp sang about. Really what would song? Anyway. When they find their car that that truck just doing circles out in them. Yeah. Out Out in the open there that I thought that was pretty cool. There were. So they're driving away. You could see the gargoyles hand in the back creeping up on him. Yes. They had some creepy cool seen yet that have been used time and time again before and sense. Yes when they. Show Mrs Parks there's a scene with Scott, Glen another one of the motorcyclists. You know they're doing something to their bikes right and I think another sheriff's cars there. And they just look up to see her hanging from the Telepho-. Yeah. Upside down. That was pretty freaking create. Yeah. That was creepy this a really good movie everybody is just formed a poss. Yeah. Everybody whatever vehicle you want to drive or or ride. Horses. Motorcycles, trucks. There's a dog basically everybody in the town but I wanNA know how this how buddies truck got to closer where they were with the gargoyles. Then the rest of this crew, right? It's like he's the only one that knows of a shortcut. Are. We to assume that this big bag of stuff that has to be wine, right? They've got a that's hooked onto the side of the two. Yeah. Hanging from the Mirror I've never seen such a thing. It's a canteen or it's like a huge saddle battle. Thing. Yeah. Drinking water out of an old saddle bag. Sounds Gross. Cornel Wilde the backwash in there because they both take a big drink out of his got spits sloshing it around and then spit it both spit it out. Yeah. It's just your Brinson water. Drinking Water Yep. Is Like I. Wish this was. Charcoal Berry. Erm, you know whatever the? Area. Of. Go with something White Claw Wide Claw Yeah, a seltzer a sparkling water. GotTa forgot what they were doing then like Oh yeah. We're BSC China's Diana. Cornell Wilde makes like a giant leap of like four inches. Makes it look like he's really slipped like these mannix or something? Okay hang on a second the car with the stone on the accelerator. What? The gargoyles did that. Yes, I suppose. So because there's blood in the front seat, it's looks like, Ragu. It's like a weird orange. Yeah but so why why did they do that? He looks at it when he gets up out of there like I didn't sit in that that yeah. Oh Hill as gun kind of falls out of his holster he's a horrible sheriff. This is the most action they've seen in in the year I'm surprised he is not shot his foot off yet. She's having a really deep like intellectual conversation with Bernie. which she seems to have no problem. Yes. She's not scared at all. She is not in distress. I guess when Your Dad's a demon all. There's not a lot. That is going to rattle you know. And I'm I'm sticking with the slow motion. It does look cool I mean like what you were saying earlier about the makeup and stuff it does give you more time to be like. That's just a over-sized wet suit but. Did they have to do it and every time that the gargoyles and I. Guess they just thought it cooler but. Are they trying to make feature length? Oh, maybe. So kind of padding it out by I don't know maybe. He's basically flipping through an old book. Does he know how to read? He's the smartest writing the unclear. Because like you said earlier, he was encouraging them to talk right his other. Yes. Some maybe we're thinking about this too much I. I don't know but that's the big question although if they're so smart Bernie, Casey's made some blunders so far. he's not a good leader I. Think you just saw Diana he was like Whoa. I think he was looking for another way to perpetuate his race or species if you if you know what I mean a little bit of old. So, so okay. We go back and for its night. Yeah. They've been searching all day for Diana and these cases movie is either occurs during like a leaks or hours or air, but they've been out all day. and. Like I said the Cornell Bulls up in his bronco thing. to wear Scott Glen and one other cyclist there are. Arbitrarily turning knobs on their motor tightening bolts. That better up oh. Yeah. See that. But. The one of them just turns says, what's that up there? And they've been they've been tuning up there by underneath it. And indeed her hanging from this telephone. Yeah. And she doesn't look dead I almost neither wanted them to like she's like help me but. I guess maybe gravity is holding her eyelids open. Maybe, she's also kinda hung like the hanged man and like Tarot cards like one of her legs. Yeah. I'm sure that's not. I'm sure that's not on purpose. Really Weird though I guess they figured. The GARGOYLES can fly. So they wanted to put her up high somewhere. Maybe I'm still baffled by the truck thing but any. So the your band of of Mary men that are helping out for nothing as breaking up. So three of the cyclist start to take off and I don't think it's because that's just the way it was written as then they couldn't beyond scene because they had to go put on the costume was to be the car. I think so too. We do not have enough actors in this movie. We cannot have you in the same see. It'd be funny if they pan down from like the polka dotted half guy and he's just got one Garg oil hand and one regular. Ship. Yeah. I mean I have to like say if that's the case how this was filmed and stuff with like one camera, it's pretty good. I mean I I couldn't do they made the most of it yeah this. This is by far away better movie than beware the Blonde Wow. Yeah, and that Cena Lot. That take that Hageman. Did they bury Larry Hagman just a giant hat he demanded it. They find the cave and the Gargoyles at when He. Bernie Casey is up there kinda mounted in front of them until you know. Ordering them to attack. Yeah is laughing like a maniac are like kind of screaming. There is probably fifteen gargoyles they're in costume. Standing at the mouth of the cave. The we've never seen there's been like three of them. Like one of them's dead They're really ineffectual. They killed buddy in an old lady. But. Then when they're confronted with these guys that one guy that just kind of putting. He's dead. I guess we're meant to think that they were like really like digging their claws in, but they really vary basically just like kind of rubbing him. Home. But that one does that like straight legged like jump up onto the Bronco Hood. House. Pretty cool. It's pretty cool. Our friend Jj Var now could do that. He could jump up onto the roof of his car from just standing strict that the natural. And now. There are goal riding a horse. There's a gargoyles that looks like a has a praying mantis head. Yes. I saw that I actually liked that but that's really like, okay, guys we're getting to the bottom of. The makeup box. We're just GONNA put some old like. Motorcycle Goggles, and spray paint your head green when they start launching themselves off the little trampolines. Over pretty. Cool. Fun also earlier when they were in that big scene with the kind of matronly one and she's still talking to name that one hatches you know yes and they pull a straight up kid out there you know. Mean I'm sure it's a little boy. It did not look like a little person. You know what? I mean? No. No it looked like a young child. Yes and I'm like man that kid had all that makeup on. Shirley they were like. Maybe. You know like breaking a couple of like. Child labor laws or something I didn't see him credited in the movie at all. Yeah. Because he's dead. Like I said in the seventies, it was like acceptable losses if you could. Just write them off the script. Yeah. So the big attack from the Gargoyles and Cornell Wilde is just an ace with a shotgun. Yeah. He is blowing him back and forth one of them. Freakin GIS tackles just clips him. I saw that as it runs by gave him a shoulder check or something like they're playing field hockey. But again, Cornell Wilde is a demon all adjust. He's probably killed many demons right someone. Does so Bernie Casey comes up at the end of it riding a horse and yeah. Even. I guess the shotgun was empty 'cause cornell was just going to use it as a bat to swing at Adam. That's their. That's the go to move in any movie. I think it's the finally use the weapons just a blunt instrument. So Bernie Casey basically says come with me if you WanNa, see your daughter Cornell's just like jog after. Yeah, he's like, okay I guess. That's what we're doing. Now I trust you implicitly. But when they get into the cave, he's kind of taken like A. It almost looked like he's been beaten up a little bit more as an he got smacked on the head. I it's already smacked on the head he got roughed up. Will he got shoulder check by that one guy? And then kind of twirled the ground. Bernie Casey knocks him off of that little thing that they were on. and. When he gets up, it's almost like the actor Cornell Wilde is trying to decide like. Hurt at any kind of settles on his arm he Kinda rubs his arm a little bit. I keep just felt like twelve feet on your back when Bernie throws him though he just cackled he standing up there those wings and just cackles. I throw you Pudi man. Yeah emotionally he's kind of all over the map. I would think that gargoyles would be more straight laced. Yeah. Bernie Casey sounds like a is like gargoyles professor something he's a professor of the Gargoyles Arts. Gargoyles. Studies. So he's got Diana and the matronly Gargo Pulls Cornell Wilde off, they're going to get their own room and I must say. Hannah doesn't seem to I mean she's like this is our first day. I'm not going to let you you know and they look like they've just been like smoking a joint had a couple of glasses of wine reading some books he he creeps down on her though it's kind of suspenseful. Yes. You'll wonder what he's GonNa do you gotta remember it's made for TV at imagine if this was rated r. that's the movie I WanNa Sing Director's cut the Snyder at a gargoyles. Yet. So that we get to see another one of these gargoyles which we saw snippets of the the eggs hatching and the very opening when they were doing the the exposition at the beginning. These baby gargoyles ugly I'm just going to say it. I'm saying right there. They are one of them comes out and kind of looks like the baby from dead alive and. Like ugly baby. Just got like. On it's faith Kinda slime on its face, but that's just the way I think about all kids. Let's just confirms it. Okay, so the matriarch comes to get. Coronel. Wild well, I. Think she said that she was going to take her to take him to her daughter his daughter God I came talk take him to his daughter but it Kinda seemed like she just wanted to get him alone to right exactly. That's what I thought was going to happen. but if it did, we don't see it because it's a made for TV movie. The did you get that the matriarch was a little jealous over Diana so she? Wanted her own? There's a whole thing playing out with her and Bernie Casey that isn't included in the movie. Well I. They probably were trying to branch off into seventy Sitcom and just did not take out right like three's company where one of them's. A Gargo. Yeah, I can see the at. Cornell Wilde when he gets a shotgun in his hands, he looks like he's never lived bill this moment like he is having the time of his life I mean really. As a demon Allah gised. Exactly. This is this is the highlight of your career right here. I hate it the cameras stole the end of this movie with Scott Glen like putting the gasoline all over the eggs and stuff. Scott Glen waste no time to grab two gas cans and run up the hill to go. End to the cave. Yeah who's the real hero? He doesn't owe these people anything. If anything they've been shitty to entire time. You sort of expect him and Diana to have this thing. Since they're the only to you know beyond good looking people in the entire movie But that never happens because it's a TV movie we ain't got a lot of time we need to move it along. But yes, as you said Cornell, what he is a freaking as a bad ass, he is gargoyles killer. Yes, and his pants. Those dockers obviously have some kind of stretching. Because he is. His really hard on them. This is a good action sequence for him. He's one of those older actors that's like. Kind of a tough guy it was sixty when this came out she is. Yeah, he's having a blast. He has like a blood lust but I guess it's because Diana's right there. But I don't like that. He Kinda Bonk the the female gargoyles on the Yes. Kind of like on her hump but that was an interesting thing. Okay. Let me back up because I'm catching up to hear a Scott Glen sets all the eggs on fire and then get actor pricing himself for people that he doesn't even know their names probably. But I think that's you know there wasn't anything else going on, but those eggs had to be very flammable exploded. He went up the way they edited that it almost looks like Scott Glen explodes he lights that thing with all the gargoyles around him, and then there's like a big kind of like an explosion. And you don't see those gargoyles and you don't see him. They all just like spontaneously combusted. I don't know I have no idea the showdown between Cornell wild and Bernie. Casey they've been talking in a knows he can reason with a my yes. He hits the he damages the ones wing. Right I guess it doesn't kill her that she does look very fragile when she's an old of Gargoyles. So that's when he was like. Hey. I want my daughter. You WanNa live and perpetuate your species. Here's your chance grab her and get the hell out of all do the same. Yet pretend this never happened. Right. Exactly. They all just walk away. It's like a like they went to key party together and they just don't WanNa. Look each other in the. Not a good ending. No I was not a very satisfying ending just to see the gargled. With his his wingspan that. Could not hold the mass of what he is. He never got up high enough. To where he was just going to go live. So, it's not like the wings are just for show. They must have they have some other means of propulsion but that's what made me think of because she mentions the matriarch mentions that win the little boy was born or what when the little gargle sorry. Don't mean to put up gender on a gargoyles. When it was born a was a breeder but he had wings as well. So it made you. Thank that. Okay the ones with wings are the only ones that can breed the other ones are gist sleaze tax I think all that type of stuff was thought about like way later like shit maybe we should explain some of the stuff. But they never do. Just left with so many questions. Like. How did they think that lasts like flying scene look good. Yes. I guess that was on the eighth or ninth day it was like all right We've got to wrap this up while we got what they could have done it in the shadows I thought they played really well with the shadows I. Think they're doing a lot of like day for night type stuff. You know just with the like it's full daylight they just that's why and the pitch of night when they fly away, you can see the shadow on the rocks. Yes. Exactly. Doesn't quite add up. But. I mean all in all it gave a young man named Stan Winston another credit and didn't know did I read that this? This was his first film wasn't the first one I thought I read that somewhere I d now but creators of Gargoyles, makeup, Ellis Berman and Stan Winston. According to Uncle Willie. The native American presumably Hopi or Navajo name for the Gargle is the neck attach Inko? Yes. Where Bruce Willis went in yes the plaza. Share universe. Okay, that'd be cool. What if there's just a gargoyles? All right in the middle of diehard? Of An. Awesome. He was behind the whole thing. So while the dance that summons them is referred to them as the known Attaya. Okay, right. That's what Willie was talking about right I think King of the hill mentions that. In bobbies trying to. Join. The order straight era. No, Way Metania Anyway. Again why would you know that? Why wouldn't I know that so? Yeah I have such strong feelings about this movie and still do like the parts that scared me when I was a kid. I are the parts that I enjoy. Now you know. And Finding out that it had to be filmed on link a little over a week makes a lot of you know that explains thanks. Yeah still love it. Still love those made for TV movies we gotta do we gotTa do the with Kim Darby. Not. Terence Trent Darby. CNN made for TV movie between the hence the name of that. Don't be afraid of the dark. So Right But the little things. All right. I'm looking Kim Darby. As I don't know why I don't have her on speed tab or something. Yeah. Yeah they have that. We're talking about calling this the Darb our guests that was the DAB cast. It was still it would work. What if DABNEY and Darby? Way. That would. They had married and he had aken. A name would be Dabney, Darby? Was that was that worth? It was that worth the joke? Oh, you tell me. We'll see we'll see how many downloads this kids. We. Lose a few. Don't be afraid of the Dark Nineteen seventy-three TV movie that what I said don't think so. A couple inherits an old mansion and habitat by bias small. starwars tried again this. This deserves better. A young couple inherits mansion inhabited by small demon like creatures I thought you said better who are determined to make the wife one of their own. Still a wacky Sitcom Highway I like to read them. Now I don't remember seeing this early Nineteen seventy-three TV movie from October Nineteen, seventy, three, an hour and fourteen minutes long well, I remember being good and I think year mode del Toro made a remake of I could be wrong about that. All these made for TV movies are so cheesy. And granted TV. Then probably wasn't given half of the budget I mean they spend a lot of money on TV now the budgets are way for TV now from back then they were like all right. That's why probably these costumes were borrowed from another set. Yes. Sure. Just kind a retrofitted. They had all these rubber suits before and said here we were gonNA throw these out anyway just. Roger Corman made of and Shit movie a couple of weeks ago, and he just left all the stuff. Is going to have to hose them out and put him on. But a fun move I think maybe it's because they have to get creative about some of the stuff because they don't have the money that makes it good. You know I'm with you or the like and will skit get in there and crank this thing out. Forget it ever happen. says here the scenes with the gargoyles running and moving. were. Slowed down to give the GARGOYLES. An unnatural. JERKY quality. Like. The Turkey boys chief met one. Yeah. Some of that. were. The hotel in the film. Was An old of business, hotel near Carlsbad New Mexico. It was actually burned down for the film. The ruins were later recorded as a historical archaeological site. With. The New Mexico department, of historic preservation. So did they did they burn down an archaeological site or did they decide that Oh this movie was mayor this is an archaeological site because Gargoyles was filmed there. Yes that's what I'm saying. Well. They need to remake this. I think big it's worth a remake. I think. So but you know how hard it is like narrow it down to I mean everything that I searched for before was obviously the cartoon from like the nineties. Yes No. Association. Between these till it has more association with like that episode of tales from the dark side for the guy or the hardest. Since that Lisa Bonet now that was a Radon Sean. Radon Song and. The Guy from the warriors Michael Beck. No the other main guy Crap, I can't think of his name. Mind is twinned blank. Oh, the Garg oil from the tales from the dark side movie Berry James Remar who I was trying to think of. The artists. And she says we can. We can just have sex all the time. And hang out. if you don't tell anybody that I'm a gargoyles and you know what? He fucking tells people where you can't. You can't that something you can't keep under your belt though he merely hey, I, gotta get this off my chest. Yeah. You don't. You can't go tell your priest now I mean now definitely that would work. I'll just get drunk at a bar and tells some random person. I don't remember how that actually happens to tell you the truth. I remember saying the. The tells dark side movie at the. Theater. Didn't. It also have Christian slater in one of the episodes. Yes. The Big Christian it has everybody in it. Steve Shaming. Julian Morrow right. David Johannesen yeah or also known as. Buster poindexter. Extra couldn't quite think of it is in the New York. Dolls. Niagara Falls. William Hickey, oh the oldest man and he was old before he was actually. Yes. Robert Klein there's James Remar. Forever. In that movie. By why is that movie sound a wild? I need to go revisit. Anyway. Love, the TV movies I think will probably do. A few more few more. As this was, I, think our oldest film was not seventy two. That's. About, as early as we've done. Yeah. You're right. So that makes this movie just as old as I am wow who and who held up more. We're GONNA find out. Next time on. Press Your Luck. Okay. So you're going to post a picture yourself on twitter. And then a picture of Bernie Casey laughing maniacally as a Gordon. And we're going to have a vote. Have a poll take a look at the ratio held up better. Yeah. Thanks for that well I. Think we did it. We did something. Definitely, did something I think we raised awareness for this? Awesome old movie. Raised awareness. We should have Garg awareness month. It'll be like the month after Toyota Thon. They've got like the early fall. Isn't a Ford truck money at Ford Truck. Mont is in I think that might be going on right now, I'll have to check. All right. Let's wrap this up. was you're saying, Hey, go visit our website, check it out. We got some new things coming in. 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Episode 208:  Self-Made Man

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Episode 208: Self-Made Man

"School. Are Bender on the nights. The most trusted source for top to bottom coverage of everyone's favourite mid nineties animated program. How I am your host Liz Circle Royal. I am your host, Daniel, Williams and I just don't even know what to say. About Liz and her intros anymore drought control. Well, I guess we're here to talk about gargoyles today. Yeah. Tell me about it. Today's episode is Gargoyles Season Two episode eight vows aired September Fourteenth Nineteen ninety-five it was directed by frank par gay mixed feelings about you. Frank. You know what? I'M NOT GONNA blame this on him. I'M GONNA blame this on the writer first time only time gargoyles writer Sherry. Good hearts. She is written exactly a one episode of Gargoyles. They probably were like never again Sherry never again, she's written lots of TV as a matter of fact, she is right now sneakily triggering another episode of everyone's favorite podcasts within a podcast. Liz's favourite show. She's never seen before star trek the next generation Uh and For, that That was fast normally triggered this quicken to an episode. No usually it's an actor or something like that. But Sherry good hearts actually written three episodes of Star Trek. The next generation she wrote nineteen nineties, the most toys nine Hundred Ninety One night terrors in one, thousand, nine, hundred, ninety, two's violations. Before we get into today's episode, I just want to remind all of our pal oils new and old to leave defenders of the night, a five star rating and review on their pod catcher choice because we need them to live to live. Shelley Begin. Yep. Okay we're GONNA start in Medias race here. So we are on the roof of the Golden Cup everyone's favourite row story. Yeah, and we see Goliath and armor clad deluxe just punchy punchy fight fight part of was like is this just a continuation of where they left off last week on a rooftop fighting but this was a new thing and finally deluxe rips off his helmet he's like. You're never the first one to throw a punch Goliath anxiety. It's all like well, I don't trust you look at our history. Yeah. So Liz deluxe invited Goliath Yeah Golden Cup Coffee Row St. How did he invite him? Is there some sort of Gargoyles bat signal equivalent? Did he pay him on his nextel like what the Fuck House he invited right? Because he still doesn't know where he lives I mean of course he does because it's still it's still a job to know everything whether or not. It makes sense for him to do so but story wise. I don't think so so somehow he got invited. So deluxe sentiment email gargoyles goal. At AOL DOT com. Yeah. Hey meet me at the Golden Cup Coffee Rotary at this time Goliath said, okay, cool. showed up started fighting right like why would he even come? That's a good question for this entire episode yeah. So. Just like buddy I just wanted to talk and like what we don't do that, and then he's like Oh. Yeah. I'm getting married tomorrow and I want you to be my best man. Now is this a case of like? I love fighting with enemy so much that he's actually my best. And how angry do you think Owen is that he's not the best man. I don't know how to answer any of your questions lives because none of this makes sense we're seconds in the episode none of it makes sense. Yeah Okay He just wanted to talk and glances like we don't talk one of the very last things we saw in the very previous episode is a conversation, a new understanding maybe dialects things because they had that little moment together in the last episode that they're turned a new leaf and he can be his best man now. Yeah. You're the only one the understand that I love Fox and I want you to be my husband he wants Goliath to be at the wedding, which is tomorrow. So is this November I what is the timeline shortage engagement ever or is it next spring because it's not snowy or cold seemingly? Dude what God does like, why would I do this? You don't have a Tux what do you. Like tomorrow I gotTA check my sched-. Taylor that knows how to deal with wings come on man get a plus one does dream bow continue my day and then deluxe like Dimona is GonNa be there keep listening all the reasons I don't WanNa be anywhere near your wedding. Do you have any more? Is Owen going to be there cool like no, why would I want to do this? What deluxe are you not aware of the fact that Dimona has tried to kill glass and his clan many times over now? So many times and also he's an happy fucking relationship with another woman. Okay. So already I don't understand and we go to the clock tower Liz. This scene has literally three lines in go to castle wider lines are pretty much. Dream about being like what you fucking idiot. That's a horrible idea. Don't do it and hasn't been like God do what to do and then glances. You're right. Those are the three lines. Moving on. So then we go to castle wandering. A helicopter or some sort of aircraft. Alica okay and Fox's the pilot. Derek quit or got fired. Yeah. We don't know where the fuck Derek well, he's a cat goal. Yeah. So Fox's his new pilots I guess he is employee she Santos Industries employees. That's what I wanna I wanNA know that to also what the fuck is she wearing she's wearing this weird fly suit, but it's also kind of like a unit hard like i. don't even know what's happening. got a weird belt. Also, she was a famous actress slash fighter lady and now she's some rich goes fucking pilot. Yeah. Why isn't Owen flying the helicopter? Do you normally he is. So the reason that this helicopter lands is because she's flying in Deluxe is dad and is he just entirely aware of the fact that his son is a super villain like if I showed a my adult child's stratosphere reaching Skyscraper Castle and she was wearing a robot suit with wings I would for sure be like well. I definitely fucked up somewhere along the way what is going on here? Yeah. I mean it's very obvious from the get-go that his dad disapproves of everything. He's just kind of lake. Why do you need all this and? I mean why not I can. Liz have. You ever just hardcore made out in front of apparent. No, that's weird. Right. That's real fucking weird. Because deluxe in Fox just tongues in mouth just going to town on each other's faces well, Father d just standing there uncomfortable. Yeah and he says the dumbest Shit I've ever heard I wanNA play this clip for you because this episode is piled with garbage heavily. Rich. Bad. Luck to she the Brian Wedding Fox and I make our own luck Liz. That is not what the superstition is about. Yeah. It's bad luck to see the bride in her wedding gown before the wedding that's the superstition. Right. Tell me about this backstory. So we find out because father is a poor fisherman and then his dad starts going on about. How some random guy gave him a coin when he was a kid or young or whatever he wishes, he could figure out who that was like give them a piece of his mind and we find out that the coin is worth like twenty thousand dollars in whatever year it was when he received this coin. which leak? That is a lot of money if you don't come from much but it's still I, think impressive that he took twenty thousand dollars and made it to the fortunate is today it's not like he was given a million dollars. Or quarter of a million dollars but he didn't take that twenty thousand dollars in become. What he is today he took twenty thousand dollars and turn it into say ten million dollars, and at that point you're just exploiting labor. Yes. Like. He himself earn any of it after we'll call it the first million. Sure that money in his labor force earned the rest of it while you sat back and made robots or whatever. Right? Right. Right. He's not even selling. He's not using this technology to further as business he's building robots funsies kill a dragging man I. Okay I. mean he calls himself a self made man and again I would just say to a certain extent for sure after that hundreds perhaps upwards of thousands of people made made you for you you pastored. This move into the Great Hall. And Owen brings in a judge because this is not a religious ceremony course not and deluxe is still wearing the robot suit and he just goes to shake hands with the judge a stranger who was not expecting to me to Cyborg, and he just behaves in a way ignores his surroundings. Yeah. Deluxe does he ignores the fact that he is in robot armor. He is a man that is totally lost touch with reality and I guess. That's to be expected when you live in a castle at the edge of the stratosphere, right? I mean I think that this has got to be what it's like to hang out with jeff basis where this man does not know how to be a human anymore. Yeah. So Liz Deluxe says he wants to show the judge and his father video. Do you think it's the ring or do you think it's a weird porno weird porno yeah. Weird Porno that also will kill you in seven days. He ends the scene, my saying the best man and maid of honor. Our unusual says the man leaving the room in his robots who turns of Pricey didn't get married in his fucking robots. I just want to be like glides. Okay. Lizzo past. Yeah. which was very jarring transition for me. Every fucking transition in this episode is joining, but this one was specifically jarring to me. Did it even say the year or die lockdown during that? This did not say the year. Okay. This is just earlier. Yeah. So we see Goliath and Dimona, and this has been there all lovey dovey in the nine hundreds and. They're. Going to be late for. Prince. Malcolm's wedding. We're that they are invited I was about to ask that why were they invited and not Hudson who doesn't have a name yet? Hudson's like are not going to that not interested. Thanks. To the wedding they stand in a window and watched the wedding Dimona breaks a plate in half for badge or I don't know exactly what it is some sort of. ICON. Yes. They're seen like the vowel was being shared in the rings and Goliath is all like wooden. An odd tradition is it. I did a little bit of research and Christianity had been around in Scotland for we're talking four hundred to five hundred years before this, and also the exchange of rings goes well beyond Christianity. Yeah, Celtic we'll say practices have been in that region for ever ever. So it seems like a tradition of practice the rings. The gargoyles ever been to another wedding would be well versed in So they are all lovey dovey the way that weddings make people and gargoyles apparently they decide to vowed themselves to each other as well. That's. Just, like crash this wedding and make it their own little wedding. That is a huge faux. PAS. They didn't do it in front of the audience as well. But. Big no-no in the in the wedding community, and so she just has this thing breaks it in half and is like you hold onto your half and I'll hold onto my half. It was like best friends necklace where you put the hearts together and best friend what the fuck is the plate what Oh. God. But Glides being the sentimental fool that he is loves it. And they've Outta love each other and be with each other and then he called her my angel of the night and it was like oh now. dammit. Liz We go back to the future. I had no idea but I was hoping in the clock tower and the clock tower and they have a trophy room. It has the Green Gorham Snorkel Borkum book. Vote in there. That continuity is one little bit of this episode that I appreciated that they're like we know that he has these things and he's got pedestals. We don't know where he got pedestals in the attic of a police station. You're asking too many questions now storm was there and Costa was there too. Yeah. Just hanging out it was just a brief pan across I'm like good on you trash episode but yes, he has his half little thing. Trinkets also in that room I. This is what pissed me off though I enjoyed having all those items there. But what angered me was his going to a wedding where he knows his ex is going to be as I understand that he's feeling sentimental and thinking about things in the past. But why are you bringing it like what why that'd be like I'm GonNa see my ex boyfriend I. Guess I need to put on the necklace he gave me. And my husband would be like what the way why are you doing? Like Dream Boat I just so sad for Dream Boat in this whole episode. Yeah you're right. You're so upset right now. I. Don't think you've actually finished that sentence. But I get it I understand your sentiment because it's fucking absurd. Episode the Lovey. Dovey and now he's like, Oh, my ex know that they put this one directly after the previous episode in doesn't make any sense it's stupid nudity. Wise. It's too close to the proposal sentimentality. Wise. It's too close to all of that closeness that dream boat now goliath had like it doesn't make any sense for this to be especially knowing that dream boat straight up side like please don't go to this and he's not only going but bringing a very special item with him also, he doesn't know what it is or what. It can do right. So it's not like he's keeping it for that reason like Oh this is part of a magical talisman or whatever. Right? So he leaves we assume he leaves. We don't actually know what he's GonNa Castle whatever and yes because this weddings got pop off. So like market go I was assuming that glides being the best man had to be a trap, right? Like I mean of course. But why just the idea of all the things that happen don't seem to connect to anything else that happens in this episode I guess. This episode is trying to do a lot as. A whole. Failed. Ninety eight percent of it. Yeah. I would agree with that. Okay. So. We got to go to this fucking wedding the wedding. Liz Can you believe that this episode dared to validate mass bullshit conspiracy theories they eliminate e. l.. It's real and deluxe ever because of course he is of course he is. He's the leader I don't know who could be. I don't know much about the elimination except that it's secret society that apparently is centuries old. But? Yeah. So he has. This luminosity pin on his talks and Owen is like Oh. Sir, do you think that's a wise idea to have that just out in the open and he's like it's important it will matter later have to so go ask shows up to this sham wedding even though it makes no sense for him to do so but if he doesn't then there's no episode that happens a lot in some of the more poorly written episodes that they only have a story because Goliath does something that doesn't make sense for Goliath to do. Yeah. The way that they portray him makes me really wonder how he kept his clan alive all these years they're allstone well, I, mean like when they Like when he was a active leader because he makes all these stupid decisions that make no signs that. Come to this wedding even though I'm your enemy and your evil ex will also be there and he's Gosh got me well Liz. To be fair to Goliath thousand years ago was simpler time. So he didn't have an evil ex then now, but he had didn't have a billionaire cyborg arch nemesis nobody had that like major guy I mean if that's it, he's doing okay I think know that's fair but he as a leader should have some critical thinking ability. So why that's never coming into play or not coming into play enough especially when he managed to outsmart deluxe in the again previous episode, right? He was like. You thought you were going to do with thing actually we're going to skip that part. I'M NOT GONNA fall into your trap because I'm not that dumb except for the this episode is like Oh maybe I am it's hard to tell the shows written by like two dozen people. So Dimona walks in and she looks just like annoyed to be there I'm annoyed to be there. Get it. Goliath. It seems like surprised hate Liz. Do you remember that video? We talked about earlier yeah. It's never brought up. They don't bring it up here. We don't talk about it. My assumption would be the video was showing them. Footage of the gargoyles should not be surprised, but they're still like when they see the the gargoyles. So maybe because they're bigger and scarier in person, did you hear the judges accent when he started on the whole Spiel? No, I can't please feel like daddy deluxe also has a weird accent. Yes. Now we don't learn where he's from until later in the episode, but I can jump into that. Now if you'd like Jarre because apparently there from Maine have, you ever met a person from Maine I mean I've been to bar harbor multiple times. That accent yeah it's a wonderfully bizarre accent, but it's not that is not that that is a bunch of fucking nothing that was like someone trying to almost kind of Irish Kinda but also it sounded a little nordic. A. Maine. Accent, I don't know what this judge is doing and the ceremony his two seconds long. I've been some short weddings my wedding pretty short. I feel like he didn't do it. All okay. Litter wasn't enough wedding here. Legally just get married I mean you don't have to do anything to legally get married. You just really need to sign some paperwork. Yeah. Okay. Like they didn't have any shared vows or anything they didn't the fuck in judge didn't even know her name what is your legal name? My My name is Fox League League which I want to know what it was initially because obviously she legally changed it I wanNA. Know how this discussion couldn't have taken place before this scene. Yeah. Also, Fox has the most. I've ever seen I'll take your word for it. I didn't realize until she runs off a little bit that it's also short is short wedding dress that she's also wearing white tights with she has very interesting fashion choice. I. Thought it was weird that neither she nor deluxe changed before the next scene. Well, there's no time that's a fun joke in all but I mean, yes, there is because of the premise it will. We're trying not to spoil IT I. Don't know why but we're about to get there. So okay during this ceremony Dimona like. Storms off she waits till the end it only took three seconds. Sure. Fair. And goliath chases after her why the fuck does he chase after her? Yeah. Why does he care also like she's pretending to upset or something like this is bringing back emotions from their previous. Why is GRANDPA DELUXE? So angry at Fox and regular deluxe he gets really pissed is like you can't do this. Do what? Why are you? Mad Why are you shouting what is going on? I? Guess he didn't think the wedding was traditional enough or long enough, and then he's like, okay, gotTa go my and like hurries off and. I don't know that conversation made no sense to me daddy why'd you even come to this fucking wedding? Why did he show up out now because there's only so so you said, Goliath goes outside he and Dimona are reminiscing or like he wants to reminisce about their marriage or whatever. Where is Dream Boat? How could she possibly think about not showing up to this event? Okay. Based on what she says later in the episode I don't think she knew that he left like he snuck off to go to this. Just based on the how the rest of the story in the series has been portrayed. They always know where the other one his I know he whips out his half of the broken plate the Dimona gave him as a wedding gift or whatever we brought up earlier he's bringing a gift that his ex gave him. That is the thing that you do when go to a wedding I, do it all the time And then Lo and behold she has hers too Oh. Listen to this clip. Yeah. Goliath Ura. Sentimental fool you fell right into our trap. Now I have the Phoenix Gate undying tend to use it. Legras. Ten in. Exchange, the honeymoon has begun earlier than expected because it was a trick Maha. He should be seeing this shit from a mile away. Yes. That this whole thing he literally started the conversation with deluxe at the beginning of episode is I. Don't trust you and then he's like Oh you want me to come to a wedding. Okay. Cool Dude. Yeah I know I'm Liz yes you're absolutely right. So. This thing is the Phoenix Gate Phoenix Gate what's that? It's a magical dinner plate. Yeah. That is a time travel and teleportation device So this episode is time travel as it turns out ten minutes in we learn time travel I mean obviously this was all a trap like she was working what deluxe and Alexis like bring your plate I bet he'll bring his to bet right like what if he hadn't goodall Goliath we know him he'll bring that plate and we get transported. Deluxe and fax get there just in time and then daddy deluxe also comes. Mark Grandpa de runs over stop stop what I don't know. But don't do that whatever you're doing. I'm very familiar with time travel. So I know that you're about to travel back in time. Okay, so Liz Yeah grandee asks where aren't we and deluxe response the question isn't where but win and I'm sorry but apparently they traveled to. Scotland. So the question is still wear you fucking turn this same note the we're actually really matters here. It's not just win because being in Scotland when you are is very important if it was just when. God they would have been in a swamp a thousand years ago North America. We gotta go to a break yeah. After the accidental death of their close buddy Eugene with a group of six friends gathers in a backyard fallout bunker for one last game to mourn his laws and celebrate his. All his going as well as I can until on earth shaking event holds the group into a millennia long war between two inter dimensional empires follow the trials and tribulations of being in over your head when it comes to inter dimensional war inter species, relations, and the complete destruction of all universes in a beginner's guide interplanetary destruction award. Nominated Narrative podcast from the calamity cast network. Check it out on apple podcast Google. PODCAST. Stitcher and. Calamity. CAST DOT COM. Okay we are back and we're in. This episode. So yes, again, the where matters the where is so important and the win is nine, seventy, five ad the furthest back in time we've ever gone. Yeah. See Little Baby Goliath Baby Dimona. Yeah. So glide is chasing after Dimona. See them take off but we see them in the sky and Liz I sent you a screen shot of this flight seen something about traveling back in time caused old man goliaths face to melt like a candle. You know what I'm talking about. You saw at the animation in this episode, which I haven't brought up yet is awful. I don't know what the fuck they did in the ceremony seen you and I have discussed how old animation you know the backgrounds were painted and then you lay cells over the background for the actual movement because the background still move I could actually see shadow of the judge against the stone background in the castle and not like he was casting a shadow like the cell wasn't sitting properly. The. Cast a shadow on the background. Dude I don't know. But sometimes in this season, we gotta do some research. Man. Okay Goliath melts at a little, but he pulls it back together. and. Dimona, says some magic shit in disappears because as I said, it's not just a time travel advice like this'll just throw you across the room if you wanted to. You just have to think of where and win. Yeah and you gotTa say the Magic Words and dinner plate will take you there so. We go back to the woods and we see cloaked people being attacked by masked people and elects decides he needs to get on this battle and some pretty good kicks. He's got some good moves in Fox jumps into an even GRANDPA deluxe. Yeah. He's got a cool face grabbing jacket move which I guess is something that all manner fishermen know about of course yeah. To be a Maine fisherman like you have to be a pretty tough guy I mean to fight crabs and lobsters that's dangerous I. think that's how that's what crabbing us down there and like A. Fistfight him. Right make some extra delicious that way. The victory is that much sweeter. Victory with a side of melted butter. Hey, it's a really good thing that deluxe were his luminosity pin do you like just like an enamel pen like they're popular right now? Yeah. I'm? GonNa say fifteen thousand dollars Tux he poked a hole doesn't care why I guess when you're a billionaire fifteen thousand dollar talk Texas just like toilet paper to him. Yeah. That's like buying a pair of jeans from the goodwill. He didn't give a fuck three, thousand dollar suits come on. The four thousand dollar suit is holding the elevator. The guy doesn't make that much. This five dollar suit come on sixty, three, hundred dollar suit come on. This guy he removes his head and he is the worst hair was learn stare. Wow my ten year. Old Self feels very attack. No this is worse than than your average bull cut I feel like this is like Friar Tuck bull cut this is pretty bad. You're right but he removes his glove and here's like the leader of whatever chapter of the Audi- back in the nineteen hundreds. Cool. Cool. Good thing he's got the button pin whatever. So He's like, Oh, you saved us. You have some good fighting moves come along with us. Yeah. He invites them to castle with vern I. Think it's pretty clearly established castle wide vern motherfucker. I missed that part Yeah Hey Liz you've gone to a lot of weddings ran a lot. How often do you invite strangers to those weddings that you're going to is that typical just say like Hey I'm on my way to a wedding it's totally fine if you come along you and I just met but that's cool. Right you're wearing a pin so I can trust you what I mean. I guess it's a good thing this work. That's the story I? Guess it's a good thing this work out for him. This is the name of his memoir. Yeah. Also that's rude. It's rude to invite a stranger to someone else's wedding, but we find out that the person he is the bride sets different. We do find that out, but she doesn't invite them to her wedding. I know she is a matter of fact, does not speak in the scene she doesn't that's weird. But her protector man who wasn't very good at protecting her invites anyway. So we get to castle earn and Goliath ends up there. You know it's his home he knows how to find it. He sees his younger self and younger Dimona and I have to say younger him doesn't do it for me nearly as much as older him visibly smaller. They're significantly smaller and smoother, and he has a higher voice. Yeah. Well, they did Dan in the previous episode with the Arch Midge. I mean I guess it's hard to tell if they were sized differently in nine, eighty four but in nine seventy five, it was noticeable how much smaller the Dimona and Goliath were yeah older selves. So, nine, ninety, five, nine, ninety, four. That's a nineteen year difference. How old are these? How do they age I don't know I'm very curious in this episode is that like teen DM verses like thirty year old dumb or the little babies? Are they like Elvis where the age very slowly at assume that? Yeah that's more fun way to look at it. Then we saw like Romeo and Juliet situation where a couple of tweens get married. Yeah. Yeah. I mean that would've been normal I guess nine, seventy, five that's what makes their fucking relationship just pathetic like pledging myself to you forever showed up married you just hit puberty. dorks he's just figured out what your Dick Does God. So the Elvis thing. Got That makes it less luxury alliance very much would be like that sixteen or seventeen year old who's like? No this is the love of my life and I swear it and I pledge myself to you forever. I love you puts on my chemical romance and he slams as bedroom door shut. You don't even understand. I think you just made him even less attractive to me. Go all along. We go down to the courtyard and we see bull cut man and deluxe. Showing. Up to the castle, and then that's when we officially find out that the woman is Malcolm's bride to be. Anytime, there in the past in Scotland, the accents are ridiculous. I didn't understand what this accident was supposed to be that the lady and bull cut were rolling with it almost like she's like Italian she traveled from a far off land to merge shit. That's kind of how it felt like it was not even the Shitty Scottish accent show does it was I guess similar to the judge and that was like this is everywhere in nowhere this accent is nothing it's trash but must do she is from another country and say Norway. Norway she's from Norway they're merging their royal families for whatever reason Malcolm is there and is very grateful that deluxe and company saved his bride-to-be and gives him some coins. Yeah and the look on GRANDPA Deluxe 's face suggests that these are the coins that he was referring to when he arrived at Castle Wide Vern Great. We. Episode is exhausting Kellogg happens in a very short amount of time like I said earlier it's not done very well like the threads aren't connected so much tied up in a big not and episodes like Mary, go figure it out. So Malcolm is so excited that his bride to be safe and these people are here. He's like fuck tomorrow let's get married tonight and then fuck tomorrow. Go inside the Phoenix Gate was in the bride's glove. She takes her gloves off and the Phoenix plate falls out is it like shrinking and growing because when the GARGOYLES are holding it? It looks like this big. You can't see it. But like dinner plate is yeah and when the lady human has, it falls out of her glove. Liz Back in the tower, Goliath is having a hell of a time trying to explain time travel and like to play a little bit of this clip just it's ridiculous I am not a creature of sorcery. I am a visitor. From the future and I suppose you glided back in time on the wind no. Sometime in the future I attended or will attend the wedding of an enemy and I was a will be tricked into helping us all back here by magic. I don't know what my enemies purpose in this time. This is an accurate portrayal feel of trying to explain time travel because it can be difficult and confusing. Oh, for sure it's a very complicated matter but also like I'm surprised he was able to save that much because who explained time travel to him other than he was back in time yeah. I was experiencing it as enough. I don't know when you explain time travel out loud you sound. Like an insane person that's because it's not real that you know of okay. Fine. We moved to the arch majors lab and this actually answers the question that you and I had yet last season you and I discussed whether or not the arch midge was ever an ally to Prince Malcolm and I guess technically he is slash was at one point because we go into his lab this is very much to me like a Jaffar kind of thing. In Latin where I'm the trusted adviser who does magic all so but I'm also like secretly plotting against the throne. He was plotting against the throne. Necessarily he just seems inherently bad I mean I'm assuming he wanted that plate for bad reasons. Sure. But not necessarily against to the throne when you think about it, I guess but he was stealing it from him. Okay. So the arch made hired those bandits to steal the phoenix plate because he needs the plate, the grinker, fizzle dazzle magic, the Magic Book and The eye of Odin, which is an entirely different region of the world and religious slash cultural beliefs. But sure whatever and he'll be like super duper magic. He'll be most magic, but this part was the second thing I thought was really interesting about this episode. Yeah I agree. So he's talking to someone in the lab and then the camera pans and UC he's talking to his apprentice who is Domoni It's a pretty good twist. It is a guitarist I liked that and I like that finally gave some information regarding her magical background because that seemed. So out of left field for so long. Yeah. We've often brought up how it's so crazy that she just knows spells really. Well, this is fucking y she studied under a powerful wizard by any rate. She's been given the task to steal the plate, which is the important part here. That is true. And so we move to the castle courtyard where deluxe is hatching Blumenauer plans and Matt is going to be so fucking thrilled when he finally finds out that the luminosity is real, can I play you? Alexis plan yes. The society is to wait one thousand years and then deliver the first envelope to a young David Santos of bar. Harbor. Maine. That envelope contains one of the coins Prince Malcolm gave me earlier. It's practically worthless now nine, seventy five. But by nineteen seventy-five, if it will be worth about twenty grand, the second envelope is to be delivered twenty years after the I, it contains a detailed account of how the coin was obtained. That's how I knew how to set this all up. I received instructions from myself last week. So your CPAP I am indeed a self made man he has to go to the past because he went to the past. That's like that circular loop I will not lie. This is where time travel always kind of loses me because something has already happened. He has to ensure that it actually happens right. But then how did that already happened like I get? So confused has to happen because it already happened. So it has to happen because it already happened like it can't not happen. So you have to ensure that it happens the. Time travel loops there's another school of time travel. Thought I'm not super well versed. Idea but. You know that thought that correcting something breaks something else. So you can't ever actually affect the past Neapolis. Obviously is not that make sound killing baby Hitler would cause something else to break which would make an even worse thing happened like splitting of the timelines, the butterfly effect and all that. Yeah. So Baby Hiller has to live to be adult Hitler and so on and so forth because the consequences of that not happening or even more catastrophic that kind of theory of time travel. I like time travel, but it's tough to do right exactly and I've seen in red sox. Travel related things. Way More Awful Shit Oh. Sure. It's really easy to fuck so easy to fuck up but. His plan is weird and interesting like he sent a coin too young him. That's how he gets. The coin is a self made man himself was given that coin. Then he sent that coin to feature him. Yeah and then also a letter with the instructions feel like that should have been a much longer letter. Hey, invest in apple invest in Microsoft maybe he did we don't know. But Yeah Daddy Deluxe is like Kuku cool. How effective we get home, which is a fair question. Now, really the point of this exchange though I think daddy deluxe is just over his shit will. It's weird how he's so dismissive of the fact that he travelled through time and his son like I, mean I guess if I was deluxe I would be more annoyed than anything else. My Dad if my dad was like, yeah, this is all whatever. When are we going home dude do you realize the mackin nations I have set into motion? Do you see what I did I'm a fucking God. Yeah no wonder deluxe is the way he is, and it's attention seeking. That's really that's a good point is daddy issues. I am a fucking king look at what I have done like. Dessert right nothing's ever good enough daddy. So deluxe just keeps having to do more and more and more. Am I going to remake the world and my image for you do of respect me and that's like I wouldn't bother value but I would have respected you if you just have a fisherman. To Fish. Don't like you. Suddenly his next Robo suit is just like a lobster. What about now dad. lobsters, pinchers listener. CLACK clack clack listeners don't know but there is some top notch miming on our show. Both get very animated with our movements. We really should have like got a livestream. This thing we do Liz we're going to the bride's quarter. Yeah. This woman is never given a name I. think she gets two lines. You think it's because she's not allowed a name until she's married maybe then she just Princess Malcolm's wife. Who then gives birth to Princess PEA PANTS YEAH I'm sure that you're the same I like me and the nameless princess here you love brushing her hair with your eyes closed ignoring the world around you might correct it's just so relaxing. Yeah. Often just mindlessly spend our is brushing my hair lost in a sea of nothingness as I close my eyes and ignore everything the Gargoyles perched on my window sill stealthily reaching over to steal my magic plate style or is just regularly. Reached over to grab your beer right now, like that's how it was like you don't see. The Phoenix Plate is sitting on the dresser or whatever I thought. This was going be difficult like Stealth Mission Dimona is perched in the window sill says, oh, there it is grabs it turns around and leaves up and that was that got it and then we go elsewhere I don't know if you're looking at my notes at all but I described it mostly in capital letters can I just read my notes listeners? Young Dimona has the plate and older. Dimona shows a for reasons in young goliath spots. This meeting of the minds an old goliath tells Hudson Young Goliath cannot go check this out and the to Damone is the teleport and then one of the glance flies down and the whole thing takes fifteen minutes a very slow process I heard that too and I swear to God this is all happening on the screen but. The words that I'm saying I, don't know if you understood him them I did not. Okay. So a Goliath swoops down during the teleportation seen. Okay right. Right and the fire bubble and I swear to God it's old gliding tells Hudson to stop the glass swooping down. So Hudson flies off. Okay. Young Goliath I think it's young Goliath flies into the fire bubble and then we cut to a distant shot the fire. Bubble. Disappears and then Hudson and Goliath is standing there. So what I think happened old goliath and Hudson repurched perched up here. Yes. Old Glide sees the younger go a little bit further down but not as far down as the Dimona as like Oh, fuck cannot go check that out right stop him and like cool I got it to Hudson's hoops down to young Goliath an old goliath unlike dive bombs down to. The bubble, we don't see. Oh goliath. We see a you're not wrong as it turns out you are describing what happened but it doesn't track visually we see young Goliath look at the fire bubble. So what is that gotTA check that out? All goliath and distances like, Hey, he can't do that, and then somehow they swapped places was my brain hurts now I think we should rest. I'm going to go take some advil. Listeners into Alpha male bad ass ladies and happily ever after then check out another great calamity cast podcast Dick the week where I chat with my other two co host. But everything we love in sometimes hate about both writing and reading romance novels. So grab a glass of wine get comfortable and let's get down and dirty about romance find it on calamity cash dot com or wherever you find your podcast. and. We are back in still very frustrated with the. Episode wants to do a lot especially right here where the Dimona have teleported still castle waiver and but now we're ninety four and we see kesselring just burning. Yeah, we see castle. On fire, we see rubble we see piles of dead gargoyles. Goliath perched at the top. That's his spot win is this goliath and Hudson are on a fucking hill somewhere they don't make it back in time and then the castles attacked by the time Goliath gets back to that castle. It's calm. It's it's rubble, but it's calm. He doesn't turn to stone at the top of that castle until the Magus curses him. Exactly. So that means that all of the humans that were rescued. By the Gargoyles let that place burn as they're moving back into it. Yeah. The princesses they're the mega says there fuck is this I don't know if it's on fire just. So we understand that it's after the battle, but that doesn't make sense for stone Goliath. No at all because the fire was not happening when he was like, fuck, it just turned me to stone. Why would it? Why wouldn't anyone put that fun? I I. Guess they're just trying to make drama. All right. So the Dimona 's are there the night the clan was destroyed old to Mona's like look at what happens when this guy is in charge he loves humans more than he loves us you can't trust him. God dammit list you have a take on this I'm struggling because this episode is just my question I had when this was happening is this how Dimona survives the attack because current Dimona shows pass Dimona, this is what's going to happen and so she avoids being killed because we still don't know how she survived the castle attack maybe I was wondering where's glass half of the Phoenix Plate for the next thousand years is it up his but like where is it? Because it would make sense for young Dimona to survive that way like she just transported into the future of week or a month after the attack on the castle like what if? But she doesn't have both hands. Where was it in the intervening millennium? What we also don't know? Yeah. Because at this point, she has the full one she hasn't broken in half yet fucking. So what is happening is basically, Dimona is trying to show her younger self what a bad person glances and don't let love get in the way of what can be yours. But as we know about this version of time travel, what happens will always happen in happens because it has to happen because it happened. So, old Dimona already knows this conversation isn't going to work because of how she broke the thing in half at the wedding and gave it to. Goliath. Yeah, because it happened so. Do it. Why does old Dimona try to convince young Dimona because she knows it doesn't work because it didn't work because Dimona and she has to be fucking dramatic and she has to have a speech about killing all the heavens and early in the world is just unbranded for her well young Dimona. She doesn't care. She doesn't believe it should fall for any of it. She's like you're not even my real mom. I'm never going to be like you your old look at all your wrinkles. So. Just is like all right. Well, if you're not gonNA, just be convinced I'm just GonNa. beat their share of you. It's not a good fight. It's not one of Gargoyles best fights. There's no good fights in this episode, this episode is trash, but anyway, Goliath yeah stops the attack. Yeah Goliath wakes up he was kicked unconscious. I forgot that part Yeah Mona. He's there he's just unconscious and he wakes up and smacks the shit out of old Dimona tackles. All Dimona. So she's out of commission right now a hand young Dimona is sad blah blah blah blah. Blah goliath gives her some pretty shitty advice. Let's take a listen. What am I to do? Do. Nothing nothing. Do. Not Wait or look for this catastrophe live in the moment attending the petty jealousies and angers that prey upon your heart, fortify yourself with love and trust, and you need not fear this future but most of all. Fulfill the vows of love you make. For the can surely save you I shall. You have my oath. Wants to. Hey girl. Listen I, know you have the knowledge and power to save your entire clan and perhaps change the future of our race but just forget about it don't pay attention to what you now know is going to happen and just live your life girl. Yeah. What? An. Okay. Can you speculate as to why? Goliath is. We're just GonNa go ahead and let what happened happened. I'm just going to the sentimental reason and be like life wants to be in the nineteen hundreds in New York City to have his dream boat lady that's really fucking selfish then, and perhaps he shouldn't be the leader of clan of Gargoyles that used to consist of way more. But now are just four others. Maybe he just knows Dimona and knows that like she'll obsess over this thing and potentially make it worse and maybe that's why he like just don't worry about it. I don't know his speeches horrible. I don't know what he wants to happen. He wants all the Gargoyles to die apparently. We go back to nine seventy five. And Ago I takes all the future folk back to the extreme ninety. That's I mean slightly more than happens but yeah, I mean that's pretty much all that matters and then the arch made shows up to like yell at Dimona. It's pretty much and she's hiding the fact that she has the plate. The arch majors like kind of attacking her and Hudson steps in and stops it good good for good. So the arts major says you know the strange left I'm gonNA blame the theft of the Phoenix plate on them. That's what I'm gonNA tell. Prince Malcolm what does Prince Malcolm even actually know about the play in why does he actually care for all? We know is this a trinket like a decorative thing that is like from her land that she's bringing for gift for him for the wedding? Does she know that it's magical? That's a good question. There's not enough. Explanation as to who knows what about this? Yeah, and he goes off and then Goliath shows up and that's when we get back to the beginning of the episode of Oh. We're GONNA be late for the wedding. Let's go. Yeah. They go to the wedding. It's instill is like Nah Pass doesn't change buddy I'm not going to that wedding. Now we're back in Kassel Waiver nineteen five everyone is where they're supposed to be in time but Dimona remembers glide speech and is like ha ha sucker I remember everything you said nothing changed you can't change touch it it didn't work. Yeah. Her thesis statement for this time Travel Shit and Alexis these a statement for this time travel shit. Our exact opposites. Yes. Because she's saying that you can't change the past. No matter what you do whereas deluxe is like, Oh, no, you motherfucking shirt can here's the proof I live in a castle at the top of the clouds swell and I think maybe more. So for her like she's always going to be evil no matter what I wish we had. Seen. More nine seventy five Dimona to get a feel for her personality. She seems very nice other than she's learning this magic but that doesn't necessarily mean anything bad like we don't see her using it in a bad way. I mean, I guess since she's printing for the arch madge, he wants to steal some shit. We can question her morals. Yeah. She didn't do anything that was outright horrible and that reach meant nothing is really her point. I'm still a jerk. You. Your words fall on deaf ears, kind of thing. So the gargoyles leave to go back home daddy deluxe gets real fucking Sassy here. This he grabs a penny and flings it at deluxe is like here maybe thousand years this will be worth tons like that's all you care about money. Toward. Is Anymore honestly I mean he's a billionaire when you're full, you don't hunger no matter how much food you have. You can have a full pantry like I have food hunger for this. Yeah. Because I know it's there he hungers for the power now, which also presumably doesn't make any sense but whenever daddy deluxe is just a jerk, he is angry maybe because his wife left him long ago and he doesn't want to see other people. Happy. We move to the clock tower. LA's dream. Boat. In Brooklyn are yelling at Hudson about rescuing lives we got to go rescue him in Hudson isn't worried because he has the memories of everything happened. Did he always have the memories like this time travel thing or did memories just form when got back like I don't understand the memories mean here because he didn't know that he was gonna go time travel but he'd Oh shit he did forgot. So Hudson all along knew that a guy was going to go to that wedding be that he was gonna go back in time matter of fact, Hudson is always known that on this night November first nineteen ninety-five. Goliath was go back in time. Yeah. Because he did that makes sense. Dream bites upset though to Hudson's like. No matter what I tell you won't believe me but it's GonNa be fine. Right and that's one goliath shows up and he hardcore GRUMP scrumptious. I didn't understand this ending I didn't either it actually made me really upset. Okay. Thank you promised me wouldn't go and he totally blows her off. No, he didn't. He never promised her she earlier said you know you can't go to that and he was like, yeah, you're right. That's not a fucking promise. That's just telling you I. Hear that you're yelling at me. Yeah. You're right. So she's all upset also sorry according to Time I didn't have a choice and he just like goes away and is being little grumpy and like nostalgic I guess I watched these last few shots, multiple times I didn't understand what was happening. It was like he was thinking back on when he and Dimona lake arm and arm and had pledged themselves together and then she fades away to be like, oh, no machine inherit loan. So do you still love her and you imagine having the? Kind of relationship that he now has with Dimona instill feeling the style GIC. That's fucking insane. Man. Oh God. That's not the definition of like an abusive relationship. It's nuts and it's like during their actual relationship things may have been fine everything in between then and now he's even thought that before an episodes he has been like anything I might have felt for her before that doesn't exist anymore unless someone else writes me right and unless someone puts a wedding memory in my brain now I'm good old sir. Okay Sir. Go Talk to her she was being an asshole is she was, but that's the end of the episode I don't understand the shot now drawn very well maybe side trying to figure out something about this episode I just got the Wiki fan page or whatever. It said that the ending was actually supposed to be showing him Dimona the castle doesn't he lives in the clock tower now that doesn't make sense. Yeah. It looked like a picture of Goliath and Dimona, in the clock tower. which doesn't make any sense 'cause she's never been there was supposed to be the castle. Okay. Yeah I don't know I saw this episode was like neutral to slightly negative for me and then more thinking about them like no, if I can hate it. Yeah. Let's one more break. I'M NOT GONNA shout into the void, but we're gonNA take a break. Wanted. One hundred zero and a fantastic leading lady to be brought to life with love and loss cast indulgent in radio drama filled to the brim with romance laughs and all those wonderfully awkward moments to come with a new relationship and don't forget those delicious sexy parts that make romance novels. Oso Fun to enjoy season. One of eleven left is available now at calamity cast dot com or anywhere that he can todd cats. Like. I said we're we're back I wouldn't lie. We're here Liz we just finished gargoyles season two episode vows. Really like to know what you think of this episode. If anybody listens in, you're on twitter. Shout at us. Let us know what you thought. I hated it Liz. What did you think? It might be my least favorite I walked away from this episode. A COUPLE OF TIMES DIDN'T WANNA keep watching it kept pausing it and just went looking for something else to do because I was like, no, no is so bad. So that's my rating. So. I. Asked you earlier I asked him before recorded. What is this episode about I feel like it's about deluxe fulfilling his destiny you kind of thing like. Because he specifically did this thing which led to the life he has he had to like insure that it actually happened and he didn't care how that affected other people. But like I guess, Dimona tell him bt dubs I have half of this plate and Goliath has the other. Did you know that lets you time travel like they get that information from he had to have known because he knew that's the thing about these circular time travel stories that he already knew because he went back into the past and then he affected his future. So his past self told his future self that it was going to happen. So there's no way it couldn't happen because it did happen. What's the one piece of advice you'd give your younger self you went back in time out one piece of advice. You maybe it's lame but I would tell younger me that the time you have your loved ones is limited and to appreciate. The time you have with them since. Both my parents are deceased and I was sixteen nineteen. When that happens I think especially would been like, Hey, those couple years you have after dad before mom dies limit up with mum like we had a good relationship but like Well you know what it's tells me I would tell them. To not be selfish and to utilize that time. Better good luck trying to tell a teenager not to be selfish you know. That's a tall order right now what would yours? We don't sell the Ludwig. Vista like drum kit. Why I miss it ever since. How many kids are? Surrounding Mirror House therefore for kits and I told my wife the last drum kit I would ever buy would be allowed waiting hammer vista light. had. One when I was fifteen, it was my first drum kit and I sold it. And I wanted it back for almost the time Oh my God. I would tell myself not to sell veterans. You're going to regret it exactly regret fuck that Shit. Have Very few regrets. That's one of them. Do you like time travel stories I do. I think they're tough but I like the concept I like when they're done well, which is difficult I mean the most recent one was the vendors in game I thought that one was fun. Yeah. Think they fucked with the time line and fix the time line? I had my fun time travel story didn't break anything. So nothing matters. Yeah. I sort of liked looper that was a good time travel story I. Good. Just GonNa throughout twelve monkeys as a time travel story. I hated because I know my wife listened to the show. I just watched palm. Springs. It's a Hulu It's kind of a groundhog day kind of time travelling and I really really liked it. I. Love. GROUNDHOG. Yes. Great Story Anyway. That's been another episode of defenders of the night. We did it in the bag. Can you believe it now felt forever sorry people. Every episode we'd like to say, thank you to Ian McGowan for creating the interstitial music that we use on our show in McGowan. Banks Buddy we know. Check him out on Instagram and twitter an easy underscore breezy understood Mac and listened to more of his music at good deed music band can't dot com or sweet gum S. T. L. Dot band camp dot, com. If you WANNA, talk gargoyles or your favorite time travel tales used to hash tag gargoyles on twitter. 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Episode 204: Between Memory and Oblivion

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Episode 204: Between Memory and Oblivion

"Think. We are defenders of the night the most trusted source for top to bottom coverage of everyone's favourite mid nineties animated program. shaking my head. I am your host was. Wrong. I am your host lists. What happening? I am your host Liz Urkel I guess I am your host Daniel Williams is this how a Roland with? Doing this. Broke it. started. Should I be concerned not yet okeydoke listeners I guess we're going with it Daniel. What is this episode was? Talking today about gargoyles season two episode for a lighthouse in the Sea of time are you prepared to do? So do you need a minute? Okay Thrill well, friends and Powell goals. This episode aired September Seventh Nineteen ninety-five getting. So close to my tenth birthday. I'm so excited opens a good episode whatever. This is a continuation of the daily episodes. I'm assuming they're going to do the first five, and then they go back to the one week has been frank power the whole time. Yeah. Frank par pair are we looked it up earlier and I could look at the beginning not going to this episode was directed by Frank Par. He's done four in. A row good for him a jet frank. It was written by Bryn Chandler reaves who I like most of the time Tim and she is paired up with Lydia Marano they teamed up an episode of the season which we love. We did not as a matter of fact, I was trying to think of what the second episode of this season was. It was the one with Derek turns into Wolf Cat Bat. It was a forgettable episode, but you know what? It was Lydia Marino's first gargoyles episode. So it's forgivable. This one is another weird one I liked it better. I did like it better I. Feel like this was a at least a slight bump up I feel like episode one of the season was pretty strong and then it did take a dip and now we're on an upswing like you said. So that's good. Team it. We'll see well before we get into episode fourth season two of Gargoyles. Dear listeners. You know what time it is. Liz is back with another one of her weird stunts apparently, she saying if you leave us just too nice reviews this week she'll wrap herself in a giant pizza in. Log Roll Down Art Hill Liz. You're getting weird I mean it's what makes people happy. I aim to please I. Don't know this seems like a youth thing like you just want to wrap yourself up in a big old pizza I get to eat it as you're rolling. It's it's. An escape. act. Just eat. It's hot pizzas. So the cheese which you get wrapped up melts informs like a straitjacket type of thing. So you gotTa Roll Down The hill and he your way out of the pizza before into the lake. Vol into the lake, which is a reference that everyone listening understands. They know what art, Hilas they know there's a lake at the bottom of it moving on. We start the episode and some sort of Cave as far as I know this is objectively one of your favorite locations for real life for fiction you gotta thing for caves in Pete's. I was quite excited that this episode started in a cave re bummed out that it didn't stay in a case a little bit. They were barely in the cave they mealy found this item that they were looking for. But what the hell were those cave hunters wearing I don't know I. Don't understand these people at all. They were British yeah. Their accents weren't British, but they were British she out were try it kind of reminded me of Jane and her father in Tarzan never saw. All. Right. Okay. Well, if any of you like the khaki color. Likes outfit Yes which is something that you would see in fiction that took place in early nineteen hundred initially I was like, Oh, well, it didn't say we're in a different ear 'cause I initially thought maybe this was a flashback of some sort like no, these are just weirdos there's just 'cause playing. Explorers. Well, they find a magical heart I mean. If I heard a harp as I was exploring a cave, I would turn the fuck around because you're not supposed to hear harps and caves. That's weird. But they keep on I'm pretty sure they're. They're hunting these items on purpose like I think they had an idea like they were. That's Deanna. Jonesing? Shit. While you would invoke Indiana Jones, I wouldn't even throw this to the mummy. The these explorers were fucking wack. The room that they find is just covered in weird treasures including the harp. It looks like someone's hidey-hole. Yeah. So the heart plays itself to which overlook that in my notes, but the heart is just plain harping that's not right. No one is concerned with ghosts they should be I'd be like. So in addition to the ghost harp, they find a really cool box. Yes. Inscribed on the front of the box in quote ancient Celtic it says the seeker of knowledge need fear nothing here the destroyer everything. Okay. Cool. So it's a mysterious box with knowledge and then this bitch is immediately awarded up girl. You're not going to be a little careful at all. Like cool. I would knowledge and like pop it open there is a box in myth with all kinds of bad shit in it that was locked away. It had a name I can't remember what it's called. But it was a bad idea to open said box. Why. Are you doing? Historically, boxes have been bad. She's goes where it she's goes Lou magic pours out of this box. Yeah and all around these two people an inside they find hidden magic things including the scrolls of. The thing I don't know I'm not well-versed in King, Arthur history me either but I was excited when they finally mentioned Merlin because I I've been bringing it up multiple times like there's a tie to. Arthurian. Legend in Gargoyles because I'm very old and forgetful I don't know what it is but this has got to be the beginning of that. Yes. From there we jump to the clock tower the gang's all here they're just hanging out. There having fun reading periodicals there immediately talking about Merlin. So they've heard that these squirrels are coming to the met and Lexington is renowned all these facts facts. Then, Goliath, you know that the library below is has tons of information on Merlin if you're interested and I literally forgot that there was a library also in this police building the thing it puts the library in place because we've seen Goliath goes to the library. Yeah, and we didn't know where the hell he was and we assumed it was in the same building that it was a little weird. This is like a mixed use building was this weird in New York City right where like has one of the most famous libraries? Small. Township yeah are. You can put your fire station, your police station, your library, Your City Hall all in one building. So they're talking about reading and Broadway's League flook reading I can't read what I need to read. Yeah, he wasn't even like, Oh, I'm kind of ashamed that I can't read or anything like that. Who went hardcore defensive like Fook, he's not just illiterate he's anti literacy. That's weird and everyone else will just kind of like. Okay. I mean the because a theme throughout the whole episode Yeah. This episode is a attack after school special. It was like a reading rainbow of Gargoyles really was and when I realized that it was like, wait a minute what the fuck is going on here. As someone who both writes and reads allow quit bragging was like I understand the importance of this but even I was like, all right this is a little heavy handed. The heaviest hands. And, we'll get into an even more later because it just continues on and on and on Boo. For All the scene is pretty light hearted. We cut over to Hudson who is watching celebrity hockey with Bronx it doesn't surprise me he's a hockey fan I feel like he'd be really into hockey. I don't know I feel like because. He's got hockey vibes. He's a warrior, their whole warriors. He also watches more TV than everyone else. So Dream Boat is apparently part of the scroll escort team, the set Ooh God with Matt. Doing this cool thing. And Glide is like Oh just go have fun with matinee and I'll here and he doesn't know he doesn't but he does go sassy phase like he lives a little unhappy that she's like okay by angering Negu, this thing Merlin's girls back. And then he decided to this like angry look on his face that they focused on and I don't know. And it was also the first time that Dream Boat wasn't just like Matt Yeah I think she's finally getting used to her partner, which is good because they're co worker so you can't be addictive co workers forever it's not her style. No, it's not but it'd be funny. The whole like the entire run of the show is like fucking asshole and he's like I'm standing right ear she. So on our way out, she mentions that these girls are sealed and rumor has it. They contain magic spells and I think that's Goliath makes the face at like no not magic. She always goes wrong when magic. Magic. Has never done anything for me. It's done me no favours I've got turned into stone with magic got hunted by Dimona with magic best friend came back to life because of magic. Magic is bad where glass quick question who is starting these rumors who the fuck does. She know there's like, let me tell you about some magic rumors. I heard three like go on. Tell me more about the magic rumor like what who you is it Matt that. MOTHERFUCKER Matt, match like I heard in the Kook weekly newsletter that I read they have magic spells. He's in a weird Yahoo. Chat Room. It's the ninety s he be in their own, the AOL chat group that I frequent. Then I was wondering if she just fucking with Goliath because of his bad run INS with magic Jews like. Hey Goliath I heard there was magic in this bells. I. Feel about magic why you gotTA bring that Shit Up Well we leave the clock tower and go to a boat. Yeah. A really fucking rocky boat yeah. Getting so sick now, where we hearing any of this bad weather outside of the Clock Tower, Oh are we supposed to believe that this insane storm rolled in in between scenes on one of the rivers there's this coming from the ocean assume that it's coming from the ocean because what we're GonNa get to in a second because why are they on a boat but they were coming from Scotland or England I mean I assume Scotland originally because of the tied to Macbeth me just because of its really the real deal Merlin. Before Scotland existed, I don't know history and I don't want to Great Britain area or the focus do not. Care it's not like they ever told us where it's supposed to be. So I'm doing my best similar over their boat suddenly Dream Boat and match show up on another rocky boat and are climbing up i. feel like there could have been a better way to do this like a helicopter. helicopter onto that shit or something. But now I'm going to have the coastguard take me out on this boat. Then I have to climb up the rickety ladder to get onto your boat. Here's where I was wondering where's the rest of the escort? It's a team of two. So this job was important enough to have somebody escort the scrolls, but not that many people wasn't that important just ancient history literally in the palm of your hand here. Do you think this hats going to survive through the end of the series like it dream boats hat that matches her windbreaker. She. Suddenly she's Rockin this baseball cap with a high ponytail I was wondering if she opened a new bank account and they gave her a free hat or something like what what is hat come from? It's probably an official NYPD had official police colors nor was it branded? It's her official undercover nypd hat I liked it because without saying. So it serves a very practical, very real purpose. She's a woman with a lot of long hair and she's going to you know rocky boat lot of wind and shit. She got gotta tie that Shit Up. She's got to keep it out of her face. Yeah Hat. Yeah. Because she normally does run around doing her detective staff with her hair just everywhere, which also doesn't seem like a great idea but you know to each their own. There on this boat. Yeah and they are literally introduced to the scrolls. Here are these scrolls that we found neat Where's the dude that was with her the explorer lady I don't know and There were people lady I thought Guy Driving the boat was the same guy like he's driver and in other captains, right? Driver she knew that though right I mean yeah we're being we're okay. All right. So the boat driver. So the boat driver. I was assuming that was the same guy as the explorer. I would disagree because the lady state in her nineteen twenties explore clothes and he was in captain and he put on his boat driving. Maybe it's like win, he has to change. She's like, no, you're the boat driver now. So you must change out of your. Clothes on your boat driving uniform sir. Okay So, they're introduced to the scrolls and are talking about that, and then shit goes wrong as it obviously was going to do. Yeah. Hey. I need to talk more about this boat I. I'm sorry. Okay. Okay. Sure. Sure. Sure. This still takes place in one thousand, nine, hundred, five, right there were airplanes and that's a weird question because they get attacked by jets why the fuck are they on a boat I don't know I did a little bit of research. Okay. It can take up to seven days to travel by ship from the UK to New York City. It takes that many hours in an airplane. Yeah. What is boat for? Why do bow two votes or not to boat? That is that's a stupid question not boat maybe their league. Well, you see our nineteen twenties explorer costumes, we must do everything. Deep diving whose play. Maybe they don't trust airport security back then I'm on a motherfucker. Don't you ever forget. But they could have chartered a private jet. If they have the ability to chart. It seemed like a semi private big boat like that's what they're. They're called big boats Liz. You said Shit went wrong. Okay these like weird ships that apparently these are jets. On a ship being attacked by jet these weird jets, it can just like land helicopters do they don't need to like a? Runway unless. I'm really I feel like I'm carrying this one. Carrying it this week. I don't WanNa diminish your contributions to this episode. Okay. So at the same time that these jets are appearing, see the Gargoyles also appearing I, feel like anytime during boats like him and go do this thing. It's like, Hey, I'm GONNA follow you. Yeah. He's a jealous boyfriend. That's what's happened. She was bragging about doing a thing with Matt and he was like Oh. You're not doing a thing with just mad I'll fuck and be. there. So during the we see these jets appearing and Lexington is like, Oh, I know those are those are something something fancied or Harrier jets. Okay. Cool. Is that for real religion? Okay. Really do take off and land like that. They don't need your average runway interesting. Don't have lasers though obviously has to be Santos creation that these things have pugh lays you gotta stick a fucking laser. then. It's a good design change in that color scheme looks good quick question. We're the fucking lasers with the at who do you think you worked for? This is Santos Industries. We put lasers on Shit it's in the marketing material. Does Industries we lasers, don't you. CRAW THE COMMERCIAL SAY Shirt that says that The jets appear and shoot out all these windows on the ship. You Dream Boat tries to like Dhaka all the way and explore lady just kind of lays there like a possum playing dead like I don't think she was actually hurt or hit by anything she looked at dream about had to literally drag her and hide her under a desk. Or the console or whatever that's called whatever driving boats. We cut back to the GARGOYLES, right? Yeah and Lexington's talking about how he read about. Harrier jets in a like I'm cool and this is when Broadway fuck you fuck books realize way better. You can not be much of a reader. You can not even know how to read but to be like fuck books. That's a weird stance to take a weird take. He has always like if I ever got my hands on a book, I'd set it on fire and then shit on the fire like all right Broadway. That's. Weird. Yeah. It was so intense and over the top that like Broadway Buddy who hurt you with a book somebody beat him with a book like he beats people with Turkey legs. So bad people I guess we'll call them. Goon, squad his and her goons Yay get out of the Harrier. Harriers. Thank you and of course, have laser guns and they start fucking wasting fools on the deck of the ship. It's not something that you see in the show all the time just bad guys killing people usually it's assumed or things are thrown or like somebody throws a big rocket, a crowd or something weird like that. But these people on the deck were gunned down and the captain is in trying to get the coast guard and not having any luck at all you know who might have been a good addition to the escort team for this. The fucking coastguard. They dropped them off, they fucking drop them off I. You assume coastguard regardless think they would be then the boat escort you armed people on the boat. Cool. We will escort you in with our ships literal escort, not a couple of dufuses from the NYPD Matt with even doing during any of other. Where was he? No, he was on the boat we went hiding. He's like Oh this is scary. He missed the gargoyles again I don't know because he just kind of disappeared even see him the rest of this episode does he talk in this episode? I mean if he says something, it's so innocuous forgettable couches Matt. I think he might just be seen and not heard, and then he goes away in this fight scene he gets like knocked out or hit or something as soon as the goons here come through the door by the way, they blast the fucking door off the hinges with so much force that it takes out the captain like he's across the room and it blows off the hinges and flattens the capita she's as. Now I will say the goon squad they're kind of hot really they had like super defined jaws and like muscular and Straw, you really do have a fictional type. Learn so much about my friend lives here as we do the show. The woman with her like really like sharp hair. Really I liked it. I Don. The guy is missing an eye or something we didn't learn that 'til like the next scene that's true. But he's all like cockeyed and the he straight up as missing an I like he takes off his sunglasses and one I it was a weird choice not put an eye patch. It was also a weird choice to be a pilot when you don't have perfect vision I don't think that's allowed. I mean he's not in the military he's hired goon. He probably took an online course to learn how to fly a hair watching youtube videos only play Harrier jet. You know how Lexington learned from Video Game Airport Yeah. So The New York Police Department's escort team is fucking useless. Yeah. They do not do their job at all in fact I think they just make things worse. They really do. Okay. So they make Matt injuring boat look like amateurs and they walk out with the script they get them with no real effort. They got back to their jets and are taking off, and that's when the guardrail show up and thirty seconds to yeah and they saw the jets coming in but I guess when you can't fly, you can't really go any faster. That's true. 'cause I was curious I was like they thought they seemed to be in the air at the same time. Hudson goes after the dude, right? Yeah. Smashes through the window. Kind of blindly groping around trying to get the canister he knows what he's looking for. He's ever seen this before and he's got one is so he managed to get the canister. Yeah, and then apparently these jets have a weird electroshock barrier that's typical of Harrier jets as far as. I know from watching are going. You like just presses the button and Hudson gets electrocuted and falls into the ocean and he drowns, and then the last we ever see of Hudson he falls to the bottom of the ocean forever meanwhile, Goliath attacks the Lady Goon, and we know that he's no match for magic and laser, and so a jet filled with magic scroll covered and lasers he was doomed before you even made his way there. She blasts away but not enough to knock him out this time. I think it was just like swatting a fly out of here and she takes off she's got her scroll and as you mentioned, we see Hudson floating in the ocean and we cut away I will say it feels like it's less bouncing around than last time I mean the next few scenes contradict you specifically but overall yes. Yeah. I had a question about the gargoyles ability to stay in the air flying from the say the docs all the way out to the ocean. Now, we don't really know the distance, but well, established can't fly can't flap doesn't work. That's a long way to glide. To keep yourself airborne maybe because it was so stormy the they kept getting up lifts maybe the ocean I mean anything's possible when you just ignore physics. which gargoyles tend to do really. Yeah. Well, from there we end up in the docks. This woman is never given a name I'm sorry. Daniel named her lady exploring tin, which I think is a solid named choice. And she's given a statement to the COPS. And remote sneaks off to give her statement to the gargoyles she angle either like okay. This is deluxe all over it and yet again she's like. I know he's part of this but I have no evidence. That's not fair. You're not being a good police officer I. GotTa Say Shit and he's a bad dude but you are supposed to look for facts and look for an objective truth as your fucking job I hate to see that in dream bio because she's supposed to be like this top notch detective she's not doing a very good job detecting. No, she's not. She's literally did no work at all usually is looks go get them I can't you have to and then I think she disappears from the episode I might be right I don't think we see her after the scene well from there we go. We land on a beach. and Hudson fancy drinks. Sunny Sunny Beach Town Yeah Lounge maybe rita a novel. Paperback Book While Not Not Huson he can't read always spoiled it. He also can't be. All right. We'll get there. He's not dead he washed up on the shore and there's a beautiful house. I have to say that like kind of Gargoyles looking thing made me a little nervous about what was going to happen. I honestly wasn't sure if that was Macbeth's news resident. That's what I thought at first too because he burned down his castle last time we met him. We do know that this is a very expensive looking house very large right next to the ocean without a seawall that's just inviting flooding inviting destruction what he'd doing Yan, who would ensure this No one exactly. This is insurance talk with Linda. Where we go through fictional houses and talk about the insurance rates. I mean Hudson's not dead. That was the scene we've discussed it for far too long right. So then we jump to another giant mansion total different one. This is actually this little jumping around part to get a little confused and I had to rewind and rewatch casino after this where at another giant mansion, there's three really giant homes with the focus happening. This one is where the jets return. Yeah. This is their home base and you know when you're a jet, you're jet all the way. This gigantic mansion, which is even bigger than the previous one has an airplane hangar, which is convenient. When you have to Harrier jets, you have to house. Yeah. Did you notice that goon guy in addition to apparently being blind at this point should be entirely deaf because he was flying without any kind of cockpit covering. Ripped it off and he flew his loud fucking jet hundreds of miles an hour to his home base, and he wasn't wearing a head now and he wasn't wearing a mask for oxygen. Will it makes zero sense? Okay. Anyway. So we find out that this is when he takes off his sunglasses that he's been wearing at night and we see that he is missing an eye. Yeah, and his DEF. Yeah. Really. Funny. So Goon Guide tells goon girl that he lost his grow canister. Now, what would have been hilarious is if they leaned into the kind of hearing issue and if he just screamed all the rest of his lines like. Canister she's like, why are you shouting? It's like oh it was. The funny thing is talking about insurance. She made a joke about insurance 'cause she was like. I don't think your insurance going to cover that insurance is hilarious. The boss is now going to like losing the scroll man and stealthy EST Garden of them. All plays sneaks behind them without being seen and somehow makes a hole in her jet without being heard I guess maybe she actually had her ear protection on still she forgot to take it out and he's already deaf. So she had hers and so when he was screaming at her, she didn't even notice because she had her earplugs and she's like, oh, he's talking by fine. and Broadway just rips open the side of her jet and steals the canister like he's an sneaks on sneaks away grabs a Turkey leg and farts on his way out and his home free. Only. This is the third gigantic castle that we go to over to castle. Yeah. So the gargoyles that are still around burst into the castle, and there's just like islwyn whereas deluxe in our friends when is just hanging out updating his friendster page on like hanging out at the PC over in the corner. Maybe riding in his live journal. He totally has life journal Nineteen ninety-five. Yeah. Totally on the might be a little early might be a couple years too. Early he has some online journal. Yeah. He's definitely got like an angel fire website Geo cities. And goliath he has words for Owen. Let's listen to those words on a toss put Broadway where. I suppose that could be anywhere. He'll games take us to them. You should know I can't do that. Liberal find them ourselves. I had a theory I. Don't know if you remember when we discussed back in episode one, that Owen is secretly the main antagonist of the gargoyles program in. David Santos is just a robot. If you recall the Santos that we see in the coyote armor robot yes I maintain that all deluxe is our robots. Owing to secretly the bad guy. So He's here he's like. I don't know where deluxe is you're talking about man he he's not he's not doing anything wrong 'cause he's bugging row. Now that doesn't actually hold up but we don't know a my talks isn't really in this episode which was refreshing. Honestly Owen is just so needlessly evil here. Sinister face. He's got the pithiest pissy boy faces going. Hey I. know that you don't now what he doesn't. That's the most hilarious part is that I'm jumping ahead but he doesn't actually know what the fuck is talking about and he's just playing it up. He's being addicted Goliath for no reason. Yeah. He couldn't just be like dude, not us this week is deliberately trying to get under Goliath skin totally, and I don't know why just because he's evil but owens shouldn't be evil. He should be the accomplished to evil. Yeah. Unless he's the main antagonist, maybe he secretly angry that deluxe is actually part of something big right now Owen doesn't know the details. Really you know I can't tell you that because. Plans for today, we had plans. Poor old I. of course, I can't tell you because that would be against the plan. which we know there are my part in that plan is to be here. My blog. The plan, let's go to the hangar. Yeah Broadway thought he was attacking in the scene, but really he was doing something much smarter, which is unusual for Broadway. He is just running. He manages to like knock over some barrels to like knock over the goons and he's trying his darnedest to get out of there he rips a hole in the wall. kool-aid man's his way through the hangar. Gargoyles love Kool aid man. And it seems at that moment that it's working but he gets outside and he is immediately met by Mark Beth t how the music turns Scottish. Yes. I immediately clock that Shit and I was like Oh, come on guys like Evil Beg. But it's like the gargoyles theme. So I'm like, okay. No to self mcdaniel Meka, Gargle Bagpipe version of the theme zone. Yeah. Like I know anything about Baghdad you've seen. That's fake bagpipes are for you for that. All right. Mark. Beth shows up and we cast to commercial. 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Shack better just keep running straight maybe he thought that he could barrel him over but like obviously he's had a run in with big MAC before bake MAC means business. He knocked the shit out of like all of them right? Okay. So of course, big Mac he snatches on Broadway and throws him right now you sit the fuck down young man when Broadway gets back on his feet, he hit with not a grenade like a gas pellet. Big Mac throws a ball and then green fart clouds appear out of the ball and instead of trying to escape this situation Broadway just stands in the gas and then passes out. Yeah. Well, he struggled a little bit. He didn't try to run. He didn't try to serpentine ever gassed before been in close quarters with farts. It's a similar setup. Good. Maybe you've you've been around in McGowan. All those Dan Burrito. You. Listen I have no idea we're about to find out. So because Broadway officially the worst gargoyles and I'm including Dimona and decoys, mind goals, he basically hands over the scroll to Macbeth but there's a twist. ooh, he cracks it open would you believe it clip the scroll of? Seemed by my own hand. The second and final compendium. Second. Be. Useless even dangerous to read these out of order to you got to read them in order. But he says something specifically about sealed or my own hand. Yeah. which makes me really want to know like I don't think he's Merlin. But I'm like was he there when this all went down he? No Merlin like I'm so fucking confused about Macbeth more. So than I was the first time we met him and we were like he the real. Macbeth. Is He a time traveler? Is he magic of some sort like what the fuck is? His situation? Is he just a liar right talking to himself here so why would he say that I don't know I'm very intrigued by the character of Macbeth and it's just frustrating to me that they don't give us much. That is the nature of this program. But I feel like with him it's even worse because he's got some serious ties to Gargoyles if what he's saying is to be believed. And that is interesting because scissor ancient ties if the whole thing with Dimona, and him has any truth to it, which she has yet to confirm like we've never seen them in the same episode really interesting the hope that up. Okay. So big MAC is really disappointed with his hired goons because you've got to read these order you don't want to read the sequel before he read the first she's going to spoil it from here we go to Hudson. SLEEPYTIME, beach. Finally wakes up. I don't know how long he's been laying there like what the timeline is here, but it's real. At that time of night, it was happened. Can you imagine the sun came up when he was she'll just float in the ocean by Hudson got but he wouldn't trounce because he was he'd be entirely stone, but you'd wake up and we'll. Well he's on the beach but I'm saying he's he meets blind fella by the name of Jeffrey. Robbins he is voiced by Paul Winfield now I recognize the voice, but I couldn't place a name to it. Okay. I'm not going to get too deep into Paul Winfield's criminal mention to thanks to you. He voiced the mechanic in an episode of Batman the animated series one of my favorite M. programs of all time. Okay. New Mechanic was the person that maintained the Batmobile also to tie into our ongoing podcast within a podcast. Liz favourite show that she's never seen he played a starfleet captain in the nineteen. Eighty two film star Trek to the wrath of Khan. It's all about star Trek in this family. Everything comes back to star Trek Okay. Thank fuck that he met a blind man who just here's his voice and can't see him and the dog he likes him which makes sense because Bronx and him or best us and the dogs like Oh. You're a nice man. Yeah. That's very trusting. Feel like if I were ex military and blind, I would not be trusting no and he's ex NAM. Yeah and he's intense military. Yeah. Probably got some real fucking PTSD issues especially because the wars what made him blind. Well they just a sweet writer boy. Yes come in kind. Sir Implicitly Trust You. Well, then we jump to Macbeth's MC jet. So the goons has taken Broadway hostage until they were covered this girl. Yep that's pretty much it. We just go to his jet and then we leave the jet. Okay. Sure. Right back to Jeffrey Robbins under lead mansion by the sea. I. Guess You don't when you're lying you don't need lighting so yeah. Okay that's fine. I was like, Oh, it's really dark in this room. I was curious when he sleeps 'cause like he's up all night long with Hudson Yeah that does put into question. What time is it? He's out for a nighttime stroll on the beach. Yes. Finds The guy who is passed out on the beach not a normal thing to find. He even said the beaches around here aren't safe at night anymore yeah. He also knows he shouldn't out there because it's not safe after dark he's kind of doggy seeing eye dogs attack dog. Maybe. He's trained for both. Oh. Okay So they're having a discussion they're warming their old bones by the fire, and this is when we get Jeffrey Robin's backstory. This. Purple Heart for this. So busy trying to hurt a bunch of green kids through that. I didn't watch my step. Shrapnel. Never see it coming now Vietnam. The war so Frustrated that he hasn't been writing because he he thinks. His Muse has left him. Did you catch a look at the book that he handed? Hudson I got fantasy vibes? Yes. For sure. I, saw some sort in sorcery types. So Hudson is not really impressed with Jeffrey and his ability to quote right boobs we spoiled it earlier. But as it turns out, Hudson can't read actually seems really embarrassed by the fact, he can't read. Why do you think that he never learned to read I don't know like glides just sits there all sexy reading books with his classes And LEXI tells him off and he he bites the. Done. He's thinking Yes Georgia Martin tell me more about the super. Okay Hudson Camry that's what we're talk can't read and he's really embarrassed about this fact he used to be a leader Liz. It's a failure of the GARGOYLES education system. It is I demand reform. Why did some of these gargoyles fall through the cracks like I can understand maybe Hudson initially cut he's so much older i. don't know how old Hudson actually is you know minus the thousand years but now Amir call it a year after his been awakened I don't. Timeline is but he looks like he is a person that wants to know how to read. Yes. Maybe it's just so busy fighting vikings amy I mean that's very possible that it would have been like a a luxury. I don't know because I can read plenty of Gargoyles can read I think the Broadway one is confuses me even more because like if his rookie brothers learn to read why didn't he? Yeah. So back on big MACs Majette, we're still looking for the scrolls. Yes Broadway asks the question I. Think we've all been asked who was this Merlin? Just another stupid magician. He was a singular spectacle. Bearded old man who took a ragged boy and with magic and wisdom turned into the greatest king this will see. King with justice and compassion. Cup The tone remnants of warring tribes knit them into a country of beauty and civilization. Marlon always by his side until the trouble. So is big Mac King Arthur? No. Always. Not Wrong here. You know he says you know you describe it like you were there. Yeah. He at least sounds like if not king Arthur then like someone who may be was an assistant to Merlin or something like someone who was in the knights of the round table or? Something and he says, he'll by my own hand earlier. Yeah. The fuck. Is Big Mac. Macbeth is king because Macbeth there's magic also yeah. Because there's the witches this might be the best storyline that the show has offered us today. This should be the focus. Yeah. Like let's just do this for you know ten twelve episodes come on. Joe gives more. We go back to castle y God it's so funny Owen has moved to a different room and now he's reading the newspaper. Really he's bored. So puck news in the great. Hall he was checking his email own. Going to the office, I'll read the paper. This is his job. This is what he gets paid to do but how the fuck its deluxe. So one of my earlier guesses was correct because as it turns out, Owen is totally fucking with Gargoyles here I assume they were searching the castle for Hudson and Broadway showed up earlier like where are Bros. and owns like I can't tell you. So they just went room by room I mean, that's what it seems like here and they find and he's like I can't I can't hold any longer. Known of our Harrier jets or even here they're all in the shop. That's not us. We didn't do. Fuck you Goliath. Could think to fuck with Guoyou. Wrong Castle Bitch. was bored. He's like I don't have anything to do deluxe is on vacation. In the Bahamas, I'm fucking with the GARGOYLES. Why don't you go bug big fucking Nerd I. got your friends here also in the shop right. You would think that he has. Jeffrey Robbins from Batman the animated series did they say, Hey, the mechanic we need you to work on our Harrier jets they shot isn't his whole castle the shop. In, dire fucking building. You'd think he would have the ability to fix his shit that he created. I, mean maybe that's the case but that's not how it feels. Like I. dropped it off at the auto body shop and they'll be back later Harrier jets Meinicke right now. Been Me You could try macbeth that's Owens says so you the big Mac has his own jets are they in a club because initially deluxe hired Macbeth so they've worked together but like we don't know what they're working relationship is how close of an eye does still keep on him like do they just hire him when needed? Like are they in cahoots together like what the fuck is? happening big Mac is clearly independently wealthy. He owns at least two castle. You can just burn one down and say fuck it. so He seems like a person that deluxe would have already known about fucking billionaires know each other there's not that many of them they're in a club, go to the islands together and do we're Shit Yeah they have sex with underage girls, Yep yeah. Very real very dark place. I took it there. I just continued it. Yeah I don't know what subtlety means. Why don't you tell me about? Jeffrey Robbins House that's where we're going. Now let's go back. I like his house. So Jeffrey in Hudson, they're discussing literacy and immediately had questions when they're talking. Because you know Hudson's like I can't read and I'm tool to learn and jeff's like, Hey, man I didn't learn Braille until I was forty years old. So Vietnam happened ended in one thousand, nine, seventy, five. Yeah. So the only way this makes sense is that he was blind for years after he was discharged yeah and finally learned, Braille he does not look old maybe middle age I would put him at. I mean maybe fifty. Yeah, and this is ninety five. So this is twenty years after the war ended. Yeah. Assumed he at the most was thirty wall in the war that was what Vietnam was famous for other the young. Of than us, totally botching it. was. Yeah. Okay. Regardless I do think he went a long time before he learned Braille that's how it feels to me. Yeah. Because let me the ways as it was like, Oh, I was. You know I waited until I was I mean I guess I'm just project I waited until I was forty was how I'm hearing. Yeah but. Okay yet the fact that Hudson has been able to hide the fact that he's a little, right? Yeah. The other Gargoyles don't know no one knows whereas Broadway's. Read books can't do it by don't. WanNa. Yeah. Why would I want to spend time reading books? What I could live my life yo he literally said earlier. Here's why would I read books when life is exciting real life suit saying like, Hey, how are these two things? Related man whatever I read my books to get rid of life. In. The middle of this conversation Liz Hudson is like Ho, Shit. Sons about to come up I. GOTTA go. They've been awake all night. Jeffrey Robbins is going to be exhausted exhausted, and so he like I gotta go I gotTa go and Jeffrey's like, oh. My God I'm sorry I didn't mean to offend you. Probably. I just really got to go I have to poop and I don't like doing these strangers houses. legit. Like. Trots out, he does a little Gallup this old man gargoyles thing. And he jumps up onto the exterior wall. We're all the regular like run of the mill gargling gargoyles and he jumps up just in time and he turns to stone enlists. Did you notice the canister? Yeah not turn. And then real convenient for big Mac and I was like, does that mean that Broadway turned to stone on the ship which later on, we see the back in the ship and he is, of course, did the chains that had him did they turned us down that I did not notice pay attention actually it's a season one versus season two thing because we've seen like Hudson Sword and season to. Not Turn to stone in season. One things they held totally turned us down. We saw it with Dimona in her laser vaginal and his sword used to turns down. But now when the story requires, it does not that kind of inconsistency like, Oh, well, we needed to not be stone so it can't happen now like bullshit I agree good I'm glad good I was worried that you weren't going to. Do. So we see that the mix jet. Is Right there outside of just house the camera pans up in. It's right above it like they had to have seen Hudson run out or the very least. They will immediately notice the stone version of him even if they got there right after that fact yeah, and I mean they do jumping ahead but they pretty much do and it seems like the Jig is up there they are men goon and big Mac and how about we take a quick commercial break? Know How you're GONNA get there. All right. Diane remind me to get Cherry Pie filling. Come on man I told you I don't even like David Lynch. Yeah. But you've never seen twin peaks you might really like it. You never know there is absolutely no way I'll get into that show and prove it okay. I'm intrigued how I'm going to watch every single episode and Co host a podcast where we discuss all the ways in which I can't stay in the show. Yeah. That seems counterintuitive I. Hope it's funny at least the Cherry Pie we'll be. Funnier than that, I hope shut up subscribe to the Black Lodge Complaint Department on Apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcast and check us out at calamity gas DOT com. Okay. So we're back and we're still at the mansion and the ship has landed big Mac just like scurries on over and it's just like. Minded someone else's businessman Jeffrey. His dog is not happy and I don't think that this is how I'm not speaking as an expert but I thought the seeing dogs were trained to not behave this way because of how like a blind person would react and respond like if their dog started freaking the fuck out barking and scratching at the door like they're supposed to be able to lead in chill I don't know. But I think most of the time. Yes. But I think they are supposed to detect danger right like if you're blind and your dog didn't want you to Weirdos outside your door me like an old dinosaur Guy Yeah Okay But he's Nice Macbeth is not in his dog just happens to know your animal instincts and all that Shit trenchcoats. Yeah it's a fact Liz. APPEARS TO BE CLOSED WINDOW JEFF SAYS WHO's there and gets a response from. macduff Aka our pal big Mac do understand this reference. I mean you understand it before they explained later in the episode no, I should have picked up on mcduff. I was like macduff I. Bet that's 'cause I couldn't remember Lennox but I was like iron. Yeah. Lennox. I did not remember at all. It's probably been ten years since I've read. Macbeth. So I did not remember the name Lennox at all by like. Let's really. Then, they go through the trouble of explaining it later. And I'm like well fine. You're just going to tell us. Through the closed window, he's like, Hey, who's there and Lennox McDavitt Lennox Macbeth like they're having a conversation through a closed door it's class you can hear through it may and. It was just so dumb I was upset I'm like we're talking through the glass then open the fucking door and like he does what is this dumb scene and all right I just get hung up on the weird shit sometime. It's okay. Thanks you're. All right values fucking weird. But yeah. No. So He's like I'm just looking for my pal Hudson. He's my buddy jeff is like, oh, well, you just you just missed him. He's a little suspicious. You can tell just like. He's not he's not here. He just left get the fuck. Oh Yeah. Like I don't want you here. Yeah. Big magazine Oh. By what not going to interrogate him or anything? What if Jeffrey was lying? How did he see Hudsell? You mean because he walked right by him is I don't know I think that he did see him the dog was barking sorry make something up. Yeah I mean that's the only way. This isn't the dumbest fucking seen in the right yes I think that's what happened because he walks by and immediately it's just like Oh, you wink. Yeah. uh-huh is mine and takes the canister. He gets the cancer. Why didn't Hudson try to hide it? Not just Hudson not no. That doesn't turn anymore maybe not. Like put down his link between his butt cheeks or tail or something put it under his gut role you know. A little just. To protect it, it's not just like dislike dainty grasp on. You didn't have to fight it because initially I was worried that going to break Hudson's handle. was so nervous. But he just was like slight. That's why didn't you fucking insert that into your body I? Mean that would be really big. You don't know what he's capable of. It's true. I don't know what he's into or what he's been doing what he's been practicing. It's got at least a thousand years. Okay Liz we cut to the sun going down and we get to watch a gargoyles wake up because it wouldn't be the show gargoyles if we didn't get to see gargoyles wake up, but it's not your favorite one now but hopefully, it did something. Maybe just little tangles I don't know and frankly do not want to Hudson goes looking for the canister. Yes. Because after fourteen hours or so he forgot we do with aid I was holding it when I left but I kind of blacked out don't remember did I drop it here? We're the canister go Keanu he had it. I think he's just like Oh. Okay. Well, I could probably just double check anyway and like I guess he couldn't say Hey I turn to stone and now this things missing do you know what happened to all right fair enough fair enough jeff is like well, your buddy was here what buddy macduff UNEXPECT- Tuffy. So I dunno fucking Lennox macduff. The Scottish people I've ever met surely know Lennox macduff. Yeah. So he's like yeah. That seemed like a fake name to me because that's a character in the play Macbeth he pulls out a copy of it because he knows where everything is in his library just be like. miscount, Braille and. Like I. Don't know. I think it was a books in your living room books. No I'm saying I think some of your books in your living room like do you know if you're like I'm looking for this specific book? You can just blindly be here I mean, he can. He's blind. I'm just saying most of the time I do not know where my books are on my shelves listen maybe you need a decimal system do I really do it was in an order at some point in the night got fucked up see that's on you that your books on an alphabetical order by author that's not an US problem leave Geoffrey Robinson Miata. Your Shit I like my books to be like by type, and then if I have a bunch of same author, I will group those together but there's no any particular order going on. That's insane fiction books together and all my nonfiction books together and all of our comic books together and all the crashes together but his no. Booking, crazy. That's crazy shit. You're talking about I am rethinking our friendship. The book words is like the thing i. It was better organized than Jeremy fucked it up because they were filming something for blame a guy who can't defend himself right now. Anyway, he's like it's a character from Macbeth and Hudson is like Oh my God Macbeth. macduff yes. That is someone I know but not my friend. A Dick and Then, Jeff pulls out a phonebook. Liz. Do you remember phone books? Are you too young I? Mean they still drop those off I just got one like last week or two weeks ago and I was like this is going directly into the recycling. Why the fuck would I need a book? Yeah I'd joke is you're a baby? You're a literal baby. Years younger than you baby. The Fuck Outta here gargoyles right that Shit. have. Addresses listed to like I. Know like if you looked up numbers, you can find that but I don't remember phonebook. I remember there the addresses for like businesses, but I don't remember the addresses for humans. That's real creepy. It does seem weird that a point you could just look through a huge directory, find a random name and person's phone number and address like that's weird. Dead. Okay. So that brings me to my next point Liz. Why is a literal castle listed in the fucking phone book big Mac who may be a time traveler or fucking ancient man why is he even under a false name in the phone book? What is a castle? Have an address what? Okay. Jeffrey Robin looks in the phone book for Lennox macduff and finds the address of the tasks. Why hadn't macbeth made himself unlisted also that means it's listed as a residence. This castle in I'm assuming New York City and Secondary Castle. BECO- Castle. Listed in the white pages and it has. Three to four one fuck off I'm rich lane like it's got. Okay Jeff finds when x McDonald's dress in the white pages. It's a fucking castle. Let's go to their. Hey, let's do that. Oh God angry sweating. This isn't even hot angry. Broadway still all chained up big MAC is searching through his own grim grumbler orcre. We'll, and then he had the big. Pot. A cauldron culture. I'm trying to picture. Even pick fucking cauldron. He's fucking Macbeth of course he does. So he's like already do his magic. fucking said that he was going to only keep Broadway hostage until he found the other girl bt Dubs Oh, and he still chained up. All, that shit is happening inside the castle outside the castle. Goliath and the group show up. Yes. Because Owen knows where big MAC lives. Yes. After his first castle burned down, that must mean that deluxe big Mac, hang out I would guess you think they're on the same billionaires bowling team. Yes. Okay. Hudson shows up yet to Oh. Yeah. He just plops down like we're the fucking Yuban. Rodway. How did Hudson navigate his way too big MACs castle. He can't read street signs. We know he can. He was given an address, which means you have to be able to know directions. How did he do that from the Sky Mapquest can't read It was just established. All right up he shows up I'm. I was into this episode until this ending sequences like this is the beginning of falling apart for me. Like how the fuck that everyone did this castle yeah. We're making reading very important and the fact that Hudson cannot do it. He can't read a map and he can't read street signs. How did he get to this castle? Okay I said. I'm moving on. Moving. So big Mac makes himself little cocktail. Day He's gotTa, she has to have a scotch? And the goons and he's just like figuring it out to his goons and they run off to make these big laser guns appear Cheyenne fucking laser cannons. Damn Dude what are you expecting to happen here? I mean this I guess, but he was literally expecting to be attacked from the sky. Knows what's up? So quick what the fuck is it with people and when they're fighting like whether it's at waiver or whether it's at his castle here, win the people are fighting there just have no sense of the building or structures around them like they. GonNa fucking blast everything and if it hits golden great do you think he's mad that his goons are destroying his backup castle? Does he have a backup backup? Yes, he does if I had employees and they behave, this way would be so upset Oh and they'd be fired boy. I'll tell you what from a cannon. Laser cannon. Okay the gargoyles are taking out this episodes goon squad and you know they do with Gargoyles do this is not really what it's about. So like it's an easy fight to yeah, nothing big. We see the destruction of another ancient castle and at the same time down blow big Mac gets the scrolls open. Yes. Because I guess you needed to spell don't even know they just gloss right over why you can't just open the. He's just got to find a way in this other book to open this whatever he starts reading and it's like a fucking practical joke. Let's have a listen to this. It's hilarious. Skopje only boy when I I saw this once and future? King. Had I not known what his destiny held. I would have laughed aloud. What's this though young not yet formed his mind was open and eager to let this diary. Fox like Oh Merlin in his diary. It was nothing nothing at all I mean it's great history if that's what you're into. Magic while big. Mac is big Histov. Goliath makes the best entrance of the show so far. Just fucking drops in like a bullet drop kicks big Mac in the chest and like. Yeah and then he's like. He's like I understand reading I enjoy reading I'm, GONNA burn these fucking things fuck you what's going on here I don't even know. Big Like I mean whatever do whatever you want. I don't want it and then. Everything just goes weird I'm telling you this inning fell apart as soon as we got everyone got to the castle. So yeah, like both Hudson Broadway, we're like, don't do it. Don't do it. Let. So important like the history there that is someone who is actually they're telling their story it's important. And he's. Like. What is happening? All ends with big MAC. Get the fuck off my lawn. Yeah. What do be a fight? They're they're not gonna I'm done. You can keep it I want it get out his Broadway on anyone anymore I'm over it get out and they leave not like, no we need to do something about you know Madonna. Okay. So we're not fighting and no I don't WanNA fight just. Just, you know what man? And that's the scene. So you know in the sky hotson admits so he can't read and was like, Hey, buddy like if this is important, I will read the schools to you. Before we reach you motherfucker I'll read them to you before we donate them back to the museum and Hudson and Broadway like no well, read it ourselves as Waylon, how I don't know why he's Algorithms. Like. Suddenly, and then we're back. To. Jeff. And Jeff just gives us this very dramatic monologue about reading and how transports us to different places and it's very important and it is the lighthouse in the darkness something something something wasn't even paying attention as point. I'm like all we're done. Okay. I. Mean he he literally Says Books The lighthouses erected in the Dark Sea of time. I love reading and I was like what the fuck is. This I like books in ship shut up nerd. So. Our very last bit is Jeffrey in his house and the stuff about scrolls that he's been reading. Merlin Scrolls. Kinda gotten him his mind grapes juice and he's thinks he might have another book at him. So he he starts to write a book and they made it. They really made it sound like that. He writes like King. Arthur fiction. Yeah. So That's the end of the episode I guess we will go to. A. Hey there listeners are you into Alpha Male, bad ass leading ladies and happily ever after then checkout another great calamity cast podcast Dick the week where I chat with my co host. But everything we love in sometimes about both writing and reading romance novels. So grab a glass of wine get comfortable, and let's get down and dirty about romance. FIND IT ON CALAMITY CAST DOT com wherever you find your podcast. Liz We're. Back. We just finished discussing a lighthouse in the Sea of time yet. Did you like this one? The deal hurt me mostly? Yes. Actually like overall I enjoyed it and I, think there was aspects of that I think will be to really cool things. I feel like, I. Sing this song every single time like they didn't give enough like I feel like they're hinting at things like I still don't fuck you know what's going on with Macbeth and who he is and I do agree with you that the ending just kind of was weird and fell flat or something like i. don't even know like we were ramping up tall this cool Chin and then he was like fucking get out by and that seemed real weird and I'm also suspicious of that I also feel like there's more to the scrolls a journal data. Yeah. Like he didn't read very far. No, and there's two of them and he only looked at the little bit of the first. Paragraph of the first one is like I don't want this. Not GonNa just double check the rest of it. Great. Okay. I kind of share the sentiment. Exactly. Like I said, when we get to Macbeth's castle at the end, it is a mess. Yeah and I'm just glad that it's only like four minutes of mess. Obviously victim. After school special aspect of reading what is reading is important. No one is arguing that except for Broadway I guess, but even he is turned at the end. And Jeffrey didn't really seem that important other than to. House. Hudson who? Could've just gone into the sewers it didn't have to. I just want to touch more on the authority and Legend stuff which is finally into play like I knew came in eventually. Here it is. So that's cool. Hopefully, we start to get more focus on that. And I? I really am excited to see how the King Arthur stuff plays out in the end. To if they don't fuck him put Macbeth and Dimona in an episode together, we'll burn it down relatively soon. Shit's going. Go back in. Time. Find Him. Working on machine. Do I kill baby. Hitler or do I go yelled the. Ivanhoe Finder. Apparently in this scenario, the time machine is east. Listen I didn't. Out. Well. Well, well, folks we've made it to the end of another defenders of eight. I suppose we should think a gallon and his gase farts creating the interstitial music her throughout the show. 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Episode 203: Without Trust There Can Be No Clan

Defenders Of The Night

56:18 min | 3 months ago

Episode 203: Without Trust There Can Be No Clan

"We are defenders of the nights the most trusted source for top to bottom coverage of everyone's favourite mid-nineties animated program a Gargoyles. Finish voice in my gargoyles tonight I am your host Daniel Williams and I am your host Eliza. Pointed, ourselves with our thumbs because we're cool. Is that how you introduce yourself to everybody? Hi, I'm Liz especially on Mike when no one can see me it's me your Powell. Daniel. And yes, we do. Exactly like he's ingredient right then. Very cool. Yes. Yeah. Liz Today we are covering gargoyles season two episode three and it's called legion. This was a weird one. Weird one did felt very nineties and I can't wait to talk about it. This episode aired September Sixth Nineteen ninety-five. We're still doing the daily episodes thing. Do we think it's just GonNa be the first week of that. Sure I don't know. We'll see. It was once again directed by Parx. Three in a row and we've got new rulers pair of new writers, Marty, Isenberg in Robert scurr interesting in now Liz I. Don't know if you're familiar with me Eisenberg, but he's another guy that has spent a lot of time writing for animation. He's done Batman the a series he did did you ever watch the beetlejuice cartoon or you're too young for that? I ever watched it? Okay. Well, he did X. Men the animated series and Spiderman the animated series. He's done a lot of shit. Yeah. Those some really jumped out to me, Robert Skirt did a lot of similar stuff. It seems like these guys kind of all run in the same pack you know X. Men Batman Spiderman again, he did transformers beast machines. Did you ever watch that you mentioned that too I vaguely remember some transformer show anyway. So that's those guys. Now, listeners Liz walked in today with a new challenge that she wants me to share with everybody. Come up with these I have just learned that if defenders received just three new five star reviews this week. Liz as agreed to get a ham sandwich tattooed on her but. Listeners three five star reviews, and you can help make Liz tattooed dreams come true. Don't ask why she wants Hams on her hands. That's what people call bud. Maybe we should get into the episode I. think that's a good idea. So we start on a river were assuming the Hudson we're Dono I just made that up i. have no idea I don't even know how many rivers are too sure. There's the east and the Hudson I know that for sure. Somebody who knows New York way better than we do how many reside there I mean, what did they want us to do? They want us to look up an encyclopedia how would we find out this information I don't know I. Don't want to know. Well, I have to say that before the episode even started when they were showing like the previously on got excited. Because obviously, this episode was going to be focusing on Goldstone. I am really glad that the show didn't wait too long to bring cold stone back me too because that was what the last episode of the season Yes. So it's only been two inbetween. Yeah. So that's nice. I was really worried that it was going to be like end of the season again. Yeah. Liz this immediately raised a very, very crucial question for me. Why couldn't Goliath find de q he was pretty much right where he fell I know he didn't move. He was right by the bridge in a pile of he. He's just laying there. Feel. Like Goliath didn't even try dove in with his eyes closed. And came back maybe he realized he couldn't swim. Go got gathering horrible idea. You didn't know he couldn't swim until he dove and he's like Oh. This is harder than it looks can't fly down here. I'm so glide can he's known stingray? bummed me out. That was supposed to be your pal and he was right there. Right. So we see tq systems are a rebooting and I'm not entirely sure what is happening here didn't know either we go inside his brain or his head or whatever, and we get to see a couple other gargoyles that we've never met before I wasn't sure if this is supposed to be some kind of memory sequence or was he dreaming, it's really unclear but we don't learn until later on is that what we see in his brain happens in the future we see things that are going to happen for real later on. I thought it was flashbacks to things that happened in Scotland it is until mysterious dude gargoyles is like you can't trust him. He's going to steal your girl, and then that sequence actually happens when we go into Goldstone's brain later So that was weird. Yeah I know I'm spoiling stuff here and I'm all out of order already but it don't know what's going on here at all or in his brain memories dreams I'm thinking it's the future. No. Okay. Okay. I'm guessing because you see this woman and Goliath like hugging yeah, I think I think it's actually comforting her I. Think. That's just how gargoyles are. Just, intimate folk. Yeah. If this were in the past like I thought it was then he was Dimona I don't think it was anything scandalous but there's random asked gargoyles convincing goldstone like you can't trust your brother. He's after your woman it was very weird I do understand when what else has happened in this history here that he'd be like Oh. Yeah you're right. Goliath. Who Do something like that? We're not doing a very good job of describing what's happened here because we're like getting into the details of it. So we go into the memories or the dream, and there is cold stone and we see Goliath and then these two unnamed Gargoyles I don't think they ever get named one is obviously Colston's lady. Yeah. Partner is excited to see a lady who wasn't Dimona yeah. No kidding and then the other is just a guy and this guy, he's Being sneaky, he's being he's trying to turn Goldstone against Goliath or in the past this happened that much is unclear being very devious. You're absolutely right. That's the perfect word for it I don't know what to what end like. I don't know why he's manipulating. Colston like this. I don't get it either because Goliath seems like a one woman type of guy. So especially when that woman is demoniac see no, she would not put up with that shit she found out she's tearing your Dick. In. This dream devious guy has convinced de cue that glide is fucking around and so they fight and this is what I was saying a minute ago because we see this same fight, we see it later on. and The lady swoops down and she tries to break it up. He shoves her yeah I'd be unhappy. Yeah. That's not cool. I didn't know we were going to be dealing with partner abuse in this episode no kidding and he likes slams her against us. We're cliff thing I don't like it. We need a little bit of content warning here. Gargoyles Jesus. So then we flashback to current New York and apparently diku system has finished rebooting and he flies off he goes to a place called the Golden Cup, which is not a small batch artisanal coffee rose street, but a secret weapons facility which weird first off. But also they all are in a big room working on their individual projects and it's like someone with a laser doing something right next to someone like doing some weird gadgetry thing on his neck someone else doing this sounds really dangerous goes like shouldn't you have some sort of separation? They need cubicles totally. Safe cubicles need gargoyles proof glass because just crashes through and attacks. Yeah. And he's drawn laser fire from the armed guards and we don't know what this is about because we cut away. Has We do this season. Yeah, and jumped in the clock tower. Hey, there any wake they are. They did spare me the wake obscene. WE CUT STRAIGHT TO LEXINGTON GETTING SOME SWEET NEW TECH FROM DREAM FROM DREAM BOAT? Yeah. What is this is it looks like a telemarketers headset. Yeah. That is what it looks like but he is like he adds a virtual reality thing we've got a clip well, listen to the clip and it'll tell us it's called recap reconnaissance emergency cyber automated probe. It's just a machine for dealing with high risk situations just a machine. Just the latest in robotics technology hooked to virtual reality virtual reality the next best thing to being there come on. Like. You said it's a virtual reality headset do Hickey, I just always love it when Goliath learns a new term and he just sound. So confused reality. Watch the seem twice and I was just as confused as he was air. Well, I mean none of that matters because what stick you up to. Make these seen slightly longer and a bit more cohesive, and we could stop at the jumping back and forth I wonder if it's specifically the structure who's doing that, and that is interesting. 'cause that's been to episodes in a row now of a very jumpy, very jumpy. Deka still attacking the row story and. I think he was he woke up from a long nap and he wanted his cup of coffee do not talk to dairy queen before he's had his coffee I mean fair. Okay. So he's taken out his goons, right? Loose. Yeah and he's making his way to some kind of Cybercafe like. What I wish that is episodes weren't so confusing about what's going on as it's happening yeah. He crashes in to hack the system do some illegal download maybe getting on Napster I duNNo. I assume from the GECKO that deluxe is controlling him because jokes like he made him right. So I'm guessing that something he was rebooted and like had a mission or whatever detailed the him that he had delayed go follow like I don't know how Robo Gargoyles work. You didn't take that class in college. No, I missed that one. So you think that deluxe let him lay at the bottom of the Hudson river for three episodes for it's like, oh My CYBORG. Thing like he hit find my Cyborg on his iphone I think that's exactly what happened. Okay. All right. He's sister when juster rebooting on its own what I feel like you would have to have failed Gargoyles cybernetics. Set I wasn't smart enough to drop it. I destroyed failed. Because I don't feel like he would wake up and be like go break into this place I've never heard of before on his own you're not wrong but that's what this episode wants us to think yet, and that's that's what's confusing in weird about it I mean we're five minutes in I have no idea what anyone's motivations are or what's going on now I agree. So he breaks into a specific room and like plugs something of him into the machine to start downloading would ever information's on metallic attracts? Yeah. Two thousand to seven years in the future for this. Wow that's impressive. I don't know how time works. So the guard people are making their way in and you just like picks up the whole fucking tower and just throws throws the servants out. Like. There might have been valuable information and you know you destroyed man what if that was the second one you're supposed to get into like, oh, now wasn't just the one I didn't read the whole list of instruction. Well. As we cut to outside of the Rowe Street where nerds are being loaded into an ambulance because de Qaeda's went on a bully tear just beaten up these dorks out and Dream Boat in Matt a rolling out the recap virtual reality robot. This is their new toy. Yes. It's just a robot. Camera. Yeah. So Matt puts on this Goofy visor and he's like I can see everything recap sees it's just a isn't that like a closed circuit television or whatever the just a camera yeah. Instead of going to a screen, it's going to his goggles yet. There's nothing virtual reality about it right? It's not like he's in there with it. No I mean he can talk through it. Police and got a microphone and a Speaker Yeah. ooh, it's a baby monitor. Babe. Yeah. Exactly. It's a baby monitor on wheels. Attached fucking baby monitor remote control car. Yes. That is exactly what they've done and like future is now. It was a simpler time in the nineties. Did you recognize the logo? All right. All right. I can't remember the name of the company, but it's the same beetle logo that was on the tracker. Yeah. The deluxe put on Goliath and what does it episode three? Yeah. Yeah isn't that one of his companies is this is our clue like if you're paying attention, you know immediately who made that? Yeah. You would think that it would be known to the police what companies deluxe is part of and they don't like him. So why would they be like? Give me your tech fucking dream boat definitely knows because she's the one that found that shit out. She. Using this as. A giant logo on the robot hit Dream Boat sometimes you're really bad detective. It's hard to see. That's really hard to take in like Oh sometimes she's awful at her job also, did you notice like she's been really really Sassy to Matt this whole time I you might not remember that remember that. Yeah. I. Just I, She just seemed really short with him and just use a doofus doofus but like he didn't even do anything all that do facie yet and she was just like, okay. Thank. You just like off the badges of really aggressive towards all right Sassy comet down so. We move inside with recap and this police robot starts with tear-gas hazing. And we are in a particular political climate nowadays, and I started watching this at the very different Lens and. This is uncomfortable because cult zone is a gargoyles but. Voiced by a black man and I was just like getting all these. Stone is confused. He having some mental health issues. One might say because I mean the one thing that we really talked about is like he keeps having moments of clarity and then being where am I was happening then like is being controlled again. Yeah. So watching this scene in the summer of twenty twenty, it was really like uncomfortable. It is weird that the robot just immediately throws tear gas like there's no hesitancy and I guess like I even tried tear where they teargassing this Cyborg because at this point Matt is convinced that there are actual gargoyles but so far is only seeing the robotic ones he. Did, see cold stone in glide fighting in the street he was there. Okay. So he's seen the real deal. Yeah. Remember when the oil's came out of watching Bambi and they were throwing hubcaps and stuff like he's he's seen most of the gang. Yeah. But he's seen this one specifically who shot lasers out of his arm. So I you know what Matt's do Fus and fuck the police moving on. Well, I'm not at work because obviously D. Q. is going to be able to take down a tiny little robot that can't do much of anything launches countermeasures by shooting recap with an arm later. Yes and I guess. This is the virtual reality part because take shoots recap with the laser we cut outside were Matt Screams When he was hurt by the laser, you mean to tell me that this robot was built with its own pain receptors and then those are somehow connected to the person wearing the headset I was thinking it was more like somehow made his part of it short circuit in like shocked him but. that. Doesn't make any sense. I think magister the little wiener and he got scared it's like. I've definitely done that when something scares me, I'll say. That didn't hurt I. Know Scared my heart. and. Then deke throws the robot through the wall like fuck you other robot and then he goes fruit. flies off luckily glass and Lexington were nearby they track him Goliath he gets on national move rookery brother alive. Like, we're all you know. We are all born in the same rookery like what does it? What does it take? Did I think it's a different generation Oh you? Actually born to go. The same clutch of eggs. Yeah. They say Mommy. So is what the fuck is going on I. Don't even know surprisingly they don't get into a fight were nice. I was shocked me honest. They're happy see each other and this is when Q. is having a moment of clarity. Glides is like, Hey, buddy come back to the clock tower beer friend and Lexington is like a glass. I don't mean to like step on your toes but is a good idea. That's really funny like Goliath is trying to have your tried to befriend a stray cat he's A. Still. Coming. It's five. Do you want to come home with me? To go home and let's like, Hey, cats clearly gary. Just a fun little thing. I, was doing. and See I love it. So. Glad. Is like fuck you on charge and he brings cold stone to the clock tower which you know on the fence about whether or not that was a good idea. You might be a good idea. My immediate thought was, oh, God d Q. is owned and created by deluxe is GonNa finally know where they live now they don't bring it up here but that absolutely makes sense I didn't even consider that that's going to say, yeah. But there was never anything that came up like you said didn't seem important in this episode reasons. So then we're in the clock tower. And, obviously, all the youngsters are like. They are a little uncomfortable Tibi ferrets like okay like we've seen this dude attack us and we know that he is only alive because of Dimona and deluxe. Yeah. So I mean I think it's warranted there little little onshore I. Think. Brooklyn is one to talk because after getting Bazooka. Dimona. He fucking goes back and he's like Oh hey, maybe we should team up and magic goliath remember that remember that Brooklyn we all fucking make mistakes man. Barely in this episode. Yeah. But he's one of the no I I know this is like the Goliath in Lexington. Why does the LEXIN didn't get a lot of players episode because used Tuck Guy? He's the tech guy he is the Donatello Hudson on the other hand is all over cold stone is like Hey Buddy give us in the middle. Yeah. GRANDPA. Hudson was into it. pop-up Hudson Anyway. So suddenly de cubits really confused. Yeah and he doesn't know where he is and he isn't sure about gladys his cyber is it's like blinking weirdly yeah and he freaks out and takes off and everyone's confused except for Lexington Yeah? How about we take a listen? was that all about each me think something's wrong inside his head. And I know how to find out what how, how do you know how to fucking fix? This would even know how do you even know what's going on? Let alone fix it. He watches a lot of youtube videos I guess. He's got a subscription to popular mechanics may yeah it's going past what I'm willing to believe Lexington is capable of yeah. It was one thing when he was able to fucking bill motorcycle in like a day he rebuilt a helicopter like six hours and now he knows cyborgs. Yeah you know he's asked. Mart. As now like I'm GonNa say no and I don't like that they're writing him to be so super intelligent lazy honestly, and it just doesn't make sense. So D Q takes. Off and he's just like panic flying. He doesn't know where his head and he doesn't know where he laughed and he gets somewhere. He just drops out of the sky. I can't remember if his little jet boosters actually shut off or what happens but he drops out of the sky and Goliath and Hudson. They were kind of trying to catch up figure out what was going on. Yeah. We'll get the weird blinky I again from D. Q. and his voice goes super robot in e. Right this is the point that I was thinking that deluxe was doing something like override his system turns out. I was wrong by that's what I was initially thinking like deluxe was gaining control of him again or something. Well, this is when the series ends because he blasts Goliath in the chest and as we all know Goliath did not take a laser blast to the chest and he dies in the show's over cut the black jumped too bad well. Yes, you're right fine. We'll be right the. A hunky hero and a fantastic leading lady to be brought to live with love and loss cast indulge in radio drama filled to the Brim with romance laughed and all those wonderful moments become a new relationship and don't forget those delicious sexy part Romance Novels Fun to enjoy. Season One of eleven is available now at calamity cast dot com or anywhere that you can find podcast. And we are. We are at our favorite Bruce St the Golden Cup roasters. So the police escorting helmet goon to a police cruiser really know why they were arresting people. Maybe it's actually like illegal thing that's going on in they're like they're like, oh. Cool. We were answering last call but here we are catching this illegal operation who knows it's hard to say these are different helmet goons from deluxe his helmet goons because we learn later on again I keep jumping way too far head but there was some corporate espionage going on. So. Matt Andrine Mbo are doing detective things like burning hand on hot metal because Matt is an idiot disturb. What is Johnny Mak can only detective if he touches everything. He's a very tactile learner. Matt you're kidding you're fucking fingerprints everywhere no don't worry I burn them off. Lexington Kohl's dream boat using their little headset thing. Yeah and we get to learn a little bit what's going on with you? Let's take a listen what's up NEX creature. You're looking for his cold stone I. Guess that witnesses say he tried to steal data from these files, but he picked the wrong computer tap into was full of government defense specs for top secret weapons. So they protected with a powerful new computer virus capable of wiping out any unfamiliar program it infects that explains a lot but look how fucked it Lexington know this because he hacked the system. He's fucking thirteen thirty, seven Lee Hacksaw. Liz He's rolling with Angelina. Jolie. I feel like Lexington be scared by Angelina Jolie especially in the nineties. Deka was trying to steal files. Yes. WOULD IT TURNS OUT BUT WHY? Like I feel like I'm so lost? Yeah. This episode we said at the beginning it's weird and it's messy I just don't feel like the plot makes sense all Liz it doesn't. Even a little bit like on the surface it's fun. But if you think about more than five seconds, you're like, this is nothing they're just like let's do some cool weird techie. Shit what happens here to D Q as it turns out is basically his brain gets hacked twice because whatever the fuck To this facility it to begin with, and then once he gets in there and he tries to steal the files he gets hacked by government malware. Yeah. So here's the. Weird virus thing going on and that's why he keeps slipping in and out of himself in doing weird shit. Okay and it's a good thing Lexington knew that and yeah, that's Lexington. So from there, we move back to wherever it was the DU landed and he is having a meltdown. Yeah. From not knowing how he got there too trying to laser blasts Hudson Goliath some more and it's really sad to watch. Yeah whatever he's experiencing kind of looks like a mental breakdown or PTSD or something. You know where he just kind of have a break from reality and moments of clarity, and then you're like Oh my God like what did I do I'm so sorry I'm so sorry and then immediately snapping back to the aggressive version I'm glad to Goliath and Hudson aren't trying to fight. They're like, whoa man I don't know what's going on and we want to help you not like let's stab him with our swords and throw them off a cliff because initially they were ready to fight. When they saw that he was going back and forth between regular him and evil him, they're like, okay. Something's weird is happening right? They're playing defense they're not trying to do harm. They're just trying to protect themselves. Yes. This bit is good. I don't like how cold stone got to his problems. It is having right now but seeing Hudson and Goliath deal with him. I felt like that was good writing. Yes. Good I feel like whenever they actually utilize Hudson. It's good a lot of the Times. Yeah. It makes sense that he's got more years under his belt. He's not that he's seen this before, but he has experienced share dealing with all kinds of weird situation. Totally. Keeping. An open mind to what's going on and showing little bit of compassion That's cool. I agree the younger ones though not as nice to be fair their main experiences but d cue have been he attacked us last time we were around him like a couple of episodes ago and did they know him? They had to have known him right especially if he was this close with Goliath. So he was there as glide and went looking for the Vikings. He was one of the last people the Goliath spoke to before he left. So they actually know him at all they do which doesn't make any sense because of course they would know him. Yeah. They all lived at the castle together at the same time. Right what makes this kind of hard to connect with that is we don't see Goldstone in the awakening series at all. It doesn't make sense. We don't see him there because he was clearly like just out of frame right? Like someone cropped him out of a picture. Like no, that's my tail. Lem Right there. That's my it's okay. So the Brogue oils they go searching for D Q in Hudson Goliath and I mean it could take all night. There's this entire city to go over I mean where? There's lasers it's over there. Yeah. Yeah. There's just like lasers. On an island so they went back to the island. Not, Barnum. What luck. Yeah. He still in the midst of freak out. and Broadway just like, Ooh, like tackles him down. Yeah. It's pretty aggressive because he knocks dbq. and. That's not good for your brain. Even if you are part robot cuts permanent damage you're talking about and he's already going through some shifts. So at this point, Lexington knows exactly what to do. Cool he read dicky's manual, right? It really is like he did read his manual because he takes his little headset thing and plugs a directly into his neck. How did you is what that is four? That's the audio out. He's using Q. Like an old school ipod. He just wants some sweet tunes think no guys I need my thinking music. He's got a hacking mix that he really wants to play. I wouldn't be surprised. So while this cool weird stuff is going on with the hackers Angelina Jolie shows up. We cut back to the GODDAMN roaster again. Yeah and Matt is doing inventory of the recap equipment. And some who are missing? Yeah he realized something's missing. Just see dream boat behind him being like. I don't. Know why? Why would they be missing as? A. must've taken a and he's like I go. So when he was a good thing, I have this Handy Dandy GPS finder on. This is look like Oh fuck. How did she not know that that was a possibility that these things were trackable I guess because it's Matt's tweeted not hers she knows the company that made this also made trackers. Is. Dream drunk on the job like what's happening here? I don't know this is really out of character for her yeah. Okay. Well. So from there, we jump back to the rooftop. All the GARGOYLES are and Lexington is already like right. I'm Nosey Equipment I'm going in and glides is like exactly you know the equipment you need to be out here humanity the equipment I will go in and you'll make sure that nothing bad happens what dude who is going to run this if not? Lexington goes in and they're like. I don't know. Should we stay? We don't know what to do now and I like how they all. They didn't move called stone. They just did it on the rooftop know it's probably safe. Yeah. Hope it doesn't take until morning you dip shits. Yeah. Hey, disclose don't turn back to stone discount still get to enjoy the sunrays on face. I don't know how that work you just part stone robot. that'd be so joyful for oil to be like the sun is fucking awesome. I need. So bright out. Anyway. What what what the Hell's going on here they're going inside the computer. The most nineties shit ever accused mind. Palace. Literally. Come on the castle my palace to thing the remembering stuff I know and it's also a literal again it. Boy Sometimes, she just disappoints. You're, so clever Daniel. To. All right. So here's what we finally get a believable virtual reality situation. Now like that other shit earlier in the episode where it was literally just a closed circuit TV feed this door kicks. So, we're in a barren land there's the mind palace in the distance. Okay. As goliath begins to make the trek to the castle, the ground opens up and Kasulu rears his ancient tentacles and prepares to strike from the Nether World Scary Mine Palace. It's terrifying. Then a bridge appears. Yeah. Who is controlling his mind palace? The virus. The virus is like A. Never mind going you find go ahead. Here's a bridge. Scared you with tentacles but I guess it's kind of cool that like the actual virus is like a monster destroying shit but. So Goliath, he strolls up to the castle where Goddamn virtual deluxe appears to talk goliath second time. Monty python the holy grail. You know what don't act like A. Reference Daniel isn't I actually do get a lot of them. You don't I know. But one, I understand the holy grail the French guy. I will taunt you for a second time. Let's go to an advert. Good Transition. Thanks for listening help others find our show by rating and reviewing on I tunes checkout calamity cast dot com for even more content and follow us on facebook twitter and Instagram to get in touch and let us know how we're doing. If discord your things join our server. If you like what you hear and you want to help keep the lights on, consider becoming a regular calamity cast contributor on patriotic or if you'd like to make a one time donation, you can do so at pay pal dot me forward slash clarity cast. We appreciate your support and your donations truly make a difference. Everyone we are back we are in cues, mind grapes, and. Like we said before the break it's fucking deluxe. Yeah. Okay. I'm really confused by this. So he's giant. Yeah. I. Apparently don't understand this episode because I like I'm just kind of annoyed that it ends up being connected to deluxe. Yeah like Goliath couldn't get a new enemy if his fucking life depended on it. Yeah. So it's not really deluxe it's a computer program inside of. Mind that sounds and looks like deluxe because he's a fucking narcissist. So of course, right? Apparently though he's not the most pressing issue right now because he's actually here to explain what the fuck is going on and it's about time someone did yeah let's take less than okay. Goldstone was created by a combination of science and sorcery. The Magical Energy has merged with the cybernetic systems that make up his mind. My primary directive was to enslave cold stones because that opposes will, but the viruses stopped me. Can See. Slowly, devour everything. So as we kind of hinted at earlier, the Khufu who's he? What's is virus nets, the malware from earlier that we talked about the government hacked. Brain, because D Q hack them first. So fuck you kinda thing. Yeah. It was an anti hacking hacking and it's GonNa destroy all of decoys brain space. Yes. Yikes. So goliath you know is getting trapped by the virus it's wrapped around him like tentacles or whatever and tugging out just then three gargoyles come out of their stone they wakeup. Yeah. They had to give it to somehow right? Yeah and so we see D- Q. and nameless lady and Rando Dude the dude who we've seen this whole time is the one who keeps trying to convince d q glide has vowed this guy is clearly veal yes and this bit of the scene plays out like the opening sequence when we go into the dreams lash memory or whatever, and that's why I kept saying that because plays out nearly identical to what we saw earlier. So this is what made me wonder is d q clairvoyance you know how did he look into future? Yeah it's all very confusing. Yes. Not Clear at all but this is when we learned that he was created by the stoned of multiple gargoyles and that's why the The lady and the other guy apparently trapped in his brain for with him forever and I made a joke about this in episode thirteen about like how did they know which parts were cold stones? Yeah. Because it's just a big pile rock and they didn't as it turns out, they took random rox. Doesn't. Goldstone have like a boob or one of the ladies horns. Maybe it's all on his head and it none of it's actually a physical missed opportunity. I guess they would kind of give away the line on the when they make Kohl's down is not like they had this in mind because if they did, they did not flesh the idea out enough. So yeah, he's made from different parts of these various gargoyles in. It's kind of impressive that they only use three rate. It only took three and he's like seventy five gargoyles in there. So League gargoyles jumps down to greet Goliath they're hugging and greeting each other and everything and the other gargoyles still like sealed stone go I is after your lady. Give it a rest. Glide is just a hugger. Yeah. Some people are huggers me I am not do not touch me. In the real world. And goliath are covered in like magical electricity I don't know what this is supposed to be. No fucking clue. So dumb like is that what hacking looks like in the gargoyles universe? Bathed in magic with a K. I. Don't know maybe that's because like he was created between a mix of magic and science. So maybe that's the magic Plana role. That works for me. LEXINGTON GETS A call from dream O on his headset because Matt is hot on their tail. Yes. He has picked up the signal of these stolen recap gear and Oh, it turns out they've been on Ellis Island the whole time. Where they always go sometimes it's liberty and Liberty Island, but they're like right next to each other I don't know the geography of New York City refused to look it up on Google maps same I have to assume it's too little islands right next to each other and they just kind of one or the other. Yeah. So Matt's tracking the stolen gear like I said and they called in a swat team. Yeah. Can they do that I don't know because he's just a detective and You know dream would have been against that. So I'm thinking Matt thinks that she's full shit she's compromised. He's seen that she clearly knows more about the gargoyles she's letting on. So Matt went to captain. Pantsuit was like I, need a swat team they stole my robots stuff and she's just fine. Go Away is the robot that important now that's what I don't understand like I'm sure it's expensive for the team's not even the whole robot it's just a headset he really disliked the shades. Well. Mike Atherton tries to get Goliath to wake up because they gotta Boogie, and when you try to fuck with the magical glowing cargo oil, you're going to get electrocuted. So they just have to stand watch basically and hope that whatever is going on inside of cold stone gets resolved before swat shows up with automatic weapons. Yikes. So then from there, we go back into the mind palace and the nameless lady who Daniel has apparently dubbed lady four weeks. WHO's better lady four local. Is trying to keep glides from falling because he's still has the tentacle things wrapped around in from the virus and being tugged, and she's trying to get them to go up with her and it's failing but they're holding on and comes down and. Aggressive consent of make fun of her it's weird. He's like. fucking. Not that it's not that explicit, you know we don't really know much about this woman that all but she convinces d Q. US I believe to trust her here. Let's take a listen to what she does. Blind I know why you come to his defense my love for you is eternal. And Goliath is not your enemy but your brother and true friend he has deceived you. He has set you against Goliath as to a thousand years ago. Try to remember. Memories are clouded. Why should I trust you if you can't trust me? Then, trust your heart. Okay. Four Loko Convinces d q everything's Okay Hey I love you baby. It's fine. We're goliath tonight we're just friends and then here comes fucking earring gargoyles and he merges with the deluxe software. Yeah. Like what is happening here? So earing and the deluxe software are already part of. Internal System, right. So is this an accident? Is this due to the virus being involved? Is there like some sort of mutation going on so to speak or is this just a thing that deluxe software can do whenever it wants to override or merge or whatever that seems really dangerous for cold stones future made me wonder like this Google even exist in real life or is this like a deluxe created thing? That's a really good question because what they tell us in the truth are not often the same. You know the L. is a hearing. Oil is part of de q because of being made from different parts and whatever. But dogs is also in the Torius Liar. Yeah so That's a that's a fair question to ask, Liz. Yeah. So did you ever watch power rangers eligible bed? It was never a preferred show in the house. So the earing deluxe gargoyles hybrid a get gigantic. Yeah. Just like in power rangers wherever for whatever reason the monsters always grew really big. Yeah and they easily dispatch dairy queen and Goliath because it's lady four Loko that urine in Gargoyles truly after he says merged with me sister. What Yeah? and. Specially like a sex thing, I don't know. But like I understand what they're rookery brothers and sisters, and all of that they're not actually necessarily brothers and sisters. But if you really come onto woman, please don't call her sister mood with me sister and that's my go-to line. With. WORKS EVERY TIME Enough okay. Routes. Yuck okay. So that all happened and we don't even know why like what? He has no motivations he just he wants to. Binge might see what this is like i. feel like all the stuff would matter more to me if we'd literally seeing these characters ever before. Like, I have no connection to any of those that has a lot of the problem with Gargoyles. In general we only know the main characters in then they bring in these secondary characters that seem like there's a real importance and they they ascribe all of these are important aspects of their relationships with the Gargoyles, but it doesn't feel genuine. Yeah. It's a huge flaw in this program in general. Yes. So all this weird flirty or whatever the fuck is happening. No. No thank you meanwhile back outside the walls are trying to redirect the police force. Yeah. Leave that area alone go away. Shoe. They actually trying to seek votes they just trying to distract I can't quite recall. I, think just distract. Back, inside of de Cue's mind graves come to a head. Get it. All right ear goal is trying to convince four Loko that they're totally in love why fight it baby just merge with Oh She's like no, she's not having any of this shit. She bites his big stupid hand like an angry catch because. As someone who has blood? Yes, very accurate and you know that feel yes. So four Loko know she gets her teeth on earring bites down hard and he's like ou out. Because the suck on the wound is like Shit stings, and that's all of our tiny baby goliath and d q they're free they scatter. Yeah. They scare off. and. Hulu comes up and grabs hold of giant earing deluxe Gargoyles, evil ironman hybrid, and they pull him down to the Netherworld of de Cue's mind space. It's all weird. Are they still in dairy queen though like as are they future problem? Well, who knows every everything's possible? Yeah. The end here which we are fast approaching is very sad but in the meantime, the viruses literally destroying everything inside dairy Queens. Mind Yup and I was worried that this is the last the we're GONNA see. Dairy Queen. Because his mind is basically falling apart right right. We'll be interesting to see if he comes back or not like I guess we could search and see if this actors in any more episodes but that's cheating I don't want to cheat so okay his brains are falling apart dairy queens like Goliath you have to get the fuck Outta here man you gotta live so all glide has to do is pull a plug like what does he have to do to get out I don't They don't really show it. He just is like now I'm free. Yeah. Okay. All right. So goliath is free and four Loko Indecu we're going to fight the virus. Yeah. They decide they. They love each other. So they WANNA stick with each other and if that means the virus kills them both at least they have each other. Oh, they they lose is ultimately what happens now we're not quite there yet, but that's action. Goliath gets out and that's good because the cops are like on their ass yeah. Matt is all excited. He's like. I'm right on top of them GONNA catch him. Yeah. GOING TO BE D- Q. and he's so excited he finally you know it'd be like see. Oils and the headset is there and there's just like a rat scampering over. Dream Boat. It's just like the looks like a route to me. The. Loch ness monster you've beaten me once more exactly. Man is a doofus. Yes. Then we cut to castle wider got utterly confused. Yeah. Something something deluxe was behind it all along. This is the corporate espionage that I brought up. The deluxe was stealing coffee secrets government secrets about about coffee and something something computer virus. Yeah. So he didn't actually get any of the secret, but he's like. Secrets about specifically weapons I think and he's like it's okay to the plan worked out this way because now he has all this information about the virus and he's like this is the deadliest virus ever existed and now it's mine. Maha door yeah I don't know I just like saying that's even a worse weapon. Yeah. I mean unless you could make like a really powerful poisoned coffee bean. So does that mean that there's someone who works for the government? WHO'S SMARTER THAN? Deluxe. They came up with this cool virus and deluxe had to steal it instead of coming up with it on his own. Yeah. What this show is showing us without telling us is that there are a lot of people that are smarter than deluxe. He's smart and Reggie smart and rich, but he's not the smartest guy he just either hires people smarter than him or steals from them. Yes. All right. What this show desperately NEEDS IS NEW VILLAINS ENTIRELY UNRELATED TO DELUXE HIS PLANS That conversation last week tail. Yeah. Because it always goes back to them even with macbeth you know the like everybody is attached to deluxe in someway just he's not that. Great. Yeah. But we have our very lesson in the clock tower. Did they just bring? To sit in the corner and the clock tower seems like that's kind of the vibes him getting. Yeah. I mean they would have to because otherwise his body would have been laying there. Yeah. I, mean, what else do you take him back to deluxe fuck that now but this comes back to your point than earlier where deluxe has control of d Q. So now he kinda has to know where the Gargoyles live, right? Yeah, which isn't talked about yet I'm sure that will be a thing we go into dairy queens consciousness to see him flying with four Loko hand in hand. Over like a sea of Catholic virus. Yeah. They're love will last forever but they're trapped in his mind. They can never land down they land they die out how do they do that? It's really. It's fucking depressing. That's the end the episode. Well. Let's cut for one more ad break I guess and then. Come back and talk about this a little bit more. I'm Adam and I'm Daniel we've got a great show in the clammy cast network. It's called the Black Lodge complaint department, and every week we are going to discuss everyone's favourite show when peaks. So that sounds terrible Adam and I've never seen twin peaks. That's the point listen along as we go over the entire series from the perspective of a longtime fan and a person that. David Lynch for no good reason. It's GONNA be Great. Yes it is. So subscribe now to the Black Lodge complaint department on Apple podcast Google play stitcher and check US OUT AT CALAMITY DOT com. And we are. Kids was a weird on. The. Mess. Ended on serious low note. was. What the hell man with this did you like this episode No. The whole concept like a again like I said, it's a very nineties thing. But the whole concept of the computer going into the computer I think is interesting. I just don't think anything about this episode really made any sense to me. I would agree I. would agree also that it didn't make sense to me I agree that it makes sense to you also didn't make sense to me. I'm not used to being confused during an entire episode and I am very much as I have a person that like I want to know what's happening as it's happening like I don't like the big reveal. This entire time? Oh, she's like I don't get it white and I was like I don't think this is on purpose. I. Think is just about done well. It wants you to assume that deluxe is involved because he's involved in everything. So I don't know that's boring. We've done sixteen episodes where he's been the villain in every single one. Yeah either directly or indirectly I'm just I need some fresh blood I, keep saying I need a new villain someone that's not tied to what we've seen at what type of villain do you think would want I want I would love someone that would make. Like turn into a villain who is justified because you know he's a cop, they are a menace and he's also their best friend detective partner in Matt's going on a secret crusade to like bring them in or take them. With. Dream about and the GARGOYLES? Yeah. That'd be really interesting. They're showing that a little bit more now, we wouldn't episodes without any MAC is he spoke her rolling what's happening but I we've been seeing that more and they've been slightly plane on the lake him trying to prove the existence of the gargoyles like actually see them up close and all that, and I can't tell if he hates them or is intrigued by them or what exactly he's at but I feel like that is something that they should be developing more angry. It's like what would do if he found a big hit? Liz I was really excited to see new gargling. ooh On for them to be basically figments of. Imagination really pissed me off. Yeah. Because I feel like there's no room for developing that then. They're stuck in his brain castle. Cool. They don't even have fucking names like I have no connection to these girls at all I gotta assume these are one and done characters. Why would we ever see them again? Right? They don't have physical bodies. So you had mentioned in the past episode about how the animation is a lot worse I? Feel. I. Was a little disappointed. Especially there were there were so many facial expression things happening and I feel like it wasn't as crisp as things that happened in season one was looking walkie. Yeah. I wasn't sure of because it was in their dreamworld thing that was part of it or are especially knows when they were. In the room castle. So not a good intrigue into season two. I wonder when we feel this way about an episode, how much they have to do with the director versus the Writers Yeah like an animation? What do we pin that on? You know because we liked episode one season two. And last week's was okay I feel like season two for me is like an assessment, a decline. Yeah, but there's so many episodes in season two I'm not super worried about it, but the first three has gone down in my personal enjoyment every week. So that's great. But I wonder, is it because of the writers like who has kind of final say on a story? Yeah I know this is what I'm trying to say because if all had the same. Director and I've had lots of different feelings about these three episodes. So maybe it has nothing to do with the director as far as the story Quality Yeah Sam, curious animation director like do they work with the voice actors? She'll like direct their performance has got to be part of it but how do they deal with the animators? No no out of animation receipts. I don't know that might be worth some research. We're not big on research on defenders of the night, but that might be worth looking into. Yeah. Maybe next week we'll have initial bring it back. We'll tell all of our listeners who themselves armpit research. Any final thoughts here's open for next week yeah. No kidding. I'll. Right. Well, we hope you enjoyed this week's defenders on the night as always. 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Gargoyle and Another Dream by F. Leonora Solomon

"You're welcome to the hot a Smut you can find on the Internet and a bit of satisfaction. This is the masturbation Monday podcast a weekly reading being of some of the sexiest hottest muster Roddick stories that celebrate the Best Damn Day of the week masturbation Monday usually dread Mondays. We've got what you need and hey he needs to get yourself off while you listen. We won't judge here's your host to one of the smoothest voices around John Brownstone ready and eager to bring you a weekly dose of erotic six months this week we have two short pieces by F.. Leonora Solomon Gargoyles and another Dream F Leonora Solomon is a writer and editor. She's also a kinky sex blogging superhero and she hosts the flash fiction meam flash Friday. Sabrina lingered in bed her hand on her mound which still throb from the pleasure of the dream she had had ever. Since her first wild dream of Paris she kept having dreams of the apartment that only existed in her grains which she was always leaving for sex and walking into an encounter the night before or maybe that morning she dreamt that she wandered out in the middle of the night in a cocktail dress. See searched for a cigarette. She could not possibly have had in reality but in a dream she had but no lighter so she walked up to a couple standing near a huge Garg oil. They looked at her and ask what they would get in return for light on her bare our knees she spread the woman open on a nearby bench and licked for her light. The woman pushed her head more and more into her as the man entered her from behind. Sabrina cried out. It was hard for her to keep her mouth on the woman as the man pounded her. The woman was insistent and kept grinding her face her crotch. Sabrina almost passed out from the pleasure she was giving and getting now. She was naked in bed. It was the middle of the night and where was Harry. She let her a hand linger on her mound bit and she was just about to pleasure herself. Harry appeared and looked where her hand was she. She knew she was not going to be measuring herself after all. Sabrina woke up clutching between her legs. And knew it was not a dream orgasm it was an actual orgasm. Harry sent wafted into her nose from beside her and made between her legs throb. Even more another Parisian dream this one different from the others in that a it resulted holded in an actual orgasm that woke her up and be Harry was in it. She was typical suit wearing a fedora. The man man that was flirting with her like the drudge overlook but he kept his eyes on her female bits her breasts for example when she pulled her suspenders unders or his eyes on her legs when she crossed them his hand on her thigh was inevitable and he was shameless with his fingers was drifting to the very top of them. She put her hand on his face and caressed his cheek which she now realized felt like Harry's and end she got wet she in. The man walked into the bathroom where they barely closed the door before they were at each other. He licked the side or face after he kissed her and burst button on her shirt as he tried. gracelessly to UNBUTTON. Sabrina did not care and it was then that she noticed the door Ajar Harry she recognized him in the dream is Harry and it made her wetter her for the other man. She was reckless and let him slip into her without anything. Her eyes were on. Harry as if to I say I want this to be you. She stared at him right into orgasm the one that woke her up and looking at him now she did not want to wake him up because all she wanted to do was jump his bones and there would be plenty of time for that later later she was not in Paris after all. She was here in New York with him for now. Now if you love what you just heard want more follow Leonora on twitter her at F. Dot Leonora or check out her blog at F.. DOT spelled out. Dot Leonora DOT COM. Want more head to masturbation Monday dot Kayla Lords Dot com for all the one handed reads. You can handle handle

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IWVT Ep. 142  Mathemagical Formula

Improvised Weapons

00:00 sec | 6 months ago

IWVT Ep. 142 Mathemagical Formula

"Improvised Weapons Features Audio from Donald Boards Dot COM provides premium music sound effects and that enhance any the top experience until you know. Bieber a battle prime subscription. You can get access to the entire catalogue as well. As tools like soundboards the mixer battle Bart's cast allowing you to broadcast audio online across any virtual tabletop service. You can even upload emits from your private audio wiber and with battle boards prime you getting twenty percent discount on all purchases head to battle boards DOT COM and subscribe to battle boards Prime Coupon Code. I W V tea chest to save some money and what the Noble Century Battle Battlefields to your game to the next level the greatest table top audio library material following is original actual play dungeons and dragons podcast featuring comedians and improvisers in be great state of Vermont. Welcome to improvised weapons Last time on you provide with at and Kassian in Your Yard. You gotTA that troll. Art Is not dead he is just disarmed. Fuck Fuck I guess you. A beach is made a whole bunch of grains of sand definitely. Yeah I'm pretty disappointed with how poorly I rolled on the dice So just everybody knows that that was that was pretty low and how that could quarantine is still very much we. We hope you are all staying safe. We'd like to give you some suggestions of things to keep you busy slow here. We go but I set new from our friendly neighborhood. Dungeon Master Sale. He suggests taking new social distance. Walk in the woods with your all. We've got a night in painting. Miniatures is also good for some relaxation. And if you're looking for a blast from the past all three Austin powers movies are on Netflix's right now. The First Austin powers movie be came out twenty two years ago venture making us all feel old even in the intro camps. Hope with play with our emotions well. It's hit critical. Welcome to improvised weapons. Last time on the show. The party began their battle with the troll. Gargoyles snake grows that were attacking black beak academy and its headmaster. The troll fell quickly. Thanks to the early use of the Arrow of giant-slaying leaving only three opponents. How will the Party Fair? Let's find out will keep the same initiative order from last time so Now slash is return. Okay Hey okay. So where is everyone in relation to me right now? You are currently So you're right up by the snake. Rose your about fifteen feet away from the headmistress suicides powering the force field one snake grows right up on you. The other one is fifteen feet away About Twenty five feet to your rights is Kassian and bullish And they are currently entangled with Gargoyles And then another forty feet or so past stem is sky big and So with the snake. Bro That's closest to me I am. I'M GONNA. I'm just GONNA he. It's close enough for my pincer. Now Right Oh yes you are very much. Close enough to pins Okay well I'm GonNa Pinch him like a sweetly as possible you know. So you're gonNA like the coquettish. What are you talking yeah like? I'm sort of winking at him as I am can sing him. Naming purse throat Oh and that is eight one d seven and hits okay. Let's see. I'm sorry I'm like I set up on my bed thinking it would be come fear but it's just resulted in my dice. Just like going everywhere. So kind of disorganized right now. Okay Harry That is oh seventeen. Seventeen points of damage with the first pincer. You get to make four mainland for twos Aspera to plus a spell. Yeah so how wait how far away from the other snake fro the other ones? Like ten to fifteen feet away okay. So by kind of like take like a wide step. I could probably get him with the other conserve with one other concerns. Okay well that's what I'm GONNA do All those dance moves really like really loosen beyond That's a twenty four up that hits Look that's thirteen bludgeoning damage And then I guess I'm GonNa cast eldridge glass and split the beam between the two of them. Roll two more tax right. That's a kingdom now. That's a good party. Thirty young hits And that is a twenty five Yet they both hit so the first one wait can I still am I? I forgot this last time. I knew this is what I was looking for last time when I was like trying to figure out the damage I have a note. Here that says to add the charisma to both damages if I split the beam that that's so that's GonNa be. Is that the higher charisma. Whatever the your higher charisma monoclonal okay. So that's going to be ten damage for one and a twelve damage for the other. Okay so solid hits The the one that had been sent away distant Mr Style Coming back in and receiving that damage not looking great already starting to to flag. You can see that. It is visibly grieving. Did you do anything else no alien? You're up yet. I am So it will be to snake grows up the wall and then we still doing with this dog oil over here. I think now I'm going to go. I could've slowed. It was you who had taught he said well I cost it then. I say my best imitation of ills Amana. Yeah one intelligence greater than four. I assume that's creature having greater than for us that's to be smart against your wisdom save. Oh that's right I recite. Am Word is a an incorrect mathematical magic mountain magical formula incorrect mathematical who It definitely does not make it safe. Okay that's hilarious lacking grounded. Prone INCAPACITATED CAN'T STAND Yes and then I just give. I put space in between you know I. I'm giving triangulating mytalk well of course so it falls to the ground And just begins like rolling on. Its back laughing because it's a gargoyles. Oil got this lake weird a cacophony deep throat. He sound to sort of wonder quote full full full full. It's job hunt sort of and are you. Did you want to move at all Yeah I'm just I'm just giving putting space. I'm just making sure that cassie and and door lauch preferably gargoyles in me pink shirt and then also but you know the The snake grows making sure that elbow is if it's possible to have not. I'm assuming they're concentrating on her. They are concentrating on her You could easily hide behind the troll. Corpse I don't feel it. I mean to that extreme. Why did I go off bone of action? Maybe I could go start untying the Arbor Short. I would allow that now yardstick So what's the co-signing Timber Now you are just close enough to get in range of the Gargle. I'm going to get up to the GARGOYLES and attack. Look double-handed okay. Go enroll it. Just like when warhead recess. That's a nineteen nineteen rooms so that nine damage there but then the attack. Yes you do get to attack the seventeenth that also hit that thirteen too so something that you notice in this moment is that your proficiency with shield is no longer so With it activated. You don't actually get the the A C bonus from would actually get your way as the again much of the the skills that you need to use it and fights are are no longer within okay so we are back up to the top of the order casting. Kassian is going to do a second wind. Regain hip points yet. Seventy up on sixty one now better then. I am going to try and Lightsaber this guard. Loyal hopefully What's the do Tasha Stu I get advantage I the gargoyles currently prone and you are using a male attacks that you do have client Benjamin. Yeah you hit anyway okay. That is That is Twenty nine the image mass general eleven points of damage. Gargle really not looking good adult author. But the the laughter still takes hold not lost. Its grip doing anything else. Come to that guys are up I League argyle is going to attempt to save again And it was a wisdom save correct correct And your your your DC right. Now is the savings. There was gonna be seventeen seventeen and a sixteen so it remains very enthused by the situation being wildly snake. Rose Are both going to go after shadow off So a miss with the first Scimitar and a nineteen with the flight from the first one So you take five points a piercing damage and again you feel that venom being jetted into you but you ordered to its effects or the second one That is a twenty three with the Scimitar. Hits you take seven points of slashing damage. Actually go swing with Scimitar again. And that is a natural won. T so that is Nine points of slashing from seconds as it sort of gets you in like the Middle Armpit between what one of your lower arms in your pincers. Penalty Shave My. Yeah maybe like a little too close. Yeah Yeah you're going to have some sick razor. Burn Halfpenny Aloe or say then exactly but that is all from them. Okay I am going to Take another swing at the GARGOYLES. He you do cool Google. Okay so that is a twenty six all Righty Mu. Okay so That is twenty three points damage with your first. Yes he's still alive still alive. He looks like he's just right then all him again. What a Chore Still Advantage. Okay that didn't make a huge difference. That's a seventeen seventeen just hits and that is Seventeen seventeen hundred. Yes so you hit it again once more and that sort of did that you've already created on his chest and it just looks up at you. And it's still caught in the grips of Thomas hideous laughter. It's just laughing directly. Elect looking into your eyes and laughing. You raise your your misery above your head and swing down powerfully right into that. David and you can see the cracks form in this. Like right. Light shines out from within as it just breaks five inventory pieces the leg the leg the the wing and the arm the wing and the arm and the head and at the center is this large jagged cloudy. Blue Chip. Oh I take it cool. He did cool idol champions of forgotten realms co talk here we go read You D. Hey Oh are E. C. Hey s that code again is Bado. Only if it's good until June second get their informed fever now back to the show and shadow of your up. The headmistress is still there the headmistress is still there she's still focusing on keeping the the barrier how close how close are ever in a party The party chief. The party closest person is twenty five feet away from you. The headmistress is about ten feet away and the snake rose are all well I guess I'll just keep keep at a snake rose shirt GonNa hold the same as last time. It's like a little embarrassing to do a repeat performance. Yeah I was GONNA say. Let's think of it like standup this time. Deliver the sick a little bit better Looking greatest troops out. Okay so penseur. One is twenty three just hits going to be called That's GONNA be That's a ten for damn uncertain you. Oh my God the Leonard. Eleven to hit. Yeah does not. Yeah so sad. But I'm still gonNA CAST so you. Castro overthrew glass. Yeah oh she up fifteen fifteen hits and a seven also well so ten for damage again and for damage they are both breathing equally hard at this point the leslie consent. They're in unison together. They're in unison and they're on either side of soda. You're kind of getting in Stereo. They are they both look like they're flagging. I mean they haven't dropped their their swords or anything but they they don't they don't look good So alien you break into pieces. Control is dead. It's just Who are about fifty ha exactly what I want them to fifty feet away why I do I'm going to Oh all day Within twenty feet of each other yes. Okay I'm going to sleep on again. Yep just gentler five five unless they're doing stolen one A lot my point two three four five. That's crazy. All five of them were threes And so in this case by ten three fifteen I believe in all cases lifetime three fifteen that includes what I said. So you Extend your arm and you go. Sh- try to sleep in the sort of energy coalescence in the general area doesn't affect shock at all got way too many hit points technically also benefits from the ills. Can't be put to sleep thing because yeah technically But while the is of the snake rose do droop briefly. Neither of them falls donates. It would seem that fifteen. Hit was not quite. I mean Oh not magic. Well I go and I Try to so so the person the headmistress facing school you said current okay. I'm going to try to get up to the wall. Away from grows walk in that direction. I want to get to the world but but not need a thank both totally between the opposite of what I did. Yes so that on is between me and Max I understood. Yeah I yeah you can. You can certainly tend to do that. You've got about halfway alright. So how many stay up to two. Okay I'm going to ask coastal to get to them in one movement on you can get to one of our Evan up to one of them and again. Attack with my. Okay go enroll it. That is ten ten does not weighed. I hit again. Yeah you saw the second Adak. Army contract is natural. Nineteen that it plus all right so that is a thirteen points damage. Thirteen as you crack one of them in the spine Again not dead yet but look even worse now And that is your. That's everything for you. Cassie okay I'm how far away from the Headmistress Fifteen fifteen twenty. Okay I'm going to jog over to her And as I go cash eat home. Well you know the kind of casualties that allows me to move thirty seconds to whatever that translates to. I'm sheathing my rapier drawing my boas I go And when I get close Sir I'm GonNa say Know how much juice you have left an I need you to please. Please please not drop this barrier when we finish this fight and then I'm gonNA shoot an Arrow at The snake DRP. Okay go ahead and roll That is seventeen. Seventeen four damage so you Hit the Arrow lodges in back meet It's still standing. But it looks real real fucked up not in a good mood So next up is the bad guys. Gargoyles down troll is down is just. The snake rose This one who just got attacked by both casting in your fix is going to turn around To meet this new threat. And it's going to swing first Scimitar And whiffs it and big time Then it's going to lean forward and attempt to fight And that is a twenty one. Oh yeah that's so you take To six points of piercing damage from fights and seven points of poison damage which is reduced to three. Because you are party and the is going to continue. Its assault against shadow of That is linked your winking that is rooted not enough to hit by far But the second one is a twenty four translates to a paltry poor slash. Love Nafta time. He looks up at you like really smacktalk and last year and I I am close enough to get to one of the sacred. Either of them can get to either. Okay all in one is attacking your Fiqh and the other is attacking shied shadow of. I'll go to the one attacking our vic and I'm going to switch to my regular great acts and that is nineteen yet that hit cool and sixteen points of damage points of damage You use swing and cut it mother fucking head on North Cuckoo Cuckoo Cuckoo cool next. I'll be collecting heads. Okay set of arms for my for my second attack. Can I turn and throw a javelin at the other one? Oh I for sure. Well then I try That is a seventeen yet. Hit seven points of damage. Seven points of damage so you throw a javelin And it just sort of goes through. Its its left thigh takes that hit still standing but certainly not happy about it. Okay Yeah not happy to be standing with Jabal. Wasn't Dick move? You're really rude. Wow now these been APP. I thought they were make their top So their shoulders and head or sneak Okay so did they builders yes they do have no. It's just like shoulders are snake. Skin EXTENDS DOWN ON. Is it okay? That actually genuinely helped me. I was having a lot of trouble bad from a pack up on me. They've got that makes a lot of sense to me. Because I know if you said that to begin with we wouldn't be here Shaida. Yeah your turn some stuff. Yeah well I don't one bro. Left after you sound bad I'll just keep killing all right. Can I Wait I can only can only grapple one target with each pincer but can I does that mean that I. I can't Attack One. Target with vote with two pencils can do. That's a twenty nine natural. A that is a twenty five those both so that is a fifteen and a ten. Pay Me a picture. Oh well So the pincers just sorta well okay so the first pimps are Kinda like clips in ear off the right ear okay. And then don't have years I well in okay so like the scale where an ear would be sure. Sure sure take US shave off the side of its head cold. These snakes was not normal. Okay Fair enough here. Pincers harsh but fair very Very Fair Nicole thinking oh I take it back. Take it back. We're in here would be if I were totally normal asshole. Okay and then the next concer- sort of like lovingly trails down. The snake froze. Face your face off like water boiling down. It's based on Real Quick Express love to you. Mostly score he dragged across her face and then as it reaches the mail it just snaps off the top of the head. Okay so got yeah I see so you off the side of its head. We're in ear would be if it was a Hetero normative normal the of this show. We're telling off we're back just to be clear though like Shaq Ilda like shadow sort of gender fluid. You know very much true very true totally better so they should know better. You're writing your. They're angry and they're still figuring themselves now anyway. Cut His Harry and he falls down very respect leading the oh respectful but it was sexy. Yup Yup believe it or not. He died and then as he dies. Lindsey showed up. Not that there's anything wrong with that false the grounds The upper mandible sort of you know rolling off And settling somewhere farther off in the grass And be the battle is over. The trolls still has to innocence tied to it Headmistress rob is continuing to power the barrier. I say that Demon that. Just decapitated snake is possessing our friend. And it's looking for something of great power in school grounds. Any hope you could give restraining hugely appreciative. I turn back into Calvin Klein. So you cast guy self returned back into Calvin Klein. And meanwhile headmistress rob sort of still focusing her former to keep the barrier turns her head slightly to the right so she gets her desk over her shoulder to you. Cassiano and says I I've I don't know how much juice I've caught left but I'll do what I can help. And then you see her. It'd be her eyes. You see her eyes. Flutter a little bit as the barrier comes down and she faints backward into your arms. Calvin Klein Russia's up to catch her well she falls to Kassian brushing with one arm and with the other. I just hold my hand up like listen. I'm a professional. Do Not Co it's just rob a Damsel. Does anyone in Gatorade. She needs electrolytes Hey does anyone wants to go and tie the ANA I should stay here with. Headmistress Rob Yeah. I think I should I. I owe some apologies over there so I'll all headed that way as well. Finola UNTIE The the innocence. That were tied the troll. Meanwhile Kassian and Calvin Klein sort of fight over who gets to cradle the fainted form of headmistress Robin Aylwin waits to be acknowledged for her part in the battle and save headmistress. I give her a little sip of water out of the cantor so you you pour some You you son. Just a trickle of water and pour some water into her mouth massage her throat so that it goes down and her is just sort of slowly open and she sort of like lazily looks around and looks up and sees Ao and little cool he returned. Yes hello thank you for listening you can follow us on over things that I W V t cast. You can email us at improvised weapons vitae. Jamile DOT COM and you can check out the other great podcasts. For whom knife at tea? Brunei dot com remember to subscribe rate and review show. It may seem like a little thing but it means a loft us. You can support the show at patriotic dot com slash. Wvu cast where you can find out. Dm's notes forever episode and our reaction cares episodes. Were the whole cast reflects on what they just went through. You can also support the show by going to dump stat. Tease DOT COM. Picking up a new shirt using the. Promo code I W help expand our wicky. Wtt DOT PHANTOM DOT COM and join the community of like minded nerds that keeper list of magic words up to the improvised weapons metal theme and Altro were written and recorded by Adam. Ribbon Adams Leaves Goblin. Things fall is on band camp spotify and pretty much everywhere you might go looking for. You can peruse the rest of his catalog. I'M UP DOT COM. Many of our sound effects are from battle barreds dot com to use them in your game. Follow the link episode description to sign up for battle bards or use. The code is W Vita CASTA. You can find out more about the video game idol champions of the forgotten realms at codename entertainment dot com be on the lookout each week for a code for a Free. Indian cool chest tune in next time. Is the mix it onto the grounds of black? Meek Shadow begins the search for book. We'll see you on. The next episode of improvised with and this has been a knife production.

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DEFENDERS OF THE NIGHT! Promo 1

Defenders Of The Night

00:00 sec | 8 months ago

DEFENDERS OF THE NIGHT! Promo 1

"One Thousand Twenty six years ago superstition and the sword lead. It was a time of fear a time of Gargoyles list. What are you doing? Hey Daniel I didn't see you. I'm just watching Gargoyles mid-nineties Disney cartoon and do you always yell along with Goliath to you? Fair point so did you may want to watch with me. Oh and then make a podcast about hells. Yeah yes. I'm so into it. We are defenders of the nights. The most trusted source for topped about him coverage of everyone's favourite mid-nineties Animated Program. Gargoyles find us at CLAMMY CAST DOT com or your favorite pod catcher era.

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Ep. 85: Rogue Gods (The Hellfire Chronicles)

Not Another D&D Podcast

00:00 sec | 11 months ago

Ep. 85: Rogue Gods (The Hellfire Chronicles)

"This is a head Gum podcast welcome to the campaign pain after the campaign. This is not another De podcast. Welcome back to the home. Yeah everyone everyone. I'm your dungeon master. Brian Murphy joined by Jake Hurwitz or one Chore Foot. Emily Oxford. Shine Savon electrifying creek coming after your lick bitch. Threatening and of course called Tanner Beverly Tocqueville the Fifth Warrior Warrior of the dusk slayer of the husks. Ou De Hope. I hope so. We shall see fingers crossed guys. It has been a minute happy. We New Year to all the novels out there. I'll be two years. Yeah and it's been a long time so there are a lot of twos in this year. That's right boobs actually double creek. It's the year the booze we gotta keep going Young Man Beautiful Jeff Ball Roll with a bandage crit twice twenty role with advantage. That's check our stores star. We already. It's already let's first item in the store from D.. Lifestyle brand sweet guys. It has been a minute. So let's do a little recap love it last. Ask Time you guys faced the Lich Akhaura as he attempted to resurrect dead Gods and send them to wreak havoc on the material plane after carving through his acolytes you were able to stop the teleportation of half of the six gods but the other three made it through one was a large monster that looked like a gargoyles. A green gooey poisonous massive eyeballs and the last was some kind of dinosaurs siege monster. You defeated accurate here. But Alana's Alana's warned you that the battle was not over Acura. Didn't need to be the ruler of Hell to control the role. Gods now that the ritual was completed you then had to decide who would wear fire the Hellfire crown acrobats place and decided on pender greens logical choice. moonshine cast a gayus spell on him ordering pender grains to banish all of the souls that were being held here against their will then close every layer of hell except the first pender grains gifted moonshine the blessing thing of his essence cursing her sword so that he could speak to her at any time less and with that he banished you back to the material plane where three Eh rogue God's controlled by accurate. Prepare to destroy all that you hold dear and that's where we are now well. Well that can't happen. Beverly you say that as you guys lands in the whisper would you guys grew up here with Alanis on the the material plane. And you find yourselves so we're near Glade. Yes you're in the woods. Just outside of glade home EC crystalline trees with unnatural colored leaves purples and Blues and oranges. There are still some creek elves living out here and you could see some bonfires choice right. Yeah you see their way unless people living out here but it is also a magical forest like a good life. So long as there's the opportunity to live in Glade cooter pokes his head out of a magical tree house and goes. Where'd you come from? Hey cooter came from hell. Hell you see he sips some tea. Wow that's that's messed up. Install the new leader but I'm probably doomed to go there. Oh no I'm sorry to hear that. Hey Your Mama and your daddy just came through a little bit ago. whoa sorry yeah yeah sick? Yeah he was riding. Your daddy was reading some kind of weird worms and excelsior or something. It was weird actually actually a new. Oh yeah he does that all the time interesting interesting. Yeah I'M GONNA go rendezvous with them but everything good out here here yet seen any. I Dunno giant Eagle dinosaurs. Dinosaur Ball have you you've seen any GOO Goo goo dolls. John Donavan Gargoyles as well. His new high elven wife Parrilla Lab pokes her head out. She goes by five not seeing any giant. Dinosaurs are eyeball months. Oh it's that kind of T.. Democrat cooter slum it yeah I was GONNA say spill. You're positively glowing. Thank you so much. I'm living wildlife out here. Yeah I gotta be honest. The fresh air is good for that complexion by that higher power. I love your chimney. You really made a beautiful patio out here thank you yes you can just the woods magical. I can't believe US hives weren't living out here. Look at this you see. She just starts kicking into the wall and just brakes off part of their house. Odor helps her like layout some branches and it just starts. It's growing a new bedroom. Are you trying to tell us something. We're renovating yeah. Oh Okay just renovating. In addition I didn't know if it was addition to the house. Yeah it's really. It's quite because communicate to conceive but I suppose you're creek sperm could be so potent. Wow she said she just said it really go into the castle a lot of just like running through a million things in her head and she goes like doc. Okay no this seems super weird to be out here talking to cooter but actually you guys need to rest anyway. We need to all be before. I got a question question. Okay I'M GONNA run it by my dad because actually he's here but I'd like to ask you of it. I was thinking of maybe borrowing the thinking cap. You can certainly speak to your father about it. I think he would allow it. Yeah these are pretty extreme circumstances all right then. Let's go find him yard. I need counsel for myself all right. Well it's up to you guys. If you want my advice I think hunker down get some sleep immediately and then let's meet up first thing in the morning all round everybody everybody up. I can head into town right now. I can warn her. Dan have him send out messages to the other. Free cities. Make sure the guards are on high alert. I can try to find the gods see where they are located figure out our next plan. I don't act routes not just gonNA show up without thinking and start blowing stuff up and if he does. I'll come get you can you get out Alanis. T- She looks pretty sleepy. Yeah he chucks a full Mug of hot out. Oh sorry I should probably come down to bring that to you. Let me make another pod allow this teacups just magically reforming though. That's nice asserts. Come back together. I mean I whisper into the I.. Westbourne to my cursed sword two degrees and I said thanks for Japanese in the whisper would from screwed up and Glade Home Guard Smart Water Bureau of Charter. I'm calling for Tactical Juniors. I gotta say a you. He's shown a little bit of heart there. the betrayal but maybe role. What a nice guy our our expectation betraying Bert? Well thank you never been so happy to be wrong Hey well thanks for making this guestroom cooter you might have. We put it to us. y'All at Y'all are welcome to come in here and stay in our new weird guest firm arm. Yeah that'd be wonderful. You know what I mean. Four hours a trance. So I'm GonNa do something slightly inconvenient for well I guess just beverly I'm GonNa make I'm GonNa wake you up in the middle of the night and make you email okay. Oh Yeah of course. Yeah you're going to have to do sort of a midnight night snack broken up. Yeah Sure Yeah Okay my my dad. My Dad used to do that. He would get up and get a midnight snack. Jack well you know. We're keeping the tradition alive. John and I will wake up after four hours hard passes out for nine hundred conversely Alana send you guys off you guys climb a rope ladder into cooter street house and Alanis waves to you guys. And she goes. I'll I'll let them know about the factory too and I'll help to work on trying to remove also got some Snow Globes from Hell as souvenir so he could pass those along. But do you want to just give it to them yourself tomorrow. Yeah that's probably a good call heart of wall so you guys first thing in the morning meet me at the castle. Okay aren't ordeal. Do you see she disappears. Okay I go into a trance but then at four hours I make heroes feast wake everyone up. Shoved down down their throats. And then go into another trans to get my spouse lots back. Great you see cooter walks in while you're cooking the heroes feast. Oh a little bit of that or yeah absolutely cooter cooler. You won't come to battle. Do I WANNA come to battle. I never seen on the field. I don't know what sort of a I'm I'm a little bit of a medic. I can help out you know handed out potions or applying salves and whatnot has kinda my thank. You have always been a man of the people I think you should come with us. go ahead and give you a persuasion check. Eighteen eighteen eighteen once heard that in times like these. Everyone needs to go to battle even men. You See bound or looks up super tearfully and COOTER looks down at bow. Northern looks at you and goes. I don't really know the significance of that phrase but uh-huh yeah mean fuck it. Spill is a cool five. Leave town for a couple of days. I don't know how long you will be gone. Yes they are well. I'm not much of a warrior but I do have a little bit of medicinal training so if anybody gets knocked out or anything anything maybe we can scrounge up some fancy high off armor for you. Oh great idea. I don't know proficient in things if that makes sense dance. Maybe I'm just being inviting you into a bad fate. Maybe you shouldn't join US guys. I'll come along. I don't give a shit I wanted to give give you a chance to shine because I know you're strong dude. Oh thanks I think you'd look great and like a white frock. You know kind of like a Florence Nightingale. Oh five just running around yeah cooter nightingale. I'll wear rock star pegging muffing guy a fraud. accoutrements starts Backing things again. We've got cooter loaded up with some potions is at the middle of the night. Are we eating dinner. What's going on the cooter who also is potato? Yeah because I think it's up to ten people. Hey Parrilla just parrilla. Oh so pardon me. Pardon I thought it was short. Percents Parrilla it's I got. I got feast. If you want to partake you'll have a really good day tomorrow. I would love to have some. Do you want some tupperware in case you need some of this later later anything absolutely is it. Call the we're eating. This in bed is isn't that normal amongst the creek people. Yeah that's pretty much where I ate all mommy. No checking is not because we could have a dining room if we wanted to fund eat med. It's absolutely fun. And then like sometimes you wake up in the middle of night yummy Dream Crumbs Bagley. So how many people Can you do for heroes up to twelve other creatures sweet cooter Inspir- Ila also give you guys some some tough aware so that you can hear hear later. Ooh Yeah we might meet like I dunno five birds or something we want to be really strong or maybe other warriors. We'll see See guys shove a bunch of food in your house in the middle of the night you guys finish sleeping hard-won transis full full nine hours. Got Him I will trance. I couldn't wake him up so when he wakes up in the morning. Then I give him the tupperware prefer the exco go to sleep feed you man. It was weird so the next morning the sun rises it is it is day. Okay so I guess like. We don't have a lay of the land as to what's going on. I don't know how we're going to find these things. Get to the castle. I talked to the cat and get to the castle's e we can borrow the thinking cap. See we can finally connoisseur meemaw and Mama sweet you guys had into glade home I see the troops here are all on high alert. They're all rushing in action. You see high. elven warriors in elegant armor lead New Creek L. Recruits in morning warning drills. You'll see the druids of the old folks. Circle confer with arch wizards of the academy rush to the castle with its elegance. Water Water Garden soon to be waterpark. Wow the slides really coming in. You see you see that. There are some high elven generals sitting sitting on floating leaves like a Lazy River looking over a map. It looks so dangerous. I can't wait to go on this. You guys also see the symbol of glade. Home this Silver Tree with frayed branches reaching up towards the sky recognized by some guards who quickly assure you into a war room within the castle. It's got a full glass wall that looks out onto the ocean. Tall ceilings and walls lined with books. There are various Arcane cain readers trackers and devices throughout the room it's part war-room part. Study Part Lab. You see in the center of the room. There is another one of these is bowls that Alanis uses to make projections but this one is much larger looks to be the size of a bathtub. It's like a dining room table. It's huge. Yeah it looks like specifically made for a council to stand around it and discuss battlefield strategy and you see a bunch of your friends here. You see that Alanis this year along with urban and Mama and you also see Meema Lucas an off Gar. You see the ladder three Especially Lukanen and meemaw snap their heads towards you. Moon Chad Moshav. So glad you're alright. MEEMAW runs over your old guard Brahms. I'm going to be okay but it's good to see yeah. We had a crazy time. There were these weird you go. Well I was blown off into astro space. You see he Narrows his eyes at Alanis. I'm sorry okay I had a plan and sometimes things get screwed up. It's not my fault man. Get off my back and Lucas goes. I tried to get a few cracks in. It's one of those angels that was going after off guard and birds. Yes yes And I misjudged where I was going and I ended up getting caught in the vortex of one of these portals but luckily your mother and car followed me and the three of us were able to get out together good. Wow Yeah it really is all. You're Paul helping your all healthy. Let me check them for soft spots. you start checking them for soft spots they Look good they look like they rested and stuff. This is is a cyber Zora. Alanis waves you guys over to join her at the projection pool. You look in and you guys see a map. Napa Bohemia there's the main continent which is shaped it kind of looks like Australia but it's a bit thinner in the middle then the large mostly uninhabited continent. That's above it. That's the frigid north. I you see the free cities glade. Home Hill Home Foster. An iron deep are marked in blue while the eastern side of the continent including later on and as ry are marked in white to show chosen occupation. You see that in the mountain ranges connecting the east side of the continent to the West. There are markers for chosen troops. Who have set up war camps basically just waiting for an opportunity to travel through and attack the nearby city of iron deep? You also see that south of hill home behind another group of Mountain. Ranges is are the ruins of Osmania the fallen orchestras city. There is no marker on that one it fell to Akra. I you see a lot of pipes up and she goes. The city of Awesome Odia fell win. We took out OSMO. It's the first time we cleared it out when we went through the portal. The first time we killed as Modena's has there been any activity there since I accidentally touched the puddle. You touch it just all turns to smoke. Oh sorry sorry sorry. That's like a half hour ritual that give you help. Action doesn't fifteen minutes everyone. Everyone stands around. weirdly off guard goes and gets finger. Sandwiches better be like a plate of Crisan another heroes Feast knows knows eight. This eleven note here a snack. Yeah and you see Alana's goes the half Ling's in Hill home have reported orcs six in the area. It is likely that they're gathering there so anyway. Acrobats God's Aka the hollow God. These are extremely powerful. I did some research last night based on their physical descriptions and while there's very little information about them I I was able to find some. These beasts are thousands of years old and most of what is known about them is just retelling of oral traditions. Somebody he just wrote down stories that someone had told them long ago So take everything. I say here with a grain of salt because we don't know much watch its Myth but myth usually represent some truth exactly So the bubbling slime monster that we saw is a monster that was once known as the jubilees in ancient faceless monster and devour of men you guys see an image of this green ooze monster. Oster with dozens of bloodshot eyes dripping with toxic steaming goo. It's attacks are highly poisonous. It brings plague and disease that can spread rapidly and it's known to absorb its incapacitated foes into its body. We also believe it can change form because it was spotted in the iron deep mountains by scouts but then quickly disappeared disappeared. Could it take the form of a human. The Scout Party said that it just disappeared into thin air. So it could have teleported could've taken a gaseous form it. It did not sound like a transformed into a human. You see she places. A marker like a black marker to denote an accurate sighting near iron deep and she goes unfortunately these gods are super powerful and have some kind of arcane block where can't scroungy on them directly and and this one has been extremely hard to track because it can change form so we don't have an exact read on it last known sighting near the Iron Mountains. Okay the next God is the gargoyles looking one. This one was once a demon Lord named froze or blue This one is the the most humanoid like and has the greatest command of magic. It too can change shape and height. It's true form but I did catch for a brief moments in the ruins of as Modi was able to track their She places a black marker there since the half Ling's have reported sightings of ORCS gathering here we can assume accurate is using this body as the general of his army is that correct over limited by the intelligence of the bodies that inhabits thinks about it for a sec. Let me go ahead and do history check her Nat fucking twenty. Yes I do think he is limited by the type of body that he chooses. I think this demon Lord is most likely clete going to be the one that he's able to speak through that he's going to be able to control the easiest the other ones he did. Succeed with the ritual Joel. So I'm sure he will have command of their bodies whether or not they'll be able to speak I don't know but there's a chance you might succumb to their primordial rage and be unable to control them a little bit. I doubt he will lose control of I guess. I'm more interested yet to find out if he can be commanding. An army s AH giant monster or if he would be limited so that's a good answer. I do think that the reason this demon Lord is down in. Osmania is because there's a bit of politicking going on. Oh yes rallying the troops I think the other ones are going to be more straight on attacks. Okay thank you. The last monster is The most fearsome legendary God of destruction known as the task. The story say that the monster is impossible to kill and is immune to magic okay. So where's that one right to magic so again it's a story. It's likely an exaggeration but there could be some truth to it. It doesn't get sick during flu season. That sort of thing perhaps APPs yeah and then to answer your question hard one that one we've been able to track directly to the frigid north. That one has not changed form at all that one you see. She points to an uninhabited area of the frigid northeast of Frost wins and you see she flicks her finger in a black. Marker appears and this one unlike the other ones that are static that are just like assumed locations of these monsters. This one is like moving ever so slightly Louis. Which direction is it headed? It looks to be headed towards Roslyn. O Torch I mean it's not there yet Note is not there yet okay. So we've we've sent messages to all the free cities and the froth stores are gathering at the wall. I ask an uncouth question. Sara Way to get this most fearsome creature to go after as really or one of the places that is chosen. I'm not proud to ask that question. But I think we've got to be thinking of any and every strategy available at our disposal. Yeah I think Acura is going to be careful not to equally attack the chosen and the free cities I think he sees where this is headed. He sees that were the underdogs. He's trying to squash US quickly so then he can at full force fight the Allah he wants to erase us from the equation. Okay so because because of acrobats guidance we could not try to sick. This bad guy on the Allah imagined the fitness out. Wait and see what happens. That is is a big part of the problem. Yeah you see off. Gar looks at the map. You've always known that he has had a crush on Alana. So you see. He like folders arms and tries to sound really smart and he goes some indubitably so I would your Sandwich the Oh oh my goodness and you see Alana's back seven. She goes like I think you're cool. Just talk how you talk. It's cool. You'RE A a super smart battle master you know your way around a battlefield. Just be yourself yet. No I was doing that. I sit in a digitally all the time. uh-huh put well put do believe myself. This is a hard one and I talk to you. See Him just is pleading for suicide. Now I heard earl far say indubitably a punch. Yeah you see me Ma nods indubitably. Yeah quite quite right yeah side. I slew Catis as she goes indubitably. Look all the enemy. Everyone it's fine. Everyone smart here. That's why we're here. And we're all indubitably smart. Yes pretty hold your tongue. Now that's normal. He talks like that. Hey Go yeah you easy off guard after he's done kind of like blushing he clears his throat and he goes. Yeah that's going to be a problem for iron deep if one of these gods is near the city. It's likely that as soon as it attacks the chosen will use this as an opportunity to attack our troops there so is iron in deep the greatest threat in the greatest threat right now a lot of goes most fearsome monster the greatest threat. I think right now everything. It's pretty bad and I think we gotta divide us up and we need to tackle each one of these things individually Mama. My Queen Champion wore blood through my veins. I will fight for you where you send me. You see she hops up to your chest and puts her head against ends yours. You ought to let us talk about the best course of action and then I shall decide where to dispense you my champion for. I know that loose end and will be tied up. I live to serve you. You see her. Dan Speaks up and he goes well. If acrobats flattery factory is in the al-kassar someone will need to take care of that. I can handle that Mama. If you join me. Perhaps warn the people of the city then I can teleport. The city landed somewhere safe than dispel the all caster and get to work performing a ritual to remove acrobats essence from it. I have a question yes. I was wondering if I could borrow the thinking cap. I'm of course I defer to your wisdom I do not ask for an ingredient reason I ask because I think it could help but if you think it's a bad had idea I'm not going to press it you see Lukasz looks at you and then looks at her down and goes come on man let her have it go ahead it and roll a persuasion with advantage seen seventeen Dan kind of scratches his head. He looks uncomfortable comfortable. He goes well. I suppose the magic artifacts here haven't exactly been kept safe. I actually think it would be much safer in your hands. I ask that you please return it after absolutely I have no interest in this belonging to me only belong to the elves also. I'm going to make a cute volt chinstraps so it definitely stays on my head. That's smart see that you do also is a cool for modified by adding strap Taylor. It's fine it's fine. Oh I suppose is okay fine you could put a strap on it. I wish Moonshine customizing is it. Thank you so I wanNA keep the brim stiff though absolutely yeah. Yeah and I'm GonNa we tags on you see. lukasz folds his arms and looks at the map and goes I would be able to teleport someone one hour a party. If we needed to get downtown's Modia Iron Deeper Frost wind you see meemaw speaks up and she goes. If you could get me down near Hill home. We could warn the half lines down there. I could wild shape and sneak around Osmania. See what's going on. Get some info foe on what's going on there. Make sure we're not an immediate danger. Yeah Yeah I'll go where we're sent but I would love to know that he'll home. We'll be safe. You see Meema put your hand on your shoulder and she goes young. I promise you not a hair on any of those half lanes is going to be hurt even the pebble pots like a priority list for sure. I guess I'm just saying if harm comes to the pebble pods might be for the good of the half. Oh Yeah I can see the pebble pots using human shields. These are hard times. I WANNA say a hair heard on anybody maybe a few pebble pot hairs are hurt but not outright killed pebble pods aside. I want someone to make me the same promise for iron deep. There's good to orphans there. Yeah you see off Gar. Raise Zack's points to you. Hard one and goes iron. Deep is my home so I can rally the troops there and make sure that the chosen don't get in and if the jubilee six shows up in the mountains I'll be there to fight it able glibly and tell them Sir tell them Dwarf Ins. I got a hot pot of cash for them after at the office. Yeah illegal vampire gold hold on. I hope the orphans aren't out fighting in the mountains but I wouldn't put it past the people who run the door finish. Now there's some there's some fuckers they gasol widely Dorfman's do I know. I know one of them growing up here indubitably. Yeah I just WanNa say though like Bev view an obviously hard one. US Well but if you go to hell home that is perfectly vaguely within your I. I think we're long past doing what we want to do. Now is the time to do what we need to deal. You mean certainly understand that. But that's I hold myself to that standard but I don't hold you to that stand. What do you think I hold myself to that standard? Who Do you think taught me Komo Stop Shovel? Heroes visas mouth so much of it falls in the pool back I it was going to let those go there little wet. That's fine you see Alana's goes. I could join join all scar in iron deep. If what is I do strategy behind Alanis Back Excellent Strategy Man off guard absolutely. Don't need to talk like that off guard school just natural to they do but if any part of what we know about the task is true then my magic might not be much of an effect against it and if the chosen shows in WanNa try to sneak in through the mountains I can make it rain boulders on them right I mean I'm also magical. I might not have much to offer to the to to ask but your magic comes from the land. I feel like you could add as right I can. I can make the fucking earth angry at it starts to get pumped we can make thank regardless right. That's right. Yeah it's going to get the trees going to be so nasty to me spanking already. druid dirty on his dern spell caster and you see my goes and I can get a message out to Cobb Bob. I know he's out in the Iron Mountains I I just ate slice shifts in the night. We just keep missing COBB I can have him bring bring a team to the city in case anything happens there while the well the troops are out. I can have some tales to tell really. Is that open mic night. It's going to be like a four for our valves. HBO Special All right. So I guess that means that we are headed for this dinosaur. You'll be the team that helps frost twin. Fight the task okay. The one thing were were here in late home. May We borrow a champion. Aw bigger I got a hero's fees leftover someone who might be able to really bring that heroes appetite earned turns to you and he goes yes anything. We'd we'd love to help you in any way that we can. We want Mavericks. We've got half of a foot long sub with his name on it. Louganis puts his hand on his Chin Shen and looks thoughtful and goes well. Today should be his first day of class so he's probably still in his room. He's teaching the class asked now. He's the new sorcery professor. He's probably still asleep has crap she could be still asleep. If you go to. The university will send a message to set you up with thinking cap and you can speak with Mavericks and see if he'll join you. Okay all right. How does that sit with all? Let's go on schoolteacher. Es beat feet before we head out. I have one last thing you need to do. Okay I rush over to Garowe quick and fish my orbit recording out of my bag and say you see Arlen. Just give him this. Hopefully I'll be able to explain what's on it later later but if not I just wanted to have something for me indubitably a totally understand how this thing works stupidly. Sir Yes indeed lead. Yes I shall take this technology with me. I feed the tree of the highest regardless I will I will deliver it to earl and if I see him and off-guard if there's someone that you care about they care about you don't let that slip away. See Off Guard gives a little side. I two Alana's and then looks at you and goes. I don't know what you're talking about. Cool hard-won nods quite fairly sir. I I st- I send Handy Andy to Kinda like brush down off guard hair and kind of like Prime Pimm for his long travels with Alanis Not a business trip yes stealthily. He looks really good. So you guys rush out of the castle and make your way down to the university. UC that As you guys are out amongst the elven warriors and the trainees you see papa. Perks up man. What is it boy? Okay I got to tell you Popol business to attend to. You can't just be falling every day career what you want to go steal some food table scraps lean you see he gets down to your bib and he scrambles away okay and you understand him because he's you're familiar but he says I have a surprise. I'll meet you guys at the university surpress Lear more. Ah Papa's getting US something monogrammed leads that jerseys guys run across the Long Bridge to the university and burst into the doors of classroom. Where Mavericks the UNSCHOOLED Zach? You may say hello. Hello adverse the UNSCHOOLED schooled is in. The middle of teaching is first class on the chalkboard. We just see his name written mavericks. I got as you wearing a tie. Ah y'all go like super loosely. He's wearing it around his head though. Awesome and there's a bunch of young students in robes in attendance. It's all right you're going to want to take your textbooks right and opened onto just kidding. Rip Them in half. See the high of a months. Each Other confused is river textbooks and how you yes. Yes Sir US daily they try to rip the. Do Give me give me that one. Are we paid a lot for these hand. Dig a knife into a guy goes in textbooks you have rippin half not not just for this class turning education on its head the love this this is so anti-establishment what is thank God. Ah Walk down an aisle ripping everybody kids schoolbook. Thank you. Who was who was tried to avoid doing it? I rip Ripa Forum and throw. It cost me so much money. Eight your first lesson is learning how to use them in spell Heo jump up on a desk then forget it. uh-huh Whoa God. I was halfway through a lesson where I gotta be honest. I was wearing this tight at the beginning of the class. A search sweating full flop sweat because I felt I felt the true panic of someone who realize they made a huge mistake team really nervous or someone. Who's acting so cool? Hi sometimes you have to just like fake it till you make it and thank God. Let's get Outta here. We had this perfect. We came here. We're GONNA have to talk you out of being. I'm not sure what class your homework write this down. A yes sir didn't you. All their pencils are broken. Shit okay well remember remember this. Don't write it down. Find a truly perfect leaf and surf that bad boy out into the middle of the lake and never come back to school. It's going to be persuasion. Check Help Action Twenty three twenty three Yeah you see like eighty percent of the class starts cheering and runs out in the hall. You see a couple of others just kind of slowly gather other their books. You have a really good rating on rate my professor good straight up dead wizard society. I think made a huge mistake. What were you guys doing? Well okay okay. Here's the deal. We are going on a very dangerous adventure and we thought that maybe we could convince you to risk your life and everything that means anything to you you for our cost. You don't have to be a teacher for a little while and then again I had whole spiel but you know. Well I mean you can tell me the bullet points on the way but I'm in a you know a general heroics The greater good something about that thing about that a couple times yoga okay. Generally risking oneself for the future of Boom Yeah we're also going to beat up dinosaur you guys see as you're talking to Mavericks. Suddenly you had kicked open the doors to go and talk to him and then they had closed you. See Papa scrambles scrambles in from under the door panting ran ran ran. Inhaler takes his inhaler in a moment almond later apple scrubbers strides in Seventies. I live in bree. Okay okay. Are you doing good. Thank you thank you. It's Nice hairnet guys apple for the teacher right. That means you're did you already find relief student. I didn't buy do carry this perfect at least with me everywhere I go. Symmetrical is good. I've never seen leave quite like that. You get an a I don't know won't know how it's GonNa piss off all those else after the other elves all right. I'm in I'm in whatever is them I've started in reading and it is overrated really. It's a nice tool for acquiring some information but the information is all super bias. ooh Yeah why do I like that just like the cheese in it. Yeah very truthful person is yeah I know I remember. We found that bouncing. You split it with us. The late fifty and I didn't even want to you. Insist fifty was not gonNa take honest as the day is long probably like you know honest. People seem talk about how honest they are for a long time to hurt I. I've seen it. I've not read it no reason to believe you scrubber what you have to these days you got free afternoon or five. Yeah I mean I'm supposed to be trained in these elves but mostly I just have climbing trees and then mud borden. They can do that on their own mug boarding their leg strength up get their torsos right. Yeah in writing strengthen torso it's all x corps. They're not super happy with me. Because I have destroyed a lot of lawns but legal rights strength absolutely well scrubber we are going on a dangerous mission. I meant okay again. Wow this Chelsea. Yeah yeah I thought wow yeah like hanging the doorway take points. It's like a siege monster thing headed for the walls. Yeah yeah sure again. You're just get out real quick just again. Your life is in danger. At risk risk yet you might die. Probably GonNa die real quick I'm GONNA pop openness Tupperware have a hero's feast hot. Give some of them a little while. You never had one of these. You have never had a wider BURRITO. Yeah they're leftovers but I think they're still potent leftovers. Leftovers in. My opinion are often better than I over agree. You're right so murph. Does this actually do an extra twelve of Massachusetts the regular Taylor. Okay okay wait. So what do we. Everyone gets twelve points. Twelve extra. Hit points for the next twenty four hours your immune to poison and being frightened and you make all wisdom saving throws rose with advantage and it lasts for twenty four hours. You'd think a Web burrito UH in tupperware wouldn't be that great but this is amazing. Yeah the TORTILLAS is falling to pieces of flavorful and away like it's not necessary stilted juleps and drink the tupperware. You need to get all that glare. It doesn't work unless you drink at all. I'm looking at you. Guys see that after a bit Alanis appears in the room with you guys and she is holding thing the thinking cap she to Moonshine. I was able to secure this for you. Thank you all the also of course Alanis you could use it. I don't know what your relationship to this Item of clothing is do. I don't want Brag but already I plus five no intelligent so that's a huge rip talking about out plus zero so let me let me get the hat right on. Are you a teacher. Sort of not here specifically but just it's like out in the world I teach people stuff fucking love your style your vibe to Auspey. Thank you cool off car here. He witnessed uh-huh is her back. I'm looking at it. I mean we'd better go what's going on but let's go don't either. Hi Nice to meet you nice to meet you on this. This is a very powerful Sorceress wizard this is one of the greatest mud borders in all new stall just a semi professional in it. I mean there. There are professional mud borders so professional as they get. If you cared you'd be professional right. Yeah right yeah no I do it for the love lovecraft money exactly. Yeah you got to anyway. If you hit that I would take it a joy sick issue. We're off by eight. By the time we get there should be fine. All your tax would disadvantage. So Alana's I believe Lukasz was maybe talking about helping tell Boorda's Boorda's or are you I can I can tell you guys there and then all meet all those guys in. Iron deep cleanse assembled. Let's go fuck with the dinosaur. Yeah I'll put on my thinking cap on right now. I have to do any saves or anything or am I like friends with it at this point you have. You've already used it okay. Yeah Yeah I covered in glitter and Mike Mushroom drawings. Make a little more stylish. I WanNa like Kinda like scrunch. It forward a it. Looks kind of like a J.. Lo Nineties hat. Thank you at first. I was like no. She can't pull off Bush put on and I was like she. She can put it all out apple ever tell you ever since I met you some came over me. I do like a real quick rage just so she sees it in my eyes. That is amazing. Yeah you can buy me not slush. Yeah Yeah anyways. Let's go get it all right. Let's do it. She puts her arms around you guys and you guys Teleport's to frost wind. You guys arrive atop the city wall. This massive three hundred foot tall structure made of magically infused iron and covered in ice. You See Alana's salutes. You guys all right. I'm going to go back to glade. Home Grab Gar head on off to iron deep. Be Be Safe. Can you magic us up some coats real quick. I'm wearing a tank top Alana finding the cold. I don't feel it weirdly enough. I forgot this bill for making clothes. So many yeah that's weird. You know what I should just be a simple like cancer or something. I don't know yeah I don't know. Sometimes you forget like the simple things Could just create food and water for you and me. We have an extra cutoff sweatshirt. I couldn't work. I run hot if you want just like my coat. y'All take your dollars coded. It's like a belly shirt performance vest in there that I could borrow. Maybe got a north face. Great as it is above. Love your North into my my scrubber Jersey but it's like hockey jerseys okay. Permafrost PUCK JERSEY. It does get bit. I during the winter. The mud isn't something you would buy. Zuma's jacket yeah you see Alana's disappears and you guys are in Frost when the city wall it is sunset here. The weather is strangely. Peaceful Sun in a setting and the snow falls down in big fluffy flakes This is in great juxtaposition to the chaos around you you see. Soldiers commanding the wall mounting giant crossbows and blisters. Some of them are repelling down joining teams at the bottom. You see the doors down here on the surface look like ants except for these big iron gallons that are these huge iron dwarves created to fight giants outside the wall type. There are thousands of soldiers. Here you see that they are setting up traps There is a long spiked rack that they bury in the snow in front of the first line of soldiers. So that when you know monster show up it can fly up and stabbing them. You See Winter Wolves. These dwarf in Rangers with their wolf familiar the milliers prepare their ranks for battle in the distance in the wilds of the frigid north. You see through the fog that the Winter Wolf Scout Towers I have all their signal. Fires lit which are normally reserved for when they would see giants. There is so much activity and nervous energy here and just people yelling to each other that nobody even acknowledges you people are just happy that there's other people there that there's more warm bodies ladies you see one guy holding a bunch of cannonballs boxes of cannonballs trying to get over to a canon. Hey Buddy you help me with this awesome team brother hands you a box of cannonballs. Maybe just take the one box one book of Boxes Please on here I think they should also provide. I think they should go over here and right here. You're like a commander they're going to give you a deception check members. You know the fucking commander a man. Oh whatever give these recruits no cannonballs tints and hands boxes of cannonballs two new scrubber and hard one. So yes there is all this activity around you. Do you guys have anything you want to do like long before the monsters I do. Oh can I ask someone how far aways monster game can we see him on. The horizon can actually cast commune with nature as a ritual. And we can find out exactly. Where is this dinosaurs sweets? What is the language of commune with nature? Instantly gain knowledge of up to three facts of your choice about the following subjects as they relate to your area at the terrain and bodies of water prevalent plants minerals animals are people's poweful celestial safeen elemental dead influence from other planes of existence and buildings buildings. Great so actually. Maybe it wouldn't work on a dinosaur. He's an undoubted great under dinosaur. That's so bloody he cool. Don't get too excited about him. Though so I would like to know about the dinosaur. I would like to know about bodies of water and I would like to know about minerals. Yeah I get three things Murph cool. Sometimes there's salt crystals treasure trove of gems gems and crystals inside the mountains. Deep in the frigid north. You don't sense anything peculiar about the water but you do sense that the big monster. Trask is about three miles. Away is getting close and it seems to be moving slowly or it is perhaps it is sunset it could. It looks like it's waiting for night gig. We get some and just like a giant moth and let the giant moth fight the dinosaur. Aw just just spitballing throwing ideas out. Yeah that's good absolutely do that. Okay I ask if anyone has seen a giant moth recently yes up here the the big one man. It was a hundred feet branches. Big Three inches. Okay It's a big mothman enlarging spells. Hey Kid Carey some cannonballs. Yeah the ball I take. How many cannibals can I carry so many? Because they're so strong. I'll carry a box sweet. I think we should take out the Horn Bala over Shan as soon as we see him on the horizon. We'll blow that can get these workers we learn it. Oh Yeah Ghost pirates come out those pirates. Yes yeah so I saw one. That's so cool. I should've blown it when I had a yet. Why don't you do the honors? Whenever we see yeah I offer like a little handkerchief kerchief to wipe off the mouthpiece need that sharing spy is a field Elf tradition? I know what you're right I spit on the mouthpiece. Thank you the alone. He's he's not rude our spin on the mouth. I Apologize I spent on. The mouth is in a while ago mother other spin. So it's just one dinosaur right. That's what we're doing your be mean you say one while you guys are talking one of the frost stories. Okay you guys and he goes just one dinosaur. No but then all the giants to what you're talking about the weird giants with holes in is soon you guys didn't hear about that yet. Failed to mention net. y'All got a war room where we don't know what's going on we. Just there's no that dinosaur show up giants show up everyone the walking and pan them toward city where all pretty flustered right now and kind of just going by the seat of our pants as it were. Okay well this snow you got here. Do you think I could mud board on it. I guess we got a bit. There was a word for it. I think you could motherboard on the. Maybe maybe we're all leave. Surfin what are you should be a teacher feature thank you. Wow listen what is snow except for extremely cold mud. Exactly just clean mud in that so it's just lean as possible. We're pretty much a plane where everything's going. There's no like valley aspects or so basically you've got the water on one side to the south and to the north there's like a mountain in range so they can only come from east to west. They can only attack from the east essentially so everybody is preparing pointing. Their crossbows does setting their lines up in this one direction. It's the only direction anybody can come from. I think Mavericks is going to take a take a step and be like hey guys a AH things have changed with me since I last saw you. I've gotten a little bit more bad ass. I guess you could say that you know sometimes to learn you have to have wings. I don't get the O. Oh out of these two holes in his shirt to do dragon wings popout. Wow the skin in between the bones. Yeah yeah there's sort of a tribal tattoo going on in the in the in the actual the I'll see you later members. Well just fly up and just get a lay of the land. Dan like an eagle eye. View sweet go ahead and perception check NAT twenty mavs. You see in the a deep deep distance it gets quite foggy out in the frigid north. But you do see heads bobbing and just Kazan defied giants marching towards the city. A couple of miles away so hollow body has a hollow squatty. All Right Mavericks. I just want to double check. Take a whole look in every direction and then come back down and then relay that everybody adding sweet. Yeah you look in every direction the task would have to be coming from that direction. It's surrounded by mountains on the other side and ocean on the other side so just one direction for them to attack from I I feel like I should be out in. The front lines might corral some of these orphan looking kid useless up here. I'm going with use groper. Excellent Mavericks could you fly Limi- out so that I could just land directly on a giant or dinosaurs head. Yeah I was kind of hoping for the same thing I could do. We could take turns. Oh I also do that I do. I get my mud board an I do an absolutely sick trick. That flies me seventy feet up in the air. Eh this rules. That's do you have to be back on the floor by the end of my term. Very high we'll get you there apple just land so oh hard and you know that if you were in her arms you would die. But she's fine interesting. I'll just throw you. I'll just jump up is a canon throw so you were a dinosaur. It sounds great moonshine. Do you WanNa go with Mavericks and I'll go with stumper. Yea whoever can take me out there go okay before we go. I do want to do a quick inspiring speech to give everyone a little extra. HP I take A. I'm going to have to look it up. It's a good amount so I think it's like everyone in Dr Party and then maybe a couple of the doors on the wall over the guy with the horn. Hey what's what's going on over here. You saying something inspiring or I do like gay straight up Era Gore and like walking up and down the ramparts sort of thing. I like check people's helmets and be like this will hold. I'm forty nine years old kid. It's a good sword. Who the hell are you with pride? Say all of them like if you fight. Well if you fuck if you love if you eat a rat you make it through this this I guarantee you you now frost win to go ahead and give me a jackal. Beverly till after four Allah parental choice. You can also do great beverly up as he's talking to you all right. Give him a boost. I twenty three. You see a bunch of the soldiers. Just raise their weapons up. We're going to. Aw finally say definitely we'RE GONNA party. Is everybody going down on the front lines. I guess maybe I want to go to the frontlines. You don't have to worry about driving me off on him just yet though. I WANNA stay on the wall and then I'll all move to react once we know more. Okay I should've been I'll I'll blow the although the horn now. Then they're the beserk. Come out for an hour sweet horn. Oh Yeah right yes. Of course pirate. Zombie pirate ghosts on bees to me. I Ah Apple. Blows firing the horn. Uc Frost were pirates. Show Up. Hey We're here to plunder the the bad guys God. That was a long pause yeah sorry. We're not the best pirates with everybody. It's too cold out here. Not that many people come not a lot of plundering so one day we decided to kind of come in and just read the Docs ironed orbs. Hey killed us. Tell us the story later traps in everyone's already dead. Hey so everybody gets down on the front lines. You guys see that King Cyrus Dane is here leading squads of troops giving inspiring speeches and whatnot eventually. The sunsets cast Berry Berry great poets a token of good luck of every I completely uh uh speaking of speaking of good Berry cooter came along with you guys. Did you guys want coudert above. Yeah Right. Yeah cougars there cutter. Oh He's a Crook Alvin Kevin. He's GonNa be passing out. He's GonNa be Kinda like when you go on a marathon and someone's handing out gatorade. He's going to be like that but with healing post. He's in way over my head so I'm just GONNA run around supply of bananas to hand out in case we get cramps. Should I have brought bananas your good man juice boy. How right that makes sense cooter for this? We're going to go surfing okay. All right or mud boarding. I really hope so. You guys hear horns go off signaling the enemy approaching then the dwarf in war-drums begin to beat stir my heart don't don't With each beat of the drum you feel the earth shaking these little earthquakes and then you start to notice notice that the quakes aren't quite sinking up with the drums and then the quake's become more violent. You see the soldiers near. Are you look around nervously. It's strangely quiet. There's kind of no talk amongst anybody. You see the mist of the. I'm I'm cold. Breath coming out of their mouths and then you see the enemy approaching. There are lines hundreds of undead giants with hollowed out is they trudge forward with unnatural gates. Some of them have broken ankles. Others are missing body parts and drag themselves along. You hear a roar that shakes the earth shakes the wall behind you. You see big chunks of ice breaking off the wall and sliding down down you have to cover your ears and take a wide stance to keep your balance and then you see it. The TARASCO this humongous siege siege monster with a thick shiny carapace and huge horns a terrifying maw and a long tail with huge spikes. WCHS on the end of it. You see that it's is sockets are empty save for black smoke and the red fiery eyes his of acrobats. You and everyone around you jolt with this unnatural fear. There is a panic within can you. That is it's not logical it is just purely a survival instinct. It's fight or flight and you WANNA fly You WanNa go. Thank God we ate that bloody burrito than you guys are immune to being feared but you guys see as soon as the TARASCO comes into view the line start breaking and you see a bunch of the frost running and the braver ones get out of line with the task and just getting the position to fight giants instead and you see. They're clearing the line for this task. Essentially as it runs straight towards you you giants. I think that's our job is to fight the giants over here. Somebody's gotTA handle. Somebody's got a handle. The giants science there are a lot of the horns more. Can we get there once. CERT- go circle. Just thousands of the soldiers are like running goes with you wherever than I intimidate these guys into fighting the trask with us. Okay apple go ahead and make an opposed intimidation humiliation check against the task. Can I help run this. I feel like I'm still holding me in her arms so we're just like shouting at all the doors. Great uh-huh where're you going. Hey Hey ooh that is a natural twenty out holy shit get back in bloody line. You Cower Howard yeah fight dead. Dinosaur a bunch of a bunch of the dwarfs turn to go run. Apple gets in front of him and grabs one by the collar and turn it back around that one and a bunch of other ones are more scared of apple than they are of the trash. He's a born general and turn around to join you guys. So here is how the combat here is going to work with the dwarves helping you on initiative twenty. There's basically there's thousands of of them. A lot of them are fighting giants but some of them will be helping you guys fight the task. They are going to roll a d ten times six and and that's how much damage they do. Every turn just with thousands of cross bolts if the Rask does damage to the dwarves kills a bunch of squads. The multiplier apply to go down time six times five times four times three until they're wiped out it was supposed to start at five. But you to have rallied a bunch. So that'll be time six more persuasion. Sure Yeah I'm going to fly over to some others that are running away and say surely these brave doors aren't running away from a dinosaur and some big old goons right That's eighteen. You See. They look up at the dude. We're not running away. We're going to fight giants. That's what we do with. Okay all right well cool about week configuring diving. I want to put my hand into the snow. And the ice and cast conjure minal minor elemental 's and and I want some in ideally some kind of Elemental well I have the stats here that I want but I don't I don't know if this is all mental. Yeah that's great yes ate. It is methods little ice methods appear. Hello my babies for you. Yeah nieces the never yeah everyone come in meet your nieces and nephews before they go fight the big dead dragon or dinosaur pick up quick on the the lineage thing. Yeah No witless very important in the fields and the creek free. Do you want some toffees family. I've got some daddy's to call no wake up my daddy's from their Hammer We're home where it's cold as hell and sucks ass. Ah Hot tonight boys. Oh that is the best hot tub in earned the one I will go ahead and cast vow of committee on the TARASCO. You can see it great and I would like to click my boots of speed and get super whizzy. Great yes the beast mode on. 'cause I got my thing so I can do to concentrations bowman the cameras handing down all of us as we get prepped Don. I'm symbiotic but I'm also doing extra damage and Calling up my little ICE BABIES AND PAPA turns into the Fungal Form Green Marine Maverick ticks to bud heavies in runs up to Chicago. This with me and I'll pounds it one-two-three uh-huh you guys see. The TARASCO takes off heading towards the wall straight towards you guys in between it and the wall you guys see the giants science run in front of it and next to it the dwarves pull the trap. The spiked rack comes up and stabs a bunch of the giants. You See. I'm a bunch of them are caught but a bunch of other ones. Just climb over it and the trask just bursts through it and keeps coming through everyone go ahead and roll initiative. Let's go the baby. Ten twenty two fourteen sixteen moonshine. That is your turn. I how close Serena this dinosaur fifty feet away all right Well first off. I'm sending my mineral mental. My little is methods to go after him three. And they're all GonNa use their frost breath. Okay so all eight of them are gonNA exhale a fifteen foot cone of cold air each creature in that area area must exceed a DC. Ten dexterity saving throw or take a to D four coal damage. Okay so he's gotTa do eight. Eight dexterity throws colic me trying to get whatever resistance out of the way nice all right passes I one. When Rosewood advantage on passes second one passes third one fourth one passes fifth one? Six one seven one passes on I guess I kill myself I I still love. You baby's okay. Well even if he passes he still gonNa take half the damage. So I'M GONNA roll. Roll Your De Force. You see you. These tiny little ice methods fly up proud of us. Breathe the breath on this monster who does not break stride stride. Were get an ice cream after this. You're making the ice cream unfortunately but we are getting it on. I think we can go home. These guys got it takes half thirty one so takes fifteen. Yeah fifteen damage. Yeah and then I guess only know to do because I didn't I was planning on burning his legendary resistances and I can't. I can't fucking do anything on him. I mean he's not going to use his legendary resistance. Tiny thing they have to choose to resist it. Yeah well he still saved them all. Yes so I guess I'm just going to attack him okay. The first person to go after him Nat twenty bits. Can you three not twenty tonight. Good Lord eat my fucking drink rink. It up told you to feed her ass. I believe she asked impolite. Excuse me Sir please eat my ass. Sorry Sir please to eat my ass key suck it up. Lisa sure okay. I hadn't ver forty and asked him for eighteen. More so fifty-eight damage. It's kind of damage or you're doing for the sports. This four is I'm GONNA do. I'm GONNA do acid right on. He's not resistant to that Nice. And then Papa's GONNA tax relief. Yeah you guys see these stores were super nervous. They had this unnatural. Fear started to scatter apple. scrubber grabs is a bunch of turns him back around a bunch of them are shamed and join their brothers and sisters and the other soldiers start charging the task with you guys. Moonshine leads the charge. Whips out the sword instantly like gets under the CARAPACE and just explosion of fire. She stabs into it fire and then Pablo Mrs with good reason. That is the dwarfs turn. The doors are just going to rather than dealing with every single one you guys see crossbows and swords and cannon fire from all directions and every single DWARF DWARF together does a big forty damage. Matter said it's your turn hell yeah never versus and I think it just feels like the goal is to just hit this dude a lot and so this is GonNa take flight and start flying to try to get in range of the TARASCO sweet. How from the wall if I was on? It's a few hundred feet from the wall at this point it's out on the front lines with all of these guys but I'll say if your intention attention was to attack first round something close up. I'll say that you flew close okay. Nice Maverick's is GONNA fly and keep flying while he gets closer to the task and and just let's get this party started. I'm on fucking Sabbatical. Cast six level spell sunbeam. Okay Sunbeam is is a beam of brilliant light lashes out from your hand enough five foot wide sixty foot long line which creature in the line must make a constitution saving throw or on a failed save a creature take six sixty eight radiant damage and blinded until your next turn spring break motherfucker successful save. It's half as much and isn't blinded uses uses have disadvantage great address. Go ahead and Roll A D. Six FERMI Five Okay Mavericks you shoot your beam at this. You see it had the shiny carapace you see as soon as the beam hits set just carapace Shimer's and it takes no damage. This is what Alana's told us he's immune to magic he's immune noon to mit story. Said I take Libro others bash that this okay so this also the spell lasts for a minute and every you can create a new line of radiance as your action. Any turn until the spell ends so I will just keep the spell going and go ahead we do in our Khanna. How good is your economy? The unschooled I mean he's a professor Mr the school twelve based on what you just saw happen. You get the sense that if it was something. That wasn't a Malay spell attack doc or something that's shot in a direct line. Might be harder for it to reflect it. GOTCHA can can be good with a twelve. That's all you get Apple that is your turn great. I'm going to go into a rage. And how far away is this dinosaur. Close enough to you guys. You can run forward great so I I am going to pick up young Web Gulick lay and I'm GONNA fly up so we're on the back of the of this dinosaur sore okay stubby little arms and I'm GONNA attack. Is it a quadrupedal or okay. Cool Sixteen sixteen not hit rate in my second attire. The nineteen does not talk. Well then I will hang out and write it lake. I meant to not who are you hanging on the back of the TARASCO guys go ahead and give me dexterity. Saving throws to stay on the have advantage on dexterity. Did he say you can add to that as well. Sick at twenty three twenty seven okay. shadow to the two crew. I can grab him if not I'm not I'm not your turn my extremities plus three five. That's going to be often nine. Okay you are all act like it's a big never got a tiny very tight. How did you get? Are you sure you rolled the right guy they had a lot of stuff to it. This rask flings beverly off Apple. You are hanging on Rodeo style. Bev View fall prone near the task. The task is going to use. Feather falls reaction. Yeah so I- land on my feet. Okay yeah allow well you know if you use your reaction you can let on your feet. It's going to make a bite attack against Bev is a twenty nine to hit here. We go thirty four damage you guys see see at Bites in Tibet and hold him down grappling him with his mouth then is going to take a claw attack. That's twenty six just ahead twenty-eight damage on the first attack makes a second claw attack twenty five damage bath makes an attack with its horns rams into drives you into the ground that is a thirty one to hit thirty two damage. And then I'm going to say if it's got you with its mouth. It's going to turn around and swing its tail at Moonshine. It's a little wacky for you. That is twenty eight. Hit moonshine Mrs Moonshine. You Take twenty-six damage and you are knocked prone just whips you in the stomach. You fly back land on your back so I failed a concentration check So the one that I put on my hat stays but I'm going to dismiss the minor elemental because they would have to recharge their breath weapon. Gresh I'm not GonNa wait there on your ice cream next time. Good here room. That is hard ones turn. Okay I'm on Sabbatical to walk this thing up. Aw School's out you also see that this thing is trying to eat. Beverly like swallow him all right sweet. So can I go and smash my hammer into into its mouth to try to let beverly scurry away. Yes you can either do a regular weapon attack into your damage when you hit or you can do who attacked basically like shove bev out of the way or put your hammer in it's mouth and block it's gotTa pick one. You wouldn't do damage in that and got I'll do. I'll I'll put the hammer ever. Its mouth is weightless out of there right on. Okay go ahead and make it make an attack when he six that hits you successfully put put your hammer in its mouth Bev. You find like a split second to roll out of the way you cannot be chomped at that is hard when you can take your other attacks. Thank you around Sabbatical okay. So I'm done picking this thing's teeth with a hammer and I'm going to try to hit it in the face great twenty-three to hit that does not hit. Oh my a God. Let's wait. What did you twenty three? I had my I had my Davidge Dicey man bound nor does the Dragon Ball Z thing. Impossible impossible I'll take the third attack. You know what that was also not gonNa work but I will wait. I'm GonNa let my door daddy's yeah he'll hill do a saving throw totally fails twelve damage sweets. And I'M GONNA action can keep on beating about right on Dan. None of those who are GonNa hit it was twenty twos and a fourteen so hard one at the end of your turn going to take a legendary action and it is going going to take a tech against you takes a swing at you. That is a twenty five to hit as a reaction. Can I call a the old Yes you can use your Dwarf Daddy's you have the magic initiative feats a shield pops up I pound my hammer against my chest. What is your AC now twenty? Six Baby Bell once again goes impossible crushing power power levels. He's on like very hot bed. That is your turn. I'll Look at my own amulet then and then as my action I will cast a haste on apple scrubber and now it's happening surf surf through this cold mud with all your speed might at the end of your turn GonNa take another legendary action and take a tale attack against hard one forty Farida. So I guess. Even that gets passed my shield going three heading me no. I did the math wrong. Thirty thirty nine. That is a strength saving through twenty six. Okay you do not get knocked prone but you do take nick twenty four damage that is bound turn boundaries gonna Tries Dang hardest I swing Mrs Second. Swing Mrs Crit. On the last thing he does nineteen damage and of balanced. Turn going to take another swing at yard. One Twenty eight to hit my hellish review. You can yeah all right. Cool does have immunity to fire. Unfortunately I'll just do it because it's going to look cool. I thought you shoot some fire back at it. You see its carapace reflects you take your doors. No I can do that. They're a goal man. You take take thirty to damage. Ouch okay so apple the ghost. I've never gone First off role to four plus two to see how many show up that is Eight four now. I got two full plus two Audis from now on they will attack on your turn but for now make tax for they need to roll on that twenty two hit okay. How many so just ate a roll? Eight eight twenty s and Nope nope. Okay nobody heads and they look very cool. I'm trying to help just to be clear. is to be their story. They all on their own little snowboards. Yeah yeah they do have their own little mutt boards. Pirates win the endorphin soldiers hit and do damage. It's like cannon fire Ballista in like thirty dude shooting crossbows it is like every single person hitting does like a fraction of damage that adds up that. Is Moonshine Stern. I get get up and I'm going to ask a bonus action cast grasping byng okay and the creature must succeed dexterity. Saving throw or be pulled so I'm going to create it like thirty feet away and so the vinyl grasp at him and try and pull him away he'll do do I also have to save him on his back. No you'll just decide to bail or stay. I'll stay. That is is only a sixteen only sixteen hour. I'm twenty okay. Let's fail so he just gets pulled thirty feet. He gets pulled a twenty feet toward the Vine Street. He he gets. You see him get pullback. He's happy with what he knocking pieces. Shit I can't do anything until you're fucking resistance. Gone I just to pop. I'll give you a raise. My sister I can't and cast spells. You're right we have spell check to see what the fuck is up for this purpose sink. I'd rather take the health action on. I'm just going to run and try to hit him. Sweep does a twenty nine hit does all right right. I T- The day sixteen in eighteen thirty four chuck on it with their intelligence. Sure yet I can do. Oh Do I have a bonus to my intelligence while I have this thing on plus five all right I'll do Khanna check twenty not net dirty twenty it is a reflective carapace purpose anything you shoot at it magically is not gonNa work are there are that is our weakness point in it no is it. There's their zipper piranhas. I can UNZIP it if I see a hole in it. Yes if you cut a hole in his body and kill him then spells but if I just like a light hole in it and Monier just zap him in that whole. That is the dwarf Murph while other Shenanigans. Okay to ask. Let's give it a soft underbelly does have a soft underbelly. No it's really valley. They dwarves did really bad. They only did ten image. Is this round. That is marriage stern. Fuck come down here. I have an ax. You can borrow. Now it'd be very sick. I'm going to cast fly on hard one Shit Scrub Brecca job to join me. In the Sky Sky I'm going to cast it out of the fourth level. I'm GonNa hit Bev with thank you. That is Apple Stern. Whoever might do anything but attack this giant creature that I'm on? Yeah you're still up Bonnett you haven't it's GonNa every time but he's still on it. That's fine with me. Two Twenty three twenty three doesn't hit rate. Twenty-three does not hit. No and I got a twenty eight twenty. Does he hits. So That's just twenty. Two HIP Tunechi damage. Sorry sorry Battle or you WANNA get up here. No reassure a bevy almost died dexterous. Okay well I'll just keep on hanging out of here then shy apple go ahead and you're right. Yeah we're still here with strong. Your tricks be sick you can do create a go I got. I rolled three nineteen off really brutal. They do not hit. That is the TARASCO turn at the beginning of the tasks turn apple. Go ahead and do a sturdy saving through the outside of your thing now on your on the Yeah yeah okay so I got an eighteen. Eighteen passes great. You can stay on it Okay this task is it's not near dead But you guys have done a decent amount of damage to it and it it is trying to focus up Of the people who are currently on the ground hard one moonshine and Bev. Go ahead and give me pure luck checks. Oh Val nor to three balanarayana threes. Well Roloff no need no need to to challenge. Take second to okay. This thing is going to charge forward at Beth. Here's a question. Yeah this isn't bullshit as a half fling I'm nimble and also stealthy around large creatures. Does that help me at all. No not in that. You would need to take like a high or something so this this thing charges forward at Bev first thing that's going to do his tail attack. That is a twenty nine. Hits Hits Twenty five damage and then I need a strength saving. Throw from you okay. This guy really hates teens. He loves beating up teens discussing. We're the supper own. The teams just bold bulging accurate. I coming out of its socket looking at your creepy as a strange man who is incited dinosaur inappropriate out of the damn seventeen leering at you. You're too big for the teen zone. Aren't you embarrassed streak Strang saving throw. That's going to be ten plus four fourteen you are knocked prone fall down. That is a thirty thirty two to. He's he hasn't had a turn he hasn't moved. That is a thirty two hit hits. That's rolling good. Feel like he has a plus nineteen to hit so yeah really about rolling good Zayd that is even if he roll the one he would hit me. That is twenty. Eight damage on the horns takes one claw attack twenty-six two hits thirty damage on the first attack. Who'll second attack thirty three fantastic twenty-nine damage up Ryan? Sorry I'm going to take a bite attack. These miss obsolete absorb forty one hundred on down. It's fucking truly ridiculous. I'm sorry thirty. Three damage bath and down. Okay yes I guess he goes down. You GotTa hit a million times. I'd get to we'll be flying. I'm flying already Eddie. I can feel myself flying his body once again once again. You see this thing is getting ready to devour Beth white doc. Brake dyno zone. That is your turn hard one sweet. I'M GONNA fly into its mouth again. Okay and this well I guess not again. This is the first time I've flown. Oh and this is the first time I've done this in a while and I'm going to stick my a you know what I'm gonNA stick my javelin into its mouth to try to prop it open. Open okay go ahead and make an attack real. That is thirteen point. It's worked alligator all the way back in moonstone this again twenty-seven with javelin javelin okay cool that hits you're able to poke into it you don't do damage but you stab into it in just enough time to get to roll out of the way all right so then since the javelin is in there with my second attack I call lightening onto it with your second attack. Oh you okay you want to split it between two attacks. Yeah I will allow that. Yeah okay. Is he going to take if we hit him in the mouth. Does he take these this kind of things. This is not a line spell. This is a weapon that is like exploding lightning okay. How soft does is now? We shouldn't target his mouth. No this isn't a video game attack his mouth fourteen damage right on mouth okay. I'm uh-huh and then I'm going to attack it in the mouth with my hammer sweet. What if we make a bomb really yummy? Then he would eat. Certainly that only a twenty twenty one that does not hit the threat. Are you flying away or are you staying. Can I grab Beth. I will let you do a Ed X.. Check against it doesn't have great decks. See who was able to grab. I fou- that's a net one and I'll use another luck. That's in that twenty one. Then I truly Oh my God odd money twenty cents then hearts really what a painful painful handful fumble beverly. I dropped the boy as this thing swings into him with legendary claw attack. You just set it up for an alleyoop without one kid. That is in auto credit. Bevy take sixty damage. But it's to death saving throws I'm see Bev struck down hits the snow bill in an incredibly Awkward Angle. I will say We have not been rolling for cooter. COOTER is going to go at the end of every round of someone's out he will try to give them a good berry and help them but he's GonNa go at the end of the round. That is beverly stern joy. Cour cannot get to yet you will make one death save and if you fail it Beverly Everley Togo. The fifth is dead. and that's rule under episodes guys. 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Resident Evil Video Games

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Resident Evil Video Games

"He called like something that was chasing him a penis monster it was funny and it was we were kids and it was resident evil. I'm Tom Caitlyn I'm cory cory is joining us from the interwebs again I'm in the INTERWEBS. 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Io backslash patriarch John he told much toasts tell the folks at home what else brings us the of comic books have been inspired by such works as resident evil by checking out nerd on I owe back says comics algae the Internet's one game com books we had I had no idea how unprepared I was because you never played three or more games had no idea that there were that many and also our show to Steve Case Crusaders his favorite holiday as well of course and he always does something fun and awesome but Resin Evil it's a game there were so many like I didn't know about the Spin Offs I didn't know about all these things so when I was going to research I thought it was one two three four five six seven like a researching the timeline researching even the release time line it was very enlightening because I haven't played as many of them And so how is this so afraid because I wanted to wanted to play it I wanted to try it it wasn't the old twenty four of them yeah there's o much spinoffs I had no idea and getting to dig into the boys got into comics are link so use it to access comics algae and just know if you use that link it does help the show and keep when we were through our twitch streams playing seven together I was lost in terms of from plot standpoint I was her yeah my my experience has been with the mainline series yeah and I always knew about the offshoots but I never cared plan and stuff like that I don't a most of the of the main series of three four five six five and six I haven't but yeah just you know I mean in all honesty it was a hype train thing it was also I've heard that it's one of the best horror horror survival game I've never finished her as an evil game I just you're welcome here I hope so yeah I do realize that I've never actually finished one the ballot enough reason to the game itself isn't necessarily like rely on your knowledge of Resume Wolf I don't think no because the number of seven is daunting because it's from an evil good job Gosh I'm so proud of you and I remember playing it little I I will say I have never ever finish 'cause you're scared little baby by an scared little baby experiment and then we played glover's different anyway able was I believe it was reasonable to rent it from blockbuster rental company no a lot of this franchise I had no idea I think you kind of in a way a ledge led us to initial reaction to an our first impression and I just remember being simultaneously enthralled and terrified that I couldn't move and shoot your it was psycho show start from the beginning do I wanna do I wanNA ride hype train and those are completely valid reasons and that's the way I wanNA ask why Josh's specifically before Kaelin I played his Leon I think the first time I played and then December four year renaissance appalling players right before it may maybe the beginnings afford it but I watched a ton of videos I wanna see I do WanNa play that really bad and it looks amazing and remained Leon's just shit but I've gone yeah but that was it was just fun and he called like something that was chasing him a penis monster it it was funny and it was we were kids and it was games in a long time and I was like all right I'll check it out and so it it yes so that getting to see that I yeah I was like wow there's play two four five six and seven as as well as zero resident evil zero which is a pretty one which I've never played when we first saw the dog on the ceiling oh please stationed there isn't able to determine that's when I was sold on it I loved it before but when it was kind of confusing miss a lot about it but I had a ton of fun I put it on the we which was a weird experience I don't know if anyone else it was a it was arcade style isn't as fun it was it was way hard but to and and we'll go deeper into that later which my favorites are we use motion controls were not one to one at that what happened I was like Oh this is a different type of game so yeah I've to this day I'll be really honest with you never played one to this to this day I played so scared to get get some distance take a few shots and then run around in a circle get some distance shots I will never forget the sheer terror that he and I shared when generally as a Gamer I don't like I'm more like I play fewer games for longer route rather than play like I didn't even know that they obliged game so yeah they didn't like the game was worse getting before six seventy probably no so I played it on the playstation so you have a rifle with the we and like aimed at the TV like an arcade game shouted we're yeah those are taking called the light gun games as we got into the French yeah let's say like our Josh thank you for that was that your first resonable game no no no no I remember when the original came out on like ps one. When my Buddy Chris Carlin shout out to the night and I got to play his Leon who to this day is still my favorite resin evil character Like it was like a sleepover whatever my friend was playing mad and I was kind of it was the sex buy yes below between sessions we will go players a installments type you're the one game that has a lot of len yeah now nowadays pot or some shit like that right but my first my first experience with L. so started with two two on playstation proud of me Tom I say my brain quit for the only place to learn and she would have the guide with their as far as I can just like help me out if I don't know like what I'm getting myself if I die multiple times I'm like the next evolution or the next step resin evil experiences have been playing the remake which is streamed on twitter and that was my first ever playing and then I played his comeback was was that religion release it Sa- Code Veronica on June cast that was because I was watching your friend plant it came out of the properties artifacts assets yeah for more it just give me the guide but we played it was like you know again that fun of watching her friend playing it but it's like my sister just like kind of just being supportive and making sure like I can play the game seven with you guys on twitch and After that I had friends who played like two in front of me and three in front of me but that was mainly point they were more closer one wondering we you also zero is just a difficult game like it's it's one of the more I would say it's one of the most difficult resonable games yeah I mean they really upped the ante played a little bit of which when we play Corey six six we played a little bit of six and that was kind of madness for me and Ali bride stop playing I started never played them as a kid. 'cause I always super afraid to play them I think the scariest like twisted metal scary for me because like a sweet tooth and audio listeners my applause broke Galen Galen Kane the survival horror difficulty after two yeah because they wanted they wanted to prevent people from actually renting games one zero came out after Gamecube brought something cube rolling this is worth it so I was playing and I after that I got into the world what resin evil was and then map or something I can't remember but I never really use it as a guide I feel like strategy guys the the name is false strategy guide like it just tells you things with the Guide and bought the Guy Because I was like I've never played one did you got it and I played it with my my sister shout to my sister Tammy worser playing like the the remakes or seven I watched actually the the I started watching live action films but then I started watching the animated films and that are rooted in the video game lore wow so degeneration was the first one I think they made in that stars Leon Kennedy and He runs it to Claire me neither I think those gifted this oh well I didn't really use it though because that's kind of against the point of a resume game I feel but I did I might have picked at once so I'm going to be a little bit the outsider with experience level wise because most of what I've played with this was like I think it was a cabinet like anarchy so it's it's kind of fun to see where the story wants to kind of go in these little off brand V as if you will yeah but yes I didn't actually start getting into until I got a Gamecube and the first game I ever played was the one that fucking change the franchise for better or for worse reservoir four I have not personally played through these games but I was very intrigued by them and went out of my way to watch let's plays game because they used to go to like Mister Gatti's and bowling alleys and whatever so I only experienced little chunks of it at a time and then when I was at friend's houses and they were playing I so Josh I also was a scary little bitch and I never played any the reason being was yeah that's the one more game that is not a number whatever but yeah like the seven I haven't we've I've experienced seven as much as we have experienced onstream oh that's been my experience would rise naval force and this was going to finish like so I've played zero I have worked very hard to be more okay was arby's now Shaun of the dead scared me if that tells you anything no a printer just went off a few minutes ago and you went ouch like hiding behind three pillows but still what like watching under tiny bits of pillow or if it was a let's play it had to be someone who could can you know but the first game I really got into Resin Yvo was Code Veronica Acts Colorado I wanna say notice good rock on your guest ex other people okay scary Guidon so you've got a pretty good likely through blake couch if it were friends playing a game I was on the I am not great with scary games if you guys have been in on the twitter streams I'm not agree with Sarah Game Scary subjects anything really I which I do want to I don I hate to take away anyone's save spot safe space but like if the zombies are attacking you I think pillows wouldn't do anything to say I think also but I mean sometimes they were good where it's like hey you can choose to like fight this boss now or to find him later he'll be better the boss better heart because this is also back in the day when you go to E. Games more you go to a game stop and then when you bought a game they can offer you like X. amount percent off never played one game two is still one of my favorites I haven't I've watched a lot at the time that the remake came out unfortunately I haven't really we all experienced together all yeah and then we played resonator monster Ceylan like Margaret Player I was the one that I wash all the time because he would find ways to like make scary things funny yeah and that was only way that I could I could take in scary games yeah and and I will say that my training kind of getting more okay winning might literal training was playing games like left for dead it took me a very long time to I just protecting her eyes from seeing kind of versus actual like like I can get away from the scary thing as quickly as possible either undying it's my see me and that okay well Tom and I played resident evil to me out as far as things got of me like hiding under pillow and sometimes playing cabinet game or watching a movie what the fuck we do did you forget that leaving the hunts sorry you're right but yeah so I have not personally play these games but I enjoyed watching them and the puzzles that happened in the Hi and Yep I shied away from it and I played like all the cabinet games in arcades of like time crisis in like house dead which was like there's inspired by this by they break into song scares me pretty much every time a fair so the jump scares are there are there are there and they got me but the what we did on the Stream is the most that I've like Fred when that's not watching it is radio book hard cover strategy guide for as new will wow did strategy guys in hardcover the I saw but I saw some of the live action ones for games I know I'm aware I'm just saying that's my frame of reference for this franchise so that's that's a margarite with their nests little Gucci Gucci and all the things that come out of Aki but but I did watch some of the like I think I forget which I titles sweet home which was a horror genre game which you're one character and you're going through this house of Horror Madness and when the yeah and that's the one we start with Leon Kennedy you got to save the president's dot or anyways so that's my that's my favorite I to me the whole to close anyway Hans to paint peak or revelations even start and I was like no I don't WanNa do this anymore there is a big scary I and Bar Oh yeah that's cool because I mean and we'll talk about it glee mountains in to it gets expanded where this virus has expanded the city and in three weeks of two where it uses characters stations assets to create three d models the world's and created the first ever horror survive survival horror genre so this was the first thing they and they actually it's like stick to his like stay close his back hit you because that's his weak these guys lot in how fantasy games from work because I wanted to collect and I want you wanna find that one got the lead developers of the game which Kayla mentioned the potatoes they decided they wanted to remake it and they were going over a bunch of tests voters and they realized they can use a lot of the place the big old deal and we're like yeah we should probably play a game and all that stuff to prepare for this episode and we played it Yeah we've played two right to present evil outlast outlast too all under the didn't think it was going to sell as many copies as it did it wasn't like a huge blockbuster but it would you know how we live in a world of his seventh one and then a new project game is gonNA come out whereas a team survive resistant product resistance by the time we're recording this but the game in itself follows characters who are in a house and they find this mysterious lab and realize that people I've been resurrected or reanimated through a virus that was created and tested on in this mansion in the he's officer but later on yeah I know and later on Code Veronica which was never actually supposed to be like the game but then under much rewrites they actually hired a Hollywood producer or Hollywood writer to write the story for two and that's why I played much more actiony and it was way hard almost gonna RS episode but I think it does serve tell or stock about with our audience a little bit of the history of the game in terms of the the industry as well as the story in the lower joy those games but I really wanted to not be scared of it so I went out of my way to play some Zombie Game Horseshoe game so you could like crafted bat chainsaw thing if you need it the annual WanNa take a shot at it I didn't preparing you tom okay so forever and we were doing all right you and I couldn't play the game it was the one on the island training ernest the strength of a great typhoon where mysterious in the dark side of the moon yes I can fight the Mongols sat through the most controllers in my hands for one of those games I'm desperate for very much because I may have blacked out when it was happening let us some of the mainstay characters in there But I mean yes so this is a little bit interesting episode there won't be any guest room there won't be reading or anything because we're talking about the franchise I hold actually supposed to be three resin evil three nemesis was actually supposed to be an offshoot because the original great game designer wanted to to be the end he wanted to the the way back from the flowers and by the time we get to seven sales have gone up and down wax and wane between all these actual numbers that have been this is a whole brand new episode of Thirty Games for Thirty one service so forever at home that's a first time listening to resume or everyone heard arise naval resin you've been part of the Capcom history and Lore for for a over decades now and as Ali introduced it was based off of one of cap comes an four was not much of a like a Lord change but more of a genre change and created like the mega blockbuster video game where it sold over a million copies first time we're going to first person perspective while it kind of it shifted because it's like they would they would have a game that was very much more action oriented in it sold well and they're like that for that like so you go from the stars characters of your Chris Redfield Joe Valentine Nia Claire Redfield assistive crashing Leon Candy who is an reconciled Albert Westerns dead spoilers and we went back to a horror genre survival horror genre and the way the survival horror genre is depicted and turned it to a more shooter game and then this would also follow for five and six but it wasn't until five that you start learning where the actual strand of the t virus came we're GonNa do that and then it doesn't sell well people and people are like no we want that horror survival game and they're like okay we'll do that but it doesn't sell as well and then they kind of like you were saying her but with the end of two it expanded everything where those govern espionage and umbrella and then there's other companies and that's one eight eight along in so through six a beaten all you beat the number one is not the offer sheet yeah I is an issue but it was not sprite including that bats I guess so then in a home it's you have limited amount of inventory you're you're going through a close confined space isn't so open world which later four five hundred produce so it's like oh there's more a large Code Veronica is the one that really kind of like slammed opened the doors a sand lake this goes back to way back in the day when they were testing this virus out thing I I the odds are always stacked against me and the way that the character interacts with the geography of the space as well as the enemy is always you know we've now seen at this point of recording evil to had a remake that was like phenomenal everyone fucking loves and again like it was an evolution of they had tried to figure out like should be more action issue we'd be more first business shooter like what worked what didn't work and by the time we get seven another paradigm shift where we got to not the to go back and forth and finally they were like by we'll do a horror survival yeah I was the biggest the departure I would say from the main main line we'll series a bunch of like ran a spinoff such as like resin evil shooter arisen evil shooter to reasonable guidance which was like a science griller and ear disadvantage of course they're scary stuff always a good door open mom black space and and yeah so and like end Leeann Leeann Kennedy and Chris Redfield probably the most fleshed out characters that actually had like storylines that went through and they would intertwine with I log in so for the most part one through six zero through six had followed like the stars in reconsidering what happened the events of city and you had Albert West and then you had Chris Redfield became where it was like real quick time events your try you have objectives you're going from a to be here with a team your shoe it's more shooting game instead of like I am not supposed to kill on and they have had their own remix a remade one for game cube now they may remain to now for all current modern consoles but I think they're kind of wrap things up on everyone welcome to the podcast Albert whisker is like this one dope stars agent to also like a lab assistant but also he's infected and has superpowers and Chris Redfield who's like the punch bowls up really in a sense I mean it's hard to go over like because I mean there are videos that are an hour long that you can get the timeline breakdown and the and then seven was the first time that dialogue inness yet seven but in seven that was the first time they were like we're going to talk about Iraq continued all we're not gonNA talk about virus we're not GonNa Talk About Chris Rock Kentucky Leon going pretty deep into the virus like addressing Pactel cautionary tale haymaker thing also the thing evolves hey there's a TV strand is g strand Sir and then yeah so like their thing evolves into like a plug us so it's more of a sentient being people get Mike controlled S K walk through instead of like strategy of how you talk but Yes for me and so this also all got compounded so who'll fun fact is at through resum evil we actually wouldn't have one of catacombs other highest Sailing a franchises Oh yeah because during when they were developing after three yeah Leeann Kennedy who's like the sixty s sexiest jacket that corey wants it production This was made by Capcom who did strider mega man devil may cry Monster Hunter as Attorney the developing company is also we are like Manzini Puzzles and a lot of it feels very much like resident evil yeah on the slow parts obviously while you're not March twenty second of nineteen ninety six and then the cast The main characters are Chris Redfield Jill Valentine Leeann Kennedy Claire Redfield and time this script I'm just arguing general like I'm from the voice actor community there was a lot of hubbub they including including the mobile games over thirty one there's so many games notable franchises it's movie an animated film series as well the original release date is of when they did the remake and they got new people to do the right there there was 'cause you want the main cast to come back and that didn't happen notable creators Part of this is Shinji Mikami who did God hand Dino Crisis Evil within and then Tokyo Fuji Wild they wanted to put in like ghosts and stuff like that and there's like versions where it's out the ghost version and then skews those assets to make evil within so like there's a lot of in session hey man if you want to give Leon like chain gun I mean I think you get one at some point by Chicago typewriter baby that's the So yeah I mean ogling a demon into the air with your sword and then keeping him in the air with the bullets from your Google also switching between three different fighting styles Easter whatever as yeah I mean is there like an issue here not at all it's like logical is that's not you can have jacket jacket helped me Husker who we've pretty much mentioned everybody at this point and then also I'm sorry I didn't write that down Berry Burton very and yes eight data to mega man Disney Games such as Aladdin. I love that game Little Mermaid Duck Tales and beauty before age beauty yes Corey is GonNa hate this so when I first ever played resin evil four I didn't know what to do Tim O'Neill and Gargoyles that it had a number in the series as says twenty four games to this recording but you said thirty wanders over thirty one over thirty one game we're like no this is too much of departure and then they say let's just make that something else and they called Devil may cry I cry game there's a lot of comparison is between Resident Evil and Silent Hill right yeah but like even then and we posted on our twitter follow follow full I think after that little synopsis and we'll go into retail go into production a little bit of like the developers and the history of it and then we'll go nuclear some parts of our favorite games Taylor favorite things of the Games they agree I won the go ahead no you go no no no you go so Between Different Games it'd be like the sern- different directors but Shinji mecom you'll be the one that oversaw most of the through line is there uh-huh peeps productions it's not a lot I mean obviously there's a lot more people involved than just that list the voice actors have switched out date along this there's a lot of whatever your guy's name characters yeah they're the ones that got the most the the main squad yeah so okay why I still haven't played the original though like I played the remake I play with Jill you get eight slots one of them can be a knife Chris believe Ivan every game of the thirty one Sakurai of trash but yes I mean even then with taxes like hanging out with you like a friend you know hey man we went camping the weapons and also all the heroes in the game are all exemplified oh so yeah there's a lot of cool stuff with resident evil but let's get into the nitty gritty some favorite parts my favorite games is five actually I'm good probably the Wednesday play the most and one of my favorite moments from it is this long tentacle starts to grow out of where its head used to be PALEA YUP and it immediately puts you back in the game like there's no as you it's in the beginning and you kill one of your first zombies and the game you should it's head off as it's attacking some random guy and you think it's dead has your stuff in there but the F- like resident evil one I didn't I played through the original one before the remake we'll know the you like it's forgiving but also at the same time not forgiving right so it's like you've got to learn how to inventory manage and that is like to me that kind of thing where it's like hey like in terms of game design just numbers yeah they're just one cigarettes are in Jesus in terms of game design I really enjoyed that resin evils right so like as any idiot I try to eat my gun and shot the nearest thing with me what do you do you see the first thing when you spawn raising four some crows and you shoot that put making a mess I also love that game because I played through it with a tasty shout your best friend we played does it twitter's the words he was trying to say but they're doing a monster hunter and Resin Evil Crossover Capcom does those kind of things transition back in there's no moment of like sweep there's no camera sweep of like all right you're coming into the character there but you're just suddenly thrust into Chris and Jill Z. Mode because of like how it is and it's pre- it's promoting it's easier gun more or use your knife morton which I never got good so that was a big thing with the remake they gave him more and then your gun or knife as part of your slaughter Harvey Yeah so like the first one is so hard basically visit again I can't remember the name it's too so you got everybody so you get Leon and you get Claire and then also Mr X. Oh it can save them all for the boss go knifing always is doing what to them nine thing look it was the hand gesture it's a one shot kill any normal Zombie heretical collect gyro remember I can't remember the whole thing together when I was in New York in like three sittings that's what came up yeah Oh my God man we quicktime quicktime events thank you and that's one of them and he turns into a big lava Zombie it's it's so terrifying that game has stuck with me more than any of the others right and then cleared out the window in you have this moment I mean there's some in the game there's some what's it called action events action quickly Chevra and you narrow this is this is the one that's like mainly in Africa right yeah yeah it's an Arrow and it's a head shot with it things that resonate with them and and also I wondered why so many of those those like Spooky Games that were coming out for Hoffman at all looked really similar now everything kind of makes sense well the fine thing I think the big company like almost dropped my control because I had put it down to watch the cinematic like I remember reaching over and being like oh no it's over this thing I died the first time it happened because because every resident evil game you play before that kind of has killed his army then suddenly the way it's shot very semantically you see something stand up in the back in Oh and you have to start shooting and killing because immediate starts hitting you too and I just remember that may be one of the moments I've of sheer panic that I felt while playing games but I remember I became a frigging sniper with that thing as and this miss it so much is the one like somewhere towards the end Iran into West Games as far as like being able to safely swipe at a Zombie until he died in a pretty good at that Gabrielle timing that's the ultimate in resource management where you're like I don't even need my body think of the wrist corey fail yeah yeah of course Kaylynn or Josh checked but you get sick slots and you have a built in that all times you know the difference between the original rate what would the rich get four slots of cheeses and he's right I really I I'm GonNa pull to seven because I just loved it was such a M- it was he was in California so like we played across the country French we we finished it like man that was a good game and there was this moment of silence and we're like I think the most fun I've had because I didn't have friends now just getting what changed nothing I haven't really had the experience such a departure from everything and it really felt like you were playing a horror film and a although there is kind of like this overarching thing that you'd against Western but then during the last point he actually is like comparable in terms of strength and that's why he's now in marvel versus Capcom store exactly stories like a whole topic like my favorite one is four and I loved the system that one bad has shea upgrading and and yet yet detention you get to a room to like what they did a five seven things can only take five I have to go through all this battle this puzzles here Mike Mike you're trying to get s class on every level sure do so we went in the beginning and played it very good and here's the reason the big reason five is my favorite is because I played a Shiva it was a departure but it was also kind of like a hey member member all that like the puzzles and the inventory management and the just their terrifying playing with friends with these gains Intel seven and so my friends I like to think so I could be wrong and then you get like a gem heard oh eight for the money though but we're like annuities boulder punching five five five yeah because because at that point because it's like Chris bummed is like Halloween and then also he can't fight it earlier with ten controls and I was just like Oh my God and then is that what it's called yeah tank controls when you can't move and share the same time while say you have to rotate your whole body is trying to survive all the things that this place is throwing at you and they give you enough stuff to survive but it wasn't until the very end when you start discovering like what actually went down in this these are attacking US asshole of helicopter pilots not here gets whatever communications and to get to and you're going through this place in your sounds like okay cool and comparing that to seven where like it's in a house and all those first person yeah but I mean the thing is Ceylan living I didn't say I like the wall no yeah I like that comparison because I I played the rim one remake I yeah and I was not excuse me you're now it was like you had these characters and you didn't know anything about them and so but you implant yourself as character so I need to survive this and house and that happens like a ground once you open up like the the water the sewage systems and you're searching like yawn the snake well I I like the puzzle aspect of it I like the having to very easy puzzles it's like Oh kind of the lab reveal in a weird way in a way like when you realize like some going on under the mansion or whatever are action but then you balance yeah five was I think I think if I was a perfect balance between like transitioning from the old and meeting the like having to remember where things are where they go like what you saw leaving the remembering it is probably just like my sort of noticing the mole on the scary stuff but I don't enjoy scary stuff just because I have a seating Lee Iraq visceral reaction it's it's I my imagination is so overactive like I saw commercial for it to and I couldn't sleep for a week and a half like it it's so enjoyed the most I so disconcerted Lake City motion signed joy. I don't think you don't even get that much in seven in that way you kinda do you got a flashback story and you play through it and then you see like what I would say like that whole second house don't know until has happened that there is kind of like the scientific part about it and just the shit that went down to get to where we are in seven but it was such a I don't live where's the button for me to just drive away from here in order pizza exactly like I want to give the character that option to leave but I can't because the point of the game rose daunting thing is to go through this like you know what you're going to need also going to this thing right and you're like health AMMO CUCKOO and is to deal with these horrifying things so I like it in that it forces you into that role but I also hate it because it forces you into that role I mean in terms of character even when you have the options that you can be like a bad person in a video game I'm like no I'm just GonNa go and pet the chicken because that's a nice thing to do scary video games are much worse because they're far more immersive than having the controlling your hands you're like well I have this weird like guilt of if anything bad happens to me yeah before pressing your direction and then rotate and then shoot yeah like you can't press down and walk down you have to rotate till your body faces down and then press forward yeah almond said I I loved about where you were walking around and then all of a sudden daddy walks by and you're like and you go to try to see and he's gone and you're like well he's going to punch the the shoulder I like remembering how each other it's always been top notch sugar hasn't been this is like I don't know anything about this character and all I know is that he's trying to get his wife and then in the first ones I I don't know anything about these characters all I know is trying to survive because he survived the night these dogs out of that room in a certain time nemesis comes out and you just get out but yeah so I would say puzzles me or probably what I about these games however the story kind of slowly unfolds yeah you're given Henson and things start to unfold it's interesting to know that how out of thinking resonable game that's like been bad at that like they're all all the puzzles have been interesting and fun to play through and especially even like seven doesn't stray away from apart yeah you the sixth one is one Western Dies Straight Upright v one he died so who's he's supposed to be dead I didn't I didn't finish six because they don't like it I can't remember like original game designer wanted to end it with two and then realize how much capcom wanted to milk it right and then just make games out of it but then now we're thirty one I like the story the story is good but a scary I know that's the point ferret still I do like games deep and like just how still through the numbers there's still a actual like like track they could follow like this how viruses in resin evil like that has to be kind of an intrinsic thing I want to know what creates zombies I wanNA know how what goes bump in the navy hooked by the franchise liens not at the he's in the six six yeah anyone yeah six definitely went along and then you start realizing oh there's been there's a lab at this mansion you know like what is going on and then you get the big twist of a Western reveals are always fun yeah macroscopic idea I mean I don't other than playing with us there would be zero reason I ever pickup raised naval game because that's kind of like a thing where it's like legend of Zelda right like from us the game doesn't have puzzles like all the off brands yeah right yeah familiar we do within that doesn't there are typically like you what's the original one from the flowers and five yeah yeah and it's all plant based in it and then they use those plants and then the scientists in in code we talked to people forget to run for some reason yeah and like in this I'm running back I'm just get far away cheeses bad guys again I'll say vault there is a singular narrative yeah numbers even though you don't follow the same carrier following the same storylines like systematic any and my story and also just appeal of like I'm going to be like I like like like living in a horror movie that I would do I would have done this I would have done that you know like how do you had sorry Bravo went to investigate murders dog related murders in the mountains Oh Bravo team sucks so we gotta go save Bravo choose who they wanted to play as reservoir was definitely ahead of its time in that sense not only for the character pick for the story pick which one you played a different Mike game seven though I will give it one critique is that with all the other game and never mind I was going to say like all the other Games you get a choice between us using a boy or girl that's why seven came back till I try to get the same like magic of one where it's like you are in this place I mean the thing about no actually because the point of one at the Alpha team went to go save Bravo Bravo went to save Alpha Alpha team is obviously say Bravo eaus zero you can switch between the girl and then the condos one of my favorite aspects way was so cool to be like Philly that's right you could be playing as one character and then the another game in but still it was it was my boys back for the even numbers in in five is it plaza virus as well or is it the same you want to be an adventurer to explore the world of high rule is fight the evil wizard sorcerer except for nighttime skeletons come out of the ground it's terrifying the cobbler but then Mr Moore strain specifically takes place in Spain almost like the game is like a virus somewhere there's references but you actually characters like when Leon appears in four six you're like Oh man I've been with Leon for how many other Games Wanaka starts making it and that he makes into the mountains and then in zero that's when they discover it and then what happens if you like the Thailand is so this because all these offshoots are like different strains of the virus except no one cares about him yeah that's a week from the progenitor charges Janitor Mirus like you have it's it's just like any other franchise you have a bit of investment you have a bit of an it's better I think in this than most like compared to like fantasy because he's key yeah but then she use a flashlight that could find items that you can't see if you're playing out there and they make it more terrifying because later on you switch between Barry and like sensing zombies so like it was interesting but which the Revolution Games the first one guy like not that great reviews and the if she dies you'll lose has a nice twist on the escort mission vibe 'cause like you're like this person can attack but the whole game is an escort you know how doom looks like is there typically genres to their like shooters specifically she does have a shooting moments where like you had to go through different rooms and then also weird shout for the culture everyone out there who loves hunk people love hung what's that honk is the guy that shoots the I can't remember with one I really like there's some kind of magic yes it's clear and she's she's doing the firefighters Schutte but then the entire time tyler and that was on the set like pokemon which is really nice like and I think that's a little like bleeding edge at that point whereas like you you you gave the player the choice the and Natalia was her name who's a little girl who cannot fight at all like she can maybe throw something but she can crawl through holes she could what the other is doing other is doing is affecting what how the other like I thought that was a really cool I was that was there that was they're upping the ante from resumes shine the light on stuff to in revelations in there like off shoots and they're kind of like the Kylie mini episodes between the Games and so you follow a Jill Valentine story anyway intertwined with the other game which one I'm because I'm blanking is the one that you could switch between the two characters on the fly zero six zero the guy who created the virus one Iraq the umbrella like corporations like main swat dude he's a skin you can play during reading before during the time attacks okay he starts out with Korea any other favorites or mentions I mean I can keep going on and on I mean I do have one more from five that I totally forgot about talking keep talking about five but apartment complexes zero walkway in the middle and there's a chainsaw and the only way to stop him by shooting him in the head so a head shot which he can sprint so sprinting at you with a chainsaw and trying to do a head shot before he gets you the bag heads yeah ah yeah and then more is your like secondary person so it's interesting because it kind of changed the way that you have different skills ye well they have different items right so is totally your worked you know like it's still I could write like you you go to this island and you find out where this came from and then through zero you're like Oh this is there's this boss that has a chainsaw in five and Elliott owner if you remember that one in this so that the way it works is there's too and then my boy Evan Shadow a more music he turned out to turn control we'll just you will thank me on so that we can get him into a narrow passage to then take them out a little bit easier like there's a lot of that going on with with that game which I really really in the second one they liked it a lot because it was just better polishing the better voice acting as well as it felt better in because you're using characters that are part of the main storyline and like I just love the fact that Berry title Typewriter Oh day and so like he he's just like a fan favorite from the franchise okay so interesting in his cool in outlast to revelations revelations why did I say outlast scary thing yeah like leading like I remember playing with my brother Sean Show Sean Show Sean and like I would have to like lead them off like around into the roof you were after Code Veronica they start developing resin before and the game designers were like let's make it around hero let's make it around monsters and demons and European gothic world and then access and does the thing I'll give you a algorithm on five is the set pieces were great like the invites like going through the level finding whereas I don't use a gun and so she so she only uses a crowbar so she she's only open doors God you're playing as the leaders chiller Claire I'm sorry I think it's clear boss but then you fight him as normal normal ads you invite him it was the scariest thing in the world being as they can sprint at you with a chain Sitcom five it's four it's four at they open up like four plus because because the Spanish I think there's a bus though the boss version of accenture they present them in for a kind of present them known five or four bags and chainsaws but in five yeah presentiment I saw your movements are super unpredictable and the only way to stop them is when they're at the top of their swing at you and you're gonNA shoot him and get ahead get out or yet Shimin had very la yeah it was terrible and your love the time you're you're when you're playing with a friend they're stuck on the roof shooting taking out of their Sambas when you're the guy was scary The wolverines like by Langer that are blind and then the mix sounds around them the the executioner I think so were there he just went off into another executioner dudes to write in in four there's a there's a characters called executioners yeah the executioner that has an accent the size of his body yeah it's great in Four for me like it's a big boot so going back into it there see like different types of enemy types especially with one-two-three was very much like the big boss is different right and with four five and six is more like knives you got the dudes at the chainsaw you got the Wolverine Dude you got later on you get a redeemers or then you actually get also iron maidens who are legit no of course they don't show you what it can do a fully looks like yeah until like bursts through a wall you were dead I'm like no shit I'm like God you but like I mean for me you know you guys are like there are these gray dudes with giant hunter from Kokomo on smile read is who are in the freezer level and they would like have larmer and grab you the different types of enemies you're gonNA come across much more varied because I can one all you got was like regular zombies red zombies that came back after kill him unless you burn them alive or Burnham at the very end you'll get the infinite launcher Chicago typewriter that have infinite bullets or you're just like icons Grimaud people down and so those are different things but I mean it's interesting eight five but I saw the movie I saw the Houston so that's what you would call it sponge Tom here's the thing about five yes ply it's backwards compatible now and I own a steel book collectors for is a key there is a of enemy type that is literally like I call them Wolverine because he would have these giant machete clause and like he was like you just ice yeah but like if you killed him he'd never came back and you can never get Joel you can kill them Oh shit don't and so like Siyam inside like an iron maiden like literally cage up an iron maiden and you would just see red eyes and then like the moment you fix or you saw puzzle the door was like no sedition version of it if you ever want to play through with me so I can play it on my way to ask Tom out ever yeah right and then getting a gun the head like a handle gingrich shut like bigger rounds or more automatic which is dope also the merchants traveling mercer yeah he's like fluid I but for me one four specific before like I just liked each as well like you know you can upgrade the guns I think in one you never could upgrade the hunters and that was it or the dogs in the in two you got liquors which was different but then like four five and six was like you got you got the guys who actually numbers and kill you and then it just keeps evolving no matter how many times you kill it and then later he evolves into wanting to be your friend and then he's just too clingy and you feel like you have to get away but I mean also receivable is like so good at like just putting dirt where fucking hurts like right in the wound when you get decapitated by this Wolverine Guy the screen goes hates you so it's it's interesting 'cause like one through three it was like you had the the what was the zombies no the the the main boss was like the Alpha is literally program to stock you and then in three it's a it's a more controlled version where it's supposed to just stock star eventually you'll hang out with him maybe in Monster Hunter I know I know this game so well and you can make food with him and feature cats Dan you just got better guns think it was five six right yeah I think five again because four was the one that you started working in more action based but like getting a gun to had a silencer with red dot sensor Wester though say our whisker is probably I don't have a lot of experience so it's hard for me to go like oh I know these characters very well to be like Oh yeah smugly ball's going fast my God my God he's shacked but also show but him just throughout unlike do address if you ever get the chance and you have some time which you never do play through one through six and you get the whole hour I mean a western because he just wears sunglasses indoors all also comes with like I'm the leader of Alpha Squad also it's Nice I'm also I'm wearing sunglasses literally just a tyrant one yeah that looked like him but wasn't at the I in one they introduced some as the main villain in to introduce Mr Acts as like he is no I don't I don't know why but like every time I ever watched games and Mr XS was doing the thing he just cracked me up I yeah they don't trust me and also you had like the cultist dudes who are like just in the robes and they will always have a fire Arrow galway you know what I'd be all about that sounds great I wanNA make a meal of my friends and hanging out with kids go to corey I want to get this guy's useful I'm not gonNA kill the thing choices for me but also like so there's there's two schools of thought rights like do you want to play the game to be challenged versus find that got killed like I just imagine him as like he's he's Guile from street fighter American army deal with a giant of law is starring gone is anyway Caylin Mr X. Because you wanna uh-huh in monster hunter apparently going going Turner Your Monster Hunter the cats got Pat Kassai kicks the towering creature for sure I don't know why I just really like mister x now and he may faulk sorry Oh the Oh yeah the main one and if all into Mr Mr Right and then later on became nemesis because it was more perfected versions of the tyrant who is our and also in the remake that booty though Moody also everyone let's get an remakes you know what I'm saying like Chris Chris Royals arms just like exploded he's like they're all day redfield Claire Shiva Shiva he's my my honorable mention she's she's so cool Christmas and I've I've right driven goodness boy he he just is very concerned for you know he's not yeah about it I don't know the I don't know what it is about him like Oh hey hey buddy he's embracing he's just misunderstood no he's a murderous he's a murderer is it's like the our west coast story except for which is like Leon and Krause and now we are we in love maybe shots yeah no I don't know I just like that he would just appear at random and then he just he's very goal oriented he's he's a he's a good board start the real game and then you just have your wits amongst you or to use and you increase your slots increase the weapons you find match Arnold Cuckoo I get it now do we want to go into like favorite characters of the series that we've Leon Kennedy Kennedy for Corey mines a sixth grade who could be John Claude van Damme you know yeah but then later on he becomes like sexy neo with like the law and black jagged severity and is teleported slept and Ryan got likes and some of them would have like when grab you they would hold you in the spikes protrude other remember this and that was the worse other going to hug me but delivered Leon more but for me yeah definitely on but then I think it has to be Jill I mean just because I played at a time you've built from the ground up game so imagine three 'cause threes technically out of the original three is like the lowest rated one because it again was almost gonna be then you have the polygons available you make mix but also that Joe Valentine though yeah into remake in that game doesn't aura like it's like a black hat I don't know why it's so he's just so amazing to me the polygons to do it characters I mean when you have the polly yeah it was so fucking is on bees have no cards he's trevor now in that house she was like this little girl who grew up like deformed and away from society and aggregated to this giant creepy monster movies but with these remarks are games there is a hundred sent big reason to do it and as long as it doesn't feel like it's a cut copy paste with the new engine on there like people are all for it because with one it's so expensive I feel like it's hard to have qualms unless you're looking at individual games or I mean maybe you could look across the IT Kinda hope they in a way back to her no hell more and remake remakes of older games and so I'm sure resident evil is in that but I mean you know we've talked about reboots don't say in a weird way they have so many games but allows you to kind of choose your own adventure right Lsu like I don't have to put that part of the cannon right and sometimes you can but but like that and then to like how they you know change everything up the like totally risk in the whole game you know it's not in control it's a brand new okay well I mean not enough like be it don't tie into it like Gimme Gimme you know it's like yeah but there's video games like lenny original three because that's what they were planning but then they just didn't want it to not be on the playstation and we didn't put a number on it that's always wanted they wanted on the second dreamcast but they're like only adversary which one receive a one yeah like yeah one remake it looks great I think the cool thing is that we're going to start seeing remakes I would love to see Code Veronica remained graphics I'm bout it looks decent as really well and I think that's kind of cool things backgrounds or big private like added so much to it they called it remake but then they changed the inventory slots they added Lisa Trevor who was a villain who is a character that they took out of the original one you can decide what path you go down with the amount of content that's out there yeah I would say especially draft having played through as much of seven as we have it's with that I don't know there's there's no rating is no critiquing or qualms I looked at the image everyone at home in veto played don't copy strikers point two seconds of an ad you're done a number game should be on the playstation yeah that that that that's that's that's family love you love Corey Right yes Sony Sony it says Tabio Rita's and your offer to trade franchising me like you're milked it too hard and but I don't know it's kind of coming full circle into being great in a together but you're cool you're cool I know because we haven't actually we haven't talked about the main part of like I don't know if is a leading reason of why they went first person but VR was a huge proponent for seven and they tested a lot of eat three for for years yes I think that was a big decision w awesome we're happening because of it now to keep doing it it's a general consensus of like we're going to start seeing a lot more you cannot kill until the very until until Berry helps you because Berry back stab you helps you with his mag mount with right and then we play resident evil the which is great and I think anything they've switched so much like I would like perfect scenario I was reading capcom like seven would inspire a new series the same pesky things find you and kill you and he wears a hat in the ring a hat does it really does and the first one in there isn't it one in like I got used to it and then kind of knowing what resident evil was meant or was started out to be I really really do love one I really like like the two three two three good Ronca four and five like those were like I would kind of them not fully together but like pretty close together Kinda devoid of a lot of danger because you can just shoot your way through things and the only real raising like you can't shoot your way through things is because he's suck at aiming and like I've done that he's another another three and then and then but I would still continue like eight would not be the same seven it would like revert back a little bit I want a game characters with Chris together that's it yeah we started the starting point in have also four of them in there isn't it actually six to like there percents a bit more of what you recognize and maybe like a halfway point of some kind I mean it'd be cool I can't I can't can you still with third person because I feel like when you're first person it's still it it's much scarier because I could see that you're kind of you are kind of the so kind of I guess blending are two ideologies it would be like you get that horror but then you had the action so you have all the will with to do it but then you can have where where in Av like offshoot game three people felt like it was like a money grab yeah I mean kind of was I mean yeah but because Veronica to like they're like people think that that should have been the like you're it's more of a puzzle game than anything and with four and I kinda say this I I played other Silent Hill Games like I could just whip everyone's ass well specifically society I don't know I can't remember it could be missing mixing this up I don't know if they were considering person or what they were considering originally but they landed on the third person over third person like what you're saying it kind of seemed like an I kid I could be wrong they weren't going for the horror survival aspect or more so going for the action like its actiony but you still feel like you're is still feels like a horror I am kind of in the middle like four like it was my

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E26 - Flying Humanoids

Military Paranormal Investigations Podcast

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E26 - Flying Humanoids

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What do you have in store for us this year? Well I I want to get into maybe doing some more going. Some more conferences. Okay I know we had talked about may be going down to Jefferson this year. we talk. Maybe about ozarks right trip. Not sure if that's going to happen or not I think the problem with with in it and it's not necessarily a problem but this year the the the South East Texas conference right. I've really been looking forward to. That's on Mother's Day Jack In. Yeah so You know we all have moms and we all have spouses that and the course Miss Alison over there. She's got her Kiddos here and it's a again. It falls falls on Mother's Day weekend. Yeah so yeah that was always a great conference to go to. We've been to the last two and it was. It was really good. Yeah I I thoroughly enjoyed it. I know I want to try to find some more quality paranormal conferences to get to as far as like haunting and that genre stuff so so there again I mean if you guys have any ideas or know of any good conferences maybe within sixty so hours of us here. It'd be Let us know if you if you are a host of any of those. Let us know and we'll make sure we get that information out there on our platforms as well. All righty. Well you know. Oh kind of Mike. What are we GONNA do tonight? I mean I know we were. You know trying to get this going. But what topic are we going to talk about tonight. Well I thought put something. This kind of came up came here recently. We put a couple of things on our facebook page but More of the flying humanoid and I'm not talking necessarily about the the big birds or any of that kind of stuff but the flying humanoid There's been kind of a flap. That's been occurring in the Chicago area. And it's Kinda made a lot off of local stuff. And then I have a little personal experience. I WanNa Kinda share and relate that back to to some of you guys. That really never really talked about it before because because we were talking before the show and I'll be straight up on us with you guys. This is one of those subjects in the paranormal. That I'm guilty of saying you know it's Kinda we're for me to say I believe in Ghost or I believe in UFO's but you know flying humanoids man. That's just a little beyond my comfort level but it was and I really just wasn't comfortable with it just because I kissed maybe known and I never really knew anybody that had an experience right. It wasn't one of those things that we could talk. Talk about but you know I think that I think it's an interesting subject and I think that there is a lot. There's a lot to. I don't know what that is But you know thinking back you know in in flying humanoids have kind of been I gotta work in okay. The Rob had on her our lifetime. Yeah we're we're we're finally the audio sorry about that everyone. The audience finally up and running there. There was one more setting head. Pick the So we'll we'll fix that but basically They probably have no clue what we were talking about out there. So if you just WanNa talk about the humanoids okay then Yeah Dan. The end probably work so when I think back about flying humanoids I think they've been around forever. I mean there's a lot of historical takes at talk about this sort of stuff but I think the one that really kind of kicked off in Popular Culture was the the Mothman of point pleasant and didn't really want to necessarily get into that too deep because it's been just covered so much and I think that it's one of those that unless you've been under a rock that's kind of one of those things that a lot of people really know about but the kind of give a little background on it if you are one of those people that don't know The Moth Meta point pleasant was kind of senator around the collapse of the Silver Bridge I was in point pleasant West Virginia and a word it is is. It's a bridge that's on US Thirty Five crosses over from Ohio into point. Pleasant is it. I can't even remember the name of that Ohio town and I know it doesn't ever get any of the the Glorieta that if you will but it's about five. PM I'm on December Fifteenth Nineteen Sixty Seven. There were thirty seven cars on the bridge. Thirty one of which went into the water when it collapsed and of that there were forty six people that died on the dodd. When they fell into the water there was nine? That was seriously injured and a lot of the controversy was the off so that was a flying humanoid that has spent was seen in the local area in the particularly in the days leading up to it but it actually went back about thirteen months or so ahead of that there was a lot of sightings that that we're We're seeing there and basically it was a big man size six foot which is kind of common when you look at Mo- sightings of again staying away from big birds in that sort of stuff which even they are about the similar similar size but about five and a half six six and a half foot tall somewhere in that range. It's bird like Kinda has leathery style skin but one of the common factors that was has has red glowing eyes and one of the things that I picked up on his most people that seen it or seen it take off our fly say made absolutely no sound it would take off when it flies or anything so but the first well documented story on the Mothman sightings things was in one thousand nine hundred sixty six there was some grave diggers that were working in. I think it's Clendenin West Virginia and they noticed a a big winged creature that flew into a tree and then it flew off and flew over their heads and then about three days later is started really picking episode this art giving it. The most popular sighting was in there is an abandoned world war two TNT plant and probably the most popular citing. This came out evidence. There were some teenagers that they would go out there. And what it is is it's big it's If you've ever seen an AMMO dump or anything like that there's just these big structures that are they were basically made the story gory explosives. And so that they blew up kind of contained that they're but they're kind of abandoned and and Teenagers would go out there and kind of like a lover's lying they do Louis. Teenagers do on Saturday nights. Or what have you and they see this couple of teenagers. were out there. And what they said was a massive annoyed about ten foot wingspan. It appeared in this guy and actually chased him down the road and they were they were hauling but trying to get away from it speeding eating trying to go in this thing was keeping up with them which I found interesting because later on when we get into where I'm going with this they would be there would be sightings and then and hours later sixty and seventy miles away? There would be another sighting of the same type of creature. So was that the same one or was it a different one but I guess where I'm going is. It was relatively fast. He could travel really really fast that here. Here's another one that same evening. A man that live ninety miles away saw another creature that that he had let his dog out and the dog off after the creature and of course it scared the heck out of him so he went back inside but his dog was never seen from again but again that was another story at chase them and then a couple of hours later ninety miles away a similar creature with was was seen the the stories were all over this strictly about the moth manner or wing creatures or whatever this is more about just the kind of the history you you enter you. Were kind of getting busy just kind of the history of where the humanoid sightings from I want to move into the Chicago wins and may mainly into that area but kind of just telling everybody a little about the the the Mo- Mothman of point pleasant but Do you guys have any. What what are you guys? Think about the moth. Well I'm I'm kind of like you. I mean being a paranormal investigator at try to have an open mind on a lot of things this one. I'm not really sure on on how I truly feel My thought is as could it. Could it have just been something that you know. The story spread over over the town. You know it's like Me Tell Rob Something Doping Game and then rob tells Mike and Mike Tells Allison and all of a sudden before we know it. It's people people see it as being real. Are you saying that it was more of a imagination. We're like a Taupe type creation. I don't know if it's imagination your nation. 'cause I mean maybe maybe they truly did see something. Maybe it was a big wing bird that they just happened to see and thought that it was a lot of the stories. Come back to to say that. They're sandhill cranes which you've ever seen them there. They can have pretty experienced. They are but I'll say this. There's things that Mitt MIS identification is common. It's it's very common. It's overly common in fact I think as we can get into the Chicago stuff stuff in a minute i. I don't think it's a sandhill crane in the reason is is there's just to me vacations. There's some pictures that have come out. I and I'm actually going to know what we're going to test some of that was later on. But I'm actually GONNA put some of this in our show notes for you guys to see You know you can search for forum but there are some pictures and some artists identifications of and I. I don't think it's a sandhill crane saint l.. Cranes are they're skinny. And these these things have been described has being like really skinny skin and bones. Type thing but You know I'm pretty avid outdoorsman and we have a lot of Sandhill uh-huh cranes that Maga migrate through here and I just don't think that as far as the bridge incident goes didn't didn't you say or did I read where they said the the scientists and all of the the mechanical people are saying that it was just a flaw in the bridge. The official you know the fissile explanation gene is a believe is that it was just a A. The bridge was at the end of his failure. I read somewhere that originally when it was designed it was made to handle so many cars ars and then as time went on the amount of traffic that went over this was just exponentially greater and that was the official story. You and I talked offline beforehand and that that you know could it have been a plane or something and and you know most of the reports say that this thing made no sound as it went in. It's common across. Most flying humanoid encounters are these glowing red eyes so yeah we could have been in nineteen sixty seven. We didn't really have drones. We didn't really right You know not commercially. Salihi available type stuff like that. There's no telling where things went military wise but I don't think that I don't know I think it would be something that would be a whole lot more the amount of sightings they it came out of it I think would be a little hard to justify something non biological but but didn't did you tell me when we talked off line that supposedly this moth man was seen a day or two prior. And it's kind of like an omen. That's what them kind of. The folklore tells that a lot of people believe that it was more of an omen or a a tale of things to come like maybe like a warning to people that the bridge was going to collapse. And that's kind of common across the Mothman sightings. Is that when you look at it. As a whole genre is that people associate the sightings of the moth man with a sign of bad things to come like it's almost warring you and I think that's where popular culture is taken it. You know when I try to look back. Historically on things don't really early on I don't really see the connection to that. Sometimes get with her going here. There's this impending Disaster Ryan but I don't see it as uh when I look at across the whole spectrum of things you know I don't really see it as that to me. I don't see that a viable option. Well but I mean I guess you know we're going to get into I think in our next podcast about Hawaiian folklore and that kind of stuff. If you look across vocal or type things things it seems always like there is something that if you do something or see something you know. appending thing is about to happen right. Negativity Right Human Nature. Yeah exactly I think so too so yeah that was pretty interesting. How that all correlates together I you know? I don't know could've been something. Maybe the government was working on in that area. I don't know could possibly be but how how many places other than in this location and you're gonNA talk about Chicago here. Has a moth man type creature been seen and do you know different states lot. You know when I look at like the humanoid signings and Mexico. They're a little different. They're more human. Yeah Eh like man looking Shea right But when you look and there's actually honor fact we were talking about it. Beforehand Gerhardt wrote a book called encounters with flying humanoids. He talks about a lot of them. When you look at the Jersey Devil which is another real famous walk probably my most favorite flying humanoid story I really like to investigate the pine barrens but that's a different story? Everyday they're everywhere. It's some of the what I found in and and I'll tell this when when I told my story here towards the end but they are very similar attributes to to it and then some things are really are really really different right. There's you know when you might go to in. Houston they are gargoyles. That's the common thing or they call it the Batman you you know the bat beast but they're all relatively similar as far as you know what what is the one that's My mind is drawing a blank. I think there's another one that's small town monsters based off of it's a story off of anyway very again very similar attributes it swoops down on dark art dusty Rhodes matter of fact just watched a a new release that Canon Lau Blackburn had done on their youtube channel where they're looking at a creature. Sure this is more along the lines of the the big bird type things but they have again. It's similar style. Yeah activity by the creature that makes sense sure so you know I. I don't know I think these are totally. I think that the humanoid encounters are totally different than the big bird encounters. Yeah I I. It's a different day but almost kind of want to relate the big bird stuff to like a time slip or something along those lines just because I don't no I. You know some of the places that the big birds have been seen in or it to me it would just be really or their fetched than bigfoot. Even as far as how could a creature be there and not be seen right right. It's a so anyway but we're out you know what kind of got my attention coming back to. This was right here at around the the New Year there was out a whole rash of sightings that came out and I believe it was on singular fourteen. A- think it's singular fourteen phantoms and monsters. And the the and I got a note. Here what is the name of the UFO. you've Oh clearinghouse those guys kinda off kind of put together and they have a map of what's happening in Chicago. May Cacao goes really really different. There are some that the investigators have said. This is more than likely definitely a hoax. And they can have very easily picked apart because his some of the things that happen there Kinda start off with it is. It's it's almost supernatural. If that makes makes any sense people say they get a feeling feeling of pure evil urge read. I'm only GonNa talk about a few stories because the information from what's been happening in the Chicago area is is the Lake Michigan as some people. Call the Lake Michigan Monster. Some people call it this. You Know Chicago Mothman but the amount of stories that are coming out of Chicago. phantoms and monsters launch strickler is done an excellent job of documenting all of these stories and you can go to their website and I I mean every story that has been reported to one of these organizations is on there and in all of these that way but in it it will. It'll give you a brief Synopsis Office. Of what what transpired with the person telling the story. In their words people submit the story to them. There's actually a couple of pictures on there what I found. Oh funny about one of the pictures and It's extremely eerie to a couple of big bird pictures that have been taken so it was a it was a little different but so did did These cases in Chicago. When did they actually I mean start ramping up? They from what I understand twenty Saturday my seventeen year the first count assiting. That's been saying it was I think in nineteen sixty nine nine and there's reports and they can go in. It'll skip a couple of years for the in the early and it'll kinda go up and then it really picks up in two thousand seventeen. I WANNA say there was like forty four sightings and twenty seventeen and then twenty nineteen had just about as many there was only like a handful of sightings in twenty the eighteen and was kind of odd if you go to the website There at one of those sites and I'll put a link in the show notes for there's an interactive map and you can click on each of the locations locations. But if you scroll when you skirl an amount of a map you kinda changes the points. Yeah it's almost like there is a pattern of flight so like there's a central area kind of on the coast of of of the lake. And then there's like these little couple of little shoots that Kinda come out off of it. It's it's Kinda creepy when you when you really come into it. I'm one of the first stories I'm going to tell and I'm just GonNa Kinda read this from this is that I took from phantoms and monsters again there was ninety nine reports. I think on there that have happened since nineteen sixty nine Like I said I think I'm forty four of them. were in two thousand seventeen. That kind of gives a bigger picture of things but this was submitted by police officer. He wished to remain anonymous Thomas and just for fear of an of ridicule sort of some Chicago from Chicago and other this was submitted his his cemented a little later. But the actual activity occurred on June twenty-ninth twenty seventeen. He says on the night of June twenty seven twenty nine twenty seventeen approximately eleven fifteen pm my partner our on routine patrol approaching the intersection of West Eighty first and south through and the Auburn Gresham neighborhood of Chicago. Illinois who were flagged down by a group of people who were pointing up to the top of apartment building that was on the Corner Apartment Department my partner and I look up to see a large creature that was approximately six six and a half feet tall was very thin. had been human. It would have been a macy's aided did the thing was standing on top of the building and what it looked like a pair of very large wings that extended out at least eight to ten feet from tip to tip no discernible features features. It just looked like a dark black shadow with wings my partner and I both thought it was somebody trying to jump from the building. And maybe wearing a costume of some kind. We we both shot are flashlights. To try to get a better look at it and what we were dealing with. This thing took off into the ear and flew away as the creature flew away headed in a southern direction option. Something sounding like a screen came from it and within the matter of about five seconds this creature was gone into the night. The people who initially flagged us down and said that many people people in the neighborhood had seen this thing for the previous two nights in. This just happened to be the only time that it was seen in a stationary place. That was one of the other things. Although with fly silently really a lot of people have said that it leads off this eerie evil scream sound I included another couple of stories in here but so on another another one is on Sunday August. Twenty seventh twenty seventeen. There was over retired police officer again. I kind of put the police also things in there again. Because sometimes they're trained observers is not saying that everything that they see couldn't be am at you know a work of an over executive a overactive imagination in the height of a you know an adrenaline redland rush or something like that. But they're trained observers. They're trained to try to get through some of that to report what they're seeing the stop walking and was about fifty feet or so away from what he described was a dart gargoyles that was looking directly at him. The dog a standard poodle was restless and began to bark the being stood up and made a growling like sound very guttural and menacing. The witness notice that the eyes were small but had a distinct reddish glow the being had the body shape similar to that of a human man but was gone and had a dark grain and was dark green color there were large wings folded outward from its back very similar to the typical image of Gargoyles but much. Let's larger the height with around six feet or so the head was somewhat conical and small compared to the rest of the body it had long arms with clawlike hands that sway back back and forth in front of the being after watching for about ten to fifteen seconds. Excuse me he also had to maintain control of the dog which was is barking and pulling on the lead the wing snap back from the back of the being and spread out to a full span. The wings were very distinct with dark membrane covering he estimated the span was about fifteen feet and extended high above the beam when the being swings drought to its side and it quickly propelled US often the air heading south in the direction of the metro station. It made no sound as it ascended. That's again just another similar story S. two kind of what's going on there and then I'm Gonna I'm GonNa tell one last one. It says Amancio seven foot tall person with wings while Standing Alsaud cargo deck at O'hare International Airport in Chicago that this one I included because this was one of the very There's actually there were three sidings. One on on over twenty six twenty nineteen November or December third twenty nineteen in December six twenty nineteen and. I want to kind of talk about these. Because you know if we're gathering evidence as as an investigator what is one of the things that we do you may call the person and talk to them and and then I call a person and talk right when we're there we're talking to them and we're trying to verify that information is the story the same is it is it changing is it. Somebody constructing in their mind as they're telling US jury but what I what I found interesting about these. Just kinda listen how the stories. How similar the description of the being? Yes that that happened here and another one. That was really interesting. As all three of these were for senator around the Chicago O'hare International Airport the the wording from the first one on November twenty six was that was at an airport at the airport. Picking up a load at Nippon and Cargo Airlines. I was already backed into a dock in withstanding away from the truck. Smoking a cigarette. They loaded my truck. I was looking towards the runways in the direction of the tunnel in and that is what I noticed something that looked like large burge standing just outside of the fence by the parking lot. It was hard not to miss. Because to streetlamps were nearby it like like a person with wings that were stretched out in flapping it was walking away from the fence towards the open field and began to flap its wings and disappeared on December third. A security person at O'hare international airport rights. I'm reluctantly relating riding report. That something. That's all we could go Tuesday this now keep him. On December third a week ago was about the same time as the siding on November. Twenty Six artem job is to routinely patrol the fence landis around O'hare International Airport. I sometimes have a partner with me. Mostly new hires who are going through initial training on the night of Tuesday December third. I was heading towards the airport. Cargo hubs there are multiple hubs scattered throughout the airport. This particular one was one located in the express center drive and it house. At least six cargo cargo companies. I was approaching the creek headed towards Montross. When I saw large person standing down in the creek bed I stopped thinking? Maybe it was a trucker who decided to wonder down there to relieve himself. Put on my lights and stopped my vehicle and this prepared to get out when this man turn towards me and I saw two very bright red is this thing appeared to be looking straight at me and then it turned away and walked away as it did it in for all the set of wings a begin to flap them same as the previous story. Ori It looked like a large goose when it wants to take off in the air it took off into the year and was gone into the darkness I was there left wondering what the hell just happened and what I had just seen. After I got home I spent the next few days looking for something looking for similar sightings and that is where I came across your website. I'm going to be blunt here. I don't believe in Hobgoblins in little green men. I'm sure that there must have been a rational explanation for this. I have a reputation for being grounded and level beheaded and I have worked too hard to get where I am to have all that trash by saying I saw Red Adan flying man yet. That is what I saw. I am torn between reporting this and keeping my mouth shut to protect my retirement. But D- report this. I want everything to be done to protect my identity. And the last story is is a man sees red wing humanoid one driving near Chicago's O'hare airport the witness who agreed to the use of his first name. Daniel said that he works in cargo cargo for an airline in the airport again near the cargo section. Which is where the other two were and had left work early? That night to go meet France. I was the last one to get out of work. He said normally work until eleven. But we got a little done a little earlier than expected around ten fifteen or ten twenty is one I left. I was driving driving down West Higgins and I was headed to the bar to meet with one of my friends from work. That's left is a large Patrick Grass where I saw it. It was dark. And there's a building with a certain amount of blight Near the signing area I was able to take a glimpse at it while I was driving. Daniel continued I saw headlights can be toward me as well. I'm always looking at that sad because there's deer there. I'm always eager to look there to see them. I can tell the difference between a deer and what I saw. What I saw was not a deer? According according to Daniel the creature he saw mashed exactly what was described by the witness on November. Twenty second twenty-six who said he had seen a seven foot tall person with wings near the loading dock for Nippon. Cargo Airlines accepts. Dang thing he saw had read is he said he was able to estimate the creatures out by comparing it to a nearby fence also also present was the feeling of evil described by previous witnesses. Daniel said he was ready to diminish it dismisses signing until he found an article online describing the other man's appearance appearance experience. That was that was really weird because honestly I thought I was going crazy at first I said to myself. No that can't be. I don't think think I saw that after that once I saw the article the day after my signing I thought okay I must not be going crazy because nip and it's not far from where my signing took place. That was the craziest part kind of freaked out. I saw that something wasn't right. I saw it in the same way that the other gentlemen saw it. If Really Evil Lorde had those red is how could any creature have those thought. I was going crazy man. I thought I was going crazy until read the article. I must not be the only one who seeing this stuff breath. Maybe it was just the fear I felt but honestly it didn't feel good at all. It's one of the craziest things I've ever seen in my life says on here that lawn strickler who who spoke to the witness found his testimony to be credible matching. What was told to the guy? There Ed Senior fourteen so if you go in and I have read dozens and dozens of these I will say I haven't read every one of them. It's all similar. I mean it's all in and I don't know so you know you were talking earlier. Almost kind of like the slender man thing you know wants to story gets passed in the story gets Preston. You had the but some of this. This was before the Internet. You know what you're so. Is it a story that I don't think that I don't is it. A story story that people have expanded upon and have been just continually exaggerating so that they you know what I mean it it just well I I put to like it's it's like bigfoot sightings you know the creatures are all you know six to nine feet tall you know. They all have the same kind of makeup. You know is it worth. Is it truly something that everyone seeing or or is it just. They hear the way that the creature looks. And that's how they see it as well right And here in just a second. I'm GonNa get to AH story and I will and I mean I will say this. I'm not going to discredit anyone in say what they saw. They didn't see cassettes. Not The way I am But I would just you know the question I would have is if creatures that big in Chicago where in the world would that creature you're live in the edge of the airport eating the deer. I mean you know what I mean. That's this Kassy's dear It's right on the lake. Think I mean you got to think of how big Chicago is. I'm sure there's buildings rooftops. I guess back to your whole Internet thing you were talking. What about you know in nineteen sixty seven? We didn't have any of that right. You know So people telling that kind of story I I would think a little differently in. Here's the thing. Some of this came out of the news. If you go on the Internet you can Google News report right. It's like that but this up until a few years ago. This really wasn't even like right. Now you can go to phantoms and monsters or singular fourteen and are you fo- clearinghouse and you can see these stories in one spot right but few years back. None of that was. You couldn't do that even since the Internet. It really wasn't being tracked until somebody started taking note of these news reports and things started giving a place for people to make the well and if you think about it that's right at the fifty year mark of when that sixty seven thing happened. So is there some tie into that in you know. I mean you hear a lot of a lot of times when something happens. There's always copycat type stuff happens so if maybe the first sighting was two years after the sober collapse the man so you know I mean even like in the twenty seventeen to briny nineteen stuff. Now you know could it be someone actually saw something and then now there's a copycat person who's made sued or or what I like you know if you go to the singular fourteen side. They have these little coated in a fire zone. And it'll tell you which one they think is possible hoax or whatever is off of stories and different types of factors in their investigation that they've done the I don't know you know I'm going to say in twenty seventeen other than reading books. I mean because I've read books like you know Kim's Breyer and I've read stories but it wasn't anything that I was ever interested in. Yeah I didn't really follow it. I didn't really. I didn't know much about it because again to me that idea was far fetched. And that's that's bad on me because again. I shouldn't discount right based off of the experiences. France's up had I shouldn't discount with anybody has right but it just wasn't one of those things that seem plausible to me. So UNDIS- didn't track down that path. If that makes since I I don't when I after the thing that I want to say in a minute I I started reading about some of the stuff and I'll I'll be honest some of these stories that I read almost like a panic attack during this stuff. 'cause I'm like man this is this is too uh we're too into can't be a coincidence. I mean the sightings are almost identical and they in it again. Could it be something like you know. Slender man we talked about that. But you know it was a a construct of someone's imagination with the Internet in some people. Some researchers say that the slender man really wasn't real into it was until it hit the Internet and it's almost like Topa. Yeah that Kinda was created from the thought form that was created from the millions of people on the Internet. The Brian Together when you get a city like Chicago and in like this you know I just read to police officers reports of an a security guard that talked about out that these were going on. I can't these guys we know. How the paranoia? Yes I mean you lose your job if you get too weird you keep testify. Ask Your belt so for them to come forward and say I saw this and I don't know it's just it's too much of A. We'll let me throw this out to you guys going back to Point Pleasant West Virginia. There is accounts in in sixty six by remember correctly. I think you'd said there was a couple of counts. was there anything before that had anyone ever made comments of any and why. I'm throwing that out. There is as while of a sudden this creature come to that area is it hasn't been all of a sudden I mean it's just now that the sightings writings have happened at that spot right right but but what I'm getting at though is prior to sixty six. was there any reports. Did anyone say that. They had seen earliest healing creature before. That get yes but I I will tell you. I don't have the specifics I should have had that in a in a prepared deal. Oh but the mall the sightings of these creatures have been going back since biblical times. Okay so yeah and that's what that's one of the things I thought I'd in sixty six sixty seven seven. It was in point pleasant West Virginia then sixty man. It shows up over here in Lake Michigan but also you know in certain in years and and I wish I had this like tracked out but I wonder if like in the like say twenty eighteen when it was less active in Chicago was more active in Houston location in. So I see where you're going with that but yes I think there has been sightings and that was one of the things that that I thought of. You know you have like phantoms and Mosser's tracking these at at in Chicago but is there when you need almost a website like the far you're right that's tracking them nation or worldwide. So then you can kinda maybe find a pattern in these may be. It is some sort of right creature whether it be evil or thought form or yeah some sort of corrupted or something maybe maybe there is something that right right with you know but that's what it would take. What about tying it to have you heard read anything on it being alien related okay so the one website UFO clearinghouse a Lotta people report their sightings to move on to to the UFO sites and things like that so yes there is a tie in okay to it to it being along those lines yeah? I'm I'll be honest. I didn't get I was I read more about the sightings in in those sorts of things I really didn't go down the path as far as are the researchers that think it's an actual alien being gene right. Most people consider this will be some sort of crypt did. Yeah but there is that evil overtone that kind of keeps coming out now. What I'M GONNA say in the next little portion does have the evil overtone to it okay and it may even have some sort of alien overtone to as well to maybe living so but what about you what do you think about the Chicago stuff? I think that's great that that's being asked you. Listen thanks for joining US tonight right. Well I'm kind of listing things up. I'm letting y'all go ahead and talk want but one of our commenters was saying that kind of sound like we were like offset like we had had a centralized Mike in here and so I've been chatting with him back and forth. I couldn't understand what was going on but I found out that we were using the MIC. To go live. Was Mike from my computer so now I'm trying to see how it actually okay. I'll give you a hall pass dancing. Okay Allison what is your what is your take on. The Mothman. Tonight is very educational for me. I believe it or not. I've never heard of it and I kinda I kinda thought that. I know you've been a whole lot more into the haunting stuff. Yes and I know that the cryptic could stuff slow out then. I figured this one would be a little out there. But what do you think about it. You sitting here listening to it. The have an opinion ooh do. I have an opinion. You think it's something that's plausible. I think anything is yes. I think there's a lot a lot of things out there that we don't know about. Do I think that we're the only ones on humans on the earth. No I would like to see one and then I say oh absolutely well. Do you have any comments before I move into this now. I'm tag that in Allison not to cut you off the anything else on it one. No no I'll I'll probably feed in offer a yours at the end as I know your story so okay so I'm going to tell a story I've never told this to anyone other then Jeff and my wife because I think it was just too far out there a matter of fact I I almost I think I told you Jeff. I almost emailed Kim Gerhard dish to report my sighting. Because that's the only person that I had ever really read that. That had anything to do with anything flying although again most of his more that he does I think any kind of everything. Is this one book. The counter flying humanoids. He talks about them all but it was that you know I had read more of his big bird stuff. You know what I mean. Those those types of signings and things interviews that he had done Dan but twenty seven was a really really busy year for me. You know I left in March. I didn't get back till January of twenty eighteen. I it was Kinda gone. All over the place. And for those the other Dunham catastrophe insurance adjuster and then I kind of travel where the storms west twenty seventeen was east Tennessee. Kinda got pummeled pretty badly. And then of course we had the hurricane hurricane harvey that hit and I worked down in Corpus for a while and then I went up to Houston and worked in that area area for a while and I moved up to Houston towards the end of the year in this was and I forgot that note that it was around around my birthday. It was around the end of October and I had just moved to Houston and I was staying. I stay in an RV and hand. I was staying in an RV Park in kind of on the south out of Houston in Radolph of Houston in league. And where I was at there. There was a very very busy. I mean if you've ever been to Houston it's people related to being worse than drive in La. It's it's a massive just place but whereas it was Kinda quiet it's it's kind of on the east side of League city kind of almost to the water From from where. Yeah I was at and one night I had gone out I I usually stay till about eleven or twelve And reading my stuff and I had gone outside outside and was just kinda chilling out for a minute before I went to bed. And I'm sitting out there. I think I was actually texting. Jeff you're were and as I'm sitting there talking I mean there's nothing I had. I had had no recent. It's not like I was reading books on this at the time or had been listening to stories on this at the time it had just been a very a uneventful day a matter of fact I was talking to Jeff about coming out. We were going to go do the Ghost Road Red Lights and I remember correctly that's correct and and that's that was in the area so that's what I was kind of into at the time was the ghost road stuff and I was. There was a haunted location over in Port Arthur forget lane was out there and I saw him move the crack and I'm like whoa anyway but as I'm sitting out there I just happened to look up and I remember it was kind of an overcast night. But if you've ever Ben especially in a big city I mean the clouds kind of high but it was overcast but again that was very populated and I could see as I said Eddie Lights. I'm RV Park headlights. And I kinda see in running right beside the part that I was in were high lines and they and they crossed lost the highway almost directly behind my trailer as I looked up what I saw was this Bat Lake Doc object and I watched it and it went and it was underneath the high lines and it went in between so like on my side was Was a tower with islands in the other side was a tower kind of at an angle. And what's this thing and it went underneath the high wires inbetween those polls so at the time wasn't really thinking about it but I could tell that this was big. It wasn't like it. Was You know a bird word that I was missing. Identifying matter of fact I I kind of looked up and I thought I thought it was almost a flock of birds and then as I watched it and it moved in the light from the intersection where they had the streetlights was it was low enough it was just right above the streetlights but the way they were it was kinda bouncing off the bottom of this in what I what I could tell was. It was like this grey Vampire Bat staue wing almost kind of scalloped on the mm-hmm trailing edge. Now I didn't really see a body but what I saw was the wing the wings kind of folded out in like a Delta shape if you will and and it was kind of scalloped on the back edge and I could what I could make out. was that the back edge of it was flapping in the wind as it flew now. That's really all I really remember of it and I remember just thinking what the hell was that and so as when I kind of message Jeff and I'm like I think I'm I think I'm over stressed. I think that's actually what I did. And then I thought I was even sending things and I went and got out my and I was measuring M. F. which and I will say it was high. I I was getting about eight to ten Mil Gos- consistently in my area of the park which is can induce hallucinations. Cannon do these things so so kinda. I remember kind of tossed and turned on at thinking. What the heck was I mean? Really what was that and then I thought the next day I got up and I was thinking I was talking to you. Throughout the day I went and did some claims when I was coming back. And that's when it dawned on me I said well I think I'm gonNA email kin and see what's going on man as an investigator I I just don't think I want. Don't that on somebody to 'cause I don't WANNA lose credibility sure I mean I. That's what I and that's why ultimately never sent it to him. Yeah but now he's like I said he was the only person on new that investigated and tracked Iraq. Some of that stuff that I had heard of that at the time I had heard of lawn. strickler do in the crypto stuff that I really just never got down that path. So do I guess it was a couple of nights later. I just got the wild hair and I went on and I started googling you know Houston Big Birds I think is what I started with. Because that's what in my brain was. We're leading IT T- and Lo and behold I stumbled on a gold mine of stuff that kind of may be changed my perspective on this whole thing so there is sightings in Houston of what they call the Houston the bat beast the Batman The there's they call Mothman and it kind of goes down towards Corpus and backup to Houston area but one of the things that I found really interesting and I'm not going to go down that path because we could do an entire episode on. Jack Parsons but the this is where it gets a little weird. But so if you don't know Jack Parsons says he was the founder of JPL and which is the Jet Propulsion Laboratory. Tori is the person that developed the rock solid state fuel that we ended up ultimately sending our rockets to the moon in with Very instrumental in helping NASA get to that point again. It's there's a whole lot about Jack. Parsons but the thing. That's funny is the story of the Houston. GARGOYLES call it. The NASA Garg Oil kind of relates back to Jack. Parsons so there's a story out there. There's some myth out there that actually the truth of the story is Jack. Parsons was is really involved. In the occult he in like Alastair Crawley were like good friends they talked back and forth. He was actually also friends. With l Ron Hubbard. And matter of fact they had a they were into like sex magic in dark magic and all that kind of stuff and Alastair Crawley ran off with Jack's girlfriend Viansa in any way it was that some really weird stuff. It's Kinda weird that the founder. JP was into some of that stuff. He ended up ultimately blowing himself up in his basement developing something but the story is so it was well known that Jack Parsons ouster. Crawley l Ron Hubbard. They would what do these incantations to try to open open portals to try to influence things by astral projection in that sort of stuff. Yeah so the story is is that they created portals. That opened up that allowed. These beasts to come through and so one of the stories that I want to The WanNa talk about and I got this one from is actually. The story was on an anomaly. In which I'm not super he'd to that site but I thought this story was pretty good. It's actually a bunch of different size. Schools were good but this is This story involves NASA archivist Frank Straw and what Shaw and what happened on a windy night. In nineteen eighty six scholl had an uneventful day of work shift entity headed for his car. Shaw said that is near his vehicle. He happened to glanced up at one of the massive buildings at the JC which is at the NASA complex. What he saw was unlike anything he had ever seen in something he wished he never had? It was perched on top of the building and instantly filled Shawwa terror. He described a bizarre creature. A large jet black nightmare with huge bat like wings reminding him of Gargoyles he frozen places of winged beast stared straight at him. Shaw felt that the Gargoyles like creatures actually enjoyed the panic that he was experiencing the argo then spread. It's wings and with a crackling sound flew off into the Houston night. Shaw eventually managed to calm himself south enough that he could begin his drive home. His family noticed that he was later than usual but thought he probably had to work late which was not uncommon when he finally arrived home. It was obvious is that something was terribly wrong. He was an honest and serious man but the store he tell was not just believable his family felt that he must have misinterpreted what he had seen. What all kit? What all could agree on was that he should not tell anyone about exciting at the Houston? Gargoyles Frank Shaw kept his word and said nothing about what what he had seen for a while but eventually he decided that he had confided his friend and supervisor and told him what he had seen the response that shall received was a total surprise. I shall supervisor informed him that he was not the first one to report the strange cargo creature in fact a foul had already been opened dealing with the bizarre creature following assigning of the guardrail and the death of two German shepherds at the JC shawls relieved to know he and not imagine the whole event but was soon visited by investigators and interrogated about what he had seen shall told them everything he could remember about the gargling counter investigator to be satisfied before leaving however ever the investigators gave a stern warning to keep quiet about the incident shell kept his word and never again talked about the night he saw the Houston Gargoyles. Now where I'm going with. This story is there's multiple citing supposedly reported at NASA complex. There of this Houston Gargoyles my RV Park. That I was in was about two miles from the Houston Houston Space Center interesting. It was the so. There was a big drainage ditch that Kinda ran through and that drainage ditch in the way it comes through Kinda came off the end of the space center and it runs through and then where my rv park was was right at a bridge where railroad tracks plant that went up towards the space centre and then out that path the tracks went straight over to the coast and that little inlet in that drainage geria- went out into the water the path you know you know didn't make that bigger. Make their full screen for us. Go ahead go ahead. What your store knows the path half that this thing was taking was from the space center to the water that I that I saw? Then see a ABC. I've got to two places to take this that I see a humanoid creature or did I see some sort of black ops project that they're Developing Ping it the space program that some sort of you're talking about the new space program coming out right now the space force no no. I'm talking just in general that I see a Garg oil from the Houston Space Center. Or did he may be some sort of technology that they were using they they were flying out to the coast to test this thing or something so you what you saw us. You said it was winglike. Is that all you could see. I mean did you see any we. It was like A. I didn't see red glowing eyes. I didn't see what kind of wing was. It was like square wing Iran wing. What I remember was a bat wing? Matter of fact there is an image that I'm GonNa put in the notes of a bat like creature and it almost kind of look you know how some of like the vampire vampire movies will have this skeletal. Look in wing in his kind of leathery and it's kind of flappy and scalloped on the back edge between the ribs and home. That's what I can't remember seeing. It was kind of a grayish darker color but again it was dark and what I'm seeing the light reflecting off of it. It was close enough enough that I could say sitting back now and I went out multiple nights. I've got a couple of cameras and range finders and and I don't have those that information eh. This point here but I went out and was looking up at those deals and what I can estimate is that the wing was Komo you go ahead and restore him. I'm trying to watch the fight over here. The wings were probably ten to fifteen feet wide. Wingspan is probably Blake. Because of where it flew in the again it was under the wires on top of the towers the struts that hold the power lines the Helen's is up but it was so above the ground under the the lines it flew in between two so as I'm watching it go and I'm watching across the street. There's a car and I can kinda see in. I can tell you that it was like this wide. It was probably ten to fifteen feet wide in the air as it went across. Okay so how high up near would you say that would be those towers. If I'm if I remember I've got notes on where those towers I wanNA say. Were about a hundred fifty or two hundred feet tall okay so it was up. It was two thirds of the way down in the first hour was literally directly behind my I got. I got some pictures whereas directly behind my trailer within thirty thirty yards of my trailer the other tower on the other side of the highway so four lanes wide now. When you saw it flying was flapping or gliding it was like gliding wings out but the trailing edge? Because I didn't hear any noise but I could. It was close enough that I could kind of see the trailing trailing edge of it flapping in the wind. It was going. It reminded me of like a kite. Redness was about to ask that was going but it's eleven thirty at night ten thirty eleven. Was it floating straight up. We're going to go straight in. It flew underneath the high lines across the highway straight out and never saw it. Go up or down with the arms dislike in a V formation yet so picture this if you will if I stand and I'm looking in a direction my trailer was right in front front of me and standing at the front of my trailer so off to my left is where kind of the left is my trailer behind. That was the high lines. I'm I'm looking to my right at an angle away from me. And there's there's lights so I can't see much and then all of a sudden out of this light comes this thing and that's what I thought it was like a flock of geese or something and then as it kind of got away from a lot and I could see what it was and I mean up above me. It wasn't one hundred feet feet in the air. Zach I mean it was hundred maybe hundred fifty Fini are want to see the towers were two hundred foot tall because they went over and there was a high bridge. ORIG- right there and I want to say they were that they were the big stretch. That like a big tea and they got to peaks on the Tom and so it was like maybe one hundred fifty feet in the air in his it went over and it can add the got out of the light that was blinding me. Now the lights reflecting off the bottom of this I could see it and is it's flying away is starting to go out of my view in the trailer so I walk in front of the trailer and over behind the trailer. There's no other trailers because women and RV Park. There's no other ones behind me and I'll follow as I'm booking up. I'm watching it wall to go away from me. It flew over and skunk so the next way out of one out of my side that the light quit reflecting off of it and it went away because it got over so the next day when you got up. Did you watch the news or or I did. I went and I looked at actually at the time I was looking on Mathon. Okay because that was was what I write a new so I was looking to see if there was any other sightings there were some similar sightings of an object in the sky in and I've got the date in matter of fact I'll I'll see if I can get some of that and put it. I mean in that area where you're at you in the Houston proper area. Actually I think the next one was so you have the space center and you have leaked city in the space center. I forget there's like another little town. It's Houston you're driving each exit. Its own little subdivision neighborhood town right so there's a little town that's where another citing the. He was assigning if something large in the air flying no lights. Whatever like that so that that was there? But that's that's all I really. That's all I really saw again. It's kind of late and it was overcast. I think it was about to rain. Okay so you being the skeptic. Damn I'm just GONNA ask questions you already said that you high levels of e. e. m. f. was there Tower right right and that's what I attributed it to What time what time of the night was this? So would you be probably worked a full day in her pretty tired. Yeah yeah so it's it's I wanna say it was eleven like eleven twenty seven twenty two something like that is when I actually remembered to go and I would think I was. I think you're takes in you or I was texting Jamie and I remember going back and looking at a text message and I think that was like the time that I came up with I remember I remember you. Tell me about it. 'cause when if you know anything about Mike when he writes a text to you it's a book normally not necessarily. Yeah Yeah it is at anyways so so you could have been tired. You probably were tired on you work. You work a lot of our know where you're going with this from investigators stay right right in you know. I'm just trying to think you know. Maybe it was was something from the government side of it. You know maybe some kind of test aircraft or or something where they don't really have like. Yeah but they. What's it like a landing airstrip know exactly you know what I mean? It's so but they do have research and they have ray and you wouldn't need help you ETA draw right exactly if you had some way of landing at you would need to zero noyce because I remember being able to hear because they would be this time of night on on. This little Rhode was massive subdivisions. All around me but he would get really caught it at night and they'd just be a car to go by every now and then but I remember being able to hear the wind and I don't win it was flap and I couldn't really hear that but I can. I remember. It was close enough that I can see the trailing edge of it flapping the wind. But I don't want I don't remember. The wing. Shape was shaped very similar to a picture that again. I'll share but I don't remember seeing like a Body but at that distance I mean could I have necessarily seated at that distance and lighting. You know what it was daytime and I saw it silhouetted craft seen it. Maybe but I will straight up full disclosure what I attributed to was fatigue in. Ems any medication. Not like nothing. Now I mean I take blood pressure mess and you know however I just found it. Had that what I see that gray flapping leathery leathery style scan is what I'm thinking is what I was. What sticks out and then I go read and guess what there's other sightings six now in the same area there's the Houston Gargo multiple sightings less than two miles from me? Had Let let me ask you this. Had you done any kind of reading or research on anything like this. Prior to this matter of fact this book that I got cans. I got after when you and I went yeah. I bought that because of that. Assigning sure sure I had I had seen the stuff and I knew that like I said I knew Kim had done that because I mostly I would i. I'd gotten in real big into super-cobra here awhile back and that's what I remember. Kim was real big in debunking a lot of that and Ryan looking into that but I knew that he was into that. That's why I was going to Boston. Austin the hammer email and see what he thinks. Sure and I and I still thought maybe I should because maybe he has other stories that on those websites or something you know what I mean. Maybe if you go to a conference and you see him bring the story up to them. I don't know it's weird. It changed my perspective as far as discounting it. Although I'll straight up up say I'm not saying that I saw Mothman. Yeah but right with my experience and then I read this stuff in Chicago. I'll go that's happening Bam Bam Bam Bam. I'm like. It gives me chills. I mean it literally. I'm like man gum is this. I don't know there's something to it and so since that day. You never seen anything like that before. Since you mean or saint again and again I would never took interest matter of fact most of my books are up here in this bookshelf. And if you look look I don't have very many flying humanoids in every one of them were the ones after it. I think it's the the wings that are getting me. Yeah 'cause you're saying that you didn't hear anything so there's a picture and I'll show no proportion and then the wings weren't flapping because anything. He was like lighting like a bird. You have gone will in a straight line gliding they would have to be coming down angle a little bit if they're going straight across the gotTa have some sort of Shen and there was no wind wind like I said I think he was going to rain. There was some light. We Wanna say it was kind of misty. See how this. That's that's the only thing that gets the only thing that I've seen and as far as winged in when you were talking about the letter the only thing that came to my mind was jeepers sleepers creepers. That's how I described it to jeff is I think I saw the jeepers creepers thing. That's exactly what came to my remind that that that that's exactly that is a matter of fact. I'm glad you said that because that is that's pretty sure. That's how it looked like the jeepers jeepers creepers monster even the wings because the wings. That's all I remember seeing wings or the but you didn't see like legs or anything find it in no I didn't Besieged like look. Look here this is what how about when you see see man flying in not really but yeah so this is the only picture that comes close to it. See how this wing is Kinda scalloped. This is one of the Chicago one's does he bring you so does it. Look if I can bring it up for something like that. Ah Let's remember busy. It's you spread these out. Maybe like this back edge would be. I'm trying to think and that what's let's see here is the Real Famous Mothman and this is kind of Chicago when see how this back edge. What I remember was is more of a a scalloped edge but this was flapping? There's body that you can see so I'm looking up and all I can Z.. Is the would. Light is reflecting off the bottom but I do remember it looking like that trailing edge was flapping as it was going over but much bigger than bat. 'cause that kind of looks like a bat to me much bigger almost looks like someone in a suit that was swing see wing suit. Yeah Which I would love to do? I wish this different. There's drawers that because I know people wanna see what we're talking kind of Algiers. This drawing this is what I can relate it this is what the wings kind of what I they were scalloped like that not like that bottom left one. But more of a what what I would relate to jeepers creepers example to me is what I see in my mind or like a vampire bat. I'm trying to figure out which one because if I can find one that you're looking at I can put it up go to I think it's on. The singular. Fourteen website is the one that I pulled. I've got up in the notes but I don't have them labelled here there. You go see that one at circle maybe is that it. That's it's like a moth no this type in flying humanoid set him off man and images but anyway you know it just changed my perspective. I'm not saying that. That's that is definitely saw flying humanoid but the experience that I had was unusual it was unique. It was out of my comfort level with the data that I had and well well I think for me what found in what I found interesting on the story one is. I know I know you personally. So I know you're not going to fabricate some. I'm kind of story like this. But more importantly you were able to follow it up with other people experiencing some kind of wing creature around around the same time right now. I see a bunch of 'em like there's a real flying humanoid in India flying into wanted over Chile. Those Rosen makes in South America and over there. Those look different. Look at the one. That's a pretty sure it's on the singular fourteen website. Yeah yeah those are more of the human shape deals Look up Chicago. Mothman at founded intrigued enough that again I tried to follow it up with a check. The M. F. I checked the environmental factors. I mean I knew that I was under the high lines. the minute RV park where there's fifty amp service run every eight feet wide. You know there were two hundred and something slots in this park. But but apparently there's there's a lot of sidings there too and that's that's the part that gets me because again I had never that stuff never crossed my mind and yeah net. That's why I asked you. You know because we I don't ever remember of even talking about. That's what I remember. Probably just tired man. Yeah that's this was my first thought in in and I just it was something I mean I saw something whether or not my mind misconstrued. It you know for me those you out there. That may not know me I I am susceptible to high levels of the M. F.. I get nauseated to my stomach. I get really tired Do have hallucinations So could it be a combination of that. You're tired tired. We'll see and typically my in my experience and I'm not saying that's the only factor I would have you know. Sometimes people are allergic once when they found out that they are doing something but typically in my experience my sensitivity results in like a sinus pressure headache. That's what I that's what I feel. I can tell when there's like if a storms roll on the feel that energy coming. I kind of get that pressure by Ford if we go into a place it's got high. Ems that's kind of what I feel Again I was. I did have a U. Myth. I was fatigued and tired. I mean matter of fact I had I went to Tennessee. I moved in Tennessee came back I went to Corpus. I came back I went to Houston and I had been Houston for days. Well it's a lot of stress in body and I'm pulling the trailer just now arriving on site so I have all these contacts to make. I've got all these things that have got to get here and learning a new area. I absolutely absolutely despise Houston traffic. I mean that's that that stresses me and went anything when I work in the Houston area and anyway it was a there was a lot going on. I I totally get that. The problem is I still have. I understand those factors but I still saw something and I can see that. It's the other accounts that was reported around the same Tom. Tom Yeah. That's that's the little check that extra little box and and not only that but so some of the sites even if they were in a different time they described the exact the Dr Gray right gargoyles looking wings And it's two miles and I and I did not I had never i. I love the space centers. I have been everywhere anywhere but Florida. I mean I've been Tusk. Oh yeah to test Huntsville. I've been to you know here in Texas. I've been to the ones the the smaller wasn't around. That have the stuff I absolutely love going to the space centers and. I've always been intrigued since I was a kid with never ever ever heard that story and and then I've had this experience. I looked up and guess what they're having this experience. Yeah but I also know that also know how our government works in. Yeah I mean is it a cover up for what they're really flying relate well testing in you. I just quit. I just have one more question him for you and I'm done. You may have said this in your story when you first saw it. How long was was it in the air visually that you could see from when you first saw it till it was gone? It was pretty slow moving. Do I have sound yeah you sound. Something's messing awesome upon. My headphones is pretty slow moving. I'm going to say if I'm like eight seconds. Seven eight seconds may be up to ten and because it went from in my division may be like say forty degrees and Kinda came into the light where I could tell that. That's what it was was and then it crossed over and is it Kinda crossed down only other side. It may be say hundred fifty degrees so then it probably would have had had to a flapped its wings pretty close before you saw it because of a creature of that size I mean I understand I understand flight and all of that how it works six the dake glide for a little while will again I thought it was a flock of geese or something when I first saw it so it was in the light where I couldn't see it it was behind the street fixture yeah I could see that there's something there so maybe I don't know maybe could have been a couple birds kind of separated aided enough to their wings made it look like that I honestly that was again that was my initial impression but as it flew more directly it was never directly over overhead of me it flew from my right to my left and I want to say if you held. I don't know how to describe it. It was in front of me for my right to my left but it was it maybe fifty yards in front of me. Yeah And there was a couple of times when the streetlights from the intersection. I like is it that one up there in the corner. No no doesn't look like that at all I. I don't think so no to me. That looks like I think that's the one that may have been determined as to be a hoax. I mean the wing Kinda shape on this one but if you turned it around that looks like does that make sense like if you chopped off the legs and turn the picture around fly on the other way. That's what it looked like that shape. I can bet the one. That's in the corner up there at this one. If you took the Viz one appear bright your potent AETNA right. Yeah if you took the legs off of it and then that was like it's flying with the wings. Cutting forward bright wings were they were Hannah Point on the front in scalloped on the back edge kind of almost a we'll say tattered because I couldn't see that much detail but they were almost like a i. I don't know so it it could have been something like a Pelican. I mean you were close to the water rate. Oh Man and I grew up skull. Yeah I mean it was going to say Pelicans can get really big. I grown up Florida. I don't yeah okay. I felt as fine I am just trying to I. I don't I don't think if if I miss it it it was some sort of tech. Yeah I don't think it was any bird. UK It was bigger than that. Yeah Okay I do have have a good estimate on size yet. More like the back edge of that but not as pointy on the front thank. You turned around backwards on that one are up. Does that make sense. Let's let the wings pointed in their own of the Anyway you know. I don't miss identified as an animal. Yeah Yeah it was anything that I missed. The defied it was tech. It was but why would it's not like a glider or something that some person then flying underneath the highlight Scher and you. It was a drone. We all know if you're unless I mean you could be using illegal software stuff like that but if it's any commercially available drawn you're not going into those highlights because when you get close to it it's ask me is GonNa shut you off and I know that it flew between the post under the wires. It was anyway again. I don't know what it was but I just when I the main thing I wanted had to portray in the in the episode was that that I saw that and then I looked up days later I looked up and found matter of fact. I think I texted did you back. I heard it on a podcast. Yeah you did. And I'm like what so then I went looking in. That's where I heard. I was actually listening to a podcast about Jack. Parsons and that's where I heard it and then I went and I'm like son of a gun and that's where I looked it up and found that but anyway I I think that's probably about it. Is You buddy. have any other comments. No I don't i. I think it was very interesting to to Learn a little bit about all of this and in here your experience. 'cause like I said I I was was like you and and I still really don't know what to think about the whole Mothman creature and all of that Is it just something that you know. One person starts in the story goes and goes and goes and goes and all of a sudden it becomes reality. You Know I. I don't know oh I've never experienced it. I don't know like you said I don't know anybody that's had a personal experience with a wing creature other than yourself So I I really don't know but I would say that if you guys have any personal stories out there it would be really interesting to hear those stories. Yeah I would absolutely love you if you've had a if you've had a mothman wing creature flying I would absolutely love to hear your story. I I I still debated waited for days when leading up to this. Even tell that story again Kazai. Just ask a problem with the credibility part of it I know that sounds odd and it may be a little conceded of me but I thought you know what what the heck if I can't tell my story and in my position that nobody else is going to tell their stories exactly I I can't discount. I mean we can go to a place and somebody tells me they saw a figure out of the closet and I believe that so I can't discount it right You know I would like to. It makes me WANNA do some more. There's there was actually a lot of things that happened in light rural midwest places. I would let me go to a road trip just yeah. I don't know what I'd do if I were driving on a road and something swoop down. My car had a duck do that to me one time and it freaked me. Anyway I I enjoyed reading about it. I think that the Chicago stuff is something to keep an eye on some going on there whether it be I. I almost think it's like Topa related. I mean the more the stories. They're starting to get out there now. The more people are seeing the more right. It's kind of hard for me to think that some sort of when I say scripted just an unidentified animal right in in a populated area like Chicago proper because this is like downtown buildings and skyscrapers. It's almost like a guard. Royal is something somebody like nothing in particular that somebody like. Jack Parsons maybe open. Something created something. I mean we. We believe in the Supernatural Roland. Why can't we believe that somebody open something they shouldn't have yeah I don't know I just think that there's something going on at Chicago. There is a real phenomenon nominee going on Chicago. If you don't know about you need to check out phantoms monsters or singer. Fourteen and alcohol. Delhi's show notes in there. But they are. It's it's definitely currently a phenomenon that needs to be kept in. I'll okay already. I'm looking forward to next weekend. Yeah I'm excited. I'm excited cold. Yeah but I I think the weather's fifty four and thirty two but it'll be fun to get out there and and STOMP around the woods a little bit and that's good campaign. Have a good time. You can sleep at. We're GONNA try and you know doing live out there. It's pretty weak signal okay. We can try. We can Dr Iyad Dad Check on social media. We might try to post them stuff up. Maybe he'll pictures but if well now thinking maybe we could use a hot spot out there but yeah but I did learn that each one of us probably going to have some sort of Gopro hones- nice you got your. I've got mine. Yeah you have one. I'm GonNa Order One so Jeremy Used Angels Okay Jeremy's taken night-vision real stuff. We're going to have night vision out there. It's not you're not the what about thermal we we only thermal. That's what he's got real. Oh it's not the night visions thermal imaging and I mean. Of course. I've got my my stuff will. You can't afford that grainstuff. A little exciting. We've got hopefully another track or something. Maybe we can trackways get some good cast. You got better equipment when I went before only had my little sample kit. Go back then we have plenty of the cast mix. Yeah that's what I mean. We have plenty of money that stuff now. We bought it for last time didn't you. We got like what ten pounds at least up an entire backpack yet did and for those that are listening our next next show. Were looking at doing the Hawaiian folklore wind folklore. But I think I want to change it into island folklore. Okay all right. I have have a student. That's from Guam and I. I just asked him as I can't do you. Guys have any legends or folklore. And he's like we were. They'll just pledging out there. And he's like yes and he started telling me about some is when I'm writing them down on my aunt that that's good really hot. I'm just writing them down. That's the area that the whole Polynesia area is where the Hawaiian settlers were said to come from. So that's what I want to see if WANNA see if there's any correlation between them or or if they did the island hopping cuddling telephone game. Yeah I guess that's my new thing when it comes to. Yeah I hear the Game Mail. Yeah yeah if we don't. We WanNa push that Hawaiian one live on all our platform. Do so we're in. We're trying to get some remotes. We're trying to go full on that one but we may do a little excerpt from what we do next weekend. Okay we've got some stories if we get that out I but the Hawaii one is coming up You got a lot with with that one when you're talking about what I don't want to do is kind of like what you were talking about. Kind of like Kevin episode of it to where. We're almost always filming. Yeah and we can just throw together stuff when I don't know ever since I started messing with that ADOBE PREMIERE PRO I. I'm like Oh aw man that's a great program things. I can do that little thing. I put up for that for the prior video. Yeah having the stuff in the background I looked in. That was easy. It was easy and then next next time. We're going to have an intro video intro guaranteed. Because I'm halfway done with that one. Do you know we were talking about that Private that we did that was for the group in Australia. Yeah do we. We know they were involved in any of that. Fire the wildfire squad over. There didn't ask him. I talked to him. We may want to. We may want to look into that Eh. They got a bunch of rain. The other day and I think they put out like I saw like forty percent of the remaining fires this last. That's that's good. Yeah thank goodness I. That's I was telling the Gaza that's my dream vacations. Yeah I'll meet you. I know that's where over landing. Yeah I would love to do a continent tour shoot. I think I just loved Australia. They just take a visit out there. You know I'm looking at our video is looking pretty good. It really is but we did not plan to go blue shirt black shirt. Oh I'm leaving the video I'm like okay. There's two blue okay I Again I want to ask you guys. I'm really wanting to put together some of our listeners stories this year especially getting up again. We're a long ways away but of course all of us that look forward to Halloween. I WANNA start getting some of that if you have any stories. That doesn't have to be Halloween related to any paranormal stories. Ghost stories flying corrupted stories. You Afo stories. Please share those with the send. Those is to us I want to try to collect some of that If you don't WanNa talk on the air you can You can tell us. The story will relate. We'll keep you anonymous I just like to get some of your guys intake on some things well and in two if you guys have any photos or any videos maybe you'd want us to take a look at it and and see league. Get our take on it. Dan Send those dust as well. They we now have the capability to put it up here so everyone can sing. 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Episode 110: Im the Best Friend You Have In This World

Defenders Of The Night

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Episode 110: Im the Best Friend You Have In This World

"Anders of the night and official representatives of the clammy cast network, Daniel and I would like to make it clear that we and all that we represent as podcasters in humans are firmly unwaveringly anti-racist as a couple of white people drenched in societal privilege. We will never understand what it means to be black in America. Instead we will listen. We will learn, and we will grow to become better allies in the fight for equality there. There is a lot of darkness in the world, and we hope are goofy show about a ninety s cartoon can bring you a little laughter during the fight, but we are by no means a distraction. Never forget that black men and boys are again being lynched. People of color are still being gunned down by police and Briana. Taylor's killers are still free to put it bluntly. All black lives matter fuck raises and fuck the police. Move. Third! Yards. On the night most trusted source for top to bottom coverage of everyone's favourite mid-nineties. Animated Program Gargoyles. I'm your host Liz Circle Hello I. Am your other host Daniel s Williams Liz. Yeah, we're trying something new today. It's a little weird. It's real weird can already tell I don't like I. Don't like change no me either in general. This is an experiment long distance podcasting. Yeah, we'RE NOT GONNA. Do it anymore. This is the one and only time Liz today we are talking. Gargoyles season one episode ten the edge. Do you big? Youtube Fan narrowly. Right, no, it is not the drummer. He's someone. The edge is a member of YouTube. That's why I brought them up. I. Know I know that much guitarist basis. Just. Stop guessing. It was the guitar. Liz Yeah gargoyles season. One episode ten. The edge aired January, thirteenth, nineteen, Ninety Five, and it was directed by hotshots Saburo Mojo in cuts. Terada, we know these names. We love these guys. These guys are doing a great job. It was written by a Michael Reaves SOM. If. It was awesome I. Don't know if I like Michael Reaves the more and more I, see of his episodes. You know you know I really should go back and check that out and see which ones I'm liking or not liking and see who the writers were. Yep, he's got some that. They have like good parts, but overall I wonder if maybe they're not the strongest episodes I think. He's been doing the majority. Majority of this first season Powell goals. We have a big favourite. Ask You, elise before we jump into talking about episode ten. Would you go to your preferred podcast share and gave us a five star rating. Perhaps a written review because that's how other wonderful pal goes conjoined the gargoyles family plan if you will, and that's the weird word to use, but that's the one the gargoyles used join our clan. It's totally inclusive. Anyone can join that one of those weird clams. Just going to move on I'm going to move into the episode Liz we are beginning at xanthos towers the Dough Gel specifically, because of course building is seven hundred feet tall. It's got at least one though. I mean. How else do you fill those rooms? Bakeries new get an Italian bakery on one floor French bakery. I'm sure there are other kinds, but I don't care of bakeries. Get one that's dedicated just to takes all right. Okay, so it was interesting, seeing a good old boy. Oh, and actually being kind of bad as I. Don't know I mean deluxe is off his game. That's the real thing here. Yeah, there's definitely something wrong with him. He seems Real Pissy, so we've already jumped ahead, so Owen and deluxe their sparring and a K rat tae setting. Setting I don't know if it's judo or karate or another martial art again I'm not very smart. I don't know a lot of things, but as you said, Owen takes down to luck. Yeah, it's a little messy and Alexis all like sore loser about it. They start off. You know. He gets I think he gets like a good hitter to an Owen flings. macron's the room. And then deluxe is like. That's enough I've had enough I quit. It just caused the match after like ten seconds. What a winner! His to to getting his own way, he's been out of practice. As we said Deluxe, he tried to set up a Dojo in the prison, but he couldn't get enough. Signatures on the petition, so win nowhere. I don't know what the point of this opening scene is other than to see. Deluxe get has ascended to him. Partially to show that there is something wrong. He's off his game. The thing about that is we don't get to see him on his game. So this is all just posturing. As far as the viewer is concerned, you know that's it was like a Ma game like really. What does it look like when you're on man? We're just supposed to believe that he's the best at everything I. Don't I don't believe that? That list not at all. I mean the Gargoyles keep beating him and he did get caught and sent to prison so obviously he's not the best. You know what he's got mercenaries. He's got robots, but he's yet to get into a fight himself until dot dot, we in the scene, but basically him taking out his frustrations on whoever is next meeting with is he's like who's coming up next to Noah like. Helman's or whatever it doesn't matter a to, and he's like. Tell him to meet me at one like what if it's twelve fifty because that's what I'm imagining, you know. You know when you're a multi-billionaire. You get to do it your way. Yeah, he's a Dick. He isn't a deck and we move onto the clock tower Liz so is the clock tower the same building as the police station I got real confused of where we were. That's this huge reveal here is that I think yes one hundred percent she and put her boyfriend and all his Bros. in her place of business so dangerous because she is dating dragon. which most people don't believe this? I was just very confused. What all is connected to what in this building? Yeah, but anyway so dream boat is bringing a fucking TV to work, and it's obvious it's four Hotson, and all the others which adorable I think. Oh! She doesn't want to miss her stories. To live days of our lives in Guiding Light General Hospital as the world turns, lead you know a lot of soap operas. I know a thing or two about two. And then we meet a new guy, boy is fucking guy. I have problems front to back with this guy. I like his broad shoulders. I dislike that they made this little fucking pissed boy redhead. Was Little fucking conspiracy theorist Weiner guy out to be a red head. That's not fair. At least that's so far as we see He's not an angry redhead. He'll shows true. Others got damage. We all do okay, so this guy. She drops the remote control for the TV which restore like all right. Why Bring Your TV to work and she's like? Oh, just storing it for later. Let's understate how insanely risk. This is to have her gargoyles. Powell's in her place of work. Which again is a police station a bold strategy? Pays off oral. Maybe she thinks that she's the only good detectives. That doesn't matter. No one will ever notice. It turns out. That detective remote is secretly. A huge asshole thinks nothing of her coworkers. But that leads us to her being in a meeting with her captain cats pantsuit yeah. We find out that dream boats getting a partner which immediately gets very angry about it turns out the smoke. redhead from outside is the new recruit team. Flying Dragon Man and I'm sure they're all GONNA get along. Just great and nothing's going to go. Bad I totally called that before they revealed who obviously, it was obvious it was going to be him, but going to. It's going to be that guy was. Well. She needs someone to rain her end because she's just running off. You know at all hours of the day and night. Just doing whatever the hell she wants. She needs someone to kind of keep tabs. Does she work like I feel like she battled making. She needs someone like audit her work. Is this her first time back since the shooting? I'm sure that she's been working from home I'm sure she's been going through case files, and whatever in this, if this is her first day back in the office that means that it's totally okay for her to be carrying seventy five pound TV UP I. Don't know twenty flights of stairs and you know. She doesn't have a massive wound that she's recovering from. Everything's okay. I didn't even think about that, but yeah I mean those TV's are heavy. Yeah, do you remember when TV's were this fucking big? A twenty four inch screen weighed seventy pounds and like Oh, it's huge! That's the size TV I had in college. It was one of those big fatty is, and it was always a giant pain moving in and out of the DORMS, and into my apartment, and seriously where you in college two thousand ten, yeah? A friend, one it at his senior in, and he had a flat screen TV that he was bringing to school with him, and so he gave me the big one. The gave you the big one indeed, Liz, you are. Dream takes this TV upstairs. And she runs into Broadway and Lexington and I'm just going on with my notes Liz you keep your giggles on that side and she's wondering where everyone like. Oh, there's Broadway. Oh, there's Brooklyn. He's over there. Where is Goliath? Let ceiling person. She actually wants to see right course she does like when you stop over at your boyfriend or girlfriend house and You know they've got their loser roommates and you're like okay. Yeah, you guys are here. Where is the person I came to? Oh, no, he's not what he's not even. Even here. He's at the library. Okay I was so confused by this library. Okay me, too. Is this like one big public building? That's like Oh. Police Station here library there. I'm so confused. I'm going to say no, because this is not some podunk town where it's got one stop lie and all of the municipal facilities are in one building. This New York City. So. Is this a library next door? Did he sneak off like Shimmy on the side of the building and like push through a window? I don't know Liz if they would just say two lines of dialogue, and we could figure out the geography of this space though I have to say. Every time they show him just being all Bruti reading a book. I like it like a illiterate man. Bring the stool with him. Because when he was reading in the Castle Library he was also sitting on a stool, a brooding stool. It's his preferred perching spot. Does he loves a good perch? He's sitting mobility reading Dostoevsky and he's going on to her about how deluxe drove the Gargoyles into hiding? How now they're outcasts, strangers in a strange land and Liz I hate to break it to him, but he's always been that way. Ask Dimona right like even when they were living out in the open in Scotland, they were fucking hated. Yeah, they were always outcasts. They weren't allowed in the Great Hall. Hall and the Castle nobody wanted to hang out with the fucking gargoyles. Like why is he pouting like this I? Don't know he's like Super Mopey. Goliath. This whole entire episode like I. Don't know what the fuck is going on between him and deluxe, both of them just being mopey boys, but I'm over it I know they need to swoop. Their bangs forward. Pierce their lip on the side starting. Starting Him Oban because for fuck, sake their little crybabies. They are I knew so many boys like that in high school I'm sorry. Teenage Boys I didn't mean to offend, but really I was just accurately describing you, Cheryl anyway, so from there we go back to the tower, which of course the TV's up, and they're watching and got that old school antenna. Workin just right got a position. Well, which is. Is Surprising. That's a very difficult thing to do well Lexington. He knows machines know that, so he probably took care of it. Yeah, and you were saying I'm sorry I interrupted because I like to talk ten, so they're watching TV right, and we see deluxe on the news, and Goliath goes fucking bonkers again. I assumed that it would be because he got caught with his dick out in public, but. Apparently he was donating the I of Odin to the Moma now. That's weird because it's the museum of modern, art in this seems to be some sort of ancient artifact, so this doesn't make any fucking sense. He didn't even register. That lets a really funny ridiculous, but he's doing a nice thing what they should have shown us. WAS The museum president? I don't know I don't know how museums were being like. It's really nice that you wanna give us this, but you do realize that this is the Museum of modern. Art and I've carbon dated the vote in two four. THOUSAND BC you fucking. Are, just like in the interview. You know this is like a worth millions of dollars, Blah Blah. Blah and I like how Della has pretty much. Just like will travis I have all the money in the world. So why do I need? This might as well make me look good to the public. Yeah, and then there's this. Back and forth continues between him and the reporter and I wanNA play you a little bit in this clip. Because Golf, the rails real quick here. Okay, a few more donations like this and New York might even forget your prison record. I made a mistake Mr Marshall. I paid my debt to society. All I'm trying to do now is give something to benefit others. Would you rather kept the I? Your Limo is ready Mr Senators. Perfect time going. Liz Is this a puff piece on the donation or Gotcha piece on deluxe and his recent prison stint. It's so weird that the reporter guy. He's like Oh so nice something something. Prison Gotcha, motherfucker. Into just like you know what I don't need this shit. The fuck out of here. Yeah, and he pieces out. I assume in the middle of a live broadcast I couldn't tell what was actually being recorded, and that was like a conversation happening on camera, or after the camera had already turned down I like to think that Owen saw it happening in in the middle of the broadcast. He just walks into frame and he was like. Hey, you're limos here. We should go. Rude unprofessional, but again deluxe is a billionaire and he can do it if he wants to. On brand for him on the other thing I thought it was interesting, was of course. His car is there. It's his own personal limo. Where the fuck would it go like it's always ready to go? It's not like he was waiting for a bus. That's why I think the walked into the middle of the shot like during. This is a poor excuse but A. To G. I was thinking. Maybe the LIMO had to like keep circling around until they were done something because there was no parking available. You're right. It is New York City. Okay for all is forgiven deluxe. You're doing a great job and you are a gift to New York City. So we kind of pull back out of the interview and Goliath is going ape shit? He is angry and he takes off for the museum. Yeah, this is a thought I. Just had Liz. This goes back to the idea of never knowing exactly what time it is right in the Gargoyles Universe, because it's obviously after dark. But what time of year is it right now? Because if this is a live broadcast, this is not the nine o'clock or ten o'clock news. My point being the glide immediately takes off for the museum like he wants to go catch deluxe right then and there the I was thinking. He was heading to the castle to have a chat with deluxe, but that's true. It's confusing because what we see is someone that looks like Goliath break into the museum right I guess they're trying to make us the viewer think it might possibly be goliath breaking in I think I'm getting confused because what you and I know. Is that the person that stole? The eye of Odin is deluxe, but he's also at the castle. Win Goliath shows up, so there's like these weird skips in time that they don't. Don't acknowledge, was that the Red Goliath or was it one of the other guys? That's the thing is. I assumed it was actually deluxe because of robot programming and like. Could he tell these robots to go and break in quietly to the museum? Steal the I owed, and that seemed like a human act or a sentient, being act that makes a lot of sense also. Does goliath not realize that sometimes things are prerecorded so? I'm sees where we assume we see him head to the museum. I see that's the thing I don't understand about this episode. In in the writing is like what are we to assume versus what is actually happening Ra Goliath. The story wants to make us think that he took off for the museum, but why would he do that? Does he think Alexis there? If so, what is he planning on doing? Is he just mad at the like what? No, I! Agree because I mean as soon as they show us the break in I'm like okay. Obviously goliath wouldn't do that. He is a trustworthy gargoyles right like he wanted to go smash smash for no reason and what would be the reason. The story is trying to feed us. He wants the money to buy back the castle. Yes sure. Yeah, that's the thing is like. Why are they trying to make us think that life is breaking into like steely I voted. Why is the I vote and really important to Gargoyles? Don't fucking know this is the first time we've heard of exact, and if it turns out, it's really important. Yeah, okay. I'm sorry. I'm hung up on this. Okay all right. Let's move on to whatever happens next Liz. We cut away briefly to Dream Boat riding with her new partner detective dingus and he starts talking about the illuminating. I don't know much about the elimination by. I know it's something that's not real. People talk about it all the time. Right like I feel like that's one of the go to conspiracy theory kind of things I. Don't know I don't travel in those circles trying to stick to reality and or Gargoyles. Liz, they're talking about the luminosity. And suddenly they get a radio call and there's been a break in the Moma. That's the stuff we're talking about fifteen minutes ago, right? This is a brief cut away. What's taken us like ten minutes? We go back to the museum. They get back to the museum. And they see a gargoyles. That's no Gargoyles, Sarrebourg oil, and the goal steals the eye of Odin and assaults Lagarde. He's mean would shirt. He runs through window. Right is the detectives pull up and he takes off flying cars and detective. dingus takes a shot at him during about immediately gasping my boyfriend. Don't tell you that there are very obviously rockets on the back of this thing. He's shooting at a jet engine. Is He doing? What does he think is going to happen if he were to hit this? Like a showering of fire and debris on the city streets Liz. They like that show. Fair enough. He's like you know what I know. What the city needs right now and hasn't had in days, fire and debris. All over the humans. Nothing happens the bullet as off the Robo goal and hits a passing Septuagenarian. It's no big deal. Loop See. But he's all like. Why did you try to stop me and she's like yeah, because he didn't know what you're you're shooting at. It could have been bad which fair. That is actually accurate. I, don't even know what shooting it. I was just firing my gun into the sky like a train police professional. Dude I. Don't like him. I don't like detective Dingus. One bit was yes. I think it's time we take a break. Cool. I needed to just wash my hands of this fool of detective. Is this his first day on the job? He's fresh out of school fresh out of detective school. We'll be right back. I'm Daniel we've got a great new show. 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They're going to be some detectives and street cops that are going to have to settle for Broadway. Tin Yeah I. Think Brooklyn's pretty up there though I mean I would definitely put him at number two in Lexington I just can't get a little baby. That's the weirdest childlike I agree brought them fine with. You know he's a big bear. Oh, yeah, and he's protective. It's fuck anyway. Dream Boat is in a meeting with Captain Pantsuit, discussing the museum in about whatever it was, that flew away when detective Ding comes in and I. Don't know if you notice this kind of. Of stuff on TV shows, but I hate when someone comes into a room because you've got to see this on TV, and then they turn on whatever TV's in the room, and it happens to come on right at the most important bit that they're trying to show. Whoever what a fun coincidence! How is he watching the most important bit in the other room and then comes in to show it to them. You know what I'm getting. All worked up over dumb fucking TV. Liz What is actually happening on TV Goliath guy well, we know it's not Goliath, but it seems to be. And he's stealing the vote in, and they got it on camera footage, so everyone now knows that gargoyles exist because I don't know that the Robo. Goyal so now everyone's all guest. What is that creature? Dream boats just awkwardly standing there like I. Don't know anything. that's. What. They will live above your head right now. They're not in the attic that tells us the viewer deluxe donated the I vote in solely for the purpose of stealing it back later that day. I. Mean That's funny, but was that the only plan well, because then it forces the existence of the Gargoyles to be known right, so he's doing it as a power play to force them into the public eye, but if that's his plant like I'm still confused over like. Why does he want the public to know about Gargoyles just so that they can be hated and feared some more later in the episode he. He does say he wants to force them out of the city and live in his country home that he apparently has i. don't get what he wants. Actually in the way that this writer tends to his episodes, he doesn't ever explain it. Yeah, it's like he presents some good ideas, but he doesn't follow up on them and I. Guess We're supposed to assume that they will be touched upon some other point. Well Liz from there. We go upstairs to the clock tower dream. Boat, just she's like. Oh, no I e have business upstairs. I gotta go and she you know runs up ten flights of stairs and she goes until the Gar. Gang. What's going on and here in my notes is where we get to the curiousness I have of the why of it all and everyone's standing around. Like what does he do do that? Glide is like he's got a devious plan. I don't know what it is, but God dammit. It's bad. I don't think that the looks knows what the overall plan is I. Think he's just playing only one or two steps ahead. I agree I think he's kind of flying by the seat of his pants. Just to see what the fuck he can make happen I mean the writer of this episode Michael Reaves, definitely doing the story justice by not really planning ahead or even thinking too much about it is at least as far as we can. Tell viewers right. This is when Goliath takes off. Off Piston goes to the castle so earlier when we were talking, that makes even lessons now where the fuck did Glasgow then maybe he just needed to fly it off, and cooldown needed to go find an empty warehouse in anger dance. Yes, all right. I had a question, did dream boat not know about the metal gargoyles? Last time they existed when they had to fight them off well, they did destroy all of those Gargoyles, the metal gargoyles I mean he's Tony Stark of the gargoyles. Of course he's GonNa make new Shit I agree with you one hundred percent, but everyone seems to be so confused as to how there could possibly be more. Yeah from our perspective is like. He made them guys. He made them the first time course he's GonNa make bigger better stronger. That's how ultra came to be guys. Anyway Glides like making a plan like all right boys. Let's go. Let's head out Bronx Hudson. You stay here and guard the new home so funny. Obviously, Bronx can't fly. That makes sense. He doesn't get to go along. Why just Hudson always have to stay? Because as ner doesn't want to do anymore? The episode is like I'm only working for ten pages of script boys, so you better get your money's worth. So yes, Brooklyn in Lexington in Broadway. They accompany with to castle. Hudson in Bronx have to stay behind to protect their new home as if the police station needed protecting. Of psychopaths with guns. It's fine. But okay, and I think that's it for Hudson. And the rest of the episode Ed Asner done. He's done with episode ten. Early me. You're right, and as they are heading for the door, so to speak Dream Boat tries to stop them, and she's got some really convincing arguments that they do not listen to it on one player club. To deal with summit owes hold on Goliath I wouldn't take the chance of being seen if I were you. You're not writing very high in the public opinion polls right now, knowing Lisa. No more hiding. Santos will answer to me for this because every single time. One of them is like. Oh, it'll be fine. We'll just the humans can see us shit. Go sideways like do they not learn? Like. Why does during about have to be? The only level headed wanted to like guys. This is a horrible idea. Because Liz she's the woman and that's the woman's responsibility. Is To parent a bunch of grown men. She presents it like a like. It's an image problem. Mikey did not see what I saw on. TV like you. You need a good pr person. Come on, we gotTA clean this up. We gotTA. We gotta get a spin on it right and they're like. NO WE WANNA fight a guy. Get Out of our way. Lady and they take off. They. Take off and they're flying to castle waiver, and she goes down to ground level from the essentially the roof in like two seconds flat. She gets down to her car looks up and they are flying overhead. Is there a five hundred foot firemen Poland's building. Like what the fuck? How did she get down there so fast? Another thing the time lapse. That doesn't make any sense. No, that is absurd. She has wings of her own and she flow. So. She gets in her car right and then detective Dingus runs up behind her wanting to be her partner. You know she wants to go, and he wants to come along because somehow he just knows that whatever things she's going to do. She's going to need a partner. Right was what if she wants to go home to poop because she doesn't like to poop it. Does. She need a partner. Whatever mom's sick and she's rushing over to help, Liz what does. She ran out of tampons and she's going on down to the pharmacy. Back the fuck off Matt. He's all up in her business. You just needs to go with your thing, but like are they on the clock? I can't figure when she's working when she's not ever. poop emergency I. Don't think it matters what she going to say like Oh. Yeah, come on along. It's GonNa, be Smelly, right? Oh my God all right I'm sorry. She changes her mind and let him come, and it's a mistake that guy needs to get hit by a bus. So from there, we get to Castle White Verna and I guess deluxe just knew they were coming. He looks like he's up there flying kind. Maybe he missed his pal oils and he's like we used to hang out here. I met them. Maybe they called before they left. Maybe like we're coming over to have words, he's like Oh! He angry Goliath. That's my favorite Goliath. So they show up right and the best part of Deluxe is bottomless pool of smug, asshole one liners. Can I play you this little bit here yes, please. It hosts. You have gone too far I. You steal our home and now you steal our very identities. Got It all wrong. I'm the best friend you have in this world. It's good and I like that he's always got something to say. That's probably the most endearing aspect of his personality to me. At least it's like that guy that you're like I want to just straight up. Hate you, but I can't, but damn. You got some fire one liners. Fuck you. Meanwhile Dream Boat and Matt. Trying to get upstairs matters no fucking clue what's happening? He's just like all right. We're running. Let's do this and. We're in a hurry now, okay? Know, what's happening right now? 'cause I insisted on tagging along. And, she won't tell me anything and I guess Owen assumed that she would also be coming, because he's right there waiting for her and won't let her up and she's like I used to have access whenever I wanted which I'm sure Matt's like but why. I was like well. Things change so for perspective detective Dream Boat and deluxe used to be in a relationship right. It totally sounds like she was banging the billionaire, which that is totally name of a romance novel. Banging the billionaire is not a romance novel, seducing the billionaire but. Banging the billionaire is definitely porno. Moving on the best part about this scene in the lobby is that Owen physically puts himself in between the elevator and remote. You know she's trying to dodge, and we get around him. And he just keeps stepping and sidestepping, and she's like fuck. He knows my every move. It's all the martial arts he's been doing. That's exactly right. He's got those taekwondo moves. He's got this cat like reflexes now. He says deluxe is an important meeting and I. Don't suppose you have a warrant like that is so dumb because we know that deluxe is up to some shit and dream, boat knows that deluxe is up to some shit and of course Owen. But he's not supposed to be giving all of that information away. Like. Why would they need a warrant, Owen? What are you implying? Sir took it that he was just saying that. Like the only way that you're going to have access to go up. There anymore is if you have a warrant till like forces your way up her I feel like he likes giving up too much information. Yeah, because nothing really matters because I did leave. I mean I thought warrant was specifically for like searching and looking around and stuff like that, but she just wanted to talk to Dj Deluxe Yeah felt like they had that line for lack of a better phrase. And then we go back up to the roof. They immediately give up. Oh well. We don't have a war and I. Guess we'll just leave. Glad is eight angry. Keep so fucking angry in the I feel like he's angry. Most of the show, or at least maybe like the last five feel like he's like channeling his inner Dimona with his rage. Yeah, I mean it's not like he doesn't have a reason to be angry, but it just it's a bit much. It's a lie you know when you see. A man is being angry and yelling all the time you start to wonder like what the fuck is. That guy's problem is shouting all it no totally. So deluxe is finally semi kind of explaining what he's doing here. I think you had a clip. You wanted us to listen to yell. Let's listen to this because I guess this is what it's all about. Let's try to focus on the big picture Goliath. I've got a research facility upstate where you and your friends could be comfortable and protect. What doesn't seem a difficult choice to me. Stay here in the city and be hunted down like animals. Or be my guests and a safe haven. What are you saying? Okay Liz so deluxe wants to move all the Gargoyles to his research facility upstate now and he says because everyone in the city is GonNa, know bottom, and then they're going to be like hunted, and whatever, but they are only going to be hunted by every asshole in New York City because he's trying to expose them right Yup, and if he hadn't been such addict to begin with and conniving and weird, they might still have a relationship. Yeah, they never would have left so is. is his plan that he wanted to see if gargoyles were real, even though he already knew because he had a previous relationship with the Modem and then experiment on them so like he didn't want to experiment on his girlfriend, so we wanted to wake up these other gargoyles experiment on them, but he treated him like Shit, so they left, so he wants to corner them into a position where they have to leave the city like the most complicated way to get a hang out date. Yeah like it's nuts is doing some hard core nagging? Just WanNa be friends and this is the only way you're going to be my friend. Is If I try to have you kill. I hope that. Over the course of the series we get a full picture of what the fuck deluxe was up to. From the get-go have it'd be the last episode like this was my master plan all along, and it's just that he wanted gargoyles at a birthday party or some shit. And obviously Goliath doesn't take this news well at all. In fact, so well that he destroyed a lamp post, Liz win slash y slash also. How did deluxe have Lippo's installed in the castle exterior? I don't know but I. Want to odd way to take out your frustration I. Don't know if you noticed in the scene. They put other lamposts in the background. So there's not only one like no. No, he put a bunch all over the place. Why? For All those Castle Garden parties that he hosts at nighttime for his gargoyles friends. Liz, it's way too cold up there. It's in the fucking stratosphere. And Loud Oh. Yeah, how Loudini on a Windy Day Goliath N. Dream Boat are trying to have a romantic coversation. He keeps talking and his low rumbling voice and she's just going. What are. You. Go inside. Of course. You don't know a lot of arm work lot of miming. She's like. Why does he always try to seduce me at the tippy top of this fucking castle? I can barely breathe. There's not enough oxygen up here. Can we go inside? Do, you think. The interior of the castle has to be pressurized. All right, let's go down to the streets. The mean streets of NYC where it goes back to detective dingus. That's his name now. Sorry and Dream Boat. Heading out to the car. He makes him sort of sarcastic comment about how successful they were getting through all of the guards, and it's like dude. She did not want you to be here, so shut your mouth or she will fill it with her foot. So they're flying back to the clock tower. Now they're done with their conversation with deluxe and Goliath is. Trying to fill them in with what's going on? Even though they were all there and they could hear the conversation. What happens is Brooklyn is like hey. How'd it go? Man Like he didn't hear the whole thing I mean. These are the same creatures that can hear like seven inch thick steel doors when it's convenient for the plot. Right out in the open air. Brooklyn was like Oh. No I must I missed all that damn wind. You know what that's a fair point. Fair point so then suddenly, the rogue oils show up behind them. They call him the steel clan fucking Shit Lexington like y'all seen them before. Of course he's going to bring them back again. It wasn't going to be a one and done situation. I mean to be fair. They don't know how robots work like you kill a human humans, not coming back but Lexington is the computer guy. If he can figure that shit out, he should be able to figure out. Oh, he could build more. than he does machines, he should know. I don't know. I can't tell you. I don't know if I like the term steel clan, the word clan as I mentioned earlier. It makes me a little uncomfortable. I mean they are from Scotland, so it makes sense me in my heart I. Don't WanNa, use that word alright I don't like their clan. At least they're clan with the see I. Guess Yeah, what pissed me off about? This is that they didn't hear these Steel Clinton. Come up behind them with their jet engine backpack stealth mode. They still have flames shooting out of their back. That's ridiculous. Goliath is just like rage flying right now. He's unaware of any of his surroundings. So what about Broadway? Who was not paying attention to anything and doesn't care what's going on? You know that's how he feels like I feel like that sometimes, when a conversation is going on around me and I'm like this isn't concerning me at all, so I'm just going to tune out, and then later on, people are like so did you hear what he said I'm like I'm sorry what I heard. But why don't you just start from the top just to I? Know what I think I heard. But what did you hear? What are you? You upset about all of this is to say. The steel clan shows up to fuck up some gargoyles and I mean the first thing we see is. Goliath gets shot. Yeah, he goes down hard. I don't know if you notice Liz. I don't know if you could tell. There was a bit of a difference between one of the steel clan and the other two. Yeah, what's that about? This is one of the things that I feel like full on remembered about the show from when I was a kid. Was that I'm going to spoil it here and I'm sorry if you're listening at home and watch the episode at the same time. Br Red. Robo Goyal is, deluxe? I haven't been waiting the entire series of to this point to see this like it was kind of annoying that it took so long because in my mind, it was like episode. One or two deluxe is the Red Robo logo, but we don't know this yet. Because that's not reveal to the that was a poor revealed, just jumping the gun here. That was a terrible reveal. Yeah, okay, so there's an attack and if there's one thing, the show does really well. It's these big action set-pieces. in the air on the ground like on the rooftop for all its faults. The show is great with his action. Yeah, totally, but deluxe really doesn't give a fuck about how much he destroys the city, does he? He doesn't because you know what he's rich enough to fix whatever the problem. Oh. I just made this. To the city, no reason no reason it's like when Bruce. Wayne has to donate a building to the city of Gotham because Batman got into some massive fighting back headed, blown up or some shit like. Why is no one ever connecting the dots here totally? So Daniel are the people of new. York City always this dumb that when they see lasers and explosions happening above they just gathering the street and watch it. Go down and watch com fall on them like yes, Liz, what you have to remember and I feel like you're being a bit insensitive here, but this is a pre nine eleven world. People just looked up at lasers and falling debris like it was no big deal. They had that luxury and I don't think that you should shame them for it. Okay? Okay, his I'm sorry. So. It seems as though the steel clan. They've gotten some upgrades because they are handily thrashing our borough goals Yes. It is game over man. Came over the ruble oils fly through a portion of a building and just collapse it on top of all of the Gargoyles, all of that and they are dead I mean we have sixty eight more episodes, so we know that will be fine, but it's really tends to see like they. They're not GonNa win I wonder what I thought as a child seeing this way, totally she. Well how about we take a quick break Tarlo ourselves to mourn the loss of not only this building, but our pal goals I guess the rest of the series of just Hudson Bronx. Good thing they stayed behind. Did Venture. Bronx. It's mostly watching a dog and old man watch TV. Okay you said something about a break yes. Let's do that. After tragedy strikes. Nicer to come back for the Funeral Dean D. Unites. Would up man to celebrate the life of a friend. Let's see. Until some thing happens. Now they're struggling to survive in a world they don't understand. Our. Group they failed through time and space in an epic podcast from the calamity cast network dropping. Already. Subscribe to a beginner's guide to interplanetary destruction. That's what I'm calling my penis eight seconds ago. Band wear. I everybody to the rooftops. It turns out that our friends. The gargoyles aren't going to die. Why is that Liz i? Dunno have Goliath tell us. Does doesn't want to destroy us. He wants to dominate. US Deluxe isn't the only one that wants to dominate. Goliath Hung, you know. Hell dominate that big boy any day I'll day or a day. Okay. I wrote the initial line. My notes and you made it so much more uncomfortable. I do. So Liz the dudes spend. What could be considered way too much time kind of huddling up talking about what to do next. And I am on my couch, shouting, go back to the castle. Tear it down. Because this is the wrong place to do a fight scene and you know that deluxe is over there at the castle with remote controller flying these fucking things. So why are you bothering with the robots? Why not just go fight the guy? But they don't do that, they don't sell. This is where we see the big crowd of people in the streets again and. Matt and Dream Boat Run into the midst of it. I like how matches like Yanks. The binoculars away from some random dude, who's just in the middle of the street and with binoculars as you do. You know what that is. It's like when a police officer has to confiscate someone's vehicle. Only a much smaller scale as he's either my now visual business from there. We go to the Statue of Liberty because they decide, they need to go somewhere remote to have this robo fight. They realized that they can't lead them back to their house. This goes back to my point. Why not just go to castle? Whatever that place is used to being destroyed by robots and Gargoyles, true facts, but instead they go to the Statue of Liberty, which made me actually more stressed out than I thought I was I've never been to the Statue of Liberty, but apparently I have strong feelings about the statute of liberty clad the whole time. I was like Oh God. Please destroy it. Oh, God. Give me your tired, your poor. You're hungry. Your Garg Oil Dha. Robot like it's Eh yeah, and and robot. It's where they go here. Because also, this is a tourist attraction. Right and I keep bringing it up. Like what time at night do these things take place? I am assuming because the story would have us believe that no one's around that. It's late enough that the touristy parts are closed, but because they never give. Give us a time stamp, or any indication of what time at night it is worse left to make these goofy assumptions, because what if it was this early in the evening and that place is fucking full of people to. It's not like it's always deserted. You know yeah, but well anyway, so they're they're and they're fighting and Goliath like I'll take on this red leader guy. You'll take care of the other two. And we to see Broadway. Actually hold his own. He took down a robot on his own. He does some slick aerial moves and then goes to help. Take down the other guy, the other robot. I have to say the weird finger tongue lick checkmark. He did when he destroyed. The one robot made me very uncomfortable. Oh, I thought you were GONNA. Say really hot. No I didn't like it. Misread, that whole thing and I apologize. So, yeah, he does some cool flying maneuvers, and he kind of leads his robot into the book. The Statue of Liberty is holding and the robot can't course correct and explodes on contact. He does the weird the Liqi thing and he goes to help his bros.. He flies back down to the debris of the busted up rogue oil in grabs the arm he likes football throws it through the Crotch of the other robot, and that one explodes and goes down, and it brings me back to my point of these guys should always be armed. With you get it always be. He threw an arm. Dad Jokes? I was GONNA. Say you're such a dad. No big deal. Just nailing the Dead Sea because weapons. You call them. You know it's fun. You get it you get. Thank you all right that leads Goliath and big red. Yes, I like how it's. His instinct is just to talk to things like have a little conversation at a thing that he assumes doesn't understand him or can talk back, but he's just like having a chat with the machine. Meet me. snort a little as a really good point. I didn't even think of that list, but he doesn't know. There's a dude in their you and machine. It's going down I. Don't know what he actually said, but he definitely has a conversation with the machine. They do some really cool fist fighting, which you wouldn't expect between the Gargoyles and the robot, right? We're supposed to assume that this is a robot, so there's like kick grown, and you throw a kick I. Dunno sure. Kick, you throw a punch, whatever yes, and a really handy tell swipe. Yeah, that's always cool to see, but there wasn't enough laser action here, but as we learn later, this is actually deluxe, so the kicking and punching. Make sense when you tie back to the opening scene in the DOJ. Yes the other gargoyles aren't occupied with their on charges, so they drop down, and it becomes a very unfair fight very fast. Yeah, so that's some big red realizes he's been beat and. He, just takes the fuck off and they don't chase them. It's all real weird. I guess figured he's retreating. He's not GonNa be an issue right now. which is a silly thing to assume, that's ridiculous to assume. Because they destroyed all of the previous steel clan, and these new ones came back, so he's definitely going to be an issue. Right I mean I understand that this helicopter shows up, so that's kind of why they escape the island in cover, but it's just weird that they don't leave the island to chase down this robo goal, but fine whatever. Whatever everyone leaves were left with what ends up being detective dingus in Detective Dream Boat in the helicopter with the news reporter Guy from earlier in news guy says to Dingus, he says thanks for the exclusive and I didn't understand that line and I know it's a little like nitpicky thing, but I didn't know I had no idea what was happening there. Why did they bring him along I? Think it's because dream boat wanted to really make it clear I was just robots. Robots, it's not Gargoyles, and so she let him come along for the exclusive to protect her boys. Yeah, okay, that makes total sense great. You're at Europe what's weird about that. Though is that Matt doesn't believe that there were robots. He doesn't sound like. Matt made the arrangement by the way the interaction goes, but Matt clearly doesn't believe that it's only robots. So how did that look you know? How did that arrangement go? It's weird. I don't like. Maybe it was just a man taking. Maybe just a man taking credit for a woman's work. I mean I feel like Matlab totally do that. Yeah, I mean that's what it looks like. When I try to put these pieces together, you know the news, guys that Oh thanks for the help and the do like yeah, no problem buddy and during boats in the front look. Exactly, so so let me go back to the castle, and we see Owen talking to the back of deluxe and then we realized when he steps into the light that he was the robot all along, he was big red, and he makes them comment like I'm back beatty. Wasn't that term I was like yes, off his game, and he's like got it back I'm good now. Owens like Oh, it's a real shame that you couldn't find their hideout. And he's like yeah, but I got my voting and I fucking when toe to toe with Goliath in my big fancy robot suit, and so that's pretty cool. Right like I'm back on the top eight yeah I could kick your ass if I was wearing my robots. What bugs me is like why the fuck either as Owen think that deluxe is obsessed with finding out where they live or is deluxe, actually so obsessed like who the fuck cares where they live. If that was his plan, why? Why is it a big deal? All he has to do is put something on TV to Piss. Goliath thought to make them show up. It's not like you go looking for him or he while fighting, he could've put a tracker on Goliath. Yeah, he's. Had it done before. It's these little things. The pop up throughout the episode and I I don't know if it's the writer that I. Keep going back to you now that I have his name stuck in my Goddamn head. You know Michael. reaves just having really uneven writing or I'm writing for a kid shows off to think about much or or whatever it is right I don't know, but it's these little things that bug me when you put a second thought into like that doesn't make any sense. That to the end of that episode. Do you want to take a quick break? And then we can discuss our thoughts. That's exactly what I want to do. Law. In Modern Day Bristol someone is copying one of the most infamous serial killers of all time. Jack The ripper only this time the story is different. A woman survives and decides to get her revenge by taking the law into her own hands, but in so doing, she awakens darkness deep insider if you like suspense, Thrillers Man Serial killers tune into Jane. The ripper and audio drama coming to calamity cast. Dot Com Halloween twenty, nine, thousand nine. Liz We're back. We did it. We've hit double digits. Ten episode. What did you think of this one I feel like I have mixed feelings I like that we are learning more about where they live now outside of the castle. I think Dingus is going to be an interesting addition to dream boats, life, and seeing how she has to navigate that and her constantly running to go see her boy toy. And it introduces us to Robo Deluxe, which is cool. That was an important part of the episode for sure. I think the way that they revealed that was him lame, but. It would have been cooler if the mass came off during the fight totally and been like Ha. Ha wasn't be all. If. It got knocked off accidentally. That wasn't cool. It's been like gas. God Damn it I'm angry over. Yeah. I've made my opinion on this episode. Pretty well known throughout that I. think that it had some really good bits, but it was so uneven and wonky. That I like this. Yeah, because really if you looked at episode ten in you or asked what the story for it is! What would you say? It wasn't detected. Dream. BOOB gets shot or Shows up for some reason it was. Tell Alexis being a Weirdo. Like deluxe is trying to frame them, but for unclear reasons. Ya just because because he wants his research, there's no strong motivation with deluxe still ten episodes. Yeah other than I have money and want to play with Ed Yeah I wanNA. Fuck with these gargoyles for unclear reasons because word. Yeah, so I don't think I like this one I think this one has a pretty weak plot overall, but it did some important bits, and I'm okay with that. It introduced this character detective Mat- dangerous. I think he's going to be trouble things. Still I wouldn't be surprised if they never go back to them ever. Really like she proves. Didn't need that partner and she goes back to normal. This is nothing character. What was he here to be redhead? Once your mind. Unless they're setting up something further down the line, but they didn't give us enough of this character in this episode to have me feel compelled that he was important in any way, you know, he's a guy who mentioned the luminosity and steal some noculars, and has some obnoxious little one off lines, but he's not an important character. He doesn't do anything that felt important to the episode to the story I'll be interested to see if he does continue on. On and what his role is. Liz I brought it up earlier in the episode, but do you think that Hudson wasn't in the second half of the episode? Because at has got tired of it, or he had conflicts of the schedule or something like it's so weird to have the old guy who's arm. He's not being the fight fights. Yeah I didn't even realize that until you pointed it out, but it is odd. That usually figures character okay by. Wasn't in the rest of the episode, and he doesn't do a ton of fighting. I wonder if that has something to do with the actor, not wanting or being able to portray that kind of seen very well, he's just old and tired and ill guy. He wants to watch TV. Maybe, we'll get lucky and have a good husband. centric episode I think every other characters had third venture. He's too old and learned for that. You know he's not going to get caught up with the humans. He doesn't give a fuck about humans built protect sherby these like I. don't Care Yeah. Oh well guys I think. We just finished another episode of defenders of the night. We did it as always. Thanks, a million to Ian McGowan for composing interstitial music heard throughout the show. Check him out on Instagram and twitter at easy underscore breezy, underscore Mac and listen to his music at good deeds, Music Band Camp Dot Com. 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Episode 212:  Together We Will Triumph

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Episode 212: Together We Will Triumph

"School took. unders of the night. The most trusted source for top to bottom coverage of everyone's favourite mid-nineties, animated program Ga.. Your host. Elizabeth Circle. I. Am your other host, my name's Daniel Williams and Liz were back at this remote recording shit. Again, I swore off it. Yeah. But here we are well, we're trying to different thing and I can actually see your face. Yeah that's true. It's a little bit better, but it's not the same I don't know if you can believe this list, but we are covering the finale of city of stone episode twelve season two cities stone part four. I Who Boy? Is All I can say. This episode aired September Twenty First Nineteen Ninety five it was directed by I think your best friend and mine frank par and you know what? After this one he's going to go on a little vacation. He's not going to be back until episode to sixteen so it gets to take a break finally. Twelve in a row. Goddamn. It was written by the dynamic trio Lydia Mirando Brin, Chandler, reaves, Michael, reaves. They're up this miniseries they did it together for good and for bad. Listen Pal oils. This is where we usually beg and plead and scheme our way into more ratings and reviews. But today is a special day special day a day where we get to shout out a new patron on our patriotic. Laura. Laura is a real joy and we we love goofing with Ron Twitter. She's fun we interact, and so we just want to say, thanks Laura She's a pretty big cheerleader of ours. Yeah she dixit and we dig her yes. Shall we dive right in I guess was. Set it off, Mike but I can't wait to ruin this episode for you. Now I will say I liked it better than episode three that doesn't say much but I liked it better than part three. Okay. All right. Well, take us to where we head and where we starting today. Well, we start. Where we left off, which is castle woven with Dimona about to smash up. Dream. Boat and Lo and behold we called it last episode how that Bronx Dives in and Tax Dimona to save dream. Boat. So obvious last week it was so obvious So Dimona. Okay. Okay. Buddy I won't kill her yet. But. Let me focus my power on deluxe and Goliath and then she goes tinkering with the computer again and. I mean I assume bronx? Every time they tell him things like and goes and does it yeah. It's like a Chewbacca situation I think yeah. I do not understand her plan here. She is going to cause the gas to ignite too soon. Yes. How'd what? Because they're not prepared and still in the sky and said they would explode with it how do they explode and how does she know or why does she think what she's doing is going to kill them I don't know. Yeah. I just assumed sky full of firewood equal dangerous if you're up there. Yeah I. Mean That's a fair assumption. I guess although again I don't know what she knows. Thing I didn't understand why is how did she know how to use whatever program deluxe had wanted? Here's what I don't understand. Why doesn't he have a fucking password on his computer? Just jumping ahead a little bit. She password protected when she fucks with it like when she's finished here, she puts a password on C. I thought she changed the password because he tries to put a password, but I don't know how she knew it maybe from when they worked together, he was like I trust you. Didn't he change the password I don't believe that I think that he didn't password protect it, and then she's like, Oh, well, you know what I'm going to do to keep him out of his own computer just GonNa put a password on that's what you do when you don't want someone in your computer you fucking put a password on it deluxe. Yeah she's okay. So Liz her goals are to kill the last remaining gargoyles right what does Dimona want to be the only person? In the world like I really don't understand what she is trying to do initially, it was like Oh she wants to be the ruler of the gargoyles and the humans don't exist or she controls the humans but now she literally wants to kill everybody right? She is vengeful against humans. Got It. I understand that all humans seems like overkill but sure. So she's GonNa kill all the Gargoyles the only people she feels any kind of kinship towards and then what she's just a Lo. Why how would you feel when you're the only one left? What does this do for you? Oh God I'm my brain is broken. It just doesn't make any sense. Dimona is I think the weakest part of? Episode but also the whole arc. Okay. So she's GonNa, kill our Bros., and she's GonNa Kill Deluxe, and then she's GonNa, kill Bronx and Owen and Dream Boat. And then I guess just one by one, all of the humans in New York City. Again, the world is not covered with stone humans. It's in maybe a tristate region rate and not even all them as we knew by at least the one hipster lady who was like I don't own a TV poorly planned this is poorly planned. A lot of her plans are like they're very intricate but make no sense. That's what happens when you're driven by vengeance man. Yeah. Looking out ahead. All right Liz I'm moving on because the hunter shows up and I'm tired of talking about Dimona I wanNA talk about this mysterious masked man who none of us know the identity of He's got a distinctive Scottish brogue but I who could be who knows. And Macbeth, you're like two minutes to lay. She's killing everybody and there's nothing you can do to stop her the hunt is done man I do like how he refers to the castle has the world's tallest building, which we we kind of figured. Oh notice there's some Gargoyles, and a lot of commotion coming from the World's tallest building and I put two and two together and you know a figure. But he's been there before. That's The gargoyles used to live and they know that he knows it's. Area Yeah. You know this episode it's it's not firing on all cylinders. Here's. A nice way of putting it. So the hunter is here because he's ending things with Dimona, it's time to break up. He really does make it sound like it's a break up with through, and then we go back to the past when go back to Scotland. And Ten, fifty, seven, another New Year I would say everyone's aging. But Not really I'm assuming Dimona and Macbeth just don't age Y- How many years is this into the future I think it's fifteen. Okay. So this when we see the hunter and you know I immediately assumed because of where we were that it was Malcolm's son Ken more prints dishwasher. Yeah. Prince dishwasher he is a strapping young lad fifteen years older. How old do you think that makes him do we think he was like twelve? When would say like ten to twelve when his dad died and he twenty five and twenty eight, I'm guessing yeah. Hold is big Mac. Maybe forty. Yeah I like forty, forty five. He's still seem pretty young when he fought. Dunkel's in the last episode. Yeah. All right. Anyway this all becomes important later for me anyway but yeah, I mean Prince Dishwasher he's got a nice physique going on all the young younger fellas in ancient Scotland are distributed like they're doing cross fit doing a thing with the ropes or like how to how to. Flip it over fucking monster truck tires and shit like they're hanging off the edge of the castle just doing China. Chips you up or die that's what it's called you up right. I'm more of a cardio. Prince dishwasher. Is leading his own soldiers in some kind of battle I. thought he was cast out why they got soldiers. This is like a rebellion. Are we dealing with like a star wars situation here I assumed at this point that he somehow following in England and this is him trying to take over the crown boy I wonder if they hate big Mac as much as prince dishwasher does here because he really shat on and so did you kind of last week the entire country of England? So I wonder if they're just eager to be like, you know what? No Fuck you big MAC giving him. And dishwashers is like. No this is this works out. Great for me. I mean historically yeah. The English and the Scottish did not get along I've seen braveheart. I have. Not. seriously. seriously. I mean I wouldn't call it a good movie but. That's kind of shocking. Back on task, there's a short but really kind of intense battle between the hunters soldiers and these are big. MACs dudes led by Dimona which I thought was cool. She's leading humans. Yeah and it actually like they worked well together Yeah It's a Well oiled machine for sure. It's been fifteen years of them being a team. Yeah. So she must have some favorite humans right? Think. So were you worried at all about her clan because she has everlasting youth, but her clan doesn't shouldn't they be looking the little grey at this point still little you think I mean most of them are pretty young when she was first with them by based on how she was originally aging you'd think. They would at least have some wrinkles going on. Yeah. They should be looking tired. When did we first meet them God? It's been a long time I mean it's been like forty years. We've seen these guys at least. Yeah and they just they look just as good and justice fit is the day we first met him. But again, I feel like the animator is just don't put any effort into so they're like. It's fine that is true. We've been saying that since basically the beginning of this miniseries but. They are not cared about this whole story pays them no mind almost and that's really a detriment. Yeah we get to see them. And being like little gargoyles soldiers but we don't know anything about them and they mostly don't speak. I. Think it was the guy with a metal on his chest got like a line in part as part one part two I don't know you know complaining about not having a food or whatever. But these poor guys just get the short end of the short stick short drew the shorts I don't know I'm not gonNA was saying. Something something sticks or whatever. Well, anyway the guardrails do really well, they've got their trusting Netanyahu. They've used many times. These guys are good with a net they really like capturing people. And they they're all well equipped. They've all got honed swords an good weapons and they are going to town on these rebels. Yeah. I like Dimona has kind of a signature weapon that we've kind of seen this come up organically but she's rolling with this morning star again. Yeah and she swoops down goes straight after the hunter and discos fuck and right at the Dome you know she's not fucking around like she's trying to cave his head and he like how ancient Dimona her signature is the Morningstar and modern Dimona when she doesn't have her Morningstar has a fucking giant blaster gun, it's one of the two if either Morningstar or laser cannon. Okay. So they win of course, the rebels can't handle these fucking heavy metal gargoyles superman with Morningstar's and and swords and net. Heavy, metal net. So they go back to Castle Moray. Yeah boy this goes south quick but he's looking a little tired. He looked tired but he looks the same age I think that as he did in the last one really I think so I guess he has to say he's not supposed to age maybe it's just the crown and add some years. Yeah. Why didn't he moved to castle? Eden Birthday think that's like the King Castle. I thought. So I did too I don't know maybe you just get to rule from wherever you live may maybe it's not like the White House maybe it's like Oh you already have a Li like you can just stay there I don't know I'm playing it like Eden. Birth is the capital of Ancient Scallon the hell I know. He's just at the top of his castle just like watching down which I guess makes sense that the king isn't in battle but like he's a really good fighters feel like that could have been useful but whatever dunks led his own squad rate. Macbeth, why are you being lazy fucking coward got my Gargoyles. It's fine. What I thought was funny is that he is at the top of the highest point in the tower is if he hasn't experienced multiple times near-death. Alec at the basically the same point in the same fucking castle like learn a lesson dude. You never know who sneak behind you as you've done to others and try knock your ass off a castle. Yeah. This dangerous territory up here man. So this is a part that I found really interesting Dimona swoops down and she is very happy very handy and then she grabs him and swings him around like he's the bell of the ball. He very much like then puts a stop to it, but he lets out a little giggle I like he's like. I mean I'm I'm I'm King I'm serious King Man Hey. I'm important in I'm a manly man who is also a king we don't spin. Do it again. Do it again. I was weird because I it almost seemed like Dimona was little into him or something. That's not normal founder of your army kind of actions especially from Dimona she's very familiar with big. Mac here, which I guess like if they. Did get that close. It makes sense of why she reacts to what happens in a bench when we get to that. I mean, that's classic Dimona. That's getting in your own way Dimona. So she is just fucking stoked because they didn't get the hunter tonight, but they are so close. She can feel it in her loincloth his STOIC so. You know they're having a fun time. They're touching they're being friendly, but it's time for big Mac to go. He's got very secret king business deal with you know business that doesn't involve his primary adviser. You know it's so secret not even my second in command could possibly know my king business. Sorry, that's ridiculous. Yeah. Like he offers up no excuse as to why she's not involved or shouldn't be part of this meeting that's not fair and doesn't make any sense considering her role right and she's like, okay curtsy. is off she looks him and she looks obviously very suspicious. Yeah I gotta say I would be like, what are you? Sure it gets kind of my job to be there right and I got a clip for you. I WANNA play it because we see body and he's got some shit to talk to listen to this clip because this really just fucks everything up I must speak of Dimona and hair kind the English believe the hunters tales of their evil. This concerns me how the English read their land of Gargoyles years goal. If you I wear them, the hunter will do his English and is since they are here but to destroy these creatures Dimona and had a kind off that stunned in the way of peace. What evidence does Bodey have to suggest that would work I don't know the fact that he knows that the English has killed off all their gargoyles which England bat on you why did you do that? Yeah I guess Liz was right fucking and the fact that big Mac son is like I don't think that's a good idea. Should up son you don't know you're. Like you know what? Maybe we should consider it like what no I a good king looks at all sides of the matter or whatever I'm like. Okay. But you were convinced in two seconds I mean I wouldn't say that he was convinced but to even pay Bodey lip service here is bullshit. Yeah. At this point, big MAC has been officially or unofficially allied with Dimona for like twenty plus years now to just be like, Oh, well, they killed their gargoyles would if we kill her nose, Dimona reacts to Shit like that he should know it wouldn't go well I mean it wouldn't have to go. Well, you just kill him during the day but. To. Hold on, let me back up. Let me explain the concept of gargoyles shoes. So they're stone during the day warriors by. I missed it all those nighttime wakeup scenes I just thought they were for funsies just have night jobs. So they sleep during the day whatever obviously they're trying to keep this secret is ridiculous quick question. What if they just kill boaty? Instead this motherfucker is full of bad ideas. What what good has he done? Hey, let's kill this child. Let's betray our closest allies what a fucking moron. Sarah might not be a fan of that idea. But if it's kill boaty and the rest of US survive and thrive or not kill boating and everything goes to hell quite secret to be an adviser Goddamn. I just like that Luke is like this is a bad idea I gotta go. This is dumb. Yeah I'M GONNA, go do my soldier stuff more cross it to keep this hot bod that I have now. Oh, and that hair Jesus. Rock that long main. Luke I. Mean I feel like both he and his data was good hair Malcolm in his son have the shitty hair I feel like that's just poor styling. Yeah they're just making support choices with those pageboys. Okay. So I gotTa say if you're going to have this kind of meeting, have it in the bowels of the castle where there are no windows not we're gargoyles could be listening in you morons because that's exactly what happens Liz to Mona she heard it all and she is angry I. Don't know if you're familiar with the character of Dimona Garg. Oil, which is her last name Kinda. hotheaded short tempered quick to make poor decisions based on half baked ideas and information without getting the full story I. Think let's kind of built into her. It's just so obviously a poor choice for the characters. It's laughable that it was written down by TV writer. Yeah. So we're still in we think Castle Maure, yeah, what do you think the time is busier because God forbid this fucking show tell us I don't know I would assume. If Prince Dishwasher and his crew are still around the probably what like a neither so of recovery and then back at it yeah. Unless he had to go find more soldiers like I? Don't really know. Well, the reason of course that we are bringing the gargoyles nebulous passing of time up is that Catamaran is under heavy attack in real intense although it would be funny if this happened immediately after the meeting between big MAC and Bodey. We in here, talking about betraying some of our closest allies they were setting up tragedy Shays. That's. Why aren't we paying attention? They have Chevy Chase were talking fire arrows and a whole battalion of the hunters men outside Ramming Rod, and yeah, all of a sudden. Okay. So apparently, we're having another battle. Yes. Cool. So they're fighting in they're fighting they're fighting and there are no gargoyles to be seen. That's a shame wonder why so the Scottish folk are getting their asses kicked. Yeah. I will mention again big Mac not down fighting alongside his men. nope. Your predecessor could handle that but Europe at the top a little fucking ivory tower coward. Yeah not. So uncharacteristic of big MAC to hide away. It is weird because again he's a very trained and strong warrior. Yeah. Like he could be helping down there. Of course instead he's just protecting his crown I guess yeah. Well, that is classic. Macbeth you know from Shakespeare. So He's watching all hell break loose down below and one of his soldiers runs up and he's like. The gargoyles have deserted thus and big MACs like no why our entire defense strategy is based around them being our allies and I sitting on my couch yesterday was screaming why you had one idea. You didn't have a backup plan one defense strategy. That's what you had. Okay. You deserve to lose the battle you deserve everything that's coming to at this. Point because you were not prepared now prepared but also like way to take advantage of your gargoyles army. Yeah. The fact that you literally are going to die because you don't have them is pathetic what those gargoyles had died in battle anywhere in those fifteen years right? Like you know you'd have one. You're good with one gargoyles like what the fuck doing. Dimona is fucking all those other gargoyles they're not having more. Yeah. She's the only female. Gargoyles. All right. So maybe they'll survive this attack. We don't know Liz. We gotta go to a break. We fade to black on big MACs. Dumb confused face. Term. Accidental death of their close buddy Eugene a group of six friends. In backyard fallout bunker for one last game to mourn his loss and celebrate his. All his going as well as it can until earth shaking event, hold the group into a millennia long war between two inter dimensional empires, follow the trials and tribulations of being in over your head when it comes to. War Inter species relations and the complete destruction of all universities in a beginner's guide to interplanetary destruction an award. Nominated Narrative podcast from the calamity cast network. Check it out on apple podcast Google podcast stitcher and calamity cast dot. com. Liz. Or back, and this castle is Super duper on fire no shit. I wouldn't know what the ratio of stone to would and these castles are that they burn as fast as they do. They're being pummeled by Tribus, Shave Fire and fire arrows in other things with fire in them. So maybe it's just been hours and hours of fire fire rain. Big, MAC is running through the castle little trying to find helpless Sarah of God who for once isn't like in. into. The battle, which is good but now she's doing the exact opposite. Trapped in a fiery room damsel herself. What is she doing in this burning room pick a different room, your castle. There are so many rooms. The thing that frustrated me with this is okay and I know this is based more off historical Macbeth, unless, Shakespeare Macbeth. But Lady Macbeth in Shakespeare's fucking bad ass until she goes bonkers and then she's fun. Yeah and. She just is going out damn spot all the time in Russian. Her hands off the blood that she's caused by Sarah is so fucking helpless. Yeah. It's obnoxious how helpless she is. Yeah Hey. So did she age fifty years? She has gray as Shit right? It's not like some Nice. Gray streaks like she is Macbeth Gray who's only gray because he had which spells on him. As a redhead insulted that the show would insinuate that she goes gray early. Common. Exactly. I think if anything you get like little streaks white hair that almost just like blonde I mean that's been my experience anyway. Yeah. Again, she's only like thirty five, forty years old but she is like Old Lady Grey not in the face. She's not wrinkly her skin is fine. She's got a beautiful complexion. Like she's wearing a shitty old lady wig gray. It's ridiculous. Insulting Liz. How dare? How dare you? GARGOYLES Anyway old ass Sarah She's ancient now. Okay. So she wants to flee the castle and big MACs like Nah I gotta stay I mean I'm not gonNA fight but I wanna I wanna see on the sink plays out like what do we WanNa Watch from a distance hauer going to get out of this it'll be fine but I'm I'm not gonNA leave. There's no way Oh we should go. Okay let's go. Yes. Yes. They escape using the water sewer system. Yeah I guess they fucking actually ran away big Mac left his men to fight a losing battle and fled like a fucking coward like the most cowardly thing he could have done at this point. Thinks. It's a losing battle that's where he should pull out all stops and go fucking fight. Yes. Absolutely. This is character assassination is what the scene is here. Just knowing how bad ass Macbeth as both in. Scotland. But also in modern time I can't imagine him Spain like would ever fight without me. The show means to tell us that he spent a thousand years hunting a single. Gargoyles for vengeance, but he ran away from a fight and his own fucking castle when he was King Yeah in the same episode you WanNa. Tell me that bullshit now I don't like it and I don't buy it and it does not make sense to his character as we know it I agree with you completely and I like Macbeth maybe mayor good I'm glad that you about this. As they're fleeing. We see at the front gate, a group of the rebels using a whole ashtray tree as a battering Ram. Yeah. Just afflicted tree. They didn't make one. They don't have like a cool car. And Above them on the Castle Wall Macbeth's men are throwing down huge boulders and every single one of those fucking big rocks misses the rebels. Guy's missus battle storm rivers or the Robo Cop guys when they're attacking Dream Boat in central park. Absolutely. All right. So back to Macbeth and Sarah who should show AP- standing between them and their cowardly freedom, but the hunter so has he just been like waiting up there for them to didn't feel like fighting in this battle today. He's like this isn't the battle I want to fight. I want to fight him. Yeah. I kind of wish that the hunter took out Macbeth Macbeth deserves to die right here and right now we know he can't but he deserves to from this whole you know running away from calcium maure thing. The hunter pulls off his mask and I'm like. Oh, DA but big next girl I. Don't know you. In the hundreds, it's me, prince toaster come on got. Well I prepare to speech. So you're just GonNa, have to listen Liz. Here's this Bitch Trivia recognize looser. I am Kenmore some of Dunkin. The, King of Scotland. You do remember. Duncan. Check cousin you're married at him and stole his crowd. I need to buy it back. With your blood sold young soon, all grow up. I. Don't know how familiar you are with battles. So we bit but big Mac didn't murder your dad bro, he met him on the battlefield and he beat him by throwing a marble at his face that's not a murder. It was killer be killed in that part. Do Your Dad killed my dad. So shut the fuck up, you want to dive a little deeper your dad declared war on me, Shit, bird like let's just defending my castle. The fuck is your problem. You were there for some reason defended Mike Hassle and also revenging the death of my dad which make no sense you didn't have to kill my dad did not have to kill Papa Mark Beth I can't remember his death. Well, as the two are preparing to battle I, guess they're you know getting their stances. It takes a while to get here. Dimona decides to show up. She's like Cuckoo. Sorry to be tardy to the Party and she swoops down into fight. But. She's here to fight back not to fight the hunter who she's been trying to kill for fifteen years. This guy. She's here to fight Macbeth. A perceived slight. I believe. We saw this in last week's episode. Everybody thinks Macbeth is fucking with them and he's like I'm barely a King I'm terrible at all this. If I offended you, it was entirely by accident I am sorry. Do we have to fight? We're GONNA fight okay. Understand her being frustrated look. We've had this long relationship, but also Macbeth wasn't the one who came. Up with the idea, Macbeth never agreed to it. He said let me think about it and that's apparently enough for her to be like fuck you fuck all your humans I'm out. My girls are coming with me a by yeah at no point does she think that maybe hey, I should talk to Macbeth and say I heard all that shit man what the fuck is that. The majority of conflicts in life could be fixed if people just fucking had a conversation especially in poorly written fiction, right? So you know Macbeth and Dimona are like yelling at each other or whatever and. Kenmore is just like Here's my time your bags to me stab. Stab. Stab. And that's enough like get he stab big Mac in the heart. It was just like one staff and done he just walked up behind him quietly just went stab and then turned around and walked. Like and that's a fucking cowardly moved to this episode. It's filled with cowards stabbing someone in the back like that's laying literally stabbing someone in the back right now. Piece of Shit, then Dimona goes down to. So initially I thought the sword was so intense that like he stepped both of them since they were like facing each other. I was wrong. Yeah. Liz I don't think they can show full penetration on this. Show. So I don't think we were going to get that. Big Mac. Took a stab will look like the shoulder. It didn't even look like it went through you know center mass prince garbage disposal. He says when one dies both die and how did he know that I? Think he had heard rumors it sounded like oh so what they say is true your magically Lincoln it's also convenient that apparently the refrigerator prince killed all the other gargoyles prior to this meeting. Yeah. That angered me to he just kind of Thurs out casually we don't see it. It's OFFSCREEN DID DIMONA? No. She just About US yeah. Why aren't they? Roland together Liz I've got issues with this episode I don't know if you could tell at this point. Some. Missed opportunities here to either show that because famously and fiction. If you don't show a death, it does not count. So are these gargoyles actually dead? Were they saved by the weird sisters maybe Oh boy I hope these gargoyles are still around somewhere. If they are I hope they get personalities. Why would the weird sisters keep them hidden for a thousand plus I? You know what they're probably did. I took it all back. There probably did. The. Red. Shirts in. Star. Trek. Are those the ones that always die don't question it. Do you say that Shit with confidence? I almost impress. You almost had it. You stepped on your own toes there. Yes perhaps, they are like the red shirts from Star Trek did I say Star Trek I said Star Trek right yeah list. Welcome to everyone's favorite pod within a pod was his favourite show. She's never seen before star tra-. Now back to the show that our podcast is actually about. God I on. All. Right. So both are dead. Yep there's areas crying. She said Luke shows up. Hey, Liz did you notice that the refrigerator prince? Just leaves the crown. It falls off a big MACs, head and. All Kenmore's like preuss any fucks off like he doesn't care about being key he doesn't care what his goal like did. He just want to kill the gargoyles or destroy revenge this whole series has kind of been about revenge right? You Kill the guy that killed his dad he's going to go home and put feet up he care about being king because every earlier in episode he did make a point of lane like I'm the rightful king that he said something about that in the previous episodes. Yeah. So this is obviously something he thinks about, but then when it came time huge. He could have at least taken it. No crown know king. He you know. But I don't know put this down on the list of Shit that's fucked up in this episode. Yeah. So you mentioned, Luke. Luke's here. Fine. He's like mom and she's like, Oh, I'm alive I'm just hurrying sad. Dad said, yeah, he's dead. And then you take the crown and puts it on or someone puts it on him. Buddies with him. For reasons unknown body needs to fuck off forever fucking codeine. Yeah. He puts the crown on Luke's head and declares him King Luke. This is your tr. Now Look we and then lick swears revenge on the hunter and his English dogs. Yeah. Because that's what this mini series is about. You killed my guy nominate guy then I, killed your guy you're gonNA kill my guy he's pretty much history works. All right fair I, take it all back. This episode is perfect in the series that preceded it also. So I mean, this is obviously not going to result in peace the way that boat he thought it would know like is this what he was going for because this is what should have been expected exactly. What I just said you were just talking about revenge revenge vange back and forth back and forth like how could he expect anything other than this? Why is he allowed to be an adviser? He's a fucking moron. So. Now that looks king he just like, okay boating go head back to the Castle, I? Guess. was like Nah, I'm GonNa, sit here and cry more. They just fucking walk off and leave the corpse if as recently slain father in the road, right? Like he should've like picked up his dad and carrying them back to the castle. There's a reason. Luke didn't know this but there's a reason why the bodies there and that's the weird sisters show good. Me Like it when they show up. So they tell. Dimona to Waco wakey-wakey exit becky. You know I guess it's a good thing that Sarah stay behind because she would have missed all this exposition and she wouldn't have gotten to yell at Dimona, right. So she gets mad at Dimona and his like, why did you betray him? He wasn't going to do anything you guys work together. This is all your fault. Wait what fuck you. You know your dog and she was like bullshit fucking garbage disposal king killed the rest of your Clin. What did you think was going to happen? We had a good thing. You tack protect us we protect you. act. Weird as Damone is like, no, you're a liar Michael Lands, find what you were just killed. What makes you think that anything different to your pals right why would she lie about this in this moment like? Like really you think. You're clans dead in Dimona. No insert like Yeah. Got Me. They're not dead I don't know I was just I was trying to get on your skin against I was just upset because my husband's dead in your life em Saray lashed out at you. Dimona pieces out she's gotta find her clan. We never get to see what happens. There's all this talk, these dead Gargoyles but that's all it is. We don't even get to see piles of rubble I also think it's weird. The weird waited for her to leave to wake up big. Mac, that's a good point. I guess the show wanted a tab this private moment between big Mac and Sarah that we get in a couple of minutes here. Yeah. That's the only thing that I can figure but like you said, they wake up big MAC and they spell out an exact detail. Finally, what's going on with Dimona and Ole big McDonald had a farm. Let's take a listen. Bed. Can more was wrong about you. He said when one dies both die but when one lives both there And thus you both Charlotte. Eternally, linked sharing each other's pain and anguish with no release until one destroys the other. Only then shall both elite perish. Together. All right. Well, the prince's wrong. Kind of. Get confused though. Okay. So when one dies both die one lives both live. So the only reason to Mona's alive though is the weird sisters brought her back is that correct or she not actually dead I'm thinking that what they meant is the princess wrong. It's not when one die both die unless one kills the other like a has to be one of them killing the other one. So other people cannot kill them. Yes. I don't know why there's whole dramatic like, oh, they're both dead like. Do they have to wake them up every time. Big. Mac. He's awake. That's all right. Whatever and we get to see classic pushover big Mac here. Yes. This made no sense to me at all. He's like, Hey, wife I'm not dead. This is good news right? She's like you're a ghost and he's like. Were to, which is I'm fine. Okay. But Hey, some not dead and now we should go get luke and we should defeat the hunter once and for all and Sarah's like, no, your magic and people don't like magic and they don't trust you. So you can't go to Luke we can't do this why the fuck couldn't he just be like Oh it knocked me unconscious but I'm fine. I'm not dead yet I'm getting better. and Go for a walk. Pain can make you pass out like why can't he gets me like no you guys were wrong. I didn't actually die. I was just knocked out because she knows it's magic. Sarah. Keep your fucking mouth I don't know know. And nobody else has to know he's dead. It's not like fucking Luke tweeting about it looks like, oh, he's dead interests like he is Oh fuck okay you stab once one stab it wasn't like he was decapitated or anything was these are all wonderful points that the show refuses to acknowledge instead Sarah's like yeah about that. Sweetie unique. And he's like, Oh, yeah, you're right. You're coming with me right? No I'm staying we can't both abandon abandon a are literal grown man of a son and then again big MACs like Oh. Yeah you're right right right because I'm a pushover Yup Yup Yup Yup also he's a fucking adult man in the king and the king and he's got Bodey at his side you know boating facts fact king in his own right of good decision making. Yeah. So also abandon, you're the one Sarah saying that big MAC has to leave. He's not abandoning his son. You're saying he can't be a part of Luke's life anymore in has to go on the run. Okay. Fine. He just kisses his wife goodbye ill, he was dead kit. The Thami Man grouse Y-. And then he fucking leaves with zero supplies or anything he doesn't have his sword or anything. Who? Just turns around and struts off into the Sunset Sunrise. Time as he turns on his heel and he walks away forever just like we're gonNA walk away from you. All forever to the AD break she's lying. We're going to be back in a minute. It's fine. Wow just like Bodey, you can't trust Liz anymore. In Modern Day, Bristol someone is copying one of the most infamous serial killers of all time Jack the ripper. Only this time the story is different a woman survives and decides to get her revenge by taking the law into her own hands but in so doing she awakens a darkness deep insider if you like suspense Thrillers Man. Serial. Killers tune into Jane The ripper and audio drama available now wherever you get your podcasts. I. Didn't leave forever. Trustworthy. Hey, we're in castle Ivan in one, thousand, nine, hundred five. Now back to the, we'll call it present Dimona and Vo Hunter they're facing off finally Liz. This man has been hunting her through the ages for vengeance for a thousand years I have two questions one how's it taken you one thousand years to find her to how are you not over it yet dude. A hell of a fucking grudge. Liz. If you could would you hold a grudge for one thousand years sounds exhausting. It sounds boring to like find a different hobby. I don't know I feel like I'd forget about it after like six hundred years. How does Macbeth have? He invested in Apple and Microsoft and every major corporation throughout the past hundred years or so do you think he pulled a deluxe in? Had some coins on him from way back when that are now worth like a bunch of money. Yeah I mean. At this point knowing his story, you kind of just want the show to from ten fifty seven on follow this. Yeah. What did he do for nine hundred or so years where he was just having trouble finding this dragon woman who has a pretty small area of space where she lives it's not like she's immediately taking off to like Norway or Japan or a third place. Right? She's still in Scotland man you couldn't pin that shit down eight hundred years ago anyway. Macbeth is what I'm saying, and now we're in the skies above the mean streets of New York, city and Hey. We finally get to see the gargoyles and deluxe and Robo goals all doing they're flying thing and letting gase powder stuff out and it's almost time yet liz it's taken fifteen minutes of a twenty two minute episode of Gargoyles to see the protagonist of the show you know the Gargoyles, we have seven minutes left in this episode, we get our first glimpse of Goliath. What. And I know this is supposed to lean heavily on these other two characters, but it's not the fucking Macbeth show in this episode proves that it shouldn't have been. Yeah. All right. You were saying something about farts in the sky. So they're fighting this guy an Goliath is trying to tell deluxe this plan seems like it's working and you're doing a good job. Pat On the back and then we get typical deluxe cockiness being like a Yada. Very. Awesome. Very smart genius. So of course it's working and then. They just continue talking and this weird interaction happened. This is lazy check this shit more worried about that beast of yours shredding tapestry. But tapestry the twelfth century piece on the South Wall Bronx was clawing. When we left, we must return to the castle. Okay Goliath was fucking there when Bronx's messing with this tapestry Liz. was also not to put too fine. A point on it deluxe is the richest man on the planet that's well established why the fuck does he care about the condition of this tapestry? Why is it occupying so much brain space he's like Oh, you know this planet yeah it's great but I just can't get these drapes out of my mind. I just keep thinking about how your shitty dog was by like. What are we're talking about this right now why is this important? We're trying to reverse GIC DUDE and you're worried about a towel. Then but what glances like Oh shit? We need to get back to the castle now into the two of them turn around and go. How is he putting these two things together that he didn't put together when he watched Bronx do this yes. was exactly what I guess. I wasn't paying attention before on snapchat. He's like wait which tapestry I'm guessing goliaths knows once he likes thought about he's like Oh, fuck there is a secret passage back there like we need to go but yeah, like what the fuck was he doing when he was there that he didn't pay attention to those live I think. Also why does Goliath know about the secret passageway? He wasn't always hanging out in the castle the humans did like him in the castle. Hit us the secret passageways to sneak around like. All. Right. So they go back to fucking cast cut. dammit. This mini series had so much promise at the beginning. Dimona is saying out loud what we're all thinking. Get over it. Big Mac. I don't WanNa hear you complain about this Shit I betrayed you you betrayed me and also no, he did not just by the way big Mac did not portray. But you did betray him. Yeah. I wonder how many times throughout the past thousand years that they've had interactions this same fight was five hundred years ago. She's like Oh this shit again, it's been five hundred years. He's like, yes, tissue again, you keep saying that I betrayed and I didn't. And instead of talking because why would two characters talk about an issue? It's time for shooting and Fighting Liz. He starts licking shots at the Mona. Did you see this cool move that she does? So she's dodging the laser blasts She does like a back flip then she liked spins in mid air bounces off the wall and does a forward flip kicks in and it's very cool. We cut the Bronx for some reason for comedy and he's like what's going on right now WHO's my on? What do I do? There's more punching and kicking and laser blasting, and so then when this is happening, he laser blasts, the Chandelier Chandelier comes down. Oh, that's what happens here, and then he blasts again and he hits the ground in the ground opens up and starts okay. I had to rewind because initially it was like that she ended leers big. We're not big enough to make a whole happened. Okay. I didn't even see the chandelier part I was like that fucking laser gun is insane like he took a single shot and blew a hole in the floor that causes the room to collapse. Yeah, I don't get it. I feel like the castle should have been better constructed than that. Also like is this castle ever not going to be? Student loves destroying. Castle. Just. Keep rebuilding this thing again and again and again, I would give. DELMONICO's. Fix something again. So big Mac Dimona they're fighting everyone is trying to avoid this very large hole in the floor and deluxe comes in and he tries to separate children who are having a tiff whereas. Goliath dives after dreamcoat who is about to tumble through the whole and I guess he also saves Owen didn't actually see that part like, yes. Dimona gets her hand on big mix chaos pistol and shoots a deluxe which luckily for him. Mrs. But this shot doesn't tear down the adjacent room. Did you notice that? Yeah. In the show is famous for their weaponry being really inconsistent. We've seen this many times over yes. But you'd think that this shop that she narrowly misses deluxe with would blow a hole the size of a building in the wall behind him. Right? It does not maybe there was already a structural damage to the floor or maybe this shot just went through a doorway and then a window and then another window in just went right outside and just forever maybe hit an airplane Fifty Miles, away Sarah Airplane I hope that I hope. At least it would make sense. So big MAC and Dimona end up going through the whole and start Friday town they're not giving up on this fight. And glendon deluxe her like whatever you to keep doing whatever shitty thing you guys are doing. We have other fish to fry right now they run to the computer and trying to get the timer to go back to where it needs to be because that's when deluxe like Al Shit she said it GonNa blow ten minutes earlier. Oh No, and that's when he realizes that Dimona changed the password. So he can't get into it or added a password I'm not really sure I stand by what I said earlier. He was like, Oh why would a computer needed a password and now he's like, Oh, fuck you can put passwords on computers. No. Well we're in one of a pickle here. Matter, go get that password. Only to Mona can save the city only Dimona can save the city Liz. My question here is, what is he actually talking about? Okay. All they have to do is go until the other gargoyles. Hey, take those things off and just go hang out, take off your fart packs and go sit this one out 'cause you've got eight minutes to do. So right from this point two, zero on the counter says eight fucking minutes plenty of time to save the Gargoyles also, they want the gas to ignite right which then would save the city. If it ignites eight minutes earlier, it might kill the gargoyles but it's still going to ignite like you said saving the. City, what is the fucking problem here like if they went and warned the Bros. then great maybe they don't think they have the ability to save the pros and also like keep an eye on the mass that's happening here at the mess for now. Right? Unless you know Damone and I'm going to go smash Dream Boat we'll find okay leave Goliath and then maybe deluxe with his rocket feet goes and tells the Gargoyles to shut it down early. Yeah or shut it down and five minutes give it five minutes guys 'cause then you still got a three minutes like this whole ending just fucking falls apart yeah and I'm not angry about it not at all. Sure fine with how stupid this ends up. Totally fine. Okay. Liz Down below the fistfight is still happening I guess big Mac and Dimona don't care what's going on above they didn't seem like it was necessary to take a timeout but go down. He's like, Hey, guys don't need to fight should hand on each shoulder. It's like you break it up you too and maybe the best move of the episode happens when they double Fist Punch him in the face they each look at it like fuck you and they both Simultaneously Punch Gladsden the content. Oh, God that was great i. loved it. I know it was an attack on our favorite boy. Goliath but it was also hilarious. It was pretty funny. So deluxe then like okay because it's my job to break up this fight starts shooting the laser at them but repeatedly misses Liz. He somehow not just misses but shoots right between the two who are like kissing distance apart from each other maybe he just meant to scare them instead of hurt them. This is another stormtrooper move from earlier he couldn't have missed any harder if he fucking tried like he put a laser Equa- distant from either of their faces. Yeah. It's commendable how bad he missed. Should win a fucking trophy for how bad he fucked this up. Yeah and then big like Ole Laddy I have weapons too and then there is a grenade laddy I'm hip I've got weapons I'm with it grenade. What's why? Like you're you're by the grenade dude why did you do that? What is he trying to accomplish big MAC hates castles so he destroys another floor and they all go tumbling down again. This is the first time we've ever been in. Tos Tower proper. There's like a fancy atrium that we're in right now. Yeah. It was kind of Nice. It was very neat lot of interior foliage. Yeah. I liked him the boy she go hang out there. Yeah I agree but D'Amato's out cold. Yeah. Goliath catches deluxe. He's like I've got you buddy I'm rescuing you. I have rockets on my fate. Like you can't just let the do do the Nice thing. He's going to be a Dick about it. Subtle I love that little dynamic between their current relationship. It is. It's funny like what are you doing? Oh. Good let me have this one Big Mac is going to try to get his revenge. Stupid. So He's going to drop her body on some exposed rebar or whatever. Until goliath stops him by saying. Killing her won't solve anything. Death. Never does he's a bad. Dunkin was afraid that your father would make you king. Did your father's death. Stop you from becoming king. You know you want revenge for your father. Did you come gains depth settled that score Mo- did your own death save your Son La? From Kenmore. Death is never the answer. Life is. I'm just. Sleep. To give big some credit, his lived for like nine hundred or so years and the only way for him to just pin his final chapter to just beat done is to kill this lady right? Like he's just exhausted he wants to be done. This seems like the best possible outcome for lot of people goliath. You don't have big Mac anymore. You don't have Dimona anymore. You still have this fucking Robo idiot over here but he's kind of fun. Now he's kind of he's kind of endearing. He's like all the I've been talking to myself for the last four episodes of so happy to have someone else in talk to exactly we learned that he's just kind of a Dork. Luckily, the weird sisters show up again will these three just fuck off already now they will not know they will not. They're like, Hey, big Mac do you ever recall death solving your problems? Your Dad Died Oh, Gill died you died that turn out. Okay for anybody. And again in those instances no. But in this specific instance, if all he wants to do is shut it down. This is the key. Why is everyone saying? It's not. So then they put them to sleep. When they're asleep like this are they in like a dream world somewhere like what the fuck? I don't know what pisses me off about this is that all of this stuff that happened to Dimona too big Mac everything that they brought up is their fault. They set him on this path. Yeah. They are the ones that told him that for him to die she has to die. That's the only way to end it right but then they're like, Hey, don't kill her. That's the bad idea. Why did they drag this out? So deluxe is cool but I need the code to save the city. His city specifically is he's like this is probably really interesting, but I'm on a tight schedule. Can we come back to the? Can you focus on me again please like, Hey, hey, over here. Need the code. Everyone, look at me, everyone. Access talking now. So the weird sisters do magic on Dimona and they try to force, they tried to force some introspection on this poor old old woman and I know we just played a clip, but we gotta, Lisk Clip will it work lives? Let's find out. I will have vengeance for the betrayal of my clan vengeance for my pain but who betrayed your clan and who caused this pain? The Vikings destroyed my clan who betrayed the castle to the vikings the hunter us down who created the Hunter Kenmore destroyed the last of us who betrayed mcbain to? Your thirst for vengeance has only created more sorrow and the cycle Dimona. Give us the code. She's going to be a new see. This would mean a lot more sense to eat in the Macbeth on because this is like, yes, Dimona really did 'cause all these things but again, the weird sisters are the ones that cause all this shit not all event like she chose herself to. Work with the in the original nine nine. No you're right. You're right. You're right. They don't go back that far. She made all these decisions. Yeah. She was already on that path in the weird sisters just kind of Lake joined it. You're right. I'm wrong although I wonder where they behind that shit to who knows. But the most ridiculous thing learn here is that her past Her Pascal crying because it's so sad, Liz the. Her pass code is a low. She's really when she says it poor little baby a five letter word. Okay. Five digits you're telling me deluxe doesn't have some sort of packing algorithm that couldn't have broken that. I mean in nineteen ninety-five that couldn't have taken more than a couple minutes try to out. Right sure. If you're smart because I read an article on the Internet. I'm sure he'd been before did in modern times a five stroke password with only letters take a hacker ten seconds Oh my God, and again the could've said, hey dudes come hey, Brooklyn Broadway come here no no those over there compare tick him off. Okay another GONNA explode. So I'm glad you took those off like. Cities they'd Liz. Select steps to computer. And Dimona. Wakes up. She's like you chicks you bastards you. I gave you the passcode and none of this right and she learned nothing. No, she literally continues to blame everyone but herself course none of this is my fault. It's all the humans and you Goliath and you weird sisters and you to look so wherever you are. And the weird situation like, okay going to sleep. There in the little girl forms in this point which I didn't understand. Okay. No they're in the little girl form when we're seeing them from goliaths, glide sees them as little girls. They were in the Old Lady Forum when Macbeth was talking to them and then they're hot babe form also in this section too because deluxe can see them. So I, guess that's from Alexis point of view. Yes. I'd still don't understand why this is necessary. It's not it's really staley it's fine I guess. But when they grab onto Dimona, we see them as the little girls which I guess is Kinda? Funny because she cannot move. They are restraining her and she is fighting them and she can't struggle free and they just put it asleep. She goes to sleep dislike I assume the same as big MAC yeah. If this is the thing that they could do it. Any fucking point in time? Why did any of this happened? I don't know why is the city in chaos Liz? Why did they allow her to turn everyone to stone because they kept being like, ooh demotion. ooh Blah Blah like I don't know what their mission was here because they're assholes. That's what it is. I mean just like big Mac Just like Dimona fucking assholes that makes sense and they're asleep Goliath is like oh that's a relief. Would we do with them now? They're like, well, they're kind of our responsibility. So we'll keep an eye on them. We made them, they're our children I would be so angry if I was Goliath you could do that. You could just take them away. Why did we have to do any of this? and. We don't know where they go. So the weird sisters, they just magic them away in like a ball of light and then they're not a problem anymore Yup anx weird sisters, and from there we went back to the roof of the castle. Yeah. The story is almost over city of stone is almost finished. They only thing left to do is watch the sky cats fire and see if life returns to normal. and. You called it Liz do you remember 'cause I was like how the fuck or they're going to ignite this gas and you were like they're going to blow up the robots and that's exactly what happens. Yeah that's it I mean it works. Everyone's happy. Dream Boat comes back to her fleshy self. Owen turns back to normal yet until the gargoyles all run towards dream boat to give her a group. Hug She's like. Everyone else. and. They're all hugging and then deluxe comes up to Owen and says, you'll forgive me if I shake your hand owens like, yeah, that's fine and then they shake in. Well, we'll. They didn't see the camera pans in a little bit and while the shaking their hands while we don't see is deluxe with his other hand returned and Cup owns but is like Shaka. Shaka Shaka. Squeeze a squeeze a squeeze squeeze squeeze. Good to have you back buddy then. Yeah. The episode ends what Deluxe being like. You know. Sometimes I wonder why I let you guys live and then I realize sometimes you're handy in glide is like, yes sometimes you you are occasionally Hindi to catch big and then they cup each others butts and we fade to black. Lives we're GONNA take one more break. When we come back, we're going to discuss some feelings I know you've got some questions and I've got some questions and. Save can work through some shit. Fair sounds good to me. Diane. Remind me to get Cherry Pie filling. Water. Oh. Come on man I told you I don't even like David Lynch. Yeah but you've never seen twin peaks. You might really like it. You never know there is absolutely no way I'll get into that show and I'll prove it okay. I'm intrigued how I'm going to watch every single episode and Co host podcast where we discussed all the ways in which I can't stay in the show. Yeah. That seems counterintuitive I. Hope it's funny at least you bet your cherry pie we'll be. Funnier than that, I hope shut up subscribe to the Black Lodge Complaint Department on Apple Podcast or wherever you get your podcast and check us out at calamity cast dot com. We're back yes. We have just finished the city of stone miniseries believes you had a question? Yeah. Do you think this is going to be the start of something causes between deluxe and? Or do you think like? One time things we work together and we go back to beat enemies. Hope it's the former. Me Tell think that would be really fun I think changing dynamic in any series can be positive. I don't feel like ever reason for deluxe to be a Lynn I say. I can't imagine. Working. Again, that would be stupid. Feel like she's proved several times already that he really shouldn't trust her and then this happened and. This is a big deal. This is a break relationship I can't imagine being. Liz. Did you like this. Did Not like it. I'm trying to think where falls in line of like episodes I really haven't. Well I. Think the the worst part is that this many series had so much potential in answer answered a lot of questions that he had since the beginning but not in a very satisfactory. Yeah I'm more disappointed because we liked the first episode of this series a lot so that made me really excited for the episodes to come and the just progressively got worse by still. Can't assigned I thought this was worse episode three, part three, I think that overall, this series took too many wrong turns to get where we ended up and where we ended up is for all intents and purposes where we started most part, we just have a little bit more information. So it took four episodes to answer to very specific questions how do Dimona and big know? How is Dimona et alive after all these years and I feel like four episodes it's too long to answer those questions I feel like in that timespan, they probably answered some other questions to I don't know what but like I feel like there could have been other things that happened I. Don't know there were nuggets of this. I really liked and there nuggets sounded like, Oh, this is GonNa be good and then they just kind of fell flat. How do you feel about the weird sisters? Do you hope they show some more or are you like me where you to go? You I would much rather have macbeth back but no good sisters like I'm done with them. They're the face, right? That's what the weird sisters are their face. Yeah. So they knew all of this was going to happen. They knew there was gonna be no upside to any part of this story. Why did they send it all in motion? Is it like a puck thing or latest doing it for their own enjoyment what I'm asking what what did they get out of this knocking the humans favorite pastime. Day are asking I. Hope they don't come back and. was that city stone for better and for worse? Answered the questions that we were very curious about yet an unsatisfying late. That's a real bummer Obama, the questions we've been warning to now for so long. Well, we're done with it. Sorry Pal. I hope you didn't like this one as much as. I. Don't WanNa disappoint everyone by me always shitting I feel like a been shitting on the show for weeks now. A couple ones that we really liked the season dea but still I mean city stone just kept going downhill for me personally, and then is a month worth of episodes. Yeah. Listen I am sorry everyone. Next week is GONNA be Great. Well, well, well, look where we all ended for better for worse finished another episode of. 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Episode 113: Its Alive!

Defenders Of The Night

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Episode 113: Its Alive!

"As the host of defenders of the night and official representatives of the clammy cast network Daniel and I would like to make it clear that we and all that we represent as podcasters in humans are firmly on Waverley, anti-racist as a couple of white people drenched in societal privilege. We will never understand what it means to be black in America. Instead we will listen. We will learn, and we will grow to become better allies in the fight. Fight for equality, there is a lot of darkness in the world, and we hope are goofy show about nineties. Cartoon can bring you a little laughter during the fight, but we are by no means a distraction. Never forget that black men and boys are again being lynched. People of color are still being gunned down by police and Briana Taylor's killers are still free to put it bluntly. All black lives matter fuck racism and fuck the police. moved. We Are Defenders Day. The most trusted source for top to bottom coverage of everyone's favorite mid-nineties animated program because God. Who that's. I I've never watched the show. I am your host Daniel Williams and I am your other host Liz. Urkel Liz we did it. We watched a season of gargoyles this season for. Only thirteen episodes, but you know what that's okay. Yeah, today we are covering season one episode thirteen of Gargoyles reawakening the full circle here. Yeah, really just finished on a high note with these. Tell me more Liz. This episode aired February Third Nineteen, ninety five. It was directed by Subaru Hashimoto in Toronto and it was written by I'm beginning to think my favorite gargoyles writer. Brin Chandler reaves. She's doing it right. Yes, this episode, just going to spoil it right now. MAZING is definitely a good way to end a season Homma. God so much emotion so much pay those. It was a really. I loved it. Which is a great? How much we hated the last one kidding rollercoaster with some of these episodes man, would you just go screaming down at the bottom with episode twelve? The season finale takes us back up to that crest, and then yes, I, guess you I. Don't Know How rollercoasters work I. Guess You gotTa. Go Back Down. Must We. Before we dive into this family of Gargoyles? We to ask everyone listening to leave a five star rating and review on your podcast of choice. Can you do that? We'd love to expand our audience. Our our Powell's WanNa see some ratings and reviews. Come on how we know you're listening, because we are the best, and only as far as I'm concerned cargo podcast. I'm not willing to believe that anyone has ever done a podcast about anything. Even related to cartoons. Let alone gargoyles. I'm pretty sure. This is new territory. Well, you know we are ground breakers and all that there's one thing you gotta. Know about me, Liz. Don't do research now you don't. That's my, I don't even watch. These episodes I make these notes up entirely. How are they pretty good there, you, you are Neyla net with that accuracy just comes to me. Shall we I? Guess I've been rambling a long time. All right well, our episode starts in the. Streets of New York City. Where a small little mom and pop shop is being held up for apparently the third time that month. Yeah, this burglar. This rubber I don't know are they did the same thing it doesn't matter. He takes off down the street a successful robbery. stor? Yeah, I don't know why I assumed it was Christmas Eve that doesn't make any sense and it was snowing. It gave me Christmas Eve vibes and I mean we've better follow this guy because I'm sure that he's going to play a very integral role in the plot of the story, right, you'd think no. Is. Actually we follow him. And then we overshoot it and we travel back in time a thousand years, so we go back to nine ninety four ad. Scotland were being taken back to the ninth at Goliath and not yet Hudson attempt to track down the Vikings. We all remember those guys because it takes so we really are ending where we started. Yeah, because and put that together yeah. Anyway I have to say anytime. It's a Brennan episode and we do a flashback. I get really excited because she. She doesn't really well, she does the show really well. Yeah, we are seeing new parts of this story, which I always am a fan of I hate when we flash back to something in any TV, show and you see the same thing over and over again like the audiences the same thing, but a new character is introduced. Introduced to the information I'm like no, no, no, yeah! If you're not showing the audience something new, don't do it. Yeah, exactly and this did this gave us new stuff. This is great. We are introduced to a whole new character new gargoyles. Yeah, this is nuts. Mere seconds into this episode. We have to immediately pause for everyone's favorite podcasts within a podcast, calamity cast very own lizards favorite show that she's never seen star Trek next generation I was curious. If this voice actor was star person or not, yeah, it's a long title for a show. We should probably shorten a little bit, but we're introduced to like I said a new gargoyles voiced by iconic shampoo salesman Michael Dorn. You know Michael Dorn Right. You know Neutrogena. T GEL NEUTROGENA. It works. Tell me more about Michael, Doran well famous as he is for. The shampoo commercials, he also maybe known for portraying starfleet very favorite klingon. Security. Chief, WARF. Gave, you heard of that character. You've never heard of WARF KLINGON warrior. Left champion. Jesus. Not only was he on the starship enterprise for seven seasons, but he actually crossed over to deep space nine. Did you know that at least now? Why would you said you never heard of the character? It was a dumb question. Liz I'm sure you knew this fact about warfare character that you never even heard of before right? Yes, Deanna troi character play by Marina Surtees, Dimona. She in wharf. Were lovers on Star Trek. Aboard the starship enterprise, it seemed like they had a little something something going on. Yeah, so Goldstone and Dimona in another universe totally ban. So goliath prepping to hunt Vikings which we know, he and Hudson go. We've seen that before. They don't succeed Dimona being Dimona and Anti all of those, and then suddenly the Magus shows up. You're all suck. Goo You need to go in do. Get them. Before they come back. PISS my robes. ooh, oh! God, he's standing on the wall of this popped out of nowhere. Go to your job. Dude. What I'm doing, I'm getting hats unready. Do. We need to do and stop the Vikings. I'm a little boy. It's weird that he said that on children. I know so Dimona and new guy whose name we don't know yet are talking about. Why are we spending our time and energy going after these vikings when these humans don't even appreciate US Moral Dimona Song? Yeah, not Hudson stress up the he does a Strut. He's just stares, and he delivers this line or guard criminal more. Stop protecting the castle in breathing the Air Am. Am I wrong in assuming that the Gargoyles as a clan have been around long before the castle has been there. I believe Dimona says as much yeah, maybe he's saying like it's inaugurals blood to protect period. What he says the castle we find out later that this is apparently like Hudson slogan. Yeah, there's like you says all the time and they are broke oils. Just like okay. We get at Grandma spouting off of this bullshit again. I don't like that line because we know that the gargoyles have been there long before the castle was built, and it kind of makes Hudson sound a little bit like a collaborator to an extent. We are here to protect and serve the humans in this castle, and it's like no man. You're not used to be free. Yeah, that makes sense. To think about this. Well, that's the end of that scene would jump back to present time. Rogue Oil's going out for a movie. I appreciate that they finally acknowledged that they live above a police station. Like why do we need to protect this space? The police are there. Not much can really happen to you up there. It's the thing I've been saying for weeks the Brooklyn. He lays it out perfectly Hudson we live above a police station. What could happen? He says it because they asked if he wants to go. See this new movie. That's coming out and Hudson's like. Why would I go to a movie theater? It's going to be on cable eventual eventually and I'm just going to jump ahead there. Watching Bambi I've never seen Bambi. Bambi did not come out in one thousand, nine, hundred five, so this whole conversation of like Oh why would I go? It'll be on cable soon. What when did it become out like the forties nine hundred forty two? You know Hudson just doesn't want to go out. That's fine. Someone's gotTa protect the castle. Some inconsistencies here I mean why not say at least was ninety five Aladdin the act. You think, Aladdin. Done fucking Little Mermaid and it would've made more sense than Bambi. For their movie and Hudson staying in with a warm blanket and a hot chocolate and dream boat just shows up to say hey, she can tell. The glider is grumpy. He's standing on the other side of the clock face brooding brutally. Route to Dream Boat I didn't like it. I didn't understand these vibes at. Group and taking it out on her for no reason. Why did something happen between them that I forgot about in a previous episode lake. Also before she shows up. He's smiling at the brogue oils, and you know the interaction between them and Hudson He. The camera cuts the camera whenever the camera cuts to him and he's like these guys. This is my family is. What a fun bunch! And then they leave and he's like I. Can brew can't let the Children See Daddy angry. Yes? Maybe you know what it was. Maybe it's because she never fucking calls I. Just shows up. Maybe maybe he thinks he deserves better. She drops in every night. She doesn't knock. She's just like. She doesn't care if I'm in the mood or I, maybe she should just get to work. It's real cold shoulder shit, you know. But then mood like snap changes again. Yeah, because she's like okay, yeah gotta get to work. She's like Oh, you seem upset then he's mad at her. She's like whatever it's fine. Work by, and she does the whole police model like. Protect and serve and like suddenly. He's wait what tell me more. What is this like? Spend on this price? And maybe he's just being broody because he doesn't have his castle to protect, so he feels like what is my purpose like why? Why am I here like? My whole concept of my existence isn't being used anymore so now what it seems like that kind of attitude should have popped up earlier in the season them yeah, not episode thirteen suddenly. Who's just like who was the meaning of life? What am I doing? Real your vibes. He does your vibes in general sometimes so he gets really fucking excited about this whole protecting and serving the public thing, and just like can I come? She's like sure I wouldn't go. To work like typical like dude fashion. He doesn't ask is like I. Think I'm GonNa come with you. Maybe I'M GONNA. Come with you and she's like. I'm on my shift like I'm working and they have a partner now. Am I supposed to just like have Matt Not Notice you? It's where that he's so excited about this now, and he never considered like. Maybe protecting serve like what did he think? She did I don't know because she explained what a detective was on episode two. She's brought this up. You know what I do. Have you not been listening to me for months? I mean obviously not. It's time for work. I always think it's weird and this show where there. You think that we're going to follow logical trail. Okay. Now it's time to go to work, so we go to work now. It's work now. We go to Castle Wibran. Weird Dr Frankenstein style lab situation happening Layton unabashed and Frankenstein action here. and. We see that there's some sort of body on a bed, covered Dimona, doing weird witchcraft stuff, and because doing his science stuff. What is she doing? Oh She knows magic now. She just knows it right because before that she had to have. The book is still the good. Then the get the book. But gargoyles got the book back to wait, but maybe it stayed at the castle. Maybe they didn't bring it with them when they left the castle because I don't happen when they were still living at the cast. No, no, no, no, no, they broke in, remember in own tried to stop them Yeah, it's not like they gave the book back yeah. Dimona just knows magic, apparently Dimona house whatever skills they need her to have, and they say that it's like a mixture of science and magic or whatever, but we don't see the magic part. She has like A. Kind of thing where she's like ads all mixed up, and then we see her like sprinkling the sparkly powder over the body, I must have missed. That must have been looking away because I was like I see a skull with a candle on it and I guess some incense burning. David was just like you know what this lab needs. School handles. The fuck do. This castle in the the building that holds it up. It's a mind fuck I would like to know what's in every. No ear said that's a billion times but I really want the blueprints of the building in the castle. We know for sure that the castle itself has at least forums. It's got a great hall. It's got a TV lounge. A restaurant sized kitchen. Yes, and a Frankenstein lab. It appears as if they're going to bring a gargoyles to life and they do, and it's not just a gargoyles Liz. It's a cyber oil. Yeah, part, stone, part metal. It's Michael Dorn Gargoyles and they name him. Maggie Moo. Round ice cream place the name in cold stone. Name Him Him Robin Baskin Robbins Rally. screenplays can only assume that cold stone creamery did not exist. Liz what are your Go-to? mixon's at Colston creamer I can't even tell you the last time I've been to an ice cream place. I can't eat dairy. I can eat ice creams. Most ice cream places. Don't have a dairy free option. You should go to Isis plan and fans. They always have one. That's dairy free, but almost always every time I've been there. It's been the German chocolate which is, you can use the base though for anything. This is good condo for our worldwide listeners. My local ice cream shop and it's delicious though. I thought it was really interesting that this is the first time in a wild that we actually see deluxe in Dimona. Working side by side like it's always been like Dimona off doing things, and we know that deluxe kind of like behind it. A little bit are helping her I'm not convinced I. Feel like the EB and flow in when their plans and plots coincide, then they come back together, but also they're evil separately. Yeah, and sometimes they were too I. Don't know I mean. Their relationship is so bizarre that it's really hard to tell it's frustrating I. Think a little to me that in general like we are a full season in, and we're still just as confused about their relationship in yeah, working partnership at all that because Dimona will openly say kill all humans as she's standing next to this dumb, it's until. we've also clearly seen her as capable solo villain. Right that doesn't need this human guy like if her plan is to conquer all humans or run the world, or whatever her dumb shit plan actually is YEP assessment killing goliath crawl out of that dude's butthole. Now you know, go fucking kidnapped the president or some shit. I don't know she's just so obsessed with Goliath I. Don't understand God is one dude. You think he because he's around. You're going to fail at your plan well. It's because she's tied any plans that she has directly to the other gargoyles right like your plans are just to fuck with the other gargoyles. You don't have plans of world, domination or whatever? So Dairy Queen Wakes up and Dimona jumps up in his face, and she starts immediately spouting off about how glide is a race traitor, and it's like Oh for fucks. Sake this again. She trying to convince de cue that Goliath has been seduced by the humans beliefs and I mean he's definitely been seduced by human. Something of you know what I mean do not mainly as China. It would yeah. We're talking about dream boats vagina. Goliath likes the glass and detective. Dream Boat have a sexual relationship. That's the bit here. Thank you. Just in case. Any of our listeners to be left in the dark. What confused me even more when she's trying to be like he betrayed. He left us all to die then she's like you are the way you are because of him. Bet You literally just made him. Be This weird hybrid thing? Yeah, that's you. How is this goliaths fall at all that you guys brought him back to life right? Q was dead. He didn't need to be woken up. reanimated I have to backtrack a little because we forgot to mention deluxe is very important line during the. Right Right It's. Like Oh, my God really, and then he just. I always wanted to say that. God, Damn Deluxe I know. Totally stepping out of himself for a minute, which is fine. It was funny, not really deluxe his character. No I'll let. Not The jokester. I guess he had to have his fun somehow. So back to dairy queen being, alive Dimona leads into a mirror and says this is all Goliath. Fault that you are cyber oil and if he just sat quietly for fifteen seconds to think about it, there's no fucking way that he could buy into that right right. He's been dead for a thousand years. And the first people he sees Dimona and deluxe. Glances nowhere to be like right. He should at least be questioning this logic, saying like hey, just so like I get it and you get it, but for the humans in the room. What the fuck are you talking about when you say? Could you spend on this theory? And who the fuck is this guy? Well? She says this is my human servants. Funny. Face. So mad argue with that. Though is doing what she wants. Yeah, whatever that is yeah. I always just want more from Dimona going back to before d. q was really. You know, she says your science in work, my magic and work like our plans to destroy the Gargoyles, for whatever reason and also by the way that's not deluxe is plan, but anyway like. How was this a better plan, right? How is reanimated q a better plan than again using the Gargoyles to have? Yeah Yeah I, don't I literally. Don't understand what the purpose of this is other than it's cool. It is cool, even talking about it and shit talking it now, pulling apart story like this episode. But? It doesn't make any sense. No, it doesn't when you sit back and think about it, but. Cloud sounds bad ass, and he's voiced by Michael on Dohrn so now. How did they get his stone? They did not explain it. I have to assume that it was broken up. Pieces of Gargoyles were broken years ago. They just sat there. They were never moved. Okay, yeah, like unless you're just like gathered up all these pieces and just been holding onto them for thousand years. We don't know her story. Don't know her, so we don't know if she's actually had been frozen for a thousand years or what and again if Goldstone just paused for a second and been like. Okay goliaths betrayed us by going after the Vikings. Dimona you alive. Are Any of them alive? He doesn't know that they were frozen for a thousand years. Right Colston doesn't know shit. Hold Stone Use your brains of the scene ends with a classic Darth vader new. And we moved to the mean streets of New York City. And Matt's back, yeah, he'd been gone for a couple of episodes for was he in last week's episode, was he in the locker room I think that was him in the tiny white as. Shit when his booty, yeah, well, he's going to check in on the guy that was robbed at the top of the episode and dream boats like I actually don't want to do my job. I'm just GONNA hang out out here. You go talk to the victim. He was like wait. What are you doing? She's like I need to gather my thoughts. Like. What the fuck you get your ass in here. Come. Do Your job with me. That's okay. No, what never mind? In Matt goes inside when he's out of sight, Dream Boat Radios Goliath on her little lapel mic, and she says this thing picks up. Everything and I laughed so. Because it is a microphone. That's what they do. She's like what is. This technology is astounding They're discussing why this shopkeeper stays open, and she gives a a really solid response. Can I play that for you? Yes, please. Why does that man keep shop open? He could be robbed again. Why does not leave? This is a neighborhood Goliath. The big markets won't even come here if he closes the store, people will have no place to buy food. That's more important to him than hiding in his own little castle. This made me wonder is Goliath, unfamiliar with the idea of a community no because I mean, his clan was his community like they had their clan that they worked then with the humans together in that castle, they were a community. Yeah, he's like Oh. People can help other people I feel like this is where the gears are starting to turn in his brain of Oh I'm not just stuck guarding my people. is a real thesis statement in this rate But? I thought it was really interesting than talking about food droughts. You know that is a major issue that happens a lot of cities because she said you know. The big stores refused to come to this area and without the small store these people would starve and look at Disney talking about how inner city stuff works ninety five. Yeah, before they can get into it anymore over the police comes code three and we got st go. Do you think code three is Cyborg? Attacking Times Square. His. I'm curious Police codes. Is it times? Square Times Square Times Square. Times Square I. Don't know. Please just keep saying I've been once a quote. The response in the United States is used to describe a mode of response for an emergency vehicle. Responding to a call, it is commonly used to mean use lights and sirens. So it's literally anything and it's also called a hot response. That's lame. Dream Oh and Matt show up two times squared. Get the scoop from officer Morgan. Aka One of Dream Boat Sexual harassment. Victims from the last episode Aka Goliath as a human officer Morgan, who knew he would be making so many return cameos so absolute chaos going on fuck had a police cars there I'm so worried about officer Morgan and his case with internal affairs and should dream. Even be talking to him like he doesn't have his union rab. Is there a restraining order? He seemed totally chill. I guess so. I guess he's good at putting on a front. Will you know he's staying strong? What are we talking about? Something going on in Times Square. Okay, why did Dimona? And Deluxe just have him go buck wild in this place is to draw out the other guard. Rules like again. They pick really odd ways to force them out. I feel like I would say yes, because as far as I remember. They still don't know where the gargoyles lives. You're right. Yeah, so D- Q. is just wreaking havoc in the middle of Times Square and the two detectives Matt and Dream Boat that go out and confront him. Guns drawn and I could not help, but think y are any other police officers out there with their guns out. I don't know the scene is surrounded by cop cars nights going and. No one is standing at the ready. You know hiding behind doors guns. ow shouting through a megaphone nothing. They're just watching. This destruction happens. Shit is crazy. more robotic gargoyles again again and I like how Dream Boat doesn't know what this thing is, but she knows gargoyles real and yet her first instinct is immediately to shoot this thing. Yeah, so. D- Q he doesn't care. He's not aware of his surroundings. Now let's happening and who these people are, and what these flashing lights are, and he instead decides to lift a car over his head, and he takes aim at these two cops with a car. Yeah, like you said they start firing at him and they know robots. They've tried shooting robots before. Matt is intimately familiar with trying to shoot a robot. And it doesn't work. nope, in this doesn't work rather just goes. And before we see what happens, cut to commercial break. Shall we do the same, yeah? hunky hero and a fantastic leading lady brought to life with love and loss just past indulge in radio drama filled to the Brim with romance, laughed at wonderfully awkward moments become with a new relationship and don't forget those delicious sexy parts that make romance novels. Ozo- fun to enjoy season. One of eleven last is available now at calamity, dot, com, or anywhere that he can find podcast. And we are. Back and we're still in. Times. Square Times Square well. Cold Stone is about to do his thing by Goliath swoops in and stops him I mean he just fires from the sky like a bullet. Yeah, he slams dairy queen, and it kind of has the same effect with the car where it goes flying towards detective friends. smashed. And I missed what happened? Did goliath immediately go check on dream bow, or did he throw some punches I? See Slams into d Q., and then the next thing. I saw I was typing typing was a him checking on his lady love, and she is like what the fuck is attacking us. You know I guess I was typing notes. There's something 'cause i. don't think he. He quickly gets to dream, but regardless of what he does. He doesn't recognize his friend yet. He's like it's another robot of deluxe is no. No, that's not what he says she asks. What is this and he has fucking nerve to call dairy queen, an abomination Oh, he. Dare you sir. I was shocked by that. I guess because it's some weird hybrid thing, but so how the fuck does he know right? He is obviously part, flesh, part, steel, or whatever medal isn't always flesh I guess mean I'm just yeah. Why would you call? It doesn't abomination not any of the other Romo. Goals. Robo goals that he has fought over the last. However, time works in the show because he is specifically trying to hurt. His words as weapons to be fair kind of works to the. Goliath as being an asshole. Yeah, so dairy queen, he immediately recognizes glides, even though Goliath does not recognize him, and he does a dramatic point. He's like you and a Goddamn laser cannon popped up out of his arm and takes. How what do you think are the rules to this guy's robotic parts? I don't know because. One. Dimona and deluxe have been like all right buddy. Let's give you a low down of what's going on your body like I know you feel differently. Things are changing. It's okay to your body. It's it's your choice by the way. If you fling your arm this direction. A laser pops up maybe like you flex a weird muscle in your arm. A little arm Boehner. Arm Boehner. There's a really cool hand to hand combat seen here and win Goliath in D. Q. Get up close. We get this really cool interaction here. Let me play this four. Oh you. You. On My. New are might big Schreyer. So dramatic so much emotion, Oh God God your notes. It does have a very bucky Barnes, a all my God. That makes this even more shit this episode so good right? Yeah I'm GONNA have to. Watch just for funsies. Yeah, so major end of winter soldier vibes here Yes to warriors once close friends now fighting to the death. Yes, that's one of my favorite marvel movies. BTW Yeah, it's definitely I would watch that any day of the week, so these two are fighting in the streets like nobody cares dream. Oh, doesn't care Goliath doesn't care. Nobody cares if people see them anymore, okay does. Not was so do we not care that? The entirety of New York City knows now. Because a flying fuck! Hell is happening in Matt. It's just like. What is? FUCKING Because even the GEICO was like no, I did not only robots. So, all of this explosion happening and I guess they happen to be fighting right outside the movie theater that the oils, are you? Know the old timey movie theater in Fucking Times Square. find out that they're watching. Bambi. Yeah, they're watching Bambi in a movie theater in Nineteen Ninety Five, the is located in times cubed next though sense, but they hear all the commotion and the explosions Winded Bam I didn't know. Bambi had explosions or something like that Lexington says I mean. I've never seen Bambi again, but is I mean there's a hunter right like someone shot. At least Bambi mother dies was I believe it was the first case of Disney murdering someone's mother. They really don't like moms. And Disney don't like mums. It's very rare to see a dead dad and Disney. It took them a long time to be like. What if we just didn't kill the barons rave? The MOM turns into a bear. She she's alive survived. She's awesome. That is really interesting that frozen. They're both parents and they didn't start out. Did they died in the move? Anyway. So we go back outside from the movie. Theater and Goliath is fighting, and it seems like he's losing. D Q. is about to pull a ban on glide. Just fucking. Break a moment his knee. And then suddenly, a flying hubcap shows up. I love that band. Flying up cat flying hubcaps. It's the brogue oils man. Broadway is pissed. Did you hear that line delivery now? Whom down. Yeah Broadway fucking steps up. He slowly has been. I think he's had the most character growth this season like he just started as the bumbling Pudgy. Let's just talk about food all the time. When and then it in this position will yes. That was like the first thing he said. Obviously, but he's not just that gargoyles anymore. He's got raging. Who does I think ever since the gun situation? Oh. Yeah, he's been fired up. And Brooklyn is fling in these hubcaps like a goddamn pro. Pro Hubcap slinger. I guess I. Don't know though it did make me giggle that it pretty much worked. As a boomerang. Another one like there's one like it didn't just like smack in the way that the other one day like one kind of like loops around. Like, all right got that boomerang action. Put some English on. It gets that span. Yeah, he should I guess join some ultimate Frisbee teams. You should do. He should take his Harley to his ultimate frisbee tournaments and. What else did he do? This scene is so great and it's getting crazy I. Don't know if you notice the look on his face. He started to look like a PTSD survivor like suddenly doesn't know where he is or again. It's like Bucky when he'd starting to yes, come through. And he's got cybernetic parts dairy. Queen is the winter soldier he was told that glance betrayed the clan, but he's looking at more of his rookery brothers right and I mean I'm asking how they can all be betrayers, but Q. is like more people to kill because you betrayed us. How is that your conclusion here? How Mona brainwash him that quickly so very fast. I know she's good at what she does, but damn instead of being. Oh, that's weird. I thought everyone was dead, and that was the betrayer, but you are my friends, so I should just go ahead and kill all of you. I'm curious if deluxe has any sort of control over him with his cyper parts like the way that he does the full robot robots I'm. GonNa Guess. Yes, so maybe that's part of it. Maybe I mean. We cut two of you of the situation from his cybernetic I. It's not from his i. what we see is Dimona and deluxe watching the fight. Play out on screen somewhere, but it's from D. Cues first person view. Yeah, and they gotta be somewhere really really close by. Maybe they're in like. The maturity van kind of thing standing around. That's what's so weird. Yeah because I do immediately show. Yeah, we cut back outside and then they show up. Like deluxe is in his iron man suit. He's got one of his iron gargoyles, whatever they're called I guess he just has always has a few ready to go because they destroyed to age of Altron. Factory built into his I mean that's his tower is thousands of feet tall. That's true. Space to make robots it's it's in literal outer space. It's so tall. Goliath tries to tell dairy queen that he did not betray their clan. They were all betray. Look, here's some clan here. My friends, your friends. We will all tell you Dimona shows up and all God there's another great deliver here. Goliath is so mad and check this out. You told him these lies I lived for my client. They died for you. Could you hear the rage in his voice like he gets caught up in? His throat was very guttural. This episode has some fantastic line delivery I've really does so Dimona, says Goliath that they each have their own clans now, but she wants the true Gargoyles to survive, so she has to kill. Go is no. You're not letting. Them have their own clan. Has Racist. Undertones the true gargoyles. Very like Harry Potter mud blood kind of situation, not good look. It's more race traitor. Shit, you win against your clan, so you have to die right gross. She's not even saying like Oh. We're going to take them out. She's like D Q. Take out the trash. He is not opposed to it right. It's I don't know man that. I mean I guess it makes sense for this situation. He is confused Dimona kind of imprinted on him, because gave him life. Yeah, it's very confusing. News and Goliath suggests that perhaps instead of continuing this fight. Maybe we should all just chill out basically saying what I've been saying for weeks. There's only a few of US left. Why should we try and kill each other? Which is logical and obviously go fights when he needs to fight, but in his heart of hearts he's a pacifist. His is unnecessary bullshit all the time. Yeah, I never goes a looking for a fight, but he's a protector totally. Well on top of all that, then, of course, a news vans have to show fake news van. And dream boats because they still have their radios on dream boat radios to like. Hey, maybe you should like. Move it along. You don't want to be seen even though you're being seen by everybody. Yeah a little too late, but okay I. Guess You know not everyone. is in time cube right now, so okay Liz. Yes, they don't WanNa. Be All over the news and my first thought was how the fuck are the skies of New York? City, not swarming with police and news helicopters. Yeah, it's nuts. They just get the fuck and fly away uninterrupted. We know there's a Goddamn News helicopter, right? We've seen it. Matt is friends with the Guy Yeah. It's so silly! I kinda wish we had seen more. Matt's reaction to all this. That would have been Nice, but whatever? That's fine, but like it's too late. They're going to be seen regardless, but I guess one of those people has have over the shoulder camcorder right? Yeah I mean there in times cubed us. What people do their Torres Yeah? It is nineteen ninety-five. They probably got the little poem. Tape Yeah Dude. There's no fucking way that there's at least one hundred separate people in this crowd with their little camcorders videotaping all of this well, regardless Goliath is like. Hey, guys. Perhaps we should move it along. We don't WANNA keep destroying deluxe city, and like yeah I. Mean That's a fair point I'm kind of sick of pain to have all this all the time. Let's go elsewhere him Goliath. That's really smart. You very quickly was like yeah, but at to Moan is not like you know. Of course she's not. Here's the thing that frustrates me about this. Yeah, it makes sense that the robots and the cold stone guy has like the cyborg. Thank you has the blasters and they can just push away. Yeah, but Mona. Blast off with them, was one of the Robos holding her well I did see she wants to keep fighting and deluxe puts his hand on her shoulder. Maybe he grabs like. Maybe. I'm sure that totally wouldn't rip her arm. Right out of socket or anything because he's got rockets for. 'cause then you see the other gargoyles doing their Klein up the building thing. Yeah, you know. And I appreciated that they left that part in instead of just assuming that I mean we all know that they can't fly, so they couldn't take off, but they didn't want the audience resume. A goal will help the get back in the early. Motherfucker shot up. And doesn't matter because they all fly away and we cut to another commercial break. Cool, let's do that. Yeah, I don't have a good transition, but we're going to fly away to a commercial. Yeah, WE'RE GONNA. Climb a very tall building in glide on to. Diane. Remind me to get Cherry Pie filling do. A. Come on, man I told you I don't even like David Lynch. Yeah but you've never seen twin peaks. You might really like it. You never know there is absolutely no way I'll get into that show and I'll prove it okay. I'm intrigued how to watch every single episode and Co host a podcast where we discussed all the ways in which I can't stay in the show. Yeah, that seems counterintuitive. I hope it's funny. At least you bet your Cherry Pie will be. Funnier than that I hope shot up. Subscribe to the Black Lodge complaint. Department on Apple PODCASTS, or wherever you get your podcast and check US OUT AT CALAMITY CAST DOT com. We just slid on down to a smooth landing from that commercial break was saying how airplanes are good at slightest. Well. We're not an airplane where gargoyles. You know. Maybe there was a slide on that building. I know what I don't know. Perhaps there was a slide. We're. Tower. And they finally bring Hudson in on the action, except for he is like A. I don't think I'M GONNA. Go because WHO's going to protect the tower Jesus. Christ, Jude. Why do you fucking care about the clock tower right now? WHO's why does this matter? My question protected from whom right they are with the bad guys right now. The only get one villain group a week. Okay, then we shop at a bridge I'm guessing the Brooklyn Bridge. I don't know the names of the other bridges either so let's say Brooklyn Bridge. Let's go. Go somewhere to cause less damage. Oh, how `Bout! We fight on this really important bridge that is necessary for the people of New York to get to place to place remember when they went to statue of Liberty and it was at night, so the statue was closed and there wasn't anyone around. Why don't they just do that again? Because I would have been repeating an era, we've already been in fighting done. Go to central park a big open space. Find there on a suspension for I. Mean I know why because it was a cool setting early logistically for the story? That's a weird place to go. Okay they make it there and they realize it's before. Dimona and deluxe have shown up. Yeah, they don't have time to formulate a plan. No none and now they were there just a little bit early enough to immediately get attacked like they would've been basically flying next to them. That's how quickly Dimona in crew arrived. Did I make it up. That one of them made a comment of like Oh. Why couldn't we've been fashionably late? Brooklyn says yeah. It made me giggle music. It's like drop kicked by a robot. For everything gargoyles has been fucking up the season or being weird or like being inconsistent. They do some amazing aerial battles. Yes, those are always the best, and this one is no exception. This is phenomenal. So Brooklyn goes after Mona looks. Right I mean he's had some punt up rage for episode. Snell lambs are into the bridge and she just goes bouncing like a fucking ball. It's great and Goliath obviously being the captain America of the situation has to go after de Q. I know they're at the top of the the bridge and Oh. There's great exchange here. Can I believe this for you, please? It's it's more captain America Bucky Barnes. Action Rabbit type of action. You're a dirty bird. Hurt you. Removing around a LOT LEXINGTON HE takes out one of the Robo, goals. They always fall for that. Yeah, he's got really good at destroying the Robo Buoy. Yeah, he does the nearly fly into a wall, but then I pull up at the last second trick. Yes, works every time. How has deluxe not fix that flaw? He's seen it happen every time. From Afar deluxe seeing this because he's in his Red Robo, suit. He's a God deal when I forgot again. I keep forgetting to download updates. and Broadway bravely attempts to take on deluxe. Doesn't go well, no. But he tried yeah. I can't remember exactly how it worked out, but he attacked deluxe and ended up in front of Deluxe, and then deluxe fired some lasers, the laser's hit the cables of the bridge support, and they just neatly imperfectly rap Broadway. Center is limbs from his body. As they flailing wildly, they just capture him. Yeah, he's just stuck there and. Liz. Deluxe starts flying directly into Broadway blaster out as though he's going to melt Broadway's face even though he's the one who always like I, want them alive, but I guess if it's between you, dine or them dying. He's going to pick that, but Broadway is already tied up I know. Malone yeah, go after Lexington or something well, it's a shame. He didn't. Because LEX fucking soups down and smashes that stupid red iron ironman suit in the ground, causing a massive explosion in melting deluxe is flesh inside lexus done. It was an epic way to end and in real life. Yes it this way in his helmet POPs off. Yeah, and it just Kinda like roles. He goes ear unscrews it like a cheap wine bottle. They probably was starting to short circuit and he was a fuck. Get it off. Get it off. So he manages to save his face. Goliath and D.C Hugh are continuing their battle when somehow they knock each other over, and they go tumbling into the partially frozen river. We in our second d'arthur. Ones from the Brogel Jesse their their man sink into the battle hymn. All My god Goliath has the most luxurious hair underwater was pretty good underwater hair animation. I wish like fuck you. Alex middle of like a shampoo commercial. So, they are sinking and this is another direct winter soldier moment. Goliath is like sinking. He's starting to pass out and he's reaching out to grab. His Hand God has wants his. Q. Is you think he's GonNa let Goliath drown at that moment. He remembers his sense of duty and honor and. Reaches, down and grabs Steve. Any hauls them to safety throws in back onto the bridge. What are we watching right now now? Gargoyles and I'm okay with it, boy. So how does the winter soldier and? So, we're backup on the bridge. Dimona jobs really wants to kill and deluxe is like hey, I don't kill. You're not the one in charge here. It's obvious she's trying to kill all the remaining gargoyles in Deke was like. Hey, you said we have to kill Goliath, so we can quote survive, but if we kill Goliath and company, there's two of us and Kim Dimona breed with a half guard. Oil Is Dick, robotic or I don't know. Let's the important part I guess kill five. Gargoyles so that, too can live can't make no sense. And he starts realizing the. Then he strapped back into the chair in the mouth guards put in and the Doctor Star electrocuting his brain, so that he forgets, and it starts all over again winter soldier again. Okay A. Go on. It's becoming clearer and clearer to him that Dimona is manipulative. None of this makes any sense. She's like I. Don't give a fuck if it doesn't make sense, I'm doing what I'm doing and she takes a shot at Goliath antique. Jumps in front of the. She's save his best. Eight so good and he gets knocked off the bridge again. We assumed to his death. This is when it turns into civil war. Yes, the tables turn My God I have to assume that not the end of him, but if it is the end of him, what a cool character that we only get twenty minutes of I can't be I. refuse to believe no, it cannot be. We're not there yet, but so glides jumps into the river to do the civil war reversal in the meantime Dimona takes aim at the brogue oils, yeah! Okay, we've said plenty to her plans. Make any sense, but they are by deluxe. And we don't know his plan either, but he says God dammit I want Gargoyles. Alive Dimona. You're not listening. It's been thirteen episodes. We don't know why he wants them alive to put them in. His is upstate. New York retreat XANADU. To hang out and my upstate resort zero do really great is just got skiing I mean they got a bowling alley. Mountain Lake that we can go swimming. God guys. It'd be so much fun. Guys who would be so much fun winter right now, so it's cold, but I swear in the summer. Let's go. It's beautiful. Guys, access lonely. He just wants friends. We will use one OWEN ZANA HIM FUCK! Oh, and he wants his Gargoyles besties. He doesn't have Derek Anymore, does he? We don't know Derek even though we just met Derek. We didn't just meet him. He just met Derek in the previous episode. Not In this one, so we assume that Derek quit that position. After probably. Derek Yeah so thanks deluxe. Yeah and this is win. Bronx in Hudson and dream boat show up to scare off the iron, clan or whatever. The Steel Dragon. And yet again deluxe. She's like God damnit. Dimona were growing and just snatches her and flies off. Sly Away as you mentioned. Goliath returns from his swim empty-handed. We don't see again in this episode, but because we don't see dairy, Queen Die Right I am willing to make the claim that he is just awaiting his return on a short downriver. Yeah, he's got a little campfire. He's fine. He's fine fine I mean. We saw the police shoot a bullet at him and it just stop so demos going I mean we've seen her. Get shot by laser and she fine. She does is she'll disappear for a of sensitive and come back, so I'm confident that Deke will return he better. I hope it's not like indices, three or some shit like that. You Know God. That'd be forever. Who? Well and that's the end of that battle from there. We go back to the clock tower, and Goliath has a line that or less, the thesis statement for the entire show point. Yeah, so let's take a listen. Okay, this island. Manhattan. This is our castle. From this day forward? We protect all who live here. Human, Google Alive After this very solemn moment dream boat, Aska at if he needs anything. And the answer is yes obviously. I need a detective. For what. To detect this Dick. They have sex then so I found it really interesting that he didn't say he wants to protect all of new. York City specifically said Manhattan Yeah. All the rest you boroughs, fuck you. I wonder if he doesn't realize that there are other. The rest of Y'all have your detectives, your police and whatnot. He's fucked. But Manhattan you get us well I mean. A lot of people for five Gargoyles, it is so. Are they doing like a Batman thing now where he is protecting the city and. You think like season two is going to be a lot more of like individual small villains. I guess they're like. Do you think we're GONNA see more Poli serial where they're doing more individual protection versus like these big overarching plotlines. I mean I'm sure it'll be a combination of both because the second and third seasons both have I think twenty episodes. Okay, there's more episode so I'm sure they're going to have maybe a couple like long arcs, but in those longer me like the villain of the week or the week kind of situation because he can't always be Dimona deluxe. Right like that's going to get real boring, yeah! I guess we kind of had villains of the week when we had like the pack and those are all kind of because of de la dogs. Yeah, there's room. There's room for growth in the villain pool. Speaking of villains. Yeah, that's not the end of the episode they. It's not even though it should have been right. A really should have been instead. We're back to that little corner store that we saw at the beginning. We see the bad guy version back in with his gun out and the guy's like really dude again. No no actually and then he dumps out his bag of money. which like what? You like. Six months had do this. Call the cops I'M GONNA. Turn my Salvin. Because monsters told me to Q. Laugh, track and episode silly ending with the clock tower seen would have been a much more. They could have swapped. We literally could have had this scene and then have goliath explaining that he wants to protect Manhattan now I mean this scene is because Goliath decides. Manhattan is castle yeah so he's like I'm protecting castle now. you go say your salary robber guy. Liz, can we finish up the episode? Yeah okay. We're GONNA take one more break. We'll be right back. Wong. After tragedy strikes loose up through a nicer to come back for the funeral like Dean Deep Roots Unites. Any what up man to celebrate the life of a friend tank? Let's see. Until. Some thing happens. Now. They're struggling to survive in a world. They don't understand. War Group, if they failed time and space in an epic podcast from the calamity cast network, I drop it. Off. Subscribe to it, beginners guy to interplanetary destruction. That's what I'm calling my penis as of eight seconds ago. You believe it. We're back just like we said. We have finished higher season like I, said earlier, a real roller coaster peaks and valleys up and down loop de loops. Oh, it's been stomach-turning some points. But. Let's you want to tell me to do like the episode. Yeah, despite some very obvious flaws totally, and I think honestly talking about it made me like it even more like I finished episode, that was really good, but I had an early made the winter soldier connection in my brain yet and things that made it like ten times better, which is interesting, because this obviously cannot way before the movie, and even before the store, really one of the original comic book storyline happened to thousands really. Back I mean obviously you like that. It did even though we started a pull it apart in some places overall very solid, very good like I keep mentioning like line deliveries. There's so much emotion in this episode. It's really great I wish I. Really stepped up. I feel A. I wish everyone could be this because it would really elevate this show. Would you say that this was your favorite episode of the season easily? I would really like to see this writer. Do More Prisoners Hotel, so you kind of answered this question earlier but I got to the end thinking with Gargoyles, parts of dairy queen that was debris, essentially that survived a thousand years. I think so. I understood that I mean I guess that makes sense, but it was laying bare, or did like you said to Dimona collect fat when she came back to the hassle. At the beginning of the show at the beginning of the series when the smashing happened. We just stop hiles of rubble. How would she even know Oh that cold stone, that other friend? That's other friends like? How can you tell I would have been a little grotesque? Port of someone's face in the rebel, but it's not like. They showed us that there were no details. There was just rock, even if she found his space, I would note that's his leg or that's his arm. Because that's the magic part of this. That's why it would be so great if they would just give us. High Swear to God, and all the Gargoyles, if we do not get a flushed out, Dimona story. Like five episodes right like I need to know what the fuck is going on. What is her background at the little tidbits? You gave us in the season. We're bullshit. Agree Bullshit. This ties into my final question for this episode. What the fuck is deluxe that we do with the Gargoyles I mean it never makes sense throughout the entire season. He buys the castle because he's curious about the curse, even though I'm willing to believe that Dimona was already alive, so he already knew that the curse was real, and it was reversible so later on in the season he wants to have gargoyles be his minions, except for clearly none of them are interested in that so then he wants them for. Steven and talk about like wanting to do like sign search on Donald Trump. Maybe kind of but for what purpose and he made. It sound like well as I have known my protection, keep y'all from being directed by. Like he's trying to make it sound like he's really important to their safety and survival which I feel like. They're proving he's not. He's in fact causing more issues not. So I don't know I think he does. Have some summer garden parties with them. I mean that's gotta be. It can't be that throughout thirteen episodes. We couldn't get one solid villain motivation. That's absurd. Let's like with Macbeth. Why was macbeth so insisting on denouncing gargoyles? Why has been the pack was obvious? They're saying they're just crazy. Macbeth sound like he has some weird thing with Dimona and he figured capturing other gargoyles would make Dimona to him. That's one of the suck the moment by if Dimona is pertinent with deluxe. And he went through deluxe to get. It's like. Why didn't he just like? Hey, buddy! Do you know her Dimona at it, can you? Can you hook me up? I'm sure Macbeth, comeback. Comeback at some point and there's too much there that they can't just leave the that be yeah I think that's the downside to the twenty two minute animation is that you get some good tidbits? But because they have to fit in so much for episode, you're never, GonNa get enough the out you know. You Never GonNa get a character study in twenty two minutes should. It got good characters. Well. Liz We did it. We finished the season finish the sees. A! Really really high. No I have very high expectations for season two episode one now and I feel like it's going to be a Michael episode in the sock. Well I mean this is proof of success, so maybe they hired small writers for season two, the hopeful, especially because I gave him a longer season. I think it's I think it's double was. Mike. Wow. Nineties TV now listeners. Like sand through the glass of time, we finished another episode of defenders of the night. Days of. Our lives. Oh, you got it okay. As always thank you to N. 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"They want to take a minute to tell you about a really fun park cast original called Mythical monsters that tells the stories of dragons begins sea serpents giants demons and other terrifying creatures and asks what they represent to mankind. And Right. Now I'm going to play you. An exclusive have clip from our episode on the legend of the Gar Gooey. A French dragon that terrorized the people of a small village on the Seine River. If you want to hear the full first I episode follow mythical monsters in listen free on spotify or anywhere else. You listen to podcasts. I hope you the clip please. Note all miss and legends have variations. And the story. You're about to hear is not intended to be read as definitive interpretation. We've combined several several accounts of the Gargoyles to bring it to the center of this dramatic retelling and to truly emphasize the character and ferocity of of the monster. The morning sun signaled the end for those that were condemned the the jailer lined up the prisoners checking that their chains were secure. Before the bishop arrived it had rained the night before the stone gargoyles protruding from the nearby. Church dripped black water from its gaping mouth a grotesque sight but for these prisoners it was also a symbol of hope of potential salvation. The bishop arrived and went inside the church to pray while the executioner insured that the chopping block was secure. The prisoners is the dark bloodstains left left by the countless men who had lost their heads over that wooden stump. The bishop emerged from the Church Bible in in hand. He moved along the men he offered each of them their last rites and the chance to confess their sins before their time I'm on this. Earth had ended the bishops stopped at the last prisoner. He stood taller than the others and his eyes sparkled. With a strange fire he had not yet been broken by the stagnant purgatory of imprisonment. That that one the bishops said drawing a finger over the man's forehead without a word the guards moved and released the man they gave him fresh clothes. Sturdy boots a bag of supplies and coin and sent him on his way. The released prisoner thanked the bishop for his kindness and swore that he would earn his salvation as the exoneration made his way out of the village he stopped adopt once more to consider the gargoyles mounted over the church. It was because of that gargoyles. And it's kind that he had been offered his freedom he would never forget it. Welcome to mythical monsters. stors a podcast. Original I'm Vanessa Richardson every week. We dive into history's most legendary monsters in telling their stories. We hope to shed light on some truths hidden behind the creation of these beasts where they come from what they symbolize. And how they expose spos- humanity's greatest fears you can find episodes of mythical monsters and all other park has originals for free on spotify or wherever wherever you listen to podcasts to stream mythical monsters for free on spotify just open the APP and type mythical monsters in the search bar at park cast. Were grateful for you our listeners. You will allow us to do what we love. Let us know how we're doing reach out on facebook and Instagram at podcast. I am twitter at podcast network and if you enjoy today's episode. The best way to help is to leave a five star review. Wherever you're listening? It really really does help us. This episode is about the Garg oil today. Most no gargoyles. As the stone sculpted spouse that adorn orne cathedrals and churches largely associated with Gothic Architecture gargoyles divert rainwater away from the roof of a building in order it to prevent water damage while these creatures can be found in Catholic imagery and tableau from the early Middle Ages research shows that there is really one key definitive origin of the monsters legend. The story of Saint Romanos. They stand above perched on their stone. precipices always watching never ever blinking wings stretched jaws gaping hideous and beautiful and eternal. They are the gargoyles a perfect combination of form and function the Gargoyles. Argh oil is more than art there. Gaping mouths are used to divert water away from the building's roof in order to prevent damage the structure a a statue that does not serve this purpose is technically called a grotesque meaning that the bat winged statues shown coming to life in animated films and TV shows are not truly gargoyles at all the practice of adorning the spouts of buildings with animal likenesses dates back to ancient agent Egypt but the dragon like creatures that are commonly used as gargoyles today originated in medieval Europe long before these mythical creatures teachers became a fixture of Gothic architecture. They appeared in the Stone Tab lows of Catholic churches often they were depicted as Satan's demons ends preying on the sinful but somewhere along the way they went from. Being symbols of evil to our ever watchful protectors is to explore the origins of the gargoyles. We must look into the annals of a Catholic legend one that tells of a priest who traveled to a region region of northern France. In order to do battle with a monstrous evil guillaume could already feel the sweat sweat drenching his cotton shirt as he half dragged the oversized bucket toward the riverbank. The town well had run dry weeks weeks ago and there had hardly been a drop of rain desperate. The citizens of Rwanda had turned to boiling river water to drink ink and today it was Yom's turn to fetch the water. He loved the bucket to the Riverside and set about removing his his boots and rolling up the legs of his pants. This was no way to live of that. He was certain. The town was cursed. I and all who lived there would surely be better off by leaving it. But the town council had voted on this exact issue many many many times and the verdict had always been the same they would live or more accurately die with this land that they he called their home damn guillaume cursed as a mosquito burrowed its way into his neck. The drought the heat and the flies made him almost wish for death. Surely Hell couldn't be worse than Ruwan. Sergio M- was so caught up in his own irritation that he didn't see the movement below the surface of the water. What at first seemed like a school rule of Shimmering Fish? was something more something bigger. The creature snout broke the surface of the river blowing hot breath across the shimmering water guillaume glimpsed it only briefly its slender snake. Like body leathery wings and grey scales before it struck Guillaume didn't even have time to scream before the creature buried it's razor sharp fangs into his neck and dragged him below the water's surface. What his wife realized Joe was missing? She went to the river in search of him. All she found was bloodstained mud on the soaked riverbank. The gargle Argo we had claimed yet another victim for months. The region of Rwanda had been victimized by this this sea snake which sprung from the river to pull hapless villagers to their deaths. The Tel elders had been slow in mobilizing. A response is to the creature but with G.. oems death they found the pressure mounting at this point in the story the gargoyles bears characteristics more more commonly associated with the better known mythological creature the dragon during the Dark Ages. The common perception of a dragon wasn't the massive passive winged behemoth that we know today rather a seventh century. European dragon was more akin to a very large four loomed winged named snake which developed from the Greco Roman conception of the creature most dragons conformed to this standard idea and few individual. We'll dragons were noteworthy enough to warrant their own names. But the Gargle we demanded special consideration especially due to its relationship chip with water that night. The villagers gathered before the church in the town. Centre action was a necessity. These men and women would not stand idly by and wait to be picked off one by one by the scaly beast. One man barked. No rain comes and now we cannot draw water from the river another replied we will die of thirst better better to die that way then end up in the monster's belly yelled another. We must be calm. The local bishop caution to the ire hire of all but the people could not be calm. Another spoke send word to Paris. Have King Clovis send send men with swords and nets so they can cut the creature down with what money the bishop retorted. Armies are not cheap and and besides what goodwill armed men be against a great water serpent. We have to do something someone shouted on this. The town agreed. The villagers could not rely on anyone else coming to rescue them so they decided that they would take the fight to the creature themselves. It was decreed that every able bodied man would gather whatever tool or weapon. He could find at dawn they they would march to the river and kill the Gargle we the next morning. All of the men armed themselves and ventured to the riverbank. Ready to take the creature down with pitchfork and hatchets the morning water was cool rule and still the men waited for hours. Finally one of them waited out into the river until the water was at his waist. The other men followed suit until they were all half submerged. Ready to fight the creature on its own turf. The fools us as soon as the first man was pulled below the surface and devoured the others dropped their weapons and fled lead. who were they to think they could take on this creature farmers and merchants all of them no warriors as as the men fled for their lives? The Garg Louis rose out from below the water surface opened its mighty jaws and unleashed a torrent torrent of blistering flames. The men fell one by one as each of them was burned alive. Live satisfied that its enemies were slain. The gargle we retreated back into the water. The women children and elders of the town rushed out toward the riverbank to wear their sons husbands and fathers had fallen. One woman fell to her knees. He's beside her husband's charred corpse. Curse you foul beast. May you be struck down by God himself back to to the pits of hell from whence you came as if in response to the curse. The dragon rose once more from below the surface surface of the river. It opened its mouth as if to blow fire on the remaining villagers the people screamed and covered their heads waiting for the burning embrace of death but the dragon did not breathe. Fire this time instead. It gushed gushed a massive stream of water from its gullet uttering a terrible gurgling sound. As did the creature spread out so much water that had flooded the riverbank washing the morning villagers away with their dead and covering the entire tire town. In a violent tidal wave when the water subsided the creature was gone as was the town down everything. The few survivors owned their homes their valuables their livestock had been washed away in the flood. 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"I WanNa take a minute to tell you about a remarkably fun park cast original called Mythical Monsters it tells the stories of dragons dragons sea serpents giants demons and other terrifying creatures and asks what they represent mankind and right now I'm going to play okay. You an exclusive clip from episode on the legend of the Gargle we a French dragon that terrorized the people of a small village on the Seine River. If you want to hear the full first episode follow Mythical Monsters and listened free on spotify or anywhere else. You listen to podcasts. There hope you enjoy the clip. Please note all myths and legends have variations and the story you're about to hear is not intended to be read as a definitive interpretation. We've combined several accounts of the Gargoyles to bring it to the center of this dramatic retelling and to truly truly emphasize the character and ferocity of the monster. The morning sun signaled sold the end for those that were condemned the jailer lined up the prisoners checking that their chains were secure before the Bishop. This ship arrived. It had rained the night before the stone gargoyles protruding from the nearby. Church dripped black. Water from its Gaping mouth a grotesque sight but for these prisoners it was also a symbol of hope of potential Dole Salvation. The bishop arrived and went inside the church to pray while the executioner insured that the chopping block was secure for the prisoners. I the dark bloodstains left by the countless men who had lost their heads over that wooden stump. The bishop emerged from the Church Bible in hand. He moved along the men he offered each of them their last rites and the chance to confess their sins before their time on this earth head ended the bishops stopped at the last prisoner owner. He stood taller than the others and his eyes sparkled. With a strange fire he had not yet been broken by the stagnant purgatory of imprisonment. That one the bishop said drawing a finger over the man's forehead without a word word. The guards moved and released the man they gave him fresh clothes. Sturdy boots a bag of supplies and coin and sent sent him on his way. The released prisoner thanked the bishop for his kindness and swore that he would earn his salvation. As as the exonerate made his way out of the village he stopped once more to consider the gargoyles mounted over the church. It was because of that Garg Oil. And it's kind that he had been offered his freedom he would never forget it. Welcome to mythical monsters. Apar- cast original. I'm Vanessa Richardson every week. We dive into history's most most legendary monsters in telling their stories. We hope to shed light on some truths hidden behind the creation of these beasts. Where we're they come from what they symbolize? And how they expose humanity's greatest fears you can find episodes of mythical monsters and and all other park has two originals for free on spotify. Or wherever. You listen to podcasts to stream mythical monsters for free on spotify just open the APP APP and type mythical monsters in the search bar at par cast. We're grateful for you our listeners. You allow us to do what we love. Let us know how we're doing reach out on facebook and Instagram at podcast and twitter at podcast network. And if you enjoyed today's episode the best way you to help us to leave a five star review wherever you're listening. It really does help us. This episode is about the Gargoyles today. Most I know Gargoyles as the stone. Sculpted spouse that adorned cathedrals churches largely associated with Gothic Architecture gargoyles else divert rainwater away from the roof of a building in order to prevent water damage while these creatures can be found in Catholic imagery and tab blows from the early Middle Ages research shows that there is really one key definitive origin of the monsters legend. The story of of Saint Romanos they stand above perched on there stone. precipices always watching never blinking wings stretched jaws gaping hideous. CBS and beautiful and eternal. They are the gargoyles a perfect perfect combination of form and function. The Garg Oil is more than art there. Gaping mouths are used to divert water away from the building's building's roof in order to prevent damage the structure a statue that does not serve this purpose is technically called a grotesque meaning that the bat-winged statues shown coming to life in animated films and TV shows are not truly gargoyles at all the practice of adorning the spouts bouts of buildings with animal likenesses dates back to ancient Egypt but the dragon like creatures that are commonly used as gargoyles today originated originated in Medieval Europe. Long before these mythical creatures became a fixture of Gothic architecture they appeared in the Stone Tableau of Catholic churches often. They were depicted as Satan's demons preying on the sinful but somewhere along the way they went from being symbols ambles of evil to our ever watchful protectors to explore the origins of the Garg Oil. We must look into the annals of Catholic Doc Legend one that tells of a priest who traveled to a region of northern France. In order to do battle with a monstrous evil guillaume could already feel the sweat drenching his cotton shirt as he half dragged the oversized bucket toward the riverbank. The town well had run dry weeks ago. And there's hardly been a drop of rain desperate. The citizens of Rwanda had turned to boiling river water to drink and today it was guillaume. Turn to fetch the water. He Lugged Doug the bucket to the Riverside and set about removing his boots and rolling up the legs of his pants. This was no way to live live of that. He was certain. The town was cursed. And all who lived there would surely be better off by leaving it but the town council had voted on this exact issue many many times and the verdict had always been the same they would live or more accurately die with this land that they called their home. Damn Guillaume cursed as a mosquito oh burrowed its way into his neck. The drought the heat and the flies made him almost wish for death surely Hell L. couldn't be worse than Ruwan Guillaume was so caught up in his own irritation that he didn't see the movement below the surface of the water. What at first seemed like a school of Shimmering Fish? was something more something bigger. The creature snout broke the surface of the river blowing hot breath across the Shimmering Water Gilman glimpsed it only briefly fli its slender snake like body leathery wings and grey scales before it struck Guillaume. Didn't didn't even have time to scream before the creature buried its razor sharp fangs into his neck and dragged him below the water surface surface. What his wife realized Guillaume was missing? She went to the river in search of him. All she found was bloodstained unstained mud on the soaked riverbank. The gargle we had claimed yet another victim for months the region of Ron had been victimized by this sea snake which sprung from the river to pull hapless villagers to their deaths. The town elders had been slow in mobilizing a response to the creature but with death they found the pressure mounting at this point in the story the gargoyles bears characteristics more commonly associated with a better known mythological creature the dragon during the Dark Ages. The common perception of dragon wasn't the massive winged behemoth that we know today rather a seventh century. European dragon was was more akin to a very large four loomed winged snake which developed from the Greco Roman conception of the creature most dragons conformed to this standard idea and few individual dragons. Were note worthy enough to warrant their own names but the Gargle we demanded ended special consideration especially due to its relationship with water that night. The villagers gathered before the church in the town. Centre action was a necessity. These men and women would not stand idly by and wait to be picked off one by one by this scaly beast. One man barked. No rain comes and now we cannot draw water from the river. Another replied ride. We will die of thirst better to die that way than end up in the monster's belly yelled another we must be recom- the local bishop caution to the ire of all but the people could not become another spoke. Doc Send Word to Paris have King Clovis send men with swords and nets so they can cut the creature down with what money the bishop retorted. Armies are not cheap and besides what goodwill armed men be against a great water serpent. We have to do something someone shouted on this. The town agreed. The villagers could not rely on anyone else coming to rescue them so they decided that they would take the fight to the creature themselves. It was decreed that every able bodied man would gather whatever whatever tool or weapon he could find at dawn day would march to the river and kill the Gar gooey. The next morning all of the men armed themselves and ventured to the riverbank. Ready to take the creature down with pitchfork and hatchets the morning water was cool and still the men waited for hours. Finally one of them waited out into into the river until the water was at his waist. The other men followed suit until they were all half submerged. Ready to fight the a creature on its own turf. The fools as soon as the first man was pulled below the surface and endeavoured the others dropped their weapons and fled. who were they to think they could take on this creature farmers and merchants all all of them no warriors as the men fled for their lives? The gargle we rose out from below the water surface opened its mighty jaws and unleashed a torrent of blistering flames. The men fell one. MM by one. As each of them was burned alive satisfied that its enemies were slain. The gargle we retreated back into the water. The women children and elders of the town rushed out toward the riverbank to wear their sons husbands and a father's had fallen one woman fell to her knees beside her husband's charred corpse. Curse you foul beast May Ayoubi struck down by God himself back to the pits of hell from whence you came as if in response to the curse I. The dragon rose once more from below the surface of the river. It opened its mouth as if to blow fire on the remaining villagers. Here's the people screamed and covered their heads waiting for the burning embrace of death but the dragon did did not breathe fire this time instead. It gushed a massive stream of water from its gullet uttering a terrible gurgling link. Sound as it did. The creature sprayed out so much water that had flooded the riverbank washing the morning. Villagers Ledgers Away with their dead and covering the entire town. In a violent tidal wave when the water subsided D- The creature was gone. As was the town everything. The few survivors owned their homes. Their valuables their livestock had been washed away in the flood. All they could do was pray defined out what happens next follow mythical monsters and listened free on spotify. Hi or anywhere else. You listen to podcasts.

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