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The Real Test Question: Should Colleges Be Allowed to Require Standardized Test Scores for Admission?

Fireflies

32:01 min | 4 months ago

The Real Test Question: Should Colleges Be Allowed to Require Standardized Test Scores for Admission?

"From. Kit Finnerty. This is firefly's the original kid's debate show. Noble your host for today's episode on the future of standardized testing in the United States. Should colleges be forced to prohibit senators, testing scores from their admissions process, and what about state testing in elementary and junior high schools. Is there a better way? All this end more will be covered in today's episode. Welcome to the show. Some not sure if you guys heard the recent news, but all eight Ivy League schools, you sees Caltech Stanford Mit and many top colleges and many colleges in general and the United States aren't not requiring standardized test scores for the class of twenty, twenty one or incoming seniors in high school. According to. CNBC. In addition the University of California College System, which enrolls some two hundred, eighty, thousand college students. Each year plans to phase out the and sat in oncoming years, and this is not a small decision of course I mean. The University of California system is one of the largest college systems in the United States and their decision holds a lot of weight in determining what other schools will do in the future. So what is standardized testing? Well, senators tests are scientifically. And machine graded instruments administered to students and adults under controlled conditions to assess capabilities, including knowledge cognitive skills and abilities, and aptitude according to the US Department of Education. Essentially, it's supposed to put everyone on equal playing field and compare the relative performance of individual students or groups of students. So he may be asking what are some examples of standardized testing? While in high school, there is the sat and act which I mentioned before and two tests are run by College Board a nonprofit organization that is not related to the government. Today roughly two million students in the US take the sat each year according to CNBC. But there isn't just the sat and act and tests run by College Board. There is also state testing in every state and I'm sure many of you guys have experienced this basically where the national government gives jurisdiction to each state to manage their own state testing. So for example, in California, there's the s back and other states be other standardized tests and these are usually administered to elementary schoolers, junior high schoolers, and usually one or two of those tests in high school and those run by the government, not by College Board or by another private organization. There is also graduate school testing like the bar exam which students take or the G. Mats which business students take, but we won't get too much into those because today we going to be mostly focusing on state testing and Senate is testing in college admissions. So as I said, before most standardized tests were not administered this year in many systems, and this is basically causing everyone to rethink Senate is testing as a whole and find new ways to improve it. The four we begin this episode on standardized testing I actually have a few important announcements to make. So after this episode, we will be featuring a guest host on firefly's because I'll be moving into more of a management role in the company that manages this podcast kid. Finnity. I will still be involved with firefly's production and I truly enjoyed my time as a toast. I'm sure you guys will have a great time with the new host, the future debaters and I wish you all the best. You can sign up to be a host or debater on kid finnity dot com slash firefly's, and the link will be posted in the podcast description as always I encourage you to subscribe and share the podcast with your friends. Now, let's get into the debate. Joining me now are grace margin seventeen and Savannah Keller fifteen. Hey, guys doing. Good. How are you? Doing pretty well, well, no. No today, we're going to debate the future of standardized testing in this is something that hasn't been talked about a lot. Recently I'm with, you know even state testing being up not postponed but actually taken out of this year and you know the sat's Act's a lot of colleges are suspending the requirements for the incoming seniors actually this this year so. You guys have taken many standardized tests lifetime, and today we're GonNa go talk about some of the experiences and you guys views on in general. So, the first question I have for you guys is. Should the United States prohibit colleges from requiring Senate is test scores for admission, and this can really be simplified into should colleges be allowed to require a standardized test scores for admission grace I'll give you this question I. All right. Awesome. So when we're looking at standardized tests and why in the first place call is decide to require them it often comes from the idea. It's a test under pressure before all they perform under pressure and how they can understand an overall concept of different ideas and different subjects and different crumbs. But, at the end of the day, what really ends up happening is it puts certain students at a much lower disadvantage especially those of low income communities. Especially Sat's and AP tests in general, which are a form of standardized tests that are classified us. Really. Defeat the point of learning knowledge within schools and end up just teaching to a test and Focusing, on those curriculums rather than understanding different things and understanding new knowledge having basically for inquiry in the classroom, and then lastly, of course, senator has played law of stress on students as it is a one time situation which they're being tested on their bass knowledge of whether it's a year round courses, ABC's or essentially. Any PREPA they've done for sat's in or act's in English math and science. So grace at this point is saying that college should not be able to require standardized test scores for admission because they cost test Zaidi disadvantage lower income students and. Put too much attention on the test itself rather than traditional school learning or basically promote quote teaching to the test. For Act's. And SAT's students that have more money. If have more money might be able to take that test more times and they might be able to pay for test prep, which could allow them to perform better in the tests, and then you know exactly what the stress that's always comes up in any sort of test, right? So You have anything to a response agrees yeah. So in terms of the tests that you brought up and the test questions as soon as you register for an AP test board automatically gives you free test prep questions that you can go in answer whenever you have free time and I'm aware that not everybody has Internet connection at home of course. But if they're going to take the test, they must have Internet connection somewhere. So whether that be at school, they could take lunchtime and gone to the library or ask permission to use the computers during lunch or recess or whatever teachers clearly need to do better at preparing everybody for their tests. You're saying that there. There is a way for these students still to perform. Well, even if you know they're working a job or they have after school activities or they might not have that'd be harder for them to have access to Internet connection you're saying this. But it is definitely harder for them to succeed in these tests and then Savannah, you also wanted to bring in something about how if standardized test scores or Act's act. Act's sat's are taken out of the requirements. There might be an increased impact on GPA's right and increased weight on TV. So, if colleges were to completely. Take out the standardized tests in admissions. The GPA would be weighed much much heavier and it would put much more stress on students. Throughout the year. Yeah I actually have data on that. So a study using data from twelve thousand, five, hundred students from the education wanted to study of two thousand two researchers concluded that math teachers had a less positive perception of the academic abilities of Latino and black students compared to white students causing a point to reduction in GPA so. GPA also could be skewed. I mean, it's not just you know sat's and act's have a disproportional effect on minorities and disadvantaged communities, I mean. It's also GPA's COBB. Some sort of I don't think it's as pronounced. As standardized is testing, but there definitely is something to consider where GPA's. A accurate depiction of what the soon as knowledge Anything to respond so. The day that you stated about how especially people color within school districts may have a lower. GPA. A quarter reduction actually is extremely significant when it comes down to GPA's that inseparable apart like a four point four. It waited so much heavier than a four points you in. It's seen as such a huge difference. So was a really difficult situation to examine because. At the end the day, the biases of teachers that may be inherent bias within one smaller system. Same time when you have the sat and act system that as a whole that entire system is working against people of lower socioeconomic classes or magnified is everything definitely. I. Think when you're looking at the situation, GPA, this is a clear issue is clear problem that is present within the school district however. When you're looking at the entire system of the SAT act and pretty much any college board run course as a whole that's much more impacted system putting pressure on these students and causing less as whole. So you saying he's just one system that might have that problem in terms of GPA's but you know, GPA's might not necessarily just be skewed a because of teachers bias also might be skewed because some teachers just tend to give more points for certain assignment. You know that happens I'm sure you guys have had all at all had experiences with that where this teachers you know of this quote super easy and they give they'll give good grades right and so that I believe is something that goes. On in a nationwide you know and I also wanted to bring up something that you know standardized test scores are part of entire. They call it holistic process basically colleges to account plethora different factors you know in many call do take into account your socioeconomic status in that process they taking you know GPA's extracurriculars and all those things in sat's act's AP tests are just a certain portion of the whole entire process right Gracie you have anything down on. Sure. So especially, this year, this is an. This coming enrollment years going to be really interesting to see how. Standardized tests, impacts, admissions, because this is the first year that a very wide group of schools, the entire UC system, and also a lot of private colleges throughout the country are running on a optional Sat Act Semnan Optional Center next or system. So we don't really have the information as of right now but when a single test is tied to way down lower, someone's entire holistic average, I feel like this. Can become a little bit broader an issue because when you're writing about a college application if you have a smaller question that was about a struggle within your own certain school, you can talk about your struggle with a certain teacher and trying to find balance within the classroom because that's a reasonable explanation and they also have a place on the UC apps where you can write down any comments that you want to add about a certain grade certain class that you took or certain you didn't take. and. Then when you looking at the sat and Act Oh, however because everyone's taking it the exact same way and it's essentially a one test compared to every individual classroom in school environments different. You can't quite make the excuse that I've several about test anxiety or I was are disadvantaged because college or colleges as a whole or when look at everyone else has it exacts in disadvantage or everyone else within certain group has that same disadvantage. Basically what you're saying is GPA's easier chance to talk about those disadvantages whereas. Most colleges don't give you an area to talk about your disadvantage in the in the sat act. Colleges understand that every school's different every school teaches differently don't understand if there's a certain variation within a certain course at a school compared to another school. For example, one math classes in school might be wait a lot heavier than a math class at school and it's not a matter of how will it was just perform no matter of the teacher grading them however when the sat and act are all the same versions, the tests being administered it's a little bit different because it's not necessarily leniency it's how you perform to the test. Bring up apart and it's like you know teaching to the test as well. Right? But. At least be given a choice to include those is testing if it's Going to benefit the students they accept. So you know if you have like an MIT right and they're based on math and science shouldn't they at least be given the choice to? Administer to acquire like, for example, act scores. Which take into account which have a math and science section savannah you wanted to talk a little bit about that, right? So. I definitely think that though scored the colleges should be able to pick. If they want to require them. For example, a school such as juilliard, which is a performing arts school would have less used for academic information because most of their majors are of the arts whereas schools such as Harvard Oxford Have High Akademik Standards and discoursed need to be taken into consideration. So you know you're saying that some schools you know like an art school might not need to have ended is a test or they might have a different sort of await standardized tests. So maybe they won't require the standardized tests. Right. But some schools you know like Harvard or you know cal tech mit might need these scores so. We, talked about how they're definitely they're definitely is a problem with the standardized test scores in grace. You believe that standardized test scores because of those problems like this eventing students than the. Generated from the test, you believe that over all these colleges should not be lots of car the standardized tests at all for admission. And then and then Savannah daily should be given a choice in terms of you know like MIT or. They because they're more related to these tests that the students should be better prepared for these tests that they have a chance, and then you also mentioned how GPA's might possibly be skewed by by bias, and then also like you know teachers themselves, right we know that the sat's Senate testing aren't perfect right so you have a link any suggestions for how it could be improved or how we could sort of transition your grace. So something I also wanted to quickly bring up and touch on the immersed into a transitioning point for this is there are sat subject tests which cost less than the actual sat and our votes toward a certain group of students. Who wants to show their academic ability on those tests? So for example, if you have a student who is going to mit or Caltech or want to apply there, they can take a certain science subject test in mathematics, subject tests, and then from there, it showing their success in that area with an is putting the my disadvantage perhaps if they perform poorly on an English portion of the act or sat the act since the act has a science in mathematics portion. So overall if the generalized Senator Test was eliminated, you can fall back on subject tests or you can fall back on other sort of primary knowledge tests to show that they do have the. Same sort of. Understanding of the concepts while focusing more on what they are in tune to economically It's definitely a really good idea you know sat subject tests are technically still standardized tests, but they might not have make students go through the whole process of an sat act. It's just subject test which is going to be a lot shorter as well, and then there's also that the possibility where schools can make their own tests. So depending on what those schools are looking for, they could create their own tests than students you know depending on what school they want to apply for might not even have to take the sat act. Savannah do you have anything else to? Yeah. So in my opinion I, feel like it would be a fantastic idea to keep the scores in admissions but allow the colleges to be able to look at the actual test itself. For example, MIT as you said, mass in science are what they're about. But the test has maths science and so if they didn't do as well on English questions as they did on the math and science questions I, feel like the college should be able to look at that and say, Oh, they have what we're looking for instead of looking at the score as a whole, it should be able to look at the actual test. So. Yeah. That kind of is similar to a Greece's talking about what the subject is. Right. So Savannah in your case while you're suggesting is that everyone still going to be required to take the tests I feel like as I said earlier depending on what school it is, what the intended majors are. The cause should be able to. But I feel like everybody should take the test i. do also feel like the students should have a choice whether or not to submit their test scores into admissions. For example, if you're going to juilliard but you wanted to submit your high test score. It could just be used as an advantage. But not required part of your mission. What she's saying is looking at the question of the first one being should the US prohibit colleges from requiring standardized test versus requiring I think what she's trying to take on here's they shouldn't prohibit because the opportunity to take the test is greater than getting rid of it as a whole and still provide some students with vintages. Exactly. Walking a fine line however, because if you require in some ways I think it'll be also a very interesting development. Watch is application results are going to come out at the end of this next application term. Yeah. For because, there are going to be students this year who are going to optionally submit their sat or act scores may have strong sat scores or scores, and it comes down to the matter of there was no march sat. So the only students who could have taken this who are incoming seniors aren't they took the October November December sat. So these students more likely are students that. have. More of an opportunity to take tests multiple times. As, you wouldn't just take the test and be unprepared for the test often with the struggled walking into junior year with multiple AP classes and long summer projects where you might not have time necessarily to be indefinitely studying the sat or a C. T. when you're going in and taking that test as a practice in November or December that. Chose that these students took it because they're at a financial advantage to be able to take the test multiple times. So the man who were not able to take the test before to take it as a practice and we're planning on taking their one and only sat in March May. June etc This is putting those at a disadvantage because they don't have the score to provide us a boost their application as some other students may have, and that goes back to the of its disadvantage in lower socioeconomic students. The point you're making there with Even though that it could be useful at some times. It's still it's still leaves that lingering point there it is going to disadvantage these socioeconomic disadvantaged communities and so generalized testing isn't just you know sat's Act's AP test all these these tests for college write it also is they testing. You know you have these elementary schools elementary junior high, and then they're also in many states to actually is one year where high school students do have to actually participate in the state testing, which is different from those ricard for called admissions. So how is the debate different with state testing as opposed to act's and sat's and college required standardized test scores Savant. What's your take on? I feel like primary and secondary state testing or completely different tests than this enterprise test called US states has stained gauges, one's level of knowledge on state standards which are drastically different from those of undergraduate schools. You Know College admissions touch on Austin material that you were to learn from middle school until high school in in addition state testing is compared to the state standards for respective grades, which is much lower than not of universities and colleges. So you're saying you know it's it's more related to the government, right? You know of course, they have it's two completely different standards. There's really no comparison between them. Okay, they still are technically standardized tests. So in that regard is a comparison and especially during this time with both of these standardized test scores both in state testing and in college admission they're both being taken out or at least not being required in this case. So say testing as you're talking about is more related to the government and to stay itself rather whether you know college admission testing and standardized testing is more related to the private colleges race. He has something to say. So when working at the state, Senate is test themselves. There's a lot of political history behind their that overall still disadvantages a lot. Of Communities during Obama's presidency, his secretary of education believed that there needs to be a little more emphasis on standardized tests home, and because of that, they enlisted the es a which essentially mandated that the government would take control of standardized tests and mandate all states in order to help provide relief in the schools that have lower test averages in order to help bring them up to a higher national level of an giving equity situation. However, in two thousand seventeen, this was rolled back by the current administration, and now every state is in charge of their own jurisdiction. So tests in California, for example, having much different president than. Than, for example, maybe New York. Even Texas Arizona. Are Certain system that we have now is depending on how well the school does on state tests they get funding to the schools themselves but help still does have a law were performed so low that those schools can actually be shut down and those students can be or to another school, another school or another school district while there's is being mended to fix the education. And this puts students at a huge disadvantage based on the scores from the test itself swallows may have a sense of helping students be placed within colleges or have advantage in that sense. Overall, this does come back to the point of the entire standardized testing system. No matter where you look at it has inherent class biased rude within it. Okay. So you're bringing it back to the the issue with some areas you know might not have the same the learning capabilities as others, and this could completely take away funding from the area and you don't think that that's something that is right. You know. Yeah because especially, if those students get displaced from their area that could cause some taps, go larger distances to different schools, which overall which but a hindrance, especially lower socioeconomic areas and also increase class tensions within the classroom itself. Can overall perform a lower benefit a lesser benefited students because what is happening as if they have to travel farther for school disk and put them in a huge disadvantage to their own families but also to their education as a whole when their school in their school environments. So big difference about state testing and college admission. Senate's scores is that state testing is more evaluating the whole group I would say whereas always standardized testing isn't waiting independent each individual person. So in terms of that, there actually are a few more alternatives to state testing rather than college admission testing. So for example, I have an NPR article here and they mentioned that there are four possible alternatives for these state tests and one of. Them is sample sizing, which is basically taking a a certain portion of the school rather than having everyone do the test and get stressed out by the test, and then there's also they also mentioned that you have multiple measures. You know not necessarily standardized tests, but they have like emotional or social surveys and the game based questions and I'm just wondering what do you guys think about those possible solutions and India's have any other ideas. Savannah. I think that is a pretty good alternative if. Everybody decided that standardized tests were going to be taken out which I still don't feel like it's a very good idea. But I do feel like be could alternatives especially with the emotional part because if we're in a bad. In the students don't feel safe at school or anything like that, that also can greatly affect test scores and everything like that. So I. think that's a really good alternative only taking a few of the best scoring students that way can prevent what gray said with defunding all of that kind of stuff. And grace you have anything else to add. So with the smaller sample size as a whole, what this also helps you is relieve a little bit of the test apathy within the school itself. So also with different multiple measures of testing itself and taking the test based questions self away from state testing where you are learning to the test, and it's a or done tests on knowledge if you are able to incorporate more logic and were. Reasoning those tests where people can show off their different academic strengths and different learning strings. That's also where the tests will show more benefited the students because not everyone learns the same way and not one applies their skills. The same way some people think logically, some people think better straightforward. So as a whole, you can still see the understanding of suits come through while other students aren't disadvantage for not being able to understand a certain way. So you're saying, you know that some kids have the chance to demonstrate their abilities but that shouldn't disadvantage. The other kids don't perform as well on those are you know don't don't take away funding from those students schools, right so something else that I was thinking of when you're talking about that is that maybe these test because a big problem with these state tests is kids get really stressed out by this. And they feel out pressure and and I'm one of those kids whenever there's a state test I was auto. It'd be worried about it the night before and something else that is interesting. Is that maybe that maybe people or started the government could collect this data over time maybe not necessarily single test maybe it could be just like you know looking at you know some of your grades looking at some of. Other indicators like maybe something and it's maybe something more fun to write. So I was talking about a game based measure right? So maybe you don't have a test, but you have no logic game which and people don't administer as a test. It's more of like people maybe they don't call it test. So kids don't feel nervous or anything. It's kind of like a stealth stealth. You would call it guess have anything else did I do? Something I actually discovered last year when I transferred to homeschooling. Skull home schoolers do not need take state tests. We do need to register for tests and be there but honestly a lot of people I know just click random answers intimate the test because the the the state testing is completely political and it has everything to do with funding in my opinion nothing to do with kids knowledge. The definitely the testing of is big problem. There are some kids that just you know like you say just click through of answers bastion determine whether the school funding or not right exactly though you definitely also big problem with these state tests are I. Think our time is up. So thank you so much for coming on I won't repeat. Thank you. So let. For having us. What do you guys think of the debate? In general grace believes the US should prohibit all colleges from occurring standardized test scores because they disadvantage, Laura students promote teaching to the test and cause large amounts of stress. Well, Savannah believes that colleges should have the option to require a standardized test scores because they provide an academic factor in addition to GPA's and some schools would benefit from the extra academic information. As part of a possible solution, Greece also mentioned placing more emphasis on the sat subject tests. In addition, they both pointed out problems with state testing including unjustified school defunding and test apathy, and we explore possible solutions for state testing, including logic, based games, and simple sizing. Thanks so much to the debaters. Martin. Founder podcast Benjamin Wong to the audio editing for this episode, Talia? Rahm. I encourage you to check out these other podcasts get CEO which is hosted by Benjamin? Wall. In addition, it would really help us if he gave us a review on Apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcast as possible, and it would also help if you guys filled out a survey that will be posted soon on the. Website. Thanks. 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Ep. 66: Electrifying Education with Mario Miller and Javier Lopez

Chicago Stories

27:27 min | 2 years ago

Ep. 66: Electrifying Education with Mario Miller and Javier Lopez

"You're listening to Chicago stories. A podcast from city hall featuring the stories of everyday Chicagoans as told to mayor Rahm Emanuel. This is mayor Rahm Emanuel in Chicago stories. We're joined by Mario Miller who's intellectual Illinois, international brotherhood of electrical workers and teaches at Dunbar high school. Our new trade school and Javier Lopez who's one of his first graduate is now, is it Prentice at the IB w or trainy? He's not training program, and this is our first introduction of a new trades back into the Chicago public high school. So Morrow tummy little, you start at McCormick place, and if I have you went from television. Yes. To electricity. Yes. To now teacher? Yes. So is it fair also to say then to mentor? Absolutely. Speaking of this here, four. Four careers at one lifespan, right. Still working on. Yeah. So tell me what it was like to go from TV to Trish in election to teacher? Well to go from television production wise. Construction was the same. There's a, there's a time line is expectation, and you just have to meet that deadline. So it was easy to kind of fall into the fold of how construction works. The challenge was just actually learning the trade and doing the work because when you sit behind a desk in front of a computer, you don't, you're not picking stuff up and moving stuff around. So it was actually, it was different, but I'm glad you like teacher. Oh, absolutely. Absolutely. So we're story. There was a question of where story. Story. We're the center of where. I was listening to the radio one day on my way to work to O'Hare. And there was a question if you could go back and do anything when teach would you do it and I actually called in got through us it. Yeah, we'll go back and teach our teach, whatever they wanted me to teach it didn't matter. And so when I got off the phone of the line, I just never thought that I would actually be teaching CPS at any time. So it's interesting things happen. What what made you decide to get into? How'd you learn about Dunbar? I'm really proud of this personally. Because I don't know about thirty years ago traits were taken basically out of the school now everybody's clamoring to get him back. How'd you hear about Dunbar and why? Electric versus carpentry. Did you explore any of the other trades and what do you think about for your career will in five words or less? No. Well, you know, to add on to another weird, Chicago Greece story. I decided to go, you know, join Chicago bills. On my sophomore year in, you know, get into my junior year because I saw that there was offering, hey, you wanna get your school time couldn't have, you know, go traveling. All, really see Chicago, why go into a trace and plus girl. So. All motivation comes. That's right. So Vichy wanted you to go into the traits, your girlfriend? Not the traders go to Dunbar period and just come come the Dumbarton at this program. We can spend more time, and that was sure whatever. I don't like high school anyway. And so were you at high school a CVS or CVC now? And so once I got in, you know, it was kinda weird. I, I didn't see people I knew around, you know, for my school because I was the only person from my school, you know who who does does it. And so you know, it took some time getting used to. But then once I started getting into the trays like my first trade the because it's a six week rotation for my first year and has a junior was welding, and I was like, oh, wow, this is this is what trays like, oh, it's fun. Man. I'm having fun Melton metal together, you know, building things. And then I was looking back in my mind on my, oh, man. Let's see what that's about. That's what I really want the, you know, work my way up in did carpentry wasn't really. Fun of carpentry just splinters didn't like them. Then the same problem. That's exactly the same excuse. I give my wife splinters Honey. I would love to do it, but I can't. Did h. back which is a heating, air conditioning, cooling, ventilating, and so you really got. I mean, I don't mean to put words, but you got the salad bar many you went through all the trade. Some exposure to then find some an interest, sir. If this program didn't exist, would you think you've had fought found the traits or this you really need this type of exposure to know that this is whether it's electric or not? Trae a vocation in the trades was an offering. An honesty? Yeah. I think that I would have still went to the trades because as a kid always had an idea of being a like an electrician, but I didn't know what it was called because I was always fascinated with electricity owns always fascinated with. You're the guy trying to burn the house down the switch up and down back back. But you this made it easier? Yes, it made it a lot easier, and it was an amazing still is an amazing experience to this day. So what happens an how dare you become your now? I know not an apprentice, but you become a, he's a training training for people listening. What's the time line for training to apprentice journeyman? What is that locally? So well, if I could, let's go back to Commodore. We're going to you. Well. Bills program as a two year program, which have you had an opportunity to experience in the second year? Electrical shop that is the forty weeks of electricity because this is the decision I've made. I want to be an electrician. And so upon completion of that, we have a registration specifically for the kids that participate in Chicago bills. And after that, they get opportunity by barring that they qualify driver's license, which took forever to get, but got to be. So you get to the worksite hover? Yes. Yes. And he might have to drive a company vehicle means they move stuff around and then so now he's been, you've been training for about three months and months. And so in after six months after starting, he has an opportunity to take the test. So we require that they do not more than a year, but at the six month point, they, they feel like they want to be an apprentice. They they're more than welcome to take the test and the Prentice. If you get the test you're in in the Prentiss is how long five year I'll the apprenticeship this five years, ideally projects while you're doing that? Yes. So the first you go to school for first year, eleven weeks. You go out into the field. Second year, you go for nine weeks back onto the field source. A lot of is hands on the entire time and you just have your classwork. So say how you takes the test. Say he doesn't do so. Well, he still has a little time to take it. Again, people do the law degree like the g. mats and all the other this right now. That's right. We'll think ACT. Public candidate, somebody's raising their hand, people take tests multiple times. So you look into career in it? Yes, sir. You still got the girlfriend? No, no. Let's see the trade, but you lost the girlfriend of the trade. Okay. Well, it's okay. You got it hap-. Yeah. How many fellow students now are in going kind of where you are in the Bill program or the partnership area? Well, if I may answer that they're fourteen kids that came out of the decided they wanted to be electricity. No, that was a huge jump from one of the first year we did it. It was, you know it was trying to get people interested in, you know, six per year. But the second year that's when it really, you know, we got a good bunch. They vote show here, I think. So anybody else in your peers. Yes, they're, they've entered other fields, many carpentry on electrician. The big one. Yeah. Of course, I mean. Big dog on the block. Like that glass building next door. Don't Bari Laurie? Oh, man, this is beautiful. It is beautiful training facility down near McCormick place, Tom, trying to give people it's right there on the edge LeBron's Ville McCormick place so and exciting for your family excited for you. Their belated they're happy there. They know they're happy that I'm making a difference in Chicago, and you know, just I know they wish me, you know, goes to, you know, take the college route, but I, I know smoked in my say, hey, mom, I'm helping make make Chicago look beautiful because we have a beautiful city. If you've ever been out there on the lake by navy, pier and just see, Chicago is beautiful, and I'm making it as beautiful as I can make. She your mom kill. If you were to say today and you watch them, what's going, what do you want to work on? What do you want? Is there something you like, hey, I want to look back and say, that's my deal. I help build that. It'd be honest, I really would like to get my hands on the Brock Obama library. I would love to have a hand in the knows him. No. You know what that is so cool. I want the whole idea for the person's libraries. Obviously. A documents presidency, but right. No one of the things he's working on his to make sure I don't want to speak for him, but I did that for two years of my life. So I'm gonna do it again for about two minutes just to make sure that young men like you have a chance to put your thumbprint look back until your kids. One day I built that and he's got an I put. I have all the confidence we're going to get through the court, so you can exactly do exactly what you're wanna do be cool. Yeah, also also did. I don't know if you heard, but the Paul university, I've done all the solar panels at university. Yeah. So all hooked up at the policy. You know, who's that your first project out on the field panels at depaul? That was my first major project. The my first project was just smaller. Just clean up laborers, work, you know, strange things up. We all did it that's called like in the in the office that's called xeroxing. In the month after that, I went to the Paul university and it's just it's been amazing accomplishment. How did you feel? I mean, why did you? I'm trying to get it. Why do you think it was so awesome just to see, you know, it's kind of weird. I don't. I do this. I like it not because of the recognition as because I won't get the recognition it just to see somebody smile. Hey, I made that guy happy. I made them, you know, he helped him with his work and I don't need any recognition that's makes me happy. You know, that's cool. And he'll be able to go back until stories. I built that. I'd do it all the time. Still Marlin me. I'm a press a little on the issue having. I think the building traits are great. And I know right now we have a situation of, we have unprecedent boom in Chicago. Yes, all the building trades. There's not a single man or woman on the bench. And in fact, if I'm not mistaken, a lot of them are now pulling people out of retirement because they don't have enough folk, and that's exactly why this program is affected because. Some of the stories that you hear or that I had opportunity here being being in the classroom with the kids is that they didn't know what a tradesman was. So it gives me opportunity to tell my story talk about all of the different buildings that I've worked in and worked on actually shared a story when I first got here about McCormick place west well, I was year out of my time as a journeyman and I made GIF transforming for McCormick place west expansion. So whenever you're over in that building and in the wintertime and it's warm, let's because of me see, he'll have stories like you feel that accomplishment. Oh, absolutely. That same sense. Like you're going around that I did that. That's right. That's like rush hospital. I did that. I did that build it all by myself. Let me ask you, you know the, there's a position that the building trades for years didn't let men and women of color, and obviously you've been on your would be GIF if you weren't there. So what's what's the truth and what does it take to make sure that there's a diversity in the traits if the label or tag on the building trades is that they haven't really been open to everybody. Well, and you buy that? I don't because one a lot of this is just like with anything. If people aren't informed, just like the the kids come through bills if they don't know then how do they know where to go. So I help facilitate their interest using was a lack of information. Absolutely. Absolutely. More so than anything else, it's well, especially during my HUD, you learn about it meaning I IB w international brotherhood of electrical work. Well, I know I know some electrons and I tend to investigate everything. I like to call it to radio shows on solicit. That kind of stuff. You mean. But you know, it's, it's one of those things where if and I always shared this with the kids, if you have an interest in something and you have no idea how to get there, then you have to ask. So you just start asking people even just like hobbies. I experience working as a intern. He was talking to some people, some electrons on the job site and that just enhanced his interest in wanting to be an electrician. So a lot of it is more so a lack of information in being informed and the opportunities are there is just getting there to take advantage of it. I will say, you know, taking on this subject is more of the things I heard most frequently. You know when we did the rebuilt the entire red line south side, how many people in the neighborhood said it was great to see men and women principally meant to be honest, who came from southside lived on the south side. Kinda work on the project. You know it was the biggest project on the south side at the time, which is one billion dollar project, rebuilding the line. And I think that's a big statement of, you know, I have this. I always say that kids cannot be with the cannot see, right, absolutely. And if you can see Mario working on something, you can put in your imagination. Right? Right. So I'm gonna ask one favor of you. I want you to go back to Dunbar when you're an apprentice until the kids. I also have a school for you. I don't know if you'd like going into west side. I know how the rivalry here, but Prosser is going to be come to school on the west side. Same thing we're gonna put a trade school Bill program on the on the far west side. So the kids have Prosser like the kids at Dunbar get exposed to the trades get exposed so that when we build the airport, no your teacher here won't go back to the airport, he'll and do McCormick place, but you may want to be when you're done with the Obama library. You may want to be built in terminal to writing news. But I mean, I do want you to go back and talk to, what would you tell them? What do you think you would tell? I know it's early. Yeah, taken even the test yet. Number ready putting down, I have you building terminal to and you haven't taken the test yet, but that's exhilarating. The one thing I would tell them is to believe in yourself because a lot of kids in our community, you know, come me coming from, you know, the south side of Chicago, you know and seen what it is. We don't have a lot of self esteem, you know, and a lot of kids feel that they can't do the things that they see other people do. They can't see they can't picture himself as the mayor. They can't pitcher themselves even as an electrician, a doctor, a lawyer. And so I will just tell them like just believe in yourself, that is the main key and work hard. How do you think we we do as a city? Not just me as mayor for the city impaired hunting. We do get kids to. I mean, I got the, there's this program, bam, and somebody says, well, what does it do as well as amazing. I was in bam, bam to, yes, sir. I said, my biggest thing is it all? Does it help kids believe in themselves? It's the self discovery perk. I mean, how do we do that better is bam it, or is there other things? I think it just starts in the community. You know, it starts just lending a hand and. If you can lend, you know, give you can just get a neighbor to reach out to maybe their neighbor as in, you know, keep the chain going. That'd be amazing. That's what the IB w on. You know, on king drive, the U-Haul is doing. They have events. They have fundraisers, they have, you know, soup kitchens, that's they're doing. They helping out the community around that area, you know, and not just just for that area but so that area can go on and teach, hey, come over here. You know, we have a helping hand. You want to give a helping hand to you. They don't wanna make you feel that you're alone. We're here together as a community Ashikaga wins, you know, thirty years ago forty. They pulled the trades out of CPS. Sure. Kind of in at that time, everybody was arguing that we were trying pushing some kids towards college, kind of like what your mom was saying to you have here and the you didn't want dual-track have only certain kids not thinking about college, but vocation. I thought it left. Kind of a bad taste in people's malls, and we actually diminish the role of trades and we've been paying a price for it as a city ever since I agree with that because I mean thirty years ago, I was one of those teenagers. That was the emphasis was on college college. Where'd you go to high school? Actually went to is being cut you out there because I went to brother rice, so I did. I didn't. They were pushing you to college if everybody. Well, it's more of a family. It was more of a family push and even quite a few of our students that participate in the bills program. There were several of them that wanted to get into trays, but they said out, you know, with this college thing doesn't work out, then I'll come back. You know, they were doing it one kiss. I'm doing this for my mom because she, you know, she wants me to go to college, but he really wanted to be in the trade. So back then when I was a teenager, the emphasis on college and I just never really thought about being new trades, what happened is. Opportunity until I was in working in television and said, you know what? I wanna do something different, but and I, she always should this with the with my students. I want that picked being an electric because I can do it anywhere in the world. And you know, just for those guys to try to help them see the opportunity, just explaining things like that. You know it, it helped him open their minds up to possibilities of being in a trade. How would we get more students at to Dunbar and Prosser? How? What? What do you think we should do? Because I know the for the second year is better than the first year. Oh, absolutely. For this be what it should be. I mean, I think you would agree. We're fighting below our weight class over at Dunbar. Absolutely. So I mean for one, we have to do a better job at marketing it. I mean, you can't have someone market the trades that doesn't know about the trade, so has never been in a trade. So to go out because I talked to people on the streets. Anywhere I have an opportunity and I tell them if it's not for you, maybe it's for someone that you know and just trying to get the word out as much as possible. I mean, I think I'm doing okay, and the students had opportunity to see that we talk about not just a financial gain of being in the trays, but the fact that as long as you have a skill, you should never be hungry, you should never be hungry, so I can. You can always take care of yourself you, there's no doubt about that, but we got. I mean, the one thing is I remember alderman, we'll burn and I work on on this subject and who took a lot. But you remember that that's not convince people will put the trains back in the school and hey school, not every school because we never had the, but then and make this. I mean the first year I was wondering, well, one havi are signed up. I was like, well, the adults wanted this, what happened to the kids, but now it sounds like we're getting some traction here. Well, the kids tell. On their story helps. Right and their kids that have come back up to the school and that have kept in touch. And they always saying thanks because they just had no clue that this opportunity was there for them. So even with like we have done by the central, we got prosecute Wes. We do something far south, let me we. I think we can really harness a much larger market if we would choose something like my whole thing with know new airport, the modernization of the new blue and the red and purple on the CD, the new stuff that's going on in office buildings and apartments, and also in the residential. And that counting other types of investments that are happening at both the universities that shouldn't through thick and thin. They should basically ensure that we have a growth for those with the trades and carpentry electricity and aren't workers operating engineers. That to me is key. And may well, you can get a middle class standard of living and you can put your own kids through college. Absolutely. My how much of your job is teaching and how much and your job is mentoring given what Mara Utah, and you should jump in about the role? Not Mario specifically, you wanna talk about them. I'll sit between you and you can say, whatever you want. So you can't slug you or anything. But I mean, you mentioned about kids believing in themselves and to me view also describe what Mario does is what bam did. So how much of this is teaching and how much of this is also mentoring and helping young men make good choices and guiding them. So what what are you try to? You can teach people. You could almost teach me which I, my wife would really appreciate to me though. I mean hearing you guys almost eighty ninety percent of this is getting heavier and others and to talk to you, and I want you to jump in here but to think about themselves differently and and realized the possibilities that they have if they just focused, they have all the game than they need. So I would say ninety percent of it is mentoring. Yeah, ten percent of it is introducing them to electrically because we can't teach someone how to be an electric in a short period of time like that. To me, there's a speak to them about being mature because. The most important and most important things about being electric is getting home the same way you left home. So and it takes time to learn how to that me. You want to go back home, you don't wanna die at work. So that's that was something that was stated to me when I was an apprentice and I just never forgot it and pushed. It was very diligent about learning my craft that I try to put the same emphasis on the kids with this being exploratory for them, half of the battle is getting them to believe in themselves and being able to demonstrate to them how this would be good for them, especially, you know, you get because you have students that say, I don't like school. I'm tired of school, but here you have opportunity where you do school and you actually work and you make some money, and so you just have to explain it to them in a way that it makes sense to them. Do your is your mom she wanted to go to. What was that kind of conversation with your mom if you with you? Don't mind me asking college for silver aides and do so before entered. You know, Chicago bills and Dunbar from, you know, always told my mother, hey, Ma, you know, I want to go to college. I want to do something in the food of computers. You know, computers. Next thing, you know always had a gift for doing things with IT and you know, but I feel like it wasn't. It wasn't enough. I felt like it was. It was something out there missing that I really wanted to do. And so once I explained to her, hey, Ma, this is what I really want to do at first. She really didn't like it. She was like, well, you sure this is going you. This is what you want to do with the recession hits again. What are you gonna do that? Or what have you going to do if you lose a limb? Because if you lose the very important limb out, you know and I just told her that, well, I have teachers. I have mentors, I have peers. I have good amazing people around me that are pushing me and pushing and pushing the push in my head to be, you know. Safety. Wellness. Timeliness. As you know, Mr Miller saying Marlin Miller, he said, you know, being, you know, growing up being the dope handling your business, you know, and you know, eventually, you know, I start paying rent and now she's like, oh yeah, I like it. Now. And so parents only come in one. So. Are we got the rapid around, you get your own answers. You don't. Alright, cubs, her socks, white socks. Go ahead. He says, almost say, almost say, cubs, you can say, whatever you want thick or thin pizza thin. Did not really doing well here. Sears or Hancock building Sears Sears. Okay. Well, Willis, we'll stay with series. River or lake. Oh, wait a minute. What time of the day. We'll use answer you pick up the river. Okay. Twelve inches sixteen inch softball sixty six. You say that guy that likes pizza brother. Vere. Really want to thank you for being here. Thank you. I think we can make sure that if you get through your Prentice ship, I got a library that's a presidential library that needs building, and so we'll make sure I really wanna. Thank you. Well, no. I mean, you could have done anything as general Forman you're teaching kids and give them a chance. So I really wanna thank you in a Muslim more. Importantly, it took a lot to create the Dunbar program. Oh, yeah. Oh yeah. And it's good that it didn't fall flat on its face. I know that, but I appreciate and you only one gift. You're going to go back and you're an explain to both Dunbar. Another schools would what this opportunity provides sense when you become an apprentice. I just want you to be an ambassador for the program. I will. All right. Thank you. All right, Chicago stories. Mayor Rahm Emanuel. You've been listening to Chicago stories with mayor Rahm Emanuel. You can subscribe and leave a review on apple podcasts and tweets, your guest ideas using hashtag stories. 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Makeup for (the Fantasy) Tour!

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Makeup for (the Fantasy) Tour!

"Welcome to full coverage podcast by BBC. Lovers by bt. Lovers I'm your host today professional? No, that's not me on. Which? I'm not changing that editing out because it just is right on professional beauty lover Lindsey CALC life from La Chatting to you for my house where I've been since March thirteen. Totally, okay, totally fine and excited to be talking to you today actually quite frankly because it gives me something different to do. Just before I start on full coverage really wanted to say. Thank you so much to everybody who has messaged me about. In case you missed it. which is my new novel? That just came out in the UK last week. I've had so many lovely messages, so many of the part of Fam- have been involved in the events I, just been overwhelmed with love. Thank you show watch. We still got a couple more events coming up next Monday. July July August March August third. I am doing a special zoom event with caroline higher ends and Emma guns to celebrate the launch case you missed it and the super bestselling success of Caroline's book skincare if you haven't already registered for that the information. is on the Internet I'll try and post it on our website of the most registrations awful I. believe is fully booked up, but you can register for wait list if you would like to attend and if you can't make it, it's fully booked up. When you go to register. You will get sent a link afterwards to watch it after it happened, so you won't. Won't have to miss out I'm sure it's going to be fun. We all know caroline number of Powell's and we. They are two of the funniest. Most funds to women exist so I'm excited about that, but yet massive thanks to everyone who has already boy. In case you missed it massive massive massive. Thanks for everyone. If you've posted about it, things are so crazy. With me, not being able to be in the UK right now. John Normally would be at home on tour, which will later? I'm without that I've been going slowly slightly mad. So. Thank you for your support. to confirm the book will be out in Australia in August and New Zealand also and Canada and America in September. It's already on e book and Audiobook, but the paperback will be out in September so all. That is information's on my website anyway if you want if you're so inclined. If you're just have the makeup, you'll be police in there. We're GonNa talk about that now. Our main feature today will be tool related now every year and Harry go through everything buying at all. You know I love to buy something for tour and we always talk about the makeup. I'm taking on, too. Because there was no tore this year dastardly Colbrad. I thought it would be fun to talk through the things that I would be taking with me the new things because now having been doing this podcast for three years and having been touring forever. It's interesting to see what does and does make it in. That's new and goes out and What stays like what remains? That's really interesting for me. Hopefully, it's GonNa be interesting you, but you think about it as I can is my travel kit, but it's my most important makeup of the whole years tool. Make up an event makeup, so it's a makeup I. Trust the most that I love the most, and I know is the most reliable so my tool. Makeup Kit is always. Big Priority for me. Slap wise, so we're going to look at what's made it into my talk. It my non existent toolkit. That will be major before that we've got loads of new news absolutely bucketloads first up. I know everyone's so excited about this launch is the fantasy skin launch? They have announced their first three items and predictably fantasy skin skincare. We starting with a cleanser. Atone annoys. I mean basic three steps God bless round of keeping it simple. Now. We're going to look at the individual items. We haven't tried these yet. We haven't got our samples yet. They will be launching at the end of this week. So by the time we've tried them. You could have tried them, but let's all stay in touch and discuss as we know, so. We start off with the total cleanser. There's no east as a cleanser, so it's a cleanser to be technical is to in one cleanser makeup remover. Just cleansers. You'd better wash your face. Morning and night y'all this I'm reading directly from INSTAGRAM? Post! This is not my. These are not my feelings. So the ingredients are Baba. Bob Babo Spa. US Jesus. Christ Lindsey rounders from Barbados, but we just cherry an ingredient with antioxidants, each cherry pat with vitamin C. than an orange, but that doesn't really tell you how much fitness is in this product, but anyway it's got vitamin C in there. It's GOT GINGKO BILOBA checking. Never say to control oil and clarify shine green tea again. Rich in antioxidants, fake, a desert, loving fruit that entire oxidants does a lot of antioxidants, and it's got quince in that era. Fruit infused minerals. I mean. I guess quences right, is it? You can get it in the supermarket in jam form. But I don't know so yeah lots of antioxidants. Some vitamin, C in here an cleanser now the one thing I want to point out because this is what you're GonNa, see throughout the range is as a lot of talk of pause. So this is it purifies pause and helps fight shine long after rinsed off I. Don't know how it's doing that I. Don't know how it lands is helping to fight shy long after your off apart from that it's removed any possible oil causing shine when you using it. But we'll see we'll find out step to the skin. Routine is the fat water, poor refining, toner and serum. Fat Water, so it's called fat water, 'cause it's thick, double see, but also I think just thick with a K. would cover it to unique textures. You can pour in Johann to apply. No cottam pads needed so I think rather than this actually being a traditional toner as we would know it. This is actually more of an. It's thick liquid that you porn. Johanna apply directly to your skin, so you don't need to use cotton pads it's it's an essence. Isn't it? Not really a toner? It's alcohol free. That's fantastic. It's a tone of Serum Combo is an essence that targets targets. Pause improves the look of. Sorts Brighton smooth and fights shine, so it's got nice in a might in. We Love Niacin more Baba's Cherry Cool, Australian, Lemon Myrtle and Hazel water interesting, which is all is is a commonly used ingredient. Some people just use which as long its own good see that here Japanese raisin tree to help detoxify. I don't know what Japanese raising tree is. It, isn't it? Isn't it a grapevine? No, it probably is. Maybe there is a tree. I'm going to Google it. I should have done this before I talked to you about it, but I just saw. These posts are set down to record. I thought it was very important news to share with you. Japanese raisin tree to help deflect. I believe you cactus flower to help hydrate and green tea and fig again Richon toxins, so man antioxidants in here which I love the only thing I don't love about this. Think, that's a tone because attorney plus serum I think they're trying to make it sound like something new, and actually just an essence a that's marketing. Sure whatever the poor refining par don't like I. Don't like when things imply that they can change the size of your pores because they can't. They can just clean them. They can't shrink them. They don't open or close open. Close component goes you put closure policy open. They do not have a door on them. You can just clean them I feel like. Maybe it's of hints at that which I love, but it does look like an interesting product with lots of yummy ingredients. I can't wait to see the full inky I can't wait to see the Highlands Review on this I'm sure we will talk about it next week on our event step. Three of the fifties can sorta step. Is A moisturizer obviously, Hydra visor invisible MOISTURIZER SPF. You know awesome. It's again nice in highland acid. Melon Wild Moat. Watermelon more antioxidants. This is lovely. I love. All these things says there's no chalking USC pink tinted applies on all skin tones. That's no flashback. It says has no pilling says it boosts and brightens skin that makes pause. Fine lines wrinkles less visible instantly on overtime. I. I don't know because I haven't tried yet. It's coral reef friendly for the SPF in there, which is fantastic, it's also earth, conscious and refillable. Now I love that it's refillable. and. It looks like it's an awesome airtight pump. Love I'm just personally not someone who prefers to put sunscreen in their moisturizer. I don't love that it does that. It says that literally says you better wear sunscreen every damn day. We got you with high devices broad spectrum SPF protection. We all know anyone who looks at skin or takes care skin, or is vested in skincare in any way shape or form. You know you need to use a separate SPF and not just what's in your moisturizer? You would need to use such a tremendous amount of MOISTURIZER WITH SPF in it to get the coverage. It advertises I kinda just wish she had separated the two out. But you know it's in that belt-and-braces I guess do it and then use your SPF on top of it. Okay, it's very young. skewing range make sense fantasy is. targeted. That's very simple. Three step not mad about it curious to see how it looks out feels how it performs. In, other venues also is a new fancy gloss launching this week in cheeky and like a cherry red, so of color share cherry red very excited about that because I do love a gloss bomb. They one of my favorite fantasy products, so it was pumped about that. But yeah. I am curious about how everyone else's feeling. About fantasy skin. Are you going to invest infant? Skin is fantasy, skin, view or you intrigued by fat water. I I mean I like the name I've got. I can't lie. I liked the marketing of IT I liked it. It's both genders I liked that she's saying. It's for everyone both genders genders sorry. But we'll see we shall see. Let's see how good it is. Let's see what the deal is. Let's wait on the Highlands Review. Another brand that we mentioned time that's out and now we now have more clarity on what the products are going to be. Is Patrick Stars one size, and he has announced his color cosmetics Yay. Actual color cosmetics not just make movers we have the visionary collection which includes I saw Palette forty two bucks in the US fifty shades. A mix of neutrals pops of Kala woman cool different finishes. This Matt's Shimmer spoils. Very exciting through have been bossed also big thing, isn't it? People love to emboss random shadows. Doesn't make any difference outperform, but sure. The I pop is what I'm really excited about, and this is a liquid shadow. There is super, high and glittery. The apparently is fantastic. Long wear put on stays in place. I love a liquid ice shadow a cream to powder whatever you want it to be. It looks like a traditional is in a tube. Has the dough for applicator? I'm pumped to try these. These are the first things I will purchase from this brand because really really really want to try them out. especially, the death drop shade, The black with silver and gold sparkled. That looks amazing, and probably the P. House, which is the new with sparkle, which is literally the two opposite ends of the six shades available. Also got point majors to twenty four hour long, lasting liquid eyeliner pen, and point may twenty four hour long lasting Gel eyeliner pencil, so there's two shades of that one I think that's a black, brown liquid eyeliner option and a pencil eyeliner option. It's very exciting, isn't it? Isn't it very exciting? It's very exciting, just so many fun things coming out and two more new launches that we want to talk about. I know you have been talking about facebook group and that's. Pretty much where I got direction for this episode so. Don't be surprised if you're like wait Lindsey. We've been talking about this I. Know That's why we're here. This is a big one. I, know so many people in the industry. Love this guy, so many people in the industry have so much respect for him, and it is Wayne Goss Wayne Goss. Cosmetics have allow announced their first launch which is the imperial Topaz Aisha Palette. Per Ritti. I think it feels very artist led to me. It's very no frills. No Fuss, classy, black packaging with just the pans in the Palette, no embossing, no founding around for one. Sense it's very classic, very sophisticated. This shades of absolutely beautiful. Neutrals. It's Browns Browns Matt difficult is is going to go matt for this browns and Matte Black. I feel you. Could achieve a lot of different looks. Sorry, Philly pause my cats going where two behind us. She different but looks with this. It's GonNa. Look great on all skin tones. And really excited for this. It's definitely right in my wheelhouse does remind me a little bit of some of the shades in the Natasha Dimona bronze palate. But. You can never have too many browns lots. He can never have too many browns. and. There's also at three. Cole Eye Pencils Obsidian Precious Opal and rich Hazel. I feel like they're going to be really good because I think when a makeup artist does Kohl's. They do them really really really well, so I am pumped to try that and congrats to Wayne who just deserves? All, he deserves it all such Nice Fella and Really pleased that this is happening behind that launches July thirtieth two so lots of launches coming to lighter at everyone's going to be broke. Come Friday. The last launch took about is again vaguely related to something. We mentioned on the last episode. Murphy as we know, has ended all professional ties with Jeffrey saw cosmetics. We wondered what they would do next. What they will do next is a brand new line called morphe- to. It is Gen Z. skewing. I feel that we just got on top of saying that things were aimed at millennials are now. Everyone's pointing their products that Gen Z. I blamed tiktok. I'm right to do so because this brand is fronted by to talk influences. The d'ermilio sisters demilio how to pronounce it because I've seen the MONTEK dock. They do dancing. They're very good. I'm Manana. I am. TIKTOK thought to come away because it was just eating my life, but. If you WANNA see Anderson jumping around, that's on talk. Yeah while this is as far as i. know the I like straight up Jansy directors launch from a big brand. A includes hint, hint, skin tint available in twenty shades, one tent, lip and cheek. Available in four shades Jelly Shimmer. That's an six shades really interested in that gloss pop face, I G- loss and classified lip oil available in six days as also a brush collection. I don't really feel like brush collection is specifically. Jazzy, but The glosses Jelly is all really interesting? It's all very much fresh face. It's all about Julie Glossy Young Fun. I love the pitches that they've put out. The sisters don't look like perfect. They just they've done that. Make themselves and they're having fun with it. which obviously is what Tiktok is all about? So. Yeah, it'll be fun to see how this does. I think is GonNa do really really well because it just looks really fresh and fun and summery as lots of color and a an elected or not. In other new news I have to tell you about this new elements, superfood ha glow, cleansing butter. That came our way this week. another new product in this line that I'm GonNa talk about I'm GonNa say that for a highlight of the week spoiler alert. This cleansing butter is really lovely it just feels. Feels like a cleansing data I don't really know how to explain it. You know I love the elements pro cleansing Pro Collagen. Cleansing bomb is my absolute jam. Is the product I've used the longest forever and ever and ever and ever, and ever I've been using it for years, but the HA cleanser literally just finished a tub of. Pro. COLLAGEN cleansing bomb. So I brought in the Pumpkin Pumpkin glow cleansing pumping location cleanser. Mind just as Low, maybe an England whole Pumpkin glow, but anyway it's got pumpkin in it, and it's really really nice. It feels really lush, and like the texture of Israeli thick, and you want to put your hands in it. It's full of h enzymes from Pumpkin. It says right here. This is something I should have again found out more about, but it's just really lauch. I would say don't use. Use it around the eye area with the pro collagen cleansing ball. I'll happily take over my eyes and it will take off every bit of makeup I've ever worn in my entire life with this because its enzymes H. as in it's not for the is I did take over. My is one night and just it stung, so don't do that. Don't do what Donnie don't does. Do not put. Cleansing over your eyes. That's my fault. That is not the cleanses for, but it's really really loved the you can leave it on as a bit of a mask. Once you've massaged in, or you can just wipe it straight off with a hot warm flannel. And it does give you very glowingly. Juicy plunk top skin, so if you're looking for an alternative to the pro collagen cleansing bomb, or you don't like an oil leak cleanser. This is more of a butter. This could be a great option for you to try. To more things I want to catch up on from last week's because we mentioned them, and now I've tried them. And that is the PAT McGrath labs, doc, Storm Scar, and the hourglass unlocked instant extensions mascot now. I. Love Him Scar you all know one of the reasons. I started my beauty blog. Beauty Mecca a million years ago. Two thousand six was because. I was on the perfect. Mascara. Difficult is is not called. Difficult is for no reason she's called. Difficult is because she to struggles with the Moscow with both very smoggy humans were both people who get ponder is very easily. Get transfer onto upper live very easily I, never hardly ever where lower lash Mascara, because it just transfers onto my chipmunk cheeks so whenever there's a new massacre launch I am excited. Now with DOC saw. From Pat McGrath laps. It says instant volume stretch at length, an anti gravity lift Liu so basically it says it does literally everything I. Do like the packaging, so if this punky pink and black packaging with gold embossing on it with the logos, the Tube is gold with pink print on there, which is pretty cool. You open it up. It's a big Chunky tube, and it's a big chunky brushes like that very traditional hourglass shape that we're seeing more and more a for volume, thick chunky mass cars. Other than that. I've got to say it wasn't super impressed. There's nothing wrong with it. But does nothing especially right with? Like I didn't get anything more impressive from this than I would. From alario or Mascara and this is obviously dramatically more expensive than a mailing or Laurie. Al even in essence like the essence Moss cars so good, and they're so cheap. This is a perfectly adequate functioning Mascara. That's just GONNA cost you a lot money and I just didn't love it enough to be able to recommend it with my whole heart. I just can't do it if you want it. You won't be down by IT I. Don't think I did find it translated a little bit. I just had some sort of Docs smudges, not chunks or Can Terrible, but just you know you get this little dark shadows underneath your i. y you've just heard transfer over time. But nothing worse than the average Mosquera. But for the price that isn't from the Brandon it's from. It should be better. The average Mascara moving onto the hourglass on locked. Now this again they've gone. Gold is gold is the color of this is the goals of Fox. It's a gold shoob very similar, actually very weird. It's got the hourglass unlocked printing on it. It's also got. The hourglass leaping with the bunny, the HOURGLASS Bonnie, because it's kind to you know human rights. Logo is etched into the tube which was a nice touch. The difference here is it's? Can you hear opening? He wants to make some. it's a plastic comb. It sort of conical Christmas tree so of shapes. It's a little bit thicker at the bottom than it is at the top. It's got plastic bristles. Morris of over there real type brush I mean the plastic bristles rather than the brush. Pat Has the big traditional curvy brush. This has the plastic comb bristles. This feels much heavier to this. One's waited for sure. Feels much more locks and the best thing about the arrogance Mascara is it's a tubing formula. So it builds length. Very easily I want sits on. It's pretty much on there I. Really didn't get any transfer with this one The thing with this I found mildly disappointing was it's instant extension, so it's for length. Yes, but it just doesn't give a lot of. It really reminded me of the glossy lash lick with just slightly more. Length and volume fractional and glass like I love for my lashes on. It's very natural looking with this. I just wasn't super impressed by the Finnish. I like a really dense flattery. Thick fringe of lash like I want to see I. don't like a clumpy lash by like a really volumizes thick. fringy Lash, and this gave very long defined. Natural volume lashes really didn't improve volume. It just darkens your lashes, but it is very black it is very pretty. It's just far more of a natural look than I was looking for I. Think if you're looking for a tubing Mascara, that won't budge over the summer. It's a great option, but again it's just right on that expensive end of the pricing spectrum. How I just I don't know you can get tubing my scars for less and we equally as happy with them I. Just I feel like I'm being a bit of a Debbie Downer on luxury Moscow has recently apart from the one I laughed I'm going to talk about in a little bit. and. It's just because I do think there are so many more options out there. The reasonably priced league drugstore mass cars highstreet, Moscow as are some of the best out there, so it's hard to say for me to say this is great, and you should spend your money on it. It's easy for me to say this is out and just describe it as news, but for me to review it to you. It's really hard. Hard for me to tell you to spend your money on it when I just think there are equally good products out, therefore sometimes third or a quarter of the price, is just an awful lot of money. If you want a sexy gold, Chew Mascara than either of these will be great, but you could find another scar. That does this job just as easily from boots, superdrug from walgreens from target wherever you are. and. Shoppers. What about Canadian listeners shoppers I love shoppers? and. You just don't need to spend this much money, but. That's so that's my overall review both a fine I wouldn't spend my money on either of them ever again. So that new news ending. Up Now as I like to do. After the break I'm GonNa come back and talk you through. What has made it into my talk? If I were got tall. Pretend, we are and that's what we're going to talk about after this break. What back did you miss me? No, 'cause you probably skip through the ad I always do. I just really really really wanted to chat about the products that I have light so much that they would make it into my tool kit bag if it was going on tour, because let's pretend that I am. Let's pretend. I'm about to pack a bag and get on the plane to England on meet all in Liverpool and London Manchester Glasgow and Edinburgh Leeds and Sheffield and all the other places I want to go cardiff and Bristol an anywhere in bloody island. If they'll just let me go You'll never let me go into island. Desperate go! This was supposed to be the year. Anyway. What would be in Mytalk it these are the new homes, mostly new releases from the last few months that I would without shadow of a doubt. have in my talk. It and the first one is an idiopathic. Now is always the trickiest because I always WanNa take thousands of pilots and I always do, and then I end up using you dip just new dip only new dip forever and ever Newt. So this year I do feel like this would have made it in on isn't an attache to known Lebron's. We've talked about his new news of talked about as a highlight of the week. It just keeps coming up. I just keep using it i. just keep being delighted by a motorbike just went past. I don't know what to tell you. It's so lovely. It does so many Nice looks is on the dark side the deep aside the rich aside is better for dramatic looks the natural looks you might need to introduce a couple of lighter colors in there highlights Should you want to lift it up? It plays really nicely with an association. Many Glam Kampala, which has got some lighter colors in there. I liked. Playing with those together and I wouldn't be mad if I had to take that with me as well 'cause. It's so dinky that could be my carry on I shadow. Palette when this would be my. Checked luggage. I should appellate, but that would definitely, and then attaches don and Lebron's Palette. Really love it alternate. Shadow pilots I think I would probably take a few of the Elf many pallets that we've been in love with. They are just remarkable and really enjoy what office doing at the moment is just so fun. I get the L. Retro Paradise Collection to review, and I played with the show Palette, which was really lovely. The pigment isn't as intense as it is on a lot of. Shadow palettes that cost more because obviously it costs less. That's the clue the clues right there, but I did a really fun look with. An ICY, blue and a coppery color. There's a coppery color call Fortuna which is just very very similar to a lot of the stuff in the bronze power, and then turn Natasha Danone Lebron's and this beautiful blues in there as well. Some really lovely like poolside colors so. I! Don't know if that would make into my tool kit. The eighteen piece Retro Paradise, but the mini kits I would absolutely consider taking along with me because they're lovely, and you could just stick them into handbags overhead to do more makeup on the train. We have more than once for tour events. That would be very very very handy. I Li- know why hasn't been anything that's really blown me away. I would still take my cave. Cake liners on my tattoo liner because that's where I feel safest. Mascara Still Lush Paradise for me. It's still. Lash Paradise UK Formula I would stock up on that, but I would also take with me. The Marc Jacobs at lashed. Just because I'm out of UK, Lash Paradise at the moment, which is, it's fine. It's totally fine. I'm okay with it. Don't not stressed about. It's totally okay. and I do feel like the Marc. Jacobs. That lashed is the closest to that formula. I've used here. Obviously, it's considerably more expensive which I don't enjoy. And I will say I think it's going to dry out really quickly, but that's also a problem with. Lush Paradise Lash Paradise. Dries out quick, but that's because it's perfect when you open it. We talk about this all the time. How alive my scars work best! If you open it, you use it the first time. It's really really wet, really clicking community clumpy. We don't like it. You close it back up. Try again a week later on. It becomes a Dream Mascara Lash Paradise. Paradise Amee is a dream Mascara from the first day of opening it Marc Jacobs lashed as well, but because they performed so well from first opening. They dry out so much quicker. Don't mind so much with less paradise with so much cheaper with Marc Jacobs is so expensive a little bit like Oh. Is this on its US? Already I've only had it for like a month. But, I don't know if I'll read it. Do really love it. The packaging is gorgeous, and the effect is absolutely beats for I wore it for. Zoom Event I did for my book on. Really stay on. Those people message me to ask what false eyelashes I was wearing, and it was like. No, it's the Mall Jake Oscar. So, that's how good is that is how good it is now base starting with cheeks. I would definitely definitely definitely take the CRT Julie Blush Glossy Cheek tent in Watermelon I. Absolutely love this. It's so dinky! It's so lovely is juicy. It share its pink it summer. Harry's been using the coconut shade a lot on her instagram lives, and that's the more brownish nude forty color, which is just look stunning on her. I need the pink in my face. I'm so pale and all the payload of inside so long. But I need that juicy pink. Flush on. It's just the perfect color. It's a very blue pink. Be Put it against blue is. It just POPs. It's gorgeous. I love it I. DON'T WANNA be without it. I would also probably this would be one I would be on the fence about because it's Chunky, but would probably take my patrick tar. She's that girl double take cream and powder blush because it gives you the cream and powder on. away refuse to put the cream on top of the powder. I think that's ridiculous but I knew I would definitely have to take my hourglass. ambient blush, because literally cannot live without it I've just panned my second kindle third one. But. That's the blush I've been committed to. Longest in life since my beloved Mac Hello Kitty. which was a very blue raspberry color the closest I found to that. For years was bobby. Brown's Blue Raspberry, which was also limited edition. Hello, Kitty was limited edition from Mac and Blue Light Blue Raspberry, limited edition from Bobby Brown, and then I eventually found my love with the. Blush from Hourglass, so thank you outlast the. Making my dreams come true, but I will probably take the Patrick tar on the CRT on the hourglass. Click do like to have a blush wardrobe. I think it's imported I think it makes me look a lot healthier and a lot brighter bushy tailed. Don't if it affects the bushes of my tail, but I liked to have multiple brushes as an option anyway. Highlight to wise probably probably would just take again. My hourglass strobe powder because I love that subtle and pretty, and then I'll probably take the chanel sculpting sculpting. Probably take the Chanel. Stick highlighted just because it makes me feel bouncing just like feeling fancy probably do that. Base Wise the foundation that has found its way into my heart over the last twelve months, and we're definitely definitely one hundred percent be in my kit would be the Lemaire Luminous Lifting Cushion Foundation in Utah Ivory this. I bought for my wedding, so he didn't have it when we went on tour last year. I I love it on a you. Know I hate recommending stuff. That's super expensive. But it's just so good and I think the drugstore cushion foundations are brilliant. I loved the maybelline dream foundation the so hard to find now they've gone away. It was like a trend that came and went, and not many people kept them up which breaks my heart. The wet and wild one is really good if you can get it. But this one is just next level. It will give you. The Julie lifted luminous skin of dreams. It feels like nothing is just super hydrating and gorgeous, but it just lifts and elevates the skin to a level. I cannot comprehend I just love it so much, you guys. I'm so sorry. were at my wedding day. I I've worn it all the time. It just makes me really happy I do need to conceal her to my chin and around my nose. If I need to be on camera, or if I was doing an event I would want that extra coverage because it's medium, it's medium coverage this billable, but rather than Lopez on our rather just add conceal, and the concealed. I would add this point would be the dior forever skin, correct which you've heard Harry rutland about. HOW INCREDIBLE IS I? Do think it's brilliant. It's basically just an amazing. Super Lendable Gorgeous Louis pigmented perfect coverage. Conceal A. I never used to be much. Conceal her. I would rather just do a heavier foundation and buffet, where it's not needed as much and just do everything in one, but this is the consular. That's kind of shifted me around to using much less foundation and using the consular in stead. I. Do feel I. Mean that's a quarantine thing for me as well though there's many days where I just don't bother with makeup, whereas before I will make up every single day, no fail now I can very easily go to three days without any makeup on A. Makeup, it's just for me. If I'm not going on. Zoom scrum live, or if I'm not doing or anything I'll just I just WANNA? Do make up myself. I'll just put on a little bit of this dior forever skin, Correct Zealand buffet out and it's just really pretty. I am the paler shade. I'm zero neutral. Do think the shade range doesn't cover the PAYOLA and very well. It's I could go paler. It could easily go a little bit Paler. But that doesn't exist. It's fine. It does go up a high into deep shades though so. Props for that props for that leads, and then onto lips, finishing with lips. Obviously I'm going to take my lip glow because I am what I am. I would also take a bunch of the MAC various color stains because I love them. I hate that you can't get them anymore. I hate that they were discontinued. There are some places you can find them. You can usually find them on like Nordstrom rack while some of the discount places, which just is monstrous because they were incredible, a love them and I would probably take glossy. generation g mats, too, because I think they're still brilliant. But I would one hundred percent wants. Take my Patrick Tar. That's why she's late bread. I, love this. It's just so well pigmented just last so long, and it's so pretty. The color is lovely. I did get the Orangey red. I did an order. The orangey red as I, said I would try out I just love it as much the colors just not quite right for me, but the actual practice office stunning stunning. And then the other thing I definitely definitely would want, and you could hit a joy in my lot. My voice is I'm talking about is the newly relaunched juicy tubes from Lancome? I am so happy to have these babies back I don't think I realized how much I loved juicy tubes until my order arrived I, ordered marshmallow. And Hello Cherry and I definitely had marshmallow the first time round and the Cherry Ironman the buying my first. You see tubes. My boyfriend when on like a very very very very cheap. To night trip to Paris I think it was two nights. When I was like twenty, two totally broke no money saved up over Christmas money and just saved for ages to do this. And we stayed in this dodgy Dodgy Hotel. We have to fly. It was just a nightmare I. Don't know why very would've been easier, but it was more expensive than this dodgy middle of the night flight. That was just super sketchy. And I remember. We got to Charles de goal to get off back. and. duty-free was open and we haven't really spent any money. Only money we had was for food, so we didn't spend anything and GT free had a juicy two three pack. That was really cheap, because it was duty free, and it was she. By one I at that time could never have imagined buying a top level like just evan counter brand lip gloss. It was absurd to me. I was like Oh my God this ridiculous. That's so expensive now remember my boyfriend's late. Now you buy, you should buy it. You want it so much. He didn't buy it for me. I hasten to add. But I bought myself I did it by myself for three pack and I wore those losses until those tubes so Mikey and empty. And as soon as I got these, and soon as I open them up, I've got them in my hand right now and I'm just full of joy. They smell exactly the way I remember them. The marshmallow smells like. Candy, floss like sugar, like vanilla and the Hello Cherry. Just Muslims sweeties. It smells like Fox's glossy immense. Smell watermelon to me than Cherry. I'll just say but I don't care. The Heller. Cherry is a non glittery. Just juicy. Jelly read that comes out pretty share. It's absolutely gorgeous, and the marshmallow is actually now marshmallow electro. Because, it's a very. Pale Pale Pale Pale pink that comes out pretty much clear. But, it's got a ton of Shimmer and glycerine it which just makes it really fun and I would really love that. For events, maybe I would do like a dark bronze Eli with Natasha Donor. But maybe a Matt I and Lebron's glittery lip knew I don't know the scandal and the Hello Cherry I would wear with the more neutral i. maybe a Nice Taylor Swift flick. On this cherry gloss who I bet. The Cherry lip gloss would look amazing over the poetry, tall or I'm getting excited I. Wish I taught share with you and I almost managed to go through this whole episode so without mentioning Taylor Swift. Are you impressed because I think we all know what I've been doing since folklore dropped yeah. Before. I just end up spending this entire episode rock waxing lyrical. Long juicy tubes? It's time to move on to highlight of the week. Now I feel bad for the highlight, 'cause. How'd you follow up with that? I'll tell you how amazing who would like to sing with me. Let's do one two three. High Lie Tov? The we. the cat. Deeply unimpressed, deeply unimpressed. My highlight of the week is the elements superfood glow priming moisturizer Kombucha Glow Moisturizer I. Don't know why it's got two names I. don't care. It's brilliant. It's so good. It's very unassuming I'm holding my little palm right now. It's a little bottle sixty mils to fluid ounces. It's just a squeezy ball. A see through squeezy old with a white screw top Cap Scott a very simple printed label. It's just a one color white label with all the information on. It looks like absolutely nothing looks like whatever and when you use this, your life will change I. don't care if that sounds like a bit much. Because it's not, it's incredible. It is a lovely, lovely, lovely, fast, absorbing light MOISTURIZER, but it Scott a luminescent to it that when I first saw I was like. Oh, it's kind of like stupid. You reminds me of Glossy Paju It's a little bit more peachy than the pink of Super Ju. And then once I got onto my hand. It feels nothing like Super Ju. I had to apologize the Super, Jew and I one hundred percent half that my routine in ages, actually because it's in the other room and that's all it takes to pull out my routine. Sue is oil-based. It's heavy I find it a lot I cannot use it all over. My face can only use it on the high points of my face on my cheekbones really. I prefer to use it as a highlight than. Serum or Primer the elements superfood glow primary moisturizer. Is The opposite I just pumped some of my hand. It has absorbed. Heartbe is in I robbed. A on is already dry. It smells gorgeous is very very very lightly scented, and even though it looks quite glowing when you pump out, all leaves behind is the most luminous beautiful pretty sheen. There is no glitter. There is no shimmer. It's just so pretty even on the days when I'm not wearing makeup mostly using this as my moisturizer, my daytime moisturizer so I'll use a wash face. Actually using the superfoods Sika calming foam cleanser from elements. Who Food at the moment then I will use. I've been using the Moshe. I can't say it. Bo share BOSC. Vegan Collagen Serum. Which I'm really liking. I'm testing that against the mass I've been using forever so far. No complaints if you're looking for a Vegan version, the Bosa BOSCA. Whatever it might be option is great. Is there definitely try out and then? After that I would use I've been using the elements peptide hydrating moisturizing milk serum. That's too many words, but on top of that because collision is Collagen, it's like Light Gel. And then I like to use the milky hydrating clan serum as well because my skin is super, dehydrated the moment, and then I just want a final light layer of moisturizer onto lucky all in on my moisturizer choice has one hundred percent. In this LMS, superfood glow priming, guys. It's so pretty like it's just silly. I keep putting ardent. Catch myself in a mirror and be like. Oh look at me. It gives you that look of like. You've just done a full cleanse. And Mask and everything in your skin just looks juicy and healthy and chloe and wonderful, and well, even though you've been in the house for several months, and you feel like actual dog, Shit. It makes you feel like it makes you look the opposite of how I feel and honestly that's all I can ask for the fact that it's also full of LMS skincare ingredients. is his bonus, honestly like I would probably use it even if. It was not that good view because it just gives me the prettiest finish, also have used it as a highlight. Lighters tapped on top of makeup just on my cheekbones. And I've really really liked it that way. It doesn't mess with your makeup because it's so light, and because absorbed so quickly, it doesn't upset you makeup. It plays with it pretty well. Especially fuse cream so if I use the La- cushion foundation, which is a very water foundation, and then I would use the CRT Jewish blush, which is obviously a liquid. Blush. An a liquid foundation on top L. equipped highlighted on top of that story goes really nicely, but it also looks really Nice on top of full beat like I did it Before I did my event with G. on Zoom G Fletcher and I didn't event together last week on when I had a full face I used it then as well, and it's just so pretty. I cannot say enough good things about its rave for me. It's an absolute rave especially looks so unassuming and like it's just like. Hey, I'm just here is just me? I'm just this little dinky. All with the white cap in one color print I'm not fancy I'm just doing my thing. Doing things so well do things I well, which is all? We can ask for any of, isn't it? I hope you're doing really well. I hope this was a fun break from whatever it was doing before it. If you're in the car if you're new way to work. I know a lot. People are getting back to work right now. I'm thinking of you. All I am also working obviously from home. And Y-, I just really looking forward support where we can all be together again soon, which hopefully as sooner rather than later at this point, but thank you so much as I said for all of your support on in case you missed it. An everyone in the facebook group has been smashing it with the challenges. 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