17 Burst results for "Fred Phelps"
"fred phelps" Discussed on Ari Shaffir's Skeptic Tank
"Church remember them. Yeah and they were. They were a big. Yeah yeah that was my biggest. My number one like wish. I could have got an interview and didn't is fred. Phelps from the westboro. We're the the signs with the gays are going to hell right protests. Those guys are fucking hilarious very because they went to cancun like they they those printed out some in have. I'll make these exactly exactly. They didn't yeah. I once got a cake for rogan on his birthday We're in schaumburg or something. Yeah and so. There was a mall next to the club and i went. I was fortieth birthday or something. So i went to a mrs fields and they have those big cookies so i was like. Hey can you autograph this in icing. He's a kiss show. What am i happy. Birthday and then And the guys like four. So on my. I don't know if i could say this. I'm like and then it's like okay. So the word is spelled f. a. and then and then Jujio and then to. And i'm like looking at the whole time like he's like okay. Go to this. I'm like thank you but like you know you're so risky going. No did it. You did it. Yeah yeah man. I love that. I forgot about that. You have to get like a foreign who has no idea what i see. What's gonna care about that like at all like correctness sir. Can you give me the money. I put what you want. On there i made Louis ahead pedophile shirts for skiing. I i remember that one place coming in other was like who is this guy interested Some will only some not all rate but the good thing about that is if anyone questioning and they're like who's the guy your let me show you video and they're like okay. I'm not that yeah that for you Oh so no emotion at but like why so okay. So people they go to just a random barrels of fallen soldiers and they say they're basically the u. of churches. So here's where i go too far. I don't think iraq. The here's what i think they go too far..
"fred phelps" Discussed on True Crime Fan Club Podcast
"Many who did not know her gwen at her. Mother's request was buried in a dark dress with her hair fixed and make up on. Many of the mourners were transgender themselves and came from other cities such as christopher robin and jennifer names. Who said this could have happened them. One man who draped himself in an american flag came because his transgendered sister from new york had asked him to fred phelps leader of the bigoted westboro baptist. Church threatened to show up but in the end the event remained peaceful students from newark. High school's drama class showed up in angel costumes. They had been performing the laramie project a controversial play about matthew shepard. The wyoming student. Who was murdered for being gay. Butterflies offered a theme for the funeral as they were guan's favourite symbol. Her aunt imelda eulogized when saying. Take your flight beautiful butterfly. Take your flight. Silvio later told reporters she has always had a fascination with angels and gwen funeral helped her realize. Why angels are not gendered. Jaren michael and jose were all arrested. After guan's body was found. They were charged with murder plus a hate crime specification which can add up to four years to each charge on october. Twenty fourth two thousand to these three men all appeared in court enter please only jaren entered a plea of adamantly innocent his attorney robert peel's said the plea is not guilty to the charge of murder and adamantly denying the hey clause enhancement. The other. two men did not present please. Although all three were held without bond robert tried to distance his client from the other two suspects by presenting a plea and also by speaking with reporters outside the courtroom. Robert also said of jaren. There's no bias in him. Nothing to indicate neighbors would actively participate in any type of homophobic activity. Jason was not arrested until over a month later and was not charged with a hate crime. Jason xerez did admit to being at the party on october third but said little else to investigators a search warrant executed at his parents home resulted in the retrieval of two shovels a pickaxe a spade and to hose. Although jason's mother said she was not aware of him using these implements recently in january two thousand three at a preliminary hearing for the four men accused of. Gwynn's martyr a witness testified. She had received a phone call from jason around three in the morning of october fourth. Two thousand two. She could hear a disturbance in the background. Basically yelling at someone to tell him the truth about something. This witness had recently had a sexual relationship with jason but new all four defendants and consider them all close friends. She thought one of the voices she heard in the background was that of jose merrill. She had also told her mother previously. She heard someone say. I am a girl but in her testimony said she wasn't sure. She admitted she was reluctant witness because of her friendship with the men the witness said jason told her someone was there and they were just trying to get an answer out of this person she said when jason hung up he said some things about to go down. This podcast is sponsored by better help. Online baby took out better help. Dot com slash. Tc cfc now as you know. I am a new mom so my life is kind of crazy right now and sure. Everybody's life is full of stressors and it doesn't matter who you are or what you have. Your life is probably stressful. But i'm learning to navigate how to deal with any type of post-partum blues. I may be having and better help has honestly really helped me now. You may not be feeling down and out and depressed or like you're at a total loss but if your stress is high your temporary shorter than usual or even if you're starting to feel strain in any of your relationships you could probably use the chance to unload so unload the stress and get it out. Talk to someone who's completely unbiased about your life. Someone who isn't going to judge you or take sides on anything. Better help as customized online bear be that offers video phone and even live chat sessions with your therapist. So you don't have to see anyone on camera if you don't want to. It's much more affordable than in person therapy and you can start communicating with your therapist and under forty eight hours on. Load the stressors and get some unbiased feedback. You'd be pretty surprised at what you might gain from it. See if it's for you. This podcast is sponsored by better help and true crime fan club podcast listeners. Get ten percent off their first month at better health dot com slash tc cfc. That's b. e. t. t. e. r. h. e. l. p. dot com.
"fred phelps" Discussed on You Made It Weird with Pete Holmes
"To find the timeless. And this is the way it's meant to be. That's a weird serendipity. Because i did a voiceover auditioned today for cartoon and one of the characters was a pastor just to get I was doing multiple character. So he's trying to find like five different voices and so one of them. I was like. I'll just look up joe lows team just to kind of get the feel of a pastor kind of like a smiley passer and the jolo scene clip. I found that. It was really funny. Because i really and he was basically saying what mood. He said you're just going like god accepts you as you are not when you're transformed as you are right now and he's working on little bottle. Oh that's how it works. He's basically saying and i understand. There's been some snafus in the past would with joel come pastor joel But i remember talking about that. We were like. I sometimes think that he's giving people. It might look kind of like primary colors. Pretty basic but there is a message of like euro k. And and it's okay. I will take that over even if it seems smiley or saccharin or whatever. It is the turns people off about him. I'll take that over a smiley saccharin guy going like and you will burn. Inhale like it least our version of like a billy graham and i actually don't know that much about billy graham but i'm pretty sure billy graham was telling you to turn burn at the end of the day which was kind of as good as we could do at that time. You know what i mean given the. He's he's dad was probably born in one thousand nine hundred fifteen for say like he could have been yeah. It's just remarkable. That he was doing as well as he was that he has that much connection with love and compassion and stuff. So it makes sense that this other billy graham type would would move in that direction if that makes them. Yeah yeah so but the tricky thing is that it's both so it is you are it takes time to get to the timeless and you can only ever find debt right now. That's that's it that's exactly right. Both things are true and that like brakes your brain and guess what it's that it's meant to. It's not forty by little by little. Yeah it's it's good. It's a good sign that our brain can't hold both of those truths because it's not for your brain ahead and get out of there that's right that's and that's what Richard roy says father richie. He says like the human mind can't comprehend divine love so don't try. Yeah human the human imagination will always be balancing will always be beheading will always be incarcerating punishing and whipping. It's what the brain does goes. This is ugly. That's bill this wall and we'll put the bad people on the other side of it and even here we'll even torture and kill our own bedroom because we were not up to snuff even in our own little utopia we're not up to snuff. That's what we're all doing. And we don't accept infinite grace or infinite love. Yeah or like our brain is our brain. Is i like to think of my brain as a a neurotic Well meaning overprotective mother. Looks good and so it's just not it's it just doesn't trust unconditional love. That's right so it's not like it's trying to deprive you of that or it's trying to keep you in in a dark place for the sake of keeping you in a dark place it ultimately is maybe the ego is and the ego uses the thinking mind daughter fear out of fear. But i feel like you're thinking even your ego is trying to keep you alive in the way that thinks meant to keep keep existing at all costs right whichever you said you were like. Even fear is love. Yeah because fear just wants you to exist. Yeah so we like really the bigger thing that i said about that and i keep going back to it to try to remember it. Is we ultimately. When i'm in a fearful place. I will go. Okay how do i know that the world is a benevolent is ultimately a benevolent. Like not the world the existent every this reality everything is ultimately benevolent. And some would argue. It's it's not some would argue quite rightly that it is a a swirl it's both energies and that's true the world not in this reality is like it is containing both energies. I choose to believe that ultimately it's all held and love remain the forested animating both energy is is ultimately loving. Yes exactly thank you for putting that better than i could And and sometimes i really. I doubt that. Especially if i'm in a fearful place like maybe this is just a very weird accident and this is super unfriendly existence. But what's helped me. When i do that is and this is something that my brain came up with. So thank you brain. It's not all shit in there. Your brain is hosting the guess right now. I love you bread. Yeah what else. Noah can handle it. It's way rougher with me. I am with that. So that's so true But it's like okay so so is the world of friendlier unfriendly place. When i'm in a fearful place. I can see all of the things. That's that are unfriendly about it. So look at those unfriendly things. What is happening there. What's causing person to do. A damaging thing to another person for example fear and what is underneath. Fear your body wanting to keep you alive. That's love that's right and the fear is built out of a misunderstanding of who you really are. Yeah so someone tells you you belong to this group this race this country this tribe this belief system. And then you protect it. Yeah so you think you're protecting yourself but you really projecting something else. Yeah and now. Stephen more intense fear like look at the number of things that the fred phelps people hate. And that's this weird here so they. They fed the fear even more nonsense. And then you're afraid of things that we're looking at like i'm afraid of crossing the highway at night you know. And that's an easier example. That fear does want to keep you alive and then the fear can get perverted can get exaggerated. Kim get over fed over stimulated. And it's not just by itself. It's not just by the brain but it's your culture. It's your twitter feed. It's your instagram feed. It's your tick-tock feed your friends. It's the books reading the movies..
"fred phelps" Discussed on Relevant Podcast
"Revenues where we tell you what's happening at the intersection of faith and culture. Tweak tyler is our senior editor and is covering all that stuff on our site and our socials What's going on this weekend all right so this was. This is story that they came across. That i love. I love your take on because it brought to mind a few to two entities. One of whom. I really hadn't thought about very much in a long time and that entity is a summit. I don't like to give a lot of airtime but we do need to talk for a minute about westboro baptist church. I'd imagine we're all pretty familiar with the they're still around church and yeah i know i kind of thought that they head and i don't think around this church in quotation. Yeah they're not. They're not the same cultural force. They were two thousand eleven thousand. Tell i feel like those. Those guys were everywhere and they were you know they do show up at like soldiers funerals and various generally good things and they really just like to cause problems with very angry signs about how much god hates america and hates you and a judgment is coming in and it really felt like a very performance of trolling form of of like quote unquote christianity. I think we're all pretty familiar with them. They really since their founder. Fred phelps away. They have not had the same region. I think most news organizations have very wisely including relevant chosen to ignore them for the most part. And that's the best thing you can do the that we are talking about them. Today is because day at evidently are in a long standing feud with the foo fighters Dave grohl and the rest of his band whenever there in kansas westboro shows up signs and they start protesting the foo fighters concert. And i don't know what it is you know. They don't really need a reason. But i don't know what the foo fighters exactly do. That makes them think that god hates the foo fighters especially but that they have heaven's gates hell's flames man day rock just a little too hard. He's got the long hair. Yeah he rocks a little too hard. He rocks harder than other fans..
"fred phelps" Discussed on The ChoNilla Podcast
"Westboro church. You should be. It's good for them these. They'd say they love them and And should be dan. Seeing some of them started dancing. All right but I can't believe this church is still going fred. Phelps i think was the The leader and he died not too long ago and his one of his daughters picked up the reins but one of his daughters left at church. Yeah yeah yeah in talking about like everything about that. Church how they operate with what they believe. She's been interviewed by a bunch of atheist and stuff. Yeah that's it for the news. Any oh right boy reaches out to one now. You have your bible handy oh electronically no by the scripture and went out and it's part of the terminal podcast share with shirley and you the listener rival so far and hair you by trying to make it sound all eh cheese shipped. So last time i heard about soggy museum a medium to talk to send the spirit and also we heard about salt hearing about how he's gonna die from that god is from yes. Okay so we're doing the first book of samuel chapter twenty nine. I call this. It's not new. It's them So we fade from ear and we open on a place called affect Where the philistines are preparing for battle against the israelites. Okay and we find out that the israeli israelite army is Also preparing for battle to fight the philistines okay. So they're both like we're doing this as the philistine. Army is marching into battle. We find out that david. Along with the king quiche and all his commanders are marching behind. All the soldiers in their army. The commander start gossiping with each other. And begin to worry about david fighting alongside them and are all like a-a-a quiche. So we've been thinking and david fighting with us might not be such a good idea kind of an israelite and who's to say. He won't turn on us when we start fighting his people's so a key seemed confused by this is all i wait what guys come on. It's david young. He's my right hand guy and he's been fighting with us for over a year now not to mention has already killed a bunch of people to stay cool with us but it keys could see that. He was not swinging as commander buddies and they were all like a now. My guy you need to tell him to sit this one out and go back to zik lag for awhile. You can't come with us this time because we totally think he's gonna backstab as okay. We're also tired of hearing those stupid songs. About how killed more people than you. That's it a know how killed more people than saw that. Should is getting oldest. Fuck oh yeah. I think that's what it was. I think the song was like saul killed. More people saying that's what i saw was trying to kill anybody because he was jealous accused david side as they are marching in his. All david You gotta sit this one out bro. it's not you it's these guys. I know you're dope but my commanders are worried. You're going to side with the israelites. Once the fighting starts so you got to go back to zigzag hang out there for a while while we fight. Just don't do anything upset. my commanders. Okay said david was super disappointed and all like still me what he did wrong. Bro you king. I can't just go back to the lane you gave me and do nothing so keys sees dave is getting agitated as all lake. Listen fam- we're gonna we're gonna camp out here for the night and you can hang out for a while but you gotta go before we head out again at sunrise so david looks super sad for the entire night and first thing in the morning grabbed dollars gear rounded up all his men and kicked rocks all the way back to zik leg. Oh so they can't stay no no they can't because people other people. The commanders are like you know hayes israelite zine like turn on us. Once we start fighting the israelites. Oh so That's it for this chapter. Through a literary analysis by yale shemesh in a vitas test him journal. It is no. It is shown that david is not depicted as Intending to betray solid israel on the contrary the narrator provides many hints that the philistine commanders. Assessment david is correct and that he had not been sent away he would have fought against the philistines and for israel. So there's there's like documentation in this journal. Called best is testament him. Okay which is like the leading place you go when you want to learn about old testament. Shit i really. Yeah yeah yeah. So there's there's like papers in there like that argue like now. David never fought with the philistines crazy. So okay so quiche people are. Phyllis are from the philistines. Yes she is. He's the king of a place called gaffe. Okay which is predominantly fifteen philistine place. Yeah and david is an israelite correct. So they're planning to the keys. Commanders replanning that they have the whole plan for while that they're going to attack israel age and they're gonna use david. Yeah oh yeah. David i gotta make him my buddy. I don't think david would like. I think they're right though. Do you think yeah. I think david would have not like wait. These people i have no idea i just. I'm just here to tell the stories. We said okay so when david just to kind of go back. When david fought goliath glide with was team phyllis was hosting. Yeah and he waits with saul at the time so solid sees israelites. Yeah okay the. The appointed divinely appointed king of the israel. Right then right. He got jealous. Because david everybody's just he's just charismatic songs about him like oh my god songs about him beat a big giant okay. So so now because hunting him. He was running away from any found refuge in philistine country. God it okay. Okay okay but then. The commanders are questioning. What's his loyalty right right. Yeah okay and his men predominantly israelite got it got it. Okay since nineteen fifty one. The is test. Demento journals have been generally recognized to be indisp- an to be an indispensable indispensable for scholarly work on the old testament. So david knows the lakisha told. David look like commanders are concerned because you're an israelite and he's like no man i'm like it's i'm totally down for the first time. Oh yeah for a while now anyways. So when he's been fighting that means they would go and attack different places and some of those places are israelite places. David was right there with them. He was right alongside. Wow so you're just getting jealous to like saul.
"fred phelps" Discussed on Heartland Newsfeed Radio Network
"And listen to man is yeah let everybody listen. The usa radio network presents the greatest radio programs of all time in the cbs radio workshop. Dedicated to man's immagination the theater of the mind. This is classic. Radio theatre want to get away from it all the fbi. He's in war. Mcgee the unexpected. The unexpected the unexpected. Now here's your host. Why talks evening friend. Well on this friday we head to wistful check out. What's going on in the household of fibber mcgee and molly. This was originally broadcast seventy five years ago. March nineteenth nineteen forty six as fibber tries to handle the whistleblower drive. Oh dear we thank you for tuning in on this friday. Nineteen th day of march seventy eighth day of the year. Two hundred eighty seven days remaining until we get to twenty Twenty two And this usually is the last day of winter. The city bank of new york became the site of the first bank robbery on this date. 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Business by the brand new cable television network c-span solution for the lack of confidence in government. Mr speaker is more open government at all levels. I hope for example that the leadership of the united states senate. We'll see this as a friendly challenge to begin to open their gentleman's time. Is this the first speaker. Viewed on c. span then congressman al gore tennessee. I it was on this date in one thousand nine hundred eighty six a royal engagement news prince. Andrew i'm sarah ferguson are engaged buckingham palace on news. The state from the palace reads. It is with the greatest of pleasure that the queen the duke of edinburgh and honestly betrothal of their beloved son prince andrew to miss sarah ferguson daughter of major ronald ferguson. And mrs hectic around his later prince andrew would tell the media how it happened. I asked sarah some weeks ago. And sarah actually said yes. Surprise surprise me. He probably saying. I thought you'd never ask. Sadly the royal marriage didn't last. They separated in one thousand nine hundred ninety two divorced in nineteen ninety-six but became engaged on this date in one thousand nine hundred eighty six. A scandal came to a head on this date in one thousand. Nine hundred. eighty. Seven as jim bakker resigned from the pto club his wife and co host on the show cami faye bakker spoke to viewers to tell the people that really love them. We're very sad right now. We're driving them jim. We'll be back soon and he's going to give everyone a statement you'll be back very soon and he will be can come back and explain what happened and that won't be too long from now. So thank you for being patient. Now between money woes with bakker's heritage say and the sex scandal involving church secretary. Jessica hahn baker had no choice but to resign televangelist. Jerry falwell took over operations of the pto club and condemn baker. He needs to come. Clean about jessica. Hahn repent that little girl. Nineteen twenty years of age in my opinion was injured for life by that terrible travesty in florida he needs to come forward so yes i did. And i've asked god's forgiveness he needs to say to. Jessica please forgive me. That's the christian approach. Baker is remarried and back on television operation. Anaconda ended on this date in two thousand two after killing five hundred taliban and al-qaeda fighters with eleven allied troop fatalities in two thousand and three president. George w bush announced the start the military campaign against iraq in a televised address from the white house on my orders. Coalition forces have begun striking selected targets of military importance to undermine saddam hussein's ability to wage war. The strike called a decapitation attack aimed at sedate hussein and other members of iraq's leadership in twenty eleven after the you're moammar gadhafi's forces to take benghazi french. Air force launched operation harmattan foreign military intervention in libya and in two thousand thirteen a series of bombings and shootings killed at least ninety eight people and injured two hundred forty others across iraq among those passing away on this date in history. The man who brought tarzan to light author edgar rice burroughs. The chief edward platt from get smart auto engineer. John delorean larry. Bud melman on the letterman. Show calvert deforest r. and b. soul singer luther ingram science fiction novelist. Arthur c. clarke and the man who founded the westboro baptist church. Fred phelps. this is the birth date of the man who believe it or not is kinda sorta maybe not really but could be my namesake. Wyatt urp the story. I was always told was that my mother named me after hugh o'brian who played wider on television. She doesn't want to call me hugh and since we lived in kansas the time why it made sense. Comedian moms mabley. Oh such a delightfully funny lady. 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"fred phelps" Discussed on Newsradio 700 WLW
"New faces drinking moonshine with the wind, baby. We'll take that as a no. And see what happens when this occurred. My people from bent right those were your guys. This isn't good. Give me your first name to give me your opinion. John, Southeast Ohio and heck, no Okay. We'll count that as a no. Then I'm waiting for a yes. Yes or no? Should we keep covering the wind on Tuesday and Thursday at two o'clock deadline, Fran and Mike Magoo has got to go. We'll take that as a no. Give me your first name. Give me your opinion. This is Reverend Fred Phelps. L know references. I never liked that guy. I don't like that guy. But give me your first name. Yea or nay. Hey, thank you, guys. Thank you. We'll take two or three more. Yes or no on the wind Tuesday and Thursday. What do you say? They'll know I can't really far. Last call on this one. Yes or no? On Mike DeWine. Mats Diamond says yes. What do you say Jeff from Dayton, Ohio. A big fat, No roll a big fat when I want that zero. It's 80. If I kept taking calls, it would be 1000. Zero. So if he says something important Jack Crumley or monitor, it will go into it. So tonight's big game Rock Brown's Bangles on watching all the action this morning. They're saying this is the moment beggar Mayfield is gonna organist Correct three years. This is third year. This is it. He's got the tools on offense He's got the long sign is on defense. This is it, and their favorite by six will get you the excuse last week. It was. The Ravens are arguably the best team in the NFL when he's had a bunch of different coordinators and coaches and whatnot, but at some point Rubber has to meet the road and he has got to come in and have a good game. It's so going to be decided if he's you know, Joe Burrow comes out of this game, and he's the best quarterback. Well, you're a Cleveland fan. You're like we don't have the right guy. He's not the guy, one of they an opening day games for them in like 1, 21 and one or something awful. This is it bad. What's on the big show today? If anything wrong policy. We have skinny Ryan the gate at three talks from Red's talks and Bangles Battle of Ohio and I like him. I like these great and then we have Your man Dusty rose. The American dream will join us to talk about why he's being shunned by the Democratic Party and endorsing Bruce off power for sheriff. The King has shunted me shunned, shunned, and all he does is win elections for like 70% of the vote, right? That doesn't count way Don't want that. Let's take a short break. When we continue, Sergeant Ebony Leon will be here about why young African American females. Especially to join the military and the military changed her life. Is that correct? Meant Sergeant toe Ebony Leon. Let's continue with more Bill Cunningham 700 w out of you. It's time to add another vocal spice to your linguistic linguini. Thiss is the word of the day if virgin adjective meaning, shining brightly and radiant. Now let's use it in a sentence Visiting to like McConnell puts in a fortune smile on my face, So just half price for optimum success. Be sure they use your new word And be sure to start your day with Mike McConnell join me Mike McConnell tomorrow morning. Five on 700 wlw tomorrow.
"fred phelps" Discussed on C-SPAN Radio
"And authors every weekend book TV television for serious readers from last November a conversation with Meghan Phelps Roper part of the Miami book fair but joining us now on book TV is Megan Phelps Roper she is the author of this book unfollow a memoir of loving and leaving the Westboro Baptist church ms Phelps Roper where did you grow up in house I grew up in Topeka Kansas at the Westboro Baptist church and church was started by my grandfather and consists almost entirely of my extended family and you know I at west pro I mean we had our this normal life in some ways you know I would just public school play video games made cookies with my parents you know is all you know wonderful memories but then there was this our lives were organized around this picketing ministry so from the age of five I went out to protest gave people originally and then from there it morph to everyone outside of our church was headed for hell and we had a duty to go and and warn them of the consequences of their sins in our whole lives were organized around a ministry is so how did the ticketing ministry begin if you talk about this loving family that you have a normal childhood when did the god hates **** signs come so in nineteen ninety one when I was five years old an incident occurred or actually it happens really before that an incident happened at a local park where my grandfather was making the park and he thought he saw my my older brother who was then about four or five years old being approached by two men trying to lure him into the bushes and he discovered that the local park was a place is well known for as a meeting place for gay men and so he went and started trying to get the city to the cleanup Gage park so it started out grants called my grandfather called it the great gates for decency dries and but even if those very first protest you know we had a a sign that said gays are worthy of death and then cited this Bible passage Romans one thirty two and almost immediately again this that the response to the to the to the to that very first protest was outrage from the community people came out you know local churches came out to counter protest and said things like gods love speaks the loudest so the response to west rose ministry was always negative and I was taught that that was a good thing you know Jesus said you know blessed are you when men will hate you and revile you and persecute you and say all manner of evil against you falsely for my name's sake they hated they hated me they're going to hate you anybody who speaks the word of god will be hated so I learned from a very young age that we were the good guys and everyone else they were the bad guys and we had a duty to go in and tell them what god required of them what was Fred Phelps like as a grandfather he was a loving and sweet and funny and so you know he he was that fire and brimstone preacher that you know you could hear in the sermons and you know see see it in interviews like obviously is a very passionate believers zealous believer and and everything that he preached but he was also a loving grandfather who and I I absolutely he adored and I I if I missed him terribly after last what was the Phelps family reputation in Topeka and you talked about playing video games and having friends yeah did other parents say stay away from me Megan Phelps yeah I mean so we didn't really we had a queens the school if we were we were supposed to our parents resisting to be polite and friendly and and good students to help others with their homework things like that and so we had the the queen says but again I started protesting before I started kindergarten so I grew up with you know this cohort of of classmates who who knew what I was gonna be outside of their churches and an outside of the performing arts center when they you know had the nutcracker performance of The Nutcracker something so we were constantly protesting the same people that I was going to school and then by the time I got to high school I actually would leave class you know at the lunch lunch period across the street and pick at my high school during lunch as my classmates are driving by you know sometimes screaming and throwing things and and things like that so there was always a sense of otherness the sense of us versus them like we might be required to sit in class together and and to you know to play nice for awhile but I understood that I couldn't trust them that I need to keep them at arm's length and and of course I didn't have to work very hard to do that because you know for the most part people didn't once you know than one because to us did you revel in your otherness yeah for the most part I mean there there there could be times where it could be a little bit a little bit awkward but for the most part I I saw it as inevitable like if I was going to serve god if I was going to do my duty to my fellow man then I was going to be hated and because I was raised in that environment it seems normal it seems like just just you know another fact of life that I needed so assembling and the numbers are up on the screen if you'd like to participate in our conversation this afternoon with Megan Phelps Roper formerly of the Westboro Baptist church and in November twenty twelve what happened I left I had gotten on Twitter a few years before that and I started having conversations with people there you're the social media director basically for west for all right yeah it wasn't a formal position it was just something you know I saw I learned about Twitter I read an article about it on CNN dot com and and thought it was a place for me to go and spread our message to another audience and I ended up being changed far more I think than the people that I that I was trying to preach to no there was the same kind of hostility and consultation that I experience on the picket line but there was also this group of individuals who started asking me questions and having a real conversation with me even even the people who started out you know with the instinct following instinct to to shame me and to and to try to you know isolate me into it you know make me think I was a bad person they realized pretty quickly that I was sincere that I really believe in the value of what I was doing in the goodness and the righteousness of what I was doing and so they got curious and in starting these conversations with me they were able to really dig into the you know in these in depth questions to understand was froze the ology and they were able to find these internal inconsistencies in our doctrines and that for me that was the first time I was able to see that that we could be wrong that was for about this church does not in fact have a monopoly on truth the only you know the truth of god so so it was mind one for me and that was the kind of the thread that began to unravel eventually unravel the whole the whole system for me could you raise those questions to your grandfather grandmother or your parents I did see some people in you know I did to my my mother I think more than anyone and the problem was because because of how in a west rose again they their whole lives are are organized around west rose ministry and because they have taken such a public position on all those issues the idea of changing your mind it is it is anathema like even if they do change their mind certainly I mean almost never talk about it quickly because they think it would cast you know some kind of doubt upon the rest of their message so it is is something that is it's very hard to change your mind about something to acknowledge that you are wrong about something that you have been sold so passionately preaching for so long and so I was I I tried to you know in kind of a cautious way and that the response was so visceral is so negative that it terrified me and so I kind of in a compartmentalized and I start with the questions the signs that questions about and and doubts and then ultimately that I rejected I stopped holding those picket signs but I didn't feel like I could be completely open I thought okay well just these few issues and the rest of Westeros preaching is right eventually I came to I came to realize like you know if we're wrong about all these things why do I think why do I just accepted the rest of this is true and that kind of open the door to bigger questions about the ideology as a whole how many members of Westboro how many have left with its first like the membership has stayed largely the same for as long as I can remember it between seventy and eighty people or sounds less than a hundred and even with that so the number of people who have left several a few dozen at this point but they have had a few converts from the outside and then also young children being born into it so so now it's my generation having children is that they are going to be raising and that are harmed let's hear from our viewers and let's begin with a call from Jordan in Alpharetta Georgia Jordan you're on with Megan Phelps Roper on follow is the name of the book question may I just wanted to ask you what exactly with the moment that catalyze your decision to leave always your feel some remorse I'm I I'm I'm having a little trouble hearing you are you saying like what is what what what because mine yeah what catalyzed thank you Jordan and I just reminder to viewers were gonna leave Jordan there reminder to viewers speak clearly into your phone it makes it a lot easier but what catalyze you to leave us what he wants to so it started with a question about a sign that and know what these people on Twitter David Abbott falls who read a blog called to licious raise this question he asked me about a picket sign that the death penalty for fax so we were calling for the death penalty for gay people because of this passage in the book of Leviticus and he pointed to two two situations first he said that you know about Jesus like didn't Jesus say let he who is without sin cast the first stone and I gave it the the response that I that we had low always learn together was for which was we're not casting stones were preaching words in David gave the very obvious response that yes but you're advocating that the government cast stones and that was the first time I realized that that quote from Jesus wasn't just a general call to humility he was specifically talking about the death penalty and so I kind of set me back from it and then he also said didn't your mother have a child your oldest brother out of wedlock and you know it is it is not that's another send the deserves the death penalty as it is and so I that was the first time I I thought to the fact that you know my mother had we we would say that she didn't deserve that punishment because she had repented and that if you kill somebody as soon as they send you completely cut off the opportunity to repent and be forgiven and so this you know these two points that he made you know again this is one of those I couldn't acknowledge it to him at the time or even probably in my own mind to acknowledge that that we could be wrong about something so that was what started me down the path of questioning from last November a conversation with Meghan culture over part of the Miami book then you know that her started doing things that I believe run scriptural a group of a group of men kind of took over the decision making process of the church and that was contrary to the established pattern from the Bible and they started doing things like lying in a photo shopping themselves a protest that they were they had not actually been on and and claiming it out to and so that that was part of it too they just the realization and ultimately the question became bigger so I knew before I left I realized we I came upon this passage no we were praying for people to die the based on things that were king David you know prayed for his enemies children to be fatherless and for their wives to be windows so I was raised in this culture the celebrated death and tragedy and then came to realize that there are passages in the New Testament where Jesus says love your enemies bless them that persecute you and then the apostle Paul saying bless and curse not so we were doing these things I came to believe run scriptural and and protesting funerals things like that that I believe were wrong according to the Bible itself it was west pro failing to live up to its own standards that was where you know I I eventually came so came to realize like it is.
"fred phelps" Discussed on KGO 810
"Their religious beliefs that is the most ridiculous thing I've heard in my life you know I mean think about what this affects evolution it really has to do with his evolution we can also affect math because member with Jesus and the lows in the fish's he's a set one play the fed thousands stop I mean well I mean it has I but I was reading on the articles and of course it has to do with evolution I ate it everywhere every single Republican in their house voted it through and now moves a Republican controlled Senate now the first thing I thought of us call my friend Mike Larson who is running against him Jordan and I want to go how can you possibly win in that state but now it's a gerrymandered state and you know my sister lives in Columbus and my sister is like my sisters are crazy that they're older me right my I've older sisters for sisters and the two of them burned their bras back in the sixties I did that whole thing right you know they ten a you know what I'm gonna rested and my camera the stories my dad being all upset you know but yeah the idea that religion should any be anywhere near the same conversation with science and with evolution do you does anybody know anybody that doesn't believe in evolution or that this is the I mean because you know here's my favorite thing with people go the people vote for monkeys in how come they're still monkeys but you know I think that one of the things about about evolution that is hard for people to understand is the timetable we're talking about we're not talking about a few years we're talking about hundreds of thousands if not millions of years I mean dinosaurs were around sixty five million years ago that's almost as long as it takes me to get out of the city during rush hour but it's a long time sixty five million is now in that period of time you know we are we had apparently that then asteroid hit the Yucatan peninsula in you know that's what because the you know the the cockroaches and all the other things to come back in an essay and essentially what happened is with evolution again I'm not a biologist or a scientist right although I did stay at a Holiday I will tell you that it's not easy to prove but that makes it even greater science and explain this okay see science works like this you keep working and then other scientists compare the work and they find mistakes they push the mistakes out and move towards the truth so is evolution as a science completely finished of course not but we know what we know you know and and that and that part is to me that's the most frustrating aspect when I hear that Ohio will allow kids to bring religion and to replace our science which religion I mean it can it can just be like you know I believe in the religion of whatever the heck now I'm sure it'll be like Christianity the probably listed out I mean well I mean but then it doesn't that's it that's inhibiting religious freedom then so there are already violating the law on which they're using to change the law to allow the students to put the wrong answers on their test because of religious beliefs so now you're saying only religious policemen all religious beliefs because you have to believe in a certain religion to be able to mark your test wrong because of your religious beliefs it's ridiculous well I mean I I it's has to be so you know the the stories we have today I mean I'm a couple stories on it and they don't go too deep into it and I part of me thinks the people I this I've done this before lot of people are afraid of religious evangelicals you know I mean I'm I'm the kind of the I went up to the you know the Fred Phelps people before and got right in their faces you know because it again there when they're calling you know that when they're outside a funeral of you know soldier or somebody you know unbelievable but anyway I think that here's the thing is that science is is not for people who are not adventurous science is about making mistakes and learning right I'm a mammoth member all the store the the videos of people trying to learn to fly and jumping off with their feelings and stuff like that you know it was in its of Greeley great story in its right brothers was written by the guy that wrote I want to say I'll I'll look it up McCullough I believe com how can look it up we have the rifles really does your faster that the fight would you want me to look up at the right who's the author because in in that book he found out that Orville Wright I know will already should Wilbur Wright was when they figured out the exact angle the color McCullough that the the plane's wing at to be to get left right anyone that anybody take photographs of it because it took him forever to figure out these guys are just bicycle makers but they got it together they figured out in the whole world was trying to figure out how to fly it was a little teeny thing was science and people tried a lot of people died and was a but they figured out it was about lift and drag and all those things that the teacher in physics but it's not easy show when this when Ohio's can allow teachers or to allow kids exemptions from failure because they're gonna bring up whatever kind of crazy religious stuff and let's be honest okay just the whole story from the Bible most summer back as crazy stories right I mean I definitely get the New Testament turn the other cheek Judeo Christian values I totally do but everything else I mean you don't the virgin Mary makes no sense the most is the burning their place for all this kind of religion all this kind of education there's a religious education where you study of the different religions and you can choose to believe or not but I think that the sciences even if your religion counters whatever you're being taught in your science class take it in under take it like a religious class take like okay this is what quote unquote they believe and then be tested on that knowledge I mean you might not personally believe in evolution because your religion tell you something opposite but if I'm a teacher teaching science you don't know the facts of evolution which is what I am teaching yeah I mean they don't know they can't even take take be given a test on this because it goes against their religious beliefs is a cop out well they think that the flinstones is a documentary okay I mean this is the they believe that we lived with dinosaurs anyway so the again of the world is six thousand years on all this stuff by counting the number of people the Bible and adding their ages up I mean this three thousand I'm I went to Catholic schools and here's what we learnt I swear I was just simple right a good person because bad people go to hell they didn't really describe hello just said hello is where you don't want to go when you die heaven is what you what you want but you should be good just because it's good to be going and they were just wonderful people I don't get molested I you know I I their folk medicine in church I wanted to go to mass because they sang songs and stuff I mean you know later on when I hit adolescence and starts talking about masturbation those are like whoa whoa whoa but when I was a kid growing up man it was none of this crazy stuff and I went to Catholic school like you know our lives right yeah and not you know and I came out of it I think better for it even though it mu people that are Catholic a listen to me probably don't think so I can I can I said of the thousand times on the show that it saved my life you know it was a wonderful way to grow up but this is insane why get if you just joined us the Ohio legislature that the the Republicans all voted on a percent for the student religious liberties act under the law students cannot be penalized if the work is scientifically wrong as long as the reasoning is because of their religious beliefs that is so insane go to my concern arose a Mike what do you think ma'am III chip it is insane and I just want to make sure that you get an answer to the question you threw out there real quick is there really anybody this still doesn't believe in haven't evolution anymore it is an unequivocal yes they're called evangelical Tennessee in the country is all of them and they also diametrically done now James science and all other science I am not afraid of them personally I have lots of you via teleconference that I love they know I'm an atheist I know they're bad that's crazy thank you Hey what I am afraid of is the political power they are wielding in this country right now well and what worries me as I just got I just started to read that a biography of tense and and it's it's pretty frightening what he believes because he calls himself a Christian conservative and a politician in that order and that if you can still hear me I'm gonna tell yeah I've studied extensively the world's religions and the teachings of their their wondrous beautiful things and all the world's religions there are disastrous we've vicious things in all of the world's religions and contemporary evangelical even a jealous as I'm in the United States has about as much to do with the teachings of Christ as yeah yeah yeah I I don't I know exactly what you're saying yeah yeah they are yeah and it is one of the great iron would roll over yeah it is one of the great ironies that people that profess to be Christians often times are the farthest thing away from the teachings that you can get the New Testament I I totally get that I just think that is there so much money and it is well and you get a you get that these control Osteen guys that have these temples in there that are the size of football stadiums and they're making you know tens of millions of dollars of these poor people ever Ernest angel Hey anyway all the people on TV what a great scam right all but but isn't isn't a Conyers last going to Joel schemes cathedral is it really union made in speaker haven't it's not funny I lore good lord hi thanks for the call buddy appreciate a man I'm yeah I I this release should me is not really about religion right it's about science and it's like you know I mean no it's also about denying fax it's also about well you know it's it's it's it's this age that we're in we're if we don't like what we hear or to place before us we put on blinders we put in the ear plugs and we say now and that's not the world we used to live in we used to allow and I I I I know what is the alternative facts but alternative believes it will likely you can still hold them in you could still be a sane person you can still believe in religion and still have your child learn about evolution those things you know were able to happen it's like we've lost our minds I don't get it well you know I I think that it it frightens people science when you start to get you know I mean it's when people start talking and and I mean this is this goes way back I mean the Catholic Church toll Galileo the after an ounce all science you know and he was looking at the stars and seeing the stars just like our son and that did not go down well Michael Hey you're on the chip in Nikki what's up I just want to share when the state must get all of this it's going to be whole areas your kids will be able to write whatever they want you know in Florida they wind up this school district what's up saying that is online I think I'm I'm but now I I.
"fred phelps" Discussed on KOMO
"Hour news station como news one thousand and ninety seven seven a young woman named Meghan Phelps Roper began protesting alleged vices as a member of the Westboro Baptist church in Kansas the church founded by her grandfather Fred Phelps who is known for showing up at funerals of gay men and women with large signs protesting homosexuality after several exchanges with people on Twitter Megan began to question the beliefs and practices of the Westboro Baptist church finally she decided to leave Megan's out with a new memoir called on follow recounting her departure from her family's church and the backlash she was met with upon leaving ABC talk with her about the book this week what's the deal with the Westboro Baptist church let's start there I mean it we when they first surfaced people like what is up with this church so so tell us about the church and what they do when they go to the funerals of people who are gay or just go ahead so the west registered was started by my grandfather and it consists almost entirely of my extended family so as my grandparents their children grandchildren and now they're great grand children they believe that the Bible is the literal and infallible word of god and that their interpretation of it their understanding of it is essentially infallible as well they believe that they are right and everybody else's interpretation understanding of the Bible is wrong and that it was our duty that it was literally the fulfillment of god's commandment to love thy neighbor as myself to go and warn people of the consequences of their sins my grandfather and the other church members who would look across the landscape of primarily America but later the world also and see other things that people were doing that we're sinful and everybody is eventually it started out being about gay people that eventually everyone outside the church was a legitimate target they were sinners and Hellbound and we had to go warn them so they get a chance to repent and change their ways and go to heaven like us okay so let's talk about you going wait a minute this is wrong it you figured it out on Twitter at at that how does that work yes so I got on Twitter to spread the church's message it was originally a way of whatnot proselytising they don't really they're not trying to persuade people just trying to preach so I saw this as this another potential preaching tool and so I started you know attacking people almost immediately they know when it when I got on and the way people responded initially was largely similar to the way they respond on the picket line which was full of hostility in contention which is completely understandable given that the provocation of our message but then there was this group of people who responded with empathy and compassion who were able to see that I it was sincere that I really believe that what we were doing was the work of god and they had compassion on me and they started asking questions and kind of you know getting into the nuances of our theology they were able to find these internal inconsistencies and for me that was mind blowing because I I basically saw Westboro is having a monopoly on truth and so the realization and I should say also my family is full of lawyers they're very intelligent analytical people and so and I've been answering questions about our our ideology all my life from the age of five standing on the picket line onward I was trained to do this we memory we talked about the Bible every day we memorized versus all the time so it was a huge part of my vocabulary my worldview and so to find out how these people find internal inconsistencies was mind line because it made me realize like all my god we can be wrong about something and if so what was that conversation like with the family when you said Hey guys I got someone to tell yet here I'd not sure I believe this anymore also it was originally like this relatively small point of theology this this because the first contradiction that came back I take it to my mom and a couple other older church members and and I felt like you know the response was so intensely negative it scared me and made me feel like I was the one in the wrong and and the responses so negative and they're they're not addressing the.
"fred phelps" Discussed on WNYC 93.9 FM
"Like the rest of my ten siblings I believe what I was taught with all my heart and I pursued west for his agenda was a special sort of CO for people who don't know anything about Westboro Baptist church what how big is it west rose at church of about seventy to eighty people wow so small yes most of them are my immediate and extended family it was started by my grandfather Fred Phelps and my family was incredibly close so I was surrounded by people who loves me and whom I loved and I was convinced that we were right one one of the first time you were confronted with somebody from like outside your bubble you know who challenge your views who wanted to actually talk to you talk to you about you know the way you felt and and and want to try to convince you that you were wrong I encountered a lot of people over the years who who wanted to challenge my ideas and the church's ideas but the problem was that in us when you're standing on a picket line even if even if you have somebody who really wants to have a dialogue it's really hard to get past you know shouty talking points I have been raised to be wary of these people right and into even especially be wary of their kindness because then there you know you you sort of see the miss crafty deceivers like people who are just trying to you know sweet talk you into into doing the wrong thing.
"fred phelps" Discussed on KQED Radio
"Like the rest of my ten siblings I believe what I was taught with all my heart and I pursued was for his agenda was a special sort of zero for people who don't know anything about Westboro Baptist church what how big is it west rose at church of about seventy to eighty people wow so small yes most of them are my immediate and extended family it was started by my grandfather Fred Phelps and my family was incredibly close so I was surrounded by people who loves me and whom I love and I was convinced that we were right one when was the first time you were confronted with somebody from like outside your bubble you know who challenge your views who wanted to actually talk to you talk to you about you know the way you felt and and and want to try to convince you that you were wrong I encountered a lot of people over the years who who wanted to challenge my ideas and the church's ideas but the problem was that in us when you're standing on a picket line even if even if you have somebody who really wants to have a dialogue it's really hard to get past you know Shelly talking points I have been raised to be wary of these people right and into even especially be wary of their kindness because then there you know you sort of see this crafty deceivers like people who are just trying to you know sweet talk you into into doing the wrong thing and.
"fred phelps" Discussed on WNYC 93.9 FM
"Like the rest of my ten siblings I believe what I was taught with all my heart and I pursued west for his agenda was a special sort of zero for people who don't know anything about Westboro Baptist church what how big is it west rose at church of about seventy to eighty people wow so small yes most of them are my immediate and extended family it was started by my grandfather Fred Phelps and my family was incredibly close so I was surrounded by people who loves me and whom I left and I was convinced that we were right one when was the first time you were confronted with somebody from like outside your bubble you know who challenge your views who wanted to actually talk to talk to you about you know the way you felt and and and want to try to convince you that you were wrong I encountered a lot of people over the years who who wanted to challenge my ideas and the church's ideas but the problem was that in us when you're standing on a picket line even if even if you have somebody who really wants to have a dialogue it's really hard to get past you know shouty talking points I have been raised to be wary of these people right and into even especially be wary of their kindness because then there you know you sort of see them as crafty deceivers like people who are just trying to you know sweet talk you into into doing the wrong thing and.
"fred phelps" Discussed on KQED Radio
"Across the country this was the focus of our whole life this was the only way for me to do good in a world that sets in Satan's lap and like the rest of my ten siblings I believe what I was taught with all my heart and I pursued west for his agenda was a special sort of zero for people who don't know anything about Westboro Baptist church what how big is it west rose at church of about seventy to eighty people wow so small yes most of them are my immediate and extended family it was started by my grandfather Fred Phelps and my family was incredibly close so I was surrounded by people who loves me and whom I loved and I was convinced that we were right one when was the first time you were confronted with somebody from like outside your bubble you know who challenge your views who wanted to actually talk to talk to you about you know the way you felt and and and want to try to convince you that you were wrong I encountered a lot of people over the years who who wanted to challenge my ideas and the church's ideas but the problem was that in us when you're standing on a picket line even if even if you have somebody who really wants to have a dialogue it's really hard to get past you know shouty talking points I have been raised to be wary of these people right and into even especially be wary of their kindness because then there you know you sort of see the miss crafty deceivers like people who are just trying to you know sweet talk you into into doing the wrong thing and so it wasn't until I got on Twitter the things really started to change for me Twitter yeah because to Twitter is not exactly the place of the people think of.
"fred phelps" Discussed on Neurodivergent
"He shouldn't say that he shouldn't be allowed to have a bake shop and I'm just sitting there thinking. If he's a homophobe I wanNA know so that I can go buy cakes across if joe that owns the Deli or Bob on twitter is racist and hates Taiwanese people. I WanNa know so that I can unsubscribe on follow and go to the next Deli. Yeah take it people think that when you go out and spout also the crazy nonsense since it's GonNa turn the same people crazy. No one's going to look at them ago. You're an idiot in my opinion. That's how a lot of movements are halted or slowed or camps lately. It's it's about having a conversation conversation and even if it's online someone spouting some show on twitter and just to see see people replying and being like you being an idea Ol- what you're saying is really bigoted. It'll something a counter argument about spa other than unlike them hiding underground tunneling tunneling racism and making which sounds crazy I mean that is how white supremacists Antiga and Isis work yeah so how it works and also you know unlikely but they might get all that kind of comments back and cook good no good. I don't believe he exists but I'm going to use expression. Oh Go Robert Smith Roma's Smith. Maybe maybe it. It's a bit wrong about that whole gay saying and maybe my Christian values still don't allow me to respect gay people but maybe I should like keep that outside of my business that might be one good thing comes the situation quickly good example here good example because people do leave causes like that people grind. I'm going to give you one example. You'll hate so Tommy Robinson the D._l.. That was a massive massive thing and he was helped by an even more impressive guy who k. you would like <hes> because he's cool and he's squeaky clean just for <hes> Kay. He is a guy named Maajid Nawaz. He joined an extremist Islamist organisation. I forget the name of it and I do know that it's connected to a group that that became I think the became al Qaeda <hes> captured and he he was put in an Egyptian in prison when he got out he ended up reforming himself and his behavior he <hes> left the Islamist world completely he now runs an organization that helps people get out of <hes> <hes> terrorist kind of situations like like him out and he's working towards reforming Islam to make it a bit more peaceful take some of the harder edges off like he's just an all around awesome guy and he used to be a bad guy bad guys do turn into good guys. Just like guys can turn into bag is also Meggido. AUSE is one hell of a snappy dresser called that sounds really interesting. You should bring a wholesome financial short glossary as legitimate saying should come out. I'll send you some links so now I totally agree that people can reform people can change that perspective even if they still hold some of those big activities switch to low of times come from families and generations especially like farming countries and stuff but yeah like people can progress but if you if they can't get their bizarre opinions out that can be challenged on it yeah it's kind of yeah it doesn't happen all at once either like like still have some bigoted opinions and case in point I listen to. I don't think it's Megan Phelps. Forget which Phelps it is but I like Canasta over three years ago. There was a Dr a daughter Fred Phelps. WHO's the Westboro Baptist Church Guy? Those are the guys that go to the the funerals of gay soldiers who died in combat and hold up big God God hates fags Mags Byrne. Hell saw those guys really easy to tell her bad right yeah well. One of his daughters got out. It's a crazy family church like he's not a big real church. It's a nut so called family. Yeah one of his daughters got out and it was amazing listening to run Sam Harris's podcast talk about the steps she went through to get out that Cetera then recently there was another woman I think also from the Westboro. For a Baptist Church who she had basically just got out and I think she was on Joe Rogan. We're gonna Sam Harris and she kept using terminology that would get her in trouble here so <hes> man. I can't even think of it because my brain doesn't my brain ranges throws all that crap out but old fashioned Christiani <hes> horrible terms like and I don't think she said this but I'm just thinking of a horrible term Tran- yeah transsexual is is not because she actually had keep go. I'm sorry transpeople Sinaia easy. He's just easy because we love you so it's really easy to see other people hating you mines but it's just the terms like her brand is going in the right direction. She's abandoned the hate. She's probably still got some distaste. She's probably still got a bit of a Phobia K.. You can relate you have a penis phobia hate eight men Ni- but it and if if we shut the door on her and if we stopped <hes> their ability to speak and be nuts than they would be this crazy little cult yeah it was super like they'd end up being a suicide cult or something something and though being exposed to other people's opinions and it was twitter that primarily helped her escape because some liberal Nice Guy I think is a journalist started messaging her and they started exchanging because the Westboro Baptist this church. They'll talk to you any excuse they could get to do their thing. They will take so he talked to her and over time they built up a relationship and that's the biggest reason she left the church and if they weren't allowed to spout they're crazy he wouldn't anoma existed. He messaged her and she wouldn't have left the church. We have to listen you have to listen to that bizarre folks and feelings because they make good mean duty ready taped but you know if if if they feel that they're getting listened to than the more willing to listen to us the opposing argument. I just thought that you just gave me the best example for this ever K.. I I'm older than you I. I don't know if you'll remember this stuff but once upon a time there was a show called the daily show hosted by John Stewart. I don't consider the modern daily shows still the same show I love Trevor Noah but <hes> I hate him on that show and I hate that show now but once upon anytime the daily show was this like amazing bastion of sanity and they would have these little bits where they would expose the craziness and the nuts miss of people like it. You know those those kind of BITs. Can you think of any way to describe those kind of BITs 'cause I can't I'm inter interviews segments as though it was a news program where they're doing a special on something. Only you see through that special that those people are laughably insane and stupid and other things wrong. I heard an interview with John Stewart where he was talking about. How people would ask him when they shoot those things like? How do they get them to cooperate? Don't they know that you're going to edit it a and and make them look insane. What do they say when they see the final show and he said almost always they watched the show and think that they came off really good 'cause 'cause 'cause they our house? I love that and that is a perfect example of literally just allowing people to speak and then everyone sees them as ridiculous and I'm running out of words I I'm getting yeah. I get what Oh you say <hes> <hes> I I. I think it's just like the more you interview them. The more they go down the path and that he's going and that just go Nadu's good and you can't look away because it's just so like planet like all these opinions of thing but it's really interesting because there's no urine opinions so it's like I forget people complain this way like on a regular basis flatter Thurs for example Florida office yeah absolutely talk. It's crazy. It's like ah the net flicks anyways I. I'm running out of free speech St Nam <hes>. Do you have any random free speech e questions I think I do. I feel like we've covered some really good topics six shoutout to all the marginalized people that we used as knowledge <hes> recording this podcast half unseeded Algonquin territory uh-huh uh-huh <hes> yeah <hes> this whole time I've been trying to think of a pun involving freezing peach peach peach while about dumb that's great. Thanks for listening body <hes> this has they known divergent. 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"fred phelps" Discussed on X96
"Or two and just go right to movie, cricket dot net. Gut-gutted ultra there's there's plenty of stuff. I do there that doesn't. Not everything put everything there. So I've tried to keep up you've got to go both places, then dot com or movie, cricket dot net. And Shaw, I was really happy to see your in. I enjoyed seeing the pictures of your wedding how many years ago? Twenty two twenty two with September at the tower theater. And I I don't know those were popping up. And I it was nice because I spent this last weekend in Spokane for my nephew's wedding, and they had their wedding in a movie theater as well. Very Star Wars. We got a lot of movies. So let's get to them. The chaperone was not screen not too bad. Because if you're into downtown abbey, this is all all the same people involved in a very not not at all involved related to net down Abby story, but it's got Elizabeth McGovern in it. And and British and land auto, I don't think is British either. She's australian. Yeah, she's on Sabrina the teenage that she was she was she was in Lord of the rings as whereby people, really good and Sabrina. Yeah. So that that's great. So we would read Joan Joan which fortunately was Dench. Should you know, and please? Damon danger. She plays. She is a young just nice grandmotherly woman who one morning, that's is at our bell. And it's my second five in Scotland Yard arresting her for violating. The officials sounds kind of had a turn. And it turns out this is inspired by a true story. And they lean heavy on that inspired thing. That she in during the war, and after the war gave nuclear secrets to the Russians so well and tell you flash back to that and judy's characters played by Sophie cooks who who's in the Kingsman movies, and and all boils down to she did it for love. But it's and a spoiler. The problem. Can't spoil. What's already about the the the problem here is that this reduces what could be an interesting story into just really drift Zachariah dribble to stars for red. I'm sacramento. All right, toll keen, talking more, Akron drivel. This is this is a JR talking looking at his early life. Both both as a up and coming student befriending other students and forming a group a packed dare said DeRosa even fellowship. Of with his friends cuts to that to his his experiences during World War One. And in the trenches and seeing the horrors of war and how he mentally connected. The horrors of or to the horse that he would later write in the rings. Nichols. Holt from expert plays token, there are some moments with him in the Collins that are quite lovely. And and you almost get sensitive of magic that that that are trying to get across. But a lot of it is just very sort of bohemian rhapsody level of I did this and led to this. Okay. And two and a half two and a half from toll keen. Is purest white as this is a gangster drama from China. Spanning over from two thousand one to two thousand seventeen you start with a couple who who are young and in love, and he's he's a mid level gangster. And she runs the Mahjong Mahjong game in the back of the club that them gangster. Hang out one night. They're driving and some folks poem over and beat him up. And she fires got in the air to stop them. And she does five years in prison because guns are legal in China. Exactly. And and she she doesn't she isn't right out anybody. She's my gun. I got it. And the rest of movie is about her coming back after president. Whether she reunites with the guy really strong, grandma, this young this actress named. Zhao is just amazing to watch. And and she's she's watching three star three stars for ash is the purest made in China it has yet so China they're acknowledging that there are gangsters in China acknowledge their gangsters in China. Hail satan. Yeah. Let's this. This is the Sundance documentary about the temple those those fine lovely folks who think you know, what's if you're going to put the commandments up on the on the public square. Well, hey, I've got this monument of bathroom at that to go up right next to it. And if you don't like it. Well, hey, we're going to court. This is a very funny and very actually very insightful. Look at how the how satanic temple started largely as just sort of poke in the eye joke of front and has actually grown into legitimate movement movement, which is an and they're interesting people. And it's a funny funny thing I mean, they they got their start trying to baptize Fred Phelps as dead wife as as a member of the temple on the lesbian Mormons can do it. Why can't we? All right. That's yeah. He's that horrible. He's gone now westboro Baptist for people. No. That's funny. Anyhow, so that's how they got their start. And so this is this is actually turns out to be quite an quite a fascinating look at how the first amendment. Is about protecting the people who you've really don't like the document does the documentary and the director penny lane professor at Colgate. And this this is this is a great sort of the wall between the church and state is is has a lot of holes days. And this this is this is a great reminder of why that wall supposed to be there. You know, an interesting side note, Fred Phelps westboro Baptist church before he became crazy. Fred Phelps west. He was a first amendment attorney a very a very rabid of protector of free speech at the time. Yeah. Good idea to go protest, you know, soldiers funerals and his, but they they are they are also some of the best I alert in the country. Yeah. So yeah. So what are you give and a half three and a half hail Satan hail? Same question. Satan. Okay. Well, then we'll get to the farts. He's after these including detective Pika chew, right? Okay. 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"fred phelps" Discussed on The Adam Carolla Show
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