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"fred harvey" Discussed on Ghost Town

Ghost Town

11:29 min | 1 year ago

"fred harvey" Discussed on Ghost Town

"Road of the interior land which was a fifteen hundred mile trade route between mexico city new mexico from fifteen ninety eight to the late eighteen in eighteen. Twenty one captain william back now and his party found their way to the end during a trip across the plains from missouri establishing the very end of an eight hundred mile long old santa fe trail linking independence missouri to santa fe. The santa fe trail wasn't essential commercial route up until eighteen eighty with the rise of the railroad. This hotel was a popular lodging option. Probably one of the only ones among trappers soldiers miners and politicians enduring adventures through the mexican american war. The civil war the coming of the railroads and new mexico's new statehood. It's forty six through fifty five rooms. Depending on the time period bar and entertainment area became an important part of santa fe history according to local belief santa fe residents used to use though tells a kind of court most of us don't have the pleasure of sleeping in our local courthouse and here's a violent fact people found guilty were routinely hanged in. What is now the hotel's lobby. So the la fonda was popular very popular. Not only is like a town hall type place but in the years that followed as a hub for high risk types. Think old west gunslingers thieves and gamblers in eighteen forty eight the in was sold. Its name was changed to the united states hotel but nicknamed la fonda americana by locals. Everyone's favourite part of the hotel was gambling hall where military officers and pro. Gamblers would hang out. Get drunk and play the saloon slash. Drinking hall was the second biggest attraction at the hotel. At this point the la- fonda became a pretty dangerous place with emotions. Running high gunfights and brawls were not uncommon in eighteen fifty seven after a night of gambling. A man was hanged in the hotels. Backyard ooh ten years later in eighteen sixty seven the honorable john p slough chief justice of the territorial supreme court was shot to death in the hotel lobby. Slough isn't a fight. With a guy named captain reiner sohn. A member of the territorial legislator representing dona ana county slough called reiner sohn a liar and a thief so ryerson shot him slough blood out slowly eventually dying on the floor. The reiner sohn was tried. He was later acquitted around the same time. Thou tell sold again and was renamed the exchange hotel the name under which it operated for nearly six decades but first before all those decades while most of them it would burn down mysteriously in nineteen twelve. I found no further information on that and it seemed according to my research to be no big deal in nineteen twenty two. The hotel was rebuilt and expanded and the santa fe style was born. It drew inspiration from the adobe architecture of indigenous pueblo people of the region. The new hotel was hailed as quote the purest santa fe type of architecture and one of the most truly distinctive hotels anywhere between chicago and san diego. It was pretty much as it looks today in. Nineteen twenty five. The building changed hands again. When it was bought by atchison topeka and santa fe railway and leased to the infamous fred harvey harvey was kind of a rags-to-riches story. He was just fifteen years old when he emigrated to the united states from liverpool working his way up from dishwasher to restaurant owner seeing opportunity because the food around the train was well annoying to stop it and pretty bad. He founded the world's very first chain restaurant the harvey house. Thank you fred. Harvey along the train santa fe route. And that's all well and good in part of americana but more noteworthy than founding the first chain restaurant. I know i know. Was the chain signature employees. The harvey girl harvey girls were exceptionally obedient. Deferential beautiful and well trained the stepford style waitresses of the restaurant who became kind of celebrities in their own. Right at the turn of the century. If you're a woman your job prospects were pretty narrow. You could be a teacher. A mother a housekeeper or a sex worker but harvey began to recruit girls via newspaper ads across the nation for a new type of job. The ad asked for a woman of good moral character well-mannered attractive and intelligent with at least in eighth grade education. If you were selected based on lots of photos and letters about your manners i presume you began a new and modern life. Think flight attendant style glamour but with trains. These girls which was true. Some of them were teenagers. Seemed like they had a pretty good deal. They were paid a good wage at seventeen fifty per month got a free train ticket to their restaurant from wherever they lived at the time and became the it girls of they're pretty rural destinations. If selected for this great job opportunity harvey girls really had to drink the harvey house kool aid. They were locked in strict contracts for at least six months had to live together in dorms. Where only the strange nursemaid uniform of the restaurant. It was a black dress with a white bib. Complete with a giant bo hairpiece. It's very nurse matey and had to follow a lot of strict rules some of these rules. They were not to look or talk to each other while they were working. It was mandatory that they complement all children in the restaurant and under no circumstances. No no no. Were they ever to marry while they were working for the harvey house. The cult of the harvey girl and the harvey house in general stayed strong well into the thirties and forties and the fonda remained a harvey house hotel until nineteen sixty eight when it passed through a couple of local business people's hands and now is owned by cnn partners. A dallas based developer in the way it's still the crown jewel i'd say of downtown santa fe and wasn't absolute pleasure to stay in. You are really transported when you're there to a beautiful comfortable clash of cultures. If i can say that anyway despite not being locally owned we've got some great homegrown ghost to discuss after the break and he's left is now andy and getting your to do list done just got easier between back to school and with the holidays around the corner it can feel like. There's no time to tackle home projects whether you need help with emergency repairs or major upgrades. Andy matches you with top local pros. Who can get the job done right. 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Hello and james harrington hallo and are fearless leader sitting in her ghost town mansion paid for by the taxpayers avian noble. Hello so if you want early. Access with no chitchat or adds. Bonus episodes goto patriotic dot com slash. Ghost town pod. Okay okay. we're back. The lafond on the plaza is now very very famous for its ghosts again. It's this historical mainstay in the middle of downtown santa fe. It's gorgeous it's well-maintained people would go there anyway. But it's ghostly identity is truly haunting we of course start out with the tactless but honorable judge slough who continues to walk. It's hallways in his long black coat more often than the judge. However is the ghost of distraught salesman who jumped into a well that used to be on the grounds after losing all of his company's money. We don't know the identity of this person but we do know where the willows the hotel's dining room called la paz walea is situated directly over the old well and both guests and staff alike have reported the site of a ghostly figure that walks in the center of the room then seemingly jumps into the floor and disappears. There's also a mysterious railroad engineer named buchanan. Who likes to just hang out at the hotel. You can often see him. But you can smell his cigar. Smoke in the hallways and corridors. There's also a ghost that supposedly haunts the hotels wedding suite room. Five ten legend has it. She was murdered on her wedding. Night by an ex-lover you've gotta to have one of those ghosts for hotel. It's very on brand then. There's a happy young girl most commonly seen around the lobby and the staircase people in the lobby can hear giggling as they walk by and she'll often try to play games with guests like peekaboo. There's a cowboy. Gambler goes who haunts the bar of course but most terrifyingly manifests as the shape of sleeping people in the beds of unoccupied rooms. And then there are all the harvey girl ghosts some say there go stay at the hotel because of distress one named rachel is seen around the hotel. She either killed herself or pined away from grief when her soldier boyfriend died. But others say the harvey girls stay around because they were kind of famous and want to stay there. A lot of people say or like mediums will come by and feel this residual energy of harvey girls very active energy very positive energy. They can be seen around the hotel in their signature outfits working serving walking path between the kitchen and the dining hall being obedient subservient and smiling. Wanna stay at the lafond on the plaza. You'll have to have like three hundred to eight hundred dollars a night. Which is not cheap. But guests attest to experiencing vague feelings of uneasiness being watched unexplainable cold.

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"fred harvey" Discussed on Talk 1260 KTRC

Talk 1260 KTRC

08:05 min | 1 year ago

"fred harvey" Discussed on Talk 1260 KTRC

"Hey, everybody, You're back with heating it up. I'm Cheryl Alters Jameson and thank you for spending part of your Saturday afternoon with us. Today. US is myself along with Johnson. Claire Chef Sean is the proprietor that the executive chef, the head honchos? Oh, he doesn't fall along with his wife, Katie. There are wonderful team and they are now running the new restaurants and the cast Aneta As well as the new bottle shop. So, Sean, which one do you want to start with? You gotta start with. I think it's probably a good place to start than we could talk about where we're going from there, Okay? So the bottle shop is a branding project for us Previously, we were occupying the spaces and we still are, but they're not open on the south side of the building or are beautiful bar Castaneda on the patio in the dining room for Ken When does it happen? You know, obviously. Lot changed. Luckily for us, we had a big patio and did great patio service all summer outdoor dining. I think our seating capacity before Cove. It was nearly 200 so Uh, that really helped to have all that space. Uh, but you know that winter came and we didn't have anywhere to see people. Uh, And we have a We have a license here that allows us to do on premise and off premise, which is a huge asset through. You know these challenging times. So promise liquor sales. That's right. Yeah, that's right. Come on, on premise, consumption and off premises consumption to sell clothes bottles to go, just like you would have in a wine shop. Or or liquor, stork. Now what The catch on ours is is that it's the liquor stores. Also the location to pick up the entire dinner menu for to go s O You complacent order for burger and come in and I got a single beer or six pack or a bottle of wine on Take it home. It Z one of the only places you could have a one stop shop without having toe stop at the grocery store or gas stations for beer. All right, lunch hours, which we hadn't done previously. So we're opening four days a week, five days a week total Wednesday through Saturday. We're opening at 10 A.m.. And on Sundays we're opening it, 11 A.m.. On we're offering like I'm doing a muffuletta. Speaking of New Orleans, I'm doing a muffuletta sandwich on housemaid for kasha. We're doing slices of Keith. We're doing slices of pie. I've got a couple suits always and recently making some really tasty Sicilian style pizzas that we toasted our little love in here. It's all kind of carry out takeaway pre made food. Um, but it's a nice snack along with our full espresso bar. And, uh, you know, we're not trying to be just a liquor store still restaurant. Yeah, well, I think that you have planned all of this out really? Well as we were talking off air, I mean, you do not have to close if we have any other of these, you know, crazy pandemic twists and turns now because you've got it all covered at this stage, you figured out how to do a little bit of everything and do it very well there, too. So let's see. There's the muffuletta. Yeah, I saw that on the menu. What do your other sandwiches that people could have? I mean, I know you switch up a little bit, but things that people expect to have there. So it's not ready yet, But we do have some pastrami cheering. Uh, it's kind of you know, we're really the kind of We were creatures of change. We don't really like toe. You know, we we won that the Green Chili Cheeseburger Award, you know, and I can't. It's like the only thing I can't change now. We can't remember that. And that's a wonderful burger. So yeah, actually thinking I might need to drive up there just to have that, but it's It's really hard. You know, It's very tempting to think about the other eight or 10. Things like Get on the lunch menu, too. Well, you know, it's only an hour away, so you could make more than one trip. That's true, like daily for only one more Hello and eat lunch. And then and then you know the neck or eat dinner. And then the next day have lunch before you leave. There's a possibility. Yes, car, especially with the rooms upstairs. It's It's pretty, huh? For many years, my hairdresser was actually somebody in Las Vegas and I had specifically set that up so that I would always have a reason to keep coming over there because I know so many people, and I so enjoyed having a chance to come. And that was when their work that you know you didn't have anything of Causton. Ada did not exist as a hotel. Yeah, Yeah, I needed the Plaza Hotel about money. That's still someone of the storyline here in Las Vegas. We have some barbers, not you can tell from me. We have some barbers in town there. Like, really good. So we have people drive from all over the state to get their hair cut here. I hear that story more often. Funny. It is funny. Yeah, yeah. Here. Cut it. Lunch. Las Vegas? Yes, literally across the parking lot from us is it is a salon. So Hey there, Ugo. Also across the parking lot from you is that fabulous Antique store in Las Vegas does have a number of interesting places to poke around that way. But do you know the name of the one That's just right across from you. Um, yeah. Reparative antiques. Um, yeah, Representative. I mean, you know, there's Listen, There's amazing antique stores in Santa Fe that really are, but they get picked over there is, you know, it's a very popular hobby for even locals, especially travelers. To do in Santa Fe, our stores to get picked over a little less and have a few more gems. I think her her shelf space. It stays good tip that I found a. I found an old Two handed for a half pound cleaver in one of these stores that was actually used here in the cost of medication, and I had it restored by a knife maker named Marty, who lives in Santa Fe. And it zapped pretty pretty amazing piece. It's It's back in its home kitchens. Oh, that's a wonderful story. I'm gonna show you a picture of it. I'd love to see it. Yeah, Scary thing. Yeah. The last time I was over there, and I was in the shop and rough rider is across the street there. I found it. An old Bakelite. Uh, Angel food cake comb. And big light is that wonderful sort of plastic but from the mid early to mid part of the 20th century folks, and it's it's highly collectible and sought after in. Yeah, it's one of the angel food combs that you use to properly cut an angel food cake because it's so light and tender. If you use a traditional knife, it just kind of squishes and up. So on angel food comb, and it really does look like a giant metal comb Clyde handle anyway, that came from there. So any time I get that out Think of Castaneda, too, because that's where I was on my way to a zone of your opening events when, um, I ended up at the antique store on the way because we were a little bit early. Coming on up for things anyway. Out of the Castilian is such a great place. If you didn't hear our first segment on do you don't know it is one of the original Fred Harvey houses. One of the classic old hotels that was along the railroad, the Santa Fe Railroad and the rooms running by there today, I actually noticed on your website that you have a question about the train schedule and everything so that people could still arrive by train, right? That's right. Yeah, absolutely. You know, the recently the schedule has gone down. I think that three days a week. Um, back to day life. I've written that train a lot, because my e mean, if you have the time, it's definitely the way to travel. It really is a good way. Yeah, I like Katie from Illinois. And for many years I had brain back and forth between.

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"fred harvey" Discussed on Talk 1260 KTRC

Talk 1260 KTRC

07:43 min | 1 year ago

"fred harvey" Discussed on Talk 1260 KTRC

"So we're opening four days a week, five days a week total Wednesday through Saturday. We're opening at 10 A.m.. And on Sundays we're opening it 11 A.m.. On we're offering like I'm doing a muffuletta. Speaking of New Orleans, I'm doing a muffuletta sandwich on housemaid for kasha. We're doing slices of chief. We're doing slices of pie. I've got a couple soups always And recently we've been making some really tasty Sicilian style pizzas that we toasted our little love in here. It's all kind of carry out takeaway pre made food. Um, but it's a nice snack along with our full espresso bar. And, uh, you know, we're not trying to be just a liquor store still restaurant. Yeah, well, I think that you have planned all of this out really? Well as we were talking off air, I mean, you do not have to close if we have any other of these, you know, crazy pandemic twists and turns now because You've got it all covered at this stage. You figured out how to do a little bit of everything and do it very well there too. So let's see. There's the muffuletta. Yeah, I saw that on the menu. What do your other sandwiches that people could have? I mean, I know you switch up a little bit, but things that people expect to have there. So it's not ready yet, but we do have some pastrami. Caring, uh, just kind of, you know, we're really kind of We were creatures of change. We don't really like toe. You know, we we won that the Green Chili Cheeseburger Award, you know, and I can't. It's like the only thing I can't change now. We can't remember that. And that Z wonderful burger. So, yeah, I think I need to drive up there just to have that, but it's It's really hard. You know, It's very tempting to think about the other eight or 10. Things like Get on the lunch menu, too. Right? Well, you know, it's only an hour away, so you could make more than one trip. That's true, like daily for only one more hotel any lunch and then and then you know the neck or eat dinner. And then the next day have lunch before you leave. There's a possibility. Yes, especially with the rooms upstairs. It's pretty, uh, sure. For many years, my hairdresser was actually somebody in Las Vegas and I had specifically set that up so that I would always have a reason to keep coming over there because I know so many people, and I so enjoyed having a chance to come. And that was when their work that you know you didn't have anything of the Causton. Ada did not exist as a hotel. Yeah, Yeah, I needed the plaza Hotel money. That's still someone of the storyline here in Las Vegas. We have some barbers, not you can tell from me. We have some barbers in town. They're like, really good. So we have people drive from all over the state to get their hair cut here. I hear that story more often. So funny. It is funny. Yeah, Yeah. Here. Cut it. Lunch. Las Vegas? Yes, literally across the parking lot from us is it is a salon. So Hey there, Ugo. Also across the parking lot from you is that fabulous Antique store in Las Vegas. Does have a number of interesting places to poke around that way. But do you know the name of the one that's just right across from you, right? Yeah. Operator Antiques. Yeah, I mean, you know, there's there's amazing antique stores in Santa Fe that really are But they get picked over. There's you know, it's a very popular hobby for even locals and especially travelers to do in Santa Fe, our stories to get picked over a little less and have a few more gems. I think her Shelf space. It's safe. Good tip. Next, I found I found an old two handed 4.5 Town Cleaver and one of these stores that was actually used here in the costume medication. I had it restored by a knife maker named Marty, who lives in Santa Fe. And it Zapruder. Pretty amazing piece. It's It's back in its home kitchens. Oh, that's a wonderful story. Well, I'm gonna show you a picture of it. I'd love to see it scary. Yeah. The last time I was over there, and I was in the shop and rough rider is across the street there. I found it. An old Bakelite. Uh, Angel food cake comb. And people. Why does that wonderful sort of plastic but from the mid early to mid part of the 20th century folks, and it's it's highly collectible and sought after in. Yeah, it's one of the angel food combs that you use to properly cut an angel food cake because it's so light and tender. If you use a traditional knife, it just kind of squishes it up. So On angel food comb, and it really does look like a giant metal comb Clyde handle anyway, that came from there. So any time I get that out, I think of the Causton Ada, too, because that's where I was on my way to a zone of your opening events with. Uh um, I ended up at the antique store on the way because we were a little bit early coming on up for things anyway, over the custody. It is such a great place if you didn't hear our first segment On. Do you don't know. It is one of the original Fred Harvey houses one of the classic old hotels that was along the railroad, the Santa Fe Railroad and the rooms running by there today. Actually noticed on your website showing that you have about the train schedule and everything so that people could still arrive by train, right? That's right. Yeah, absolutely. You know, the recently the schedule has gone down. I think that three days a week. Um, back to day life. I've written that train a lot, because my e mean, if you have the time, it's definitely the way to travel. It really is a good way. Yeah, I like Katie from Illinois. And for many years I had to rein back and forth between Lamy the station here and lay me outside the Santa Fe back up in the central Illinois to the stop deals Burger, which is my hometown, so My parents have passed away subsequently, and there's nobody else up there. Now that I need to go see, but my train rides up. There are just a wonderful memory. And I'd love to pull through Las Vegas on the train. Then way have future plans for vacation toe. Take off to l A and on the train, and then you know you could really go anywhere. The right. Ella is nice. You can go stop. Look, Sada on the way over right from l e l A X You can get anywhere in the world. So you know, as long as you have the time to travel, it zah pretty comfortable way to do it. You know, I've actually moved my life from Albuquerque to Portland, Oregon, on the train and then back and forth actually, two times back when I was 19 Got on the train with a backpack and said, I'm going to Portland. Great thing to do. And yeah, that's probably a great time in life to be in Portland. What a terrific city too. You know, I think I have that hobo heart. You know, it's a trained voice had some sort of weird. Way of working their way into my life. And now I make my living on the track. So there you go. It's all worked out well for you. Okay, folks, please stick with us. We're gonna hear a couple of commercials from some of those wonderful people who keep us on the air and you are listening to heating it up. This is talk 12 61 037, Katie RC. I'm Cheryl Alters Jameson. And if you have thoughts, questions you want somebody to be on the show. You want to be on the show. Please get in touch with me at Cheryl at Santa fe dot com. And since some of my friends can't even spell Cheryl, it is C h e r. Y l and that's at Santa fe dot com. Here at Hutton Broadcasting. Hey, don't go away. Hungry..

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"fred harvey" Discussed on Talk 1260 KTRC

Talk 1260 KTRC

01:46 min | 1 year ago

"fred harvey" Discussed on Talk 1260 KTRC

"Mean, every fire safety suppression get all the patios up to 80 a code. I mean it. It was just walls. I mean, every everything else we had to put in place. Yeah, that's great. Well, for those of you that might not know. And this some of you who do Alan Al felt was the developer behind They're bringing back the wonderful La Posada Hotel in Winslow, Arizona, another of the old railroad hotels. That's actually so. Yeah. Yes, we haven't touched on yet Is that the cast innate awas, one of the Fred Harvey hotels from that era of the American travel by train and all and Fred Harvey had so much to do with the spreading of hospitality and high culinary standards. And all of that. Through the west. Gosh, meals around the late 19 late 19th and early 20th centuries and drive my history right here. Yeah, that's that's absolutely right. Yeah, Yeah, I mean, a pioneer of hospitality in the American Southwest. This was one of the gym projects that it was the first rail side hotel. It wasn't the first Fred Harvey house, but it was the first hotel that they put on the rail tracks. And then everyone Following followed suit. So our hotel is a little smaller than all the other. You know, great Fred Harvey hotels of the rail yards, but it was the first one. How many rooms does the hotel have today? Today we have 16. We have four more that we're working on. Those were really close to being finished s 0 16 upstairs and four downstairs. Those will be King suites. And they should be done inside the months. Well, that's great. Well, folks, you know, it's gonna be wonderful Retreat, whether you're in Santa Fe or you're coming from someplace much farther away, but just a grand place to.

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"fred harvey" Discussed on Talk 1260 KTRC

Talk 1260 KTRC

05:51 min | 2 years ago

"fred harvey" Discussed on Talk 1260 KTRC

"Which she has a copy of that She's allowing us to auction off on many other things. So you'll you'll meet Alan after Valentina. They'll be in Winslow. I mean, if you're going to be on zoom, you might have all you zoom and have it. Be fun, right? Absolutely. All right, so we'll, you know, we'll be together. We're gonna be together virtually. And I think it'll be a really fun evening. People should join us starting at 5 30 on Saturday night. But again, everything we're doing is going to be going to be recorded. If you register for it. You will get a link that you can watch it whenever you want, Okay, and eventually will be free and I'll tell people where they can watch it that way. Once again the email Fred Harvey history at gmail dot com For all the links and everything else, All right, look, let's but spent a minute or two telling us about about Benjamin rushing about What he was doing and kind of the relationship because I want to tie this into what's going on in Philadelphia today was going on in the country today and and Joe Biden will speak at six o'clock Our times. Seven o'clock you're in central or eastern. Eastern. So eight o'clock your time. Six o'clock hour time. Nationally. Primetime tonight and television. Go ahead. Yes s 02 years ago. Now I published a book called Rush. The first major biography of Benjamin Rush, who was a founding father whose story kind of got suppressed in part because he was best friends with Thomas Jefferson and John Adams, and they told him everything And they rode him all these letters that were unbelievably personal, so that when Rush died, no one wanted all the stuff that Russian knew to come out. Including that the Russian written an autobiography in which he wrote down what he thought of every other signer of the Declaration of Independence. And every general in the Revolutionary War in Russia is very opinionated, but management rushes like that is like the lost founder. And it's been very interesting to watch him return to his friends and his frenemies because they said he was very close with Adams and Jefferson. He was frenemies with Washington and and Hamilton. And his story gives you like a unique view of the entire American revolution. He was younger than the other founders. He signed the declaration when he was 30. And so you really just get to see Everything from the beginning through the war. He was ah content. A congressman, he signed the Declaration of Independence. Then he was on the battlefields, a doctor treating patients and running the hospitals. And then, after the war was over, he was one of the writers who really helped people. You know one of his goals and it's very much important right now. He understood that once the war was over, that's when the real revolution had to become begin. Because the revolution was what are we going to be? Is America What was in America? What was a citizen of a really democracy going to be on this question? We still ask ourselves today and he asked it really aggressively of our leaders and of our citizens. Are we going? How are we going to become educated enough to deserve This kind of control of our lives. How are we going to make sure that our politics are fair? And he thought about this a lot. He wrote about it a lot he founded to universities. Tickets on college and Franklin and Marshall College, and he ran the medical school at what became the University of Pennsylvania and became the most important doctor in the world in America, certainly, and the only American doctor who mattered in the world And he treated Adams. He treated Jefferson and lots of their kids. He also was one of the major talkers about the issues of mental health. He was very focused. On mental health is one of the first people to talk about mental health is being a medical disease and not a failure of religious faith were will appoint. We're still trying to get people to understand today. But he talked about the medical approaches to mental health and addiction in a way that no one had ever heard before. So he was also an abolitionist but very hard not only against slavery but against prejudice against free African Americans, which is one of the biggest things that he worked for us is a really interesting guy. He was also a good writer, and I will say is his biographer. It's really good that he had good handwriting. So you actually can read his letters, Which is that which makes life a lot easier. And I will tell you working on a book like this during all the political stuff that we've been through over the last few years. Has been really powerful experience and a good one. Because what it reminds me is that the political contentiousness that we think we invented Is, in fact hardwired in the history of the country. And you know Benjamin Rush and Alexander Hamilton and Thomas Jefferson and John Adams. They were worried about this back then. I mean, One of the most famous things Benjamin Rush did was he got Adams and Jefferson back together when they didn't speak for 12 years. After the election of 1800 because he felt that if the two guys who invented America and he thought that out of Jefferson invented America, we're going to break up because of partisan politics. Right. One was a federalist. One was a Republican. What did that say for the future of the country? And he said, if I can't get out of the Jefferson back together, does that mean that every piece every two people who are broken apart by partisan politics, there's no way to get them back together. So he worked really hard to re establish their friendship. And we have amazing letters between all of them. Then, of course, they lived in the 13 years, and they wrote amazing letters to each other. And a lot of what we know about the revolution doesn't come from what happened during the revolution. It comes from these letters from these old all these all the founders of old cranky guys. And this amazing group of letters between Rush Adams and Jefferson before Rush dies in 18 13 and that for 13 years after rush dies, he really allowed these guys to be friends again and allowed the original founders should not be destroyed by partisanship. Which I find really inspirational. Give a website for yourself. Short Stephen free dot com s t E p h E n f r i e d dot com We'll take this up another time..

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"fred harvey" Discussed on Talk 1260 KTRC

Talk 1260 KTRC

05:45 min | 2 years ago

"fred harvey" Discussed on Talk 1260 KTRC

"A NATO Then Lane Warner is going to make chicken La Fonda. With Duchess potatoes and tomatoes gratin, and then we're going to make Blake baked Alaska. To tell you how to make it home. We also video of when Sean Sinclair make baked Alaska for 100 of us. That cast the NATO last year, which was amazing. And so we really want people to join us and sign up for this, and we really want them to go on the auction. And this auction is a silent auction that which then we pick up after the dinner and finish and finish everything off with with the really big Item, So some of the things we're auction off this year. We have an amazing a blanket basket from La Fonda and one of the original baskets that Mary Coulter had painted. Alan Affeldt donated that it is gorgeous. By the way, I want it. Everybody wants a Susie CDO. I wanted it. The minimum of starting bid on that is like 600 bucks, right? 9 900 bucks on like that. Yes, And we have this dinner for four Lafont of the Shah at the chef's table. Dinner is the first thing we're auctioning off when people to bid on that right now because They have to win it by Friday. So you can come eat with us on Saturday. That's a dinner for four. Everything, wine and everything. And again, Jenny Kimble, Jamie Clements will be your servers. I think people would pay just your servers, regardless of the food, But I think that'll be that'll be really wonderful. The H F course company, which makes the amazing reproductions of Mary cultures. Membreno China, which is very beautiful. Their beauty donated a 12 piece serving of membreno, China to this which we will be auctioning off gorgeous. It's gorgeous stuff, and you can get it in the original red, which people know, but there's also a black version of it that El Tovar uses Oh my God. We also have one original Membreno plate that was donated. By one of our favorite Fred heads in Kansas City. Heather Paxton from her collection is that Harvey family Harvey Family members donate stuff from their own collections. Daggett Harvey is donating two champagne glasses that Fred Harvey actually used. So this read this read platter pieces is old. Yeah, the single Membreno pieces actual Membreno piece from back in the day, Membreno China was started being made in the 1930 reproduced now, Stephen being reproduced now. It's very produced, but the original pieces obviously you're worth lakhs for me. Fred Harvey Materials are really collectible when I was working on my friend Harvey biography, Appetite for America. I was on eBay every day because there's certain things you can't see anymore unless you find them on eBay. But people love collecting friend Harvey Materials. First of all from Harvard, people had amazing taste. So they own amazing Native American art, the commission lots of Native American art and Western art. And there's a lot of art with it with a friend Harvey and perimeter that people probably don't even know has a tide of Fred Harvey. All right, so some of those were some of the really good pieces. The dinner, the blanket box you can donate as much as you want to the foundation for the History Museum. You can buy a coffee cup with a With a Harvey girl on it for 25 bucks, and not everything is big money on the on the auction. Some of the pieces are really, really, really nice or the goofy dude. I thought it was Jeff Goldblum it at first in in a chair he's going to do a book club. Kind of thing is, Is that you? Oh, that's may. So thank you. So my donation this year I gave two things one. I'm going to do a book club. Where I will. I will sign 10 copies of appetite for America. Okay, send them to your book club. Oh, you can read it. And then we will organize a zoom for your book, Love and I will talk to you until you were out of questions. Okay on it could be done anytime. And, ah! So we're doing that I also gave up several years ago. A beer company in Flagstaff made a special, eh? That had pain boy son done for the Grand Canyon right on the seven stages of drunken. Yeah, and it's now out of print. You can't get these cans anymore, but I had an extra set of them, so I'm putting my set. Up for auction and these cans are really cool in the paintings are really wonderful. They used to hang in bright angel Lodge in the bar. Oh, my God! And the starting bid on that is only 35 bucks. Right, So we tried to have things of all different price range is some people are incident. Friend Harvey, You're interested in books because a lot of the old friend Harvey catalogs have some of the most amazing Native American art in them. And the Harvey companies, really. They introduced Native American art all over the country. People would buy it on the trains, they would buy it in stores in the train station's William Randolph Hearst. We know collected everything is there to do. His first in Native American heart he bought was from a friend Harvey Little store that was set up in Chicago. And that's how he became obsessed with Native American art in any but I guess all of it For a period of time, So it's a It's amazing story. Amazing tradition, but the auction is online. Now you could go up on it and bid on the dinner and start bidding on the other things. It'll be open. It's a silent auction until a week from Saturday and then Saturday night. We will we will do some of that. We will finish up some of the bigger items and you'll also meet some of the donors so well zoo When we're going to do their thing, we're going to zoom to them. We'll zoom to Daggett Harvey Jr. Chicago, and he'll show you friend. Harvey's glasses that were that were auctioning will zoom. You, too. Helen Harvey Mills, and she'll show you the original catalogue for the friend Harvey Art Collection. Which she has a copy of that She's allowing us to auction off on many other things. So you'll you'll meet Alan after Valentina. They'll be in Winslow. I mean, if you're going to be on zoom, you might have all you.

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"fred harvey" Discussed on Talk 1260 KTRC

Talk 1260 KTRC

02:45 min | 2 years ago

"fred harvey" Discussed on Talk 1260 KTRC

"Need to raise our guest is out in Philadelphia in the Historic part of Philadelphia. Stephen Freed, he's an author wrote a book about Fred Harvey. This will be the 11th weekend over Fred Harvey History weekend and we'll all be virtual And he's also written a book about a medical doctor was also one of the founding fathers of this country, probably the least known or certainly the least known of founding father, Steven. Least noted the really good founding fathers. Okay? We'll talk a little bit about about Benjamin Rush before before we get off this well, so yeah, One more lecture. You won't talk about what they are. Two more. Two more lectures. One is on Saturday to 30 11 14. We have the world's expert on Judy Garland. John Frick, who's been on many shows talking about Judy Garland, World's expert in The Wizard of Oz. He's never given a talk on the Harvey Girls. On the Harvey Girls movie, even though he wrote the liner notes for the reissue of the Barbie girl's movie that were unbelievably interesting. So he is going to give a talk on the Harvey Girls movie behind the scenes with Judy Garland. All the escapades and we've been trying to get somebody to talk about the Harvey Girls move for a really long time. That will be on Saturday and then the grand finale on Sunday at 1 P.m.. Michael Gross, So I'm sure you know Michael grows the actor from family ties and tremors who is also a big train guy. Big Santa Fe train guy and also collects Fred Harvey stuff. We've been trying to get him on this forever, and he had two of his friends who he makes train movies with my one is Rich luck in Who's a wonderful film maker. Um and also rail China expert and Kevin Keith. A former editor of Trains magazine. These guys made a movie on the super chief. They've done a lot of different stuff. We're going to have them talk about the suit about the Santa Fe Railroad and friend Harvey and Michael has promised to show us some of his friend Harvey stuff. So we're going to also be able to look a little bit of his collection, which will be great. And that will be the final panel of the weekend. Okay, But But what? What we do want to talk a little bit more about is, of course, the dinner. Dinner is going to be you can cook along with us. The menu is wonderful. Sean Sinclair from Cassin. Ada will be making a friend Harvey signature cocktails for us. A Harvey Girl cocktail on a rum old fashioned then Johnny V. From Lesko. Sis who always works with us on this weekend is going to make angels on horseback, which is a very well known friend, Harvey Dish fried oysters with bacon. These amazing little orange pancakes with smoked salmon and them. They're always a villain to dinner. I'm the hum and all bonded got soup, which they made a cast.

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"fred harvey" Discussed on Talk 1260 KTRC

Talk 1260 KTRC

03:53 min | 2 years ago

"fred harvey" Discussed on Talk 1260 KTRC

"I think in the life and worlds in New Mexico, um it's really It's really great for the people who have known them were lucky when I When I met all these people, you know, Winslow is not far from New Mexico, But it was like a whole separate world of people who love Fred Harvey and I went to their hotel now the people kind of altogether. So the The then on Friday at 6 P.m.. We're doing a really interesting talk. So it turns out there's one Fred Harvey Hotel left in New Mexico that no one realized still could be saved. So we've watched the while Fonda coming back to amazing life and all the work that Jenny Campbell Barbara Felix did to it. Obviously, the cast in ADA is now gorgeous. But there is a Santa Fe railroad from Harvey Hotel in Clovis. No called the grand quiver era, which I actually until I met the people who were speaking. I'd only ever seen a picture of it with a big fence in front of it. And we had always been told every year, People would ask. What's the deal with this? I know it must be about to fall down. And the Clovis Hotel is really interesting because the Clovis hotel with part of transcontinental air transport so before planes could fly across the country, they flew during the day and then people got off the planes and went on trains at night. And so the second favorite or was involved with that, and people would take a train overnight from Wayne Oka, Oklahoma to Clovis. Have breakfast and clovers. Then get on a plane to Winslow. These were hopscotch across the country, and lots of famous people went there in Clovis and So, but you know, no one's been in that building in a million years. So the people from Clovis Main Street, a woman named Lisa Pellegrino Spear we've been working with is going to show us the first stuff. Pictures. And video inside the Grand Calvera and Vera and to talk about what can be done with it because they finally gotten some money to start clearing that area out. And just like Again. This is what happened in Las Vegas a couple years ago, and now look at it. Maybe this could happen in Clovis as well. So that's going to be a great talk Saturday. We we do every year we have Harvey family members. Don't stop. We're gonna take a break. It's a modern media finger. But you have no, I'm giving it to the good finger. Now I had a question A brilliant question. Somebody just texted me. Is any of this going to be recorded and available afterwards? Because it's all going to be absolutely where it'll all be available live and if you register for it You can view the recording whenever you want. Perfect, all right. It'll be a while before it's put up free for the public. We want people to register. I got drunk they can. If they can't watch it, they will get a zoom link to watch it whenever they want. We'll come back. We'll finish the lecture. Then we'll get to the auction. Then we'll talk about some other things. But first of all, tells about The sole survivors. Who are the sole survivors, Stephen. Okay, So the sole survivors are Richie and Charley angry who I worshiped as a young kid like dancing at camp dances, Songs press Way to your art, which is the first great blue eyed Philly soul song. And then later in my life, I got to meet them and I'm actually worse friends with them. One of them recently passed away, but This song is the beginning of Philly sound All those OJ song all those Harold Melvin, the Blue notes songs, Teddy Prendergast that all started with this on Expressway to your heart, which was written by Kenny Gamble, who went on to start Philly international records. And it's a great It's still one of the best filly songs ever. Stephen in another life used to be a music critic as well. See how much you learned here on the radio 32 minutes after three.

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Talk 1260 KTRC

02:41 min | 2 years ago

"fred harvey" Discussed on Talk 1260 KTRC

"There were so many people waiting in line to hear them that they had to give the same talk at four. And so we realized there was there were a lot of people who were interested because there were a lot of different entry points. Some people were interested because of foodie history. Some people were interested because the Fred Harvey company basically control the Native American art business, right? From the turn of the century up through the 19 forties. All the train think about all the train people. Right. There's all theirs. All people who are interested in Santa Fe Railroad itself, and there's a lot of trained people. And so we've We've kept this going all these years. And, of course, up till this year. We always had the friend Harvey Weekend in Santa Fe, right. Basically all summer. We've been planning for it to be in Santa Fe and in Las Vegas and worrying about how Cove it was going to affect this and whether it would be safe to try to put it on. Put any part of it on. In person in New Mexico, and we kept these decisions open for a pretty long time because Again. We're tryingto be there for the people who want to come and our partners are in the hospitality business in the hospitality business being yanked back and forth. And we want them to be able to come. So finally, a few weeks ago, we had to finally decide that the whole thing needed to be online. And so it is going to be online. So let's start with you still going to do the lungs is that people from all over the country can now watch it. People for Santa Fe can watch it on their computers. Watch it on their phones. And people all over the country who are interested in Fred Harvey, who haven't been able to come to the Fred Head weekend. Can come. So Fred had weekend. You've been to it you've you've worked with us before, and we've talked about this before, is usually a bunch of different lectures about subjects that come out of Fred Harvey and then a big dinner. At La Fonda. All of this raises money for the New Mexico History Museum. And that we do an auction of Fred Harvey related items. And there's lots of cool, you know, native art. There's there's things that came from La Fonda from back in the past. There's Membreno China, which is really wonderful. There's lots of books about Native American art. And there are hotel stays at all the different Fred Harvey hotels all to Bharat La Fonda, La Posada. Fascinating. So we're doing it all online and people could sign up. They can. They can listen to it. Watch it from wherever they want. People who sign up. If they miss any of the events, they could get caught, they get recordings of them. And so we're doing a full Fred Harvey weekend with seven talks. Go ahead. No. Keep that thought. All right. We'll come back. We'll tell people how they can sign up for the lectures. When we come back did electric and then we'll do the auction. Talk about Fred Harvey some more. And then we will venture off into some of the history that that Stephen.

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"fred harvey" Discussed on Talk 1260 KTRC

Talk 1260 KTRC

06:36 min | 2 years ago

"fred harvey" Discussed on Talk 1260 KTRC

"Off a best of show. It's a really good recent interviews on Monday, All right, let's go out to Philadelphia in the first capital of the United States and talk to Steven Freed, who's on Philadelphia today? He's a Fred head. He's also an author and a biographer. Steven. Good to see you on zoo man. Richard. Great to see you. And thanks for that soon from Nashville. Perfect timing for the election, Right? And we must be doing something right? You think we are I think right now it feels like we are. You know, I'm I'm a couple blocks down from where they're finishing the counting of Pennsylvania's ballots, and here in the place where America was born. The declaration was written in the Constitution was written and we're feeling like we helped today. Do you live in the historic part of Philadelphia? Ideo. I mean, my wife and I live like several blocks away from the Liberty Bell. If you had your choice, you live in Santa Fe. But you live in Philadelphia, you know, And I think, Stephen one time when we had you on. Maybe we're talking about rush me we're talking about. Maybe you're talking about Fred Harvey. I think you said Sometimes you're kind of amazed how little you know the streets in the historic parts of Philadelphia. Maybe I dreamt that No, it is true mean part. I think part of the reason that I ended up writing a biography of Benjamin Russia, so I could finally figure out what happened here, You know, you know, cause Santa Fe. Look, I love Santa Fe. I live in Santa Fe in my mind even when I'm Sitting here in Philadelphia, but you know, if you deal with a tourist area, sometimes people don't want to deal with the tourist area. So we have a tourist area where people go to the Liberty Bell and Independence Hall and all that kind of stuff. So You know, you get stuck behind horses and buggies and you have to fight off Benjamin Franklin impersonators and stuff. But I'm feeling pretty patriotic and pretty historically relevant today. All right, we'll get to that. And you don't mind talking about that. But let's talk about friend Harvey. First of all, sure. You're Fred Head describe what That malady is mostly about. Sure. So some people in Santa Fe in the area know that Fred Harvey company was a company that basically was the first major hospitality company in the in the in the nation, and they ran all the restaurants and hotels. On the Santa Fe Railroad, and they created a Fonda so people won't know the history of La Fonda. Fonda was a Fred Harvey Hotel, the cast of NATO hotel that was just restored in Las Vegas. Is a friend Harvey Hotel, the Grand Canyon Hotels, the South Rim, El Tovar and Bright Angel Lodge. Those air Fred Harvey hotels, and there were also Fred Harvey Union station Chicago unit Station. Was Fred Harvey, Kansas City, ST Louis. Obviously, the Albuquerque station was a huge friend Harvey Outpost Union station, Los Angeles. So Fred Harvey was amazing company that spanned it started in the 18 seventies. Oh, and it existed up through the 19 sixties and seventies. And it basically invented a lot of things that we take for granted, especially in the South West, because the Harvey companies who basically took care of people when they came to the Southwest, so As tourism became one of the major industries in the southwest, especially in New Mexico and Arizona that fell on the Fred Harvey company. So the friend Harvey company got involved the restaurants, hotels. It brought the food of New Mexico to the whole world, and it brought the food of the world into New Mexico. The Harvey girls that they hired on Lee single women to be their waitresses. They were the first major national force of working women and over 100,000 women between the 18. Eighties and the 19 forties had the opportunity to be Harvey Girls and travel all over the country working for the Santa Fe Railroad, and they also married all these local people made a lot of towns in New Mexico. They're founding families are people who work for the railroad who married Harvey Girls and settle down and settle those towns. So it's the influence of of the friend Harvey Company in New Mexico is something we continue to explore. It is the reason why the New Mexico history Museum, which is where I first started talking about Fred Harvey in Santa Fe has AH permanent exhibit of Fred Harvey material in the mezzanine between The floor. That's the really old stuff and the Fords really new stuff because Harvey and the railroad really represent that middle period that period in that from the late 18 seventies into the early 19 hundreds, when Santa Fe reinvented itself as a city different And the Harvey Company, you know, brought Santa Fe merchants and the Native Americans from the pueblos to the world's fair in 1915. Both in San Diego and San Francisco. So the Harvey company has had a really interesting relationship with New Mexico. And so it's not surprising that even though the company was in all kinds of different cities, and it was based in Kansas City, and later Chicago, the resurgence of fascination with Fred Harvey as a really interesting way of dealing with American history, especially The Southwest is really taking its place in Santa Fe and the New Mexico History Museum when it opened set out to have a Fred Harvey exhibit and brought me in because I happen to write a book about Fred Harvey. And Fran Levine, who was head of the museum then and Jenny Kimble, who's known raised a weekend for me in a April night of 2010. Having no idea whether people would be interested in it or not on I gave a talk at the museum. It was one of the many days with power went out in Santa Fe, so I gave half to talk in the dark with a flashlight. And then we had this wonderful meal at La Fonda, and it turned out that there were many more Fred heads than we ever realized. And what this event did was the people who There been people dressing up his Harvey Girls in Winslow, Arizona, who didn't know there were women driving dressing up Harvey Girls in Florence, Kansas, so It started to be this thing where people who were interested in Fred Harvey people who were interested in Santa Fe Railroad people heard Judy Garland because, of course, Judy Garland played a Harvey Girl in the movie, The Harvey Girls. People inside. A lot of different subjects started to come to Santa Fe. Teo to talk about this. We we had this weekend 2010. We did another one in 2011, and more and more people just came every year. One year Jenny Campbell and Alan Affeldt, who owns La Posada in Winslow, and now the cast in ADA in Las Vegas. Did a talk at the museum A two o'clock on the on a Sunday. There were so many people waiting in line to hear them that they had to give the same talk at four. And so we realized there was there were a lot of people who were interested because there were a lot of.

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"fred harvey" Discussed on WMAL 630AM

WMAL 630AM

06:19 min | 2 years ago

"fred harvey" Discussed on WMAL 630AM

"List today, Moron. Lefties is the headline and it's pretty good stuff. There was a some adult women assaulted the seven year old boy. The other day when Joe Biden was having his big event and seven year old boy with a pro trump side was assaulted by grown women. One at least one has been arrested so far. And this is good stuff. In Texas, a schoolteacher is in trouble for issuing a lesson for the kiddies that lays out the police. The police today are like slave flavors in the 17 hundreds and, you know anti civil rights people in the 19 sixties Democrats. And now the place. I'll get to that. Because the teacher you know the police are like the cake and they're like, That's what Camilla Harris said. Excuse me, Allah, Camelot. Andi, you remember Rose McGowan Remember Rose McGowan is she's apparently an actress. I don't think I've ever seen anything She was in, but she's the one. Then she's obviously kind of a mess and her personal life. She was, she says, sexually assaulted, raped by by her visa. Weinstein, the big Hollywood Democrat party fund raiser, a friend of the Obama's fund raiser for the Obama's pictures of him with the Obama's the rapist and with the Clintons, of course, and Hillary Clinton fundraiser and pictures of Harvey Weinstein. Hillary and with Bill and he is big Democrats, Hollywood and their sexual deviants. Some, you know, that seems to be a rampant issue in the Democrat Party from Jeffrey Epstein Harvey's Weinstein to Bill Clinton. At the Weena. The list goes on and on and on Rose McGowan, who started the whole Harvey's Weinstein thing by by starting to tell the truth, And that's a rare thing with people on the left. She started to tell the truth because she was a victim of this pig, and she tweeted over the weekend. Rose McGowan got the ball rolling on the whole pound. Me too thing, Really, I mean, she's kind of The first domino to fall on the pound Me to movement, Rose McGowan. And she tweeted over the weekend. I was raped by a top democratic donor. Hillary Clinton shut down NBC's She's talking about Herbie Weinstein. Hillary Clinton Shut down NBC's expose of Harvey Weinstein. She writes H W with one call from her spokesperson. That's how it worked to one of Hillary Clinton's people called the president of NBC. And they just made the story go away for their rapist Fred Harvey Weinstein course at NBC. They were protecting Matt Lauer, who was a sexual deviant and they were protecting Mark Halperin, who is a sexual deviant tennis shelter. And that's thes Air Democrats. This is what they rose McGowan continued on her Twitter. I strongly believe Joe Biden is a rapist as his rose my guess she was the hero of the pound made to moment. Now they're going to bury her. She is going to end up rolled up in a rug somewhere in El Segundo. DNC had Bill Clinton talking about the convention last week Had Bill Clinton speaking, she wrote. DNC had Bill Clinton zero serial abuser of young women, Epstein and others speak Do you want to be pro Dem? She writes. I know more than you will ever know about their evil You can hide behind your convenient morality. I won't Now That's a lifelong Democrat, Rose McGowan, who's speaking there who sees that the Hillary people and, you know Bill is in there to bury the Harveys Weinstein story with a single phone called NBC because NBC is corrupt. And the people that run and VCR corrupt and the news people are corrupt, and they're dishonest People. They're not truth seekers. They're frauds and Charlotte tins engaged in more cover ups and the phony Russia collusion and blah, blah, blah, another peddling the post office. Blue mailboxes are disappearing all over the country because Trump doesn't want you to vote by mail. Also Twitter over the weekend band One of our R put a warning on one of President Trump's tweets because he talked about this makes me laugh out loud. Because he talked about the the danger of mail in voting and have these drop boxes where you could just go and dropped a bundled pack of 100 ballots that were mailed to your apartment building and you can fill them out yourself. Send a minute. It's no problem. The president also pointed out that in the age of the Wu Han, you're gonna have millions of people showing up and you know they have these levers on them that you have to grab the lever and pull the thing open. Then you put your ballot and now are all those things sanitized in the age of the Wu Han or so the president pointed out that they're not being sanitized these drop boxes and that it could lead to problems. And Twitter pulled the tweet from the president, saying it violated their policies. I guess they're gonna have to pull The Washington Post story today with the headline rejection rate for mail ballots could make been big impact. Now, the grammar aside the poor grammar aside more than a half million ballots just in the primaries, and that's only from a couple of few states that they're counting here. The number is actually much, much larger than that, because the Washington Post has corrupted everything that they do, but in fewer than half our states more than half a million ballots report I've been talking about the 12 Congressional District in New York, Carolyn Maloney. Where she won by a smaller number of votes than there were ballots that had been pulled and disqualified. Significantly smaller number of votes and the Washington Post doesn't seem to care about this stuff because the truth is not their thing. They're a Democrat Party press released every day masquerading as a legitimate newspaper and their disgrace to Western civilisation to the founding of this country and to and to the Gutenberg press itself. They are their disgrace and I'll get into that. They're.

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"fred harvey" Discussed on Talk 1260 KTRC

Talk 1260 KTRC

03:01 min | 2 years ago

"fred harvey" Discussed on Talk 1260 KTRC

"Dot or GE on it's all on there and And like you said the list is pretty long. So if you always still doing trips, where were you planning to go way had a whole Let's see. Where were we planning to go? We had a trip in conjunction with the San Ildefonso exhibit. That's up in my act right now. So we had a trip planned around that we had a trip. Planned to go to Las Vegas as part of the Fred Harvey kind of history, and you know those will come back. The field trips will come back. So it's sort of like how how do we have offerings where we can take our mind places if we can't take our body places right now? Right. And so you also have a you're part of the beyond borders. Collaboration was going to talk about a little bit more in the next half, right? Yeah, I'd love to get into that when Felicia is on later, just to give your listeners kind of a teaser. It's a program that we're in the middle of that is a partnership with the with the Center for Contemporary Arts and Sight Santa Fe, and they are looking at immigration through the lens of arts and social sciences. Cool and then also, we're going to discuss the Instagram is called S A R. Artists live on Instagram. This is one of my favorite programs that we're doing in which is why I'm so glad that we're getting Felisha on your programme in a few minutes, she's going to join us. It's I think it's one of the most interesting examples of how you can, You know, take this opportunity for all of the technology that we have in social media that we have and make it a positive thing. And to be able Tio What we're doing is we're getting into the studios of some of our most well known native artists, fellows, and so you really are getting to see through Instagram. If you use that social media platform, go find us on the school as school for advanced research every Monday for the whole all of September and all of August and September. We're having a program with with artists in their studio is talking to them about their practice, and it's so interesting because you want to know like How did they make that paper? Like? What materials? Are they using? What is that That mean and you can put, you know you can ask your questions in the comments, and it's really like you get to have a conversation with these artists that you might you know that that are pretty well known, so it's a great T get involved, especially with with sort of not being able to be an Indian market in person I know. And the 1st 1 of these they are artists live is with knob of metal Smith. Hannibal back, and that's coming up on Monday, and we're going to be joined by Alicia Garcia in the second half. Who is the curator? Curator of education at school for Advanced Research on MEREDITH, You're going to stay on and we're going to talk a little bit more about off school for advanced research because you all do really have a whole lot of a lot going on. So don't go away. You're listening to coffee and culture here on KCRC will be.

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"fred harvey" Discussed on Talk 1260 KTRC

Talk 1260 KTRC

10:21 min | 3 years ago

"fred harvey" Discussed on Talk 1260 KTRC

"Hello Richard the region we're back yeah are we back on you know we are we're back on and and Jenny Campbell and I were just sitting here talking about you know about social issues in Santa Fe Jenny is the chairwoman of the board at the looks fine on the plaza where we're broadcasting right now the lobby live on on the plaza to mouthful but is the beautiful Fred Harvey hotel like Ginny said there's been something on this corner before was a corner before there were corners like the seventeenth century but a hotel here for almost a hundred years ninety eight years they'll be celebrating a sentry in twenty twenty so you talking about your role here the role of the hotel in Santa Fe in downtown Santa Fe in an you know you I'm sure you have to prioritize your your your your job in where you're gonna pay focus on you know to look at all but I know the things that are really really important you are things like art are things like design or things like the cultural aspects of this hotel you're now the chair woman of the New Mexico tourism commission you've been a member for a long time but now you're taking over the reins on that and though it is not used as much as it should be in my opinion that is also kind of preserving promoting not just you know the beauty of New Mexico but the story good and bad of New Mexico in this culture when you look at the history of of the Fred Harvey hotels in the west and all of these divergent cultures the came together and at times clashed that is also part of the story it is it is it is definitely part of the funding from the data in you know seventeenth century and eighteenth century in the nineteenth century and then the Manhattan Project we talked about that earlier with a dozen and and and with that pulls over about Robert Robert Oppenheimer like basically lived here in this hotel how much of all of that every day impacts you well I think that I keep that in the back of my mind with almost every decision I make because I mean you're talking about our deep rich history but think about today I know I don't want to talk politics but well we're going to bother with part of the problem with the border in the migrants I mean a lot of our employees are from different countries right so some of that clash and some of that culture we're experiencing right now much less back in the Manhattan Project days are back in the Fred Harvey days and you know it's hard it you know staffing wise it's hard it's hard because a lot of error you know a lot of our house our staff is what we call back to the house on the dishwashers the housekeeper isn't really the backbone of the organization and to get you know it's there tough jobs and we're on twenty four seven you know when people want to take vacations on Christmas and new years in the holidays that's one where the busiest and so you know it from trying to get staff fainter to fill those jobs X. specially with the problems federally with the border and immigration it's getting harder and harder to fill those jobs and it's not just the farmers all of the hotels and hospitality here and so when I look at what thinking about what you're saying from Fred Harvey and from the Harvey girls which came into effect because the it was mainly of staff the Harvey hotels by African Americans and the wild west of town ways were not treating them right which is part of the initiative to bring in the snow the women from the west because the Fred Harvey figured that the cowboys would be more kind and sympathetic to these you know young women here which actually worked very well but when you think about that and then you think about I'm thinking about today of how did of course it is for us to replace some of our employees because of the immigrant problem you know when I and then I stop and think Richard in fifty years what's going to be the problem of the day still I mean because one of the things I'm trying to do with this building is going to be a hundred years old I'm trying to set it up for the next hundred years and thinking into the future and it's kind of is kind of wild to think about what what will be the issues then rather so you're exactly right this is been a melting pot it will always be a melting pot but the but the history the culture the art you know we own our own art collection I pray to god that it never gets old we've never sold any of our original pieces and we're still collecting and you know fortunately we've got about a three hundred fifty thousand square foot building so I can usually find of our son got us out of war on Wall for something or somebody that we really want to represent and show so but it is interesting to think about what's going on in the last hundred years and what may go on in the next hundred years and how to kind of set the business up to be successful because things are changing so quickly in terms of social media in terms of Airbnb he's you know life continues to evolve and change and even though we're going to be a hundred years you know I feel like find is going to be evolving and changing and in a good way you know not was throwing out the history and the culture by trying to really highlighted in that's one of our points of differentiation in the market is our history and our culture and art and so on I think you can be all that and not be old and not be stodgy and I think it you know are if you look at our marketing you look at our website you look at our guest rooms you know that I'm very proud of I I think a lot of it is cutting edge and it's interesting to think about in terms of a historical tower how much do you know we talk about you being the chairwoman of the Turks and Kurds commission now which is a statewide effort regional effort to to promote tourism across the state how much are you working with the other hotel years here in Santa Fe associations to promote Santa Fe smoked flies Santa Fe to promote the ski industry to promote the new outdoor recreation division I I think we we partner with everybody all the time with Santa Fe tourism and Randy Randall shops with trend Jim Trier the cabinet secretary of tourism and all the hotels you know what they say a rising tide floats all boaters and I would really we feel like that and when we oversell we've walked people and so we've we've had great relationships with their neighbors across the street I mean people are happy I'm not saying one out of each strong competitors because we do really compete for the market share we compete for rate but we all need to work together and I have at least amongst other owners in the other management leadership teams I have never felt like anybody is trying to be unethical or you know I really feel like it's a good hospitality team here in in in especially in the Santa Fe region current confidence in the economy of Santa Fe we are aware of I just left our budget meeting where we're in we're budgeting up for next year and that's budgeting up from an all ready record year I mean the father's been very very lucky and we've been building and building and building our rates in our revenue every year and so we wouldn't be budgeting up next year if we didn't have confidence now we are also going to take on some more renovation projects which will impact our revenues but that's our decision that's not a a market you know decision right and so yeah I it we're we're confident you know we also have retail tenant he's here and so I talked to them all the time on how their business is doing so it's not just hotel I think we've got a broader kind of look and you know they get scared from time to time but all of them or wanting to renew their lease all of them are still stable all of them are wanting to stay in business so I don't hear the gloom and doom that you think of with retail you know because of the Amazons on the world and the of the world and all the online stores you know people still are supporting the mom and shop stores at least in Santa Fe or at least downtown you talk about collected works who would think an independent locally owned bookstore and they're doing a great job of it's just like Luke Casey across the street Maloof all of our tenants rocky Gorman who was in earlier you know I think we'll still like talking and still like feeling infield protection try and they also know that if there's a problem that the Senate sleaze the stores will be there to back it up and support it so all right your forty five second message for the people Santa Fe for the holiday season I would say we are so grateful and lucky to live in a town like Santa Fe holidays are magical here basketball court in the desk morning groan worthy but also one of the simplest ways to share a moment with your kids what the buffalo say when he dropped his son off at school I son.

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"fred harvey" Discussed on News-Talk 1400 The Patriot

News-Talk 1400 The Patriot

10:30 min | 3 years ago

"fred harvey" Discussed on News-Talk 1400 The Patriot

"This season just love it oh my god what timing one yeah we wait the only female to every universe at the studio hi all male venture we might as well be in a monastery it right it's the truth alright everybody Dennis Prager here this is the are you set the agenda whatever's on your mind about you about me about life about death Lou what do you think of that yes indeed the final take your call do not be offended Americans get too offended too easily and so said it's not personal may be a subject of talk about a lot already or subject of just both of them with talking about our subject I don't know anything about if you're calling about ceramics I have nothing intelligent to say though I admit it and that's that's why I mean ethical so please don't be offended if I let you go just wanted you to know what else do I tell you that's it it is now time to go to your calls arrive AT everybody what an interesting question from Phoenix when we think of a let's see the data the data to the protective path all right let's see let me begin with a very dear subject to my heart right now Debbie in Simi Valley California high hi can affect the fight it like you know that I went with the six friends to see no three bases and knocking it out here then at the end everybody clap didn't work very cheerful thank you for that it was thank you for telling me that that is that is the norm people applaud if it's a great movie Emma and I look I know obviously I'm in it but it's not great to summon with great movie great it was very informative and encouraging and yes yeah well thank you that that means a lot to me folks you could see go to no safe spaces dot com to see where it's pulling near you and if you have to travel an hour it's worth travelling in our it's important to see is a wake up call about the greatest issue of our time free speech in danger to America for the first time in American history more free speech American eighteen fifty seven twenty nineteen all right everybody let's go to work Cameron in Phoenix hello Cameron Dennis Prager hi Dennis this taking my call thank you the question or yeah he hello how do you want to be looked back on throughout history like how do you want history to remember you hi it's a very interesting question I do think about it because I think that I have a legacy that will outlive me like my Bible commentary the videos I mean this is really a lot there and it's very very little of my work this time based because I don't talk I mean of course I talk about the issues of the day on the radio show but beyond that I only talk about what I call the main issues that without a will be is relevant a hundred years from now hopefully as today so I think I do have I think I do have things that will transcend one one lifetime I I I do think about that what is it one I heard a writer one say I will I will trade in a hundred readers today for one reader a hundred years from now I hope I have a hundred readers a hundred years Sir fell in a hundred researchers today and then there is that yup you have said before on line on the radio that you wanted to install on the thing that you bought yes and I'd like to add three words to that he he thought and he thought and I think if you're the great thinker and very admirable very touched I really am Cameron thank you so much you know folks many of you listening to me may not know this there would be no reason really why you would parents twenty seven there is it I am for whatever reason might I am I work for quite appealing to young people I don't know exactly why I'm neither surprising nor expected it if it is what it is and that's why I do believe that what I say transcends our time because it's it's the two other generation I just believe there's no reason why that shouldn't be if what I'm saying is true has wisdom makes sense why wouldn't it appeal to an eighteen year old the their brain is this is no different from the brain of my generation my parents generation or grandparents the the human nature doesn't change so if you have something important to say that response to human nature than it has to be appealing to the next generation also I am not motivated by what will appeal to the a leader of my time there was never a day in my life matter to me walked the a leaf the professor is the media the two York times they mean nothing to me nothing absolutely nothing I don't feel I need to answer to them I have no desire to be will fall by them this is been utterly liberating in my life to tell the truth this if that's a fake world all right big stuff Okey dokey thank you can remember a touch all run a Greg in Columbus Ohio I told you to hang on for the last hour high thank you so much hold on you sound like you're speaking from another room is that better yes I get even closer and you'll be better better yet get off the speakerphone you're really be my pal okay then okay go ahead with that all right go ahead in fact that yes it is excellent two things very quickly first of all I have two stories about Jews who bless Christians but first one issue with your rational Bible I'm a Christian minister and I just finished a quarter study from the book of exodus and your commentary was my basic text other than scripture itself and I want to thank you for that been such a blessing to men and women of faith and I appreciate that the thank you main thing I wanted to call about though I grew up in Nashville I grew up as a Christian in a can in a neighborhood that was majority Jewish I had to send the dogs are very close to me I had neighbors who had met at a concentration camp I mean it was I had a a neighbor who had been evicted from Russia and the program I mean it it it was a very interesting up bring but something that was very interesting in Nashville was in the middle of the twentieth century the wealthiest merchants in Nashville was Fred Harvey who is an orthodox Jew and in the early nineteen fifties he purchased the largest carved nativity scene in the western hemisphere and donated it to the city of Nashville of when he was asked what would you do that he said my neighbors it may be a wealthy man dying presence at my store and I wanted to do something well what a you know that is truly a beautiful story and with the screen was in the what's called Central Park it is the premier of park near Vanderbilt University downtown Nashville M. four include decades families would drive through it was sent up there there's a full scale model of the park the non in that part it was kind of it are all right hold on there I want people to hear the the rest of the story but so was the whole heart what was the those also Paul Harvey what was this man's name also Harvey folks the there's a very important lesson here people rooted in their faith respect them help people rooted in their faith in another face it's those rooted in nothing want others to be routed in nothing that is one of the the meeting aspects of the left no roots we don't want you to have your show live from the relief pain free studio I don't know anybody who likes being locked into a contract or who likes excessive fees so I'm very happy to have will curry the chief strategy officer at your talk USA here.

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"fred harvey" Discussed on Talk 1260 KTRC

Talk 1260 KTRC

01:50 min | 3 years ago

"fred harvey" Discussed on Talk 1260 KTRC

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"fred harvey" Discussed on Talk 1260 KTRC

Talk 1260 KTRC

06:39 min | 3 years ago

"fred harvey" Discussed on Talk 1260 KTRC

"For so the Harvey company was basically they knew that when you came to this exotic southwest the you had no idea what to do and they said their ideal was they couldn't even think that the customer was always right because the customer to know what they wanted me you've been to the Grand Canyon how do you take care of people the Grand Canyon it's not it's not like a normal place so they really had to think about how can you make sure that people have a great experience the food is amazing that people who come for hiking and authenticity guilt they want if they want to go to the bottom that they can write in people like me and my wife who want to sit on a you know on the front porch and drink and have a beautiful sweet added an egg enjoyed nature from the you know from the hotel you got to take care of us too and so that was really the quarters they really had to do this and this is before the park service men the park service learn how to take care of people from the Fred Harvey company because they were there before the park so it was a passing store I knew nothing about it you know living in Philadelphia I heard about it because my wife and I started coming to Santa Fe in the early nineties because a friend from Philadelphia bought a house your Picos and so we would come every year for our anniversary and the book started out as research looking for an excuse to come out more often and I realize it was it was actually a fabulous story that was also a way of telling the entire history of the American west through the railroad so I researched it for many years and about a year before the book was going to come out I came to Santa Fe and met with the new director of the museum which was just being rebuilt friend Levin and which Eddie Campbell who was running the Fonda and we talked about it would be cool to do an event in Santa Fe and so they agreed to do this is bad and from that we ended up booking a train to work of all the Fred Harvey cities starting for Chicago and that's what we did to promote the book and the events were really fun and I figured okay I wrote a book and I gave a talk and that's cool but lo behold you know a couple months later we were back in town and and again what other talking more people came and will we gave did programs about anything having to do with Fred Harvey the Harvey girls which are such a great fascination you're the first working women in America about merry culture about the real roads about the native American art business and all the issues surrounding the politics of native American art even the creation of the city but the city different is the for Harvey company was involved in all that stuff and because it was involved in architecture was involved in city planning so the hardy companies a great wave of understanding all this and so what we try to do is I mean it this gone way beyond me giving a speech me without due to days of lectures both from really interesting academics who come in and we make them when they can be interesting there can't be any power points that are just kind of sitting there because our our are you know are are the people come or lectures you know to expect to be fascinated to standard you have to live up to it exact order I mean what they did at the time was they wanted tourism to be fascinating they wanted they were the first people to many people to explain to white people the native Americans had been there before them so part of the history of America which up to that point is being told through the eyes just just of your point in his or yeah I mean the the diversity history of America that we now take for granted we really first talk to people by the Harvey company when they brought them in on the trains to come to these tiles and so it's really great so this year we have a panel about Mary Colter with miracle tree biographer Arnold Burke with Santa Fe architect barber Felix and actually the new interim director of the New Mexico history museum Billy Garrett used to be the historic architect of the Grand Canyon for the National Park Service I think he's gonna talk about the work that he did when he was there Caroline for all who used to be the executive director of the miss Rogers museum and at this since left is giving a talk about whether to me whether the company's use of native American art was commercialization or cultural preservation we have a historian from Arizona coming to talk about for an RB company didn't want to use food from other places they had their own farms they grew their own food they slaughtered their own poultry in many of the farms were in Arizona one of them was in Chino valley and it's actually one of the last ones that still standing so we're gonna get to talk about that Sunday morning a Saturday morning Maria Martinez the famous the artist who made the black on black pottery which is so blunt her her great granddaughter barber Gonzalez and her son Kevin are going to be doing a pottery demonstration and explanation of the relationship between Martinez and the Fred Harvey company a team to me I was going to be giving a talk about painting and working in Fred Harvey spaces and then the last panel before dinner is actually a panel about restaurateurs who were working in the Harvey spaces so said Moses who saved the Los Angeles Union Station restaurant space which is really amazing which sat empty for decades is coming in to talk about how they did that the executive chef from else of are the Grand Canyon and two and two of our more recent chefs John Sinclair who now is that the Castaneda in Las Vegas and Murphy o'brien is well known Santa Fe you also just took over legal tender in in late may so it'll be a packed a couple of days and the conversations are always very lively and the museum is a great place to hear talks and so we hope a lot of people will come to them and then join us for all these different meals which have become you know a big part of this weekend there's now for meals are attached to the weekend besides the lectures and people coming from all over the world we have people coming in from England from France and from all over America some of them are people who work for the railroad her work for Fred Harvey some of them are just fascinated by the southwest okay and they and they see the Harvey story sort of way of digesting and and exploring that the south if we take a break in U. S. hang for one more segment absolute before we do that do you have a website where people can find your work always it's Stephen freed S. T. E. P. H. E. N. F. R. I. E. D. dot com the back was Stephen free thirty two minutes after three o'clock talk more about Fred Harvey and some of the properties that fell into disrepair that are now being brought back and save you the full property thirty two minutes and then can a man in Mexico the phone in.

"fred harvey" Discussed on Talk 1260 KTRC

Talk 1260 KTRC

02:11 min | 3 years ago

"fred harvey" Discussed on Talk 1260 KTRC

"Go to Fred Harvey book at G. mail dot com and for the dinner la fond of the next night Saturday which is incredible dinner you get China you get I mean you get everything go to Lindsey dot org for tickets on that and the tickets will no longer be on sale after my show today all right Mister freeze from let's talk about a little bit about kind of the impact because I I find it fascinating not just the train had but Fred Harvey had on the web I don't think it's you can really overstate how much he opened up just to make it I get I guess kind of comfortable for people to travel to the west to nice day from these like you're you're in Philadelphia the come out from the east coast come out from Philly your come out from in Michigan or Ohio from the Midwest and say well we can go we can go check out that Grand Canyon thing I heard yeah I hear it's kinda deep he opened up the west to a lot of Americans he did because you know basically the railroads were not interested in in making sure those people were comfortable they just basically were trying to run cars and so the it was all outsourced usually the local people Fred Harvey was the only person who who created a national company that did this so there was continuity between places so when you went to a restaurant the next one new were you had been and they actually serve different food so you would have the same menu everywhere they also were interested in in showing off with the real roads could do so they would bring in fresh vegetables you could never have in the middle of New Mexico they would bring in meat from Chicago the you could get otherwise it would bring you could bring oysters across the country from New York actually they will live in a refrigerated car on the train it's a people were sort of amazed at what you could eat at these restaurants often in the middle of nowhere and so that's what happened during the eighteen seventies eighteen eighties eighteen nineties starting in the eighteen nineties the company started having hotels the Santa Fe railroad built for them trackside to Cassidy to was the first one in New Mexico and the model for these beautiful mission style hotels they were then all over New Mexico Arizona and California and we're really the cornerstone of tourism as people.