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Episode 102: Devil in the Details


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Episode 102: Devil in the Details

"January of two thousand eighteen the Bush family were pulled from sleep at four AM by allowed noise inside their Utah home. They did the same thing any of us would do they climbed out of bed and nervously explored their house for signs of an intruder nothing though was out of place or disturbed. Batur that morning, though, they discovered where the noise had come from a sinkhole had opened in their garage floor. But while that might be shocking enough. It wasn't the most unusual part of their experience. No, it's what they found in the newly open cavity. That was truly frightening. In the space that had existed below their garage. They discovered shelves clothing a woman's handbag. Even a small collection of children's toys together it all hinted at a disturbing truth for as long as they lived there. There was a room beneath their home that had once been used by people on a regular basis. Some people think it was an old section of the basement that had been walled off during remodel in the nineteen seventies. While others believe it might have been a bomb, shelter, whatever. It was the Bush family had never been aware of its existence. I think it's fair to say the most of us live. Very busy lives. We spend our days bouncing between responsibilities and commitments and in the process, we sometimes miss key details, maybe they're not as significant as abasement bomb shelter for lots of things slip past us during our crazy lives and that can be dangerous. Some details might hint at forces beyond our control or dangers lurking in the shadows. In a world full of the unusual unexpected and the unexplainable minding the details is an essential part of the human existence. When we don't we put ourselves at risk. Because sometimes the things we miss are the very things that haunt us. The most. I'm Erin minke. And this is Lor. We don't know a whole lot about her early years. Walberg was born to immigrant parents in Chicago in eighteen eighty just nine years after the great fire burned much of the city to the ground. We know that her father left when she was just eight years old, and we know that four years later, she and her sister Magdalen had to take jobs to help support their family. While Berga met, Fred when she was just fourteen and he was seventeen he worked as a salesman in his father shoe store, and she as a laborer in factory that manufactured baby bonnets three years later. They were married and started building a life for themselves. Part of that new life involve moving north to Milwaukee where Fred set up his very own shoe store following in his father's footsteps. It was a big gamble. But it quickly paid off soon. He was able to open more locations than as the money rolled in his wife was able to stop working outside the home, but Fred had his sights set even higher. He wanted to move into manufacturing. His first factory manufactured men's caps. And the second one produced aprons each one was more successful than the last and with every new hit Fred's business reputation grew exponentially, everyone respected him as an entrepreneur and lauded him as a solid family, man. And while he and his wife never had children. He was known around town as a good provider. Wealth brought new change the couple moved up to a lavish mansion in a posh neighborhood and became active socialites in the evenings. They attended frequent parties and bought expensive items for their home beneath that thin veneer of perfection and success. There were cracks forming. Fred took the drinking a bit too much and too often which began to cause problems at home the couple fought constantly, and those arguments were often loud enough that they're high-society. Neighbors could hear the shouts. But Fred wasn't alone in his flaws. The stories told about while Berga make it clear that she had a bit of a wandering eye with the husband who travelled often and worked long hours. She had taken to flirting with other men and that appetite found target one day in the autumn of nineteen thirteen when she needed help with a broken sewing machine at home. The repairman was actually sent to her house by her husband mechanic, young man, named Otto San Huber who was barely seventeen turned out to be someone while Burke new from her days in Chicago. He had been the adopted boy who moved in with the family next door, but left years later when he discovered that he was not their biological child. While Berga and Otto began an affair that day that would pick up speed as time went on at first they met in a hotel. But soon she was inviting him over while Fred was away on business. The trouble was when your home is known as a place where people shout in scream neighbors have tendency to become nosy and those nosy neighbors took notice of autos arrivals and departures. Dahlie, tried to do a little damage control the man visiting her house was just her half. Brother. She told someone that he was a bit of a vagabond, and she was just doing the right thing by offering him a warm meal and a place to get out of the cold. I can't say for sure. But my guess is that her lies didn't quite convince anyone who heard them. Looking back. Most historians assume that it was one of those neighbors who eventually told Fred about the affair. He confronted his wife, and he told her to end it forced to choose between her lover and her lavish lifestyle, she quickly chose the latter all of does regular visits stopped and life seemed to return to normal. But again life wasn't very normal inside that house breads drinking had increased over the years, and he had begun to believe that their house was haunted items would often be found in locations where Fred didn't remember placing them. Sometimes noises could be heard in distant parts of the house. I don't know if he was a believer in the supernatural before moving to Milwaukee, but his experiences in the house quickly turned him into one because of that. And also, maybe a desire to move his wife away from her old lover Fred decided, it was time to create a west coast branch of his. Manufacturing business in nineteen eighteen the couple moved to Los Angeles. And Fred got to work on setting up new factories and building the necessary support business around them while Berga was in charge of moving them into their new home one that she had hand picked herself she had a reputation for never giving away expensive items. So she had insisted that they find a home with plenty of storage space and studying up their daily lives in that enormous house took up much of her time for a while. But the change didn't help Fred streaking problem or his nerves rather than leaving the ghosts behind. He was certain that their new home was just as haunted as the last his experience in the new home was so unsettling that if he ever found himself alone there he would call upon a friend or two from work to come over and keep him company. Maybe Fred notice the little details in a way that most people never do. Maybe he just got paranoid. When he drank. We don't know what his thoughts and motivations were about. We do know that he slowly began to fear that the worst was just around the corner that a phantom haunted his life and meant to do him harm. But as frightening as it would have been for him to admit Fred was absolutely right. The murder happened quickly after weeks of unpacking and setting up their life in that new Los Angeles mansion Walberg who everyone had taken to calling. Dolly was ready for a night out. She and Fred headed to a friend's home on August twenty second of nineteen twenty two to do just that when they returned home or midnight, though, the world fell apart. Across the street. A neighbor named MRs Norton remembered waking up when something in her bedroom fell over while she was awake. She noticed. More shouting from Fred Dali's, home and sat up to listen for a moment. Norton's roommate MRs Rawson independently awoke at the same time in heard the shouting as well and went to her window to look at the big mansion down the street another neighbor named Jay Ashley heard the shouting as well. And then all three of those witnesses heard something else gunshots. Ashley immediately called the police and then rushed outside to have a better. Look other neighbors arrived as well. And together they all decided to enter the home of Dali, and Fred and see if they could catch the gunman after kicking in the front door, though, all they managed to find was a room in disarray and Fred's dead body sprawled out on the floor. That's when they noticed the pounding and muffled shouts from somewhere else upstairs. The neighbors sprang to the rescue and began searching the mansion for anyone else who might be there after a bit of searching, they discovered a locked closet upstairs and the desperate cries of Dali coming from the other side of the door. Someone found the key somewhere else in the house and unlocked the door and soon Dolly was explaining what had happened after they returned home. She had gone upstairs to undress. She said while Fred had stayed below to take care of some business. She heard a loud thump, and then after a moment of silence three gunshots before she could step out of the closet and go see what had happened a dark shape had pushed her back in and locked the door leaving her to fear the worst for her husband. Fred. Each of those three gunshots. At turns out had struck him. In the struggle the retu- wounds above the hearts and another in the side of his head. Fred had been dead before the neighbors even broke into the house. And when the police arrived Alba ca do was ask questions and help search the crime scene. All evidence pointed to an armed robbery. Fred's cash was gone. As was his gold watch and handful of other expensive items. But there was no sign that any of the doors or windows in the house had been forced open from the outside. And no neighbors witnessed anyone exiting the mansion prior to their arrival. So while the clues were there, the full picture seems to be alluding them. Initially, the police arrested a local group of feves led by a man named James Casey who had been suspected of similar crimes before heat even owned the same type of pistol that had fired the shots that killed Fred. But they were released the very same day after it became clear that there was no evidence linking them to the murder. So for a long while the crime just went unsolved. A year later, though, something changed a short while after Fred's death Dali had begun a relationship with a man named ROY Klum. He was a friend of theirs from Milwaukee who now worked in Hollywood as a film producer, and for many months, they seem to get along and make the most of their new phase in life, but not long after they began to see each other Dali made a very unusual request. She handed him a pistol and asked him to dispose of it in the LeBron tar pits. She explained that. She was worried the police might find it suspicious that she owned the very same type of gun that was used to murder. Her husband and fought it might be better to get rid of it and keeping simple ROY hoping for his relationship with the wealthy. Widow to grow into more agreed to do it. But that relationship soured few months later and ROY looking back and putting the pieces together decided to tell his story to the police as a result Dali was arrested and put on trial for Fred's murder. Things got even trickier when the police came to arrest her and noticed that her new lover Herman's Shapiro, a man who also happen to be her attorney was wearing a gold watch identical to the one that had been stolen in the robbery Shapiro explained that it had been a gift from Dolly. The clues were adding up and as the trial got underway. It became increasingly likely that Dolly would be charged with the murder of her husband. But there was one major flaw in the prosecution's arguments one that her lover and lawyer Herman Shapiro was quick to point out. If Dolly was the killer. How did she get locked inside the closet? Maybe some thought the really was a phantom after all. Fred hadn't been the only person to experience unusual activity in that home sometime between his murder and ALI'S arrest and trial Dali had a friend from Milwaukee come visit her Marjorie tax new Fred Dali, well, and when she received word about the murder, she decided to visit Dolly and keep her company. Upon arriving in that big house in Los Angeles Marjorie felt as if something was off at I each hotted up to stain in a house where a murder had taken place. I think any one of us would felt uneasy in a situation like that. So it's hard to blame her for being nervous. But there were other things that contributed to her uneasiness bring sample. She wandered upstairs. One day when Dali wasn't home, but was overwhelmed by the feeling of being watched as if she wasn't alone the house made noises, and while it probably was the work of her overactive imagination. She still had a difficult. Time shaking the feeling it happened in the basement to and after a while she simply stopped visiting those locations alone. Once she even saw something a vision or shimmer activity from the world beyond the veil. She described it as the shape of a man, but fleeting partial as if the spirit were incomplete and on one occasion, the shock of it all was enough to cause her to pass out right there in the upstairs hallway. Eventually it all became a bit too much for Dali and her visitors. So in January of nineteen Twenty-three sheep sold the big mansion and bought a new home in another part of Los Angeles Herman Shapiro, moved in with her, and he continued his legal work while she took on the massive job of getting all her things moved into the new house all those closets and attic spaces wouldn't fill themselves after all and then in July of nineteen Twenty-three Dali was arrested and the trial began the case was made against her and Shapiro built his own defense. But in the middle of all of that Dali pulled Shapiro aside. And whispered cryptic message to him. He's there. She told him with a noticeable amount of panic in her voice. He's there. Two zero was utterly confused. But before he could ask her to be more specific Dali went on my vagabond half-brother, she explained you need to go. Make sure he has something to eat. And then she gave Herman instructions very specific instructions. Bewildered? But intrigued Herman went home that day and did everything Dolly had asked him to do. He prepared a meal probably placing all of the items on a serving tray and took it all upstairs not to a guestroom though. But the Dali's room once there he stepped inside the closet and doing exactly what Dolly had instructed him to. Do. He whistled. A moment later a panel in the wall at the end of the closet slid open. It was like a dark hole in his reality. A hidden space inside the home. He thought he knew inside and out here. It was a secret room that only Dali had known about well Dali and one other person. Hello Herman came the voice from inside the opening and then a face appeared. Over the course of the afternoon. The man in the wall told Herman everything he explained that. Dolly had always maintained a long string of lovers even when Fred was alive beginning with her affair ten years prior with auto, San Huber in Milwaukee and eventually leading up to men like ROY Klum and Herman himself Dali had never stopped cheating. Herman was suspicious, though, why are you living in the walls of this house? He must've asked him, and how do you know about all these other men the stranger in the hole in the wall, probably smile because he replied, I m auto San Huber. It was a stunning revelation auto San Huber, the sewing machine repairman that Dolly had broken up with a decade before was right there living in their home naturally Herman wanted to know more. He was an attorney after all, and he was very good at asking questions. So he managed to tease a bit more information out of the young men. It turns out that Idaho, never left win Dali pretended to break off their affair. He simply moved in and stayed all those times when Fred felt as if he wasn't alone as if someone were watching him and sometimes moving items he left around the house all those times. It was. Really just auto and he'd been there ever since moving from house to house as Dolly went through life for an entire decade auto was her secret lover hiding in the walls when he needed to and roaming the house when he was alone. No one had ever seen him in all those years. Besides Dali except for that one chance encounter with Marjorie tax who mistook him for a ghost. But oh had one more story for Herman. He knew what happened the night. Fred was killed, and it would change the way people viewed the tragedy forever. According to him the night, Fred and Dahlie returned home from their party. Fred was very drunk almost from the moment they walked into their home. The couple began one of their typical arguments. The neighbors had heard screaming after all and it wasn't from the attack. And that argument I'd acclaimed began to get violence. Fearing for Dali's safety auto told Herman that he climbed out of his hiding place in the attic and grabbed one of Fred's revolvers then as quietly as he could he rushed downstairs to stop the fight. Fred saw him recognized him and in his drunken rage began to attack the younger, man. It was during the struggle. The gun went off twice into Fred's chest, and after the older man fell to the ground auto shot him one last time in the side of the head. After that. It was a simple matter of hiding some valuables making a mess of the room. And then locking Dali inside the closet to make it look like a burglary had gone wrong. And for months the police had fallen for it. Herman was stunned Dali was currently on trial for Fred's murder, and here was the solution to all of their problems. So you might imagine that he called the police and had Otto taken into custody securing the freedom for the woman he loved, but that's not what he did. Instead he told auto to run. Trying to put ourselves in Herman shoes. It sort of makes sense Dali wasn't going to be convicted of murder. No one could explain how she could've locked herself in the closet with the key that was found elsewhere in the house. It was definitive proof that someone else had been in there with her and the court was convinced that someone was the real killer. If Herman brought to the police sure, they would finally know who that someone was but it would also dragged Ali through the mud and Herman's reputation right along with her telling Otto to run was Herman's way of protecting his future. So he handed the young man a bag and told him to pack and leave. And that's what did he headed north the Canada? Then Dahlie, continued on with her trial, the state of California spent a year and a half trying to prove the Dolly was the killer. But in the end, they couldn't do it. It couldn't prove that. She had locked herself in a closet after committing the crime sometime in early nineteen twenty five she walked away an innocent woman. Killer. They believed had slipped through their fingers vanishing into the night like some phantom or ghost. In the end that wasn't too far from the truth. The devil is in the details. It's a phrase we hear often, and it has a lot of meanings that project you thought would be simple, but turned out to take you twice as long that. I ki- bookshelf, you can't seem to build correctly because you missed one tiny little step getting pulled aside by airport security because you forgot to leave your pocket knife at home. Something's are often. Made more frustrating by our lack of attention to the details. Looking back. It's easy to believe the Fred should have paid more. Attention auto San Huber had lived in his home for nearly a decade multiple homes countless moments when he felt as if he were being watched as his home was haunted in retrospect, read was exactly right. He just didn't know it. The disturbing realization here is just how normal Fred was was just a guy with a busy life who was doing the best. He could to manage it. All but in the process, he missed some key details that could have saved his life. I'm not sure most of us are any different today, especially with the new distractions of modern technology and twenty four seven news networks, there's always something else to notice. But are we noticing the right things? I'm certainly not suggesting that someone is living in your attic. But we have to stop and wonder if most of us would even notice maybe Dali understood that maybe she knew how distracted people were. And how easy it would be to hide something as significant as a secret lover inside the very place, she called home, or maybe she just took a chance and got lucky Fred never managed to put the pieces together. And let's be honest. Would you? Like a lot of her relationships Dahlie in Herman's fell apart after a few years, he was disgruntled lover and probably had a bit of regret about sending auto off into the great unknown rather than turning him into the police, but in nineteen thirty a second chance walked into his life auto, San Huber, you see had returned to Los Angeles. He was living under an assumed name. Walter cline. He was working as a janitor. And he wasn't alone. Not oh had gotten married in the seven years since his flight from Dalian Herman's home. But how does arrest came as a complete shock to his wife? It turns out she had no idea about his past. In the end, I suppose things aren't always what they appear to be. Sometimes they're worse. The story of Dolly strike and Otto San Huber is a bizarre tale for sure and one that highlights how little we tend to pay attention to the world around us each day. And while I've done my best to give you a comprehensive tour of their bizarre. Love affair. I don't wanna leave. You wondering what happened to auto in the end the answer? It turns out might not be as tidy as you would hope I'll tell you all about it. After this short sponsor break. This episode was made possible by each and every one of you and by fracture fracture, wants to change the way, you think about printing your photos instead of printing on photo paper rapture prints directly onto glass, turning your favorite photographs into works of art. And they're absolutely gorgeous to I've got one of their print sitting on my desk here, and I absolutely love it fractures are so minimal. They look good in any decor. And ordering one is just as simple upload your image place. 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It was everything in eager reader wanted to know about so articles began to pop up all over one journalist at the time wrote this amazing bit of summers -ation, if you went to see the terror and the phantom of the opera on town movie Bill came home and read two or three of Edgar Allan Poe's choisir tales of horror, eight three Welsh, rare bits, and then went to bed your resulting nightmare might be something like this amazing drama that. Los Angeles police after eight years of delay. A finally uncovered. Idaho. San Huber went on trial and the press began to give him nicknames the ghost of the Garrett the attic phantom, one paper even called him the Batman of Los Angeles because he lived in. What was essentially a cave the dark and came out to do his business at night. It would be yet another decade before the caped crusader. We know today as Batman would appear in a comic book. But I know San Huber was apparently the first, and he was a bit of a hero in his own mind, at least during his grand jury testimony in nineteen thirty auto told the court about a burglary that had taken place prior to the murder he had managed to slip out of his hiding place and frightened the thief off by throwing a bottle of ink at the man after that he paid better attention to where Fred kept his guns. Just in case. In the end auto was convicted of manslaughter, but not murder and since the statute of limitations for manslaughter had passed. He walked away without any jail time. After that, Idaho, San Huber disappeared from the pages of history like ghost vanishing into thin air. Whatever became of him later in life is a mystery. The philosophical principle known as autumn's razor states that the best explanations are often the simplest we might have mines that are prone to while the magic nation and frightful stories, but most of the time that noise we here in the house isn't a ghost or phantom. Maybe it's just a noisy pipe or voices from the neighbors next door or just the wind or as in Dolly in Fred's case, perhaps it's just a person living in your attic. After all the truth. As I've often said before is a lot more frightening than fiction. This episode of law was written and produced by me Aaron minke with research by Sam Alberdi and music by Chad Lawson Lor is much more than just a podcast there's book series in bookstores around the country and online and the second season of the Amazon prime television show was recently released. Check them both out if you want more law in your life. 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