26 Burst results for "Franz Wagner"

"franz wagner" Discussed on The NBA Show

The NBA Show

06:59 min | 7 months ago

"franz wagner" Discussed on The NBA Show

"Feel like sharks, you and I have had, and I mentioned this at the top of the piece, I felt this kind of energy towards Kate Cunningham. You tell me if I'm talking about that all. Well, okay, you read the piece. I've been a long time kind of Kate believer. I know a lot of Kate believers, people who are into him, and there's been a dialog. About him, people that we've had to win over. There have been people in the middle like I'm gonna wait and see, you know, I'm not sure about him. And then there have been people who have been flat out like he sucks, you guys overrate him, you hipsters have done it again, that kind of thing. Am I being paranoid? Do you think I'm being overly defensive here? Am I right or wrong? It's just felt like there's been an energy to kind of doubt kade. That's what I've seen. I would say one, people love to doubt. There's always, there's no reason to not be paranoid. Everyone wants to doubt everything in this modern age. But I thought this sentence you had at the start. So to give us some background. So Kyle wrote a great piece rookie breakdown. And our original thought was, okay, let's talk about Jalen suggs and kade Cunningham, kind of the lead guys in this piece. So I'm like watching Phil. I'm like really breaking down pistons and magic games. And I'm watching these games and I'm thinking there's an elephant in the room here and that the best player of these guys we're not even talking about is Franz Wagner. And so Kyle, your piece and you say here you say, I felt that about cade Cunningham, who I think some saw as the hipster champion, a chosen one for larp or draft nerds who once again got excited by the idea of something rather than the reality. I thought that was really well put. Well, thank you, man. It's nice to get one compliment about my writing from John sharks. Well, you know. Well, because you asked me like, oh, where did you get the piece? I said, I what are we telling people? Why not? You already brought it up. I just said I thought it was really good, but just a very different style. So it's hard for me to really talk about how you wrote it just because there are so many personal anecdotes, which is great. It's just not the way I usually write these kind of things. So it's hard for me to get a feedback. John, people know we've established. I'm teased me all the time. I'm a hipster Y kind of a person. I have, I have snobby sensibilities. You've vowed at me. People know how our dynamic on that. Okay, well, I think the point is with K going back even to last year, Oklahoma state. And I mean, you said you know people who like hate everyone like Kate. It wasn't like Kate was some out there. People, there's always doubters, and I think I was a doubter in a sense that I was never quite sure, I never quite saw why everyone was so excited about. It always felt like he would make one nice pass, people were like, okay, this is amazing player. And I just felt like he was being crowned without necessarily doing all that much in my mind. I saw the potential, but I never saw the production that would indicate the potentials for sure going to happen. This guy, let's anoint him number one. That always struck me as kind of odd. As opposed to, you saw things, I mean like Evan mobley had offensively didn't have like a thunderous holy shit wow, this guy's, this guy's an unstoppable score, but he did things defensively, obviously, that were really incredible. I mean, at the college level. Yeah, it always seemed to me as more open. I was a mobley guy. It always seems to me more to open than people were making it out to be. And I think that's why at a certain level, this a little bit of a backlash started to brew because it was like, well, why are we so sure cave is going to be this all star all NBA player? Like, what in the numbers or in the way he's playing is going to be like, why is that for sure thing? And I think we're seeing it now, not that he's not a good player, but it's not a for sure. This guy is going to be like an MVP level player, which is in my mind how he was portrayed in college. Tell me if I'm wrong. Was he not putting that kind of category by a lot of people? I think some people thought that he was going to be MVP level. I always kind of had him like his ceiling to me was, I thought that he and mobley both could get in that top ten to 15 range, like players in the league, which is like, I think, extremely high praise. I think like people, I feel like the consensus has come down a little bit from that, like most people probably don't see K in that range or maybe potentially in all star. I mean, you think mobile could be the best player in the league. I think that's a pretty good draft. In a year that somebody's like that, but I think that you're right about the counting step production has never been a thing that is going to blow you away with cade. To me, like Kate is much more of a malleable, can go on or off ball, he's a flexible kind of offensive piece. And I don't know that he's necessarily like a dominant score type, which I think. But I also think that the thing that people got excited about and I make this point in the piece is that there was a player type in that 2018 to 2020 range that was putting up crazy stats, carrying the offensive load, getting a whole bunch of assist, being the engine of a heliocentric offense. And I think people got excited about that archetype and they saw cade and they thought that he could fit that archetype. Yeah, and I think the first thing to start with Kate right now is just off the top. He was listed at 6 8 two 30 in college, and then he comes to the NBA and all of a sudden he's 6 6 two 20. And that might not sound like that big a deal, but it really is when you're not a plus athlete. Like I put those two things, that's what to me is a big concern for cade. I watched him at the NBA level. I don't see a player with a lot of physical advantages over the guys who's going up against. He kind of looks like an average sized two guard, a bigger point guard without an elite first step who can't really just demolish smaller players inside or blow by slower players off the dribble. It feels like everything with Kate is really, really difficult. And he has a high skill level. So he's still able to succeed to some extent. But I watched him out there. I just don't see a guy with many physical advantages. And that's just going to make it harder for you to really get into that superstar level. It is, I think that's right. But I think he does have a plus four wingspan as something we should just mention. But I think that something I brought up in the piece is just that he had a he had a proclivity in the past. I remember when I saw him, I feel like he's lost weight and I think he's changed his body type and I brought this up on a prior episode. Whenever he bullies players and switches, and he did this summit, Oklahoma state. He did a little more posting up. He did a little bit more of that kind of like fall away game or he'd bully a switch and get to the lane and shoot like a baby hook. I think that he is trying to play in a style and in a body type that doesn't serve him..

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"franz wagner" Discussed on Game Theory Podcast

Game Theory Podcast

05:22 min | 9 months ago

"franz wagner" Discussed on Game Theory Podcast

"His handle and poise and patience and just like, he just like fucking processes the game and understands what he's doing out there. It's such a ridiculous level. It is unbelievable. Why and just like how he seems to completely be poised and patient all the time, like he's 20, and it's impossible to slow him or speed him up. Like he's constantly just operating in his own pace. Like he's good. The two reasons that I had on my think like 12 or 13, something like that. So I was a little bit lower. But the reasons I had him there were actually one thing that you brought up, I part of like the skill package with Franz was defense, right? Like, I thought he should have been in all Big Ten defender last year. I thought it was crazy the coach was left him off that list. I also was a bit worried about the way that it would look in the NBA because of his like longer limbs and I thought that it was kind of like a Robert Covington thing where whenever he guarded on the ball against higher level quicker guards that they could kind of leverage him a little bit. And kind of make him drive backward, or they could just kind of get past them in a way that was problematic. We have seen that in the NBA so far. Like you said, jaylen Brown caught him for a 50 ball last game. And it was not great. And he didn't just catch Franz Wagner, but he caught him for a lot of them, but then you made him, I will say this. It was a very loud 50 because it was a comeback. They won a 12 to two run. Not taking anything away from that. But France made a work. They weren't wide open. He wasn't had like those that's gonna blown by. He was challenging shots and jaylen Brown was a beast and the self exe in that game. So it was weird rooting for the Celtics in this huge comeback against the magic, but that's kind of the year that we've been unflappable nature of Franz Wagner in that game in that moment. And then the game or the week before we had 38 points. I never felt like he was chasing points. It was still within the flow of everything that was going on, and that was an upside type of situation when you looked at the makeup of the Orlando roster and he's exceeded that. He's not the connector thing is a very high compliment, but he's even more so than that too. Well, the connector thing is what makes him scalable to winning situations. Like, it'd be easy and a lot of situations to write off a guy averaging 20 points a game for the worst team in the NBA second worst team in the NBA behind Detroit, right?.

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Magic beat Hawks 104-98 in matchup of short-handed teams

AP News Radio

00:30 sec | 9 months ago

Magic beat Hawks 104-98 in matchup of short-handed teams

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"franz wagner" Discussed on The NBA Show

The NBA Show

07:05 min | 10 months ago

"franz wagner" Discussed on The NBA Show

"With Luca. But giddy, giddy, you're facing similar questions. And I think that's the threshold between really good role player and star players like how much of a load can you carry with your scoring? I was saying in a video that I did about Oklahoma City specifically talking about giddy and Shay's dynamic. It's kind of a cruel irony that somebody is playing as talented as a playmaker as him can't really score the ball at any level, like totally efficiently. Like he can kind of he's getting a little more comfortable getting in the middle of the floor like you were talking about and just going over people. He's a little bit more for as young as he is. He's physically comfortable doing that. It seems like? He has the YMCA game for sure. It's all YMCA. It's like dribble of 12 feet, throw up a hook throw up a floater, use your sides, use your angles. He's like, yeah, it's like, it's a weird thing where it's a Benjamin button thing almost, where he's young, but he's also really old because he has to have the old man's game. He's at a classic old man's game. I wish goodie, I wish she could shoot better. It'd be so much easier if he was a good shooter. Then it wouldn't be that big a deal that isn't great athlete, but it's a combination of being pretty slow and then not being right shooter that makes it kind of tough sometimes. Yeah, and it's like he's a pretty I think he gets underrated a little bit as a positional team defender, so he's not terrible on that front, but you just think about shooting if you're like an ultra talented playmaker like he is, like, live durable. He's got the tool bag. He's got all the left hand right hand, low angle, high angle, he can pass over the defense hit corners, things like that he is. But if people play off of you, that's just sort of the contradiction of today's game. It's like, those things are great, but you have to pull people out because they'll play off of you. About that. Yeah, go ahead. Don't you kind of feel like he is what everyone worried lamelo would be. Michael lamelo's worst case scenario is don't say everyone. You were worried that own it. Okay, fair enough, fair enough. Yeah. Sorry. Yeah, no. Totally. Yeah. Yeah. It sucks if you end up with a playmaker like that that can't capitalize on it. And that's the question for him going forward. Is he going to grow as a shooter? As a movement shooter, I'm not confident about it. Like much more like he's pretty okay, like stepping in to threes. Catch and shoot, he's okay. I haven't checked his percentages, but he was like, he was surviving, you know? But his efficiencies he was looking at they're kind of killed by the fact that, okay see, it's a similar situation to Detroit where both of those teams really struggle to score so that really kills both of their efficiencies. Last ten games he's been a little bit better from the line. I think that he could be a foul drawing type player too. Okay, see, kind of doing what we were doing with Orlando. What do you think the type of did they have anything worth keeping? Do they have any kind of peace that you think makes sense going forward? I think so. I think they're further ahead than Orlando. With giddy. Oh, you do. Okay. With giddy. Can I think Shay is a guy? I think shake can be the primary on a good team, which doesn't have. Giddy, I was watching the game. I texted you because the announcer literally goes, a nuclear from giddy. And I'm like, who shoots knockers? What kind of shot was he described? It was a spot up three. He's like, yeah, knuckleball from giddy, basically. And then the color guy's like, well, you know, you can just not close out on him probably. So anyways, with giddy, my father with this, here's my thought with him. I think he's actually a power forward. That's why I wanted to pitch run by you. He's big enough. I think he's actually a four, 'cause I think with giddy, you need faster guys around him who can shoot. And that translates into going up positions, being more before putting wings and guards around him, because yes, he could be a guard if you have a bunch of guys who are bigger than him who are faster than him and who can shoot. But how many like 6 ten guys can do that realistically? Do you have a hard time finding them? Whereas if you're okay, see, I think you move gear to the four. I think you have Lou dork. He's really taking a step forward. You have Shea. And you can get one big time wing who can just spread the floor. They need a classic two guard, I think. They have seen a 6 6 sky. You can just drain threes all day. And create space for giddy and Shea. I think that's the path for them is to have giddy play at the four. What do you think about that? I think if you can get enough ball skills like give you the switch ability, the interchangeability on offense. If you have a lot of players, so that kind of downplays the labels a little bit, I think. I see, what's the difference between a four who's bigger and can pass the ball and I see him more as like a connective playmaker. I compared him to like Alonso ball type, where it's like, you don't want to lean too heavily on them because you're going to be penalized if you do because of the shooting. But if you compare them with a lot of like we saw like the ill fitting situations that Lonzo was in early in his career and he was being leaned onto heavily to be like a primary point guard and we were like, it's just not going to happen. I don't know if this is working. Lo and behold, oh, he ends up on this team with a lot of guys that can create. He's flanked by two guys that can score past get to the rim. Suddenly you see him like elevating those people. I think that that's the situation for giddy. In terms of being as a four, is he going to be spreading the floor? Probably enough to survive. I think the problem for OKC is when you start to think about the types of players that would optimize what they have. Those are the players everybody wants. So they're hard to get. And for them, it's a question of hitting in the draft. I mean, they've got a draft really well. I think they've had some misses lately. You know, they passed on they passed on quickly if I'm not mistaken quickly and Jane McDaniels to get poku. That's right. They traded the two picks up to get poku. Yeah. Right. So that's a tough situation. It's just like the margin for error for them is really slim. I was just curious about big guys that I think are interesting. I think I pitched this to you. What do you think? What if somehow, I don't know how we make the contracts work? What about Bomba in OKC? What if they could get a hold of him? What do you think about that fit? He gives you the room protection. In theory, he could give you some spacing and hit some open threes, because and then I don't know, I like the idea of defensively what they would be with him on the floor. If he had Shay dort and then bamba. What do you think about that? I think with Bomba, I'd want a more with a Scotty barns type. I'd want bamba with a front court guy who can get buckets and pass him the ball and command the defense. And then create the real simple kick outs corner three shots. I think that I feel like a Bomba giddy front court. They're just not gonna be giddy, though. Why couldn't that be giddy basically? He has a score, though. I think he's not gonna collapse the defense enough to make that really work..

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"franz wagner" Discussed on The NBA Show

The NBA Show

06:33 min | 10 months ago

"franz wagner" Discussed on The NBA Show

"Right, yeah, yeah, yeah, we both have sons for people don't know. We both have sons that are similar a Julian as mine and Jackson as John's. But they put him in the class and he was the youngest kid in the class. And I like secretly did like a little like fist pump. Hell yeah. I was like, put him in there, baby. I was like, we don't want him leaning on anything. Make him swim. Let's go. So anyway, we'll see. He's interested in basketball. But go ahead, go ahead, go ahead. I would say with adaptability and this is something I think people might not realize or really surprise NBA fans who don't watch college basketball. Franz actually is scoring more in the NBA than he scored in college. Which you wouldn't think that would happen, but that can happen when you're a super adaptable player. You kind of mold situation around you and Franz in college. We don't get into who he's playing with, but he's playing with guy snee to the ball, so he made it work for himself. And the big knock on him coming out was he wasn't aggressive enough. Oh, he's this little soft, not aggressive, disappears in games. When actually he was just fighting the role that made sense for him on this team. Now he's in the NBA, his roles actually expanding, and he's done really well with it. A couple offensive bullet points on him that I think are really important. The first one is he is like a, I hate to say this, but he is like a real Scottie also is the same way he score more than he did in college. I'm pretty sure. But shooting evolution, this guy is an improvement driven player for sure. He's interested in it obviously. He's his first year at Michigan he was 31% from three second year 34.3 at Orlando, he's shooting almost 40% from three. I went back and I was watching specific types. A lot of that is catch and shoot. If he's creating for himself and dribble pull ups, he gets a little while with his control I've noticed, like back rims, things a lot, which that's an area that I'm not going to put it past him to grow into that. If he shoots like step back, he seems to control his touch pretty well. But catch and shoot, he shoots it quick, like you said, he's gigantic. I was talking about like with jaylen green where he kind of strikes me as like he doesn't quite look play as big as his listed height, even at 6 four. Franz looks like he's like 6 11, because he leverages his size. Now he's not finishing super well right now, but he has like a body type that is he's really solidly built. I think this segues into a conversation about who he is. We talk about benchmarks. I think the upside that I underestimated is his on ball creation because when you watch him at a legit 6 ten, solidly built, handles contact, he actually looks for contact and I think that's why he's not finishing super well. Is because if he goes around the basket, he likes to create the contact and I was noticing him try to create it and NBA players are smart, they were kind of like matador him a little bit pulling the chair on him and he would just kind of fumble. I think he'll improve on that front. But I think I underestimated his own ball creation. I see a world where this guy is a really good team defender, potentially could check bigger wings that like to score is a catch and shoot player and then tosses in a little bit of like secondary playmaker stuff. Are you seeing that with him? What's very interesting with Franz is when Jalen suggs went down, he broke his two weeks ago. They moved Franz into the backup point guard job behind cool Anthony. And he wasn't now he's not just secondary playmaking. He's just straight up playmaking. And he's averaging over the last 6 games, 4.2 assists on 2.2 turnovers. So when you're getting four assists and your averaging two to one, it's just a turnovers. That tells you the guys making plays moving the ball getting stuff done. He's a very, very skilled player. I would say with Franz, he doesn't have great. He's kind of the opposite dream that he doesn't have great wiggle off the dribble with more of a straight line guy. But when you're 6 foot ten, you don't necessarily have to have great wiggle, right? You're just so big. You can make plays really easy. And then we were kind of trying to figure out comps for. I liked what you made, you want to talk about the chart you made for us. Which has to go on Twitter, which you refuse to do, put it out there. I'll put it out there. Sharks was teasing me that I set the chart. I set the quadrants up wrong. I have my positive opposite. I'm not a math guy. I think you're right. He like parts the seas when he goes to the basket. He doesn't really have to be wiggly, but on the real quick on the playmaking thing, I think his pick and roll reps per game, I think his max was like 7. He ran like 7 in one game, and then when suggs went down, it's skyrocketed. He actually ran 17 pick and rolls in the game against Philly, which is like right when sugs went down. So yeah, he did go way up. He's an interesting player because I think that he's sort of that we were trying to dial in on who he is. We're trying to dial in big guys that can shoot the ball that give you some offensive versatility. They don't have to have the ball all the time, but they can kind of morph depending on the situation. Defensively, I made a spectrum between like Gallinari and like Andre kirilenko was one that somebody threw at me. I don't know that he's as the scope of his impact as wide as kirilenko defensively. AK was a monster back in the day. He was a good offensive player of the year type. Yeah, I really wish we could have seen him today. He was an insane person. But and then I made like a vertical axis of Asia as a shooter, like a movement shooter at like a legit 6 ten, and then Lou all ding is a guy that kind of came to mind that I think is interesting. Good, that's a really good one. I like that. You like that? Because athleticism wise Lua wasn't like, he wasn't like as bendy explosive as kirilenko, but he was positionally pretty switchable I kind of like that one, the more I thought about it. And it's like, he's not like a super knock down shooter, but he can hit open shots. I think that's an interesting one. Where do you land on him complies? You said you had one. I like it because it's so hard to make the cross racial. You just want to stick into the bucket of, okay, here's the spectrum of guys. So my guy I thought of for him was kind of on the Gordon Hayward Chandler Parsons range as kind of a 6 to 8 6 9 playmaking point forward type. Versatile on defense not an elite defender that can guard multiple positions, probably best in that secondary role. So I Parsons to me makes a ton of sense..

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"franz wagner" Discussed on The NBA Show

The NBA Show

05:13 min | 10 months ago

"franz wagner" Discussed on The NBA Show

"So this guy, the next guy that I want to talk to you about, I don't think that I was high enough on him. I've already had a couple guys that I've come back on in circle back and be like, I miss something there. I miss something here. This is a guy that you were very high on. I believe you wrote about Franz Wagner before the draft, didn't you? I did, I did. He was one of my guys for sure. What did you, why was he one of your guys? What did you see from him then? And how is he making you feel really really happy about how smart you are early on in this season? I wouldn't go that far. But Franz number one Franz is huge. He is massive for a perimeter player. He's like a legit 6 ten, and he plays three consistently. It's funny because in Orlando, they had these two, they had so many years they had John Isaac and Aaron Gordon. And a lot of times with these combo forwards, what's the rule of thumb? It's like, if you're a three, four, you really have four. And they were always trying to play Gordon Isaac together, and there was never quite enough shooting or playmaking to make it work. Franz is actually a legit small forward, and he's 6 foot ten. Number one, that is very, very, very unusual. That's a huge mark for him. Number two, he's a very well rounded player. I love well rounded players. Especially as you get bigger and bigger, right? A really well rounded 6 foot one player. It's whatever sometimes. But when you're 6 foot ten and you can pass dribble shoot, rebound defend. It's very easy to plug you into a roll, you're gonna make your team better in a lot of different areas. So I think I saw that the number three with him, I really believe in these when you go get one on one matchups at the college level for elite guys against guys who play their position. And I probably put a little too much into it where when Franz outplay Scotty Barnes and the NCA tournament, I was like, oh man, Franz is the guy. He just really got Barnes, gave him the business. And Barnes is great, too. But I think Franz is great. They are both great and Franz outplayed Barnes in the biggest game of their careers. That says something when they're guarding each other, and then the fourth thing never for always remember this Kyle, younger brothers. Younger brothers. Yeah. Whose brothers are also NBA players. They're always good. So I knew he had the bloodlines. He has mo and mo he's much that was shots my guy Matt dollinger. He headlined it, not your average Moe, my Franz Wagner piece. That's a 100% the case. That made him better going against Mel every day growing up. Yeah, I feel like we should list out all the younger brothers, obviously there's lamelo, obviously, I don't remember. Nobly. Well, Evan mobile. Well, okay, yeah. You could someone sent this to me. There's been books written about this. It's an interesting thing. But drew holiday was another one. Druze isn't drew's and the youngest though, Aaron's the youngest, indie? Yeah, but drew's the younger of Justin. And Aaron is really small, right? So that's the thing with younger brothers. If they're smaller, it's that if they're bigger, will also big younger brothers. Does that make sense? I think it's important, actually. Let's get into this. So you should write about this. I wrote about a years ago, but I think it's worth pointing out. The biggest problem most basketball players have growing up. Guys, you're gonna play in the NBA. Is there bigger and faster than everyone they play their whole lives? So they build a lot of bad habits. I remember so when I was playing, I actually got to see you remember this legendary Dwight Howard Josh Smith AU Boston Celtics to outlast Atlanta Celtics. They had you forgot the Randolph wars. Dare you. So I actually saw them play once and it was the stupidest thing I've ever seen because these are like 16 year old kids like grown men just dunking every single time. And if you're a Dwight Howard and Josh with the 16, what do you need a jump shot for, right? I'm just a dunker will and everyone all the time. And what makes a younger brother special is they can't do that, right? They're not as big or as fast as an older brother. They've got to develop the rest of their game to have a chance. Because this guy is going to kill them otherwise. If you're relying on your athletic ability, it's a guy three years older than you. It's also big enough that you're going to kill. You have to get bigger and faster. You have to develop the rest of your game. And then what happens with the younger brothers, by the way, Michael Jordan, younger brother, is they devote the rest of their game and then all of a sudden, their physical tools catch up, and then you've got a real monster. And like, what you're talking about with Aaron holiday, he stopped growing. So he was a younger brother who stayed a younger brother, whereas drew was a younger brother became an older brother. And now he's just dominating people. Yeah, I think what you're talking about is adaptability. It's adaptability is a skill set. We've talked about this on draft shows in the past. I'm pretty sure. But that ability, if you have something to lean on early on, I think that's why a lot of sons of NBA players end up in. They don't end up in these situations where they're leaning on physical tools. And you see that with bigs a lot. So I definitely think you're right about that. Like when the physical tools come lighter and the adaptability comes first, a little example I have a one and a half year old, and the school that he goes to. This might come up in this podcast..

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"franz wagner" Discussed on The NBA Show

The NBA Show

05:29 min | 10 months ago

"franz wagner" Discussed on The NBA Show

"It's not Jalen green's fault. He was taken ahead of Evan mope. That's not his fault. But when you look at him, it says, I have this guy. He's really good, but I'm gonna need another star around him to maximize him, basically. And that's hard to find those guys. And you look at the guys who are comparing him to Levine and Booker, their teams who are awful for years, right? If you have this player and the right pieces aren't around them, you're gonna be bad for a really long time. They don't make guys around them better necessarily. Yeah, and that can lead you to it's an interesting question to go towards a player that creates more of a context for other players versus and like, say, okay, that's that floor to ceiling range is something that we could go for, or we could go for a player that maybe has an upside that could extend our ceiling because of their scoring, but like you said there are little conditional because they need they're in this situation where it's like you would think that they need the ball in their hands like a beel like a Murray. But if you lean too heavily on their playmaking, which is like sort of a thing that will develop once they get towards their prime, you could end up with some ugly outcomes. What would we think of Jamal Murray if he had been on a God awful son's team for like 7 or 8 years? He was very lucky to be paired. Now, Jalen is not like a full fledged like chef yet. Like he's more of a guy who is he needs to be fed. I just don't know that you need to lean on him that heavily yet. And the other side of it is spinless and wiggly on offense goes the other direction on defense. Now he's being targeted a lot on which a lot of rookie guards are. He's young. He's 19 years old, I believe, but I had the stat in front of me. He's given up some of the, like, just on defending drives. He's giving up 1.13 points per chance defending drives, which is pretty high. So they're trying to keep him off ball and protect him as much as they can, but like you were saying even Lou dort really went at him. What did you notice about dorts? What was door to attacking him specifically with? Was he driving on him a lot? Getting rebounds? Anything and everything. Lou door had like 35 points in that game. I mean, he was just like, this guy's too small to garden me. I'm going at him. And that is where with green, once he comes back, okay, now we've got the smaller guard who needs a play mark around him, but also is not a big time defender. It's your past to building in the elite team, are starting to narrow pretty fast. And I think grain is a very, very good player. I think he could easily the big talking point with him before the draft was this guy could lead the league in scoring. And I think that is the case, but that doesn't necessarily mean to do on a good team. You can lead the league in scoring on a bad team pretty easily. You can get your buckets and it might necessarily mean much for the guys around you. Yeah, it's tricky thing. It's a slippery slope. But when I projected him coming into the draft, I said, I put his ceiling somewhere in the top 25 ish, like he would sniff the top 25. I know people disagree with me on that, but just based on his challenges and if I had to make a bet based on what the potential downsides could be, that's where I landed on it. And we'll play a little game with you real quick here. I want to call this, is there a world sharks? Is there a world? Where alber and shingun becomes a more valuable MBA player than Jalen green? You would go there. You had a 100% ga, there. I love that you did. There's definitely a world where that's the case. I mean, he's a guy because he's such a good passer. He's really a guy. He can kind of facilitate out of the high post, make things happen. He's a guy who can make other guys better. I think in a much more direct line than green, if that makes sense. Yeah. It's tough. It's an interesting, they got a bunch of guys. They're still figuring out. They don't know what they are. I do wonder to we talked about with green, when he went down and started winning. It wasn't just him, though. When Kevin Porter went down at about the same time, that was part of it also. And I do wonder if they had a more reliable playmaker. So I guess to go back to your original question, Shen goon really is his own thing, right? Like there's so much different things. Yeah. But yeah, there's definitely a possibility. I will say that for sure, yes. I mean, Porter is like wildly inefficient. I had written down here. His touch time, his dribble, per touch, is like up there with guys who are like perennial all star. And he's not an efficient shooter. Anyway, just across the board. K PJ is fun. He's the type of guy that lures you in. You're like, there's a lot of raw kind of talent creation talent there. So he attracts certain types of fans, no offense to them. But they're just a tough combo on that front. But for Houston, it's kind of like, you know, I mean, what business are interested they have in winning right now? I'm probably not a whole lot. So like with greens, I think the shooting is another thing. This is the thing you say over and over again with players shooting is just it opens and closes doors. It's the most important skill set and probably in the league today. His shooting has kind of held held form. He's career wise over every sample been in that sort of like 25 to 30 range and he's at 27.8% from three right now. Before we move on to the next next guys, let's take a quick break. This episode is brought to you by Xbox. Get the perfect gift for the gamers in your life this holiday with Xbox all access. It includes.

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"franz wagner" Discussed on The NBA Show

The NBA Show

05:27 min | 10 months ago

"franz wagner" Discussed on The NBA Show

"Elite passers, elite scores, pick and rolls all day, maybe some isos, triple the ball at the top of the key. That's their game. And then with those guys generally the problem is they can't play off the ball. Whereas I think you look at Jalen, what makes him special is the ability to go on and off is to play with other good players. I think he's got some passing chops, but I would, I know you did a massive breakdown on him for the draft last year. You had like a 15. It was one of your Kyle Mann like Lord of the Rings videos. It was a Peter Jackson extended cut. Yeah. So the first thing with jaylen green, like, how do you view him as a pastor and what's his ceiling as a playmaker when you evaluate him? Well, it hasn't been that long. He hasn't really changed all that much in just a few months. Yeah, for sure, for sure. I'm just standing that up front sharks. But I would say that the things that I'm noticing, you see this a lot with like scores kind of downhill scores or score first kind of primary people that are that lean that way is that they tend to see single coverage downhill pass is pretty well. And I think that green falls into that category. He's pretty solid at like if it's a single covered situation like threading it to his roller or if he drives and he sees a helper and the guy that is being guarded by the helper is open. He sees those pretty well. He can leverage his quickness, like we said, he can get into the lane. What I think is interesting is the scoring game that he has. It's all kind of dribble pull ups. That's what he prefers. He burns a lot of calories to maybe not get a lot of reward, which I think is part of the problem for him that he's going to be facing in the future. And if you look at guys that he's compared with, another guy that I threw in there is sort of an on off guy as Victor Oladipo, but to me the big question is the passing, I think he'll be good enough. I really do. I just think that scoring and ball handling and passing all work together in this sort of Trinity, this sort of triumvirate dynamic thing. I feel like a good finity shout out. Always. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, for sure. Go see the matrix, I guess. And what I was going to say that a big thing for me is body type. That is a big question for Jalen. Because if you compare him against Zach lavine, Ivan went back and like Getty images and was like putting them side by side. I was like, do I see it? Even Zach lavine had a little bit more of a solid frame. The bindi guys, I was going to ask you, who is the most successful star or scoring guard that is in his body type that you can think of? Because when I see his body type, he really reminds me of like Malik monk's body. Like he has kind of lean shoulders. He has that kind of lean torso too. To me, a big question for him is how much bigger can he get? But who are the guys to like aspire to? Because I don't know that he can get as strong as Zach lavine. Zach lavine's pretty pretty solidly built dude. I mean, yeah, Lavigne grew a lot. And I was like, yeah, he's like 25, 26. He's really filled out in the course of his NBA. And now, when Jack Levine goes to land, he can take hits. He can deliver contact. He's a big guy now. He's really, and that's a good question. I mean, monk is a good comparison physically. I was watching this morning a game where green played the grizzlies. And it kind of seemed like him and ja had similar frames. They're guarding each other. And then I remember watching a game where he played the thunder and it's like, him and Lou Gwen's are at the exact opposite ends of the spectrum, right? Lou Gwen looks like a freaking linebacker who's playing basketball and green's got much more of your classical basketball body. And I think it's a fair question to wonder how much bigger he's gonna get. He can definitely, it is important to say, even if he doesn't look much bigger, he can get much stronger. And that'll be really important for him too. It's just even if it's never gonna be like, oh man, this guy's two 26 four. He can still get a lot stronger and take contact more. He's actually listed at 6 four one 80 on basketball reference. So him and cade both kind of got chopped out a bit. Once I got to the league in terms of where they were, they were listed before. And with green, I think one, it's important to emphasize. This guy is incredibly fast. He was absolutely dusting Luke lens at times. Like you're not fast enough to guard me. I can get right around you when I want to. So that's like, that is, and you expect the three point shooting, which is pretty low right now. That should come around. He's a good shooter. I expect as the year goes on when he comes back from this injury as he goes into his career. Okay, he'll be a good shooter. He'll be really fast. But if he's not gonna be a primary guy, and you go back to that list of guys you're talking about when I look at him. I look at like, Murray, Beal, Levine. Booker, where do those guys all have in common to be on good teams? They have to also play with another all star guard, playmaker, right? Booker's got Chris Paul, Levine's got Derozan, beals got he had John wall, and now he's got Spencer Dinwiddie. Murray's got jokic. And that's the thing when I look at green and one thing I hate about the draft is it's become so much of a comparison game for a guy..

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Curry, Harris help 76ers hold off 4-win Magic 101-96

AP News Radio

00:30 sec | 10 months ago

Curry, Harris help 76ers hold off 4-win Magic 101-96

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"franz wagner" Discussed on The Lowe Post

The Lowe Post

05:24 min | 11 months ago

"franz wagner" Discussed on The Lowe Post

"Let's go to the magic who have two of the top 8 picks in the draft Franz Wagner and Jalen suggs. We will start with Franz Wagner who would be first team all rookie if the season ended today. 14 points a game on 47% shooting 39% from threes, top 5 or 6, in every advanced stat. And you mentioned a basketball player, like he's not gonna be the primary ball handler for this team, but he can be on a possession here there. He's a really good secondary ball handler, catching up, catching it off screens in the corner. He has a really nice neck for kind of just driving toward the rim and hitting hook shot. Like getting into a guy's body and hitting hook shots and floaters over them, moves his feet really well on defense. I'm very interested to see the tumor okiki Franz Wagner three, four combination for the magic. I don't know how Jonathan Isaac fits into that and they're 9000 centers. By the way, it's a miracle that banton did not end up on the magic given their proclivity for long guys who can't shoot. I don't know how he slipped through the magic dress. He's a smart cutter. The guy's just he's a good basketball player right now. He has been easily their best rookie. We'll talk about suggs in a second. I don't know how much I mean, I don't know if he'll ever be like a 20 point score in the NBA or it's too early to really put ceilings on any of these guys, but he's good now and nothing about it seems fluky to me if the jumper is real. Nothing about this seems unsustainable. No, I think it's also sustainable. And a lot of it isn't product of his experience at such a young age. It's funny, Franz was so we had him pretty high all year. I think in the top ten, most of the year. And he was the one guy who people would say, you know, I'm not so much teams, but outside voices where I don't really see it. Why do you guys like Franz so much? Why is Franz so high on your board? What does he do really well? And what he did really well is he was one of the best players on one of the best teams in the country at 19 years old, you know? And so he can come in right away and he knows how to play. He knows how to defend. He knows how to play off the ball. He's very efficient. He can score 20 points using like 9 dribbles, you know? And every coach wants that, right? And then his size, I mean, the funny thing with him is when I first saw him, he was 6 four, and he was like, 14 gangly, you knew he had an older brother and then every year you just waited for him to grow and grow and grow and grow. Because he had these high hips and he was kind of awkward, I had a little hitch in his giddy up. And now, I mean, he's like pushing 6 ten, you know? So I think now he's just starting to grow into his body and become this guy who's super versatile and can play anywhere on the floor. But I think it's his experience, man. He was playing Euro cup minutes, German BBL minutes when he was 16, 17 years old, with Alba Berlin. You know, when I first saw him at that tournament, when he was 14, that was an under 18 tournament. So he's been coached by really good coaches. Obviously playing for juwan Howard and then can come in right away, defend make shots and make the right play. So yeah, I think I don't know the ceiling, you know what I mean? Is he ever going to be your number two or three scoring option? Maybe not. But he defends. He moves the ball. He can shoot, and he's got a little bit of fire to him. Not a little bit. Not a little bit. He is a sneering wants to eat when he dunked on Minnesota in that game. I almost fell out of my chair. He likes to go at guys. Yes, like his brother. I mean, but he has no offense to mo, but a little bit more game to back it up, right? And so he's got that type of mentality. I think he's a killer and let's be honest, like he's been the better of the two picks by far up until this point. Oh, it's not close. We're gonna talk about sug in a second because I'm very curious about what exactly he is. But I will say, I feel bad for mo Wagner and I feel bad in the same way, but less so for Lonzo Ball because we in the media can't help but compare siblings. Like even when I'm talking to front office, guys and coaches about lamella would be like, man, he's so much better than Lonzo. They'll say that. And I'm like, who cares if he's better than that? Why do we have to compare to Alonzo? Why can't we compare him to like other people other than Lonzo poor mole Wagner for the third third string center on the magic Robin Lopez just, I guess is just going to Disney World. I don't really know what Robin Lopez is doing other than working out those guys in practice, filming skits with stuff the magic dragon about how they have buried their beef in are now Friends. I can't, by the way, he's gonna turn on stuff to match. It's happening. Like that's scripted into their relationship. He's gonna turn on him violently. That's how I don't know what else he's doing. But yeah, I love frans is just gonna be a good player. Like you said, you might not average, you might not, is he gonna be the number two guy on a great team? I don't think the killer would be the number one guy. Number two, that's probably optimistic, I guess, but he's gonna help good teams, his entire career. That's just the kind of player he is. And that's what they needed. They needed somebody to come in and help create more winning plays and winning culture and winning habits and all that. And that's exactly what he does and has always done. And he's still young. I mean, he's the age of a lot of he's the age of some like freshman, you know? So I think he has an incredibly bright future. So this is where I need you, Mike. I need your expertise a Okay. Because I need you to tell me what Jalen suggs is because he leads the magic and usage.

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"franz wagner" Discussed on Game Theory Podcast

Game Theory Podcast

03:08 min | 11 months ago

"franz wagner" Discussed on Game Theory Podcast

"Okay, let's jump in. Where do you want to start? Do you want to start with lamella? Do you want to start with pat Williams being out? Do you want to start with Anthony Edwards? Where do you want to go first? Let's start with some. Let's just start at the top. Why don't we start thinking Edwards? Okay. So Anthony Edwards has looked really good this year. He's, I think simplified and shot mechanics and a pretty real way that is going to lead to long-term sustainability as a scorer. He's talked a lot about defense early in his career and wanting to be great on defense. And I think that's a really good sign. His on ball defense, I think he's gotten much better. If you watch his off ball defense, he's still kind of a mess. A lot of the Franz Wagner breakout game that happened against Minnesota was, for instance, like him digging down onto a driver that he didn't need to dig down onto and then leaving Franz Wagner for an open three. Right. On a same side, kick out even. Let alone like a cross corner kick out. These are all growing things though. Like everything I've seen from Anthony Edwards so far says that this is the best case scenario for how the start of his career has gone, I think..

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"franz wagner" Discussed on Game Theory Podcast

Game Theory Podcast

01:48 min | 1 year ago

"franz wagner" Discussed on Game Theory Podcast

"And beyond that, they got that centerpiece and I don't think it sabotages their ability to get another. So I think the magic are going to be one of the 5 horse teams in the week next year. That doesn't guarantee you're going to get that player in the 2022 draft, but that's the they avoided the mistake that a lot of teams do, which is, okay, you got one guy that you really like and then, okay, Isaac and full to this front office just resigned. You know, you get into all that guy stuff. I was like, okay, you get maybe one or two, more bites at that Apple and so then by that point, so this is awesome. Great. Yeah, no. They have not hampered their ability to evaluate the roster. Other than maybe at the center position depending on how much Robin Lopez plays. But if mo bamba can't beat out Robin Lopez at this point, that's a problem. For Orlando and that says something in and of itself, I think. Just in general, this is the steam's fine. They're rolling right along. They are going to be bad this year. They now have a direction, though, because they have Jalen suggs. I'm a little bit lower on Franz Wagner, much as you are, but I still think he's fine and I still think he'll be a valuable rotation player for Orlando going forward. We'll see where it goes, right? So Orlando look doesn't matter if they got better or worse this summer, but they now have a clear direction and they are building around jail and suggs. And honestly, probably will be more exciting to watch at the very least. Maybe that's the way to put it, right? Yeah. And I think that there are big benefits to owning where you are. And I think that Orlando is going to reap those benefits over the course of the next year, but more accurately over the course of the.

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"franz wagner" Discussed on The Dan Patrick Show

The Dan Patrick Show

02:01 min | 1 year ago

"franz wagner" Discussed on The Dan Patrick Show

"Out. This is who somebody's taking moments before your network is announcing who they're taking. And i knew the first three picks but because there's competition with whoa jr and shams that he still has to maintain that i am. I'm the person breaks all the news here but it was. It was it's different when you're not like jay glazer glazer would do at fox wasn't carrying the draft. Nfl network was in the mothership. And jay would say hey. The steelers are taking patriots are taking and that was fine but when it's when it's espn who is carrying the draft woge. I was surprised. They said hey. You can still put the woge bombs out there. yeah polling. It does make a tough to watch the first half hour last night because you knew the first three picks so what's the entertainment value of that show. You know what's going to happen. The interviews are not very interesting. Analysis is fine but the only reason to watch a show like that is to find out the birthday present. The christmas president. Your team's gonna open up. I don't follow twitter. Not on twitter. Don't wanna know what's happening. And i'm thinking are the warriors go to take franz wagner and mclovin goes oh is putting out there taking commitment. I'm like we stop it. Frank wagner franz wagner. Where did he go where orlando. Oh your squadron yes my team nobody watches more orlando magic basketball outside of orlando then you yes mclovin..

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"franz wagner" Discussed on Big Fellas Basketball

Big Fellas Basketball

02:51 min | 1 year ago

"franz wagner" Discussed on Big Fellas Basketball

"I need to make him a star. But you know. I'm looking at the top ten from last night and franz wagner is one example that i love him he is one of my favorite prospects. I don't think he's going to be an all star. And he's not going to be your primary scoring option. Ever he could very will be your best defender. And he's a great great great connector offensively. In i'm really glad to go into orlando. Because they have guys that are going to be clear number one number two options over him offensively but if he went to another team they might have tried to force him to be something. He's not which is what it can be so debilitating to some of the top players so much based on situation so many people you started off perfectly beating my saying everyone labels the term buses being the players fall. That's not always how how lot of times it is based on organizational stuff. And you'll see right with those expectations being so high teams look to trade. Picks on draft is always those rumors fans always thinking about cable willing to do with these picks. The warriors have really expected trade one of or two weeks of the number seven number..

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Detroit Pistons Grab Cade Cunningham at No. 1 in NBA Draft

AP News Radio

00:31 sec | 1 year ago

Detroit Pistons Grab Cade Cunningham at No. 1 in NBA Draft

"The Detroit Pistons made Oklahoma state point guard Cade Cunningham the first pick of the NBA draft the six day coming in with the big twelve player of the year as a freshman averaging twenty points a game the Houston Rockets followed by selecting guard Jaelyn Greene became the first player drafted that high street out of the G. league U. S. C. big man Evan bubbly then went third to the Cleveland Cavaliers fall by Florida's the fourth Scottie Barnes in the surprise of the Toronto raptors Gonzaga point guard Jalen Suggs was then scooped up number five by Orlando who also took Michigan's Franz Wagner eighth I'm Tom Mariam

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"franz wagner" Discussed on The Free Agents

The Free Agents

03:19 min | 1 year ago

"franz wagner" Discussed on The Free Agents

"Wednesday july twenty eighth another dumped pod on the athletic network. Jd skeets wtop show hop trey kerby do the international man of mystery taking it to the max leila's friend Making all week long for us. Let me see if i can do a better job with this. Today it's andrew schlecht here. You did it. You gotta wear name that. I have no problem saying it. But when i see it written down like in my show notes at lake second guess myself for some weird reason that makes sense. Yeah you're every teacher i ever had. It's a german name. It actually means bad in german soon. Don't like your new tasks. Jd still on vacation. If you didn't join us yesterday. I think is back maybe at the end of the week. Jd though man. He's just listening to bob. Cajun on repeat at the contract. Hopefully drinking a moosehead or something like that so jd back next week. But we got andrew here. We got our draft coverage coming up later this week. Rain and talk to john hollinger tomorrow. That's gonna be awesome. A lot of questions for him about the draft. And then we'll do a draft recap show and again. Thank god andrew is here. You already knows way more than the rest of us combined though. These guys know t k. I know you did this as well. I'm sure it hasn't but a bunch of mock drafts. Yesterday i went. Mock heavy air like three or four. I know you were doing the same. Tk of course. I was gates I feel a little less draw to it this year after the ball lost their pick in the lottery. But if i were you. I'd be going crazy on the mocks. I can't wait to see where franz what wagner franz wagner. Don't call me mo on your. I mean i'm a michigan fan. I know who franz wagner is. I can't believe he's a top ten guy as going number nine. I guess he's got a soft promise. From the king's zach lowe podcast a soft a little known fact wagner means good in german doesn't A on the stream team joining us live right now on youtube. Please light comment and subscribe to note on youtube. If you miss the big news from yesterday we made some sweet ass merch. Just for y'all there. It is going to know. Dunks dot com and by these immaculate items. We've got a team shirt. We got a new no dunks variation colors team. Usa colors there for that classic logos charlotte. Everybody already grabbed one another flying off the shelves there over at breaking go to dunks dot com to get your stream team shirts or any other no dunks merch and keep your questions coming all week. Long for next beach seven podcasts. That's what we're doing here today. We'll get to them in a second but email no dunks at the athletic dot com or you can tweet him in if you want dunk or leave him in the youtube comments blow k. Before we get to our first question to no one's great surprise. Usa men's basketball team easily handled the overmatched republic of iran last night in the second group. A game americans beat them one twenty to sixty six trae curvier. The is.

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"franz wagner" Discussed on The Mini-Break

The Mini-Break

02:00 min | 1 year ago

"franz wagner" Discussed on The Mini-Break

"On tokyo on the for the only reason is. I just think it's going to be so different than anything. Anyone has experienced. And i think the fatigue of being so restrictive. I think it's kind of it could be anyone that comes through and wins it So he should win it. But i don't think it's a given based on you know just because it's gonna geez just announced on friday that you have to pick up your own metal. They can't even hanjour the metal so it's definitely a different feel you think. He picks it up with his teeth like it's wimbledon grass like crawling. Whatever watch this flexibility. Look what i can do. No absolutely but with that in mind of course again this week. You are with the tennis one crew covering all things happening at newport. I know you also just wanted to hurt my feelings talking to john using earlier this week. Ucla guard who yes ripped out hard but of course for all of our listeners. What do you have coming down. The pipeline rest this weekend obviously coverage for the nba draft on atv. That'll be in two weeks time. So we can see a lot of my work there as well is franz wagner that good yes you're michigander will be there by way of germany will be somewhere in the lottery. I think back end. I heard someone say six and i was like. Are we talking about the same. Franz wagner is a really that might be a little high yeah it feels on the high end but anyways. I'll leave the college basketball talk to you but andy thank you as always for taking the time stay safe stay healthy tell salad say hello of course and we will chat against him all right thanks. I'll take care hope. You enjoyed my conversation. With andy katz. Thank you to him as always for taking the time to chat again to hear about everything happening on the ground at newport. Go check out our friends at the tennis. One app.

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"franz wagner" Discussed on Game Theory Podcast

Game Theory Podcast

02:27 min | 1 year ago

"franz wagner" Discussed on Game Theory Podcast

"When I've been like, kind of doing math on my board in terms of like way, like who could he have there? Cuz I see real life in a real time. I was like voting up for that one, bracing for impact. I know you haven't been as high on him. I figured you probably had him like the mid-teens or so. Yeah, it's about right and wrong. I think he's fine. Like if he goes like number nine to Sacramento who like desperately needs defense, like I would have Franz Wagner probably pretty close to their for their specific. Great fit. Their yeah, yep. So like totally get it you know what I mean? Like I think there are situations where Franz Wagner is high is like you know 9 or so makes sense to me. Yeah. And watching and sort of re-watch me that he feels like one of the more safer place in the draft at 6:10, depends all over the place. Makes great reads. Defensively away from the ball too and recovers, 12.7, rebounds, three assists not eye-popping Masala phone numbers. He didn't struggle versus Scottie Barnes the tournament. And that was kind of one of these story lines of housing work in the NBA. If you can't do a virtual Scottie Barnes, he was very good. Can make plays off the balance of the dribble or two. And if he's cut off, you just skip sit-ups and keeps moving without the ball. He's not one of these guys kind of over dribble or for something that's not there. Knows how to read Defenders out of pick-and-roll. It a lot of those elbow pick-and-rolls throughout the year in the tournament. He feels like the as floor. It says basement like a high-level rotational piece at worst and I hope that people don't let that are ball in the tournament blind due to how much impact of the game throughout the year at home. Yeah, no I think that's absolutely right. I have them lower but I think there is a case. Basically, it's kind of make this work. You know what I mean? Like it. I didn't want to put them there, but I'm comfortable with it at least in a way that I wasn't like wildly comfortable with like I was worried for a second, you and Jaylen Johnson. There is is we were like going through it and I was like, okay now we've talked we had him in the in the teens and I wasn't regardless of how the the year kind of shook out of do. I just didn't show enough for me to include them. I know there's a lot of traffic people wage but valuing pretty highly. There's some NBA teams that are coming around cuz the workouts have been great. There's just too many, too many question marks on his game not even everything else went on for me to to have that high..

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Inside job: Michigan goes to the paint to top FSU 76-58

AP News Radio

00:32 sec | 1 year ago

Inside job: Michigan goes to the paint to top FSU 76-58

"The Michigan Wolverines flex their one seed status with a convincing win over the number four Florida state Seminoles seventy six fifty eight in the NC double a east regional semifinal Michigan had four players finish in double digits in scoring Brandon Johns junior hunter Dickinson each had fourteen Franz Wagner three don't thirteen and Johnny brown had twelve off the bench in route to the victory in an effort to keep up with Walgreens office of onslaught Florida state struggle from the arc missing their first nine before finally hitting five of their last eleven Michigan becomes the third number one seed to advance to the elite eight I'm German takeover

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No. 2 Michigan wraps up Big Ten, beats Michigan State 69-50

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00:39 sec | 1 year ago

No. 2 Michigan wraps up Big Ten, beats Michigan State 69-50

"Franz Wagner scored nineteen points and second ranked Michigan bounced back from Tuesday's blowout loss to Illinois by routing Michigan state sixty nine fifty hunter Dickinson finished with fourteen points and helping the Wolverines wrap up the big ten regular season title the championship is a great moment for Isaiah livers yes ma'am my checklist of returning back to Ann Arbor was to get out get out right we work very hard we talked about it but it through action I'm just proud of our guys and like you said we got stuck on a journey ahead of us we're gonna stay focused Erin Henry scored fourteen points for Michigan state which will finish with a losing conference record for the first time since nineteen ninety three I'm Dave Ferrie

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Dickinson impresses as No. 3 Michigan routs No. 9 Iowa 79-57

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00:44 sec | 1 year ago

Dickinson impresses as No. 3 Michigan routs No. 9 Iowa 79-57

"Franz Wagner scored twenty one points and freshman hunter Dickinson shut down Luka Garza as third ranked Michigan blew out numbered on Iowa seventy nine fifty seven earlier in the big ten and probably in the country so you know obviously he's got great skill and I just try to do my best to you know hold my own against Garcia led the Hawkeyes with sixteen points but he shot just six of nineteen from the field is Michigan became the first team to hold the Hawkeyes under sixty five points this season Iowa went ahead thirty seven thirty six on Garces three point play early in the second half but the Wolverines immediately reeled off a fourteen to run to regain control I deliver scored sixteen for the Wolverines who were coming off a ninety two eighty seven win over then number four Ohio state I'm Dave Ferrie

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No. 7 Michigan routs No. 9 Wisconsin 77-54

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00:32 sec | 1 year ago

No. 7 Michigan routs No. 9 Wisconsin 77-54

"Seventh ranked Michigan is eleven or no following a seventy seven fifty four drubbing of number nine Wisconsin the Wolverines turned into a blowout by reeling off a forty three six run bridging the two halfs Michigan led just twenty six twenty three before scoring the last fourteen points in the first half Mike Smith at sixteen points and six assists while Franz Wagner added fifteen points and ten boards Michigan became the first team in college basketball history to beat three ranked teams in a row by at least nineteen points Dimitra tries had a game high twenty points for Wisconsin which fell to ten and three I'm Dave Ferrie

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Michigan is as top team in their league

CBS Sports Eye On College Basketball Podcast

01:45 min | 1 year ago

Michigan is as top team in their league

"Michigan looks tremendous hunter dickinson is. This is one pat myself on the back here. Real quick this is when i had nailed before before the season started i thought hunker hundred dickinson was going to wind up as top ten freshmen. In america. this season informed by a couple of things one. He was awesome as a recruit and he was. He was highly lauded like blue chip of recruit. But he wasn't by the time he finished his high school career. He wasn't in that top. Ten range But i pre- pretty sure you saw him right alongside me In some of the games that he played on the summer circuit and he was great and knowing what michigan loss from a season ago and how. I expected him to be used. You know. I didn't think he'd be the team's best player. He's been the teams best player. I thought it would be isaiah. Livers in franz wagner and then dickinson three dickinson's awesome so Certainly a shout to him and he has been able to step in. You know as seven foot seven one kind of guy and just be a problem for opposing teams If you listen to the podcast now you're in on him early. He could be one of those players that once college basketball is more you know generally talked about the games are more prominent. The nfl season's over college football season's over you might start to hear a little bit more. See a little bit. More buzz about hunter dickinson but yes michigan is right there at the top of the league right now whether you want to argue is in michigan wisconsin illinois obviously rutgers and northwestern iowa who's the best of the big ten. Nobody knows but right now. Michigan is the only one in the entire league that can say it's played and not taking a loss and it's done that With eight games under its belt so very impressive right now and sitting at the top of the week.

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"franz wagner" Discussed on Sports Talk 1050 WTKA

Sports Talk 1050 WTKA

06:00 min | 1 year ago

"franz wagner" Discussed on Sports Talk 1050 WTKA

"Your metro Detroit Chevy dealers put it in D and C Y Chevy drives the Motor City, Michigan, shooting 50% from the floor. Just three of 15 from deep all of three for livers old two for Smith, one of four from Brooks. What have you seen from the shots for Michigan from down time? Most of the pretty decent looks good looks, but I don't think that this team is primarily built off making a long ball And right now with what they're built on, it's happening opportunity for guys to be able to get it in that painted area and finished around the rim. And that's what Sisters have to start taking advantage of an unnecessarily to three but kind of the mid range game. So if Love to see livers and Franz Wagner clicking at the same time. Michigan has the basketball to begin the second half, but they've got their starting five on the floor, including Franz Wagner, who only played those five first half minutes. He hasn't left wing driving left baseline. Reverse layup. Good with a right hand. Michigan getting Franz involved early in Michigan's up six. Yeah, Hopefully he has one of those Like I say, seven minute spurts, where For seven minutes, He just goes off. So he's been sitting for a long time, so hopefully he's ready to go. You figured he was pretty antsy after the two foul auto bench in the first half years, Fuller spinning lost the handle bank it up there, but they call it travel beforehand. Wagner pumps his fist. Hey, was happy with his defense, and there's Wagner impact offensively. Impact defensively. Well, you know what? He didn't know exactly what to think. He heard the whistle had his hands in the air. Never took his hands down and just walked away. And that's a good sign. When the whistle doesn't go your way. Go against you Whistle. Don't lie right six point Michigan lead Wolverines, the basketball right wing blogger, and he is fouled and another whistle benefits the soft more from Germany, its central Florida's first foul of the half. And they call it C. J. Walker of the soft, more. The Oregon transfer way, See as a Adams in four C. J. Walker. Walker. Terry, the young man is just dripping with talent hasn't fully realized it quite yet is he smacks of shared down in frustration on the bench livers at the point Give Smith right wing around a Davis head. She'll work to the right base line up fake picked up his bounce. Give livers right wing back to Smith in the corner work right baseline whistle inside another foul coming on central Florida. You talked about CJ Walker going over to the bench and frustration and knocking over a chair. I mean, that just echoed in here. If it was with any time for an official the reactor wanting to give a technical or something that was it, they ruled the Falun boldly off the inbounds livers left wing now to the right side. Smith drive from the wing of the block, and he traveled. It's a turnover for Michigan. Just the Wolverines fifth Everyone is introducing your basketball. Central Florida gets the ball back. Michigan enjoying a six point cushion? Well there, there's shows that Ms King can take care of the basketball. That was one of the things that we didn't have to talk about it at halftime was turnovers because he usually would be in double figures in their last couple games. High on the left May hand now, But the point is a three from Mobley, and it's good. Sean Mobley, the Orlando native, He's got his first bucket 40 to 37, Michigan. L. Smith at the Center Circle looks over to his head coach Juwan Howard gives it the head of the key to Davis back out on high to the right livers, liver supplying his first points now to Smith Pocket left around ahead from Davis works to the point backpedals, the left wing picks up his dribble, floated out right wing livers ponders a 34 on the shot clock. He sees it pushed past left point, Brooks Extra feed. Smith Corner Left of three is strong, easy board into the chest of Isaiah Adams for central Florida. There's gotta love the ball movement, making it extra pass shot just didn't go down. But I love the ball movement may hand right lock banging inside against Smith. He has the size advantage floats it up. They're no good. It was short. Davis peels off the rebound, his third of the night. Up ahead. Wagner Angles of the right block takes it all the way Ticket. Two livers on a fastball catches shoots it from three. No and a tap up it in my Franz Wagner, who yells out toward Michigan's bench. Wolverines, plus five love the fire he's playing with right now and that intensity and you know if that was one thing that I would like to see him pick up that he doesn't have his brother had was just that fire and that intensity And I think it's in there. He's just he's gotta summon it right. You got it right point in three and a tough shot from Green hits the rim Twice. Ball knocked out of bounds last touched by livers battling with Isaiah Adams, and it will stay With UCF 19 on the shot clock. Baseline, Right Sugar man is Dre Fuller Wolverines lead is 40 to 37 off the inbound jumper from the left baseline by Green off the hell livers and easy rebound. His third day, Wagner turns on the Jets, he angles to the free throw line. Kicks it over to Mike Smith that blocking fault foul called well after a couple of nights spilled to the deck and they'll charged on Darrin Green. He fell, as did Sean Mobley. And all I could say it's wild Miss can get away with one there to you know, Franz has to get down to the fundamentals and land on to you know, the official was looking at something else. And when he looked back, he just seen guys on the floor and called a block so This can definitely got away with one day I would have thought best case scenario for Michigan would have been no whistle. He slide, right, Davis. Now at the point, Wagner thought about a three wheel drive. Kick it right corner, Brooks wide open for three Got it and Michigan's up eight, its largest lead. That.

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"franz wagner" Discussed on Sports Talk 1050 WTKA

Sports Talk 1050 WTKA

01:31 min | 1 year ago

"franz wagner" Discussed on Sports Talk 1050 WTKA

"And affiliates. It's 43 36, Michigan in front of Bowling green. We're at halftime here today from Chrysler Center. Let's give you some of the numbers from this first half for the Wolverines. They're shooting 48% from the floor and four of 13 from downtown. Really all of the Wolverine. Success from deep belongs to Isaiah Livers. He has three of those four made triples. Leading all scorers with 13. The other man in double figures is the grad transfer from Colombia. Boy. He's been great Mike Smith 12 points, three of three from the floor, five of six from the free throw line. Throw in three assists as well. Also individually, Johns and Dickinson with four Two apiece from Williams and Davis, one from Shawn D. Brown, and the storyline will be watching Franz Wagner, five points, two of six from the floor left late in the first half. After left ankle injury. He was he walked back to the locker room under his own power with trainer Alex Swan. We will update you when we see the Wolverines come out on the floor, and they're doing that right now. Wagner is indeed trotting out. We'll see if he returns for the second half of Bowling Green Daequan clouded, leading the way with 11. Justin Turner has nine and six David Ziegler. The Falcon shooting 36% from the floor. It all adds up to a 43 36 halftime.

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No. 10 Oregon outlasts No. 5 Michigan 71-70 in OT

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00:33 sec | 3 years ago

No. 10 Oregon outlasts No. 5 Michigan 71-70 in OT

"Tenth ranked organ meats overtime top and fifth ranked Michigan seventy one to seventy eight and Pritchard pace the docks with a game high twenty three taking over down the stretch re scored fifteen of organs final seventeen points Anthony Mathis tacked on nineteen for a duck squad that improves eight into Franz Wagner tallied a team high twenty one for Michigan which face that fourth top ten opponent in its last six games the Wolverines overcame a sixteen point first half deficit but missed multiple looks in the final minute of overtime to drop their second straight and third in the last four games falling to eight and three I'm Deni cap

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