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"Man, what a disappointment. That's enough to date. Oh my God, absolutely just a disaster. Another Chelsea center forward that hasn't really hit the height. Yeah. So many near misses for him, especially I think back in that first season of just like all the almost that he had, whether that be goals that were scored offside or just goals where he had great opportunities that he just didn't finish, but it just, it just never, it never clicked for him there. It always felt for me it felt at times like it was close, but nope, no and they are cutting bait. Back to Leipzig ghost. So yeah. And the end of another, I mean, I guess you add them to the list, right, JJ? Yep, Adam's a list. You know, I was having a conversation with a friend the other night and Matteo Cajun came up and Adrian mutu. From the early years of the Abramovich money, two signs who probably didn't work out either. Yeah. Let's see. Let's leave the primary league now. And we want to talk a little bit about Barcelona. As much as we can really, they can't. So now, sometimes I think JJ about, you know, if something, if something feels strange to you, sometimes you just need to trust your instincts. If something feels a little bit off, it probably is. You know, like, I remember feeling that way when the TV rights were awarded for the upcoming world cups in the United States and they were awarded to Fox for free and like that felt weird to me. I felt like maybe something was up there and then you find out that like there's a lot going on behind the scenes and like Qatar getting the World Cup that feels a little bit strange and then you find out well yeah, it seems like guys are going to jail because of these things. This whole summer with Barcelona has to fall into that category. Like, this is all felt weird, but sometimes in the back of your mind, you're like, well, these, these are this is Barcelona. These are trained professionals there. These are guys at the height of their game. I'm sure they know what they're doing. But like, sometimes you just got to trust your gut. This feels a little too strange to me. Well, sure enough it is, and they can't register any of these players. Like, what are they doing? Well, I was just looking at I want to see is there a latest report here, Andrew? Tom Sanderson and Forbes is saying Barcelona's Frankie de young and Mark Andrew to stay in are set to leave the club as free agents after their contracts are annulled due to alleged criminal activity. So bombshell news reported on Monday start revealed how the club's current board led by one of the Porter have discovered that contracts signed by four players to young. And Clement Langley and Jerry PK during the rule of the port is predecessor, have been found to show evidence of alleged criminality. The club wants the arrangements agreed upon to be a null and the players to resort back to their old deals with the threat of potential legal action for all concerned if they don't toe the line. This is a very round the way innovative whatever you want to call it backhanded way of trying to get these guys off the payroll. That's the way I read it. What other way is there to read it? This is truly remarkable stuff. We heard last week that the palancas, the levers that Barcelona had activated to generate more money to get out of the binder in and to register the players they needed to. That was rejected by little league. So this seems as if the next lever is to pretend that the contracts not to pretend. I gotta be careful what I say here. To allege that the contracts that some of their players were on, that they need to get rid of to create the cap space was, in fact, they were illegal contracts and so it can be annulled immediately. This is crazy stuff. Yeah, and it feels wrong on many levels. You know, I think about Frankie de young, a guy who I trust him when he says, he's where he wants to be. He wants to be playing for this club. And, you know, just seeing the financial gymnastics that Barcelona are going through. To avoid paying this guy money that they owe to him so that they can continue acting irresponsibly. Like just all of that feels wrong to me. And like, I don't know how it's going to play out. But we need to activate the Simon Cooper. Yeah. We need to get someone on here to talk us through this because this is a I've never seen a club of this statue or go into this kind of mess. Just, you know, you've seen I mentioned crisis clubs before. We've seen other clubs, you know, fall apart and I say fall apart, but you know, really struggle, but a club of this size, I mean, not disrespect to legal united but there's nothing comparable to this kind of activity. It's truly bizarre. It's unbelievable. I mean, we're talking for anything close to it. We're talking about the max fishing match fixing allegations in Italy of about 15 years ago. Were top dogs were relegated.
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"frankie de young" Discussed on ESPN FC
"Man, what a disappointment. That's enough to date. Oh my God, absolutely just a disaster. Another Chelsea center forward that hasn't really hit the height. Yeah. So many near misses for him, especially I think back in that first season of just like all the almost that he had, whether that be goals that were scored offside or just goals where he had great opportunities that he just didn't finish, but it just, it just never, it never clicked for him there. It always felt for me it felt at times like it was close, but nope, no and they are cutting bait. Back to Leipzig ghost. So yeah. And the end of another, I mean, I guess you add them to the list, right, JJ? Yep, Adam's a list. You know, I was having a conversation with a friend the other night and Matteo Cajun came up and Adrian mutu. From the early years of the Abramovich money, two signs who probably didn't work out either. Yeah. Let's see. Let's leave the primary league now. And we want to talk a little bit about Barcelona. As much as we can really, they can't. So now, sometimes I think JJ about, you know, if something, if something feels strange to you, sometimes you just need to trust your instincts. If something feels a little bit off, it probably is. You know, like, I remember feeling that way when the TV rights were awarded for the upcoming world cups in the United States and they were awarded to Fox for free and like that felt weird to me. I felt like maybe something was up there and then you find out that like there's a lot going on behind the scenes and like Qatar getting the World Cup that feels a little bit strange and then you find out well yeah, it seems like guys are going to jail because of these things. This whole summer with Barcelona has to fall into that category. Like, this is all felt weird, but sometimes in the back of your mind, you're like, well, these, these are this is Barcelona. These are trained professionals there. These are guys at the height of their game. I'm sure they know what they're doing. But like, sometimes you just got to trust your gut. This feels a little too strange to me. Well, sure enough it is, and they can't register any of these players. Like, what are they doing? Well, I was just looking at I want to see is there a latest report here, Andrew? Tom Sanderson and Forbes is saying Barcelona's Frankie de young and Mark Andrew to stay in are set to leave the club as free agents after their contracts are annulled due to alleged criminal activity. So bombshell news reported on Monday start revealed how the club's current board led by one of the Porter have discovered that contracts signed by four players to young. And Clement Langley and Jerry PK during the rule of the port is predecessor, have been found to show evidence of alleged criminality. The club wants the arrangements agreed upon to be a null and the players to resort back to their old deals with the threat of potential legal action for all concerned if they don't toe the line. This is a very round the way innovative whatever you want to call it backhanded way of trying to get these guys off the payroll. That's the way I read it. What other way is there to read it? This is truly remarkable stuff. We heard last week that the palancas, the levers that Barcelona had activated to generate more money to get out of the binder in and to register the players they needed to. That was rejected by little league. So this seems as if the next lever is to pretend that the contracts not to pretend. I gotta be careful what I say here. To allege that the contracts that some of their players were on, that they need to get rid of to create the cap space was, in fact, they were illegal contracts and so it can be annulled immediately. This is crazy stuff. Yeah, and it feels wrong on many levels. You know, I think about Frankie de young, a guy who I trust him when he says, he's where he wants to be. He wants to be playing for this club. And, you know, just seeing the financial gymnastics that Barcelona are going through. To avoid paying this guy money that they owe to him so that they can continue acting irresponsibly. Like just all of that feels wrong to me. And like, I don't know how it's going to play out. But we need to activate the Simon Cooper. Yeah. We need to get someone on here to talk us through this because this is a I've never seen a club of this statue or go into this kind of mess. Just, you know, you've seen I mentioned crisis clubs before. We've seen other clubs, you know, fall apart and I say fall apart, but you know, really struggle, but a club of this size, I mean, not disrespect to legal united but there's nothing comparable to this kind of activity. It's truly bizarre. It's unbelievable. I mean, we're talking for anything close to it. We're talking about the max fishing match fixing allegations in Italy of about 15 years ago. Were top dogs were relegated.
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"frankie de young" Discussed on ESPN FC
"So many of the other players. Some people have gotten some of whom they haven't missed. What's been the talk about this whole situation right now, general with Frankie de young at Barcelona. Yeah, cave, my understanding is the same he's more keen on going to Chelsea than man united because it's a Champions League team and because apparently they would have guaranteed that he will have the same big salary as he's having right now in Barcelona. But his first choice, what he really wants to do is to stay in Barcelona and not to take a pay cut, which is something I'm not compatible to stay in Barcelona and what he is explaining to Barcelona is listen guys that you came in 2019 when teams wanted me. I decided to go to Barcelona and I have been navigating in projects with no future and trying to succeed in teams that they were not exciting at all. Now there is a project and exciting project. There is a coach. I want to play here and I want to succeed here. So this is Frankie the young position while Barcelona as we were mentioning that they need to get rid of big salary like this one. They need to sell in order to register all the players they have already agreed and not having to take more and mortgages that compromise the club's future. Well, we'd like to thank Gemma and James for being with us. And if you'd like to know a lot more about which players are deciding on whether it's Chelsea or Barcelona, you should head
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"frankie de young" Discussed on ESPN FC
"When I knew you were on the show today, yeah. You could solve it. And here we are. Anyway, what was interesting was Rudy ga starting at left back because many had thought that since Real Madrid signed him, alaba would go back to left back, but after the game, Carlo Ancelotti made it very clear that alaba and militia are his first choice center back pairing. He actually said alaba as a left back only when necessary, I do not want to change the pair from last year. He surprised at this rubber. To a certain degree, but I've seen Ancelotti's sides play for quite a one, particularly at nappy. He came up with this thing that it's a three and a half man defense. So the right back in the Nepalese case, it was the left back that would break forward. And the right back was more of a center half who tucked in. And that's what I think he's doing Real Madrid. And let the right back get forward almost be another attacking player. And they'll end up playing with a bat three with rudiger planners the left side is set up as he did for Chelsea on many occasions. Because he's happy going out into a left back area when the left wing back gets forward. So when they are in set play, it'll be a back four in general play, the right back will go forward and I think he would just tuck across. And I think it'll get forward of the highest term, but he's not the most comfortable in possession, you know, he's not going to run down the natural field back and whip a ball in. But I think what they have here in the back of last season in particular is to have somebody down the left hand side in Venezuela junior, who could be left alone. Don't worry about going overlapping them all the time. Just give them a bit of space, take the bulk to and let him go and do his magic. So that side is kind of taken care of as long as Vinicius junior. Brings the form of last season to this season. Riddick doesn't have to attack as much as if they were struggling on that left hand side. So if that's not too much of a concern, one thing that might be for Madrid is Eden Hazard after the lost T Boca said, we want to league in Champions League with this team and we have faith, but if Kareem is not there, then we are lacking a bit in front of goal or in the creation of danger. It is the first match. There's no reason to come to any conclusions. We'll get to the fact that you could see that Benjamin was missing in this one John, but Eden Hazard did not put in the best of performances, did he? He didn't. I bet he's not happy with courts one either because he's more or less saying without Benzema, we ain't going to score any goals. And they don't look like scoring goals. It was evident when you're watching that game. I mean, no shots on target for the 90. And they never look like score and edin hazard, as we know, wants to come short. He wants the ball at his feet. He wants it on his own terms. He never wanted to spin in behind. He had the perfect chance been against Garcia Andreas christiansen to try and test him in behind. And he didn't, he kept coming short and short and short. And the lads will tell you, when you've got someone that wants to come short and it's not blessed to a great pace, you can actually go really tight and get them on the halfway line because he hasn't got the pace to get him behind. So then you can squeeze up and condense the place. The only plane in one half of the pitch. It makes a lot, make sure your job is a midfield player in front of you, an awful lot easier. So they just looked like if they had benzene around the side tonight, Mariano came on for about 15, 20 minutes, and they got a ball down the left hand side. They whipped a fantastic ball in. He got a header, just missed it off target. You're thinking, if that Benzema, that's a goal, that's one one. And that's exactly what they're missing. And you could say they're lacking a bit in front of goal like cortois said, but they lack a lot more when they don't have Benzema on. It's not the player that gets them up the pitch, you know? Because quite a lot of last season, they played on the counter attack, particularly in the Champions League, where they allowed the opposition plenty of but when they won it back, Benzema didn't go and make runs in behind. He came short and found little pockets of space. And then he linked up with the left sided player, and he linked up with the right side of the planet, whether it be Rodrigo, Vinnie junior, down the left hand side. And that's how they got up the pitch without Benzema, I'm not sure how they get up the pitch. That's a big problem for them. And he walked back and he next the ball of midfielders and then they won it black and then he spun in behind some of the games I was watching and he was pulling himself out to the way there is when they were in possession and they were overloading. It's just a very clever player. But to go back in another rob when I were talking about this, I think it was Friday. I think we're on the same page. He's had three years off, basically. He's basically had three years off. And all of a sudden, I know Angelo talked about in a very positive term. But I think that's him just playing this mind manager trying to find a reason to be positive. He can't just you can't just say I'm coming back ten pounds later. This is I'm back after having three years pretty much in the wilderness. He's lost his confidence. There's no doubt about it. He's lost his confidence, so he doesn't want to go past people at the moment, because he's frightened of losing the ball. Even when we saw the clips, when he had the interview, we saw clips of him training. There was a couple of times. He tried to go past these men in the training session, and the defender just sort of got some get to go back and pass it back to the fallback. So it's his lack of that pace over 5 yards, which he had in abundance when he was playing at Chelsea. He's lost that and he's lost his confidence. He's not lesbian. He's not too much about how he's played. No, I don't care what they tell you and what he tells you. He's not, you don't come back. When you've made such a big move and that fitness state, if you've got real desire, you don't. Ronaldo then messes in Lewandowski. The top players carrying Benjamin, you just don't. The ship has shared with these Eaton highs. I've known. We have La Liga on this network. And we may watch this season, and he may have moments. There may be moments, it does something a bit like the old days, but it won't do it consistently. I don't think he'll do it consistently ever again at the standard he was doing it. For the reasons that I've mentioned, and that's a shame because we all watched him at Chelsea, I almost carry this team for four or 5 years or whatever it was. As rob was saying, gone past people have been kept and picking them. It was probably one of the most kick people, but it pecked himself up. He was bruised and got on with it. There would be end product. But in my own opinion, it got this big move and he was happy and he was happy with the move. But when you got around Madrid, you want to be happy with the move, but go on and have that desire to be an even better player. He's never done that. Yeah, what we've been talking often about whether Frankie de young will be staying in La Liga next season. He might be changing positions if he does. He played at center back alongside PK and after the game, chubby said. I'm not here to send messages. I already spoke with Frankie. I value him very much. He's a key player, but then there's the economic situation and financial fair play. He can give us a lot also as a center back.
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"frankie de young" Discussed on ESPN FC
"What's it called? Georgia steinway something in the back of the net and England can smell glory. What a feeling it must be to score a goal like that in a situation. Yeah, I took the adrenaline rush. Tunes equalizer was just, I mean, it was so against our owner player. This was going one way. England were going out, spam, we're going through, they worked a decent cross to the back pause, the header down, tuna rising, almost in lamp parody in style, getting on to something in the box and score and Spain collapse a little bit after that. But there was times when who was it that came on? Del Castillo came on. And was running at Rachel dearly, and just turned this woman where she just turned her inside out, like broke her ankles. It was, it was one of those. Remember, who was it that Messi? Went around again. It was against Byron Munich, who was the defender. I was both? I don't know if it was Bolton. Bo Tang, I think it was. And he spawned him into a knot, and people made this meme where the ground opens up, and he's falling through time and space. I mean, that's what Spain were doing to the English defense at times. It's a travesty. All right. Travesty, but that's football. There's no deserving in football. You don't deserve anything. You just get whatever you get at the end of the whistle. That's just the game, because if there was deserving in football, Spain will be true. And England go on. Yeah, so England go off. I guess that's all you say about it. You need consoling? No, I mean, English failure in a summer tournament is it's part of what I want in my life. It's what I've grown up with. So this was a bit hopefully this is just a little bump in the road. This is an ugly side of you. It's not. It's not okay. Do you understand rivalries? No, explain them to me. Oh, okay. Right. Tomorrow, by the way, Germany and Austria. Austria will make it difficult, but the Germans should get through that. Sweden, Belgium, on Friday, Sweden need to a big performance. They need to lift it a bit. There's been a little bit turgid. France and the Netherlands on Saturday. That one, I don't know. That's a tough one. I think the Netherlands should prevail, but narrowly. Something that has caught our eye in preseason. I'm going to go here, JJ, I guess this kind of serves as a nice bookend for the podcast. We started with Barcelona. I'm going to mention them here. They're in the U.S.. They faced inter Miami yesterday. This was a, I mean, this was a true thumping. Like I said, don't read too deeply into these things. But the way Miami were talking about this game, it seemed like they were valuing it. They wanted to put up a good show. That one shot zero on target. 6 handled. 6 zero and encouraging too if you look at Barcelona's list of goal scorers, a bombing rafinha and sufate gavi Memphis, usman dembele. Like guys that you want to see performing well. But in particular, it was Memphis goal. Where it was one of those, I didn't watch the game live. So I caught up on it on Twitter when I saw highlights posted. It was one of those where I'm sitting there kind of with my computer. Okay, rafina, that's a nice one. His goal was beautiful, by the way. But it was one of those where I audibly gasped at the way Memphis goal played out, where he, I mean, you talk about the ground opening up between underneath somebody after being shook. I mean, what meant this does to Damien low? I mean, he sends him from Miami to west palm. He's out of the zip code. If you haven't seen it, I don't really know. I don't really have the words to describe the way Memphis just takes him out of the play to open things up in front of him for an easy goal, but you gotta look it up. It's sensational stuff. I mentioned earlier about Memphis to pie that if I had to guess when it's all said and done for Barcelona this summer, Frankie de young, I do think eventually that will come to a head and he'll go. And I think Memphis depay will go as well. You've already seen him linked in rumors with certain clubs, Tottenham have been brought up, there's some, at Manchester United, some fans that I've seen wanting him to return there. And it's interesting. If you're wondering whether or not he'll go, if this is just kind of being invented out of nowhere, I found this, listen to this. This is a recent interview that Jean Laporte gave to tudan, where he said this. He said Lewandowski is a born goal scorer, different from what we've had. I think Johann would have liked him. I assume. With rafinha dembele Ferran Torres, who has goals and potential and su fathi abama Yang, Abe's progressing well, we have an attack that is sure to put on a show. What was missing from that? He mentioned all those names of all their attacking prowess, didn't mention Memphis to pie. Is that an oversight? Or is that a guy that he's not planning on being part of their future plans? I don't think that Memphis is in their future plans. They got to get rid of somebody. Yeah. They just have to. And the people they get rid of, it's not that they're not good. They have to get rid of good players specifically because they need money. You don't get money for bad players.
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"frankie de young" Discussed on Caught Offside
"What's it called? Georgia steinway something in the back of the net and England can smell glory. What a feeling it must be to score a goal like that in a situation. Yeah, I took the adrenaline rush. Tunes equalizer was just, I mean, it was so against our owner player. This was going one way. England were going out, spam, we're going through, they worked a decent cross to the back pause, the header down, tuna rising, almost in lamp parody in style, getting on to something in the box and score and Spain collapse a little bit after that. But there was times when who was it that came on? Del Castillo came on. And was running at Rachel dearly, and just turned this woman where she just turned her inside out, like broke her ankles. It was, it was one of those. Remember, who was it that Messi? Went around again. It was against Byron Munich, who was the defender. I was both? I don't know if it was Bolton. Bo Tang, I think it was. And he spawned him into a knot, and people made this meme where the ground opens up, and he's falling through time and space. I mean, that's what Spain were doing to the English defense at times. It's a travesty. All right. Travesty, but that's football. There's no deserving in football. You don't deserve anything. You just get whatever you get at the end of the whistle. That's just the game, because if there was deserving in football, Spain will be true. And England go on. Yeah, so England go off. I guess that's all you say about it. You need consoling? No, I mean, English failure in a summer tournament is it's part of what I want in my life. It's what I've grown up with. So this was a bit hopefully this is just a little bump in the road. This is an ugly side of you. It's not. It's not okay. Do you understand rivalries? No, explain them to me. Oh, okay. Right. Tomorrow, by the way, Germany and Austria. Austria will make it difficult, but the Germans should get through that. Sweden, Belgium, on Friday, Sweden need to a big performance. They need to lift it a bit. There's been a little bit turgid. France and the Netherlands on Saturday. That one, I don't know. That's a tough one. I think the Netherlands should prevail, but narrowly. Something that has caught our eye in preseason. I'm going to go here, JJ, I guess this kind of serves as a nice bookend for the podcast. We started with Barcelona. I'm going to mention them here. They're in the U.S.. They faced inter Miami yesterday. This was a, I mean, this was a true thumping. Like I said, don't read too deeply into these things. But the way Miami were talking about this game, it seemed like they were valuing it. They wanted to put up a good show. That one shot zero on target. 6 handled. 6 zero and encouraging too if you look at Barcelona's list of goal scorers, a bombing rafinha and sufate gavi Memphis, usman dembele. Like guys that you want to see performing well. But in particular, it was Memphis goal. Where it was one of those, I didn't watch the game live. So I caught up on it on Twitter when I saw highlights posted. It was one of those where I'm sitting there kind of with my computer. Okay, rafina, that's a nice one. His goal was beautiful, by the way. But it was one of those where I audibly gasped at the way Memphis goal played out, where he, I mean, you talk about the ground opening up between underneath somebody after being shook. I mean, what meant this does to Damien low? I mean, he sends him from Miami to west palm. He's out of the zip code. If you haven't seen it, I don't really know. I don't really have the words to describe the way Memphis just takes him out of the play to open things up in front of him for an easy goal, but you gotta look it up. It's sensational stuff. I mentioned earlier about Memphis to pie that if I had to guess when it's all said and done for Barcelona this summer, Frankie de young, I do think eventually that will come to a head and he'll go. And I think Memphis depay will go as well. You've already seen him linked in rumors with certain clubs, Tottenham have been brought up, there's some, at Manchester United, some fans that I've seen wanting him to return there. And it's interesting. If you're wondering whether or not he'll go, if this is just kind of being invented out of nowhere, I found this, listen to this. This is a recent interview that Jean Laporte gave to tudan, where he said this. He said Lewandowski is a born goal scorer, different from what we've had. I think Johann would have liked him. I assume. With rafinha dembele Ferran Torres, who has goals and potential and su fathi abama Yang, Abe's progressing well, we have an attack that is sure to put on a show. What was missing from that? He mentioned all those names of all their attacking prowess, didn't mention Memphis to pie. Is that an oversight? Or is that a guy that he's not planning on being part of their future plans? I don't think that Memphis is in their future plans. They got to get rid of somebody. Yeah. They just have to. And the people they get rid of, it's not that they're not good. They have to get rid of good players specifically because they need money. You don't get money for bad players.
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"frankie de young" Discussed on ESPN FC
"To be honest with you, three or four months ago, we didn't think that was the case. Not just that they wouldn't win the league, but we felt looking at them. They couldn't win the league. They definitely can now. Obviously, though, they need to sort everything out because you've got so many players here at the moment and said, there needs to be some that go through the exit door. We talk about young in a minute. Memphis depay is the latest one apparently who Barcelona wants to get rid of. It's interesting. It's like 12 months ago when we were sat there at the camp now. He was the only really shining star for Barcelona. Yeah, he really stood out, didn't he at the start of the season. One of the reasons we talked about this earlier on last season is certainly the first two or three months of the season. One of the reasons why you really stood out, it looked like he didn't care. He didn't care that the guy that was there before was Leo Messi didn't care that this was Barcelona. He didn't care this was a club full of pressure. He would go through that. He had the strength of personality, the character, to continue to perform. Now, of course, he's in a difficult position, which is that for all of those qualities and for all those things that he showed last season, maybe he's not a Barcelona player, at least under chavi, and in particular, with these kind of players ahead of him. You just showed it on the screen there. Those 6 potential forwards, and of course that doesn't include him. Now you're looking at two basic forward lines, which both of which are very strong. And he doesn't really have a place neither and now I personally felt last season that his best performances came when he was able to be if you like the forward off whom fatty played. And those two seem to combine really well. But I must admit with the new arrivals I don't really see a role for him and we should never ever look at this beyond the economic side of things as well. If this is a player with a market, where you can generate some money through his transfer as well as saving his salary although saving the salary is not hugely important because he came last season on a relatively low salary. If you can generate some money through selling him, it's absolutely no doubt that Barcelona would leap at that opportunity if it arises. 12 months a long time for Memphis depay. And you are so correct and bringing up the fact that when we sat at the camp now and they were playing against ray associated that opening game of the season. The first touch that Memphis at pi took on the ball, he showed for it, flicked the ball up in the air and put it over the top of the head of the defender who was coming to challenge and the whole time now was like wait a minute we got something here. We got something special and for the first few weeks of the season, you were thinking is this guy going to be good enough to carry the responsibility that somehow the conversation is no longer by Leonel Messi and it is about what the future of Barcelona is going to be with Memphis the pie. And now 12 months later, he gone. He gone because the math doesn't add up and really the space doesn't add up. There is no space for Memphis pie and for his profile player. They're going to find him a new place. He's got to find a new place because otherwise he's not going to be on the field. How do you deal with this from Chavez perspective, Stevie? Because we talk a lot, don't we about not only keeping the starting 11 happy, but those that aren't. And you've just got such an influx of attackers within this squad. You can only be honest with them. Chavis made it clear that Memphis departs 90s plants. And I'm pretty sure Memphis Dubai knows this. Right. You know, you bring in a Bama Yang, that tells me if it's the pie straight away, it doesn't particularly trust me. No, you're bringing Lewandowski in as well. So Memphis depay should be set and going right. I just need to find a way out here. He's made it clear. And as I said, I found a mama's coach. I'm seeing Tim look. I think you can do a good thing. I think you're good at this. You're good at that. But you don't shoot the way I want to play. And so, you know, I'll try and get you some games, but the truth is you're probably better off not being here. You just have to be honest, we are gay at that. Because if you try and be clever and treat them badly or poorly, he makes on run and see, well, you know what? You don't need money. I'm going nowhere. Right. So it's not straightforward. But you've got to be nice. And it's no secret, obviously, that Barcelona need money and need to free up spaces. Hence, Frankie de young is someone that we've talked a lot about over the last few weeks in his future, said. What's the latest?
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"Who knows that IX team well. There are many clubs that want him not just man united. We have no intention of selling him. He wants to stay. I'm going to do everything to keep Frankie, but there's also a salary issue that would have to be adjusted. Now, not only that. Here's a sport cover too. So this is a little favor now for do you want laporta, a teeny tiny paper of €207.5 million to of course now spend on these transfers. We heard from Dima soler yesterday, telling us a little bit about what the plan is now to get several players and now apparently in that plan is still Frankie de young. Does it surprise you to see la porta saying this today? Yeah, a little bit. It surprised me to hear him say it in terms that seems so decisive. I think one of the things that was interesting though is watching him say this, this was an event to honor giant Croix today. He was very calm. He stood in a circle of journeys for about 15 minutes and talked through all sorts of elements of what Barcelona are going to do now. It wasn't a kind of a classic laporta performance. It wasn't bombastic. It wasn't pugnacious, albeit the words were written in black and white looked very, very strong indeed. I must admit I thought they were a little more tempered than they look in black and white. I think he was calm about it. And of course, he said, but of course there needs to be a conversation about the salaries of players. And so I think we have to look at this in the context of the fact that we know they're in negotiations ongoing with Manchester United. We know that when you say I'm going to do everything I can for him not to go, there is still a possibility that he does go because of course you need the economic impact that a sale of this would have on the club. We know that it's not just sporting criterion play. There are economic criteria playing as well. But it was quite striking to hear him say this that I want to keep him. I think in a way this is a message, isn't it? It's a message to frankly young that if you are going to stay, we need to talk very, very seriously about your salary and we need to look into that, not just frankly the arms, by the way, but everybody's. And perhaps.
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"With Barcelona. It could be a deal that's dependent on whether Frankie de young leaves Barcelona. This is Pep Guardiola talking about Bernardo Silva's future. He says, as of today, I think Bernardo will continue at man city next season, but as I always said, I don't like to keep players that are unhappy. What are your thoughts on this Nathan? What pep said and the potential move for Bernardo silver away from city? I think there were rumors of him leaving I think it was the end of last season a year ago. And there's still circulated that maybe he's unhappy with certain things that go on at the club. It doesn't seem like he's unhappy with his teammates, but maybe he doesn't get on with the manager that well. I think in Pepsi, you know, if he's unhappy at the football club, he sort of wonder like for Bernardo Silva, considering he played probably 18, 90% of the games were started that many games, like why would you be unhappy when you play in weekend weekend? You play in that well. So there must be something else there. So if the link is there, Bernardo's not willing to sort of squash it himself and say he wants to be a city next season, then what that said, that's in play in his cards based on the season that he's had. And for pet, I think it's fair to say you don't want any players there who are unhappy because it might upset the whole team and I think when you see with a sort of success that some sides have. That's not because one or two players are good and feel it themselves is because of the collective or working hard together who really believe in each other I feel you can have disagreements and stuff. But if there's any sort of cancer within the team, that can spread so quickly and ruin any sort of momentum that you have. So I think for this situation with Bernardo, be sad to see him leave a special after the season that he's just had and you're thinking, you know, he's not like he's 33 34 years of age, who is the guy who can.
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"A day and still with us for this one. Can you see this happening, Jules? Yes, definitely. It's only fit is like now, Frankie, the young is there been more up for the move, let's be honest, I think there was a time where he wanted to join a club. First, if you want to leave Barcelona, then secondly, if it was to leave it with folks that are played in the Champions League, which is not united case, of course, there will be in the European league. So I think this was your conference. I think that this was an issue too. It seems that it's a bit more keen to go. And yet it makes a lot of sense. However, Barcelona need a lot of money and we know how financially the situation is dire. So we'll united accept the terms that Barcelona are going to sell, which he's around a €100 million, which is a lot of money for a midfielder like him. Secondly, let's not forget that it's not just Frankie the young on his own in midfield. They're going to make it all good for united. They will need more midfielders. They will need a proper holding midfielder, which is not really what the young is about. The young as we've just heard, is a grade for that transition between defense and midfield. It should be your first option as a pass if you're a united defender. But you also need someone next to him who will also defend the law because he's carrying the ball and his intelligence is of the shot, but he still needs someone who works next to him too, which they don't have right now. Don't give me this call back to me now, please here. So it's not just him. However, if you can get him, then he's obviously a huge added value to your squad. And you've been calling La Liga this season. You've seen Frankie Deon playing for Barcelona. Can you see him fitting in at Manchester United, especially given the fact that Eric ten hug is going to be there? Yeah, linking up with his old coach again. It all kind of makes sense from that point of view. I think Manchester United are crying out for a dominant personality to play in between. They're going to lose matics. They're going to lose matter not that he played much. They're going to lose power as well. So Frankie Deon could be the big star of the midfield. And the point that you made earlier is a good one that at Barcelona, he's not necessarily. He's just one of them. I'm Gabby and Bruce gets and the rest of it in that midfield. So I think it's a nice stage. I think the big question is, does Frankie de Jong actually want to go and play in a club that are not in the Champions League because that's where Manchester United are at the moment that he might be getting advice to say, look, it's a great sage for you. So yeah, you could see it happening if they can make the money make sense. Barcelona. Probably only want to sell him because they need to do deals. We know their skin. And if they want to get Bernardo Silva, they talk of that from Manchester City where they're going to have to get the young sold. So it'll be a great deal, I think for Manchester United to get Frankie to young and it would be a big statement if they got him. Well, you mentioned it there. The Bernardo silver rumors right now could be dependent on if Frankie de young does moved on linked yesterday as we talked about mundo Deportivo saying.
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"Makes getting haircuts effortless. It's not just any haircut. It's super cut. Check in now on the supercuts app or on supercuts dot com. It's so easy for you, Andrew, because you don't actually have to get your hair cut. You just clip off that LEGO man here you have and put on a different style. I don't go. I remove it. I go to supercuts. I drop it off. I go run my errands. They say come back in ten minutes. Well, we'll fix it up for you. I come back and then they replace it back on my head. It's amazing. Yeah. Couldn't be easier. All right, so we went through the favorites JJ. Let's go for some of the teams that we think actually, maybe are flying under the radar that have a good chance of maybe kind of upending some of these favorites. The dark horses. Now, I've got I've got two here. How do you want to do this? You want to go back and forth, let me just let me just start with a team because I feel weird calling them dark horses when they've been, you know, they've been champions within world champions within the last 12 years. It sounds odd to say that Spain are that. But we did reference them before. And I just think there's a nice, there's a nice marinade happening here. There's something coming together, a mix. You've got elder statesmen like Bush gets married with the youth of gavi and pedri. That span were just like you referenced earlier on so much more watchable. At last summer's European Championships. I mean, Spain versus Croatia probably was the game of the tournament. At the park and stadium in Copenhagen. So they were just a far cry from the dull, stultifying team that passed itself away against Russia in the 2018 World Cup. I mean, that was in ept to performance. You can have in soccer, dominating the ball. I mean, what was it like 1200 passes or something ridiculous across a 120 minutes, and they did nothing. Nothing. This is a different team under Lewis Enrique, and I do feel the optimism coming from the Iberian Peninsula for Spain. So I'd watch out for them, Andrew. Again, Spain, such a dominant force in word football, but with its domestic club competition and its international team for since 2008, really. Yeah. Weird to call them a dark horse, but that's my only thing. I feel like you've cheated a little bit. How? Well, there are fourth in the Caesars betting odds at plus 7 50. So they're kind of like, they're kind of there with England. All right, well, let me do it another way then, before we go to you, I'll just throw you another option. The Dutch, the Netherlands. Like this is a team that we can surely put in the bracket of dark horse considering how hard it's been for them to qualify for anything. In the past few years, although they were at the European Championships last summer, world cups have eluded them. Since 2014. So let's blend what you're saying with what I'm saying. Because JJ, I believe that the first match of this entire tournament for me, I'm calling it the dark horse cup of Senegal versus the Netherlands. And we'll stay with the Dutch for a second as one of those two, but they're going to play each other 5 a.m. Eastern Time on November 21st. It'll kick off the entire tournament. So you're right, the Dutch, the last time we saw them, they were finishing at least in a World Cup. They were finishing third at the 2014 World Cup. They then failed to qualify for the €2016, and then they validated that disappointment with a failure to qualify for the 2018 World Cup. But they returned to major tournament play last summer at the Euros, made it to the round of 16 where they were hugely disappointed to have gone out to the checks after a bad select red card. And that opened the floodgates to a two zero defeat. It was nil nil when that red card happened in the 55th. And they were the whole game. They weren't playing good anyway. It was not the game where it changed the game though. When album barely, did he get on? I don't think he completed one pass, I think, in 90 minutes or something. It was crazy. But now, that next generation, they kind of have that experience in their back pocket of being in a major tournament getting out of the group. And I think they can, they can really start to think about taking steps forward here. You know, it's funny because what is the thing that we always associate with Dutch football. It's historically what free flowing, it's beautiful. It's fun to watch with lots of attack. And this group could be that too. But when I'm looking at them, JJ, I just can't my eyes just go right to the back of it looks like they're going to play it back three. Nathan aka Matthias delect and Virgil Van Dyke as your back three. That's that's a force. And then in midfield it'll be interesting to see what happens with Frankie de young this summer. It sounds like it could be headed from Barcelona to Manchester United. Where he could reunite with Eric ten hogg his former manager at iax and what will that mean for his continuing development? And that this depay up front has traditionally been a force for them. So yeah, I think this, I think the Dutch and when I say dark horse, it's not that I believe they're going to go on and win this thing. But I think there could be a little bit of like exiting this tournament feeling generally good about what we got from. Maybe a quarterfinal run, something like that. I think that could happen. And I think also he's been through a tough time in his own personal health, but Louis van gaal seems happy. He seems relaxed. He was making jokes about that win the other day where he left Wout vague horsed on the field and he got a last minute winner against Wales. His third goal in 20 games for a good old vote. But the point being that he just, I don't know if you can bottle the spirit of 2014 when they were so enjoyable to watch. And had a good tournament. Maybe Van Halen can.
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"Makes getting haircuts effortless. It's not just any haircut. It's super cut. Check in now on the supercuts app or on supercuts dot com. It's so easy for you, Andrew, because you don't actually have to get your hair cut. You just clip off that LEGO man here you have and put on a different style. I don't go. I remove it. I go to supercuts. I drop it off. I go run my errands. They say come back in ten minutes. Well, we'll fix it up for you. I come back and then they replace it back on my head. It's amazing. Yeah. Couldn't be easier. All right, so we went through the favorites JJ. Let's go for some of the teams that we think actually, maybe are flying under the radar that have a good chance of maybe kind of upending some of these favorites. The dark horses. Now, I've got I've got two here. How do you want to do this? You want to go back and forth, let me just let me just start with a team because I feel weird calling them dark horses when they've been, you know, they've been champions within world champions within the last 12 years. It sounds odd to say that Spain are that. But we did reference them before. And I just think there's a nice, there's a nice marinade happening here. There's something coming together, a mix. You've got elder statesmen like Bush gets married with the youth of gavi and pedri. That span were just like you referenced earlier on so much more watchable. At last summer's European Championships. I mean, Spain versus Croatia probably was the game of the tournament. At the park and stadium in Copenhagen. So they were just a far cry from the dull, stultifying team that passed itself away against Russia in the 2018 World Cup. I mean, that was in ept to performance. You can have in soccer, dominating the ball. I mean, what was it like 1200 passes or something ridiculous across a 120 minutes, and they did nothing. Nothing. This is a different team under Lewis Enrique, and I do feel the optimism coming from the Iberian Peninsula for Spain. So I'd watch out for them, Andrew. Again, Spain, such a dominant force in word football, but with its domestic club competition and its international team for since 2008, really. Yeah. Weird to call them a dark horse, but that's my only thing. I feel like you've cheated a little bit. How? Well, there are fourth in the Caesars betting odds at plus 7 50. So they're kind of like, they're kind of there with England. All right, well, let me do it another way then, before we go to you, I'll just throw you another option. The Dutch, the Netherlands. Like this is a team that we can surely put in the bracket of dark horse considering how hard it's been for them to qualify for anything. In the past few years, although they were at the European Championships last summer, world cups have eluded them. Since 2014. So let's blend what you're saying with what I'm saying. Because JJ, I believe that the first match of this entire tournament for me, I'm calling it the dark horse cup of Senegal versus the Netherlands. And we'll stay with the Dutch for a second as one of those two, but they're going to play each other 5 a.m. Eastern Time on November 21st. It'll kick off the entire tournament. So you're right, the Dutch, the last time we saw them, they were finishing at least in a World Cup. They were finishing third at the 2014 World Cup. They then failed to qualify for the €2016, and then they validated that disappointment with a failure to qualify for the 2018 World Cup. But they returned to major tournament play last summer at the Euros, made it to the round of 16 where they were hugely disappointed to have gone out to the checks after a bad select red card. And that opened the floodgates to a two zero defeat. It was nil nil when that red card happened in the 55th. And they were the whole game. They weren't playing good anyway. It was not the game where it changed the game though. When album barely, did he get on? I don't think he completed one pass, I think, in 90 minutes or something. It was crazy. But now, that next generation, they kind of have that experience in their back pocket of being in a major tournament getting out of the group. And I think they can, they can really start to think about taking steps forward here. You know, it's funny because what is the thing that we always associate with Dutch football. It's historically what free flowing, it's beautiful. It's fun to watch with lots of attack. And this group could be that too. But when I'm looking at them, JJ, I just can't my eyes just go right to the back of it looks like they're going to play it back three. Nathan aka Matthias delect and Virgil Van Dyke as your back three. That's that's a force. And then in midfield it'll be interesting to see what happens with Frankie de young this summer. It sounds like it could be headed from Barcelona to Manchester United. Where he could reunite with Eric ten hogg his former manager at iax and what will that mean for his continuing development? And that this depay up front has traditionally been a force for them. So yeah, I think this, I think the Dutch and when I say dark horse, it's not that I believe they're going to go on and win this thing. But I think there could be a little bit of like exiting this tournament feeling generally good about what we got from. Maybe a quarterfinal run, something like that. I think that could happen. And I think also he's been through a tough time in his own personal health, but Louis van gaal seems happy. He seems relaxed. He was making jokes about that win the other day where he left Wout vague horsed on the field and he got a last minute winner against Wales. His third goal in 20 games for a good old vote. But the point being that he just, I don't know if you can bottle the spirit of 2014 when they were so enjoyable to watch. And had a good tournament. Maybe Van Halen can.
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"Peg Guardiola has a soft spot for Bernardo Silva. And he will continue to find places for him on the field. There is a lot of flexibility and variety to his game, which I think truly appreciates. And truly appreciates his genius as a player. So I don't think that Barcelona would be a better set of for another city but that one currently has and I just a couple of things to add here that citywide defensive midfield that it sold Frankie de young could be part of any kind of deal here. But I think the players that are going to leave this summer at Raheem Sterling might go and Gabriel Jesus. So Sterling can just use dope, do they really need to lose Bernardo? I think that's asking a lot. But if Frank and young is part of any potential deal, then it may happen because city want the midfielder than he'd be perfect, but likes to be saying that the numbers may not adult. To your question, I think there's a real risk that Bernardo Silva may find himself who they'd only pecking order. But I thought that risk was a lot greater 12 months ago, where it seemed like he was on his way out. And then he had the season that he did. And the one thing every single footballer at this level does is back themselves. So regardless of what may be coming, Bernardo Silva is sitting on the back of that season he just had whatever speculation is going on is not too troubling to him at all. Oh, you mentioned Frankie the young, obviously, that could be dependent on this whole move, said if it is to happen, what do you think the Barcelona fans would think of having Bernardo silver come in and losing Frankie de young? Would it be seen as an upgrade? Honestly, don't know what the view of the fans would be. I think fundamentally there's a broader question which isn't necessarily about a potential swap between one and moving from one to the other. I think there's a broader question, which is about a recognition of the fact that if frankly the young goes, of course, there will be an analysis of how well he played and I think there will be some people who feel that they didn't quite see the very best of him. But I think more than anything else I think there will be a recognition that his departure if it happens will be for economic reasons. So this will be the guy that could have been the right player for them. The guy that was bought in at theoretically was Barcelona style that was expensive, I think it was €70 million if I remember rightly when he came in and that was seen as expensive but the right signing. You know, that really does stand him apart from some of the signs we've seen over the years. Piano, for example, even if that had worked out, that's the wrong reason for a guy to come in. Andrea Gomez, that wasn't the right player. Ara Turan that wasn't the right player and have just talked about midfielders now. And yet I think with frankly the young, there was always a belief that yes, this is the right guy, so if he goes now, I think more than it's not really about whether he gets replaced by Bernard silver or by anybody else. It's more about looking at and thinking, why are situation was really, really bad? We're so bad that we had to let Frank the ongo because financially that was what we needed to do. And I think that will be the mindset if this eventually happens, that it was about the, if you like the structural and the economic and the institutional difficulties that Barcelona have rather than about Frankie young purely as a footballer. I mean, the best possible example of this, of course, guys, let's go back to last year. They lost a guy called Leo Messi, who was quite good at football. And they lost him because the financial situation was so disastrous for them. Is it so terrible if you lose Frankie to young if it's Bernardo Silva, who would come in, LA? No, I don't think so. And I like frankly, the young as a player, and I have to say that I guess the best way that I could put it, he hasn't been terrible for Barcelona. It's not one of the signs that you kind of go, man. He's been a disaster. No. But he left you thinking that.
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"The things to start with is to tell you what Carlo Ancelotti himself has said and he's been very clear as he always is. He doesn't play games. He's very honest, even before games about what he's going to do. And what he said that he was planning to spread the minutes across the squad and spread them in its in particular across this game in the next one with the intention and let's see if this actually happens in the end. The intention of that final game against bettis is a full dress rehearsal for the Champions League Final. In other words, against bettis we expect to see at least from the start, the realm of the side that will face Liverpool. I think against cadiff, we don't. So I think against cat if it will be mixed up a lot more and there will be a desire to protect players against bettis, we'll see the entire team. And I think that's one of the reasons why we saw a pretty strong side tonight because of course we didn't in the previous game. We get a strong side tonight. We probably won't against cadiff and I think we will again against bettis. Stevie, what are your thoughts on how you manage this ahead of it? I mean, I agree with the boys. There's a fine divide and lane. But you have to have the players on the field. I was a little surprised that he played for 75. I thought he would probably play for Noah. But for me, the real, the real thing is not about them playing. It's about the time because they have to play. If you think between now and what two and a half weeks, you don't play people like Benzema and Modric, because you have to see sharp. And if you don't play them for a good amount of time, then that sharpness will go. So that's the key. They have to play yes. And I would suggest that they start against cadets as well, because they've got plenty of time. So yes, play them, but it's the amount of time. And I think Angelo is the one that will do it properly. Now as much as we would like to continue and obviously talk about the guard of honor. We don't have time because there's been some big news in Spain today with the future of Frankie de young and I'd like to talk to you about this said thought that he could be leaving Barcelona as they look to free up some positions as they look to bring new players in. What's the latest on this situation? What are this is essentially very, very simple indeed. It's about the money. And obviously we know that Barcelona and financial trouble, we know that they have a minus salary limit in other words, it's not just they can't spend money. They need to recoup money before they start. That means they will be bound by La Liga rules, which means that for every Euro you intend to spend on your squad across salary and across transfer fees, you have to demonstrate that you've saved €4. In other words, the only way they can make any real changes is to have very significant departure. And of course, what they're doing is looking around this God, and this isn't to say that they think, oh, let's get rid of Frank of the young because we don't like him. It's much more simple than that. It's looking at the squad and thinking, who do we have that is an asset that we could genuinely get a transfer fee for all? And who do we have that's an asset in whom we could genuinely save money on the salary? And unfortunately for Frankie the young, he's one of the very few answers they can come up with. Now the other thing of course is you can look at the squad and look at the emergence of pedri and gavi and Nico and Sofia will sketch looks like he's going to continue. So at that point, you bite the bullet basically. This isn't something Barcelona want to do, but it's something that they are examining as being a possibility and one of the very few possibilities they have. We now welcome in, Mario malchio. Thanks for being with us, Mario, latest talk to you a little bit about this player and ask you how Frankie de young is seen back in Holland. Oh, they love him, you know? It's a player that is very smart. The way he plays, you know, skill wise, he has a brain that I think when you play where he places that position, especially because he comes out for the national team as well. He's very intelligent. I know Frank here himself because he comes from connecting us a little bit stronger to him. But when you play advice alone, it's similar to what you do at Iowa. It's just on a higher level. But the way he plays in the middle of the park, the only step will be now him coming to the Premier League. There, he might not get them much time. He might not have every player around him. They want to play similar to what he plays. But if you talk about the quality, yeah, he's definitely has all the abilities to do it. So I mean, the obvious thing is manually. And obviously. I mean, well, Monday night is a big, heavy link, but sources have told ESPN that ten haag isn't a particular pull for Frankie Dion. Neither is man united. To be honest at the moment. I mean, it's going to ask me Donny van der beek. It's been a graveyard. And he wants campaigns league football. I mean, yeah. I mean, it's a difficult one, because that's a big rebuilding job there. I mean, the obvious connection is the Dutch thing, but I don't know. Look, if he leaves Barcelona, he interested in him. Well, why do you let this player? There you go. We've heard that before. The only question I would have over Frankie the young and either of those teams is, you know, money was taught about tame on the ball. If there's one thing he doesn't like is when those people scurrying around them, closing them down, and I'm not sure that he's the greatest at doing it the other way around..
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"Combining the Pedro beautifully and crashing the box at fire post. But for me the standout in this game, the Barcelona was gavi, gavi was unbelievable. He had to go to salad for a side. And the way he was absolutely in the way he receives was unfortunate that they decided in the second half, the ball actually hit Frankie de young and offside position before he finished it. But just in terms of like his balance, his resourcefulness, he's like a kind of dinner like Sam and as we would never lose the ball. When he gave it to him out on the Flank. He's like Sam and nasri only like physically surprisingly powerful. Like gavi is tough. He's like an ice hockey player. You try to go through a very small one. I can almost moderate. People should try and go through moderate. They'd be like, oh my goodness, how have I broke my foot? Kicking gavi, must be like kicking a street lamp, like he's a tough dude. He was extremely impressive, Adama was also really quite good as well. He's been impressed. I think it's fair to say that that is a move that's working. Ferran Torres could be slightly more aggressive, I think, central areas, but you know, tools are not a bad result for either team. I think it allows bars to not get carried away, but also it's like it was a bloody nose from espanol. It was a real to proper dive. If you get a chance to rewatch this, if you've got a spare like even 45 minutes just to catch a half of this. It was gorgeous football. See, I think this is quite a poor result for us. Actually. I think that espanol occasionally take points off bars or at home. They did it. The two all a couple of years ago..
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"I'm gab, he's jewels. It is a foggy morning in West London, although the sun's trying to compete to come out. It's called for sure. It is certainly nippy. It is certainly nippy but we have a full sugar warm us up. We have the classical the semifinal the Spanish Super Cup from Saudi Arabia where it's not nippy. We've got the Italian Super Cup. We got Chelsea going to the Tottenham stadium and winning one nil. They're advancing to the final. So tons of stuff we also have because China went on. They had some transfers too. So let's get right into it. Let's start with the classical. The Saudi classico, if you will, Sid. We got to see Ferran Torres who was finally registered. That was exciting. He starts up front. Did this game come too soon for him? Yeah, I think it did. He did a couple of things. There's a couple of times where he sort of escaped Real Madrid behind the sort of left back stroke less than to back position. Both times one of them he sort of scuffed a bowl of the other, he tried to pull the ball back. That was about it, and they did improve at the start of the second half when he'd been taken off. I think fundamentally you're right. I think it was just a bit too soon. More importantly, we got to see pedry and answer fattie as well. I know, as we talk about the game, we're going to say that Barcelona Madrid were able to counter attack effectively and play through Barcelona's press when they pressed them and blah blah blah. Which is fine, but I'm also thinking I personally like they did if I'm chopping, I'm gonna say, you know what, with all due respect, I got bigger fish to fry than the Spanish Super Cup. So I'm gonna go out there. I'm gonna play my game. I'm gonna use this as a confidence booster. I'm gonna show my guys that you can go and you can more than hang with these people also because I have the cavalry coming back. Yeah, that's not a bad plan. Oh, and the second half's only proved that not so much the first half despite the girlfriend badoon who did nothing else. It's not bad to you. You didn't even know about it. Nothing about that goal. Mistake. But the second half was far more promising with Petro coming back and we knew it was a very different team with Pedro in it than with that. But certainly that second half I think is very, very interesting. I think sorry, before we go on and get you in the game said, I need to get your verdict. You need to be the tiebreaker here because Jules and I have had this dispute, where I make the argument that looked a young can actually be relatively in certain situations. And that he no longer needs deserves to be called. Because Frankie de young hasn't been great and that the young gap between the two has narrowed a little bit. Who side are you on? I'm absolutely unlooked the young side. Which is my side. But that seems to dental. I'd like to make it very clear here that I'm defending loop the young, not Gavin Marcos. It's a very important, that's a big difference. Yeah. Look, I'll tell you something else, and I realized this is a slight reach, but let me make this slight reach if only to make a point. Barcelona lost control again when the young went off. He was really important in terms of the mechanics of the team. It's true that he has limitations. But we know what those limitations are. Don't ask him to do things he can't do. And I think he as a kind of a pivot position as someone that others could play off. I thought he was used for he had a couple of headers of course before he scored the gold. It's true that the goal itself, I disagree with you, by the way, I don't think he does know nothing about it. This isn't just militia cooking against him. It's militar going to cross and the young getting in front of it. He is trying to get that ball. Now I know it's still basically a fluke. I'm not going to claim otherwise. But Luke, do you want me useful? Yes. He is. Of course he's not. You know, we're talking about Barcelona. He's not a busy, right? We talk about a club that has had David B and Samuel L two and Leo Messi and Ibrahimovic and Gerald Marie and I would tell me some other players they've had some really good Luis Suárez. And yes, he's not one of those. But then to be fair, nor his Memphis to pi. All right, steady with a dump. We'll get to the pie later, but I think we need to watch some lower gram drip because we need the media. We love to focus where the crisis is where the story is. The reality is, this was Real Madrid's first 11 until David Alaba got hurt just before kick-off. I thought, said they had the right game plan. I thought they could have scored more on the counter. I saw they were never phased. This is kind of what obviously they would have rather not have gone to extra time, but I thought the game plan kind of worked out for carletto, or am I wrong here? No, I think you broadly right. I think that this is one of the nice things about angelotti is that he doesn't pretend, and you've had a lot of realm of managers partly, of course, because of the way that the football is consumed in Spain if you're like culturally and in the media and amongst fans, there is this almost this idea that the counterattack is a dirty word. You know, that you're not supposed to embrace the idea of a counselor. You're supposed to want possession. You're supposed to want to keep the ball in all these things. So it's by the way, Graham just generally can do pretty well as well. Because of course, when you got midfielder that includes Tony Cruz and Luca Modric, it's not surprising that you can do that well as well. But I think Antonio is nice in that he stripped away some of the taboos and said, well, look, with the players that we've got with the kind of quality we have, why wouldn't we run counter attacks? Now why wouldn't we invite teams to us and go and then go beyond them? I think there were different phases though to the game, just to slightly introduce a little bit of nuance to it, which is I think for the first half an hour up until the Madrid goal and then maybe a little bit beyond it. It wasn't just a counter attack. It was that Madrid seemed to me to be able to cut through the middle of the bus on a so easily. But when they scored they could already have scored three or four, because they'd broken through lots and lots of players going up a pitch really easily. And at that point I just thought they'd just much better than Barcelona, even if Barcelona have quite a lot of the ball. Once pass on a story, once we did scored boss on rats and I thought, this is okay and then in particular start the second half of 20 minutes from last night and I thought this is actually really very good. And at that point I thought my dribble slightly less comfortable..
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"Going into new period last 20 years. And as you can see on the table now with 9 points and the gut Dortmund away in the next game, if they can avoid a loss there, they are more or less already true. I mean, you say that Erik ten hag has lost those players like you talk about the players going Frankie de young with taste delic. Donny van der beek and look what he's doing with them. They're playing great football as well. Top of the league, top of their group here in group C a completely outclassed Dortmund, it would be hard to get a bet against them wouldn't it? Absolutely. I think what we should learn of them is that they have been very loyal since the jungfrau times for 50 years ago. You know how they want to play and it's not like it's easy, but it's easier because they always look for the same type of player. If you see this ix team, compare with team one or where in the semifinals of the Champions League and unlucky was knocked out there. You can still see the defined role that they are in a team. You can see who got a delict role who is the Dijon role who is found a big role. And so on and so on. And we know that if they play a soul, okay, then they need a couple of more seasons, then they will build up something again. So when you see all the money, been spent in and around English football, you would think that they could learn a bit from teams like ios because if you mix that with money, you have a golden formula. Yeah,.