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S2:E66 Portland Comedy Festival

The Captain's Log with Host Brien Spina Podcast

23:00 min | 2 years ago

S2:E66 Portland Comedy Festival

"A guys back on the captain's. Log welcome in this is going to be a great show. I wanna learn about the new Aspen comedy festival. Season. I posted the wrong damn thing. We have an Aspen Justice jazz Pitt. Maybe way fail. That's okay, buddy. It's a live show. You did just tell me and I talk to you for second because I didn't want to get out of jail. I wanna do it live. I want everyone to see it live. It's better Portland. Why did say Aspen, who the hell isn't aspirin coming, right? The biggest probably not in Montreal. Oh, that's a dude that actually was just talking to me. So all right. So here's the thing you guys are gonna do a comedy festival. Tell me about it. I performing it off to a comedy club. Tonight and Sunday pm. Exciting yesterday. Tell people if you've never been there, it is an, I'm not an this is going live, so any comedy club owners ears this, I don't care. This is definitely one of my favorite comedy clubs in the country, but I have to say this real didn't listen to me, you guys, the best food at any comedy club in the world that I've. The other clubs know that right? I should know this restaurant at professional seafood restaurant, that is also a comedy. Thank you. Thank you. But that's but that people need to know that because what the problem is. There's a stigma with food people go eat before comedy because they think you're going to have dips in salt site, stuff like that. And you have incredible food if they don't need your club. They're wasting their time and then comics, obviously it's one of the best clubs to play. But there's a new green room that you guys are gonna love. They are they are, and actually Mike gaps was like, really mad about my previous green rooms. He storage room. Gorgeous. I wasn't nausea green rooms in the last few clubs. But this we. But the last club was it wasn't closet. Any remember him toilet? The toilet. And then I ended up capping the toilet and I put a couch over eight it was bad. It was bad but it's still looked okay? Just small now is a beautiful green room. I thought that was the last time I took a whole like storage big storage room and we put big walls in and now it's like it's nice. It's big. It's a nice green room. We read the whole thing, so that was good. That was our fun project. The last few months and Kelly, the Naples, handyman. He did a great job with me worked it out. Real good. Tell me tell me about the festival. This is big news. I'm very excited. So our company golden our center Tate, we launched three days ago. Go to the Portland comedy festival dot com for more information that's going to be a Tober first through fifth in the beautiful city of Portland, Oregon, which Portland's amazing. Been actually Portland. So, but I wanna go and you're gonna come. Yeah, I want to come out to that. City. There's the food is the food trucks alone. You guys are great. But there's a restaurant called Huber's. If you go to Portland, you must eat. There started in cowboy days, whatever eight hundred. It was a bar and this, there's a Chinese man, I forget the last name of that family, but they're still there. He went into the bar and said, can I sell Turkey sandwiches, and he did? And then he made so much money he bought the bar and his nephew. Now still owns this restaurant, and told us the whole story Turkey. What does he do novel? But this what they're still selling Turkey. There is the best restaurant in Ponce Turkey, or on my parents. They want me to put Turkey on the menu every day. They're like. Need a Turkey sandwich? The everyone likes to Turkey like no mom, nobody wants to eat a Turkey sandwich. But she does now you get a jinx me from. Up till sandwich. Everybody likes clubs. All right. So, so the festival came up about how did you guys come up with the idea like what we always wanted to do a comedy festival in Portland, just because we love it there. We perform there several times every year, and we related running the US comedy contest in Los Angeles. Right. Literally angeles. And we run the US comedy contest October through February. It's the most popular contests in LA, and so people trust us until we figured, let's expand in right, saying, hey, can you get us into Portland? That's a big city that comics wanna go to booking agents. We thought, hey, why don't we just introduce all these comedians to the bookers of the south west and things like that? And so that's what we're doing. And then obviously, we have tons of celebrities that are there to just put on it's already. Great lineup of six time. Emmy winner, ridgeville Lange, six Emmys, bitches. That's a lot. He was center square on Hollywood squares for forever. He also he's, he's got giant blonde, Greg glass. Gay guy. He was the head writer for all of the Academy Awards shows. Billy crystal. Yes. So that's big. Yeah. And we have Tom Rhodes on their show. Tom TOMS, grades has his body and yes, yawn, actually cetera. John, I think we'll lose supposed do a date or something with him, aren't we with me and you know we didn't have on the books. Take the ball anytime you want him here. He's giving you guys what about? You thing with him and Jackie joke. Men Howard Stern weekend. I, I would like to do that. There you go. Hollywood Jack on text cast I just made money. It's about time. I haven't. We looked at my company in twenty years. Video Jackie texts me every once in awhile. He's gone coming back to Naples. I guess he's got a bunch of friends in town or something that live here so years ago, he was there actually it was two thousand six. How do you think we'll two thousand six I don't know. I don't even remember. I don't even know if I had any marketing skills that, you know, but, but anyway. Yeah. That'd be fun. That'd be good. Here signing funny show. Yeah. Absolutely. But so southern Jonathan the festivals. Well, okay, good. It's five nights. I've nights Portland, Oregon on Tober. I defense emissions are open, go to the Portland comedy festival dot com for more information. Improv groups, we're gonna have high. Cast. Yeah. What podcast we have lined up so far? The captain's log we have the capital. We should you the captain. Yeah. That's what I'm gonna do him on. You should be like the guy who picks up some of the carts at the will like go with you. The comic. Yeah. Like I'm gonna do that in Montreal this year. When I do the captain's, log and just love the rain at all so smart. Yeah, that's a great idea. Well, thank God. You're also saying because as COMEX watch this we all know that most comedy club owners are the most crazy. Are crazy? So if you've got to deal with college, you must be nuts of. Yeah. I like I get that question all the time. I must be so cool. I mean about half of the McColl the other half are did. I think raising my no. Yes. That's right. I said crazy. I didn't say anything I did is at Dick's. I mean, somebody you, some people who think they deserve random crap for being faint. You know is just weird, but it's interesting, you know, it's, it's not like everybody else's job. It's not it's really not right. It's not like more. Right. We, we may be crazy, but we're not dying under fluorescent light. Correct. We're not. We're cooked underfoot from us and lights. Frank west of our lives. Jackley. Exactly. So what's new in the comedy world for you guys? I mean, we're tour, you're still touring silts horrid, special or something, aren't you? Yes. We're shooting several comedy specials this summer for shooting Dante's, one hour, special, or shooting. My half hour special in a bunch of comics, and that several there is yes that we will announce where those going to be in Elvis shooting these in Los Angeles. Yes. And we already have the budget all set than planned, and crew and everything. So our guys lined up, thank goodness. Very Rebecca and our company. I'm the manager. She's the producers, she's been setting up mostly the festival, and the productions. Okay. I handle the clients. So the question I guess, we'd like to ask the comedians that come on my show is how did you get started in comedy? All tell. So I'll tell mine. So when I was a child X around seven years old, I was a big fan of comedy. Richard Pryor was probably my favorite and Bill Cosby, what happened there gals. I mean, people in sweaters, and sometimes, I can't exactly. But anyway, so I lived on a navy base, and this USO show came through, and it was sort of an improv troupe and my friend, my little buddy, who loved Richard Pryor. Yeah. Cheech and Chong with me, we both watched the show, and we turn to each other and said, we do stand up and we wrote a little act, and we did it at our school, and we won some contests of they send us to all the schools and from that day on, I said, I'm a stand up comics. Right out of school high school. Yeah, no. I at seven years old at fourteen my parents move our twelve my parents, moved me to San Diego and fourteen I turned to another friend in high school and said, you want to get comic with me. And we'd we formed auntie in the wolf comedy team in nineteen eighty six and I started doing stand up at the comedy store and the improv in San Diego. Yeah. And the rest is her story. Wow. I dropped the wolf who we are still friends. He actually might write my autobiography still a comedian. No, he is a lawyer with one of the most incredible stories. I actually want him to write my book because he might write part of his story in the bow coal, yet, his brother. I mean, it's a long scrapie start. It's a crazy story all around. I mean within involves you can't talk about espionage and murder shoals and all sorts out all of this stuff, FBI allow it stink. Frail story, d a log. Yes. Getting Nancy grace on the law, you guys. But anyway, anyway, he's doing great. He's, but he has an incredible story. His brother is actually a client of mine as well. His brother is David wolf, who is the new neutral guy? Oh, yeah. Yeah. You know, the guy who makes the. Yes. Yeah. And then he's also famous too because he's a guru for health. Like, he's they call him David avocado wolf. He's great. He's speaking engagements all over the place wondering, also. Yeah. And Rebecca, how did you start comedy? I always was performing doing shows, I grew up in Las Vegas and started performing when I was really young there. I went to go more about that young lady. So when I started doing shows easily the Las Vegas strip when I was thirteen o started doing dinner leader looking like you were twenty one writers, yes. Yes, I am lying about my age and working I was working when I was thirteen. And how about your parents? How did they feel about that? I don't think my dad. I don't know what my parents were divorced for that time. So I don't know if my dad stent right, and neither my mom really. I mean, they're like, hey, you know, if you wanna go do it and make your money go for it. So. So that's I did. So I started doing thirteen year old daughter said, Dan, I'm be I'm going, I'm going to do shows, I would say, funny and smacker and put her back. Luckily, she lived there, but. Right. I didn't take her mom was driving her to the strip. She could drive herself, her mom had to take her to the show. Booty smack either. So I guess the whole a bunch of. All right. All right. So, yeah. And then I, I moved to Los Angeles nurse of teen and I've been, you know, done a lot of film, work and stuff. And so, I wouldn't, but I always wanted to do stand up comedy my whole life. I always wanted to do it. And so when I was in my early twenties like last week, I wanted to take a comedy class, in at that time, Donte was teaching comedy classes, sue was just born in I needed to stay in town. More. Aging some classes for. Because I had started a comedy show at this bowling alley near my house, and this. So we met so it's actually a nice story, I was going through the divorce and didn't want woman in my life. But she walked in after she had called me weeks before. And it was if I hear the wedding bell, but he was like daylight out, and I was in the dark bar, and all I could see was a silhouette of this perfect woman. I looked down. I was like, I don't need women in my life right now. And I'm doing my paperwork, and she walked up and she goes Dante. And I looked at this woman, I want. Yes. Yes, I am from that. That was it that was it. And same with her. She was it was loved. You talked to me at that point this old school stock the comedy store, spoke to guiding Stephen Glickman, who was supposed to say you're supposed to take classes from sandy shore. But he said, the best guy in town is Dante. So luckily, if it weren't for him, we wouldn't even be that was great. Good move, Stephen Glickman. So how can they find you on Instagram Facebook? Tell everybody, because we're on any social media. Why don't lie w ridiculous Instagram is my life. I'm getting not my life. It's kind of. So you can follow me on Instagram at Rebecca coach in our. AB. K. H. K. O. C H, A N. You can follow my lovely has as she also just took a bunch of new hot, headshots. And some sexy picture. Oh, okay. We can't miss those. Hey. Guys got to get those lights out. Humanity twenty nineteen. That's right. And mine is Dante the comic D A, N T E the comic. And on Facebook, my fan pages funny, Dante for some reason, Don. Could change that right? I believe we can. Yes, absolutely. Yes. That's not make it all the same getting all together. Our company is golden artists with an S L A at golden artist. L A. And you were a bunch of different stuff. Your guess and also go to the Portland comedy festival dot com and submit to be Hartland comedy festival. And if you wanna just check it out on Twitter, or whatever it's at the Portland comedy fest. Is that right? Or Portland comedy fest hunting, you. Tell me what. Instagram. It's at Portland comedies on us. And then on, on Twitter, it's Portland fest coal cO. So we'll get a wrap up to captains out. But if you have one question for me. I read into question. Let's hear I'm ready. Okay. Where do we even start? So I asked you question earlier, and I think it's an interesting, Florida tidbit. Can I ask you it again? You can. All right. I've been seeing frogs everywhere my dog loves to chase them. Yes. And so talking with us. Yes. What is a drug dog? He's a wrestler, Jimmy shove marijuana up is about whom we fly. Yes, yes, we don't want to get arrested. I agree. So. So, but what were we saying? So question. Yes, star, Doug loves these frogs. And you were telling well I'm not every interesting, but you do know about it not like an Infineon experts. We don't know that. But there, I noticed that there were frogs and toads and I was warned about the towed. Yeah. And poisonous toads that are everywhere closing tote. Yeah, they're terrible. They're terrible. They have they have they like excrete some kind of toxin on the back of their two glands on their back and pretty much like they paralyzed, and then could kill like most animals that eat them or touch them or lick them while I ain't I easily bad you were saying. Stuff that toxin gets on stuff and then they could smell it and getting on their nose. Like, yeah. Then they just like get paralyzed. You have to get him to the vet, right? Once they're paralyzed you rush them to vent. Yeah. And they have an aunt. But what I know about that could fit in a thimble. You can ask me something. Maybe that I had in Iran. All right. I have a question when I first started checking your club. How long has it been opened? We opened in two thousand five. Okay. I would guess I started looking at it about that. Yes, I was big on BT in the nineties. Yes. But I noticed that the time when you first opened a lot of your acts were from BT, what, what was that connection because it's not a big BT crowd out here. But you must have been filling up. Well, we had a big fan base of from Fort Myers, and they, they do like the urban acts. Yeah. So, so we were bringing those in, but I don't know if we necessarily focused on that. No. I just had. No. And I also think that who didn't. But what I was complimenting. You on was you were having acts that weren't playing a lot of the improv and stuff. Yeah. That were big acts that should be playing these rooms. But I was really excited to see I was trying to figure out comedy. That's all. Yeah. I literally club was putting some players in there that weren't playing other places. And I was really excited about your club because of that. I was just trying to figure it out. Man, I had no previous experience. I've been to, like, maybe three comedy clubs in my life. So there's the what made you do it. Why club? Okay. So I opened up the club based on the fact that the restaurant that I was just about to open the rope, I it was called, captain, Brian, seafood. Rob art, the time we just expanded from, like a seventy seat restaurant to two hundred and fifty seats and was this on the island yet was Marco, so my dot was well, after eight o'clock gets a little slow on the island. Let me try to start bringing like national headlining comedians because everyone was doing music, and then they weren't charging cover charges, and I was like, well, who wants to pay all these professional artists to come in and not take a door charge. I kind of get free shows crazy, so my dot was well, I'm going to do something different and I'm going to bring in comedians that no one's ever seen before. And they can't tell me like I can't charge for them, but they. Did. And I was like, well, I'm sorry, but I'm pay foot the Bill. This is my club. So they're going to pay like people were. I were we're like, why would we pay we go? See music for free, you know, 'cause back then like on the island there wasn't anything else other than like some free music. But, like a lot of pop catastophic anger, Stasi's what I was all about. So that's, that's how it started man. That was how I have a question. Okay. I want to know what the deal is with these captain, Brian spirits that I. Oh. Pictures? And I was like, wait a minute. This says, captain, Brian. Now. This started the handcrafted, Florida made organic all natural free spirit line. We do vodka gin rum. You're doing Elaine lights on this one. Jennen von? Yes. Made here in Fort Myers, and I've been selling like all of the state of Florida, hopefully soon. We'll break on the Florida. We'll go nationwide to be exciting. Wow. That's my Angela Nadya you know, more about have a distributor overseas because run homey house rum, gin is oh, see then they go and this is we've had some mazing, because I have gluten free sugar free all our Ganic, vodkas twenty-six calories left, which is the vodka that has talked gluten free Tito's because of the. Yes. Yes, it wear a completely sugar free and yeah. Yeah, it's all Florida made. So we use Florida out Cornyn. It's great. It's been really good. So that's exciting. I started in November. So I guess maybe you didn't go launch of your last November and December. I was really the first eight hit the shelves congratulating gradually help to see your food is outrageous. Outrageous. It's like most people would assume that would you beat last week? What do you think he had the clam chowder, don't you say like the clampdown loves the Clinton does the clam chowder is outrageous. Yeah, your stake falls apart. Oh, yeah. How good it prime rib. Did you the prime? No, is it. Yeah. The prime rib. That's my favorite on the menu, always, I've never had one thing bad, and I have tried some tried to, you know, thank you my way through the menu. I had the tuna. Tar tar. It was outrageous. That's soka. And she had the Li salad like yoga rela. Yeah. Well, he's read the highest of course. So good. And then the chocolate cake was outrageous. Yeah. That went on all and you finished with the chocolate lava cake, I guess. No. Great. My chef chef tier cities basin. And he's been with me for like fifteen years. The guys at mazing and his wife, Claudia sunscreen. You have such a great staff. Yeah. On the back management is always great. It's just one of those clubs is such a pleasure to come to, and I hate to I hate to plug a hotel because I don't even know if they're giving you a discount. I mean, I stayed in thousands of hell's in Maui time, thousands, you know, and it's like the Hampton inn where you put us up man. They had a little gun on that door this morning. That said you're in a happy place. They do good job. It's really good. And they, they everything they read model they and it's I called brand news again. That's when they have the white comforter on top, and it's writing you're like just fine. She does that they clean that comforter. Every every time they change linens. Some hotels. Right. Right. And it says to now. Yeah. And there's nothing more disgusting. All right, guys. Well, this is the captain's log, and I wanna thank Dante Rebecca. It was a great show. It was always a pleasure. Those, those love dots so happy come. See him off the hook comedy club. Get tickets off the hook comedy dot com. I ten people that use the promo code freaks. What yeah we'll give him. We'll give him ten tickets. Right. Than I do that on my Twitter, too. You can go. My Twitter is Dante the comic my Facebook's broken right now. You guys they kicked me off. So make sure it's done to the comment. I'll get you guys ten tickets to. So if you wanna come see our show tonight, but I can't get you paulie short tickets now sorry, but you're going to be here all weekend. Yes, we're good. We're out later.

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NATALIE: BEVERLY HILLS CAPTIVE - EP9

Diana: Case Solved

26:54 min | 2 years ago

NATALIE: BEVERLY HILLS CAPTIVE - EP9

"Rj didn't complain that was part of the problem. I I wished he had expressed his resentment but instead. He kept up a cheerful exterior. Sometimes I waited for him to complain plane or start a fight but his calm exterior remained intact his coolness drove me frantic because I was used to the emotional intensity of my parents. The happiest times in our marriage occurred when we were aboard. RJ's yacht usually on cruises to Catalina Island without other people hello and welcome to chapter nine a fighter voyage the mysterious death of naturally. I'm your host Dylan. How the day after Natalie Wood's tragic death Robert Agi Wagga was back home in Beverly Hills as the world mourns one of the most famous and beloved actresses to grace the Silverscreen. Rj remained isolated in his mansion focused on controlling the narrative surrounding Natalie's debt flanked by he's high powered Hollywood attorney and boat Captain Dennis Devon Agyei made sure that the rule telling the same story in an effort to keep suspicion of foul play away from him in this episode. We'll hear a stunning first person is an account from Dennis who claims it. Rj held him captive under the watch of bodyguards for over a year after Natalie's death. We'll also he knew details about how he moved on and quickly with yet another famous. Hollywood actress and finally we dissect the disturbing disturbing and extreme measures that Algi took against Natalie's aren't parents and sister Lana immediately following Natalie's funeral but first. Let's begin with Denisova the morning I got a Robert Wagner's house from being picked up the Long Beach Harbor. There were a lot of people at the house. I was taking right up to Robert Wagner's bedroom where his lawyer Paul dippers was there and he told me they call me directly face to face. This is GonNa be our story. Is this well. We're GONNA say you're going to be appointed to one of our lawyers and Mrs what are stories going to be. The story was that when when Natalie went missing that she must have gone outside her stateroom 'cause the dinghy was banging against the whole boat and and she she couldn't sleep leap so she tried to retie Dane and she must have slipped and fell in the water and maybe she bumped her head ahead on the swim platform and then wants to split water. Nobody knew anything she was gone. She was missing Dennis soon. Found out that sticking to a certain story was not all that would be required of him by Jay and he's entourage Dennis was asked and agreed to stay at the Wagner Hon and thinking he would be of comfort to R. J. and the girls as well and I was to stay living at the house there was because I felt like like maybe RJ myself. We needed each other. the housekeeper. Willie mays she was very very kind fine with me at all the way before that and at that time she was you know wants to make me as comfortable as possible and you know. I guess they felt like and they they needed me to have some kind of you. Know somebody around me while the girls and all those who love Natalie were in mourning. Rj made choices that many found odd choices included a stunning new love interest. It was shortly after the funeral one. Actually it was during the funeral. Joe Saint John was there and they they did spend a lot of time together. You'll say Johnston pretty quickly. She's Monte ruling CO author of Goodbye Natalie Goodbye Splendor him. I don't know if Robert Wagner was previously having a relationship with chill Saint John Before Natalie's death but I do know that one of the first people on the scene after Natalie's death at the home was Jill Saint John and did not stop. She was scare for Natalie's wake almost every day afterward. He moved on real fast after Natalie Staff he was seeing Joe Saint John Within two weeks after Natalie Staff. Their official date for dating was Valentine's Day nineteen eighteen eighty two so that's officially ten weeks after Natalie's death which is still quite soon after losing the supposed love. It'll be your life. It's hard to place judgment on anyone's actions. After losing a loved one that moving on from the love of you live just wake softer does beg the question. Just how much did Natalie really mean to Agyei J and Jill Saint John would eventually marry on May Twenty Sixth of of Nineteen Ninety and I remain married today but I can't help it. Wanda Eve Jill like Natalie and Barbara stanwyck before her is just another a woman who are Jay has used he's on gang ironically someone who has been repeatedly accused of using Agyei and the story of Natalie's death but there is strong evidence to suggest that like Natalie Dennis too was a victim of objects it was more or less like he knew that I was in his house and he knew that I couldn't go anywhere because there was people at the front door you know because there was a lot of media out there on cannon drive off seemingly wasn't taking any chances and kept Dennis away from a Ravenous S. press who will Hungary any additional details that could help explain what had happened to nationally and as a tactic Cape Dennis happy and quiet. Jay made sure there was plenty of alcohol listen about keeping me in their house if I don't get out to anybody and start talking to anybody. That's the bottom line was yeah. I mean that's what it was and and and to wake up in the morning dentist. You WanNa have a bloody Mary yeah that sounds good afternoon. Hey here I am. I'm GONNA Beautiful House. In Beverly Hills you know from a little one bedroom being shared by two other guys in marina a dollar rate. You know it's like you know it's like wow this is really bad. Rj attempted to Mike Dennis feel like an extended vacation and and although Dennis did enjoy the perks at first he didn't take long for him to feel trapped was dennis a guest or worse a prisoner he would go to work or something. It'd be left there. I'd be left there by myself. I lay down take nap could maybe go out to the pool. You know what I mean I was. I was like I was. I was living like Oh. This is great. I'll go by the pool. I was like you know I can't go anywhere. What what am I. GonNa do like I couldn't really go anywhere. I believe I only got out of that house. A few times I mean I I was. I was starting to really feel claustrophobic. You know like at nighttime when I would go to my room. You know if I felt like I want to go downstairs or or maybe just you know just move around. I I really couldn't do that because the the first time I put my hand on the doorknob of the bedroom that I was in it was like a magnetic locks they wouldn't allow me to open the door and small TV in there and I. It was just like it was just like I was in prison. He knew that I could really go outside because there was a bodyguard on the outside of the door the revelation that Dennis was literally locked in his room inside. RJ's hone and under around the clock surveillance does seem outrageous. How could this have happened. Actually my girlfriend came a knock on the door there one time and RJ bodyguards his name was Joey Vein and she. She told him if she says she's all WanNa see dense and he says well he's he. He can't see him right now. He's he's busy. She was real spunky and became back gets. You need to see Dennis right now and that's when I told them unless you know I need to go. See my girlfriend to chill out a little bit. See my girlfriend you you know and that's why they took mayor there. When I was spending some time with their I mean we're sitting Lou Room here. Just join ourself and also the banging on the door comes. We have to go now. Let's won't Damascene. You know kind of just been here for like a half an hour this now we gotta go now you know. I said hey wait. Can you know my girlfriend got a little upset. They literally grabbed me by my neck and literally drag me by my neck down the sidewalk and threw me in their car and took me back to Wagner's house. I was like man. This is just getting to be wait too much. Dennis knew he was in trouble at the time he confided in just one person he's close friend. Marty Rulli who explains explains when he was told say nothing he went along with it but deep down he knew he he wouldn't be able to live with that. He was very afraid he he in his mind deep inside he knew what Wagner's capable of and you know he's thinking will I be next Jay was getting more desperate by the day to keep the press from finding any potential cracks in his story had to keep Dennis in line on message and under control in an effort to do so. Rj Hollywood card and Got Dennis a job on his popular up your TV show heart-to-heart Agyei thought he could buy Dennis's silence Frank West more he was like Rj's like like right hand man and he says you need to get him to do something because it's not good him just being idle all that time he said you get him. Let's get him in the in the screen actors guild and you get him into being the extra and you get them on you. Get them on heart to heart is the benefit him because you know what if there was the benefit me. It would have been more than just a job being an extra. I mean at that time. Extra is paying seventy six dollars a day and if he was doing something benefit me he would have given me like some bit parts for something like that. You know that would have benefited me because then you would would be making some money life is TV extra wasn't working out and Dennis desperately missed the live he had previously working in and around boats so so without Jay's approval he began to do basic maintenance on the splendor but that also became a source of stress for Dennis. I felt like I was in real danger a few times in regards to Robert Wagner because I remember I recall one time when knows stranger. It came down to the dock and he's nice. He said he said you know he's gotTa be aware of what would make him say something like that and it just made my stomach. Khan and drop and then another time I got a phone call and I wish I remember the guy's name and he told me is you know you you you you better what very careful and things you say and I thought Oh my God i. I thought I think I started to think of myself. This is something you see on TV where you know somebody's getting a their their life threatened and you know my stomach just got all he really really butterflies and I thought I think is trying to tell me something here. You know as a matter of fact I kinda still still feel that way if something ever happened I'm sure they can pinpoint why it happened in and through. Did you know so I mean if something happens. It happens The day I left Dr Wagner's house he gave me a check for six thousand dollars and he said you can probably use this. Get Your own apartment and maybe see if you can start out on your own now and they left with a six thousand dollar cheque and that was like Kay Dennis. You're on your own and that's the last last we ever contacted each other. though Dennis had left Los Angeles and was now away from Agi. In the accompanying media spotlight he remained deeply scarred by the events that took place that not in nineteen ninety-one around these time Lana was also seeing first hand the Daca more domineering side of her brother-in-law aside side that had frightened her sister on more than one occasion though she had filed to speak to him at his home after the funeral Lana still wanted to make an effort to stay dying touch and remain a family. She loved Courtney. Anna Tasha wanted desperately to stay in their laws but Agyei felt out of the woods. You remember the next time that I made an attempt all of a sudden all my God. It's his birthday is coming up. You and I was worried about him being alone on his birthday because I'm an idiot blatantly idiotic calling the house and Katie Wagner answering the phone I are an and his birthday is coming in and what are we going to do and I'll take him someplace special special and and you come in the kids in the thing and and she said Oh everything's been planned all okay you don't have to worry about anything and I said Oh okay what what's going on and she. She said we're just having a party here and I said okay great what time and she literally said to me. you know it's just GonNa be. RJ's France and I said Yes yes Katie and those were also all Natalie's friends and my friends and she said well around whatever time and and I said fine putting any pride origo aside Lana would attend odd jobs birthday party with a friend at the time Allen and I went and shopped for a gift for him and we went to the House and gave him his gift. Nothing me made it very clear that I was not welcome. There and I don't know why other than okay it's tough. Death is tough and also face that so that was it we went out into the living room and I said I wanNA leave. We're just we left and what about Natalie's daughters Courtney in Asia nothing from the kids no contact nothing. That's title whole life was turned up everything they took away so I at that point started falling apart and things on the went from bad to worse when the issue of Natalie's Fawn will when testament had to be dealt with. I don't think it was until I said to Allen on day. I said I've got to go get get another pair of of black heels because mine are are shot and he said why are you doing that and he said in the in the Will Natalie's left. Did you Oliver Clothing Oliver Firs olive her you know everything and I don't remember how it is. He knew that but I I I can't go there. I can't go to the House I just. I don't know that I can deal with it and he said I'll take care of it. So he called a couple of his friends. WHO's they rented a ban and it took them eight hours to go back and forth earth and I didn't have any place to put these things I went and talked to the mandaric's I was in an apartment. It was a two double level mm-hmm but I went and talked to manager and I said can I but things in the hall 'cause Allen was saying we'll we'll buy hangers and so she said Okay and the top floor I'd opened the door to the hall racks acts of clothing out there and the bottom floor opened the door and Iraq's clothing out there and I couldn't walk to my bed. I had to step around things. My daughter's room was filled with stuff. It was it was more than an entire flirt saks fifth avenue it was it was crazy and some mm-hmm that I remember. It just got to me one day. I said I can't I don't. I don't want anything I don't know what to do. I don't know you know and he would say just pick out a couple of things that's just let's get it out so. I did that basically very few things and he arranged to have the and I honestly don't know what happened with the rest of it but I remember Jake was in the press saying how could she you have sold her sister's clothing. It's funny and I accepted the judgment. I felt badly about myself. It made me feel like how could I have done that and and then I remember back that I was raising my daughter since she was a year and a half old I never got any help. I didn't child support. I wasn't receiving alimony on your anything. I was working to take myself and the kid and I needed money every chance I could get and yet I accepted his saying those things about the because I felt like he was right but what was I supposed to do all that stuff up then all the things that he had of Natalie's he put all up for auction and sold old letters and photos and all these things that that was okay but me and trying to live that wasn't okay. Wow Okay a little double standard. There and those are the times when I become really angry. I remember Rj contacted me through his attorneys saying that he would like all her furs and I said well I'd like to keep I'd like keep one and I said okay I agree to it and he paid me for them. Arch was just just being really cruel had inherited everything else that belong to naturally and yet he felt the need to take away some of a few things she had left Falana the question we have to ask ourselves why once this just another example of Agyei exerting his dominance dominance and he didn't stop there used before her death naturally it purchased an apartment for her mother but RJ had plans for that to rj throughout the one that Natalie had given her because he wanted it for Katie and he'd said she didn't need that big place so she we had that taken away and that was in the will that my mom would would keep that place my mom and Dad but my dad passed away my mom. was given a a monthly salary of two thousand dollars to answer. Rj's Fan Mail so she used to sit with all these photos and right RJ's name do the love she was given the photos she was given the envelope and she was given stamps camps and she would sit and write his name to an love Robert Wagner and put them in an envelope seal them up and we would have to take all those things to the post office and mail them so let's absorb this while Natalie was alive. She took care of him mother but but after she died not only took a home away that made her earn her keep by running his own personal fan club what I know from Natalie's will is that everything was left to Robert Wagner he knew that and you know she made provision for her mother and close being donated to her sister and if the the kids being taken care of by Willie Mae the nanny but all all of her assets and Natalie Wood was the frugal one not only what is the person who saved the millions shed many millions of dollars and many asset and it was all left to Wagner by now lonner understood the message that she was no longer welcome in our world but what happened next. Exclude shock is still. I got a call from an agent Lana Ruin Perkins. I'm like wow how are you how nice what's going on for reference role in Perkin's recently pasta why at the edge of ID Foale and was one of the founding partners of C. I. which is one of the most powerful full Hollywood talent agencies in the world's? We chatted superficially for a couple of minutes. He said I'm going to tell you something and tell you this because I I really like you as a person and I said what and he said stop trying to get a job in production or acting. You've been blacklisted by Robert Wagner. I said he knows that many people who give a good goddamn with our work or not said we got a child to support so I started had calling production companies this like Oh. This is what I worked as a social bruiser but I've been director of development I was. Vp them busy and I did this and this and this and this could and get a job couldn't get a job and didn't have an acting agent anymore because I had hung that up to go into production which I loved loved loved it and then I got the phone call from Rolling Perkins. I never said anything about the blacklisting because there was nothing I could do. It didn't work in the industry but I worked. I worked as a a sales girl at new the. Va furniture is furniture. I worked at a a doll shop and collectibles in sales and opened it and close the store for Adam. I worked at sprint. Guy Did a lot of things so let's get this strike. Lana Wood was also also a rising star and played a bond girl opposite sean connery in diamonds off forever and now she was a shop girl selling dolls and and mobile funds while Lana struggled to build a life for herself. Take care of her daughter and mother the unanswered questions surrounding Natalie's death fell by the wayside as she focused on simply getting by on the other hand. Dennis could not stop thinking about what happened to naturally he had to tell the truth about what he saw and he could no longer keep it a secret about a year and a half after Natalie was gone was the first time that Dennis this said to me there was foul play involved in that at least death and then it took about six months after that where he told me about the bottle smashing smashing and the arguing and that's when I started to go to work on writing and the from the minute I heard that that foul play was involved in Natalie's death. I just felt a blanket of obligation to get the truth out there. I mean Natalie deserved it on the next fatal voyage and I said you know what I think we we need to call somebody. Let's turn on the searchlight to see what you know if we can. Maybe were if we see her something because she's not here. Obviously she's not near. We now need up. There is no. We're not GONNA do that. I says well we have to look for is we're not. GonNa do that as we have to. Call somebody he's. We're not gonNA UNDO that right now. Either what's happened drinking and and think about and I'm thinking the last thing I want to do is have a drink and think about this. You you know there's a woman out there. In the in the freezing cold water fatal voyage is executive produced and hosted by me Dylan Howard and American Media Inc executive produces also include Kelly Ghana and Caroliina Savedra from trifles engineering mixing scoring and original music by Tom Monaghan additional editing by Josh work make sure to subscribe to fight a voyage on Apple Apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

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Deliverybros Episode 120: FNBS invades the Deliverybros pt.3: the redo that was needed

Deliverybros

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Deliverybros Episode 120: FNBS invades the Deliverybros pt.3: the redo that was needed

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Episode 26-9 TGIF vs Capcom

Rhythm and Pixels Video Game Music Podcast

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Episode 26-9 TGIF vs Capcom

"Different hello and welcome to rhythm pixels say video game music podcast this episode twenty six dash nine and we're your hosts my name is rob nichols and i don't know what i just heard. Every week we listened to very cool very groovy very romantic video game music very angry angry so we listen to music composed for video games from all consoles and all generations. We just pick a topic no matter how strange it is and we pick music related to the topic and then we talk about everything else. In between that was the opening now is the this called q. Sound of the opening. Sound effect when you turn on capcom arcade machine. Okay i got you. You've newark new theme or something. I mean our shows already like pretty niche of like. Oh you like music and you like games video game music and it's like okay now. Do you like tangent to you like this thing. Do you remember that that takes me back about. I worked at an arcade for years. So i know that sound pretty well. I don't know anything about q. Sound you sounds like a thing that capcom did to help the design of the logo some kind of filtering system in their speakers and the output of the sound so that they could cut through all of the noise in an arcade. That's all it's all. I know about it like it's like a directed like signal of sound so that while you're playing street fighter you can hear it. That's interesting to learn. Because like i said i've seen the logo q. Sound pop up in arcadia as many a time. I'm sure many other people did. And i'm also that no one knows what the heck does refer to them for morning. If for some reason summaries no one knew what it was like the logo department were they i. I always assumed that that's obvious because the logo is accompanied by that sound shipton sandwiches. Oh they're charging the acoustics of this theater. The reason why we have the sound the sound that we've got it. I can tell. Because i'm different. I think was the idea with q sound logo the logo with start up. And then we'll play this music and you're like oh they're doing something different but like in a noisy. Arcade never mattered anyway. I was thinking about that today. Someone was selling arcade machines on facebook. There's saying a pair of pera machine and kung-fu paradise and Para para paradise and it was right next to a beat media machine and next to that was a ubt machine and next to that. That's my games. Ddr machine and i'm remembering like you go to these kids all these music games which is fun in awesome and everyone should try it but it's so noisy like it's just everything is competing for for space. You know it's a struggle to hear your game. Like when i go to the arcade now and play. Pump is great until someone plays guitar hero behind me and then all of a sudden word play guitar hero. And someone else please. Dvr forgetting well the worst. I know unless they've changed it. Because i haven't been there a year now for over a year but like under the pump machine is is facing speakers facing the ddr machine which is like almost like a perpendicular to facing that also facing guitar hero machine. So i know that if someone's playing dvr and then. i started playing pump. The people playing. Ddr probably really upset because all the music is getting blasted at them in their right ear. Are you gotta do star. Plan pump bets on them. Yeah that's i was there. I it's all it's all i said right here i i don't care about. Ddr y'all calories baby. Hey y'all timing. it's what we're doing again. You know. I feel like forget as we get older. We're kind of revisiting. The things that we've loved are just we've always done it but now we're just like oh that's right. I still love doing this. And i don't care march. Which is asi. Here's a last segue. Hopefully because otherwise people are gonna jerk banks but had that chat the other day regards the concept of up in that our parents used to think about it and we started playing video games. He started playing them not because our our generation anyway. We started them not because our parents bought video games for us per se from my perspective. Parents were buying the video game for themselves but they also hope the kids would enjoy them like when common coleco roofing toward morsel body. Yeah that was when he started marketing to kids. That was like nintendo was like we gotta get this backup market this to children the love it but the older sisters were marketed towards adults and adults. Were just kind of hoping their kids will also like it. So you know gays worth. They met adults play with and kids play with and then one day adult decided a gave her for kids and adults decided that they can listen to music. They listen to when they were kids and dull that they had to be quote unquote responsible not watch entertainment tv so much as just watch the news and read the paper and they just kind of accepted this concept of on growing up growing up entails these things but our generations and then beyond. I feel like less and less people care about that anymore. The idea growing up has changed in some respects people. Even talk about it is growing up. It's just a thing you do. You people still play games. They still have fun. They just goof around rally watch the same wacky shows. They watch the most popular john wrote. Cinema is superhero. movies The growing up to me is literally being an adult that pays bills and is a contributing member of society. That is criminal. That's literally like beyond that. You do what you want has nothing to do with like reading comic books and watching superhero movies speaking of things from the ninety s that we enjoyed. And we'll probably maybe enjoy not sure if we still would enjoy today this topic. This week has been on our list for since the nineties. No it's been on our list for at least a year. I know i know that much. It's been on documents marked by something. I remember what it was the sparked by something. It's seen on the internet and i was. This would be a really cool concept. This'll be ridiculous. Marcia we should do. We should do it. And i- braised door but you brainstorm that we. We never sat down and do it. We always we need more research. And i just never put research but again. This is one of those topics where it doesn't exactly mean anything unless we unless we tell it. So we it me talking about fighting games of the two thousand or the best of the playstation. We're talking tgif. That's right the ninety s classic sitcoms series. Yeah thank goodness. It's friday and funny the friday night. Abc line up from all from all different eras because this started in the late eighties and ended in the mid to late nineties. I think not early two thousands actually. Okay wow okay. But i stopped watching that And so it's tgif versus capcom a lot of weird fun trying to think of some decent perry's for this to is the match up the century. This is the millionaire fighting two thousand. I don't know what's going to happen. Who's going to survive the decade. It's even like them together or if they're working together i think it's going to depend on on the on the characters that we have. I don't think we've. I doubt that we picked the same characters at all. It depends because. I wouldn't be surprised if we did. Honestly maybe tgif part of the fun but so are there any tgif video games video games based on like full house now but was was home. Improvement tgif now. That was a that was on tuesdays on abc. Okay i remember so that so that was that was that was not tgi but that was a video game so we did terrible wet or dinosaurs should have had a video game. But i don't think it did. It did not but don't quote me on. Mecca would have had a video game but yet none of the ones. I can think of video game family. Matters is probably the closest of having video game. It didn't even get one. We got julia white. Wasting your cartoon video game all right right. I was like how. How did we get close to that. Another is a die hard video game. And i know that what's his name. Played the cop entire art original belgian. Reginald johnson played the cop in die hard. Who was the father and family matters but We should just give a general statement just for anybody out of the united states. Tgif was just general lineup of television shows. That were meant to be on friday nights in prime time. All comedies comedies dramas. All next on that. They're all cheesy cheesy family. County were definitely cheesy for the whole family except for the except for the last one or two episodes of dinosaurs which were really graham. They were educational being a pretty decent staple in american television for at least ten years. It didn't always have the moniker. Tgif but they had the shows running with that concept in mind the one that really just give it a really cool buzz and every once in a blue moon you'd have the characters come on like they cross over each other shows. When saturday morning cartoons were premiered they would sometimes have stars from. The tgif shows do a saturday morning cartoon previous special where they were all like. Hey we're hope from school. Let's watch the previews carl article or whatever and it was just the odd concept that actually works like it was a very ingenious ideology that worked for you. I looked i looked up online. The crossovers not not so recently but it was a it was step by step and had a crossover with family matters and some of the characters came over and obviously urkel came over to the dance and that was. I can't believe that was such a big thing that irked the urkel dance is everywhere but i also remember that by step was really. Don't think there were any characters of color or actors in that show but one not super white so then like a lot of shows like that actually believe it or not like tgif. not too many. So i was like wow. That's it seems weird like the way they matched them up. And then i was like. I almost felt like concerned. You know for urkel coming into that world me. He also went to in. that show. didn't have any black cast members. Either he was in full house. Yeah and he went keep in mind went from chicago to san francisco. Apple's let's get started with some music and some games and then let's talk about the matchups because we've We can we can do this. We just wax on on classic sitcoms all night pretty much but you you this is. This is nine. This is an odd episode. So you start at all mercy. Well i guess. I'll go with this to start because this this. I think this is probably the mattered. That i got me thinking about this. As a whole so i track is gonna come from and if this is something. They've already picked al change but almost from the game. Mega man rock and roll. And it's called stealth be composed by juhani. Jim collar Welcome back you're listening to stealth b. from the fan game mega man rock and roll composed by juhani. John cale game. I came across about a year to two years ago. Twenty thousand nine hundred and i ended up really digging. Track was chosen because this played dorna sequence of the game where both the very beginning where mega man and proto man are captured by the enemy. Adversary of the game. So role is being retrofitted slightly to more of a combat robot. So she get in help get them out of their captivity So why would i pick this trek well because my first matchup is danny tanner from the series full house versus role. From the mega man franchise. So why would they make an interesting compared comparison group so role in her original on i was cleaning robot. She was made to tidy up around the lab and assist doctor light with his experimental work. Those like cannon blasts or whatever danny. Tanner is notorious on full house. For being a neat freak I guess business before people even talked about the actual cost of what it can surely entail but they used to give him grief about on. The show is like ocd. or like. I remember that and he wasn't a job like reading the weather on tv or something. Now he was a he was a host on the show. Wake up san francisco along with his friend and eventual sister or cousin onto the whatever she was becky that was a very aggressive title. Wake up san francisco. You better get the hiccups san francisco. Where else big occurred. I always kind of paired them together. In the sense that you have a robot who was tailored with the idea of being a constant cleaner and daddy who was a human. But when something's dirty he must have all sorts of energy getting that thing taking care of So i feel like they would get along great as far as friends go though. I kind of also think that role will get burned out by danny daddy. Daddy is too much recber her. There's too much for too too much for her. Fight back and see them being involved some sort of like cleaning competition and the sense of like taking taking out the trash cleaning the basement and he's cleaning like the second floor and like they're trying to go so they can so one of them can get to like the the the the bedroom i. You know exactly. And then of course if they're being judged very specific key elements in their cleaning. Pack that decapitate bears like setup. So that they're very intentionally dirty and if they don't meet the standards that there if they miss those spots they get docked points so it's not just getting to the one location central location. I is getting there while also hitting all your cleaning context so what you're not told what those cleaning contracts or why you gotta be on top of your game. Well guess what we did. We did overlap quite a bit and that's fine. We're it's go with it. Because i also picked a role for mega man and and she's gonna get matched up with someone else from full house as well. I don't know why that worked in my mind. I was like yeah why not. I gotta pick full house in there somewhere. So this is actually rolls theme for marvel versus capcom for the arcade. So one thing to note is that role was a hidden character. In the arcade on there were four four or five hidden characters in the game. Or if you actually go to the select screen you move the joystick around in specific patterns and it would unlock characters like dark. Dark chen-lien and dark Nash or whatever dark guile where the sprites were just darker and they had like overpowered moves and they could fly in the air and stuff except a role that rollers just roll. She was his little girl. Who was mega. Man's like a little sister or whatever and she was kind of weak but she was there. All of the hidden characters had one theme except for role. They gave roll her own music. And it's got lyrics so this is roles theme for marvel versus capcom. No we're back. You're listening to roles theme for marble versus capcom for the arcade. This one is composed and arranged by yoshinori ono a classic street fighter composer for capcom. We were talking earlier about like. Who is this guy. Reference him stealing So a little trivia about this music it was originally appeared in one thousand nine hundred ninety. Seven into game mega man battle and chase. It was like a secret karaoke song that appeared at the end of the game. If you beat it with the role character without continues it was hidden in there The title of the music is called. Cavallo sue tie which translates to the wind convey to me or the wind. Tell me the truth or something like that. So win of yeah you get over here. Wind s the american version over I like it's just. It's so interesting to me that like it was a hidden song. And his old mega man game and then they brought it back as a hidden character and a hidden song then game. The sounds really cool. It sounds like an anime like theme. Or maybe even like intimate closing theme which is probably why fits so well when it was eventually used in a toxin oku versus capcom because that whole game was anime characters and their anime themes that would play when they were brought onto the field. So when comes out. She has her own anime esque team that played for her to Yeah i'm not sure if he if ono did the music for touching oko versus cop. Combine that he did do again The arrangement and he got another lyricist. Do the singing along for for this song. Is this song again. i should look at. It probably sounds just as good as it's probably just as cheesy but the saddest about role though is that when she was originally put marvez. Cackle like you mentioned before everything i read about. Our team was designed like you say you mentioned the two but she was designed to be a weak character. Which made me sad. Because i was really excited to unlock mega man. Which is why bought the game small director and it's funny watching people play through the game trying to finish the game as her because she's so small that the last boss at the end of the game onslaught and it does like this. Big lake screen filling like a blast like laser blasts across the screen but role is so small. She doesn't have to duck she just stand under. It can't even more. I hear so funny that you can beat the game at her because onslaught the the enormous boss can't touch her because she's so small So for this one. I also went with the house and i chose the olsen twins. Both of right. So i feel like they were manufactured to be the key character in full house and she was manufactured to be the character. In mega man interesting like literally manufactured. She was a robot built. I'm i'm not i'm not. I'm not convinced that the olsen twins aren't robots because see could be on now. there are definitely. They've couldn't believe there as a kid when they were kids they older. They're definitely not robust because they're they're having some tough tough terrifying. I went with the same thing but again. This is my excuse to play some fun capcom arcade music on this show and like a cute them up like who could out the other. That's what i was thinking like like. It would be like a cute him up shooting game and their role is flying around in the air and the olsen twins. What is flying the other. Of course you know they have the typical michelle like lines. Like you gotta do whenever they got a superpower for some awesome areas. I like that idea. I like that idea very much. Like all like really really lo fi sound effects of. Oh how rude that was. But she she say of. Mason of the tanner. Children cut it out. Say cut it out. Oh gee we in fact. I don't think i'm going to pick that one. But i also did have joey gladstone versus dan. I was thinking about that too. I almost want without. That's so funny. I took it off. Because i had a better a better match up all right. So what's your next pick. My next one is going to be a really weird one. But i see this goes well beyond stephen choosing this show but let's take a crack at anyway. This comes from the game saturday night. Slam mass try this it is. This is my first time hearing. This plays on the sydney state from the arcade game by masaaki easily. Tiny and setsu. No yamamoto our report. The long island blue almost don't want to stop it. It's really frigging good. I love this trek. You're listening to sydney from the game. Saturday night slam masters concluded that masaki tiny and setsuko yamamoto soundtrack never ceases to amaze me. There's so much going on there the the bases all over the place of the. It's just crazy and then this court as opening chords and drum fills. There's there's so much going on. Just this arcade game about pro wrestling. I also just genuine like the fact that it does. It honestly feels like it does wrestling prowess that looked up footage of it and watch people play it. Every character has their own intro theme that plays when they're walking into the ring And then when they get out there they had entering battling out of the ring battling feels more like a fighter in some ways like a typical fighting because how they interact with each other in rain but nonetheless i still feel like it gives off a wrestling aura. Even if you are playing it heavily like fighting game and quite frankly is of a love. The music i love the feeling a love that some characters even like we're gonna before they get to the ring they throw them all wrestle. Just like w w the the designers they knew they knew what the do they knew what pro wrestling what made pro wrestling pro wrestling. And so they threw it all into the game they succeeded. This is one of those games. I only ever saw at the beach concord or anything. Yeah yeah. I never saw it locally. I only ever saw it when i was on vacation. Is this one of those weird games. I was like. Oh wow. here's a wrestling game. I i never heard about. I would look be looking for cogan or andre the giant and instead there's all these other weird characters speaking of weird characters moly cow so this match up. I don't even know how to proclaim it properly. So i'm going to ramble so the up here is actually tact team battle. This is from perfect strangers. We have larry appleton and balki bartok moose verses frank west from dead rising and sheep the royal who is the japanese name or alexander. The greater and saturday night slam masters deep for that one. That's good but so definitely confirmed that. Even though he doesn't have the name she real in america he definitely has a sheep influenced or raymond fluence costume. So that works now. I would definitely okay so first of all Balch you're talking moose. He he had she had a pet sheep. Stuffed sheep right. He carried around with him. He had a stuffed sheep but he also hailed from the country known as me. Post it with a fictional country by the lake. Greece's not fictional meet on meet bows. He was actually his family. Did hurt sheet. So he is a sheep herder and he's bali against a person who is influenced primarily with the causes of rams and sheep. You know ram is just a female version of a sheet. Still technically works. And larry appleton was eight photographer or the chicago. Chicago chronicle foresee originally worked at a counter hammer shop but then he and frank wess seen a lot of wars. You know so there you go. This is this is actually pretty cool. Because i imagine there's the two characters and perfect strangers were really tight like they would fight anymore and and Larry was very very full three for a while but he was also apprehensive and easygoing coasting guys like all right. Let's just go have fun. yes and like. I don't want to have fun. We got work to do belly him talking with the always banks so them in a tag team match together is awesome. Now keep in mind. Of course frank. West had the extraordinary circumstances of being you know dealing with zombie outbreak at a mall. Which is what triggered his entire game franchise so but he was technically normal person. He just happened to be caught up in extraordinary circumstances and able to utilize wacky costumes and feeling orange juice. Or whatever but i i- hundred and ten percent. See larry appleton gonna a similar route if base. With those circumstances. We've balcony as a psychic. It'll be freaking hilarious. Because again they were. Tjs sitcom and maybe harriet winslow would even show up a little to wish him. Good luck off along the way and do the dance of joy would be there. They're super like tag team move right. That's right dance. Joey and i think that would also be the thing that would help them against the royal because while she real is actually a wrestler and quite aggressive. I kind of feel like a weird synergy between balch the is she real because again she hurting the ram instincts of this character but also just the fact that balcony is so laid back at relaxing happy. Go lucky i've been giving actually through the demeanor and asi giving them water by fighting this guy get along great. We're gonna talk about cool weird recipes and stupid gimmicks and where the ventures and who knows. Maybe we'll move across country thing. I'll go to sydney balch. You go to sydney cheap. We'll go to meet pose cuisine recipe. It'll be great you know. They'll get along by in the event of an actual catastrophe out in the world. I honestly have this autumn. At larry in would actually do better and asami apocalypse setting and a form of dead rising then franken sheet. I just kind of do is is in my bohm's bones. I believe that too. And that's a game. I would love to play. Even if it was just ahmad of cohen it'd be op. yeah one personal plea balcony. One personal larry appleton dow. That'd be really good. I would really enjoy that all right. So my next track comes from pocket fighter or super gem fighter. This is the beach house. Music known as safir real for the arcade. We're back you're listening to the music from pocket fighter or super gems fighter as it's known in the states don't know they had different names to it but it's definitely a pocket fighter. This is the beach house. Music known as saffron composed by abay yuki y. and setsuo yamamoto. Which composer should be credited for this arrangement for this composition. But i really like it because it sounds like sitcom music already. It sounds like opening theme song for something. Silly going on even sounds lyrical like that. One part in the middle of sounds like laughter. The on the man jingle opposites happening we got we got. We got a prep ahead of time for that one. But i that you don't even know you might have to get some help on that one Like an extended episode. Because i want more podcast for. I like to keep our podcasts. Relatively compact you know we're not going to do like our ethics but that one that one's going to have thirty songs. That's a lot of so. So i think this music for For dan he biki because it sounds like it would be dance music you know. He's if he's a character in the game but he's definitely in the background for a lot of these stages and he's hanging out with his perfect strangers per to see how that works with. Just some show. I by the south out. I got the only one of my last two year. Not going to have the same show. There's no way shot definitely not if my last one is the same as yours. It's going to like. I don't know there's like we haven't been in the same room in a long time like it's coincidental. I always thought that. Like since danny biki was just really genuine. He was super confident about his abilities to to to do anything even though he was kind of goofball and i felt like balch was the same way back you know like he just thought that if he was just really good and believed that himself enough he could do anything and so. I imagine those two working together. Maybe what would they be doing. David jacoby they would be perfect straight any beekeeping japan and and he flies event he biki flies into e-post he's like you're my long lost brother balcony beaten some pie homer crazy espionage adventures. Yeah espionage what are they like eighty spy. It's oh so it's like a oh is it. would it be funny though. Go on funny adventures o. Of course it'd be fucking ventures. They're both comedy comical characters. Like you've you mentioned. Dan versus kalki in my thought for him along with joey was a similar reasoning. Sense that they're like both comic relief for their universes but at the same time they're reliable characters when this when it all hits the fan. But i can totally see like dan and balcony being comic relief for each other on these red of adventures. Been on complete complete with kane left. Got lots of that. There's something about that is is so necessary in some of these shows because they just weren't that funny they weren't like punchy people. We expect jokes. that land. the scary thing goes. I almost wonder. I don't want test beer to be perfectly honest but i always wonder sometimes like what we not. Latham's shows without the laughed. I laughed what i thought something. Fun wasn't really the canned laughter that triggered my laughter. Or was it me asi laughing. And commitment or the raiders. Also thought that was an intended to be funny scenario as well there. There's been times where i've heard cain laughter and didn't laugh very funny how you have on youtube. There's a whole bunch of clips of the big bang theory than i've watched. That's not funny. That's set that shows not frigging funny. Now don't get me wrong. But the difference is i can also say i don't recall every really laughing at big blaming either. A few lines right kind of chuck will just because like okay. I can so humor's very listeners. I i do not know. They're welcome to no. We're not say if you white big bang you're lame. No one's saying well better don't have come. I think the show is funny but and their context admittedly they're also looking at like those guys are nerds and she's not is like well. I guess if you're also telling a guy who collects borghese this ridiculous. Well i guess. I could see why he'd phone in that context humorous than on but same time their enjoyment of a shoulders. I mean i'm going to enjoy recover from different walks of life coming into this show sauce reasonable to believe that i don't come from the perspective that they would Sad you know they they were making fun of sheldon just for being different and i thought that was just a really bad thing to do and then sure so then. They gave him a show as a kid. Where they stephen like thinking about that. Makes me kinda even more sad. All right let's think about happy. Happy thanks for now. Let's your last your last pick. This is your last up. Make it happen before the which trust. I got a good one. My favorite one going to be there so this track comes from the game. Red earth in a track title is called icy. Wicked mark composed by takayuki y. Were wearing you down for that back. You're listening to icing wicked molly from the game. Red earth opposed by takayuki. Ui now this is a game. Minutely have never played before in my life never played in fact hadn't even heard of the game until preparing for this episode. I've only reason being that. I've never seen this one. The finding is like since. I'm glad to hear that you heard that either. Because i feel like you would have heard of it well before i would head got a lot of like weird imports and like like games. That never seen anywhere else especially like the mid to late. Nineties capcom era. But i've just never seen. I know i've heard of it. I've never seen it. And the reason why i back to. This game is because the character that i had mine i learned of her because of sa versus capcom sp chaos. That's where i know her from so like oh. She comes from another gain. When is it. i'm going to do raider earth. So who was that character. Well she goes by the name of tessa and i feel as though she'd make a great counterpart in combat to sabrina. The teenage witch. Because well they're both. Which is the one goes. By the term of sorcerer allergists but which is they both have cat companions. They both seek the pursuit of knowledge though. Admittedly sabrina is also a teenager so she also ceased the pursuit of you know. Cool food and awesome fash at the mall and hanging out with friends but she also seeks growth her spell correct well It's kind of funny in the sense that it's an obviously foregone conclusion as who would win this battle it'll be tested for sure because over. Magic is primarily focused around the idea of combat. How ever. I do think it will be interesting to see what sabrina would attempt to do. In order to bolster her skills to be able to handle combat against tessa. She has some options at our disposal to. She has her aunts. Were he'll hilden zelda. They're very powerful. Witches of their own writing knowledgeable as well back can provider with levels of guidance. Even so much beyond what she was originally expected to gain throughout the course of the series and comic books. She has her friends. Salem who is the cat originally was very powerful. Warlock overstepped the bounds of magic. Which is why he was curse as being a cat becoming a cat and not lest we forget there's also the entirety of the other realm which is a location that witches can go to through a portal. Which is essentially Another dimension totally primarily by witches. The cats does she could go there to guide from the witches council gets training scheme. You know some power boosting not. We're not talking hyperbolic time chambers from dragon ball here or anything like that so you could step up per game in anticipation of a scuffle with tessa. Sabrina went to a regular high school and stuff. Like what if she grew up in a more aggressive environment. You know like what. If she had to go to hogwarts t think then she would have like oh she will learn the protection against the dark arts whole. No pro made up. She absolutely would have done that she was. She is a product of her own environment. That's why i'm saying that. If tessa was the she was approached by tessa with a sense of you were going to have to battle this person. We don't know win but potentially soon prepare yourself. I think she'd step outside of our usual comfort zone. And bolster up and take on some of the skill empower that. She is destined to have her years. She can actually push for that sooner because she'll need it now but don't play. She's got four cavalry corps. Cat so at the dan. I think it'd be a pretty hilarious to watch these two. Go at it and of course. Sabrina was a comedy but as we also have come to learn in recent years. Thanks to net flicks comedy. Sabrina could easily go very dark. And very tells you can some demons helper battle in combat honestly a tgi version not so much a general character. Sabrina absolutely could so. Yeah i think with the right training in guidance she could potentially measure up the test. I think test could ultimately win. Unless sabrina hughes some interesting goffin's such as again something actual bona fide demons. But i think tessa would take it aside from using those elements of power. Yeah i think. It's a bad idea to put sabrina in that situation now. I don't think you should be doing that. i would. i should look despicable electric usage. Rob the laugh tracks so much charles speaking of some some some some matchups. That shouldn't happen. We're going to start with a kuma gooky from super puzzle. This is the music from super puzzle. Fighter two turbo for the arcade composed by tatsuo suzuki. You're listening to a koumas theme go. Cookies theme from super puzzle fighter two turbo for the arcade composed by tetsuro suzuki. And i i played this game a lot. I know this game. I know there's music really well. And i i was looking at up. It's been so long since i've thought about it but i don't know i was looking up today and looking up information about it and listening to the music again. Was there like a puzzle fighter. One leg or anything like that. There wasn't just super puzzle. Fighter two turbo. They're just kind of making fun of their own naming system by starting to game off that just this long title and that's just what they're win. So yeah i was thinking a kuma from From street fighter like the evil. Like what happens when the evil dark power takes over your body. You know you've committed your life to a life of training yourself for combat right And earl from dinosaurs. What a dinosaur. Who's committed his length to relax station in slough yes but also he made all the decisions that destroyed all of them in the last episode. what is solely him. Just the plant. He worked at the plant. He worked at the at the plant. I was reading through the synopsis on this. I couldn't believe it that he decided to. I forget what it was like to destroy the insects or something. That did that. And then they tried to shoot clouds in something into the atmosphere to bring back the the but the plant life so the bugs could survive and in doing so. They hit a volcano and caused a causal volcano erupted and for all of the dinosaurs to go extinct certainly. I thought that the show ended with the national. Nickel winter froze. It did not. The volcano blocked out the sun or something Was so the i think. That url deep down was just super evil and he was being possessed by the dark shadow. That's what actually triggered. If the bake that i wasn't really sure put in here. But then of course then the question becomes a matter of what so he because possessed and he is being flash frozen in time whereas all the other dinosaurs went extinct but he did not so he revised in this in the current age. And somehow because that's how capcom fighters work. He ended up in the tournament. We're bison is out there trying to come up with new ways to control people and to make new soldiers so he finds dna in amber from mosquito and grows a dinosaur from it saying he regrows earl yet but but this new earl is all about relaxation and being lazy with his family point. He trains it to fight battle. Earl battle hurl dined that danger. Dinosaurs was giant animatronic. Jim henson muppets. Last jim henson product. While jim henson himself was a around. Yeah i was reading about. Apparently the really fought for a long time to get that show off the ground And then finally ended up on tgif and it didn't last long last like one or two years and then it was just done and ended in the most and it's just the grimmest saddest way possible but if they dealt with a lot of weird topics and subjects that dealt with war drug use sexual harassment. Crazy de got crazy about jimmy wrong about it. Being one of jim henson's last shows unless he was part of constructing but didn't go on the air until after he passed away which i guess is possible. Swear recall hearing about him being associated with dinosaurs beyond just being the jim henson company but he was dead before dinosaurs hit the as it was just seemed like the right idea right. They make these big elaborate expressive disorders. That look like that. Move around and we're close like people but then put them into like a lame kind of family. Sitcoms situation to happen to goofy stuff. And that's you know that's exactly what it was converted. He died the year before dinosaurs starting. Oh is that what happened. So i wasn't wrong. He was a he was heavily involved with trying to get it off the ground. We'll just died before it premiered. Well he didn't have to see that. I'm i'm just glad that no i wasn't. I wasn't crazy. Which is that. Jim hasn't did come up with a show. He did fight to get it broadcast. He just died before they could get it on tv. I'm not crazy. Just have a really bride break. Well let's try that brain even more per now that's my segue because we are turning all of this music down and preparing ourselves and our quarters and and and our late night friday night pizzas for the bonus. Round has some fun. Show you how it's done with misread the come up with that. Just our rethinking about that. I just came out and it was it was. It was a reference to the jingo fatigue. Oh okay okay. I should put that in there. I'll see if i can match that up. Hopefully that works out. Your voice slowed down and sped up repair bonus round replay covers and remixes and arrangements on our theme. Which for us. Well i'm just going to attract then gonna have a lot to say about the matchup general The track title is is called the scope workers. It is a A remix a flash in the dark from the game mega man nine composed by one medrano food talk do Through impact do well. Hopefully that was enjoyed by all who heard it. Being the skull fortress composed by one medrano a flash in the dark from their game mega man it was the first widely stage in the game Also one of my favorite while he stages in the series hands down as far as music and actually by play. Also but yeah. I love this it was a melter and berry fitting track for probably one of my favorite conceptual match ups in the conference of tgi versus capcom. Being steve urkel yours doctor. Wyle oh yeah. I can see that all right. It measures up something fierce anything separating them as as time because you think about it doctor. Wyle and steve urkel had limitless funding. Because no one who's paying for all of urkel stuff who was funding. Michael follow the money. Follow the money while the money who was funding wiley also foul the money. You also have the fact that they were geniuses geniuses beyond their time. 'cause yeah while he had dr light but beyond doctor light it was pretty much doctor wyle. They were the pinnacle of science and their era. And i would say in the world of family matters. Steve erc was pretty much the pinnacle of knowledge there to the scope and stuff he say pick. I mean the guy. He built the time machine. He developed a machine that altered his actual dna so he could become multiple different people. All with different skill sets personalities. Voices and drake's he crafted he. He just could do. He billig nanno between the shrinking. Ray the guy can do anything. Steve urkel could do wherever the plot needed him to do. Literally i can easily see him being a district counter. He had oracle by there we go. He had urged but japan jetpack. There was a second button. You may tune addition urkel bustle. It's like rock and roll. Yeah urkel by like meyer abide. He had it all set up. Imagine a world where urkel was actually existent in the same timeframe as deem of doctor wyle he had the build robots to stop dr welby and it was urkel by in my robot versus while eight robots it would make total and absolute sense of loving. It would fight to. Because then he would just drink the frigging bruce lee potion and put on some kind of like weird electrified. Brass knuckles are bashing robots his fist. He goes to those little those little little containers and mega man x where he gets the new skills and the little holographic version of dr white comes out dr white. It's it's the cop. Try just carl. Carl always steve scale go away. I'm glad you made it here dots using this new ability to fight the evil doctor. Wyle you got urkel dance. And it's like it's like a dash spin urkel is the urkel dance will be the special counsel c nuff leading up to it will be still urkel when the capsules providing the different ways to urkel. But if you find you know in the original mega man x one to three. If you got all the special items and did a very weird thing in certain areas in the sigma stage you could find a special hidden castle. A streetfighter fighter to move in the case of this it would be a capsule containing. Car winslow arguing with steve urkel by and then result for reasons unknown. Because they would have to be you know what the dance. It'd be fantastic. It'll be a move that makes all the other machines feel so conflicted and confused. They just explode from. Just it's like it's like in a michael jackson's moon raker in the arcade you got one move. And they all dancing explode bingo. They'll be the urkel fires and urkel called mega. Maybe urkel bot xers by x. Urkel blonde ex. I've played the living daylights out of it. Totally does make sense and he can easily develop attachments to support by. He'd had like some of the urkel mobile brought a rush dog but instead of a rush exited the they didn't have an animal psychic so extant hera and it was like an actual physical tools like some various hyperpower. Urkel mobile check just like rocket across and smash through barriers always asked certain stages always asking for cheese. He's lobby the deputy tanks changed all of this cheese. Cheese would be the sub tank. So the subtext would be shaped like blocks cheap crisis here and you're like no no. They're tying of cheese cheese sub tanks cheese blocks. It totally makes sense. It would all mess steve. Urkel would be a perfect counterpart to doctor wyle and he'd be more hands on than doctor. Light yes yes. No doubt in my mind they would be. They would fit together so they can well. I watched that show meant. He play that game. If family matters had somehow like changed with the change with the times right and kind of reinvented itself and kept going. Do you think there would be a crossover. There could be a lie. it would take a lie. Mostly we also involve capcom wanting to do something more come on. no miller. Boykin productions started online petition for everybody. And you can sign at rhythm and pixels dot com slash. Save family matters video. Game for crossover with megabits. Please make it. That's a shirt holy moly. That's a t shirt. All right all right so we are moving onto this next track for marvel versus capcom. Two this is the clock tower stage and this is arranged and performed by the jayme music pocket band. Let's go this. This is really good I off took Patch i just that. Was the staff role. Live jazz cover. I'm sorry there's the clock tower stay show live jazz cover from j. music pocket band performed and arranged by and that was from versus capcom two and yeah it was like so fast and so funky. I really loved. I love everything about that. Track and i did till like honestly that is one of my two liked tracks from marvel capcom to that one and then there was the one that played when you were in front of that clown face circus circus weird stages in this game but the music is all this weird jazzy. Like kind of weird like cheesy jazzy stuff. I remember at the time people were houses over this time pass. It grew on everybody like it worked. By the time it was very bonkers. Yeah very different but still the game is the game is still played today. The component is still great. All right so for this game. I took strider. A futuristic cybernetic ninja here. You and what other martial artists master do we know from this from this series of t cody from Step by step by step. Yeah and i'm here to propose that. Strider and cody are the same person cody travels into the future using the urkel Technology and become strider. Yeah he he models. He basically wires the car. Cody's car cody's bike to travel into the future and does the strider here. You also drive a bike. Yes he does. That's ready a motorcycle with the thick and like cyprus hibernate wolves or dogs or something that follow him around I don't know if that's with the show but well what we do. Know about step-by-step for a majority lamour from folks in the know is he. He was the cousin of the lambert's most particularly the the father's side of the family He lived in the family's garage and he was kind of the the comic. Doug surfer do the relief on the show but he was also very proficient in the martial-arts was a bunch of b movie Martial arts move actor was martial arts movies of the time so but even the show. They had that one episode where they let them flexibility episode where The daughter one of the daughters was at a bar and people were kinda hitting on her. In a way that was a little bit too aggressive sign codeine. The dad stepped in and had a big bar fight. Because all the guys and it was like whoa. That's massey learned that he actually had that back grill. Took excuse promoting the episode. I'm going to post that. Video of family matters. No oh no never mind. It's if they give us family matters. But i'm thinking of fresh prince of bel-air and they cut gyles music to win. Uncle phil starts playing pool. Oh that was. That was a good episode. I was thinking. I was thinking the pool hall of the same the same place to get out of trouble. He plays pool and beats the pool sharks but they played episode. Because he gets the butler. You'd like you bring me lucy lucille. Yes the name of it named his stick or for more information on the bonus round good a rhythm and pixels dot com live links to these artists abang camps and sound clouds and really the both of these artists have have like some really really really good ban camps that you can check out and they have a lot of music that took up. And there's a of totally just remembered Steve urkel also create a cloning device. Oh let's see it's ready. He should've had a video game by now that it's done everything i swear. Thanks for joining us on episode. Twenty six dash nine of rhythm pixels our f. versus capcom. We finally made it happen a good dialogue. Like i'm sure so. What can be listening like it could have gone further going deeper on this topic. Actual full blown. I don. i don't think so we've had too many. we've had too many normal episodes. We had to have what we heard. What i love the concept. I it just. It felt the static fun even my hearing other people eventually. What about these characters characters. Because to me these are some of the best topics we do come up with their hard to decide on the lake. Coming in a stroke of like weird luck. Like wait a minute. that's perfect. Then they got to write down because don't forget it in an hour and now the imagination runs wild type. Have wacky dialogue. Like steve or versus. Doctor wyle it why. Cody glamorous fit stronger than reconstructed order to save person. Read just it was bound to happen. It's just it's so much fun to have these dialogues. This quarter other people jumping on it to them like. Hey you guys forgot about this character. What about the mom from getting by she'd make a great combat and then their smart. That's different show. I wonder if. I don't think maude warwick. Smu seventy s. It's it's plex server that i have access to and every time i scroll past i see maud. I can't think of the theme song. Great theme song is so catchy as weirdly. Catchy anyway so thanks for. Thanks for listening to this this whole episode. We do do appreciate it. Hopefully you got a few good chuckles. Got your style. Bean running and for those out of the states. Hopefully you were like well. I asked you to look at a little bit. More about this whole. Tgif thing maybe next week is twenty six dash ten. This is the end of season. 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"Woke means, SEDATION ESPN AFC on down Thomas later on the show Gammon jobs will be to discuss Luis Suarez as mood Mexico Madrid album murata returning to your vents us. We start though in the care about cutting on just united where they three nil victory over Luton town Craig Steve and mark with us. I'm laughing Craig, what do you WanNa talk about this game? He said the final final whistle. Anything. Any takeaways? We don't have to talk about this and we don't want to. Take it was well, are you going to social changes and he was moaning today about not having of fitness in his players they were ready to start the season the basically the rest of them all. So the affections to play players and getting fit for the week again against brightly pasta. What the game while I think it just proved what we already know that Gallo isn't good enough for minorities should have replaced in this summer. A lot a lack of depth at the scored Eric by maybes about option and Victor Lindelof. Have Henderson looks okay with one seven book. Really gave you tell us most beyond the fact that what we already know that when united only plays out need in a puff on the bank. Let's discuss those comments social made ahead of this game mark alluded to. Came out and he said we need four or five games to get up to the standard. We know what capable of we haven't had an opportunity to get those games in and we have to make sure in these Games we get minutes and make the players ready to start competing in the League again Craig what struck me from this is that schone everyone is in the same boat the moment why is social trying to make out as if Manchester? United a hard done by. Stevie earlier he's he's one four or five. Games set eleven pillow. points. Often, run up point are you would imagine So let listen has dropped to get up and running not been an ideal scenario for everybody. Everybody. And so. An extra we call in terms of the season started phlegm slightly. So that's a little bit rest and recuperation or fitness training at. Had A bunch of preseason friendlies at Chroma Mabilu is one or two for some, but you know just just don't be making and August said if. Is Not much further than then give them whenever and a game against Luton tone. Here's the deal that would help for your much shop. I suppose from the game on one thing would be by some gametime because. Lindelof. Per Game, we can't was involved in all the goals that they lost, and that's the problem that's another problem area for Manchester United they need to solve. Stevie four or five games to get up to speed. Well, it smacks of a little bit of these take the pressure off and. Make an excuse. But then to say what it does after about about using the Kandebow Cop. To. Get. Up to speed, and then he will only please one player from the stopped it in the weekend just makes them look stupid And then my opinion, it was ship and move to listen you plan your plan a team in. A league below year, they made four to five changes as well to their normal star light sole. It wouldn't have been not taxing settling tax and fee of black five. You got him on the field and got some time together unfitness, and then you six six more the played and you can take three off. It makes no sense. The first part of the get, he's trying to make an excuse. But to Tony say what it did, and then no toner just makes them look a little bit finish. Here's the deal. Steve who say, Oh, you know player even after Phil preseason. And probably six seven marches or whatever as you play preseason. No player come the FOS premier. League much. Or League much of any domestic season across the globe as ready. I had Jim Beg on the commentary yesterday on the road game talking about he used to think it took a month before the would opt to fill up a month could be you know five, six, seven games before you really fill your fill within yourself. Every team in the League is facing the same bottle, the quicker you get your players and gametime competitive much time. Then the quicker you please get up to fill fitness. No big resented the first premier league game of any season and the not sure breathing heavy because the paint's of. Proper Games compared to pre season as a night and day in. Lesson. You'll have to look at Liverpool against at least united. The traps. Flying all over the parish could a lost the game because it's taken the it's aims. So everybody's in the same boat I thought was interesting the narrative after the defeat against Crystal Palace Mark was the fact that this is why would would need the finger out and bring in new players as opposed analyzing the players that are actually on the pitch and over on the stand of Manchester United team is so much higher than crystal. Palace yet he seemed to get a pass for some reason we can quite get. Because Monday night always make big promises during the early part of the window, and then when it comes to the end of it, they haven't delivered on those promises in the funds for straighten and you look at the team thinking that we could be so much better. So. I think the manager will always get a pass when Edward was in charge at would now will. Ever be it. Because it's the same story every summer the under deliver the over promising on deliver, and we've seen him ten days to go through the window shorts and shine one play in the big target Sancho. COMING ALONG Haven't. With the look they're left book. Talks why the funds turn on the board because they feel they let the manager down. But it's not. Right here is my point. How many of those Crystal Palace starting eleven we'll get into the mansion's nine team that starts at Old Trafford, the weekend maybe one or two. So surely, this isn't just about personnel. This is about coaching and getting the best out of these plants which only clearly and I know it's only one game, but we have seen it quite a bit over last season as well. That doesn't seem to be a tactical plan in place to get the best out of these managed united players. He's Kennedy jumped on off the roller coaster. You know it comes under horrible and all of a sudden, the fun tastic and they pick up and everything's great. We all the. History repeat itself going to incredible Ron as well after the after the stop. Unnoticed after this season. Absolutely. Horrible. So I think this is more mortar poke. And we keep talking about only because we're not really talking about the players. It's always is only good in his only not good enough. It's only going to how come only keeps getting a pot well. He's Self mine united and the right time where the people upstairs are not quite sure what to do and so he's getting up past one of those little bump in the road as well. So he's over before and he keeps getting. Plus the United on paper. Exactly on paper should be in the top four and they well. I'll tell you what as far as putting performance he's together. You just. Again we're back in the rooms. We're not sure what we're going to get, but the get away with. And then you can understand why Marino resources straighted. Love of aluminum marmite character great cv but he could see it and you know let let's be frank. So guys just happy to be there right is won the lottery been manager reminds us united coming from where he was and what he achieved as a manager, right? So he was planted. As an appeasement of the fines initially by the ownership in. Edward would and. short-term but but quite frankly you know is he going to be buying fest on on on the door on the desk about were demanding the finances are spreading around on top quality players going to the media and complaining about the Club Because Not Buckingham? No, he's not Ferguson set back and take. No would clock would while the all over the top coach? No, they would not. But he's sitting there as taking that on the Chen. Grow known again but of a soft soap but then. He just hoppy. It'd be a nutjob. But as I said all along I, don't think he's going to be a Nutjob long-term and he certainly not been helped by Edward but. At the moment is just running this place. So shortly from a federal perspective. Scary there miles behind set in Liverpool usov mindset in the first half yesterday it was incredible. Okay. Second half was about more techy follow you gotta expect up but they were incredible and they had six or seven players angeled and we know that Liverpool can do as for united while we're going to be silenced on Showbiz saying player. Not. No absolutely deadly squawked apart from Donovan. Big For Manchester. United's not good enough am Oh, just a few weeks ago you broke the story Manchester United were interested in Meccano who looks like a perfect fit for their side that needs some quality at the back. And get him. Because you're not a reputation I feel since before they take forever to get a deal done prevaricate they tried to knock people down every clue tries to haggle bought. United Look. To the degree in is so slow they just talk deals DOT COM account had an escape clause that which would have made him available for less than fifty million pounds last month than the chance then. So you know day begin in charges as chief executive for ten years between two, thousand, three, hundred, thirteen. At what is now approaching eight years in the job and we still get an story every year that. Turn the ship around is going to take time. Processing Place. DNA The united way wherever eight years is almost been there as long as David guilt and they're still talking about trout find a way to do things properly does not football. It's been two years since I was floated. No technical. In. Actually, it's really really hard to find can move forward. I don't see any any real plan other than the the key talk about younger players and finding the right fit for club. If you'RE GONNA get one every window is tech forever until. Going to pull further further away and the guys who are GonNa Salsa. Nice Guy Club. When that's always pretty much interview tonight. It felt like user money reserve team it doesn't elect. To the players will able to sign for be able to play on US I. Still don't see what is. White plays. Wave planes you look at Klopp Gaudio you know what they bring to the. Throw some big monitors that go clear leg reporter Tino and listening is so grown. To puzzle deputy while. Majesty. United through to the next round of the Caravelle Action continues over Wednesday Thursday certainly to gain stands out on Wednesday also take unless the city meanwhile Thursday Manchester City, play host to former. Hey it's your homie. Sorry it's your home. I know you don't like it when I call myself your own. So I have some favors to ask you could you get rid of a few chairs in the living room? Floor boards are tired and other easy thing which save money. If you bundle your home and car insurance with Geico one more thing, I know you love lavender scented candles but could try to vanilla. I think it would fit my five better go for bundling made easy. Go to GEICO DOT. com today. The latest edition of the Gavin just podcasts as always available to download over on the website we joined by the two stars now Jewison. Gaba with us. Gabon WanNa talk to you about Luis Suarez who's going to outlets Madrid that is done. But of course this week we thought maybe he was going to advantage in preparation for that he went and took his Italian citizenship test. Why is this relevant atoll? Well, it turns out he's cheated on this test that was phone typing and all this kind of Netflix's excitement around its and what's GonNa Happen Now. Well So I. If you're wondering why he needs to determine citizenship test, it's because in Spain to be counted in you player, you just need to have a spouse who's who's in EU citizen, which which wires has a residential you have to be a most of your you have to use it isn't It's not like he was taking test just. So you could go to vendors. He would say he was doing it to keep his options open to go to any club but. He has a need to take the test. Now, the absurdity miss is he decided to take the test at University I. Fiddle. which will goes in and test people on behalf of the of the Italian. Government and the problem is this place had been under investigation. Since February because they were accused of basically how can I put this basically like arranging vision having very easy tests of short where you know you talk to the Guy Informally Beforehand he tells you everything you need to know, and then he gives you a high grade. So. All these guys have been wiretapped fiddle. John. The wiretaps reveal that they're discussing Juarez and one guy's going Joe George did speak a lick lick of Italian. But of course, we're going to help him pass and stuff like that. So he's not officially under investigation yet. These people rings exam are under investigation. Yeah. It's not a good look for him at all. I mean football is it doesn't matter because he's taking in Spain but not a good look on. You've meant this by the way adamant that they had nothing to do is to test. You know they had lost interest in in in Suarez as long as a week ago. So Suarez going Athletico Madrid the deal they cut was they will pay Barcelona two million year is for every time they make it to the quarter-finals of the Champions League Joe's, and it's funny because you think about cars you think washed up thing is a it rubbish. We've Creko lack of pace on the show things like that but his numbers are still pretty good twenty one goals last season he's something to offer as name. I'm also sure that yeah of course twenty one last season we may see in your team news twenty one goes probably in season even you even you could go so other. No. And we? Different from US I think I think Messi with the women more than men but I think he has a fitness. Wise. He hasn't been fit for a wide you could see. Yes. Sometimes used games and technically. Gifted player just he run as much as you used to economic runs, it doesn't have this movement. You could clearly tell and I think he would give you some games some good games now, and again, I, just don't think for season you can rely on him and that's why I'm a bit surprised out clubs actually ventures and even not to Madrid, really have been looking for them benign for more than eight months now since since January last year within some Kalani and and for them to just good to throw is now thirty three just finding a bit disappointing. So Suarez going. Let's see which means that our murata is way and he's heading to event scab. This seems a bit strange considering how poor as being. On a few years now, Sean, I just don't have to live by the fact that I just heard Juliet. Moines. Say that world champion World Cup winner Frenchman on Greece Man. Is Not as good as Dan Thomas well. Anyway. Classify. It's not super strange when you when you consider the event is are on a very, very tight budget again, they announced huge losses last year they had to basically right off the last year of Plasma tweedy and and England's wings contracts. So, they're limited in what they can do now remember they were going for and Jekyll that was their top target given the transfer fee in the wages with GIECO versus Murata, it works out roughly the same in terms of terms of outlay they like more because a Moronta loves being Middle East and his wife is a and whatnot. He did have a really good spell when he was at this before he works really hard and they feel that he's versatile in that you can ask him to fry. You've been asking them to play as a second striker. You'll basically do what he's asked and they think that which Christiano Murata diva include Cesky. You know they've got four good strikers with different skill sets and they can use different combinations chose objective gieco rats or any day. I mean I think for Murata, people have been too obsessed with these numbers and how many goes through Tennessee that you could make can bring you something very different to just go and I think that's important the way. We want to play. This team will be built focus channels so you need to strike A. China was more goals than himself and I think. Jacob. Would have done that. Do. That could that could work really well, I think unlike another. Another more sensitive striker if you want who would have who'd been there to scoot when you're twenty five season, I think Roger can easily fifteen but would have given fifteen to Christian as well in the same season and that's why I think. He makes sense. He's a very intelligent player who moves where of course. Of course, sometimes he's I. thought she was really bad and yeah, he's he's not clinical enough compared to other strikers back as I can see doing media well. Of. Pillow inventive style of team just going back to Barcelona we knew when you've told us as many times as they go get rid of players free up funds to bring plays in. So we've got Suarez out rocketed out via Dow authors gone as well tomato to wolves they're suggestions that they've already found a replacement for some eight oh in. Desk Gills we thought he was going to go to by Munich. We now be having to Catalonia. Yes. That's right down which is surprising in the sense that usually when. These transfer negotiation and they get the planet they won't really needed to write back and I think they've identified this long longtime ago on the guy who could come in and do. That however clearly. are found the world to convince him to choose them head of by Munich they also need to right by because as we said, Semedo has been bad for years and not finally good for them is is leaving says you Roberto? He's really a midfielder right back. So the Sydney did someone coming in? Place Nothing. So she knew this with all the potential Ya that we all know is a really good signing for Bossa potentials the word here though Gavin as far from established. Yeah. You're talking about a guy who really only add a half season. I ex wasn't starting earlier this year because he was unsettled by being listed likes of firemen. In Barcelona. I still wonder about this we are getting conflicting reports about whether the deal is done because certainly Byron seem so far at a wonder if it's one of those situations where you club deal with the other club as a deal with the selling club, should it could be more to come on. Certainly. I think with regards to the content on media and then Barcelona Fans I. Don't think. So Gino Loan. Is GonNa, keep the masses. Happy. Not Manley's to the question who could keep them. Happy. We've mentioned memphis the pie before what's happening etchells. He's waiting for the court. He's waiting for us to and make an offer to your own today. Again, young were saying that we have nothing memphis is on the market they hoppy to sell him. He has just one year left on his contract and Franz he's not going to renew so. They they've come to terms. Leave the summit, but there's no offer you can leave. So they waiting for Boston now he's waiting for boss or not he's he's going to agreement with declared. There's no problem about the he wants to go with Kumon as well. So went together for the national team but right now, Boston are moving in terms of making offer from face and I think Memphis and these people, and certainly a lot of people in France and not others submitted has gone through the money's coming in from Boston they can spend up all memphis face but spending the. New Desk, but then should be. So I'm not sure what's next for men face he sternly waiting for the court, but at the moment accord is now coming, is it the pile faster Vassar gap? It may well be if this were Kuban wants I don't think it's why it's what it should be I think what you're seeing is. A lot of clubs are in the same boat. A lot of clubs have high priced veteran players that. They would like to to to move on if possible whether on loan or or whether on the low Fi I wouldn't be surprised if as we get closer to October fifth is Barcelona can't get Memphis on their turn on their terms. Maybe you know maybe they look to somebody else maybe look for another striker. WHO's out there on the market we'd actual genuine. Striker and because I think that is something that's missing from Barcelona right now maybe not somebody to play every single game but it's something really Barcelona other than Suarez really haven't had in a very, very time turn it is to to bring in off the bench and certain games meanwhile on, Wednesday? Gills. We could have some sort of resolution regarding the punishment to be handed off what we saw occur in classic. Thus, ride the discipline committee of the League will will meet again. And this time, the main headline is. Mario Spit towards Varo in game against between. PSG. In Marseilles Squawk News if you look at the game again and the footers the definitely spots on automobile viral and I think for that unhealthy Maya who will appear in front of the committee via zoom or video conferences something but could could be banned quite heavily which would be a huge loss for PSG and then obviously the race all the racial abuse from. A volatile Neymar. Now, also from Neymar to he rookie Sakai the Japanese ride bike in Marseilles I think we could. We could maybe have the outcome of that tomorrow on Wednesday nights or however it looks more likely that they will last for more time to continue the investigations to look again more footage maybe to some point, ask questions to name our to our to. Sakai's where we she's not planned for tomorrow night. So, we might not see the outcome of the older racial abuse incidents that we've seen during the game, but certainly for the demise. Should be tomorrow. And we'll be discussing on the next edition of the show. Thanks very much poice. You're wrong will be returning then to go all the latest findings from that meeting. It's your apartment speaking and I need some favors when you're singing in the shower, just try going up the key. You're trying to be an alto when really you're a soprano Oh and if you could bundle your renters car insurance with Geico, it's easy to do online and we could save money and then when you read your murder mysteries at night, could you read out loud but? Skip the murder parts because I get scared. GEICO DOT com today. You may have seen it already on plus where you might not have yet be sure to check out within the NFC group the new Siri show racism, the red card shocker talking to a number of different people including director of Football Qpr Les Ferdinand let's bird now the only black director of football innings. Do you feel you're carrying the weed the responsibility. Hopes every young lack for a? Black, coach of hoops to become a director football one day and the reason I asked that alleged because i. so the comments recently made by Ian Wright's seeing that you had to be a success for the next black man to be considered director of football you needed. To Be Successful, I want to probe further because. What one do you feel that way? Why do you feel that way? Why is it? You have to be successful another black person. To get an opportunity when the door always seems to be open as you rightly point out for so many Ex. White football. I mean to me. Check see. Directors. A football guy from one club to another for one club turnabout. What feld women have not quite done what I needed to do at one glove again, Opportunity and number club, and I think the reason why am was signing she only thing complete gold is the fact that if not successful would get an opportunity elsewhere that can only be the the the point that he joins Mike I understand to agree raise gummer wrong because you can't kill when you. Haven't been in the industry naughty industry. And see how it works you. You have to be successful to be given another opportunity somewhere else if I decided to leave Rangers I have not Kohl's I have in a week. Where we have young agents actually wants to do this I young black men who are in university Kumi. Once speak to me about how do they get in? How do they get across the fresh odor front to be able to get any of you decide this devolved I wanNA do. And I think Jordan's doing something. On two. Weeks ago he said Look Les Ferdinand wasn't given the third the the job kick you out because he was the best director of football around Eve's given up the chimney and he's Always given an opportunity that I loaded Caucasian people have been given the opportunity to try and do the Royal Game Journey each to route that you become someone else might your job because you've been good in the club. But I never seems to be the position for for young black men. One is wanting to go because I speak about football or Tom and I say it's not just Black class to do. This physios despoil scientists days you know all sorts of different jobs in a football club as you non-shocking needs to be done yet. Nine hundred nine, nine, Ninety, eight percent of it is dumbo Caucasian people. I can only get to the conclusion I only come to the conclusion. That people change your employees foot looks like then sounds like match lighting shack. With us now, shock what's great about this series. Let's. Finance, WE'RE GONNA I thought West McCain was excellent as well. Is that you have time you have time to have a proper conversation as opposed to just a five minute soundbite. and. First of all, thanks to my ex team mates and friends in the game who made themselves available for these conversations it was the also happened. A month or two ago. When we were at the height of of these discussions around race and around equality and everybody was willing to speak their truth. I thought that was very powerful because we have very different experiences in the game. We have very different outlooks even right now we occupy different positions you mentioned less finance director of Football Western mckinney as as as a current player I also interviewed. Chris. Powell who is working with the English fa and he was telling me about some of the programs they have in place in trying to increase the diversity and inclusion within English football but it highlights how multi layered. This issue is and how many different ways. I think black people have been denied opportunity. And how we now have to open those channels if we ought to recognize the racial equality that we all want to believe that this will is heading to what's shackle I didn't know and I read the article on the website which will promote in a minute that you wrote was the fact that you got involved with show racism, the red card really early in its inception while you're new council going into schools and talking. About this not. A number of things and I'm a touch, a Brittany article as well. My father, he was a teacher England and the mid sixty s was wrongfully arrested for attempted auto theft sued the Metropolitan Police and one. So that type of racial harassment has always been something that. Has. been there and has been A. In the background in my own existence, my dad also took his winnings from that lawsuit enrolled in law school. So he became a part of the judicial system. He became a part of the solution. So when the opportunity presented itself to me at Newcastle. I saw that as my as my chance of being part of the solution I had. I was recently abused has gyms as par by some kids who initially didn't recognize me then did and wanted autographs on an spoke to my my duality within within England at the time from one hundred yards away I was seen as a black man to be disrespected from twenty five yards away. I was seen as a new car footballer and want to be lauded. Show is able to use that experience in in going to schools and speaking to kids speaking my own truth and I feel resonated with them but it also, it also felt me kind of delivering on on the example that my father said. Thank you very much just reminding racism the red card available now on. ESPN. aforementioned. Article by the way available now on the website really in debt very interesting stuff shocking going deep about his involvement which racism, the red card from its very days. I'd say, then that brings us the end of today show. Thank you very much to everyone who is being. We'll be back tomorrow to reflect a more care about COBB action post lesser against also we'll say Chelsea playing. Each, the join us then. Welcoming. Of extra time. Thank you as always feel tweet shack is up and frank leboeuf with us. Frank. Have you got anything Nathan so No. No. But I, have I have a rooster right for the French. I've she got rooster checking bumblebee relevance land. That's Third College. Oh Good. He's. A good friend of mine court there. Okay and we gotta go B.'s Verner is played well out on the left White Chelsea playing out there and stick Giroux up salt that would surely take pressure off. Ease him into the premier league frank. While he's doing great. So far I mean these for the players were signed for Chelsea is the best. The best recruitment so far he does everything he has to do I. Think he has no pressure. I think frank never considered the on Jerusalem this season Jerus- maybe the third striker after. Abram and and that's what it is and statement I think you WanNa play verse as well. So there's no room for Giroux and has to take all the pressure, but he's he's begin. Frank. What did you say about this question when you heard it, I? said it was a stupid question. Look Professional. Shaikha how demoralized must be right now? Did you ever have moments in your career for you hit rock bottom and how did he regain your confidence? Remember tests I've been exactly what is I remember? As New Kosta wear. It was tough. It was it was tough. To get. Myself. To. Move. Clubs. I went from Newcastle. London Join West out. It's a hard bounce back for capital from from where years and I'm not sure what honest advice anybody could shot mentality like when you're in that sort of situation going into games, it's Just obsessed about not making mistakes. Yeah. which is kind of what surprised me about. Capitalism mistake against Liverpool if you're not playing, well, you're low on confidence. Just do things simply don't take chances I. Don't know why you tried to possible out to the back these. Did you know and those circumstances just. Kicking, long you know just be. Sensible and the side of caution but he didn't do that and going into even more trouble. And frankly folks your terrible awful games you've had for Chelsea in the past, do you how'd you over those? I tried to forget to forget the things you know asap. That's the only thing you can do. It's it's you always want to to rebound and the as possible and do good for you for your teammates. Asleep for like two days after she'll okay I'm a computer after go back in as Chuck said, just go back to the simple thing do and and make sure you do dot twelve I. We've before know making things more complicating but otherwise yeah there's nothing much to do we professional players we have to be ready for that sorts of problems that we have during our carrier and we have to make sure we can bunt is why we have been chosen as professionals. How'd you get on with just a day to day away from the football family stuff and all that when all in your head you've got all this stuff going on. That must be quite a difficult thing to deal. On one that's the challenge but then that can can be escape as well. Not I don't know what? Kept US person situation life but for me. It was good to get to we. Spent time with the family away from the game and. You. Know. Pleaded England where where everybody is a fund doesn't mean separating yourself from. You know whatever city is you're playing in you know in my you know go for a long drive and friends sometime family in in that regard. But you just have to try to find those escapes where. How You Meanwhile. Seats beginning with age thirty eight. Do the guys now any other players who played this well in their late thirties Well you. have. Zenit in Inter. Inter Milan Tin Player. Who I can say as been absolutely fantastic and to the end of his career, you have intern playing for Marseille Brazilian central defender and being foam runner is forty one and he's still giving everything football as quite amazing it doesn't play regain every time. He plays I. Mean. He's great. He just got a red card last weekend but. He's still fit and when he was thirty eight, he was still very, very competitive, getting hotter and hotter after and not that is just. An exception you have to say an exception he's a monster shocking part on the same level as last time you kind of think maybe Teddy Sheringham played late didn't he? Yeah. I figured along so Teddy Sheringham. Midwest them. He was already into sports. Believe. We together in a finalist but rest up. But yeah, you're right. No. Not at the same not the same level but Teddy Sheringham's is the only player I think of my. WHO got up to that higher need? Maybe sure I'm trying to remember her worst your best laws and when I played alongside of my first down but those those two. Exceptions to the. Ordinary rule I can think of. Does Real Madrid O'Neill role. Prove that Gareth Bale's presence in the locker room was the glue holding the team together and he was the reason they won the champions leaky. The first question. That's even worse. Sure I'm sure that is tongue-in-cheek. No doubt about that. How he's going to get I. Will I wish him the best. You wishing the. I don't know I. Don't know I mean he has all the qualities to to. To to rewire viable in facts but we don't know these mentality is the biggest question luck. I mean, if you think about golf even if It doesn't. It's not gonNA work. We'd have to go back to work to make sure that. Fitness is back and that. Everything is in the right place in his brain to make sure that you will help out the disperse think shank T- wishing well. We're all the very best. Garath. I think it'd be Greece in all honesty. I mean. As long as you can stay fit I, think big deal shank. Mizzou I'M NOT A. MAGRITTE's. Stupid question. Don't want why we don't have an answer. No answer you gave it. Is Onset. It'd be great if he stays fit well, Great East don't be on. Track No. Oh Frank Yeah. Good let's go in your. Uniform. Getting. And you have a really good t shirt shock. Okay. Frank off the haring ever have is rent the Manchester United Board about Aaron competency. Do you agree the x plays do have a part to play? Let's keep the legacy of their ex clumps. Oh. Yes. Yes. I. Agree I. Think I think it's A. Duty after serving a club to defend it strongly maybe not as strong as as ever. And did just did maybe. being a little bit. More politically correct I. We say but I I want to defend Chelsea like I want to defend Strasbourg and Marseille because I've played there and I WANNA make sure that All the new people working at the ball players were working on the field will give Andrew Jackson because the club that I played for deserve that because I share them up. and. That's the same thing for forever and any other players I remember. Seeing the themes and fantastic Peter osgood Chelsea coming to the training ground and to dressing room of before and after the game telling us how much loved Chelsea and you have to make sure that you keep on saying that the new players to the people who love the club and just did what he felt with these words but just what he felt, he thinks. United is the best in the world and he tries to defend its even against the people who are in the both I. Think it's just fair is fair for every players love club that he played four to defend it. Yeah. I listened as as experts. I think you have that right the writer of a fire to criticize the club. Dodge support and I think I speak for most of us with one notable exception but we all can all support Clubs and feeders, aware fans and US funds. You have that right? What Manchester United is also done very well over the years as ex players ambassadors for the officially as ambassadors of the club, and if if that's the key I don't know about that if he is not only does have a right I think he has a responsibility to speak up when he sees something that that he doesn't like no I, get the point there the federal we used to do that but if has been trying to reach out to this jennings or whatever his name was Woodward and and I'm not able to make any headway. In, traditional means and calling them I'm trying to arrange meeting the speaker them that way then yes. Go onto social media and call them out if if that's what you feel you need to do. On the anniversary of eleven Basque's five, zero out in nine minutes. What was the best individual performance of the guys have ever seen in person? Opposite the burn about when run out Dina was unbelievable in the classical extraordinary got sanitation two thousand and finally. That's mine for now. Dean you Frank. In. Person I. Just to name the the World Cup final when. School, two goals and it was absolutely exceptional. But I wanNA grog it when I had the chance to score a hat trick as a defender and scoring two penalties and there was a third one and you don't want to shoot. But I stayed up and the missed it but the goalkeeper released the ball and I called the third one. So scoring a hat-trick as essential half central defender is course something and I was there in person because it was meet, it's not real. To scenes and in a rebound. I've seen the replay of you're the one you're encroaching as well if that was baldy. was a hot trick and as you see that. Hat trick is called to, and that's the third one because the game means the penalty. So. We'll see that Caveney e Cardi three never scored a goal because the. Goal is to. Mock. So that's what I did on the third goal. So please Don denied my my my third goal and my hat trick only one of my carrier for Gutsy who you paying again Sunday twelve. The story about that and you are. Somebody. Doing something exceptional is that the player was being against and player who did the three foul for the was the same one. City three penalties. He wasn't a hero he sounds really good. Chocolate yeah. Yeah. That was good. Thanks for the World Cup Sweden. He posted. To best innovative performances playing for Newcastle three down at home to Leicester. Alan Shearer scores a hat trick we went for three. But, the best individual performance obscene I've witnessed played a weird Stamford Bridge Chelsea get a man sent-off. Eleventh Minute. We go on and scored the twelfth through we one up at Stamford Bridge and then D- drug bust Hicks gave over in a way I had never seen anybody. He was simply unplayable Chelsea basically plead. AIDS at the back of drug about front the one four, one Kelly, it was as best individual performance has ever witnessed from the sublime to the ridiculous without mentioning Names Shack Kit can you tell us the worst blunder defender on your team commits resulted in a go frank west Howard goalkeeper on your team committed you can name names. Can't think of any like really bad blunder. I remember. One. That stands out is just gotten back into the team up at Newcastle we hold. Screws. Seven on a strange as it may sound I played really well that game and then right to the death. I think he's got a corner. I'm John Beresford. I. Remember. If he scored an own-goal or just dwelling on the ball in the box or think he kicked it to somebody on the ball went in Lost McLean. She's. In thousand nine hundred minute after really well, that's that's kind of stung. Only WanNa really remember but. IT WASN'T A. Up. With Frank. towards the international game, we play in Russia Russia against France and. And during the discussion before the game in. said to, US defenders never never done. Give the ball to the Pearl. On the bad state you know and you would put him in danger but one after fifteen minutes know note nothing to do but giving the ball to keep her because I was under pressure at and I make sure I made sure that with the ball just outside in case you would miss it but he controlled it and the only thing he had to Chris Guy. To Take on the striker and he missed it and we lost one nil. The Wall. So, it's a bit of my of me because I gave him the ball. So maybe Checking she backed. What's up with a? good. That's not knowing High. Frank. That's nice. A Hike Frank L.. O.. Away from. We see. No. Squeaking noise. Hi Frank. Maradona said Ronaldo and his Aria would become the greatest ever over pellerin himself if not for the injuries do you agree? Okay we'll, Cup, final. Put over everybody else right. Because for me is is somebody I think All Of the proportion would have been even even bigger and better. So I think police the top of the top I never been a big fan of Mara Donna. And Renaldo yes. Of course, he has meaning juries, but he was already almost there. Would have been better. Would I be better than than? Maybe maybe we will never know, but he was absolutely fantastic that absolutely the picture abo shoulder set Palais isn't it? Chelsea. On Francois Yes after the Yes. Yeah. After the final game to to to somebody and Pelican came and and well I had to kiss from and he said, you know when I see you feel good which is pretty good for from from Philly. So I said you know what? Don't say anything at anything you can go have a glass of champagne for me. To everyone does name. It's like when you ask him who's got copy Japan's which country you're. Just spending all the time. So you think that he would have been would have seen checkout during an intimate. Trinidad and Tobago. Win The win the WORKUP. Yes. Okay, he'd be right. Okay. Next time you same. Awesome. Sound very well Frank. What did you know how to speak? English. Why don't you like Maradona? I think football is a game you play eleven's against eleven. You know what I mean. I. Think. I don't like the demand I. Don't like the way he was living his life. I. Wouldn't be the example give to to youth and. I met him once and I wasn't wasn't Nice I. Think He. Thinks. He's better than anybody else. So you don't like him where I met the biggest and they always being humble, which is not the case. So I have no, it wasn't fantastic. Food borough was a fantastic. Dribbler whatever you want to say but I like I like Platini Because Platini was giving to others. Mouth was keeping the world for himself and that's not the way I see football after that is a fantastic fantastic player but no, my top of layer. So shocker Pele sense of frank lots of Nice things and now he's the greatest Maradona not so nice forget about every. Selfish. Exactly. I'm glad you use something typically they're done because hit as well. Shocking. You love for now. Yes. I do. Agree with the questions injuries he would have. I think you just stop this December as agreed without without question. You just see what he what he did. He was when when he was fit over, you know a two or three year period. He does that for eight or nine, which was quite within the possibilities give him his age I. Don't think it would even be a discussion of this. Did you did you face each other internationally at all? Did. You ever have a conversation with him where he said they loved watching. Run every time you play I feel. Westbrook you to you have something against me today or what? I. Don't know how I know because I never say that like my roden because. I to me. Like. The way he played four and that's it. Wasn't. Meaning wasn't Hembo. Always, not only me but the other. So he said you're understanding was in two thousand six. Two Thousand Six Cup and there's so many other players and you say L. looked nobody. So I wasn't only me when I see Philly Bauer Keegan all those big stalls being emboldened saying hi to everybody. That's it. I heard he said you a terrible actor as well. Mobile. Not. Right. Fodder questions shocking. What is the strategy while facing penalties pick aside to dive or wait until the last moment to see if you determine which side the strike is going to go. Oh. Well, it's true strategies. Okay. I think us if during a game and generally is the best you take on the team. Hopefully you're. Works. Preferred side on you leave it to the very last minute and hope you can get it. If, as an opponent to shoot, you have one main teacher, you have maybe a second choice. But you have three who probably going to take more than one or two parents kicks during the course Judy coast of the season between them. So you can you can leave litter and leave leave. I tried to see what what they do because. You're thinking is not going to be that good that exact or they might be new themselves. So you have a charge of mcleese leaves that we how would you fancy your chances frank now Cheka in a penalty. For every time I see frank. Another question having a question. How many penalty did you stop? You stop. Checkup. A few I didn't count trunk I remember seeing a couple of commanded new. Account. You sure did you stop one? Guy. Saved. I have saved a few. I said the Michael, Owen pounds the on my fifty fifty. Beat Liverpool one nil in the effort. Are With Not was was he already, Balladur? It'd be lost two thousand. Doesn't count. It doesn't come. With you chances against shocker now. Now? Yes. Yes. Before Maybe not before but Yeah. You never know he's kind of lottery you know. Just. Picture. We've got Maradona says. No chance shocker would save. US Right. For the first time, he's white full to things. Like just going back to the store you attending before about hat trick. Why didn't you take the third? Your hat trick penalty. because. I'm a humble person because you're. Not. No No. No you don't like today. Today. Because of humidity I want I don't want to offend the good keeper. That's that's really true. I had a fracture in one of my I. So I, was seeing only. Wide. Does true that's true and. I thought he was he was better for another one to to school because I didn't know where to put the ball because I put on the left side right side whether you went through the third one. So I, let my friend kicking it. The way I stayed up and he missed it and I scored. So that's only what we call humility which long military. Hanging out and you didn't know which place. Can I have two reasons for in my life? I've two reasons. On ESPN essay. We'll be back tomorrow. Thank you as always. Maybe, I. All special. Tomorrow. He doesn't speak English. To.

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Episode #1366: The New Phil Hendrie Show

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Episode #1366: The New Phil Hendrie Show

"It's Phil Hendrie reminding you tonight, we have our backstage pass chanted starts at seven pm that is seven PM Pacific, ten o'clock in the east coast. If you're a member of our backstage pass family, join us and get your name on the big board. Yes. It is true we've canceled. Our Santa Anita promotional that. We did the drawing for that already. Reg, you one you win ridge in yet? You lose you win. And yet, you know, you don't win. It's like that poem, you know, in at night, I lay my head down. And I have a great fear falling into the poem general. No, I don't not at all what up quite that literate Phil anyway in my own land. I all powerful, but I have nothing talking about man, never mind. It's actually a poem. So. Yeah. It's also reminds me of a contest you did the context that I did you're talking about this kid than one of the. Yeah. Yeah. Anyway, Reggie win. All you have nothing that I was saying so well, isn't that a very encouraging the excuse me. Where's the water in the kitchen? Get me a glass glass of water. The oh, thank you is that an interesting thing thing. So join us tonight at seven o'clock for the backstage pass chat. And also, of course, tomorrow Saturday is our Saturday cinema day that'll be a lot of fun. You know, we'll have a movie and general shot, you know, who's going be the guest commentator not yet. But you know, we're still looking we're still looking for the movie in fact, but generally we have. Yeah. Getting like Steve dual your seven way out. You know, that's not a bad idea. I don't know Bobby may not like that. I was going to say Bobby is probably this Bobby will flip her lid. If she finds out that Steve is freelancing, if you'll pardon the expression, you know. You know? Don't give me that. Look, what are you talking about Margaret, you know, full well, but I'm talking about if Steve's freelancing. She means sex. What do you? So. Anyway, that's coming up. That's right field. Just make it look like Margaret's the freak of the week sitting there on the corner like an ogre with a knits ski cap and a dodger Shaw kit. So join us tonight seven o'clock to the backstage pass chat here in the world famous. Phil Emery show. Purpose filigree show for the Pacific in southern California. This is Caitlin Shaw. I'm like a gray. But Dickman, I'm Robert Leonard. And I feel Henry welcome to the program. We have Larry Grover with this is going to do a little review on President Trump in Hanoi man that where do you begin and end with that what it was a very interesting, drip. Larry is going to be Larry seems to be upbeat about it. Is he wasn't paying attention. Yeah. Never mind. And then we all we also have Bob green. He'll be joining us. Bob has a new Frazier food card. Well, this is like the Ralph's Cup car. Right. It's just like like any card you guys shop at Krogers and others led different supermarkets around the country, and they give you the discount card. Bob now has a Frazier food cart. I've always been curious and call me stupid. All right. What like I didn't think you guys that take advantage of that Phil we're just kidding around. You really think you're that stupid that you said call me stupid. All right. Call me irresponsible. Mike, just what are you going to say what I was gonna say is, you know, how they have those discount cards. They have it for Ralph's. Yes. Ralph's here in California. We have Ralph's we have Vons albertson's. I guess are these still around around now freeze your foods? Now. Frazier foods and other stores with these discount. I've always been curious because no matter where I go whether it's Frazier or their it's I haven't got into Frazier foods of the fridge food card yet. But if I go to vaughn's if I go to Ralph's, and they always ask you do you have the card. Do you have a rough club guard? We'll don't you. I have Vons club card. I don't have a Ralph's clubcard. I'll tell you. Why? Well, why don't you? I'm going to tell you why. Because you're not important you give the discounts. I know that. But hold on. That's for the very reason. Every time I go into these stores your von slept. No, I don't it's like a big pressure thing. Yeah. I don't talk about mystery. And there let's see like, we'll do you want one. No, go why not they get they get pushy about it. You know? And I I've asked people and nobody can only give me a clear answer. I'm sure there's there's a very simple explanation. I think obviously the store makes money the more you use the card. Well, how does this do they're giving you discounts general, I understand they're giving discounts. But they wouldn't be encouraging you to make them spend money unless they're making money. Sorry. I agree with the general see there. Yet. Look, I'm not going to say again point is these guys are saying, well, you go to go to Ralph's good any the stores. Where's your clubcard? Oh, I have I left. Well here. Let me tell us. They will give you the discount whether you want it or not or whether you have the card or not. So the question is how is the store benefiting from this? I think it's the more people that use it, you know, as probably going to somebody with volume. What would it be volume, man? What does that got to do with anything? So the more people get these disc, they must be marking up the the I their marketing their products of the Lao that is accusing them of something that could very well be illegal not illegal. It's not illegal Margaret to raise the price on something. But it certainly had you know, bears looking into whether some bayton switch is going on. I don't think there's anything like that going on. Otherwise, somebody would have said something about it. I'm just really curious. It's one thing to say, do you have your club card? Do you have your Frazier food car? Do you have your, you know, it's one thing to say that it's another thing to say, oh, you don't do you want? One. No, well, here let me just give you the discount in here. Take this home and fill it out, and where's your car giving you it's just like, Ben, you know, it. It's just a little too pushy for me, and I'm trying to figure this thing out. Now, they do that involvement. Ralph's rouse is the same thing. Ralph's is a little less Ralph's will say get a rough Cup card. Nope. No rows cluber club. It's called wral is color Ralph's club. Von slumming. They're all clubs is Bob's. What's loves? It's just the phrase. It may be the Frazier food club card or the Frazier club. Yeah. What are you looking at? I don't know when you say Frazier club it. So you know, what Margaret's is is a little touchy. Don't talk about it. We have no Bob funny. Befuddling? He should we call. He said it was the Frazier club. And then he had a foot. What he s he was going to call it. The the Frazier club foot, and I said to him you really wanna burn in. Hell don't you? I mean, it's not just the concept. You it's you can feel the flesh searing from you. And he looked at me like I just crawled from crawled from some sort of Retz NIST. And I said, what's your story? He said, what's yours? And I said you just said in that I'd forgotten what he'd said and I lived away because I just stepped in a pothole remind Margaret what are you trying to tell me he's saying is it Bob as a gag put out a gang card, the the Frazier club foot card. That's not even close to funny. That's what I was trying to tell this bunker, but he didn't get it. And like I said I forgot what I was talking about getting lived away. Yes. Because I'd stepped in one of those puddles over there the asphalt. Where were you at the Frazier, foods foods parking lot Frazier, boots Frazier foods parking lot? Yes. You know, something explaining stuff to you jokers takes forever. And i'm. Existed at the end of Margaret where Troy to on just exhausted. Wait a minute. We're going to get Bob green on in a moment. And like I said we also Larry Grover, and I think Frank is going to join us, right? No. I don't know. Frank west to tell Frank talk, tucked Abobo. Lurch? Moore last month. He said he tweeted about it. But he wanted to come up on the show and talk about the Ken berry. I Ken berry is the actor. He's real old school actor. Yes, these notes he was on was on me berry RFID. He wouldn't let of Disney movies Ken berry did a lot of song and dance. And apparently when Ken berry was in the army, he was stationed retirement in Atlanta. And his sergeant was none other than Leonard nimoy who encouraged Ken berry to go to Hollywood. Are you bowl prep Aviv? That's what Frank says he found out from Vogler. Lurch? Chapman bowling for. Who's who is? He you. Don't Bogaerts a producer. I thought you. I thought you guys had lunch. I had lunch. With Bobo alerts ver- fill every time. I say something you don't recognize you look at the camera as if to say to the audience get a load of the old Hort. I did not do that. Well, that's what it looks. Like fobel alerts resolute, he's that's a good. He's a producer writer actor slash composer. Unemployed. Yes. Thank you. All right. We'll be right back with what we're starting Bill. Let's get Frank out of the way. Okay. Love to hear that. We'll be right back world-famous. Fill Henry show the world famous. Phil Emery show brought to you by cork. There's fat men's hats alot, Dave, pork ner. I've been making hats for fat men since nineteen forty seven. I was only sixteen years old at the time. But I came up with the idea of helping the Fatman look good blend in and just sort of sweeten his way through a crowd. You know, we're all overweight from one time or another and we all wear hats. That are too small Orkneys makes the Fatman hat the Fatman hat copyrighted by partners. Won't you come into my store downtown Los Angeles twenty fifth and fifth in downtown Los Angeles fourteenth and figure on the flower street area partners hats for Fatman onesies ice cream made the old fashioned way. I'm not about to tell you what that is. Because there wasn't pasteurization back. Then. You know what I'm talking about? Yes. Wasi ice cream sweet petite need chocolate. Strawberry vanilla and Sassafras. What's his ice cream? Yes. Since nineteen thirteen or something like that. They've been making this ice cream. They only started selling it in nineteen sixty two. It had been sitting in large freezers since then, and I have to tell you also used it to cool a few stiffs. That was in the thirties. Well, nowadays families all over America are enjoying Wasi Zeiss cream. Hope you do too. I'm dick Wasi onesies ice cream in the gallon, the half gallon the pint or the mini. What's? Welcome back to the world famous. Still Henry show here from the L Pacifico in southern California. I'm market gray. We're gonna bring on Frank. My husband Frank graves in Terni, entertainment attorney, Frank was I don't know. Whether you're tweeting this out Frank. I'm not exactly sure have we got free. Choice out Rancho park. Oh, frank. Are you are you golfing night? Now just out with Tony Wilson. Ceelo to Margaret says. Hi. Now, we're just doing a skin game. Hey, Frank is Phil Henry how you doing buddy? You're on the air with us real good Bill. We wanted to talk to you about Bobo. Lurch? Moore, what's the story? What winning shot if you laugh, you do anything you'll lose what passes for you? Watch the language Frank. I'm sorry. I'm not gonna do anything. God damn UPC. Man, a Frank. What did you give up the game golf? Why? I'm just getting good at it. Take the card. Take the cartoon. Take the cut. Yeah. Bobo alert for kind of a day is it up. There. Sounds like a little windy that we got some wind coming. It's coming in over the brink at about thirty five thousand I don't know what thirty five thousand feet, but I can feel there's wind whistling through the Branka here. You're gonna hear beautiful day. I thirty five I don't know what I'm trying to say here. Let's talk about Bobo. Lurch? Mer Bobo, well, it isn't about Bobo. Lurch? Mice by Ken, Barry Bomo. Go says to me one day, you wanna laugh, and I said, okay and Bobo says you member can berry. Now, I remember Ken berry nearly sixties when she came to Hollywood, and she's lurching about and tap, dancing and sound stages in restaurants and everything and Ken berry, the went from being very honesty Mayberry r p and then later on f trope. Oh, yeah. He was a big hit on that after it was a huge hit. And and Ken berry was on that forest thing was Forrest. Tucker was on that. Bunch of narrative wells, anyway, so Ken ban that really makes peace ass. Excuse my language. Would you watch it Frank? I'm sorry. It was the the blonde. Yeah. Yeah. I forget the name of him. But boy was you God. What an asked. He had a Frank by Bobo says to make you wanna laugh I said, yeah, he says well, Ken berry came to Hollywood as a result of being in the army, and I said how that's not unusual a lot of guys mustered out on a west coast. And she says, no, no, no, it wasn't didn't have nothing to do with the Korean war. Anything had to do. It Perry was actually back east and was a song and dance van and she was like doing USO stuff. So so Ken berry was was working USO shows while he was in the service in the fifties. That's her. That's correct. Yeah. So. Oh, that's all well and good and she's doing and then she has stationed at Atlanta. And it turns out that her sergeant in Atlanta as you mentioned earlier. And I frankly don't know why am on talking about this since you ran your guts about it run my guts, Frank. Well, you gave the guy. No, I did not you can tell the story better. Okay. Well, that's a good recovery. So Ken berry comes through Atlanta. I dunno to report in and say, yes, sir. Something and Ken berry sergeant is no you say sergeant I like a squad sergeant there in in in army. There have been a platoon, Aaron and Atlanta. Okay. And Ken berry sergeant is none other as you said fill that is none other than linear raiding this year linear, Leonard nimoy, Niimi, Leonard nimoy. Oh, yeah. That's who can't. So she is God. Dammit. I forgot you're the one. You're the one that told me this originally, you don't you can't remember Leonard nimoy. I I'm reading I'm in the middle of a goddamn golf course. Okay. What's the language Frank? I hold on who shot mine. Your away. Away. I watched this one. Okay, Tuli watching learn watch and learn how a man does it. Thirty yards. But. Frank. We're gonna have to stop putting you on the air when you're when you're out golfing. Sorry. Take the court take the cartoon just. Thirty yards. I bled a three wood. And I'm thinking. Yeah. About a hundred maybe two hundred yards dropped that baby pin high. I take a beautiful back swing. I just sh no. I know the feeling Frank believe me, I know what it's like to be out there on the fairway and you got nothing, but sloth Salen and thirty yards. Ken berry goes to Atlanta and reports into the sergeant there loon lunatic. One of the most popular television. Actress of the sixties by understand that Margaret got them, and I almost managed okay? Yes. Never told me. I I don't tell you every little thing. I I almost managed to Leonard nimoy g came to me when she's in between Jack thinks you've done an untouchables, and she doesn't then she done another selling seven Gupta seventy seven sunset strip. And she doesn't an untouchable. And then she does say strip, you know, what would it be what he's saying? I'm saying to you fill that this Leonard nimoy, I she doesn't untouchables then she done seventy seven cents at stripped. So she was doing. I mean, he was going back and forth. Yes. And I said to her I said, how'd you like to get off that merry go round? And she said boy, wouldn't I and I said, well, there's this. There's a far out space age thing that this guy rod on berry, and I was joking. Because a lot of joked about gene Roddenberry nosed as we thought she was. Flipped out in free. She was we thought she was feared in three coats pain with her space with her whether whether spaceships in Iraq and ships, and so me. All land. Got. What what is less? Do you wanna die? I'm. Tooley suggesting you take lessons. I agree with him. Isn't that? Nice Margaret, we'll guess what? I don't what need to hear me. Don't bother guy when he's golfing. Then why are we interviewing him because this is the only free time ago? So make a long story short, gene. Right. That we called we called her gene Roddenberry because we just you know, we all she's got a ride on you know, the joke. Yes. Yes. Okay. So what about it? What about it is this? She went on to produce one of the most successful science fiction TV shows in history. Okay. And I wasn't there. I could have been managing Leonard nimoy or Nima. Whatever the hell is whatever the hell. Her name is. I didn't do it. I didn't do it. I know. So you you've got great regret. This is why you brought this up right? Yes. I didn't brag could give a good goddamn. But Ken berry and how can vary gun. Discover them sent a Hollywood I read this story. And I'm thinking Leonard Niimi, dammit. Get his name right because you almost managed even didn't. Yes. Bendel blocking Leonard Niimi me, Leonard Mimi, Leonard, m nimoy, no, I'll do it Leonard and new. You do it Frank. I'm trying to say this guy's name. Okay. No hold on. I got a mental block because I almost managed her. You mentioned if I've managed Leonard nimoy, I'm home, man. I would never had I've never had had had had work again, Leonard Leonard. What you just said his name a moment ago when you said you magic what I if I managed Leonard nimoy, you imagine if I manage we gotta get going. All right anyway. So yeah, gene Roddenberry, and and then next thing I and nimoy says will you manage me? And I said I can't take on the extra work because at that point. I had Susie Gladstone. And biff Collingsworth both of whom like Steph and went nowhere. So aren't I a genius? And no one's ever heard of them. Yeah. I know Margaret gonna say it again, no one's ever heard of them. Thanks. Meanwhile, nimoy got picked up by the about a secular agency. And she goes on the who by the suck of the management agency of the second people Pena in the gym, secular secularity succulent that said, gee. Something man. I'm so happy. I'm who I am. And I'm not you am, you know, what I'm doubly happy. That's the fact 'cause I'd much rather be me than you. Clinton argued about a minute. So what's the upshot on this thing? Sean on what the upshot on Leonard Niimi nimoy see now. Now, she's mocking may I don't think that's fair feel sorry. Frank. Nimoy went onto become a big star. And Ken berry washed out by nineteen seventy Ken berry with nothing more than a self fart. Just what's that smell? I think it's kid berry. You know? I'm just joking. So Frank thank you very much for that too. Interesting Hollywood side note while I'm not done. I've got about. Isn't that fascinating though, that Leonard nimoy that I know that Frank almost managed him. Well, like, he said, I would've changed his life. Well, Frank like most of us like most of us. I dare say. Took the the road, maybe more traveled or less. I don't know what it is. But didn't take the right road. All right. I think Franks done pretty good for himself under the same. Great Mr. grades done. Good. Thank you. But you're welcome. Kissing up not kissing up. I agree. I think Princeton really well. Yes. There's there's no question. But the guy could have been the manager of lint Leonard man, you can't say the word the word Leonard nimoy, what's with you guys because a him because great all right next. We have we have learned Grover next door. Bog green buggery? Bob. Green is coming up next, ladies and gentlemen, on the new Frazier food card. This ought to be interesting here on the world famous. Phil Henry show. Are you tired of sitting at home and just staring at the television of the four walls? Do you want to do something new in ripen Crispin wonderful with your life genus school for manicuring pedicure and hairstyling is opening next Monday in Newport Beach, California, and we'll be open only for one week taking a limited number of applicants genus. It is world renowned as a school to teach young ladies the finer arts, the beauty techniques. Everything you need to know to open up your own salon. Hello, I'm Margaret gray. And when I started out in this business, I was doing manicures pedicures and Harrah's. 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We're it's not really the grocery store business. Although you're right. We're in the grocery business, the grocery chain business. Okay. Because you've got a lot more than one store. And and you're right again, Phil when you say that we you know, we're we're giving into the old discount card. Visit look these are these are very very important part of the the grocery business are the discount cards are the savings cards. You mentioned around pump Cardi much of the von's card. We have the Frazier foods club card, and I heard you mentioned a very poorly thought out joke, and I wish. You hadn't I'm sorry. But it was it was something that Phil Phil thought that it would you know, he needed to be truthful to the audience now. So that the club foot card. But never mind don't say, let's just put that aside because that cost a lot of money that was something I had to I had to go before a council of of handicap and disabled people to. Now moving on moving onto the Frazier club to the Frazier foods club card. When you come into one of the things, you mentioned it Phil when I used to shop, for instance, I used to go out to other grocery stores to see how they did things when we first opened up Frazier foods, one of the first things I noticed was the Vence club card, and you would go through the line, and or the or the rows clubcard, generally, I was shopping at funds. And then this is before you open the store why why are we in the process of opening Frazier's foods? So I'm out, and I'm shopping I wanna see how things are done. And they say do you have your clubcard not say, no, what is that NSA? Well, here it is fill this out and you'll get discounts and savings. If you go in. If you go into like let you guys you may not know this. But just if I may of odd. Sorry, Bob, go ahead. Oh, you're gonna explain how it works. Let me do. It you go into the supermarkets folks and you'll see a product, and it may have in you know, Mark they'll and they say funds clubs savings XYZ. Right. So there's a certain amount cow excuse me. I'm not done. So there's a certain amount of money that you're going save probably gonna say you exactly what you're saying the certain amount of money. Okay. Just planning sure sort of out of money, you're gonna save using your slump card. Can you name a product fill that you save money on? Yes. Matter of fact, a bottle of a bottle of tequila a bottle of tequila or how about something that you know, you can save money, for instance, on coffee coffee. That's perfect pilot to kill that was the first thing that I got you. So yeah, you'll save money and Comey and what they'll do at the checkout stand. Then they'll see us here so much you save using your club clubcard. Now you use the ultimate done yet. Love. I got an interview. All right. Sorry. Visit they'll do a ten Phil wasn't finished yet. I wasn't even finished yet. All right. Rush. And then you, and then you and then you go to your car. Okay. I'm done. What was that? All these what I heard. You you gotta get up air. Yes. I am Bob alright failed. I'm trying to tell people about me and about by business. Let Phil conduct the interview. He knows what he's doing. I will. But I just heard you go, bro. So you didn't now you now you sound like you've been drinking tequila. Wait a minute the Frazier food club card. Let's talk about that. All right. Well, first of all I wanted to tell you I would go into the store after I learned what it was going to say, do you get your Frazier or do you have your card, and sometimes I forgot I'd say, no. And he said you want one just as you said and at and just like, you feel I was getting bothered by it, you know. And then, hey, do you get your club? No. I don't have my club card. No. I do not want to use your clubcard. No, I don't want. And they look at you like you just excuse me for saying this Martin any ladies listening, but they look at it like like he just pissed in their mouth. You know what I'm saying? And Bobby we do have people listening families. I apologize. But I'm trying to get. No. I'm just saying. Yeah. You can't can't do dirty thing. Okay. I won't do a dirty thing. Bob. Would you? Please be mindful. The fact we have kids and women. Well, what what what the double standard with women? Okay. We've got kids. All right. But that Alex women I could care less about. Thank you very much for that. Bob. You know, I'm kidding. So then you'd go through the line say Haiti yet, you know for the fifty eight time. No, no, no, no. Well, I started experiencing exactly what you experience and pretty soon. They see you come in. And they don't even bother you. But they give a real surly looked like, you know, you aren't one of us. So I decided to get the the Frazier food club card into our store because I want to find out what are they excited about? Okay. How much money is the store making with these club these cards these discount exactly 'cause they gotta be making some kind of money because they're encouraging the checkers they're encouraging everybody who works in the store Haiti of your club card. You have a club card. Wh why would they do that? Unless they're getting a mate, you know, getting a benefit. Toys. Let's do the Frazier food club card, and I gave people he's cards, and then we marked down the prices if you use this club card, you'll get you know, a savings. I waited a month, and I got the receipts the gross receipts for that month. And our business was down something like twenty three percent. And I'm going what in the name of God. We'll wait a minute. Wait a minute. No. This is this is the clubcard. Wait. Wait. Wait. Hold on. If all you did was marked down the price on stuff. Of course. You're gonna lose money. Yes. Bob. Yes. What what are you talking about me? And he's not what it's about. It's yes. It's about that. But there's obviously more to it. Well, so when I started to do, and I was mimicking the Barnes people. They people can't get your freezer food cart. No. Well, here here's one. I don't want it. Well, yes, you do. And I would take it and stick in the guy's pocket. Some people would take it and throw it across the street. It got very very contentious. But I was using the von's club bottle. They don't do that advance. Oh, okay. You're the guy for weeks bellyaching about how Vons couldn't get off your back for love or money about that Vence clubcard wanting to shove it up your just about shoved right up your his name. But you said you showed up your rectum. Wow. Phil, you know, oh, I never said any anything of the sort Bob if you're gonna mimic thing behavior, but you don't really know what the cards about us. Of course, you're gonna lose money is. I said here take it take it. I I did everything they do at Vons at Ralph's. Have you got your club with your club card? No. I don't hear you. Here's what I don't want it. Well, you're gonna take it whether you like it or not and it got ugly. It got very ugly. They don't do that at Vence. You you told me before one of the that. It's just about like that aggressive. All right. So the next month gross receipts were down another twenty three percent. Pretty three percent. You losing money. Oh, get a little of the big brain on unwise that. Because you you Lord the prices on stuff you're supposed to lower the prices on stuff when you have the Frazier food club card, right, Bob. But obviously, that's not all there is to it. Because if all you're doing this lowering money or lowering prices, you're not gonna make money. I understand that. But there's gotta be something about it. That helps you make. Why would why would do it because once is obviously making money with that card and Ralph's, but there is some trick to the game that you haven't learned. Oh, a trip to the game. I haven't in the grocery business for thirty five years. What do I know how to make that that clubcard workman? Obviously, they're aggressive with that club card because it is making the money, and they want everybody to have one and they won't take. No for an answer. And you start to think Jesus, you know, I'd better take a club card. I better use it better. Get my savings. I believe personally, they're marking everything up. Okay. You think you're getting savings, and you're not you're actually just saving off of the markup. So. Had again, a great. Are you telling me you don't understand the idea of how to raise prices, and then give people a sale item? Every time. We have say saline at Frazier foods. We it's a saline them off the original retail price. Will you couldn't possibly be making money who said I made money? Well, no, wait a minute, man. I make money I'm just kidding around. But I'm thinking, I don't make as much as these big boys. Not because we're a smaller chain, but because we're not jacking up. So that's what you're saying. Jack the price up. Yeah. You're not jacking the price up the way they do. And then they get the don't tell me your cat took a crap in the rug brand took a legal. No, you're not jacking the price up enough. But you have to get the price up. Well, we've got everything else down which is really great don't we Jack the price up, and what we're supposed to do is what you Jack the price way up over the retail. Then you give people savings off of that. But not so much that you lower the price below your original retail, and you make your money that way. Oh, yeah. Kennett then he took me, Bob. You figure it out. Let me tell you something the freight your foods club card, which I'm very very proud that we have one, and I'm forcing people to take it. Yeah. Now, you have a reason to force them to take it. So I raise the price. That's that's what I think. I don't know yet. None of us here are retailed peg, and we're not we don't own stores right thing. I do and I'm gonna tell you something right now. I'll figure this out. Another reason why. Dean aggressive and everything I'm being I'm telling him here. Take it Frazier food club card, and they're saying, no, no, no, I should take it take it. And it's like I hate to like a lot of those. Anyway, like some prison movie, your take it you're gonna take it and love it, you gonna take what I give you. And that's what you hear throughout the store, and it's bugging people are coming over and go to what the hell is. 'cause the PA was on one day. And you'd hear me saying take it take you that kind of thing. Shit. I swear to while mighty bub green. And that guy I never know. Whether he's kidding or serious. Oh, he's serious. Believe me. But I that's a rare instance where he admits just how dumb he is or or we're dumb della not dumb. And that's that's kind of what it is. I think that's just dishonest man, you know, raising the price only to give you savings off of the of the jacked up price offer for the the heightened price. And then when they give you the savings, you still paying more. Yeah. You're paying more than the original retail with Richard. I don't know, man. But I got to get into a commercial break. Now, we got coming up next, folks. Larry Grover on Donald Trump in Hanoi coming up world-famous fill in ratio. Hello. This is great for the backstage past the world famous. Phil Emery show. It is an entree. It is available cruise ship for the genius. The magic is the film. Reach out him. God his hand get yourself, a BS pain. If can then you have he he. SP to move. Oh. Oh of BSP. Yes. Get a BSP with your ESP. What? Say you. Back to world famous fill in ratio, just ignore this music, famous filming reshow creeps, you out doesn't general. Does you world-famous filigree show the Pacific in southern California, and Larry groomer who is over there? Dispose restaurant in Culver city with his mother this evening, Larry we wanna talk to you about President Trump's trip to Vietnam and to meet Kim Jong UN what are your impressions? We're getting seated timing couldn't be better general, and and everybody's here. Larry how you doing? Hi, everybody. Labs up Larry nut berry. He said, Larry I thought I heard very so that's Larry. Okay. So thank you can I copy, and I have a water, please a waters. Yeah. He'll fill. Yeah. President Trump went over to Asia. Why were they handle? I I I don't consider that to be neutral ground. I think it's more to the keeping the liking of Kim Jong UN. But okay, let's let's score that one for him. Okay. Just put Mark that on the wall. You're not do that. Because they I'm gonna have my pudding in the moment. And I don't wanna have the memory of you going e it's putting married you understand. Okay, mother. I'm on the air right now. He grabs the phone there. I'm sad. So. Ahead. I feel it. It was really a home field for what's his name Kim Jong. And I don't think it was a home field for the president. And as a result. I think you know, he kind of took that rug out from underneath the president the other thing that I that. I really disturbs me about the entire meeting is Kim Jong UN is about five foot. Two is a blue not is a blue Pistole always get championing about five foot three and are two I could be and he's a row. He's very he's a fat round guy. And he's got a haircut. I the thing that bothers me. Here's a guy with a haircut like he's getting ready for electroshock. And I mean that sincerely that is insulting. Why would you say that? Because that's what it looks like he's wearing one of the pajamas suits. You know, the drill. Trump is six foot four he's got on a, you know, a very expensive five six thousand dollars suit and harassed been combed. You know, the the way that he comes in. I don't know how but. But it looks good. And and now, but he's gotta sit there and take no end of garbage from this guy in pajamas. These are the things that bother me as an American. These are the things that drought by the so-called Trump base one time about the base. That's what bothers us that the president's gotta go over to Hanoi, the capital of a country, and general you should feel. You know, a lot of great Americans. Let's bring up the Vietnam war wanna fight the war again. Okay. All right. So he goes over to Hanoi the cut the US has really great relations with the now. Yeah. That I don't I don't understand that at all democratic never mind. Yeah. A lot of that's the hey, there, you go kill that mother. Getting a lot to do with making relations good between them and Vietnam. And but a lot of Republicans getting to you know, like president whose president cut nut cont. President Trump even had any new never mind never mind, folks. Oh my God. I'm sorry. So Larry new saying the president also six foot four of them had to kowtow to this little short guy in pajamas. Yeah. That's the part that I think burns every member of the base, and you know, it's important for Trump. There's a lot that can happen. But if he loses the base, he's in big trouble. If he loses the base. Well, he he won't have any votes. If he keeps the base he's got about thirty percent. Well, okay. You know? About thirty nine forty forty one percent. Yeah. That's it's still like forty one percent. The point is he's got to keep the in doesn't keep the base happy. When a lot of us get together, and I get together with a lot of members of the Trump as we sit down as a copy shop down here on on Washington that we go to we're here in Mali, which well traffic area of Trump Trump base. And I'll say, you know, what the hell is going on is he paying attention to us and a lot of us. Sometimes he's not. And so now, he's in Hanoi. And he's giving any he's giving it up to a guy in pajamas with his haircut. Like, if you had a lobotomy, how would you cut your hair, I'll tell you how take a look at Kim Jong UN and yet President Trump has got to sit there and patiently listen to this guy. I don't know, man. That's been the way it road that Trump roles these days. Oh is that how he rolls? We're talking to Larry Grover from Culver city about the visited president. To hanoi. And obviously there was no deal done. No deal done. And I wish he would have at least said there was a deal done to the last time. He said there was a deal done last night. He said there there's no more new and everybody was happy. There's one problem that it wasn't true. Well. Let me ask you something, man. Why is it? Okay. With the base that Trump lies. It's not. Okay. What what we like about? The fact that Trump lies is because throws everybody off it messes up the status quo. In other words, you what the country not to work. Right. It's not bad. We don't want the country to work, right? If it's gonna be run by a lot of these liberals. Yeah. A lot of liberals, and and you know, and dark skinned people. Now, that's wrong. Ville no it is in man because that's exactly what it's about. It's a that just given up the liberals given to dark skinned people out merica. No, you're when it said, I think you said it right America was founded and the were black people. And there were Indians are a lot of different people. But no white man, and I'm not a racist. Okay. So don't even paint me that way. But like you said the white man he got the signer on it. Okay. And the white. Nobody's white, man. Nobody said enough of the white, man. Now, what the white bands not signing off on it. No, not not anymore. Boy makes me feel like I'm a racist. You talking about how the white man sayings. It mother racing. Get some more pudding and went the tapioca. Okay. No vanilla. I don't eat that pays naked came out as. So I that's the thing. And so the reason why we like it. When Trump lies is. We know that America's getting darker, and we we just wanna miss it up. That's what I thought. That's what I thought. Okay. But we doesn't mean we don't love the country. Does you guys you accept Trump's lying because you like how that thousand things up you like how it actually makes the country worse because of the country can't be run by all these old school euro Americans. They don't want it to work right at all. That is wrong wrong wrong. We want the country to work, right, Usov meadows, and he had the black lady there. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I did black lady, man. Just like Trump said his African American. Yeah. African american. No, it wasn't like bad at all whatever. But you got to just fourteen day, you sounded exactly like my fourteen year old. Then it sounded exactly Kimberly. Give you on the air. Yes. Mother and say, I'm saying said. I Larry what what are you gonna wait a minute. So President Trump, you know, you're making this about the base. Yes, we're important. And yes, Trump better keep us happy. And that means we don't care if he lies. We don't. We don't care if he has extramarital affairs. Although that's wrong. Yes. It's wrong. But who cares as long as he's in power? And he keeps these. Keeps all the Mexicans out there. That's that's the nutshell, man. Yeah. Larry, why don't you admit the fact that he really is based in a racial unanmous? I will never admit never admitted. Even if it's true, I will never admit. No it is not about race about. It's about illegals. Yeah. I know it's about illegals in any way that you can take somebody with the darker skin and turn them into some kind of a criminal. Whether it's a guy that you know is using your pool. Whether it's somebody's coming over the border illegally being using the pool. How many how many of these videos that we've seen of white people say, hey, there's a black guy here there? They don't live in the complex cops on somebody to call the cups. A little girl would lemonade color those people having a barbecue. Got to do with illegal immigration. Exactly. It's got nothing to do with it. What it does have something to do with the fact that all these dark skinned people are invading all these areas that were traditionally for light skinned people. Okay. Larry Arnn, Bill do a hit and run. And then hang you. Don't realize the conservatives occurring county are listening tonight because I am about ready to retake positions. Chairman. I think you've acquitted yourself very well. Yeah. You're right. I have I love it. When you start talking all that shit. I'm I'm sorry. Hi, larry. So Donald Trump comes home without a deal having having to talk to some guy in his pajamas. Who's a foot shorter than him? How much worse can get. It's not that bad. Basically, he told Cami said we'll lift the sanctions when you stop the nukes and Kim said, we'll stop the notes when you lift the sanctions and President Trump said, okay, that's pajama boy, and he got up, and he any strolled away and very powerful way. That's well, I'll tell you what are you talking about man? That's not what I call a dealmaker that some guy that's a five year old getting up saying, I'm done. I agree with that. Larry, you don't see that to you. Okay. Is this the liberal? I forgot this is liberal time on the Phil Hendrie show. There's too many of us and you can too many liberals feeding Honey. I listen, Larry Larry's Larry stack pork sandwich. Just got here. Wouldn't tell people what I eat. He gotta stack pork sandwich. He got a slab of ribs on the side. What is that Larry to corns to corns on the cubs corn on the cobs? I mean, corns Macab he got to corn on the cob. And no doubt the cobble beyond. I'm just kidding. Thanks. A lot mother to bind. 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Apples New M1 Macs, iPhone 12 Pro Max Camera and Leather Cases

AppleInsider Podcast

47:28 min | 5 months ago

Apples New M1 Macs, iPhone 12 Pro Max Camera and Leather Cases

"Hello and welcome to the apple. Insider podcast is your host. Stephen robles joining me this week but frank west. Who's be getting his pro. Max as you hear this recording most likely hey doing was just trying to think about the difference between saying max versus max confusion already before we started. The show is that we can talk about the max. And then we're going to talk about the max and asset his exactly phonetically. The same was the hominem. Yes that's right. Sounds the same thing. Apple had a little earlier this week. It was notably actually just about the one thing the m one chip in the max day launching. We did not see any apple. Tv airpods studio airtags nothing. It was all about the. Max only surprised by that at all a little bit. I was expecting at least an accessory of some kind. Just something but mac only event forty-five minutes right up on the dot. It's kind of wild. It was i mean it was very short. I mean when they were ending kinda no one coming to the end. Because you see tim cook back up there and he starts talking about how amazing things are. Is there going to be anything. Nope nothing new nothing else. You know that was interesting. I'm curious if we won't see a random press release though in the next week or two. I feel like those airpods studio. Maybe even airtags could do a press release. That's going to happen. Or maybe i don't think so. I mean those two devices are definitely holiday gifts. The airtags being a good stocking stuffer the studios starting at probably four hundred. Five hundred dollars are a big gift item. If they announced it now or in the next two weeks we wouldn't see it on sale until mid december and you'd be out there trying to bite on christmas eve. It's it's not really going to happen. And apple likes hitting their holiday seasons. I'm guessing that again. It just was a little too little too late and we'll see it in march if if at all because i mean march. What does that chinese new year. Timeframe can get a little bit of a boost from other things going on in the world but right now it's just not happening or i will. Let's talk about the event one more thing. They announced their new chip. And then three. Max we do the recap episode so i won't belabor all the details but we did discover some new things since the event if you want to listen to the recap episode the previous one right here in the feed. It was nine minutes so if you want to hear the forty something minute presentation down to nine and just get all the announcements. You can do that so the first thing they talk about the m one chip and so we knew there was going to be some kind of silicone enough valley. They're going to call it a fourteen something or if there's going to be a different letter and so now we've added the m one ship to their line of silicon have a series the s series and the watches. They got the use series in the ultra wideband stuff. So now's the m one. This is their mac specific. Chip it is an eight core. Cpu for high efficiency for performance cores. Eight core gpu. Although notably the macbook air has a seven core gpu version which. We'll get to in a second and it also has a neural engine apple touted this chip as being just crazy powerful. There's some interesting charts. I don't know if you saw those west. Where you kind of have the performance of the m one chip in up to two times faster than normal pcs laptops but i thought it was interesting to 'em one line ends sooner than the p. c. One cares if that's clock speed thing just doesn't have a higher ceiling the davig into that. Did you gather something from those charts. I didn't pay too much attention to that. But i i'm guessing just With the same limitations that we're seeing between the two different macbooks thermal limitations were probably hitting peak load and then stopping whereas intel chips. Probably try to catch themselves on fire before they quit so right exactly now. Some of the geekbench scores have actually come out and it's open lincoln. Show notes to article on apple insider. But a mac book air with an m one chip so one of the new macbook airs. M one chip supposedly has a single core score of sixteen eighty seven and the multi-core score of seventy four thirty three so seven thousand four hundred thirty three. Now if you compare those m one numbers to the i nine in the macbook pro sixteen inch the macro sixteen inches one thousand ninety five single core and sixty eight sixty nine multi-core so it is supposedly the m one actually benches faster than the i nine that you can get in the sixteen inch macbook pro now. I was wondering if these new max. We're gonna tell me personally. Because actually have that sixteen inch macbook pro. With the. I nine and i thought surely the i nine will be close if not still be ahead of the them one. But according to these geekbench scores the m one is actually faster than that. I nine now. Do you think that actually will equate to real world faster render times and final cut or bounces in logic. I don't know how much we want to get into this. But i mean this is geekbench. It's benchmarking tool that. Basically runs the processor through its paces as quickly as possible to generate a generic score the end and they only just optimize this for the apple silicon processor so there could even be bugs and stuff involved these scores. I wouldn't put it too much to real world. That's not to say that these amazing chips. Like i don't doubt that Pound for pound. These things probably performed better than most intel computers including the sixteen inch macbook pro but translate to real world. I mean what are we really seeing. Here i've been seeing a people on twitter youtube. Compare these things to iphone chips. I mean jonathan morrison or one of those people who Do a lot of these things Has been comparing the iphone. Twelve many to his thirty five hundred dollar i mac. And he's able to generate a four k. Hdr dolby vision video out of his iphone ten times faster than his thirty five hundred dollar amac so apple silicon with its acceleration and it's just optimization across the board for what it's doing obviously not perform anything that's got a lot of underlying software that it has to run through and translation and all that nonsense whereas apple can do a lot more at the chip level. So it's hard to say exactly. Yeah so what are the other things two different now in these apple. Silicon macs is the ram is integrated. So if you had gotten a discrete graphics card like we have a macbook pro. Sixteen inch like avenue. Amd radian graphics. My sixteen inch. You know. there's ram dedicated to the gpu. And then you also have the system. Ram thirty two gigs of ram for the system. And so there would be you know dedicated a separation of the ram here here. It's universal ram. Meaning that when you get the ram whether it's eight or sixteen gigs. On any of these new max that ram will be used for both gpu and cpu and the m one will just intelligently decide which one is for which and where that rain is going to. And interestingly you can only get a max of sixteen gigabytes of ram in any of these max the macbook pro thirteen inch the new one. Mac mini any of them and so again. I've had some people on twitter. Were saying well. You know the ram just like an ipad and iphone devices even though it's only four six gigs of ram those devices because of the apple architecture and the apple silicon. It's used much better effect. And so in these macs just because it maxes out at sixteen gigs of ram. Maybe that shouldn't bother as we're buying these computers on. What are your thoughts on the ram again. We're looking at a totally different system architecture. Here everything's going to be different than weird. People saw that sixteen gigs of ram and immediately started tweeting. I'm not buying this thing. There's no way. I could get anything done on sixteen gigs of ram. It's this is back to that old. What macbook pro came out with a maximum of sixteen and people were going crazy but it was the macro pros like when they i. It was one of the redesigns. You could only get sixteen. Gigs max. Yeah we're back to that but this time it's apples thing. i mean. just think about it right now like. I'm looking at my ipad here. I think has six gigs of ram attached to an eight twelvsies processor. Now imagine if this thing had a sixteen gigs of ram. More than double it internally. This device doesn't start obviously. I'm not running final cut but we had a completely different class of system here and apple obviously shows like a. it's the android argument oliver again. We look at android and windows and how they utilize their ram. And just how much goes to overhead of you know doing anything and you buy a samsung phone with thirty two gigs of ram in it. Now it's it's ridiculous. And i don't know where it's going this year right and those those phones are not going to be like. Noticeably are practically faster than iphone twelve. Right so it's not like more raven. Those phones are giving you some benefits. That isn't to say though. In the future you know when we see that sixteen inch macbook pro or whatever apple decides to come out with. We'll see that new. Whatever next gen processor m two or m one x or whatever right with thirty two gigs of ram and it just outclass anything on the market. We'll see yeah. And i'm curious when they have those higher in max. You know what configuration you can get with these. Max was i was debating. We'll talk about it last week and so right now. You know your two options. Are you have ram eight or sixteen and s d sized to fifty-six up to two terabytes on all three of these max. The new medicare the new mac mini and the thirteen inch macbook pro. And so that's the only configuration you get and so what i'm curious about is once they start moving apple silicon to those higher end machines like behind mak sixteen inch macbook pro. Maybe even mac pro one day cures of they will actually be a choice of processor like you do now. You can get an intel. I five i seven. Or even i nine or if will be like a m one and one x and y z kind of chip choice. Which doesn't seem to jive with how apple might work it. But i don't know what are your thoughts on that something. One of our writers Mikey or editors. I think mikey campbell. He works night shift. He commented until has always been about megahertz performance clocks and gigahertz performance clocks and whatnot so feeds and speeds. So when you're looking at buying you will pay attention to the ram and stuff but when you're looking at those intel processes you're looking at clock speed. How fast can it go when it's operating normally. What's what's overclock clock speed. What can it reach. And i don't think apple wants to talk about any of that at all. I mean we can clock these chips and see how fast they go. I didn't see the Gigahertz benchmark on this one was supposedly three point two three point. See that yeah. Three point three gigahertz on the them one which you know. That's the first apple silicon chip to ever go above three gigahertz impressive but at the same time. Does it really translate to what we're doing on these computers as apps get optimized. Four apple silicon. We're i think we're gonna see more emphasis on stuff like the neural processor and how many processes per second that can handle. Because that thing i think is behind a lot of this accelerated workflow kind of stuff. Yeah so surly. This chip is going to be super powerful. And but let's talk about some of the limitations. There seems to be on some of these new max and so first off he was the macbook air. Really here we have no fan. That's kind of the biggest hardware difference between previous macbook air. Obviously the apple silicon but with new care. It's a fan less version which is pretty attractive. You know. I think that is very cool. We still have seven. Twenty p facetime camera. No face idea was introduced. Nothing like that but the ports are also a little confusing on all these devices apple saying that. They are thunderbolt usb four ports but that does not mean they are thunderbolt. Four like these are thunderball three. Usb four ports on all these new. Mac does that sound right. Yeah it's a weird spec because usb fours new. i don't think you can even buy a peripheral that runs. Yes before yet. But it's basically a container that the speeds thunderbolt without actual using thunderball. It's just a future proofed port for that spec but thunderbolt three iran's exactly the same as any other poor on any other existing mac today right talking displays and these new max from what i've seen these thunderbolt three ports power like one display so on the macbook air and the macbook pro the new thirteen inch models with the m one chip. You can plug in one. Display the mac mini with the m one. You can plug in a display in one of those thunderbolt ports and you can get a second display with the hdmi port so you can get a maximum of two displays. But it's a little while that you can only get one display on that air and the new macbook pro but also those. Two computers only have two ports. You can't get a thirteen inch. Macbook pro with four ports with the m one chip right. It's definitely weird limitation. I'm not sure where it lies. It could be in the one chip itself. It could be in. How apple's handling the controllers for the thunderbolt ports where they have to license this stuff there could be some sort of fees involved. The best guesses. Apples has to limit for the m one chip. I mean you can. You can still connect to thunderbolt display. You can connect one of those ultra fines and still use that as a doc slash display and have everything run through the single port which is fine but what you can't do is daisy chain. You have a like the previous macbook pro. I believe you could connect a four k monitor via thunderbolt and then connect that monitor to another one and then have to external monitors so no matter how low resolution even if it's multiple ten eighty p displays. You can't do it for whatever reason. Yes oh that's interesting. I know andrew l. emailed me a bunch of the people tweeted saying that was unfortunate in addition to the display limitation there. They seem to have removed the possibility of using an external. Gpu like the black magic. Agp you or others with the thunderbolt ports so it seems like you cannot use any gp which i guess. Architecture wise makes a little bit of sense but i mean that's unfortunate that you can't have one of those into a macro anymore. The has everything to do with apples discreet. Gpu they've built in. I don't think it's gonna work with anybody. And i don't think apple's are gonna come out with their own external. Gps they're just going to tell people you're fine with what you have Built by the more expensive mac in the future. If you need it yeah exactly so. Those are just interesting caveats. Now that these newports have this episode is brought to you by express. Vpn let me ask you something. If someone out there kept a log of every single thing you did every minute of the day. That would be pretty creepy right well. What if i told you. That's exactly what happens every time you go online whether it's your internet provider like at and t. Comcast or spectrum. 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This is actually one of the more interesting to me. So you can get the new. Mac mini for one hundred dollars less than the previous models. Many that six ninety nine you can't upgrade up to two terabytes of ssd in the sixteen gig. Ram and. I don't know if you saw this a gif on twitter. I think it was a basic apple. Guy tweeted this. And i'll put a lincoln shown to the gif but actually so the insides of the new mac mini running the one chip and the old mac mini running into l. And the innards are much less like this is a lot less there because the logic board is so much smaller. It's just an iphone connected to a battery at this point. Right after the mac mini. There's no batteries. Those just like an iphone and there's a fan in there and that's it you know so really attractive actually and looks pretty cool and i imagine that leaves more room for batteries and some of those portables really curious what the battery life will be on whatever sixteen inch or larger laptop they launched with the m one because it just seemed like a ton of space for battery. The mac minis interesting here because for six ninety nine. You can get a desktop computer that can run two monitors that can process software at the same way as a what thirty five hundred dollar macbook. Pro it's kinda crazy. Yeah it's what my question is you know. I was almost planning on getting something during the announcement. Because i was just really excited about these chips for me. I feel like. I need to see real world use cases as far as speed how it runs final cut and all that stuff so i didn't jump the gun. I'm going to wait and see what people say about. Its but obviously i was interested. More in the portables. You got the thirteen inch. Macbook air thirteen inch macbook pro. I don't know the answer to this. But i'll see if you do as far as capability. What is the main difference between the macbook pro and the air aside from the body. form factor. The only difference seems to be that the air does not have a fan. And the mac book pro does has some kind of cooling system so i assume that means the macbook pro be able to push the m one a little more because it has a cooling system and that seems like it. Because it's both sixteen. Gigs max. Ram both too terrified max. Ssd both only have two ports. Those thunderbolt years before ports. So am i wrong. Is that the only difference plus touch bar. Everyone always forgets to touch bar the touch bar. I don't know if that's a feature right. I think the the left it on there because they're using the same case as the thirteen inch but right. I think if i remember this correctly it's because it has that fan. It can run longer at peak speeds. So you're going to get the same performance out of both in quick fat like operations. But if you're chugging out a two hour video from final cut you're probably going to see longer and faster performance out of that. Thirteen inch macbook pro. So that's where the pro name comes in anything. That's going to be more intensive than regular editing or quick quick projects you're going to need that macbook pro for longer sustained actions. Now we'll have to see this and testing but that's probably the only real benefit you're going to have out of having that fan better cooling right so then we come to who should buy. Or which one should you buy. If you're in the market for a new laptop now keep in mind. For the mac mini and mac book fro thirteen inch the intel versions are still available for sale. New on apple's website so if you need a macbook pro that's thirteen inches but has four thunderbolt ports. You can actually get that still on apple's website with the intel chip and all that and if you wanna mac mini with an intel chip you can actually still get that as well. The macbook air is really the only computer in apple's lineup. Where there is no intel version. You can buy new directly on the site and so for me my recommend recommendation. My recommendation is if you are any kind of pro sumer or pro user and you were trying to get a powerhouse. Mac for some use case i would say hold up you know. Wait for twenty twenty one. Obviously we're gonna see more max coming out. Tim cook said that. This transition is going to be a two year transition so not going to be waiting forever. This is not like mac pro territory. We gotta wait five years for a new model. You know we're gonna see shirley. I mac the sixteen inch macbook pro and maybe even some pro level computer like an mac pro with a apple silicon so any kind of pro use case. I feel like i would wait and see what's going to be coming out. But if you were in the market for a mac book air or a low end. Mac laptop Just you know maybe already have a desktop mac. Maybe you have a powerful computer. You wanna just something for portability. I think there's new macbook. Air is probably the most tempting of the bunch. A especially if you're on the market for a portable and if you have some kind of student is going to be you know university or some use case for students. Maybe it's just you know school at home but you need to upgrade a home laptop again. I think this macbook air is probably the most attractive one you know. Get at least five terabyte. Ssd but i think it's a great option. We think west. Well yeah if you've waited this long for apple silicon to be in the mac. You've got a little bit longer to wait. I mean if if something's broken home or if your kids starting school next week yeah jump on that macbook air right now. Very few people. I think would need to jump up to the pro unless you just really like the touch bar but that that macbook air is the go-to device right now or the mac many of course if you're sitting at a desk or you know doing a lot of at home worker at home schoolwork that desktops is going to be really good and long lasting for a while. But i think what's more interesting from. This event is what's around the corner. I mean come come march and fall of next year. We're going to see new ipad pros running toe fourteen tear chipsets. We're gonna be seeing the i mac with a new redesign. That's pretty much guaranteed at this point. Mean if they don't redesigned. The i mac with apple silicon. They're never going to redesign it. So because it's been what two thousand seven since the last time we saw actual change to the design right. Yeah it's been a while. I'm nine mac. Pro a super long in the tooth to i'm pro. That's that's the question. Here is the pro models. The mac pro in the mac pro for the desktops. What is apple going to do here. Because the mac pro was sold with modular. Already in mind i mean. Are we going to see apple. Sell amac pro with an iphone chip in it. Well practically franzen purposes. I the m one or into acts or whatever then a bunch of slots sticks and more mac minis in there to chain them together. I mean where where's the modular aspect coming in. I don't see apple playing nice with these other companies. But won't they have to if they're going to maintain module already or are we going to see apple make a bunch of their own parts and sell them at a premium which won't make pros happy. I don't see that being very fun for the market. But that's that's a far away problem. That's probably the last mac. We're going to see in this turnover but still interesting to think about what is going to happen between now and then yeah for sure. It's an exciting time for sure. Secures what's going to happen but there are a ton of links to all the stuff that came out this week. All the news about the new m one chips and apple silicon so check out all those links in the show notes and let us know what you think did you grab one of these new macs with 'em one lewis tweet at us and let us know now. Unfortunately i would love to have you talk about your new iphone. Pro max not mac. The ex but Should be arriving as listeners. Here this episode right probably tomorrow. I've had a whole debacle with my older process. It's all my fault to one over at reisen. I can get into that real quick. Anyone on here uses privacy cards He'd the story. So so first of all i had messed up. I've moved since last. Motored an iphone but of course i didn't think about it place my order right away. Put it in the system bam. It's on its way second after they went live on verizon's website but guess what they're getting shipped to virginia beach. Well of course. I live in tennessee. Now so i had to cancel that order and reorder it within about five minutes orders going live. Congratulations your iphones. Arriving unreleased a great. Your payment has been denied. Why because the privacy card used on the rise in account was used for verizon files not for isan wireless so it saw as a different vendor and denied the charge. I spent a bunch of time on the phone with verizon customer service and they said whatever's happening here. We tried getting you to reply card. I couldn't no matter how many times i did. It would just reset so they cancelled that order and put in a third one so my resin account order page looks crazy right now but i have a third order for iphone. Twelve pro max. Coming december four. Th now i was just really angry like no no no. Don't worry we're going to put you up in the system. You obviously ordered it and times we're going to retain your place in line and put it back. Just ignore that ship date so as of right now it says. Aa ups has generated your shipment tag. And it's for next day air. So i should either see it tomorrow or saturday which is exciting. Okay curious to hear about your experience with it. There were lots of reviews that came out obviously about the pro. Max and the twelve mini. The verge of the review joined a starting on wall street journal. Austin man is the photographer that i mentioned last time you know he does. Those annual iphone camera reviews as he took the pro. Max out and definitely review that. Because you know the whole big news was the new camera system there you know forty percent larger sensor the sensor stabilization as opposed to the optical lens stabilization so very curious real world scenarios westwood. How you fair with it. It does seem to be improvement especially in low light especially in low light portrait shots and things like that and so we'll see when it comes out and also the many other of us out there and that thing looks small and people's hands. I gotta say but you know that's kind of an attractive size for a lot of people check out. Those reviews. see the mini. If you've got a mini are max. Be sure to tweet us to. We'd love to hear. I wanted to talk a little bit about the camera system. If we have a second yeah please. This stuff's really interesting to me. I've been a nerd about photography for a few years now First thing that came out in the first thing. I saw you tweet on. Twitter was thank god the cameras. Not that much better. I feel good about buying the iphone. Twelve pro now i think i think verbatim i was like i wanted my fomo. My fear of missing out to go down just a little. Bit and mk phd me. There that's all right right now and that's and it's fair. I watched his video and everything he said was fair. It's definitely worth noting that anyone who's in a well lit room isn't going to notice a difference. I mean you could take every iphone from the last five years. Shoot the same photo in a bright sunny day and it's going to be hard to see much difference between the images maybe sharpness. That's about it for sure. Move into darkness. That's when things get a little crazy. And i mean. I saw one example shot of i think this hd as well was the dog sitting in the room the dog with the candle thing. Who's i think that was austin. May that was austin me right right right. So yeah. That was my. That was the thing i saw and said that's what i want because i that right there i mean. Think about when you're most using your camera. Obviously the bright sunshiny days outside captured the dogs and the kids running in the yard. That's great but a lot of those especially lately you've been spending our time inside or dimly lit restaurants or eventually we might actually get to go out to a bar again and those locations that bigger sensor and stabilization coupled with light. Aren't everything on top of. It is going to make a huge difference for indoor lighting and for indoor photography so that that's the stuff that definitely compels me and again. I'm just definitely sold on the twelve. Pro max i i. I would be very disappointed in myself. If i got the regular sized pro for sure and i mean there's still a part of me that was like maybe i should just go with it. I just remember the last time. I had a plus phone had the seven plus right before the ten came out. And i love the plus. I was all all about the larger sizes and they want the ten came out. I did the tennis. I tried tennis. Max for a week and just something about that size and again this is just everybody's preference it hurts me to know that i don't have all the features that are possible to have this year as so it's not like i have zero. Foam is just lesson But it is definitely clear that in low light the pro. Max is going to do better. And the verges review. Put a link to it. You know neil patel took it out. He was taking portrait shots of like a stuffed monkey. Or whatever and that is when you can definitely see if you zoom in on like the hair or for that kind of stuff. There is definitely a noticeable improvement on detail and fuzzy not as fuzzy and so for that low light stuff. I sure and if you do any kind of pro sumer or just hobbyists camera type stuff. Typography absolutely the pro max is better like it is not a question of is a better or not. It is definitely better and especially in those low light deals now you can have a regular eleven or twelve to compare it to once you get it so all i have is my iphone. Eleven pro. my mom is very interested in the iphone. Twelve many so that could be a thing will be getting some point but okay. She's also blind as a bat. So i don't know if it's smaller streams for her and because if you increase the font size and you get like a word purse grohl you know if you get another text messages. Her facebook feed is going to be three words on the page. One thing about the size. I wanted to know is i. I did order. I think i mentioned last time. I ordered that backbone one controller that snaps around iphone. One of those game buys controllers but much more updated. Yeah this is cool. But i will note that their design took into account the curved edges of the iphone eleven. Show so the top side where the iphone sticks out is completely flat. Just sticks out of the top. But underneath where the iphone sets towards where the joysticks are as a curved edge to melt into the side of the controller's design. And i am very concerned that my gigantic iphone is going to hit that corner of that curved edge and not fit and so this controller grip. It's going to be very very close. Am i have to shave off some plastic. You're right exactly chip that away. Oh that's interesting. This episode is brought to you by clean my mac x. Clean my mac is an all in one cleaning and optimizing software utility for your mac. I love clean my ex. 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Pau dot com slash podcast. That's mac a w dot com slash. Podcast our thanks to mccaw for sponsoring this episode. I will say to. Are you getting a case with yours. No i'm going to be casteless for this phone. I got a couple of those wallets. I got one of the apple wallets and i got one of the knockoffs on amazon. Because i was impatient. Didn't want to wait till december for the apple one race. I'll be testing both of those. I just wanted to see how the third party ones would would fit. Peter mackinnon topped about the app wallet. Apparently he is a guy who kind of just like handcrafted his own wallets and sold them or whatever for a while and went over the details of just like the design and stuff and really really liked it. But what i liked about the video was talking about how he was able to use the wallet with the how it magnetically stuck on well enough that it wasn't scary because everyone who's talked about so far seemed afraid that just by having the wallet on the phone. They were going to lose their wallet. That it was just going randomly. Slide off the side and never to be seen again and He's he shook the phone around through it in the air and it was fine. It was snug on there. It obviously if you push on it with your fingers something it can slide off because you're gonna lose that magnetic connection but him showing like employing in and out of his pocket with little bit of train you went on a little bit crazy tangent of like. Just use your finger and train yourself. It's like. I don't think you need to go to that extent. But i don't think it's as bad as people were making it out to be so. I'm very interested to trout one of these wallet things as i did order one but i think mine's like set for december so it'll be a little delayed but yeah i'm looking at video now. It's pretty cool. So yeah look at the lincoln show notes for peter mckinnon's video. He does a lot of testing. He's doing some slow motion videos of putting the wallet in his back pocket and staying on their actually. Now that we've talked about the wallet. I also will mention case wise. The leather cases made by apple that usually launch every year with the iphone. They didn't come out when the twelve twelve pro were released. But if you got up to order either a homepod mini or iphone pro max. Twelve pro max of many last friday. You could actually get an apple leather case for all the different size phones and so i actually ordered the apple leather case for much wealth pro got the saddle. Brown one or two bad day came in monday so came in three days later. I think now. The times are slipping. But i will have to say vastly prefer apples leather case with mag safe to the silicon case with mag safe. You know the new twelve models because as a square edges in general feels a little chunkier than the eleven's again more of an optical illusion than it actually being thicker but the silicon ones has made it feel even larger and a leather case is much more streamlined. Love the feel doesn't add very much bulk and it's maxine built in apple's leather case. So if anybody was wondering if you like leather cases if you've liked apples leather cases in the past you'll really like the ones for the twelve twelve pro. Twelve pro max and what's interesting. Though apple actually shows little ring around the apple logo and some of their gallery photos for the leather case. I guess implying that if you save charge it all the time. It's going to develop a ring on the leather and so for you listener so you can know before you do it. I am solely charging with mag safe now with the letter case. Ever see how long it takes to develop that ring. And if it's pronounced what happens to it. So i will post updates regularly on twitter. I posted a picture of the white silver iphone in the brown case that i have now. It looks pretty good. I like to look at it for sure. But i'll let you know how to say ring katina's on the new letter case. If i had to get a case from my phone at all it would be leather. And i really like how leather wears down over time. Kind of telling its own story and having that mad magazine doesn't bother me a bit. I remember people kind of worried about it when apple first announced like i think there's a disclaimer somewhere on the website. Like the mac safe. Connector will wear and or something. But i think it's interesting to me especially that it's a ring around the apple logo. It kind of gives its own little. Look it's always going to be in the same spot. It's not like the rings gonna move around. So i think that's kind of cool. Yeah not gonna give me. Give me your thoughts on this because the verge actually had a video famously. A couple years ago. I'll put a link to charleston this but dealer bone like did a manual patina ing. So if you wanna patina look immediately you can kind of do it so it looks like it's an aged iphone case. I feel like that's cheating. I could be wrong as cheating. Okay yeah just like buying prewashed gene. Yes that. I don't know i look i went pitino's it's your story like you just said it's whatever where that shows up after months of using case it's your hand. It's your like how you use the phone. So the little cases like your story because it's patina that. I know that that sounds a little weird. I don't know. But that's what. I like it good nomads website. In any case that they sell they tell a love story about how beautiful your case is going to be after you vote and yeah i don't know i i'm definitely gonna fall for something like that. I love that. That's a cool thing you can tell a story with. You know slowly destroying the leather on your case. But i mean it's like i have a leather a couple of other watch bands that i have completely ruined time. But they look. They look really cool. You know got that y- exactly leather cowboy. Look almost at that point now. Some people even john gruber is talked about this but like if you go casteless whatever nicks and scratches you develop on. The iphone itself is also a way of telling a story. I don't know how i feel about that for my iphone pristine and this one's going be because i mean the stainless steel ring is so pronounced around these iphone pros so i feel like any knicks or scratches over time. Your i don't know if you're gonna fill it with your fingers or see it More visibly but i'm definitely a little bit more worried about this one now. You get a blue one pacific blue. Yeah i was gonna go graphite at the very last minute. I said never mind. I'm gonna get pacific blue. Because i got the blue ipad and it's such a subtle color that i figured if the phone similar as people say that subtle tone. I'm okay with that. I think that will work. Yeah well very cool. Well let us know listeners again. What color'd you get. What case you like the leather duprey patina your case like an animal. No just kidding if you do that we'd we love you too but let us know love to see a picture of that is also as we record. Macos big sur is actually being released publicly. Fortunately the release was a little late so we won't talk about it in this episode but be sure to tune in next week i have not run any big sur beta. So it'll be totally a new experience for me and i'll give you my raw thoughts about it on next week's episode. You've been running. Big sur on a mac mini right. Yeah i've been running this this whole beta cycle from the first step beta and i'll go ahead and tell you that i have no opinion other than the icons are square. I i turn on. The mac mini a couple times a month to play unintended intended. Sixty four emulator. i. I work from an ipad. It's not something. I'm looking at very often so i do like the new design on some people were kind of against it but again coming from mainly an ipad as user. I like the familiar familiarity of it and just like with. I think we forgot to mention like the max moving to more ipad. Things like the keyboard getting ipad like keys in such like that right. Do not disturb and stuff like that. The os itself also getting some of those visual cues is kind of nice and it'll be interesting to see how other developers third party developers implement that into their design of the of their mechanics as they go to universal apps rather than different binary. So be very cool. Yeah yeah so tune in next week. Next week's episode. We'll talk all about big sur and real quick apple actually launched a new repair program for the airpods pro and this was actually a something that was experiencing my left. Airpods pro was getting static at times. Especially when i was on calls like zoom calls or even phone calls and so i actually did the apple support you know. Get into a text conversation with them. They really grilled me has a bunch of questions like when you experience it is at both are just one airpod this and that and so we finally got it to a place where they sent me a replacement left airpods pro. Just the left one. Because that's the i was just experiencing in the left one so they sent it to me comes in this cute little cardboard box with real interesting packaging so replaced it. I send my old one back. Include the shipping label and everything very easy process and my left airpods pro is working really well again. So if you haven't airpods pro in your hearing some static or crackling in some use cases even if it's not all the time don't hesitate to reach out to apple support you can do the text thing and they'll send you out you know replacement kid. I had actually brought them to an apple store. I and they tested it in the store with music and it didn't crackle then and so i felt like a crazy person but if it does keep happening and it annoys you airpods pro or not like super cheap so take advantage of a repair program. They mail it to you than you mail your old one away and good to go so i got mine replaced. Sound much better now. And i'll put a picture in the chapter art in the podcast for this one. You could see a little box cousins. Pretty funny but anyway i i will say though that it would drive me insane personally knowing. The one airpod is newer than the other. And then i'll be sitting there guessing like audio better out of my left ear now or listen a planet that in your brain. I was hoping that they would just send me too. But i needed to be honest. They were saying like is it in both animals like no just the left but i also had the idea of like battery life and it's like this is a new left. Airpods pro is. They're going to be like a large disparity and battery life like months from now like where the left one lasts all day but the right one dies halfway through so i did have those thoughts and it is bothering me. It was also weird. Like i did have to repair the airpods like know. Put it in the case open. The case opened closer to bunch of times. I've eventually it was not reading the left one. And so i went to the apple support page and it says. Actually throw it on the charger for twenty minutes. And so i did that. And then i take it off. You hold the pairing button on the back until it starts fading in and out with the white lights instead of the amber orange color and then i was able to repair and i did have to remove it from my settings like remove the airpods pro device completely and re add it but then both of them are paired but that thought did cross my mind west. So thank you for for reinforcing. That's what i'm here for. Your welcome is great. Well since since that was my tale of woe and recovery. Let's around the show telling our listeners. Your tale about trying to get a ps five and Yeah what happened there man. Well i don't know what playstation deal is this year. Xbox seems to be smooth sailing. I don't know there might be horror stories from that but it seems like they're preorder. Time went perfectly. Everyone who wanted to preorder one got in and out pretty quickly and then released a on the tenth. I just see. Everyone including federico vitucci over in italy holding their new xbox as everyone just loving their new consoles. And i'm over here in playstation line. Just like the world's on fire nothing's working. Nobody knows anything. We're just guessing as we go like the preorder day was sony said okay. Preorders are on this day at this hour through most of our retail partners and then somehow like day before that everyone preorders and all the bots went in and bought all the playstation before any human could even bother. So he's like. Oh sorry well just keep checking with our retail partners. There'll be other preorder periods between now and release date. And it was like okay. Cool well our buddy andrew. O'hara he keeps sending me links like go. Go get it now. It's it's it's available on this website right now it and i go click on it. And by the time i get there and click pre-order. It says we're sold out. I'm just banging my head on the desk so finally comes released and it's like man i'll just i dunno. I'll i'll go bring. Pat has lt. I'll work in a target parking lot. If i have to. I'm going to get one of these playstations and sony announces two days before by the way we're not gonna have any were Availability at all. It's online only good luck with our usual retail partners. And i'm just like you did this before. This isn't so get online on yesterday. And you know andrew again fishing me links showing me that. Oh yeah here's game. Stop game stops gonna have some playstation five available early today before the twelfth was that even mean no times. Nothing so. I've refreshed gained all day. Nothing midnight comes around game. Stop a new egg. Both saying we have new inventory in stock. Click here and you click on it and it takes you to a page where it says. Everything's already sold out pure insanity and now as we record we are seven minutes away from noon and walmart says at noon. Today you will be able to order playstation five on our website while supplies last so they're probably already sold out. It's not even twelve o'clock yet so we'll we'll see man. Well we will go so you can try again and see if you can get it. You know i've seen have you seen those memes people using the a. Are you know where they can put a. Ps five on their kitchen counter. I like telling their significant other that lord. Yeah that's fun dirty well. I wanted to comment on this. Just briefly it's interesting to me how this can be such chaos and it just goes back again to like how apple handles everything top to bottom from them manufacturing to shipping how we pre-order it right like you. You order iphone. 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The Future of Destiny | Kinda Funny Games Daily 06.09.20

Kinda Funny Games Daily

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The Future of Destiny | Kinda Funny Games Daily 06.09.20

"What's up everybody and welcome to kind of Funny Games daily for June ninth, twenty twenty. Or we, we actually now, but here we are you at all. We were on audio. They could hear you okay cool, so you guys already know. This is kind of funny games daily you. I'm your host and RECON, which you might not be aware of without video. Is that Fran Mirabella Third FM three underscore himself is joining me here today. Co hosting duties Fran. How you doing good morning, everybody. You. Working on new intro. That's not not achieve milk. Good morning free the energy to bring because you're going to need that energy because you've got to explain desperately to me in its entirety. That's why I'm so excited. Yeah, destiny revealed today amongst a lot of other news. I think. Amongst other news, being mcdonagh's holding steadfast on their monthly players. We've got a whole host of other game rumors and more, because this is kind of funny games daily each and every weekday at ten am. 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On twitch. The last of us to review is Friday. At twelve o one am Pacific Time in the core game jam Friday after Kfi Gd, so he packed week with cutting funding this week, so do not miss any of it because you could be one of those people like on Saturday. Less. You're not going to know this to be the big topic of the summer that you'll have no idea why. Thank our page on producers, Mohamed Mohamed Carnohan Etta blackjack today were brought to you by ourselves youtubecom. That's kind of funny games, but I'll tell you about that later for now, let's begin with what is and forever will be the report. Time in views got seven day. Baker's does learn does does. Does I love the Echo, it really owns. We're getting very closer to what actual Baker's dozen. It's going to happen one day. Exactly one day. Free and you just got back from a street got back. You just finished. Back in just landed a finished stream with one anti court has in one D. C.'s own Greg Miller. Who trying to I guess explain what's happening in destiny. Yes, once you now that you've already done that, you have to do it again. To the people who watch it on Youtube I didn't watch that previous stream to tell me what happened in. All Alright, not rehearsed. Give you the rapid roper report on what's going on with destiny. Today hopefully, you're listening on June. Ninth today is launched the new season season of arrival. Arrivals? That's not the big news, but they are dropping a new season. We knew nothing about it. That's probably been the most interesting thing. Is Destiny Fan? They didn't tell anything about what is going on with his story. They've kept things very close to their chest, and so it's exciting to get in there. I don't know a lot about it. Actually. They only showed a little bit. We do get a new public event group event of sorts. The big news is for today. If you want, hop back into destiny, free content for everybody. They're launching a new dungeon. which is called prophecy and it is based on if you know anything about her and the nine, very, we still know a ton about him and I'm not a lawyer. Guys often say there's very cool looking environments that we've only got the plane pb Pero. So anyway today. All this content launches new seasonal stuff, but we already knew there was a season coming. It's just that we didn't know much about it. and the fact that a dungeons coming is is big because of the destiny fan. That just hasn't been a ton of content place, so this is a nice welcome addition So I'M GONNA jump at a fall content, but I'll pause. Does that that get that part? That makes sense so far. I. It's a blanked out, so yes, you're! going. To. I just. Tune me out as I go. No, it is baked so new content, if have the season pass, but remember destiny to is free. Through the first the first year of content, but then they also had other stuff in so for for new content to drop. It's totally free, totally brand new, and by the way might be some of the coolest content that's coming this season to not be really part of the season pass, I mean it is. That is a huge deal and worth noting. Okay, the big deal destiny to fall expansion September twenty second. We have a date. Now, that's the first step then intergenerational cross play. That's right. PS, five PS. Four going to be able to play together at sixty frames a second year on the new consoles xbox series. Of course you know at smart upgrade is upgrade is so it's. It's a bit like that, but that is big news. So remember free content. That's the crazy part about this you're going to be able to. If you already own destiny to content, or you just install the free stuff, but if you own, let's say last year shadow keep content as far as understand. If you let on PS four shop. His five played for free. You don't have to buy the new destiny to expansion content on September twenty second, so that's that's definitely was a big deal, so go back over that again. If you. If you already own any destitute content, then you're. You're good for the new stuff. On a PS five. Yes, in remember this just happened so I. Hope I'm getting that right, but I couldn't even believe it. I sort of did believe it because again. There's a lot of free content, but you can. The in their words, the quote I wrote down, keep playing for free without buying for this content, so if you already own destiny to content, keep playing for free without buying on playstation fiber x Zach so yeah, as far as I. I know it's just a free upgrade of the destiny to content you already own, or if you want to buy the new content new seasonal content that's coming out after September twenty second of course, but let me tell you if if if that's not enough. What if I told you we know about what's happening in twenty twenty one Erin. Okay tell me what having twenty one. What if I told you? We also know what's happening in twenty twenty two. You think lying. If you're twenty three, I would think you're lying. Twenty twenty two I'm willing to hear to believe Fran so another unprecedented thing for destiny fans. We really haven't got this. Since the leaks of destiny one remember hearing about all of the activision, ten year plans and codenames for for stuff coming out came from the lawsuit with Vincent Peillon and Frank West exactly but. A lot of that stuff we hadn't seen, but the point is. They've never really talked about years ahead. Names and things they gave us twenty twenty one presumably fall content will be. They didn't say it will be fall content, but it almost always is which queen. If you're a fan of the game, what that means is taking king if you remember that the second year of destiny one. That guy's sister or x one of the big bosses in that and sabotage. but that that's content's going to be focused on that We don't know much about it, but the fact that came out and said that is really exciting for fans and then something called light fall. In Two thousand, twenty, two. What we're getting this fall though is Forgot to tell you it's destiny. Beyond the light. It's other beyond late or beyond the late. I don't have it right in front of me. Just happened beyond light. Sorry, beyond late is what we're getting this fall. So Lot of stuff. There the big other thing. Maybe that's not worthy cause. I don't WanNa take over the whole show with destiny. So you just tell me if it's too detail Janko Hebrew it on. We're getting off if we were getting a new subclass, and as destiny fan with that means right is we have the blue, the red and the Purple Energies that we have fire and electric city void power right now going to get too deep into it, but the power you use across three different classes of characters so still three classes characters, but then each one of them have. This. This type of energy can use as an RPG right. That's big what you will than how they balanced the game out. They haven't added anything since destiny one. Twenty fifteen. I don't think it came out until twenty fifteen, it might have been the end of two thousand fourteen, but it's been a really long time, and so they are introducing stasis or this dark power as a new subclass. That's going to be really big for fans. If you're looking for as someone who still like I still don't know what you're talking about, but I've Kinda like to jump in and out of destiny. This might be one of the bigger reasons to jump in a whole new power type. They're going to be doing a lot of like tuning and stuff around this. I'm sure. You've been changing a lot with making it more of a living. You Know Em, emo, style, RPG versus being just like some action shooter. They've been leaning more into having mods on everything you know and and classes and building out those classes, so so there's going to be really big and the other big news, maybe to touch on real fast is because the game is getting so big. We can expect to see some things. we don't know that is precisely yet unless it's on the website right now and I haven't got a look at it yet. Because it's just broke, but there are going to be bringing back some stuff, too. So even undertakings away. We're going to see some old strikes from destiny one. It sounds like that. We adored come back. Be able to play those as part of his destiny content vault. And the very first rate ever of Alta Glass, which is a lot of people's favorites. It's one of their most fond memories you know. Probably where they got their Gallo Horn as many people have probably heard about the old rocket launcher that the Greg makes fun of all the time, the Gal Horn but That's coming back sometime in year four. PG point, which is like kind of what they always sorta ended. It was supposed to be but like so I guess part of this. activision was Budgie, solace. In activist immediately game, so it does feel like it actually kind of getting to what they wanted it to be. Yeah exactly. It's been a mission that they've they've been on for a while I was trying to pull up Luke Smith's quote that it seems like he's been trying to get the team in the fans. The launch launch latch onto. Has Been we want destiny to be an amazing action memo in a single evolving world that you can play anytime so an amazing action Amona single evolving world that is the other thing we found out as as all the content I talked about they said is that's destiny to and they they actually words out of Luke's mouth was that they don't want to put it on another number on the box, so destiny to is going to continue to just kinda be broken apart and and upgraded, and you know that's a three looks like it's not really in the plans could. Maybe you could speculate that it's coming in two thousand twenty three, but the truth is, it sounds like. They're just going to start evolving this world s destiny to and really significant ways so get used to it I. Kinda wonder when we're GonNa get and how you upgrade that engine, and do you I mean decimate looks great already on PC, which is what you can sort of expect on next, but I know they've had a lot of troubles with the tech as well though that. Makes a lot of challenges so I? Don't know what they're doing With all that and it's also worth noting over the weekend is one last night. If you didn't catch, did their live. Event Style fortnight has been doing in game events, so destiny is volving in a lot of ways. I watched your like reactions that have been yeah. It was very interesting looking on twitter. It's like I would see. Numbers like just watch. Ship exploded for ten minutes like that was the big deal that I saw. Ever The and it was it. You know you've been words in my mouth, but. In a positive reaction. But. Yeah because you know since let's take the the moment I can be on this platform with all the great other fans here do WANNA point out. Take a moment as much as we all sat around the tower for eighty five minutes, and not a lot happening then five minutes of a ship exploding the tech behind that stuff. I, ask you. Other than four night. Can you name on your hand? How many other Games have done that? And I I struggled to do that right where you sat in a live event of that magnitude of that quality, even if it was for minutes with, and it's only to be fair, it's twenty five people in an instance, but across all those stuff timed at the exact. Same time is significant to build that technology. I don't know how long that took, but that could have been. A year in the making, it could have been longer. But because four nights been doing this for years, so it really is step forward. I always used the Zelda example to maybe bring it home, but imagine intendo announce the you know when we saw the new breath of the wild, that is going to be coming out that the way they did it was they said gather you know in high rule, and we went there, and all the sudden like Schley something crashed into the world and changed it. Plugged a hole in the ground, and it changed it in front of you. That's type stuff that's happening, so I'm just excited for. The super cool like I think. Live events are going to be a major thing for games going forward, especially as all of them have to be connected and be things that people gathered a look at so it does make sense as what Budgie is going towards with destiny. It's very similar to the way blizzard got. People hyped up for cataclysm of like the world is changing. Everything you knew was going to change, and if they're trying to go to the animal, angle. This is a very logical way to do it. Yeah, you mentioned how they're probably GONNA stick to destiny to and not actually move onto destiny three not. Like they're using this as a platform for future destiny stuff, which big hole sense, but it does seem like they are actually going to introduce a new product soon because according to Thompson was at Euro Gamer Bundy's new Ip is both light, hearted and whimsical bungee given a few hints on its new non destiny franchise currently early in development, so a series of new job postings offered a couple of snippets. The city of Calvert incubation art director speaks of the product is being quote. Something comedic with quote hearted characters. They credit the game post for those. Particular quotations. And opening for the incubation investment designer, ask for someone include up on the loop grind game quote living inside a giant database at hundreds of Baba weapons and armor is nothing new to the job. Creation reads, and neither is building. A system cleverly distributes those items and Necker Dungeon finally they commission senior lead combat designer is acquired to work on encounters which will play a part along with weapon and armor. Armor Systems, although he was issued, specifically say for Bundy's new Ip it probably in the studio, wishes to grow to its next big franchise, so for an added destiny fan. Does this sound one interesting to you in two different enough from destiny that you're actually like okay? Yeah, I'd be into this. It first of definitely sounds interesting because late heart and Wim schools, not with destiny is at all and. I always gonNA feeling that like. That game is more comedic when people think. Something comedic. Is there they do have? That's I feel like that's just bungee. They, have they get it? It's video game, but late heart and whimsical for starters, but the the thing that stands out to me. This is the first time I've I've seen this because again. This kind of came up this morning during all this Does this sound like this is like Diablo? Dungeon crawler, thing like what it's really hard to say, but doesn't it sound? Like that almost living inside a giant database of hundreds of baubles and weapons and armor is nothing new to you but neither is a system cleverly distribute those items in neck. Acronym Answers Dungeon I mean obviously it gets that last line is. Yeah. It could be anything I guess. Does destiny is what I'm getting like. That line like if you didn't tell me this was a new IP. Yeah, that's that sounds like more destiny stuff. Yeah, to to be fair yet. You could apply to anything so maybe I'm getting my hopes up that it's a dungeon crawl I and I don't even know what I want. I think it's safe to say that bungee would not create Let's say they they make it a little more. Borland's looking than the current destiny. It's like right. It's like Borderland, which destiny already is and was inspired by. It's not gonna be something like that. I think. Fable. Kind. The word, yet go my heart out to me. I hope so I. don't see Bungy not making I. I feel like that's their bread and butter, and they know it, but I could be down for something like okay. You're not into destiny, or maybe this is destined for a younger audience or something like that. Both of those make some sense. You think it might be I. I. I was GonNa say I think they might they wanna be you know I'd have to see. Parsons quotes again, but they do want to be a publisher in addition to a multi franchise studio and I think to be that you can't just do first. Person Shooters I actually. I've no knowledge of this project, but I feel like they wanna go third person and they wanna make a different kind of. despite what their experiences first person shooters, but they have a lot of people that have been on. You know not just first-person shooters, so you can see that I think they might be going down this route of. Yeah, maybe it's a fable shacking. Slash I. Don't know I mean. If. You asked me if respond would ever make a third person, Action Star Wars Game. It'd be like no, that doesn't make any sense, but right they did, and it was great so budget easily just make a great game, and then they'll no longer be like. Oh, we're zooming. It's going to be sooner because that's all you do. Yeah, I would. I would welcome anything in the realm of fallen order type game from them. You know that goes down around like that so anyway? This is the first. We've really even got a peek into maybe what it's about, but. The game does seem really early. Their soldiers hiring for it so that we're not going to see it anytime soon at say like an xbox event because the xbox that was supposed to be yes. In June has reportedly by Jeff Crowe Jeff Grubb has been. He was on on a phone call into game sale yesterday, and explained that there was some movement of internal things at xbox for events, but Aaron Greenberg is going saying he's tweeted that we have not pushing anything back. Our planner, amazing next digital show into July and teams are working hard on that so I don't know if you remember. Remember a couple of months last month. I don't know time means nothing anymore, but last month. I think that xbox announced they would have monthly events leading up to the launch of the xbox series Ex, explaining like what the system is gamed, looking for their first and inside xbox event kicked thing of not super well light third party on the one with the first game reveals that like we're. I could see where they were going with it I could see the logic of it. I don't think it was the read the room well Banger Yeah. So people were kind of holding their hopes out that maybe June was going to be a big thing and. This is he three week? We always assumed that it would be something three like, but Mexico saying no. We're holding off for big big. FIRST PARTY EVENT IN JULY? Jeff Grubb of games me. It was Kinda reporting that there was something planned for June a hardware revealed. That would probably Talk Lockhart, but they're going to let you go first on that. They don't want to be the first one to say. Hey, we have this hardware. This is the price this is. This is the chief provocative looking at. Like is yeah. It's difficult. It's difficult for them. They're in a difficult position where. Even if they did move things internally, we'd also probably never know yeah. I have to say yeah. I'm just generally confused. Because e three would be happening right now. where! xbox was going to take over at one point I understood right? Wasn't that originally the plan maybe? From this plan, weren't they originally going to make June a huge thing? Yeah, they were, they were more or less tested at. Yeah, you through this. Is that something? We assume though Imran. You know what I mean like. Did we assume that they'd have this huge presser with all these games? And now that's the thing that's happening in July. That's what I assumed. Because when he got cancelled wouldn't have it. My under lake in other words did they always have a July event planned for this year and not the biggie thing, probably not. My understanding is last month's event like the game play was always planned. It was going to be an overflow event for things that were just couldn't wait till June or whatever. Other things were broken up over time. So. The of it was a bigger event, but then it just ended up being like okay well. We got this time now. Let's let's move some things around a little bit. So the the core of what they were gonNA show. Any three is actually. happening in July, but stuff like hardware is probably. I could easily believe it's going to be an August thing now, even later man. have to honestly like. Let's, they couldn't now they? Apple Announces New iphone new ipads like. Days Day of or weeks of. It's not an insane thing to like. Hold that sort of stuff back. No you don't have to, but the in the spirit of competition now that is the the thing to worry about in. I wanted to ask you about that. Like what do you think's GonNa do? Are they going to come out with pre orders and a price, hardware and lake some games to show, or do you think it'll be a little more drawn back to to be you know? Here's a look at like what you can expect, but we'll tell you more about the preorder and stuff later I think. I, think Sony's in. We're GONNA talk about like more about predictions that repealing the post show today, but I do think that there reveals probably going to be mostly focused on Games I. Don't think we'll get a price. We may get a look at the box. That may be like the biggest thing we see in terms of hardware, so yeah we do. We don't necessarily expect them to be like because we've Saturday three before when the xbox is certainly done this and start and toews playstation I think Priori now and we're trying to get reception. You know on our phones and pre-order this stuff. I was Kinda thinking like. Maybe they won't happen. It's pointless to speculate because we're days away anywhere, but like it's fun to. But if Sony came out with that I was just thinking like the question to you is regardless maybe if Sony comes out with their price and sort of. Let's call it the preorder. Maybe it is a pure I, and it's exciting like. Do you think it's a mistake from to wait when it's like? It's GonNa Look Great. Or do you think it is an advantage to see if they can cut the price and weight great? It's hype versus price in a way. Don't you think because like you said may was not that throwing like already feel that way about xbox like show us the exclusives right and if Sony comes out and says here's the exclusives. Here's how they look awesome. Okay, and here's the price you want a priori. Go for an xbox is like we're coming. You know what I mean so okay. I think the people are going to be fairly impressed by what Sony has to show this week. I think it has emerged as best interest to wait and see what they do, and what those games are are being shown because they probably disobeyed because they've got those studios to. They've been like. Hey, let's make a deal. They've been told Oh. We already made a deal. So they they have a good idea. What's being shown but I think waiting for their reaction and then coming back harder as their best bet. Yeah. We'll see I'm making that face. Only you are right, and it's optimistic I'm just it's. It's going to be hard to swing back because we know Sony has awesome, stable, a very experienced studios working on great stuff, and hopefully we get a peek at that plus just their third party support you know, and they've already got a buy in on that many regardless xbox has been working with what thirteen new exclusive, or whatever, so it's not GonNa Change by July. The you know, the the footage is not going to change within the month, so I think it's more about how they they present it, but I. Don't know I I. Guess Either Way. It's going to be tough because. Sony has a lot of buying. And by the way I'm not some Sony Fan. Boy Ages for Microsoft I've been a fan of for a long time with xbox and I think we all felt the same way about xbox one like it just. See between other than see at thieves, you know. And folks There's just not a ton. You know when I think of playstation especially games like you know, got a war horizon. Which I know you're playing like this. They're staples amazing so anyway. I just think they need to come out. To beat the I I think they would have had the advantage to come out and be the first big bang. That's what I'm saying. The may event. Really I think now has taken the wind out of the sales of Microsoft being the leading next Gen system which was for a long time. We're going to be there first. We're GONNA show you to now. It's like I feel like this Thursday. So and he's just gonNA. Wrap on rap a ton, and then we're now waiting again for xbox. Almost like none of this stuff. They didn't sex last six months matters you know. I mean I I agree with you but I. Think the only Blunt Souza more than being late is being first, and then being one upped like if they come out there and sing an Aria about how halo of infant is amazing, it looks great. They show the new initiative game and all that stuff, and it does impress, but then. Saudi impresses more than they are in a position. That's going to be very hard to come back from the problem. With Microsoft, right now is you're right. They were leading on the next. Reveal stuff for a very long time, but they are still from. A mindshare standpoint starting from behind, so if they don't come out with all the right moves and the May event was one of the wrong moves then they have. They haven't more difficult time making that. First impression I look back at like the switch stuff like switches a very good example what we'd expect in this section because of the way that was viewed it real in January, at least in March yeah and people like watch that event like this thing is not going to sell, but then that breath awhile chair came on, there was shit. This game looks amazing I. This, and it was already on review you, but he will run by for that. Microsoft can go out there this time and say let's make that are big movement. Let's show trailer for something. Maybe he'll if it might be something else that sets it on fire, yeah. We're GONNA have to see because if somebody does blow the doors off with the reveal like a lot of suspect, they will then just has a. A larger amount to catch up by yeah I think you make a good counterpoint, and it's important to remember is if they see kind of what the there is an advantage I think it's fair to say. Let's say Sony does not get out of the park Thursday. It gives them a chance to still form around and say we. We've got time left. Still we can. We can come out stronger, but now we. We learn a little bit from what they did. The reactions and we gotTA. We gotTA. beat him. Do and they can strategy so I. Think on one hand. They can do that, but I just thought as you said that I'm like maybe they do I. Know Fill and the whole team has been working so hard for so many years. Maybe they do have this secret. This secret in their back pocket. You know this rabbit in their hat that nobody knows about that. Right the same impact when we saw you know I'm a war fan boy, obviously when I saw God of War I was just like holy crap, and I haven't felt that way about xbox games in a while. That's all like I'm I'm a health into, but like right it's. That I'm still you've been waiting to see on that front? But it can't be halo wearing. You know about halo so I been come out with something that kind of impact when I saw got a war, but they can do that now. which is very unusual. Going into a new next Gen launch you normally. Aren't you don't have something ready to show. That's maybe not even gonNA. Come out for a year and a half from now. Yeah, but they need. They need a trailer. That has that you know to get me to. Even if it's coming out in two thousand twenty one right to say. This guy wore quality thing whatever it is, that will blow your mind coming out twenty twenty one. That's just one of our thirteen games, but new perfect dog finally do it. I'll take that. Yeah, yeah, what's rare up? So your enthusiasm production is about here. I needed to be right up here. Because Leila's neo truck man has undecided right now, but whether his next game will be the last of us three or a new. From Joe Scribbles Aegean Naughty Dog Vice President Neil Druckman. Has It has yet? Has, not. Yet decided if his next game will be the last almost part three where a brand new IP in a huge interview article with G.. Q. Chuck, explains that so close a glass of per to his. Inevitably been gun turning to the next project quote as rep things up creatively there are fewer and fewer responsibilities by might can't help, but they got the next thing, so yeah, the next thing could be three, or it could be some new IP dropping gives no indication as to which he prefers jeep caref- Isaac his mindset as ultimately the best idea wins if ninety dollars in return for a third Osama a celebration franchise. It seems like it'd be. It would revisit. The same ruined America settings the first Games rather than diverge too much as the planning stages for a second game, jumping explains at to the ending of the first game of sacred refer. Prefer. And would have preferred for it to not be continued quote. People are always like doing other one focus on all new characters or like do it like Europe are doing in Japan. Do something really different? Druckman describes that approach as the coward's way out as if to ruin force the idea, any less equal folks them, same kinds of locations and characters chuck adds as you were to wildly chain setting up protagonist to me at that point, you might as well just do. So. I. Don't know if you've been playing the last part do. Not Know. How excited are you for it? Oh, super excited. I, mean saved a I. Hope I have the same. You know things to say that I've been saying about God. A war about elegance, just one of those super high quality cinematic. Amazing looking experiences on the playstation for and it looks like it's shaping up to be that and I I. Love How dark and emotional. Let's say that last of us is just love Brooding Games like that obviously last of us you go back to. It was a long time ago. Now the mechanics and everything so I can't wait to see how it's evolved I'm super. Super excited for it. It's weird because it's like a next Gen game. Honestly the quality to the you know the studios at this level are able to crank out. It pretty much feels like an action game that we get now so I hope that's what it is as someone. That really liked the last of us. Would you prefer? They make less part of the rewards refer they like. Make a new idea maybe. He is so I think it's hard for us to answer eighty one under embargo to answer like I. Don I gotTa See what's going on with before I. Tell You. Should we get three? What I can say though is you know we would've never had this amazing experience? If they didn't break away from uncharted and I, have to assume that's kind of what's going through Neil's mind is like. We were able to do this amazing new thing because we did break away, everybody just wanted more unchartered I over on. They had to put their foot down I. Think and say we're going to try something new, and it's hard to do something new. It's scary so I. I. It sucks because I want both. But. Honestly I think you know quick quick thinking. Loved seemed do something new because their track record lines up so if you're going to bring me a brand, new IP, totally new creativity. I don't WanNa have to wait forever. Though so that's always a trade off to like if you do. Alaska's three. You know it's GonNa. Take a while already, but a brand new IP. You know we're GONNA have to wait an extra. I mean it's been seven years since last of us one like it's been a while. You're right, and that's what I'm getting at. There's there's a potential to flip. They built so much I think. The they've evolved ton in time rate I think it's easier to flip into Alaska's three than it is a new IP. And a half to assume, that's really weighing on them. There was probably tons of ideas they right. That didn't hit the table, so there's a lot of things that will work going into the next Gen. Whereas if you do not new IP, we might be waiting for a while. I don't know that Sony can afford to wait so. I don't know. What do you think I I'm always a fan of new things but like again? Yeah, you're right. It does depend a lot unless of us to like. Who knows I've Yeah I've not played that game. Like? What if he ends up being like a? Say A bad game. But what if there's a reason to not have a Lhasa three the end of it you know, but that's a topic that would probably be better discussing last podcast, which is actually being launched my position. This is from Matt Personal. Has announced an official. The last of US podcast series the part series hosted by writer and stand up comedian Chris Spicer will explore the development of both the last two, and it's all outside the last part who sequel the first episode is available now will be released weekly on Tuesdays Episode One Beach Areas Naughty Dog's Neil Druckman and Anthony. Newman discuss the first few hours of the original game. Future episodes include chat with Ashley Johnson and Troy Baker as developers composer. Kosovo's Santo. Oh Wow I, I. I don't want to mess that name up by trying to pronounce it, but everyone knows who I'm talking about because he's really good and nodal fans of the series from July. seventh the episodes we'll be discussed last per to providing a deep dive into the new games created. So after you finish this this or watching this, go check that out. Don't don't stop in the middle of this. In fact, watch this twice and then go do that right? They can't it until July seventh all right. The last of US part to one. The current episode is Oh Yeah So. If you're looking to get caught up, there's a reason are good way to do so. Have you ever had your account hacked. I mean who has in its twenty twenty I have had my daddy stolen and I've done it. All really comes to security breach. Yes, somebody bought a car WANNA dodge charger at a Sacramento dealership and I got a call. She was mistaken in thinking that I think I was a girl got over. Just in time that it didn't, they didn't process it fully at the dealership, or that would have been a nightmare. It's still a problem, but anyway. I actually got my Nintendo account like logged into a couple of weeks ago. Because one of those accounts, I didn't put on to authorization. Because like I think it is intended to account, who really cares? I have nothing like tied to it, but somebody in Russia apparently logged in Nintendo actually says additional one hundred forty thousand accounts were compromised in a recent data-breach Strip Dexter Tan Guan. At Dot, E. Sports then was found that additional one hundred forty thousand Nintendo network ID's in an ideas have been used breaking that associated attended cows, according to an updated state from Japanese from the Japanese Game Company. Then there was taken the initiative to reset passwords recover misers learned customers of the data breach. The company added that it'll be taken quote. Additional security measures. The companies have less than one percent of all Internet ideas logged in engaged in fraudulent purchases. Most customers should have received refunds put the processes remain incomplete this time of additional one hundred sixty thousand counts breached in April and then central capability to site into account via an ideologue and system, which is proven to be achievability. So if you're one of those people the attached. To a three or we you, which I'm guessing is like a Deja people that have won then your account may be at risk so keep that in mind and it. Does Change Your Password? I just changed my password and I put onto FAA. So that's yeah. That's the other aspect of this is put on to fame for these things, because these companies aren't great about refunding you or making sure you get your money back, and they are very not great about letting you like stop charge do a charge back Sony will pain or account straight out if you try to do that, so. Put Onto A. Time Yeah. It's an. Inconvenience. I can't believe I need to wait for this code or whatever, but it's better to do that. Then lose entire account. Definitely good advice. So today, a bunch of game rumors sort of popped up and I. Don't want to hit all of them in four like. Full detail, but let let let's talk a little bit about some of them so today. This came from tweak town from Anthony after, but all the original sources of German site game reactor far cry six supposedly on the rumor docket. The rumors! A, it's an exotic location, so if you're tired of America from the far cry, five and far cry new dawn was. Yeah. This is supposedly set for feel for you before it on July. Twelfth NATO, by actually wrote in into the questions. I didn't actually pick this question. Saying like Hey, you resolve Mitch AAA game. They have not yet announced. This could probably be that. Where would you like? Are you first of all? He was in the mood for far cry. Because that is like my problem with the series right now is I'm a little fatigued with it. Would you be like oh? Shit a new far cry down for this. Oh yeah sure. I mean you're. You're getting burnt out on him. I was getting burned out by. Five I, Sir. I should caveat like I'm not like the world's biggest far cry. sorry, far cry fan! I played some five some new dawn. I actually didn't have time or make time to play many of the originals. SORTA be fair. I'm not the you know. The person asked, but what I have I don't know. He goes back to the conversation we had, but it's like new Ip would be nice, but I think far cry works I think. There's some really pretty cool games overall, so I think it just needs a pretty big refresh in hopefully going into the next Gen. Hopefully we'll see what this essence creed. We see some some big advancements to game play versus just like Oh. It's far cry from you know five and a new location rate. Can't just be that I hope I, thank you as always under a weird, not weird I guess they have always in the world to believe this, but they're under the assumption that to make a far cry. Fascia you change the location? You change the villa? Yeah, if make it who far cry sticks to do more than that. That's exactly what I was saying like as long as they do that of course, but yeah, it's just a new location like the whole thing. It started with being in Koo locations like that's is what made it cool? It was these big open areas. South like bears attacking you out of nowhere animals of of different kinds, but they need to do more than that now, so yes, we'll see on July twelfth rumors. True I mean there are no strangers to completely up ending a series Let's see I could easily believe. That is their big review. Because otherwise they've really mentioned much in. The. Biggest game to show then. They still have watchdog lesions. They still have assassin's creed. Those Games are existing. We know they're coming, but they're not new announcements. So far cry could easily be one of those, and they yeah, but they said what was that report where they said they have the number of right. There was a number of new franchises that are. What was it exactly? They talked about all of their franchises, and they haven't announced everything but meeting people were starting to speculate it's. Jumped to it. Yeah, but did you may. Do you believe that splinter cell's out there somewhere? Does it have a chance since July I feel like we say this for every year for the last about four years i. Completely speculation I'm GONNA guess like they put sand, fish or something, but I don't think it's going to be called a spinner sell I think it's going to be like another like a division event or something like that. Actually I'm really surprised. They've not done that so far. Like why is or not in the division? In some way it's set in DC I'm sure that has something to do with Tom Clancy's Laura. I don't even know if you can do that. Given the there's a lower game that's literally like every this. Tom Clancy heroes like Tom Clancy. Ex Calmer. Whatever like you know right? Yeah, yeah, but that's like. Right it would be bringing together the character. Yeah, we've got this smashing. Yeah I don't think they can I'm not sure. I'm not I don't know the Lord, Tomko and stuff I don't know that they can just bring Sam into division, but they own his name, and they can do whatever they want with it now. UBISOFT now owns the property so speaker ownership it could be. Nakimora says his are pretty high should get commie to greenland by Capcom. She was talking to Japan where she mentioned that. That's as soon as quarantine is over. She wants to go to Capcom and talk to the company to the human more. If you don't remember, she became kind of a big star and three last year in the conference, which you came on very enthusiastically revealed goes wear Tokyo, a new horror game from, but as a and then subsequently a few months later, just left very mysteriously. Related maybe work is done, but she was creative director, so there's no way that's the game. So. I very interesting to see where that goes I know comedy to was anything cap complain to do at one point so I could easily see it being a situation of her going to smooth over whatever caused it to be. Cancelled or not not greenland, or whatever and trying to get that done, because she's been making a tour of various studios and all that stuff I would bet that's the thing she wants to work on and she was on the original. I believe. Yeah. She wasn't create director obviously, but yeah like she had some maybe experience on it I. Believe She was part of the Capcom group that left clover leaf, capcom slash clover to come to platinum games, and then from there went with becoming to. Tango so I don't know for a fact. She was comedy, but I would bet she has involvement. Was it looks that way I was just looking up, but yeah. I thought it was like what was the relevance of her being the person to convince them but I assume had worked on. It says background production is the quick IMDB credit that I pulled up that Commie so bad she would have still been likes to A. Baby Boy Yeah Gio auto back. You know but I I'm guessing probably very formative, and she mentioned that interview that fourteen years ago. She did actually get agreement she would want. To Go back and actually direct it which I'd be down for me was a great game that was extremely long and very poorly paced, but still game there'd be willing to love it though yeah. Speaking of beloved, a new metal slug wasn't announced that I did not realize it was announced, but there's two games actually involved in it. There's a console game and a mobile game. This concern K. in Korea in reported by all-star. Walvis Okara but there's two games. There's one console game coming twenty twenty. That is a side scrolling action game like we know also to be, but there's also a new mobile game, so that should be interesting to see I'M Has had some success with King of Fighters Fourteen and Samurai showdown. If. They're big a new metal slug that looks like that game. It looks like those. Then I. Think People are going to be pretty. Not Upset. But there will be a backlash to that I think. Did. You're talking about the update. King of fires didn't look like it's very true to its form. Is that it animated very wentz form look. There were three D. models that have hand-drawn. Brains and you, so it is probably the initially looked at very ugly over time until released started looking a little bit better, but. I think people accepting that the king of fighters I can see. They're accepting it with Samurai showdown metal slug might be bridge too far. Yeah, I don't know it's tough to to try to bring like a franchise into the modern era, but also respect it. Right Metro had to go through that I mean obviously a big change for metro had gone to something like metro prime, but it can be done. Yes, that's totally different type of game, but like you know Break Castle Vania, people want. Want that they've tried and so on so I. Don't know if they they would did. They don't see any type of company that would go that far by the way I, think they would do more like what you're talking about. Which is trying to modernize the graphics which Kinda Piss off fans, but yeah I think it was obvious, ob aside, stroller, but. If it doesn't look hand drawn. I think people have some issues I excited how over to see it, but that's so far away if I wanted to know what's coming to mom and pop shops today? Where would I look? The official is of upcoming software across each and every platform as listed by the kind of Funny Games daily show host each and every weekday. Up By yeah. Yeah. 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Blessing was going down the titles. So there's nine in the woods. If you replay that like a ton of really amazing games and there for five dollars, you can pay more if you want to. You probably should. It's a cry that you're not, but you should actually be if you can't spend the US screw the five bucks. It's A. Cup of coffee exactly can we Kevin? Can we see Pussy? Puzzle Tyler See plus puzzle or a hundred percent I wasn't listening to. You know. I'm writing now fan. The fans want us. And see what comes up. Can you give them the pussy puzzle? Footage. It's on steam. And if we don't have time for it. I felt like you know a Youtube League. If it's a porn, humbly do do not post it. There are in fact Porn Hav. What how are you know is definitely not i. don't know what you're searching for because he puzzle. Just released today. While Kevin is. Let's talk about what kind of funny games do. Reading. For I was GONNA. Ask you expect it to be literally a game about. No. Name a cave that you know what you're doing. Yeah, that's what I was to ask you. Of course, it's exactly what it sounds like. They know they're doing. They want people on Stephen. See like Oh shit. Then click it like. Oh, cats and there's nothing funny. Sample. Seventy. Five. Cents off. Just FYI. How? Hours in twenty four cents. That seems expensive for puzzle. A Jigsaw Puzzles with an hand-drawn which went over this android cat pictures. and. They say sorry, not sorry for the Click Bait all right so. What's that? Cheat look. She pressed the leaked the cheapen. Is the most press pussy puzzle has gotten. One of the features, there's twenty pussies with character to puzzle usually having fun time, aren't you? It's one of the features their cats. All right. We're brought today by what we call House ad, which is, we're talking about youtube dot com slash kind of funny games, which is the Youtube Channel for what you're watching right now, so let's say you miss early parts of this. Let's say you Miss Fran. Talking about Pussy and you desperately what do clip? You desperately want clip that and put it make a gift of it. You didn't have enough time to rush over to your computer. When you heard Fred, talk about pussy puzzle. You're like. We need to give. We need to make a Gif of that or the kind of. The read it. Thankfully youtubecom that's kind of funny games to actually be there for you where you get also fine. Nick Scorpion Pinot who is a real life. Jol play the last of US through the tired of the game. If you WANNA, get caught up on that. If you want to understand, that lasts less podcast I don't know who Joe Llanelli are. You can watch nick. Ask those same questions out loud to Greg Miller by watching Youtube Channel. Let's actually get reader questions now frankfurter rice in and ask good morning. All this is Greg team. Couple days ago. With everything else having less two weeks, we've gotten a lot of information at promises change from major developers when it comes to online multiplayer helper, when can we expect these new promises to be ruled out, and no, it takes more than a data add filters, such and such two games, but surprising to hear that friends of mine hopped into a metro over wash during the weekend. Playing actress said match due to racial slurs being toss round frivolously frivolously in chat hitting the game they loved should xbox playstation steam, etcetera it. Actual rule was published. A must filter hates me going forward. Parody disease. Why the fuck they don't right now is absolutely insane. It might have been in. Thanks for all you do Frankfurter. So yeah, I don't know if you saw fran, but like call of duty I think apex and other places like other Games added filters this week, saying hey, yeah, we're just GONNA Ban Racism now which a lot of people reacted with. Did you not before? Yeah, wait. How did you do the so fast all the sudden It's funny because it was very welcome, so obviously awesome that they're. They're making taking a stand, but then it was like wait if you could have done this so easily. What took you so long? But yeah, it now is begging the question, right? What is taking everybody else so long? So, I don't know I I do think part of it is tech, but it does beg the question like they're actually internal conversations about. If you accidentally band someone I don't even care. If you accidentally over whatever word is you're confused about like whatever can't be that difficult like right like there's going to be way more racist. Then there are the person who's like. I didn't I was talking about Pussy Puzzle Right. I wasn't talking about the other thing. You know what I mean. I. One here. But the point is you could get confused over that. But the point is there's way fewer people who had like good intent. I think that will have to appeal so yeah, just put the filters in if that. This is a good time to call out. Rainbow succeeds which doesn't amazing job of like banning tolerance policy on all this stuff. You could very easily like kind of walk into it, but you can't very easily walk into it ten times a row, so at that point, it's like. You've lost all chances your band. They should have done this a long time ago. The fact that they announced it means that they had that analogy to do so it just chose not to. So I could. I think it does make sense Lakers says for those exterior liberty esteem so. lasi affair about the stuff. They probably just won't but for Sony and Microsoft. Thing of hey, we're going to make a monetary game with. On our system, then you have to. You have to have these things in place. Yeah, one hundred percent agree that all right. It's time but squad up Real Quick Ryan Grant writes in for the xbox one with a username colonel. Co L. O. N. A. L. Like the rank. 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ACG Aimless Podcast #9 Kickstarters, Making Life Decisions, Stupid Ideas, Bad Ideas, and Icecream Hangovers

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ACG Aimless Podcast #9 Kickstarters, Making Life Decisions, Stupid Ideas, Bad Ideas, and Icecream Hangovers

"Sup everybody this is Karaoke with G. Have you ever wanted to start your own? Podcast Sharia think everyone out. There wants to be in the next Joe. Rogan MINUS ALL. The brain damage will someone who has used four different podcast hosting services. I have to say I'm actually incredibly happy with one. I'm on right now. Which is anchor at Anchor Dot f. m. and that's where I'm speaking you live from right now. Uploading takes just moments go and live as easy. They take care of making sure that other podcast hosting sites get your content alerts and you can basically record and edit and make changes right on the page. Now if you're a big sponsorship fan or somebody out there who is looking for a little bit of extra ad revenue for your podcast. They also match you up with ads. 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I'll throw it up there in the next couple hours as I post this too spotify night tunes. These are podcasts. Where I just sit down and talk about random things about games about life about everything I possibly can give you a little bit information about behind the scenes stuff jumped board games maybe jumped to just random real world shit love for you guys to stop by. Go grab yourself some coffee. Grab yourself your liquid of choice and sit down and discuss with me this podcast. You'll hear a little bit more clicks and clocks because I do have everything open and I'm just sitting here on different tabs. He may here me clip to a tab as I read you a story or discuss something that I see on the internet or perhaps a dog bark at some different time. I WANNA say thanks everybody who goes to. I tunes anchor and spotify and subscribes and reviews the PODCASTS. These absolutely help. You know for a podcast. It only goes up normally every Friday. We see incredibly good numbers at on itunes and spotify and it really does help for every person who goes tells other people spread the word about this I think the international podcasts are great but we'll be adding more to these as I diversify throughout the year. Something that I started last year. So let's jump into it. The aimless podcast. You've seen these things we've had everybody from takedown Dabsi to India to reg and silver GB. We've had different people from different youtube channels today. It's GonNa be me by myself. This was sort of a random thing that popped up decided. You know what I'm GonNa do this. You may have noticed last week. I posted a video almost every single day on Youtube. And this week. I'm probably going to do an alternating thing. Where I post one audio. Only and then do something to youtube and maybe even do something on twitches. I sort of diversify NC however things go talk about diversification later when it comes to a channel and why you'll see this pretty much from every single person who has any kind of channel and how they're going go about it the first thing. I'm GONNA talk about now. I've been looking at kickstarter so I don't know if you guys know actually did. My Own kickstarter. Both failed one in a successful one. The failed one was for a d a role playing world. One that I'll probably be role playing here and GM ING here on twitch soon but that one failed. That didn't work out. I took something from that kick started that I really liked which was a collectible or not. Collectible I'm sorry but bicycle cards and a card deck had an artist. Draw up the cards and I did a successful bicycle deck kickstarter. That really well for me. It was very enjoyable. And I WANNA talk about the INS and outs of kickstarter and just sort of the way things work behind the scenes when it comes to games and when it comes to kick starters themselves you know kickstarter when it first started out was for companies that had no money and now we're seeing people like platinum games who are getting money from ten cents then doing a kickstarter and I hear a lot of people asking about this. Like how do you feel about a company that's vested doing a kickstarter versus somebody? That perhaps isn't when everything started. I certainly was against that. I certainly felt that it was a place where people who could not do those wheeling and dealing kinds of situations To create their stuff and to get people Behind it and especially people who? Maybe they have an idea. Maybe there artist isn't the AAA artists that a- some other big game company is but they've got a pretty good artist and they've got a really good idea and they've got what they feel is a undercurrent of demand for something. So they put it up on kickstarter. That's the way kickstarter started when I did. My Secondary Kickstarter got contacted by a company. Who said we'll run your kickstarter for you. Not I found this odd. I was like what do you mean you run it for me? And they said well we run kickstarter in what I found out was this company had made a had basically made a place for itself by not doing anything on their own. All they did was contact other kick. Starters and say will handle shipping will handle your answering of questions. We'll handle the behind the scenes and you just give us the stuff in will basically give you some I guess would say some percentage of the Indo. Now I don't know what the percentage is or how the split was something like that did not appeal to me. I wanted to do it myself. But I found it interesting that they had lodged in and I went back and looked kickstarter in their massive. Now many of the kick starters you see are not actually run by the people themselves. They're run by this company. That has sort of ingratiate themselves as a middleware. Almost you know how you get a video game where you have a developer create an engine and they need something to work so the middleware solution for something. That's really what this company does. And whether you agree with disagree with outage does just show that where. There's a gap somebody will fill it and kickstarter has been filled with a lot of big companies sort of pushing around the smaller companies. Because it's really hard to fight against that and my overall opinion of it is I would certainly like these big companies to go about it in the normal way and see the smaller companies The people who are trying to put together almost the indy style. Get sort of a bigger purchase. But you know what? It's worked for INDIES AS WELL SO. I can't really say it's unfair. I can just say it's not necessarily exactly how it would like. It's a little bit like patron to me. Patron has always been a thing where you're creating something and people have an initial idea of what your you've created for a great deal of time and they wanted then support you from that point on but now we're seeing people who have nothing just say. I'm creating a video game channel a review Chen or podcast or something like that. Here's our patron and you're like why have no clue what you're actually supporting? I don't even know about. I don't know who you are for the most part. And so we're seeing this also roll right into patron into these others now. Some people have talked about subscribe star and You know should I have an account there I do? But it's actually never paid me once the entire Situation they have some restrictions for getting paid. So I I made one and I've never really been happy with their situation. What's interesting to me is. This is no lie so I was doing incredibly well on Patriot and then patriots on canceled a couple high premier Patriot accounts due to various political reasons and I ended up in one month. Losing two thousand patrons not because of anything I did not because of unhappiness but sheerly because they did not like the platform this also then occurred later when Patriot without warning anybody decided they were going to move the fee for the bank transactions from the patron crater myself to the patrons this also resulted in losing over a thousand patrons. It was crazy I went from being one of the number. One patron You know groups to having it cut beyond one half simply by the decisions made by a patron or patron. Now I WANNA make sure people realize every company does this. It's not just patron I should probably you know reached out prior to hearing some of these things happening especially on the removal of some patrons because we do know the patron was looking at them and said you know guys. Don't leave just because of that but a lot of people have and You know it's hurt a lot of channels who were long-term vested in because I'm not really an outrage channel right because I'm not really a channel that is hinging on politics or anything like that you just don't get the subscriber base that you normally do so it's been an interesting ride for kickstarter. It's been an interesting ride for Patriots and Subscribe Star and all of these different services. When it comes to kick start I did want to talk about an amazing one that I really like as a Board Game Fan which we will certainly talk about here in a bit. There is one particular thing that I am really stunned at on kickstarter and I would. I would love you. Guys check out hero forge now hero forge is and they just opened up. A new kickstarter disagreed or green with that. I'm not gonNA talk about. I just want to talk about the kickstarter what they do is they have the hero Forge website you go to their website and you create three d miniatures. They print out for you in various different types even bronze. It's pretty crazy but it's never been painted right and a lot of us. Just don't have the time. The patients or the overall skill or even color theory when it comes to painting. We just don't have it. So what hero forge is done? Is they've worked behind the scenes with various companies and technologies. And they've figured out a way to make painted three D. printed miniatures. And this is on kickstarter right now. Fucking incredible they even show you the difference between a three D. painted miniature and painted by hand miniatures. That their own artists can do for you. This is a service that they also pay and I gotta say for me at least the three D. printed ones. I would like better anyway. Not only because yes. They lack some of the detail but it would be cheaper by a good amount and also they're not bad they're not bad at all and they're certainly better than I would say seventy percent of people who paint miniatures and that's amazing to me. It's amazing you guys need to check it out here forge. They're not cheap. But this is something that you can get them for cheap if you want them unpainted if you want the painted ones. They'll be more expensive. And then as that. Kickstarter goes forward and it becomes a major part of their website. You'll be able to do it now. Ordered from hero forge a couple times because we play miniature games. I I'm a big fan of game. Called HERO CLICKS HERO CLICKS. A miniature game that comes with pre painted miniatures and the rules are actually on the the the actual dais itself for the miniature. Meaning you don't need cards with you. So what that means is you're able to actually play with all your hit points and everything on a spin -able dial that the character rests on so if your character gets hurt by one hit point you just turn the dial one and that'll tell you what the characters new movement speed their attacks by their defense speed and also any special moves. They have their attack as well and I really do dig that. It's become probably my favorite miniatures game of all time. But what's really cool is you can also print out your own dials if you WanNa make a character so you could technically if you wanted. Print out a hero forge character. Get a dial made for you and put that together. Make your own hero clicks characters. You wouldn't be able to use them in competition. But you'd be able to use those hero. Clicks you can find from whiz kids and WHISKAS was originally created by the battle at crater Jordan Wiseman who created battle tech on the P. C. Just recently and has done a bunch of different games there that guy we got to interview him at. Gd See in two thousand fifteen. I believe sit down with and talk to him for an hour. Great Guy really one of those crazy dudes. Who's done so much? He Ran Microsoft game studios for a little while he was the one who brought in some of the Mech warrior style stuff into the xbox stable of IP's he created battle tech originally as the board game. And then like I said. Additionally created whiz kids and created hero clicks and went on from there major night is the original that came out with all of the stats on the dial itself. So if you get a chance check those out. There is a very cool. Also get a chance. Check out hero forge. I'm really an Inouye my sponsored. We're GONNA talk about sponsors action a little bit but these are things that actually do believe in. This is a bigger company. But it's doing something that I feel is going to cost a lot of money for them. Shut up dog. You're fine sorry about that. Is going to cost a lot of money for them and I think that really makes sense for people to support them if they want this kind of stuff because board games and Video Games. I feel have a big interconnection. There is something between those two that you can really feel the statistics in the way the rules are done are different than role playing games. And so I like this connection. It's funny to go back a little bit and talk about the kickstarter and doing things on your own. This is something that if you're thinking creating your own webpage. Creighton your own review channel create neuron preview channel crate near on twitch channel. That you probably run into. I like to do everything on my own. At least the first time one of the reasons why his I believe that if you know what kind of output is required from the original person you can get a better deal if you hire out for for example. If I write and edit on a web page I would know what writing and editing might take and then you're able to. I think easily demonstrate that to somebody that you WanNa hire to do those things and that same comes for anything if you decide to hire an editor for your youtube channel by doing it yourself for a little while you may know what that requires so going back and talking about this. I want to talk about this kickstarter for a second so we decided to kick starter right. And it is wildly successful for us. It's not money wise which I'll get to in a bit but it was wildly successful for a small channel. I got to work with one of the best artists I've ever seen. I was just randomly looking around artists and I found IAGO Candia I think is his name and put the Description down this has been about five years ago so I apologize if I pronounce his name wrong but I'll definitely put his bio up in the description or on my twitter. This guy he he was right on with what I wanted and what I was doing. What my game is is a is a game where fantasy and reality mix together for various reasons and I wanted a deck a plane. Deca bicycle player that played well had good inks but at the same time had some unique art on them so I ended up creating all the art myself for the pips. Which are your your hearts and your clubs and we for clubs. We used atomic explosions with gears in the center. Because there's a bit of a steam punk vibe for this world And just really went completely crazy for the diamonds. They're basically jewels soldiers that are dripping. We did some really insane shit. Then I had the auto go in there and draw me tons of art and it costs a good amount of money up front but I was really vested in this. I thought that he would be it. Was something that you know. You have that creative moment and I was at the time currently working prior to Youtube and I just really wanted to do something. I felt that this was something that would be very fun. We put it up on Youtube and it was wildly successful wildly successful for us so we ended up getting probably about twenty five thousand orders now to put that into perspective. When you order a bicycle card deck order from bicycle you have to make sure the arts perfect you have to make sure everything works in their particular color formats. You send it to him. You work with a bicycle. Basically bicycle artist. Who Walks you through steps you need to? You need to make what's interesting. There is. Diego works in one particular style but the artists that actually work for bicycle work in a different one. So you have to go back and you have to work between the artist in yourself but we got it all figured out and we get these things printed up and as it goes forward stretch goals become a thing so we had stretch goals. We had everything from You know lacquered plaques to card boxes we made ourselves I'm a big fan of making things myself and we put this together and they they come now to get everybody to sort of understand. What an order from bicycle cards looks like. It was a nine foot by nine foot by three foot. Tall box filled with playing card decks. That's what it was. It was so heavy it could not be put inside the house because it was so heavy. It would've actually damaged a house being in a small area so we had to put this into four different places for different temperature controlled places to make sure those cards being damaged. Start putting things together. It was an absolute blast though it was one of those times where I was working with family members and there was a real joining together of teamwork and this is something that since I was young. I've always been such a big fan of which is interesting. Because most of the sports other than football that I've done have been solo martial arts included. You're on a team shared people in your gym. But it's just you out there right unless you're in Russia where there's three martial arts fighting three martial arts is just you both and so. I went out there and jumped in and started packaging. These up and what that meant was every Tuesday and Thursday. We would go to the. Us Postal Service box when it was dead quiet and just fill that automatic. Ori Machine With our orders just box after box after box and we package them box after box after box. This took weeks. Luckily we actually did everything on time. I think you know you get a couple where the box doesn't show up. Because the their they order something from Argentina. And maybe it doesn't get there get stuck in customs so you ship them some more for free no big deal. We made almost nothing. I I'm I legitimately believe after the art after the shipping costs. 'cause you eat some of those and after the re the reasons and all that stuff you legitimately make no money or very little money and in fact. I think it was a tax write off when we were done or very close to it as in we had so many outgoing costs that by the time it was done. There just wasn't anything from it but it was one of those times where it didn't matter. It was a blast to work together. And do that thing and it dawned on me when I was doing that that. That's always what what. I've been always been somebody who likes the individual individual sports but I love the teamwork aspect and this is something that I've loved like I said since I was young joining together with other people setting up call centers around the world. This was something I like the teamwork that was in a center when people got along because I always made sure that the teamwork is what mattered. That people had good time. There were always having fun and I really liked it. So we got done with this kickstarter and you know we were GonNa do another one. We got contacted by company. Who's like hey we'll do this for you and I gotTA admit I probably would've done it. You know that changed my opinion of things and it's changed my opinions of went forward into Youtube and And twitch of what you can do with a team versus what you can do with yourself which I'll get to in the next couple of months. Some things I'm thinking about. You guys have already seen better with friends. That's just sort of the first step things. Go a little slow with because I did have something. Come up last year for two and a half months. I really wasn't able to get to the computer. This is something you know I don't really believe in blathering out your personal stuff It wasn't something directly near me but it was something that happened within my family and it was something that I just didn't feel needed to be out there and you get a lot of heat for it. I got a lot of heat for that. I still get heat for it. Occasionally where people feel really entitled to something. They feel very entitled. They're like how dare you not do this thing? And you didn't tell us you weren't and you're like but dude. I've said it like fifty five times. It was in every single podcast even at the end of some reviews. I set up. Probably wouldn't get to this even at you know if you're a big fan. How did you miss so many alerts and obviously when somebody says there are Big Fan? It really probably doesn't mean they watch everything right. We know that some you guys see a video and you're probably not going to click it because I'm not interested in that video or a hate carrick. Whatever so it was an interesting time in those two months and I wasn't able to hit everything and I really started to think about teamwork in that in that time period where I was like you know if I was able to put a team together Some people who may be would help twitch at the same time as me or when I'm not available This might alleviate some of these things that'll be something you'll see in the future from me Probably won't be as much on Youtube. That'll be just my stuff. But that's why you see the diverse Diversification sometimes. Because I just I was able to put out one video I think in the rest of the time was just. I just had really access to audio stuff and I did. Some podcast and a lot of people got mad. A lot of people are newer. Fans they don't know that this channel started out with a ton of videos everything from let's plays to podcast and so they're like. How dare you switch away from reviews? And it's like no you have no you have no clue. I actually leaned it down to just reviews. Because I've been so busy and it's been an interesting ride to see who's really a fan and who's just sort of a fair weather fan and how they'll deal back to you and this is something that when you're out there you're thinking of starting youtube or twitter Sorry Youtuber Twitchy. You really do need to be cognizant of some of these things that pop up moving on from there. Let's talk about a couple interesting bits. Let's talk about looking at my list. Here let's talk about epoch store shenanigans when it comes to just the way everything's done so epoch store has been getting a lot of exclusives and you know. I can only cover what I get and luckily I do have a contact there who likes the reviews and give them to even though there's been a couple of games that are really in like but whatever they're cool with it but it's funny because whenever you do an epic review get a lot of people saying well. This should be not a wait for a sale at should be awake for steam which is really sort of a magical statement because waiting for steam doesn't fix the issues that caused it to be a wait for a sale. People get really clamped about something. They forget that steam good old games any other service that doesn't mean the game will magically be better wait for sale to me as wait for a sale regardless of the price and I think a lot of people want me to review. The epoch store already reviewed the epic store. I fucking hate it and it's been an interesting ride to see some of those people who would really rather nobody have inner any information on the game versus something covered on the epic store. They really would you start to see it. And you're like you know what I think. These people would rather have people go out and buy it without knowing it's bad just so they can prove a point that it's on the epoch store and to me that's even that's that is well of course. I'M A Game Review Channel. Not a store review channel. We do those on the podcasts. And I've Made no bones about it But it made no bones about steam. Either I know a lot of people hate me for my dislike for steam. Steam has been nothing but a travesty Especially because it was the only company out there doing this kind of stuff and they just continually did not fixed themselves and then epic comes along with more money for devs. And I just can't really fall to DEB for going with more money And and getting a better return and my hope is that steam. Resets that so a lot of people you know. They'll they'll get mad about that but just be aware that when we get a code for is what I get a code for. The same thing comes up with switch. I get a lot of people saying you don't cover switch ever and I'm like why did strange Odyssey what do you mean or stranger's wrath? Hd What do you mean like Oh you did? I didn't see it. Yeah okay well. How many other things have you not seen? A de the ultimate alliance game one of my favorite games of the year and that was on the switch. So you never quite know. But it's interesting to me that a lot of people would rather have no data out there versus data on something they don't like and it's interesting also because that's actually mimicked on xbox and ps four if you cover two or three. Ps four games in a row. You'll get xbox fans who were like you just do. Ps Four Games. Why don't you skip four game and you're like really you'd rather have the channel just flounder around so that we can prove some kind of magical point that really in no way shape or form matters or yeah people say hey. This is on three platforms. Why'd you review it on a console not the BC? It's like you don't understand man. You get what you get you can in a preference but if somebody says pc or nothing you go with PC. Somebody says xbox nothing youth xbox if somebody says switzer nothing goes switch it. It's something that I've explained multiple times but you still get fans who are really like I say a lot of times. Are they really game? Fans I mean are they because they find a great deal to bitch about but not a great deal to celebrate. Celebrate the game's being covered in. Oh Yeah it's on three systems they instead bitch. You covered withdrawn that. They didn't actually want it. Covered on which to me indicates a big gray area behind their actual stance on games themselves. And I don't know maybe that's just me. I'd like to know what you guys think. You can always post on the patron where this'll be posted. You can post in a you know you can leave me. A voice message on anchor You can leave me any kind of stuff on twitter If you agree or disagree with these are just the thoughts I have. I find it incredibly odd overall and I find it almost like a two kids at Christmas. Both get a gift and one kid's Christmas present is better and so they won kids jealous and they're like your your present sucks and just like that such an odd way of doing things also a bad delivery service which epic is Which ubisoft can be which pretty much? Ea origin has been many times. It really doesn't matter because I'm reviewing the game and the game is what matters to me. I think a game review channel if I started just saying okay we're automatically not GonNa Review Games on an entire platform. There would be a number of games out there that you would have to go to other people which is fine if you want to go to other people but if you don't and you and you do actually WanNa know what I cover like sound music and voice. I think that's sort of important to cover but again I'd like to know what you think. And what you think is the next part. Let's talk a little bit about blizzard. So this has been a huge deal. You got warcraft. Three Re forged refunded version. Whatever you WANNA call it coming out. It's got all kinds of issues guys and one of the things that POPs up. We can talk about that but we already know what those issues are. We already know the initial Cabbie odds of getting this game which is that not only does it have its own issues but it actually removes options from the other version. That people actually wanted to play. It's really just messed up in so many different ways. But let's talk about something that I see a lot of times that I both agree with but also WANNA add some clarity to in that. This company is not who at once? What and we can say this comes from everybody comes down to Sony. Has they've said that people said the Sega people certainly said at about rare people said about any game company that makes Or Develops Games being purchased by big publisher. Oh they're not this game company anymore. They're not this and that one of the ones that POPs up a lot of times is actually bungee and I sort of want. I don't WANNA set the record straight but I want to add a little bit clarity. In particular about Bungee Bungie was purchased out from under Microsoft. Buy Them. They purchased their way out. They got out of that deal so did bazaar by the way who's now gone and of course by aware who's now gone on to being gone but you have these situations. There were rumors that pretty much been solidified. Now that there were huge issues at Bungie prior to Bungee leaving that had nothing to do with Microsoft did did have to do a lot with just the overall way in which they wanted to deliver games and I think we sort of saw that in their later games and we certainly saw in destiny one and two and all the initial problems that they've had with those games and you gotta remember guys. I like those games I do. And I think they're shooting can sometimes be spectacular but those are games like a lot of games. We get these that are always held down just clogged down by the undead fingers of mistakes. It's like they're trying to run through that graveyard of old games that have failed. They're doing well. They're the heroes. They're running through blowing people way but they make little mistakes slows them down. Boom that hand failure grabs him and pulls them down into the graveyard and they die just like the rest. We see this with a lot of titles and we certainly have seen it with destiny. We've seen it destiny to destiny. One had deal. See that you couldn't even really play if you didn't have other deals can mess and these kinds of things existed within bungee and of course activision. I WANNA make sure people don't think for a second. I'm denying that activision had a part in these but you can tell even internally that Bundy's had their own issues and bio wears the same way and one of the things I want to remind people about is these games and these game development companies are never really the same after any game they ever do. And there's a reason why this is and let me break off into a side conversation shift for a moment when you're setting up centers around the world and you putting together teams. This is something that I've done for over twenty years putting teams together. You put a leader in charge of that team in. That leader is really the reflection of the entire team. They will go to that leader and everything will be filtered through that leader to you if you're above the leader so you put a leader in charge of metrics in charge of rules Who's got a very good stance on that. You may get things that hit the rules in the metrics really well but you may not get something that's as matter of fact maybe as customer services you'd like in the opposite go holds true as well. It's very difficult to find somebody who is good at both who is good at metrics and good at customer service who can nail both things and really make it so that we do our job. We don't break the rules but at the same time when we're not breaking the rules for somebody they still somehow leave happy with their service even if they weren't really happy with the outcome so these are difficult things to do. And I've done it all my life and I feel that when you look at game companies we see the same thing I have seen when you set up centers when you set up any group and team when even one person leaves the entire way in which things work change the if you remove an artist one artist if they leave then you'll get a change to how that artist group works. Do they have to do? They spend three months getting to know the new artist and their workflow. And how they do things. And what they react to positive negatively when it comes to issues with their work or issues with other people's Work Egos step above that when you look at the managers and the leads. How do they handle things when one of them leaves how? How does that work flow adjust? How does the new person coming in? Learn the current workflows as well as just the current. Hr rules in the current rules around the company. How do they understand the fluids spirit that really exists within a game company? And this is something that we've seen with rare in particular for me rare as one of those companies that you can look back and see some of these issues. Were going to occur regardless because some of those people were gonNA come and go and when they do that spirit changes and I can see people say no. That's not true while tell you this. Get A D. and D. Group. Let's let's break off and talk about something you may do. Let's say you play air soft. Let's say you play Dungeons and dragons. Let's say you do martial arts in a group? A team effort. Let's say you have Jim and you go there. Let's say you ride motocross with friends. It doesn't matter what you do have a fucking book club. It doesn't matter or a podcast on Youtube. When one person leaves you cannot tell me that the entire core dynamic does not adjust it absolutely does because you cannot prove one without instantly proving the opposite of the other so you cannot say it didn't change because if you do say that then you can say you could interchange anybody and there would be no issue. This is not like taking the exact same gear and throwing it into a machine after the old gear wears out and even that if you really understand the weight gears work you would understand that old gear as it slowly wore out slightly adjusted the ratio of everything. So when you put the new gear in things actually did change. That is what people do not want to admit with these companies and people are gears. And I don't mean to say that they're you know cog in the machine of this shitty industry because there's many industries where this happens in those gears and cogs are vital and they do a great job and many times are treated spectacularly. Many times are not but I mean as a comparison there in their their switched out. Things do subtly change. You can't just inject somebody into an amazing work environment and have them suddenly exactly mimic the person prior you can't it doesn't work that way. They are humans. It doesn't work that way again. Even machines it doesn't work that way so I think one of the things that comes up a lot of times is oh this company would have been better here. They're probably I will absolutely not say that. This negates it but I will say that in a lot of these companies if you go back and look if you go back and track or if you talk to people who've left the industry or talked people left that game. There were other issues behind the scenes. That were cropping up and we see that with bio where we absolutely I think. See it with by aware. You can tell that there were little issues cropping up as they went forward with their narratives and their ideas and what they forgot what they decided to add and didn't add to their games too. Where when we finally get to now a lot of people anybody who really likes to track things could probably track a bit of a downward trajectory when it comes to the original stuff that they created another thing is this and people do not get this when these companies were created. They were created in a time. That was far different. A time were role playing was still considered nerd fodder when people were more into second edition. Dnd and all those kind of things and so moving over to a video game sometimes. They didn't want that. They wanted something more free form. And now it's you know three point five four and fifth edition. Dnd and so. There's more of an overlap. There some people see a board game in their inspired by that these new board games versus the old GROG NAR board games. Where might take you ten years to figure out the fuck and rules? Where here unless it's fantasy flight you can pretty much figure out the rules by right away. These things will change your your inspirations. Change is the absolutely change and those type of people that come into these new industries. They bring their own spirit into it. Because let's say you tried to pretend to company is amazing open to ideas and somebody leaves. Then guess what. Guess what the new person coming in to the company can bring their ideas and those ideas may change the subtle way in which the company works. You cannot say it's one way and not the other. It does not work that way. You cannot sit here and say that this system and way in the way in which it works is open to input all this kind of stuff and so a new person coming in have no input and nothing will change. That is not how it works. Never has never will anybody who's managed people knows that that doesn't work and anybody. Who's managed to game will tell you? That certainly does not work one of the reasons why I want to bring this up is because we talked about this by wear hired some Mo designers prior to dragon age inquisition. Coming out. Now I was back running the channel and I did some podcast about this. Sorry if I moved the Mike you might hear that and I did some podcasts. About this podcast about you know that my personal belief was them higher in these. Emo designers meant that they're going to be some emo style. Trappings Within Dragon aging physician. We get dragon aging physician. And it's an emo that single player and you can't tell me it's not now. People have liked dragon aging physician. And I'm replaying at currently with some odds including I gotta give him a shout-out Nexus. Mods has a maude that adjusts the camera angle and puts it like sky room very close and I have enjoyed that game ten times more using that camera. Maude then initially We can talk about F. O. V. Camera MODs later because I do believe that camera angles can subtly change the way in which you interact with the character and the story making feel either closer farther away it it did. It just changed the way that game was made and this is something I talked about prior years ago. This is something we're seeing with ubisoft. Ubisoft said we're changing our editorial team. Because we've we've had some issues with the way these current games. I gotTa tell you guys. The editorial team is not really my issue with the far cry or assassin's creed games. It's not it's my game play issues that I have. I don't really see a problem with far cry. Fives overall story and ideas. I didn't love them but I sorta dug some of those characters. That really wasn't the issue. The issue was overwriting. Spawns gameplay issues where you get in a car and everybody fucking know who you were. It's like you could fuck a duck in one town and everybody in the town instantly new you did and Sky Room not that. There's a duck fucking Maude. But if there was a prophet downloaded. But you can't do that. So what we see is them cherry changing the narrative direction of their games. But I'm not a hundred percent. Sure that really means anything because when you look back you find out far primal which I believe is one of the better far cry and I know that that's not it. It seems to be mimic now as people have gone back to play it. But let's ignore if you like it or not. We'll just say it did feel different whether you liked it or not. Do you know how far cry prime was made? Three teams decided that they were GonNa go off and come up with basic prototyping for different styles of ubisoft games that were based in far cry. They came back and the team voted on which one they like. The most they liked far cry primal now. I don't know what the other two were but I like that idea. I think that's a great idea and a company like ubisoft has that ability many companies. Do not but I think that that is a stellar way to do things and I don't necessarily think this editorial team change on Ubisoft position will change that it could change the way in which they deliver stories which I think for some people might be the biggest issue but I really don't a lot of times I hear people saying Oh. I hated the story in this game. Most of them didn't have any real issues with stories. In a lot of the main games they had issues more long lines with the way the game plate. And I think that's actually telling in what will see in the future from those kind of companies so moving on from there to answer a coup- a couple of shorter patron questions to action. Sections ARE SAXON SAYS. Been debating for a while now and grabbing days gone the. Ps four in lieu of that. Is there anything you could recommend? If you have an xbox and game pass I would say checkout state of Decay Siddique one and two both have their issues but one of the things that state of decay does that. Almost no other game has done when it comes to the Zombie. Way in which you play. And you incorporate The character teamwork in a game. It adds these random skills and traits every single character including things they like and dislike and how they act and it really does cause you to believe that they're true team members. The original did this in spectacular fashion Even though they patched out one of the best parts of the game which was a simulation. Pardon I've talked about this all the time but I'm gonNA mention it here. The original game had it. So that if you pause the game or if you close game and played a different game and came back they simulated everything that could have happened. Prior to you leaving and coming back and you could actually lose a character it would say like so and so died while trying to get salvage and I loved that instead of patching into an option. They patched it out of the because people complained. Personally I felt that kind of ironman situation would be more acceptable now with dark souls. Dow Games and that kind of thing But they didn't put it into dark souls to however are sorry they didn't put it into state of decay to however. I think that there is a lot to like their despite not running the best you get a couple of friends together and just go out and play. I do like that game. It's really Microsoft's be team kind of thing Undead labs has never really been able to deliver on their complete idea. I think when it comes to their attack and what they wanna do but personally just for me when it comes to fun factor which is a big deal for games at that price at the price that you could probably get it now. I think it's worth actually checking out other games in that section. There really isn't a ton. Days gone is an open world huge Zombie game so I guess the only other one you can say is dead rising. I've had my issues with dead rising some sequels I liked more or less than others actually enjoyed four because I felt that they sort of made it a little bit tighter. They did get rid of some stuff that really liked. But this is something you'll see that I do with games. A Lotta Times is a I definitely will compare it to the prior titles when I review a game I personally have this in my guidelines that are reviewed the game based not only on where it is in a sequel. So if it's one two three or four how builds on one two and three or takes away in that can certainly heard it but also just what it offers alone because I think that is important. A lot of people maybe just brand new got an xbox one and so they're like hey. I WANT TO JUMP INTO DEAD RISING. And you're like okay. We'll dead rising. Four is the new one. And they're thinking of jumping into that and it's like how is that game overall by itself to just play. Is it fun to play alone ignoring the others? And then also you have to give some context and say but one two and three offered these things in four dozen tour four offers this one. Two and three don't so that would be another one. I would suggest at least checking out you know. The reviews were not in love with that. But I don't think people realize that with dead rising there. There's always been some concern about every single title in. Dead rising history. Everyone number one came out. People weren't a big fan of the timer. That occurred number two came out. They weren't a big fan of the character then. They did case zero than they did. Three which was co-op with a completely different characters. Well than they did four with Frank West but it was actually ty Olsson. The actor who took over Frank West now. I think he did a good job of the voice. It wasn't the original voice over but again you're talking about a time where that guy was only in one game and then aside game so I was okay with that switch but again there's a couple of games out there but not anything that really fits perfectly with days. Gone Days. Gone is first party. Triple A. Almost game for Sony where I think those others are double a Or AAA Elliott says. I'm not sure if you've had an opinion on the matter. Video Games as stress relievers. I've heard plague. Inc has become very popular in China. Due to the current virus crisis nine no similar cases from friends and family returned to games especially mobile games with simple systems at times when they had to deal with tremendous stress. Do you think more hardcore games can fill such a role as well? That's a good. It's a good question and yes but I think that that's not a question that really would ever be a no. It just depends on the person You do ask in the next part of the question. Can you share some personal experiences? So my Ridge in my original answer is yes of course. Hardcore Games can do that. I know people who play dark souls for relaxation which wouldn't really work for me but I get why they do that. And it's a system that they're accustomed to and people don't realize that what is very difficult for one person can be actually quite easy for another not only based on skill on pure skill but also just on memorization of the systems at play and understanding how to mini Max. Something and work with something when it comes to my personal experience. I can't say really hardcore games. I got into maybe a serious SAM on a hard core level I saw I certainly enjoyed. I absolutely love Armagh at the highest difficulties but I will say that I don't mind playing a game on hard difficulty to have fun into me. Fun Really is relaxing if that makes sense so hardcore or an easy game. I'll do both. I do like to do things outside of gaming. I'm a big fan of doing martial arts. I teach I also enjoy lifting weights. I enjoy air. Soft a great deal and those kinds of things getting out from behind the desk less so than I would like but as much as I possibly can. I also do a lot of friend things. I think. A lot of people friends. I don't necessarily turned directly back into the the the overall entertainment avenue. When I'm stressed that I normally would go to for work and I didn't do that. Prior to reviewing games by the way so nothing changed in fact a lot of people. Ask Me what changed between reviewing games and not reviewing games and I can tell you this I play. I play actual games less now than I did when I was not reviewing the reason why is because I was working job and I would have to set exact times down so I would almost feel like I need to play because I have to work tomorrow and need to play because after work tomorrow now would continually come up so I put that time down in. That would playtime when it comes to reviews. There might be a week or two where I get nothing. I've had people be like man. You Review so many games. How do you do it? And I'm like go back and look yes. There have been times where there's been two or three and I've stayed up twenty four hours in a row but that was stuff that I did normally on a weekend prior to reviewing for me really it's been playing a little less actually And doing more stuff with you guys on patron in the discord and and enjoying it but just it's just sort of been. I think when it comes down to a stress relief I've I've always taken stuff into this job that I had from other jobs in other things that I enjoy doing. If you guys can hear the fan noise I'm GonNa move that seal hear a little bit of just want to move that a little bit because it was blown on the Mike. I apologize if you hear a little bit. I'll try to clean that up next up. Jc Travis Butler says and this is the last one. Not sure if there's been asked before but what's an item from a video game you'd like to bring into the real world? Ashley's but in mass effect one that's an ASS Let's see what would I like to bring in a car? You Know I. This is something I always feel bad. Always feel bad when I discuss these kinds of things because I always feel like shortchange the answer. Let me explain myself just for second. I don't usually think like this guys when I was younger. Maybe I did a little bit more but I don't usually think like there's a sort I really like. I want this in the real world. There's this thing I like. If if in fact the only thing I can think of would be something like the hollow deck from from Star Trek. Right I really enjoyed that but I don't really think in that way. Oh Hey you know what look. It's time for a break if you were just listening to me a fool of myself. 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So have you been here for the last forty minutes and you've listened to me blather on now. I've got a visitor so it should be at least ten times more entertaining than it was. Let us begin If you don't know who ozzy is I'll put a link in the description On spotify and I tunes and anchor and well wherever else we we everything Yahoo? So you've been out of games this entire time And we missed the blizzard or you miss the blizzard discussion. Did you want to other about the the warcraft stuff? Any thought honestly at this point. You know it's blizzard I mean they've been they've been they've been fucking up for the past year. Seems like you know what it feels like to me is that a is better than blizzard now and Bethesda or some point. Something's going on here Man Ryan. Ea Star Wars. Everybody loved the. I mean they've been they've been They think they realized how terrible or ship they were right and now blizzard is going through that phase. I think everyone goes through that you know. I don't know what you want to call it a like a midlife crisis for companies. I don't know what's going on a blizzard fucking up hard and it sucks to. Because I was really looking forward to work after the reform warcraft. Three was one of my favorite games going up and all the different game modes on it and the Mazda. People made you know it. It's Pond Dodo. Which which made a whole new no Game category which is you know. Mambas in a legal legends blew up and a lot of other games because of that so was it was a really good game back in the Dan. It sucks because Dow's looking forward to the potential. It had with new custom games and something something to look forward to your they botched the I saw. Salka cut scene in the new one in the cut scene and one that they showed and bliss con man like That sucks sucks. Both we gotta do. Yeah what can you say yet? Dude with warcraft. I mean I didn't think about it that. Ea So I know people bitch about gay but you gotTa look at you and go okay. Those people may bitch. But when you talk to indy companies. They love working with the A. He is like amazing for smaller. Companies allotted smaller developers have been very happy with What was that unraveled? Wasn't that the yarn one where you're like. I think your character was called Yardeni in fact if I did I did. I do here even respond. They give them complete creative rights or whatever they can do whatever the hell they want right. Yes so I mean I I just don't Know Dude. I don't. I don't know what's going on with blizzard. You are a much bigger fan of blizzard than I am. In fact everybody knows a bigger fan than I am I'd like Diablo two. That was my first missing. The other two are the best game the put a and I spent you know a couple years of my maturity burning away and wow so those two and I wasn't a starcraft fan. I know that's like sacrilege to most people but Yeah you out of all. People liked world warcraft. One on the Sega Saturn it. Was They actually warcraft? Orcs human I. Yes thank you got them up and then And then do you know. What do you know what got me back into? Them was playing a different game by bungie. Myth the myth series. But I've never played never heard of the Dude so Bungee Myth One and then myth to sold lighter and three myth three might be so blind but anyway they made three games. That are fucking incredible and those got me back into into blizzard. Actually because I started you know you get tired of the same artigas game after well so Gebran But Dude I don't know I don't know anything about blizzards fan bases blizzards fan base. The type of fan base that if they like Patchett like let's say Rainbow six siege. Or what's the other game? We always talk about. That really turned no man's sky right so What we hate you. Fire or We'll see a thieves. Yes Eve's absolutely Thieves I mean it's hard to tell because So so what I what I see going on as a blizzard fans are split up. I don't think I don't think one person is just a fan of all their games right. I feel like an overwatch. Fan is an over watch them while fans awhile fan. I feel like they don't mix up often okay but sometimes they do now The thing with that is if they if if blizzard a patron expansion that's terrible Their they're player base increases a little bit for the first month and then people realize that it's Shit and start leaving so no one's really that loyal I don't think in my opinion But they do keep coming back whenever they put out something new so Diablo for you. Better Bet your ass. Everyone's GonNa play that game where everyone a lot of people are going to try that GAM. If it's not completely botched right off the start in an so. I feel like with blizzard anytime. They put something. New People are still going to try it no matter what they've done wrong. No yes that's what. I think I was talking to a developer last weekend about success and one of the things he said is developers are having a very hard time now identifying true success versus streamer success and I was like true. Like what do you mean he said well? A streamer doesn't care if the game is good many times People think they do but a majority of streamers if it will capture them two hundred thousand viewers ship. They're not gonNA give a shit right and so he was saying we don't know it. It's it's awesome for PR. But it's horrendous for feedback because you have no idea if it like if it's good if the things are working because some streamers will tell you and others will just rage about shit because they're bad you know or or maybe it's too easy we we've had that where somebody rages because it's too easy. That can happen. Where like a you know. There's no there's no risk and I've had that games but It was an interesting discussion because he was. He's he's left. The industry Well mostly but he was just describing saying that like one of the biggest problems they have is like The split fan like you said where a company may have three. Ip's but those Ip's don't meet up a fan wise and the the problem is is positively does not meet up fan wise but negatively does for example. If I P one does awesome it can leach it. Can it can leach type two but it is not promised to but if I p one has an issue. Ip To will be negatively impacted by it that makes sense that makes them that makes a Lotta Sense. Yeah Yeah Yeah. That's that makes a Lotta Sense. 'cause they fuck up with one game people are going to look at the other game and you know trash to boycott them or whatever but it had something they something. Good in one game. People aren't really GONNA do anything. Yeah Mental Lotta. Speculation is if you charge. Sixty bucks should be good so if it's not I'm GonNa rush in everything you do. I guess so the expectation is that it's good from from the go which I think is ours as well but It's just interesting to talk to about that. And then talk to a publisher and there. I mean and some debt most deb's or publishers at one point most publishers deb's most deb's or indie than their triple a. then they're back and forth and it's so difficult. I think to sort of get a dividing line So you've been out and about jump onto outside Youtube stuff you've been out and about and that means you probably haven't been working out. I need to go back to working out man. I you were right before you let. I thought when the last time we talked which is about a half a month ago. You were at least starting. Weren't you starting ship going on man you this month to fuck going on at twenty twenty? I don't know what is happening right bad month. We we. It's been a bad mother. We lost Legend we you know We a lot of Shit's going on some chaotic shit in my life as well. I have no. What's going on but hopefully stabilizes because it's you know we're off to a rocky start man Game delays to. Yeah but you know Such is life sometimes. But hopefully you know when when when your life goes into chaos Sometimes it can be hard to get everything back on track. Yeah but once you do does feel good so I'm in the process right now of just kind of stabilizing everything. Are you start going in the next two weeks? You think active Jim Volume like tomorrow pretty much. I'm planning on like this week. Yeah cool So I need to. I need to not say okay the next week or anything. I just do it. You know in just go and It's just hard for me because I like everything so if I'm going to the gym I want like to eat healthy. I want everything. It'll be organized to be on track with work. I want to be on track with life like I am. One of those people can't do one thing right and like seven other things wrong right right. I maybe it's too much but I like everything to be in order so so a question that popped up about this and I answered it a little bit but we'll go over. The answer again was thinking about Weird Or sorry this this John DOE says. How's your gaming snack? Habits changed over the years. And so I'll repeat my story and then you can tell yours if it's changed but so my story. This is no lyman so you know me like I'm I I've loved. I've always loved running and I love stupid running uncomfortable running so I don't need to go outside. I like to run on a treadmill facing the wall. I've always liked that and I know people are like that's the word it's so uncomfortable and I like that being uncomfortable. A kind of like it more than running outside exactly in so. I'm I was running. You know thirty probably twenty to thirty miles a week and so in martial arts if you're sparring you don't WanNa go up and down. Wait too much because it's not fair to the other person if you're like come in twelve pounds you like on. Saturday. You're like let's brawl in your twelve pounds overweight but you're still batch sparring partner so on the weekends if I'd Lost Weight Gain Weight and it was game days as well so Cadiz and vans awhile. Both guys that I've talked about on the channel. You met comedies. They would come in and I would have a entire gallon of mint chocolate chip ice cream. Two bags of chips full bags on this date and about three packs of Diet Soda. Now people laugh about the Diet. But I don't like sugary soda. I never have N- fucks up teeth. I think it feels weird but dude my diet and then I would eat fried chicken on Sunday. It was the worst diet. I mean my wife. When she knew me she was like. How are you not six thousand pounds like it'll be like well work it off in the week in of course as you get older you Gotta. Watch that Shit. Right metabolism going the dump but I would say that was I that. Might that's changed. Don't do that anymore. Because I was waking up on Sunday with a food hangover most likely sodium where I was waking up and I was like I feel like another field yet. You know the PA is and the fucking your body's carrying five pounds extra water weight and you're like what's wrong. I hate that feeling dude. It's terrible but has yours changed as you've gotten older or changed. What what did you used to do versus now I used to play a lot of wow and playing of snacks and back in high school. I used to get like every weekend sleepovers with while friends. I think that was a great time or made nine or something. I I got into our end Every weekend we'd literally go to the convenience store by a ton of chips a ton of a ton of You know those Jelly Jelly bears. What do you call them? Gummy bears gummy based on the gummy baby. Son of non alcoholic flavored beer. That was a thing which is like sweet beer or at least not. It's not alcoholic. It's like Apple Beers. Used to be addicted to that Shit and a bunch of bunch of red bull and we used to just stay up for you know twenty four hours sometimes even more than that And just pay. Why wouldn't eat a ton of junk food and KFC so yeah fried chicken as well chicken and I used to wake up with those same hangovers and it was even worse? Because I'd be up for so long as a kid being for that long. Isn't that bad but when he couple eating a lot of food junk food and drink water at blue is pretty bad right now. I actually have. Actually I've gummy bears right next to take just shouldn't but I do and gaming I just I'm ordering a lot lately man. Like Uber Eats has eaten up my fucking bank account. A and it's bad. I need to you know part of going back into you know ordering everything going and doing growth would save a ton of money and I need to be healthy. So Yeah The changes changes around the law. I guess I guess wherever I am in life determines what I'm GonNa tell you I would say that that's pretty much me as well. I switched I you know I like Atkins but I. I did go to intermittent Which has worked pretty well it It depends your sleep. If your sleep pattern gets fucked up intermittent. You're screwed because you can end up waking up early and then you're starved or wake up late good to go. You're like oh I've got an hour to eat. No big you know until I can e to my window and scrape but atkins you can eat it anytime. So I've sort of bounced back and forth and I would say mine has gotten really block because for a while there I was ordering a ton amounted to take out like in the discord chat. We'd all be talking. I'd be like I'm getting like fucking to Burgers in a fucking Bob Law because it was intermittent you'd only have one big meal and it just it just after awhile. Yes same thing. I was looking at the price and I was like this. I mean this is just absolutely stupid. Like just legit made no no sense at all. I mean and you have to sort of at some point. You have to look at it and be like am. I getting true enjoyment out of this. I also just learned to cut myself off so whenever I was ordering something I started doing the thing where instead of ordering everything I wanted our daughter half of whatever I wanted because I knew I'd be full within like fifteen minutes instead if you're hungry never look at porn when you're horny and never fucking or food when you're hungry right very true. You need that mental clarity. You need clarity unique. Change the porn thing and say never go out to a bar when yes maybe not always always duck off before doing always always trust me. That will save you. A lot of money will save you a lot of money and maybe some shots you will if you do not jock. Subscribe to many only fans accounts. You don't WanNa do that. Do not want to do that. You'll be a patron for every horny. Every twitch thought every yeah every patriots hidden every hatred and that's the same way and went shopping. Now we and my wife hates it. She she likes to shop and she's hungry. I'm like dude. That's the worst idea to possibly. I love going grocery shopping when I'm completely hungry. I don't know why I it's really bad manual you you'll buy so much unneeded shit. Oh Yeah you'll be getting zome inserted egg you'll get like an egg roll and you'll be all. Why did I like? You're GonNa love this stuff that doesn't need time to prepare and you're left snacks like your letter snacks. Yeah that game weakens where we go to the cabin where we'll get food. That's quick and what it turns out to be his just snacks and like Fried Barbeque Fried fucking burritos. And you just feel mine. Tire body feels like it's in a train wreck right now. This is just not good about feeling. I think it's very important for game. Honestly I would recommend going on Kiro for gamers especially I think. I think it's Playing Games for a long time and You know you're not you don't WanNa get up and and make a lot of food and if you're on Kito you can. You can go for a long time without food so or have a piece of dirty and nasty and your controller exactly Jerky a bunch of fat. And you know a lot of salt ill. It's funny 'cause the carnivore died. I was watching. Joe Rogan. I know you've been gone. See might not kept up on this but he switched a carnivore tested out in his side effect other than losing weight which has been very happy with his weight loss. He says he's been happier with this weight loss probably than he's ever been He got unrepentant aggressive diarrhea. Only meet dude yet. So it's basically my version of Atkins 'cause I'm zero carb. Fan I really. Don't you know other than cheese? I don't drink me or I don't drink milk when I'm on it. I'm getting very low carbs anyway. But I've never had that issue but he did an instagram post last week. That was raw. Like I couldn't get all the way through it. 'cause he you know it's Joe. He's trying to be funny. I was explaining what was going on but It's weird because I don't know what's different between the two He cut out a couple things that maybe I would have. But yeah his his he said it. It went away finally Or slow when I first when I first into oil Really Transition I start getting yes. Start getting running. Yeah I've never been that way From Kito in fact I would say I get a little nervous because you know you don't it wasn't even really oh like it was just like. I don't know soft crap some old come out. Serve ice cream But people might think that's gross but the reason why I want to talk about it because a lot of people who Who like play Games a lot of times? You'll hear them do bounced i-it's all the time because they're not getting up and moving around so like play games a lot. I want to get on a diet and it's like you know what not to be rude but you should probably just get up. You probably should because I'm should stretch. That'd be once in a while especially the have risk for blood clots and stuff. That's not not not good. You use probably but if you if you don't have brisk. I feel like you do whatever the fuck. You're just don't sit in the same position for way too long. Well you haven't talked to you about this. I don't think but Might shoulder has hurt for about the last eighteen years when I do Flies when you're lifting weights and you do flies and they top on my shoulder her all the time and I was like. Yeah you know I remember fucking it up with a friend but it never hurt that bad and then about two weeks ago. It felt like the meat was tearing off the bone. Like it was waking me up. It was horrendous. Do you know what I found. I went to the doctor. Do you know what it was. It was leaning to the left when our podcast. So Tana weight on my left shoulder and it pushes joined up and continues. I six hours every Friday to just be holding my body weight on one joint and he asked me and it's the chair I bought the chair and it's just more comfortable leaning to the left on my left my right so I he actually had me lower the right hand arm so I lean on the right. And he's like if you're GonNa sit you gotTa Watch out. He's like people talk about heart attacks and stuff he's like that's one thing for sure. People blood clots huge issue. You don't want deep vein thrombosis you're fucked if you get that. He's like but people forget that it's the actual joints are not set up for that. They're they're legit not set up for it. If you have hip issue and you sit too much it can fuck up your hips. If you have back issues it can fuck up your back. If you have shoulder issues it can really fuck up your shoulders. And that's why people get you know What's that When the The the fucking thing. Their forearm the chronic. You know you'll hear a lot of people in the What do you call it? The thing that you get with your hands right what it's called but yeah carpal tunnel carpal tunnel. Then they talk about it all the time and he was like yeah. That's it's the same thing as whenever you're whenever you're doing that pressure in carpal tunnel in particular. If you put your arm against your desk top he said it hits that bone in that tendon and it bruises it and then the body just starts calcified that one part it's under attack and then now it doesn't stretch as well it it was just describing stuff but it's crazy and I and I work out so it's like even somebody I can only imagine somebody who doesn't do outdoor stuff would just be when you can get injured from studying to along a weird thing to think about you know bills like it feels weird because you're not really doing any strenuous exercise or anything just rice literally setting. I feel like when you're sitting around doing nothing all day. You notice symptoms more like or sometimes even you just from no reason you literally just feel paying anything. Somethings on yet. You have a couple of times where you were like. Oh yeah bins recomend. I think he just started noticing it. Y'All I had a general his disorder and got really bad the around the end of two thousand eighteen. I don't know if you remember. Yeah end of two thousand eighteen really bad because I was sitting around all day doing nothing every day. and You know I just noticed symptoms for no reason like my brain would tell me that. Oh you know I feel pressure on my chest I feel in a pain in my. I'm Oh shit. I'm having a heart attack and Adrenalin pumps. I'm not really doing that much exercise so there's just adrenaline just going around right down so it just gives you a Diety and that could build up you know day day in day out So exercises definitely the cure for all that for sure yet. Definitely I mean. There's a other than fucking snapping attendant is as long as you're not stupid in your exercise. It's always a positive next question up. Is I covered the downfall of empires with like blizzard. And all that stuff Ravi says has players defending broken releases like anthem battlefield. Five basically every game. He says I don't remember five issues. But Anyway and fall at seventy six. Set the bar so low that a stable releases a feature in and of itself. I see what he's saying. I see what you're saying. Yeah I feel like I feel. I feel like when a game isn't even that good but runs. Well people are happy and I don't think it should be that way but they're like oh it runs. Well should be good but you know it's happening now. It's also happening in either developer from the company. Get pissy with me. But I didn't like remnant and Roy I I was pretty open about not being a huge fan of it and the developer themself was like so you're telling me that this game that offers this and has no micro transactions isn't worth Babo Blah and I was like if you think for a second that having no micro transactions is going to be a positive versus having them being a negative. You should never talk to me again. That's why that's why a lot of people like Tho- worse lineup. I feel like thought was was even that good. It was good not great away. It was good not gray. I had a lot of issues with especially with like every single thing being. You know a a cosmetic a bunch of bunch of that stuff but it just ran will add no micro transactions as issues so people were happy. I mean man that's great and all but We shouldn't we should send our senators that low like. Yeah it's like it runs awesome and it will in fact I had. I mean you know it comes up. I would give a game a one if it ran but wasn't good. If on a one to ten scale like how do you decide Blah Blah Blah? Like how do you do you work up or down? Does every game started at ten and a one to ten scale and then as you play it things suck and so it goes down or do you start at zero and you build up. You hear that a lot of times whenever anybody talks to somebody who has a one ten scale and I hope people think yes. Yeah and then some people are like. Why don't you just have a one defy or one to ten scale but you start at five. Every game is mediocre. And you go up and down from five when you start playing the game Reason why I don't like that is because I think it set you up either way. It said if you start at ten it set you up if you start at one at set you up if you start at five. Is You? Start Anywhere Really. Set you up like just. I never even thought about the like if if I were judge again. I wouldn't start anywhere like Yaba. Just play the game and be like compare it not only to itself and what I enjoyed but you know if they're sequel or prequels titles prior or tiles in genre. You know cow. Does it compare to that but I mean how do you? It'd be a wheel scoring systems. I feel like five isn't even many mediocre. I feel like seven mediocre nowadays or like six and a half right. I feel like five. Isn't the average anymore game got seven? It's you know it's bad. Apparently you know if they started a reviews scale and I said I was going to go one to ten. I would certainly make sure that at the starting of every video. I indicated five was completely adequate like what I do. Yeah medium high low and everything between the five and ten was going high and everything between the five and the was going low because otherwise dude if you if your banking on those top ones shit starts to go like wrong. Pretty quickly yeah. It's it's a pretty fucking it's pretty impossible. I think to get it right for everybody but that that just seems like one way to do it. Wrong so our players defending releases. Yes and yes. That's who's the funding anthem. Though out of all games who who who defends the. Yeah I think Ravi might just see somebody in think. Everybody's doing it. I think there's a very small number of people defending anthem. Now Seventy six. I know some people enjoyed it. But I don't think anybody would defend it Battlefield five vs five right. Yeah about battlefield five. Do you remember any was there. Something battlefield five that. I don't remember where it I didn't like the story the Little Baby X. Servile missions was there something out quickly. Did A die out. Maybe that's OBN- Loyd what the issue was with the game because felt like it was good. People were pissed off about women in World War. Two whatever God over and I don't know what was wrong with. I played it for a while. But it just didn't stick on I think that was their first game. Where maps weren't even on DLC or anything right even stated through sort of confused by that question. Because I just don't remember battlefield. Five having a ton of I do think it was worth battlefront two having issues. Rodeo for sure I think I think Like personally me and my dad. My Dad is a huge Bellefield. Santa's what we we like for the most out of all of them one wasn't really that good five. I think we just don't get into as much because with four the I like the modern guns and stuff or lot random in and and being able they were real guns you can look them up and they were all real actual gun so that was. That was a huge plus for that game and the maps were awesome. The dynamic maps. I don't remember the diner. I don't remember the maps and five being as good as for Where you know you know buildings would would would break or or the fucking home. Outward got flooded like that stuff was really cool And then let's see Michael. This is pretty much just for me. I think some the only one who played this. But how about star Trek online releasing a three hundred dollar ship. Pack outs beyond bizarre that publishers can still get away with stuff. So Star Trek Online is free Michael so I don't know if I have it. Well three hundred dollars lot. But their ship PAT. They have a shit ships. I can't speak accurately to that ship. Pack I'll go and look and maybe talk about it on the next podcast But on a free to play game especially in Star Trek and I can speak from volumes of ours in Star Trek and unbelievable unhealthy number of hours in Star Trek I have no issue with giving money to those deb's because the amount of free that you can get is incredible but I don't know three hundred dollars is a lot I would have to go. Look I don't know what that I don't. I don't if that means every single ship I would have to go look at how many ships they have and what their prices are Because doozer by the thousand dollar one for sources but also we get premium games where they give you a map fucking statue in. I don't believe in those but at least track online. You can use those ships so it's like I'm not even one hundred percent sure I I sort of like the idea of of usable stuff more than like. Here's a cool statue. But I've never been into the statue shit. Have you ever bought premium like with a fucking Busta some checker and the only one I ever bought was hill? Three with the helmet you can wear and as a kid. I was very disappointed because I couldn't wear the helmet right. That was pretty much after that. I never really bought in do premiums. I only bought like for example. Fonsi fifteen deluxe edition for the season pass Because I knew there was a lot of the L. C. coming out for that game I I don't have any collectibles or anything. Maybe I should but I. I've never bought those crazy limited edition stuff unless it's like a game. I'm super looking forward to you. Know like cyberpunk Jalen then. I didn't even buy anything for me. Neither I just I. It's just not it's hard to speak to even like why somebody But I do collect sky landers but that's a game. I continued to play 'cause those those aren't Jessica News. Those use them. Yeah which is what I was getting too so yeah I don't know I mean I get his complaint but I yeah I can't speak to it. Accurately far is asking a far cry away is asking how much valued as consumer goodwill actually have for game developed publishers with recent Pokemon and warcraft three drama. It's almost as though they do not care what the community thinks. Assails won't be impacted enough to truly hurt the bottom line Yes yes right. Finger book him on. I think the steam like those. There's one on steam. I think I'll related. Yeah Tim Cook Tim Scott Issues. I should make that clear It for sure but yes tim. Tim is definitely a shot across the bow at Pokemon for sure for sure Yeah well one hundred percent but you know it's like an Mimo type thing right where you could battle other players feel like that's a good evolve pokemon or whatever you call those. Yeah what do you what happens? Poke evolve for whatever when you poke. They've the I've never been pokemon fan. I've never been I've I've I've watched the cartoon as a kid. I never really got into the games that much. So here's the thing we okay. You can't have it both ways. I talked about this prior to Asi jumping on. But here's the reason why I say you can't have a both ways if you say. I don't like this game. Vote with my wallet. Let's say you believe that works and let's say you full and I don't believe it works by the way explain why But let's say you say I'm GonNa vote with my wallet and that works. Well then technically pokemon and warcraft. Three others have voted with their wallets and it works for activision and blizzard. What do you mean by voting with your wallet? People think that when you don't buy something you're like I voted with my wallet. I'm not buying it or I'm backing these people up and buying it and voting with my wallet while that's not true on so many levels and here's why so people don't get mad. I'm sure it matters in some. If it matters in some way it matters more in this way where a bunch of people bought it despite people not being happy and that means the bottom line on the company doesn't get hurt and they think people like it that's sort of people spoke with their wallet however when I Send Twenty Bucks to a game company. It doesn't say Jeremy Spent Twenty Bucks. Here's your twenty dollar with my name on it. They don't know they don't consider you sitting at your home as a lost sale. If you don't buy it they have no clue if you're going to buy it. They don't even know if you were a fan or not. So the Matt. The vast majority of people is all they can go by. And so that does mean that. If warcraft three cells well poke him and sells well yes the vast majority of spoken and it. It's unfortunate but that's that is the bottom line. I mean what like? I don't know other than what you call them When everybody gets together pick or you know has a What's the term when you decide you? You all WanNa Buck in Pick it a game or you know. Have everybody not by a band or whatever the term is you can do so strike. Yeah but I just don't think those really work that well what if you just love again but he just can't do financial intersil. There's that too it doesn't mean you're not a fan. Yeah or like if you hit a game or not even a few eight again but few preorder again. It turned out to be bad. Like I don't know I feel like there's a lot of different Grey areas of answer. Yeah exactly like a lot of variables that makes it hard to go based off sales alone right. Yeah and I think there's two communities he says it almost seems as though they don't care what the community thanks. I will say that. There's it appears to me as if there's two communities the community of people who bought it and they see that in the community of people who are complaining or unhappy and on forums and they do see that but people don't understand the like people on forms read it or a small percentage of the player base of small vocal minority. Yeah Yeah and it happens with everything right like all hey. Tv show. And I'll find out it's the number one TV show it'll be like how the fuck did this become popular. Everyone else sitting on it too. You're like wait a second. Yeah and then you just have to assume that whatever demographic they're looking at is is not the one you currently inhabit. Exactly so yeah. So that's that's what I would say it's far it's It sucks because Because I don't think the communities wrong on a bunch of stuff but I also think the community can be wrong. Also like for instance mass effect. Three's ending I hated but there was somebody who said that it almost broke their back when a when a when a fan was so mad about mass effect. Three's ending that. They baked them muffins. There were three colors. Red Blue and green indicates and he said the reason why it broke his back was because it indicated. The person took the time they. It wasn't just forum posts that takes no effort. It was they took the time to be that condescending and you know no one person made that decision well maybe. The producer at the very top made that decision but The decisions made and they made it in a bunch of people make those games some of them very happy with what they've made some of them very unhappy with what they've made So it sucks to. I mean it would suck to be there. Suck to be a part of something and think year part was done well and then everything something else fucked it up like you do. The best audio soundtrack can right and duty put trump games have really good music and stuff and I'm right. Fuck man the people who spent their time doing this shit like you gotta give him credit man yet. It sucks it. And then I've I've had a lot of people are like this person should just not you know. Quit their job and find a better job. And you're like Damn Dude you just at some point no idea how the real world works at up to just get a job for head like yeah yeah just like what do you do just quickly. Don't like working for them so far. Better Bet your us from working for Your Blizzard. Even if they fuck man. I'm getting that paycheck. And my best work. I could fight for what I could but it is also my livelihood and if you are removed from your livelihood in that place you cannot fix it from the inside out either so if you do decide to leave you are leaving and your input is no longer there anyway. So you do sort of decide. Hey you know what I fought. Got Two or three good things into this game but it turned out bad. Do I stay and try to get two or three more good things into the next one or do I do? I cut all ties and when you cut all ties. You don't have any input you're done if you leave you're done you're nobody you're not connected anymore so it's a good question man but there's a lot of grey areas there. But I I get you and I. I can understand especially with warcraft. Three even more with warcraft. Three I get I absolutely understand the unhappiness last up for the twitter question for move on Droop. Snoot amazing amazing name just read on. Windows central today that the debugging port on the back of the Xbox X. series is probably a high-speed expandable storage port. That is correct so I talked about this on the podcast win. They showed that picture that is for sure. A expandable port. It looks to be a port where you will by envy. 'em To Slots and put me in. Probably Microsoft's proprietary case and then slighted in. We did do some measurements. Yeah yeah luckily they had an HD my port there in a couple of other things you can figure out dimensions quite easily and that fits perfectly with an m to port But there were a lifesaver. Do they are? Yeah and there was also Cf express cards people? Thought it might be that it could possibly be that as well but I don't think Microsoft is. I don't see Microsoft going with that. I see them going with something that's a bit more stable 'cause the CFO express cards of frigging expensive as fuck and I just don't see them getting any bonuses over 'em to except for heat am two's hottest fuck shit up I think that's the only thing you would have to worry about. But it's a good question is a good question is going to be interesting man. This this fall is going to be the new. Xbox is a fucking power. I feel like you have to worry about heating that much. I feel like they got everything yet. It looks beefy. It looks like it's going to be good. Yeah like Shit. So Do I. and he. I mean Phil. Spencer said it perfectly. He was like when we made this. We decided that form factor would not in any way inhabit or inhibit function. He's like we will in fact. Yeah exactly like we form where we want. It's a console you putting next year. Tv just let it sit there. Be As beefy as it. Is You know like a little mini. Pc Guy Yourself into gaming PC You know the one thing that was bothering me. He were gone but the concern. Trolling you know that term right. What does that mean concern? Trolling means when somebody uses an overly aggressive concerning post to basically console war. So it'd be like I am incredibly nervous or incredibly that the heat will build in. You're like no you just want to bitch about Blah Blah Blah. That's concern trolling. And that sort of replace the aggressive troll is the concern troll the like. Oh I have both systems so I can speak from been impartial. And you're like I know that doesn't make that's what every like fucking article upset desert-like with All they do yeah they do. I mean I get it but I would say if you're saying you're ultimately super concerned about something You mean you need to be concerned about murder not about a game console. The that is a fair point right like ymer. Why would do if somebody's being raped? Every minute People are being killed by missiles. Worry about real shit. Don't be concerned about the form factor of a console like get outside walk outside. Close your low twenty seven inch monitor off walk outside and I can guarantee you. You'll see that shit that will concern you within five seconds. You don't open concerned about that kind of Shit You do need to say. That's not my style. I think there's nothing wrong saying that like I read. People say that's pretty ugly. I get it because I thought the. Ps four was ugly The GAMECUBE I know people love the game cube. I thought that was just an ugly little purple box and I can understand aesthetics but not concern like I'm concerned about the build up like worries for right right writing down that you're talking to your psychiatrist about your worries that the Purple Game Cube will make people think you fucking like rainbows or something. It's like dude. Seriously what are you? What are you stressed about Sort of realign. Your worries but those are good questions man. I definitely appreciate you guys. Given those that was there was a lot Is there any more notes for mixture? Okay next thing. Let's move to let me grab my notes here F. O. V. so before you got your One of the things I was talking about I hit on a bit was that I got Maude. Maude Nexus by the way one of the best websites ever. I got a Maude for Dragon Aging physician and it has changed my entire enjoyment of that game. Yeah it's a sky room camera so zooms you weigh in and like Chris Person. You know Over so I'll call it a gears camera. Have that it's a camera so it moves you to the left and you're no longer in the center. Which is the default for inquisition? You're to the left and so you can see what you're doing and zooms you in and I have to say might enjoyment of the combat has risen dramatically and it popped up F. O. V. popped up like Tight F. O. V. and Games which is What Zombie war? Our Army for had was tight F. O. V. And I just wanted to know what your thoughts are on like. Cameras F. O. V. Overall like do you notice seat to me. Ortega's field diss. I feel disconnected because even if I zoom into a guy in the army and like let's say the world at war series or something I can't be him or I can't be that close so I just sort of see. This dude numbered sixty six like fighting dies. I'm not like Oh man that sucks because I can't get in there Does that ever? Do you ever notice that games. Do you ever notice like a certain game with a camera view that you hate just because either to away or too close or I think it depends on the game like if a game is supposed be immersive. I feel like the character is just an you know very gamified in the middle of the screener or the cameras. Far Away couldn't really get into as much. Maybe I'm tight tight tight F. O. V. Also bothers me a lot kind of makes me feel like claustrophobic a little bit. It's really bad I feel like for some games tight. Fiv WORKS FOR OTHER Games. It just is just bad I guess it depends on the game. Like you saw was playing along with the workup. Yeah so Kim's like that where or or or games like even dragon age maybe maybe not inquisition. Maybe let's say Dragon Age origins. Sometimes you have to zoom the fuck out. See what's going on with your teammates. A novel Yeah and there's also vertical F. O. V. Right like some games Option for that as opposed to horizontal. Eft You played dark over now. I have played Kharkov once. Yeah so it's has vertical instead of horizontal game was designed for Fifty F. O. V. But you can get all the way up to seventy five And so you see. A lot of the game is designed for fifty. So what happens is you gotta some some bugs with with aiming down sites and stuff off using the Sol for example the shots shoe upwards a little bit and at high vis even though I love high of obesity of fierce because we see more is zooms out so you can see less so sometimes it hinders you right Rather than helps you out so I guess it's just depending on the game and would you know how it's designed. How did you play red dead to first person or third? Third third on on on console. Elliott's on console. Yeah why did you chose Third Well on console I chose just because I feel like with the controller for for me first person. I like on keyboard and mouse and controller. I like third person because one with keyboard and mouse so first person makes more sense like I love like those immersive first person like metro and all that stuff like I love being the first burdensome or with console I just when I sit back on the couch and I have my controller and I'm just like chilling. I feel like Chris Persons too much. I can't really. I can't really get immersed that much. I don't know if that makes sense man but no. It doesn't do you also notice when you're in first on a console when you move that controller. It doesn't matter how fast you move your thumb. It's never it's never a mouse exactly so like you can't let it for example right now. I'm sitting in real. Life can look to the right as fast as they can write. It can look really slow. Yeah but when? You're playing third GRISSOM. You're just moving the camera. And you're like panning so it looks. It looks pretty good. Yeah that's what it is and you can. It's funny but because when you move because you are zoomed out in third person and you move in third person you're F O. V is technically bigger anyway. So that would exempt that you would feel like even with Ca Mau controller would feel like you're seeing more because you and I wouldn't say most controllers move faster in third person. That view moves faster than first person anyway. Usually when you're in first person you have a controller even if you crank it up it's a little too flicky anyway. It's never really precise. Yeah yeah unless you're like a pro you know yeah. I don't know like there's some crazy aspro Kaden fortnight players that are crazy controller but yeah but they probably do their little fucking exercises prior each noticed also is is this happens with Dr disrespect to plays Games happens with all twitch terms to is every time you see him new in a game. They get roasted. I watched escape from dark disrespect. Tried to play and the for. He died like twenty five times the first time he played which admittedly that game is like. Arma for multiplayer. So I get it but at the same time it was funny because people think and they like to pretend they're amazing and we joke about this all the time. But it's like you might be amazing at one thing but if you put a baker in a row boat mask him to rope you know upstream you're GonNa be in deep shit. Dark dark loves the bus example for because for talk of you don't even have to be good appears to be good at. Yeah a lot of pro. Fbi's players get into there and they're like yeah. I can fuck everything a really good. Fbi's player but they're just completely terrible at Kharkov. 'cause it's not even about that so really really shows with that game how you know. There's no layover or There's a disconnect there and there's It seems like especially with Kharkov. I mean one of the things you always hear as it doesn't matter what gun you have. You can still rope somebody while the talk of bullets matter way more than guns and guns like like if you have the best gun in the game with the shittiest bullets it it's still bad like the shittiest Gun In the game the best boards will outperform the best gun. That's nice coats interesting idea. It's also interesting took off. I love the idea that you know. It's been around for a long time. Wasn't doing well. And they added twitch integration and drops and it was it was it was. I feel like Hopes the streaming helps the game hopes of yours. I don't know I don't see anything wrong with that does do that. Game went by the way I was talking to not penny. There's another guy in our stream I it might be cereal but somebody was streaming that a long time ago a couple months ago and then I talked to Ridge and he was playing it and you may have played it. I can't remember but I went in. I tried to play tonight some graphics issues and was like. I'm not gonNA mess with this but it was dead. It was dead in this person was streaming to like nine people. There was nobody playing it and then and this is sort of like we've seen some twitch term go from zero watchers to twenty thousand just because they happen to be on the Hawk Game Yup and that's definitely worked for Arctic Stillie Facility. Went from like five hundred. Viewers is from name to one hundred thousand when the dumpster coming on a lot of them are. Yeah a lot of them were bought. S- like a lot of the viewership for which drops were bots and tabs open just to farm you drowsy or curb one hundred percent but still like man that company started with. I think five people. Yeah and now it's like sixty or seventy so. It's good for them. You know all of the jobs for people and I love the developers while Nikita. He's a good guy is a funny guy at and He made all the music for that game and the music is amazing. The music is awesome and Yeah he he the owner. I guess the main dove or whatever you call it the director. He's the guy behind all the music. That's interesting that when we go. Yes so I mean I think when it comes down to it like F. O. vs like we were talking about it does it does depend on. You know the game but I will say something changed Because when I got that Maud Well. I feel the same way about homefront revolution. I enjoyed homefront revolution but it was making me sick on consoles and a matter of fact. I had to finish my walking the walk on the PC version. And then they added the Console F. O. V. and winning and adjust and a win revisited months later and I was like Holy Shit. I'm really enjoying the fuck out of this game now. because F. O. vs just if they're claustrophobic and you need to look around a lot it can make you. Well can make me sick. Just not feel physically well if it's too claustrophobic though not as well. He took off the screen. He had that giant ASS motherfucker. Dude it's like we get Batmans huge. Become the fuck on right took the screens the screen up in fact. Bod's to actually adjust that and back because it was like you know and years does that. Sometimes when you're playing you know the bigger characters and gears with all their armor as a running and you feel the screen shaking. Yeah Yeah Let's see what else do we have to talk about problems sponsorship so this came up recently came up in voice chat in discord wanted to tell people about some of the stuff moving forward so we do do sponsorships on the podcast I do Spotify because I like spotify and I do anchor anchor People are asking what you do other sponsorships and I was telling them that. Energy drink manufacturer contacted me. Give me some energy drink and I liked it and I won't return his emails because I like it and I don't know how to put. I don't really WANNA put a sponsorship of that kind of thing in the podcast But as we move forward if it's completely unrelated like an energy drink or something like that I may. I haven't decided how I'm going to go about it. I feel that IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO USE MY AMAZON AFFILIATE. That's one thing somebody wants to use my What's the other like epic Creator Code? That's one thing. I feel a little odd doing products However it'll prob- as we move forward on podcasts. It'll probably change on the podcast because the longer I do the podcast. The more people are involved. It's not just me and as some changes I talked about before. Ozzie came on some changes to the team and maybe people streaming on my stream when I'm not there on my channel All like angry Joe with multiple people as we start looking into that kind of stuff I don't feel it's really fair to restrict everybody is unless it's a review which is my own shit so just so people know you might see him. I'll explain I haven't really decided if I'll do any but The problem with sponsorships is. It's it's a slippery slippery slope When it comes to sponsorships and I have to like their product. I mean I just do and I don't get a chance to test a lot of stuff and a lot of the products. I use her old. That like don't even have spawned like or like like the xbox controller will how do you get a sponsor fucking link for like the xbox controller while Amazon already have the Amazon affiliate. So it's a little odd dude. I do like this energy drink though it was weird. I feel like if it's not gaming related. It shouldn't like have an issue with anything. Like if you if you got spunk. Gencor anchor or a juice or like a fucking even headphones may be right. Yeah Yeah I mean yes. It's I agree with you guys. I had everybody. We had like fifteen people on a voice chat three days ago when this came up and everybody was on me for it and I was like if it was just me. I don't know what I'd do but now that we're you know we've got a little bit of the better friends thing going on. We've got some ideas of like having people stream to the channel. I'm like well. It's not just me now. And if there if they if they WANNA do better I'm not gonNA stop them from being able to put their own links and because like for example Johnny. Who's in better with? Franz he he has gotta links. I don't think it's fair. If he streams on my channel and has more watchers to not have an Gado link for instance that kind of stuff like his own sponsors Yeah he's got well. He's got a affiliate link for Al Gato. You know if if someone were to you know have their own sponsors on your show or something. Yeah we didn't even talk about that but that too. Yeah Yeah like if somebody if we got somebody big and they had a sponsor of like I'm trying to think of an I see. I don't even think of monster energy drink because I don't have sponsored them but if somebody did and they popped in I'm not gonNA say they can't have that pop up if they're streaming got wouldn't be fair and so. I'm just trying to look a lot of people. Just wear stuff right or like or like have like if you're sponsored by monster. They have like a little small monster many more like a thing. Yeah a lot of people do that even direct. It's kind of weird. If you have like a podcast and then someone comes on like oh by the way you should check out Monster Energy Drink. I've got like weird. You have to be honest. Yup So your show should be your own sponsors or your own thing. Yeah and and Yeah. It's just it's it's GonNa take a lot to figure out you know and the thing is like especially as youtube continues so I don't know if you saw this youtube said they made fifteen billion dollars last year. Fifteen billion dollars. They spent maybe three bucks on the copyright system tops right the copyright systems of worst fucking thing in the world and so. I'm continually getting dinged. Everybody else's getting dinged and I have to diversify now using anchor and all this stuff because they D- monetize without warning. You all this crazy shit so I'm just trying to figure out Like sort of how I go forward right his. We're in a weird or time so we so if anybody wants to know about that I'll continue posting about it. I'm going to pause this verify that we're still doing our recording correctly and we'll be right back all right. We're back sorry about that guys. I just want to check as we continue forward. Since this is the first time we've had Abkhazian for one of these. WanNa make sure that he doesn't waste his mother fucking time next thing. Let's look at. We're GonNa talk about something that probably is not going to be super into. I don't think he has friends around physically that do this kind of stuff but do board games at all I wish I mean you'd have presently boker that on funds up play board games. Winning go play poker with him. Woke Up. Consider that a game a tabletop. Game I guess. Oh Yeah. I played the Super Bowl Sunday but I mean I don't I don't I don't have. I don't have physical nerd friends. All My nerd friends are online. Yeah even even my my like for like obviously grow up with rub a lot of friends that are nerds as well but They're not around me all online. So we're all just sitting in our little houses online and Yeah the only physical. I've friends I have poker players and stuff in terms of board games pretty much. That's a monopoly and stuff. Nothing crazy. Yeah was it. Real Money. Yeah is that bother you or do you like playing with real money? It's it's definitely more Intense with real money. I mean it's it's it's definitely more Tangible or something. I don't know how you WANNA go. Are you guys doing like you know with the river like a full on new style poker you doing old shit like fucking five card stud and shit like Texas hold on? Yeah so so. Do you have a dealer or is it just? When are you guys dealing just really be rotate Gotcha? Because around lear. Everybody Rinse a dealer now. That's the new thing really. Yeah they're not expensive you tip them but now with money games because it's money and people get nervous. The big thing now is to is to hire you can literally go online and just say I need a poker dealer at my party on. The ban was like Twenty Bucks Lake. So it wasn't that crazy. Isn't that crazy but we'd like to rotate. And then someone on the left and would be the the big blind. On the right the small blinder. Yes Oh yeah dude. I like her but man I I just. I'm so chaotic. Almost nobody wants to play with me. 'cause I just don't pay attention. I'm not that good a poker. I mean I'm I know what wins but I just can't. It doesn't hold my attention for very long that make sense poker. It's yeah I don't know why I can watch it for hours but plane myself. I get like distracted and I start making stupid bets on purpose if that makes sense so I'll be like all right five dollars and I'll have like a two and a nine and like it just it a lot of my bets just only even with even with money and I know a lot of Poker players get really mad about that like they WANNA play. They don't want somebody they want to be able to read you and identify. I'm like it. Listen Bitch I play chaotic. You gotta learn but the exact most people get really mad about it but like in terms of like I wanNA play actual board against those guys do too so fun. Yeah I I really want to like get into an actual board game in your life. We are so two weeks ago. We played marvel champions collectible card game. That was pretty fun. Had had a issues but You know you set it up the first setups always the bitch where he like what you know. What what fucking deck is this? And who gets this card and you trying to figure out all the rules But it was pretty enjoyable man. Yeah Board Games. There's something about him. The tangible holding something feels good. You know yeah like I like throwing dice. I like moving around miniatures. Like even risk and monopoly and stuff. I love the moving. That shadow around you know. So it's it's something just right there. Physical is really nice. It's I should make like a like a new technology where you like. Vr virtual reality literally not a are but like like ca having virtual stuff come to relate for something yeah thick become like a real thing. I don't know what it's impossible but yeah he has three game. That had the had the deck of cards. And when you put them on the cards yeah they live and you see the graphics in the headset. I thought that was pretty cool. I remember those pretty. I played that game for dude. I actually got into that. Did you get into that guard? Game Yeah on the PS three. It was when it first came out the playstation I. Yeah the playstation. I forgot all about that technology. I think that like with board games especially for me some people. Just don't get into video games because you're looking at a screen. It's not three D. It's not affiliated property and a lot of my friends Girls in particular. Maybe because they didn't grow up on it at their age you know now. It's not the same but they're of age where girls probably weren't playing as many video games as I do now and so a lot of them. Just don't really get into the video game board games or VIDEO GAMES. But they love board games and we. Yeah we have this big group you have like twelve people come over and There's something so fun because you can. It's not you're not just all looking at one square in front of you and like people can eat talk about music and fucking you know joke and talk about you know stupid things you did. When you were young at the same time you can also do tactics and strategy and It's it's fucking it's amazing man. Board Games are cool but the question was was what were some of our favorite board games. Abbvie doesn't sound like he gets to play that many saw assuming psych monopoly or something or say from from the ones. I've played I. I'd probably go with the risk for the ones I played at least Definitely if I played all of them it would definitely not be the answer. Like there's so many Go Board Games. I looked online. Even my friend he worked at a is promoting for a board game company like a distributing company and showed me the different board games. They got from like war hammered. Dark souls even all these. They all look very interesting. Read the rules sets and saw how they play and they just look really engaging in you know pretty fun For me I would say I. I actually would put risk and like the top ten. Even though I've played hundreds I I actually think risk is awesome But I would say for me at least right now as imperial Assault Star. Wars imperiously assault If anybody gets a chance you should check it out. It's it's not on the cheap or expensive side is right. I would consider it being fairly worth it but one cool thing about it is. It's a mini. Dnd so you make a board to indicate your scenario and whether you win or lose it actually. Has you go to different scenarios next. So it'll say like did the heroes win go to page fourteen and play this mission. Did the Heroes Lose? Go to page eighteen and play this mission. That's cool yes. So it's a choose your own adventure solache or game but the coolest thing about it. Is You actually read flavor text at different times so it's like if you saved? Han Solo from the prison cell the DM reads this. And you're like laser blaster. Fire goes over the top of your head as you Baba and then it changes. It'll be like now you have this and that's just in one scenario and there's fifty scenarios in the main book and then they're six expansions that are about the same price. They're huge They come with miniatures unfortunately unpainted But I would tell anybody if you're trying to get somebody into dungeons and dragons. They're a pretty good thing. Because you actually level up your characters as well you play with the same character through all the missions and like those little. You know those scenarios that happened that you were explaining. Yeah where like something happens and then like a situation arises. Third reminds me of You have you ever played those Space Games which one which one of my thinking of I'm thinking of deloris. Have you played slurs a love steelers? I Love Dude. That game is awesome because so yeah you build your own empire and stuff but whenever like it's only an it's an. Ats Right but when something happens and like you're scanning a planet there's a lot of different voice relations that arise choices and situations and I love breeding them. Because it's just engaging like I like I like reading it and like kind of times where it's like you found an ancient race but there won't kill them or or ignoring yes stuff like or like you know stuff that happens. Only in text or even. Fd L. Does that too. Yeah you just like a block of text. I love reading those other really really engaging. Yeah they're a blast Yeah so if anybody gets a chance you should check out that game It's got some errors in the main Books so make sure you download the router. Which can be pretty sizable for those games. But I would say if you're thinking of getting somebody into dungeons and dragons but you know maybe have a spouse or family member who thinks dungeon dragons to nerdy. Get them this board game and then just make sure the flavor text and explained to them how you upgrade characters between missions and you go up in level because I know even my wife who does not did not originally like the idea of DND. Because she didn't know how the how how it worked. She didn't know how how the rules were. Once you play this game you just be like now instead of only being able to shoot through this door. You can do anything you want. And then once they understand the skills they have to apply in the game world. Suddenly a person can go. I think I understanding now. Our local stores imperial assault ago. Yeah is and so. Yeah if anybody gets chance you should check it out No sponsored link just a game. I like Let's see what else we got Oh you to versus twitch attitude so this is something obscene I've talked about. This is something that popped up in the topics list Why do I mention it? A lot was why. This was brought up So if you're new to this and you've never heard me mention this one of the things I talked about a lot of the podcast is the difference between Youtube and twitch attitudes from the Creator's towards others and it's come up a lot of times that unless you're drama channel on twitch most twitch streamers actually get along there's some clicks for sure but there's a slightly more general positive attitude towards newcomers and. I can certainly speak to that For every twitch dreamer I have randomly talked to or just watched or engaged with. There's more of a communal aspect of that doesn't exist in Youtube and Yeah the and it's come up that we've got like I have my group of people that come together like Mattie and and skill dreamcast guy. Those guys who come on a bad seed Tech Tech City joker all those guys come up But the reason why I wanted to explain this because I do think one of the issues people forget is that when you create a video the videos there forever and that means that people can overtime a video can be proven wrong. Patch can come for a game your opinion to be proven wrong. What have you but also and that's that's an issue where if you're playing let's say you're streaming a game in two people are streaming. They're they're not really in competition they are but they're not there. It's really more about the product because you can't. You're not focusing as much on an end result. Youtube video editing down and cutting it up and making and showing just the particular best parts on twitch. That's not how it's done. That's why you never see reviews on twitch just doesn't really work so this came up of why that is and I think with Youtube in particular. There's there's people creating the end product and in product is where their ego is based their egos. But if you put your foot down on a review. Let's say let's say you don't score. That's one thing if you're like I don't score games. I'm just going to tell you if I liked it or not. Usually those people don't get a lot of heat because they're not putting their foot in the sand but if you're like me who puts my foot in San says I think it's worth it. I think it's done. It's easy to get people like disagreeing and were with twitch you just don't have that because normally a twitch streamers does not tell you their final impressions they they just don't you you pick up on it over the time of them playing the game and if they're continually playing it then they liked it and I think that's one of the reasons why guys you see a lot of youtubers going to twitch because there's it's happening less on Youtube I do WanNa make sure that's clear Most of the people I know on Youtube are awesome and there. There's more of a communal just like hey I'm doing my thing you do your thing and there's less of a competition there was prior and I think that's because we're all fighting youtube now so there's not as much time to like bitch true But I think what twitch you know. I've certainly noticed at the people I talked to. They're just very positive and very Again not the drama channels. But I'm saying you know channels that are just covering games. They're just like members covering this game and It's not a benchmark where somebody can say. Hey you're in video card got twenty F-. Ps higher than mine. Your settings must be wrong and suddenly. There's drama around to youtube videos reviewing GTS card or something. His Shit just started happening twitch so so that's what I was getting to whenever you hear me talk about that kind of stuff twitch doesn't have some stuff that I think. Youtube is vital four so neither one is better than the other. But that's why you see a lot of people who are doing you. That's why you see them. Attempt attempt twitch It just it's it's real time and shit just doesn't stick around as long you know if somebody is mad it goes away pretty quick because it's real time is just the you can't the post. Isn't there forever people. Just move on and do you think also has something to do with the the sizes like could you to being way bigger than switch. No at all I don't I don't I think it's post you know it's it's it's the. It's the tit for tat because the fans it. It's a tit for tat. It's like this person. Says you said this so that there must somebody must be wrong twitched. Just you don't the streamers. Don't safe things like that? They don't put their foot and sand. Almost every true trudeau fell natural just hanging on playing games. Yeah yeah that's true so I think you're right that there's more people to mess it up but there's probably more people to make it better to on Youtube and we and we have an amazing audience. So I'm not even talking about like our audience or anything. I'm just saying what I've noticed is that there's almost less angst on twitch. I guess there's there's more of A. Hey this is working for me. Maybe it'll work for you. Where with Youtube? It could also be because a lot of youtubers are fighting the big guys the genes the the game stops and so there's more stress there and everybody's scrambling personally. I have always believed that if you watch. My video doesn't mean you won't watch somebody else's so I've never really felt that if you've got more views than me that means I'll get less. I just don't believe that at I've never seen it ever be a thing. If that were thing than I would be getting less views because all of us are now reviewing games and by defacto people wouldn't be watch again as much they'd be watching us. That just does not happen. More people getting into games than people who are watching game reviews so the the the the Mana Pool has increased. And there's enough Mana for all of us I also feel like with them with twitch at least for okay. There's a lot of people. Copying others. Twitched is a lot of people copying other shows other things on twitch for sure. Don't get me wrong but I feel like with the top. Top streamers like each single different stream has kind of a different environment a different vibe right but then with youtube all the big you know you know millions of subscribers channels. I feel like they're all the same like I feel like they're all you know. Small clips of people like playing minecraft and then talking to each other making jokes and laughing and having like a camera shake or something. Yep Yep I see a law of those channels a lot like a ton of them and they're they're all bay successful but they're all doing the same exact thing so I don't know what that's about either. I think it's just like as you said the you know. You have a video up there for so long and then you got like a formula to fall back to Yemen. Yeah Yeah it's just you in the game and your your community if it's good So it's yeah it's I I WANNA make sure people think you don't think I'm descend on one of the other. I'm not saying twitch terms don't have to work as art or the Youtube strimmers work harder or work less. It's just different attitudes and different length of stay. Youtube have been around for many many years. Twitchell get you know more solidified and how it does twitches rules or becoming more ironclad when their rules were a little less ironclad in the past so as as that kind of stuff happens you'll see people treating that reacting to that more but Yeah overall it's been it's been eye-opening To meet some people who do both. I've got to really talk a lot to like fighting cowboy Who met through Maddie's PODCAST and He's also got a youtube channel but he's mostly twitch and the openness of him. It reminds me Brian from bad seed. Tech you know or or joker or I think it's also Brian from Texas city. Everybody's you know. Those guys were just so open. And there's a little less of them on Youtube now. Which is feels like setups. I did video. Yeah when you think about who about Linus? What do you think about all that? I don't know I feel like he's going through some shit isn't he like I feel like whatever. Whatever he thinks is better for his mental health. I feel like he was kind of broken and away right. What did you get from him saying that he? He's he's driven the same car forever and that he actually believes in renewable stuff and that he felt that he was feeding in to the exact over. Purchase mentality I think that At some point something popped up and he looked he looked back. Maybe maybe he may be some story from somebody came up but you know. I've mentioned it by the way. Yeah that's what I in our discord. I've actually mentioned that particular thing where I wasn't a big Fan because I felt that some of the builds and stuff were just like you're just wasting like it just felt like it was just waste. It was becoming bigger and bigger and bigger. And you know it could have been a family member. It could have been him. A lot of people will just have that one moment. We're sitting and you're like you know what realization or you look at an old video and you're like wait. Where did I come from? Where my attitude change from that? It could have been all that But I think he was pretty open about. You know that kind of stuff bothering him. And he's big enough to where he can adjust it and Maybe pick and choose and it's it sounded like he wasn't really changed anything he was just trying to sort of explain where he was going. But one of the big things he said is something. I agree with completely. He said so. I don't write my scripts. I'll put notes down but he said I'm a writer now I'm not tech head anymore. And so he missed so they did a video. What I heard spawned some of this. It was they did a video and they missed a huge thing and so he said if he had been his old self he would have caught that thing and he didn't and it was like attacking missed something massive it was about. Amd cards with the down clock situation. That occurred where they were selling different cards than they were saying that they were benchmarking originally and it was a big deal and it wasn't very long ago that this popped up and Yeah I mean I could see somebody looking back and being like dude if I had been on game in not writing all day long to do some script or not. Managing Ten people then Then I could have done that what he probably needs. Honestly as a producer. That's what he probably. Yeah like a news you know. I think he'll probably I. I honestly do feel that. He likes doing it so I do see that he could be a purdue or he would hire somebody to handle the the the all the management and all that stuff management gets to start reading websites and and you know crunch down on tech and take things apart and remember one thing people always have a breakdown and then they find out that the fixes and I'm not saying all fixes or small anybody listening. Don't think I'm saying that. But what happens? Is Somebody off a breakdown. You'll find out that the thing that broke them as one straw the straw on the camel's back right and so back to the old thing they'll feel better almost instantly. That is what I feel happen to him. As Hill switch one or two things and go off. I just needed more tech. I need to do this. Occasionally he may not need to do it as much as he used to. But he'll be like I really enjoy this so now once a week. I'm going to break down some tech without doing a video But he's got the same stuff we all have where it's like. I'll play a game and it'll be like I should be recording this. You know because they posted onto youtube and some people might enjoy it And he gets negative comments a lot too about the purchase. Push that he has when he shows some awesome setup and suddenly somebody like. I want the best. Pc you know no no man so min Max yeah Speaking of that. I don't know if this is pretty risque for this conversation. But was SORTA wrap it up on this I watched a documentary called Rocco and this is Diana about Rocco sieff read or whatever the porn star Rocco his name. So He's a hardcore porn star. And he's going. He's basically leaving porn and it was interesting that he mimicked what Linus was saying about. Like looking back at yourself and being like like what are you proud of what you WanNa see when you look back? And what are you pushing? And he said what broke him was. He was at an adult movie awards and a Fan came up to him a girl and she said my boyfriend shocks me and spits on me and slaps at me and I don't like it but he says he wants to make love like you do and Royal Mike and Rocco said he was like wait what he was like. That's because he doesn't do that with his wife. In fact his wife is in the documentary and his wife is like. He's very romantic with her. He gets that stuff out with the the movie stars the way. So she's like he's he's the greatest guy in the show and she has no problem with him be an important But it gets that out with them. He that's his thing. He which he has an issue and he's very open about it but he said it broke him he was like. I don't want my son's thinking that I don't want. He's like they're different. They're not the same porn is not like loving and I don't even think I guess people do that right. Oh yeah they said she was very clear like yeah. She was like he thinks. That's how you well some girls like it. I mean for sure. Some girls like that crazy hardcore obscene. But I don't some guys do too but I don't think it's the time I don't know what the likes the same thing all the time including myself for all. There's a mood for everything. Yeah Yeah Munich. A huge part of it always communicate. I don't know what the fucking guy was thinking. But he's probably he's probably young too and I guess like it's weird having had point like that point starr was idle or something like he likes them a lot or he liked him a lot but he also thought that was pretty much how you turn somebody arm. Oh right ask. I mean some people. Some people think yes I'd ask. Yeah that is true. A is honestly. It's the best thing you can do is ask the significant other. They like and what they dislike right. Yeah you're never gonNA you're never gonNA know everyone's different dude. I don't even know what ice cream somebody likes let alone turns on on Friday at three. Am versus three PM. Like people like this woman rate like there's a lot of different nuances to how Yeah Yeah it's it's very. It's very difficult but it was. It was the reason why bringing it up is because it was a a moment he had Where I think Linus An all creators have every creator. I know has had that moment. Where they're like. They look and it could be good where they think they're doing poorly and somebody says you say and I've had it where somebody's posted and said. I'm having a horrible week but I watched karaokes reviews in a row and I'm laughing my ass off. I want to thank you and I've had multiple ones that does reset you as well. You'll be like okay you know. I was feeling down because maybe I didn't get a response. I thought I was going to get on something but this person you know it helped them. And that's that's what matters so I think there. I think anybody with a following deals with that so I don't know what happened to Linus. I think it's sad But it's also cool because I mean he's at a point where he can. He can do that. I think everybody can do it. You get stuck thinking you can't. It's almost like what you said where you're like. If you have a pattern or a formula you sort of like ducked down on it and you're like I'll just do this easy to be on a routine and not you know being a not go out of your comfort zone for sure you know how many people are mad at me for not starting out with. Sup All the time. Now you're not you're not saying stop at the time. I need to catch up on videos like this last one. I started out saying like thank God. Zombies have huge balls. And then I I went for like a minute or two and then said you know this is character on my job you know. I put it later Sometimes I'll say sometimes I won't. Sometimes they'll say maybe subscribe sometimes it won't I'll say subscribe to somebody else. They're people who legitimately are like dude. I didn't like us because you didn't say. Stop at the starting like Damn Shit. Shit. I am one of those guys that all just fucking do that now on purpose if if somebody gets bitchy about like okay. Now I'm doing it. But yes that's when he remember when someone based about Uganda started making it again. Maybe subscribe overboard for sure. A because it's mine right and with linus that's his and like in with everybody. They need to remember that it's theirs and it's their formula so it doesn't mean they can't change their formula and changing. Oh I can be really interesting. I changed up. I don't always do game play at the end now. So fun factor. Sometimes I'll be like game. Plays up at right after graphics or whatever and that's going to be like oh that's different but yeah I I just don't see why people they get lockstep if they see success once and they think I need that success every time and it's like I don't know of any singer imagine if you're a singer obscene. You had a hit song number. Six was a hit on your first album. Would you suddenly hate song number seven and four? If they weren't like I would like to talk to a singer and ask them how to deal with that because fuel number six food. I think it was popular. 'cause it was more. I don't know it's like why the fuck do people like. I don't know maybe maybe maybe maybe it's I don't know I haven't gotten to that got into that music were like I mean. Imagine Amazon music but I never loved my shit like even though people might like even the stuff that I got signed like and people like the I i. I don't like my own stuff which is up as butter good but yeah just never satisfied with anything. I Create River Right. Did you hear about? I think it's Joaquin Phoenix. If I remember right yeah who who won't watch his own stuff ever he becomes like right becomes incredibly comfortable. He he like me. I I don't like listening to my own voice I mean I don't mind it I just feel like I feel like if I was someone else. I wouldn't be friends with me. Yeah right because of my boys'll so weird to say but but But I hate my own voice. I use noise isolation headphones when our record and I've heard people be like Like carrot talks too much in his review. And they'll be like dude. It's a review to just want silence with the best is when somebody says he likes to hear his own voice and I'm like you do realize I can't hear it like I can't. I can't hear my own voice at least not clearly. I'm using sound isolation headphones so it's all like here's her? Maybe I'll cut down but yeah it's I mean. Yeah it's it's it's interesting just to see how people react to like what's popular. What's not and how I'd like to get a musician. Whose had something somewhat popular and ask them like do they do. They ever look the other songs because youtubers do almost every youtuber. I know if song seven as in episode seven of a let's play does amazing and eight nine and do not. They actively try to replicate seven. Well most musicians will tell you. They will not try to replicate any song. Talk to any musician. They'll be like well. That sounds too much like this other song. So real musicians now. Yeah not to. I should say there's a lot of people cupping the same formula for instance money. Yeah catch catch. She should crazy with music. You can do that. Music has its trending. Doesn't it when you think about it like you? Drinking is exactly the video yup. They've got their minecraft meam videos for sure it's like A. It's like something that they know how to write the Justice Singable or or or beat you know like the beat is just going to get people going and it's going to work like what the fuck is remember that song by that work work work work like what is the you know like wh. What is that? What like ten writers to write that Song I mean. I don't so definitely got that where you know people are. I think most people are like you or just you know the the general population as something. I have no idea what it is but it makes the vocal minority yet. 'cause 'cause everyone like forums or anywhere you just everyone goes like. Oh I don't like top forty. I don't listen to who the fuck is listening to top. Forty why's it forward with forty for? It should be calling if nobody's listening to it but instead of the top song and top forty in your bus don't like who liking it. Maybe it's high school goodman. Maybe it's just high school kids on talks to I don't know yet might be or it. Might be like yeah. I don't know it's it's that's always confused me on like where the popularity of something especially with trending World Look and be like I got no 'cause like twitter. I can see this person's funny or this person plays newest games or this is the newest game and people are playing. That's one two three pretty easy but with with minecraft in particular. You'll be like dude. This is an ancient game. It's the same person you know smashing shit in the background. Same Weird Cross hatched picture of them screaming. That's twisted at forty five degree angle. It'll be like house this fucking working like but it is. It obviously is it's I mean I'm sure somebody listening is going to be like a broken the code but I'm going to be honest if you think you are. You probably haven't you'd be Youtube millionaire right now. Let's PD pilots and the bucket. Which I don't think he does. He also retired. Well no you didn't. I'm sorry Stephanie. He stepped away. Or it's safer. Yeah Yeah I don't know and now that you got a lot of those a lot of those big name youtubers as well or I think they're all like putting they're all starting these which channels too they're all getting into twitch man like they're all going on the big podcasts like the raw show and stuff to Kinda like propel them forward in the Jewish community and they're kind of making a you know but all the I feel like those members so so so. Here's the connection between tuition youtube. Are you ready for this? Ready for this nuclear unlock unlock online at my brain these big. I feel like these big like me. Mors or whatever you WANNA call them they go to twitch just for just chatting and stuff right yeah and then and then the other like actual like people with substance and stuff actually do their gaming and stuff onto a as well right. That's what I think. I think all these all these big you know small clips. Little small attention right. Even the viewers are the same views that just want and jaw amount or the viewers that want something to happen all times You know those toxic toxic community. It's also in the just chatting of twitches. Well yes I feel extra. That's the connection there. That's what I that's what I've been seeing like call me Carson. For example he started just chatting on twitch than some other big ones. Is He a big youtuber? He's like Like another one of those like like mark applying with friends. Mind NO LIKEY WITH CALL. Me Carson. He's like a newer youtuber. That blow up two point five mill cells drivers and yes just like little small clips of Funny Ha. Ha Mimi stuff. Yeah though I mean I think also you could just hire an editor and say clip this. Let's play into the funniest ten parts and probably do fine too. Yeah exactly yeah. I clicked my Speaking of I clicked my Vr. Saints and Sinners stuff that I did with Claudio and I clipped like the eight minutes. I think of just goofy Shit. That happened in that game and posted people liked it now I think ripple but it did well. Yeah I think those small Lippi stuff Gets a lot of attention on YouTube. That's why think you've got a lot of the channels that are like with the stupidest videos like Oh asking five white women what they think about you know. A black penises are a lot of those weird one because they're just small attention like people. I don't know I feel like people. Everyone has. Adhd nowadays man. If does feel like just everybody has. Add everybody has things. Idee good no no go. For a couple of days ago uploaded. A video called Four Games with Inter with excellent environmental sound and it started out and I just said listen to this. Then we'll talk about it at the end and it started in one of the very first post was leave it to carrick to make everybody actually worked for the first four minutes of the video where he doesn't say anything it's just music and then. I said at the end I would talk about it and what I noticed. And he was like you'd like one of the only channels that would be like if you have. Adhd Yank GonNa make like you absolutely. That was literally. I think it was the first guys like. Leave it up to you to be the guy who's just like yeah. You got to work for it. I'll see at the end of the video. But you gotta listen to all this otherwise you know you're not getting any data until you actually listen to the same stuff. I listened to So there is there is some fans. But it's never gonNA grab your. It's not going to be like a trending. Trent that stuff needs to grab. It needs to be you know. Seven eight seconds of me smash it in. The background pretended mad. So is really pretty painful. When you think like I also like don't I don't like to destroy shit now. We see so many videos where somebody's banging you know break and stuff and I'm just like Damn Son. That's a good controller. Like what are you doing man? That's forty five bucks just through against the wall. Yeah what else do we got here? January last thing actually will wrap this up right. You jewelers to did we like. Did you see the in the united sparks controllers like? We're getting some sun next. They're just they're they're basically the same controller same executive and got one extra button. Yeah Oh really Yeah and it's not on the face it's a it's like the start and select button on your xbox controllers like another one share. I think is what it is share or something. Okay well I love the yeah. I'm fine with that I I would have loved you. Know if they built the bumpers in automatically or something but yeah. It's not happen. Wrote my happened with Sony. Sony tried that additional thing. You could buy that plugged in to their controllers. That's out and it got good reviews so needs to change the controllers looking a little bit more economic. Yeah for me at least for big house Actually we don't even worry about. The January stuff is so anybody doesn't want what I was going to bring up. I was going to bring up. The January was quite dead even if you did post videos. Forbes Time magazine. Everybody was posting that for some reason. Traffic was dramatically down in January February. I don't know why I'll just say we went to war. Almost maybe it was that People the people probably don't WANNA watch video game stuff They're also wasn't a ton of games and so I don't really have anything to add to that. And it's all been really. It's been pumping. That's yeah yeah and I think that's more on twitch. I think Youtube hasn't been on in speaking of that young which we've been doing fine. It's youtube where I saw a bunch. Youtube streamers going like herb or a video makers going like Whoa. My views are way down and they very much are like dramatically. Like I get a warning actually in my analytics on Youtube where it's like you know. Here's your percentage drop from last January. Here's your percentage dropped from December. And it's like well you know. The December was star wars and Buchan Prior to that was deaths strain Christmas and Christmas. And Yeah in. January is always slow. This one was a bit slower but It is the way it is so I want to say thanks to APPS for coming on you can check him out on twitch. Abbvie as well as YouTube. What Your Youtube Address Just APPs is will ab SSI on everything twitter you know elegance. Ab what a one time spent at like ab SS. I just know is just to us as into is one. He'll be posting some stuff soon. You guys we'll see some more reviews from me and I gotTa say you get a chance. Please follow us on spotify anchor. I tunes all that kind of Shit at absolutely helps and whenever I post a video if you can tweet it or post on facebook group or read it or anywhere you can wear Fine Amazing Games are discussed. I would absolutely appreciate it especially. I didn't hit November and September because I had some family matters that caused me to not be able to review and that has really hurt visibility on the channel so the more we can get that back to normal the more I will be able to create that. Is it for us? Anything TO ADD AT Z before we were up No thank you guys for listening. Honored to be your thank you so much for having me on. That was a blast to get to talk again. It's been awhile is he just left me in the lurch. I was alone love to just ditched me anyways. Peace out everybody a good weekend or wait. Wait wait wait wait. Not We today. Today's fucking Tuesday. 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Episode 24-7 Video Game Dads with Bedroth

Rhythm and Pixels Video Game Music Podcast

1:47:32 hr | 7 months ago

Episode 24-7 Video Game Dads with Bedroth

"Welcome. To rhythm and pixels eight video game music podcast. This episode twenty four Dash Seven and we are your hosts. My Name is Rob Nichols and I can't stop burke. And every of what's What are you drinking over there for now? Drink. Caught. A. Palmetto. By cracked open this beverage that setting like a month. Now is the right time. Drake it right. This is a celebration. Okay. We'll every week we listen to great see almost grabbed. A sparkling beverage before I came to sit down but I knew. It was like. Beer tonight. I. Every. Every week, we listen to video game music from the past and the present from all consoles all generations and we how sometimes have guests as you can hear on the show right now, we have bedr- off from the GM podcast. GM. Right, it's just very good music Aegean. Jim Squared. Very good music. VGA podcast. Also my acronym could be BGN. Vj squared off abortion. Yes. Thank you for having me. It is a great pleasure and privilege to be on such an. Doing. You could be doing so much more with your Monday night. Let me tell you. Why draw man I want to be right here. We're glad to hear the magic happens. So we wanted to welcome to the show in the way that we welcome everybody to the show. So I need to finish a world one one of Super Mario Brothers as quickly as you can, and then you take a picture of it with a polaroid and then we'll your name and high score to the list. Cornell, help me out here I'm like that. Do that? Guest we. Always went off with you always want to ask is how you doing and welcome to the show yeah. Tell tell us about your show because I'm curious about your show with your co host shoe pal and like what guy. Started and you know. Okay. So little bit of background I have been a fan of the BGN podcast seen for Gosh I guess like six years now I discovered legacy music hour back in. Around that time it all kind of runs together after a certain point but. Then I sort of independently discovered the Super Marcado rose and at that point I was hooked when I found out about the GM, you've box through legacy music hour I started listening to Josh, emily all the time. And then through them, I heard about you guys I heard about and my back and they were still doing pixel tunes heard about Brian. Was Brennan James Now it's Brian Jean. Here it. Okay. And I just sort of everything dovetail because the Marco does also led me to a couple of other podcasts and then I just started wanting to listen to everything I could find so. And then after a while, I have found out you guys all hung out on discordant. So I popped in said Hi and before long I would just I had to do it myself. This was around the time that Alex Ger also started his show and I think he was the one that really inspired me because he's like the Super Superfan as you guys say he's like the. Patron Saint. Set definitely. To the fact that if you listen to either our show back in the day or ED show back in the day. Alex, guest on both of those shoot and he came on he was really nervous like he didn't want to say a whole lot and this guy's like I. Love this so much or do it myself, and now he didn't do it but he's doing it very well like he totally came his own he is. You really did. Around this time last year actually did on the PODCAST VGA embassy and I was a little nervous I've got a very small background in radio. My Dad is actually in his like forty fifth year in Radio He has a Saturday night's show. He's been doing it forever. So I grew around it, but I never really was behind the mic all that much except for doing commercials here and there in high school, and so after it was on edge, show, some of the nerves wore off and I decided I wanted to do my own show and I figure I. Talk Enough. I can probably curious show by myself there are a lot of great solo podcasts out there. But I also really liked the dynamic of you guys for example, and having somebody sort of bounce ideas off of. And I happen to be sitting next to my son what I was doing all this and we had been talking about game music because he likes music video games. And there's like, Hey, would you want to do a podcast with me? Like. Shirt would you want to do and the rest is kind of history? So it was almost an afterthought that I have a co host but I'm so glad I do because it's it's something that I think is unique which I was kind of worried about finding a unique voice amidst all GM podcasts that are out there now. But that's what we do. It's just my son me talking about Games we love games. We haven't played games we want to play. Comparing tastes and just kind of a multigenerational look at. Things, from kind of a father son perspective. That's what we do. It's interesting. We were calling Alex patron saint of video game podcast and Ed is our dad. So he's the father of video game music podcast. And then. That makes Robin Brent of the legacy music hour the grandfathers. Grandmothers grandfathers. Wow, you discovered us through the discovered us through the GM jukebox. I. Think. So I'm I'm not entirely sure exactly like I. said it kind of runs together at some point I know that shortly after you guys started, which was like four and a half years ago almost five. Yeah. Shortly after golf started I discovered you somehow because you only had about a dozen or so episodes at the time when I found guys. And then and I listened because I remember I was actually up putting up Christmas lights. And I had you guys up while I was putting up lights because the headphones kept coming out when I was like reaching up and doing stuff on. The show was really good. and. Then I my commute got cut down and so I had to kind of cut away from. Listening to ones. I've been listening to you for a while and you guys kind of fell off the radar for a little bit. And then I came back like two years later and all of a sudden you had like a hundred. Or more. Like man I've got this backlog now and so now I can't quit anymore have say with them so. I've been with you guys since somewhere around I guess world ten. Thanks for sticking with us and thanks for finally like coming on our show. I know we've been planning this for a while and we've had some difficulty coordinating. because. I have a problem understanding time zones and and we also can't clock really well either hey, hey, well. Okay Sundial right. You gotta you gotTa market on the. Dial Yep his backyard, but see the problem is it was a shady day that day and. The Sundell's. Quite. Well, let's let's jump into today's topic and then because you chose as usual with our guests chose our topic and we'd like for you to pick first. But why don't you describe what this topic means to you and what will be looking at together in what it is? What is what it is? So the topic that I decided to settle on went back to with personnel for little bits on Google chat and decided that made sense. I. Didn't think you guys had done the topic before you know I'm kind of a we just talked about ad being the. podcast Dad. And he and I actually are like the DADS of EGM podcasting because he has this on Logan on the show sometimes, of course, my son is my co host so I figured for me to come on. We. Talked about DADS gaming and songs associated with Dad's in gaming just kind of made sense. And -ironically that's actually why. You guys can take the blame if you want. That's actually why we had trouble coordinating is because I got all these kids I gotta deal with. The matic. It's all. Else as Well. That's. What's going to be your first tune for fatherhood the fatherhood, the video game. Against Pick I okay. I've listened to enough of Gals guests shows I should know that Let me see. I think I'll start with one that I know Cornell. Will enjoy and one that shoot pal I wanted to represent hand a little bit on this show. This is a song from tales of Symphonia, which is one of his favourite games And this Soundtrack was composed by choice soccer rob along with a couple of other folks whose names I always forget because I'm pretty sure soccer did like ninety percent of the soundtrack and I'm almost positive. He did this song and talk about little about why this has to how this ties into the topic when we come back. But the name of the song is beat the angel. You're listening to. beat the angel from tales of Sedonia. Composed by Moti Soccer Rabbi this is picked by bedrock. and. Yeah, this is this is like an evil wedding that turned into a heavy metal band rocking out like like like the the bride and groom were demons and they got married and then like this is like the party afterwards and there were like, let's go. Way To put it. or it was just soccer they got. To play play the wedding. This definitely has that signature soccer avas sound I think. Between the tales series and the Golden Sun Series He's got that sort of like orchestral rock thing going on to. And Yeah so this track. I actually played this back on one of the early episodes of our podcasts. Actually our most popular episodes to this date we called it rivals robes and Frenemies, and it was all about you know like rivals and games played like shadow the Hedgehog was on there, of course and. I think I brought us on for. Gosh Oh in what we played out with. So just like rivals in. Games. Shoupao Bro Song because the character. Kratos who this song sort of centers around starts out in the game as Lloyd's right. Lloyd Irving is the protagonist of the game for anybody who doesn't know. And he's kind of a rival to Lloyd slash sort of men to were. It's gotTa Weird relationship and it was explained to me by fifteen year olds. So Cornell direct me if I'm wrong on any of this. But then spoiler alert. Late, Sir later in the game. You find out that kratos is actually. An Angel. And you also find out that he is. Lloyd's debt. And you have this big confrontation with him in a fight that you are not supposed to win although technically I hear you can. But then it gets really really hard from there and this is the song that accompanies that fight. So it's not feet the angel it's beat. Your. Dad. was. The NANGIS. Rigid. Turn much was such a game that. Has I feel like I never finished it despite like seventy hours at. The game constantly hitching with plot twists like all the time it never stops. Generally, liked the ending is going to have a plot with. Places. Was a quality tile. The whole thing with more and Kratos was a major plus with us really appreciate revealed. There was a there was a tales game we started playing cornell remember remember we were playing one Kim brought over and she was like, yeah, was that was a US. was. One of them and the other one was tales. Zely roundly remember the name of talk looks over at the box in the corner of Marine Oh. Yeah. I'M A and she was like you know you're not really into these action RPG's so I've been playing this a lot I gotta save file. It's a little further in the game and I've unlock a whole bunch of extra items and costumes and stop so we just picked it up and it was like what is even happening this Overwhelming. Dropping into tales. Game. Partway through? I have actually played any of them. I am going to get into Sinfonia at some points. Actually on the Fritz right now, I need to get a new disc drive. That's that's what we use for. Gamecube Games. and. Your shook Appel played through it, and then after that, he switched over and started playing tales of fantasia on in. Rom. A. And And he really wants to try to get a hold of them. But really he just more than anything he wants Lloyd unsmashed. Has. She pleases Flash GAME CALL SUPER SMASH FLASH TO. Is Flash like smash brothers sort of evolve type thing but it's barely really really well supported really well done and Lloyd is one of the characters along with. Dark Age from final fantasy and The One D guy with the spear from Kirby. So some of the Fan Fa Walla, we actually just dropped his last season. So on the fan favorites that people wanted put on. Want. And smash years like since. Phony originally came out one some. I think he'd be really cool. He would have a good as he would have a good. That's. and. This is one of his songs in special fighting game where you can make your own people on. Mugen is. You. Again, I think you can also do that with one of the sort of smash clones came out recently and maybe rivals of aether or something like that. You can make your own character. Curious about that. But yeah, I know. But I. Think. It's something like that. I also think I was pretty much done with my law. Now. It's all right. There's three of us here. I knew it's actually it's nice talking over you guys because. With sometimes, because he's fifteen, it's kind of like pulling teeth to get him to talk if it's not about tales or corona trigger. Got Again. The Airplane playing, with? Ornamental. Granted. If more was there right now to put a capital crime. Now, what are you doing? Very. Nice. That's a nice way to do it. Boy Join the force. You to stop. Stop all the dirty cops and our baby hunter what city that's mature city or they were? Is it San Andreas? Burt. Really okay good. Your city final fight. Reasonably cody and Hagar just smashing up street I. came up at some point I forget me and my wife were talking about final and I was like Yeah I. Love that game because it's like the mayor dislike is like I'm gonNA beat up everybody in this town you know like you can play as the mayor. and Oh. That's right because I was looking for characters games with characters who are fathers, and she said, what about foul play because you're hanger to save his daughter I actually thought about Haggar. But he also make sure to rip off his shirt before he does that mean does that make him like a cool dad or is he like I, don't know like. Are you kidding me? Of course, it makes them a cool day got kidnapped. I'm saying I'm saying, maybe he was do this. He was working too many long hours on the job right and how did crime metro city way out of hand and you know They addressed it in the game four Scott. Third. I shouldn't be so critical of his of his work you know I i. Don I don't know him and I don't live in Metro. City? He was putting so much of an emphasis on his. Campaign rather chicken and every. Diamond Everyti- IN A. Trash can. Move on to Stephanie. So. Funny For now, what's your first track of the night? I can't top that man to. got. Start with this one, we can I feel like this is very unsung father in video gaming. And of all that could have gone with you know. Glass of God Award I. Had to go back to the classic. This is the game earth now. Title Track of title track is by something will you posed the here causing Tanaka and? Suzuki. You're listening to buy something. From, the game earthbound for the Super Nintendo composedly trousers Naga. Zouqi. Rub. His. Disparaging with. was. So give us the why the world would you. To use this track. As your own no, it's just that you were like you're like I'm into this track. I'm like I. Don't know if this sounds like a cornell track. You know there's It's not like you know super duper fast with. Intimate you know girl screaming in the background. Muscle. Loosen recovered. Okay. But I'll do the jokes aside the earthbound Os Tia, the whole is very different from what you would expect across the board. Yes. has also a large part of what makes it special to me. This track, it's just a nice shopping jingle that place you go different drugstores and depots shopping malls wherever the heck you're going to buy baseball bats, drying pains, trash Burgers, fries shakes, skip sandwiches whatever your heart desires this james playing over your shopping choices. But why would I pick this track on an episode devoted bothers well. I feel as though the most one of the most unsown care hero characters in all gaming is actually necessary father who you actually never see in the game. This is Dan is represented by a telephone. because. You have to call him on the phone you're to save your game. And whenever you call him the reason why you never see him because he's always at work. The entire time you're on your Adventure Ness Dad's at work. Megan money. Given that money to. Buy Wave ATM deposits. Yeah it's very real like a made made is like it I think I feel like they tried to make the world even more real within the game. So they're like you're father is a salaryman. Never home. So yeah. So your father is really only the telephone. Incorporated into as a mechanic of the game, which is amazing too because we have on the table like from a game mechanics perspective, the money earned his earnest based on the enemies you fight as you fight evil Ramle Muster Room he's probably twenty five dollars. And but you don't get the money until you call your father to learn he deposit the money until Your Bank camp. Now. Even though obviously mechanically ness is earning the money from fighting enemies. From the Matic standpoint. Your Dad is bankrolling your entire adventure. And there's something to be said about that because. Yes. The children are out there fighting evil with their psychic powers and big bottle rockets in Poo. If you're never anybody cutting you those checks. You wouldn't be getting very far because you so many trash cans hamburgers before you need some kind of show. So There was a flaw, a flaw in Hagar's like grand plan for the city. There was totally the thing is. I think the whole reason why those guys didn't get sick because he ran on adrenaline for the entire venture but once the game was over the daughter was saying in the meg year was shutdown so they got sick. They were behind city. Hall. And the daughter was so confused like understand what's going on? You just took like thirteen bullets from guy, you're sick male. Trash can. We. Drinking. Girl Chandeliers on your head flaming. Caucus. Oh, no trash can Turkey. Mesh That's the slogan. That's Just reelection slogan. That's perfect. Just barely fits on a street sign drive on. Ours trash cans. Turkey. keepdriving side it will mess you up. or I will miss you up just picture the guy driving nodding his head in agreement like. Will. I don't know what the artwork for today's episode is going to be, but it's going to hang in it somewhere. In Turkey from. There you go. Man. Really. Glad. You picked this song. It's great. I actually almost went with. Dr Doughnuts the just yet. But. He's. He's kind of a crappy dead like when when you go to see him and you have jeff in your party, he actually talks about how Jeff Weltman. Simply. You can just. You. If it weren't like a sixteen bit sprite based gave Jeff would be like. Pretty Clear in the game that Jeff has trouble making friends and like national and Paul his first. Does like my son himself. As dead. Like he dropped him off at this boarding school that's in the same country that he's in. He's like just on the other side of the island in his lab he could go see jeff anytime but he apparently hasn't seen him for like years and years I'm like I'm not GonNa honor this guy with a song. Because I wanted to do something earthbound and then you found a way and it's a great thing. I feel good. Goodness. Yeah. Right so So my first track is I didn't Wanna I thought of this theme. This'll game immediately came to mind, but then it was so dark in its theme. In again, the game steamed that I thought maybe I shouldn't. But then I listen to the soundtrack again, and then I remembered how beautiful the music isn't this game and I think we've never played it on the show before it really should be represented. The game is called Papuan Yo. Which means father and I. It's composed by brain. Brain, but it's definitely Brian. Area. This is called Lula's resurrection talk more about the game when we get back but in reminding myself about the game I just got really sad. So I'm GonNA play the music. It's called luas resurrection from Papa and Yo- by Bryant Oliviera. And we're back. You're listening to Lula's resurrection from the Game Papa and Yo- composed by Bryant Vieira. And I had to pick this this track from this game because it is about. You play a young kid. WHO discovers a fantastic? His city that's populated by a giant monster that's just awful and goes off onto a wild. Anger. Terrifying rage when he eats too many of these like green fruit items in the city and it's kind of like a puzzle game where you're sort of a manipulating this giant monster so that you can get through the city and so that you can get things done. But, the game does not make any. Allusions to how strong of a metaphor it is for. That is your father who is drinking and doing terrible things. The fruit is the alcohol. And the the city whether you're seeing is how the child is able to escape in his mind and so he's creating these adventures in his head. It's all about how he's trying to manage his father's kind of rages and alcoholism so that he can kind of escape from that life, but it gets it gets worse and worse and worse. So. This is Lula's resurrection. Lula. is his toy robot. That is in the game become comes alive and sort of like direct semi where to go in the city. At one point in the game he's destroyed and then they find a play, they find a way to to resurrect, and there's like a shot that like fixes the the robot. It's sweet but it's also terrifying at the same time. the end of the game it tells you for sure exactly what's going on? It seems heavy handed but like I feel like it's more important that the. At the game developer against designers. Or Upfront about what you're experiencing. But what killed it absolutely made me. So mad was after about ten hours I couldn't put this thing down. I. Felt like I had to see it through like watching a horrible law and order episode that like he Had like the most disgusting terrible things happening and you had to watch it to the personal some kind of resolution and then it had ice tea. Yes. There was an ice tea in this game completely different but. You get to the end and it was like finally like a little bit of a release, a little bit of a resolve. Just experienced this person's like autobiography and we get to the end of it and it's like Oh you'll play new game plus discover all the Like no would do the hat. Paid. Again, let's like like what man don't don't want replay. Replay ability and a game where you're trying to escape her abusive father it's just makes. It. A little upset about that. I mean I. don't I have a feeling that was not intended. Maybe it was that does seem a little tone, deaf. Yeah but. But the music is incredible. It's got these. These he's accused these classical guitar sounds. Rhythm it's really good when ten situations like the like the rhythm section the drums get really loud. It's so cool. I really encourage anyone who? If, you have the energy to check this out. It's on the streaming service on playstation. Very. Very good. It's very hard to to see. Cuts close to the bone if you have anything like that in your past. So still a little bit of a trigger warning they're. Not GonNa feel this way on a cut into my end remember at the end of the show. But it's worth noting now because I think it fits, which is the say that I don't earlier like man I picked this track is kind of a complete opposite end of the spectrum compared to the ones you guys pick yet but the thing about it is that I think is a very brilliant. because. A lot is when shows like ours in other mediums, discuss parenting and fatherhood other who? Is always positive in the spectrum of my dad bought me ice cream on. Fridays, and we played star soldier on the Indiana with a great time of but. At the same time not everybody's so fortunate to have such you know childhood. And though it something that that was the case, it is something that should be now at one not just to. Validate those people had those experiences also. It goes a long way to show that. You ever hear people say things like you. He will you're doing a good job of the father and then someone will respond with well, of course you are is what you're supposed to do. You're supposedly a good day. Well, yeah. You're supposed to be a good father and your dad is supposed to be good to you. Now everybody's that fortunate. So despite the fact that statement is true. It is worth valuing the fat. You do have a good father you have Galician father if you do. It you don't. You are not forgotten and people do know you exist in the acknowledged your experience? It's not under the rug in any way shape or. I should say just. Four hundred anybody who's close to listening should know that now my my my childhood, this was great. It was five my my relationship with my father was difficult. But there was nothing like this it was. Great. My parents were really they did. They did everything in the world for us. So. And they care that my dad was closer to the earth bound. Honestly. With this man, he's been time at work. Yeah. Mine too mine too. I think that was like a I'm not sure if that was that was like a ninety s thing or not. But definitely, like the latch key kid nineties thing like hardcore for sure. Are Still. Want to save something like this for later in the show is funny little didn't like my dad's been A. he worked as a chef or a high in restaurant. of course, you know back then just because there was a high end restaurant, he was a chef doesn't mean it paid well, it just means that getting spent well But while working there for crazy hours, he learned how to make some very strategy and dishes the kind of stuff. I wish I could creek. Let me tell you something. People would love the kind of dishes that my dad used to make at work however. Whenever it was time those rare times where he was actually home and my mom was at work or out somewhere and he was watching us we were all like dinner talent debts cooking the see what crazy dishes go to prepare I got. So excited air comes hotdogs bakes. Sugar. Whereas the of the filet mignon dare. Do. I'll say those like that in my house until my dad discovered the food network, it got really into like the celebrity chefs like Emerald Legacy, and then suddenly like every Sunday night, it was like something crazy my dad wanted to try and calm but he puts them Cayenne and. Everything. Do. It was good. It was really good. By had a handful of things that he didn't cook a lot but there were a couple of things he made. Awesome NACHOS. Made a really good omelettes and so whenever he would make make any of those things, I would always get super excited. And a good relationship with him growing up as well. He helium. Baggage. I have a couple of half siblings from his previous marriages and did not go well when he was younger, he's actually quite a bit older than I am. He's going on eighty now. which is a lot of I think our generations debts. But he He was always really good to me. I think because he felt like he had something to prove to himself at that point. And even with some like inner turmoil that he had, he never channeled that toward me. So I was always kind of grateful to him for that. I? Didn't even see it until I was much older. And We had a good enough relationship that now even though we argue about just about everything when it comes to politics, we can still actually sit down and have a conversation about those things. So different. Age father-in-law around that age. That's very. Very similar strained conversations around that topic. Something about that. It's painful. Yeah. The politics thing I feel like you two are on the opposite end of the parent politics. Argument or back and forth whereas my case. I. Think my father and I are on the same page with all takes from a general perspective. But the thing about it with he and is that it rob can attest to I can get. Very. Earn critical I'll get very critical things. So even though I'll say, okay with this individual or the situation I'll still the however neither acknowledged these negative aspects because you don't want to give you. Talked about it he's like. You can't say that this is purvie. Everything's perfect nothing wrong just importantly no. Talking about everything that took down Balsam baked beans and hot dogs. We gotTA talk about this. Go Go. But? I do like that as I think. I'm okay with that and says because it gives me that beat my head against the wall challenge of convincing my father or something like you guys described to but. Say Time at least. I'm thank we telling me someone like dead. The head. July with it. Goes back not do that. Let's Let's run things back around. We're back to you. Mr Bedrock for your seconds track of evening. Our as my seconds listen to the show whenever they feel like. Threats says, right. As a shoebox always tells me I always want to in the my show with you guys have a great night's. Could be like listen in the morning. Drive or whatever? Shut up. Solid period of the day or evening. So I settled on a track from firearm bloom path of radiance and I. Don't know. Actually I do know where this came from so. I had a different set of tracks and then I remembered you know what? I really would kind of like to play with fireable because I remember there's really good like fatherhood moments in the series. With most recently in. Viral three houses, one of the. Tank curator's early on is actually your dad who's like this major night who fell away from the church but I'm not gonNA get into it. It's really really long story. Then of course, there's Crom from viramune awakening. Who is the man mean curator but also the dad like the secondary protagonist. And so I thought about doing something from one of those but then that led me back to this track and I liked it so much I actually bumped other track for this one. This song is it plays in one of the cut scenes win Ike who is Christian character in path of radiance and a major character in radiant dawn. Is Sort of having to take charge of this mercenary band for one of the first timers. The mercenary band that was founded by his father grill for whom the mercenaries are named. And the track is called his father's son. and. It took me a while to find this composer because she is not one of the five main composers listed on the credits. But after doing a little bit of digging, I did determine that the song was composed by longtime firearm L- series composer. Yuka Suji. Yoko. You're listening to his father's son from path of raises path of raising pat of. Reasons. Overly veteran. His father's son from path of radiance post by Yuka Suji Yoko, now's picked by BEDR-. Office is Nice I. Love I. Love the instrumentation in his track man this is good. This came out of a game cube in. This is really good. Yeah, it's tough. I was. Listening I love firearm long path of radiance and an radioed on their. especially radiant dawn they're really heart but the stories in these games are just just super super good. I've already a lot episode really briefly. So Grael is dead in path radiance and he was one of the like big time like head nights. He was part of this like a group of four nights like supported the royals of this kingdom. And then at some point, there is some bad business like magic medallion and revolve his wife was able to like hold the medallion because she was pure of heart or whatever, and so he can corrupt her but then he grabbed at one day and it. went he went in this like Berserk rage and killed a bunch of people, and so then he had to go into exile and that's how he came like a mercenary bandleader instead of a night of the kingdom. And now that whole situation is I sister now curious that pendant and grail always telling to stay away from it but at the same time, he's like his mentor. I actually think this song might play early on in a skirmish that you would leading band against grail and there's some really really cool father son moments and dynamics and just kind of. A. Tough love teaching him the ropes of like being a military leader ends. This song religious capsule that whole part of the game has got that style. Of Early kind of tutorial kind of feel to it where it's like it's a sounds important, but it doesn't sound like you're going to get walked by Dragon. Yes. No game is kind of about see coming of age and growing into his father's shoes and. So. I. Ended up liking this better than either anything from awakening war three houses I just felt right I can't make that COM avenue played. Three houses and I sucked at wake me because boilers cornell use the cursing. And it backfired on them anyway. So let's count the. That's backfired on Weiss. It's only twice twice. Will never speak of it again. Gradients is not the first them game that I played. However, it is the first game that I really got into right really came into, enjoy it beginning to end obviously, not one sitting, but it was one of those rare times play a game it off leave you know go about my day come home the next day you know do it all over again until it's done and just kept coming back. I was drawn to it night. I. Seem to allow the relationship with the grill mercenaries large part of what kept me going like their whole their whole dynamic. It's darn good game such a good game. It really is. The best one in the series. Only on game cube or if I had a switch played on switch to Earth on the game boy. Ethically realized. He has to be the we the least the wheel or the review. which at least? Could probably figure out a way to like get it on the switch for you somehow. Magic but we'll ask father. I don't know why Nintendo is still sitting on. This could just like make bank if they released like a radiant collection with path rates read. licensed. Of other uses for the fire emblem characters, they throw him into smash brothers. Right. All saw someone say. So it's All right. So now, why don't you go ahead with your next track? I was torn on picking from this game. Icons decided to go with because normally takes this game. It will likely be Boston us not this time vending. But I am going to go it. So this game is called dead rising to. Track title is all fortunate the light and is composed by only. Loza. Welcome back A. Shale in relaxed to or Chins delight in the game dead rising two components by ovation. Love, and if you've never played dead rising and you hear the title. Track. You are probably very confused right now as to what the heck this is doing in this game. Pick it up. The song is so I'm taking is that's used fantastic song man. Good Good. It's so Im-, believe it or not. It doesn't seem fitting at first, but it actually doesn't work with the game because for those not in the note premise bed rising. If you are planning a man chuckling who is a motorcyclist? WHO and ours? I don't remember the one hundred percent, Lakers job was he was he was entertainer motorcycles Don. He worked on show to earn Monica daredevil shell sorts to earn money in order to. Las Vegas. Show. But the Las Vegas Games called Fortune City. And he worked on the show, daredevil show to earn money to buy something called Psalm bricks for his daughter. Dom brex a medication in this game universe that halts temporarily ultras rb infection buyers that people contracting due to contact with Psalms. So he was basically spanning the entire game fighting through four design these once you know the pandemic broke out in the mall. Or importance any he's been the entire game fighting through hordes of zombies and Mosser's psychopathic humans. To find a way out but also to constantly locate in deliver. Doses of Zombie bricks or his sick daughter. And as you progress through this mall this place. Casinos in these restaurants. Rather. Than Give you this rock and soundtrack or whatever, which they did. Reserve infect the boss fights. They let you listen to what you actually here if you're walking through lobby. At a hotel which would be something like this I really like like if you got. Four. American. Rodeo restaurant was like Rick Rodeos near the your. Hit All those causes of lakes note in a way that. I just I forever appreciate and. Do the fact that you spend so much of your time in this game whiting through these through food courts and. More hallways and such, just deliver this medication to your cable for the clock runs up. You're here musically this constantly. It is both soothing in frustrating because you want the journey to be done. You want the kid you want to beat the tar out of a psychopath path pushing a shopping cart bid it would sound with all bleed. Crazy games re open world where you can like run into shops like you pick up like children's clothes and you try to put them on and you can pick like weird helping try. To. Your like. Running back career just minutes to spare ticket the medication to your daughter and you're like. You're like wearing like a superhero outfit with like no shoes in like a weird like monkey mask on your face and your daughter. Fathers You. No one's no one's confused concerned about while you're dressed like a psychopath on for hours again, you come back you're covered in blood and you're like you're wearing a diaper and you're carrying a rattle and like I got the Youth Asandra. Anchor chugging giant picture of orange juice for some reason. Yeah. That's the only way to get a bloat. Road. What. Crazy guys. That's what makes me think of a giant bloody diaper wearing? I didn't realize the US on the music was performed by dweller so. Oh. Yeah. I. One track from told us in the game in place during the boss fight with. A chef Antonio surprise he's cooking humans and zombies. But. Also attract there was instrumental version of it that plays and that track what I used to hearing in pump it up. So I'm just GONNA chocolate. Also embiid rising two yeah. Yeah. Heard some of the music like this is like. The. Early. Two thousands like rap rock type sound like Oh cell dweller that all all tracks together now. Whom? Ropley little because he had a good description but better off, have you played any dead rising to? One. I have not. Was it ever out on any NINTENDO systems? Are Actually yes. Though really looked at it as being probably wanted the more inferior ones because of the tech at the time debt rising one. Got Us. We are we for. that. Really. Okay. So if it was like only way to try, it might still be worth giving it a shadow of the week but the concern was that due to the weak power compared to the xbox three sixty time. Yes. Concerned about how many zombies populated on the screen at one time because it was a lot it was a huge I've only I've ever seen lots place of the game to be I. Remember I remember some frame rate issues back then with a we hardware. But yet as a lot of my listeners now I'm kind of famously uh I'm limited the to Nintendo consoles because of money and time constraints we just don't I just don't have enough time to spread out golden years you're going to be full of things like. bioshock and got a war and. Shadow of the Colossus and all the other stuff that I haven't gotten to play yet because. Find, that is if you still have library gift through be playing exclusively superintendent, it doesn't free matter. As long as you have to play, you're enjoying them. Save Your Money Machine psychopaths like. What is the protagonist name in this game? On Chuck Green. Green that's a blue one with I get all these dombi games mixed up the one with his name. Frank, West Frank. Is the first one, right? Yes. First one. And the big joke about him the common. Wars you know. Gotcha Yep I've seen him in some crossover stuff before like the moreover on that. So that's that's my connection with this series. Know a little bit through after frank less he's also as you have. It's. The Cross to. Yes. Yeah man that was crazy. Everybody's getting there. That was a weird game. It was Super Fun. So. The I duNNo. I've only ever seen it through a let's play. It's. The game comes from slate the whole thing, and honestly, if ever need a good laugh I watched that series because it's so they're so stupid they they take their time they never learn how to play the game properly they just dialogue spirit. Good. I about them they do that. So they don't even bother reading instructions. Like I would if I were ten. All right. So. My last track. Torn between to pick the one most about still having had played it. This is shower with your dad's simulator two, thousand fifteen. The composer is unknown. But this is heist. high-energy action packed game about showering with your dad. This. Track is called the Euro Dad, which is one of the one of the game notes and let's listen to. Composers unknown. I. Think it might be the developer, but I'm not sure the developers at this moment. Beautiful. Be. Thinking actually we have a, we had contest going on with the special attack moves or whatever, and now the Sepah that'd be thinking like a cool. Cool father son Combo attack the. In the Simpsons Arcade game, right? You can have like the Combo attack of like homer and Bart. Yeah big. Would sit on my shoulders one of my favorite arcade memories. Is I. Would I was I was playing that game at A. Whole the Peter Piper Pizza. It's Kinda like chucky cheese but that's different. You know. Same type of thing though and three other people came over all playing the simpsons machine, and at one point, we just stopped in the action so that we could see what all the different combinations were. Liked their special with the other person. It was super cool. Really totally to Leeann sink. I. Never I never knew they were. Eating at that time, which was also really cool. Barton Liza. The Best Combo though. Yeah. When I was a kid I, never I never saw the combination moves into. Track mode and I was like, how do we do that I? Don't stand next to each other. Tanger-. We're a back. You're listening to Utero Dad from shower with your dad's simulator two, thousand fifteen. Weird mess. Man. Shall We? Talked about this on the show before. We might have talked about the the the game is like a It's just like it's kind of like a match match game where it's kind of three dimensional. It's very, very pixellated and you're trying to find your dad in the in the correct shower stall and so based on like your skin tone in your hair. You have to find the right father. and. So so you don't want to walk into the wrong stall because that would be awkward. Then you walk into the wrong debt so it's Constantly, changes like who you are. Bernard. Yeah but so like really was like, okay. This match shape to match colors, shapes, match colors instead let's make make them like now people in your in shower and you have to go to the right dad and so if you go to the wrong data, it's wrong dad and you're like, oh Golly. Angry angry parent. A creepy parent creepy. Not Creepy. It's normal dude. I'd Green. Creepy There's things in Europe that are not normal over here. Sir. No. It's just it's just trying to find your it's Sad you know he's lost Boston happens to be lost in a shower disclaimer I. I am from Texas. So take what I say with a grain of salt. Oh my God. I guess the last skateboarding dead. Yeah. It's cool dad right. Cool. Cool. skateboarding. Dad's what's going to be at the. Double Ali six, eighty somersault. With a twist. Tony Hawkes pro skater because he is the ultimate dad right. All this BOHM's. All right. So I'm going to turn this track down and we were going to get into the part of the show we call the bonus round. Voters Frist. I don't know what A. Photos. Rail. Bonus round brought to you think Nabisco burn around is the the the bonus round his cookies The bonus round the part of the show replay. Arrangements and remixes based on our theme, and then I realized I probably should have written down what I'm GonNa say is I not talking correct So this is arrangements and remixes based on our theme. That, we do at the end of every show and we'll go to you BEDR- off What did you find for us today? Sir Okay well first of all honorable mention I almost went with a song called the Ballad of Jeff, which is by one of my favorite youtube. Parody artist who goes by the name of parental floss many many of y'all. He was most well known for his like comedy video game songs but the Ballot Jeff is actually a pretty straight shooting song about how it would have felt to be jeff in earthbound like growing up with this distance that in winters and it's really really cool So like it lot recommend it. But instead I was inspired by a game that I actually just recorded an episode about with Shoupao and my daughter goes by dusk lights. And that is under tale. It's what I mentioned under tail anybody who has played. Its will know that I am probably going to play the theme for as Gore. Who is not only the dad of one of the pivotal characters in the game but also the final boss sort of depending on what mode you're playing in and how it goes anyway. We'll get into that after the track but this is as Gore the academics remix she's remix artists in it. She he she. This based on Bergen trucking and as Gore I, Toby Fox originally from under tail. Wall South. But. This is like the most remixed soundtrack on. Youtube, it's really really popular. I mean I'm sure that within the context of the game itself, there's there's a good reason why it's very popular but I haven't gotten there yet. So by will I'm you've been listening to the as Gore Activists Remix? Composed by Toby Fox and remixed by ACA toast apoptosis toasts. and. That was bedrocks tuned. Do this was awesome I really really love the energy track actually the other said the sense section, the the the list, the lead section halfway Kinda. I think the rhythm like GonNa jump. Golic, HALF BLUES E for a second there, and then just came right back in. It was really cool. I, like what did. I. Think that's a estimates de original composition as well to me. Fox has some real real musical chops and melds. It's funny because the game is like. A Mishmash of different genres like Jerry PG and visual novel and Bullet Hell and platformer and different stuff, and musically, he can do the same thing where he just kind of goes in and out of these different styles and a remixer at a really good job of definitely like making it their own. This is obviously like a techno dance be dropped mix. But it's still stays true to like the original feel I. I found this through a game chops, which you think was that started by Yeah Yeah. So region drop advance. From our town. No No. So, obviously, a high pedigree. But this is a really great. Game Charles. You think Pernilla oh I was down house getting my head off on that won't be. Brought up to ask like how civil or is this to the original track because? If the original was even like still like dancy asked though just not this tobacco and very surprised but. I like this. This is good stuff. You brought the thunder funder. Thank you. And since the two of you have not played, I'm not going to go into a whole great lot of detail but one of the pivotal characters in this game is young. Goat monster boy named Azriel. And His dad he's the prince of the underground all the monsters live and ask for is his debt. So he's like this big like, Ram, headed dude with giant Trident and he's not evil. But he's very powerful and he's very determined and. The to the the song just really encapsulates him and he's driven by both a feeling of. Protectiveness. But also with a hint of vengeance for something that happened a long time ago. And he's like. I don't know. It's it's. He's very multifaceted like character and I I think that that's why I thought of him for the dad episode because that is kind of his defining characteristic is his relationship to Azriel and some of the other kid characters in the game but he also just like so many other characters detail. He's such a strong character just in enough himself. Very. Cool. So. Basically Richard ultimately saying is we should play. We should play the game. Yeah. I would highly recommend it I personally as a patron, I would bump up my tier to watch you guys play this game on the let's play. That would be really we need to get on that cornell like our. Reactions to. While I'm taking notes other any other games you would want to see. Let's play. About firemen awakening. On. Nightmare Our. Excuse me. Under. Tale would be my pick but. Now I think a lot of a lot of my fellow patrons would have some feedback there. It's a cornell. Next patron topic submit a song from a game that you want to see. Let's play. Maybe. One maybe when we actually start start doing it, we'll. We'll bring that around. Did. Well not necessarily mean you get a list of stuff you want to see. It's like you already know that by starting in order to pick something that utilize have one audience member for. Yeah I guess so I guess but I, like to do content i. That's my that's my ethos. You've content. Okay. I. Like to be, prepared. All right. So what's your bonus round pick? I honestly felt that with the topic being about dead's I had to pick a track from one of the Games that sparked the conversation. I would have with a friend where we were talking a lot about the rise of the dead game as we recall. Dead Games being games where they the creators intentionally spark the paternal instinct in the player. Make you want like invest your energy harder because of the whole idea of protecting a child or helping a child in that regard This game was deathly verse for me able to Holy Crap I feel it feel it that game being bioshock which you? As he mentioned earlier in the episode, Draw Money Enough this Iraq to play this game. It looks really cool. Yeah I think you'll like it if you played bs at any point in life and you'll love bioshock. This track is a cover to co him to masterpiece from the game and it was composed rather covered by artists that goes onto the name of a ten piano. Yeah I. Try I try I mean this artist arranger has a lot of information online does a lot of transcriptions of their work in you can download all of the sheet music and it's really really cool cannot find this person's real name. So just adding piano. No attain a ten attend. All right. Well, let's listen. Back you listening to cover of Cohen's masterpiece from the game bioshock covered by a ten PM. This well first of all, it may be a secret honestly what I am I'm a huge fan of piano covers. More even more. So when it's a piano cover of national piano tuned from game so this was kind of a no brainer. But the other reason why picked it in relation to the theme of the game? It's like I mentioned earlier relieved to the whole dead games. I like the element of how this game hitting with that feeling because I I is not even about you being a father you're just some Guy plane goes down and then you end up in this underwater city work crazy people are running around hopped up on drugs, and amidst all this, there are these girls with syringes running around with giant Fishman men wearing giant soups ball around protecting them for some reason and. The Lord of the game has so that these girls are actually kind of like jar with some drug, a power second drug call Adam. which the residents are really interested in seek. Now, it gives them power and You as the player are able to basically defeat their guardians, the big daddies, and then take the girls in harvest the drug from within them thereby killing if you wanted to go that route know power and all that. But no, you don't want to do that because that's crazy. He's a little girls they're running around with syringes you want them, you don't want to hurt him. You WanNa take the surrenders for them soon, home with your choice. Though, right you're given the choice exactly and though it's pretty obvious by the end of the game, which is the better from a gameplay. Perspective early on the game, they make it pretty much. Well, sound like you know harvesting the girls is more the better play to get more power in the game to do better. But despite thousand none enough this one and almost kind of went well with the Cornell's hard mode challenge like no, go the harder out do the right thing save these kids you know. So, in happened was play the game and you would still have to fight the big daddy's because even though you were protecting the girls, they were protecting them just harvest Adam from corpses and stuff. It wasn't a good job wasn't a delightful little sister but once you defeat the big daddy's, you can liberate the girl they become normal girls. Again, I'll be with a bit of power and they ended up going back to this or in the game. So where's of happening go to all the KITTEN caboodle the game we'll be all day at the end of the game you ultimately defeat the big bed and the kid little sisters even help you do that. And then when you escape city, your main character actually adopts five little sisters. I look the total amount of them because when I play through right while he adopted every little sister were been nuts but that just goes to show how big of a hardy would have had but it goes this whole touching montage of him, taking care of all the little sisters raising them with his own kids and then when he dies, they're all standing by his bedside as adult women like morning is loss like it's this it's a very touching touching things like this guy up unbeknownst to him situation out of his control vice through a madcap water city of Matt of psychopaths. In comes out with a family. After one, the experts, the bus at no one ever talks about what is he is my favorite aspect what if you harvested the power from all of the the girls in the game? Well, basically, you don't get as certain upgrades. You don't get because the little girls have someone watching over them. So to speak who wants to save them but what I know my you saving the girl, she reward you for not being Mostra like other people in the city. But if you don't Save, don't save them, don't get those things and. Essentially di. Different than. Right. Yeah, it's different, but I'll never get into. Youtube but. I don't WanNa be that guy? I'll be honest. There are games I play where you know a lot of games you can evil warranty me good and I even those video game with virtual choices with no real consequences I have a lot of trouble being the bad guy in the game I was playing. Ten say apocalypse and there's a crucial moment the game we have to choose whether or not you want to bed and humanity and your friends to support like a God who honestly for a number of ways he's not really all that warm with his approach it's just. Just, how you approach is how you came about it. You know that's how he feels but his desire to achieve that goal comes at a malicious cost and it's like, okay now's the time do have to choose and I'm like, I can't do that. So I turned the game off. Shutting off. It every time. I go back is telling me once he. Wasn't. Telling me is you gotta do I want to do it can't do it. But. It's it's it's a rough thing because ultimately I don't want to retrieve my friends in the game and I don't want to doom humanity all the good people that you meet throughout the game Jimmy some horrible people in those games but. People who don't deserve that you don't WanNa hurt them. You don't want to condemn them. So you like no. Go that route. But then The choice to turn the game. To make that choice to. Turn off. Your tail. There's a lot of laws than what you're saying and under tail like you would. You'RE GONNA love it when you eventually play it because that's the elements of choices like the pivotal thing in that game. Is something I've heard. Yeah and in in every battle in every character, there's there's lots of choices that you can make. My bonus round comes from game where you have. Probably one of the most iconic fathers and video games. Cut Amari democracy and your father is the king of the entire cosby. Your just the prince having to clean up his mess. After a night of whatever he was doing destroying the cosmos. So this is from another. It's why the earlier. Game Chops remix albums that I've heard. This is by Dj Joe, who's an incredible composer in his own right and this is the role me in remix one of my favorite songs from the game. Catamaran democracy. I'm all. In Not. announced. This you. Just. Voice. Off. Aw. I am. Smallpox. She. Next. Cockayne Katie. I'm. Gone. Connects you found. Saddam. You. Feel. Smooth. I. My. Jaw. That was rolled me in remixed by DJ JOE from Colorado Democracy. And Yeah that's one of my favorite remixes from that that album and one of my favorite original song. Absolutely. It's it's super super cool. Let's. Keep some of that chill vibe and then ads like these really heavy cool. Eight sent sounds. Into that sure he was dancing. Bumping. was bumping right for more information on the bonus round part of our show go to rhythm and PIXELS DOT COM. We'll have links to all of these artists. Bank camps in Santa Claus everywhere where you can go by this by this music this music and support the artists. Thanks for joining us on Episode Twenty Four Dash Seven of rhythm pixels. Czar look. At the patriarchy. Now, this is our father fatherhood with bedrock. From Fiji, GM, the very good music podcasts. Thanks for joining us. We should. Be It's been a blast. Vga Square there you go. Swear. So. Yeah. Yeah. This has been a good topic for some really really good tunes feel like we've got a wide range of Shahnawaz covered. Cover today. The honorable mentions that are either of you had in your back pocket. Thought about dropping sweet. So I'm. Rico was on the roster. Musically. I couldn't think of anything I want but there was the god of war recent release because. Specifically because I felt that was inching leaked because up until that game I. Genuinely in with much contempt heated the character credos and though I don't like him per se now. I. Did like the element of them like throwing that last bit of like, Hey, you know his guy trying to do the right thing in his war-torn the end of his tour life or whatever. But like I had that course last of us good for the whole father. The Dad. Give bit. CODAN I actually watched looked at a couple of different dad lists, dads and games jog my memory for this and creatives was at the top of several of the ones I saw because of the latest. Got We're game so. I thought about Bowser, but I couldn't find a great track from a game when he was really like a dad that symbolize semi I guess I could have gone with something for Mario Sunshine but. No I if the couplings really are his kids which apparently there is some debate about you know he's He's quit quite the dad you know. Magic. Kingdom. I. Guess He is the father figure to the kids, but he can also be the father figure to Mario and Luigi I. Mean. They're out there alone. Stopping you. Are the. Only. The only humans. Are we talking about this. Until the whole. Thing. Yeah I don't know. I don't know. Because just like a humanoid fungus creature. A facebook post above that two days ago to the year when they announced peach. Toad. And your paycheck that was like this just ruined my mind with the Morio meet those because up until now I assume that Tosa was literal humanoid who just happen to rule over the kingdom. Of Mushrooms, and now we've learned that she's just mushroom with a crank. I wonder you and I. Both I think almost brought something from the game octo Dad deadliest catch. The, that's right. There's some really great music in that game and none of it actually ended up. I would encourage our listeners definitely check out that soundtrack is there are some really actually had to I had two tracks. Picked for that episode, almost wanted to the bonus round because the theme song is Super Funny but then I ended up. Just because I really like Amari. I had to do that fireable track after founded. So. My memories I think I can throw a track from Odin sphere to actually. That's right. Usually Just the becomes a matter of. Thinking hard and realize. This game grandfather Sunday now if game agrees bothersome and but then I just beat online for certain this is the one. What I'm doing well, your mind gravitates towards where like the music remember being really good. We. All right. Well. Before we sign off. Before we sign off area bedrock can. Our listeners find your show. So. You can find me on. My podcast home is anchor dot FM SLASH VGA. Anchor is a podcast hosting service that. 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Blazor Catch-up with Chris Sainty

The .NET Core Podcast

1:08:18 hr | 3 months ago

Blazor Catch-up with Chris Sainty

"Hello everyone and welcome to the e. dot net call podcast the only podcast which is devoted to donate coke. Aspca dot net netco f signal and not getting the don't they co-community the itself. I am your host jamie park line taylor and this is episode. Sixty seven blazer in withdrew saint in this episode. I talk with chris about blazer and he's new book in action from manny. Publishing press microsoft. Mvp speaker and creator of a whole heap of open source stuff around blazer as such for the blazes hashtag define them all so. Let's sit back. Open up a terminal type in any but cast let the show begin. So thank you ever so much crispus spending some more of your time talking dot net with manno that you've got. I mean we talked earlier on just off of the. You've got so much stuff going on specially with a new level on so congratulations on that and mvp in the book the writing and all of these hundreds elephant jillian i think is the actual number of open source libraries. You going on so thank you so much. Take time for that. That's i really appreciate. It is my pleasure jamie as always. Thanks yes yes. Love the focused. Thank you very much so for the for the new listeners. Who may not have actually being on the show before Back in. I believe it was a yeah. I read it in july two thousand nineteen so the second appearance. I think there's only one or two people of being on the show so you're in a very exclusive club right now so it's i mean it's not as exclusive is the mvp but doesn't have the benefits of the nba important faces on the website twice a while. Feel a little bit now on the hat trick. So yeah. that's that's pretty cool. I mean we bring you back and talk about blazes next time if you want your of this new book on older. I'm going to tell you. I found out about it. But i'm heightened to land some stuff and maybe apply that plays it exit so perhaps for some of the folks who What rant when listeners subscribe as whatever during the first time that you're on the showers He's give us a quick brief rundown of what he does not stuff. Yeah sure so Yeah my name's christine t. I'm a developer. Principal develop a stop in london cool deployed which. I'm proud proud of because they were female late. Female founded stop textile up so What we some very clever ladies and yeah real joy to upgrade. So that's that's really good. I also marks. Mvp of two years now actually which is quite cool of go. A load of open source libraries could blazes. So that's all packages for blazer applications my blog which is christine dot com although i'm neglecting not little bit at the moment and that's because of the other thing which is i'm writing a book for manning called blazer inaction which is taking up my time and then yet as you also mentioned. I've recently become a father. So i've got me boy May my wife's so yeah. He's he'll be eight weeks this thursday. So there's a few things is a few things. go well. Congratulations on all of that. I have to say It's always wonderful to when when things are going really well for some more than a wonderful tehran. That excellent says Okay so there's there's a lot to unpack that and like i said you are on the show Before my goodness the time the time in this episode is planned to go out. 'cause baseball record these little bit ahead. It's this is going in january. Twenty twenty one if everything goes well so that means that you're on the show two and a half years ago ish yet masters really bad. But that'll do and last time we talked about blazer and it's been a long terms as we talked about the so much new stuff to talk about but i won't. I won't attack you with loads of questions specifically about blazer. Because i want to talk about the book as well so You've talked about the book. Can you give us a brief overview of what the league is it. Is it for begin to if i wanna get into dot. Net is it. Is it the way to do it or is it. Just i know some dot net. I want to figure out how to build simpson and blazer. What's the was the elevator. Pitch us your code. So the book as aimed at kind of people who do do dot net that familiar with with so fundamentals of web development and things But that's by to be the vice requirement. So as of doing the recounted to find that the rita the target rada of the target rate. Ablation action is someone who's probably had a euro euro to dot net core experience Like build websites they know about you know the basics of css html java script stuff like that and they're just looking to start to build more advanced applications with with dot net. So that's kind of the entry level for the book and then the the the whole idea behind the book really is too tight you from that level and work through the various phases of blazer and by the end. Hopefully you're kinda come out of it with a well rounded understanding of the framework possible with it. Hopefully you've been able to land a few tips and tricks along the way highly shortcut you from some of the Common pitfalls and things like that for more advanced users Sorry for people who maybe have blazer experience. Hopefully that should be Stuff in there for that. Level of raiders weld away a bit more towards the back probably where we talk about Regard chapter all performance tuning blazer apps and things like that unit testing as well because that tends to be something that allow people shy away from spa frameworks and you eye level stuff so talk about that and stuff so hopefully they'll be something there for everybody. That's that's kind of why. I'm hoping but yeah but one thing that might be. Ultra deep dive into every little nook and cranny as in all honesty most people while it's fun to know that kind of stuff. That's probably bad for blow post. I think rather than than books general-purpose books anyway Level awake up. Sure i mean that makes perfect sense right. What is this. I forget the name of the principle but the principle of like eighty percent of is something like twenty percent of the knowledge is required to eighty percent of the wealth or something like that some Yeah what you mean. yeah so. He's the one that you use when you trying to walk out whether something's important during the next sprint and sent the value comes in twenty percent of the work and the last twenty percent. Thanks ipe sent work or something like that isn't it. Yeah i mean like the the point getting is that it would be like you said. It's great to know if you want to. He's great to do that. Deep dive and learn about the lowest level of how everything fits together in how. It's all working but if you'll making up at your bosses and you got two weeks to do it. You gotta learn the the way to get from no app to some app and doing a right low level at the bottom love wrong. All of like how it all fits together is maybe not your target at that point. Yeah definitely and i think as well being someone who's spent have spent Since blazer came out ready. I've had my nose. The suicide and the thing is if you if you if you stop talking about law byline implementation details. It goes out of date so fast because the moment relieffactor happens. The cote doesn't do that anymore. A now when you go blowpipes you cannot say it though pays relatively easily but if you've got a printed book that becomes a bit harder so i think what we what we were trying to do in the book is give you the. I think that detail of what's going on under the hood to help you with things like troubleshooting and trying to be creative in you. Solution is ing but without giving you the granularity that really doesn't probably add that much value And stuff. So i'm getting. I'm getting a lot. Barry diagrams flowcharts and and stuff like that to describe the intent of the carried. I think he's probably the best way to put Because i think that's the thing is a bit more timeless An that hopefully something that will then be useful to people for for longer than that. Particular version of the framework is out So yes that's the that's the goal but then there's always a techy reno wants to go into the gray and might is very good at pulling me back and guy that's talkradio that's fair enough. There's always like an element of joy in like. This really cool thing i found out. I know how it works. Check this out l. Blow your mind when you read it though. Liga that daily. I'm forever take that with like my brother My la mc check. She's amazing and the always like what we haven't done. Yes oh okay. The i totally get that. So okay if i if i sort of put my. I don't know anything about blazer. Hatton i know that blazer something something webassembly some things something no java script so for the folks who may be sort of new to the idea of blazer as though is that there is something something webassembly something tipping no javascript. I mean. I know that we talked about it last time. We said yeah. What's great about it is. You don't have to do johnny skirt. Is that still the case or is it still. What's what's what's the deal yet Saturday so many many things that we can talk about addition that senate sorry. I'm gonna there with the java. One i because i always think that's a really interesting conversation to have because obviously yeah one of the wanted the selling points the marking points of blazer is that you know you can write apps in c shop and that's real dot net code executes in the browser and Don't don't need to use java script anymore and obviously that's not alive because obviously they would be marking material solicits. A far too good for that. So but i think it's a i talk about in the book in an make the point that while you can achieve a lot without java scrip- desam there's certain scenarios where he might actually choose to use it because it's just the better tool for the job and you know i love say shop. I love dot net. But i've been a been a web developer life. I thought building websites with a friend of mine from school when we were sixteen for local businesses. I am kind of I'm going to be really controversial now saying this. Is someone say they. I've always gonna be a soft spot for javascript and things like that because really it's it's kind of the underdog should have never achieved what it's achieved but it has by get why people don't like it. I get wisecracking. I've pulled my hair out time and time again with it and you don't get that with with sharp it. It's just a very well. Thought out. Nice language in my opinion at least and for the apps the i right and again i know there's some people have different opinions from nashville and not so good but just from my point of view and i think i think it really comes down to the type of app that you wanna build if you're going to build a bog. Standard credit line of business may be intern. Latin that kind of thing you could probably you could probably could writes it without any java scrip- whatsoever And you could probably make pre sweet like it will probably be. You know you could probably make it pretty funky. You can have it doing some cool stuff and very slick and still not use javascript. But when you want to build some really like some really advanced you i designs with it. There are times where certain things are just Three jobs they sat night is only available through java script and blazes doesn't have access to things like the dome yet so if you if you wanna and browse right as well so they sense as we just don't have a choice you have to go through those things but then again having said that the more popular plays it gets the more new get packages. There are the rap. Those javascript api is and you can just install those instead and then becomes a rather interesting It becomes a rather interesting discussion. Then whether you're using java script if you're using someone else's library that uses javascript. Because i've i've seen discussions on twitter where people have been adamant that an application is using javascript even though they don't write any javascript in the application but they rely on a new package that that does java javascript in europe so then out an amount chart involved in those discussions. Because that's not really going to go anyway. But i that's that's one of the great points about blazers that if you don't wanna do that. Javascript saw it then have new. His chances are somebody's probably already done. The what for you short so project. Not very long ago where someone was actually trying to wrap every javascript. Api nc shop. I don't know how that's going or ever actually go anywhere but you know there are people trying to do these things to make your life easier so so yeah gone complete tangent. They're talking about loads and loads of him and stuff. But i think to bring it back to the point of javascript. You can achieve law in blaze without writing any javascript whatsoever. And the and the longer blazes out the more you can achieve without writing javascript. I think he's just when you get more advanced scenarios where java scrip- does start come into play a little bit more and you might need to an also just sometimes they certain things like chart libraries and things like that for example really battle-tested. They were really well. They're really feature rich. Why do you want to try. And recreate from scratch when you could wrap a few. Api cools and then you can deal with the nc shop from that point forward But you can take advantage of older. Their years of millions of users testing it and running it and optimizing and all of that kinda stuff. That's where i think you know you need the need spare. I guess if they have a sensible decision rarely about which white guy but But yeah so so yeah. I'm going to live in the place of that. But yeah lots without it but every now and then you still need to delve into it. I mean i totally get that. That's that that angel argument of you pick the tool that works for the situation. You find yourself in right. yeah With the phrase when you have a hammer when all you have is a hammer. Everything looks like a nail right if all you're doing is dot net then yet. Maybe you might get a little upset after deuce. John scripted win. All you're doing his java script you might get upset you have to do some dot net in the same for any any language right. I don't wanna pick exclusively on javascript. Java go dot. I'm trying to get the seo by saying holy. Is the same thing right. All of those all of those different tools and techniques of that for us to pick and choose the right one for the jump at handwrite because otherwise we'd be doing machine learning in say or machine learning in dot net but For one reason or the python seems to be better for it. So let's do it. Only python listed went all in all. It just makes sense right. Yep yeah definitely so. What about We we i mentioned webassembly. You mentioned webassembly. Blazer is a webassembly technology. do i need to know webassembly to use it. He's he's me saying blazer is technology a misnomer am i. Talking nonsense was was. I know i still. So i think the way. I describe as webassembly aspect of blazer so blazer has this principle of hosting models so in blazes architecture. There's a separation between it's like at mullets component model unware. That model can be run. And those things are cooled hosting models so blazer originally shipped with a hosting motor cooled sev- blazer seven and that meant that basically your blazer application executed on the server and then a signal connection was set up with the client is a bit like a client terminals or thin client style thing so everything get sent from the browser to the server to process and then you i- updates get sent back down to the client and the browse gates update. And that's no going. That's still there. That's going strong and everything but then in may of this year we got laser webassembly and blazer webassembly as something that i think a lot of people were probably more excited about which was the fact that you could now run your your real dot net code in the browser natively without having to do any like it wasn't secretly transporting to javascript and all this kind of stuff. It was genuine dot net. Dale elle's being executed in the browser natively using web standards without any plug ins whatsoever and that web standards tonight Webassembly so whether suddenly became the full th language of the web back in the november december of last year so the w3c officially ratified recognized. That wherever they they do so it now sits alongside html css. Javascript has an official things. It's not going anywhere. It's there to stay. And the way it ties into blazer as days dot net runtime that's compiled to webassembly and that's where blazer webassembly gets his name from but you'll co doesn't get compiled to webassembly. You'll Your code still compelled to normal dot net dale l. sites ultimately. I l that and they get downloaded to the browser along with this run time then. Some jarvis straps that. Don't run time that webassembly don't at run time then. Bat lights library Eight so that's how that fits together. So i think a lot of people often referred to blazer webassembly when they're referring to blazers hope because that's kind of the they're interested in. Nfl crestone. and i find like token to a lot of people. Everybody has a different wife. While i made enough starts with appropriate Cable which hosting maly are running on the several you running on the klein From that but but that's how the webassembly Fits into all of this. But the kind of. I want to but obviously the really. So i think we blazers the fact that you can just keep adding these hosting models so blazer is rarely just limited to being a web technology. Either it's it's basically a ui framework full wherever you can build a hosting model. So we've already seen Experiments with electron and states on his web window project and lipton has been doing My bob laser bondings which is using the blazes programming model On top of zama informs technology essentially We know now from from marks off the plays it will hopefully be a programming model in maui. Maradona as well. So yes so when. Yeah when you talk about blazers really. It's very difficult sometimes to really encapsulated everything that you could potentially achieve framework Over the next few years you know you could genuinely have a framework here that you could lead and build any kind of your lane which is a quite an exciting prospect. I think it really is. I mean even before he threw blazer in. You've got the i will. I will say. Don't let go because like we're recording. This ahead of the dot net five released the release candidate ships. I think the last release the to. I think shipped last week the week before. So we're recording this in the past. What i'm about to say is probably outdated by the time against running so adapted to this out we leave it in You know when people were saying to me I think it was. He was i think he was doing. Jim bennett when he said. Don't go can run on your computer or tablet on yourself on your phone on your watch on tv on your fridge. And i'm like wow and then we're saying the same thing technically as possible with from what you were saying then. Technically as bustled with blazer. Because it can rent all of these. Api's scotto stuff. And i'm just like there is almost no limit to what we can do right and orissa. I don't know yeah. I think it's getting you know. I think it's a really interesting time to be dot net developer Case there are just so many places you can run dot naps now. A growing in an the places that it could run. Forwards gang baron. You know we already. We already know If we've done for Longtime now ready dot net. Cole was very very performance. Run time and dot net. Five is is building on that. As well so yeah. I think there's a lot of interesting in saw impossibilities always caveat. Everything i said with the mobile stuff and whatever is technically experiment the moment so you know there's no commitment officially i don't think for many of this is just kind of looking into it but i think just the fact that they're looking at is is a really interesting thing and everybody seemed to interact with who's who's used. These experimental model seems to be rain excited about it. And renting enjoy writing apps. That way. And i think really that she came metric if you develop as excited building apps using that technology all that programming model. Whether that's a pretty good endorsement of what you're building that's it wants to develop has fallen into that of success. Yeah that's that's how you know you've you've made it right. Yeah definitely yeah. I mean i think that's why yes while i think. A semi dot net developers alike. Want to want to build blazer an and the want to get away from java scrip- because at the end of the day is mature softball. I've got for theirs. There are so many quirks of javascript. Do exactly the opposite of what you said. Is you know they throw you at the failure. You know with with four sometimes Why she don't tend to get that with on that and need System it does try to to just help you along the path and there's a lot of value in that because then you can you can focus on building. The business value will wherever it happens to be you know. Fighting the framework were language will awebber which is always a good thing. Yeah definitely i do remember. There was something to eat said on the previous upset. I'll encourage listeners to go back and listen to that one two when when you said you know with with blazer whilst graders if i need a new developer i i'm on the team with don net. Deaths i don't need to go out and find someone who is very strong with javascript. A not to work on the front end. I can if if they are able to do javascript stuff but also they means that we have this common language between the developers who are working on the entire stack of the system. They're all using the same tool and so if someone has a problem or if there's a quick we can work on it together and we have to sort of switch contexts which language domain switch technologies constantly in order to To continue on right. Which i'm guessing. Now this is conjecture on my part that most increase the velocity of the now this again. You may only be able to answer this conjecture. No one's done any studies. But if you're using the same technologies everyone around you showy team a whole would be faster at delivering whatever value that delivering right. Yeah definitely yeah. I mean some a spy no means remotely scientific but at my place The tame always late in their Been written in react Not taken about four or five months to build and where. We rewrote the basics of it in a week. and in a month we had the entire thing up and walk into the same functionality that version now that by main is anything derogatory against the team. Right the react app but it kind of shows about what you just sign. They would net developers who had to learn. React an land tools around it Get up to speed. An find may be a tool light. Picked wasn't right like the testing larvae. Didn't work very well. So then they swapped the testing library and not meant rewriting stuff and ola vase and then as you know the quirks of moving from an object oriented language to a functional language in daily use typescript typescript and then the which part of the waste particular bill till the. Wanna use the us. Paco any browser fi. Any of the other. Bits and bobs not to mention you know even stuff like gang it running locally in dealing with kohl's properly in the old days to things that come up and wear as a my team to be completed as you probably expect martine manhat- blazer experience so we already knew about that markan alive about. Why do you think that story shows is that you can build stuff very very rapidly when you when you know that technology already And i mean when my when i introduced molly maintain to originally. I didn't they. None of them had kind of looked any dogs. They ain't gonna hate. They weren't ready reflects the stuff they went ready looking at this and this is very early on when all everything before blazer savage released it was everything was experimental gave him the task game two hours and i said right here you go. Here's this thing right. Try and build this app. And on i google things wherever if you come across a blow crisanto dot com just ignore is probably public and all of them built the app and what was really interesting for me is the out of the four five of them. Who built the app that was like three or four different approaches to so i feel that was quite an interesting is quite interesting thing for me because i think not only could they get the head around the framework enough to solve the problem not given them which is relatively basic. It was essentially some crowd with a little bit extra in it but nine either. I met the brief that doubleday stuff that also not been limited in any way to the solution that i pick. They've been able to vary in an in different ways in still achieve the results in time in wisconsin. Stuff and that for me was like a really interesting point with blazer. 'cause i was like well this. These are people who you know. They're not like me. They don't like obsessed with it and they're just Good develop as you would just you know. They're to run gaps in not ready to fussed about while they're doing it with they just want to be productive and so the fact. They built this stuff in the way they did. It was just to rain the next week they were like. Oh my god that we start. Using this preview we start using it yet but But yeah so that was a really interesting point. And the more people i speak to her gang blazes they. They kind of build within. Oh my god. That was a lot easier than i thought like. Oh i want to rent wanna list out a list of items. i'll just do a four h. With an ally in of list like that. That's how easy is. I know how to do for each doing him and see shop for years. So it's just same thing except it's a piece of html in the middle now the c. Shop expression cool. Oh well you know So yeah yes. Yeah it's interesting. I think you've you've raised a couple of really important points there about link around tooling and do use typescript java script do as web pack browser five what do we use whereas like i feel like the c. Shop on toolchain is literally one tool jane. Right everything set to the same Everything sets the version number like typescript to tax two point one touch point eight. I worked on a project a couple of years ago. We were getting pretty far into it. And then we hit this stumbling brockway. One of the developers of using the typescript compiler version one point eight and the rest of his one point. Whatever the rest of his two versions of two minute ahead and we had access to they didn't and then they were like well. How do i get a updated compiler you gotta go. We'll i'm not using visual studio. So i wanna use mpm and get the right version from there and do you pin it to that. You're not pin it to that and dislike Goes outta whack and then you know. I don't wanna pick on mpm but left pad you know one person removes package. Everything stops alexia. That can totally happen in on that too. But it doesn't happen as often and it doesn't have such disastrous consequences. So ito picking on on javascript. Now i really don't want to. But i totally agree that you can if you are a c. Shop dot net shop whatever developer and you already know the tools and then somebody just goes. Hey you can do this. Extra thick without having to loan own new tools and install new tools and sleigh bells pipeline down. And all that kind of stuff. It feels like a would to make me faster at something. And i think you're right about building something to get your head around some of the simplicity triviality nut trivialities runway the simplicity of going. Oh here's a thing. His a component is a a block. I remember i was back in zero point zero three. I think days or zero point. Three seven days a put together pokey beleza which is a little for that just uses pokes at the pokemon apia and then takes that jason converts into dot net thing and then just read his book on. This is whether it's shiny on out here. The attack values. It does because my brother was like. I want to do pokemon weather and i'm like okay. I'll throw this together and you could just search for a polk among based on his number and it will probably back and he's really basic but like it is a basic app. But i learned a huge amount about blazers just by doing that. Like the the the the kolpak tree the had to do see shout functions stuff. I got all of that. Just it'll just sunken all made sense and that was a super early version. That's when everything was not necessarily breaking radically but like now now. I think that's bill built something that comes out. Nothing works. yeah. That was an interesting time. Yeah my my editing. My blog post was on fire during that period. Yeah that was. yeah. I think that's Probably a good thing size. While i mean that's the other thing about blazers. Just the speed at which features are added. You got the the interesting. The interesting thing for me. Is that what to a half years ago. Maybe longer like though maybe get on three now. This framework didn't exist by. It was might be an idea in stage. Johnson's headed in the fact that it's gone from that to a production level framework. The you can build some united days in apps. Wave in that period is is pretty impressive. And it's only getting i mean. Don't get me wrong. i'm not. I'm not ignoring the limits of the framework But why i often say is people united trying to tear it down because they comparing it to something like react angula an it doesn't have xyz or doesn't do xyz and things like that and he's like well was angles seven years seven years React must be at least must be a very must be a similar number. I'm talking about react. React sorry angula to not angular jay s and things like that so it's not really a fair comparison. Considering the low side webassembly version is only been live since may so less than a year and unser several only a year old in in november Comparing with the seven-year-old framework is probably a little unfair But then on the split side of think the fact that you just people already compared it to seven year old frank. West carnivals are showing us. How far it's come in that time. If you know it must be something. That's making them compared to the for what because why would otherwise. I so yeah. It's h radi interesting to see how it's coming on. And what's going on with their But yeah so had horrible flashbacks vetting post by. Its supposed that happens. When you're at the forefront of any technology right. Yeah i mean if you you know. I mean i'm brian. I'm gonna bright myself if you're silly enough to be writing in debt flow posts about preview flight framework from version. Zero point one. Then you kind of go expecting to be had annual float post on a fairly regular basis so so yeah. But i mean i just think back. When we first started using buddies with the first preview you think we only had like the click directive. And i think on on on change on. There's like three. I think in the in the zero one preview Crazy thing how far it's come and just like you said it just needs may be at the moment a new package altuve to bring in whatever the api that you're saying it doesn't do this and like well new. Get add package. Don a as it now and then. Maybe it'll be there in the next version. I'm not microsoft. Yona microsoft maybe it will be but if the support is there already. Then wino- right. Yeah yeah definitely. Yeah i mean. I think I think ryan signed. They're talking about potentially putting in things like drag and drop for Maybe dot net sex and stuff. So you know these things are coming. I mean do those things now but the common ui problems. I think that's where microsoft is gonna be an interesting player in the front end spice because you know the javascript community So the as spent without technology and it's very much a community led. You know drive to fix problems so somebody will have problem in crap package for enough that gathered things like that and that also is kind of slightly achilles heel because then you get three thousand packages the technically are solving the same problem but which depict and. When was that. Open up that you for two years in that one. That one was lost weight but it wasn't diet for like three years before that. So is that okay and you end up. Having to be like a bit like a super sleuth trying to out is this thing going to be okay An staff worries. I think with blazer dot net and mick mark off throughout at the moment is kind of like they just wanna let you get on with solving the business problem as easily as possible. So it's like if there's a there's a benefit to putting a feature into the framework. That's a common enough thing to warren being in the framework. Then you know it's out for consideration and obviously you know the great thing about dot net now is a tool open source. So if you want something you've got you outages case you can raise an issue. I knew the team will listen to that they will. They will respond to you. I always You want hear but they will. You can make your argument in. There's plenty if h is got into blazer. There have been community driven features. And i think that said you know big testament things as well absolutely absolutely and i think i don't want to discount I feel like. I'm like i'm picking on mpm picking on java script but saying we caught riddick para seven-year-old framework to something. That's less than two right while less than do enough. And i think you're right and i with the part of that is because don't it has a standard library. Javascript doesn't end and yet Maybe seventy as pajamas trip goes back to nineteen ninety five nineteen ninety four and the same problems. Some of the same problems existed. Then that still exist. And that's maybe that's because of the community has had to confront as a it uses libraries. this state. right. I still remember. When does memes and jokes about it now. You would such from heavy this problem with with javascript and the answer would be used jank. Worry yeah right. Like how do i add to the used. Shakoor why would you eat. But maybe that's because there isn't a standard library may be because see shop has standard libraries slightly. I don't want to say benefit but fulsome developers may be having not standard library this. Hey his a bunch of of types and features and api's and stuff you can use. That has already been vetted already been used and is already being kept up to date. And here's the latest version. And he's been in a you know as being maintained because i say is completely open source now and then yet you could dive in and say right okay. Having this problem has a book report or having this problem. I'd love to have this feature walk and then the community comes in. And i think they still use the thumbs up thumbs down emerges to do the voting right so you hit so if you can get enough people voting. Yeah we need to do this. It will eventually be added to the road. Like yeah definitely. Yeah what they again. This is kind of time travelling. Because obviously i will be in january when we so but yeah back in current time of october the dot net have been so big dr asking people to actually go on on. Get hub and up the issues. They won't help them prioritize Trying to make the points people that you can actually affect the roadmap like if you want something you know and there's enough people going up voter and if it's at the top of the list and that's what that's what they're going to look at it again. Obviously there's always going to be caveats that might be a limitation technology wise. Why they can't do it or something like that. But you know generally speaking. It's going to at least have some serious consideration. Which i think he's he's already The that's already good thing. I think the anything that you have to be wary office with with a single custodian of That you you always risk losing In that kind of thing with with that multiple Just to make the point. I'm not just saying here's a fan boy. You know if you know these disgruntled people who felt very you know. He's going to stop them by microsoft because they had an open source packages very successful. I'm mark often. Just come out with know added that feature into a framework instead of maybe contributing to the the the comedian evasion. And of course that you know the community version just gets gets Left by the wayside because generally speaking most With microsoft option over the community option. And if you read a few price from people who have been like right next version of dot net of saying that they're bringing out this feature so i'm shut my library because i'm not gonna waste any more time because i know that when that comes out seventy percent of people who use my library just stopped using it because they'll just go to the marks off one because it's margaret soft and i think i think that's a shame i just i just adds imbalanced to to a hair is the idea of shaima. Think there's some times where maybe there could be a support an existing community project over bringing into the framework sometimes by also get why. Because you've got very big companies. Have a lot of money riding on self basis. And i need that reassurance that they can go and they can go back on mark's story some installed in a not a not some guys working really hard and and trying to do in evenings weekends or something like that and maybe calm get something out so yeah it. It's definitely a double edged sword. I think there's a lot of there is still probably more benefit a benefit than anything really And i think as long as it's always discussion as long as the community can Than i think. I think he's Definitely definitely it. It's it's a very small two people in me to figure out. I know that much about is just Yeah it's a difficult one like you say he's here i mean. Do you end up. Going down the jason dot network and go. Hey james king what you can work for us. Yeah because like that that falls into what people call the the extend embrace extinguish. You don't wanna you don't wanna do that. But then it if the genuinely is this thing that everyone's using like jason dot net. It makes sense to bring it in because it is part of the call the whole experience but then if people might get upset about that the i totally get I think we going forward. I think we have a lot of. We need to have a like. i said smarter. People need to have that discussion about this open source. Thank how do we support it properly. And maybe the current level of support is enough. And i just don't know how to. I'm holding hands. I really don't. I don't i don't get it. I'll happily us a package if it helps me to solve the problem but then also happily used the framework if helps to solve the problem. So maybe i'm part of now. I think that's the point. I think the ended a day most of us. You know way. We're being paid to solve a problem as efficiently as possible and at the end of the day is built into the framework. Most of us are issues that because why would you waste time researching a night until package when something already there and you don You probably wouldn't think to try because you've got well as the answer is right there in front of me so like you said. It's not an easy. It's not an easy thing in the hallway. Make you know. We could probably talk for several episodes about open. Tulleson how you sustainability ecosystem and it's definitely something that i i listened to Listen to a lot of people as to coin your phrase a lot smarter than me. Who are who are trying to work those problems out an. I'm just kind of yeah just trying to land really from an you know. I've got a small rarely in the open source wild. You relatively speaking compared to to the people who are doing. This live radio big stalin And stuff and i definitely can see some of the pain points that people have united when someone opens a very snotty issue. Because you know they've been inconvenience that he wanted to do this thing and your library hasn't done it why they want it to. Will you know they've they've come. They found a problem. But they can't be bothered to tell you how to rape That we rotate. You need to fix it You know i've got other things today. Odd got i'm being paid to write software not fake yours and it's like an interesting interesting perspective there 'cause when myself wherever solving a problem for you u. n. thanking may contributing. You're just probably getting some applause from your boss to eat something quicker than you thought you got into whatever which is great. And that's that's why. I love Why do i even saw. But you can't come at me like that when there's a problem and treat me like you're paying one hundred hundred pound a month license fail something like that because that's not fair and that's you know that that's not a very small minority epecial that do that. It's it's tiny. I count on. You know one or two hands in the last two years the people that have done that kind of thing and you know there's hundred psi but should be those people to shouldn't be thing but yeah benny our got down that because it's such a complicated thing. The open source wealth. It is so let's talk. Let's shift gears back to wolves blazer right we recording this ahead of a net five coming which i believe if i'm remembering correctly has the shorter of the support life cycles because i believe it's the even must have even does so So lots of presumably lots and lots and lots of new features coming at five for all of the different dot net things right but we're talking about blazes having looked into the Having looked into the release candidates Caveat whenever you're about the same way recording this ahead of time so this some of this may not be true may be only partially true or you may just be lying to me. I have no idea but when it comes to laser. Don't have five or some of your favorite things. The things that you're super excited about with blazer with the brand new version this about to drop any moment now in recording time but has already dropped by the trump pause which just feel like a challenge to you because microsoft could change their mind to just something technically. Yeah yeah definitely So there's probably two things that I really like. There's probably more. Actually that the comes on right now is The css 'isolation which has been something that community. He's been pushing for a very long time so again. It's an example what we talk about a second ago of mugs of listening to the comedian and building features that the community won't so i say i saw 'isolation is probably been the most requested feature for blazer since it very like even before i came out of a gi product. You know so That's really great. I liked why a lot why it's been implemented by us. The view esus Of model skyping sas which is is from from. I've read and understand is a really well liked and so of wealth of implementation side so that works really well and funny enough initially mainly because i do. I do these libraries as the java script isolation so there's job script isolation but really it's not as java scrip- module support really allows you to dynamically low javascript modules on the fly. So that's the reason. I'm excited about that. He's because he's a library without. I can now dynamically Any job script. I need to because if javascript. And i can dynamically like that. Now without having to have the consumer at a script tag to that blazer out which i think is just a nice usability feature because A good chunk of of the issues that get raised a my repos when aversion changes is because of cash javascript file or cash s file. So for me. Those features kind of moves away from some of the common problems. I hit which is which is good. But there's some other stuff in there like days. The virtualization component so this is a component that will take a long list of data earned stuff virtually is it so it only shows the portion visible in the viewpoint so you can load a list. We'd like ten thousand items in it and it's gonna show you the another. Twenty awebber is leave A couple of the solid if that to make a nice smooth scrolling exercise but that's a great component. I think that'd be very useful. Moss recall that. I was actually built by. So yeah so. That was bill by internet microsoft on the team. So kudos to him. I completely forgot his nine now so if he ever happens. Listen to this i apologize. But he's on the one of the dot net community stand ups They did a Now will be a few weeks ago. Maybe a month ago where. They kind of introduced At five serum. Yeah and what was the other one. I was going to co head head tag manipulation. So spa offering this blazer problem. This is just any spa framework. Boys had they say she around. Seo in creating the true page navigation experience by changing tags page titles and everything not just the url with blazer. There's been no bill in solution for that. So you candidates and java script in up to manipulate the head tag you can do seen versions where you have to route components in a by zero and one of them is in the head tagging you literally so build the head tag dynamically as well so but nowadays a solution out of the box dot net five where you can You can set your title of your page using a component. Now and then when you navigate between you have that component each page set the toddlers peijun. It just changes every time you have but you can also adamant they've any other elements in head tax. So if you won't mad descriptions mac. He was for stuff like that. You can build build is into it as well and doing pre rendering. Then you're you're gonna probably be doing okay. Seo wise you should be able to solve the usual seo. Solve the basic seo marquette. And i'm not going to try and claim to be an audio expert. Because that's another black box. I think no matter how much i read about. Why ever understand. So so yes that's another. I think that's another good one that one again time. A lot of apps in dot net tend to be more line of business or or maybe not anyway. I think he's just a nice from a user experience that you can have a different title on the browser tab. When they move around and things i think that just a a nicer user experience so that kind of the the full things all i kind of really like i did Ready so fortunate For a south american blazer event which israeli radio. And i did a talk about what was coming into at five in research than on actual numbers in like pull out fifteen features that are coming in dot net five and i think the will like number of issues actually got merged. Don't five. I'm sure had someone from the dot. Net team seitis was around fifty entitled like the bug fixes and general performance framework changes because obviously moving to dot net five in the changes that came of that which i think is phenomenal. Considering they've done a very compressed time scale for don't at five because up until may A webassembly which was dot net cool three-point to So up until then fully come try it on that side of the blazer team is only ready dot net five features since may so i think to build that stuff into the framework in that period of time is biz impressive So yeah and so that anyway. That was yeah that might that might keep it cool. Okay i'm interested with the this s. d. c. says 'isolation. Yep yep is that is that similar to let's say. I'm building something in a modern javascript framework with view. Jay s rather view guesses. The union angula acts like thing. I've got an a block of html book. Jones krypton block of san says. It's only relevant to that opponent. Right is same idea. Yeah yeah exactly right so the way it works with blazer is you you have your component fall so let's let our use the always popular counter component in every place. It ever in the world. So yeah you'd have your counter dot razor fall. So you know component code and what days you create a style. She with side nine. So you cry. Count adult razor dot say s. s. So you sat convention in the framework will pick that up and then you can You probably got quite a few days. Probably got styles ritchie components. The framework will actually during the vice will pull together and bundle them into one. File will be the name of the project dot styles. Css so sad. If we if we had a blazer webassembly out for example could be disrupted and it was On a so. Yeah the the the Outlets doll shares because also blazes adults dolls. Don't say yes. She just put that one that one style she reference in your head tag the framers. What's gonna bundle lifestyles up and put them in there for you but the key point is what it does it generate so unique A unique key on html element so ad is an attribute. Bill time it they have the same structure bay hyphen and then like a random like alphanumeric string. And then it will of you'll say says rewritten skype to the So so that means all of the ice component will sign my day in the classes. Get written to the day Respect to the id wish then stops any css bleed between between the components and again. It's quite useful if you're consuming library code because if classical container and someone else's classical container then like which order do i need style sheets to go in or do i need Exclamation mark in poor. No mind variety that one on the whole problem guys away we skype css. So so yeah. It's already is already good feature law. People been asking for a long time funny enough on it. I use it a little bit. But i'm i'm using tau in san says a lot at the moment which is e tilleke based Css framework so wise. I'd kind of take advantage of the scope stuff as much as i probably would have. A whenever we customize actually now using that because Well where. I went where we're running on the previews of dot net follow. So we've been playing around with these pro Baddie whereas while she's ready coat cool. I like that. I like that. You know a nice to have even if you're not using it right. This is full of these. We talked about it before. I always framework features. That may be using. Maybe not. it's kind of nice to have support for iterative fun link and css 'isolation those kinds of just in case you need to use it. Hey we've solved the problem already has how you can leverage that solution. That totally makes sense to me yet. That's awesome okay. So as we as we wrap up and tell us a little bit more about the book if you can like Where we can get it for him. He's available now. I know that at the time of recording this like a elliott's s burgum going on. I don't want to pressure you into giving a release date but by january twenty twenty one is out or is still wookey progress. I don't know about. Oh if only yeah so you say the book will be is inmates. Now which is the manning early access program so we not program. You can buy the book. There's different packages. I think is well you can buy. You can buy like the digital version but you can buy with the physical copy that will get sent to you when it gets printed Stuff like that so you can do that. And basically what happens during the period as you will get depending on when you bought you get all the chapters that have currently been released to make then you will get a new some new content every month as i basically as i write really but one of the nice things and the the the good benefits of the program is that you get to fade back on the books. So you can. You can leave comments on the on the on the book form and you can give your about what you think about the approach or if something's missing or if you if you don't have the why of explain something and you think it could be better you can make the suggestion and you basically have a chance to influence the outcomes. I it said manning a brilliant like Good ready series amount of resource behind us Writing books but you know the gang input from Yet the reader is always is always nice as an author and while constructive feedback and That can really be useful. When especially when you're writing something you might be a few y. You could have done it. You pick away and you're not hundred percent. Sure if that was the best wi having some people look at it and god. I relied that. I'm not sure that still not ready to be very clear. Maybe if you could explain that in a bit more detail than you can shift because again bollocks in digital way we can change it once it goes to print. Then that's it. He's locked in that point. So but yeah so coming to your point about the or your question about timelines yan january. It will definitely still be why people say like you really need to think before your book. It's very challenging. I think at the time at the time of cross now writing chapter three for the third time so far i've written a chapter the versions over in as gang over fifty pages because rations. I think i've had a forty five page version of it. A seventeen eighteen page version of it on megared seventeen writing pages and again for the third version. So it's just one. He's just been my bogeyman chapter. Just slide as yes no. It's been a pain so good at this time to think of good late so so yeah but hopefully head down gaffey more chapters than the under under the bow. An it will be released next year. So that's the also was the time of procast dishes year so twenty. Twenty one is the cow so yeah fingers crossed all models excellent. Okay so yeah. So what other is i. Got a couple of links from you and but them in the in the show notes directly to the the page or if indeed you're listening in the future maybe the same euro. I don't know but we'll figure that we'll get those definitely go. Check it out. Because i feel like a blazes. One of those technologies like you say he's got all of these different hosting malls and it's going to be something that goes forward right because as far as i'm away you don't will okay one last question. If i'm building something with blazer i know that blaze kind of hangs off of a espn nicole and the raise. A pages and nbc. Insult i got. Can i bring some of that in our mind locked. Justin blazer right. 'cause like if i'm making the technology choice for my app and maybe i'm solution architect. Maybe i'm tech lead maybe technology. Cto something. and i'm saying right you're going to build it with blazer as Nice am going to build it with blazer and then six months and we go out actually kinda need this. Api thing we need these control. As oh can i. can i mix and match because it's all one frame worker. Yeah yeah definitely so you can so the way it. What says you can put a components into rise pages or into nbc views. That's that's fine what you can't do it the other way round so you can't host the raise a page in a blazing component for example if you kinda of stop for a minute and it kind of doesn't really make much sense because the riser page is serve contract and the component is a client. Contracts are a while both deal with html and they're both using razor. That were very very differently because it raised page gets compelled to a string of html and a blazing component gets compelled to ac- shop class. That has a special method that when that case run by rendra offering will eventually some html comes out in a certain way so so they don't really go together in that way around Yes you'll you can just you can just plug in the bit. She won't so You know one of the hosting one of the following projects that you can be blazer is is a a player webassembly with an ice peanut cool back end so that gives you the the the is and stuff like that and then you can actually the ibuprofen as he serves the project and stuff so old kind of everything was together. Which is it comes back to what we sign out about. You know dot net being able to do so many things you know you can now use all these technologies together to create the you know the thing you want to cry in the best way to solve your problems. Your version of that pro-poor Which is yeah which is lost. I think that's the exciting thing about. Okay well i mean that. Good something that. I completely forgot the scholar run. But that's that's about me so thank you for covering outta so. What about find out more about chris. He said earlier on the chris. Saint dot com can being put to the wayside a little bit because of the whole gotta all of these hundreds of thousands of thanksgiving on the book so he's a Website is twitter. What's what's the best way to find out. Yes i yeah. I feel so bad about my popo. I love my blog and I'm actually really excited that. When i finished the book and get back to write blog post post every week and already mysterious. Oh so yes. I'm looking forward to that. So you got my newsletter you can sign up to my blogs are Changes that would be something out there. So there's that aspect in an try a detroit post and occasional blog post whenever i can They just didn't make sure. Why usually roy on there. But yeah you can get me on twitter. Chris under school saint on twitter. If you wanna give me although not always the most talk. I don't tend to post huge amounts. I'll try to just post something useful and not run on too much but like yeah so yeah. That's probably the best way either. Roots is probably the best way to get hold of me. I think i'll type you so media conference coming inside. But we really have face to face conferences anymore. Do we say now now the moment but you know once the unfortunate nece as calm dab will be able to maybe start doing again say who can say yeah. Excellent okay at will what else the accuracy is. I'll i'll get some more legs from you off and everyone to just go to the show knows the transcription down the bottom of the transcription handful of useful useful links so definitely check out an actress. Thank you ever so much time. Out of your evening I know that you've got a lot of stuff going on. And you know you got the little one to look after all that kind of stuff. So i feel bad for monopolizing you'll time nap but thank you so much for agreeing to be on the show again now toll. Thanks again Yeah i spend mazzi. Plays a jamie. It's yeah i'm looking hat. It's going to be good that's it. We'll have to put out a poll should crispy on the show again. I'll take that the notes lawyer were maybe have to do a poll. Of what do we get people who are on the show. Three times i'll world scheme and then we cannot let competitors and colleague table or something. Excellent well like i said. Chris davis which she's been loads of fun. And i'm looking forward to the reading the book it comes out so Best look that a best look with all of your projects in especially the best look with also that gave much. thanks case. there was interview with chris. Saint about blazer we should check the show notes for a bunch of thanks to some of the stuff that we covered and a phone transcription of the interview. The show as always could be found out dot net cord dot show and they will be a link directly to them in your pod catcher. 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NBA vs NFL Free Agency; Mailbag

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NBA vs NFL Free Agency; Mailbag

"Veal round with e l a to me as a way for an old friend welcome to another edition of around the nfl podcast my name is dan mandis and i joined in a conference room filled filled with a hero to my left and demand beat cancer and had no problem with the bengals fees adam him chris wesseling what's up boy hey that's why he got a couple of things that are unique we've done so many episodes now and yet here we are doing something west that we've never done before there's never been a hand just wesseling idea thursday night recapture some i don't count that okay i mean a straight pod or is just us to i've definitely done tandem shows or to handers views ricky some industry parlance yeah a lot of people wondering about the to hand a lot of people a with greg and with mark and i've done all sorts of other combinations with more the two people but never before just west tonight and this is exciting that surprises me i haven't been tracking but i know i've done with just greg and just mark right for salaries yeah no with just the two of us like just in previous you know two thousand fourteen the dark days before anybody who's listening to us and you get away with just one like a half an hour a new people you called the dark days that sounds joyful well yeah i met before electricity other exciting slash unique thing is we've been kicked out of the podcast studio a due to some construction upstairs so were doing this from a conference prince room on a level one right near ricky hollywood's desk in fact the conference room that is called beast quake with a large image of marshawn lynch is famous run in the two thousand thirteen players know twelve eleven it was the beginning of that seattle run i wanna hand actually see yes this the saints were the defending super bowl champions and the tony they had one twenty nine nine oh nine season they're defending their title got knocked off in january eleven with these quick ricky gotta be a goose bumps moment for you to be sitting in this conversation so closely do all you're working but yeah you know i was really really excited on yesterday when i set this up when there was a miscommunication so sort of the first day genders are out of miscommunication yet taxing you and you were on a flight and i was like hey like one o'clock you're not gonna make it if you're just taking off like habit i push three like yeah that would give me a lot more time get my life together and i'm like oh great i was already late for the show and you were texting is like i'll put zone with the whole thing going on i know and then even you west in the tax the three of us you were like oh just the two of us today and i'm like hi yeah like whatever and then i get to the get my first day jitters out set up all this ono an doll no it's okay it's okay that that now i feel terribly but i didn't know you would actually done work in yeah no i i do put some working well my apologies iou beer for that yes area south three of us here in a conference room where we show this conversation has not been booked by any shadowy league figures who might mosey on here on in here and you know waste everybody's time with a meeting about nothing at some point in the next hour very well could happen okay well if they pie guess ends abruptly you'll know i think the third floor is empty a coming up on today's show mailbag it's a mailbag show because it's just western i end rockies here courses well no glass you're not behind the glass so it's like you're part of the shows well how fun is that it's super cool 'em will just hit the mailbag in connect with the listeners i just got back from yes the jersey shore a week with the family fulltime grind fields looser a you know every day at the beach west and when you're young dad everyday the beach is like one of those tough mudder endurance races so i go in the water with me for an hour and a half now run around in the sand for twenty minutes now dig like a seven foot hole a that i'll you know the kid lose interest almost immediately after you've done the entire whole out it's it's constant work and then it was chased yesterday by a flight where jack and harrison were just losing their crap being tire time during the flight were hated on the flight i missed the part where you read a book peacefully in drank a did not happen and so i just wanna let you know as you're you of course there in in the middle of you're for maize and a funeral stretch here where you're gonna get engaged one they married the next kid one of the main after that and then kid to the map that let's keep the funeral partner in a coffin few decades later 'em hopefully several decades later i just wanna say remember in 'em billy madison when a little chubby kid says the adam sandlers character he can't wait to get high school and college cherishes stay as long as you can yes i i'm sure what you did what did what did you do well while i was throws a brian work location i went up to napa and hung out with mj cost in her boyfriend and then they'll come on like the greatest trip i ever went the oracle park the most beautiful baseball park in the country kata cardinals giants game it's a nice little weaken iris cherish i feel like i've been cherishing twentyfive years living up to the hill what'd you do if you haven't checked instagram you haven't really has no i actually was just chat and would was really really nice says back in new hampshire lake play nine like how you know actual estate yeah hosie manner hung out with some some friends but mostly just you know relax on the boat miss that being from the mid west like you're summers means something in california like the whole year insure summer well that's interesting meet anybody right now love no get any fights a family members knows really i know that full gotten too i got off right by a skunk you did yeah what did you do legitimately my flight was at six in the morning friday night that night we went out with friends in boston and i was just gonna go to the airport when we were done drinking at four in the morning sure as one does right and i had my my you know my beautiful beautiful puppy thor store with me so he was at my friend's apartment so around two thirty flights and a couple of hours go home store out in i think i thought it was a cat because my reaction was very very slow and i like let's or sort of like run on the leash like after the skunk but i mean really a really long time and then my friend had to give me an thor like a hydrogen peroxide baking soda whatever bath at like three thirty in the morning lost oh oh my god yeah so you've been drinking all night and then you get sprayed by a skunk yeah and you kind of get try get washed out but i'm sure the person sitting next to the plane is probably smelling some combination of some who's yeah skunk i mean i was i was legitimately fluid drunk trying to like checking after a slight to it was it was a really bad site quite a debacle yeah terrible at total catastrophe yeah all right well you're here with us you don't smell anything now like everything is under control a let's get to it starting with the news that i yes team usa back to back i did watch that i watched watcher with keith kansas my dad you know i would ask tomatoes watched maybe for soccer match is entire life enjoy it he's way plug the patriotic men so he hopped up a i only know slightly more than my dad about soccer so i imagine hold on time and tell me once you were goalkeeper i was i was quite good actually 'em in my younger here's a but i don't i never really learned the i never fell in love with the sport gotcha 'em so it was kind of fun watching my dad but that those nice back to back back debate the dominance on the on the world stage and you said well you made the point we're talking about we're talking about these women's soccer and how it's a fairly new sport the first world cup of the nineteen ninety one so maybe eventually other countries will catch up to you as so just gonna savor this long as we can yeah i mean if you look at it kinda like the dream team like in nineteen ninety two we're ahead of everyone i don't know the women's soccer players were naturally ahead of everyone but they've dominated you expect as the sport evolves it'll be more gala tarian who's your favorite ricky i i like kelli o'hara alex williams a little overrated roseland oh yeah she great natty where pino as you know making some lanes yeah she's like the biggest star in sports right now yeah nice job by her mhm 'em all right by like greg is in japan colleen checked in with college in tel aviv televi somebody nowhere mark is he's 'em taking a break anyhow before the before the july fourth week when i was a family vacation i think this is like a personal retreat for him who here this week last week i mean i don't think he was here but i don't i can't verify that i think he he you know he said he's told us on numerous occasions when he leaves any job when it's time to leave that's why keeps his his desk so sparse he can be out within seconds and no one will know he's got it's possible that has happened here it is he made it seem like this is like his personal retreat so he'll be ready to face the next eight months gauntlet of the season all right good friend i i just hope he comes back come back mark is not listening let's get to the news ezekiel elliott will not face the suspension offer his most recent off field incident mike garafolo reported a elliott met last week with commissioner goodell regarding an incident in las vegas in which the running back nudge the security officer after the meeting elliott issued an apology for his actions promising to make better decisions in the future i just think you know we don't need the do all this kind of catching up we were out last week except for the course we'll destiny episode which people really seemed to enjoy yes they did to the wheel destiny 'em but i i'm i'm just curious i feel like if you remember if you're a student of recent cowboys history a last time they had a true star running back in their midst demarco murray they they maxed out 'em what they could do in terms of team control a used him at eight outrageous a workload a level workload and then said goodbye due to the structure of the way we 'em the the cbs is i wonder if the cowboys how crazy they are really about extending a player and elliott who is undeniably talented but continues the have these little issues off the field as a running back and knowing how the how that position gets paid or not paid would you be surprised if the cowboys did not extend elliott long term i would be shocked because their whole team is built around him not just oftens but the way they play in the way the defense works with your fence hand in glove it's all built on ezekiel elliott being the best all around running back in the game and the best offensive weapon on the roster right let's move on the dolphins 'em have a defensive tackle kendrick norton who suffered a just a horrendous 'em fate last week he suffered it was in a car accident a that led to the amputation of his left arm of this occurred in friday on friday last week 'em in florida twenty two years old he his car was a ford f to fifty crashed into a concrete barrier a he lost the arm andy nfl stepped in with some help tuesday morning informing norton that all of his medical medical bills will be covered under the league's a in miami miami dolphins insurance policy that came from a the players agent 'em also norton posted an instagram message 'em on monday with a thumbs up a he is in stable condition his nfl career obviously over now it's about getting well a and moving onto the next phase of his life obviously stunning 'em in very sad but thank he's alive sad story for a guy who is a late round pick last year was on the practice squad and with the team is sports is the dolphins would have had a chance to make the roster so you feel that feel bad about a lost his career and obviously you know is health issues going forward and i you know talking to mj costa in her boyfriend about this they spend a lotta time in miami she spent most of her life there she's she was not surprised about where the accident happened she said it's gotta be one of the most dangerous areas in the country really it happened very early in the morning 'em again norton stable is a hope that eventually they'll be able to get a prosthetic arm a but that's where norton's at right now a in other a health news and not you know great news a former patriots linebacker tedy bruschi bruschi bruschi tedy bruschi posted an instagram on monday he's doing quote much better after suffering a stroke last week 'em bruschi suffered a stroke on july fourth felt several symptoms of stroke which is the use of his left arm continues at who he realizes slurring his speech 'em his wife also noticed that the left side of his face source drooping when he turned her they called nine one one got immediate assistance and bruschi forty six years old a seems to be doing much better now of course bruschi suffered a stroke in two thousand five as well when he was a member of the patriots it's they missed the first six weeks of that season then returned a play eight months later so this is obviously something that existing medical condition the blues he's got the watch the rest of his life scary stuff yeah i i didn't realize it in over a decade since his initial initial stroke in i remember at the time everybody being very concerned i you know i think it bodes well that he's been able to recover so well from the first one so let's hope he does the same after this one rick yeah you listen i should know that he had a great career he risky ski huge i got hung up on it because i don't watch a lot of the sp nfl shows i only what he's a apple is there now only watch nfl network is that's the only place become friends don't lose an whose name b r u s c h i i tripped on it yeah i don't know maybe like some slack i like my first real football memory was tedy bruschi stroke stroke whoa how were you in two thousand five i probably was fourteen teen thirteen well yeah this is one of those stories you told a reminder so much younger you are the yes no i i remember i remember being like he missed the first part of the season i remember patriots fans my friends and classes and stop being really upset about it and then i remember being really upset that he was like coming back i was really worried because i wasn't really sure i didn't know who he was but all this kind of stuff and then all of a sudden he would back and i was like that's way too soon and i remember sort of the pressure of watching his first game back in two thousand five and then the one in two thousand out in second grade who could forget the millennium what will happen with those stoplights they'll shut off a moving on more patriots news rob rob gronkowski he was on the rich eisen show last week said he's gonna be times when he misses playing a but guess what is also happy right now is also down eighteen pounds firm to sixty eight the two fifty but but that doesn't stop him from getting a little workout with an old friend named tom brady gronk caught passes from brady during a private workout a modern day at you cla my both my sons were born you cla medical center about that pretty cool patriots a little bit more likable now maybe maybe jackson has been slumping woman a anyway the tight end he just happened to be an ally of charity basketball game espy's this week was i know you'll be dvr ing the espy's and watching it repeatedly 'em and so he got the workout in an i just gotta be honest with you 'em this again let's just feeds right into the obvious take away that there's no way in hell this guy is not playing for the patriots rates in december i i i put a saint john it if anybody wants to take me on this is happening gronk is still having catch with deal quarterback he's gonna get the edge by august he'll be playing by december who doubts i'm taking you up on that sandwich market down for here now weight loss is way more telling me then all that honoring six week why were they drop it if he's just gonna put it back on it just having a good time i think i saw joe thomas do this yeah but thomas different situation gronk he's he's having fun is cut loose but he's gonna start getting worked at remember this guy is thirty years old he don't put it on the board i gotta say english common a you know who's not coming back glover quin they former lions safety is retiring after ten seasons thirty three years old he's walking away i always set a goal of playing ten years he played it and he's done fourth round pick back and no nine by the texans but it really became a standout a when he got the detroit 'em he's the top free agent signing two thousand thirteen became a stalwart and that secondary 'em pro bowl bit second team all pro in two thousand fourteen led the nfl in interceptions a an underrated player kevin patra longtime along suffering lions fan is obviously great work writing up the news for nfl dot com wrote frankly he was one of the most underrated players during his six years in detroit and should have garnered more accolades including two thousand seventeen all pro am pro bowl snubs after what was arguably his best season was shaking his head no nodding his head preach kevin patra absolutely he made my two thousand seventeen all pro team and then the wheels kind of fell off last year he lost his he lost his speed but this guy is be nfc's version of devin mccourty at cornerback who came in and converted the safety and then pray played at a pro bowl level for the bulk of his lines career and if he played in new england he would've made more trouble a trouble lert donald trump alert truth truth truth patrick mahomes is coming up recordsetting mvp season but guess what he fatty that according to patrick mahomes who said this off season is all about shutting that quote baby fat a last year after training camp he was twelve percent body fat his goal is to be single digits here's what he said i'm gonna try to get as low as i possibly can while still being healthy and still having the body to be able to take a full season remember the saint patrick mahomes prosper five thousand ninety seven yards fifty fifty touchdowns one mvp trophy in his first year first full year hasn't nfl starter i you know i would say just come back exactly the same i wouldn't change at king keeps scarfing down those cheeseburgers you court building quarterback back back in the seventies when quarterbacks first started doing i don't get anything horrible it's great it's also let's not mean a ribbon asked have you said there's optic a back in the seventies when he's when john madden was announcing the quarterbacks first thirty the get into weightlifting he thought the main benefit wasn't released time that you were more willing to stand in and take a hit because you were more able to withstand the hit right i don't think pat mahomes needed any help on his nineteen and taken handle released on corpulent adjectives parentheses other person in parentheses fact a one of my favorites check 'isms dave damasec is saying someone a an overweight person is a generous carriage moves well from man of his care is like i've heard that from shed toward me before a moving on a new it is time a talion west about the nfl international combine in twenty nineteen or it's gonna be held joy joy joy in storage baby though h lan will be held in germany the league announced tuesday will conduct an nfl international combine in germany had a sports training facility outside do this or garbage from nine fifty still using different listen listen hopefully though since mushroom you love the song yeah you gotta find a way a wearable heightened anyway it's the workout at the same mirrors the nfl scouting combine in indy last year is in australia a this year it's in germany international combine will host of the fifty athletes selected the go through drills in front of nfl talent evaluators this is all part to be a international player pathway program which aims to provide international athletes opportunity to compete at the nfl level holding their skills and hopefully earned a spot on an nfl roster during the twenty nineteen to see the eighteenth apparent in additional overseas player on their practice squad this part as the program as a as part of the program and that reminds me ricky it's time check back in the low risk bowl ringer i don't have anything he is any currently converted the tight end and trying to catch on with the bengals sure issue keeping them this is how i know the handsome hank my friend henry hudson is doing a great job because vp of international here the nfl media did you even know there wasn't international combine in australia hell no well now this year we've got articles written were talking about podcasts were getting it out there henry's getting the news out hank hank is one of the more powerful men a behind the scenes he sneaky powerful and i've said the only thing that could keep him from one day being commissioner is that accident you know i i think what he needs to do is throw that thing 'em he every when whenever heck and if you know handsome hank if you listen to the dave damasec football program where he is a regular contributor if he tries to in american accident it always comes out tax and twang i'd say just go to that fulltime he'll be having office at the top of the park avenue estate a park avenue complex no time she could give voice lessons from its took a buddy mark jackson back in dallas these days exactly a finally in the news so nasty a young woman seen on video licking container of ice cream and putting it back in your freezer thinking oh you've been living oh you've alba tobacco tobacco a this is the newest thing it's all over the internet 'em people are licking the top of ice cream cartons put it in the back putting it on the internet and the viral challenge people getting thrown in jail is in the new york times actually an article just today in the times about a guy that a track down they tracked down the girl started in east texas who had the flu did she yes oh come on and then there's this other dude loonies lloyd martin the third thirty six year old unemployed man he's been in jail for days because he liked it a it was caught on camera he said i bossy ice cream licked i have the receipt they said we don't care either by when you looked at the slammer and you're staying there and you know what ricky i think that's fine leave on there i agree that's disgusting it's stupid to crack a book once in a while you'll going around doing stupid things i like to stay on cbs stay at a rite aid a stay out of stop and shop in vons stay away from ice cream library cracker book also quit trying to impress other people just stop yourself yeah just what what what what what nothing will cause you to do something like that i noticed that you may my friends had other audio if you only reason they do that i don't know why in ice cream who's in process if anyone's guess what i did over for the lincoln mentioned put it back out it'd be like i don't wanna speak to you every sophomores it's a bad job that's so what's happening in the news a quick stop all update before we get to the mailbag where do we stand eight into west we could never tell anyone else on the team specially some of the less motivated members of our team i want specify who ricky keep this in this conference room but after looking at it updated 'em glenn taking an update a glance at the standings we have clinched a playoff spot only happened three we will be playing for a third consecutive title something that even the uss women's national team is never done with three straight that that would be impressive win they're still drama left here we have to make sure that the tournament gets played on the right day so half our roster can show up right there soon room concerns about yeah there's rain makeup date that if it's not made up were gonna be down to of are top women a so we need some things cigar way a but eight and two two games the play before the big dance and erica this first season and with the shield softball team any take always surprises things you happy both injured disappointed by surprises would probably be how serious you guys take it i thought it was a bit i thought you guys were like oh yeah yeah but it's not you guys like legit serious like i i've never seen dan like you'd like sworn in like thrown bat against the fence like when you you like were popped out once you hit a sledgehammer like way out and see outfield and someone randomly caught it like it's not your fault that you're really good so that was funny to make it as like oh my god and they're like syria scotto slimmer slammer exclamation point yeah you know so you you're surprised how seriously think yeah but we have fun it's so much fun but it's also like fund as long as we were like dominate i'll be honest with you it's not fun to lose no no one likes no one likes to is another take away someone let my apartment on fire again last week again but i knew i knew you'll say what listeners might be like what is that after the softball team a we we speculated a few weeks back the first time that ricky's apartment was set believe that it was possibly the girl and are team that was told that she was not starting and eric goes instead starting in right center field a a day later the the apartment went up 'em we don't have any evidence cooperating that and we don't know for sure but we just thought that but now the top of the second time yeah it seems almost certain right it has to be an end they don't know that i moved apartment 'cause i did move about like two weeks ago so the jokes on them so the jokes on whoever is moving into my brain i guess i hope this person doesn't listen to the podcast yeah a because then they're gonna start putting together they might follow you home they know then i moved right yeah well let's cue again let's keep this investigation open but there is potentially west oh he's putting out fires apart in the 'em where certain women on the team and now we might have a situation where arson is involved swing to teammates outfielders what if arson and skunks were both simple not like this is been a weird stretch of time for me when i played in cincinnati are home ballpark for softball after the game every sunday night the whole family skunks would come out like right where where we sit and drink beer really just willing surly layers also we have thrown hotdogs and stuff really yeah when they when they never space that some hardcore west side cincinnati skunks come out at night just chill out at the base and they don't pray they sit there and needle each other in there you just there you 'em all right so yeah ricky expected contribution to from you a before the season's out that oh yeah i want you to win a game at some point oh yeah i'm kinda i believe in you oh yeah that's it the mailbag put out there this morning and of course you guys stepped up as you always do the listeners so let's dig into it a will start with a nice bp one that we could sink your teeth into a little bit nick i'll stick a rights given how spicy nb eight free agency has been what would you do to improve parenthetical if anything close burns article the heat level of nfl free agency how would you make nfl free agency see more beefy oh nice well i think there's there's a couple of things here first of all it can't be like dmv because of the scheming the coaches do in the nfl you need the players the match the scheme 'em the players are in control the union is in control and you mb eight is not in control here in for that reason and yeah you have super teams and you usually only have in the last five years couple of teams at a relevant in every year in the nfl's great strength besides the fact that it fits television so well is the parody every team has a chance every year that you don't get the vantage just because you're in a major market or because you're the glamour team i think that that's honestly look back even three or four years ago nfl free agency was pretty boring and it has been way spicer last couple of years is greg has noted with the trades on these i think it's really been beefed up a yeah i think it's been better maybe maybe in recent years but i totally see where next coming from july first when nbs fringe opened it was the center of the sports universe and it's a lot of fun tracking who's meeting with who who's recruiting who what billboard is up who's flying somewhere somewhere else they only time i could really think about that in my time here the nfl media is when peyton manning is a free agent and he really felt that 'em you felt that energy of where is he gonna go he's meeting here he might go here and that was a lot of fun i don't really i can't recall any other scenario the came close to matching that and i think one thing that really looking for what would be a change you could make 'em i think team and it's something that will see when the cbs say the new cbs gets rolled out after the twenty twenty season and hopefully without any work stoppage in between a the franchise tag really does keep exciting young just entering their prime players tethered heather to the team they get drafted by team they have no they have no choice where to go when they get drafted so then they get locked into either for a five year contract then they get the option to get franchise that could happen twice there's a transition tag it's all this stuff that's designed to keep these guys from maxing out their value and they open market i think if you somehow were able to negotiate that out free agency would be a lot of fun because guys after that four year period or five year period could hit the market at twenty six and i think that would change a lot of things a as as things stand now that's not the way it is that would be the one change i would make but i imagine these owners would rather shut down the league for two years then give out give up the franchise tag which is incredibly valuable yeah it's to me it's pick you pick do do you want the free agency it'd be fun or do you want the season to be fun there and i don't know if you if you allow super teams i don't think the nfl season is gonna be fun this off season though i think was once the bucks with antonio brown levy on bell i mean the odell beckham nobody saw coming so it's exciting when you have those big player mentioned trades you know what i mean those right right that's not just like any that's the off season season that's the trade sue nami that was talking about i agree with that right like they all season has gotten spicy spicy year through the trades nami but how do you make free agency will they nfl those were officially early mbh those officially trades to sign and trade the trade timmy the odell beckham is basically free agency that trading in free agency you're almost the same thing in sports and it is amazing how much power the players having envy when you compare it to what happens in the nfl which is very much still dominated by these owners and and the teams have the power and it does get me northwest about that cbs especially with the players union seeing what a bonanza how fun it is and lucrative it is over in san diego right now for these superstar players yeah new cbs should always get nervous all right next up let's go to do so many great cousins justin sullivan eighty four marcus mariota entering his fifth year speaking of rookie contracts and every year the same question remains is mary yoda franchise qb if you're john robinson the jim what do you have to see from mary yoda this year to sign him to a big contract td's interceptions yards health games played played in games one playoff appearance what do you need to say what do you need the sea west you get us going on this one while throw throw the stats out the window because they lack context and i don't think you can accurately judge quarterbacks by stats but i would say what john robinson has the see if threefold one stay off the injury list while remaining a threat to run in key situations that's number one he hasn't been able to do that yet number to make more plays outside the numbers in down the field this guy is a very good quarterback between the numbers his accuracy is great he just doesn't make enough plays outside the numbers and down the field where big plays happen so that element has been missing and one thing that really caught my last year if you remember when tony romo praised sam darnold having like special innate spatial awareness yes a mario to his missing that like he stepped into pressure instead of away from it it it really since pressure until it was too late his internal clock was off any took took way too many sacks i think that's the one problem like maybe a lot of people don't know about it has really held him back i agree with everything you said and i agree somewhat on the stats thing yes you can't don't use that the be all end all but i think if you're an elite quarterback you're you're a guy that's you're you're involved with thirty touchdowns a year you you're passer rating or i know you guys peripherally a what do you prefer the passer rating less gas qb are humans are great but i you know putting up about fifteen touchdowns year that's just to me that's not a guy that's not a franchise guy and injuries obviously played a big part in that he's missing parts of seasons every year but you know what you gotta stay on the field huge year for ryan that was a very good move i thought by them because tanna hills the guy who is waiting in the wings who i think could give that team spark potentially yeah although i wouldn't rule it out and he could if mario goes down tanny hill could take the the range and never giving back wasn't there just one article saying that like you know mary yoda is are quarterback you don't i for me it's just like you don't need to put out a statement like that if you're if you're sure of your franchise quarterback don't you think don't you think if there is a backup quarterback that you're you're team wouldn't have to be like just let you guys know they're definitely star quarterback well i think that that's a good point but i also think it's more about health with him then anything in you invite that question when you trade assigned tannahill you know you could just go with a regular backup a josh ostrom asks a dan if the knicks traded for russell westbrook would save this off season what a terrible off season for the knicks who seem locked and loaded a a have kevin durant's and perhaps more even seem like they could get the number one pick that didn't work out but no reason i bring this up ties into bnb ever just talking about but also with the knicks are now is a franchise is probably i think similar similar to probably have brown's felt the browns fans felt before baker mayfield showed up where everything just seems like lipstick on a pig right now if they got russell westbrook for instance what what a thirty thirty one year old guard do for that franchise they need to have somebody that is a game changing changing young talent like baker mayfield in cleveland maybe it would have been zion williamson that didn't work out a but a that is a where i come down on that well said i think it's about three years pass the time when you want russell westbrook on a team if you're rebuilding he was a problem for his team in the playoffs last year also one of the most expensive players in the league in terms of what's left on his contract steer clear the next meanwhile they'll probably end up getting him a moving a let's see our old friend jim laura game asks west if you had the cook one meal for gordon ramsay you respect ramsey in this game he's a little loud and obnoxious me all right look i mean just be me you have someone in this realm that you do respect well anthony bourdain dane would have been my first pick all right let's go late anthony let's go back in a better world or anthony bourdain is still with us if you could put one meal for board dane what would you make so you had dan my who made a mariner loved ragu so so i turn that into a new dish i make the marinate myself homemade and then i turned it put it on the big green egg through and some cream cheese some a eiffel tower pasta and smoked it on the big green egg in a cast iron skillet and it was one of the best things ever made that's what i would make for him and rookie canoe cook cook really loxley what would you make for the late anthony bourdain i'd probably make him like a really tricky hard to nail rizzo you're really tough arizona you could really screw up so that got it right you know paper brask snake river why'd you know been are producer for a while now at what point is there a text the goes out to me any other fellows hey i'm cooking dinner now come on over brings in one place night all those yeah i do i actually did wanna have you guys over my new house warming little one night and i'll cook let's put on the books i wanna iron chef competition at u n h with my buddy i want a screen tv what did you make that was like a steak and i did a mushroom asparagus rizzo though nice in the magic ingredient with hickama chicken yeah i gotta look this up it's like an apple potato i kinda like eighty west erica tempos he wrote down no no no no or just like a another two hander like some tony reality cooking show the great yeah right that's good all right a did the did the ooh what's more likely let's do it dean bonner asks the saints make its third straight nfc championship game for the browns make the playoffs now i don't believe the saints made nfc title game two years ago and then they get knocked out by the vikings in the divisional playoffs on the miracle in minneapolis and then the eagles beat the vikings yes that's incorrect dean but let's just say well the saints returned to the nfc title game or the browns make the playoffs mm interesting interest well i think the browns have a playoff roster and the top of the nfc is pretty loaded to me they're all a lot of really good playoff super bowl contender type of teams a lot harder to make the conference finals and to make the playoffs so i think it's more likely at the browns make the playoffs i i put it probably pretty close but it is easier to win the nine or ten games get to the post season so i would put the browns is more likely but as we've talked about on this podcast and i'm on marks radar for it i'm not as 'em you know pumped about pennsylvania the browser twelve wins and the nfc title game is a lot of other people seem to be a my eyes are wide open about expectations and how that could crush a team or leads to a slow start that they may or may not recover from so i'm not as bullish on brown's but i think that is a very talented roster and yes more likely in the saints get back the game again we gotta save drew brees still sling we do an i i know are the saints really that much better than like the eagles cowboys bears rams mhm mark ingram is unimportant guy in that locker room in a field he's no longer in the picture 'em all right let's move on dave evans asks greg fails a drug test that would never happen and get suspended for the twenty nineteen season season which member of the football gods and i said they do you choose to replace him right this timmy it was it was really i could go either way on this 'em mike tirico right there i feel like three go 'em would be a great addition total pro's pro so versus style but then i thought you'd better hosting may never want that in the studio so three goes out so i'm i'm gonna go little debbie fulltime presidency bay area rap star a friend of the show maker eight twenty four seven fulltime member of the crew it's amazing how much this question has changed in the last five years that now we've been we've been told that you probably aren't gonna go so far with four white in the middle ages but i'm in my thirties but you guys are definitely you're looking down the barrel of for now so i think they call me kid dynamite i would look to diversify an i the first thing i would do is you know obviously check with fox and try to get her back yacht steve weiss has been a natural on the show patrick clave on 'em kisha you never know a little nepotism i liked that hey if she's good enough to do it chicken and i get me in trouble colleen i'm not counting colleen colleen oh she's already out yeah she would be the natural drill sliding but she's very busy woman with her thursday night football and good morning football duties rising star while we've kind of had that ceiling yeah that's that's fair i mean you almost everyone we would consider you'd have to say would you mind stepping back and an hour so we need you behind the glass i know you're thinking well natural succession i slide in through the door a i just think where we are right now it's better that you were in the producer all at this moment okay thanks appreciate the honesty moving on a from frank sigmatic p i also noticed frank underscore marietta 'em but you could interview yeah yeah okay bring reza may i'm gonna put on the business of frank says the value placed on the dual threat quarterback fern nfl often seems to be climbing and climbing are we watching the beginning of the end of the true pocket passer ooh good question frank west where they say well i think the easy answer is people have been asking this question since randall cunningham was you know a second year player with the eagles in in the late eighties 'em an answer from nfl types is always been they pocket passer will always have a place because running quarterbacks injured in i think it's worth reviewing that at least insane now win quarterbacks don't get hit as much and it's a big penalty to hit them 'em it's almost flag football to the point where the quarterbacks have treated like punters 'em it is that still relevant today i know they a running quarterback is still gonna have to get outside the pocket and take it but we've seen guys like russell wilson who has immaculate instincts on winter get down went to avoid hits not every quarterback gonna have those instincts but i think some of that can be taught a little bit slow between the rule changes in teaching that i do think we're gonna see way more running quarterbacks but i don't think the pocket quarterback will be will be extinct i mean look at the best guys in the last you know half decade tom brady drew brees aaron rodgers right if you get sling it and you have that spatial awareness and you could show those leadership skills there's always gonna be a role for those guys but a yeah we what we've scene is you have the dog's ability you are invaluable all right here's the next one coming up a daniel anderson which team is this year's twenty sixteen raiders sim seemingly from nowhere pulling it twelve and four so a the two thousand fifteen just refresh my memory twenty fifteen raiders went seven and nine so maybe they weren't quite as bad as danny remembers a but a who is the team kind of buried in their division west last year they you'd be surprised to see a make eight you know double digit win season type run not even ten eleven eleven plus wins we always had the preface this i guess swith except the browns right i mean would you also say except the packers escape the packers adams is well yeah except the carolina panthers yeah injured quarterback so i've been there is no to me those are the three obvious ones and i don't see a team i mean jets and bills i love what they've done this off season they still have a lot of question marks jimmy tags jags yeah because of their defense but i look at their all fence i'm i'm doing some some articles on deepest and famous position groups in the leg was assigned to me by or gracious editor i'll leave on party 'em an so you jags often in first finished position groups is basically their entire often what about you boys the broncos six and ten last year i i get tired of back on the show because you guys really lack or if lugo that's the question i don't see a twelve and four out of them i see attendance six possibly but i don't see one of those like he's going for the mvp award like derek carr with going for the mvp award that year all right so you don't have the spines thrown out the first three out there but they were all in eligible yeah his in here comes the onion hangar all right bruce arians the tampa bay buccaneers bang 'cause he's still got the love of the game was you gary ends in the booth and he's out of the game too long and he's no longer a quarterback whisper and they can't do it in a box or say well guess what five and eleven flip it eleven and five let's fly based on what really well i just explained the bruce arians is one of those coaches west is like that that parcels you know he's the guy with the parcels background a he is one of those guys that could have a trans formative affect on the team and one of the most most important a three positions a forensic team ownership head coach quarterback well guess what you you put the old coach out the c you brought in a great one arians and it's the guy could fix the quarterback that's two out of three that ain't bad do you have a lot more confidence and byron left which in james winston then i do byron all right now you're not now areas isn't even involved with you off he's not this is been story that he had a lefty often the left which who is handling it himself it will be calling the place you know what he's trying to cause errands is that selfless china get his boy left which i absolutely so it's put it out there who did that remember mike mccarthy did that didn't go so yeah you gotta take back over if the bucks getting a similar quagmire guess what bruce is i didn't think he played carole king and it's too late baby all right more before we get out of here a that the let's see a care offense a from jordan lane for the two biggest baseball fans on the pod thoughts on the state of the game and if the league put too much emphasis on home runs aj joost the balls well this goes way beyond juice paul's i mean this is been in the works for a while since moneyball came out in the move to analytics and the move away from treating players as humans in more towards assembly line pieces where emotions were out of the game an what the big thing i think if you look now versus even ten years ago the biggest difference in the game to me as umpires are so much better what the strike zone the hitters in pitchers can rely on at borderline call going exactly how it should go and it's made batters so much more confident about taking borderline pitches and now you have everybody's waiting on a walk pitches are waiting on a strike out in and batters went the home run in his boring boring baseball that's my opinion again who knows if this could change you're not i'm sure the guys from the eighteen nineties who were doing the baltimore chop looked at the nineteen fifties based on said these guys don't run all they do is sit around and hit homers i mean and then it took black players latin players an asterik turf to get the game exciting again after the fifties so on and i will see you never really couldn't tell what's gonna say baseball but every generation ass when it's gonna be saved a yeah i think overall it's good i think it's good for the game a home runs but i will say that justin verlander the astro's all star who had some cutting comments this week a head of the all star game about a juice baseball's it's an effing joke major league baseball turning this game into a joke they own rawlings and they've got manfred his they a commissioner up here saying it might be the way they center the pill they own the company if any other forty billion dollar company brought out at four hundred million dollar company and the product change dramatically it's not a guess as to what happened he ain't wrong and i get it he's a pitcher and he makes his living 'em trying to get people out on the mound a is ironically radically his career skyrocketed as this power surge has come about after his trade from the astro's or went into a second gear after it seemed like he had been in decline but that's not really the point i think that it's good but also what to your point use my favorite team yankees and example last year they set the home run home run rocket for a team and that was not a team that yankee fans really liked those very home runs strikeout walk three outcome baseball this year a they're having success again but they're they're putting the ball in play more they're just the more fun team to watch dj lemay hugh and players like that are a little bit more exciting and guys the strikeout to and and twenty times well this this is a complex issue and we could do an entire show on it but to me so every baseball game if you watch it all the way through his sort of like a house of cards each any is a new layer inattention rises every time and then by the eighth and ninth ending in eight well played game that tension releases the house of cards come down and that's where the glory of baseball happens all that layering in subtle nece in texture and it's all being taken out of the game by the three true outcomes stuff in i think baseball has known this for thirty years they have known this way the the games gone and instead of fixing fixing the game they've juice the ball moved in the fence is taken personality indistinct styles from managers away from the game and now you're left with this kind of boring everybody does the same thing game that's it's just not that aesthetically appealing as it was 'em and yet west tonight combined to watch about a hundred and fifty five out of a hundred sixty two games this year still beautiful game but there's always room for improvement easy with a home runs at how about those london games yankees red sox yeah that wasn't fun to watch that was basically an arena league baseball series and it was the introduction of the sport to a lot of people overseas 'em but that was i don't even know what was going on did you happen to catch any of that was i didn't even imagine but it seemed like the fence is worship where short and the turf was fast it was just it was absurd and let's move on a judge adam fox craft fox croft conair the rock or face off of the great nick cage trilogy of the nineties obviously face off a i i completely bonkers performance by cage and also travolta who to me steals that phil right out from under nick cage in his primes see i believe is the rock the one that has catherine zeta jones w beneath lasers oh that was a that one of the different now that is a different one well there's not a good movie i've never seen face off i made about halfway through conair beauty before i decided to ridiculous the watch but i did make it through the rock so i'm gonna put that on there you go a captain zeta jones under lasers canoe google that are just so he could remember what movie that was because one of those one word titles back in the day dean bonner asks quality to find haji a a the browns become a dominant force but marcus assessor becomes insufferable as a fan or the patriots fall hard from their lefty purge in greg rosenthal become so so depressed entrapment entrapment a perfect name for the nineties maybe he is seriously considering changing careers and becoming a tennis blogger wait let stuff on tozzi browse become a dominant force force but mark sesser becomes an insufferable thin or the patriots fall hard from their lofty perch and greg rosenthal become so depressed is seriously considering changing careers and becoming attendance blogger i think it's way more likely the greg would take a long hard look in the mirror and switch professions i just don't see mark ever becoming and then noxious fan he doesn't try to sell you the trust his team enough to be obnoxious that's just not that's not who mark is personality wise i could see greg who's already deeply obsessed with tennis maybe going down that road at a later point is but i don't think because of the patriots greg has feelings i don't think he would be like oh my god the patriots like me yeah a that's right that's correct to a all right a it's two more andrew louis asks what album would west most wanna give the throwback treatment synergy the throwback podcasts of course my podcast a new podcast joan where we look back at an album put out in the last you know twenty ten twenty thirty years revisit it talk about it what about you as okay so i've got sort of a top five or six here but i wanna know if you guys have done means before i wish that i think of things but you guys have not already done have you done mermaid avenue by billy bragging wilco we have not that would be high upfront may writing these down by the way neil young harvest moon we have not done that a lauren hill the miseducation of lauren hill we have not done that yet but look kisha wesseling your wife your wife said she wanted to do that album that could be ideal a west keyshawn joy to watch this one you may have done jeff buckley grace i love grace a have not done it it's almost such a heavy out and be a little weird and the throwback pod format but doesn't mean we wanna do it okay to more johnny cash's american recordings is that the covers up yeah nice weather is like a series of like for them yeah and then finally one way off you're radar i love this album robert bradley's blackwater surprise is the name of the group in the album is blackwater surprise it is eight blind middle age african american son of sharecropper one of thirteen children who ends up in detroit aunt these early twenties white rockers hear him singing on the sidewalk for money they station them as the head of their group in he's the singer he's the writer in everything is like this soul blues little bit of rock mixture is just incredible do you have any of those albums a now nor a diet i have the wilco the billy bragg one a grace i have 'em lauren hill have i mean you love harvest moon obviously who doesn't love that right so great so unknown legend also and then album is a great so there you go that's it that's it for the mailbox close up the mailbag good stuff not even interrupted once erica during a conference room podcasts yes quick call people walk by looked at us like we were crazy well that's their problem to they're just they're they're they're living in envy because they don't get the headset off right they don't have the cords and they don't have the laptops because this is a status symbol right now you know what it says important people in a conference room in the conference room all right when we get back into the studio on the real studio yeah we got like two weeks of that oh damn yeah all right so will be back on thursday thursday okay we're gonna have greg back i believe from japan mark malone maybe maybe i would i would lean toward the weekend or the month after where did the year after wherever the tumbleweed faking a all right good stuff west satisfied that what's good all right then had the signing up for the mailman mailman chris wesseling future throwback podcast guest tim i n ricky hollywood ready softball game this week thursday gee i can't wait till i got a hike for

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