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"frank vogel" Discussed on Bob Ryan & Jeff Goodman NBA Podcast

Bob Ryan & Jeff Goodman NBA Podcast

02:59 min | 6 months ago

"frank vogel" Discussed on Bob Ryan & Jeff Goodman NBA Podcast

"Do you trust his mental makeup? Or do you think he'll be more motivated and go off against the Celtics? The latter, yeah. Absolutely. Bob, go ahead. I'm worried. I'm worried. No, he's going to be he's going to be a real threat. Forget just analyze him as a ballplayer and forget about the personality. There are people who categorically say that he is the greatest finisher at his size in the history of the game. Period that he goes to the basket. What say you? What say you, bob? I never seen anybody better at that size. I was saying the same thing about the Isiah Thomas at his size. He remains the most amazing thing at his size that I've ever seen getting to that. But when kairi's going to the basket, it is a breathtaking event. He's amazing. His ambidexterity is his body control this inventiveness, everything is just handle. His handle is there. He used the fastest, he is the fastest, quickest slipperiest. He goes into a crowd and he comes out, I'm like, how did that happen? I'm sorry. There we go. There's another one for me, but it's a little bit different here, but I don't want to discount him. He's right up in that category and they're about the same size. So here's my thing, Jeff. Answer your question. It's somewhere in the middle. I don't think Kyrie has to be where bob says he's going to be, though, if I had to choose, I agree with bob. I think he has to be good enough because if you look at Kevin Durant and I thought Durant in the last playoffs, you know, when I mean, Kyrie was out, Hardin was not himself. It was just all Katie. I thought Katie's performance was exemplary. I thought it was balls. So you bring that in the 70% Kyrie? I think it's good enough to win in Boston. It could be. It could be. Because I don't want to take anything away from the Celtics. But Robert Williams, they're not going to have Robert Williams. Right. And I don't think enough people are talking about that. I feel like you're taking away arguably their most important defensive player. And in a game where they're going to need them, like in a series, they're going to need them, right? We're talking about Kyrie. And his ability to get to basket and finish through contact around contact, whatever. But you're talking about Kevin Durant and his ability to his first step and get there and his length and athleticism and ability obviously, we know he could shoot it from three, but beyond that, he could put it in the floor. And if you don't have, if you have Al Horford and Daniel tice down there, let's face it. That's a little bit different. But then I'm being smart ass here. You know, you know how I.

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"frank vogel" Discussed on Bob Ryan & Jeff Goodman NBA Podcast

Bob Ryan & Jeff Goodman NBA Podcast

05:01 min | 6 months ago

"frank vogel" Discussed on Bob Ryan & Jeff Goodman NBA Podcast

"That's what I'm saying. The difference is right now, if you went one to 8, the clippers at least they're 42 and 40 in the east, Cleveland is 44 and 38. You would not have a single team under 500. If you did it the way we want it done. So I think we're in agreement. It's here. It's here. And we're very much curious to see number one if Cleveland can pull off the upset. I will wrap this up by making a philosophical statement and maybe you're getting very deep. It's just part of our sports society that we just keep on adding on adding on adding on adding on adding on because we have technology because we can. At some point in time, we're going to have to say, you know what, we don't need more replay. We don't need more games. We don't need more progress. Coaches. Gary, I'm worried because coaches, if they, if they have their say, they would expand the NCAA tournament from now 68 to a 128. They would. Yeah, because but see, Jeff, they have the tech, they have the media is there. I mean, look, we're on TV for God's sakes. I mean, everybody wants content. I mean, seriously though, the three of us are on watering their channel. Everybody wants content. So if they go to a 120 teams, somebody will buy it. Of course, of course, somebody will buy it. But it just gets watered down. And it just gets that some point. It gets watered down. And you'll say, why do I want to watch, I mean, honestly, why the hell do I want to watch this playing game with the San Antonio spurs? Why? Why? Give me one reason. Give me one reason why I want to watch the spurs New Orleans..

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With Vogel out, who will fill Lakers' coaching void?

AP News Radio

00:40 sec | 6 months ago

With Vogel out, who will fill Lakers' coaching void?

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"frank vogel" Discussed on Lakers Nation Podcast

Lakers Nation Podcast

05:26 min | 6 months ago

"frank vogel" Discussed on Lakers Nation Podcast

"Matt and I will get to those in just a bit. What did you think about Mac mcclung tonight? While he was brought up, got submitted here for the Lakers, Frank Vogel said in the pregame that he was going to get an opportunity to play tonight, winds up playing 22 minutes, two for 5 shooting 6 points, 5 fouls, one block one steel, three boards. What are your thoughts on his performance, the G league rookie of the year? Kids got bounced. He does say that. Not even the dunk, but on some of those ballots on some of those foul calls, he was getting up there and trying to swap people stuff into the stands. I could appreciate that about him. I mean, I wasn't expecting much. Honestly, I knew he was going to get minutes. He's earned that two way deal, which is congrats to Mac mcclung for that. I definitely can see him being kind of like a hustle energy guy at the end of your bench. There's a guy that's escaping me right now who reminds me exactly of him. But I think he can be that type of player in the NBA. I don't really know if he's ever going to get extended minutes on a good team, but I think there are tools there that I didn't think he'd be able to get to because I think the thing with him is just size. He is a model position defender. He's only going to be able to guard point guards. He's not going to be able to live in switch heavy lineups. So kind of limits his upside and but I mean, I do like the athleticism. I like the effort that he plays, but I think his first play was a steal that he saved out of bounds. When he dove into the sidelines, I think, or was it the baseline? I don't remember, but that to me is a player that can always stick on any team as the end of bench guy who just needs to come in and give you a couple minutes as energy. So good for him. I thought it was a solid debut and I hope he lands with the Lakers in summer league again. I hope we get to see him again. I think his size was an issue that nuggets got some weight switch hunting after him and they scored them a few times, but you could see why people like him too. I mean, he's got that balance. He's got that and he's got that hustle that hard that he goes after it. Tim is a low ball as I see the quote you put in there with the super chat. I appreciate it. That's the Frank Vogel quote that we went over already. We'll talk about that a bit more in a minute. But Mac mcclung. I mean, pretty solid. Pretty solid performance from him..

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"frank vogel" Discussed on Lakers Nation Podcast

Lakers Nation Podcast

04:51 min | 6 months ago

"frank vogel" Discussed on Lakers Nation Podcast

"I think you and I both agree that he could have been fired at multiple points throughout this year. But I just, I don't know, man, this is just not a good look. And I don't like this being handled the way it was. I mean, I can't really blame woes because he's the reporter and he's reporting on what he's hearing. So if anything, I kind of shifting more of my disappointment toward the organization and whoever it is in the team or the front office because again, that's just poor taste. Yeah, I mean, whatever's getting out there, it needs, that's a conversation that needs to be had with Frank Vogel first. Like you said, this isn't a surprise at all. This is 100% regardless of what happens tonight. It's 100% expected that Frank Vogel was going to be like oh, and the Lakers were going to find a new coach. What would you mention an exhaustive search and all of that? Yeah, that's that is what there's no way Frank Vogel isn't aware of that. He knows that he's not staying, right? It's not, it's not like this is shocking news. But the timing of it just looks really bad. And it winds up being a bad look for a Lakers team that has already had questions about the workings of their front office about how discombobulated discombobulated might be. It rose in a story that came out, saying that he got that kind of sense that things were kind of disorganized. And now you've got this. And this is, look, Frank Vogel, again, I'm not saying he didn't, he shouldn't have been let go. I think that was the clear correct decision. Said many times, I think of Jason Kidd, hadn't taken the Mavs job. He was getting the Lakers job by what December, maybe January, the latest, that would have happened. So I'm not saying this is the wrong decision. No, absolutely not. But the timing of this does not look good or the Lakers. We took you took a positive game, a positive feel good moment and to follow it up by that. It's not a good look and it doesn't suggest good things about the Lakers organization. Now again, how much of this was the information got to load and then maybe you can't stop it and what would you say, well no, I have to beat shop, so I'm putting this out there now. There's a whole game within the game. So I don't even know where exactly the blame needs to be directed here. But the Lakers organization is caught in this and does not look good for the way this went down. Yeah, like the news itself is not a surprise. I think we're all waiting for it to eventually happen. It's just the timing of things is really key here. And I know, I get it. It's a game of games within the reporting business here. It can be a dirty business to be quite honest with you guys. But to see it happen like this is just so unfortunate and I can't even really get like a second to breathe and enjoy a win as a band because now I've got to talk about vocal being fired possibly tomorrow even. It's just not fun. Yeah. Yeah, it's definitely, it's definitely not. Okay, let me get into some of the super chats here. And see what we've got. Let me see what we've got, because I know we've got a lot of them that are coming in here. I've been saving them guys because I wanted Matt and I to be able to talk a little bit here, but I've been saving them..

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"frank vogel" Discussed on Lakers Nation Podcast

Lakers Nation Podcast

04:54 min | 6 months ago

"frank vogel" Discussed on Lakers Nation Podcast

"Triple double. Saving the best for last. What a fun game. Austin Reeves gets the shot late with a steal to get the game to overtime and then makes big plays. We got a lot to talk about tonight. And then as soon as the game ends, we get word that Frank Vogel will be let go by the Los Angeles Lakers ton to break down. By the way, Malik monk did his thing, went off, had a nice scoring night as well. Oh my. So much to dive into. Joining me is Matt the optimist Peralta. Matt, how are you doing? I feel like I just got out of a really bad long-term relationship and a weight slipped it off my shoulders. But before we broke up, we had a nice farewell. That's exactly how I feel after tonight's game. But do you think the blood is still on woes mouth, you think? I feel like it's still there. Before we broke up, we had a nice farewell. Are you talking about like a breakup encounter? Is that what you're talking about here, Matt? No, it's like a nice. That's how we're starting to show. Nice conversation. It was a nice conversation. We broke everything down and then we agreed we needed to part ways. Okay. Yeah, come on. Let's start with the good. Let's start with the good because I got to admit, I'm not happy with the way things went with Frank Vogel and the tweet that went out. And that whole thing. But I don't want to, I don't want to start with negativity, not in a game like this. This was the, this may have been the best game in the season, honestly. Just in terms of, and I know that sounds ridiculous because it's the Lakers bench guys against the nuggets bench guys and all that. But just in terms of being fun, I thought it was going to be another fake comeback, even tweeted about it. It was not, and I love it, was not a fake comeback. Austin Reeves making these big plays, dropping a triple double. I mean, this game had everything. Malik monk 41 points and he didn't even play in overtime. Malik monk 41 points, Austin Reeves, 31, 16, ten, two steals, 7 for 17 shooting, 14 to 14 from the line, three of 5 from deep. This game was awesome. This was so much, it reminded us how much fun basketball can be. And it was the way that you want to end the season. If you had to pick any way to end the season, this was it. It's been the worst season ever. At least give the fans something positive to go out on. And Austin Reeves, Malik monk, all these young guys, when you Gabriel, they went out there and Stanley Johnson, they went out there and they did it. They gave fans something a lasting positive experience to head into the off season..

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"frank vogel" Discussed on Lakers Nation Podcast

Lakers Nation Podcast

05:19 min | 8 months ago

"frank vogel" Discussed on Lakers Nation Podcast

"So yeah, you know, a lot of different combinations here. And I think it just goes to show you that the Lakers don't really know exactly what they have because just guys haven't been completely healthy and I know people are tired of hearing that as well, but it's just the truth. I don't have numbers in front of me or anything, but I bet if I looked at different lineup combinations, I bet the minutes totals compared to other teams across the league. It's probably a lot lower. That'd be my guess. And we did this a little bit last year, too. But not to this degree, right? The question was, is Mark assault in the starting lineup your best bet? Or is it somebody else? Is it Andre Drummond now, right? Is it his turn in the starting line, right? So we did this a little bit, but not like this. Not like this where you have so many different possible answers. And then you think back to the stability of the championship season. The starting lineup unless there was an injury like Avery Bradley got hurt for a little bit. Oh, bummer. Avery Bradley's hurt. Okay, KCP. Fully capable guy. Can step in, right? It was Danny Green, either KCP or Avery, Bradley, LeBron James, Anthony Davis, JaVale McGee. Those were your starters, and then Frank Vogel got to tinker with things come play off time. We saw marquee Morris for a little bit. We saw Dwight Howard log major minutes against Nikola Jokić. He got to mix and match. But for most of the regular season, that was the starting lineup. We didn't have this discussion. And I think it just speaks to what a mess, the off season was in terms of putting a roster together that here we are, and we still can't pinpoint what the best starting 5 is. I mean, again, like, Tino faults of rob's fault or whoever else you want to blame. I mean, injuries have definitely played a role in that. But I do think that given the circumstances it is a little crazy that we're in the beginning of February now when we're talking and we still don't really have a starting lineup that everyone can competently say, this is what we're going to come out with tonight. And mat thinking about that 2020 teams insane. I guess I'm just reminiscing over good things now because I just don't have a lot to look forward to when it comes to Lakers games, but man, it's crazy. We had Caruso, KCP coming off the bench, Dwight. I guess it just goes to show and I think this is like a good example for fans to realize how important chemistry and continuity are when team building. A lot of Lakers players have echoed this sentiment is that they just haven't had time on the floor together to figure things out and it kind of feels like everyone's just waiting for people to come back and then people come back and then someone else goes out. It's been a theme the past two seasons and it's incredibly frustrating and it's sad that it's still a talking point and it's still applicable to this day. Two steps forward and two steps back. I think the Lakers themselves the front office may have taken it for granted because you think about how quickly that title team came together almost from the get go..

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"frank vogel" Discussed on Lakers Nation Podcast

Lakers Nation Podcast

03:54 min | 8 months ago

"frank vogel" Discussed on Lakers Nation Podcast

"I agree. Now, Frank Vogel did imply that the defensive concerns with the smaller lineups he believes he can fix. Sure. Whereas the scoring with the bigger lineups, he can't. And so that's part of why he believes he can get better on the defensive end of the floor. And no surprise there. He's the defense first guy. He believes that he can fix that. So we'll see what winds up happening with the Lakers. They are indeed playing fast, third of the NBA pace. I went over this on yesterday's show, but they've only moved up four spots in three point percentage. They moved up from 21st, last season to 17th this season. Not a big enough bump, they're 7th in the NBA and steals, which suggests that you're getting enough turnovers, but they're also getting crushed on the offensive glass and part of that is that size problem that we've seen here. And so that's preventing them from getting out and running as much as you would want this team too. But that does lead us into our next topic though. Bring Vogel. He about, okay, everybody's healthy. Let's say everybody's out there. And remember, we got one game. We got one game Matt of LeBron. AD and Russell Westbrook being healthy and then LeBron was out the neat with the knee issue, but let's say LeBron comes back. Let's say he doesn't play against clippers, but fingers crossed, he comes back against the next. Everybody's healthy. Frank vocal said he doesn't know what the starting lineup is. Now, part of that, part of that. I wouldn't just assume that Frank Vogel seriously has no idea what his starting 5 is and he's just completely clueless. Part of that is he's not going to tell the media, right? He's not going to reveal his starting. He's the coach that doesn't even reveal his starting lineup for that day's game until the second forces him to. But I don't believe that he really doesn't know, but he says he's not locked in on any particular starting 5. We are 65% of the way through. There's about 30 games left in the scene..

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"frank vogel" Discussed on Lakers Nation Podcast

Lakers Nation Podcast

04:04 min | 8 months ago

"frank vogel" Discussed on Lakers Nation Podcast

"Down today. We're going to focus quite a bit. But some of the things Frank Vogel said after practice today, some things that raise some eyebrows. We also got an update on LeBron James. It was a little bit different than the news that was out there earlier in the day. So we've got some things to get into today. Joining me. For this show, Matt the optimist Peralta, optimism prime, Matt, how are you doing? I'm doing good, Trevor. It's good to know that the live show curse is no longer applicable. They're on a three game losing streak, even though I've taken a break. So I guess it's safe for me to come back on, right? Absolutely it is. It's been proven. It's not you. It's not you that causing the Lakers to lose. It's something else who knows what that could be. Um, I don't know. Maybe LeBron being out could be a big part of it. But no, fortunately it is not Matt the optimist Peralta. Yes, thank God. I miss talking Lakers basketball with you, Trevor, and our wonderful fans here at Lakers nation. So it's good to be back. All right, let's talk a little bit about LeBron James. So LeBron, obviously still do it with swelling in his knee. Frank Vogel, today after practice, we got a chance to chat with him and he said LeBron is officially doubtful for the game against the Portland Trail Blazers. Most people listening to this on Wednesday. It'll be today's game, we're recording this night before, but in any event, the game against the Portland Trail Blazers, LeBron, according to Frank Vogel, officially listed as doubtful earlier in the day he was reported as being out according to charms rania. Plus out for a few more games after that, Frank Vogel didn't seem to echo that sentiment. He mentioned that LeBron again doubtful for this game, did not work out at the facility, was getting treatment off site, but characterized this again as just swelling and this is a very key word that he used. I think is important, Matt. He said it's preventative that what they're doing right now is to get LeBron back to 100% to make sure it doesn't turn into a bigger injury. To me, that suggests that whatever's going on right now is not all that serious. And there was some concern that maybe there was something else going on in there that maybe the Lakers weren't sharing or they're being secretive about Frank Vogel using the term preventative makes me feel a lot better. Yeah, it makes me feel a lot better too. And I kind of figured that was the case the entire time. Obviously, when Anthony Davis was out, Frank Vogel was writing LeBron James pretty hard, and he did it in a place of extra minutes..

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"frank vogel" Discussed on The Crossover NBA Show with Chris Mannix

The Crossover NBA Show with Chris Mannix

05:09 min | 11 months ago

"frank vogel" Discussed on The Crossover NBA Show with Chris Mannix

"And he'll look, he's gonna have to deal with the weight of the losses too. That comes into play ultimately. You've got to have absolutely just spectacular individual stats to overcome that. I don't think it's I don't think most of us vote for rookie of the year. You're expected, especially because most of the best rookies go to shitty teams, you're not necessarily gonna hold that against them. But when push comes to shove if it's close, if it's a two or three man race, you do start to lean toward the guy who contributed more to winning. So that's gonna be tougher for Cunningham and certainly for Jalen green. So when it comes to the award, you know, Barnes and Moby as guys who are, look, both teams could miss the playoffs. You know, I'm not sure the Cavs are gonna really hold on to where they are in the standings now. Maybe they make the play in. The raptors can make the play in. But I think that the records of those two teams clearly will be better than Detroit's in Houston's. All right, I don't want to spend too much time on most improved. This miles bridges, right? Like, is there another guy missing at this point? I mean, there's been good players. Don't get me wrong, but miles bridge is averaging 20 points per game this season up from 12 last year. Playing 36 minutes a night for this hornet's team and he's been good on both ends. The three points she was kind of cooled off as of late, but I think over the course of the season, he's going to be a mid 30s type three point shooter. And he kind of fits my criteria Howard where I don't like to give this award to like top 5 picks. I mean, a lot of people vote for top 5 picks. They're supposed to improve miles bridges a few years ago was the 12th pick in the draft. Those guys have some expectations, but he is in the all star mix this year and that to me makes him the obvious leading candidate right now for most improved. How would you feel about a guy who was 13th in the draft? Does he qualify? He would qualify. Okay. Let me introduce you to Tyler hero. You may have heard of that. Well, he's going to come up shortly. So he's Tyler Tyler hero just to go over his numbers and his improvement from last year. Obviously, a disappointing sophomore season at 15 points a game he's up to 21.8, so he has made a 7 almost 7 point improvement. He's shooting almost 40% from three point range. He's a three 98 up from 360 last season. And his rebounds are up, his sister up a tick. He's had a bunch of really big games for the heat. And he's playing a really important role on a you know he's probably their third best player right now..

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"frank vogel" Discussed on The Crossover NBA Show with Chris Mannix

The Crossover NBA Show with Chris Mannix

05:43 min | 11 months ago

"frank vogel" Discussed on The Crossover NBA Show with Chris Mannix

"Other guys who should at least note, I think Tyler's done a fantastic job with the Clippers, Eric spoelstra per usual with the heat and Billy Donovan with the bulls. I think all those guys would be in the discussion. Yep. It's a button up the Phoenix stuff, Deandre ayton's averaging 18.4 points 10.2 rebounds. That's a career high. And he's shooting 64% from the field. Just max them out already. Somebody's gonna maximize. What were you waiting for? But again, right, on the basketball side, if Robert server doesn't have enough to account for with everything else on the basketball side, he has a long history as being a bit of a cheapskate and we're seeing that again on the 8 in front. Crazy. Crazy. All right, rookie of the year is up next. It's a pretty clear choice for me. Let's see if it is for you. Who is your rookie of the year so far? It's really neck and neck. I know you're an immobile guy and I'm sure that's where you're going. But no, I just know it? No. Chris duarte? Go ahead. It's a two man race between Scotty Barnes of the raptors and immobile of the cabs. And even look, I'm gonna go through the stats real quick, 'cause this is how close it is. Bards is at 15.2 points a game, Moby's at 14.5, not even a full point behind him. Assists Barnes 3.3 mobile 2.5. Rebounds, Barnes, 8.3, mobile 8.1. Free throw percentages are close. They're both shooting about a little over three free throws per game. Effective field goal percentage. 5 O four for bars, 5 16 for mobley. And then, of course, there's just the inverse on steals and blocks. Barnes says 1.1 steals, a little bit ahead of mobile. Mobile's got 1.8 blocks way ahead of bars, but nobody's a big man that tends to be the case. And in terms of impact, the calves are the bigger surprise because they've been so bad for so long and mobley is a big reason not the sole reason, but a big reason why they're suddenly respectable, the raptors are still kind of trying to find themselves again. And they're both starting and playing every night and playing big minutes and playing big roles like as it stands right now, Chris, if we had to file ballots, I don't even know, I'm not sure how I would go. But you seem to have a good idea about where you're going. No, I mean, I agree it's close. But and I am an Eva mobley guy, like watching him out there. He has been incredible. Like, his defensive ability is the kind of thing we haven't seen at that spot since Anthony Davis. It is. I don't know what the exact numbers are right now, but his contests, which are not sexy numbers that people see in a traditional box score, but he's contesting shots at the rim. He's contesting three point shots..

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"frank vogel" Discussed on The Crossover NBA Show with Chris Mannix

The Crossover NBA Show with Chris Mannix

03:47 min | 11 months ago

"frank vogel" Discussed on The Crossover NBA Show with Chris Mannix

"That's not gonna do it. And Vogel has nothing to do with all of that. The personnel is much more the problem than anything about rotation or scheme. So I agree with you there. But, you know, look, part of this, obviously, LeBron is missed half their game so far, 11 of 22. And he has not been at his best. LeBron is shooting 8 threes a game, career high, but only shooting 34% on them. And his free throw attempts are down. This is what often happens, right? You get older in your career, you start settling for more jump shots, you drive less. That's an issue. Anthony Davis is shooting horrifically from every zone on the floor. That's an issue. Westbrook's a turnover machine and oh, doesn't fit that well with those guys. Exactly as most of us said at the time that they acquired him. So this is very much a rod, palinka problem, not a Frank Vogel problem in terms of whose at fault, but, you know, the GM doesn't fire themselves in this league. No, they don't. But the way this schedule is shaping up, wouldn't surprise me at all to see Frank Vogel scapegoated for all this. You mentioned kind of whatever he expected. Sometimes we, in the media, we can't see the forest through the trees. We miss things that season executive C and that's why they're in those positions. But a month into the season, you're gonna tell me that buddy healed? Wouldn't have been a better fit for this team, alongside LeBron James, a month into the season, you're telling me it wouldn't have been a better idea to bring back the band that probably would have been a top seed if they had been healthy all season long last year. I probably would have gotten to the finals if AD doesn't get hurt in the first round against Phoenix, bringing that group back together. Wasn't the right thing to do? It just none of it never made sense at the time and it still doesn't make sense now. We have you and I have said how are we give the Lakers more time give them till Christmas? But they're 500 right now with the softish schedule..

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"frank vogel" Discussed on The Crossover NBA Show with Chris Mannix

The Crossover NBA Show with Chris Mannix

05:03 min | 11 months ago

"frank vogel" Discussed on The Crossover NBA Show with Chris Mannix

"A couple of months time. Yeah. It's rough. But listen, the next season is kind of hanging in the balance. The east has gotten tougher. We talked about this before the season started. I said, I thought they'd be better on paper, but worse than the standings. And that's what's happened so far. And I'm not sure that any move in the rotation is going to change that to be honest. The east has just gotten that much better. The good news is there's a lot of teams that are packed in a very tight span. You know, two game winning streak two game losing streak could have dramatic ripples on the standing. So they've got a chance, but listen, I don't know if we want to go down this path, but the bigger concern for the Knicks I think has got to be Julius Randle who's not playing like an all star anymore, certainly not playing like whatever he was. Second team all NBA, he may be the first guy to go from second to ball NBA to not making the all star team the next season the way he's playing right now. It's been a tale of two seasons for the Knicks. They opened up the year looking great. They start 5 and one or something like that and I've leveled off considerably. All right, before we get to the awards, it is now scapegoat season in Los Angeles Howard and the vultures are circling around Frank Vogel, Lakers beat the pistons on Sunday. I have a feeling that may have saved rank Vogel's job in that game. That you lose to the pistons on the back end of what's been a really rough stretch for the Lakers, think they lost like 8 out of ten or some bad number that they've had with a relatively soft schedule to start the year. I think Vogel's job might have been in jeopardy. If they lost the pistons on Sunday, but it's still I think he's still skating on very thin ice in Los Angeles. I'll be not the first, but I will eagerly say it's not Frank Vogel's fault. You know, this is like blaming the captain of the Titanic because your ship sank when it hit an iceberg the size of Delaware. Like it just, it's just not something you can put on the coach. Last year, Frank Vogel had a team with an identity. This year, the year before that, when they won a championship, he had a team with an identity. That was a tough minded defensive team with the right players to make it work. This team, I don't know what they are. They are bad defensively. They are bad offensively. They don't have enough floor spacing, the Russell Westbrook trade is not worked up until this point. Westbrook has been a turnover machine, Anthony Davis can't make a shot. How are these the coach's fault? How are these things the coaches fault? What are you going to do? Replace Frank Vogel with who, David fizdale, Phil handy, I don't know..

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"frank vogel" Discussed on The Crossover NBA Show with Chris Mannix

The Crossover NBA Show with Chris Mannix

05:14 min | 11 months ago

"frank vogel" Discussed on The Crossover NBA Show with Chris Mannix

"So that's things like unlimited vacation time, wild perks, and the wellness craze. I'm working it will separate the gird the bad and the whoo whoo. I'll be joined by fellow FT journalists who report on these stories every day. And together we'll figure out what really works. So that's working it from the Financial Times. Listen and subscribe wherever you get your podcasts. Hi, I mention Kemba Walker. That's the news of Monday. Tom thibodeau came out and told reporters that Kemba Walker is out of the rotation in New York. This has been a wild ride for Kemba Walker over the first 20 ish games of this next season. He started out playing really well at one point he was shooting like 56% from three, those numbers have cratered, and now it's Alec Burks that is the starting point guard for the Knicks in Kemba Walker for now is out of that rotation. What's your reaction to Kemba's very short honeymoon in his hometown? Brutal, just brutal. Let's talk about on a human level first because it was such a celebrated homecoming in Kemba Walker, one of the all time good guys in the league and he was so excited to come home, come home to New York and play for the Knicks. And, you know, there was there was such a poetic element to this in a very just endearing emotional aspect of that whole story. And I think everybody wanted the best. Obviously, the Nixon Kemba wanted the best, but I think all of us who, you know, love following canvas career. A good homecoming story is irresistible. And Kemba's enthusiasm for playing at the garden playing for the Knicks was just, you know, it was moving, frankly, but these homecomings often don't go as planned. So that when Stefan marbury came to the Knicks, we've seen it with other players in other places as well. Look, the risks of Kemba Walker were all known when they signed him. I mean, he'd have multiple years running of declining production and declining health..

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"frank vogel" Discussed on The Crossover NBA Show with Chris Mannix

The Crossover NBA Show with Chris Mannix

04:29 min | 11 months ago

"frank vogel" Discussed on The Crossover NBA Show with Chris Mannix

"And if that means having John wall come off the bench behind Porter junior and Jalen green when both are healthy, serve as a mentor, anchor the second unit, whatever, then that's what it's gotta be. And if he really wants to get traded, which seemingly is the goal of both him and the rockets, will then playing and being productive would certainly help. Like, I'm not in a big believer in the he has to prove himself. We know what John wall can do. He played last season. He's come back from his injury already. The league knows who John wall is or what he is capable of. The problem, the impediment is still more about the contract, 44 million now, $47 million option for next season. That's tough for anybody to take on. It's tough salary cap math to make a trade. It's just difficult. No one's trying to hold him hostage. But as long as you're there to make the best of it for all parties, it's got to be, listen, I want to play, just put me back in the rotation. Put me back on the act of roster. Let me play when needed. But you can't make it then and by the way I have to start or I have to play extra minutes. That's not a reasonable stance. No, it's not, and I'm not so sure that's what wall is looking for. Yes, he wants to start. But I think as much as anything, he wants the opportunity to earn a his want to come back to the rockets and have them say you are a backup. If he is playing better than Kevin Porter junior, he wants the opportunity to start for this team. So maybe it's semantics, but I don't think he's saying to the rockets, I am either starting or I'm not coming back. I think he's saying to the rockets, look, if I'm playing great basketball, I don't want to come off the bench. I want to be the starter now. I like to point this out. Starting overrated. What really matters in this league is who finishes, right? Like not agree. How many teams in this league stagger minutes of their stars where, yeah, we saw this with just pop it in my head, but Durant Westbrook in Oklahoma City back in their days. Like Durant would start and come off the floor like three minutes into the game. Four months of the game at times. Yeah, because you want to stagger their minutes. It matters who finishes games. And that's where John wall will have an opportunity to prove himself and play. But I'm with you..

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Lakers rally late in regulation, hold off Heat 120-117 in OT

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00:39 sec | 11 months ago

Lakers rally late in regulation, hold off Heat 120-117 in OT

"Playing without injured star lebron James the Lakers were still able to beat the heat in overtime one twenty to one seventeen coach Frank Vogel love the effort has agree firemen were on a man's you know we're learning each other I get a really good team some some would say the best in the illegal Bethany's and your guys competed Malik monk scored a Laker high twenty seven points Russell Westbrook had a twenty five point triple double and Anthony Davis netted twenty four band at a bio led Miami with twenty eight points Tyler hero came off the bench to score twenty seven mark Myers Los Angeles

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The Crossover NBA Show with Chris Mannix

51:23 min | 1 year ago

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"When the olympics start will be the most talented team in tokyo. Hands down no question. Most talented team in tokyo with the roster that they have but this is like a five alarm fire right now howard. This loss to nigeria. I don't care if they win the rest of these pre olympic games which will take place through next sunday. This has to make you nervous if you're a fan of the team because not only is it this. The loss to nigeria. But you go back two years ago at the world championships where you had a us team. That was good. Didn't have probably better team now than they were back in two thousand nineteen but all nba players. They finished seventh. They've been seventh at the world championships. You have the seventh-place finish the loss of nigeria. How concerned are you howard beck about. Usa basketball. It's just an exhibition game. Chris oh no no. It's not just an exhibition game. Stop this team was thrown together over the last however many weeks they had what like three practices. I think i'll ever. Us team is thrown together. What are you talking about. There's no team. There's no no mid season practices for usa basketball. No but the nigerian team has been practicing. What i'm saying is some of the play in the nba though wants win the nba nba. A few of them play in the nba but that team has had time together more so than the team. Sorry brown coaching. that team. That i missed was that a facsimile of mike brown on the bench all season long. What what are we talking about. The warriors have been out for like two months kris k. Okay so two months. that's what matters. That's that's the number three three practices. Also they're still missing. I believe at least three guys because they're playing in the finals right now. Booker middleton chris paul get it. Yes not chris. Ball's not playing a holiday with the the what holland is your holiday. Those those guys will matter especially given that middleton and holiday are to the better perimeter defenders that that team. Usa has and if you look at the rest of team usa's roster. I don't see a ton of great defenders. There there are a few. I think those three guys by the way are going to be exhausted by the time they get to. They may well be. They may will be so. We're going to judge them. Judging when their whole judge when the games matter to strange to me like we don't judge nba teams based on the preseason but we judge team usa based on these exhibition games. That they do going into international competition. I feel like it's thirty. One point favorites. Why why is there betting line on a freaking exhibition better training but a little league baseball. Now country degenerates damn right. I didn't mean chris i'm with. Let's go monday. Nigeria money line. I just. I can't get too excited about this. If they lose the rest of the exhibitions does that mean something. Yeah that might be alarming if they're if they're still struggling to find some cohesion. That could be alarming. But i mean the talent is obviously their talent alone doesn't win on the international stage in style of game is different team ball matters. Shooting matters like yeah. There's a bunch of budget stuff that comes into play. But i i find the panic over this loss or at least the outcry to be a little bit much. So you don't take into account the seventh-place finish in two thousand nineteen. I mean that to me. It's the it's not just as game. The totality of it right. Like and i don't know howard like so in the early two thousands the world kind of caught up to the us ninety to ninety six thousand us. Gold maps then comes the two thousand two world championships in indianapolis and that's seven. The place finish was one of the worst worst outcomes in at least recent usa history. They got it together after that. They hired jerry colangelo. They bringing mike chef ski. They get their act together. Two thousand six two thousand eight then. They run off. Three consecutive years are three consecutive cycles of gold. Medals is argon. Made that like the world's caught up again that somewhere along the way and the last four or five years. The rest of the world has once again caught up usa basketball. I'm trying to understand this. I mean that's close games in those olympics cycles. No question about it. But i can't imagine the oh eight. Twelve or sixteen team losing nigeria. I can't exhibition or otherwise. I can't see it happening. No team and the and the one that followed it were built around like lebron koby. Carmelo enjoying wait. I mean that that groups at another level like as good as this group is that we're seeing right now as talented as they are after k. D. tatum's really good damian. Lillard is great. I mean come arbit- tatum. Bill lillard auto bio levin. Draymond dream ends up there in years but one has won some things. Jeremy grant jeremy grant zach living out of like. These are guys who have done anything in the nba yet. But they're all stars most they're they're also but are they to level of lebron kobe now but do you think is that what you're saying then is that what you're saying to be at the level you need to have like i'm saying the crop to win. I'm saying that if we're going to start comparing the twenty twenty one team to the twenty eight a two thousand eight two thousand twelve teams there is. There is not an equivalent right now. Lebron kobe laurent cobaine weight. And plus what we what. We called olympic. Mellow like carmelo. Didn't have the success in the nba. That some of his teammates did but carmelo in terms of talent level and certainly has resume like that group was at a whole other level. That group is a different level than jason. Tatum bam outta bios. Zach levine. Okay so not saying that you necessarily should have to have that level of time firepower to win an exhibition game against nigeria. Or anybody else. But i am saying comparing usa to itself different iterations of team usa. This one is not that one. This is not as dominant group as the ones we saw in eight and two thousand twelve. It just isn't what do you do like. What's the solution here. Like i mean i jerry. Colangelo deserves an enormous amount of credit for rebuilding that program when it was at. Its nadir mitra chefs. He comes in enormous amount of credit for what they did. But as we sit here in twenty twenty one like it's almost to me howard like the usa basketball rebuilding. The program became cool. Like lebron wanted to do it. Chris paul like dwayne wade. These guys wanted to do it and then they did it. And i think playing for usa basketball didn't become quite as cool as it was fifteen years ago. Like is that what has to happen like does not need to have like a fifth place finish in tokyo for all of a sudden the next generation of a-list stars wherever that may be in two thousand twenty four to come back into the mix and is that the only way this team can win. I mean i think we need to pay attention to the overall context like obviously one. These olympics were supposed to happen a year ago. They're delayed a year because of covid got durant out of it though like that right. It's questionable whether these the olympic should be happening at all still but along the way because of these back to back brutal seasons and everything else like team. Usa doesn't have james harden right now. Doesn't have anthony davis because of the injury doesn't have steph curry doesn't have kyrie irving doesn't have lebron kawai again. If your argument is that the second or third tier it sounds like sounds like insulting. Somehow but if you're saying that the next wave believe after those guys should still be good enough to dominate on the world stage. Maybe but if the point is that the team as best are they still. Are they still able to win. Gold fairly easily. Your probably but a bunch of them aren't on this team right now because of injuries and just the stress of the last year or two so this this is not necessarily representative of the best of the best right now. It just isn't and yes. They should still be good enough to win. Yes the world has caught up to some extent. No the the group that at nigeria's put it put out there last week. Does not leap off the page improbably. Us should've still want it. But again i exhibition game after like three practices. Let's see what happens with the rest of this. This schedule out brought mellow back. I mean he's not what he was four years ago. Eight years ago twelve years ago but the guy knows how to play international basketball. He might have sat. maybe. I guess. I didn't really. I assume that he just want to keep. He didn't kind of like four formerly re retire from the olympics. But it'd be pretty much says like i'm done like lebron kinda did to get talked into it. I feel like. I don't know if i was if i was the usa team would try really hard to get carmelo blake because his style. Whatever it is to the nba is perfect for the national basketball. He's a really good or national basketball player. On this subject damian lillard. He spoke for the first time. Since the hiring of chauncey billips. Only listen to what little had to say about his future in portland. I'm prepared to go in and do my job every year. Like hopefully we make strides over direction and could become a better team a new coach notice. That's where i am. What soured it sounds like. Lillard is at least nominally on board with going back to the blazers. But if i'm a team out there with assets. I don't listen to that response and say well it's over damian. Lillard is back on the same page with the portland trailblazers. If i'm a team with assets i hold onto those assets because it feels to me like the blazers might be one like sixteen to start from blowing that whole thing up with louis mccollum on the way out the door so get the sense now. That seems more likely than not that damian lillard at blazers training camp. He's in ablaze uniform. He starts the season with the portland trailblazers. But if it doesn't work with chauncey billips early and you get close that trade deadline. It wouldn't surprise me at all to see portland decide. Look we've got a. We've got to do something here and opened the door for damian lillard trade. What do you think. I think that nothing has changed. I think that his remarks last week because he sounded a little bit lukewarm. Or just you know you hear one of two things. Well you want to hear one thing if you're a portland trail blazers fan or if you're just looking for any indication that lillard is all in your you want to hear him say listen. I know things are rough right now. But i'm all in you know this is. This is where. I want to be you to repeat all the usual talking points that you hear from players in his position and that we've heard from bradley beal that we used to hear from james harden houston. Which is a win in phil in city fill in the blank with the city. I want to win here. I don't wanna go somewhere else. You know we're going to get this right blah blah. He didn't go down the usual list. And so i think it left open. Some interpretation but getting has changed like the disappointment was clear when the season ended. Some of the things have happened since including obviously the the the train wreck away they went about the the coaching search and lillard. Being caught in the crossfire. There at feeling heat from fans about chauncey billips being selected and so. I don't think we should expect he's going to be rah. Rah right now The trailblazers have a lot of work to do. But we also have not even hit the summer yet. Like there's the draft hasn't happened yet. Free agency hasn't happened yet. There's there's a lot of work to be done. And i think if you're damian lillard which you're probably doing is internally saying here's what i need to see happen externally saying you know what let's let's wait and see i mean you see. He can't he can't say publicly the same things that he's telling say neal o'shea right about what the the state of the roster i i would think that there are some very impassioned debates or discussions being held behind closed doors about what they need to get this thing right and if they can't get it right the he might shift is his stance about staying there long term. But that hasn't happened yet that we know of. What do you think the most interesting potential conversation is amongst players over these next four weeks like i'm kind of curious what jason tatum bradley beal talk about. Tatum and beal close friends dating back to their highschool days both went to the same high school bill with something of a mentor to jason. Tatum actually got him involved with his trainer. Drew hanlin which helped. Tatum elevate his his personal skills and they've talked about how happy they are to be playing together. Played the all star game together for the first time beal last year of his contract. Like you know we've seen these conversations yield real tangible conversation. You'd like to be a fly on the wall on for any of these guys in the next couple of weeks. Yeah i mean look we. We have a history now going back over a decade. If we're to believe that the that the heels were formed in part through team usa activities. You know which is true which is true. That's that's yielded an extra things guy. You know guys who you mentioned. Tatum and bill because they were already friends but guys also become friends through this experience right and then they start getting the ideas about playing together. Like oh hey. This is a lot of fun. Let's do this again in the nba. So there's i'm i'm sure some of that is is happening. It always does. Who else in that group. I mean man. If any of these guys that'd be trying to recruit bam out a bio but he's too early in his in his contract with miami to pry him loose from there And you know the heater still a pretty potent team but you know jimmy butler is up there in miles and outta bios future won't necessarily be there forever. That's the way it goes in the nba. I think tatum has the potential to be like the biggest recruiter. They're like he's about to start the first year of his max level extension. He can recruit bill. But like you can also does damian lillard like. It's great to play in boston. I love it here. Answer some questions of my have a playing on the east coast for the first time. Like i think data might be boston's best asset at this point. Yeah again some of this comes down to bradley. Beal's coming up to that point where he has the leverage to task out because of his contract lillard under contract for several more years and so he's not in that position. So what if it says. Like i need to go like. I don't foresee the blazers being no finish your contract. Just don't see it. i think right. And they would work with him on a deal to sure but directing it is harder so beal can use the leverage of his free agency to say well if you send me to team x. I'm not gonna resign there. Which then blows up that deal and he can direct himself to the team he really wants to be at lillard would have a harder time to doing that. Because he doesn't have free agency looming two to play that card. Yeah well i encourage any reporter. That's in tokyo tatum. Beal and lillard talking to each other. Just take a picture and then let the internet go wild crazy because it will unquestionably last thing for you. Howard the breaking news. This week in the coaching ranks. Is that jamal moseley is headed to orlando moseley of course last with dallas. A really well respected assistant coach there. Who was a candidate for that. Maverick job before. It went to jason kidd my immediate reaction to that higher howard beyond i think being an excellent choice for orlando is that we're gonna look at at moseley and jason kidd on parallel tracks. The next couple of years moseley. There was a strong case to be made that he should have been elevated to that head. Coaching job he'd been considered for other head coaching jobs. Before most recently in new york he had by all accounts a great relationship with luka doncic i understand bringing kit in he's got a history with dallas and as riccar lau said publicly having a player that played the game like kid and having a player that plays the game like don-shik make some sense to pair those two guys together. But there's always going to be as i watched these two situations unfold. I'm gonna wonder you know. Did the mavericks make the right choice. Leading jamaa moseley go and bringing jason kidd in and there's so many variables in this the first being at orlando's in step one or maybe even steps zero of a massive rebuild right there in the negatives right now. I think there's still maybe more fat to trim on that roster before they really bottom out. Yeah and you know you talk about trying to build around. You know markelle foltz. And and jonathan isaac jonathan isaac for so long. They're getting hurt and he's a great player but they've loved writing in a weird way john stays healthy. He's still more of a complementary store right like he's he's a potentially defensive player of the year at some point. He's not a guy who you're building an offense around though and marquel foltz okay. He he got himself back on track in orlando. He has a career now where he didn't have one but he's not a foundational building block. Come on like that's crazy so the roster doesn't have much talent jamal. Moseley's is coming into a situation. Which a lot of first time head coach is committed to which is all right. There's a lot of work to do so You're gonna have to do a lot of development. You're going to have to take a lotta lumps in the win loss column. It's gonna be rough going for the first year or two or maybe three. Let's see how they can get things going. But you know as it has been a certain other like kenny. Atkinson came to look a completely hopeless situation in brooklyn but was known as development coach in atlanta. And sure enough. Everybody who went there. Joe harris spencer. Dinwiddie jared allen versus lower. First round picks. Guys who were you know whether they were reclamation projects whether they were low picks everybody seems to get better the second they went to brooklyn and play kenny atkinson and his staff congenial. Moseley have the kind of effect in orlando can the front office. Get him to kind of guys. That will thrive in that in that kind of environment and carve out careers from cells and carbon identities. Jamal moseley has a lot going for him. And we've heard like many great things about it but we often hear great things about assistant coaches who don't end up panning out so i always. We have to caution ourselves on these things. Because i thought. Brian shaw was gonna be a great head coach and he was. Everybody loved him all the players sung as praises when he was associate head coach under frank. Vogel indiana he goes to denver probably just the wrong guy at the wrong time but he hasn't had another shot since then but that went really badly. Brett brown was really great in in some respects for the for the early years of the process and then suddenly. It seemed like they'd hit some sort of ceiling. Eager kokoschka of had been talked about for years is a great assistant. Coach didn't work out. Swells head coach in phoenix. David dale bumpy ride in memphis and then disastrous in new york. We just don't know like luke walton. Another example like there are plenty of coaches who as their when their assistance. We hear and see the best of them and then you know some of them be go on it and have great success coaches. I mean tyler has been fantastic. Mike malone has been fantastic money williams. Nick nurse dwayne casey a lotta longtime assistance. Get their shot and then you know it. It works out in a dozen. It's all contextual. It's all just the opportunity you have the thing for dallas is. They went with a guy who has experienced jason kit. That experience was not necessarily good experience. Like i think most people around the would look at what he did in milwaukee in brooklyn and say. I'm going to steer clear. Maybe you'd rather have the the unproven. Jamal moseley versus the somewhat proven jason kidd but. I don't think we'll know what the right choice was there for a while yet. Because it's it's gonna take some time before we can evaluate moseley as head coach. I maybe jason kidd learned something in two years as an assistant. I mean that happens. You know working with lebron for entire for two entire seasons working under frank vogel maybe picked up some things that'll be useful to him as a head coach. Moseley to me. The key is giving him time. Like you've got to be committed to moseley for a minimum. I think of three years and more likely five years. And then you see what you have in head coach. You mentioned gore. I mean it's worked out for phoenix. Absolutely but i do think he got hosed out there i mean he only had one year on the job and that year was without deandra aiden chris. Paul had devon booker of course but that was not a good team that he was coaching. There i gotta get moses the because you want to see what the guy can do when you put that team in a position to win a great example to me is james breglio in charlotte. I mean berea. Was one of those guys assistant coach elevated to head coaching position in charlotte. Not great first couple of years there but when he was given players and chance to win he did pretty well. I mean up until lamelo ball went out the horns were really good team and i think they will be a good team. Going forward in part because of the borrego is a pretty good coach. I want to see this magic team. Invest heavily in jamal. The you're the guy developed these guys and we'll keep you around no matter what the won loss record says until you get a chance to win then you judge like brett brown six or seven days since brett brown left but i can see the for letting go of brett brown. I mean they had a talented team and to a degree the underachieved. But you've got to let the coach get a roster on that level before you really make any decisions about whether they can coach. Yeah well and that's the thing about. This is what set up says apart. I think the good organizations from the bad ones is that you you decide when you choose a guy. Especially if he's a longtime assistant not a guy with head coaching experience. And you've said we believe in this guy. This is somebody who's got a great trekker record as an assistant. We're going to first opportunity. It's your obligation to when you say investment. Yeah it's time investment. It's a give them all the tools to succeed. Give him the time to succeed. You've decided you believe in him. So stand behind that have the conviction to stand behind that and take some bumps along the way you know maybe maybe memphis and or the knicks should have stuck with david physed longer. You know we had heard nothing but great things about fiscal coming out of miami. Initially we may yet you know. Find out that he. He can be great head coach in the right situation. Maybe those worth rights situations. He might be one of those guys though. I love physios and assist one of those guys. Though the just the temperament is always important. Like the government like memphis yet. Some battles with market assault didn't work out your plus new york. You just might be one of those guys that doesn't have the right temperament to be is based on what we've seen a memphis in new york might be better suited for these ranks but if he succeeds in l. a. I think he'll get another chance right. Maybe i think the point being though that if you as an organization have identified a guy instead he we believe in him then. Okay then believe in him. Stick with them and make sure you've given them enough tools to succeed Is it a pulling the plug at the first sign of of struggle and that's what happens in the nba. too often. is that seems panic. You know the fans turn. There's some minor flare up. Oh the coach and player got into it. Whatever it may good teams that can happen on as well. And it's it's just. It's the way franchises. React so you have to know whether or not the guy is is is right and then stick with them. And so yeah. Let's jomo's should get a nice long here. She got a ton of latitude in orlando given where they are as an organization given the state of that roster. Yeah i agree. Howard enjoy milwaukee looking forward to hearing the conversation with the lazarus on friday. You can check podcast. Right here on the crossover feet again. Make sure you listen to howard's interview. Spencer dinwiddie from last week. It was really really strong. Enjoy -joy the mid west our. We'll talk when you're back on the northeast always a pleasure. My friend the newest player in the pre nba basketball landscape is overtime. Elite elite will begin playing sometime in the fall. And we'll be headlined by some of the top now. Former high school players in the country players would be paid minimum one hundred thousand dollars with some making north of that and have access to high level facilities training as well as educational programs to help. Get a better grasp on that. I'm joined by brandon williams the head of basketball operations for overtime. Elite and kevin ollie the former. Nba guard uconn. Coach was the head coach and director of player development bread. And i want to start here with you. Just kind of give me the ten thousand foot view overtime elite. What are the objectives. What what what was behind the formation of this league. I think any of us. Chris who've been around for a long time i've actually seen Sort of the downside of young players who entered into professional ranks to this point. It's been the nba Who are not ready. And so what does that mean you know not not ready to form and be stars or is it just not ready to be great teammates or is it not ready to be good partners. is sort of all that you know the idea that the work day is much longer than they know. And that there's more responsibility to be in a professional athlete The responsibilities to families and communities we just have to do a better job preparing them and here was an opportunity to be part of a program that wanted to address all that. It's not just about being a good player. It's like we wanna address the whole athlete. Hope so on. Three levels were hitting basketball. Easiest thing understand. I think businesses in our world is education And then there's brand you know. These young people now are moving at a speed that we aren't as older folks and they want to build things An earlier age particularly off the court so building a brand is important something that can last well beyond their tread on tire so we're hitting it in basketball business brand. That's that's that's really thirty thousand foot view. Kevin what attracted you to this job. Just like his dad is the whole person being able coach them from a mind body and soul Experience and understanding the mindfulness athlete I've seen it from a pro level. Got up tune into play thirteen years with twelve different teams so i understand like the different trials and tribulations you go through with a player not saying that these players are gonna go through that but is getting them more prepared if they do come into some certain situations where it's not typically going the right way. How can they manage that situation. So what they do today can echo into tomorrow and having the ability to kana paint on a black blank. Canvas is what a really attracted to me to to this you know. Ot league program we can take the player really shape the curriculum you not with teaching them about subjects. But we're really teaching them about themselves as well from media training From mental health issues. All the different things that come involved because we all know chris is stress. You know from success is a lot of pressures is a lot of people pulling at you. It's a lot of people won't certain things. But how do you deal with that from a player's standpoint where you can play when you get on the basketball court and half clear and not be caught up in the distractions of off the court issues. Um as desks desks were really kind of vocal. Spirit to give back in it and how these kids you know. Have these players be available at the moment of truth to make the right decisions and that was very important to me. Kevin as you mentioned you played in the nba brand. You played in the nba. As well i wanna ask both of you guys and kevin. I'll start with you like if this was available to you as sixteen. seventeen year. Old looking back. Would you have founded attractive with a definitely founded attractive You know i kind of thought the box anyway. I was from chris. Shaw from from from south central and i chose connecticut. So you places that. I didn't even know nothing about growing up. You always thought out the box and never wanted to go down a path that everybody was going down So i was always curious. And i think that's how my mom especially my mom. My dad raised me. So i definitely been curious of this situation. No no speaking now without you know took it. I'm not sure. But i think it really gave me another option to look at it and this is what we're trying to do not saying that the ncaa is wrong overtime. Leaders wrong or right. It's not about that. It's about if you really care about the student. Athletes you give them as much options as possible. And i think this gives the lee student athlete. Another option and i think you know it's a very Great option for them to have and if they choose overtime league we're going to give our whole heart to make sure they're developed on and off the basketball court chris i- jumping after coach It would have been interesting. Chris but i certainly would not have been a candidate i would. Let's just get that right. What what things that's important. We sit down going through just grassroots community and we spent months just talking to people educating about. You know what we're about who we are. Each of us has a reputation in some other space. Not here The this program isn't for everybody is not the right fit for everybody. We are cherry picking and a lot of ways. These are players that feel like they are destined for professional basketball. There are a lot of sixteen year olds. That don't know that yet and their parents aren't convinced that yet in people that support them. Don't don't feel that confidence yet. They may be another year away or two years away but this is not. This is not the right path for everyone. Twenty four athletes roughly twelve per class. We're looking at juniors and seniors and the truth is at this age. What was really funny about scouting them is everybody's skinny and like a lanky and underdeveloped and still has like a mountain of upside to you know to to get through before you can really see who they're going to be but you know if you have a young player like brand williams who's just dreaming of being an nba player but does not much certainty. That's even realistic We gotta be very careful about this approach In taking because there there are risks but for those that that have already established in this deke. They've established a day of separated from their class. You know jaylen. Lewis has an example the most recent example. He's he's he's elevated in separate. The draft isn't tomorrow though so there's still a lot of work to do but he's already in front running physician and it gives everyone low confidence that this is the kind of investment and the kind of pet that would make a ton of sense for players like that. Let me follow up on that brandon. Because you're you're entering. What suddenly become a fairly crowded space in terms of leagues like this. You know the g. league ignite is one season in but they've had a measure of success. We've seen jalen green probably a top pick. Jonathan kamenga top five or six. Then you have the ncw with this. Recent ruling allowing top players to make money off their name image and likeness. How does how does the elite separate itself from that group. Why think i is. We start a little bit sooner so the g. league zone a great job with what we call it a year the prep year that year. That a recent graduates would be going to college and they've already been hacking the system you know going to italy or china So so there's a market for those players and we want an alternative to college for for for us though. Our players are seeking an alternative to high school so we are a school but we think about the resources that were bringing to the table first of which being an nba like environment You know start coach. Ali coach lehto in a robust set of staff. I mean scouting staff a high performance staff administrative team. Our goal was to simulate an nba organization for for young athletes at sixteen seventeen eighteen. Th there there is no other environment. Like that. And i think the big way that we separate with high school athletes Is that both domestically and internationally. We're able to put twenty four of them together in a building. So what we're selling is the best competition for these guys starts at home. I mean every day in line coaches don't minister drills administer competition aspects of practice and getting ready for games but when you look to the right and left and i noticed as a player. There's no weak link. I mean everywhere you look. There's somebody that's doing what you're doing and possibly doing more. Because they they are not just dreamed about the into the league or to the high level. They're on their way there That's where we've been able to. I think create a little separation from others that have tried or looked at something. Like this kevin. How do you approach this job. Do you do it in a similar mindset and you had at uconn where you have young players you also you know yukon. You had to keep them academically eligible you to follow that pretty closely. I mean is there is it a similar mindset or do you take a different tact. I think you just let it be you know. Similar is not. It's just whatever comes you say yes to it and you cultivate hope from it I never coached high school players. They was always you know graduated from high school. And now they're freshman's This situation is a little different in in was recruiting for two to three years. This situation is a little different. But you know from me. Chris i love the unknown about it. And that's the space i live in. Not just wanna make sure that. I have the space incorporate something in these players that they can just think about it can build from a have a foundation so when they make the transition they have every tool in the toolbox to say okay. Oh that's a problem Assess it let me be able to correct it. Let me obsessed. Let me be aware of it and i think that's the difference between you know coaching a high school kid in in the college. Kid i mean you get able to mold them a little bit better and then you have to understand where they at. Now you know back then. I didn't have social media. We didn't have social media now. These kids these players are building their brand a little bit earlier and now you just meet them where they are. And i can't wait to get them up on campus get them up until atlanta just continue to build a great relationship. Welcome spend time with the one on one in. This situation is going to provide us to do a lot more skill development that i didn't have a really good opportunity and it had not one say good opportunity. I didn't have the best opportunity. Because there's so many things we own a row recruiting You own a row fundraising these different things. Brandon's taken care of in. Dan porter is taken care of. I can just really coach the player and work on his skill development on and off the basketball court. So it's really given me my own lane. So i can really perform my job. Mama job is really breaking down and relationships it starts. Relationship is start with trust. Stars will hold is spending time with the the young student athletes on and off the basketball court and pushed them to greatness and the competition is not on. our side of competition is with him. You know can you beat your previous best bestself. Can you be better than today you know. Can you be better tomorrow than you were date. And that's what i'm coaching. And that's what i love to do. And i think we're going to have some great young man as open as biden has going to be vulnerable going to try to reach for the sky. In the sky is going to be ob- you is not going to be limits. I can't wait to get up to atlanta. We've been having some many camps. Chris has been wonderful to get back on the court with the guys. And i'm looking forward to the next mini camp and dan looking forward to getting them up to atlanta. So we really can go to work. You know when. I was was talking to brian. shaw a couple of months ago. Kevin about how he was coaching. The ignite you know it was a lot of pro stop. He was trying to bring to that team. Are you taking that same. Approach you trying to coach them like their nba players or something different. No it's nothing different is just. I'm building pro. Habits in every situation is going to be different. Chris this is going to be some guys. Come in you know. Say for instance like a. John montero will we got him and he you know is a little bit more advanced than some other players because he's been a pro- already and then it's going to be another situation where we gotta talented guy might not be able to get quick but these opportunities we can go at our own pace we can sit down and talk to them but we're really teaching and building pro habits and those habits is going to translate over to them being great pros when that opportunity come invest in the nba are the euro league so every day you know we are building like a practice plan like more of a college practice plan nba practice bandwidth doing drills. That i got from my numerous stops in the nba. You know we're doing sets in the nba. Then we gotta understand that sixteen years old as well you know and maybe sometimes you gotta you know kinda doubt it down a little bit. But i'm gonna let com. I'm going to let that go. i'm not going to focus on one of it. I'm not gonna say oh. We're doing this process. Each and every day every day is different. And that's what i love about the unknown. And i'm gonna treat it like that and we just gonna continue to bill because i think we got great mas and organization that really want to coach the whole person. And that's what i'm really excited about. You decided to upgrade your outdoor deck. So you ordered the essentials. Power washer said a patio chairs and a shiny new grill. And you use your bank of america. Customized cash rewards credit card choosing to earn three percent cashback online shopping and up to five point. 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Divers inventors patent and unleash economic opportunity. Find out at invent together dot org learn more and take action today brandon not to continue to compare this team to the ignite but when i talked to sharieff abderrahim about that i mean. I had asked him about the sustainability of that team. Given how much. Money was being poured in to pay some of the players. And he bobbed and weaved floyd mayweather trying to answer that question. Because it's it's hard to commit to it without say a television contract more sponsorships and things like that when you can you speak to kind of the sustainability of this because we've seen startups with an influx of cash. Get get in big the first year. But then peter out. I mean what needs to happen. Four overtime elite to become a long term successful program while has got to answers. I think you know a concept. I mean we're we're selling on the ability to develop young players and have a more more pro ready right. So this is. This is the path we are offering basketball development. Call it professional Business development And we are also like leveraging. What is an incredible media platform that again. The things that we like to call a distinguishing factors. That's a huge one. So not to bob and weave one. We gotta be good ass. You know that. That's how have long deputy spurs the spurs. They were good for really long time. And so we've got the that there were good at this note. No pressure on kale right The the the second piece though is you know and this comes from my my time in the nba. It just wasn't that long ago where it out of chicago. Pre-draft combine interview. If i said. I wanna build my brand. Everybody in the room was like smirking and like you know what. What are we talking about like. It's about basketball basketball basketball And you know if you are young team developing and not winning a lot of games truth is you can't sell just basketball because your basketball isn't great you got to sell personalities and stories in that there's something that people can invest in in fall in love with other than like the final score like otherwise. The sixers had no chance right any any development team yet to buy into a story and for us. I think we have a chance to create stories but we get a chance to show those stories because we have a platform. So it's it doesn't take much. I mean i'm not a social media guru. But when i got recruited for this job haven't been around the block a little bit certainly from an nba perspective. I heard a couple of things. I really got my attention. One was fifty million followers That's eyeballs and we all know that that Business follows the eyeballs in whatever in whatever respect. The other was which is unfair. Because i think that number changes month over month but it started at one point four and not set maybe one point eight or one point nine billion with a b. billion views of content a month that overtime in some ways has found a way to the heart. The mind of young people It is being communicated and solid as you know the generation z. sort media and content engine We are doing an amazing thing here which is developing young talent in a pure way that we want to make sure that they are prepared. Top to bottom to do well on the court to do well and communities to do well in business but then there's this other thing which is they want to be known like. No player wants to play in an empty building. Everybody wants to play where it matters. They wanna play. When nick can rock and like the building and just like recognizing their talent. We're just artists. And one thing that is kind of showcase. By one event that that overtime overtime the media company producing s called. You see it on youtube to. Is that over. Hundred million people watched that. I mean that that's not an insignificant number that players that are going to play overtime. Lee will have the opportunity to be known The the opportunity of bring brick big brands to the table and support this platform If not already indicated by the kinds of investors that that have shown interest but the brands that are coming to the table our sustainability is going to be showing value delivering value to not just the athletes but to overtime visibility. I would imagine great for them but can you monetize it. Can you make it so this league is in the black or does it need to be in the black every year. Well my the good news is as a basketball man. No different than a different than the is Get a budget. My job is to be fishing and and spend wisely. I i'm not. I'm not asked to sell tickets or generate revenue that's for a tremendous And in successful a business operations Our job is to make sure that what we are delivering is high is a high level product That you see the growth and development of our young players. What's there recruited. We gotta make them better. They need to be able to perform and probably the best testament of our success is going to be our nba. Gm voting with this pick right but with a coach saying like they did a nice job. This guy was. Well coached testament to takeo and the rest of the coaching staff. That if we're doing that will prove successful. Because guess what the next crop of recruits when we're in the gym like we're not chasing them. There's sort of meeting us at at minimum half way. We need to keep bringing high level taliban and developing talent to prove successful and i have a tremendous set of partners across academics and across content media. That will will do their part to elevate our business. Can you expecting to tap into some of your. nba relationships. I mean as you mentioned thirteen teams in twelve seasons. You've made a lot of friends over the years. We're going to see like san preston sitting in the crowd for your practices as a whole so sam and so many gyms that i know you know Kevin durant and all these guys are destinies in overtime. Just having them be around. We had our first minicamp. Ray allen showed up and not only showed up. He brought his son to work out with guys. Just it was just amazing. does just see how the branches that we can continue to pull up on and they continue to pull on us and be a partnership in. This thing is going to be great. Are you expecting to have kind of drop ins. Durant's involved with the league. You expecting these guys. Just be around. Which i would imagine would be both a resource for you but also an attractive quality to this league definitely. Definitely we going to build a place where it's going to be hopefully a development premier development destination for everybody and you know hopefully katie can come out and work out with guys and russell westbrook and james harden and all these guys that we know and i know i had opportunity to be evolved. Then it's kinda beat a veteran guys We want them to be around. Because it's not. Just me sean. It's also watching tape like these are the different drills and look how k. d. and look how chris paul is using the pick and rolls and now they're showing up that's a that's a big big bang for us with us growing these young talented student athletes To get them inspired to the next level and they're doing a great job done only gonna do. I coached him. Chris a coach me on a day to day basis. I'm open to that and we just really want to have a love affair with guys and and the end of the day chris. We want appease the basketball guys. We wanna play the right way. We want to share a basketball. We wanna run. We wanna have fun. We want how to join the game but it can't just be me me me. It has to be weak. And i'm wanting to teach guys how to be involved in any system they get drafted about. They can be a part of a productive system and be a productive partner in in the community as well no matter what city they when they arrive to the nba brandon. Before let you go. What schedule gonna look like i mean is this team playing. Just walk me through kind of what these kids are getting into. And what kind of schedule you gonna be able to put together so schedule that that is really interesting for everybody. And i wanna try to illuminate. But i've got to be careful we are still contracting with some teams But for the audience the think about it in buckets. We're gonna play independent prep schools. That's going to be a significant part of our schedule. We are a high school so we are looking to schedule. Some of the top independence that you would typically no to have a national schedule can travel that have the ability to be mobile. We're scheduling home and away with with With those folks and it looks like net set as an example It looks like you know. Folks that are playing for a national title Arizona florida california. So it'll be a widespread travel schedule for us. We're also looking at European competition so think about junior euroleague as an example. Some of the best clubs the Insects as an example Where we can get a collection of sixteen to nineteen year old elite talent to compete against us. And then as i mentioned earlier on the show we really feel like the best competition is gonna come internally and that's where our league play Comes into effect so we are looking at our group of twenty four as three teams of eight. There will be standings you'll be able to track will compete against each other. That'll be a significant part of our schedule as well. We don't want to overstep our guys one of the things. We really wanna correct leading science. Guide us here. is is minimized the wear and tear. Nobody's while still developing and preparing for a professional level place so a schedule of maybe thirty five. To forty games is our target. We started september Training camp will will begin Play by mid august. We'll be done by by Late march is how we see our schedule shaping up i'm looking forward to it brennan kevin. It's a really interesting concept and hope you guys have a lot of success with an. I'll certainly be watching a lot of. Nba people will be watching but brandon. Stay out of a set of massachusetts. Kevin has like some basketball. Ptsd from all those bc. Matchups i'm sure would probably were so tough. I don't remember kevin. It's not real like talk about it. But lita past. We'd be six thousand. That's not very nice. That's hovering kevin brand. Thanks for joining me. I appreciate it all right. Thank you chris. Thanks so much.

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Lakers vs Suns: Davis, Schroder and Drummond Shine

The Herd with Colin Cowherd

00:55 sec | 1 year ago

Lakers vs Suns: Davis, Schroder and Drummond Shine

"Great laker suns game. It was chris. Paul by the way only played twenty three minutes and the lakers had do hang on for the win. If i'm frank vogel. This morning lakers coach. He's been in a lot of these playoff series. I had a restless restless night's sleep. So anthony davis was not only fantastic but super aggressive. He know us play like that. Dennis schreuder may have played his best game as a laker. Certainly as best playoff game. It's not even close okay. He was great last night. Andre drummond was super effective and lebron played well and we held on to beat phoenix in trouble in the fourth and chris. Paul wasn't around the end. And i'm not sure chris balls got more than fifty percent of a right now

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Lakers vs Suns: Schroder and Drummond Shine, But What's With Chris Paul's Shoulder?

The Herd with Colin Cowherd

01:00 min | 1 year ago

Lakers vs Suns: Schroder and Drummond Shine, But What's With Chris Paul's Shoulder?

"I don't know this is not a good night for the clippers but that was a great great laker suns game. It was chris. Paul by the way only played twenty three minutes and the lakers had do hang on for the win. If i'm frank vogel. This morning lakers coach. He's been in a lot of these playoff series. I had a restless restless night's sleep. So anthony davis was not only fantastic but super aggressive. He know us play like that. Dennis schreuder may have played his best game as a laker. Certainly as best playoff game. It's not even close okay. He was great last night. Andre drummond was super effective and lebron played well and we held on to beat phoenix in trouble in the fourth and chris. Paul wasn't around the end. And i'm not sure chris balls got more than fifty percent of a right now

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Is Lebron's Ankle Injured Following the Lakers Win?

Lakers Nation Podcast

00:50 sec | 1 year ago

Is Lebron's Ankle Injured Following the Lakers Win?

"We having a liberal a LeBron James update from Vogel in his postgame conference says of LeBron and his ankle. He's good to go. There are no issues with his right ankle Great. You go. That's so that that there you go, there's great news for the Lakers and LeBron just good to go. Like we said, you know there was that. I think it was one of those situations where for a moment, Braun went. Oh no, right. Right. You know, he probably used a four-letter word, right? Instead of saying, oh no, but he was probably a little bit worried for a split second and then he realized, okay, I'm good. You know, if you've turned your ankle before if you've been out there on the court and you've done that, you know, when you kind of do it a little bit and you're worried for a split second and then you realize. Okay, I'm actually I'm good. I think that's wrong with LeBron and Frank Vogel confirms. He's good to go. So that's great.

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Lakers Fall to Knicks as Turnover Problems Persist

Lakers Nation Podcast

01:22 min | 1 year ago

Lakers Fall to Knicks as Turnover Problems Persist

"My goodness they put on a passage clinic tonight in how not to throw a post-entry pass. They threw the ball everywhere but where it needed to go in that was sure frustrating. Yeah, and you know the Knicks they are they are incredible defensive team actually and you know, it's kind of it's it's nice to see Julius Randle playing so well off the same time. You don't like to see him. Obviously, you know, this was the Julius Randle Revenge game. We had kind of made reference to that in a really kind of turned into that. But yeah, as far as the big man Montrezl Harrell Draymond Green were effectively almost neutered and I I mean, I texted one point Rez looked like he was getting abused by Taj Gibson, you know, and you know, they were they just thought I'd like to you know, one point in me if the games to Lance was doing commentary. I don't know if you got that version, but I wouldn't like to see if the Lakers went really small to counteract the what they were doing on the interior, but then right after school and said that actually Frank Vogel decided to bring Casal and so for mantra so they went the the other route blood no matter what we looking at the page. Whole game I'm I personally I know a lot of people might be upset. But I personally am giving the Lakers actually a pass on this one and

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Los Angeles Lakers Defeat Toronto Raptors

Lakers Nation Podcast

01:56 min | 1 year ago

Los Angeles Lakers Defeat Toronto Raptors

"Is the Lakers Nation live postgame show in your Lakers just picked up a much-needed win against the Toronto Raptors dominant performance. The three pointers finally start to fall in love to see that the game got a little bit Scrappy we're going to talk about what happened there dentist router what's going on some, you know a little bit of a confrontation with Coach Frank Vogel all kinds of stuff to dive into tonight joining me is Matt Peralta from lakersnation.com Matt, so nice to be able to come out here and talk about a win especially given the the current situation. The Lakers are in in the Stanley Cup. Yeah, I'm happy we need wins right now. We we need to take them. However, we get them Toronto was one of the games I scheduled that was scheduled. I was like, oh the Lakers should probably win this one especially since they're so short-handed that came out and did just that so, you know, I feel pretty good that we're treading water and that's all you know. I said going into this game that just like the game against the Sacramento Kings because this was a winnable game that inherently makes it a must begin because frankly the Lakers are going to have games where they just don't have the Firepower to keep up with some of these other teams. For example, we saw that against the Clippers the other day but tonight being a winnable game. They had to come out approach it as a must-win and I feel like they did the energy on both ends of the floor the execution and was on a different level and that was so great to see to see them step up coming off that loss to the Clippers. I was really pleased with what we saw will get into all the different players because there were so many guys tonight. Like I'm already having trouble. Yeah figuring out who the next man up award is going to go to and not because like on Sunday, we're there just wage. Many options tonight there were two there's too many options. There's so many guys we could give this to Yeah, you you heard the the players talk after the blowout loss of the Clippers that they needed emphasized ball movement and mad movement. I think you saw a lot of that in the first half especially the first quarter where they just decided to blow the doors off the Raptors by shooting. Well from Beyond The Arc it was really impressive to see if

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Los Angeles Lakers Scorched By Miami Heat

Lakers Nation Podcast

02:27 min | 1 year ago

Los Angeles Lakers Scorched By Miami Heat

"Lakers do lose to the Miami Heat. Oh Alex Caruso had a chance to tie it up at the buzzer, but misses the shot was not an easy shot by came up just short gruesome misses and the Lakers do fall to the Miami Heat LeBron. James had a bit off of an off night and we have to remember of course Dennis Shooters still out and not going to miss two more games. They are really struggling to get offense going without him. And of course Anthony Davis out as well and he'll be out for at least the next four weeks or so, which will take him out all the way through a little bit past the old star breaks up the Lakers clearly struggling clearly undermanned and we got a lot to talk about because there's some rumors popping up about what the Lakers might do about it and some people that they dead Try to bring in so a lot to break down joining me tonight. We've got Chris the Masterpiece Masters Chris. How you doing, man? I'm okay disappointing disappointing loss. It was it was a weird game. I know we're going to get into all of it. But you know, there's the world we live in when you don't have off Anthony Davis and then to a compound things you don't have demonstrated or who plays a big role for our team. So 12 plus tonight. Yeah, let's get on here. I think that the schruder think really is it's a big deal. It really is. It's a big deal to not have him out there because of what he brings in terms of the skill set his ability to get into the paint his ability to run the offense. You can just see it when LeBron is not on the floor. I mean, you're you're you're hanging on the edge of the cliff and you're just praying that your drink it doesn't give out and you just tumble over the edge. That's what they're doing right now when LeBron's not on the floor, it's like it's like Frank Vogel is just constantly watching the clock one. Can I put it back in yet? Can I put them back in yet? Because any minute that LeBron is not on the floor the Lakers offense looks dead. Lately lost because they don't have anybody that can really be a threat off the dribble. They can get into the paint and do anything from there. And and so it's a bit of a mess. They're just trying to hold on for dear life reminds me a little of the Lakers bench Squad last year except right now. You don't have Anthony Davis to help claw you back into games either. So it's that's certainly a challenge and Dennis Schroder is going to miss two thousand more games. No, he did test negative for covid-19 will do to contact tracing he is out for two more games. So this is going to be a couple more games where the Lakers have to grind it out without some really key pieces here.

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Los Angeles Lakers go in short-handed and fall to the Brooklyn Nets

Lakers Nation Podcast

05:44 min | 1 year ago

Los Angeles Lakers go in short-handed and fall to the Brooklyn Nets

"Lakers dropped the game to the Nets got blown out was not pretty wind up losing this one. It was 109 2098. Ouch out not good. We're going to break down exactly what happened and put a little bit of context into it. What does this mean for the Lakers moving forward now that you've lost this was a game that a lot of people look forward to a lot of people had this game marked on their calendars did the Lakers maybe not and there's a lot of different things for us to to get into here the team didn't play. Well, there's no question and we'll talk a little bit about that. But I think where we need to start is that the Lakers were down two starters and yes, it's fair to mention that the Nets were also Down Kevin Durant. That's a giant loss. The Lakers were down Anthony Davis age. A giant loss. They were also down Dennis Schroder and I thought that was a bigger loss than he would be on most nights because the Nets defense is so poor. I think schruder would have had a very good game tonight. Just living in the paint getting to the rim creating Havoc. He would have made a difference out there for the Lakers certainly, but unfortunately was not able to go do to contact tracing with all the cobit stuff going on. So, you know, that was that was definitely unfortunate. We certainly didn't get the kind of finals preview matchup that people have been thinking we would get from this game because you're missing those star players. I don't think we got a very good representation of who the Lakers are as a team. I also don't think we got a great representation of who the Nets are because they're so different with Kevin Durant, but we did find out that the Nets love to shoot lots and lots of threes and make a lot of them tonight. Let's finish the game shooting just 46% from 3, but that doesn't tell the whole story. They were 50% or better for almost the entire game. It was until the end that they dropped off doing a great job generating open Thurs. And the Lakers Defenders were struggling to get out there and get a hand up and they were knocking them down. Joe Harris ridiculous 647 from 3 for 21 points. I said, this is a pregame video game. But one thing that they couldn't do was allow another guy to get going if Kyrie gets his points if James Harden gets his points you're going to live with that you're going to try to make life as difficult as you can on them, but you can't allow another guide to get going in and this game Joe Harris certainly did again dropping 21 points and then you gave up 15 to Timothy Loma Carrboro 2015 points to TLC not great. They're from the Lakers side of things LeBron. James had to pretty much do everything 32.8 board 7 assists 33 minutes glad that he only played 33 minutes. No reason for you to burn him out in this game when it was clearly won. The Nets were going to win especially once they got into the second half LeBron 146 from three three of six from the line, okay? One of the only other guys in double-figures was sixteen and ten. So we got a double-double Montrezl Harrell with ten points. Nobody else really did a whole lot out there. Nobody else did did much on the offensive end. You had nine points from k c p but just 145 from 3 West Matthews who started and played some shooter 144 shooting o of two from deep in 24 minutes Mark assault eight points did shoot for 3:00. So I'd like to see them in four to five threes a night did shoot for hit two of them. So you'll take that but the Lakers on the night shooting just 27% from 3 that slide from behind the three-point line at one point. They were third in the NBA in 3-point percentage and they have dropped dramatically since then and in fact last game they were up just about forty percent from three against the wolves and that was the first game in a while they'd been even better than league-average from deep and that's usually about thirty-five thirty-six percent tonight shooting just 27% That's with me rounding up. That's not good enough that will not get it done 6 a.m. Turnovers on the night as well. That's not a good sign either pretty much everywhere things could have gone wrong for the Lakers. They they really did ten offensive rebounds compared to 8 to the Brooklyn Nets. The brake pads are terrible rebounding team. That was a place where the Lakers needed to dominate 24 free throw attempts for the Nets compared to just 14 for the Lakers each and every spot along the way where the lake she really needed to win that particular area free throw attempts 3-point percentage turnovers, the Nets came out on top and because of that they won the game and wanted thousand Ali so I wouldn't be taking your questions and comments, but I guess before we get into everything. How much do we really take away from this knowing? There's no Anthony Davis knowing there's no Dennis Schroder knowing that the Lakers how many times tonight did we see the Lakers throw out lineups that we've never seen before with five men groups that literally have not played a single minute together yet. Not played a minute. That matters and I know we get some people who say it always but you can't make excuses. You can't you know, you have to go out there and win every single game. I'm just telling you what happened in the game. We saw the Lakers defense breakdown thought that was the Nets offense was really good part of that was the Lakers energy wasn't there part of that was also that they were playing an unfamiliar groupings and defense being something where everybody has to be on the same page. You get defensive breakdowns like this when you throw a line up together add necessity, I don't blame Frank Vogel here. You have no shooter. No Anthony Davis your entire rotation changes and you're winding up throwing out these kind of bizarre lineups out on the court and that's going to create defense of break that breakdowns. It's going to lead to open looks because you guys aren't used to knowing exactly where they're going to switch off their defense of responsibilities are it's a tough situation to be in and so I don't want to make excuses for the Lakers energy. I think they should have played with more energy with more Pace should

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"frank vogel" Discussed on ESPN Chicago 1000 - WMVP

ESPN Chicago 1000 - WMVP

05:23 min | 1 year ago

"frank vogel" Discussed on ESPN Chicago 1000 - WMVP

"For Frank Vogel, the head coach of the Lakers, not bad he to first year with the team got a ring One in NBA title also helps that you got LeBron and Anthony Davis and now Lakers air back home After a seven day 13 game road trip longest of the season short time ago that coach the Lakers Frank Vogel spoke with both Sean Kelley and P. J. Carlesimo. Ever. Thank you very much, Coach. First of all Welcome home. You've been gone a long time. What did you learn about your team on the long road trip? Well, I think way. Haven't got a group of guys that is interested in, you know, continue to build chemistry. You know, and recognizing the value in that and you know, without the ability to leave our hotel rooms, you guys still came down to the bar rooms that we had and Try to try to make the best of a tough situation in terms of bonding and on connected, you know, which would you see a lot with teams when we hit the road, so it's good to see that they still have that problem. Frank with his many new faces as you have, and I know it's only 22 games with 22 games is a bigger chunk of the schedule this year. Your defense is to me way ahead to scout you really defending at a very high level for this early in the year. Yeah, I'm pleased for the most part. Um, you know, I always feel like we can be better, uh than we are, And that's an encouraging thing because we're leading the league in defensive rating right now. But we have a lot of love, intelligent guys. We have a lot of defensive talent on this team. You know when? When someone Anthony LeBron first but but also, guys like, you know, Marcus Ally and Montrose, Harold and No in particular. I think one of the areas we've got a big lift on the defensive end is what Dennis Schroder does on brings to the table his speed on the perimeter. You know, it's really given us an uptick on the defensive side of the ball and No. When you got guys like him and Casey, PS Caruso, West Matthews Tail important sucker. You know, you got five guys right there even called Koosman really competes. You know, they could really flat out guarding the perimeter, You know? So you guys were having a hike care fact on that end and So far so good, But you know, he's always room for improvement. We talked about all year. You're great players. You're all stars. You know the guys that have accomplished so much. You got 100 50 G league player that I mean it used to be was impressive that he got playing time. Now. He's like a rotation player making big plays late in the game, Alex Cruz, so he talked about him a little bit. Yeah, He's been invaluable. If you's part of our championship run last year, you know, I mean, that's the simplest way to put it. He was a key rotational player for us started in Game six of the NBA Finals and Just build a 30 point halftime deficit in that game, and you know he's picked up where we left off. He's sort of does it all. You know, he's great, great defensive instincts on ability, athleticism, great feet. Great hands takes charges. I Q. All those types of things and you know as a really good feel for Um, you know, playing the game offensively and just saying within himself and showing his first kill him. Coach. Last thing please share with the fans. If you don't mind the unique challenge that you and your team are up against tonight with the Denver Nuggets. Yeah, well, this guy, this guy Nikola joke joke. It's a joke. Crowds come. Joker is eyes one of the toughest guys in the league the guard, especially when you compare him with with small Murray, and that combination at the in the high screen role. It's created a problem for for every team facing them, and obviously they're well coached. And he also got Michael for junior coming off the bench is a is a young star. You know that's happened has a bigger role with with grant and implement being gone so You know, these guys have won seven out of nine after a slow start, and we have to play great to be them. That is Frank Vogel, the head coach of the Los Angeles Lakers, a short time ago with Sean Kelley and PJ Coalitional Kevin went to with you and the countdown. We are just about now. 30 minutes away from tip off a little more for the Lakers and the Nuggets. Want to go back to the Goodyear Hotline? One Welcome in ESPN Lakers reporter David Menem and he joins us on the Goodyear hotline. Right you by Goodyear, obviously helping you discover the road ahead. Goodyear more driven. Dave will get To the Frank Vogel not pronouncing the cola. Yokich his name properly. In a moment, the news tonight from a general Gjurovski, we're gonna have an All Star game daring Fox of the King's last night he was He didn't like the idea called it stupid. What are your thoughts about where we are in this? Not just MBA world in the world on having it All Star game in Atlanta coming up on March 7th. Yeah. I understand the reticence for anyone involved here and, uh, knowing that Your Kings player like they're. In fact, you've been going on the road halfway through the season, They decided that we have to make the rule stricter. You can't go to restaurants anymore. Not even the pre approved list that we established before the year. Can't have visitors to your hotel room on the road. If you go to town and relatively there, or when you're called college teammate was there. You can't spend time with them. Yet. We're gonna pick.

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Anthony Davis Disappoints in Lakers Loss

Lakers Nation Podcast

01:48 min | 1 year ago

Anthony Davis Disappoints in Lakers Loss

"Season You Look Tonight five of ten from the free throw line and a game that you lose by a point. Yes. That is the first step you're going to look at and that is frustrating. If you look at the rest of a stat line, he was fine 23-point skateboards to assist brought suck. If you're watching this game and you look at the stat line, this is one of those games where a d stats maybe don't live up to the way he played on the floor particularly the way he really got torched by Joell embiid a number of times. This is where the Lakers really needed Defensive Player of the Year Anthony Davis to step up and do something against your will and be instead and be puts up 28 points gets to the free-throw line thirteen times. In fact, I'm at the point where I'm about ready to move called Joel embiid Center Harden. I think that's what we should call him at this point just sent her hardened because that's basically what he is when you see his moves on the offensive end. He does the exact same thing shoot his lungs out. Look for someone else's arms are flailing to and then go from there, but it works for him. He had a nice night and I thought he'd beat a d a little bit too easily on a number of possessions. David's just hasn't quite had the energy that we've expected to see out of him again. The shooting on the night wasn't bad. But oh of three from 3, remember, we were told early in the season that Frank Vogel wanted him to shoot off. Five 3-pointers per game that is definitely not happened. And in the Lakers three point shooting tonight was an issue in general. But Anthony Davis just didn't have the game that you wanted to see out of him. You wanted to seem really step up and have a big night against a guy like Joel embiid who talks a lot who was talking a lot to a d during the game a guy who is in a candidate for MVP. I think LeBron James should get it but service is a candidate there this early in the season and anything he Davis I just didn't see that big kind of effort out of him that I think we need to see

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"frank vogel" Discussed on Sports 600 ESPN

Sports 600 ESPN

04:29 min | 1 year ago

"frank vogel" Discussed on Sports 600 ESPN

"To 90 for young outside now gets the hype it from John Collins. Now, Trey along three bank. Oh, pray from just past the logo and a time out clippers to nine. The game hawk. So what? Oh, wait. 99 victory over the Clippers. Trey Young 38 points. Third straight 30 Point game this season, he scored 26. In the second half. Oxygen one for their last five games, also 1/4 straight win at home this season. Pacers will be among the teams that are in action on Wednesday. Meanwhile, in these terrorist lover, it remains out indefinitely after cancer surgery on his kidney. He was part of the Ford team James Harden, trade and doctors discovered a small mass on his kidney during the team, physical and the medical tests prior to that trade being finalized. He's had the surgery. He's expected to make a full recovery. SportsCenter all night, ESPN radio Tuesday. Of course, the day the MBA and the world remembered. Kobe Bryant Lakers. One big in Cleveland on Monday. They were in Philly on Wednesday. Tuesday they laid low. ESPN is Dave McMenamin. Frank Vogel gave his team off today, he said he wanted them all to have their own space and be able to process One year anniversary anyway, they deem fit. They have already flown from Cleveland, Philadelphia. Of course, Philadelphia was the site where they were last year when they were flying from when they found out About the news of Kobe Bryant's passing along with Chiana and seven others, You know that everyone is approaching its the same way. Kobe Bryant's former hometown in Reggio Emilia. Italy in the northern part of the country dedicated a plaza to Kobe and his daughter today and it's right outside the basketball arena there, so anyone walking through the plaza To go to a game or return from a game will walk by an area that wants to remember Kobe for the youthful exuberance and actually, where he fell in love with basketball for the first time when his father was playing Professionally overseas. There, you know, the Lakers will not be wearing their black Bobby uniforms tomorrow. They don't want to put any greater emphasis on what's already a tough time. But certainly he's on everyone's minds and hearts and be Kobe spending several years of his youth living in Italy while his father Joe Bryant, played there. A space Dave McMenamin was talking about includes a plaque and a newly planted tree. Meanwhile, the MBA also mourning the death of Sacred Smith, longtime NBA reporter and television analyst. He died Tuesday after a battle with covert 19. It was 48 Steve Smith, former NBA player and analyst for MBA TV. He's family and I've been knowing Sekou for so long. Um Everybody has said it so eloquently. Um, just the guy that you know. Love to write had his impact on everything you did about basketball love the game. We had We call it the back of the bus crew. It was me are Trish Dennis Scott. We covered the Hawks games and the stories and the fun and the laughter. And first and foremost want to send my condolences out the heather in the three Children. Um, we had so many debates so many great debates, his love and passion of how to grow the game. We could make the game better. His hang time podcast that I know everybody's been on. His impact was It was will be felt, you know, forever because of the way he was as a man. I know sick. Who wasn't about You know, finding out anything other than growing a game at his purest form, and when it was best on You know? Wear my blue and gold today because he's a Michigan man. I'm a Spartan and That's the way I wanted my guy. You know, I'm so heartbroken right now, Matt Grant and Candace, but somebody mixed emotions. I just can't understand not being able to go on without having our debates are conversations I love for Not just a game of basketball. He was a guy that I used to go to, and will still think about all our talks and how he's helped me so much. I had nothing to do with the game of basketball just about the game of life. More than decade, Sekou Smith was seen across all.

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NBA Schedule 2020-21: League Releases Official 1st Half of Regular-Season Slate

Afternoons with Marcellus & Kelvin

01:44 min | 1 year ago

NBA Schedule 2020-21: League Releases Official 1st Half of Regular-Season Slate

"Scheduled did come out today. I did notice that. I was able to take a look at that. And for the lakers. I like you know. Look everyone's gonna focus on the clippers right and the christmas game and all that. But i'm looking at the rest of that and the thing that stood out the most and look. I think the league did them favor. Okay is that they have the least amount of back to backs. At least in the half of the schedule that's been released by the league. The league is gonna play seventy two games. They've released thirty six games. Approximately and the lakers have five back to backs. Then miami houston and there's one other team that i can't remember off the top of my head that has only five teams. That are the most have nine which is a lot. I feel like in thirty six games. But but they are not one of them and they. The league did the two representatives of the conferences in the finals. A a huge service. Which they should have did they did. There are a couple of dates. That are a little disappointing for me. but i'll maybe the league was thinking another way i and it jumps out at me When i look at the schedule is that there's no game on jamie twenty six I anticipated there being one. So that The lakers could be the franchise to mark. You know that anniversary But clearly the league either didn't want to. Or maybe they got pushed. Back from the lakers franchise me. They didn't want that date to play on But that's the first thing i check and then the second thing was just bronze birthday You know where would he be really be home or will he be on the road. They decided to put him on the road. Which i guess doesn't really matter because we not there to be happy birthday anyway.

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Game 5 wraps up of the 2020 Finals

The Lowe Post

10:15 min | 2 years ago

Game 5 wraps up of the 2020 Finals

"Moments after exciting. One of the best, finals games in recent memory. Game Five Heat Eke Ekit out to live another day and joining Zach tonight now Chris. Bosh. It wasn't quite. Five to Allen for three. It was quite Bosch Talon. But this is up there with one of the biggest heat wins in history I mean. For sure. It's an incredible game. What did you think of it? Man You know I, it is starting to be one of those series that's just kind of grinding to a halt. You thought that was going to happen is not happening. Everything, every player that she thought was going give this particular stat line is not it's not really transpiring right now but I mean, you have to give all credit to the heat and I kept telling people this in all these interviews you know how can get? The Lakers. Over they've got the uniforms on and I just like, okay he don't WanNa be here but let me tell you something. These guys if there's anybody. Who would embrace a difficult situation? It is Erik Spoelstra and Butler seems to really. Thrive off of that and anticipate that. affected. So it's Kinda like a marker will really hard is. Like they say, Oh hey yeah, we're here now. We're supposed to be competing for championship. This is how it's supposed to be. You know is this all about survival now there they've lived to play another day and that's what you gotta do. I think it's time to just acknowledged. Once and for all that, the heat had become a great team you know there was always this question of. Did they benefit from the hiatus hiatus in everything the bubble shake the bucks more than other teams. Did they benefit from hayward getting injured a really good. You. Know this Lakers seem his lost one game in every playoff series. Until now, they have not lost to to a heat team that is missing its leading postseason score until this series Goran dragic that they could started to acknowledge Jimmy Butler. The top ten player. Yeah that'd be we're. GonNa. Have to rearrange the rankings because this dude just put up thirty five, twelve eleven in forty seven minutes forty seven minutes and five and a half whatever it is it's the game you play dull game. Survived forty thirteen seven on fifteen of twenty-one masterpiece from the Brian. James we can talk about the end of the game if you want. Everyone can focus on the end of the game, but the heat put themselves in position to win at the end of the game. Duncan. Robinson was unbelievable. They're shotmaking was outstanding and this team just keeps in with Bam out bio clearly, not one hundred percent missing layups, missing dunks, he can play better he. To acknowledge the heat now are are for real and just like you were saying, they're short handed to. So you know we need to keep that in mind You can only imagine how the series would be a little different Gora was out there and not that he's just going to be that dominating presence, but he gives them another layer. To their attack and you know they have that team cohesion down pack and I mean, I don't really know where the lapses with the Lakers are happening with dunkin' Robinson. He's making them pay every time. I. Mean He's moving himself up into Lee Company every game because you don't expect them the thing you know you don't think he's going to continue to go on the street. He's he's gone on and you'll eventually figure that a veteran is GonNa get into them and just chase him to the bathroom. But but it hasn't happened yet and I mean they're making them pay every single time and. Boy I. Tell You. We'll. We'll see what happens game six. Years especially with a hobbled a little bit man. That's one of the big cities we should probably get to. Well, let's let's talk about the end of the game real quick. Okay. So a Frank Vogel Lakers coach has come out after this game and said that there were bad calls at the end. Jimmy Butler getting to the line I'm going to have to go ahead and disagree he's probably GonNa give find. Lakers lead the Lakers up one. He, ball they run a beautiful fast play for Jimmy Butler gets A. He screwed good play Lebron not. because. Eighty one moving so whilst I foot Lebron on. Screen Lebron and she goes up but Jeff Van Gundy called on the broadcast he he floats see I mean. It in verticality your whole. Career. Frank Vogel helped invent it with Roy but. He floats. He fails right? That's a foul. Yes. Afoul he jumped into them. You know good call by the resident and you have to give you know usually referees are getting tough time I. Think they called a Great Game Day You can always look on both sides and say, well, if an if but if they're even in the game is tied and the players they're the ones who are dictating what happens out there. Hopefully, the game isn't called. You know at the end by you know free throws or anything like that but all. Evenly called Game I. Feel. Throws. Yeah, each team had their opportunities and. Jimmy Man Jimmy Butler man he's he's continuing to do it. Man I gotta I gotta you gotTa give him props he's going to make give him props I. Mean he put them on their own is back in those last minutes. Man I mean, the one leg get he's hidden one legged fadeaway. You know he's hitting the free throws down the stretch to dribble I mean he's He's shoot free throws when you're that exhausted and not just. Did you her second he was going to miss you like just. To, to, of course, you were not you think he's GonNa Miss One because as a player I know how I would feel I'm GonNa Miss One. On. THAT TIRED Like him going over when he was leaned over panting after getting fouled, you know they burned a time out after that but. Just him just still being able to muster up whatever could and having a concentration suppose still had Chris Bosh on his roster. He would have run that play where you went to the back side. And the coroner. You. Come on you. Play for last second shot several times. So okay. So it makes a two free throws come down. They call time out again, Van Gundy and Mark Jackson. Call on this game all over this. Danny Green is in the game with a know Dunkin Robinson's on Danny Green. They know that they're going to run the screen to try to force Dunkin Robinson they know there's going to be a double with Lebron that's exactly what happens Lebron Drives Zach he drives into a crowd. There's three is three and a half guys there. He makes the basketball play Chris Bosh, which he is made for fifteen years since he's been starting to the playoffs, throws it to the Open Guy Danny. Green is a thirty eight percent three point shooter from that spot according to second spectrum is wide open. So I'll I'll throw them another couple of percentage points. And he missed it. Well I know Danny wants that one back. you know he made the right play it was a crowd I. I think he had the mentality to say, you're not going to beat us. We're sending everything in the kitchen saying and we're just going to close the shooters. They got the play that they were looking for. It was a tremendous play Danny Green slipped out. You kinda tell that the heat we're anticipating that play. Brahms. So able to make a very decent pass out the Danny grains got he got his hands on he stepped right into it. Any other time nine times out of ten he'll make that shot. You know he missed it what the interesting thing was on the rebound market Moore's he had plenty of time and he kind of made a quick decision Brian, opened on the right wing, which is always easy to say a new usually. Yeah. You throw it to ad but he had another big on you know and that was just man I was a tough light. It was very tough sequence. Watching film you. In it again now. You. Know Marquee Foucault Danny Green like he just handed the ball to hand off again Danny was right there funny though when he's when you through the LOB. Through. It I looked under the Rim I saw a d. and I thought again the balls just hand in mid Air I thought okay. I hate that decision because ad Mike, I'm putting the referees in play a little bit their down one, and then of course, the pass was that not an accurate he choked right let's just say. I'm not saying I would say that to mark keeps face in this moment. Do not say that Bryant don't say that. He. What do you WanNa say it's choked. Well he also as you pointed out before we started, you know they were setting the screen it they set for Jimmy on the on the go ahead. Free throws a flat screen by crowder and the flat screen is designed. You know Chris knows when your face in half court, it's designed to make defense. Gessler. Like which way to go, but it is an which wishing the pick he went he went from an angle to switching to the flat. kind of this weird in between space and if you don't, if if you're not demonstrative about your coverage, you'll get exploited

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Doc Rivers out as Clippers' coach, after seven seasons

First Things First

02:11 min | 2 years ago

Doc Rivers out as Clippers' coach, after seven seasons

"The LA clippers parting ways with head coach dot servers yesterday. Some would say it was inevitable after the way they collapsed against Denver many had this team winning the title. Don't even get to the conference finals doc did issue a statement yesterday thanking the fans and calling it eight disappointing end to this season are nick after seven seasons. Doc Rivers out as clippers head coach surprised the team made this decision. Surprised it took them a week or two weeks almost I. Felt like it was either going to be immediate or it wasn't going to happen. But while everyone respects dock and everyone likes dock and everyone's going to focus on the three one series loss third the most the only coach ever with more than one. Here's I. Think the biggest. Indictment on Doc rivers, not just this year but his with the clippers. And people aren't going to believe this but I promise it's true. Frank Vogel has won as many playoff series with the Lakers as doc rivers one with the clippers. Thing about that. So it wasn't just one year of underachieving, it was a better part of a decade of underachieving. and. So the question is, will the clippers get a better coach I don't know if they will. Tie lose going to be the obvious thing. We can talk more about that later but Jonah the real reason they did this in my opinion is because they were stuck like the brandon they don't have a good secondary pitch here they I know you would said, keep collide dock and Paul George and blow the rest of the team. I don't know if the rest of the team has that much value I think the only real shake-up you could do is trade Paul George whose values the lowest it's ever been or fire the coach I don't know that they had another way to shake the snow Globe Brandon. So I think they made the changer not for the sake of change, but because they had to change something and this was almost the only move they could do.

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LeBron's clutch jumper sends Lakers past Celtics 114-112

AP News Radio

00:38 sec | 2 years ago

LeBron's clutch jumper sends Lakers past Celtics 114-112

"Anthony Davis and lebron James carried the Lakers to a one fourteen one twelve win over the Celtics in a battle that came right down to the wire the duo combined for seventeen fourth quarter points with James scoring the go ahead basket and Davis making three huge bell shot in the waning seconds coach Frank Vogel said games like this are good in the long run each time we get into a close game like that win or lose you learn lessons you get a better feel for each other and you know that's that's going to you know be beneficial for us in the playoffs Boston's Jayson Tatum matched a career high by scoring forty one mark Myers Los Angeles

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"frank vogel" Discussed on WFAN Sports Radio_FM

WFAN Sports Radio_FM

05:34 min | 2 years ago

"frank vogel" Discussed on WFAN Sports Radio_FM

"One sixteen Davis had thirty three points ten rebounds lebron thirty to twelve and fourteen assists Frank Vogel this is quite the do article brown eighties determination when this game was extremely admirable and you know was prevalent all throughout the game including during that stretch and they've had some season so far jazz beat the one sixteen to one a one Kristoff forcing is a twenty seven points thirteen rebounds four blocked shots Mavericks over the kings easy one thirty to one eleven Grizzlies beat the Blazers one eleven one oh four and T. J. Warren was sixteen of nineteen shooting he had thirty five points based on the box one eighteen to one eleven you guys talk a lot about the baseball the pitchers and catchers reported for the Astros yesterday but the media was denied access to speak with them it looks like they will talk today in terms of the Yankees and Mets and others here is Erin bone thoughts about what happened with Houston he tries not to look back too much there's always that human nature of you know what exactly was going on he says really trying to move on I don't it doesn't eat at and he that part of it yeah he says things like this happen and he's trying to raise the having as as a broadcaster he really got close to AJ Hinch you know I really like them and I remember it when he used to do their games and you're speaking glowingly of him you know and I do the and again I'm gonna go back to what I think I think when you have a heavy handed general manager like Jeff Lynne now and you hire a guy who is just been fired coming off of a you know a bad student in his previous spot you're the manager you have personalities eight Beltran in Korea in that locker room and in that dog out I mean you are caught in between it's a really difficult situation you got the the front office saying it's okay you got these guys that are you know running a locker room and your just a manager that is hired because you collaborate with the front office right well he collaborated in cheating to somebody's gonna pay the price no I'm not saying he didn't I I know he did but he also you know smash two monitors in the middle of all this and that's lost than everybody but does show a level of weakness on his regard as a potential manager somewhere down the line I will say that and his interview didn't help him and the other thing I will say that this is the new baseball that we've been talking about for years and years and years now I feel like where the Buck Showalter's the bridge bow Jeez Joe Girardi's argh at the top of everybody's list because you know why big control their locker rooms they grind on everybody these new managers all are extensions of the front office well Brody's not messing with Louise robots we saw those guns yesterday no way that he's gonna be pushing around that guy so you see that picture in Jerry I heard about goodness big man he's like Tony bones or burn as ours at all sure it offered to start swinging a people a cell yeah what did it your boy bowed Brody bandwagon and say in regards to not hiring Joe Girardi we wanted to inhale when we got our exhale into the office of the manager and not inhale we want to be able to exhale we walk in wanting to as opposed to a certain so we we would prefer to when you walk in there go Hey skip and then when we take a step in we go that's what we wanted to do well this is what happens when you have had heavy handed front offices right well and your coach basically your manager kinda has is you know lights come out from underneath them now you can be walking into the manager's office were Louise row houses and start at the dips second prize are speaking of the series Jacob Agron his thoughts on the Astros and head down for to grow honestly I'm about to much about it you know you see what comes out like I said I I goes back to kinda I pitch I try to pay attention to what I'm doing for the season haven't paid too much attention to what was going on there you go and that's what he does on the mound to not delegate tenses went through these with the Mets now he was with the yanks his thoughts not to hear everything that happened I think as a team we kind of know there's stuff going on we just wasn't sure what it was you know definitely sucks looking back at it it is funny his only more of the video CBS sports network has us is that you know the ground throwing in Syndergaard senere on one knee with OSHA yeah well robin margarine all yeah that we talked about this yesterday and the today show Syndergaard run without the shirt on the whole that he's the only guy without the shirt on right well you should tell you Hey I got some packs I'm just trying to show off his new manager Jim TiVo nowadays these pales in comparison to robots look at this with the hair yes supports him or his gun when they are now doing notes here on third street ten little man on and it's a man learn two years ago that you know gas line turning yourself into four may not be the best thing for a pitcher no I think he's very comfortable in his own skin look at me **** is pretty much yeah okay pretty much job in the NFL the league reinstates Browns defensive and miles Garrett college basketball you had Saint John's with a win over probably back to rations rolls off the screen five.

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Vanessa Bryant thanks fans for prayers

AP 24 Hour News

00:37 sec | 2 years ago

Vanessa Bryant thanks fans for prayers

"Bryant's family in LA Lakers talk about their grief in her first public statement since the helicopter crash Sunday that killed her husband Kobe and thirteen year old daughter geology the NASA Bryant writes on Instagram thank you for all the prayers we definitely need them but as a bride also announced a fund is being formed to help support the families of the other seven victims in the crash the Los Angeles Lakers for home Kobe Bryant played for twenty years held a media availability after practice Wednesday Lakers coach Frank Vogel we are all deeply deeply saddened by this unthinkable tragedy so far there has been no announcement on funeral or memorial plans for Colby and G. ana Bryant

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Lakers will aim to make Kobe proud, coach Vogel says

Ben Shapiro

00:34 sec | 2 years ago

Lakers will aim to make Kobe proud, coach Vogel says

"As the Lakers prepare to get back on the court head coach Frank Vogel says the death of Bryant his daughter and seven others continues to be devastating in all around the people that were close to Kobe no throughout his time here and you know it's been a specifically setting time for all of us he says the Lakers organization is thinking about Bryant's family and the families of the others who died Sunday's helicopter crash in Calabasas is still being investigated Bogle says the team will focus on representing what Brian stood for as an all star and as a father Kevin trip K. A. B.

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The Glamorous Lakers' Unlikely Leader

ESPN Daily

05:45 min | 2 years ago

The Glamorous Lakers' Unlikely Leader

"So Kevin. In spite of being blown out the other day in Boston the Lakers are still the number one seed in the West and everything is sunshine and rapes around the staple center but a year ago. It felt like there was a storm cloud hanging over the franchise. I had magic Johnson. President Basketball Operations nations stepping down team fired their head coach. Luke Walton and then they chose Frank Vogel as his replacement awesome and there was a perception around here in Los Angeles that it was a pretty uninspired choice right in some ways frank. Vogel is the Ultimate Safety School. So for the Los Angeles Lakers Kevin Arnovitz is an NBA insider for ESPN. They went after Monty Williams former player who has immense amount of respect but at the end of the day he got a much more appealing offer from the Phoenix Suns. Tai Lue was a top choice. Lebron's former coach NBA Championship. Cleveland Cavaliers in two thousand sixteen. And what are the Lakers. Do they offer him a contract that I think it's fair to say was. Maybe not befitting a championship coach. There's sort of a standard now for for what a NBA coach gets in terms of the years in terms of money and this particular contract offer fell far short of that to the point where I think the public certainly the perception within the League was here of the Lakers doing it again. They think they're the Lakers. They have this golden or around them they can just offer championship. Coach is his deals. That don't reflect that pedigree so they don't get money Williams tyler walks not for another job. He just walks and they get Vogel. I used to do a lot of L. A.. Sports Radio and I remember this announcement very vividly. Los Angeles Lakers fans. They were not happy. Happy Kevin in fact they were furious. Vogel I think at the outset was seen as an odd choice for a number of reasons. One one is. The Lakers are the Lakers. And they have traditionally gone after coaches. That are either real brand names or have this royal. LAKER occur bloodline they are part of the Laker family. So here comes Vogel who is coming off. Two year stint in Orlando where he lost twice as many games as he won one could say no fault of his own. It was it was a young mismatch roster of players. But he doesn't have a brand name he looks like an accountant announced he's never played in the NBA before so he doesn't bring with him. The story playing career so for a fan base and a franchise. That's always been very brand obsessed. Why are you getting this off? Brand coach was very much. I think the perception an off Branko. Now I'm imagining frank. Vogel at the Grocery store he's like the generic. I Love Kirkland. I I think that sets up this story very well because you great value. Oh you use the Kirkland of coaches and of course. The Lakers are widely perceived as his ex hyper glamorous NBA franchise in particular with Lebron James. They're going into an off season in which they're going to be trying to get free agents. This is before the trade for Anthony Davis and here comes maybe the least glamorous coach forget fans for a second just people inside the game fifteen choices of who is going to be. The next Lakers head coach. I don't I don't know that Frank Vogel would have been on one ballot. I'm not saying Bogle can't coach Lebron's right that's different. So how did he get start. Frank Vogel got his start by by being a pest he was division three point guard for a genie out of college and he became obsessed with Kentucky basketball when he was at home on winter. Break when you're watching that famous Duke Kentucky lightning later catches He decides I want to be part a big time college basketball. He's going to leave his division three school. He writes letters to the staff at Kentucky including Rick Pitino and they basically send back a form letter. Thank you for your interest. This is in the mid nineties so he decides. I'm just going to drop out of my college enroll at Kentucky. I'm GONNA drive there. Basically without an invitation nation. And I'm just going to hang around the facility. Whatever anything I can do to get inside volunteer? Whatever they need and little by little sure enough he hangs around enough due to the point? Where Jim O'Brien who was assistant to Rick Pitino said Okay Okay? We'll we have the video room. which at the time video rooms have become like the very sexy place to get your start as a coach? Now Erik Spoelstra Mike Putin Holzer Dave Fidel but back then it was still kind of a newish thing and so he just camped out in the video room and essentially became one of the best young video coordinators in all of basketball and to the point when when Pitino went to the Celtics they ultimately brought. Frank Vogel Oh go along with them. And then when O'Brien took over he promoted him again and so little by little. He's sort of the He's the kind of the little engine that could of basketball. So he dollars. O'Brien to Indianapolis. And that's where he gets his first shot as head coach. How does that go right? He gets to the Fr- what we call. The Front of the bench comes a top assistant in an Indiana Under Jim O'Brien O'Brien gets fired and Vogel's the next Guy Up Larry Bird actually ask Joe. Brian looked this. Guy's really loyal to you. Do you think you take the job. and Jim O'Brien profane. Lee said absolutely

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