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Episode 293 - Frank Trigg

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Episode 293 - Frank Trigg

"That Mike Is Yours. And you see the podcast. Already started before the introduction Get excited with every guest. I have on here a lot of. I'm sorry interrupt you clean this thing. That was last touched by Stephen Pierce she the the singer from Iraq. So can you go ahead and give you a brand Mike. Because I know where he's been. Listen you want brand new. My Skull on Rogan's podcast. This is a low budget operation I'm GonNa give this man the introduction. He deserves. I don't have many people who are in any hall of fame. This might be well. Don frye was on this podcast. One of my first celebrity guest. Ast and I love Don. Frye hope he's doing well in Arizona. this man is a second. You'd see hall of Famer I've had on. It's he's referee. Now which makes perfect sense Place and he's probably the toughest guy with the nickname of twinkle toes. Give you for Mr Frank Trigg. You know I hate that nickname I mean. I felt weird even saying to you but it is your nickname. I'm trying to get rid of that thing for now. It's been almost twenty years right. Hold on twenty years. I'm trying to think for more than twenty years. I mean I was. I aware that nickname through I believe his name is the voice. Michael Michael Chabala. He gave it to you right. No no no. I got Lucia Ferrelli. Who was my manager time? His brother Rico was my trainer They gave it to me because I pay my toenails knows in Japan. He asked a female fight fight fan. You know who is your favorite fighter. The frights rover and everyone's kind of you know San Autographs and taking pictures all that stuff and and she was like. Oh I like the ball. Garo tattoos that note it down onto every American. That was on the car and Japan's near going to every single American guy who was on the car while a ball had tattoos and she's like oh the WOM- Toes and it stock. He's a total toast. Oh so he just ran with it and then he just that became the nickname you know. He also came up with the natural for couture Yasser came up with. What was Henderson's Hendro Hollywood is now back. Who was Hollywood Henderson? That was Louis came up with that one too He get with everybody's nicknamed that was part of the raw team. And so but I hate it from the very beginning to. It was a non like it and I've tried to get rid of it and just stuck. Thank God now You know the Beltran. The referee with two things super long beard. Yeah He gave me a new one Tristesse. Now that's running around in the Russian community tribulations as the riffing community Tight because I would. I would imagine you're all up for the same gigs. There's a big card this weekend Magazine and McGregor. That one guy the guy I gotta that'd be honest with you. I think there's too many cards I don't even see this like this is a pretty big fight and you. I haven't seen much on it well L.. Let me let me correct you slightly. This is a pretty big fight because conor McGregor is on this fight. It makes it bigger because he's fighting. Donald Sironi Aronie so with the UFC. All they really need is a main event. Indoor Komeda meant to be huge that will sell out the entire arena that will maximize mys- paper views. The rest occurred can be can be straight garbage right. Honestly it'd be straight garbage. It doesn't matter if they have a guy conor McGregor around the card. It's going to sell out. He says up by himself. You put one of the bad guys on the planet and Donald Cerrone on the card as well. It's going to do very well put those two together. It's fireworks it's going to sell you know I mean that's how it works for those guys like. I'm a heavyweight guy. I agree with everything you just said And even if I didn't agree with you you could kill me I'm fascinated by how like here. I am Mr Tough Hockey player and you could literally submit me in under five seconds. Well it's all relative The Truth Steve McKenna used to be married. Louisa forces one of my really good friends Seven to fifty. I used to beat the crap out of on the Mat. Put me on glass with livestream about shrimp to the bottom of my feet. Put a club in my hand. Let's change rock around on that glass and see what happens. You guys went every single time. It's so relative to the sport that you're in and we practice timing. Yeah Can I. Can I be most normal guys in the street. We're walking on the street and starts arguing with my wife. Can I defend her. Yes absolutely well you can too. You can do that as well. But you're not defending her against me because I'm not going to be. That guy was gonna try to start a fight with your fiance. I'm going to do that. That's not my game. The game game of the idiot. That does that that we can beat up. It doesn't matter because we're athletes between a baseball player. A catcher a guy that that's fourth that's the fourth utility guy for the outfield world. That played for the Houston Astros. While they're cheating winning. Winning a world series could still beat up that guy because he's an athlete. So that's the thing you have to get around it was like yeah you versus versus me on this wood floor inside inside your house. I'm winning oh I shouldn't put me on some ice. Let's see what happens. You're beating the crap Outta my catch you. I wouldn't even know what to do with you. Let's just say in the wildest scenario that We got mad at each other. I wouldn't even know like I. I would take one Chango Ongo. I hope I knock him out. That's your that's your best bet. That's my only be. I be last me I in runaway last. That's that's where you have to do but I'll assume I wouldn't be able to knock hugh out and then I'm in trouble. Well it depends. How much drinking am I am? I not paying attention to the backside and hit me behind the ear. You'd be amazed at how easy is the. Knock somebody out if you get them right and if I'm not paying attention I'm not ready for it like we're not the biggest problem when fight starts. Is that people start talking about fighting before they fight. Now we're talking about St Street fight so you now in his argument and we're getting accelerated. Things are sort of jumped up and then we start pushing shoving and then I was somebody get down right. It's like well that whole time. I'm waiting for that thing to happen if you and I an argument and you are going to go to the bathroom and I'm like okay. Let's go back to doing whatever and I'm taking it taking a drink and you come from behind me punching back of the head. You're probably going out because I'm not ready for it. I'm not looking for it but if I'm looking at you and I'm ready for it. You're not catching like what we let's say we're going to I'm just so curious. 'cause the last five I got an choked out in a hockey game I didn't realize the guy was a sheriff. And he did this amazing maneuver where he pushed me. We were face to face and he pushed me really hard with his left hand on my shoulder and it turned me around instantly instantly. Okay put me in a chokehold like a rear naked standing up and I was a well because well first of all for sheriff. He's not supposed to do that because that would be illegal to do on a perpetrator because he was in. He was in hockey game. It's totally fine. What about so And he it was little like he was probably I don't know maybe five six probably outweighed them At least seventy five pounds sounds and it was. I was out like that. Yeah and when I woke up he had my glasses in his hand. Because I hear those are really expensive prescription. I'm sorry apologize to them instantly by getting back to the too many cards. Are you know like a heavyweight guy. Yeah I just there's there's something magical to me about watching heavyweights with and I realized that lightweights can knock each other out with one punch But I grew up liking boxing in the seventies Eighties so like Mike Tyson. We saw we saw the end of Mohammed Ali. We saw the beginning of Leon spanks. We saw the end of Leon spinks. Tyson yeah we saw some legit tremendous heavyweight that I mean I have A. I will show you when you leave a signed buster Douglas Glove. I'm a big buster. Douglas Ninety in Tokyo had a nice. You know never talks about him but he is he on and if you look at the story behind. I'm sure you know the story. Sorry mom died. He was having a hard time. Rankin wasn't servicing. Build a run like this whole bit was going out with him. He showed up and just like that fight was not physical. He beat Tyson. 'cause he wanted it'd be Tyson it was mental fortitude. He showed up and said I'm going to beat this guy no matter what happens. I'm GonNa beat this guy and he went in and did it and end of it and then that was basically under Tyson at that point when she realized is like everybody else. It's weird once you figure out how to beat the Yankees Yankees why find with bullies and this could go to hockey fights if you go oh to MMA. I I always wanted to see but there's more than the you'll see You know that when the bullies beaten once they're never the saying you you know like Bob Probert who was the king of he was Tyson of the NHL in the late eighties to mid nineties but one night and Saint Louis. Todd did you and knocked him out. He was never the same. Marta mcsorley. Yeah I mean He. He taught me how that guy in the head. He thought for sure he was getting away with whatever he wanted he he was the guy. He was the enforcer so he could get away with whatever he wanted and then he did something so agree. Gis We're going to get you out of the League. That's how bad the situation that you'd caused us. We Tom I forget who he did. Donald or share dom Tomahawk him in the head. And how I met them I was in Manhattan beach at sharpies. Barrios Harry IOS heroes and they both were sitting next to each other and lily walked in. It was like I don't really know what's going on. I can't figure this out because the uniforms but I know you guys someplace. Oh Hey sure. Hey I'm like oh hey. Aren't you out of the League. Because of this. I is whatever it just had to be in town. They had to be sitting next to each other. It's crazy crazy. Well I think the controversial thing with that outside of the stick in the head and goes to. I don't know if there's a code within a May fighters but like in hockey. There's the code. If you beat a guy badly you owe him a rematch. Yes and that was the situation that people kind of forget and I'm not saying what mcsorley day was right but You know shared beat them pretty badly earlier in the game in a straight up fight. Yeah and he did the He had this thing where when he would beat someone really bad he would wipe hands together like he was done with them right. Yeah and he went by the Bruins bench and did that. And that did not make the bruins happy so mcsorley wanted a rematch. In Bushehr would not give it to him the rest of the game. And that's why but go back to your point. Look what happened to the bully. He he he alison heat and he won't now you won't engage with him. He doesn't know what to do okay. I don't know what to do. I got. I got accelerate this because I don't know what to do so your point of wants to believe beat people kind of figure it out and that's Kinda what happened extraordinary once. They figured out he's got to push the buttons and then he's GonNa come back after Eh and similar where Tyson because You could see when no one had ever gotten up from a Tyson knockout and you could see in deservedly really so I mean what my God But when Buster Douglas got up barely some argue he didn't because long count supposedly You could tell tie you know. Supposedly there was a long but I've watched it several times like it seemed to be a close does count to ten but did the rest start to count late. It was only it was only one second of two seconds late. And so here's the deal with you. Have to think about referees. have one hundred per second to make a decision and what's to make that decision to live with it the rest of their lives. Well we at home at the replay. It we watch it make a decision talk amongst their peers. Figure it out and then spit back. What we think actually happened well? That guy has to have great understanding of what's happening at that point. That referee might have easily grab the count and heard five. I'm not I'm not saying I don't remember exactly where I live. And then wait a second and then went five. Oh I see what sure say see what I'm saying like so sometimes he's a human like a human but he's not a computer things get messed up. It wasn't so egregious. You're like okay. To fight needs to be overturned contest. They went reviewed it tasted peel. It like none of that works so even the commission's with no it's stop. It's it's enough. It's not it's not that bad but also to think about what happened if Tyson Komo and they call that in the in the overturn it now. At the end of the the next day you go to no contest even though Tyson loss because along county have a rematch. Do we still have the Tyson. Buster the story when that happened the second time we don't know we don't have that story anymore to talk about. Wow how good buster. Douglas did against all odds against everything going on his personal a win. It's a great story that's changed. Same thing with fury and wilder if if the referee Decided to go nope you're not you know I'm stopping the fight. Because the way he undertake when when testing undertaken in the twelfth row is GonNa stop the favorite there he goes but I got up I did other protocol he got up. He got up at ten or at nine got up. I told her watch me took checked his hands. He was totally fine. I looked in his eyes. I doubt despite go on. Look at the great we write things can change. He's very quickly by referee. or by bad refereeing and human error involved in top of it so yeah with that Buster Douglas Fight. Anything could have happened. They could have done it either. Way could have went either side but it doesn't does it really matter what matters is is that now we're talking in twenty twenty of a fight. That happened thirty years ago. Thirty years ago we're talking about. I mean I remember I was I. It is funny how something thirty years ago I can remember like it was two minutes ago I was living somewhere else watching in complete complete darkness in my underwear. I'm not trying to be creepy. I was just. I was single so beer in one hand pants. Drinking my life had a drink. That's that's another story Wa we'll get that in a minute never drug or drink. Even though people just assume I because the way I talk slow and calm -pletely high dropped dropped on your head. We as a kid. Why do you have a big head? I mean we are on the spectrum high end of the functioning spectrum lake which I would say I might be possibly on the spectrum because of how I was raised which was by two very bizarre parents But that's an that might be another podcast but I was. We're going to after dig interesting very interesting. I'm super interested Frank. I'm strange guy. I love it but I was in my underwear alone. Ah at the edge of my bed and I was crying because I was like. This is the black rocky guys can be marching on through to no record guy's going to beat this. He's he's he's the guy and we all got. I couldn't believe the next day. Oh like everyone was talking about conspiracies Tyson through it on purpose because he didn't want to break recommencing honors record Tyson dude on purpose because he felt bad because buses mom had passed away like it was like all these things but it was all based on Tyson throwing the fight not on buster being that good that he was able to beat him that night and that's years later not that not that time. 'cause you know years later I was like wow. That's kind of messed up disrespected us. There's so much that we believe there was no way. He could've beat Tyson even though he has two hands and and just like every other boxer and as a heavyweight and had fought and had won enough. I see the next in line for the title. We were like. There's no way it'd be Tyson ties. It's just that superior period it was Kinda like the way people thought about chocolate out before chuck upbeat and Ryan. They thought about Ortiz before he saw getting beat high thought about couture before he started getting beat if we thought about huge before they think about all these people the only anime Friday don't think about that way. GSP because he always retires fights about retirement and he comes back and was no doubt retires. That's his Mo now is that he's a guy you can't talk about like that because he never stays around long enough to get you always leads right after he kind of smart because Sir uh you know these two fights about Tyson and this is in a boxing podcast. But they're rarely talked about is the two fights. He had with Razor Ruddock. Doc Who Roddick was really the first guy. I thought to stand in front of Tyson and I'm going to take your best shot but I'm also going to give you a few of mine and he did and I thought that that really fucked with Tyson's Head of like people aren't afraid of me anymore So I think he'd been holyfield caught because he couldn't get holyfield he couldn't believe feel around he's going to do it in MMA parlance since. I'm a heavyweight guy You know When people weren't really afraid of him anymore I mean I'm still I'm sure they're still afraid? Traded him now. He's he's still dangerous. But you know when he got a little skinnier Yeah yeah got out got off stores. Why didn't want to say that because I don't want to get you in trouble? Nope well doesn't get me in trouble. I mean it's just. He got popped for humongous levels of disastrous. He got hit for seventeen one right. Seventy sorts of EPA testosterone shouldn't shouldn't be any more than four two one five one at match. She was seventeen so I I'm probably I'm fifty one I I. I know you're not a doctor you would. Would you guess on like four or five to one or maybe so one of the things you don't know as I do men's health Talks for this call universal. Men's clinic which is a hormone replacement plays format mattis routers function like all these things underneath men's Pacific health. This is what they handle. They educated kidding me. Showed me that I've seen guys that are twenty five twenty six years old just coming back from Afghanistan that have like one hundred five one hundred six to start your own free testosterone number in their system the lowest. You're supposed to be as three fifty. These guys are coming back. They're young. They should be like charred hundred two thousand no problem and they're coming in super-low. You can't look at anybody and go to. Sasha was hired to Saas. You can't tell I've listen guys. I Look I look at them like. You're a flat blubbering. Don't work out. Don't do anything piece of Shit and on Menagerie Levitas was eighteen hundred. What the Hell is going on like my levels are right now? I got tested just a couple weeks ago I met two fifty seven Because I came off a disastrous to you two months to see my level dropped down to fifty seven. I'm like so I'm like wow. This is incredible but when I was higher onto Sasha and I was actually actually fatter right so it all depends on you by type. It all depends on who you are all depends on on what you have going on. The assumption is that every athlete clete as long as he's not a retrained and eats correctly in rehydrate correctly is going to be in a position where they're they're going to have a high level disastrous so looking at you at fifty one. I have no idea. What your sleep patterns? Are you staying up all night. Getting up early getting enough sleep. Are you working out. Are you doing full body mechanics. Are you eating right. Are you drinking right lake. I drink an excess. I was not that case. Are you doing too many drugs. Obviously you're not that case so it's like you have to factor all these things the only way to knows you go out and get get blood work done the route but the check is the real check is does your work. Hey you wanna go upstairs and the nasty or do you want to go to bed. That's so works reasonable proficiency. Okay then we're good then you won't find that But like I think people forget ovary case like at one point he was my size when he fought Ladele. I think I wanNA say ninety three. Sorry I might be off on the year But I think he asked me. Madam Years I think you would probably you probably on the card. I think he was tried. Eh checked out not ninety three maybe thousand three but and then all of a sudden he comes back. A few years later Horsemeat just like I've never seen a body transformation that You know he was two sixty five completely ripped like no fat so this this is a studio. His brother his name Ballantyne down team. They both grew at the same time at the same same rate which I don't care for twins and your identical salon work that way. It doesn't it doesn't it doesn't work that way. That's the way genetics don't allow allow that to happen for you to be exactly the same weight gain exactly the same increase in speed exact same increase in power or period of time it. Just it doesn't happen like that even if you do the same workouts is because even if the twins and you are identical still still factors new DNA. There are separate from the other individuals stout as was the reason why we raise twins. They they have two different personalities. It's how it works right so my first tell tale was like okay. I saw it the both getting that big that fast strong okay but then there was no testing. It doesn't matter the fighting and pride it doesn't matter it's totally fine once everything became legal. And we bought. And we've always talked about it before the pride coming over to you have see see how come everybody failed. So I was sentenced to drug testing kind of change things but also to these guys are getting from pride or way past their primes. These guys all cro cop you know coca crop date eight or Vandeweghe fade or I'm trying to think also big names that came over the head Bob Sapp at us. I'm sorry I apologize to the fans out there. I forget who else was coming over but always guys came over on a contract and they they mark hunt Marquan Marquan and we see how that they've done not as well as it did when they're in private because you're also looking at prime coca prime like all of a sudden now. He's not in his prime anymore. Well of course they're gonNA do it was well against guys that are hungry and better and faster and younger and stronger like this is how it works now. So it's like part of it was tissues better part of it too was okay. Now we have drug testing and and let's be honest a lot of stuff looking for drug testing now for is over the counter stuff you can get in Brazil. It's over the counter in Canada. It's over the counter and Croatia. It's over the counter in Japan. It's a drug. You can buy totally normal so these guys are looking at now. You had to have an educational change like okay. I want to see and be. It'd be famous and be great and is drug testing. I've got to do the drug testing straight in normal but also got to find out what I can't have any more at my I normally would buy just over the counter go to go to the GNC Z.. In South Paulo and bite off the shelf. Well this is illegal. I can't have this. There's a long education with everything is well the I get. I'm not plugging this place Because they're Canadian It's it's right down the street. It's called body energy. It's just the vitamin store. You know I like to support them over say like a corporate giant like gene and I was buying some pre workout a a powder to take just caffeine and the guys like. You're not competing in anything. Are you like fifty one. I'm properly no you can still competing in amateur cycling. Yeah drug testing is a world. This has some weird ephedra or something daily while still take it but to have to please. I figure if it's the worst thing I'm taking The I'm okay with a little ephedrine the system. The best stack was aspen. Ephedrine a cup of coffee. That was the best stack. Would you do that before or fight or for training for training thing and I became a legally like okay and I can't do it. Got Back off so I come from. I come from wrestling so my thing. I was getting drug tested from the time I was sixteen until I retired from the sport I was getting drug tested all the time and because I would pass I really believe this could be. I could be full full of shit but I really believe because I fit the eye test of a guy that it should be on steroids but because I kept passing the tests that they're like let's just keep testing them because approves that hard work and dedication kind of gives you this. This is my own internal monologue harbor and dedication location proves that you can actually have the body of a guy steroids. Without having to steroids there was just testing to show. The everything's real and he's okay but the reality of it is that it is name. I'm just getting pulled and once I got done like somebody asked me. She's maybe year ago. Like what cost interview is like what would it cost you to come back and fight and like I have a number. I'm not worth that number to fight though but I I know what the number is when you come back to fight. But I'm not worth that number to the promotion. I'm not worth that number to. Anybody involves so. Why would they pay me that number? I was like I can't pass the test because like Bell for Henderson. We're on TRT loophole. Aw I I mean what did you feel about that because like has a fan it was awesome for me to see like Henderson. Forty six like shredded and like like in Belle for like I do. I was when he fought tank Abbott crisis guys like you I mean did you like to the I mean. Did you consider that cheating for those guys or no because so I wasn't entirety back down. I wasn't on understand it but I was like no. It's not cheating because it's not illegal for people that go back. After Jose can Saco from baseball let me go back after him. mm-hmm made no sense to me. He was already out of the sport and when he was doing it it was legal. They won't drug. Oh I injected this guy and I sold stuff that this Guy Blah Blah on whatever okay. It's a great story but why are we going after a guy because the rules have changed. It's the same thing and forgive me for getting all over the place. The same thing we're going to have to Kevin Hart for the Oscars for for for the homophobic homophobic. Josie did ten years. Like who yes. He made a mistake. Sure you've apologized shirt. But there's a different era. You can't come after me for something. That ten years ago was funny as hell that we all laughed at Donaldson now is culturally sensitive. You can't be mad at me for something. It's like saying you drove seventy miles an hour on a road that has fifty five ten years ago but the spirit of seventy now. So I'm totally fine. I drive seventy all all day long. No no but back Danny drove drove seventy miles an hour and it was only fifty five. So I'M GONNA give you speeding ticket. Well how does that equate to anything. That's just stupid. So when Henderson and Vandeweghe and be tour and all those guys. Ron Tear tea back then no not cheating completely legal when they shut the loophole down you saw and Henderson. We had to fight. Right and Winnipeg for some reason candidates the theme. Today when he had to fight in Winnipeg he had to come off because they had a loophole to where the pay commission. T's not allowed so he had to come off right before he got up there and he's like and then he fought went through the training. Camp is like okay. I'm off to. You'RE NOT GONNA be on it anymore. And then four months or five months later that they all commissioner again. We're all we're all closing the loop on T.. Knowing to do charity anymore but Tennyson already come off on his own because he had to fight the section thirty made it illegal so no not illegal. Now it's illegal you guys get caught on a okay but then also to Who was the female she just got? She's got caught again or a tainted supplement. And she's like I gotTa retired from the sport because now my band is for years. All right I mean looked at We're going to end the instagram live. Feed right now out for those of you. You're going to have to go to apple. podcasts listened to the rest. This is Emma may legend. Frank trigg like it's pretty exciting to have him on here so Support the episode. And we're GONNA look up. Who this girl is? I would guess it was fallon. Fox is transgendered. No she's out she's out Ali. He's out of the gain after SEM and Smith Theater. That was kind of end of it for her. Might be. I'M GONNA look it up. Jessore oh she spends a with an engine overhaul. I know that for sure but anyway so so she got hit because of a tainted supplement and she proved the first time China look as a settlement that was approved by you guys in this commission. You guys not this commission but this was Sada I forget which one is which 'cause I'm not party judge protocol is it. Alex Nicholson. I'm not trying to interrupt. Oh she got suspended for years. I'll figure it out. There might be destroyed. I'll find it anyway. So she she gets popped and she's like I got. I proved it was a chain of salt. Meant from something that you guys have on the list of someone someone some allowed to take and this has a ban some in it so you guys approved. I followed the direction. I followed the protocol. I went through the list. I took something off your list. I used it tonight telling me I'm a legal. You gotta use a little bit better about a little bit better about about how things are she takes. I WANNA say like a man but sticker suspension. Like a woman and walked off she comes back and she popped again for another supplement. That's on their list. That that she shown is on their less. She's allowed to take and forgive me. I could be slightly slightly wrong on this but if I'm wrong and then yellow yellow earl don't yell at me that that She now is getting a four year ban. And I'm like this makes no sense. It makes no oh sense that this is a gift of amount to take your then telling me that d supplements are okay for me to take I take some and then I get I get a pop hot and you test test and you find out that I'm doing something illegal. I prove is from this summit the levels in my system everything semi system shows from this supplement. That's not from something else you you guys get the empty cases from the same law and test it and say yes there. Is this this illegal substance in the summit. I do it independently at my own. Cost to another lab. They independently determined. Yes this illegal substance is inside this supplement. This is how you got from. This is lot numbers from this because all these are the lot number whereas made all that stuff. It's often same thing. Yes one hundred percent then you spend me for four years the hold on a second and I tell you told me I can take this. You told me that it was that you found out there was in this thing and then you're only that I did something wrong now. I didn't do it well. The Fallback Aubrac every athlete is responsible for every drug that goes everything that goes into their system. US But I'm taking it from you. Guys are the experts of this so fix it. There's a flaw in the system right now so when guys get popped half me like yeah. That's right let's let's make it better punching guys interface where Oberlin guy's face. Let's make it better. But part of me is like cast. A people people are doing. It don't offset people to follow the rules and doing the protocol in doing everything. upstanding as a as a real athlete and then cut them out of it. It makes no sense to me because I think it just says a fan I I kind of forget. Sometimes you know guys could die in. The Ring Octagon always call it a rang. You know hockey players You know fighting Dramatically it's basically eliminated from the game. Now Yeah but you know. It's better to think he's better or worse because I mean it gets. I feel bad because as a fan Dan. I really loved watching hockey and from the eighties too I would say two thousand three And but you know a lot of these guys in the last us five or six years you know probably six or seven of them killed themselves because sat. It had trauma you guys you know. When I started watching hockey I I would've been a big player? Six one two hundred. That was huge for hockey. Yeah now that's small like these guys are Steve McKenna. Kenneth six seven to fifty. and that's naked like gear on and you guys are pushing to sixty five. You know close to seventy this guy in the Boston Bruins Zidane Chara six nine to seventy like I guess naked you say. It's so with skates and and Probably Twenty to thirty pounds Gerry's near seven feet three hundred pounds. He got into a fight the other night and I I. It's hockey is boring to me now. Because it's just like a glorified scrimmage yeah and you know I field old somewhat the same way about Ima May And I feel guilty saying this because you know like when I don frye on and he's awesome and You know he had trouble getting up at from his. He was saying that he was sitting right here. And I you know I can help them up and I was like fuck fuck man. I got this guy's in this condition because a guy like me paid fifty dollars to you know. Watch him do that. Then Gary Goodridge and unlike I feel guilty to be honest for once I'm trying to be serious but like you know like you know McGregor Soroti. I'm Gal paying seventy dollars or whatever it is you know and But I liked it. You know anime in the wild days like when when I had to go to best buy before it was on pay per view you had to go to best buy two months after the fucking card was over and by the time. You're not a real fan. Dan Real fans used to go to blockbuster. Well I went to Hollywood video. That just call you that so we were talking about. This is a couple of days ago. Where how did I get out? You know without brain-damaged everybody else in my era everybody. Everybody is brain damage I don't want a lot you know and most of my losses weren't weren't Koa tk almost Milosevic submission of US going to lose and it was always at some kind of a choke got on board one time Because Connett but other than that that was that was kind of my wasn't head trauma. I didn't take a lot of head trauma. rustler's don't take a lot of head trauma because we're inside the entire time. It's hard to hit somebody who they are. But you do not hit a wrestler like a like a really good like a McGregor did against Chad Mendez Mendez. beat the crap on the first round Kinda got back in the second round Mendez fell apart because he had three training camp and then got lit up and fell apart and then got got. Tko right that's how it always happens. What else am I may how? How many real clean super tight knockouts see? I mean you rarely the aspirin one you know not many. I guess maybe a few in the heavyweight division just because those guys are so fucking pardon my language strong like I can't imagine being hit by him I think about how many fights the row where we're talking about it before we start the podcast. The sport now is almost over saturated we almost have too much content for MMA. That at this point is becoming so much but even still even on the smaller Oh cards even on the amateur cards California throws somewhere between I WANNA say between one hundred eighty and two hundred and twenty boxing gourmet events per year professional on top of that CAMMO throws probably another hundred to one hundred fifty of amateur remain on top of that. A lot of animated animated goes through California. I don't know what the split between I'm pro between versus boxing but there is a there is a a boxing. Every Friday night de la Hoya throws a golden glove aurea golden golden boy. Thank you sorry. Golden boy promotion a basketball every Friday night. Someplace in the state and its four fights and it's so it's eight guys as guys are trying to bring up and you go at least fights and they all go to the distance. You never seen knockout like you showed knockouts now become a lot more infrequent one because the scientists better around training the scientists better about how to recuperate like why. Why is a Evan working on their neck muscles? Because that's how you stop from getting knocked out. Why nobody worried about hydration nationwide cutting such a big deal now because that adds into if you dehydrated when you're in a fight I was thinking you get hit? I had sad dropped twenty pounds of water weight to make weight but only put fifteen back on again. I'm five pounds deficit when I start to fight comes second round. I'm probably seven or eight pounds deficit going to the second round with a nice clean shot. It's GonNa put me out because I don't have the liquid barrier between my skull and my brain and my brain bus up my skull knocks me out now with how way cutting to become a big issue the sciences this is better between Diet and exercise. Civically for athletes is better. WanNa start seeing a lot less knockouts rows missy guys. We will go longer and we're GONNA see guys and they do get knocked out are going to have a a lot longer time off before they able to come back again because we know it's that time off. Anybody talks about always got a glass Chin bossing all time question now. We can't recuperate recuperate. He had one bad knockout and he needed. It's concussion from it. He needed to take six months to eight months off from full-contact from shaking his ad for moving around much and he's a stop all that to get his brain. He'll what athlete in their right. MIND IS GONNA take that that eight months or nine months off to get their brain hill. We're not we'RE NOT GONNA do it at all. I WANNA go right back in the next week you can get punched in the face. I did it the same time I got a got. A concussion went back. Four fights in a row where they're concussion you like no wonder I got no wonder starch in one of those sites is because I'm not completely healed. We didn't know that back then. Now we know this guy needs time off town. Coach just smarter manages the smarter. The motors are smarter and now is list. There's a list. Oh Hey trey got knocked out in May actually want him to fight in July. Let's call him Noni pass protocol yet. He's not he's not able to fight yet again and California's Pasolini tests. I let's see. Pass the test you know. Now it's a whole different thing so it's gotten a lot better from that mindset. We're going to see a lot of knockouts brain damage anymore. I mean when I say a lot the the I mean the the volume of what we saw in the past can be a lot less. Are we still going to see them. Oh absolutely absolutely so you guys get a lot of them if you really listen and look at how they are really. TKO's guys are getting beat up so much that we're like not enough we stopped. We're stopping it. Even Boxing Guy Getting beat up bicycling stopped a lot quicker now a lot quicker because it is scary. Seen this guy getting brain damage and we are are two grown ass men grass women throwing punches and kicks at each other. We're trying to do damage. The person we we may not be the May not be an evil person. But we're trying to win this fight. We're I'm trying to pay for our training camp paper families right. Do these things right so with that. You gotta like okay. This person's GonNa hit this person's heart as possible and very quickly to finance aunts frequently spice go on and say okay guys getting too deep fight back and looking to stop it fightback fightback okay fights gone. I'm totally until I know you're totally fine. Totally fine next month when we fight again. Let's just move on. You know like in like I love that. You're a fighter. Now raph because it reminds me Paul Stewart who was a goon fighters don't like being called goons But he was probably a goon even he would say I was a gone and that and then he became a raft. And say it's it's the perfect you'd think. Wow that's the perfect Post retirement job. Because you're going to know what rules to break or you're GonNa know what rules are being broken. Okay you broke every one of them when you were playing. Is it similar for you rapping like you know what to look for because at one point you're the guy maybe You Might WanNa go out and get something to eat and come back and you'll have time to listen to later. I love. It is a long story. Let me tell you this right now. You're the perfect podcast guests and I don't say this to kiss draft but like you don't give one word answers like I've had some guests out you know like Don was the same way ahead. Tell us about your Gary Goodridge. I coulda left and ran a marathon and come back still be talking So this is having take as much time as you want so I was talking crap about how bad the the judge the referee was and I was like my friends are GonNa kill somebody to watch one of my friends die. It was getting that Dyer. John McCarthy overheard heard me talking about it he said Oh you think it's so easy to take my course Mike full I just stop fighting. I know all the rules and what I'm doing I'm GonNa take your course you stupid little command cores. I'm a blow right through this thing. I know everything there is no about fighting. There's nothing not one damn thing you can teach me in your course. Three course one of the most intensive courses I've ever taken besides me working on my captain's license right now for for charters are going to be a charter captain. I learned so much in that course and failed miserably. I mean it wasn't even close. I was on the radar guys past. There's only thirteen people my core class class. I think one or two people pass the first time I took it and everybody else failed. I was the bottom of the heat. I knew less than the guy that was just a fan. I literally had no idea I was talking about but I would thank someone who fought in pride back in. Let's just say the the renegade days that you would have that you would have passed easily because you saw. Aw probably a hundred times more than say what you know an amateur fighter who never made it and who's now wrath like. What did you miss everything? Thank you didn't know what the rules are. And this is a problem. It's very unique to anime. Most fighters coaches trainers. Don't know what the actual rules are. They don't actually know what the rule is and by commissioner slight differences within each commission. One Hand Down for a downed opponent to has down for down opponent. which way as how is it? Whatever Baba it changes per commission and that's fine little little minute? Rules is still five minute rounds. Three rounds or still five rounds. That's pretty much it. I go fishing but there's a lot of other little nuance rules. That people don't even know a lot of the commentators. Don't know what the actual rules are like. They don't really know what they're talking about when he's come through. I was like I couldn't believe what I didn't know about the sport that I compete in for fifteen years is that I actually didn't know what the hell the rules we're at halftime and what to look for as a referee what to look for as a judge to be able to judges fight on its actual merit of what. The fight is happening. Not being being boxing. Heavy not being submission. Heavy not being wrestling had three times so he must have won the fight. No you gotta look at the entire fight from different positions what is actually causing damage. What is actually happening in this? You have to know all these positions. I knew nothing I had to go back in a year later and take the course again and I barely passed the second time it was so I didn't actually pass the second time and John is the person who passes or fails John Lane his wife. Those they do everyday Jerry Jones partner they view look at everything they go all of it. I actually didn't pass a second time. How I passed? The second time was to go in and I had to take six weeks apprentice John once a week for two hours at a gym in Valencia. At a sit there and go through and do a privates with him how to how to judge at the end of six weeks I got to do. Three fights on a university of M. A.. Amateur Bout for Cam. Oh I left three house at the end of three bouts. He goes okay now. We've reffed three libraries the amateur level neither gone through all the protocol. You are now ready to say that you have passion and I got my got my check-marked I passed command course now. Now I've got to go do a hundred at the amateur level. One hundred hundred dollars at the amateur level one hundred nine hundred promotions because you might get three or four are sometimes five. Depending if you do Antonia McKee's event down in Metro you might get three or four. But if you do Jason Stewart's epic writing down in down in San Diego. He has like like twenty-five on his car. And you might get five or six. It just depends but you have to do one hundred bouts before you can apply for your card. That's the that's the role. That's the rule. If you've never left before he comes to Santa California you have to do one hundred amateur level bouts you can't start refereeing at the amateur level until you pass Herbie's he's a John McCarthy's course that's it period. That's just how California does it. That's the reason. Why California has the best judges because everybody had to go to this protocol coming through there's other fighters they're trying? It'd be referees and Judges Right now. Chris Leeann his past. He's been doing a very good job. Donna Campbell right now. Does it quite hundreds for can't be appropriate but he's also still fighting bare knuckle boxing. So it's a little weird so be competing and then try to. I know I said the same thing to why. Why are you still fighting? Stopped but he might. He might need the money. He's got a kid. You might need a you know. I mean he went through divorce lost Jim I am not too long ago so I'm sure he's trying to recoup some of that money back and I'm sure that bare knuckle boxes giving him that avenue to do it so good good for him. Every man has his own way of making money. Ray out Christina Santos's cyborgs boyfriend He he passed. He took the course twice as well. He failed the first time John had come back and take it a second time and it is very difficult to get started in the game so for anime. It seems like it makes sense for an expert to come in and start being a referee judge. It really doesn't because honestly most athletes you you think. Give me give me Tom Brady Tom Brady retires right now and becomes a referee right. which you wouldn't because doesn't make any sense and I'll get the reason why it doesn't make any sense now because he's not very good at it but I'll give you the reason why a moment Tom Brady becomes a referee free? He'll jump he's going to have no idea what looking at a difference. He's had no idea he's been a quarterback is entire life all he's worried about his passing interference and he barely early knows what the whole looks like in front of him because he's too busy looking downfield. So how is he going to be a good referee. Referees have to see everything we have to know everything. How are you going to be good referee? It makes no sense. Brady cannot be referee finances. He showed up at the field and made game day check. What the hell was it? A hundred and fifty thousand dollars twenty thousand dollars a game day check might be more than that so why I mean I have no idea what the hell numbers haven't already makes the Oakland A.'s. Five hundred probably is why is he gonNA show up to make AAC to grant and do a whole by an n get yelled at when he screws up and get booed when he makes a bad call and get ostracize on Instagram Graham on twitter on on for him Tom. He's calling on my space still so getting beat up on all these things. Why would you do it? It makes no sense so allow these fighters are come in my era. The guys in my era They can make the jump. The guys that fought because we were making that much money right so for us to come in for me to make so. My wife is a timekeeper. The State of California's pointers both boxing. MMA she makes on the big car she makes four hundred and forty dollars. Nobody recognizes for the whole car. Now Khokhar per fight the whole car. I mean he's different in boxing Boxing Jack Reese I think he got twenty five grand. I think maybe sometime wrong. No no for referee fury while they're fight Kenny bayless in the top. Two Best Boxing. In my opinion the top two best boxing referees in the entire the entire World Jack Racist california-based. I can you bail us as Nevada based on the fights and he may twenty five grand for for Mayweather McGregor heated at one fight that night. It's all he did Both those guys may two million he he may twenty five grand. It doesn't seem fair. I mean but look at it but you have to understand fair. Not that's what it is when I when I do a bell tower a UFC. Because I don't I'm not I'm not in the hierarchy Beltran. Her zog Greis those guys get the gate event comb event those guys get the title fights those guys who to make two grand. I think on the night for for other fights one payment. All you've gotTA fight it's on pay per view. They're going to get the most amount of money I'm might make twelve hundred and I got four or five five at night. Plus plus checks plus goes on with it like the financially. It doesn't make any sense. Oh Yeah you can be a pretty good living. If you do two fights to a weekend you only really work in six weeks six as a monk. That's really good. That's really good. Yeah that's great. How many fights on pay per view for the UFC? Because that's we paid the most pay for the year of C terrified interstate. You're working. I'm on license in two States California in Hawaii. That's it. So how much can you actually make you break it down like. Wow that guy for him the work you have to work every single weekend every single weekend garlic. Herb Dean has to make every single weekend to eke out a living the scratch out a living. There's no money in it so financially. Most cease-fires Congress never gonNA rough or judge. It makes no sense. You Know Chad Mendez. Riot favor you guys I think would make good wraps that understand that great knowledge that that out of the sport right now that that have the brain power behind him. I'm going to do it. I mean I mean five hundred thousand dollars. You're I favor I mean five thousand dollars my last fight. Why am I gonNA come in? And Wrath this ref force bites. Thanks for for five hundred dollars. Four hundred dollars. Sometimes we work a pro event in a made sold out not on TV. We we might make five hundred five hundred fifty bucks. It's the state we have to wrap the same every fights the same to us. It doesn't doesn't change not maybe not. So there's no finances so a lot of the referees and judges is that are for providers can make the jump because Spanish doesn't make any sense. Then how are you going to give up your weekends for a full year to ref every the amateur event that you possibly can in California I drove. I can't even tell you how much I drove. I probably put sixty thousand miles on my car and one year driving from Nevada due to wrath or access linen Nevada time the rough Nevada to dry the southern cal I would drive out Friday night to roughing southern California King of the cage type of the epic epic Metro Center like whatever it was sparse star like. Whatever popped up with turnaround right after drive back to Nevada would go to Vegas with Dan? Go to sleep and wake up. Go work out get a little lunch. Report for another event in Nevada worked at the whole night that Saturday night go to bed wake up the next morning to drive back to southern California to another event on Sunday in southern California to turn around and drive back Nevada. Go to sleep the next morning. Grab the kids. That was my schedule. It was it was crazy for full year. That's what I did. I drove everywhere to get these fights and I want to get these fights is when I get who can do that. Who could stop the regular daily life and mind you at the amateur level? You make one hundred dollars for the entire night. I make abouts. That's an entire night fights. Ten fights one fight three fights a Lotta Times amateur events you there from like three or four afternoon until midnight either all all day. It's a full day job to make one hundred dollars. Oh but you love it but you love is but financially. Why would I give it my entire weekend to make just one hundred dollars and had this pressure put on me the put this is to put this this? These these these amateur fighters are trying to make the pro leagues one loss from them is. They're just going to one of the shows. You have see your belt or or having to go to one of the minor leagues because has it got a loss of two losses like it's a big deal for them right. You screw up one time guys. Fight Man Dude. You're you've ruined his life. He ruined his income potential coming in the next couple of years. This is a big problem for a hundred dollars right. You know. It's really hard to to make this junk then to jump into judging referenced kind of fix that's right now. But judging is the biggest issue it goes back to my start. There's a real issue in it. There's a real problem with it. My saying was always. The judges. Don't have a lot to go to the judge because you never know what you're gonNA get Tena White is if I get pissed off like it's a see that's my that's my phone. Just listening looking at new all time. They're listening in all time. I didn't say Syria anytime. I didn't say Lexus Ain't time my phone picked up what the hell in frank just said a threesome with the Alexi Z.. Because judging does seem to be all over the board like and it's tough 'cause like I favor striking just because because I love box. I grew up the heavyweight boxers. You know it wasn't just Ali and frazier informant. It was like guys like Earnie. Shavers Shavers and Ken Norton and So like a guy like aspirin You know who's wrestler You know I might be AH. He's Kinda boring I in. He's clearly not. I'm not saying wrestling's boring but that's the problem. He seems boring because he's boring. Because somebody else told you who was boring and you just listened. Oh no I mean I love watching him fight because I appreciate someone who is so good at a particular area You know like Damian. Maya's another guy who who was infamously. He's boring because he would just he's so he's so buying. He made Thailand Woodley get yelled at because he had a boring fight against him. Like honestly how can tyrant beat Daymond. Maya the only way you can beat him keep on feet and punch him in the face. He goes on the ground game no matter how good is the wrestler. He's getting submitted. So it's five round boring fight in my is so controlling so good at what he does in so boring he makes other people look boring. Well it's like Increased certainly anything the thing but boring but you know he kinda gets that reputation of Jesse put you in that Baird grip and like He. He won't let go and and I don't mind that because because this is what's he supposed to let you go so you can hit them. You know you don't like how we Russell's to become a wrestler. I duNNo. Yeah I don't mind a born a quote unquote Boeing fighter. Although I love watching the guy like say Derek Lewis just stands in front and banks and Zyppah. You follow him on Instagram. He's very he's got the funniest shit out. Oh my gosh. That's a guy who I would. I guess you know in in your seaworld world. There's not very many openings for announcing but that's a color commentator like someone should hire that guy as soon as he's done well. The problem is is that that lobbyists now is trying to mainstream on regular FCC regulated TV. And he guy like Jerry. You can't trust the keep his mouth down just driving shit fuck bombs and it'd be saying God damn it the whole time. Help them run. The whole George Carlin's seven dirty words. I without a problem with that guys. He's kind of like Tony Romo and football. Although I mean Tony Romo clean cut. Yeah I wear sketchers Costa boy but he is I. He might be the greatest color commentator in football. Anyway that I've ever because I'm a huge football guy. Yeah he the way he breaks it down and it's like all right. They're going to run a trap here because this situation dictates Rogan Rogan made me want to watch. Because he's a high level practitioner himself. Yep So he knows what he's talking about `bout and sometimes well yeah Ghetto but it has a has a Leben has a non practitioner. It's like okay. He's GonNa put them in an ownership. Lada here because this okay and it makes it interesting for me You know someone with no anime Knowledge College. In terms of the technical aspects which is why probably gravitate towards a fight like bigfoot Silva and Marquan. Yeah yeah so seat to go back to welcome for a second. He knows about US making fun of him. Please get on Papa. Joseph remember he's the he is the he is the the Value the number the level. That everybody else accommodates is trying to get jobs level. Because one. He's very a quick witted right so he's very smart he he. He's very that's his comedy's comedy's very quick witted. So you kinda get like how he sees stuff is at a different angle. But then he's also like you said a high practitioner of taekwondo but also Jitsu so he understands Jitsu as well he knows the fight is going long before if I guess there I think the biggest problem he has sometimes now is the other color commentators because sometimes use a three man booth these. I don't like I can't stand the three man. Amblin drives me crazy but you know what am I. Your Guy was in the AFC hall of fame. I'm not but like I don't like I just think to voices in any sport or enough yeah. You don't really need that third person there unless you got some at super old and just like the lead commentator has been like the guy the voice of the of the of the Voice of of the promotion for so long. You don't WanNa let them go but you wanNA kinda gluttonous load and lent his voice up guy in by the part of the problem. Is that these third guys in the booth are jumping being the gun and where to go but Joe actually knows what if I was going to go. And he's not a guy's GonNa throw anybody else any of the bus. Oh I'm sorry that's not the right place we're actually going as he won't don't do that to his broadcast partners. So they say the fights going a different direction and he has to follow suit. He's Oh yeah okay because they jumped up on them and it's like if he just let him go on his own own he'll tell you the fighters going all the way through till yet they're upset about the step in and stop it as stepping into stop it like. He knows that much about the sport and Saturday against John Food. WHO's fine but I'd rather cruise or data coma or any owner? Paul Faldo who I think are great. They're they're amazing when they're on their own with just take people in the booth right when you get to that third person. My Gosh here. We go like now and I can keep them like okay. Let's find how many mistakes these guys make as they're talking because they're trying to outdo Joe and you're not gonNA you're not you're not I mean well maybe with the exception of a and cruise like you're not a joke could probably kick your ass And you're not going to be funny I wouldn't mind at booth of say Rogan Cormie or Rogan and crews and. It's nothing against John Antic back. Yeah but then you lose your play by play guy which is the problem because not only colors which is what the CIA believe. I don't know I'm just speculate. What they're trying to do with their booth is make it relatable able and put to to ex-fighter in there that that gives more more credibility to it and then the guy that actually brings all the credibility joe to drop out? Anik you all of a sudden you lose your play by play Klay gone becomes really awkward because no one you know how it works the play play guy now. I know you know but I'm sure the fans at home don't know how it works is the play by play guy tells you what just happened does a great one too. That was a great three. Oh look at that. Look at that exchanged. He tells you what just happened. The color guys tell you why it happened and why guests love. And there's nobody better than Joe this as anybody better than Joe at doing it puhl fellows kind of close. I liked pilot. I like I like Paul. Where he's going how he's doing? I like always increasing house becoming better or at it. He's to me in my in my personal opinion. He's the best of all the ex fighters or fighters that are jumped into it. He's actually better than even me. I would love to say that I'm and I'm right behind Joe but it's not true. Follows ahead of me. He's much better at it but when they get together I don't know about much. Better get some confusion thank you. I appreciate that confusion. What's going on inside their booths? Because I'm like what's happening like Jesus when when it's three of them when it's two of them when it's just an and one of the other guys is great. But when his three little law sometimes well I don't even like doing podcasts. Casts with more than two people like this is a great back and forth like I. You know I'm genuinely. I just want to set you up for long answer. But there's a third person here like you know I would feel okay. I want to be quiet because I want them to talk. Or you know at odd I think that's your setup is that you always have to people on unless podcast is set up. It's always a to to you like She was who's the guy gets the titty lock of the week. Thrasher thrasher no Bob. Memory Mentoring says name. It's possible I don't know them all. Okay so he he has a three man booth. He's got some girl in there and one of his buddies and they bring guests the time and then went to three of them just three hundred talking. It works really well. Because that's how the PODCAST was set up. We've been there somebody else. They have doubt they were like okay. You series of questions. Here's here's your question. Don't interfere with this. You know so it's not like I steal one of yours and then you're kinda stuck later on and then but they do you do kind of notice that like one or two of them to bail l. out kind of bail out in the interview they just don't ask anything. Just don't talk the entire time. They were guys being interviewed like what happened to other voice. Where is that other ways? Now you got me like I'm I'm not an Alpha male in that regard like I'm like well I want this person to get their lines and sell just be quiet and listen and like But that doesn't make for great TV when when who or where were you born and raised. You know it's very interesting. A- Belair layer like really Bella Bella principal layer were okay Families rich well. Here's where they servants. Well it's an belair in the sixties his was Kinda like Culver City just undeveloped not a lot going on the hillside with a few view homes and then there was the Bel Air Fire and my dad had bought a home and his our home was the only house to survive the bel fire fire. Oh Oh okay. So it was literally like being in on a tech stock when it blows up and then in the seventies You know O Oj. Live there Kareem. James Caan. I mean every celebrity lived in Belair and then it was we were like the addams family like we weren't poor hore but we were upper middle class. Yeah Okay but upper middle class in bellairs poor. Yeah you know our next door neighbor stallone I is a a WHO's who of of seventies and eighties celebrities So in NYC. He bought a membership at the country club. Which today I believe is at least three hundred thousand dollars? Wow just to join her down. That's the that's that's your front money before. We have to pay the monthly dues. Oh Oh the monthly dues are probably. I don't know I'll guess you know A fifteen hundred. And that's not counting your food and Shit. Yeah so you know you have to be a celebrity of note so it's Kinda like yacht club okay but back. When my dad bought the membership it was a a twenty two hundred dollars to buy the membership? And so I was. That's why I'm so you array you wit went into hung out at the Belair L.. Air Belair Con. I played golf there every day. I would see now younger people who might fan based you'd think being fifty one of my fanbase will be older but I actually in college kids for whatever reason love me Because they're not doing anything but they're not gonna get these references by like Mac Davis who was an incredibly credibly famous country singer. Yeah and probably my favorite sports movie of all time North Dallas forty. He was there so you had people like that and But but it was interesting I would say probably a racist environment just because there were no blacks allowed. Wh Whoa what you make you would say races around. It was a racist environment. I'd so mind blowing to me that I think there was one black member out at the time. Seven or eight hundred Vice President Coca Cola. He was a lawyer. Yeah sadly we gotta let him and they wouldn't let Michael Jordan join Yeah Yeah as a kid. I didn't really you know you're young. You don't know I it was like Oh that's racist but then I think the next day someone said he was so pissy joined like he love another other country clubs. Tisby like fuck you guys So I had a weird childhood. Not Weird Well California. That's kind of normal. All Tori spelling. Grew up her family was re you know. Hundreds of millions of dollars spelling family. Aaron spelling runs everything right. My Dad was like the Rodney dangerfield character in caddyshack love. It love like he was a diabetic so in his mind we talk about weird the nutritional things in his mind he had eat chocolate bars. Constantly to level is sugar out so he would have chocolate bars in his golf bag. He'd have chocolate cars in the glove compartment depart chocolate bars in his glove compartment. He would they would obviously melts because some of them had been there awhile and he would just wipe his hands on a shirt so he would show Tobel our country club. Where you have heads of Howard Keck the oil magnet heads of state almost? Yeah and my dad would look like he wiped his ass with his because is he a chocolate. All over you know. What does your dad do for a living? Well he see this why I knew this would be a good podcast. Cast you've turned the tables. It's totally interested in what you got going on. This is school referee in judging. Let's talk about this. It's inappropriate frank. he was macgyver He he was very hard guy to like. He was on the cover of life magazine for killing Awale Killer Whale Ale with a slick with Harpoon. Yeah but I mean a whale okay like like a big big humpback a big. Yeah I'll show you the picture after Has a child and we had an basically an Olympic sized pool in our yard. The whale's Jawbones were the length of the pool. They were the seat so when we have pool parties or gas they would sit. It was like the flintstones while so it just goes to show how big the whale. Gm I mean. The whale's Jawbones were probably the length at this room for that will allow and And then his grandfather his dad was In the depression era would drive to buy oil refineries and he noticed that with throw away their waste and he would go up to these oil refineries and goes. Can I buy your waist. And and they looked at him like he was crazy. You can have it. And he developed this Process the turn their waste in the graphite so probably this table right here with this graphite it some long winded family trae. My grandfather was responsible for this rabbi on the table So he took over that company and He was a scratch Golfer. Self taught scratch Golfer but he had the worst. Swing swing. You've ever seen in your life. Barclays looked like Oj if you've ever seen OJ swing a golf club. It looked but he was like he created. Aided this swaying that scratch golf. He was a very interesting guys. A whole point of that long winded answer. He what did he do. He did a little bit of everything. Yup Hence the macgyver reference. Yeah he was just good at everything. He was a brilliant businessman until one day he invested most of his money in an oil. Oh project in the Amazon. That went up to Yeah but if it were to hit the we I wouldn't be talking right now. We we would it just been a nicer place. My mom was a hillbilly from. Carter's rural Georgia. So it was. It's a strange upbringing. Not Strange well she was kind of a hillbilly to talk about. You know his grandpa his father thinking about taking old refinery waste and turn it into graphite. That's that's like a hillbilly mentality. It's like I gotta figure out what to do with this free shit how I'm GonNa make make a profit of it that's a that's a real capitalism. That's a real thought process but there's also strange upbringing because my dad's sisters Ethel Kennedy. Who married Bobby Kennedy? The second Kennedy brother. Yeah so then you had the Kennedy Lineage you're married into the Kennedy family by marriage yeah so But even that was a strange like You know like I have two brothers. Two sisters were very close but we never talk in. Most people will be like the new not very close make sense but yeah what in my particular case. My hours just strange is at the comedy store last night till two in the morning get home Mkx from the show because it went well so I from the show. Sure I'd never done it. Probably with what I walked around and smell bobby did get got a buzz. California now doesn't matter yeah. It's all legal but you cannot smoke in these still going to get some point so you know I woke up at eleven. I nervous about you coming over just because a AH the way I do my podcast is. I don't plan a question. I had no idea what I was GONNA ask you. When I hit record I like the nervous percentage Gotcha Okay and here? We are in our in and I could go on for another hour. I got no problem. I got nothing to do today. but I'm done so nervous about you coming over in like okay. This is GONNA be 'cause I've had one interview that maybe didn't go the best I won't mention their name but they were famous in the eighties and I imagine you probably got I wish Jessica Rabbit well. I would have But I yeah. I'm sure we both have her. I'm telling you on this particular. Gas was famous for one or two things and that was pretty much it so Just kind of giving it away but She didn't WanNa talk about them anymore. Which is Kinda get any interview? I do I'm not putting myself. I self on your or hers level they always want to ask me about roast battle which saw what got me a lot of things but it's there's only so many ways that I can talk about it without I repeat myself as I'm sure you get sick to a degree of hey tells us about that Matt Hughes fight the fights. Anybody wants to talk about that. And that's the the thing you can do like really. Do I have to cover this people. People are wear like this big fight this weekend. Going out with McGregor and Sarojini. We're GONNA WATCH IT WE'RE GONNA watch. I'm watching my house. Oh you're not gonna go anywhere you know you have an apartment house my wife and I let me sit on the couch watching the fight. Why why don't you go awesome? What do you want to be a party now hosting a party? Not No nope not why not. Why don't you like going out because everyone's to talk to me during the fights it because since The bites like if you came over to my house to watch it I I do fuck. I'm going to ask him about that whole but you know he's here to just as a friend and wants wants to watch TV. I just want to be left alone. And I'm also the guy like Hey What time what time is it part of your place? Well pay comes on at seven so I thought everybody come around on five o'clock okay. I'M NOT GONNA make it. Why not I fights it three thirty? I'll be in front of my TV watching the first right. I'm not leaving my TV to the last over. I'm not missing if you have all the fights on the very first one on on past and I'll show up otherwise don't bother me. I gotta see every single fight why we get tickets. I'm one of the first eight people inside Eddie arena. Oh yeah something goes gets going I WANNA see it. We'll see them all every single fight like every single still still this day like we'll we'll go on the twenty twenty fifth. I had to form. I'm one of the the CYBORG fight it is cyber and bud. I'm I'm have to be there my report. Time is at three o'clock doc. I fights at four thirty if I'm not working the fight. Are we watching. Every single fight in the fights them working. I was watching the watching it as as referee Naza Fan. I will watch every single flight and complain about being there all day. Be there all night. I don't care prelims Bo. Slim's I love all the fights when I'm watching at home. I watch every single fight I I plan my day around. I going off at three thirty supposed to sail on Saturday. I might if you can't have me back because my yacht club is on the corner from my from my house. If you can't ahead me back to the dock guarantee me back the DOC by three fifteen that I can just offload a run in my car and get home by three thirty. I can't do it do we. GotTa do woodworking spinnakers. It gets a hold trainings together again. Hey man like Pfizer on. That's that's how it works in my house. I can't stand going places because everybody wants to talk to you about fights which is why I don't plan questions 'cause like this Particular gas like You know it was an eighties She wasn't a musician but Video of really giving might as well just surname at this point. She's like. Hey I you know that's thirty years ago man. I don't WanNa talk about it anymore. But it's like well what would you. There's a lot more to talk about. But like that's reference point like that's why would he knows I taught about to get people up to speed. who talking to you? We can talk about your we. We haven't even touched on your fights but we talk about your fights your Raffin you're acting But you know so that that's why I don't like to shove ask you about the huge fights but I also try and ask you questions that you haven't been asked before so you don't get I don't want you to get boards. God God I. I'll talk about kissing him that you know you know you tell that story probably a thousand times like ask you a question right now cause. I don't believe I've ever I heard this talked about. I'm GONNA give you a scenario involves raffin like because I don't think fans one thing I do like about intimate is it's it's kind had a closed. You don't know a lot about what happens behind the curtain. So let's say there's a fight Let's say in Ghana against Derrick Lewis. You're the wrath in it. Why would I be? Rafael is so boring but I well. Let's go old school scolds. Let's go because I'm a like You don't understand. I watched the first. You say you know I'm a cabbage fan cabinet striking that I really. He's back I don't like I cry either. Well I like I like do I want. I'll probably by the pay per view. Or whatever I cried. Bigfoot Silva was on top of fate or just do I really very sensitive cry a lot. Well I mean England when Tyson got beat by Douglas crying when I only cried during Tyson Douglas because I had one hundred bucks on Tyson but and you had fifty dollars in your bank account. I am sensitive because you develop a I cried when probably the first athlete I ever followed was a horse called L.. Seattle slew very e was the first triple crown winner. Like I said I recognize the name. Yeah he's very a and one of the more famous horses the last fifty years. I guess But he lost and After he won the triple crown I think it was at Santa Anita and he lost pretty badly eater chews. Cte With fighters and hockey players. I I know what's going on at CNN to get off topic. I know I love it. I Have Friends of mine that are horse breeders. And they're like none of them. We don't know what's going on. We don't know why it's the only it's has such cute horse die. I can't believe it's not a bigger story. Credible like what happened on there and and the trainers trainers jockeys don't understand it. They don't understand what's happening. Nobody can get a grasp on. Why is it happening here? And not say why isn't having Kentucky someplace. Why isn't happening in one the other why is it always here? What's the problem is going on here? I don't know I don't think anyone I saw one guy did a report on the The dirt the track the actual track. He's like well when it rains. the I'm trying to think of the The shoes they're the the CELICA on in the dirt washes away so the The surface is much much harder than anywhere else in like. That's not gonNA kill forty fucking four and a horse. A Horse can be amazed at what a horse can do especially coming to stunts. And I'm not a horse guy by any means the only I stunt. You're not GONNA be like. Hey can you know I cannot ride a horse. I can rattlers casually but I can't do stunts up a horse. You want that. You gotTA call the cowboys. I'm not one of the cowboys that what I'm not but these these guys make these horses in front rolls. They can fly sideways into all sorts of stuff. You'd be amazed horse can do at full speed and it's incredible what these animals can do who at full speed. Why dying at San Because you're falling over at full speed wise that why is that making them die? That and one of the worst. I forgive. Forgive me I forget I forget which one it was a when it was but he finished the race was walking and then just collapsed. So it's not it's not the it's not the track. There's something something else going on over there. I mean I you know I don't WanNa be like I'm not like Eddie Bravo and in the conspiracy theories. Well no I I I love that stuff. I'm not saying I'm right or wrong like But it's almost at that point where it's like. They're either shooting them up with stuff in their bodies are breaking down or Off You know there's some rogue Because there is a tremendous amount of money Involved in horseracing of ninety dollars per day. you you know I mean. My Dad was a pretty prolific. Goes back to the macgyver that he was a very prolific horse. Gambler like He. And my mom Her family owned the largest thoroughbred Training facility in the South Which is why I fell in love with horses? So much There was a white horse. I'm GonNa send you the link to this horse jet white horse and it was really the two athletes I followed I at that more than Oj. Kareem Gretzky or Seattle slew and there was a white horse named vigers. And it's thing was he would start out dead last and I mean by. He was like the White Guy in the hundred yard dash in the Olympics while he beat somebody but he's pretty far pack and he would just sprint an all. He not always win but he usually would win. It was just amazing watching this beautiful body of like just pure muscle thousands of pounds and I cried when he he started losing. I get. You're going to invest in the stuff I do. Does that does that. Emotion help your comedy or comedy. Well depends what I'm talking talking about. Okay the reason why I'm asking. I've always wanted to be an like a Sitcom I've always wanted to like one of the Sitcom sure and I just stand up for a little bit. I worked with animal. Hunter miserably like miserably bombed like not one not even gig not one in a tent set. Nothing not one fucking thing anos I an okay. Well a bomb. So it doesn't really matter. Just move on to the next one and it was like. I'm just not good at this timing thing and Atta made a comment to me was like oh you didn't you didn't dig into your motion. Just Kinda told the story you really dig into your emotion to get into to get into the story which is going to make people laugh would have gotten emotion but never other comics tummy. We're like not an argument emotion out of it right bits and do these things and he daesh Appel talks about a right. The one I write all right the ending and erected joke after. I've got the punchline. That's that's genius to me because I can't do it. Well there are several kinds of comedy like Like someone like you. I would gear into like my advice to you like I know. You don't WanNa be like a fulltime stand up but like do it if I if I get a laugh I would do what Jake. The snake. The wrestler I would recommend you do what he does Because I opened for him and I've seen thousands of shows the thousands is probably thousands of comics and his show. He did that. I open for him. It was one of the more amazing shows I've ever seen. He wasn't necessarily surly doing jokes. He was just telling stories from his days on the road with now. This is pro wrestling in the eighties. Nuts I mean he's got stories for day but I'm sure you I I mean you were in pride like I can only imagine there's really that's the thing no man is really not that many stories like it's very it's it's there's a few. Yeah but they're like doc you know. Obviously you're married like like Joan was on my story but I mean I'm not even saying sexual stories but like Jake. The snake would tell these Just twenty minutes stories about doing the road with the Rick Rude who was like one of my favorites And how is wife was divorced and and and the the the new husband drives by them on the freeway and Jake the snake. Hey Rick I think that's your car and he looks in speed up to him and it was the new boyfriend driving. It was just like so I like it when he told the story. That was so funny and I would like I would would've said forget the jokes to tell a story about maybe trading. Maybe a particular fried grabs you in the balls or whatever Because you have something that ninety nine point nine percent of comics don't have and that's an experienced at something that none of us did. Oh yeah go so. I think the crowd would like dig. That man it's com- comedy is tough. It is super fucking tough. I think it's the toughest business in the the world outside of. Maybe being a fighter. 'cause you know if you're on a ban I always say this shitty band you can turn around and blame the drummer. This guy socks. Yeah Bass player. Can't keep up with the guitar player like Chevy Comic Look in blame. The curtain caressing is. That's why I'm amazed to. Yeah that's boxing is like a team. Is there for all the riders home and get this thing put together a bounce off a couple of the people got some good ideas came out there and and pitched in it sucked. It's my fault we've could if you were this. Maybe not the greatest example. But let's say Well let's take the Aspirin Maskhadov by You know you might say that. Aspirin deny the best just Strategy to start that fight off just basically charge and put his head down he could if now I don't think he did but he's either with. My coach told me to do that. Well my Jitsu trainer told me to do well as what I was GONNA come out with a flying knee so just fuck it charged him and he could could blame someone else. Like if I bombed tonight at the comedy store I can't blame anyone. Anybody this podcast you can blame me. Well it's probably because of me but you know there are some guests who it wasn't the grace interview 'cause like I have one word answers. Yeah you know I've had musicians on But also to isn't it. Isn't it crowd. Don't you have to know your crowd and comedy like if you're if you're doing young kid jokes. Older crowd is not going to work. Okay yeah well I like. If you do like say a Jeffrey Jeffrey Epstein show which a lot of comics are doing. Just because it's like it's hot it's hot it's it's not obviously funny what was going on but You know there could. Yeah you have to know the crowd like there could be someone in the Ari. WHO's the victim of unfortunate abuse of some capacity? They're not gonNA like to joke okay You know I used to joke When I would have jokey bombed which has happened once or twice a night I would be like Oh you think that jokes too soon while I was doing nine. Eleven jokes before the second plane hit the tower always got the crowd. It always gotta laugh like one hundred percent of the time until one night guy comes up to me after the show says. Hey Earl you really funny but my brother died in tower two. You're just you say oh. Sorry jokes for you. Not that not that tower so you know but if you do like Republican jokes in Orange County which is. It's an all republican but it's it's probably really leans You you're going to struggle No the crowd But you know some crowd like Joey Dee as He's he's one of these an amazing person like yeah. That's someone who I don't know how. MMA May world is but like comedies filled with bullshitters users. I wish I'd just like yeah I can imagine but Joey's the real deal. How do you think Joe Joe Rogan so comfortable? Same Shit like I love Joe Joey and Joe because they call you out on the bullshit that oh how scared were you for College Mencia. When when he still rogan stuff? Well I'll give you this. He stayed up there like You know Joe but once again joe is the only one who everyone Numancia stole jokes anybody. Everybody did I mean it was. I don't I it'd be like in the anime world You know I mentioned over him. You know I would assume most people in the in the anime community okay. You don't go from two. Oh five two to sixty five you know with no body fat. Like what's going on here. Josie only one called now. Carlos had a policy with them that night. That's something that's not really talked about. He had like A. I don't WanNa say gang but like four or five of his home is and Jake I think joe is I mean. Of course. Joe Is protected at the comedy store. Just because he's Joe Joe is up there pretty much alone and You know it's but I don't think Mencia care like noise. He's getting paid. He is now he's getting paid now and it kind of kind of set the beginning of the end for him showing off the air and then everything else happened after that. He's what's he doing now. I haven't heard anything. I mean. He still does comedy. You know. That's the weird thing comedy is. There's a misconception of if you you and it's probably a degree like bigfoot Silva still fights but you never really hear about it you know I. It's funny I found that out in acting so a friend of mine. Sean Patrick Flannery. He's Boondock Saints Opposite Norman and he trained with me at my gym down. Go when we had it back in you know in the in the late nineties early two two thousand and he just for a little bit. He has his own Jitsu Academy and I worked as a stuntman. I worked on a on a horror film with him and I was a Shaun interview memory furniture. Whatever I'll do remember whatever? Rabbi Tom Eddie. My double-leg we caught up. Whatever as I've seen forever like what are you? What are you doing is I'm still acting so I do? I haven't really done anything. Big since boondock saints too. So what's doing or powder pilots after that. He's he's like a work all the time. I in constantly working as an actor after I was straight. DVD straight streaming. Netflix rate. The he's like he's like I'm a really good living. Some place in in southern California. Have a huge ranch down down in Houston have two schools to Jitsu schools at that. Pay Do just enough to pay the bills. It'll work out at it because that's kind of what's going on. He goes that but I work all the time. I was like the first time I was like just. Because you don't see somebody doesn't mean they're not working. Oh Yeah I mean One of my favorite probably my favorite boxer and once again I I cried when Larry Holmes was just fucking destroying the sky. Tex Cobb who you'll after that fight he got more born to act in any way but he still fought but no he. He would do these kickball. He was like a world class kickboxing but he would fighting like the country club in Reseda. which was a very famous Music Club but they would also have like at the time it kickboxing events CARE ATOP is a guy who do you know we had that one movie chairman of the Board which you know probably didn't do very well Any kind of in the public eye disappeared. He Plays Vegas biggest every weekend makes millions. He has a here's a residency at the luck sir. You still have three doors for me when I was in Vegas I seem all time talking Takayoshi stories saying the guy that got big all of a sudden that pool. I mean what is what you get. I don't WanNa get sued here but I we're not necessarily talking about carrot top but when a let's sit this grocery trig views used about the Sarah minor minor alone and nobody else maybe say it nor are they responsible about to say that. I was on steroids. Okay I saw him in. He'd legitimately we grew twenty five pounds in a week and still has no legs. It was all shoulders and arms or like holy crap. This guy is swollen. Like what is that like like growth hormone or is it no. I mean it could be anything because member in that. So and are part of Agassi's up towards Summerlin. I don't know if he still lives there now from years since then. But he's live up near but also to Jay Cutler was and all the bodybuilders were up to some inside because this is where everybody trained out of. If you I want to be good. As a bodybuilder lived in Vegas at the time Jay Cutler was the guy chasing so everybody would follow wherever he was training it would follow. Everyone always tremendous amazingly huge six. Three three hundred pounds shredded big ASS bodybuilders. Girls were six two six one two twenty five to thirty five shredded. We're going doing doing pilates. Like what are you doing. Plots because Jay Cutler said it's great for your ABS Long. Lean lean out these ads ads ads for j hard for him to come in do applaud. His I was always bottles. Goes doing plot plotting classes. You're like what the hell is that. Going against. When during the corners like fresh bodybuilding? That's what they're doing. Everybody followed suit so up in that area it could have been and anything. I have no idea what he was on my guess. My uneducated unsolicited advice. Probably Hugo and probably decker wynstrol thrown him. That's is probably what he was doing a doing a full stack eight weeks on and doing six or eight weeks. Often they come back. And that's just kind of. Seems like what he was doing because he was getting jacked and shredded every single time. I see he'd be drafting shredded cheese. Like what the hell. Why can I get on that cycle while because I'm getting drug tested? Well that's another thing. I don't get drug tested but I feel guilty. Recent not many comics workout. There's I would say me I trying to say what's his name Rogan Lewis Black as a workout. Yes instruction trump. I would care top I would say CHAPELLE works out. You could tell. He's Pretty Jack for calm. Now I'm saying for commack Mike. Yeah but that's you talking about bodybuilding. I'm such a fan of the fucking eighties. Like I remember. Just being obsessed with Tom platz Who was the guy with the biggest legs of all time like they were just And he had a big upper body but like his life is the opposite. The character that's why he couldn't win my legs misreporting. It was everybody all the time. Yeah the big ones you like and inspiring out years. Later that Schwarzenegger had implants lance put his cavs because he couldn't get captured coming right and then when he found out as a kid in the eighties. You found a kidney eighty eight that Hogan was doing steroids member that we can blow in your mind. What do you need to do? is He's taking his vitamins and plan his prayers and he's my brother like what's happening like dude. This is. My favorite guy was the ultimate warrior like he was like the poster boy for two hundred and eighty five pounds fucking square inch of fat on every day every time every time on. TV just early in rainy. What the Hell is going on? I get sad with pro wrestling guy and I know you had had You know experience with TNA on impact natural impact on October now. Did you find it because is there are some anime Guys I mean obviously WAS PROB is probably the most famous example but tank Abbott. I know when to density W can share maximum pro wrestling right now. These oh still actually worked WanNa work on impact that work a gimmick with him and Moose us were trained musette ready for this fight against candidate. Belinda full progressing matching. And whatever happened. The Gimmick is and and Ken was like what are you doing. He's in Kenley Shredded Ken. Ken is in the best best shape of his life. especially if he's ever been in better shape when he was doing drugs and they'll tell you I was. You Know Shit Steroids and did a bunch on drugs and drinking alcohol and like just ruined my life and I when I was fighting those and then I got married got kids and now he's very much straight lay straight line no drugs no alcohol and works out all the time and he is shredded. I saw him with his shirt. I'm like Whoa like you're in better shape. Now they were fighting against. You gotta be in shape because no matter what you think. This stuff hurts at some point point you get hurt. You're gonNA miss a Rinpoche. You're GonNa miss the Ring Pat and hit the post to get your ice great down supposed to be fake but all of a sudden you face put on the ring rope you get dragged down it Guy Mrs Misses a drop kick misses a child. You know you'll get hurt so you gotta be in shape to not get hurt and my dude. Look you are incredible. Something better shape now than when I was doing drugs. autozone better well. I mean I I've always laugh at people who say it's fake. I mean it may be scripted show but you know you look at like You know staying my favorite pro wrestler and you know Gosh it you be real estate Steve. Well I cried. I heard that story. No limits thing thing I was TNA and you met sting yeah. I'm Steve for Steve for a long time before. So this guy's GonNa Laugh My Nativity so I was NTN A in the locker room with with With Kurt Angle. Who I was minimum? It was hit the Gimmick. Was He'd go beat up. Aj off camera behind the scenes. Whatever they get mad and he he see me loan stuff from the trunk of the car? See Let me get ready to work out from behind cup and beat me up and hit me and so I was always taking the beating that that Kurt was supposed to get whatever that was a gimmick but so I see Stephen and we had talked before her independence. Here separately you know about real estate. And he made some real estate investments. And that's what he was doing with this money. And he would you know flipping houses. You can fix them up and keep them. I'm and run out and then he would rent them for more than the mortgage payment and this is back when I don't understand anything about real estate. So he was like give me real good education. Now listen he's sitting locker room in Orlando Getting Ready for a taping for TNA and he's like McKay see we go. Hey what about what I've been and I come in. He's put his makeup on no fucking clue he was staying. Had No idea you can shit in the locker room completely. Lost my shit. Total fan boy out kind of percents. Holy Fuck your stink. I couldn't fucking believe leave it. That he was staying. I had no could not put the two together at no idea. No clue so again like I thought you knew who do you again. I had no fucking idea that you wish I had no clue with dude. That's funny as Shit. I thought that's why you're talking to me. Your fighter and our PA- wrestlers on MAGNA had no idea no clue I mean when he went to w. w. wood which was a a big fucking deal because he was the only guy and you know who didn't go. He's I'm reborn Christian or your storylines on from anymore. Yeah Yeah you know Semi life anymore and then they just in his first match fucking buried him. Yeah triple H and unforgiving. WWE's unforgiving they don't give a shit well it it Kinda gets me into like. Maybe we'll say how possibly certain organizations might be that in the world but like to me. It's it's like the you know the skies wrestling beyond a legend. I don't know what the next thing is. Yeah we'll see what what who the bigger wrestlers. I was an sting Hogan might be considered bigger. You might consider Andre. The giant early flair obviously is the biggest says flare is the biggest star. caressing has ever had he by far and away question. Buddy iron sheik and Serge's slapper. He killed all those guys thing was way better gimmick than. It's still today people's trying to win. Extent I think is his problem was he never went to the. WWe In his physical prime like there were so many the matches like the undertaker him wanted to spend crazy You know so by the time you went to wwe and he's certainly not like ancient. He's fifty four for button wrestling. That's fucking four hundred years old and then they just buried the guy and to your point. Yeah there are some organizations like at the. US's number one at that Berry you sign up for the UFC and not do not so. At first I thought they were just being mean they WANNA get rid of everybody kind of like just prove the biggest show in town. No that's Joe Silva. He's not retired as as a matchmaker. He's since retired. He made a Chitwan of money for the FCC and they pay them out when the buyout and then he's gone he's retired smart good could for him he set it up. He tells you he would sign you. You can throw the wolves. There is no easy match. FC Not one person you come in twenty thirty now look at the shorter Torres. Jose Torres from from Chicago. He comes in. He's he's like his amateur record was like twenty one twenty two and then when he was five dollars a pro and in a smaller ladies and comes in a UFC and loses in goes Goes two and three what happened. No easy fights. That's the way that place is set up. That's the way that promotion up there fights. Nobody gets it tomato Ken. Nobody gets easy fight. Everybody gets thrown to the wolves but then when they say that they have the best fighters there's a little bit too that clean because all their fighters have been put the fire every single fight. There hasn't been like a boxing set of a guy who talked about early daylight though these fights zip these guys are trying to build up trying to records up trying to get him going on Friday night like he's trying to get these guy set up so that later you can go yet guys twelve searching or no. He's got you know whatever six six knockouts to start putting this guy to work you know. He's got he's got a reputation now and I'm amazed don't do that. Everyone gets thrown to the wolves every fight. You take another may be one of the world's the Sita's a really good job of telling you that when you walk in the door you WANNA sign with US tough fight right off the bat you know. WHO's no way class? You know who's who have signed who you when you come in one hundred percent you don't of the world's we WanNa Masih you could rise the top of it. The other promotions. Don't tell you that but every promotions like we got to put you to the top we got to put you in the game for signing you if we resting dollars in you investing marketing marketing money. And you want to spend our time on you. You Better Pan out you gotta make us money to make us money. You GotTa win fights if you can't be this guy out. This is how it goes. Well has a fan. I do kind and I liked what they did with listener. Aren't you on Mr Pro Wrestler. You don't want to be in our Playpen he tarangire. I fight like like if he's Harry's your worst fight a your car that you've been through the ring because he was pretty good like when he thought he was still still rate talent of his prime but still it. All right. We're GONNA get Frank Mir twice you're GONNA get lost the first time but let me get has a raft. It's like And I want to get back to my wild scenario. Yes all right you know at some point you have to leave Like in that first last tair ever well might have sit there and kick out A lesser was Probably on his way to beating Lena and then there's a few heads to the back of the head and they they re. I think it was a Mazda. God He might have been. My shooter was They he stopped the fight and then they restarted. And then that's when Miriam in the toehold I think Niba A. D. O. D.. Hold yet both. No you're right correct Like A has a wrath. Would you have stopped that. I know you probably haven't seen the fight in a minute but like do you like there was so much marketing behind that fight with Mir nine. This is where I think the of see him as kind of like comedy where like they want someone to win. They want them to win Less than that probably would have been a good luck for Mr. WW come in being the ex champ. They you start to fight Mir does what he does like. Would you stop the fight. No do you take the wrath was under pressure of Jesus stopped us. That was a hit to the back of the head so I can you say this about Steve. He did he really get a bad rap. Really did try to get better at refereeing and then got got pulled from roughing. He came back and reinvent himself. Offers a judge because he really wanted to be around the sport. It wasn't a guy that was just doing it for the glory doing it to be on. TV He really wanted he really loved enemy. Really thought there's a position for him so he's like look you guys are GonNa let me Judge uh-huh yes gonNa let me wrap. I'm going to become a judge GONNA learn to be become a judge and do these things and make things work for whatever reason. I'm not really sure was it was was it was it the. UFC and Dana saying want. This guy wasn't he just really sucked. I don't know because I don't work in Nevada as referee judge. So I don't really know Whoa what fights. He was one and what happened to him but then when that when that was over when judging was over I went to a fight Nevada. He's a timekeeper. I'll make Steve humbling thing. It is to come in as one of the wraps that they use every single time they were fighting Nevada to being the guy that you get ostracized out that you get removed and Luger roughing license. That's a come back in and get a judging license to move from that now been kicked out twice with from from the commission in the sport for you to come back to be a timekeeper. Thank you a lower. But it's the third position right. That is super humbling. And he does it with a smile on his face and doesn't care because he's in their steve really cares about anime. He really wants to be in this part of the sport. Do I agree with the decision to stop step down as a as a referee absolutely I do. He was making mistakes. He could've correct them. He could've went and took a course went through Jani or her course and learn how to be better referee did it. It just didn't happen from at that point during that fight right. I don't remember it clearly in my head but I will tell you this it was Maserati. I'm looking okay. So it's intent the back of the head. We're going to watch this for those of you at home I I'm showing up Frank The fight less Nur's it is pretty much winning the fight. And then let's let's Mir roll up on him and get that new bar that's very android there the top now right before this there was a few. I don't want to say light shots. There's nothing like that especially especially from listener kind of like a fifty fifty. I like heads to the back of the head. Like do you think he was under under tremendous pressure of. I don't stop this Fi. Do so so who who hit. Who in the back of Listener Mir in the back of that was while he was hitting him in the the face? And then there's like maybe a couple in the back of the head and then he'd go back to the face and like okay so here becomes the issue so I'm sorry because we did. He stood back up again soon. Back up again underneath them up. And that's what's so. My Assumption is guiding the protocol I'd added like I said I don't know what happened. Don't don't blow me up. Don't yell at me. Don't start calling me names and bullshit. There are trolls out. Every time I start talking about another referee or another fire is lit up by everybody. I'm talking about trolls. Promotions heads. The promotions will call me. You can't say that you can't get lit up. I always the people I percents stuff like. I said we started. So what my sumptious says. Is They went. Why am I gonNA head stopping him to the back of the head? And then he saw a second or third shot by for the warning and went. Okay Stop Time separate back of the head. What's the intent? Is the way you intentionally trying to him. In the back of the head was uh-huh Mir moving his hat so in our pre fight that we talk about we go into the prefight. Here's the rules. Here's what I'm looking for as you referee tonight so I'm looking for one of the things I say days. Look inside. You haven't under Hook on the far side you're inside Mount Your Punch the crap out of them the turns his head and you hit him in the back of the head. I'm going to warn a new for hitting him in the back of the head. But that's a Mulligan that's on him. He caused that to happen. He turned his head. But now you know he's GonNa turn as we throw a punch I know he's in. He's in attorneys turnaround. We throws a punch which now tells me you have to keep illegal if you hit him in the head again. I'M GONNA stop. I'm a call time. I'm a stand up and make you lose the position. which is what happened? And that's how that's how it should go. I've warned you of giving you the soft money back a washes position. Now giving you the finger wag the Mama Finger Wag. Hey why so back of the head you hear US yell at on Okay Okay Stop Time. Let's get up and change his position. The penalty is the separate. You from the position if I think you purposely held us facing position and welcome in the back of the head. I'm taking a point if you being agreed about how you hit this guy in the back of the head. I'm taking two points. You are intended to hit this guy the back of the head and you doing it with severe intentioned and you're being egregious I'm taking two points that's how it has to work that's how it goes Mazza Guide and take appoint them up and said look. This is a position that he was supposed to head. You gotTA stand him up. It doesn't matter so the cool thing is is that you can be under pressure from the promotion. Most people don't know how this works. You can be under pressure from promotion that a particular threat or win. We don't work promotion. We work for the commission. Now it gets convoluted when like in in in whatever they go someplace Brazil. It has a commission right. I'm thinking about my buddy that's A. That's a judge down there Brazil has commissioned. Don't think they don't have a commission. They have a commission the seat goes on and there's no commission in Brazil. They bring Marc Ratner in to help. Set it up. And they and they bring their own inspectors. They bring in their own judges. They know they get lined up with the referees while bother allowing lined up you technically work for the commission that's doesn't exist which is the commission so then technically you work for the UFC but regardless of where you are what you do. You don't really work for the Motion Ocean you work for the commission but the but the promotion pays your fee so they have to give a check to the commission to pay you at the end of the night so you still working for the promotion. It's a really weird kind of situation. In California. The promoter an appeal work for work for the promotion cannot are not supposed to speak to me about something. They don't feel like his right. The elitist factor or the executive officer. If he's if he's present during the event they go talk to him and relayed. Hey you screwed up on this you fix this in California when you walk out of we walk out of the ring or the cage we get out. We walked down the next referee. Coming will let you know. Hey rush into this better villa. AWW and so like when I walk when when when Belcher walks out he merely looks at me. Hey did I do. Okay Yeah great at Matt. I feel like I felt like I was. I was one step behind. I stopped due to his no way Jason Hers who did ask her Mazda as well he is still I try to. I try to ask him. Matt Doughty howdy fight. I was like wow. That's that's another fight. So when he he basically the only way he could have been there faster is if he really went. Are you ready to fight for. Are you ready to fight. Fight that's fights over. That's the only way he could have been there faster. He was in perfect position but he is still eats up today. That Masdar was able to get one extra hidden after you knock him out. That's still eats them up. And that's the reason. Why hers is legit only one of the best referees in the entire world because he has that kind dedication those guys is who are obviously my superiors roughing when they come in and they come out they still look to me as a peer? They'll look to me as an as an underlying. Hey what do you think and we. We talk to each other about what happened. What went on so we know we walk out of that case for the first part of the night that we have to rough that we still have three tonight that we know that we're doing okay? We're on we're on track. You know I've pendants. I've been in events where a reference come in a very high big named high profile referee has come in out of the fight in but like I'm not feeling tonight when you sit down. Can you guys go ahead and cover the rest of my fights and switch in one of the guys that might bell who refs and judges switch him out having come in a rough one. He's gotta stuff. I'll go sit down and judge. I'm not feeling it tonight. I don't WanNa make a mistake. Not WanNa ruin. Somebody's career ruin. Somebody's life a ruin. Somebody's health so let me get out of this and this is what we state of California. I can't speak to every but for every other state I can tell you in California. This is what we do we watch out for each other and we take we screw up. We met hey we screwed up. God forbid any fosters there who's the executive officer for California and you screw up. He's GonNa tell you when you walk out of the cage. He's intelligent motivate. We know that you screwed up and they tell everybody else that we're GONNA be talking about that particular instance in in the post fight Meeting afterwards the fights are over and done. I'm going home getting their drinks. The refs the judges the Tunky inspectors all have to go in the back and have a post fate meeting and talk about what happened. What went on and if you WANNA screw something up you're GonNa get brought brought to task in front of everybody when you screw up so it makes it super easy like Oh this is great? Okay it makes. It makes it super easy. Everybody knows what the mistake is. Everybody understands how you felt about the mistake. Every understands how to fix the mistake and you are now educated needed and what you need to do to fix that mistake. You Lilly ref the next night and have that exact same scenario happened and he will do it better because of the way. Any foster has set up the protocols for this particular piggly thing for in in California which he got he just got recognized as the best commission for boxing remaining in the entire country because of the way he says these things up so we go with a guy like like the he might be pressure from him back. Then we want we want a lizard to win. We don't want to win. It doesn't matter. I don't work for you. You're not my boss US right now. Who is my boss? Delete Inspector and the executive officer of the of the commission now as some commissions some notions whether it be k- to the Cusco brothers others or golden boy or or. UFC or ballatore doesn't matter some promotions. Have that Kinda pull where they can. Kind of control the commission as well even notice a real illegitimate legal commission. They still have that kind of power because they bring us so much money when Dana White Center while ago when she comes in. It's a ten dollar boosts the economy every time they come in for a fight. Don't you want ten million dollars to your economy. Of course you do so you you're going to cater to them. You gotta listen to them but you also have to be able to stand up and be. Hey look rough made a good call that a good thing. This is the the reason why I talk to them. And sometimes the Zeta officers just aren't strong enough to do that. And so they kind of kind of pushed over when something happens by one of the promoters and then the promoters. I just have to then kind of the wraps in the next time that promotion comes back. The state that particular raft doesn't get used and the promotion has full rights to not use a referee for it. They can actually say. I don't WanNA use that referee. He screwed up toys before we mess up. What does I don't WanNA use them? Take them off the rest and at and that's totally possible to me. I was assigned to U. OF C.. Like maybe you've seen one nine nine you'll see two hundred something like that. Maybe not two hundred big. That was a big one. Whatever was something I got assigned to it and like an hour and fifteen minutes later? I'm calling the executive officer officer after I got the assignment. Tobacco got this great great assignment. As I'm looking at my APP tells me an assignment off. Hey what happened. I do something wrong. No no pushy. The young. That's just what it is. Okay that's it. That's just how it goes and go I have I have fighters don't want me to. Their fights just grudges from the past. Whatever better? Whatever reasons they don't they don't like how how I read one of their fights? They'll like how I rough one of their friends fights. They feel like that. Fridays are super. Should we stations the super. You're superstars. They tell their up but their superstitions. Okay should have a podcast. Why would interview fighters before fights healings on it and they were like Oh you interviewed me and last time I interviewed me like a CPA do agree with me really? The last time that he did an interview with me. He lost next week. This is not. He will not superstitious interview them. That it's a problem. I have fighters like no you raft. Tell me honestly thereby fighters were very honest with each other. We try to hire. You don't like somebody. Are you telling you to like him. You don't go O'hare nice to see when you walk away like that motherfucker a piece. They don't do that. We did it right to your face so come in Miami roughing. Oh is is is an issue when my buddy he lost and this is how he lost. I'm like how it is. Okay hold on let me go. Let me go talk to lead inspector. Let me see we can make a change because your company being Europe. Hold on what you look. Let's go see leave spectre can we make a change because you want me to Russia's fight because this this leaders Spector who is my boss on that night. We'll go. nope yours referee. He's got deal with it or they'll go. Yeah you know what we're GONNA make a change. Can swap you in belt transplant. These to fight for no big deal. And that's how it's very simple as fighters have the right right to choose to pick. A different referee comes in promoters. Have the right to pick different referees. Don't like the rest when they show up in this state is completely. It's completely honest and you can say. Hey you are ready for the big time and I'm roughing Beltran I'm roughing. UFC in these events. I am there. I am sitting there in the eye on on TV. I'm doing these events they can come up to you and say hey look Due to the rotation you should have this title fight. You should have the CYBORG Bud. Talbert Fidel to do the way the rotation she works. You're not ready yet. So do is going to give you the swing belt. So it's that's the main event. There's a co main event. TRICIA called swing by which the fight that may have made pay view if it wasn't running over but may not think about anymore. There's no fight that kind of gets held out it. Do we're GonNa put you on that fight. Okay that's decision. You guys are outside my box ax looking into the box. You see my my level you see how good I am. You understand my passion for the sport you understand how referee Ym. And you know that. I'm not ready for that. Fight then I you have to trust you to know that I'm not ready for don't make don't get your ego and away don't get upset. Don't get mad. Just move on okay up that despite this word is and tell you like they let you know hey rotation you should have despite despite. You're not ready yet. Okay good and you never know what he'd been reading. It's not like hey timothy be ready for refrigerator reading. Give me ready when you're ready okay. I'm down here. But here's the thing about him. The May in boxing that price that you get paid changes significantly. I go from making three thousand dollars a night to making twenty five thousand dollars in but it's it's a big significant change in May I'm GonNa make a might make one thousand nine hundred or two thousand if I do the title fight. I'm EK seventeen hundred and fifteen hundred if I don't it doesn't doesn't matter. It's not that big. It's a couple hundred bucks who cares. It doesn't matter right so it's not that big of a deal so no one gets to ego in a way we don't get charged up is a big deal. I gotta I gotTa hadn't hadn't who fucking cares still. What do you know what you're wrapping this Saturday? I won't know until I show up. They will they will release the main event. Nicole made event which my suction option is going to be belchamber men event and hers. We'll get Komeito event. That's the assumption. But I also don't know who also is rafting that night I know Blake Rice's flying in from Carolina Carolina who does a lot of work for us here and he's a senior official to me as well so I'm fourth on the poll. I we'll have a we'll have a TV five hundred seventeen because there's fights on TV. Which one I don't know the first one the third one it will be one and it won't be the good because those will go to the guys with more senior? I'm not I'm just not there. That's just how it works at. That is really the progression grushin going back to our originally about fighters and make good judges and good referees now is financial now is the time but then once you get the Parang she got one hundred amateur bouts. What's in they've given to your pro license here? Here's an interesting story. Pardon after for comedy show though Oh I love it so well did we. Are we on time pin shooting sued. We've got every now and then I like to wear at the two hour. Mark Geddes is easy. Like I can no no. I don't want you to do. I can do podcasts. All along I have no problem. uh-huh yeah I do. This has been. I haven't been told that since I was six but like the only reason I even before you get to your story the only reason I referenced. The Leisure Mir air-fight Is 'cause I'm trying to get the fans to realize the pressure restaurants Kahsmir had I got the feeling he maybe burn bridges with the U. of let's see with the capacity. Yeah and now. He's a Bell Tower. And it's it's a little weird and then listener was like It kind of They wanted him to win in my opinion just like the fight. This Saturday with Sironi McGregor I to me and my opinions are of course. The moneymaker but like to me they're throwing Surani to the wolves like this guy's a fucking soldier no but that's the thing that's thrown as not being thrown to the wolves. Is this a great fight this match make wise this great fight but like but also to of Surani wins. What's going to happen that's my money rematch? So means more money for everybody involved. If it's tough like like I just don't like this guy has been a loyal company Dude. I'm sure it could have gone to Bella. L. A. Towards some point or you know I'm old school I'll say strikeforce. Oh yeah they had the Maybe the grace announcing team ever Gus Johnson College Football Guy Frank Shamrock with the brace do that was awesome like I honestly like. When that whole mayhem Miller Diaz brothers thing abby Johnson's this is like gentlemen we're on TV? I Love Shit like that but like at some point. Somebody say shutters Mike as a fan of sororities like this is bullshit bullshit and I know he's making money like a you know he strikes me as the type of he still fights for the love of the game. Oh yeah sure if I could make hundreds of thousands or whatever he's getting great but like they clearly want McGregor to win so they can possibly build up a Kabri matchup I am I wrong. No no you're right. You're right but the fights go all the way the fight falls. The price could be used to be as real as I guess. That's what it used to be on their on their campus. This is legit. It's going to happen. It's going all the way to fight is gonNA fall with Balladur. We'll okay sits here with the not with them but like it's working like I would guess it Mr Coker to win it'd be because if she loses it say. Oh we're just like when we spend all this money on some is about to leave when she lost a Nunez his money on her to fight to be this great fighter noon as it's the same thing and every promotion you've got gotcha favorites you children. It's what it is it doesn't matter it's what it is but it doesn't really matter they're still going to go to. Your parents are still going to die view if they have to. But there's still a favorite favorite but sometimes I don't do well. It's just how it is. Sometimes the ferris a drug addict prison entire life. That's just how it works but has a raff now like let's just say European Saronic. McGregor you go into that fight. You have an inkling in clean. Maybe that the promotion might be rooting for McGregor. Show you have an inkling but you just don't care but to you. Does that affect the pressure. Like let's let's say Sarony who's not necessarily numbers. Ko Power but like he's still capable of let's say he's got McGregor on the ground he's just killing them. Do you start to think. Jesus I wonder if I stop this no. I don't speak if myself right. I don't I don't know what anybody else thinks. I know that for me. I do not think that I do not pick that pressure. I don't care about what they got to say. I don't care who they want to win. I don't care about ain't stuff what I care about is further safety job. I'm not in there to fight in their to stop you from doing fouls referees job isn't they they don't especially the NFL because the playoffs coming up here pretty soon. The Rep the refs in the line judges for NFL NFL going to say fight NFL match catch game. They don't stand there and go penalty. For throwing thirty touchdown pass nose clean. There was good. Why by stop it the only time they blow the whistle or the flag is when something is wrong? They're there for fighter safety helmet-to-helmet holding things do you damage cut blocking blocking the back like all these things. They're they're it's it's it's player safety. That's what the Russian Jersey therefore players say yes empire strikes and all that stuff. Whatever Boban shirt but it's also player safety see something illegal going on out? There was a bad example. Because things happen baseball it's illegal is usually caught months later like with Houston and the red SOx getting caught for months later they find out later. But they're there for fighters safety my job. As far as safety if I'm refereeing SIRONI money and McGregor and Macgregor's taking a pounding and I have verbiage. There's verbiage that you have to say And we say this back to our prefabs as in the preflight So you're looking forward. If if you hear me say move and you show me move. He just show me still want to be in this fight. Show me want to be in this fight. You may say something like that. Give me some kind of movement. You don't need to give me thumbs up you look. You're okay keep defending. I know what the defense looks like. I know what the movement looks like. But you gotTa Move Right tells me that your head may not be working with your hands anymore. We've got to think about stopping this fight. If you hear me say I'm looking to stop. Despite you gotTa Move Right now. I am walking into. Stop the fight so you gotta give me a big motion to show. Tell me your head and your hands are still coherent otherwise to me. You're you're you're taking enough damage where I can stop this. The only time I get into a problem is when I step in and I don't say anything but I had to stop the fight because a bunch of already come and that happened in the Bell Tower fight I fought in Hawaii. Big News report on it. It kind of went it went viral a little bit it because during the fight the guy got knocked out clean. Act Out right so I step in to fight off. I literally although the little guys so I although the other his opponent off and he flies halfway across the rain because he whatever hundred twenty five pounders I knew amount the guy. That's that's been knocked out and I had my neon but I'm not honest above him to keep from sitting because he just a huge head trauma elbow to the head against caged on China. Hold him down I hated okay. Let let DOT com. What are you talking about? He's trying to reach. Grab the CAJA pulling stuff up. I'm good what are you doing to fight what happened. What's going to make hold on fights over you got knocked out? I needed to take a look at you. The doctor will be here in a second. Take a look at. You gotta comes over and go. Hey still trying to sit up you got got got got walkaway. Whatever Blah Blah hands raised by goes over a lot of my friends had some food next day? Ed I get a message message from him. I went back and looked at the fight. Dave stopping the fight. Not only did you save me. In that fight you have lengthened my career because you know let me take more damage. Thank you so much I read my wife was like you've gotTa reposted. It was a private. I don't WanNA riposte. I WANNA just want to keep it to myself. But it's very should I know it's the one time a reference getting impreza wrestling. We get praised going to let the other s out there that they they can read this and understand that these fighters are thinking about them even though they've got the note. It'll help other referees. I I posted it kind of went. Viral got picked up by everybody and it went on his thing. But it's to the point of. I'm only in there for fighter safety. I don't care how to fight is going. I don't care what's happening to fight. I don't care who wins or loses. I'm on both guys. We had a fight later on. Both guys will go on and be able to continue and they were able to do this because I'm able to McGregor's taking the kicking I give 'em the warning show me that you're able to fight. Show me you want to be in this fight. I'm looking to stop the fight. He gives you no motion stopping the fight. I don't care who they want to win. It doesn't matter what matters to me as he's spiders are able to go home. Have a course get cut you know. Of course they get beat up if they don't tap on of course they're going to bring their although they don't tap on on a camera on a plot of course they're going to get broken. It's the way it is but it's not gonNA kill him right. It's nasty looks weird on TV. Looks discussing makes you one of them a little bit. But they're not going to die from it. Then go right. In the back they had doctors ringside taking care of the transport at the hospital. They'll get x rays. Do the surgery right away. It'll be fine. It's not that big. It's not really really honestly. It's not that big of a deal. I wanted to be able to continue on with their careers. If you let a guy a bunch of had damaged you let it go take a bunch of beating guy get beat up all the time you get thrown to the wolves get you know get hit a bunch of damage on his feet. Never Fall Down like like Ray Mercer vs Tommy Gun. He kept rate kept smacking. He'd hit him in. The left and Tom would fall to the right. He'd be almost out of the ground he hit him with a right right. Sent a backup again. He follow lefty. He hit that guy he had. Tommy probably fourteen or fifteen times and the REF couldn't stop it because back. Then you gotta wait till the guy hit the chemistry I come now. Boxing's chain getting away with off right away like the guys taking too much damage. He wouldn't fall out. Tommy's legs wouldn't let them fall down so as a result Ray Mercer beat the limit piss autumn. There's nothing you do to stop to stop it. Fighter safeties change it's a ball especially MMA. It's evolved now at Macgregor's taking a beating or cerrone is taking a beating doesn't matter you jump in you. Stop the fight. The one thing we have to have the skin because you are GONNA get booed you're GonNa get yelled at you. Didn't get mother fucked on the Internet. You think it yell at all time and you gotTa have skin so when I first started roughing like. Hey are you okay with this because I had a couple of booze rights I have messed up fights but I've not messed up the decision of the fight. I've caused mistakes to happen in a fight but nothing because the wrong person to win the right person always want no matter what I did okay so I've been very blasted been very lucky in that mindset but you still get booed and when you got it's it sounds weird but you're a small hall in his Fa- you from stand up comedy. You got fifty people bring you. It's way lower than fifteen thousand people during you in a bigger arena or should a little small room. Like Wow Malik really screwed up so I walked out. Who runs cameras? Like hey you okay I told you you're getting booed like you okay with this your cable this. Jt Ever See me. Fighting was yeah. Wash your face and I ever been before. Ever he's like. Oh no you got booty entire time but yeah I played. He'll the entire time I fought because heels. How you get paid aide? I played the hill. Boone doesn't bother me I could give two shits. It doesn't bother me I want. I don't care it doesn't affect me. Why does it affect me because I? It's a gimmick. I got booty entire time anyway and because I had to take John Course twice pass it and I know how hard it is to be roughly the judge. Now that I'm doing it. I realized that ninety five percent of the people boom. You have have no idea what just happened. They have not even watching watching the fight. They have no idea. They're getting a beer. They weren't paying attention. If you look around at the crowd like next time you gotta live fight. Look them out of the crowd at a bigger not in a little small shows not the ones in Burbank. The ones down in San Diego but the big shows like the ones in a bigger and I get the forum or staples or at Anaheim honest center. You'll get one of those fights you look look around your realizing you just look at one section you realize like legit fifty percent of the people in Washington fight there on the phone talking to screw around the here. Oh hell bud a big sheep jump start. They do exactly whatever. The crowd is. Oh I was going to happen and then look up they see the replay. Oh that was great. That was great. Yeah you're right you're right great but there there. You know what I'm saying so it's like most people don't even pay the fight to me when you bring me do you really honestly even now. What the hell just happened even have a clue what just happened like? Oh whatever boo boo they see the replay guy got a straight nut shot. Straight nut shot wasn't even trying to hit in the leg straightness shots here at the center. I'm suddenly like Oh yeah good job. Good job the two questions to wrap this up. No five t well the tape burn out. So let's say Aref in Guy Who's known as a dirty fighter I know was an honorable fighter in terms of dirty fighters. We do. We do have them Well I WANNA go to one particular guy I might be fucking up as I Paul Hartness Reuss is it. He was the guy with the leg locks he would hold onto the leg lodge. Oh Yeah Bruce Maher Paul Hart Parr so say you're epping has a kind of leads into my second question. Do you go into his locker room before the fight and go. Hey Hey did not tonight like when you know. He's probably going to be dirty so I don't say much when I when I referee Are Are you ready. Are you ready fight. But I'm talking about before the fight. No no this is this is. I'm backstage now okay. This is my pre fry understand. Dan I don't say much when we fight. If you hear me say I'm looking stopped the fight you hear me say a show me want to be in here. Here's the things we talked about him to that point. If if you hear me say stop I need you to stop. especially if you have a submission on I need you to stop at that point. I had determined that you have done so oh good at this fight that you're is now defenseless and I am now there to defend him. I will do whatever I have to do to get you off. If you hold onto the submission like Paul Harrison against this jake shields kept that come around too long then I am going to gouge you bite you punching them out do whatever I have to to save his shoulder to save his knee. Save his nut. I am the guys and he mortified is now. I've seen my fights and you know how violent I can be so you understand. It's not going to bode well for you. I will do what I need to to get you off. Offer him and then doing fine a suspended by the commission and more than likely because you had this conversation. We'll have legal problems as well. But what do you mean legal problems because I want you to do this if you do it your opponent. I'm GonNa tell him when I go to the corner. Your opponent has has complete rights to see you civilly for fucking them up if you fuck them up one hundred percent. Yeah because I warned you not to do this thing if you do this thing. Now we're GONNA heat. Where in a heated problem and we have fighters are like that and we use Paul Harris's the example? We have no he he did that to jake shields and he also Jon Fitch showers say he He caused John had to have surgery out it Ten months. He's at ten months. Because you have surgery and there was another fight I might be wrong in the organization. I want to say world series But he he did the same thing. And it's like Jesus this is. This is knowing knowing jitsu places like coming in like a competition jujitsu competitor coming coming in like Jay's electro hurt you but is he like at some point. He's he's dirty he's he's dirty so he's just like Oh what are you talking about like it's you know I gotta go to the brakes. That's how it was taught. Well guess what this is. Sport streetfight streetfight going breaks. There's a sport if it breaks because he didn't tap it and yell out screaming we stop the fight. Okay breaks but if he says stopped and you gotTA stop. What is your problem? He just he just will not stop so he's dangerous he's the him himself he's also dangerous opponents but see any any realized that I'm fucking up my career by like Sonata. Because he kept doing it kept noon it three times after once you learn at least three. Yeah you know what I'm saying like one time get caught okay. That's stopped doing to stop having the cage. Stop Game No not stop. You've figured out like stop doing it. Pick pick picking up a range. You keep doing it okay can are we got a problem. Isn't issue. Joan John Jones Spin accused in the past the fingers. You know not accuse we've seen Komo knuckle deep guys eyeball. We have John Jones rule. That's how the row you come out when we in backstage. Hey when you come out you cannot have your fingers thing is extended towards your opponent's face. I don't care extended towards lags crotch or away from him above him around him once your fingers extended towards his face and he'd be an fest or to the ceiling that is offensive and defensive. So remember if you keep your fingers to the ceiling and a guy charges you and you try to take a back step automatically human natural ability the way that our body mechanics work that fingers drop down to his is if he runs into your fingers he caused himself to run into your fingers. It is on you. I'm taking a point. Wh what you mean. It's on him. I told you fist or fingers the ceiling. Your fingers are now straight out. That's how he ran into him. Run into them going straight out. You poked him in the eye on you. I'm telling you I make it a festive time. Super Easy it's not that difficult that is legitimate and the John Jones role. That's how John McCarthy came over that specifically to counter jump and people in the eye Altan yeah and John Asks for him not when John or Jones asked for McCarthy not to be as rough a couple of times when he was when he was reverend for him and he's like a day. It's totally fine. John was like doc toy fine. He doesn't want him to rescue them. It's up to the commission. The commission is like yeah. We kind of we Kinda want McCarthy on the on the John Jones right and so do it anyway. Now to bigger refs FIZZ. Like you know. I'm trying to think of some of the bigger fs when McCarthy was revenue. God God is a guy like like are they assign it our refs assigned like like who would that my fictional and Gano Derek Lewis Fi. So I it's funny. They're not gonNA have used to be that kind of way. You don't want John. McCarthy Ref one hundred twenty five hundred so it looks weird so yeah you put some sense into that like do you want do you want a damage roughing joint. You want your sick at one fifteen carlos far as it does it does look a little weird to have that bigger in there but the reverend has gotten so much better. If you've noticed oldest go go back and look like five years ago and you would see the refs all the time all the time now the rest are Kinda hit. You don't really see us anymore. Couple of things as have happened. One the the directors trucks have gotten better camera angles and keeping the rough side of the way but to always kind of got the Mark Ratner speech whether we got directly from mark. We got it from from third party or Fourth Party. We all Marc Ratner thing and the deal is the referee is not part of the fucking show. We're not part the fight. We have nothing. We're not part of it. We stay the fuck out of the way until we got a call a foul that time. Let's call a step. Otherwise stay the hell out of the way is a lot of guys that will angle themselves the purposely beyond camera in other jurisdictions and I. It still happens and I see it when I watch these fights and other fight fan so I watch right shoulder blades. You see no takes legitimately trying to get on camera. That is what you're doing. You're you're not there for any other reason. Other than being on camera in between being on camera is legit. A quarter step is that a full step is going to be out of position anymore. It's a quarter step quarter step back out of the way and the Never GonNa see the Nagorno you there. That's how we should react is that you shouldn't be in away so it's changed quite a bit about about how the visual aspect goes a referee's but you also know that when you see the rough getting they're getting close either tencent crackers gone off. He's about ready to call time or he saw something coming towards a foul. He knows the fighters get ready to get to a foul. Like if I see on the ground or rolling him and Jake starting to roll around and and I know two other times he's already blown a guys neon blue another guy's ankle out already know this. I am right on top of them. Screw camera angles. I'm not worried about camera anymore. I'm worried about fighter safety. He's getting a lock on on. I'm getting there. I'm getting a tight and I'm getting a close. My hands are getting over. I know it's coming there. I'M GONNA I'M GONNA get right on a moment of Jake yells out the moment fighters to stop. Start Peeling stuff right there. And that's just how you get in the way but you always want to be out of the way and not be a part of it. But yeah if you're if you're roughing these big ass these big ass fighters and it looks weird because a louder with these little strong leads. That might look weird. But you don't really see Dan so it's not that big of a problem anymore. It's really not that big of an issue. I read heavyweights time. And I'm I'm I'm five foot ten in two thousand ten pounds. That's what I am strong. Motherfucker what they also they also know that. I have a com- a commanding performance. When I'm in there was one of the things I really do? Pride myself on there. I stay away. I don't say much I don't do much when I need to. It's important and I get it across the fighters I'm doing something important so it looks like Oh you're super strong big push those big heavyweights. It's often not really the kind of gave up Kinda stopped. They stopped because he knew I was coming in. They knew Toma Stop and they stopped and I was able to push resisting. That's why I'm so strong it's not because Doing also too. I'm very good getting in there. When the fights over and bumping a guy off I never hit straight on an angle ban off their feet? That's I'm trying do do you know when a guy's fake like you know there's Kicks to the Middle Region that are close to the balls. But Not really I you you know like at the high inner thigh. Do you guys faking. Like he's acting like you got kicked and balls sometimes. Yes sometimes no and dangerous. Because you're like is he like You know obviously he's in pain. You always go from the from the from the stance of safety. She always called on a little break or you tell them look I saw. It's good it's good let's go let's go let's go and I mean that mistake like I got clearly got kicked. I told. Hey you're good you're good let's go. Let's go and he was good. He wasn't hurt but he got. He did get kicked in the ball. He's able to keep going but I I missed it. I also thought they got they. Didn't I thought it was a high kick but then replay I was CONC- It if you call time and you're not sure there's no such a protocol neutral corner neutral corner you stand. There was a fighter. No coaching right. No coaching exactly. You stand in the Corner Watch. You're responsible for kicks. It tells you backstage response bounce for you strikes. You're responsible for it landed landed. High just wasn't intentional. Don't worry about it when you go home and have a conversation with them. We'll get by because I can but here I understand. I don't argue with me I know it's unintentional. You're responsible happens again. I'm thinking about taking the point. Okay good okay. Log onto him as I'm walking over him looking outside the cage at the at the head desk at the head the head. That's because the Monitor in front of it jurisdiction California. We all get monitors right. I'll just get maters ars and I'll look at the referee. The next referee coming in. Who's now technically is my second? Where the next guy coming into the cage is my second I look at him? He'll look a mango. NOPE didn't hit them or Yup Yup that hitter but hit them. Okay got hit. Let me know when you're ready to go. I want to get this as fast as possible. I gotta go now ninety time. Do you need not take a look at you. Know I think I'm okay if you if if you need to check and walking into the DOC and you walk out of the cage door and let the doctor take a look at them at the cage door KNOB LA whatever if it's a no okay look didn't hit. I know you good. We've already called star. We get ready to get back to it. Well no no no sorry we saw the replay didn't hit. We're getting back into this fight. You Ready. You ready fight. You don't give them an excuse because I have confirmation from outside and I can see the jumbotron at show's content. You thought there was context. All the happened was a six seven twelve second break. And then we're back into the fighting LESCOE. If there's a real instance I let them take his on us. And how do they get for a ball shot by business to get his blood. How long do they get if the fingers dislocated? I don't know how long they get their toenails dislocated. I've never heard of that before. I don't know right. There's no time on anything but blood but does not shot. It's the only time the only time frame that you have is not shot your ministry cover. That's it everything else. A dislocated finger like use your the Raff you see Thrown to wild names and the bad. What Paul Bundle the head hunter? And that's how big of a job at fighting. I Dunno Rico Rodriguez but Paul gets hand. Cotton the CAGE dislocates finger. You can't stop by what's he doing. He's probably clean our CH- okay. I would be doing so. Can he quit if you raise attention to that to that package. I have to stop the fight. If you you do not halted or you stop it. Live fights over so if I have he says hey my fingers dislocated advice overdone if he brings attention to it feist on Friday safety if he does not bring attention to it and you just see it he keeps going okay. So like Prime example or not want to use that one till getting in trouble. Now I'm trying to think of the fireworks had a disfigured. No say so. Let's go. This goes into this goes into the thought process to guys getting punched in the head. And he's got a cut above his eyebrow around yes wide open cut wide open. Dhaka's looked at it. They have its image. It's already been between rounds verdict. Look at it. We're fighting a wide open cut. They got bass lean in it the bleeding stop. He's fighting bang. Bang Bang Bang is getting hit and getting hit in it. He's not touching it. He's not paying attention to it. It keeps fighting but his eyes closed but he doesn't. He's not rubbing his eyebrow he's not rubbing anything anything he just keeps. Friday keep the going it keeps rubbing it with his hand. He's touching his hand. He's bothering you. Tell US bothering them and bothering them. It's piling okay. Hold on time and the DOC look at it now doc. He's a medical professional. I'm not a medical professional. I don't know all I know. Is that that thing is now bothering him. Because he's wiping blood in his eyes so I'm not worrying about staying as I are blinding vision but this thing is done as well up the doctor look at it. Doc what he say. fights over okay if I told her. That's it. Dr Savage Fights Booboo doesn't matter if it's over that's okay okay. Good you ready ready to go got back onto it. Defer to the doctor's situation like that and for the doctor with a dislocated finger dislocated plenty of doubt. But if you see if you see I can tell us dislocate especially through love. You like dude fights over. We can't have anymore but he's like. Oh our hurt my finger. Stop Time you okay okay. I'm and hurt my finger on the communication take care okay. Come here the start of the doctor the door and the fingers Docs like it's this okay and fights over we're done say Last thing then I think the tape is GonNa blow up first of all. Thank you very much pleasure anytime. I love to do this anytime you want. Oh listen I I make you a sidekick if you've got the time I do it for sure if there's money involved. Well this'll be the last time you on this. This kid studio. Oh I if I can get rid of I don't like to talk about what's upstairs but if I can. Why would you want to talk about this a per platform to talk about it? Well it is but I want to be known for my comedy and then people want to ask you. You can do advertising if you if you had. If bio sal came in here and want to do it advertising you'd run their commercial commercial. It's a commercial for the stuff you trying to sell. Well I have have a probably the world's largest game on Hockey Jersey collection of fighters so that means every goon every enforcer it is in credible guys frank is one of. There's only been I think four other people allowed in that room theo fleury time Stanley Cup champion. CBS Dustin Penner a two time Stanley Cup champion and And his police dog and one other person What we won't get the person was was it? 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I'm assuming Ima may gear hand get funky but hockey Might be even worse. Just 'cause as you people don't understand like we're talking about today. No Chara. Bean to seventy naked but with gear on he's as close to you sweat Uh incredible amounts in hockey so to know that you had forty jerseys unwashed from on so when I got the Jersey. Actually one Steve Steve McKenna's He didn't play in that game But he skated in warm up. So I won His Jersey and Eric Bolton's Jersey who got into a fight. That game When I got both jerseys the smell was so ungodly But I was so excited I had a show that night at the comedy store were anyway. I wore the Bolton Jersey and you comedy stunt that now I'm telling you every and I do you know oh I do all right with the ladies back in that era of my life. I couldn't get a girl. Come near me. Oh Yeah for sure. It was a month stench. Because they're thinking they're thinking like uses jerseys thing what's his ball smell like. Yeah that's the girls are thinking dangling smell my last question and you are welcome back anytime any time. Maybe it first of all guys you gotta you gotTa you gotTa get these Jersey so because you want to get to the new studio yeah and then you can afford a sidekicks come in here once a week and we don shooter ship the three and a half hours. Well it's you know you look at you know Brennan Shaab as a sidekick kid that's he's killing it I don't know I mean Joe doesn't necessarily a psychics but he has semi regular sidekick. Tom Suguira Red Man. Tony Hinchliffe etc etc ideas on. Joe Joey are we has a sidekick so psychics Eddie Barlow Joe as a rotating. Yeah you so you know Casts I would love to have you as a site. Your perfect for podcasts. Could you talk a lot. And that's not that I have no problem talk. I know I've literally done. I'm done podcast. Where like the guy the host has left? But that's like ten or fifteen. I'm sitting here talking about what the fuck is going on. And he during the bathroom having listened to it on their phone. Oh yeah I know exactly what you said So the final question for today perfect. We talk about stopping shopping fights knowing win the pressure that bigfoot Silva Marquan fight Both gashes ashes all over their heads. But it goes to you know they were both fighting competently like does the sheer size of both US guys factor into like today stopped assume like every every fighter whereas four and a half ounce clubs every Friday. It's the same same same about four. And a half ounce five ounce clubs and there was gloves so the guy hitting at one fifteen has been his hand is little frame a guy at two seventy five or t sixty five has exact same glove in his hand. The exact same way. Raise your like the reason why you wear gloves. The reason why boxing gloves the queensberry rules isn't the protect. The fighter getting punched reached. It's about the hand of the fighter punchy right so these when you go to like mayweather fight back. Eight ounces. Ten ounces US Harry fights were in ten ounces eight ounces as competitive glove when they're hitting each other and wilder when they rematch forever. It's going to be an eight ounce love. It's what it is that these guys are gonna hit each other hard balls eight ounce gloves does that factor into your to. You're settling no. I mean you also have to find spaces if a guy gets hit a wicked crack a wicked crack where his the back. The top of his head touches his back he gets his head snapped back. That hard you wo- but then he fell down. Is he still concerned. Hansel up our as iced fresh. He's still looking at. What's going on with them? Okay still good. Let's let's keep going spike keeps going that he's not with the blood is is. You've got gashes cut up but he's still find inbetween round the DOT com and take a look at it. Let's get the break. Let's see what happens. The break comes in the back is already at the doors are looking at both fighters and in a way in California. At least they wait. Let let the Guy Kinda on the Stephen Stop it and come. I'm into whatever it but he'll also take a quick look because the Docs especially in California now yet I cut even if they stopped the bleeding. It's it's already happened to the bone. I count the FICO. This fights over this guy. He's too bad guys. Good the other day. Oh that guy's to stop the final. He'll look at both sides. We'll make a decision and they'll tell you that you know. Hey Rapper guy stopped despite. There's no blood there's no blood clean-cut to clean cut. Unfortunately though I see a skull fights gotTa Stop Okay fights over done and this is kind of a a piggyback on. That question like I remember. There was a fighter. I used to love scene for breezy. Oh Maldonado middleweight. He actually stepped up one night to fight me. Oh Ch oh yeah. Yeah Yeah I only bring them up. Because this guy's ability to take punishment was he was like the Tex heck's Cobb of MMA like eating a beating like a nuclear versus sat kind of beating. Yeah I love me some Bob. SAPP is just shorting your career like. That's how you shortly career but has a ref Like it how do you factor in terms of your decision making ability to say we have of I'll go another old school fight. Let's say we have for Bruce Maldonado against Gary Goodridge. It's going to take a beating. You know you know the both guys so like I do you get. Do they have a longer rope like. Because you know you've seen him fight before you've okay. I see this guy right before I can take a beating. You know. It's IT'S A. He's deepen a list. I know they can take an ass kicking. Let's to see what happens. You know like no girl here. He can take a beating. We know he's going to get beat up. He's GONNA probably lose the first round yours coming back. Find some kind of submission. He just take a beating a lot of heads a lot of kicks. I'll be fine. We just know got about about the opponent on the opposite end of that. I love how I'm asking one question. And it's just like when you know a guy and I don't like saying the guy's a week Chen because because like Jesus you're getting hit by like the overall has been accused of having weekend. Yeah now to me. It's like look he's fucking fighting's going to about two hundred fifty four men and we gone who who probably at fight night is probably to seventy or whatever. His famous knockout he had against bigfoot Silva Uh yes God knows how. He's got to be close to three hundred pounds at fight time. Do you on the opposite. Okay well over. Aim has sir a questionable. We don't we don't we. Don't think about the Chan. I don't think about the Chin in that sense. Because you get tough she's GonNa fall down Ortiz dollar last fight for golden born. So I was. I was reading that night and chuckled. Good he'll look good coming out moving around and got touched. She fell down. You don't go. Chuck has a weak Chin now because of age because we sat her we know that fighters fell down fights over. He's he just fell out and went to sleep. Woke up we gotTA fight so it's not like one half you don't go. Oh this guy's got a week Chen. This guy's strong right you go. I knew this guy can take a beating analyst. Those guys survives. I'm GONNA give them a chance to survive but also finance point of how much let them survive and every every referee different on the other end you know the guys that we can just okay if he falls down flights over as it. I'm not GonNa let them take. I'M NOT GONNA go a week channel. I'm take ten more punches. You will. He got touch. She's GonNa fall down solidify despite finish. Now what's similar to you. Know we talked about guys so many. But there's some great women fighters rousing I. You know I it's And I'm asking more than telling about but I'm going to ask like I am telling like to me she had never been touched before and then Obviously the Home kick to the face and then you know the destruction of Nunez. Ns and forty eight seconds to shave a week. Chen or was is just the fact that she never been touched before. She just wasn't skilled boxing. She's one scaled. She's in no matter what no matter what everybody said. Oh there was a room for while she could beat up any mail hundred twenty five pounder that she can box anybody. One hundred hundred and thirty five pounds or whatever weight class could be ludicrous. Just doesn't she doesn't have the skill like if you if you actually understand the game you understand. She doesn't have the skill what had happened was is that she was the the absolute top of cream of the crop. Best for four or five years but during that four or five years every other female find that way class was watching her trying to figure out how to beat in her how to catch her. That's what they're doing the top of the heat. She has to worry about five hundred and fifty people in the class. Everybody else may class had to worry about one person. She Saint Kosovo. How was Chris? Wideman able to beat him significantly both times. 'CAUSE CHELSEA SON and taught us how to beat them right wrestling. I'll be and we had show loss to him. But he was beating the crap out of me for a four and a half rounds so close literally winning had to get through another whatever minute and a half two minutes. Whatever he would've won the entire fight easily and if he lost the second half of that round didn't matter all you do is get out of that triangle? Won The a fight. He gave us the blueprint to be Anderson Silva the reason why Rana got caught so quickly because the women's division was at the time ten years behind the men's division right right because if we had more time they had women's divisions just didn't have it deserves developing. But they're able to look at the men's division to learn like before Michael Jordan there was never a fadeaway jumper now all of a sudden every fadeaway jumper. Why because Emma's watching Jordan every learn from Jordan so everybody else's figuring out before they got the pros so when the pros all of a sudden there was this batch Gotcha college kids and we had a fadeaway jumper? That was amazing to watch. What the like centers fadeaway jump? How is this possible? Free my favorite player. Okay we'll tabby learn everybody everybody from Rhonda in Iran his classes watching the watching the men fight learning how learning how to compete with the men but only had men to train with as well so they're becoming smarter like men so the Women's division being ten years behind then when it came to the home fight. The women's division was five years behind coming up now all of a sudden it's evenly matched right. It's the women's divisions evenly mass. I'm not saying that women can beat men. I'm not saying that that that is unfortunately biologically just doesn't happen man at the same aim weight size. Same Way class are going to be stronger. Do Some Women Win Jitsu tournaments co ED and he gets able to catch a guy that's much bigger than yes but I'm able to throw punches. It's it's not. It's not a fair assessment. GonNa Happen But the women's division is just as good as the men's division they are just as deep as the men division to the point. Now where guys like like coker ochre starting a whole new weight division wrapped around Chris Cyborg specifically because there's enough women that will fight at one. Four five they have enough women they can make they can get ten twelve twenty thirty people people in the way class deep matchups like they have this position now is caught up. And that's why you saw Rhonda Fall so quickly. Because she was the top she didn't have time handler from everybody else. You gotta worry about the next person coming at her right so she got a false sense of security because she's able to on by buddy catch everybody that she went out there and start striking with holly. How he's like? I'm not having any of this. I'm a former female boxing champ. I this is what I do for a living. You're not gonNA strike me. You might be able to out grammy but you're not gonNA be condition me. You'RE NOT GONNA be an Australian automated striking matchup as hit. I should have done Lord. Eleven shadow w why would she even bothering San there but she stood there and she was so comfortable the hand and asking their new newness because Nunez had learned a blueprint from from holly home. She's like I'm a blitzkrieg. This girl. And she went on Bush creator if they fought again if if they went back and six months later we did that fight. It might have went to the second round of the third round because she's going to try to figure rising to get out of the way and she would have worked on hand sanitizer up slow fight not saying saying that Amanda beat her up again in the fourth round comes second fight but the fight would have been different right absolutely indifferent but all we know is Tyson and buster. Douglas Nineteen Ninety. That's all are. We know the fight that happened. That's all we know what happened. That fight was not happy it was great for one side and very bad for your side. We almost strikeforce with Brett Rogers against fate or like fate or got him got him good. Yeah I mean that was when I started to go I think failures declining because I think Brett Rogers was literally literally three months before that fight working at a tire store. That's not good that he's having trouble with this guy at all but what I know frank trigg like I literally. We can do to Morales in his absolutely. We didn't even get into your career like that perfect we have to. That's why I have to come back but listen Like that's how I do do the podcast. I think any other podcast. I'm not comparing myself. In the sense they were just like okay. We'll ask about two huge divides will ask about you know Robbie lawler had already answered these fucking questions. So where can people find you. Social Media Frank trigg on instagram. Graham Frank trigg on facebook fan page full on my facebook personal page. So you have to go to my page frank trigg. Its all photos of me. Instagram John Instagram twitter and a website. or No I did website. I don't do any whether frank furniture dot com and do anything with it and if you ask me a question it takes you to get back to us because I'm the only one to answer. It's either near my wife. The only people that actually get to this they actually answer for this so somebody takes a minute to get to you because I might get a bar with a bunch of people. That's what I was. It's very impressed with you. Know when we met Kayla us that night You know uh go. I was there to see my friends Stephen Singer from rat. And then Jesus go from Osha. TRAG I'll give my number asking to be on the party. He'll never get back to me like the next day. You got back to me. In fact I follow up. I try to follow up with with anybody even if even if it's just hey gosh number. Thanks for talking to you last night. I mean that's the only time we ever ever talk again. I always try to follow up because because you deserve the respect you gave me your number. You deserve to responding to you for me to give you a number now to talk to you. That's kind of asshole move. I don't want to be that I don't be that guy anymore. Which is why I always get back to fan so you could see the joy in there is like do and I'm not a famous comic but to them I am and can't believe you got back to me? I'm like why wouldn't wouldn't like Jeremie take a day or two because you know we got shit going on so I want you guys to become fans of Frank And if you're I know frank and get money from this necessarily but if you are around the forum Saturday night Twenty combined say. Hi is that Saturday Saturday night. Right next Saturday Surani Surani this weekend is the Serono and then the following weekend Isabel fight the forum. So it's a big you know then I'm sure there's eight more cards I don't know about that are happening control and and I don't like this. ESPN I just WanNa pay order the pay per view on direct. TV maybe But we'll get we'll get into that in the next. Yeah because I'm a fan. I don't like the new setup with DASA and and ESPN PLUS I. It's an inflow wrestling and then fight. TV and then by the time you get done you're you're paying two hundred dollars just for APPs to watch fights well if you don't have a smart TV which I do but I'm I'm horrible technologies. You're not smart. No I'm not I have to watch. I'll watch the McGregor fight on my Computer Shane which is big. But I WANNA watch it on that screen. It's bigger era but I don't think Dana White cares what one guy in West Hollywood cares or thinks about the billion dollar four billion dollar company. Guess what's going to happen happened Saturday. We're all GONNA pay to watch. Oh I I think. There's a heavyweight fights to watch it. I mean that La Hoya promotion that we'RE UA GRAPHENE AT I. was there that the LADELE fight. There was a heavyweight fight in. 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Using Beauty to Deceive

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49:50 min | 2 months ago

Using Beauty to Deceive

"Does truth exist because you have faith. Does that make this book does not exist so when someone says there is no true if you apply the claim to itself what should you say is that true. They don't think christianity their talked out of it. You know why they're talked out of it because they've never been talked into it. Cross examining skeptical and view. Welcome to cross examined with dr frank. Turek you ever wake up at four o'clock in the morning and just start thinking and you started thinking so much that you couldn't get back to sleep. Yeah that was me. Last night i started thinking about all the words that we use in our society that are redefined to actually pass off a lie as the truth and so i got up and i started to type them all into my confused here my computer here and i always want to talk about some of these. Words that have crept into our culture crept into the church. That don't really mean what they should mean. And they're basically put forth as i say to pass off a lie as the truth. I don't know who said this. But somebody said this. Many moons ago and it makes a lot of sense. Statement is beauty is the battlefield upon which god and satan fight for the souls of people. Beauty is the battlefield upon which god and satan satan fight for the souls of people. We're all attracted to beauty. Were all attracted to good things and so if you wanna pass off a lie is the truth. You have to wrap it in a good thing if you want to deceive someone to believe a falsehood dress up the falsehood to look beautiful or at least more attractive than it is now. This of course is deception. One problem with deception deceived. If you did know you were being deceived. You wouldn't be deceive. Deception is like that. Satan comes as an angel of light. He's not gonna come bearing all of his evil and ugliness. He's gonna come bearing what appears to be attractive so you're attracted to it and will then follow him. We're all attracted to beauty. Were all attracted to good things. Things like love equality justice sex power money. Those are all good things. And that's why those good things are usually caked to get us to swallow the lies. Now we do. This was languages. I mentioned. And let's just go through some of the words or phrases that are used in today's culture and even the church sometimes that sound good but are redefined or they are. They are sugar coating something. That really is good. How about the phrase your truth. Have you heard this sound. So oprah winfrey light because she says that oh you have your truth follow your truth. Follow your truth. Well the truth of the matter is there is only the truth. There is not your truth if something is true. It's true whether or not you agree. It is true. Look if it's true that the earth goes around the sun but you think the sun's going around the earth. It's not your truth that the sun is going around the earth. It is really true that the earth is going around the sun now from an observational perspective. It does look like the sun's around the earth but that's just not really the case it's true observation only and the bibles written observational. So the bible talks about sunrise sunset. And we still do today. You know if you watch the news tonight. The weather man's going to say sunrise tomorrow at seven twelve. He's not going to say earth rotation become apparent at seven twelve know is using observational language. But the truth is the truth whether you believe it or not. There is not your truth and my truth. There's just the truth now our beliefs we. You could say you have your beliefs about the truth. That's certainly true. But that doesn't mean your beliefs are necessarily true or false. They have to align to correspond with reality to be true. They have to align with reality to be true. And as ben shapiro has said repeatedly. Facts don't care about your feelings doesn't matter if you feel something's true if it's not true it's just not true facts. Don't care about your feelings and as you know you've been listening to this show long enough if somebody says there's no truth or there's no objective truth you just ask them. Is that true because the claim that all truth is subjective. All truth is just your truth. Not be truth is actually purporting to be itself and objective. Truth it saying it's objectively true that all truth are subjective. It's objectively true that there's only my truth. Wait a minute that truth that all truth is my truth is claiming to be objective while at the same time claiming to be subjective it's itself defeating itself contradictory to say there's no truth is a truth claim. Now you may have heard that in twenty sixteen. The oxford dictionary said that the word of the year was actually a compound. Word post truth now. They didn't mean post. Truth doesn't mean that truth is relative or the postmodern view that there is no overarching meta narrative. Or there is no overarching. Truth is is the case post truth actually means this and this is the wikipedia definition. You can't always trust wikipedia. But i think they have it right here. Post truth is defined as quote relating to or denoting circumstances in which objective facts are less influential in shaping public opinion then appeals to emotion and personal belief unquote. I think they have that right. We do live in a post truth. Culture people are more interested in following. What's attractive rather than what's really true. People are more interested in appealing to emotion or their own personal beliefs than to actually looking at the evidence and lining up their beliefs with the evidence lining up their beliefs with reality. People want to create their own realities. Now they don't want to adjust to reality. they want to try and adjust reality to them. In fact that's pretty much the difference between what we would call conservatives and leftists now leftist want to try and change reality to fit their desires whereas conservatives generally are trying to change their desires to fit reality and so reality is what it is. You're not going to change trues about reality. you're not going to change the fact that the sun is not going around the earth earth's going around the sun. You're not going to change the fact as controversial as this is today. That if you're a man your can't change yourself into a woman. Okay you can take drugs. You can change your bodily appearance. But you're still biologically really are a man and a woman if you really are woman no but people want to change. Try and change reality. So there isn't your truth. There's just the truth and we need to get that point across to our young people especially because if they don't believe that truth corresponds to reality not only. Are they going to be having difficulty here in this real world. They're going to smack up against reality but it's going to affect their eternity so one of the most healthy things you can do for young people's teach there's truth objective truth and they can know it. Here's another word that we sometimes use inappropriately so to speak and that is a mistake. You're the word mistake. We call our sins mistakes. I made a mistake committed adultery. It was a mistake. Well it was a mistake but it wasn't just a mistake. It was a sin. okay. Oh i stole. That was a mistake. It was a mistake but it was really a sin. Look mistakes are what you do when you add up your checkbook wrong sins are what you do when you actually violate god's design or god's commands so we try in code our sins with mistakes and we're not calling it really what it is. It's not a mistake. it's a sin. It's a violation of god's design for us of god's commands for us to violation of really. What's best for you and others. You're violating that. When you sin it's not just a mistake also just use the word inappropriate know. We like to use the word inappropriate rather than immoral. We used to call things immoral. We don't call them immoral anymore. We say that's inappropriate. Behavior inappropriate like it. Almost sounds like it's just convention it's just cultural. It's inappropriate to wear white after labor day. It's inappropriate to burp at the table right. It's inappropriate it's violating manners. This isn't just violating matters. When you commit adultery. It's violating matters when you steal something. It's not just violating matters when you do something that's really immoral. It's not just the inappropriate. It's immoral but we'd like to make ourselves feel better by calling inappropriate. We're not facing up to the truth because we can't handle the truth. I'm frank trigg. Were handling the truth here. We're back in two minutes. Don't go anywhere france. can you help me with something. 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You don't come to us so we try and poor all of our resources into actually doing ministry so thank you for the donations. You've provided all ready today. We are talking about the fact that there are a lot of words used out there that are really sugar coating lies because beauty is the battlefield upon which god and satan fight for the souls of people and we try and make either things look attractive. That are sinful or at least less unattractive by changing the language we use take the word tolerance for example tolerance once meant. Excuse me respecting hearing those with whom you disagree now. Tolerance means that you must agree in celebrate with everything. Say i wanted to do or someone claiming that you need to be tolerant. Wants you to do anyone who disagrees. However with what. I wanna do. It will not be tolerated. They will be slandered and silenced. People use the word tolerance. i mean. that's the way it's often used in the public square today. It didn't mean like it used to mean. Even though i disagree with your ideas. I will tolerate you. Tolerate those ideas now. It means you must celebrate. Agree with everything i say. Celebrate my center. I will hurt. You agree with me or else basically. That's what it means in today's culture now by the way tolerance in its classical meaning required you to disagree with what was being done or said because in order for you to tolerate something you have to disagree with it. You don't tolerate things you agree with you tolerate things you disagree with mother teresa for example. Who helped the poor never had to ask for tolerance. She didn't have to say. Would you tolerate me now when you're asking for tolerance typically you're implying that what you're what you're doing might be wrong. That's why people have tolerated if you're doing good. Nobody nobody you never ask for tyler. Say oh i want to go feed the poor. Would you tolerate that. I wanna give my money to a tour charitable and a good cause. Would you tolerate that. I want to treat people with love and kindness. Would you tell you don't have to ask for tolerance where you're doing good. You only have to ask for it when you might be doing or are doing evil but we use the word tolerance because sure we. We want to be tolerant right. We want to respect people and respect what they say and even if we disagree with what they say we want to respect them and we wanna give them the opportunity to express themselves. Those are good things. The problem is our culture is redefined it to me now. You must celebrate what i wanna do. Even if what. I'm doing his sinful now. Are christians commanded to be tolerant. Ladies and gentlemen. No christians are not commanded to be tolerant. Tolerance is too weak tolerances. Hold your nose and put up with them. Love says reach out and help them and in order to love people sometimes. You can't tolerate what they wanna do because what they wanna do is going to hurt them or others. In fact that leads us to our next word love. What is love me. Well if someone says you should love and you should love me you might wanna ask them what i. What do you mean by love. It typically meant to seek the good of the other person and as paul writes. I corinthians thirteen love always protects love always rejoices in the truth however now typically what love means is it means. You must approve of everything i do. It's very similar to tolerance. Now you must approve of everything. I do and by the way if you say i'm doing wrong. You're wrong for telling me i'm doing wrong. See only the people who can tell you're doing wrong are actually doing wrong. Those are the only people that can say you're doing wrong back to you. If you call somebody out on their sin. Say it's wrong. It's tell people they're doing wrong. You know sometimes i get. I get emails from people. This is rare but everyone. And so. While i get an email if i say something that someone doesn't disagree that that someone doesn't agree with horrify say so and so said this and i disagree with it especially if so and so is a christian and i say look. I disagree with what that person said. They'll write me and they'll say you ought not criticize other christians. Now what is it. What does that person actually doing. Criticizing me who another christian. They're saying you're not criticize other christians as they criticize me for criticizing other christians. I guess they just don't see the hypocrisy in that and by the way. Paul criticized other christians. He did so right. In the book relations. He went after. Peter who was not acting consistently by by not hanging out with people who Were gentiles and separating from them and requiring some gentiles to obey the old testament law which was something. They had already decided. They shouldn't do back in the first church council as recorded in acts chapter fifteen so he basically called out peter for his bad behaviour. Right there in the bible right there. So don't tell me. We can't in a appropriate way. Call other christians out when they're doing something wrong in fact if we don't do that we're not really loving fact if you love me and you know about to do something wrong. Or i'm advocating something or some doctrine or something that's leading people astray. If you love me you'll try and tell me that that's what love does and every parent knows this. If you tolerate everything your kid wants to do. You're not loving. You have to stand in the way of evil. Otherwise you're unloving. Michael brown. And i had an debate a couple years ago its own even jokela seminary on our website does title of it is does love require approval or does does does love and tolerance require affirmation something like that anyway. We're having a debate with a couple of folks from the lgbt. Lgbt community on that basic issue does love require approval and at one point in the debate. I asked the folks on the other side said. Do you love us. And they said yes and i said do you approve of our position and what we're saying here. They said no. I said well you just lost debate. Then because you're saying that love requires approval and yet you don't approve of what we say we're saying that loved us not require approval. In fact love requires disapproval. If what is being said or done is wrong. And that's what we're doing. We're saying what you're saying is wrong. Now we still love you. But that's one reason we're saying it because we love you. Also we try and beautify our lust by calling it love. That's why we'll say checking with somebody. We are taking the next step in our commitment to one another now. If you're doing that you know what you're really saying. What you really mean to say. If you were honest is that you would say to your partner. You know you're good enough to use but you're not good enough to love your good enough to have sex with but you're not good enough to really commit to. That's really what you're saying. But you don't wanna say that to you just lost a lot of listeners. Sorry just trying to tell you the truth. Here were beautifying lust by calling it love love by definition binds itself to the loved one it seeks the best for the loved one it always protects the loved one it rejoices in the truth doesn't go halfway. It goes all the way. There's a new word out there. By the way have you heard the word entanglement. Yeah that's the new word for adultery. I got entangled in another relationship as if you were just swimming along and somehow it. Inverted got entangled in a net or entangled in a trap. That's actually the words. Now that i think of it used by solomon in proverbs when he talks about the adulterer being caught in a trap. Yeah you're caught in a trap trapped but it's by your own choice. It wasn't a mistake like you inadvertently added up your checkbook wrong. it was. You actually took an overt step of disobedience of rebellion and committed adultery. And you're trying to make it sound better by calling it entanglement. Oh how about choice. You hear that a lot freedom to choose in the abortion debate the question you to ask when people say freedom to choose freedom to choose what you know. If you're the parent of a toddler your back is turned to the toddler. And you hear the toddler behind you or maybe a five year old saying daddy. Can i kill it. What should be your first question. What is it if it's a spider. Okay if it's your baby brother no you gotta figure out what they're talking about but we're going to cover our desire to get rid of an inconvenient human being by calling it a choice. My wife and i had two miscarriages. We have three sons but two miscarriages in between them when she miscarried. We didn't think we lost choice. We lost son or daughter but the phrase freedom to choose is a phrase meant to ensure that women are free to abort their children as important note here. Notice that no one on the other side of this debate the leftists who put this fourth us freedom to choose when it applies to a woman with living children who would like the freedom to choose their child's school their child health care or whether or not their children have abortions. No you don't have the freedom to choose then so they're trying to make something evil sound good because everybody's for choice doesn't like choice. I like choice. You like choice. But the choice to do what here we are trying to beautify something ugly by our language you also hear the word or the compound word anti-choice your anti-choice not you're pro-life you're anti-choice really well. Yeah yeah manta you're right. I'm anti murder. Okay okay put me down for that. I'm also anti-slavery is that okay so okay with you. Of course there's a lot of things. I'm anti because anti things that are going to be hurtful at our sinful that are wrong. And if you're not anti those things you're not loving upright turk the program's called. I don't have enough faith to be an atheist and our websites cross examined dot org. Don't forget to download our free app in the app store cross examined. We're back in just a couple of minutes. You find value in the content. That is podcast. Don't forget a follow us on instagram. Facebook and twitter join our online community to have great conversations. Draw your knowledge of god and become a better defender of the christian faith. Also don't forget to subscribe to our youtube channel where we have hundreds of videos and over one hundred thousand subscribers that are part of all nine thousand finals by searching for frank couric or pros examining the search bar. You can find many more resources. Like articles online courses free downloadable materials event calendars and more at cross examined dot. Org those call evil good and good evil said isaiah chapter five and we're doing that in our culture sometimes even the church. We are applying different meanings to words. That should mean something else. We are coating are evil and beautiful sounding words and terms. We've talked about a number of them so far here this morning. My name is frank turk by the way you're listening to. I don't have enough faith to be an atheist on the american family radio network. We were talking just before the break about choice and freedom to choose freedom to choose what there's another phrase being used now by the pro-abortion people and this is called the product of conception. Have you heard this phrase yet. The product of conception. They're just saw video recently. It was on lila roses. Twitter feed lila rose heads a pro-life group and it was. I think it's pinned at the top of her twitter feed. It was a clip from testimony about planned. Parenthood selling fetal body parts baby body parts and the lady was referring to these body parts as the product of conception and when pressed she would say. Oh yeah there's a heart or there's a leg or but the general term for it was the product of conception got news for you everyone. Everyone's the product of conception they're human beings everyone listening to my voice. Right now is a product of conception. Is that what you're going to call a human being the product of conception. No you're trying to make something sound. Innocuous you're trying to make an evil that you're doing sound innocuous we're just looking for the product of conception were selling the product of conception. You're selling baby body. Parts even admitted at one point in this video that she seen by beating heart in the product of conception in the baby. This is what we do when we try and make the evil that we want to do. Sound better we're trying to beautify the ugly. We're trying to moralize the immoral. We're trying to make something evil sound good inclusion and diversity. Those are great terms right. Everybody wants to be included and we want to have people from diverse backgrounds. And we want to celebrate all that except what it really means. Is that every diverse viewpoint and behavior is to be heard and celebrated except those that do not agree with leftist ideology. Those are not to be included those people even though they hold a diverse viewpoints are to be excluded. You see inclusion and diversity mean to corporate elites especially that if you don't agree with our values you're going to be excluded and as i've mentioned to you before back in twenty eleven when i was doing corporate training i was fired by both cisco and bank of america because i wrote a book called correct not politically correct. Same sex marriage or it's everyone never brought the book up at work. Is you know at any of the training i did. People who took my leadership training loved it. Even the guy who complained about my book love the training. He admitted but the name of inclusion tolerance diversity. I always excluded for holding a diverse view. Neither was i tolerated but it sounds so good. Ride inclusion and diversity yet typically. It's covering the fact that you must support behaviors which you know through natural law and through biblical revelation are behaviors. That you can't support that. God does not want us doesn't want us to engage in and yet in the name of inclusion tolerance and diversity. You will support those or we will hurt you. How about the word progressive. That sounds like such a good word. Who doesn't wanna be progressive. Who doesn't want to progress. Well actually what that means is in reality. that's the word we call our disagreements with jesus and his apostles we call the word when in fact we are being regressive. We'd rather change god than change ourselves. In fact we just had a video put up this week from actually was from a church video on our youtube channel and thank you for subscribing to our youtube channel or near in two hundred and fifty thousand subscribers. Praise god for that. And we just put out this video. That makes the point. Someone actually asked me at a church. The question was can you be a christian disagree with god. And i said well i suppose it's possible but it's not a place i would want to be. I would not want to disagree with god. I think god is smarter than me. I think god is the standard of truth and righteousness injustice. So i want to align myself to him. I said however there are people out there calling themselves progressive christians when they're neither progressive nor are they christians because they disagree with jesus on on several major issues they disagree with jesus on sex. They disagree with jesus on the bible they disagree with jesus in heaven and hell they disagree with jesus actually on his own atonement. So why would you call yourself a christian. You say well. Frank you get to define who a christian is and who isn't let me just give you a very simple analogy. Here are simple. Thought experiment if we were all at the base of mount sinai when moses came down with the ten commandments and we looked at the ten commandments. After moses set here they are. Y'all way gives us these ten commandments. And we look at those ten commandments and go. We don't like those ten. We got our own ten. Should we call ourselves followers of galway. Of course not what are followers of y'all way we're followers of ourselves. That's not progressive. If y'all way is god and he has commands for us we need to agree with them and obey them. We shouldn't call ourselves followers of your way if we're not following y'all way likewise we shouldn't call ourselves followers of buddha if we're not following buddhist teachers we shouldn't call us followers of allah if we shouldn't those muslims if we're not following the koran or allah's teachings. We shouldn't call us. Call ourselves israelites. Jui- y'all way followers if we're not following galway and we shouldn't call ourselves christians if we're not following jesus expressly disagreeing with jesus and not following his teaching. Why should we call ourselves christians. It's not progressive. it's actually regressive but it sounds so good to be progressive doesn't it. How about the word. Equality no longer equality as human beings or equality before the law now. It means quality of behavior and outcome. That's what it means. In fact hillary farrar who wrote along with a bunch of other women. Apologist wrote the book. Mama bear apologetic great book. We had around the program Last year and she writes this on. Page seventy one of mama politics. The side that controls the words love truth tolerance justice equality is the side that can shut the conversation down compel people to act without thinking blurred the issues vilify the opponent and basically win the argument on emotions alone. Why because everyone already believes in love. Tolerance justice and equality. yes indeed. We already do the the problem is we're stuffing a different definition into the word equality. Then what it really does mean or should mean or has meant it used to mean we're all equal as human beings because we're made in the image and likeness of god and we're all equal before the law in america. Anyway we're supposed to be equal before the law. We shouldn't be treating people differently. Based on the law. Everybody is subject to the rule of law but today it means the quality of behavior and outcome that means as we'll see here in a few minutes people must be brought down a notch to bring other people up or people must have their resources taken and given to others in order to equal things out. There is no equality of come here in america or here on earth just like there will be no equality of outcome in heaven. People are judged based upon their behaviors. Even christians are judged based on their behaviors. They'll either get rewards or lose rewards based on their behaviors. They'll get to heaven on account of grace. But they're judged on their behaviors and to say that all behaviors are equal is just fault. That's why the whole marriage equality thing was built on a false premise. Everyone already had marriage equality. before same. sex marriage was imposed on society. Everyone had the equal right to marry somebody. The opposite sex. That's what marriage was to say that nobody that some people didn't have that right now. Everyone had the same right but what people wanted was they wanted to redefine. What marriage was everyone already had marriage equality but they wanted to change marriage into something. It wasn't that's not equality. The marriage between a man and a woman is a different behavior than the marriage between two or two women or several people. It's just different behaviors. You treat equal things equally. You don't treat different things. Equally same sex marriage and opposite. Sex marriage are different by the very admission of people who wanted same sex marriage. If they weren't different they would just marry somebody of the opposite sex and be done with it the very reason. They wanted same sex marriages because they knew the behavior was different. Well that's a different behavior. It's not the same behavior as a marriage between a man and a woman just not different things so to demand equality of outcome is not what equality has normally meant but equality sound so. Good that everybody's got to be equality. Same thing is with the word gay right. It used to be cheerful and mary. Now it means sexual contact between men. It's something sounding good gender gender once we once thought gender to be a designed unchangeable biologically based sexual identity. Now it's known to be completely socially constructed you don't have to pay attention to anatomy reproduction effect in eighteen twenty eight webster defined gender as a sex male or female now. The definition is the behavioral cultural and psychological traits typically associated with one sex in other words. It's just something that is. Socially constructed gender is or individually constructed even doesn't mean biological sex anymore maybe associated with that. But it's whatever you think it is. How about the word. Justice justice used to mean individuals. Getting what they deserve and impartial and fair application of the law. What does it mean now. Justice means equality of outcome going back to the equality issue the redistribution of wealth stealing from one group to give to another group. That's what justice means. Now and social justice it's cousin used to mean helping to care for orphans and widows the poor the unborn that's what the biblical concept meant. Now it means oppressed groups must be liberated which in turn means discriminated against groups of people based on their perceived social standing and all unpack this further after the break. You're listening to. I don't have enough faith to be an atheist with frank turk by the way we have the essentials of christianity course almost full now and the premium version. It begins january one. If you're hearing this after january one you can still sign up in the first week. Seven zoom sessions with me. We'll be talking about the essentials of the faith. Seventeen hours of video as well. You can join us. Go to cross examine or clicking online courses. Sign up today because we're running out of room back into don't go anywhere. France rank turkey or to be an atheist is a listener supported. Radio program and podcast. So if you like what you hear here would you consider donating to cross examined dot org one hundred percent of your donations go to ministry percent building were completely virtual so have you can help us out. We greatly appreciate it. Thank you so much back down and have enough faith to be an atheist with frank turk american family radio network. I mentioned the essentials course coming up here january one to one. That's when it drips. You can sign up after that. But that's when it starts and we're going to be together for seven or eight weeks and doing seven zoom sessions as i mentioned go to cross examined dot org click on online courses. You'll see it there. There's a bunch of other courses up there. We got some new ones coming up this year to on j wallace. another one. With another one sean mcdowell coming up also want to mention on january seventeenth. I'll be privileged to again. Be at calvary chapel chino hills degrade church out there with my friend jack kids. It's pro sunday. It'll be given a message on pro-life so hope to see out there. If you're out there for jax church called. Calvary chapel chino hills. I know it's not really jacks church's senior pastor but does a wonderful job out there just love going there people so encouraging and there's such an energy because so many churches in california closed and jack said look god wants us to worship you wanna take protections you can you want to be socially distanced she can. We have a section for that but if you also want to take responsibility for your own health you can come in to the sanctuary and worship with us. And that's what they've been doing for several months now and the church has grown dramatically making a great impact. Anyway we're talking about social justice. I've heard people say you don't even need the word social in front of justice but if you want to use the term social justice you've gotta make sure you know what it means today as i say it used to mean care for orphans and widows the poor the unborn in other words bringing justice socially now it means that oppressed groups must be liberated the oppressed groups. You know the oppressed groups people's of color and look. There's some truth to this. Obviously there is there has been oppression and sometimes is oppression forms of racism and these kinds of things but the solution called critical theory is worse than the disease and go back to our show with neil chenevey just a couple of weeks ago on social justice in critical theory to go far deeper. Also of course they're going to say. Lgbtq and immigrants and indigenous people these are people are all oppressed groups and they need to be liberated from the oppressors. That's what social justice means today. Oh also any group. That's non-christian is an oppressed group. So christians are the oppressors according to this critical theory this of course denies this. Definition of social justice denies our unity in christ or three where paul says in christ jesus. You're all children of god through faith for all of you were baptized into christ. All of you who are baptized into christ have closed yourself with christ. There is neither junior gentile neither slave nor free. There is neither male or female. You're all one in christ. Jesus yeah those distinction still exists. We're not denying aren't mad men and women. We're not denying there aren't jew and gentile. We're not denying the fact that there are at that point slave meaning servants or free people they exist but they're unified in christ that all those people are equal in christ that we ought not be treating them differently because they're equal in christ and social theory or i should say critical theory is that it creates animosity. Between different groups it creates inequality between different groups. Exactly what it's saying it's trying to alleviate it's producing harvard by the way thought. It had too many asians. So they decided to penalize asians by requiring them to have higher. Sat scores than other ethnic groups. This is what critical theory does this. They considered this to be social justice. Let's penalize the achievers because they're doing too well and we gotta even all this stuff out. Well if that's the definition of social justice on any part of it and neither does jesus neither do the apostles. They don't wanna treat. They don't want individual behavior to be usurped under group identity. But that's what critical theory does. That's what social justice means today. It means to liberate oppressed groups by actually. Just oppressing the so-called oppressors. It does exactly the opposite of what it's supposed to be doing it. Turns martin luther king on its head. I have a dream that one day. My children will be judged based on the content of their character rather than the color of their skin. Social justice today does exactly the opposite of judges people as groups based on the color of their skin rather than the content of their character. There are many other words. Actually there are words out there that are used to make you. If you hold a particular position sound ugly so in addition to try and beautify sinful behavior they try and make righteous behavior sound ugly so if you disagree with someone they may call you a bigot. Use that word big at now the easiest way to defuse this if somebody calls you a bigot is just stop and say what do you mean by bigotry. Define that for me. What do you mean by that. is it. because i don't agree with you. I'm a big well if that's the case you're a big because you don't agree with me where you're coming up with this definition of bigotry. I asked that wants to same sex marriage advocate. He called me a bigot. Because i had written the book correct not politically correct. And i said what do you mean by bigotry. He said fear and intolerance just two more words that needed to be defined. That's not the definition of big dream. Definition of bigotry is prejudging things. Before you have any evidence for the position or even going against the evidence that you already know. And i said sir with all due respect if anyone's a big issue because i've written an entire book on this topic which you haven't read you don't even know why i believe what i believe in your calling me a bigot. So you are prejudging me without any evidence. That's what bigotry is. You may be called a hater. What is hater mean. Hater means you just disagree with me. Anybody that disagrees me by the way a hate group is any group of people that disagrees with me. See that that's what that means. This is not helpful because somebody disagrees with you. They're not necessarily a hater. they'd just may have a different opinion. They may have different facts that they've discovered that you don't know about. They may actually be right and by the way. Would you be a hater if you disagreed with them. If all disagreement means the person disagreed is a hater. Then everybody's a hater in the word means nothing anymore. Their word intolerant. We've talked about it but they'll call you. Intolerance intolerant doesn't tolerate mean. You just disagree with me. Actually what it means now is it describes anyone who doesn't agree with say a leftist. That's what intolerant means. Now there's an important caveat here. The word intolerant does not apply to leftist. Who do not agree with christians or conservative. see tolerance is a one way street in other words and it's only the people who disagree with leftist ideology who are declared intolerant notice that conservatives rarely go around calling people intolerant we just. Don't we say look okay. The guy disagrees with me. I get it okay. Maybe as reasons okay fine. I'm sure there are exceptions. I'm sure they're ugly. People in both sides don't get me wrong but generally it seems like the left and cancel culture left now is trying to shutdown debate by calling people names the ad hominem in fallacy in logic. Where you just call your opponent names rather than deal with the argument anti choices another one. We mentioned that earlier. You're anti choice. You're also called a homophobe. Your call to transform your called an islamophobe all these phobias. Supposedly you express some skepticism about islam. Suddenly you're an islamic job. You express some skepticism about young girls. Transitioning at eight years old by taking hormone blockers or other drugs are actually having surgery and suddenly. You're a transphobic. Yeah i count me down as transphobic if transphobia means i'm trying to protect little girls or little boys for making life altering life altering decisions that will dramatically affect them for the rest of their lives yet. Call me a job i am. I do have a phobia of treating children that way. We shouldn't do that. That's called child abuse for some sort of political agenda. Know what we need to do is we need to follow the truth. And if you look at the truth if you look at the evidence for this this is not something that ought to be done. Fact abigail schreier has a book out. I can't remember the name of it but she's it's basically saying that i could look it up while i'm sitting here. It's basically pointing out the dangers of changing a putting young children through this. It's called irreversible damage. That's the name of the book the transgender cray seducing our daughters it was initially taken off the shelves at target target and then after enough. People say this is wrong. It went back on the shelves there. At target i don't go to target traditionally because of their political stance. But it's getting to the point where you can't go anywhere now but anyway irreversible damage. She's just pointing that. She's not transphobic. She's caring about young girls. They don't have the capacity to make those decisions at that age and yet joe biden said yeah at eight year old girl. She be able to make that choice. When you're eight years old you don't know enough to do that. And the data. Show that even if you're twenty eight years old and you your body you go through chance transgender surgery. It does not change your your future in a positive way. The suicide rate remains at nineteen times higher than the general public. Change a mental issue through surgery. If there's a if there's a there's a difference a mismatch between your psychology and your biology. You have to work to change your psychology. You don't change your bio. You can't change your biology. It's like anorexia if someone had a mismatch between their psychology and their biology. They think they're overweight when they're really dangerously thin. You don't give that person liposuction. You wouldn't affirm their psychological state. You would get them. Psychiatry to help them. And that's what we ought to do. But no you're called the transphobic. You say that these are all just words to silence you well. We ought not be silent france. If we want to help people we want to love people. 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So we had a good. We had a good morning together. We we we hung out. I made sure to get the roses and the and the chocolates and all the things. Okay. You know? Yeah. Did you see somebody show though, or no? Yeah. We're not sure what's what's still going? My my my cousin. He he runs Mystere. He's one of the guys back there. So I was going to see if he had anything going on tonight and see if he can get us back there runs it as in like he calls the shots. He's the big, man. He's not the big, man. But he calls all the shots on the lights and move in the stage and doing all this stuff. So it keeps everybody safe keeps everybody rocking and rolling. So I could see you doing something like that. Is you ever tried to bring you a board? He you know, what he's he's talked to me the last few times that he thinks I could be in the show you could he thinks I lied to you can. Seen you do it on Instagram at Bishop Gorman. Yeah, I I would like to do it. I I asked him the other day. 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They have some really in this show. It's it's full of really really talented people. I mean, they all have different abilities. But I I do believe I could do a lot of those things hangs it too. Yeah. Thanks coup. Well, hope you enjoy the rest of your Valentine's and happy Valentine's Day to junky nation. Hope y'all have some people may have already had the day because we're worldwide audience. So some of you may already be winding down or just getting ready to go out you save out there a lot of rain here in Vegas things. So cows the sands where eighty percent of the people we know chill when reside. So. Big black cloud out there. It was unbelievable. I mean, it it's coming in. You know when we were driving in. There's two crashes on the freeway I had to take Flamingo all the way down. I mean, it is bad out there right now. Yeah. Mean, I couldn't believe it. I I looked and it past us, but it was just a big heavy dark gray cloud. And it looked like maybe downtown Vegas was about the just get splashed heart Las Vegas is very flat. And it's just not built for rain. So when it does rain, it's awful. Yeah. And a lot of people live down there inside the tunnels from what I understand in Las Vegas, though on this big rain tunnels here and people live in them. And so in the water hits. I mean, people get flush out of their beds or like on crates one of the house, you can go in there. Like, I've seen people say I'm not going to do a documentary, you know, on the tunnels Vegas. British good. I don't know. But. But one of them was near the stadium because I remember him like the way he was talking you could just see Mandalay bay in the background right now. Same hadn't been built yet. This was like three years ago that I was watching it. And I was like really, and it was like in that area. He just kind of went into an area where all the sudden he was in some tunnels. And when they looked out for rain. That's what they would do is they use like milk crates, and then their beds on top of it for that rainy day. Most people don't think that Vegas gets any rain. I mean, even when I was moving here. I didn't think it got much rain. But when I got here you see trash cans going down the road. Sometimes you're seeing cars can be sliding, and it's really hard is the link right goes what used to be imperial palace behind. I mean, they just get thumped. And they haven't been able to figure it out for thirty years. They they just always get them you great. And I'm thinking, okay, I could see a couple of times. But at some point there's got to be an engineer that goes, we got to prevent the just keep changing insurance companies. You know, it's pretty bad. Take a car. There are a lot of insurance companies. Have you noticed it is working who gets all these insurance companies everybody, I know is either state farm die AllState. I don't know anybody who's got farmers insurance for starters. I'm not a farmer. So I don't know why they even chose that name. Do you know, many Geico people? I never even seem like a Geico where do you go? Yeah. Remember, the stripper that hit me. She had gyco. Oh, anybody with farmers. I know a lot. What's the farm? I know some people with ahead mercury or humor family here while, but yeah, I don't know anybody who are these people and it's nonstop commercials that gentlemen, he's out there. They're making money when the commercial can be on the Super Bowl. Thank money AllState. Farmers. I forgot about the general. There's a lot of them out there. They make good money manager. It's companies they pretend like they get hammered with earthquakes and hurricanes and whatever, but you guys heard about the God clause because heard about that of. So if it's a natural disaster. It's the God clause in the act of God, right or active guy, cover it. They will not cover. It. Come on. You're out. Really? It's not an accident has got to be a hundred percent. It's hail. Right. Who is one of them L ident your whole car? Oh, sorry. We can't do anything about the not gone. That's an that. He wanted the hair. Would you be off better off saying I was pulling up and some kids? Do rocks absolutely story building. I may go. Absolutely. You just have to lie straight up. But it's not I'm in they're lying to you. Can't you just take him the court and just sit around and go into this God witness showing up? I think I got this one year witnessed in show up. Do it is really rough out there with the insurance companies couldn't a tree like fallen your car in a storm, and that would be active God, right guy. It comes down to too much money is definitely an act of God can be covered the act of God is not cover. That's when you get jacked. I could see myself going. It's one hundred bucks a month. But we don't cover the act of God. Then you come back to me go. I want the active guy, then I go. Well, then it's one twin? There's gotta be a price needs to be a price. It's like a bad. Maybe there's gotta be you know, if you par lay it, then then we'll cover it. Yeah. Yeah. It's a deep game. I mean insurance they're making money. I got a buddy named gave who has. Let me see if I can get the Stradey walked in and the ground was just soaked, and I guess his water heater busted, he went to a I guess, I better be careful. A company. Who said sorry. We don't cover it. And it had to do something with just your condo association. Anyone you kidding me? And he paid seven granny had to do it again. No, then. Yeah, he had to pay out of his own pocket. So then he went back after it was done and it happened again. But no sorry. He went to the insurance company and said now, can I get whatever supplemental coverage I need to cover this. And they said yes, it was another water damage, but this time it wasn't the water heater was something else. And they still way with the play an ace up their sleeve. Sorry. We can't because of. I mean, he was livid, you know, and this same thing he had pre existing condition and help you finally the third time because it happened to them. I think third time and this time he was covered. But can you believe that guy's a third time third time, and I go, bro. What's the deal? And he goes, I don't I'm he owns a condo. So it's not like you can you'd have to sell a waterbed. I don't know. Why is it so many things going on refresher? But it was like about fifteen years ago. And I was like you gotta be joking. Waterbed story. I don't even know if I think I've told him this when we were kids he had a waterbed we had twin beds, but his waterbed and one time I accidentally popped it. Okay. Yes. That insane ethin-. So when he went to bed because it was just a leak, but when he went to bed he woke up in the middle of the night is underwear. So he thought he pissed the bed. So he took all sheets through them like in the closet or someone's trying to figure out what to do this is long lasting trauma. It turned out that he looked at it. And he goes, oh, man. You know, there's a hole in the bet. He's kind of. But it was me. I didn't do it on purpose. No no way to do. It. Do you remember yawn? Yeah. He had this trick. Where he. Yeah. He would put like a little needle through his shoe. And so when you would get one of these dumb balls, he would kick it and go, oh, man. I kicks hard. I pop the ball. So I thought that was cool. He was like ten years older than I was. And I did it and I forgot to take it out. So when I jumped on your bed, I had the thing, and it took the whole this guy's the reason. We can't go through airports without taking our shoes off. Yeah. It's pretty much. My phone. Put a needle inside my shoe. Bam. You know what? That story the you ever see roadhouse. Yes. Left boot number. A blade sticking out of the blue. I remember that surround with the orders their boot with that. I mean, that's your intention. I mean, just press knuckles work, right? Plates that cannot do. I don't remember what movie it was. But there was a switchblade comes out of a shoe to. I don't I it wasn't Austin powers. But something else I was right now for hours, but might have been something like that was something like that in the blade came right out. I always thought man now, it'd be how do you activate it who never made? Would you not want to take a liver kick from who's wearing that boot? You know? I would in day. It doesn't have to do with strength and any at any we I guess it has to do with accuracy. Right. Yeah. So. Anderson or Machida would have been a really rough one. They're definitely convenience. About crow crow copies. I mean, it just to get that's going to be hard. It's going to go deep. It's gonna go in about Pat, Barry, yet, some kicks. I mean, I don't I don't wanna get kicked. By Pat, Barry without a night. I heard hard dunk hit hard hard on cats like well. Wow. Anyway. Yeah. I don't know. Why thought of that one? Speaking of Croke up he and ROY Nelson fight this weekend. Some really really good bell tower fights going on this weekend that will discuss its own point belt two fifteen to sixteen back to back. Just for example, they have a tally McCaw versus a chick Congo. They have ROY Nelson versus Mirko CRO com. They have MVP Michael venom page versus Paul daily. I mean, you know, you can't you can't argue with some of the talent on display. I wish it was all on one card, but it's two separate nights in unconcealed, Connecticut. We got you covered him and may jump and then of course, that's Friday Saturday Sunday. We have you have see on ESPN one. I got you guys. The odds of you wanna take a peek. That's headline by Francis. Ain't gone new and came Velazquez we'll ask us finally returns after over two and a half years of not fighting. I guess the last time he thought was when he fought what were you in Travis is corner that night, I wasn't travis's corner that. Cain. Look great than I did shirt. Kane. Kane was couldn't believe that unstoppable. At. I think you could read one the title that night. He was so good. Yeah. I mean, he looked awesome. But I guess he's had injuries and then maybe a little spat with the UC over contract negotiations was supposedly he's back. And in the meantime, it kinda worked for Daniel community because he was able to move up to heavyweight win the title, and I think. Between one and three fights left in his contract. He'll move out of the way. And then I guess Cain will try and resume champion spot at the top. I still would love to see those two actually scrap in a fight not not that they ever will. But I'll tell you even though they're in the same camp when it comes down to the gold. You know, what better fight to have you you get to fight your friend. But then you get to really lay it all out there on the line. And you both know each other's game. You both know how each other's plays. It would either make for the most exciting fight you'd ever see or the most boring fight. And I honestly I'd be willing to take the risk on the pay per view. You know, I've thought a lot about those types of fights those guys, especially at gym like AK, who's got a reputation for you know, the really really turn it up. They go hard. I'm sure they've knocked each other down maybe out probably out for sure, but not with the intention like I'm going in there to hurt you just happens while you're sparring distant tents. Correct. And I think they're not scared of hurting each other. I think they're just scared of probably one of them knowing that the other guys better, they'll alw-. Complement each other gives me how he'd kick my ass. If I cane would say the same thing DC, he's the man I would never wanna fight DC. I think it's just being scared of really find out who is the promotes. Other best of seven series or one was kind of like one time, and that might be it, especially with DC's age. But I yeah, you're right. I mean, let's just say both of these were Uber popular fighters. I mean, and they are popular. But let's just say they were like pay per view. God totally and it could sell at one point five million. I wonder if they would seriously consider going you wanna do this? Let's just do it. I think it would be so exciting for me a he controls his career so tightly that that. It'd be very hard to ever see it. But it would be awesome. It would be awesome to watch the two of them get down. Remember when slick caustic and Fitch wouldn't fight each other. Yeah. Always say if you wanna see his fight come down Wednesday went sorry, Monday Wednesday Friday. That's when we do live sparring at aka, we tear each others heads off, and I understood and respected their stands. But I just always felt like it could prohibit one of them from maybe being a world champion because I think the dam like so they gave them the the hard road road. And. As it turns out, neither of the three got to be a world champ Cossack fought for a world title instead of John. I mean, it could just be that they happened to be in the juice Pierra to timing is everything though came up short against Harvey. Because remember the winner got the shot s. Yes. Yes. Yeah. So sometimes that's just the business. You're in you know. Yeah. I think I think it would be exciting. I think there's a lot of camps that would do it. And as a coach, I think it'd be really cool for the coaches to go to go. Okay. We're doing the camp. All right. This coach you go help them this coach you go help them. And then when it comes fight time Bigica to sit in the chairs and let their guys do what they're gonna do and kind of like the ultimate fighter went to guys from the same team. Get to the end split coaches. You just go. I I right here we go. And I think that would I think it'd be really cool for a camp. I mean, if you have a guy in the Olympics going for a silver and a gold at the same time. I mean, it looks good on your camp looks real good. Yeah. They always have the backup card. You know? If if all the sudden one of them were to lose the other one stepping right in they can always reclaim that title right away at this point where mixed martial arts has evolved. We see a lot in boxing where one coach sticks to one trainer. And or when one coach and one fighter has a couple here and there, but really his bread and butter comes from one that's starting to happen in mixed martial arts now where. Victim. They get away from the teams. And it's just but if things don't go, right? Most of the blame usually hits that coach right absolutely talk a little bit about that dynamic. I mean, I think it's very difficult out there for a lot of the coaches. I mean, they're they're caught up in a in a game where you know, if if they win it's it's the fighter. No matter. What it doesn't matter who it is what drills been done what's going on? I mean, it's the genetics. It's the talent. It's what he's done. But if they lose, you know, they're they're looking for that scapegoat to make sure they get another career fight and the game set up that way. I mean, there's no complaints. You know, you step into the game as a coach, you know. That's what's going to go on. But the truth is they gotta look at Dana and say when Dana says why the hell did you mess that up? And he goes it was him. Oh, okay. If you get rid of him, I'll give you another fight boom. You could move in. Now, he's not gonna say it like that ever. But that's kind of how the system is set up. It's it's hard because there are certain lessons down the road for these guys. And I wish I could tell every fighter in the world. And I'm talking every fighter is not work with me period. You I'd look across the board. And I'd say, you know, this coach has certain lessons at it takes a certain amount of time to get each lesson. And you have to stick it out with that guy for certain amount of time. If you just do one one session one one fight camp, your very surface were very much surface with this guy. But all these coaches are tried and tested. They got one hundred fights in the UFC under their belt. You should probably stick it out with them for years and years if you ever really want to get down into the mentality and then into the willpower, though is going to be my next question in football. There's been teams that have won maybe one game, you know. And then the next year it takes awhile for that coaches philosophy to really sink in. Absolutely. And then things start to happen in. College because there's so many different players coming in. And now, you can't really judge a coach until about the third fourth year in mixed martial arts, how many fights would you say it would be fair to judge a coach on. That is a that is a great question. I think it kind of depends on where the guy comes from. Let's say the guys at college level wrestler. You know, he's changed coaches before. So he has the ability to go from high school to college. Wrestling, change coaches, he might have even been peewee. So he he's changed coaches several times so he can get into the philosophy much quicker inside at three or four years. The guy became a national champion. So that guy I would say within two three four years. He's going to pick up the information. Now, you take let's say a kid who comes from Ecuador. He's been with his coach for nineteen years. He's never left him. Then he moves to the United States. It's going to be traumatic for him. You know, like an eight year old dog leaving their owner. It's it's they're going to be confused. Not know how to be around not know about this new mentality. Maybe they'll they'll misplace it and think the guy's angry with them when he's really just trying to help them. It could be vice versa thinks he's happy with them. When really the guys just trying to give him, you know, he's not really happy with them. So. So it takes time to get to know somebody, and it takes time to to know that their hearts in the right place in the really working with you. But I would say it comes down to to how long the guy has been in the game. And how many times he's been able to change coaches successfully? That's very important. Have you gotten any of these guys that just have that raw talent? And I'll give you an example. Right. We've had lots of fighters where we asked them if you were to talk to your high school classmates and tell them you're fighter. What would they say? And it's a lot of them would say, yeah. That makes sense. He was kind of like that in high school. And then there's some people like Michael Chandler who just signed a big fight. He's fighting Patricia Friday champ versus champ. That's a kid that really wasn't like a big fighter was a wrestler. But he never really thought he could do it. And then he started doing it. He just was kind of a natural fit. You come across some those guys. It's just natural fit. I I've come across them on on different levels, really different levels. One one guy that I one athlete that I've come across just this year. On my wrestling team. I'm not going to drop his name on hair just because he's underage and in high school, but I'll tell you he could fight this kid could go to the UFC one day. He's naturally just a mugger. He likes to he likes to hit guys and take him down hard. He's not out there trying to be smooth. I mean, he is he is hoping to get in a fight. And I haven't had one match this whole season head over twenty five matches. Not one match didn't have blood time over two minutes in the match. And I mean this kid just gets down time blood town. So in wrestling, let's say two kids wrestling with one another you know, you cross face. You hit them hard with a collar tie. They shoot a shot you block with your head. You might cut their face or cut their eye-opener break their nose and blood coming out if that happens, you have five minutes, total of blood time to stop the bleeding and get back out there on the well, this kid has blood time every match every match the rat Housego stop. There's too much blood on the mat, I need somebody clean it up and clean up. The kid. So that's an example. And I think that's a mindset, you know, he has a mindset where he enjoys he enjoys to go out there and get get into the into the thunder a little bit. What was what was the making the others leader? He's bleeding. Oh, they're all bleeding ochre. They're all bleeding, and I mean, there is the thirty th not dirty whatsoever. Okay. Just the matches intensity. It is where where a lot of people's match intensity. They're thinking and trying to make a setup, and it's sitting inside of a certain beat pattern his more like heavy metal. You know? It's just it's explosive in it's rough. And it's intense. I mean when he pulls he pulls hard when he hits he hits hard. He's a junior is one hundred and forty five pounds, and he squats over three hundred pounds as the pick your brain a little bit about him. A me he has he's jujitsu kid started in jujitsu came in did now he's wrestling, and you know, an engine and a lot of time. It's all slow moving this kid likes to get down. So I see guys like that. What was the old champions Dame? He beat Evan Tanner lost Anderson Silva, he was the biology rich Franklin rich Franklin. I mean who would have thought rich Franklin become champion of the world. Matt teacher math teacher mean it'll be here soon Willie. Oh, man, come to the student. He's an animal. He was an animal, and he's a great example of that just somebody who has just raw talent. He he he liked to get down any he acts in the moment. And I think that's probably the most important part of fighting is is you may have all the weaponry. You may have all the all the stuff. But do you have the ball support the trigger? When the time is right. Yes. No is your season over my season is over and go. Due season went great. Actually, I'll all my kids outperformed what I ever thought they do this this last year a couple of my kids. They ended up being I have an all American of an all American in college. I don't know if you remember I was training training girl named Allison pedic's she she ended up going to former national champions. And now she's an all American Frank Mears daughters on my team. She just won the state title for for women. Bunch of kids went to St. bunch of kids or there are a lot of women programs. They're not a lot of women programs. But there are some women strong teams. So so you end up with several women fighting inside of a weight category. But they might come from the same team. Like what we're talking about with aka? So they can some are just women programs. Don't fight with them in. That's right. Okay. That's right. And in your case fight with the men. Okay. Oh, wow. I liked I liked to get him out there and have a fight with them. And now when your daughter is a state champion where boys were involved as well. No, she she is a state champion over all the women. However, I make sure she fights the men so she goes out there, and she wrestles the guys and that that's a whole that's a whole different game. When you start to get into the one fifty weight category. It's strong, and she's she's a little tank. I mean, she gets out there. She she. She wrestles hard. So so she's she's getting down. Wow, that's cool to to hear all it's really cool. It's good hearing about how talented she is. And that's her destiny is to be. She is a fighter like if you ask her. What do you want to be? When you grow them may fighter. There's none of this like nurse or no, she's she's playing contact sports. You know, my my big hope for her is that, you know, she's she's gotta be she's got to be careful and make sure she stays away from any yes-men inside this inside this world. I mean Franks, obviously, Huntington Natalie's there. Yeah. And run interference. You have to you have to be around people that they really don't care what your last name is. And they're going to say it like it is they're gonna look in the face. And they're going to say, hey, you know, you suck or hey, you better get up the rope. Or hey, you better go wrestle that match. And you gotta go out there and wrestle matches that you're gonna lose. You know, if you're undefeated the truth is you're not wrestling better. You're not wrestling hard enough guys. And and at this age, this is the age that you gotta get out there and do those things so she's a freshman this year if she continues to grind, I could see her going. Collagen Russell or she could do anime if she wants to. But she's got she's got hone interstates. There are some really scary tough girls out there. I mean, there really are as we've seen in the UFC. So if she wants to hit that level, she's got a knuckled down. Wow. So there's a lot of talented females that are coming. There are a lot of talented for. Yeah. And in fact, at this year this year loan at St. with the boys we had three women inside of this state that we're competing against the men at state and only nine the states different. The most states only nine can go to state, so they they really filter it down through the through the system. So by the time you get there. You're already top nine in your weight category. My thesis or hypothesis I should say. When we first started out Heus shamrock. Then we get to the second or third show and along come the Severn by the ten show that was Coleman Severn. We had about like a Schultz eight good fighters. Yeah. Where you could go to see them in an ultimate ultimate, and they did do that. I think the women are a little bit past that. But you know, how right now we have like literally forty awesome lightweights that you can just pick their name out of a hat absolute. And we'd have a great fight. I think we're about like five ten years away from that. But there's going to be a lot of female talent that comes through. And they'll starts to look like the UFC looks now. But I still think they're not I wouldn't say like leather helmets Ceja pioneer stage. But just past that, well, if you go back in time K during Rhonda rouses era, she she won by submission the most with what armour from bar. Well, the other person who tied that number was hoist Gracie. So how come the first people inside of those divisions? We're hitting so many are bars. I guess because others didn't know how to defend they didn't know how to work it yet. They kept getting caught. And I'm not saying, no, let me tell you Ron Rousey his arm bar is on another level. I am for real her her arm bar in my opinion would be better than hoist gracie's. There's there's no doubt about it. Really? But if we talked praise meal, she has an incredible arm bar and Heus has an incredible arm bar, but but the way she can transition from throw to an arm bar is very different than Heus is very different. So if we're talking transition on the takedown and the overall game and how to get to an arm bar. We saw how fast she could im- implement that in a real fight. Now that being said if you're just looking across the board at stats, and you just look at how this game is played in the very beginning. The arm bar was the first volition of fighting people don't tuck their arms, they get left out there in the middle of scramble so hoist Gracie Ronda Rousey, both the beginning of the era, and they're both landing the same move. And now those records they haven't been beaten. I'm thinking about the so the one advantage. I'll give. Us is he did it in no weight class. Right. Doing it with monsters dance Evans, like two times the size true. But he'll say, gee, gee, okay. Does help Rhonda at Neve. One was interesting. Yeah. All right. Let's stop right there. We gotta take a break. Listening to MA junkie radio on fight nation channel ninety three. Ricky Landell is our guest co host for the day. Our other guests today will be UC ventilate T J dillashaw. He'll be tweeting us way in the second hour. So we've got plenty of time to take calls discuss the latest news forecast belt or two fifteen to sixteen Friday and Saturday respectively. And of course, you'll see on ESPN one which is Sunday. So don't touch that. Dial. And we'll be right back. Threatening you flew into the fight then the ring announcer. Get this is your home for all things combat theories XM fight nation channel ninety three and on your phone with the Sirius XM app. To your boss to reschedule the meetings, fill your wife until her lunch lunches off. It's time for enemy junkie radio with gorgeous, George and goes the candor RV dual at Daytona is the final qualifying event for nascar's because race the Daytona five hundred and it's underway. Now on channel ninety find out how the field stack up for the great American race tonight on Sirius XM NASCAR radio again. That's channel eighty special goes for the day is Vicki Lynn Dell and what an interesting jet there when we kind of mentioned how Rhonda replicated a little bit of what hoisted yet. And it ends pretty cool to really think about that. You know, similar records domination just the other day. I got a little bit wowed by Israel out of Sonya saying, hey, if the main event falls off and the champ was supposed to get. Paper viewpoints, whatever that money like the UC hold onto that money. He was saying maybe we should become and say we being him and Anderson Silva, and I swear I thought I sat there, and I go why like why have I never thought of that? Why would I not even heard of that? Or maybe sound argument. Maybe it's been out there. And I just haven't heard of yet that's pretty sound. And then when hearing Ricky say it's been a fun, which is hearing these interesting bits the same way you reacted though. I'm curious if the UFC said that is a pretty good argument or if they went damn seven finally figured it out. I think so because you see has they have this. I think it's one point six five million is what it takes to put on a show average. And this is about a five year ago. Fact said somebody told me. So that includes all the fighters purses. Right. I don't think anybody was like making five hundred show or anything like that yet. It was still like two hundred three hundred or whatever which was big maybe it was about eight years ago, or so it was all the fighters was the whole staff hotel rooms per Deums production like to put on a show you needed to one point six five to make that anything after that was profitable. They would hit that all the time. Without a problem right by how much I don't know. That's why wouldn't you get these eight hundred thousand dollar pay us. It's a massive show for them, the others. Just kind of like, oh, man. We didn't do great in Prague. All right. Did we break even to become closed, and we make a little whatever. But you definitely make it on some of the paper views, and that prog show may have been kind of like almost a form of advertising right for the bigger shows that are coming up, but they just have a really really smooth running machine. So I gotta say I always thought it was a credible, George when they when they all the sudden started putting on more shows, you can tell him it's money. They were actually starting to generate because we went from four shows a year where we were all having a barbecue hanging out to all the sudden there's fifty two shows a year there's one on Saturday and Wednesday. Yeah, you gotta get ready because the ultimate fighter is going to happen. And the show at one point six five million. There must have been some serious cash flow without remember refreshing, the G website, just hoping that would be something on there. It is would do that. Or? Day weekly just had all their news on one page. You woke up you went to EMMY weekly or shirt up junkie fighting. None of those guys were around and just weekly happen to be the first place that went so I was a fan of theirs Ryan Bennett recipes, and it was all on one page. You know, so it was almost like just cracking open the front or just the newspaper, and it was there. And you'd read it, and it was pretty cool and some days are better than others. And of course, Ryan thought, hey, why don't we have separate pages to create more hits to the website? Right. And I'm also going on man. Look the other way I liked it because it was just like one big page. All right. But we'll we'll do anything to help out the side you'd have to sit there and click and go to the news. But yeah, I built out junkie. Why did you? Tuck tapped on my police there you go. You know, you go to the weekly show you're trying to find out what's going on. And then you guys just went. No shell because I'm sick a clicking. What's going on? Now. So junkie was just created by a guy named danced up in two thousand six. Uh-huh. And what he wanted to do was bring a little bit more formal journalism. No disrespect to shirt auger weekly or anybody else. But I think a lot of those came from. You know, college educated people, but they just maybe didn't they weren't from journalist journalistic background, right? He wanted to start a blog, but bring formal journalism, and he just was very innovative. Like he was the first to go. Hey, State Athletic commissions. That's public. We can get the salaries we can find out more about the injuries and things like that. And I think they were one of the first bring ratings don't quote me on this is remember having a conversation with Dan. And he had told me about some of the things that they had done. You know, I remember coming to your guys is site for the first time. I it was it was like two thousand seven I I just got my black belt maybe a year or two before. And I came to the site. And I remember I could blog I could check things out. And it was like, wow, this way, cooler sway better. Yeah. Because before I just had to read whatever information was in front of me. But when you were able to actually write something back or connect with people the big difference. Do remember you guys had kind of a market hold. Yeah. Different. Look, you know, the way it was written out. And then, of course, just different types of articles that were just refreshing. And then a lot of the stuff, yuck. Duplicated with sure dog and and weekly had done. And and we're thriving in you know, but it's just a little bit different. And so just to finish that goes on. I had done tag radio with Frank Trigg. And then we would basically do interviews for Emma may junkie, we kind of did an informal partnership. And then eventually they said we want you to be MMA junkie radio. Guys. You just triggered me on something. Have you seen Lucifer? The show on Netflix. I'm watching it, frankly. Frank Trigg, he doesn't stay one line. But I literally pause the show, right? Me might be on say watch. It all the time who is letting me be here on Valentine's Day, by the way. So big shout out to Lindsey. But I I literally I'm sitting there. I clicked pause. And there is Frank Trigg turned sideways with his ear is fake sprite. And I'm like that's not him. I walk up on the TV. Oh, yeah. You could tell by our air fortune cookie. Yes. I'm like I had to text him out of the blue like, dude, what are you doing on my favorite show right now? Because I I've been watching it like crazy Hawaii. Oh, quite a bit of them. Then next episode. They do an EMMY kinda set up where they actually fight in the cage. And I don't know. So you guys are going to have to find out for me. But was he doing the choreography for that Emma may five on the other show? Show. When Frank gets on the set he is really good at networking and finding out who's doing what. And how can I be part of his your future can open the door. And he's pretty explicit on the show. I'm not outing or anything if that he's a hustler, right? You know what I mean? So I could see him just being on the set. And then somebody he was on there. He gets you know, you'll. Didn't say much. Guy of a sudden, I thought I overheard. I used to put you know. And then he gets in there, and he's a charming and well-spoken and all that. And so I could just see him getting in there. And it was awesome. Here's a mobster something he was just in the background. But you could tell it was Frank trick. Yeah. No doubt who who did the choreography for lethal weapon. The movie come on say, no. Yeah. Forty and Gracie. The more and more. We're talking about this the more and more. I'm getting upset because you Sirius XM people that are listening right now. Have it very very easy. Turn on the show every day. We're going to tell you everything that's going on in the insurance world and then touch on that mixed martial art. Do you ever drive into the Gracie academy asking them is there? A new Gracie in action yet is there anyone calling blockbuster on. I heard tack Tara fought Gary Goodridge in Japan. Does anybody have this? They would hang up on me. They would just hear my voice, and they go. No, it's not here yet. Really, do you guys have no idea what we went through information? People would trade VHS. Because you all were a member of the same forum at the original house Gracie videos, the actual VHS health Gracie videos, when I started jitsu, it was it was a crazy time is nine hundred ninety two UFC started the next year. All of a sudden, the gracie's were like jumping into all these action videos, and I was just a little kid like, wow, I saw that guy on TV. Wow. I saw that guy on TV and they're just like right there on the men in front of me. It was a crazy time period. And they was very small group very small now. Like you said earlier the one forty five hours. You could literally point at anyone. It'd be like, wow. They're really good. They're really good. But back in the day, if you saw purple belt from Brazil, I mean in all seriousness, a purple belt that was like mind blowing like there's no there's there's the gracie's there's a black belts like Pedro Sauer, and the Machado's nobody else in a purple belt shows up you'd be like, oh my gosh. This guy might as well be like Thor. And everybody else's owed and over here. Like, this is incredible. We his crazy time nineteen ninety nine. We had a one Brazilian cat in the studio, of course, very stereotypical. But again, this is kinda how rare it was almost funnel to these stereotypes. And last name, of course, was Silva Christus shadow Christian Silva, right? And he would run the grappling. And he was a guy, and he was only maybe like, maybe a blue belt appropriate level if that, but but credit was was that Jesus Christ because he could show us the arm bar, and it was and it was don't leave your elbows Vegas Vegas. It was it was just so rare. You know, you guys come through. And like, oh, you know, we're fighters of this and that and like karate federal some called K one with K one because he didn't realize of course, they're coming through cut Coker back in the day. But the rate is I don't know how much I can say about exactly where this all happened. But at the time presuming guys we've come out, and then people would find people for them to marry where I came from for real the country. So they'd come in sleep on the mat if you were purple belt Brown belt in that area. Oh, they're gonna find your wife. It was going to happen because they wanted you here. It was like it was like when Dave Schultz and marshals for smuggling the Russians into this prepare for yards. And I mean, it was a crazy time where it was like we need training. And it's in another country. We don't we don't have YouTube. We don't have streaming. Wow. How we can get the info gotta get them here. And I would come in. Oh, ninety two of those no internet or I mean, there was early. Yeah. If you had a fifty two K modem, you're Rockin. Oh, yeah. He's had to hope. Nobody picked up the phone. Oh, hey, we'll took an song. Pick on worse. I did it to the Hammy did him in. Like, a long Email to a girl or something lifted up. America online's. Once a month. You guys are right? This is a different time. It is if you just joined him, a may you you don't know what it was like even fighters. Okay. When when I first moved here. I remember. So we would do the show we still we're still with Frank Trigg. Yes. And after the show at go, what are you doing? I'm waiting to find out where we're going to train. What does that mean? Because I'm waiting for Frank MIR to call okay, Frank MIR calls, Marvin Eastman said we're going to jail today. And that's how they would figure out where they're going like they had no idea they'd have to ask for like certain places in the dorm thing it was craving time period where you literally had to go to a wrestling room. There's no other way. There's no wrestling coach at school you had to go to wrestling room. Then you had to go to jujitsu school and you training dis. Just so, you know in America, you training. Geek, there's no no Keith going on. And if you did train Nogi, you were you were one of those foot lock guys, I bet. And that was that was not okay that's dirty in some schools. Still dirty right mean now as a big deal. And then if you wanted to box you'd go to boxing gym. I want to do my tie. You gotta go to a multi gym. And we do not cross pollinate. It was not. Okay. It was a different time period. I remember when I this true story, I was going into wrestling. Okay. And I go in when I first met the Sanderson's. I was I tried to I tried to get on the wrestling team. They turned me down flat because I was just jitsu guy. And they were like no way, no way. It wasn't until I won the world team trials that they were like we want you on our team. We're gonna come back out, and I had met them because I tried to even get a tryout, and they said, no. So they watch me at the world team trials with their guys. And then they brought me out and the vice versa. I try to get wrestlers to come into the school full, man. That was not okay. You didn't bring wrestlers in the school for wrestler came in the school. You would hear something. Like, hey, take it easy on him. And they'd click like that. And that meant you got Jack them, man. Oh, man. Green roof quick. We gotta take a break the second break. Oh the first hour. Remember in the second hour, we do have UFC bantamweight J dillashaw coming up. So don't touch that. Dial. We'll be right back kind of fun going down memory lane. There's all green lights news out. There is a big fight that Bill for is is just broken beltway twenty one I'll tell you about that. When we come back. So stay close don't touch that. Dial Chuck radio fight nation channel nineteen. The only channel dedicated to covering all sides of the fight game. This is there is XM by nation channel ninety three. You're both reschedule that lady. Call your wife until her lunches off. It's time for more intimate junkie radio with gorgeous, Jordan goes. Earlier today. Bill Tor, Emma main broke, some news big fight, Michael Chandler, and Patricia frady are gonna headline bell toward twenty one on may eleventh. So I know we've been talking about bell towards fifteen to sixteen back to back this weekend. But that was some interesting new, so they got they got themselves a super fight. They're the lightweight champion versus the featherweight champion, and they have a little bit of a history in that Michael Chan there has beaten deal to brother. So, you know, the little brother wants a little bit of revenge. But that'll be interesting because you know, a little bit of history there when you get the champions, whereas champions has done easy fight for for anybody. Michael Chandler, Michael Chandler. He he has so much experience at this point. I mean doesn't matter if you're older brothers fought him or not so hard fight for anybody. Yeah. Big time. And then one other thing quick plug for enemy tonight yesterday. Had stone cold Steve Austin on the show. So remember you can download any of the shows. Those are. Well, sorry. What it says? Yeah. I guess I guess that's what I'm saying on the series accent map commercial free at an HD quality. All of our shows are available that are on the channel busted, open Thomas show, and may junkie and may tonight at the fights. They're all there, again, HD quality and commercial free. And you should check out. Don't go. Steve Austin, get his MMA on man that guy. I was a great energy a sport. Like, you know, he wasn't just picking, you know? Oh, boy that Rhonda's tough. I mean, like, I mean, he was actually knew this talking about Israel out of Sonya. And just you know, a lot of the other lot of the other fighters a lot of the news in our sport. And we have some cuts that I want you guys to here. But I'm gonna save those for the second hour, I wanna cleanup chores. Chores mentioned stone cold, it's wrestling. This is Emma may win. Let me talk about how I'd let someone spitting my mouth for hunt outside. That was the last guy George Lascaux. They're coming out of a little bit, really. It was awesome. Dan, you had a question a number of questions. You did you get that with Rick here? We we kind of covered during okay. But I was going to add to that. Because we were you originally talking about you talking a couple of things I still I saved up. I got to say that. I think the ladies are passing the Chuck Ladele Tito Ortiz drama era, wherever there we're kinda heading into tough one. I think that's where we're about. I think we're past the ultimate ultimate credit there. I don't think we're, you know. Quite seeing you know, I it caught up, and that's not all sounds mean or disheartening discrediting, and it don't mean it that way. But I just wanted to weigh that in I think they're a little little bit further from there, and another topic will goes told me we're going to actually save for tomorrow. So I'll wait for that with the Hagler Hearns, which if you guys read my article of the of the year article, I did it from a may junkie should already know because actually wrote about that fight in comparative to fight that happened last year, the Hagler Hearns fight that we would use for mixed. Martial arts got it. So it's got have a stoppage can't go all the way to the distance. And it's just and it has to have to pretty meaningful fighters, we're going to do at the mall. That's got to be good Justin Buchholz pitched clay Guido who DC plead over sue. Yeah. That was a good grade that he referenced that top top ten for my most important top port might we've fights happen in the USC or help shape, the lightweight division in the one of them since we got a couple of seconds. Josh if you can be Johnny on the spot on the stone cold Steve Austin cuts can you play number six for me? Please rockers are very good friend of mine and DC is a friend of mine. Emma, chance to my podcast and clams. I think he's one of the smartest lawyers out there incredible lessons background at big overhand. Right. He's just his head. I q. His head. I q. So to see him brought out there would be a spectacle. And probably would maybe shatter every type of you record gypsy ads. Can you play number seventy kind of breaks it down a little bit? I know we're short on time. Whether we can get in. All the time articulated since us and stuff like that. And now he's back in the game appro wrestling. So you know, what let Bill raise they start that fight your job with the box. And. Quick is very strong background. But you're talking about DC you talking about the double champ chant chance, and you're so smart is so devastating. You know, I love letters to death. But we're talking about DC, the the double champ for no reason, man, he's very very dangerous. I'll I'll leave it at that. The kind of knows is waiver does other quits in their home in the second hour right now against the top of the hour break it's ever made junk radio on fighting nation channel eighty three. Stay close will be right back. And we talk a little bit with Ricky about his his book here. It's called one percent better. Every day Ricky Lendl's personal guy to back swats. That's his thing. Man. Every day doesn't right raking every day every day. So we'll talk a little bit about that talk a little bit about the bell tower cards. You'll see on ESPN all of it back. Come join us on the other side of the tracks. This is Sirius XM by nation channel ninety three. Hey, everybody. 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And that was my rude awakening to the show being chased around a field by Newman, and then him grabbing me and punch me in the face as a saying that everyone is when they first join which is welcome to the Walking Dead. And this it was said in this kind of like, you're just doing to Colt. Welcome to the working day. Watch live on the Evan T S Y. Youtube stream. Or the stretch marks only underbelly of the community. But hey stretch marks. So the new TAT's they are gorgeous tour ten goes. All right. We're back here on junkie radio. And if you're watching the video feed, you're gonna see me holding up a book. That is Brad Pitt. Can that's Ricky Lynn Dell. Posing there. One percent better every day. Ricky Lindos does personal guide to back squats Ricky when did the idea for the start, and how long did it take you from the moment, you thought about it to the moment, you completed it? So you don't I it's a strange, it's a strange situation. How I how I even got toback squats now, I I've already been competing. I've retired. I've been coaching UFC at been working in a lot of areas. This book captivates really my whole story from the beginning to where I got to squatting, and and I ended up I ended up here in this city. I went to a man called John Burroughs who who trains Olympia nzx in in strength and and him, and I became very good friends, and he started working with me on on my lifting. I wanna become more explosive my technique. It was tried tested and proven competed for team USA. I I'd wrestle. I'd wrestled for Cal Sanderson. I'd I'd earned my. Own gold medals. And I thought how can I get better? And it was always try to tell guys I mean in all truth. How I got to the place I got to and I about a decade ago. I was talking about getting one percent better. Everyday not not not some explosive. You know, you gotta you gotta give it one hundred ten percent today. You gotta do this. You got to do that. Just you gotta just get a little bit better every single day. And I went to this man, John Burroughs, and he he's standing there with me. And he and I say, hey, you know, I want to do something outrageous. You know, I wanna I wanna I wanna lift five hundred pounds. I want to be able to squat five hundred pounds. And he's goes. You're you're absolutely going to be able to squat five hundred pounds. It's not it's not going to be an issue. He goes. But you know, what you're going to have to do. It was like what what tell me what to do because I'll do it. I need to I need something to get better. Like, I I needed something for me. And he goes we're gonna have to you're gonna have to lift every single day. No break. No break. Not when we say every day. We mean our shows every day Monday through Friday you mean Monday through Sunday Monday through Monday. Wow. And they're through that through the gym. I was going to the gym thirteen times a week. I was lifting lakes thirteen times a week, and I was doing front squats back, squats, cleans and snatches. And and I'm talking every day. I didn't start until twenty six days before my thirtieth birthday. I documented every single day, and I would lift until failure every day. Now, I had doctors I had I had people who were in the fitness industry and all everybody, this is not. Possible. You can't do this. It's you what's going to happen. You're gonna go like this. Then you're going to do what's called overtraining. Then you're gonna crash and injured. Well, you know, I had chronic back pain from from training. I thought I had knee problems from training. I thought and I ended up proving it all wrong. I started with a two hundred seventy five pound back squat documented the entire thing at the end six hundred and fifteen pounds at one hundred seventy five pounds while it it's unbelievable. You wanna go to Instagram? Go to Ricky Landell, you can scroll down start looking at my videos. Follow my journey. It's unreal. I was snatching and continue my strength. My strength has never gone away. It's been it's been unbelievable. I mean, I fluctuate in talks about in the book, but I fluctuate up and down on my strength. So I would one day I could you know, squat four forty the next day. I could squat two hundred but your body could only do what your body could do. But then I started developing these different. Mentality's it talks about in this book. And I started understanding why I was able to compete at such a high level at such a young age because I had a mentality. Also, an only when your physical body breaks down. Can you get into the mental side of going to the gym, man? I'm so I'm so sore. I just you know, what I can't do. You know, what I'm gonna do it? I made a commitment. I'm going to do it. Now when you break into that. Then you start to break into the part where we all get excited when we watch rocky where it's about willpower where you get into the part where the physical side and the emotional side are gone. Well, how do you continue to keep moving? How do you keep going? What do you do? Well, you have to have willpower at that point. And what what happened was because I was lifting every single day. I mean everyday to max I would not stop until the bar dropped behind me. So I would go to seventy five the next day. I try to do to seventy six and over the course of five hundred days my numbers kept going like this now. And then I reached all time. Highs. So now, I wrote this book. It it disproves a lot of the training that is out there now and this book talks about and there's going to be a lot of people listening to this. And they're gonna say, no, I heard squatting blows out your knees. I heard it hurts your that yet. I've I've heard those things to my knees were trashed I was checking out a surgeon. We're talking about fixing them. What had actually happened was? There was there was degeneration because you're not going down and using the full muscle. So there was nothing protecting my knee joint. It was just the joint when you go all the way down, and you come all the way up what ends up happening. Is you start to develop muscles around your knees, and it protects them and same thing in your hips? Will that also connects to your back and one of the biggest one of the biggest things I get I get to give it to everybody. It'll help you if you have mid back problems, Kate those back problems have you problems right in the center your back, and they won't go away some kind of chronic. It's always aching what's because your arms are forward. All the. Time and you're stretching out your Rahm Boyd's. And you're a rectors have never been worked out. And there's only one way to work out the erector. And you you I kind of funny word here. You've got to stay a wreck. Okay. You gotta stay Iraq. And you've got the only way to be like a human being. We we grew to stand up. So now, you gotta take strength and get stronger at standing up what about will build your rectors, which in modern day society. Our arms are always forward. We do everything we type we love ocean that I'm stuck in right here. Read this by not great being loaded forward. It's horrible horrible. And there's only one way to get your shoulder blades to pull back, and that's with your erector directors have to pull that back. I didn't discover this guy's until way deepen them into being a black belt after college wrestling after doing everything that done. I finally found this and change my life. My pain is gone. I feel terrible. When I don't lift to max. So I'm doing the math here you can squat all three of us. Correct. Ceramic. And and do you know, how insane it sounds? It sounds insane. How much do you weigh right at one seventy five seventy five. And I just did a I did a DVD for JJ fanatics. There are huge BJ site. When I did this DVD, right? It goes through a snatch. I snatch power snatch. Which means I throw it from the floor to directly over my head. And just lock it and stand up all in the same day. Power snatch two twenty five I cleaned three sixty five no three three fifteen. I front squad at three sixty five. And I back squad at four eighty five in eight hours nonstop video with instruction. And you know, what it was was I I didn't just develop strength. I developed a level of willpower, and I developed a level of of mental toughness that that I you can't do it through training where you know, you only lift your packs when you're PECS feel great only lift your legs when your legs built great. You. You have to get there through. I don't feel good. I don't feel great today. Injuries. Oh, man. I throw I'm just like tired. No. So so with what's very strange was during this process. I broke my foot. I kept squatting in here. You can see where a hemorrhage my. I I had an eye hammer. The. Yeah, you remember that went viral online is huge thing. And I I that I had a bunch of different things happening inside of here. And it was. It was such a wild experience because I just kept going. I was monitored by an eye doctor at the same time, and I just kept going, and my numbers just kept going up, and, you know, get a consult your doctor. You gotta go through whatever. I mean, I'm not saying if you have some kind of heart arrhythmia that everything's gonna work out for, you know, saying that, but I do have athletic ability. And I've been I've been doing things for very long time. This took me to a level that is so extreme that it's hard to explain to anybody my flexibility is at an all time high. It's not powerlifting either. It's it's Olympic lifting and through this whole process. I got divorced. My brother had just died. So I'm not immune to like that things going on in my life. I still had still had a shit things going on, you know, crappy days, but I made sure I did I ran the whole wrestling season. I've lift in any town. I do whatever. I had to do to make sure I can max that day your team travels. Like, yeah, I'm outside of Incas. Yeah. We're national program. So we we go we go all over the place. Okay. I mean, we we've kids at compete in Virginia, we seize break, and I'll got a national program as well. So you guys like we've never fought him. No, no. If you've heard of them or I've heard of them because of DC, okay? But I'm sure they're good. If DC's coaching them, I'm sure he's good. I I will tell you it takes a lot of time to be a head coach. So I don't know how much time he's spending in the room, or his assistance or spending in the room. Because it takes a long long time. This is this is one of the pictures of what happened to my back through the squatting process. It was it was it was. You see that thing? It is is mild. It was wild. I mean that that picture alone went viral on the in the community because it was every day the bruising and the my back had almost become like rhino skin. It was it was pretty crazy trying to find this picture of my I merging for you guys. My workout would be lifting the weights onto the bar for you. And even then I think I'd be dead at the let me tell you something. I got I got my girl. She does squad everyday now with me lifts everyday front squats back while she had back problems. She's tennis star. She she volleyball through high school state champ, outta meadows and it fixed her back fixer back, but she she loads and unloads my plate. Sometimes I mean, that's that's a serious workout. I mean, we're talking five fifty five pound plates on each side. It's it's substantial let me find this picture and. Yeah. We've been looking through this really can't find this picture. They're certainly pictures in here. I mean like like. The crap inside this thing while he surfing through pick. I found the I I don't know if it's the right word, but the practical side of what you're saying. If I dare say fascinating again poor sample size because it's coming from someone called, Dan Tom left side right there, fixing the back in these. You're you're talking about through the. Oh, yeah. That was a brutal. You remember that one George? I had seen that you're talking about fixing back in these like, for example against small poor sample size here but unclear to get back on the mats. And now finally, but for the last year, but pretty much restricted from surgeries and other health stuff to homework out Salata a lot kettlebells at home squats, yoga stretching on masters pretty much stuff. You can get that at home a pretty basic, right? That being said, I would get you know, from stagnant loading shoulders five days a week here or sitting at when I'm not here at home and the stagnant position. No, no better. Right. All these terrible positions constantly, and I would get back cramps. I would feel knees. And then when I would you know, let's say I would get get about a week to about two weeks. I'd like to take more than more than that. Which way too much already. I would go to do a squat body weight squat. You noticed that the knee starts blowing out absent backfield. But then you focus on your technique. You get through your set of about seventy five to a hundred or whatever to get started again. And I I noticed no back pains no many pains when I'm when I'm gonna have got every other day routine. Usually, that's my go definitely gonna research everyday thing as far as. Guys, this real secrets inside that I was able to get from people. My rep counts are way lower than other people's. I do it in sets of sets of three sets of two sets of one when I get in. It's about explosion. It's about it's about power. It's about how fast you can accelerate something. So it's not just that I can lift five hundred pounds. But how fast can I lift five hundred pounds? If I get underneath somebody, and I try to lift them up. Well, that's just strife. That's not power my goal. My goal is to do four hundred and fifty pounds three reps in under five seconds. That's when I know I'm very powerful. So if I get in on somebody's leg, the they go in the air, and it doesn't matter if it's Brock listener, he's only three hundred pounds. You know, when you Francois over four hundred three hundred isn't that much Andre the giant Andre the giant. I mean, what what he what he weighed. It was like five forty or something the something crazy. So he's excited it a little bit. But yet it was crazy or seventy but you could lift him. And and it's I have I have it's not just me. I have other friends in town who lift with me who can do these numbers. So it's it's not outrageous. Right. And they do it every day. And I'll tell you inside a wrestling inside of do ju jitsu inside of combat sports. It's like video games. There is a certain requirement for each technique to be able to work inside of strength and power. And sometimes I'm watching fights. And the guy just isn't strong enough to finish the move. I've seen it. It's horrible anybody. Remember when Vito are bell, fort lock, John Jones arm. Yeah. Thing was straight. It was straight. But I'll tell you that guy would have been squatting or if he would have been front squatting the arm would've broken half. It would have happened. But veto was just working on technique all the time. And I'm not saying his technique wasn't beautiful. But you still have to be strong enough. It's a leverage game to game of leverage. This book will change people's lives. If they read it it changed my life. I was already coach to the UFC stars. I was already a black belt. And then I just threw my knowledge in their change my world and. Exchange anybody's world. But it's about power you have to if you wanna lift up DC, and we all know, it's hard. You can't be slow. He's gonna cross facial and get his head in the way when you grab it. You got to be able to accelerate his weight at a certain speed for it to actually work. They know a lot of jujitsu guys can't finish take downs. Why you're weak? I would tell them. I don't care who it is. I'll tell them to their face their back can't stay Iraq. They don't have the muscle capacity there. Chest isn't up. They can't lift they don't have the leg strength. And they're like, I wonder why I can't get the tape down there, but comes up before their hips go in there's a huge difference between them in a Michael Champa his body look at their body look at the back development. It's different. So any did you guys out there listening? I will tell you this will help you. It's not all your answers. But it'll help you have you talked to fighters who've done that I know for example, Franken near incorporated through different parts of his career. I think Olympic lifting him. I wanna see George though, I may be just throwing his name because he he sounds like he would you you'd experiment you George George didn't incredible job of making sure he stayed explosive. You know, you guys already know, I'm big into gymnastics the movements. If you're better at moving your body, you're better at taking people down you're better getting in the right positions. You're better exploding at the right time. George did a very good job of doing those things. I started this journey. After me and Frank MIR parted ways as far as coaching what's concerned. So Frank doesn't have these lessons. I learned these later, and these lessons, I I will tell you they would change guys careers that are forty I see guys I have friends that start this in their forties, and they clean four hundred pounds right under two hundred pounds. They cleaned four hundred this is not a steroid journey. This is not a is not take extra supplements. This is like it's a lifestyle and to stay powerful. You gotta do it. Every day your body's gotta think you're gonna fight a lion every day. And you know, what happens your body changes to fight a lion everyday. You know, look at different sports. You can see the development just look at the ESPN issue. Sports development. Look at the naked issues, you can see their bodies how they changed because they do the same sport every day. And that's the truth. I know that people talk about overtraining, but I'll tell you those are some lazy suckers, man, there's it's great. Excuse to not go. Pick up your book. Am I miss that early stepped off for Amazon dot com? You can pick it up. It's twenty bucks. It's it's more about getting the information out there. I want to help people I want to help people. I I've I've spent a lot of time on this. And I saw I could help change the world as far as this is concerned when you go back to Arnold Schwarzenegger's days. It's about getting getting big, you know, getting getting huge, but that's not about getting strong. And there's a difference. That's not about getting powerful. And I'm not talking about strongman stuff, and I'm not talking about just getting bigger and lifting more I'm talking about staying small in your weight category and lifting more than everyone else when you do that. And you combine it with jujitsu wrestling, boxing, you add that to technique leverage times more power, you get more results. And that's that's what this is about. It's about changing the world from the inside out. No more living in one thousand nine hundred seventy where we're just looking at what Arnold Schwarzenegger does. I love I love what he did. It was awesome. My dad used read all his books. What's the Tom? Platt stuff, you know. But when I look at when I look at guys who can do more weight than the biggest guy I've ever seen over at lifetime, fitness. I mean way more and they're hundred and fifty pounds. There's there's different world out there guys. We gotta get involved you're mess with somebody like at a powerlifting. Gym is kind of casually walk in Glen. Can I oh my mix it in with your hair gets you to see me at lifetime guys. I guess your kid. They didn't have enough. Wait a lifetime at lifetime. They were just slide on boom, boom, boom. And then all the sudden I had to go get more waits for my rack. And then they didn't fit on the bar because they're waits aren't skinny enough. That's where I've gotten to in a power Cyclo where like people I had I had a line of people with their phone watching me. No wraps. No, nothing. Right. Just I got spandex tights on on the weird Peter Pan guy. Right. I got a one percent better shirt. And then all of a sudden you see my bar bending. And I'm doing reps with. That that you can't even put more on. I mean, the clips are like like a quarter of an inch on the bar and like about to fall off and the bars Bendon. So these people it's it's scary for them. When I did that BJ fanatics, the absolute black belt world champion was there. His his name's Bernardo Varia. And he he came out. They film me. And he was just like I got I got a check these plates because I lifted kilos he had to check the plates and see if they were really fifty five pounds credit kid partout. It was wild wild guys Tara woman. It's been a wild ride pool. All right. We gotta take a break here. You're listening to EMI junkie radio on fight nation channel eighty three. In about twenty minutes. We'll be joined by UC Bentley T J dillashaw right now, our co host for the day is Ricky Landell. We'll keep talking about his new book that is available on Amazon. Let me see it again. Rookie to one percent better every day random dealt personal guy to back swats. So check it out. All right. Don't touch down. We'll be right back. The only channel dedicated to covering all sides of the fight game. This is there is XM by nation channel ninety three. Let's see up up down down left right left. Right. B a start. You told me that code would get rid of them. Yeah. We'll they're still here. Okay. But now, they know I tried to kill him. Hold on mom here. Jordan goes following the conclusion of tonight's game in New Orleans. Listen to a complete recap of all the action from around the league on MBA radio hosts game show, get locker room reaction expert analysis and more on Sirius two seven x eighty six and streaming on your phone and at home on siriusxm connected devices and speakers junky nation. You ain't gonna believe this five percent me still thinks Ricky Lindell's bullshit. Ninety five percent. I got up believe him because he's never told me a lie. But in the commercial break, I'm kind of giving them a sob story. Why I don't squad anymore body squats? Just to kind of those days that I got lazy on the gym. We'll do some push ups and some squats. And then, of course, you all know I got injured. So I haven't really been tackling that too much. All right, the bike or do the think it's called the aerodyne whatever Ricky lyndale just told us his eighty eight year old grandmother does squats. Yes. He very casually said it too. Yeah. Diane is her name. And this is Floreal for real, you ain't boasted. I am not bullshitting you. Wow. Not only sh she doesn't my mother. Does it every single day? My fiance. Does it for some reason the women around me are more interested in learning about how to squat correctly and doing it like for real getting strong? Then all the men all the men already think they know how to how to lift my grandmother read the book, she goes, I want I want to be. To want to be able to do that. I think the benefits how much can she squat sixty pounds? Remember, she's she's like eighty eight. You know, then she probably ways I'm in here. Yeah. I mean respect man, she does it every single day. And she's like now a major believe they're in it. We're getting married in a hot air balloon me, and my fiance, and we're going up to get married. And you know, it was married us. You're in Vegas who here in Vegas and Travis Brown's gonna do it. Really? Yeah. Brandon Travis will come out. We'll get hot air balloon. We're gonna fly in the sky all my family's come into this balloon fourteen a while fourteen in this hot air balloon. It's a major hot air ten with Travis included or how does that number? He I told him he's got to be under two seventy five. There's wait. I was like number changes with less people. Right. You could have less people or you know, you are standing in a basket. Well, my grandmother had. But even to write the hot air can fourteen people or one Travis Brown. He's he's just so big fight. Again. You don't he's he just got surgery USC took care of it. So that kind of kind of lean towards something, you have see just isn't taking care of it for no reason. Right. And he's training. He's on my squad everyday program, by the way, want some legs you squad and every day in everyday runs today. Now, you just got surgery. So he's probably not squatting today. You know, but he was right up until the surgery to get muscle mass going, Rhonda and me enough squad sessions shoe. Yes. And she even added ACL her ACL got hurt a long time ago. And she she doesn't make any excuses going on around here who who who do you still train or do you still train any inmate fighters. I am not training. MMA fighters to day. Okay. I just finished this book. I have a book tour. I gotta go on for the next two months. Amazon loved the book. People think it's it's groundbreaking is going to change a lot of things for a lot of people. So I'm gonna go do that for a couple of months, then I'm going to come back. Hopefully, Travis we'll be ready to rock hopefully, Condit will be ready to rock. There's going to be a lot of people that are moving in back into the game. And then most of those Kotite anybody you still have the relationships and should they take a fight? You're you're in the game. Correct. Oh, okay. So so I needed to fill up my time with something else for a little bit. Yeah. Which which I believe I believe that right? There could train every fighter in the world. I mean, it will help everybody, and I I've been around and I've seen how many guys would lose just because they didn't have the power and you don't have to get bigger to get stronger. I don't know about that routine. But something you said earlier on when you kind of got into it, which was took me by surprise. Because from the outsider's perspective little you've always been an athlete, but you talked about coming up doing martial arts like wrestling jujitsu before you even touch that. And I can relate to that part of it doing different martial arts. And even you know having. Amateur boxing, and before I even touched a weight, and you know, it never it. Never. I never thought twice about it. But then when I started doing actual strength and conditioning, maybe route twenty eight or so especially entering my physical private felt like it felt like literal steroids are like I unlocked a magic button. Whether I was pushing off in my shadow boxing, wore my shots or just driving. I felt so much more strict, and that was in a lot of it was different types of squads and different types of essentially, maybe not the same not every day. But just that difference. I felt the huge difference. And Dan, let me let me put a caveat on this. I train and do Jiu jitsu as well everyday. So it's not like, I only ima weightlifter now, I did it for performance, not the other way and certain moves have to be unlocked only by certain amount of power. I can't say it enough. It has to happen. All right. We'll certainly come back to this. But right now we wanted to our daily debate. So Josh if you will. Brothers Garcia seemingly candid green on a duck season product season duck season products, Ethan, whether it's true, that's billing case, great spelling case. Great gabbling, always bet on black red black red black, dummy or even social media, Instagram, Snapchat, Instagram, Snapchat, the same applies to the biggest stories. Time for MA junkie radio's daily debate. Are you all going to be a straight shooter or you guys want some social media jargons social media? All right here, we go. Because at as hashtag daily debate question before the at MMA junkie radio team. Here we go between hashtag Bill or fifteen hashtag built or to sixteen and hashtag UC Phoenix. Which fight. Are you looking forward to the most your choices are Mitchell versus Caetano daily versus page and Ghana versus Alaska's or other? But if you choose other we'd like to know who it is. It's not a big secret obviously start off with you, Dan. And I really wanna be hipster here and give love to, you know, you know, like, Jimmy Rivera algebra in sterling or Kron Gracie seeing him at the UFC stage. But I guess I'll go with the obvious option. Daily verse page, I feel like it kind of stands out as far as it's got a bit of a controversy dot controversy. But there's this rivalry the proverbial bad blood. If you will. But it's a fun styles match. And I think it has a fun flexibility to the styles matches opposed to maybe. A more. Classic striker verse. Grappler styles match that maybe play out one way or the other with a full speed from the start of it so to speak, so yeah, I'll go the welterweight s-. Joe's. It's between two of them. And it's really really tough the one deciding factor for me is gonna be bad blood, one of these by tad's, bad blood, and that one is daily and page, and I kinda got I'm looking at it as there are four doors, and you can only walk in through one. I need to know what's going to happen in that ballroom. So I'm going through daily page Ricky Lonzo in Ghana Velazquez. You know, you watch you watch Velazquez in his fights. I mean, what he does he he'll open people up on the ground. You see the blood? He's fight you've ever seen. He's just so relentless and he hasn't been back in a little while. And then in Gado, I mean, he'll send your head through the ceiling. So it, and I'll tell you ve Alaska's gotta chin on him. He's got a chin on him. So I I'm excited hit. He does get your right? But he gets through it. He's got that. He's got that chin. He's got that south of the border chin. Just you get hit hard and they just keep stepping forward. And I'll tell you. That's exciting to me. I wanna I wanna see that that go down. It's not just who's going to wrestle who's gonna hit is more going on than that. It's that's an exciting fight. You know, here's how I feel. It was daily page all day for me. But just hearing you talk about it. I I can't lie return came Blazquez as exciting to me. And maybe because in Ghana. Just lost too steep. A look like crap against Derrick Lewis did come back versus blades. But maybe I'm still holding onto a little bit of that. But no, I think he answered the question he is back. He came back against blaetz. This is a tough fight. And I do get excited usually for the heavyweight division. But I'm gonna stick to it. It you made it real closely Ricky Lindo, but I'm going to stick with daily versus page. These guys I mean, man, one of them gets to go back to the UK thumping his chest. One of them advances in the tournament that pays a million dollars courtesy of fifth. Fifty cent whoever wins at grand prix and one of them could possibly collide with ROY McDonald, or I should say to be fair the winner, ROY McDonald versus Jon Fitch, so in the process of of winning the grand prix possibly winning the welterweight title because each time McDonald's is in it. It's at stake. So I'm gonna stick with that one. But it wasn't two-horse race. Folks. Fifty five percent went within Ghana and Velazquez. Forty percent one with daily resp- H two percent one with Michio versus Caetano and three percent went with other in other could have been many. But I'll tell you what Rivera and algebra sterling is a good Vic Felder. Oh, yeah. There's some really good others almost one thousand votes came in. Thank you junky nation readers of the site and listening to the show for timing in. All right. We gotta take our last break. You're listening to EMMY junkie radio on fight nation. Tony three and on the way I'd want to give a shout out to Richard Reese from Phoenix. What's up to us? Goes he ran into Jon Morgan out there in Phoenix want to give him a shout-out. You gotta call in some time. We'd love to hear from you. So do it. All right. We're here. Five times a week doesn't matter. If it's your first time where you're scared. You just got to get through it, and then bam after that it'll be like second nature. All right. We'll be right back. Blah, blah here. Those two dummies Georgia goes, all right? Our next guest could befall it on Twitter at TJ dillashaw TJ two-time you've seen mentally champion. He's got three title defences sixteen wins overall. And at some point two thousand eighteen I see a busy year for t- dillashaw defending this belt. So we'll pick his brain see where he's at. He never stops going. In fact, ending his strength conditioning. Couple minutes just to get on here with us. Welcome back champ. How're you doing? Good, man. Are you all right man year Beck on with George goes got dance on the finalist and Ricky Landell with us excited to talk to you. TJ man, you'd never take a day off today's Valentine's Day. And if I recall from our conversation, you still had to get that to our session of strength and conditioning, the madman that everybody talks about. That was the plan. Do I fortunately came down with food poisoning? So I've been a little bit bedridden today. But Yemen, I try not to me up. Yeah. A little bit of. But I try to take long breaks. I mean, get enjoy life. But also wanna stay ready? And that's what the always admired just hearing the stories of how obsessed you are. And how involved you are with your career? And and how competitive you are because I think you have to have that mentality. Otherwise, you're not gonna wear gold. Not in this sport. Man. There's just too many great athletes that slowly get whittled out through the amateurs do the regional scene. And eventually the bigger shows, you know, they become ranked fighters contenders. And then do they have enough to be a champion or not? You know what I mean? So I no matter what people say it's that drive. That's gotten you. Where were you at hundred percent Manet's being obsessed? You know, it's being assessed. This. Yeah. I'm sure it's cost to holidays or family time or whatever. And I wanted to ask you was has your your circle of friends or your family has it ever caused any problems with them, or if they've been able to respect the hustle and enjoy your the right? You know, being sure a fan of yours aside from being a relative or close friend. I have I have a great support system in obviously throughout my career. You would let down to the people, you know, that are around really care about you get your era. Best will be in heart. You know, but I had the support system sessions Madrid, family wife and foam around wrestling college. She knows the drill. She knows dedicated. I am been been this whole time. Anyway that I can get better. I need to do to be doing. She understands that not only understand that help support that, you know, always always pushes me to take extra family time. Now, though, the one year old, but for sure is the one hundred percent, and then my family my parents gun to every lesson cultish been involved in. They have pushed me for all my goal. So obviously, I'm addicted and getting better in obsessed with it. But also have a great support team. That helps me get that done. Competitive. This was it just you as a professional athlete or like if somebody throws on a game of John Madden or or ping pong. Pretty pretty intense there to yet everything maybe say little bit less with everything else. These days we at growing up me, and my brother playing Madden or whatever may be if he's being mean, Russia marriage the control through Mike. I'm like happy with the putter. You know? Definitely very very competitive with with everything they'd be his book games. Whatever, you know. It's it's something that I don't know. I think my parents would just instilled in me, but I always very competitive growing up with everything we did. And I have to shoot others in the middle child older younger brother that people always compete against my whole life. So it's just something that the way I've been raised. I'm glad that you finally, and it wasn't just this last time. But over your career think you finally just said it man, you know, on kind of a sore loser. It's wrong on the. But I think there's a lot of us that are like that where you just, you know, two different levels. Obviously what still. I think that's why a lot of people could just appreciate that a loss can sting, you know, and how much you know, winning is also enjoyable for you. So I'm glad you've opened that part. You know, rather than leave it at how you know, it's competitive juices or this or that man, you know, what I'm just a sore loser. I liked here. The N T J defense as far as losing goes. It's not like he's lost enough time to get good at it. Yeah. Yeah. All right. It's also to that help same with being the best. That's helped me drive that. And that's why I'm always focused on winning. You know at when it don't happen. It's not it's not the best feeling, you know, especially with something that you feel yourself little controversial an extra, you know. So what were you thinking when more than Ryan's beat a hoffy less than Saudi? Do you already know up? Now, this guy's in the conversation because I know you really want a rematch with Henry Suharto. So how are things starting to play out? His Dana white says have you have you your manager? Dana White's hudo are there. Talks going on which ways this thing lean everything I've heard going to be rematch pseudo. Those who wants it. I wanted me happen to answer questions about an early stoppage. And this and that, you know, coming off the victory every happy loaded either mess the fight for him to continue to build hype on his name miss the fight that makes the most for me with the when you talk about of the controversial loss, and Dan was pissed off. Susan's back. So obviously, I'm playing the wing and and waiting to hear about it. I said, I'll do it. Anyway, I don't really care to win back. So that's what I'm feelings next. But I didn't watch them one rises since. I'll fight way. Was he won the I say something I mean, he should be doing his job. You know, he's trying to make tension name. So as well too. So doing his job that's for sure. All right, TJ dillashaw the UC Banham champion joining us here on the hotline. And as we start maybe moving towards a possible pseudo rematch. If you look on the calendar win with TJ dillashaw v ready to fight Henry Souto. Swim in the gym. Now, I'm ready for whenever they call me of thing. You know, I I don't wanna be be worried about like, oh, my body's nine shave. And this that that's why I would stick with the string conditioning. I've been doing full obviously training. I mean have been on since the fight. So I haven't been a little bit emits doing here, and there kickboxing staying with a little bit of light drilling. But mainly just shrink conditioning to keep my body ready to do you don't put some shank back on right now, you know, some of the side lost when I was doing lake cut. So you're put that back on depending on by thirty five or even ready to drop back down to twenty five. All right goes, what do you have for TJ dillashaw Tice? Going back to that fight did enough of it play out where you feel like in a rematch different strategies need to be changed. Do you expect him to be different? Or is it just kind of like a continuation of the first bite. A little bit of both. You know, he came up differently. Pam with then it would have been fitted me so much if the if I were to continue that way, which I feel you know, I actually will. So, you know, fortunately, not enough with shown to be able to understand complete game plan. But I think what both just kind of continue where I see holes his game. And thing that I do and I need to get just a adopting to the change which I have done in the past. But making sure that Mabel to adjust the fly making plenty change Garbrandt. I thought he would shut my timing. My game getting ready to be different fighter every round. If b. George brought up the topic of being sore losers. I started thinking about something if you guys fought again, and you won that fight. It would bring guys to one one. Would you be? Would you feel good enough with the fact that you won the last one or do you need to beat him twice? Depends on how of down. I wouldn't have beaten him twice. I look I believe on the fighter that match. Oh, so I have no problem going back again to, but it's depends on how the carts shown, you know. I mean, I go out there and just domini on is a different story toy to be more than happy to give the second shot into. So. Dan, Tom our fight analysts. Would you have for TJ dillashaw UFC Banham Leach AT, Jay, I'm sure you're probably take a breaking down the whole stoppage in the way played out of fear fear last time out, and I'm not gonna ask you if it changed your opinion because I like to think that fighters all seem to kind of have a real similar opinion on stoppages. But let me ask you, you know, when you see other stoppages controversial or not doesn't maybe, you know, change your outlook on it. For example, a UC to thirty four kind of had a talking point stoppage between Jimmy Cruden Sam alvie, I guess did you catch that? And did you have an opinion on that one TJ? I didn't watch the car. I really don't watch much fighting his opponent on fighting into. I mean, it's like bringing work home with me. But you know, we signed on the dotted line beside professional fighters. I do read these shoot protect William will being of fighters. But you let them be finished. You know on the ref shouldn't be the one deciding the winner lose. I was in the middle of talking to the ref when he stopped the fight. They hate us. Tell me show me something good. I can tell you just from watching that fight. He was up around. Crazy deco, you know, like. So I think so she was the high level of fight. It was not only title by championship fight. Like, you gotta let someone out you know, and understand the situation he'd be more of a student game. Like, you should know that where I got clipped in. How that affects? You know, I got behind the ear on a shot that takes equilibrium. Route out, you know, like God Thome cold smashed on the chain. And in lost my Marvel's. This is one of the things that were hit the any year in Lhasa equilibrium. And then got another guy to on me. Knowing the situation, knowing what's what like what show are better if your arm bar, if you've got to have a break thing, you know, just knowing more of the sports understand. What is valid stoppage submission knockout. Whatever it, maybe. I got you loud and clear their TJ. And you mentioned something else that I think is really important about kind of you know, I eating if you will compartmentalizing if you will because a sport can overtaken no matter what facet that you step into it at. But let me let me ask you some. I always associated with guys like maybe because you guys are all really competitive great fighters guys like one Archer Letta or Aaron PICO you guys obviously trained together. Now, you guys all kind of fought around the same time, you guys all had a different results. Right. But let me let me ask you guys kind of get back into the gym a kind of together start. You start coordinating with those type of friends even though it's involved with a fight game. Or are you talking about staying in the gym now more just conditioning more just kind of TJ, focus work out more? What you're talking about? Focus heart. We reach our lives to to situation was a little bit different. So maybe some guys you take some time off, you know, that ampule to the show did, you know, I I don't want him to come back to the Jim till you know, he was totally covered in young. Like, there's every kind of push the pace of the nocco like that. Why aren't you let a he went back to back fights never done. He had a four four fights and ten months to word going different weight classes back toback Cam. So he went up to Spain. And did a a vacation out there for like eleven twelve days to for my vacations and here hitting the gym with the same Calva and get my mind, right? The best way if I were to go and sit down and do nothing after fight like that and all the questions stuff MCI money. And so where I get the most clear minded design push myself push myself hired and Evan that more to the string conditioning rather than than they training because. We just need a break. But I want to stay. I wanna say feeling feeling like I take. You see bantamweight champion T J dillashaw our guest on the hotline to time. You have see bantamweight champion three title defences. Definitely had a couple. Nice rains there. All right. Ricky window finish things up for us. What do you have for T J dillashaw? Hey TJ. I I off and it's been a long time since we were since we were in the gym together. It's before you even even put that belt around your way, just want to tell you on a personal level. I'm really really happy about your success. You know, it's not it's been great to watch you just just rocking and rolling. Really impressive. Yeah. I do the question for you for for the show. So since since who started started winning his title, the Russians have been posting a lot of Besiktas when when he wrestled, and and I watched it yesterday like the whole match, and it showed a lot of Suharto's mentality. And I just wondered if back in your college wrestling days, and even now if you guys have watched seek and how he dealt with who does mentality to knock him out of the world championships at the time. Definitely back and look either haven't. Fates wrestling isn't aspect of it. But it's completed Luke air members, totally totally. And you know, that I mean, you're listen country me I love to go back and check that as what you're talking about. I thought it was great mentality to J like how Zeke how seek approach the game not so much what the game was but he played into the competitive side of Suharto. And I just wondered what your take was. So maybe maybe sometime after after your victory in the future. I'd love to hear. I'd love to hear what you thought about that. Absolutely after she just like, you are always trying to give some advice. One more for me TJ. We'll be done here. Which one is the more lucrative fight, by the way, this this no way have ever taken your answer to be oh, I want him because it's the more lucrative. You just want to basically fight him because he's just recently lost to another champion. But but in the end, the actually more lucrative than one of the Morris or even know. Absolutely. You know, someone win back between Neal want wanna hide that eight. There's tons of. He's on it. Got nothing people telling me back. You say definitely the most we fight to me right now. Could you could you fight it that you have see that? That's unnamed it's called UFC thirty six it's on April thirteenth, but there's no locating. So it's like kinda two months from now. Could you do that one? Or is that too soon? Kid play not too. That's my gym. I'm ready whenever they call me. I don't wanna be like, oh, no. I can't six against Wade shave. Yes. Anything, you know? So. Day. I'd be shooting. But like I said. All armament. Thanks for the time. As always we really appreciate it always been fun covering you since tough, and you know to you being a contender in now two time world champion. So we really appreciate you still extending that offer to us to have you on the show. Hey, hopefully, you get this fight soon. We'd love to see it. And thanks for joining us on the enemy junkie radio show. All right. We'll see. All right. That's you've see man we champion TJ dillashaw. All right. One more time. One percent better every day, we personal guy back squats available on Amazon twenty bucks, and it'll really really help you out with on many fronts. So check it out so much for stopping by Ricky guys. Thank last me on the show. And hopefully, we see a couple of months maybe a quick cameo. But other than that, we'd still have to have you come in Costa this show? All right, folks. Tomorrow, we have no one book yet. Right. No one on. Yeah. That's right. All right. So tune into mile eight PM eastern and Pacific for another edition of enemy junkie radio. Ricky, Josh becky's. Dan goes George have a nice day, go out there and be a champion three you Luther into the fife, then the ring announcer. Get this is your home for all things. Combat theory is exempt fight nation channel ninety three and on your phone with the series. XM at let's say you just bought a house. Bad news is your one step closer to becoming your parents. 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Episode 294 - Coronavirus and Joe Exotic IN DA HOUSE!!

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Episode 294 - Coronavirus and Joe Exotic IN DA HOUSE!!

"All right this is going to be wild. Special Corona virus addition of inappropriate earl My systems a little bit on the Fritz. So there may or may not be music to this episode. Thank you Stevie Rachelle from tough providing the music to every single episode. That's the song forever yours bite on. Itunes just throw Stevia bone. He gave it to me for free and The sound may not be the greatest quality because my Adobe audition softwares on the Fritz which I usually put like equalizers to level out the sounds so this rail ghetto version of inappropriate or all and some may call my gassed. You know some of you are the line. Sometimes you call her the Yoko Ono of the inappropriate podcast chat. Sorry it's just the way. The podcast world works Huts Chandler Barbie and the house hell so Ben Awhile. Since we've done the podcast I think my last episode was with the legendary. Ufc FAMER EH. May Legend Frank trigg. Thank you frank for coming on. He's now refereeing and That was the longest episode ever in the history of inappropriate or almost three hours. And to be honest with you. We could've gone another hour. But Frank had leave to think referee Abella Tour Card or something so Challenge back. I think this is like our fifth. Maybe I don't remember 'cause I thought every day we talk it's a podcast doing one When we go on our walks which will let the fans know about in the second. And putting Mike's into the or putting a battery in Zoom Recorder and doing a podcast has where that'd be so easy. We could do that with headphones in a fallen too. Because I've done it or get one of those things like rob. Has We figured out? Well I think if we took the zoom recorder and used a battery we could go mobile with just the Mike's has we have it right now. So I do apologize to the fans for not doing as many As I have in the past you know but I lost a little bit of motivation again. And do this Just because it's a pain in the ASS frankly to get people to come over and you know like Frank Trigg list and You know the beachside community so it was hard for him to come over here. L. A. Traffic and leave and and there's no traffic right now though people just don't WanNa come over to the thank you have Cova Twenty. I am in the She that's how Chandler successful. She's already looking ahead to Kobe twenty. I think I'm GonNa get Cova Twenty and wait for that to come out instead of the nineteen great now. Chandler's doing bits. This isn't potluck to this is only. You're a immaterial. Live on my instagram right now. Well we you know. We're on total lockdown. Now the episode Frank. Trigg was you know we didn't know a cove in nineteen was. It's crazy to think that all this the world is basically shut down because someone sat on dirty toilet seat and I thought it was bad soup. Well now they're saying patient. Zero was a female worker at that. What is it? The Wu Tang Animal Yeah but here. In America patient zero was but no. They're saying patient. Zero was the girl who sat at that open air market. She sat on a dirty toilet and then she traveled somewhere. And then you know. It's like a patient. Zero was an American. Now do you may tell you what really happened. I'm about to give you all the inside scoop of why the Corona viruses thing right now gonna about to get into her Alex Jones Sam Tripoli. This is true. Hold on I'm going to go for a walk and let Chandler do her thang non just cut it now. I have had guess where I could have asked them a question and left the room and come back and you wouldn't is what happened in the krona virus. Okay are you ready okay. So China is mad at trump earlier this year right. The Chinese government created a biological weapon known as the Krona Virus to America. Some called the Wuhan virus some call Kovic Nineteen which is at street name. It's real name it street. Name as corona virus. Anyway this was created in a lab. And if you think biological weapons are not created in a lab. You are Kuku Bananas. Out of your mind. You do not know how the government works. Because I'll let you know come from a military family and I have people right now in my family. That her in special units in the government for those of you who don't know Chandler's Youngest brother can't say who it is. We say my little brothers and special forces but that's all we can say some say he's a real life Rambo. Yeah but we can't say anything else 'cause like I had to take them off all my social media and so I know just say so. Chandler CUSTOMER LEGITIMATE MILITARY FAMILY BACKGROUND. So this is what I think happened. I think not confirmed but this is a word on the street that Chinese government created this biological weapon they released it to a small percentage of China to test it and it before they could contain it because it spreads so wild they They released it to know what happened to our. You distract me with your ipad okay. China creates the strain of Krona vars right China releases it to a small section in China right. You're with me. The doctor who created this DIS. The Guy who has a cure is dead dies. He's murdered. Let's be real. He's murdered by the Chinese government. Now this fire is fast spreading with no cure and it spreads so what I think happened was. China's plan was to release it to a small part of China that really works his poor and works in like shipping facilities and stuff because then that would have fucked America up because China government communist or fucking pissed at trump so then as a retaliation they release a biological weapon that then fucked up all shipping fucked up our stock market because the stock market has been fucked up since fucking December because of all this stuff and eventually it just spread every country like they didn't know how to contain it so it got out of control and they killed the doctor who had the cure because their plan was because like. Here's the thing if if another country releases secretly a biological weapon and this is true this is straight up from my family in the military America has the United States has certain proceedings because we do we abolish weapons weapons here in America. We have certain things we have to do protocols before we can just nuke a country you know what I mean like if they release biological weapon and they're like oh it's a virus. We didn't do this. It was from bat soup. Then we can't be like fuck you China we're GONNA blow you up but they're also fucking our lives up saying I mean I don't necessarily agree with your angle but I mean listen. It's a wacky world because they keep saying it's the same as eight. Where did AIDS come from? Everyone says there's so many theories like this person had sex with a monkey. This person did that and with the krona virus. They're saying like Os from Bat Zubin. Now some people are saying it's a valuable weapon and then some people are saying now. It's from a toilet seat like open your eyes people. It's a new strain of a virus that was created in the lab. Because when you create a biological weapon you know like you fucking know what your you know. There's no cure because you've it's manmade. Well I mean it's Certainly unlike anything the world has ever seen but someone on my life so that was bad. Shit crazy talk but I'm open to anything. I mean I could see someone sitting on a toilet and who knows what the cleaning staff is like an open air market that sells monkeys and bats to be eaten sure. Clean toilets not a high on their priority list. I could see spin some James Bond. Biological Weapon You know I just think. And here's the other thing that alarm time to thank the last two weeks because I haven't had anything else to do. I first of all. Would you not agree? People have freaked. The fuck out during this thing I mean. Do you remember the other night? Air One when that lady literally acted like. I was. I I had the plague I had. I had What was what was it that everyone had back in leprosy she does. She acted with the I mean the most recent like pandemic. We've had was the SARS flu. I didn't even know that was the thing you know I I'm concerned. I'm not more concerned because people are saying like it's blood types. Now people are saying. It's like wash your hands which obviously this is the one pandemic that has paid off for me because I'm a GERMOPHOBIC our houses we're both OCD. Clean freaks that we haven't changed our lifestyle at all because we both take we take enough vitamins that nothing should be able to penetrate our body. I think as long as you're relatively hygienic. United French kissing a homeless person who has a cold I did that last week. Those me You have a very low chance of getting it You know obviously if you have pre existing conditions that you have lung cancer because it's a respiratory disease or diabetes. That's not lung disease but like your immune system is compromised. You might be at a higher risk but but it also like our friend. Pay Lee and his girlfriend. They thought they had it. And we'd literally seen them a week that they're probably contagious and win it and get it. Yeah I mean like I think if you're like seventy five and you're drinking and smoking and of course younger people are dying to yes. Lay off the vapes. You'll be fine. I mean I'm not saying you have to be Jack Elaine and be like a rumble trainer and super in shape. But I'll lois is in the house so you know there's we live in West Hollywood and there's a For lack of a better viruses other than corona virus here. But there's like an old person's home to two houses down from us. It's not a hospice but it's I think the next the next step before you go to a hospice. It's really old people who are sick and I think whose families are gone now and I'd be more concerned about those people. Here's the thing to do. I think the chronic viruses real. Yes could people like my father? Die From It yes. Who's your father has. My Dad has been yeah. He has asthma and he has like already. He's already had pneumonia once this year because he has lung issues. But my mom takes a lot of precautions for him anyway. So like obviously. They're not going out of the house. My brother came home to help. Take care of them for a while. But I don't think it's as bad as I do. It's bad I don't think it's the way I think this is also a test to see who will follow the rules and who in a way? 'cause thinking about it. We've never had something like this happened. Besides the Spanish flu and that was what two hundred years ago when everyone just died. We've had I mean yeah. That was an of an epic proportions. Sars which was more recent during the AIDS. Pandemic people were still out fucking shit you know whether that was. I mean that's probably the best example of you know like when AIDS started happening I think it was perceived as just being a gay disease Because it hit the gay communities the hardest but then you know straight people got it by sexual xl so You know there was a an unknown of like at some point for a few years. And that's where we're at now But I think to me. It's just like a super version of the flu. Yeah you know and and more people are going to die this year from the flu then she same as so. Do you remember when we got the stomach virus last Christmas but before we start yes. I do shadow to my friend and Chat Chris Ramirez Tub Chris. One of my truth Oggi's Andrew Stoke the ruler of all my art work Andrew. Your artwork is all over Hollywood right now. We don't know how it is but it is an one more shadow to amy Mata steady Freddie. Curry's Oh hi we have some fans in here too. I have Yeah we we both got sick okay. So here's my thing about that. We got the stomach virus last Christmas. Right we thought we had food poisoning because that was the worst. I've been sick in a long long time. Okay come to find out after Christmas. We came back and apparently the and I was shocked. We got sick because we're both so healthy and I thought well maybe it's because we just both got off shows and I've been around a lot of people you'd on the store come to find out. People at the comedy store had previously had it and came to the store. And use the microphones. They I don't work there but I'm pretty sure they don't disinfect. At tell you as someone who does work that they do not see because I I know it you see. That was around the time I was performing a lot. They do. Disinfect our stages. We don't use microphones but they disinfect. Our stages and our chairs and stuff every show at the comedy store I feel like they. Don't disinfect things and you've just confirmed that so then you're using a mike that someone else sick has used and also thirty other people have used that night and then you come home. You Kiss Me. You see her neighbors and then give it to me because I got it right after you. We go on a plane. Were in First Class Seats. Because we're richest fuck then we give it to people in those seats. That's how it spreads and then when we got back to La. I was pissed because that was when two comic said. Do you remember we were like? Oh my gosh. We thought we had food poisoning. And they're like no the stomach virus going around at the store also also think You have you ever seen a cleaning crew on an airplane. They do very light clean. Like yeah you think one plane. You know you're playing gets used earlier in the day so if you take a red either. Alabama or anywhere doesn't matter that plans probably been in the air fifteen hours out of that day sharing air. Because it's it's it's circulated sharing air you know like I said lightly wipe the food tray and the army. They probably don't even so you're getting that person's germs who might have been sick and I mean planes are really just a walking petri dish. Well that's like when we first started dating on our first date. I I know you don't remember this because it was so long ago but I went. I was like ordered. And then it was a cam and go wash my hands and I wouldn't wash my hands and then came back and I sat down. I use hand sanitizer which is something I do because I have a level of Germaphobe Like extreme like if someone touches my plate you know this. I won't eat off of it unless it's like you but on our date. You weren't weirded out by that and you're like oh I'm GONNA actually go wash my hands and then you did the same thing and I feel like because we have those pre existing rituals. That's what's kept us from getting sick and in the long run and healthy absolutely by the way we're going to cut the facebook live feed right now just so you gotta listen to the rest and Apple podcast shadow to Andrew Jacobs We might go into instagram. Live in a few minutes ago. Share my instagram live. So then we're dueling chandler. What's your instagram live? Chandler C. H. A. N. D. L. E. R. Barbie Bart. So we're GONNA cut the facebook live aid. This'll be up on apple podcasts. Hopefully by tomorrow if the sound issues aren't too bad and gone. Chandler's instagram live right now. If you WANNA just continue watching I love you all I mean I think we're pretty Hygienic people anyway and We both are in shape. You're an athlete. I wouldn't say I'm like an Olympic soccer and I I mean I played soccer and you've played Hawk your whole life's though so I feel like can you imagine how athletic our child is going to be. I mean I'm not too concerned about catching us. Even though I'm fifty one and that's not you don't smoke either. Smoke my lungs you know. My last health checkup my doctor said I had the lungs of a twenty year old. Because I don't smoke pot cigarettes I certainly breathe enough pot various places but Say Hi to the Webber's Shea and been in our on what up what up a watch Robbery goals global investigator. I believe on Wednesday nights. Now Yeah it starts back try. Put this here. We'll get to the plugs and it doesn't work. You know the amazing show. Rob Riggle hosts Bennett Channel and Chris peasy where the brains behind it and rob riggle goes around the world solving global mysteries like the holy grail and Atlanta's and stuff like that. I mean. Listen now. Maybe his next mystery should be how the Krahn virus got started. Were Good luck catching a film crew to want to do that. But you know now. It's a great time to watch TV. I I tell you what the Thai Tiger King we Watch that straight through. Its eight hour. I downloaded to his songs on my I tunes Joe Exotic his songs. I love him. I want if they're supposed to be doing a bio-pic I won't woody. Harrelson play him but someone brought up a good point that Michael. Keaton would probably so good as him well. There's so many ways you could do him and this is why I love. I was talking with my friend Matt Berry. Who was the casting director for CON air and that Justin Timberlake Movie Alpha Dog and Yeah like he's legit. Wait I got remind me story about Alpha Dog after this. I will So he's like a legitimate Like a list casting director and I sit on my list of people who use in the mind I did not But there's this is why I love cats to get different people's takes on a different parts. I mean you and I watched Let's go through this person by person. You and I watched Joe Exotic Together You Gimme your. We only get one choice each because we've just gone forever. We who do you think should be jobs on one? Quick thing though Bennett just comment on the live and said Bennett Weber and his wife share good friends of ours. He said we regret that. We didn't have a JOE exotic song play for our first dance at our wedding which knowing new I would have Woody Harrelson because everyone's GonNa. This is the one reason everyone is going to say. Danny McBride do I think Danny McBride could play Joe Exotic absolutely? Would he be funny? Of course Danny McBride has played a Jo- exotic character so much like even will ferrell to a certain extent has that. I don't WanNa see it. 'cause it's like. I can already see that in my head right. I mean I like to go like when I look at cast. I like to go off the boycott wildcard. You like wild card because anyone can say well. Let's get Tom Cruise. Or let's get some a-list you know Matt Damon that's not GonNa work. You got to like go. Okay Joe Exotic who not not just look like him but and you know when I first thought about it. I thought well I'm giving to names but I'm GonNa say my final choice l. Have what I I thought about. Jobs Audit and I looked at him and said well David spade in Joe Dirt Khanna. Did David would be one this character. And he's a better actor than I think some people give him credit for And then someone suggested one of our friends at Michael. Keaton like I could see that but then A friend of mine said did William H macy. You know that is such a good pig to. You told me that yesterday and I was like I could see it. It's such a wild card where you're like wait. You're calling yeah error in Boogie nights if you put that into an animal rescue environment and maybe tweak up the southern you know aspects of it I think not only does he look like him and of course you can make anyone look like anyone you could get. Tom Cruise put a mullet on them. Having talking to southern accent and there you have joe exotic but I think you want to get people who really embrace the essence of the character so now you had the best selection. I thought a with my friend Matt Berry so For Carol Baskin. Yes so someone on here just said Bennett. Just said that John Hawkes from deadwood would be good as Joe Exotic. Oh yeah that's a good one. There's probably ten people which is why I've always been fascinated with casting like if you ever. You know a really cool thing to see about the original star wars movie. I'm talking seventy seven. Is they had the screen test of believe it was William Cat from. Everyone was William Cat from WHO You know if you're older you know. He was the greatest American hero. And and he was in Kerry he auditioned for Hans Solo Perry king who was another seventies actor. Like if you're like above fifty like Oh my God. That's the guy He auditioned for Hans Solo Believe Christopher Walken addition for Han Solo. On and the guy who almost got it right before Harrison. Ford was a black actor. Who if you're a fan of the wire? He played the Mayor. Glenn Thurman like He. He's an early promotion shots in the costume. So could be sure. At least twenty to thirty people would be considered for jobs. Probably I don't want action or together though I don't like I don't like him. You know that's personal reasons so well let's bring Your Person. I know But I will do everything I do. In film is just not hire people. I don't like Carol Bask along with mad. I think the two best choice so this is so everyone. There's been rumors Kate. Mckinnon's been hired. I think that's also the obvious choice for Carol Baskin. I think someone who would blow it out of the water and play crazy but also that hippie character so well is Lisa Kudrow. That is who I. That's my number one. Pick out of anyone. I think that she across the board should get it. Yeah I mean she definitely looks like a younger and she is a younger hotter version. And I thought. Wow that's the best choice and then. Matt Berry who obviously knows what he's doing said shelley long and you know for you. Younger millennials who shelley. Long As. She's the girl on cheers. Sam from chairs so I haven't seen her in anything. So could you imagine like getting the role in like one of the biggest probably movies? Why think it'd be good to get you know? I think these this particular film. I think and I'm going to assume that it would not have a gigantic budget like. Let's say it's on Netflix. It's net flicks. Yes it would it. Has I know. Netflix is worth hundreds of millions of dollars. But they're gonNA I think. In my opinion you could shoot this that you could shoot this as an Indian still make hundreds of millions of dollars. I agree but I'm saying they're not going to blow the budget on. Okay we'll get Tom Cruise Nicole Kidman. They're going to look for someone like shelley you on who maybe a little bit out of the limelight. They're not going to get Rachel McAdams. I think the film actually works if you get not lesser known because Shelley. Long's her residuals from chairs. I think you shouldn't get the number one. Pick the evidence I mean. That's why my we're not gonNA talk about him yet but my pick for Jeff Low. I think we both agree as a good. I've had so many people. Actually this pig Carol Fuck Carol and so we got Carol so far. We've got you know either Michael. Keane William H may see some wild cards and they're spayed. Someone said you actually Allie. Allison earls Joe. You can't do a southern accent though. Let's be honest. Consider me to to be. I mean I'm too busy big to look like him. I tell you who I could play is. We'll get to that later. Are the Guy Jeff Lowe. Who was his partner throughout the whole movie I'm gone with Fred durst limp. No let's let's be clear not partner as husband. His partner. Who came along bailed him out with Carol. Right so this boy. Now forget that I know limpest. That is a very divisive band. I think Fred durst is a perfect wildcard. Pick because you know in every movie they get like you know how like Riano is in battleship and Shit and you're like what or Harry styles was in is it. What's the movies in? Nineteen forty two or since the war movie and everyone was like why put Harry styles in this. But he was so good. Because you know it's like I told someone today If you look at the movie die. Hard I realize it's completely different. Subject action movie is have to brand back to the eighties. But it's true if you look at that movie to me. Obviously Bruce Willis very accomplish actor. Alan Rickman you know our IP. I got to work with him on his last movie. So you know more than anyone. A great actor. Yeah but to me. The Guy who stole the show was a guy who literally had never acted before. Not One film that one. Tv show he was a world famous ballet dancer Alexander Goodenow. Oh the Russian guy any lines. Well Yeah like Bobby. Fifteen lines in the whole movie but they were like essential to the story but it was. His hatred of Bruce Willis. In how the whole movie? He's trying to get revenge for him killing his brother. Now here's a guy was zero acting ability or experience and I think that's what Fred durst doing this movie. Yeah 'cause that guy I agree with you. I don't think there's I think I that was my my casting for him too. Because Jeff lows guy who has a Fred durst vibe like Kinda cocky kind of looks like that White Trash Vegas piece of Shit? Yeah on the man whores. I have threesomes Fred durst. Is that spread? I really where you? What if they hired you is flow? WanNa look like him. You could okay husband number two. What Fun and we got Fred Durst. Jeff blow without a much Argument there now. Here's an interesting part. Oh someone said Clarence Gillard from the cowboys show in die hard We don't know who that is. So enormous someone's doors is good. That's been the Hitman who was the bald guy. I think what's the guy's name do you ever IMDB Open? What's the guy's name and guardians of the galaxy that plays the Blue Alien? He's a fighter. Batista these two Big Day now no. It's not no just look it up and see I know you know. We saw a movie the other day and I was like. Oh my gosh. She's in guardians of the galaxy. I think he would be good or because he has to like this movie. You have to have a little bit like the bodyguard is going to be the straight man. But he has to be a little funny. I also think it would be funny and it's not because I work with this person all the time. I think rigor would be funny. Just because he would go ball like he would go bald for and he has a military background. And he's big and I just think it might work. Oh yeah I mean but that being off the board like you wouldn't think Rob Riggle you know hangover in twenty one jump street so in shape now and stuff they like. I see it. Why think you're talking about the guy who was my choice Michael Rooker Yeah. Yeah Yeah I think you'd be a great bodyguard from Jasper Alabama. That's my stay. There's no Alabama was the last date to be confirmed with Corona Vars. I wanted to go there again which I never thought I would say until they started getting too. So I'm out there but Michael Rooker is the true definition of what a character actor is Has I am. Bbc's shall i WanNa work with him but he literally hundreds of credits. Yeah I remember I. It'll why saw his first is his breakout role. He has one hundred twenty credits on. Md beat that's like I work a fair amount. I've got like seventeen credits. Forty he has a hundred and twenty eight Probably the Raleigh's most known for his first film Where he played Henry Lucas and Henry the portrait of a serial killer Who Do you think should play the And I will say this before. You asked me if people are like we can't have Fred durst this movie. We just can't. It's not working. Fuck Hollywood I would say put Michael Rooker has as L. Yes yes someone else sir. Do you think I think Matthew mcconaughey It'd be a funny Jeff too though? Oh He'd be great and he'd probably do it 'cause he he I think he would. Who Do you think would be a good the sex cult guy who had the Tigers in South Carolina? Because a you know my number one pick will say well Farrell. He He'd be good you know and once again another off the board because he looks like him because this movie is kind of weird like it's obviously it's a real life murdered But it it. It's it's like a dark comedy. Almost Thi- this saves I something like David Lynch would have written so in terms of the sex called guy that was the guy that the long ponytail. Yes I could see. Well feral I could see I it's another off board. Pick Ron Perlman on them. Also be funny just to be in to play the Producer guy is Marc Maron. Yeah I mean we'll see Marc Maron I. He wouldn't do it but I don't know that I mean I. I picked Keith Richards and Keith. Richards would not be an option but he just looked so much like the guy. But you know Matt Berry tweeted that me Tom Waits Oh yeah. That's a good one to like. It's so funny to see National Casting Director. Go now this is. Who'S IN OAK? I see that 'cause you need someone in once again. You could put. You could take the person with the best dental work in the world and make them look like. They're fucked up teeth. But that guy's teeth through chat Bennett said Bennett's on our live Bennett said Billy Merritt who's a UC beer? You've met Billy Wright. He's so funny he's in our show. Jetski and he said he should play the big guy that basically was the FBI Consultant which is a great cast. Billy looks just like him. I mean there's so many known and unknown people but in terms of the sex called guy. He's a little older. He's probably too old for the part but he kind of looks like him and he was in the. Og Star is born Kris Kristofferson. To All yeah. I mean I think he is too old though but you know you could like fucking in Hollywood. He's a great actor. So isn't you say who did you say? Jeff Galan Galvin acas could be the Zach Galifianakis once again. He could be joe exotic like yeah. 'cause he's definitely funny enough. Shave him You know but I love some of my favorite rolls in and of course I'll bring it back to the eighties like my two favorite bad guys in probably movie history. I'm just saying in terms of movies that I've seen while I've been alive was diehard Alan Rickman. Who before that had never played a bad guy he was always the good looking leading man etc. I like casting directors and directors casting directors. Don't just make the decision. It's the producer the director and cast it right but I like traditional actors who flip it like. I like people who take chances like I like in dumb and Dumber Jeff. Daniels did it in. Everyone said that's GonNa ruin your career and it did didn't it was just funny. Getting Robocop got the dad from that seventies show. Of course Robocop was twenty years before that but he had only really played dads and kind of Goofy guy and he was such a good bad guy. He loved it. I was scared of him. A bad guy from robocop two more or less him Ronny Cox. Who played the evil? Like the red headed guy from fifty to pick up. Or what you know. He's in he's the guy that's an. Csi Miami Caruso. Yeah he always he always plays a cop but then he was a bad guy. And what's that movie? And he was such a good piece of shit. I mean he's been a piece of shit in a few movies. I mean Kisa death. He was kind of a Which was wanted dead or alive wasn't a bad guy in that movie. I mean Kisa. Death was a bad remake. But it's a good film. If you if you don't know there was an og version of it you know that's when Nicholas Cage was Playing like this Weirdo Italian. Tough guys that come out. We know talion Well you know a movie. We saw recently that. I think if you would have said this cast. Now let's name the cast before we named the film you add. Ray LIOTTA ROBERT DENIRO. Harvey kyw till Who Else was Who's the girl the blonde girl? You like? A EIGHTY FALCO. I just amazing Group of actors and actresses and stallone was basically the lead cardiac hop land. That movie is so good. I didn't think it was going to be good. I was going to be shitty and it was actually good but I guarantee you I would hesitate to say that they had cast and most of that movie before they got so long before they got to still owed so much. What about still owns the cop and I guarantee you everyone in that room goes. Are you fucking nuts? But he was so good like such a good role for him because he's good when he plays he obviously he's dom but he obviously he's worth. God knows what he's worth and he's created not just one iconic character to. Yeah but he's so I don't know what it is but he's great at playing that dimwitted like rocky You know the the COP and cop land. I wouldn't say. Rambo was dimwitted but Rambo was a pretty simple character Vietnam vet who lost his mind and you know he's really good Embracing those type of roles when he asks any because he wasn't like I never watched Copley at that. He's trying to say I'm a good actor with Deniro is just it worked because he embraced that Hillbilly share of roll. We're bad actors and I'm asking you not telling you where were bad actors. Get into trouble when they try and prove I can act. Yeah I think here's the thing I think. If you're like Jona hit like people like Joni Hill or smart or stallone. Meaning you make a name for yourself you stick to what your nature niche. I don't know he said I've heard it two different ways you stick to what you are typecast as right. You do a few movies like that. Make a name for yourself. Then you pull the wild card. You don't do it in a leading role you do it in a supporting role people get used to you playing that role right like if you're a comic and you. WanNa play serious like Jona Hill? I the first serious role he did was in Django and he had a very small role. He played a racist cowboy. And you're like what the Fuck Dona Hills on this but then you got used to him playing in more serious movies. Matthew mcconaughey did the same thing. That's how you do it. That's how you crossover you make a name for yourself. You get yourself in the room with big actors you get yourself on a level in the genre you're good at and then you switch over and then you prove yourself that way. Yeah I mean 'cause you don't WanNa play I think sometimes the problem like say Jim Carey or even Sandler got into was every movie was the same. There's I got like Jim Carey's a sample. It was just a wacky guy who made the funny faces and was just like cable guy was liar. Liar was some of my favorite movies. Jim Carey's done have been serious movies. Yeah well I mean look at uncut gems for Sandler is like one of the best acting performances. We've ever seen. Yeah I mean I think yeah I or like Did you ever See Eternal Sunshine on spotless? Mind carried it is one of the best performances he's ever done but it but it goes to show you that. I think a lot of people think comedians aren't good actors. Like your good serious actor I mean. Did you goof off? But you've done serious things shows if you're comic in your training Improv. In your trained you learn to adapt quickly. But you still have those emotions. People don't think you do. A lot of comics are darker than serious actors. I think and when they get to do a serious role. I don't know I'm glad this well. No I mean like obviously I would almost say what I did on undying appear. We numbers barely in it. That's a serious show was a serious show but like my role on that and it was a very very small role was playing a drunk. Basically a bidder drunk comic now. I've never had a drink before my life but I at that point sixteen or seventeen years worth of experience of being around drunk bitter comics going. Okay this is how so-and-so acted that one night is girlfriend latimer's wife cheated on. I'm going to act like that. And Yeah so you know. I had like one of the main directors going. Are you still in recovery? Because I was doing such a good job playing a drunk. So your sex addict but I think that's why you see. Some of the best bad guys were good. Guy Actors. Who wanted to do something different? Like I love Jim Carey in his serious roles. Uncut Gem Sandler was amazing. Now in my head. That's even bill. Hader in skeleton twins with kristen wig to amazing. Ucb grounding Improv SNL ACTORS. Who played very serious roles and were phenomenal. Yeah I mean I think I'm trying to think of an example where an actor tried to talk to. I've I've had Some people who are strictly like drama. Serious actor say that and I. I think this is true. It is harder to be a drama actor and do comedy than to be a comedian switch over and do serious acting which is what I really saw. I'm dying up here and I know it was only around for two seasons but to see a serious actor Jake. Lacy who's always playing like the good-looking stud girls and guys played a Frat boy like try be you know. He's portraying a comic now and he was really good at it but he asked questions I you know he would come up to me and between taste. He knew like I was a comic. He's like well. What would a comic say here? And what would they do if a joke didn't work and like he was really invested in? I'm going to be the best comic I can be on the show. Let's because I think the one thing people forget about comedy is you have to. All fear of failure has said disappear in your mind when you step on any stage point was like he's coming from an acting world. He had no clue as to what a comic would do. If a joke didn't work or yeah and recover and like all the serious actors on that show who were playing comics would ask L. Magical or Erikgriffin Santino or may or the other. Yeah how would like Rick Overton? That's even like Clark Duke. Who We've both worked with. He did bad moms with name. He's a great comedic actor but he's not a stand up comic which are very different things you know like. He's known for doing comedy roles. But if you've never done stand up comedy there so many different ways to formulate a joke that I'm sure he even had questions for you or was nervous. We talked on wrestling wrestling. Where he but he. He's like me like he doesn't just like. Wwe He likes like independent wrestling. Like he would ask me. Hey did you see the pro wrestling guerrilla show which is like a big independent promotion will make? That's even deeper million. Michael Gra no Who Played Basically Clark's partner? I'm dying up here. He's another serious actor who had to play a comic and You Know He. He asked questions and I saw him one night. Inbetween takes talking to Rick Overton. Who's like a comedy legend questions and So that's one of the main reasons. I wish that show lasted longer to you. Got to see the great interaction between comics and actors it was. It was a really family vibe on that set. But you know didn't happen so someone asked if we watched honey boy with Shiloh above. No I WANNA watch it right now. Me and channel also watch different shows. I Y when she's Busy all right now. I'm burning through the one-season wonder Fox Show Faslane which was Like Miami Vice meets Fast and furious. We usually have one show we watch together and then we each have our own shows TV. Time Yeah I mean. 'cause we're usually out at night at the comedy store Date night or whatever and and now we have a tremendous amount of time where Not necessarily were bored. But like we're creative with what we do so You know we don't watch every show together like I wouldn't dream of making Chandler. Watch every episode Fast Lane Yeah that's when Lois. Nigel upstairs watch youtube videos. Yeah and then when jailers watching the show I go on Youtube and watch eighties wrestling matches when wrestling was good. So durant talk about the wildlife we've seen since quarantine so basically What we've been doing to alleviate some of the borden boredom and lack of exercise in our lives as we've been going for like every day for the two weeks I think the quarantine has been in place for two weeks. Now we've been going on seven to ten mile hikes but then the L. A. Has Shut down the parks hiking trails so we can't on hikes. We can't go the gym. We can't go to yoga. 'cause earl and I would alternate yoga and a hit workout boxing class every other day so we were doing an hour hour and a half of either. Yoga plaatjes or Boxing and that was like our Jim routine. Sometimes he'd go to equinox and do cardio but now that was out we were. We were hiking and now we go on Seven to ten mile walks through either Beverly Hills Hollywood west. We started our house and we walk about four miles and then we turn around and come home so and we probably burn like seven or eight hundred calories but it's constant we never really stop. Although last night we went through the mansion area Or one of them in Beverly Hills in. We'd stop and look at a house for a minute Also we. Lois is still building up. Her endurance 'cause it is amazing though because we have done because we used to go on walks with Lois like three miles Just to get a workout like a quick but now will walk six miles and like fill nothing. Yeah we've built up our endurance poor. Lois is We're trying to ten thousand steps now if we don't hit twenty thousand steps where like. Oh do anything today. You can only watch so much. Tv and speaking of watching TV. You see the jellies behind Chandler's head right now you can stream jellies and adult swim. That could help us get a third season. Adult swim looks at that Shit. So they'd be going adult swim and just punch in the jellies. You can watch every episode of the pilot episode. You can watch show them and then daddy man wants. This viruses over can work tyler. The Creator again and earned the shadow. Get Lois her expensive dog Fed. What we're going to go into the market these days Bathroom bathroom products are out. You know we found toilet paper The other night at Gilson's you would've thought we found powerball. Tickets start. Wiping are Hainanese with coffee. Filters well I mean You know I never thought a hoarding toilet. Paper would be a a life move but we have about a million jerseys. We could just use Hopefully we won't have the jerseys for long by the way if you know anyone who wants to buy about Well a lot of Jerseys Economic Good Deal Hockey Jerseys Jim Warren Hockey Jerseys. I used to wear them on stage because I had stage fright. And then once I got over the stage fright and discover John Barbados in Eve. Sought Laurent I don't wear the got you in the salt Iran. So but yeah I mean. We're all just trying to cope. Were trying to like. I think we'll get through this on the other side sooner than later but who knows when an unknown you know Yeah I mean crazy thing that I keep thinking about the blows. My mind is our children will ask us where we were when this happened like this is something like. I asked my grandma about the Great Depression because she was a little kid. You know what I mean like like our children will ask us remember like you know how like a common topic is like where were you when nine eleven happened and I remember I was in third grade I was in my house in Alabama. My mom was on the treadmill and I was eating breakfast like I and I remember. I used to feed the fish every morning so I was feeding the fish like I. I remember that like it was yesterday. I remember where I was. I was in bed and I kinda talk about this in a joke. I do about it but My sister called me. I think the first plane hit at eight twenty in the morning or or something like that. So it's five twenty. La of my sister called me. It was like turn on the TV at turn on the TV. You know the the world's gone mad they're attacking and I thought my sister had a bad batch of the powder so I was like. Let me call Fast Eddie Man. He'll get you a good dose and So I turn on the TV. But what I forgot was I was watching porn right before I fell asleep on September tenth. Two thousand one so this world looks great to May Halong Doing Bids. But it's true though that actually happened and then You know I can remember like ten seconds ago where I was like and then I called my ex girlfriend at the time because she was working at the the highest rise building in Los Angeles It's probably not the highest one now but back then it was handled. Forget the name of the building but she tore me plaza in century city. Now you're doing bits whereas I don't go to work today in in you know. I think she was in bed with her. Current boyfriend is like but why are you calling me like well you turn on the TV? Basically did to her. What my sister did a man can room that conversation? Was You know you know? Seconds ago so You know I'm sure people are kids kids and this will go down as Like our history books. Oh yeah absolutely. Vanish. -fluenced was so you know but I don't you know once flat curve people stay inside. Wash your hands and you know. Don't fucking happy. Don't breathe directly on people you know this'll end in a month or so hopefully and don't let us out. Well I mean you know the sports leagues are all scrambling what to do. I know I saw proposal today that the NHL. I don't know if they're seriously considering this but were just saying fuck it. Every team makes the playoffs. I mean it's also like lucky for you and I. We both have a decent savings but were both in the entertainment industry. Which like when stuff like this happens. We're fucked immediately. I'm literally out of work until June. Like every single event show anything is done like it is done. Yeah I mean you know obviously I had a big GIG to headline club in San Diego and a few weeks. You know. It's probably going to get canceled because you figure let's just say best case scenario tomorrow. They say you can go out of your house. You know it's GonNa take a few weeks to a month for people to probably feel comfortable about going to a hockey game comedy club or whatever literally out of kings game. Today's before the quarantine. Oh I mean we were at King Game And then you are on a set of Holy Moly Shit on of Australians edges flown in internet. You know probably a the nights I went to visit you. There are probably hundreds of people onset. No and then I went to a kiss concert by myself. You know here. I am twenty thousand people you know but I wasn't that concerned I mean there's there's many worst viruses at a kiss concert than corona and. I think the game we saw were the was the kings in the Ottawa. Senators and four senators tested positive for corona virus. I probably shouldn't have gone to a king game You know or but that's that week was kind of the right before the hysteria hood. Yeah but you know. Everyone's everyone is freaked out so much about this and I go back to the air one who literally act like I had the plague. Because I didn't have on a face mask or gloves like I'm not breathing on anyone and I'm also not touching any like I'm going to wash my hands when I get home. I don't need to put on gloves. But if people act this way about a virus. Imagine how they'd acted there. Were actual aliens. This is why they don't tell us anything. Well some people are just stupid like I remember. I think you were working the night or the day or the night. I guess after the kiss concert so it was a Thursday night in. That's kind of right around when they're like. Hey you gotta stay home. Social distancing wasn't fully in place but the word was starting to spread no six-speed. Don't get near anyone so I'm on the elliptical at equinoxes. I'm literally the only person in a row of about. I'd say twenty left a close and I think there's like five Different bikes at the end. So twenty five exercise machines. I'm the only one in the row. This idiot gets right next to me on the second elliptical dude like. I'm not a germ freak. I'm not having a panic attack but do you realize like yeah so like it's just stupid. Read the room dude. Well look at the first night. I think of the the lockdown or whatever you WANNA call it a quarantine. We walked by the revolver which is a gay bar slash nightclub and I've never seen it so crowded. Yeah and at first. I was like they were a- West Hollywood was pump and they knew because that was when they said they were shutting it down at midnight so literally everyone was like. Let's shut it down. Let's like shut it down with like a bang type of thing but at first that made me happy of like. Hey we're not gonna just let this beat us you know like we have the highest rate of cases in thirty five cases. Now it's more now. You may look it up so well. Chandler's that we're gonNA cut the instagram live Just because we don't want you to watch the whole thing here and that listen on Apple podcasts. Talk a few more minutes on The podcast so you gotta listen to inappropriate earl and apple podcasts. In soundcloud for those of you who don't do the apple thing and for those of you. Who Do the apple thing did? It would really help if you left a review for us on Apple podcasts. We love you. I appreciate the fans I mean less than let's be honest. I don't do this for money. I don't make one dollar on this podcast. I do it to release content for you guys so I don't ask you guys much. But we get thousands of listens on these episodes. We do if just ten percent of you left a review that would get me into the charts again because to get on the charts of Apple. Podcast if he want earl on Joe Rogan's podcast. You GotTa Leave Review. So he's popular but that's how it works like the Algorithm on Apple podcast is rating subscriptions and reviews and I'm not going to get back on the charts again with you know seven reviews. It's just the way it works. Janada you know obviously I'd love to be unjust podcast. But let me say this is a public service announcement because I know some of the fans tweet at Joe Si- to With that podcast you have to be asked to be on it and the number one way to ensure of not getting on. Joe's podcast is if your fans Kinda tweet Joe because it just looks like I told you guys to do that. So it'll happen organically and but we're going to talk a little bit more about the corona virus and maybe some more cast in suggestions. Okay I love you all so as of Friday at noon there were fourteen sixty five cases in twenty six deaths in Los Angeles and West. Hollywood out of those fourteen hundred cases is fifty two. We have the used to write like a long shot. But I don't think it's because Lindell's the other Glendale is forty-six only like close one. But I don't think it's because we're unhealthier than any city but I think people don't realize it. West Hollywood is dense is a one point nine square mile city and that's a lot of people packed into a small area. So it's really more you know like you take a place like long beach which spread out and it's kind of open you know with beaches and stuff. We don't have that like. Yeah if you live in West Hollywood. You're either an apartment building. That's on top of another apartment building. Are you even look at the homes There's one St. That's right above US. That's probably about Probably fifteen home seven or eight on each side. There's no yard. You can literally from your bedroom door touching neighbors wall. Yeah so privacy. That's for sure. So that's why you know if one person in the building has corona virus you know Darin close proximity to a lot of people. So you know that's why Bingo on a cough on people. Yeah I mean. It's that's why it's a little aggressive right now in our neighborhood supermarkets because you know we really only have in this in West Hollywood you have three markets basically house. Yeah four all sins trader. Joe's sprouts and pavilions. Yeah now and most people if you're not into really health and fitness you. Kinda don't even consider going to sprouts or trader Joe's 'cause they only do well the focal Janik trader. Joe's and sprouts is they pride themselves on being strictly like fresh produce meaning. They don't like do canned vegetables or anything. Which is what everyone's been buying so if you go on a sprouts it's Kinda Nice because there's not as many people there right but you know but pavilions mad house. There's a line out the door. Billions is a madhouse because You know I guess you'd say where people who don't work out go you know because it's just regular pharmacy there so And you know people who do work out also go there but like sprouts is also where people get like cleaning supplies in tampons and hair care and you know so. That's why you know the supermarkets are like crazy right now. You know now liquor stores or kind of the secondary supermarkets for us because they have some food bread and toilet paper cranberry juice and like I said Man. Jalen found toilet paper. I think a week ago at Gilson's and it was like you know we had found the Fountain of youth or something that was You know we bought that stuff. And it wasn't a good kind either the type that you know gives you hemorrhoids it so holiday tough times. Yeah you gotTa Wipe with what you've gotTa Wipe and you definitely rash in the squares so Chandler before we go. Is there anything else you would like to get into Watch my show global investigator on Discovery Channel Wednesday nights. I think at nine PM starting April sixth. I WanNa say that's I think this week and then holy. Moly is coming out. I wrote on Holy Moly season two out this summer and I mean probably by summer will be out and about again but Take Talk Yeah. She owners blowing up on talk. I'm not doing that well on it but I'm not I'm not as active as Chandler is What do you talk just C. H. A. N. Barbie B. A. R. B? I of course on Tick Tock at Earl Skakel I think. Just my name I don't have that many Taylor has like hundreds of videos. I've got like seven and then of course Chandler Where are you on twitter and Instagram? Just my name Chandler Barbie. That's B. A. R. B. Nut Barbie Barbie Doll tweet earl that we should get a puppy for Lois. I mean lowest is back in the house as you know Lois is parttime daughter. A splitter but we have her back because of our social situation right now. She's a welcome addition to the home because The you know you get lonely with the social when you take two. People has socialism in Chandler. Are you basically just lock us down? Has You know with everyone else you know. A dog is really amazing right now and if you have the capacity to do so not to take this to macab into the podcast but Foster a dog you know if you can adopt you can because you know a lot of people are financially freaking out and getting rid of any expenses. And they're dropping off their perfectly healthy dogs shelf. I mean some of these are perfectly healthy. They just think they can't take care of them and you know There's some there's some Website that will bring will donate to you dog food. If that's stolen reason you can't keep your dog but it's like if you're struggling that much financially. There's no harm in that but don't get a fucking dog. It's like these people who squirt inside of a woman they have a kid and then Bernie Sanders and worn. Want me to pay for it because daddy man has a couple of bucks in the bank. Listen after last week in the stock market. I may have to get a real job so yolks and you guys know me. I don't like manual Labor But yeah this was fun Hopefully it sounds all right. I don't believe I'm going to be able to edit it. Sound wise like I do every other Episode but you know you guys were. Dma saying we need a podcast So an in tough times we go above and beyond for my fans so This has been inappropriate. All the corona virus edition. We got some fun guest coming up but during a quarantine. They don't WanNa come over so we might do a few more solo podcast and a review. Some movies maybe all review fast lane or something for you guys and hope everyone's healthy wash your hands take a shower every now and then Don't directly breathe on people Gopher some walks late at night when there's no one out there and if you're a l. a. local And if you're walking up and down Fairfax Boulevard. There's been a fan. That's been putting up inappropriate or flyers or posters and stencils all over the ground Because I think they want me to become the first SOUNDCLOUD COMIC. Hallo happen so Thank you Chandler Barbie as always and We will see guys sooner than later. Stay safe everyone.

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UF260: TJ Dillashaw and Alexander Hernandez

UFC Unfiltered with Jim Norton and Matt Serra

1:10:59 hr | 2 years ago

UF260: TJ Dillashaw and Alexander Hernandez

"Hey, we have a great episode of you have see unfiltered, we talk about a little gossip, and we speak to Alexander Hernandez, and we speak to T J dillashaw match been getting a lot of shit over that last interview. And I don't know how this is going to go it goes. Well, Jimmy, hold on cut them. This away. The nobody is sitting chasing that finish. The. He's he's out. This is UFC on filtered. And now your hosts Jim Norton and mad, Sarah. Oh. Some good. That's that's good Java. You're going to do on day. Let the song play on here. Fades out. That didn't it's pretty cheats. Pretty catchy. We have a good show today. We hope we have we do have Alexander. Hernandez calling it. We've never spoken Alexander. But is fighting Cowboys Sironi who does not look the same with his beard? It's very strange seeing cowboy with that beard was older with the beard. Yeah. Like him better without him like two hens. I don't know. Do you think it's a good color tell you Alexander? The great in end is twenty six years old look at those apps on this kid and his lead to won his last fight. Mercier? Yeah. Wouldn't yes. All been mercy. I said that right? Did. Yes. I did. That was a nice fight, man. That's a that's a good fight. I it's always like right here. It looks like it's a tough eight for cowboy I do feel this a tough kid. But man, we count cowboy out the guy wins. I like I'm not trying to get him out. Sure. I think. I think he's a tough fight obviously for anybody. So well rounded, I don't see this kid getting caught in an online the way the mistake that Mike Pence jitsu looked high level. He what is he the Brown belts? I read. He looks good. He looks good on top and bottom. There was some. Mercy. I had some deep some subs at least had one Comoro, and it was titan had several bad positions. And he got out of it. And and here's a great gas tank. And he and he's very well rounded. So what a, you know? It's a great fight. I mean, not nothing. He star Star News. You know? And dude is tough. Yeah. So I what I say Dhanush done new Xiang client what she got it. Jimmy. I'm sorry thorough. So what? Just shit jokes was one of those jokes. I I didn't recognize Joe. I recognized Joe speaking shit comedy. I saw my buddy Deane Thomas was on. Joe Rogan's podcast was he? Yeah. You know? How was he a Joe does a podcast Joe is awesome ice only saw a little bit? You know, like I through the Paul where here my name, and I said. Yeah. Do that, Jamie. He's coming in next week. He is coming in this week. Thanks. Thanks for the warning lost TJ dillashaw is gonna call into. I got some shit. I got some shit over that. 'cause you always look on YouTube like to. I'm serious. Never let me finish. But do you really check on YouTube? I know this what I do. I'm looking on YouTube. I see looking for that. But that pops up. Sure. So maybe maybe like the what pops up pops up. What I was. I said Matt Serra is says. DJ shit on us or something like that. That's pissed it dude. Listen am. I really pissed. I thought about that show away home. He was talking about. Human. I get over pretty quick about a time. These headphones are off it's out of my head. But it's over the airwaves, and you know. So people get upset over it. All you. How you big baby. Which I can't argue I'm outta banned some people because you know, the attack is the ram was. So my my happy, please. I don't like negativities, I'll just ban you. I don't like anything you say to me. But you know, whatever man, I don't know. I like a good time. I have good time. So we're having a good time and somebody else's like it's just like, oh, it's not his fault. But it doesn't mean I can't lash out at the guy say fuck it. So your legs a little sort today to go out and get over here. Jimmy might just rambling. I wanted to mention that you're giving. Why do I look that fucked up because you said that you were hobbling over from Penn station. Did she walked could you still put a guy trailer? I did this morning, man. You tack my guys I'll tell you p Drago sell all these years a rolling. He has one speed. And he has any one goal with the spiel really does he intends MRs goal kill speed. He's intense. He's wants to date is doesn't. And now he's doing the lay Alexander on the phone. Yes. Hey, buddy. We're talking to Matt Sarah. And Jim Norton on you have unfiltered. How're you doing? What's up Alexander? Hey, guys. How y'all doing very well. This is a big fight for you. Coming up. I mean, you've beaten to really tough guys ready. How did the cowboy fight come about? No, just fate. I guess I was as you guys know plan on that although fight and we were about six weeks out. It's probably like maybe Thursday evening after practice, my manager chasing house and meshes me. Call me, a sap text me a few times. So that's either, you know, really good or really bad news. And so when I got done training, I shot him over a call. And he told me that Shelby brought to the table. The option of fight Sironi which like everybody else was like huge huge surprise last. I heard he was trying to talk the idea fighting McGregor or someone of that effect. And so out of the hell they fell on me. I was I was bath as everybody else. But yeah. Like anything else, I've agreed and seize that opportunity so days went by in limbo of waiting on the confirmation. And then again like everybody else feels like I get the final word. When when they do inevitably on the ship, they're going through Instagram and cell tag with with Sironi number photos. And and then I get the tax deal done. So all you find out on social media like the rest of. It always happens. Like that. You know, I got I guess, of course, we obviously get the word that that. It's nothing the works. And then by the time, I get the final word. I feel like everybody else does as well. And you say that works I want to quote you Alexander great quote. He said the UFC is laying down Persian silk linen. And spreading his legs from me right now, which is letting loose all the pharaoh moans. And I am in. I'm definitely taking full advantage of that. So you at least recognize the cowboy is a pretty big to main event a big stage to be on. Yeah. Huge. You know, I don't I don't see him as any more threatening than turn. All do. You know, I have most respect for that fight as I do this one. This just happened to have a bigger name behind it. He's also name and wake ac- to the game. So for me, this is like the perfect step up in competition for my career to catapult me into the next limelight. The next level of, you know, just competitive fear and talk and say, I apologize. It's the main event of the ESPN prelims the main event, of course, it's on the T J pseudo card, but it's still a big spot to be in. I mean because cowboy normal doesn't fight on the prelims. No, I so the way that that same interview referring to him may junkie the way they laid it out, which I'm hoping is the case, we're actually I'm we're on actually SPN, and then the pay per view is kind of like an ESPN. Plus is that correct? Yeah. Yeah. That's that's that's fucking brilliant. I wanna be happier about that. And I think it's just again as a testament that the shares the same vision idea of you know, me being the future of this as Asian not just a division. Well, you are ten in one. I mean, you're you're obviously, I mean this'll be third fight in in the US. The first fight you had against dare us. I have to ask you about the opening of like you came out like you're about to touch loves through a beautiful kick to the body. Now was that intentionally just to try to relax him for a second. Or did you change your mind as it was happening? No. And I'm really my back in the talk touches their backhand. I was I was just framing. Yeah. Yeah. So it was more of a range depth shot. I've been planning the entire week that I need to disrupt cadences aggressively as possible 'cause they're uses a slow stalker. You know, he likes to he likes to build momentum. And then corner his opponent and keep them caged. And then when he feeds off that and gets his his his confidence, and aggression, you know, based on based on his opponent dwindling. I guess the cage. So for me I wanted to disrupt all that immediately. And I thought putting a foot hardwood? What helps so? Okay. Yeah. The idea was to charge as fast as I could being the bunch and then kind of project the next the next shots to follow. So once once I landed that, and then I saw that overhead of the hook. I'm merely new you know, you and I had to completely different speeds. And so it was only a matter of time before I caught that hand you gotta tough wrap on that. Because Rogan when we saw it just now, wait a second. And he go to and then we watched it again. In Rogan, call to the same way. All we faked the touch so it did look. But then when you look at it, you did have your arms out. It's not like you had your hand up palm towards him to go within are used to punch clubs. I think he went to was met with a foot in the fucking face. Pander that shit. You know, I can't tell you what he was thinking. But my intent was never to the pool like quick one over his head. I just I just try to line them up. It was like I haven't those are my scopes, I was nearing him in. And then I shot a shot. Now cowboy Cowboys a huge name. I mean is the names like this the McGregor the the DA's, and and then like right on like Neath that I'm gonna say that a little bit mcgregor's up there. But I mean Cowboys right there. He's huge. He's huge in the UFC, people know who cowboy Surani is this would be a huge feather in your cap. And this would put you on the map, it don't get me wrong. Just came over to tough guys on. Fortunately, not a lot of guys know those guys besides the people that are like the die hards like us. We know those guys are the average fans all I know that cowboy guys wacky or whatever they they like him they they know him. So I mean how. That for the motivation for his any different each fight is the biggest fight of your life. But this is feeling different. Finding a guy with this recognition marriage, exciting thrilling, there's nothing more to it. You know, people keep asking me about about the about the name. And I keep saying I don't give a shit about his name or the promotion, the venue the city. No disrespect, of course, New York and Brooklyn the credible. But I mean, like, I'm not I'm not building this up in my mind like that. I don't pay attention these guys. I don't I don't watch a lot of footage in my spare time, I don't watch ten fights in my spare time there's a few guys I like to watch and study and any late, and I pay attention my own growth. But if I spent all this time doing on the patch, I've already accomplished shit. He's accomplished. And there would be no space for me to focus on the future. So Cowboys cowboy and I separate that entirely from whatever like image is built up or or you know, the media behind it or all that other shit. You still just a poor sold out STAN across from me in my cage. And so. I'm not worried about I'm not worried about anything that that his title brings to the table. And at the end the day should just another man. Sure. Sure. I think Cowboys just the the range of fighters that he's fought and just little level of experience and the level of competition. He's faced would you say that this is the guy who's probably faced the toughest it has he faced the better fighters of all the guy's face before. Cowboys is is the most dangerous forty five. So yeah, pretty good array of a folks scrap with say, he's probably the most. Well, he's coming. He's coming back though. I mean, he was five and four a welter weight and he's coming back down, and maybe know mentioning fighting Connor maybe if he ever did that he wants to be accustomed to fighting lightweight again. But I wonder if he's coming down because he just was not not enjoying being hit by guys that size will this way cut at this point have any kind of an effect on because you're you're obviously such a fast fighter in your move soil. You know? I don't know it seems like he's he's almost temperamental in his decisions. You know? And he's always looking for for an escape, it seems you know, things aren't going well from if I let me run a seventy things are going. Well, it seventy on me when get back to fifty five, and I guess things we're going to be finished that big fight Perry. But he's always looking for something else. And against me looking guy with a hundred percent of his focus on one thing in one mission one of one purpose, and I'll be damned if I got a guy who put sixty percent, seventy whatever the hell, it is and the one splits his time because he's seeking out. Let's try to comfort him. We'll hold a candle to to my undivided attention. Okay. You know way so season Cowboys putting sixty percent into basically. And you're saying you're putting a hundred percent. Is a day to day ritual of my life. Yes, I'm sure he put all ensure he's putting plenty of attention to this camp needs to. But I I don't have kids. I don't have a wife anything else. So I have my gym and I'm an eager student. I'm not going down the first one to class every day shirt shit the last and when I get tired of being in the gym, I train outside you know. That's how I love myself. And so I I don't I don't have the distractions that I'll need them. He's twenty six years old Jimmy. Yeah. He's got that going form, and your endurance will tell you. I know you weren't too happy. You said that you weren't happy with your last performance, which was a great. It was victory. With a mercy. And I'll tell you that dude. He's he's no he's no punk. I'm not crazy about his mustache like Jimmy said earlier. I'm not a big fan. I'm not a big fan of. Dangerous. I'd say, yeah, you're saying some films of the nineteen seventies. Baseman shot. He probably start in. But. Be honest Alexander. When you got caught in that Comores that you say, listen, I'm not getting to that mustache. I'm not did that come out at all. The first three things around him. My mom. Bearing not finish my second five. There's no fucking where I'll tell you some great scrambles in that in that match. And you know, if you've seen I'm sure you have Cowboys lists fight with his arm bar on Mike Perry. That was really a my cowboy did what we supposed to do. But as far as posture and. Jujitsu wise, he kinda handed him that home. Yeah, I'm a philanthropist. I'm not a fucking donating to the Red Cross, and the cage that was a that was a handout, I'm not I'm not I'm not impressed by that not even in the sinus. Mike gave him that the scrambles on the ground were like the least professional scraps of shit. I'd seen in the the nothing about that was like oh an overwhelming performance. I mean, just check it two or three times and you'll start to break down. It's not he's got a tip your hat. He's got a point with that on lock. It was beautiful. I mean cowboy did what you're supposed to do. But he did he did what you're supposed to. Yeah. But, but the you know that was my Perry's bad for sure. Yeah. My president here. You know, you don't wanna fuck interest thought clubbing cow somebody dangerous guards by the neck. And look the punch me in the face. It's not the best right? Jimmy, right taking you're putting your head down. It's true. And you raise you raise in Saint Louis, what kind of neighborhood did you grow up in was it was like a sub ever say Louis area. Fine. Every everybody just takes like, a a home base. For me say Saint Louis is actually I was born in Saint Louis. I'm moving I was three and I grew up in this little town called canton, Georgia and for elementary school, George super white black. And then then I moved to San Antonio in San Antonio, Texas in middle school and all the time. I was like holy shit. That's where all the Brown people when my pay over here. And so I spent majority of my life in Texas. What nationality are you? I'm half Mexican half life. Oh, you are. Okay. So why did you move so much that you dad military parents military? My won't and Lewis Georgia. Parents split when I was three. So I moved over there. And then when my mom died when I was ten I moved over to Texas with my dad, all okay. And then you got involved obviously in mixed martial arts when when you were there, what got you involved in it. I just started wrestling. So my dad Russell through high school, and maybe a little before, but he rests the rice school and me being we come from like a series of short jeans. And so I I grew up playing basketball back home. And then I kinda realized I was just too short and I sucked. And so we thank God. Let me in, you know, more suitable sports. So wrestling was great because also like a terrible lay bloomer probably Peabody details like twenty three and so power pound needs something to my vantage. And so I got into wrestling weighing ninety eight pounds freshman year and just kept at it. And that was probably the most testing terrifying. Years of my life though, like freshman sophomore year of having to getting wrestling and just take on all the qualities of that sport livers, you know, I I grew up wrestling relatively felt like that was my entire life there for about six years, and then ended up not doing it in college and then found found jitsu Moi tie. And then found my head coach I've been listening to the beginning Jason guarantee that'll haunt academy. And and the rest of kinda history just sort of you're sort of picked up for fun wrestling courses like that phenomenal base. I guess you get through an entire immature career and. Part of the way into professional one to badge start scrapping with those guys. And it was kinda like all right? Maybe go in and try amateur bout. There's this TV show and south Texas for amateurs, I did. And then got my first bout did that enough? And then it was like, okay. I mean, we go ahead and do professional someone professional, and then you know, kind of kept on that way. And you've talked to about really like loving TJ dillashaw, we're extra talking TJ and a little while while I mean, he is really one of my favorite guys to watch. What was it about him that kind of resonated? Yeah. So I and I do I do love TJ dillashaw, but I don't blow his dick like core may have me. Viewing whenever he like pulled out shit out of his ass. He was saying that I find out like Jesus Christ got a I got like a thanks you area. Dillashaw my closet or something. I got like a kind of starburst monument of him as built up. You don't worship them like with with. I don't wear those got crazy respectful, and I think he's one of the greatest ever. But. Yeah. Just a just just a guy I like to like to look up to. But I think he's awesome. So his style men. So I like I said I don't follow around. I don't just watch. You see all the time. I do bit more now. But I never just like spend weekends just catching all the fights every weekend. But there are people that I'd like strive to emulate GOP was a big one dominant. Crews are washed a lot TJ dillashaw was kinda like when the next guy's in line. And when I watched him fight Hinton Barral for that first time when he was I think he's like twelve and one and hidden Barral was or maybe like twelve in two or something in Barral was like thirty two and one and he just had to get the call to get pulled up last minute, and he's a super underdog. And when I wash them go out there and put that display on did, I shed a fucking tear. It was the most like magnificent thing I've ever seen. And it wasn't just a skill is the fact that he rose that occasion. And put on the way he did. I mean that was like. Beyond glorious and like magnifying, but a person could do so ever since. Like, I gotta watch this do. So then I like started, you know, going through the archives dillashaw and just just really get into. And then I started mixing my style up like him. How for not point I start really switching stances. And so he was the guy you kind of got me to start switching stances heavily. And then I got his go my legs. I did my right and started of picking up some of those moves by still mixed in like kind of a little GSP. And then of course, you know, you guys like the Greg from the scene, and that's like holy fuck. That's a whole nother style right there. And so I started trying to pick up McGregor style movement characteristics, rather? And then you get even guys like fucking could even their pressure on the ground. And I just a little things the way I do on the cage to defend him one day. And then also just kind of a little bit more fish in my grip. So I'm I'm very respectful, these guys games, you know. And certainly not a buff thinking that like I've got all the answers because these guys paid the way for a reason so guys crews like really really hard guys to train for or hard guys to figure. Out there. You know, that's a good guy to kind of want to at least learn something from because he seems like a very very hard guy to prepare because he strikes in every way, and he's extremely hard to figure extreme more than anything. I wanted to be unorthodox. I wanted to be unique and unorthodox. And so I put my own flavor on on their on their foundations. You did. Well, then we're really fun fighter to watch. And they have a lot of faith and you put in you up against cowboy. And again, if it's the main event of the prelims, they know people are gonna be watching that fight. That's always a good fight. And cavalry never fights down there. So you're his first fight back lightweight in a long time. So let's see how he handles that. That's a fifteen pound cut from what he's having to use to. It's not typical ten pound drop. So we'll see if that affects or cardio at all try this time. I heard you against me last time partner who I bet against you. That's what I heard all. You know what dude? I wasn't familiar. You had one fight with door news rush. Rush. Right. And you start them. But there wasn't a lot to really base it on. And I I seen a little bit more tape on mercy. But I'll tell you, man. I'm I'm put me on the spot. I'll be on. I'm I think about this. I'm gonna think about this, Alex. And listen, I hold you very if it was just how exander you tell him. What's that? If you're gonna just take out. I'm on the fence. Not going to be on the fence. I'm on the fence right now. But I'm gonna think about this because I was just watching both fights before we called, you gotta think about eighty gotta really think about it. But I do listen, it's exciting and Alana is going to be on it and. Listen, you're gonna listen this episode end of it. You'll have this. You'll find out what's. It's very tough to picky. Cowboy too though because he just he he wins a lot of people don't expect them to win. And then he won't look as good for a fight because he fights every two weeks. So a couple of fights. He'll look like, oh, no. He's lost two straight. And then he just starts winning again. He's a really really hard gotta best as well. But you sound like a smart for your age to you're my first fight at twenty six. I mean, you sound very mature eleven fights. Yeah. This is a listen. I was in this is exciting. And you know, what I say you are also one of my one of my finest heroes too. And Alexander, I'm only. Upset upset get my card. Arouse the young loud at one point in my life. So. And you're gonna be around for a long time. You are man. I'll tell you. You're funny. You got your exciting to watch and your youngest. How you got the world by the nuts? Alexander all best, man. Good talking to you, man. Thanks. He's he's a fun kid. He's great man got a good personality too. And people will want like anyone who can just do interviews. Like that is just fun. He has opinions people are gonna wanna talk to him. So people are gonna get to know you very quickly. I love you or hate your some people like people love or hate TJ. Now, I know cruise give it there's nothing put on about this. Know and not for nothing when he was gonna fight. Mercy. Mercy had had a few fights in that took out. I don't remember it. It's funny though. I would never remember that. Because we do so many picks. Yeah. I I didn't know we were talking today. I didn't know that I picked against them. But it's hard to tell you first of all, very, he sees smart. He's not he's smart with his fight. I q for twenty six. Sounds sounds up there. Like, you know what? I mean. He's not just a dumb kid. Yeah. No. Like this. When I was bringing up the the Mike Perry fight. He knew that was a gimme like like you. Don't like, I'm sure my pairing. Now is is it himself in the head with literally like a caveman. Very I like Perry. I do like these Mike ferry. He's great for the sport. But he's gonna learn from that. But that's that comes on the proper posture. Jimmy. Yeah, you know, you don't wanna be a table in a an inside in somebody's going. You know, what I mean, if you're a table above somebody, you take away of armor that table. It's gonna fall you want to be like a tree Jimmy posture. I don't even got to be looking down up has go look through the roof. He met the ceiling. He's Brazilian moves a ceiling Saint place, but he met he was he said looked at a roof. I didn't know what the fuck then. I get it ends. Oh, he was looking at. His back in the nineties. What are we got Alexsandr very? A lot. I love cowboy to it's really really hard for me to choose against Cal. And I think you're going to have a problem because cowboy potentially is coming in next Wednesday's when we do our pick. So you're going to be in a weird position. I pick right. The front of the guy. Cowboy to. I'm listen is the thing every time I pick against cowboy the guy. I maybe we should want me to pick against them. I picked Perry over them Perry was coming looking like a the raging bull getting ready for that. If radio tattoos on his face. Haircut like a peacock, whatever. And this crazy Instagram's Mike I to very much. I like that kid is good. There's Alexander personality. What was what was kicking parties saying that was great nobody saying I'm not blowing teach blown dick like? I like way he has been deployed, dick. And what what did was he saying that he was just trying to I don't know late. I guess he was saying that he really idolized or looked up to TJ he might have overstated Alexander's enjoyment of TJ getting I'm sure specs TJ. Like, you said he likes him, but he doesn't necessarily hero worship him. Christopher someone gets hit on a fucking bike crossing the street how they build a monument to them on the highway like all of a sudden, you'll see a fucking white bicycle with a bunch of flowers on it and candle. He saying he doesn't do that for TJ leagues. I him. I didn't know what these see said to make him games really saying that he was guessing that that root beer do. You are going to go to repair. Sure. Yeah. I like root beer. Yeah. You wanna just demand to you too? Nice of like a ten year old alignment. Well, this is the Zevia this is that soda that. Jimmy. Yeah. I look good. Yeah. Yeah. You do. You do. Our discussing at before you walk. Yeah. I know. But Jimmy going under the knife. Tomorrow told you yes, you are getting up they taking my sack out Jimmy. Yep. Of my knee. I understand I understand if it was your fucking balls. You'd be a lot less calm. I know Jimmy look at look at me. It is bosom. It is a beaker everytime. I know it's probably up today. Now, it's big. But I got to take care of that you, but what's really a bitch. Is that my left leg? Just make me walk weird. So I mean, I think by March I'll be back to rowing hard. Okay. Right. Yeah. I'm sure maybe a month. I might get driven in next week. We'll figure that out. I mean, not just not interesting. But now. Listen to me, those talk about some latest news. Yeah. Do we want to get into the Kobe Covington stuff? Jimmy. We were talking. I would like to because you know, even though Colby doesn't like me. I gotta say I've been pretty adamant about thinking he deserved a shot against Woodley. Because he did. He was the interim champion, and I don't know why. But he saying he was basically ready to fight. And the only time he wasn't ready to fight was on six weeks notice when he was already scheduled for sinus surgery, but he said he was leaking blood and mucus sinus surgery. Like, I don't think that's just it's not like he was getting a nose job to look pretty. I think it was probably a breathing issue for him. And you know, again, you gotta be able to fuck him breathe when you're fighting. So as somebody with sinus trouble, if you'd let me digress for fifteen or twenty minutes. Don't do this. I received in the mail. I hear the thing that Phoenix recommended. But I'd also looked what's it called the Nevada. I got one and I've been blown out my nose with it. And it's not bad. I. I have a deviated septum sit down folks, it's gonna be a long one. I have a DVD. So what happens is this thing? Fucking sucks. It put suction your nose and fucking forces like saltwater throughout the other side. So it's it helps you breathe a lot. But it's not the same as getting the surgery. So if Cody had to do that, I get it unless he was make cold sorry called because I always say, but if we had to do that, I get it. I mean, not breathing man had to cancel a fight one time choline event. Shevchenko couldn't bet though why did they? He's by listen. I wanna I wanna see Comoro. Anyway, I wanna see either one of these dudes either one I'm surprised that they went with that only. 'cause you you would think that would the would Koby in the character is it'd be a bigger fight. Yeah. I mean, listen Comorros is very dangerous. Yes. He is. You know? But it is it is I don't I don't know you were gonna say befuddled. I'm befuddled by this. Yeah. We'll part of it. Also, though is when you know, tyrants, the champ, that's the thing. So when tyrants ready that's kind of when the number one contender has to be ready to fight tire ready to fight in February. I understand Kobe was having surgery so that, but that fact. You know what I mean? It's like when tyrants ready to fight. He's had surgery on his thumb now he's gonna be ready to fight in March. Yeah. Somebody's got to be ready to find and tyrant saying that he is happy to fight Kamara in March. And then he'd like to turn it around and fight Colby in June gossip what are they saying man called the human? He's saying he was really going in hard on Dana said that he said, I'm gonna read this now Dana as the boss knows. These are not my thoughts. I don't really have a relationship with Dana white said, Matt Sarah, and I don't give a shit about Olga. He's cashing out. He's made all the money off the fans all the fans built whenever you said. A lot of stuff. He goes. Hey, he's keeping Lorenzo he said he was just Lorenzo's little check. Boy, he goes, he's a piece of shit person. There's no morals and he's kind of challenging him. He's going I'm daring. He goes you said you don't allow I'm tested, you motherfucker. Let's see how big your balls are released me bitch. Now, again, daynuss pretty immune to show talking from fighters. Dana understands that because first of all Dana will talk shit about any fighter when he feels it's necessary. And he almost Dana pretty. He doesn't seem to get this stuff because he knows it's you know, somebody pissed off right and do his fight. And he's not a little check. Boy, like check boy, probably like go sign these checks her houseboys almost eager house. Don't call me that what Chris said it. So so anyway, so what did he say? What did who say? So that. Yeah. I mean Kobe was on all day. Dana coming on our show. I you know, what I didn't even ask don't don't think. We'll probably we could we could save you to talk to us. Jim. I don't care if he does not. But why don't we? But you know, what? In fairness, though, you saying this all along you you've said that you'd like to see him get the next shot. I have even after he gave me a even after he bad mouth. My good name risk to lawsuit. I have said that he deserves the next shot at Tyronn. Because again, I love camario. I like come on better than call be. I know him better, and I like him better. But I think Koby deserves that shop because when they asked him to step up he beat RDA very, very handily. I mean so tomorrow, but you know, Kobe did I and I think that shot should go to him. Because again, whoever wins that fight Kamara against either. One of those guys as the champion is a great fight. Sure. Yeah. And but but by the same token, whoever wins, the the Woodley Kamara find then you can sell that next. When it gets cold one hundred percent, that's too. And again, I think for wonderboy it's much better. If obviously anybody's champion but tiring because he's already fought him twice. And if he wants to another shot at the title, which I'm sure he does now him who's he talking about fighting who gonna come up from one hundred five. Wonder boy, that's a that's a very bold move by Pettus to come up fifteen pounds and fight someone as difficult as Thompson. Yeah. For sure. But you're absolutely right. But I think that that if he's going to do it wonder boys a good opponent for him because you know, that's not gonna go to the ground. That's not really what he's trying to do. He they can both stand. Yeah. Sure. If they're striking and that'd be a really interesting now and pets a tough time not tough time. But it's it's a it's a steep cut for him to get the one fifty five anyway. So I'm sure it's not that crazy rooms of seventy. Yeah. That'd be I mean, I'd pay to watch that fight. You know, what I mean, we don't have to we don't I wouldn't stand for ticket. Hey, by the way for people that are this weekend. So this on ESPN ESPN, plus you can go to all the UFC like social media channels. They'll be posts on how to subscribe to ESPN. Plus, we're just five dollars a month. That's completely worth to do it. And then you can find local listings for ESPN, which the prelims are under the plug their true. I watch a lot not just my old fights that they can watch on the UC five thousand percent. This is different this PM plus not five as oh. Is it something about the UFC fight flip -pez? Now. I've said if you go to like, the UFC social media channels on Twitter, Instagram, whatever there's gonna be posts about how to sign up reappear seven a rough day other day why? Doesn't matter. But I so I watched the UC pass why a rough day at your washed my Frank Trigg fight. That's why you're having a rough day. Now having a rough day. So I watched the use. I wash my Frank Trigg fight. Maybe feel better it does. Right day of one that fight. He did wanna hear what my day that wires doesn't matter. I knew I felt better though. 'cause I watch like Frank Trigg fight. Did you rough day after I won that fight? Listen to me. I I heard that. There was a erection problems. Days. Rough. Just tell them what actually car payment late fire. Can I say I'm lying to Jimmy? I didn't have a rough day. I just wanted to bring up my Frank Trigg fight on on UFC. Okay. Such fight Jimmy. Thank you had him kissing the canvas did you? Yeah. There's a fight. I want to talk about that got announced that I'm a pretty excited about let's talk about. I think I know what let's easy over there machine gun Kelly. Let's talk about it. I listen, Derek. We hold on. I mean, listen people get knots, but. Now every time that are used this thing. Now, I'm not afraid to use it because I'm not very what people think if I'm using it too much every time I use it. He's going to go. There you go. It's using the perfect world. Yeah. It's a good amount to you. Gotta you gotta lead up. I mean, I was just gonna use it. But then it's like, it's okay have fun. Have that you don't like Krispies. Always usually looking at you like, okay. Like, you're an eager houseboy with a toy. Sure. Hit the. I'm not gonna do it again to read the fight. Derek Lewis the Black Beast verse. Julia now. Junior in a why do you? To those those. That's a great chain. DS? I daren't Louis the blood beast. Wow. That was right March ninth which which. What you could. Which which? Richard. What's? Kansas. I'm going going fucking have really interesting fight deals on the ground. T- match that's gonna be we're talking to Lewis on Monday. Why old man, what do you think about that shit JD as obviously has the cardio advantage the boxing vantage? I mean Louis I mean JD asking kick to be Lewis is actually better with his legs. And people think he's going to be throwing more kicks than than people would expect them to do for big, dude. And I'm sure he's be at least there's hard if not harder that's really tough to go against junior on that one. And especially after he's. Two. He's accurate, man. Accurate, and he's looking really tough foam lately. Man Louis coming off that second round with a second round loss to to DC. Yeah. That was a tough loss styles make fights, man. You know what? I mean, you know, junior took a few shots from title. It wasn't like he got through that totally clean or I don't know. I mean was I remember it was right junior finished him or something what they trying to punch up from mount or my Adam. That's not good. It's not a good sign of somebody's ju jitsu skill guys. Oh, secular. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. That that's rough though. Yeah. Jimmy, it is you know after pay. Do you have the page breaks? Good timing because I got a p to all right. You go first. We are back one thing. We should mention too much has not been officially seven the blue. But rose will defend her belt against Jessica on drudge those according to Dana white who is yes, he is an employee of the of C I understand who she is ranked number one over you ought to JJ who's been dropped down to number two. I guess after three straight losses now. Yes. The two rows. And then she just lost Valentina. But that was up close, obviously. But he is still a loss. And you wonder what does that do to join his psyche? If anything she was twelve am I wrong with twelve now, she's twelve and three. Yeah. I can check. I think you're right unless you had an loss earlier in her career now she was undefeated undefeated. And I wonder what these losses due because that first one was such a devastating loss. First round tap out due to strikes and the second one was very good. She said she was better trained, and she the way cut wasn't as bad. And they went the distance that you lost. She clearly lost as she clearly lost the sheets. She won the second one. Well, she might be somebody thought that are Lobski one twenty seven fucking thirty twenty seven over Walt Harris, she was fourteen and then she lost a rose twice. Then we forgot she BT Chautauqua is and then she lost three of four. But okay. Okay. So she did come back and have a win after did you teasha by decision? That was decision. Yes. She's not not anybody out. And I think that for fighters who are always winning or losing by decision at adds a lot around. Oh, for sure I mean, her knockouts came earlier. Against Jessica Panay, Carla spars owner I fight, but they were volume knockouts. You know, I it wasn't like she was just one punch knocking people out that size. It's a little tougher. But that's what's interesting about Jessica on drums who who has ridiculous power at one hundred fifteen pounds. She just knocked out the Carolina. What's what's her record? Let's double check. The. She is nineteen and six one three straight clogging daily, teasha tours and caroliina she knocked out with. Pretty devastating fashion. And what Jimmy exactly who do you think Amanda fights next? Oh, man, put up the where where am I I'm guessing calendar if she's hoping is defeat I wanna say she's nine an hour. My completely often which division we're talking about. Now now that she's a chill bantamweight. Now. She's a chance there's really nobody else's featherweight and the beating was so bad. You can't justify a rematch yet with looking right here. You had it on the road one. No, no. I just had I had scroll down. So you could see the rest of the she'd never fought Holly amend, Holly. She hasn't right? No. That could be that. That's number two. Germain matched up to Aspen lad, those. She has coming up. She's not Holly take again. That's an interesting holiday take because she's going down to fighting number seven. But why not hold out for cancer gun is already? On their Nghien. Megan she counted as Richie she's not a bantam, she fed away. So she's a feather weight. So we don't have the featherweight. There is no why is cat who what what the despite? It can't just fought up at feather. Yeah. But there are there isn't a featherweight rankings yet because the division hasn't been filled out or whatever this such. Alright just threw me off with let me see here. What's going to happen? And for MandA not a lot of people. I mean, Holly home is definitely that styles make fights. That's an interesting fight. Because you know, she would you know, I I mean, she's very skilled standing, and she's more of the matadors he's inches out. Just got the kicks. I mean, I, you know, I mean, she's got all that boxing experience. So she might not be there to get hit nothing that she got she took shots for much Jemaine mandatory. Yep. Well, engine means in that mix. He's writing one. Yeah. So what is that Keller's record by the while she is tenant attended? Okay. And she out for a long term. I don't think I'm reading here. She was supposed to fight on the twenty second of September. But she pulled out due to a knee injury. Like in August of. So I I would assume she. Four months ago. She's probably getting ready to fight again. Okay. Does she have anybody lined up and has she fought Holly outta hollies? Esta has she fought against you can't fight your main because that someone's gonna fight Amanda. Right. Well, I mean like like you're saying I mean Holly is definitely an interesting matchup against Amanda. But she's already matched up. Can't Lavera could be in the mix germane to renovated probably guy beat random over that just because calendar hasn't fought and the one that you say earlier we talked about dean Thomas he was on. Joe Rogan's podcast one. Is he going to be in here? He'll be on Thursdays show next week so Wednesday for. Cowboy come in. I think how I mean still trying to lock it down a particular time, but he would be on Thursday shows. Well, so he becoming almost so he becoming the same day as all right? Why? No more than Marya here usually comes in with a posse though. So does have some chance, you know? Don't you worry? We'll he'll say, hey, listen, man. My buddy Deane Tom is coming to town. I think every time I'm in charge cowboy how much he would love it. And how much I hate it. Herbal. It's like bad tire bills on a flight. I had the worst turbulence ever come back from Disney with my old, you up a little all you said that was it was it like it was bad dropping and. Yeah, it was like yo where the kids scared. No, they were, you know, looking at like a ride would thing. My wife was a little bug, but it was wrong. Yeah. It was bad. I don't usually I've I've been on a lot of planes, and is probably one of the worst have out everybody the whole night or just coming in everybody got quiet, and I was on the way back coming home. How how long how long was the turbulent? I listen on YouTube on like it was like twenty five minutes. I go on YouTube and turbulence videos, by the way, was the entire that house that it's fun. People scream. Yeah. It was socially twenty-five, thirty minutes when I was going into my gig in Seattle, I had to fly, you know, they come through Portland or whatever and an hour before like we're going to have the flight attendant sit seal like you have an hour of fucking bad Pacific northwest turbulence that was horrible to planes tilting. Yeah. But I've also saw diagram once on the outside of somebody drew a diagram didn't computer animation. This what you feel inside what it's just jostling shaking. And this is what it looks like outside and the planes hardly moving little mile ticks because they like the planes in sitting still it's actually going really fast. So it's just kind of skipping over things. But it's not falling. Don't get worry Jimmy about little turbulence. I don't like it. I watch those videos and Fokin driving everywhere when they realize it's fine because everybody's landed. Yeah. Well, right. I mean, if it's. Washes up crash fresh videos. No one ever crashes because his don't Braley some turbulence before the crash. You didn't see the crash? All right. Listen, this is a fucking tomorrow. Do you really Phoenix on this Phoenix and catch tonight? Actually, I'm going to be in Copperhead blues and then tomorrow friends. Saturday's the stand up live. Yeah. Jimmy in Phoenix. Club out their new material. What are you going to hours? Not what I had on Netflix show. So I'm just kind of is is trying to do stuff so much fun. You read it on a daily just daily. I just try stuff on stage. Yeah. Of course, the art Kelly documentary, you gotta talk about whatever's wife is why my wife is just just watching that. And just wants the just smash that dude on a smack that guy to admittedly. I'm a new fan, but he's terrible person. It's amazing guys out walking around. It's he's a terrible fucking person. You know, Jimmy, what is the case? That's brought up in that documentary. 'cause there's a lot of stuff read about them. He's besides the -pedia, which we all saw all these artists that worked with him after knew that he did that. And they knew how young girl was. Is all you know, the whole idea of the cult. He had these women and as an adult you gotta make decision. But when you see the way treats these women they had buckets in the rooms to use bathrooms. I mean, it was really fucking horrible. It's crazy piece of shit. But that's just so negative. Let's look at some positive stuff. Jimmy what he wants about my five one other of the. What are the road? You have gossip a rumors or news. We have Christopher Anthony Smith was talking about his potential UFC two thirty five title shot against John Jones. I say potential because John still has to be licensed by Nevada State Athletic commission. But that's the fight. They're trying to put together he says, I think it's goddamn mazing. All these people are suing that if me and John Jones fight he's gonna get me out of there in one round. He doesn't hit any harder than whose demure and Hector Lombard. He's not any better of a wrestler for the most part of guys that I fought and he's not any better jitsu guy than all the guys. I fought he puts together better than anyone that's in the game right now. But he doesn't. Wow, me anywhere, especially the fight that just had. I wasn't impressed. And I don't mean it wasn't a fantastic performance. Because it was but I didn't watch the fight and thing I couldn't handle that. I saw guy that has holes that can be exploited as long as you attack it in the right way. What's he gonna say? Well, but it's just a killer something that he was on the the UFC tonight as a guest analyst. And he was like, what are you? What are you talking to me? John Jones, like eight don't use this as a platform to. This is my moment. Type of thing. Don't be using this as a platform to better your career type. I think something like that, you know. Show after two thirty to play the clip Chris. All right. All right. You had it ready? No, no. All right. Who said it to him? But it is. Well, John Jones entities. Who me? He's like, he's a nice guy. I don't think he was. I think he was just, you know, maybe a little nervous of being an analyst and those guys coming out of what the funk, but hey, man, I wanna see that fight. I watched that fight. I watched the fight tomorrow. I would too. I mean, he's a well rounded guy, he's fighting better. Now that he's up this week Klis and. You know, listen, this is the sport of upsets, he's got a skill set on them very much on Jones. Where do you think the problem is if you're John Jones, what do you got power coming out? And but like what what's the what is the thing that have these Smith is going to do to put John in trouble over the course of that fight if you had to well, I think it would. It would have to be on his feet. I can't see him taking him down and having his way with him. Because I think his his grappling is too strong. I could see I could see John Jones, you know, using his his wrestling than than his ground game from here on out, right hurting, a lot of people, Iran. I mean, I think that's the why take a chance when this guy's in this, you know, he's swinging with a lot of dangerous guys and he's battling. And you know, he's gonna nickname Wyan heart. I mean, you don't get that by not being a fucking. Plus it you get that writing a chicken liver. Correct. Chivvy? You know when John was out for a while. I think it was when he got suspended the first time, whatever was he I interviewed and he was talking about he was doing a lot of ju jitsu and one of his goals was to never be punched. Again, he wanted to get to the point where he was so good at his grappling gypsy that nobody could ever land another punch on him. And it's interesting you're saying that like, I think you're right. I think the wrestling and the the grappling is going to become a bigger part of his career as he goes forward. I mean heating smoke. I mean, he did. I mean, he handled the fight everywhere. It was but he really smoked you know, his Guston on the floor. I mean smoke them. They got the floor on that list when settled twenty seconds. So, you know, standing up it was still, you know, he might hurt his leg, and it will go and he's having his way. But it's not like he was put it autumn. And he got on top. It's just a matter of not even minutes. I mean, he's he's advances position and was dangerous. All how so listen, man. I think. What we're going to see a lot of his face taking place. Now. You know what? I mean. Yeah. For sure how can we wanna call TJ? It's you know, what? Let's call right now, we should call. I should call and people dig that, you know, I handled that room and all I can say is people. Listen. Amen. Matt handles it. How not handling I don't matter. I'm just I'm just a human being man. You know, I try to get time with Jimmy so much cereal. And I get upset. It's not his fault. I think he's manager. She talked to or what's his name. Who's the new guy Kristal Kristof night think it was just a miscommunication? My well, then you know, that means it's Krista produces full. He's let's just throw it got TJ right here. TJ? Hey, buddy, you're talking to Jim and Matt from UFC, unfiltered, TJ your first of all you guys a big appalled that don't save. Like, I was told I guess last week does doing an interview and even though by forgot practice times change, and I messed up. So I was seriously running in the door for practice late and I hate being late. So no from we'll listen, it's not like you out of a fight to get ready for anything. You know what I mean? I want to apologize. I've been getting attacked by all your fans because after hung up. I'm like, oh, boo. TJ freaking out and say like that. But I would have said worse. I was being I was I was being a little bit. You know, what the word is that I would use and you wouldn't 'cause you're too classy. I was being a little bitty. But TJ listen to me, man. Understandable. I it's not your fault kid. We we really we're big fans man, we really all. Why can't handle it? Very well Jimmy professional Christopher do, sir. And I'm not listen. I'm just not a professional, but I am a fan of your fighting. Fire fighters because we're emotional. It is true. It is true. And I can't control it. It's true. And and how is the camp going what I do. I did say the other day that I do enjoy watching on Instagram. Whether it's the Wayne's or your Instagram, you all the techniques, you guys are doing just the work and the and then you do the little bow afterwards. The little bro hug in bow. Putting out is the Wayne's mind is is very unique. How does he always it seems like he always keeps it fresh? Right. It doesn't turn it off. He's addicted to me better as insults. Have just guiding people through this journey the cranial actually recall martial-arts, but. Night of him watching tape and took link I should be doing maybe watching my sparring or just a game planning or told me what train special train with you knows Dwayne his it. He tried to get me trim with other like boxing coaches with parole for now Palm Springs with with a camp out there. And and just he wants me to bride Mahr broaden, my horizon, knowledge, we other coaches, you find a lot of coaches that they kinda wanna keep your shelter and hold you in and not let you travel in terms of someone else 'cause they're afraid, but do I ever very close connection, man? And this when nothing magic, and you are finally getting this fight that you have been asking for for a long time, not with the fighter you've been asking. I mean, you you were asking for Dimitrius for a long time. And at one point Limbaugh was gonna happen. And how did you feel when you found out? He was traded for Ben aspirin. No little little unfortunate to to have a guy of that caliber leave our organization, you know, 'cause the US's best organization the best of promoting. It's the it's the who's who fighting. But you know, it sounds like you made a great decision for his family and his finance finances. And I'm sure he'll be very happy. I know about humans coach has a great connection with thinking might be part owner matchmaker. Whatever it may be. So I think it'd be very good for him. But, you know, little little sucky because we love to see him into UC because we're the best. Do you think he dropped the ball with that? I was very excited when you guys we're gonna fight. And I know we're sick of talking about this. I don't wanna I don't wanna bring up old share. But but it's just I was so on I heard that. And I'm like, yo that's a fight. I mean, a lot of people could be invested in because that was you going down, and especially with your performances and and. And and just Dimitrius looking just indestructible. And then when he didn't take that fight. It was just such a it was just I was so down. I'm sure as of you were as you were. Yeah. He definitely dropped the ball out have been the biggest fight for his career and trying to his name. But unfortunately, choose a little more scared about losing his legacy. And then then then take a pseudo theories enough and let him come on in push the pace on her. You know, but. We live in there. And now, I get to beat up pseudo. Instead now you had commented to that. They were paying you to kind of go down, and whatever you said about the flyweight division. Do you think they are actually gearing up to get rid of that? I do I do I do think that I mean getting rid of the meteors Johnson. You know, you're the best fighter of the of the division. The guy it's been making statements down there. And you're trading him. They cut fighters been they've only lost. Once I think that it's a way of Wendling it out if on the channels way cost delays, why not make them all come to thirty five which we have a national pact way class. How do you? How is your wake-up because you had put a video? I'm sure you saw that some of the fans were saying, oh, we looked tired. Even though you just said good morning, which meant you probably just woke up was the first thing. I did was I woke up when you do your your hormone tests and your blood tests, you have to do it is weight go you can't eat or drink anything ever gone. Dr do your hormones. You have to be first thing in the morning. So, you know, seven o'clock in the morning, you wake up rubbing, my eyes video, you know. But I don't mind people thinking that the way cuts hard because it's been I mean, obviously. It's not gonna be easy. That's gonna be a lot of work, but it hasn't been hard. And that's because I have the coach I have and I'm professional land. I'm actually waking up right now closer to wait. Then I would be at one thirty five waking up this far out then those because I've had to this because it had to be so serious about it to you know, like when I'm fighting thirty five I'm like, whatever I'll eat much that want do what I want kind of thing. I still stick to a good diet, but I can eat lay don't do intermittent fasting wink do fast low base at onto. I don't have to be strict. And so me being a strict the happened the last twelve weeks, I'm closer, wait. Now when I wake up then I would be at one thirty five. So this might be a less painful cut in the very at the end of it. Then it would have been at one thirty five. Not. I mean in price still gonna suck. You know? It's definitely don't get me wrong. But yeah, I mean, the handling very professional. I bet I make us and Sudas. What is it that motivates you to do this? Because and how do you think it will affect you? Because he's fighting in his natural weight, and you are cutting ten pounds. What does the motivate? You do that is just the idea of being a two belt champion. That and my legacy, you know, being to build champion continue to do. I believe the greatest fighter right now. I believe I'm the best. And which way to prove it to show it, you know, onto twenty five I go to forty five I could do all man, and I really just wanted to show. My legacy improved on the greatest fighter out there. And sure everyone how professional him and looks who to call me out the fight. You know, I think it's a big hyped of fight. And I'm excited about it. The great one Ray, we built my name. And I'll go out there not wrestling and snatched that gold medal ought to. I wanted to Sam Calvi your conditioning your coach he's trying to condition code. You've said that he is a genius. And what what is he doing? That is so good for you. Many is he's I mean, if you sit down it takes like years kinda understand what he's talking about. They kinda goes over your head when you sit down and talk to him. But if he's always into every molecule and everything's going on in your body. He's tracking. Hurry, when I'm sleeping you make every meal. I eat. He he's got every strenuously plan. Dow we have my logo as pain Dow he knows what what like every Sunday. We've had a go like that week. I need to wake up at a certain weight. And when I reached that he comes off the checklist Dumai via to max, my hair analysis, my home on testing my Megan three Megan fixes and just kind of making sure that my body's in homies stations at all times and running smoothly and and not cutting any corners. I mean, the guy he I've met him now for two two years ago now, and it's crazy what my body is done and the things that I that have been able to change in strong. I'm. Everything's lying. But I'm actually throwing more weight right now than it was my last cancel and thirty five, you know, my my my cleaned presses is throwing more weight on stronger in light or some strength weight ratio is gone up. Which is unheard of you know, but I've just up to the program. I haven't haven't faltered in continuously game. So I'm all in with Vida. You know of the training. He's he the straight of genius. What is low base you said that a couple time. What does that mean? Also, my little base is like a a workout that. I do. It's easy keeps your heart rate at a certain level. So for me, a low base would be so wanted your view to max and your Armar which tells you what your body burning fats carbs 'cause you wanna be more of a fat burning machine than car burning machine 'cause unit better cardio and producing gas at all that stuff. There's a certain heart rate, I need to keep my body under. And that's when I do. I'm wanting runs is I consider that my logo. It's low based training. I'm running out of certain heart rate keeping under over a certain hot raybird under another one. So I'm not I'm not running hard oil. I mean now it's harder because I'm in such good shape in my heart rate has to had to push harder to get it higher. But you know, when you first start out, it's like an easy job. You're able to hold a conversation while doing it. But you do it for an hour thing, you know. So that you just have your body start burning fats rather than burning cards, and yeah, I mean, just hopes you shed, the weight, and that's what you do. First thing in the morning. Every morning. It's all period, period. Sorry came talk period. I it's all scheduled out. You know, like, I I know exactly what days I'm doing on that doing it every day. 'cause you know, I don't wanna do before sparring. You know, one of the news, I wanna come into spying. I wanna feel good. So maybe I sleep in the longer sparring days, or my certain issue days gonna be on super hard. So I don't want to add any more stress load to the body. And so it's all done at a certain time. But yeah, I do that socialist camp quite often. Let me as you thoughts on I feel bad for the poor guy. But but Dominick Cruz suffering another long-term injury. What are you man? It's crazy. That's kind of a bummer. No. I mean because nothing nothing. I would love to see you guys go at it again. I know that was a very very close that was a close fight. And it was a you're a competitive person to say, the least, and I would you have. I mean, that's something you really want to avenge. I know you feel you should've got the nod. And it was definitely I definitely know. I should have got the nod. But yeah, something that I've wanted to get back when you know. But it's crazy, man. The guy has I mean, what you got like two fights in the last like eight years who knows these crazy that he can't stay healthy. And that his body's just falling apart wasn't meant to fight. Maybe who's been to talk. You know, maybe to have that chip on his shoulder and sit behind the desk because he cannot stay healthy, man. Yes, I'm guys. They really do. I love though, with the the the three the three of them like it's like TJ. Then you've got Dom, of course. And then Cody all different like TJ such a nice, dude. But yet he has nice little rivalries with these guys that with themselves. Well, Dominic definitely is an opinionated, dude cody's. But it's funny, and I don't have anything personal used either to just something that happens to be fought each other. He got under my skin. And job of it the mental warfare, you know, 'cause I've never had a problem with guy. I've done commercialism. I've been around him. He's like I got no problem with him. But then he starts like nagging at you like, all right. You know, and then cody's made it personal. He came at me. So that was just, you know, the these rivalries kinda foul me. And that's what happens when you perform at the highest levels and have cameras on your on you twenty four seven, you know, you're gonna you're gonna you're gonna see differences. Have you seen Cody at all interacted with him at all says less fight? No, I haven't. No, I haven't really seen much of him or or seen him personally. No before we let you go to ask you about the poster they use it. Interesting photo of you for the for the now did you make that face? Do they grab an old photo? Or did that happen? What we're going to go with this one. Well, they created the poster I mean, I think I remember taking that photo. And it's kinda like thing I might have been during the ultimate fighter kind of with Kodiak chain. Like this guy. You know, what I mean like put a smirk on my face and front of my thumb at this guy like was this guy up to, but I feel like I've kinda handled this situation in kind of way. Like, I I'm very confident I'm gonna coming. In their run through pseudo. And obviously I'm respecting who he is. He's a great athlete and everything. But look man, I'm confident I know that I'm the better fighter, and I'm gonna get out there and put it on him. So I think that that's what I've protrayed a little bit love it or hate it kind of thing, you know, on that really to about it everyone agrees. I think you're one of the hardest guys to prepare for because you fighting so unorthodox it's impossible to figure out what you're gonna throw from second to second year at extremely difficult guy. I think for anyone to get ready for appreciate him in. That's usually the plan. You know, we try to mix it up as well as I mean, this sport. And then the name was crazy menus Bill be like a boxer kickboxer Jichi fighter or, you know, wrestler coming in and do in do well and get to the top. But not anymore. Man. You have to you have to train ima main as the sport is a whole, you know, and keeping someone guessing is sport. You have no idea what I'm gonna do win. I'm gonna do it. And that's why I keep saying that when out wrestled does because I'm able. I Mabel to keep him guessing I'm gonna rest, I my Bill the wrestle with them. You know? So I'm gonna be everywhere. Welcome winning the sport of him a man. Yeah. You are. I mean, I have to pick TJ too. I mean, I think who does a great fighter. But I think that you're just I think you're gonna be too much for them. Fighting pseudo. It's obviously the main event January the nineteenth from Brooklyn and good luck band. I one of my favorite guys to watch. Yeah. TJ in my bed on the other thing. I was being a little bitchy. Don't worry about it. But I got on the phone. Gotta God off an interview I'm running dealer that was that was on that too. 'cause I was told about it. I guess week in advance. But you know, how practice changes, and I carry my styles of media. You get a call it. I thought it was the New York athletic commissions. It's a New York number. You know? I would do medical day all this stuff. And I was like what I hear you. Listen day before I showed a memory of a goldfish. Thanks so much champ. Take him and good luck. EJ? Of course hats wanted to give a big shot on my website dot com. And for looking to take my online courses to fit the fight. I'm showing all those techniques. You guys talk about winning go over. I have my I have my own all my course, where I'm showing techniques talking about how to be confusing to show different techniques and keep your opponent guessing. But it's fit to fight. You're not only learn how to do some martial arts jujitsu wrestling striking. But you'll also also pair them with strengthening workout that will make you better at that technique, so beginning shape, and you learn how to fight it's it's been released now for a week, and it's done wonderful and everyone's loving it. So I wanted to give that a big shot was there. I appreciate what's TJ dillashaw dot com where it's at but it's called fit to fight. Awesome. So. Sounds. Thank you, buddy. I really appreciate it. I'm thank you start to get kid, bro. Later, it listened today was about new beginnings. Okay. I feel better. I am not a negative. I'm I'm a happy person. I'm not a negative person. Happy happy special. Lad, don't call me. I decided I did you preempted struck myself. But listen to me, I'm so happy that we're friends again. I am to acquaint. It was never it was never a problem. When this I people are attack any maybe I get a little emotional. But isn't that while you love people, isn't it? Of course, you know. I appreciate it Alexander Hernandez TJ dillashaw Jimmy does hurt with feeling. Jay, right. I was simple. Boy, a good friend. You are. All right. Jimmy. I listen everybody. You gotta plug anything. I'm gonna be in Phoenix tonight tomorrow Saturday, and then next week is West Palm Beach the eighteenth and nineteenth. And then I have nothing else. I'm working on a project. I'm going to getting my legs. This little oh, you working on a project. Jimmy. I'll tell you about a. Wow, that's wow. Accusing suspends me. I'm getting my get my sapping it out of me, a my knee, and I'll be looking around week people. But toll fucker beaks Comores. Sure do good. Bye. Bye. All right. Never member. 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Ep. 3,028: Differences in promotion of Boxing Vs MMA, Henry Cejudos insensitive comments, Valentina possibly taking Miesha Tates spot on the womans Mount Rushmore, more.

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Ep. 3,028: Differences in promotion of Boxing Vs MMA, Henry Cejudos insensitive comments, Valentina possibly taking Miesha Tates spot on the womans Mount Rushmore, more.

"Title Roll Baby on May Junkie Radio with Gorgeous George and this is what we do in why we do it baby. We're covering MMA from all over the world this is the premier stop for all your combat sports needs MMA junkie radio from the Mandalay Bay resort and Casino in the fight capital of the world. Las Vegas Nevada. The lights are on and the MIC. Sir Hot it's tied to get your. Ma Fixed Junkies take it away. Big John Gorgeous George goes. Are you ready? Junkie from the capital of the world inside the beautiful Mandalay Bay racing sports book you're listening to another episode of the Ma Junkie Radio. Show the only show that matters. I'm your host gorgeous. George with always devious. Industry goes our east coast. What's up goes up. Not much man. It's fight week except it's a week in a different way so I know I know there's going on two of them is a matter of fact we'll talk about them plus there's a UFC card out in Auckland New Zealand the opposite side of the planet. So yeah in that regard. It's finally here in Vegas. It's a major major fight week in fact you can hear the TV's Everybody's talking about Tyson Fury. Deontay wilder goes. This is a big one in boxing to win. It's an old school field anytime anytime. You have a big boxing event Vegas. It's really cool but when they're heavyweight even cooler yeah and finally they got things going yesterday with You know not now could hear knock a field. The buzz a little bit in town couple shoves manufactured shows. I think they could have done a little bit better. What the shoving you know These guys got in each other's faces and of course you and I are fresh to this because we saw theory doing this for. Wwe recently and so that's why S convinced you know what I mean and the bronze bomber ran he he. He doesn't look like the guy that would be up for antics. You know But but but he seemed to be as well and whatever you know the common folk they see something like that and they get pumped up but you and I are pumped up about this boxing match. I'm fired up and now it's GonNa be a really good one. Yeah so listen. We'LL CHIME IN ON. That will chime in on to belt or cards And of course the AFC we got felder versus hooker as your main event so obviously got to spend a little bit of time on that and of course the news nuggets. You know the News Nuggets. Eh May never fails. There's some good stuff with like a title bout that's been booked and of course some of that. Tmz drama stuff that'll GD likes buckle up in two thousand eight a former D. One football star pulled off a robbery so daring and so strange that it went viral worldwide. It was a perfect crime story. There's just one problem. It wasn't the real story of what happened. The sneak is a new serialized. True crime podcast from four the wind and USA Today Sports. You can subscribe now on Apple podcasts or get it anywhere you get podcasts on Tuesday January fourteenth. All right. Let's do this. Let's go boxing fast. Deontay Wilder Tyson fury view. This you know if not for the if not for MMA this would be so much bigger because you have an American heavyweight. Boxing has a rich history when an American heavyweight is at the top is a world champion. Of course the UK has delivered some champions. It's it's like it has to be that way when Lennox Lewis was at the top. That was fun too. But you have a great British heavyweight against the Great American heavyweight. Both guys can talk. The first fight did not suck for sure This one this is a one man and again if the younger audience didn't have twenty six twenty seven years of Ma that pulls them in different directions and even other combat sports or just gaming or the Internet. I mean everyone would be Sitting down with their POPs POPs uncles watching this boxing match on Saturday night. Yeah it's I mean it's kind of unfortunate because we grew up in different areas. This would be really really cool to us but The new generation part of it. I can't blame them. There's just really like at the end of that fight. So what you know. I guess to so many titles out there that people get confused. Well wait a minute. How could they before heavyweight champions or you know when guys don't unify titles or they give up titles what happens from here? Most people can't even name who the next Guy Online would be right so in a way I sort of blame. Boxing of feels like they're just kind of out there for the moment and then they just kind of forget about things nope storyline or nothing as you see an ma in general immune belt or PF. L. There's a storyline next week. You already moving towards a new card and new fires and so. It's kind of boxing's fault. But Hey when it comes that heavyweights. It doesn't matter if they can put together too big heavyweights. It's GONNA be a big deal in Las Vegas and across the country. I just remember sporting events took place you just had the calendar in your head. You know I remember when the Olympics would come every four years. Ma'am for two weeks. You just send front of your TV. You know after dinner and watched whatever you could And then when it was over with over you know you moved on to something else. Same thing you could. Deontay wilder versus Tyson. Fury is something you talked about three months. Maybe even six until it finally happened but nowadays I mean stuff's just like boom boom boom this that you get pulled in so many directions and and again another thing i. I guess what? I'm stressing young fans Ami fans is. You didn't have the temptation to become a boxing fan. You never know you might be. A Boxing Fan. Had ever may not existed. You see what I'm saying. So boxing might be too soft for you honestly but give it a shot folks. It's GonNa be a great for the first one was great three times. Yeah the first one was rate and this one's going to be great so if you've ever been on the fence about boxing you know. Hey tell trust me. The knockout power is going to be there And there's GonNa be celebs in the it's going to be a big thing so maybe call a buddy or two and Have some friends over and and make it a boxing boxing night. All right folks. Enough of that Moving on here. I teased a well. Yes good news nuggets first. I teased a fight. That's already been made Valentina Shaneco she staying busy goes versus. Joe Joe Calderwood at UFC. Two fifty one talk about that match. You know what? It's it's kind of funny when you think about Valentina. Actually it's amazing. The pace that that girl keeps you know. She's fighting the best of the best that that are available to her and I almost sit back and wonder like what is it for because really when you think about me. She's got the title I think just to get back to Amanda Unit. Eventually right I mean. It's the only thing that really makes sense for her. I'm Jay what Amanda Nunez is doing so so you start to pressure them a little bit. So a man in his has five title defenses Valentina show has three but or maybe Valentine's John Jones you know they. They were taking champ champ pictures you know and and maybe she's like thinking wow. I want to do what that guy. Did you know what I mean? He's at eleven title defenses. I I want to get to those numbers you know when you talk about like Josie although seven title defenses. I believe Gsp had nine. Anderson Silva had ten Dmitri Johnson at eleven John Jones now has eleven in thinking about those names. I just listed those are lands and you know what I mean not dispute. Those names alleged. What do what do you think? The final Hell no I mean. Those are automatic hall of famers right there. Maybe that's the company she wants to keep you know and she figures look. I'm sacrifices like you really see her. You see you're doing like a bikini shot here and they're dancing shot here and there being a significant other. I know probably eventually should probably want to get to know if she doesn't have a boyfriend a boyfriend or husband and kids you never know. And she's got her health she staying busy. She's already seen a lot of the world. She does a good job of training while seeing a lot of the world. She's doing right. What she's not doing is sitting on our ass at home wasting time like a lot of us. Do I think what If she hasn't done it already really under everybody's is she's probably taken that four. Mount Rushmore Spot. Right in women that we. Kinda if you go by greatness. Yeah we believe. She knocked out a mistake right from their exactly. Yeah I WANNA go real quick Cyborg Rhonda. Amanda shouldn't go. Yeah unless you give that Gina Carano spot. I've always said this. If you give Gina Chronic spot the same thing. Have you ever seen? She's more of the Pie. Mailing hoist exactly when people go. What's your mail? Mount Rushmore people? Go with voice and yeah. I don't disagree with them. You know I'M I. I kinda sometimes want to go come on like he was there But come on the. Dsp Jones is going to limit. You know when you start going through that list but a hoist was undefeated in the UC goes be. He was doing some of that crazy. Shit where he fought three times in one night four times in one night and no way classes. I think entity so that was remain. Easy Shit that hoisted And so it's not the creepy. I mean then then he goes to Japan and you know then he had a one. Pd episode so you start to go there a nonprofit that there but if you just go pioneer but really dive into some of the things he did you know like that that was. That was pretty amazing. He's Mount Rushmore of No-holds-barred What I think we're all talking about now. Is the sport that came from that. Mixed martial arts is Gina Carano a voice Gracie of women's over my which the one loss in the sense of building a sport helping to do that. I would say yeah but really when you think about careers. I think Ronda is kind of similar to that. Rhonda was just far and above everybody else at the time and little by little people caught up in it. Kind of reminds me what happened with Heus. Okay all right How about all this stuff going down with a James Krause Man I feel for that guy so he's furious with Joe Sali's a judge that we talked about after you've seen to forty seven because of some questionable scorecards that came out You know of course Dominick Cruz. And Joe Rogan. Set The table. You know where they started mentioning a judge that might not even be paying attention that was one narrative and other one was These are boxing judges boxing commission. You know Blah Blah Blah there's But but but anyway towards the end of night we get the score of Dominic Reyes losing four rounds to one. That was Joe. Sali's James Krause. He was given. He lost a split decision. And what made a difference was Joselito Card He gave Giles is opponent the row the first round in which James Krause I wanNA say. Most people gave it to my rewatch that around on purpose a few times and I mentioned that the first forty five seconds. Giles got so strikes off Not the type or the other guy was wobbled. Oh my God is he gonNa fall down nothing like that? But then James Crowns got him. Not only did he get down. He had them in a dominant position. Rotem threatened the submission for about I guess with fifteen minutes. Left in the first Minute all the way through with about forty five seconds left in the last minute so that would be about a total of three minutes and thirty seconds and then Giles was able to get out Ground and pound a little bit then they got to their feet and they still exchange some strikes. James Krause also landed in the I remember. I didn't see anything that Giles. Stand up overcame. Krause's dominance on the ground is my point so that was another car that the Sali's Trenton. And then there was a one earlier in the night. I forget which one it involved but It was one. Where you'll you'll you'll fight where we felt like he hadn't won all three rounds but regardless now we find out goes that this judge received his black belt in Brazilian. Jiu Too by the way tip of the hat to them. he and we've established that he's lifelong martial. Artists has been been doing from Mars from age four. So that's the defense of. Hey that's not. Just the boxing judge. Don't just spouting out announcers you know what I mean But the black belt came from Giles's coach so there's too close of a connection there A conflict of interest if you will and so now that's the whole also though another another narrative we need better judges of course every once in a while you here. We need more fighters to become judges. And I've never been convinced that that's the answer. I don't think it's a bad thing but remember there's to be certain ties. From fighters to participants that will take years to separate from so a lot of fighters were to be very honest about their background. And everyone they've trained. They would have to look at a card and see what the lineages like family tree to to make. Sure that there's not that type of connection where their their morality can be questioned. This is the exact scenario. Been talking about for years and it's one and it kind of reminds me of the old days like old team punishment days when they would just take pictures and then you would go wait a minute. I didn't know that guy train there or whatever that gonna Marlon and Tito Ortiz. And you go. Oh my God. We daydream again. There wasn't that guy a judge on that guys fight that just all it takes is one little thing like that to possibly ruin a fight for people and I just think it's slippery slippery slope and I don't blame James Crossfield that way. Yeah you might have a case you never know because again the what he's throwing out there is. I mean it's it's an opinion here. I think one run on. But it's an opinion held by a lot of people in the missions. Rarely rarely turn things over but this is one that that he has not only the the footage. Hey look I believe one around but now they have that that conflict of interest. Now I'm not going to get I I can show you. Parley goes that went four and five four out of five or. I'm not going to get it back and I I think it was eight hundred eleven hundred. I can't remember That I would have won if krause once trust me. I would be sitting front row at the appeal if he needed a witness. I'd go I would love to stand in. Share my expertise on how this round was judged if my my book was to tell me. Cheryl pay you. Know if you can have that case overturn but I don't think it's GONNA happen. It's so unfortunate. Because in a court of law when they're picking out jurors and all that they go so far out of their way to make sure there's no conflict of interest. Oh yeah for them to just turn around and say in this case we don't care just kind of it does suck man. Yeah exactly hey let me tell you really quick stories. Well not stories but I I wanna just tell the audience just how this works frank trigg good friend of ours who you and I did a show with. We did enemy junk radio with Frank trigg for two years when it was called tag radio and a little bit of a Marine Junkie Radio from two thousand seven to two thousand nine. Frank trigg then went on to do you know. He works in the stunt world and does a few other things but he added actually got himself. Certified as a trainer sees me as a referee n Judd. You see them mostly as a referee but he can judge Frank. Trigg would probably not be able to Referee or judge a fight involving Brad. Vars or gray maynard to vars has been an extreme couture for about ten years manners. Been there probably about twelve years. That bleeds over. Into the time. We're frank trigg was finishing up his career. You know remember you still going to the UK still did a couple of fights in Hawaii goes back. That couldn't happen now. He might be able to referee Keith. Lease fight or Max Arash cough site or somebody like that vitas maybe Yemen. He's been about five years extreme married and he moved to Vegas so he might be able to do that. He might. He might but up until about three years ago. I think Frank trigg still had a locker. You know. They're so I don't know I think if I know. Frank he probably go. You know what I'm just going to recuse myself. I step back from this heart exactly. There's always extra judges and referees there. You just have to be informed. And I'll tell you another quick story. You remember a back in the Monte Cox Days. The before the call was the Ability seizes there was two powerbrokers managers miles but two of them. That name that had a lot of the roster one was can pop you Can then moved on after. He sold his boutique to audio tar. But so when he did that he was still staying in the game and he was hoping he was called Super League in India. You remember those guys. Yeah and He he told me one time he goes. Hey Buddy he goes. I need you to fly to India and be a judge And I was like really he goes. Yeah for Supervi- League. I was excited because I thought it'd be a good experience to see what it's like and I just think it would be great that I could add to the show and say man. It was great. It's pressure pressure cooker or something and do it until I looked. I had to discuss it with our Editor in chief at the time and he recommended I not do it and he was actually very strongly opposed to doing it but I guess He Kinda. I can't stop you And then I looked at the card goes and I remember Todd Duffey was on it and Todd Duffey I believe was kind of a frequent guy on our show. He was living in Vegas. And I think I just talked about having lunch with them at a Mexican restaurant that I ran into warm and then I was thinking not only would it be not good but what if I actually had to call a close round for the other guy and what about. Just todd probably may be giving me the really bro. Look you know what I mean like. It was so many ways in which it was Tang. It was tangled up in which I couldn't it would not been worth and I'll tell you right now. They're going to be fifteen hundred bucks and obviously the flight up and back in the hotel and so I wonder if a nice it would have been nice experience. India your few days And just judge and hopefully there was knockouts and I wouldn't have to worry about it or hopefully it was just unanimous decisions but I really would have wanted to do it just to see what it's like Now that's a great example. Yeah Anyway How about Henry so Hudo in Karyn Bryant and Algebra Sterling? That's some of the teams east of that now. I guess that's That's something I didn't necessarily want to see. But what did you think of all at Karen? Brian Basically Chiding Henry pseudo for calling alginate sterling on Al Jemima which is kind of a reference to aunt Jemima which in my generation I knew as simply as a syrup but in the last twenty years not I people have basically stated that this is more That it's racially insensitive And and I was honest with goes and Richard Hunter from another show that we do. I was honest and told them I did not know that but apparently goes you did. Yeah I did because Somebody else kind of felt for that. Within the last couple of years I wasn't in the sport it was in another one It just it really sucks man that at this at this level especially a champion. How man I I mean I'm me. I'm an idiot and I still probably read my tweets before I put them out a few times especially if I have any inclination that they could be somewhat bad. I still Kinda go through that process of just shocks me. That guy's right things and just hits them like that and then I'm glad that it all worked out and it seems like everybody's okay We haven't heard any right. We haven't heard anything from the UFC but the thing is I'm glad it didn't pick up too much steam in just the regular media. 'cause our sports been kinda taken a hit and we don't need more of this and I sort of wish that that whole thing was done under the table. You know a phone call rather than than a tweet Especially if it's someone you care about you pick up the phone and you go. Hey man you shouldn't have done this you should like. I'm not going to reveal names but we kinda had an incident somewhat similar where we had to tell a fighter. Can't use that word. I can't do this or can't do that. We didn't tweet it out or anything like that. Like you just kind of do things under the table because you wanNA protect that integrity of the sport. You don't want people to get a bad reaction because of one bonehead one person that did something dumb because everybody else goes down with the ship. Karen stated that she wasn't offended she has skin. She likes Henry but she wanted to let him know that what he was saying was racially insensitive I the Henry honestly was just trying to work out. Jamie into kind of like If you're a guy named Daniel and go look at Dan Yellow. They're scared little bitch or something. I I basically feminism your name with Algebra. I guess you could call them Algebra Lena but I think he thought he that's close to aunt Jemima so mccomb Alabama but I don't think Henry I mean he's younger than I am so he may know what you know that I didn't know But he doesn't strike me as as a type of guy where like hey brown over black or brown over everything or or anything like that. He just moved. And you're right goes. I think this could have been swept under the rug and in a different way with the teachable moment and that's that But without without people having announced question like do you think racially insensitive. You know what I mean. Yeah but that being said had that not happened. You wouldn't have been educated on the subject that I'm sure. A lot of other people wouldn't have been as ruled subjects I guess it does serve its purposes but Yeah just sucks man. I'm I'm looking at Stephen. A Smith space and just thinking of like just the bad press that he's been getting here and they're bad decisions. Geyser Quinton like we just don't eat more steps stuff. Yeah you're right All right so what? I didn't I don't know if I finished okay. One thing though going back to Valentine versus Georgia I did look and I'm trying to find word. Ufc Two fifty one by the way for anybody. That's wondering we know to forty nine. Is the one in Brooklyn with Habib Antoni Ferguson? We know that. Two fifty the rumored with one with Henry who and Josie Aldo in Sao Paulo Brazil. In early May. I know that I think it's June. Sixth is to fifty one. And there was a rumor. A possible rumor of Max Holloway rematch versus Alexander Volkov Sqi. That's the card that it could be the same one that has bouncing SHANECO versus Joe Joe Calderwood. However we don't know the location and we don't know that Max and Alex are there yet whereas we're now kind of hearing pretty official announcement o Valentin jo-jo Dino White was the one that confirmed that the that other rematch was going to possibly take place and it could happen in June. So we're filling in the pieces and of course the following month is international. Fight Week which leads me to maximum international. Fight Week little segue there he suggested. Ufc version of the NBA all star weekend for International Fight. Week and what I think he was. Referencing was well. We already fights. That's the All Star game The only thing I can think of is he must have meant those skills challenge dunk contest three three point concert the night before when they have that type of competition goes maybe he's thinking what could fighters do then and I was thinking okay. The used to have a a rookie versus sophomore game. We can't really do that. Because that's a fight they could maybe bring back a couple of legends and just have a legend fight and just maybe make it less than a maybe tough enough around amateur and just two minutes instead of five or or three minutes instead of five or something like that and just maybe see some old legends. Maybe Settle Abi for score They could do grappling quintet which we saw recently before. Ufc Two forty five here vegas however got to remind everybody co Swanson tors ACL. Even though it was seen pride and you have. C and W E C and strikeforce and that representation series injury came out of that. But when goes on I have been on those military troops the others punching machine at a bowling alley and a few fighters that we've gone with have all lined up and fans gathered around fighters liked it and they would punch and kick it. I think you could do something with that. And the only other thing I can think of is those coaches challenges that they're not over the years like Ping Pong or shooting pool or driving range or maybe something like that all a battle of the network stars back in the days Where you may just grabbed eight or sixteen athletes. That aren't aren't competing that weekend and you have In some sort of athletic skills. That won't risk injury. I mean I suppose you could swing a golf club and throw your back but now you're really reaching. I suppose you could I in Ping Pong trip and fall while trying to save a rally but again we're reaching quintet stuff happening there. You know that's grappling. That's a little bit different. But what what would you think? What do you think Max Holloway suggestion? What do you think of? Can you think of any fun games that they could do or fun activities? I think it's fun. You know. It would probably require them spending a lot of money getting fighters out there for you know smaller things that I don't know what the that type of payoff is. But if you think about their expo is just so different from what it started. It would have been fun to have something at that moment. Right maybe like some weightlifting We see a lot of Some weightlifting challenges or something. But I would definitely tune in like our there and you told me these type of things are going to happen. I would totally show up so what I think they could have some fun with it as long as there's not the risk of injury. I think Dana would be into it the UC's very good about saying. Hey look we found a sponsor. Let's let me throw something out here. Metro PCs We'll give two hundred thousand dollars to the winner. Eight guys compete different weight classes. Maybe throw in a couple of girls and like I said Ping Pong Shooting Pool. Maybe a forty yard sprint Tug of war because yeah maybe Tug of war. You know something that we can say. Okay there's benefits a little bit of the strong is benefits. Lift the faster fighter But in the end you kind of compile some scores And and that's it you know and at the end somebody gets some money so you know you see how the coaches challenges are. That's ten grand. That's you know that those guys are fighting for I. For the the fighters it's fifteen hundred but the coaches get ten grand so. I don't know I kind of like. I think it'd be cool now. I don't know of Max. I don't know if they looked at it over at UC and said Max drop it or if they're seriously contemplated but if they are goes available right to go with Aaron craft this idea put it to work higher. I think maximum would probably want the Chiro challenge rate. You would own people not. Yeah for sure All right ALLIE QUINTA ONCE DUSTIN. Poyet's last bit of news that I wanted to cover Man I heard it and I'm thinking let's do it like two high profile one hundred fibers kinda bouncing back from setbacks losses. They don't get in the way of anything that's happening right now. With you know we got Habib versus Tony. You got Conor McGregor arguably waiting in the wings if it's Abib possible just engaging if it's not a B. because I firmly believe that it's not Habib. Connor still fights Tony or he goes out and boxes and does something else. But in the meantime don't forget about Justin Gage as well tell folks and insane Paul Hook. Paul Feldon Dan. Hooker there the rising. Well you got the Kevin Lease of the world. You got Charles Oliveira's of the world the there's others that are climbing as well. So in the meantime these two can stay busy. Signed me up a good fight especially on paper. I think both guys can live and things up a little bit. And it's I guess a little not really a placeholder fight. It's just something that just makes sense. At this moment. I think. Yeah it's it's like three or four steps away from loser. Town but loser leaves contention You know what I mean. Something like that It's got a little bit of that fuel so I'm okay with it. Switching over to bell for about thirty nine ruth versus on us off goes. I've been a big fan of Ed Ruth whose got Amazing wrestling credentials. I feel like it's striking is really really solid. I think he's a fighter who excuse me a wrestler who learned how to throw hands and He's fighting undefeated fighter in Yaroslava. Imus off so big fight for Ed Ruth to see if he's he's going to be one of those wrestling guys at Bell. Tor has a groom these last few years like Tiro Fortune like him like an Pico. To See he can get it done That's the main event on paramount and disown nine PM Eastern. And that's February twenty first so tomorrow Friday Brandon Gertz versus milds jury the aforementioned Tiro Fortin versus Timothy Johnson. Out of extreme tour hobby. I yellow versus mounting. Moldau Ski. So names that we're familiar with Keith. Lee Versus Shawn Bunch. Me We gotta turn in tune in a little bit early Gaston Bolanos returns goes so names. Their damn down. I like Ed Ruth. I don't WanNa say it's make or break but you kinda you put it a really interesting in a way that it just gonNa tell us exactly where he's at rice progression of what would it is. They're going to have honest and deepest division welterweight. Yeah and that's the thing that's like that's been some criticism for both or is that sometimes these young up and comer and guys we just don't know how well they are because their their opposition. And this is I think you have to applaud. Delatour on this one is a good fight. Yeah I take it back. Just got a text from a bunch of weights at Bell Tower. They're arguing that they have the deepest division they may be us. Bell Tower also has another card With Lia mccord and Judith Ruiz. That's bell tore seven Europe. So if you're just looking for action on the twenty second in Dublin Ireland Five. Pm Eastern on May Junkie This is Kinda them. Just basically son ground in Europe and they'll send some of their fighters from the state side to go that way or just groom the ones out there But for example George Car Communist flying across the world to fight in Dublin Also Bell Tortuga forty how they do it over there. Manley separate the cards with does own and paramount and take delays so check enemy junkie. Check schedule and you can see a breakdown of when everything's happening but I'll tell you. Right now it's Brent premiums versus Chris Vanguard on paramount zone ten PM eastern via tape delay again. That's the same card in Ireland. The just name it differently for the different TV contracts that they have out there But it's all basically the same night. Bec Rawlings returns Vicky. Bandai has is out there as well. So that's your belt or offering for the week and Any thoughts on on what's going on in Europe goes. I mean to be honest I love him and and Hooker and felt are going to get my attention. I agree but then boxing within Bosnia belches too rough weekend for them so if they can score big out there hey props to you but it's really really tough. There's there's so many other sportsmen there's basketball hockey soccer you know we just ended football we got that one out of the way but still. It's really really tough. Nowadays all right felder versus hooker. Jimmy Chris's Michelle all it sue. Why don't we even attempt that name all said Schick I believe on I got that right? Carolyn McCall Characteristics John John. That's the other Chinese fighter. That's really really good at starway side from the chant we Zang Marcos area. Dilemma is in action Kevin Agla remember him. He's back in action. Jake Matthews versus Emile Meek Kaikoura France versus Tyson Angelil. Of course he's on every week Machi- Potolo he played at the Stringer Tour. Versus Junkies is part of So a lot of fighters on this card but the the big attentions on felder versus hooker. It's GonNa be a good one to who do you got. I got a felder but I've I'm starting to think we've got the wrong guy because every I see everybody taken hooker. I see it as well and I. I know. I'm being a little bit of a homer but hey I've seen how I've seen felder grow as a fighter Is I thought he had Kinda run? Its run his course a little bit I thought the the Perry fight even though it happen at one seventy. He took some damage and I think he was just questioning man. You know it's top being away from his daughter He's got a surging career as a broadcaster. Does he really need to continue doing this? But he's been able to rack up some wins and respect and he's been beating some good finally avenged a big loss in Edson Barboza along the way so I think he definitely knows. Hey Man I really am one of the tough guys out there between Barboza Vic Oliveira and Stevie Ray Alexander Ritchie. He's got a fight win streak if you removed. Perry fight just at lightly. So he's got something going here. Barboza's no joke. You Be Barbosa. You should feel like you can beat anyone. L'oreal oh hell. Yeah Yeah So. I'm going as well now. Quick note on that folks it is taking place on Saturday on. Espn plus seven PM Eastern. Start Time Four. Pm Pacific so earlier than usual for the East Coast and the West Coast remember. It's usually seven. Pm Pacific Time for pay per views. This one some PM Eastern on ESPN plus four the main card the premiums go off at four PM Eastern one PM Pacific. So it's an early Saturday. Affair for us in. The fights are going to take place on Sunday in New Zealand. I don't want you guys to get confused. All right folks. That's our Thursday show covered a little bit there with some news previewed. Some of these fights that are coming up tried to send you in the right direction to the right channels at the right time for bell tour and the UC talked a little bit about boxing. Goes hopefully some of the fans take us up on it? A night of boxing was friends and family and pizza and beer. It's not bad right. This one's going to deliver. Want to give it a chance. Yeah all right folks you know us. We'll be back on Monday. Ready to talk about all of these fights ready to see who might be lining up for Habib's title after Tony I should say the winner of that because I might go with Tony on that when you never know we still a few months away but we'll be talking about all that all the action from this past weekend. Please follow us on Instagram and twitter. I'm at Major. 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UF265: James Vick, and Ron Funches In-Studio

UFC Unfiltered with Jim Norton and Matt Serra

1:15:33 hr | 2 years ago

UF265: James Vick, and Ron Funches In-Studio

"Good evening. Welcome to you have see unfiltered Matenaer joined on the phone by James Vick. But first we are joined in studio. Very funny comic my pal Ron funchess. This is a good one. We hope. Shots this away to know what he is sitting chasing that finish. In the Baden. Always. This is you have see on filtered. And now your hosts Jim Norton and mad, Sarah. Thank you for listening. Matenaer joined I like we have an in studio guest to start to joy that more especially with the guy. Like, it's a friend of mine. Very funny comic. Ron funchess. Ron. Thank you for calling. Ron. Thank you. Thanks for human James Vick qualley in to promote his fight against who's who's fighting Tim Boza. No fucked just engaged who's. I was going to the co main for Kane in Ghana. Yeah. That's the first ESPN. On ESPN the whole card. Right. Right. Right. Yeah. I didn't even know you were UFC fan. I'm not a big as you as the fan. I'm a medium. I would say small to medium. Do you watch it at all? Yeah. Coming here and just not watching do different some who's your favorite. You have see fighter Bernard Hopkins. Okay. No. But I just I mean you as you know, just love wrestling Baker and appro wrestling fake stuff more than the real stuff. But I come to get more of a knowledge in more of a respect for it. Mostly through a lady that I was dating in the past. She was a big fan of Joe Joanna. Oh, so I'm a big fan of her. She's got great punch. Speed amazing. You know, love her and so more and more the female fighters because of that. But yeah, that's true. That's unique to because you don't hear a lot of fight fans to how did you get into my girlfriend was Jason Fane. Like that's actually a great way to get into the role memo though because you've got such a big fan. And he's like not even says that. This guy said it crystal. We don't think you did. I would have had run in. Anyway, is this Chris wrote Chris Ronnie big fan and also loves professional wrestling. Okay. Switch switch it. They said Ron likes you feel a little out of Bill on my defense when we were. And I'm a big fan of Ron's. We're happy to have him. Anyway, pitched it was a huge. You have see I'm gonna put it on the publicist. Veget- heads will actually no they won't come on this show. I was like why am I going? I love gym. I love Jim. And I thought maybe they you guys would be like teach me I like. Honesty. I like when things are revealed on air instead of like, pretending and be like, okay. I like that we point out that he's not a fan at all. We could make him a fan before he leaves. You. Have you ever watched any of the funds? Yeah. I know you said you watch them girls fights. But you don't you find that you don't find it as exciting as say like the professional wrestling or you like the whole the drama of it the soap opera that other drama fakeness professionals, and I'll watch Bill, I don't judge anybody. I like when they're passionate about anything like people love that your buddy Sam Roberts, the fakes. Yes. He does you know. And I love I mean, can we talk here things. I'd love to talk about is how some of the fake stuff is is coming into the UFC are into Ballatore. And particularly you guys had fight with a former wrestler, Jack swagger who is now Jake Jake Hager real name, and he came out with he would afford wrestler's entrance. He had his wrestler friend come out with. Them. He came out with his wrestler. Catchphrase we the people why just over all going to be cut out because his Beleta. I'm how you're not allowed to talk about. Around rock. You can only corporate Rondo listen. This is perfect because it kicks off where we find out that you're not a fan at all. And then you like I love fucking Bella. On the lawyers promotions your second favorite crossover. There was no crossover and then brought comes in and does very well. As a wrestler is arrested. We're going to do he beats frighten here beat Shane. He he did you really want? Jimmy. He's not he's not like he's a punk. No offense. I like Sammy's. Nice guy. Punk coming over. He's up. He was legit amateur wrestler who fucking Brock less shit. Wesseling alone. He's real rustling. Yeah. Great wrestler. I wanna know we don't run right jump right into it. But I wanna know about giggle fit. Okay. Don't wanna know about. Comic about a scam. I do I before we do that. Go ahead. All your listeners. Are you? Have stuck listening? Rob. At least talk something of taught guys because I mean, we bring it back to USC is that then let's talk about the fight between Kabaeva in McGregor. Okay. Where that was ninety percent professional wrestling. And and then they didn't tell one guy didn't tell Khabib that. This is pro wrestling jumped out of all the promotion of the people. Yeah. Promotional angle wrestling is definitely blood into it. And again Brockett that when he was in the he'll he was a great priorities like saying fuck the sponsors, which he had to say sorry for. But it was then. But then Rhonda winds up losing and going over to WWE and being the biggest star over there, and it's definitely crossover. When Brock came out of the cage, one time, the undertaker was there, and they had a weird moment with each other. You know, I mean, I think both organizations realized the other one is massive and has a tremendous fan base. And they're going to be some bleed over fans. So they might as well try to grab a few more. So it's it's smart business smart business. But I think but my point is. I wish that they would at least let some of the people more people in on it because when Connors throwing dollies or doing things that like that's part of promoting if he's doing because win could be like, why did you jump out? He talked about my dad. He talked about my religion. He talked about countries like dad his job. Oppose to do if you wanna sell fire, but this should be a line in the sand. Because how far you go because then you taking it something making something other than sport when you have line. It's I mean when you put when you're trying to sell pay per view, it's entertainment at that. Of course. But I wanna burn the guy's house down. Why not just a you know, like shit on the guys porch? I don't know how already you take it. Where is going to be like, I'm watching that? Because it's combat sports. The more you wrong, somebody do that. You wanna see them fight? All he did that the always said that. So I understand that that part of it. But when you talk about like somebody's family and religion like you just talked about what Connor said. Making it something else nearly are. So then you've gotta take whatever consequences come to you. So it's like, you know, when Khanna's indicates that, hey, it's all business really turn up my father. It's all business. Really? I my religion. Really? Now, you're going to now you the guy he's not being a hardest. He's as all business. It's all business right now, you get your asking why I agree with that. What you're saying? But then it has to be known on both sides and Connor if he does it in Carney's be punished ABC's not punish. My whole point is that at the end of the day will Connor does is is bringing in money. He's bringing in is he's bringing in views, and then when could be does that is bringing is bringing him views. But because he jumped over the thing, and nobody let him in on the fact that it is business. The only people that lost money was Connor and Khabib. Well, I knew it was sorry, Matt, but he didn't like much money of his own pocket because he's not in on the work in that to me is the most unfair thing is the guy in the fight losing money when everything else is blowing up because of well. It's it's weird. I don't even know if I can give it to wrestling on that 'cause boxing did it too. I mean, I'll e was better at that than anybody was taught these two Frazier's or sunny listens training camp. You know, what I mean, he would go outside of his house with a whole lot of. I think was listened pulled a fake gun on him and a casino. And he ran like those guys did a long before you have seen WWE. So combat sports have always had a certain amount of. Aggression to each other. And I don't mind Connor doing it to be honest. If you're fighting Connor everyone wants to fight Conor because he brings in the most money. So you know, that's what he does. When you fight. Yeah. Exactly. I may whether that's one percent like, oh, this guy that is when you really good because you're a great fighter. Then you have a mind for the business of it. And you have a mind for the entertainment aspect of it. And that's one thing where I like wrestling where I'm like, we're in over UFC is that like everybody's in on it except for the fans, you know, except for we all know that too. I just don't like it when when again when people are losing money when when everybody else is gaining money, the company is gaining money. And at the end of the day, the fighter has to go fight some more because they lost money because they got fine shouldn't jump the cage though. I like he'd be a lot. I think it was wrong to do that in matter. How angry you are. And the difference between like when two guys are really going to fight is different than when even though wrestlers get fucked up and they get injuries and they get hurt. They are not really fighting this difference into a really fight. I guess the the consequences of the words a little. More. I don't want to keep reation this. But I'm just saying I mean, he broke the guy I mean, and then what it's time for him to get some revenge. The guy is taps out real quick. It's like man the fuck, but he watch. Really if the all that you say, an uncle choking up next time, really and fairness when this episode is out the hearings for John Jones, Connor and can be Marta Morrow, actually. So when you're listening to this the hearings are happening. So we'll find out what the the final fine is for those spends on anything license, which will Vegas talking about that yet show. Jones also had this summer twenty eighth. He had the voluntary anti-doping agency test results, they get released thirty three picograms of the three metabolite Orel terminal his December twenty ninth test came back negative. So it's one of those things that just what did they say? It's pulse effect. This is this is if anything this validates what they've been saying all along where you're being you're gonna get a tiny amount of it sometimes. And sometimes you're gonna get nothing because in your fat, or whatever they they're not even really sure where it comes. Right. It just kind of pulses in liver or whatever. Well, listen, we could talk all those Nino Nico grams all day long Ron in here. And I heard he's into video game. You went to video I like that TRAN pivot. I want. I want to talk about that shit. I talk about you. Listen to me. The new game Pika grab and you get that wrong too. I don't know. I love it. I love we really about this pockets so excited you were to have me here. And now, it's really fading out. He's saving what he really wants to talk to you about a minute. I heard your into all you into video games. He no love. I love okay now. Now, what did you write about video games? Oh, you're an avid vio game plan. What do you play XBox? Please play everything a little bit of everything have you ever fucked around with the virtual reality. Yeah. The vibe. Yeah. Really five at the house. Yeah. Wash my hands. I there's a game. I addicted to this thing, I might lose a lot of us right now. Listen to this one of my sinus. Chad all talk about your side, bad, sinuses. What do you what do you play in the vibe? I play I play my game battles last. Wait, what does it down and out battle royale g but it's it's so fucking money. I love excuse me. What do you play this game like super hot? Have you played that one? What is that? It's a shooter. But like things only move when you move. So you're standing still everything's kinda slow motion in you. As you move these people coming at you trying to shoot you. You have to dodge them knock the gun out of their much fun. Yeah. So much get dizzy dizzy, I tried VR one time, and I got dizzy. Busy. But your old. I am an older, man. How how old are you? Ron thirty. Oh, you're young man. I was not gonna triggered thirty five thirty five. You always bring that up. I know knocking out Frank Trigg already how conscious I know. Deserve your fun. I know have any I don't have any memories like that. Thirty five. So much one. I have no embarrasses me by bringing. I have. No, physical, man memories. Yeah. No thirty seven. Oh, yeah. I was in Phoenix. I lost an erection. My members zeal. Yeah. They're all negative while. I'm what you call a bully BUSTER. I heard you lost a lot of weight. How'd you do it? Just changed my diet exercise in a bunch of guys trainer. One hundred forty pounds. Just been real forty. Basically the way to Jimmy. You lost me you start you start to get addicted to the compliments like people the first couple of times. People look good. You lost weight you like fucking that motivation to keep going for six months. Yeah. Definitely does. And then it kind of sucks because in those fade away because people get used to how you look and I'm like come on. Yeah. Still a big deal. Yeah. Let me tell you something. I used to be such a fact guy, I had you know, what I love pizza and pasta. I had over the weekend. I headed again, I told you about ready the Cali flower pizza, we get from students whether we get it from so fucking good. Kelly flower pizza, it doesn't sound good. It doesn't sound good. It sounds disgusting. I don't like Halley flour. No me. Neither. A lot of things that they're doing with their mashing it up the frying it. The crust is the Cali flower dull and cross. No. It's not the dough is calling. So it's no carbs. I don't I don't know. What the fuck me? I'm picking out on that thing. And it's the lists. Just trump. The gluten man let go with gluten. Now, that's. Oh passionate Ron Ron get along right away. Video e tell me, I know I go I know wanted to ask you. Fan. Right. He knows. I wanted to ask that gene loves to take my guy to take all the smoke. You ask them you already asked the DC universe. Aren't Clinton show voice word. All you. Really? Yeah. Who on that show? Oh, you you're. So I. The I love I notice, I know you don't look at me and just say comic book. So, you know, I love comic books. He does a soundbite fucking nerd anyway. Video games colleague books. I love it most hall of fame around. But that's that's not to do anything in this story. So you're what are you doing this? What are you doing with this? What are you gonna steal? My question's. Always. Why didn't I didn't backtrack? Yeah. Wanted you to talk about some. I love your relationship. It really is to bottoms. What are you doing with the DC universe on the holy Quinn show? What is Harley Quinn's gang? I played king shark. If you're familiar with that character. I'm a half man half shark, very violent very deadly. But also, very sweet. And until now, did you don't know anything about it. Did you do they say, this is the type of attitude we wanted or did you just interpret it and do it? How you wanted ages? Be me, really, you know. And so I just kind of violent. Oh, you'd be surprised. I'm very I'm actually put on the king shark voice. Or is that it right now. This is it really. And then it sometimes I have the yell and give very loud. Yeah. That's what that's what I learned. They say that I'm the loudest person in the sound booth. I'm very you wouldn't think that wouldn't think Jimmy. Trying to poke the lion. So was there another king Chartres that you could model it after or no not voice? Why is he part of the suicide squad? Yeah. Yeah. Then this one hanging, I know useless, shit outlet. King of useless, very useful stuff at in an interview. Because now he understand what you're saying. So I knew I'm just a nerd. I'm just outside after nerves dope. Jason Alexander's plan a character shit playing. I don't even know the name on there. He hasn't done a lot. I mean, I'm sure it's just by choice. He's with a lot of money. He's probably not just he's relaxing after Seinfeld. Yeah. Is this show for kids? Or is it? No. It's violent is such an I'm going to watch. It you let will you like that? What is it called? I love titans. Call. What's on the app is going to be on the DC apple? So the streaming streaming service which I belong to everybody the DC universe, right? Yes. I do like seventy five bucks a year. Steele, Jimmy Steele. How many things are on it? Oh, man. I watch any kind of comics on your ipad. You I love it just for that titan series alone that titan series is as good as any mall. And I'm a mobile guy is better than as good as or better than any mobile. Netflix series of the of the comic book series, punisher, daredevil and stuff. I wouldn't think other seen it on. Listen, they made maybe you're just a grownup. I don't know. Who Bill Maher who more says, you're grown up? Now, he came out again he taught him he wouldn't Stanley Bill moir's mega like comic books. But I loved them is a very funny, and then he came out of getting double down on it. Yeah. And he was really funny. Bill Maher that hey, I said it. Hey. You're really sending out live high. No, man. I know, you know, giggle fit. He still made me laugh now giggle fit. You did it for comedy central to everyone is doing like Netflix thing. Did you did you want to do it for comedy central? No. Of course, wanted to Netflix. Our? But they they wanted me do half hour, and they said they didn't think severe me as our comedian at that time, and I disagreed, and I had already done a half hour for comedy show for and and I'm more than I mean more than exposure in like, we don't because it's like worldwide distribution all that little loaded. Perfect. You know, perfect world. But I'm all about getting better getting experiences learning things. And I wanted to learn how to do an hour. You can call me. Oh, passion. You can call me a romantic, but to me hours, especially and you of course, and you also want to dump them like after you do the hour. You like you want you doing it for a couple of years? Exactly this stuff. I'm done with it. Exactly. And that's what they put it. They're like, hey, maybe you can do a half hour and do another. A half hour later, and I'm like, I don't try to Jerry rig sets like that. Yeah. This is done. This is ready. And I wanted to put together in comedy central came through. It was like, we'd we'd love to have you. And I'm with the highest rate especial they've had in the last years by like forty five percents. Great. I'm really big into numbers. What Netflix doesn't give you numbers? So it's good. If you know that you're doing really well. Yeah. You have to edit this. They showing this with commercials or they showing it unedited you can get on the comedy central app in the website right now free. Just click in normally have that little log in you don't even need that. But that's got commercials. You can get on itunes, Google play food who Amazon really anywhere. You can give video sorry about that. So you get videos anywhere for like five bucks. Where'd you tape? It. I tape it and Seattle at the Neptune theatre isn't a nice when you do it. Now when you were you happy with the first time you because there's always one show. You're happier within the other like I'll tape if I do a special tape to once usually the big deals that I don't hang myself in between the first and second show. I'm like, all right. You got one more shot at this. The first one was shit. But then it's always a little better than you thought. It was the first show went really well. I mean, mostly because I think I did in Seattle I'm from the north west. And so I got a good audience there, and we charge for tickets. Instead of doing the free, you know, just just a little bit just ten fifteen bucks. But you know, that's big difference. Then having people just coming off the street for free. And so we had a great first audience. But I think I was a little more nervous for sure and a little sweatier for sure. And then the second show, I think I think this show that special is ninety percent the second show. You know, it's funny. They a lot of times they would do that. In the networks. They would bring they have audience coordinators they'll come out, and they'll see people and a lot of times you like really attractive. They wanna have it like a, you know, a beautiful people like, you know, really good looking. I'm like a knowledge it's not my audience. I want mutants. Talking mutants in the front row. The second time do not do that. Again, is that what it was. They put like the good looking people up and my show typically, no more. This is going back many years. I kind of I made that known that I didn't want that because it's not a fucking beauty. I don't want Representative crowd. Anyway, comes in fucking animals, come in so crazy watching your set and then cut to and it's some twenty year old beautiful girl. Exactly who woke girls for staring at me. Fucking. There's two forty five year old guys loving into woke girls, we hate my guts, that's probably something audience. That's not my audience. So you're going to start touring on this now. And then you start hoping. I hope the numbers are more when I'm out on the road. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Just started tour in without Maryland last week being Salt Lake City and next week. Why guys and least from this first week definitely showed that there was some more people showing up, and we sold out a few more shows than I normally do and. Yeah, it's so far it seems like it's getting good feedback. What's what's better? Or what's worse? When you're on the road, you're doing a gig. And he's like, there's not many tickets sold. And then you are on stage. It's like almost eighty percent full fuck. But then you see the numbers paper that. Oh, yeah. I rather I rather do it half empty room of people that want to be there. Then a paper. Groom the club wouldn't because they sell the drinks, food and stuff. Yeah. No. I get their perspective. But it's just a horrible time. Because I mean for both of us. I mean, maybe different sides of a coin, but we're both unique products. You don't know what you're getting you pro-, you might hate it. And so that's always save you come and see me you just coming off of a free show you need to give it a Google. You know? Yeah, I might not be what you want. Is it weird if you guys ever do gigs when like six people, what is some shit must have happen. Sure is weird. Is it like awkward or you just like y'all get this? Hell I mean, I never really done one for like six people were doing like our anything like that. But like, you know, definitely like fifteen twenty minutes. But you really I think that's when you it really wanna be for you, Jim. But it's stills in you're you're like just got about me and get my rhythm down. And and I know what's funny. I don't know if it worked or not. And if these six people laugh, and it definitely works. You know, just learn to do it that way. I if you walk out depends on where you are taking a market. You've never been to a it's an improv and Utah someplace you've never been in you walk out, and there's one hundred and twenty people in a five hundred seat room, and like the worst what you see those waiters waitresses sitting in the back like, oh, it's my fault. They're not working. It's my father just watching the show, and they hate my guts always acknowledged right up front. The fact that I'm gonna three quarters empty. I have to and it just kind of you get the I laugh on the fact that like, look there's nobody here, and I just kind of move forward elephant in the room. You have job in general is just talking about what's going on. I mean, that's what we did. When we got here. I would been it could have been a phony and been like, yeah, I love you is the biggest man I order every event. But I'm just like, why am I here will you point out? It shows how you know producers really somebody fucked it up. That's what I'm saying. Somebody going on that side of the room. I don't think I am still very valuable get one hundred percent. Yeah. I would have somebody who doesn't watch. We just didn't. It was just the prep. She was real. Yeah. It happens. I was misled took. But he does like you were you bummed out when she lost her rose very bummed out roses, and like my second favorite is great because you great into game. She's my go-to player in playing UFC two. I guess not the new one. But yes. And but rose is also like she's she's just though I don't know about her trainer boyfriend. I don't know. I was just like, I don't know about them together. She seems so demure and I'm like I'm wondering, and then she's but I do like that. She's always like, it's just gone. They weren't to get like they work like for some reason, you know, because pats maniac, but they trained together. And he's he's very I think he's pretty good for. They just seem to click. It works. You know? But PAT's fucking Kook pats frightening. I that's what see on the go go why? But no, no. I don't mind that. Guy. But he's crazy looking is. This guy's a fucking major pro like this. If you get a line hitch with a table pets fucking problem. Yeah. No, I love rose. But I just like Johanna more like because you'll always jump in anytime, she'll take a fight only two weeks one week notice, she's a real fighter. And so I I'm a big fan of offer to fight with a she went to was going to go up to like one thirty five at one thirty five. I forget what happened going into the O. Amanda fell out of the fight. The first time they were supposed to find that Amanda, sinus issue in Vegas. And then you on. And it was just a couple of days before and they couldn't get her sanctioned in the wake-up. It's gonna be a problem didn't all right. That you in the background. You would weigh heavier there. Yeah. Is that your heavier? See you walking out. When did you tape this tape this in June, June of two thousand eighteen now, do you fluctuate or is this the first time that you really lost this way as the first time, I really lost this way. Oh, I see all look at you. You know, what the way you're a comedian? You silly. You. Kkob. It out gonna come out really heavy thought, this filled and you. And you. Of what you just work RIC flair roofs. Yes. Do good for you, buddy. Thank you. And then when the rope comes off then you really look at funchess three fifteen. They're all holding up signs. Very funny. Yeah. Look at that comes the robe the roads coming off. Look at you, look at you. Don't you feel good? And I that's a nice intro. You feel more confident. Oh, absolutely. It's amazing. You know now how you always heavy. Yeah. What made you finally say I had enough, and I wanna drop one hundred pounds of you things like a combination of events. I took on a flight and some lady woke me up in the middle of the flight. And it was like I think you might have sleep apnea. Work in the medical field. I snore too. And then my mom came to visit on thanksgiving. And she was she went to go buy me some clothes, and I think at that point. I was like a five x or something like that. And she was just like, I don't a it's hard for me to go find this and be I don't feel nice buying these things for you. And so that really kind of stuck in me for a while. And then I got the first television show. I worked on the creator that. He was like, hey, I saw you first season seemed like you were in the gym a lot trying to lose weight and inbetween seem like put on a bunch of way. And if you if you're just looking for the tools to do this. I have a trainer I'm willing to introduce you guys I'm willing to pay for him for you. Nice for a few months. And and I was like, yeah. I was I wanna do that been with that trainer ever since? Yeah. It's really you just get to a point off. I didn't have to live. One hundred four I probably lost a total of forty over over thirty five to forty over the last few years, I bounce back and forth five or six. But after a while you like I just hate being naked with a woman like I would just look at myself nude and like how do I do this? I hate it like clothes, I like fashion and stuff just a little cutting now, but I do general. I mean, like this, you know. Nice to be able to wear that. Hey, exactly, exactly. And not have to go to a specialty store are not used to like when you get to a certain size all your clothes or either like floral patterns or the big dogs on. I was sick of that. It's like Kevin Smith, the he came out with his own jerseys. And now he lost a ton away to all he does we're hockey jerseys. And but all in Kevin lost the way he lost a lot of all he does smoke pot, and he's fighting Arnaud. So I'd so everybody. Apparently, that's how it started the whole thing. Like Bill Maher. Smith got annoyed that Bill Maher in a blog post about adults like comics. And then Bill Kevin Smith is awesome. On his side. I feel very funny though. I don't care bills being a dick you still makes me laugh. He's a funny. Yeah. Put me in a movie or two movies. I love Kevin. I like Bill. Puts me in a movie is automatically where I've my allegiance goes gymnasts. One thing. I always wanted to talk about your view on that. Because I feel like everybody's like, oh, I didn't like what he said. So I hate this person. And it's just like I can just like most people, you know, like, I I've never met a person. I like one hundred percent of what they agree with you. I can like you because you made me funny. But I can also be like, oh, you're oh, I when I hear stuff like that. With the Bill Maher go, oh, you're getting old becoming real old. And that's okay. And that's kinda cute. He was to me. It was funny. Like, I never have to agree to enjoy it. What he say I want to. But he goes I want to correct everything he said I. He goes, I'm not glad Stanley. I'm not he's an I'm glad that Stanley is dead. I'm sad that you're alive. Listen div, really funny, though. But I listen to Paul Mooney and not agree with him. And he's still makes me laugh NICD Apollo makes me laugh to fuck with it. Come from, you know. Yeah. Patrice. I guess I was a lot closer to. Yeah. You always agreed with that. With a lot of it. Yeah. I agree with a lot of it. Not all, but no we had a lot of fights, actually. But most of them are on tough crowd or in the car. You just sit there before you got a card fucking go off on something and spent forty minutes. Arguing get do. You think it's weird? How people treat you differently. When you're a fatty, and I say as a guy that could be a fatty, you know, you see very I have. Don't you think people treat you differently? When you lost the weight, you feel that I definitely feel that Jimmy you feel it also. Again, people always say like me better fat like I've gotten that a lot to miss fat Jimmy because I was meaner than, but I was also a few years younger, and I'm just the older you get the better life gets. And you're happy you just feel better. That's what people probably don't there's probably a bunch of your don't even know that this is what you look like to them. Yeah. I. A lot of girl. We'll look at a little picture. Oh my God. I'm so happy that I did it. Yeah. No, people just like you learn how people can just get caught up in what you look like. And then it's just fun to look better and have more. Is on you women like and you in funds. There's nothing negative to it other than people going like. Oh, yeah. You thought you'd be funnier. Because you were fat, you know, when you were fat. But it's like I'm way funnier. Now got more energy. I can do to shows without dying. What the apnea I still have it for me. It was never a way to show. I just can't sleep. What did you do about? It was the way it was once I lost away. Like, yeah. I stopped Noren and stuff. Once once I got under two fifty. My breathing train. How much better is a plane now beat on a plane and just sitting there crunched into a seat isn't nicest to sit there and not be nicer. I still have broad shoulders. So I hate it. When people are next away. But is just so nice not knowing that. I don't need a seatbelt extender. All you had now when you ask for that. Would you ever would never be embarrassing? Ask for. Yeah. Definitely embarrassed. I try to go with out it and just be like, well, let's not do it. The cool only time. It was. Okay. As when you get cool fight attendants, and they just handed to you on the sly. They don't even bring it up. Real jerk has planet tennis. They go. Are you going to need a see extender, you know? Embarrassing. No what you exactly know. They look at your bag and go is this your Valtrex and say, okay. Why? Pointed out there just being Dick's. Yeah. Just being dick. So that was cool. But now when I'm on like, ooh. On a little regional tiny planes. And I'm like click click. I'm very happy. Those are the worst. I've had a couple of bad flights in a row just turbulent turbulent terrible. And I'm like getting freaked out about flying again. Like, I've been a good flier for twenty years. And now I'm like fuck I'm starting to dreaded again. It's I don't know how to get over that man up and handle that shit. How Ron knows fucking giggle fit you mind. Do you mind? Shitty flights or you don't care. I don't really care usually in the sleep. You know, I've trained myself to sleep through most flights turbulence. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm usually usually edible or to him. Oh. We could have been hanging out ages ago for the show shown that was. Stop by. For drugs before. Depend on me. I mean. Do you gotta break before you go. Is it full this'll be filtered? Okay, do drugs. Thank you. Wait. So you first of all the CBD oil. You guys will do that you could smoke of someone else's. Why can't you guy? Someone's Lenny herpes. No you will shortly. Jimmy makes me laugh. It is. Doc counting as a bit for you. Because you're on the care known. Okay. All right, relapsing, hang myself. I wonder why did it? Well, it was one hundred percent, exactly. He was stoned. Matt was giggling. There you go. So, you know, it's the little blue light lights that tell you know, you're getting high God. Well, you can also take it goes. How can we can't do it on a plane though? It's not an offensive smell do. I don't know, man. When the is the smoke the same as smoke smoke, or is it a different. What is this vapor? They will a smoke lawn. Oh, yours through. That's why. With the liquid drugs in your pocket. Oh man is a husband and a father. Yes, you are. No. It's not the same as smoke. It smoke billows out with this. You can just kind of like blowing through sleeve, and it would just. Oh, okay. Two guys on the plane the bathroom people do but you can you can sit still set off the smoke. Oh, you can that's. I must see rich voice or the way. I had that battery. I used to have this is better. About a strong battery. Yeah. Jesus Christ you rich Voss, right? Rich Voss used to he when he was smoking cigarettes in animal he would just smoke cigarettes on the plane he'd go into the fucking bathroom and he would put to bathing caps over the smoke alarm. And then he would blow smoke, and they always would smell it reeking of smoke, but he was such a heavy smoker. He's the fall asleep with cigarettes in his hand in his fucking house. That sound you hear by the way, it's not a tire air lead out. That sounds like it, it's either. No, okay. Cool, and you passing something to run it looks like a lighter. Why are you smoking in your mouth there you go? Yeah. Nobody's of all. I'm not doing anything. No. The fuck. You talk about savage and my youn- sound different. Now, I'm not doing anything. That's not even talking right? I am not listening to me. All I know is this is such a fun show. Is it Ron? Yeah. We're gonna be up tight thought. Ron was no Rondo he was undefeated on at midnight, which was such a fun show to do we never did it together. But I used to love doing that show, man. It was just topical jokes. You go out there and fire almost anything you wanted. That was a fuck. It was a great show. Great wave for. Yeah. Please showcase our type of humor with L burning joke. Yes. The best thing in the world. You know? Yeah. I miss it. Because that's still get people. Go out my shows now people that's number one thing that people remember midnight. Yeah. Yeah. It's the worst. Because whatever I have something that clicks in it works, and I do well on goes. I'm the kiss of death anything. I'm successful on will eventually get pulled off the air fucking heartbreaking feel about. Yeah. Me too sitcoms. Once I can give you one season to season. Have you been on on this show on dateable with alita? And those guys I was gonna show called powerless, which was another DC universe show. When the fuck was that was a couple years ago. I was not on the. It was not on the no. Got that shit. Right. It was on the DC add it was still be going back. Probably would again not game paid much. Well, let me tell you this. This Harley Quinn show has a lot of seasons for this nerd Bill more you got a problem with it looked me up. I'm sorry. He was very funny. He's funny. I take a joke, but for the nerds out there. No one's getting thrown in the locker around me. Ron not happening. I love it me and Kevin Smith haven't had shit. No. You know? I love Chaim, eight minutes. I listen. I'm a man child. I love my five. I love my app drug. And I'm first of all no, oh, sorry. If you choose a drug then. Yes. Okay. That's dicta to jujitsu. Yes. Okay. Let's get back to giggle fit. Man. You're coolest me and Ron get along me. Do me a favor around give you see fight piss now. Silly guy. He doesn't easily while he knows mouth Frank trick. Is you brought that I did bring it up. I can't stop knocked him out. Thanks back to giggle. Frank Trigg is eighty one. I'll tell you right now. I saw him repping other night at another event. He's old. He's my age. But I saw refereeing and he's make fat jokes about me. I get a text from ally Quinta. Hey checkout Braintree ref and he'd been a never mega joke about you again guys fat fucking grave. He saw him. Now, you say Hello. I get enough friends. Ron. I gotta I literally don't eat Rondo Jim get to the point. We don't you feel like you don't need any new friend. Oh, absolutely. You have enough. I mean because. It might require time at about your problems. Thank jimmy. Yeah. I need some new friends in mind. You wanna friend? Yes, they wouldn't replace. You would just be in addition to do you get a girl right now girl right now you do. Yeah. She's beautiful as you want for your picture. Sure. Yes. How'd you meet her just to? Online. I thought she only had one picture of herself online. So I thought she was a real fake. Yes. Online now. Or facebook. Yeah. Or instagram? Those are all great ways to meet people. But I have to have a picture. It's like, hey because you do give me the okay with a thumbs up or something that you're just not. Troll have made it to me her Instagram a real human rod fished. It's one person. And it's really just like a, you know. Yeah. Definitely wigley. Yeah. Definitely that happens. Oh, what did he do to have a lovely? The worry. The day. I went to we any first day. We went to a restaurant that I went to anyway, I'm gonna have a good meal. No matter what you know. Depending on if you catfish to talk about dessert, right? Yeah. We don't Jimmy Jimmy. Oh, she's amazing. From that. He's not he's not showing the face. Wow. He's getting kissed. She's wearing a sun hat. He's wearing a very very delightful form finance. You know? Hey, listen. I'm I talk about you know, Jimmy knows that I talk about my wife a lot. Yeah. And things I love about my wife, and I could tell that, you know, me and Rhonda we run a lot comment. Okay. Here we go. That's more of a class. Go. Oh, wow. It's free. Just showing the back. So maybe a nice figure and the face might have been a little scary now, she's the hope she's very online. Lucky? He's got a special on comedy central. Yes. He he lost one hundred pounds forty hundred and forty forty. He's got a beautiful girlfriend. Yes. She's really hot. Did. She approach you online. Or did you guys meet on an app this game? I thought she was a robot on bumble. She sent me. One message goes looking for a gentleman in the perfect one has appeared. And I was like what the fuck is this rights like that who talk like this judo even know me, but you knew my comedy, and she's I just find out later. Oh, she Canadian. So she'll very nice, you know. And that's really I think we're it looks out that she is like LA hot book, but Canadian nice now had she been to the states before. Did she come to see you know, she'd been in before? Now, the thing is on bumble. Here's a here's why bumble have an issue because the woman has to approach you. So she approached Ron my my ratio is not good on bumble at all it. Oh, I do not do Ellen bumbled Tinder a little bit. I can you know, personality or conversation bumble horror. I love because I love it. If we've mashed that means. At least they at least they think, you're cute. Yeah. You know on tenders a very cold call on bumble, they at least been like. All right. Let me see, you know. And so then and women you find are the worst opening live sterile horrible. Because I never had to learn how to do it. Yeah. There have been good at how long how long have you been with the foia coming up on a year run you thirty five. Okay. It's a year soon. I'm not saying soon, she's around your age. Well, you know, the clock's ticking. I I wanna be the guy who will let you know what's going on because people are gonna just tiptoe around. It isn't it? You know, you can't just keep string. Does. She want a family run. No, she's not that traditional in that way. But she she she'd never really said that she even really wants to get married. She trying to rush you guys to the altar under saying, no, I mean, I was. I mean, I was when I was twenty. Oh is this the Murdy? Yeah. For seven years one son fifteen year old son. So a twenty two twenty seven that's amazing date in a long time or high school girlfriend, my first girlfriend. Wow, that's still friend. It was not good. Trying to be positive. Air. You have your children. The best part. Yeah. So wait. Now, you marry your high school sweetheart. But at that point, you probably wish you date a little more. I oh, yeah. For sure. Yeah. Anyone you know are just learned things. I didn't know it was not great relationship. It was a bad relationship. But I learned a lot, and I had my son. And then from ages let's say thirty till now often go around doing things on TV a little bit. So you know, how that go. And now a more like, I really I really like her and now I have experienced back up against and I go like, she'll run me a bash. He'll make me dinner, and it's not all about that. But I have been dating girls. I remember data's one girl. I work all day long like from six AM to like midnight. I was working neither do impress or doing stuff or doing voice over are doing a set. And she has spent the day she was more of a LA socialist. She has today doing high tea. Her friends, and then she we met up for dinner, and I'm like crashing. I'm so tired. I'm very putting worth together. And then she's like, can you run me a bath? And I'm just like what is this? You run me. What is this? You like you're you've been partying all day. And that's kind of the type of women that I had been hanging out with in general people who kind of like just because I'm a nice. I'm nice person be nice. I like making you dinner like taking you out like doing those type of things in there, some girls, I would take them out to dinner and not touched them. And then they'd be like, I've never won grow. Be like no one's ever taking me out to dinner before. And I thought that was cool. Good cool. I was like, no, I'm taking you out of your element. You usage just dealing with boys. Who wanted just take you to a bar and sleep with you. And so you're obviously not the type of girl for me. I need a girl who expects to be treated nicely, and who also wants to treat me nicely, and I found that with this girl and she also hottest big. But. Yeah. Loss. Jimmy, it is right. See I tend to meet the the ones who are damaged. You know, what I mean if I'm like, so what does your dad like she's like, I have no idea. Right. We can go out. But walking around Montreal. Okay. Better than you'd think. But but there's always someone I don't mind someone's past. I don't care what they've done like, I don't care if they'd been a sex worker, you ask or point whatever they've done this great is long as now than necessarily doing it. 'cause I can't date if you're still doing sex work get jealous. Jimmy, if you want to build a family with somebody, you might wanna know a little more, even more judgmental Biden pay. I don't mind I'm the dirty guy. So I prefer that. I'm my path. They're not gonna want my pants building a family with me, and my is horrendous. Well, you'd be surprised allow women especially as women get older, you got put up a lot because it's not that many good guys one of my friends, Liz in a living room early got job mostly worked with me when I take him on a row and women are hitting them up because he is nice. I have a lady who knows date, my friend ex pock who's arrested. I love XBox. Yeah. So funny because like, she's a black woman. And so he has to go like, hey, I used to do porn was it pro wrestler used to do bunch of drugs. And also if you Google me, you might see video of me in black face. And she has it was wrestling. Okay in this. She goes, well, not that many good guys. Crazy out. He can also say you can see my asshole get ripped on the turnbuckle. He's but he's such a good guy. But that's the point. He's a good guy. A love X puck, so cheap better. Snatch him. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I guess being nice. Like the older you get the more comfortable like, I'm comfortable. Dinner and having conversation like I'm fine hanging out with people not fucking like you get to a certain point if it happens. Great. If it doesn't I I'm not put the energy in. Yeah. Everyone pressure meth. My whole thing is I like in Tuesday Yasim. You wanna fuck me? I can't never be in a situation where I'm like, oh, I felt like I hit the pressure you into that. I don't I'm never into that. Yeah. Yeah. I wanna go who wants to fuck me too. Vice I TAC my wife. H Matt's very healthy marriage. I have such a good time with my wife, Ron von? He know do I just, you know. I still make blush. Ron. Oh, no. I do the same thing. My girl. You know, you can't be you can't bend over near me. Right behind you. Yeah. I'm a big Heine fan. Me too. Jimmy Alec big Heine. Yeah. Nice. All right. Why even wrap it up? It's really met it run. No that he's going to talk about. Oh, he s. Throwing them out. What is fit out? Comedy tonight. See like, I know run you can go to I tunes you can go to the comedy central app and see it just just Google Rogers giggle fit. I it comes up is the comedy central. Ryan genuinely funny stand up a really really good act. And where are you working? What's your website? If you just go get dates that com. Check it out. Get my dates my merge, whatever you're interested in. I've got a podcast getting better where we just talk about getting better at life and journey to constant struggle of doing that bring a lot of my favorite people of all aspects of life comedy acting. Wrestling writing lovely for either one of you to come on at some point to tape. It LA loves you. It's very positive. Yeah. And yeah, I'll be in Salt Lake City. I'll be in Australia. So that's yeah. What are you doing Melbourne and Sydney Perth? That's all you do it. But I did to cities and how long are you going for for about three weeks? Oh, that's great. Yeah. I went for a week in and out trying to get back for radio. But three weeks is nice, man. You can really enjoy it. Do this Sydney on of your freida heights? I am I did this Sydney bridge walk with my manager. And I were there's a there's a bridge in Sydney, Australia can walk over the top of the the arches on the bridge. And you're all chained in this guide taking through it's horrifying afraid of heights. I hated it. But I did it I recommended we get a lot of love from Australia. You know that dilly one hundred percent, dude, I get people a lot of people from Austria. That's because we've been nice. If at Robert Whitaker is that why? All right. Right. Israel's from there to one of my favorite fighters. You know, why? Because he likes me. I like you to Jimmy Iran. Really nice to meet you, and listen, this might be. I know you run out the door this the right time to say you lost all that weight. You might and it's just looking for training just as a way to stay fit. You might wanna try Brazilian jujitsu, man. You might want to I'm telling you don't have to wanna fight in the cage. Yeah. But you might you might like it and the beautiful thing about that. Even kickboxing hitting pads and stuff is you'll still continue to burn calories and stuff and you'll learn how to defend yourself to ever. Have you ever in Long Island New York doing a gig hit me up? I'll give you my number and you can get your schools lease Kuhlman. And I know I got to do the same. Phil gonna give me I have bomb. If you wanna if you want to you on the road you want to see a comedy show. Having to copy and plenty of seats available. Did you bring them? A couple of other comics awesome, fun after the great Ron funches checkout, his special giggle fit, and I'm happy for me. I really liked your stuff a lot. Appreciate it, man. You know, I'm only longtime fan from before I ever met you and even more. Now, it's good seeing you buddy. And we're gonna come right back with a phone call from James Vick. That was fine. It was really good to see Ron who. I enjoy very much James calling in virtual do you wanna do that again because I was yelling when we came back. Okay. Hi, jamie. We're back. Hi, matt. Why are we doing this? Again. We just did it. What are you saying is it was duty talked over talking? That ship is sales. Yes, it has. All right sweatshirts in them selling them. I'm sorry. I'm talking to myself, by the way, can we just go back because we mentioned it when Ron was here. So we didn't get a chance to get into it as much just going back to the John Jones thing these two tests the violence has by the way is the voluntary anti doping agency, which he was required to be a part of for C sack. The California say mission to sanction him to fight on short notice like that. They're like you got to enroll in vodka also. So that way you're being tested by multiple agencies. And we can really make sure it's it's nothing. Again. It sounds crazy. I think people people aren't willing to accept that. This is like they think that somehow John Jones is getting over on on the world a lot of people are in on this big conspiracy. But this really is the reality like all the scientists are telling you that this the reality. And then the tests come back on one day thirty three picograms the next day. None how big a Pika Graham. No, no. It's it's incomprehensively small, and they Jeff Vicki's even talked about that. There should be a minimum threshold of even if you have this type of trace amount in your system, it shouldn't even be something that that gets mentioned. All right. All right. So I was I had to know what if peak around was because it was not a compliment when the girl said that to me. You're making visits. She told me to to she said she loved it slam slam me with that picogram, PICO Graham. So yeah. What does it? How did he get the turn the ball into system? I mean, I guess he took it a while ago. Well, that's the thing. I mean that that's the thing that is up in the air, John, obviously, he's never said that he is taking Toronto ball, and they've never been able to identify the substance that could have gotten into system they think it's tainted supplement. Everybody believes that that the amount that was even in his because there was no. Medium-term metabolites and his body. I it's just long-term tablet. So if you taken it they would have seen these other markers, and they haven't they said he could've taken it seven years ago. It could still be innocent. They really don't know how long it would stay in your system or how long how happens with a lot of other guys. Like what said he's never had an issue other guys. Like, how are they are they getting their supplement from a better place, or are they less reckless or I mean, how does it happen? Yeah. Well, that's part of it though, too. I mean, you saw has a list of I think it's three hundred I might be wrong about that. But they have a list of of supplements that they've third party verified. And they're like this is what you should be using. So that's why he gets spent at all because it is it is reckless to the extent that it's not certified by questions with John Jones. Is there is there is there a anything that you can cut like because he had done cocaine at one point is right that you can cut cocaine with that would have created. That's triple got from that. Instead of one hundred percent sure that could be that's definitely a possibility now knocking firmed. But sure, but he admitted the coke. Yes. No. But I'm saying the creed. You know, you can't say definitely that's what happened, but yes, they do cut cocaine with creating sometimes. Yeah. I realized that Ron was on curb your enthusiasm. I didn't either the fuck he's been on a ton of stuff. He's I love I love that show career. Even though I didn't watch the last season to be honest with you, you know, I was upset that that super Dave Osborne died that was upsetting. Yeah. That is. I know. I know, you know, of course, Christopher newsy. You don't know that is and fucking Ray Longo stop saying Krista producer GAM why? It's so annoying. Oh cooper. Dave. I heard it the other day. I listen to his podcast day. The first. I did this and that you Krista produce fucking boo that we shouldn't there's litigation pending. We shouldn't talk about you should sue his ass. Anyway, I'm gonna call James Vick. Okay. Let's call jeans victimless, not bring up the FOX that exploded the other. Why that weekend? The fuck. I'm sure you ate it though. Nice meal, and I'm wearing in skirl. A wife's got a fucking FOX new FOX thing around her neck. Let's see James make what's up James. What's up, y'all? How you doing? I'm good James. I'm not gonna lie. We would just watching you. Exploding fox. Jays. We'll tell me about that. Now. Did you kill that FOX? What was left of it? Did you eat it? No, they don't they don't necessarily eat them up here. I mean, some people do, but we didn't. There was first of all there wasn't enough much less than that. But they're really they're nuisance anymore here. I didn't really realize how big of a problem. So I'm in in Maryland do my training camp in are. They realized how many FOX's they have periods. Crazy. It's not quite as bad as what hall population in in Texas. But it's, but it's pretty bad up here. So now, what is thermal hunting, the I obviously is hunting at night. But you do that more than daytime hunting. Yes. So Thermo, I do it for a lot for Hong. So one of my one of my sponsors, one of my companies pulsar Thermo imaging and it's like bay. It's us used to thermal was only available to military people. Now, it's available to civilians, and it's body. It's it's temperature base. So like when you go site in your your rifle scope, you cite it in like a hand warmer or an ice cube, and it's based on on heat and cold temperatures. So you can see like when I go hunting. And I hunt while pigs I'll go to field, and I can see the hogs from a thousand two thousand yards away. And then I walk up down wind from him. I'll get closer in raised the shoots, and it's just they really kinda cheating. It's like a video game for a grown, man. Because you just I mean, you can also change the modes on there where like where the animal will be like the. Bright orange where you look like you're the predator hunting. It's it's pretty cool actually really is. So when you note anything to do with ice or heat? What did you mean by that? So it's it's when you cited in by temperature so like for for the scope, so you have the site that scope in you have to make sure, you know, it's it's hitting the target when you put it onto your gun and everything and you use you use some people use ice cubes because that stands out because this is cold this temperature based like if I shine a thermal scope at a car engine. It's gonna show the coins is going to be a brighter color because of the heat that it produces with all he or cut temperature-based or cold base. When you call say citing in what does that mean that means setting your scope? Yeah. Yeah. When you're setting the scope to make sure it's accurate. You have to you know, you have. And every every even if you have a permanent when you keep you have to you know, you wanna double check is you wanna get out in the field. And and you you be right up on a on a animal mostly thermals used for predators, like coyotes foxes, Bob cats in while while hogs, and you don't want to be ready to she wanted them that they decide on the gonna be often. You miss that? You'll be you'll be real set. Now, you're you're the co main event Velazquez against in Ghana, you'll against Paul fell to which is a really really great fight. You're coming off the loss to just engage you after a loss like that. How do you kind of reset like what do you? What's your mental process after something like that happens? I mean, you know, honestly, I mean, this is happening before you know, I got called up, and he'll dare you. She was that was accumulation. But the same result. You know, it's it's basically just I mean, I believe I'm mentally stronger than than most people. So it's not mentally is nothing. I mean, in my mind got caught, you know, I mean, he through the, you know, the biggest punchy heavens arsenal and it connected right on you know, I got caught. So there's nothing really. I mean, mentally that. I that I'm you know off about I mean, I could've caught him. I, but you know, it played out the way it did. So I mean, I was got caught in my mind. So, you know, only that can do is make sure to try. Limit the chances of that punch and those shots landing ever again. And I've asked fighters just before two so for you. It's a little bit easier mentally because everyone can get caught. So if you just get caught it's ask Curtis played recently because he had that fast knockout against in Ghana. So when you get caught that's a little easier than a guy just beating you, you know, like, you know, thirty twenty seven for, you know, an a decision. Yeah. And I'll be honest with you like I got caught in that early. But I never gonna lose it. I'm the only way someone's gonna unless unless you have the highest of level of wrestler that could hold me down which hasn't been done yet. And then my mind is not going to. I'm not going to lose a decision. I would really get knocked out. I'm any fight that I lose, you know, if you lose it decision that mean to me, I your accepting defeats unless you're just massively outclassed, and I think that this point in with guys in the UFC, especially the top fifteen guys. None of us are just massively out cat class versus the other one you either you are willing to bite down mouthpiece of take that chance or you're not, you know. So I mean, unless I get a high level like crazy level wrestler. Something can hold me down. Then which I don't see happening. I'm not gonna lose it decision. I rather buy down my mouth piece and take it risk getting knocked up, and I wasn't the decision. Yeah. This especially your weight class. There's no there's no easy fight at all. And having said that poll Felder is not an easy fight. How do you? How do you feel? You matchup would fall for sure. He's he's a tough guy. He's very well. Route. Ended and he's good. He's good at everything. I feel like I'm match up. Well with him. I do think that I'm better everywhere. I think that we. We have you know, similar skill sets. I'm more of a boxer. He's more of a guide. But. I think that you know, my grappling is quite a bit better than his. I don't think that that that this fights really gonna play a factor of being on the ground. You know, because neither one of us really go for a lotta take downs anyway. But I mean, he's a tough opponent for sure. And he's he he's very well rounded, he has a lot of tools are. And he's not in that quick tap club. If you see him fight Alavesa have you seen that he's gonna give up? He's never been finished. You know, and I'm aware day know, he's never been finishing. When Joe Duffy, Joe w never been finished. Either. You know? I mean, I mean, obviously, I'm gonna go in there with the plan to finish the guy. But if I if I went to the fish, and then I'm going to be happy with that as well. You'll take the win. Anyway comes for for. Sure, man. I mean, you know, this is I mean the stakes too hot to be going in there taking reckless chances. And and stuff like that. I mean, obviously, I'm not a boring fighter. So I definitely will see foresee how anyway me and they're fighting each other could be boring because he's not more either. But then of the day. I mean, I'm gonna I'm gonna win in all cost over anything else. What did you think of his last fine? I think Perry. Pause fight. Right. I mean, he fought Perry. Very very tough. You went up in weight, and you wanna Blue's decision. But I mean that was an extremely tough fight broke his home in there. That's right. He did break on me. And he threw it. Yeah. For sure I think that nine times out of ten honestly, I think though, the wins that fight he broke his home in the first round is still awesome with the season. You know? So I don't really judge any of his skill set or or his fighting style off of that last night of when he fights. Rounds one warm. You know, I expect you win, you know, so especially this level, and he almost did, you know? So definitely, you know, I think it had he not had the incident of of a free freak injury with his own being broke. Then I think you know, he would have won that fight for sure. So, you know, he's he's a guy for sure do you ever have to fight with anything broken? I'm always amazed a page van Zandt had that fight where they're left arm is broken. And you can kind of see it when they realize they're throwing rights for two rounds. But I'm amazed. Anybody can can can push through that. And actually finish a fight adrenaline. Or not have you ever had that fight where something really went wrong. Yeah. I've. It was amateur fight to. And I fought I broke my hand in the first round two rounds of one hand, and I have surgery hand. But I actually went to fight somehow. I think the guy was just wasn't that good? I'll be honest now we're able to throw any punches with the broken hand just to not indicate that your hand was broken. I was standing it. A and then I mean, there was a big, you know, skin difference guy. Well, I mean, honestly, you know, he was you know, when you're when you're fighting amateur may, you know, especially back in two thousand nine half. The guys are tomato cans, you know, so it's not like you're you're fighting bar burners or anything like that. Father do one with one hand for two rounds. But I the almost finishing. My literally has zero round game back then I'm out of the guy. And then I let him up. Dropped right hand. I landed in minimum. And then I ended up letting I don't even know what to do. Yeah. It was it where it sucks wish wish I would've been broke my hands and had surgery, and I couldn't finish him been there. But tell quite happen James, let me ask you cowboy before because Cowboys into a sororities into lot of shit as you know, all the extreme sports. And we talk about the Russian the feeling of all these different types of things he does. And yet he says the fighting is the ultimate rush. How would you compare? 'cause I know you so passionate about the hunting. How's the thrill of that the hunt and that compared to like the thrill you get from fighting? He's right for sure fighting is definitely still is still the biggest rush because for one. I mean for me. I mean, raw hunting does take a lot of work, and you have to you know, it does take time to build a skill set. As far as you know, being accurate with with rifles and guns and people who go on and stuff. I mean, those take long time to get get skill sets at that. But it's still fighting men that their journal the rest when you walk. I think you know, how hard you work to get here. And you you know, you just and one of them you're doing funny, you're with your buddies and the other one you're doing it the millions of people. So I mean, it's it's really I mean, I love Honey. But there's no comparison as far as to defining will you have to hunting either you have to catch something there's there's no risk to personal injury. Whereas, you know, fight, you know, guys trying to take your head off. Well, the could be if he misses a shot, and he's got a bore charge charging atom though. Yeah. Maybe on charge. You have to shoot at them. I don't think not. They will they will really, okay. Yeah. They definitely will. I'm yeah. We usually carry pistol or something with the case we missed with that with the with the AARP, and they they get up close piston and shoot have you had that before? Oh one hundred percent. I've been charged a few times by while we shot one in injured. And then we go up there to to to see if it was dead, and they get up and charge. It really is they they really are dangerous animals and they reproduce. They reproduce like cockroaches. You know, they have in North America. They have no natural predators. And like where I live in North Texas. It's it's the biggest population the United States of a while. While things they have to kill about seventy percent of them every year just to maintain relation. They liked to fucking wild. Pigs. Up to two liters a year and with like, you know, eight to ten pig per litter. And and they can start reproducing after only six months of the old Elliot how Jesus how much how much do they way when they're full grown. It depends. I mean, different sizes depends. You know, usually the boys are the biggest because you know, they're they're they've the alpha males go around beating up everyone else taking the food. And then they they're smarter to the boys are, really smart. The big big boars. They a lot of them travel, you know, one or two or even alone. And you just don't you? Don't see you'll see like when I'm when I'm hunting him caught by themselves and stuff, and they're they're sent is better. You know, they're really a assent animal. So you're if you're up win from a hog, you're you're not getting within a mile of it. They're gonna they're gonna they're gonna know the only the only really thing you can do is be down wind from. So they shot one. The biggest one I probably shot was I would say three fifty to four hundred oh shit and. I mean, I I've known of people literally kill five hundred big though. Yeah. The pretty they Harry a wild boars hairy. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Very hurry. Okay. I've seen them before. They're nasty pig. I been withdrawn to fifty there is a different type of thing. Yeah. For me. It was one eighty vehicle. Sorry. Let me ask you, your what do you think a cowboy coming back to the division? He looked really really good against Hernandez. He looked great. He looked great. You know, after I was like man, I would love to fight Sironi all that. But I mean, obviously, I'm not gonna you know, I wouldn't get that opportunity. And you know, what I don't even feel like I deserve it to be honest with you not for him. If it's just if he if he could get the the the McGregor fight. He deserves the McGregor five man. This guy. Put his dues any as the most wins. And you'll see history. He's a big payday like that. So I really hope him McGregor. Get a fights. I do eat a look to buy. I was thinking Kanda wouldn't do anything but fight for a title. But maybe that's just not feasible right now. So for him big name without titles either Nate or cowboy that makes both of those fights makes sense. I would rather see Cowboys. I've seen twice. Yeah. For sure. And you know, they can they can sell it. They can sell the paper view. With McGregor anybody? But with cowboy that's a good sale, and they have history together. So I mean, I hope he gets I think he deserves. I think it'll be a super exciting fight as well. And what do you think about the main guys the Komai Franson Ghana against Cain Velasquez canes? I five crystallised foot. I wanna say twenty fifteen or sixteen. It's gotta be. It's a while you've two hundred I guess he has been double check plagued with back injuries. Yeah. Yeah. It's a it's a real fight warm. I mean, I think if he wrestles he wins simple as that. If he wrestles he wins. If he gets a buddy, but he may get caught before he gets a chance to get anything going as well. You know, I'm gonna souls big until strong and. Athletic, and you know, just a big puncher if he can wrestle he can win if he can get get their entire about the way steep idea or just pressing on the wall and make them work. You know, he can definitely win that fight. If it goes past the the I I would say even the first round, I think he's gonna win that that tell you that Curtis blades fight shock Baotou because the fact that he took hers blades out in the first round you'll like we'll blades going through the same steep. Did he try to put against the cage take him down? And just didn't get the chance to do. It. Yeah. For sure Amami. He's he's he's a Syria. Dangerous. There's a reason why he fought for and he's not as many people as he has. All right. Well, listen, man. Good luck. This is a very very good card. You're fighting Felder co main it so you have see on ESPN gone Velazquez Sunday February seventeenth from Phoenix. And we always enjoy watching. I'll be James I got a I got a ultra sterling fighting. So. All right, buddy. Tell Lloyd I said a low to I'll see him there to them. Sure. Man. I appreciate it. Always good talking him and take care James. By right. Those fun. I like him on his show. He's a really nice, dude. Canes last FAI was UC two hundred. He finished Travis Brown that was July ninth twenty sixteen twice. He's the huntings like a game came for a grown, man. You know, what else is video the vibe throw. It is HTC Jimmy. They had me pinned down in a house last night. Let me tell you. They had pinned down and there was two of them and in your headset headphones. Yes, you hear the footsteps? They felt they had me when I say me, I'm referring, of course, savage in video games. My name's very popular on that. They know me. Sorry, touching it. That's okay. I'm listening. So they had they had be pinned down once come into the outside of the house peeking through the window the other guys get about to come through the door. I'm Ben I'm sitting down in my living room sitting down Jimmy sit down, and they came through at the same time shot one of them with the got the other, man. Man savage. Yes. For the the rapid dinner. And I just want to say, thank you. And I really appreciate it. You know, of course. And you know, I have a good time on there. You do. Yeah. I do Jimmy. But some guys are you in that room just by yourself or the kids watch their there to the right of me there in the living room? And I'm a little off to the side. They're usually playing out there watching the TV, you know, with them but on and I'm kind of in the heads up. Why would I wanna see show me something? Okay. Yeah. Oh, you do a handstand. I watch him. Come back. I go back again. I go back to the game. All right. I had a fun time did to checkout giggle fit run. Funchess especial tourists and James Vicki's fight tremendous and a couple of days pounds. Yes. She will. I will be in may I'll be Rochester and start booking gigs. And I'm just taking a break relaxing a man of leisure bookable cameo. I found that I didn't get back. Then I could suck they told. You forget it also does just doesn't own bookable. I see I didn't get back to apologize. I'm gonna I'm gonna do that Ken money from home. Joe butter with me, why is throwing money around. I don't want to give one. Would you say to chip one? I'll see a couple of days. All right now. Remember to subscribe on apple podcast radio dot com slash UFC, unfiltered for wherever you get your shows, not my business.

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Reuniting With Jason "Mayhem" Miller

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Reuniting With Jason "Mayhem" Miller

"Area Hawaii's Emma may show is presented by modell brewed for those with a fighting spirit. Everyone it's area Hawaii. Hope you're doing well on this Wednesday afternoon. I'm very excited about today's podcast. I speak to Jason Mayhem Miller. It has been almost eight years since I spoke to him. And I'll be honest. I didn't think I'd ever speak to him again. And so it was really nice to connect with him again and to reunite if you will and I'm hoping that you all enjoy the conversation as well before we get to the actual interview. Let me tell you about our good friends over at ziprecruiter. As you know right now we all know how easy it can be to get overwhelmed. Got A lot going on but keep ourselves busy. We have to work. You must work to keep our loved one safe at the protect their communities. We have to work to stay strong. Stay connected and to stay focused and we have to work to inspire to innovate to build new solutions. But for all this to actually work. 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Jalen rose and David Jacoby which then did by state farm and at and T. It's Jalen and Jacoby the after show featuring another good friend of mine director Jason Hare available wherever you get your podcasts and also one last quick were before we get the mayhem Miller. Today's episode contains language that may not be suitable for all audiences so listener discretion is advised your life on Wednesday April. Twenty second two thousand and twenty a logan everyone Mariani welcome back to another episode of the program and as always we are presented by our good friends over at modell. Delo s facia root for those with a fighting spirit so as I said at the top. I'm really excited about today. It has been a longtime seven and a half years to be exact since I last spoke to the Great Jason Mayhem Miller. An og of the fight game a guy who has been around the sport for a very long time but the reason. I haven't talked to him in almost eight years is because for the past almost decade or so he has been in and out of jail he has had a litany of issues with the police in southern California legal issues arrests. It has not been a good time for him but recently I noticed that he seemed to be turning the corner that he seemed to be returning to the old Jason Miller who we all love back when he was in his prime around ten eleven years ago and I thought that maybe this would be a good time to reconnect with him because back when I started my career. He's one of those guys that I spoke to a lot. He was one of my favorite interviews. Colorful fun eccentric. I mean he was just a lot of fun and one of the few guys who actually was able to become a star outside of the UFC eventually made it to the UFC. But he really was a special talent. And we're all searching for nice ways to reconnect and to talk about the passerby. Stahl Jake and with a break in the action right now. I thought this was the perfect time. And I'm really happy that we got to take that you will enjoy before we get to the actual conversation. Though I I can understand that some of you may not be familiar with Jason Miller and what he's been through over the past ten years or so people like. Tst Out there who just started watching mixed martial arts. So here's a quick primer on who this man is. He made his debut in nineteen ninety eight. He started his career. Perfect five in his first loss came in two thousand and two to a young man named chill son. It pre bad guy. She'll senate. He won his first major title in two thousand four when he won the Super Bowl Welterweight title in Hawaii. He made his. Ufc debut in two thousand and five when he fought and lost to the Great George saint-pierre before he became a champion. He lost that fight via unanimous decision he left UFC after that. She has p fight. But that's really. When his career flourished he had big fights against Robbie lawler frank trigg and Tim Kennedy? He wanted the icon sport title in Hawaii again. He had assaulted run in the Japanese based Dream Organization before signing with strikeforce in two thousand a night and that's when he really rose to prominence because the two thousand nine he also began hosting popular. Mtv show called bully beatdown where he challenged bullies to fight pro fighters that show lasted three seasons at really turned him into a big star. In and out of the sport of anime he ended up fighting. Jake shields for the vacant strikeforce middleweight. Title November of two thousand nine and almost. Swath that fight via submission. He ended up losing though via decision in the end perhaps his highest profile win came in September of two thousand ten when he defeated Japanese legend Kazushi Suck Rob via submission at dream sixteen he returned to the UFC in two thousand eleven when he signed to be a coach opposite Michael Best. Bang for the fourteenth season of the ultimate fighter. He lost a spin the finale in December of that year and what ended up being a final live. You have see main event broadcast on Spike TV his next and last. Ufc fight was in. May of two thousand twelve at you have C. One forty six part of the fight. He actually said he retire. If he lost see alway he did in fact lose and was released from the UFC. And that's when life really started to change for Jason Miller He. I found himself a legal trouble in August. Two thousand twelve when he was arrested after authorities found him naked inside a church in Orange County. California the vandalism charge against him was later dismissed in October of two thousand twelve. He was on my show the anime our he was there to promote a film that he was a part of called. Here comes the boom. It's an interview that a lot of people have asked me about since then it was a wild and somewhat frightening interview. Here's a quick clip. From that exchange there are some people who feel like the film here comes. The boom is a little too comedy. I know I know what you're talking about. I read the Internet. Yeah so can you say to those people? Why should they go out and watch this? Don't watch it okay. We want you not only in Borno also right not just areas. How have you cereals Hoani? Have you seen my show before I did my research? Okay do you like it? I think you're hor very nice. No no I just mean you know. There's good we're all. The world is full Timpson. Hose just talking about the ones. I know what I booked mayhem on this show from like one to two. I'm sorry lucky. Patrick Glenn Parade going down the street. Maybe stuck in traffic. Maybe I could get you. Maybe I can patrick from like one to one. Twenty and then mayhem can come on. What do you think there's a lot of what are you negotiating? Yeah Hey man. Listen on my sad when I was directing here comes the belong. Who's comes out October twelfth? When I was on it man we had it all worked out for him. So what are you doing? What do you mean shed break in bugging? No No? He's he's the producers coming out to fix the camera. I think because you've moved a little too much so what you've been on radio before. No no no. No no no no cameras on his actually working. There's no white man come on light. Let's keep Ma'am Ma'am come on man. Let's be real. Let's talk. You came all the way here came all the way here book book. You're going to have the like you know. What do you mean? I did schedule with him. He's yelling at the time. All I'm saying so let's talk. What's going on man about enough this? Are You fucking done done? What's GonNa fuck man has to be honest to be honest with you man? Y'All you guys can fucking stupid Internet radio show. That's it you're going to do this. I know what I'm doing. This is not coughing and bad. Kkk This is your show by so ma'am and we've been through a lot. I'm concerned for you. I want to ask with your fucking crazy lucky patch. This is not the man. This is not enjoyable. This is not your hurt. Your feelings come back come back come back. Come back man right. Now this is not David Letterman. Show US man come on a week. Later I caught up with Jason Miller in Central Park to talk about that. And here's how that interview started. I understand we're starting in the interview. Now with Jason Miller. Yes officially fabric. I'm I'm not sure I did you do. I don't know you to did I. Not There's so much about. I know I know you're bursting and I wanted to call. I wanted to talk to you before all of that here. And now you give me a a whole lot more things talk about actually want to start backwards usually WanNa start you know chronological order. But what was that seriously? What was that? I that you have a narrow view of the same as one on the Internet. You really think I do in a way. And here's why I don't go by opinion going back and the fact is during that interview you cannot accept me as an actor and character and I wasn't breathing. Lucky Patrick would tell you fuck off. This Miller love you to be honest after that conversation. I wasn't all that convinced that he was just playing a character that he was okay. I was happy. We're able to bury the hatchet so to speak. But that's the last time before today that I had a conversation with Jason Mayhem Miller in October of two thousand. Fourteen Miller barricaded himself inside his California home for more than four hours. After Sheriff's deputies arrived to arrest him on warrant related to domestic violence allegations lodged by an ex girlfriend. He live tweeted the standoff in March of Two Thousand Fifteen. He kicked a police officer. Spit at another cop at a restaurant in. Laguna Beach in October. Of Two Thousand Fifteen. He threw ceramic tile at deputies threatened them with a large fire extinguisher. He had to be subdued with a Taser. In January of Two Thousand Sixteen he spray painted graffiti on a wall of Tattoo. Parlor that same month. He cranked up the volume of a stereo in the same tattoo parlor blowing out there speakers in July of two thousand sixteen. He got into an argument with two women. One of whom slapped him in Costa Mesa and he was heavily intoxicated at the time according to police and he also grabbed the woman who slapped him by the leg was detained by security guard until police arrived he returned to fighting in. May of two thousand sixteen to fight for the Italian Assi However he missed weight by twenty four pounds for a middleweight title fight against former. Ufc fighter are not so he then fought someone else day. Mataya Shia veleon and on the card. He was submitted. The second round via rear naked choke has not fought since he fought that two thousand fourteen domestic violence allegation and was acquitted by jury in February of two thousand seventeen of beating up the former girlfriend but other charges involving his conflicts with law were set aside at the time for a separate trial. He pleaded guilty to beating his girlfriend in September. Two thousand seventeen. He was sentenced in November. Two Thousand Seventeen to one hundred twenty four days in jail and released with credit for time served. According to court records. He was arrested again in January of two thousand eighteen when he was found to be in possession of a bulletproof vest and various other weapons. Such as nunchucks knives a machete. An axe a Samurai sword replica salt. What Been According to the probation officers report police also found human growth hormone and various other performance. Enhancing drugs apparently obtained without a prescription in October. Two thousand eighteen. He was arrested for smashing large marble table girlfriends and violating a protective order to stay away from her. According to court records he was also accused of removing doors from the home and derailing the garage door in July of two thousand. Nineteen pleaded guilty to a felony counts of vandalism and a misdemeanor. Count of violating a protective. Stay away order. He was sentenced to a year in jail but was credited with time served. He was later released. In September of two thousand nineteen. He appeared on social media for the very first time in over two years and among the many things that he wrote was apology to everyone that he had affected during what he called a very dark time and he also asked people to reserve judgment on him until he's able to prove that he is a changed man so here. We are several months later. Talking to Jason Mayhem Miller once again to find out if he has changed at to find out what happened over the last eight years or so. I hope you enjoy the conversation. I WanNa thank him and also I want to thank someone on twitter named Joe Daddy Eighty Five. Who has been pushing me to talk to. May Have for the last few months. I appreciate both Joe Daddy and mayhem for the effort. And for of course mayhem for talking to us today. It was great catch up with him and I hope you enjoy it. Did you know that it had been almost eight years since we last interview? Bro? How do you know that facebook memories? I did not count the days down but I figured we'd always see each other once again. You know through a quarantine skype call or glorified one with the better business model You know it's nice to see you. Eight years is a long time. But you know time flies when you're having fun or when you're doing other stuff yes. A lot has happened in those eight years. But I will say during this quarantine and with everything on hiatus I tried to talk to people and reconnect. People are just trying to do different kind of stuff than the day to day. Anime grind last week But talking to you has been something that that wants to do for quite some time and a lot of have asked me. Hey why don't you connect prince for Jason Again and opposite stars in Aligned and the distance Mike all took a global pandemic to a whole world out. An aerial mayhem friends again. Who you see. This is one of the positive by proud drawing us together as Americans. It really should so just curious. Where do you live? Oh I'm in Orange County California report on of course Yep Line Irvine okay. Yeah you know the richest safest city in the entire country. Simon no big deal. And what do you do like what what's your day to day? Life looks like thing about this. Is the uptake am. I may have martial arts dot com traffic and the Jess students that I have now. That are the same way that we're talking right now. Accepting instead of these gamer headphones spiderman posters. It's like a heavy bag and like sweaty clothes in the corner and I don a guy to give me a switch left kick you know. And then stopover and give me a right and then a left Hook and you know we do that for about an hour and these beasts. These warranty beasts will be released because they're just becoming something even though it's just this two way mirror that I'm speaking through. I can mold some martial artists via the Internet. I mean that's what I've been doing. Hold time but now. I'm just distilled it down into its purest form and so may have martial arts dot com. Do a pretty good in the quarantine times. I'm glad that I'm giving us some young fighters like outlet and goal to work towards while. Now everything shutout so you have your own eme. Eighteen actual physical gyms. Well I do I you know. I don't have the physical Jim for the for the right reason because my group is international guys in Thailand guys in Poland you guys in Japan and I got plenty of them right here in the united like good old. Us obey top like half Mexican. Kid I got like heavyweight coming in When the quarantine ends like it's say You know it's one of those things where you're forced to adapt and I don't think many people are really good at napping. But I've done that light. I started my MMA careers like Jitsu. Dude it was slugger type. Highschool wrestling kind of mix. And then by the end of my light Kickboxer SORTA guy were using my claims to But knees and and throw kicks so you always to doubt in a ball? And if I feel like you're doing it a delight your producers doing a bit like there's a lot of people that during this which admittedly terrible terrible time for everybody plot. I feel like there's a big glimmer of hope at the end of the tunnel and we're all running there and so as far as that's that's what you're doing day jobs so to speak. You're still heavily involved in Any pending legal issues or is that all behind alone. I left that life behind I I would like full gangster for awhile and didn't serve me and I'll it didn't serve me well so I may be adjustment. I adapted I changed. I found healthier ways to you know because when I stopped fighting then that was like a giant hole you know I had the injury and and then suddenly there was void and I. I heard about it all the time from guys. I didn't believe it didn't believe it but happened. And you know I went to a dark place now. Not Me and John Law. Get along for the most part. We just Friendly acquaintances these days. Not a bitter enemies. Who who's Oh John? Law You say well talking about minor component. They're all used to jump in on. You know you're gonNA make this fight you're gonNA make this matchup. Hey I'm I'm thinking about it. I already have a fight. Iowan is just true. Friends in Thailand. Have a place called Cope. P You may have known it from where like Leonardo capital shots of babies movie and I. It's just a beautiful man. Look quantity shots down era wanting I gotta get you out to. Kobe be is beautiful okay. you know. It's amazing now that you're not doing now covering anime professionally for fourteen years. I've noticed especially in the last couple of years that unfortunately whatever reason I don't know there's a good reason as to why vistas but I certainly think that this is the thing the newer fans the fans of today don't know about the greats of yesteryear you talk to the legends Chuck Without Between. Belfort and they don't know who these people are that category as well. You're one of the legends of the Sports. Your career started in nineteen ninety eight. I'm going to give a bit of a history lesson year right. Click on. I don't WanNa diminish your comedy but just list sounds little weird but you know what you will about reading anything right now. I'm looking I'll straight off the dome. Yeah nine thousand nine hundred. You started your career. You started five in your first. Professional loss was against a young man named Shale Sunan. Can you believe that? I just didn't know how to wrestle. Like that's the thing I would like new some white guy and this guy just like me into infinity like I just like all right and I just kept getting taken down and just kept it back up and going all right. I'M GONNA kick his head off this all right now. I'm going to try and go all right now. And then. The time ran out and I had them in the craziest light. Eddie Brown Abo- like Shinchosha across his neck and I asked him about it and he told me you have your close because he was gurgling. Know it was an amazing fight like those fights and my young days. Oh my goodness and I hadn't I had never read into a guy with awesome like gel on it like I. I had only run into like you know like a high school wrestler Type Dude. Who Knew Sunau Judit sewer or maybe he's doing old school karate. Imac then we guys who just come straight on karate like learn to learn to wrestle for forty five minutes and then go fight and they were like hard kickers hard punches. But he's had to like learn to avoid in and hit a single leg you know hit a double and or if you get Ended up on the bottom it with the triangle choke and now is the magic recipe but as you progress in the game you. You'll run into an expert wrestler. Who maybe doesn't have much kickboxing as you but light. A do a takedown over and over and over again and yeah that was. That was a crazy Wakeup call to a young Jason Miller. Not yet may have an the. Nfc is founded in ninety three to. You're talking about a guy who started ninety eight. I mean you're there on the ground floor despite the laws you're rolling you end up at Super Bowl in Hawaii. You win the welterweight title. They're they're becoming one of the big names in the sport make it to the UFC and at the time you only have one final UFC. Young man named George Saint Chair. You lose that fight via decision but you don't stick around for another. Why was it one fight for vast you this? This is like boil down to money and respect mostly respect like the money to be made overseas was considerable at the time. Like very appealing for a young guy and I had just got done making that weight which is like the hardest thing I've ever done. I figured you know A. They're going to give me a title shot and Super Brawl. Which at the time was like the hot organization because TV wasn't really a factor so there was like this crazy colt of Internet before you to like trading tapes of Super Bowl and that was like the hard core may fan in those days. You know Rettig group. You know these guys just do that. And so to me the allure of going to a beautiful island right Finding that a comfortable weight after I won the welterweight title and and the communication between the promoter myself in the management. All that like grit a perfect storm for me to head. You know a West and eventually Japan so you go back to Hawaii after that you win the icon. Sport title live great fights against the likes of Robbie. Lawler beat him. Frank trigg You Start Dabbling in Japan. You also fight Tim Kennedy At at fights apart of life I guess died the fight them all the time like. I'm still fighting them. Good my dad always sends me of tweets for the armed is stick together. I'm telling that's right It it it all changed for you in my opinion in two thousand nine. That's when mayhem really starts to become a big name because you signed with strikeforce but you also start hosting bully beatdown on MTV that last three seasons very popular. Show where you get a bullies. The fight professional fighters engage badges. Really Fun stuff and you fight for the vacant middleweight title against Jake Shields. You almost beat on your mobile submitted on CBS. That was open come close. Don't count seconds more. It's funny because like my losses get brought up and the reality is yeah. I lost to the best dudes in the world like those strongest grappler world. You know like and like what it got a decision right I You know it's the same thing. I coached the guys with and a lot of people. Just haven't naturally but I think you can also build it like a mentality that you're always like just one away from winning and if you can keep that positively going then eventually win you know I I had a great wins the my career and if because I learned so much from every loss and so you have strike percents that also. In Japan while dream the Jacques Array flights women. I can't I can't stress this enough when you're in your prime two thousand nine hundred ten two thousand eleven but walkouts the interviews persona the hair the MTV show. You're one of the guys that made me fall in love with them over. I want to cover the sport you know. We're on the cusp though errol like of a different revolution like there's like a new thing kind of happening but all have but. I want to stick with tonight. We'll get we'll get your buyer despite wins losses here and there. I remember I running into you in Las Vegas Ufc Ninety eight. I was not credential. By saw mayhem. Miller of dream walking down a going to the ninety eight which are infamous because your T.'s. Came out wearing the t shirt about the whites and asked you fight mets dream. Where's your press pass or do you want the scoop scoop you'll remember that? Don't I hear you say scoop mcgillicuddy about it? Yeah ally Ariel Hawaiian. I told you because I had already tried like produced television from the inside of those xenos and now now now and I was cracking up because I was like look at this bold aggressive young journalism student. You know like he's just coming right up to me and dog meat at because like back then like I don't know man. Yeah in my prime. Oh my goodness oh just an animal. Like I like didn't care what everyone had to say. Really I would really listen to people and I still don't you get back to the UFC in two thousand eleven You signed to how bill because television expertise. Yeah that you wanted me back over there. I helped them with the ultimate fighter. Yes and so forth and it was great fuck off the bad one visiting abandoned that season by. I like one A pretty much in my head. I won my ability to be a real coach award. I was like Oh my God I can do this like I thought it would be hard because out so bad at waiting tables when I was a kid. I tried one time and I was dead. And you think it'd be like that but it's completely different because each fighter has zone needs and you cannot you can focus on Taylor that to create a beautiful work of art. You know this guy can now. What do a high kick that well and like you know step back and defended take down like he didn't know any of this just a little while ago and now he's busting moves it's very fulfilling. And so that's an interesting season affect your main event. Fight against Michael this thing is is on spike TV airs on Spike TV. In fact it's the last main event ever live event ever to air on spike too. Because they moved on the Fox unfortunately three million viewers which is absurd for cable television Then we move over to the Fox and you get one more fight at USC. Usc Forty six against CPT away prior to that said if you lose the CPU will retire after the fight. You lose. Dana. White says that he has released you because confrontation with Watson and back well. Yeah I didn't do it. Burke said Yeah that's for sure if you WANNA call that confrontation but right before my entrance bird like stops me and tells me that my math doesn't look right and then I gotta take it off and I said why are you hassling me right now. Burt Watson and I realized because somebody's in his ear buzzing 'em the man was telling him what to do but Watson for those that don't know was the man who ran the backstage area for the UFC very instrumental in those days And I remember Review Bela Tor now. Because I mean this is a very he doesn't know he does St FFC and he has his own small promotion but he never rebounded with a big promotion why they feel like he's a very strong talent like it's a very specific talent. The you have to have to do Bert. Watson's yelling in the back job. Bad like a booming voice very nice friendly demeanor and like because you're in there with like the toughest dudes in the world. Maybe the meanest some of them so it takes the real like showman Albert Watson To control the backstage like that so no hard feelings towards him down. No okay I'm glad to hear that I remember a couple of days. After that fight you came on my show at the time it was called the Ama our. You're very sombre. You said that you were going to retire. And it was really around then. We're talking about the summer of two thousand twelve where I feel like things started to change for you. You start to go down a different kind of passing. You just alluded to that with the career being over You don't know what to do and that was the first time that you kind of found yourself in legal trouble right. You're found in that. Church is one of those weird things were like you know. I've spent my life being a monk and cut weight and getting ready to fight spam all twenty why a regular people were like going to college and experimenting and Yeah I went to college real late vessel the trench delirious to be honest like I didn't sleep for days and then I just woke up and what I thought was. My house was at my house and I get plastered all over the damn headlines You know what I'm saying. Naked in the church AU- brutal brutal but it's like ten years ago. Feels like maybe a hundred I've changed so drastically since that time but I was living a life where I just took. The governor off dislike full-on like try to see what kind of crazy stories that I could get into all the time and look we all WanNa have like amazing crazy stories in our life at least a couple but I just was collecting a day by day by day by day and just nothing was fun to be so I just kept pushing harder to have more fun and I buy against it. I- buys against it. You know there's a balance in life and I. I guess it just took a lot of Bah. Those problems to set me back balance When you say you were delirious they didn't sleep why are you doing? I ran for twenty eight miles outside. I never train for a marathon but I figured I could do it and my body was in good shape at the time so I just did another big mistake but you know I felt like I had to do it like I put my mind on. Something I- truck this nearly thirty miles. I could do it. I run this pch. Why we sad sad a man of injured they churns company said they were not going to pay for nothing. I all right. We'll find. I gotta saw everything in my life. Now what because I don't want to go into medical debt for the rest of my life so all right here what else you know. My management is gone. All my friends are gone. The reality of the situation you know. Of course. You're going to be sad moods just a reality situation and you know if you if you walk the my shoes. I guess you'd understand a little bit more. But we were all limited by our own perspectives. Now I understand the story of the fighter who comes to the realization that the career is over is a story that is often told your career's over but also your you know you're on the hook for so it's your fault there. You go but like wait a minute. I thought were insured now. We're not not not for you. So that happens in August and in October. A your guests on my show him. Our Studio Down South is a beautiful performance. So so for those. That don't know your your guest to promote the show the movie excuse me here comes the boom starring Kevin James. Your character in the film underrated here comes. The bow was have a a nine point five on rotten tomatoes no IMDB K. It really should. It should be. I mean. It's better than mall cop one mall to it's better than the mall cop part three two. They're probably GONNA come out with any day now if Kevin James Best work most emotional and MMA. It's a fun one But you you might Oscar your character. Lucky Patrick in that film and in the interview. You're playing like Patrick. And it gets a little cheated and you throw the camera. You couldn't hundred lucky Patrick's like internal rage like you just couldn't disseminated usually. You're so good about being the Barbara Walters. Obama May and really getting guys to open up like a flower. But you know here's the thing too. Is it lucky Patrick never really made it as a firefighter made it as a tough guy on the streets so he was just like you know low level ever made by? Maybe that's why you could peel back like onion but in all honesty were you a hundred percent okay during that interview. No not okay. My whole life was in shambles right and I didn't WanNa talk to you. I wanted you to talk the Lucky Badger and okay. So that's why you came as the character I mean. There's no nothing for Jason Miller to talk about right. Well Ice House retirement. I is this a simple question. That's like day one question. That's not Arowana level question where you intoxicated Matt Really. Maybe like the days previous. I tried to like keep a rare with you. You know. Keep a clear head while it's doing that crazy stunt like I knew it was going to get weird. I didn't know how weird it was going to get. It just got to the next level but on the way out of your studio as I stormed out angrily. I gave a wink to like the cutest black lady. Like who's an office over there? And like everybody was congregate around because they saw and I just they were. They were mortified. You Lady knew that I was just fucking around and not mentally ill but the rest of the guys thought otherwise. I understand it became huge news. I'm you till this day. People ask me about that interview concepts on thousands of interviews down. I get asked about the mayhem. Lucky Patrick interview and we we met up again exactly a week later in central park we had a long taught. And that's the last time we spoke parts today. That is wild regular. Here's the thing even in that interview where we sort of Peel back the curtain and we talked about the incident. Honestly I didn't feel like you're one hundred percent okay. I was so mad. Why was I mean the aforementioned you know failure to pay medical? Bill is kind a big deal. Yeah you know and you know I was expressing myself it albeit a somewhat. You know not helpful to myself way but I felt like I needed to say something and I said it i. I've always been that way and I tried to build her out the not fit for consumption television right but it's hard. I speak from the heart. Did you ever get that cleared up that medical bill? Yeah baby how much was it? Well it depends on who you ask. Sign somewhere between a quarter million dollars and then I probably would. It really cost like hundred thousand okay and so we know who knows would buy insurance company right in a number right right right I remember saying to you that day and I remember. You're eating at yogurt. Remember a lot of things about that. Germaphobe says. You could probably magic drain this hemming. I'm not exactly you drop like your fourth on the ground you pick up. You kept eating it. You're not concerned about that. I can't believe he's still you'd with saint during the interview I snatch. Somebody's watering and drank it. Yeah SO RANDOM. 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Sal Within reach modell brewed for those with a fighting spirit drink responsibly. Beer imported by crown imports in Chicago. Illinois loved modell support them because they support us now back to Jason Miller two thousand thirteen to two thousand nineteen. I mean a lot has changed for you since arrested Multiple Times you had the incident in. I believe two thousand fourteen or fifteen where you're live tweeting police standoff for four hours and I don't WanNa go through every single moment. We'll be here all day man. The thing will run over Do our the reality is that I was feuding with the police. Why you'd want to talk about it. I mean so many reasons like it just became personal like couple of incidents here and there and they have so much resources they can just leave somebody outside a house all the time you know and so again you know my life has been a fight like I'm always I always needs somebody defeat and I you know I picked them as an opponent and those terrible mistake and the reality is is that you can't do that. You know bad time made sense. I felt I felt like they besmirched me and I was You Know Challenging Authority now. I understand now they importance of it by the time I didn't you also had Multiple domestic violence incidents with the same as well. I mean multiple different like I got a pair of pigment classes and some have learned. Is that even though? You're not doing anything wrong. You can be the person to incite an escalate and it doesn't help you in any way but if you're you know tied to calm conflict you you thrive on Conflict. You can escalate. You know the family situations to a point where somebody lose their temper and can't bound and then what do you do in this situation? I've learned that you can only control your actions. So you remove yourself in the situation or you are you know. Get Out You GotTA learn to coexist and I feel like this is a lesson. Everybody's learning right now would would Gobert that We all need to like be responsible partners and friends I. I've learned so much about the dynamics of relationships in the past year that man. I don't know why would you know? I got in trouble for headlock in my sister. Why why do I have to escalate a tense moment? Why what is it about me? What did they inside me? It makes me WANNA react to conflict with more conflict and ever since I've learned that like my default setting is to needle into light. Have a comeback for everything is juvenile. It's ridiculous I don't have to do that all the time. I don't I don't have to fall back into my old Fighting ways where are you going to take me? I'm GonNa Right back like best you know. I just continue that I carried over that scale into another realm of my life and it took me. You know as part of a larger problem you know that I had just about life in general and how time heals all wounds. I guess 'cause I feel I feel like the best version B. B. How old are you now? Damn near forty when you are involved in those incidents I would imagine because I know that a couple times found with drugs of that nature where you have Leonardo's Lewis of never bomb drugs as we call marijuana drug marijuana. Opiates you know I did I did dabble in that and really was a catastrophe. I feel all those people at the OPIOID epidemic. I was delirious when I took that stuff just couldn't think straight couldn't get together. You know like just. There's some Obama biology where I'll just like I can keep moving forever by hall man like your. Your brain is foggy. You know you wake up in a cell like that's the only thing they have for you. If you're having a problem like that you know and in many places. I recommend anybody that like goes into that. Does with the wary wary head. You know because you can get delirious is true. Where are you taking that stuff? Because her body was in pain. Because of I look I it was one of the things were you know what I mean like what I'm GonNa do. What am I GONNA do? They prescribed them because I was damaged hurt. That's the reality of fighting career. Is that if you do a long enough? You'RE GONNA end up with something some kind of wear and tear and yeah and there is in the right place but it just spun me off to a bad one. You know as I really I really. My heart goes out to anybody dealing with that of their family bill at that. It's it's it's a real. It's a real thing to real problem and I understand why why people have problems with them. I thought you said about You know having a an opponent with something you're so used to announce the cops rear opponent. What about The ideas like the music stops writer crowds popular fighter. Did you miss likes getting involved in these incidents? Live team standoff. Did you like that tension? It was the closest back fighting here. Sold out arena in a way. But like you're you're following my logic like too far you're like I do you know I didn't think that far. Be through but you know I was passionate about a use of that was wrong and and I I got I felt a little Political Bent to the whole thing. Because I feel like I don't want America to be a military dictatorship and I I don't want it to be like some corporate war-scape you know where each individual militia the Walmart. Militia takes out the starbucks militia. You know I want that to happen in America. I don't think that'll founding fathers had in mind and I. I don't think it's fair to populist. So I I guess I make an misinformed statement about it. I remember seeing feature on. Hbo Israel Sports they had a segment on the won an Emmy No. They had a segment about domestic violence and Jason Editing Monster. Ruin my life worth. I know edited to make you look like I beat the shit out of Christy Mack. That is not true. No you did not that. That was war-machine jonkoping either. But it did seem very tense with the the reporter but also the surroundings in which the interview happens. Where was that? That was very scary to see you in that in that setting. It seem like you're not living healthy. Lives Nah I just wanted to show the world how scary my life was like. That was the reality of my life at that time. Scary weird girls like hiding in the bushes like chess. Negative like I did everything wrong to see how to do stuff right. I always learn the hard way. If you're going to be dumped it'd be dumped. What was in your opinion? What was the lowest point? Was Rock. Bottom? This is it right here. I mean come on what am I doing? Coming Back Groveling Arowana. I'm sorry that I knocked her toys over twenty years ago. No it's not that this is the lowest point can't be this. Maybe this is my highest point everything about that. Maybe after. This is all downhill bro. I'm just fucking laying in the gutter waiting for somebody to kick me down do you. You remember how many times you arrested Nano like a thousand and you jails per bra. I was in like the famous section of the jail like with the Denver to cut. Somebody's Weiner off neither like schizophrenic. Like murdered family guy. Shot everybody at the party. Another guy who murdered his wife 'cause he's cheating on him another guy like Shot a little kid because I he's a gang member in the shootout with another guy while you're jail. Do they know who you are. Yeah everybody knows me. I was running workouts in there like this. You know I just adapted. Those allies like most lifelike. Neither box small box icebox these fit in makes a damn annoying sound on date lights. Never turn off David. Wake up every thirty minutes Banging on the door check of your alive how Jeffrey Epstein Got Away with and how long the longest time was at a year. They spent their more two years less but in there. Okay what was ever a point where you felt like you couldn't take it anymore. You knew eventually you get out. No but I knew that like today the new day. Time to do something you know. I did very disciplined for twenty years of my fighting career. I think I can be disciplined enough to pretend that. I'm on a spaceship flying through earth lying across the galaxy and I do push ups pull ups squats shadow box. Thirty minutes watch any Williams. Stupid conversations You know what I mean every once in a while get lucky watch allen do a little dance you know and then I'll go run on the yard for an hour straight yeah it was like Spartan lifestyle read books you know I I read like five hundred some odd books In there for sure and some of them weren't even comic books and did you alone. Yeah I was like Anna Segregation like Mega administrative segregation. Where you have to be like in a cell by herself which I mean. I guess that's like the Hilton was like yeah is food. I mean Sorta the food and what you would call food or any civilized human. But all right I mean Nice thanksgiving Christmas new years cookies off the J. So the last time you were released from jail in two thousand eighteen was last year you that was it was in July or September of two thousand nineteen. Yes July to lie and then you emerged on social media. It's a timber you had not posted anything for around two years and the message was. That was the first time I was like. Wow you're starting to sound like the old Jason Miller that I met many moons ago I just want to read one. Quick thing that you wrote there he stuck with niece You said I'd like to take this opportunity to apologize to everyone that negatively affected during the start time cleaned friends family law enforcement. The I was talking about you who who might have abandoned for far along. I'd sorry. Are you apologetic. Like yeah brought lifted. I is kind of a black eye in the sport pro while because like I just went turned it up so extreme like I just went to another place with with all my thoughts and actions man. That's no way to live like there's no way to keep friends is no way to like build an amt. Byerly can't do that with you. Just gotTA spin hot fire. Everybody all the time you now at just going outside of humankind to accomplish something. That's not. There's no way to do that. New may have. He's a likable. Basser was the turning point. Well I sat box for a long time. And I'll say this is that I finally had some like host incarceration treatment. You know what I mean like Like therapy in like to figure out why we went this dark path before. And you know since I've done that I feel like a new person and it's funny that you read that because even from bat time because I was really traumatized just the reality is that you come out of a box for year. And you're you know different now like and the and the world has moved on in this year and it's like overwhelming to adapt to and I see why we're citizen rates are so high because you have no guidance usually and finally a lucky enough that you get a good judge and the judge figured out that. Hey look. This guy is having a problem. He needs some type of treatment when he gets out of here. But you know he made me sit there for a long time and once you reassess if you have this quiet to do it you know moments quiet. You reassess the complete way that you've looked at the world I don't I commend it for anybody. But if you're brave enough you can do it. Did someone in particular help you like what you signed a guidance counselor. Psychiatry Yay accident. The therapist there was very like entail yet. Barry She's pretty educated like very intelligent person like you could tell that like Whatever field manual. She's reading from top of that. I I suppose the other people that you've talked through throughout the day Ma'am. They have a different jacket. They have a whole different in my section. Have a whole different List of crimes. You know serious wants so I think that that was part of the reason. It was easier for her to get through to me when you are in your prime. Were you taking any kind of medication like did you? Did you know that you had any kind of mental illness? Well of course I got AB HD. Come on how many times. I spun off but Jadu the testing your. You weren't allowed to take anything for that so in all aware without because if not certified by the drug testing agency you know. I'll be delirious time at home like not a now. All the way focused. Are you taking anything for that now? Yeah so got me on a regular schedule and like you know. This is part of my life. Do you feel better you taking it. Yeah definitely I like feel more lucid clear Focus for sure. You know that that science do. Are you diligent about taking the medication? Yeah yeah that that's a common thing I hear is that people don't make they go off. And then you know I I know this I feel like Anybody WHO's Adding a touch of mental. Anything you know can identify. Did you feel at any point like Ma turned on you like? Did you feel like you gave them a male shorer for sure that mentors for sure of course health popped up at everybody but you know like because at look everybody understands now that you know? I'm a legend in sport but at the time was just some angry guy who just lost the fight and the the crowd just sees what your latest fight it is you know they only remember what just have recently so you know they they turn on me. I said `I'm turn it on you. And that's why I gave the jerk interviews. Hbo Guy Because I was mad about the whole situation that I could get a get dumped off like that. That's you know that's like a hard reality. Learn you know and Yeah I do. I regret some of out for sure. But you know it's in the bathroom. The best me. Are you still mad at the sport like you still not totally not I gave up? I gave that up like a long time ago because I had other stuff to worry about. You know in the meantime to even though I did get in trouble a lot and I did. I was like you know Hustling this that you know business in others just I still coach guys throughout this crazy period. So a lot of people have wild stories about about my about me. Hold pads are doing something you know off-color but it's all it's all gob smiling stories these days a couple of times. You're facing like twenty years in prison. You always cut up. I don't WanNa take out lucky but you've got to let you know that that's part of the system there. Ariel dam sure privy to where they stack the charges against you. So you know every little thing you do. That's another year now the enhancement. You know the California law that way a bit like now. They can bargain because they got. This is a twenty year crime for escaping the cops for a minute and then then caught and then escaping again and got caught again. That that's like eight felonies right there. Something you know what? I mean incident that you and I as ever made fans will look at as house nice scramble bats felonies. I'll just curious when you were facing bees. You know multiple years in prison but were you scared. Were you nervous? Yeah but no like I. I had bat reality. Same as a fight right. If you lose a fight it'd be terrible but you have to like make sure that you know how to deal with it and I just figured I'll deal with it when it gets here. You know the same as a fight and you know of course it affects you but yeah I really think the anime a turn the rest of my stressors down in the midst of all of this back in two thousand sixteen. You did take one more fight. You had one other fight outside dollar fight and you showed up twenty four pounds overweight twenty eight twenty eight twenty eight pounds overweight for a middleweight title contract. Dry Out just pay the money on there but I mean did you just thought I just learned how fun never been to Italy in. I mean I've been appalling and Russia and Japan and Brazil and outfight island but I had never been to Italy and I just wanted to see a couple of things over there. You don't have any aspirations fighting ever again right. I don't know man. All My students are telling me that. Oh my goodness that. I'm just like world class right now so I mean what is GonNa know in the heavyweight. Nah Nagano Japanese guy. Different go I don't know just kidding. I'm just kidding. I was tired of the Ghana. Okay I'm out by like two three hundred seventy five dollars okay. What would you miss most about meeting fighter man? Well the simplicity where you just have to think about what's funny like I get that in training but it's different it's being selfless and now as a coach versus being selfish as fighter because you. Kinda just have to like work on your whole game all yourself. The your your coaches are helping. You obviously by really comes down to what efforts you put it. What were you when you your happiest as a fighter like what was the high point of your career in your opinion thing maybe when I kick jock right in the face and like spray blood all over to Japanese fans. I think that was the best time. Yeah I'll keep them covered in blood just ran. The referee is telling me. No No fucker fucker. 'cause telling him fuck you. Yeah I got a reset happiest right now but may be my favorite photo of all time. Involves you At it was taken by the Great Esther. Lend them yes it was after you submitted. Kazushi Sacramento Bonds in two thousand ten. And you you were battling over him and there's a light above it's almost like a soul man. God Leslie I got down like you know. That's just one of those things. Where like fine art intersects with pop? Culture SORTA THING. Yao It goods the the skill that to like. Make this perfect shot. Just I duNNo. She's just magic. That esther the for you. That was a big deal to fight Japanese legend in Japan. Soccer above the and one in that one specifically. Because if you don't remember like million years before that choked out rampage rampage spring yet but right after that fight. I literally watched that bite spy rampage like a week later like in California. We started being buddies because of you know that that first stop for training camp with Tito Ortiz. Up in big bear and We all I just legendary time to be a fighter. We didn't even call it anime back. Then you know and years later when I had opportunity to buy like Robinson deathly Oh my goodness I'm getting back for rampage by also. I was so like inspired by that. Man How creative grappling was how he would scramble. And you know what I mean. And how he beat Gracie's dislike just gutted it out to me all that was really inspiring as a binder. So you know the beat him. I was very ankle. Blessed blessed you watch may I jump back in like four feet in the past like Arnold five months? I'm Dan I'm pretty stoked I'm pretty stoked about. I don't have my favorites yet but I'm pretty stoked about the sport I just got back into it so I'm a new fan to everybody when you didn't like when you're in jail you watching it or totally at all. They had a couple of free ones on there didn't they while inside and we did watch them And then whenever a big show big pay per view all the guards would ask me. What's my pets? They would back Nha let based on my man. This is a damn underground economy right here. Yeah and then I. I WANNA pack a Rama noodles of Tito Ortiz Chocolate Dell the one recently the last one yes. But isn't that isn't that like for you. Was that wildlife. Here you are watching talking about the. You're there you're fighting at MGM Grand. You were fighting at Saitama. Terrible DECISIONS IN SOCIETY WON'T STAND FOR IT. I don't blame him. You Know I. I was making terrible decisions. Yeah you know I heard about George burst my business and then inside the house in Dungeon at that point a dungeon they had me in a dungeon errol like sixties all day in like six split box at because I was like I dunno jerk to somebody somewhere so they house name this like. Oh my goodness just on nightmarish place. You'd think the County Monte Cristo is in the basement for how long house there for a while only to a worse basement so it was a months and months and months brought six blocks from the bar stood up you know like old school bars gudgeon. So like solitary confinement. No it's it's Segregation by like you could reach out of the bars and like hand each other stuff. It was like a different kind of segregation wasn't like I wasn't in light the X. Men jail which I would later go words like a plexiglass wall. I was in like manner sewer. I don't know I don't know what it was but it was. It was a very dangerous place but Jason in all honesty like for someone who has some kind of mental illness to be stuck like that. That's dangerous right the America America. Ofri how did you? How did you overcome that? How did you get through Dallas? What what were you thinking about? What were you doing? I guess it's just different like a coping mechanism to deal with you know exercise a good one. I read and studied a lot. That was the thing that I got angry. And said I'M GONNA COME? Outta here so much smarter than it'll be worth it. And maybe I did. Maybe been the jury still out by do know a lot of factoid these days and you know a lot about Mongolian Empire Definitely Liens. And where did you study? Well you know I learned about China through one Called the Thousand-year MARATHON I remember. This one was like kind of instrumental because I didn't look that China as an thing by you know where my company produced but I got more into the geopolitics of of the situation. That an understand what they're doing right what we're doing wrong and what we're doing wrong. They're doing right right so you say you just read a lot. How did you get these books is a library? Had A lot of support out there from people that you know they knew they are and I appreciate it so much man. It was amazing because without that my brain would turn to mush. You know because there's not much going on and they're like yeah. It was It was crazy man. I got so many stories of all those murderers I named you. I don't know why over there in that section but that was the high-profile section met some interesting characters. They're Erawan. I'll tell you that much by ever raised book saved my life. I'll just oh man. I even like could read Spanish now. Yeah I'm not very good at speaking but I can understand it now. It's pretty. That's a pretty useful skill here in California because you're a pro fighter that anyone ever try to test you. How'd that go okay to that happen a lot? Okay not something you want to talk about Nas. Fine No Interestingly enough last Friday was the ten year anniversary of the Nashville Brawl on CBS. Is that crazy? Oh Oh my God. Years ago. Y'All that was a blast. You know I didn't know what all the hubbub about. I didn't even know why everyone was angry at me. I'll they thought we're GONNA do this. Reimagined out okay does not that. The biggest regret of your career. That you never got anywhere. Donald Roller that you didn't get the Nikki. S fight garbage delays. And you know what I mean. It's here's the thing though. I think we're both by getting tired of this but I think he's got like a young dude can fight my young dude. I feel like that would be hot and we're in talks. Somebody's in talks with them right. Now Okay Yeah. That would be a nice wine to like. Let's let's fire back up. The rivalry united made years later ten years later fire. Backup MC Diaz. You got any guys what's up you. Have you ever talked to somebody? Not I'm talking a long time ago. I got got wild with the damn bar though. I think you bury the hatchet. But I'm rated digging backup backup. I feel like we have some good shows this this guy if I if I know about those news up there. They're trained hard all done. Are you still close with any of your friends? Emma may fighter friends for back in the day or do you have friends around Horwitz somewhere around here. I I dunno where he'll show backup sometime but yeah a lot of the newer guys came in. So I've been friends like the next generation. Now got somebody out there at Conor McGregor team. Who's training right now? You know I I. It's like a new wave. You know a friends in anime but yeah feel friendly would would most any but I. I don't think I have beat personally. Would with anybody. Maybe maybe like one or two that I don't know okay. You just saying it like it could be a one or two people who'd be. Maybe I'm like no one. Doug do right the pass. It depends grab pretty. Sure everybody pretty cool man. What about your family? Are you still contact with them? Too Much Sometimes Amami. Send me so much beautiful. Little paintings that she done like. Oh my God my love these but okay. I love okay. Even more never mind keeps an opinion survey by the way who gave you the mayhem. Nickname baroni event that yeah the NY BA who still out there like kick ass and more with that August. We're what we're watching ROBOCOP. I could be wrong. I don't remember what movie was but I was. I had just launched into one of my tirades about this that the other you know how. I'm pretty good at complaining. And he just like flipped over on the couch after train me skies full Chimera and I was. I actually just saw bill in Albuquerque Office. Staying at the Jackson wake. Jim Tried to figure things out so good to hear that he was the one that gave you i. I didn't know if I I don't know if I ever do that. Sorts out so so you have had a situations in the past. We've come on you've apologizing you're back on track wise now different. You can do it on now. I don't if I ever apologize. Nah I did so what was different now. Man I feel great man martial arts dot com taken off. Everything's falling into place like this lake and it's like it's been a wild ride. You know I'm not GonNa lie and you you just alluded to it by reading my rap sheet America. But I'll tell you this is that Ma'am. I never really looked at older. Dudes were respect and now have such a deep respect for anybody even six months older than because like it just takes time to learn things in process and learn how to deal with yourself and I. I bought a winning track right now. I'm just I just feel honored like I just feel honored to be man. Wow that's amazing. I have to say you know like I said at the top. I really didn't think we'd ever talk again and This is worn by heart. I thought we would. You know go in separate directions honesty. I thought maybe in jail and the worst of all baby is here. Maybe because it was scary a limited. Everybody apologized everybody I did. I went too far a winter far all the time. And I'm sorry for that airline hope we stay in contact. You know touch base especially when this thing. Let's up off of us right so that we can break down next big fighting. See who was GONNA win? Can you guarantee now that you stay out of trouble that you will love your arrested again incidents? I appreciate your concern. Yeah I'll be okay. I'm here I promise nothing dog but yeah I feel great man I. Everything's going good. I'm happy here that Jason. Good to talk to get my friend. I wish you best mayhem. Martial Arts Dot com where people can see more of what you're doing you're back on social media back tweeting back doing your thing. And I hope that you're able to develop the next young crop of fighters that remind people about what made you so special is a fighter. Honesty's it's great to talk to you. It's great to to see you again and I really appreciate your Janus at thanks for bearing with me as a rehash some not so precious. I look as soon as I could. Stop talking about the bad part of my life so much. Better thank you all right once again. Thank you very much to Jason Miller. Never thought I talked to him again and it was nice to reconnect and I feel from that conversation hour or so long a I feel like he is in a better place. It sounds to me like we're we're starting to see the reemergence of the old Jason Miller. Pray that is the case that he no longer finds himself in trouble on that he gets the help that he needs. He stays on that That regimen of taking his medication Because I can't stress this enough in his prime around eleven or so years ago. He was a true talent. Ed He did a lot for the sport of Maine. It's great to see that. He's trying to give back now and training fighters so we wish her the best and I really appreciate him spending some time me today. I enjoyed that all right now. Time for everyone's favorite segment of the week presented by our good friends over modell setting the gold standard for authentic Mexican Beer. Since one thousand nine hundred. Five modell brewed for those with a fighting spirit. It's time now for this. Gst's minimalist tip of the week Mayhem Miller. I enjoyed learning autumn today. I'll get interview true false prior to today. You had no idea who may. Hiller was absolutely no idea. I mean most of the time that you tell me you can touch me today for the show. Hey this is what I want to have on most time. I have to do a quick Google search to figure out who the heck you're talking about and when you started to do your research about him what did you think well. The first thing that came up was your interview with a lot that you referenced many times throughout the show and me being friends with you. I was quite offended by what happens in in quite understand what having some still very new to this combat sports world of everyone playing characters and sticking characters sometimes never leaving their characters and so I was very offended by an I felt bad ten years after the bacteria to the point where you almost felt like. Why are you having the sky on right? Yeah I was like why does he wanNA have long like I felt? They were so disrespected in that moment and I kind of view that you wanted to go talk to him again after that I mean he wants your set in New York and kind of like. Yeah he climbed on your desktop equipment disrespecting whether you're playing character nuts and it's Kinda rude so I was offended. Well I appreciate that but in the end I hope you enjoyed it and learnt a little bit about one of the game as we like to say and I am genuinely happy to hear that. He's OK that he's in a better place and I hope that that remains I do too so getting to This week tip so as we are all learning throughout this quarantine. Thank minimalist are kind of well braced for this light because so many people are finding out what is essential essential items meanwhile minimalist become. You know the whole time. So that's why I want to tie this into like minimalist fitness routines to a gym. Where you don't have access to all the equipment the treadmills or the dumbbells or the last holdout machines. I've kind of been bracing for this my whole life because I'm a great homework cow guy so obviously of course you know you can go rhino area. No you go for Rod. You got this whole Wani. Boxing thing going on which I consider that a workout. You say that you're you know some hero for getting people active. I think it's kind of nine exercise heading out myself a hero. I've never call myself a hero. I'm just trying to get people moving a little bit. I mean what's what's better that or you know being on the couch playing video games and stuff. Listen stuff about playing video games. But it's no. It's no calories. Shred or like real shadowboxing shadow boxing rate on your part today great staple about working out at home so what? I suggest my minimalist workout is. If you're getting home is put a timer on eighteen minutes. Twenty minutes twenty five minutes thirty minutes. Whatever you're feeling whatever you've got in the tank and so a great man was routine involving no equipment just your body. It's amazing what you can do with the body so say you do an upper body say push ups or you can be very resourceful in your home made you have a little table that you can do synthetics on or you know you need a way maybe have a breaking your backyard cinderblock in your backyard. I myself have used a cast iron pan as a weight in the past. So say you do in upper body workout a lower body workout. Mason swats me watches. You know maybe with a household item or not an end maybe some core ward or some kickboxing wherever it made you do. X. Amount Reps who say I'm GonNa do this amount of so we. Do you do your upper body lower body core your three to four workouts in rapid succession in the amount of Reps. That you're going to do then. You take a thirty second break in between your set of all those workouts when they get back at it and you do that for your allotted time. You're eighteen twenty twenty five thirty minutes. That's my favorite at homework out. But of course there's many other things to do with abbe equipment without jams and I think people are going to come out of this quarantine realized that this is a big win for minimalism. That people are learning. That maybe. Don't need all these fancy bells and whistles to be fit or always fancy bells and whistles to do other things while despite your your unnecessary shot at me. I do agree. I do think that a lot of people are realizing in all facets not just working out like little things like oh you know what maybe. I can't cut my hair and save thirty dollars every time. I don't try to take any business away from Barbara's but I do think people are reinventing the way they look at their lives and changing up certain things so that's very interesting also. Speaking of minimalism Can help notice? I was scrolling through twitter recently and I stumbled upon your on and off again twitter feed. And you have to shout to podcasts. Which I think is great and I'd like you to give them a shadow right now but what was interesting was you said this is the best podcast that. I've heard in quite some time and I thought well that's funny because here's a podcast producer of mine like my podcast producer. Save this the best podcast. He's quite time I figure. He listens by PODCAST. Felt like a bit of a shot. Am I wrong wrong for feeling that way? No No it was no shutting you. I will just say that on my own time on my own podcast listening time and of course I listen to all your shows. Yes but more so not for you but just to make sure that item editing up right right so I was in on my own time to shows like this one in particular this was Jeanie kills inspire us for some. I listen to spy guys. He's pretty well known comedian. I gather by the way she gamma fan. Yes yes he was on Joe Rogan show so I found that out about so big guy but he had on his most recent podcasts Ryan Nicodemus. Why reference on the show last week? He is a famous on my minimalist. He's one of my. Inspirations for minimalism and so I wanted to hear what he had to talk about. And they conversation that Ryan and Jamie had wasn't amazing commission. I mean the best podcast. You've heard quite a bit. I mean maybe the mayhem one rivals dead or different right different but I will say that one of your It is not specific. Show but your podcast APP. So your interview that you did with Dan Levato on South Beach sessions. Net is one of maybe like five podcast in my life. I've listened to multiple times sold multiple times. I've listened to that trying to get to know your story while yard way. What wow Would you say that? That's what you realize you know what here. I am getting to work with this guy. I should really be appreciative of this. I mean this is a special talent. Who's been through a lot and has seen a lot of experience a lot? Is that something that went through your mind? Sure let's go all right. I'll take that. I mean after multiple insights very vulnerable during this time you know. I'm just trying to help people out with my Hawaii boxing gear. Which by the way you could get on Libor? Calm the brother of Dan Laboratory. Did you know that an brother is a great artist? And he designed that shirt for me in all. The proceeds are going to feeding America so go to LIBOR DOT COM right now to The purchase at one hundred percent of the proceeds. Stomaching a dime off of any of this trial. I'm trying to do good for others as you have taught me to do and I feel like together we are. We are making a difference on this planet. I want to throw a here some more more good words here. A Five Star Review. It is titled. I don't know who it's he didn't lead he or she did not leave name. But it's called minimalist review of the week. Wow says area good talker interview skills. Good questions lame boxing. String but still audio call. Good good tips. No intro five thousand times. I think that's the shot of corporate. Jake he's not a man but still good the show nine out ten ten out of ten with Rice. I don't know what that means. But thank you for your minimalist review of the week. It's appreciate it. Did you write that. I did not. I would like to know who did. Yeah well done. I appreciate that. I appreciate other reviews and I urge you all good or bad to leave a serve. You we obviously appreciate the good ones a little more. Leave us a five star review your thing download all that stuff more and we hope that you are enjoying the content that we are putting out during this downtime by the time the US he returns if in fact they do return on. May ninth that of course. The car took a bit of a hit earlier. This week of the man that Nunez pulling out it will be almost two months a large break for the UFC but not large if you look at other sports and You know hopefully everything is safe and sound and healthy. I think sometimes distance makes the heart grow fonder and I think The break will prove to be a valuable one for the AFC. They can get back on track so we shall see right now hearing that the event will take place in Jacksonville Florida. So we'll see if they could pull it off for now though. I think we're out of time. Are you cool with that? You call me senator. Tst May have frozen up on my screen here. But I think I'll just keep going. Why the Heck Not all right. We're out of time. Thank you very much to all of you for listening. Thank you very much to all of you. For Tuning in downloading rating subscribing reviewing all that stuff more and most importantly. Thank you very much to Jason Mayhem Miller. 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Ep. #3104 with guest Daniel Cormier, XFC results, UFC 1 anniversary, more

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Ep. #3104 with guest Daniel Cormier, XFC results, UFC 1 anniversary, more

"Title roll baby on may junkie radio with gorgeous georgia go. This is what we do in why we do it baby. We're covering ma from all over the world. This is the premier stop for all your combat. Sports needs mma junkie radio from the mandalay bay resort and casino in the fight capital of the world. Las vegas nevada. The lights are on at the mike. Sir hot it's tied to get your ever may fixed junkies take it away. Big john gorgeous george goes. Are you ready junkie. What is junky nation gorgeous. George and goes reporting for duty here on a thursday november twelve. If you're all doing well out there this is alive showing and we'll be with you for the next hour. I say that because we came from the podcast world. And we've been we've dipped out but not we're live mondays and thursdays noon eastern nine pacific at least an hour trust us will go along. We have to. It's going to be a fun show. Today will recap dana. Why contender series. Which took place on tuesday back on tuesday and also ecstasy last night. I don't know if y'all did but it was a fun. Show hey nbc sports man you get to watch telling you man you get to watch on television little bit of a breath of fresh air European is the leader. You have sees the ma. But i'm telling you that buffering can get on my tits anyway. It was refreshing to see. I may again on television. And guess what. You're still two more cards. Cbs sports tonight. For bella tour we got a title fight. We got grand prix quarterfinals One of them's basically a dual fight. Mature co frady is in the quarterfinals of the featherweight grand prix but is his bite is an actual title right And then you have see of course on saturday. Paul felder saved the day call fell. There will be fighting. Rda coffee goes on the former ufc. Lightweight champ us going all the way down the five back i think they're weighing in In about twenty four hours so all the best to all the athletes but especially older because he did not know he was going to be fighting this past monday morning and then he decided to fill in islam. Macher chef without zambia. Join us towards. The end of the show might have surprise. Towards the beginning. Buckle up junky nation. It's a may junkie radio again on a thursday november call. Let me go. Danny seguida dropping in just wanted to let you know about 'em junkies latest botkin it's lemus. Mma weekly spanish language show dedicated to all things professional fighting each monday. We recap the major events from the weekend. Plus we analyze the week's biggest news. You also bring you exclusive interviews with the best fighters coaches and experts in the hispanic and latin american. You can find every monday morning on your favourite podcasting platform subscription dating job We're still getting righteous. Yeah yeah unrealized was background. Yeah was looking for the little warning there. Then i noticed live they got picked by knows all right folks What's going on again goes in i. We host the may jumps radio. Show been doing this for a long time. And we're gracious to be here on sports caster like we have been for the last six months. We moved from wednesdays to mondays and thursdays Mixed martial arts goes we think man. Can you take these types of weeks. Dana white contender series on tuesday wednesday meaning last night. See on nbc sports tonight. Bella tore on cbs sports one championship. You wanna throw them in the loop. Be our live tomorrow morning. Early morning Not at card like two weeks ago but there are a formidable lotion. And you have see on saturday. And that's no disrespect to see the titan cage wars. I haven't even looked. I mean they. They may have. They may not. Lfa of course but what do you think of this type of schedule. I like it. I can do it. Here's the thing though. I can't do it. All live because of the commercials and especially when it's like an internet stream. Sometimes it'll just go on forever so what i have to do is somehow can condense that time so what i've been doing lately is just waiting for the event to finish and what i do is like maybe workout event or something like that that way when i come back on the dvr. And i can just get to the fights. Just the fights the fights fights right i can do it that way but it is kind of a lot and and that's what you're asking from anime fan which most i'm gonna say. Most most of them may at some point where boxing bans or pro wrestling fans or football basketball. They have other interests in life. You know so you throw that in. Like for instance today world cup qualifiers international friendlies two and a half hours of your day that you got you gotta sit in front of the tv or a laptop whatever. Its frequent tough man. It's the thursday night football game you know. There's a lot of things out there. That are competing for your time so the way i figured out how to do this now just seem like i have to sacrifice some live events now last night. accepts see that i was able to just put on while i was on the treadmill and that was cool. You know on birds at ones with one stone. But i have to multitask now to get all the things done. And they're all quality events. Like i can't go the whole weekend without watching boats or i want to know what's going to happen. I'm hoping they have a really good car. Because they really need a good card here and They have some match ups that i think are pretty interesting. So i think it's gonna be fun and then the us's kind of a hard to to miss at any capacity but when you throw in that little wrinkle that little rocky story oh sudden with paul felder just jumping out at the last second and take tie off and getting in the cage rule at that really does make things compelling. That didn't happen. That card would be earned and maybe that would be a card. Where i didn't do it live. I would just come back and watch him. Boom boom boom fight fight fight but but yeah overall. I'm pretty happy very happy Because having the two three tv setup you can always one thing and watch the other and go back and forth and freeze it. You warm up dinner. You can like you said the get a set in on the weights or feed the dog walk. The dog answer a call things like that. So you know it that part you can do and china way walker call on accidentally up So yeah the ability to multitask is definitely something that one has to do. If you wanna get it all in and goes in are not just. Mma man's we watch a lot of sports so when you do get the thursday and you can on the thursday night game which used to be just college now. It's pro football and college. And then it's not going on now but for me highschool. Football's pretty big and a lot of it's televised now. So getting in you know. And then of course saturday i mean. Don't even have to mention that. Saturday and sunday. But wanna go back to dana white contender series. Here are the winners. Danny sabotage defeated taylor moore luna pinero defeated. Stephanie roscoe nicholas multi defeated joe lowery on the. Tom lobby defeated. Shaheen's santana and mario sousa defeated. Mario's oh boy. Did i even go there in shea. Which something went brendan fitzgerald was really showing off. He rehearsed it any nailed. It Are us shipshape wits I think after like the fifth time. I was like okay brandon. We get it you nailed it. You studied it. 'cause he was going out of his way to say n even got this thing to say a lot of times. I'm just gonna go with mary's now seriously. I had a lot of fun. Because i saw good fighters at lost that night. So i'm just bombed that there's not another more few weeks. Identify contenders series. Where they get second chance. That's that's the one thing you get by going on the early episodes Especially this season. Which got stretched out across four months Some of these other ones. They can just kind of like hang back and see how things work out and you could still get the call you can impress and losing Use shinshu sir. Whatever his name was he impressed me. That was jackson jax teller like he impressed. I would call him in a heartbeat and then also shaheen santana same thing. I would call him his law in. He was on the losing end on tuesday night but they took they took three fighters but i think they got their eye on more than three. So good on them. Love love why contender series. We don't have many might have two weeks left. That will one week left. So that's kind of a bummer. I'd be curious to see an update. On how big do you have see. Roster is cause for all these guys that we keep adding. I don't know if it's maybe just not publicize the way it used to. But i haven't seen that. Many people get their pink slayer their their their walking papers right like do we just have a bigger roster now probably i think right now you throw twenty twenty out the window. Don't worry about if traditionally they've carried five hundred or six hundred or four hundred. I bet you there's a lot out there. i bet you contracts are just frozen. I think there's some athletes that just can't go for whatever reason but you know like seeing what i've been seeing like the kind of playing a little bit of a hard ball game just because they're they're rockstar to the wall on liane edwards. I saw you and mike wandering an interview with him. That's probably not a fight that he envisioned taking against hamas should mia. But he is you know and then they just signed. Geoff diehl versus stephen thompson. But it seems like we're getting you know a lot of fighters that wanna find pretty frequently though those retirements hurt. Don't get me wrong. Obeef pseudo army silva come on you know but you got israel ready to fight again for another title versus the whole which you know. And if not him then you got gloria sharing to go so kevin harlan. He's stepping up you. Know he's fighting. The joker hermansson so. I don't think it's never anything. I don't think it's anything you can never predict. It's unpredictable felder taken off the tie. Like a superhero and say. I'm just going to jump in and bite and remember off elder. A few months ago was calling bites and then took off the time and ran. Back in corner jared gordon. You know what i mean. So this is the first time. Paul felder pool the frank trigg franchise the oh gee frank trigg at pride thirty two and thirty three okay. Pride thirty three and you've bought and then came back and call the last seven fights a pretty amazing. What some of these guys and gals can do a really quick last night on. Except see austin bauchi defeated enzo perez. Jazirah boy defeated kurt. Kurt hall about one. Excuse me. I'm just looking at the match. Senior star about kenneth cross defeated giral s group. Ask us Jessica aguilar defeated danielle taylor. And you don't want to wait a minute. Who wants to combined area. Sukhum dial one but it was a split decision and the judge actually had it thirty twenty seven for the other guy. Holy cow just remembered. I took a call from our parents. And i froze it and then when i came back. I think i got distracted. I never i kept seeing highlights. I was like oh that's right. That's right in the kept looking away. And i wanted to get to the beginning and i realized right now that i i only saw some of it while on mute and then frozen but i did see Aguilar versus taylor. Angular started off strong. Taylor came back and finished strong. And then kenneth cross. I'm bringing these to eglin. Came across the recent guests of ours here on junkie radio video video style camera. Krasula good goes. I think dana contender series. Messed up by not keeping him because he looked pretty athletic pretty well rounded like a savage talk. A good game had a great mustache going on So altogether i really enjoyed acce- and i still get to watch the main event now in other result but i still get to watch at least that because i heard it was pretty decent. Kenneth cross actually knocked his I wanna say two. Maybe even three times in that fight. I think where they were. Just flash knockouts any woke the guy back up. He looks phenomenal owning. That sucks z. Mistake you know. And and it's kinda hard to celebrate after something like that but he got the finish and he moves on in the tournament will see how it goes and no doubt and then of course tonight we got belt for fifty. Two pit bulls vs carraro. They're still Still out on zone in case some of you are still don't have. Cbs sports the citizen international. Show here on sports caster people watch it from different parts of the world if you have dissolved and not. Cbs sports. there you go you can still watch it seventy four. Pm pacific an early start in. Its three main card. Emmanuel sanchez versus daniel this is a featherweight tournament. Quarterfinal one bracket is still in the quarterfinals. The other brackets in the semi-finals mckee's brackets in the semifinals. This in the quarterfinals yaroslava imus offers low story. And then you got patricia. Frady defending his belt against pedro vial. And this is simultaneously grand pre quarter-final. So we will have. We will be all caught up now. it's don't get belt or hard time on this. They had an idea for sixteen man for the weight grand prix. They had their champion defend along the way the pandemic donor things up so at least we get to more of those matchups. This week to other big stars gary melendez and erin pico. Are on the undercard. You can watch the card on him and may junkie at four. pm eastern any thoughts on that longest. While i think it's kinda you said something. I think it was on spinning back. Look where you just hear something into disorder clicks in your head. It was the fact that aaron pico could maybe still slip into that. Tournament's should something happen to somebody along the way granite every round. You have less than less those guys To deal with but If aaron peco really truly has turned things around he's one of those guys that could be just about anyone in the world and if he doesn't slip into the tournament then you gotta magin between now and the end the end of the tournament. He can get one. Maybe even two more an which. I don't see why he wouldn't be one of the number one guys waiting. Whoever wins at tournament which you know whether that is a lot of people have pit bull or if you have jay mckee whoever that is that's gonna be a great fight and that's going to be an interesting storyline of its. Aj mckee because as the train together. So When he said that kinda stuck in my head. I'm very curious to see pico Looks like when you hear him speak. I'm very impressed. Just the way. He conducts himself the way he speaks to the media let maron pico has an added you know. He had a of hype coming in and when he came in future did not perform to that level. He had some hiccups but he's answered every one of those questions and he doesn't get two-day when he gets asked it he's very professional and he doesn't always give the same answer and i'm not saying changes his opinion. You just phrases. The different means very interesting guy Mix side anytime you. Somebody like that on a card. You get excited anytime you see fit. Will you get excited if i'm baladora. Bogus paid because fit will aside from just what he does in the cage. Both rose billy. They actually go out there and they cheerleader. Little bit for both. I thought it was kinda cool. What he said about michael chandler who technically was his rival. You know so. I don't know when you see names like this. It's it's must see. Yeah you know. I just wonder if scott coker was like behind the scenes like oh gee you be sad. The dropped out in grade chance for pico because pico about a year ago year and a half ago when all this started was coming off some brutal cao's so i think it was best that he just wasn't thrown into this mix. Even though you know that that that he's a big enough name that they would have wanted that but now he goes a few years removed. He's gotten some wins data. Swag back man. That's my prediction. Is i think at some point. We're gonna see pico pop. In the way we saw daniel karmiel pop in a few years ago at the strikeforce heavyweight bembry he was in the alternate route. One that and then Got in. i believe in the semifinals. I barnett and then Will be the final bigfoot. I think so good for him. You know And if peco can do something similar. I would love to see him because he is really an amazing town just happened gotten caught and when you get caught man that shin can be very very suspect on all good. You are how big you are. If that biden gets touched you can go down. That's unfortunately what's happened to be go a couple of times. You know what question. I ask people. Today i believe today's the anniversary of you'll see one correct could be. Yeah yeah yeah. I'm almost positive it is also areana celestis birthday. How enough because. I just to be on instagram yesterday and i saw her. Maybe he's a new mom and should turn my phone off. Sorry guys anyway. I was looking to see like oh man like she gonna come back you know. I was curious the rage. And when i saw agent on his birthday this like late last night but anyway go ahead anyways. It's the anniversary of. You'll see one. And i like to ask fighters and i'm probably gonna ask sam alvydas. I think you would have done you know if you went into. Ufc one your sam. Alvie right. Would you have won that tournament. You know what. It's sad to say. And some people think i'm voice gracie later on. I love that guy. I love what he did. And i thought what he did was amazing but I don't know. I mean. I think he probably you know. I think there's a lot of those that look at aaron pico or look at we're talking about pit bull. They probably would won. Don't you think i think at some point. They would have had to deal with the whole no time limit like we gotta figure this out. This big review can't go on forever. But i don't think those against submitted and i think it will but if he's matched up in the first round against gerardo or patrick smith can they strike with those guys will just some big dudes. Patrick smith was a good. What six three or so or don't think was about. It was about six five and so if pit bull get them down then yeah i probably submits them but if he can't and he's just kickboxing against those. Who don't see. You're basing it just on when you lock horns with gracie which is true. You know. I guess that's it. We're gonna we're gonna really really revisit the whole event you gotta wonder did they fight gracie i mean. Yeah probably they either get submitted or they start them and he's out of the way or did they meet gracie in the finals. Who meet along the way you know. I think most of them beat our jimmer. Som for sure right. Yeah yeah so depends on who you're asking. I don't think ben evita's against gordo. I dunno engano against gordo probably doesn't garner then get submitted by that. Probably knock them into another dimension. Who in ghana would not gerard dough into another dimension. Indeed yeah no you're right i mean I'm just saying you know. I think they didn't even wear gloves as pretty much bare knuckle and they weren't really doing any cap kicks league i mean is that the new that started because the today yeah. That's what i'm saying. That's that's how much things have changed the level of talent that you have taught me meal. Choose the one that started gas in round two. Does ep gordo. He doesn't finish gordo around london. Vp gordo gordo. Turn things around. Member goes no time limits. I think it'd beat them. Did you remember like just the reaction of when gordo kicked daily to lease to like it was just that like even the fighters themselves admitted like. Whoa okay these are people that signed up for that tournament okay. They knew what was coming and even they were caught by surprise. Like oh my god. This is for real. I think a lot of fighters the would have that same reaction i mean. Francis don is the scary do man terrifying for sure. But don't you think that the name russia they're going to win right. They win you one. Probably most of them were figure it out No time limits is a little tricky and then there's a few guys that i don't think are built for one nighters remember all. This went down in one night as well. So by that i mean i think there's the The adrenaline dump. I think there's some fighters just perform than they. I don't know if they're ready to perform again. You know the the sometimes they get hurt or recruiting remarkably draining. Pretty mentally draining And then the whole. I don't even know who i might fight. The i guess they had the brackets kind of said back then but they had alternates and they had so many things that could pop up a one time. It'd be interesting it would be interesting You know dan severn. If gone fights. Dan severn it has the russell for one round but then makes it to the end or farmers later he wasn't he wasn't one though right true. I guess i'm just talking about the early ones. You know gracie era but hoist figured out a bunch of puzzles. You know what i mean. But let's see dan severn and he takes you At the five minute mark buying get on your feet okay. Great you knock out dance over. What are you gonna look like in the next room. Are you ready to go. What if paul marlins beat somebody ten seconds and he's fresh. You know what. I mean that. That's what was so amazing about what gracie did was all the littler tangible along the way he had an answer for you know all different styles. He was in great shape. He unfortunately wasn't able to go in the herald howard fight herald. Howard looked medicine. Ready look like you're gonna rip choices at off. But i don't know man now. I'm thinking of voice doesn't have that concussion. Or whatever the exhaustion and if he can just give past like a minute or two exotic into it was his hit. Bright as he hip jacked. Up from william f chemo. Make us really. Yeah what crack me up about. Health howard was The little tank top he was wearing didn't even look like it. Was you won all ones in the rotation does those does events early on. Were pretty funny. I would definitely go back and watch them back on. Might even do that today. Go back and watch you see one over one championship. Seven thirty eastern or thirty. Am pacific singapore indoor stadium. That's their home and this is tomorrow. John nigger makes his debut against kevin bailing on Check that out. that's the main event. This one's inside the matrix. Three seven thirty a. m. eastern four thirty a. m. pacific so primetime in singapore are like eighteen hours ahead and it's super early in the morning here on the pacific time zone fairly early as well on the eastern time zone but Check it out if you wanna just get your hands on as much as possible. And then of course. Saturday belder versus hoppy although santos and one hundred and fifty five pounds. Alright joining us now in about ten seconds will be a former two division. Ufc champion he did it in the light heavyweight division in every way division. Y'all represented the united states in freestyle wrestling. Nc two a. Finalist an all american daniel cormie contents seconds. Sneak is a true crime. Podcast for the win in usa today and this season is on a surfing champion. His life took a violent tragic turn but then thirty seconds. They're both dead the sneak murders. That whiskey creek is july. Twenty ninth wherever you get podcasts. There is retired your fighter and now now a commentator of course on espn and the ufc hawaii dc in good man. I'm good daddy duty steady do this morning. What's the name of the third baby luna luna rose. Yeah she's beautiful kind of locally sleeping right yeah on the trying to keep it down in. I don't wanna wait girl. I'll talk about what's going on. Guys are no no no no you can keep though. I think it's awesome. And i think it's awesome. These are some precious days all right so and then things wind up To stand on saturday you have seen on in the felder versus hoppy. All those are round took place on. Espn plus it. All starts at four pm. Eastern one pacific brandon allen research. Rickman is the main event on prelims in the main card starts at seven pm eastern four. Pm pacific your main aunt. All felder versus Though sanju we got him back. Goes yes yeah. Would you think of your colleague. Paul felder man on five days. Notice hoffa paul visit gangster just popping up. They need to fight like all right. Here's the thing filters been getting ready for like some five k race or something that so. He's like super skinny. He's really in shape. Is like you know what man fight chance. Why not go do it. You know so yeah. That's big paul. Paul calls a gangster man dude loves to fight do loves to compete in. I'm excited for him to get a chance to fight. A former champion sandra big fight for is it still like the old as an unity presents itself and you could maybe a little bit more money to since stopping a notice biter still do that or is it different now. I mean you know in terms of money. It just depends right. It varies for different guys. You know i you know i gotta pay Before i fly. Derek lewis madison square garden in that just became my fight. I rise like it worked out perfect for me it. Just whatever i mean on have fight became what i just may. Every time i walked into the some. There's room you know that's the one thing about new york see is i. There's always room for a certain types of different money situations but it does vary with different guys. You know business you know. Everybody isn't always treated the exact same. But that's not that way in any business. You see a wanted to ask you something now that your career is over and you know what. It's like to be literally star challengers guy not get paid much early on and make your way through these different stations. These belts finally to the or champ champion. You saw someone like you Go to dana because you have a great relationship with the. Oc a great relation dana. Why and just sit there and go. Hey it's time you need to give us five fifty thousand dollar bonuses. The roster needs Riders can benefit. I don't know just something like fighting for guys around ian. Bj and those guys early on fought for you guys that make millions why. I think it's like it's it's been unspoken right like i will leave that. Everybody started to make more money. When conor mcgregor came mike connors start making so much more so i think as the scored grows and stars like guys like myself in connor jones habib all those meal chits are making seven figures and not only a million dollars before it was like if you can make a million dollars man. You're you're you're gonna me. But now guys are making millions upon millions of dollars. And i believe that as the sport continues to girl in the stars continue to break through the glass ceiling the the the base paid will pay will continue to raise no ultimately on the athlete right. Everybody wants to talk. I always tell people this you know. And i don't know if it comes off as if i'm guided loves the u. of c. Which non-aligned wouldn't. I made a ton of money in my career but i think it when guys become draws in become stars may become champion. They are pain right. So it's like it's a matter of getting to where you are supposed to be athletically. I wasn't in any dressing by the way a union or association. That's obviously a whole other topic. I was just thinking something that someone with the influence like your cell could do. Looks doodo could be so courageous retired. Maybe saluto i could see him walking. Or whatever i don't know about even i don't know about civil but i'm just wondering if maybe rather than look at all association union thing maybe just one little maybe that maybe that's reckon cornerman. Gets his travel paid. You know usually. I think it's an ornament and then you out of your own. Ach especially the international problems. Child guys have to pay out of their warm little. W where you can now say. Hey look this is what. I helped to contribute. You can ask anybody. I only ask these guys. That are super influential. That's why the question comes to you and not like maybe we're going to have some alvie on the show. I wouldn't ask him that. The keeps getting a call or i. I know this guy keeps calling me. I'm not. I'm not answering. Can you guys hear me so here. Here's my thing right. This is my deal right on the why the camera went off. I i don't use this program guys. I'm very uncanny. I'm not savvy when it comes to like anything that needs. But here's what i'm saying right the cornermen situation. I understand what you're saying. george. I do believe that that there there comes a time where maybe you do take care of this guy right. But there are instances in which i like. I don't know maybe maybe it's like i'm to maybe it's too much like corporation I feel like if you and goes go to do something right. And it junkie pays for because you guys are so valuable to the company right. You bring the viewers you bring the listener. People watch because of that. I've always watched at to show because you wanted to show everybody else. I've always watch your show for you. I've always watched areas. You'll for area watch. I know the guys that do the shows so when they fly you guys there wherever you. you know. whatever you're doing it's because you bring value right. Those younger guys start. They have a corner in themselves. You know in they pay for that but then as the guys will older in a growing career. It's hard for a guy to say him. I need more whatever you know. You're not necessarily agreement back all that much in business but like just gates you right. Justin gay cheat was headlining. Abu dhabi filed just as dina. Hey parents have never been. Can they fly on the charter. Would sure whatever it takes all family right but again just engage you bring is to that fight so mean it's almost like as you add value you have more More things come your way. I'm being. I'm being honest man. It's like i think that's how it is in most business most businesses this way so i just don't see many guys stepping outside of themselves to do that as we go forward How does retire mule so far to you is it is fulfilling in the sense that this is what you wanted and you could see yourself doing this for the next five years in iran. My implying a comebacker. Now that you're you're already see that you're going to have to announce a lot or coach a lot like. Is it exactly how you want the perfect coaching announcing in other on in old crazy george's in two thousand eighteen. I fought three times right. I fought them by nineteen only fault. One time. two thousand twenty. I only one time. So it's not like i was very active so all that time away from the octagon i was essentially just living the life that i'm living today right like working. Tv in doing all my outside jobs just to continue to build my future. I wasn't really fighting very often anymore. So it's not like it's much different. The only thing is now. I have that finality to it right. I know that. I'm not gonna be fighting again and i've accepted that. So it's not what difference honestly but it's just knowing that there is no more training camps coming up but you know what would that be inset. It's also sad. You know like the other day one of my friends chain. He's from he's from tree career. I'm sure you guys have seen in my whole career. They sponsored me in the oxygen. Before we saw became break friends. He came to the house. The day dropped off in xbox series x for my son's birthday are for since christmas. Well we're just trying of sit in the garage talking and it was like you know the clips come up with us in training camp. Let's do in these things. It does make you miss it. But that's the only difference. Now opposed to what i was doing the last couple of years. Abc on a scale of one to ten. How much do you. I i like you guys. I think you guys have been so so nice to meet from the very start. My career We've had some great fun times. I think he has great again a lot. Like you guys have bought a seven eight way up there. Let's a hey listen. That's about as much like my wife series zero near the theory. Rarified air go eagles struggling what kind of a question regret goes well now. 'cause i i wanted to make sure that he wouldn't kill me when i asked him. Hey you just back out. And come. I will i will. I'll do that. I'll do that like what is going on here. I answer the a seven grade. I'll take it no. Okay what's your thinking that is the same as Of and say hey man give goes a pat on the back. Thinking needs or something. I remember guys. This is live so We don't usually do recordings. We can kind of take a break and figure the little problems out because it's live. We had to do that. And i know you guys wanna see daniel coordinators face. So that's why we we had him back out here and come back on. What happens is they don't have their phone on. Do not disturb calm and the the whole thing kind of goes caputo so George talk for second while. I do what i need to do with the other guy. I all right sounds good all right so while. Dc comes back lifts. That is morrison here. Think so comfortable. Daniel cormie bobblehead hall nice. It's nice look at that show. It debuted a few weeks ago. And we may bobblehead dot com is where you can get yours and get this. We're getting close to christmas. They also have the ornaments for your tree. I never would have thought that. I would have any of this though using john jones on his christmas tree of me. Yep look at that night search or george. This is why i love you guys so much. Kickbacks you'll dc fighter shirt men. Mike was blocking this whole journey. This whole journey when you guys have been so supportive and i really do appreciate it. I really really do comes in this awesome box. Right here is awesome. Yeah that was after aerodyne workout. I was just finishing working on brian. I am the bay took a picture or maybe it was easy to sandwich. One of those guys took a photo and I just turned out to be a fantastic pitcher so teed menacing look sweat pouring off you look like you mean business. Awesome man yeah. Bobblehead just came out with that. You've gotten yours already at home. Your relatives avenue or decently so the house is to pick them up in the post office after. Go get him. I was gone for the last three weeks so from finally home. Now i can start to get things done in in my life and order. yeah My boxes signed but i want my bobbehead sign so hopefully. Hopefully we see you in vegas your next announcing i work on the twenty first. I work next week or the show on the twenty-first right. When i'm dave davison. Figueredo fights against alex perez. I worked yes a good one. I'm excited about that fight. The i mean davis a trigger radio the type of power. This kid generates at one hundred. Twenty five pounds is insane in alex. Perez has shown over time that he's just approved to be such a dangerous complete mixed martial arts than me. He fences last night with leg. Kicks i mean this. Fight is going to be insane. Great to have those types of fights one hundred twenty five pounds because for a long time detail was so dominant right people kind of started to two now the weight class but the reality is it's a fantastic waco's by the way i wanted to go with something to All this talk about you know you go into dana. Ride on behalf of the fighters came from yesterday. When we're talking to matt scriven. This guy will that year that came off his opponent the other day. That was worldstar. Stevo was saying you should have got a bonus you know and and i started. I've been thinking about this for a while. Why the you seen Wendy of rapid bonus. I've also thought about like the cornermen thing. And then some of the retired fighters like mark coleman seeing what he's doing might wondering. When will they be in bell and get to the Lozo irons no. No i understand like i understand. All this stuff makes sense. I have to believe that for that kid. With the year there will be helped. I mean you've. Ufc will help him to try to help him get back healthy in honesty even though the backside bonuses aren't as prominent as they once were. I'm sure they'll get something kicked in their direction. There was a kid that fog At five dollars just recently and it was like it was as much of a performance bonus. Earning victory that i had seen in but the fight car was so good that i'm sure going back. He'll get a bonus right. It was almost unspoken to talk In the back with the boston. I'll take you and that's pretty much all you can get for. The you'll see does a lot of things that are known to the general public. And i'm not just saying this because i worked for the. I'm telling you this. Because i've seen it happen. I've seen them do things. Look so many times we have our superstars in athletes they duties special things for their communities but then he posted on the internet. That doesn't mean that other people are doing things mean every year. My family and i we try to do stuff in the community before christmas. Kids less fortunate. I don't post it though because it's not for that it's for those kids you don't need to make public but i think ese does a lot of those things too. I remember when the whole bellcore came in scott was paying guys Because the fight got cancelled deck. That's fantastic told us to bob. Cooking boggles do. He has been doing this for years but they just don't not. It's not public. So i think that A lot of these things are done behind closed doors in not really made into big deal there. Nope i wanted to ask you a question. I just wanna tie in a couple of things that are going on in the world today. What's going on with you. And i started thinking. Obviously a lot of people been tuning into this presidential election and one point. Start thinking man. What if this happen but in the ufc at our data your terms up we gotta come up with somebody new. Who would you pick to run for that office. And would you be that guy. Would you want a job man. I speak to dana in the stress. That this dude is under is so tremendous like you don't understand we're on fight will what are you doing all day. He's going eagle. Dc got no idea what it takes to keep this on right now. it The stress of this job is so heavy that i don't know who could do the job outside of him. I mean honestly Scott coker the job that he has to do is so difficult. Has a mike kogan in his life to help him like Hunter helps dana. Is such a hard job that i don't know who could do these jobs. Outside of the men that are doing them right now. So i don't know who i'll pick. I don't know who would be. Who could handle the stress of trying to run the ufc belot or for that matter. The jobs are these hardy jobs in the world. So when guys sign up to the president you got to be out of your frigging mind. Who is the president like. It's so hard it's such a hard job you won't be the president that's what your life like. It's crazy why you were the first name. I thought i think it'd be really good at that. One day lindsay is such a hard job. It's such a hard job. I just hope that dane is doing it for a long time. No obviously i think anyone would ever have an opportunity to do something like that would be an idiot not to try. But it's not guaranteed that even if you were to give a job like that. Roger goodell in frigging adam silver. Like those guys are. Those are hard jobs especially now is the pandemic and then another thing. I wanted to ask you something. That kind of just went on not too long ago. Yesterday was the one year anniversary of the one year anniversary of. Ufc one and You today this morning on. Do you remember when you're first interviews with us. Man bob combing the throw a kick right. You're still kinda limited. Indeed you feel like even that limited daniel cormie with with your your college wrestling experience on that. Could you have gone up. See one wanted. Because i think choice grayson was in. Usc one wasn't he like submitting everybody. But i think you saw guys like myself. Kevin radical men and mark coleman those guys that did striking anyway. We'll take down. Ground him out in when fights so I did okay. Nine to sit here. And say i was going to be racing. Portland did okay. Because you had that background. Because we've seen of my coaches kevin. Jackson he fought. He got submitted right. So you could. You could have done. Well gotten this far as you needed to go without. Absolutely being the best because the cage got he might have won a tournament in any flood frankfurter belt and got submitted. Twenty seconds so you gotta have a rounded out your skillset had to start coming around even back then in order to be successful at the highest level. Now you're giving yourself enough. Credit here ever been matriculation. There's a three digit in the house. Ridable figure out. What's going on. I can on him the whole time. You're gone in the walls. I can't your holy shit. I don't want him to sit in the house. I'm so scared of burger. I'll talk to dc covert rid of this guy's flying anywhere whisper i e c. That's got a lot of breath. I've been chasing his mother. Coronal hey. dc. What do you think of swagger jacker tonight. You know what. I mean or should explain it. I don't know what that means exactly wrote like a lover wing or yawn wins all the ones that have been waiting winning Main events and in the superstars. Like yourself. And i'm not saying you're one but there's a lot of superstars that are out there that it only that congratulations. But only they get in the door and like mimi like a little bit of times john connor. Sometimes it can be so gracious. You see it. You buchan visiting gracious but another times. I feel like they just take that. Shine away from the guy that competed. And i think it's awesome when the superstars like yourself and john connor and everybody else chime in and ready to go retirement. You're the man. This and that but not throw themselves into the conversation on fight night also when i fought when i did this. I did this for anderson recently. I said listen to get into fights. You was one of the greatest nights in my life. I go i remember watching it. You'll see one on one. The first time i've ever fought Or been there. You know. But i i can't. I just wanted to congratulate him. And i try to congratulate these athletes on their big performances. I think i think sometimes you know we as athletes we. We all have eagles right. We all have massive eagles in active competitors They don't like the spotlight to stray too far away from them. I think that's why you get that. At times. i feel like sometimes. It's a great opportunity promoted itself because all eyeballs on the sport. I get that art. And i get so crimes it makes sense you know. Especially let's say on a fight yard or wanna fight not making noise that that night at the same time. I don't know like like you guys are such a great great for thirty. You know at times. And then i think when there's time it compete you. You build up a rivalry in it can get heated and all but it seems like a fight night when everyone's just their own jalen. I'd like to give the guy her get it. Is the guys have their moment. Because guess what. George we have been blessed with so many like we've been blessed with so many moments moments got people are just hoping to have one right. I had a ton ton of them in those moments will continue. Because we're on tv every day and you don't go away right. Your legacy always stays behind. I think that the guys that you talk about we need to really sometimes take a step to aside side understand that it does. It can be about the guy for one night. It doesn't have to be about him the whole time but give him this time especially performances like that You know. I think the biggest case of that recently was when habib was demand in jones. Just lost his mind. It wasn't him so he lost his mind. Like it's okay if everybody this guy just had such a great performance under the circumstances lost his father. Now everybody's discuss the vests. Okay okay for years. People have been saying your best right. It should not offend you to the point that you feel like you have to go on this tangent to aunts Pretty much as every single tweet that was central to answer every tweet since you you have that many follower so just think sometimes you gotta let gordy ego and realized that read the room pick your time in doodles things in those moments. That are necessary. Do you like having the mic. Drop moment yourself or do you like your army comes and says it on your behalf and you can kill you know. Let them speak about how war which is usually what the media and fans do another way but no some people do their own brawlers well. I don't mind arguing people. Sometimes i think that that happened. As i got later in my career i was more open to addressing the badminton. Sadly you're responding to the people that say negative things in all supporters. You just kind of ignore it almost appraise that. They're they're heaping on you so i think we need to really recognize what we have in front of us. We all support Be i prefer my fans and my friends and everybody to fight for me because you do the battle inside the octagon they do all this stuff for you outside fellas. My daughter starting to wake up by daughter chicago. Okay time for me your go you. Good her william pigeon but done this year. You got one more. I got one more less i got. I'll do my daughter starting to wake up. Though in she gets bad boys limitations champion of the world gets up and she starts screaming. She gets mad. That pigeon would be at least. Your words of my daughter gets more. You wanna see abadan more. I went down there. That scare the shit out of okay. So when and ask you this. There's a lot of pound for pound. talk out there. We just talked about one and how much the game is. All george is trying to give us a at this point when you're talking about the greatest of all time nor pound for pound king do. They have to have competed in multiple weight classes. I do have battled in multiple weight classes. Oh multi-car i think folks. I think it helps. I think it helps. I think it helps me classes but you know what men would is are putting on dominant performance at. Somebody's done in their weight classes. You really can't question anything they do. So i don't i don't i don't believe that it's necessary but i do think it helps when you start talking about Where you stand amongst greats of all time you know because of the greatest fighters Have fought in multiple classes. Permit me one more. Okay fast will. I don't know if you saw the footage yesterday earns hagler poking that fight. There's these old rivals even muhammad ali. Joe frazier at some point. They get together and the kind of state now. They have a beer. We've seen that moment. I've asked this before things have gotten older. You're retired now. You get that call from john jones. let's meet up. Have a beer with dinner. Happens you show up. You need to do and just kind of hang out and reminisce idol. No i mean. That's not even something i've thought about. I think that the things that we have done set to each of are so. They're so nasty. It's been with so much bad blood that i don't know if a it can be just easily kind of washed away. I think that I don't know. I actually the only time that i think about. That is when you guys bring it up because i never think about whether or not be friends with jones is going to happen. Sugar ray leonard all the way to panama and finally made a piece of appeasement. Roberto sugary was more of the one that had mentally way on him and he good with thirty years after the fight. And i were at one on one on in a public setting If you bring back up or others she was just showed up to my house old. We now were talking and enjoy your day guys all right all right man. That was cool reading here. I wonder if somebody like a friend or family. Nobody just rings the doorbell and leads a ps time right like well. 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A couple of minutes and he goes actually have to do something to reschedule this interview. I just figured among daniel cormet shows up out of nowhere fucking pigeon in the house. We there was a lot going on. So i said you know what i will just reconnect them. We'll figure it out and he goes. Hey no problem so don't want people to look at this and go. Oh man they bumps and the elliott now and happen. We're not those guys so it's all worked out. You will get a albion interview. Yeah awesome awesome to talk to talk to them about anything. He just had his fight island. That ended in a draw. Then he was in town here in vegas. Cornering some of his teammates But he's always a good time. And i don't know that we've had him on athlete since we've kinda gone to the more the video ormat a lot of a lot of times. They just been done by phone. But we're definitely looking order that also check out. Www dot youtube dot com forward slash in may junkie video. Subscribe to that. Why because everything that the the the website does pre and post fight for all the different leaks especially with a lot of a writers. Actually there in attendance. Jon morgan bottom. They were by john's here in vegas with ken. Hathaway they're handling all s. The nolan king is over there at bella tour and uncles ville connecticut. So you get all that stuff. Behind the scenes A lot of this stuff related to spending backlit rankings. Report a lot of the interviews that we do as well as the other riders go to. Www dot youtube dot com forward slash ever may junkie video and check it out. Subscribe that way. You can see the whole interview. Oftentimes when we recap these interviews basically you know a portion of the actual interview with some video highlights and then that's it but there's a lot of stuff that happens during the interviews. I don't know about as entertaining as me chasing down a pigeon but Yeah check it out folks. Follow me on instagram and twitter. Adema junkie george follow goes at the goes and our radio. Show is at emma junkie. Radio we're gonna dip on out of here. Sorry i was gonna say You're on wifi right. Yeah we didn't get to see the engine. Can we see the pigeon at this point. You can disconnect your mic and just carrying a laptop over there. But we couldn't see him. But i think people aren't these are grossman. See him There's not enough light. You need to get a little closer to hold your publicly. I he's gonna move and scare the shit eh. i can't because i know he's there but I don't know if the audience can real dark but but yeah right where the crosses there there. You go make a move on them. He thinks he can go out the window. Yeah i wish. I could just open the window and they'd be gone but oh here we have the door and the doors wide open. We're going to have to pick them up. Yeah all right. Well it's the pigeon flack knows flying rats or something like that hurt amen. Were battling corona. 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Reuniting With Jason "Mayhem" Miller

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Reuniting With Jason "Mayhem" Miller

"Area Hawaii's Emma may show is presented by modell brewed for those with a fighting spirit. Everyone it's area Hawaii. Hope you're doing well on this Wednesday afternoon. I'm very excited about today's podcast. I speak to Jason Mayhem Miller. It has been almost eight years since I spoke to him. And I'll be honest. I didn't think I'd ever speak to him again. And so it was really nice to connect with him again and to reunite if you will and I'm hoping that you all enjoy the conversation as well before we get to the actual interview. Let me tell you about our good friends over at ziprecruiter. As you know right now we all know how easy it can be to get overwhelmed. Got A lot going on but keep ourselves busy. We have to work. You must work to keep our loved one safe at the protect their communities. We have to work to stay strong. Stay connected and to stay focused and we have to work to inspire to innovate to build new solutions. But for all this to actually work. 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Jalen rose and David Jacoby which then did by state farm and at and T. It's Jalen and Jacoby the after show featuring another good friend of mine director Jason Hare available wherever you get your podcasts and also one last quick were before we get the mayhem Miller. Today's episode contains language that may not be suitable for all audiences so listener discretion is advised on Wednesday April twenty. Second Two thousand and twenty a logan everyone Mariani welcome back to another episode of the program and as always we are presented by our good friends over at modell. Delo s facia root for those with a fighting spirit so as I said at the top. I'm really excited about today. It has been a longtime seven and a half years to be exact since I last spoke to the Great Jason Mayhem Miller. An og of the fight game a guy who has been around the sport for a very long time but the reason. I haven't talked to him in almost eight years is because for the past almost decade or so he has been in and out of jail he has had a litany of issues with the police in southern California legal issues arrests. It has not been a good time for him but recently I noticed that he seemed to be turning the corner that he seemed to be returning to the old Jason Miller who love back when he was in his prime around ten eleven years ago and I thought that maybe this would be a good time to reconnect with him. Because back when I started my career. He's one of those guys that I spoke to a lot. He was one of my favorite interviews. Colorful fun eccentric. I mean he was just a lot of fun and one of the few guys who actually was able to become a star outside of the UFC eventually made it to the UFC. But he really was a special talent. And we're all searching for nice ways to reconnect and to talk about the passerby. Stahl Jake and with a break in the action right now. I thought this was the perfect time. And I'm really happy that we got to take that you will enjoy before we get to the actual conversation. Though I I can understand that some of you may not be familiar with Jason Miller and what he's been through over the past ten years or so people like. Tst Out there who just started watching mixed martial arts. So here's a quick primer on who this man is. He made his debut in nineteen ninety eight. He started his career. Perfect five in his first loss came in two thousand and two to a young man named chill son. It pre bad guy. She'll senate. He won his first major title in two thousand four when he won the Super Bowl Welterweight title in Hawaii. He made his. Ufc debut in two thousand and five when he fought and lost to the Great George saint-pierre before he became a champion. He lost that fight via unanimous decision he left UFC after that. She has p fight. But that's really. When his career flourished he had big fights against Robbie lawler frank? Trigg and Tim Kennedy. He wanted the icon sport title in Hawaii again. He had a solid run in the Japanese based Dream Organization before signing with strikeforce in two thousand a night and that's when he really rose to prominence because the two thousand nine he also began hosting popular MTV show called bully beatdown where he challenged bullies to fight pro fighters that show lasted three seasons at really turned him into a big star. In and out of the sport of anime he ended up fighting. Jake shields for the vacant strikeforce middleweight. Title November of two thousand nine and almost. Swath that fight via submission. He ended up losing though via decision in the end perhaps his highest profile win came in September of two thousand ten when he defeated Japanese legend Kazushi Suck Rob via submission at dream sixteen he returned to the UFC in two thousand eleven when he signed to be a coach opposite Michael Best. Bang for the fourteenth season of the ultimate fighter. He lost a spin the finale in December of that year and what ended up being a final live. You have see main event broadcast on Spike TV his next and last. Ufc fight was in May of two thousand twelve at U. OF C. One forty six part of the fight. He actually said he retire if he lost the C. Alway. He did in fact lose and was released from the UFC. And that's when life really started to change for Jason Miller He. I found himself a legal trouble in August. Two thousand twelve when he was arrested after authorities found him naked inside a church in Orange County. California the vandalism charge against him was later dismissed in October of two thousand twelve. He was on my show the anime our he was there to promote a film that he was a part of called. Here comes the boom. It's an interview that a lot of people have asked me about since then it was a wild and somewhat frightening interview. Here's a quick clip. From that exchange there are some people who feel like the film here comes. The boom is a little too comedy. I know I know what you're talking about. I read the Internet. Yeah so can you say to those people? Why should they go out and watch this? Don't watch it okay. We want you not only in Borno also right not just areas. How have you cereals Hoani? Have you seen my show before I did my research? Okay do you like it? I think you're hor very nice. No no I just mean you know. There's good we're all. The world is full Timpson. Hose just talking about the ones. I know what I booked mayhem on this show from like one to two. I'm sorry lucky. Patrick Glenn Parade going down the street. Maybe stuck in traffic. Maybe I could get you. Maybe I can patrick from like one to one. Twenty and then mayhem can come on. What do you think there's a lot of what are you negotiating? Yeah Hey man. Listen on my sad when I was directing here comes the belong. Who's comes out October twelfth? When I was on it man we had it all worked out for him. So what are you doing? What do you mean shed break in bugging? No No? He's he's the producers coming out to fix the camera. I think because you've moved a little too much so what you've been on radio before. No no no. No no no no cameras on his actually working. There's no white man come on light. Let's keep Ma'am Ma'am come on man. Let's be real. Let's talk. You came all the way here came all the way here book book. You're going to have the like you know. What do you mean? I did schedule with him. He's yelling at the time. All I'm saying so let's talk. What's going on man about enough this? Are You fucking done done? What's GonNa fuck man has to be honest to be honest with you man? Y'All you guys have a fucking stupid Internet radio show. That's it you're going to do this. I know what I'm doing. This is not coughing and bad. Kkk This is your show by so ma'am and we've been through a lot. I'm concerned for I want to ask with your fucking crazy lucky patch. This is not the man. This is not enjoyable. This is not your hurt your feelings come back come back come back come back right now. This is not David Letterman. Show US man come on a week. Later I caught up with Jason Miller in Central Park to talk about that. And here's how that interview started. I understand we're starting in the interview. Now with Jason Miller. Yes officially fabric. I'm I'm not sure I did you do. I don't know you to did I. Not There's so much about. I know I know your first thing I wanted to call. I wanted to talk to you before all of that here. And now you give me a a whole lot more things talk about actually want to start backwards usually wanna start you know chronological order. But what was that seriously? What was that? I that you have a narrow view of the same as one on the Internet. You really think I do in a way. And here's why I don't go by opinion going back and the fact is during that interview you cannot accept me as an actor and character and I wasn't breathing. Lucky Patrick would tell you fuck off. This Miller love you to be honest after that conversation. I wasn't all that convinced that he was just playing a character that he was okay. I was happy. We're able to bury the hatchet so to speak. But that's the last time before today that I had a conversation with Jason Mayhem Miller in October of two thousand. Fourteen Miller barricaded himself inside his California home for more than four hours. After Sheriff's deputies arrived to arrest him on warrant related to domestic violence allegations lodged by an ex girlfriend. He live tweeted the standoff in March of Two Thousand Fifteen. He kicked a police officer. Spit at another cop at a restaurant in. Laguna Beach in October. Of Two Thousand Fifteen. He threw ceramic tile at deputies threatened them with a large fire extinguisher. He had to be subdued with a Taser. In January of Two Thousand Sixteen he spray painted graffiti on a wall of Tattoo. Parlor that same month. He cranked up the volume of a stereo in the same tattoo parlor blowing out there speakers in July of two thousand sixteen. He got into an argument with two women. One of whom slapped him in Costa Mesa and he was heavily intoxicated at the time according to police and he also grabbed the woman who slapped him by the leg was detained by security guard until police arrived he returned to fighting in. May of two thousand sixteen to fight for the Italian Assi However he missed weight by twenty four pounds for a middleweight title fight against former. Ufc fighter are not so he then fought someone else day. Mataya Shia veleon and on the card. He was submitted. The second round via rear naked choke has not fought since he fought that two thousand fourteen domestic violence allegation and was acquitted by jury in February of two thousand seventeen of beating up the former girlfriend but other charges involving his conflicts with law were set aside at the time for a separate trial. He pleaded guilty to beating his girlfriend in September. Two thousand seventeen. He was sentenced in November. Two Thousand Seventeen to one hundred twenty four days in jail and released with credit for time served. According to court records. He was arrested again in January of two thousand eighteen when he was found to be in possession of a bulletproof vest and various other weapons. Such as nunchucks knives a machete. An axe a Samurai sword replica salt. What Been According to the probation officers report police also found human growth hormone and various other performance. Enhancing drugs apparently obtained without a prescription in October. Two thousand eighteen. He was arrested for smashing large marble table girlfriends and violating a protective order to stay away from her. According to court records he was also accused of removing doors from the home and derailing the garage door in July of two thousand. Nineteen pleaded guilty to a felony counts of vandalism and a misdemeanor. Count of violating a protective. Stay away order. He was sentenced to a year in jail but was credited with time served. He was later released. In September of two thousand nineteen. He appeared on social media for the very first time in over two years and among the many things that he wrote was apology to everyone that he had affected during what he called a very dark time and he also asked people to reserve judgment on him until he's able to prove that he is a changed man so here. We are several months later. Talking to Jason Mayhem Miller once again to find out if he has changed at to find out what happened over the last eight years or so. I hope you enjoy the conversation. I WanNa thank him and also I want to thank someone on twitter named Joe Daddy Eighty five. Who has been pushing me to talk to May have for the last few months. I appreciate both jody and mayhem for the effort. And for of course mayhem for talking to us today. It was great catch up with him and I hope you enjoy it. Did you know that it had been almost eight years since we last interview? Bro? How do you know that facebook memories? I did not count the days down. I figured we'd always see each other once again. You know through a quarantine skype call or glorified one with the better business model You know it's nice to see you. Eight years is a long time. But you know time flies when you're having fun or when you're doing other stuff yes. A lot has happened in those eight years. But I will say during this quarantine and with everything on hiatus I try to talk to people and reconnect. People are just trying to do different kind of stuff than the day to day. Anime grind last week But talking to you has been something that wants to do for quite some time and a lot of have asked me. Hey why don't you connect prince for Jason Again and opposite stars in Aligned and the distance Mike all took a global pandemic to a whole world out. An aerial mayhem friends again. Who you see. This is one of the positive by proud drawing us together as Americans. It really should so just curious. Where do you live? Oh I'm in Orange County California report down of course Yep Line Irvine okay. Yeah you know the richest safest city in the entire country. Simon no big deal. And what do you do like what what's your day to day? Life looks like thing about this. Is the uptake am. I may have martial arts dot com traffic and the Jess students that I have now. That are the same way that we're talking right now. Accepting instead of these gamer headphones spiderman posters. It's like a heavy bag and like sweaty clothes in the corner and I don a guy to give me a switch left kick you know. And then stopover and give me a right and then a left Hook and you know we do that for about an hour and these beasts. These warranty beasts will be released because they're just becoming something even though it's just this two way mirror that I'm speaking through. I can mold some martial artists via the Internet. I mean that's what I've been doing. Hold time but now. I'm just distilled it down into its purest form and so may have martial arts dot com. Do a pretty good in the quarantine times. I'm glad that I'm giving us some young fighters like outlet and goal to work towards while. Now everything shutout so you have your own eme. Eighteen actual physical gyms. Well I do I you know. I don't have the physical Jim for the for the right reason because my group is international guys in Thailand guys in Poland you guys in Japan and I got plenty of them right here in the united like good old. Us obey tough like half Mexican. Kid I got like heavyweight coming in When the quarantine ends like it's say You know it's one of those things where you're forced to adapt and I don't think many people are really good at napping but I've done that my whole life. I started my mma careers like Jitsu Dude. It was slugger type highschool wrestling kind of mix. And then by the end of my light. Moreton kickboxer. Sorta guy were using my claims to But knees and and throw kicks so you always to doubt in a ball? And if I feel like you're doing it a delight your producers doing a bit like there's a lot of people that during this which admittedly terrible terrible time for everybody plot. I feel like there's a big glimmer of hope at the end of the tunnel and we're all running there and so as far as that's that's what you're doing that's your day job so to speak. You're still heavily involved in Any pending legal issues or is that all behind alone. I left that life behind I I would like full gangster for awhile and didn't serve me and I'll it didn't serve me well so I may be adjustment. I adapted I changed. I found healthier ways to you know because when I stopped fighting then that was like a giant hole you know I had the injury and and then suddenly there was void and I. I heard about it all the time from guys. I didn't believe it didn't believe it but happened. And you know I went to a dark place now. Not Me and John Law. Get along for the most part. We just Friendly acquaintances these days. Not a bitter enemies. Who who's Oh John? Law You say well talking about minor component. They're all used to jumping on. You'RE GONNA make this fight you're gonNA make this matchup. Hey I'm I'm thinking about it. I already have a fight. I owed is just true friends in Thailand. Have a place called Cope. P You may have known it from where like Leonardo capital shots of babies movie and I. It's just a beautiful man. Look quantity shots down era wanting I gotta get you out to. Kobe be is beautiful okay. you know. It's amazing now that you're not doing now covering anime professionally for fourteen years. I've noticed especially in the last couple of years that unfortunately whatever reason I don't know there's a good reason as to why vistas but I certainly think that this is the thing the newer fans the fans of today don't know about the greats of yesteryear you talk to the legends. Chuck WITHOUT BETWEEN BELFORT. And they don't know who these people are that category as well. You're one of the legends of the Sports. Your career started in nineteen ninety eight. I'm going to give a bit of a history lesson year right. Click on. I don't WanNa diminish your comedy but just for them off a list. Sounds little weird but you know what you will about reading anything right now. I'm looking I'll straight off the dome. Yeah nine thousand nine hundred. You started your career. You started five in your first. Professional loss was against a young man named Shale Sunan. Can you believe that? I just didn't know how to wrestle. Like that's the thing I would like new some white guy and this guy just like me into infinity like I just like all right and I just kept getting taken down and just kept it back up and going all right. I'M GONNA kick his head off this all right now. I'm going to try and go all right now. And then the time ran out and I had them in the craziest light. Eddie Brown Abo- like Shinchosha across his neck and I asked him about it and he told me you have your close because he was gurgling. Know it was an amazing fight like those fights and my young days. Oh my goodness and I hadn't I had never read into a guy with awesome like gel on it like I. I had only run into like you know like a high school wrestler Type Dude. Who Knew Sunau Judit sewer or maybe he's doing old school karate. Imac then we guys who just come straight on karate like learn to learn to wrestle for forty five minutes and then go fight and they were like hard kickers hard punches. But he's had to like learn to avoid in and hit a single leg you know hit a double and a or if you get Ended up on the bottom it with a triangle choke and now is the magic recipe but as you progress in the game you. You'll run into an expert wrestler. Who maybe doesn't have much kickboxing as you but light. A do a takedown over and over and over again and yeah that was. That was a crazy Wakeup call to a young Jason Miller. Not yet may have an the. Nfc is founded in ninety three to. You're talking about a guy who started ninety eight. I mean you're there on the ground floor despite the laws you're rolling you end up at Super Bowl in Hawaii. You win the welterweight title. They're they're becoming one of the big names in the sport make it to the UFC and at the time you only have one final UFC. Young man named George Saint Chair. You lose that fight via decision but you don't stick around for another. Why was it one fight veracity? This this is like boy down to money and respect mostly respect like the money to be made overseas was considerable at the time. Like very appealing for a young guy and I had just got done making that weight which is like the hardest thing I've ever done. I figured you know A. They're going to give me a title shy and Super Brawl. Which at the time was like the hot organization because TV wasn't really a factor so there was like this crazy colt of Internet before you to like trading tapes of Super Bowl and that was like the hard core may fan in those days. You know Rettig group. You know these guys have just do that. And so to me the allure of going to a beautiful island right Finding that a comfortable weight after I won the welterweight title and and the communication between the promoter myself in the management. All that like grit a perfect storm for me to head. You know a West and eventually Japan so you go back to Hawaii after that you win the icon. Sport title live great fights against the likes of Robbie. Lawler beat him. Frank trigg You Start Dabbling in Japan. You also fight Tim Kennedy At at fights apart of life I guess died the fight them all the time like. I'm still fighting them. Good my dad always sends me of tweets for the armed is stick together. I'm telling that's right It it it all changed for you in my opinion in two thousand nine. That's when mayhem really starts to become a big name because you signed with strikeforce but you also start hosting bully beatdown on MTV that last three seasons very popular. Show where you get a bullies. The fight professional fighters engage badges. Really Fun stuff and you fight for the vacant middleweight title against Jake Shields. You almost beat on your mobile submitted on CBS. That was open come close. Don't Kow seconds more. It's funny because like my losses get brought up and the reality is yeah. I lost to the best dudes in the world like those strongest grappler world. You know like and like what it got a decision right I You know it's the same thing. I coached the guys with and a lot of people. Just haven't naturally but I think you can also build it like a mentality that you're always like just one away from winning and if you can keep that positively going then eventually win you know at an I glide great wins the my career and if because I learned so much from every loss and so you have Also in Japan while dream the Jacques Array flights women. I can't. I can't stress this enough. When you're in your prime two thousand nine two thousand ten two thousand eleven but walkouts the interviews the persona the hair the MTV show. You're one of the guys that made me fall in love with them over. I want to cover the sport you know. We're on the cusp though errol like of a different revolution like there's like a new thing kind of happening but all have but. I want to stick with tonight. We'll get to. We'll get your buyer despite wins losses here and there. I remember I running into you in Las Vegas Ufc Ninety eight. I was not credential by saw mayhem. Miller of dream walking down a going to the UFC. Ninety eight which are infamous because your T.'s. Came out wearing the t shirt about the whites and asked you fight mets dream. Where's your press pass or do you want the scoop scoop you'll remember that? Don't I like hearing you say scoop mcgillicuddy about it? Yeah ally Ariel Hawaiian. I told you because I had already tried like produced television from the inside of those xenos now now now and I was cracking up because I was like look at this bold aggressive young journalism student. You know like he's just coming right up to me and dog meat because like back then like I don't know man. Yeah in my prime. Oh my goodness oh just an animal. Like I like didn't care what everyone had to say. Really I would really listen to people and I still don't you get back to the UFC in two thousand eleven You signed to how bill because television expertise. Yeah that you wanted me back over there. I helped them with the ultimate fighter. Yes and so forth and it was great fuck off the bad one visiting abandoned that season by I like one A pretty much in my head. I won my ability to be a real coach award. I was like Oh my God I can do this like I thought it would be hard because out so bad at waiting tables when I was a kid. I tried one time and I was dead. And you think it'd be like that but it's completely different because each fighter has zone needs and you cannot you can focus on Taylor that to create a beautiful work of art. You know this guy can now. What do a high kick that well and like you know step back and defended take down like he didn't know any of this just a little while ago and now he's busting moves it's very fulfilling. And so that's an interesting season affect your main event fight against Michael this thing is is on spike TV ON SPIKE TV. In fact it's the last main event ever live event ever to air on spike too. Because they moved on the Fox unfortunately three million viewers which is absurd for cable television Then we move over to the thoughts and you get one more fight at USC. Usc Forty six against CPT away prior to that said if you lose the CPU will retire after the fight. You lose. Dana. White says that he has released you because of a confrontation with Watson and back. Well Yeah I didn't do it. Burke said Yeah that's for sure if you WANNA call that confrontation but right before my entrance bird like stops me and tells me that my math doesn't look right and then I gotta take it off and I said why are you hassling right now. Burt Watson and I realized because somebody's in his ear buzzing 'em the man was telling him what to do but Watson for those that don't know was the man who ran the backstage area for the UFC very instrumental in those days And I remember Review Bela Tor now. Because I mean this is a very he doesn't know he does St FFC and he has his own small promotion but he never rebounded with a big promotion why they feel like he's a very strong talent like it's a very specific talent. The you have to have to do Bert. Watson's yelling in the back job. Bad like a booming voice very nice friendly demeanor and like because you're in there with like the toughest dudes in the world. Maybe the meanest some of them so it takes the real like showman Albert Watson To control the backstage like that so no hard feelings towards him down. No okay I'm glad to hear that I remember a couple of days. After that fight you came on my show at the time it was called the Ama our. You're very sombre. You said that you were going to retire. And it was really around then. We're talking about the summer of two thousand twelve where I feel like things started to change for you. You start to go down a different kind of passing. You just alluded to that with the career being over You don't know what to do and that was the first time that you kind of found yourself in legal trouble right. You're found in that. Church is one of those weird things were like you know. I've spent my life being a monk and cut weight and getting ready to fight spam all twenty why a regular people were like going to college and experimenting and Yeah I went to college real late vessel the trench delirious to be honest like I didn't sleep for days and then I just woke up and what I thought was. My house was at my house and I get plastered all over the damn headlines You know what I'm saying. Naked in the church. Aw brutal brutal. But it's like ten years ago feels like maybe a hundred I've changed so drastically since that time but I was living a life where I just took the governor off just like full-on like try to see what kind of crazy stories that I could get into all the time and look we all WanNa have light amazing crazy stories in our life at least a couple but I just was collecting a day by day by day by day and just nothing was fun to be so I just kept pushing harder to have more fun and I buy against it. I- buys against it. You know there's a balance in life and I I guess it just took a Lotta those problems to set me back balance When you say you were delirious they didn't sleep why are you doing? I ran for twenty eight miles outside. I never train for a marathon but I figured I could do it and my body was in good shape at the time so I just did another big mistake but you know I felt like I had to do it like I put my mind on. Something I- truck this nearly thirty miles. I could do it. I run this pch. Why we sad sad a man of injured they churns company said they were not going to pay for nothing. I all right. We'll find. I gotta saw everything in my life. Now what because I don't want to go into medical debt for the rest of my life so all right here what else you know. My management is gone. All my friends are gone. The reality of the situation you know. Of course. You're going to be sad moods just a reality situation and you know if you if you walk the my shoes. I guess you'd understand a little bit more. But we were all limited by our own perspectives. No I I understand the story of the fighter who comes to the realization that the career is over is a story that is often told your career's over but also your you know you're on the hook for so it's your fault there you go but like wait a minute. I thought were insured now. We're not not not for you. So that happens in August and in October. A your guests on my show him our studio down south performance so so for those that. Don't know your your guest to promote the show the movie. Excuse me here comes the boom starring Kevin James. Your character in the film underrated. Here comes the bow was have a a nine point five on rotten tomatoes no IMDB K. It really should. It should be. I mean it's better than mall cop one mall to it's better than the malk apart three two. They're probably GONNA come out with any day now if Kevin James Best work most emotional and MMA. It's a fun one But you you might Oscar your character. Lucky Patrick in that film and in the interview. You're playing like Patrick. And it gets a little cheated and you grow the the camera. You couldn't hundred lucky Patrick's like internal rage like you just couldn't disseminated usually. You're so good about being the Barbara Walters. Obama May and really getting guys to open up like a flower. But you know here's the thing too. Is it lucky Patrick never really made it as a firefighter made it as a tough guy on the streets so he was just like you know low level ever made by? Maybe that's why you could peel back like onion but in all honesty were you a hundred percent okay during that interview. No not okay. My whole life was in shambles right and I didn't WanNa talk to you. I wanted you to talk the Lucky Badger and okay. So that's why you came as the character I mean. There's no nothing for Jason Miller to talk about right. Well Ice House retirement. I is this a simple question. That's like day one question. That's not Arowana level question where you intoxicated Matt Really. Maybe like the days previous. I tried to like keep a rare with you. You know. Keep a clear head while it's doing that crazy stunt like I knew it was going to get weird. I didn't know how weird it was going to get. It just got to the next level but on the way out of your studio as I stormed out angrily. I gave a wink to like the cutest black lady. Like who's an office over there? And like everybody was congregate around because they saw and I just they were. They were mortified. You Lady knew I was just fucking around and not mentally ill but the rest of the guys thought otherwise. I understand it became huge news. I'm you till this day. People ask me about that interview concepts on thousands of interviews down. I get asked about the mayhem. Lucky Patrick interview and we we met up again exactly a week later in central park we had a long taught. And that's the last time we spoke parts today. That is wild regular. Here's the thing even in that interview where we sort of Peel back the curtain and we talked about the incident. Honestly I didn't feel like you're one hundred percent okay. I was so mad. I mean the aforementioned you know failure to pay medical. Bill is kind a big deal. Yeah you know and you know I was expressing myself it albeit a somewhat. You know not helpful to myself way but I felt like I needed to say something and I said it i. I've always been that way and I tried to build her out the not fit for consumption television right but it's hard. I speak from the heart. Did you ever get that cleared up that medical bill? Yeah baby how much was it? Well it depends on who you ask. Sign somewhere between a quarter million dollars and then I probably would. It really cost like you know hundred thousand okay and so we know who knows would buy insurance company right in a number right right right. I remember saying to you that day and I remember. You're eating at yogurt. Remember a lot of things about that. Germaphobe says. You could probably magic drain this hemming. I'm not exactly you drop like your fourth on the ground you pick up. You kept eating it. You're not concerned about that. I can't believe he's still you'd with saint during the interview I snatch. Somebody's watering and drank it. Yeah SO RANDOM. 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Sal Within reach modell brewed for those with a fighting spirit drink responsibly. Beer imported by crown imports in Chicago. Illinois loved modell support them because they support us now back to Jason Miller two thousand thirteen to two thousand nineteen. I mean a lot has changed for you since arrested. Multiple Times. You had the incident in. I believe two thousand fourteen or fifteen where you're live tweeting police standoff for four hours and I don't WanNa go through every single moment. We'll be here all day man. The thing will run over Do our the reality is that I was feuding with the police. Why you'd want to talk about it. I mean so many reasons like it just became personal like couple of incidents here and there and they have so much resources they can just leave somebody outside a house all the time you know and so again you know my life has been a fight like I'm always I always needs somebody defeat and I you know I picked them as an opponent and those terrible mistake and the reality is is that you can't do that. You know bad time made sense. I felt I felt like they besmirched me and I was You Know Challenging Authority now. I understand now they importance of it by the time I didn't you also had Multiple domestic violence incidents with the same as well. I mean multiple different like I didn't latapy pigment classes and some have learned. Is that even though? You're not doing anything wrong. You can be the person to incite an escalate and it doesn't help you in any way but if you're you know tied to calm conflict you you thrive on Conflict. You can escalate. You know the family situations to a point where somebody lose their temper and can't bound and then what do you do in this situation? I've learned that you can only control your actions so you remove yourself in the situation or you are you know get out You Gotta learn to coexist and feel like this is a lesson. Everybody's learning right now would would Gobert that We all need to like be responsible partners and friends I. I've learned so much about the dynamics of relationships in the past year that man. I don't know why would you know? I got in trouble for headlock in my sister. Why why do I have to escalate a tense moment? Why what is it about me? What did they inside me? It makes me WANNA react to conflict with more conflict and ever since I've learned that like my default setting is to needle into light. Have a comeback for everything is juvenile. It's ridiculous I don't have to do that all the time. I don't I don't have to fall back into my old Fighting ways where are you going to take me? I'm GonNa Right back like best you know I. I just continue that. I carried over that scale into another realm of my life and it took me. You know as part of a larger problem you know that I had just about life in general and you know how time heals all wounds. I guess 'cause I feel I feel like the best version B. B. How old are you now Dan near forty when you are involved in those incidents I would imagine because I know that a couple times found with drugs of that nature where you have Leonardo's Lewis of never bomb drugs as we call marijuana drug marijuana? Opiates you know I did I did dabble in that and really was a catastrophe. I feel all those people at the OPIOID epidemic. I was delirious when I took that stuff just couldn't think straight couldn't get together. You know like it was just. There's some Obama biology where I'll just like I can keep moving forever by hall man like your. Your brain is foggy. You know you wake up in a cell like that's the only thing they have for you. If you're having a problem like that you know and in many places. I recommend anybody that like goes into that. Does with the wary wary head. You know because you can get delirious is true. Where are you taking that stuff? Because her body was in pain. Because of I look I it was one of the things were you know what I mean like what I'm GonNa do. What am I GONNA do? They prescribed them because I was damaged hurt. That's the reality of fighting career. Is that if you do a long enough? You'RE GONNA end up with something some kind of wear and tear and yeah and there is in the right place but it just spun me off to a bad one. You know as I really I really. My heart goes out to anybody dealing with that of their family bill at that. It's it's it's a real. It's a real thing to real problem and I understand why why people having problems with them. I thought you said about You know having a an opponent with something you're so used to announce the cops rear opponent. What about The ideas like the music stops writer crowds popular fighter. Did you miss likes getting involved in these incidents? Live team standoff. Did you like that tension? It was the closest back fighting here. Sold out arena in a way but like you're following my logic like too far you're like I do you know I didn't think that far. Be through but you know I was passionate about a use of that was wrong and and I I got I felt a little Political Bent to the whole thing. Because I feel like I don't want America to be a military dictatorship and I I don't want it to be like some corporate war-scape you know where each individual militia the Walmart. Militia takes out the starbucks militia. You know I want that to happen in America. I don't think that'll Donna fathers had in mind and I. I don't think it's fair to populist. So I I guess I make an Misinformed statement about it. I remember seeing feature on. Hbo Israel Sports they had a segment on the won an Emmy No. They had a segment about domestic violence and Jason Editing Monster. Ruin my life worth. I know edited to make you look like I beat the shit out of Christy Mack. That is not true. No you did not that. That was war-machine. Jonkoping aver but it did seem very tense with the the reporter but also the surroundings in which the interview happens. Where was that? That was very scary to see you in that in that setting. It seem like you're not living healthy. Lives Nah I just wanted to show the world how scary my life was like. That was the reality of my life at that time. Scary weird girls like hiding in the bushes like chess. Negative like I did everything wrong to see how to do stuff right. I always learn the hard way. If you're going to be dumped it'd be dumped. What was in your opinion? What was the lowest point? Was Rock. Bottom? This is it right here. I mean come on what am I doing? Coming back groveling. Erawan oops sorry that. I knocked her toys over twenty years ago. No it's not that this is the lowest point can't be this. Maybe this is my highest point everything about that. Maybe after. This is all downhill bro. I'm just fucking laying in the gutter waiting for somebody to kick me down do you. You remember how many times you arrested Nano like a thousand and you jails per bra. I was in like the famous section of the jail like with the Denver to cut. Somebody's Weiner off neither like schizophrenic. Like murdered family guy. Shot everybody at the party. Another guy who murdered his wife 'cause he's cheating on him another guy like Shot a little kid because I he's a gang member in the shootout with another guy while you're jail. Do they know who you are. Yeah everybody knows me. I was running workouts in there like this. You know I just adapted. Those allies like most lifelike. Neither box small box icebox these fit in makes a damn annoying sound on day lights. Never turn off David. Wake up every thirty minutes Bang on the door. Check of your alive how Jeffrey Epstein Got Away with and how long the longest time was at a year. They spent their more two years less but in there. Okay what was ever a point where you felt like you couldn't take it anymore. You knew eventually you get out. No but I knew that like today the new day. Time to do something you know. I did very disciplined for twenty years of my fighting career. I think I can be disciplined enough to pretend that I'm on a spaceship flying through earth. Flying Cross the galaxy and I do push ups pull ups. Squats shadow box thirty minutes. Watch any Williams stupid conversations You know what I mean every once in a while. Get Lucky Watch Allen do a little dance you know and then. I'll go run on the yard. You know for an hour straight yeah it was like Spartan lifestyle read books. You know I I read like five hundred some odd books In there for sure and some of them weren't even comic books and did you alone. Yeah I was like Anna Segregation like Mega administrative segregation. Where you have to be like in a cell by herself which I mean. I guess that's like the Hilton was yeah is food. I mean Sorta the food and what you would call food or any civilized human. But all right I mean Nice thanksgiving Christmas new years cookies off the J. So the last time you were released from jail in two thousand eighteen was last year you that was it was in July or September of two thousand nineteen yes July July and then you emerged on social media. It's a timber you had not posted anything for around two years and the message was. That was the first time I was like. Wow you're starting to sound like the old Jason Miller that I met many moons ago I just want to read one. Quick thing that you wrote there he stuck with niece You said I'd like to take this opportunity to apologize to everyone that negatively affected during the start time cleaned friends family law enforcement the hat. I was talking about you who who might have abandoned for far too long. I'm sorry. Are you apologetic? Like yeah brought lifted. I is kind of a black eye in the sport pro while because like I just went turned it up so extreme like I just went to another place with with all my thoughts and actions man. That's no way to live like there's no way to keep friends is no way to like build. An empire like can't do that with you. Just gotTA spin hot fire. Everybody all the time you now at just going outside of humankind to accomplish something. That's not. There's no way to do that. New may have he's likable. Basser was the turning point. Well I sat box for a long time and I'll say this is that I finally had some like post incarceration treatment. You know what I mean like Like therapy in like to figure out why we went this dark path before. And you know since I've done that I feel like a new person and it's funny that you read that because even from bat time because I was really traumatized just the reality is that you come out of a box for year. And you're you know different now like and the and the world has moved on in this year and it's like overwhelming to adapt to and I see why we're citizen rates are so high because you have no guidance usually and finally a lucky enough that you get a good judge and the judge figured out that. Hey look. This guy is having a problem. He needs some type of treatment when he gets out of here. But you know he made me sit there for a long time and once you reassess in you have this quiet to do it You know moments quiet. You reassess the complete way that you've looked at the world. I don't recommend it for anybody but if you're brave enough you can do it. Did someone in particular help you like what you signed a guidance counselor. Psychiatry your therapist. There was very like entail yet barry. She's pretty educated like very intelligent person. Like you could tell that like Whatever field manual. She's reading from top of that. I suppose the other people that you've talked through throughout the day Ma'am. They have a different jacket. They have a whole different in my section. Have a whole different List of crimes. You know serious ones so I think that that was part of the reason. It was easier for her to get through to me when you are in your prime. Were you taking any kind of medication like did you? Did you know that you had any kind of mental illness? Well of course I got AB HD. Come on how many times. I spun off but Jadu the testing your. You weren't allowed to take anything for that so in all aware without because if not certified by the drug testing agency you know. I'll be delirious time home by not a now all the way focused. Are you taking anything for that now? Yeah so got me on a regular schedule and like you know. This is part of my life. Do you feel better you taking it. Yeah definitely I like feel more lucid clear Focus for sure. You know that that science do. Are you diligent about taking the medication? Yeah that that's a common thing I hear is that people don't make they go off. And then you know I I know this I feel like Anybody WHO's Adding touch of mental. Anything you know can identify. Did you feel at any point like Ma turned on you like? Did you feel like you gave them a male showroom for sure that mentors it for sure of course health popped up at everybody but you know like because at the everybody understands now that you know? I'm a legend in sport but at the time was just some angry guy who just lost the fight and the the crowd just sees what your latest fight it is you know they only remember what just have recently so you know they they turn on me. I said `I'm turn it on you. And that's why I gave the jerk interviews. Hbo Guy Because I was mad about the whole situation that I could get a get dumped. Balk like that. That's you know that's like a hard reality. Learn you know and Yeah I do. I regret some of out for sure. But you know it's in the bathroom. The best me. Are you still mad at the sport like you still not totally not I gave up? I gave that up like a long time ago because I had other stuff to worry about. You know in the meantime even though I did get in trouble a lot and I did. I was like you know Hustling this is that you know business in others. Just I was I still coach guys throughout this crazy period. So a lot of people have wild stories about about my about me. Hold pads are doing something you know off-color but it's all it's all gob smiling stories these days a couple of times. You're facing like twenty years in prison. You always cut up. I don't WanNa take out lucky but you've got to let you know that that's part of it. System there Ariel dam sure privy to where they stack the charges against you. So you know every little thing you do. That's another year now the enhancement. You know the California law that way a bit like now. They can bargain because they got. This is a twenty year crime for escaping the cops for a minute and then then caught and then escaping again and got caught again. That that's like eight felonies right there something you know what. I mean incident that you I as ever made fans will look at as house nice scramble bats felonies. I'll just curious when you were facing bees. You know multiple years in prison. Were you scared? Were you nervous? Yeah but no like I. I had bat reality. Same as a fight right. If you lose a fight it'd be terrible but you have to like make sure that you know how to deal with it and just figured I'll deal with it when it gets here. You know the same as a fight and you know of course it affects you but yeah I I really think the anime a turn the rest of my stressors down in the midst of all of this back in two thousand sixteen. You did take one more fight. You had one other fight outside dollar fight and you showed up twenty four pounds overweight twenty eight twenty eight twenty eight pounds overweight for a middleweight title contract. Dry Out just pay the money on there. What did you just thought? I just WanNa have fun. Never been to Italy in. I mean I've been appalling and Roger and Japan and Brazil and outfight island but I had never been to Italy and I just wanted to see a couple of things over there. You don't have any aspirations fighting ever again right. I don't know man. All My students are telling me that. Oh my goodness that. I'm just like world class right now so I mean what is GonNa know in the heavyweight. Nah Nagano Japanese guy. Different go I don't know just kidding. I'm just kidding. I was tired of the Ghana. Okay I'm out by like two three hundred seventy five dollars okay. What would you miss most about meeting fighter man? Well the simplicity where you just have to think about what's running like I get that in training but it's different it's being selfless and now as a coach versus being selfish as fighter because you. Kinda just have to like work on your whole game all by yourself. The your your coaches are helping you. Obviously by really comes down to what efforts you put it. What were you good? When we're you your happiest as a fighter like what was the high point of your career in your opinion thing maybe when I kick jock right in the face and like spray blood all over to Japanese fans. I think that was the best time. Yeah I'll keep them covered in blood. Just the referee is telling me no no fucker fucker. 'cause telling him fuck you yeah. I got a reset happiest right now but may be my favorite photo of all time. Involves you At it was taken by the Great Esther. Lend them yes it was after you submitted. Kazushi Sacramento Bonds in two thousand ten. And you you were battling over him and there's a light above it's almost like a soul man. God Leslie I got down like you know. That's just one of those things. Where like fine art intersects with pop? Culture SORTA THING. Yao It goods the the skill that to like. Make this perfect shot. Just I duNNo. She's just magic. That esther the for you. That was a big deal to fight Japanese legend in Japan. Soccer above the and one in that one specifically. Because if you don't remember like million years before that choked out rampage rampage spring yet but right after that fight. I literally watched that bite spy rampage like a week later like in California. We started being buddies because of you know that that first stop for training camp with Tito Ortiz. Up in big bear and We all like legendary time to be a fighter. We didn't even call anime back. Then you know and years later when I had opportunity to buy like Robinson deathly Oh my goodness I'm getting back for rampage by also. I was so like inspired by that. Man How creative grappling was how he would scramble. And you know what I mean. And how he beat Gracie's dislike just gutted it out you know to me all that was really inspiring as a binder. So you know the beat him. I was very ankle. Blessed blessed you watch may I jump back in like four feet in the past like Arnold five months? I'm no fan. I'm pretty stoked I'm pretty stoked about. I don't have my favorites yet but I'm pretty stoked about the sport I just got back into it so I'm a new fan to everybody when you didn't like when you're in jail you watching it or totally at all. They had a couple of free ones on there. Didn't they while inside and we did watch them And then whenever a big show big pay per view all the guards would ask me. What's my pets? They would back away based on my man. This is a damn underground economy right here. Yeah and then I. I WANNA pack a Rama noodles of Tito Ortiz Chocolate Dell the one recently the last one yes. But isn't that isn't that like for you. Was that wildlife. Here you are watching talking about the. You're there you're fighting at MGM Grand. You were fighting at Saitama. Terrible DECISIONS IN SOCIETY WON'T STAND FOR IT. I don't blame them. You Know I. I was making terrible decisions. Yeah you know I heard about George burst my business and then inside the house in Dungeon at that point a dungeon they had me in a dungeon errol like sixties all day in like six split box at because I was like I dunno jerk to somebody somewhere they house name this like. Oh my goodness just on nightmarish place. You'd think the County Monte Cristo is in the basement for how long house there for a while only to a worse basement so it was a months and months and months brought six blocks from the bar stood up you know like old school bars gudgeon. So like solitary confinement. No it's it's Segregation by like you could reach out of the bars and like hand each other stuff. It was like a different kind of segregation wasn't like I wasn't in light the X. Men jail which I would later go words like a plexiglass wall. I was in like manner sewer. I don't know I don't know what it was. But it was a very dangerous place but adjacent in all honesty like for someone who has some kind of mental illness to be stuck like that. That's dangerous right the America America. Ofri how did you? How did you overcome that? How did you get through Dallas? What what were you thinking about? What were you doing you know? I guess it's just different like a coping mechanism to deal with exercise. A good one. I read and studied a lot. That was the thing that I got angry. And said I'M GONNA COME? Outta here so much smarter than it'll be worth it. And maybe I did. Maybe been the jury still out by do know a lot of factoid these days and you know a lot about Mongolian empire definitely Song Goldens and where did you study? Well you know I learned about China through one Called the Thousand-year MARATHON I remember. This one was like kind of instrumental because I didn't look that China as an thing by you know where my company produced but I got more into the geopolitics of of the situation. An an understand what they're doing right what we're doing wrong and what we're doing wrong. They're doing right right. And so you say you just read a lot. How did you get these books? Is a library. Had A lot of support out there from people that you know they knew they are and I appreciate it so much man. It was amazing because without that my brain would turn to mush. You know because there's not much going on and they're like yeah. It was It was crazy man. I got so many stories of all those murderers I named you. I don't know why over there in that section but that was the high-profile section met some interesting characters. They're Erawan I'll tell you that much by ever raise book saved my life. I'll just oh man. I even like could read Spanish now. Yeah I'm not very good at speaking but I can understand it now. It's pretty. That's a pretty useful skill here in California because you're a pro fighter that anyone ever try to test you. How'd that go okay to that happen a lot? Okay not something you want to talk about Nas. Fine No Interestingly enough last Friday was the ten year anniversary of the Nashville Brawl on CBS. Is that crazy? Oh Oh my God. Years ago. Y'All that was a blast. I didn't know what all the hubbub about. I didn't even know why everyone was angry at me. I'll they thought we're GONNA do this. Reimagined okay does not that the biggest regret of your career that you never got anywhere. Donald Roller that you didn't get the Nikki. S fight garbage delays. And you know what I mean. It's here's the thing though. I think we're both by getting tired of this but I think he's got like a young dude can fight my young dude. I feel like that would be hot and we're in talks. Somebody's in talks with them right. Now Okay Yeah. That would be a nice wine to like. Let's let's fire back up. The rivalry united made years later ten years later fire. Backup MC Diaz. You got any guys what's up you. Have you ever talked to somebody? Not I'm talking to longtime ago got got wild with the damn bar though. I think you bury the hatchet. But I'm rated digging backup backup. I feel like we have some good shows this this guy if I if I know about those news up there. They're trained hard all done. Are you still close with any of your friends? Emma may fighter friends for back in the day or do you have friends around not Horwitz somewhere around here. I I dunno where he'll show backup sometime but yeah. A lot of the newer guys came in. So I've been friends like the next generation. Now got somebody out there at Conor McGregor team. Who's training right now? You know I I. It's like a new wave. You know a friends in anime but yeah feel friendly would would most any but I. I don't think I have beat personally with with anybody. Maybe maybe like one or two that I don't know okay. You just saying it like it could be a one or two people who'd be. Maybe I'm like no one. Doug do right depends it depends grab pretty sure everybody pretty cool man. What about your family? Are you still contact with them? Too Much Sometimes Amami. Send me so much beautiful. Little paintings that she done like. Oh my God my love these but okay. I love okay. This wouldn't even more. Never mind keeps an opinion survey by the way who gave you the mayhem. Nickname BARONI EVENT. That yeah the NY BA who still out there like kick ass and more with that August. We're what we're watching ROBOCOP. I could be wrong. I don't remember what movie was but I was. I had just launched into one of my tirades about this that the other you know how. I'm pretty good at complaining. And he just like flipped over on the couch after train me skies full Chimera and I was. I actually just saw Bill Albuquerque Office. Staying at the Jackson wake. Jim Tried to figure things out so good to hear that he was the one that gave you i. I didn't know if I I don't know if I ever do that. Sorts out so so you have had a situations in the past. We've come on you've apologizing you're back on track wise now different. You can do it on now. I don't if I ever apologized. Nah I did so what was different now. Man I feel great man martial arts dot com taken off. Everything's falling into place like this lake and it's like it's been a wild ride. You know I'm not GonNa lie and you you just alluded to it by reading my rap sheet America. But I'll tell you this is that Ma'am. I never really looked at older. Dudes were respect and now have such a deep respect for anybody even six months older than because like it just takes time to learn things and process and learn how to deal with yourself and I. I bought a winning track right now. I'm just I just feel honored like I just feel honored to be man. Wow that's amazing. I have to say you know like I said at the top. I really didn't think we'd ever talk again and This is worn by heart. I thought we would just you know? Go in separate directions honesty. I thought maybe in jail and the worst of all baby is here. Maybe because it was scary a limited. Everybody apologized everybody I did. I went too far a winter far all the time. And I'm sorry for that airline hope we stay in contact. You know touch base especially when this thing. Let's up off of us right so that we can break down next big fighting. See Who House GonNa win. Can you guarantee now that you stay out of trouble that you will love your arrested again incidents? I appreciate your concern. Yeah I'll be okay. I'm here I promise nothing dog but yeah I feel great man I. Everything's going good. I'm happy here that Jason. Good to talk to get my friend. I wish you best mayhem. Martial Arts Dot com where people can see more of what you're doing you're back on social media back tweeting back doing your thing. And I hope that you're able to develop the next young crop of fighters that remind people about what made you so special is a fighter. Honesty's it's great to talk to you. It's great to to see you again and I really appreciate your Janus at thanks for bearing with me as a rehash some not so precious. I look as soon as I could. Stop talking about the bad part of my life so much. Better thank you all right once again. Thank you very much to Jason Miller. Never thought I talked to him again and it was nice to reconnect and I feel from that conversation hour or so long a I feel like he is in a better place. It sounds to me like we're we're starting to see the reemergence of the old Jason Miller. Pray that is the case that he no longer finds himself in trouble on that he gets the help that he needs. He stays on that That regimen of taking his medication Because I can't stress this enough in his prime on eleven or so years ago. He was a true talent. Ed He did a lot for the sport of Maine. It's great to see that. He's trying to give back now and training fighters so we wish her the best and I really appreciate him spending some time me today. I enjoyed that all right now. Time for everyone's favorite segment of the week presented by our good friends over modell setting the gold standard for authentic Mexican Beer. Since one thousand nine hundred. Five modell brewed for those with a fighting spirit. It's time now for this. Gst's minimalist tip of the week Mayhem Miller. I enjoyed learning autumn today. I'll get interview true false prior to today. You had no idea who mayhem. Miller was absolutely no idea. I mean most of the time that you tell me you can touch me today for the show. Hey this is what I want to have on most time. I have to do a quick Google search to figure out who the heck you're talking about and when you started to do your research about him what did you think well. The first thing that came up was your interview with a lot that you referenced many times throughout the show and me being friends with you. I was quite offended by what happens in in quite understand what happens. I'm still very new to this. Combat Sports World of everyone playing characters and sticking character sometimes never leaving their characters and so I was very offended by an. I felt bad ten years after the bacteria to the point where you almost felt like. Why are you having the sky on right? Yeah I was like why does he wanNA have long like I felt? They were so disrespected in that moment and I kind of view that you wanted to go talk to him again after that I mean he wants your set in New York and kind of like. Yeah he climbed on your desktop equipment disrespecting whether you're playing character nuts and it's Kinda rude so I was offended. Well I appreciate that but in the end I hope you enjoyed it and learnt a little bit about one of the game as we like to say and I am genuinely happy to hear that. He's OK that he's in a better place and I hope that that remains I do too so getting to This week tip so as we are all learning throughout this quarantine. Thank minimalist are kind of well braced for this light because so many people are finding out what is essential essential items meanwhile minimalist become. You know the whole time. So that's why I wanna tie this into like minimalist fitness routines to a gym. Where you don't have access to all the equipment the treadmills or the dumbbells or the last holdout machines. I've kind of been bracing for this my whole life because I'm a great homework cow guy so obviously of course you know you can go rhino area. No you go for Rod. You got this whole Wani. Boxing thing going on which I consider that a workout. You say that you're you know some hero for getting people active. I think it's kind of nine exercise heading out myself a hero. I've never call myself a hero. I'm just trying to get people moving a little bit. I mean what's what's better that or you know being on the couch playing video games and stuff. Listen stuff about playing video games. But it's no No calories shred or like real shadowboxing shadow boxing rate on your part today great staple about working out at home so what? I suggest my minimalist workout is if you're getting home is put a timer on eighteen minutes. Twenty minutes twenty five minutes thirty minutes. Whatever you're feeling whatever you've got in the tank and so a great man was routine involving no equipment just your body. It's amazing what you can do with the body so say you do an upper body say push ups or you can be very resourceful in your home made you have a little table that you can do synthetics on or you know you need a way maybe have a breaking your backyard cinderblock in your backyard. I myself have used a cast iron pan as a weight in the past. So say you do in upper body workout a lower body workout. Mason swats me watches. You know maybe with a household item or not an end maybe some core ward or some kickboxing wherever it made you do. X. Amount Reps who say I'm GonNa do this amount of so we. Do you do your upper body lower body core your three to four workouts in rapid succession in the amount of Reps. That you're going to do then. You take a thirty second break in between your set of all those workouts and they get back at it and you do that for your allotted time. You're eighteen twenty twenty five thirty minutes. That's my favorite at homework out. But of course there's many other things you can do with adequate without jams and I think people are going to come out of this quarantine realized that this is a big win for minimalism. That people are learning. That maybe don't need all these fancy bells and whistles to be fit or always fancy bells and whistles to do other things while despite your unnecessary shot at me. I do agree. I do think that a lot of people are realizing in all facets not just working out like little things like oh you know what maybe. I can't cut my hair and save thirty dollars every time. I don't try to take any business away from Barbara's but I do think people are reinventing the way they look at their lives and changing up certain things so that's very interesting also. Speaking of minimalism Can help notice? I was scrolling through twitter recently and I stumbled upon your on and off again twitter feed. And you have to shout to podcasts. Which I think is great and I'd like you to give them a shadow right now but what was interesting was you said this is the best podcast that. I've heard in quite some time and I thought well that's funny because here's a podcast producer of mine like my podcast producer. Save this the best podcast. He's quite time I figure. He listens by PODCAST. Felt like a bit of a shot. Am I wrong wrong for feeling that way? No No it was no shutting you. I will just say that on my own time on my own. Podcast listening timing. Of course I listen to all your shows yes but more so not for you but just to make sure that item editing up right right so I was in on my own time to shows like this one in particular. This was Jeanie kills inspire us for some. I listen to spy guys. He's pretty well known. Comedian I gather by the way she gamma fan. Yes yes. He was on Joe Rogan show so I found that out about so big guy but he had on his most recent podcasts Ryan Nicodemus. Why reference on the show? Last week he is a famous online minimalist. He's one of my. Inspirations for minimalism and so I wanted to hear what he had to talk about. And they conversation that Ryan and Jamie had wasn't amazing commission. I mean the best podcast. You've heard quite a bit. I mean maybe the mayhem one rivals dead or different right different but I will say that one of your It is not specific. Show but your podcast APP. So your interview that you did with Dan Levato on South Beach sessions. Net is one of maybe like five podcast in my life. I've listened to multiple times sold multiple times. I've listened to that trying to get to know your story in a yard way. What wow Would you say that? That's what you realize you know what here. I am getting to work with this guy. I should really be appreciative of this. I mean this is a special talent. Who's been through a lot and has seen a lot of experience a lot? Is that something that went through your mind? Sure let's go all right. I'll take that. I mean after multiple insights very vulnerable during this time you know. I'm just trying to help people out with my Hawaii boxing gear. Which by the way you could get on Libor? Calm the brother of Dan Laboratory. Did you know that an brother is a great artist? And he designed that shirt for me in all. The proceeds are going to feeding America so go to LIBOR DOT COM right now to The purchase at one hundred percent of the proceeds. Stomaching a dime off of any of this trial. I'm trying to do good for others as you have taught me to do and I feel like together we are. We are making a difference on this planet. I want to throw a here some more more good words here. A Five Star Review. It is titled. I don't know who it's he didn't lead he or she did not leave name. 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The Most Influential Life in History

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49:55 min | 11 months ago

The Most Influential Life in History

"It does truth exists because you have faith. Does that make this book? Does God exist so when someone says there is no truth if you apply the claim to itself. What should you say is that true? They don't think Christianity Truth. There talked out of it. You know why because they've never been talked into it. Cross examining skeptical and view. Welcome to cross examine with Dr Frank Turek number of years ago I was at the University of Maryland. One of the many universities as easy for me to say universities have had the privilege at which to speak over the years and we were done with the. I don't have enough faith to be an atheist. Presentation number of atheists hung out after the presentation was over and we were just talking in one of the young men there was saying some pretty negative things about the New Testament and he was saying things that really weren't true about the New Testament. So I finally said. Have you ever read the New Testament? And he was flummoxed he froze the answer was he had never read it and I said look. I don't care where you're from. Honor Care What your background was or how you were brought up. Jesus of Nazareth is in arguably the most influential human being ever walked the earth. You'RE GONNA call yourself a seeker of truth. You have to at least read. Would he allegedly said and did you? I mean you may read it and think it's not true you may read it and call it bunk but you got to at least read. What the most influential human being to ever walk the earth supposedly said and did otherwise. Don't call yourself a seeker a truth. Why would you call yourself an atheist if you've never investigated the person around whom the world's largest religion is centered? Why would you do that? And how did this one solitary life become the most influential human being in the history of the world? In fact there was a sermon about one hundred years ago called the one solitary live. It's very short little sermon. I'm going to read it to you. Actually have it in the book? I don't have enough faith to be an atheist. Here's what this sermon actually said. Speaking of Jesus of Nazareth he was born in an obscure village. The child of peasant. He grew up in another village. Ori Worked as a carpenter shop until he was thirty then for three years. He was an itinerant preacher. He never wrote a book. He never held an office. He never had a family owned a home. He didn't go to college. He never lived in a big city. He never traveled two hundred miles from the place where he was born. He did none of the things that usually accompany greatness. He had no credentials but himself. He was only thirty three when the tide of public opinion turned against him his friends ran away. One of them denied him. He was turned over to his enemies and went through the mockery of a trial. He was nailed to a cross between two thieves while he was dying the executioners gambled for his garments the only property had on earth at the time when he was dead he was laid in a bar grave through the pity of a friend. Twenty centuries have come and gone and today he is the central figure of the human race. I am well within the mark when I say that. All the armies that ever marched all the navy's that ever sailed all the parliaments that ever sat all the kings that ever reigned put together have not affected the life of Man on this earth as much as that one solitary life unquote if there was no resurrection. How could dislike? Be the most influential life of all time. How could that be ladies and gentlemen think about it? Think about all Jesus of Nazareth accomplished since one thousand nine hundred and eighty seven years ago when he was brutally executed. How could that one life be the most influential life of all time? Maybe because he actually rose from the dead and that's what we celebrate this weekend but could have risen the dead. I mean really. What evidence do we have for that? How can you believe such a thing but what I'd like to do here? Today is to talk about some of the evidence for the resurrection of Jesus of Nazareth. There's a lot of it. I can't get through it all in one sitting. We have books written on this. Many people have written books on this. Not just me obviously. There's a lot of evidence that Jesus rose from did. In fact you may know that every day through this corona virus season when we're locked down or live at eleven thirty. Am On our facebook. Page pages cross examined Dot Org Dr Frank couric and also on our youtube channel. The Cross examined Youtube Channel and our website and even now on twitter. We're streaming a one hour live show called hope one. We're trying to bring hope to people we've done ten shows because we've been on for two weeks this this fat past week. We've had Dr. Dan Eichenberger on he was on Monday. He's our medical doctor. That's gives us updates on the corona virus situation. Tuesday we had the great Dr John. Lennox you can watch that show. All the shows are archived on our youtube channel on facebook pages. We've had Dr Mike Lacona on talking about the resurrection on Wednesday and then on Thursday. I talked about the four things to do in a crisis. These are the four things the apostle Paul did in a crisis. Watch Wednesday's show. I'm sorry Thursday. Show for things to do in a crisis. I'm not going to repeat myself here. You can just watch Paul four things in a crisis and we ought to do the same thing and then just Friday Good Friday. We had the Great Jack Hibs Pastor Jack hibs on from the from Calvary Chapel Chino Hills mazing guy. Great Church just spoke out there a few weeks ago and Jack. We talked a lot about the passion. We talked a lot about Jesus. We talked a lot about salvation and sanctification and took a lot of questions that we in fact we took questions every every one of these programs so avail yourself so those shows coming up this coming week on Monday. We're GONNA have Brian Crane. Who is the CEO of the Orange County rescue mission? What can you do to help the people who need food and clothing right now and the homeless on Tuesday were planned to have Dr Steven Maier on to talk about viruses. What are they are? They are intelligently designed Wednesday Charlie Kirk from Ernie Point. Usa is scheduled to be on if you haven't heard Attorney Point USA amazing on Campus Ministry and then We've got some other shows coming up after that but checkout hope one because we're doing the show live every day I hope it's actually bringing hope now one thing before we get into the evidence I gotta say about this virus situation and struck me just this week. Do you realize that we know more about the morality of the Corona virus than we do about the science of the Corona virus? You realize that what I mean. By the morality we know with certainty that it's wrong to allow a virus to indiscriminately. Kill people if we can prevent it because we know people are valuable. They're made in the likeness image of God and we want to protect them. Almost everybody agrees with that. We will earn no what this virus is and what its transmission rate is and what its death rate is and how it's transmitted we know. We know more about the morality than the science of it. Think about that. In fact you know more about the morality about your own behavior. Then you know about scientific issues you know you need to save your more than anyone. I do too. But why do we have these different models out there? That started out saying it'd be two point five million people dead if we did nothing and even the models that said if we really lock down the country we could lose up to two hundred and fifty thousand people now. The models are saying we might lose only sixty thousand or maybe even less. Why because we don't have the data. We know more about morality than we do about science. In many instances in fact you know much about science unless you had a moral code like part of the Moral Code is report your results accurately when you're doing science that's part of morality and if I had more time we'll do this in the future program up. I'd like to point out to you that in order to even do science. You need certain metaphysical principles that can't be proven by science. In addition of morality you need cause and effect you need the laws of nature. You need uniformity. You need so many other things you to your senses can understand the truth about the real world. Those are all metaphysical claims philosophical claims rather than they are scientific results. Anyway when we come back we'll talk about the evidence for the resurrection. Did it really occur because if it did? It's our ultimate hope. If it didn't occur there is no hope. I'm frank trigg. You're listening to. I don't have enough faith to be an atheist. We're back in two minutes. Ladies and Gentlemen. Can you help me with something? Can you help me get this podcast before more? People not only tell your friends about it but go up to I tunes and put a five star review on the. I don't have enough faith to be atheist. Podcast if you do that it will help us. Move the podcast up the chart so more people will hear it. Thank you so much for partnering with me on this. Did Jesus of Nazareth most influential human being ever walked the earth who never traveled more than two hundred miles from his home. Who Never wrote a book? Who never led a business who never went to college? Who never led an army for lead people politically did that person? Jesus of Nazareth really rise from the dead. That's the question. Well in order to answer the question we have to figure out. Is it really true that God exists because there can't be a resurrection unless dot exists because resurrection is something that overpowers the laws of nature? And if there's nothing beyond the laws of nature then how can you say Jesus could have resurrected from the dead and a lot of people will philosophically rule out a resurrection because they say miracles don't occur now as you know as we've covered many times in this program and we cover quite a bit on college campuses and High School Campuses and in Churches? There's very good evidence that God exists in fact one primary piece of evidence that God exists. Is that the universe exploded into being out of nothing that once there was no space time and then the entire space time continuum leapt into existence. Out of nothing. This is a even lead atheist scientists to admit the universe had a beginning. Stephen Hawking famously said almost everyone now believes that the universe and time itself had a beginning at the big bang unquote well if the universe had a beginning then whatever created the universe must be beyond the universe is space time and matter beginning out of nothing would ever created space time and matter seems to biologic would have to be something space. Lois timeless immaterial to create the universe out of nothing personal in order to choose to create because impersonal forces can't create can't choose anything they just do the same thing over and over again. The beam would also have to be intelligent. You get this from the fact that space time and matter how to beginning so whatever created space time and matter must transcend it must be baseless. Timeless immaterial powerful personal intelligent at the very least now. This doesn't necessarily prove the Christian God but it seems to disprove atheism. There must be a a mind being out there. It's baseless timeless immaterial. Powerful personal intelligent being out there chose to create the universe in other words Genesis. One one appears to be true in the beginning. God created the heavens and the Earth Genesis. One one is true then. Resurrection Possible. In fact of genesis one one is true. Every other verse in the Bible is possible. You just can't rule it out because you say well. Miracles DON'T OCCUR. Well the greatest miracle the beginning of the universe out of nothing has already occurred so lesser miracles inside the universe or certainly possible. If God create the universe out of nothing you can certainly resurrect Jesus from the dead first piece of evidence. We have a theistic universe and their other arguments. You know for God. That's not the only one but let's to stop there. This is that the universe and miracles or at least possible you just can't philosophically ruled ruled them out. Secondly love exists. How is that an argument for the resurrection? Well it's it's not an argument directly for the resurrection. It's an argument. That says there's a bean that created us that loves us. And if he knows that we're in trouble in the sense that were centers and we need someone to take our punishment he might come and save us and everyone knows love exists. But what is the ground of love? God's nature if God is a loving being you would expect. He would come at some point to rescue us he does. We should expect God to somehow rescue us. And according to the scriptures according to Genesis three five three fifteen I should say as soon as the crime occurred. Redemption Plan was put into place. I prophesy is genesis. Three fifteen that God's GonNa send delivered a crush the head of Satan. It starts there. The rest of the Bible is the story of that redemption. Plan fact if you had to some of the Bible in one word it'd be the Word Redemption You have Paradise Lost Genesis. Paradise regained in revelation. Everything in between is the story of redemption and God because he loves US sets that plan into place you also have old testament prophecy that points to a messiah who would be a suffering servant who would die and pay for our iniquities Isaiah Chapter Fifty. Three we've been through that many times before you also look at Daniel nine. If you do the math on Daniel nine by the way you find out that the Messiah would come and be cut off in thirty three Ad. We've covered that in the book. I don't have enough faith to be an atheist you've got the Messiah would be born and he'd be called eternity. He would be born in Bethlehem according to Mica five to by the way there are two Bethlehem's and in Israel you know there's one in the north and one in the south it actually names the right. Bethlehem to it's one in the south down near Jerusalem you got. Old Testament prophecy talks about this and Jesus is the only one that fits these old testament prophecies by the way this Messiah would come from the Line of David Jeremiah. Twenty three born of a virgin. He was born of a virgin. Actually and by the way born of a virgin. Why is that important? Let's just another miracle. No it also seems to indicate that the born of virgin the reason Jesus born of a virgin is not just for miracle. It's so Jesus doesn't have a sin nature. Apparently the nature is transmitted by the man. Sorry guys we're we're the carriers but a woman impregnated by the Holy Spirit would give birth to a baby that didn't have Sin Nature. He's innocent doesn't vicinity. Adam doesn't have a sin nature. Jesus didn't but he was hundred percent human. So you got all prophecy. Also you've got early testimony. The New Testament documents are written very early and the data from which some of New Testament documents are taken or are informed or these. This data informs the New Testament. Documents are extremely early for example if you go to first. Corinthians fifteen earliest evidence for the resurrection anywhere in the Bible. If you go there you're going to read that there was a creed in for there is a creed. In first. Corinthians chapter fifteen versus three eight. I've time to read it right now. But the creed tells who Jesus appeared to that. He was buried that he rose again that he appeared to so many people that creed even atheists agree goes all the way back to the event itself. Bardem and the famous atheists says this is within one or two years of the of the alleged resurrection of the Crucifixion. So we're talking in the early thirties. Ad or thirty five at the latest. Yes Paul wrote that in First Corinthians which he wrote in about fifty five ad but it comes from and oral tradition a creed that was in a rhythmic form so people could memorize it easily. It comes from near right near the event itself so the documents are early and some of the sources for the documents are extremely early like this creed Gary Habermas. You know the top scholar in the world and the Resurrection wrote a book number of years ago called historical Jesus in which he identified at least forty one creeds better found in the new testament this is probably the most famous one first. Corinthians fifteen versus three to eight. This isn't the these stories made up. They're not even made up decades later. They're not made up at all but they don't even come decades later because the creed in particular is quite early and the earliest documents in the New Testament are probably written in the forties. Ad Some some have even suggested the late thirties. But it's early regardless because you have very early testimony this is not legendary stuff two generations later. This is stuff that comes very very early. In fact Colin Hammer. The Great Roman historian makes a great case. We repeat in. I don't have enough faith to be an atheist that all most if not all the new testament documents are written prior to seventy ad. Actually his case was that acts was written by sixty two. And if axes written by sixty two lucas before then and then all the dominos fall after that Dr Guy Sir and I said it seems to us that most if not all the new testament documents are written prior to seventy ad. This is all in the lifetime of the eye witnesses while they're still around so you got genesis one one being true. This is a theistic universe. You've got the fact that love exists. We all know love exists. The source of love is GonNa come. Rescue US got Old Testament prophecy. We've got early testimony. We also have eye witness details. That only an eyewitness would know this is throughout the new testament documents. But here's just a few examples. The second half of the book of acts has eighty four eye witness details in it or I. Witness historically probable details Colin Hammer. The mench guy just mentioned the Roman historian wrote a book on this called axe in the setting of hellenistic history in which he went through the entire book of acts and with a fine tooth comb and picked out all the places that that Luke talks about and all the things he says and he finds an eighty four occasions. They're all telling what appear to be something. That only an eyewitness would know or someone who knew an eyewitness Paul I mean. Luke is an eyewitness to some of this stuff or he knows eye witnesses and he's meticulous historian in the gospel of John as Dr Craig. Blomberg has found their fifty nine historical probably historical details. I witnessed details or storage probable eyewitness details these things are something only an eyewitness would know at the crucifixion. By the way you know it talks about having after the spirit goes inside blood and water comes out and John who reports. This probably thought it will but actually. That's what you would see in a crucified victim in the the SAC. Around the heart. The pericardium there would be a watery fluid and if you were to puncture that with a spear blood and what appeared to be water would come out now. How would he know this if he wasn't a medical doctor? How would he know this unless he saw or somebody saw it and told them about the seems to be an eyewitness detail you should? Maybe somebody else get increased. Well still even if he did. I mean it's an eyewitness detail you could say what you could say you could say almost anything but a to explain this except the most reasonable thing was was that he saw. That's the most reasonable thing. Maybe somebody else somebody else get crucified. Yep there's too many ad hoc ways of explaining something when in fact if you look at all the details it seems like these. People were eyewitnesses in many other respects as well. This is one out of fifty nine just in the gospel of John. There's eighty four in in acts. There are several other eyewitness details scattered throughout the New Testament that have been proven to be eyewitness details or at least to a great a great degree of probability. That's the case. These people are really eyewitnesses. They're not making this up. And why would they make it up there? Jews we'll get to that a little bit later listening do. I don't have enough faith to be an atheist with Frank Turk did Jesus of Nazareth really rise from the dead. That's what Easter weekends. All about. Is it really true? I don't have enough faith to believe it wasn't more on that after the break. Don't go anywhere you find value in the content. That is podcast. 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If you're just sitting around you got nothing else to do even if you got something else to do. Hopefully they're edifying and helpful. Check out those videos check out the blog checkout what we have there in the website on the online courses and join us every day. If you can for the hope one show. You're listening to. I don't have to be atheist with frank couric on this Easter weekend. This resurrection weekend before we left. We were talking about some eyewitness details and there are so many that we list and I don't have enough faith to be an atheist. You can get that to go further. Let's talk also about embarrassing stories. This is another reason to think that the new testament writers aren't making this up. They're not making the resurrection up. Because there's embarrassing stories. That actually make them look bad. For Example Peter. Their leader is called Satan by. Jesus do you think they made this up? Do you think mark wrote that down said Peter at one point. Ap Make this a real interesting story. I'm GonNa have to Lord called you. Satan have him call you Satan? I wouldn't tell when Peter Bump era. I'm not allowing them to allow him to do that. That's embarrassing that makes me look bad and also their leader. Peter Says Lord. I'll never deny you. What does he wind up doing? He winds then he winds up to nine and three times. That's embarrassing and then at the crucifixion. What happens all of the disciples maybe with the exception of one they all run away? This is like Monty Python movie. They all run away. And who are the brave ones ladies? Yes the women. The women are the ones who wrote the New Testament. Down men now. What man is going to make up that he was hiding for fear of the Jews? Why the women went down discovered the empty tomb. Would any man you know. Make that up no way me if I was there and I wanted to make it up. I'd make myself look good. Write something down like we marched right down to the two that Roman Tomb and we saw those Roman guards and we overpowered them. Peter said get out. John said we'll be back. And then on Sunday morning we march right down to the tomb and we saw Jesus who congratulated us on our great faith and then we went and comforted the trembling women. I would never say I was Mr Sissy Pants while the women went down discovered the empty tomb. But that's what the New Testament documents essentially say. This is embarrassing. They're not making it up and I can't believe this next versus in the New Testament but it is before I get there the other thing about this. It's embarrassing to have the men not be the first witnesses and have the women be the first witnesses. That's embarrassing right. There that the men run away in the women are the first witnesses but for a completely non related reason. It's also embarrassing to say. The women were the witnesses at all. Why because a women's testimony was not considered on par with that of a man? So if you're making the New Testament story the men be the first witnesses yet all four gospels say the women were the first witnesses. Why because they really were. They had no motive to make this up. They had every motive to say it wasn't true. Not every motive to say it was. I actually had a woman come up to me once and she said Frank I know why the I know why Jesus appeared to the women I I said why and she said because he wanted to get the story out. I said that is an excellent point. I hadn't thought of this. I mean think about it. When you're man comes home from work to see say much. There could have been in nuclear explosion down at the plant. He's not going to tell you you'll see it on the news before you hear it from him. You'll be watching the news. Go and hey what happened at all. Yeah forgot to tell you. The nuke blew up. I've been hot for three days. What's for dinner you know he's not going to tell you also. I can't this verse I. It's hard for me to believe this is in the New Testament but it is you know the Great Commission Force you. You're listening to the American family radio network. You know the commission this is this. Is Matthew Chapter Twenty Eight. This is the climax of the Gospel of Matthew. He's about to give his disciples the great commission he standing there saying go therefore make disciples of all nations by the way notice. He doesn't say make believers he says make disciples. There's a difference. Anyway he says make disciples of all nations right there in verse. Seventeen about his disciples. Who Were there? It says some believed but some doubted what he's standing right in front of him the resurrected Jesus standing in front of the disciples and the text actually says some believe but some doubted. You think they're making this up. This is not a flattering situation. If you're making this up you'd say nobody ever doubted. We always believed fact. We knew before you before you were killed. You'd maybe resurrect now. They don't see any of that. They're scared scattered. Skeptical doubtful disciples. It's not a made up story. There's embarrassing stories about Jesus in there is own brothers. Don't believe in him that's embarrassing. He's called a drunkard. He's called Demon possessed. He has his feet wide. Put the hair of a prostitute which has been seen as a sexual advance and it factors even to prostitutes in his bloodline. The Jewish messiahs bloodline has to prostitutes in it. Rahab Rahab in Taymor. Do you think they made this up? You Think Matthew and Luke got together and said you know when they're putting together to genealogies and said you know what I really think we need to spice up. The messiahs bloodline a little bit. Let's put a couple of prostitutes. No they're just telling the truth as embarrassing as it is. There's many more embarrassing details we have in the book. I don't have enough faith to be atheist. You can get those if you want but this is just telling me. This is not an invented story. There's also embedded confirmation what's embedded confirmation in bed. Confirmation is what is sometimes called undesired. Coincidences undesired coincidences. We talked at length about this of probably a couple years ago. And we had Lydia mcgrew on. Who did a book called Hidden in Plain View? You can go back and listen to that podcast hidden in plain view. I talk about a little bit in the book stealing from God. But if you just google undesired coincidences. You'll find them. What are designed coincidence. Let me just give you one example. There are many examples but one gospel says that there was a Jesus mocking on Good Friday. They were hitting him and spitting on him insane. Tell me prophesy to Christ to hit you and you're going really why would that be a prophecy? The Guy Standing. Right in front of him. Then you go to another Gospel the gospel of Luke and he's he describes the same situation except it says Luke says they blindfolded him now when reading the First Gospel. You're gone I don't quite get it. Why would be prophecy to say the guy who standard in front of you right in front of you hit you but now I understand when I read Luke's Gospel because Jesus was blindfolded in other words both writers are independently witnessing the same historical event but one is giving a little bit more detail that clears up ambiguity in the other Gospel? In other words they couldn't have invented this. It's not like one guy left a little detail out to the other guy could fill it in. Hey let's let's Conspire do that. No there this is what happens with. I witnessed details. You have people giving some details and other people giving other details but they all agree. On the central fact what's essential fact? Jesus was crucified. I first of all he was mocked and then he was cruise whipped and crucified. They all agree on that they. Just tell the story with different details. And when you compare the details you go This one guy tells me a little bit more in clears up. The ambiguities had with the other account. They couldn't do that if this was contrived. And there's several of these. I just gave you one in the interest of time. Another reason to believe in the resurrection is. There's an empty tomb an empty Jewish tune in fact and the Jews could have stopped Christianity in its tracks. If they could just take the body out of the Tomb Jesus's body out of the tomb and paraded around the city. The Romans could have done the same thing. None of them. None of them did that. Why because Jesus was still using his body. His body wasn't in the tomb was empty yet. They could've stopped all the all the trouble. They were trying to stop by simply producing Jesus body in a known tomb in a known place and they couldn't do it in fact. Here's another piece of evidence they're telling the truth. The Jews actually admitted the tomb was empty. That's why they came up with the story about the disciples stole the body. You say well. How do you know that? Well It's in the Gospel Matthew. How do you know Matthews telling the truth? Isn't that circular reasoning no? It's not just matthew who sang in this. There's Jewish writers at the time. Saying this which is admitting the tomb is empty and by the way if Matthew who is writing to the Jews. Put a blatant lie in his text to say. Here's the Jews explanation of the Empty Tomb. And it wasn't really their explanation. He would discredited his entire message. That must have been the Jews explanation for the tomb being empty that the disciples came and stole the body while the guards were asleep but that very admission presupposes the tomb is empty. It's an admission that the tomb is empty. And by the way when you have enemy testimony that helps your case. That's very powerful. Why well look friendly testimony? It's the guy might lie right to look for is biased toward you. You know you. Your mother says you're brave. Everyone goes okay. That's mom we get it but if you're arch-enemy says you're brave guess what you're brave. That's your enemy as a firm something that helps your case. Here's a situation where the Jews are affirming. Something that helps to Christian case. The tomb was empty. Christianity could have been stopped stopped. The tomb was empty. And it wasn't what other evidence do. We have Paul was converted. James was converted in fact Gary Habermas so I mentioned earlier has a minimal. Facts approach to the resurrection. He says virtually more than ninety percent of scholars that that he has survey and this is these are scholars who are New Testament scholars trained in the field. There are anywhere from atheist to Christian. Yes there are new tests. Aren't Christians there atheist? Agnostics Bart Ehrman others nine more than ninety based on the evidence more than ninety percent of scholars will say yes. Paul was converted. He was an opponent of Christianity was converted. They will also say James. Although it's lesser attested about James. He's not as central a figure as Paul but they agree. James was converted really the half brother of Jesus who didn't think who didn't think his own brother was God when he walked the earth and then suddenly he's converted and thirty years later. Dies is a martyr for his own brother in the city in which Jesus allegedly rose from the dead and yeah you know tells us this Josephus. The Jewish historian that James was killed in sixty to sixty two AD in Jerusalem by the San Hadrian who throw them off the Temple Mount and then stoned him to death. It's not even a Christian source telling us this it's it's Josephus the Jewish historian. Why is James? Doing this because Jesus appeared for screens fifteen cents. There's more evidence that Jesus rose from the dead and we'll get into it after the break you're listening to have enough faith to be an atheist with frank couric on the American family radio network. Our website cross examined dot org and by the way. Thanks for putting positive reviews up on the I tunes page for. I don't have enough faith to be an atheist. Keep it up back in two minutes. Ladies and gentlemen I don't have enough faith to be. An atheist is a listener supported. Radio program and PODCAST. If you like what we do would you please consider going to cross examined dot org and giving us a tax deductible donation one hundred percent of your donations will go to ministry zero percent to build? Thanks so much. What evidence do we have that Jesus of Nazareth the most influential human being ever walked the earth? Actually rose from the dead been through some evidence. Here let me just mention more evidence before I want to read to you. Something about the passion which is very moving to me. In addition to James being converted priests were converted. Look at six seven. Luke actually says that many priests were converted to the faith lucrative. Lost all credibility with the Pharisees. If he had suggested they had been converted and they weren't. Why is that in there because it really happened? There's five at five hundred. Eyewitnesses cited in First Corinthians fifteen. Who are these eyewitnesses? Do we have anything from them. No but that's not the point. The point is Paul would have lost all credibility with the church at Corinth if he had said all these people had seen the risen. Jesus and many of whom are still alive. If it didn't happen the Jews proclaimed it and died for it why are Jews inventing a resurrected? Jesus they're not these people were believers in y'all way they were God's chosen people. Why are they inventing resurrected Christ? They're not they had every reason to say it wasn't true. Not every reason to say it did. They're also extra biblical writers which have time to get into. And there's even the growth of the church from Jerusalem. How do you explain that? If Jesus is tomb was occupied Jews would never write about this unless it really happened. Remember that New Testament. Writers did not create the resurrection. The resurrection created the New Testament Writers. There wouldn't even be a new testament written by Jews in the first century unless Jesus rose from the dead. I had friends. I hope I have enough time to do this. But Every Passion Week Resurrection. Week I read an account of the crucifixion. Because it reminds me of what Jesus did for me and you try and get through as much as this is I can. It's in the book. I don't have enough faith to be an atheist. Page three eighty one. I want to warn you right now. Young people very young people young people in here. This is going to be pretty brutal. It's on page three eighty one in. It's an account of the crucifixion of Jesus. The whip the Roman soldiers us on Jesus as small iron balls and sharp pieces of sheep bones tied to it. Jesus is stripped of his clothing and his hands are tied to an upright post his back buttocks and legs whipped either by one soldier or by two alternating positions. The soldiers taunt their victims as they repeatedly strike. Jesus is back with the full force of the iron balls. They cause deep contusions and the sheep bones cut into the skin and the tissues as the whipping continues. The lacerations tear into the underlying skeletal muscles and produce quivering ribbons of bleeding flesh. Pain and blood loss set the stage for circulatory shock. When it is determined by the century in charge that Jesus is near death? The beating is finally. Stop the half fainting. Jesus is then untied and allowed to slump to the stone pavement wet with his own blood. The Roman soldier see a great joke in this provincial Jew claiming to be a king. They throw a robe across his soldiers and places stick in his hand for a sector. They still need a crowd to make their travesty. Complete a small bundle of flexible branches covered with long thorns or played into the shape of a crown and this is pressed into a scout scalp again. There is copious bleeding the scalp being one of the most vascular areas of the body after mocking him and striking him across the face. The soldiers take the stick from his hand and strike them across ahead driving the thorns deeper into a scalp. Finally when they tired. They're sadistic sport. The robe is torn from his back. The robot already become adherent to the clots of blood and serum in the wombs and the removal just as the careless removal of a surgical bandaged causes excruciating pain. Almost you're being whipped again. The wounds again begin to bleed indifference to Jewish customs. The Romans return his garments. The heavy horizontal beam of the Cross is tied across his shoulders and the procession of the condemn Christ to thieves and the Execution Party walked along the Via Dolorosa in spite of his efforts to walk. Erect the weight of the heavy wooden beamed together with the shock. Produced by copious blood. Loss is too much. He stumbles and falls the rough wooded the beam gouges into the lacerated skin and muscles of his shoulders he tries to rise but human muscles have been pushed beyond their endurance. This interior anxious to gone with the crucifixion selects a stalwart North African. Look Simon of Syrian to carry the Cross. Jesus follows still bleeding sweating the cold. Clammy sweat of shock. The six hundred fifty yard journey from the fortress Antonia to go got is finally completed. Jesus is again stripped of his clothes except for the loincloth which allowed the Jews. The crucifixion begins. Jesus was offered wine mixed with. Myrrh plane painkilling mixture. He refuses to drink Simon's order. Place the crossbeam on the ground and Jesus is quickly thrown backward with the shoulders against the wood. The legionnaire feels for the depression at the front of the wrist. He drives a heavy square wrought iron nail through the wrist and deep into the wood quickly. He moves to the other side and repeats. The action being careful not to pull the arms too tight but to allow some flexibility and movement. The beam is then lifted in the title reading. Jesus of Nazareth King of the Jews is nailed into place. The victim Jesus is now crucified as he slowly sags down with more weight on the nails in the rhys excruciating fiery pain shoots along the fingers and up the arms to explode in the brain. The nails in the risks are putting pressure on the nerves as he pushes himself toward upward to avoid the stretching torment he places the full weight on the nail through his feet again. There's the Syrian agony of the nail tearing through the nerves between the metatarsal bones at the fleet of the feet at this point. Another phenomenon occurs as the arms fatigue. Great waves of cramps sweep over the muscles nodding them in deep relentless throbbing pain with these cramps. Come the inability to push himself upward hanging by his arms to pictorial muscles are paralyzed and the intercostal muscles are unable to act. Air can be drawn into the lungs but it cannot be exhaled. Jesus fights to raise himself in order to get even one short breath finally carbon monoxide builds up in the lungs and in the bloodstream and the cramps partially subside spasmodically. He's able to push himself upward exhale and to bring in life giving oxygen. It is undoubtedly during these periods that he utters the seven short sentences that are recorded. Now begin hours of this limitless pain cycles of cramping and twisting partial fixation. Searing pain as tissue is torn from his lacerated. Back as he moves up and down against the rough timber then another agony begins a deep crushing pain in the chest as the pericardium slowly fills with serum and begins to compress the heart. It is now almost over. The loss of tissue fluids has reached a critical level. Compressed heart is struggling to pump heavy thick sluggish blood into the tissues tortured. Lungs are making a frantic effort to gas in small gulps of air. The markedly dehydrated tissues. Send their flood of Stimuli to the brain his mission of Atonement as been completed. Finally he can allow his body to die with one last surge of strength. He once again presses his torn feet against the nail straightens his legs takes a deeper breath and others his seventh and last cry father into your hands. I commit my spirit. Jesus went through all that ladies and gentlemen so that you and me could be reconciled to him so we could be saved from our sins by affirming father into your hands. I commit my life. One solitary life is the most influential life in human history. How so because three days after this on the third day he walked out of that tomb after being tortured in that way the risen Lord of life. And that's why human being ever walked the earth because he rose from the dead to prove he was also God and he said I did not come to be served but to serve and to give my life as a ransom for many. That was the ransom. The question is you accepted the ransom. Because you and I have sinned. We've fallen short. We need to be punished for what we've done because God is infinitely just and if there's any justice at all God is the standard of I haven't been just you haven't been just so why wouldn't you accept the fact that Jesus was just and took your punishment on himself so you could be forgiven for what you've done and you could be given his. Righteousness why would you accept that? This is the greatest news. Ever spoken of. This is the greatest news ever. It's the good news. Why wouldn't you accept it? Wouldn't you repent of what you've done and accepted? Look you don't achieve your salvation in Christianity you your salvation? You don't achieve your identity and Christianity you receive your identity because there was an eyewitness there by the name of John who said that God has given you the right to become his child by believing Jesus says. Have you ever done that? You're repented of your sins and believe trusted in. Jesus that's the message of this weekend. 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Friend of the Pod Sean Wheelock joins us to talk MMA commentary, COVID-19 and Lenne Hardt

Trap House Variety Hour

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Friend of the Pod Sean Wheelock joins us to talk MMA commentary, COVID-19 and Lenne Hardt

"Welcome back to a very special edition of the trap. Variety hour anime legend showing Wheelock House. Man Who's called over four thousand fights and so much more we talk about Ortiz Lenny. Heart butterbean jaundice cousins his relationship with the CO founder of DRC Art Gabi and art wrote. The book is legal. The inside story of the first yup see the man who created. We have on-site of the week. Ninja origin story is considered here only chaplains variety. Our we're back. Sorry to hear. So extreme or on the edge of an impending shutdown the lockdown with your with promote savage. And Mr Sean Wheelock. Thank me here yes yes. It's great to be out of the house. Yeah had eight shows in nine weeks and now I have no shows in Infinity Week. So the house. It's good to be out of the House. Now Sean. It's it's IT'S. It's this this puts a lot of pressure on us because It's difficult for us to do introductions. And and certainly you're you being broadcast and professional in certainly well-versed in these kinds of things. I'm almost embarrassed to even trying to introduce you intimidated. I'm intimidated a little bit. And so so plus. Shawn's hello buff. Do you remember seeing this guy with his shirt off. I just had a birthday forty six years old. Got THEM IT. Looks like Atlas Ho that's very targeted for a couple of like Shawna's yes it's just making points got weights plan for Coral I was hitting the weights and then so my birthday was Wednesday. I was telling you guys off air last Wednesday the day after Saint Patrick's Day and I got up and I said that my wife is long is the gym stays open in quick trip. Stays open jinxed it because yeah I'm physically addicted to diet mountain dew and that's I like to mix and I love going to the gym and I look at my email. The Gym is closed. Nagwa quick trip yeah. We're probably going to be closing on Monday trips closing. I've gotten mixed messages from quick trip. Some tell me they're shutting down and others tell me that they're usually pretty consistent on. Jim Closed so and then my other jam your gym and that's against your will will be closing so my my workout Gym Weightlifting Gym American top team. Welcome at it's it's happening so gains where you're gonna find your gains social. Push when when I travel I travel with With a sit up matt which is probably a yoga map. I like saying sit up. Matt sounds a little cooler and I do an insane amount of push ups and sit up so I'll keep that going. My wife has Peleton. I bought a record day last year. One of those guys a monthly subscription for that I heard or yes it is I. I just asked my wife. I don't know but I might be getting on that on that thing. I heard it. I heard through the cool. My wife loves it but again that's just for Cardio and lift weights. But so I'M GONNA WE'RE GONNA have to sneak into ATT will go for as long as there's not a group of rules but I think you can sneak in there by yourself. I think I don't know what who knows. An unprecedented foreign territory. I was just randomly reading when I was I went to was my trip to Russia not that long ago and I love reading chance I get to read is on planes and I was reading an Article Amend Leslie Fascinated on world war. Two and I was reading an article that I found online about life on the home front during World War Two and knowledgeable as I think I am for Layperson World War Two. I had no idea fit. There was no home construction during world. War Two in the United States. Now new homes no no zero new homes constructed. You're looking nineteen forty to nineteen forty-five tires could only be manufactured for military. Use Our governmental use. So if your tires were bald. You're out of luck and Americans were and there was a black market. Obviously there Arash two three gallons of gas a week. Nobody's bitching about staying home. And I thought you know not not to compare this with World War Two. But that's the closest precedent that I can find. You know we're we're old enough to have gone through September eleventh two thousand one and that was a weird disruption but I had a Gig in Trinidad. I was on a plane ten days later. This is different. This is almost again not to compare it to World War. Two not apples to apples but in terms of shutting things down maybe certain restrictions of movements closing down businesses. The last time we've seen that in this country was nineteen forty two. Yeah I don't think I mean I'm only thirty eight so but I haven't seen anything like this in my lifetime and We'll see we'll see the thing is is like if we are overreacting by doing all this shit and like grinding the comment to a halt and all his all this. There's no way to tell whether you're overreact or not. You know on the back end. There's no way to be like. Oh we could. We could have done less. Let people go to sporting events ball but if you're under react we'll definitely be able to tell you know so like conspiracy theorists on that end are always going to be proven right at. Should we make it out like with with you know not too much no skin off of our backs at the end of this? Yeah right now. It's it's it's really two competing. It's two competing schools of thought when it comes to like how to fight a virus and then the first way is the way that we adopted and we may have adopted too late anyway is the flat and the curb concept curve concept right and but the other ways. I think that we were kind of heading this way that we just we go for the herd immunity concept. And that's where we just let this thing run. Its course right. Which is you know infections. And we do our best to to manage it and we. We don't step aside from it. We don't shut everything down and it's very possible that you you actually can't you can't flat in the curve on this thing because I think that's what China tried to do and I remember like in China of course has the ability to really flex nuts on their populous. Right that they can they can make dictates and keep people shut in. Probably better than we can you know. They have the power of authority in the authoritarian state that they live in right but what I saw on my twitter feed like a month ago which is really kind of bugging me out. Was like dead people laying in the streets in China. And of course like we as `social it's like well is this honest is this real is like a picture of something that happened a year ago and people were just putting it on your distress me out. You know what I'm saying. So it's like I'm not sure. If that's if if if if trying to flatten the curve. GonNa Work Anyway because the one thing. I think everyone's finally understood about corona buyers. It's easy to catch. You can catch this thing walking around fucking walking down the hall right. I mean flattening. The curve in herd immunity are part of the same kind of thing because by flattening her. You're not necessarily You're not necessarily cutting down numbers that are going to get it. You're just spreading those numbers out over greater amount of time right so it's really kind of the same thing in like by flat. The curve all we do is give our medical establishment of chance to keep up with infection. Sure so I think that's the main thing that we're trying to do in like a couple of stats that I heard a couple days ago. Really illustrated that for We're talking about hospital beds. Per Thousand People America has two point. Eight hospital beds per thousand people in Italy has more more per capita. So if we think about what that can mean in the next couple of weeks you know when we're shutting. Think think hopefully we're able to to kind of flat more than Italy is done you know. So we'll we'll see though I know I don't. I don't have a particular view on this. I mean I'd I'd I definitely don't hold the high ground in terms of absolute knowledge on this thing I. It's so clear when I opened my mouth but the I just the only fear I have about flattening. The curve is that I'm looking at some of these timelines and it's like a fucking year long months or eighteen months long. Wait a minute. We can't we can't do this for eighteen months. Okay we're going to be the I mean people it's going to be fifty percent unemployment period. Yeah that's what it's kind of looking at. That's what we're looking at here Sean. One of the things you were talking about all the people that were still going to be gainfully employed through this thing you know at this shutdown and or or even gainfully employed or generating revenue generating Bremer's right and it's like really. I think the fair view of that is like fifty percent. But that's even less that's a higher unemployment percentage than what we had in the Great Depression. Where motherfuckers were selling their model. T's for ten cents or fucking Apple. You know what I'm saying. You know so anyway. I just my only fear about flattening the curve and I. I don't come at this from a political perspective. There's not a writer left bent to what I'm saying here I just. I'm concerned that I know we can't sustain this. No matter how many thousand dollar checks anybody gets for a month you know ever each month. I don't know if we can sustain this for a year a year and a half. So that's my only fear on this thing. I'll a lot will be revealed in the next couple weeks. I think what you're going to see is when people come out the other side because is human beings were conditioned to fear above all else the unknown. That's that's humankind that cuts across all cultures. And Right. Now it's the fear of the known. I that's that's gripping not just in the United States but worldwide when you start to see people who've come out the other side who said these are my symptoms if people can say you know what it was no big deal or it was like. I had the flu little worse or a little better than I think. Things will start to normalize but right now we're not really seeing and I'm hopeful because we have you know at least reports from Asia from China specifically possibly Korea. Maybe Japan is that they've come through the worst of it letting people out and so and China's starting to turn the wheel again in terms of manufacturing which is important because we you know a lot of our supply chain comes out of that piece so that's a positive piece so that means of course that we've got to go through a big scary peak here in the next two or three weeks so hopefully we get a better sense of really what we're dealing with here. In America in the next couple of weeks I will be revealed. Obe- Real. It's not very promising. So we go on official like Shelter in place like down Tuesday so ramone I understand you. You're having a hard time procuring. Toilet Paper Yeah. Not about just getting in the shower now. Okay thank you. I mean I don't WanNa put you put your visit out on the street but this guy has eighty rolls of toilet paper in the modern day. Go to packages okay. We have two packages of twelve plus the Flushable wipes that I told you about right. Jason was interesting. Get a what. Is it call Oscar colonoscopy right hammer my ass and so I guess I guess what you're stockpiling dude wipes too. Because I didn't want to like RUB my asshole. Rawal with the dry tour vapor by because you know. Do you drink this shit. Then you just shitting for the next four hours and then you wake up at three. Am and you're shitting for another until the appointment. Basically so I was in bathroom for most of the night so those There were lifesaver changing so good that I that after even though. I don't have a colonoscopy scheduled right now still am. They changed my life. I noticed when I saw you to refresh your shit. Nice smells perfumed. Nice it just wipes you know. It's like a day imitation all right. So let's talk about something fun. All Right Sean. E you've done you've done play by play announcing for Bella Tor for 'em one And for GimMe some other promotions. You've worked for and currently work for so somebody asked me randomly. How many of commentated for and I had no idea. I don't know maybe twenty sites. Do you think you've commentator maybe four thousand but fights maybe thousands maybe five thousand. I'm not someone who's a milestone guy like. Oh this is my shower. This is my thousand fight so I don't really keep track of it but I've tried to kind of do the math on it but someone did ask me. How many promotions and I had no idea in two weeks ago my last trip out of the country I was in Ireland was in Dublin for lion fight and just flying home because you have a little bit of free time. I'm going to try to count up and I kept forgetting promotions. Took me about two days like I just completely randomly forgot that I did a fell show so you at the Pierre within the next one I did the first PF L. It was the mini show. After the one I saw you in the one in Florida. And that's when they brought me out because I was close to signing. It didn't work out that way but I did the hundred right so you with that wind like hurry up. No stopping that. Maybe coordinate show. I ever saw crazy but then I quote unquote real fell. That was the world series of fighting when you were. There was a mini show. Four fights at the Washington Hilton. I did with Kayla Harrison and boss route and I'd forgotten on the PF l. But accounted up and I'm twenty eight promotions in combat sport. Most people couldn't even name twenty-eight promotions he and I and right now I couldn't list there were things that I've forgotten a lot of those. Were like complete one offs like I did a a world cage fighting federation which was at the old extreme cold tour in independence. The John Cornyn was his promotion to one at first big show affliction back. That's right exactly and when was this in July two thousand eight the the pond in Anaheim flick too I think or commentated both and then affliction three canceled week of in? It's one of two shows in my career where I got paid something. Even though the show cancelled friction three was going to be Josh Barnett. Were you've signed for that card? It was Josh. Burnett favor million ankle was the main thing was signed for the one that I was supposed to be on. Got Member got pushed back rights. I February something is supposed to be in November or something and then. I don't think I was scheduled for three but I think a couple of people that I was training with were because you find J. Heroin on the one and I knew who you were. But that's when I first met you on that card but as commentator both afflictions the first one I did For the world feet world feet is basically it goes to every country but the US in Canada and then click thousand. I believe that was July eight. I believe it was July. Two Thousand Eight and then I think affliction to was January two thousand nine and then I don't remember maybe the summer for affliction three which cancelled week of and that was Josh Barnett pop type for something in or or he recently just did again cancelled the main events and I think the affliction guys were looking for a way out and when they're made van cancel. They pulled the plug on the show is to their credit. They send me fifty percent pay which I was shocked. Appreciative of but affliction was a fun show. That was what I was doing one That was that was my biggest show today we did affliction one we did affliction affliction two. They merged the world feed in the main feed. And that was people still ask me about that. That was when I commentated with Jimmy Smith. Who Great on that show and Tito Ortiz. And Tito though that's their view Youtube Tito Ortiz affliction there. There are some pretty brutal videos on when people have opinions of Tito Ortiz. I know him. He's been nothing but great time but he was thrown into the proverbial deep end of the pool on that affliction was trying to sign him away from the UFC. Someone had the bright idea. Hey let's put him on the broadcast but let's not tell them how to actually be a broadcast. Give them a place to enter and at the time he was the Jenner Jameson. She was heavily pregnant. She was sitting in the front row right behind us. You can imagine the people coming up to our winning touch her stomach. Which is just despicable lines of guys. This is awful. I've never heard of that and I've never heard of that. Like people wanted to touch Porn Stars. Pregnant tarmac tunnels. That's their line of people. Then called pond in Anaheim I. I don't know something soon. Back Natural reaction would be any anybody's reactions like my wife Major fucking hassle. And he'd never he'd never compensated and then they have the bright idea. Hey let's have him do the in ring not a cage because it was during the in ring post fight interviews and if you've never won we call television and IFP which is the earpiece talk. Talking Shit is so what? He's got a producer in his ear. Just like telling him what you're getting. Fbi anytime you're you're doing live sports whether it's MMA or whatever their county you two packages they're counting you to breaks through this and you just get used to. It really separates the men from the boys is a commentator. Can you talk through while someone is talking to you? And it's called a key. So sometimes producers will leave their key opened and they'll start talking to other people and you just have to fight through it but you're taking us if you've never done it before it's very very level there you got to figure it out. I mean my first time on TV. I was twenty was doing. I was doing minor league hockey on on cable access it was low stakes wasn't doing worldwide pay per view for affliction but Tito really chewed up on that broadcast. But here's a pretty eventful show. That was I still look back. Fondly on those two afflictions had that from one I went to a tour the following year. I did pride. I was the last guy in pride. Oh Yeah I saw that wide lineup. That was great. What Card was that pride? I came in at the very end. Pride thirty four and I worked with Frank Trigg but the gone through a number of commentators moral aloe wound up. Good Davis Greg Morris. Cool more was great and pride and moral left. I never really knew why he left moral left boss route and laugh buses. Good friend of mine not really sure why boss left like Boston Boston. Okay they they brought in Damon Perry. They brought in lawn McCarron. They were looking for a line. I wound up getting hired. And I'm like this is the coolest thing ever I've I'm now and this is two thousand six when I got hired so in my mind Prided overtaken the UFC. And I I literally was stunned them. Like wow I'm actually. In Japan at Saitama Super Arena commentating fights and is it in the company. Oh Yeah Lenny heart heart doing. And so. Where's Lenny when she does that now when she she introduced disease fighters. And if you if you guys haven't heard of who lenny hardest just google her and she'll have some great interest. The best interest of all time. Lenny does a lot of things. Now prerecorded smaller. Promotions will use her pre recorded. But in pride Lenhart was right there. Lenny hearts actually handsome really and she's lived in Japan. People think that she's Japanese easel asking and she's lived in Japan for a long time. I remember watching her fan. Her like after she announced was fighting. I was staying. I'm standing in the ring for jury enduring dream and inviting soccer huge fight fucking Japan. You know he's a legend right and he's walking out and he's got this huge like apparatus that he's walking out with somebody's holding up behind them. It's like A. It's like scaffolding that has fucking flags showing and he's walking out he's got these bad ass fucking night he's on and She's announcing his name. And then I looked down after. She Announces Emma. She's got this fan fan and herself. She's holy she is a really nice woman and a anybody of a certain age. Who's watched pride knows lenny? Harn she'll still show up. I commentated with Meacham Tate on you fight. Pass October of twenty eighteen. It was the first quintet new. Us and they flew in Lenny because it's Japanese promotions and I've I've worked shows in Europe. Where Lenny prerecorded everything. Okay and sent it. But when Lemme hurt his there again. I think a lot of people under thirty or like what is. Yeah and my buddy. Keep Veltri. Who CONES Roy Jones? Junior boxing commented for with Roy. He came he had never been to a grappling show. He lives in Vegas afterwards. I'm like dude. Would you think he goes? Yeah Man I really liked to grappling was cool but what was up with that woman introducing like. Where did they find? You have to screen is she is she is animated voices or she just locked into the microphone like when she's doing the announcement she waving her arms around like a maniac or is she just your title the microphone. He's not an overly flamboyant person. She's very surprised. I don't know her socially shows what there so I know her professionally but very polite very well-spoken doesn't come across as manic. Did you meet her? Jason annulment doesn't come across his manic or high energy or things that you might attribute to that style. She just found the lane and she nails. It's amazing is really good. It's really gift. It's a gifted person there for sure. She's the best so on that. Just real quick is so. This was a pride card. Cartwright Pride at the end and I'm thinking wow this is spectacular and what I knew the show was the guy who hired me Jerry Mellon Who is running the? Us Office for private. Actually were so big they opened in. La Office Jerry. Moved FROM DETROIT. Had An apartment in La. Was running that Jerry like me what I learned with Japanese. They were primarily concerned with their with their in nation their Japanese broadcast so is an American. They wanted they want you to look the part and be very polite very professional. Well I'm plight. Everybody and I pride myself on being a professional so that was almost like a Supreme Court justice job like I'd have really screwed up the lost it and then the UFC Zubaydah to be precise purchase. Pride and we were told and Lash. Oh Yeah we're still going to run it. We had a date after what turned out to be the final pride April. Two thousand seven. We had a show six weeks later and the crews like. Oh we'll see you in six weeks just new owner it'll still be the UFC still offices and that was the end of pride too bad. That was an interesting intellectual promotion. Can't believe that killed that. It was weird that that I'd already been. I mean I've been in radio since I was eighteen and TV. Since I was twenty a lot of terrible things and low paying and I was really really bad for a long time. I done some Titan where you find Joe Kelley in the world cage fighting federation some local shows but that was my first big show and I thought it was the biggest show in the world at the time I thought so for sure and it hasn't been the same Japan since it has that one out and to have that show and the thing is great again. I knew the score and I knew that this is a job. Basically you know you're guaranteed for Just just act apart and be a pro and things that I love to do. I'm somebody keeps my head down the road anyway and just I do my work and then I fly out and I go home and I'm ready for the next show and then that show disappeared. But then that led me directly to M ONE JERRY. Millen brought me to 'em one and that's where I I was partnered with Jimmy Smith. Jimmy and I wound up commentating together for seven and a half years and led directly to tower the Just can I. Can you just indulge my nostalgia for second so there was a was a butterbean matchup on that card right? Yeah we didn't. That's right he. He actually won by key. Lock now who've taught Butterbean by La one by Keila. There was a weird thing on that. Show that on pride thirty four. You have great memory that you knew that so there is something a deal was struck and we were live on that show that we could not commentate the I. I think it was three may have been four fights on the card so frank trigg and I was awful. Where backstage and we're like having to preview the cord and talk about this in the background you can hear people cheering in the entrance talents just on Japanese TV. I don't know if I did. I forgot but why contractually we couldn't do those opening fights so Butterbean Nash wasn't he was on the card but it wasn't part of the English language broadcasts but we were actually live on that a lot of the early prides and I found out I found pride through a lot of us did by either on net flakes or blockbuster video getting those. Dvd's was until the later prides. Maybe even late as two thousand six that they were live. They just weren't live in. Us and then Fox would do the countdown show. The Jay Glazer hosted okay. I never saw that. They were on the Fox sports. Net's weirdly enough. I did a a soccer show work for Fox. International news the exact same studio set and Jay Glazer and they would come in and it was. Just it's what's called hosts segments. They would say. Let's take you back this I Thomas Hooper arena for Butterbean actual Zeno that type of thing senior. Somebody to go five. Zero is email but pride was amazing. It was amazing in you. Know there's always an alternate history to the world and the alternate history. If Zoo hadn't of purchase there was talk to Vince. Mcmahon was going purchase bride but if zoo hadn't purchased ride or zoo hadn't have closed them down with the world would look like now in twenty twenty amazing just on butter being alone. Alcoa hedges could kept that they had the apparatus. There GonNA kept it going. And that's what we were all told I might be thinking. That's what but fans and fighters I'm not sure we'll hear that thousand seven I was GonNa say I don't know if there's anything to be proud of but I might be the last person who has ever hired by pride Jay Tan. I'm still friends with who was hired as a marketing guy in the LA office. I think I was hired after Jay so I may be. There may have been people in the Japanese office but I know is the last Westerner to be hired by pride great whatever but it was it strange though that we were we were told business as usual. It probably has more to do. I guess with like doing business in Japan. Yeah I I didn't really know but if you know if you look back it where the UFC was as a as a Wester was culturally. It was obviously different and with business and Nobuyuki Sake borrow. Who was the primary owner? At least the face of Pride I don't think he was going to be involved anymore. I didn't ask a lot of questions again just by nature. I usually just keep my head down and my my direct boss was a guy from Detroit named Jerry Mellon who. I'm still very good friends with so I didn't interact a lot. Misaki bar or Shinoda of the Japanese just other the shake hands and say hi so. I don't know the inner workings what do had planned with. The the frontier is how they were going to run it. Who was going to stay but we were told that the that the Tokyo office was definitely going to stay open and they were going to run cards. Yeah it's a shame of went out and you know I know it's trendy a lot of people who've been Ma fans for two years. Does it all I love pride but again I think you know people who are MMA fans who were probably over the age of thirty or maybe even thirty five years old who really watched pride in saw. I believe overtake the UFC chocolate. Del went over there on Frye. When over there randy come tour went over there always gracie went over there and then the stars they produced Vittore million ain't going find in rings but where he really became famous Miracle Crow Vanderlei Silva hit obviously fighting. Ufc but he became a huge star over there. And what is it? Shinya Aoki absolutely cartoon. Wasn't he yeah he He submitted Brian Lohan. You a Dutch Dutch kickboxer. Yeah what was Shinya? Visually was fighting on that card but he won the welterweight. No he got bigger and bigger Fifty five but yeah he five one forty five on order. He's what he's doing now. Shinya Yoki he's still under contract to One championship he randomly shows up and has the fights. He's a huge star in Japan and I'm sure he has his money and he's winding down his career. I saw Butterbean Live on the Chevenez de la. Hoya fight card in the fight was great because we right. It was at Caesar's and I'm not sure what venue wasn't Caesar's but as we we got to the top as walking down to our seats so the fight started when we're at the top of the stairs and it finished before we even research. It's just he just washed some some other some some can so was. I don't know him well. But I know Eric Butterbean national little bit. And he's a pretty cool guy is I? Don't know in combat sports and I don't mean this as unsold if anybody has ever done more with less the fact that he was able. I is a guy who never ever would have been remotely top ten in the world and to market himself such from Jasper Alabama and he had the look in the size and they continue to fight four around fights. You Know I. I don't know if you guys fully understand how boxing works but four rounders are meant to be for specific people. And there's a whole graduation process in boxing. You start in the fours. Then you go to sixes in the AIDS like you just couldn't turn pro and start fighting eight round fight. The most wanted to do was six in typically after you fide eight nine fights. They're not GonNa let you fight for rounders but Butterbean ash. Forty fights is still fighting for around ponds. Amazing what he was able to do full credit to him with his career and I believe that he would certainly be camden. Say he was never going to be world champion. He was never going to be great but he added style. He found exactly what he needed to do in who to be in boxing and the fact that probably more people know who butter being ashes than they would know who. Trevor Berbick is or Pink Lynn. Thomas James Bonecrusher Smith you know legitimate top level. Boxers world champions. That shows exactly the fact that you're asking me about being that he had. He's versatile athlete and now I I remember the Delaware Shabas fight and I remember the buttering fight on that card. You know and I you know. I consider myself to be somewhat of a semi serious boxing fan in the nineties. You know. But that's all that I buy pulled out of that fight. You know to this day. That's all I carry forward with me. You know what else? Jason I totally blanked here because we have on size of the week. Oh my God well What your side of the week. My on side of the week is people online with. Do you know anybody with corona okay. No that's not the point. You know I see outside of the week. What do they? What are they trying to accomplish with you? There's a lot. There's a lot of conspiracies. Going a lot of conspiracies. Yeah so it's like it's just it's ripe for like we kind like circling back to what we talked at the beginning like the conspiracy. There's will always be right at the at the end of this thing unless you know unless like everybody gets killed you know so should it? Should it turn out in a month? We go back to normal the conspiracy there would be like Say This is all bullshit. We didn't need to do anything you know. I guess let me build on that. Then my side of the weakest people who are putting things that stress me out of my timeline like for example this morning. Somebody's like put this They they tweeted out the tanks rolling into San Diego. Oh I stream I even for that to somebody and I looked at it again and I was like this fucking bullshit. I shouldn't yeah. I'm now an agent of that. Cher stress grading that stress creating thing and of course. There's a good explanation for it. It's like that's my on site of the week if you're going to put that kind of content on here just that's only created to create grief for me. You Know I. It's on in the street. It's on you might be able to beat me up. There's going to be a price you need to pay for this thing a friend of ours giving me all the corona virus updates every fucking The National Guards coming Fucking you know. Oh no now young. Now's getting young people to like every fucking every day. Something like motherfucker and no offense. I mean I understand. People need to share their story and stuff like that. But if you're on a ventilator don't don't do that Self Valley Shit but stressing me for me and I don't care if you're like. Oh look at me. I'm thirty five. I'm not gonNA ventilator. You know it can get you to. I don't WanNa hear shit about that. I agree I agree. I'm just you know I'm not about that. Life that ventilator life later I don't WanNa need one of those miss me with a ventilator stuff with chinese-made ventilators myth with the American made. Wants to though yeah like that the Swiss made ventilators. I don't want any of those Brasilia. Made make ventilated. Hey you need one. And Brazil's got one. I'm going I you know. I'll I'll help you get it. I mean at that point. You're not going to be that concerned about it. I don't think I I don't think so. Okay concern about where it's made ventilating. Is it ventilating? Your Luck Sean. Do you have onsite of the week? Anybody who is Is a Viacom executive. Released was when they got rid of me at Ballatore so really. There's still aren't land me absolutely. I don't I don't believe in being actively angry takes a lot of energy to be angry. Yeah not a big Fan of forgiveness to those who don't deserve forgiveness okay. There's finding that middle ground I think. But yeah there. There were few Boston fired. Be Mad at a boss who fired you. That can be an onsite. Yeah other few people. I don't even know if they work there anymore. Not No probably not I mean Broadway and I know Kevin K- who was the heated directly. Fire me but he was president of Spike who then when they transitioned paramount than he got fired so I do know that like the Goldie transition or did Goldie come on after that. Oh no no. So what the story on Bella Tours. So I worked for Bjorn Rodney. Who's we actually had a great conversation last Saturday? Bjorn and I'm I think one of the few people in the industry who's still have relationship with Bjorn. Rodney in our talks are about non-fighting things about our kids and just life in general last Saturday. He was telling me about a week ago. Saturday as we're recording this on Sunday two Saturdays ago he was telling me about in California and he used the phrase end of days. I'm like well not here yet because I'm about to walk into my gym but little slower together. We're yeah we're you're geographically. We're in pretty much the best base on earth you beyond for real. But YOU'RE BJORN RED NI and a lot of people have issue with him. I'm not as his defender. I can just say that's the best person fighting I've ever worked for joining something like you said you've been with almost thirty promotion. Yeah and I've loved working for Bjorn. Bjorn is the man who created Delatour He wound up selling his controlling interest of Viacom in. I believe October September October. Two Thousand Eleven He then became a paid employee in eventually he got fired in two thousand fourteen and then they slowly picked us all off one by one either outright fired or when our contracts were gone. So you're not a big fan of the Viacom people then that is Ringo Starr says peace and love right. He's not actively what is your. How did you get into martial arts? How did you get into that story? Yeah I'm so somebody who always loved pro wrestling. I Love Boxing. I am the son of a single Mama's raised by my mom but my dad was in my life. He really liked baseball really like boxing which is funny because my dad was not a great athlete. He was a college professor. He certainly was not a tough guy was. What did you teach a reading education for forty years? Yeah and sons a college dropout who makes his living talking about people getting punched and kicked in the head but there you go but my dad loved. Boxing turned me onto it. And I spend most Friday nights as a kid with my dad and his house and watch the back in the era when you could still see top fights on network television. See there on Friday nights Ron Saturday afternoons watching boxing with my dad but I just always gravitated to that. It was a huge mark as a kid. I was actually at Memorial Hall. God that was probably six or seven years old. I should know the urine pretty good with years but I don't know the year someone in listening will when Rick flair his I ever. Nwea growth heavyweight title defeated Dusty Rhodes. Was there memorial hall as a little kid so I love that my best friend who? I'm still in contact with all the way from the fifth grade. He was arrested or very good wrestler. When for grade school the way through high school together so I was always around it. I don't think I just had the strength of character. The determination the will to be a wrestler. Because I know what you guys went through. I like to think I'm that person now. Certainly wasn't that person as a kid but I always loved contact sports. I always loved that. Learn how to box a little bit not very well. Wound refereeing boxing before athletic commissions. When the promoter be like hey ref yes sure you showed up. It's ridiculous. This is pre athletic commission stuff. This is like nine hundred ninety s stuff and just eventually. I found a gym where I thought it would be right. And Steve Scott. Whose photo is on the wall at American top team. Welcome Mat and I searched round. I found Steve Scott and started training there and just fell in love with it. It was it was a hybrid of Jiu Jitsu Gi Ju Jitsu and Sombo Judo. The world's worst judo player and I hated the judo stuff. But I love grappling stuff. And you know right being being from this part of the country at least in my junior high school we were doing folk style wrestling gym class. So I think Being in a little bit I was at the dreaded Hawker Grove Junior high school. Oh Yeah Bane of the Shawnee Mission School District Allie from Europe from around here. Oh schone Kansas. And all the way. Yeah but but the bad part of Sean. Wink wink the rich kids went to Terrell Ridge the poor kids with Oscar Grove for being a relative term but yeah we would have folk style wrestling in class in junior high school and Even at high school I went to China northwest so I was always around it. I just never really pursued it and I think it was just lacking strength of character to be honest with you finally. I thought you know what I'm going to go in. And if I get smashed which I probably will that's fine if I get humbled which probably well that's fine. That's why it's so difficult especially for seventeen and eighteen year olds to go into a fight Jim because it's so much about at that age bravado and you're GonNa be Strip that absolutely. I think it's easier to find MMA or even Jujitsu in your twenties thirties or even your forties. Because you're probably less dependent on putting that front. I mean if you think about it you know somebody we're talking about about Grant Dawson. Somebody like grant war. Jeff Molina starting teenagers and going in and just getting smashed and smoked at takes real strength of character. That's why you don't see a ton of seventeen and eighteen year olds in MMA. Gyms you see more people in their Twenties Thirties. Forties and fifties quite. Frankly yeah yeah. That's the that that's sort of in my thirties. I would drive by a go to starbucks was by my work and it was by Steve Crawford's absolutely JJ place right. And I as I was waiting in the drive thru line. I always drive by Crawford's and so I I had to sit there because the line was next Crawford's and I'd be like there's no fucking way I'm going in that place and it's just because I just didn't I just didn't want to deal with that bullshit and so but it was. I finally did come to a point where it's like okay. I think I'm ready to give this thing a try but but it's tough. It is a kid like saying the dreaded Hawker Grove. All the dougie kids. The kids would wear like iron maiden t shirts and smoke in the parking lot. At fourteen for school they would go to There was Can Po- Karate School in Shawnee off of Johnson? Dr Long Gone and those are the kids and I flirted with the idea of going on my mom. We didn't have a lot of extra money. She was a public school art teacher. Which is like sure if you want to do it and then I would see those kids wearing the Ozzy Osbourne shirts and the and the iron maiden shirts and the Nazareth's shirts on it. Yeah there's no way then God help me. I've seen blood sport. I know what happens? Turn Up Shanley to kill that guy and he killed then you have you. Do you recall your like your first sort of Jujitsu. All ground wrestling experience. Do you recall that when I went into Steve Scott in Your Business Partner Derek? Darling I like to call my best friend in. Kansas City's like my friend from high school lives in New York. And most people who. I'M FRIENDS WITH PEOPLE. I work with on various promotions and I see I don't see but Derek Darlene who's now with phenomenal graph. Where have you have? You rolled Tarik Jason. Now have you guys need to? I want to see that. Actually I might comment it because I have some free time now but Derek I started as white belts and I think Derek's ten years younger than me maybe but he was definitely more athletic and more coordinated but he knew nothing and I knew nothing and I was bigger and stronger and we were thrown together as the two white belt. He may be started two or three weeks before me and now he's a phenomenal blackbelt in my grappling coach. But I don't remember the first time but I just remembered Silvester Powell community center and Mariam and going in there and there was a whole range of people and there are some really good black belts and there were a lot of guys who had wrestled in high school in the few college wrestlers and then there were people like their darling myself who just were attracted to. It had never really found a way in and suddenly found a way into this. What else I'm Anita Nothing we talked about the on sites think we got to what else. Well you know the One of the one of the things I saw in your Wiki pedia page. Which you know you've made it if you get your own page. So congratulations made it. I think by the way I'll just go off on a ranch here. I always see the most people I think who do what I do for a living play by play commentary. Have I like John Amick a lot? I wish I I saw him more because I really like antics. But we're GONNA play by play guys. We never on the same shows but outside of I really don't like play-by-play guys. They're usually viciously insecure There were all failed athletes. Anybody who does play by play color. Commentators are the athletes. Like if you were doing a fight. You're the color commentator. You're the guy who's achieved play by play. We're all by play. Guys are really people who love sports. Who are terrible. That's really it and most won't admit it and whatever the difference color so-so play by play is really about who in the what so? Mike? Goldberg's the play by play commentator. I'm we'll play by play. Com- Jon Anik when you watch boxing with our conseil color commentator and even producers don't always understand this term color commentator would be. You would be Tony. Romo would be Joe Rogan. It would be Tim McArthur Joe. Buck is a play by play commentator. John smoltz's a color commentator. Play by play is really about who in the white and the color commentators about the Wyan how. That's the best way to explain it whether you're doing football play by play man. I'M GONNA play by play man but on the teaming up with Jason. He's the color commentator. And so how would you? How would you communicate your guys is sort of Mo how would you communicate how you WANNA play? Which of standing question so what we would talk about. Talk about off air is I would say all right for instance we're doing MMA so. I'm going to say now now locks on the camera. That's the WHO in the what I want you to talk about the Alex on so so I'm saying that what he needs to do to finish or with the other fighter needs to do to defend. It took a war. If he's not getting the tap the attacking fighter. Wisey not getting submission. You might see. The wrist position is wrong. You might hips are in the wrong place. Might talk about turning all the way in the house stuff. I mean huge. Nfl Fan if you listen to Tony Romo spectacular. He's great he's always talking about the why and the how. Jim nance is talking about a thirty yard. Pass by Deck Dak Prescott and then Romo's going to talk about what the safety did. And what the offensive line did and the route. The receiver ran. That's all the why. And The how vision into motivations and challenges and and being a commentator is really about teaching. You're teaching the audience. You're explaining play by play really is in should be about the basic facts about the. Who in the way and so what was Howard Cosell? Howard cosell when he did boxing he was the play by play commentator but cosell would also do shows like sports speed and he would things on world is sports was with his interviews where he became a larger than life figure on. Monday night football. He was that third role which then they later tried with. Dennis Miller tried with Tony Kornheiser to it was almost an invented role for Howard cosell in the famous Monday night. Football Team Frank. Gifford was the play by play. Commentator Don Meredith was the color commentator in Cosell just kind of was Howard cosell. He was a talent on that. What set me off from my ran on Wikipedia so outside of antic. I don't really like but he played by commentators. And you'll see on wikipedia page. It's not that I'm stocking on wikipedia. But they'll be like forty pages in when they were a sophomore in high school they were third place and the allstate track. It's like it's so obvious you guys wrote this yourself. Oh see maybe. That's maybe that's all go fight on the street instead of the vice item best onsite who right their whom we compete with. You mentioned wikipedia. So it's not only did I not right that I'm not smart enough to know how ricky right but it is it is flattering. We Know Shit. Yeah I mean I be I beyond. That would be like my. You might have a wikipedia without what actually rather than not no. I would have to have virtually everybody. Who's your loved one. I don't know how it is but you would have won. But yeah if you gotta Google Yourself. That's like that's like me looking at tanks rolling into San Diego. It's like very stressful. But but yeah on this point so so find less than a plus level. Play by play commentator. Someone you're may be seeing on like small college basketball on ESPN or an F. S. Two and look at their wikipedia page. And if it's longer than you graphs they wrote it themselves. They were Utah Sportscaster of the year. No offense but I I think this is a point of for you but I think you should just capitulate and start filling out your wikipedia page review. I just can't be bothered I well. You weren't too busy all kinds of just on that note. It's like my wife started. Clean up the house and my wife is a notorious pack rat. She likes started cleaning the house. Oh my God. This virus thing is all right. Because he's got piles of shoes from one thousand nine hundred from two thousand late like stacked up in our fucking room right also. The shoes disappeared. I'm like Oh my God. There is a benefit to this thing. Sure believe me. I'd rather not send the world into a spiralling depression just to get the fucking shoes one of the things that is currently on your your non created. We compete page. Is The pedia right now. I was yeah you co wrote the Art Davies Book about the founding of the UFC ARE DEVI is That's a friendship like one I've never had before. He's He's actually listed his dad and my phone A younger daughter who just had her birthday birthday strangely is how the world works out is the day before her birthday. Hadley was nine is Saint Patrick's day birthday and Art GRANDPA are to Elliott Hadley An Ellie my older daughter's for call him GRANDPA or just got a great birthday gift from him or David was married. Four Times never had kids My Dad died in two thousand eleven. I was raised by my mom. We never set out to have this sort of newfound father son relationship but I think it just kind of worked out this way and the standard to my kids but through our friendship we started talking about doing a project and I pitched an idea of a book to Him and maybe two thousand twelve two thousand thirteen about the origin of the UFC and originally thought. Let's talk to everybody. Maybe do it as an oral history and is arts telling you the stories you know. The proverbial light bulb went off over my head. One day like I don't need to talk to Ken Shamrock. I don't need to talk to Oriane grace yet. I need to talk about Meyrowitz. I need to get everything from art or created the UFC he finally got put in the UFC hall of fame and it was one of the biggest donors in my life that he asked me to give induction speech which was great two years ago the UFC hall of fame and meant so much to me on that. I'm not an emotional person that was really emotional night for all of us involved or Davy created. He picked up John Milius he picked up hoary on Gracie he picked up Meyrowitz. Who WOUND UP selling the company to for a million dollars after? Ufc five or Davy created this. You know everybody will tell you who did some type of martial arts in the eighties all we had you have. Ufc In my gym. We just didn't know what to call it. Yeah no kidding. But no one figured out how to monetize it or David didn't invite invent fighting and he's the first one to say that ARC. Davey figured out how to bring together monetize the real genius beyond that of our Davey though increasing the UFC which spent four years of his life doing. He's an advertising executive. Start working on this project in an October. Nineteen eighty nine. You Have C. One was November Twelfth Nineteen ninety-three quit his job. Spent his savings brought people in along for the ride. He sought out Hori grace. He started training. There got his blue belt sought out Bob. Meyrowitz sought John. Milius found John. Mccarthy recruited the fighters did this but the genius of our. He knew that there was fighting out there. He knew what was going on in Japan. There were shoots. There were works on it the next match fighting Shoot fighting but our David figured out how to bring in all of the rules and in put them all together in a blender because if you look at the the the fights of give talk about Antonio Inoki vs Muhammad Ali. A lot of people think that was work was supposed to be working. It was an actual shoot but they put all these rules that I- okey couldn't kick all the unless he was on the Mat and He was afraid of getting knocked out all. He was afraid of being taken down and submitted or pummeled on the ground. When Judo Jean Lebel in nineteen sixty three five meal savage Which was a mixed match fight? Yeah it's on. Youtube is very cool. judo gene made sure that me savage were were a certain weight of gloves is Batman. Judo gene is and I loved judo. Jean Lebel but he was worried about getting knocked out. All these rules on what you couldn't couldn't do that was the history mix match fighting are Davies. Said if you WANNA punch cool if you want to keep cool if you want to grapple cool we're not gonNA limit you'll standing or on the ground great story and I told this at UFC hall hall of fame on the introductory an introductory speech Taylor Tooley who is now an actor he taylor is is is fighting named Matteo Taylor. Wiley is what he goes by. And that's his name. He's on Hawaii. Five O fights the very first fighting very first. Ufc is the one who gets kicked in the face by Gerard Cordell. Okay Yeah so Taylor. Tuli come out of Sumo's living in Hawaii night before UFC wants this is November eleventh nineteen ninety-three comes up and he says Mr Davie he said you know in Honolulu. My getting street fights I just picked guys up and I just throw them so. Can I pick up my opponents and throw them out of the cage Argos Abso fucking lutely and that was it right there that was the crystallized moment because everything else was. Well Jason Your wrestler so you can only hold on the ground for five minutes or well. You're a kickboxer so you can't kick below the waist or still setris created to just get one guy over but yet. Lewis fucked up the fight. Kazan it didn't look right and what art said is even though Hoary Greasy. He was his business partner in this they cone created. Ufc together through a holding company called. Wow promotions the it was originally meant to be called war of the worlds. And we're going to be copyright issues from the Orson Welles Washer. So but they still use their their. Llc is while promotions or may have been in ink actually but it was war war of the worlds but Hori on Gracie stayed out of the business stuff by enlarge art. Davie recruited horry ungracefully. Because he knew that he needed an an entree into the martial arts world and here you have Oriane gracie pretty spectacular on that. But he didn't allow Orien- Gracie to create a rule set to put over any member of Gracie Jiu. Jitsu turned out to be his brother. Heus in the first. Ufc ARE DAVIS SAYS. When we talked about in the book eating care who won he absolutely did not care who won and he wanted that rule set. So you WANNA wear cool if you want to wear a tie trunks cool if you wanNA wear gloves like our Jim Boring one glove if you WANNA kick you WanNa choke whatever that's the genius of the UFC. That was the puzzle that nobody could put together so for whatever was happening in Japan or whatever was happening in gyms all across the United States. And we did this and that if you really dig deep on people who say Oh yeah. We had a. We had well. Ufc fights in my gym in one thousand eighty eight. We just didn't know what to call it. Well did you guys submit. Well no no no. We didn't actually do that. We just kicked punched. Or Oh real. Did you allow kicks to the well? No we didn't do that. Could you punch someone in the face while no we had open hand slaps UFC one are Davey created MMA? Because he is the I. It seems so simple now as we look from the year. Twenty twenty but just put people together and let them use their style and let's see the best style wind in a lot of that came out of the fact that our Davy he boxed a little bit golden gloves as a kid he had done some taekwondo when he got he was a marine and Vietnam done some taekwondo but he wasn't an Acolyte of any style and even when he started training under oriented then Gracing got his blue bell. He's still said I wasn't fully in our likes to say drank too cool lady. I didn't fully drink the GRACIE. Cool eight is what he'll tell you. So he wasn't such an Acolyte of Gracie Jiu Jitsu or Brazilian Jujitsu. As a whole that he wanted to create a role set. And that's why you see these crazy fights. That's why your Gordo kicking Taylor tool in the mouth I watched. Ufc One live. My mom bought me the pay per view I recorded. I still have that original recording the on. Ufc fight pass. They don't have the full card. You have to be a colossal nerd and a colossal saver like May to have that what exists in what you find on the internet or on. Ufc fight pass is the cut down from Vidmar entertainment which got a distributed in one thousand nine hundred five but the original one broadcast is pretty much lost a history. You have to recorded off. Air Arcadia doesn't even have a copy of and you do. I do few people who do. But for instance you got the you basically have the prelims of the UFC one prelims. There was an alternate fight. Jason Dilution choked out trend Jenkins. That's out I think I think the original running time I know this. I had the time for the book. And it's like an hour and fifty six or an hour and fifty minutes but what got released was ninety minutes so a lot of the commentator gaffes alive the dead time Elliott Gracie gives gives a speech and gets an award. All of that is cut out of VID mark. What was the word they gave him? I mean it was. You know we've got a lifetime or David wanted to get Bruce Lee and was was obviously personally had passed away them. But it actually talked to Bruce Lee's widow but then there was one of the few times when Hori on in a business decision said note. We're going to honor my father artifical because he thought the World Valley Gracie but none of that exists unless you have the VHS and I know there are a few people. I don't know how many of us there are. Maybe what twenty? One hundred two hundred. But if you Google now and you find a bootleg of U. C. One online. I think like there's A. There's a Russian Youtube version that has it or UFC fight pass but that's not new to us you incursion. But Yeah so so the book it talks about. It's not biography. It's a memoir talks about the four years really of Art Davies life creating the UFC way through UFC. One in the night after that It's been optioned for a movie long. Slow process I learned a new verb which are called attachments. Didn't want an attachment wasn't attachment is when this person says. I'm going to direct person. Says I'm going to start. It's not legally binding. It's kind of this weird Hollywood gray area the me being from Shawnee Kansas. I don't know a lot about but we have a script with two really good screenwriters script is Don. We have a producer. Who Do is the person who actually buys your option. We have a director so we will say it's interesting it's weird it's Hollywood stuff. I know nothing about so. We're really at the mercy of others which is not something. I like to be in life at the mercy of others but we are in this case so knock on wood. I'll do it loud enough so my microphone picks up. This could be a film but the person who they on to direct to someone. I'm a big fan of any and really talented. And we'll get it and then you can gain momentum on projects are projects can just go away. Yeah so I'm an optimist by nature though so I'm GonNa say we'll gain momentum. We shall see so when you get into the gym. Do you still roll with other? People was rolling on Friday. And is it. Do you find that people? WanNa get pieces Sean. Wheelock and take it home. People think people think I'm a really good fighter because I- commentate fighting people think I'm so much better than I am. That's no one's trying to like like pummel me. They just. I think. Expect me to be a lot better than I am. I think it's like like most through being friends with Jason. Hi Somehow all of that talent filtered over to to my body didn't work that way just because I know Jason Hi in Fatarudin Million Anco. Tito Ortiz doesn't mean I fight like them. Yeah but no people of people are Nice. No one's trying to prove a point. Maybe if I were in boxing it'd be different in boxing gym but I just think people are surprised that I'm not bad because somehow commentating for pride and commentating for Bella tore afflictions said or. They think you're just you're wrong with these guys in the off and all your also like to always go with people better than me you know for me to go in. I don't I got plenty of love as a child so I don't need a self esteem boost where I need to go and beat up somebody in the gym. Who's worse than me? That's where you and I are different. I like to go and I always want to go with people better than me so if you do something. It's great because I mean the thing is even if you know a little bit of Jujitsu you take any random person off the street and you're going to sit them at ten seconds even if you're a terrible white belt because they don't know anything they don't they don't know how to defend a guillotine. They've never had a choke on people. Panicked apple the time so they feel pressure from a knee bar or he'll hook hooker even in the Kelly's locked they'll tap so I like to go against guys better but now I have more free time to get into the gym but I guess the gyms will all be closed. Get fucked on that deal you and so have you been. Have you reached belt? Doodoo Nikki too. I was I got to be a blue belt. And then I realized that I hated ruling in a ghee. And I've probably not put on a g eight or nine years. I just wouldn't you hate you. Hate about rolling and again I hate the guys who are geese. Specialists were pulling he's over my head and pulling my belt and and all of these ridiculous key things and all the stupid cross chokes. Which is nice. It's just not what I wanted. I'm not going to compete. I'm not going to become a professional fighter. I don't do competitions. I'm doing it because I enjoy it the way. Some people might play golf or go bowling. I do because I enjoy it. And it's fun and I like to challenge and I push myself and then I realized if I'm not having fun in enjoy more Nogi them. Why am I going to? Yeah but you only have so much time even digs they think like the way you guys approach and certainly as someone who's division one wrestler in a pro-am eighth fighter you're approaching the differently but we all know those straight GI specialists and they're doing all these ridiculous gi things. I don't want my jacket pulled over my head. This isn't a hockey fight. Or if you've had the guys they'll take your your belt and then the like started like tiger your your belt around your wrist. It's like what have I got myself into a Russ Meyer film. What is going on with this? That's just I just don't have fun with that role on a roll and may trunks and have fun and do Yogi Rolling. Yeah yeah whatever you're grappling said yeah the beauty of grappling to if you really think about this and Post Latour. I've been commentating a ton of boxing. I Love Boxing. Mma more. But I do love boxing and you think about it like if you went and sparred with a really good boxer. I mean your different obviously but for mortals like US Jason Different. You can go in with a really good boxer. You're at least going to hold your own. You'RE NOT GONNA get lit up but if they can only go so hard on this and then it's not gonNa be good then. We might have a headache for three months. But you're so much better than me Jason on the ground but we can go. You can tap me out ten times in an hour but I'm still going to go home and dinner and play with my kids. That's what I love about. You know I'll I'll roll against Gordon Rhino Role Against Craig Jones. But I'm not going to go in a box with Roy Jones Junior. That's that's the difference is so great about grappling. Jujitsu is you can go against people who are absolutely world-class so much better than you. You might get roughed up. You're certainly going to get humbled but you're not going to be physically disabled syndrome. The experience the way that you would if you go against somebody at high level and boxing who really wants to turn it up on you to build on your point. I think that's the other thing that makes Jujitsu and the scrambling arts so amazing is that we essentially can catch passes from Tom. Brady right you know I can can can be Jim. Find ourselves rolling with Jason. Hi You know what I mean. And so that's that's I don't think that exists in almost any other sport really doesn't essentially show up Stampa ticket for ten dollars and we can essentially catch passes from Tom. Brady just. It's it's unrealistic anywhere else yet. We can we can see ourselves against the highest level of competition in the sport just by by participating and that's really one of the great things about I think Yeah No. I agree and I think culturally to Jason. Have you ever gone to a straight boxing gym? Did you ever like a like a straight boxing gym? Yeah they need they tried to kill you. Have the sparring in God. Have now to your professional fighter. Because they'll turn it up even more. I always know the biggest cultural difference if you go into an gym or Jujitsu school. They're going to be gentle. They're going to be nice. You know the best guy to go with is going to be the black because they want you to come back in a boxing gym. If you go in. They're going to try to you unconscious and make you throw up so you never come back again until Jim started opening in this country there was really no place for somebody over the age of twenty to go in and learn how to box. Unless you've found someone who is a boxer was willing to do privates because you just could not go into a boxing gym unless you were a Kid. Got To twenty. Where were you going to you know you could find a taekwondo school? There really weren't any schools at least in this city until probably what the last ten years and even then it's an MMA gyms but if you think about it when we were all in high school where are we going to go into a boxing gym and if we walk in they're going to try to knock unconscious and they probably would maybe not you Jason. But they would probably do that. It's such a weird counterintuitive thing culturally with boxing. No one's GonNa be gentle with you in a boxing gym walking in hoping that you'll come back they're going to try to try to smash you and see how tough you are trying to make you not. WanNa come back. Y- boxing didn't get turned into like the like the business like a manager touchdown -solutely so like and you'll hear people talk about this to how you gotta keep the fighters separate from regular boxers. You go into boxing gym. And they're just like these are all fighters you know. There's no like regular person business. Absolutely I mean it can be a very very brutal place you know. In a lot of professional may fighters have stories of going? I say God help you if they find out. You're a professional fighter now. I mean we used to play authentic wax absolutely and it's just like you described it like there before practice. They're running and they turn on the heat during sparring. No fucking regular person's going on here it's it's it's ninety five degrees and we're being this shit at each other you know. I only the people that are trying to fight. You are going to be in there but if you think about it before him. A major gyms. Where would thirty year old adult learn how to box talking about fitness or Cardio Boxing? At less you knew someone who was a boxer or a boxing trainer. Who is willing to do privates with you? Where would you learn how to box because you're not going to walk into a box of at thirty first of all they're gonNA probably say you're too old get out because they're going to start with kids they want you nine years old or maybe fifteen of your eighteen year? Probably say tool. That's what's so cool about. Mma gyms is that it's opened up boxing. It's opened up. Moi tides opened up all of this striking for people that I think was just not available. You know what I was talking earlier about. Were the experience of watching. Ufc One live. When I watched that I knew there was a thing called shoot fighting Japan. I wasn't quite sure if it was a worker. A shoot I didn't I knew it existed. I heard of like bus route and Bart Vale and Ken Shamrock and Nielsen. But I didn't really understand what it was but I never heard of Jujitsu let alone Gracie Jiu Jitsu resilient as I know what you Jitsu was never heard of moines tie. I mean I'm learning. I never survive. I had never heard of SOMBO. These are all terms you know to me is a kid like like the fourteen year old version of me who is a huge boxing fan huge pro wrestling fan. There was karate and I didn't really understand. I had no awareness of the different styles of karate. There was karate judo which I did not understand the difference between judo karate and taekwondo. I don't even I maybe I. I'm not sure how much I really even knew about. Taekwondo a maybe a little bit and then I knew wrestling but I didn't. I didn't understand that. And you know it's different if you live on the east coast to the west coast of this country but for US midwesterners. Mma Open the door to all of this. I mean go back THIRTY YEARS THIRTY YEARS. One thousand nine hundred ninety wherever the JJ schools. Where would you learn how to do multi you know it was maybe find a judo club through the a you? But it's just amazing. I think we all overlook that and take it for granted now how many different disciplines of fighting have been opened up through. Mma there were just completely Unaccessible before and like you said totally unknown accessible just unknown. My my buddy Joe Wilkins Jillian. I'm Joe Awoke close friend of mine. Joe Wilcox talks about going to a seminar in the nineties and it was topped by Gracie Blue Belt. Because where are you gonNA find to hot so euros? Bluebell yeah you have a blue belt from from Hickson Gracie or or Oriana wailer gracie teaching seminars? And they were just in awe and what about that are Davey? Davey have any stories about how he got his blue belt like since he got under. Those guys was crazy did he. Share increase is easy. Just really worked them. What aren't new was that he hit he had to win the trust of the Gracie family and that was Elliott Gracie. That was horry on. That was Hickson heus pretty much one along with what the older brothers and Dads said but he comes in is one. He's an he's a New Yorker Reese from Brooklyn. He's already forty. Four forty five by this point so he's going to a gym in in southern Los Angeles counties in Torrance Almost Orange County though. Like who is this guy's in advertising guy and he had this show that he was down with it or else he never would have gotten hoary on and ultimately the data. Allio to give the blessing to be in business. art said that he was he was told. I think it was Frederica Lapente or maybe John Jackman Machado but it was one of the Brazilian grace's a long time so we have an expression. There is no shade under a Gracie tree for anyone except the Gracie meaning that they look out for their own. Really not GONNA help. Outsiders and art knew that he had to become an insider and he loved it he absolutely loved it any love training and he met people like John McCarthy there but he knew that he had to show up at the Academy Multiple Times a week and really put in the work. Get the Blue Belt. And that was going to help on the business he was. He was being pragmatic he was having fun and he was really enjoying. Jujitsu but he was being pragmatist as well. This is what I have to earn their trust which is to show up here via student and really show that. I'm completely devoted to this. And how did our DV get John McCarthy involved in this or why did you get involved in this? Because I watched you want like what the fuck is John McCarthy. Doing here you know. I just don't get here so that store. John was LAPD officer a lot of LAPD officers. Yeah for Longtime John Retired. There's no APD officer a lot of LAPD. Officers had found even before the Gracie Academy when they were teaching out of their garage. Degrassi family home in Redondo beach and John was training there. I think John even a purple belts. Maybe a blue belt still and art saw him and arts very friendly outgoing guy and got to know John the art sorry John did not referee. Ufc One tell that story in a moment. He was to Brazilian referees. Who are friends? And they'd been black belted under Elliott Gracie from Brazil. Neither one of whom spoke English. If you go back and you watch you see one you see. They just made a complete meal of it. They really both had Elliott video and I should know the name of the other Referee I'm drawing a blank on it at the moment but one was Elliott video. But they were. They were older. I think in their forties fifties at time but again they were Elliott Gracie students. Joe McCarthy was brought in for simulating a big man. He because they knew that hoists might go against somebody very big and Hickson and especially Oreo onto their credit. Never tried to manipulate the draw. They let are Davis set the bracket but they knew they had Taylor Tooley. Who's over four hundred pounds of Kevin Rozier? Who's about to eighty two ZANE frazier? Who's about to eighty? They wanted a bigger sparring partner. John was irregular so they brought John into the main sparring partner trading partner. The week of in Denver for Heus also is a story in the book. And I've not really seen this put anywhere else. On I love this story the Gracie family. There's always a lot of traumas in dramas so not helsing but high Elson Gracie who is a first cousin of hoary on in Hickson. I think he's Carlos one of Carlos Gracie sons. He was in a legal battle over the the triangle the racy triangle and he told a story on that he was GONNA come to. Denver in bring his gun and he was gonNA murdering so John McCarthy LAPD officer H- oriented make sure you bring your service revolver and just keep a watch out for this guy. Because I think this my cousins GonNa come and try to murder me for real. That's a good reason why he didn't ref that I talk about it. But so after after the first show Elliott video and all the other referees name again. It's in the book. They just had a complete disaster so there so Hori on in art or basically doing post mortem what went right. What went wrong. Do the second and I believe it was Hoary on who said what about McCarthy doing it he's a big guy he's a cop he understands Jitsu he's one of our own. What about him and thought great. I believe that's a double check with both but I believe credit goes to hold on in an artsy absolutely John's. The perfect guy so arts idea was to have like a lifeguard basically like a lifeguard share where? John would sit up there almost a lifeguard when to stop the fighting with linked joe down down down down. They sell so right so John. Mccarthy said yeah referee but I'm not sitting any chair that's the worst idea ever. John started refereeing from UFC. Two onwards words and John's like me John's a lifelong boxing fan them. Yeah absolutely which Mills Lane started and then John Talk. But John Reached out to referees and John was the Perfect Guy. He'd been an athlete. He was a Polo player actually at USC WATER POLO PLAYER RATE Athlete John. Mccarthy was a water polo player. Briefs this out of this off. He's an lapd that's amazing he's an lapd officer. He's in his early thirties. At this point he's training fulltime at the Gracie Academy any you should and he had boxes. Kid is an amateur so and he's also a big physically imposing guy with the voice always like joggers and LAPD MODE. People will listen. Even if they're not afraid of John and some of the fighters were afraid of John. Someone but they all listen when he spoke. He has that commanding presence. I love McCarthy's one of my best friends. He has that commanding presence. So McCarthy was is the Perfect Guy John did it reluctantly. John wanted to fight in the. Ufc He just okay. I'll try this and see how it goes. And he was. He was brilliant to and see what happened to him. Well that's a good story. John's Co Guy Jaundice the coolest decor we end on. This go ahead house has got back looking. Do you have a back up. Oh my God I do not. Oh good we're in the same boat. Wait if that's not true. You got a bug out bag going okay. All right well then I guess I don't have back either. I don't have I you know I got a couple of bucks and I got some some rice dried rice and beans. That's it yeah we have things I guess we could just put together and take but not immediately. No Sean what we started by talking about a couple of years ago was a bug APP. Act like in case of the Zombie Apocalypse. Like what we'd be able to get out of the House with and my initial thought was just cash in Porno mags And of course Jason's a little more sensible and he's thinking guns and butter and all that stuff. Yeah fucking But you know that's kind of that's where you're now he. We're actually here with an apocalypse in possible. Okay COME HYSTERIA. Got Another empty hand. Well listen my begging hands. Yeah we're we're we're not about to go anywhere. It's the chances are will be at the house. If the if the bug out scenarios coming I have time to push it into the But we do have. We do have food. That's transportable and I got a few things to defend myself with. Defend US with these hands. These hands on a couple of things but other than that. We're just in the house now. So we'll see how it goes triple X. lockdown triple X. Lockdown edit this out but we can ask We'll just Shawna goodbye. I don't think Sean has a bug. I by he doesn't. He didn't seem like he didn't want to give details. Or maybe that's the best thing be about. What am I talking about telling everybody? Just come to the House and this is not ready at all. I don't have a bug out. Bag But Schaub behead toe is the referee. I knew it would pop into my really. So Elliott is your Washington show but has gone. I knew I would think of it. And what was his name one more time. Show this guy's a wizard with the name that opposite of this. I'm like two minutes. Go okay the last thing I'll say is that this play by play so difficult because I remember once Jason like asked me. I saw the headline fight. You know the night before and Jason again didn't get sees like tell me about the fight and I tried to describe the fight Jason like and it was high impact fight very exciting and I watched it very closely and I felt like after I described the fight to Jason. He knew less about price when I started. You know play by play in general. It's a really weird thing if you want to call it entertainment I. I'm not a journalist like my i. It's entertainment sports entertainment but you're performer. Like it or not like as entertaining. I don't know how entertaining I am. Probably not very but it. It's an entertainment within the realm of that being a performer. Being an entertainer play by play is really weird. Like I don't think of myself is overly talented. I can't act. I'm not a great public speaker. Have you ever tried to act though? I'm in one movie and I'm so bad until that story just awful. I'm so wooden in that awful I cast in it was when I was a soccer commentators called game at their lives with Patrick Stewart. And it's not a very and John. Lewis Picard you're in a movie with fucking guys mazing. I'm really bad. Incredible really bad but play my players weird like you know whatever one thinks of Ryan seacrest as an example Ryan. Seacrest is a really really good host. He could not do play by play. Play by play. It's kind of like hitting the curve ball in baseball. Like you might not be good at other things but for some reason you can hit a curve ball in baseball. That's what play by plays. It's a really narrowly defined skillset. Most people I've found kids who WANNA go into sports broadcasting. When do play by play the reality is they? Don't WanNA posting you. Get the camera time. You read off a teleprompter play by plates may be for ten percent of people who want to go in people. Either take twitter. They don't. I'M NOT SOMEONE. Who LOVES TO BE ON CAMERA? I've never wanted act. I'm not again. I'm not a great public speaker. I'll host Wayne's if they ask me but I'm not someone who wants the camera the attention on I just like talking about live sports mainly life fights. Is THEY UNFOLD. And there are a few of us who founded. But I really look at him like it's just. It's a strange thing because you have to prep but you also have to react in the moment to it and I can always hear wind guys have the canned lines and the cliches and throw out the same things and it gets old it really does or when guys have kind of scripted. The end of their sporting event whether it's fighting baseball or football or whatever in that doesn't work but play by plays this weird little channel within entertainment or performing and again. I'm certainly not the most talented guy in this business and I'm not diverse at all but for whatever reason it just lines up with my skill set to where I love. I don't WanNa do anything else in this industry. I did a studio show for two years when I was a soccer commentator worked for Fox the one that was saying the studio when we're under the best of pride and I hated it. I'm not very good reading off of a teleprompter I just. I'm just uncomfortable with that. But it's the opposite for most people on probably intended to five percent of people who work as broadcasters who want to do play by play. Most people find it very hard. I find the hard stuff like sitting at at at an anchor desk reading off of a teleprompter doing things like that. Or when I see people as game show host or lighten. If you see like Ryan seacrest does on mass or on American idol and mass singer. That's not easy. That is tough. Yeah that is tough position. You're out there all right then Sean. Thanks for coming on man. I love being here. I got to get out of the house. This is awesome. Yeah before lockdown. That's going to get it. We'll do it over zoom skype right all right well. This is This is it. Thank you both of you guys. I I really enjoyed it. Great questions this is really funny. Thank you for having me signing off Slipping feet tall two a shoes shoes. I can. You go search in instead of two two Purdue said

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UF 361: Rafael dos Anjos, Junior dos Santos, and Russell Peters

UFC Unfiltered with Jim Norton and Matt Serra

54:40 min | 1 year ago

UF 361: Rafael dos Anjos, Junior dos Santos, and Russell Peters

"Doc Best Guy in the war. Yeah I know that I had to champion. That's here for your winning tontons. Ladies and gentlemen adjust. I'm feeling very good. I Want Europe. See Rats on another knockout welcome to UFC filtered as that's playing we have a Aldo Santos. We have junior dough. Santos we also have my pal One of the biggest drawing comedians in the World Russell Peters will be on today's a huge anime fan could find a good friend of Bruce buffers a really great guy and very funny I heard he does Jujitsu. Yes yes he does boxes but the important thing here is I ate some of those pretzels peanut butter in them. And I'm just feeling like a fat pig every time I get social media clips to tweet out I look. I'm like why is Matt talking to that water balloon. Oh that's me Jimmy. What a FAT head? I'M NOT GONNA lie to you you you you attack those fucking peanut. Butter filled pretzels. Like I attacked Frank Trigg at that relentless you will relentless I was relentless and it was at one point. When you ask for more about the hand that you have to pull who'll back you had one sticking out of your mouth like a little big I did and I was GONNA say no? Jimmy don't do. I was like I want to stop you. There was a help you they're hurting. You're saying me for myself. There was a pretzel in my my mouth and I went and reached for more. But I'm done eating them. They were not even that satisfying requested. The Bob don't leave them out anymore. Not again it's my problem album. I'm the weakling but I know I'm weak. Yeah Jimmy I didn't. That was not that was in a proud moment of yours. I didn't like CNN. And I've had a lot of shameful moments. It's like five hundred fifty one years of shame. This is this is in the top thousand. I looked over. I was going to hand this to you and I know what it's not. Some people will just listening to this but are more I pulled back you like this little young I really was. I was a fat pay with my mouth. Yeah you talk a little piggy. I sure did I pulled it away. But you're not you're in shape. I'm not in shape. I'm in shape for a pig. Now I want my mouth. It's delicious. It's delicious trust me. I said that when I was young Jimmy. Aren't they tasty math strong. You only have one. I put away this. I need something like that from my home. A Nice Jar. A heavy jar to put treats in willful. Burglars hit with the Heavy Jar. You could do that. You could use as a weapon. No no no no. He's trying to stop the BUNA. Hit The intro so good. We'll play twice. I'm emoting the card this weekend. From Raleigh. Dos Anjos roughhouse fighting Michael Kesse. And of course junior to Santos's fighting curtis blades really really as RDA some of his losses like his first of all nobody should be sleeping. Leeann Leeann Edwards Edwards is the most underrated guy in the hell man. I mean because of that backstage altercation with Massa that like yeah that hyped up Mas- with Dell even more like it brought in more like fame out everywhere and I duNNo. Some guys getting slept only on Edwards. He's GonNa be fighting though the former champ tyron woodley when they are all Arctic Twenty March twenty first and they said according to Leeann. We're there we're GonNa Strip would have his ranking because he wants to fight I guess he wants to fight tomorrow or COVINGTON and He said he didn't have to fight Liane Edwards number four. I think he should fight. Oh I do too going to. Of course I WANNA see how hungry tyron needs to get this back and 'cause he was such a dominant champion. Well every you know you're only as that's good as your last fight so people are looking at that last fight. Tomorrow's can awesome everybody's talking about tomorrow and he said that great fight with Colby. Yeah people forget how dominant tyrant was you know they talk about like him and GSP for the festival tweets ever and that type of talk and now it's almost like a tyrant who not I think he's dangerous L. Right right hand where ceus powerful explosive but Leon Edwards is hungry man. He looks hungry. I just pitch him just just what everybody. All this shit's going on. I could see him training. Yeah I mean he just looks if every time I hear them talking. It's very confident on the point of being cocky and I like it man. 'cause the guy's is back in that shit up we were just watching fight with RDA. Yup I think are added really great first round but w fairly dominant Edwards thing is how he's losing some sometimes he's getting out it. He's not like he's getting beat up. No even the fights he's losing he's not getting smashed. He's getting out appointed by getting taken taken down but then he's not even getting beaten up down he's getting back up most of the time but then the guy will get him out again or something you know. So he's like falling behind in points. You know else. I wonder if that's going to be frustrating. Him knowing that that's how key yes plays a pressure fighter hill. He strikes but it's usually usually just close that distance and then it just grind guy out a lot of ground and pound. You know good standing. He's not bad standing. But you know I think his preference is the do like he did the Diego just like smother. Even though it is true Diego did choose to shoot first but can I say what an interesting fight this is. What's that for? Rda To take because RDA's number five is a welterweight and says I believe unranked. How did this fight? Come about dying question. Obviously look you look at the top guys. He's not GonNa get who's been or Woodley who's fighting Edwards call a broken jaw Jorges probably going to fight Mike Connors or fight for the belt and if he wants to go down. I'm wondering why he is taking. That's a great question. Has he fought wonderboy or no has RDA for wonderboy. I think that'd be a very very interesting fight and I I get not. It's not all about rankings but wonder boys ranked higher unless he has something lined up. Did you would the voice. I HAVE NOT J- interesting you're not GONNA kick off. Did he sang it well. I love one. The boy is the nicest forgave. We Love Stephen right a bad motherfucker very great song. It's not that I know he doesn't WanNa see wonderboy singing but it goes like one do boo ooh. I don't know it's fucking weird. Because he he I swear yeah he walks out here. That are we allowed to. Yeah I think we should be able to play that thing in wonderboy. It's a little it's A. It's it's I think it's interesting you know. But he's such a great. Listen how do you not. One boy is like a music videos. Information de Today's nations are this song. Is this it. Yeah I take it back I like it yes I love it. What is this about I? I don't know but now that I've seen the video I like. It was just say nothing to do with Stephen Thompson. He took it the same way. Mickey Gault what do you Mickey. You're so fine was written from A. He just took it. Why am I lightheaded? Ginny again. I'll we have Raphael on the on the right now. I don't WanNA crying. Yeah all right. Let's do you guys gotta give me a couple second notice. Hello type guys. I'm sorry for gelling all good to see you buddy. How did the fight with key ESA come about considering these other guys who are who are ranked higher that might have been and Also interesting match ups for you. Yeah so we we took a look the rankings and So I'm trying to not not just stay to attached to their rankings anymore at all because back on the days that the Abidi find cloudy and will have no problems. These days. People trying to always find that guy high-ranking Ryo why are high in on them Dan so I'm just trying to you know just strictly active and making fights that makes sense to me and I think he is. He was this coming from like two good. Wins over condit in an EGO Sanchez. And it'll be a good guy from your so you that's great so you're looking at like you're not obsessed with rankings anymore. You just want good funt so because we know we took a look in the rankings and I I got I got that call to fight But he was in. I was just busy with movie and get Ready get stuff up done. Gets things saddle at home. Couldn't take their fight but he was book with vicinity Lewke right after that and so we just look at the ranking than everybody. Some guys are were injuries some other like high ranking them me but Murphy follow and And Leo Adler advise had. Just meet me in Coleman who's month so they'll option was better legal so and then I you know key has come on his name on the table. Avon took that fight now with some of these fights that you're you're losing you're not really getting beat up in you just getting out like pointed wanted like they take you down against the cage and you get back up without getting damage. But it's like it's like you have to catch up points to you know what I mean. 'cause even Edwards it was the blend of the take downs. I think that Kinda maybe got him ahead on some points. Now you fight Michael Kiassa. He's known for pressure and just looking to put you down. Is that kind of frustrating. Or you say I mean you will great neutralizing Kevin Lease take down. I love that but as a kind of styles make fights I just like all right now I gotta make sure I gotTa keep this guy from from. Just get me down and yet backup getting down that type of Shit. Yeah I think those bigger guys like WHO's Mon- Goldie Like Lee was like he was former in l.. A. Usually won't be that way simply ask he is so I don't think this site. He's taller than me but I don't think it'll be their size in shrank advantage. You know and I think we're going to be pretty even and he's not a wrastling. No not a puree he. He's GonNa Looking for submissions. And I think I've been trained a lot of ground Game Pizzas my background. And I think I have been tested submitting into. I like hearing that gets me excited. I remember her. The Neil Magny fight. WHO's a stud and who's also taller than you thought of the fight against all guys that trying to to out grapple me and I fight well again because I know he's GonNa be he's GonNa go try to go forward his aren't gonNA? I tried to stick me trying to stall the fight. You know. I won't make sure hit on the data. I'll make sure that Bush the pace he's going to look for the silver mission. He's GonNa give some open his fight with the Egos Sanchez thoughts on that one. Because I'll tell you ju Jitsu was on point not mentioned Semitic calls conduct with a one on guility Camara which was pretty slick. That was is leaking water so I have been training a lot of. I think like I got that a little bit from fights at turn a lot on the ground because they knew he takes it back. Well just like he is a can't give the back you you now I know is he got he got he take that back really well but I'll make sure I'll stay out of trouble. It's funny right. How some fighters like you know you cannot expose your back and then other fighters you just? Don't you know like when I was fighting. BJ Band. I'm like dude. I know I can't get this guy on my back when I was fighting Matt Hughes. I didn't really give a shit anyway. Back to you fucking former champion. What you've been in this game so long what's is it? Is it a goal. That's still drives. You like is not the money but the golden belt again or is it just the love of competition what still drives you to compete now. Love Compete you know like when I take a A big layoff like did from last fight. I mean like I stopped me. I see how much I love that thing. How much training and I leaves death data in our lives that I live a good life and I live a healthy life and you know this Saturday will be my forty three five in a fight number forty the former way in a former like ray champ already fought for the belt on this wall so of course they go there? What drive me? I'm trying not to Fox too much on the belt. I know like I need result and one step of the time and I think when when the Opportunity Com. I'll make sure we'll get ready. Jimmy this is one for me I gotta ask. I'm sorry I feel. You've got a very underrated ground game because you smoke people what your knees. Your kicks your punches launches. They sleep on your ground game. Sometimes when you're done fighting hope many years from now whatever it is are you going to think about doing straight up to two tournaments or a special or something like that. I interested in seeing it to be honest with you. Yeah that's something that I looked for. You know when I'm they'll fighting fighting in those hard to be completely I love. I love training. Get You you know after a couple of weeks. I'm training and stop picking up. Stop doing like really well with ghee. And I. I WANNA know couple big tournaments when I was four Out Than Brown belt back in Brazil won Moon House when I was purple belt so I was and then after I got in all black belt. There's talk training we give because of the MMA. That's something that I'm looking for in all like compete and give training and get get their mind busy the benefits of wearing and again you guys. If there's a fight coming up two months before I understand taking it off. Do you feel benefits to wear in the gay and to become a better just to play a lot. A Lot With Gig Young. You don't scramble as much as a Nogi you know you have to do. The right attack meek so. Last week I had my John last week I was training. We you know like I had the guys thinking off the top bar and I was with my key and I was allowed to use my grips. So it's given at different Luke in a different type of training and of course if you WANNA get had Good for mantos. You have to wear your g otherwise just going to scramble and scrambled position if you WanNa get good technique gotta put your you became a naturalized citizen about a month ago of the. US Yes congratulations. What was that process? Like yeah I be in leaving here for eight years and so when it came he had come with a work visa through yet and I I applied for my green card took like Five years with a green car and in Oh now we stabilize it here. USA opened the doors for me and for my family. And and I love this country and in all and my family love hit you. And that was a controversial opened. The dos fours in so I can approach to my kid's life a safer life and Mancilla so happy to accomplish that and The US passport uh-huh works you have to change your passport. Yeah so I still have the Brazilian passport when I go to Brazil. I use my Brazilian passport. But now what I WANNA blast right to resonator and American. I still haven't gotten my my my American passport yet but it will I walk lie. Once they get back from the fight. Do you go. Do you have to go to like because my friend comedian. Jim Jefferies. Just I I believe that you have to go like swearing in ceremony or is there something they expect. It's better to do. Yeah the oath of allegiance. Yeah I did that was that was a great great great ceremony. Love that makes you feel someday. It's you know it was a special moment for the whole family. Yeah and look at my kids in in all Daylight in no. I have a flashback. I'm on my mind so where I Bourne where I come from in now I born enough. I fail as it didn't have much for Turner in my life and in oh coming from where they came in. You know to give that to my kids you know like the American Citizenship Fan. You know the account trough the opportunities and so that was a great great moment for me. When you're in a fidelity you growing up in that atmosphere? There's a lot of drugs. There's a lot of crime this guy's trying to make money. How do you avoid that? That had avoid falling into that trap just to survive The Guy that took me to sheet to you know he was he he lived. It'd be across from me on the other side of the you know like very good France. He was one year older than me and when he was seventeen he went into drugs and felt like joined the cartel soft and he got killed with eighteen years old and that was the guy that brought me to shoot so and you know even that out I was going to. You know Middle School in first grade with these guys they they become a in all the the boss of the Vela's I I was just like still being there France but in all my mom is still live down on the place that that I warn my family's still there. Yeah but in all I still have a good relationship when go there. People respect me because because I was on the same environment but I never join any party. No I always cloak within the just just folks in. I'm doing the right things you know so when you go back you see your old friends and you're comfortable going back and you know that you're GonNa be okay totally you know people. Don't don't mess up with my family. They know they're my family family. And you know when I find people you know saw in all they do a big party for me there and they all watch my fight together. It's fun and also what do you think too because now that the one fight. I think that you weren't able to make was your fight with Connor. Do I think it was an injury. Now he's fighting fighting at welterweight is he. He's probably GONNA stay there. He's talking about going back down for me but I think he's in state Walter as long as he can. Is that something. You've thought of possibly getting a shot at your. Yeah Mail in all my one hundred percent of my Fox's ran now is on key Saturday by passing that I'm not trying to look passing data. uh-huh is that could be an opportunity. You know like we got close twice. I have This Saturday will be forty. Three five professional fights and I never pulled out due any injury just one time guest corner. I broke my food and you know as a fighter. Matt you know she happened right thank you. Can you know it. It's a combat sport. You know I got hurt and that she happened but you it could be and then we were scheduled fight. I heard we went to the tidal for the entering titled title. But now and then he broke the bus hit. Throw them in the dollar and the Buzz Nip. The things didn't happen so we got close twice at thank. He's on the radar and IPO COCO me. Gatekeeper on that division. have no problem with that. And if you want to join division I will be two outcome him. Well look good. Good luck against this is a great fight against a looking forward to seeing who you fight after Good luck with always good watching you but thanks appreciate it. Bank my pleasure. Thanks for having me. Congratulations that's good for you. Thank you I mean I like. Rda Yeah I really like. He's Jujitsu is underrated rated. You know what I mean this. Yeah I am too It'll be interesting to see how he handles him. You know I wanNA know who is going to be fighting soon What's his name again? Jimmy one didn't he just say he's in the Sky I don't know what are the words. Can we have the words I'd I'd rather we didn't Jimmy looking for a sorry one boy. Is it a fun. Say it I prefer to Jimmy. Listen so so we have different definitions of fun Jimmy. I'd just like you know it's funny. I really funny but I like to sing but yet you'll never find me at a Karaoke bar. You know Jimmy. Yeah Yeah Yeah. That's not my Jimmy. Do you likely star. Wars shirt organise star wars. I I like your stores compared to your singing. I love your store shirt compared to anything else I don't care you WanNa see my socks this ouch that'd be my wife when we're young look like it let us. That's Nice Matin his wife. That's a nice side. This one is my wife also but it's just a face that it goes babe. Where do you get them made? She knows I love. They got the made. No that's cool. I'M GONNA get pick me and ozzy made into a sock Ozzy Osbourne you love him. Of course. Do you missing music. You'll miss a man both not in a physical way but I just love him. That's trying to say you want to sleep with them. No it's weird man he heads off a doves and bats. Are you going to do. He's busy hungry. Go grab a snack into how hard healthy on the road for the Bike Junior. Let's get jd. Yes on now. He's fighting Curtis Blades. Is that always fighting. He is indeed curve blades. Yep Easy for anybody. No it's either. Jd US US former champ. Hello how are you yes. Sportmanship J. D. S.. What's up buddy? Guys how are you very good. How are you good to talk team? Fine now. Where where are you right now are you are you around? Raphael is because we just talked to him. It looks at the same background. I'm I'm mad at my room to run. Okay all right cool. I'm assuming man it's too cold here. Saw A man. It's hard to go out of their room here. Do you handle Dole a very warm weather place. Do you handle the cold badly Really like you know. Cold weather But Yeah it's not being dad that bad you know we're having good times here doesn't make a difference though I mean the lead up to the fight. Are you gonNa you you know whatever you gotTa do to prepare for your imagine. You'RE NOT GONNA be cutting whatever you gotta do to prepare. You can't go out and do it like you. Just gotTa stay in the hotel. Do you approach things differently. When you're in a place like that thing unlike say Vegas where you can go out and do whatever you want I think for me it's A? It's a little a little better because I don't lose any weight for my side and I don't need to wait for my fight and you know I'm around fifty to fifty two saw. I'm fine you know but I okay I I can imagine the guy that they have to cut way you know. They're in trouble for sure now now. Jd Asu. Last three fights verse Francis Derek Lewis and tied to Vasa. It's it's guys that are the big bangers dangerous strikers and usually the game the plan is upstairs now. You Fighting Curtis Blades whose he's dangerous. Stop but he. He's a dangerous grappler. Let's face it. He's looks to put the fight down. Is that how do you. How do you feel about that? Because I know you love standing and I know you're also jitsu black belt. So how what do you feel about fighting a guy. That's looking to put you down. Well I already already have experienced before you know and other guys Sir example. I think it's a their game plan are kind of the same but But I ask aalto. Good fights fight. You never know what's going to happen you know I'll be looking to the knockout in all four of the Hotan again. You know. That's what I love to do. They WANNA give for the people here in rally. You know I know that that likes to see good knockout. So I'm there to give one for them but I know you know this guy is is a tough guy and all he's going to be tried to take me down all the time but And if I have to digital Actually I don't think it's GonNa be that easy for him to take me down. I have I I have three good. Take Down Defense. But if he does you know we we're going to do if he gets to grapple. We're GONNA grab like you said you have wrassling I'm American top team right now and I feel good about that about that too. You know. It's of course if I have to pick what to do. I want to stand up and bang. You know I love boxing in that's my thing so but it's May we have done the same dad and the more experience again. I realized that I you know I have everything what it takes to to beat others guys. I'll be ready for for him you all. It wants to dig now long. I mean he's he's going verse a former champion in yourself so you know he's just licking his lips. Get ready for this fight. Super psyched thinking. This is the hugest name that he's fought so I mean. Does that give you extra motivation. See if he gets if he has me under his belt that puts him in line aligned for big things Oh yes or no. I used to say that every next fight is the most important fight of your career. And that's why always take this fight. You know it's a it's a very important find for me an all even especially actually the same thing for him and That's why I I'll be training very hard. You know to be ready for despite to be ready to to to win this fight on Saturday night and you know all respect my opponents you know like you guys know it and Yeah let's let's Jimmy. When I I heard now you are you a big fan of the rocky movies because you'll come out to the rocky song accurate accurate? Who doesn't you know we we all That that story you know it's actually. I love that story. It's amazing okay. I'll tell you right now. The first time I heard you come out to it. It was after back when I was fighting. He's he's becoming a veteran now so I'm like man that's that was. My rock is la more like rocky. I'm short and I'm Italian guy. Why is this big smiling Brazilian coming out to my rocky song? But I can't stay mad at that he's looking at you. Can't he's he's he's handsomer Helix Center. We both love rocky law squalls feeling after the first three though you gotta be honest franchise it took a dip in part for the Russian one was not a good speech at the end of the Russian one. The goal yeah anyways listen. He likened insulted. Rocky I apologize. I'm looking to fight this week. I am too and Francis you know obviously is it harder or easier to adjust after fi like Francis. It's like everybody gets caught. It was just one of those things you know. Is it one of those things things. That's difficult to come back from or is that kind of an easier one to shake off its man You know I know. Oh were Kinda what kind of tied I am. You know and I know who I am in is a fighter. I love what I do and Sometimes we we are not in the best day you know things are fighting is not I consider like eighty percent of five years mantle. You you know so you have a you have to give yourself positive on the in average situation. Of course you don't want to leave the negative results but a like it happens with media and all that time with Francis is a his he has a lot of power but But I think I was confident I at the beginning the five I felt I felt I felt very confident. Then I tried I that overhand right against him and that thing exposed me exposed me me too his his power and he's enjoyed the modern. I paid a big price but you know of course I have to prove that inside sidearm gone but for me. You know. It doesn't mean has he that he's better than you know he's saying he was saying many many things but one of the all of my goes right now is to have that rematch. Because men like I said I felt good in. I should stick to you my my game plan to my strategy and I didn't I expose myself in my strategy was to especially the first wrong to move a lot in throw some fast hands against him you know against him and keep myself like on not defense way but like more cautious for all. These are the first wrong off the ball. I could all have some fun and you sits eighty percent mental. Do The Times where it hasn't gone the way you wanted to go. Do you find. Have you gotten distracted or did you feel it before you walked into the fight. I don't not even mean necessarily with him just other times. Have you felt something was off before you walked in or is it usually something that will happen in the cage wall. It was in the cage. Actually I was kind of nervous because I knew nervous. Like like say Asians it's normal. The the match are not well. Heck Yeah saw I was coming to the fighting kind of neighbors but as soon as the fight started started you know I felt so good he can twice. I didn't do anything for those aches. And then I kicked him and he follows to the to the ground and then I punch him on. The badly in his is big is war. This fight is nine. You know so I felt too confident and then I soi hulk overhand rights. Because I saw a good distance for that and I didn't I should be measured the measuring the distance before with my job but I didn't I just throw their orga handwriting. I put a lot of power that in. Yeah that that was the moment my mind mistake. Because I I fell to Kaufman. You know I was expecting something much harder from him in. I didn't feel that so I was. I thought this is my moment and through the behind the ride expose myself. He joined the moment. Punch me punch me in malls out no along things up. You'd like very much your I love I love you no doubt rematch. I won a half my terrified with they stupid to so many many things to do this vision men in right now I have a very tough guy from me. My as my opponent in That's kind of feeling that I love to haul you know big challenge. So let's go good luck band. That's the main event this weekend in Raleigh yourself against Curtis plays. It's a really interesting fight and good luck and trying to have fun in Raleigh. I imagine you won't be staying offer a few days after the fight right. Stay warm buddy. Stay warm over there. Thank you guys. Take such a fraser. Very Nice Dude. Yeah you know. And that's GONNA be hell so if I liked curtis blades. I do too next episode Curtis Blades. Now who's GonNa Nice episode. Do you favor really quick. Press play in really quick for two seconds seconds. Excellent stop wait wait sorry to hear it one way or the other. Would you rather hear it from fucking Sin Atias de Jack Black and I forget the other really. Yeah yes Jack Black things so you basically basically just enjoying a Jack Black Song serious would you walk out to a Matthew mcconaughey number somebody with you any other words. Thank God right now. I'M GONNA learn. I have faith by Wednesday's episode. You should save it for for next week or next time. We have wonderful wonderful surprise. You want me to sing a classic Jimmy. I just `Camorra to man. I put his. Aw behind his back. I kept it there Intel. It snapped Jammie. I have no choice Jimmy. Listen that's a very bad so much fun what you do. I don't even think to my wife. Of course you don't want to you. That's wonderful. Lucky me I'm going to tell one day which is missing although wonderful Sava ask her to try to ask you to start seeing it home. Just get worried if I stopped wearing your face on my socks like I do it my wife will. I'll be disturbing wearing yours just to bug you so when you say I'll put my feet up. We'll see a picture menial let's take a break. I got thinking leaving. Hello we're back we're back. I just had to go potty. Jimmy Yeah we got Russell Peters coming on who is also promoting to what does he was on prime video January seventeenth. Okay to ported. It's called sounds very controversial. Not really we Russell toweling off. Hey Buddy how the shirtless Russell. I like it adds about to put on a hat and everything. Let's make this a freak show man. I'm taking my shirt thank you. I won't pay off now. Everybody you take yours topless show. I thought this was the topless show Matt always topless skin bottomless show. Sometimes well unless I'm here then this as as when I was talking about Matty said I love that Dinnie does. That's what he calls me the true trained with Enzo I trained with him once at a seminar training. But you know he's he's a hard guy. The lockdown to train with. You'll be like my brother anytime and I call him like I got somebody set up for you there. I agree with you great. Yeah he said next thing you know. He's an Abu Dhabi. He's not Russell. How did you get started with Brazilian? Jujitsu I wanNA know that so. I started Like Ninety seven and with Carlos Newton. Let me throw my hat on. Like totally shot. I loved Machado Chato so I started doing Japanese Jujitsu. Oh in the nineties A friend of a comic friend of mine was doing Jitsu when he was teaching me. Stuff But WHO's teaching all standing up. Yeah so it's all the exact same moves it camara a take flip guy right over you can do it guilty in in standing guillotine and all that stuff and and then I went and trained with Carlos Newton couple times back then. Pioneer pioneer one of Canada's first right one of the first guys on the scene and he was he was a wild my first time Russell in a UFC. Let's see my first ever fight. You have shown E. Carter. UFC thirty one is when Carlos new call US calls Newton. Yeah Carl sorry I just as name call us. Newton ended up winning the welterweight title verse Pat military-age via Bulldog uh-huh choke the first time I ever did a bulldog joke in the U. of C.. You know what I mean. I learned that was then. There was the double knockout with him and Matt Hughes Matt Hughes Yeah that that was insane eight. What do you think about that? He got screwed on that. I mean they have. That was insane was so so. Let's explain what's going on. So what happened is Carlos Newton Ford idea and Iraqi to absolutely but not no no. It's a little different but little but a Do you WanNa say what happened muscle. You've probably been so Carlos was choking out Matt Hughes and and if you see the footage you see every single muscle on Carlos. Carlos is back with a try back and never seen back that muscular in my life. Yeah and money any picked up by my matt picked him up and slammed him while Matt was being choked but Matt when when Carlos hit the ground the impact knocked out Carlos but matt had already. You've been knocked out. So in Matt hit the ground. He was already knocked out. So it's like a double. It should've been a double. Ko So he had him when he was choking him. It was in a a triangle choke with his legs so matt with the power on them and they were up against the cage so when he went down the the slam knocked out. Call us like Russell said but matt was out. He was out where he goes. What happened? I believe it was John McCarthy. Goes you want one. It certainly EXAC- oh it he does. He jumps up like you did something. So it's hysterical. But our calls was such a stud. He has actually two fights with Mr Hans. Yeah yes there was one in one. You one wondering you lost one comedian. Russell is at somebody I know is just guy from Toronto. WHO's not Doing anymore. Yeah he just Kinda just Kinda fell out he just retired. He learned Japanese and he wanted to become a doctor. Okay so stand up is one of those things he just stopped. OPT offer was doing for a little while. Hey you're on Amazon prime. I think the only other guy I know who's on Amazon prime is gaffe again so it seems to me now. I think Brian Callans on their two. Oh stake they're taking really big. COMEDIANS and Amazon prime is is doing. These stand up. Specials was called deported on January seventeenth. How did they convince you to do it? Because you pretty much. Have your choice of where you can go at your special well. They didn't really convinced me. It was kind of like I started the The whole netflixing looking at like I was the first guy to do the straight to Netflix. Deal Oh you are and yeah I was the guy remember came into your show to promote it back then got. I'm so stupid. I should've jumped on that stock bandwagon back. Then I was a little bit and they've been doing a great job with it but it's really crowded over there. Yup and I thought it was time move onto to go somewhere else and give it a shot and maybe get some more promotion. If there's fuel you guys is there are more likely to promote individual specials. Yeah I mean they're. They're not promoting guys bigger than me and so I'm like well. What are they gonNA do for me? Nothing really you you mean. Yeah Yeah are you on the road at all now yeah. I'm in Toronto Right now promoting it I was in Orlando last week and I did seven shows so so when you travel you Jujitsu win or no. Do you have different places you stop all you know I want to when I was in Orlando. I tried to find people who go train with. Listen I hit up John Jack. 'cause that's why with now John Jack told me to go hit up a guy named Gaudino and and then Gorgino was in Australia and then everybody else. I didn't know anybody else. I of course Sunday night on the on the Sunday night show like magic people come to the show and like Hey am at American top team. Gene I'm a Brazilian top team. I'm over here I'm over Machaca. Raise Jim what would you come roll with us. I'm like you tell me on the last day in the morning you ever get a fear. The of running jumping into class and being like I want to gotTa Strangle Russell. Well that's Bekwai John Jack. I like. We're the KNUCKLEHEADS. I don't WanNa go with the KNUCKLEHEADS. I just WANNA roll. Learn Jujitsu. Maybe maybe get tapped out in a nice way before the guys who've gone for you. I haven't haven't had that happen yet but I could see it happening for sure. And how did you get linked up with the Great John Jock Machado so I was. I stopped doing Jitsu like in two thousand. What happened was I choke the guy out on the street any any passed out and fell face first into the ground blew and all his teeth fell out? I thought I'd killed him when I just I I thought I was. I thought I was this evil master. And it's like I'm never doing this again. I have to. You have to just give a little more than that now. What he's telling me he was heckling Ashfield? Here's why it was bad because I was standing on the street looks three. AM in Toronto's twenty years ago and two guys jumped go back one guy jumped on my back and jumped on the side of me. Like grabbed me from the side and I just swung my body and the guy in the side end of in front of me and I put him in a guillotine is and and as soon as I locked guilty I knew I had it and I'm screaming. I got your mother fucker. I got you and I guess he. It wasn't now but then the guy in my back jumped off and ran around the front row. Slow that's that's that's me and clan and I'm like Oh shit. His friends are yours. Yeah they were just messing around but my brain was like attacked only to fall on his face. Yeah when I let go I. I didn't realize how long I had the token force I was like okay. That's enough. He was leaning on me. He was on his knees leaning on me. And I'm like I stepped aside and he just fell face person on the ground up. Oh ooh that'll teach them with those fucking band pranks all that gets bad branding and I just felt awful after an academy to grand by the guy new teeth. I you still fans. Yeah Yeah Yeah worked. All we're cool. He hates bring it up. And I'm like don't sneak up on me anymore. Nasty knows his fault. Yeah I mean it is but I mean I kind of odid on the stroke. I think but doesn't feel good Russell. Now you don't have to be some Jiu jitsu champion or mixed martial arts experts but doesn't doesn't feel good that you feel that you can handle yourself that you know what it's like to get out from underneath somebody or you can strangle. Somebody doesn't feel it's an amazing feeling like I mean boxed amateur for nine years so that was always my forward thinking and then and then when I that's not something you can just just do it fifty years old anymore you can just go punch people in the Senate and Jujitsu so quiet and peacefully just like hey here we go good night sites. Are you ever in Long Island New York it was I. You know it's funny as I was at the I was at the Westbury last year. I was thinking and I wanna hit up Matt. I WanNa hit up Matt Sarah and go traveling with them. Jimmy give him my number pure Ma'am all right. You'll be Comoro knee Russell. I'm not that guy you know you have a great three time. Well no listen mad. I'm a blue belt with three strikes. I'm nothing yet. Well I'm saying I'll give you my home but we'll have fun fun. What Buddy? What's happened to blue purple after Purple Purple Purple and then Brown and black? But it's all about the journeyman. It's such a good time. I'll I'll tell you russell when I say about my school's Jujitsu in general like people don't gotta train with me but I love that they train. That's what I always try to Jimmy. Drain Course Ju. Jitsu specifically Automo- slowest Jitsu. It really does empower you. A guy there could be somebody that's unathletic and it could let them be able to defend themselves and their family early and that's what I feel very strong about so I don't if I make another champion great but died. I love doing that day in my breathing is so bad because my sinuses. And I'm going the third to meet with a specialist. I'm GonNa get my surgery again soon so hopefully I can get my breathing. Situated Green Work will listen. I got bad breathing to Jimmy. I got a I got a broken nose for press thirty years from boxing and I didn't know it at the time breathing. I was get yelled at for breathing. Breathe I agree quieter. Well Jimmy's also got something else called excuses. I do have excuses Jimmy. I also suffer from the House and I just want to empower my my friend and I WANNA take but I'd run on a breath sometimes. I'm like Jesus Christ how would I do on a Jujitsu Matt. If I can't breathe just sitting here you know you don't know until you try you WanNa try I know Caitlyn's Kagan has been shaming. She's correct I seen her last night at Sarah J. J. a attacking people he did yes I did. She's looking great man. Yes take fights seriously. Caitlyn Kagan yes. Sorry listen what got you. You've been watching for how long since the beginning since. UFC Two because one was never available. So I've been watching since two and you hope I'm seeing your entire career unfolded even pride. I was watching you. That's so that's so crazy. Crazy never fought in pride but listen I went over there. I was watching it but I was watching over there. What is supposed to fight? The Guy got lit up in flames. That's a whole other story. The Guy Walked on a pyrotechnics. I told you that Gary Goodridge back in the day how is he doing. Okay that guy now listen to me. Thank God for Jitsu you gotta learn you know you. Don't WanNa keep you. I waited to end my career Russell to start throwing the sledgehammers before I do Jujitsu bum rush but had some nice hands on you to bless hands. I'm not hyping implicit heavy hands here. Italian you guys have hands. It's true I can't we now. I feel I can't wait to train what Russell. Yeah that's literally one of my goals during learned with the train with John Danaher. Great I can make that happens though Hickson. I would love the row with. I would love to learn to make myself that I hold. I don't give a shit. Why talk to Hicks in Hough on your little I got high Hickson looked up to him? Coming up was I. I went to a seminar. He did and and look he's teaching. The seminar comes around. Just lift your arm. Make sure you're doing your thing right and then at the end I take a picture and I put my arm around him. I I just pretend lift. My hip almost killed me Shit Russell. Yeah sure I have a smile. And they're gonNA hey and then he goes. I got and I was like. Oh sorry. Sorry he takes them. What we we had him on? I think we had Hanzel in studio and he was. That's right yes. Yeah he's the greatest that ever was where is he. He's in Cali California. I believe they. Do you have any gigs in New York. Are you going to be in New York at all not anytime soon. I think something offer came in. I am not sure if it's happening in July maybe joy. Hey have you. Here's a I do you know what's his name be be a lesser than his. Name is Do you know him from the Saudi Royal Family NBA NBA. I wouldn't say I know that's for sure I don't know now. I know who he is. Met Him if he if he was a good egger. No I'm mad at me was a nice guy. He was nice to me. But I mean you know. That's I mean everybody's GonNa be nice. I era when they meet you. My goal in life is to tour with Russell an open forum to dirty. I probably can't there's too many locations I would love that the my audience would be like What's going on right now? They probably wouldn't care for it but he just he flies you first the best gigs ever. You'd have to change your whole routine Jimmy. I know all I can too. I'm too old to change. You can't thing and then to me. It's disrespectful because Jimmy like a solid a-list headliner and he's a degenerate. That's a new splash Russell. Jujitsu questioin top player. God player your preference. I I I don't mind. Let's here's the funny thing about Jiu. Jitsu Matt Jimmy. When you talk about it sounds so gay Russell for a guy? That's a clean comic. He it can be certainly politically incorrect and get away with that choice. I love it you know. Here's my here's my game at solid the bottom player you. You're right to guard yeah. I'm I'm pretty good in the guard John. Jack made sure that he made my my guard game solid he mistake. 'CAUSE I I'm good with pressure on top. Yes he said I need to. I need to be better on the bottom. So He's been making me do bottom for the past year and now when people are on top of me I I can i. It's hard. It's hard to pass me. You're not gonNA pass me. I fucking like that. How often do you train when I'm home every day? All you do look at that. Were you go in the afternoon for private lessons classes I do both. I'll do essays available for private. I'll do it otherwise. Sit in the class. I don't care anymore. You don't mind I mean he's he's learning from one of the best ever John and I guess that's Malibu Los Angeles nizing as in Tarzana. I'll tell you you like spoiled now. Yeah you go anywhere else you you you learn from John. You'll learn from like one of the Machado brothers. I started with Hagan and then he gins. Trainings are too short and too infrequent. So then I I called he. Can I go listen. I need to do this more. Is it okay if I go to your brother. And here's a column that's also man and I'm so happy you're training raining and I'll tell you right now. Two things are going to be definite in the future one. We'll be training together and to don't you'll ever be touring together. Jimmy probably not I mean. Listen Nuno's maybe Jimmy find. God is luckily enough as act Jimmy. Don't find him he's it's not anywhere no I know I found shut the door in my face. I love it all right. Listen you're specialist. Russell Peters deported. It's it's on Amazon prime video as of January the seventeenth. So congratulations and I imagine you'll be in the clubs working out a new our and then back on the road in theaters again. I I'm I'm already on the road with working. I'm already working. Hey my act like you Jitsu. It'll get you to sleep in about twelve all right Russell. Pitas you talk anybody rolling man I love it I love thanks for having me guys in Jimmy and Matt Matt. It's a real honor to talk to you and Jimmy. It's always an honor honor to talk to you. Assume talking to you. Thank you take you up a nice guy. I feel like I know I feel like I. See what Bruce Buffer a lot like he legitimately early love to you know. I think he's friends at all the old school rappers like Mellie Mell and all those guys you know I I was gonNA say yeah. When you're in Long Island you could chicken chicken chicken check out? Good show Jimmy wanted to plugs. Yeah so sorry for the last eight seconds. I wish I had been in black forgetful stick where I could just make you forget that I just did that. Jimmy I apologize to you and I apologize to all of you have see on buildings oldest ears. We should apologize. Anybody who the IRS. Sorry about listen. I'm going to be in no Wilbur theatre on April the fourth. They've added a show April third foxwoods in Connecticut. It gets come see me. Do you know what I'm doing this for Jimmy. I ask you fucking what I tell you. Got Pictures of my wife is what I do. And then I send the pitches. You're so cute. She's stopping ugly ugly. There's nothing to do with anything but listen to me. January twenty fourth off live to be New York Comedy Club. I know what you're thinking what I'm going to be doing my new material. I don't have a theory. It's S. C. N.. Live live with my buddy Christian off Cape Mulligan. Comic rb three. I don't know if he's a comic. He's a funny guy. Listen Andrew Guyau how did you see what was their La- says Gee I repeat it. You're not going to say it. Listen to me. It's in the East village. Listen I don't have a good time why I'm going to be talking about stuff. Like Star Wars Jamie. Don't judge me because you might say to. What fucking fucking Pussy? But meanwhile opposite of a pussy dangerous man. 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UF 344: Urijah Faber, Bruce Buffer, and Sara McMann

UFC Unfiltered with Jim Norton and Matt Serra

1:11:54 hr | 1 year ago

UF 344: Urijah Faber, Bruce Buffer, and Sara McMann

"At the time I take that championship Amanda Order you will see their fees ways Joe. The data was always twenty eight. Look at me. Aw Aw the time drop. Oh we've got a lose lose bumper. They should have put me for saying that. But they should to put Bruce in the intro. He's on today thrown anybody under the bus when we said who forgot it Antonio like shook his three basically said me Sarah mcdan- and Ah we'll be calling in favor quality and shortly but before we do that we don't get we have fight announcements bat and they very rarely give them too so we're always happy. We knew we get charged Jones fighting not yet. No Oh no this is a UFC. I event in Raleigh North Carolina McGregor not connor okay. The main event is curtis blades. Verse J. D. S. Announcing No. No no no we. All we talked to Frankie Hagans Frankie Edgar. Komai cited did role. Yes take gotTa Savak. John McMahon against lean. Landsberg Jimmy. You gave me a look. Were you wanted a backhand. No I'm not telling you how to run the show I did did not Jimmy holdovers of all listen to me. I'm not too much of an Alpha. No when I'm wrong. I'm sorry you know you gave me a second you gave me. You did like Deniro. Did to fucking glasses. God gave me the fucking double-take. No here's what the double takes. Plus I was going to read Sarah Against Aline Landsberg but I looked at my paper and the paper says women's Bantamweight and we know that and I just didn't. I was a decision not to read the words. Women's bantamweight like I was talking to read that sounds to raise cyber banning gasoline. That was tation was wasn't you okay. Let's drum roll one more time for the rest fight. In a couple of fights three fights to announce okay. Now this is the second actually was abandoned way but it's breadth the Pike Johns. Tony Gravely all the PIKETTY. Yes who dividing okay. Yes listen what is what is that. That is January the twenty fifth. You see Raleigh Blades though Santos says the main San Hagan Edgar is the Co Main Sam McMahon Lena Landsberg also breadth the Pike Johns against. Tony Greatly. One more way did you see Lynn's who'd you say they don't Landsberg but isn't she fighting. Charming Man Oh. Yeah we're announcing it one more. You're going to fly with Alice Peres. That's exciting great fight fight. I liked that fight all right look. That's all in rally. All in Raleigh on January the twenty fifth those are three five three fights to announce and we're so bad at announcing not things 'cause matinee both get sidetracked so I wanted to do at the top of this show by the Likud you make it hotter here seventy-six is it really. Wow Man br you guys I mean. I don't understand how the situation down just personally think down like I don't know but I don't want I don't want in a bitch because I feel like lately like yeah. Let's get your your IRA. And you know what I'm going to be there when you're is fighting. You know excited about there. He is your favor you guys ready. Hey Buddy yes you rise a tour of your house. What does that cribs what we got? Ah Yeah like literally cribs with. How's your baby go? Oh my gosh. It's been good brother. I'm actually really about the jump in the car that's cool. We'll take a ride on the move right now. Where are you going Jim? All right yeah. It's thirty in the morning now. You just getting up now. I got up I ran. I ran to the JAM and get a ride back and now I'm going to spar ten thirty self is on the move voice. How's the sleeping schedule with the the little one is a different now or has been amazing? She's the best. Isn't guys state hydro clip hundred percent. And she's got Mwana the babysitter on right now. So much percent here it is. I love you county. Hear me too high. Do I look like a big baby. I I see is happy. That CALICO got a nice day. And that's a great so but I know I'm getting old. I noticed people. Sofas it's a nice couch took twenty minutes in front door yet. Excuse me my language. The little ones that are out there fatherhood Shimmy wants to know how it changed you. He didn't WanNa know that that's my I wanted to know. And it's been easy. Needed waited quite a long. What happened and he said he waited quite a long time? Oh now listen. You're not an old dad. You guys hear me out. Yeah everybody says it is a certain thing like you change your way. You look at things changes and everyone says you drink the Kool aid as soon as it happens that happen to you. Yeah absolutely. It's Kinda crazy because You know I was prepared to work really hard to change the diapers and carry the baby around everywhere. Her get up in the middle of the night. Do all the hard stuff. But it really just hasn't seemed hard logs just like I just look forward to. It seems I mean it's only been eight months but I feel like she's been here the whole time you know it's it's Kinda nuts it's true. Love Jimmy Really True Love when you hung your child in your arms. Yeah I don't think I'll ever do it. I'm fifty one now and I just I don't think I'll ever I liked kids in the in in brief spurts I just. I don't think I have good. Parental instincts so I never did that thing. Still Work Buddy. Well no but it hasn't worked at a long time. That's the thing getting done the Saxons I was twenty two but you can get in there and it is true. You can't use a ladle or scoop. There's something kind of the opposite us. Let it go right. Listen He loves blue. Choose eats pop some like skittles. I really do you ever mess around Rowan any Bluetooth. Let's get to the fight. He's got to get to the he's got to get to the gym. I you know you look so good against Ricky Simone I mean you will. I think you silence of a lot of people. How did you feel coming back before that fight? I mean obviously no one thinks they're going to get a first round knockout. Yeah you know all oh I can do is really the the preparation you now. It's you can't really control outcomes and unfortunately but but you can prepare what you put into things and so I just I over trained man I was doing the the overprepared To deliver an and it worked out for me. I feel like a lot of times. These guys you know especially the new age guys. Don't understand about you know the real grind and so I I just embraced the grind and and didn't really worry about what was going to happen in the fire. Is that if I feel comfortable if I put in the work that was it now before you had a little bit of a break. What was it a couple years adheres to two and a half years? Yeah now you came back versus a beast and Ricky Simone and he has a fucking kid and you did what you did you look. You never looked better. Do you think the two years just really just body and mind helped you just Just the rest rest everything come back stronger or yeah I I think so I think in a couple of things went into number one is You know two and a half years of of being out partying. Her or staying out of the gym is one thing but to two and a half years of mentoring teaching staying in good shape being. That's the small Little Cup of ever seen suppress okay. I don't know if it's an east coast do you guys have Espresso Expresso Queso. That is at least ten modules all your blasphemy. I want people to know that I'm not sipping coffee. Patrick giant. That's a real size because fuck in the end the thaw it looks kind of funny. Yeah I don't know if you've ever had an espresso but it's delicious. I'm drinking espresso out of this couple actress that he just wants to be cultured. It's so funny man. I was picking up my kids China this other dad. He's a cop you know. He's a typical guy and a little Espresso Cup but like a Little Cup like a go go. He's like Oh looks like you wanted a lot of coffee. Aw I don't WanNA fucking smack. I don't want to smack you you my friend that guy fucking just run at the traffic on the. I don't explain to them that it's espresso. What finally made you decide? I can't I don't WanNa be retired anymore. I mean some it must have been bugging you at one point like you missed it. I I think I think like I said Man The the whole timeout was was involved in in in the game. Still I was still still stand in great shape I started doing. Some of those submission grappling matches. That were you know. Get me fired up to compete a little bit and I just Kinda did a A PRO and con John of why should why shouldn't in the in the cons were tiny in the pros were massive and I just knew I could compete. I I was in the room. You know pushing the guy's only when I wanted to always grinding like on a on a camp or anything but I was doing match is jumping on occasion in and do do a little bit of sparring and Just doing really good. You know it's hard to to sit on the sidelines and seal opportunity to have a little bit of foam all you know. ESPN deal comes through like this has happened in that is happening in. I know my heart that I can still compete. And so I'm like you know go out I'm also doing a lot of business stuff. I'm I'm doing financial raises doing this and doing that. I'm like I just go out L.. Train art do something that I love. Nice little financial raise in makes the family proud and and it just sounded. Sounds like a good idea to me and it sounded like fun People talk about high left on a high note. I kind of left on a high note. Live leave on the highest snow possible. I was walking away with the belt or anything like that I feel I feel like there is still a little itching there for me to get in and so I just went with it man. It's funny too. I guess it's again as scientists better and the training gets better and we have people heal better. You look at guys like Korea Damian. Maya just want a big fight Anderson Silva there's a Lotta guys fighting at forty. It's not crazy to think of somebody fighting forty anymore. No not at all in my lifestyle has been from the the get go You know my hippie parents feed me all the best on the planet from the world and You know all anti aging stuff from Royal Jelly and Bee Pollen and garlic beet carrot juice and since I was growing up I mean that's what I was in so And if you look at guys is in there you can. You can understand US especially 'cause you're still mentoring guys if you can maintain your body but your skillset keeps getting better in your mindset is still there You know these old nine year old guys. It'd be the Battisti's on the planet. If their body were maintained that's eighteen dollars x one hundred percent and that's Loyd. TRT It's good that they fucking band that because you're gives you that you get you now you have the experience of an older guy and from going through it but now you got the not a younger guy. So it's a fucked fucking van that thing and also you never took a lot of damage it's not in your eyes lights have been putting out left and right and you're not that guy you never I mean body goes through damage getting ready for these things and whatever but it's not like you know with some guys where it's like all right you know. Maybe it's time you know. Yeah you know for for me stylistically with with my athletic style and the kind of the way I fight. I'd never took a ton of abuse. I mean you know the the the biggest abuse happens in the room when you're grinding hours hours and hours for days on end for years so I mean. Is there a little give over time. I'm sure when you're talking about You know as a forty year old guy in my built like I was when I was twenty two. Maybe not maybe a little bit slower. But I'm pretty frigging fast dill and have a stronger. I'm definitely a bigger guy than I used to be here. So it's it's it's It's kind of. It's kind of a a fine line like I've gained some things being the older fighter and maybe lost a couple of things but I can't point him out which is a good thing and no one else can pointing the amount so It's just common sense that maybe you're not as explosive. But you know when when you're really really fast and really really gifted at a young age you got some room to give a little bit. What do you think about the division? Two with guys coming down. aww Josie and Frankie Edgar. I'm surprised that we talked the other day about this. Frankie as guys get an old another coming down in which is just the opposite that I would expect. Uh You know it's it's it's exciting. I mean this is the most the most interesting this weight division has ever been. You got you know the upcoming guys like Al Jemaine and Peter Yawning Song. You Don in San Hagen and the list goes on a guys we probably haven't even heard of yet then you've got The current level guys like the cody Garbrandt and TJ's out for for cheating of course but the J. still got and then you got the guys that have been in the mix I mean Jose Aldo. I've always said I thought he's the pound for pound best fighter and twelve years undefeated and beating all these top level guys. And then you have Frankie Edgar Hey you're a legend of all legends and I'm coming out of retirement. It's like and this is just a rich way past right now. It's an exciting time to be a part of it. It in an exciting time to know that. I'm still on the Knicks. I mean knowing that I can go in a room with song. Who's twenty? One and cody. Garbrandt is twenty seven and I'm about to go sparring right now in in In forty five minutes I'll be punching those guys in the face and vice versa so it's the real gauge on life and and An exciting time for the way class. So this is all part of the story books man I want to ask you an Aldo. Question is obviously just an opinion opinion. Because you know you're not him but I like in your fight with him the fact that he was so affected with leg kicks. I mean. It's such a weapon of his and then it seems like it. Just Kinda stopped opt at one point Do you have any idea. What would you speculate that was for? Was that a decision. You think there was something he had hurt or just was looking for knockouts. You know I think I think what happened. Was I remember him doing an interview about him. Being the champion. But what would you like to improve on. He really wanted to improve on his boxing thing. I think he probably started focusing a little bit more time on that You know he may have had some bad experiences. When you're a guy that kicks that hard in that often he may have had broken bones or some sort of injuries? It can curb you from using that weapon as much. I know I for for a while there. I asked her. I broke my hands against Mike Brown. I wasn't able to to grapple undo some of the jokes that were my favorite like Dr shows would hurt in some of these other. Ah The jokes that I used to use a lot. I couldn't use as much And then I got away from somewhat you know So I don't know maybe what's the what's the reason why maybe guys are better than I am at check lake kicks. I just noticed that I was. I was just curious because sometimes you'll see guys that don't use the weapon anymore. I'm like was from getting taken down. You never know. He asked the guy but I i. It's a noticeable difference in his fighting style and Peter Yang. As do you now has looked at tremendous. This is a great fight. He's right number four. So you know beating him is is a is a really really Puts you much closer to a title rush hour. Show you one hundred percent. Yeah and you know this this whole decision process to take this fight was Me Just telling you guys is if I'm going to do this. I'm going to be in the neck. I want the top. I want to top dogs. Who Do you guys think the top dogs are? Who's GonNa get me closest to fight Zuhdi for Bill L. and Danna gave me a bunch of different options. Guys that are ranked much lower Any said you know you WANNA be entitled contention than this is is the guy and I'm like all right. Let's do it in an easing easing exciting guy. And I like the idea of you know if you look at George Foreman. I looked up. George Foreman's almonds wikipedia not too long ago and looked at the span of his career. Which is I think like twenty three twenty four years the guys that he fought at the beginning of his career career and the guys that he fought at the end of his career? That's got a span over fifty sixty years which is frigging awesome. If you take it or even longer you you know 'cause you you look at like passing the torch. I feel like peons the guy that just wants to fight. He's GonNa Fight. He's probably GONNA fight close to my age and then he'll L. Illinois fighting somebody who's GonNa fight close to close to my age and then You know my my like you know. Seven degrees of of Kevin Kevin Bacon or whatever. The thing is nuts. You know one hundred years of fighters which I love man. It's it's pretty impressive to see us a sportsmanlike unlike foremen in in In even like randy couture some of these guys. You know Dan Henderson. These guys that are doing massive massive massive long careers in and really the history books will show that. There's a commonality for fifty plus years on these fight careers riches nuts. It's a wild way of looking at it and and you're right form and did drive. The Great Guy Guided to to talk about because after the I know he fought after all he fought someone Jimmy a young guys they may be any lost and he took a retirement for many many years and then he came back and he's fighting Holyfield for the belt that I believe Levy loss on a decision I could be wrong such different style to the whole fucking show up in wild look like you is pitting guys at this palms I I remember Tommy Morrison I think he did yes he did yeah they gave it they gave it to Tommy Gun Tommy Gun ah the guy that was his big fight that he won the sad story time into gun yeah that is depressing. The library died he died he hid. Hov I know. But I wasn't sure if he died of a VAT or I'm not sure but now he died. I watched like a bunch of homemade documentaries. He tried to come back fight. It's a crazy. Go look at what we got. The podcast go look up Tommy Morrison and he got some breast implants and got. It was nuts. You GotTa go check that story out. You guys will get a kick out of some guy back in the day. The great white hope back in the day. Yeah and then He. Did it do rocky five Iraqi five years in rocky five you walk into the joke jobs outside my rings outside rocky five some movie good luck man against appear yard. Let me say that fight is five promoted right. I'm reading the fourteenth December the fourteen. Oh that's right you're on that incredible guard It's the guys you'll get there should be. I Serbia beating each other up you cowards. They've been holding up the wall. Let's see what they're doing. Better be getting shredded arrigo on Alpha male we we are. Let me see if we pick up a what's of gang who feel the energy and the place I like it. Well thanks three having me guys. I wish I could spend more time getting mixed it up anytime and good luck in. Hopefully we'll talk to you after the big about. I like that I mean listen. He's doesn't like your favorite and it's the people who know what it is. I I guess the West Coast. They don't but you're again he's he's he's pilot. He said he's probably drank all these vegetable juices and healthy things. It's not healthy things. Jimmy I was on my way here and I got milk chocolate macadamia treating yourself no. I'm treating ourselves. I'm not GonNa have any you say I small. Don't tell me you're not. Let's talk about it. Maybe you want to swear no Jimmy Bird. No I'm trying to to lose your weight but if if it was nuts I would say to me. But it's about Sir Jimmy it's macadamia nuts in his so tasty. There's nothing worse than somebody chewing on air. I hated we'll watch say you're going to get a button. You put your cough button matters. Won't you take on the fight. Matt what's your take kind of know you hit the button. I eat my eggs on the on the radio in the morning. 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UFC CONTOUR from Cox has all your favorites all in one place and with the contour remote you can use your voice to fund them on live TV on demand and streaming APPs like netflix prime video and more seat Cox Dot Com for details so we have Sarah McMahon and Bruce buffer coming up. Hold on Bruce Above roosted stand up this by the way you're not cutting this out this is going on the show Bruce Buffer that stand. I'll let me look at this show. Bravo Sam Tripoli's Kripa leaves very funny Hint clips very funny kate. Quigley's very funny Adam hunters properties. Great all honey hold on. I've never seen Eddie Bravo stand. I'm GONNA GUESS WHO's not funny. I think you're going to be incorrect. Bruce has a real appreciation. Who Hello Armory? Is this thing everybody every every everybody you know everybody. It's time to laugh. Maybe he's just hosting is again chocolate. He no way. What is this already happened or no? He's hosting stinging it happens. I can't wait to hear about his list. Get put up when we have any video of the video. I WANNA Zebra. I'm already laughing. I'm already laugher laughing as made like carrot top maybe. He's a prop comic. I wonder if he needs Komo. Knock what do I bet versus. Good I know I bet you. He's not France Russia. Set you then Russell Martin. He's not he's not because Russell Peters would tell them not to do stand I disagree. I think I would support. WHO Say I hope we have Bruno? How how his Bruce? I'm crying man. You guys fuck I can hear Matt doing your podcast at the same time as ours. No kidding I would never interfere. Russa greatness I literally would howl I. I don't think I've seen you without a suit jacket in five years. He looks like Bruce Bruce Bruce Wayne Jacket. We'll get you. Listen when the light hits the Airman I gotTa Change and get out there and do business. You know what I'm saying. Speed of doing business. Is this now. Wait hold on. WHO's a picture of on the cosby next to the it's time who is that you and who joins your words? Yeah that's my brother Brian in my mom and my dad and me family photo okay. The cartoon right behind the music a superhero. That's the character that they put into my online gaming my online slot machine that was released around the world in October. So that's the character that's in the machine that does all the slot machines. Jimmy loves slots and that DR or no poster. Is that an original post fold. It's all looks original. Yeah no it is original. Because I'm a big collector of vintage movie posters and you know when you guys are out here in La. Let's get together dinner. Come on over and I'll show you some stuff but I would love vintage movie. Posters Pre nineteen One thousand nine hundred seventy all way back to the thirties. Like it's a wonderful life creature creature from the Black Lagoon. I pretty much got all the original James Bond posters and that is the original. You have this one that I got rid of this metropolis. It was ugly so I threw it out. Well you green lights you throughout metropolis throughout literally three quarters of a million dollars can't tell you what kind of idiot I am. I thought it that's something to do with Superman. It sounds like thank you. Everybody metropolis it. Does that sound. You actually a really spent a painting right film. That was wavy the all time. It was made back in the thirties. And isn't that like that is the Holy Grail of movie. Posters Kirk Hammett from. METALLICA is a big collector. Movie Paraphernalia movie posters horror film stuff and he said that is the. That's the hardest one to get that one The original mummy. Mommy is another one. That is huge. Of course. Fry Anything Horror Frankenstein. The WOLFMAN Wolfman I've got Frankenstein Have King Kong anything. Anything that's horror is worth more money than anything. It goes up in value like. There's no tomorrow incredible investments. You put them behind. I see you have blue lights like you tell. You have museum glass because there's a blue. It's a blue tinge of light on the poster behind you which means that you use museum glass. Yeah absolutely resumed glass because as ice. It might edge when I have my beach house. I learned a bad lesson there. I frame some really expensive posters but because the sun they faded within two years you um broke my heart so when you frame a poster you gotta get the UV everything just protect your investment. You know I mean a little jealous in his background. He has such cool stuff. We have two things on our wall Jack Shit not that fits their. I can't even put my little world's greatest dad in these little shitty little squares and myself I self and Jimmy and not out Hebrews. Well you know why when you're not happy about things in life what do you do gentlemen you change them. I it could happen now. This is amazing zing. Now listen we just got word about. Are you emceeing. Like a open mic night open mic. Doing comedy what is going on. They don't tell us yet. Wait I'm going to go okay. Listen Jim knows and Aww told you Matt but I've been a huge fan of stand up comedy for years. Okay now I I've lived in California's in Nineteen seventy-two Mitzi shore opened up the comedy store. I think it was in seventy six. I've been going to the comedy. Store since nineteen seventy six. Go to the comedy store in Westwood David. Letterman was the host every night during in the week and I got to see like nineteen year old. Jim Eighteen year old. Jim Carey Andrew Dice Clay when he was sleeping on Mitzi. Shore's Couch Robin Williams Richard. Pryor you name Jim that come in and do their. I think I've I've just had the beauty of seeing everybody on late. Farming Sam Kennison back in those days. Oh Kennison you name it. Yeah absolutely and I would stay for double shows and it was a great date night because listen girls love to do most more than anything. They love to laugh and comedian's definitely can add to your date night you know so it was a great date night. I literally go to the comedy stores twice a week so I've always been frustrated that I would love to do. Stand up comedy. I am not a comedian by any standards but I can be a comic host so what I decided to do is create the. It's time comedy night with my partner. And you know I'm Jim Probably Sam Tripoli I do I like semi lot. Yeah Yeah Great Guy So we put together the first time comedy night November six and the laugh factory just took it right away. They grabbed it so we had a show. I had Sam on all right. Only Hinchcliffe was on Adam. Hunter was on. Hey Yeah I thought that you will be doing the comedy and that threw me off. I did I did I. Did some comedy did an opening bid I work with SAM did an opening bid. How did I feel a lot of my wheelhouse but at Wor at people laugh? I'm like they're laughing. I had faith Holyfield. They liked me. Listen when I saw that I was like yeah I can see that do. Here's why here's why I figured I said I think you would probably make is having a lot of comedian friends now just because you announce things doesn't mean that you're going to be a good comic homage but the reality is you're comfortable in front of people. Yeah and when you're able to it. Sounds like a small thing. But you're doing intros you'll take one look at the thing and you'll and you'll read the intro intro. You remember the name you know how to pronounce the name Rolette Shit so you at least have the ability to look at something quickly. Remember it and say in front of a large group of people the way you intend to say in front of a large large group of people so you have performance ability and performance experience. That would definitely not hurt doing. I want to hear about the Bait. Thank you Jim. Bit is is this. What kind of bid is it you know what is one of the things about comedy is like all of us? I have more stories about life than I can remember right and and Jim part of it is telling stories and the comedic side of things. Whether it's my travels my dating life the experiences I've had so I put it together and I know that that was the first time timeout and the next time I'm going to be much more comfortable and what I do. Add to the night is is that when the comics come out. I you know go into the phone with and come out announcer buffer and in and do the big announcement forum bringing him onto the stage and that's part of the entertainment of the night short flowing but I do open up with like five minutes next time with maybe ten minutes. Let me get it. Fine Tuned Gentlemen and then we'll get it done but jim if you're in town I would love to be on the show and Matt. You're probably one of the most naturally funny guys ever met my life. I don't know why you don't do standup comedy. I listen I had one bit. I used I used it about Adrian being a bitch. That's my my one bit and I don't have anything else. I I respect it too much to shame it by going on stage and just being asked I saved that the here. Okay so let me copy every time through this show rice shitty shitty comedy. Bruce did you tape it for yourself. Get A go pro. That's my one bit of advice for anybody. Doing stand up. Get A go pro not for release for your own self and tape it and watch it make yourself watch it Jim. Let me tell you something. And that is the best advice and you know where that advice was given to me some twenty five years ago when I started announcing my brother Michael buffer the legendary great integration announcer of all time. We all know Michael Michael Right. So I'm as manager been managing for almost thirty years. And when I started on this thing I said Michael. DMZ Advice. I did not want to copy my brother. I wanted to develop my own style. Awry would have quit. I gave myself two years to develop my own style or I would've quit announcing so because I didn't want to be Frank Sinatra Junior spifer. He told me what you just said and I tell us every listening. That's out there. The hardest thing you can do is watch yourself on video and be honest with yourself. That is the best teacher there is so yes yes I got some video. Yes I got the audio yes I need some work and I'll perfect it. Okay that's fair. When is your next one that you doing I have a meeting with Sam this week. I'd like to get it to her. It's once every month or two months and then eventually take it out on the road for a Friday night. You know when does not in town doing his big shows Pick a city and and try it out the night before or a UFC. So I figured the mid mid December at worst case scenario mid January and we'll have the next show called me they want. They want me to schedule another show as soon as so I can but I want to do it. Right A.. Jimmy Yeah you remember a time that Bruce Buffer beat the shit afraid trigon and elevator. No what what. What are you serious? He always brings up the time. I knocked out frank trigg enough of that but braves out. I didn't knock well. They had to break it up in Dana White was in that elevator. Wasn't he was in the elevator. You see we shouldn't I I hate to to you. You tell the story better than anybody mad I somebody told me. I didn't know what it tells you the story and you tell but this is the deal. Dana there's no deal Bruce Bruce is not a guy to Brig Bruce's gentleman yes he is and he's a very nice guy but do not Jimmy. Oh this is a warning. Do not mistake that's smile. We're GONNA smile there it. Yes don't mistake that smile and the fact that he's well groomed that he cannot handle himself or stick up for himself he was in an elevator. I don't know how many people were there but I know Dana White was in there and frank trigg was in there and something happened now. Listen he's GonNa correct me if I'm going to