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Ooh, the best. College. She graduated. Parents paid the cell was parked the only way the car joke, girl brands, pin SE. The big fan. Of course, he made most girls. Brewed HA's which you all everyone and welcome to another episode in pros and Joe's. I am Frank Kaminsky. You're loyal. Great, fantastic hosts ready to lead these guys. This is all been. For anyone that's listening released yesterday crit great episode, great content, you worst zoning episode, the history of podcasts. So damn she shot today. This is going. So yeah, Alex standing by guys is thirty door. Alex said, sorry about the cyber sound Carly yesterday, especially Benadryl other. Yeah, especially bad and met David, who's making a strong comeback. I may say. I need to let the listeners know though I may be making some sniffles cost and or sneezes because this is my flu game of a podcast, but we can't. We can't not put something out after that fucking holocaust of episode yesterday. So I'm dirty as ever ready to go Boyce Dylan here. I would also like to apologize to everyone in his podcast except for Alex for the sound that we had to hear last episode for those of you that did hear it was an abomination. We should have put it out. We wanted to get it out there because we spent a lot of time recording it, putting it together and they wanna talk go to waste and in an hour. We're like this thing. Ask them down. I'm not sorry for anything. My mom called and she was like, what are you doing? Putting that out there? So yeah, I think it should be like, you know how volume or is he who's not apposite twenty-five pros and Joe's is that that shall not be listened to or else. I mean. In good terms. It was dog shit. At its best. It was dog shit as. Was dog shit. Actually it's unfathomable how bad it was. Onto cannot do it. It's the worst. It was the worst pretty far as a society from technological advancements that would happen yesterday should never happen unless we're in like Ghana or something like that doing even there. It's not an excuse. I listened to it this morning. I just went into straight denial. I was like nuts. Okay. All right. No, no. We spent a long time. We've got an hour and a half of good content. Some some interesting stuff, but no, no, couldn't do it. So I didn't. I didn't listen to it and I had practiced this morning. So I go into practice and I thinking we, we put a podcast out and get back from, but from practice and I have tax on my phone, ninety tax from our group about how awful it sounded. I was thinking to myself how bad can actually be on there. This is what Alex. I was like, oh my God. That's the worst thing I've ever heard in my sounded worse than honestly, like there was such a feeling of embarrassment that came over my body that we actually someone in this group green lit that hep so Toco out. I mean, if we had to do it like we had to release it and we decided that it wasn't worth it. You know. You know, we made an agreement I was at, I was at work when I listened to it, and I, I had it played from like my work computer. 'cause that's usually just what I do kinda just play when nobody's there, whatever I over and like make a coffee, and I come back to my desk and I literally come back with my coffee my hand, and I thought my computer was like on fire virus that infected this one. One coming out. Someone actually tweeted at us saying, I don't know what's going on or if my phone is broken, but I can't really hear what's going on when Alex is speaking. But there are, I will say this. Frank note sale. I think it would have sounded better if we took a stream and I spoken to taint. And you try to listen a hundred yards away of what I was saying. It was bad. I think we're cutting aerobic audio. An idea of how bad it was, but it was prophetic on even want to do that. Yeah, I don't wanna do that because they're gonna be listening to a normal podcast. And then the next things that come up. What it was like. We could like be sued for what we put out. Harmful damages. Barstool could cancel contract with something in the closet. Says you John shit audio like that. So we should have said, we should've said that you record it while outside on the beach during hurricane Florence, that would have been believable. That's actually not a bad idea, deli down that accept it wouldn't have sounded that awful. I shit you not it is. It is laughable yet. Yeah, I don't really have. Are you guys doing? Fantastic. Great. Is ranked at a boxing workout. He was flexing in the mayor's for little while. Yes, he worked out. I will say, this guy's my body looks great right now. I am exuding sex from from his own hand. We'll talk about that later. Why would we talk about that later? It's not going to be the Frank. It's his balls, Alex. He might have a better body than you now. Oh way without question. I have a better body than now texting two girls right now. Well, that's true too. But I'll better body than you all the working out in the world talked up faced. And you ready for the kill shot, ready. You ready for the kill shot. Don't drop it on them. All the genetics in that world won't fix that little shrimp in your pants. That was covered. I a million times I'm grow or not shower. Okay, that's a that's a scientific fact. What if I've seen it grown. Oh boy. We do have a brother brother brother per staff firsthand I hand now, I don't think I've ever seen a grown. I never saw my my smash. Had a big nuts that go with. Alex feel like that's a perfect time to tell your story. I honestly, I don't. I story. I think you'd have some regrets. Yeah, you probably would say the episode for when we know we're having we Alaska has been great. Let's save forty five because the game winning shot. We'll open up after that. So yeah, that works for me. So I got a pretty interesting story. It's amazing, actually curious to see what your take on Cam Oranje skills. All right. So yesterday I went out to Joliet Illinois with my mother of apartments. Don't you've been there before? How would you create those apartments? Out of out of out of ten. Two and a half. Yeah, there's there's a dump depends on if the electric cities working. Ulcers at seeping seeping in from the from the ceiling. The houses from breaking bad am I kind of on the right track. It's very close. The first time I ever went there by victims somebody and I open up the oven and there was a fried chicken that was in there for months. They fried chicken in the oven. From. Millet moly Willie all these ads sort of flying off chicken. I, if the person alive or I surely win my brands at like my plane out impotent. Great now not be smells like that happened to me when I smelled Dorset shoes wants. That actually happened to me when I smelled my own show. And I decided yesterday that I should actually finally looking for new job come detective because I, I saw a solvent face. Okay, let's hear Bartman. So you're like homes to only that yesterday and. They're broken into the vacant department that I just a victim person from or robotic victim. The actually end up believing result, but go there and someone broken the window, broke drywall in the closet, and then a couple screens. And that was it broken parts to break some drywall break by a couple of shorter. So there's a lot of Sanford break into like a vacant apartments. This isn't a crappy s. neighborhood a little bit investigation. Look at the the drywall. There was like replanted around the whole, and I determined that there was some the person that broke me apartment broke in there, and then crack the drywall, took their drugs in money out of the wall that they had plastered in their harmony your years or days or months before. So like the woman Ozark in that particular odor. Like the person l. I this, what I thought through the person that we were victim, he skipped town. Yeah, he's he's, why would he leave before taking his money or drugs out? So there's probably somebody that might that our folks rented to like years before he even visited by the police done that before. The. Thought it for sale sign and went out there and got their money back. So. I think someone else broke in and stole it. I think the apprentice renter when they got a good by the cost, less money it or many drugs in the wall and did want to do in front of the cops. And then when we aptitude instruc- when they started for for rent signs so that the apartment is empty broken, got their cashback drugs, whatever which might my one follow up question my action. I only question to this whole story is really what what I'm taking away from this. Is that your parents sublet basically at crackdown. They make a hundred dollars a month cash flow on. The tax write off. It's a bunch of all my parents people. They everything that we buy for has this they? Oh yeah. It's clash right off for the IRS doesn't listen to this. That here out mom, dad, I just made that up. That's the story of the day. So did you ever think that maybe the person's skipped town because they felt as though their life was in danger, and then they came back to see the mom and dad had locked the doors and but for sale, rents put a sign up and then broke into the wall to get their emergency funds out and drugs could be the same. I've ever thought about that. Yeah. So if you're a detective, you gotta consider all angles. They broke into the walls to try to hide there and live there for the rest of their lives. And that's why you're not a detective? Nope, that's why our basketball player you are. You are not active over there specter gadget, I am great detective. I, you'd be terrible Frank. You can't hide behind anything. If you're like trailing the case, the bandit. The fragrant or Robert. Thank it'd be like so dispatching I dunno, St. mastery, seventy Paul seventy one in three thousand people. There's ten guys in the state that are that tall. Two are dead three or too old to be able to hold that off. So. Okay. Landscape in jail. The other one has an alibi, your your life is criminal would not be very Frank. You Hernandez who's. Who's got caught. Not for. Took them like twelve hours them. They were at his house before the guy was dead. Yeah, unfortunate. Situation is such a bummer door. You said you had a little story for us, right? Oh, no. Oh, no. Like it was more of a topic, but it was something as I was perusing, Twitter. Food away. Basically, everybody knows the main Space Jam to, right? Yes, yes. My biggest question about this movie is obviously it starring LeBron James and you know the whole Mike secret sauce kind of thing. I wanted to get your guys take on what LeBron secret sauce is gonna be, you know, I can't picture LeBron and a spaceship like like an Apollo thirteen that you're talking about? No, no, no, no, no filling this Space Jam not base outer-space Buckingham for not doing. They're jamming him any animated film. They're, they're jamming him into a spaceship because he's too large to be in Space. Jam. I don't know where your brain's going right now, but I don't think you've ever seen Space Jam. I thought it was. They were going to outer space to make sweet jams, jellies dude, I love some good. No. Yes. Jeez, Mike secret sauce place. H h. Oh, do you know what it's going to be Venus such? Oh yeah, it'll be why wine. Plot twist, Bugs Bunny is hammered party is fucked up. I don't know what's going on with the secret sauce is going to just said it was going to be wine because drinks a lot of wine. So everyone's just going to get hammered and have a grand old time. What's going to happen into a pretzel. I don't know how that makes. The joke is gone far over space out of your head man over your head, like just it's space jammed right out of there. About the learning tunes anymore, like anybody at all? No, that's the thing. It's not gonna work because back in the day it was like Michael Jordan's doing movie with Bugs Bunny. Mike, those characters now it's like, all right, who's he gonna do with family guy? I think I make a great star. Probably look like that big white guy. What I'm saying. People people used to make about that all the time. Shawn Bradley? Yeah, Frank. All you have to do is stand there and look stupid. You already got that down. Yeah, I have that. I have that marketing guy was dull. I have that market. I have a completely cornered stand there and look stupid on space sham. What can you do? I will say this. It's gonna put a cloud or NBA see issue. Everyone's talking about it. It's knowing. I'm already annoyed. Should I make my formal pitch? Yes. Make your pages to why you can be on its beige. So sup everybody on the Space Jam board. My name's Franken ski. I play basketball for a living. I'm seven feet tall. I looked kind of dumb, not that great looking not appealing to the eye. So I can make a great monster because I'm a good ad Ingle he single ugly. I'm single ugly. He knows one of the guys from from the old Kath, lots of personality love to hang out with my friends, talking like that one to go out of space, Agata podcast, I can can promote it. Ooh, we should. We should podcast from outer space. Jesus, the shark higher. Podcast from outer space, man who about bad over Fru. If that's my stars voice, that's the dumb guy from the. The sound ABC should pass me the ball. I don't know. I don't wanna go back to four on. Good. Hear that. Yeah, I heard it. Was that good? It was bad. You sound like a Gorgan? Should I send Mike from from last? I wish the audio yesterday. But was not was, was it good? We're gonna improve. What am I areas of improvement. In a way you have to sound a little smarter. But that's the thing. The one I'm trying out for the dumb one. I think you'd scare people with the dumbness there. Little full box rock. You is not remember Space Jam the same way. I did to be honest with you. I love the movie spatial. I've seen it always through one time when I was a kid. Never realize that's villa sucks. I feel probably washed it with you at least fifteen times, no way sitting joint. We watched the movie alive grown up yet on the. NBA chessman. Who would bass players in that one? Again, I don't even remember I know live the main basketball player. The polls Dennis Rodman. Blade for Randy Brown gum repair serving him Charles Barkley's any right. Oh, dude, I got. I got it. You're talking about Bill Cartwright. Well, all Richard Cartwright Katcha. Gotcha. Scottie Pippen right? Scottie Scottie I played basketball, it's got he wants. It was awesome. Do you play with the guy with Scotty, Pippin, once twice, three times. Did you do pretty well? I actually gave him a bounce pass in transition any rim stuffed himself and fell on his back. So that was, I'm not kidding. That was a crazy thing to witness, just like knowing that it's like a battle legend. You just gave her bounce passing room stuff. The shit out himself. I'm making this up. I was just like, oh, you, okay. And he was just like, yeah, I'll get it next time. Did it make the raw footage for Space Jam too? I guarantee you if there was full of that and it was posted online, it would have gone viral for sure. Do you think if they had like smartphones and cameras back in the day, they would be like there'd be as much media uproar as there is about shit nowadays, like with the stuff like people back down, you're actually have a really good answer to your question door. It's really, I don't know how to know. Like to Wade Boggs drink seventy beers on a flight cross country urban legend today for a game. There's no way. Pharm confer confirmed for Wade Boggs. Yeah. Okay. Sasquatch is confirmed fact as well. Let's get away bogged on the puck kits. Discuss then Frank challenge you that I can drink seventy beers. You're right. You just drink white. Team claw. They need to make a commercial and Jim Carey, the. Law and like, have you know little loss by anything. Jim Carrey does anymore guy's lost fucking Maher. He's dedicated his life to just making cartoons of Donald Trump and ripping on them. That's all. All it takes. He's a strange strength up. El-agha like him. He's still pretty smart guy like, yeah, I do. I do. Though because it's like you live this whole life. Try to become a stamp comedian actor. Finally achieved that goal as well as possible for a long time if for very long time actress like many years, and then it now is like, well, what I do now I'm gonna live for. What would you something there hasn't been a comedy like liar, liar or any of the main comedies. Big comedies that he did anything like them since he's since he's been done. Only he can do that name a creek EROs. This year, I can name one that was released a couple years ago sausage party. Door. That Moore, Frank, you cannot deny that movie made me laugh. Okay, I'll say that, but that is not cry. Do you know what the audience of that movie is? It was fifth graders who watch it in the basement when their mom and dad weren't home because they weren't allowed to watch rated r movies. You telling me, Dylan, you're not gonna laugh. When you see a philosopher fucking bagel at the end of the movie, I think it depends on hot. The bagel was. I'd read it, but you gotta demographic wrong. It's bunch of stone college kids going to see a movie, that's that's what it was born to stone college. Kids endorse sets sober as a goat sitting there happen issue. Money on sober or not sober, Frank is sitting here displeased. I'm not despised. I just I was thinking of philophical a little bagel. It's a, it's a tough mental picture. Take down. We want you all think of that and welcome to the opposite. Welcome to pros Joe's. Today, we welcome on Chris Pfaff goes by the name drama. He's the CEO of young reckless, and you might remember him from his days on Robin big and robbed your fantasy factory two shows was a huge fan of in in young and reckless, which I'm also a big fan of, and he does his own podcast called short story long. That's correct. So from from one podcast or to another, welcome onto our show. Yeah, thanks for having me, man. I'm really excited. Thanks for wearing the year and I'm excited to get into it. So. So let's start it off with with kind of the backstory of young and reckless. I remember the first time I was introduced to it was at the draft on twenty fifteen, which I was given a a nice care package full of young and reckless gear that I still wear till this day. So I just wanna wanna know like what's the back story on it and and kind of how you got into the ethnic apparel arena. Yeah. So what really happened? I mean, you know, it is beloved story, short version, no pun intended. Is. You know, I was doing this. This reality TV. We did reality TV for about nine years that really, you know, took off bigger than we ever imagined. And I think what happened was self. I cousin, rob everyone involved. Like, you know, we never looked at our selves as celebrities or wanting to like up our celebrity in order to get paid right. We really looked at ourselves as entrepreneurs at, you know, wanted to be business guys. So with this exploded, it just kind of like the way that it hit us was like douse the time. If you're ever gonna do anything in your life at business, you should try to launch it now, you know, because we had all these eyeballs. We had this basic argument opportunity, and so you know, I was super hungry to kinda create something real and get out of reality TV land. And I saw my opportunity. So my idea was reckless than it was to do a a clothing line and it's super. Street wear inspired because I grew up in Akron, Ohio, where you can't get any of the cool brands or any of the cool stuff and moved to LA and saw all these cool street where brands, you know the people wait in line for just kind of really connect with. And so my goal was to create a brand that could still connect with the consumer and you really felt, you know, a little a little special when you put it all or powered when you put it on, but it was a vailable to everyone available at the malls and available everywhere. This was before econ. Ecommerce was so big. And so you know, distribution was really something that you kind controlled and you decided who got to wear your stuff. I was. I wanted everyone to be able to wear it, and so I launched it at, you know, even kind of connecting it back to you getting at the draft. It's like I realized that I had kinda gift in a curse on my hands. I had this massive platform being a hit reality show that I could integrate it into a coup. Cool way, but also it was really likely that it would be looked at as you know, some guy from a reality shows Birch at that had no legs. That was nothing that was going to last very long. So I instantly hired it a couple of guys to help me with marketing NFC and we just did everything under the sun to make sure that you know the brand really felt like the new cool brand dot just reality. TV merchant. So we went to every draft and we had every athlete and celebrity that we could get our hands come by the office, take photos in it and posted online, and that's really, you know how it launched and that just really took off kinda created a life of its own a little bit. So would you say that marketing on television was the way to get it off the ground? Or was that was you had the idea for the brand for a long time behind the scenes, and then you just use that as a platform. Yes. So it was a combination of a lot of things, and it was a combination of I was always interested in clothing. And when I came out here and sort of seeing all these guys before we started doing TV, I thought this would be so cool. You know, rob invested in a brand called rogue status, and that was the t shirts with all the guns all over. And I would go hang out with the guy who started it name Johan, and I just thought it was so cool like a clothing line and you kind of build this little culture around it and everyone reps it and it's, you know, it just felt really cool to me. So I was always kinda drawn to it. And the show was like my moment of saying, if I'm ever gonna do this, I have to do it now and then also tied into that was we launched it on the show, but it didn't really work too well right away. Like we got it allowed us to get some big orders at the beginning because I was pretty well known at the time, and I would go down to all the meetings that I would, you know, get the buyers to to buy some and put it in the stores, and it really helps. Us with some leverage there, but it wasn't enough like as soon as the show went off the air, that was the second season. As soon as the second season went off the air, the shirt stopped selling, and we were in the back of the store on the floor. And I remember I would go visit stores to try to see how we were looking at. It was not looking good. So it was that we kicked into overdrive with all of our campaigns and tracking down influencers and doing all this different stuff. So it was kind of a perfect storm of all these different things really, to be honest. Like, I thought the name young reckless was cool. I wanted to create sort of movement. You know vibe to this thing and empower young people to go do what they can do and be their best selves. But that also caught traction more than I think that I plan for. And there's a lot of people that wear it today because they think that were young reckless is cool, and they have no idea who I am. So it was a bit of a perfect storm of all those things that and it worked. So what was what was the big. Barrier then to get it out there to those influencers because I'm sure there's people contact that you have ideas that would say, hey, you perfectly aligned with our brand in your perfect forest, but you never know who's also interested in in you in your brand. So what was the biggest barrier getting those influencers to be like, hey, this is awesome. I'd love to represent this brand. So there was a few. So you know, I think the first one was in the beginning. We were looked at as kind of corny or cheesy, and there was a lot of people that we would go to that just wouldn't support a lot of brands. We try to do collaborations with the just would support it because they weren't sure if it was just a quick money grab or what it really was. So we had to fight through that. I think you have to fight through. We had to fight through the ego issues of keep in mind like, I'm on this reality show that's a hit. And so you know, I'm getting recognized into all that stuff. But at the same time, I'm still begging people to wear t shirts. Getting shutdown left and right, and having to not let that affect you know by self esteem and like just power through to the next one to the next one event. You know, Lastly, I think is just competition like everyone at this is still to this day, but everyone that you go to, you know, they've they've probably Ben approached by someone and they're probably considering or already locked into another deal. And so you're constantly battling with these other companies and trying to make better deals or creative deals in different stuff to try to convince people to, you know, to come with you instead of instead of to someone else. Yeah. I mean, 'cause I get the opportunity to to get a lot of free stuff which is which is great. I love it. Yeah, in their stuff that goes to the back of the closet and stuff that I'll actually wear. And young reckless was was cool. I just felt like it was very cool in in hip in modern and it was its own brand in itself that honestly, I have no fashion sense whatsoever. He's colorblind and I'm also partially colorblind. So I don't. I don't understand what like things go together, but I know how something makes me feel when I put it on and I feel like you are brand made me feel cool. Like, yeah, I don't know how to describe it. That's the best compliment that you could possibly give me because not only is that the hardest thing to do, but it's that's what I fought for the most. You know, you could hire designers and you can figure out production and how to make things affordable. I mean, all those things you can do, but but really trying to figure out how to make someone feel cool when they put it on is like that's the holy grail. You know, there was years probably the first two or three years where. It wasn't that. And you know, you kinda warrant if you were a big big fan of what we were doing. But other than that, like I would walk through trade shows with all these other street where guys, all that stuff get terrible, looks and feedback and really terrible things because it wasn't cool when people thought I went and did like a licensing deal. And I was just trying to make quick money at all this different stuff. And it took some some fighting to get there. But, but yeah, that means a lot. I'm glad. I'm glad I was introduced to your brand. I remember Frank where one of the shirts and I think I don't know where we went, but it was definitely like. I know explain it. We went somewhere where he was wearing one of the shirts, whereas kind of like like a sunset in the background and like a girl like leather pants. Do you know what I'm talking on the shirt. I remember that any posted on Instagram and people are just like, wait, what's on your shirt? The girl in the background. I don't know exactly what it was like a girl mother Panthers, it's like it just might refer. It was one of the shirts, Frank Worrell the time and always stuck out this year. Yeah, I love that man. And I think that we kinda like from a graphic design perspective and other things that we did was we consciously sat down and said, look, if we're gonna make an impact here, we gotta be like loud at. If you look at the original young reckless shirts, they are so obnoxious and that was really planned almost. I can almost remember it from the show used to watch the show a lot. I can almost remember it. It was like the big spray painted t shirts that's said reckless. I remember that too. So obnoxious and the way that we thought about it was like when one person wears our shirt, we want them to also be sort of a billboard to everyone else that they see that day. We want people to say, hey, what's that sure that we want, you know? So we really kind of kept that loud, like, you know, attention grabbing design as much as we could instill. There's a huge element of that in what we do today, so. So going back to the show I got, I got a couple of questions because, like I said, I used to watch the show all the time. Yeah. I mean, you guys used to do some of the most outrageous stuff. So what was it? What was it like being kinda yourselves? But also just like filming, I, I understand. Like you're part of your part of a reality TV show. What's that like? Do you feel like you have to go out there and be more outrageous than you would normally be? Or was it as you guys being yourselves in happen to be filmed doing it? Yeah. I mean, you know, here's the best way. I noted describe it as like obviously there was a massive element of the real us like intertwine into every storyline and every episode. You know, nothing was scripted at, so we would just kind of put ourselves in these crazy situations have been see how it played out at at just, you know, sort of ham it up for the camera, but and also another thing is l. a. lot of the episodes, shockingly a large amount of the episodes would be based around like something real. That was happening like we did a whole episode about. Be becoming a man dime and this male Bela bottle character at really all that came from that. Legitimately just came from eagling and getting in biz aligned, and I was going to get invisible line and I was joking with rob one day off camera up. Again, going to be a fan died like to be a tent over yourself bucket, hot joking. And he was like, oh my God, that's an episode. And then he took it and blew it way out of the water. And then I took it because, oh, now we have an MTV production budget. So instead of at biz allied up, just gonna use that money to get veneers and it just blew way out of the thing ended up being one of the most well-known episodes and so, but it came from something real. So the answer to your question is like. It was heavily our own personalities, but we were very, very aware that we were trying to make a hit show. And so we'd kinda come up with these outlandish situations because we knew it'd be good content and we'd go shoot it, and we just have the type of our lives, but don't get me wrong. Like after a day of getting attacked by sharks are running from bowls, like we were definitely happy to be done and like just go home and chill out. I I can imagine. So was it like you just show where there was there ever an element of surprise for you? Like you show up for an episode and they have something planned for you that you had? No idea was going to happen yet for me, in particular, I was the only one. And so what happened was, you know, I kind of character and the dynamic of how I fit into the group started as me being like this nineteen year old guy from Ohio who didn't know what the hell was going on, and that kind of kept throughout the whole show. Oh, you know, even as Robin, I became more like friends and a lot closer. I would still kinda play up that side of it because I knew that that was how it was funny like it was funny for rob to be so ridiculous. Big black to be there right along with them. And then me to be kind of like the scared, you know, not sure about anything care too, and that's what made us all three work so well together. So. With me in order to protect by real reactions in my real everything, they wouldn't tell me a lot of times with big things were happening. And I remember I started to get mad like towards the last, imagine how mad that would make me. Yeah, because the last like four or five seasons when I started to, you know, kinda work my way up in the show. I was like guys, like I can act at this point, but you gotta tell like, I can't live life walking into this place every day, not knowing what's around the corner, you know? And so they started telling me, but I will say they always told me. Even through the whole pro, you've been on Robin big. They always told me if it was something like embarrassing when it was like my twenty first birthday shaved, my head to look like. What's the guy from the Simpsons. Man, the old dude from the ball guy from the Simpsons. No, the old the evil Mr. burns Mr. birds. So they gave me the Mr. burns haircut for my twenty. Parties, but they told me they were like, hey, would you be down to do this? And I was like, yeah, that's Larry. And so we went, did it and then like, you know, getting attacked by a bowl and all the big stuff. Obviously they cleared it with everyone months before, but there were still times when you'd walk in and rob was like shooting burritos out of a t-shirt gun or something, and like they just wanted everyone to legitimately be like what the hell is going on. So those things they would keep a secret were there times where it went just too far and you're like, all right, I'm done. I'm out. It was only one time there was. There was only one time at they never, you know, they've never aired it because I think the clips of it, but MTV wouldn't let them air it because it was too easy to recreate and it was back in time with kids were hurting themselves trying to recreate jackass jackass days. Yes, yes. And so what happened was I walked upstairs at Rob's old house and they were just messing around. A lot of times these little scenes would come from just like messing around and big black was trying to squeeze into the dog's cage and obviously squeeze into the caves. And so they were like, see if you can fit course, I can fit and so is squeezed in like, you know, you're in a little ball at the moment. I got it locked the door. They shut the door lock the end that they just instinctually just making TV just trying to be like get good content. They pick me up, pull me out to the side of the pool, and I was yelling like you'll by phone baba. And I thought there was Bill. Way that they were going to do it. And in the middle of yelling, they pushed me into the pool and it was an, I went down and I remember hitting the bottom of the pool, and I was like, oh my God, I, you can't unlock a dog cage from the inside. And so I was like, holy, like these are probably up there like we got him and I didn't take a breath like I was ready for this was trying to it was it was the only moment went up like holy crap, like I'm gonna die. Like I thought it was going to die like this dunks way to die. And I. I started trying to kick the case. Nothing would work. And like I remember the omit. I knew like I can't hold my breath any longer. I've got to take a full breath a. water. This is insane. Big black head pulled me up just above the water line, and I just took this huge breath of water. And I was like, holy cow guys that you really like. I get it. We're trying to make good content here, but you almost. I almost died at a dog. That's reality. TV right there. There you go and then sure enough. It was a great clip and and they couldn't use it because it was, you know, whatever the legal with pass it was, was there a lot? Was there a lot of examples of that? Like where you couldn't own something because you were afraid of people recreating it. So God only happened that happened, I would say semi often in the beginning like it rob big because it was went jackass was really on fire at also we were kind of due to that world. So. So we would just do stuff and it would get shut down. Like I remember one time, rob just simply wanted to skate off of his roof into the pool and like there was a huge issue with that because a kid can recreate it. So once we got it like fantasy factory and we became used to how this stuff works, we would. We would make sure that we cleared it with them before we did it. And so there wasn't really much of that once fantasy factory started. So. So would you say that's the most ridiculous thing that's ever happened. Well, I mean it was just the closest to an accidental like drowning, but I would say like ridiculous. There's so many. I mean for me, the absolute I would say scariest was probably getting attacked by a bowl. I just stand in the middle of a bowl, rain. Let all come rugby over like you have no idea what's going to happen and it's the most Shane feeling ever. How do you even get yourself because you you said earlier there was like a process to to approve that. How do you get yourself mentally prepared to be like, oh, I'm gonna go in just let a bowl spring after me. How does understand how you get yourself, like all the jackass and everything, how you guy get yourself mentally prepared to do those things. So here's how it went in my head. They called me probably four months before they said, hey, we want to do this episode, but it would end with you getting hit by a bowl in a bowl ring, would you do it? And here's what you always go, ROY. Wrong is four months out. All you think about is how great that clip is going be any like, yeah, yeah, I'd do it and then you don't really think about it. And then it comes to like the week of and they're like, hey, you know, this week is the bull episode. You're like, oh my God at. So you know, of course they hype it up. They bring in the bowl to the fantasy factory, putting the cage, let you look at it. You know how it's gonna hurt you and they had the jackass guys come in and it was Chris Pontius and Knoxville, and Pontius came to me like off camera and was like, I just want to let you know that of all the things we've ever done the bull stuff is the scariest stuff. So good luck, but I feel your pain and I was like, what the hell like you guys have done? Everything advise this is. Yeah, thank you so much. And so anyway, getting to the point you get out there. I mean, I remember driving to the office that morning to meet up 'cause we would we would drive down to the office. We would meet up in the SUV that we all. Always drove at that. We would drive that to the location, and I just remember being scared out of my mind and you get there and it's real, and it's just all you can do is, you know, it's going to make a really good clip. You know that forever in life, you'll be able to say, you got hit by a bowl, and it will be filth, and it will be on TV show. You'll get all the glory and all the love, and you have to just turn your brain off and just do it. You know. And it's really, I kinda initially learned that skill growing upstate boarding, but I really refined it in TV and I still use it to this day and it's like something you know you should do, and you know is going to be good at the end but seems like an absolute nightmare. You just develop the skill of completely checking out and just doing what needs to be done. And that's, that's what would happen every time and you can show your kids and grandkids. Yes, so cool. Because now, I mean, don't get me wrong down whatever. I have like good friends or like, you know, like anytime I call got hip. Got hit by bowl. Episode about up line. This is years later, whatever. I still get to pull up a perfectly produced episode of beginning ran down by a bowl and like that is up. So glad I did it now, you know. Did you did you deal with any physical trauma afterwards, like. No injuries were were pretty low. Shockingly like I know it was the scariest thing of my life. Second was getting shot out of a cannon, which is shockingly scary, but it was. I actually remember. I actually remember seeing that yet that I mean, I'll tell you that one too, but that one was I- glowingly scary but but no, I didn't. Nothing happened like it just kicked me around. I will say like it bear rushed my back and completely knocked the wind out of me as if like Mike Tyson punch me the chest. It was craziest feeling and and whatever. But no, there was no. There was never any real physical injuries except for one time. My brother on kind of a freak accident. My brother fell off a skateboard being towed by motorcycling fractured one of his vertebrae, but that was literally the only the only accident. I think he's elated incident. That was the isolated freak incident. And luckily it was like, you know, it was one of the knock threatening neck bone. So it was like fracturing collarbone, but we, we, we, we kept pretty somehow. We have boycotted a lot of danger. That's pretty crazy and changing subjects a little bit. How do you feel you said you're from Akron, right. How do you feel about LeBron following you from Akron LA. Well, you know, wish he would stop copying me. Take my talents to LA like now, you know. You know, the prince of Akron is has moved Bill, but I l. jokes aside, I I personally excited like this is what else say. I realize I'm almost glad he went to Miami because it made his return to Cleveland so big in the to win a championship. And if I know what it does for that city. I mean, my parents took his newborn babies photos like they have a photo in their photography studio of LeBron and savannah at his first baby. Like in the corny, like high school yearbook photo. Maybe my cousin did the electricity in his first house, like it affects when he came back. Everyone was celebrating like, I don't even know what to compare it to. They were just out driving around just to be around. It affects the economy. It affects everything and for him to win a championship and do all that was great and to come to LA it's like, man, I don't know. I just don't expect him to. To sit in Akron forever and just try to squeeze out championships with a terrible team. It's like obviously he's taken everything to the next level and now I live in LA. So selfishly, I to watch games now. So you would say that him leaving for the second time is a lot less hurtful and a lot less, you know, like yet, I think like don't even away it went down, right? Like making it to the finals multiple times, try his best to like squeeze out a win with a terrible team. It's like, I don't even think anyone in Akron was mad like I didn't see any jerseys burning or any, you know, protests or anything like that. I think they were all like, look, man. I would do it too if I could go ahead and get on outta here and not only that, but he's following your path in reality TV as well. Yeah, he's producing everything this. His barbershop show. I saw that he's doing a show with like like it has to do with Ben Simmons series Simmons, I believe, yeah, he's just killing. I mean, I just think his like where he's going to go from year, like even outside. A basketball is gonna be say, he's going to be around LA for a long time, even like even after his career happy to have when you can literally like go over to ultimate friends of eaten over it Brentwood or wherever. And little brownies walking around and going to see movies like they're just they're out here, eight people now they're probably recording him trying to Duncan stuff and getting on sportscenter and all that as well. Absolutely. All the above. Welcome to LA. Well, thanks, man. We really appreciate you coming on. Hopefully hopefully you can become Charlotte, Hornets man now to. Yeah, really, really appreciate you joining us though. That was really great. Thanks for. Thanks for coming on, man. Appreciate it. Thanks, great. Take care. Thanks. Thanks. All right. So now it's time for our favorite segment of the show are Joe down Joan. Don't Joe all the way down. So the question for our Joe down, Joe. About the question for our Joe down is going to be what qualities in a woman is a red flag for potential wife. And the reason why this is going to be our question for the Joe down. Because if you blew past episodes, Frank is not saying he's getting desperate, but he's in a search for potential wife. He thinks that that's a some stability he needs in his life. And yeah, he opened up to us about it, which is really interesting, and I'm going to ask him Frank. Do you have any updates on the search for the wife slash love life. I'm not ready to settle first of all, you're gonna to give you guys. The best analogy. I think I've ever thought of four francs current predicament. So we all went to Catholic high school back in the day. And you know when g Joseph and Mary who somewhat Wanda pregnant without getting the snow. Hostage were trying to find a place to have the papers they went. You know, they were in a little a little town called Jerusalem, which they worry about him, but our Bethlehem, excuse Bethlehem, Jerusalem potato potato fame shit, but innkeeper innkeeper just was taken people and left and right. There's all sorts of agency anybody can come in and that's kind of where Frank that there's a phone to rooms that are wide open long as you're willing to pay the rent. Do think of this analogy before this? No. Now, if I were calling Mary and Joseph were denied entrance into the ended said, settled for spam. Yeah, that's what happens when you go into soul-crushing debt, Alex. So you know, that's just a word. What happened with that was a painful, painful experience, Mary. I just gotta say, guys, this is a fantastic update. Really good. Yeah. No, we're, we're gang. So Frank you go on. This is this, is you? Well, I'm bored. All right. So we went to Nashville. If you listen to our awful quality audio episode, you would know. But if you did quite on like Alex. And so with that being said, we went to Nashville, I found out a lot of things about myself. First of all. Bachelorette parties. Make me happy and joining in on a bachelorette party makes me even happier. So that makes it harder to look for a potential wife. When you go to Nashville and you look at one bachelorette party and you instantly feel, hey, maybe I don't need a wife, but on Monday, there was a big feeling of loneliness emptiness. There's just a big crater of dark, deep sadness, inside of my soul, Jesus hose. It's not being filled with the gentle, tender love and care of another woman for those two weeks that you start dating, and then it's filled with hate and rage. It's not filled with hate and rage don't get, it's filled with ignorance. Yes, I statement is a very demeaning self pleasure in by Franken. I don't. I don't ignore women after I fall in love for about a month out of hatred or mean-spiritedness. I just generally get this feeling of, I'm sorry, you're done to be fair. I think women in this day and age when you start dating, they just they never wanna stop talking like it's like you have to tax them every five minutes. It's like, hey, if I don't take you for four hours, it's okay. It's okay if I don't before days, then you can worry a little. I'm old fashioned like to talk on the phone. I don't wanna text you all day. That's the way to do more fast and that I don't like types that are calling all I just meeting be there. Yes, also you there and that's a I'm even old old old fashioned in that. I prefer to just send him letters that are delivered by pigeons. So probably why I haven't found four. Four of the SaaS. Exactly. You must have been polaroid to see that thing. I'm, I'm a microscope. I'm still looking and the girls and everybody who Emin women the the girls and females, and everybody who's reached out via social media. I believe I said in the episode exactly what I was looking for in a woman and you can't just say, oh, I don't mean this requirement, but I'm perfect for, you know, you don't meet a requirement. You fail the test. Like I need to go five for like there's about ten requirements and I gave you five. I need to go five for five on those one. So I could come short come a little bit short on the other ones like like door sets that I'm pretty sure the woman that you're looking for that that fits your attributes of height, genetics brains, social media no'social never say no social media post all the time. She is hacking wood somewhere in mount Chile, low. Area. Core. I just made that up. Sounds like. From natural LeBron. No, no, that that's from naked for you. Get the cash. She. So that is actually where the girl that you're looking for is. So you better grab your acts, get some boots on a winter jacket. I'm not open to the ideal of anyone there. Good luck. What does that mean that make the real top now? I think door welcome to the podcast. You're not open to the ideal of a person? No, I'm not open to the idea of just anyone like I have my requirements and for me mentally the way my brain works, they have to be checked off. They have to be only one ever has, and she's under the sink. And made a past. An inside job for listening. Yeah, try to figure it out what just that. So present a good chance. You're will. Thanks regular jokes. He's never steered me wrong. Lonely at night. Just again, she doesn't say anything that annoys. Yeah, she can't talk. Frank honest to God. I think like the next time we're out in Charlotte and even help we even do through all star weekend. I'll set it up at just like bar or something like that, and we'll have like a talent show for no, no, no, I don't wanna be that because like I've said, I think this boy, I don't remember if I said my girl is in a library somewhere right now. She's in a library. She's reading her. We've already stabbed, but you don't go to libraries. She's reading her books on how not to be crazy, but to be crazy at the same time, she studying up on the art of psychopathic nece so she can't suppress it. Yeah, and me and her are cheese fresh off of her athletic practice or workout or whatever she is. She's sitting there all six foot blond. You're looking for a college girl? No, no, no. You don't have to be in college. You go to a library? Well, she's fresh off of her athletics meeting where she's at the farmer's market Saturday morning. Do you go to the farmer's market. Do you want me to go to the farmer's market look? No, no, I need. This is something I have to find myself. So you're gonna find them. Out the public service announcement, your wife needed want it want. Kid won a couple of them. Dad wants to be grandpa, and it ain't happening for my sister's anytime soon. So good. I'm gonna have to be the one to spread the family seed. The only one that can spread in like they said, Lord of the rings me back on the menu. Salted pork. So if that's the case, my red flag for a Joe down. Oh yeah. My read my number one red flag for a potential suitor of mine is that they need to have self awareness. If you come up to me and tell me, you are, oh, I'm not what you're looking for, but I'm perfect for you. Well, Nope, pretty. Pretty contradictory there. Is that a word contradictory? Yes. Oh word. I'm the words if you are not aware of yourself, if you don't take a step back, look at yourself and go, this is what I am. Take a step back. Check yourself. Yes, better. Check yourself before you raggedy wreck yourself now. Smooth. Yeah. If you don't have the self-awareness, I'm sorry, you are the weakest link. Good. And how do you officially know that and can check that box. I can do it. How long does that take? It takes a couple of weeks at least of hanging out. Ten minutes, ten minutes. All right. I wanna hear Alex's potential qualities. Ooh. Ooh. This is red flags. Well, in the last episode I said what I said in the last one, we're about this one. Said that. Girls that say that their ex-boyfriends all. So excessive excess become is a big red flag to me. It's like it just like hooking up with yet. They weren't of SAS. They didn't like that much. They just they like the idea with what if girl says, that's you, but her ex boyfriend really is obsessed with her ruining her life. Actually talk long enough. They keep saying like how obsessed with them. So I do know what you're talking about. I wanna rip on a too much. I do know what you're talking about. Hate when girls talk about a guy being of such with them and it's like, no, no. What happens is you lead him on and then you stop answering exactly what you do. Oakland through it. And then all of a sudden he said, twenty five cents a reply. You give them hope. He's obsessed. You give them hope the pope and then you take it away. No, he can't do that. The end of the day, I don't think what women realize is very, very simple creatures when it down to it speaks yourself. There's not. Going head another red flags. Well. Okay. And don't mention this one before where like you. You hook up with girls doesn't that year goal the way you kiss them or whatever. And they say, I never do this ever. I said nothing to you and all of a sudden you're kissing me. It's like girl. That. Dios the time. So that's like I don't care if you do it all the time. I don't. I don't care at all. Out it was candy on Halloween. Do you know what that is when a girl says that to you? It's her saying to you that she thinks you're stupid? Yeah. I feel like saying to you that she actually does do that. I'll time. Yeah, but but but she's not trying to use reverse psychology on you like that. She wants you to believe like your special and that that's you hit the nail, right. That's what it is like. And when they do that, they treat you like your special Ed and I don't like that. So the first time I've treated like that before. Highschool used, fuck them up all the time. So, well, Alex proved under spelling episode of a challenge. Hugh turtle members guy not a. Before we go to set, can you spell the word challenge? C. h. a. l.. E. n. g.. Are you going to the mall? Circle gets the square. All right. Two u. t. red flags. Number one, critically important to me and you know, potentially trying to find a future wife. Number one red flag. She cannot be. And, and that's pretty self explanatory. We are. We are not. I don't think we need to dive. That makes plenty of sense. That makes. I don't have a lot of rules, but that is a doctoral could see at one point have been a man. That he's hot segue into my number two Dylan's. So you're putting me on the spot to think of more creative ones? Hot, honestly, if a girl doesn't like sports or something like that that that's just a no fly zone for me. That's kinda like, you know, you can't fly into Russian airspace crew Americans. What are you gonna talk about if she doesn't like sports so wing, he's like, I, I, I don't really know allowed other Chit outside of like my work sports, and then I don't know. I just think of random ship that comes off the top of my head and she's definitely not going to get dead. She doesn't like sports. Here's the thing I can live without my love. Replace it with a completely different category of something that I have no clue about. Like I'm an expert in sports. I know everything that's ever happened like in sports in North American history, ask the teacher, something else. We can't talk about sports, so that's my two cents. All right. Ken burns Jesus. More actually, I know quite a bit about, so yeah, I'm pretty simple guys. I'm not really looking to rule out that many of the population, for being honest. Most people have that. Yeah, figure I need to keep the standards low to keep the odds. Very, very high fish went dynamite. Exactly. Yes. Barrel. How about you. That being said, the first pretty girl that looks doors way at a bar and pounds of Bud Light with him. Doors why we have liftoff boys not blacked out by them. No chances door is already packed up by the time. It gets to the bar zero. I can't even remember the last time two o'clock in the morning, but actually. Pretty like your bonds. Does yours. My mind Brown is those things turned straight black walking. The thing I'm kinda like Franko is puts it this way, whereas like doors, very loyal, he's like, oh, puppy dog. He gets lost. Always come home or gets close or close unless he ends up at a Korean restaurant in which they're calling us and saying, your friend is here or sleeps on the person's couch that lives above the apartment will just got an amber alert on my phone. Yeah, that wasn't ideal. I really forget my point what I was what I was going to, but no, I got it. I just get so excited whenever we go out whenever altogether do anything that I, I tend to step on the gas like Mario Andretti at the Indy five hundred traffic first place. Probably pacey myself should be a trait that I might work on a lesson. It wouldn't be anybody for me once we'll meet twice. We'll one hundred times which one is it or is saying that the that goes down in Texas. All right, flee. Once you're traits. Yeah, yeah, I'll I'll give my right flag and sometimes it takes a little bit of investigative research. Sometimes you just have to look at if they're following someone verified, and if that person follows them back and then you have a pretty good idea. But my quality that's major red flag to me is if the girl has had a one night stand or the professional athlete. A one night stand. They met that night. They slept together, but there's nine. She was her ask, got the boot the next morning and she went back home and just started her day like everything's normal. That's a red flag every seven ever apartment all two of them. Hopefully. No, no, no. I meant all all. Who who oughta ten talking. Now, this isn't to say you're prejudiced against women who've had one night stands, correct? No, no, no, no. It has to be with a professional athlete, a red flag for me. More than five one night stands and their entire sexual career row college on, come on, come on. You can't be having that many one night stands. If you're on what it means the reckless because you don't even know that person you could abduct you like come on. I thought I thought you read slang was if their mothers fat, none of said no mine. So my second red flag is that their mother is clinically insane. That's a major red flag to me because that means that they're probably going to clean sane. I know Frank likes them pretty insane. So it's probably a positive flag a little crazy. But she's training her. She's at the library right now. Training herself. The mind can be trained herself. I don't get this my future wife. That's who. She's. Spends my friend. What are the actual Vegas odds that the girl that Frank is going to marry is at the library. Now. Podcast. I don't think it's euro. I think the she listens to this podcast one in one hundred one hundred. Hired in that we got plenty of resumes because I think I think some girl one day that's good lookin' and is at least five. Nope. Is going to come up to you with nice, big fake boobs and she's going to go, hey, listen to your podcast. I love it instantly. You're going to be a hell. Yeah. Clear help? No, no, no, no, that's why I put one in one hundred. Nope. I agree with with no red flag about the crazy mother, but I think is the mother is like s- Cussing. Lee will think. Piece. I think that's even a red flag because like. You know, I'm going to quote the woman from Harry Potter prisoner. Asked at the end, there's something wrong with a bitchy, something wrong with them. For example of that, I've just he, there was never pretty girl in your prefer mothers a wheel that you are true. True that in this feeling well, let me tell you doing. You can never forget my friend cholesterol's the silent killer. Get you. There's another ready to. What the secret pros. So what what was he pros for the Joe's pro Joe's posted the hose. This. Why why I'm depressed? You're talking of bunch of single guys over there. Mike, it's not like any of us. Oh, no, no, no, this the podcast doesn't suck this. This sucks like, oh, your life. No, it's like you try to think through all the qualities you want for a woman dry to think them through. You think you're settled on something in your brain, and I'm positive that what I want is what I want. But like I've said before, it doesn't fucking exist. Go. I've started to get angry their children that listened to that Frank. We started this search a week ago. Yeah, he's in and we are nowhere closer. Our getting all Frank, we're significantly closer, hey, there's been an outpouring of support to try to go have a couple of twenty five point game and you'll be closer. You're this tastes okay, you that you are the case, but there's a lot of money willing to willing to donate thirty. Here's here buddy. Donate tend to Frank. I think of Frank is an all star this year he will find his wife. No, no, no, no, you can't leave. I don't think it hurt, hey, we have a rule baby. You don't leave the table when you're on a heater. All the good luck on your way here, though. Frank, you just took out a mortgage on your home to get back on the table bud. Also we can be part of the like, you know, the big point guards competition. You can do that. You can do that easily getting that gets looked, but is that going to attract over what the qualities that he wants? Here's another situation and trust me. I've thought about this a lot. And. Here's another situ. I wanna walk into like a farm town somewhere like maybe northern Siberia as doors talking about farm town and. Layla mount, you'll maybe and I want this person to have absolutely zero idea of who the hell I am. So my I don't like the people in. You'd be surprised there. Girls that fake. Oh, what do you do? It's like, you know what? You know what I do. Sometimes I don't know these times they don't. They do sometimes because what's the first thing you do when you meet a new person was very, I make out when you when you're done when you meet that new person says they don't know who you are. What is the very first thing they go and do make love no sweet love. Frank. I don't know what just jog my memory, but now, but I. Winning answer my question on your wife as France from dodgeball fed of Vicky. That's it. That's let me answer your question Frank with the response of and I'm not really answering the question is that most people that's their interactions. So we can't really tell you what the answer is to that because most people. Being look, don't know who I am. They go and they look at your social media. I have to ask me who I am. I all this talking about your future make makes me feel better about myself because I know. Not that any of the requirements that you have? I don't have with these sex. Yeah, a one year, not wanna your analysts. So I have, I have hundreds of years of genetics in the making all bottled into this seven foot frame. It would be such a bummer. If I married a five grow, my kids are like six, three. NBA point guard NBA point guards is Frank. They're not going to be that kid wants to play tennis, then good play tennis. He'll be the best damn tennis player in the world. If he's seven feet tall you show up? Yes, I do agree with Frank for this regard is actually pretty crazy statistic, and you think about it. I've mentioned you as before that if you that ninety nine point, nine percent of men are tall it in their mothers. So it's like Frank just needs to find someone that's six, three, six, four, and they're pretty much guaranteed to be wait, all massive, massive, human beings. Here's the thing guys. I gotta show. I have a solution to the whole height problem right off the bat. Allow Frank to marry any woman in the world doesn't matter about size, shape quite, come slop. It's a little business. We started calling. No comes over to let me just throw this out there. We spoke to some people in France marketing department, and they said that that whole idea potentially cost us a couple of partnership, stop road couple of marketing. Yeah. Yeah. Believe it or not. You know, people don't wanna hear their sponsors. Talk about, come swab filling. There's no idea day. Why got something I got a response. I got. I got a response guys. He's gotta respond response. Well, first of all, those people rejecting the future. Second of all those people also have the money and as the sugar, daddy of this podcast, I know you guys could also use some money, so maybe we should listen true. You'll get like ten bucks in royalties who gives us shit, hey, ten dollars matters. It real dog run a girl that keeps it real or what. Let's trains or the forward. What are they trains? What else? What about the secret? They're looking for. Mine's not a big secret, but she has to be breeding. You really to be flexible on now. All right. So we can rule out door set finding his future wife in a cemetery or. Or correct, or awake or a funeral home. Okay. Or a blow up sex. Okay. I think I think we're taking that one a little bit too far door. We got, we got it. She needs to be alive checkmark. Is it true? Is it true story? By the way, taught me the word necrophilia. We had Mr. Helmick freshman year studying. I can't believe him remember his right now. Alex. Are you a nickel failure and that and like this, the convince Tiki. But I do remember that actually. Yeah, I was not. And he was like, I know necrophiliac where I see what it. Yes, he is. I'm not proud of who I was when I was fourteen years old. Okay. Guys, we mistakes. Mine is. Mine is good hands. No, I don't want disproportional knuckles. I don't want to shallow hell. I want soft king. Saul can proportional hands and no, no, no finger paint or whatever the hell they put on. Finger paints finger paint. Yeah, there's three door. Alex wants the hands out, natural als. I wanna person said, put the put through my hair, say good job kit. He did a good work and then hopeful hands. I thought it was. She wanted soft hands her when she spanks her ass. That too. Because this way all the amenities like tits s you know, sometimes you're in the snatch. Almost. Spent like that time around those things, but that's early. Hold hands all the time. So it's like, that's a nice one have confused you're saying, but. Is not high on the list for me personally, I don't agree with not even in the ballpark girl that has long fingers and like nasty nails and like course, like Pammy girl. Have you ever seen has nasty nails? Tell what trailer poets are you hanging out? Dating carpenters, we don't know. Maria. She's go. Hey, if you notice that wasn't a quality that Frank said he wanted. So yeah, the woman in Siberia is still fits criteria. She does. Call them the shit out of a basketball that way. Exactly. So that actually kinda hot says, nice hands. I don't ask right. Right. Dylan. What's yours? Nichols, what's Hannah's best quality. Think this through my friend is very my favorite underrated quality is Harry nipples. Let me know. She's been places, you know, she knows life didn't come easy to a girl with Harry nipples, she has character. She has a lot of morale to keep going and fighting through everything, and she accepts who she is when she doesn't know what a Brazilian waxes. So she they hurt too much, you know, like can't do it. And if you shave it, it just gets worse. So she embraces who she is, and that's, that's a quality I look for in a woman is some nice hair it. But if you really want to know my quality, it's a good, good teeth. Nice smile. Like that. A lot. I don't like girls with nasty teeth. They suck. So you really not all of England then? Oh, no, no Europe basically. Well, good thing. I live in a US best Cottam nation. This world has ever seen back to back World War champs. That is a nice title to have it is there's been two world wars. We won them both eat that. Unlike the unlike the fucking French, I'm ready for World War three baby. Let's go to quote the great, great Nigel powers. Interesting. Interesting. Trivia, our tour people in this world. I can't stand people who are accepting of other people's cultures and the Dutch. And I think you said people because of their in the city in the Dutch, whatever. Same thing butchered it. What was your trivia question before before we get to the tree? A fact is. Is actually kinda crazy more more. Frenchmen died in World War One and all of dying every single war ever fought. So they put up a good fight meaning that is sucking over to because all their men were dead. So, but because the German people living share them. So interesting. Trivia thought that is that certainly has my life ponderings, but that's. Middle words. But the interesting learn. So you know what that tells me is that there's a lot of older single French ladies for you, and I heard that they liked going to libraries, but they may not be the most agile people in the world. And those nurse, I'm coming. Every hands stock. All right. I think I just had a realization guys. Yeah, you guys don't know what the fuck you're talking about. What are you talking about? It took you this long to figure that out. I mean, I got people on this podcast. I'm not gonna name names, but people on this podcast. Giving me advice. I don't think it's good advice. We weren't giving you advice you were trying to now. Now here a lot of advice. There's been a piece of advice given to you. Thank you looking for it. We didn't give it to you and your mad. No, I gotta say. I that you should buy food and pretend like you cooked. It can make up for your lack of skills in the catch. I got an idea I need to be on the bachelor. That's where I'm gonna find true love. Casts minded. It for the ratings now, so that. So we're all about all about ratings. No does that we're all about, but it'd be nice reviews are nice, good reviews, but like the movie fear with Mark Wahlberg the reviews are wrong. I never gave a good quality. By the way, if anyone, if any of you guys are looking for movie, that's like out of the realm and something that probably you or your significant other, or you know you in a friend and your board, and you don't know what else would you put on the movie fear with Mark Wahlberg. You won't regret it. I will cost for Dylan movie echoes places you have. Yeah. It is a shit movie like production wise and it was not well put together, but everything else makes up for that. So just put that on and I know you probably end up hooking up with whoever you're with, like after twenty minutes, he probably won't even really watch it and you'll get to the NBA what the hell is going on here. But chances are, if you're that person, your name is Frank and you've found your future wife. So no one's ever gonna watch the movie fear. She doesn't. Nation for movie that you said nobody's gonna watch? No. No said, chances are if you put it on and you're hooking up your Frank and you found you way over. Out there can feel my depression. It is using through the phone, right? Not Frank. So what was what was the quality? Right? I don't think you said it. Is it like a? Is it like an underrated quality, whatever quality you're looking for? My name rightly five frankly, maybe you just need like somebody who studied psychology in college. I want. You know people that study psychology tend to be the most insane people. I did not know that. Then it should be turn on for because any ask her instead with antics. So. Is my turn turn Joe. Guys don't say another word gift, Frank, the floor for at least two to three minutes. Go on Frank, depressing mood talk for two minutes every floor. So my under, I actually have a lot of qualities. I don't think I can confined into one. I think I'd say my favorite thing is I've shared my bed with a female before it's no secret. My mother knows she's still proud of me as a person. But I hate it when I am forced to sleep in an uncomfortable position next to a woman. I like when they know that your side, this is my side. We don't pillow barrier in the middle. It's my side. So someone who realizes that is good in my book. That's one all no. That's number one. Number one, underrated quality. You still got another minute. Keep going. Far as other, it'd be very good, Frank, other underrated qualities. Another thing I enjoy thoroughly is when you go to a place and you don't always have to entertain that significant other of yours, like you see people go out to places like that are in relationships and they're just glued at the hip the whole time. I don't like that because I'm a guy and I think Alex is the same way like I enjoy roaming around in not really asking people to roam around. So like when I do that, I don't wanna have to think for another person. Fifty seconds. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Another unredacted qualities. You gotta have a really pretty face and you have to not supp-. So yeah, that ought to do it. Ding ding honest, we talked a lot of shit on you so far in this episode, but those were those all were pretty hot. Let's let's go over that phrase. Girl doesn't know. Sorry, we cut door set off door, finish your thought. I was just going to say the the sides events thing is I, you have my vote for that because there's nothing worse than like sleeping next to a girl, and you have your hand like behind her head and you're trying to do that whole thing and your whole right arm is numb by that time away. You're going to get any still worst. That is the absolute worst. Awful awful. We live in the lake. Your. You're stuck. Sleep is a third of what we do on this planet Gillian for Christ's sake. Thank you. Thank you. I feel you on that one hundred percent. Franken. Thank you. I want to go back to that phrase. We're talking a lot of shit on him. I think it's pretty, you know, don't truck back. I get what you're saying, but that doesn't make any sense. And I just wanted to point that out. Still not a lot make sense that I say, if you haven't picked that up. So I guess what we got out of this is that as Frank searched for wife, future wife continues, he is becoming more and more demoralized by the day by the hour by the minute by the second by the week by the week. So I had a question, what did you find the woman that fits all those qualities, but she's horizontally on the bed. That's breaker. Oh, she plays fantasy football to God. She's back in. Doc Saturday, she's out everywhere. She's out. That's fair. Any while we need to relay back in. Okay, I'll she's back in. We need a brave soul to take the plunge with Frank pretty soon because this this could get bad quick and take a bullet. We need more resumes. We've got a couple of resumes sent to us. We need a few more please. Please keep sending them date. All right, Frank wants to go on a date. So someone you were actually on a date. I don't even know what you consider a date, like whatever you've been doing something where all of us around somewhere, what actually leave my apartment. We're not around you basically. I don't know. Like two years ago, I think he laid the car to Morton's two blocks on the street. Once. Oh, man. That girl sucked too. You only FaceTime every five seconds for like a week, two weeks dates, where we look, we, we go to escape room and that they that he brings with Souths. Absolutely. None of the puzzle. Red flag that is. At least one of the clues like twenty of them. That was a really hard escape room though. Give me a clue to a clue, you know, like help me out like how the hell was underneath the cost. They are. No, no escape rooms are basically just guessing until you get it right? Yeah, exactly. There's no, it's just a straight line besting. Yeah. Or just or just giving up and asking guy for help do it doesn't make any sense at the serial numbers on the pizza box. Unlocks a lock underneath is so yeah. There was one where there was a plank of wood and Mike literally, it was like, oh, you have to cover a letter with the plank of wood, and then slide it down and cover another ladder with a plank of wood. And then you get that letter and then you spell out the word and it's like, how? How would I have known how to do that? Like what I had to. I had to one time I had to take apart a lamp and find a piece of string that was in there and use the string after I found a magnet that was inside of the back of a radio and stick it down a sink to get like the serial code to open up the next gate. We got to the big guessing. Franks quest for love continues. We'll go into fantasy football week three, which is nice. Franks team sucks, but I'm going to let him defend ourself. Let's wrap this Joe down up. It's been going on for a little while, but I felt like we need to make this up for you guys because of that horsh it lasts episode. Entre. So yeah, honoring is here depressed. We're gonna finish it off door. I wanna finish it off. I wanna give a shout out. Okay. Michelle does the my future wife. You don't know it yet. You're probably still in the library. Gotta love you so much. She still a teenager. You don't know. You don't know how much I already love you like you really don't. I've, I've been waiting for you. I've been waiting for you my entire life literally. And now that I've found you sitting there in the library, this is this is post Michael Scott at post jam. This is Michael Scott post Jan where he's just desks. It really so bad that I can find comfort in the arms of potential future lover. Is it really so bad? Do you guys? Is it really? I can't keep doing this. I gotta give. I gotta give my shout outs here. I got to real quick. Well, actually I've four total first one is combined trio of women that I met down in Nashville that I'm deeply deeply in love with Laura, m and mar. Thank you guys. It was a hell of a time. I'm sorry. I blacked out and can meet you later. I'm hoping. Point inlet, did you get their numbers all three of them role in group sex together. It's Christmas, FaceTime them last night. So Chris, putting the jury work record? Yes, he is the door for nothing. Anybody that is in fails. I had Kuwait or rough day of getting getting told, no unsubscribe. Fuck you. From your list. Spam piracy laws. Dollar fine for your organization and my personal favorite disappointing MAC period. So anybody that can sales, it's a grind. Keep your head up. Just think the worst people can say no or go, fuck yourself, move on. Sounds like they sounds like they can break down systematic. Oh yeah. My my will was destroyed under the net. That's a good shot out. On shots as well. One of them for is to out for coming down a national thing. Late fifties sixties, and he was a great we man for for for lunch at lunch national. It's to be quite the through the most fun time. We have repayment national and then the second one is adjust Gordon just the. The next six months. And then you illegal, I don't care. So yeah, that's my shot. All right. So I think we're ravenous episode up right now. This was a fun one. I think we really enjoyed it. Frank is on his phone now. So you know, we lost him shoutout chimera. Will you were making fun of my future wife in me giving her a message that she will listen to it some point. So over you guys out. Shame. Good. Jay. Anything. Shit. Shows. Oh boy. Keeping. Expand. Sure.
Pros and Joes with Frank Kaminsky
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Episode #24 - PSA: Frank needs a Wife Pt. 2
Hello, everyone and welcome to another episode of pros and Joe's. This is our second episode of the week. We are really excited to do it. We were all really excited to do it. I should. I should say. But then Alex literally is nowhere to be found. We have no idea where he said three hours ago that he was about to start a dinner. He didn't specify anything, but he is gone dark on us. So we have to assume that he's on his own quest for lava right now. We talked about my quest for love last week, but we didn't even dive into Alex, not last week. Last episode. We're that we're doing to when we come to it. But yeah, I guess Alex is trying to find his own thing. Yeah, door sets over there waiting for him for the last couple of hours. So we decided that we're not gonna waste or sets time anymore. We're going to get this thing. This thing. Scars real excited for a second up Assode you know, a little as the call to show biz bourbon eight double team, two times in one week, let's get asterik is two days. I haven't had those football in high school. Yeah, I cut known are cut. I just was a fragile little bitch and got rocked too many times broke my collarbone. And you play football in high school? Yeah, freshman year. Then I tried sophomore year and. With game? It was. It was like the first game of the season and Hitler talking about earlier. It was like the last play, the game heaved up just on absolute co Aker like the duck of all docs and so on. Just fullish -ly running underneath. This is completely on the receiver. Yeah. Yeah. It wasn't a very hands of gold. I was more possession receiver guys my career with on catch for three yards, but secured a I was a big game. Yemane Rita in. I don't know, sir, came of season, you know, that's what we call the momentum builders. If you lose that third game, everybody knows as does the shore sense at Harir high in a game. One catch three yards. I was I was the white Jarvis Landry Bennett. Later gets a lot of catches. Amari Cooper, I guess. But here's what I will say. Door set. Got a lot more girls is school than I did. We're gonna talk about the quest for love. We are going to talk about the quest for love. I think that peaked my cost for love in high school. I was as the kids are saying our days sex machine day. Okay. No, no, I wasn't. But yeah, I think that's accurate. I mean, it didn't really help Frank sets. You looks like a circus animal back in high school. Look a lot better now and still no Channing Tatum or anything like that, but the tables have certainly slips. Yeah, I'll just say that I have a kind of a quick story. Frank was dating someone in high school and he was madly in love with her and I went on a retreat. So I was gone for two three days before I left with retrievers madly in love. And one of the first tax I get when I get my phone back after their school retreat was I broke up with her. So he was badly love just one out of love in two, three, two days. That's how fine how fast I find the flaw. I found the flaw was the flaw. She was boring. Break. Let's different time to date the high school library for. Well, it's funny now now. Good segue. It's funny, the amount of responses we've I've personally gotten about my quest for love from the last episode I have had so much vice thrown my way, whether it's advice I'm actually going to use. I have no idea probably give us one piece of advice. My older sister texted me, so this is always awkward conversation. Yes. Stick your pain. My older sister is trying to get me laid. Wildly successful. She said. Be the person that the girl will. I gotta read it while that sounds like shit. So just be the type of person deserves that type of girl and it will happen before you know it, what? Here's the thing I fill a Saab, I, I understand. I understand where she's coming from, but I already am the person. It's me on the what a guiding it. What was it be? The type of person that deserves that type of girl in it will happen before, you know it do. That's kind of like her talking about you. Exactly. So now she's backhanded slapping me in the face. I'm not the type of person that deserves girl like real quick real quick real quick segue off of that into related to life. You know, everybody says, like, you know, Ricard good things come to good people who work hard. I'm going to be the first to say that is a hundred percent OSHA, and I'm going to say you're a hundred percent wrong. He definitely wrong. I mean, there's some people that work hard in life and just always get shit on, but there's some people who. Work really hard and life in and get what they worked for. Not that's true. But I think the hard in lice, but you also cut a ton of corners in cheat. You know, that's not working hard trying not working hard. It's. Do you have any idea was talking about, dude, I think you're wrong. It was a stretch. It's been something that's been going on in my mind, all weeks, call my ass. Here's the thing. You also have to work hard with the right purpose to get the success. Right? You can work hard chopping, you know, like hitting a hammer against a humongous rock and never break through the rock. Like that's not working hard working hard towards something that's realistic. And then you find the goal. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, no. Like if you sit there with a with a wooden spoon and just bang a huge boulder in ever gonna you never gonna break. That could be hard work after a while, but you're never going to get through it, you know? So. Irving romo's and built in a day. A lot of jobs of people who worked hard to build also had a mission that was realistic and into completed it. I'll say some people work hard without without any sort of brain behind it. You know? Okay, JJ watt. Let's let's move on quick little tidbit about Rome before we move on. So. We went to, we went over there. This past was it was a couple of months couple a couple couple. Now it's kinda tough to our families. I was listening. Compare what was stopping. Well, I mean the fact that your parents were doing it. His Bob listens. It's one of my story. It actually has something to do with sex of. Okay. So fun fact, if nobody knew this, I was a history major in college interested. One thing they didn't teach you in history. Books is industry upon pay. The Romans used to actually put like bronze, Dick's paved into the streets to point the way to like or houses and shit like that. Also Kris Bryant just want yard. So there's that was that was really good for us. We needed that. But yeah, fun fat. Romans of sexual sex, please continue Frank. History lesson wanna one right there. So I'm start, I think Mr. teaching the listeners a lot more Frank young. I just I sit here and I contemplate life. I think about all the things that I want in life. I think about what my ideal girl is, and I put into a podcast, I roll it all up. I throw myself out there. I've listened to opinions of people that matter. I've listened to people that don't matter. I've had girls that just no, they don't fit the criteria of what I was talking about, shooting their shot at me today. And then I hear some like that door, restored my faith in humanity bronze Dicks on the streets. Exactly what we need doing miles bridges towards you have no shot. Yeah, he did. He doesn't know what he's got so much to learn Frank. What do you think about rookie talk? I don't. I mean, he's a person. I don't really care. I'm not one of those. I'm not dispenser Haase's of the world. Hint hint for later in the episode. I am no Spencer Hawes. So I treat rookies like normal people. There are people out there that don't treat rookies like normal gotta, find Spansih story. So we just relate to what Frank is saying. We moved into a lot nicer apartment things rookie year, and it was literally during game five or game six of his rookie year against the heat and the playoffs just to give you an idea of how closely under the was. And so they laws in game seven. And then that night a bunch of his teammates came over and Spencer was legitimately smoking a cigar inside her apartment our couch out her. No, he was standing by the doorway was literally ashington. I'm like a bomb. I think Tyler hands or I was like, dude, have respect, do win the fuck and rookies place. He literally just ruined my brand new carpet. Granted, there was like a seventy dollar Rog was air Razi care. There's a new apartment and a new rug, and he was a smoking car over at not caring. So that's what brings talk about. Yeah, for background information rookies are like the scum of the earth when an NBA locker room or the rightfully or unripe fully get treated leg it. What a big Al used to have. You do go on strike there any hazing stories you can kinda tell. I mean, here's the thing I was never hazed because anytime they attempted to do something you would consider hazing just accepted it and I made it. This isn't a friend I had. I had fun with it like like the dancing thing. I didn't China and there's a video of that like they thought I was going to be so embarrassed to do that, but I just went out there and killed it. You also got a thousand dollars for. Yeah, that was. I didn't know it was. Four thousand dollars l. gave the winner of the rookie dance contest a thousand dollars, which was me because I'm awesome. But like on road trips about that. What was the Chinese reception to your break dance? They're probably like, what the fuck is this guy doing. Honestly, look like I was having a seizure, but yeah, I mean, I don't know how to dance. I move my body and contorted in ways that don't make any sense in big Al make. Have you like Uber somewhere that was like over an hour away to go get him something or so he used. I mean, nothing ridiculous. I mean, get food on the road carry bags. You know, the usual stuff like, you know, as NBA vets, he's been ELS. I think he's going to China this year boy. Fantastic. Honestly, probably my favorite person I've met in the NBA so far, hilarious. Gray due to be around, always takes care of everybody, kinda guy that allies putting l Frank was because of his big checkbook, and he would take care of everybody or that's mainly it. The reason no other, no other reasons. Just. Yeah. Give me a funny line of big Al. He's used to tell me them. I allow us to say he loves his women, a cheeseburger away from being fat. If the fat, what's different, like what is operatives shoulda fan. Here's another one. One user, say all the time. If she ain't to eighty, she ain't lady. I just picked her picture big Al and Melissa McCarthy having Khalil Mack. I mean, great dude, some of the funniest, honestly, one of the funniest guys ever been around in my life, but on the road used to go get some Jimmy Johns subs before the games and members, stuff like that. Shit, child support. Until story. Yeah. But like you used to make me do impressions in the locker room like he'd make me memorize like rap songs and wrap them in front of everybody. Nothing ridiculous. Like always enjoyed doing it like, I don't know. This is fun like, but the the worst thing ever made me do, which was what I was very upset about. His headphones broke on game day morning. I think we were in Detroit and he said, rook. Oh, Gimmie. Some headphones. Go. Give me some nice ones from the mall. I was like with, where's the mall? It was like forty five minutes away. Like did I don't? I heard Uber's thing like, so I had to take a forty five minute Uber to the mall to go get big l. beats headphones on a game day and he used them for that game and never use them again. Did he pay for them? Yeah. Okay. You gave me some money for it to it was just the convenience of Frank that is not even close. You know, my, I have a game day routine got mass with their man. Frank, I had to drink poop in fucking college fraternity ship. A made a poop smoothie for all of us to drink to finish it to get into a stupid fraternity and woah will slow, slow, slow, what slow Dorsey, low, what? Animals, what? Why? Animals. A lot of Ambi made you drink poop smoothie, someone, shit, someone pooped in a blender in made you drink out. Now, we had a house dog. We had a house. And it was just like, oh, heard that was to come on. Frank that's called brotherhood. No is not do nets call bullying was. I mean, there is a reason guys call me Bertie door. I cannot door if somebody gave me a smoothie with pope in it. Do you know how much? I would freak out? Dude, you drank poop. A little bit of what else did you have to do. We got shot by paintball guns while we're naked. That wasn't a lot of fun. Dude. You're perhap- rose. Are assholes? Yeah, yeah, that wasn't. I understand. Like making making the people like making the kids drink a little bit or making them stay up late and having to go to classic sauce here like dipping too much like you have to throw a whole candidate dip in. Physical wellbeing, double horseshoe, and boy. Oh boy. Let me tell you what a plus at is. Why was the foreign of that? There's no point you're in college. You know, people think being all boys will be frat. Boys will be boys, and that's, I don't know, tell you this. I'll tell you this though. Fred's in college threw amazing parties, amazing just the top of the line parties, but I would never drink a dogs pooped to get into one not at the Paul university. Had fun parties to all right. Let's bleep the college out for Christ's sake. You know a lot. It was like a small like two and a half inch little turn one, two and a half inches heard. Do that two and a half inches or poop. Poop. You eight poop, you drank. Can we move on? I, I cannot live off this up. You didn't think there would you just thought that comment which is go and pass? Yeah, what's wrong with you? There's a lot. I mean, honestly testament to you for having the mental fortitude to be able to do that and intestinal, aren't you how to taste. Intestinal really bad. We also. The worst thing is that means qualification and you have to do again. I feel like they did poll. So you finish the first one and the all things are done, and everybody just feels like absolutely terrible. A second one out, there's no poop in that once it's just like the remained. So they took dinner and we had like we took to coach him like house dead. God bless their chatty, Papa. But they had to cook for like sixty guys. So they would take all the leftovers just something to apply to. And that's what they brought out for. Like number two, knowing that you're done, but you had to clean the rest of the house. It was a really missed. So they blended up like actual food, cheeseburgers, and fries in Khalef lower, and clams literally like an. It was disgust. I'm over this. Yes. So Frank, your Zien story from the NBA. I mean, yeah, compared to that, do you know the ridiculous outcry there would be if if an MBA. Poop or drink. Can you imagine like what the what the reaction would be like. I can't even imagine. Italy several for saying that. Can I? Can I, the statute of limitations still saying, you don't know. You also frat honestly, door set known cares. It's fine. Seguin off that there are a few kind of stories I think would be funny to tell about a particular love life of someone involved in this podcast, which is me. Do you meet a funny? So I have come to realize now I've really been thinking about, it know we, we released a podcast on that, and I knew that that part of the podcast would be kind of what people were talking about. That's why we kind of made it the title. I mean, we had an hour long episode and the title of it was PSA Frank needs a wife. I do need a wife. I do need one venture -ly. And I kinda wanna start building towards that. Now. I've come to the realization that I empty Lee deeply alone in this world. I have. I have about eight dudes that I consider my best friends. I'd say a solid group of about eight guys that I consider my best friends that honestly are like a collective girlfriend to me and what I realize how quickly I've crashed and burned. Literally every late relationship I've been in, there's one relationship that actually lasted for a long time and it. Well, that didn't end well, the one I had in highschool got consistently cheated on for a long time. We talked about that. We talked about that one before. We talked about that one before, but I did mention how every girl I've ever dated or how to relationship. Absolutely hate me. So with that being said, recently, I was. Talking to a particular woman and very nice girl. Like I liked her a lot. But as far as if you factors go, things are difficult. It's very hard being in Charlotte in having to be here with an NBA season starting. So as you can tell the naturally, the re the reaction of PSA Frank needs. A wife was not very well received on her hand. Our that says, so listen to this by the way. So. So. This, this may not be the best place to bring it up and talk about, and we'll obviously leave names out of it. But yeah, I'm pretty sure she is on the express, train to the Frank hatred station. Yeah, so not yet. Another casualty of it's not over. It's not dead. It's a casualty during. Here's the thing. Here's the thing I talked about my dream woman. Yeah, in me doing going out and doing that is a direct slap in the face or a direct note that you are not my dream woman. It can be taken that way, but shouldn't. It's a pretty straight shot right at right at the heart. I asked Frank when he was talking about that, did he think about anyone that he was like anyone at that time? And he said, no, that he was just talking. He wasn't thinking about it. True. True. So I've saying it was just conjecture. What we're doing there? I don't. I don't know. I think it's, I think this is an apology. Yeah, I don't know, kind of like, sorry. Ship, you're trying to our don't know what the fuck. I'm doing relationships like. I don't want you weren't in a relationship. I wasn't technically in a relationship, but like there was there were some sparks. I mean, yeah, there's sparks sparks anger that you ever talked to. You pass like, you know, a DM guys. This nines me of of a pretty famous quote by by one joker, Frank is like a dog chasing cars. He just wanted you caught it. That's actually very true. Kind of is. All right. You guys wanna call you guys wanna call, Alex. See if he was actually on a date for sure. Was on a date. Yeah, call. Let's call them. Who are you on a date with. Tell us right now. I'm apartment old son. I thought we were starting to show later. We assumed dinner at six means that you'll be done by like seventy dinner started three hours ago. I I was in the middle of the conversation, wasn't looking at my phone for three hours. Stats dinner from like six thirds like eight thirty. We're talking about Frank came to the conclusion that that he's alone and every ship he's ever had crashed and burned. Yeah, he free you up the girl. That's the problem into you. Don't know. He opens up and closes like a clam. I know that like my last girlfriend, I opened up so much. I know that a fact I. I'm the same way. I'm an emotional open book, whatever plates want. There's a great, we'll probably gets drunk and just says everything. I'm gonna sit relation like any time that you're while my name's Alex flood in reality on something else and what I do. What. Island, right? National saying like real philosophical with it. Like, what are we doing here? You know, like why? Why we're talking? Nate? Awesome. Other attractive, but there's gotta be some common interests why we like each other. We don't know those. Sometimes I question we're girls out and sometimes it's like, oh, this sure there. And that's what I go with. And I know with my most recent girlfriend which is last fall that was not it for about two months, and then she don't my ass. So. With guys. It's like s he's almost like a. Gone or. And like the Kirkland active and shrug, I'd beat the hell out of the guy. Hold on everybody. Hold on what LX in Dylan. Why is that your measure of human beings? I can wait. One of our ever said that like this is this is the reality of the situation. I learned this through Jalen throughout the years still owns a lot, but strong with me. Me as much knowledge they want in reality, all matters who as a bigger stick in reality, he can get the hell out of me and I speak the truth as much good as a matter of his fister hit Marc face. We haven't thought in like actually fought in, but it's it's a philosophy that still stands to this day. So I'm gonna go with that guy, the guy she's still a knock off version of me. So. You've actually Alex. I have. I have a question before I have a question before you go any further. Could you ever mentally fathom the possibility that maybe your knock offers of him? No. No, that's not the truth. Shots from our shop. I'm not saying it's true. I'm not saying I believe what I just said. I'm just simply asking the question in a want. I'll probably meet this fellow with the next couple of weeks. I know we're gonna be at a mutual wedding and I'll get out, get a better judgment from myself then. So this this conversation will continue a couple of weekends. So it'll be interesting to see other react to the podcast, so so let's bring, Alex. Let's bring my white buffalo. I don't give a fuck if they listen to. I don't care. That's the realist-. That's like the realism. And I know her brothers by listen to this episode. His brothers. One of my good friends. Part, which is a shame what you knew going into it. You know how he is? I did, but like I didn't know how to react with the situation. So the girl talking about was a couple years younger than us and is good friends with Dylan. And he's of say, refrains rolling focusing fantasy football league. No, I don't care. It's been a fucking years. Has. On this one. So to talk a Frank struggles get open up with people, and I know that you don't talk superficial shit, and eventually that comes back. Is coming at you. And I had a couple of glasses of wine or tonight, and I'm really feeling it. So did this must be the one because Alex was office phone for hours. It's funny. It's whenever it girl tax talked to, Alex nothing else matter? No, not even fortnight. Now high sticks. Literally, there could be a building burning down in front of Alex in a girl's texting him. He will be glue as respond to that. I I've said it before in this show. Actually talking up so, but you're not in the room at a restaurant with them. And as a result, I'm talking to them. Fullest to if I saw. I mean, I guess I should've been cognizant that recording episode of the night, but I kind of forgot because I point and it's, it's definitely ruined. I don't regret. It sounds like the one. What does that salient place? Gold Coast. Can't remember the name of it was good. Where did she get? We? We split a chicken. You guys eat it like that that cartoon when eat the pasta. Tune? What is it. Our night, which is probably more than I should be spending, but a a, what? Alex. I got a question. Got a question. No, you can't. It's twenty dollars. 'cause I got a question with is she hot, come on Frank. You know the answer to that follow up. Question issue, one. On the night. Into the question. Well, off the date she's gonna sue this, how come? I can't. He can't slap fucking carts down. Right. That's true. Yeah. And hopefully she doesn't listen to this episode because I don't wanna get like reviews on the day, but it was good. I enjoyed it talked a little bit about, like like we talked about the NFL thing with the whole capper Nick, you know, change because you don't like the conversation. She agreed with me on the acts like that. They sense. So, yeah. In that regard. This girl sounds like the one she agrees with Alex conspiracy theories already on, here's. Here's this. The first days was this the first day? What are the motives. If add up. Get off that was this the first date? Yeah. How'd you meet. Oh, no, actually measure. It must be. Oh, so you might be able to piece together who this is. I think, what is her height and approximate weight? I not. I'm not giving any details so issue to eighty and a lady. Does she way to eight and a lady. I got another follow up question again. Sure. Just tell me hair-color blonder Burnett one or the other. Maybe make sure both dies can rule out. We could roll up black here. All right. We can rule out. You. I want to Moskvy fest without you guys for verifying. I was walking back to the apartment when you were walking over to go the concert at the concert and like an hour or two perforce a million girls. We have a little bit of a connection from u. of I, and I just said, hey, great. Talk with you. They were leaving. I said, let's meet up later this week and get some food. And I actually really today and they said, sure. So we went out. So it's more than doubled. Wait, it's too, you know? No, I just met like girls I knew from u. of I, I want him back into the head cedar couple years in study. Let's catch up and she's like, yeah, so that's all it was the one. Did you have catch up in your meal at all? No, no catch up. Oh, come on. That's date. Food is that was taking the logic tubs? Honestly, I think McDonald's is always a solid choice. Catch up there. Now you are kind of better place to catch outs. I did wear polar shirk though, which in reality was kind of try hard. I shouldn't have worn a full on. So I got a question for you guys. So obviously dates that I go on our little bit more luxurious in maybe. Maybe San's romance you would say, don't you mean where. You mean where you drive two blocks valley or car? Yeah, my drive. That's a luxuriance right there. I drive two blocks my hundred thousand dollar car in various. We walked. So I need help. Okay. Guys. Like what do you do on date? Don't say comments like that one. Okay. What their wine every time? Yes, get wine then even if lunch, thank even if it's Luntz converse and everyone knows that lunch, the jerk off meeting or jerk off before dinner. Okay. Come on. That's true. But here's the thing as soon as the waiter opens up the bottle hill are you also opens up the conversation, and that's all people just kinda got a heart on for. I think it's important that you guys get the same meal to if you can get a double Seraing deport, could conversations talk, ran this chicken was real good. Important conversation. Now I'm in the other. Each other's exactly taste to others like you get, you know, and then that way she's, you know, the physical contact almost there. She's crossed over in down three and you know you've made a little progress lady in the triumph, right? You guys get a little bit of spaghetti is never. Celso. Also the other things, Frank homefield advantage I'm pessimistic own field advantage cannot be discounted if you go to place where like the people know you own. Here's the thing I have to deal with when I go places. A lot of people like a not trying to toot my own horn, but a lot of people know me in, they come up, they interrupt in. That's not always the best picture that I wanna paint. If myself, I feel like that's a good thing. I mean, while while dad's not like pay attention to anything, I said, last episode like Ryan burgundy people. Okay. I got a solution here. Can you cook. No, hell no. Okay. I have a solution to that too. You have posting its. You can order nice food and place it in the oven, say blue or something or your. Earners burners on real low. You have the pasta. They just ordered from, I don't know, pup Boji shows or something that's just right on the stove or monop- sushi gets there. You got the towel over your shoulder just finishing up. Maybe you put a little, parsley, a little Faysal on top of whatever just got delivered and serve it to her, and she thinks he can talk or you don't. You don't get enough credit for your good ideas. I told you the first episode we ever did this. I was the vet is that isn't she? That idea though, but I disagree in the notion that if you're eat your house, you should cook it though because I kind of art of like in one of the things going on dates waiting for the food is like part of the excitement you now, it's kind of like the finale I think you had already if you had dinner already sitting on a plate before they get kind of weird. So I get the helpful tips for those that can't cook, so at least put up a facade. I can't cook for shit, but here's the thing even at the food's not that great. I don't think it was awful. I got awful. You're still fine. You're in the clear because he has made the phone together. So also we, we talked about, why are we boxing ourselves into the fact that the state has to engulf food once a month when you did something doer, it's. That comes later. I one outdoor activity or something. That's always a good way to start it off. Yeah, but like you can tell a lot of euro, like if you go to a restaurant and she orders the most expensive thing on the menu like she better be putting out. Yeah. From the I learned that from the office. It's something over fifty dollars. You gotta put out somewhere another. Otherwise they won't be a second day. At least a hand. Shiver always stand having set the girl that I was with got a salad. So no, no figure, I'm joking, but yeah. Okay. Now before you got on, we were talking about how most of my relationships that I've ever been. If completely crashed and burned in how after the release of this episode and the PSA from each looking to find a wife, the most recent one was not happy about it that I told you about. Suitors on Twitter, they're offering themselves up, so got to filter through those. Yeah. So I was just talking about how I've gotten a lot of advice, some good, some bad, mostly bad because people don't know what people still don't seem to understand what the hell I'm looking for. So I just wanna ask a simple question. It's very simple where the hell is my wife, where is she? I'm pretty sure gave the answer last northern Siberia. She's champion worth northern side, not on Instagram. She's very closely. She and unicorn somebody to close with her father. That is neither here nor her brother for her love. But exactly it's a battle that's worth just like sit around and hope that she shows up because I don't leave my apartment. I don't really do much are pretty big homebody actually, I like you. You sit down and your as you wait too many video games going going, meet random people, like, I mean, you get recognized. But I mean in the end, it's usually just a couple of come up and mainly. Dance. A lot of dudes for sure, true. And women just kinda tend to stare at you like a draft just locked down central avenue or something. Sucks. Dude. I. All right. I got another solution like match dot com or Asia? No, no, that we all tall. My dad did that after I'm not doing that. Lumped in with their father, son, but he, I'm, I am not harmony guy. I trying maybe maybe I would consider farmers only dot com Mamie because I know that girl does not know who the hell I am. So here's a question like, what have you been doing recently? What's your Instagram VM's? Is that your your boat of? No, it's not much occasion. That's not mainly my mode of communication happens naturally like, what am I supposed to do? And my friend Mark. Handling happening naturally. To me, I look, I put up a story in someone responds, and then I start having conversation like it's just natural. That's what happens. And I can't always help it. But like my my friend Mark brought up a great point when he he listed episode and he texted me and asked me about it. He's like, he's like, I have a serious question for you is like when you meet a girl somewhere, what's the first thing you do? Do you go in check her Instagram? I was like, yeah, because you gotta find out about the person like they put themselves out research, but like he brings a good point because I shouldn't do that. I should find out who the person is first and then go figure out who they are, like social media wise later on. That's that's what we've come to. Impossible to not go look at their social media. It's like almost. It's like it's like almost instantly. It's like, hey, what's your Instagram? What's your Twitter handle? What's your Snapchat? Okay, Frank. Here's here's my combat. So that that theory have you. When was the last time dated a girl quote, unquote when you guys lived in the same City College. So it's been three years. I think that's kind of bane of it. I mean, you need to need to. You need to be in the same city as the people in otherwise, all your news be talking to text message or Instagram. It's really not while it's communication. That's not really great communication for me. I, I hate them. I don't really been in Charlotte for like. Benadryl later, Mike combat. My comeback to that point is I've been in Charlotte for three years. I haven't found a single person that is close to what I want. I visited there and I've had girls, you have different, you're you have a different standard than I do. Number one, your girl was not. Your girl was not five, ten or taller gone out done by. Yeah, but she's dutiful, but she's older. She's also older. So number six on the less you can't be that much older than me. Yes. Eight years older than us. That she just turned eight years old. She was seven last week. I got two ideas on the. We're going on about my love life for a very long time here. This is starting to get almost uncomfortable. What's your opinion you? The kid for last three years, Dylan Dylan's disappeared on us. Jesus frankly, onion we. There's a lot. We got back here unfortunately, but we'll get to the core Vezzali. I think if you just go and leave your apartment for like, yes, yes, yes. That's all the girls that on. You know, like last show the girl. I thought it was awesome, huge bitch, but you live in, you learn, you know. I think we grow and go to go to the show at Hornets game or something like that. The girl that I that I of dinner at Hornets game. So. Wonder why the hell you were there. Hampers game for Christ sake. I've been two games I grew, here's. Here's vital flaws, Frank, you, you leave your at like midnight. I don't like the good. The good girls like the wholesome girls. They've left already there at nine. Leyva ten thirty. You know, you go way too late. You get the riffraff. You get the bargirls the bar ads. That's my soul. I firmly believe you also not going to be through life at a club and it's not never willing to do. That's not just me hours that's like act. That's my philosophy. So I don't know. Maybe it's one day you wake up in the morning. You have an off day. You go get coffee. She girl standing behind you a hearty five, eleven girl, nice blonde hair librarian glasses on, ooh, spark of a conversation. Where did you get? Oh, I don't know between them. I don't know what else they have Starbucks. You start talking just happens like organically. I don't know. Maybe I'm more outgoing like that nets out of me, but I think you will Instagram to. That's that's. I don't think that's the solution. I also, here's your so staying offing shit. I get uncomfortable office. Get. That's a problem like. Do. I don't know. Do nothing like it's like me out game now. Just let me nuts. I don't. Okay. So you throw up role, big deal. You know what? That's not the worst thing that can happen. I was. I was about cold calling. I started my job three years ago, so now we're gonna really cold calling to my love like my little. Taylor action. Yeah, absolutely. In in your mind, you filled it up, you know, I, unless I achieved my girl. I got the NBA. It's still the some girls that actually isn't enough for girls really tough to get. That's not enough. You play an MBA isn't enough. There needs to be more to just eight, which is which filament. So. Getting. All right, this is this is what you're getting. You're getting a great guy. You getting getting a guy that's very caring guy. That's loyal guy. That's kind of an asshole. He's kind of ugly. But if you look at them the right way, you're like, I see it. Got a little bit of dough few dollars in to that. Probably stirs people off. I appreciate it. Jokes made about that. Tell me how many inches come on stop. Our Jesus on the cross, but I digress and stop those pretty okay. Yeah. Dade radio but drink. I mean, it's a list. It's do have a lot of redeeming clerk. The risks are really just think put a lot too much pressure. I really am. Maybe maybe it is where I just gotta sit back and wait for it. Maybe we. I've learned that you seek, you don't find, but when you're not seeking, it seems to come to you. And I think it might be not say confidence, but that might be it might be a confidence, their wife seen like really good looking girls try to talk to you any clothe 'em off a couple couple years at law Pluess this one crashing for the coach like five, two. What what you're doing this. This is gone, and then it's like, well, there goes person trying to talk to you. But well, my response to the matter is she was very short. Me and short girls. I don't understand how tall people like short girls. I don't get it. Well, you've limited yourself because here we've had this conversation before, see what are the odds that your future significant taller than me search, like pretty likely most likely cut off already a big percentage of the population just by that standard, which is fine. I know, know me, you know me, I'll hold out for the highest standard thing I won't settle for, but then you also be lonely too. So I guess that's the trade off. It will be the most satisfying thing in the world. When when I do find exactly what I'm looking for, I don't think she exists. I think she's a unicorn. Let me bring up another potential new avenue that we will go down. Have you conversed with any of your seal co workers in the other professional basketball league? The NBA? No, by they seem like they meet the height standards serve the kind of love with each other. They. How about you already? I love I love. I love ball players. Then those thought the United States. Direct message or finding your fate. So so I'm supposed to meet some girl somewhere, but now I'm supposed to just DM you guys sniff snaps snips now grasping for straws for girls that just post good photos on Instagram. People have Instagram's like they don't. They're not trying to become like Instagram models and shit. I feel like that's a lot of girls you. You kinda hunt for a little bit. And as we know those, those girls are shallow as a kiddie pool, but. I just think that you knew the prospecting as door set set co calls you gotta make some co calls out there. Doors. I'm gonna make formal resume for social media, then Hello. My name is Francis, namely Kaminsky the the third as I stand here, I'm seven feet tall, two hundred and forty five pounds. I have great qualities. Great personality. I got great friends. I got a great family. Would you like to marry me? That's just for that sick shit on me like a like a social media campaign. Put your checklist on on a less, hey, anyone that fits. Looking looking person, it's not miss missing, missing personal or but like searching. Frank's got an amber alert out for his heart right now. Nobody knows where it. Here's a question for your Frank in the last couple years is the last time went for girl didn't get her and. Let's say fits most the categories that you say many times widened, she why? Why weren't you successful? That was the case. I don't know maybe because I'm gli. No, I really don't think that's it. There was one big denial there along the way. Really put myself out there once I have. I, I don't know. I haven't really told you guys about this, Alex kinda knows, but I threw big one out there and got a. A hard? No. Yeah, that one hurts. I don't quite know what you're actually I told you about this having like maybe year two years ago, man, it was a year ago, although. Yeah. Okay. I do know what you're talking about. Yeah, I do. I threw that one out there through that one out there. Hard confidence. I was confident about it. I don't know, said other said. Individual has a pretty serious significant other. Now I'm intend to believe. Know it's on sheep. They're not married. I don't care. Alex is what do you do. That's like a circumstance. What are you supposed to do you put yourself out there? They say, no. Take one on the Channon. You can't move as another. Another say'must man. Thomas wing once said master Bruce, it's not about how hard we fall. It's about how quickly we can pick ourselves backed up. I've got a ruby. I've got a ruby. This is of Chander in so. Attention. I down to grow some balls. It's got that got some thick fucking falls, crate Frank put them to use them for God's sakes. Yeah, that maybe wouldn't have to do. Yeah. My confidence back man like companies to find my mood. Worry about other people with a think like yours and you go. Fuck. Can you go Mike, if he hasn't ever secret sauce left from Space Jam that might help. Needs. Jordan as you ring man, the stuff. All right. Oh, no, I've lost my marriage. Joe. A Spencer. This is Dylan here you call right as we're starting to record our our podcast. So right now we're actually you're literally being recorded. Apologies will. I'm very humbled podcast. This is purely by chance. I didn't think I get the opportunity. People loved you last time they actually did know. Oh, yeah, you guys need to get out of there. Man. I literally just came to Frank like five minutes ago, not five minutes ago, but a couple of minutes ago. And I said, dude, apparently we might lose power for three to four days. Let's get the hell outta mash. I just watched CNN which I know is fake news, but they're talking about how they're running out. All the likes. Turn out. People aren't gonna have Scurr not like what? Stern a, yeah. What is that stern? I was like, you know what? They put onto the as in the morning and go soon out for drag as it gives them more. Never use that, but that's where they're running out of that. It's gelatinous fuel, fuel source. I mean, I wouldn't bought some stuff, but the thought of no power forty nine floors up in the air with elevators. Now, working for three to four days, a terrifying thought, dude. I had no car for like eight hours. I had no internet for twenty minutes about is going to. Like when the option of driving six hours to Nashville, Tennessee and actually enjoying the weekend is an option. I feel like taken no-brainer. I wanted to ride it out. But the power thing is I want to see hurricane like hurricane surroundings is actually like, so do I. So I. So I. A hurricane in in New York? The big one. Harvey ongoing, no. Harvey was Tuesday Irma or not. I don't know. I don't know. There's too many names. I slide that one. It was not fun. What was it like? Elsia boring. Like, did you lose power. Now. 'cause I live in a hospital. You've never lose power to live by hospital. We live pretty close to a house by three or four miles, not even I'm talking about across the street that's power on for you. How do they seem to keep the power on for hospitals for everywhere? Just generators, but that will about it's like it's like the priority of where they gonna get it back on the first place to do it. Do you know what else they're running out of here? I was at target this morning. All the Brad was gone fake for you. Like why branding pattern pre-workout, though? You're gonna laugh at this. I bought twelve Rockin and refuels yesterday, which is a pro team. Nothing like being all amp to go sit in your apartment tower before to. Yeah, I want that. That can't happen. Spence is a pretty good Airbnb and Nashville. If you wanna make the trip, how far is the drive from Seattle? It's more of a flight destination. I want to eighteen hour twenty hour drive. Eighteen hours to LA dude. It's way further than that. Shit. I'm teething. Yeah, that sucks ass. What are for on. I'm going to actually check this out. I wanna know how far it is. It just get on the road. Now if we do, it'll be smart survive the riots. I think j lamb still brings up and we had the protest party in what he asked me about it. I was like, oh, sorry, I thought you were protesting. That was awesome. It was a rough riders video down the streets? Yes, Frank. Gus, how far the drive is from Seattle to Nashville? I looked it up twenty seven hours expense you ever guess double that thirty five to on road now, man, you can meet its there by Friday night, a four hour flight. I did it two months ago. You think Nashville is a good idea, then absolute. Hotel? Where'd you say. Oh, state at the Thomson, the Thomson tell. A look at not. It's not bite on Broadway, but it's kind of either cynics reconduct member when you guys got that Airbnb in Charleston. When we left because of the riots here and we get there and it was literally three hundred square aides and haunted. The bathroom. The pather was like five feet wide. Terrible. It really was just walked. Yeah, this isn't going to happen. We have to human beings, double the size of human being. Someone who was like one point five times. So apps about Franklin shit. Hey. We'll get there Friday. We would leave Thursday, right? Yeah. I think the storms are supposed to hit like Saturday morning. That's what I was seeing will the wind. The wind stuff is was here Thursday of, okay, I'm gonna leave whenever I guess infringing casually can send you direction to link up. They hot actually, yes expense. I'm sure you didn't listen to the most recent show. Frank is now on official quest for his dream girl dream girl figured that me thrown out podcasts and telling me money, but I'm not that good looking is the best way to attract the right woman self-deprecation. Yes. Hey, it's humbling girls like girls like humble men too. Now, noses like that. Brought your nose is just as big as mind that fucking thing. It takes up the whole screen. Zoomed in. I remember there was a couple of times and you guys when you come to our apartment, Spencer you guys look at each other and go, you are one ugly while they're fucking. Secure there. Same cloth it's the polish. Just like it was just such a way to greet each other by just telling the other one. It's like Spiderman leave. Kind of is. Over the pointing at each other. Have fun a national. I'm back working out. Good luck Iran, thanks for calling letter. Of course. Our goal is to get to Nashville and get out of the hurricane. But personally, I don't think it's necessary, but I've never been to Nashville so we need to get the hell out of here. Well, no, you know my theory. What's your theory that the Weather Channel over predicts these. Hurricanes for this rounding areas, of course, so that everyone involved or everyone in the area has to watch the Weather Channel for updates in stay connected to their phones in the weather people. It's their Super Bowl, whoever is doing Weather Channel expert in South Carolina, North Carolina. This is their Super Bowl. Yeah. I mean, the projections are so insanely high when it comes to rain that even if you cut it in half, it's still insanely. I six feet possibly six feet of rain. I mean, that is even if it's three feet of rain that is a crazy amount. And do you really want to be stuck forty, nine floors up in the air with no power, no AC. No internet, no. I don't know nothing to cook with no ovens, no stoves. We haven't electric stove by the way. So the stoves out of the question, if it was a gas stove than I mean, we'd be fine. Watcher stuff. We have a poncho. Yeah, which doesn't mean shit when you're indoor feel like I could just like get a fortnight. Glider jump off our building and just fly around. That'd be pretty cool. No, no, that that's a really cool idea in your dreams. But in reality, I don't know about that. It's like the fortnight storm. If you stay in too long, it's going to kill you, hey, let me tell you this. Do you know when people get Snowden and there's blizzards right now and it's like, oh, they got two feet of snow. No. Did you know put in perspective how much rain six feet of rain is if you have one inch of rain. Yeah, keep talking if you have one inch of rain that is the equivalent of ten inches of snow. No, it's yes. It is. Yes, it was lying dude. Is that because expands. No, it's how to calculate Ramos knows dot com. Science dot com. CNBC science dot com. It sounds liberal that sound. It just seems like scientific facts. I don't think there's politics behind it, but that would be sixty inches tell that it's way hold on how many, how many feet of snow would that be? What what are we supposed to get? Like possibly six feet of rain. So six feet times twelve times ten. Yeah, so six times twelve times ten that's made up number? No. That would be sixty feet of snow. That's. No, that is how much rain it is. No, it doesn't happen because how come there's never been a blizzard. Is there ever been a blizzard that ban? No, because everywhere that hurricanes hit for the most part is warm areas. Right? It's next to the coast like New York, but blizzards form hurricanes hit through like warm weather, right? Like it has to be warm. I don't. How the hell does took meteorology. And the only thing I know is air loft, which I know warm air loft somewhere creates some sort of. Balanced to where you can have that much water in the atmosphere. But over the states actually overland, you can't have that much water up there in the clouds. I don't even know what to call. I sound really dumb saying, but I'm not a meteorologist on os at hurricanes. Don't really hit word snows, especially during a time where areas or cold enough taps. It's funny you can like we're looking out of our window right now and we have a view of do can build this whole city on cost. I don't know. It's a made up number of money that it costs to build this place. Now it's a real number, but we don't have it. Mother earth can just be like, fuck you comes a hurricane. Yeah, and potentially all this could just be gone. That's why they say never mess with mother, nature. Mother nature is very powerful may nature's dream women. Yeah, she would pardon my French. Fuck you real good. All the time she she would be. She says, she has no mercy. She mother nature can be really nice. She's got great, beautiful days. But then sometimes she's a hurricane. So maybe like I said, mother nature's moody, she's she's normal, but a little crazy. So I mean, they don't have in little crazy. They don't have pills for mother nature. No, they don't. There's no apologies to mother nature know unforgiving. No, she will come in record. Is it gonna exist? Okay. So we're literally taking your quest for your dream woman and comparing it to mother nature. Now, I'm I'm open to anything. She's got to be out there somewhere. You're like Michael Scott right now when him and Jan break-up and he's like, I'm desperate. I want you to write a name on that no card and give it to me by the end of the day, or you are fired, Wendy juicy, redhead, dude, this is a went, all right, frosty baked potato. They'll have someone come pick it up. It's ready for you. We'll just put it out a frosty and a big potato. That's Michael Scott gets. That's your like what? He's just like, I'm getting desperate. I'm not getting desperate now. I'm I really wanna know, is it out there? Yeah. Maybe maybe when we go to Nashville. I'm pretty now set. I'm going to Nashville because say what you will about the winds, say what you will about the rain. I don't really care about that stuff because we are high in. We're in a secure building, and I don't think I don't think it's going to happen, but here's that I lose electricity's. I lose wifi. I lose internet. I lose TV. No, I think about that. No, no, no. The elevators would breakdown, right? They wouldn't work. I find myself inside of his apartment. I'm saying, even if you had to take the stairs, it would be pitch black in the stairs. Did you think about lights that runaway traitor, probably if not the flashlight on my phone. Yeah, you're right. That's true. But you're foam apply be dead by the time we needed to use. I could brave a hurricane more so than most people though I consider myself survivor man place. One of my many endear endearing qualities in for perspective women out there. I am a survivor. Is that one ear, redeeming qualities or survivor? You're like Jack Dawson when he's like, I'm a survivor rose dads who I am Jack Dawson, Jack Dawson, but I'm Richard, the most did mail of all time who would give give his life or Jack often. He met two days ago and I'm Jack Dawson, but I'm not broke. I would never. I would be in the high class play poker Titanic butts. I'm also is fun where I could go to those under boat prohibition parties and. I'm not that handsome though. Which sex? 'cause Leo's great looking dude sound like you said Sachs, which sacks sucks. But yeah. Okay. So you are now Jack Dawson. We should ask people who would they rather data picture of you or picture of Jack Dawson. Are they going to do that? Well, then you're gonna find out who actually cares about the way the person looks versus. Gotta, say pros and cons. You gotta say one has money. One is poor. I think really good-looking one is really looking. I think you're being a little too hard on yourself. Your appearance is not that bad. It's a big deal down saying, okay, we're not talking about freshman year. We're a girl told me that I was ugliest human beings. She's ever seen in her entire life in not much as changed since how ugly was she. She actually was pretty hot. But once we got the high school, she. Something happened. She became a man, no. Well. You want to send it to become a man by what? Inserting, what's enough men. What we talking about. I don't know. What are you talking about? I don't know. She became a whole okay serving. Oh, I thought you meant she wasn't. She became a whole, okay. I don't know how to say that any less do I know who she is probably, but we're not gonna talk about this right now because there's no defamation going on whatsoever. In this podcast, is me defaming myself. Would you banger not anymore? She was not. She does not. There was a period of time where it would have been probably the best thing that's ever happened to me, but what are the odds? I know her one hundred percent. Can you write it down? Oh. Let's. I really don't know what else to move onto. So we're going to Nashville. I'm gonna find the love of my life. She's gonna come back with us here. She's going to live with us and we're gonna live happily forever after they have it done, boom, hurricane. Thank you. Hi. The. 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I'm sure. Gotta do what all the to do is listen to the free show on the video cast. If you don't know what we're talking about folks, Phil just made an executive decision and you're smiling. Why I missed interested with how you get yourself out of these things pretty interesting the lead who it is. Just what I told you those people listening. No, there's a bunch of people listening to what you're talking about. Okay. Subscribers to the website, get a pre show. So what that means? Is we roll tape as soon as we sit down in the studio, we roll table. We start our video cast. So we're here, and I'm going through all of the prep, the pre prep stuff, you know? Now, this is gonna take long mortgage. Just very talk yet. May it may take all show Margaret, and no you don't get to get up and leave. All right filling. Great. So let them in don't lecture me, please. Yeah. It may take all night. I get it. Okay. But I call my husband. No, you may not go I take direction from till? Thank you very much. Robert. No, do you wanna call your husband for because I'd like to complain to him. Oh, you'll give me a break. General now come on fills got a certain thing, you gotta call Frank and do what have a labor discussed? She's Margaret give it a rest. We had just I'm gonna tell people what I need to tell them when you say give it a rest, and then you glance down. Oh my gosh. Zinc. She talked about her ass, but low I think it means sit my big ass down. I never said it what the hell are you on a fire? You for that? I think you're gonna fire you for that for what I glance. Glanced at anything. I thought you take it easy. What a bunch of ladies, these lightweights, all these men. All ooh. All these men getting the fifth. Go ahead filled. Say what you need to say some coffee, MS great. Yes, I'd like no sit everybody sit down. All I'm saying this won't take long. All I'm saying, you said, it'd take all night. It may still take all night. Come on. Does. He may mean it all right on obscene is that. When I start the show, I roll tape, and this is called the pre show, and or subscribers get this only not just general listeners, but people subscribe to our website who have ESPN, and you can do that Phil Hendrie show dot com. That's filling Bichon dot com. Now. On today's pre show, and when you're doing prep work when you're preparing yes, it's gonna take a long time. Margaret and bud. Just a lot of insight baseball. I don't care. I don't care if it's inside baseball. Anybody else? So when you're prepping to show. What are you looking at? You're sitting there with one finger up your nose. Okay. I had an inch try to do it and distract you Mr. Andrew, I got don't tell him. What I'm doing? Everybody quiet or I'll clear the studio for good. Go ahead. So when you sit down your when I sit down here start to prep the show, and there's all different ways that you prepa show. But one of the things you have to do when you are preparing or prepping anything when you are prepping anything artistic whether it's a book, whether it's a poem with it's a show, whether it's an acting anything you have to open up all of the spigots and let it all come out. You gotta let everything come out unedited. This is part of what is known as as has been laid down in print recently the artist's way over the book. Yes, there was a book written. But it is true. And then you go back, and yet it well, one of the things that you do is you let the whatever's bugging you and what was bugging me today. Was political in nature. So what happened was I noticed that? I had an opportunity that I really give myself. You know, what I don't want people who get upset with me going off on politics. I don't want to get upset. I'd rather they not even here this. So we did not put the the pre show on audio. It's only on the video cast. So those of you who are listening to our for instance, our podcast today. You're listening to it by way of an audio track. Probably on podcast one. Maybe on the website. Maybe you're hearing at soundcloud who knows but our subscribers have another option they can watch the video and here it there as well. And that's where we put our pre show today. It is only available on the video cast, and therefore you have to seek it out. And listen to it there. If you really wanna hear me getting all upset about politics. She'll says that because he has a decidedly would you say liberal? Let me just say this. I got a point of view this. Sidedly opposed to a lot of points of view. It probably will piss people off and believe me. I'm not alone. I see people saying this on Twitter, and it happens. You get the note from just stick to the funny stuff. Don't do the comedy don't do politics, which I don't believe in as a citizen of the country. See your president? What are you talking about? No, I didn't. I mean, I was wasn't saying that was sit out you throw weight. So I as a citizen, I'm gonna say stuff everybody does there isn't a human being in this country that doesn't express themself when it comes to politics, in some way, shape or form. I do. And maybe because I have a public position like this. Maybe I get an opportunity to say more. But hey, guess what? I get an opportunity Celica asshole more. If you wanna look at it that way. Well, that is a good point. Yeah. So people are opposed. What you say? At least you could save them. Well, look, I get a chance to to be wrong and sound like a jackass a lot more than most people. Exactly. And that doesn't bother you. No, no. It doesn't bother me. It does if from wrong, I'm wrong. But the fact is I want to say what I want to say. But I don't want people to be the constant God damn. I mean, I get these messages, you know. So here's what I'm doing. If you don't wanna hear it. And you have to be a subscriber because I'm not putting it out here on the on the show. So if you're subscriber, and you don't wanna hear it. Then there is no pre show for you today because that's all the pre show was oh, you should have heard it too. He was bad. He was gay. Hey, hey, hey, hey, man. Don't give it away give it away. Just don't mention it. Yeah. You were going on about putting much nonstop. Okay. Thank you. We got it. So it's only on the video cast. And if you want to hear if you wanna hear it, you gotta see the video cast from today's show, and it's filling ratio dot com. Phil NB showed I come. And by the way, as I mentioned, we do have subscriptions to our website available. We have a lot of live events that we're going to be planning. We're going to be planning remotes that will be exclusive to our website. In other words, they will be Facebook live, generally when we go out someplace like, for instance, when we were in Mexico a few weeks ago, we did our. ESP chat, by way of Facebook live. When we were up at I don't know, we were Spanish hills country club for dinner one night. And we couldn't get back because it was a special dinner that they were celebrating. We did it by way of Facebook live. Now, what we're going to be doing is having these strictly on the website. So that we can make all of our BSP chats these subscribers only. Yeah. Because I got a lot of people saying, you know, they stopped me on the street. Oh, here you go again with stopping on the street, by the way, I addressed that on my Twitter feed out, the the new you talked about that you did you mean like how I don't know what you're talking about right now. Wait a minute. What did you address the fact that everyone I say people stuck the on the street and people think I'm full of crap. So people stopped the under street and people stopped you on the street about what people stopped me on the street, and they say what gives Henry and the Facebook live when if I was a subscription, or whatever you call me, a BPS BSP. How come I don't get to are these people subscribers? No. But they're saying if I was and they stop you on the streak. What is it? What you people? Anyway, general. It is very unlikely you'll live in palace Verdes. What street are they stop you on? I was on dilemma, oh, you're on dilemma boulevard. Yes. Walking down the street whistling walking our dog. Dog Ernie who's a little schnauzer and singing a song just needed eternity that people? Oh, hey, general shove. What's Henry is? He got a bug up his ass. You know, and like that. All right. You have to believe. So anyway, they're asking you what they're asking me. They're saying, hey, when are you guys when you do these remotes Huckabee Facebook live, and there's a lot of creeps and stuff. And I said well that don't say that man. Well, you know, that's how I didn't say they did we got a lot of great listeners. And and I'm grateful for everybody. Whether you're subscribe or not, I really am and Facebook live gives us an opportunity to talk to a lot more people than than our subscribers. But we, you know, the show when we're on our website is for subscribers especially when it's behind the the old firewall. So I don't know where where was that Doug about how the back it'd be a pretty show today on audio video. Right. So there will only be appreciation on the video cast today. And we'll try that. So that we don't get, you know, get people up in you know, what would start getting a candy ass about this. You know, Phil people are gonna think you're getting a little soft. You get a tender ass and everything about the run. What about what people are thinking as the boys said that you getting a bit of a tender s. Well, if that's what people are thinking that. Okay that I'll just start doing it. We is talking about bad. I'm what I'm doing is. I'm saying, I know what you're saying is giving you crap basically saying is I don't want people to get upset if we've got political content. It's a bit nutty world. We're limited man. And we gotta nutty country that we're living in and there's all kinds of nutty stuff going down digs. So like that. Yeah. I'd take. Okay. So. We had a goofy freakin tell me about the we got because this kind of gets into what we wanna talk about here. I got done mix on the phone who has done extensive studying on this. Well, here here's the thing. We had a Saturday cinema on Saturday as as fate would have it yet lights called that. I understand that. But being relaxed, bud. We cinema it. I had what's the guy? The kid. Chris know what it says sess yet? Chris start. Oh, my God yet the Bossier. Yeah. We had in the in the ball. And so it was the beach girls in the monster. That was the name of the movie now it turns out that the guy that did the music for the beach girls in the monster was Frank Sinatra junior. And I got to talk to Chris about how Frank Sinatra Judy was kidnapped hoeing. That's right. Yeah. In nineteen sixty three here. Frank Sinatra face, Senator junior. You must be clear, I think I am being all band. This take an easy. I said Frank Sinatra junior. Don't you hear too good? Oh, it said and Frank Sinatra junior at the time was held, you know. Oh my God. He had to be in his early twenties or something like that. Because he died in two thousand sixteen at the was about your brothers age. Let me felt. Yup. Darah and Frank Sinatra junior. I think Princeton juryman about a year older than Dera. But you're right. Yeah. So he, but he passed, but as a young man he was kidnapped and this happened two weeks after county was assassinated and the Sinatra family, of course, was very. Freaked out by this until until four, and you guys had a discussion this that we had a very cursory discussion of the Norton like he's not aware of most things in life. Chris Norton's a little bit of a thick brain a real clown into Claude, but he needs I guess whether he means well or not well Frank Sinatra junior was kidnapped and was held for ransom and Don mix joins us done at one time had an aspiring singing career. He had done mixes gentlemen of sin. What is that? Being just talk about. How the gambling up cat? Just means they gambled. And drank and acted like jackass got done mixing on our newsmaker line from Los Angeles here this evening and don's good to talk with you. Tell me when you had doing his went onto a career as a as a college professor, and you investigative reporting now for us and others when you have this band on you were singing standards and stuff, right? Yeah. Essentially in Philly was abandoned not unlike for instance, that a young Frank Sinatra junior air. The young kids of the day. So it was. Oh, no. I didn't know it wasn't rock and roll a younger, man. This was happening in the nineteen seventies and eighties. This pan. And we follow Frank Sinatra, obviously, Franks was as far as that was concerned one of the if that be greatest popular singer in the history of America and invented much of the phrasing and breezy allergy. And the the. Yeah. The way that we sing is all do to Frank Sinatra here you guys go in Yale time. Where's that come from? It comes from Franken. Tra. What do you mean by that? I mean, every time you hear a Babbitt or sing ago. Did it? Yeah. That's that's a Franks Matra turn. That's frank. Didn't that more than anybody else in bring and day, baby? I got giving example, I got the world on a strings not a Rambo guy. The Dada dot you know, kinda like that. Well, every singer that came along after Frank Sinatra even Bano of YouTube said, hey, I owe it all to Frank. Said that what do you mean horse dung? I remember him saying that when Frank Sinatra died bottle said he said the Frank Sinatra was the coolest of everybody that doesn't mean that he tucked buffalo had a sing. Yes. It does. Because Frank Sinatra when he went, hey, don't, you don't get it to you to be more specific a general. Are you going to be pissing everybody off tonight? What's that mean? What do you seem to be contrary to everyone's opinion journal was trying to bring up some good point. He's he's his goal over the conversation. What is this? Anyway, ganging up on me. Like, you were seems to be like you're being contrary. Your gear bugging me. You're bugging them. There. You got right up into my face. Just spit. It my face and how did he spit in your face you talking about mixing a candy ass. Oh, all right. Everybody cool out go on on. I want you to apologize for that apologize for what for same is at your candy is. Yes. All right now. Where was I I don't know. You were talking about how Frank Sinatra said. Yeah. Frank Sinatra goes, yeah. Yeah. Okay. That's it. General if you don't understand it. I apologize for county. Candy to go ahead. I'm just saying that that was what Frank gave us. I got to you know, when you just. Yeah. I can't describe it. Okay. It's very difficult to describe. And I guess makes me sound like every other guest you have on your show Phil but making vague point. But I'm I'm making. But I think I know what you mean. Frank sinatra. Had a very loose. I like to do it when I sing. I do improvisational lyrics market. I'm not really known excuse me for just a moment. To can. I go ahead when I sing I'll say I've got the the I don't know the lyrics to I've got the world on a string. But this is what I do. I Margaret I know excuse me. But this is what I do. All right. Okay. I've got the world on a string did do. I got the world wrapped around it. See? Yeah. They're laughing while it is funny. What's funny about that? You got the world raptor. See your mind. Goes your mind takes that big turn there's a big ramp. And the sign says gutter, and that's as soon as fills mind sees the offramp to gutter, and it'll say gutter five miles sewer, ten miles the crack of my ass. Brave. I caught market. It doesn't have to be like that. What does that mean? It means this is where your mind goes. So I'm trying to say I got the world on a string lot to dad. You know, when you said that I've got it's wrapped around it. Right. The first thing you thought of was thirty. I didn't say that little wait. Wait, wait, wait. Like if I gotta sit here and pull it while these guys are fighting. You're not having a pull anything I beg your pardon mortga. You're the one that started this whole thing by getting you wanted to make the statement Phil laughs, and you get offended. I don't like his mind getting off on the off ramp. That says gutter sewage in the crack of your ass. I said the crack of my ass, meaning it could be any of you. Speaking of your own ass. If I'm getting off the freeway at the crack of my own passage saying, yes. C J B deal. Oh, big deal. I agree with blood big deal. Big. Wow. We're wasting time. Let's just go to where we're way. What what are you got epilepsy? Because you went what did he what did you do? Just make a little movement with the arms, and they told her. Yes. All right. So done. Welcome to the show. Thank you. Phil. Are you studying? Sorry. Now. You. Let's forget about your band. Let's get the Frank Sinatra junior. That's what you wanted to talk about right? I wanna talk about branks about. I welcome very very appreciative. Hang that. You wanted to talk about the gentlemen of sin. So I just but we did site. It's three in the morning. There's no one in this dump, but you and me set up Joe, I got a little something. I'd like you to know C Frank Sinatra when there's a guy sitting in a barroom, and he's this close to throwing up, but he's talking to the bartender about how much he lost the love of beautiful gal. And he sent him. Hey, you know, what even though I'm close to a fire hose of on it. I mean the thing about this. Because this is this is the beautiful Johnny Mercer sign that Franken answer lane battle a light length to it. Yes fame. Yeah. Let's do nothing man. But you're getting real up there into the puke range on time till Frank Sinatra is sitting by three in the morning. There's no one in the dump. But you and me here's a guy that just is soon go outside and puke into the gutter and getting his car and go home, but he he's not gonna do it. Because he wants to talk to the bartender about this girl at broke, his heart. And he says set him up Joe meaningless have one more round. So that he'll finish his drink. Tell Joe the story get into his car. And Dr hit on into a school bus. I I guess that's. Yeah. What does that mean? I didn't. I wasn't carrying it out as far as I should have. Okay. So that was Johnny Mercer. Frank Sinatra next great now onto the story anyway in nineteen sixty three francs nitric junior was kidnapped by a couple of punks one of whom was a guy that they say was a devout Catholic. Now, this guy was berry Worthington Clinton, devout Catholic. Yeah, they they said he was an alcoholic drug addict. And a devout Catholic. He was the ringleader he was twenty three years of age. So I guess he would have been around to Frank Sinatra junior these nineteen Frank Sinatra. Jim was nineteen in nineteen forty sixty frankly was probably a year younger than your brother was. So dare would have been you're older than him. Okay. So nineteen years of age. He was held for fifty four hours by this group clowns that kidnapped him outside of his hotel room in Lake Tahoe. They allowed Frank Sinatra junior to college fanny, Franken Andrea and you're getting a high range there. They alab Frank Sinatra junior to collies fodder and these with his father for few minutes. And then the kidnappers said that they wanted to hundred and forty thousand dollars as a ransom. The words were what they said to Frank Sinatra. I don't know, but they don't survive, but one can well imagine, I think we could reconstruct it from how it probably went something like you ever want to see your son alive again pops. They probably something like that. We need to hundred and forty thousand dollars anything cute any dies. So you think that's what they said. Yeah, I say I would assume a movie I understand general that because it was used in the film. It probably wasn't us. In real life. But why wouldn't they why would they say that in movies unless it actually then used in real life? I don't think it's important to know. What was said does sound cliche? If you ever wanna see your son live, again, you'll get I I'm just imagining that that's what they what else would they have said. Who knows? I mean, they've who knows who knows. Hey, you know, we're starting off another week here. And we're starting off the wrong foot. And I would simply suggest this to you. Don that you just give us the story. And then we can come in on it. That's what are you all of a sudden hosting the show now, I agree with the general. All right. That's what I'm doing. Okay. Forget about what he said. Okay. Well, that's the one who said I think it's a good question that what what was communicated to Frank Sinatra on the phone that day, your son has been kidnapped. We want to and forty thousand dollars. Probably something as dry as that. Yes. Hell of Sinatra. You don't need to know who I am whatever your sense kidnapped. We went to and forty thousand dollars by three wasn't going. Through it that. And then click what then the guy goes straight and gets himself a tasty rains her there. He quaint donelson family. Would you do something like swallow or blow your nose because it's getting it's getting difficult to understand you now. Now, let me just daisy gimme a Cup of tangerine juice. You know, tangerine juice, not lemon juice where where are you right now? I like food court. Okay. What who cares where I am? Just wondering, you know, you're talking to somebody date. I said paint green juice. Why you give me orange juice? What one's a tangent. In the excuse me for mad Phil we get done mix on the line tangerine, the others in orange, and he's talking with us about Frank Sinatra junior and the when he was kidnapped back in nineteen sixty three and a tannery. And a tangerine attained what's going on. I don't know dawn, wait a minute you attend renews. It's about this big. What did you say? I'm leaving. What happened Jeep, Dave? They got a real smart mouth over here. I said it's about this big. And she said, oh, you mean like the size of your head? I so done. I don't want you to get in any trouble. Trouble on finance. I asked for some I so Erwin clause here. Here's how it went down Ville. Because but ask the question to ask 'em Keenan's adult bind the kidnapping would be redemptive for all parties kind of unlawful satisfaction on December the eight the Sunday night he and a high school friend nap Sinatra junior while he was sitting in his underwear eating chicken fi at a Lake Tahoe hotel. Now, he certainly did that he decided on Frank junior because Frank senior was tough, and he had friends his pants were in show business. I knew Franco's always got his way. And it would it wouldn't be morally wrong to put him through a few hours a grave wearing about his son. And that was how it was, you know, he briefly entertained kidnapping, Bob Hope son, but that that would be on American. So he explained it he convinced himself the kidnapping was an act of goodwill. That would bring the strange Sinatra family back together in foster a ransom that could save his own family from financial ruin pieces Christ are you reading that for the first time. Yeah, I said I was going to do research. But I didn't actually just Xerox. This look at this. Nice going. I mean, it's just it's it's interesting. This is the Washington Post reconstructing this bizarre saga through an interview with Keenan in nineteen ninety eight he convinced himself the kidnapping was an act of goodwill. That would bring the strange these strange Sinatra family. Franks strange then time anyway, the kidnapping might be redemptive for all parties. Nonetheless, the kidnappers. Let me see your to do some editing us, Phil. I know that I about that. It went down is this the kidnappers grab Franks Matra junior while he's sitting in his underwear eating chicken final Lake Tahoe. Tell where. Yeah. He was inside the hotel room and the operation climax the next day with a phone call Frank Sinatra senior who is camping hotel and arena where the FBI the kidnappers told him to answer a phone at a Chevron in Carson city. So they negotiate terms release. John Irwin Keenan's mother's boyfriend. Did the calling you'll strap story published two months before Sinatra seniors death recounts, the bizarre scenario strap Peter Gill's trappers reporter for the Washington Post. Okay. Erwin caused the station in fifteen minutes is Frank Sinatra there, the Chevron man answers. No, click Irwin calls back. The second time is Frank Sinatra there, the Sheremet, listen, buddy. I'm working on a car. I don't have time to play around. Don't come again. Irwin calls with third time is facts Matra, their Chevron knit, listen Powell, Mr. Sinatra's, not habit of taking his calls at the Chevron station seconds after he hangs up a black car peels into this patient break screeching to haul the passenger doors. Flung open a man bounce out brilliant, blue blue eyes ablaze he runs up grabs. The slack jawed at ten front of his shirt. I'm Frank Sinatra. Have I had any calls Irwin? 'cause one more time in a panic. Symmetric grips the phone in the conversation goes something like this is a good thing. He called again. So this was three four times. Yeah. This with the fourth time, and listen pal Mr. Sinatra's that used to. I don't know if that is exactly what the guy said that sounds like some out of a movie. Yeah. Maybe he reconstructed that way. But nonetheless, he's I'm Frank Sinatra. The guy says panic symmetric grips of the goes like this. What do you want money? Of course comes the response. How much you'll give you a million dollars? Even let my son go. We don't. Need a million dollars? I'll tell you how much we need tomorrow. Can I talk to my son a conversation Sousa consists of you? All right. Yeah. And then click. Jazzed on Pirka, Dan, Coca Cola and no sleep for two days. Teen proceeds to drive back to Lake Tahoe. In a rented in Palo. He's straps. Gays on the roof for winter tourists defect. He cleans the hotel room pays completes the smokescreen by going skiing once down the bunny slope, he's bound to LA MENA kidnappers scatter. There's scooped up by thorns soon. After the cups figure this out. I don't know it probably just unraveled very quickly. Do you think well after a four week trial during doesn't say, but they rounded them up after four week trial during which Sinatra junior admitted on the stand that he hoped they would get away with it Canaan was how about that. What does that mean? Spor this strange family. That's why a lot of people thought the Frank Sinatra junior planned us out himself. That planned it out. But they thought he had something to do with. Yeah. They thought he was a confederate if you will. It's a wild story, really wild and wiles. Can you learn thanks? Yeah. That's right. I learned how to say wild from Franklin Africa. Boy, I hate you so much ticket easy. So now it says here that Keenan was sentenced to twelve years in prison. He got out after only four and a half by nineteen ninety three after life threatening encounters with pills and booze. He had made millions in real estate as of nineteen ninety eight. He was living in Texas with a farm in Mississippi. And see what else would afar Mississippi and an apartment in Los Angeles as for that your junior hundred by false rumors that he rigs zone kidnapping he rarely if ever spoke of the incident, former Washington Post reporter will hey good profile them in two thousand six in Atlantic City as van imbued and haunted by the spirit of his ultra famous father. Stood out. It's funny. How quickly the cops are able to figure out who's was did them. There's nothing in the story that indicates that no because you know, this took place so long ago. I have not exactly sure. But I do remember these guys coming being becoming into the into the public eye as nothing, but a bunch of clowns, you punks and grapes. And one of them was the boyfriend of the guys father are the guys mother. So yet a stepfather was a real creep hoping was a bunch of punks. Well, thanks, let done wait. Are you the host of the show done because the whole thing's the editing that I'm gonna have to do on this fell. I was trying to do the best. I could with what I got. And. And. And doing that scroll thing. It's thanks a lot done. I was only trying to Don mix on the world famous fill reshow. Well, even with all the entity and you have to do. It's an interesting story. That says France Notre junior was hoping they'd get away with it. Get the family was a strange and everything he's thinking. Yeah. You know, my hate my dad and everything like that. Well, say hate his dad, man. But he's like he's hoping gentle way. Would it? What does that mean? He's hoping they'd get away with it as he would they get the money, and they would never be caught. Yeah. Well, if that dude got out of prison after four and a half years and went onto make all this millions in real estate. I sounds to me like you've got away with it somehow, someway, or or he redeemed his life. Well, that is the way a lot of these stories should end I got out of prison, and I became a millionaire and I never offended again. Gab? Do you wanna be millionaire? Well, I tell you this much, bud. If it meant that they were never going to be criminals again. Yes. I hope everyone. Can be millionaire. I'm market gray. Well. Mean? Well, who knows if that's possible? I actually of Jay Santos possible. By look at Frank. We live in wealth. I don't know about you fill about to tell you about how about you general, none of your business. All right. That's one of us up. Thanks very much market coming up. We've got Jay Santa's along with dean Wheeler and an encounter. 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When did you start this show is August of nineteen ninety August of nineteen ninety the version of the Phil Hendrie show that we know today started. And then I I went to Atlanta in the spring of ninety two and I left to go to Minnesota in the spring of ninety three and then in the spring of ninety four want to buy me. Yes. So I spent roughly a year in Atlanta and Minnesota then in ninety four went to Miami. I was there for two and a half years from ninety four through the fall of ninety six and then went to Los Angeles in October of ninety six then then he got Nancy syndicated, then we got nationally syndicated in nineteen nine. Eighty six and then the the deal ended in two thousand six then the deal. Let's go through the whole thing. Okay. So yeah. That is the and then since then we've been digital pretty much since. Well, there was an interlude there. We won't go into that. So we've been digital since around two thousand thirteen right on the phone with me here on the world famous. Phil Emery show is dean Wheeler Dina's at the Wheeler resort in Nevada, California. But it's been awhile since we've talked to you know, that the getting to resort season. So you're going to be getting your place ready to go for rate. Maeve your customers. We are. This is a exciting time of year. Anytime you own a hotel, of course, as you get into the spring months here in California and the summer months, I have been happily running this resort for a number of years. We also have man camp. So we've taken what we've learned in the holistic healing field and apply them to the resort business and to the spa business. And it's still a challenge because I'm also still managing as Morillas career. So you're still with emerald. Well, guess what she wants to change your name to as morale. And I've I've said that I will use it on the air. But I reserve the right to I do I reserve the right to comment on it emerald is change your name to it. She is she says it's more common and people mistaker for as Morell to anyway. And she got very frustrated, and she said, I wanna change it as Morella. I think she needs to keep morale here that Honey Margaret grey. Let me talk to her as I mean, emerald never mind. I don't wanna talk to her. She doesn't really respect your opinion. And you don't do. Oh, she doesn't. He doesn't. I don't know why. But well, that's a new on me. When did you stop respecting, MS grey opinion? He's shrugging her shoulders. She's eating a big hunk. What he's eating. Where'd you get the big hunk have some can I have some. Okay, dean. Thank you very much for that. Well, I mean, she's eating a big hunk. It's that big taffy Tenny bar will what would you said to her that? That says she doesn't respect me respect, Margaret great. Yeah. She keeps shrugging her shoulders because she can't open her mouth because it's it's jammed together with big hunk. So this is this is your wife, not your daughter. Yes. Here that Mr. Henry know, what do you mean? I know did you hear that? But dean, this is the wife that is singing out guess, she's got a singing career. And she's sitting there toned down on a big hunk and has even got a few words from arguments to why she doesn't respect her have anything to say to Margaret great as the why? Now, she just flipped. She flipped me off got damn Honey she's going into the next room. All right. Well, now, I know how it is. She's eating a big hunk. Y'all bet she is. Did you hear that one Honey? Okay. Dean. Let's get a fight going. She said I'll bet she is eaten a big hunk. Now. She's pointing at her. You're putting your crotch do. I hang up or do we talk? I'm sorry, dean whaler. Now, y'all know what's going on? Dean wheelers house there, folks. Childishness starting by me. I don't think it was the only question we had is why she was change your name as Baroda because she thinks it's more common. To buy please. Don't. I don't know. What's wrong with you, man? But you better get it under control, just my wife changing our name. Okay. And then I've got the situation with Santa's. But what happened with Jay Santos was that he posted something on Twitter a new citizens police logo that you made fun of all I said was big whoop. He put up his logo the new logo. And I went big weapon. And he goes, you got something to beat it. So I cooked up one real fast using a gif app that I got I saw that. When you put big goggles on your is. Yeah, I put on big funny glasses. I went here. We and he said something then he read me, he said, you know, what it'll save me from a homicide charge saying what I really what? Yeah. That's what happened yet pretty much that way. And all I wanted to say was big whip. Who cares? You've got the citizens police logo. And this is brought you to this level of tension. Well, I've got a fight going on with him. I got a wife that's changing her name from Morella which was a beautifully unique name to as morale. Ova? She's sitting there challen down on a big hunk. And look at me. And I I know what that means. And what do you are you you think that means something are you kidding me? What what are you talking about the big hunk if I'm not mistaken? It's a candy bar, right? Bar a big hung. What do you think that means man? I think what it may. It's commentary. Never mind. Just just never mind. Don't you just never mind? Honey, never mind never mind. Ding. On the phone with us from the citizens. Very place is Jay Santos. Brooke? Shannon's joining us from these citizens auxiliary police on the line with us, and we have dean Wheeler also J. So you rolled out a new logo? Go we Tuesday about half past. I mean, I don't know. I'm trying try. Remember it and dean you made fun of it. Well, I did I came on online. He said. Yeah. Something like that. You're saying is you know, I'm very Protestant logo. Well, it was a gift it showed flowing love behind the citizens police logo. And I thought it was a bit aggressive. Okay. You aggressive. I mean that's pre as scanners for liberals. You know? Okay. So it was a liberal. And what was said so you rolled out the new logo Jason. But I give them then. I went. Yeah. Yeah. Very proud of that. What did you say that? I that. I posted big look, you know, you put big whoop. Yeah. Big whoop. I said you to beat it. And I and I said, I what I said. But I said. Yeah. I did and getting posted picture of of shelf ware. I'm being like goggles like big Gook doodoo is. And I'm like, are you serious? I said, oh, I said, oh, you I you look Martian goes you look Martian because he thinking fun of that. And I made some wise crack about that. And. Yeah. And then I say save me from a homicide charge. So you guys had some childish dispute on on a Twitter about this. Well, childish I mean, we're talking very very seriously. I don't think I don't think you understand what we're saying here. Phil he ruled out a logo that was violent that was very sort of a police state logo that I found really offensive you pay. I I said to you know, what do you know about it? You know, being like Indio? Yeah. I I don't do go anymore here. He's still into yoga. No, I'm not doing yoga because it was a bomb. It stiffed. Obviously. Right. I think it pissed off about yoga piss off about. Pissed off about anything. What you said you were pissed off about as Morella. Yes. About him around. But I'm not no more. I mean, not you even don't know how to talk good. I don't know how to I think both you guys ought to be ashamed yourselves. It's no big thing. And in fact, what are you? That we should be ashamed of ourselves. I down a logo, and he goes big wolf, that's all I said, this is not a conversation worthy of public interest. You two guys going back and forth about a stupid gift logo. And the one you sent back to dean with you at the big Google is what are those? Anyway, they were glasses. They were goo goo goo guy glasses or whatever you call them. Yeah. But I show I said you like give you come from ours. And I and I made a crack, and he said, you know, it'll save me from a homicide. He got pretty violent pretty fast. See this is what's going on in this country. This is I began the show by saying, you know, I I have certain opinions. Everybody's pissed off. Everyone is getting polarized along these ridiculous lines. Who is getting polarized about? What took two guys screwing around with gifts. What are the Hodie column? What looks like there's lavish porn out of the guys is not down at my eyes. He's behind a logo difference doesn't make then the other guys got one where he's got these big bulbous glasses on and you guys are any others throats. I think you know, what a man is trying to struggle on a business and trying to get a business. You know, you realized that this is part of what's wrong strain. Or you said it everybody getting chicken chicken Steph fights, all I said was big whoop. Hey, we just can't keep your mouth shut one that you could have done j you just ignored him in what way. But if he said big whoop, don't say anything. Yeah. Easier shed and done. No. I don't think it's easy. I think it's very easy. Just ignore the comment and don't say anything. Why don't you do that? Oh here we go pretend like he's getting the police call track he had a female. When did you say, I said, you're pretending you have a police call all you do you just doing that? Right now, not always eight, Jerry. Turn painting. Yeah. That's what you did. You went teaming seaman seaman. I didn't say that forget what he's doing there with us right now as we get to the end of our ropes here on the show today. Let's just say this this seems like a problem that you got Jay more that you've got dean more than Jay Scott because you have this wife changing her name, what her professional career is going to be like people giving you crap online. You can't leave well enough alone. And j you reacting to the taught from dean, I feel like I'm a father or some guy running a picnic or a kid's birthday party trying to separate you guys. I think very unfair. Mr. Henry, all I said was big whoop because he thought his big cop logo was so big. I I was proud of our logo. I like it. You said earlier Mr. Andrew about how Twitter and Facebook debates are really pointless. I think they are proved a point by pointing to him. Dean, your wife is angering you. She was sucking on a big hunker, whatever and that pissed you off. And now you taking out at everyone. Your wife was eating a big hub, truly your business. I'm not that if your wife sitting there trying to a big here's the thing. Big hunks are really tough taffy and a vital and them you have to wash on them, and it's called big hunk. So I sorta understand you understand where he's coming from outside. Kind of see even you understand. I do because I had counter with my wife, and my girlfriend, and I think both you guys oughta go to jail for being so lame. It's beyond belief, and that you should follow been Henry for having him on the show. I had him on the show because we're talking about they were talking about some dispute over a logo quickly escalated in. Big hunk. I didn't wanna bring up the idea the big home. But she's looking at me. Thanks, folks. And what do you do you get thanks, folks? And welcome to the week Jesus Christ that unraveled so fast it unraveled so fast. I'm not sure what's it supposed to be a tortilla? Or was it was it a burrito. Cows attach a lot of was a Tamale what not rolling? Do me a favor will you? But what don't get the show material from Twitter? If you don't mind seems like a pretty done it in an don't whatever they're getting into a run Twitter on. I don't wanna know about it, man. She was sitting there lip and a big hunk. If you've had a big hope. Yes, I've had a big hunk when the last big car was twelve okay? It's taffy. It's a candy bar probably rot your teeth right out of your head probably responsible for cracking more teeth. Well, what is it is it difficult about the most difficult canny body in the history of the world. Yeah. Because it's been a hard hard, taffy or or whatever. And so as Burrell to our Morella is sitting there, what do you being sucking on it because the only way you can eat it is by either biting off and chewing it was really hard or sucking on it. So I can understand if ban is looking at his wife sucking on something that's got the the name big hunk on it. I can understand on gimme a break. I can understand to a point. The misgivings. I'm market gray. Okay. 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