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4 Pillars to Create Financial Freedom With Eric Ortiz
"Eric brother. Welcome to the superman. Life banks by the yemen. I'm a. I'm really fired up to date. It's a conversation. I've really been looking forward to to happen for a while. I think it's something we talk about. You know we talk about making money on the show. Ally interviewed a lot of successful entrepreneurs. I talk about the five ass of building a superman life in finance really being right there in the dead middle so i'm real excited to get in today and really talk about how people can create financial freedom and what to do with your money wants to start making it so as those are watching on youtube could see. I took this conversation a little bit serious. I got dressed up for today. Rocking the rocking the unarmed polo. Where we're ready man. I think where. I want to start though and this is a question that thousands of people are sitting on the edge of their seat to get the answer to this keeping. You've been professional athlete. You played a couple of years in the nfl. You had a little stint here with the tampa bay storm. You know obviously playing linebacker in college. You've been around incredible athletes your entire life. My first question. Eric is what is it like being teammates with frank rich. And what is your greatest memory of our championship winning softball sees okay man. I is a novel question. I'm so glad you asked that First of all I team to the great frank. Rich was blessing You know he brought it in the muscle brought in the four of clean up their position and Mad at first the first season we played a you remember that man what our team was great but we could have some improvements during the offseason. We recruited We got some good athletes on our team and the second is last following season man in return and it was a phenomenal phenomenal season. You had a couple of home runs. I let off the probably one the biggest lead off. Henry's out there willing mobile team. That rela only lost two games in the regular season in two years way back and those two did they lost was to own squad baby so it was awesome man it was It was a great time to develop relationship and and to learn from whether they do. And how you impact people all across the world brother
"frank rich" Discussed on The Podcast Domination Show | Grow your audience, make money and have fun doing it
"Yeah so i mean i When i when i started to become a guest on on bigger shows i said i need something more than just. Send me a message on on instagram. So i was getting ready to be a guest on the show that had a couple of million downloads. in literally. In like two days. I wrote an e book In and built a built-in funnel so still to this day. I mean that was. That was probably eleven months ago That that was it. So yeah the They go download the book. And then there's a there's a there's an email sequence said if a small little indoctrination sequence on specifically for for porn so You know. I'm not trying to at least at this point. I'm not trying to to capture leads for anybody. That's not interested in working in working on a. You probably tell me on a missing something there. so maybe i need something for for the podcast people. Maybe just taking e book and putting it on amazon or putting it on just having as your called action for all your podcast interviews your for your your show not their show you know having intesting it or just saying like hey like it's not going to be free much longer. I'm gonna turn into a paid product so you can get it until i've seen people do that where it's like because i've had products. Where had their freedom like dances. I could sell this literally today. I'm like i'll have to stop giving away free so funny. Yeah i mean it's funny. You said that. Because i'm actually all my fitness. E books have been converted to kindle party to the large finished publishing company and I e books that people can download through an option as for free. But it's two ninety nine on on amazon to buy it. So i see how that works out a deal. I have the same thing that we're Same say mess on like you find links on your website..
"frank rich" Discussed on The Podcast Domination Show | Grow your audience, make money and have fun doing it
"Podcasts. Soon i will do podcast. Pitch for near the podcast. Or i'll do podcasts. Pitch like semi colon. Then the name of the title. That like the title that i would. I would have them using the podcast. Episode like create like how to create fifty thousand listeners. On a this is this. Is you reaching out to be a guest guest. Yeah i've had. I've had a few of these now. i'm not. I don't want to say that i feel like i'm saying this in a you know bragging way but i'm now at the point where people are reaching out to me. I've had you know. Podcast connection companies. Reach out to me. It's the very similar thing you know. Podcast idea for the super human life and then inside of there is like hey we were just we love what you're doing you know We have an idea for for a topic for you. Topic suggestion was was actually. What the the one. That really caught my attention. So yeah i've i've you know copy what's copy. What's working from from other people. I guess. So yeah yeah the for those to work. They have to be as to show that you've been put some thought into like their audience. And like i can make it overly awesome episode for them and that typically will get an open rate could bring So i want a little bit of a left turn. Let's talk a little bit about your show specifically and then we can talk about like. I know because we first started this. You set out. You weren't trying to monetize. It wasn't the guest but along the way some good things happen here there. So what's the podcast about suber lady episode. Talk about this. But what's the podcasts. About and we can talk a little bit about your journey of like how how it created some conversations for you a new clients and whatnot. Yeah so so so my insurance so the original one that we started with in. and in the intro. It's you know it's the only podcast in the world. That's dedicated to helping.
"frank rich" Discussed on The Podcast Domination Show | Grow your audience, make money and have fun doing it
"I appreciate your time. Thanks for joining me. So miss frank rich do leave them going on four years now as friends. But you've been in we Connected probably seriously. I'd say after a year and a half or so of know each other because we knew each others like passer-by and then We finally got connect a little bit deeper. And when you lost your podcast man. So it's good to have you here. Because i've i've said it in in a previous conversations. I've been watching your journey from far and seeing how you went from literally zero downloads to interviewing guys like stephen press field Dave asprey This the neural plasticity doctor. You just told me about which. I'm blanking on her name. Doctor their dr caroline leave interviews with big names. You've come far in a short time and you've monetize the podcast here and they're like along the way so it's good to have you here Because you started from like a lot of people like normally where a lot of people. I know her starting like small following their like. They don't have a huge email less or anything like that. But you've been able to build it up to something that's really really awesome and so it's good to have you here. We'll we'll thank you on the you know. I'm so grateful for our friendship. You know going back to july twenty seventeen toronto sitting in sicker formula. And yeah you know. It's a relationship grew in and you're actually the first podcast ever ever went on. It was your your your get leaner shredded. Or what was that Gosh it was used to be asked the arab guy and then. I got like two self-conscious like crazy but that was half half the year not the whole year. The whole different lifetime for me too. I mean i was. I was pursuing being. You know the muscle was a muscle guy But yeah it was. It was a it was a lifetime ago. A different Different season of life and Yeah i mean You know this this all started with just a dream of my heart and you know you helped me bring it to fruition incredibly grateful.
"Today's episode is another installment of the. Where are the at now. Series a series of episodes. We catch up with past guests who have launched podcasts and where we've been a part of their journeys live by team helped them launched their podcast grow. Their podcasting gets. Were there today. this episode with dear friend of mine named frank rich from these super human life. Podcast frank is a friend and he also was Also nice of him as a client for a little bit when he just launches podcast and today's going to share with us how he's went from literally zero downloads Starting off in a new niche starting off with very little following and ultimately are coming from a really broken place to having a podcast that is now establishing him as an authority figure. He's interviewed guys like the asprey. Stephen press filled And a lot of really hard to reach people and built a platform which now is allowing him to get onto their podcast. Get featured other places bringing clients and a lot of awesome awesome stuff and it wasn't without hard work There's absolutely no shortcuts to the way frank did it. So it's got some magic pill But he shares some really interesting things in this story as if you wanna kinda skip. Pass his personal journey and go more into the tactics. Skip out into this episode. And you'll find some good stuff but outside of that. I adore this interview with a good friend. And i know you're gonna pull some nuggets. You're getting started thinking about getting started and specifically if you have a topic that's like very touchy subject. So you know. Frank deals with like guys who are selling through some form a dish addiction and or porn addiction. Or something along those lines. So if you're in something like that whether it's like you know slim very very deep for the person to go through. Then you're going to listen to the podcast today because it's going to help you move the needle in your journey all right. Let's.
"frank rich" Discussed on Boston Public Radio Podcast
"The i say the what. I'd say the one thing. I sort of trust a little bit. Is he's quite an incompetent. Autocrat can't has no attention span. And so the bar does have an attention span but it makes you wonder whether you'll just flip from one thing to annex quote tremendous disruption and try to de-legitimize election and may maybe succeed The de-legitimizing his base. Who probably aren't going to believe result even if he doesn't protested what you will so it's gonna be bad and you know you have to feel sorry two point four by ms gonna herod an incredible mess both in terms of the political culture of the public culture surrounding this election. Let alone a pandemic and everything else. That's been mismanaged or corrupted by trump. On these four years. We're talking to Frank christian Magazine you mentioned in one of your stories that that fifteen million guns more than fifteen million guns have been purchased. The united states from march through september ninety one percent increase from the same period in two thousand nineteen which is a pretty scary number but a long allies. What you're talking about of bar and the justice department you do see a little bit of of distance not necessarily between bar and the but between some other republicans and the present which you wonder if the election is seems to be one by biden if if they will go along with this it's ridden it's a scam narrative after the election. I i don't know what do you think. That's i a very good question. And i don't know either i i would. I would Here's one thing. I've been thinking about Is you know what let's let's say. Trump does lose There's been some talk trump run again and twenty four which i find unlike su But but i do and we'll the republican party revert to the party of you know bush and romney. I don't think that's going to happen either But i do think there are some incredibly ambitious younger republicans who want to run for president next time. A list of would include obviously ted cruz. Josh hawley missouri Tom cotton and nikki haley for starters. I think they're all the old politics to me are fairly most a pug often not that different from trump. They've supported everything trump's basically but They they have their own self interest. They're smart enough to see if trump really loses and if he loses big. They're gonna have to fan down the edges of it and they're going to have to win back. Essentially those suburban house lights trump refers to them. And i think that may make them not As you said marci not go all in perhaps on the stuff that A stunts trump polls if he loses after the election for their own self only there himself interest you know Wanting to look forward to their own presidential campaigns so frank rich can we turn to an upbeat topic vengeance for a couple of seconds. If we can maybe pay put more polite wrote a great piece. What will happen to the trump toadies. We've talked a lot about that. I go back and forth. What you looked a history as a guide As to what price. Some of the most sycophantic loyalists will pay. Could you share it with us. Yeah i think they're. They're there to their two kinds of the payback. The immediate payback is. Think that some of the worst sacred fans Lindsey graham would be an example even mitch mcconnell. They're about ready to fade into history. Anyway i think They're they're going to be pushed out by new.
"frank rich" Discussed on Boston Public Radio Podcast
"What is point is he's all the polls show. He's really well behind in michigan. Maybe all the polls wrong. But that's one that's particularly lopsided against him. So why is he going in there at this late date in the past week or so to stir this up again so i think there's a lot to worry about During the election they're recruited what fifty thousand vials volunteers whatever that means to go to the polls To watch the polls on the republican side in a way that sounds like a voter harassment intimidation likely Aimed at voters. They don't want to vote starting with minority voters. We're talking to a real spirit lifter frank. Rich new york magazine and other kinds of you know frank rich for masochists like margarine me. Who still don't have our needs sated. The thing that i've obsessed on. And i know this is making a great leap. The assumption being that. There's some point. November fourth or fifth or sixth that joe biden is declared the winner if if if donald trump has been so spiteful and so willing to do things that are damaging to the democracy and the american people. How do you see. Let's say november tenth through january twentieth if donald trump is the loser in this election. I think anything quite honestly as possible. I mean i agree with everything you've said he respects doesn't respect the law. He was specs as people were saying at infinitum. None of the norms of american democracy. So what can you do He can certainly On the criminal side again orchestrate pardon for his family himself you know under some scenario in bill barr justice department He has a an ally who will do anything happens. Incredible even after trump Sort of disparage bar a couple of weeks ago bar let it be known he wants to come back for them in terms so he is a boot licker. Non fry In that say something and and so will they will. They still be challenging the results trying to trying to fool around a as some Apocalyptic scenarios habit wins the electoral college And and you know having republican state legislators legislators field opposing electors to the electors. Were chosen by the popular code. All this is possible Not to mention what he could do for whatever purposes there'd always be a bad himself in the farner arena Although i do think he'll i think you'll have trouble mustering that i i have a little bit of confidence that the pentagon the justice department or resist His worst You know his worst orders or whatever they are you could just meltdown psychically..
Jaws 45th Anniversary And Power Ranking Spielberg
"Welcome to film spotting. Josh, we've done our share of top five over the years five hundred or so, but when it comes to power rankings, we are mere novices. We did this for the first time two years ago. Almost to the day, we power ranked the Chris's Anna the. Moments history of film spot right episode six, Eighty six Oh, surely one of our more significant shows. And this week we're going to power rank the five decades of Steven Spielberg's career. Maybe someday will power rank our power rankings. Come to that. So little preview. Was this tougher than you thought you know? There's two ways to go about this I think initially we both thought just of look at the filmography, and and get on the mic and kind of riff where we think things are, or you sit down and chart things you move them around. You have tears. Which of course is what I think? We both ended up doing so yeah. It was a little bit more of a project than I anticipated, but a rewarding one. Yeah, I put in the work on it. Because I knew it was going to be hard enough deciding which decade put first. and which would slot right behind it? I didn't think it would be so hard with the other decades actually, and then after spending a good deal of time on it I actually ended up flipping two decades around that I thought were set in stone. So I'm excited to get to that, and we'll share listeners power rankings of the Spielberg decades as well we have. Their poll results a bit later I though the beaches are open, so let's talk ause. There is a creature alive today. WHO has survived millions of years of evolution? Without Change. Without Passion. And without logic. It lives to kill a mindless eating machine. It will attack. And Devour. Anything. It is as if God. Created the devil. Gaping. Jaws. Sometimes. Probably often we have a convenient hook for one of these setups that doesn't really reflect the whole substance of our conversation about a movie, but a convenient hook is a convenient hook, which is all to say for those of you who aren't particularly interested in hearing a discussion of jaws framed around our current administration. Just give us a little wiggle room. Here I'm pretty confident, were both more excited to talk about Steven Spielberg's camera tricks then his politics, but it's a little. Little Eerie how prescient his game changing nineteen seventy-five blockbuster is forty five years later. The movie The promise will never go in the water again also presents an all too dangerously familiar type of huckster politician, a crisis who fails to heed the warnings of scientists dramatically downplays and dismisses the potential loss of life can't wait to pat himself, and his cronies on the back loves to PREEN FOR A TV camera and who demands those beaches be open because business demands. They be open. Sorry even the scary shark movie is actually about Corona. Virus and I'm far from the only one who noticed my twitter timeline has jumped the snark over the past couple of months including this from frank rich just a few nights ago. Commenting on a New York Times breaking news tweet read Vice President Mike Pence encourage governors to repeat a misleading claim about corona virus outbreaks rich wrote. Pence makes the jaws mayor look like Churchill. Mayor. Von is played with a pen. See an affable smugness by Murray Hamilton and one line I'd always kind of overlooked. This struck me on. This rewatch is when he's spurning. The please of Roy Scheider is chief Martin Brody and Richard Dreyfuss is Matt. Hooper to keep the beaches closed on July Fourth America's Day, to celebrate its independence and preeminence. Any explains I. Don't think either one of you are familiar with our problems.
"frank rich" Discussed on Strong By Design Podcast
"You know kind of steps to getting started here and then from there. You know if you're if you're interested in in maybe exploring then your email will not be sold to the PORN SITES. Not sold to the foreign site actually we. We've done a very good job because in together I had. I had some some that I really trust. Speak into me and can understand that. Maybe if you're just getting started this is your at a point where this is still an issue that you you don't want announce to the world so even in the download Were very clear like it's like it's it's it's not like your screen it's discreet it's very discreet. Like you're not GonNa get this like addicted to porn like pedia flight. Welcome yeah so So if you're worried about downloading some of these things your wife checking your email or has access to your computer like that's not going to be the case but I think ultimately at some point like if this is something that you are working to overcome that conversation is going to have to come anyways Maybe it's not yet ready started. That's why we made it as why we made a discreet. So the aplenty you for sharing plenty of resources that frank you've shared with and yeah there's there's you know a great book If you know if if if you are a Believer surfing for God Michael John Q. Sick amazing quote in the book by G G K Chesterson when a man knocks on this from like the early twenty S. I think When a man knocked on a brothel door he's knocking. God just kind of something to kind of really think about you. Know talking about the issue with our heart and and how we were created so that's an amazing book searching for God and another one that really dives deep into the science and understanding. How we're chemically wired in. Our brain is called wire wired for intimacy By William M struthers and there's tons of resources out there obviously we'll put links to these in the show description to and what about connecting with you personally? How can people yeah connecting with me the best place for topics like this? If this was discussion that you want to get more of. I do have the podcast. You can find it on itunes or any of your platforms out there. It's called a super human life like Michael Said Our mission is to help men break free from the shackles of Porn Addiction. Through the power of faith and fitness so we have guests that have struggled with this. We've had experts. We've had guys have dealt with multiple addictions we talk on the fitness side as well because that is my background so some of the work that I'm doing. Instagram is a great place is well. It's at the superhuman Frank If you're not on any of those Just send me an email. Frank rich duffin gmail.com gem email. If you WANNA share a story if you're looking for help if you want to have conversation be willing to hop on a call you know for fifteen minutes and just talk talk through this. Anybody like I'm here to bring awareness to the issues in the world. I'm here to help and coach men. Because that's the assignment that I've been given and that's that's what I've spent my life. Doing from sales training to personal training to online coaching to now helping men become demand that they were created to be so Dawson. Man Thank you for your work. Yeah and we have many resources to available I here on our strong buddies on podcast but also are critical bench youtube channel. We've got some great fitness content. So if you're looking to get some fitness programs to help you start a new hobby maybe To lose some weight gain some also. We've got some programs that are going to be able to be used by all individuals so you can feel free to check us out and go back and check out some of our previous episodes we cover all things all things mind body spirit. Yes we We do touch mostly on fitness and health. But we also have podcast episodes like today's we've talked about many different things in the past from some leading experts in the world. So please go back listen to some of our previous episodes and if you found this episode extremely helpful please let us know connect with us via facebook via Instagram with were all over the place. If if if this helps you leave us a review on I tunes give us a five star rating and what that does is. It helps us rank better. Some more people find the show. More people get these messages and we can help more people. And that's why we're doing this show. This isn't something that's monetize. This is just our way of giving back. Yeah because this is something that's personally affected all three of us and we want to help other people through our mistakes and I. I've I've made a lot of mistakes in my life especially when it comes to pornography use and it has led down to many different avenues. That stuff that. I'm not proud of but this is something that we don't take lightly and I know that this is going to be a conversation. I'm going to have with my children some day and I thank God that he's quitting now to have this conversation Hopefully very long time from now but my kids are coming to the age where Lake in a few years. I'm GonNa have to talk to my kids about this and this is this is scary and I don't want to do it but thank God. He's equipment with these resources and like minded individuals to help me through this process so yen. Just just add what you guys are are asking of. You know the three of us have had this. I've obviously have gone to appoint that that I don't wish upon many men but the stats show it. Ninety eight percent You know I've seen more like seventy that really have a problem with it so just think about you. Know if you're a female out there ten guys in your life. Seven of them are are struggling with this. So you know my ask in addition to what you guys are asking what the reading and reviewing it is share the episode if it really touched you today if it really spoke to your harder or spoke to your mind Just that one person that may be you know That it could reach us as well and just just to share the episode. Like if you just wherever you're listening there's three buttons somewhere in the top right hand corner and it'll be a little word that says share just just to see how the podcast that's that's ultimately how we're GONNA research people that that need to hear this because there's there's millions that need to hear the conversation that we just had today. Yeah so frank. Thank you so much for Sharing some good stuff with us today. Mike is always thank you for good times guys. Yeah so again Thank you for listening to the trombone. His on podcast. Please check out. Frank's podcast super human life. Check out his free. Seven step guide to overcoming poor. And I know that's not the title but The seven step guide step Guy Dot com are so guys. Please go check that out. You're definitely knocking disappointed with that and remember..
"frank rich" Discussed on Strong By Design Podcast
"No. You're not calling your body and saying. Hey here's what I just did You're not reading about it. Your first three meeting about all right tweeting about it or right. We finally broke the ice now. We can well it real here and for those guys. If you're still listening I appreciate your listening up to this point and hopefully where we're just giving some information for you to run with but if you're still like it's not it's not that big of a deal it's it doesn't affect me like that's a closed mindset like there's there will come to a point in the road where it will affect you. Am I not affect you right in this exact moment but it this is a heart issue and we want to go back to the scripture I mean Matthew Nineteen for Cecil Onians like this is a heart issue It's not just like a thought it's it's an actual being within our our creation. I mean I it's it's God's will and you to be holy so stay away from all sexual sense. I mean that's from the NRT V. It is God's will that you should be sanctified that you should avoid sexual immorality I mean. That's that's kind of clear as day. That's new testament that's not old testament. That's post Christ Even the crisis still with us Matthew Nine fifteen nineteen From the heart comes. Evil thoughts murder adultery. All sexual immorality theft line and slander. So this is a hard issue. It's not it's it. Does it affects the brain. Like there's certain things like dopamine happens in the brain but something has to trigger the brain and that's the heart and so if you're if you don't believe in God It's this is still a heart issue. This is how you were created whether you believe your created by God whether you're created by something else Your this is still a heart issue. It affects you at the heart. It's not a brain issue the brain it it it's affected from the heart and that's why denial and not not accepting that. There is a problem that that's not a thought. That's that's what you fully believe. And where do you? Where do you get all your belief from? It's from the heart so I don't know where I was going with that but I I know people are still they're going to. They're going to believe what they want to believe whether they have an addiction. Or not like they're gonNA call what they want until that point in the road where like Wow lightbulb. Born with toughness it has to be developed discover five ways to become tough as nails go too strong by design tough DOT com. Enter your email and download this special report for free. Let's get back to the show you talking about how you identify you know. That's a tough thing to label yourself with like addicted to porn like that's on the person who is like is that. How is that how someone should look at it like or is it more is more like this is something I do? It's not who I am. Which is how I would look at it. It's it's something I'm doing that I don't want to do anymore but it doesn't define me as a person. It's not who I am this. This goes a lot into I. Guess my approach and in the work that I'm doing guys now. You know that that whole identifying with I am this. That's best twelve steps you know. And in twelve steps of alcohol twelve steps drugs twelve sex of of sexual addiction. Like that's where somebody that is having issues with porn would attend an essay class in the problem that I see there is it. Is that content identifying Tony Robbins. Kind of quote. Like if you had two people that were trying to to quit cigarettes or quit smoking and you offer them both sit. You offer them both a cigarette. One Person Says No. I'm not a smoker. The other person says no trying to quit the chances that person that is trying to quit at one point is GonNa fall back into smoking again because they're identifying themselves with it so did to become. The person doesn't do this. I think step one is is an acknowledgement and awareness. That it is a problem in your life and you have to commit to making a change but I I th once you've done that. I don't believe you have to keep identifying saying yeah I'm addicted or or was it's like no. Now let's work on the steps of coming becoming the newer person See I it's it's. It's one of those lines that you need to. Yes acknowledge that you have a problem but you have to raise your hand every day and say I'm addicted to porn. No that's not something you can kinda work on by yourself where you know. If you got a fitness goal they always tell you announce it to the world and have people hold you accountable and stuff like that. You don't think people want to go raising their hand on this. I don't think I don't think raising your hand and shouting into the world is going to be the best approach for everybody although he leave really. You'd be really surprised if you really surprised with the feeling and freedom that you get by doing that but what kind of reaction did you get. Wow Get people have been supportive of you of you felt judged. Have you felt outcasted? Have you felt like a Lotta guys connected with you? What kind of. It was amazing because I saw the first conversation I had like. I said it was literally sitting in the parking lot outside with Zach That felt like this weight had been. I had been searching. I had been trying to figure it out on my own reading the books watching the videos like studying deep into it. That's I mean that's that's who I am. That's why that's what with fitness. That's what I've done with business marketing. That's what I've done with this now like when I have something that I'm ready to go in. I'm going to go all in but I started on my own started by myself and it wasn't until I had a conversation I didn't announce it to the world. I didn't you know I didn't start the PODCAST and I didn't launch it on instagram and in on Youtube on facebook right away of gotten there but even that first conversation with one person it was like this weight that had been on my shoulders for nearly two decades just was lifted and then from there I started shared individually with guys like yourselves with other guys out that were very strong and were instrumental in my life so no. I don't think it's something that if you're trying to to overcome it you know whether it's an addiction. You're just trying to stop it. I don't think it's something that you're going to be able to do one hundred percent on your own. Why I'm doing the work that I'm doing now says why I'm a High Fan of coaching. And you know some people are going to need clinical help. It is that level of severity with some people that you're gonNA need more than a coach and mentor. You're gonNA actually need a a clinical psychologist help. Walk you through this. But I don't think you can go about it. One hundred percent on your own now jumping on podcast grabbing a microphone in shutting the World Not GonNa work for most people. You'll get there and when you finally get there. That feeling is amazing. But I think you need to start by finding somebody in your life. Probably not your spouse to start with Scott. If you're a man I think you gotta find an Another man somebody. That's really strong in in. You know a secure and who they are and just had that conversation and when you do that as long as you've chosen the right person that will change your life or getting into some strategies. Now so what are some other hands on type of things that I mean the other day? You're in a couple of weeks ago. You did a podcast with Vince money. And you said that you guys touched on a couple topics and you showed me on instagram. When you're on the you hit the little magnifying glass.
"frank rich" Discussed on Strong By Design Podcast
"Nobody wants to talk about this. It's an issue and church and has never preached about like. It's just not talked about in here. You are going on podcast in like sharing very private intimate stuff from your life so we commend you for that. Frank appreciate that. I mean I could go on for hours with this. I'll do my best to you know to to give the highlights and maybe we can direct people in some ways if they really wanted to get of the full the full scope here but you know as I shared. It was introduced me at a at a very young age. I think it was probably even before before the age of Eight. You can probably member five six years old finding finding a magazine you know in just that that first feeling like Oh wow this is like I mean it was. It was amazing Obviously as a as a kid a child leading into teenager like you don't you don't really understand it. I mean. The Internet rolled around. When I was sixteen. Seventeen years old I think in high school was kind of like when we had like really accessible internet and it just it just just continued to just be a part of my life you. I'm thirty six now so really going on. At the time. When I was finally able to break free. Amino it was close to two decades. That was a part of a part of my life In it never never mattered for me if I was succeeding in work You know I started in succeeded and failed in a few different businesses or my time. I've been successful in corporate. America had some very high level sales jobs in in different corporate positions. Like it never mattered. What was going on in my regular life. It was something and even if I was in a what from the outside looked like a very happy relationship. It was always always there I mean it really took well for me. It was a big part big part for me in understanding that it was a problem was my faith. It was understanding that I was that I was created in in my belief in Christ in in God and as I started to starting my walk with Christ. I had to look at everything that that I was doing. And how was it making me the person that I was trying to become you know I? I use the phrase a lot if you want to end your fight with porn addiction. You have to become the person that is no longer addicted to porn and I think the key word there is that word become you know. Just referencing another book. wired France and Missy by William struthers talks about. We're human but we're not human beings were human becoming 's every day everything we do. Were becoming a new person and for me. It was really I had to look at who was I becoming? Who was I gonNA be as I started my family? Was I going to be for the people that I was surrounding myself with? You know shared at the beginning of the PODCAST. Like how instrumental the two of you in the other. You know the other guy over there. Chris. It's not here with us. Have been in my life ins for me. It really did come down to to my faith in in understanding like that that this is wrong morally. Now let me figure out how to stop it because you can make the decision that it's wrong but when you know when you're when you're deep in it I mean Algebra even add if if you're not sure of you still not sure if you think it's wrong how do you feel afterwards. Do you ever feel good about yourself like not you. It's just a question for you. Think about it right now like after you're done looking the ever like get a smile on your face. Enjoy good about yourself. No No. You're not calling your body and saying. Hey here's what I just did.
"frank rich" Discussed on Strong By Design Podcast
"Faith and fitness. Thanks you very much a warm welcome for Mr Frank Rich. Ooh excited to be here today. Yeah Good Times so the topic today. It's one that It's a little taboo. People don't like to talk about it. You don't hear about it too much in church guys. Don't talk about it too much. And if they do. It's kind of a thing guys joke around about but it's actually a pretty serious issue. We're GONNA tackle that today. The word the word we're talking about is pornography and porn. It's a conversation that I feel needs to be had in in. I'm just so grateful to be here with you guys in you know the fact that you're open to have this conversation today. I know it's going to impact a lot of men it's going to reach a lot of women So I'm just truly blessed and grateful to to have you guys. Yeah I mean I know I shared my story quite a bit in the first time I really had. It was literally in the parking lot outside so this place is very special. To my heart's it's special to everything. I'm doing now so I just want to share that with you guys got know. We've we've talked about it but I went to the listeners. Know Yeah we've got history here. Frank lives locally. He's been training with us. What a couple of years. Now you know developed into a great friendship and brothers in Christ and just awesome to have you here appreciate it. Yeah so yeah. Thanks for giving us that. That frank appreciate that now for our listeners out there welcome if this is your first time listening to us. Please come into this episode with an open mind It's like Mike said. It's one of those touchy subjects that immediately throws off these these triggers. These flags sirens saying like nope. That's not for me. I don't WanNA listen to it. I don't care what they have to say but please go into this episode with an open mind and I would challenge anybody. That has that reaction immediately to pause for a second and think about why. Why are you triggered to feel that way? Why are you triggered to have the third? Because it's a real thing it's a real problem. It's a problem with men. It's a problem with women. It's a problem in relationships. And if we don't continue to have these conversations and we don't open up about it it's only gonNA continue to get worse and worse so. I would definitely say if that is where your ads in. You're already questioning. I WanNa Continue. Pause take a deep breath and just give us your ears for however long we continue here today and my hope and I know you guys to. Is that something that we say? Today is going to resonate with you whether this is not a problem in you haven't identified as a problem in your life. I can almost one hundred percent with certainty guarantee that there's somebody in your life and I know we're going to get into some statistics later on about the men that are struggling with this. So just give us your time first of all. We're grateful to have you guys tuning in. But like I said if that's where you're already going to just pause for a second in evaluate why why get this is one of those things. That's it is a global epidemic pandemic. It's it's an again. We're going to show the statistics but it is one of those things that it affects. Every single person that walks face of this planet absolutely even those individuals that don't even have access to the Internet because porn comes in all different shapes and sizes in an effects so many people that don't even aren't even within sell range so it's and there's a lot of guys that whether they should be shouldn't be I think it's just a fact that it's not something that everyone's speaking about or they're open about and it's something guys can feel guilty or ashamed about I mean we might as well share this one statistic before we jump into things and I was on the website called covenant is Dot Com looking up some statistics and it said that ninety eight percent of men in the last six.
The Life of Mike Nichols
"Ask Carter and Sam Kashmir join us now they wrote together an oral history of Mike Nichols it's called life isn't everything. Mike Nichols as remembered by one hundred and fifty of his closest friends Sam Ash. Thanks for being here. Just thanks for having US thank you. What was was the genesis of this project? Well after Mike's Death I was at Vanity Fair and wanted to do an oral history as much as we can get away with the magazine and ask had worked as a PA.. With Mike. And I knew him mm somewhat and so I thought it best to join forces and so we did this for the magazine originally and it was so interesting and there was so much material that it just kind of presented itself as a book kind of instantly. As soon as we saw together in the magazine they must have been painful to have to cut. Had it down to magazine size well. The piece was originally assigned at six thousand. Words ran at eleven thousand and still not a word practically about his theater career hear about his time at the compass. Players is a founding member of Improv. I mean there's so much still on the table Ash you're very lucky person having worked as the PA.. What did you work on? I worked on Charlie Wilson's war. That was my first job out of college. I was so upset on hangs Julia Roberts. What was that often? Yes Oh right. Of course. It was a big movie so very often. You felt very distant from where the the real real action was taking place but still. I really feel blessed who've been able to be as close as I was. So you mentioned Charlie. Wilson's war my immediate reaction. Shen is Oh my God. That's Mike Nichols. Also the thing that I think people don't even fully appreciate now is just how incredibly accomplished. He was and for so long so if we could just kind of begin with his I think I real fame fame was with Nichols and may but before we go into each of those stop. Just take us through because I think people may be associated him with the graduate and a couple of other major projects. But let's just list some some of them so people have a sense. Well there was the great success of the Nichols. and May Elaine. May and Mike Nichols as a comedy team. which kind of transformed formed Comedy really and Mike as Director. He and Neil Simon joined forces and he really kind of in a way. Reinvented invented Simon. For Neil Simon. You know with barefoot in the park and the odd couple and as of film director his first film was the Richard Richard Burton Elizabeth Taylor. Who's afraid of Virginia? Woolf which frank rich other people believed to be the maybe the best reputation of a of a stage play for film ever the graduate which was second film his second film shocking. JFK transformative you know and Oscar worthy. And then there's all all the stage work Tom Stoppard's the real thing David Raves hurly-burly streamers. Yeah camelot and S- Pamela camelot idle. I mean it's kind of prodian extraordinary range of of gifts that that he I mean. He Directs Spam Lot. I I think two years after doing angels in America for HBO. I mean that's range. I don't WanNa go too much into his early life by. I think it's important to point out that this was a person who arrived here. Didn't speak English. Not as first language goes to the University of Chicago right he meets Elaine. May let's start there. What was it that made that pairing so extraordinary? What did they do? You said that they revolutionized comedy Elaine may was the dangerous genius that entered Mike Nichols life and and changed him she was kind of a combustion engine and he was the steering wheel a little bit. Steve Martin told us the first time. When you listen to those records those bits or you know the sketches? which is he said that the that I heard irony brock kind of modernity to comics situations and things that comedians did not go? Nya such as the cost of funerals was is the time of Jessica Mitford the the American way of death. And you know I mean these are weighty subjects adultery a- adultery right the previous generation of comics from the fifties where people who came from Vaudeville and the Borscht Belt Nichols and may had a theater background around. And you know both the classical repertory but also as Improv actors and by the way they're also both at analysis and brought a level of psychological acuity to comedy that really hasn't been seen before let's just a clip of them from that period some day Arthur. You'll get married and you'll have suit of your own and honey when you do. I only pray that they make us suffer the way you. That's all I pray to mothers. Okay mom thanks for calling you very sarcastic. I'm doing my best now. You call me on on the telephone I me. I'm sorry I'm sorry that bothered you and look I didn't make you feel bad. Are you kidding I feel awful. Oh honey if I could believe that I'd be the happiest mother it's true. What do you think I feel crummy Arthur honey? Why don't you call me sweetheart? That's the one bit. That's kind of in a way close to auto biography at least for Mike that was sort of his mother in a way and and he had a difficult very difficult relationship with her. Are you know after the death of his physician. Father they were really plunged into poverty into serious poverty in in New York. He I used to have to go in the olden days to the Museum of TV and radio to watch these old clips. But now I I'm imagining that. You can see all of this on Youtube. Yeah there's a lot of great stuff and Youtube I encourage people to also look up there The award for total mediocrity that they did at the Emmys when you're in the nineteen fifties so that's just breathtaking. I just actually making fun of their own mirror. You know I mean they're making fun of show business with a successful right away. They were both part of this. Very heavy kind of avant-garde guard group called the compensator in Chicago and the two of them just clicked as their manager. Jack rollins later said there. They were like ham and eggs. They were a local will hit first then they came to New York. He signed them up his clients started booking them at local nightclubs and they were hit right away and then they started going non Jackpot and omnibus and they were hit nationally. So yeah it was. It was really just like that. It was that quick. How does it get from that to? Who's afraid of Virginia? Woolf well well they had a great success Nichols and may on Broadway at the Golden Theatre was an evening with Nichols in May ostensibly directed by Arthur Penn.. You know but not really and Elaine was just sort of tired of doing it and in a way was the comedic version of of the Beatles. Breaking up people were just. I just chop fall in. You know it's tragic. Yes yes yeah. It was kind of a loss in a way They would wind up working together. Other eventually you know as a screenwriter and director but but Mike it kind of put him in in the wilderness for a while He was really at see if we rely on a little bit. When he's got that evening on Broadway with a lame the theater? They were in shared an alley with a theater where her camelot was on stage with Richard Burton and they would kind of hang out after after the show and that's how he kind of got to know him and it was. It's essentially through that meeting Richard in that alley and threw him Liz. They were the ones who hired for Virginia Woolf. When you think about the collaborators he had the people he got to work with you mentioned Arthur panel the you know lately Richard Burton Elizabeth Taylor Dustin in Hoffman Jewels pfeiffer on carnal knowledge? It's just you know on and on Meryl Streep the biggest names and your subtitle is is Mike Nichols as remembered by hundred and fifty of his closest friends. Did He. Frequently form friendships during these professional collaborations was. He's one of those the people that everybody felt like they knew. And we're close to make exactly this actors and and many was writers really kind of fell in love with him. I mean we could have called the book seduced by Mike Nichols you know Natalie. Portman really wept recalling. Her work with Mike Sue now. Yeah and that was much later and the closer yes. Yes but also they did stage work together so they were totally devoted to him. I I mean Tom Stoppard. For example said I think his advice memorial you know he thought to himself who is there to to write for he so he was kind of an Avatar to all of these. She's tremendously gifted complicated. People and the friendships were very deep. And Very Real Maureen Dowd. Your colleagues said that he was a null coward figure with the Jersey Kaczynski past and unlike a lot of other people who had a really horrible childhoods he did not kind of wear it on his sleeve and he we've talked about it and didn't particularly want to spend a lot of time thinking about it and I I mean I think this is kind of the key to his career. Longevity Eddie is that he was. Somebody really always wanted to be living in the moment. And kind of looking forward to the next project even up until the end of his life when he had several things that were in progress including masterclass terrence. McNally's play that he was gonNA adapt for. HBO With Meryl Streep. Yeah I mean in a way. Our title is taken from a a model of Mike's life isn't everything but it's kind of a misnomer because it was everything to him. You know in a way I mean he could be difficult to and and some of the people in the booker occur quite open about yes. That Emma Thompson is one right exactly Thompson who who adored him. You know said we're not talking about some saint here so you know and in fact Mike toward the end of his life felt that he had been cruel to people and had betrayed others. You know but he did develop a music also about someone who sort of as much of a genius as he was you know he was also complicated difficult cat and felt like there were people to apologize to. Some people presumably wouldn't talk to you Elaine. May of course wouldn't what about Diane Sawyer and were there other people who you pursued and just said you know what no now. We did approach. Diane we wouldn't have done this actually without her been addiction you know and she gave us the same response that initially initially Sam Beckett gave to digital bear you know which is. I'm not going to stop you but I'm also not going to help you all that much. But when push came to shove and we needed the people such as Meryl Streep she was helpful behind the scenes and Elaine. She did. Give us a blurb. Although we didn't use it and the blurb facetiously officiously said well I I would tell you all I know. But they're going to pay me millions of dollars to write my memoirs something. You'll never do you know. She meant it as kind of a joke before before we go one final question what do you each of you. Thank was Nicholas's greatest work and then also so perhaps a personal favourite may be less known or just something new especially leaden. And why. Let's start with you ash. I would say probably the graduate. It's not the most original choice but I just have seen the movie so many times and I think that it it just has held up so much better than a lot of other youth movies of the time that it was sort of lumped in with that plus the the comedy albums is sort of where my original enthusiasm for him started. But you know I I think catch twenty. Two for example is a movie that has not really gotten. It's do. I think it's actually kind of a brilliant movie that was overshadowed by Mash at the time though it is I see no reason why the existence of Mash prevent people from enjoying it today not an easy novel to adapt to know and but I think him and Buck Henry and we did a credible job adapting it. Sam will I mean. It's so hard to choose. My mother would choose working girl in or Silkwood you know an but are you. Seeing your mother would be wrong. My mother never wrong But for me it's you know the stage work is kind and of extraordinary. I mean the Philip Seymour. Hoffman death of a salesman at the end of life using that was really just is an extraordinary unearth accomplishment. Really it brought him Full Circle Because that streetcar with the two original productions that changed his life really all right. I'm hoping that this interview. If nothing else forces everyone to go to youtube everyone to go and stream every single thing that Mike Nichols did that was available. He was such an incredible credible talent ash. Carter Sam cash. Thank you so much for being here. Thank you so much thank your new book is called. Life isn't everything. Mike Nichols as remembered by one hundred
"frank rich" Discussed on Mad Influence
"Did or the Fossey movie. I saw it in its tryout not as a ticket taker I was in Boston doing college interviews as a senior in high school and it hadn't even been reviewed yet. I went to a preview at the Shubert theatre in Boston. And when Joel grey came out and saying. L-? Komen. I thought the show I was with a a girl was a camp friend of mine. We thought the show is in German. We didn't even understand what was happening. And then we're like, oh my God. You know, it was like, and it was also very rough than it hadn't been polished. The original production raised in the sun. I saw it did a post Broadway tour without party. But with the rest of the original cast like ruby Dee and Ossie Davis, Diana sands. It played the national which had famously before my time until the early. Fifties had been a segregated theater. And before my mother took me to see it. And I must have been ten or eleven and suddenly I understood the whole race is wonderful play. It's still to me a great play, but the whole racial world with Washington was a segregated southern city. And I went to public schools that were essentially segregated right? Rules, not suburban schools. That had an enormous impact. It was so many things in the theatre had such a melded the idea of having a social social consciousness and art Frank rich. I have so enjoyed this conversation me to thank you. And for all the listeners out there. You should watch VP should watch succession if you're not turned out onto it. It's an amazing show read Frank rich all the time in New York MAG and on the websites read is books, including the greatest story ever sold. Thanks for listening.
"frank rich" Discussed on Mad Influence
"With succession. It's similarly what I would call a dark comedy if possible it's darker. I didn't know when I first started watching it. What exactly I was watching? I didn't know if it was like it had the the tone of a dark drama, and then it just gets funnier as you go along. And I'm curious if you and Jesse arms on the show's creator and the rest of the producers how you see that tone, and what you were going for that tone is very much a jesse's tone and that is his his tone. But it takes a while for mu- much the audience couldn't figure it out first. And in part of that is also just as sort of the way, we think of American tells you is an hour drama. HBO? You have a certain expectation about it. And you set up everything in the first episode. There's gonna then come along. Right. Exactly. Because didn't do that. Exactly. And that's the way he writes. And so there is it's just turning the knob in a in a somewhat different way. And I think if such a special voice, and I'm glad that people are finding their way into it without having it laid on with the trial of the beginning everyone. We could we paid off we hushed up there are emails correspondence. It's ready to go. It's a fucking time bomb. So what are you? What are you going to? I don't know. I don't know because anyone who asks for advice, I make complicit if you know about this stuff, you should tell. But you can't because you're going to spread the virus. So. I have the virus. Don't I one of the challenges? I think though is I'm curious how you dress. This is the the narrative problem that all of the all of the characters are essentially unlikable. Well, you know, a lot of the early reviews ultimately people started sort of recanting and changing their tune. But you know, I cannot right? I cannot watch the show with the people are all this hateful. Not knowing to root for of course, you can you can people are. Jesse's resp- someone asks us to digest the interview he said, you know, I'd rather right people who are interesting. I'm not interested. You know, he's not interested in writing characters based on whether they're likeable or not I have to say we never really gave it that issue consideration. But look veep characters in veep. Art despicable not just Selena. And yet is there any more beloved actress America than than Julia, right? But if if it's written so it's so funny, and it's plagued by someone with such intrinsic humanity. You can't bring yourself to hate her. And so you know, or you love to hate her. And you look at someone like Kieran Culkin to take a handy exam or Brian Cox. Yeah, you're compelled by even if you think they're horrible people. There's something compelling about them. And that's where art comes in. And these characters not running for public office. You don't have to like them. We don't you know, we're not running. We're not doing a broadcast network show of the old. Where you want to pander to the audience and make everybody lovable last thing. I want to ask you about is just your own cultural influences, including like favorite books and kind of unsung movies. You think have either inspired you or you know, you just amazed by how they got made when my favorite novels. I Claudius was thinking about it when I was reading greatest story ever sold because then you have this the sense of an actual reliable narrator who is one of history's actors to use the call rove quote from greatest story. But I'm just curious both I Claudius by the way is a much discussed book in the succession writer's room or or or lease the television adaptation of the graves. Yeah. That was a book, I might was a favorite of my mother's. I read as a as a teenager loved. But I would say the influences on me are weird in terms of books. The book that changed. My life was a memoir I read. When I was ten years old moss. Hart fact, one which would have captured everything for me about growing up on a happy family discovering, the theater and wanting to leave home and go into another life, and it really in my own memoir. Go slight, you know, declare within is to some extent, my own humble version of variation on that theme beyond sort of certain classic American literature, like, particularly like, Scott FitzGerald, which had a big impact things that really sort of in the formative years of myself as becoming an adult reader like starting in my adolescence reading Phillip Roth in the starting with the short stories in goodbye, Columbus, which came out. Yeah. When I was you wanna think? That was like eleven or twelve the golden period of John Cheever reading stories in the New Yorker, Richard gates Salinger particularly like short catching the ri- when but you know, I remember vividly reading, and so when they're potion in, you know, in nine stories, so certain kind of modern American literature, certainly got to me in terms of the rest of it, theaters, movies and television. I mean, the effect of theater on me was profound. And and they're strange things that had the -ffected me the original how prints production of cabaret, which was never duplicated, including a revivals. He did
"frank rich" Discussed on Mad Influence
"So I I started to get bored. And but I didn't know what I wanted to do by coincidence that time I was approached as where some other journalists by two guys we've just taken over HBO after a shakeup there if I wanted to consult which was nebulous, but meant sort of was appeared when HBO was cupboard was getting bear sopranos six hundred in sexist. They were nearing the end of the runs HBO famously passed on madman and homeland and weeds Dexter and game of thrones wasn't out yet game of thrones was not remotely out yet. I started doing this just looking at stuff for them. And I had the option to produce which I didn't quite even know what it meant. Yeah. And without going to the whole story one thing led to another. I developed a bunch of stuff at the. But the one that I ended up producing was veep. Meanwhile, I. I decided to lead the times job and go to work for Adam to write longer pieces, and that was going to be my full time job. And when I left the times, we would just making the pilot of the which I made with the correct turned out not to be correct. But with the expectation would never be picked up and become a series because usually that doesn't happen. And I'd had a couple of things that had in development that had died and little did I know would take over my life. And then I got really sucked into veep. And then the next thing I knew it taken over my life. I was writing less and less journalism. And I've been you know, and I remember standing in, you know, Baltimore shooting the pilot and thinking this was my fantasy as a kid taking tickets of being with a show at a town. That's being rewritten every night. And I didn't quite know what I was doing. But I got dug in got involved. Learn a ton. Continue to learn a ton. And I felt why didn't I think of this year's earlier? Why did I not go into the theater instead of writing about it? You know, you can't ask yourself those questions. I always like pros riding, and I know right as a producer. I know write scripts I'm in the writer's room, basically all the time at veep and succession of Fairmount as well. But it's more. You know, I pitch things and and have opinions about things and can be a sounding board. But I actually have no interest in writing a script. I really like prose writing. And so, and that's and giving the script. Anyway, it's only part of the job of producing so many other great things from, you know, Kiara for a poster to casting to putting out fires every day on fires every other minute dealing with the network all that kind of thing. Yeah. And I'm sure that part of what you're doing is also like just thinking of the the beats of storylines that that are interesting and taking and keeping the whole narrative. Live in mind for the show hope to achieve right? Yeah. I've worked with really gifted show runners who do that. But I can help help guide a bit or at least bouncing around and be part of the conversation without having to deter, you know, in the end it's up to the the writers to do what they wanna do. But I feel I can play a role and I love doing it. But I also love dealing with actors, and I like dealing with crew, and and you know, the network and all of it. It's really very very absorbing. And it real, you know, I think it's a child divorce I fell in love with the theory that seemed like a family I wished I had instead of my own family. I have a very wonderful family as a grownup now. But, but I also have this sort of additional family with these shows that you know, as we approaching the end of seven years of veep. It's wistful. Yes. Who? See no that we're going to disband in about five weeks. Oh, man. Did you have discussions as you were creating it and do you sometimes still have discussions about how low to go hell venal to go because how how much cursing and sex jokes to allow about how grim picture of politics to depict because all of it, the language references are not destroying their purposeful full throttle on I love that about it. And the vanity is so comprehensive. There's almost sometimes no lighter hope shining through you could call it cynical or you could call it accurate, of course, the dark comedy. But do you ever have discussions in the room where you're like guys? We're going to dark here. Not really. And in fact, the question is how Dr can we go, and it's interesting David Mandel, who's the current show runner who took over from Armando and the last this was always going to be our last season, and we had plotted out in the room. And even started writing episodes of before. September year ago when Julia got her diagnosis, and which led to a year of breast cancer and lead to a year long postponement at the time, we broke story then and assemble that season and pitched it successfully the HBO Trump had been present like six or seven months, right? I should say to those who've never have watched feet. We never reference Korean politicians. We never mentioned any politician after Reagan. There's no mention of Hillary or bomber Trump or anyone we don't it's not satire in that way. So we had a year of hiatus, and I came out here in may as Julia was getting better. And we were starting to think about gearing up again, and scheduling it and spent some time with Dave Mandel. And he said to me, you know, I'm I continue to rework mentally what we did. Because here we have. In in Selina Meyer, vice president then president who's a horrible person. She's a narcissist. She's corrupt. She doesn't have any convictions about anything. She doesn't care about her constituents. All she cares about herself. For me and the country. Yeah. Yeah. That's what I made good job. Amy. Thank you dependence on foreign oil ended by me. Could you stop that? The thing is in our show. She is punished for it. She gets humiliated. Right. She loses elections. Now, we have someone in the White House who's worse than Selena and has been rewarded for it. And how do we do we do that without doing Trump without doing something stupid? You know, an obvious. How'd you solve that? You'll see I think seven. Yeah, you'll you'll see but that led to a process of re-breaking the season changing really the ending of the series. We had a wonderful ending under the previous version of now, we have a different one also wonderful in my opinion. Should he it in a few weeks? But it was really took a lot of angst. And a lot of thought and it is dark. It is it it has to be dark. I think it's funny, but it is not looking for hope with where no one's going around looking for hope it is very dark to me almost in a. Cubic kind of way, but very much our show, and so people will see for themselves, but it's you have to respond to it. You don't have to. But something when we see what's happening in America. We can't just pretend it's not returning not gonna put a gloss on it. With
"frank rich" Discussed on Mad Influence
"Rogers. Famish? Independently bring it keeps to sleep essentially taxes. Relent you go to as much as you know. I did you did you kind of burn out on it. Yeah. I think one of the reasons I left tied to leave. The job was to be theater critic. You really have to tolerance for the crap. I mean anyone can like a great show. And I had an endless tolerance for crap. I and and and and again going back to my ticket taking days sometimes the shows of to Washington, you knew we're going to be smash hit some Broadway. Like, I saw the tryouts fiddler and odd couple and barefoot in the park. Hello dolly. But a lot of them were terrible. They were done by people the same caliber as Jerry Robinson, Mike Nichols and Balkan Harnack, but they were flops and I loved watching them and love them watching them, try to change them fix them and fail to fix them. And as a critic, I enjoyed seeing that stuff to in writing about it and. Had a real passion for it that started to evaporate and once I left the job. And once it start evaporate. I knew I had to leave the job. And then once I left the job. I felt I really don't wanna waste my time. Seeing John Keti more. I just I lost interest in it. So sometimes I wait for the reviews. For us. And you know, I go a fair amount. But I really tried to pick my shots. Also would happen. Just sort of a weird thing is once I left the job. I could do something always wanted to do which was become friends with theater people. I admired respected, and I and I have people like Sondheim Sondheim who I did not very young. But I've become very good friends with over the past since I left the job, and I know lots of other people to now, and whenever I go, you know, it's known I'm there, and I can't walk out. Yeah. Yeah. I I never walked out as a critic either. But to now, I really don't want to waste a night. But I'm, but I'm very passionate, and you know. Even doing a lot of work now in three different cities in the past month. I've seen, you know, a couple of things I really loved, and, you know, who was the last great show you loved and you thought I would have loved to have sung the praises of this show. Very recently, this this this crazy revival of Oklahoma at Saint Ann's Moorhouse in Brooklyn the began at Bard college with no one in it anyone's ever heard of this took this show. I like Rogers and Hammerstein shows, but to me that's always sort of been one of the less interesting ones. And you know, I've never really seen a good production of it. And this was something without changing a word and being totally faithful to score made. You think about America made you think about the America that produced Trump it was was conceived three years ago? Pre Trump doesn't have any Trump in it. But it's the, you know, become something about nationalism. But also about. People being excluded from side of the character. Judd is sort of reconsidered he's not played like a rod Steiger bully like in the movie like it unlocked, something that actually was in in the show as Oscar Hammerstein wrote the book that I had never seen before. And in fact, I after I saw it I had a lengthy phone conversation with with Steve som- time who was a protege of Oscar Hammerstein just taught you know, I am just talking through. Because suddenly I thought oh, there's a reason why this appeared three years after our town. There's similarities in our town was the the work of a gay writer so was Oklahoma based on a play by gay playwright. Lynn Riggs is forgotten now. And there was I suddenly I was looking at them in a whole different way. And even though that's not explicitly. The the theme of either show, suddenly you feel it's much more complex vision of humanity in America. When. Re would take. Three with the free. See flooded, drug amounts. Instructors. The pope will pop. I'm trying to figure out now. How you make this transition to your next job as producer, veep and succession, it is a really giant leap because you're going from as much as you might have loved theater, you're on the other side of it. And as much as you might like writing about politics, you're now writing accents scenes, and how did you take to it was it was it? Did it feel intuitive of jump yet? I mean, it happens sort of by accident in retrospect, a lot of it is intuitive. But I was real, you know, I I have this thing. I just get sick of doing something for too long. So I I'd quit the drama critics job after twelve thirteen years of doing it. I was really getting tired of being a columnist. I felt like I was sort of a monkey on a string. I've felt I had a real contribution to make during the Bush years. Obama wants. He was elected less. So
"frank rich" Discussed on Mad Influence
"Hey, I want to take a quick break here to thank me. Sean, don't as you know, because you've been listening Madden fluids features personalities and performers from shape, our culture focusing on moments that have mattered most of them we explore breakthroughs and hard one discoveries that have helped forge legacies and define careers stuff. In other words, that's worth celebrating. So it's fitting that this season on that influences presented by moesha double who has stood for celebrations for over two hundred seventy five years as we examine the ingredients of some pretty unforgettable creative. Rears were grateful for the support of the world's most love champagne and for their encouragement to celebrate life's memorable moments. So many people know that you were dubbed, the butcher Broadway for the power and influence of your reviews, which of course, didn't always hued a popular opinion and for the reputed power of your negative reviews to shut down and play. But probably many fewer know how you got that title. Wasn't it? The comic known as Mr. bean Rohan after. It was how the hell happened Rowan Atkinson is actually a very talented comedian did it review on Broadway that I barely remember. I reviewed it. It wasn't very good. But it was like a mixture of stand up, and maybe some musical acts, and I Pandit and it closed in a week now should say for my reputation shows like that that closed in the week. They got bad reviews from everyone. They didn't just get bad of us from the time. So it got yacht allowed their views. I wrote one of them, but I was considered more powerful because I run for the times. So he then went back England as a celebrity then and now and like held a press conference or gave an interview and they said what happened? He said, I was panned by the butcher of Broadway. And that and that began began at somehow it it traveled to America. And it's it's hilarious. I I've I ultimately you have to embrace something like that. And but I was very controversial figure in England. Less because of Rowan Atkinson Wiley review that one time, but because of Lloyd Webber that's and I thought yeah, I was little literally I have somewhere stashed in a desk fund page pages of the British tabloids in the nineteen eighties with Lloyd Webber attacking me. And you with huge New York Post style headlines, and I actually had a situation once where I was chased through Heathrow by paparazzi what and trying to get a comment from me about whatever Starlight express or something. Anyway, Beatlemania meets theater criticism was in such a weird forgotten world. You wrote a piece at towards the end, which I found again in your collection hot seat. But this is a nineteen Ninety-three. You wrote about the last as you were leaving that post about the last dying gasp of the Broadway musical, and you said that in reconsidering the musicals even the fifties and sixties code. I realized that even at the time I should've known genre. As it existed was doomed. But since you've left we've had a great renaissance Broadway musicals since book them warm in Hamilton your Evan Hansen. What happened how did the last dying gas become a cultural renaissance? Well, it's interesting. I mean, yes, when I wrote that when I left I wrote that piece. When I left drama Craig's job jobs, roughly nineteen Ninety-three. So at that time there were Sondheim musicals. And there were all these British spectacles in an even worse. American imitations of them. So several things happen and also Broadway itself was in terrible state people don't remember now. But now they're lines produces waiting to get an empty Broadway. House theaters like the Neal were book of Mormon is sad dark for seasons of the time. No one wanted these houses size wearing from very perspective. The first thing that happened after I left with Disney came in right, producing musicals, whatever one thinks of the middle. So restoring the new Amsterdam and leading to a revival of the Times Square for better or worse is sort of a mole like narrowed. And then finally what happened was popular music actually liked by young listeners finally got a foothold on Broadway. And and I would say to some extent that's true of the book of Mormon. But of course, it's obviously really true of Hamilton. And that was a change when I was growing up and rock came in brought. Boy was oblivious to it joepat, and it moved to Broadway. Burt back rack did was even rock, but he did one show with sort of modern pop music promises promises around the same time as hair, but otherwise no one thought of saying, hey, why does why don't you as Warriner to write a musical or Dylan or Paul Simon or Lennon McCartney? There completely clueless so Broadway. Musicals kept sounding like pop music of the my fair lady era and the audience kept getting older and older. So didn't take rocket science to figure out how to do it. But it took decades for a new generation producers, including the producers of Hamilton's the perfect example to to figure out. Why don't you have someone right in the actual idiom music people? Listen to when they're streaming music rather than try to recreate owner and low Rogers.
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"Telling just since he's been an all your aided. I mean, you have written a lot about how politics became the line between politics and entertainment blurred that seems to be a sub theme of of your book. But also of a lot of the essays you've written. Do you buy the narrative that we American voters opted for Trump just because he was more entertaining than Hillary Clinton? I'm not sure I buy part of it with the part of it. I buy is. Of course, he's more entertaining than she is. I would argue that almost anyone as more entertaining than she is. She's just not a natural politician. And she's a wonk and for it was also more far more entertaining the rest of the Republican field than Jeb Bush, or whomever. You wanna talk about Marco Rubio. But I don't think that's the reason he got elected. I think that the reason he got elected directly out of the crash of two thousand eight the fact that there was huge recession. There was a feeling correct. Feeling by on the part of many Americans that the people who orchestrated the, you know, the whole crisis on Wall Street got away with murder got off Scot free or bigger than ever could laugh all the way to the Bank while normal America. Ordinary Americans got shafted with holding underwater mortgages and all the rat. A savings accounts that were decimated for one case where were decimated. And I'm a big admire Barack Obama and much of what he did. But the fact is and he endless also he deserves credit for keeping the country from falling into a real depression. That said he didn't. There was no policing of the people who brought this when Democrats and Republicans alike. And so I think I think people really angry at the establishment. And I think this Obama left office. It was a bipartisan feeling and Trump. Possibly not even intentionally because it seems kind of counter intuitive that a billionaire or supposed- billionaire certainly of the top one percent any event could present himself as a populist hero. But leaving that flimflam aside, he figured out that that he could tap into that anger. And indeed while he and Bernie Sanders are very different. I don't mean to derogate producers by using them in the same sentence. But but and and their constituencies were also somewhat different. There wasn't overlap because they were both speaking about the same thing. Trump crudely and hypocritically Sanders, informed Williams. Sincerely. And I think that anger is what he tapped into and continues to tap into to some extent in your book, the greatest story ever sold one of the things one of the concert. Refrains is this disappointment with the press for not questioning the narrative, and I don't think you can say the press has been as passive as. As it was during the Bush years, but still it's so often feels frustratingly ineffectual part of that is that in constantly questioning the store lines thrown up by Trump. The press loses sight of all kinds of other issues. We don't talk about education with climate change. We don't talk about banks deregulation. We hardly talked about healthcare until you know, some of the polling during the pre election day polling showed that people really cared about it. So it seems to me that we talk about the theater that is Trump we react to the daily, you know, parameters of his deranged mind and his tweets, but as someone who loves theater is that a mistake. It is a some extent. But I would look no one is more critical than I am about the press during the the run of the Iraq war was horrible, including at the New York Times and the Washington Post terrible. I mean, and the and by the way, the the major networks forget about cable NBC ABC CBS NBC, they were flagged buttons. I mean, they did nothing to question it the false the fictional case for war and the times and the post didn't do enough. What's happened under Trump somewhat different? First of all, the investigative reporting has been superb really super by lots of people led by the post and the times and some extent some of the networks, including CNN that Trump rallies were over covered in the campaign and that the presence to easily attracted by Trump's diversions Entertainment's, all that's true. But I'm not convinced. It's the problem is is definitely true. And I think I think the problem is actually worse and beyond the presses ability in that with frustrated me about the press as a member of the press is the people that loved Trump don't care about any of it. Trump was right. He could pull out a gun and Fifth Avenue and shoot someone and it could be covered on. Live television like a scene out of a new remake of Patty chase Ke's network. And people would say that guy brought it on the guy was shot. Brought it on himself or herself. They don't care that Trump university is a fraud. They don't care about stormy Daniels. They don't care about his taxes. They don't carry pobably colluded with Russia. And so you have all this really great investigative journalism, and we need people like you, and I eat it up. But the people that might change their minds don't they either don't even consume it when they're watching the state television, FOX or they just. Don't care. I think one of the things that I think is quizzical even maddening is this idea that if politics is a story this president is an unreliable narrator. So the storyline changes every week every night, there are constant through lines. The border is scary America's being taken advantage of. But there are more contradictions reversals interns than there is a consistent plot. And I think it's real easy to get lost in that like a random as and I wonder if that's why you've started to broaden the lens in your own writing. You wrote a terrific piece about how the establishment of New York predominantly democratic town enabled an emboldened Trump, the Hillary Clinton's and Chuck Schumer's elites who went to his wedding. And look the other way when he amassed a fraudulent empire was that your attempt to kind of go wide and say, hey, look, we're all missing the bigger point here the bigger picture here because we're immersed in the daily and entities of Trump land. Basically to reset the narrative. Yes, I wouldn't say that my thinking was as noble as you as scribe, and I appreciate it's very flattering. But I would say that there are two things going on in that for me one is you're exactly right in this labyrinth of crap that that he froze out every day in the White House says that every day you get lost in it. And you wanna stand back? Oh, that's always been my habit. I've often felt that my view in politics was shaped by the fact that as a as a teenager in Washington DC Washington had a still exists. But this is pre Kennedy said at the national theatre a touring house for Broadway shows where a lot of the days when Broadway shows try it out at a town instead of in previous New York, they would come through in and be rewritten before your eyes. If you were like me hanging out there so much the manager took pity on you in a hired you as a ticket taker which I was so I I had this whole period of in my. Formative years in junior high school and high school of standing in the back of the theater after taking the tickets and looking at shows and work and seeing how the oil Simon and Mike Nichols. We're gonna fix the couple like second at which they did in Washington. And having that perspective on things, I've always liked the wide view. Even now, I like to watch show standing in the back of a theater if I can and so that's part of my sensibility. But it seems to be particularly served me. Well during Trump. Yeah. The other thing is that what I like about writing at New York magazine is and what I tired of being columnists writing every week 'cause you're always on that treadmill of indeed whatever thing is being thrown at you with that minute. I liked being able to stand back and looking for a longer view as a writer. It's more fun to write that kind of narrative. It's more interesting to me a lot of people can write a very. Good anti-trump screed. You know in saying har- are all the things we know democracy is being destroyed. He's a criminal which is true that bores me as a writer. So I keep trying to dig deeper in Luke wider. And so a lot of the pieces I've been writing and Trump's a great subject for when are, you know, I don't know if I'd be writing these pieces of Hillary were president or Jeb Bush for president we've got a long trail to get along trail. And so I find it aesthetically satisfying as well as politically satisfying to look white or look deeper try to find a narrative and try to make sense of it for myself in a way, that's beyond the momentary things would you can never freeze unless you're writing every day, you know, and I do short hot takes two for the magazine's website. But these bigger essays, I that's that to me is creative satisfaction. Hey,
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"Jackie's? Matt influences presented by Mohit Shangdong lice memorable. Moments. Must be moesha. Don. Welcome to Matt influence in this podcast. We've been talking to people who represent what I've been calling the long arc of creativity. People with long fruitful constantly changing creative careers. These kinds of career paths are kind of a marble to me because I think so many artists and creators most maybe are flashes in the pan. Even even really good flashes. They have a moment, and then it's gone so much rarer and harder to find those people who keep flipping the script who keep defying expectations and creating something different. So we've talked to actors like Ethan Hawke relative newcomers with their eyes on the longer prize at the director, Damian Chazelle constantly restless and innovative chefs like Dave Chang today. My guess is a man he was worn many hats, worn them, all exceeding. Well, Frank rich. Currently he's the executive producer of two of the best shows on television, veep, which returns for its seventh and final season is very twenty nineteen and succession, the breakthrough HBO hit of the year about privilege. And power and a family that there's a striking resemblance to the Murdochs, and maybe a few other powerful families, but Frank rich took a surprising and fascinating path to get here. He had a long run at the near times as theatre critic the most powerful critic of his kind in modern times once dubbed the butcher Broadway, which I thought was crazy because few writers have loved Broadway and theater more. But apparently Frank rich could kill us show with the stroke of his pen. He's also known to a lot of loyal readers for his essays on politics and culture, the ones he wrote for years for the op-ed page of the times, I maintain that the op-ed pages never been the same since he left. But thankfully, he continues to write the sharp and pointed essays for New York magazine, more than almost any other writing around these essays take big ambitious dabs at addressing the politics of the moment and the often wild currents of culture flowing underneath them. They make sense of the world. They make sense of Donald Trump who can do that. We have a lot to talk about today. So Frank rich. Welcome to Matt influence it. Thanks for having me, Jim. So I want to ask you about the. The sort of long haul of your career, and he done so many things said one so many different hats from legendary theater critic for the times to political SAS to now TV producer, and I was thinking about what the through line is of all that. And one thing I tie them altogether in my mind, at least, and I wanted to ask you if this is true is your appreciation of the art of theater and narrative, whether it's the dramatic structure play or the absurd magical realism of a political narrative that people are buying into is that what is that the through line for you? It's sort of is. I mean, that's very astute. Thank you. Yeah. I would say that. I grew up in Washington DC in a family that was not in politics. And I grew up in the city, not the suburbs. And I got interested in political narratives, it was almost like a kind of theater in a way, even as I fell in love with the actual theater because I was a very early age. I think being taken too Damn Yankees. And seeing a musical about the woebegone Washington senators beating the ankles for the pennant got me started in the fifties. So as always very conscious of how things unfolded in DC because I was keenly aware that things like the White House to capitol. Congress were like sets and the real city with sort of the backstage and people coming and going in the wings, and my stepfather was sort of what you now. Call a case lawyers. So I saw some of those people come to my house, and I realized there was something going on. And indeed in writing about politics. I always lie. Like the story and the one book I wrote that was solely about politics was about the narrative of how the Bush administration soul the war in Iraq. And indeed when I was when I was writing the book the first section ended with mission accomplished. Yeah. The second section opened with wait a minute. Where are the WMD's? I realized it was sort of like the first act finale of musical, and then the quiet number that opens the second act, so it's whole sort of blended in my mind, and then and then working intelligent courts. It's all about trying to find a narrative that works and characters and in a lot of it. What the television I've done is fictionalized saying the kind of stuff I've written about as a journalist like politics. Why thought it was interesting because the subtitle to that book is the decline in fall of truth in Bush's, America. Good all day. Yes. In the book, even called the Bush administration's response to nine eleven brilliantly produced, if you had a postscript to write what would you say about the decline and fall of truth in Trump's America, or how Brenly produced that devolution is. Well, it's interesting, obviously, the decline and fall in retrospect, you know, we're starting to look at Bush's. If he were Churchill. Quaint mary. Nixon is now a paragon of integrity. Trump whatever else has to be said for Trump. But I don't think this is an intellectual attribute, but he is an entertainer. He knows how to keep the story moving faster than anyone including the press can keep up with with him. He always has something up his sleeve. And so if something bad happens he'll manufacturer innocent like allege reporter allegedly laying hands on a on an intern in the White House briefing room, and he'll even change the film if. J's kind of Leni Riefenstahl's honest way that is his one great talent as far as the truth goes, he doesn't even know what it is. And it's and is so locked in his own bubble of falsehoods that he feels he can say anything in. And you know, I don't have to re hash the number of, you know, untruthful lies. He's been caught telling