17 Burst results for "Frank Perry"
"frank perry" Discussed on Celluloid Junkies Film Podcast
"Fifty-six playwright arthur miller flute nevada and rented a cabinet pyramid lake. He was there to take advantage of lax nevada. Laws get quickie divorce from his college sweetheart and wife of sixteen years mary slattery. Mary was a good woman. A perfect fit for miller. Bryant determinant idealistic. She supported the family while author wrote his early plays and the decision to end. Things had rested heavy on him. It might never have come. Had his success not put him in the path of the most famous screen siren in the world. Marilyn monroe millimeter maryland in nineteen fifty one while she was filming as young as you feel and they began exchanging letters. They met again in nineteen fifty five. Which is when the escalated. It is just that. I believe i should really die if i ever lost you. Miller wrote to her. It is if we were born on the same morning when no other life existed on this earth to get a divorce person had to reside in nevada for six weeks. Board and guilty miller had nothing to do but notice. The locals called the desert home. Free spirited cowboys middle aged loners barely making a living on the fringe of the world clinging to the talons of lost era. He wrote a short story. Which would eventually be published in october. Nineteen fifty seven by then he in monroe would be married a year and living in new york. He was facing charges for refusing to name names. Before the mccarthy hearings she'd had two miscarriages and was already regretting that marriage the idea to adopt miller short story into a screenplay came from sam shore an early photographer. Friend of maryland's at the time maryland was locked in a power struggle with twentieth century fox. She wanted to broaden her appeal as an actress in most serious pods fox was determined to continue casting her as the sexy flake. In lightweight comedies feeling helpless miller movie with a serious pot in mind for maryland he presented his wife with the finished screenplay author third miscarriage in what must have felt to marilyn like the saddest consolation prize. Epo reacted to the script with a mixture of fear and betrayal. Millan noted that alerts you off a few times the dialogue between the cowboys. She seemed withhold full commitment to playing. Rosalind it isn't difficult to understand. Why watching the misfits today. It's hard to see roslin as anyone but marilyn monroe not the lushest ditsy sex kitten that fox promoted but monroe is. She really was the daughter of an absentee mother who had never finished high school. Who couldn't handle seeing anything in pain whose beauty was remarkable that she found herself relentlessly pursued by men incapable of seeing pasta in the end maryland slash roslyn falls for the older and more philosophical of the three cowboys. Someone who can double as a kind of father figure. The similarities to maryland would not opaque and she must have worried about putting so much herself up on the screen especially for the american press. Who for years had regarded maryland as an uneducated non actress who's only dubious talent. Was i sex. Appeal for the misfits presented maryland with a serious pot in a dramatic film. Something she wasn't being offered by fox. When miller managed to wrangle john huston to direct the man. Who'd been so nurturing with her first film nashville jungle. Monroe signed up. The misfits was produced by frank. Perry for seven arts productions a subsidiary of united artists. It was the right studio for illiterate black and white film that was even from the outset. More artistic than a commercial exercise the timing was good for houston who was struggling to get his bio-pic of sigmund freud off the ground. Once wasserman the powerful head of mca here represented both miller and monroe through white behind the project. Everyone wanted a piece of the misfits in november nineteen fifty nine millon met with clark gable to discuss the role of limeland the king of hollywood. Who'd made rhett butler. an iconic. Romantic hero was not sure he understood. The screenplay wasn't a western or some kind of new age. Psychodrama miller explained that it was sort of an eastern western gable would never see the finished film or his performance in it which many considered to be his best. The data shooting wrapped. He suffered heart attack and was admitted to hospital. Twelve days later a second heart attack ended his life on november sixteenth nineteen sixty. The producers had a hard time getting insurance for their first choice to play purse. Langlands main rival for roseland defections. Montgomery clift was a method train. Doctor who caused a sensation in the late forties with star making roles in three back to back hits the search red river and the heiress chiseled in lean with a sexually. Ambiguous intensity clift was the first screen rebel and it was a tidal. He earned at a time when actors were still at the mercy of the studio system. Clift refused lucrative offers and instead established himself as a major box office. Draw one film at a time on his own. Terms clift was a perfectionist. Who had a reputation for being impulsive and temperamental. When hitchcock was if he'd had any trouble with clift on the set of. I confess the master of suspense ause characteristically and said well yes on may twelve nineteen fifty six when clift was halfway through shooting rain. Tree county with lissouba taylor a horrific car accident left him disfigured bedridden and in chronic pain. He was thirty six years old. The roy recovery was long and humiliating one with gossip columnist running before and after shots that negatively compared how his new face compared with his old one his dependence upon pills and alcohol increased the final ten years of his life. After the crash with famously described by acting. Kirk robert. Louis as the longest suicide in hollywood history on july twenty third nine hundred sixty six pleased to die of a heart attack caused in part by prolong substance abuse. The last person to see clipped alive with his private nurse. Lorenzo james the night that he died. James mentioned that they were playing misfits on television. In case clift cared to watch it absolutely not he replied they the last words he is known to have said principal. Photography on the misfits began on the eighteenth. July nineteen sixty in reno on a three point. Five million dollars budget. The fifty day shoot stretched to ninety the production plagued with injuries filtering temperatures sudden location changes and an often inebriated director at the helm. But the biggest problem was easily marilyn monroe houston's attempts to direct. His leading lady proved problematic. Maryland would not evasively to whatever he said. Then hold everyone up as she conferred in whispers with her acting coach. Paula strasberg polo was the wife of lee strasberg. Founder of the actors studio and a contentious figure on the misfit set leeann taken an immediate interest in maryland when she began attending his classes in nineteen fifty five by then she was already a major star. Struggling with mental illness substance abuse and a crippling sense of inadequacy the strasberg's to make themselves indispensable to her. Paula had been under contract. Maryland's coach ever since the filming of bus stop in nineteen fifty six and she perform the same function on the misfit set. As she did on every maryland set she fed the actress's insecurities and acted as the heavy when maryland was going to be light which was almost every day if she showed up to set at all that an intelligent and successful artists like monroe could allow herself to be subjugated by a person who as arthur miller. Put it wo- fantasies around her probably says more about her mental state than anything else when police tried to give the oscar winning director tips about how he could better direct maryland. Houston's reaction was ironic. According to manila he would listen to everything. She had to tell him with a seriousness. So profound as to be ludicrous. The frustrated director tried to be accommodating pushing the shooting. Start time back in our each day. Meanwhile the monorail miller marriage continued to disintegrate production stalled on august twenty seventh after marilyn checked into a los angeles clinic suffering from exhaustion shooting wrapped on four th of november nineteen sixty a half a million dollars over budget seven days later monroe and miller announced their plans to separate in july nineteen sixty one. Maryland would fly to mexico rather than nevada to obtain the divorce. Two years later she would be dead. The victim of a suspected drug overdose. Miller did not attend the funeral. Noting.
"frank perry" Discussed on Serial Killers
"In the fall of nineteen eighty twenty nine year old randy woodfield. Violence reached a new height when he raped and murdered his close friend sherry errors. He stabbed her repeatedly in the neck then fled her portland oregon home. The next day on october eleventh sheri's fiance let himself into her house around nine pm when he stepped into the bedroom. He froze horrified. By the sight of sheri's bloodied body draped across the bed when the police arrived collected samples of semen and blood but little else of note with no other physical evidence. Officers questioned sheri's friends. One person mentioned sheri's friendship with randy which was a relatively new development intrigued. Detective bob dorney did some digging and discovered that randy had recently left prison which was the first red flag. Then sherry's mother. Said she believed randy was her daughter's killer. She'd known him since he was in second grade at watch. Their hometown fawn over the young athlete but she always felt uncertain about him still. Her suspicion wasn't enough for an arrest. So detective dornier questioned randy. Who insisted he would never hurt anyone. Much less a friend during the interview. He was polite earnest and soft spoken. His demeanor made it hard for door. Nato believe randy had ever served time much less that he killed someone but still randy's answers didn't add up not only whereas allies vague but he refused to take a polygraph test. Investigators were conflicted. Randy didn't act like a killer but something felt off about him. So darn as team turned to the dna evidence just to make sure at this stage this meant blood tests which was a much more rudimentary form of the science. The blood they tested was type. O which seemed to rule out randy who was type b but oh type blood can be found in type a and type b. Unfortunately this fact wasn't considered or was dismissed and that was the end of that randy was taken off the suspect last and free to go about his life. Randy had walked away from plenty of charges for minor crimes but now he got away with murder and he was ready for more. Vanessa's going to take over in the psychology here and throughout the episode as a note. Vanessa is not a licensed psychologist or psychiatrist but we have done a lot of research for this show. Thanks greg to our knowledge. He hasn't ever been diagnosed as a psychopath. But randy displayed some of the key hallmarks of one and a two thousand ten case. Study by frank. Perry showed how manipulative psychopath could be under interrogation. Perry's analysis centered on interviews with psychopathic killers and warned that they don't just tolerate the hot seat. They enjoy it. The study quoted. Dr robert de hair who described the thrill as duping delight. This term fit randy quite well. When police declared him innocent he likely felt power over authority. Figures it probably also reinforced the notion that he could do anything. He wanted with zero consequence after skating through the murder investigation. Randy might have wondered what else he could get away with but while he considered his options randy wanted to relive his glory days so he traveled to washington to see his friend. Tim rossi tim randy medic at portland state university and live together in college back then. Tim had thought of his roommate as shy friendly religious man but five years on he hardly recognized randy he talked obsessively about college football his former team the packers not to mention women drinking and sex as if to make a point about his romantic life randy off excused himself to call girl. He knew it would seem that randy placed a lot of self worth in his ability to attract women before he was cut from the nfl. Randy felt the gratification of being a football star but now that he didn't have that he approached women frantically and desperately. He came on so strong that many women found him strange. Rejected him outright. Still randy was persistent so he collected dozens of number a week and he dialed them constantly. It feels fair to say that randy needed constant affirmation and attention and these phone calls helped that whether it was an old friend or someone he met once at a bar randy needed to call them even if it meant interrupting his weekend with his college friend. Tim wasn't sure about the new randy but it was a short visit. Plus he enjoyed the company because his girlfriend darcy. Fix another college apprentice had just broken up with him when he heard about. The break-up randy was strangely livid. This might have been because randy didn't react well to women rejecting him for example when his college girlfriend. Sharon broke up with him. He vandalized her family. Home in two thousand seventeen psycho dynamic behaviorist investigation of a sexual serial killer. Researchers propose that offenders choose victims due to displaced aggression if the attacker believes someone in their life had wronged them they targeted people who reminded them of that person. This might be. Why randy reacted so strongly. tim's news. Darcy had humiliated his friend and randy took that personally a few weeks later randy call darcy like many women. Darcy had gotten friendly phone calls from him over the years and they got to chatting eventually randy decided to pay her a visit. It's unclear what randy had mind at first but when he arrived. Everything happened quickly. Darcy's new boyfriend dog was also at the apartment and seeing the two of them together infuriated randy he pulled out a gun and bound their hands and feet with athletic tape then he raped darcy and shot them each in the head when they were both dead randy left the apartment careful not to leave any physical evidence behind when the murder was discovered. Police were baffled. The athletic tape randy used to restrain. His victims stood out but couldn't be traced so like with sherry. Investigators asked darcy's friends for help and randy's name came up once again. Officers questioned randy. But there wasn't enough evidence to make him a suspect so he walked away from his second and third murders with even less trouble than the first editor that randy only increased his criminal activities. He was frequently unemployed but maintained a fairly lucrative lifestyle by robbing fast food restaurants convenience stores. Tony a prison. Buddy disguised himself by using tape to cover his and held up. Businesses throughout nineteen seventy nine and nineteen eighty. Getting better every time in december of nineteen. Eighty randy with help from tony kicked off a string of small time heists over one hundred fifty mile stretch of interstate five the i five is the main highway that runs along the west coast from mexico to canada and randy loved driving it off dolphins signal to women and other cars to pull over so he could ask for their phone numbers to add to his growing collection and not only was the highway an opportunity for adventure and women. It was also great for crime when randy felt inspired. He pulled off the freeway and searched for vulnerable stores. There seemed to be only one criteria for his targets. The cashiers needed to be young women. Randy chose to rob teenage girls because they were weaker targets while this was a factor randy never missed an opportunity to scare women on december. Twenty two one thousand nine hundred eighty five days before his thirtieth birthday randy walked into a fast food joint near seattle inside. He noticed a young employee. Twenty five year old can mehan. He kept his eye on her and when she took a break to go to the bathroom he followed. Randy walked in as kim splashed cold water on her face he closed and locked the door behind him trapping her inside then. He pulled a gun from his pocket and held it to kim's head and sexually assaulted her instead of killing her when he finished he told her to wait five minutes so he could escape then he fled as.
"frank perry" Discussed on WCBM 680 AM
"Past the point at which you can deliver more Corona virus relief before the election. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, her Senate Republican rivals and President Trump Are not on the same page, and if they don't resolve their differences soon, Virus relief will have to wait until after November. 3rd Baltimore Man pled not guilty to federal gun charges Today, the FBI reports Frank Perry is allegedly connected to the far right Boogaloo movement, the same movement president for the kidnapping plot against Michigan Governor Gretchen Whitmer. Investigators say they found numerous tactical gear rifles and magazines after a search of his home. Mural dedicated to the late congressman Elijah Cummings on Saturday in West Baltimore, marking the first anniversary of his passing. The mural was painted on the side of the Union Baptist Church. A historic Baltimore hotel has been repurposed amid the pandemic, serving as a free isolation center for people with covert 19. Since May more than 600 people have come through the Lord Baltimore hotels doors. It's intended for people who aren't sick enough to require hospitalization, but who can't self isolated home? It's funded through federal Corona virus relief money. In downtown Baltimore at the Inner Harbor 66 degrees on Michael Filippelli 6 80 Wcbm news. I'm Lawrence immunity, and this is the Fox business report. Major averages closing lowers Washington lawmakers still appeared to struggle to reach an agreement on a Corona virus stimulus package ahead of a Tuesday deadline. The Dow falling 411 points domestic down 193 people down 57 shares of IBM or slipping in the extended session after big reported that its earnings were in line with Analystsexpectations. However, its revenues continue to decline for another. Quarter and Goldman Sachs is giving US staffers a half day of Haley on Election Day November the third to ensure they have time to vote while Canada Goose is gearing up for election Day by closing all of US stores, the outerwear chain will also offer paid time off to all of its staffers on that day, so.
"frank perry" Discussed on Bloomberg Radio New York
"Launching a new Siri's called looking for Lincoln. Hi. I'm Frank Barry. I'm a writer of Bloomberg opinion. And I'll be taking this RV across the country on a drive from New York to San Francisco following the Lincoln Highway countries in turmoil on it seems like the right time to go out on the road and to capture the country in this moment, but also to seek out those things that still bind us together, and that hopefully will pull us through. A Z said that is Frank Perry. He also served as director of public affairs and chief speechwriter for Michael R. Bloomberg, founder and majority owner of Blueberry LP. You could follow UPDATES from Frank's trip on Bloomberg. Quick Take Coming Up here. CEOs taking on social issues we hear from Ed Bastian, CEO of Delta Airlines. This is balance of power on Bloomberg TV and radio. There are a lot of news. Kaiser is off the chain. Everything in one place for you. Your X ray will be done there. The doctor will see you fear the labs are there for you. And then the nurses that work with you, Kaiser. They make you feel so home. They're there to meet you. I would not be alive today. If I had not had I feel really, really great knowing there's a place that I.
"frank perry" Discussed on Biz Talk Radio
"Wildly successful because he started only one nine years ago seven and has grown a lot since that that's better let's talk about the journey did you always want to be an entrepreneur you know I I look back and I see the seeds are being sown but I don't think that I really it was kind of presented as an option it kind of more content by default but what's really exciting is I do a lot of like mentoring and you know with younger kids and there's so much more aware of entrepreneurship so I think that's really changing and more people will have their sights set on that yeah I find that students showed me the truth of people the standard get out of college get a job nine to five yeah get a pension it's kind of going away yeah have you thinking outside the box and you know there's just so much awareness about business how to start off and so more and more people are are really doing their own thing I screamed why so my background actually architecture for seven years and I just became really interested in how to make architecture more fun and accessible for people think anything cool should be accessible not the other way around so I started playing around with using foods to get people more engaged in the architecture conversation and I call that far detection I went to Berkeley so I you know you have to have like a a movement a manifesto and I just started playing around you know with what that could mean and then my first job out of grad school was just imagine hearing and the recession had so as part of like lightening the mood at the office I started baking cookies making ice cream naming the combination after architects and it was literally comic relief for people who are being laid off sometimes easiest things I love the Berkeley campus emails bookstore so I think I I think it is yeah I am always a cigar in his mouth the car flavored ice cream do you think are thanks it seems like most people that are really successful follow their dream listening you know something about me it's easier that way yeah yeah I I definitely think so I think you can also the dream can mean different things so you know I was going down this path of design and I realize in introducing this ice cream dialogue around architecture is still needed you know packaging design a logo website and so I still be able to apply a lot of those skills and being in the food business which is I mean if I told my five year old south when I'm doing now is thirty three and like I'm when I scream laying sounds pretty a dream job and as you wildly successful as we said earlier and you've been written up everywhere who's your favorite Dodger great question I am a big fan of you know I like Richard Branson a lot I mean he definitely you know talk about branding umbrella for some money I think that's a really great approach because then the world's your oyster you know you can go from you know record labels airline sales down whole lot to found it may not all be successful but that's kind of the entrepreneurs right you're allowed to fail Richard Branson's name comes up in your more than any Steve jobs yeah yeah I do think that is I thank Richard Branson also seems like a pretty nice guy you know I I don't know him personally and I think that she is really I I I I would say I mean you know for me Steve Jobs says now definitely an icon I think his style of how he made his mission happen is pretty brutal yeah thank you so you know I can always say like to smile a lot and you know check things pretty happy and finds out a different approach what's what was scariest thing about stepping out on your own you know I've been kind of going down this path you know studied architecture undergrad and grad school my dad's an architect actually my dad's an architect my mom is an animator at Disney and I was thought they had the coolest jobs but I want to do something totally different and in my first job was architect act as me so I couldn't have been more like the two of them but you know you're sort of on this path and often you say well I'm gonna take a total left turn you know we bought this truck in off Craig's list for twenty five hundred blocks of my personal credit card and doing this ice cream kind of vision it was just so not that sort of you know going along this idea that you have that's very clear cut but I think you know I was twenty five when I started the company so you're pretty comfortable to Prescott that point so it's not like that overwhelming I mean I just sort of thought we have this vision when I do it yeah nothing nothing to lose you know on the Joshua case is our guess is CEO and founder of cool house H. a U. S. right I like that spelling on that yeah so architecture and ice cream what what anyone no not what makes so I think one thing is just with ice cream or with so many brands folding and a whole other audience that you want expect if you sort of think of Ben and Jerry's and rock and roll I mean they did that so well it doesn't necessarily belong there but the more you sort of integrated into that world and think of it at that like you know the Woodstock like ice cream and ensure accuracy and all that okay and it pulls in this other world you know architecture may not be as big of a reach as as you know rock and roll but we all are existing in spaces all the time so it's just a great way to if people want to learn about architecture by the names of our flavors like Frank Perry Mensah lands Richard Meier lamb and Louis the Conners our bacon ice cream great if they don't learn about it no harm no foul but also for me I think one of the biggest things that's come out of this is brand new design and they need strong visuals more than ever so if you have that kind of architecture mind anything about every little thing is going to be designed and how's it gonna tell story it actually has been an incredibly handy background for running a business the only friends yeah rising at apprising people say you know I'm usually working so hard that you don't have time for friends well you'd be surprised how many friends I spend so find a solution for ice cream headaches well you know it does tend to plague the industry to some degree however what I will say is I was going so fast running so fast and he wanted him to be right around zero degrees not like minus ten because you start to taste things Margaret tampons contain things better when it's not super super frozen so if you just give up those few extra seconds bill a better experience anyone can you know yeah well how about the work life balance I thank you know seven years and something I can say is I feel that I I have gone to that place where I have it part of that is is the luxury of having an amazing team around you where I was just in a bomb my wife and I went to the mall because for two weeks on a baby and she's almost six months pregnant and I wasn't worried about leaving everyone behind you you know it was like I know I know I have everything in good hands with them they can you know tackle the obstacles we have systems we have accountability and I think that to me is like you know it makes me feel bad that I'm not you know how to choose the six ounce which of course I want so much more about a certain level of success is that I can you know step away and everything's not gonna fall apart your first great piece of advice I want one of our angel investors it's kind of a mentor a coach named Bobby Markle actually dead at Cherokee jeans back we really kind of put it more on the nineteen also love bodies name for exactly Margolis you know he loves tequila you write great golfer he said you can walk for a while when you don't know it's there I think that's such incredibly valuable advice to especially young entrepreneurs starting out because you don't realize all the rules you're breaking and you just do it and that's a good thing because if you're not sure where you're going to just you know what kind of TV time around it and that's not gonna get you you know that's not gonna create relations and business on the other hand Vince Lombardi the great football coach to say I love players who run through walls for me but the one that walks around the lot that's my quarterback I love that guy your friends with a really good support and I think that Spanish and everything we can right right yeah I mean you know I'm sure some of them back there my life okay let's see how this goes but I think I think you know having that kind of buy in from your friends they're excited for you and it was such a funny business to kind of start I was like oh here's the speed up postal vans rock and okay this wacky ice cream idea and I was at a time when an artisan craft food was still reeling in a lot of sentencing and then of course they're also proud like as we've gone along the way in and found many were saying well we're necessarily have have thought if I've clearly you guys you know stuck with your vision and so great to have a trying to simplify your job your own ice cream truck I think that pretty much you know if you break it down do you have time for reading and other thing hobbies and stuff yeah so Hey I am as far as reading love the New Yorker I mean that I loved the pharmacy so well right now I always get the magazine age on the still like that but I even if I don't have time for the whole magazine I always read the restaurant radio and the TV and movie reviews I feel like I at least got an hour and maybe talk of the town the card the cartoon costume contest every week and we're competing I've come close a couple times yeah but I can't get it now you may have to make tough decisions use your gun do you bother research I would say it got over research but you want to do a combination of both sure because you know you you there's a certain amount of checking things out you don't go in blind the end of the day I think that's going to be the biggest winner player goes right the first right exactly what was the biggest disaster so many good ones I mean definitely you know the trucks again you try.
"frank perry" Discussed on Biz Talk Radio
"Sandwiches anything bars sold from trucks are brick and mortars and distributed at four thousand grocery stores all around the country and wildly successful because he started only one nine years ago all right seven and has grown a lot since there's better let's talk about the journey did you always want to be an entrepreneur you know I look back and I see that things are being sound but I don't think that I really it was kind of presented as an option it kind of more got to it by default but what's really exciting and I do a lot of like mentoring and you know with younger kids and there's so much more aware of entrepreneurship so I think that's really changing and more people have their sights set on that day I find that someone is sure to be the truth the people the standard get out of college get a job nine to five yeah get a pension going away in the yeah thinking outside the box and you know there's so much awareness about business how to start off and some more and more people are are really doing their own thing ice cream why so my background actually architecture for seven years and I just became really interested in how to make architecture more fun and accessible for people think anything cool should be accessible not the other way around so I started playing around with using foods to get people more engaged in the architecture conversation and I called it for protection I went to Berkeley so you know you have to have like a a movement a manifesto and home I just started playing around you know with what that could mean and then my first job out of grad school was just imagine hearing and the recession has so as part of like lightening the mood at the office I started baking cookies making ice cream maybe the combination after architects and it was literally comic relief for people who are being laid off sometimes the easiest things I love the Berkeley campus emails bookstores I think I I think it is yeah I knew them all as a cigar in his mouth cigar flavored ice cream do it seems like most people that are really successful follow their dream listening knows something about me it's easier that way yeah yeah I I definitely think so I think you can also the dream can mean different things so you know I was going down this path of design and I realized in introducing this ice cream dialogue around architecture is still needed you know packaging design a logo website and so I thought it was a pilot of those skills and being in the film business which I mean if I told my five year old self what I'm doing now is thirty three and like I'm a nice family sounds pretty and as you wildly successful as we said earlier and you've been written up everywhere who's your favorite on great question I am a big fan of you know I like Richard Branson a lot I mean he definitely you know talk about a branding an umbrella for some money I think that's a really great approach because then the world is your oyster you know you can go from you know record labels airline to whole lot to found a may not all be successful but that's kind of the conference right you're allowed to fail Richard Branson's name comes up in your more than any Steve Jobs yeah yeah I do think that is I thank Richard Branson also seems like a pretty nice guy you know I I don't know him personally and I think that she is really I I I I would say on you know for me Steve Jobs says you know definitely an icon I think his style of how he made his mission happen is pretty brutal yeah thank you so you know I could because they like to smile a lot and you know things pretty happy and finds out a different approach what's what was scariest thing about about on your own you know I've been kind of going on the past you know studied architecture undergrad and grad school my dad's an architect actually my dad's an architect my mom is an animator at Disney and I thought they had the coals jobs but I wanted something totally different and in my first job was architect act as me so I can have been more like the two of them but you know you're sort of on the path and also you say well I'm and take a total left turn you know we bought this truck in off Craig's list for twenty five hundred box of my personal credit card and in doing this ice creams kind of vision it was just so not that sort of you know going along this idea that you have that's very clear cut I think you know twenty five when I started the company so you're pretty comfortable to press at that point so it's not like that overwhelming I mean I just sort of thought we have this vision when I do it yeah nothing nothing to lose you know on the dosha case is our gashes CEO and founder of cool house H. a U. S. right I like that the spelling on that yeah so architecture and ice cream what what good I mean lobbyists no not about what makes so I think one thing is just a with ice cream or with so many brands folding and a whole other audience that you would expect if you sort of think of Ben and Jerry's and rock and roll I mean they did that so well it doesn't really belong there but the more you sort of integrated into that world and think of it as like you know the Woodstock like ice cream and ensure you're saying all that okay and it pulls in this other world you know architecture may not be as big of a region as you know rock and roll but we all are existing in space is all the time so it's just a great way to if people want to learn about architecture by the names of our flavors like Frank Perry manta lands on Richard Meier lamb and Louis the Connors are taken I screamed great if they don't learn about it like no harm no foul but also for me I think one of the biggest things that come out of this is brand new design and they need strong visuals more than ever so if you have that kind of architecture mind anything about every little thing is gonna be designed and how they're gonna tell story it actually is an incredibly handy background from running a business the only friends yeah right surprisingly he will say you know I'm usually working so hard yeah you don't have time for friends well you'd be surprised how many friends I spend a few find a solution for ice cream headaches well you know it does tend to play the industry to some degree however what I will say is I was going so fast running so fast and you want to be right around zero degrees not like minus ten because you start to taste things martyr taste buds can take things better when it's not super super frozen so if you just get those few extra seconds build a better experience anyone can you know jam or how much the work life balance I thank you know seven years and something I can say is I feel that I I have gone to that place we're havin part of that is is the luxury of having an amazing team around you where I was just in a bomb my wife and I went to the mall because for two weeks on a baby and she's six months pregnant and I wasn't worried about leaving everyone behind you know it was like I know I know I have everything in good hands with them they can you know tackle the obstacles we have systems we have accountability and I think that to me is like you know it makes me feel all that bad I'm not you know how much she's success which of course I want so much more about a certain level of success is that I can you know step away and everything's not gonna fall apart your first great piece of advice what one of our angel investors it's kind of a mentor or coach named Bobby Margolis who did I Cherokee jeans back to kind of put it more in the nineteen also love bodies name exactly Margolis you know he loves the six he said you can walk for awhile when you don't know it's there I think that's such incredibly valuable advice to especially young entrepreneurs starting out because you don't realize all the rules you're breaking and you just do it and that's a good thing because if you're not sure where you're gonna just you know it's like kind of to be top around it and I'm gonna get you you know that's not gonna create renovations and business on the other hand there's a lot of the great football coach said I love players who run through walls for me sure but the one that walks around the water that's my quarterback I love the your friends with like a support I think that Spanish and everything we can right right yeah I mean you know I'm sure someone back there my life okay let's see how this goes down but I think I think you know having that kind of buy in from your friends they're excited for you and it was such a funny business to kind of start out with my beat up old van Schrock and okay this wacky ice cream idea and that was at a time when an artist and Kraft food was still reeling in a lot of sense and see and then of course there also proud like as we've gone along the land and that many were saying what would necessarily have have thought if I clearly you guys gonna start your vision and so great that it and I'm trying to simplify your job your own ice cream truck that pretty much you know if you break it down you have time for reading and other hobbies yeah so Hey I am as far as reading love the New Yorker I mean that I love the long form it so well right now I always an agonizing at age on the I still like ten but even if I don't time the whole magazine I was with the restaurant review and the TV and movie reviews I feel like at least got an hour and maybe talk of the town the card the cartoon contest every week yeah I do we're competing I've come close a couple yeah but I can't get it now you may have to make tough decisions use your guns are you but research I would say it got over research but you want to do a combination of both because you know you you there's a certain amount of checking things out you don't go in blind the end of the day I think for instance that's going to be the biggest winner was right the first right exactly what was the biggest disaster so many good ones I mean definitely you know with the trucks again the pharmacy the former lining so the trucks will break down a lot especially in the beginning and there was one time you're doing a birthday party for Reese Witherspoon when she had the high property is so great and the whole you know the.
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"Also this huge twelve dominated dominated by Bette Davis in that movie. If those those are tens Well okay. Let's talk about Mommy Dearest. A little bit. I think the first half is Great Faye dunaway performance says you know I think it's a bad performance I think I fade dunaway when in response to the to the criticism of the movie in the years after it was was released. She at times she she would criticize the director. Frank Perry who I called Fred earlier. Sorry listeners don't right in please please write in. We need somebody. I want to ride in Zubi right. You just don't right into say. Oh Stevens said his name was Fred Perry. But it's Frank Perry but but writing about anything else literally even if it has nothing to do with the show so what's written on Wikipedia. She said she wished Perry had enough experience to see when actress needed to rein in their performances. I don't know if that's a direct quote probably not on holiday performance relations. How she said that in her autobiography verbatim? But that's sentiment that she wished he would have reigned her in but he to me. Frank Perry is the person in this production. Who knows what it needs to be right? He sounds autour of you will and I think the tour theory is bullshit but I think the right I remember that he you know he at least found the right people to help him make the movie that he thought this should be right. That opening montage is excellent. The way that it's shot the way that it's edited. Obviously everything that Faye dunaway is doing physically and that's the first half of the movie kind of goes off of that energy and I really wish that there was any of that in the second half of the movie because it's it's not even just the actress playing older Christina the energy of the movie. He's totally different. Because we're we're seeing more of Christina than we were before and that means we're seeing less of Joan so you're getting less affair dunaway's performance after after the scene where Joan Crawford is strangling her daughter on the floor for House adult daughter. There's never another big Joan unseen after that really and I think the movie suffers for it. I think the back half of trying to squeeze the rest of her life in. Isn't doing it any favors overall. I like them. I enjoy the movie but I I I I'm GONNA give it. I'm going to give it a six because as I like the first half more than I dislike the second half but the second half just feels like such a slog after watching the first half if if the second half was like a half hour I think it would be good or if the movie found some conclusion where when Christine is still a child. I think that need to to put an hour of older Christina really hurts it in the end for me. She had a career since then Diana scar which she he was nominated for a supporting actress Oscar about a year after the only thing you would probably remember her directly from is there was a Michelle pfeiffer Harrison Ford movie what lies beneath breath she was Michelle. pfeiffer is either sister best friend a psychic. I'm not sure but I just looked on wikipedia and it appears that she's only ten years younger than Faye dunaway that trouser rouses surprise me may dunaway. Was Not that old when she made this movie late thirties. Yeah that's the highest I gave In two thousand four episodes the BOOB recorded not published so far spoiler alert on this is the highest of given It is okay. I wasn't sure Ya yeah I mean I don't even anything higher than seven and those were a couple of times but just meet remember watching the first few seconds of me like who's questioning turning. This is a fucking great movie. This is me and then that was a strong enough impression that I stayed with her acting was like an excuse. Is there's an excuse for me to watch more made on away doing whatever she's doing that I don't care how bad the rest of it is. So that's true love true love. What about you chase your in your opinion is the important one here? Thank you I will lay out my thoughts on the whole movie and then I'll get my number. I agree with you. I think that back half is is not interesting especially after their final feud in front of the reporter. That's where I have less. Memories of the film can tell you about it. I do think that a ah it is rightfully lauded as a bad movie and for the same reason that people gather together to watch the room or any movie of that stature. People do the same with mommy dearest. It'll happen happen and I took offensive Dharma Fan of both your your fan of the room. Well exactly an with fan in the sense that it's a bad mood that it's a bad moved okay. So I'm a huge fan of how bad of course but I mean on how you feel about this Zach people compared to I mean I i. I still laugh as horrible as the concept is during the wire hanger seen that said if we're renting movies more on their cultural impact act if we enjoyed them and kind of going back to this whole debate about something like the green room versus mommy dearest. Green Room Greenbush Green. Good movie stories too gory for me. Yeah Anton Yeltsin. Tony'll Russian actors in Hollywood story and Green Room should have won this picture last anytime she didn't didn't want anything. What's the other film? He made solves blue ruin blue linen absolutely but if we are assessing missing this movie based on its impact and did it entertain us. Has it withstood. The test of time I would actually go. So far based mostly on Faye dunaway. Give the movie nine. Its imperfections. Add Up to about a one because no one is watching. This and I will say the movie is horribly edited to make up his awful it as Garish Arish editors getting lots of heat and such the editor at part of that is the director love to see knowing how much of this was filmed. I would love to see what's on the cutting room floor which I think is gone onto us forever but I would give it a nine because it look how long we've talked about it. And anytime I know no one who is ambivalent to this movie movie. Yeah Fair enough and so great. That crash won best picture in two thousand and five. I would put that much lower on the scale of one to ten. I in blew up something that still entertains us to this day. That still makes us talk. That sends us down the wiki trail of what happened on the set a nine. I'm all in great great. Stephen is there anything that you'd like to shut up and love yeah kind of keeping with the the. Maybe it new Hollywood would roots of this film. You know Faye dunaway came to prominence in Bonnie and Clyde which she started with Warren Beatty just last night I watched a movie. That certainly doesn't need promotion for me but probably people in our age group. Haven't many haven't seen the movie. Shampoo starring warns Hornsey constantly reference. To every script I write it was reference because it's like what what was based on a real person J. C.. Bring who was one of the victims of the Manson Sharon tate murders. Yes on the hardwood writing this characters in it yeah He's kind of based on him and also kind of based on Barbra streisand's hairdresser who then went on to become a big studio exact but he and a Warren Beatty is playing this hairdresser who loves to fuck and the whole movie which I didn't really loved to Faulk. Stop fucking right. Well who knows everyone. I guess I guess on your dated Madonna Donna. It's tough to feel like one fucking. The most in the relationship is a thing that I did not realize before watching is that this is the kind of movie that takes place all in one day. I did not know it was going to be that kind of movie. And it takes place all on the day of the nineteen sixty eight presidential election as this characters kind of lies and and schemes and general unpleasantness. All kind of catch up to him over the course of a single day. It's really fun movie to watch. It's only the Second Hal Ashby movie. I've ever seen after Harold and Maude. I'm such a huge fan. Yeah and it. It was great so I definitely recommend if you haven't seen it shut up and love it. slasher how `bout you since we're brought up blue ruin and green room. Ramle Jeremy Sagnier yes on. Yeah so I mean you know if you haven't seen this film's definitely do check them out that both fascinating amazing films but even his most recent film that I think is not getting some reason as much traction as the other two. I think it's because he was released on Netflix. That probably didn't help. Yeah but hold a dark hold. The dark doc is the two thousand eighteen thriller directed by Jeremy on year and Jeffrey right right and Alexander. Skarsgard what am I fades swatter my boys. I'm not into blonde boys. But he's he's a Tarzan type. Yes in the I mean look just check it out. It's me me telling you the plot. It's it's not going to describe how much of a masterpieces anything he really directs. Germiston ears frigging outstanding. Very unique kind of tight thriller. Simple plot simple. They're much about characters and small towns psychos. I guess is another way that he's interested. In what is the scary white trash version of enemy. That man has to stand up independent piece family against chance. You know them for some reason I never I probably because it didn't come out in theater I it just kind of slipped from my haven't seen it. I haven't seen that love you've got recommended and green room. So yeah maybe I'll check that out tonight. She's thank you so much for coming in. Is there anything you'd like to plug. Gosh you know instagram or anything on instagram. Yeah it's your spin classes. Oh sure you're in Eagle Rock Glendale or even if you're not willing to drive to them I teach at Rev of an Eagle Rock and sink is by REV now others rev cycle but I've pilates and high intensity and yoga so I think that it's now just shorthand. What a great place love it? What a great class? I took it. who need soil sidehill especially after? They're like supporting Our President what was your. Did you have a social media handle that instagram's probably the one. I'm more active on. It's M. as in Mary. Chase like the verb mccown as you correctly likely pronounced M. C. C. l. o. w. n. m. Chase mccown all one word and Matthew. My first name never gone by. It's not an actor thing. I was intentionally intentionally named chases my middle name. Have you ever but your parents call you chase correct. Everybody does have you ever asked them. Why didn't just make chase you? Firstly medically they like it double syllables single syllable double syllable chase. Matthew McCowan. Sounds a little less doesn't flow as well as my mom has said in hindsight she wishes she hadn't but I kinda like it there by her only regret about which was that dodgy trap shows that I am there once a month for the agenda presents. allstate the second Saturday each month. Seven o'clock the inner sanctum diversity. centric trick showcase with Improv sketch. Character stand up music. You can submit to that if you'd like to the agenda Improv. Jima Dot Com with have you to Stephen Wear can our audience members or anybody. Even if you're not podcast listeners audience members of.
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"Kelly rates I've I've only does it kill a Richmond pope over there and professor fraud bill Kristol and then David we are in studio David Harris of prosperity and and we are talking about dental embezzlement and so if someone is interested in connecting with you how did they find you the easiest way is our website triple W. dot dental embezzlement dot com okay alright so say for instance I'm a dentist say doctor calories from pope stands for it DDS sitting in my name that peach state and what should I be concerned about if I suspect something is going on in my practice the cardinal rule Dr pope is don't let the suspect know that there in fact a suspect okay if I'm stealing from you and I think I'm about to get caught I may do the equivalent of a hail Mary pass and you probably have lots of football fans in the audience and they all know that a hail Mary pass is what you throw when your your else is available down by six points in their twenty two seconds left in the game right kinda like the bears tried the other day and let's not go there sorry Sir point in this audience I know if I think I'm about to go to jail and that means that I'm gonna lose my social status and you know it's I'm going to have this criminal record that follows me around for a long time the list of things that I will not do to prevent that is pretty short what have you seen in in your experiences well the worst example I've ever seen of of making this mistake and having it cost happen to a dentist in Maryland and his name was Dr Albert row and Doctorow had a a woman who worked for him name chante joiner Hickman and chante was embezzling from doctor row and believe she was about to get caught so she came back to the practice one night when she knew that doctor role would be there by himself catching up on some paperwork and she brought her cousin with her for some muscle and the two of them took Doctorow who was a small Korean gentleman into the patient restroom and beat him to death and I probably don't have to make this story any worse bill but I'm going to sure go ahead the amount of bezels list seventeen thousand dollars they killed over seventeen grand yes well for some people might be a whole lot of money well it's more than that it's also the getting arrested going to bears and all that is the consequence it wasn't it wasn't the money per se but in in in Allen's stealing more than ten thousand dollars is a class a felony so the the the potential prison sentences ten years now no would somebody on a first offense for seventeen thousand dollars get that punishment now provide but that may not have entered into the calculations and this is what what Kelly likes to use the term this went from being a white collar crime to a red collar crime that's rich Brody's term region Frank Perry's term that they came up with one white collar crime results in murder yeah and it's well it it's not the only example of this but the point is if you suspect embezzlement the the confirmation process needs to be one that is is carried a very stealthily and unfortunately all a lot of people if they try to do it themselves will will trample in in the garden right and it's it's important that the process be done in a way that that the suspected employees don't have any ability to realize that that the light is about to be cast on plus you don't want to if you're saying you don't want to mess up like the the records the financial records and stuff which would be necessary in order to prosecute a good case but you don't want to tip the person off so they can go in and start trashing the computer files or as as we saw in one case burning the practice that wall so yes we we we don't want any of those things to happen either or if if the dentist suspicion is misplaced which happens sometimes then you don't want to go back to an otherwise perfectly good employee and say you know what there was a I'm a moment in time when I didn't trust you so I had an audit done but are you you did fine yes that's what happened in the Dixon Illinois case with Rita crown while when her fried was discovered one of the things that campus once and was told is back the mayor was wait wait we have to we could be wrong if we're wrong we can ruin this person's life and so that really helped them back from coming forward immediately but how long does look one of your investigations take how long do you have to keep dealing with this person without showing any signs the entire investigation bill typically takes about eight to nine weeks but having said that if embezzlement is happening it's our expectation that will find it much more quickly than the last day that we're working on the file right so you know I over four weeks would be a pretty good gas and you're actually right it's it's very it's a big ask to say to a dentist or or any other business owner you know you have to go in and put on a happy face and pretend like nothing's happening while internally you know your your guts are kind of turning about this while well you have given us a lot to think about and I hope that any dentists are aspiring dentists out there listening and taking notes your website again if they want to find out more information about what you do and have a keep their practice safe triple W. dot dental embezzlement dot com and where to next for you I am off to Memphis in the morning talking to some are dentists yeah I'm I'm speaking and and the dental society there so I'll be addressing an audience of dentists and head over to Graceland for the tour yeah I think I might there you go and what we can't coming up on the show we have a great story great man Q. one hairy Hester is joining us to share his story and it's more cake I'm sure you can the market because you're over there yeah I've done my ratio should ration of cake over here okay well that case let us take a short break and we'll be back with the cake pan right after this on WGN seven twenty hi welcome to this ad for new 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"frank perry" Discussed on To Live & Dialogue in LA
"Should you take breaks. Should you take naps. Dan gives answers to all of these questions. Based on the extensive extensive research that he's compiled the full title of his book is when the scientific secrets of perfect timing. And it's just a really fun. Great read the book spent four months on the New York Times bestseller list and was named a Best Book of two thousand eighteen by Amazon good reads ibooks and other places. Dan's main argument in the buck is that we spend so much time focused on what we're doing we ignore something equally important. which is when we're doing? Dan is written four New York Times bestsellers. His Ted talk on the science of motivation is one of the ten most watched. Ted Talks of all time with more than twenty million views. He has a BA from northwestern a JD from Yale and honorary doctorates from Georgiana and other places and this is his second career by the way in the ninety s he was chief speechwriter. Raider to Vice President Al Gore now rape before we bring in Dan. I've gotten emails from listeners and people have reached out on twitter asking what what I'm watching but I'd recommend so I thought I'd give it a quick recommendation once in a while when I see something I love so on the flight home from La. Last week I watched a movie that I've been meaning to watch forever. It's called the swimmer from nineteen sixty. It's ours burt. Lancaster and was written by Eleanor Perry. It was directed by Frank Perry but but he was fired and a real young Sydney Pollack came into finish it now. I know this is a news to anyone who's seen it but oh my God. It is one of the most extraordinary movies I've ever seen. The movie is based on a John. CHEEVER's short story from the New Yorker so one of its big. Themes is the suburban Malays and dark underbelly of the suburbs. That cheever's just so. Oh good at the movie came out the after the graduate when studios were trying to figure out how far into surrealism and postmodernism. They could go. This movie goes far early in Caster. Plays a middle aged suburban. Dad who swimming in a neighbor's pool looks out over the Canyon and decides who's GonNa swim meaning. He's going to go house to house swimming across their backyard pools until he reaches home. People think he's crazy of course but he's determined as he goes. We meet the owners of all the houses on his route and a mystery and sense of dread about what's really going on with. Lancaster permeates every single scene. The people in the houses become more and more cruel him as he progresses and he reveals himself to be more and more not the guy we thought he was in the beginning. I don't want to anymore but go watch this movie. Lake Lake Seriously go watch it tonight without further do bestselling author Dan Oh Um hum so I read when over the weekend And I absolutely loved it. You know I'm I am someone who is really obsessed with trying to figure out The best time of data rate. So we're all my friends were screenwriters and TV writers do. We ran in the morning to Iran in the afternoon when our when our brains when when is the most conducive to get you know creative writing done to get pages done and it sounds like maybe those are different answers based on reading your book But I thought maybe we could start by you explaining the Linda problem because I was fascinated about how you sort of saying. We screwed up later in the day. The Linda problem is really interesting problem. It comes from a fellow named Daniel Conman. Who is a psychologist who won the Nobel Prize Economics and early two thousands? I love him in Rhode. Great Book Thinking Fast and slow..
"frank perry" Discussed on KZSC 88.1 FM Santa Cruz
"Dot FM slash give and we appreciate your support and I'm back with Lisa Robinson and and so so the you said the redwoods exhibit is up until when until just after November first uhhuh uhhuh social and then December aha aha and the other you all veterans day dinner you've got that coming out right that's a that's a very big event for us this year we've also partnered with that for vets so this is a dinner that we is held out sick pogs composites restaurant and lounge in boulder creek we have a wonderful program including the singing of but the each branch songs of eight the veterans get to we do is put on a wonderful sing along with the piano accompaniment we have a public museum so vet's cut she bring them memorabilia and and put them out and show the stories and as I mentioned we partner with the F. that's what that's the Shia and in eighty eight AM program called operation embrace well if if if if we if you want to you can bring a fleece blankets to the dinner and that will be distributed by vets by vets are two veterans as a holiday gift to serve as a Christmas gift and so they're hoping to be able to distribute around two two hundred blankets and we hope to help them with that good good very very community oriented to say the very least and I'm I should mention that if if people know of of that that would like to attend the dinner we do have a limited number of sponsorships available for those but if they would like to attend and so you you mentioned to about the Smithsonian connection and the and the rarity of of any of the them sharing our our or allowing their exhibits to be right this is a this is a program through the Smithsonian museum on main street program and these are exhibitions the travel trouble the United States of in California the exhibitions only only go to five locations in in the US in California California we've been very fortunate that we have already hosted two of these exhibitions and we have a third that will be hosting in twenty twenty five that exhibition will open up the fell from location in in in the fall of twenty twenty and we will host it for seven weeks so we very much looking forward to to having happened that exhibit it's cold water ways and it examines the use of water not just from the practical standpoint but also from the at at the impact it has on people impact environmentally spiritually and will be adding to the to the exhibition local local stories of water and how we use water in the summer runs about and in Santa Cruz County the pleasure in Oklahoma and also for of third these the water needs as well recreation is a very hot topic water in Santa Cruz County world yes yes yes no matter where you look there's an opposing side almost in the side you can take right and so we'll be examining some of those stories too aha yes and and and you have a holiday craft exhibit coming we have our annual holiday craft event and that is probably one of its own longest running event one of our most popular we empty the museum in boulder creek and completely empty it of of exhibition space of the the we put paper down on the floor so that families compel very comfortable about making a mess in the space and and people we we now on to the second generation families that are enjoying making different types of of of holiday displays or ornaments or decorating cookies as all sorts of things the time that they can do it so it's it's it's a wonderful holiday event immediately after immediately after that is when we hold off holiday community exhibition thank you hello Dolly us hello dollies yeah conociendo December so he's going to be there it'll be toll collections but also some roadblocks to so home yep all the new old and new hi and and and and Jerry now robots could good good so so tell me how how the next exhibits are decided on I mean who sits around and says I know let's have one on something well that's a touchy interesting question because we plan our exhibitions at least a year in advance and often it's is driven by what's actually going on in the community so we have been we partnered with the museum of natural history on several exhibitions where where we've worked with with the curated to develop an exhibition which is first hosted at the museum of natural history and then we'll move up to the sun runs about a museum this year we did that with the pastel exhibition by and Telemann and that was of a wonderful wonderfully successful X. exhibition of pastels the depicted our parks in Santa Cruz County sometimes is dependent upon if there is a traveling exhibition thought it feels appropriate to bring to a location in the sun runs of Ali and we've done that with walk comes home which was at a California based exhibition talking about letters that were written by servicemen and women who returned back home to California with with water ways it was an opportunity again to bring a Smithsonian exhibition to the sun runs about it was a very it with it's only going to be in California for a a small window so that kind of framed when not when we would want to be a part of that also with developing an exhibition which is based on it's called I can handle both I can handle both was at the slogan used in California during the women's suffrage movement and neck and of course were at the anniversary of the federal women's women's right to vote so we've been developing an exhibition on the women's right to vote and examining why the why the equal rights amendment has never passed not a not a lot of people don't realize the impact that that I'm even even though it was written in nineteen twenty three the fact that it is never past in in the United States it is is is hugely significant and so it's looking at the history behind why that has not happened and it also examines the real importance of the rural vote in California cheering that during the election because places like San Francisco did not pass the women's right to vote in California but it was like it was place like at Santa Cruz that really have an important role wow so thanks again from you what we didn't talk about is telling people easy easy to find how to get to the museum right well I website is SOV museum dot com we have our directions on on the website but we very easy easy to find where on the south side of boulder creek as you enter boulder creek in a the old Episcopal Church buildings so big signs you should be able to find good good yes I know I've funded several times of course and and something I wanted to ask you to and you were talking about when we were talking before the program started about how the museums do and don't work together all of our history museums and the the other U. museums in so you were saying about the history fair it happened in capital of this year that haven't been capital of this year it was a history focused fare so it fits to him it was targeting the history organizations but we also have of what if establish something called the Santa Cruz museum's partnership which included not just the history organizations but the art galleries and the nature center is to find out worked what to put together a wonderful brochure and on the website so that the that's another aspect of how old the museums have worked together in the past I think that in it for the sun runs about a museum as I mentioned we work with the SNP's museum of natural history also the center's museum of art in history what very closely with Frank Perry of the capitol Historical Society and also with developing a relationship with Norris center here at UCSC will be they'll be developing an exhibition that will open at the Fulton location and in the winter of twenty twenty next year and be out for about fifteen of fifteen weeks listeners may know that the Norse center does not have their own exhibition space and so they will be developing an exhibition Pacific before the Felton location which we will host for about fifteen weeks huh that's grand that's great yes yes yes so and see you covered almost everything I can think of here and your next week to wait in the the next exhibit known what more we're good we talked about hormones and get on and right so we have hello don you know all the way to community foundation they gave you a grant they didn't want to get that in there right they did we applied for a grant for exhibition related materials for the fall two location so this these are great wall panels of books I mentioned that we won't be hanging panels on the walls of the building so these a standalone brick wall panels that a reconfigurable movable and exhibition cases so they'll be specific for the for the Felton location so this was a one four grand it also includes storage racks because we know that folks in Felton are very eager to donate a historic items to the museum and we know that they have they want them to be on location in Felton said there's a small area which currently the children's the children's library you're in the library that will be developing into what we call a visual storage space for those for those items that are donated to the phone location uhhuh effect we had a wonderful item donated to us just last week which is a a a fro looking tool that was made by the blacksmith in Felton a robot some and that she has his stomp his name in the in the metal work only on the front so that on on an exhibit so you've got a real busy year ahead of you yes we do but I mean really I mean changing the museum to set much and bending and deciding well enough that doesn't go here known goes over there right all of that hot now hot how can people get in touch and I mean aside from driving up there how can they find out you have a newsletter right we do we we have that we do have a newsletter and you cannot she read the newsletter online on the website so it's W. W. W. SLV museum dot com our phone number is eight three one three three eight eight three eight two Nicole Berridge is our director.
"frank perry" Discussed on WGN Radio
"It's it's starts later this week yeah Thursday morning they've already closed down the road and traffic is miserable it already start I think they they close Columbus down notice of okay as ago election was gonna get all messed up I can just see it from here that's bill Cressy that's the voice you're listening to he is a partner in crime with Kelly pope was also here of course this is true crime I'm Catherine like this is WGN Kelly did the spectacular interview she has a podcast with bill as a matter of fact and they talked Kelly spoke with rich Brody who's the department chair professor university of New Mexico tell a little bit again about what we talked about with rich Brody number and hit the second half of this interview now your bridge that does research in red collar crime exactly fellow accounting professor at university in Mexico and I'm just fascinated by his research in a topic and I think when you are a mix financial fraud with murder you have read collar crimes so think breaking bad do you ever watch that on I AMC this is sort of rednecks echo yeah yeah when I went to visit him I went to all the breaking bad so I went to the howls well I saw the restaurant and I just had to do the brake pads but but you know it's funny Kelly is my partner in crime and she's fascinated by murder should I be nervous you really yeah are a little more this rich Brody interview with Kelly pope when I think also is when we when you take this conversation outside of law enforcement we think about the average everyday employee we often stumble upon scenarios and situations and you think about some of the research done by the A. CFE and their report to the nations and they talk about how broad is often discovered by accident using that as our basis of a lot of us might stumble upon something by mistake it might be a friend or just a colleague at work and you might stumble upon something you might approach them and then you might approach them again and so I think why your research is so important is because you are really stress into people why you have to follow the organization protocols in the compliance process that they have set in place because a lot of times we think we can handle these things on our own and in fact we your research shows is that it could be deadly absolutely and an eight you could even take it a step further that it doesn't even have to really be work related you know a friend could tell you about something that he or she did you don't work at the same place of business and and that individual who has told you that could subsequently start rationalizing I shouldn't have told you you know and again the best solution for me here is to eliminate you said that this information can't go anywhere and and this is relevant in all walks of life so hi one night when I do I'm not when I do my presentations and I'm asked to provide a summary that tagline in the summary for the presentations is always this presentation may save your life that's great it it's really an awareness issue and you know there are many areas that I've looked at where this is very very significant and at the top of the list is probably issues relating to the elderly well let's talk about what happens to the elderly maybe we can talk about some cases sure you know with the elderly and and a living example of this you know my my mom lives a couple thousand miles away from me and I have to rely on other people to help out with my mom she's got Alzheimer's and is really not able to make all of our own decisions on a daily basis and so one of the things that I have done is is hired a a care giver for her and many of the examples that I could give you relate to care givers and this is where this gets really dark and really scary there are examples of care givers who they begin to steal from the individuals that they're taking care of so I can actually give you there are a real case there was the case in in Tampa Florida a few years ago and the care giver was taking care of this elderly woman she was stealing from her she was stealing her jewelry she was stealing money out of a bank account and she began to get paranoid you know this elderly woman is of eventually gonna figure out or someone else is going to figure out what I'm doing and the rationalization here we go back to the falcons Hillman homicide triangle was I don't want to get caught this will ruin my life so in this specific case she began to very slowly poison this elderly woman and it took a little bit a little while she was using pain killer she was Hewlett using anti depressants all of this came out in the autopsy report and eventually she actually did kill murder this elderly woman and the only way that she really got caught was the elderly woman's daughter who lived out of state I came to town to put on a funeral for her own deceased mom went to the bank to get the money to pay for the funeral and the account was overdrawn and that started the investigation and laid back to the actual care giver and this is not an isolated incident there are several examples that have made the news out where it's apparent that these crimes were actually right collar crime and those are the ones that we know about so rich I know that in your presentations you're off your offering awareness but when we think about elder abuse an elderly fraud abuse are there any tips that you leave your audience with yeah I mean there are a lot of things that you can look at and there are little tips that that come up just in terms of for example the most simple thing reviewing the elderly persons bank account if if you're reviewing the bank account you'll see the withdrawals does anything look you know out of the ordinary in this situation you you it's like a lot of things with fraud the more effort you put into it the more likely it is that you're going to be able to find something and so you know for me if I go and visit my mom I have to make a little bit more effort to look for her valuables are they still there does it seem like things are missing and you know my mom is probably not going to be the one that's going to tell me any of these things so I have to kind of figure these things out on my own you can you can try to educate folks but the education really needs to go to the children not the parents because at most in most of the situations are you can tell the parent anything you want but once they're on their own and if they have memory issues and things like that it's not going to be very effective monitoring or asking bankers to be more involved is a possibility in in some situations you can have a personal banker and the personal banker might be aware of situations where things look odd I had a case here in New Mexico where an elderly woman was being defrauded by a a real con artist and he would dress up in a suit go to her bank and he cashed in all of her I are a lamb it makes no sense that this gentleman would do that on behalf of this woman and the bank unfortunately did not ask a lot of questions and he was very successful to the tune of six hundred thousand dollars which was which was pretty much everything she had and she had no family and she was in an assisted living facility there was just a horrible case to see but thankfully he was convicted and sent to prison well so I'm a switch gears a little bit because we also have situations where lawyers or accountants might discover a client's or Kylie engaged in some fried type scheme any stories are cases where the accountant or lawyer ends up getting murdered oh yes there are there are plenty of those Thursday actually a pretty famous case which fortunately had I don't want to say a happy ending because the only thing happy about it was that the CPA with not actually killed but we had an individual working for price Waterhouse coopers and driving to work one day all four tires on his car exploded and he just happened to be working with the DOJ on a very large illegal investment schemes and so the odds of all four of your tires blowing up as you're driving to work one day highly unlikely that something like that would happen the FBI did get involved they they really could never prove anything but that was one of the first cases I had ever come across mail recently actually wrote an article with with Frank Perry about an individual and her name was Sally Robach and Sally was in insurance auditor for the North Carolina department of insurance and when we think about high profile job like working for a big four accounting firm or something like that and being involved in a very high profile case that's one thing but this was in insurance auditor and her job was to you know go to various insurance agencies and investigate anomalies and so she was sent to an individual's insurance office she met with him there were feelings that the individual had probably embezzled insurance premiums so people were paying their insurance bills and he wasn't submitting their payments anywhere he was pocketing the money Sally was basically questioning him and just to be blunt about it the guy murdered her he beat her to death doctor in the woods they eventually found the body the trail did lead back to him they asked him why he killed her and he said she asked too many questions wow so what did Sally had done well you know you wonder if they've made any changes after this case occurred in reading about the case and reading the comments made by the public relations people what they basically said was this was just a typical routine case opt for Sally we we are insurance auditors do this all the time they look at the finances are looking at the book we don't expect these people to be put in danger and so you know that the easy answer is you don't let people go alone or you don't let people go to their locations you force the people to come to them but that's not gonna allow you to have easy access to all the records necessarily and again this is just one example.
"frank perry" Discussed on WGN Radio
"Talking about what they've done in the fact is we're all in the dark weapon but then you mentioned that Europeans have done a better job at maintaining their information close to the vest and that can fix me because I think I think of us as an international world now everything's everything everywhere pick capital ones all over Germany and sure but is that not the case so we we really that far behind the eight ball well I like to think we're about five years behind the eight ball maybe ten and the problem for me is is we as Americans we're very individualistic Europeans are not like that Europeans are are are people who grow up together they they worry more about the community than we do in America and I think because of that what is what about ourselves so I think that they get into politics but I think that's why we have to put that that we have now is because of the stop a week until we get to the point where Luke we care about each other I think we'll continue to see the stuff that's a problem will likely need to sing we are the world right now just click here that if we did the Jennings brought it up about the way Europeans are and again you don't make stereotypes about different nationalities and such but you in Europe it's they've always been very close to the vest with their private information like there is you can be written up if your company and you distribute the company let go of the telephone book so that people can mail Christmas cards to each other that's a violation of the law of interest in their run to cast that brought all over again but it all much more open with a lot of our private information where many Europeans are much more tight lipped with that and again we're seeing we're suffering the consequences from that because as you say it there's an it's an international element of fraud and such in that yeah I like to say fraud never sleeps because mall we're awake here there's someone on the other side of the globe who is working hard to separate you from your money Deutsche Bank has got problems too don't they that means it back to London everybody everybody yeah but so yeah so David you to sit down buddy no more crime bit coin yeah is there anything else we want to discuss with bread or should we move on to our to our next the thing we want to you want to look right okay print thank you so much for for staying up late again in helping us navigate this will Meyer yeah thank you so much I really appreciate your breath really nice our mission to do this for us and to be so honest to and he's what does he do for a living now do you know breath doesn't he's he can't be a white hat you said right because he was a black cat so we can be a white hat now loading you on the air for something you said off the air you don't know what to say covering your face and radio doesn't really help Kelly he's a more often it is a lot of workshops and training and really helps people protect themselves he's a white hat behind the scenes a campaign official like work for G. as a what happened he can he can do what he does that's excellent all right so what else we want we want to do next we will talk about next well we're gonna Jack I'm a new aspect of crime which is this area caught red collar crime it's funny because I think a lot of people when they hear true crime they often think of murder and and when I think of crime I think of accounting and finance a lot you know a lot of the stories lead to I think all roads lead back to the money anyhow but red collar crime is when you have a white collar crime that results in murder and I have a friend and colleague of universe New Mexico name Richard Brody who says a fascinating research area and so I spoke with him on Thursday and his main interest is is fraught in true crime just like you said yeah but the aspect is red collar with the red colors the emphasis that he's he's sort of fallen into like are you crazy actually created this he can he and Frank Perry who's an instructor at DePaul came up with this term okay coined the term and do a lot of research and most of the cases that we see in the media are about red car we just don't use that term exactly and I want to come back to something I said to you a few weeks ago which is it I find it fascinating and kinda aggravating we have to have all these different names for the different levels of crime when really you're just a murderer you did it for money and okay it's a red color but you really are just a bad human being a murderer knowing that type of scheme I think helps us understand the kinds of controls we have to put around it self esteem so yeah that that name helps us it helps you to signify what how what exactly that have transpired in the crime okay so we have a little bit of ridge road you have already a little clip okay sashes ready for us this is rich Brody the department chair professor university Divac's Mexico discussing this main interest of fraud in true crime and red collar crime with Kelly this week so rich thank you for joining us on our true crime segment if you could introduce yourself and tell us a little bit about you sure my name is Richard Brody and I am the department chair at the university of New Mexico I'm also a professor here and have been in academia for about thirty years after having careers in both public and private accounting and my main area of interest relates to fraud and true crime issues so when you say when I say true crime it means something when I see true crime to you it means something else would that mean to you well you know I am fascinated by real world stories and some academics are criticized for being in their ivory towers but I've always been interested in issues that affect most people on a daily basis and so for me when I think about true crime I think about real cases relating to areas that I am interested in what areas primarily and and the focus being on very practical research and practical presentations I like the people to listen to me speak listen to me present and feel like not only did they learn something new but they're going to have I'll even say a better life because of what they learned you made your career on developing this a new term your term is a little Graham so if you could tell us a little bit about your area of expertise sure and and I'm glad you got to say that first it is very Graham and all a lot of the presentations that I do I I call it scared straight the white collar crime version and what that really leads to is this area of white collar crime might get Eyler crime he said again red collar crime red collar crime which amazingly very very few people have heard of but every time I do a presentation it's one of those show of hands how many of you have heard of right collar crime and unless they've had me as a professor there's usually no hands that go up in the air when we talk about red collar crime will basically a dressing would be white collar criminals who end up in the violent crime arena and we we've got to the point now where we can actually be very specific white collar crime criminals who commit murder are called right collar criminals so we could also referred to this as fraud detection homicide a lot of times then we're watching shows movies really watching red collar crime stories a lot of times we really are and and I think that your your listeners are going to find out once they get a better feel for what red collar crime is they're gonna notice hopefully not every day but they're gonna notice when the reading the newspaper or watching the news and they see a case being described they may say to themselves gosh I wonder if this was the right collar crime so when we talk about red collar crime what we're what we're really seeing is that these red collar criminals they have the mindset that when someone is potentially on covering a fault that they committed that they rationalize that the best solution to this situation is to actually kill the person so they're rationalization is death we think about the front triangle or or we talk about the fried diming yet but when we think about the fry triangle we think about opportunity pressure rationalization so their rationalization is are their way out is killing someone white and we actually and and I work a lot with Frank Perry who actually coined the phrase himself red collar crime and I saw a brief little article that Frank wrote many years ago and we ended up connecting and that's really how I got into this trying to extend the concept a little bit more but we have something that we call the fraud concealment homicide triangle season going with that is the fraud can still make homicide triangle alright so believe it or not it's the exact same elements that you find in the fraud triangle it's pressure opportunity and rationalization but the issue is somewhat different so if we think of a situation where someone has committed a fraud and someone else is now aware of this so it could even be that the fraudster told someone that they committed a fraud because it makes them feel better to get that off of their chest but now if we take this for concealment homicide triangle the pressure is somewhat different usually when we talk about the fraud triangle the pressure is you know I embezzled from my employer because I have a gambling addiction or a drug habit in the fork to cinnamon homicide triangle what we're dealing with is what's gonna happen if it becomes public information that I committed a fraud you know I'm I'm likely going to go to jail it's very likely going to hit the newspaper any respect that I have is going to be gone in the community I will suffer financial losses it's actually also embarrassing my family may stop for you know loss of status so the pressure that these criminals feel is quite high so it's it's interesting how the human mind works because one would think that by killing someone would not necessarily be the solution to your your your fraud scheme white and really what this comes down to is most of the people that are doing that they probably don't have a history necessarily of violence in in many of these cases it's almost a snap decision that someone makes and again they're just kind of thinking of the consequences of their actions and instead of taking responsibility for those actions they view this the darkly as a way out and and of course most of us would probably say well killing one person isn't going to make the problem go away it's like the trolley car do you ever do that your course the trolley car dilemma yes it and and you know what the trolley car you know we're we're giving someone will call it an ethical dilemma and they really have to think about it you know do I want to steer the car this way and only one person dies or do I want to let it go on its current course and killed six people E..
"frank perry" Discussed on News Radio 920 AM
"Org. That's TJ Martell dot org. Ron here. The stories we're working on today. There's been a confirmed case of measles in Boston. And that person reportedly visited several public places last week where people who have not been immunized could be at risk. Tim mcdonald? The medical director of Rhode Island department of health tells eyewitness news people who are vaccinated should be. Okay. Well, if you're vaccinated nearly have the risk. I think should keep getting the vaccines like they've been doing it. I think we should be aware of what's going on in the world. I don't think we should we worried about what's going on in the world since the beginning of this year. There have been nearly four hundred cases of measles reported in fifteen states. A providence man is being sentenced to nine years in prison for DUI death, resulting after a fatal crash last year. The state attorney general's office says Brian Torres pleaded no contest in superior court. Prosecutors say Torres was driving on Atwells avenue in providence on October eighth when he went through a red light and hit another vehicle killing the other drivers city resident Frank Perry junior. And seriously, injuring a passenger the new providence Vincenzo station is open yesterday was the first day for the new location for car and truck owners to get their vehicle identification number verified in the parking garage at three forty nine west fountain street, that's across from the providence. Police department headquarters stationed had to be moved because of the poor condition of its previous office in a building Ernest street. Arizona Republican US Senator Mark. Mkx Sally says border agents are being overwhelmed by drastic increases in asylum seekers in her state. She spoke yesterday at a round table discussion at the ice office in Phoenix. They were saying sometimes sixty.
"frank perry" Discussed on News Radio 920 AM
"Run here at the stories. We're working on today. There's been a confirmed case of measles in Boston. And that person reportedly visited several public places last week where people who have not been immunized could be at risk. Tim mcdonald? The medical director of Rhode Island department of health tells eyewitness news people who are vaccinated should be. Okay. But if you're vaccinated nearly have the risk. I think should keep getting the vaccines like they've been doing it. And I think we should be aware of what's going on in the world. I don't think we should we worried about what's going on in the world since the beginning of this year. There have been nearly four hundred cases of measles reported in fifteen states. A providence man is being sentenced to nine years in prison for DUI death, resulting after a fatal crash last year. The state attorney general's office says Brian Torres pleaded no contest and superior court. Prosecutors say Torres was driving on Atwells avenue in providence on October eighth when he went through a red light and hit another vehicle killing the other dry. Reiver's city resident Frank Perry junior. And seriously, injuring a passenger the new providence Vincenzo station is open yesterday was the first day for the new location for car and truck owners to get their vehicle identification number verified in the parking garage at three forty nine west fountain street, that's across from the providence. Police department headquarters stationed had to be moved because of the poor condition of its previous office in the building on Ernest street. Arizona Republican US Senator Martha mcsally says border agents are being overwhelmed by drastic increases in asylum seekers in her state. She spoke yesterday at a round table discussion at the ice office in Phoenix. They were saying sometimes.
"frank perry" Discussed on WCBM 680 AM
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"frank perry" Discussed on Gilbert Gottfried's Amazing Colossal Podcast
"Maybe were nominated. That's even worse. Maybe I got that wrong. Tell us about to have not won the The. battle. So many things we wanna ask you about. We want ask you about Eddie cantor too. But we we don't go in any order here. Joel is you see it's all very schizophrenic. Did you when you were doing buffalo Bill and the Indians did you like working with Altman? I loved it. Yeah. Yeah. We never knew we were doing. It was all a lot of improvisation because he gives actors a lot of rope. Yep. And that's how it gets written. Really, you know, this kind of cut a guide, and then everybody improvises, and he takes the best of it. Yeah. Cuts. They said during mesh both Elliott Gould, Dan, Donald subtle in at one point wanted to get him fired. Because I guess they weren't used to working that way. Okay. Let's call them. Did you spend any time? This is completely off the off the off track. But did you spend any time with Pat McCormick while making that movie just looking up to him? Yes. Yes. Because he played I'm trying. Remember was Grover Cleveland? Yes. And he was seven feet tall. Yeah. Yeah. He's he's sort of character that comes up a lot on this show. Yeah. And you liked working with Paul a love. Yeah. Just great. Yeah. My god. What a what a movie star and Olivier Sino? And I read my notes that you love Peter Laurie. But you also love delivery. Did you get to spend time with the Livia when you meant seven cents Aleutian? We didn't have any scenes together Amit, but my character was very Peter Laurie. Yeah. Yeah. Stein. Yes, Lewin style. Now that I think of it. Yeah. Yeah. Lies low. Peter Lawrence real name was l- like his name was last Lowenstein who Pete a lorry that true. Yeah. And that's where they got loeven Stein. Interesting. A could be at posits. Yeah. His name was last loan Steen. Oh my God. He came over on the same boat as your Boba. Yeah. Learn any from your. What I wanna do? They was also I think she taught me another expression that was I think it was our shin in lake men in red hair, which means they bury people who looked better than that. While that's a good one. I read that you like to learn something every day. I know you have. Lori came over on the same boat with what's the great director of troppled slang for its lying. They came over on the same boat. They escape Germany together. What do you think for its? No. You tell me. Man on a swing is a fascinating movie. I wanna tell our listeners people people listen to this show to our surprise, Joel. And they like when we recommend movies and Gilbert is recommended the swimmer Frank Perry's movie thousand times, so we're going to recommend another Frank Perry. Movie man on a swing. You're very good in it. And and Erie, and you have you have the difficult task of presenting the sky as as very strange and eccentric putting but he also has to be credible and ordinary an ordinary. I love the way your shot with the white shoes. Coming down the stairs to I want a love. I love your entrance. Good is. Yeah. Good stuff. Good film and people should see buffalo Bill and the Indians to because your fun in that and Paul Newman's fun in that. Yeah. He had a blast. Yeah. That's that's an underrated movie that people should see and Remo Williams too. Because it's because it's a scream..
"frank perry" Discussed on Science... sort of
"They'd rather. I can't imagine. What that feels like video. There's video that spread around the internet of a turtle going to sleep on the sponge. But you're not you need to breed. You can't go to sleep like, I don't understand animals doing. I mean reptiles from green reptiles. I'm like. Yeah. Whatever. Day off from breathing, but for marine mammals reptiles go they can get hit by a car and still be fine. They can you know, they're they have crazy physiology relative to mammals, but it's marine. Mammals Remm like, you know, the fact that molecular adaptations for deep diving are convergent between seals and whales should be one of the like highest forms of evidence for natural selection that I can think of for evolutionary biology textbooks. I mean, the adaptations for diving in that way are so they're achieved convergence in the last time a seal in Wales shared a common ancestor is probably the middle Jurassic. You know, so. I do wish I could store oxygen and my muscles for later use in. This is the big question for any marine mammal biologist physiologist is what is the cost like that is not coming without cost? And they do it multiple times a day each way. Are going down to three thousand feet in backup several times a day. And they they seems like many of these deep diving Wales do shut down for the dive down a really incredible video. I saw where it's a camera attached to its rear facing on a dolphin and the dolphin start to go down and gives a few really good fluke paddles, and then everything just stops just planes out, and you can tell that it's still diving at really sharp rate. Chest cavity has to compress because that's a negative space. No matter how much they've excelled with their last breath before diving to get rid of all air because empty spaces your enemy any empty spaces in their in their head. They profuse with blood. It's really nuts are used to ever do. I shouldn't be diving. I've tried a few times. And I'm like this is not for me. No. I swam among elephants seals around on annoy violent. But that was freaky stuff. I'm never wouldn't want to be in the water in the water with a multi. Thousand pound being on the land near elephants heels, they smell bad they're loud. They're mean, it's free when they do their catastrophic molt disgusting that for fossil whale. There's a fossil whale found a UCSE grad student back in the eighties. He founded on on wave island collected the skull give it to Frank Perry. And spry fatally actually who's a researcher. What turned out to be a whale? Fall skull kind of a cool story talked about in the book. So you talked about going down for a fossil one. Yeah. That was that. Yeah. So that that was it shows up in book, I guess so deep diving we're talking because I was wondering Claire so remember that I mentioned that look. So I remember sitting in the auditorium when Mike Castellini was giving a talk about physiological adaptations, deep diving any talked about imagine being elephants he'll holding your breath and then running up and down the auditorium for two hours. To go. Chase your squid meal and you're living six months at sea before you come back..