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Made For This with Jennie Allen
"francis chan" Discussed on Made For This with Jennie Allen
"Second Corinthians three or 7 says, now if the ministry of death carved in letters on stone came with such glory that the Israelites could not gaze at Moses face because of its glory, which was being brought to an end, will not the ministry of the spirit have even more glory, for if there was glory in the ministry of condemnation, the ministry of righteousness must far exceeded in glory. So it's talking about the story of Moses and, you know, he's on that mountain top, and then he's in the tenth of meeting and there's times when his face glows and he goes, that we I'm willing to bet that maybe all of you there, you look at the life of Moses and you go, wow, that was incredible. He was on that mountain top. He was the one guy that could go to go in the fire. He's the one guy that sat in a tent of meeting and the cloud came down his face is glowing. Like, that is incredible. And just reading through the books book of exodus, you can't, can I just get a fraction of that? Can I just have one encounter like that? But what does the word of God say? He's as the glory of Moses should be far exceeded through the ministry of the spirit today that we have to stop living in the shadow of the Old Testament. In fact, the Bible says the Old Testament is the shadow. Moses is the shadow and we have a glory that's available to us. And so these are the things I'm reading and I'm going God. I want this, give me faith for this. I'm going to come into your presence and trust the word of God and that's why what you guys are doing is so important is because I didn't get that from someone telling me these things. I'm just reading and going, what in the world are you serious? Why didn't anyone tell me what is possible and what God wants of us. So don't underestimate what God may want to do through you and in you as you get alone in his presence. This glory through the spirit should far exceed what Moses experience and so don't be deterred by going, well I've never seen that in someone and I've never experienced this. This is where you got to go. I got to go beyond experience and trust the word of God and say, no, this is what he says. And so I am going to seek him and he promises me that he rewards those who earnestly seek him. And so praise God that you're
The Eric Metaxas Show
"francis chan" Discussed on The Eric Metaxas Show
"809 7 8 three O 5 7 809 7 8 three O 5 7. American style doing in the room. Folks, welcome back. I'm talking to Francis Chan. That's right. Francis Chan. Here he is, my guest. Francis, you were just saying about God calling you to befriend people with whom you had some theological differences, which I think is beautiful. And it's probably why we're friends now. So talk about that. Yeah, you know, it wasn't even like I tried. I would be speaking at these events and like I remember the first time speaking at a passion event and suddenly the worship leader halfway through the event tells me he's Roman Catholic. And I was shocked. I'm like, what? And he looks at me, you know what his name is Matt Maher. He wrote the song, your grace is enough. And he was kind of weird that a Roman Catholic wrote that, don't you think? It's only weird. It's only weird if you think that they believe in works righteousness, which they don't, but you know. Well, that's where that's what I was told. And so as I talk to them and befriend him, we actually even went to Rome together and he walked through the different misconceptions of things. And it was so helpful, just walking through and realizing, man, this is a spirit filled godly man and I thank God for the grace in my life that I got to meet someone like that. Befriend someone like that. And now dozens others that I've gone to know that I would go, wow, they're commitment to Christ. Some of them, at least the ones I've met, that goes far from what I was told about them. You know? Well, it's interesting. I remember when I first got saved in 88 and was moving in the kind of charismatic world. And then when I realized that there are people that I would say, oh, there's a born again believer in evangelical believer, but they don't believe in any of that stuff. They don't believe in tongues or in any kind of miraculous stuff for healing, whatever. I was kind of astonished. I thought, well, that's part of the package. Why wouldn't you believe that? And so again, to get back to our friend, John McCarthy, that he would take such a strong stand against that. It just strikes me as odd. I mean, experientially through the centuries, missionaries have experienced angelic stuff and miracles and whatever. And but some people seem to be very, I don't know, they seem to major in theology. So I don't think the algae is unimportant, but they get very, very focused on little things like that. Yeah, and I remember asking in class one time. Like, what if there's a little old lady who goes in her closet and speaks in times like before I have to confront her and the answer was yes, because, you know, she could be filled with a demonic experiencing is not of the Holy Spirit. You know, is probably from the devil. And so, you know, I don't take that stand now, but I did. I really believe that. But I think the person who tells you to go into that woman's closet, that person might have the spirit of the devil, and I feel obliged to confront them. Yeah, but it wasn't, you know, it wasn't spoken in a spirit of cruelty. Right. It was really a belief. This is right, and we can't back down. We've got a glorified God, and everything we do, every truth matters and we were confronted anything that's evil..
The Eric Metaxas Show
"francis chan" Discussed on The Eric Metaxas Show
"Back. I'm talking to Francis Chan. That's right. Francis Chan. Here he is, my guest. Francis, you were just saying about God calling you to befriend people with whom you had some theological differences, which I think is beautiful. And it's probably why we're friends now. So talk about that. Yeah, you know, it wasn't even like I tried. I would be speaking at these events and like I remember the first time speaking at a passion event and suddenly the worship leader halfway through the event tells me he's Roman Catholic. And I was shocked. I'm like, what? And he looks at me, you know what his name is Matt Maher. He wrote the song, your grace is enough. And he was kind of weird that a Roman Catholic wrote that, don't you think? It's only weird. It's only weird if you think that they believe in works righteousness, which they don't, but you know. Well, that's where that's what I was told. And so as I talk to them and befriend him, we actually even went to Rome together and he walked through the different misconceptions of things. And it was so helpful, just walking through and realizing, man, this is a spirit filled godly man and I thank God for the grace in my life that I got to meet someone like that. Befriend someone like that. And now dozens others that I've gone to know that I would go, wow, they're commitment to Christ. Some of them, at least the ones I've met, that goes far from what I was told about them.
The Eric Metaxas Show
Francis Chan Reflects on Befriending People With Different Values
"Back. I'm talking to Francis Chan. That's right. Francis Chan. Here he is, my guest. Francis, you were just saying about God calling you to befriend people with whom you had some theological differences, which I think is beautiful. And it's probably why we're friends now. So talk about that. Yeah, you know, it wasn't even like I tried. I would be speaking at these events and like I remember the first time speaking at a passion event and suddenly the worship leader halfway through the event tells me he's Roman Catholic. And I was shocked. I'm like, what? And he looks at me, you know what his name is Matt Maher. He wrote the song, your grace is enough. And he was kind of weird that a Roman Catholic wrote that, don't you think? It's only weird. It's only weird if you think that they believe in works righteousness, which they don't, but you know. Well, that's where that's what I was told. And so as I talk to them and befriend him, we actually even went to Rome together and he walked through the different misconceptions of things. And it was so helpful, just walking through and realizing, man, this is a spirit filled godly man and I thank God for the grace in my life that I got to meet someone like that. Befriend someone like that. And now dozens others that I've gone to know that I would go, wow, they're commitment to Christ. Some of them, at least the ones I've met, that goes far from what I was told about them.
The Eric Metaxas Show
"francis chan" Discussed on The Eric Metaxas Show
"Back, I'm talking to Francis Chan, he's written a new book called until unity. So Francis is a huge idea unity and what you said when you spoke the other day in San Diego, I was very moved by it because you're right that we're supposed to love our enemies and when somebody says, I have Jesus living inside me. I'm a Christian. That's like a next level of what you just think, wow. This person, we may disagree, but I have to honor them and I have to talk to them in a way that takes that very seriously. But at what point, you know, because you have people now saying any Stanley wrote a book recently that kind of says we shouldn't be political, right? So on the surface of it, I get that. But then I think to myself, it feels to me like I kind of false posturing because you think, wait a minute, if I'm talking about truth, if I talk about the unborn, if I talk about slavery, if I talk about Nazis or fascists or whatever, like I have an obligation to truth, to speak on that, but there's some people that it's almost like they just have a dislike of that tension. And so they say, let's just talk about the gospel. As though you could talk about the gospel, but avoid some of those issues. So that's where I can't take them seriously. I feel like they're missing something big. Yeah. Well, you know, I recently read this book called bahn hoffer. And powerful, powerful book. I suggest it. And when you think about his life, how do you ignore human life? Like, I mean, that is the gospel. And so I hear what they're saying, though, because again, like I said earlier, there's things that we can get caught up in, and we're talking about eternity. I mean, we're talking about a person possibly spending eternity in torment a part from God or spending eternity forever, not these few years that you and I have left on the earth. We're talking about forever and ever in the presence of God and perfection, you know, for thousands, tens of thousands, millions of years, and that's huge. There's nothing bigger than that. We're talking about believing in a God who we can't even look at or we would die and him sending his son to die on a cross and suffering across so that we can be forgiven and spend eternity with him in perfect fellowship. And so that needs to be so high above every issue.
The Eric Metaxas Show
'Until Unity' Author Francis Chan on the Gospel and Eternity
"Back, I'm talking to Francis Chan, he's written a new book called until unity. So Francis is a huge idea unity and what you said when you spoke the other day in San Diego, I was very moved by it because you're right that we're supposed to love our enemies and when somebody says, I have Jesus living inside me. I'm a Christian. That's like a next level of what you just think, wow. This person, we may disagree, but I have to honor them and I have to talk to them in a way that takes that very seriously. But at what point, you know, because you have people now saying any Stanley wrote a book recently that kind of says we shouldn't be political, right? So on the surface of it, I get that. But then I think to myself, it feels to me like I kind of false posturing because you think, wait a minute, if I'm talking about truth, if I talk about the unborn, if I talk about slavery, if I talk about Nazis or fascists or whatever, like I have an obligation to truth, to speak on that, but there's some people that it's almost like they just have a dislike of that tension. And so they say, let's just talk about the gospel. As though you could talk about the gospel, but avoid some of those issues. So that's where I can't take them seriously. I feel like they're missing something big. Yeah. Well, you know, I recently read this book called bahn hoffer. And powerful, powerful book. I suggest it. And when you think about his life, how do you ignore human life? Like, I mean, that is the gospel. And so I hear what they're saying, though, because again, like I said earlier, there's things that we can get caught up in, and we're talking about eternity. I mean, we're talking about a person possibly spending eternity in torment a part from God or spending eternity forever, not these few years that you and I have left on the earth. We're talking about forever and ever in the presence of God and perfection, you know, for thousands, tens of thousands, millions of years, and that's huge. There's nothing bigger than that. We're talking about believing in a God who we can't even look at or we would die and him sending his son to die on a cross and suffering across so that we can be forgiven and spend eternity with him in perfect fellowship. And so that needs to be so high above every issue.
The Eric Metaxas Show
"francis chan" Discussed on The Eric Metaxas Show
"That's a pretty good point. Have you thought about writing a book about this subject? If you do think about it, let me suggest the title until unity until unity by Francis Chan has a ring to it. We're going to be right back. I'm talking to Francis Chan. Turns out he is the author of a book called until unity, which of course he just stole from me just right now. We'll be right back. I'll give a little bit of my life for you. So give a little I'll give a little tell me Eric, why is relief factors so successful at lowering or eliminating pain? I'm often asked that question, the owners of relief factor tell me they believe our bodies were designed to heal. That's right, designed to heal. And I agree with them. So the doctors who formulated relief factor for them selected the four best ingredients, yes, 100% drug free ingredients, each helps your body deal with inflammation. Each of the four ingredients deals with inflammation from a different metabolic pathway, and that right there approaching from four different angles may be why so many people find such wonderful relief. So if you've got back pain, shoulder neck hip knee or foot pain from exercise or just getting older, you should order the three week quick start discounted to only 1995 to see if it will work for you. It works for me. It has for about 70% of the half a million people who've tried it and have ordered more, go to relief factor dot com or call 804 relief to find out about this offer, feel the difference. Folks, welcome back, I'm talking to Francis Chan, he's written a new book called until unity. So Francis is a huge idea unity and what you said when you spoke the other day in San Diego, I was very moved by it because you're right that we're supposed to love our enemies and when somebody says, I have Jesus living inside me. I'm a Christian. That's like a next level of what you just think, wow. This person, we may disagree, but I have to honor them and I have to talk to them in a way that takes that very seriously. But at what point, you know, because you have people now saying any Stanley wrote a book recently that kind of says we shouldn't be political, right? So on the surface of it, I get that. But then I think to myself, it feels to me like I kind of false posturing because you think, wait a minute, if I'm talking about truth, if I talk about the unborn, if I talk about slavery, if I talk about Nazis or fascists or whatever, like I have an obligation to truth, to speak on that, but there's some people that it's almost like they just have a dislike of that tension. And so they say, let's just talk about the gospel. As though you could talk about the gospel, but avoid some of those issues. So that's where I can't take them seriously. I feel like they're missing something big..
The Eric Metaxas Show
"francis chan" Discussed on The Eric Metaxas Show
"Listen, we're called to love everyone. We're called to love our enemies, but I'm not called to unity with people that are saying things that are dramatically or to my mind very clearly against what God teaches. So how do you, how do you figure out where that line is or where is that line for you? No, you're right, because there are people that will accuse you of hearing about truth or not caring about holiness, you know, God's commands. If you pursue unity and I'm going to know, actually, I'm pursuing unity because that is truth and that is commanded over and over in scripture. Now there are times when we are called to divide, there are times like Jesus says, I didn't come to bring peace. I came to bring a sword. And there is truth to those who would dare like belittle or try to alter the gospel itself, those salvific truths, or there are times when the Bible is so clearly stating something as sin, and we can't tolerate that. If the Bible labels something as sin, we have to get serious about those things. But outside of that, there also needs to be this deep, fear of God, like if the Holy Spirit is in you, it's got to be careful. Even though you knew you may say things that bother me and you do, but I love you and I look at you, you know, I've been telling you, I have to look at you like I look at the virgin Mary. Like, okay, if she has the creator in her womb, then I better be awfully careful how I speak to her. And that would be the same thing about you.
The Eric Metaxas Show
Finding Unity Where This Is Discord With Francis Chan
"Listen, we're called to love everyone. We're called to love our enemies, but I'm not called to unity with people that are saying things that are dramatically or to my mind very clearly against what God teaches. So how do you, how do you figure out where that line is or where is that line for you? No, you're right, because there are people that will accuse you of hearing about truth or not caring about holiness, you know, God's commands. If you pursue unity and I'm going to know, actually, I'm pursuing unity because that is truth and that is commanded over and over in scripture. Now there are times when we are called to divide, there are times like Jesus says, I didn't come to bring peace. I came to bring a sword. And there is truth to those who would dare like belittle or try to alter the gospel itself, those salvific truths, or there are times when the Bible is so clearly stating something as sin, and we can't tolerate that. If the Bible labels something as sin, we have to get serious about those things. But outside of that, there also needs to be this deep, fear of God, like if the Holy Spirit is in you, it's got to be careful. Even though you knew you may say things that bother me and you do, but I love you and I look at you, you know, I've been telling you, I have to look at you like I look at the virgin Mary. Like, okay, if she has the creator in her womb, then I better be awfully careful how I speak to her. And that would be the same thing about you.
The Eric Metaxas Show
"francis chan" Discussed on The Eric Metaxas Show
"New book. So what's the title of the new book? New book is until unity. It's taken out of ephesians four talking about how weird as a leaders supposed to help equip people until they come to this unity of the faith. So that's where I got that thought until unity, like we're supposed to be working towards this. Right. And you spoke very eloquently on the subject, as you always do, and very movingly, and I guess, is it, is it just the fact that things seem to be particularly divided now in the church that led you to write this? What was it that? Yeah. No, it really was studying the word of God. You know, I went to a very conservative seminary where we were really just kind of bashing everyone else except for us. Like we were the only ones that had right theology. And the last few years that have been studying the scriptures, I'm going, man, God is very serious about oneness. And I have said some things about his children, like I talked about his daughters, his sons, and I have to face him. You know, I've said some things that were inappropriate. I joked about and I just got so convicted and I started apologizing to people. I started getting things right. And then I thought, I've got to write on this. After a while, you realize, wow, what incredible timing as like you mentioned everyone is fighting now. Everyone is getting divided. And I believe it's breaking the heart of God. It's grieving the Holy Spirit of
The Eric Metaxas Show
How Francis Chan Came to Write New Book 'Until Unity'
"New book. So what's the title of the new book? New book is until unity. It's taken out of ephesians four talking about how weird as a leaders supposed to help equip people until they come to this unity of the faith. So that's where I got that thought until unity, like we're supposed to be working towards this. Right. And you spoke very eloquently on the subject, as you always do, and very movingly, and I guess, is it, is it just the fact that things seem to be particularly divided now in the church that led you to write this? What was it that? Yeah. No, it really was studying the word of God. You know, I went to a very conservative seminary where we were really just kind of bashing everyone else except for us. Like we were the only ones that had right theology. And the last few years that have been studying the scriptures, I'm going, man, God is very serious about oneness. And I have said some things about his children, like I talked about his daughters, his sons, and I have to face him. You know, I've said some things that were inappropriate. I joked about and I just got so convicted and I started apologizing to people. I started getting things right. And then I thought, I've got to write on this. After a while, you realize, wow, what incredible timing as like you mentioned everyone is fighting now. Everyone is getting divided. And I believe it's breaking the heart of God. It's grieving the Holy Spirit of
The Eric Metaxas Show
"francis chan" Discussed on The Eric Metaxas Show
"Welcome to the eric metaxas. Show with your host eric. Metaxas folks Welcome to our to. We're gonna continue my conversation with chris. read a. it's an astonishing conversation. I hope folks you will share this. We put it up on rumble I sent out my newsletter Go to eric. Metaxas dot com. Please share this with people. Because i don't know what you make of it but to me. It seems astonishing And if you don't find it astonishing it seems to me. You're being irrational. I cannot understand what you would make. These things Chris read if people need to contact you or a contact you. What's the best way to find you a morningstar ministries. Okay here in fort mill. South carolina came or simone social media as well. Okay well then so. Let's continue you you you you spoke to a friend Is there a reason. You're not sharing the friend's name. Does he not typically talk prophetically. He doesn't typically talk prophetically. And i didn't get his permission to share his name. But i'll share. I'll share with you after the right the broadcast on am i the friend. Because if it's me you're making this up okay seriously though you You're hearing some heavy stuff. This is heavy stuff and there are plenty of people listening who no. You're not making this up. And i know you well enough to know you. Don't make this up and i want to remind people they can go to my friend keith. Jenas blog spot wine patch dot org at wine patch dot. Org a few weeks ago. My friend keith. Giunta shared about our experience With mike bickel. When chris read and i were there with francis chan and andy bird and fishing and teeth.
The Eric Metaxas Show
"francis chan" Discussed on The Eric Metaxas Show
"And he's like dad. I mean he's just freaking out fifteen years old he goes. You don't jimmy his friend jimmy. Who has like this. He's been talking like that since he was a kid. he's seventeen. I wanna pay for an operation anything. Nothing doctors can do serious whilst that bad is horrible. I thought i will pay for. Tell me how much i don't want. That kid growing up blake that he's at camp first night. Everyone is getting healed. Jimmy is singing and suddenly bull. His voice turns into a man's voice. He freaks out runs on stage in starts preaching in a man's voice. You know hundred highschoolers renaming my son just like cline falls on his face in the fear of god and you know but as he's explained any hands of the jimmy and he's talking to me like this and i'm going what in the world just happened to you. He's crying parents are crying. I mean this it happens and you know i've even seen it happened several times since we've been together but i'm still like blown out of my mind. My kids are blown out of their mind. But that's where. I think we bothered when people talk about it like. Oh yeah. Blind guy opened his eyes and he saw everything. I know and you think wait a minute. That should be in the papers. You understand like that's a big deal and they're like i don't know i don't i don't get it. We talked about other stuff we talked about. I mean you were in san francisco for a long time and we talked about the gays gauge. How hard that is suddenly for the church to navigate because we have this biblical ethic and we know we wanna love people where they are so a lot of times. We don't talk about something because other people talk about it too much and navigating that and my answer is that there is no answer. You can get it wrong in either direction. I keep thinking of the the fifteen or sixteen year old boy who is struggling with something and nobody is giving him truth and hope they're just saying this is the path for you and if you don't go down this you're denying something fundamental or whatever and i i. My heart goes out to that kid. Basically who is growing up in a culture where you're even the church is not talking about helping him in a lot of people interested. They don't believe in that kind of heat that you could be healed or changed or anything like that so it's just hard. There's no right answer. And i think the key is like what you said. Your heart goes out to him. It's about this. Love like looking at a human being in loving them show deeply from within otherwise like i corinthians thirteen says. You're just like this noisy gong. You're just like this grading sound in his ears rather than going cash pie love you so much and and when i read this book we're going gonna stand before god and and he loves you. This is who he is but we are gonna stand before him and so out of love you want to be honest with some of these things in and at least encourage them he just just look at this book but let me tell you something this god created you. He knows everything about you. He loves you mentor. Stop in me to how. Let's pick this up. We're going to another break folks. I'm talking to francis chan. You're not going anyplace shine a little bit of folks couple. Minutes left with francis chan francis. We're talking about that issue about love and how we can get it wrong in both directions. And i know i have. I know i have and.
The Eric Metaxas Show
"francis chan" Discussed on The Eric Metaxas Show
"You have a book out called until unity just came out a few months ago and you preached a message on unity. That really moved me. It was just an amazing mazing message. And i know it's online. I've shared a lot of people have watched it. But you said something there which i'll never forget. You said that you looked at mike. You looked at me and you said. I'm i'm standing with you and you said when you stand with someone you inherit their enemies that was a huge statement Just say a little more about that because that's just the beautiful you know. I think you know sometimes in the christian world we're like. Oh yeah unity. I love your ira. This is great. This is beautiful and they don't realize the cost in that a there's a cost for you having me on your show right now Suddenly am using veep viewers. Like crazy right. Now they're just don. You're not even listening anymore. Yeah those followers drop off. I mean it is anyone who has an issue with me going. I can't believe eric would have him on his show and in the same way. I don't know if you're aware but some people don't like you as well. I know i know just just going to believe that. So now suddenly is like francis. Went on the eric metaxas show. I mean this is just this satanic. Let's tear them apart. Let's get them afraid to become friends it you know. Here's jesus commanding. You and i who are spirit filled people who trust the jesus died on the cross were sons of god and yet we feel this pressure like what we better not get too close even though jesus commanded us to love each other as much as he loves. I uh that we're feeling this pressure from the quote unquote christian world to kind of hold each other arms laying. Then there's all this pressure to do the exact opposite of what jesus
The Eric Metaxas Show
Francis Chan Discusses Inheriting Enemies and His Book 'Until Unity'
"You have a book out called until unity just came out a few months ago and you preached a message on unity. That really moved me. It was just an amazing mazing message. And i know it's online. I've shared a lot of people have watched it. But you said something there which i'll never forget. You said that you looked at mike. You looked at me and you said. I'm i'm standing with you and you said when you stand with someone you inherit their enemies that was a huge statement Just say a little more about that because that's just the beautiful you know. I think you know sometimes in the christian world we're like. Oh yeah unity. I love your ira. This is great. This is beautiful and they don't realize the cost in that a there's a cost for you having me on your show right now Suddenly am using veep viewers. Like crazy right. Now they're just don. You're not even listening anymore. Yeah those followers drop off. I mean it is anyone who has an issue with me going. I can't believe eric would have him on his show and in the same way. I don't know if you're aware but some people don't like you as well. I know i know just just going to believe that. So now suddenly is like francis. Went on the eric metaxas show. I mean this is just this satanic. Let's tear them apart. Let's get them afraid to become friends it you know. Here's jesus commanding. You and i who are spirit filled people who trust the jesus died on the cross were sons of god and yet we feel this pressure like what we better not get too close even though jesus commanded us to love each other as much as he loves. I uh that we're feeling this pressure from the quote unquote christian world to kind of hold each other arms laying. Then there's all this pressure to do the exact opposite of what jesus
The Happy Hour with Jamie Ivey
"francis chan" Discussed on The Happy Hour with Jamie Ivey
"I stumbled into writing so i didn't know if i'd write a second book and after my second book i honestly said that might be my last buck like maybe the lawmaker back to adoption social work and then a couple years ago. I was praying a very simple prayer and it was just lord. I want all of you i want all of you and i don't mean that in blessing or gifts i i just want him. I'm just so hungry for you at in it becomes out of a very real knowledge of how badly i need him. Like when you say none of us are amazing parents. Like if anything motherhood is revealed my weaknesses. it has revealed my need for jesus at his revealed. My need for the holy spirit and so just a simple prayer. Just want all of you. Whatever that looks like lord. I just want more of you and very soon thereafter. The only way on one hundred describe it as i became curious about the holy spirit like i was suddenly just curious about him and and to be truthful. I hadn't paid a whole lot of attention to him. Even though i was raised as a preacher's kid in a presbyterian church also happened to be a charismatic church. I really kind of put the holy spirit in his spiritual gifts box. Like that's like a some people have. Okay okay got it. yeah like. He's for spiritual gifts in our lives. That's kind of his primary role and totally realize all of the other distinct functions that he has in our lives in. So as i pray that and then i just became curious. I began to see his name in scripture. In places where i just kind of perused over it before and really started to wrestle with the question. I know that i'm -sposed to live in the power of the holy spirit but. Do i actually know how to do that. Do i know how to live in the power of the holy spirit and it was really clear to me that i didn't like. What does it mean to grieve him. What does it mean to quench him. And so one of the first things i did is i call my mom and my dad and i said what are your favorite books about the holy spirit and my mom gave me a couple of recommendations. They were all amazing. Kathryn marshall and francis chan and billy. Graham and i devour them and she said but i'm just curious what's making you want to study the holy spirit my laugh and i said i think it's the holy spirit and really i realized this was was was going to re introduce me. That's what he did. He re introduced me to the holy spirit is what he does and why it matters so much and i just became insatiably curious. And i remember my dad saying gene. Just start in john. Chapter fourteen rate fourteen through sixteen rate. It slowly look for what jesus said about the person of the holy spirit start there. And i was so i remember where i'm sitting in my office when i read john chapter. Sixteen and you get to the part. Where jesus is preparing his disciples for his ascension and he says to them. It is better for you. That i returned to the father so that the holy spirit will come and that just stopped me right there like how did i have not realized that all these years following jesus that jesus himself said it is better for you that i leave so bad the holy spirit will come and other translations at reads it is for your benefit it is to your advantage it so i wanted to answer the question. Why is it better for me. Why is it to my advantage. Because i responded a lot like the disciples did in that story right scripture says. They were filled with sorrow. And i think a lot of us feel that way like we say jesus we don't want quote unquote just your spirit. We want you. We want you jesus. And as he went on to explain to them but the holy spirit is me. It's the spirit of god. It's a spirit of christ and and you're no longer going to be dependant on my physical presence because now if i returned to the father i can take up residence inside of you. I will live in you and i will give you every thing you need to live out the gospel into spread the gospel. And so that's really where it started for meals at. Why is it better. Why is it to my benefit clearly missing. Something and i'll be really honest jimmy. It's one of those things where something starts to change you so profoundly so quickly that was like whoa. Hold up toward. I know what you're doing. Yeah you're gonna lead me to write a book about this. And i'm not gonna do that. I'm not gonna wanna do that. Because i'm not qualified. I'm not billy grammer. Francis chan or kathryn marshall and and it's too complicated. It's two layered. And i remember. I think it was billy graham's buck. If you read the introduction he talks about how he didn't wanna write a book about the holy spirit because he didn't feel qualified and i was like all right. Well billy graham bill qualified. None of us are qualified. So i might as well go ahead and do it because i do know the local. Teach me what. I need to know so it was just incredible. Two years honestly studying the holy spirit welcoming the holy spirit to get in my business and i knew that that was going to hurt a little bit because i knew there are pieces of my life that i hadn't fully surrendered to him that he was going to need to work on. And and so. I knew that was going to hurt a little bit and the most beautiful way right these are. This is good pain but he brought some conviction areas in my life that needed convicting while i wrote and it became the book. I couldn't not right. I couldn't not write it. Because i was talking to women that do light with who also love jesus and follow jesus and they felt the same way i did. I mean i know the holy. I mean i believe in the holy spirit i affirm the holy spirit. I believe in trinity. I recite the seven words in the power of the holy spirit. But i don't know that. I too much life with the holy spirit. I don't know all that he is meant to do in my life. And so as i discovered the things i i knew i had to write them down and share on that i at that you know it might be my husband and my mom that by this book because i really thought who wants to buy a book only about the holy spirit and what i couldn't have seen two and a half for three years ago is the revival that was coming the curiosity that would be growing amongst so many christians where we just. We realized that we need him. We cannot do this without him. We need him for power. We need him for unity. We need him for to spread the gospel. And so i'm just really grateful that he gave me the ability to trust that he would equip me in the writing of this book and it changed me profoundly and.
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"francis chan" Discussed on The Eric Metaxas Show
"Francis you lived in hong kong as a kid. You said yeah. I five years of my life and you were raised. I mean what you would you just share a few seconds about losing your mother in childbirth losing a stepmother losing your father like i cannot imagine what that would be like. When did jesus become like real to you. Did you have a born again moment or was it a process. How how did that work for you. It was a process. But i would say in high school Youth pastor went to a youth group that some friends took me to and he got me started reading the bible and into this relationship where i'm up at six. Am as a high school student every day. Trying to begin this relationship with jesus and it was fascinating like the way he would answer. Prayers like all the stories we heard in kansas city. So many of those things began to happen in my life as a teenager. And i just i just was on fire. I just thought i. I need to tell everyone about this. Jesus owes high school where it all started for me. And when did you. Did you ever experience the miraculous or were you hanging out with those people and at what point you get with a group of people that says this is not for today. Yeah that wasn't until. I believed in it because i'd seen And i would But i never saw miracles. Other than supernatural answers to prayer. When i would pray but i never saw the miracles. They wanna went off to bible college in seminary. They told me that doesn't happen anymore. That stuff seized after the bible was was canonized and so I didn't believe in it for for many years. Even though i did as a kid but once i went to seminary that that one way and but it wouldn't you hear stories from missionaries or something. I always feel like you bump into missionaries. They tell you some insane story and you know it's real. Did that challenge you or did you just kind of put that on a box missionary box and yeah. I don't know. I kind of put it in a box and i was pretty hard core like this doesn't happen today. But then you do begin these relationships with people you begin to trust and they look you in the iron go note. This happened to me in your email. It's kind of like what we were going through in kansas. Where like gosh. That's hard to believe but it. It's not because. I look in the bible and go that perfectly squares with the bible. I just don't see that often. Yeah so. I think that's where it began to be surprising to me when people i trusted said no. I've seen things just like you read about in the bible part of the challenges that people who don't believe in the stuff hanging out with people don't believe in it and the people who believe in it hanging out with people believe in it and i noticed and this is what why it was fun to process what happened in kansas city with you is because you're living in this stuff sometimes. They're very annoying because they don't give it sufficient wile like they'd just say and then the guy turns into a bird and flies away and you hung. Hey hey shut up. What did you say. What are you to say. Like the guy's arm literally grew back from the stump. Did you did you say. Then what's wrong with you like you say like like like i'm chewing gum. You just talked about an insane miracle but they kind of act like well. Yeah they don't seem to be able to give it context so unless you're part of that world you just think those people are just kind of half nuts. they're not perceiving the same reality. I gotta tell you this story because after a kansas city mike. My two teenage kids went to summer. Camp with andy. At why ma'am and my son face times meat is. I'm driving to la. And he's like dad. I mean he's just freaking out fifteen years old he goes you jimmy. You know his friend jimmy who has his voice. He's been talking like that. Since he was a kid he seventeen. I wanna pay for an operation anything. Nothing doctors can do serious whilst that bad. It's horrible. I thought i will pay for. Just tell me how much. I don't want that kid growing up like that. He's at camp. i night every one is getting healed. Jimmy is singing and suddenly bo. His voice turns into a man's voice he freaks out runs on stage in starts preaching in a man's voice. You know hundreds of high-schoolers renaming my son. Just like cline falls on his face in the fear of god and you know but as he's explained any hands of own that jimmy and he's talking to me like this and i'm gone. What in the world just happened to you. he's crying his parents are crying. I mean this it happens and you know i've even seen it happened several times since we've been together but i'm still like blown out of my mind. My kids are blown out of their mind. But that's where. I think we get bothered when people talk about like. Oh yeah and then this plan blank. I opened his eyes and he saw everything i know. And you think wait a minute. That should be in the papers. Do you understand like that's a big deal. And like i don't know i don't i don't get it. We talked about other stuff we talked about. I mean you're in san francisco for a long time and we talked about kind of the gauge. You know how hard that is suddenly for the church to navigate because we have this biblical ethic and and we know we wanna love people where they are so a lot of times. We don't talk about something because other people talk about it too much and navigating that my answer is that there is no answer you can get it wrong in either direction. I keep thinking of the the fifteen or sixteen year old boy who is struggling with something and nobody is giving him truth and hope they're just saying this is the path for you and if you don't go down this you're denying something fundamental or whatever and my heart goes out to that kid basically who has grown up in a culture where even the church is not talking about helping him in a lot of people interested. They don't believe in that kind of heat that could be healed or changed or anything like that. So it's just hard. There's no right answer. Yeah and i think the key is like what you said. Your heart goes out to him. It's about this. Love is like looking at a human being in loving them show deeply from within otherwise like i corinthians thirteen says. You're just like this noisy gong. You're just like this rating sound in his ears rather than gone cash. I love you so much. And and when i read this book and we're gonna stand before god and and he loves you. This is who he is but we are gonna stand before him and so out of love you want to be honest with some of these things in at least encourage them he just just look at this slope. But let me tell you something this god created you. He knows everything about you. He loves you man their stuff in me too and i you know how let's pick this up. We're going another break folks. I'm talking to for instance you're not going. Anyplace.
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"francis chan" Discussed on The Eric Metaxas Show
"Want him crucified with christ. So it's no longer francis who lives but christ lives in me so we're in agreement here. Isn't that crazy right. It's crazy loose. The enemy saying i see your sin and you're like yeah i see it too and because i see it i gave it to jesus and he sees it and he forgave it and he's loving me you know. We cancel cultures the opposite of that. It just kind of wants to tag. You not realizing what i wanna tag myself. I wanna i wanna find those sins. I want to repent of them. Like why would you think i don't. That's what it means to be a christian. Isn't it anyway. I was just really moved by what you said that night. And i i'll i'll just have to post that a again. I whenever i have folks on here. I had chris redon. Actually we won't air it 'til monday but i like to know people stories and i didn't really get to hear your story. Can you share with us. What kind of a world did you grow. Up in a wendy. Do come to faith I know you're lost apparent early on year. Well i was born in san francisco but my mother actually died when she gave birth to me and so my dad's sent me to hong kong to grow up with my grandparents. Then he remarried. I came back to the states When i was like five and then my stepmother died in a car accident. When i was about eight. My dad got married again that he died of cancer when i was twelve. And so you know my time middle school. I've lost three parents already. And just got me thinking about i. I'm not guaranteed tomorrow. I saw my dad right there. Now he's gonna saw my step mom she's right there. She's gone on a revenue. My mom so it it makes you live with this brevity of life and searching for answers and when i began studying the scriptures. Gosh the way. God would answer my prayers when i began to believe in jesus and started this relationship. Just set me on this journey. And now i'm in my fifties. You know seven kids Two grandkids just wife is wondering and no gray hair. That's unbelievable we're gonna be right back. I'm talking to francis chan my friend my brother. The book is until unity will be right back..
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"francis chan" Discussed on The Eric Metaxas Show
"Is fascinating. Have you documented this. Do you have proof of this. Can you show me doctors records regarding us right. And then you've got this other guy. Chris who's like reading our mail telling us things about our own lives our friends at were going. How did you know that you couldn't have known that you can't even research that online and so we're just sitting there amazed at the stories that have this like history over the last fifty years of things coming true. Just like these guys said. And i'm skeptical your skeptical. You're wrong if you're not cynical right. I mean that's the whole thing is that i wanna be look. You're a fool if you're not a little skeptical and there are people in the body of christ foolish. They'll believe anything and then they. They can practically lose their faith when it's proved to be untrue. Because they're not really they're not being wise. You know there are people that will share things. And i think we have an obligation. Say we wait a minute. When did this happen. How did this happen because some people say that was a miracle and i would say like. I don't know that that's a miracle that might be a nice blessing coincidence but you know a miracle. That's when god shows up clearly and he does so. Don't confuse that with you. Know i got a parking spot or whatever anyway but you. When did you. I mean first of all you have a book out called until unity just came out a few months ago and you preached a message on unity. That really moved me. It was just an amazing amazing message. And i know it's online. I've shared a lot of people have watched it. But you said something there which i'll never forget. You said that you looked at mike. You looked at me and you said. I'm i'm standing with you and you said when you stand with someone you inherit their enemies that was a huge statement Just say a little bit more about that because that's the beautiful you know. I think you know sometimes in the christian world where like. Oh yeah unity. I love gary. This is great. This is beautiful and they don't realize the cost in that there's a cost for you having me on your show right now. Suddenly amusing using viewers. Like crazy right. Now they're just don. You're not even listening anymore. Yeah those followers drop off. I mean it is anyone who has an issue with me. I can't believe eric would have him on his show and in the same way. I don't know if you're aware but some people don't like you as well. I know. I know it's just go online to believe that. So now. Suddenly francis went on the eric. Metaxas show. I mean this is just this satanic. Let's tear them apart. Let's get them a raid to become friends it you know. Here's jesus commanding. You and i who are spirit filled people who shrestha the jesus died on the cross roads were sons of god and yet we feel this pressure like what we better not get too close even though jesus commanded us to love each other as much as he loves us. We're feeling this pressure from the quote unquote christian world to kind of hold each other at arm's length than there's all this pressure to do the exact opposite of what he's commanded. Well let's put it this way. The reason i think it's silly when people say well. I don't like you think to myself look. I don't like me either. You jug handle like i. There's a lot of stuff about me that i don't like so. What are you accusing me. Are you accusing me of loving everything about myself. And being totally sure. I'm right about everything. I'm not but if you love me. You can lovingly challenged me and maybe helped me to see something that i missed because maybe i did miss it but if you shy away from people you'll never be able to love them toward the truth and that to me is the problem. I've got many friends that are you know they think i've lost my mind Politically or something. But i won't turn my back on them. I don't care if you strongly disagree with me. Let me be your friend. let me love you. We don't even need to talk about that stuff but a lot of those folks won't talk to me. Something happened in their world where they can't break bread with somebody who thinks the way i do and i thought so. Why do i wanna hang out with you even though we disagree. But you don't hang out with me. And i think it's you're buying into you know we call a cancel culture but it's graceless is to say that i'm gonna find something about you you're out and i think you know why why. Gosh i'm so glad you said that. Even that first part. I actually write about that in my book if you read any of my books. But they're so short. And so fluffy that i i'll knock it out on the on the subway ride home. Hey i finished bond hoffer since we were together finished two weeks ago okay. It's such a harrowing read. I can see that you've lost your hair over this. It'll it'll good back. This happens a lot of people francis but are you serious. You read that book. Because that's it's such a i mean. Look it's got nothing to do with me. it's a. It's a harrowing beautiful story of a man of god. So i'm glad that you read that. Thank you seriously. Thank you bridge tradition. No i read the whole thing. I read the whole six hundred pages. It's it's a record for me. So you ought to be flattered and bowed to you as a writer you are if did give time. Thank you but what i was saying. Was i talk about how the exact same thing you said. I don't like francis chan either. I train i'm want him crucified with christ. So it's no longer francis who lives but christ lives in me so we're in agreement here..
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"francis chan" Discussed on The Eric Metaxas Show
"Know francis. China's i didn't really. I just knew he was kind of a big deal. He wrote this big. You'll book called crazy love. But i don't keep up with everything so i met him As i think. I mentioned a few times when i was in kansas city at mike bickel's big International house of prayer kansas city fellowship. And i just Grew to know him and love him. And i thought it'd be fun to have him on the program so you could meet him to francis chan. Come on in welcome so good to see you man miss you. It's good to see you. And i miss you too. I miss your voice. You've got a funny voice. You crack me up a friend of mine. I i realize that you kind of when you do your full comic mode when you're preaching you get in that you get all tortured and stuff and you you sound like you're cross between gilbert godfried and you'll brenner glad you don't know who they are because you'd be insulted and blessed at the same time look you and i got to know each other and we kid around a lot. So you speak my love language But the joy of being in kansas city for me was processing it with you because both of us are astonished by some of this prophetic stuff and his holy spirit stuff. And we're kinda looking at each other because we don't we believe it but we're just blown away. Can you talk about that a little bit. Because that's part of what gets to this unity message of people coming from different streams quote unquote to try to see things through each others eyes. Talk about that a little bit. And i was so glad you were there because you would ask the questions like wait. Wait tell me is vision where you actually there you know. You're asking all the things that i was thinking because it's different to these guys are talking about miracles like we talk about brushing our teeth like it's just then this happened in this happened. You're like wait. A sack in this is fascinating. Have you documented this. Do you have proof of this. Can you show me doctors records regarding us right. And then you've got this other guy. Chris who's like reading our mail telling us things about our own lives our friends at were going. How did you know that you couldn't have known that you can't even research that online and so we're just sitting there amazed at the stories that have this like history over the last fifty years of things coming true. Just like these guys said. And i'm skeptical
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"francis chan" Discussed on The Eric Metaxas Show
"Hateful into friday friday friday. It's friday on the eric metaxas show. And why wouldn't it be friday everywhere. Yeah we'll know what i'm saying. We're planet i know. Okay i have a question albain. Why since it's friday sir are we. Am i going to be talking. To francis chan shortly. Yes francis chan. Okay for jan is a big deal if you haven't heard him You're in big trouble. That's number one. Francis chan is my guest He and i become friendly lately. And i think that's gonna end in this interview. You wanna stay tuned. y'all i'm gonna grill him hard and And you should. And i wanna remind people that i'm going to be in seattle today in fact i'm on a plane now. You know how. I know that I just do. I can't tell you but this while you're listening to this. I believe on a plane. I don't feel like i'm on a plane. But i believe i am here. Wind rushing past. You better close that window and and by the way Since i'm going to seattle reminds me to remind the audience If you go to my website if you wanna find out where. I'm speaking. I'm speaking everywhere this fall. It's going to be crazy. I don't know if i'm gonna ever get home again but my book is coming out. It's called is atheism dead. I'm asking you to preorder a copy from anywhere you like. It makes no difference but please preorder your copies. People are going to get crazy about this book. I promise you can't wait till it comes out. Because i want to talk about it. There's stuff near that's going really shock people. I mean i promise you you will have a hard time believing some of the stuff that's in there but it's documented And it's god's i would say in time You know revelation of evidence proving him making it much more difficult to believe he doesn't exist. In fact i argue that believing. There is no god has become intellectually untenable. I mean genuinely i mean. That's my subjective call. I mean it's not tenable you can say i'm gonna agnostic. You can doubt the details. But whether there's a god i think has become a question that beyond questioning it's it's just you know it's like talking about whether the is flat. Do we really know if it's rounded. You know there's always gonna be somebody clinging To the idea that it's not a sphere but An obe oblates fear. We're going to get better. I know it's late so let me just say this. That the book You can. i'm going to be speaking about it..
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Francis Chan and Eric Metaxas Reflect on the Impressions They Make With Others
"I'm talking to francis chan francis you just you from the moment i met you. You crack me up. You make me smile like there's something going on. And i just enjoy you when you spoke that sermon. Which again your book is called until unity but you preach unity and stuff and you did stuff. I mean i was dying because you know you you you said okay mic bickel and you start talking about mike and how you know because he moves in this crazy supernatural stuff that for you to ally yourself with him even just as a friend. People will want to cancel you that you inherited his enemies. And then you said something about chris read and as soon as you spoke about christian is like oh no this. He's gonna go down the line he's coming to me and sure enough you get to me and you say some uncomfortable stuff about me. Which of course cracks me up at the same time. I'm cringing but in all seriousness. I want to ask you. This is just in in in terms of what we were just talking about this total transparency. I trust you right when you say that i say things that bothered you or this or that or whatever like i always really want to know. What am i missing something. Because i maybe i don't need to hear it because i already know you know like i know what i'm saying. Something this or that or maybe. I'm being political and people like oh. I don't think we should say this or or or say that but you spoke some really funny stuff. It was like even as it's hitting me. I'm laughing because the way you said it and But i wanna be honest about that. I'm not i'm not worried about their. I'm ready to let go of something if it's not. Jesus yeah i mean i think what you do is similar to what i do are very in the moment like right now. I'm focused and i'm thinking what you're saying right now and that's great. It's fun it's spontaneous. It's who we are. We don't want to lose that But i think sometimes you'll make a statement and if a person knows you right okay. Then it's like. Oh yeah that's that's era in contracts that makes sense. You're right they don't roll show you write. It can sound like that again right you know. He doesn't love this group of at all. But i get it now. I can't say that so now. This challenges me right. Because i literally don't know which way that breaks because i think myself wait a minute. I used to worry too much about what i said. I was so worried that i didn't say anything. And then i think as you get older you lose some of that. But it's kind of interesting because i think to myself is my problem that not enough people know me And so that people can of reading me out of context. Because i know i challenged people because i kinda come at so many different things right sometimes like mr comedian joke joke other times mr bond hoffer other times. And if you don't know who. I really am and you reading me. I mean this happened a lot with trump. he would say something. And i'm from queens new york and i come from a world that's not filled with christians and i'd be like i know exactly what he's saying but there would be these people people leave. He just said this. Are you kidding us like my uncle. You d if you know him. He's you know. But they would kind of parse sentences and boom and and i thought we're kind of living in challenging times in a sentence because you do have to have great for people somebody says something and you have to say. Did they really say what could make them sound bad just by quoting them. But is that what you
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'Until Unity' Author Francis Chan Talks About Miracles
"Know francis. China's i didn't really. I just knew he was kind of a big deal. He wrote this big. You'll book called crazy love. But i don't keep up with everything so i met him As i think. I mentioned a few times when i was in kansas city at mike bickel's big International house of prayer kansas city fellowship. And i just Grew to know him and love him. And i thought it'd be fun to have him on the program so you could meet him to francis chan. Come on in welcome so good to see you man miss you. It's good to see you. And i miss you too. I miss your voice. You've got a funny voice. You crack me up a friend of mine. I i realize that you kind of when you do your full comic mode when you're preaching you get in that you get all tortured and stuff and you you sound like you're cross between gilbert godfried and you'll brenner glad you don't know who they are because you'd be insulted and blessed at the same time look you and i got to know each other and we kid around a lot. So you speak my love language But the joy of being in kansas city for me was processing it with you because both of us are astonished by some of this prophetic stuff and his holy spirit stuff. And we're kinda looking at each other because we don't we believe it but we're just blown away. Can you talk about that a little bit. Because that's part of what gets to this unity message of people coming from different streams quote unquote to try to see things through each others eyes. Talk about that a little bit. And i was so glad you were there because you would ask the questions like wait. Wait tell me is vision where you actually there you know. You're asking all the things that i was thinking because it's different to these guys are talking about miracles like we talk about brushing our teeth like it's just then this happened in this happened. You're like wait. A sack in this is fascinating. Have you documented this. Do you have proof of this. Can you show me doctors records regarding us right. And then you've got this other guy. Chris who's like reading our mail telling us things about our own lives our friends at were going. How did you know that you couldn't have known that you can't even research that online and so we're just sitting there amazed at the stories that have this like history over the last fifty years of things coming true. Just like these guys said. And i'm skeptical
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True or False: There's a Brand of Underwear for Seniors Called 'Late Bloomers'
"This is just a wet. Your beak kind of run facts friday because in a week or two. we're going to do a much more fuller segment. Okay but a more fuller much more full or how about just fuller. Okay see now. I've been corrected again. Thank you professor metaxas. We got a medical lessons from now. Fuller it's going to be more fuller in fact it's going to be much more fuller all right here. We go now. This first one is a true or false fact. Now this is kind of a fun thing to start us off with okay now. You have to tell me whether you think this is true or false. Okay there's a brand of underwear for senior citizens called late bloomers okay. I know that that's falls. But i know that it's so clever that you made it up an underwear for senior citizens called late bloomers. That's very clever but it seems too clever for somebody actually have used it to create underwear for senior citizens because senior citizens would say. Why do i need special underwear. Exactly i kind of came up with idea on a bike ride however then i googled it and believe it or not. There is actually. It's mostly falls because it's not for senior citizens there's actually like anti-gun to where you can buy that's called late bloomers. And it's like they made it into a fashion called late. Bloomer anywhere lumers. Well that's what a wonderful fun fact. I've learned on this friday. Thank you my. Life is almost richer although not
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"francis chan" Discussed on The Eric Metaxas Show
"To the eric metaxas. Show with your host eric. Metaxas it folks. Welcome to the program. This is the eric metaxas show alvin. Yes sir we had dinner last night now. Okay first of all. Today's the day of the cans our one Can fish sharing what happened in kansas city. Recently who was pretty crazy really crazy. And i posted on my twitter The the the sermon preached by my new friend francis chan on saturday night. This was amazing stuff. And i want everybody listening to be able to to get this. This was just powerful stuff so again. Go to our website eric. Metaxas dot com up for newsletter. Wolf will email all these videos to you but last night Before we we've just got a bunch of stuff to actually okay. Before i mentioned what we did last night. Let me just mention tomorrow. Belen beatty is on the program. Oh yes oh my get ready. She says stuff. No one else will say. That's true. And i just love her. She is the best babylon betty tomorrow on the program. Friday pat boone. Ladies and gentlemen boy pat boone. I wanna talk about the rock and roll hall of fame and why they have not had him in the totally transformed rock and roll. That's bs and they. They have landed gonna tell his don rickles storyteller down richards really funny so you got in on from but And i'm going to be in bangor maine this weekend. We're going to be in tampa teepee usa a turning point..