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Daryl Evans Does It All

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Daryl Evans Does It All

"You're listening to an LA Kings podcast for more episodes of this and every other kings program visit, LA Kings. Com / podcast. You're listening to the rainy day podcast the official podcast of the Ontario reign with your hosts Cameron close and Zach dualie. Now, it's time to get back in the bar. Hello again. Everyone good to be here. Good to be here. It's a Friday. It's a Friday morning. I don't know when the parts going to drop maybe next week maybe today that's exact. And that's up to Jesse who we have invited this time. But before I introduce you Jessie, allow me to introduce Zach Zach. It's good to see again First Billing. Well on a second head of just middle billing. That's a good place to be. I mean you easily could have dodged me. I feel like I usually get some pretty crappy intros here. So I'm pretty excited for the one you just gave me. I think I've been pretty good. Lately. Jesse is a good to see you as well. Welcome to the segment. We'll see how you do. We'll see if we invite you back. Maybe you will be banished to the All the King's Men podcast, which is yours. But thanks for having me and I appreciate you respecting my agents wishes to have me as an and Jesse Cohen at the end of the building right? I got the right you're like at the end of the credits to something if and it says life and whoever adds and it actually their role and that's the only one that's here you bud. tough go All right. We're right back. Yeah. My microphone died. The one that Jesse sent me the guy who's supposed to get me good quality recording stuff. Yeah. Maybe did I leave it on overnight? Sure. Did the battery die sure. But Jesse, let's you've got this very industrious Mike in front of you. I want one of them at my house here. Nonetheless. Let's continue to suck does he tried to send me one of those mics too, but I type owed my address. So you sent it to some random house like down the road for me and I never actually got it. And this was like in April we tried to send you a second one too. But whatever wage Amazon informed us that it was lost in the mail. So yeah, this is the amazonbasics my let's just say that that's I think that the quality that I'm using. So now we're going off. We're all right. We're going to continue to be a lot Jesse. The reason that we asked you to join us this morning is I promised the fans a game and a game they will get I am a man of my word. The closest word is is gold and mine is no exception. So what we're going to do today is another round of before and after we've had you on for those before Zack knows them all too. Well and basically for those of you who haven't heard us do before and afters before it's my favorite Jeopardy category, every time it comes on to the way it works is you you have to combine two names or phrases or places or people whatever you have to combine them by one word. Okay, so it could be you know, if if the clue was just place you buy your boots and a you know, Mexican food. It could be LL bean burrito, right? So you could do something like that. Now these are all going to be Southern California or hockey related. I think there's only one that is in hockey related, but it is Southern California related. So that's how it's going to be and here's what we're going to do it. We're going to give you at home sometime to Buzz Inn and Pub. Now you're driving in your car. Maybe there's somebody else there. So you can compete with them will give you a little time. And I'm going to add Zach and Jesse to each raise their hands first one up. I'll let you know. I know it's an audio-only podcast need to take me at my word that I'm keeping a good eye on these guys and we'll see how you do. You only get one chance. So if you get it wrong, the other guy can steal, okay? You guys good we're ready to go. Let's go. Okay. All right. Let's start with this one. He only had two of them in his career now. May I have some candy, please? Yes, his hand is up guide. Jesse hat trick or treat. Nope. That's what I was going to say too. But he only had two of them his career. And what's the second maybe you got the second part, right? I mean think about it two of them in his career. Yes, Zach Gordie Howe hat trick or treat. Here you go. Thank you, Jesse. Let's do some thinking. Yeah. I can think of a Ferraro trick hat trick or treat cuz I play some NHL 20 and we can split that that was I feel like rage exact exact you stall so I'm going to give I'm going to give you a back. That's a steal. I mean I had that part to it just had to yeah, I'm going to give you the I'm going to give you the point. All right, here's the next one. Maybe this guy is gonna be a future king, or maybe it's just Kevin Costner's imagination. Zach has answered quickly. Go right ahead. Should I give the listeners another second job? It's going to be Quinton Byfield of Dreams. Excellent. Wow, that's like that's great. So you got that one quip. All right, here's another one to famous three word phrase has one offered at Toyota Arena and the other by a fictional Detective. You're going to run out of time here. All right. I'm just going to have to let you know what it is. It was go Rain Go Go Gadget. Wow. Think about the war. I'm thinking of weren't thinking about Inspector Gadget. I used to like that movie a lot as a kid and you know what? I found out the other day Matthew Broderick married to Sarah Sarah Jessica Parker nuts did not that interesting merits of the nineties never divorced and to me it's a cartoon not a movie. Well, yeah, I like I also used to watch the cartoon when I was a kid. I liked the Broderick interpret. I also I was on Sherlock Holmes there. I just kept trying to figure lines. I couldn't come up with him while he's an inspector. So I guess I can understand that. I just couldn't figure out what Sherlock Holmes would have been saying about getting out fair enough. Okay, okay to Kings Captain's agos favorite movie genre to watch with his girlfriend. Oh wow. Jesse I'm going to be disappointed you're like the Kings guy. Well, I'm reasonably number one Kings guy. The Kings Captain was to Captain to go but down here on their second here is my second favorite movie genre to watch with his girlfriend. I don't know. I'm calling to Zach you're in there. I'm going to take a guess here. Sure Matthias Nordstrom, Excellent job Zach. That was great job coming in the club. So I believe Zack is at 3 for you three rip right now. Can I can I can I petition the judges know? I mean that that was not that was the that was I was good Zach very good. Okay. Usually that gross So Cal hockey team can be seen here, but she doesn't care said the Beatles. Some tough ones today for you some stuff upstairs. I am sure you have the first Beatles songs are but she don't care but she don't care. If you don't know that you're not going to get it the answer. I do know that I'm still not getting it. Well, it's Jesse. It's just we have a goose egg by the end of the day, you know answer is the answer is Fox Sports Prime Ticket to Ride. Oh, wow. You don't know the exact she's got to take a drive. I didn't have didn't have the first half either. Oh really? Where you doing Honda Honda Center and as well, I'm sorry. Okay, let's see. We'll do this one. Okay. This isn't really a hockey one. This is when I wasn't thinking of them at the beginning and then I and then the floodgates opened and they all started coming expensive So Cal roads cautionary. Yep. Logan about safety behind the wheel Say that again. That's a lot of words expensive Southern California roads cautionary slogan about safety behind the wheel wage. They're tough today. I wanted to be sucks and you guys just means accent. All right. All right. I'm going to have to tell you Rodeo drive sober or get pulled over. I'm sorry guys you guys I was I was on the right track in the second one. I mean these are these are not before these are like seven to ten Word answers. I mean, that's what they are. I mean watch the show. These are these aren't aren't $200 Clues. These are $800,000 Clues. Okay, and one of them's going to have a double jeopardy, you're not going to get this. I'll give you another one you might get all right, maybe this guy would say Los Angeles Kings goal scored by this musical by Andrew Lloyd Webber. Oh Jesse right in there. Could he get took his first one? They've Joseph and the Amazing Technicolor Dreamcoat. Great job Jesse. You got on the board. Now, you're going to have to get both of these rights approach the time. I thought coming up with an author's Number would help me. I didn't think nobody would get go go gadget. All right. All right. Here we go. This is going to be a tough one. This will be tough. You guys aren't very cultured people. So I don't think you're going to do well with this. Okay, Andy Warhol had plenty of exhibits at this NYC location. Maybe more than Gretzky has of these. Oh, you got it. Jesse. Wait, wait a second or I go ahead the Metropolitan Museum of Art Ross trophy. So it's actually I'm going to allow it. I'm going to allow it. I don't know if he has exhibits at the Metropolitan Museum. If he does then I'm going to give it to you and I'm going to just walk me, right I had Museum of Modern Art photography. I'm going to allow it. Let's just assume he's got an exhibit. That was good enough. All right, it comes I was pretty good. It comes down to that comes down to this can Jesse James? Maybe we'll have to pause the recording and force me to make one more but we'll steep. Let's just see maybe that can dig. Okay the final clue. You can't wear number 87 if you play here, but that has nothing to do with Woodrow Wilson's Nobel Peace Prize. What time you'd given up Zacks just going to take the cake and no one's going to get the last one. Oh, my no idea what Woodrow Wilson's Nobel Peace Prize is well. Where can you wear 87. It's Burg. No, no, no, it was retired league-wide Quebec major Junior Hockey League of Nations. Wow. All right leave Nations created by Wilson and World War One. Peace Prize comes right after exact. Congratulations two of them too tough for you to handle but it was a close game. Jesse. Came came up his last second. I'm going to suck I'm going to take away. What is Zach's points though? What was that Zach? I scored three goals in the first. And just sat in the lead for the next 40 minutes did absolutely nothing but squeaked out a 3-2 and that's what we call The Prestige. Lockout, New Jersey Devils way to play this. All right, but I have to do this, I apologize to Captain's ago for the LA Kings. Was Robert Blake? No not if you can okay, first of all, I was going back and forth. So you're saying that Matthias Nordstrom was one Captain ago. Well, it's Kopitar month. Okay, then brown brown is one. Right. Okay, and then I would say I would say brown is one Captain ago, right? And then so the previous Captain to Brown would be two captains ago. Yes. That is Rob Blake. He came back and said one one year is Captain between Nordstrom and brown? Sorry, it's taking a point away know you don't judge the game. We're going to give it address. The judges say that just that you know, what Jesse you should have been able to get some of these as like number one Kings guy. You should have had that so I'm well, you know, I was trying to think of what movie genre started with Blake. I also want to know how many pumpkins acts got behind him. Yeah, you said I don't have culture. Look at these pumpkins behind. This is a fall-themed podcast set up. Look at this vac. I would bet my life savings. Is that much? Is that a threat at all that mrs. Dooley decorated cakes? Yes. Mrs. Dooley decorated the house. She is big big into fall. I've also got this right in front of me. This other pumpkin I wasn't able so there's a lot of pumpkins a lot of fall themes going on in the house right now. Nothing like a hundred degree weather to remind you here in California. That is Autumn. Right? Cuz those cords and everything else you have back there. Well, that was your game. I told you you'd get one. You got it. I still don't necessarily know if any of you like before and afters cuz I love them so we do them on here. Maybe you like and maybe you hate him. If you hate him you could have just skipped through there's a fast-forward button and you could have skipped right through and you could been able to listen to our great interview with Darryl Evans. If you didn't do that and you're great again, I'm sorry. Here's the 11th. Darryl Evans is a man that needs no introduction. I think you all know who he is. He is the radio color commentator for the LA Kings right now. You see him on Fox Sports West of Plenty as well Daryl. Thanks for joining us here today. It's great to be talking to you guys and you know being able to catch up so many people we've been so much separated from over the last six months and again, you know, when you reached out, you know, kind of put a smile on my face and I'm looking forward to our conversation. Well, we're excited to have you it's long overdue in the rainy day podcast, but here we are and we you know, no Now is as good a time as any so let's let's open up with our usual way of opening. We're going to give you a would you rather question and this one's interesting because it's going to depend on maybe your personal preference how you run your day-to-day, so I'm going to Give you the fun part of it first. So would you rather be like an A+ bowler now? We're talking like a 300 probably four out of five games, you know, you're a dominant dominant bullet. You cannot go professional though. So you're you can only be an amateur. You could enter tournaments you might be able to let a little money a little scratch here and there, you know, but I'm not going to go into the professional Bowling Association and and, you know make the tour so to speak and and really have that be your full-time career. You're just going to be a local Legend amazing bowler or would you rather never have to do laundry? You've got a bucket you finish with your clothes you throw them in there. They immediately disappear. They're washed folded in there right back in your door. Never have to worry about laundry for the rep. Well, I've never had problem doing the laundry. You know, I think at a young age when we move away from home to go away and play hockey, you know becomes part of your independent. So that's that's not an issue. So it'd probably be the other end of the spectrum are you know with the bowler, but the laundry laundry doesn't bother me, you know, and I've got kids as well and you know, whenever they're over and that you chip in and do that so that that's part of an every-day routine part of hygiene and that's something that I'm used to doing. So no issues with laundry. How about you Zack? What do you got? I'm going to go the other way. I'm going to take the free laundry for a couple of reasons one month. You can't go pro in Bowling. I think you're limiting. You know, like you said maybe a couple of bucks here and there but, you know bowling isn't what it used to be. You're not going to the alleys and seeing full alleys of people to hustle. I think it's a big moneymaker for you. I think it's just going to be like you never seen Kingpin. Yeah. Look what happened and we got lost his hand and not going they're losing my hand over bowling but dead. With the laundry now think about it you could you could one save a lot of money on clothes because you don't have to buy as many you can have your laundry done for free whenever you want. You don't have to go to the dry cleaners right? Like your suits are just done does that count and that's helped I know account. So, you know, like if you're playing an AHL back-to-back, you don't have to, you know worry about bringing two suits you can you can just bring down it's going to be clean for you if you're okay with everybody seeing you where the exact same thing to do. I'm behind the scenes for the most part. I'm okay with it. I'm okay. Well, I'll bring a different shirt and that'll change it off. But, you know exact first of all to say that your time is that valuable we all know you're lying there and second of all money isn't everything being a local Legend at bowling you mean that can be golfing. I think I would take it off. Yeah. I think we'd all have to take off if you talk about you talk about the laundry. Remember my first year when I broke in Pro, we had a couple of guys that when we were down in the minors there in New Haven, Connecticut Ali's farmer. And you know, we had some pretty long bus trips, you know 2 and 1/2 Weeks 1417 days in that and remember seeing one guy come in just with just a little like a very small little, you know overnight bag so to speak and I'm like what the hell are all your clothes. Hey goes well and he had he had kind of like a leisure suit jacket on and he had a turtleneck underneath and he said well, we're to Turtle a choice way 2 days. Then I turn it backwards for two days. I turned it inside out backwards for two days and inside out for works for two days. So you said I get eight days of the same tournament like this is going to be grown on you might yeah, we got snowed in at the end of that trip and out came that turtleneck again, the turtle like had to come out for like days 9:00 and 10:00 tour life. I think it did. I think it walked out of the bus on its own. Yeah, no one's sitting next to that guy. That's a that's a tough situation being. Yeah. Yeah laundry has to say but I yeah, Being a good bowler. You can't put a price on that Zach. Yep. Let's let's move. Let's move right along Daryl. I remember when I first asked you it's pretty interesting to hear about how you got into being a commentator for the LA Kings radio team and it's maybe a little bit more unorthodox than some other guy stories. Yeah it you know, it was something that never had been thought about in with regards to you know, a post-career type of thing. You know, I felt at the time that I was playing that you know, when I finished off my career, I might get involved in coaching. You know, I've taught skating my my entire life and you know, I always work with you programs and things like that. So I thought coaching might be an Avenue I might take and you know getting into you know, my post career after I finished playing I got involved in the automobile business and the the company that I was working for a Cadillac dealership in West LA at the time. You know, they were a prominent Cadillac dealership not only in California, but you know in the United States and I was very fortunate great group of people and one day I was at the airport, you know picking up my my brother was coming in from Toronto and long behold the that on that same flight was the next general manager of the LA Kings at that time, and it was Sam Smith. Who that was during the Gretzky era that he was coming in Sam happened to be my general manager and Junior Hockey and going back as far as youth hockey when I was nine and ten years old and we kind of cross bat those really good old days when you could go to LAX and pull up on a curb side and actually get out of your car and you know Embrace somebody wait for them to bring their their luggage out. And so we just got to talking and you know, he asked me what I was doing. I told my was managed a Cadillac dealership and you know, he said he was going to need a car for me to get his car my card and you know, he'd give me a call the next day. I'm going out like I'm going to hear from the next day. I'll be down by like 10:00 in the morning the next day Sam's on the phone is yeah, this is the give me the green light. He says, you know more work out some type of deal and and so the deal that we worked out was our dealership. We're going to supply a couple of cars for the Kings and in turn we were going to get some tickets. We're going to get a an added the program and a 30-second radio commercial and we had you know the pig. For working they come to the dealership. They taking the pictures. We you know, we sent them over and it was now part of the program with the Kings and the only thing that we had fulfilled yet was the was the 30-second radio commercial and somebody from the Kings had call up one day and I was the point of contact and they said Daryl, you know your dealership you're advertising company hasn't sent anybody over, you know to do anything about the thirty-second commercial. So I talked to the president of our companies at car place and I said utilizing you know, what's going on here. You know, we're losing out on air time it goes. Well, why don't you go do it. I've never done anything like that before he goes. I was you know them though you the know your voice whatever you want. So I made arrangements to to go and who can't remember who who ended up contacting but they're contacting who is my current place right now who is doing the play-by-play at that time? And you know, Nick said come before a game, you know about four or four-thirty meet him at the Forum and we'll cut the thirty-second commercial you give me a couple of tickets to the game and yep. I was just going to be you know, fun to kind of reconnect with the game of hockey cuz I've been so wrapped up in in the automobile business for the last, you know a number of years before that and I got there that day and the current analyst jobs from the analyst that was working with Nick at that time was Mike Allison and Mike had shown up in a building yet. And I just said Nick, you know, you know, you know, where's Mike and he was all he goes, you know, something tragic in the family happened. He's making some arrangements. He's got to go back home. He's going to you know, he's going to do the game tonight and he's flying back home tomorrow. And I don't know whether the Kings played the next night again or the night after as well who's going to do the game, you know, the next game that I would have thought of that I said, I'll do it with you and that's how I came about doing my first game never forget. They're playing against the st. Louis Blues and I took a media guide home with me and you know did a little bit of reading and math. You know, I was still, you know, listening to Nick all the time when I was in the car travelling, you know to and from work and and things like that and and it was easy, you know to jump in wage. Because you know having heard him for so long, you know and get an idea of his style and you know, he made it. He made it so easy, you know the pointers that not only gave me then but he continues to give me now, you know twenty years later and you know fortunate enough to work with, you know, you know the greats like, you know, like Bob Mueller, you know sitting on a plane with Bob Nick and you know, and then gym, you know Jim a teammate and you know doing the same thing you're doing, you know, the color job on T. I mean those guys have been you know, so helpful over all the years, you know watching them the way that they conduct, you know, their game preparation and you know, we all have our own style to a little you know still today where you know, you're still tweaking it a little bit each each time, but that's okay number one came about and you know, then, you know, the Kings approached me about doing it, you know full time the next year we could come to terms. I just finally established myself in the car business. I purchased a house. My son was born and I had Financial Obligations that that I had to you know, make sure that got taken care of and God. So that's when they hired can be Granado and Tammy she decided she was going to go back and play and she would need a little bit of time off during the year. So the Kings approached me and asked me if I would fill in those games and of course, you know, yeah, you know willingly for sure I do that we're supposed to be like a handful of games or so and I think it turned out to be if I'm not mistaken Seventeen games so that give me a really good sense of this is something I like to do. And by the time the end of the year came up the Kings offered me that position and Staples Center was on the you know, the process of being built. In fact, I became the idea director of sweets at Premier sheet sales over there as well. So I I was wearing a few hats but it was great to get back involved in the game of hockey and you know part of my life, you know from you know from way back years old when I started skating and playing and continues to be so here, you know over fifty years later. So when you when you send a Nick hey, I I'll do the I'll do it again tomorrow. What was it like I'm Kenalog. But you did you back him into a corner was that was that the car salesman and you're coming out and forcing. It was just I think the helpful meet and coming out like hey, you know, you know, I'll do it with you, you know, maybe not dead know not knowing what I was, you know, getting into so to speak but again listen to a number of games including Nick for so many years, you know along with Mike in that, you know, I was traveling home from from work with our business. So, you know, I knew it was, you know wasn't going to be a you know, a simple easy thing like that but working with, you know, a Hall of Famer and Nick definitely made it a lot easier and he made me feel uncomfortable from day one and you know, he continued like I say give me pointers, you know, even you know, now that I'm you know, twenty years in and you know over 1,500 games, you know, you still learn something every day and it's dead. Remember I remember the first game and and I look forward to the next game. It's just it's it's a great it's it's been a great thing for me and it's allowed me to stay connected to the game to stay close with the players for so many years. You ever bring it up that you turned him down at first. This is ever any disagree be like hey, you know what? I turned you down once I don't give me what I want here. You know, I can turn you down. What that that never that was never that was never Nick, you know, and I mean and the Kings understood that because at that time it was you know, they didn't have all the involvement like they do today. I mean they you know, the position is evolve so much and had it been even maybe one or two years earlier in incoming about you know, it was some you know, not a I would have jumped on and I was it was funny the conversation that I had. I felt that there was something there something was going to come about that. You know, we we built a relationship. We we made a connection. I remember meeting Mister Roski at that time. And then I spoke with Tim Lee Wiki and and you know, so things were moving in the right direction. So at that time it just felt that you know, be patient and and things off. You're way out and I believe that and and they have done that and again wouldn't have changed a thing, you know as I look back and things have worked out nicely moving forward you played in your schedule time. You played a bit for the New Haven Nighthawks and Nick actually called their games. Did you guys cross over at all? Well, Nick got called up my my first year down there. That was the year that Nick got called up and you know, it was great, you know, seeing him, you know, make it make his way up like that particular year a lot of guys made their way up front from our team in New Haven our coach Tom Perry who I had the previous year in Saginaw in the international league teammates, Bernie Nicholls. He got called up earlier that year as well. And so it was it was neat to see them guys kind of taking that step and as a young guy coming in, you know, the the American Hockey League at that time was a lot older players not like it is today. It wasn't, you know, a lot of draft choices, you know in nineteen eighty was a birth. During that they went to the you know to the eighteen-year-old draft. So, you know, I fell in the middle. I was drafted as a nineteen-year-old because that was the first year that the eighteen-year-old draft came about. So awful lot of older players a lot of veteran players. So to see the Kings at that time utilize their farm system not only four players but again for broadcasting and when you look at for coaching job was that was something really neat and and they continue to do that. I mean they you know, they really they really may take advantage and make use of their minor league affiliate both in positions on and off the off the age. I was almost like a retirement League wasn't it? I mean you went through it as a development guy, but a lot of the top-end players were almost like, you know, ten year NHL vets who would come back down, right? So how long was how different was playing in that League when you played in it versus you know, what's come to be now it was it was a different League. I mean when you went as a young player there, you know, you showed a lot of respect to the older players. I mean, you know the p.m. Roshes were down there. The blame step was Peter mahovlich has you know there there's a lot of top-end players, you know the jokes Loop and you know, you know big defenseman would Montreal Hartford Nash so there was a lot of veteran players that I think did a good job at you know, kind of you know bridging that, you know the gap for the young guys. It kind of becomes a guided you even when you're you guys that you played against, you know, if you played the game hard not as they they would respect you and help you help our own players. They were really good because of the experiences of data had you know, the schedule was definitely a different one from playing Junior Hockey or even College hockey that you know, now you were you know, now you were professional you were being paid, you know, you had to, you know, make sure that you took care of yourself both on and off the ice. Make sure you got the nutrition nothing like it is today. So there's a lot of independent stuff there and I think a lot of that came from the players that the older players wage. You were able to kind of get closer to that, you know, they realize that you know, maybe they were on the downside of things and you're on the outside and they were trying to give you you know, the best way to you know pointers that they could in order to give you the best chance to you know, hopefully make it to you know to the to the big stage where they'd already play Let's Stay on your playing career for a minute when when Gretzky played you always hear that he said he was too small and he was like six feet now you're listed on hockeydb at 58185 during your playing career. You played around that time. You played during the eighties. I mean, you must have been considered a very small player be playing pro. How did you make it to the NHL? How did you last in these leagues as a guy at that size at that time in this game? Maybe now it's a little more prevalent still. Yeah, you know, it's like now I mean I think in a game like today, I I think I would thrive in today's game because my greatest assets where my skating ability my shot had good instincts and actually dead. Play defense growing up my entire career. I never played forward to like turn Junior. So at a at a really good coach at a young age that kind of, you know, give me an opportunity to see and learn the game and I knew you know, my parents aren't big people. I knew I wasn't going to be a giant. So I had one thing I had control. Oh was the you know, my individual abilities that was to be able to skate, you know shooting those type of things first year hockey. I was a goalie cuz they couldn't even skate. So I became a a power skating consultant are not a result of a power skating assistant at a hockey school at a young age before my eleventh birthday. I was kind of like a junior instructor and then after I became an instructor and I did that and I'm still doing that today, you know, here we are 50 years later. So I felt that I was kind of told that skating was, you know, huge part of the game at that time and and so be it is and I excelled wage I always worked on my shot. Love to shoot the puck, you know worked out again off-ice. Those are the things that I could control and that allowed me to be able to you know, George able to play and compete, you know with guys that were bigger stronger, you know, and they had a size Advantage so I had to you know, utilize what I could those were, you know playing with some, you know, heart and passion, you know, try and play as much as smart as smart as I could and played within my means and you know allowed me to succeed at at every level as I moved up and like I say, I never played forward till till I turn Junior and amateur draft it as a defenseman by tum agra falls Flyers went to training camp the first day and we had a coach at airport. Templeton was named who has since passed kind of a rough and rugged type of Coach notorious for calling, you know, big tough teams, and he looked at me and he goes after the 1st day of training camp and we had a bunch of returning defensemen and for the guys four or five the guys actually went on to play any game. Gel and he said because you ever played forward I said, no he goes. Well, you better learn by tomorrow. He said I got no room for you, you know, you know back in the blue line. I'm sitting at home. I played forward by tomorrow. We can I say pag, you know, I I give him a lot of credit for giving me the opportunity, you know, he saw something in me and I remember hanging around there and ended up making the team's forward slash Christmas time. I think I had seven goals if I'm not mistaken at Christmas time and we had a conversation was our last game before the Christmas break and bird Templeton and said to me he goes, you know, generally just come on over here for a minute. Yeah. It's all hi coach and he said, you know, he was I remember when you know when you were here because I didn't think you'd ever, you know, ever make the transition to play forward. I said, well I said want an opportunity wage play and he goes, yeah, it was but I didn't think you would make it somebody calls you got now and I said to my slice I think I got seven out and he goes hey, that's pretty good, you know for you know, the limited role that you've had and this and that and off. And I don't know what possessed Me by Sask by the end of the year. I still lead your team in scoring, you know, he's kind of laughing at me and he goes that's one of the things I like about you since you're confident he says but you're not cocky young we went into into her last game. It was in Maple Leaf Gardens were planning as the Toronto Marlies the last game of the season Stan Adams who was the nephew of Frank mahovlich. He was my cinnamon and we both had 39 goals going into that game and late the game. We had enough number to tack and was able to get him the puck and he ends up scoring and you'll be screwed by one goal. So we get back into back-to-back calls after the game. The coach closing goes lose. You lied to me nice little idea because we mean, you know, cuz I've never said anything to him a conversation. We had a Christmas apologies, you know, I'd forgot about that. I thought yeah, I guess I did go die. Cuz you could put that part in in Eddie says I know what you were doing. He says, you know, you had an incredible year or so and that's we're kind of things really kind of took off and had there been an eighteen-year-old draft. I think I would have I think I would have got drafted higher, you know, because my performance I mean at 39 goals is a rookie in in the Ontario Hockey League, which was you know, a lot of twenty-year-olds at that time and even some Twenty-One year olds and over age. So that was a that was a great learning year for me playing for Bert Templeton. I learned alot how to conduct myself and I think that gave me the confidence and encouraged to you know, and I always played against bigger guys excited always played ahead of myself as playing Junior be at the age of fourteen fifteen. So, you know, we're we're playing against men at that time. So, you know, you you had to you know to toughen up and not that I was going to go out and fight anybody, but I had to make sure that I was willing to go, you know pay the price take a hit in order to make a play and at something I got accustomed to doing that and then allowed me to play, you know, go out and play in the NHL think the only Kings organization. Just loves 9th round draft picks like Luc robitaille yourself. We had Matt Moulson on the podcast with the rain Claire. He was ninth round pick so they just loved 9th rounders here with the Kings. What was your draft experienced a lot? Like it was a lot different back then right? Like were you at a draft and you just kind of get a phone call at home? How did that go for you know, we were at the draft it was at the old forum and Montreal it was an incredible experience, you know being in that age, you know in that iconic building, you know to be able to walk in there. I remember walking, you know, just in the hallways and seeing all the old pictures of the Great Canadian teams and and things like that and you know being with your peers and back end up building and you know, just listening, you know, whether it was your name or one of your friends names or just anybody's name being called out of that that's an experience that you know that allow always remember and it was it was neat to be there and you know get then getting back home and you know, the LA Kings reaching out and say Hey, you know, we drafted you, of course at the knife router, you know, not one of the guys that you parade down and you know do a ticker-tape parade to get them down to the stage and get a picture anyway. Dad at that time. So, you know the first Contact I had was a you know on the phone and you know, and you know, welcome to the organization and it was so different. I mean, you know the kids today they they had the luxury not only meeting these guys they don't just be him at the draft that had conversations you want to combine and things like that and you know, they have it so much easier remember going to training Catholic church. Sometimes you need to know anybody. I mean if you didn't have anybody drafted that you play Junior against or college against you might going into you know, whole whole new spectrum of players and you didn't know anybody which kind of you know, maybe makes you hold back a little bit but you know the guys come in today, they're very confident in the organization's I'll do a great job. You know who the trainers are you not afraid to report an injury, you know, the assistant coaches the coaches wage and you know, it just it would have dozens of brings the best out of the athletes. So I think that's that's one of the great steps that have been made as we transition from let's say my draft engaged, you know coming up here in 2020 wage. Years later you spend your first several years with the Kings as a player. Then you move on to the capitals and then and then the Met police organization for a bit when you left the Kings did, you know like, you know when I'm done with this is going to be where I live the rest of my life. You know, not really I think I was you know way too young at that time. You know, I was hoping for the same more of an opportunity with the Kings and you know, nobody ever wants to get traded. I got traded my last year of Junior but you know with the Kings, you know, I was hoping to you know, make my whole career with the Kings, you know, that didn't work out, you know, get traded to Washington and you know, and then I signed with Toronto as a you know free agent. They were all good experiences, but I think you always have a soft spot for the place that drafts here that shows you know, the confidence in you that you know that they're willing to take a chance just you when I was playing with the Kings. I met my my wife whom are my ex right now at that time. And so that kind of you know drew me to Los Angeles spent the last couple of years my career over in Europe and you know, we came back we came back to Los Angeles. Not sure what I was going to do was actually I was all set to go back and coach in Europe when I went actually retired when an opera Security came up and garbage inside already agreed to to go back and and Coach over in England where I spent the last year coaching and again it something I never regret that, you know turned out to be a good move that got me in the car business and eventually it led to you know to me be in, you know next program on the radio. So here we go exact please. Should one more question on your European playing it looked like you played in Italy played in England, you know, you hear so many horror stories from guys who took me to go over there today play in the cage or play in Russia. You don't hear so many from the guys who are in Italy or England, but what was your experience like playing over there? I saw your stats and Italy were pretty impressive. Yeah. It was it was it was an incredible place. We were in a little village, you know at that time. There was only two Imports on each team. The other end port was Steve du jour month was with Phillies organization. I think he put some time in with Jersey as well. But he was the other import. We went over we both had young children at that time and was just a little village way up in the Alps there in Northern Italy, you know easy schedule 32 games, you know, just bus travel know flying it was picturesque great great great place to place. Raise children all that. So I really enjoy that experience the owners of the team treated us exceptionally. Well, there's one Street in town about twenty-five hundred people at the time of the year. We got there was the first year of a grocery store. It was such a great, you know, great way of living England was a different experience, you know, it was funny when we got off the plane in England, you know with my wife at the time and money, you know guys come over to us and welcomed us and she goes what the hell language is he speaking like we couldn't understand cuz they had like all these different Geordie accents and all this kind of stuff. I said better chance of understanding the guys down in Italy that we did with these guys. So it took a couple of weeks few weeks to double start understanding that but we lived right along the North Sea there. That was a great experience. I had a castle that he used to walk my son to every day. It was like, you know thousand years old and we used to go just play around there every day and the people, you know, they were great as well completely different experience whole different way of hockey. That's for sure. It'll be replayed the outdoor rinks. That was a great experience, you know being up in the Alps and you know, just just see, you know, taking a game back so many years like when we played when we were kids being outside Italy wage, you know, we got to go up to Scotland play. We're down in Wales plane. So we got the, you know travel and see some incredible places there as well to to Great experiences and home of great memories and I think you know really help, you know, kind of mold me as a person and you know being able to get out there and kind of in kind of grow as an individual for what was going to happen, you know in my post career. Well, let's get back to the post-career for a second you do the games on radio you do the color commentary and then we see all the time on Fox Sports West. I imagine you love being able to be a part of both broadcast a tough thing to balance it all during the games. Not at all. I mean, it's I really cherish both positions, you know doing the games with Nick is is great, you know name. Getting the opportunity with Fox Sports to be able to you know, add some analysis on that as well. I enjoy it. You know, it's it's a Sprint between periods, you know to get down to where I've got to get down to her up to 12 to get up to and I love it. I just you know, that's I my energy type of guy so those types of things it's you know that I embraced that type of thing and you know, I'll do is I'll continue to keep doing that as long as you know, they provide that you know for me that opportunity for me. I love having both stages to be able to you know, put, you know, put my opinion and you know in my my voice on and off again very very grateful that I have have had and have the opportunity just to be able to do that everybody that sees you on Fox Sports West knows your Infamous for your fashion sense. When did that start? You know, they you you've got a I don't think I've ever seen you wear the same thing twice. I would go that far. But it I think it's something that I've always taken a lot of pride in and I think it goes all the way back to home. You know Junior Hockey before Junior Hockey. Remember the first a couple of teams that I played minor hockey for being like Peewee and Bantam, you know, when we finally like we went to Quebec for the correct term and we went to ban in Bantam. We went to a tournament in Switzerland and we had sort of speakers kind of 18 uniform which included a sports jacket turtleneck or you know a pair of pants at the time and then I remember when I finally got to Junior and I bought my first three piece suit my mom and dad bought me a three-piece suit and that was something that took a lot of pride in wearing and then my grandmother lived at the time can't remember what birthday was she presented me with a pocket watch that love putting in my vest and I just I just liked that style and I just felt that you know going to a game that being dredged up, you know, it's kind of a, you know, even at that young age was it was a professional kind of thing to do my dad were sports jacket and pants, you know to work or shoot, you know to work every day. He was in sales and I liked the dog And you know then as I started to buy, you know my own clothes and things like that. I always kind of like nice classy things and then I always like things are a little bit different and when I started to see some money that would come out and have a little bit of a shine or maybe a little extra pattern or design on it. It kind of caught my eye and it's like now I'm at the point now where you know, I I go to the I go to the club shops and I actually picked the Clash of my selfish when I go in there and it's great because you know for the most part Series, yeah. Yeah for the most part, you know, it's you know seems Trisha's things like that designers in there and here here I pop in and they think I'm shopping for some reason ask for me and you know, like kind of get a chuckle out of it. Then I show up the pictures of the suits after they're done and they get a laugh out of it. But yeah, I enjoy that and like I say, I like different things. I like things that you know that, you know have a little bit of a shine to him and something to kind of catch your eye. I think it tells speaks a little bit about You know kind of who you are. Like it's you know that you know, I like what what I wore whatever I'm doing. I want to be known for what I'm doing and I want to be seen what I'm doing and I think that kind of just adds to you know, I'm doing I have one more for you on the Darrell Evans quirks line. So you skate with no laces in your skates right now, when did that start? And how do you possibly do that? Well as a young player again going back to that first coach that I had cuz I couldn't skate, you know at all. I became goalie. I could not move like two feet without falling down and my very first choice that I had problems hockey. He said me sushi keep the top eyelid on. He's he's getting a little bit more flexibility in your ankle. Okay, you know, what do I know? And so I left two eyelids undone home and we're at we had the point where you had to your own skates up, so I would probably as weak as could be so I could type them very much. So my skates were always loose and so I had to Islands. Yep. Eventually as time went on three eyelids sometimes born and five Islands, but what I would do is I would take them Loosely. So I would make sure that my ankle wasn't exposed to, you know, have a blade come in there kind of keep it, you know, everything wrapped but I had more flexibility than they were if they were tied tight and my skates like the the the laces were probably two inches wide at the tow. So they really are just basically lace-edged not tied up at the end of my career when I went over to Europe, you know, it might as well get rid of the tape here, you know, get even a little bit more flexibility did that and then it came back this, you know, maybe cut the laces so then my lace used to be about maybe eighteen twenty four inches long and I put it through two or three eyelids in the middle of the skate. Just so my skate didn't fall off a skater. What the hell, you know, I got rid of that. So it's been quite a while that I've skated without places. I look at is our our feet being a lot like our hands. There's a lot of Mobility a lot of different places that you can pushing. So having that, you know flexibility in that range to be able to move my foot around in my skate. I think I can get different bushes and things like that, especially with regards to the edges when I'm teaching my edges of that. I can actually turn the inside of my boss who all the way down and lay it on the ice while I want my arm ice skating standing up there. So it I think it just again a little bit more, you know flexibility a little bit more range of motion in a you know in a game. It's a little bit tough, you know, and I play I play our alumni games with them like that now and so I can feel like if I especially if I want to do a real quick first to get out, I feel my heels, you know, pop out of my boss said maybe one day I'll leave a skate on you at one point which won't be too good. You gotta trust your the guy sharpening your skates, if you're going to wear them like that and try to make those turn off. I do they do an incredible job the guys. Yeah. Well very good. Well there we really appreciate your time. We're going to let you get out of here, and hopefully we'll talk to you again. Hopefully, we'll talk to you again in person next time on the on the Rampage. If I cast year, I look forward to a guys keep up the great work and we look forward to touching base with you again real soon. Thanks again to Darryl. We'd love to have him on again. I feel like he's a guy that has a Litany of stories that you could uncover. I mean just what a career. What a what a path to get there Zach for our second segment. We did Close Encounters a while ago and I've got another edition of Close Encounters for you. So those are just kind of things that I find that I think about. I got a few decent hockey ones off in here that are good talking points, but then I got a few things that I've just encountered that I got to talk to you about and I'll start with one of those I was at the grocery store yesterday and bought it was a grocery store that is in a sponsor. So I'm not going to say who it was we should be sponsored by a grocery store for the amount of grocery store Stories We Tell on this podcast should be we should we should really be getting some free groceries for that. Like I feel like we have a lot of Wheel of sprouts sprouts is great great grocery store so far as we're concerned at the rain, I love Sprouts, but this grocery store is that had a sales job. On on drumsticks like chicken drumsticks 16 for $3.50 like the big big package them. So I saw that and I guess I'm having drumsticks for dinner tonight. So I bought them and I realized that drumsticks are one of those foods that you just can't ever make as well as they may come at a restaurant like a wings place. So great values. I hate them they were fine, but you can never even come close trying to cook those up to a restaurant hundred percent agree. Cuz I've done the same thing. They're always cheaper than the chicken breasts and they just never are as good like I always wind up getting the chicken. There was a great deal on chicken breasts the other day pick those up. It was like a buy-one-get-one type thing and another probably different grocery stores. But yeah, I will not do like the drumsticks or the thighs at the store because I just maybe it's me or us, you know, we we just can't get them to be as good. I agree with you. Yeah, so that's dead. Just if you if you see them great value by them, but just know you're going to be somewhat disappointed. Okay, next Steven Stamkos watching him play the other night. Thank goodness. He's back home. I really didn't care about this Stanley Cup Final. If I'm being honest with the exception of I'm just happy to be watching hockey and happy that you know, they're going to award the Stanley Cup, but now that Steven Stamkos is Thursday. It's like good because it's a lightning and want it without him. It kind of would have stunk. It kind of would have felt like a jip. I think that everybody wants great players to win the cup when we don't actively root against them and he's definitely one of those for me like when I saw the capitals in the Cup finals again, I'd be cool Vegas one, but I really want Ovechkin to win a cup Stamkos is one of those guys for me. I hope they win. I hope he gets to Hoist the Stanley Cup. It was great to see him play. And do you feel the same way if that's the only if those five shifts are the only shifts he plays in the series? Yeah, because you know what he has done so much for that organization. He played a park during the season change. You know, obviously for sure he's not going to you know, he helped get them there. He has helped, you know, he's been a key piece of why they're so dominant and I don't care. I'm just happy like he's still would have been a Stanley Cup chapter in my mind to an extent if they had one at all without them. But now that they have them like thank goodness. Just get them out there for a few ship. He scored a goal. I was watching that game. And here's here's a take for you if that game three was game seven that would have been one of the greatest moments in hockey history. His goal is goal coming back if he'd come back in game seven of the cup in Sanford after that injury the way he scored that goal. That would have been like like Bobby Orr legendary memorable for me like a ball Korea kind of thing. Yeah, like one of those just like moments that you'll never forget watching the Korea the Bobby or Raymond Bourque like one of those moments. I think it would have been iconic. I think he's going to have a big series I do for game for right but I'm If he plays again, I think that he's like I don't think he's done score. I think they're going to get him goals. I mean if he they saying you might not come back at all. They said he's out for game for this bottle drop after game for probably after game five even but they said out for game for game five is still possible. All right, so we'll wait and see most expensive fourth-liner in the NHL. I just I hope he gets to raise the cup. I didn't want to see him have to come out there after not playing in the uniform and raised it that always is weird to me. So I'm glad I hope he's on the ice and off sweat and then get stores actually one of those finals where there's like a few guys on each side that I kind of feel that way about like I like I like Joe pavelski a lot of Kings fans probably don't but like that gained so much the right way like I love Joe pavelski. So it would like to see him get one just like you'd like to see Steven Stamkos get one and you know, there's a couple guys like that that You would like to see when sure. Yeah. No, I agree. The thing is with Dallas. They have Seguin and Perry who you know, I think are probably more controversial figures. So I think nationally you're going to have especially here in LA with Perry, right? You're nationally and pavelski for that matter. You're going to have more guys, uh more the nation rooting for Tampa. I think they want to see Stamkos them in those types of guys. But but no, you're right. Like I I have no problem with all scared love to see him get one to not as much as Thornton as far as right or like an Andrew cogliano type player guy who's just worked hard for writers know fifteen years grind in and out. He wasn't he wasn't there when they when the Ducks know he would have been up in Edmonton or something like that. So yeah, he was even league and right back. Okay next up not hockey-related. Chatty. Kathy's drive me crazy lately a lot of people. I maybe it's just cuz I haven't interacted with a lot of people later lately, but yep. To a restaurant and you know took took the wife out we went for a nice outdoor dinner ordered a bottle of wine and the guy talked about the bottle of wine for like ten minutes and it drove me crazy. I don't know anything about wine. I am not Jim Fox. I like wine. Like I know what I like and I know what I don't but I don't know anything about it nor do I want to know? So chatty Kathy's drive me crazy lately also airline pilots that talk to them on there. I don't care how many were high in the air? I don't care how many feet we are at chatty. Kathy's irritating. I feel like when when I'm paying for these services like I'm paying I'm paying to be on the same plane. I'm paying to eat at your restaurant not paying to hear you talk to me exactly. You know, I'm in Boston the flights taking off or six hours away to La I don't care what the weather is right now, you know don't care you're pausing the movie. So chatty cathys. I'm done with him walking. I did a lot of walking before the fires. Like I was walking four or five miles a night. We'd go out, you know, golden hour and walk just started doing it again. Now that the air quality is better. I love it feel healthy feel great. Just something I would consider walking to be exercised. Yes. I don't at least for me. Well, it depends how you're walking. So you live well. I live in the earliest area in the United States. I'm pretty young and oh, oh, oh, yeah, so I was going to say I'm up in Pasadena. There are Hills Galore like we'll walk up neighborhoods. It's oh, yeah I get exhausted. Interesting, I guess you gotta find Hills. It depends. I mean if you're going for three or four mile walks of the tunnels. Yeah. You're probably right. I don't consider it that for me. Like if I go for a leisurely walk. I don't consider that my exercise like I need to go for a run or you know work out that thing walking's nice cuz you can have a conversation you can walk around then the hills you can't like sometimes we drive up to lacanada and it's just up and down. It'll be straight up and just something I want to let you know. Okay. Another thing I miss the orange NHL logo. A lot lately. I I loved it. I loved the orange logo and there's a piece of me. That's kind of wondering like, you know, is there going to be a time maybe the next ten years? Maybe it's not orange, but that they're going to change the logo. I'm just the shield. It'll be still be something to do with that. But they going to like Sleek in it up sure. They will at some point like every I feel like the the NHL's logo has evolved a couple of times you have to say over the years and when technology grows, I'm sure at some point it'll grow I guess I just don't really think about it. It's a good it's a good point like it was cool to have the orange one wage. I don't I don't think about it at all. It's just been the black and black white and grey logo for a while. Maybe there's no white maybe just black and gray or black and silver maybe like the hundred twenty fifth anniversary. We can do a job for like a year. Go back to the orange orange referee logo, you know some lights coming up right like what ten years fifteen years fifteen Maybe. Somewhere around there a little more. Yeah something to think about. What do I know another logo thing? I was thinking of everybody's obsessed with the Wailers logo. Like it's Universe lobbed. Do you think that if they were still a team right now? It would still be like like, you know, everybody loves a Blackhawks logo to an extent like everybody seems to like that. Like do you think the Wailers logo would be an Arab people would be like, oh such a stupid logo. It's like a whale tail it's like a like a femme like you think they'd like make fun of it. You know, like it's one of those things that like when it dies it gains popularity type of thing, like sometimes you'll see it with like musicians who is music becomes popular or like a movie that becomes popular 10:15. I think it's one of those where it's not that great of a logo but it's vintage. It's like one. It's really cool. It's it's Hartford bike Hartford headed NHL team like that's cool. Yeah Hartford had a team and I think it's one of those things. I don't think it's actually that good of a logo, but when the Hurricanes where the wage Jersey's they look amazing, right? But yeah, I think they look great. There's a lot of cool Hartford things the logo itself. Isn't that great in my opinion? Yeah, I think if they were a team now, I think it's a good loan now. I think I'd be skewed my mind would be different. I think we'd all hate the logo and be like Whalers that's a stupid Hartford and then a team from when they moved to now the logo would have changed one hundred percent word. Yeah, it wouldn't be the issue. It's not like one of the original six teams where their logos don't change it would have changed. Yeah, like every other teams does. Yeah. Well, there's a few other teams, I guess right Flyers have a pretty clean one. They'll never change that bulb. I think I think there's this changed a bit like it's it's to an extent. Right? Right. Like I think Hartford would have at some point had to have done they would have changed it. Yeah, whether it's a full read off a full change or like a like a flyers or like a blues change or it's small they would have done something Hartford Connecticut. They could they could change their name to the Hartford abandoned warehouses or something. Whatever has to do with the boss. There you go, Hartford Hartford rubbish the Hartford pollution something like that. All right, right a lot. I grew up in New England you drive through Hartford a lot you get stuck there cuz that's often people think that's traffic's bad out here, Connecticut trying to drive through Connecticut to get from Massachusetts to New York is horrible. Just keep it in mind. Okay, this is a final one I have on your name is Martin Brodeur the Brett Favre of the NHL the guys kind of looking at their stats the other day like Brett Favre Hall of Famer Super Bowl champion great player leads the league in all-time interceptions and pass attempts Martin Brodeur, you know hall of fame or Stanley Cup champion leads the league in wins and losses. Right kind of similar like you're talking about just attrition with both of those guys. Like it's it's fair. I mean, I think a lot of people say brother is maybe the best goalie of all time. I don't necessarily think that's the case. They both have their you know, off-the-field issues as well, which they both played for like one team and then and then another team right at the end and it didn't really work out. Yeah fiber guy said too, but I guess that's like a pretty good comparison like they're both excellent, but maybe consider to be a little bit better than they actually work because of their longevity I think wins and losses for goalies means much, you know, like you could have an incredible goalie on a on a bad team or a great goal. You played the longer than everybody else is going to have losses like right kind of thing. But yeah, I think that's a good thing. That's a good way to put it and you know also like Brodeur played behind the Trap whereas, you know, like a dominik Hasek played behind much worse teams, right kind of thing so you could look at them. Do I think I was actually a great a great take yeah, good. I'm glad that stuff to get out of you actually. Yeah good take. All right. Well good then then definitely finish on a high note. I don't have it anymore. But even if I did I think I'd just melt good if I can get a good take out of the rain Insider be a good Friday Good Friday mean the Celtics will get a one Jayson Tatum score some points never care about the NBA until the Celtics play in the playoff. I become this like this basketball analyst we're all watch five minutes of the game and I'll start texting my friends from back home like Tatum Canada shot. This is so classic. I probably watched like little V Celtics games. In in their entirety which have all been playoff games and I'm a bandwagoner. I'm more than that one. Yeah basketball guy. Hey, they get out. I probably won't watch a game in the final so Roman R exact I think I let you go. Good stuff good talking to today. We've got a great guest next week, but I don't want to tease that too much unless you want to I mean, that's that's your call because it's just in case plans change and we'll see how it goes. Well, we'll probably will T's that next week maybe a little bit in advance. Social media good guests good guests coming up multiple weeks. All right. Enjoy your week. Well, no, when's this going to drop down? Enjoy your week? Enjoy your day. Have a good one.

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The Reigny Day Podcast | Ontario Reign

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Fox On The Run

"You're listening to an la kings podcast for more episodes of this and every other kings program visit l. a. kings dot com slash podcast. You're listening to the rainy day. Podcasts the official podcast up the antero rain with your vote. Cameron close and zack duleep. It's time to get in the hello. Everybody it's good to have you here. It's good to be here. It's good to see us zach. We've been a little We haven't done too many shows lately but it is the off season and i would think that if we were. Nc it's easier to get gas but kinda hit a wall with guests We got a great guests for you today. Though in that. Is jim fox. Coming up someone of a different interview A different went to a different place than i thought it was going to go and ended up being great so i hope everyone will enjoy it up. Zac it's good to see you. It's very good to see you got your soccer shirt on there. I see just You know part of long-sleeved shirt collection. I like to wear long sleeve shirts here at home. Just a personal preference You know what we have. Maybe you know. Been a little little light on the shows as of late. But we've worked a lot harder this offseason than any other offseason. So i think we're entitled to a couple of weeks off which we'll see how that goes. I have a little announcement you in the second segment but you gotta get through august. There's no fast forwarding in this show today jesse. Please disable the fast forward button on i tunes tunes number. You do it items on the phone. Tell him to Disable the fast forward feature. We can do that. We can do that But but i need to close in cats. Domino avowed jesse ghostbusters music. Please whatever you usually do for this. I'm not sure what the bet is for closing encounters if you're new to the new to the program The enclosed encounters things that i encounter in my daily life for that i think about things programming. Take a pretty bad time to hop in. Yes yeah you did you did. That is true so so let's get right into it first. One is the holiday season zack. And i'm buying christmas gifts for my godparents. And like i'm gonna like. What do you do. Godparent christmas gifts. I do not okay. No i gotta just say like we gotta stop. Because i don't know what to get my seven year old aunt and i don't know every. Get my my uncle. Owns a landscaping company in boston. And i just get them those gift card or like a rain switcher to the gift card phase where this is a couple not. They're not they're separate in. Which makes it tough. That's two gifts like go out to dinner on me. Gift card phase will. I wonder if there is just a conversation that needs to be added. Just like all right guys. Let's not do gifts anymore. You know guessed. You don't need that they get you a gift to. Yeah yeah they will. And and i don't need one you know so. It's such a pain to get all these stinking gifts. It's just such a pain in the same boat in a way 'cause she has nieces and nephews and like it's easier for me like i have my wife my parents and my sister and her fiance as the list for the most. It never ends now. I got another godchild. I have three children now. And so i got like shop. Probably them and it's like how much am i supposed to spend on a six month like for a gift that they will never ever ever know that you got them so that's tough but then it's like. Are they going to look up. How much i spent on amazon. So is there a threshold. I mean technology with with young young people. These days they're getting younger. Younger with lime means appearance. I think i don't know i mean the child. Six months old. I mean might be able to use amazon billion. It doesn't really matter because neither of them are probably gonna be the godparent of my future again. So i don't really worry about reciprocation. I can say that because they don't listen to the show so okay. Let's move along home along to forget. All the has on the other day and i watch a good movie. I'm not bashing the movie. There is a lot wrong with that movie. There's a lot wrong with that. move in. Forget being family that just just to cut in here. That went through the events of home alone. One and then allowed home alone to happen. Yeah yeah i forget all that like. Let's just stale economic like there's a scene where he's crawling into that abandoned house or apartment and he's crying through like vertical pipe and it's like clearly he's like walking along with the pipes vertical so it really ish shark tank the best show on right now because i can watch shark tank all day long and has there ever been a show that you can just put on put on that like gets. It's just never gets old shark tank. Might be the only show for me. That's in that category. That i could watch repeatedly like i. I don't think we're talking about shows like the office here. I'm talking about like like a like a business. That kinda show. Is that a reality show. Would you may be loosely. It's certainly the only program in that john. I do with impractical jokers which has some. But that's it's different but it's you know i can do it with that for sure right. I think back to when i was in middle school. Or whenever and watch like room raiders. Bro come home. There is room raiders. There was next. Yeah go ahead. It was a good lineup. I think it was an mtv. Yeah so i'm shark tank okay. What amount of money. I sting in about this across encounters. This isn't really a question for you as much as i was encountering in my own line. What amount of money what. I find brown bag. That i would say i need to bring us to the police. Or what would. I just keep so i will ask you. I'm not picking up. Aaron brown paper bags in this current Climate how about you saw inside. I is like i feel like there's no situation really where i would keep it. I think i'd either leave like brent. Yeah it's a good point. I don't think i'd bring that to the police. Now i keep i keep it or leave the bag. I don't think that's a merits it's clip so like if i found a briefcase with one hundred thousand dollars in. I don't want anything to do with that. I don't want anything to do with that at all. I don't even think. I touch it right because that's like breaking bad your debt. You're probably dead the second you do. I found a thousand dollars in it. I'm gonna keep it. I was reading something online the other day. That said that maybe aliens have found us by. They are waiting until we are ready to come meet us and i was thinking to myself like we're pretty advanced like maybe were the most advanced so why in every movie or other stop. Are the aliens. Always the ones that are like way beyond us like. Maybe we're the smartest ones i feel like if you're talking about aliens and they're anything but more advanced than last like i'm not interested. It's kind of like another animal species at that point like if they're not more advanced than us like i don't care about them to be at least close or events that i know what you're thinking i know what you're thinking. You're thinking well cam if they were able to make it to earth and they clearly advanced but what if like on that planet they just put all their resources into their space program and never invented the internet. I mean if aliens have developed a fully functional space program that. I'm interested like that's pretty cool. Yeah not like a business species of dog. I don't care it's just another. You know another species of something. That's pretty advanced. And you have a full of fully-fledged space program. But i'm saying like what if they put all their eggs in ascot and never spent any time on the internet or on professional sports. Like that's all they did. They're like this is all we. Do you know at some like crazy communist society where everybody works into the space program and like that's all they care about is getting off the planet space. I don't know i've never thought about that. Whether there is a communist based alien society with one hundred percent of their resources dedicated space program. i haven't gone down that rabbit all personally and again. These are my encounters is my segment always interests me. That were like the dumb blondes. When the pretty a lot maybe we can take them. Maybe we can take them to okay. Okay and and you know what that actually just. Maybe things l. Speaking of things that we can advance on. How long's it gonna take until until l. a. l. eight. A boston is in a six hour flight. Like it's been a six hour flight since the beginning of planes. When is going to be like stop working on solid trains and start working on a cell. A planes make that a two hour flight now. That's on that i'm behind. I want some resources put into that. Like there's no reason at these flights should still be the same time no rain. Yeah i i'm with you there okay. The final thing. I think i've said this before. But harry potter is the best fiction work conviction ever started reading the bucks again for the third or fourth time. Excellent secrets now. Just finished the sorcerer's stone. I know they don't really good until four. Like really really good. But i'll get there. I kind of liked that. They progressed as i progress to like. They like a sorcerer's stone was like the coolest book. Ever when i was twelve when it came out but then when i was eighteen and in my twenty s whenever when the final came out it was like i could appreciate it more but like the sorcerer's stone was still sick at twelve. Yeah got darker. He got older. Yeah appreciate like that that. The books were so much better at the end. There's there really good to beginning for was extremely plane reading if you ever need plain reading. That's that's how i started. Okay all right. So that's close encounters for today. Now jim box our guest today Lopped talamante again. I i mentioned it at the top of the program. Great interview definitely listen to it it. Is you know he is a very thoughtful guy and really opened up a bit about about his experiences during his playing career that were fascinating so It definitely goes again like kind of a different way. then a lot of our interviews. Go where were usually very light. This one isn't and it was a lot of it. It was excellent so enjoy that and we'll talk to you on the other side. Jim fox is the color commentary. Voice of the l. a. kings on wouldn't know at fox sports west amongst other channels. We see him on from time to time. He's also a former. La king and nhl hockey player and he joins us now. Jim how aria well. Everything's going okay. Hanging in there slowing down again. Got busy for a while. But now we're slow and hopefully get busy very very soon. We saw on your twitter. You recently we're under the upper body. Injury zach termed before we came on got a little got a little work done on the chompers just an issue there with my well as you get older you have wisdom teeth that maybe have been around too long so i had to get that taken out assist underneath the wisdom tooth which had to be taken out a so they have to get into your job a little bit there so but the doctor the dentist oral surgeon. Who did it doctor. S phenomenal job. His entire staff was was incredible. So just a couple days later. And i think back one hundred percent already i've been doing the The teeth liners not not the brand name. One you're thinking of a different one but we'd again onto the ads on near a doing them and it was a nightmare for a while. But i'm getting to the end and i'm very excited. Nice young all right. Let's start out with a would you rather and zach. It's gonna be a little different view most of try to make it work for everybody. This one's pretty tailored to To j. f. And i got i got a little mix for you but we're gonna start with jim so would you rather for the rest of your life have to give up wine. And we're going to that a little later. We know you're a big vintner or you can never get a pair ice skates again. Very very very simple answer. I haven't laced on a pair of skates over a year so really. It's an easy eighty. I did enough skating skating. God it's over. I got a new hip. It doesn't work as well as well as wants to. So my back is sore. My legs are sore. My knees are sore. My ankles are sore but my left hand and elbow worked fine for lifting a glass of lineup. So fair enough. We'll give up the skating. I thought you might. You might want the skit you know you still have the hairs feel when you skate around and you know you get the maybe get to go skate outside some time if you go up north. I don't know maybe i was less maintenance. It was a lot of fun. Zach all lay the same one on you. But i'm gonna include all alcohol for you because i don't think you have as tailored palate as jim nez so beer wine liquor jungle juice. Whatever it is you and you can't have any of it anymore. Or you can't skate as much as i love attending open hockey every so often i think i would also be hanging up the skates Especially during these these times it would think. I'm doing a little bit more of drinking alcohol than i am skating at the moment and i live in the present so that's where i'm at as well. Okay all right fair. And i probably do the same even without quarantine. I'm probably drink more than i'm skating. Anyway so what. Am i going to do I'd like to say it's skating but it is an honest guy with you on this podcast for these listener. So all right jim. Let's get ready to open up with an easy one. How'd you get in to the color sign of things. It seems to stories are the same. When i went when you former players ended up finding yourself in the booth at end of the day like many many people who are involved in national hockey league and the evolution of the league over the last thirty five years i would say dates back to wayne gretzky because playing with the case for eight years wayne was traded. Here i was injured around the same time ended up playing ten years. Put your i retired. Wayne you've been with the team for a couple of years. The team decided that you know what instead of doing simulcast which they used to do. Which again is the same signal sends out both radio and tv feed. You only have to announcers basically of course you have to change up intermissions and things of that sort. Because they can't sing together on radio and tv. They said rescues here. We're more attractive in the marketplace. Where people wanna see our team. Why don't we split that apart in two different revenue streams so we'll have a tv and radio fee while they decide to do that so what they do. They need some extra bodies now. They need an analyst on tv knicks. Move over to play by play on radio op state of course with the play by play on tv. I was the new guy on the block recently. Retired but i think again it all goes back if wayne had not come here with. The king has been a popular as they are. They've been attractive in the market with there. Been a need to separate the radio. Tv seed so. I was the right place at the right time for that. And that's how it was started for me. I remember that the way. Milwaukee was the former president with the kings bruce. Michelle called me aside one day and just said would you be interested in doing. I said yeah. I'd love to do the radio. They normal on the tv so that sounds good to do so you went. There wasn't too much time between when you finish your playing career. You got into the analyst job so a lot of the players were probably the same. And how did your relationships change going from like being one of the boys to you're on the other side of things but you're still working with the same guys. There's there's a time period there there's period where you are still very close with everyone. There's no question about that and again going in definitely a a homer on the broadcast because again you're you're so emotionally invested into it because you were on the ice of the year late. Excuse me year before that with these guys. The coaching staff of course being with the kings for a long period of time but That slowly grows apart so to speak on. You just realize that in order to do your job properly that there has to be somewhat of a separation. It's not always going to be tight and you're not always going to have all the information you want out of course being addressed through and that's something that you just get used to you'll learn about and to be honest in this market anyway. At least for the kings and the way that the kings of the management broadcasts be presented. They wanted to be more objective. They want to be less homer like of course bobbing here so long. That's the kind of the tone that he said they won. That same tone to be neil Going forward and i think you just learn to slowly separate. Of course i still worked for the kings of always worked for the kings kings win every single game but There is a period of time. They are where you grow part and then you come to the comfort zone that area where you understand okay on close enough on. I'm far enough. I can do my job. Have you ever been in a situation. You're you're eyelid agree that you're pretty objective guy when we watch on tv. And i think you call it like you see it quite often as their ever situation where you've said something about a player and the player than after the fact said. I didn't like that. I heard about this and you had to have a confrontation was something he said that whether you've used your ground or not yeah. I don't know if it ever became a confrontation. But i think that happens quite a bit to be honest. I think the way it does happen. The most is that either a friend of the player. Here's family member. The player has because of course the players playing at the time normally and they don't really get a chance to hear as it said and would say many times it's misinterpreted was brought to that player. And i remember maybe maybe four five six different conversations with players over the years not not too many over the years and why immediate reaction would always be okay. Let's go and sit down and watch and in all of those times. Never got to that point. They didn't want to do that. They didn't want to take it any further. There are times. When i'm sure player or players family member thought i crossed the line or whatever and i appreciate the fact they would come to me. That would be the best thing to do. And i think that would be. The most honorable thing to do is come to the person or the hormone. Just talk to him. The person that strategizes and make it happen that way. And that's but i don't. I don't think it ever ever got to a point of confrontation. When larry robinson was the head coach here i remember many times sitting across room and he would say things to me. I see larry. I can't use it on here says no you had you go ahead and use it. I have no problem. He'd say go ahead. Go ahead and i would say no. I can't submerse. there's juggling act. They are there once. The game starts then. Everyone at home watching can see the video. That doesn't hi now. You can break down different ways. You can emphasize the positive. You can emphasize the negative. You can try to find a balance between the two because basically on. Let's say on every goal. There's probably a positive thing that happens for the team that scores and there's negative thing that happens for the team allows ago. You have to find that balance because if you keep harping on the negative is gonna get old very quick to keep harping on a positive. It's going to get very quick. So you gotta find that balance and that's regal but no confrontation probably never never had someone in front of me. What's going on here. Would you say yeah never happen. I think it'd be a good. I like the response with. Let's watch film. I think maybe as we move forward. I like jim fox breakdowns with the players where we look at on the video and we see guys watching the film. May we started looking at bad things. Instead of the austin wagner beautiful goal up the ice we see the bad backcheck and that becomes the breakdown video that could be a little entertainment value. there cannot nowadays. it's players are so inundated with video since they've been now nowadays it's since they're five years old so i don't think they take offense that much to sitting down and going over it. I think back in the day. And i'm going back a different generation or two i play. Yeah there there was probably felt like you were being confronted now. I think we're the player is presented video. It's it's to reinforce something they know. it doesn't lie. The analysts can have a different perspective. The ascom have an incorrect perspective. On what's for instance the team systems. Maybe one team a player's supposed to react a certain way. Another another system reacting completely differently man on zone. Who's taking this guy wins. The switch happening all things changed so if the analysts is not up to date on. What's going on. You can make a wrong call. It's still an opinion Still a perspective but can be wrong to switch gears a little bit. And i found a a random fact about your your playing career. That you darrell. Evans and mike studies were all in the same nhl draft. You were drafted little bit before those guys. How often do you bring up the daryl that you went seven rounds before him in the draft. I'm sure it's never but actually you had such a big junior year Leading into that draft like. What was your draft experience like way back then. Completely different to the drafts experience i did not attend. The draft ended up going tenth overall. So you know fairly high in the first round but it wasn't the production it is now so it is completely different. Just at home received a call from the king's management. Draftable get back to you in a couple of days with information on training camp. That was yet. No real interviews. No nothing no going to perform in montreal or wherever the draft taking place. I think action my draft. An eighty was decreed elizabeth hotel in montreal. They just did it kind of bank room so that that's that has changed. Dramatically played against erla junior quite a bit Remember play against him because his team's really good might gyms. I played all real good as far as being the top league had a great time starts Definitely stayed away from him as much as possible. I'm sure he was chasing me around a few times because You know he was huge. huge fans. Been tough tough of kid and Just fond memories of those they. That was back. When was the extra a not the. Oh l. shame laying just a different terminology. A high and for those who played in that league consider at the best developmental league in the world for presenting players to the national hockey league. And i would say different Remind daryl anything about the draft status. That has nothing to do with. He's gone on to prove that you don't have to be a first round. Pick to make the national hockey late starts. Who was just really was. And i did get to know him that well on jericho but the last couple of times when he was here meeting about toyota sportscenter toy sports performance center now when the both teams moved together that that was better for me. Because i got a chance to chat with him a few times. And and i'll be honest at times. We did shot was reminiscent back to the days. You spend your entire. Nhl career with the kings. You don't see that often especially nowadays although maybe there's a couple of guys that you never know that are on the team now. That could happen. But it's few and far between. It's it's one guy a team. Maybe and it's usually the the sidney crosby of the world the expect right. What does it mean to you that you were able to spend your full career in la with kings and were there opportunities during your career. Did you come close to jump ship. Maybe taken an offer somewhere else. Walk us through that the way to walk you through it again. It's it's y- you're definitely making me feel old. Because the rules were completely different back in free agency was basically existent so the opportunity to move go from wanting to another was not a choice of player basically. It started to come in a little bit more and more near the end of my career but basically that was not the opportunity to happen After roy was retired you end up talking to a couple of gm's and a couple of players or coaches and say yeah we were looking at your trade for those types of things but a fortunate is the word. I use fortunate to stay in one place not have to deal with that. It's something that can be traumatic to a lot of players. I know of brian anglo came here and then talk to him as a player and he'd been traded before the first time. It's pretty tough on the then you kind of get used to it more and more it happens then to go on with post playing career is something has no looking back forty years now. He'll be four years this year. The kings i think that's that's something that Man would you change. Anything would never change anything. I'm just so happy and fortunate to be before for four years in event they you were part of in your career. That interested me was represented team canada at the world championships in nineteen eighty six in soviet union. How drastic was like the culture shock. Just going over there for even a couple of weeks because that was like in the heart almost like the cold war and what people would consider like like the soviet union nineteen days the into toy tell in moscow russia in all honesty. It is the experience that i will never forget. It had the biggest impact on me of any experience. I've had in pro sports. The competition was phenomenal again. It's the same. It's the same format as it is nowadays where basically the teams that don't make the playoffs in the nhl. that's where you select your teams from but back then. The russian players were not in the nhl so they had their national team but so many different experiences It was a closed environment. I mean it was communist. Russia then mistaken. I have my history correct. United states was involved in libya at the time. The united states team playing for team canada but us team was under heavy heavy security but just entering the country. You take your passport. The military gentleman behind the glass. He takes has it for about ten minutes per person stares at you looks out. You doesn't appear to do anything and then after ten minutes go ahead. Same thing on the way out when you get there a lot of instructions of what to do and what not to do from team. Canada front office. People don't exchange money cheap your american dollars on exchange it you get caught exchanging not only. You're in trouble the person who's buying it for you on the black market. Get in trouble all those types of things playing the game. Russia has by far the best team in the world at least at that tournament because of again canadian teams in the american teams. You can only pick from teams. Didn't make the playoffs. The day we played team. Russia was a seven thirty game. Say a down and have your team meal. Come back have your afternoon nap two pm. Everyone stays on the same floor. Each team had in florida staying two pm. All the radios. Everyone of our hotel rooms went off. Full blast full blast music just blaring waking everyone up you get up to try to do. The dials on doesn't turnoff for about thirty minutes. That way get to the game. There's offsides it shifts. Just it's so. I think they beat us only three one thereby they didn't need to cheat but they didn't everything know my radio didn't go off or any other game. We played tournament. it didn't go. You know nothing like that happened. Just a lot of difference. Seeing older women sweeping the streets with a brunettes made from approach and smaller branches tied to cars. All the same color people's clothing just all drab smiling. When i came back we won. We won the bronze soaring for the long answer. But i think it's it's you can tell how much it's impacted me flying aeroflot's from moscow to frankfurt. No problems about may fifth frankford la direct. I believe pan. Am i believe that. American airlines the longer around you go over the cap or cap so still an of an hour flight hour into the flight. The screens come down. They played the abc morning news. Had taken place. We had not heard one word whatsoever while we were there zero no news nothing about chernobyl zero. We find out about it where we're flying back. Those are the experiences that we come back. You realize how fortunate we are. This is no lot. When i got off the plane from moscow to frankford all dressed in our suits back then the stood of having the way that attached to the plane. You just get off onto the tarmac and walk into the terminal outweigh i. Got down on my hands. Lease just the ground literally. That's not not telling. I got down on my hands in these sue just ground. It's a pretty unbelievable i nineteen. It's amazing nineteen days. There will do that to you. I imagine that your experiences were probably shared by some of your teammates than at that time. We we have our own problems here. We have hunger problems we have. You know everything. But i eight henry chocolate bars cookies for nineteen days. When they brought you milk they had kurds. it report it would be chunks liberature meal. It was a steak it was eighty percent fat. I'm not i hope. We hope every country can get to a point where it's not like that head of course since then there's been a lot of changes in that area world but we hung together now we together. That group was just. I was so we'll never ever ever forget that it was incredible. Wasn't wasn't the most fun experience in the world but it was the most. It's something i will never ever forget. Did the team have any idea going into hockey canada. Give you a. Hey just so you know. There's going to be the food situation. There might be some shady things going on or was it a big shock second. He got it Now they prepared you. They tried to prepare again. I don't. I don't think i was prepared. For i mean we went to the bolshoi ballet so you see all of that and that is phenomenal. actually the subway system in moscow. You go under there. You could see art that was on the walls of the subway and was colorful of his grade. But once you everyday life and again i times for us here even as we speak in two thousand twenty around the world were trying to get to a point where we can all get as much joint out of life as possible but the day to day life. They're just appeared so miserable for the people. It's way it appeared to me I would sit at. The front of the boston and i would argue with our our interpreter every day about communism dapple is. I would argue with every single day. And you know when you don't know any better that's and you know i'm sure there's people today who feel it's still better that way and they're i respect. Their opinion disagree with one hundred percent but i respected. Everyone has different perspective of what's going on. But they prepared us they did. They gave us some heads up. There was a lot of what not to do and out. You know it's things that we would just take for granted here. I mean the lady that every team had their own floor on each floor. There was two guys. Get off the elevator guys. That's out there. That was their job. Everyone job right congress russia. Everyone has a job. Their job was to be the monitors of that soar security. If you want to call it dasher then one lady who was the housekeeper. She would take care of all of the rooms on that floor and she had a room herself. She lived in that room. Marcatti and i were roommates. We forgot her key. One night got back not too late but we had to wake her up to get into our room so we inconvenienced there right. So what do we do. We're north american ri. Both peel off a twenty dollar bill. give a tour. She starts to cry. We just gave her about six months. Pay tip that we would do normally but they didn't have much have much different world different world for sure. Let's i can't i mean i never would have expected. The zacks question would've would've elicited those experiences. It's pretty unbelievable. You hear about some of the things that guys go through now when they go over to europe and they play in some of these leagues. That aren't run that well. And now every time i hear one of those stories. I am going to not really care about that. Guy's bad experiences in two thousand hundred. Twenty bella rush like doesn't matter anymore to me so you know i opening talk about culture change. We get back to north america and we had an annual golf trip that we did every year at the end of the seas springs. Lakisha ella foreigner so in a period of about thirty six hours went from moscow. Palm springs you talk about a big culture shock. I'd say that was. That was just incredible to go from you. Know playing beautiful golf courses to to you know back to going to a restaurant anytime he wanted. You know just but again. I you don't sometimes you need to. You need to see it firsthand right. You need to experience it firsthand. You need to go through an and see how fortunate that you really are are in number. I would tell when. I came back know if anyone friends were saying. They're having problem with her kids. You know you're going up and maybe get a little spoiled. I sit santa borussia. We'll be spoiled anymore. Yeah they won't be spoiled anymore. I'll tell you this will appreciates stuff a little bit more when they come back. That's for sure. We'll let's let's transition into some of the beauties of southern california than let's go back to the palm springs esque side of it because i did wanna talk you know. We opened up the show With look into your wine I guess i. I almost don't even know what i call it because for you it's the second profession at this point You have your own winery. You make your own winds. And i have heard from multiple people one of them. Zach the other one Alex faust your partner mentioned that you can pretty much drink any wine in. No everything wanted as the the story. That i've heard is that on the road. You'll get the menu and you will tell the the waiter a waitress to bring you a glass of whatever they want and you'll be able to point to what it is that true. It's just it's i would say it's normal tests that you try to give to yourself as you go through wine education. The best way to learn is blind tasting so are double-blind for instance double-blind means. You don't know what it is whatsoever single blind you might be means you can look at the menu and there might be twenty five lines on there but at least you know. It's one of those twenty five so a lotta times i say you know. Bring the white line. Bring me a red wine and you go through that. It's not it's it. It can be fun and it leads to a lot of discussion if you if you're interested in that type of stuff a lot of people aren't but i am. It is the best way which to test yourself and to improve your skills and to try to recognize different factors in line components in wine the elements in line. You're talking about you're talking about flavors you're talking about taste you're talking about mafia you're talking about a whole bunch of things and then you try to try to narrow it down. You're trying to get down to a category of line. Then you try to name the region you if the grape region have a little age on him It's it's it's a lot of fly. I consider that a lot of fun. I gotta say. I appreciate the modesty humility. But the way it's been told to me is that you do not miss so i gotta dig in. I have been told you. Don't miss i you know. I understand the game. I think alex told me. He bought the most random wine he could ever find one time and he got you once but from everybody else. They say that that. You're apparently the guy. And i think that that has got to be a nice skill to have one way on. Yeah it's you have you try and believe me. It's very very difficult. And i think the people are being very. They're just trying to be nice to me because the more you do that the more you realize that you're gonna get wrong. Master sommelier which is responding. Now they're getting up almost three hundred people in the world but that's it only three about three hundred master sommeliers. They get it wrong every day. And what i'm trying to do is get a category know hopefully a region that that way but you know in all honesty eat allow hotel menus. You get used to the types of wine. They're going to serve there so you can you kind of. Even though you're blind or double blind he can have an idea of what's going on before you go in. That is the best way pats as we make only war. We make only california pr. But i think it's very important to learn as much as possible but otherwise from anywhere in the world because that will only help my appreciation. Why remember when i started. When you're identifying lines. It was identify the components of the line. That were the positives of the line. Now i find myself. I guess the more you learn about it. I find myself looking for flaws nor as opposed to the positivecoach. You can downplay it all you want. But i got to see some games in some pretty cool places in the nhl and in that was still one of the most fun experiences from my nhl travels with seeing you just boom boom boom in a row does knock them all out and they would. They waitresses and the waiters would try to stump you but they couldn't do it and it was his memorable keep in mind. We only do one loss. That's not boom. I'm talking city to city. of course. okay. Yeah city city. Of course i only do one whilst wine and that's one after another the it goes down. Well i like her and that was. That was a perfect example. Right there for our listening audience. Jim fox showing his humility zach. Zach coming in. He just wanted to remind you that he was up with the kings for a bit was on charter flights. That was that was the totally. Obviously and that's why. I know you've all come to expect with this. Co host of my. I gotta question for you and this one's more for me when it comes to wine what what is in your opinion and i said earlier. We don't do free ads. But i guess we're gonna do when you're maybe maybe you won't. Maybe you won't have. I don't know but is there a wine that you can buy everywhere. That's a cheaper wine. I find myself going to the grocery store and buying the rubble We never use the word cheap. We use the word. Inexpensive okay inexpensive. I'm from new england. jim. I like i like you. I look at the negatives of things inexpensive bottle of wine that you think you know what that one stands out of it as like. That's a respect for me. A guy who knows why. That's a respectable bottle wine and and you can get it anywhere at. It's not inexpensive. I can give you a type of woman. I'm not gonna go into brand names okay. But and it's nowhere near what we make here with baton or united states. But i would say chianti so it's a it's can be simple to extremely complex but i think your entry level point of say a twenty dollar bottle of wine i think chianti right now is the best value in the world that way for giving you an understanding of wine you can appreciate. You don't need to know a lot. About of course being an old world wine italian wine. It usually goes very well with a lot of foods. So i think that would be your starting point. It's not it can't way. I classify wind basically breakdown is in food wine or is it a cocktail cocktails wine. You can drink. You don't need food to appreciate it. I think john is right in that balance area. It's rate in the area where it will enhance your experience with food but it can also be drank as a cocktail. And i think that's something that so that's where i would start in the red and in white wine it would be something to me. It would be a large chardonnay from burgundy again. You're talking about twenty dollars a bottle of wine chardonnay grape different style. We make here in the united states or in the new world but those the tucson going to recall old world wines european lines. That's where i started. I started my basic understanding. Wine started with all old world wines. Italian french maybe some spanish in the urban once in a while but a chianti analyzed chardonnay from burgundy goes to right there. I wanna make sure zach. I don't want to cut you off. But and i'm sure our your fan base. Probably our fan base falls into it so they probably already know this. But you've mentioned patna a couple of times and that is the fox family winery. So i wanna make sure that everybody knows that who was wondering. What what what gyms talk about. When he says pat today wine so as a french word it translation is the past participle of skate to have skated. When we were looking for a name. We were thinking about. You know what we had to be very careful. We didn't want to because of the level align we feel we make which is it's not an entry level we call it a celebration where it's sixty five dollars a block. It's not something that you would drink every day but we felt. Do you wanna tied into sports too much because then it just becomes a wine. That next athlete is involved with as opposed to a great line. And but then we kept coming back to the same thing which was in hockey. What do you need. You need balance when you're skating. Balances is so important while you talk about wine. That's what you're looking for. You're looking for the balance. Between five six seven different elements or components that go into a wine the acidity the tan the alcohol level the oak treatment all voice types of things to come together and if those were balanced and you have a great wine so we kept going back and forth balanced with hockey ballots with wind and we went with cats. And it'd be it works. We also did a. We also did a little bit of a marketing. Just a word of mouth. Just kind of thing. And i did a little research online in. Pay any marketing firm but they felt that if people struggled pronouncing the line they would spend more so. This is a nice this is you. Don't buy this box is what you're saying. This is a frontier situation. It is packaged in a box. You have three bottles within not very good. Well i think i think maybe zach do. We have that in the rainy day budget by box for the two of us. Maybe we could We could trade some for a dashboard at toyota arena. This upcoming rains today. Podcast has a dashboard. So we'll work something out a low under the or you guys stop. Stop working so hard and after practice. One day was crocodile over. That's that might be a plan to me. I think that that's actually probably a great place to leave it. In jim we wanted a thank. You really appreciate you coming on. Hopefully we're going to see on the tube sooner than later and I think that you're starting to hear the little rumblings this is going to. What are we gonna put this out in like a week so hopefully by then you have heard an announcement who knows. I don't know anything's on not intimating anything to you But hopefully we see a sooner than later. Yeah thank you very much. I think that I think the nhl leg and the players association during the bubble of the playoffs phenomenal job. they were recognized throughout the sports industry for doing a phenomenal job. I know there's been some blips here trying to restart again but the challenges that have to be overcome it looks like the leadership from both sides realize that we just have to get back on the ice. We have to do it safely. Maybe a i will not be a lot of live fans but let's hope by the end of this regular season. I know they're talking about right now wrapping everything up including the playoffs by the end of july or mid july. I think i think by then. I'm hoping by then perhaps we'll have the opportunity to be playing in front of live crowds again but again you know the safety and health will dictate and the guys. I know you're looking forward to it to we'll get together. We'll have a great time to get this excellent product back on the ice again. Maybe un un alexan- opposing boxes will plexiglas boxes. A little farther away from alex would be the best fair for me. But not this spin is i think right now just just to go off on track for one second. Alex is transitioning the kings. Can you imagine how difficult that would have been guys. You're taking over. Bob menendez just an incredible shoes. You need to fill. It's such a huge huge challenge and You know even back then but now we see. Alex is being recognized nationally He's getting a lot of work that way and it only goes to show the credibility that the kings used in selecting him because they understood the talent of he brings. And it's still you know still going to be no before. Alex is historically the kings. It's going to be ten years before you build that up but the quality he's putting on the broadcast is just phenomenal. I i totally agree. Reading's act does as well. And i i think gives act didn't then he wouldn't say anything about it on the show but i think we're both right there. I do think that he may have stolen my glasses. Look i think that had he saw he liked it he then took it over but that that's a that's a whole other for their issue on the air. An excellent excellent was buffalo. that was buffalo. yeah. I think he's law. I remember it was a huge decision with or without with or without. And i mean once you put those glasses on their on the clark kent. Look as to stay because you can't go back and forth on something like the contacts had come out at that point yet. I didn't have another pair with me. At the i was in huntley glasses and before we go Just a a little story of my experience with jim was that game. I was my first time on tv. I was about to pee myself. I was so nervous. And jim probably wouldn't even remember this but he he just gave me a little pep talk before i went on and made me feel extremely confident and i did okay as a result and i a lot of that to you so i really did appreciate. That amazon was important moment for me. I know what i said. No one knows more about what you're going to talk about than you. I think about that a lot of covered it you you. Did your homework did research. And that's why you can be confident. Communicated extremely extremely helpful for me side. I thank you once again. I give you. I gave it a five out of ten on that glasses given the other five. So maybe maybe something like that. I couldn't look away. Jim thanks for coming on. And hopefully we'll talk to you again at some point. My pleasure guys anytime okay. So thanks again to jim for coming on really appreciated having him by by some of that wine zach. I'm talking to you talking to me up. Youtube is all right big announcement. I told you there is an announcement. Maybe you heard. Maybe it would hurt. Because i think this probably only place. I'm going to say it. This is going to be the last rainy day podcast because i am abandoning zach. I'm abandoning the rain. And i'm leaving. I have taken a job In detroit or for the red wings and tigers. I won't be broadcasting games. I'm hoping to maybe keep doing that. But let's not get another personal stuff. Because i think it's better to burn out than fade away. Neil young one said. And so i know what you're wondering. Now who's gonna fill in In join zack. As he continues up these pains. And i don't know i don't know I don't know what will happen. What are you thinking right now. I mean i mean how could we possibly replace you It's been raining in ontario for the last year and a half. It's finally going to be sunny day without the rainy day. Podcast starting in twenty twenty one So bittersweet you know we had a great run. Here was excited to keep it going. But i'm looking forward to some some time away from the from the microphone busy good. This became a simon and garfunkel situation. And yes. I am. The paul simon in this group and will likely go on to be wildly successful whereas zach will have mrs robinson and that's about it as as far as his hits go. I'm moving on out. I will get into a few things in a sack. But i another thing. You're thinking as who's going to call the ring games. And i think it's gotta be used back and i know everyone's like well that can't call the games second kagame. He's never called a hockey game before bites little. Do you know zach as a matter of one time hopped on the mike in called. Play by play for the terreaux fire. Department verse d. n. y. Game and i have a couple of clips from that game to an active. Going gonna put these on. I'm going to put him on to just give you a feel for what's coming out the bye-bye now you guys may have you thinking. Wow we liked listening again. It was pretty okay on the games but it is. I think going to add a level of excitement. So here's just one clip. That i'll play now. Sixteen seconds left on the clock on panthers on. This is the most exhilarating game i've seen in my life. The sixteen bazan italians are going berserk. We had seven seven game. Twelve point four on the clock here at citizens business bank arena. What a saturday afternoon. Matinee team home crowd atmosphere s really pushed antero odd. Ny sdn y they. They might be a little bit rattled hearing this timid visiting atmosphere. S some there. I mean you future in this. I mean i'm used to calling games with sixteen or less people at them. So that's that's me up well to do this during a pandemic it's So that's one thing in my favor Like color man from that game is a one time rainy day. Podcast guest mas- mcelroy. I'm sure he would up and leave his current job with vegas come back and be the rain kellerman unpaid of course as you can tell by his performance in that obviously wouldn't pay him to do color I think he would probably leave in a heartbeat to that. So the tandems there. I mean the the obvious answers in place with myself on play by play nat color. So we'll see you know maybe Maybe i do have a few. Maybe though You know some other. Nhl teams here that call on this rainy day. Podcast they want me to call. Nhl games and the rain are still looking. I don't know you leave as well. Yeah maybe you know that could volt. Nbc job doc. Emrick guy retired. Maybe they hear this. They just kind of me up to that job So something to think about moving forward. So let's wrap up here. i do you know. There's a lot of people that i like. That i've said to so i'm not gonna do it here But this podcast has been an absolute blast. And so i do want to thank everyone who has lessons This is been a ton of fun of once. We got into the rhythm of it. And i think we did a good thing here with this. I'm really gonna miss call in the ring games like calling the game. Not being able to do that consistently is very bitter sweet. I guess it's just bitter. It's not sweet leaving bittersweet but calling. The game's not not being able to do that next year. It's tough But the just gonna be here. And i'm not going to get into because it's really not any your business you listeners. But i But i am going to miss all of you. I love doing this. Podcast and i love working for the rain and you never know. Maybe i'll see again. Maybe i won't But i just thank you for listening and we have had a lot of fun doing this. Podcast i think zach. Have you know. I have a lot of funded. Didn't really know what to expect when a lot better than it did. In our trial run in two thousand eighteen nineteen so is it was really cool to kind of see what it turned into to be able to have some really cool guests on some of our our players our top prospects you know sharing some stories and having fun. I thought that we took it in our own direction. Didn't care what anyone else thought. And i liked that. We had the chance to do that. Yeah i agree so again. Thank you to all of you. Thank you to our supporters of his reign staff year. And darren glenn we're We're big supporters and in the as well mike and kelly cheesman was big friend of the program we We always appreciated that support. But we're going to put this thing to bed. The rainy day podcast is gonna go out of the world just like it came in which is very mysteriously and very auspiciously. So that's how that's how we're gonna leave this zach good luck. I'm sure you'll work your release another month but i. I don't know maybe leave. Maybe won't be able to do it without me. I have kind of been You've been riding my coattails this organization for long enough. Maybe the time is up sharply in the local paper to try and replace that how we hire down these days just like a like a wanted like wanted middle aged five gaster with sas. I think you should open auditions open. Auditions zach a week long. Tweet year your audition at rain. Insider and i will be happy to listen to all audition tapes. That are tweeted to me. I think that's a great idea. Degraded him all right everyone. It has been a blast. We'll talk to you later. Maybe probably not for now is just goodbye.

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On The '93 Campbell Conference Final, More Postseason Awards & Mailbag Questions

Fox and Faust | LA Kings

51:11 min | 1 year ago

On The '93 Campbell Conference Final, More Postseason Awards & Mailbag Questions

"You're listening to an LA kings podcast for more episodes of this and every other kings program visit L. A. Kings Dot com slash podcast. Gm as we take this on Wednesday. I should let you know that I still haven't finished the Sunday. La Times crossword puzzle. And I I might need your help at some point this week I'm glad to hear that you're taking a crack at it. I think this week's took me. It took me about three hours so only hours. Yeah you got it every once in a while you gotta jump away from him just having we just gotTa jump away because then you know clear the mind whatever happened to weirdest thing the weirdest thing you can be struggling for one clue answer and put it down. Come back ten minutes later. Ben TRADE THERE. What happens old sock lost in the dryer routine? And you lose your mind for a few minutes all of a sudden you renew back there. That's wrangler okay. Well you know what I'll to try because I've been doing a little bit at a time. I've been only sitting down at like ten minutes at a time to try to do this thing so I might have to Might have to take your strategy of do like one hour go away do another hour and then come back now. Did you get to steam. I haven't gotten the theme yet. Now that's you know and sometimes that you know depending on the crossword sometimes you get it in the first five minutes and then it's cake right and sometimes you don't get in the first five days and it just ruins the whole exact whole exercise. Okay so I gotta ask just open ended how you been thanks thanks Raskin. That's nice of you everything's okay. I think we talked last time. I think that now that it's more clearly defined. What's in front of us? I think it helps the mind. Focusing on solutions has opposed to worst-case scenarios. And I think that's something it's tough. It's tough watching the news. Because and you know obviously depends when you tune in and we're listening to what agency is a government. Is it just as interesting? That's that's what makes it interesting but at the same time I find that it can be depressing at times so I try to limit that and mostly just listened to the government officials. Were trying to get their information out there because I want to follow the guidelines as much as possible and actually I should rephrase that I wanNA follow the guidelines so I've kind of gone in a similar way where I I don't watch TV anymore. And I've been kind of just trying to steer away from from any sort of cable television as sort of news oriented if I need to read it. It's there but I found the first week to be really really hard like this jarring news. You know between the end of hockey and shutting down everything. Okay that was really really hard. And then the second week in it's available little bit of routine every day at two o'clock. I'll go for a walk and will Make dinner at a certain time. We'll wake up at a certain time. I'll do all these. We'll have a list of things that need to be done around the house. You know so I find that. Keeping that routine has been super helpful for me And especially just create a sense of normalcy like okay. My job is now to maintain this house. My job is now to cook food. My job is to go on this walk at the certain time. My job is to tape this podcast. Right like to have everything structured out. And I'm I'm the type person I need to have my entire day scheduled. So I found that to create a sense of a little bit of normalcy. I will ask though How's the cookie been going and when I asked that specifically how is suzy? Fox's cooking been going say no you don't do very much yeah I do very little but I I I can buy. I get by with the canned foods and breakfast breakfast. I can can't get some. I can make pancakes and stuff like that but certainly not from scratch from the mix that you buy but now it's Suzy's Ben very busy. Obviously we're trying to order a in to some more local as much as possible. Yup But certainly I think susie is cooking. We had while her regular meat sauce last night for Spaghetti. We have some Tony with meat sauce on it was through the roof outstanding. So that's I mean our friends as you know most of our friends we zoom meetings. We had You're on the zoom. Now I did my first one last night as eared. So we've had we've had dinner with Freddie and an just susie and I zoom meeting with with the bigger group from the Legion Redondo. We've had a beer tasting a tequila tasting. Actually tonight is a SAKU TASTING. And we. Obviously we try to order the food from local restaurants. That hair with what we're doing there aren't coming up. Saturday. We have a barbecue on zoom. But I'm not sure what the pairing is going to be whether it might be a line or another beer or something like that so just trying to stay in touch with many people as possible and that's trying to Yeah as difficult as you get older at soons. Many people have told me that before. I am finding it very difficult but Susan. I are trying to learn Spanish. No Yeah Up. We're doing the dual ingle and we're also doing the babble and one we find easier to introduce yourself into the language learning a little bit easier than the other one. We're going back and forth. I'm finding very difficult because I think I have. A you know somewhat pretty good understanding of words nouns. I don't look at how to conjugate the verbs or a whole different thing and some of the verbs which you think and I was finding because you know restaurant. Language is Italian and French French certain other areas. I really could get by and there's no there's a similarity between Spanish and Italian even French through word soon but I find myself going to the Italian as opposed to going to the Spanish so I'm not bilingual in Italian. I'm not but now getting mixed up with four languages and so two so. I think that's where I'm struggling the most. But they're trying to stay with it getting at least a half an hour a day at least minimal minimum the half hour. Who knows a couple of months? Hopefully it'll be the case keeping yourself. Busy is is big all right. How about we dive in? Let's get this from the Tomas Sandstrom. Podcast law in Playa Vista cover. Was it Thomas or Tomas. Sandstrom he goes from. I'd go to mosh. That's what but but I think he was. Thomas mostly I saw the north. American is eight of 'em end where you broadcasting from today Jim. I am broadcasting from the Roman Volk. Hot Yes rolling VOLPATO MOBILE STUDIOS. Because I can move this around a little bit but Beautiful Redondo Beach. California go are just a beautiful day today. It is clear and warming up and not only for the weather. Let's hope that warmth helps us in other areas that were being surrounded by right now. I'm definitely going out for a walk again this afternoon. We got some fun things to talk about this week. first things first over the weekend The rear on Fox Sports West For the ninety three Campbell Conference Final Games. Six and seven Which you were very much a part of that broadcast Jim We'll get to that in just a bit but we Last week we started kind of on the season pause awards and where things are right now and I want to pick up on that and see where we're at in terms of the League wide awards. We've got masterton. Jack Adams called her and heart that we haven't covered yet and I WANNA also get once we're done with those a limit on bounceback player of the year not a masterton trophy nominee per se. But a player who you think could have had a good year after having a terrible year last year. So I let let's start things off here. Why don't we want we start things off right there bounceback player of the year? And I don't know if you've had too much like thought put into this because I know I- scrambling around Thinking of a nominee cause I kick this idea around and you know the guy that came to mind for me. Was JAKE ALUM SEAT LOUIS BLUES? When win the Stanley Cup on the back of Jordan Bennington? And there's Jake Allen who is persona non grata in Saint Louis and this year. I looked at his numbers. Twenty one wins a two point one five goals against the nine twenty seven save percentage. He's not the number one goalie there anymore. But he's put in some really good work this season. Yeah and it's probably the best example that we've seen in a while when you get labeled the number one guy sometimes. It's a mental adjustment. The guy and it's happened throughout his career. Right Elliott used to be there and they were going back and forth and Jake Allen was supposed to be the guy when half a season some years. He then he'd be the number one guy wouldn't work when work back to Elliott. I think the same things going on with Bennington right now but the very interesting Jake Allen. Yeah numbers cash. You cannot argue with those numbers. Wow I got a couple of times. I know we discussed this before. I don't prepare for the PODCASTS. Normally but because we're doing awards I did take Luxeuil. Names came up first of all logical Petar. Young men sixty sixty points in eighty one games last year. Sixty two already this year. Savigny William The lander of course had the off year because of the contract dispute bounces back this year match pets already. I mean just numbers are way better already this year than finished the entire but the guy that stands out to me. Jt Miller Vancouver canucks. Oh Yeah and especially because the change of scenery was huge huge. The role change was there when he was in Tampa. He had the skill but he was pushed down as far as what he was expected to offensively and then settled into a role playing rule now he is Vancouver top six top-three numbers through the roof Taking advantage of the situation I liked that. Pick J. T. Miller and it's kind of unfortunate how the injury Jacob Marcher might knock them out of the playoffs although now that the season's paused and who knows if they're going to resume ethically I might be bringing that name back. Mr Mario Yeah Mark. You bring it back in this podcast. Ooh Okay. I liked that. I liked that a JT. Miller that's that's kind of off the board pick. What about masterton trophy? You got any Good nominees from that. Well that's why I'm bringing back Mr Markham at because of we're pretty to the connects right. Same Division we play them quite a bit. I mean Thatcher Tempos tickle and I think he was supposed to take over this year had a couple of years. He's been there he's it's not like he's dropped off the face of the earth but I think he became the pillar of strength this year for the Vancouver canucks and I know he got hurt later on like you mentioned. Maybe you'll have a chance to if there was a resumption of the season but I just like what he's done overall and then I'm going to a name that you he falls into others it to me. This is kind of a lifetime. Achievement year after year after year. She plays hard and you pays for so he gets injured. Knee always bounces back. And that's Sidney crosby. I mean he's gone through that I know I know he hasn't had the concussion issues of late so I'm just going every year. He seems to again because the way he plays. He has to fight through some type of medical issue and this year was no different and his team picks them up while he's out but then he comes back and he picks up like like nothing. It's just kind of that overall long-term picture for me of how he is you know. He's a true superstar but he certainly has the blue collar seem ethic and he'll never lose that and that's why you know the perseverance sportsmanship type stuff. It's not for me that's great. I wouldn't have thought of that but now now you explain. It makes perfect sense. I mean here's a guy who's who's has enormous pressure to come back and produce as soon as he comes back and he goes and does it. That's that's overcoming adversity. I I got to here. And the first one is just I think They're both following a similar theme of Long. Lay Offs. A Long Injury Rehab Stephen Johns in Dallas missed a year and a half with concussion issues. The Guy who is a really good college player and became a solid role player for them finally returns to the lineup. I think scored either in his debut or or the second game back after his season debut but along those same lines. I'm wondering if it's too much of a stretch. Even though the sample size is small Gable Artie. Here's a guy who I personally and this is no disrespect to Gabe. I personally wrote off the idea that we would see gable already in Kings Jersey this year or even next year I just thought oh chronic back issues like. It's so hard to recover from that. Are we ever going to see him? Play not only does he comments on Tarot and have a great start to the year he then gets called up to the King Score. Ten seconds in his debut and immediately seems like he fits. It doesn't seem out of place as a rookie on this team. I was blown away and it goes to show. Don't give up on anybody because he worked hard to get back to playing shape. Nhl Playing shape. He's mentioned how he's worked also on his mental makeup. I mean he had to. He had to work on that. Otherwise in the know. Just listening to Tom. Mclaughlin the other day on this conference call. It was interesting because I think he seeing what we're seeing. You talked about Mike Anderson. First and then he talked about personality and he brought up Gable. Already there you can kind of see that if Gabe gets to a position news on ice game I could see him being a real leader. I don't see him. No the quiet. The role player leader type that Mike Anderson is and you can really feel that strength but if he gets to a position where he is a impact player then I can see a very engaging personality that will come out even more. So you're right. That's that's a great one. I just the only thing that I could see the same Stephen John's right. You know just number of games played to the point depending on how the but I think both in in a similar vein have earned that in. I'd say for Gabe You know there are so many fans when he was picked who hailed him as the savior for the franchise at the end of the day. You know he's still what a teenager when he was picked and this year is still only twenty. So there's a long way to go yet especially given the stage that the La Kings are at I think having him back is just. It's huge in so many ways. How about how about Jack Adams Award? This is one where I think. We've diverged a little bit in the past on what we value some curious to hear your answer. I well. I'm going to start off the top three. I'm GONNA go quick. My third choice is Bruce Cassidy up because I think the Boston bruins although they have the perfection line. I don't look through their lineup. And say this is a star studded group of players. I really don't and I think Bruce gets the most of them. I think he's too to a big extent. Maybe taken the reins and loosen them a little bit. My second choice is Dave Tippett second place guy again. The improvement goals against which is coach related the improvement in especially teams. Both powerplant Pelliccioli. Gone through the roof now. Does the APP through the best players in the world to work with. Yes but I get the presence and message sent and received the Edmonton oilers now. Because then the first one for me. It's something that coming into the season. His team was devastated because of defections. Then it gets into the season and it gets devastated with the injury so I think you know where I'm going next. John Tortorella again coming in just because of the players that left last year I really did not think at all. There was a playoff hope for the Columbus Blue Jackets. I knew they'd be hardworking. I knew they'd be structured because Torella. I think John has found a way like he always seems to to make the most of that team. Yeah whether they would have made the playoffs or not out right now. We're on that now. We're on the holding position. But he's my number choice so we've got two out of three. That are the same. But I'M GONNA go in a different direction I like to pick with Dave Tippett And you've mentioned this to me in the past that you know the biggest area were coach can have influence on team special teams and you think about how awful awful. Edmonson special teams were In the past Dave Tippett has come in and made them much much better both penalty kill and power play utilizing the the skill that they have with their forwards on the power play. Especially I agree with you on John. Tortorella and the number of injuries they had. I think you know the whole idea of motivating a team. I remember early in the year. There was a little bit of a debate on whether he was using the right tact. And saying okay. All of you guys are loyal. The guys who didn't stick around weren't loyal. You guys are loyal here and were your you need to. We need a reward. That loyalty right. I'm going to go in a different direction for my actual pick and it's Paul Maurice for some of the same reasons you gave John Tortorella home. Maurice dealt with the dust in buffalo in issue of not being available when we were talking about this last podcast with with GM's but I think with Paul Maurice. Not only did he have to shuffle the deck on the Blue Line. He dealt with injuries. During the season he dealt with almost entirely new defensive core and I think has been handling that exceedingly well You know the whole issue with how to balance the ice time with Patrick Line. A and his fits and starts As a goalscoring forward. I like what Paul Merson. Every time we go to Winnipeg and we hear from Paul he has such incisive answers to questions of. Why did you make this lineup choice? Why did you do this? Why did you do that? And he's so thoughtful with all that and maybe that's nee making my pick a little bit biased. Because I love his answers to that. But that'd be my choice in Paul Maurice over John Tortorella just because of where Winnipeg was from a roster standpoint that would be my pick. Sounds good to me question all right. Let's go to call the trophy. This might be a little bit more cut and dry I'll give mine here it. So the three guys I have nominated dominant coup Bali who came out of Obscurity and I know kings fans are not thrilled with this because he's a former seventh round pick for the Kings but at the time who knew and the fact that he's he was in Europe for so long went unnoticed but clearly the blackhawks picked up on him and he's he's become thirty goal scorer in his rookie season in the NHL all credit to him right number. Two for me is Quinn Hughes. I think he was a topmost. Calder trophy leaderboards. Most of the year. But I don't get the sense that he is as important to his team at this very point in time as my pick for the call trophy and that's Kale Macara. Even though he was hurt to finish That stretch of the season before the pause. I get the sense that Kale is so important to the avalanche right now on the back end and he's risen to that challenge. I think he he's displaying characteristics. That he's going to be their number-one defensemen for a long period of time. Let me think while two three eight has so. That's not my two or three. I go with Adam Fox for the obvious. Regents as my third choice for his. You share the last name. Sure exactly so that makes it easy. You know what I just love with the Rangers of dawn with the style of. Why and you know. He's the type of player that makes things happen. Probably makes a lot of mistakes but he makes it happen renews is number two for me. His ability to escape on top of the Ice Bicol. It ray gets done that way so light on his skates making it happen. I still like anyone of his age and size will get better defensively. Kill the car to me at at. What the numbers are close to meet is not close and this is obviously no disrespect. If you're in the jury mention trophy conversation you're highly respected but kill. Mccartney is he is. I mean he's borderline Norstrom to me. I mean he's not here yet I think he is. Let me say up. Maybe using a little exaggeration by far the best rookie of their he can control his skating. Skill is so dynamic that he can take over again. I like that pick for obvious reasons. 'cause I chose him but I just when we saw him Was was before he got hurt is the second time we we were facing the avalanche and just every time he touched the puck. You're holding your breath because you knew something bad could happen to your team When when he was playing the PUCK And just because he's so mobile you have a hard time keeping track of them on the ice. Because he's just circle he can circle in zone and just lose guys every which way it's incredible. He has a combination which is tough to come by because it's almost oxymoronic. But he has a grace to his skating style a fluidity but then he also has a power. And that's that's tough to come by in a relatively. I mean he's I wouldn't say the most physical guy and he's not the biggest defense out there but that's the that's the new defenseman in the NHL. Quinn uses the same bill. Basically they're both smaller. Speedy skilled can play the position. But it's it's a positional based thing that's almost seems to be the evolution of a defense in the NHL Right now. It's you need your your need size. No doubt but your number one guy doesn't have to be big right now not any more. That's for sure I think macarthur when he gets into close range contact with players or when he's angling players off because I believe his the power that he brings to the skating stride. There's you know he doesn't have to make contact. I don't think I've ever seen beat. I mean because if he does get beat he can readjust one second. Be Back in position in a straight line race. I wonder who would win. Connor mcdavid I WANNA see Kale Macara at the next Game the fastest skater. Keep up all right hart trophy. I'm leaving it to you. Jim You pick. I three selections again third-place Victor Heddon. He's right on the borderline of Norris trophy but I just feel that his team getting value is a difficult thing to define but his team did need more skill. You still bring his team needed something else. And I thought he started to be a little bit more sandpaper More physical a little bit more in ordinary. That's what they needed number two Leon Rice idle. And it's tough to let a lot of people could argue while he's either the best forward or maybe the second best in the if that's the case he has the best or second best on his own team. So how can they? I just think when mcdavid went down which was a short period of time. The dry style kept his team afloat. And that's where that value comes in again and then for my pick for the Hart Trophy and it is based on skill production but to me this. There's a nuance here. There is an intangible here that he turned on his team. And that is our Terry Narran York Rangers. I think he has given life and hope to a group of players and it was a bad job at the end of the season. But but I didn't plan is the. He is the the ignition point for that group. Are you a believer that you have to be a playoff team? In order for order to be eligible for the Hart trophy is that a I mean. Obviously you pick here but is that a nonstarter for you. In most years. It is a huge priority. Jimmy huge that the team has to be in the play offs huge having said that I think again the intangibles that PN earn his brought to group he has. I believe made them believe that to me. That's so yes most I. That's how far I believe. He has taken that group. Because I really do. Put a high emphasis on being a playoff thing. I love watching the Rangers play and I know you hate this description but they seem like they are a hard working team and I know the Kings are kind of getting to that point where they just you know that no matter what they were GonNa keep coming at you. I think the Rangers are kind of that where the kings want to be with this group. It's a younger group that the kings have But I think that's kind of direction they want to go and we saw glimpses of that Even early in the year they they were making mistakes frequently in Games. They would just they would not go away But not to get too far sidetrack. I'm going to give you my three picks for the Hart Trophy so number. Three for me is David Posture. Knock I think one of the illegal scores in the NHL That to me is a huge value in In in selecting this award is is who is contributing. Most all right. Well if you're putting the puck in the back of the net you're doing it and on a playoff team number two for me as Nathan MacKinnon. Same kind of dynamic a game changer. Game-breaker But I got to pick Leon Dry Seidel at the top especially given how Edmonson went through a stretch where Connor mcdavid was out and dry seidel how to carry the load and in years past dry. Seidel could not find a way to do it. Buddies leading in points and seemingly is no longer attached at the hip to Connor mcdavid in order to have success that he's been able to handle it on his own. I think that's taken edmonds into the next level with dry seidel being able to handle that pressure on my team. Yeah all right. Let's move on here over the weekend. If you're watching Fox sports west you got an absolute treat. You got to see game. Six in game seven of one of the best playoff series in. Nhl History. Never mind an LA kings history. The nineteen ninety-three Campbell conference final The kings overcoming a three games to do deficit To beat the Toronto Maple leafs in order to advance to the Stanley Cup. Final where they would later. Face the Montreal Canadiens what was as much of a treat for me watching that series kind of in detail for the first time I had seen highlights and I'd seen a lot of videos of it but watching the entire game telecasts from start to finish and seeing a much younger Jim Fox As a part of the proceedings not only with the commentary in game but in the Locker Room Gym. And what was your experience? I first of all that that series. You got to experience firsthand. You're just a couple of years removed from playing. You were so close with so many of these guys. What was it like to take that ride all the way to the Stanley Cup final? Yeah no I I think the first thing it certainly comes to mind is this. I was still close to my playing career so especially like doing. Post game interviews. I played with half of the guys. Mid Half of them were my teammates. I don't know if it was half but certainly a large enough chunk. Those guys were I played with so that made it a special. I think now that I've done this broadcasting thing for a few years you need a separation I really do. I think if you WANNA be if you want to be as objective as possible. But they're still that that made it special. Because I was just happy for those spices. You you're trying to show it though. That was the funniest thing that you were. You were trying to be super serious almost objective and luke and Dave Taylor were just like they were in having it at all but I remember the question asked to Lucan. I don't remember. I saw the other night watching the and it all it was about how he was taking flack for not going. But it didn't like to me when I watched back. It seemed like a hard hitting question. locker room where team had just one game seven on the road and should be a celebration but thinking back on it. I could. I could ask that question loop because you know what just about every day in that series I was talking to him and he was saying how care. I don't care about no. We're winning so because I had that report. Ara You know and that made its so much so much better just the whole berry. Mellow always had a lot to do with that team. Because much like we were talking about artillery There are some intangible elements that no berry came aboard. And he was the positive thinking guy had all these gurus but they bought him. If there's an example keeping my all four semi final teams that finished third division during the regular season. So you didn't have the top notch. Berry had away a great example of the salesman position of a head coach. You got to sell it. By the kings the IT seemed like the the theme that came up over and over on the broadcast was positively. That Berry was such a positive guy and everybody carried themselves in that way like Kelly Rudy. Obviously it was a you know a big moment in his post game interview. They just won the game but he said over and over and over. We have such a positive outlook as a team. Your there was a lot of. They had to go through that again. It wasn't they weren't acting. They believed buried because of the kings playing all Canadian teams. That year I mean hockey night in Canada comes in every series. They are the neutral objective. Bubble SPE were not. They were cheering for the Canadian. Teams kings ended up beating all of course chef until the end against Montreal but Berry did a great job there to of using that as a motivational tactic something. The guys could hang their hat. Mostly Canadian players going back to Canada. Their team being picked on by the media and bury US perfectly to get. You know. You don't need motivation. But you know what any any little bit helps? The other part of to You know just hearing from some of these guys it seemed like the personalities in that room all were kind of a perfect match for one other You had a guy like Wayne who is so even Keel But everybody else kind of mixed and matched in really complementary ways. It seemed like a fun group at the end of the day. The mix was perfect and again. That's every team striving for that. You're looking I. Don't think the manufacturer chemistry just has to happen in that group. I mean Mardi earlier that trial series getting scraps with women will Clark Them Clark. Pop them his. I was basically you know in bother him. Jim watters gets hit in the face with a puck. I believe in his his gums and teeth. And everything all cut up. You know I just go out there and you play the next just a lot of sacrifice launch sacrifice. Yeah Fun team fund run. I'm glad I had a chance to to watch those those broadcasts from start to finish. We even saw billy McDonald the cameo billing back. What a guy. I'm so glad that I've had a chance to get the NOBILI MAC over the last couple years But Yeah I. I hope that. There's more classics on Fox Sports West. I don't have a direct line of the programming department there but I'm hoping they've got some stuff in the works because I'd love to see A couple of other you know playoff series runs two thousand one The run the and the series win against Detroit. I'd love to see that from start to finish Mfl obviously the more recent stuff. I think everybody's either seen on youtube or you live through it right but I love to go back and see some of the older stuff. It's kind of fun to go back and not only to to watch the Games but I'm a TV nerd. And I love to just go. See the relics like graphics. And the hair and the microphones and all that. That's that just makes me smile seeing all those things the moment that staple center established its identity because when staple center was built on a number of the articles. It's too nice it's yeah it's so pristine when Adam detmar scored in overtime. That place blew its lid the nats the night. It became a sports fan. You Y- I'd love to see that again from start to finish what he say. We get some listener questions here. And then we'll wrap things up earth burke right so We had a couple from The last time I solicited and I'll go back to those At puck follower asks does Bailey's drum affect you when calling games at Staples Center Ole when he makes a trip to our booth standing right behind? Does that done at the time? I get distracted by it. Occasionally when he's like two or three sections over from where we are. And then it's Kinda loud is we have Not only our microphones but we have these Shotgun mics. I think there are Next to our booth that tried to pick up the ambient sound and it picks up the drum really really well and I like to have the crowd. Noise turned up in my ears so I can't really loud. That's the only time that it kind of affects me. Otherwise just part of the background noise in the stadium. Yup Barely daily goes to kings games. Like oh all right. Let me see here. What else do we have? What in your view this from John? What in your view is the most likely and realistic way to complete this season? Most realistic to me would be to start up again in July and get right to the playoffs. I'm not sure if you can do playing games. I would be in favor of taking it. Back to the lowest common number of games played then go on winning percentage at that time. I don't I don't know a full sixteen will be involved. I could see it being done in one or two arenas and bring multiple teams into that arena or arenas to do that type of thing. We've chatted about it before I do think I I really I know these are. These are times that we've never ever experienced before so I think we have to accept the fact that sometimes the resolution is not going to be exact perfect. I could see it even not think about relief can see even just to get the final four teams and you just play up to an east to in the West and then you have a final. I could see at that abbreviated but to me. I would say July first startup which means the players would have to be back in skating as group mid-june to give them two weeks of preparation to go ahead and do that. That's that's what I see Israel to on a personal sense. I would love to see a full season. I know Connor mcdavid was talking about this the other day that a hockey season needs to be a complete season. I agree with you. These are unprecedented times from a mental standpoint. I actually as an aside. I from the moment the things shutdown went into offseason mode. This is the off-season whenever we pick up. We pick up the this for now. Is the off season. I would actually hate to be in the spot of a playoff team or even a bubble playoff team and not knowing what's going to happen and you're just thinking about what might happen. What format they can use. Are we going to be? Are we going to be out We're actually in a somewhat comfortable position knowing that all right if they finish up the regular season or I will twelve games and that'll be that if they don't do a regular season all right well off until October November whenever they start up again and it's all gravy at that point. I would hate to be as as strange as it sounds. I would hate to be in the position of You know a playoff team or a borderline playoff team and you're wondering whether all the work you did the season is going to be for naught. I I think in our sense we already know the outcome right. And we wound. The only thing wondering about is the draft lottery. So if I'm going to be a pessimist onto October it's onto November's onto next season. I'm not even thinking about the Stanley Cup. Even though the League really wants to award it but I'm with you. They'll find some way in if they can to do it because they want. That's step one and then they wanNA play full next season. At least yeah. Everything's up in the air I would. I would bottom line it here. If they don't know by June I think the whole season is in jeopardy but I think if they do know if they have medical clearance so to speak scientific clearance on June first then I think again. Two weeks of play downs get ready or a week to get everyone back into the country that type of stuff then two weeks of skating so again. You're starting July first of. That's that's the only if they don't know June first then I see maybe enough. Yeah and you know what the the thing to watch because the NHL is notoriously tight-lip with this sort of stuff. Even though I think sportscenter denigrate job with keeping Everybody informed on you know where the League stands keep an eye on the NBA because the NBA is. Hell bent on having something happened to to complete their season in some way. And there's a lot more money at stake for that league than the NHL At this moment. So I would keep an eye on what the NBA does and I think the NHL would try to follow suit because they don't want to have You know the same seasonal league do one thing and then they don't do something themselves so I would keep an eye on the NBA How about this one from Michael who asks? What's your favorite board game? Well back in the day it would have been trivial pursuit so attributed guy yeah. It was a Geek nerd. I used to read encyclopedias growing up so we drove home. Suzanne I ONE TIME FROM LA to Canada so basically four three and a half four days and suzy basically read to me the trivial pursuit cards. On the way Sean. That was Not Not that would be. I mean all played monopoly all type of stuff but to me it would be trivial pursuit. All right so for me me and my wife have been incredibly competitive scrabble. Since this whole thing. Yeah once or twice a day usually after dinner and usually with a couple of glasses of wine already down and it gets pretty hyper competitive and the there have been threats of physical violence So I will say that's been fun for us The the other thing we've played recently we played clue With a couple of friends kind of before. This got really serious and Recently the two of US played monopoly so but I put scrabble at the top of the list. That's a really good competitive game. You're keeping score And the standings right now I'm up by two in the In the containment Corentin standings all right. Here's from Carlin. Bathe were sidelined for Fox sports west and she wants to know what's one thing that has surprised you from this unexpected downtime. A reaction or discovery. You didn't expect to have and kind of in a positive way. I'm not frozen right now in Greece thinking. That's not very difficult store about this. I'll start the House has never been more organized than it is right now. I've also rediscovered cooking on my own because usually we're so busy and we're on the road so long that I you know. Just go to trader Joe's and get their pre prepared meals and them in a microwave and that's dinner and occasionally like once a month talking about cook something for myself in season but now we're doing it every other night pretty much You know yeah. We're still trying to support local restaurants and we'll get takeout from them. But I'm rediscovered cooking a little bit in fact for lunch today had leftover Taco meat from last night we were doing a Taco Tuesday virtually on zoom and I made cases these for lunch. When would I ever be doing that? So I've enjoyed that and I've been enjoying Kind of getting outside on a regular basis and started biking against things that you wouldn't have had time to do before And you're taking a moment to kind of appreciate where you're at in Taking care of errands or things around the house. You didn't have time to do before just spending time with loved ones. You didn't have a chance to do much before Those those things that I'm appreciative through this I have one. That's that's on the mind of everyone and that is how much more I think. Deeply into how important the delivery guys. Our truck drivers are risk free storm. Yeah Yup now note week we forget. Our doctors nurses by policemen. Those first responders are always there at night. I'm going that that deeper layer of the people that keep our daily lives running even like just the garbage men coming by. It's not like they're in contact with a lot of people but they're working a full day. They're going up down streets through touching stuff that people know thrown out so just just that deeper appreciation again. Just giving thought into okay. The Guy drives a truck. Here goes into the back. He picks up an object. He carries it to your door right now. They're not really asking for signatures. They're just they're putting themselves in grocery stores. You're walking around. You're trying to do the social distancing then you get to checkout. They usually have one person there helping out and that person is probably coming into contact with two three hundred people a day so that type of thing just more on completely positive is just the walks that were taking right now and then walking around my neighborhood here in Redondo beach and seeing how darn nice it has. I mean I've just I've taken for granted. How beautiful this area is in the houses in lots of the makeup and the differences so just walking around neighborhood. Maybe getting an appreciation for that. I mean obviously like where they have. I mean we chose this place but didn't didn't realize or maybe forgot Nice. It really is. That's well said And I think the Walvis everybody is going gain an appreciation for You know just how lucky we are to be in this In this professional hockey world I mean everybody is going to take a hit. Everybody is going to be impacted by this but the at the end of the day we will get through it. It will take some time it will take some work and it may take a little bit of patience but we will get through it And I I know for certain we will come out the better On the other side and we will be okay with it on that note. I think we'll wrap up here. We do have a lot more still to get to the next couple of weeks. I want to To hit on because we would be hitting the end of the regular season in the draft lottery would be coming up as previously scheduled. We haven't interviewed backed with Mark Masters of tsn That will be playing for you in the next couple of weeks where we talk a lot about prospects especially since he was able to cover of the World Juniors for several years and we will talk about the kings names to watch in the future and probably put the season in perspective as going along but the other tree that we have as I'm rapping ear is we will be doing a a broadcast play by play of King's King Stars baileys had the whole Twitch simulation going through. Ea Sports. We're going to be doing that for you This weekend including fan appreciation night Saturday night. So look out for that. It's something that Jim and I are looking forward to To calling very much so Jim I'm for that and we'll see in the next couple of days great job. Thanks very much appreciate it. Thanks for listening. Everybody see you next time

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On The New Normal

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On The New Normal

"You're listening to an la kings podcast for more episodes of this and every other kings program visit la kings dot com slash podcast. The into the anderson pitches since back for the cu waiting shooting these stores restrain. Start the season happen. It is episode two of our second season and we are in season. We're playing hockey since we last spoke to you. The national hockey league is gone through an entire week of games. And yeah we've had. Some games postponed a few covert issues. But by and large made a weekend and honestly. I don't feel like the talk around. The league is who boy you know. We're we're in trouble protocols. Aren't working like it. Seems like for the most part. Jim that we're gonna have a season here. I got through this. Yeah you know. It's something that as i've mentioned previously just the document that was created with the protocols to me is so impressive. How many people were were brought in to discuss. Go over and use the the science and medical knowledge just to try to get practice possible Then we've been around during grainger with the kings Chris kingsley the kings and their staffs of course in just to see the attention to detail. Having said that when we know what's going to happen we know there's going to be postponements. We know it's going to be there. But i just it. Isn't it up to the individual like most right. It's up to the individual to to lower the risk as much as possible. Yeah hey. I'm fully expecting and this is not to disparage anybody on a team. I'm fully expecting. We'll get caught up in some sort of either covert issue or spa. It's just it's inevitable and if you walk into it without expectation then it feels a little bit less crazy when it does happen. 'cause face the kings haven't been on the road yet as this taping they will be over the weekend saint louis in minnesota but man I look at. I look at the way the schedule works out with travel and i i have. I'm i'm cautiously optimistic. That will will get through this thing without any trouble Or at least relatively speaking. We're calling games at an empty building. We had an opening night. That was quiet in different. And yet when i put the headset on it still hockey in. I don't know what was your impression calling the game in an empty building for the last three games. I think the point that you just made probably covers it for me and that is at least during the action when you have a headset on you know on listening to you. I'm hearing myself. I'm hearing the producer of the director on hearing a whole bunch of people going on eight people. Ask me many times during normal situation. Did you see that thing that was on the the jumbotron scoreboard with no. I didn't see it. You know you're so wrapped up in what you're doing and i think the headset does make a difference so there during the play. There's not as much difference to me at all because i'm following a play unintentionally listening. I'm getting replaced. Ready getting communication with the truck back and forth talking with so many different people. There's a lot of things that go on that. Probably people don't even know they're going on and it does take away from your concentration at time or at least your focus point sometimes where it should be But you know once they're stoppages intermissions. Yes when we go our little walk in the concourse and there's nobody there to be seen You know that interaction you get a chance to talk to fans people you've seen for years and years and years or just people you're meeting for the first time that that's where i noticed the biggest difference during the game not so much yeah. I think it's the the intermission. The pregame buildup is weird. And i like doing this like we will from a studio this coming weekend. Which again i. I'm curious to see how it'll go but that was the experience. I think we both had over the summer. Is that you know. Ninety minutes before puck. Drop sixty minutes before puck. Drop thirty minutes before you just. You don't get that adrenaline building. It's the buildup is not the same to puck drop and when we have the the anthem and the player introductions were ready to go and the game feels normal. That's at least to me. The thing that i've been struck by in the first week or so. But i actually think that of all the sports that have to do this. That have to play in front of an empty building. Hockey's actually probably for it because there are very few stoppages relatively speaking The crowd in the run of play up until a goal is scored up. Until there's a you know a scoring chance or some sort of frenzy of of some kind. I feel like is quiet for the most part in there watching the game like you go go to montreal right and during play. It's really quiet in the building. And nobody's having conversation to me as i'm as i'm watching back the game for the first week. Even separating from the artificial crowd noise that's that's pumped in the background. It doesn't sound like they're in this hollow building with no people in it it actually sounds somewhat normal just really. The biggest adjustment for me is my routine leading up to the game. In the past we would get. I would get through staple center at approximately. Let's say three thirty. We would have for seven thirty game for seven thirty game. Approximate time of our production meeting four thirty four forty five that goes until about five fifteen go to the press lounge eat chatted with a few people. Go up to the booth literally that type of stuff now. I'm getting to the game from what we've been playing seven o'clock games. I'm getting their rate around five. Pm my prep is already been done at home. Our production meetings have already taken place via zoom after the kingsgate in the morning so by noon. Twelve thirty our production meetings. Our complete still have prep time. But doing all that prep time at at home eke at home before i get to the arena. Which is completely different again. No press lounge meals those types of things. So i think i'm in my own little ball just my own little circle right now more so than than the normal routine that would go through so i find the routine to me. It's more efficient in a lot of ways. We're not battling as much traffic. And that's just because traffic isn't quite at the level it is in l. a. You know like usually. When i for a seven thirty game i used to leave my house at three and i like. I wouldn't leave even any later. Get there at six thirty. Exactly right. 'cause like if i left at three fifteen i'd be stuck in a worse jam up on the one zero five and like it. Would i would get there at four. I leave at three. I get there three thirty fifteen minutes by leaving fifteen minutes earlier Now i'm leaving the house it now three thirty now. no later. I left at three forty five. I picked up the sandwich to go. Jersey mike's again. Like i'm i'm addicted to that place and i it. I drove in to We use a different parking garage than we have before. Because we have to be separate from the Hockey personnel even the p the ice crew a lot of whom are staff office staff of the kings. And everybody's kind of pitching in Like folks who work in marketing or hockey development or community relations or goebel partnerships like. Everybody is pitching in to try to make this thing work So we have to be separate from those people because they're test they're part of the the team's testing regimen and we are not because we are in that group three in the area separate from everybody else so we're parking garage. We go up to get covid. Test rapid tests done through fox sports net at the little table Behind the broadcast compound. I'm just sitting there in the parking garage on a chair eating my sandwich. That's my pressing meal. I walk in. I don't know for thirty four forty five. I used to go into the tv truck before every game. I don't do that now. I wanna limit my interactions there. But i'm with you. It's in some ways. It's more efficient because not spending much time in traffic. I'm not worried about You know production meeting a certain time we get that done in the morning. Like i maintain that there are things and this is beyond work right beyond the the job calling. The game maintained that there are things that we can take from our daily lives that we will adopt when the pandemic has done and we will continue to do in pandemics done. I think changing up the routine might be part of it for me at least for you. The one thing i do miss is that ten fifteen twenty minutes after i normally eat at staple center before the game and then just interact with the other media to kind of bounce ideas around and you know maybe get a different perspective than you bring to the game which always helps you know for instance more specifically. Let's just say guy. Like like jesse cohen who throws out this weirdest weirdest weirdest idea. You never going to hear in your whole life and then you go well okay. Let me think about that and it gets it gets to the brain moving a little bit. Yeah and then the visiting team. You know the other broadcasters. I i had a phone call with mark. Moser does the tv for Altitude sports and that was nice to get just a quick phone call with him driving into staples center. And you know what's going on with the team what's different you know some lineup changes and it caught. You know there was a lineup thing. That i didn't have ready on my board. Okay sorted that out so in that sense. Yeah it's a little bit different. We may have been able to get that A little bit more detail and also just the opposing coach. Scrums like our usual home. Routine doesn't involve that with getting information from the road team too so weird that. The road team skates at toyota sportscenter. But on the rare occasions you know like last year. Pittsburgh was in town. And mike sullivan didn't extended media availability at toyota. Sports performance. center. And sidney crosby was down there. He didn't availability. And it's you get a little bit from even those interactions. It's small things it's nuance. But you do miss that the marco tell you that they're colorado's fast. He didn't tell me that. I found out in the first five minutes of that game. Yes that's a pretty good team. They have some good players on that team. That mckinnon guy can skate. a little. bit wasn't interesting. we talked about it during the game. Was how how player. Like trevor. More louis anderson because they can keep up even more so than carl moves on that line. They helped shift that game for the kings. They really did because Just the pace. They're able to play out again. Considered fourth line players. I know trevor moved up into third period for a few chefs. But you know that's that's where hopefully the kings are going nowhere overall team speed will get there but yet to match up against a team like colorado. You're probably going to be not as fast. Not as quick much can get up to their patient. And i mean it goes to show in this league could play with variety different styles and still have success in the kings did that last year when they'd kind of slowed down the colorado team and then beat him a couple times and even in the game on on tuesday. They did a little one weekend to the season. I don't know about you. i. I'm noticing that the the quality of play has been fine. Maybe a little bit of a dip like you know the preseason usually gets guys back into game rhythm and and flow and pace all that and somebody said I forget who it was in reference to both the east and the the north divisions. Because there's been so much parody like they've been series splits for the most part to begin the season that nobody has found their game fully quite yet. And it's kind of a mishmash and it's great because everybody's beating each other to start the season. You have no clarity in the standings a weekend like usually you figure out okay. Which team is good to start a year even a shortened season. We have zero clarity as to. What's going on to the beginning of the season at least out east st louis win. Four one loses eight nothing. Right rangers of devils had kind of a similar thing buffalo philadelphia. Just wax in any of the other team backed away is one thing i'm noticing i i obviously were limited in who were watching more so i think the goaltending has been okay and everyone kind of talks about that and rightly so regarding you know. The argument in baseball pitchers the batteries. Who take who takes longer to beginning season to get going and most people felt. It was goaltenders. I i haven't certainly. i'm saying i know cal peterson. After his first start mentioned the long shot which was a well. Setup shot power play traffic in front but how he struggled he didn't he saw the shot. He lost the pass in traffic. We just wear. The puck was moving in from what side to the other and traffic is one thing goaltenders always talk about and that was. That was very well. Put by cal game on on his discussion of how you just. Sometimes you're screened not at the shot but you're screened at the pass and that at that forces a whole scenario of dominoes to go into effect where he was not able to really pick up the shot but overall you know i think the goaltending has been fine. I noticed that type of rushed. I guess you would call it compared to the other players. Well i think again going back to the idea of what are we gonna take from this pandemic time and maybe apply going forward. I don't think we need five six. Preseason games i really. Don't i mean maybe one or two just for an example like that. Where okay goalie needs. you know. there's only so much you can do in practice where your own teammates are somewhat predictable. Yeah get to preseason games and be able to start one goalie one night one or the other night and have them play the whole game instead of swapping amid game or or something along those lines right. I i the idea that you need five or six and that you need what sixty guys or more at a training camp to me. All these teams were just fine coming out of training camp and the the waiver wires been a little bit more active than maybe a usual start to the season. But i don't know if i need you know three and a half weeks of training camp and sixty guys most of whom you know are never gonna make the team right. I think it's to me. It's the thing that comes to mind there and once again which which normally comes up in. A negative context is salary cap in the past without salary. Cap sixty guys at camp was okay because you know what you had five or six guys that you didn't know you need to get them into games. I'm gonna agree with you you now. You know ninety two percent of your team. What did you know ninety nine percent of your team because it's based on contracts and salary cap and that really can't ship that much so you don't need that audition time and that's that's a shift that perhaps the the league will adjust to. Yeah you know the one guy who i think. Benefited big time from A training camp or maybe the summer development camp Was alex i follow. Who was a relative unknown The summer of twenty seventeen and impressed the summer development camp and then came in and won the job on the top line. Now maybe through you know the the standard two and a half week process or maybe even just the process of you know maybe he would have had to wait in an environment like this and play in the h. L. the start. Maybe he would've won a job in training camp. I don't know with shorten roster but something tells me that these hockey guys they know in front office thing know what they're doing. They know how to identify talent. See a guy who's going to play at the nhl level and they like they're not fooled eye. Be hard pressed to find anybody who tell you with a straight face and maybe i'm just making an assumption here that you need three and a half weeks to evaluate whether a guy can make the team you know if we look to the people it would hurt the most. It would still be that young player. Look what you're talking about with follow so from the players association I'm sure the veteran guys would say we don't need the games the players would say. I just want that one extra shift to show that i can make that breakout pass or i can follow up play. I can do that in a game situation. Which is different than the practices. That coaches siemian inside story of give the coaches reasons to keep you on the roster and those are going to be eliminated with your preseason games but but overall and having said when i said about not the time to get that audition and salary cap kings for instance in a situation where they don't really have to worry about that as much as most teams because the cap is not a big issue right now. In where the kings are the stage there are as a franchise. Yeah i i'm i over aldo impressed by the quality of play. I think yeah there are some sleepy moments and maybe the first period of the first game. You're still feeling each other out a little bit. But he's are professionals And you know it's not like your fee. I i think if you were a situation like ottawa. Last year where they were fielding a team of mostly young players and a lot of whom were getting their first taste to the nhl. Yeah then maybe you need a little bit more. Preseason time but otherwise i mean. There hasn't been a team. That i maybe chicago right this year With the way that they've gone about their claws. I rebuild their like. That's the only team where am singer. Maybe they need a little bit more time but otherwise. I think these guys are professionals. I i have a couple storylines. I want to bounce off of you Just the first week of observation here watching games And out curious to hear what your first observations are from around the league. What sticks out to you. In terms of story lines First one for me is the waiver wire and I don't know if it'll ever be as fraud and exciting as it's been this year because of how the taxi squad are set up. We were asked for For season predictions for for fox sports west. and what. We're interested in watching this year. And i said the trade deadline Both for what the kings might do. But also you know what it might look like. How many players go to canada How many players get moved around this year at all. I i actually found it. Funny that that You know there was a situation. I'm sure it's not funny for troy but troy gross. Nick might be the shortest tenured goalie in la kings history and this is the same team that had yutaka fuca fujian goal. Gross nick was on the opening night. Roster and twenty four hours later he was claimed on waivers because of the way the taxi squad works. That's i still think. There are transactions every day on the waiver. Wire that in decent players to that are being around right now because of the way the roster situations workout and that's gonna continue for a while and i know that there's probably a lot of things we can look at and and criticize and go back and forth. But you know there is always the give and take that are needed to get these things done between the ownership and the players association and both sides look at things a little bit differently. And that's something that Shuffle out. In and i'm sure there's gonna be certain players that it's going to hurt and certain players it's going to benefit the one thing that sticks out to me. It's something i've talked about the past no big deal. I don't lose any sleep over it. But selection of postseason awards trophies. I've been a proponent in the past of at least having an mvp for each conference and then you know if you wanted to go ahead and select the final hart trophy winner go ahead but know maybe come up with different categories or names this year would be i think the proper year to have an mvp each division because you're only playing that division for the full not whether that stays around for future years maybe not in why would you just change it for one year but at least you know how am i. How am i gonna pick coach of the year. That that's one i get i. Yeah i will keep an eye on it. That leads me to my other point. Alex and again. it's not necessarily storylines. It's just again how it's affecting me. I really do find myself now. Only watching the honda west. That's that's that's who i watch now if there is a game on saturday or sunday afternoon and i'm working out y'all put it on the ipad and i'll watch it while i'm working out if it's an east coast game as fine but i'm finding myself just just looking for the honda west division games and that's it and i'm almost neglecting even more so than most years. The other divisions. I'm forcing myself to watch the east coast games. Just because i know that. If i if i'm just locked in on kind of where we're at in our universe that honestly it doesn't matter what happens any other divisions like we. We're not playing them. They're basically not even in the same league. But i'm with you. I you know every year. The nhl does unveil an all nhl team. It's it's not a big award But there is an all out team and there's an all rookie team I wouldn't mind if they had like an all division kind of thing and then league-wide you'd have an all rookie team. But i think that would actually be kind of nice. I mean finding sponsors for those. Hey you gotta pay the announcers. You were dropping. The division title sponsor name just casually there. It's it's i think i'm in the minority here but i feel that if there is a company out there that feels that the national hockey league is important to them as they feel that they will spend dollars with the national hockey league. Put their name and brand of certain aspects of our game. I'm all for i'm fine with All the extra advertising because most of it this year is not even to try to make money as a league to recoup money like when fans walk in the door at staples center and you see staples branding everywhere and you see toyota branding everywhere. He spectrum branding all the sponsors for the kings right. Will those eyeballs. Aren't there those impressions the amount of times. You're seeing that logo or some slogan or whatnot because it doesn't exist so you know when you see those virtually imposed ads on the ice or on the glass that some of them are sponsors. For the telecast directly on fox sports west some of them are make goods my understanding to the team so that those eyeballs get to see those logos and a lot of teams who were doing the helmet sponsors this year. It's not to make money. Nobody you know getting more cash. Like the The penguins ppg right. It's the sponsor of their arena. Or they're putting it on the helmet not to make more money. It's just we'll we'll people aren't entering the ppg arena anymore so now you've got to see it on the helmet every time and and luckily it seems like most partners around the league are are welcoming that idea that okay you know. We'll we'll use this as a make good this year and then we'll figure it out once things go back to normal for next season. I actually like how the kings and this is not. Just you know me talking. As a king's employees. I like that. They went in a different direction with their helmets. Sponsoring kind of attached to a cause or purpose with it and this one does have dollars attached to it. It's my understanding. The cal hope sponsorship on on the helmets for the kings To to encourage Mental health and the resources available from the state of california. Like trying to do something like that seems pretty good to attach kind of a meaning to it and a little bit more than just dump some corporate sponsor. We're slapping their logo on a helmet. Nice to me yeah. it's fine it's great. It's an nobel especially in our times now where that focused since probably needs to be focused on a little bit more than the normal and you do it that way but yeah let's get i'm not of course there's going to be a balance. You're looking for in striving for but logos on sweaters or coming. I'm not so sure. Oh they're coming. I just. I think gary bettman like all those get bill daily. All those guys are kind of a little a little guarded when it comes to that. Remember the playoffs expanded for the bubble and they've been adamant even though it probably could make them more. Tv money if they expanded to twenty or twenty four it could make more money and they've said adamantly at least gary has yeah. We're not doing it. That's more of a competitive nature issue. Mesnier changing the how the playoff teams were selected. And that's that's affecting the competition you know putting a shoulder patch on to me is not affecting the competition. Yeah i mean practice jerseys have them. I just know alex from tv. I remember back in the day when they started to put the score and time on. Oh yeah oh no. There's too much it's awful man. Oh man now you hear people wanna see more graphics. I can't get so no shots on goal and when when nbc shows up and they don't have the shots on goal coming off their scorebook shots on goal and there's an evolution process and change is always met with a little bit of hesitation usually but It takes a while to get used things. Sometimes things are weeded out because they don't work. Yeah but probably try it and see how it goes. Yeah it's it's weird like our earn existence. But we could bring back pictures of derek armstrong playing in europe. Oh my god billboard when we can tell we can use those listen the ice. at least it's still white because there are a lot of leagues in europe that like every single of the ice is sold and maybe that subsidizes the team enough to pay them their salaries but luckily for us. We're not in that predicament. At the moment we're not in that bad a shape. I know the league will have to make some money. But we're not in that bad of shape. We're all kind of clamoring to get fans back in the building. I actually saw a great idea in canada. I'm going to steal it from them. From the tim show on sports net. They had this great Proposal that before paid fans come back like ticket holders and whatnot that the first people in staple center should be vaccinated healthcare workers. And i'm just. Wow what a what a great idea like even for ten bucks a ticket like whatever the the minimum cost to get them in there And you think about it. Even in la there are a lot of vaccinated healthcare workers out there. Already i mean you've got thousands. Who would love to see a hockey game. I'm not even just hockey. The lakers clippers. Usc ucla anything. I mean and beyond that i would love the messaging. It would send to those who are hesitant to get a vaccine. Hey this could be you. You wanna enjoy live sports again. You wanna be with friends again. This could be you. And i like i understand their limitations and you gotta take precautions because there's still a lot we don't know you know maybe everybody wears asks you keep the numbers limited. You don't have to fill the building to capacity. Nobody's asking for a sellout crowd of nineteen thousand healthcare workers in the building And i saw over the summer. That staple center was the first arena to receive accreditation from the global bio risk advisory council and they certify buildings and processes that That are kind of at a high standard for cleaning and disinfection infectious disease prevention. And i don't know about you and and granted. It's a little bit different for us. Walking around an empty staple center. But i feel safe walking in the building. I feel safe using the restroom there. you know even just walking past some of the ushers insecurity like beyond the fact that we have a lot of space to work in a i feel like there's a lot of separation both from the tier two personnel to three or but like i don't interact with anyone to go call a game other than walking into the booth interacting with you and don our stage manager and very briefly with Utilities who helps out with that. So i like i know. There are a variety of health and safety concerns to be had. But if we truly believe that you know vaccines are the way out of this and that health of those who are vaccinated is Probably at a much much lower risk. I say why not You know if you can explore that possibility. I you know i'd love to know what the what the limitations are from reasonably safe perspective. But let's let's do it. Let's find a way 'cause just just saying no to me is just kind of giving up on the idea that that those who get a vaccine are just kind of waiting for everybody else to do it for another eight nine ten months without any sort of reward for not only the work that they've done healthcare professionals but also the the fact that you know they stepped up to something that was not mandated of them to get. And and now they are part of the cohort. That are going to get us out of this now. I think it will be one of the longer-lasting positives that will come out of this. And that will be. We've touched on this a few times in our discussions. Rico is just how the respect will increase and i think it it will be maintained for the people especially the health workers who put themselves they put them. So you talk about frontline. They're right there. I i know they have. Ppe and they've got you know they're all bundled up and everything but just you know going to work every day and knowing that you're going to be in contact with. I think all of us are going to have a better respect in one way to show. Respect is what you're talking about right. There was brought up in canada. His that's yeah. Let's let's separate those people and give them the do that. They deserve because they. It's elite. still out over. Yeah yeah more reward. All things considered right. It's it's a small gesture and there's also some logistics that are going to go on but it's it will be a learning process to for a building like staples center no doubt. How do you go from having nobody there. And where it's unsafe to have any fans in the building to welcoming people back. Why why don't we have a trial. Run here with people who we know to be kind of at at far far far. I'm not gonna say but much much much much lower risk of getting sick. And why can't we have this as a trial run and it was interesting to me. I've watched some of the videos regarding staple center and their preparation No the way like doorknobs or touch points are treated with solutions. Meaning like a chemical solution or actually the way they're even made the hardware is made to make sure that contagion are not able to stay on that surface. Now that's that's very interesting me. That's you know we we as a society. We were devastated by what's happening but there's also people that will come up with new ideas right. We gotta figure out a solution. Yeah you can't just the answer isn't just know forever. You gotta find salute. Even if it's not a perfect solution like we've got we gotta find something or we got to explore processes in a in a controlled environment. Everything sounds great but until you actually do it in person. There's no way of knowing whether it'll actually works so that that's just my two cents. That's my piece for you. Know going forward and getting people back in the bill because eventually we are going to have to do it and eventually somebody like you. Listening at home is going to have to take a risk of some point of some kind to come into the building right the first time you walk into that building. You are taking a risk now. It's much much much. Lower risk assuming you're vaccinated but nonetheless exists that's reality i want to pivot here and I want to take some listener questions. Because we haven't done that in a long long time. What are you say. We take some listener questions here. What I i asked this morning to see if we can get some here. Let's see i'm scrolling through a lot of kings related ones here Okay okay. Here's josh greenberg how's it been being back staples center What is your opinion i. Three games What needs to change with the team. I all even just add my own question. Of what do we think of of this. Version of the la kings in twenty twenty one It's the next step has been taken a and i read one of the questions earlier about timing meaning. Are the young players going to mature and evolve to a point where they're going to be able to add to a championship. Caliber team with the veteran. Guys still able to help. So co petar. Quick carter dowdy are those guys can brown. Are those going to still be around when the next wave. Is there so back to this season. Next step has been taken unless things dramatically shift. The moves have been made already so now. We can start concentrating on what's going on at fifty six game schedule three games. It's still too early as far as getting a read on what's happening the only thing to me. It didn't know the generation of quality offensive. Chances is an area that every team looks at more specifically with the kings going making that transition from a shot volume team which the kings were great at last year to a team. That may be gets less shots. But at the same time they're coming from a higher quality area the area which helps improve the finishing percentage. So that's that's an area. I'm continuing look at three games in. I have not. It happened third period against colorado game. Three but lashed the for check memory alex on the road especially kings dominated on the road for two periods. There were ever just dramatically playing and then but it was all based on four check and that just kind of slipped away so there is a transition period here where the kings are looking to get more danger on attack because of the uptempo higher skill players at the same time that forechecking part of game is never ever go away from the nhl it when you ask any player and coach before a game which the puck and deep to get her portugal. That's just one area. That i hope will balance out and become a little bit more efficient with kings. Where are we talking about last week. That tampa had to learn. I think part of that. You'll beyond the okay. We gotta get paul care. We gotta get tougher to play against but part of that was therefore check going. The bulkier player puts more priority and emphasis on more jack than a dancer does so then it by changing your personnel. You automatically change slightly. The poach approached the team's gonna take or it'll change. How effective the team will be. That's internal the players have to recognize that we can look from a high in the they have to realize that you know what instead of swooping for the puck here. I'm just gonna make contact and might not create a chance right now but it might help as the game goes along and you know so jason and the kings are kinda go right in all honesty the kings. They're trying to get more temple more pay. So that's probably why before check is you know maybe not at the at the point. They were like it to be. Yeah there were games of things calgary or the like they out outshot them like twenty two three and a period. I mean yeah shots on goal or not always inaccurate. I can tell you this needed. Yeah oh man were games just eyeball test alex. I haven't looked at numbers. Mikey henderson i think he is a solid in control. There were four checks colorado where he the pace you know. He has to adjust to that. But i'm just looking at his game and Eyeball test doling. I don't know what plus minus is right now. I don't know what his numbers are. Not looking at that. i'm just looking at. Can he be a part of a group going forward and after three games of this season. to me. It appears that he can be a big part of that. I had a note from It was the first three or four days of training camp and tom mclaughlin singled him out and said he had made the team and like very rare that a coach that early in a training camp even short as this one was would say for a specific player. Oh yeah he made the team. So that's a that's about as high compliment as you can guess when. You're a rookie. Even more than jim boxes eyeball test even more so remember. We're far away. It's always easier up there. It definitely tom. moody asks. Happy inauguration day which is when we're taping this when on the road is breakfast acceptable. All day have a good day to. You both haven't had a chance yet. Haven't had a chance yet to try the sausage mcmuffin i really. I've never had a friend of mine told me that this is. I've said it before on my deathbed if there was a big mac. I haven't had a big mac in thirty years on jamie but go thirty. I have not had a big mac. But if i were given the opportunity that would be my choice and maybe second is this sausage mcmuffin thing because i i haven't tasted yet. But i hear you need to. It's all crystals we're not on the road right now but And some. Although i think they backed off right now because of the difference. Who's coming up at. What time and but the not serving it all day long. But i can't wait for the time we start serving all day long. All the press law sausage mcmuffin. I think there's not doing select outlets. I stopped the other day. The reason i have not tried is because i stopped at two separate mcdonald's locations and they did not have after eleven o'clock we know the mcdonald's reps and soco we've met them at the sponsor meetings we gotta get on their case. That's it's we gotta we gotta get that going. I would say the well to to that end. Actually our favorite meal staples center in the in. The press room is the breakfast. I don't know about you at least for me. My my favorite meal. The staple center pressroom is the breakfast when we have like a one o'clock saturday game or something like that. We get breakfast as the press meal. And it's it is my favorite thing but you still have a bowl of ice cream for any meal that ends with ice cream with oreos crushed on top of it. Is that the thing you're most looking forward to. We can go. Inside the chick hearn. Pressroom again was the ice cream machine. I think that by far. Maybe the only thing. Don't listen to what. I said earlier about talking with all the various media cashiers enough now. It's the ice cream for breakfast. Mind you soft serve yes it is specifically the saucer vice green because we've gone over our power rankings of the ice cream then you get to russia's up venues you get to mush it up with the orioles and that's that's that's the key parties working because sometimes it doesn't like the coast big. They're not crushed in the dispenser. Doesn't work properly really grumpy. It's like the kings when the kings are executing the one three one perfectly clogging up the neutral zone that dispensary gets clogged up and it just prevents the attack of the oriole. The first time. I've heard that analogy. Here's one nickname for andrea ethnicity you. I've heard the the grease lightning one was from detroit. Feel like we're got to come up with something. Great freak mealy greek fr. Well let's take it yes. It is jaanus. Say that five times fast more letters but luckily when andrea came into the league. We all looked at his name. And of course. I'll butcher it now but once you have it in front of you and once you seem a couple times it's it rolls off the tongue pretty good. It's actually pretty easy. Yeah yeah the advice. I was given when i saw the ahl she played for the grand rapids griffins. When i was working in utica and it was nice to see. You athena ac- you. I try to go with ethan And just change the e to a because a lot of people would go and finish. Well would you that. I'll have pasta. It's passed you. Don't buy a mazda. You drive a masdar fee canadians. I don't speak like that pasta. It's right like the guy in boston garage. Well they what garage grudge. I should say we say as you're still canadian dual citizen. These are still your people. Jim answer that they are people. What else do we have here. This is a weird one from an inside joke here. Maybe i'm not getting it from tom. Firm and what is the capital of maine. I already answered that one online for augusta k. They said you still have to listen to our podcast michel. Yes and yes. So he's he's an agreement. Okay all right. I guess there wasn't an inside joke. That i was not privy to. I do like the state of maine more more more likely than not. It's just because they have l. o. b. in that state. And i bought way too many things there when i when i visited there once. Here's one from mark gilbert. Do you think the nhl would consider a nickelodeon game like the nfl. Did to explain rules and enhanced. The game to youth like using team mascots to explain different rules violations I don't know about you jim i. I flipped over to that game No eagle who's the play-by-play voice on the radio for the la clippers Was calling the game with a neighbor nickelodeon personalities and like i thought walking into that game that oh it's just going to be a whole bunch of fluff and they're not gonna take the game seriously. They called the game straight like the play by play was still there. The analysis was still there they. I felt like made it really accessible by exactly that explaining rules. And i read the book. I forgot about exiting. The box delayed thirty thirtieth year as broadcaster and in every preseason meeting that i've had with with whatever outlet has been carrying the kings. I have suggested rules games during the course of the season. Not every game. Maybe once every ten games. So for instance. Every time the whistle goes if there's a rule attached to it we would explain that and again that's why it doesn't work every game. That's why every ten e just have to sprinkle them in their wanna penalty is called. We have a pre made graphic which gives the explanation of that rule tripping hooking whatever it is and it might not be the whole kind of pair it down right the bridge version so you get the things that are important within that rule and usually so the people who i'm speaking about knew who they are my bosses look at me and say great idea. It never happens never has happened. And you know what more specifically to southern california. And i'm not talking about long time kings fans because they have been with us through thick and thin but there is a difference in know how many people actually put on a pair of skates percentage wise of our population here in southern california compared to toronto. So maybe we could. We could get more people to watch on tv or in person if every once in a while. There was an outlet for them to go to find the rules in the context of a game. That's i know. I haven't even brought it up concert text of young kids. Which is it fits perfectly right but it was just more just the the the viewer and then maybe a longtime kings fan. I'll be watching a game and say you know what buddy come over tonight. Normal circumstances non kkob. Hey come on over tonight. we're gonna watch us game. I know you don't know hockey but this is one of the rules. Games are doing. Come and join us. Maybe you can new fan or at the very least you know i. 'cause i've heard i actually think it's one of the Easier rules to explain is icing. Because it's not a. It's not a rule that has any sort of I guess Relevance or even concept in any other sport the idea of icing right. You know if you if you throw the puck all the way down the ice. Well we don't want you doing that without you know it. Actually being pass intended for teammate. It's like intentional grounding right like it's not even that that's the only rule that over and over people. So well what's icing. What's it's it's not you know. It's not that hard once you see a couple of times some of the nuances are difficult. Yeah and then. Why didn't they call that icing. Where defensible will turn the wrong way intentionally to stay away from touching the pockets it goes by and and that's why it gets confusing to me. It's like a punt in football but you change the rules to this when you punt. You're just gaining ground right in hockey you punt by icing but you lose ground your your face off does come back into the team that punted it comes back to your zone because you don't wanna give eighteen the opportunity to relieve pressure that easily if you're going to relieve pressure with a novel unskilled type of play. You must be penalized for that and the palliative face off closer to your goal. Where if you win the faceoff then you have a chance to score. This goes back to the idea on a power play. I would love the Icing to be enforced. I don't i don't understand why it isn't If you're supposed to penalize a team if they're supposed to be a man down why are they then. Given the advantage of the ability to send the puck out with any consequence like why. Why is it easier than on the team killing the penalty than it was when they were at even strength when they hadn't committed the foul that i've never understood. I'd like to change that. I'd like to put in an official motion change. That i'm going to file file. Tuesday night's game under protest. And i'm going to put into motion to To change the rule so that the icing is in enforced on a penalty kill. We're gonna table that for further discussions and latin analysis and research. I want more scoring. That's what the offside rule which you have this. You just have to obviously teams who are killing pelly. Which stopped doing it as much if the whistle went. But you also have to. You have to start worrying about too many stoppages of play more stoppages of play which you normally don't want normally want to play free flowing and moving from shift to shift creek creates the energy and keeps the energy up. That's what normally you're looking for For people say we want more penalties called. Or let's do the full two minutes right so even if you score the team still stays on the power play and i understand that more scoring but you know what there is a certain half court format to power place which from the back and forth transition game of hockey which creates that speed and energy because on powerplays more so than five on five or even strength you enter the zone and then you stop and you go into a half court attack which slows the game down. Does he give you better chance of scoring. yes it will more goals scored if you have two full two minutes in the penalty box regardless was going on but you know you've got to balance that in context of sixty minutes and how many stoppages you want and how much free flow transition skating do you want. I actually think the offside it hasn't really come into effect yet in any of our games. Maybe there have been one or two entries where where it was close and maybe in years past. They would have whistled but like escape. Weather escape was up above the ice. Or not honestly. I haven't noticed it i again. I haven't watched enough games from around the league to see. If there's been any goal that would have been called back in in previous years but like to me. It just seems like okay. it's normal. It has an impact of the game at all. I think it does allow the skater. Who's potentially going to go off site under the old rule. It gives them you know. Just one less thing to worry about to keep his speed up so then maybe on that attacker ten seconds later he's more involved in the play that you would normally would have been but they're still going to be close calls whether the plane has been broken yet regardless of whether the skates on those still be close the one thing that will take away from that alex is. This is that because of the institution of the rule last year where. You're penalized with a penalty if you're wrong. The chances of our coach asking for a review that is dramatically decreased. Yeah so but you know it's fine with me you know. It's it's a tweak. I don't think it says steps as many people felt it would've been but did tweak agree to positive tweak i've one last one From nicholas walker. Who asks with all the protocols limits to gathering in place. How does it team build chemistry away from the ice. This'll be fascinating question. And maybe we'll have to interview a player next week. We'll see if we can arrange that for for the podcast next week but this is a fascinating question to me because so much we we hear about how teams bond is when they travel and they build camaraderie on the road. You'd in theory. You don't have that this year. Everything's virtual everyone's kept separate like the only time that you're together is at the rink. That's it the one thing i look at is first of all is this. It's the same for every team. Having said that there are teams. That are more veteran based they already know each other more so than a team like the kings that are bringing in younger and younger players in different tweaks to the wire so point well point well taken. I wouldn't go as far as to categorize it as a huge competitive but it will affect different teams differently based on the roster makeup and how many guys have been wrong around for a longer period of time. but that's that's it's we're going through it alex. Everyone is is the virtual meeting to stay around after. Kobe goes away. I mean in some form no question out. Maybe not every day like we're doing it. No stay around right. There's a cost effectiveness to it right right so it'll stay around that way. I know we talked way. Way way way back alex kobe. Starting one of our again. I the thing i remember. This was when video stores came out. And that's when video they have streaming behind rewind up. Yeah exactly people felt that the cedar industry would go away because people would no longer have to go to a theater to watch a movie regardless of what was you know release. You don't have to wait two months or two years to see it. Well i think the the scientists out there the doctors real you know brought up the point that we are social animals and humans and we wanna be around other people and for that reason people still. What movie theaters. They still congregated that way But i see a lot of effects. Postcode that will be continued on. And that's still doesn't go away from the gentleman's point a really interesting real interesting. study of how. You create unsure coaches and training staffs both the equipment and the medical are looking for different ways to create that environment where you can still bond because the best way right is after a game either get together as a group. You go have a few drinks whether it's water whether it sorta whether it's a beer or sometimes you know of teams would automatically go right back to their hotel in back-to-back situation and eat as a group in a conference room and those types of things are not going to be available for a while. I know already it impacts us what we do 'cause i would go to the tv truck before even our production meetings kind of get a feel for. What are they working on what you know. What technical limitations might we have this. Show you know What's the what's the other team doing. You know maybe. Just get a couple of You know if they need any requests for me buttoned up and now it's very much show up. Do the game go home. And there's not a lot of stuff in between but alex to me. It's just a man questioned really Great question a observation. But to me. I find that now since we have our production meetings earlier in the day even though we're not together and you know maybe the one part of my day enjoy most was us getting together with production meetings jobs back and forth and those ts here. They'll cheese their little joke care. And you get your work done. But i think that's still happens on zoom calls. We have but. I find that now that i'm a routine has been adjusted because of kogo and no longer the ability to get together in person once we get to the arena. We're having our meetings earlier in the day. And i think that helps me prepare because now i have everything in front of me earlier than i normally would and i'm just able to kind of maybe sort up my thoughts a little bit better. I feel like the show is is buttoned up earlier in the day and then helps again. I'm taking. I'm trying to take as many positives anything. That's one of them as many positives as possible. During this time where we have to adapt we have to change. And i think that's one of them just from our own. That's inside baseball right like you know. We would do a production meeting at three four something in the afternoon. We'll now we're doing it. Eleven thirty in the morning inside have you. That helps mel allen. Yeah inside baseball mel allen. Yep that the I maintain that there will be things that that come out as positive to this the kings as we wrap up here first road trip coming up every team is going to have to do it We know what it's like to be. A part of the teams travel party. The plane will be more spaced out. The you know everybody's on with a mask. The protocol spells it out that you know what used to be catered You know a meal on the plane probably isn't happening. Probably guys are being told your eat before you get on the plane and we're because we're not going to serve on the plane or if we do it's going to be you know much smaller scale than it was before You land like you know you're you're going straight to the hotel room. I you know. Just looking at athletes from other sports a lot. More athletes or bringing video games with them on the road. Everybody's loading up their net flicks bringing books to read year basically in solitary confinement in between prices. You can't sit around a group of four and play cards or five or six. Usually have they have a table setup already for card player slurs for that sit down. There's also two or three that kind of hang around that group and or rally Sit on the edge of the seat across the aisle and they're playing in the same game. those types of things will will not be able to be done. But you know maybe we'll talk to a player next we'll see if we can get some insight into what was difficult about being on the road. This burke borough kaczynski berkoff ski of the avalanche. We didn't play game three. He was asked you know because he was in the bubble last year and the one thing he did say was it is different this year because you do get to go home every week or two weeks and when you do go home you don't go back to a hotel room you go back to your home and your kids and your family compared to the bubble where it was. So there's less restrictive non bobble obviously just by definition but ban. Just that question. That observation really did spur on a lot of interesting conversation. On how we're going to go forward that it's fascinating different year it'll be no less challenging. The the eventual champion will have have persevered. Maybe even more so than they did in the bubble last year And they will certainly be worthy champion. But i'm i'm looking forward to What we get next week. Keep the questions coming as always we appreciate it. Thanks to our producer is always jesse cohen. Hit the subscribe button to get new episodes directly. Wherever you get your podcasts and we will see you next week everybody.

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Visit light dream dot com slash Libertad. For more information. God has a little something for Sean McVay also is yelling at his computer and Bill Barnwell for saying. This is the best final four we've ever had. Stugatz. Decided to add a dollar perspective under his breath. When no one was listening and saying I'm sure I can find a better one the king of the knee jerk coming after Bill Barnwell for some reason, it ally, it's just like prisoner of the moment. And I'm used to listen to you tight career at a prisoner of the moment. Right. And I hate when other people Bill Barnwell is supposed to show perspective. Leave the prisoner of the moment. Stuff to meet Mike Ryan is in New York handling executive things. Here is a pretty decent stat of the day. Start of the day started the day in the battle of the day. Start of the day started the day in this stat of the day. Start of the day startled day in this stat of the day start up the day instead of the day as the start of the day. From Bill bender of the sporting news, and the sporting news at this point, given technology makes me think it feels like from the nineteen fifty the sporting news, something we loved in our childhood. Put it on the poll. Guillermo, have you picked up a sporting news recently? This is Bill bender. He says since turning forty Tom Brady has played in four playoff game. In those four playoff games. He is averaged three hundred sixty one passing yards with nine touchdowns and zero intercept. Is ageing different than everyone in the history of the sport at that position or any other and yesterday, he did the thing that you feared he would do and. Stugatz was lamenting during the break your poor. Andy Reid trying to get crawling and screaming to that trophy. Just you're just trying to get there. And what's coming to town this week it it's not very good on the road this year. But it's terrifying. I think they've been bad on the road purposely. So no one takes them seriously headed into this week's game. I'm serious Bella chick coaching move during the regular season. We're just going to throw away. Some of these these road games guys. Let's go on the only way to explain the way. The dolphins beat them at the end. It's the only way they just dumped the game. Right. Think he set out to go eight now on the road and foreign aid? No at home for four in the row. But then he felt like he had to give rebel that win member of rebel goes able used to play for them. So we gave them that win. So they went three and Patricia that ruined to give Patricia win to two you. Yes, he did. He he gifted both. Them win. So but now everyone thinks that bad on the road and they stroll into aero- head as underdogs, and that is the worst case scenario for Andy Reid, he laid down the groundwork last week for this upset because they were asking him about home field advantage, and they were talking to him about this this current week against the chargers. And he said, you know, what I don't think home field advantage is that big a deal, but I was reading between the lines. He was talking about this coming week in Kansas City. He was letting everybody know we're going to Kansas City, and we are winning that game. There is no home field advantage. When it comes to Bill, Jack. You're like in the chiefs. I said man, you're gonna fall with this again. Well is the man. Here's. Here's the thing. First of all, okay. Thank you for carrying about me that way it. Got to do not doubt the patriots. You're warning me too. Because I haven't taken enough beating over the last four years saying he's got to age at some point six years ago. What it on the poll Guillermo dozen Tom Brady half the age at some point. Like it. See I didn't feel like I was going out on a limb in any way saying that every quarterback throughout history. This is where they fall. Max Kellerman with me been saying just as loud on. I take for four years doubt say it again, though, I care about you does this the week. It's going to happen. This is bad on the road this year, Stu gods. I know but again on purpose. I mean by design and Andy Reid is never felt more confident about phasing patriot. And that he does this week value, and that was all done by design. They have the least percentage chance of winning the Super Bowl the four remaining teams. I mean, I don't know who did that. But they should take a back right now because I care about this. The other three teams have been better all season. It's just that that quarterback in that coach better this time of year than anybody again. The patriots have done this purpose. I think I figured it out. So every year that the patriots are super dominant. Everyone starts snooping around them and poking their nose and they start finding out. Oh, wait a minute. Tom Brady, Bill Belichick knock heading along. Oh, Tom Brady has this trainer that no one really likes. And there's always investigations when they're super dominant. So you toss a couple of games to your friends. You have them. Look good. You go in the two or three seat in the playoffs. You don't host the investigation. No one paint kick contents of your office. You play gronk at safety on a game winning play little hiding the week the underdogs. Right, right. The little engine. They were embarrassed by that play. Hugh is part of the team is going to go into the postseason run past ground on the goal line. And wait to see what meets then. Then. I love God saying the idea that the patriots are going to quote unquote, stroll into aero- head. I love the idea of them strolling in like just sort of dragging chains and bottle, broken bottles mind, isn't that the way you imagine it? I mean, the nervous team on Sunday is going to be the cheese now. The patriot patriots stroll, right? The hell to the patriots have to be afraid of someone's gonna come in on the patriots. I don't know if it's Bella checker Brady someone's gonna come in. And they're just gonna be twirling cane around their finger as they stroll into the state whistling. It's gonna be grunk because he had surgery again this week. Really, no. I'm just saying it every week. Didn't actually have certainly Monday just assume before games they go into like a garage. They got a bunch of guys with oil on aprons, and then just sort of put together a weekly tuneup. Lubricate everything spray it down with w d forty. The chiefs do a lot better than anyone else in Chris Collins pointed this out, so I can't take credit for this. They zig when others. And it's one of the things he said it, and I'm like, he's right. They do like the dolphins down here. They always zig when others zig but the chiefs they really do if you watch them play. They are always zagging when others zigging, and they when others adding to really good at it. Me pointed. Even think about it. But once he said, I'm like, he's right. He is right about that. Great analysis now is when the cheese when you think you have them figured out, and they do something different. That's it. Everyone's doing one thing they do in the they're gonna throw a really deep up. Nope. End around Tyree kill but Stu gods? And a lot of other people think Andy Reed's good, and the people who know football keep telling you that Andy Reid is really good at this. Is good the problem when you sag when other people's z Z and other people's zag is that thin the other coach plans for you to zag when you're supposed to be zigging zigging when you're zagging, but then you zig when your suppliers. There's no better zigzag than Bella chick. That's the thing. He knows when you're going to dig even though you're showing zag he knows you're gonna when you're showing zig, and that's the problem, and he gets nervous. So you're right. Like when everyone else zigzags tire season until it gets the crunch time AFC championship game. And then he does exactly what you expect today any poops. Instead of zigging again, there's just clock management issues. And then pooping his underwear. Mony Mony Mony Mony forget about. Shell uttered thirty thing. Everyman began. No, they didn't need gronk yesterday. That's one thing wrong. What was it? One. Catch one catch twenty five yards. But they did that thing that no one else in the league is figured out quite as well. Even though the Rams and saints are trying that thing where they turn their running back and off into a pass where they're throwing that white guy forty times, and he's not an actual white is name is James fifteen catches ninety seven years. He's the white guy. But he's not a white guy. How many catches he had fifteen catches for ninety seven yards? I mean, you're right. That's part of their running game. They essentially ran for two hundred and forty some or running game. I'm convinced that on the draft board of Bella check anyone named white gets higher. So that you can just say keeps beating you white guy. Then you forget they have Philip door set because Josh Gordon gone to then Josh Gordon leaves. And then Phillip doors said is giving you four catches and a touchdown. It doesn't matter. It's frustrating. Wonderful. Don't do it. Then don't doubt your you. Worry about me. What's the point spread in that game? Kansas City and the patriots the patriots getting three points. Chiefs three saw last night. I believe early line. Tuck -nology truth brought to you by Tyco. Truth. You will certainly send any text about your supervisor to your supervisor. What's Janet's fangs? Did she lose that? With a weed whacker? Oh, Sint, wait. No. No. No. No, no. It's so easy to switch him. Save on car insurance at geiko dot com. Janet, I think my phone was hacked or something. Gogo fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more donlevatar part and got selfish and decided to want to use enemy the guy. And I told you when he went there. He's never gonna win a championship. He was more concerned James harden about being the best player on a decent team. Then he wasn't being the third best player on the legendary team. Stugatz. James harden and the beards enough already who's he with a beard. Hey, trying to be different James heart of the beard. It's seriously the beard, but I think of James harden, I won't think of anything other. I think championships I won't think of winning. I won't think of one of the all time greats. I'll only think of is ridiculous beard hard. Beer, your shame themselves. DC's live at our show with us to God's own ESPN radio. Get in touch with the show any time to the one eight hundred flowers Twitter feed at lebatardshow at stugotz ninety. If you missed our interview with Rodney Harrison comb, God check it out on demand in the Dan lebatardshow podcasts would demand that. Brought to you by the new Capital One saver guard or four percent cashback on dining and entertainment two percent at grocery stores. One percent on all the purchases. What's in your wallet? Dan, it's Ivor straighttalk. It's brought to you by straight talk wireless. Best phones. Best networks, no contracts. Here's some straight talk for you at lebatardshow, Instagram and Twitter does Jon Bon Jovi looked like your aunt, Carol. He looks like an old woman the same way Steven Tyler looks like an old woman. Now the same way that axl rose looks like an old woman. Now, they Bon jovi's like the rest of us where he thought ten years ago. There's no way I'm still going to be sitting here at ten years next to Bob Graham, celebrate Tom Brady for sure. It's weird. How is it possible? That Tom Brady is more enduring than Jon Bon Jovi, you see the cameras caught them to jam into living on a prayer that it was singing in unison. It looks so cute together as awesome. That has to be the best feeling in the world. Right. John Jovi looked like Bob Kraft's wife there. Dancing living on a prayer. Could you imagine writing? Everyone just recites to you at the top of their lungs and joy, I get imagined. Oh, well, he he if you've ever seen the documentary on him. He is a businessman like he is not partying after shows and stuff he is ambitious beyond ambitious ambitious in the greedy way that the patriots are. And he says Jon Bon Jovi does he wants to sell out the desert twice. That's the thing that the he's still has that rockstar. It is not a surprise that this greedy rocker is attracted to that particular team. But who looks most like an old woman put it on the poll, Steven Tyler actual rose. Jon Bon Jovi. I want to get back to what we were talking about earlier about Larry Bird. All right. Put him on there too. And Ned Joost. I thought that I thought that Larry Bird looked like an old Ukrainian woman without her headscarf. I thought that's what he looked like they can't be Ukrainian. I was thinking American woman women but fair enough. Carson Wentz that ball goes through Al Jeffrey's hands. And you saw the way we did the interview with Rodney Harrison where we asked him. What do you do with folds like you go back to wins? Then we asked him. If I switched it up and made the eagles the winner yesterday. He goes back to Foltz. That's it. I'll Sean Jeffrey drop the ball changes everything never mind folds get out. What do you think though, honest answer because the eagles would have had a problem on their hand? Given how much better that offensive line is playing? Yep. Given that it had gotten back to where their championship level was with foale's. That's the saints based on a sixteen game. Sample are the best team in the league, either them or the chiefs, right and terms of ballot that the saints can beat you every way you wanna play three nothing. You wanna play forty two thirty seven. They can they're the team that that's remaining most capable of beating you anyway, you'd like that's fair. Yes. Nobody would dispute that right? I don't think anyone will dispute that except the patriots privately privately. Yes. They don't do it. Just gonna warn me ill the suit on your your move is just going to be the warned me don't pick against the patriots. Love you, man. I care about you. Don't do it. Don't do it. Otherwise me Tedy Bruschi celebrating this patriots. Superbowl. Why do you have such such disdain all of a sudden for Sean McVay is it because everyone else doesn't have it. What he did in that game. I know he's being celebrated. I do think this falls. Once conversation is interesting. We'll get back to it. But what he did in that in that game on was it Saturday. Do they play against the Cowboys? You can't do that, Dan. I mean, I understand new age coach thirty years old. He's trying to be the guy that goes for it all the time. Okay. Do you can't in a one score game? Okay. In a playoff game decide you're going to go for it. Rather than kicking easy field goal that put you up a Levin ends the game. You just can't do it. It's look at me. It was a dumb decision. And we're only celebrating it because it worked if it didn't work and they lost that game. Forget it. You bet the Cowboys, right? Yes. Sean mcvay. I think we can all agree as cute, right? We've been calling mcbay with a b for a long time. What he did was to cute. And that's the problem with people. Sometimes they don't know that there's such a thing as being too cute. And that's what he was doing was. He absolutely. You don't think he was? I mean, that's dumb. Decision. It worked. I get it and C J Anderson playing for the Rams, but I get it. Okay. For the ram. You can't do that in that spot. And you get because it's gonna here's what's going to happen. He's gonna try at one time. It's not gonna work, and and then they're gonna lose a game and everyone's gonna but you know, what the fourth down stats were this weekend in the divisional games. In terms of like, you've got the four best offenses advancing. They're the most creative offenses the most risk-taking offenses. They were thirteen for fifteen on fourth down this weekend. Because leap. Yeah. I trust my offense enough to get a couple of yards on four th and sure you're gonna give me an extra set of downs to try and get the ten yards when I've already got this good of an offense. That's why that's why everybody in the league is hiring. Everyone who looks exactly the same. Everyone who's been hired recently looks the same from the bay umbrella Kingsbury got a job because he looks like McVeigh all of them. Whoever looks the most all of them. Mchugh McDowell mic liver. All those guys explain areas. Arians is a little difficult guts. Thank you for coming in with the outlier. Got me donlevatar, yo chicken times to God's modern gob. These live at our show with this to gods on ESPN radio. Let's check in on snoop Dogg doing some play by play on LA kings hockey. This is Fox Sports west play by play. We Wego around you're doing this job is the power play. Rep puck on is dos. The line. He didn't drop any taking bacon. Faking. Aching go. Again, if you're looking at his eyes club dictum, gone gotta get Luke. I talked to somebody dropped it. Go back watch it back right behind his back twenty three slide way in up against a wall. And he's right there with passive inside outside our play not affecting. Still can just get some money. Come late. Go run the we rent a three man we get the couple of. Florida point. We've got to change right now, we got us up to she on. I like the what we substitute misportrayed. You've got to come out. You got to come in time the jumped off the wall and got in the game. There you go liked it. Be aggressive more aggressive aggressive. Go get their gift in. Somebody got to be willing to take a shot. It can't be all past. Somebody's gotta won't that money who wants to money. To somebody got that. Even the play by play like. So good. I don't know what happened. Gear. Yeah. That's correct. That is correct here though, again, courtesy of Fox Sports west, I do know what hap-. Giddy. We're going to have any soon drafter sticks. Man. This get cracking into the middle of the ring. Let's go limit three wounded I liked who was number three. But the idea go Katie giddy via move Dion out the way. Ludicrous. Great. That's how fans watch it, man. That's what's so great. Who's number three for us? Go fight. He can call anything. And it's interesting. Did you see Jimmy Kimmel had a thing with him where he would just play videos of things being made? And they wouldn't tell snoop Dogg. What was being made? And he'd have to figure out what it is that they were making, and it just be like factory footage of how they made crayons or how they made lasagna whatever, and it was just nuked on calling things like that. Like he was calling a game. Watching things be made. He makes a good point about the way they sub in. And that sport is crazy that just wall the game's going on they can like alternate players on the ice. It's odd sports like you stop the game. And then make a substitution. Right. Subs on the fly. He's like I just jumped over the wall football like a running back stretch out of play. And then a wide receiver comes out, and you just sub in an extra offensive line. That would be awesome in football players running off right onto the field. Didn't you guys make all sorts of changes last week that rich Eisen stole from you? Didn't you and Billy make all sorts of changes to sports last week, weren't you? What did I hear you talking about during the break where you're complaining that rich Eisen wouldn't wear chefs at during a segment called hot takes which they were taking hot takes off of the grill and everyone were chefs had accept him. Here's the thing. That's exactly what happened on NFL network this week, and they had all the analysts, and they had a barbecue inside the barbecue. They had red lighting. So it looked like it was hot. They didn't have gloves for the analysts. But they reached in there. Anyways, they Rhys burning their hands. They had chefs had on and it would go in and they'd pull out a hot taken that either have to agree or disagree with the hot take a great segment. I couldn't believe I was watching it on NFL network. Everyone had a chef's had on except rich Eisen. He's a serious journalist. Got this weekend survey ships they're going to be in twenty three minutes. But what is it that? What is the idea he stole from you guys? I mean he's getting crushed right now on Twitter by the stugotz. Army and gear MOS army. He is you picked up some steam here with your army here. He doesn't get army's got a mafia. Okay. He's got a mafia. But is in tweeted outs since everyone is proposing off the wall ideas for the eagles whence fulls decision. How about they keep them both? But start Wentz only into week fifteen and then let foles do the rest hashtag. What works we discussed that. Exactly. Like that on Friday in the final hour, you had to be listening like honestly, the way he phrased it like week fifteen I think we had a week fourteen. So he thinks he's beating us by like a week, right or change it around a little bit. Right. So we can claim it, you know, as zone, but we were saying it'd be funny if you had quarterbacks that actually pretty interesting if you had quarterback closers and they had walkout music. And that's when we were talking about. Quarterbacks in everything changed the quarterback. Exact same quarterback. I'm surprised. He didn't throw in the lefty specialist idea that Chris brought up lefty specialists quarterbacks if you're going to face, it righty or lefty QB matchups Dan, we were talking about how you. Give Kevin cash all this credit for being a visionary and Craig counsel for using bullpens to start games we want to do that in football. And all of a sudden rich Eisen wants to do it. And you know, what they're going to do it. I'm telling you right now is instead it he told Goodell next season. It's going to be a thing. He's gonna get the credit. That's ridiculous. It's ridiculous that he stealing our stuff. And then they'll come on the air here and say, he's not stealing. And you know, patronize me tell me, you know, he's slapped me around with his resume, and the reality is he has his producer listening to how long have you been is right. I've been at ESPN boys. Hats. Journalistic integrity, except when it comes to plagiarism. This ain't free. I don't think that's plagiarism. I don't I don't think the accusation pagers, and Dan, we did something he copied it plagiar- it hits. I think it has to be written to be plagiarism. I think I think that. Good comeback. There's really no arguing with that. He wrote it. So he played you. Really? Oh, okay. Yeah. He tweeted it out. Did you write back that you right? If you wrote it and then he wrote an avenue. I haven't here on my nuts and dating. We got a notary public came in here, and stamp that Billy had this idea for rich Eisen did. It's a good thing. I tell you to put things on the calendar. Now, you know, why that's why you have time stamp now Bill. So where do we go from here? I dunno donlevatar. Guts. Liveth our show with his two guards on ESPN radio. Happy fiftieth birthday to Dave Grohl. Happy day to him. I don't care. Good luck. Happy fifty first birthday to l l cool j happy birthday to him. Happy fiftieth birthday to Jason Bateman. I don't care if he still looks for teen though. He does happy fifty nine th birthday to Dominique Wilkins. Lock happy fifty fourth birthday to rob zombie happy birthday to him. I don't care. Good luck. Happy sixty fifth birthday Howard, Stern Gallach. Happy fifty fifth birthday. Jeff bezzaz. I don't care. Fainter. I don't know if he's Abby. Oh, he's happy. Read those text messages. He's happy. Good luck. I can't believe we got. I can't believe that Bezos has anyone ahead of him in terms of being able to get to his texts. I thought for sure he would be the leader in being able to get everyone else's tax, and no one would ever get his. But now, we're snooping around in his bedroom. And wolf is that uncomfortable. It is Dominique Wilkins. That's the one that hurts the most for me right there. The highlight film. So stugatz is weekend. Observations. Ten minutes. In ten minutes. We will have the stugatz weekend operations. It's very popular. And I don't know why you do that. I don't know why. After all of these years, you really you just you're not even hurt by the age of Dominique Wilkins. You just wanted to be able to get to human highlight film because you've got nicknamed to readiness of sorry. Not sorry, right. It's a signature move of yours. I do you is anyone else. Like me. We just had we had an hour ago. I want I want to relive this. Even though I don't wanna relive many parts of this. Rodney Harrison interview. But I wanna relive that. He changes the analysis on what to do with foale's whether or not at Sean Jeffrey catches that ball. That's the guy on Sunday night football, man. That's not like just some guy giving you an opinion guy who sits at the middle of the most watched sporting event or the television of of the week. He did give us exactly what we wanted right there. I mean, he said he gotta part ways with Nick foles. But then you ask them. Well, what happens if he makes that catch then maybe keep them? Unbelievable. What kind of this is that perfect analysis? From the stood out school of broadcasting. Really good. And he's right. And it's ridiculous. Think about that for second. I have no, Dan. We would probably all right. If we had the joy state Carson Wentz. I think right. Well, I think that Nick foles was making that an interesting conversation. But it's just again another over simplification of how do I win? It's the quarterback and ignores that their offense of lying got healthy for fulls like their offense of line was mauling people and so Donald J J watt and Columbia couldn't get anywhere to never mind sacks. They couldn't get any touches on Nick foles. And so he gets to play the sport the way Tony Romo Dak Prescott got to play a few years ago when they were behind that offense of line. And the magic doesn't mean much. I I understand a lot of people are blaming alshon Jeffery today. But what it is that one of the chief differences between the way that folds and Wentz plays. Is that folds throws to Jeffrey a lot? He does he involves involves Jeffrey more than when's does whence throws more to irks and quarterbacks develop their favorites. It's why Dez Bryant was always feuding with Jason Witten because Romo was always going to win because you just trust man. I hope somebody in my life. Trust me, the way drew Brees trusts. Michael thomas? That's where he's going, man. It's third in thirteen. I'm going to Michael Thomas. You all know, it feel free to stop it. Oh what actually ended the eagles season? One ended the season. It was not folds Wentz. It's that their secondary was decimated on third and thirteen when the saints needed a plight. They went at the eagles third or fourth string defensive back on Michael Thomas. Yes. I mean, one of the best wide receivers football. Right. I mean, that's and they have a defense which is interesting saints defenses is really good. So, but that's a great point that they he will go to Michael Thomas and feel so confident and going to Michael Thomas, you could put four guys on Thomas leave other guys wide open hill. Still throw it to Michael Thomas. Well, that's because he's never covered right? Michael, Tom, never actually covered drew Brees. And he know where the ball's going in the defensive back doesn't in fact, I wonder if I were talking to debrief right now, I wonder how many times he drops back and. Just says to himself. I'm throwing this to the same spot. I I throw it to him in practice. When there's nobody there like, I'm just gonna keep if we've we've talked before about this YouTube video many times about drew Brees Olympic Archer and the number of times he hits a bull. I wonder how many times drew Brees is making the decision on where he's going to put the ball based on practice. And it doesn't matter whether defensive back is just that the defensive back isn't going to be as big as Michael Thomas. However, he is right. So just put it in that spot is a good chance. Michael thomas? We'll get the precision that game. I now that's the four offenses you have left. There is no defense to stop Brady when he and Etel men are super precise. What stops that like if they're going to be super precise? There's no way to for a linebacker. They're just going to open up the space elements going to go to the right or the left on a quick move based on where the Cornerbacks hips are. And Tom Brady is gonna throw it four yards to a particular spot. 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Gronk Is Gone

Highly Questionable

00:00 sec | 2 years ago

Gronk Is Gone

"Yeah. Hello again in welcome to another highly questionable week. No one around here is more highly questionable than this guy. I mean, I'll hasn't what do you like on the show today mean well, Dan, there's also to March man, what is that Jason Kidd's music. Dahlie is drug making the right decision. By retiring? Let's put this Instagram post up for the people here. I love that the last sentence, of course, is a grammatical disaster. You don't have a lot of precedent for a guy in his twenties. Choosing when he's this kind of great and this close to the winning saying never mind as quarterback plays into his forties. I think to myself man gronk must be in some serious pain. Because playing the game the way he gets to play. It seems like it'd be a lot of fun being better than everyone else until you think about three back surgeries four armed surgeries and knee concussions and achilles everything else. That's going wrong with his body. We're losing a great one here because you have not seen a better tight end that one then this isn't surprising, none of this anymore in this era football in this era of concussions what we know about the human brain what we know about football does to the human brain. It was way more surprising when megatons because. This was a guy who was totally healthy who looked like he had all his mental faculties who just said it's enough do much for me. Right. But we're Guan when you would you just rattled off the list of surgeries. He's had injuries had for the last couple years. He's tired. He's looking like he's tired of rehabbing title missing games. Tired of being hurt all the time. And for a guy who's really well themselves force making money both on and off the field. Not surprising at all great career halted. Oh is looking forward to is. No, profession roms. That's right. Rob gronkowski. You know what? I mean. I tell you something, you know, but Kraft has big plans for him. You know what? I mean, he's going to be the leader. His rash. Because rob no some hot spots. Hostile. That's. No, these sidetracked. -fornia? Let's take over the world. Stay I'm on knocking off. Is still detained to be Duke. Barely hangs on gets lucky by chef skis own admission and the game plan that was used on them. You've gotta think what everyone else in this tournament is going to use which is just let them shoot from wherever it is that they want to and pack the pain and see if they'll make anything you have not seen them that disrespected on their shooting all season not like yesterday was. But when you look at them being three hundred and thirty ninth in three point shooting in division. One eight you understand why it is that what happened there still the favorite because they've got more talent than anyone else. But you saw how thin the margin can be. And you saw how thin they were in general playing only seven guys. And then the one thing about this. I don't think is replicable is the idea that they pack the paint around the seven foot six, dude, right? Not every team has seven foot six center rim-protector who can hold down the paint. Like that matter of fact, a lot of teams may try to pack the pain, but they'll find out this. I'm Liz doesn't really. When you pack with six foot seven six foot six but seven six taco fall. He wasn't difference maker and the other part of this is your gambling a little bit on the concept of single elimination. Meaning they don't have to be terrible shooters everyday. They just had to be terrible shooters today, and they were and so almost work if it were for the basketball guys blow right when the ball on the rim that above camera angle was amazing to see how close it is. They were losing. But I asked this question of a mean and America where you rooting for Duke yesterday because you do not want Zion Williamson out of that tournament. Do we really have a situation where America was kind of rooting for Duke yesterday? I was really from my bracket. Dan, I tell you one thing tackle full. I'm telling you that these the player of the fusion reminds seal Williams tackle full seven seeks that guy can don't he can't real. He come block the shot. He eats at beast. I'm telling you. S Zion Williams. He looked like nobody next to hand. True at all. One of the big mistake. But Magic Johnson if he hired Jayson Kate. I laughed when I heard this because I thought that what you have seen the walkie this year, given that they left behind Jason Kidd would be a thing on his resume that he would not be able to overcome keep in mind. He fled Brooklyn for a better job gotta star player and Milwaukee underachieved in the same kind of way that hasn't allowed Mark Jackson to evolve as a coach since leaving Golden State. It wouldn't be a mistake in this case though. Because as a mean says this is a different kind of coaching job. That's not completely fair to Jason Kidd's job in Milwaukee. Obviously there are way better now than they were under him. But he did several things when he got there. He was the one that put you on into more of a ball dominant role being as a guard. He was responsible for a lot of player development. I think Jared Dudley was on a podcast recently talking about the player development stuff the way that Jason Kidd taught the young players how to watch film and how to be pros in Asli at being a head coaching. As a lot more than just Xs and os. It's all these other little job. So you can be good at some of it and other parts as we see the way Milwaukee succeeding now. But as it pertains to the Laker job, the most important thing is you have a Costa Abhran respects and pays attention to David Griffin. Former Cavs GM to the big thing Tyler who had was his ability to tell nuts. He wanted to hear but stuff the he needed to hear and that is infinitely evenly more important on a LeBron led team than say having the best play diagramming or having the best defensive schemes because the reality is as long as you have a healthy, LeBron James and a competent corps around him. You're gonna be successful. From a basketball standpoint, you need to be able to demand respect and attention. That's more important for head coach. He said that that carry ever in criticized breath Stevens scheme there were a lot of S's in there. Let's check in with the guy who was on the wrong end of everything we can. But Walker was doing scoring thirty six points against the Celtics. More damning is just losing to Kemba Walker, but look at how kyri addressed it afterward. Gets going like that. I'll stop on that pride. Down the stretch trying to come in and help as much as possible probably travel more like a team does. Sorts of Donald. I'm just not a fan of what was the point of that you want throw your coaching staff under the bus, even the free gave he was in their preaching in pleading that we should travel just like every other team does and new buddy. Listen to me, you still keep that in house. But here's my favorite fun fact about kyri says he does this every time we play us. Well, the cracks have here looked it up his game. Log Kemba ahead of forty point plus game against the Celtics. You know, what he did in the other two games twenty one points on four shooting? So he doesn't do this every time he did it once before. And then he did it again last night as far as criticism goes, this is fairly benign. I think a lot of guys in the league say this. It's not any kind of problem, but Kyrie Irving has been talking so much that he's the one guy that you don't want saying it has everyone's heading into the playoffs. He's the one guy that you don't want saying stuff like that about his coach, especially when it's about defense. You're not the one. Thing. Fred, Fred, Fred Hoyer. Yes ran. Yeah. You think that they should have trap Cambe? Yeah. Of course, you have three or four guys realizing you think that you should be kosher this next year right now. Right. Right. Okay. Red. Okay. I tell you. He was really up on that one. He was really open swinging on that one. Lamar retreat from the guy now that big bullet brought up used to be crumbling became in today. Talking about this story because he's like Donnie you've got to watch the numbers always watch the numbers. I have seen lavar ball say and do a lot of things. But what I would actually pay to see is what his reaction was when he gets that Email saying, hey, where's the one point five million dollars because it appears that he trusted the wrong person? And here's the bummer about it. I was kind of rooting for lavar ball to succeed here as the Egner kissed trying to turn over the sneaker industry. I wouldn't normally root against somebody like lavar ball trying to be an anti establishment gut. But he comes off is so striving to me that I imagine a lot of people are enjoying the fact that he fell in the same pothole that others fall into. This is a sad story. Then this is a story of people being defrauded not by some slick Wall Street guy who comes into hey manager kids future, and we'll make millions. It's. By someone who is a family friend, Alan foster, the guy who allegedly embezzled this money was the father of a kid who grew up with Lonzo they met in the seventh grade this is a family. They've known them for over eight years. This is a guy that you'd have over at your house knows your family. They know your family, and and to be defrauding by someone like that. That's got are hurt and make no mistake the ball their victims in this story by guys not only the father them, but has a history of doing this. And one of the damning things in that article that I read was the idea that he the judge said he targeted other African American families kind of with that in. Hey, let's invest the black dollar and all this stuff. And meanwhile, he was robbing them blind. So while it's easy to root against the verbal today's not today when people should be doing. Coming up next on highly questionable. Knocked the ball away. That's successful defense and Germany lamb just like they do it up. Time to play again things people who've on their chicken tenders into thin are insane. Do you question you give up events in? We questioned in his frosting. He'll give him and his frosting. Do you questioning Jeremy lamp got lucky? Okay. Charlotte had to lose this game. This was a game that was lost their three seconds left in the game. They're down by two and Toronto plays the kind of defense that you have to play at the end of the game. Knocked the ball away. That's successful defense in Germany lamb. Just like they do it up in the huddle all that had to feel so good. I mean, so good quiet that arena with that parabola that you just shot into the rafters and came down at that angle going through the baskets because this isn't even a normal. He this is higher than your average. He yet any attitude it like that because Pasco Siaka was all over them. And that's the irony of this plate, PASCAL defended perfectly. First of all he got to the flex the ball trickles into the backward. He chases it down. And then he gets a great contest without valley. And what does he get for his efforts? He actually force their Mulund. Exact right. Arkansas rejected. So that it would hit the glass and go in. Did you guys see Kemba Walker reaction? Let's see this. Thank you for the helpful aero there. Thank you. Is like, oh, no. Thought it was done. Another one. It's all like. Nothing to be doing that. That's my shine though. That's not what he was thinking. He thought man is garbage team. I got play on that. I do everything. But I don't think last that is no actually what it in. But you know, my favorite part about that clip is beyond the fact that Jerry lamb, I celebrate like and what like is supposed to go in the idea that the Hornets somehow, someway or not only still in the running for a playoff seat, but also for the southeast division. Crown how bad is the Saudis division? Ninety eight spot. Oh, we're not. I belong to hit that I'm going to action pretty soon if this stuff around with eight spot old on them and do something to them in the hotel split some good stuff in their food or something like that. My father just threatened to food ways in the Charlotte on it. It's not going poisoning. When you do it on purpose. That's called just poisoning. No you question if this was necessary high school across was this necessary. This is probably not as God. I don't even need to see. The video guys was doing ESPN news college game. This is high school. What is that part of the game? Oh, wow. Oh my God. You have to take each of them out by the knees. If you're the other team God. Yeah. Because they're probably up at this point twenty to nothing, right. Everybody behind the back. No, man. Look hold on. First of all Dante things that are bunch of jerks. Second of all that is new my new favorite team sports. Now, I wanna watch this high school team play lacrosse every day. And they're going to be doing people like that. I don't think they can do that every time. The defense. Why do you know what defense that team reminds me of the Lakers? Aw. Same fans as the Lakers. I didn't see that one. Because the question if the white shirts had it coming, oh, this is boxing here. And this guy in the white and orange shorts. My father did little move there. There was a bit disturbing a little selfish more than menacing. Let's check in with this guy. He's been winning the entire five. Now, he's feeling it. The other guy was tired too tired without. Yes. Now, ten seconds watch. What happens at the ten second? Mark taunting. You. And the one he's got one. TC? Chicken. But if this is exactly what guide this is. All right. We're looking for someone like too who's dancing anytime dance? You lower your head. You put your job that everyone in the world is waiting to get rock and for what actually happened that was pretty bad. But they have seen someone get at worse. No. You have not yet. Up again with the chapel. Everyone on the show gets knocked out because it's one thing to be like stylistic. This guy's dancing outta here. Man. Oh, and I love our enemy. He gets keep clubbing them over the face after he's clearly knocked out. I hate when I'm break, dancing and some dude it's with his shin. Question on these from the London hotel, beautiful selfish Miami. I'm playing again that dose and learn from his mistakes seat on tell us what to watch on television tonight. He'll always be intrigued. On NBA TV Sixers and magic. No. But I want to check in with a game that we didn't talk about because we were off you had Joel Embiid getting pushed by professional irritant, Marcus smart. And that seemed to be a real furious to joint. But when you look at the still picture, I think Marcus smart happily takes whatever the fines just to have that picture for the rest of his life. He can put that up his out somewhere. That's a seven foot two hundred eighty pound duties pushing who look beads face. I don't know which faces funnier here. I mean, are you intriguing? I haven't treat this is a really important game for playoff implications. But I love the look on beach because he looks like he's being electrocuted. And Marcus smart looks like you say come on man, change my mind, Bob here, you intrigue all CC intriguing on. Okay, we'll happens to now. You know? I hope I hope we say close game. I hope they then make the magic were hard to not be goes tomorrow night. It's going to be the big. For Miami tomorrow night, imagined Turcoman into Miami. And the heat they're going to take care of business tomorrow night. I'm telling you that they belong to hit. No matter who is and tomorrow night heat tag going to send a clear message rest on the NBA. You know, you don't wanna play them in the play because they're going to make you suffer. A threat from my father. On Fox Sports west king's inflames. Oh, my father is going to be watching this one because no one likes Calgary, Flames hockey the way this guy does. But let's check in with their goal here. Mike Smith is this a big head or is he flopping here. Angle like look at it again. Then on the world improper, I know when I do when the arm spoil out, and the hair starts to kind of do this crazy art that's a flop. Okay. Are you intrigue? Not intrigue. No, probably how about you. You intrigue. Oh, see. I'm very intrigued that you say something about flapping. Also. You guys shoot warning. Three or got to reach out. There. Literally was no reason to show that clip. There was no connect while. There was your shame. That's a very good reason. Fox Sports Florida Panthers in Maple Leafs. My entire lifetime. The Panthers have been five points out of the final playoff seed. Let's check in with an empty net. The Panthers have here. This should be an easy goal right against the Bruins. Oh, you see that? Let's slow that down the empty net. Hey, great, save by a team that's down three goals with very little time left. I mean, are you intrigue? I'm not intrigued and not only another upset. I'm angry. We did to hockey games and see or no. And the Carolina her. He's one of them on her are America's team. They have the best celebrations last week. They did world this weekend. They were they ran a pick and roll on the is with the wheel basketball. We're the real basketball go and the guy dumped it, but no not good enough for the highly questionable. Producers that is most passionate. I've seen him in the history of this show over that story popular, you intrigue CC into you kidding me. That was an amazing died better than this one here here. We're going me. Then how does it look there? Does it look like it's less? Oh, you just gotta just grabbing getting you gotta get rotary showery. Now, the has to be good. Thing. That's the only time we'll have to that thing for wash. Are we gonna let him back tomorrow with the ridiculous? Oh, you're back. I got something to show. Very old. What was that time to segment home? Now, you're gonna be you gotta get practicing.

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Let's Stay Together?

Highly Questionable

00:00 sec | 2 years ago

Let's Stay Together?

"Very purple up here today. Welcome to highly questionable. She's Katie Nolan. She came in spicy with swagger. She's confident what do you like on the show today? Katie. I mean you kind kinda stolen I was going to say poppy shirt of really like stealing already took her confidence to poppy. Should be rugged strike to make these work, we've flipping beer then sepia three. This is crazy that this is escalating this quickly, when you consider two years ago of Chris Paul and simply been healthy, if any one of those bums on the rockets have been able to make a three and a game seven against Golden State. We would not be talking about this team being blown up, but things have gotten so reportedly bad between Chris Paul and James harden that you can't keep them together. If they don't want to play together and time of player empowerment, Chris Paul, even with the bad contract to get out of there. If he doesn't wanna be there it's going to become evident, no matter how professional he wants to be, you gotta trade guys, when they get this kind of unhappy, I loved, we've reached the point of this story. We're Daryl Maury is so tired, and it's just sell evident like there is a Zach Lowe tweet that he talked to their Maury who said, Chris Paul did not demand a trait. And he said, quote tweet that I said that print it tweet. It twice does not want to talk about. This anymore. Unfortunately, we are going to talk about it seems like there's conflicting reports. But I think it's important to remember, a lot of this stuff is coming from reportedly after they were eliminated from the playoffs which was what seven years ago? So it is in the heat of the moment both players were like get me out of here. I hate it. We all say things when we argue and maybe with time now everybody's kind of chill. It's also possible. That's not the case. But let's also forget the Antonis extension has not been signed. He may be going into the season having to coach. This doesn't sound fun to me. Let's examine that quote for a second the tweet that, then he wants to be more impressive with it. Frank rented realizes that the printing has gone to hell tweeted to places what he comes back with twenty two twice re tweet your own tweet. That's a cop out. I want you to tweet it. And then tweeted again, Zach Lowe let me get this three these guys. They hate the show there another want to Jimmy Butler. Yeah. That's usually not the recipe you wanna go for, if there's one thing they need. It's more spice. All right. The Celtics even more than what we thought. Okay. This is a daily segment. We like to call make fun of Katie and her teams, they lose Horford junior ops out on thirty million. That's the world you live in Al Horford in his mid thirties opting out on thirty million. And now he doesn't seem to want to go back. I would not give up on this team because the best of Jason Tatum might be really good. And Gordon Hayward was a top twenty player before that injury vault forgotten about him. But if he does come back in the time that it was expected form to come back, it's a two year injury. Then that is a team that has to go out and try and get something else with one of its MAC spaces. Danny aines hasn't blown this yet. But he's on the cusp of it. If you're a couple years ago, Al Horford would leave, and it would devastate the Celtics, I would have probably laughed, but it is where we are because he's been consistent. It's what they need. He's been very solid. There is still a world, a tiny adorable possibility that kyri Irving turns around in. Like, yeah, I'm going to stay a said that forever ago. And I'm staying now that could still happen. It might not, but it could. And that's why I think with the Celtics should do. Hopefully, obviously only so much you can do with money. I think they should start like making those little coupon. Books for free massage like used to do when you were a kid, and you didn't have any money to buy your parents get almo- the lawn just give out a bunch of those coupons. I don't think there's anything in the rule book about that it to get these two, maybe not leaving stay instead coupons. Glad I'm not a fan of this team because they're going down the toilet fast fast. I can hear the flush. Wow. An extra Kinley. Rush. And then the big flush. Sure, wouldn't believe goes, where he says, has no ceiling of these Aguirre from gut for coach, the most unusual body to enter an NBA draft since LeBron James, none of us know exactly what to make with a creature that looks unprecedented given what he can do at that size. And at that with, if you force me to come up with weaknesses, I will say that the league is moving toward jump shooters, moving toward the outside and his jumper is suspect, but I'm not going to root against a guy that coach K seem to love the coach never gave him a problem when he could have given him plenty of problem. Yeah. I do agree with that. I think that he's coming to pelicans team. We just said the other day is going to have trouble with shooting. So it is something he's going to have to work on find that interesting. That coach K is praising Zeile which is usually something you hear coaches to for player that we're not really sure about. And we're pretty sure about Zion. I think I would rather him come out and be like he's fine. He's fine. I mean you guys are all. Excited. I think he's okay that we set the bar little bit lower. So as I can jump over from God. She wants coach K to be out here. Sorry, mitt rage week expectations are important, and you want him to feel like he's exceeded them in right now. He cannot exceed the expectations that we have for him. Say so ready through so the civilly married Sweden tomorrow? Okay. If they take they can maybe void France, if they win the game you might get Canada. I'm not sure you want those problems either. But what we're talking about. Here is the team in this sport over the last ten times it's three four and three when these teams play I don't even know Katie if they're actually going even play the starters in this game, but I would think that they wanna be tweeden just so that they could say they're better than Sweden. Yeah. It is interesting. We could see situation in which a couple starters, sitting maybe Carla gets the start or something like that. I think what's important to remember is that this is, of course like Sweden is a very good team. And this'll be precedent setting for the rest of the tournament. They haven't really seen a challenge like this, yet, that's obvious. But also the first match thirteen nothing that we had three nothing. This is the first World Cup that the US are playing without Rattus car your hope solo in net. So listen, not gotten any sort of challenge back there. It's going to be her. First time seeing. Actual offense from the opposing team. So this is going to be huge for her and super important. Like you said, they could avoid France in Paris, which poppy said yesterday, the fix is in we definitely wanna void that. But I think it's important, they come out. They play their best in that way, they can set the tone for the next round. Somebody give me a you once a year. Give me an answer. He needs. Do you have an S over there? Could someone give him? He's got a rash on stomach. You say that's right. You say you very. Get him some balm for that rash on his stomach. Coming up next on my cell Stevie show. They won four nothing boy, this arial. Oh, that was earned off the face that harms. No people check not really a total. It's gonna take the bottom half of the car. Just gonna take tires sailing. Dan up? Oh, well that, that back tires looking like it's not gonna stick around one. That little kid actually owns the truck has very upset. Not going. Wow. What a court workout. Give us topics and events. And we question his core heard so much at affects his timing on reading. Do you question. If the USA earn these gold, the United States men also play soccer though. Poorly compared to the women. What do we have here? They won four nothing. Boy this time. Oh, that was earned off the face of can't even celebrate it because it hurt his face. That's an goal intended. I guess a tangible your faces tangible. I do love that. We're getting in the men's soccer highlights because women can't just have the World Cup. We just talk about the World Cup. Maybe you gotta have the Gold Cup at the same time. Can I say something guy? Of course, what do you have to say? He. Our face. Do you these Kurt bowl or in batch swing? Okay. Now, we get to major league baseball we go brains. And Mets here Todd Frazier is batting. Call him the Todd father terrible nickname, and clearly thought that was going to be a fastball. Wow. That is terrible. What think? Think. It's not personal. It was good enough. I mean the and now you know, as a woman, I couldn't I played softball, so different. I think the key to good curve is at a curve that one pretty much was going outside the whole way it wasn't like a fake out. It was like here, I go. And then I'm gonna go it did curb was because I think he was he thought it was going to be on the outside corner. He thought, well lies answer the you the good curve bowler by while my father vigil respect. The question. Swing at Johns, Borio man, what have seen these guys having it worse swing? No. You have not bumping. I have. Oh, yeah. It was right chats good. Curveball my father. That is not my father, you know, would trim some shrubbery it just feels like I don't know what else to do woops that felt like. Do you question catcher so well are we're going to little league to analyze some pitch framing? I missed the NBA terribly. We're going to analyse literally pitch framing. Goodsell it. Well, she got right back in there that kids getting an ice cream after the game. That's what that is. That's like dad this week told me to do always spot it, no matter weird who have called the strike. Do we have a bad that all this up would have called in a strike? Watch this. Oh. Katie. That is the first time came. You see that it's one of our magical things in our library. Oh. Do you question these truck driving his job? Okay. We hope that there is a disaster here, but not too much of a disaster. Just one that's funny on television that harms. No people check not really a token. Oh, it's gonna take the bottom half of the car. Just gonna take tires, Dan up. Oh, okay. So that, that back tires looking like it's not gonna stick around one. That little kid actually owns the truck. It's very except. Oh, we're gonna power through. Bad sounds. Wing. My father just said, that's the way you do it. I know something that they won't be able to pull out of a whole of that. She's got. She's on his moves. Oh this one oh, she's. Because the joke goes from right there. She's a little slow on the. Daring at a blank screen like I don't see it. I don't see it. Broke Castro the Cleveland their hotel, beautiful south beach Miami. To play the game, these doing juice cleanser, and is very crappy see on. Oh, okay. It's a juice. Florian's another juice cleanser. Those same thing tells what's on television tonight, we'll tell you for intrigue. Tonight on mass in Phillies nationals. I am interested in this because what is going to be on max. Scherzer's face he is supposed to start tonight, even though he broke his nose doing this during practice. Punching around have hard. Oh, that is broken nose that pitcher can't feel good about looking stance after he hit some handwrite in the is, like, well, wait. Well now that what you're most, which was Somerset with them. He's going to pitch tonight, even if he doesn't have a face Katie are you intrigue? I mean if he doesn't have a face, I'm even more in Chad love to watch no faced pitcher face off against who they play. Okay. Buffalo treat si si very intrigued. Butcher. Hicken. You know, a hero because PC helluva game can know anything loses what could've pitch because of my broken nose. Well, he can no lose better go out and win either way, you know, who's going to lose rice Harper. He's going to strike out about six or seven six or seven strike. Wow. That's day everyone else is getting ahead Bentley. He's betting six or seven times, but he keeps striking out. Tonight on Fox Sports west angels and Blue Jays. No not interested in this. But what if I were to tell you that Hunsel robe is trying to fool flagger junior with his leg kick here is up three one, one. Oh. Can do that. Wait a minute. Was that a hundred miles an hour? I just seem fire. Come on my screen and instead, a hundred miles an hour. Kidding. What? That is what it said. There was fire on the side there. I noticed the fire didn't notice the numbers totally the fire was exceptional Katie. Are you in Croom and thanking look, I think we learned earlier this week, I love a high leg kick before a pitch and really into that. So that's right in my wheelhouse. I'm I'm in on board or you guys can play that her first pinch disaster feel free to play that right now. I'll just keep talking so that you could play. Wonderful. You're you and tree. Oh CC got away for these game. Tonight there is they said player in the end use boy that he has been the MVP for many, many, many seasons. You know he can run. He can he can feel. He can do everything. His name is. I can I can remember his what's his name. Can you help me with this thing? I don't want to this. Guys them. Oh, by trail fish. Fish? Streaming on Phil Mickelson's Twitter fireside with Phil at least laughing. Now when I heard her talking about this before she was groaning is stomach. Yeah. Fireside with a P H. Let's go low everyone. All my God. Don't bars side with Phil, where I share with you. Some stories that have taken place throughout my career that I think you might find interesting. My first story took place during the memorial tournament back in two thousand six or so our second round was interrupted by weather darkness that we had to reconvene the next morning at around seven in the morning. I'm on the sixth hold. And the tour fischel is cutting a new hole. But we haven't finished our round yet. We have to play the same old location. So I raised my hands a hey, we're not done and the rules, official raises his hand acknowledges that he heard me, but continues to cut a new whole, so I walked further up and I say, hey, we're not done. And again, he puts his hand up to -nology. Here's me, but continues to cut the new hole. So Finally, I walked right up close to the edge green just on the other side of the lake. And I said, we're not done. He stands up into scuffed and puts his hands on his hips and says, someone took a in the Cup. Carry on. There's a big privilege gifts like golf is a long long. But then there was something at the end. That was worth it. I was out that whole time, especially because the candle out fine there's a low budget. They're just I get like you're on a toilet change the camera angle other than that. No, no. You intrigue CC three. I start to feel for what I did on that goal. You know because I had some fajita for launch on. Tell you one thing they were nasty. I knew that couldn't make it on time. And he finally fell relieve relieve room. Room, cools the bathroom restroom relief through. On TLC. You k- freaky eaters, can I say, I was really mean are we checking back in with amber, today because I was really mean to her yesterday. So I apologize. I wanna see. Let's check back in and see how things are close moon to that. French fries free anything but French fries triggers. Here's again, the front front free, our Jake want to see if she can take an even bigger lease and try MU taste. JJ orders variety of different vegetables ranging from the familiar like potato to the such as carrots, asparagus and mushroom. Classes? Try. Then it. And you're okay so what did you teach yourself today didn't teach me anything with none of this came as a surprise. Look really angry at us because. Put you what do you want me to do right here? I'm trying. My father and I react, the same way vegetables. I've wanted to see you know, when you watch fear factor, you like to watch people freak out about the gross things eating but you don't like watching them eat the gross things. This is like fear factor without having to worry about seeing them eat like Cowan testing Bob you drink. Oh, CC of retreat. But I tell you one thing low so be angry. You know, if I'm expecting to get some French fries. Somebody me a camera. Thought that you can take your and he's so right about that. I'd be angry crying too. That's only today. Thank you for watching. Dan's Nelson like French fries, every time we do the show every time.

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What's Up Doc

Highly Questionable

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What's Up Doc

"Hello and welcome to highly questionable. This maiden voyage over here. Poppy, who is this guy and stumbling on the is in your you don't have to respect them like that standing what do you like on the show today? I like talking about the Lakers and the clippers and what's going on in LA. Oh, look at him. He's doing some television for you. Poppy. Well, we'll then be coaches and executive be looking for one day watched the AA tournament. If only we had an NBA executive and somebody who was qualified doing such things here to discuss that we don't because he got fired from doing their job and his instead sitting next to us on television. But what I'll be looking for in. This is much the same thing that what these scouts will be looking for which is the three guys on Duke, and John Moran because he feels a little bit like Russell Westbrook. And those are the four guys that it seems like have the best pro potential. We don't want to talk about middle of the first round guys. We're talking about top five dukes got three of them. And Murray state's got the other. Yeah. I think John Marantz probably one of the most intriguing guys in this tournament. Tremendous f- lettuces them can score can really pass. I'm looking forward to watch more of him. Because didn't get to see a lot of during the year. Very exciting guy. I tell you who I'll be watching watching fairly as the team that predictive was going to win last night. He that's right. Stan he went to fairly Dickinson. Look at that poppies, always right? And they finally got an shea win. But it was a sixteenth seed beating another sixteenths there's that there's that part these going away to the final four I'm telling you Trump these ear. I win is one to stub their they're going to keep on winning probably I think they're done. Now, they have one more game. It was a great win and the rights over and the bearer of bad news comes writing here. Disappoints the old, man. How rude? Really? Yeah. You working in the NBA right now. No more credentials than he does. It's a lot more fun sitting next to you than working in the NBA. It wouldn't be if you drafted better. Shoot reverse have even want to the Lakers. Okay. If only we had an executive up here who could have had the Golden State job possibly, but instead took the Detroit Pistons job because of the relationship with the owner, Doc Rivers has a very good relationship with his owner Balmer, even though the Lakers have all the pedigree. They're kind of a mess in a mom and pop shop a family organization that doesn't have this relationship with its code. So now, they've said that Doc Rivers is going to be there a long time and contractually extended, and it makes sense he survived one of the worst scandals we've ever seen the owner getting kicked out of the league and having his team taken away for racism. He has withstood that and says he wants to make the clippers the place that matter I love that. He has the relationship with the owner that allows them to do that. I don't know if you can ever make the clippers the franchise that matters in LA, no matter what he does. But he certainly right now coaching the better team. And maybe even a better future. Everybody's talking about. What are the Lakers gonna put with LeBron forgetting that the clippers can go out and possibly attract to max level free agents? They could have the better team going forward. Why would Doc Rivers wanna move across town to the Lakers? I know someone who will be perfect for the Lakers to hire. He's last name. He's Van Gundy jet back. Yeah. He he has not failed recently. No, not as recently. Has the young yellow Roussel begun the start that the Lakers needed? If only we had somebody here on set with us who could have traded for the ngelo Russell and changes entire future in Detroit. If he had known anyone in the league known what we saw last night that the Angela Russell can outscore the kings by himself, and he's almost single handedly responsible for the nets being one of the surprise teams in the league. I don't feel like anybody really knew that the ngelo Russell was going to be any good otherwise somebody other than the Mets would have had interest in it. We'll Sean marks new and he did a great job bringing him into Brooklyn. But look people always assume that because the guy went to Brooklyn and became a really good player. He would have been just as good in LA. Maybe he needed a change of scenery. I think in the Angelo Russell's Casey definitely did. I think that's all helped him. He's playing great. But I don't think it's a bad Mark on the Lakers. I know what they should do that should train bro for him of the health at trait. You know? Oh my gosh. Seriously. Seriously looked Dangelo Russell Goodyear. Poppy. James as maybe the best career ever can't make that train. I'll make a trait in a heartbeat. Just like that. Who has more indefinable tell me that the ngelo Russell. Check. Gashed. And there's a good reason for that. Poppy, what do you think it is? Because the Angelo Russell's the greatest. Is going through lists. Well, he says lake say shall to their young core. Coby was talking in Spanish and talion while talking to my Greenberg, and what looked like a closet, but I was actually just an NBA merchandising store and Kobe's saying, basically, what a lot of people think which is that the Lakers core beyond. Lebron isn't good enough to bring you value? So that you should just get rid of them and start over. And I do think STAN once you've had this spectacular failure on your resume. The Lakers are no better this year at this point by record than they were last year. I do think you have to say you don't need much of anything that's around LeBron right now to stay. Well, maybe not. But they still do have value. Kyle kouzmine Brandon Ingram. Lonzo ball. Those guys have value. You can't just get rid of them. You're going to have to try to bring something back. Hopefully, better look, it's all about how good can you? You be over the next few years or you reverse course. And like, my brother suggested trade LeBron and start rebuilding. Again, the hell the van Gundy's are blasphemous with this trading. Lebron stop. Jeff trae, LeBron rebuilding again. That's it. No. You wanna do that you want to trading for the ngelo? Move. I don't think that's a hell of a move. No, no. But the Lakers have to decide what they want to do. I would think what they wanna do is maximize the rest of LeBron's contract in that case they've got to turn those young players into guys that can help them win right now. That's what he says every time he touched the bowl show. What he would say. The double make divide this issue by letting Tate Martell played immediately. Okay. This was a loophole. A bit of a loophole poppies very excited because the you is back in play. This is a good quarterback. They were trying to hide their quarterback for the last two seasons. And he's basically arguing legally that urban Meyer left, so I should have the ability to transfer and the NCAA agreed with and he was unhappy with where he was at Ohio State. But putting this out there is a precedent that can be set to be exploited in the future. If you care about the kids at all, you should be happy about that. Absolutely. I mean, this shouldn't even be a question should he be allowed to play? They should be allowed to play when they transfer. We let coaches move from job to job with no penalties whatsoever. What's good for the coaches should be good for the players if they want to move to a situation. It's better for them. If they wanna play at four schools in four years, that's totally up to them. This is. A great precedent. Let's hope it continues. I can get stand started on the NCAA. He hates the NCAA. He calls it the most evil organization. The history of sports. I it's pretty close because I would just say their mission to me should be to take care of the student athletes, which they love to say, but in reality, they're just working for the institutions and really against the athletes and a lot of cases. A message for all the Alabama players, you know, the US up and for basis come down the faction in south. A lot of. Four seven. I'll go with you on the daughter. I went to the you went to. Stands developed three addictions since he got here. Three addictions, come on down. Knicks highly questionable. And this is who is the stand. This is Josh heart, Josh heart right here. Is that a shot or a pass? Go ahead stand. Absolutely. Bigger problem is Josh hard -absolutely, no idea stand. You are an expert in such matters having opinion, please is that a shot or a pass which one. Time to play again wishes. Jeff, we'll see here in the state. The question you give us topics and events. We question them. I wish your in Gundy was here too. Do you question if this will shot or pass? Okay. This is where we've come to with Laker basketball. They were playing the bucks and neither one of the stars for either team played, but the Milwaukee Bucks ended up winning. And this is who is this stand. This is Josh Josh heart right here is that a shot or a pass at sand. Bigger problem is Josh heart. Had absolutely no idea stand. You are an expert in such matters having opinion, please is that a shot or a pass which was it. I think it was actually a past. But I'm not sure Josh kit answer that question, then that was bad but have seen worse. Oh, let's see worse. Let's see Japan the game. No. Oh is that? What is that? I am not sure I do that is my first year in Detroit L ever, and you get sick. That was standing Gundy's defense was just gonna say force that. Question which dress over was more embarrassing. Okay. You guys might not know this. But we're going to put up a YouTube video right now, if STAN Van Gundy, he's got handled here. He's got handle where he can dribble. A basketball not just love handles. He's got those too, but he's got handled. So he's here to help us with these crossovers. What do we have? Here's Patrick Beverley here. What do you think of that? I'll come on. That's just clumsy Disney. Isn't it wasn't even a crossover? He just drove the wall. Donovan scott. And you're still right. That wasn't even a crossover. So this other one must be better. Let's see what we have here. We've got James harden. Who'd he put on skates. Oh, lord. Oh, he turned him in a circle all the way round. Look James harden does that to somebody once or twice every single night? So he's the guy who can make you look silly. That is how I stumble outta here on Friday, happy hours just like that on defense and just Brisa did that without traveling. Wow. Puppies, just hating. And he every everybody not realize Papi was a player hater, I really didn't. Question. Patrick Beverley played these off. Well, we are covering the holy hell out of Patrick Beverley on this show. No other place where you find it on the network that we have more Patrick Beverley coverage. Let's go back again to Patrick Beverley. Beverly? Still liquor gang. Just walk away on Ernest. Borgnine furious with Patrick Beverley. He's got wearing my shirt is he he's wearing. He's a stylish as you are. That's not insured at all. It's just the shirt. That's vaguely the same color. Do you question if the guy on the white shirt show? Okay. We've got a guy in a white shirt. He's in a slap competition we go out to Russia because why wouldn't you go out to Russia for a slap competition? Oh, wow. Really think nece slept competition at is it appears to be thing. Yes. Certainly thing to the guy in the white jury. Wow. And so the question is if we're honoring the question do you question if the guy on the left choked, really, I don't know if he choked. But he certainly went down. He didn't choke stand. The point of it would just to show you a slab competition from Russia. That's on my favorite slap. What? Wow. Acidity moving. Okay. I think this guy's head is gonna move. Let's say this. Better slap Stanage? Justice covering slap competitions right here on television with the rest of you. Oh. Just knocking out with the slap Diddy. Just dead. Oh xactly. What you just saw. Any question broadcast from the Cleveland, their hotel busy feel south beach. Miami them to begin these so happy that you run out of the playoff in two thousand and nine C. You did you tell us what to watch on television to we tell you for intrigued puppy love stand for that. Say gonna. Tonight on ESPN raptors and thunder surge Baca has a cooking show. I'm interested in this game. But I'm also interested in the cooking show. It's about hunger in the history of highly questionable. There is never been rounder set it usually looks like the number one hundred days just three zero up here. We love cooking shows. What do we have? Coming back next year. That's why Leonard. Yes. That's an excellent episode Leonard more revealing than you've ever seen him saying. Are you intrigued I am see the broadcasting crew is outstanding. Particularly the analyst Mark Jackson is great. Poppy. Are you intrigue? Oh CC. What kind of kooky chilies threat, you see it. Heard me sleeping. You know? What I mean? I see look you tell me if here it looks like some expertise with these bodies with food and those guys look in those bodies, what do they know about food nothing? Tonight the NCA tournament playing game Saint John's vers, Arizona state and North Carolina central North Dakota state come on the tournament has not started. It will not start until the real team star playing. I'm not interested in sixteen seeds. I don't have any interest in this. But Bobby loves those underdog stand. Are you intrigued in this? I am see look I'd rather watch. Chris Mullin the coaches say John's play one on one with Bobby Hurley to coach Erazo state. But with that not happening all watch the game. You know, what I'd rather watch that too. And do you realize how pathetic an indictment of these games that those guys are fifties? Lauper you intrigue all CC. I'm telling him picking up sound one. That's my number one. And then I'm going to south that God, I stay. You know what I mean? Those are my two picks for these still games KOTA states, not playing. He's saying. That same thing except it's not. Tomorrow one. Oh, five PM in Florida Orioles pirates, Bobby what is the name of the pirates catcher, what's his name? Cisco valley as my father loves those names. Let's check in with his workout. What's that look like? Okay. They're hip openers. I'm gonna go ahead and say, they're hip openers. I can't say that this is a hippo. I don't know. What is it? Okay. Very good. Okay. That is okay. That's going to be his doctor stronger. There are a lot more efficient ways to do that. Okay. Very good waste of standing Gundy's time saying are you not buy that workout at all? I would love to watch for it. Cisco survey play baseball. But I have no idea. What that was. He's not interested in any kind of work out at all. That's poppy. Tree. Oh, CC very in too. But you know, what is my favorite workout, you know, between between two, you know, as my favorite workout. They want inside James, let's show it. We all. How does have the cliff? I knew they were going to show that that favorite worked out father really thinks that when he points to things they actually appear really thinks that we cover the secret for. Tonight on Fox Sports west angels and Indians what a cheap excuse to show you the manager of the Indians flying out of an airplane. Skydiving? Let's see what Terry Francona busy doing. About what I thought that would look like. San would you ever do this? Would you ever do anything like that? Poppy, how about you? Would you ever do anything CC? I wasn't really asking that. I just wanted to talk to you and watch Terry Francona cheeks like that watch. I'm here we got panic right there. That's very right there that hurts your stomach and now all your fear is in your mouth. Oh, yeah. Not the most flattering appearances for Terry Francona. Okay. I thought my head was gonna explode. And that you know, why none of us want to do that stand or you intrigue. Not at all. Okay. Very good. Like, you said he's not interested in the sky diving you already heard from my father prematurely. Let's them clip that way. That's only time. We'll have today. Thank you for what. Thanks to STAN Van Gundy for being around here with us wasting his time, we'll talk to you tomorrow choice. Thank you. Oh. And I watched that. Knew it was coming.

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Kareem To Cleveland

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Kareem To Cleveland

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Dean think that another NFL team will give you chance. Honestly, I really don't know the Cleveland Browns have signed I'm willing to get them to dream jobs. I do not believe people deserve second chances NBA rule regarding tampering anking player. Rest are not working. If you're going to tank at this point don't be so Dag on obvious with fans are complaining. What's the whole sporting just in Berlinger tweeted the system is broken these guys one three to four hundred million dollars nature. Baseball's economic system is broken. What you see change your perception any sporting events. Get this. Welcome to out side the lines. I'm Ryan Smith. He handed the largest baseball contract in history to Giancarlo Stanton. Why a former president of the Marlins says that type of big deal isn't likely to happen for Harper Machado. That's coming up. But our big story today the Browns signing Kareem hunt just over two months ago TMZ released this video of the all pro running back shoving and kicking a woman the hunt. Previously denied the incident occurred was released just days later by the chiefs that incident occurring in Cleveland hotel, last February now hunt worrying that Cleveland Browns sweatshirt fresh off signing a one year deal with the teen saying in a statement what I did was wrong and inexcusable adding and committed to taking advantage of the support systems. I haven't place to become the best and healthier version of myself GM John Dorsey explained the decision to sign him. I just want to let everybody know that we have done extensive research with regards to this case. This player and at the end of it and one thing we did find was he understands. Picks four accountability act that he agreed your sack that he committed his extremely remorseful for his actions by no means from an organizational standpoint is a guarantee of anything as we all know, you know, trust has to be earned in that has to be earned with the Cleveland Browns organization and the community of Cleveland moving forward. So this'll be a day to day thing in terms of earning trust. Now hot will remain on the Commissioner's exempt list while the league investigates the incident, and he has at least one player support in the titans. Johnny smith. Everybody makes mistakes on numbers. Knows guys, you know, second chances. So, you know, this is the best. This breaking news Justin Steelers wide receiver. Antonio Brown has officially requested a trade at according to our own Adam Schefter, four time all pro tweeting just moments ago. Thank you Steeler nation for a big nine years time to move on and forward hashtag new demands. Hey, let's bring in Mary Kay cabbage. She covers the Browns. She's been on the Kareem months story. We'll ask her about this one as well. Mary kay. What do you make of this news involving Antonio Brown? Well, if he's gone from the Pittsburgh Steelers, it certainly changes the landscape in the AFC north, especially if they have no levian bell. No Antonio Brown. I will say one thing. Even though the Cleveland Browns could really use a receiver like Antonio Brown. I do not see the Pittsburgh Steelers. Trading him to the Browns. Okay. Because that would be a lot considering what they have going on right now. Let's talk about Kareem on what's been the reaction from fans and from Browns players. Well, the reaction from fans has been very mixed. You have some people that absolutely hate this. You. You have other people that believe that he deserves a second chance not only in the NFL. But here writing Cleveland with his hometown team. So we're getting it both ways. Okay. And John Dorsey talked about how they've done their due diligence. What have and have they not looked into? While they've talked to he said multitudes of people. I did ask him however, yesterday if he talked to the victim he said he had not had a chance to reach out to the victim. It doesn't necessarily mean that he won't do that. She also has not press charges yet. But he's talked to a lot of people in kareem's life. Of course, no one knows Kareem in the NFL better than John Dorsey. He drafted him with the Kansas City Chiefs. So he spent a lot of time with him. He believes that he's a young man worth saving. So he hasn't had a conversation with the victim in this case. The woman who was punched and kicked. No, he has not. And I do believe it would be a good idea to do that. Get her side of the story. Also talked to some women's groups in town and see what they would like to see happen. Because really the truth of the matter with Kareem right now is he needs to rehabilitate himself in this community. He needs to become an asset to Cleveland, not ally ability you bring up a good point rehabilitating himself. What do the Browns feel that? He needs to do to be worthy of playing for the Browns of getting on that field seeing as though a suspension is likely. Well, first of all John Dorsey says he has a zero tolerance policy. So if anything else happens with Korean in terms of any sort of active violence, he will be gone, and I do think that that's important, but he also has to continue to attend anger management classes, which he's now doing I've also heard he's attending some alcohol sessions, which that may have contributed to some of these incidents of. But in addition to all of those things Kareem hunt needs to go out into the community. He needs to talk to kids. He needs to you know, he had a horrible upbringing here. In Cleveland, what he really needs to do is show other children that he if they can make something of themselves that they can overcome their bad circumstances. He also needs to do things with women's groups and above all he needs to prove that this will never happen. Again. You know, Kareem hunt talked about trying to essentially turn over a new leaf of trying to become a new man of having a program in place to do some of the things you talked about is there. Any more information about that actual program that the Browns, and he seemed to be working out? No, we haven't had a chance to talk to Kareem yet. But I do know that he's already begun to go out into the community here, and do some small things nothing that he wants any attention for and notoriety for at this point. But I think he will be very very active in the community, especially with school children. I think he will go out and and try to talk to them about their own circumstances. And things that they can do. I think he will be very high profile in that way. Okay. Mary kay. Thank you very much. Appreciate it. And let's for more perspective. Let's bring in USA today. Sports. Calmness. This Nancy armor, whose latest opinion piece is titled vanishing Kareem hunt from the NFL forever doesn't do hit them. Or anyone else? Any good want to ask you about that, Nancy? It's very interesting. You've come out very strong against those in sports who commit violence against women. But you right here that you believe is you get a second chance. Why? Well, I I've never been opposed to second chances. And I think the situation here was whether it was the Browns or somebody else somebody was going to sign Kareem hunt. So we can howl and be outraged about this and rail at the the NFL's apocryphal, but at the end of the day somebody who's going to sign him. So then the question becomes what can be done to ensure that there are no more instance with Kareem hunt and his Mary Kay said that he goes out, and he talks to the community and shares his story and works with kids. So that we don't have other cream hunts going forward that I think is what the NFL needs to hold the Browns accountable for and I think the public needs to hold the Browns accountable for that too. You know, it's interesting when he was signed I thought about Reuben foster so many people were upset that he got a chance to get back on the field with the Redskins and how the Redskins handle it. What do you think the differences between Ruben foster and Kareem hunt? Well, I don't think we know yet. But I think that first of all. There seems to be more of a recognition by the Browns that this can't this is not just another signing. And it bothers me that Dorsey had did not talk to the victim though. This was not an intimate partner episode of violence, but still, but they do seem to recognize that they need to provide a support system for Kareem hunt. And I hope that they do that. Because one of the things that people have talked about is that when Reuben foster was Alabama. He did have a support group, and we could see how he behaved there, then he got to the forty Niners and the didn't necessarily have that. And look what happened and the same thing with one when he got to Washington. So it really depends on what the Browns do for Kareem hunt. You know, it makes me wonder is there a point with athletes committing violence against others where you say, you know, what this is not something this person should be able to do again, and your mind is there is there. Some sort of point some bright line approach to that. Yeah. I mean, if you know if we're talking if somebody has committed murder committed. Yes. I do think that there are lines. But I don't know that you can necessarily have a hard and fast fast rule, and the thing is too. And I pointed this out McCollum, just not signing. Kareem hunt doesn't make the problem. Go away. Somebody in some part of society is going to have to deal with it. And at least now with the NFL. You have an incentive for him to behave better to get the help that he needs to break the cycle of violence will that happen or not? I don't know. We'll see. But and that's the thing the NFL and the public needs to hold him and the Browns accountable. What do you think the NFL's role is in all of this? Well, first of all, we will see what happens in terms of suspension as Mary Kay mentioned cream is still on the Commissioner's exempt list. And Roger Goodell said last week at the Super Bowl that they were nearing the end of their investigation a suspension is all but certain, but I think the NFL needs to tell teams listen, this is not we're not gonna. And continue to let this be a free for all that if you sign a guy who is has prior acts of bad behavior, and does something again, there's going to be a punishment. I suggested a third or fourth round draft pick or losing your revenue from a home game something that is going to make these owners, not treat episodes of violence as no big deal because that's what we've seen so far. Okay. One quick thing. A couple of seconds left. What do you think about the Tonio Brown news? I'm not surprised just given how things had seem to to break down. But the question is going to be you know, who's who's gonna take him on it? And what are the Steelers going to be willing to or what are they going to demand to in exchange for him? And we'll see if that if that price is going to be too high for some people to pay shall see Nancy. Thank you very much. Appreciate it. Onto the NBA where it seems very little could be done to stop teams from tanking these days. Remember those anti tanking rules the league pass before last season. One of the main changes the top three teams have equal odds for the number one pick AK as I on picking rights supposedly to disincentivize teams from going all in on the tank. The result though, teams hone acknowledge it some half dozen teams seemingly are doing some form of tanking to improve their lottery arts. So it's welcome in ESPN bay reporter, Brian Windhorst to talk about this. Also, the host of the hoop collective podcast so Bryant we had these new rules to prevent against tanking. And it seems like they're not doing anything. Why is that? Well, it was a couple of different reasons. Why teams tank obviously, what we all pay attention to is taking for the top pick. And this year the top pick is a very exciting player. So you certainly see a handful of teams three or four at least clearly going to try to get that number one pick. But there's other reasons to tank Ryan and one of them is to just keep your draft pick. We've seen this year after year it's not necessarily to get the top two or three but to give given the top five or to get in the top seven of the top ten. We saw the Golden State Warriors cake blatantly to get the draft pick. They became Harrison Barnes one year, for example to get in the top seven the Lakers several years in a row only kept their pick. If it was in the top three, and they clearly or tanking this year we have four teams that potentially could keep their draft pick. If they fall under a certain level. The Cavs the Mavericks, the clippers and the grizzlies and all of them have made trades recently that you could argue have weakened their teams. Now, they wouldn't necessarily come out here and saying they were. Tanking, but you watch their actions and you start to wonder, so it's a it's a myriad number of reasons. And it's a multi level issue at the end of the day. If you're the Knicks or you're the balls or you're the Cavs. You're not going to necessarily be able to improve dramatically through free agency. Although the Knicks harbor big hopes the best way is to get Zion. Williamson and if you're near the bottom it even at fifteen percent instead of twenty five percent, which is the difference now at the very bottom in winning the lottery, it's still a lot of sense to go for was this what the NBA had in mind, though, when they decided to change the rules. I think the NBA knew that this was not going to be a panacea. And there were still a bunch of teams that weren't sure about it. The Oklahoma City thunder lead a charge to try to get the measure defeated because they thought it was a loss for small market teams. Who will never have the opportunity to to go for it in free agency. This was maybe a half measure, you could say it wasn't designed to completely eradicate it. It was designed to minimize it. We're in the first year, I guess over the coming years, we'll have to watch and decide whether it actually does anything yet. And we'll have to see if the NBA does anything about it or has any changes? Now switching gears because we just can't seem to get enough of Anthony Davis. You actually wrote a column on ESPN dot com about the Lakers chances. What do they need to do differently to get back in the sweepstakes? If they decide to go after him this summer. Iran. I think the Lakers are hurting right now we saw Magic Johnson say over the weekend that he didn't think that the pelicans acted in good faith, but in all honesty, the Lakers have to make a pretty big decision. They have to decide whether they want Anthony Davis or not they want to continue to try to get him or not a magic set over the weekend that the team didn't want to change its plans and wanted to chase a free agents. But if they sign a free agent this year, even if it's not one of the highest level free agents, even sort of a second level free agent. They're gonna take themselves almost certainly out of the chance to sign Anthony Davis in twenty twenty and let's say tear the team apart. And so if the pelicans don't want what the Lakers have on their roster now, and they very clearly sent that message that they don't the Lakers needs. It may need to spend the spring after they're done with this season looking at trading their players for players at the pelicans do want maybe making looking at three team deals, and that's something that didn't happen and these the Goshi nations, and maybe the pelicans aren't interested in doing business with them. Right now, but maybe that'll change in the spring. If the situation changes, and we don't even know who's going to be making the decisions for the pelicans. So this Anthony Davis situation with the Lakers is not over the emotions are raw right now. But getting at the Lakers is still something that's out there if the Lakers choose to pursue it. Second chance we'll see how that goes Brian. Thank you. Well, coming up with those ten year deals for Harper Machado, looking less likely. We'll talk to a man who doled out one of those big paydays. Indeed knows it's hard to find qualified candidates when you're hiring. It's like finding a unicorn, but when you post your job on indeed, it's easy to find people with the skills, you need nurse practitioner for plus years experience acute care certification. Indeed has a huge pool of amazing candidates. And screener, tools that help you? Find your most qualified applicants an entire shortlist of unicorns. Now could a fifty dollars credit to give your first job. Posting premium placement at indeed dot com slash credit. Terms, conditions, quality standards and usage limits apply. Additional terms online. Welcome back developing story involving a former Duke star former NBA player Corey McGinty has been identified as the former Duke player accused of rape by a woman who has also made similar allegations against Virginia Lieutenant governor just in Fairfax, the New York Times setting childhood friend of the accuser, Meredith, Watson and social media messages Watson exchange with another friend that say a fourteen the fourteen year NBA veteran raped her twenty years ago at Duke, and that school officials did not pursue Watson's claim at the time now for its part. A spokesman for Duke says the school is in the process of gathering information about the policies and procedures in place at the time of the alleged incident, and whether they were followed but getting has denied the claims in a statement writing I have never sexually assaulted anyone in my life. And I completely and categorically deny any such charge. But Getty was removed from last night's clippers television broadcast on Fox Sports west with the network saying they are looking into the matter. It's a major story in the major leagues. They're big league free agent signing failed with pitchers and catchers from twenty two teams reporting to spring training by tomorrow, there appears to be little movement on the free agent front talking about the big name ones. Like guys like Bryce Harper and Manny Machado or Dallas kaikal Craig kimbrel. And this is not lost on the growing number of players voicing objections. To baseball's free agency system yesterday. Justin Verlander tweeted, one hundred or so free agents unsigned system is broken. They blame rebuilding, but that's Bs. You're telling me, you couldn't sign Bryce or Manny for ten years and go from there seems like a good place to start a rebuild to me. And Evan longoria. Weighing in on Instagram calling the situation a shame adding as fans why should value for your team? Even be a consideration. It's not your money. It's money that players have worked their whole lives to get to that level to be deserving of bottom line fans should always want the best players and product on the field for their team and John. Pitcher, Jeff, some Marga floated the idea of moving up arbitration a year earlier to get players to free agency. Sooner adding striking is the last thing you want to do, but you have to be willing to do it. But I think there are other things before then that can get the ball going the right way all this despite record revenues for major league baseball at ten point three billion in two thousand eighteen yet players seeing their second lowest cut as a percentage of revenues since two thousand six according to Forbes. So let's bring in David Samson who while president of the Marlins signed Giancarlo Stanton to a record three hundred and twenty five million dollar deal. David great to have you with us. So that kind of deals not going to happen anymore. I don't think so. But certainly Harper Machado or maybe told by their agents that they'd get to beat STAN I just don't see it happening right now with the way the market is playing out. So it was that deal wrong with the time. No, not at all. We wanted. Stand to be the cornerstone of the franchise and it worked out with the six year opt out that he could use after six years and remember not one of the years got him to as a free agent the level where even Mike trout was a free agent. So I think that deal does work out because Stanton is a different special type of player. But did that deal affect the way teams do deals now? Are they looking at that saying because of that deal and the things that happened from it? Well, now, we're not signing those long term deals anymore. No, I think you'd have to look at maybe album pool halls or Jason Heyward or you Darvish or some of the other players who simply are not working out with these long term deals. Remember, if you forget the names just put player a and player b next to each other and put their value their wins above replacement any stat you want analytic or otherwise it's going to be very hard to discern a player who makes one million and a player who makes thirty million. And that's what owners are doing. They're not looking at names anymore. They're looking at value. Okay. So you tweeted recently in response to some of the folks out there who were tweeting. There is a problem that there is a problem then will not be fixed by players systematically tweeting about the broken system. The reality is players in agents have to adjust to the new to a new reality. So in your mind. What is that new reality? They need to adjust to. Well, the new reality is simple, which is right now the players have unrealistic expectations about what they're worth is at the top level. The days of thirty to forty million dollar players that Zach rankings of the world, those just those contracts don't work. They don't make sense. So what the players are doing. And I get it. They're taking their opportunity to voice their problems. But it's really not falling on on. It is falling on deaf ears because how can you comprehend the difference between twenty million thirty million forty million what these players in agents have to know is that with analytics younger player should get paid more. I'm good with what Jeffs emerges said, let's go a step further. How about free agency after one year? We would love it as an industry to let players be free. It really. You're no problem because then you're paying for performance. And that's what should be the case. Wow. So you think owners would actually go for something like that try to move it up? Try to have that kind of flexibility. I think if I had to go get Twenty-three votes back in the day that I could try to do that. Because right now, so many owners have been burned by long-term deals that haven't worked let players get paid for their performance. So yellow Christian yelich has been tweeting about you you guys going back and forth before and he did he had the feeling that you're sort of anti player in all of this. He tweeted a lot of this. But what do you say to that? Well, I first of all Christian, and I were texting on the side and tweeting on the side doing both at the same time. He's a great guy, and he's got a contract that he would say he's being underpaid right now. And I would say that he guaranteed life changing money for himself. And now he can go get more when this contract's up as far as I'm concerned. It's not rhetoric. It's not anti player. I'm not anti player at all the players are the product without players. There is no baseball forget replacement players you need the best in the world. But you have to manage their expectations about what they should and could be paid in a free market. It's a very tough thing to do when players feel like they've been playing all this time for the big pay day. And it's not happening. David so good to talk to you. Thank you. We'll be right back. Let me tell you without Pete who loved hockey and always wanted to play in the NHL Pete played since he was three and begged his mom to let him stay on the ice. Why some nights he even slept in his hockey skates? Pete practiced and practiced until one day when he was forty seven Pete realized he just wasn't that good. So he threw his skates in the trash. But then he heard how DIKO proud partner of NHL good save money on car insurance. So he switched and saved a bunch. So it all worked out. 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On The Past, Present and Future of Hockey

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On The Past, Present and Future of Hockey

"You're listening to an LA kings podcast for more episodes of this and every other kings program visit L. A. Kings Dot com slash podcast and welcome in to Fox and faust the podcast on this week's episode a little bit of optimism. That hockey could be returning a little bit of optimism that the NHL draft could be moving up and the nineteen nineties and especially the goat and not talking about Wayne Gretzky as we welcome in to another episode of Fox and Faust podcast. Ola High. Make Komo is star Howard. The Spanish lessons going. That's way too. I'm doing great. We've wear any Any new verbs that we've learned and keep it clean. No the verbs are. I've actually taken a back step. I think it's going to benefit in the long run. I think I have to really just go back and review the ones that I've already been learning and then I'm just doing some book learning myself by who what when where. Why how get through those? I try to go through that type of stuff. I think the the APP amusing. I don't mind saying dueling go is very very helpful. It is very basic so far gets into layers and layers and layers. So I assume I could be going for six months on this but You know it goes through travel or go. Shopping goes through restaurants and stuff like that. But I gotta go back to basic so I am picking things up with my ear more. You know the fat in trying to listen to some Spanish. Tv stations in how? Everything is run so seamlessly just so. It's a beautiful. Just beautiful a but because it runs seamlessly it's difficult to get separation words and then it's difficult for me to break down the sentences. I hear it live so making some strides but I think two steps back might help me move one step forward. Okay gotTA gotTa keep the fun? We got to keep the funding before we can move on to the other stuff. I will say last year at the L. A. Area Emmy awards caveat caveat. Ea Just obliterated the competition they want. I don't know how many Emmys They were they. Were really on top of it. So it's actually Kinda Fun to watch Spanish language TV here in L. A. I gotta say for the first time in weeks. I am optimistic with no guarantees of a completion to the NHL Season of the playoffs. Whatever the format might be but I feel more and more optimistic that the La Kings will be involved in a completion to this season. An even if that is still months away even if we wind up being disappointed and have to start from scratch again. Even if we're waiting till next year we can hope and that is better than nothing all and Jim. I want to get your your take on kind of what we've seen evolve over the last couple of weeks before that. I want to thank the prominent news breaking reporters Chris. Johnston Elliott Freeman Pierre. Lebron Darren Drake or Bob Mackenzie Greg Gerski Emily. Kaplan I like the whole compendium without that daily drip of reports. How would we feel today even if an announcement from the NHL were imminent about their plan to restart without the hoping without the kind of surrounding Build up how would how would we have felt over the last couple of weeks without that to keep us thinking and hopeful very simple very simple answer. That goes back to most of my away. Apply Things Life. Go back to my training. Of course I've talked about struggles with anxiety and thinking ahead in uncertainty certainly feeds that. But I go back to the ever presence rule number one only control control so. I don't worry about that stuff. If it comes back soon it comes back soon. I certainly worry about people's jobs including my. Oh I wanted to get back going but I am not going to bring myself down based on an uncertainty something. I can't control all sounds very very good in theory. When you apply it to real life it becomes more difficult but for something like that. I think If we go back on our podcasts I been pretty optimistic from the get-go playing some games. I thought initially they would go right to play offs now like you. There was a poll just came out today with players involved anonymously and you know they were. They were talking about some regular season Games into a playoff situation. So I think it they would treat that much like a preseason going into a regular season because I'm not sure how many games they're talking about. It's not the whole schedule so I'm not sure how much playoff spots will change in that scenario but Yeah it looks like they want a few practice game so to speak which would be regular season games before they go into a playoff scenario. It might go deeper into the summer than I expected before. We get started deeper. No maybe in August start something. I mean it might go deeper but I think and the predominant factor in the poll. That just came out today. It was an athletic poll. Was that the players wanna plant. They want to play vast majority. There was a question to be asking you. Just Cam this season right now. And that was by far the lowest response rates for from the players. They wanna play. I'm glad to hear that. Yeah and you know what was interesting to just reading again in the athletic We're taping this on Tuesday and came out and it really seems like you know you can understand too. If a team is closer to the play offs there's more of a a willingness to play and want complete the regular season but I think what's interesting too is understanding The economic variables. And I think there is a a general understanding throughout the NHL of of why there is a push and why even the NHL. We'll talk about this in a moment. But why the the League is trying to move the draft. Why they're pushing for a completion of some kind. It's it all has to do with the economics and the overall health of the game why there's a push for a long-term labor deal in all this the to the extent of the NHL can stay relevant in any way. The League is about to undertake the largest television negotiation for American TV rights in its history in the next couple of years and to the extent that they can stay on television and stay relevant even in local markets. It is huge for the league. And I'm not talking about a dollar today. I'm talking about a dollar two years from our three years from now when hopefully we are through all of this stuff. So here's the question then. If march was the month that wouldn't end April was the month that just flew by seemingly that presents a bit of a problem and I wonder if optimism is to continue. Do we need these ideas to become reality sooner rather than later? Are we up against the clock here to get this done to get this season done and start that process in the next couple weeks? Even I think I just listening to and I know you didn't you were not you. Were not going this way but if we never get back to fans in the stands would that not increase. Tv ratings. Potentially you can't go watch live. You'RE GONNA TURN INTO TV. So maybe they don't want to the go that thing will go through the NHL has relied on live date more than most sports so both will be very important just another thing just To touch on something you said times when we hear what is planned to go forward especially from the economic standpoint as you were bringing up to rethink. Its the older owners only. I think we've both talked about Alex. Right right the players want to and then in that poll they want they want the economic. Yes they make by far on average way more money than the average person the same time at the same time their career averages at five years so any year. That's out is known. You might not get it back. The kids are growing kid. Eighteen year olds are going to be nineteen. They're going to be taken the job so just it's just interesting and that's why it's it gets very very I. I think I'm back to what we were talking about earlier. Maybe it's just my own mindset. I am trying to take this step by step. I'm trying not to go into every different scenario. I will take a look at things will get into it. Mid I think the draft why they want June I I'm not I haven't seen the the data behind that I haven't seen the proof. I'm sure I I'm sure they're doing that. I'm sure they're formulating the great ideas and reasons why they want it done that way. But I'm not really get. I'm not really losing sleep over it. I do believe they're coming back and I think that's that's what I want right now and I think from our standpoint. Yeah it doesn't really matter in what form I think. We'll leave that to to those who have far more far more of a stake in the the ultimate outcome and even today we're at the beginning of May we are still at least a month and a half away from theoretically having games players must return conditioning must begin training camps Matz commence and this all assumes that the League has full proof plan to remain in relation and complete these games and have a television audience. So it it's there are so many moving parts and I am glad you brought up the idea of you know how. Tv numbers might be impacted because both of us have been watching over the last couple of weeks. The last dance and it's garnered more viewership Or higher viewership. I should say than any other. Sports Documentary That ESPN has ever put out and it's fascinating to watch this ten part. It's you know brilliantly done I don't think enough praise can be heaped on how they've they've put this documentary together. The nineteen ninety Chicago Bulls First of all Jim yet like how? Are you enjoying the documentary? And then I've got a question for you. I am a one hundred and seventy three percent agreement with you on way of input together. I know they put up the start date correct because of what we're going through now so I can't imagine the sixteen eighteen twenty hour days that some of the others have been putting in to to make sure speed it up I think I have a different perspective on it than most because to a certain extent I lived it rush similarly where the Kings Gretzky at least in our sport so I was playing against playing with doing community relations with broadcasting when the iconic figure of our game was around so I can see a lot of parallels on what was going on the last dance players. Leaving teams are being traded from teams. When do when do you start the revolt? That's the one thing that is. Alex has come to my mind. It's it's known him. If you do Jerry Krause you break it up when they're still winning you've done it too fast. If you're Dean Lombardi and you wait too long. You're wrong there's no one here. There's no win it. It's Kinda like I think. The edge goes to the Bulls in. If you're still winning why break it up? I mean if you're still winning the whole shooting match. I'm talking to winning championships. So that's what you know everyone. The common common saying is it's better to rebuild too early than is too late. You don't want to get caught but just very interesting to me. How the the the relationship? Obviously in the Bulls was not great between the Front Office and the players at the time. But I think there's a lot of us say a lot. I think there are some twenty twenty hindsight going on right now. You know it's interesting you bring up Gretzky. What what were some of the Apparently in terms of did he have his own security around him did he. You know what was the media frenzy like Jordan? Every time he's there he's mob it like what what were some of the things that you notice that were maybe similar and some that were different with how Gretzky was in. La was who's a spectacle everyday not not the same volume but there was a scene in the last step that reminded me almost exactly. And that's pulling up late to a hotel and having autograph seekers. They're talking to three in the morning regrets with do that. He would know it wouldn't be for the rest of us will only be for much like for Jordan That that scene just really ought to Mile K now been through that I think some of the pre and post game media. Scrums were much higher volume with Jordan. But if you broke down into percentages of how hockey is covered I then. Gretzky's percentage would be the same like his hockey getting get as much volume as basketball but Wayne to a big Pie. He took a big share of the Pie A lot of things going on like that. I cannot share story. It's turn when they were talking about Michael Jordan. And some of the things you do for the charitable aspects duty aspects. Know who needs an autograph by my uncle's brother's Dog France? And you do something for the I remember we were. We were just. We were planned on a press conference for tipping to promote the Dayton beneficiary of tipping and also joined the team and believe me that that that would show his impact more related if you go back then and take a look at the money generated. Dan even compared to now. I'm talking to twenty years ago. But Wayne's participation just through the number through the roof but I was in communications at the time and the plan was to have waned go to the to a hospital children's Hospital Los Angeles and be the main speaker for the press conference. Well it was my responsibility to get him there. I was in community relations. Practice a culver city and it was supposed to drive. Make sure he gets are anyway forever. Happened practices over. And I can't find you keep in mind before. Cellphones can't just pick up a phone call. I can't I'm going on relatively new the commute relations so my thoughts are less on a press conference in more. My job is not being well done. I'M GONNA screw up big big task here because we're not gonNA get Wayne there so it got to the point. I think the press conference was starting to now. It's like one fifty. I've gotta get. I've gotTA leave call receiving Goethe Hospital. I just have. I don't have Wayne. Where the heck is harming. I'm just pulling my hair out and drive up to the hospital. Go Up to the floor Each standing there chatting with all the doctors and nurses in wage Elia Press conference starts. Boom he just goes and he is so good so just the awareness that those players how I remember Wayne going through autograph lines in the morning you would sign something for someone after the game. The same person would be there waiting to Choose morning Over the next one you had to pick and choose to many right. When he made it to that hospital you could bigger sigh of relief in life. But he just have that sense. They know their import. They know that other people are relying on them. Think it's something that they understand. That's on and off the court and one one thing that stood out to from the last dance was how exhausting it was for Michael Jordan to have to have to be on the Times. Did you notice that with Wayne that there was a similar exasperation? I mean it may have been you know in in in private in short moments here there and you know what there is a vulnerability when when you're in that kind of situation for as long as Wayne was and especially jumping into the LA market Did you notice at times that while he would never show it publicly much like Mj? That Wayne was similarly exhausted by that. I think one way and I came here. It was the opposite remember again at Culver City the practice facility where he after practice he was just out on the street walk. You know just waiting for someone to either drive whole meth or waiting for a and no one was around. So I'm going. This is different for him but that changed a change in La. That was early on a news. Move here I think you notice it reverse when you get a chance to be with him. One on one contact away from everyone else or team context where there's only five or six players around. Then you notice how he is much more. The guards guard is down. You get to see a player like Wayne or Michael Jordan. You know when the guard is up in the guard is down and you get to see both of those you understand that yes there toll. There is a strain. It is a responsibility are compensated for that more so when they go into the endorsements compensated even more reason to accessible the excess ability to be there but the get behind closed doors of a beer or two and then you know you see the true true the unguarded personality come up. I'd be very curious to know what Sidney crosby feels like on a regular basis with this because when we go to Pittsburgh every time it is a media frenzy around Sidney crosby but at the same time he makes himself available to every single person who walks into the room. This is the guy who is right now the undisputed probably big star player in the NHL. Alex Ovechkin and he will leave time. They'll just sit in his locker room stall and just say is everybody have what they need. All right we're good I. I would be curious to know kind of his thought process on on handling any twenty twenty-first-century since because there wasn't nearly as much in social media demands and things of that nature would teams where they want you to do a quick photo shoot here. I'm sure they're endorsement deals. We saw the the Michael Jordan footage from the nineties and Wayne had his commercials of locally and nationally but I'd be curious in the twenty first century Sense how that is changed for a star Athlete light signatures like Sydney Cross with Sydney Alex. She stays away from the other elements that you're talking bank. He stays away. He is asked to do given responsibilities. You're like you were talking about. The teen has social media responsibilities. So I'm sure he's asked to provide content for that even if it's just a sound clip or bite or something or you know having cameras. Show up where he's giving no clinic for kids or something like that Those cameras would have been there for back in the nineties but Dan ability to communicate that to the rest of the world is completely different. Now as you mentioned with social media I I think I think Sydney is a pretty. He's he is a very conservative in those areas. He doesn't really put himself on. I think sometimes he's criticized for that Wayne was like that too. You know where he wouldn't really go on the Lam with I think. I think your point is will take a lot of the athletes. Nowadays they do go l'amour because it's it's just part of their culture now. They grew up with social media. They enter it now. It's it's the lower it is different and I think Sydney for one is still I would put him. He hasn't bloom yet into the social heats. He's a late bloomer. He may never ever go there he. He approaches that way. Here's a question and this is the first thing that came to mind when watching the documentary and I'm GonNa give my take on this first because I I think I love to hear how yours contrast with regard to the last dance. Is there an era of kings hockey? That you'd love to see a last dance style. Documentary made about and my take on. It is this. I don't know of any era necessarily in kings hockey. Where you've had a situation. Where team was together for that long period of time and had an opportunity to reclaim a greatness of some kind either with a conference championship or division title or getting the Stanley final. And realistically where I think. A documentary or some sort of story like that would make the most sense and actually quite compelling. Is this group that remains with Copa Tar and Dowdy quick and Brown Carter. This old guard that won two Stanley Cup. Titles if they can make another run in the next couple of years and I fully believe we'll get into this it. I fully believe that this stoppages accelerated the kings time line in rebuilding but if that group collectively can make another run that to me would be worthy of this sort of storytelling to see how a group that had been through. The wars fallen down hard times found a way to get back to the heights of the sport. I'd be fascinated to see a behind the scenes Story like the one we're seeing from the nineteen ninety Chicago Bulls. I think you could. It's not you're right. It's not exactly the same because a I don't want it can ever be exactly the same unless you win. Six for six finals joined did stir in the files and then being split up. When you're still winning the whole thing but a Tim Leiweke with kings and the Lombardi was the GM. I'm sure there would be some very interesting. What it's for one on there if you had has just and in different ways I have a tremendous amount respect for both of those guys different completely. Different contexts But I think it would prove to be very very interesting. I don't think kings team won two. There was a player that stood out like Jordan did or even like a Gretzky Like it was more of a group of guys as opposed to one iconic mill figure again. When Gretzky left the kings it would was not having won a championship. But there was some animosity you know it seemed to me going on at the time led to a trade which direction this team going so you could have had that but again you don't have the championships around the nurtures one other one and it's only it's my dealings mostly with Bob a Jack Kent. Cooke era now that would have had the Lakers involvement to not only the kings but you know Marcel. The oncoming was a huge factor way. It happened but just you know the the building of the forum than Dr Bus takes over all that era. There that you know the kings would have been involved but more so as a younger brother to the Laker so to speak. There's always been a connected history between the two franchises. It is I mean I I don't want you know. Say Too much about it because it separate ownership structures but it is nice to see when the kings and Lakers Come together with their co branded nights or you know ways that they can both be in the communities together and I. I look forward to the opportunity when the kings and Lakers can do those things in Tan. Because there's so much intertwined history between the two franchises It's it's a fascinating documentary last. Anson if you haven't had a chance to watch it sit down it's very binge -able it's super compelling it's highly worth and and. I hope it gets some sort of recognition Down the line much like the OJ. Made in. America documentary was able to weave in the history of L. A. and race relations and politics and stuff away from the field Like the documentary is able to to capture a lot of different angles of the the Michael Jordan Bulls in the nineties. What Alex I'll say this again. I felt they lived it to a certain extent. Moore's an observer but one wildcard is Dennis. Rodman that's true. I don't think I think there's a thirty for thirty on him separately and I don't think I went through anything with the Gretzky era or the that had a rodman involved. That's that's where it Kinda gets a little bit. You're telling me nobody on. The team took a little ninety six hour trip to Las Vegas just and were allowed to come back. Nope no problem. I think they should've listened to Michael Ratio. It was not a forty eight hour trip again. It's it's highly highly recommended that you guys Listening a dive in and watch this all right. Let's get back to some hockey topics here. The two big items. That seem to be kind of floated around not only would the resumption of play. But the future of this sport Is how to deal with the NHL draft and then when regular operations resume. Let's say this season is either scrapped or completed regardless. How does it impact the salary cap? And how does it impact? How teams manage their roster's going forward. I'll talk about the draft. I because this seems to be the big topic kicked around in In front offices right now is the pros and cons to having an early draft. And obviously there's a lot that has to take place in the next month or so this is still a goal the NHL. We take this on. May Fifth are still. They're targeting exactly one month from now but in early draft. I mean not only sorting through all the conditional picks but also the fact that this is going to have to be done like the NFL. I'm curious Jim your take on an early draft and and all the things that we've read over the last couple of weeks and on whether we think this is Not only a good idea but palatable I am. I'm struggling not I'd like this. Obviously who wouldn't I love to sit down with Gary Bettman and build alien? I'd like to understand why they WANNA do it now. Why THEY WANNA do early? One compared the answer I know I know they do but balancing that with waiting for the season playoffs to play out in having it post I let me. Here's maybe I can go further. So here's what I've kind of connected it to is the idea that if we are to complete this season that the draft would-be the jump. Start to that effort so if it is in the cards that we're going to complete this season that the draft would be the first step in building attention back towards the NHL. I think it would happen regardless with NHL NBA. Whichever sport is coming back into action. I think you would get that anyway but I I believe that the draft is a good way to bring attention back as much like the League has been doing with these zoom calls with guys from a certain area like the headey Boston oriented caller. They have a goalie oriented car. They have a head coach or GM oriented zoom call with media. The kings have been doing that with. And you did one the other day with assistant coaches. I think the League believes that if you can do that with teens especially who pick higher in the draft top five pick that okay you can have zoom call with a new prospect and even on down the line with teams that pick two three guys that they want to showcase in front of their fans. Let's do the zoom calls. Let's get excited. Let's fill out our depth chart organizational if you will that's at least my take of. Why would be connected Is there a business reason to do it that early? Maybe I mean the rightsholders WanNa have some content but otherwise I think it's just a pure play for Trying to garner a little bit of momentum in terms of attention to the NHL. And that was my. That's what I thought. That's what I thought. Their thinking was and I have no problem with that. I don't argue that would I'd like to see and I'm not sure if they would be at liberty to release this but the thing I think would be. The closest parallel would be lockout restarting the season. Not The air that we have the full lockout and then went to the next year. The the long lockout restarting the season is there any historical data out there. That proves that something. They did to reignite attention. Is there something that you can put in front of me? That says okay. This affected our sport in this positive way in. That's why we have to do this. This this ignition point like you're talking about to restart and and that's I'm sure you know one thing I've heard over the years and I know he can be a lightning rod to certain people but I've heard this from people on every single side. Is that if you're in a room with Gary Bettman. You think you're the smartest person in the room. You're not Gary has extensive staff that he goes but he does like a lot of executives at that level unsure. He does his homer. I know he does but I'm not sure if he's at liberty to release that to us whether it's so that's why. I'm confident the dark. A little bit right here and that's why I lean to just starting up again will be enough. We have enough things on our minds as a society right now that we don't need that and when we do come back and all the other logistical things about you know. Make sure that the teeth no no. That's the worst case scenario the team that say we do play preseason games. Excuse me regular season Games before restoring the playoffs and there is a shift change and then as they said the team that wins the Stanley Cup. Also gets the first overall pick somehow. Because you'd have a non playoff team if it shifts that much. I think it's mathematically possible. I don't think it would be such a huge long shot. But so that's why I'm just thinking you know comeback. I think that's going to be with what's going on in our lives now. That's that's just going to be enough no the NFL draft. But they're not starting up again until a whole I. It could be a whole new segment of our lives. Where we're maybe we have some drugs. That aren't vaccines but they help. And containing or help in treating just our whole outlook. Their stadiums are mostly outdoor. Will that be in effect compared to live crowds and how many people will be allowed in Alex of? I think we're both assuming that if hockey does come back it will be to empty stadiums. Here's where I I think I have to put a little nuance in here. I'm not of the opinion that it's a zero sum game that focusing any sort of attention at least in our industry in you know the draft or something along those lines takes away from any other effort whether it be quarantining or Taking the necessary precautions to social distance. I don't see necessarily as zero sum game in fact I see that as a potentially helpful effort to provide some sort of entertainment Provide some sort of value to your business partners You know ads. Sales would be part of that Making sure that from these networks. They can recoup some of the promises that they made to cable operators so that they're not starting dispute saying well. You don't have live programming or programming related to this Property that you've acquired I think to the extent that we can provide even a small shred of normalcy. It's helpful And I look at it just what we were talking about with. Espn moving up production of the last dance. This was supposed to be something released in the summer. And they had you know no reason other than you know demand for some sort of new programming to move it up And they brought him the rights. I don't know if you watch this last night. Jim Korean Baseball Korean. Baseball's opening day without fans in the stands. And this'll be a fascinating topic for another day and to see how they handle it but they're acquiring something that nobody would ever really considered watching before. I stayed up to watch part of it last night. I wanted to see how they were doing it. I was entertained by live baseball Those who watch sports are I think in a different category than those who don't in terms of the entertainment product for someone sitting at home and watching net flix Or or whatever service you you choose your still craving entertainment. Even if you're reading a book you're still creating entertainment in some way. And the production of that doesn't necessarily take away from the life saving efforts of Quarantining social distancing and all all the work that our healthcare professionals are putting together on a daily basis. And that's where the balancing act you talked about comes in. We're not going to resume any kind of professional sports in North America unless we are completely sure every league is considering this unless we are completely sure that it is not impacting local healthcare efforts. And that's why the NHL has been so cautious in not wanting to announce too much that. Oh we're going in this direction. We're going in that direction because quite frankly like you said things change on a rapid basis but I do think that the draft is part of the idea that we can draw attention away from What we're going through on a daily basis and make it a positive in some ways like my first question I asked is this. Is there a need to make that change? Do we need to change the date of now caps? Okay there's no need okay. So now that we have that then why change and then go back to what you were just talking about. Which I'm sure that it might not be historical data in might be it might be projected estimates of and if if NBC or NBS C. S. or Fox sports if they are going to Mr Batman and his people and the Players Association also who who have big parts in this if they are going and saying this is what we anticipate this is will drive ad sales. This will get us back running. This is the kickstart we need a mall for. I'm all for now but I'm not going to. I just need that. I'm sure it's there and I'm sure if I did my homework. And Digging Americans say sometimes. They probably shouldn't release that information to us. It should be stated in the industry but I could see going the other way without much of an issue but if the kickstarter is needed them many Again I would be fine. I just want to see a little bit more. Proof. That's very. That's that's fair at now. One thing that I think would be interesting based on all the drip drip reports. That have come out is The the format to this proposed early draft going back to the old way that the draft lottery was done where you pick one winner instead of three and we've talked about this kind of offhand that The kings remember ended the season as we knew it on a seven game win streak which them down to fourth in the you know the draft odds behind Detroit and Ottawa's two picks but of the old format were to be used where you pick one winner and you can't fault. I forget exactly how far you could potentially fall. I think it would only be like one spot or you can only move up a certain amount. I think it was only four spots that you could potentially move up to The kings would still be eligible for the number one overall pick And would still be in a pretty good position to get it. I know there's a segment of of the fan base in L. A. That was worried about. Are we playing ourselves out of a good draft pick here but if if the early indications are true that you know the the League is looking at this sort of thing I actually think it would be a net positive for us here in l. a? And we'd have a shot at. I think any any changes that would be made would benefit any you know but we have to and Even to take it back to where we're just talking about about the draft and it's been thrown out there. I'm in complete agreement with this. Nothing's going to be perfect. Nothing nothing ever is perfect. But there's always you know. This is a different circumstance. This is new. This is groundbreaking. This earth shattering and so the plans and designs and you know that people are going to implement the best of the situation which is a very difficult one on the last but let's be accepting more accepting what's going to happen in the future compared to if nothing had ever happened with this virus and we were operating normally while it's not not why. Abbott normal plans need to be made like getting the Kings. The hideout drop possible exactly. I think they should just award the Stanley Cup based on The largest active win streak Before the pause I think that's the most logical option. Really you know no question. We could get back to another paraded so you can have afraid wait for crowds well. It's true. Speak speaking of that Fox sports west last week was airing the twenty twelve Stanley Cup. Final and then the prayed. I had never seen the parade broadcast in full. There are some clips floating around on Youtube but Thank me back. I know you were involved with taping some of the opens and some of the segments for for the programming last week on Fox sports west Take me back to your memories of that first parade which was centered in downtown. La and And what it was like to see the city in that way because there have been plenty of Lakers parades and it's been awhile since the dodgers one but what was that like to be a part of first of all from the broadcasting standpoint. No you you think you're going to work. It is not work. It's the it's might be the you know I've said it many times. My next day at work will be my first day at work because you know we. We do get some benefits in Persian Persian. It's it's different every day. This one was just it? Wasn't even it was nothing like work even though you had to prepare and you had to kind of go on. You're you're on camera for a certain amount of time and you're thinking about different ways and there's different segments and we're going from different venues back forth all around. You had to fill four hours of time but it it was not work at all and it just back to I ever. It's just the parade to me was the complete opposite to enjoy. There was no worry anymore. Have to battle. You didn't have to beat the other you'd already worn. Maybe for the first time in my life I I wasn't a player of course when the Kings just one recently at the end of previous seasons when I played the last game of the season it'd be over the next day I'd be thinking about the first day of the next season mind works. Criminal stopped anticipation with a parade. Did Not matter. I didn't think ahead to the next game the next season I didn't care. It was time to finally just celebrate. That's that's just what comes back to me. Unfortunately you had plenty of time because they had the lockout before the Kings GonNa raise their Stanley Cup banner in January the following year. But that's just involved another opportunity for Mike Bowl who is bringing the Stanley Cup around to make her stop in Redondo beach and have another visit with a big silver chalice. I would love that Spit you know what I want to get to this topic quickly and then And we can get to some listener questions after that but You know what I want to look ahead a little bit to next season it starts and this pause and it was asked recently was listening to a podcast with Jake Muhsin and he was being asked this pause help. The Toronto Maple leafs because they had such a Tumultuous Season Coaching Change. And you know just ups and downs. They had the emergency backup game. And all that you know a pause to help reset things and it got me thinking whether this pause and whether the subsequent reality that we're GonNa live in with you know maybe a lower salary cap or something else will help the Kings. I know we ended the season as we knew it on a seven game win streak but I am looking even further into the future than that to say. I wonder that the kings might be in a better position than most as we emerge from this with a tighter economic position. The kings next year have committed just sixty million dollars against the cap and some of that money isn't even real money and Jeff. Carter's deal I think is so backloaded that it's you know minimal cash so You know a small relative amount to the rest of the League restricted free agents. Going INTO NEXT SEASON. You've got three. Austin Wagner Nikolai Hawkins Sean Walker and you as Trevor Lewis Ben. Hutton Yokum Ryan. That's it no major pay days expected. Maybe Sean Walker but I could see that being. Moore's moved to lock them up long term. I think this accelerates the kings timeline to being a contending team because when they are ready to spend on a free agent or on player that they've developed or may be drafted first overall. I think that they'll be in much better position economically to handle that than another team. That might be up against the CAP. What's your take on whether this Hanno were you know? Nobody wants to benefit from this sort of situation but whether the kings might be in a better position to rebound quickly. I'm just GonNa go on the best thing of the sport because of the unusual nature of what's going on right now. We cannot punish teams. That are in trouble recant. They were vying for a cup now. Their plans were set for now and this is so unusual that they have to find a way to grandfather's not the right word but they can't just go to. These rules will have to be amended the salary caps structure. You can't punish teams that you just can't and I know the Kings are not not situation right now so it does go away from from helping the Kings right now in all fairness you just can't take that away from the teams that have built for two or three years and put it on the line made those trade at the trade deadline right the trades if they know. Were mortgaging the future for something. That's going to happen now. Those will be handled but but I do. I do agree with you. I understand where you're going. Your logic is dead on in how the Kings are. GonNa be less hurt by this out if I can put it that way as opposed to help exactly the help. There'll be less but I when I hear that I just WanNa cautioned myself in my own head going. If it's GONNA take time it's GonNa take time take time don't Russia. New Sects of circumstances might a speed up the timeline as you were saying but It's it's something where from where the P. A. in the NHL has to get together at a really think this year. Now finish the year next year two years Like a five year issue of how this one segment. Let's hope it's the last stoppage we have because of this reason. We can't again the first thing that comes to mind to me as you can't punish the teams that were just on the verge Unfortunate I think. A perfect example was that as Toronto with their their CAP issues. And the you know Washington's another team where they loaded up expecting to be a contender to win today and win even in the next couple of years there window is there You know the even with flat salary cap you know. They're expecting some sort of lifts right But if if things are going to change now you can't wait for the Stanley Cup this year. If whatever reason they had to cancel everything. Don't you have to cancel those trays that were made for any cancel may be fascinating to readjust something? Something's got that's that's why that's just another reason why you work as hard as possible being as safe as possible to award a Stanley Cup issue right. Yeah just untangle that would be an undertaking Unto itself all right. Let's get to some listener questions here. solicited a whole bunch Actually this this morning so we'll get to some of them this week. We'll get the some of next week. here's one that came up from Mike who asks do you think when it comes to overtime the NHL will ever consider making a power play three against two instead of four three. That's one of the quirks of the new three on three overtime rule ask added player than subtract one. What's what's your take on this. I don't think they're going to go to just. It's yes it's more. Open more open ice. How close do you want to just get to the shootout again? Exactly you going back to so I think for whatever reason no way way back even during regular season games when you could get down to three on three you would never drop below three even regular casualty. So they've determined not to be the minimum amount. I wouldn't fight that. I love the thinking. I I love the question being posed because it does make you think what would happen if but but I I'm I'm okay with adding the player as opposed to going out with you. I think some hockey purists were already a little bit You know irked when when the League adopted this three on three scenario and it looks less and less like the game that everybody plays but we understand why they do it I will say watching the the four on four twenty minute overtime from the Olympic final in two thousand ten. That was a fun way to do it and I wonder if that's a potential option going forward in playoff games in this. You know Environment where you need to wrap up games quickly. I don't know how and then strategy gets to win four on four overtime hit the NHL four on four. It was phenomenal especially interconference games. Where you're playing against the Who Care to you just went for then. Coaches started thinking all that points just as important another then it was that dentist down the three on three and number three on three. And it's still great but then strategy becomes involved with kind of gets a little bit lower scoring type stuff. So yeah those darn coaches everything Carlin bathed the asks. What restaurant do you miss the most from the road and why you go first this Mr Puncture restaurant you're You know one of the places. I take us in In Boston is Atlantic fish and I know you enjoy that restaurants where Went on my first date with my now wife I I enjoy the place that we go to in Chicago. Il Poor Cellino. Those is my two favorite restaurants on the road. Right now I would go favorite spot. Is Charlie Ethos in St Louis Yes whether it's it's very family. It's not it's just a family restaurant that's and then I'm GonNa go to the minetta tavern in Richfield. I think that would be very interesting. I just always burger joint. But it's early eight dollar Burger joint but it's a great expensive Burger you've ever had in when I say that. Just feel sad because it's always so crowded in their interest at the energy has a lot to do with those. Yeah that's the one thing that is going to be different for a little while until things get back to some sense of normalcy. As part of the reason why I think we we enjoy the restaurants that we do is for the atmosphere. You know. Food has to be a big key as well but I think the atmosphere and some of these places is unmistakable and might be unrecognizable at least over the medium-term who is that is unfortunate who is at Carlin bath. Carb eighth basically is that I've heard of her think she works in TV somewhere Let's see what else do we have here? that we had a similar question on when the social isolation restrictions are lifted whereas the first place. You'RE GONNA go. I think some of those restaurants especially in La you know just to support places that we've that we both enjoy we've covered Some of the restaurants were were missing. Think before here on the podcast. Here's one from Let's see from Rando If the NHL were to resume without fans in the arena. How much would that affect the players and the game play? I know there was an interesting article on. Tsn Jim about how it would impact. The broadcast like we would get all the chirping and maybe the non pg rated chirping that goes on on the ice and how that would impact what you might hear at home. But I have you played in an environment where they're not since junior right. Where where there were that few fans in attendance and you kind of have to some energy to to play. It's it is different. I think players would adapt very quickly. I think it would be I as Rando ends his question. The game play. I think that will be will not be affected that much and once the adjustment is made I will say at all obviously the over all game presentation and environment and motion which which is part of what random was talking about how that gets down to the ice level. Maybe let's just think maybe less chirping after whistles maybe less of that because the motions might be no brought down a little bit with the fans when you hear the fans. You get riled up. Who May lose composure? More so because of the energy building but I think adjustments will be made and once you get down to it now that they know what it's going to be more than once if they ever do get into a playoff scenario I think the intensity will be self generated agree i. It may be a little bit different again. I'm watching the Korean baseball just to see okay. How do the Athletes Respond without folks in the stands? And it doesn't appear to be any different. I would expect the same for hockey. I got one more hockey related. I'm sorry it won't be as good. It won't enjoyable. But like I say. Rondo ended his with and the game play. The game. Play will get back to somewhat of a normalcy. I will say that there have been plenty of Stanley Cups awarded and quiet. Arenas that being when you're on the road in the road team wins it but Nothing quite like What we would Potentially see this summer. I have one last question for you. Non Hockey related and I think a lot of people actually WANNA know How has the pandemic affected wine production and And I know there are many kings fans who are fans of your wine the Patty Nee has an impact I know agriculture's been one area. That has you know I guess. Been somewhat affected. At the periphery. And we're starting to see a little bit greater impacted grocery stores but what about for wine production. I think again right now. It's very cyclical very more so than most because Mother Nature Determines our cycle we harvest in fall. And that's when usually starts selling your previous vintages so that's dictated by Next journals force creates a fiscal year. That is usually so for instance without today we released our two thousand seventeen back in October of nineteen we sell eighty five percent eighty five percent of our revenue generated in that one month so we really and most of the industry is liked bath so where it fell within our fiscal year for this year. Not as much of an impact right now having said that tasting rooms closed restaurants and your sales to restaurants closed retail have have been determined to stay open. But you know the traffic is not the same going into a wine store wine shop so right now. The two thousand Nineteen Two thousand twenty fiscal year not affected but restaurants will not reorder again in the fall. Because they'll have inventory. Wine can age. So it's not perishable to a certain extent so the need for restaurants and retailers to reorder twenty. Twenty coming up is going to be less and for a lot of wine companies and brands and labels. That's a huge huge impact. I don't think the jobs of the agricultural workers will be affected that much until there is an effect in the demand but I think the supply will keep going the only thing you might say again. I'm just his lower prices right. You're going to have more wine sitting around so initially. Not An issue actually Reading an article from the NAPA newspaper consumption of wine is up forty three percent all right that news consumption. That doesn't mean mean new sales range you might be dipping into your seller more so than you normally would. How and a no getting through. The current fiscal year will be okay for Pattani right. Now we'd be doing wind dinners restaurants to introduce our wine to lukasz tumor someone who hasn't had a chance to taste pat before that's gone so hit not so much now but I think we all have to prepare that every industry is going to be affected. You know one thing that I we can both agree on in the interim as we wrap up here is if you have an opportunity to support your local restaurant that is open for takeout or delivery. Do it because the more that you can support them now even if it means buying a gift card now that you use in the future that's still cash that they have on hand even if it's not realized in their in their books from an accounting perspective The more you can support them now by ordering take out or delivery the better chance that they'll be around when things do eat and they can have customers and you can order a bottle of wine with dinner at that restaurant when things reopen and I would encourage you to do that even then if you have the means to to go out and have a nice night in order a bottle of wine because of the markup that they that they have on those. I would highly encourage it because it's those kinds of sales that help keep restaurants afloat and it's needed more so than ever before right now. We'll find a way to take care of each other here. I think it's it's going to be. It's GonNa know we really again. Even the fiscal year of has really not affected as much as baseball. Might not get a start so already has been right at already husband the late so maybe football. Maybe they're able to jump right back into it without much of an effect because it starts up in the fall again maybe but a Jewish ninety nine point nine percent of everyone else is going to be affected. Find ways in hockey industry to hopefully again. I just want to reiterate the players are in. We're talking about these things to. It's not just the owners again. We hear about the industry. We usually just take it or something coming from the owners while there's a lot of interaction between the players association the players and the owners and everyone is in this together. I have every reason to believe that we will get a lot more clarity in the next couple of weeks but until then A big thank you again to all of our healthcare professionals on the front lines doing the incredible work that they're doing a big thing you to Grocery store workers delivery workers. Everybody else who's who has to go into work. Construction workers everybody who has to be going to work police fire. Ems ETC Thank you for continuing to do what you do. That enables us to sit at home and wait for supports to resume until then. We'll continue to watch reruns that that will be a positive change. Alex I know there's any question in my mind that are For those people will be maintained after this crisis so we hope we have a little bit more clarity in the next couple of weeks on what will happen. But in the interim stay stay. Well thanks to our producer Jesse Cohen as always for For manning the controls here and putting together a podcast you can hit that subscribe button and get it delivered right to your device. All the king's men is still going Rainy Day podcasts. They've been putting out a ton of great stuff so Stay to those kings channels and again. We hope in the next couple of weeks. We'll figure a little bit out of What's going to happen this summer? 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On The 2014 WCF, Top 5 TV Shows & Post Season Awards

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On The 2014 WCF, Top 5 TV Shows & Post Season Awards

"You're listening to an LA kings podcast for more episodes of this and every other kings program visit L. A. Kings Dot com slash podcast. Jim I shaved for the first time in four days and it was weird. It was it was okay to just like you know let it go and then I shape averse time and it's it's just wow it's I didn't remember what it was like almost to be clean shaven and halfway presentable about you. Yeah I've been I've been I've been doing the same type of thing you know every two or three days four days depending on what's going on of course the the virtual games we've been doing all have to get on camera so that. Kinda makes the shave necessary although I've seen my partner unshaven announced so just just trying to keep it clean as possible. What is the longest you've been without shaving. Yeah I'd say I'd say probably about three weeks. That's a while ago now. But that's that's a while ago because that's when after three weeks at came in normal taller not white. Another white stay weight from an opera was. That was that in the playoff run. Where were you were growing it out? Unfortunately when I was in the playoffs Oh you know what we did we did. Do the twelve right. Yeah I was like right up tops in the league raising money so that was good. But it's your even back then. It was less gray and more natural. Now it's more white. Yeah yeah well. I assume that both of us have been doing a lot of TV watching and trying to keep talk a little bit here. I go I have to know. What are you watching right now? I'm watching right now. A rerun. I just finished the last night of the first series of deadwood in. I don't know if you're familiar with that serious. I've never heard of. It went away after about three years and it seemed they came back and did a movie but it sounded like to what I remember it was in the cast was in some type of contractual issues. It was an HBO series. It was about to just the new settlement starting up in the territories before the united before I think it was in the DAKOTAS before they came no actual states and territories and very very rough language. Very rough his wife was you've seen but I think that the characters in the development and again a little bit of history much like I liked historical novels reading. It's it's a TV series that brings you back to the old West so to speak and help people had to. You're just forming a new little town new settlement and how it came together so I've seen it the whole series before but I was. I really liked it so I'm going back to that now and that's what I just finished it last night so season we finished here in imply a we finished bosh season one on Amazon prime. And I I gotta say like a one thing that I love to do is watch for watch shows or movies based on places that I currently live or used to live in so I used to love watching New York based stuff and then Austin Bay stuff and I just got into Bosch and it's Great. It's very much l. a. It is real L. A. It's not like you know these stages and You know I know you watch. Ncis and whatnot but this. This feels gritty unreal. It's a detective show on Amazon prime. I highly recommended for anyone. Who's interested in kind of procedural stuff? That's a little bit darker and a little bit more involved. I highly recommend it. Now we've been talking back and forth last couple days of like stuff. Classic shows to watch so I gotTa know what your top five right now. Top Five shows go five. Shows go deadwood number five okay? So that's up there seinfeld number four. We have one in common. You go star trek the original car track number three. These are the voyages of the starship. Enterprise their five year mission to explore strange new worlds new lighter civilizations talking. Good lull man has gone before that is gosh. My number three number two the Sopranos k the number and C I S. I had a feeling you were going to say that. You're addicted to that show. It's a complete. It's a complete formula show. I mean the the the episode. The formula really doesn't change episode to episode but I think they've taken strides on. Know How they chill officer characters which I think other shows do not do on basis where to know becomes predictable I think the general themes are morals to the stories in the episodes and then just to me. Of course it's based on the navy and The scene shows they do every once in a while. That shows the respect and honor for our military all together and put together something. I find very entertaining to Nation to do that show quite a lot. I will say yeah. It's IT'S AGAIN. It's a lot of it you know. Gibbs's rules who's got fifty one out yet fifty. He's got one one rolls. Follow the rules. All right I'm GONNA give you my top five there. You Go Seinfeld. Oh you could pick up a random episode and not care what season. What happened the episode? Before just you just pick it up whenever the West Wing which is starting to show its age a little bit but still really watchable on net flicks. Narcos I the first two seasons. I need to watch the third. I need to watch narcos Mexico. I'm behind on that but I love the first two seasons. We both agree on that. Just finished Mark Alarcon's Mexico just finished it it's I think it keeps getting better. And then I've got the first two seasons of House of cards oneidas felt like it kind of went went off a cliff after that and then my ultimate guilty pleasure was twenty. Four ended on a cliffhanger every single week it was just it was completely farcical. Sometimes the plotlines and the twists and the turns and Jack. Bauer just asking. Where's the bomb all that stuff but it was totally my guilty pleasure? I haven't seen breaking bad. I haven't Seen Madman. It's probably on the list to try out during this little run. But that's my top five the house of cards thing there's a comparison to me with the NCIS in that how you know. The surprises of people being killed off that. That really get you now again. Ncis they just. I what I was. I signed up to go to their four hundred episode celebration but it was obviously had to be canceled mutton. So there's there's a lot of things but yeah with the House of cards did at a couple of years was very impressive between all of that. I think we've got a fair amount of viewer recommendations for TV shows. So what do you say we we dive right in and start the podcast? Shall we got it all right? Let's rock and roll all right. It is Fox and Faust podcast from the Mark Hardy podcast law in Playa Vista California. And from which. Where are you at in Redondo Beach? Jim I'm at the Patrick. O'neal oh my gosh. You Know Joe in beautiful redone Jimmy. I broke stub penalty you. He's been begging. He's been begging for a mention but he said yesterday he didn't want to be mentioned. So that's exactly why. What added exactly all right. Why don't we dive right in here? Coming up I WANNA hit on a couple of topics here One of the series that we saw on rerun this week from NBC Kings Blackhawks in twenty fourteen. That you told me. I don't know how many times the best playoff series you've ever seen Gretzky eight. Oh two that happened this week back about a quarter century ago and then maybe a little bit of a diving into award season We've got a couple of Thoughts on if the season were to end today. Who would you pick for each award? But I want to start with Earlier this week For that playoff series. I like I found myself watching it again and I. I'm not that big into watching classic games when they come on. But I I couldn't help but be sucked into game seven Kings Blackhawks two thousand fourteen. And I had to go back and rewatch a whole bunch of the rest of the games that series because so much of what the you know the the the lore around that run was okay. Twenty Fourteen and aimed at twenty twelve. The kings were stalwart. Defensive Team Lock it down. Excellent goaltending quick wins the Conn. Smythe but that was a high scoring series. You had five four six two. You had high scoring games in that series and game. Seven was no exception to that. What were your takeaways from that that series? That's I mean the way explained it before. Is that the two thousand twelve Stanley Cup. Kimmy defended their way the two thousand fourteen. They scored their way. I mean they had to score way more than they ever expected to. I assume they'd go back and say okay. Yeah they created some offense off of solid defense but just in that series to me. The nature was this and Kion who he went. When you tweeted out it was GONNA be on. John was one of the gentlemen working producing the post game show for Chicago at the time we shared the same truck so during the gins during the Chicago series. I would be in the truck in because all I'm doing is preparing for the posting. Then I'd be putting together clips and pulling clips of what we're gonNA show later and kion was producing for the Chicago. So we're in the same truck rolling no Through the first six games back and forth worth just at each other or ripley were back and forth where Chirpin we're GONNA win this they're gonna go back and forth but the way the series developed it seems like whoever took leads in. Games ended up losing the game so I I'll never forget in game seven early on Chicago takes lead and then I think it was Patrick. Sharps KNUCKLEBALL GOAL. That regained a two-goal lead for them and it was just after the kings were getting back in boom. This weird shot should have gone in but knuckled and it was weird and dipped about two feet completely fluky goal and early in the first six games. Now we'd be kion would be all over me. He'd be the he did not say a word and I was doing the thing I mean it got to the point where you just. Whoever you thought was going to win ended up losing in that series. They knew to keep their lips shut because the kings came back ultimately to win the game. But that that was it just the back and forth nature and yesterday was fills the physicality to but I would have to say the free flowing nature of that back and forth action and I know I've described the way I've described as the most exciting series I've ever seen. I've heard that from people that have no contact with the Hawks for the kings and they feel the same way I will say just watching that one game and the you know watching back highlights of the other games in that series. I I might just sit down and watch and almost do like a film study of the whole thing because we hear so often about the new. Nhl Right that it's high scoring and up tempo and whatnot and that series belts a lot like what we're hearing today that it was free flowing not that there was a poor defensive coverage it was just it was a high quality series there was a lot of quality scoring chances in that series and no disrespect to either teams defense. 'cause they got their based on defense. I was impressed. I was impressed. By how pence of those teams were and I feel like the Kings. Got A bad rap. Those years. Well they didn't score. They defended. They could score their way through games. Plenty twenty-five now. They had a good. They had been the thing about the Kings Lois series. I go back to the Blue Line. And how each pair seem to have stayed home? Guy Offense guy so that guy just opened up the offense of guy that offensive guy. Whichever was they just went so there was a four man atop was never just three it was four and again the team was built that way specifically to to give the green light to that demand but in a You've heard me say before. With Jeff Carter. I thought the best player in that series. The the room that was available Blue Line to blue line was was a little bit more wide open than most playoff series. In if you get that room to build up speed then you're and you know the game winning goal. Jeez if I can remember correctly not I remember if I'm not mistaken. Dustin Brown jumping off the bench in being the first man. In on the four check to the end up creating the loose puck Connecticut's back from our tennis and stolen front and all that stuff but just the explosive. These guys were going a hundred miles an hour and they were all out. Not that created the temple for the series that create with all the physicality with all the great goaltending with all the activation offensive and it was just the overall temple than the speed at which does games were played at by the way. If you missed it kings fans. It'll be on again this Sunday on. Nbc `Send Game Seven of between the Blackhawks and the kings are also showing a couple of other kings related things. The outdoor game I believe is taking place this week in. Maybe after. We taped this podcast. But they've done and they also have that wired series which is pretty cool from that so Kings Plus Fox. Sports West is is basically re airing the seven game win streak as it happened over the next couple of weeks so Check your listings on Fox Sports West for that as well? One one more Alex just yet. Yeah Game Six at Staples Center and just you can't have a great series without two teams. Patrick Kane took over that game. I mean the kings the lead he singlehandedly. Just every time he had the puck he controlled an especially in third period. He was so instrumental so just just how rape players elevate their game. This week is also a historical week in terms of Wayne Gretzky eight. Oh two passing gory. How to become league's all time goal score? This happened twenty six years ago this week. It was inevitable that this was going to happen and Gordy. Howe was in attendance and Commissioner. Was there what. What are your memories from that day? Jim and you know I I know that the the line I I love the line that Bob Miller us on this Wayne Gretzky's record book complete right. He had everything that you could possibly have. And this completed at all what. What are your memories from that day but again it it's as you mentioned. The surrounding factor was. We knew it was going to happen. Obviously you can't pick the exact moment but you know you know what's going to happen so they're not as much suspense in the lead up to it so when I look at it the it was more the broadcast effect anyhow as he analyst. I mean I had to make sure that I'm Bob asked me to. Should every time Wayne got on the ice? I was two point down to the ice just to just to alert Bob that he's out there just to make sure and then for me. It's make sure I'm not even close to talking when Wayne's kidding it's coin position you just you know. We all have roles right and your roles in your area. Call the goals. Bob's every once in a while it happens five times a year seven times a year where the dumb analyst is talking when a goal goes in the net usually offer weird turnover. Something happens weird. Hit something ago than your continental. You can't get out and then you screw up the call so that was in the back of my mind. So I was learning Bob to make sure he knew it lands on the ice and then basic silence from me the rest of that way to make. Sure Not GonNa Talk. If Wayne's going to score the goal now it was a fifteen minute ceremony. That took place now. This is right in the middle of the game. This this halted the game Like has there ever been a scenario? That your mind where this might happen again. I mean maybe when I if if I should say even though I've got going on whether ovechkin passes Gretzky in terms of total goals but I'm like that's the only other thing I can think of. That would pause a hockey game for a ceremony in the middle of it. We've seen it in baseball with home. Run Chases in a little bit easier to pause a baseball game. You're stopping a hockey game for a ceremony for fifteen minutes. If I'm not mistaken. They did it for Gretzky's point total team they did. Yeah so that was what Hank Aaron that you know. That's the one I remember you more than the the recent you know. He ended the game right. I'm not mistaken so or maybe not. I remember fans jumping on the field so it might not a person here wasn't alive. I remember that Yeah that's that's an interesting. So that's yeah. It's I think it had to be done. I don't think anyone had a problem with it. Especially because it's so interesting to me. That Wayne's idol was Gordie Howe and you know they played different positions. They played different styles but to have Wayne break his idols record. That just that in itself was fine. No problem whatsoever. Gordie's they're gorgeous following. It's that's that's a perfect. Stop the game back that everybody was their help that out and I don't think we'll see anything like that again. If Alex ovechkin breaks Wayne Gretzky's record. You'll probably see something like that but there's nothing else that I can think of in terms of hockey records. That wouldn't necessitate anything like that again. And maybe it'll happen but you know this stoppage is eating into you. Know Twelve regular season games for Ovechkin to pile up more goals in every single one counts. Hopefully you know they get a chance to finished the regular season in its entirety but every single one counts ver- ovechkin in that way So that's all of Read Hall Got Close Couple Times but still ninety two goals in one season Wayne. That's just a that's site at stuff didn't like it. I'm trying to think like what what was the most recent one sixty something in a season. Yeah I think Ari about the eighty six. If I'm not mistaken. Bread Hall may be at the same or eighty four. And that's you know when you think of it. That's pretty close. But then of course with Wayne he's the whole time. Oh yeah best passer yet. Does this going to? So yeah. How different era but even sells just ridiculously ever seen the eighty six Soviet Canadian series. I think it was like a candidate. Competent ended up being a best of three series. All three games ended up six five. Go back and look at that. That is you WanNa talk about the you know the Kings Chicago series. That series was six five all three games. Incredible Hockey Alex. You should watch that. That was highly skill. I will enough about the past and how about the present here because we've got This pause is giving us the I guess the ability to almost close the book on the season right. Because we're so close for Seventy Games for the kings completed and most of the rest of the League's at seventy one seventy two But they're all in that range. We've got a good body of work and I think it's. It's probably good enough time for if this season did end today. Let's pick up some awards here. Let's see if we're in agreement because I I had a tough time as I was going through and looking at award by award. I had a really tough time. Singling out an individual winner and it's not a cop out on my end I wanNA start with the Vesna trophy. I want to start with goaltending here because this speaks to me of something that's changed recently in the Nhl of is given to the goalie. Judge to be the best at his position. Right am I wrong? In saying there are no standout like purifier. Vis Guy should win it or they're no outstanding candidates this year. That just jump out at you. You're exactly and that'll be the last time I ever say it up so to harass leads. The league in goals against average as today but number number two is Jay Cowan number three Anton Khudobin number four Darcy. Kemper number. Five is Elvis. Moore's Lincoln's your top seven. Yeah I the top. Seven our backups. Yes Oh it's it's it's the share. Now they're sharing now. It's part of the normal situation. Were teams are looking instead of looking for the ten million dollar gold fender looking for one at six and one at four and then they're looking to go fifty thirty two the looking to go forty eight. No forty four something. Whatever mass author but just that's what they're looking to do and and that's that's what you're seeing those numbers that's the thing that stands out to me like one a one. B is now the strategy for most of these teams. But I'll give you my picture. I want to see if we're relying on this to. Maybe we'll agree. My pick is connor halibut. He is played fifty. Eight of Winnipeg. Seventy one games so far and with a team. That's just their Blue Line. Has been ravaged both due to injuries and the fact that they couldn't make any roster moves with Dustin Buffalo and in that situation. Hello Book has basically had to carry the team the entire year. And I'm I'm looking at all these other names down the list of he's the only one that kind of stands out to me. Yeah he kinda helped. I mean maybe he doesn't fit the exact category of judge to be the best at his position but in terms of aptitude and having to carry the load. He's top of my list right now. Your I'm going to run down very quickly and then I'll preface it by when I sell these. I do weight heavily to expectations of so. That's what's so for me Vassel Skis Number. Three at thirty five wins number. Two is ben Bishop just because of all things around them and my number one guy chosen by just for the hell of. I figured that was going to happen so I agree with you. I know the change in defense. But they had no somewhere free agents leaving something all the dust in buffalo thing and then the way. They started the way they came around. And then you see what I Alabama guy. I can't help but think that to CA- Rascal get heavy consideration. Because he has put together a great year in Boston expectations. Yeah I penalize for it. Because he's a great team so I- penalizing flap. Yeah but it's still putting together a good year on a team. That's right now in the driver's seat for the presidents trophy I'd also be my twos. Rask in Hell. Are there any others? That Darcy Kemper probably would've been the guy numbers ear and then just injury. It's unfortunate Yup. Yup that's that's the guy right there that again you know. They have Ron Tattoo who still think. He still qualifies a lot of statistical categories. Even though he hasn't played a lot to get to that position where they're sharing again. Yup I boy. I wonder if the season resumes and if Somehow Arizona is able to get into the playoffs because that ways have been on a two. It's unfair to say. Well you know if team didn't make the playoffs you don't get consideration like many of these awards but I'd still consider Darcy Camper. He's able the will that team into the playoffs. Should the season resume because he's he deserved it? Based on his body work over the course of the year the other team all their downfall coincided with his injury Yup thousand percent depending on Taylor Hall even seeing these lately right. You know these posts were like. Oh they're record before and after Taylor Hall. Well that's almost directly related to where Darcy Kemper got hurt. Kemp got hurt the very next game after they got Taylor Hall. It was right there. And that's why they're not in a playoff spot as an outlet. Let's move on here early on this season. You said it was John Carlson's norris trophy. Do you still believe that I still believe it and I still give it to him now. I give it to him by the hair of his Jenny Chin Chin that that was runaway. Early what about like Dougie Hamilton? To like He. Is You know injured. So you just didn't play anywhere near enough games to be qualified but Romeo C Carlson right there and unjust again ongoing. I expected Washington to have a good season but I think because of the struggles of a team that national had. I'm not putting it on your seat. All he's phenomenal. But I just have to give the edge to Carl. I wonder for a team like Nashville. That still in it right. They're still on the cost of the playoffs that they were kept in it because of UC. I've got Yosi an I. L- really liked him when when we saw him in January and I looked into just basic stats. No no advance stats here. But just basic stuff. Third IN LEAGUE IN TIME ON ICE. Second Points Ninth. And plus minus. So he's getting the lion's share the minutes for Nashville. He is on ice for more goals than he is. Goals against. And he's putting up a lot of points which I think has factored more into Norris trophy consideration. Now than maybe in years past I would pick Yossi and I know we should think about Carlson and the fact that he had a phenomenal start to the year and most likely will be able to carry that to the finish line but I gotta say like in terms of a guy that I when we saw him January. He's he's the type of player that scares you. When he's on the ice that he could do whatever he wanted with the puck and he could defend whoever he wanted when he didn't have the puck at that just it seemed to me. Uc was in that much control. Or don't use that criteria than in games against the Kings Karlsson with junk rate atop on that. Search through but yeah. I'M GONNA go again with the Fox standard prerequisite which has expectations who you think about when you think about Washington Ovechkin End You got Wilson up front. You've got up at four yet so now. I throw Carlson that to me. That's why that's why it gets the edge fair enough. Alright selke trophy is it as simple as Jerus- or burs run this does not feel like there's much of a sexy argument this year for one player over another Ryan O'Reilly with the Saint. Louis Comeback last season got a lot of consideration being the the top center on that team. I can't pick out a guy that's all that interesting to talk about the Selke conversation this year. Maybe with Philadelphia's run that was a little unexpected jrue gets the edge but I I can't really come up with a compelling argument either way yeah. It's always a tough one. I go to the origination of the award. It is evolved into the best point scoring Saruman. Doesn't get the MVP. That's what it's evolved into go the other way and I have three candidates and there's only one that fits the criteria point score. My Third Guy is Jordan stall the Carolina because his role now is shutdown that it. That's getting Selke as defensive forward so his role is shutdown number two. I do stay with O'Reilly I put him at the top look at his numbers. A liquidity does for the team. But to me I'M GONNA. I'm way off the board on going to nick would know Nino Yup in national. I think his role. You've got Shane who's had no salmon. You've got Johan Johannesen. Who is a cinnamon all these points? Other than Benino. I look at how we chips. In a look at his plus minus Face offs where. He's on the ice so again I try to target mine to the origination of the Sulky award which is defensive forward so I almost eliminate the top scores right away before I go to guy so Benino this year. Is it fifty two percent faceoffs? I mean is chipping in a little bit offensively and I is he. Is it possible to that? It's one of those where because you're not talking about him too much he's just there he's just solid. He does the job for you. I think it's because the the criteria used to select the southgate no longer to me lives up to what the origination of it was. So I'd say I'm the Cope wanted a couple of times but again again with copious at the underlying numbers. You would make the argument for him every single year. But I didn't get I think it's evolved into something that it was not meant to be when it was originated fair enough fair enough now. Here's where I want to really dive into a discussion. And this is I. Think going to be high level on what we value in terms of When we when we're looking at general managers and how teams are constructed Because next week I think will do Hart Trophy and like the League wide You know player awards but I the last one I want to cover here as GM of the year. Because I've got I've got an off the board Guy I want to hear yours I because I wanna hear what you value in terms of general manager and what a team should be constructed around especially given where the standings are right now so. Gm of the year. Who'd he out? I have my third selection. Is Ken Holland the material things on my bowl a lot to do with his selection as coach? So that's part of his job making and fitting pieces into what's going to happen in the Neil acquisition things of that sort you know. He's got two best players illeg our top players Leaguer to the top five best. Whatever you WANNA do with dry silent in mcdavid butter. I give him there I have a soft spot for my second. Pick and Brian mccollum by Rumi in Washington. A team that's maintained. It's no right at the top of the League. They're not a lot of changes. But maybe that's why he recently had to massage the salary cap He's done a good job there and to me the GM of the year is a Kevin Chevrolet. Off of Winnipeg jets guys. I don't know anyone was put into a situation that he was put into. He has a decision in the free agents that leave but the injuries and then the defection call it of Buffalo on your top guy. Take your number one defense off of any other team league. Can they survive? He's he's made a lot of little INS and out moves and for that reason. I GIVE HIM MY GM. And they're in a playoff spot. Right now I with you on Ken Holland being on my board. But I wouldn't vote for him. You can't go wrong with Jim. Rutherford in Pittsburgh all the puzzle pieces with their injuries. It crosby Malkin out. They LA- Tang out for a period of time. I believe so like all the different injuries they've had to deal with plus they've had the mix and match other pieces with injuries up and down the lineup. I but I'm going to go off the board with this one and that's why I wanted to bounce off you I'm going with Kyle dubious and I'm not looking at it. Necessarily for you know having to navigate one injury in particular or having to navigate one roster thing in particular. I'm looking at it. As he had to weather the pressure of that market throughout the entire year he had to basically have the gumption to replace Mike Babcock Guy with that reputation in that market. He had the dodge salary cap. Land mines all season long. He had to get through emergency backup situation and not hit the panic button and try to do anything crazy to try to shore that up and yet. Toronto. After all these ups and downs there still in a playoff spot. And I look at that and say that takes a lot of courage and a lot of Long term thinking to to be general manager in that market and not hit the panic button when everyone around. You thinks they can do a better job than you being. The general manager of that team wasn't on my list but for the argument that was just presented. I think that you presented very well. I agree with your points on sticking with what you believe in what he believes in. I think that's very important. I know he's considered one of the fancy stat type of guys now. Everyone has that but he was one of the few early guys that had that so we had to weather that storm to even with the stories that came out later about Mike Babcock. I'm not quite on the same page with him in that decision so I I really think that Mike is is the guy but even with the stories that came out that babcock that that wasn't necessarily the best move to get rid of them. Yes and he had all the reasons in the world to get rid of him. No the martyr story is I've been indefensible but Bigger picture taking everything into consideration Mike Babcock by believe would still be there but he definitely if he knew if he knew that story which may be. He did before he fired him. Then he gets more points on on your selection As far as the chronology of I'm aware of that story was not there until after the fact but I could be wrong and not to not to go to headlong because we're gonNA talk about Our Jack Adams picks next week but I think for Winnipeg in the REA. The reason why I didn't go with Kevin Chevrolet off is I feel as much as the little moves that he made. I I feel like so much of their success is predicated on Paul Maurice's style of coaching. You WanNa talk about steady hand and seeing the big picture. I I really feel like he did. A lot of the the Yeoman's work in Winnipeg of getting that team two weather that whole situation. Yeah I am but I also look to the Canadian market again in. Winnipeg than I can bring you back. Examples of how they are calling for Maurice's that's true. Yeah but appointed Insight him to an Extension Gel. That's that's where that's part of the standing around back. They didn't have a lot of interaction with Jerry West when he was with the Lakers. But the ones I did he he was he was the boss. He was single minded. Sure he took a lot of opinion. Went around and got all the information he could compiled together before he made his decisions but when he did he stuck by it when he made a mistake he would still. The mistake would not change his fundamental foundation. It would just be it didn't work. Let's find another way to get back to my foundation so unacceptable day off kind of a little bit there all right and next week we will dive into Hart Trophy and Jack Adams trophy all those kind of the war. So we'll we'll continue on with that. I WANNA get to some listener questions here As always we get a really good Set of questions from from folks Let's start with Connor who asks What are your pre game rituals on Game Day? Like as a player you probably had some but as a broadcaster. Jim Do you have anything? I know the ice cream is we. We've covered that multiple times on here and I know you're missing your staple center ice cream right is there. Is there anything else? That's part of your ritual routine That that you can't do without to get yourself ready for broadcast. I had way more when I was a player which now they look back at. Where foolish foolish foolish and only while again. I was dealing with anxiety and trying to figure out way. So what you do. Is You develop superstitions and that keeps your mind off of things but if I would do it again I would probably seek more professional help and getting more step by step approach to how they would handle that type of stuff but I am very routine oriented. I like to be on a timeline to eat by this certain time. Like to be a practice at this certain time. Do my notes at certain time. So that's I guess more routine than superstition of but that fits in I do enter certain doors at certain times or don't go into certain doors at certain times so I still have those weird things in my my back the back of my mind but a Hollywood say there is yes very regimented. As far as what? I do as far as preparation when I do that. Preparation when that preparation has to be completed to me a lot of my game day is just going through things in my mind because I like to think that the preparation is done well in advance so that I can just sort out things but then again it goes back to back games situations. Sometimes that falls apart now back are killer in terms of routine because a Lotta Times you playing catch up in terms of preparation I mean as much as I can anna. I'll I'll agree with you. It's a lot preparation in advance before you arrive. Game Day and I feel a lot less anxiety of being ready for a game When I have all my notes done in advance also go through the routine. I have to handwrite. Some people's broadcasters can have it all typed out or Can do their thing by hand. I only WANNA right out. Goals assistant points just in okay. Who's top scorer? Whose middle of the pack. Who hasn't scored a goal yet. This year Just to have that ready otherwise I liked to have everything laid out in a small Setup as possible. If you seen my note sheets you know that they're very very very very small type of You have to if it wants once. I get a little bit older Jim. I'M GONNA need to cut down on notes because you have to increase the font size. I don't think I can stay at seven point font for the rest of time. Okay so now I know where I'm going But yeah I I liked the only thing I handwrite is just that and handwriting lines. I've also gone through the routine. Now of memorizing lineups Instead of I used to try to do it well in advance in walk into the arena. Okay I've memorized them instead now. I'm doing it more. Like an hour before puck. Drop so that they are freshest so all right down the the line combinations as they are and try to Just by numbers and then try to write the names in there so that I have all the names numbers memorize. Sometimes we are playing Ottawa that that game before the shutdown we were talking to each other. Like can you recognize half the roster? Because they had traded away so many guys after Rostro. He didn't even know who these guys were. So that was a little bit of a struggle in terms of getting those names and numbers down is less important for you because you can look at them kind of after the fact but I found myself in that game five or six times just looking at my sheet. Who is that? Oh it's thirty nine. Who's that I've stopped? Which again I don't we have different job so I don't and as much time with identification but certainly as the play by. Play Guy. You have to do that so a couple of different Users asked In different ways however players staying in shape under these circumstances I know the NHL has been posting videos of guys Juggling toilet paper or you know playing with their dogs in the yard. But like I. I think this is along. The lines of how strengthen training has evolved a little bit? Because I I get the sense trainers And especially strength trainers have been focusing more on body weight and flexibility than they have in years past and I think players earn okay. They're not going to be able to put on a ton of weight unless you have a home gym. But I guess they're staying in shape okay with body weight and other exercises that nature. I think that has been a huge change in the way the NHL PRO. Sports looks at fitness and conditioning and the reliance on equipment has gone way down so now to even a cardio workout. I mean you can get it without a bike without an elliptical And it's all Josh's movements that don't need any equipment so if there's any time of the fitness evolution Timeline right now would allow the players in the NHL to come back quicker than in any other time before because they no longer rely on those types of things. I know that they can get it done without any equipment if only we knew those hokey fitness videos from the nineteen eighties would come true about thirty five years later. 'cause that's that's what I've been doing I've been doing a lot on TV. I just go to YouTube. Click in Gimme a low. I need low impact because of my hips and my knees but I want cardio absent no way you can't while you can have your forty five minutes hour doing it you can. There's no question about that. So Marcus Moshe one of my good buddy's asks When are we going to see a legit amateur suit up as an emergency backup? Goalie totally unrelated. One of the king's going to make me their emergency backup. Goalie will marcus. I'm afraid you're a sieve. So you're not going to be a backup goalie in the NHL anytime soon. But I remember you know when that whole amateur when the whole emergency goalie thing ended and the GM talked about it at their meetings. There was no change. I I don't know about you Jimbo I I get the sense. That teams might make the process of selecting their emergency. Backup a bit more stringent. I know the Kings did a a tryout but I dunno I get the sense teams are going to take it a little more seriously than they had in the past. What's your take on that? We've discussed this before. I know it's been a discussion for even before. The Carolina may believe situation this year. It was on the radar general managers. It is really one of those. Most you come up with a solution. There's a lot of times when you throw a question out. There can answers right away. This one it's a tough one but they are thinking about it. I would think they would probably make sure that. That selection is actually actively working out a certain amount of times a week. What's the level of the League? They're playing that type of stuff now. I I'm less familiar with this. I don't know if you have the answer. Do you know if teams have the capability of because right now. Emergency Galway's aren't paid. They're just basically given tickets to the game and you show up you you know. You're they're ready to go if need be. I wonder if some teams even though it wouldn't be mandated would put guys under some sort of retainer like we'll pay a thirty thousand or fifty thousand to be our practice goalie essentially Italy Ranford essentially. Does that job for the Kings right now? They need an extra practice goalie. The former CONN smyth winter suits up and stacks the pads. And it's it's fun to watch in kings practice but I wonder if more teams are going to go in that direction of having a of extra goalie on retainer who can't plays non-roster but I am not as familiar with the the rules and regulations with regard to practice players. Yeah I think that was in discussion with GM's again even before. The season started on pretty much aware that it was in discussion. But that's where you get to the stumbling block. Do you have to travel those guys now? Legal on the road with you do that. You need to pay them more money because their lifestyle all those type of things come into doesn't count against the cap it just a lot of variables but they're thinking about it. It is so rare but I guess when we get to that point where am determines a playoff spot. Then then you really start to think about it. I think the odds were like or the the amount of times there's like one out of seven thousand games where the IT actually had to take place. So I think we're okay with the system as it currently stands. Here's one from The History Guy. Who Do you think the stoppage helps or hurts? In terms of various prospects are veteran players Making strides so. I could see this question being an interesting one for guy like Alex Turcott. Who was expected to joining the Ontario Reign? Just finished his one only year at the University of Wisconsin and was expected to join the rain after signing with the Kings now. He has no ice time. No Weight Room. Time no nothing. Does this hurt guys. Who would otherwise becoming either out of junior or somewhere else and be expected to stepping it a little bit of ice time or because they're young enough they they might be able to just take a couple weeks and get through it. I'll just keep this one simple. There's no question at her. Is it on the entry and hurts? The guys that are near the end ice time will be hard to come by for a little while and until things loosen up just a little bit all right one last one. I'm going to end this with a non hockey. One Joel Asks Rolling Stones or Beatles. Oh that's easy for me. Not even close. Are you making me? Guess Pause I'm GonNa Guess the stones that's much do know me it's really. I went to a stones concert once at the Medal Lance and I would have not gone if the tickets were not complementary to the NHL radio. And how did our off? Who Happen to status statins stumbled into a couple That's not I. I love the energy of Mick Jagger live performance again. That's where it differs. Had Way more chance to see the stones live didn't have a chance to see the Beatles live but when I take a look at the entire picture and the entire the the the work that was put in the it's tough. It's tough comparison because the stones have stayed together for so long that in itself is phenomenal. But then isn't it also so impressive that the Beatles today are still as poss- still as popular as they are and they leave together? That Law Yeah I so I've gone back and forth because originally I was more Beatles because it was when you're growing up those songs are a little bit catchier and I guess more timeless in some respects Their whole library. That is but as I've as I've grown older. I appreciate the rolling stones a little more for pushing the envelope and Staying together which helps too but just that there's sound I think is a little bit more I want. I don't WANNA say complex. Because the Beatles for when they first came out were revolutionary in terms of the sound that they brought to the table. I just I. I like that energy right. I I like The edginess from from Mick Jagger and The whole group Yup. Yeah I'm going to go up. Bring it full circle. It's difficult to compare because again one of my top selections for TV show was Star Trek. Well Alex when that came out that was revolutionary as far as the special effects. Can you imagine now? It's not even close and all that you can't even but back then it was. I remember story Dave Taylor daughter came over to do stay with US Susan. I for weekend and she was doing a project in her project was on the first star wars so she had to watch it and you know comment and Critique Review. While she'd already seen a couple Luhrmann she went back. It's his. This is awful. This is you know the special effects were nowhere. Near what soap. It was tough to give an opinion based on what you know now compared to what was available then and I think your points while taking stolen Beatles the more I go back and listen to NC retrospectives on the Beatles that has given me more of an appreciation. Just listen to them. I know couple of pathway talk about you. Know How they wrote the songs and then of those types of things just yeah. The energy of the stones in concert is is good. It's like Mick Jagger. Gosh well we get a couple of beers in you. I think you can dance like just fine. Jim What what. What do we say we end on that note and Next week we'll have a. We'll have more on kind of end of season awards if the season were indeed to end in the. We'll continue to the work in some listener questions This this was this is good and I will end on this as well. Last week was a little bit Cathartic for both of us. Last week was tough it was. I think we're both dealing with the shock of this whole quarantine and stay at home situation. I don't know about you. I M feeling a lot better. I'm you know I'm getting out of the House and walking a lot. It's you know the weather's been more cooperative. I'm feeling a heck of a lot better this week than I was last week. Yeah I think. A lot of the basis for me is certainly uncertainty. Which of course drives anxiety and I think there are still a lot of things that are more uncertain but I think now it is very clear with the problem and the issue is and the challenges so that to me just makes things a little bit easier to handle Yup. We'll get through it and We we encourage everybody at home to Continue to practice social distancing and we'll get together So we'll see next week for a new episode. Keep hitting that subscribe button. All the king's men continues to put out new episodes as well and we look forward to seeing you again next time. Five everybody

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On The Suspended Season, Drew Doughty's Comments & The Listener Mailbag

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On The Suspended Season, Drew Doughty's Comments & The Listener Mailbag

"You're listening to an LA kings podcast for more episodes of this and every other kings program visit L. A. Kings Dot com slash podcast. Are you in off season mode already or do you? Are you working out to plan on coming back at some point finishing regular season? I don't even know honestly I I'm just working out. I know I gotta be and I'm and every I is saying motivated that part of the challenge one hundred percent I that's the biggest challenge You know because you're so boarding a lot at home I mean it's easy to go work out you got nothing else to do but You know we're able to be going out and doing other things. It'd be really hard to stay motivated Going into gym every day and then trying to work out of not knowing when he could possibly play next but because we have nothing to do more locked up at home. It's a pretty easy to get your work out there. That was drew doughty this week on a conference call with media first of all Jim. Welcome in how you doing doing great. Thank you very much for asking still finding ways to stay busy finding it interesting that the days are very busy and full of course not filled with the normal things we would be doing but no finding time to get your watch soon and do your Spanish lessons and do some podcasts. And do some other gains virtual games and then some zoom meetings with family and friends and so I think making the best of it. I think what you're talking about is exactly what your daddy was talking about. You can find ways to be busy but in terms of the the work aspects and for drew that is staying in shape. It is hard to stay motivated in this environment and and I think one of the interesting things drew was talking about this week in that conference. Call with media Was that there. There might be positives to this pause. He spending a Lotta time with his kids with his family They're back in London Ontario but being in the dark of win things are going to return like I know that one of my personal Challenges was I. I want to refresh all my notes from this past year. I haven't started yet and I know you've started Jim on your Spanish lessons and other things but like I'm I'm I'm finding it hard to kind of hunker down and start on that project. Not knowing kind of where we're at just yet. Do you feel the same way I think that are making. The assumption will not play another game this year and I think the most important thing that drew said the other day to me and there wasn't a long answer might have been one or two hours. But he was asked if the kings were in a different position meaning in the playoffs. Would you be thinking differently right now? And I'm paraphrasing or Definitely so that's that's the big difference for teams. That still would be considered playoff contender in the playoffs. And again I assume they still have to figure out a way to determine who those playoff teams are. I'm other proponent of going back to the fewest amount of games every team has point and go that way and take the standings at that point Might have to go through some tiebreakers or whatever but find your way to get it on that way That's where I think drew. Is I think that if the kings were in the playoffs he would be saying. And that's the great thing about drew. He tells you what's on his mind but I'm glad that question was asked and it was real relatively late in his conversation where he was asked. You know if the kings were a plot would. Oh yeah definitely different. And that's where I am right now. Can I also say drew acknowledged that he might be interested in broadcasting drew. We'd be interested in you becoming a broadcaster after your playing days because of that. Very thing that you're speaking of what's on your mind. He's very clear. And and incisive. I enjoy that and I know sometimes drew gets himself into trouble. He's a one man headline making machine and he certainly did that last week. But I think that's what we enjoy about. Good TV analysts. Right is that they're clear to the point and they say something that gets you thinking right. No question I I get. I think the way he sees the game is something since the first day I saw him at a kings prospect camp was before the main camp starred Ed. He was on the attack offensively. He ended up turning over. The buck immediately. Took a U-TURN and be lined right back without looking with. I was watching closely. 'cause second overall pick and he be lined exactly for the right faceoff circle in the king's own took the right angle and broke up the play. She knew exactly where the PUCK was gone. He didn't think he didn't have to look he. Just did it. You just react. So that's the thing. I think you could bring to broadcasting. Very few people. Could now the things that you were just touching on any doesn't have to change? He he could go by the way he continues. But for instance in the conversation you just had Carlson or Yosi. Well I go with Yoshi because this druce talking. I go with Yoshi. Because he doesn't have a good team around him. Well do you think next year? That's going to be national restroom when they play the game. Yes that same thing sitting there. They don't play defense so you know that's all those things were brought up. You WanNa hear the freshness you WanNa hear the honesty but when you get into more of a controlled environment. Maybe you change a little bit but drew as I said every single day since I've covered him don't change I love it and honestly it's just it's refreshing. I because you get something new each time now i. I agree with the general sentiment from the beginning of this. I've been of the mindset that instead of getting our hopes up and then being disappointed let's be okay with our baseline of not returning until next season. If we can return sooner great I would love. Everybody would love it but to expect as a baseline this season to be complete. I think would be foolhardy Wayne. Gretzky said the other day. He's optimistic about getting hockey. Played this summer and you know what I love it. I love feeling optimistic. That said it and this is a big deal for the league. The League is acknowledged that several hundred million dollars is on the line if they can crown a champion have playoffs this year. There are so many sponsorship elements in meteorites elements that are baked into this so there is going to be a push. 'em That's why in some ways I as on the one hand. I say I'm a little bit pessimistic on the other. I look at the dollars and cents to say. There's too much on the line to lose. I tried to have a positive outlook even when things are difficult. And here's my positive outlook if we finish the year on a seven game winning streak and we have great draft picks coming up this summer and from now until the schedule started next season. We have six months for this crisis to ease and get life back to normal fine by me. It stinks in the short term and there's a lot of hardship out there but boy I maintain that we're in the position where we in the king's universe had the luxury of time and I'm actually in some ways enjoying not having that stress Even though I'd love to see playoff hockey regardless of whether we're involved or not I just like to add to that and I think you you're missing anything there you said the league no hundreds of well the players also stand to lose a lot of money and then there would be salary cap ramifications. I'm sure they would have to come up with some emergency type of situation and redraft new rules at least for the following year with a salary cap because if it's fifty percent of hockey generated revenue. Obviously that hockey generated revenues GonNa take a huge hit. Which means are we gonNA go eighty million dollars salary cap to sixty five in one year? I think there would have to be some grandfathering in some different areas. Just because of the unique nature but I think there is a motivating factor first of all the League of just crowning a champion. Then there's the financial that affects both the ownership and the players are equally. I would say you know This is going to be an interesting discussion and I will get to it in just a moment but first. Why don't we actually get this? Podcast started in a formal way Jesse ready for the music and we welcome you into the Mike. Rusel MICKEY PODCAST. Loft in Playa Vista California. Alex Faust here with you Jim Fox broadcasting from today. I am broadcasting from the Mariel. Goose Goslin would say Canada Gore Slang. Studio here in Redondo Beach California so I love it. I liked goose is loose Coming up it is the thirtieth anniversary of Mike Crucial. Nikki's goal and the King's triumph over Calgary in nineteen. Ninety neutral sites have been kicked around but it wouldn't be the first experiment with neutral site games and much more on drew doughty and his comments. This week always news-making but I want to begin with kind of a personal question because it came to mind Last week it was two weeks ago. I don't even know what day it is anymore. But it was Passover and one of the questions that You know comes up around that time of year is kind of what are you thankful for right and somebody modified the question this year in the friends and families zoom online gathering and the question was what's one thing that you are okay with. That might be different. Post pandemic would it be self-improvements habitual change? I'm not talking about washing hands or being a bit more germophobic because I think we're all going to be that way. What's one thing when this is all said and done? That's going to be different for you. Maybe in a positive way no question. The answer becomes or comes to meet immediately. I'm sure that it will not be different than many other people but to me it is the appreciation for the people that are not that are on the frontlines and I think the medical industry to a certain extent gets our respect already. I don't know if they get our. I think there's a difference there but also then I'm going to the delivery driver. The grocery store clerk the hardware store clerk all of those types of people I honestly think there will be a new respect and appreciation for those people you know he or she is just not the postman or post lady. Who's dropping off the mail or the Fedex? Ups or the Amazon driver. It's not just the guy doing his rounds and getting through his day especially when it comes inaugural few had groceries delivered. We have now. That's the things that you you take for granted every day because in our society here we have an abundance of food and water and drink and other societies though but we need those people to get it to us and I think you know what that's almost a daily shot right now. I know it will go away a little bit but I don't think I ever lose that new appreciate I think the appreciation or the thing Habitually I'm looking to change is. I'm looking volunteer more I gave blood children's Hospital L. A couple of weeks ago and it was so easy You know at the fundraising effort and I'm sure. Many kings fans have seen Through like my old game notes that was easy mean just a little bit of time and I'm going through and I'm making the envelopes Yesterday actually and just you know what? Yeah it's taken a couple of hours to do but I know so many people are GonNa get joy out of this and it raised a lot of money. I mean all told I think we came closer about three thousand dollars including a donation I kicked in It was It was simple. It was easy I was reading the Eliot Friedman's thirty one thoughts this week. Michael Dell Zado has taken online courses in global financial markets. He's learning to speak Italian. You're learning speak Spanish Jim. I was surprised to see how much I think a lot of players. Because they've so much downtime. During the season some of them read books. Some of them watch movies. I think they're going to be a lot of players who appreciate the time. They spend with their family a lot of players who get to finish their college degrees. There's going to be a lot of self-improvement I I get the sense. Globally speaking from all this time by ourselves that we're going to take time to self improve a little bit more than we otherwise would have. I think there's also been a little bit more. Although I think in our industry or industry it's come to the forefront more and more of light but mental health. I think a lot more people are thinking about that and I think it will be an adjustment when we get out of this. What about the kids that the parents go back to work every day were? They've had their parents there every day. Twenty four hours for two months. There's going to be an adjustment there. Of course you know if if we can get back. Hopefully in the fall back to our kids are going to school again. I think that helps no trade independence. You get away from your parents. You're going to school but there will but I think there is a just a little bit of a stronger attention to to the mental health issues and how people are actually helping each other and you know what I think I'm finding now is the best way people are helping each other by emphasizing and just understanding that what you have a good day on the back just checking in with people and just you know. I think I think that's coming that's coming to the forefront just a little bit more it's I think in our in our industry it's been talked about way more in the last two years and you know the previous forty but I think just generally as a society. I think that'll be wireless positive set People will take and carry. Honestly when I'm hoping and I'm going to go on a mini rant here. I am hoping that in our industry the broadcasting industry More companies are able to pay it forward. There have already been incredible examples You know of of companies that have paid their employees through canceled events through the month of April. And I that ends. At a certain point you can only do so much for so long Nbc Sports. I know they're regionals like all those folks were paid until the end of the regular season. you know. Espn was paying their employees Fox. Sports is paying their employees. I gotTa say and I'm hoping this message reaches the folks in Baltimore at Sinclair who owns Fox. Sports West along with the twenty two other Fox sports branded regional networks. They haven't paid anybody. That's a freelancer since the NBA NHL seasons were paused. And I get that. There are financial implications. And it's hard to do that when you're not bringing in as much revenue but your cable bill is still being paid and money is still being paid to these regional sports networks and At the outset of this It didn't seem like there was as much of an effort to pay these folks. When industry-wide he was a standard practice to pay what was being called. Cancel pay From engineers technicians to graphics. People Audio Your technical directors your associate directors replay operators your Your utilities your stagehands. There are so many people who haven't had a single paycheck since March eleventh. And we've heard of companies that had pay cuts ours is one of them But I'm hoping that there's a little bit more attention paid to that Because there's so much that's gone and there is those people you just mentioned much like. We were just talking about renewed appreciation. I think if there's anything I've learned over the years is we can't do our job without we just can't even. It's it's as simple as Donna. Muscular or stage manager. Just someone in the booth at is support. That is irreplaceable. And then you went through the list of so many people that that's the one thing when when I go to talk to classes sometimes have usually no woman. I talked to classes. It's it's about on air right in front of the camera but I always make sure it's as if you're if you if you don't get the on air and finally think about how many different things are happening behind behind the scenes to make it happen and it you know what that's the best thing to me about. Professional sports live. Sports is that you know what for the most part at the end of the night we get through it without without many technical niche. You know and there's a lot of pieces a lot of pieces. That can go wrong so many times. People you're talking about are the people that make a right. Yep and this is where I I think for fans wanting hockey back like it's not just a throw Six skaters or five skaters and a goalie out there and You know have just two teams compete. If you're going to have broadcasting be part of it there are hundreds of people that are going to be involved from from that side So I'm hoping that as a as a country and you know. Companies continued to take care of their employees. Ag has been tremendous in taking care of their employees Else included over the last couple of weeks I WANNA go back to last week's comments from drew doughty And because there was so much in that little teleconference that he did One thing that stuck out to me and we did this The Fun thing last week with Luc Robitaille With his Virtual simulated game some legends involved that aired on Fox sports west back in the day. You show up to training camp to get in shape Luc. Robitaille is set as much the other day and I can only think about what drew was talking about with staying in shape and staying with a home gym you rented an elliptical Jimmy to try to stay in shape like this is going to be the most fascinating training camp in years. I would imagine right. Yeah it'll be interesting to me. It's not a fitness. It's the skating I think. That's the biggest issue. It may be specific. That's I know that if your I know that ninety nine point nine percent of the players that are of their right now are maintaining a high quality world class fitness program. Right now they're doing their no body weights muscle building tone in there doing some cardio Whether it's just running outdoors. Maybe they haven't done in a while and they've done ellipticals bikes with. They're doing that one thing. They're not doing skating. And I think that will be the biggest. That's why there will have to be a buffer zone. If they do come back we've talked about it a buffer zone which is a little bit longer than normal where they can just get the skating. Yeah this was The other kind of hockey related issue that came up I want to play this clip. So that you get a sense at home for kind of where drew's head is at because it's something we've talked about on this podcast before. It's how hockey has changed over the last couple years and how it may be really changed going into the post season. If it happens this year you know back in the game. Maybe that wasn't so fast but could sink the game You know they were on everyone's team because they're making the place and when you're a smart player with the puppy usually a smart play with the puck but now if you have a really smart player who can't skate. They're gonNA take the guy who can't think the game at all but can skate a hundred miles an hour so I I really wish game. We'll go back to where it was. I as a hockey players going up my whole life playing hockey I think that's type of game. I respect more than this running gun. Hope game and this is something. That's stood out to me because we've seen a lot of these vintage games being reared on. Nhl Networking Fox. Sports West prime ticket drew was talking. About how the League is changed even in the last ten years slashing cooking's been clamped down on it's more wide open. Headshots are down. Raised the point that the game isn't the same and you said to me. The game is almost too fast now. I wonder if it might be even more wide open after this whole thing and I could see where drew was coming from this point to me. It's not as much the wide open nature as it is just how fast things are happening. And let's face it. I think in every sport. You're striving for that. You're always striving your quarterback get that ball to the receiver quicker. If you're running back. Hit that whole quicker in hockey move the puck quicker baseball. You've got to throw the ball faster. You've gotta get from first to third quicker. You can change the game in the dynamics of a game doing basketball hall fast. Can you push the ball up the court? How fast can you take a ball receive it square up and shoot it all? Those things are skills and I would never ever want to take away from that. But with the combination of athletes getting better and rules opening things up that combination if you take both of those things in separate them. I don't think there's an issue when you bring them together like they happen brought together then it just. There is a certain helter skelter nature of the game. And I don't this. This is going to sound off. Like I can't believe myself saying it but it skill players should have a separation the reason they're skilled the reason the top of their their sport because they've been given something by God or Mother Nature or just by the hard work they put in and how they address certain things of their game and they've been able to hold it but now you're getting to that point where fewer and fewer a smaller percentage of the players can do that and it just. I Know Brian Burke who I certainly respect because he comes from a different era than I do but I just love his communication skills just love. He's talked about a two year. Get to a point where it's a little bit too fast and then when things are happening so fast is the art taken away so to that extent where would be him a more appropriate medium. Because I think going back and watching some of these vintage games and I'm seeing guys just getting murdered gang. Their hands chopped off getting their their skate. Slashed Like it's it's ridiculous. How the game used to be played? I mean it was. It was the opposite problem right. Is that if you tried to score? If you tried to to score goals you were going to get punished physically beyond what the rules were intended to do. And I mean you played in this era where it was far more violent. Like were you at any point kind of Sane Yourself. What are we doing here or was it? Just you're just in the mode of this is how it is yeah. I think that those thoughts became before I got the NHL when you're in junior at lower levels when it does get out of hand even more because players are trying to prove themselves that they can make it to the NHL once you get to the NHL think you've already established some type of okay. You've hit that milestone. You're at the top your biggest the best league in the world so you don't have to prove it anymore but of course you know there were still bench clearing brawls still. I think the biggest difference Alex in it's it's this it's the strength and power given to the players association not given earned by the players association. All of a sudden player started to talk about. How can we protect ourselves? How can we make this game safer? The players didn't have say before the slashes onto the hands. You're talking about that. Used to be normal guy that would target. There's no question that defenseman use use a heavier stick on purpose and when they get into a car before they made body contact they would reach out bang on the Red Sea. That's not hockey though. Because you're not if you're not in good enough position to make a proper hit on somebody and all you can do is just slash him on the hands. I I was watching a clip with Mario lemieux. Coming out of the corner and must have been slashed out five six times before making this brilliant pass. I don't know how he was able to do that with all the you know the. It's from that stick that he was taking. I'd just look at it like that's not hockey and I understand Jerus- point of view. I understand your point of view. I will take the helter just as a younger were all. Take the helter skelter You know a little bit out of Control version of the game because if feels like you're playing the sport rather than violently preventing somebody from doing their job in that way and maybe there is a happy medium in there but I just I love having a wide open game rather than one. That's clamped down on again. I I understand again. I'm trying to get away from wide open being acquainted with. I think there's a difference and I think like I said because the rules have changed at the same time that the emphasis on skill has changed. I mean again. You're seeing the evolution. I've mentioned it before June. The Bardi was a pioneer player development. Now players breakdown they break that down into five pieces Alexandra. Who used to watch? I don't see him anymore. Baseball Skills Guy. Oh yeah yeah well you go down bend your knees to receive the ball. Turn your show. Tom EMAND sqi there. You go he would do. That's what you're doing now on hockey. They're breaking down the game so taking the puck in the corner of taking it to the front of the net. Because you'll have a guard guy. There are five live breaks in that. Okay body position. I okay upper body lower body. We'd where's the PUCK? Is it shield once you get it. Open they break that down on attack. They actually work on moves which this is all great. I'm not but that's how the game is he ball. I used to attack. I didn't plan the move. I didn't practice the move now. They break it down my forehead. They do in times at all. They go to my back. It's all great but now all this coming together along with other the last long lockout where they came up with the new rules. All Great. The the scoring chances are up it. There's just and by no means is they're complaining going on here by me. I'm not losing any sleep over this just like say drouot up. I've mentioned that you before. I think you've been on the air. Where gets a little bit too fast? Brian Burke stock the boat. You know finding ways and usually when you're talking about those things talking about player safety. I think drew talked. I think I think it's got to the point now where we're past that. There was that period of getting used to things. Referees getting used to players players getting referees having rules and then having rules actually enforceable as opposed to stick up parallel right. You don't have to tug on the guy you're still going to the box hooking because you can't expect the referee to enforce something in real time that happened so you just have to look at the visual make recall. That's the best way to be consistent again. Will break down your slowing down. You're sick or he didn't how come you didn't talk them. No but you gotTA stick up. It was parallel. That's IT and so the player safety I think has come a long way and I think again. It's has locked the players learning going to those certain standards where you have to find a new standard. It used to standard enforce new standard than both wrestled players on the same page one of the topics. You just touched on was the last long lockout. And that's almost what this layoff feels like like a lockout. We are being locked out of our daily lives We can't go out to dinner. We we can't You know go to shop for clothes Players must feel that way as well and I'll play this one last clip from from drew. Doughty this past week of You know the Players Association still staying active. They're they're staying in touch with one another and they're voting on things. Ask a question on the other side. We have to make some decisions when it comes to Nhlpa stuff on boats and things like that. So I keep in touch with Their head resting on a lot of veterans. Keep talking about it and I also talked a lot of guys on other teams two teams thinking or seeing what they're hearing so yeah I talked to. I mean we got nothing but time so I've talked to people right now. Lots of time. Well we can all empathize with that but the question that comes to mind for me. I wonder if this crisis means we are going to see long lasting labor peace between the NHL and the NHLPA. It seems like in this scenario. There is too much for either side to lose. They'll find a way even if somebody's got to take a little sacrifice they'll find a way. That's my opinion. At least I think that both sides have seen it up close and personal how fragile things can be that. Brings you back home very very quick. I used to play rep for the games and this is before email this before cell phones so I would go to the meeting that I call the meeting All the information back to the kings players sit around. We talked for five a five ten fifteen twenty. Whatever was nothing long but two weeks later we vote on something players would get it back. Why why why did he go they would? They didn't know what they were doing. They didn't have. They didn't have the information they listened to it but they didn't absorb it. He didn't take him now. Like drew said he talks to other players. They have emails. You go back and forth you get documents sent you that you can actually have in writing and read it do that all of this. It just brings up something. I read the other day from Adam. Oates one thing he said we were just talking about development. No I'm going off on a tangent here. But he said he cannot believe because he's one of the guys that help. He's a skill ugh. I can't believe players working together in the off season from different teams. You said when I played and he was talking about himself said I wouldn't talk to Chris. Kelly was summer Chris. Kelly tried to take my hat off a couple of times in the rigors mocking what a brisk by slasher and that's again just another evolution. That's it's all a great. It's it's just our removed from one generation to the next and things change. I think one interesting aspect of this will when there is a lockout when there have been lockouts in the. Nhl Lot of stuff gets done. A lot of back and forth takes place. Lana Goshi Atieno at some point. No four zero five at stopped But when we're playing hockey we don't get to think about the big picture issues. Well now you are basically in a lockout mode where you get to think about the big picture issues. The stuff that matters the stuff that you would want to vote on and I think players the PA in the NHL. They're all taking advantage of the opportunity. Everything I've heard about the Commissioner's office. They're going nonstop. They're working seven days a week. Not only coming up with scenarios but also things that they can talk to the PA about to see what they can do to work through this thing. And I get the sense that everybody wants to be on the same page and I know one of those ideas that's been kicked around from the very beginning on this is neutral site games Because I think there's a thirst for TV sports content. Did you watch the last dance over the weekend? The Michael Jordan documentary. I believe I did. I watched episode to. You GotTa Watch you. GotTa Watch from the beginning. What do all that once a week? I missed that one and then I caught up. There's more coming right. Y'All yeah this is like a five week thing you have plenty of time to catch up But I think the whole build up around. This is that there's a thirst for news sports content. I mean we're trying to work on it right. You know we're beyond airing. Classic gains the the The legends video game concept that we had some other stuff that's being worked on. So that's why this whole neutral site you know just allowing TV to broadcast the Games thing is so interesting and it goes back to the Mid Nineties. The NHL has done neutral sites before They used to play. Eighty four games in the early nineties as part of this experiment And the Kings participated in this. They played the Blackhawks in Milwaukee the Canadians in Phoenix Arizona. They would later have a team They played the flames in Phoenix Arizona and they played the oilers in Sacramento. And there's a thought that the governor of New Hampshire has talked about potentially hosting games at the arena in Manchester New Hampshire. This is not a new concept but I'm curious as you go back to the early nineties and you're calling some of these games in these nutrients what what was unique and different about those. When the season had eighty four games. I think again. I think that they came. Before Front was the partnership aspect. Let's go back to the origination. Me Were there. We being kings people because you put Gretzky together with Los Angeles. Huge market wasn't then considered a big hockey market. Now you have a different completely different landscape and Wayne has been discussed. Many times probably was the only player that could have accomplished this. Because of his crossover wait crossed over to the pop culture pop culture. I was watching swingers for the first time the other night by the way Jimmy speaking of movies. We haven't talked about movies that I haven't watched in a while and they had NHL Ninety four the video game in there and they had one one of the characters wearing Wayne Gretzky Jersey pop culture. That's exact- that's we were able to make that crossover. So the end the League says okay. We've got Y- that would I remember? All honesty was going into those mostly into those towns. There are a few that you would have a viable. No question this is a chance for an intial franchise. Then there were on that they were just on the outside. You knew in the back of your mind. There's no way the new team would ever be there. But when we went into most of the talents it seems to be kind of a one and done. You're in there twenty four hours before the game. Yeah the big hype but a couple of stories in local papers. Play the Game Gretzky. You go leave and then it would kind of go but I think it's a step that the NHL had to take. They had to take. They want to expand they have to find ways and they did so but we were there. You know you won Wayne Caught Jane. I remember at the beginning of season sitting down with at least minimal of to La Times writers basic over the rules of hockey. This is not Helene Elliott. Who's been there for forever and as a hall of fame writer but these are the the beat persons that were put on when Lee was not on the beach and I have no problem doing it. But that's where our sport was Wayne comes. Everyone's attracted to it times. Says we've got to put a reporter on it. They put someone who's never seen a hockey game before. I got to sit down with them and go over some basics. Have no problem. Doing it loved it but that's the growth stages that you have to go through there were Thirteen markets that the the NHL went into for these Five of the thirteen eventually received franchises. Dallas Atlanta Minneapolis. Saint Paul Phoenix and Miami. Now granted Atlanta had the flames back in the Seventies Minneapolis. Have the north stars so these kind of you know old is new again. Markets BUT MIAMI PHOENIX DALLAS. All got teams out of it Now would I expect it? Manchester New Hampshire is going to get a top-flight major league team out of it again. Remember they were the kings affiliate for a long time. The Manchester Monarchs from two thousand one. Do I WANNA say fifteen? They were the H. L. affiliate Won The CALDER Cup It's not a situation where they're trying to grow the sport But it is a historic connection to a city that has a hockey history and it is a market. That is probably a little bit more accessible than the other rumored one in North Dakota or even Regina Saskatchewan. Let's be honest and it seems like there's buy in to have everybody under one roof at least for the playoffs. I just don't. I don't know what's going to happen. In the interim it'll be fascinating it's going to be. It would be fascinating experiment as as we talked about at the beginning. I think we're both kind of the pessimistic side of this but as needed what we're planning there's going to be playoff games played. You think so. I do back to what you were. Just what came to my mind. Alex this is how the little things are sold and the NHL had to go through these things. The players have to go through these things. The numbers on the helmets. Basement of that when you go into locker rooms now right. Yeah the name tax at every spot because one media in there don't know who the players are but now they do now they do. And that's your. We're playing in cities around the country. That really like I said to me. It was kind of like a mentioned thirteen and only five. They'll you're in for twenty four hours attention on you for twenty four hours. You're gone they forget about you but all these little things the little but to me either. They're hugely important now. We have thirty coming to thirty one teams and I follow the game as closely as anyone know. What are the East Coast? Sometimes I don't know this guy. I don't know facially I've seen a month. It's it's great what they think about. How the Anglesey Cameras FOR TV Games. Numbers you've gone through it you know especially as a play by play. Guy. I know there's more thought put into that now than ever before all those little things that help us identify the players. I was at a Fox seminar. One time when Mark Cuban came and spoke he was a great speaker. The one thing he said this is only two years ago. Two years ago he said the biggest thing we have to do in pro sports is make sure our fans low what time the game is and this is a fundamental simple. Well you have to make sure that your people low what time what they what channel. What time would they which out with time? What channel do you take for granted? Yup people working for eight hours or coming home. They got kids. You're taking it for granted. I just thought that was interesting from a guy who sits his position as the president owner so many other things but simplified to the point of date time and channel make sure they know. It's been a good show to binge on CNBC SHARK. Tank all the rears. They're all still good smart I WanNa talk a little bit about this neutral site thing no fans but available for TV. I asked you question last night. One if you had a chance to think about what is one enhancement. You'd like to see that. We might not have had access to or permission for in a normal circumstance if we had a neutral site no fans may be an intimate arena setting but TV would be the only outlet that we could watch hockey. I'm not going to jump out on a limb here. I think it's pretty obvious to me. It would be camera locations. You can put cameras now where people would be sitting and you could get a complete. I think a completely different aspect at an angle. You know there's always in hockey there seems to be that the tight then the game angle and then. I think you can find a lot of different ways. Now they know. Maybe I'm downplaying. Because now we have the camera the camera down low low baseboard around the ice and we we have more and more but I just thinking that there might be a camera that would be fixed location. Wouldn't be able to do and give it would just bridge that gap between the camera view and that tight you would be somewhere in between the leg would help hi how about Spidercam or or those cable cams like they have for college pro football I I would be curious to see because those things would block a lot of fans sidelines in arena but if you had access to something that could move back and forth with the play kind of follow the play in real time that would be pretty cool it would be would be. I know in the past. They've done it with the. The camera used to hang underneath the scoreboard. Jumbotron right in the middle of the ice skating or go back and forth. But you can't get into the back pocket and I think that's with that type of camera will do for. Yeah right it would be normally blocking sight lines. We wouldn't have to worry about it. It's a fast game in the transition. Makes THAT MORE DIFFICULT. But why not try it? You're right I'll try known football. You can get right into the back of a huddle right then. You can get right behind the quarterback. Because you're not you're going one way. Yes there might be transitioned with a fumble or interception but basically ninety percent of the time. The ball's going go from one spot and you know where it's going in hockey that type of camera man. I think the technology would have to the zipping back offered with how we had it in the outdoor game in Colorado Springs But again now you have a football stadium type of thing where you have more of a panoramic as opposed to something he will be. I think that'd be you know what would be interesting for me and I I. I know the reason why we don't have it already. It's the unfettered uncensored live audio from the benches and I know why we don't have it because in our sport Jimmy. I don't know if you knew this but we tend to swear a lot Specifically The F. Word quite a lot in the sport of hockey and I don't think advertisers in a family friendly environment take too kindly to that. But I'm thinking you know what this is the time when you're going to have the opportunity to get without any background noise. The uncensored unfettered live audio. I know and speaking to the last dance the Jordan documentary. I enjoyed hearing that. I enjoy when we get those videos of the refs completely uncensored in that communication that goes back and forth I'd even go so far as to say no. Have you have a referee channel? You know like I. I want to hear what the sport is really liked. Because yeah okay. It's technically profanity. But I think there's a charm to it in a certain way when you hear these guys talk on the ice. It's actually Kinda Fun. You're going to have some FCC issued as there's another thing that occupies more than any or spit it's true Schwerin spent Volley if this were nineteen ten we. We'd be banned all over again What one last thing I want to get to Before we take some listener questions. This year is the thirtieth anniversary of the King's triumph over Calgary defending Stanley Cup champions in nineteen ninety and as much as the Kings. Were you know a team on the rise they had Wayne Gretzky and whatnot? There was still underdogs in that series to a large degree and You know my crucial Nikki with that crazy. Goal at the at the net front The indelible memory from that series. But what are some of your memories from that series? Now that we're a thirty years on the first thing and it comes to mind and it's IT happened a couple of years previous but one you. It's not overdoing this. I don't believe we know about laying as a player who know his skill and all of that and production. The intangible factor was this one Wayne. Gretzky was on your team. You believe you had a chance to win. The whole shootin didn't happen here with the Kings Wayne. They went of course to the finals in ninety three a couple years later but it was there and you could feel it. There was a true feeling that when he's on the team they were chance to win. And it'll the high-scoring nature those caves playoffs. And the the grudges that were involved. I know it does take a back seat in the playoffs more. So because you can't afford to you know I remember just when you just not necessarily the series but like a Rob Blake fighting. Joel all like these are. These are probably more regular season. But just you know what I truly believe. At least I think there was as much of a rivalry between the kings and Calgary then kings in the oilers child rehab more of an edge to their teams more physicality not taking anything away from no rest in peace Dave Cement Co. from the oilers and Marty mcsorley you had all that but Taliban was huge and they were tough when they were often. That was. That always had a side. Line to any of the games against the Calgary flames and But yeah you just you get to a point where and that. That was where the kings were going right there. There were trying every year to improve the roster and they get to a point where chain complaint with these types of teams. I believe there was a disputed. Nawal for prime McClellan I think was going to be credited with a goal that they couldn't find a replay that founded over I don't know replay was involved back then but anyways disputes ends not in did matter. They'll just Mike Vernon's arm was not long enough was alive. He's got a grown. You could not reach back and get that book I believe it was Doug Gilmour. Who had the disputed Non Goal Call. I'm just going back and looking through the the La Times clips from from the series. Either way it was That's another series that I'd love to go back and kind of go down the youtube rabbit hole and and start watching again so I might have to do it. let's let's take some listener questions and then we'll We'll let everybody get on with their day One thing that I know has been a topic for us has been the increase of scoring in the NHL. And this is an interesting question I don't know if I necessarily agree with the premise. But ICING ON THE CROWN ASKS. How would you increase scoring but only by changing the nets taller wider? Maybe you know the the way they used to be designed with those two curves in the back. Would you make the net more shallow? I if you could only change the nets to increase scoring again. The premise of the question How would you do it if it'll question? I'm going to bail on this one and say do not touch that at all that goes against police. I just You can make shallower You know people felt that that would give the operator behind that a little bit more room to to work Bounces off the backboard would have less of a chance of hitting. The back of the net may be careful to the franz the passer from behind the net. If you have less own more no less net worry about behind the goal line that he could make a lofted angle saucer pass may be so. Yeah I I think at that point you lost me and you know what Nixon all fame broadcaster with gangs on radio he. He's he's back in the day. When the no the dead puck era he was. He was a proponent. Let's bigger let's make a bigger. Let's go you know and I was. I got to the point where you started and consider it but I'm back to the point. Now where and part of what that question involves as the goaltenders ability to take up so much room. I understand that the ratio size the open net behind the goaltender now compared to what it used to be. It's almost gone away but I think we've just got to find ways to tweak the rules as they keep doing more face officer taking place and things of that sort and hope I'd still think shrinking pads for goalies would do more than Changing the net Because I think yeah because they and they've done a good job with that. I've seen icy parks. Abc The now that are sneaking through dolphins. They're under the arm seven. Whole aide whole. They're getting in there and that's a little bit different than the past and I think no goaltenders St- this they start to worry a little bit more because they know they have to maybe move a little bit more to cover that spot as opposed to just being a blocker the puck. And you're spending it hits you. Here's an interesting one and again. The premise of the question. You know we're kind of spitballing here. Because we don't have actual hockey but an interesting premise. To this question from Josh Mendoza if you could have the kings swapped divisions for one season which division would you put them in? And who would be the team going the other way? That is very easy for me. They would be the Hawaii Division. I love it. Can we have like white away. Are we doing this and Hawaii? Why have has anyone thought about playing this playoffs in Hawaii? I'm all for that. I mean the time zone change all that would help out. Everyone we can play. It'd be much better for everyone but no yeah I would definitely base the king's division. Of course I would still as much as I would love that And it would involve some island hopping. I guess The the Metropolitan Division has always earned a bit of jealousy from around the NHL for how Simple the travel is there every time we go on those East Coast Road trips and we take off from an airport and we land and forty five minutes of the next destination where like these people are so spoiled in this division. It's just it's so different out there like we. We think of going on a road trip. It's a trip there. It's just a hop skip and a jump so I would say I don't know the team going the other way. I would hope I'd hoped when they did the realignment for Seattle that Seattle Colorado moving over and then Edmonton Calgary moving the other way That's into the. That's what I'd hoped had been done but there are some very serious thing. Cover EDMONTON CALGARY CANADIAN TEEN ISSUES THAT. They want keep together. They're McCain's current honestly. It's actually when we have Vegas in the division we've Anaheim in the division Arizona's moving to the central but we've San Jose so you've got three four teams within a one hour flight and that makes a huge huge difference in having Seattle Vancouver is kind of an island when you go there. Regardless of whether you're traveling from Calgary Edmonton or from San Jose we back to back the season. San Jose to Vancouver. That was not fun but having Seattle. I think is going to make a huge difference to be able to do most more than likely back to backs between Seattle Vancouver but even having a day in between just I I will. I agree with you Jim. I I don't necessarily love that Arizona's moving instead of something else. But I understand why I'll just I'll just take. Maybe my second. Biggest pet peeve other than people complaining about the schedule is anyone complains about travel I came in the NHL in nineteen eighty all the teams were traveling commercially. It was even balanced schedule so to at home in two away against every other team National Hockey League. And if you WANNA complain about travel and your the Lost Ark. Closest to that year was Colorado. That was the closest the rockies right. Then you had Vancouver so that was it basically so now. Anaheim arizon- makes a lot easier San Jose with the actual the east and West conferences. No you're bananas in Dallas teams and some other teams that make just just make a little bit easier. But that's that's my second pet peeve. Don't ever want to hear anyone complaining about you. Know we're we're taking care of quite well. I'll I'll leave it with this. One from Dida rule deeter says hi guys grew up watching hockey in the seventies eighties and nineties when all the home teams wore white or yellow. Any chance the kings can wear white at home more often next year felt great seeing Colorado New Jersey wearing road colors and kings white. Miss you guys stay safe. We wish the same to you and this would be baseball season. You'd be out of Dodger Stadium For every home we miss we. Miss Avenue Staples mishearing you dodger stadium. Jim I I think more teams in the League is kind of going into the direction where not that. It doesn't matter as much anymore. But because there are so many alternate jerseys and concepts and one offs. It's kind of pick and choose and so long as you can get the other team to agree if it's You know home road situation. If they agree to bring their other Jersey set i I mean it seems like teams can pick and choose more often than they used to right. Yeah I think so I I. We've talked about this before. Not I don't lose any sleep over it. I grew up when I first started watching hockey when it was the way it now with the colors being Lauren at home but I think you are exactly right. I said that there will be. It's going to all you have to do is come into an agreement with other team. Yes the equipment. Managers will have to take an extra trunk of Jerseys along the road but that will become normal natural So for Instance Your Own Division. You play two and two. Maybe you can just do the whole you know. What is your whites want? Is your colors of all. But then you have your thirds. It's you know I I I don't stuff too. I don't know if I've ever watched the game since I was twelve years old. I don't know if I've ever watched the game as a fan when I was twelve. I was just telling my late and I was pretty good player in my area and I was basketball in my area and I started only thinking as a player then I played them broadcast. It's I don't I can't remember the last time I've sat down and watched the game as a fan. And maybe that's why I don't what is much importance of colors are being worn by which team that's fair and I think even from my standpoint I enjoy going into stance every now and again if if he had the chance. We'RE WORKING EVERY GAME. So it's unless national. Tv takes it and And they did this year. Actually the game against Dallas in January where? I wasn't working so I just decided you know what I'm GonNa go. Sit in the stands doesn't really bother me to just sit back and watch the game from the stand and cheer a little bit. It's it's nice. That's why still I know you poke fun at it but I stay in touch with my alma mater with with northeastern and college hockey. A little bit because on the rare chance that I can go to a game I can be a fan. I'm lynn loose a little bit and Boy You should hear the profanity's coming out of my mouth when I sit and watch a hockey game it's not. Pg rated the. I'm watch a good team. You wouldn't have to swear on that note any anything else here Jim before we say goodbye. Well Lo I think like everyone is doing a stressing I think guidelines rate from the get. Go the one thing one thing I think I hit more than anything was these guidelines will continue to change what happens is not going to be the same as the previous weekend. It might change the following. We know what's going on out there right now. Some areas that are acting protests Health is number one. I think we can see a light at the end of the tunnel. I think we can see how people and communities have worked together not should that should really give now. There's not everyone's ever GonNa agree with everything but I just think I think you've gotTA maintain the number one priority is the health of you and your family. So that's so many things going on around us. That's number one third and economic issues. Do Enter into hell else but let's take care of each other. Let's keep taking care of each other and I think You know we're getting there. We're getting there where we can think about things. I agree that it's a somewhat moving target or it will be in the next couple months Because things will change and even though the mayor the other day and I don't like to get into politics on this podcast even though Mayor Garcetti. The other day said well. We don't expect any sports events with fans until two thousand twenty one of the earliest things can change and I wouldn't take anything that anyone says right now unless it is written on a piece of paper in some sort of you know executive order or law that there are no events or nothing's allowed or people aren't allowed here or whatever unless it's Coda fight in some way Things can change. And let's not forget that in terms of of being in this situation. We are as a strange to say only about a month and a half into it And this is a personal off season for many of us. Some of us that means no work. others it means working from home or finding different ways to deliver your daily life But taking the tack that it's a personal off season that means that at some point we're going to get ramped up and getting ready to go for the regular season which will come again But we will have to wait and see exactly when to on that note. I think we'll say goodbye. Thank you again to all those On the front lines of this crisis you mentioned all the Health Workers Jim who are doing exemplary job and and sacrificing so that we don't have to all the grocery store workers all the delivery people. Everybody who has to be out and about right now. Thank you continued good health. Stay safe and we'll talk to you next time.

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Kings vs Wild Postgame

All The Kings Men

31:11 min | 2 years ago

Kings vs Wild Postgame

"The draw shot up pie. Rebound on J Coppola Tar on the re. This is an all the king's men post game podcast. Then hunting corrales you say. Now here's your host Jesse Cohen. Right accorded all right. I still remember all right in fact all right here we go one backing sans. We are here in the press backgammon. Textured you're Welcome back kings fans. We're here in the Bob Miller press box high above the staple center watching the USC trojans take on the UCLA bruins put on. I don't know what the score is because we're not really watching it joining me tonight. Jackson Bonski Howard Internet Jack. I'm good I'm good and bad. Go kings and of course in Los Que announcer Dave Joseph. I'm doing great. I'm doing great mega me. Look at those levels with that big old. Hello read a big win for the Kings tonight and now let me let me just get right right into this. Against Jack's Minnesota wild team is the three one tarnished little bit by the fact that they couldn't score on the empty net a little bit a wide. Open that the the native shot a six foot gauge from from fifty feet. Right as I mean honestly like if there if this is how you know there aren't hockey gods because if there were a Minnesota would have scored tied up because things missed so many opportunities on a non empty net right like I think I saw luffed mischance dance Carter hit our host. There were at least three or four other. You know y grunts from missile. One time there were just so many missed opportunities wagner. I mean like more and more going to keep this goes on and on and so for them to miss the empty net so the end I just like okay. Minnesota has to tie this right because the kings things have absolutely. I don't WanNa say don't deserve to win this game but like it would have just been so fitting now. Fortunately Jack goes home a sad boy because he's Minnesota wild did lose. Yeah sorry but I mean Jack asked very succinctly before I hit the record button. What are we even going to talk about tonight because this was as as usual when the Minnesota wild play the kings not the most exciting? Yeah exactly yeah. I said to somebody on the phone earlier today. Look this is a tough game even when you know even when the both teams are good currently last and second last in the Western Conference Jack. What did you think of this game? Well we're talking in the game and you know as you kind of alluded to when these teams are good. It's still tough to kind of talk about it because it's just just physical not very eventful in terms of scoring and I would one teams bad. It's about half as likely that there's anything talk about both teams bad. Good way to put you might as well talk about the game at all but for the sake of talking about the kings played very well I think that they we've held off the wild and their one little span. I think in late in the first and early in the second period and beyond that the Kings really control the game and it was good to see because they did it in all four lines as well Dave any overall takeaways from this burner. I think the Miss Chances are a little a bit Concerned perplexing was the word I was GONNA use but but it'll calm. I think it'll come matlock seeing his first action tonight and get a pass Clifford that energy energy fan on it would happen but didn't go into the nets matter. Kyle clever played really good game to be honest. I thought he had a good game talk in ever sat on this podcast that Clifford played a bad game. No no he's playing every single every single night he these shows up and does exactly what you want and more I love him. I think he's great and I thought tonight was a good game for Jonathan Quick. Maybe kind of himself a little bit tonight tonight. Made a lot of key saves at key times and I'm hoping this gets Jonathan Quick back on track to the goalie. We're accustomed to see what we saw him in Montreal and he made a number of says. I tweeted tweeted out. Something like the return of the Jedi. Because he had that one on believable you know Post the FO save. And I listen. I am not one to tout optimism but to your point about the saves or the blown chances being Perplexing I will say this. At least they did have opportunities whereas there have been plenty games this year. Where they didn't score and you just said to yourself there never got us? They're not even a threat no chance they're going to put twenty minutes and two games without even coming third point. I think the chances will actually come and listen. We are sort of tiptoeing around the Ilya. Kovalchuk thing wait did something. Unfortunately we don't have anything really to say about got it because we there's no. The official statements are all just you know nothing to see here. Go about your business but I will say this with campaign to the line up in with Kovalchuk out of the lineup. Two guys who liked the puck on their stick and who if their games not going well tend to render their linemates. Inmates somewhat irrelevant so to have them out of the lineup and then to see all of these opportunities suddenly be generated. I don't I don't think it was a coincidence. And I think can only help moving forward if we continue these trends. I think that's a diplomatic enough way of saying. I think I would agree with that and I think I like what matlock brings to the table. I think I like what Karl Grunstein brings to the table. And I think the more that we see you both of those players mixed in with other young players on this team better. This team is going to get. Yeah and I think that's maybe part of the reason. Why why they did what they did with Ilya Kovalchuk and said basically you're not gonNA play allegedly allegedly? Well that's what the statement said right well not Hey early statement. That didn't come from the Kings. Yeah you're not GonNa play and Rob Blake. I believe came out and said just a healthy scratch just late to fully was nothing to see here. Okay so you were doing your pre retract that yeah yeah so he could be in the line Lynam next game it was all you know nothing to see here but only time will tell but I think I'm on the same page. I think it's very very interesting when you put in some of the younger guys and take away. Some of the I need the puck on my stick to be effective Type of players and you create opportunities is now the guys at the puck on their stick cold shock and even bay they tend to be goalscorers and that was what we didn't see that much tonight but at the same same time. We'll see how things work out Matt Love. You know had eight goals and thirty something games. I believe last year. So we know he can put the puck in the net and he's not afraid ready to shoot it grunts drum also known for being an offensive minded player at a goal scorer particularly so in due time. Will we see more of that as they become more comfortable but at the same time we also have to dress with a out and check out now. We obviously don't know what the situation is with Cova. Chuck moving forward. But it's not like campaigns just GonNa ride the thirteenth man up in the press box for forty five more games this season that law or is he or is he but at least you know that's not what things appointed to baby. I'm not saying you're wrong. I I will simply say this. He's twenty three years old he just signed a contract which is also a very small contract. Yes but it's easier for next year. I understand but I remember having a conversation with an Employee Fox sports west a few seasons ago and his take on it was oh man this is back. This is like three years only two years ago. Maybe back when the team was still considered itself to be in the window of contention and his attitude was Oh man Adrian campaign is going to put this team in a really tough spot. Because he's GonNa come up for a contract renegotiation Jason. He's going to get. They're going to have to make decision whether to pay him a lot of money and put this team type inshore to move him or something like Oh man is going to be tough. Honestly if they didn't sign Adrian campaign the contract. They did this summer. Is Anybody gnashing their tears. GNASHING their teeth and wailing to the habit. I there's a biblical phrase I'm screwing up here but anyway the point is nobody would care. No you're you're exactly correct but I think you look at the situation. I think it's just going to be the bottom six or at least four the the bottom six I think is is going to be a revolving door of a tryout and that's again with this season's going to be about. I think you look at twenty five thirty games understand understand where a lot of your vets are. Some of the guys that could potentially be trade. Bait are kind of pick and choose your moments to try to promote them into the being someone that they necessarily not be for trade bait and then try to take advantage of finding the youth and finding opportunities to play. A lot of those guys is that you need to figure out what you WANNA do with them. Next year grunts drum. I'll follow. I've always been a little bit more of a different situation. But you know grown John strohm laugh a lot of those younger guys that are going to be in and out of this lineup as right now weeping and gnashing of teeth. That was the phrase I was looking for. Oh that's good I I agree I agree with you Jack. I think the one issue that I have there is like you were saying it's GonNa be like a shuttle in and out with six the fact that Adrian campaign isn't the number to center on. This team speaks volumes. Does it not well. I mean copays number one. We all know that but at what point in the what point in his career so far I would tell you that he should be well. It's not that I'm not being told. He should be but just where they where they pendulum in. You know what I mean. He's got all the speed. He's got the tools he's he seems to have. Everything that you need is a player. He's got good size but yet he can't for whatever reason or he hasn't put it all together either to to claim that number two spot. And that's the bothersome thing because then it opens up. WHO's your number two center Blake will? It is now before the game. The kings were. What does that say you know what I mean before the game the pace for fifty three points right which is which is USA Today projected them to finish with fifty five? And I laugh at them and said that's insane talking about fifty three points. I don't know I haven't done this win. Must've put 'em up like sixty right so the point is this is not I mean. I said to Jack before the game about. I don't remember which lineup decision. But I said this isn't rearranging chairs. On the titanic reupholstering the chairs and then rearranging tannock. So let me read you the roster good lines metaphors unprepared. I follow cope. It's brown a Mario Kart or to Foley Wagner Lozad outgrown Strom Clifford Matt love other than Nikolai Precaution named me a guy on that lineup. Who who you ought to take out for Adrian campaign? Can't I and I'm not saying that any of these guys are world leaders. I'm saying this is a team on pace to win. Fifty three points. Yeah and Adrian Kempe. I mean you know. I have been chastised by certain people who've said your expectations are too high. You need to think of more as a bottom. Six battling killing dotted whatever. Ever you know John Stevens famously said I like heavy hockey. I love heavy hockey in Adrian. Kabyles heavy well he doesn't. He takes penalties. He doesn't score and it looks. I'm not trying to sit here in Milan Adrian Campaign for for hours and hours. I'm just trying to say like again. It's not actor. Adrian campaign was when they first called told him up and he went to match and he was on tear the worst thing that had a worse career board and scored. And and and then you go. Everyone says he says the everyone sits right well. Where's that guy? Yeah where's where does that get or was it. Just that he had some great luck during that playoff run or he he was called up so he had all this adrenaline and he had never played any wants to prove a point and that kind of feeds off after a certain number of weeks. I don't know which. Which is the player that we're that we're we should be seeing as we look at Jack Lonski and TV such a good literary surreal face a quote from copay tire? This comes from John. John Rosen in the locker room from Kotaro regarding the Kovalchuk situation. First of all. It's obviously not a great situation. Cove is a good guy. There's nothing that's wrong with the attitude or or anything. He wants to win. He wants to do the best. He's really good guy off the ice. Everybody can probably say that about him. It's just for whatever reason it's not working on the ice and that's about all I can really put an all. I can from say now interesting. This is terrible analogy. But when I was Jack's age I played in bronze level adult men's men's Rec League Roller Hockey Valley. Yeah there was a guy named nate on my tea and nate could score better than any of us on the team. And you know what nate couldn't wouldn't do pass the puck. Sorry Nate I've been holding onto this for fifteen years. Have you ever told me. I think we all told me. Okay nate would not pass the PUCK. Doc Nate would not come off the ice for shift out there. Every beverly right now was native good hockey player. Absolutely nate was way better than I was in the bronze level Adult male REC league roller hockey. And you know there's some photos actually. We need to see the picture of me holding my infant sister in full gear anyway. The point is nate was a better hockey player than I was. But nate was not a great teammate and turns out we. We're better with nate out of the lineup. Now even though he was very good way better than me and he wanted to win and he wanted to score goals you wanted to do. You can't do it by yourself. Nate nate nate was a super guy. I liked nate. I had made over to my house for barbecues. You know what I mean. Nate was great. But you know. I didn't like playing with nate. Neither did anyone else. Well I mean his buddy did ben we call them laser. We can anyway. Because it's shot with super slow and any Telegraph that he'd had this huge lined up and we'd all laser and then he takes us awful shot anyway The game the point is Oh my God how how good a guy someone is and how hard he works is not always enough to justify a roster spot. I guess is my point correct. And that's that's where we're at now. Yes well maybe allegedly maybe for the time being. ABC's Today today. I don't know I just I think it's it's it's a whole it's Pandora's box that relation and I don't know how it gets better six million dollars to the point where you said you know he's a healthy lineup of the eleven people than Nick Leiper Corcoran and be clear. I'm not trying to no. I know I dropped. He's played play games. We don't yet so but no even to the point of you know given what we've seen this year and even in the last year and a half who on that that roster of the eleven players that played tonight other than pork in just because of the clause Jesse mentioned should Kovalchuk Line of four right. Now well listen before the season started Dave and I did ten questions right and one of my questions was what happens that Ilya Kovalchuk. Or I don't remember how I phrased it but I said you Dave I don't care and it wasn't. It's not any animosity towards cove shock. It's not any ill will towards goal. Chuck it's just you know he's not going to be here pass next. He doesn't fit the plan. Not at all square in a circle peg. Yes and so and so even tonight my attitude we it read but but even tonight the only reason I want it resolved one way or the other to move on. Yeah just to move on because look Thursday if he's in the lineup that fine moving on who cares if he's is not in the lineup on Thursday will then just lends more and more credence to these reports. Look Elliott Friedman is not in the business of making stuff up. Bob Mackenzie is not in the business of you. Know putting his his professional reputation on the line. Just sort of stir stuff up in the been one of the smallest dog. There's some truth to yeah exactly like I'm GonNa there you go on Reddit. And there's a million people weighing in cause rapid and it's easy but how many people in North America really care about what happens with you know the six best forward on the thirty thirty first place team right in the league right like nobody reading come come so so you don't. I have to go back to the reupholstering. The chairs before you rearrange them on the deck of this teams who cares. Well the other thing is besides the other thing is if you rob blake or your todd McClellan who do you WanNa see in the lineup Do you want to play or do you want to see Matt left play. You already want to see Carl grunts from play or do you WanNa see Austin Wagner flavored Anderson Dolan Anderson so that's kind of the issue another one is you'd you'd rather see the youth in the lineup and see where they fit and if they're going to be fit down the road the two house then playing right then playing seventeen ten twelve the minutes tonight and say okay. We know we're getting there and he's not going to be two years anyway so the Clinton made it clear it and that was. It's going to be my way or the highway. You're going to buy in to what or doing or we're going to find another place to be and it's been cleared through whether it's healthy scratches with other people that they need to by into the system or eventually you know you're not going to be here and while we've seen that with to fully fully responded ended. Well we've seen that with Julia Chuck now. We don't know where the future lies again. And we've obviously address that but it'll be interesting because McLellan's here on a five year deal in. He has a plan to reboot this team. He's not going anywhere and he's not going anywhere now. There's a reason that they brought doc matlock. There's a reason that they've brought up Carlstrom. And that's because he they're probably in the plan or at least you know. There's a good chance that he wants to see because he feels that they can fit fit some of his plans now is Matt. Love going to be sent down tomorrow or in two games or five games. It's yet to be seen but there's a reason that he's up here here and it's not just because the coach out of the lineup. Because I meant that statement just a bit at least as I agree with the sentiment. But we've said repeatedly or I've said repeatedly. I don't know that this season is going to be all about answering questions. Yep Right th this season is not about making the playoffs. This season is not about winning the Stanley Cup. This this season is an evaluation. Another terrible analogy I've made. Is that when you decide to refurbish your bathroom or your kitchen. You don't just start buying new stuff before you take out the old stuff right you've got to. You've got to evaluate what you have to. We want a new fridge now. The old friends is good enough. We want a new stove. Yes we do want to yourself. Well well this is. This is that this is not your one of of the reimagining or the reconstruction. This is the evaluation period and McClellan said. He didn't want other. He didn't want the front office. This is opinions on these players. He wanted his own opinions on his players so on him. Yeah no absolutely and listen. I think most people expected it to take fifteen to twenty games while we're rat seventeenth. I mean I think no this is eighteen right now. Thursday's he's on Saturday and were essentially at the twenty game mark. He's made his evaluation and leading up to this. I think I've said this on the PODCAST. Before maybe I set it on the pre-game show his comment that he made after that road trip where he said there are some guys on. This team. Teamed can't play in the league anymore to me. The operative word there was league. Y- you know Tyler Toffoli can play in this league. Jeff Carter can play in the league. Adrian can play in the League league implies that you can play but in a different league into the best of my knowledge and understanding the Ahl Juniors are separate leagues but really what we're talking about in my mind that's code for the K. H. up that's the other league in this league right. Maybe there was another one hour. I am probably going to get smacked on the wrist or saying that. And certainly we don't know of any of the reports are true but that to me that statement stood out to me and I said it it seems clear to me that if you use that word Baz. We're time but I really. I'm sorry I got myself on traffic and I wanted to jump in and say was whether or not luff or or onstream or Wagner or Walker Roy or any of those with the plan. That's what this year is about. Because here's what we know. Already Turcott Bjorn. Earn foot the Anderson Calia. Those guys are they are pretty much. I mean whether or not they're going away to the plan it'll it'll be up to them to aside but but there are spots being reserves. Thank you reserve for them. And the guys we have on the roster now are the guys that you have to have on the roster to fill out the twenty three man because you can't just can't just facts in eighty two forfeitures to the league and say no you can't just say like can we just go to the next season while we can get some of the salary cap off and listen. I shouldn't say that because now I'M GONNA get in trouble but anyway. Hey Saint Louis one last year while they let me throw another let me through another ranch here okay. So you've been Ontario and you've seen some games. Yeah one fund a very watched one of the guys that has stood out and there have been several who have stood out. And just bring up. One is named Martin Perk. Yeah and you want to talk about a laser This guy's got an absolute missile missile. Yeah he shoots the goalies said he shoots the hardest of anyone they've ever seen. He's got an absolute rocket now. I understand the Matt luff breath call up but at some point is there a Martin for column or is it just that he wasn't a draft pick. He wasn't someone who fits the plan. So he's he's GonNa Stick in Ontario. I mean I would. I would have liked the plan anymore. Well I mean he's twenty not young twenty-seven matter just turned twenty six in October so he's not old he's kind of yeah. Kelly was twenty six my assumption. I meant young. Thank you my bed I I would have expected you got me. I would've one of expected to be on this team rather than grunts from and Wagner to start just because I I didn't think they were going to be on pace to finish with fifty three but I expected them to be on pace to finish between seventy and eighty and I just thought listen grunts and Wagner twenty two twenty two or twenty one but they turned twenty honey zoo December. I'd rather have just a team full of young guys shirt now as it turns out I like leading the rain and scoring so later today. Some point you've got a guy opportune. Yeah well and also Lezak Duly corrected me on this in preseason a nicer to laugh at him but he was right I was wrong. You actually can't have an entire team made up type of twenty year olds. You do need some veterans who know how to play and so I can camp. They have been really good. I think for the rain like a lot of their record is because of Oh Yay yea control the play. Yeah and if you haven't been on -Tario folks by the way go check out a game fun to watch and Cal Peterson absolutely and well. He's the few and listen to the rainy day. podcast because they did an interview with cal. Peterson phenomenal and he's great. I mean they do a good job. I'm non -Tario folks. Yeah Trust Yeah. He's especially when Jesse's there. Yeah well two dollars maybe it depends on the national awesome so look let's talk about this game I had a really good feeling about it because I thought that the absence of campaign and the addition of Matt Love I thought it would provide them a boost. I thought ah we give them especially with the way that The young line performed in Montreal. I thought they'd continue on that now. They didn't. I didn't think they looked. I mean wagon the couple speedy chances and grammy look. They've had as many chances everybody else. I guess They won but it wasn't the the competition wasn't the highest and they're on the end of a four game road trip but not trying to make excuses for the wild here but What I am saying is that you have to look at the level of competition? They do Detroit coming in on Thursday. So it's another opportunity to grow and expand what they did well today. I think another one that we've mentioned is being able to execute on a lot of the chances that they got today that they didn't so I think that's something to look at moving forward but yeah as you mentioned today. Today's game it was definitely a feel good game. It was a team. Victory your one through four produced in terms of wines and again as Dave mentioned Jonathan. Quick look like the two thousand fourteen two thousand twelve Jonathan quick. I think it's good on the Kings because the first game back from a road trip. I don't care what anyone says. It is the toughest and to come back. A lot of teams come back and they lay the first game back right. I mean come back off the road. You're back with your family. Get back swinging things brother. You don't tell me. I played bronze Lebron's level choir. I know so. I thought it was good. That came out the way they did. They scored I which is great to see because it doesn't happen often. I end early. I and early. Yeah ten seconds. I thought it was good. Good team effort tonight. I think the way they scored. I'm also positive about both plays sort of having the same way your your veteran's center right Qatar. Does it first Carter does later. They win the face off. You know it gets to an open. Man Takes the shot and the guy who on the face off scores down in the dirt. Quarter Gordon the dirty areas so the fact that the wingers some of the young guys after or blue open shots again. We talked about at least autumn. But the but you're Carter's in your copay tires on the game to neck running down the list going into this game. Cope Qatar with five goals Brown undoubtedly before harder to fully walker and global chuck with three. Each that's not good enough right like I don't WanNa be that guy who's maybe the pays for fifty one hundred percent and you know you say what you want about especially after the start that they got off to just six to five every game them. Boy Loyd we off the wagon. Yeah so all right player of the game but I think it's important so again no I just think it's important. That the veterans get goals right like cohorts are can't be scoring five goals at the twenty. No that's what they carry the team. They have to carry the team young players to carry the team. They had to up. Gary thanks veterans. That's exactly where you saw the success two years ago and Co Petar was in the MVP race and then last year when he had what twenty goals. Maybe so all right Dave player of the story play. We're GONNA start with play the game play of the game play of the game. I would say the play of the game is the Jeff Carter goal which put the Kings on top and put them on top for good. It was a big goal at the time they made it to to nothing game. Jeff Carter goal in the dirty area. Like you said down near the crease. That's my play of the Game Jack. A second that I'm flirting it while it's anonymous there's really two on goals scored yes. I'm picking it mainly because hope it's hard school while not not that it's getting less work than Jeff Carter's but he's sort sort of tapped in a loose puck goalmouth whereas Carter actually had to take the extra step of this great to see a draw which nothing is significantly special for Carter are you wins draws all the time but going to the finishing. Yeah it's not something we've seen in the last journey. I had the chance earlier. Eddie mass late in the Jesse looked at me and said who is that. Just missed it and I go Carter Order and he goes. Yeah that makes us in good that he has the open his mind. You hit the post. So what are you gonNA. Oh you did okay so I didn't know until like the second period but anyway Good points layer of the game player of the game. I'm torn on this one but I'm going to say that it's the goaltender Jonathan Quick Awesome. Yeah I just think he played too well tonight in an automatic. Yeah absolutely. Yeah and I'm GonNa say this Kyle Clifford. I thought he would have been. He's he's like one eight one. B One BS Liguori in that conversation before I get into my ludicrous statement about Jonathan. Kay how dare that referee. He Give Kyle Clifford a penalty early in the first period when he was shoveling the Minnesota Wild Guy. Hey like it's the kings versus the wild. It's it's GONNA be boring. What are you doing? Yeah but yeah jazz it up something to walk you know. We're watching that down in the box. It was it was at the face off outside outside the Blue Line and all the guys in the boxer like they're going yeah they're going third going Hartman Talking Hartman played them. Yeah they were talking and then cliff. He looked at them and gave them the shove. Now in the game the one extra one and that's when he got it. But how dare you right now. I now dairy Justin saint-pierre now my now my outrage was. APD Alexa talks more about Jonathan. Quake this was a shutout. That goal bounced off that you even pointed it out to me off of. Yeah I think Clinton yeah below in both of his legs when inside shouldn't pet on both both of his legs so there's nothing you can ask a goaltender out. I don't care it's a one goal shutout show. That's how that's right that's right so is the three nothing went. Yeah we'll start as I'm concerned. Okay that works so there you go simple times player of the game Jonathon quick. I think that's going to wrap this one up We will be back. I'll be back on Thursday. I don't know but these guys Yup and listen stay tuned. There will be Ilya Kovalchuk. We'll check news. John John Rosen. I are planning on talking about tomorrow's that'll be available not tomorrow but the next one. You're listening to this. It'll be tomorrow but for for me right now. It'll be two to anyway whatever. Thanks for listening talkies.

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Hour 1: A bad look for the Packers

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Hour 1: A bad look for the Packers

"Sir spain. No Jason Fitz again, Jason golf, filling in on ESPN radio the SPF Sirius XM channel eighty he comes so rarely and then disappears. Just as quickly. What I'm glad to have Jason off on board. We've got a big show for you got a lot of stuff to talk about. We got a lot to do people drop in Mike's people objected fans people cheating the game and a scandal in Green Bay. That's right. That's right. The old good old the Green Bay Packers. They don't need an owner because they're owned by the city and everything's going. Great, right. Sickles and training camp. And all the other stuff that happens and guy. Yards. Yeah. Yeah. It's all fun and games until you start losing somebody to get fired. It's all fun and games until you start digging is actually what happened and tied done started digging for a very lengthy story for Bleacher report that details how the team's inability to play up to its potential can be basically tied to its two. Biggest figures over the last however, many years Aaron Rodgers and Mike McCarthy. So their interviews with players coaches personnel guys who spent a fair amount of time with the Packers and Aaron Rodgers is sort of painted as a bad leader who punished receivers if they listened to McCarthy instead of him as someone who is overly sensitive and was given too much power McCarthy portrayed as a guy who thought his coaching. Instead of the teams talent early on was the key to their success, and therefore stuck to his schemes despite talent leaving the ws coming fewer and further between all the while. Ted Thompson is falling asleep in meetings. So there's a ton to get to and we're going to have. Tide done on the show later, but Gough when you look at a story like this. What's the biggest takeaway? Well, the biggest takeaway one is tied Dunn's writing style is is magical. The fact got this. I I was in thrall usually long reads. I'm like, let me go make salads figure something else out. My attention span is that of a seven year old. But I was I was right there. The moment had happened since it to the group chat because I wanted to get into this which you guys because so much there. And in the end, I come away with this is a bad look for everyone involved including Aaron Rodgers including the Green Bay Packers front office, including Mike McCarthy, whenever there's a firing you hope that guys can move in their separate ways amicably. But the fact that air Rogers is holding grudges from the day that he was drafted by the Green Bay Packers because then offensive coordinator for the San Francisco phone on is Mike McCarthy said that Alex Smith he thought was a better quarterback. It just it just shows you little bit of insight to a guy that when things have creeped out about his personal life. He is not been too fond of it and also show. As you what money kind of does it enhances or essentially who you are. Right. It's kind of like liquor where you're around somebody and the little saucer. I mean, like, oh, this is the real you their players who are speaking on the record that played with Iraj about what he was after. He got the dough that he got and Mike McCarthy doesn't come away looking too good on this as well as disciplinarian or quote, unquote, a fake tough guy for a lot of people in that in that locker room and the lack of accountability there's just a lot here. So when we look at six nine one seasons or we look at losing seasons. We just think you're right guard wasn't good or your corner wasn't good. Or something happened in the playoffs. There's a lot that goes into these things on a day by day basis. And when you're not connected as a team, this is what happens. Yeah. You mentioned McCarthy think tough guy who preached a lot like that. But a lot of the players believed. He created a soft scenario around the team and particularly for the defense who complained that he often didn't seem to care much about them during practice repeatedly made them sprint to the other side of the field to meet up with the. Offense for drills didn't really respect them and treated them in the way, many of us all the team which was just wait for Rogers to bail you out and eventually that didn't work as much anymore McCarthy. Also, according to one source McCarthy about once a week would be MIA for a players meeting. And according to him, it was about emboldening assistant coaches to lead the lead final prep before a game or or to lead meetings. But according to a massage therapist who also worked with one of the players. He would slip up a back stairway to his office while the rest of the team prepared for that week's opponent and got massages. So that's not a great look. I just wonder as reading this. It doesn't make anyone look great. And even the guys who come across as not necessarily having much of an agenda, right of speaking their mind, despite no longer being a part of it and needing to rely on any one involved, whether that's Greg Jennings or or other guys to me what stands out is the question of. Does this make situation for this team going forward better somehow because instead of all the passive aggressive? Difficult to between Rogers and his receivers between Rogers and the new coach that it's just all out on the line. And they are definitely going to address everything that comes up in this in meetings and training camp. And that could be good for them, passive aggression is one of the worst characteristics that anybody can have. And I think we have certain levels of some people have more some people have less. But when you're not when you're scared to confront things head on it festers in any relationship. If you're not talking about the things that bother you immediately than those things fester, and they build up, and then all of a sudden, you're arguing about things that have nothing to do with what initially ticks you off. I think the fact that Aaron Rodgers had his issues with Mike McCarthy from the jump it seems from the reports that we re reread in this Bleacher report magazine column, it seemed as if he's not a guy that is privy to addressing things, and we can get into whether or not that that extends to his family live. You know, obviously, he's out there had the riff with close members of his family, and he's he's publicly of shot away from any of the. Those conversations or on a team two team basis to like if I'm in the locker room, and I've got a problem with you. There is no because we always talk about the macho Machiko manhood in the locker rooms, but guys carry themselves like, you know, less than the macho man she's thing that they want to come off as and then you passive aggressive. You're not make you're not throwing the guys that are open, but are listening to the coaching staff like the stuff from. I messed up as many as equa Miniya's round where you've got a rookie who's being told to do something buys coaches, and then being told to do another thing by the quarterback. And then when he doesn't do it. He gets scolded on the sideline and he has to lie and say he was improvising. So he won't anger the quarterback. And then be told by the by the coach to run the route like everybody in this situation was putting a bad position because guys didn't want to confront what they needed to immediately. And if air Rogers is going to go down as the most talented quarterback of all time fine. But when stuff like this comes out the air. Rodgers Tom Brady debate is over like this signifies exactly what the differences between the two guys. And it's not just Bill Belichick is not rob gronkowski is not the infrastructure is the fact that I don't think Tom Brady is a guy who shows away from things if you if you don't like something he tells you on the sideline if you don't like something probably tell you a meetings from what I have gleaned. It just seems like Aaron Rodgers the too cool for school stuff is all good. When. You winning and telling people relax is all cool when you go on a winning streak, but when you six nine in one and coaches, get fired. You gotta gotta switch up his style a little bit. And I think this'll be a proving ground this year. Yeah. I completely agree with you. And the problem with Rogers is while and in part, we were right? Those of us who blamed McCarthy for running the same schemes for having the same offense of sets for seven years in a row where other teams can jump around before you even get started. Because they know what you're doing because you're depending on systems that worked when you had more talent than everybody else and not changing them up to evolve that is a massive part of their failure. But you're right. If it's if it's a Brady versus Rogers. It's not whoa. Is Rogers for not having enough talent around him and being wasted. It's if he were asserting himself in a way that was not quite so sensitive in so passive aggressive. This may have been fixed quicker, right? If you can't pinpoint the problem, if you're not sure if it's him or McCarthy, or if he is creating as much of an issue as McCarthy is then you're not gonna know that that's the place where you need to make a change or maybe. He could've made good on what he had with McCarthy if he had decided to put in the work and to not challenge him at every turn even if he didn't believe in trust them. Now, the issue, of course, as it is displayed in the story is he was given a ton of power in the more power. You got the more. He saw himself as the one in charge. And so McCarthy whether those plays he was calling weren't good or not had lost the ability to make those decisions, and they let that go on way too long before they made a change. Now what's going to happen for Matt leflore the new head coach and this team is yet to be seen. But we're gonna have tied done on to break down some of the more interesting things from this story this Bleacher report story a little later in the show it Spain and Fitz Jason gov. Filling in for Fitz on ESPN radio. We are presented by progressive insurance. And brought to you by computer career dot EDU training for a better life coming up. Someone says James harden is cheating the game. Tell you about it next. Yes. Don mclean. Famously sang American pie. And famously claimed that James hardness cheating the game of basketball. It might not be the same dumb McLean. I'm not going to be the one who Google that. I'm not going to be the one that spoils thinking it's the same person for any of you largely fits with those might be the same same guy. Take is as old as Don McLean sang that song. Yes. Yes. So it's possible. Sarahspain Jason Garfield infants benefits ESPN radio at the espionage, Sirius XM channel eighty you can hit us up on the one eight hundred flowers dot com Twitter feed, you probably already have at sarahspain at Jason one Gough at Spain. And fits we know. It's not the same guy, but feel free to crawl doormen. She's. The same guy. He's now doing. He's doing play by play. Okay. Well. Plano crack. Excellent. So legendary songwriter McLean last night during. Another excellent performance by James harden, decided that his fifty fifth thirty plus point performance of the year was finally the straw that broke the camel's back, and he had this to say about what James harden has done to the Sigrid game of basketball. Feel like route this style. What hardened does is manipulating the game somehow like almost like cheating it somehow? I don't really have a thought beyond that other than I'm watching something that is it basketball like to me basketball player movement ball design plays not just the guy walking it up and isolate and every time who else can do this. You know, it's not like within the system. He's getting all these numbers assistant is built for him. So this the day the basketball died apparently, Don mclean's life. You know, what it sounds like it sounds like a guy who needs five passes to get open and hit a shot because he wide open shots Adama claim UCLA, I guess legend. I got Don mclean's rookie basketball car. This is herb take. If I've ever heard one, listen, bro. This man is is set to set the the seventh most points per game in the season on average thirty six points per game. This is a generational score. Is the dude who has lightened people up to the tune of getting fifty point triple doubles like is nothing Sebaq, relaxing joy his show. College basketball. Does he feel like the kareem's hook shot was manipulating the game too much or or shack backing down to Kim by boot tumble and and abusing him in a finals was manipulating game. No, you use the rules, and you use your talent to the best year ability and on top is not like he's just taking thirty shots against the dude is one of the best patches in the game as well. So Don, you got team got thirty piece last night. I can understand might be upset about that. But James harden is a joy to behold aesthetically can understand why some people may have a problem with it. But in the end saying that it might be cheating the game. He's doing nothing illegal. The refs are all out there watching the NBA hasn't commented on it. And he's he's. On a historic pace. This dude might win is second in VP, and it should probably be his third VP on top of it. I'm not with the whole cheating. The game thing the game. The game moves on the game transcends. And the fact that a little bit of street ball has been brought to the NBA is not a problem is well, you mentioned Kareem it's Jason Goth filling in for Spain and Fitz on ESPN radio. And that's where this. This is where it is all hinged on for me. It's that hardness essentially like tech disruption. He looked at the rules. You said you get two steps by can I take him backwards trying to cover it. Right. And that's the move that gets people. The most fired up is the step back three. It's tough to guard. He knows how to draw fouls. He goes to the line more than almost anybody. And so that bothers people it's not a static pleasing. When it feels like he's traveling every time, even though he's not sometimes he is absolutely. But a lot of times it's just him innovating and Evelyn of the game is tough for those two are used to seeing it one way. And yet you can see the old school style a bit with the warriors and really appreciate ball movement and appreciate great shooting. But that's not to say that. That's the only way basketball can be played. We talked about this on around the horn today. And this is a guy who like I said fifty five thirty point games this year team is third in the west despite injuries. They were eleventh when he had to go on his historic street when Chris Paul went out. He didn't even take the most shots last night. He was third most in shots taken last night behind cappella and Paul and he was tied with the cysts. He is leading the league in deflections and second in steals. He's playing a much more complete game than you would think if you're just looking at box scores or highlights and in the end Ramona Shelburne said it perfectly on around the horn, he's doing this because no one can stop him to best ask it ball. If you score every time, you try because someone else can't stop you. Whether or not you pass it around a bunch before you do it, sir. That's the most agreed just part of the statement to me is he actually said these words, quote who else could do this. That's the points. That's the point bold greatness. Like his point is because this system is designed to allow him and others have made that point this year. I so he's. He's saying. This is because of the system like, no, I don't think that's his point. He just doesn't like this system. And so he's saying if everyone was given the opportunity. Yeah. I mean, we'll have to call Don clean might be busy recording his new album. I don't think any new stuff is coming out from. We are saying we are stamping. It is the same guy. Exactly, right. I don't know if the next one fifty needs a new a new theme song down it'd be on it. It's also perfect. There's also many things are probably be saved for podcast. But it ties in the hand of the American pie song. This kind of take James harden being the target of it. If you love picking role basketball, which everyone loves the Stockton Malone was doing it. Who's a better pick and roll play in the NBA right now Namie one maybe one. The James harden, contempt is amazing to me. And like you mentioned over the last year and a half. He's played better defense than the narrative would allow you to believe too. So not that the fact that he has to do it because Chris Paul and Clin cappella missed so much time the fact that these they've been surrounded by shooters. So it allows the floor to be space. Don't get mad because there's a glitch in the matrix point guy. And by the way that Don McLean sound from Fox Sports west that from the game last night as as the thunder like you said put a hurting on them made them pay for it. One hundred thirty five to one hundred gleaners thirty piece. I can't say that like. Herb Brown ring from the diaphragm thirty piece of thirty piece that is there it is. I think you're right. This is just the same kind of take. We see when someone doesn't like a backflip. Right. It's about a style. Evelyn? It's about a disruption to the game. And I fully admit that. I did not enjoy watching hardened step bags for while. I did think I'm watching travel every time. And then when somebody put it into perspective to say, you get two steps he's taken him backwards. That was it. That was all I needed to say. All right, listen, I might not find a sickly pleasing. But this is an innovation. This is brilliance. This is us watching someone changed the way. This is the same thing that we got excited about with Steph curry shooting from eight feet behind the three point line. But because it's not peer shooting. We can't get behind it. The same way that's the difference. There was a time. When a point guard was all these supposed to distribute the ball hit free throws an open jump shots. And then Alan Iverson came in the game at six foot and one hundred seventy. Five pounds was like I can be to guard. I can be a league. And now, what do you have in the league you've got twenty guys at that position? Who if you're not averaging seventeen more people are looking at you like, we can replace you. It was a time when a guy like Michael Jordan was dot dune who's jumping over people would go change and dope sweatsuits and losing Larry Bird in the Eastern Conference first round. And he transcended the game as well. Like, there's a certain catch up period that a lot of people have to have when it comes to different styles and innovations of basketball, this is just one of them. This has been happening in pick up games on basketball courts all around this country for a while. Now, it's just the fact that now it's on a center stage, and people might think that the game is being played the wrong way. No, go to any local pickup games. He had a game is being played Goth. You know, it's easy. It works. For hoops. It works for life. Evolve or die down to Spain fence Jason off tune in for fits he by the way, twenty thousand baseball season is underway. The tune in app has every baseball fan covered all the way from the start to the World Series. Listen to your favorite team with live. Calls for every MLB game with tune in premium. You're all in one audio app. Tune in brings together not only MLB coverage, but other live sports music news and podcasts, including all your favorite ESPN radio podcast. Like, that's what she said. Was there Spain download the tune inap- and begin your free thirty day trial of tune in premium today. So coming up next who should be the MVP. We'll get a take from someone who's been up close with the action all season long next in Spain in fits Sarah Spain with you as always Jason Gosselin in for Fitz on ESPN radio the espionage, Sirius XM channel eighty we're joined now on the shell Pennzoil performance line. ESPN NBA writer, Tim Bontemps, Tim, you report of a group of people talking NBA MVP on ESPN dot com. When you decided whatever criteria are gonna use it. We're not going to get into that. Who is the MVP for you this year, there's still a couple of days left. So I guess Sarah something crazy could happen here over the fast over the final week. Dick, navy sway me one way or the other. But warring barring something dramatic happening. Big is going to be honest. Compulsive MVP. I think when you look at the totality of the box. Don this year for his great. As James harden has been as an offense of force. Maybe unlike the game has ever seen Jaanus dominant two-way force could be you know, arguably the defensive player of the year. Also could arguably be the MVP he's essentially prime shack with the ability to dribble and pass like guard. I think he's now the best player in the world. And I think just with the way he has dominated at both ends of the court for a buck. Steam that is easily the best team in the league. And so typically one of the best teams of all time. Arguably I think that to me he's the guy that deserves this award and interest, and frankly, I don't think there's a wrong answer to when if you do did you make the case for for harden? I think it's totally reasonable one. My preference, though, is it's free honest to win the words here. I'm little scared of Janas game being pushed Hayward Vance and soon. You know, there's been guys that we've seen before who always at the rim and playing that kind of pace and and play with that kind of force internati. And now we're talking about what's the next level of Janas game. Is this guy who can stay in this area? And this all where he gets his work done for few more years before we forced to jump shot on him because I feel like there have been guys Vince Carter who attack the rim the way he did. And then all of a sudden floated out to the perimeter. I think far before his time, you think Janas is in that weird window where people are going to start asking them to do other things. Or is he going to force himself to do other things next coming years? I think comparing Biscardi honest is Franklin insult the hones-, which is is probably be not fair to Vince. Who's a, you know, probably got a chance to be in the hall of fame and Celtic. Yeah. Thank you on it down at this much. Well, I think you on us is is on all the Brian James kinda track much more than if it's transfer more these mass Mason of his game forcing him out to all the perimeter bananas. What I mean like, I think to me it's like if you go back to LeBrun like when my Brian really took off like forty eight special against the pistons. Right. That was LeBron just repeatedly packing the rim. Will right? He wasn't necessarily can use a better shooter at that point. Then you honest, but still not great Mike when he really became transcended with the heat. It was when he started making thirty eight to forty percent of his threes. Right. That was kind of when it was like, holy crap. Like, how do you possibly guard this guy who can literally everything that? That's the one party, honest is gain that isn't quite there yet, you know, he he can knock down a three occasionally. But it's certainly not something anybody is Mr Lee worried about him doing, and if he ever gets to the point where he could shoot thirty five percent from three and be like a real threat from there. I just think he might he might truly be the most unguarded guy issue. Even more than say guy like hardness now with that step back shot. 'cause I mean, if you honest shoot threes, and you can't back off and do that. I just what you do because here's a seven footer with crazy wingspan who's maybe the fastest kind of cork. Who's maybe the biggest and strongest court who you know, like, I can basically play the point and get to the rim on anybody as it is. And if you've got play up on him to prevent it from shooting the ball, I don't know how you stop. So I mean to me, I think giving hardy works, I think that's gonna be something. He's gonna spend a lot of time working on and trying to get better at and even if he doesn't do it like, I don't think his mentality is going to change because he's always been a guy, that's like attack the rim. And I think that's probably the way his games always gonna be predicated. But if he can develop any kind of jump shot, I just think it makes that much more deadly of a weapon to try to stop at that point amount of not sure anybody, but to stay in Spain Jason Goss filling in for fits denied, any SPN radio talking to Tim Bon temps, ESPN NBA writer, while we've got you in bucks. They take on the. Sixers tonight, eight o'clock eastern, what do you make of this Milwaukee team as they head into the postseason so strong for so long? But these injuries are really making it tougher to tell just who will be available for them in the postseason. I mean, they're one of the I think the question of just how good the bucks are is one of the most interesting to watch the playoffs. Like, I said before you look at their overall statistical profile, and it's legitimately of an all time great team in the regular season. That said there are a lot of people around the league or skeptical of this team, whether it is because you honest can't really be ineffective shooter. There's because they don't trust guys. Eric Bledsoe and brook Lopez Malcolm brogden and Nico Americans to be, you know, really, effective guys. Keep members of a bathrobe Dacian whether it is your point the injuries. They have the brogden Fitch, and you know, Middleton just missed a couple of games. I mean, some of the guys they've had out. Whether it's also just the fact that Mike seems disappointed plans to the play offs. And these guys haven't won a playoff series. Right. I mean, all those factors together have people doubting the scene is and a lot of ways. It reminds me of the twenty fourteen fifteen warriors who, you know, higher per went six six games going to the play offs Abidine that that looks like. It can really be an all time team. And what it everybody do the whole playoffs at every turn right now. Did they could beat Memphis when they went down to one. They weren't sure they could be Houston when it was causing started series. Weren't sure they could beat the Cavs. When they were down to one even Doc Rivers that summer said while they didn't have to play anybody full strength into playoff. So, you know, who knows what would happen if they get right? So like in every turn they got dollars even after the one that's idle, and I feel like for this year's bucks team. They're going to have a similar path. Whether they win the fight or not, I think people are gonna find reasons to be skeptical of them at every level the ploughs until they either win at all or get beat by somebody. They take on the seventy Sixers tonight who've lost two games in a row three of their last five. And if it weren't for the the Celtics, I think more is would be on. Why this team is in Phil functioning on all cylinders the way that people might think if you just throw the names out there the starting five if they present what's been happening with the seventy Sixers outside of injury are pieces still having trouble fitting into the places they need to. Have such a short time since the trade deadline. I think it's a couple of things Jason I think for one they only played this starting five is excellent together. I think plus twenty two or something like that. But they've only played ten games together at this point, which is kind of remarkable given where you know week from the blouse starting right? The fact that the starting lineup for the Sixers is, you know, fairly play together at all is not a great fine for their chances of developing cohesion to go deep, and what is a really loaded these conference. Then there's also the fact that the other guys on their team outside of the starting five are pretty pretty weak. If you look at the rest of their the rest of their rotation outside of outside of Mike, Scott, I think is the one guy other teams look at reliable bench piece in the playoff series needed him. He's had some questionable decision making and games at times at the rest of their guys. Whether it's on out of it or the of McConnell, whether it's Jonathan Simmons. What are change NS? None of these guys are guys that you look at and go I can really count on. Them to make plays in a playoff series. So yeah, that's thirty five is great the numbers. They put up our great. They're going to be a handful for any team to go up against. But you know, the fact that they have barely played together. And the fact that the rest of that roster is, you know, certainly lacking from a talent standpoint, I think it's gonna be difficult for them to put this all together. You know, there's a reason she'd walls to the pistons like the one time in the last twenty years that a team has made a huge midseason trade and gone on to win a title, right? It's really hard to establish cohesion. And when you look at when you look at the Sixers who were trying to do it on the fly with multiple big moves in a year awfully big challenge. About wreck round to try to pull off your Philly stim- Bontemps ESPN MBA writer. Hey before let you go quickly. When you look at the east as we head towards the postseason is there a team that was your favorite at the beginning of the or most of the year and things have moved around or maybe even an early exit that you didn't expect early on that you think will happen now. I've been I've had Rana was my favorite to get out of the east and stay one. And they remain that way. I saw him last night in New York against the nets in Brooklyn. And they they're look like they're rounding inform. I think that the deepest team. I think they have the ability to play in any possible way. Askhat Siachen has become a star this year. Kyle Lowry in Leonard are also level players. They add Mark assault on damn Danny green shooting. Forty six percent from three this year. They're really deep. The really talented. I think they've been preparing for this all season long been experimenting with Linus of ready for the play offs. And you know, I think when the when the rubber hits the road here in the postseason expect Toronto to be playing Golden State, and FOX awesome stuff. Thanks for the time and enjoyed the game tonight. Absolutely. I tried me. Good stuff that east is going to keep us all guessing, I think because the bucks get healthy again. It's gonna be a tough one main offense Jason filling in for fence. We are presented by progressive insurance. Coming up next pop just being pop or something you should be criticized for and how much of this stems from the relationship between players and refs. We'll get to next. It's pain in bits here Spain with you as always Jason Goff filling in for Jason Fitz on ESPN radio. You can always hit us up on the one hundred flowers dot com Twitter feed at sarahspain at Jason one Gough at Spain and fits that was from altitude sports, the call that objection there afterwards, he jumps into the post game interview for the opposing coach nuggets. Coach Michael Malone doing his post game interviews crack some jokes about it. You know, does the typical pop move. Is it funny to you? Or is it maybe like, hey, man. Try not to get addicted twice a week and lose three of your win three of your last eight games and fall below the thunder. Standings? Well, it's the fastest objection in league history beat flips on the light flips on his by a whole, forty-three seconds. So that's something for the record books. But you know, a lot of stuff to pop does is cute to everyone else. I I respect him as a coach I think the sideline reporting thing has kind of taken on a life of its own where people are just trying to do their jobs in the end if this team doesn't live up to certain expectations because it's not like the didn't get anything back for violin it, right? They got Dhamar Rosen who was a perennial all star the Marcus Aldridge who was a all star. They just haven't played good enough basketball. And if this is one of those ways you can innovate, you know, some kind of or motivate some kind of energy for your team by didn't thrown out of the game. It hasn't worked last times. That's the thing. This is like a lot of what pop does. But you've got a team that couldn't be working to avoid the warriors in the first round of the playoffs. And instead you fall behind the thunder for the second game that he. Mrs that you lose. And you know, it was interesting listing doors Burke this morning on golick and wingo because the conversation about pop in his objection lead to a larger conversation about the relationship between the Rapson players in the league. And particularly how many veteran respected officials have left in recent years causing generation of younger Fs who are trying to not only establish themselves and relationships with the players, but also get the calls, right and figure out the flow of the game. And we've seen some demonstrative interactions between coaches and rest players reps. And it's had doers. Pretty worried about what it looks like to yours. There is a level of disrespect and then push Gration coming back from the officials where I'm in my homeless fan watching things, and I'm cringing. So I'm wondering what the casual viewer of the NBA think I think the frustration has built to a point for coaches for players for these fficials the level of discourses cut to change. And what the answer is. I don't know. But as a fan, I'm concerned. What do you make of that Goff? Are would Scott foster first entered the league? And there was a time when I was doing pre game and post game next Steve Holman for the Atlanta Hawks and Atlanta and Scott foster was the new guy who's the target. Everybody knew the Scott foster was a guy who's trying to prove himself. And now, you know, what you're gonna get out scofflaw. So I think that every time we get a new batch of referees. There's a certain establishing the needs to be set a foundational period that needs to be said. And I think we're just seeing more and more into it because you know, other than VP storyline. There's not a lot of storylines on down the stretch of the season. I don't know if it's an issue doors put it in some pretty grave terms just now in terms of disrespect and all the other stuff. But I don't know that it's it's huge an issue as that as it is a bunch of restaurant and establish themselves. And also make sure that they are respected going for. Now. The problem is if you're not allowing that that back and forth because you are working together on in in again, you know, the reps and the players. It just looks like the authority figures of the rest. We always talk about them with something bad happens, but they're working together. So if you can't have a working relationship with guys can ask you things, you know, how did I guard that guy what what did I do on that one? Then that's a problem. But if it's all outright disrespect because you think you could punk a young dude within some of these guys aren't going for it. And I can understand that. Yeah. I think it's actually both ways. Right. It's it's that they need to work together. And if you've got players who are immediately jumping all over dudes that doesn't work out. And if you've got a fficials on a power trip who won't listen to guys explaining their case without immediately charging technical. That's an issue to look at the warriors the other night. They were adamant that the referees. Had messed up all the calls and that late loss to the timber was to the point where they got find a whole bunch of money for blatantly almost aggressively and definitely disrespectfully clowning the officials during that and the NBA's two minute report said that none of them were wrong. None of those calls. It doesn't make. It right. And it doesn't fix it in the moment. But there is something to be said for needing to figure out this relationship. So fans at home aren't questioning whether things are being done the right way NBA on ESPN radio. 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Patrick O'Neal

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Patrick O'Neal

"You're listening to an LA kings podcast for more episodes of this and every other kings program visit L. A. Kings Dot com slash podcast. You're listening to all the king's men the official podcast of the La Kings. Now here's your host Jesse Cohen. Joining me now. You know him. You Love Him Patrick. O'neal Patrick. I'm good will. They know me odd people love. You don't know how they do. Of course I'm old. Okay man how are you? I'm great I don't have any bubble stuff like you but but I'm doing all right. Got Hot running water and a roof over. I didn't I didn't have you referring to my My video that was put on twitter. The social media me taking a bubble bath at the end. In case you don't understand what the hell you're talking about searching around my place for bubble bath and I didn't have any but I found this It was like from Was that plays bodyworks. And it was like said baths. Oh and I'm like I wonder if this'll work for as bubble bath as poured half of it in. I realized yes in fact it does. Yeah well I was going to ask you how much how much of the body is down fact. Well it was great. It was funny. People really responded to fourteen. Yeah I saw fourteen people I socially. Yeah Real Push Chevrolet move the needle so we found out from streaming You know all those games on Bailey. Channel the rest of the of the season simulated. Yeah you guys. Weren't you one out. You didn't just did not lose a game. I lost one to Dallas on their own. Yeah I think they went eleven. Run twelve on something like that but but we realized just how much the symbol active congregating to watch games. And you know we were talking about it. You know the specific things we miss. I'm just curious Is there anything that you particularly miss about going to staples doing the game's going on the road? Every next -solutely everything kidding. I mean it's I guess cliche. It's like Oh you take it for granted or pushed into perspective but this is the longest I haven't worked in twenty years. You know so. It's like the first week of the shutdown. I was kind of a little bit of denial. Shock I just laid on the couch. Bit didn't do much and then The my daughter came home and she was She added quarantine. She wasn't feeling well so the now is like two weeks of that so we figured out that she wasn't six but you know so. That was sort kept my mind on stuff but I just missed people really. You know your your family that you work with Every day and and come up with creative things. I'm lucky that I have a creative job. And and so you miss that that muscle that you get to use a lot is being creative and talking and coming up. A CONVERSATION IN STORYLINES CHANGE EVERY GAME. So you just you know you definitely miss it and I look forward to you know when it's back next year plot of you know don't work to sports like you do so for us. It was like all right. Well we're chopping off the last eleven twelve games of the season but we're winding down towards the off season anyway so obviously there's concerns and you want to produce content everything but you would have been just ramping up for baseball Which now has been postponed as well. I'm curious in better years when this sort of thing doesn't happen. How do you handle juggling two teams to lineups to front offices to fan bases? How do you split your attention that that way? Well the only tricky part be towards the end of the hockey season when games that overlap and you know depending on where the kings were In the standings I generally at the the angels home opener Or on the road. I've done them but I tend to like to finish what I start so you know I would love to be able to just do every kings game and then jump into the angels. They the season opener is the home. Opener is those were pretty big games. Our Pre game show so I kinda WanNa do that. I WANNA do it all. But you can't but as far as going from one sport to the other. I don't really have any I don't feel like it's a challenge. A really for me because I'm used to it and As far storylines in knowing the teams. I always go to spring training for this year. I was ever eight nine days so I really got to know the angels team very very well in the past have been. It'd be like three days so you just do anything right. You just prepare and you're ready to go and and I work with great people that help keep me prepared and the analysts either. Jose or Jose motive salmon or working with Margaritas and Victoria Hospital. Just guys work with so. I think it's easy because of the relationships that I've built so I don't. I don't mind jumping from sport to sport and You know that's been blessed consistently for for twenty years now Really Seventeen or eighteen with with Oxford's west doing all these sports. And what a lucky guy I imagine every franchise has its own culture identity and I certainly know that every sport has its own culture and identity. Is there any massive difference between baseball and hockey? Like can you joke around with some groups players more you get more access with are the players are the fans you know more passionate in some cities in some sports than others. I think it's it's changed a little bit with you. Know the AUSMAN Social Media Kinda jumped in nine or whatever and you know prior to social media. Maybe it was maybe a little more open Now I think its players are probably more guarded now and I think You're seeing Teams really locked down like access to players a little bit more than they did. In the past kings have been very are strict with your sess and they have every right to to do that to make sure their players are prepared and ready to go. But you know it's definitely delamore tight-lipped a little bit like you know back. When I first started going into rooms in the early two thousand I started radio Just felt like a little. Yeah you could joke around a little bit more. I mean I always try to add that aspect to my work. I try to be to add humor to my work because it is sports and I think the idea is to have a sense of fun and you know and try to get them to smile shows personality in and Whatnot. So more serious. Now I think but no. There's not not a huge difference other than you know. The the the sports are are are different. But you have good. Yeah of like Certain athletes that are more receptive and certainly others. That aren't and I would say baseball players in in general in the regular season are little more protective in not wanting to be open to the media as much as like hockey players. I think you know in evidence is hockey players. All the best athletes to cover. I would still say that is true for sure. It was just always amuses me that the dugout and and the bench in hockey at at first glance. It's it's the same thing right. It's much guy sitting around not waiting for their turn to play but in baseball. There's so much downtime. You get stuff like the bubble gum on the hats or the you know the little pranks they plan each other whereas in hockey any forty five seconds you could be you know you. Can't I just always I bet the? Nhl would love to see that kind of personality. But he just can't. It just can't happen but the kings have done it while bringing in all sorts of guests and guest stars and just curious over the last handful of seasons. If there's any that you particularly remember meeting or interviewing or got a kick out of maybe they surprised you. There were more fun than you thought they might be the last couple of years. We've had those those Saturday games right and you worked on those and we get to meet. You know really cool people. Everybody's everybody's different and you know I definitely thought Jeff Garland was hysterical really They made me laugh a lot and I got to go back and talk to will Ferrell Before he went on as Ron Burgundy on I got to go into this little room where he was to to you know I wanted to ask him. Forget exactly what my angle was and I said. Oh Yeah I wanted to ask. I want to do sideline report and So I I asked a question like what would Ron Burgundy say about? You know you know what the game of hockey means to him and he was he was like just see his brain working as will up on like a great answer and I just thought man that's so cool to see him kind of go through his his creative process he really wanted to lock it in and then I got to got to say it on Air. And then he he came back at me and said like wasn't worrying. He could smell them out. I didn't smell good or Guy So funny I love these people but there's been there's been so many great ones. It's hard to single amount. Did he stay in character or did he start talking to you as will Farrell and then transferred he? No he didn't stay character he was like I was talking to will. That's great just two people trying to come up with a bit in a way you know. And so he was like. Hey Patrick and I guess he kind of just was talking me like he knew me as the sports reporter I wish I could have told him a story. Where back in my acting days? When I had a callback for night at the Roxbury I love him. I never the trainer guy. You know there was a Guy. There was always a guy in the movie. Lifted weights with Obviously he got the part and I didn't but I got to. I got I got to do. I got to act in this audition with will and I forget. The other guy's name brain's not working so well. He's so funny. Chris Catan the other day our data. So I got to do this you guys. I know I know will would not remember that. I interviewed him. Also assign a Laker game too. So he's so darn funny. Yeah absolutely a little a pullback. The curtain for Kings Fans because I've noticed as as the more experience I get working with you and and being a part of the telecast the more I realized how much is planned out and and the more I get You know the odd comments from fans who don't realize that certain elements are planned out so one thing. I certainly never knew as you guys do. A Pre game meeting. Can you walk fans through a little bit of the daily schedule of hosting you know an unwieldy monster alive? Nhl Hockey game. Yeah that's that's the great part of it is every day is something new new story lines. I get to work with to really talented producers and Steve Dorfman we know Hoover Joel goodling. Who also so hoover produces the game and and Joel produces the pre-game in the post game and hoover does the intermission content that we do a lot of together and so yeah and then Allison Jim In our stage managers and Jerrell come in there and We needed like for fifteen or thirty for seven thirty game and it probably lasts about fifteen. Maybe fifteen to thirty minutes tops. We always try to get out of there and get the dinner and you know but the producers have put in a lot of work either the you know constantly right the night before. They lay out a rundown. And there's a game rundown that hoover does a game run down. The Joel does and we'll try to communicate morning of the game at least my perspective of things that I wanna talk about so maybe Ceylon hits that. I'm GONNA do or topics that we wanna hit the pre-game show and sometimes things break and we'll add those and then So then they add to the format and then when we go to the meeting. We just kind of refresh. Everybody's memory of what we're GONNA do in the game and then you know you know one two three go team and then we are and then they're able to then go back to the truck and then those guys have a lot more than we do. We're there eating or whatever they're still putting finishing touches in in the trump T- truck on animations and graphics and billboards to pay the bills and There are in there then. The dinner break than those guys are doing. The hard part right for the next four hours straight. And it's when things go. Well it's seamless Reich's are scraped. They're all they're all real pros at their job or the best in the business and so then at the end of the night you walk back to your car. And sometimes I'll walk with hoover and we'll talk about what we thought how it went and when it goes well we like what really well tonight in them do it again. It's kind of a fun. That's what makes the job. Great everybody kind of. It's like a team right team. Broadcast team You know for me. I get to do a lot of talking. I'm like all right. What what how do I feel you know on my walk home and hopefully I? I feel good enough to get good night's sleep and not stress out about it and then are times when I wish I could have could hit that a little better or are you know stuck out a little bit. But it's live TV. I did the best I can. And sometimes most of the time it works. Sometimes you wish he'd do a little bit better. But I think Bob Miller of ice to. Alice feels the same way. But those guys are are so good at their job. But Bobby sometimes fret over call that he felt he missed rather than the ninety nine point nine percent right. Now you know such perfectionist. And that's what makes them so good at their job is like I could see that number. Just missed that just a little. Bit McMahon play by play in hockey. You still so. I'm always impressed even when things don't go right. I'm impressed at how well the team pulls him off. I remember one intermission. I showed up and You Jared and I found out. I don't know two minutes before coming back to cameras. Were down and so the three of us had to run from the lower concourse up to the premier level out to the balcony set. And you know I spoke to my father than following Daddy. He had no idea that we weren't supposed to be doing the intermission. Hit from the balcony right despite the fact that I was completely red-faced and flushed sweating from running. But that's what makes it fun. That was crazy and then I hope I made some little comment like you know like just another easy intermission inside joke for all of us. Not How chaotic. It was to make that happen. But yeah like PA's carrying chairs hymie audio's running around and they're plugging things in counting down from ten. It was nuts. I know that's crazy. I'm I'm really glad you told the Bob Miller story because one of the things I'm most fascinated by is imposter syndrome right. I experience it all the time no matter how long do this no matter how many opportunities I'm giving? I always sort of feel like I'm just a fan with Mike who got lucky right and I don't I still don't really feel like I belong in the position. I'm in talking to fans the way I do. I'm curious how you combat that if it ever comes up in the back of your brain yeah I mean just know. There's I guess there's a reason why you're doing it and that you continue to do it is because you're good at you know. I mean obviously not everybody's going to love you or thank you do a good job but you know Love your hate. You have an opinion about but right you know I think that you know. There's there's a reason why you're doing what you're doing is you're talented. You're knowledgeable and you're entertaining. And so you know I think a lot of it has yet to have tremendous belief in yourself and early on in my career and I can think back to the you know the immense nerves I would have you know or especially like something that does it hit my brain right away. There's little drip sweat hitting the forehead. Yup I just think I just think with time you know over time and in in the more you do something the better you get at it and I definitely think I have improved at my job over the years and I think I I don't go back and but I would like to someday. I'll look back at how I was as a host in two thousand five versus two thousand twenty or even two thousand and two. I think I added at. The guy had probably looked at eighteen years younger but opposite the best. I think I always was trying to find a way to be as entertaining in bring humor To what I was doing every single every single time but I think I've gotten more comfortable You know the INS and outs going to breaks hitting you know being on time and being comfortable in all situations so it happens over time to get more you get more comfortable but there's always somebody at the door right. You gotta stay on top of your game. soup probably somebody wants your job. I always tell anybody that'll listen that I couldn't do what I've done without you. And then I'm constantly impressed at. Thank how you managed that job because it's got to be difficult? Let's talk about stuff on the ice. You've overseen this team grow you've seen it go from a non contender to the flagship team in the NHL. Back now down to the lower rungs of the standings but is there any player on the team. Currently that excites you. That you're looking forward to seeing their career blossom. Well I think You know I'm a big. I like Alex I follow. I really think he had a great year. I'm very impressed with his poise. You know out there especially these guys that are that are undrafted and he just you know year is what are your three es playing with Kotaro and in big time situations against matchups in in the best guys in the NHL is always drawn. Those tough match-up stolman away. And I really like his game and I think he was on on pace to obviously. It was already career for him. But you know if Alice get to be like a twenty to twenty five goal scorer going forward. And let's say there's another wing with co Petar That's not Alexai. Follow in in perfect world. Maybe slot him down And you know you're going to get from his game so big fan of his Really like the play. Blake was on as well you know. Obviously we're always looking for more offense right so But man he He's always so so prepared in Hungary and just loves to compete lots of work right and you just have to remind her admire baton and and you can see glimpses of of you know top. End Skill Right For a rookie. Young guy like that. Twenty two years old. I think that there's a pretty high ceiling for him wherever they they saw him in a perfect world. Down down the road When this team is going to be built for the playoffs you know he's GonNa be ready to to play whatever role you WANNA put him in and be able to compete and succeed I love the speed of Adrian. Kempe I really do. I really think he's Name guys that we've seen unthinking kempe's he's such a great player You just you know. Get get some more goals you know right. I mean I know. These seven ended the scoring early. But man if he can just he he's got it all you know he really does. And He's Eve's tough this year. I thought he really battled So I'm excited to see Cambay. Continue to blossom I WanNa see how much you know. More Quick Scott in the tank in Brown in Copenhagen in dowding these guys you know so I wanna I wanna see the veteran guys. Continue to be hungry I know I know they will be but I wonder like how you know. See you know. Keep a Golan 'cause they're going to need to be a huge parts. Hard Abbey's over guys ended the younger guys in in. How do they meet? You know what time if it's if it's next year or two years than a veteran guys are two years older so it remains to be seen how that's all going to work out but Less about those Those four names. You mentioned there. Quick Dowdy Brown and Kobe Tar. There were some brief conversation recently this week on twitter with Jim Fox and it's a conversation that sort of bubbles up from time to time in different parts of the Phantom and the question basically goes like this. How many of them get their jerseys retired? And then I'll add this extra question. All four of them are on that King's fiftieth anniversary statue. But how many of them would you give their own individual statues out front in the Statue Garden outside the Staples Center? Well To me I think Jonathan is One of the most clutch athletes in Los Angeles sports history. You're talking to championships and so to me to me. Quick the guy for sure That that I would consider giving a statue to about jumping quick I would retire. All their numbers You know whether I put him up there for sure No question no questions asked. That's that's that's what I would do. I mean but but as far as the Statue Jonathan Quick. I don't think you know you now. It is hockey in southern California. You know it's not on a level of of baseball basketball football. You know it's just it's just the way it is but we have you just look at the parades. Hundreds of thousands of fans in this in this town. You know that hurt huge kings fans and they're just passionate fans in there. We all feel like we're part of the same family. And you know part of the same sorority but you know they're just they're so They know that those four guys all deserve their numbers retired and they know that that Jonathan Quick is one of the most clutch athletes in Los Angeles Sports History Those those two cups and and to be the goaltender to be the guy to get it done so I gave him the statute no doubt. There's a moment. In the two thousand. Twelve game six Nano two seconds after the Buzzer is sounded. And they've been you know they've clearly won the Stanley Cup in doughty and quicker standing. I don't know six inches apart with both of their. You know each of them has their hands up in the air and their equipment has gone flying. I always thought that'd be a nice way to knock out one statue with two guys in that moment and I don't know you'd have to find. Something for Cobra turned Brown. Maybe share but I agree with you. All four numbers obviously going up And it doesn't coping Brownie. They got that that one statue. Yeah kind of Ryak as well. That's the thing started kind of like eight guys on it. Yeah and it's You know but yeah. It's I think if you're going to pick one guy. Would you agree? Or what do you think yeah I mean I would look. I'm a Kings Fan. So my attitude is just throw out every king statute you can just just to balance out the the Lakers. And the the king's writing there's what three if you include the Bob Miller Statute for the kings and I dunno feels like five or six for the for the Lakers in presumably. Koby will wind up getting one. So I'm all for the for them the the interesting conversations that I hear people getting into our Jeff Carter get his number retired Justin Williams get his number retired. You know and then people bring up whether or not Bitch Butch. Goring should have his number up there and you know also yeah. I mean that's I mean that's an argument right Butch I think you look at. Gp's look at Games played the organization. And you're GONNA have You know obviously Kobe. Tar and and Brown while over thousand and Andrew. Next year I would assume a thousand is already a thousand no not next year but I mean he that close already. Yeah yeah he's he should hit it. I mean we. We missed twelve games. Whatever this year so you know that might put it in jeopardy after you might have to play a full season to get an extra. But he's in the nine hundred and nine thousand nine hundred right now allies so that he would need a full season next yet. Amaze it would like seventy games or something next year. I came in when he was eighteen. I always forget that he just yeah. So then you figure he's GonNa. He's got eating whatever. He has seven more years. I don't know exact guy's GonNa play Fourteen Hundred Games Brown twelve hundred go. Petar should play fourteen hundred and then quick. You know obviously already. You know you're going to retire. His number as it is but I think he knows he you know he believes he has plenty more in the tank I thought he I thought quick played great towards the you know whatever the second half of the season you know man what a rough start it was but and his both in. Macau like the last. I have zero notes in front of me. But they were like the last six games last six starts. Detroit worked their numbers. Just unreal one of the analytics guys. made a graph of quicks Overlays every goalies season on top of each other onto the same graph in the first half of the season. Let's say quick was statistically speaking the worst Olien League but over the second half he's like the best in the league. I mean really really turned his season around and at the beginning of the season I would have said confidently. There's no way that Seattle would take him in an expansion draft just because his numbers are on the decline. But as you know cap. Hit isn't and he's only getting older but based on how he played. Yeah you're right down the stretch. Why wouldn't Seattle take? Yeah I guess it depends who believe things Li available. Yeah it'll be fascinating when it does come back. It'll be a fascinating season. What do you think it's going to happen Jesse Like and I made this on night. I said it on on twitter and up bands want want sports. I want to get back to work and watch orange but just just you know put an end to this the season the NBA Nhl Playoffs. I mean And then this idea that they're gonNA play baseball in May and in Arizona or whatever. Just just just wait. You know. I know there's so many things to determine you know logistically but just pray for a half a baseball season and don't even attempt a Stanley Cup or an NBA championship Eat other canceling events to cancel the Olympics. Cancel Amblin all everything else is getting pushed. Martin Adams has gone. Yeah Yeah I don't like I can handle bad news. I don't like uncertainty so I'd rather them just say and particularly since the Kings weren't GonNa make the playoffs right. It's a little easier for fans of teams in the bottom half of the standings to say. Yeah just call it. Let's get onto the draft. Let's go onto the draft lottery. Let's get onto free agency because presumably if you just call it than October rolls around to start a season. But I mean I saw Sarajevo Brodsky. Today very upset at the idea that they might cancel the regular season because of course. Florida's three points out of a playoff spot and southern. But Yeah I can you imagine like I urge up artists. Like Gosh. She'll be may as well just can't what because trying to get back in shape guys aren't the same type of shape that they were towards the end of the when they were playing every night So and just you got. You're going to risk injury in some of the ramp it up through play playoff hockey or shorten playoff series. And it just doesn't make any sense. I guess we'll wait and see. Yeah but I mean they've you know this would be the third time that the Stanley Cup wasn't awarded since Its inception and you know. We survived the first to just fine so it would stink obviously for teams like Edmonson in Toronto and. I'm sure there you know that are clearly a playoff spot and this was in their fan bases. We'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO IT. And Blah Blah Blah. But you know that's life now like even like a guy when you look at personal records like Ovechkin was on his way to another fifty goal season that now that does not. He's on his way to try to chase down. Gretzky. You'RE GONNA take some of those games away and Milestones that were in reach for a lot of a lot of players in NAM. They're probably worried about this a lot of money. It's not money. That's they got to divvy up somehow. That's too complicated for me to figure out. And there's trade kickers like you know the Kings would have you know. The third round pick from Toronto would have become a second. If makes the playoffs and Jack Campbell. Get six wins and now right. That can't happen so someone smarter than me. We'll figure that all that out but about I'm curious as to tie it back to your Patrick. You know we're talking about milestones in games played in that sort of thing. It occurred to me recently that I have no. I've no idea how many episodes of this podcast I've done. I have no idea how many games I've been to just never thought to track those and so now it's too too deep into it even worry about it. Do you know how many games you've called do you keep some and I and I I kind of I think about that a lot. That's that's so funny that you ask that question but I was trying to do the mattress in hockey I know if you combine all of this in the last since I joined Fox sports west in the animal four You know that's like fifteen. See this is my fifteen king season but the first. Yeah but the first eight. I only did home games Because I did Lakers King Saul and then in thirteen coming out of that work stoppage. I did go on the road for the playoffs twelve but starting thirteen January. That was first time. I travelled road because we no longer did. Those Laker Lakers went to another channel. And that's what I did not want full-time King. So if you just lived from thirteen six at seven seasons like six and a half of probably seventy games because a lot of those games go to network so you know so. That's and then if you take the first eight before that I'm only doing half like what two fifty and then some probably like seven hundred fifteen years not even close to a thousand Dang Regular Season Games. Bud If you look at Just simple math of you know going from either basketball hockey straight into baseball exited. The dodgers right before that for nine eight or nine seasons and it's probably thousands three thousand. I would assume twenty hundred games people listening to this. Can't see but I can see you and I can see you've got a an La Lakers looks like eighty four eighty five championship. Banner hanging behind you in a lovely framed. Dhia have a memento or souvenir or something. That means the most to you that you've acquired over your career it says Wing Gretzky signed hockey stick. That he signed for me in ninety. I think And I have probably moved. Twenty Times ocoee stick has has gone with me every step of the way and at that said That Patrick Good luck in your career. Nice to meet you ingress. You put the year but a number of the year like ninety nine nine thousand nine hundred ninety three sure So man as thirty years ago and then I got to interview him back. I don't know maybe five years ago and I brought it brought the hockey stick and I had him sign the other side of Gretzky stick signed twice. Pretty good Yeah Yeah and I have a Kobe Bryant signed on my interview. I got to the first person to interview him after the eighty one point game and somebody a picture off of the Internet of whatever the Internet and then he got signed. He didn't know that he was signing for. I don't think I use the notes. I missed it and I asked her to get him to sign it and then I am and he signed it and then I said what did he say and She said Not another one of these nonetheless. I've got it up So that one I would say is probably right up there and Marty. Siamese that's illustrated and he said To Patrick thanks to pump up my tires on air or something like that so I got that one in a frame to so those are probably right up there Kobe Bryant in that picture was wearing the Lakers wight Jersey on Sundays. Right with the number eight. Yeah Good Point. Yeah at home. I always wanted the Kings to develop a Jersey like that white at home purple numbers. Maybe a Gold Trim any specific Kings Jersey or Jersey pattern that you like the most or felt strongest about. I love those ones that we just saw. They decided on. Tv Right. Nine thousand nine hundred ninety three but like those early eighties. You know the early the First Jersey there right when Wayne joined the team. I love those teams. So much does right now the We did an interview with David. Courtney arrests in peace who happens to be the PA announcer for those who don't know and he actually helped design those jerseys because back in eighty seven or whatever it was the kings were such a small organization that everybody had to do so many different jobs everybody had to wear so many different hats and he told a great story about The designing of that Jersey. But you mentioned Marty mcsorley pumping stars. You've worked with a lot of former Alec Marquel Albertina sorry different. Mark took it but I did work with Marty when I my my first analysts that I worked with that we back the show of the pre-game Breaking the ice and I yes. I worked with Marty for two years running. Well that's where I was going with that as you work with a ton of former kings and presumably former baseball players. Is there specific? Kind of player that you think develops into an analyst best or or can you tell when you meet a player. Oh that guy would be great on TV. That's that's a great question Steve Lyons was a guy that I had a tremendous chemistry with and You know because he's he's he's Kinda out there a little bit right. He's got a great. He's got funny sense of humor so we played off each other really well But as far as like who who it is I think they need to speak well that that certainly helps in and not take themselves too seriously. I think is is somebody but like you know. Jarrett was always that go-to guy in the locker room. And I certainly had no no shock that he's turned out to be so great on on television as TV analysts Sean O'Donnell and he was always that guy that was like front and center you now To give those those interviews to the media you know when I need someone to say something about the team win loss generally and they they are always the ones sometimes. They have to talk about the losses. So what you know so much sure. What makes them you know better than anybody else other than they were really willing to? You know take those roles on their teams as you know as media go to guys So obviously had a lot of practice right with with the microphone and and with with breaking NBN essentially there early analysts of of the teams play as players. So I think the ones that that do that the best in the most you know like like Justin Williams would be freaking phenomenal There's there's so many is Made those guys that you don't really know about that would be great like somebody that man. I can't believe he's an analyst. He'd never spoke to was once you know or or even like you know. You're nervous to talk to him. Like I'd Bet Ya. Jonathan quick would be amazing at it. Probably who knows what he wants to do it or not but you know you don't get a chance to interview much and when you do. It's you know he he sticks to you. Know what what's important to him as the guys played well in front of him and you know they got the win. That's the only in the matters. And but he's got a lot more to say if you want. I mean I'd love to see the reporter. Pools faces if Jeff Carter turned out to be you know like Charles Barkley type. Yeah that would be. That would be amazing and Jeff would probably be really really good at it you know. But he probably doesn't seem like that'd be in his personality like Jit like Jeff. Kent was baseball player. That really was difficult guy to interview and does not surprise me at all that he has completely disappeared off. Face the earth in terms of any any media right. He's probably just on his ranch or whatever and having a great life but I'm not surprised. That guy is not doing any TV anywhere Nadal. Follow the dodgers terribly closely. But I remember hearing all the stories about what a famous that guy was. He was running. Well Listen Patrick. We're going to wrap it up. You mentioned kings fans being a family earlier and so I just WANNA say for my part like I said earlier and I've said to you a million times a really couldn't do the stuff I do on TV without you. You've been in a credible help to me anytime I needed it. You've always been willing to plan dumb little games and let me on and hog the spotlight for three minutes. So I certainly appreciate it. I know the fans love you and my father constantly raves. At what a pro you are. And how good are you are jobs? Thanks for everything. Thanks for joining us today. L. A. Jet Jesse. It's a pleasure. Make sure you say hello to your dad were made and you know you come prepared. When you do your segments you know And a lot of work into it and then when you when you do on television you executed flawlessly so keep up the great work and thanks for all you do for these kings fans and I hope to talk to you soon. Gallipoli and person very soon all right just care about.

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10 Questions Update w/ Jon Rosen & Daryl Evans

All The Kings Men

28:54 min | 2 years ago

10 Questions Update w/ Jon Rosen & Daryl Evans

"Louis tips it. To Roy for Organ Gathers Roy one-timer. You're listening into all the king's men the official typecast the La Kings. Now here's your host Jesse Cohen. Welcome at King's fans. I Am Jesse Colin this. This is all the king's men. We are thirty one games into the season so it is time for another update of the ten biggest questions facing the two thousand nine hundred ninety. Two Thousand Twenty La kings. I spoke to both John. Rosen and Darrell Evans to get their perspectives. So you will hear some repetition as we jump back and forth between their answers in this episode. Plus you'll also hear from todd mcmullen during the Monday morning media availability without further ado. Here we go joining me now. La Kings insider John. Rosen are our unity John. I'm good I am in my thirties as drew. Doughty okay. I was wondering where you're going with that well. I told him the other day. That your thirties don't actually again until you're thirty one so as far as I'm concerned you're thirty now count start until you're forty. Well that's I mean it's like what homer Simpson said that one day and for me the nineteen sixties ended on that horrible day in nineteen seventy four so before the season started. We asked ten questions that I felt. Were the most pressing questions facing the LA kings heading into the nineteen eighteen twenty season. WE'RE GONNA burn through them real quick. I question how many games for the buys. We obviously have the answer to that but his season is not get over. No there is a chance. He can still get a small handful of games with the Kings this year. We're not expecting to get more than nine. which would kick in that first year of his entry level contract attract? We're expecting that to slide to at least next year By ease among those it will be released by the Ontario Reign to go play in the world junior championships. So right now now. He's got three to his name. Could end up with a anywhere up to nine but I think I think we were accurate on that at the beginning of the year. Yeah I think we're like not not as many as nine take somewhere between five and nine I mean he was. He impressed out of. Yeah Yeah really good and and you know what. There's good expectation for the future. Drew doughty loved playing with drew. Doughty also loved playing with a random. Name's Niller be this player and that player and he always will speak highly highly. But you know you could tell him to the podcast. You know it's important for someone like drew to see you know that that is the future that these players are on their way second question and we got a little bit of talk out out of a scrum after practice this morning. We'll grunts from and Wagner progress yet to be determined. I mean as a team. The needle is being moved forward. That's the way that McClellan has always shared it individually wagner continues to put himself in position to get scoring opportunities he's just not capitalizing realizing them on the same rate as he was last year I it's you know he he either gonNA run with him. I mean Austin Wagner. I don't think anybody even you know years ago expected him to even be in the NHL by this year And he has that weapon in his speed. Yes some good north-south forechecking ability. It's about putting it all together. Making a smart plays a making good coverage could reads in the defensive zone. Not Getting caught out of position in the Defensive Zone winning board battles so You know I I. I don't think that you can look at what you said. and Said Wow. He's he's taken can that step from his rookie season when he was a double digit goalscorer last year. And he stuck onto now but now he's he's been given a good rope by todd McLellan and he's he's been given a good opportunity and they're gonNA continue to run with it obviously. It's early still in his career but somebody pointed out to me that is shooting percentage last year was in the low twelve and this season. It's somewhere in between three and four. If we believe in any kind of regression to the mean yet you can believe that maybe last year was a little bit high and this year is extremely low. Yeah well are we talking five on five scoring. I've on five shooting INC present at. I didn't check all situation. I mean it doesn't I would assume first of all because you know eleven percent all situational. Shooting percentage for winger who wants to be in the top six is is a little bit elevated I think remarkably so but threes pretty low at that is low but again he's he's. This is a player that in junior hockey could just beat guys is just by driving down the wing snapping Rishaad past him while he scored double digits in handed. Goals to next question doesn't need a lot of time. Spent on it at what becomes Villian Kovalchuk no official word from the organization but it seems perfectly clear to anyone paying always happening. We've covered that one a little bit after that the a much broader question which is what happens ends with defense and. This is a question that I think needs to play out over the course of the entire season. But I think it's fair to say that we're optimistic about the prospects of Sean Walker Matt. Roy Yep and and Matt Roy is. The latest of those players of the younger players opted to get into a groove in find his game in something that hockey operations will L. U. is that he's got a deceptively heavy shot. I it'll let the goaltender will know. It will feel that MS index finger when he makes gloves safe So something that we've been pressed to is that he keeps those shots low able to be deflected Get sticks tips on them but he's also activating in the offensive awesome so he's shown a pretty good A base for his game. You Know I. I don't think were hanging out to be anything more than probably a for a a good team a third pairing type defensemen but those are very important especially when you play on Jain absolutely and you look at right now. Kings have better Better options on the right side and they've had for about the last five years. Yeah it's it's funny to me when Likud slots in the line of wind up with four right handed shooting defenseman with Walker Walker doughty Royan and nowadays. It's an embarrassment of riches. Maybe our I mean it's a lot of players who will have that opportunity you to show that they can stay in the National Hockey League. Stay in LINEUPS and right now Matt Ryan Sean Walker done a really good job of that. Yeah I think Roy is coming along. Nicely the You know he's been referred to as steady by the coach and I think he has become inconsistent very similar to you know talking about the guys that are up front front. He's probably playing at some nights in an elevated role as well When you look at the Kings defense especially with the injury at this time to Alec Martinez at takes another veteran player out the lineup? And you've got guys like Hutton. It's just over few hundred games And Ryan just over one hundred games. That's not a lot of NHL experience Martinez on the other side of things. You know coming up six hundred games a lot more experience. They're all. These guys found an opportunity to be on the ice with drew doughty. So that's a great experience but I think what we're seen from his game you know. Think at the beginning of the year he was probably trying to do a little bit too. Much was a little too aggressive. And that that's a natural thing and I think that's something that you can can kind of you know. Pull back on a little bit. I think he's adjusted that nicely. I think he's getting a feel for the league. When you play teams game in and Game Out individuals you learn tendencies in and you become better and there's no doubt that he'd be become a better player than he wasn't game? One of the season He's finding a way to a quiet way to get a few numbers here and there does plays within his means. Doesn't try to play. You know too fancy or anything like that but most importantly I think the young I liked that he needs to continue to keep taking care care of his own zone defend. Well keep the puck to the outside. Break The puck out on the initial Breakout pass if he gets that done. He's going to get them find himself in a more situations. Aw at question you asked while alluded to anyway talking to mccollum this morning in the scrum was is Jeff Carter a viable offense of weapon. No no no. That's not what I was alluding. Also what I meant was you were asking about Jeff asking about Jeff Carter. Oh Oh I see what you're saying. That was the original question. Do Jesse. Maybe I should stop being so in defensive rating I phrased it wrong. What did you what phrased it correctly? I was wrong all right. I'll take our Yeah yeah I I mean. His shots on goal is rebound created are as high as they've been with the Kings other than his twelve thirteen cy young season in in which not at a lot of goals that year. Not Not as many assists. If you don't catch the reference You Know He. He's putting shots on Net and part of the conversation we had and it's up on L. A. K.. I will talk to Jeff a little bit later. This Week is that Jeff is Jessica. Crafty player not crafty. In the sense that that Easer east-west you know skilled Hansie type guy but somebody that that now passed a thousand games. You saw glimpses of this. When he came back from his injury a couple years ago way that he has been able all to still provide offense? Still Get pucks to the front of the net as as we were talking with with McClellan this This morning It's not that same Jeff Carter flying down the wing the image you always have. I remember scoring. Antena me in the you know the two thousand thirteen playoffs in the first period at Staples Center. I remember that goal particularly well. But it's somebody that is grant afflictions scoring on tips scoring on the garbage that he's always scored onto stuff around the net So it's it's interesting because it is a shooting percentage has raised raised where you'd probably expect it to be in. You know in his early thirties on. It's not quite the same level as you know. Jeff Carter or goal score with the Philadelphia Flyers but is shot metrics is individual danger. Chance created chances in those rebounds created great really well for the kings and he's he's leading shot shot taker so so right. Now you gotta say it's been a pretty good referendum on Jeff Carter even if he had a you know not all six periods where his best over weekender he played well and he came along very well Edmonton game but but overall body work has been pretty impressive from him this year yes I mean. We referenced earlier Wagner and grunts sermon whether or not progress in finding wingers to play alongside or finding a senator play with him. We'll go a long way. I think it's helping games while they've been interchangeable changeable a bit when when he skated with Michael Mattio In she moved into the center when they saw that he's been moving. Well Oh they put him back there and so he'll take a lot of those especially on the right side of the Aisin's faceoffs It's it's been good. They've gotten you know what they need to be getting right. Now of Jeff Carter who had a really difficult season last year injuries in the last two years including wanted limited took fifty five games off of the year prior so They've they've stabilized his numbers in an you should probably do you do for a couple more At home because that's that's where he's been getting his point I think he is One thing that we've seen from Jeff as he's bounced back with that skating ability that he's had throughout his career. He's you know he's been a lead skater. He's got a long stride sometimes. Sometimes deceiving Away from guys He's got the long reach seed. Able to keep the puck away from a lot of defenders You know I don't think he's put the numbers up that he would like to see or the kings would like to see but the opportunities are there and that's where it starts His finishing is going to increase as the year goes on along with the success of other players. I think you know sometimes when you've only got a couple of guys to focus upon he's up against the other teams top defenders night in and night out that You know he's being checked a little bit more closely but I think jeff because experienced over thousand games the League now. He'll find a way to get the job done he's got to good. A shot escapes too. Well not too And when he finds consistent linemates in that might come after the New Year I think you'll see his numbers. Start start to go but I I'm happily You know happily. I don't WanNa say surprise when I'm happy to see the way he's been able to regain the legs that he had. Some might have been a mental issue and I know from talking to you know trace over the years when you have a significant injury like he had sometimes it takes twelve to eighteen months and I think this is a a really good example. I love it especially at this stage of his career next question. I think has a pretty definitive answer and we spend forever talking about why it is but was real. Quick is Adrian campaign a second line center pretty clearly. The answer is no. He's the third line which a lot of people have an advocate. Yeah Yeah Yeah we didn't. I don't think very many people expected affected him to kind of run with that. That cancers that question. I haven't talked about that in November December but Even if he was the third line center and even if a year or two years from now he ends up as a third line center. He's vastly outperformance drafts law when you are drafted twenty nine th overall draft. You have about WTA forty little bit less than forty percent chance of playing one hundred games in the NHL. so He's already whatever he does know and that's not that's not to say. Oh this is great. You know now the phase out. Let's move on to something else. It's that even if he is a third light center. Teams need good third light centers a- and he is somebody that is very strong somebody that gained fifteen pounds and it looks like muscle when you look at him since since he joined Three years since he came over from north to North America four years ago. So he's he's a big bulky strong player and you can see it in the way that he skates the way that he gets underneath sticks the way that he battles. I think anybody could look at him. The last couple of games and say it's been a good switch moving to left wing. But you know he. He's got more to give production wise probably but that battle element the ability to stay strong on the While entering and exiting zones has been really impressed. You can tell the work that he is put in speaking about this people in the front office recently and even thought and it was just thrown out there that you know this is somebody who Trained with some brother Al-Sulh missile offseason. And you know he knew his brother was coming in as well. They kind of pushed each other over the off season It even catalyzed his workouts a little bit more to so he he's been again. I know everyone's GonNa be looking at him. And where the goals you get the scoring chances where those people may have a question of what his uses on the power play but in terms of the work the battle element. That's that's been really good especially on that move left wing. He was scratched What seventeen games into into the season ever since he was put back in after that he's been playing on the left wing mostly with Blake Lozad an awesome wagner? Now I I don't I again. Just van just eyeballing it. That line seems tremendously effective to me and he seems to be playing a much more confident game on the left wing then he was at center any reason for that or or am I just making things up because I want to believe that. He's better though he there's definitely he's playing better. I'm not necessarily early. Sold that it's because he's on the wing as opposed to center. I look at more of the personalities on the ice with a plane aligned with Lozad and Wagner these are guys that later in his age group is bracket I think they look upon him as a leader because of the experience that he has. He's the most experienced player and I think he feels a little bit more comfortable. I think when you play on the ice with a guy like Jeff Carter. Even Tyler Toffoli Andrzej copay tires and guys like that. You KINDA. Don't play your own game. You WanNa make sure that you're playing the way they want you to play and I think right. Now we're seeing a little bit more of the Adrian Cambay that we hope to see that skating ability one thing. They've noticed he's the he's being very competitive like both with the puck and away with the puck and I'd like to see him be a little more aggressive with the puck. I think he doesn't quite understand how well he can drive off the wing. He's got the ability to be able to drop the shoulder and if he's not going to score is going to draw a lot of penalties so I I I like him on the wing for the fact that he with the speed that he has you you get them with a world-class playmaker like moves. The puck pretty well That he's GonNa get his chances so I have no problem seen him on the wing but I don't think he's you know. His career is done at center I think it's it's a nice Option to have that especially when it comes to face off time you know one guy gets thrown out. He's guiding go in there. He's worked a lot on his face off so overall he's rounding his game out but it's good to see him utilizing his gifts over on that left side next question. I'm going to let coach. McClellan answer this one because because it was brought up this morning during the scrum and I really liked his answer and that is what happens to Tyler Toffoli toffees. I profits mortar give. That's how I would've saw some There's areas of the game that if you watch closely. He said he'd operate is really good on the board. She's making real good break. Oh plays plays. He's not turning pucks over in that area But after that it's the it's the advice part is putting yourself in a position to have success And we've got to get from him whether it's power play or even strength over him out success individually and us. It was really glad to hear him. List of positives in Tyler. Toffoli game. Because I think one of the most aggravating things for me over the years has been seeing the defensive parts and the board battles of his game overlooked right fan. SORTA talk about well. He's not scoring goals. So he's he's a bomb as yeah you hear the term from your people is a software. That's absolutely not what Tyler Toffoli exact whether his game is going well or not going well he is somebody that takes along the boards to make place for the team and it does have those good hands along the boards and even during this puzzling stretch which let's all face it has got to be some. You know mental snowballing. Here that we all kind of assume there is in a contract contract here You know he's still somebody that facilitates exits zones. Well little good ants plays around the boards little touches of the pox. Good touch passes to get the PUCK DOC through the neutral zone so you can't look we can't paint it as a positive you look at the last two games and and he had a rough weekend in Alberta. We've all seen him. I bet it's just puzzling at this point. Somebody that scored I think it was fifty four goals total in his twenty two and twenty three year. Old Season combined is on pace for about sixteen or seventeen eighteen year. That that's just hard to fathom and root for Tyler. Has We all love Tyler. We all know how good of a guy he is enjoyed working with him. Aussie hope he gets it. Correct I I still think because we've talked about him was a trade target down the line that whoever gets tyler to fully. He's going to be a team benefits from tyler question. So I you you know. It's we saw what he did to the best players in the world in a King's Chicago Blackhawks playoff series. So there are. There's more to come there. Tyler is always has had good hands and he knows his way around off zone he probably had to learn to play a more complete game when the kings were winning their cup playing along the boards getting pucks and getting pucks out. He became a guy that could trust on the penalty. Kill a thrives on the power play. So he plays in all the critical situations at still disappointed to see that. He's not putting the the numbers up at this stage of his career. You know if you go back a few years ago you probably would have thought that guy like himself Tanner Pearson. Those guys would have been kinda carrying the load right now for the kings at between the two of them and he'd probably have anywhere from fifty five to sixty five goals each and every year and struggled last couple years ability that the game has gotten faster. There's no doubt about that Like to see any any might be a little bit of lack of confidence right now in Winnipeg not going in and he's doing the right things You know defensive side of things you want to make sure you get that you don't become a liability to your wingers. But I think what the Kings need for him. They need him to kind of stick his chest out a little bit and be that guy. And if you'RE GONNA make mistakes you make them in the other end rank you know. Make them two hundred feet away from your net. You don't stick out across the top your own Greece. He's never done that throughout his career. But when you're on the zone challenge defense and don't don't be afraid to get in there and have them pull you down. He doesn't need too many chances to put the puck in the back of the national. I'd just like to see him be a little bit more confident aggressive offensively. That's I mean. It seems like that's that's eighty percent of the battle season is confidence in aggressiveness. And when you know when you start to seize on your heels everybody Kinda changes the game a little bit. He has zits You know everybody looks at okay. What can we do to help the team? And I think you have to understand first and foremost with the team needs from you if you're not J.. Copa Dr Drew Doughty. Don't and Tyler to fully JEFF CAR team. These you put the puck in the net or be involved in the offense. You'RE GONNA plan all the power base become part of the offense. Oh yes be responsible to take care of the other stuff but when you got the puck on your stick at a green light and those guys get a green light so they. They've done it throughout their careers at every level and the fight away to get it done again again here at this level in this year. Next question won't really be answered. Probably for six or seven years with the benefit of hindsight but is todd McLellan the right coach for the La Kings. Yeah absolutely right now. I think he is way that we were describing it leading up to end on this road trip is that kings are flawed team with holes and todd McLellan's getting an awful lot of out of him every single night. They do not have the scoring ability finishing ability or or skill levels necessary to make the most of their opponents mistakes and capitalize on their chances but structurally if gotten much better over the last month and it's becoming less of a beat to think and react and more automatic in their positioning so I- structurally Shirley no issues with the king's battle will all that. I have no issues with the way they've been playing with just at early season Vancouver game which was unacceptable And they've they've competed. They battled willing to learn new things for the Veterans I. I don't think he can say anything. Negative about what. Todd McLellan is done but orser also special national teams challenges that comes into the overall evaluation as well so That's that's an interesting case to discuss. But in terms of the forest in end what. They're giving him the efforts night in night out. I think they're they're fine. They've moved needle. Yeah I think. Definitely the right coach. I think what he does is he. You bring stability bring structure He brings the ability to be able to educate these young players. I think he's got a good understanding as to how to treat the veteran player. You're in probably. which more intriguing is the ability to be able to work with the younger player and I say that from his time in Edmonton working with the Connor? Connor mcdavid Leon Rice. Idols are world class players. The kings are going to have good young players. Come here in the next couple of years while he's behind King's expense and he's GonNa play a big part of them transitioning whether it be from the American League College Junior Leagues into the NHL. Find a way to succeed. I think the value that he's had working with some great young players over the years. In great veteran players will move onto those young guy so I think definitely I like the selection. That was has made there. I think he's got a good communication with raw break or both Rob Blake and Luc Robitaille. And I think they're on the same page as to where they see. The team is add hat today and where they want to see go and also and this is the most important thing is the work is going to be involved in getting there within the next little. Bit you begin to find out about the player. His personality traits his body language. You'll show you when he's Inter out Skillset what fits in certain areas players. Engine we talked about that. How long can he go? How type type of ship? Length frustration level satisfaction levels and things that gets away guys too so so a lot of areas that we found out a lot of players probably more importantly they're funding things about us to that they have to react to becoming a team quickly. Next question in an against is one that already have pretty much answered which is which object Petar. We're getting this year and it's pretty clear we're getting point a game. MVP Andrzej Kotaro. I WANNA see the rest of the year and what's at Yonge Shoots on the power play. Yeah well while boy In the last eleven years of kings. You know it's it's interesting. He has other gifts as well. Well he's one of the League's Premier playmakers when he was twenty three twenty four twenty five at that level. I mean there were few in the league the skill wise that could control basically nobody other than maybe you look at like a Ryan gets laugh in terms of how they protect the pop and distributed. So he's a consummate playmaker. He's also got the best shot on the team and it was great to see that put to use and he can beat goalies gleaned from angles other players can't yet so we're happy to see that but overall body work has been fine I know he data five straight games without point priorities. Goal at Calgary but but despite that even when he's not scoring on Jaco Petar is still your first line center and is still doing so many other things that help you win. It looks like he's moving a little bit better this year than he was last year too so so good positive performance there. That's the type of Andrzej Kobe terrier expect aspect ease appointed game guy been basically that throughout his career. He takes on a lot of work in probably at this stage right now and this is this is where the Kings are kind of neat little inbetween area. They're looking for that second Centerman To be able to come in and eat up some of those big minutes Whether it be on the penalty killing side side of things You know copay tires. A great distributor of the PUCK. But if you can pull his minutes back a little bit it'll be that much more. Effective he compliments. Everybody plays with because he's so smart and he's so committed to play two hundred foot game. He's a coach's dream because he's an educator while he's on the ice and instead of coming from the whole farm the you know the Horse's mouth voice from the coach. You're watching your your team. May Do it. And when a guy has been doing it for that long throughout his career you see the results that he's had captured the Stanley Cup little a couple of times and Dan also the individual stores that he's come across of more importantly at what he's been able to do for. His teammates Andrzej copay tires is doing what he he needs to do. You just needs a little bit more support now at this stage and this is this is the stage of his career right now where there should be somebody else that has stepped up in and helped him him out. In that regard I think he still taking on or has too much Ownership of to what's going out there I think he. He needs a little bit more from his teammates. But but to his credit he He continues knowing that it's not coming from anywhere else that he continues to keep getting the job done. Every building egos in in even a staple center always playing up against the other teams number one line whether it's an offensive situation defensive situations playing against the best defenders on the other team still finds a way to get a job He's a world-class player. And he'll be hall of Famer one final question deliberately asked in an annoying way and there's no way to know it until next season not that is who is the starting goalie for the La Kings in the twenty twenty one season. I hate that question new. Yeah anyone who says that. They know what's going to happen. Happen does not know. It's an easy question. Only while short you know that is a tough question. Only time will tell yeah and I don't think it's fair to you know to put an answer to that question right now because so much can change when you're looking at you know trade options and things like that. You're looking at goaltenders that you have in place right now you look at it the goaltenders that you have coming up my answer to that question has has been since the first time I asked gene. Jonathan quake is the starting goaltender. Happy with and I've got no problem with that as well. I mean if you and if you supply him with the offense some of these other goaltenders goaltenders get is telling me how many wins. He'd have he he. You know you go back to twelve one. The cons might than they should have. It's like should issued want everything here The team would never got to the playoffs. Look at how many goals and it's even again right now how many one goal games the kings revolving now. They haven't found a way to win as many now as they did. You know five. Six seven eight years ago at the responsibility of the players. Regardless if it's quick Campbell Campbell Peterson. Whoever's in net you give your team a chance you gotta find a way to get the job done at the other end? They asked me to Fox Sports West asked me to come up with the all decade gate team forward sixty two goalies and I mean that was the easiest right. Doesn't he's got bowl spots exactly. I want with booed. I thought it was a nice guy but yeah I should've gone anyway. Daryl I wanNA thank you very much for joining me always a pleasure guests stapleton look forward to it.

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08-31-19 State Of The Franchise w/ Nick Nickson

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08-31-19 State Of The Franchise w/ Nick Nickson

"You're listening to all. The king's men the official podcast of the l._a. Kings now. Here's your host jesse cohen well the makings fans my name is jesse cohen and this is all the king's men is always make sure you never miss an episode by subscribing on itunes stitcher spotify premium or wherever refine podcasts are curated subscription links and recent episodes can be found l._a. Kings dot com slash podcast and this is a bit self serving but if you how many friends who are kings fans that don't know about the podcast on listened to the podcast go ahead. Tell them tell them to listen. I bump into people at events all the time. You tell me how much they i love the intermission segments do fox sports west. They have no idea that this podcast exist so go ahead spread the word. The state of the franchise event was last night for season ticket members but i ask dick nixon to join me after it was all said and done to get our initial reactions now we're gonna try and have the full audio of the event available for you. In a few days. Keep an eye on my twitter account at kingsman podcast for news about that but for now hope you enjoyed the recap joining me in a green room room backstage at the novo theatre alley live hall of famer nick nixon. How're you doing tonight doing great yeah. It was a wonderful event as we get into labor day weekend and that only means that the good stuff is around the corner and that's right and i think that's the seventy fifth time that somebody mentioned the long weekend the evening signing timing is everything. We're going to break down. What happened what our thoughts were on the evening earning. The first thing that i think has to be addressed and i think they did a decent job of handling it is just acknowledging the different mood from this season the last season because last season's event i was blown away by i loved it and not say the tonight wasn't great but the but the mood last season i think played a big a big role in how much i liked it and it was you know we came so close to beating las vegas and now we've got kovalchuk coming in and velocity. He's gonna crack the lineup and this is what our power play is gonna look like and we've got new offense offensive systems and an offensive coordinator ron this year. Last year wasn't great yeah. What a what a difference a season makes yeah you're right. The expectation was going into last season that too. There was still a a window for this team with the nucleus which was a nucleus clues. One two cups was still going to be formidable enough to carry them into the playoffs and hopefully with their playoff experience go deep playoff run and it kind of all unraveled before our eyes with personnel changes the coaching change early last year and now all you hear about the great young prospects which which we'll talk about shortly. I'm sure but it's a different mindset. We're building ahead for the future things. We heard what eight ten years ago from then g._m. Dean lombardi and it turned out turned out okay yeah <hes> he had heard shirts and he had his way of telling the fans. This is these are the the areas. We've got to plug in and find players via the draft via free agency trades. Whatever obviously it works so yeah a lot different. I think the one thing that a lot of us can look forward to is that there is a lot of good young talent in the organization. I was reading publication. Just a couple of weeks ago might have been the hockey news where they raided the prospects of all all the teams and they gave the kings plus especially for this past rat when they had seven picks the first four rounds so and i'm looking forward in preseason games when the season's starts is i'm sure a couple of those young players will be on the opening night roster if for no other reason just to see where they're at and their development up against n._h._l. Players so that's exciting but you want to win. You always want to win and last year. The kings could not score which is why they didn't win. There were other factors coaching change. A lot of players have good but i mean they had the second worst offense executive and you've got to score a goal so we've got to figure out how to score forty more goals at least the season from what they did last year forty forty news would get them back to where they were when they were struggling to score when they weren't yeah so yeah to me whether or not some of the kids make the team <hes>. You've got the veterans back a lot of them. Most of them had bad years last year especially a lot of the forwards. You've got to figure out how to get more offense. No i mean again. I looked at the stats two days ago on two fold and carter's goal totals last year and go that can't happen again now. They've got a score twenty-five thirty which they're capable of and have done in the past and right dare almost it's almost eur forty goals. You're looking for and then improved seasons from the young players and rebound season goalscoring wise from a guy like andrzej copa dr it could be interesting. I mean to to kind of wrap up your initial question. It is a different feel what it was last year. It was a team that still has the window to win a cup to one. That's now looking ahead to developing young good draft picks to be competitive again so one of the things that i think everybody involved in creating kings content. Has i struggled with this off season and and what was evident in on stage tonight. Did they struggled with was what you say when the when words don't matter later right like the organization can say whatever they want. The pundits can say whatever they want. We can say whatever we want but it doesn't matter until october fest when the players at the ice and start producing so how do you tell a room full of devoted kings fans you know how do you feel anything with words when everybody understands did did they don't ultimately matter and as always. I thought they did a pretty decent job. <hes> robes on blake came on and sort of set the tone. Maybe for the new. Maybe not news not the right word but sort of reset. Everybody's memory about what the <unk> what the what the priorities of the franchise were right blake like mentioned not trading draft picks. They went back and looked at the track record over the last three years. How many guys have come in. How many guys have signed contracts. How many of them are going to be joining. The organization is pros <hes> so that just sort of set the stage <hes> and then where i thought the night really took off was when glen murray came on and nelson emerson came on jeff solomon was particularly meaning <hes> and they started walking fans through not what the future looks like but what the behind nine the scenes of the present looks like an inside look as to how at least the kings organization feels that they have to do things the right way to develop players to be a really good n._h._l. Players i enjoyed one of the presentations was breaking down down. The draft picks those in the first round that make the n._h._l. And their cutoff was one hundred n._h._l. Games then you go to the second round down to the seventh and as as you'd expect it you know it progressively gets worse the deeper you go and anna remember on our talk show during the season jesse. We were talking about route. It was probably probably around the fact that the kings weren't scoring goals which could have been at any time during that six months season but i remember saying look at the top twenty scores right now in the n._h._l. And this was when kucherov was starting to run away with the scoring race and meco renton and was playing great nathan mackinnon mcdavid obviously but i totaled up the top twenty scores in the n._h._l. This was i think maybe early february mid february and i thought i think it was seventeen of those twenty were first round picks picks and they were the top twenty in the top twenty so yeah and we've talked about this before with you and on our shows during the season it started back when dave taylor began his reign as g._m. Dean lombardi the embraced it as well rob lakers these are people that have been in the game a long time and in this day and age with the salary capper the best way to get superstar players to draft them. The only way you're going to do that is by holding onto your first and second round picks. It's that simple which was which i thought was great that the kings were able to go on to the draft this summer with seven picks in the first four rounds and what are they have four picks in the top five picks in the top one hundred five or foreign top fifty right yeah yeah yeah so that's something that maybe the average fan is not aware of but it's important in the big picture and you look at the cornerstones of the king stanley cup championship egypt teams <hes> dustin brown and andrzej copa tar and drew doughty driver louis josh rivers and the get the guy the guys that the added like carter and even marian gabbara e first round picks. They're all first round picks and and you know with so many is scouting these young players at sixteen seventeen eighteen up until their draft your when they're eighteen most of them have a pretty good idea where everybody falls in right you just have to be able to drop them and and for longtime time kings fans who go back to the inception of the team back in nineteen sixty seven the philosophy back then when the draft wasn't well well. It wasn't what it is now. An entry draft the kings would trade away their first round picks for the first ten years of the franchise and they're spinning earning their wheels and they're still trying to you know keep up with the joneses. When it's the late seventies early eighties and finally they figured out okay hey we can't trade our future to try and win. Now we have to bite the bullet right now so that we can win later and win win consistently and for a long time at one point they showed a <hes> a sort of a bar graph with the the projection lines sort of thrown through it and they had all the players that you just mentioned drafted into the they showed all the players that were on the two cup winning teams and where they were drafted. You know what round and you can see the majority of them were drafted in the first round and there was a cluster in the second round a few in the third to in the fourth one and the fifth it you know jordan nolan and willie mitchell taken in the seventh that sort of thing but basically all not all been majority first and second rounders then they showed the current crop. I i think over the last three years of where those guys have been drafted and you can see there's four first rounders. I don't remember how many second rounders and i remember looking at it thinking gosh that's <music> sparse. How are we supposed to build a container and then i caught myself thinking well if you blend the two graphs and you bring over co petar brown exactly and maybe in three or four years petar is not going to be the player he has been. He's going to be that much older certainly dustin brown. I'm probably is retired by then but drew. Doughty is still going to be a force and alec martinez who looks like he could skate and be effective until he's forty years old. Yeah these players will will still be there to augment the younger talent coming in dan so yeah it. I'm sure for the fans that will be nice for them to see alex turcott because he was such a high first round. Pick <hes> this past summer but you know all eyes are going to be on him. It certainly would appear if he has the type of season. Everybody expects his freshman year at wisconsin that that he comes out and signs as a pro. Maybe right after wisconsin's season ends next spring. That's gonna be exciting because you know and we talked to the veteran players last year brown co petar i mean these these guys played so much every night and you can't expect to be successful by playing these guys this much every night and they we know it and and it's not because they're not good players and they shouldn't play but there's nobody else out there to take those minutes that can that is going to be as productive and that's why we need like i'll throw the name out there because he's probably first in line on the wishlist turcott to be a number one center so he can take those power. Play minutes is producing obviously to get those minutes so co. Petar doesn't have to play twenty two minutes a night or nineteen. The next night and engage in three and four nights plays twenty three minutes again so yeah that's it all goes back to the drafting and where people slot in but it's exciting again. I mean if the kings didn't have you know the the draft picks. They did have this summer. We probably aren't talking about this because like i said everybody feels. The kings drafted a lot of good young players. I remember dean. Lombardi said you you try to get to players in every draft. They're going to be n._h._l. Players doesn't mean their star player right you go back to when they brought up king nolan for the cup running in twenty twelve big tough players nolan was a draft. They weren't high picks but were the important parts absolu- i mean i'm constantly fighting with people that those identified the kings are right so you know but dean said you gotta get at least two every year now. Kings draft is rated a. plus by a lot of people. Maybe you get three or four and wow now. You've got uh a nucleus for the next ten twelve years looking at of you was still some competitive years hopefully with the group that we still have and we'll add a few more. Here's one a couple of google. Dave andreychuk the name i always think of when i think about the future of the guys like hope it's brown and i'm certainly not suggesting that copay careers anywhere near you're done but a guy like dave andrew truck who played an incredible role on that tampa bay lightning cup winning team but he wasn't not mike richards pat bradley because he wasn't brad richards. He wasn't cavalier. He wasn't right. He was <hes> third fourth line grinder and even the kings second cup line right. Mike richards played yep played a checking role again not that dustin brown rajagopal are anything other than first line forwards at this point but to your point about turcott when he does become hopefully first line center or even if his ceiling the second line center whatever it may be you hoped those guys are still around and and producing an yeah and and and avi would you would think that that would extend their careers if they could manage their minutes better yeah yeah but it it's tough for a coach to not play a guy like copa tire as much as it does. If you don't have anybody else they can play those minutes and be effective because the coach wants to win every game he plays his job is not as much as you know it. It's nice to hear about looking forward in the future and you know putting all the eggs in the right holes a new coach and todd mclellan ton. Mcclellan wants to win hockey games every night. Every coach does us they off the record. They were probably all tell you don't tell me about what we're going to have in four right right the fire. That's the reality so but it's it's a different feel and and i think the kings are in a good place with their young talent. They're going to have four or five really talented. Defenseman that are what one thousand nine hundred twenty ontario and maybe one or two gets a look during the season more than likely. Will we saw a couple of them at the end of last year so yeah it'll it'll be fun. There's a lot of talk from from multiple members up onto the people up on stage. Nelson emerson talked about it. Glen len murray talked about it. Jeff solomon's will lesser extent talked about it showing the prospect list showing the new players coming into the organization and i was talking to fan after the event and i said i've begun thinking about the king's talent pool not as a twenty three man roster but as a forty six man roster oster i mean it's actually more than forty six because there's no limit on h. L. rosser cise but now when i hear a rumor just for example it got asked about tonight during the session and somebody asked whether or not the kings were still interested in manhattan and whereas three years ago five years ago ten years ago twenty years ago i would have thought oh well that's interesting. He's twenty six years old. He's left shooting defenseman. There's room you know okay. Maybe now i go well. No we can because then where's mike anderson uh-huh ryan ryan stanton's already in ontario as i do an age l. contract. He's thirty years old so he's not jersey or drag this year so so yeah. It's it's again. I think we would all agree. That's partly because the whole outlook is different now than it was last here. At this time maybe last year at this time when they still feel that we have the window and everything's hunky dory and the coaching staff the was here last year it it it might be a situation where things are going to you know just evolve the way you hope they would but yeah it's gonna be interesting is going to be interesting because you don't want to bring in a guy who's maybe twenty six twenty. I mean ben ben hutton's a good player. He's in n._h._l. Defensemen but there you go is he gonna make that much of a difference in and the big picture whether it's him or a twenty year old defenseman that we've drafted being in the lineup and if he's <music> that valuable and that good why is he still out there. I mean that no disrespect to one hundred one hundred and i mean looking at the like i said looking at it as a forty six man roster or however big it. Is you know i i'm a lunatic so i spend at least fifteen minutes to twenty minutes a day. Staring <unk> adds depth chart and cap friendly and all the contracts just. I don't know why the information hasn't changed in spring months but i i keep looking at it every day and i'm looking at. It and i'm thinking to myself love. The kings already have too many defensemen for the big club. They have too many defensemen for the rain. They have too many forwards for the club. They have too many forwards so the rain they have enough players under contract in the pipeline to to ice two full teams <hes> and that's what excites me about the season and i think that was evident on stage tonight is that it really is even though there are pieces that are still in place right you know kobe brown around doughty culture carter to fully martinez quick etcetera etcetera and even though the front office right bill ranford spin here for however long and jeff solomon has been here since the since the beginning of lombardi's aurora and and you know rob blake obviously was an assistant jam and rolled pieces in place that have been here for a while and yet we are now entering as as tom mclaughlin will talk about him in a second as tom mcclellan referenced it at the beginning of a new marathon and you feel that it really is sure sure and i think thank part of that is because he's taking over and there are going to be changes to the way the game is played some of them as he mentioned would be subtle. We might not see them in the beginning but over the long haul oh yeah okay. I see what what the kings are trying to do here. I like this. I like this is the way they should be doing. <hes> hopefully it works <hes> but yeah i think any time you bring in a coach of mclellan's status <hes> with his experience the n._h._l. Level and and his pro coaching career as an assistant minor league head coach etc and combine that with the fact that the kings have made a long term commitment to him to get them back to where they want to be. I think you have to expect that okay. We're gonna start here but this is where we're gonna finish but we can't do do it. In eighteen months right. It's gonna take time todd has time. He knows he does players know he does. <hes> the players know he's got the time so he can do that. He can say that and he can preach it with the the hopes that there's a buy in and a lot of the veterans who have won and wanna win again. Everybody wants to win and win again. If you've won once or twice ace. Hopefully they'll see that okay went through this once. We have to do it again but we can do it. We can do it. I mean and let's let's let's not forget i mean in two thousand twelve who thought the kings were going to win the stanley cup in february of that year and you could say the same thing in twenty fourteen who thought the blues. We're gonna win the you're in january in vegas. Yeah although vegas is a different story now but that just just shows you in this day and age. If certain things fall into place good things can happen. I had only only known todd mclellan from what i've seen on t._v. As an opposing coach and he has a stone face he's not <hes> terribly varied in his expressions when he's coaching right he looks stern. He looks mean. There's just gradients of anger when you're watching him on the on the telecast the cast so to see him open up tonight and he talked about his sons and he talked a little bit about his wife. He talks about why he came to l._a. His philosophies on coaching and hockey and you know we talked about how he used. Metaphor is a lot in analogies. It was a completely different version of todd mclellan than i've ever seen before. I'm sure you've seen it before. Post game press conferences and interviews irvy's such <hes> but i went from thinking and this is no disrespect to jam rob blake but i went from thinking of the beginning inning of this year or the beginning of the calories say twenty nineteen when the team was clearly falling apart and the season was sort of lost and there was a lot of talk about the plan. We're resetting the plan. We're sticking to the plan. We have a plan-plan plan then they hired todd mclellan and the press conference. Was you know i like the plan. I have the autonomy to exact the plan a._g. Wants to have a plan. We're sticking to the plan was like i'd heard the word plan more than anything else and i thought okay. This is fine. I don't not complaining but this is exactly the thing you would expect any organization failed to meet its goals would say which is we have. We have a plan and we're sticking to the plan and i thought okay. This is like all right so would you let me do any sport your that a lot of it's not even limited to sports right exactly we're gonna make a movie and we're going to plan like okay great so when taunt coach clown we got up and started speaking and and this is you know maybe this matters maybe this doesn't but it just struck doc me he filled space and he provided energy to the topic of the plan in a way that i hadn't hadn't yet heard from this oregon right. Coach stevens was a very <hes> passive voice right when speaking to people <hes> rob blake lauded by by his peers and people who know as a as a keen mind and a and a well respected member of the community and i have no reason to doubt that but just you know he's not and iraq on tour shall we say whereas dean lombardi right could talk forever and darryl sutter had his own unique unique communication pile but i think sometimes an organization does need and it doesn't necessarily matter where it comes from but there needs to be on a just use my own analogy. You know you see those movies of the viking. Ships were the guys on you know troch stroke in his room. They're all rowing at the same time right. There needs to be that entered seems to me like mcclellan could lend that to the franchise and and honestly i think that might have been one of the biggest things that was missing last season yeah and and for me it was not a good situation and and the kings i'm sure had very valid reasons for announcing it this way but when they made the coaching change early last year and brought in willie desjardins pardon he's the interim coach well right then and i and i'm not saying well. I'll say it. Is there a buy-in. Is there a buy in to the future to how we can win again when we we know he's not going to be here for the long haul so and again. It's tough to make a change that early in the season. The guy you want is not available probably early or the or maybe if you don't know who you want but you had to make the change for the good of your organization now you've got to start the search and which way do we do we go oh so you know that that wasn't the ideal situation but once they did the thing that it kind of shocked me when they named todd mclellan because he was one of the names you know we're on the road and we're in minnesota right after the coaching change early in the season. He's an and we're all in the media room talking about who's available. Who's gonna well. How about dave tippett. He's assistant coach year. Players always seem like him. He's not doing it so we're throwing out names and then todd mclellan. Let's go on edmund so now you're thinking okay and actually among us will will give us some credit media. He was the one guy that we associated with being a pretty strong candidate because rob blake had played for sure and we all know how l. family heirachy runs in the n._h._l. You hire people. You know that you can trust that. You know what you're going to get their personalities so i wasn't surprised that todd was named what kind of took me was. They gave him the five year contract and then one of that when that soap din. I'm saying all right. I'm a player on the kings right now. I've been with the team for eight years nine years. He's not going anywhere in five years news. I might be going somewhere so okay. Let's check that off a-list as blaming coach no not gonna happen now or let's cha not going to happen so those are two things that i thought of it with a coaching change but obviously from from my perspective respective covering the kings a member of the media. He's always been very accessible to us in san jose where he got his first n._h._l. Head coaching job and then it doesn't menton little little more guarded and edmonton only because he had to deal with the edmonton media every day not just heavily on game day that heavily every day. That's the n._h._l. Media coverage in canada. That's so so yeah okay. I figure that out but you know he gets it. He understands the media. He knows what it's like to be in the division asian. He knows the players in the division. He knows what it's been like to be in a so called new hockey market san jose what it's like to be in an established avalanched n._h._l. Hockey market edmonton so he's got a vast array of experiences up and down the gamut that you can. You can say okay this this. This might be exactly what we need so but but yeah the one thing that i like about the higher of todd is that and he talked about the autonomy he and his coaching staff have is that bake is i'm here. I'm not going anywhere the rectifier me and you're too because they're going to have to pay me millions for not to nobody wants to do that. <hes> so yeah yeah. I think it's the right fit right now and his teams have always been competitive. <hes> <hes> and it's going to be interesting. It's going to be interesting and and for the next couple of years just to see see how he changes things out drastic or how subtle they are and then how he works in the younger talent where they're not a lot of coaches coach's jesse new seen this. They don't like to play young players. They don't trust them well. Let's see with all this good young talent. Maybe you have to play play them because they're that good whether you trust them or not. Maybe they're not gonna defend well but if they can score thirty five goals you you know he said at one point glen murray was making fun of grove is is saying you can't skate you. Gotta score goals here luke and then coach mclellan's on said you know give me two guys that can't skate score fifty goals in season exactly he <hes> he made a comment that i don't know him well enough to accuse him of doing on purpose but it was the kind of comment that phil jackson had made it. I'd say okay that is one hundred percent calculated one hundred percent deliberate he was talking about the team and he signed about the progression of careers and how the franchise had run a marathon from the time that brown and coach our join the organization and obviously culminating in the two cup wins wins and then he talked about starting new marathon and he said you know some people can run can run. One marathon already said my wife ran one. Marathon is done wanna do it again. She can't do it again. She did once that's great and then he said and this is the part where i say phil jackson. It's others i would one hundred percents calculated and pointed and deliberate and directed directed specific players but he said there are some veterans in this franchise that have to decide if they want to run another marathon yeah and and some of them <unk> are capable of doing it right. Some of them are probably too old to i mean we're going into this season and we talked about this at the end of last last season daryl and i on our talk shows and even during the games when fans what are the kings have to do get better younger they got and as of the end of the last game of last season the kings had eight players on the roster that were in their thirties and we said i know i sat out magnus week for darrell evans that is i said they can't go into the season with with that many of veteran players that many older players now. They bought out dionne on phone off. I think a lot of us expected that and then you look at the others the contracts take a lot of them tough to move because a lot of them have at least three years left on a deal quickest four including this season so yup. I it's going to be interesting. I think to me if you're an athlete. If you've been with the kings the veterans like carter guys that have won both cups. We all know the doughty deborah on brown it carter <hes> you would think that okay i know what it takes to get a championship and i know how we got the first two and both of them were not expected really yeah and okay. Let's kind of reboot reset and let's do it over again and and maybe we'll we'll do it where we keep getting better and better better and when we get to the playoffs whether it's getting back there this year or next year the year after with momentum good young nucleus. That's ready to take over the leadership group then. Maybe you say okay now. We're favorites. Which would never. I mean so so you know i think it's gonna be it's interesting. It's gotta be interesting only because there are so many question marks and are all of the questions we have to be answered positively no they're not but you just hope that things kind of evolve where you can see the light at the end of the tunnel and you can see that okay what what what the new people are trying to do is working and the players are buying that that's going to be a key and we'll probably pick up on that in the first five six weeks of the season. The players have bought in okay now. We're going now now. We're going to see what this team because i think the church so many players underachieve last year various reasons some of them blamed other factors that happen and okay. That's that's human nature but i was talking to a season seat holders earlier tonight the event here and look at you look at our forwards and aside from dustin brown and a couple of the young kids like campaign follow. Allo veterans just did not have good years. Are they all gonna come back and have the same type of bet. No they'd better not exactly i. I don't think it's going to happen no and half of them and we talked earlier about getting more offensive half of them to fully goes from thirteen to twenty five goals carter was thirteen to twelve or whatever he had to twenty five. I have follow gets a little bit better. Campaign kobe tires more than twenty. Now you're looking again it those forty goals extra and half a goal a game that gets you in the playoff on so yeah. It's i mean we we opened the conversation tonight. Saying you know part of the challenge of putting on a night like this is finding a way to talk about a situation where you know words don't matter and one of the things i really liked about what's odd mcclellan said is that they're gonna. They're gonna be changes but you might not see them right away right. It might take you whatever's at eighteen eighteen weeks or something like that and even the lineup as we're saying. They're veterans right. Even the opening night. Lineup doesn't feature a single guy under the age of twenty two or or twenty three the roster on the end on the home of the fan appreciation night at the end of the right right that roster's going to have a lot of guys under the oh yeah yeah i mean we we've seen that under rob blake. They like to give young guys taste. Anderson dolan last year played the what nine games before they had to make a decision on him. They got a kind of a feel for where his development is. At ah matt roy came up seen walker <hes> come up for some games wagner to me you the one thing about and we talked about this too during the season and i'm sure there are valid reasons but this is the fan in me. Okay austin wagner can skate like the wind. It's on unbelievable. He he scored thirteen thirteen goals. Maybe ten of them on breakaways yeah okay. The kings penalty killing was awful last year. Why wouldn't you use. I used the fastest guy on the team to kill and i understand. He's got to learn positioning in this who cares you're not how how much worse can your penalty killing get yeah if he doesn't understand positioning and he just goes out there and pressures for thirty seconds all over the ice gets gets off comes out and kills the final twenty six so so that's these are some of the things that they kind of excite you but <hes> yeah that that's that's where i i think you you have to you have to expect that these young players are going to get at least a taste this year and a lot like you say by the end of the year by the end of the year. They may have a better answer. They will okay. These guys are going to be players and now we're gonna gold signing. That's going to wrap up our conversation. We just got the ten minutes so yes from the evil any any final thoughts on the evening. No i think it was great. I think the fans really early appreciate these. The kings have done this now for a couple of years. I learned something. I think all of us even that are inside the organization work for the organization. You learn something when you go into the detail like all the individuals did from from luke to rob blake to the development guys as glenn murray nelson emerson to the new coach jeff solomon with analytics <hes> yeah it's good the fans i think get a <hes>. There's there's nothing better than an educated sports fan and if nothing else that's what the kings organization is has done for the for the people that were fortunate enough to to make it here tonight. We're going to try and get the entire evening up on the iheart platform for you guys that weren't able to attend because as nice it is to have us recap recap it and you know you can read rosen's tweets in the mayor and everybody tweeting about it. I still think it's valuable to hear the the people that actually said the things actually say the things we're going to have yeah. Thanks for listening kings fans nicknamed for joining me like you go kings and we'll talk to you soon.

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Mornings with Keyshawn, LZ and Travis (HR1)

Mornings with Keyshawn, Jorge & LZ

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Mornings with Keyshawn, LZ and Travis (HR1)

"Whoa. I appreciate that. Can you feel it Chris Morales? The old school Jackson Five. They opened the. Victory tour with that. That's our Friday song, John. Now, how often does this happen that the show starts, and Kishan has yet to arrive? He's usually the first hair man, I don't. I think he was so excited that you were going to begin with. No. He got confused. He knew somebody had today off, and he thought it was him. No usually at five fifteen. The one thing and good morning, everybody, your Jeet is it is Friday, and I am paying off a bet for those of you who don't know the back story here we had what we called the spring shootout a Gulf shootout during masters week at industry hills. Chris, you're there. I was travis's cat. You're an excellent caddie, if victorious they gotta be masters. But didn't we do it masters week? Yeah. Raj was doing a different bit though. That's okay. I missed one bit to Mason in Ireland started as a morning show. I was that early. We used to go five to nine and that was the beginning of Mason. We've been on every conceivable day part because I don't go to eleven fifty. Well, we first started on six ninety then we did the triple cast on six ninety eleven fifty and Fox Sports west to which is now prime ticket is that when the great David singer, dressed up like Carl's junior character, not only that, but isn't didn't those Sports Illustrated swimsuit issue. Just come out. I think it did. All right. So back then the Sports Illustrated swimsuit issue was a much bigger deal man, ruby look forward to it. Everybody like half the people hated half. The people loved it so singers, one of those people Dave singer, the former producer of the Mason and Ireland show and I'm not exaggerating. He looks like a bear. He has hair all the way up and down his back. I think he's had it is the word health gaze at it taken out. Well, you know, the morning show is the official show of bear on bear. Okay, you're gonna learn a lot today. John singer. We put him in a bikini and had him knock on you. So he's wearing a bikini with all the hair on his back. Just looks awful. Yes. And we had him knock on famous people's doors, and deliver them coffee in hand them, a copy of the swimsuit unit came out. So the first person we did it to was the late great Bubba Smith. Remember that he was very popular for the police academy. Then he did it to Jeanie Buss. We knocked on her door in Manhattan beach. I was up. Excellent. The guy who took it. The best was George Karl. He was in town coaching the Sonics. We found out what hotel. They were at singer knocked on the door. His wife answered the door and singer in a bikini handed in these Sports Illustrated swimsuit issue at five AM. And he thought it was Larry's he was. Where is singing? I was working over there in the he's another refugee at the NFL net. Well, I thought he was with Marcellus. No, he's not at the witness protection protection. That's we call that place over there. Jonah witnessed per day, pay very well at the witness protection. I don't blame ourselves or any of those dudes seen him that was in, so we, we used to bits which is what you guys, specialize in. We do more like eight plant emoji bits. But that's just I just saw your eggplant emoji. I feel right at home. Chris, it's nice. Isn't it anyways? So this ROY is gonna tell Travis and I made a bad at this spring shootout. And we said the we played match-play straight up, we said, whoever loses has to host the other guy show and still do their own show. So I have to do this show today actually looking forward to this, but then I have to host Mason in Ireland at noon. So I'm gonna have about a two hour break. Chris, you are the one person that stays here from early in the morning till late in the day. How should I play my to our break? I can go to the LA athlete club in workout, I can go to telling me what would you do? If you're me. That's a morning show. Pit some people that know know what that means to do on your break. So you can't be all ready to go. I don't know if that would make me any better or worse. I say LA get nice workout in that. It's brought my brought my dear. So that may be the play if you're if you're just waking up. And you did not watch the game last night. The game was actually excellent, the Portland trailblazers at one point, led by seventeen they lead by fifteen at the half fifteen points at halftime and they blew it. The warriors came all the way back play was somewhat decided the game somewhat decided on a play at the end of the game. The warriors led by three but the blazers had fifteen seconds to try and tie the game. Everybody in the building new. They were going to Damian Lillard Andre Igwe Dala stripped Lillard with five seconds to go. Steph curry picked at the ball through it is high as he couldn't the air in the clock. Ran out afterward. It sounds like Damian Lillard thinks he got fouled, but he was very careful to try and not get fine. Here's Damian Lillard after the game I got the ball, I think they knew we needed a three, you know, I think it was under ten seconds by the time I gotta catch and acquitted we didn't have no time I was left. I don't think that would have done much for. So they knew we were gonna go foot three. So I was just trying to just basic at three a I notice a tough position for referees to be in to make a call at that point in the game. But, you know, I tried to get a little bit of space, the first time he grabbed Mahone and, you know, lost a little bit. I regained it and I was gonna shoot at again and he, he got his aunt on the ball for me as officer player, I felt like it was contact. There's a lot of contact obviously the ref is not gone decide the game or jump in at that point, you know. So they good good defensive play at the end of games in the playoffs. And I say this. All the time. The refs don't want to decide the game they don't wanna call that. Would you know, and I thought it would Dala had a clean strip. There wasn't enough contact for me to call a foul. It sounds like things. It was a foul, but there's no way you're giving him three free throws at the end of game like that. I think you miss there was contact. But I think he went away now out of the way. But I think he hinted that he wouldn't have made the call. Yeah. I thought that the warriors made a great comeback. What was interesting about the game was that Steph and his brother. Seth got in somewhat of a shoot at the end of the game. And they kept cutting away to the to Dell and Sonya curry who are sitting up in the stands. And I can't imagine what that was like for them because they were, you know, one, Seth would hit a huge shot and Sonia, who is wearing a warriors jersey would go crazy. And then del who's wearing blazers delicately had a split jersey. Yet half the wars on the back blazers on the front. And, and at the end of the game, it, it, it almost seemed weird not to talk to both of them. But since Seth lost you went straight to the locker room, not surprisingly, Draymond green said he could care less about Seth curry also looking in. I really don't give them Cephas every shot and get destroy stuff. So, yeah, he had to again tonight for my liking, but it was definitely amazing. All right. So the warriors now lead two games to none. This series moves to Portland and we have an update on Kevin Durant. He's not going to Portland at all not even making the trip. So if you think that this series is over think, again, Portland's going home, and there will be no Durant in game three or game four we'll get into that next. It's the morning. Show, Keyshawn l z and today, it's me, John Ireland paying off a bet to Travis. Morning, joe. Sorta how now a key has arrived. I was here. I was here snood, but gummy will deal with that at the headline. Yeah. That things tricky it's two buttons. And if you hit the wrong one, you're up the creek, I to be honest with you. I'm four off the air. I thought that you would struggle much more with this time period than you have from what I hear you're like the first one here in three years of probably been late four times not even just being late. I mean Mason used to be late for everything. But what I thought was you would just get tired of this time in the morning that you after six months would say, for me, but you've actually kinda growing, right? Like I do. But I think John wind we hit the reset button about a year ago. It gave me a new energy right in terms of we got rid of Donna. Yeah, that's what he mean. Chiba boy, I got into it was sedan yesterday guys. In georgia. Oh we all. Talking about the you didn't even have to throw it to me. I was getting ready to say it had to be over some damn basketball. Go ahead. Well, but you'll have an opinion on it. What I you can apply this to football or baseball or anything. I think there are certain myths about professional sports, and this is one of them when you hear reporters go on TV and say this is, and you can apply this football too. This is a three player draft. There is a huge dropoff between three and four history, would show key, if you go into any draft. That's never true. No, it's not ever know because every year in any sport. Okay. And by the way, you can extend this way out. Yes. You know, my guy Dennis Thurman all American ESI, one year, Thurman, is, is an assistant USC, and I say to him, why didn't Sammy night, get drafted. And he says, nobody's going to have a ten to the NFL to your career played twelve years in the NFL player, I knew. Thurman it a lot of people knew it. It's the process of drafting is the most inexact science in the world. So Sodano who reminded me of he reminded me of in the old movie moneyball the old scouts going. This is the way we do it. Sonata was like all good gym on the phone right now to tell you this three player draft. And he just goes wrong, just because then never is, so now the general manager he gets you on with is thinking three player draft. That's why he's probably gonna get fired in two might say, and to be fair to George his point was if all the GM's think it's a three player draft and you have picked four through twenty then you're not going to get much for, because GM's don't value it. And I understand that part of it. But my point is if you're looking at a draft that way, you're wrong. No never three player draft. That was the case coups wouldn't went where he went and been, you know, the guy that he is has been in the NBA or or key. Look at the other guys look at the teams that are left, okay, the best team in the league is Golden State. All right. Steph went seven clay. Went eleven Draymond went thirty four. Yeah. All right. You go to Milwaukee. Jaanus went fourteen on the hot at Hawaii went fourteenth. All right, all the best player. Oh, you go to you. Go to Portland to look at Lillard and look at in Lillard went six McCollum went late in the first. And so there's a million examples and was getting. So I got a quick sample of how angry he was. I've never heard John this step by George. These are the same GM's the ones you're still there. He strapped guy that of the old days hockey. I have new respect for Yukio banging my head against the wall. I wouldn't go back and forth with it'd be quiet. You know, but look, everybody has their opinion about where people should go. And what type of draft this is and, and, you know, certainly everybody's saying in sports, and sports, Geno. You've been around Jaafar longtime the moment that one person says this, the second person says third. Everybody else gets lazy easy for them to say. Even even when they think even when they think they know in their mind that that's not what it is. They're still going to say it. I see it in football all the time. And I tell people in football, tell these guys they're not looking to draft high. Anyway. They looking for value. Right. They can push a guy down and get a guy who's project the top five if they get him into twenties. They're like, yes. Look what I've done. I've saved money and I got the guy that I want. That's just there's a draft controversy like Laremy Tunsil. The kid Miami took. And he'd got smoking weed, and he dropped Warren Sapp drop. Yeah. But he wasn't known we. But anyway, that's I'm just saying that your point. They, they like. It they'll, they'll say, oh, it's a terrible situation for the young man. You're exactly right. They like all right. So did you get a chance to watch the game last night? I watched about three watched about three and a half quarters of the blazers played great. They just blew the lead in the seventeen point lead. And I think it got crushed to about thirteen and we'll at, at the end of the third quarter, it was tied. They arrays the entire lead in the third quarter. And at the end of the game, the warriors had a three point lead came and let at a chance to tie it. He had found we talked about that. But key, the thing that came out. That's interesting. Is it Kevin Durant tonight, even going on the plane to Portman he's out for games three and four. And I think the words are gonna win the series I think Portland's got their hands full but, but as long as Durant out in my opinion, Portland has a has a punchers chance. Yeah. That's true. They, but the problem that you have is always going to travel guys yesterday, or today before, even is when you are a veteran team that knows how to. Jumpstart yourself you never panicking. You never get down when something starts to go Rominger down seventy points. I never sat there was like I wish they had Kevin Durant. No. Because they can race lead like that. I did. And they, they could hit the reset button from four five years ago when they wanna championship when Durant wasn't on a team even though they would love to have Durant. They still know how to win without Durant in there. Steve Kerr and right Brown still knows how to put the right team on the floor in the right things. Do Steph curry, obviously, since Durant's been gone is basically taking completely over. And can we stop with this? With this thing. The warriors are better without Durant. They are there. They're all they're two different. What the point just made? Yes. And what I just said are two different things who why do you why do you think they're better without because hates Kevin, who doesn't like, Kevin Durant. He crybaby said he always wanted to do. Every starts acting like little animal. Weeping in panoramic. Well for one records, his one thing you see the record. But when you watch them, play not just record the way would see Kerr's offense built around ball movement. Quickness fam-, everyone moving what is Durant game 'isolation. And guess what in Renoir was right on his he's at the players have more stun horse, right? When have more fun playing without derive their brand branch, they may be having more fun with rent if you're trying to make the argument without with, with that they're better without him. It's crazy. But that's what that's what people like him that don't like him wants to make because they want to find better without they wanna make that Sam is, though, that this, that he's just holding donate does not holding them. They'll need them a lot of hell today, sign they don't need because he's a little baby, and he couldn't beat them one. He went to say why he signed with them. I said, why did they sign falls in your life? All right. John. So I think that when you look at the warriors Kevin Durant and things that he's capable of doing. Yes, they can win games without him. But they certainly like to have him because they don't need it to be as close as being. Right. Well the runaway with do you agree with Barkley that they cannot win a title unless he comes back. Barkley says walkie will beat them. If Katie doesn't come back. I don't I don't know. I don't know that the true 'cause I don't know if Milwaukee's gonna beat Toronto, just because they deal, what they did the other. Yeah. Trying to chance. And by the way that game tonight we carry in that game. We've got tonight for you at five thirty in, and then John is forced him not going on the trip you will start to see people like Rosh. Oh, look. They don't even want him on a trip. They don't even want him on the plane. No, he's injured. There's no need to play when you're up to oh, and you're staying he standing around all day long on his calf. You know, he's got proper leg up a certain way to sit at home and watch. There's no need to travel. It, it doesn't seem to me like LeBron or I'm sorry. I everything about LeBron that Durant is going to play unless they absolutely need them in this series. Why would he be right? Right. There's no point they're up to there's no need all of a sudden, if it's a, a three to situation and it looks real tight in the three to situation in and he's healthy. Then at that point, you may want to look to him and say, hey, can you go or you hundred percent? Do you feel like going, and then he'll let you know, but in terms of the championship in the final, he certainly will be with them for sure. The Rooney rule is in the news, again, the rule in the NFL that says, if you have an opening for general manager or a coach, you have to interview minority candidates Amen Madre. What if you already have somebody in mind for the job and everybody knows he's going to get it. What did the minority candidates do, then we'll put that too key next? I'm John Ireland in for Travis paying. Off a bet 'cause I can't putt morning show any. SPN. LA. Today. I'm John Ireland paint off a bit. I lost Travis and I have to host this show actually having fun app. Then after my own show today at noon, so. I am double. Dipping today. Do that. That was the bet. Yeah. You recognize this music at the birthday today on rundown. Okay. This is king. Can't say that. I do these are the new kids on the block now. This is the older of the nights, right? Jordan. Nate right. Crews new kids on the buck and not. Not you know they're still it's the first one key. Jordan night. I can't believe almost fifty. I guess Johnny ward, probably isn't. It's fifty. It was. It was on the wall. Bergh's was the ones that were on Johnny every time with him. I was more of a met half of them. Well, Burks, right. Or are you Forty-six? Yeah, you've met some of these guys, but at Donnie Wahlberg. No Mark Wahlberg Donnie. But I don't know the other Mark our kids on the block. But although Chris, he had a hit. Yeah, you hit with the funky bunch vibe rations. Yeah. And that was after he did like Bobby Brown broke away from the new kids. Okay. Anyway, he was never Mark was number in the new kids with this belt. You. Belt. You. I saw him on there before Chris. You've been in music, since you came out of the womb, these guys argue with you every day. But that's the bit. It's okay. No. It's not a bit. It's he's fat. And he's stupid. Four years only forty nine. Happy birthday night. Birthday is brought to you by Jaguar land. Rover of Newport Beach off seventy three by the sea. That's by Cronin. Damore. Let me ask you one year old teams jets is in the news, they fired their GM agai Mike Mackin earlier in the week, he lost power struggle with Adam gays, so Adam gazes temporarily the interim GM, but everybody around the NFL and I know this from, from hanging around with you that most of the people in the NFL knows who's getting these jobs before they ever get filled and the buzzes that Joe Douglas, who's the VP of player personnel for the eagles is going to get this GM, but the jets have to comply with the Rooney rule. They have to interview minority candidates before they can announce. They've hired Joe. Douglas. Hey, man. So I was thinking about something you could get this call you played for the jets you've spent a career in media, you could be GM key, if they called you. And they said, Keyshawn we use favor and interview for this job. It'll help us comply for the Rooney rule, you'll get an interview you're probably not getting. But would you do it? What would you say not interested? I'm not going to interview for the interview. Right. It's kind of tokenism. Yeah, it is. And I wouldn't I wouldn't do it because you're trying to go around the Rooney rule to get what you want when you already know what you're gonna do. I mean that right. Just you're not gonna use me. I'm not gonna I'm not gonna help you accomplish your goals, which is to get the Rooney rule passed over by just bringing in minority down. Hacking it up for ten minutes and then that's it. And I don't have a real shot at getting Jonathan Jones. Who's a writer African American writer for the for Sports Illustrated is suggesting you even take this a step further that if you get a call, you should publicly say what you just said to anyone who asks. In other words, he thinks all minorities should turn down. These interviews to make a point that the Rooney rule is not working, and it needs to be restructured. What do you think of that idea it, it? It, it does work to a degree Tomlin, right? Yeah. Well, everybody points to Mike Tomlin. Okay. Yeah. Mike. Tom we'll because everybody's was a locked to get that job isn't hunt. It was wasn't wasn't hunt. The offense of coordinator. It was the the offense align, the longtime Pittsburgh Steeler hall of fame offense. My gosh, I can't think of his neck. Yeah. It was a guy who had gotten the job rest grim. Okay. Was supposed to get. The job was Redskins guy. Must have been what he was off. It's a line cook. I pittsburgh. Yeah. He was supposed to get it. Then all of a sudden they said, you know what hold on? We want to interview one other guy in an interview with the rule because rule it wasn't in comply with the rule. I thought it was because the Rooney's his I think they just felt like this, this interview him. Let's not pass on this. And Tomlin knocked Tom the knocked it out at a park, but I think when you any rules, a good idea in general. I think it's old. They need to look at it stale, when it first came into play many years ago you were like, yeah, yeah, finally, but then people play around with it. Right. Okay. You look at like you look at the Dallas Cowboys win way Phillips left, they already had a guy in standing right there in Jason gear. Did Mark Davis even talked to anyone else? Besides. Jon gruden. Exactly. I mean exactly I don't t- Morton, we t- more and takes the interview with the raiders. I get it raiders goofy. They hired lane kiffin for crying out loud. They hire Steve are Keesey. I mean so if you, if you t- morning, you take that interview because they might do some wild, even though you hearing grew and grew Gruden you still take that interview what of your team more right? What about the theory that people say, well, all us us examples here, Kishan, you should take the interview even if you're not going to get it, because going through the interview process will help you nail it the next time. Because the interview process is not going to be legit interview. Right. Just going to be a let's let's sit around and in in twenty minutes and play around, you know, and, and that's it. It's not going to be a real interview you're not getting the entire office in. You're not sitting down with everybody the asking you whose coordinators are going to be what? The staff gonna look like what type of defense offense you thinking about running, they're not going to go through the whole process with you because in the back of their mind already made up, who they're going to hire. I don't even ju Jared did air Zona, even interview anybody before Kingsbury. No. And they actually fired a black head coach to put Kingsbury in lack tequila. Hey, by the way, would you will that out forever? Would you ever want to be Jim? I think you could do it. I've had the opportunities in the past, but everything is, is east of California. So the right situation for your family have to be rice situation. My family in, you know, San Diego the Rams the chargers the Niners raiders raider. Seattle, okay. Arezzo night. That's pretty much when you start talking about his time in your life. You're, you're not moving. You're picking up your life and moving when I had an opportunity I had an opportunity when I first retired to, to be a pot of the Miami Dolphins and said, in interview not interview, but we set and we talked before we even got into an interview I remember this Bill parsoes here, and he you had a history with him, and he wanted to, like Bill, first of all economic suicide. Secondly, I got a life in. I'm not moving my family from California to south beach is just not going to happen. I was respected you for retiring. When you did continue have seventy catches the year before you retired could've kept going ahead. It was seventy yes. That's that's rare. Two hundred and fifty five yards. No no two hundred fifty thousand almost at a g for two hundred and fifty five yard no, that's true almost a thousand yards with five different quarterbacks that matter of fact I think your yards per catch was pretty consistent through your whole career. I think you were around thirteen career. He's not L. I'll tell you that your may be good break. Break. All that's great to him to hate. There's a report out there that the Rams are going to lean more on Jared Goff than ever before. We'll get into that next morning show. ESPN LA, little Bobby Brown for you in the morning. It's nice to work with Johnny. I she knows the songs. Travis is always Louis, but. What I admire about the morning shows, you guys play all John Rich's of everything, because we're show, the people very, very, very evident in your music, you music capon later. Why not? Right key the there's reports out there. We all know that Todd Gurley. Got a knee problem. The Rams won't admit it. But it's clear. He's got one. Would you say Mason? We're kicking this around, but, you know, veteran us would you say fifteen touches a game for girly is about the number this year? No light, right. Fifteen touches fifteen that's he's not even planning Canadian fifteen. How about fifteen carries five no, no? He's touch the ball at least thirty times again. Well, that's what he did. Now. You don't buy the knee thing I by something's wrong with his knee. But that was in January. Right. We're now in June, basically, what if it's our three dick, then we'll deal with it when it comes when he when he starts to have the same issues. He had in the late season. Then we'll dress it at the time, but we're not going into the season saying early going get fifteen if they have to. Could they build that offense around your Goth throat take take eight to ten carries away from early and throw more is gos- capable of that? Those throws can be. Substitutes for the run game you don't have to have, especially in today's NFL. You don't have to have down the field. Piercing throws me can run bubbles. You could throw stick routes which little five. Little hitches, depending on the coverage you can throw screens. I mean there's certain things that you do the knowingly patriots day. They have a pretty solid run game. Right. But a lot of star running back dinking dunk stuff is as a substitute for the run game. So I think Jere golf can do it certainly need. They need to run the ball at times, though, to be able to loosen up the defense and not have everything rely on golf third year for McVeigh. All right. Double digit wins in each of his first two years, the division is not strong, Arizona, Seattle, San Francisco. The I would say the division, I would argue with you say division is going to be stronger this year than it was that previous to. That's kind of where it's going. Arizona's the Rams. Do I step back of except hey, I didn't mean we're talking about the Rams in Arizona division. Yeah. Oh my God. So I had to go to the NFL PA last night. Yeah. When I went for, like hour, okay. I swear to God if I'm lying. I'm dying. All right. You're bigger than Kyla. Mary Kane I swear for some team in person first time I've seen him since he was in high school. How much does that matter? I, I was I was sitting there going. Oh my God is I had to turn them a boy who standing next to. And do like five two. They list him at five ten five eleven. You don't think he's he's measures? Oh my God. No, he was walking. So he was next to depot. Samuel deebo Samuel small receive it at the nine drafted from South Carolina, right? He's there, where at the NFL rookie premiere this do a swear team it. He couldn't have been anybody been five team. But it's a it's a it's one of those five Tim, I really five eight. Okay. Let's say five eight would that alone. Keep you from taking him. Oh my God. Yes. It's not easy question. I wouldn't I wouldn't touch Wilson is five, but so in Muggsy Bogues was five seven. And he played the NBA Russell. Listen to me he was. Is Kyla Murray actually was built. It was thick, but he wasn't. He wasn't wide like his, his back was narrow. But he was he was. You wanna thick gotta have you gotta have meat on his bones, and he has to be a certain size. I'm not taking a quarterback. I don't care what you did in college. I need you to be at least six one in the buff. Why? Because I need you to be able to see over the offense ally. And I know you say an in gloomy, NFL, NFL, office line. I know I get all that. In college, though, the splits are wider. They got wide splits in the pros, you put a wide. Splitting their see what Aaron Donald gonna do that. He's going to eat that y split up, so fast he's going to run right through it. Right through by the way, speaking of the cardinals after you guys got off the air yesterday. Patrick Peterson who is an elite defensive back man fell. Eight pro bowls suspended for six games for failing a drug test. Here's Adam Schefter on Peterson. I think this belief by a lot of layers of people did not want to believe that this could happen to somebody with a record and resume is pristine as Patrick Peterson. Somebody who's been to the Pro Bowl in age trait years who's never missed a game. Somebody hours cardinals recounting on tremendously and it has to be huge disappointment within the cardinals organization as they're getting ready to end off the offense and the team to calamari. They needed the defense to be stout and strong early in the year while column regained his footing. Well now you just lost your best defender. You're Pro Bowl cornerback is out the first six weeks and isn't eligible to play again until October twentieth at the New York Giants, jeez. So he's out 'til mid October key. I'm not so sure the cardinals were gonna compete even with Peterson. What do you think? No, they would they would go to compete, but you certainly want to have a guy on the field. That helps you went gives you tune a win a game. He's terrific. Con corner the NFL obviously one of the better corners that have played in the last ten years. We got caught cheating. Oh, have any sympathy for. I don't have sympathy for PD people. I just don't. This is not the first time. So now I wonder have you been cheating me entire time? Right. This this time have you been cheating for a while. I mean like you know you he's a really good player. But now you've got this dark cloud over U, P D's, and it can be, I didn't know, I took a supplement to say, you know what's coming next. There's going to be a story about, like he's diabetic and he took it supplemented. You don't buy any of those stores. I it's fine if he's diabetic. And he took us up amid in doctor prescribed at that's one thing. But that see like that seem based on the early information that this has anything to, to medical condition. It seems like it has something to do with. I'm going to get an edge these getting a little older. And if it's something that he'd tried for the first the second time still is no excuse forty still cheating, but I could certainly understand that he wants to continue to get that money. So by the way Peterson. Said he he was had a charity event last night. And he said he's known about the six game suspension for months at it. He's looking forward to putting it behind me. So I think most people probably agree with you. In so he's a good. He's a really good player. You know, has a potential future hall of Famer, but this dark cloud PD's, cheat not just lapped. I'm not with the cheating, though. But I got off, I got off when I talked about Arizona telling me about the conference as a whole in how it wasn't viewed as tough conference. Well, if division division, I'm sorry, tough decision. But I think it is. I think Seattle is gonna come back. I think the Rams are gonna be study these San Francisco. Garoppolo comes back. I thought that their drafts Cisco drafts pretty decent the last couple years. I think they'll be in the mix a little bit. So it it'll be a better division. It has been in the past around the Rams. Certainly got they work cut out form this year. All right. Coming up latest Zion Williamson Deontay wilder, the boxer says he wants to kill somebody all that experience. He's excellent looking forward to it. I'm John Ireland pay enough. My bet to Travis. This is the morning show any SPN LA.

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Toffoli Trade Reaction w/ Carrlyn Bathe & The Royal Half

All The Kings Men

38:59 min | 1 year ago

Toffoli Trade Reaction w/ Carrlyn Bathe & The Royal Half

"The right side of the Voinov overshot. Donna brought me off. You're listening to all the king's men. The official todd cast of the La Kings. Three Tha pie shop here. Kaczynski Block I Apollo for Copa Tar to pull me on right wing with a shot. Any scores Tyler. Toffoli COMPLETES TREK WERE THEY EMPTY. Net goal here with four. Now here's your host Jesse Cohen. Walking makings fans. I am Jessica. This is all the king's men we've spoken Rob Rudnik from northeastern university about Tyler Madden. We'VE SPOKEN TO THOMAS. Grants from the athletic about Tim. Schallert we've heard from Rob Blake. We know the hall. The kings got back from treating tyler to fully but in this episode. I WanNa talk about Tyler. Toffoli and what he and Tanner Pearson and Jake Mohsen. Kyle Clifford Jack Campbell. And all the rest of them meant to La Kings joining me now from Fox sports west Carlin Bait. How're you doing it in Harlem o? I'm wonderful Jesse around ten fifteen pm and I'm in a hotel in Winnipeg so doesn't get much better than hells no all right. Well kept for them. The reason I wanted to talk to you. It's bittersweet day. He's really just sort of bitter as the kings trade topic. Toffoli reason I wanted to talk to you is obviously. He scored a hat trick in stadium series game against the Colorado Avalanche. You were there I didn't think it was appropriate for the NBC guys to talk as much as they did about the potential of him being traded. But I'm assuming it had to be a topic of conversation or at least started hanging in the air. Did you get the sense that it was? You know that the the the guys tyler in particular knew that this was going to be some sort of last hurrah. I am not sure if they knew when but I think it's it seemed like it's it's always just seems like on this journey to the deadline that everybody kind of soaking everybody. Cotentin last Hurrah without putting a label on it and I was a little shocked that you know in in a game that has so much theater to it where they're outdoors and the whole dry. The fact that it's this you know epic stadium series battle. I was a little bit shocked that questions. We're asking on the post game. Presser but about potential trading and reporters got a report totally respect that. But like that's not where my mindset was wrapped up in in the theater and the production and the the entirety of Of what that game was rather than what the future could be for this player. So I my head wasn't there. I can't say with the where the players had four but it's just been this kind of eerie looming sense of what's going to happen next and I think everybody's been a little bit more friendly. We're making sure where our last interactions with whomever we're talking to is a good one just in case moments like tonight Hafid were. You never know when you're gonNA see them again. I gotta Say I am a little stunned. At how hard some fans are taking this. I mean it's never fun to lose a guy who was drafted by organization at won the Stanley Cup with your team. You know who with roots in the community? The way he does but people are. I mean there's there is wailing gnashing of teeth. Renting of clothing people are upset about this trade. I mean I would be too. I were in there shoes. He's he's one of the bigger names in the bigger faces of that organization and I mean the Kings such a good job at leading you take a peek into their lives and people know his wife's name people know his dog names. People see him when they're around the South Bay like it's so hard to not take it personal and you know I think fans are expecting some big moves but I mean people just kind of create this persona. That goes along with. Who Tyler to fully is and I think they're losing a part of that. They're losing the cupcake means like you know what I mean. That's seventy lines. Officially totally demolished in being reunited are reunited in Vancouver. But I I totally advertise with with the fan base and can completely understand why. There's just a giant uproar I mean are you are if you take yourself in. Put it in the human element of all of this. Jessie are you. Are you a little upset as well as kind of something that you kind of look at in a business way or do you totally upset I for me? There is a a huge scar on my sports fans. Soul from when they traded wrote a tie and so every subsequent scar you know has to contend with that original one so right so there's nothing that can devastate me anymore because that was that was the one but but yeah yeah but but for me the issue is I see a guy in Tyler Toffoli and in Tanta Pearson in another players who have been traded and who ultimately probably be traded. Who seemed like a really good guys and who I enjoyed watching you even when the team wasn't great even if I had complaints about his production or what have you. I still enjoy watching Tyler Foley. Score right in. There's tons of pictures of him from the Stadium Series Game. You know in the silver bucket. His hands stretched out after scoring one of his three goals. Any just looks right. You know. He's a king and rand. That's for me. That's the part that stings. Is that you know. I've spoken to my father about these players. Who have these moments that cement them as quote Unquote Real Kings Entire Foley absolutely one Kyle Clifford as well So yeah I completely understand again. I'm just surprised I guess. And it's part of just being old man I guess there's there's a new generation for this into a row so I was just going to say I think I think any member of either of the cup championships will forever sting way worse and and harder for the fan base than people who you know. Who's only been here for handful years or less than that. Just all of these cup winners are going to be the hardest ones to see. Go for sure you you your presence with the Kings Predates Tyler. Toffoli arrival now. It post dates his departure What did you see about you know? What did you watch? I don't even know how to ask this question. How did you see him? Grow as a person. Never mind as a player. I feel like I saw him turn into an adult. That makes sense and I. I've been around the team since two thousand eight so in a way we've all kind of C- seen each other turn into adults cope. Copays actually really vocal about that. And so drew. They'll they've mentioned a couple of times. You know we kind of grew up together. And I'm like yes SORTA Kinda. I'm a little bit older than to fully and I just feel like I've always just watched him flourish whether it was in his game or around the community and what he'd done was little King's program and how he kind of tied his his face to that with the kings and and how he's you know just really opened up as a human and it's just been it's been nice to see that evolution of holy like not just on the ice but off as well. I mean people have seen pictures of him on his wedding and he's you know he's a full grown adult now so it's just weird. It's really weird when I take myself out of the reporter role and think about how tied these guys are to the identity of the team in the franchise be accomplished. And it's just weird really weird it is as you were saying that it made me think of this. Anybody will relate to this on any level but because he was on the second line because the team had copay tar doughty. Quick you know Carter some of these bigger names. I suppose around and it's one thing to have a hero traded. It's another thing to have a player who maybe feels like you're younger brother and I'm sure there are plenty of their for tyler. Toffoli IS OLDER. But yes yes. That's the perfect way to put it. It's like you're you're losing your little brother. But he's everybody's little brother but it's just kind of we. I think we've you these guys the way that these guys these guys like you can kind of sense that maybe also looks like that By his teammates as well so definitely definitely feel. It won't look. I appreciate you taking time out of your fancy. Winnipeg hotel life to talk to us about this thank you. I really appreciate it Jesse. I will say this I. When the news broke I was heading down to the lobby to wait for some some friends to go to dinner and Tyler had come out of the elevator with his sticks and his stick back and he looked like he was gonna be okay and I gave him a big hug. And I definitely geared up. Because there's this human element and all of this and I was at a total loss for words but it was. It was a really special moment that I kind of just got to see him before he hopped in that cabin and went off and He was in good spirits. And just I just want people to know that there was no hanging low. There was no walking out with a shoulder slum. He looked like tyler fully just walking out and taking a cab to go somewhere so I just hoping to know that he. He didn't leave looking miserable sound while I hope he's okay. I hope you're okay. And obviously we hope King Sanzar. Okay be maybe a few more of these days but was not here. No not yet but soon we'll see when you get back home. Thanks again Carl. Thank you Jesse. Talk to you joining me tonight. It's bittersweet love having him on never in these circumstances my best hockey buddy royal half Harry doing tonight bath of doing well Jesse. Hockey Gods give that seventies line and the hockey gods take that seventies line yeah all in one swoop actually because two thirds of them now being gifts to the Vancouver canucks fans also wait. Roll back to your show. Were starting to have a like times like these murders on tiny piece of my kings fan. Heart has been okay. I'll take it so low. First things first All Jokes Aside Tyler. Toffoli and his wife really actually. How does that a lot? I know you tweeted about it but I want to give you a chance to talk about what it meant just on a personal level. Yeah so for for the blog during its heyday. We had some kind of cursor awareness that the players knew about it or were you know would laugh or chuckle at some of the photo shops and memes and whatnot but when it came time for bark madness you know Bark Mattis. It's you know it's it's as Corporate as you can get now at home but there was a time where it was a grassroots organization where I didn't know I didn't say that it's don't beat something I real- It really was. I mean we have a as as bloggers. We had no access to the players the fans or or to their to their dogs. Yeah we were fans their dogs but we know access to that made rely on instagram and twitter cut a behind. The scenes. Cat Really helped get US access to The dog photo good photos of the dogs to be able to use in several scenes bark madness and wishes invaluable and as much as we tried our best to to Iowa caucus the system and make dodger to holy a winner. We never were able to do it and we were very appreciative of the two. Foley's even after dodger losing every year helping us out so again a an ice behind the story to to to really show the impact that the police had not just on the ice off the ice with the fans and I mean they really did and part of it I think is that tyler to fully. I mean we had co Petar. We have Brown. We had quick. We had doughty. There were a number of guys on that two thousand twelve Stanley Cup run that were drafted and developed way. All saw grow up. But they're sort of an element of you know seeing something once and and you're just overwhelmed by the shock of it but then seeing it a second time you get to really sort of enjoy it I think and Tyler defoliation and Tanner Pearson Jake Muhsin to me anyway represented a much different emotional affection than that first round of guys. Yeah no I get that and it was a little bit of the. Hey we're GONNA be able to keep this going on. Yeah you know with with with young picks And and young John Young players. And you know the I can't tell you how I mean to fully was our second round pick in in twenty ten which was the Drought that was in. La cracked so So we were able to literally be in the in the room when he was selected and so he just kind of. I think whether it's the name is Tyler Toffoli it just. It's a great name. You know just like you can separate yourself from as a player You're right it was a little bit of a source of excitement for kings fans to be like. Hey we might. We might be able to do this. One more time and low behold a year and a half later Yup Yup and they're having lived. There was something I don't know Theatrical about the fact that he appears in Carter came together on that line. What was it called? I believe it was called at seventy nine. That's right but I mean they were so crucially important to that second cup run and it was like this extra flourish in the team would want in two thousand twelve and all of a sudden right. Carter's role completely changes. And now you have these two new young faces and I mean I've been surprised is not the right word but I've been really eat on. Scores surprised at how some people aren't many seeing the tweets and the instagram posts. People are people are crying and yelling at the at the heavens people are not happy about this right. Yeah and I think the IT started with the Muslim trade last year and and and a lot of people. I think even our boy. Raymond tweeted out that Trevor. Lewis gets traded the entire with what we Matt Green was the last player he checked the puck up to start playing for the cup winning golden fourteen so all those players which I think for a lot of successful franchises that this is a normal kind of standard operating procedure. Eventually these players either age out or or rebuild begins and seeing to holy be shipped. I I think the shock is just so so soon after one of one of the highlight of the last two to three seasons was as great outdoor game experience that the kings were part of and to fully having the first ever outdoor hat trick and being the third player of the week. Like I think not. I think the most real list kings fan knew that he was going to be traded. I mean he's unrestricted. Free agent. It would it would be We would be more upset if he wasn't treated yes. He walked away and and wasn't able to resign with the Kings. We would be just as sad as we are seeing him traded. But I think the fact that it happened so quickly after that outdoor game. I think stunned a lot of people. Yeah and you know we always were I. Guess I always certain separate the kings fans into errors or classifications. Whatever so for those of us who are our age. It's weird because we never had successful players to see leave before there'd be Romo Thailand Lever. Blake would leave And you'd say okay. Well maybe they can win somewhere else and you kind of rooting for them to have a young player drafted by the King's developed by the Kings who played in the minor league system. You watched you waited from show up. You showed up and then they want and now he's what twenty eight seven twenty seven and that's the thing like it's not some grizzled veteran. I looked at and saw that. Roughly or Rub Lake but a Dustin Brown was thirty five and I almost had a heart attack. Now you know but to fully twenty seventies in the prime of his career for it for a goalscoring a player so it is it is bittersweet that going but you know. I think we kind of made this joke in our offline group. But if you're going to have a last image of Tyler Toffoli as Los Angeles King that shot at the. La Kings account was tweeting out. Leftover right the other night of him smiling and fist pumping after scoring that goal. I mean there couldn't be a better way to cap this guy's career because he always had a smile on his face he always was happy. Go lucky and and he can always put the puck in the net. So it's it's it's it's great. I think they do make a statue of him. Yeah of which I don't know how high others that you love Tyler. Toffoli editor where he rigs the statue Index there yet. Maybe he comes back with that Jersey. Would be the the GO-TO for this Atchoo. He's almost doing the same post at the roadside Roman statuettes. Doing it's true in some of those sorts of both arms up getting back to the other half of the fan base. The ones who grew who literally grew up with Tyler. Toffoli right because at this point it's been ten years ten wasted my life but if you're anywhere from fifteen thirty You know these these guys. Kyle Clifford Tyler. Toffoli appears Jake Muhsin. You mentioned them possibly Trevor Lewis. I mean these are the these guys that won the COP. It's not just the guys that when the car toys a little bit exception but but they were also the early the first ones in you know they were two thousand they to me my fondest memory of of that era obviously winning a cup. Both Times was was like unbelievable but but the first time the kings made it back to the playoffs in two thousand ten after being out of the playoffs for nearly ten seasons like that against Vancouver that first year where they lost the first round series. that to me was like that was pinnacle and some guys on that team number was was clifford. Richardson and Richardson's Simmons Alive. I think we call them the three migos. So yes the fact that part of that group for for the fans that came in the door right before it all happened which I'm all for it Yeah this is one of the biggest names for them to be connected to the to be traded. Well this I mean the canes rise to success coincided with social media right so when you know the ninety three cup run I didn't have read. I couldn't be finding out what conquer likes to eat for dessert. Or what warrant right. He loves cheesecake. And I didn't know it weren't regular dog was named right. I just had you know your news racks. His name is rex. Radical film critic extraordinary So I mean yeah I feel for people because Tyler Toffoli it's not like he was bubbling over with personality. You know he wasn't. Pk Superman or anything. But he always yeah Seattle dog. He loves you know we knew his life. It's just I'm just looking at the kings drafting into tyler. Toffoli was drafted. Two years after drew. Doughty is not you know in that in in in those draft from two thousand seven on you had well you had Trevor Lewis in two thousand six you had Martinez and seven Win Simmons and seven Dwight King in seven and eight. You had a out nine. You had Clifford and Jordan Nolan seventh route three times the Cup winter surprisingly strong draft in two thousand to fully forber in intent. So it's just yeah. It's it's it these are to us. I think we still Kinda see them as young prospects but like we said there there guys that are in the prime of their career in our are heading onto their second chapter and I think you know look obviously when when a team struggles the kings have. Recently people like to point fingers and say This or that or blame it on this that and the other thing one of the things that always sort of aggravated me about the criticisms of fully was that he never quote unquote developed into a top line player and he had all this potential won an award juniors for the best right winger and one season where he scored thirty goals. And then everybody. You know likes to malign him for not ever fulfilling that promise but to me they. He was never really given an opportunity. And that's just the price of success. Right there veterans that are GonNa that are going to get playing time whether it was Gabriella Carlucci Kovalchuk Brown. You know there was a cyst always a body. They're sort of keeping him. Tethered to Jeff Carter on that second line. I'm hoping that he goes in becomes the player that everybody expects it to in There won't be any you know wistfulness or bitterness on my part if he does ten hasn't Vancouver's a lot of whistle hasn't bitterness on my part for that one. But yeah for Tyler fully. I just wish him the best. I mean. Honestly it's funny I I. I remember seeing him as a young player in tracking him in Manchester and then when he got called up and he just had such a quick release. I it's funny. You just refresh my memory. I think we made fun of it. Countless Times on the blogger on twitter that was he was always a right winger or left wing playing on the right side like He. He really struggle those first couple of years because he was on his off wing and it just was like mind boggling to me that someone was so much talent could be. You know. He just didn't play that wing and when they moved up over the other wing. That's when it really clicked with them but seventies line but I remember remember sitting next to my the guys my section when my season seats. I'm telling you this guy is going to be the next robot Robo Tie. He obviously did not turn out to be the next robot. But you're right it wasn't. It was a lack of opportunity. And it's funny you see them kind of consistently beyond the first line. Let's go came. It's done pretty well. Finally on the top line I think it was a we did a T. R. H. Suite night when you're in I think it was against Edmonson where he had that play where he carried it across on his back. Footfall you just rips it and I think you and I both said a number of times that for a season or two at least there was only one guy. Get us out of our chairs so to speak on a on a scoring opportunity in it was it was tyler Toffoli. I mean Guinness Solid for what? He was You know like you said never turned into into the next Luebbe type but those earlier pretty shoes to task someone to fill. Yeah I've just secure you know because I'm looking at the the land combos for the Connects right now and I'm just so curious to see where he goes. Because they have Ericsson Miller on the first line and you know Pearson and the Vert Vert Virtanen. Britain pretended on the second line when they tweeted out today. After the trade that a blanket on the two names they've got two guys at Bar Brock bestseller and And I think done for the season Besser out for at least three weeks. They'll reevaluate it so I mean they. They need it. Yeah and I had. I asked Lake if this was a question of Vancouver accelerating the move because they needed bodies or or if there was just a price that the kings knew they had the the trade from other than last year. They said you know somebody gave us what we wanted. So we said yes so anyway. It's a bummer. But on the flip at least we have a body to pay attention to coming back. The kid that they get from northeastern university. Who I'm told is. Ob Maker candidate this year. Yeah I saw the name Tyler Tyler. Mad and right yeah and I didn't even think twice a bit until you brought it up it's four John John Madden have tyler when he was like eighteen like John Madden that old like he was. He was part of that doubles team. I remember he had some success there and he was on the wild. But like that's crazy that this is. His son tweeted or instagram. Or something interview with him about his kid and he doesn't look. He hasn't looked that old. He's forty six forty seven. Yeah okay. But he's six and he's got. How old is I mean he's what eighteen nineteen okay. He pretty early but yeah and the Guy Retired in eleven twelve so it wasn't that long ago eight years now in kings history. Wasn't that long ago that you retired So yeah it's crazy to me that it's John Madden's can and And they got now. Let Me Understand. The the second is actual second. And then what are the conditions? Because you know me loveless conditional pets. What are the conditions? How many Games has Jack Campbell need to win in order for us to get another pick from the Vancouver canucks? Is that how this works three more for us to get that from Toronto but al also the Vancouver having an easing all we need. Nhl three-way trade where conditions are like you know. That's that's good. That's legalized gambling. Because my bet is it's basically like okay. I mean look trading traffickers league. I I think I think it's criminal that GM controller for traffic than get fired. And you know that. Pick can wind up being a franchise savior of some of the team. But now the condition is if to fully resigns Vancouver The kings get a fourth round pick. Okay that's a look. I'd rather if if this truly was the kind of best I offer that came in. I'm fine with both with trading and like you said earlier the Muslim trade getting those assets for it You know I I think the the Clever trade is going to end up looking like a really great trade As well for the mouth got for him so And I know that everyone from you know the the the athletic to some other blogs who'd never heard over are saying that the king's farm system is so great So exciting that they restock it but it's also a little bit of reminder that the plan is invoked might be a few years but you Australia Rate Games look at good right the whole teams in their last ten or something like that. They look incredible. Everybody should go. But but the one of the you know if the royal half blog were still operating a full power power trevor. More from thousand oaks and at Tyler Madden at from northeastern university. Which only important because of course Alex Faust and a few other members of the King's front office our love of northeastern so I fully expect to hear tons about The bean pot the hobey Baker and and and the thousand oaks hockey and the next the next month just it would just put a final point on it John Madden had tyler madden in his rookie year when he was twenty five years old cheese. Just just to understand how this crazy world goes around well hopefully tyler madden won't be rookie when he's twenty five because he's twenty now so or hoping for a slightly faster time line into the NHL half thank you very much for joining me Jesse I've one big question for you before you bumi off his out gaps. Yeah what's going to be going through your mind when you see Tyler to fully in Tanta Pearson Lifting the Cup for the Vancouver canucks. I probably shouldn't say this out loud. But whatever the did you ever see how you probably observer sees that Jay and silent Bob Strike back. I think that was the name of the big I might. That might have been when I gave up on. In the end of the movie they prints out all of these negative comments that people have left them on their you know the equivalent of whatever they're calling. Imdb back in the and they fly to everybody's house and beat them up and then of course they're all little like twelve year olds you know anyway if If Vancouver wins the Cup and Civilian Volume Pearson play any sort of meaningful role in. I will be printing out all of the twitter comments and message board comments. I have seen maligning the two players and I will be on a road trip try. I believe. That's all that's called nowadays Having Receipts Yes. That's right is correct. Carlin asking for receipts when I said that pumper correctly predicted the star of the outdoor gay. Just taking a quick look at the connects roster again. We don't know exactly where to fully lined up. But Zack McEwen is a center. He's got number seventy one furlan referred to earlier. He's cautioned right. Yes seventy nine so very slim. Pickings to to have a Canadian version although. I don't know what met you at your Canadian. So over the metrics from seventies be in from from miles accommodations for for Canada. We'd be that forties line or something bad is according to my cousins. You've gotTa add twenty years of Culture Passing. So maybe that Nineties Line. I guess the work that into a treat there you go but I mean I'd be curious to see if to keeps seventy three. I just assumed that he and Pearson sort of had to keep those numbers after the personnel seventy in Vancouver so I would think yeah. We'll see anyway. We hope to have you on again. Hopefully not when a bunch of other players? Such such sad circumstance. Thank you for joining us in there. But I honestly I thought Bailey said it perfectly. Don't smile early. Say don't cry because it's over smile because it happened so huge. Thanks Tyler Toffoli. Anna's you said cat to fully for the Bailey for waxing poetic for Jesse Kurt different anyway. Thanks very much the half. Let's act. I mean joining me now. One of my favorite people favorite kings fans on you Lisa. How're you doing today? I'm Greg Jarrett. Well not not great and now the reason I wanted to have you on. Is that For anybody who has seen you at kings game Wearing the tyler. Toffoli Jersey festooned with little cupcakes. Little Fabric cupcakes cupcake you. You are resident queen of mean on team the royal half and you not only had a personalized Jersey. That you crafted up with little cupcakes. You also did the cupcake tracker every time towers volume score a goal. You'd have a little gift or a sticker of Cupcake to count the The occasion many okay. Yeah now like I said one of my favorite tremendous artists. But how much fun was it for you just as a fan to have a player with that kind of Gimmick enough to let you gals like let people call them cupcake and I I loved it you know when I first saw him coming up and he just had like this little baby face in your just like who is this kid. He's an adult male but my just when he played it was like so joyful and I think that's kind of what I was like. You know. Wow this is this is like pure love of the game so Being able to then figure out a way to celebrate that every time and then he was like really good so that was kind of fun to In in making the cupcakes and having the different teams it was just awesome. And then when you see him a typical thing and it's like I'm the crazy cupcake lady that was like yeah that's that's the one But Yeah so. It was really nice to be able to connect in that way and it was like from the fans. I'm not sure who started the whole thing but We definitely took it to the next level and even having like the sprinkles they did the best writer for that. It's awesome. Yeah Yeah that's that's pretty cool. We were trying to figure this out. The other day my recollection is that it was in the king's vision. I think it was coking's vision back then maybe not but but I think it appeared that. Right Pearson. I think it actually might have been Jones but the three of them were bestest buddies or maybe it was remember but one of the they were asked. You know what's what's so-and-so's favorite pastime. What's so and says favourite video game? What says they're asking questions and it came to the Foley was. What is his favorite dessert? I think it could have been shown to convince Pearson now that you sent it but anyway but the answer was cupcakes Luggage Yeah Okay and then I think it took off and I don't think he actually really cares that much about cupcakes. I don't think he does. I think later they like after this. Like the sprinkles I think they did it and it was just like he's like well. Okay what makes it even nicer that it's like what a nice? What a nice kid like. Okay sure cupcakes major sports star wants to be what was what was his reaction to your Jersey. And and the whole cupcake thing when you got. I think it was like He. He was always super super polite. You know what I mean like. Very nice and like okay. Like you're you're you must be crazy. That does this But I do my family too. So it's like you know take takes the Takes the the crazy down a little bit so we'll have a very nice it also yes they are? Yeah right far divall What what kind of reaction from the fans because again. This was one of those things. We've talked to the royal half earlier and as I said Tyler Toffoli not exactly bubbling over with personality but perfectly happy to let us transplant one onto him and I think just like open to it which is very cool and then for other people it was more like and if I'd be late like if I was you know having a life in maybe not watching single second. It was like A. Where are they worry about? Gotcha letting down kind of funny. Yeah so I kind of had to step away because it became A lot of time because you have Dan -ticipant at least the next three minutes. Three you gotta make a hat trick one but then you WanNa get to Jinchi with this. I was very in my head about a lot of that in the Steve and what they are we approaching GonNa be hosted. Valentine you know it was. It was a lot When you have a busy brain do that Yeah but but I think other people got really excited about it too. I think that made it a lot more fun. Because then it's like okay the cupcake really. It's not just it's not just me Harvey for me to give you homework on the podcast. But can we get a little chrome helmeted a cupcake or a little cupcake with? Do it like this has been. I was not expecting this day. So I'm like no But but yeah I. I'm taking solace in the fact that he was going to be with Pearson. So that's that's okay. Okay I can. I can live with that but absolutely I will. I will definitely be making dumping. He bars for thank you very much for joining us and I think we all say the same thing we say you know. Good luck in Vancouver cupcake. But it's just like you know he and cat too. They were like my little. I the first couple of La Sports you know. She's got the dodgers and he's got the kings and as you know you're losing more than a player. They were such a good. I don't know yeah representation of the city to sew. La Lost a little. Say It's a business but it never I know you're not supposed to get attached but come on non. We all do this. Otherwise otherwise wouldn't make billions of dollars every year if it was just business but they they get us in the feelings. They do that they do much on. Yuli. So we'll talk to you all right. Okay have a great one. Thanks for listening Kingston views as well.

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June 11th, 2012 - 1st Period

All The Kings Men

38:36 min | 1 year ago

June 11th, 2012 - 1st Period

"In the two clubs out on the ice we get set for the opening faceoff in game. Six kings up three games to two a win tonight and they win a Stanley Cup championship referees. For Game Six dan. All rourke and Chris Rooney the linesmen John Moran and Pierre Seco and the Kings with Jonathan quick will set up and defend to our right here in the first period. Defensively ROB CEDARY withdrew doughty. They start the Copa Tar line. With Williams and Brown Martin Brodeur in end goal for the devils defensively they start mark fain with Andy Green and L. starred their big line Travis Zajac with Ilya Kovalchuk and Zach Parisi and right now the two clubs lineup at their respective blue lines the fans standing here at Staples Center and and we'll get the playing and singing of the Star spangled Banner C. K. C. Bird was so utterly. Hey Woah Lastly me WHO's brought strives. Hi It's the Do we want worse. Who Again lease me the bombs through the Nah that our flag stew they own. Who say that Star spangled no uh-huh But who who has been a fixture here during the two thousand twelve plops and other great rendition of the Star spangled banner the Kings with Jonathan Quick defending to our right here here in the first period forty year old legend Martin Brodeur to our left. Roger has been in goal for the devils Stanley Cups. In their franchise history. I won in nineteen ninety five in two thousand and again in two thousand three for the devils their fifth trip to the finals. They lost the finals to Colorado in two thousand one and of course for the king's their second trip I was nineteen years ago. Nineteen ninety-three Gretzky. The era and Montreal took out the kings that year. Four Games to one. The kings leading three games took to cope COPA. Ktar Brown Williams will start again. ZAJAC PARISI and Koba chucking off the draw the PUCK swept into the king's own by ZAJAC quick plays lays it to his right for doughty who feeds co Petar Petar for Brown on left wing to the devils line Brown moving down low got rubbed out Williams in for the Puck to Brown Brown's spinning tried to make a play he's bumped off the puck winds up with the Blue Line scary sends it back in D Williams tied up by Andy Green and the devils play it to center ice for Cobra Chuck to the Kings Line shot goes off to dairies leg in into the corner ZAJAC pinned thereby doughty as Jeff Carter sent Brown through center Ice Brown ground stutter steps stops up the traders could area shot blocked kept in by the king's Brown sweets it in towards the net save brodeur and then after off Bro Durham the Dasher boards grow juror will cover up again the job thereby Dustin Brown moving down the left side side maybe you might want to challenge defenseman early on there especially when you're looking to move the puck up high the devils have done a great job with their back check their formative comeback aggressively wrestling. They're taking away that play the kings and even in game five penetrated rebel to get the puck down off but unable to get that lane to the net. So that might mean just putting the park to the net even episode Easy Save Burger it might create an offensive zone. Faceoff scoreless just underway here in game six at Stables Mike Richards with Jeff Have Carter Dustin Penner line out now Willie Mitchell Voinov. Patrick Kelly Sheehan For the draw for the devils Patrick Eliash Eliash. The seasoned veteran for sure is one hundred and sixty seconds career playoff game face off to the right of Roger. Are the Kings win. The draw the puck out to really Mitchell throws it in down low. It's blocked by Zubrus not cleared and a second chance. The devils will get it to center. Ice Join Awful Hammer at back in goes off a stick Sikora's and outta place so a face off in the neutral zone and both coaches trying to get as many players players on the ice here early. Get the legs on get a little bit of body contact. Get those jitters away. I think both teams when you look leading up into this game. You had a lot of time to think in the afternoon. The news about what's going to happen. I think once you get through a shift or to you take some contact. Get a shot. All of a sudden it disappears and game takes over Gionta with Ryan Carter Charter and during a richards line stays out off the draw Martinez will hammered android. Replace it behind. The net into the corner picked up by Salvador. He outlets to Ryan Carter daughter is pass at center ice to Gionta Gionta bump it got the puck down into the Kings fan quick out beating Martinez across on right-wing picked up a by Carter Carter Richards in the air. The puck deflected down the ice by richards. While Chekov fired off a linesman. Got It back on left wing and now against games the red line and flips it in behind the kings kings moving right to left offensively opening period scoreless Martinez cross is trevor Lewis speeds into pizzonia. The circle a shot off his stick and wide on the left wing boards. Dwight King King for Lewis to the Neta shot blocked never got through stole chasing down own. Got It to king back to the Blue Dowdy with a shot wide. Scott Perry left side good area. Centering Pass tipped save is made Stola got a piece of Roy dirt dirt track that and the devils look down good play thereby scary going down the left side boards. Just put the Puck at the net and jared stoll job to the top of the crease he redirected get up. And I believe the goaltender broder tonight. Chance things on our show and big hit by Brown fuck to the Bull nine-point off shots a rebound bounces at the left circle round around spins. A shot is blocked. Gillette's away with it for the devils. backhands it through CETERA. Down the ice what Race Clarkson. And Mitchell. Mitchell tied up like Clarkson Komo Mitchell gets held down low from Brown and Co Petar. The puck to Voinov going off good and clearer held in by Henry. Sends it in down low Mitchell again. Then we'll try. It treats it off the wall and Co Petar Away with. It can't clear upheld in by New Jersey Fed back down low by Volchkov. TOBITA are now impedes. It gets it back. Go Petar to the devils line. Throw petard a the circle centers in front the passes blocked he tried to get it to Williams and then Petar tripped up. Cooking will be on New Jersey. The great individual effort thereby Andrzej copay Tar. He miscued with the PUCK and his own zone once. What's he got it back in the neutral zone? He did a good job and attacking the death defense. Volkov he latches on the Cooper tires coporate beat him to the inside with the kids have to have more up trump Kotaro with his size his strength and power. If he doesn't get through he's GonNa drop penalises he'd get right there the Pen Leon Ball checkoff offer hooking at three zero one scoreless first period kings powerplay three of eleven here on the final stole. Penner Carter out off. The draw doubted doughty with it. Power play kings dowdy in the middle up by doughty off the Carter Carter with a shot blocked and the puck deflects down the Ice Dowdy back for tied up by Parisi. And now offside called on the devils as Parisi put himself offsides with his up. Ice Pressure on drew doughty breath on the kings have gotta make sure even went around the power play. You're the New Jersey devils very aggressive on the penalty kill fifteen short handed goals atlas tops in the NHL this year. It got some great skaters upfront. So you've got to make sure that you get that. Pass those guys because they block it and it goes behind you with the speed that they have. You're going to get themselves a good chance. Devils only one short ended Dole in the playoffs kings on a power play. Devil's dump it in kings moving right to left offensively. Mike Richards the center ice cutting his right feeds it off on right wing stole of the line. I shot save is made by Broder stole with a look from a right circle and the devils up. His PUTT and Zubrus will claire. Not Not a bad look for Jarret. Stoll the unfortunate thing was there was nobody driving off the left side. If there's somebody coming into that lane that'll distract the goaltender because then broader has got to be watching for the threat of a pass. The power play continuous. Doughty over the line. But Offside Justin Williams has Williams jumped in ahead of doubt who carried the button into the attacking zone. The kings have been able to filter their way through the neutral zone. Want men shot on goal with the man advantage here so they've been able to get to the offensive blue light wispy. The guy carried a fuck up the middle of the the ice is trying to pets for the devils which feet coming down the other side that allow the kids to be able to penetrate and get the puck into the zone with possession of Williams jumps the gun again here as He moved before the puck was dropped another reset and do it again copay Tar Brown Williams Mitchell going off now out power-play as a minute six left scoreless first period here in game six staple center the venue kings win tonight and they win their first first ever Stanley Cup Championship. Now Brown on the draw one by ZAJAC but deepen the devil zone Salvador rooms it around the boards knocked down by Kobe. Target cleared by Jayanta William Mitchell. Back for the PUCK. He's pressured by ZAJAC. Mitchell moves behind behind his own net. Fended off the wall. Voinov now for Copa Charta Voinov and for Williams at center ice for the devils line Williams are shot off his stick and out of the play. Shit Lipsky you gotta stick on that. Williams attempt from the High Slot on the Jersey has done a great job with gap control when the Kings have been trying to get the puck. Suit of the net in New Jersey is not allowing the kings very much room. They're staying uptight and what allows them to do. That is with the pressure coming from inside. You don't have the threat of the king's moving laterally and you know that through layers they're going to have to go through somebody else in order to get to the net. That's a lower. Get Sticks and bodies in late gangs forty four seconds left on Bud light power play. Doubles doubles won. The draw and Andy Green will slap it all the way down on goal. Quick will stop it and picked up by Doughty doughty with room out of his own feeds it on left-wing going off with a pill dump it in broder out to play it to his right knocked down by Brom that he couldn't control. Eliash does through center. Ice shorthanded feeds. It left circle shot. Not Save is made by quicken. The bid by Zubrus shorthanded bid by dinosaurs. Elliara shot from the left wing. Boards kicked out by quick round the other way ten on seconds on the power play ground. The devils line is checked. And here's Zubrus. The other way to center gains the red line will flip it down the devils of killed the penalty. A quick beating Voinov scoreless first period for stole stole center. Ice Stole on right-wing got upended. Dwight King carries it down. Low the rookie rookie. Dwight King in the corner out to Doughty doughty left side and Mitchell Mitchell with a wrist shot punches on save rebound in front cleared away by Parisi Lifts flips it out to center ice while a play there by Mitchell and innocent play not a hard shot. Dwight King may have got a piece of it as the puck bounce goaltender and Brodeur was able to just put it past the four checker. There prevented him getting rebound turnover. King Cobra Chuck Right wing into the zone with a shot and that's deflected wide. Here's Colin Fraser. Behind his net breeds off for Dwight King King Wednesday board battle and got the puck out to center ice now a loose puck and the king zone Henrik couldn't get a shot left wing side ponca rocky. A chance to fluctuated over the crossbar and the kings clear ball. CHECKOFF will hammer at back. In and Willie Mitchell takes over appraiser Outta Simone Gonyea gonyea checked at the kings line got the puck out giant hammers at right like bank. In and as the Devil's plan left wing boards delayed offside and there was contact along the boards there on Ryan Carter by Matt Green Lean. But Offside New Jersey. We'll take a timeout thirteen. Forty five left opening period game six no score kings devils. You're listening to the Stanley Cup. Playoffs playoffs on the Kings Radio Network. Thirteen forty-five left opening period. No score the shots even at three apiece kings. He's failing on a power play chance Earlier and we'll get a face off at center. Ice Fraser Jordan Nolan Simone. GONYEA fourth line for the king's out against the fourth line for the devils GIONTA burn. Yeah and Ryan Carter Kings control the draw Martinez across the mad green fires. It up the wall and off up Nolan stick down the ICE. They wave off the icing back for. It is Gionta behind his net reverses at around Ryan Carter with a past burn. Yeah he turned over. Held by Ganja is passed aloe blocked and cleared by the devils kings takeover Ganja feeding back for Mag Green to Martinez up the left wing to the red line. He'll hammered in wide brodeur. They change on the Golf Checkoff for the devils takes over. Stretch Pass on right wing Bernie bumped by Martinez Artigas and Bernier shoots it in quick teeing up for Voinov when all pressured by Eliash quick shot from the left wing board save is made Sikora let that go is going off. I've got pressured now. Sikora in the right wing corner battling with Martinez Sikora leaving for Zubrus pushes it behind the net. Nobody there for New Jersey. Boyne off up with it. Awful clear it through center ice and down into the New Jersey end fame back for his past knockdown held in Richards to the net shot block devils. Continue to block a lot of shots Zubrus. left-wing cutting to the right feeds. It left circle the pass broken up. Zuber's got it back. Zubrus I bumped by Penner. Got It in down low in the corner Sikora for Zubrus behind wrapped up by Mike Richards. Zubrus fights off the check brings it to the left circle. Threw it behind the net. Eliash eliash dumps it out. Left point shot from their tip. Just why Cora shot by Andy Green. Now centering centering pass by Sikora cleared away from the slot by the kings and Dustin Penner to the red line in pen and we'll get down in the kings will change up the chances part of that Richards. Getting the Fuck Vickie held on just a split second too long waiting for teammate. To get to the net before he got the puck there I think if he puts the puck there. Then that'll encourage those guys to go. After the rebound doughty's Alad Pass. Goes all the way down. The Ice Brodeur stretches it out on right wing. Acropolis truck tipped it into the kings and scoreless first period doughty's past block dowdy again with it. Sends it behind the net force Gary Scott Perry for Copa Tar and now to Brown to center Ice Brown to the devils line to Williams but the play broken up right as brown the Blue Line. An offside go the Kings while defensively the devils had a great setup there the kings to players on the rush Viet they had speed. But because. How's the devils? Outnumbered them not allowed the defense to be able to stand up and be very aggressive not allowing the king's entry into the zone. Eleven twenty nine left first period zero zero year. Old Shots are three apiece kings of add the only power play in the game and you won't J. Cope Atar eighth goals. Nineteen points out on the face soft leads the team in scoring in the playoffs. Wins the draw. Mad Green will hammer it in Roederer behind his net turned it over Williams with the wraparound save rebound Williams uh-huh block or he found on it. Now Copa Turn the near boards gathered out to Martinez Martinez risks. It down. Low the puck winds up behind the net Williams looking to get a brown on that pass. Broken up into lender flip it high in the air held him by Williams without a stick. Kicks it to the net save is made rebound co Petar. Kobe Tar and the right wing corner. The Tar for Williams Williams pokes it behind the net ground chasing devils. Get their giblets. Plays it off the wall. The Kobe Tar got two two Brown who centre enter the past broken up in Fraud Williams. Good and get a stick on it the other way New Jersey. Sonic arrives heater. The Red Line will dump it down low back for it mad green got into Trevor Louis Louis across the king left wing to the devils line. Shot kicked out by Brodeur King throat at the net from the left wing boards. King Stole and Lois Out for the Kings. A battle for the PUCK Lewis top up circle a shot wide while falling right circle stole shot blocked stole. We'll get back behind the net stole centers. The past block loose puck side of the net away by the devils Bernie tied up by Lewis Andy Green for for the doubles now for who carries to center ice gains the Red Line flips. It down. Pala kings have been very aggressive here last few minutes. Jersey's doing a good job or weathering the storm for now Scott got knocked down behind the king's net penalty to New Jersey. Delayed Cau- Penner into the zone on left-wing tenor tied up by Volchkov off. We get a whistle and scary down on the ice behind the king's net to our right now. I don't know if it was a high stick or not but I think he's blading. Steve Bernier was the player that ended up making contact whisk Jerry. He'll be going to the penalty box. Do doughty had a couple of words for him but Bernie L.. Go to the box. Not your whether it'd be weak-minded or a double minor or maybe a major. He hit him hard into the glass. Bernier the referee put the arm up up right away for a penalty and Scott Perry cut on the play and shaken up still on the ice. We'll take a timeout scoreless. First period kings and devils was game six. The kings lead three games to two. You're listening to the Stanley Cup. Playoffs on the Kings Radio Network Steve Byrne a bumping Scott Curry's head into the glass behind the king's net. Dairy injured bleeding help taw skated off under his own. Power Bernie Goetz five minutes for boarding and had a game. Misconduct penalty at ten ten here. In the first period. Zero zero is the score. So the Kings on I five minute major major power play and if they score a goal they still have the power play it has to be served in its entirety quite a bit blood on the ice behind the net daryl worst dairy got hit and usually if he gets bumped on your nose or at your nose and the boards or glass. That's where a lot of the bleeding comes from but we won't speculate but scary seem to shake it off and I guess they can stop the bleeding. He might be back when you look at attitude the minute he was hit when his head came off the glass there was already blood that was hitting the ice. which would lead me to play? The doubt initiated from his nose. He's made his way down. uh-huh down the hallway there towards the Kings Locker Room. So we'll give you an update as it goes where we come back to the bench so the kings with a fabulous opportunity to start the scoring the team. That has scored I in every game has won that game here in these Stanley Cup final. The king scored I in Games one one through three up three games than on the devil scored I in the last two games to fall to a three two deficit Bernie five per boarding game misconduct at turn. Ten kings the way to approach this and they've got to have a shot mentality. You don't want to sit there and look at the house. Five minutes to work around yet. The puck to the the nets make the goaltender makes them safe yet. The penalty killers moving the penalty killers for New Jersey. They do a good job of keeping their structure. Allow you to move it around the perimeters kings win the draw setup. The power play Richards right point across on left-wing Williams to the Circus Williams Holding Williams at the goal line Brown spins couldn't get a shot loose puck high high slot dowdy a shot. Save rebound clear to the Blue Line out the center ice by the devils doughty had a good look from between the circles kings. On a major ager power play first period scoreless doughty up the Middle Dowdy over the line. doughty check. PUTT paled in Copa Charter Williams. Right side up high to Richard Richards dishes off left side Doughty doughty spinning holding outside the Left Circle still would doughty in traffic. Got To richards with a shot just wide now brown in the right corner to the Circle Brown out to COPA tired or richards. Touch pass to doughty. Doughty shot dips go Dustin Brown v Shot from about five at the top of the crease and the Kim's kings score early on the major power play and they're up in game six one nothing. I'll Dustin Brown started book on the opposite side of the ice getting back to the point and then he drove right into the slot. Area drew docherty getting it off the umbrella. He Hits Dustin Brown right right between the Hash marks a nice little direction by Brown and the Kings the power play lead dowdy wristed it towards the net and Brown tipped it right right between the pads of Brodeur the power play goal at eleven three kings till will demand advantage Dwight Cain with it at the devils line slap it in down low power play time left just under four minutes walk out of the Blue Line Willie Mitchell right side for point off Voinov line off sends it in download stole rims around for Jeff Carter Carter outside left circle turned the puck over. Elliott will clear it down three thirty left on the power play one nothing kings here in the first period staples slava point off off for Williams to the doubles line. Feeds it down low right corner. copay tar lost the PUCK Jayanta with it. Fires it off the boards and passed Nov down the ice quick out fires around the glass. KNOCK DOWN BY COPA. Taro sweeps it behind his net on the right wing side for Roy off and announce Williams Williams and traffic Williams for Willie Mitchell. Mitchell ahead for Coal Petar power-play Kings Petar devils line to ground moves down. Low feeds it cross ice held in doughty left side Martinez now for Brown Lab Circle Brown a shot blocked and the cleared by the devils Henry to forty left on the major power. Play Brown's power play goal at eleven three as the Kings in front Martinez over the line. Got It in deep will chase it down with Henry Contender Richards there as well. Richards the Brown Brown holding skin from slot. Put it in the upper right corner brook door. Mayo Basit Dustin Brown with two power play goals on the major penalty to burn. Yeah in the kings are up to nothing. Therein gained six while a great play again. Dan vibe Richard Campbell. He was able to pick up the PUCK along the boards. He gets it to round who filtered into the slot area and deters the corner a little bit of traffic confront he throws it gloveside upstairs and kings are up to nothing. Dustin Brown now with nine goals in the playoffs his first two goals in ten games career. come the Kings Martinez over the line. Shot goes off pain. Stick and out of play. The kings first goal out eleven even all three Dustin Brown from drew doughty and Mike Richards grounds second goal at twelve forty five night. The Playoffs Primary Assist Richards and Alec Martinez will draw an assist as well kings win the draw. They still have time on the major sure powerplay to nothing kings here at Staples Gonyea left circle in deep Richard behind the net richards. Holding into the right corner. Richard speed tonight a pie. Hi It's blocked and cleared by the devils two minutes to go on the power play drew doughty behind his own net. Living at four Mike Richards Richards check got it ahead to King White King. The rookie couldn't shoot in Mitchell and the kings will reset. They've made changes a minute. Forty on the power play drew doughty. Jarret stoll stole wines. I shot say by Broder rebound in the corner tip behind the net dependent Benner and a battle with Dwight Kane. Kane wins the battle. Got It out to join off. But he couldn't hold it in kings at center Ice Willie Mitchell across the slava. Voinov up going off taking a look the devils make changes and then at ten on the power play going off ahead for stole turns light at center ice and feeds across the Mitchell. Chill now Willie Mitchell inside his line pressured a little bit by Eliash got it to Voinov boy off holding on going off. Walk down low pressured get rid of it. Slava Voinov finally on right wing go Williams skating her own into the zone right circle stops up hurls else. Hit Hard puck held him dowdy. Diz Pass Block tipped in the Slot Brown couldn't reach devils. Play it out to centers as Jack with a shot dribbles in on quick and quick will cover up to get a whistle with thirty seven seconds left on a major to burn the kings APP score twice on the major power play. Dustin Brown two goals in a span of a minute forty two when the kids are up to nothing while Dustin Brown who had been off the goal sheet for the last nine games he responds in a real positive way. The captain of the Hockey Club to power play goals here has his team leading by a couple. Incomplete control with five twenty six left here in the first row. Now leads all goal score is in the postseason with his two goals tonight. He has nine one more then Copa Tar and Cobo Chuck and a couple of others. Who aren't playing any more in the playoffs off the draw? The king's win it stole the Draw Martinez with thirty seconds on the power play. Four doughty doughty right up the middle doughty a pass ahead broken up intended for Louis. Here comes coble. Chuck the other way to the kings line. Stops up check by stole and the Kings will take over. Here's Doughty to the center. Ice Dowdy to King left-wing Bulls is way down low to the net king couldn't get a shot third power play goal on this major earth mentally trouble lois knocks home. The rebound up Dwight kings opportunity and here in the first period. The king's are now up three so nothing a hell of a white tank as he just talked to mock inside on the defense and he went he went to retrieve and take to the net himself. He wasn't able to get much on it. It goes off the end of the stick off roader and right there. Trevor Lewis got it behind the defender the jammed into the net for the third power. Play goal on this major penalty. Remember back when the Kings played the blues lose what fifteen years ago when the blues had a major power play I do. They scored four times on that major major power. Play to Sean O'Donnell things have three power. Play goals here on the major to burn a play underway. Ponta corrupts the kings line. Shot blocked DOC. What can the air shot wide by Sikora from the High Slot Penner outlets come to center ice carried in off side by two lender rolling? All the devils are at full strength but the damage has been done. Three power play goals brown a pair and Trevor Lewis with one three nothing kings four thirty five left first period here at staples will take time out. You're listening to the Stanley Cup Playoffs on the Kings radio network three to nothing. The kings laid here in game six three goals in four minutes three goals on one penalty Bernie the five minute major are for boarding Brown and Brown and then Louis playback underway or the puck inside the Kings. Why Matt Green Check from behind to lenders point shot block picked up by MAG? Rain carries it behind his net. He's check a battle download. Copa Tara's there but controlled Ryan Carter feeds it up. High to Lindor shot wlac picked up by Williams Williams ahead to Brown for Copa Todd through center ice into the zone. Petar draws a crowd dumps it in their Corner Williams chasing Williamsburg Brown behind the net brown. Pizza'd out Piper William Mitchell Mitchell with a shot clock and Brown picked it up again Dan how to Mitchell Mitchell down low through it behind the net on the loose puck is till lender to lender. Now don't sit back behind his own. Net Anjit Jillette ski will take over and back to lane dirt stretch pass on left wing Ryan Carter tied up by stole they battle between the ventures three thirty already left in the period and they phrase the puck three nothing kings the trouble. Lowest goal at fifteen. Oh three from King and Doughty doughty has assisted on two of the three goals. As has Mike Richards I just a great move thereby dwight can come in and opt out left wing position. Just moving into the middle of the Ice Martin Brodeur. I'm sure probably looking back. He would like to a claim that puck plane. He was unable to do so credit. Trevor Lewis he was able to get position position in behind the defender finals pocket. Put it across a line. Three nothing kings there in the first period of game. Six kings win tonight. They win a Stanley Cup championship off. The draw doughty will hammer it in stole with a bump on Salvador but the devils are able to clear the zone kings moving right till after offensively in the period Lewis for stole all gains the red line. And we'll get it in deep dwight king on the left wing boards on the puck through it toward the net balances broader couldn't find it and he finally did as it. It bounced in his goal crease. After was in the Air Brodeur looking over his shoulder talking to the referee boy. He did not see that until it bounced right in front of him. You can even tell the reaction to the two players that make contact on the near side board. That puck went up in the air and probably with the dark crowd in behind. You lost it. I was very fortunate dog races. Lert as he was after the balancing devil of gravity three. Nothing kings kings win the draw. Martinez we'll send the puck down. Low Dustin Penner on the right wing corner feeds the slot the pass broken up and to flex down into the kings end. Quick out. He'll tear it up from our Tina's Martinez pressure turned it over. Quick shot by Eliash plot never got through. And now here's Dustin Penner men are up the left wing gains the right line interested in. Jeff Carter on sweeps behind the net out of the reach of Richard's hand the devils play it out to center. Willie Mitchell fired right back. In two thirty laptop opening period three power play goals for the Kings in the first period Dustin Brown with a pair and Trevor Ever Lewis with one long stretch pass eludes. Everybody goes down the ice and quick will cover up a face off kings. The kings are brought to you by. FSN End joined the kingdom all season long on Fox sports west by the Home Depot. More saving more doing. That's the power of the Home Depot and buy staples that was easy for the Kings right now to keep their focus got a three-goal lead. New Jersey hasn't had a lot of opportunities in the offensive zone of the four shots that they have APP. Three of them have come shorthanded. Case have to take away the time and space and look to close out his career with at least with their three goal. Lead off the draw Henryk on the boards. Ripon Kharafi sends is it behind the net Clarkson bodied by off. Henry feeds it out to the blue line to lender handcuffed. Lost the PUCK. Here's Brown the other way Brown for Williams Williams threw it off off the glass gets it back turns and shot and it just why now ponca wraps up a left-wing we'll flip it into the king's own under two minutes to play opening period here at staples staples kings leading three to nothing Mitchell for Matt Green and across on point for Dwight King King couldn't play it off the boards and the devils can't Work it down low and the king zone king and checkoff battling at the Kings Line now devils finally worked at behind the net mad Grand Willie Mitchell ritual. Mitchell sends it up the wall king got knocked down by all checkoff and the PUCK. GOES DOWN THE ICE Roger out to play the PUCK for Salvador to Ryan Carter now for Kobo Chuck to the Kings Line. Cobo Chuck a shot wide of quick fifty foot bid their kings get the puck up the wall. Jeff Carter and a battle. Carter is able to clear it out to center richards. After Richards poked it passed the defense and it got upended turnover devils charter a shot in the slot. Save his. Hey Carter with a good luck on the turnover by New Jersey under a minute to play Andy Green on left-wing to the kings line fans on a pass going off battling battling along the boards with Andy. Green Richards is there to help out puck work behind the net to Sikora Sikora looking centers in shot hit the crossbar. Doc Elliott shut the crossbar and pinner. Leclair down that's a huge break there for the kings that would have been a big lift for the New Jersey devils thirty seconds left burs Chris Bury at three nine kings era staples Copa Tars. Line back out devils. Get the PUCK to coble. Chuck Turns Wide Insiders Lines stretch past his ZAJAC. There is it down the Ice Williams back for the puck centered around and Willie Mitchell. Mitchell flipped it off the wall and held in by jillette steep pinching inching. Now Matt Green with it green will flip it through center down. Is that'll do it for the first period but what a first period three power play goals on the same penalty for the kings pair for Dustin Brown one for Trevor Lois and after one period Aaron Game Six the kings are up three. Nothing while you look at the way the kings came out right off the bat. There were very aggressive. They took the game to the New Jersey devils unfortunately for the penalty only for the devils. That's a tough call but it's one. The referee has to make a vulnerable position was the Rob Scott. Perry he got hit up high and the head. There's blood on the the ice resulted in a major penalty and that really changed the whole complexion to the period credit to kings. They were able to take advantage of Dustin Brown who hadn't scored nine games. He took charge charged. He made himself very noticeable outstanding play by drew doughty with the past shot to the slot. Area that led to the game first goal and then Dustin Brown made a great shot on a nice feet from the Carter are party from Richards and then a huge goal that third one given a kings that much more separation and also from guys that don't normally play the power play Trevor Lewis teaming up with Dwight king that's the type of contribution you have to have in order to succeed Big break for the king's Elliott shot off the post at the end of the period Darryl. SNL has got to get his team. Refocus it's only twenty minutes in the book you know New Jersey is gonNA come out. There are going to be aggressive. May Gamble a little bit more. This is where the kings have to stay in their structure and make sure that they don't take any penalties in that first period. The kings out shot the devils thirteen. Four Brown's goal at Eleven O. The three started the scoring from Dowdy and Richards. And then a minute forty two later Brown again at twelve forty five from Richards and Martinez and at fifteen eighteen. o three is second of the playoffs from King and Dowdy three goals in four minutes and the kings are up three nothing after twenty minutes. Let's hear in game six of the Stanley Cup final between periods one and two here at Staples Center the Kings three New Jersey. Nothing you're listening to the Stanley Cup Playoffs and the Kings Radio Network.

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