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Talk Radio - NFL Playoffs Conference Round

The Sports Comedy Show

28:02 min | 3 months ago

Talk Radio - NFL Playoffs Conference Round

"While the sports comedy show on. Paul salerno the creative on host of the show. This is another edition of tot radio. Today is friday january twenty seventh year. It's finally friday. Is everybody working for the weekend. Because it's almost here big round in. Nfl playoffs conference round. Meaning there's only two games left before we make it to the superbowl. The is all on talk radio. All right everybody's going to develop because too big games buffalo. Kansas city and we also have new tampa bay rabea. Let's get ready to go. Okay that you loverboy with working for the weekend because it's been a long week for many of us in the now we're finally made it to the conference ram preview the conference round. I will also have a five star. Pick for you at the end of the show remember. I'm one in one in the playoffs. The star of the five star eleven in seven overall. My memory serves me correctly which i think So we'll have that at the end of the show now franson for. There is so sad news around this. Been taking the sports world by storm this morning and actually all of the the media world and that is unfortunately hey erin. At the age of eighty six died. Everybody knows on is the is the baseball home run king. He had seven hundred fifty. Five home runs. Led the majors in home runs until barry bonds came along finally and in and finally have more than him question. They argued berry. Who's himself up. We're not gonna go there in this episode at least So hank aaron on seven hundred fifty five. He was over forty four. It was on the braves milwaukee braves in the event of race. He was more than just a home. Run king afterwards. He was a part of the movement that that helped lacks get into the major leagues. Once he went off the failed he. His accomplishments kept going. He was able to to be honored by those in politics in. It was just incredible person. The incredible life incredible story it all comes tune in and today at the age of eighty. Says i am going to mention. Is we always hear how stars go in three. Well we did help. We did lose three big names in baseball as of recently so i kind of connected the dots. I don't think you're gonna catch that on any other show but because here on the sports comedy i find these cyclopes and even though this isn't a comical still were mentioning showing the baseball community within the last month. Three big names down. Tommy lasorda don setting in now hang garin. Those are the three big names in those are big names. The one i loved the most was tommy lasorda. He truly was the heart and soul of the city in la. Don sutton huge dodger pitcher and he was one of the big names in the Late seventies early eighties. Don sutton burt hooton. They got those guys over the top so it was sad to see jon saturn girl now. Let's say they were up and having to be with them so three big names in baseball. Hopefully there won't be any more. Three-set has been done kind of a sad day but worth measuring hank aaron. What are the greatest home. Where i was the greatest warranting seven hundred and fifty. Five home runs does need to be six. Okay let's move on. As i mentioned we got two big games. This conference round so today are themes can be the nfl conference round. I'm going to talk about both of these. Gangs and We're gonna i gotta five-star pick for you so there were also some other news that came out this during the week here to football related news now some football in down. At least it wasn't a that it is still sad news and that is because old man talking about. Oh man rivers turns out old. Man river's for indiana's hang it up all man rivets you must know something. Don't say nothing. Well i think knows it. It's time in. That's what he said. It's just time old man river soon. Be forgotten you know. It'll be interesting to see if philip rivers makes the hall of fame. I truly hope he does i. He's having career worthy of the hall of fame. The big bombers he never or won a super bowl in that is one of the things they look at sadly we live in a loss world. And when you look back if you haven't won the championship it's easy to be forgotten. So all bela's be forgotten. I hope not seventeen years. Most of them sandiego an incredible career but he came out this week and said that it is time to hanging up. And if you're listening to the show regularly oppressed give yourself amendment clause show regular anything. I want to thank you for that back more. Prone to thank me for doing the show. But now as i was saying if you listen to the show during the season when the colts were were Claiming they had a damn that year. I kept saying it's only a matter of time. Before philip rivers the arm gets out and he's gotta throw the sidearms. He's got sing inside on his. You can't lift his arm over. Shoulder had never happened this season in weekend. Get a week out the cultural alba team. I believe there are eleven five year. Mary says regret and i kept thinking. Well the old man reverend's is simulated you to see why he's a little man river but he had a good year and the colts the real story. There was the cold had a running game so it didn't put all the pressure on him to throw it so he had really an incredible year. He lost in the first round the playoffs there to the bills. That was kind of a bummer. But he took some time. We thought it over. React to the loss in. He made a real simple. He said it's rivers is time to quit. So i quit. They're going forward. Will he be really making into all fame. If i'm on the board he gets my vote of yes. Where did you guys think. Philip rivers belongs in the holiday. Now if you have a point two adds that dopey afraid to send me an email at the sports comedy show at gmail.com. I'd love your in your store even make it on the air okay. Now that we've done that let's get to our two games. Got too big games. We've we've got all season seventeen weeks of regular season the second season two weeks. Now this we finally come down to the final four to make it to the nfl conference row gangs or the in the nfc you will have tampa bay buccaneers at green bay packers in the afc buffalo bills act kansas city chiefs the showdown has been met four. Incredible quarterback's probably the four best quarterbacks of the year maybe the mark acts in an old man. River's my contest that but nonetheless. Four great quarterbacks nfc. Tom brady verse aaron rodgers. Afc patrick mahomes versus josh allen. It is worth mentioning. Three of the four of these quarterbacks have already one super bowl so they got the experience factor of getting to the big dance and winning the begins. I'm the one who hasn't this josh allen. So he's got up hill battle. He's got to go into our on k. Had to sit and do that. So let's break down these scans and have some fun with the conference round of the nfl. Let's go ahead and start without buffalo game. Even though it was the second game of the day you know what that's the septum. Let's do the first game. How does that sound. Nfc ran Tampa bay at green bay. And as i've been saying for going to talk about green bay rebate packers at the nothing but they pulled all season can install base question. Tampa bay is gonna bring tom brady and the brady bunch pakis. Keeping dogs rolling chop off the bus off time doing iran learn. That's the big question. Care the pact keep roller cut him up kidding. They move them in. Kindy key finding the end zone. The way they have packers have had incredible season. Aaron rodgers incredible season. So what are we have the because as i mentioned. It's tom brady. You saw what they did last week. Drew braids. they brought him into the end But now it only gets harder for both these teams as the face each other. So this is what i think. This is where where my two cents on it and i've been listening to all the analysts all week in the mall have valid points in some lingering bay some lean tampa bay there is no clear easy pickier. Green bay is the favorite through like a three point. Favor small favored. Who knows if that comes into play as well so this isn't going to be an easy match but this is what i think if things are going to happen here for green bay will we know we know that aaron rodgers alcides made it look easy to go downtown in. Find davante adams if not. He's got great backup. If it's not the bump vail it's gonna be either allen lazard or maybe even marquez valdes scantling so he's got to throwing game in these good frontline. The gives him time so the question is going to be is the run game. Can he keep the running game glowing because when they run then that gives them time to open up in go. Down failed in that. Keeps tampa's defense off on off so it's getting a lot. It's gonna rely on aaron jones on the running game. He doesn't to have a huge game but he does have to get at least fifty or sixty yards and also the other key here is gonna be jamaal williams if he jim this way in the reason i say that is jamal willing to the second running back. You really need to have two running backs to have a good quality gate if you just be all on one running back at some point using the second half fatigue comes in and it keeps the defense focus on one player. When you've got a second running back coming in if you put them into the same time then that kind of opens up the running game now when you think of rebate you don't think the running game but it is a balanced offense in that running game makes things or lousy to happen for the passing game. So what i look at this game is going to be green. Bay's of rain game if green bay can have a successful running game. I think they'll give the best of the butts. I really do now. Let's go on the other side of the ball and look at Tampa bay and tom brady talk and tom brady. And you're gonna be talking about the brady bunch on the brady bunch is comedy green bay and they're coming in full force in the biggest story here on offense is going to be there running because for one of the few times this year. We saw last week. Ronald jones and letter from that are both healthy. And that's the big story because that gives a clear covering game and they're gonna need that to their running game because we may has a good defense remain have good defense pass rush which is kicking them in the games all year long so tom brady months doing. Okay thank you that so the brady bunch is coming. We've talked about that but we're going to talk about is is all the weapons that he has on the brady bunch and it's a lot of them. It really is a lot of them. So as i mentioned two running backs are are healthy jones frenette. They're both going to be playing. That's gonna give tom brady. Some some running game With you with overseas on the throwing game. So the main receiver is gonna be. Mike evans and i believe not rob gronkowski. I believe it's going to be more of a scotty. Miller or chris goodwin guns in these. Are these people. The tom will use. Scotty miller in chris godwin. You won't go to regularly. But when he connects with them he'll stay focused. So i look for a game out of these boys now. You might. what about broadcasting. I came across something two weeks ago. when the when the bucks played the bears the bears were known for their great pass defense and we didn't see much out of rob gronkowski on that day and that's because they had a good plan in would not be surprised if you see that same plant again. This week. they use gronkowski truly as an extra blocker in the backfield and that gig. Tom brady time to do things. I would not be surprised if you see that again today. So you might not see gronkowski declawing gal filth looking for the big player or even the third and short i think they made use him as a blocker in the backfield just because they have so many darn weapons. So if that's the case then. Look for cameron. Break to be the go-to guy on third and shorts question. I guess antonio brown with they're saying he's questionable. I think he'll be in but only have made it clear that he's questionable again another weapon. So you got you got brown miller goodwin godwin break evans. You got five or six throwables in you can use. The gronk is a as a blocker. And then you got the running game jones cornet. That's a hell brady bunch. You know i mean you could put these guys all back on channel seven friday night prime time. That's how they are. And i know rob gronkowski me even wrestling well. He stepped back out of wrestling. And he's into the big leagues so incredible. Lots there but rebates got really good defense and they're going to need to step up they're going to need to do some plays they're giving need to keep tone off-balance possible for him to to to be able to keep them off balance to get into rhythm to do. The butts have the ability to put the points on the board the once earlier in the year. The butts did win the game. A lot of people are referencing. That i'm not gonna go there. I did catch another report. That i thought was interesting in. That was a lot of times. It comes down to mistakes and whoever makes mistakes very well could be the difference in this game you saw last week. Drew brees with three interceptions cost him the game. Tom has been pretty good as of late. He hasn't been making mistakes. Aaron rodgers has made very few mistakes all year. I believe you only has five substance on the year. Which is pretty incredible. But i think at some point. You wanted to something to give in this matchup between brady vs up aaron rodgers. So i wouldn't be surprised if some mistakes so keep an eye on that if turnovers if you start to see two or three turnovers on one side probably going to be the difference in that makes it hard to make the prediction but now that give me everything thing that i got on this game. I predicted is is going to be green. Big green bay is made it look easy all year and again it's the tragedy system frontlines. That are strong. The buccaneers defense is good. And they'll be able to keep up with with Green bay not for four three quarters and all it takes is one or two big plays with rebates to find devante davante adams or allah czar. Even scantling junior. I think that's what's gonna happen. I think there are prone to break free in. Make those big plays in the middle of the game which means they're talk town Tom brady dot. They're gonna be forced to do that late in the game to play catch up and that's when the mistakes might start to happen so i like the panthers in this one. I just think that they're simply the better team is good is tampa. Bay's carl in even with their double dole running back in the backfield. I like rebate stanford ticket and go to the super bowl. Okay so let's go over to the asc because we have an incredible match up there are the afc so the afc. We've got buffalo glowing to kansas city. Had a size this world. I'm everybody you know. Kansas city kansas city. I guess we'll start with them in. Yes last week Past mojo's took a hit in the head. He looks like he's gonna play. He's doing through all concussion. Protocol and He's doing it successfully. I guess the biggest question. In which i can't answer which nobody can answer to what happens is if he gets hit again in takes another dinner on the net and if he does in especially if it happens in the first half i do believe that that will be game set match for the chiefs. I like chat heady needs. You know i'll be honest chat. He's got a lot of balls. He came out strong last week. He threw the ball. He didn't sit back. And just you know wiltshire he. He made clear the. Hey i'm going to step up and do back in the. He ran the ball and he threw the ball. But if we get to that point if they get a thinking mahomes again in they take him out. I think that'll be the end of the road for kansas city. Asked that happening now. And i don't want. I hope not. I don't wanna see a game. You know be lost on an injury. I think mahomes will be happy. Perry he's got he's got a problem with one of the tells. I don't know that plays into the. Kansas city is got all the offense. So here's my thought. I've listened to all the everybody's analysis is gonna be the matchup here of tyreek hill on got the speed burning. Receiver in buffalo is gonna put their Their fast boy on 'em they're gonna put a To vet various white incredibly. Quick cornerback on him. So will they be able to keep tyreek hill under check. That's awfully hard because he is the fastest scorpius receiver in football. So i don't even with the white on them. I don't know if they can keep them in check certainly not for four quarters i think their their offense outshines buffalo's defense which isn't bad. They did put a number on ravens last rape. But i think that was truly lamar jackson issue. Not on the the buffalo defense at him their other points were making that you haven't heard too much of this week by the big nassar's i am gonna making. This is why i kinda lead to kansas city. On this game is clyde edwards. Hilarie is going to be back. Sammy watkins is going to be back and One of their defensive. I can't remember one of there was a Linebackers look room. It doesn't stick out is going to be bat. You've got three big names back. The biggest one is going to be clyde edwards. Lari karna opens these on the running game And put all the pressure on the val to run and the past mahomes they're saying is. kansas city. Wants walk patrick to run crazy because of the the concussion so look for edwards large to run the ball. I looked for the offense to open up and run. We know it's going to happen. If they can't find tiring cal. They got trouser castle. He is the best tight end in the game. And sometimes i don't know sammy. Watkins factors into it. At least she's oppressed body and if he does make a couple but he he's just been on the decline the last two years. He's not sammy watkins. He was two or three years ago but he is going to be back now. Let's look at the other side of the ball because yes we. We all know the story there. It is going to be josh allen. And he's got stephan digs east getting need to do more of the stuffing digs. He's gonna have to find cole. Beasley is gonna have to long. He's gonna have to to keep them off balance The bummer in against buffalo is on the running game zack. Moss is done for the year. So it's just a one one running back game is a single terry. They did pick up. devante freeman here for practice games. But who knows if he's going to get in and single terry good running back. But he's not a great running back. And i think that's gonna take from this team here tremendously because now it is truly all a running gun buffalo office which we all know that but they don't have the the run game to complement the passing game. The way they should if they would had to running backs in that in that to me i believe does play it or does factor in conference game and a conference game. You need to be so well-balanced and have all your people are all your weapons ready to go. And i think you might see a lack of a running game which is gonna put a lot of pressure. And i would not be surprised josh allen who is not made many mistakes throughout the year mistakes. I see him making more mistakes than kansas city and then with kansas city koso- explosives. They do make a few mistakes in if they do fall down by one two or even three touchdowns. It's not the end of the world as long as patrick mahomes healthy. Look for them to be able to strike right back so i like i like kansas city home. They are a three point. Favorite of this one It's going to be close. We've got four good teams going at it. So it's time for that five star. I am one one boy you know you look at both these games. You could go either way. But i think i'm going to go with my five star. Pick this week is going to be the kansas city chiefs right here. I just think they're. They're the better team. They're the home team. They're playing in the stadium. They're gonna have seventeen thousand fans which they had all year. I think that makes the difference. I really do. I think kansas city punch certificate. Go back in to the super bowl. So he finds star pigskin. Kansas city chiefs. Okay god's that's gonna do it for this week's edition of talk radio again. I am the greenhouse host. Now if you have any the you'd like to add on these gains before if you to do a little monday morning quarterback i'd appreciate don't be afraid to send me an email and that's thus sports comedy show at g mail dot com plus. You can always hit the website at sports comedy. Show dot net email. There is even a blog section. There if you wanna put something funny. Football are on the on the website. Sports culture dot net. Don't be afraid to check those out. We'll see your monday. Were do a little monday morning. Quarterbacking every go over everything. I just gave the right here have a good weekend because we've been working for the weekend and now the weekend is here. Awry of guys have a good day. We've got y'all.

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Cory Stillman on Quinton Byfield

All the Kings Men | LA Kings

24:46 min | 6 months ago

Cory Stillman on Quinton Byfield

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Kings Mandate Manzke DOT com. That's Manzke. Dot Com and use the code kingsman. brought. This up on all the king's men live a few weeks ago. But personally, I viewed the draft at the end of one season and the opening of free agency as the start of a new one. So this is the season premiere of another season of all the king's men. We still have no idea when the new NHL season will start. But today we've got head coach of the Sudbury Wolves Cory Stillman in to talk about quitting by field who as you all know the king selected with the second overall pick in the two thousand twenty NHL entry draft. Joining me now former NHL. Of head coach of the Sudbury Wolves, Cory Stillman, how're you doing today corey? Very. Well, thank you. So Quentin by field is drafted second over all by the Kings you yourself were six overall pick in the nineteen ninety-two entry draft. So I mean you've got some personal experience being a high highly rated high taken at draft pick obviously the league was a bit smaller. The Internet was a bit smaller but how much pressure is on a player in that position being taken in the top ten of NHL entry draft. Well I think today's game. There's a little more pressure than back then just based on social media and what you can find on the Internet when when I was going through at that time. Yes highly rated but I don't think ratings came out until the hockey news was published and you had to put your hands on it and. Today we have people watching games all over the world and finding out what players are who they play like what they're what they're looking at and know for young kids going through the game today I I. Think you've got to be on your best every night and For the pressure. We do grow with it. A Quinton was a great player all the way through minor hockey everybody knew from probably peon. He was going to be number one or two in the Oiy Gel. Then once we got here, I think after the after his first year, there was always the. By field, you know question who's going to go number one. So we he's been playing with pressure is all career. How much does apply how how a player handles that pressure get factored into how he's rated by scouts guy sort of can't handle it will that dramatically hurt his standing. I think if a player can't handle it yes he he will. He will drop in ratings and and that comes to the base of the consistency of game in game out and there there's going to be is on top players every night. So you have to be at your best and if you're having weekends where you're great on a Friday, Saturday Sunday you're. Not, very and the following weekend. Friday Saudi. You're good Sunday you know your games out there they're gonNA. Start you know they're going Dick Mark every little box that they have would be in those consistencies not there in the NHL level you can't have you can't afford players to take nights off and chalk two out of three games or or say seven hundred. Ten your best players are your best players night in night out these kids learn to do it, and in Quinton you know from sixteen seventeen is learning to do it and I think he's only GonNa get better as with age Lazaga a little bit about your career and use that as a sort of Lens to look through to to buy fields potential. Like I said sixth overall pick in the ninety two entry draft two time Stanley Cup winner, you win it on the two different teams in back to back seasons. One of only two handfuls of guys to do that. But then you become the player development coach in Florida for a season than the director of player development and forward development for the hurricanes for five years. How much of your current job is coach? Were you prepared for in that role as Director of player development? Well. For for me the day I retired I had a job I have to think. About that was my last year playing I was in Florida. they were gonNA make some moves trying to change the organization and and he said I'm going to trade you. But what you've done here with the young guys when when the day you retire whether it's this year next year the year after let me know I'm going to have a job for you in player development and it ended up being that summer that I called back but. I think as I go through my career. When you're young, you're in there playing, you're working as I got older I was brought into teams to play with young players and great players in that and I think maybe the coaching came out, then on helping and maybe not being able to do everything but at least be able to explain how to do it. So I go from from playing up to age thirty, six, thirty, seven helping players probably my life five six years to development where you're in and out to the last three years. This was supposed to be our fourth year here in Sudbury to coaching where you get to use. everything learned from junior hockey to I've played in the minors to the NHL to playing with superstars to We'll be hall of fame coaches, Jack Adams coaches, you take everything all you can handle. Put it in your box and then try to help young kids and in junior in the interior hockey league. You're sixteen to twenty years of age. Kids are learning a lot about the game and a lot about growing up from being away from home to play all the time playing in front of fans. You know whether it's two thousand or Our ten thousand fans. Take what you've learned and pass it on and I think that's the way our game continues to grow. You've got one son who currently plays for you in Sudbury at chase and another Riley who was already been drafted in two thousand sixteen. If I'm not mistaken has played about half a season in the NHL. So I mean it seems to me. You're probably perfectly situated to be the coach of someone like Clinton by filled as I said, having been a I you know first round pick and having won the Stanley Cup and now having children about his age going through very similar things I, mean. What How had I don't know how to ask them and obviously by taking second also, he's great. But I mean what do you see him as a person that makes you optimistic about his career potential Well I think living through the experience of living through today's game is a big thing. Right? Riley is twenty two years of age Cheney's this seventeen. So yeah, you throw in the middle I've been around the junior game right now for a long time. For with the development role. Watching. Is You. Can you have hands on experience you of what kids are going through going through their their rookie or draft year for some is you know you've been drafted. It's still a long ways to the NHL. You get sent back to play junior. Now, meet a coach you through the next couple of years. So when you read the Hammer pro- you can make the jaw whether to the AHL right into the NHL our. I as a as a father. Coach. Yes, you would like you know everybody on your team all your kids who get drafted to go play in the NHL to me. It's it's the best game going. It's how do we get there and how do we have you prepared? So when you when when you're a pro when it's you know it's kind of a job. You're you're working at it you're ready to go right from day one. Obviously Quinton is. Six foot four I think he said six foot four and three quarters. Recently. Trying to put that up to six hundred five but I mean he's known. For being fast for his size, but I mean realistically is not just fast for any size. He thought he's going to be faster any sizing. When you get a kid who who's who's that big sometimes say their leg strength can't handle there there're. Body coordination isn't there and they get faster. Quinton Skate and and that was one of the biggest things for him is how quickly he can get onto pox how quickly he can recover from a mistake at at six? Yes. Six five probably aren't. Years of age. You're a man and a man body right now that's owning still going to get stronger bigger and stronger He'll surprise people You don't think is that big can skate as well as he does in junior novels. When you're at six some, you know some kids one, hundred, fifty pounds some could be two hundred but not carrying it. He separates himself from everybody very quickly. There's a lot of talk about the game changing to more speed more skill based but some of the pushback that I've heard from from various corners of the industry is maybe maybe the game needs to slow a little bit down just because some guys move faster than they can think or sometimes move faster than their linemates can process the game I'm can Quinton think the game as fast as he can physically execute it I think he can. Yes and that's a it's. It's a question that would have been asked a lot about share on it. You know people would say about hockey I think what's happened sometimes is that he plays it so fast that some of his lying mates weren't there to speed with him. Thinking it, and again when he takes off I, didn't have I wouldn't have too many guys on my team that could could play and think with him. So I think when he gets the NHL. When things are done faster quicker, it might simplify his game a little bit more and even better player in him be able to to make the play he wants to play because somebody's already there. How difficult this is sort of a side question. But how hard is it to gauge the real talent and potential of a guy who's sixteen seventeen, eighteen years old when he's playing in these leagues surrounded by other players that may be won't have the same kind of career is they will. it gets tough. It would always be nice to see and when you talk for when you ask me what my question about going to the draft is I played with todd owner who was also a high pick in the NHL in the Ottawa sixty seven's just had this year. with Jack Quinn and Marco. Rossi and you know if you can put two elite players on a team on the same line that are a joke couch or wanted to center months winger I think. Then you'll start to see how good these players are and how they dominate games and and you know for for Winston at at times is coach I was trying to find guys that were going play with them. So some might see that different linemates It was like, how do we keep Quinton going? We know he's going to be good for almost two points a game how the three hundred four, and now is finding different players every night instead of just having that rock-solid. Left wing or right winger that I knew was going to be at any also we talked to. Brian Cooper and Mike carefully these earlier this summer the play by play guys for for your sub rules. They were sort of raving about his ability to just grab the PUCK. Steam up ice on his own make a move leave guys behind him Can I mean we sort of been covering this already, but can he be a playmaker? Can he set up guys and improve his linemates? I think he can. Yes. I I really do is basically the highlight girls sometimes when they're watching games like score highlight goal. What goes on notice this is a five foot pass or three foot PAS or jumping in and creating space, and he does that it just goes on notice because of what he did when he had the park, right? So you put them with some good wingers. Experienced, wingers out there like. Know Jeff Carter and teach them and work with them. In, his career could take off again because you have a guy here that is willing to hound pox skate can make place. It makes the game a lot easier for your linemates. That brings up a great question that I. I am always desperate to know this and it's rare that you get a chance to ask somebody who might give you the real answer but there's been a lot of talk about how incredible it would be to have someone like, Andrzej copay Tar you know Dustin Brown's Jeff. Carter. Etcetera. Available to mentor someone like Quentin by field but I'm always curious do older players. Actually impart that much mentorship to young like how much How much can an older player actually improve younger players game by being quote Unquote Mentor, and how much are they just sort of? There and you hope that the younger player you know uses that. It can be done and you have you need to write player to do it the the player who's willing to to take the time to talk to. Him. You know guys who played in the League now for ten or twelve years. They know what's right what's wrong or they should. So you have guys like that that can add their little bit go through their experience. Hey, when I was young I couldn't do this either this is the you know these are the places you have to make right now you're going to get a little leeway culprits are is going to have more leeway than what Quinton by field real have lost you why because he does he can do it year after year after year is showing him. These are the little steps. It's a big step from junior to pro. So the the right guys they're willing to put in the time and that's not you know being hard on him all the time. Sometimes it's correcting him before the coach has to correct it coming back to the bench talking to them as long as he's willing to absorb the information that he's. All Stars, and that's what they are giving you. Your game is going to improve, and again if I if I'm a guy who's thirty to thirty, two years of age thirty, five years of age and we're not true and I can get a young kid and we have some chemistry and it goes from twenty to twenty, five, twenty, five to thirty or whatever. Walking out that I got this young kid I'm helping online's producing. It helps everybody in our organization. You mentioned the fact that You know we only see highlight reels of these guys when they're when they're being touted for the draft and everything in one of the thing that drives me crazy. As you see these fights, for example, the last six months it's been by field versus shots low who should the kings take and you get people saying well, she doesn't like to shoot from by feel. Too Big and Blah, with all these fights. And the only thing that I want to know is, how do they play without the puck on their stick but of course that never makes it to the highlight reels. Hum. Mean can by field become player like Andre Dr. Play that two hundred foot game is he you know more one dimensional like Patrick? Line and where does he fit into the? No the one thing that we've been working on here and I've been trying to teach them is that two hundred foot game and and you talk to him, he'll admit it to start. He didn't know how to check. what now getting out of it in junior hockey plays it two hundred foot game he he's down battling in our own zone to create offense he's learning and when he's on to the fullest, he comes from behind. When as a coach when you're going through it, there's guys when things aren't going well, they just cheat and they you know blow the zone, they're hoping to get a bounce. Clinton understanding is is that you're going to create your own offense is you have to have the puck to be around it, which means you're going to have to come into our own zone stop and start your strong enough to play download your big enough to play down low, and you can excel that between the top between the goal line the Hash marks if there's a player on, you've already separated yourself. So I see him being a copay type player that you know every team wants a big Centerman? Who can if he can do that and if he excels he should. He's going to be a great player there in La was adolescent that you had to learn in your career and if so when did you learn? Everyone has to learn it and I and. To to me, it goes why sometimes when you're going through. NHL. Drafts and you're going through you got a first round second round or and all of a sudden you going through and it's like all the in the same draft, the third round or the second or third rounder might play in front of the first rounder and it's Y and it's it's because this guy has not been the elite score the goal playmaker he's had to play the two hundred foot game. And in that works sell you to the NHL faster than being one dimensional. So did it take me a bit of time I? Think it did I two years in the minors you know thinking you're ready to go. Now looking back the miners for me would have been best saying 'cause I developed more of a hockey game and I ended up playing more years than people that played in the NHL before me. Gone a couple of questions that I sort of have to ask for the for the fans and nuns secretly want to know myself if you if I you know wave a magic wand gave you complete control over Clinton's career. Would you have him start in the NHL this season or would you have I I can't I can't answer figures because you. Know it's too tough if he's ready to play at the NHL, I'm playing the. And right they're young kids they have to go in a role that you're going to see ice times where you you know you're not counted on to be the difference of a hockey game night in night but you can you know if in an eighty two game schedule if quinton was only going to dress for twelve fourteen games, I'd say it would be best to play junior. But if you're going in playing seven seventy six out of the eighty two games and in his and can be relied upon and counted upon to you know to play the game at that level then he should stay in the NHL. There's a phrase that I hear all the time Social Media and Fan message boards in its he has nothing left to prove the lower level and it's one of those things where you know you've got a guy like by fielder Arthur Kellyanne where you go look it's the Ahl or sorry the NHL or juniors he can't play in the age too young and so the argument is well, if he just goes back to juniors, he's just going to dominate for another year and that he's got nothing left to prove is that is it true that a player can reach a point where there's quote unquote nothing left to prove. There there is a point where you couldn't nothing to prove, but you'd better be very special and if and if you're at that point, you're you're going to be at the NHL right like When you talk dial, you said a little bit about Keleaf right and it's changing subjects here. There's a lot of his game. Yes. He can score at at the NHL level. He hasn't NHL but there's GonNa be part of his game that that would you know 'cause the head coach or assistant coach be like we're not putting him on yet? Right. Now. Coming back to junior when you scored all your goals. And you dominate the League Not Willing to buy in. It creates bad habits. Habits are hard to break. So You know like Go. Go Way back when when Eric Lindros was coming out of junior year doesn't approve correct. Right. He's eighteen years of age. He's a man he can move on. There's other guys land dry settle started in the NHL but then had to go back into junior because yes, he was putting up points through more to his game. There's more than any job than just scoring. God. Bless you for saying that because I I. Constantly get in fights with people where they say the point of the game is to score goals and I was notes the point of the game is to score more goals than your bone it. When when the kings were making their decision by field versus how much contacted they have with you. The, every everything will call you know if you're if you're in in the running to get a top pick players on your team they're going to call and ask for all the information that you can give and I give as a coach and you know who they're comparing him to and. It's difficult for me as a culture in the interior hockey. To compared Clinton to Soochow, because I don't see suits on ninety, nine zero where I Clinton every day, right? No, they're. They're going to call. They want their background. and then it's up to. What? To make that final decision along with their head. Scout. So, yeah. You are in contact with them and then it's you know. Give them for me. The way I work is I give them the information, all the information they want. Good bads. You're I'm I'm selling player, but I'm not going to sell them something that he's not. If. Clinton does wind up playing another season in Sudbury I don't know if you've got other guys but I imagine you might have other guys drafted to other NHL. Teams. is there ever any sort of extra pressure whether it's from the teams or just subconscious to make sure that these guys who have been drafted are getting the right ice time to help their career or being shown faced or highlighted is a difficult to juggle responsibility. It does come in there. So if if Quentin Thomas Bach. Even. Losch Losch was the best player in our league. So now our back, he's a year older I would you know put some pressure on on the organization in? In order to you better, be taking a run at the Memorial Cup player like this doesn't come around very often. Right. So now it's it's a lot of moving parts. But now we have two other we'd have three four other guys. Saw Getting to a point. when you go Quinton, put you over the top. Final question and feel free not to answer it. Would you have taken quitting by filled with the first overall pick in this year's draft? Tough. Tough one. Tough. No and then you know what to me I would because I know what Clinton is every day compared to the French. And also 'cause you're built you know down the middle of the ICE. And he's six foot four. He says six foot three in four three quarters. Do you have a six foot five Centerman that can play at two hundred foot game I guess I time mortell over the next five, ten years to see. But they're both great players and you're not GonNa go wrong either you of them. Excellent. Well, thank you so much for your time cory really appreciate it. Okay. Thanks a lot.

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"You can start well. There was sports gambling podcasts. Coming out of the pat maxine corporate offices yeah madness has officially begun forties on. We'll champions league little jabs. You got three straightforward nicer yesterday. Yeah what did we miss yesterday. Yesterday was fucking uv and go through that one hurt we got to today. We got barsa tied right now. Messy justness penalty to footy. Yeah how are you you want northern colorado earlier today and syracuse your fucking wagon today pasta. This is march baby slowly. Been waiting food yesterday. Yesterday i finished Three and three in college basketball if that's a bad day you're having pretty fucking good week. A cleveland state baby. Congratulations even states. A wagon rise in league champs. I don't know if you guys saw as me pat my back. Four last night boxy. We're back good time to get high. Well we're we're back last night. You should definitely fade me to come on. You got to have confidence on. This is football season. I went for fucking be walking on water but ncaa basketball season anything. This is the best time of the year to get hog gambling. One matters before then my records terrible. But i don't care because this is march baby. We're going to get hot. I just want wanna hockey game yesterday. Things looking at fucking puck line pens things. Nba's back after the all star break. Yup got the nhl march madness. Fcs is picking up. Yeah okay gained steam. The players is this weekend tournament. I'll we know who's winning that call calling more players just learned our players is the quote unquote fifth major. So the boys are gonna be ramped up for that Actually we're going to cut make jeff back on today skill. Fucking golf loughgall flocks. Last last week and his model he had hofland and bryson is one to was up there. He fell off a little bit. But as we all know bryson came through and one in connor's believe connors was when he finished third fourth so we are good there any other sports on missing then we got coming up now. We go footy. Footy is just roll in your late tomorrow. I don't i don't love betting on the europa league. Just because i mickey mass teams care about it and some things you just never know. I'll usually wait till i see the lineups to make a play but you can get some good lines out there right now man. We have a big role on this show release. I have a big role on. This show is try to stay away from trying to guess who's gonna care in a game. And whose knocker karen and how you caught some of the situations Like i said major conference tournaments or starting today do they start. Last night was earning major. No no no no. So they're starting. There's what two big ten games at least The acc not because ac started. Yesterday i did get a glimpse of foxy. I don't wanna get your pay on this. I don't know if you saw it. Did you see the shooting background. The big ten tournament. You show you're the one that showed me that that's going to be a problem there instead of for some reason the big ten tournament. They're not doing it bankers life. They're not doing it any they're doing it at lucas oil stadium here in indianapolis and we talked to terrence ross down in the bubble and he was like shooting background. Here is unbelievable because it was just a black a black curtain. I believe in six feet behind the hoop at lucas oil stadium. There is nothing beyond the hoop probably for thirty forty yards which fox up the shooter's depth perception so i might take a few days in the big ten tournament. Look for michigan. Potentially excuse me iowa to potentially get upset because they shoot a lot of threes garza's good and they're missing shots. I will get upset. Their last night Threw it out there. Gone dagga gonzaga. Live money line last night. Skopje texas when it was down twelve. Or whatever i am. I i i don't think on zag is going to get there to the final four. I think they're going to get got by talented fast athletic team at some point if you can defend because their offense is so unbelievable. Yeah and yeah. I think they're gonna get god. I can see that. Like i think baylor's night when they were down twelve or whatever live bet. That was awesome. I think baylor's better than zag. I'll say that right now. I focus double hit that. Because you said live that. And i had taken. Byu pre flop. Yeah you had a plus fourteen. I didn't even know fox's backer foxy foxy bets is back here. Yeah jay how we do it pat. He did so well for us. Last week we decided. Hey we got the players this week. The fifth fifth major this guy. Maybe so much money. Welcome back show at cut maker jeff to cut maker pot plus jeff. Jeff gentlemen jeff jeff. Yeah funny you're a hero. Buddy juicy. The internet's reaction to that bet for bryson futures. I mean that was because you gave us a seven names but out of that. It's because you. I appreciate what you did. You helped out my dog count immensely and put me on a ride on sunday that i could have never experienced. I appreciate you a lot. Well let's do it again baby again. Who do you like this weekend for the for the players. Couple of guys like a real quick. I like jon rahm. Seventeen to one is probably the shortest to these. He does very well scores on part vibes and avoid bogeys. I like jon rahm zehnder shop please a good price this week at twenty four to one grades top three my motto zander latte zero hatton thirty three to one. A lot of people are on him last week. I like him this week. The number one player in my model guys. It's funny because he has the some mayo came up with the nickname forum of a bit. And victor howland is. We've been alaska. Great he's never one of my model and love hot one rated number one last week i again this week he can pot. Well i do. Because he's about how to solve on the planet right now outside of what happened to him last week. Did he fall off on saturday or sunday morning. Yeah he thinks he's a little bit on saturday and then it was funny to saturday night. He was seven hundred fifty two want. I'll say y'all throw five bucks on a sixty one issue the trafford yet in the hunt but then it was brutal conditions on sunday. It was really windy. A lot of people struggled and a problem with one of those two so again you he can get down a little bit the main guys. He grabs out so well short term long term. Everything love obviously okay. I'll have offline while already bet on my question for you is. What was bryson. D shambhu bo doing saturday night at seven twenty practice at night. What did they mean by that. And they're like. This is an exhausting way of golf. Like what did they mean by that. You know he's he the guy who just won't go out and keep working on a lot of these guys do that. They want to. You know the plane around the back out. Figure something out whether roy bryce views driver a lot of these guys they wanna try to dial something in when you're trying to bomb it. Three seventy like bryson is over the late. You gotta get you gotta get working out. Ucla harvey slaves when you swing. That's a workout. I get tired. Just watching jeff when you did your model this week and these were the guys who graded out. Well the model jon rahm softly. Hadn't victor hobbling and by the way for future reference. I bet as you say these names so maybe lead off with the favourite three thousand down before you even say the papers mike. Okay now this guy. Hey hey pat pat one more guy you got put in there a along shot wills towards e five to one eighty five grades out tok ten of my model throat drove one hundred on here russillo. He's got an outside chance. Two thousand dollars. Let's go do all right. So let's go at the players ed. Tpc what what are the key factors that went into the model this week. So yeah honestly as it's a couple of thinking. There are easy par here that you have to bernie and so i looked at a little bit but there are several par fours that are just under five hundred yards factored force boring those missions and pretty well and bogie avoidance guys. I mean there are seven holes and had more than twenty percent votary. So if you if your the fis but if you're bogeys in these other holes it you're gonna give it right back. So i looked at score par. Fives and can you avoid your bogeys. John rocker's with one of the best. That but man. I like too. So it's gonna be it'll be funded par four and five hundred yards or so and then avoiding okay and one issue where we are going to have. I know the has a big issue with it. Gumby lousy more call with this weekend. I just bet large more gal. So where's he at your model. Sleek more cowan is actually short-term fifth. So he he's out wells but it's really hard to win back to back on e. j. z. Right and that's not what you learn not done that. He do it. But it's one of those things where it's great of course. Of course he's really played very well nicholas courses. It's not very long so it's going to bring a lot shorter nader's in apply to so the beers were more account might actually have a big edge field. I think this the short of this course kind of the plane get a little bit for people who aren't as good as long as more ballots. Do you factor in the fact that he just learned a india algorithms and stuff bermuda grass potty rep and all that stuff. Yeah actually. I do look at his putting in the short term rounds and your as improved dramatically. But he's he's still gonna have to beat some of the elite putters citizens of the world. Some of these guys don't have to hit it very far and who are even better. You know yeah. He's he's played much better but he's not calling elite yet yet not can't get there but some of these other folks are and again the short of course this week really keep alive light other guys that are senate unique then. Sentencing archery island. Green is only one hundred twenty nine yards. So there's always in this league that are are super short all right so you got rahm. Softly hatton wills al torres. Do you have anything else before we get you out of here As far as matchups or anything like that this weekend that you really like one. Great had number one in my shorts term model scottie scheffler. He's forty two. One elite are for the life net match ups. I took wrong over rory i took over brazen and i took everybody in the whole world overseas. Because he's while he's hitting the twenty foot by plus east because of all over the place with his driver could get awfully wet if he can't dial it in. So i took a lot of different matchups against speed and on vandross specifically there's a bet you you bet with without Around i took zander. Seventeen one twenty-one one okay you can follow may cut maker jeff on twitter cut maker pod and how do they sign up for the texting service again. Just text the word to eight five five five. And you'll you'll get you'll get taxed tonight at seven o'clock with all the plays me. friday morning. Had saturday morning heads. Sunday morning and then live. Betsy make on very offers when there's value guys and you'll get a lot of deaf we can't take you. How'd you get into this. How'd you get into this whole thing. No no i just honestly of done a lot of sports betting my life and i was kind of finding something that world some way i could have an angle that i could actually win repeatedly and you know you can do a lot of analysis on football or basketball and all these various veterans and i just found the right tools available to plug it into gaul and it's been really really good. It's tastes a lot of work. I mean it's put ours ours in each tournament but he every year the models get sharper when these tournaments repeat themselves. And i find i can. I can put some pretty good results. So the is only keep going. And you ocoee. Yuki pat me on and we all went. Hey how fourteen units you. How upset are you though that you're one hundred thousand dollar man burkey. Cookie is out with injury. How now jacquards knee. I'm not real about that. We yeah it's funny. I wanted time in my life but grand my life. I'm betting on good. So yeah the first time. I won his first. Us open on twenty grand. I attempt to pollute. My house is great. You got a life size that out. It was altered eggs guy embalmed that he wasn't playing this league. We're hopefully he can rest up. He'd be ready for the masters. All right jeff. I appreciate you. We'll talk to you probably around the masters. Thank you so much. And i did subscribe to the texting a tax. And it's a lot of plays and it's awesome cheers cut maker. Jeff thanks thank you jeff for zigal now face a. He's freezing up a little bit there. is it frozen. I love that guy. I missed them last week. He's great he and i made a lot of money. I mean he loves golf and he taught me on quite a ride there. It is much better whenever you go out seventy shane. Everyone against speed is my favorite thing. Ever speech was in it there for a little bit higher and then us on tour last weekend like speed when speech wind speeds plays good. He's like the luckiest golfer that they say he hits all these long pots. And all that which i guess is also skill but if he is spraying it it's a wet course Congrats the pat. You just wanna eighteen hundred dollars on the total of northern arizona portland state over one thirty one. He's sharpening and he knew that earlier bet during his live show to fifteen pm. I believe you made that. But i made that bet for mid afternoon game. What was the team's planning Northern arizona portland state. Saw that one thirty one and i thought you know these boys. What are the teams again. Northern arizona state. I knew these boys are gonna show up. You know. I knew they're gonna put balls in a basket and we talk about these two squads you talk about teams that when the lights come on stars come out. I appreciate that. Put our show at one. Thirty one seemed a bit low to me is low so i mean we had a conversation quickly but i have nothing rather hard in the middle of just a little action and i thought in the middle of the show of things. Die down a be able to take a little look. See down there and get a little reaction out of it. Didn't even look at dos. Taking the old post show shit and fuck and soak dude. It's go away. It's been good march madness thus far from me. actually. I don't know if yes yeah went to We all we got one thirty. One forty three. Wasn't what a joke dude. I saw a number. I knew there fucking handed down. One voice and sat one weren't they. Fox's you make any other bet yet. bet five bucks all those dudes. Why basketball to do you want to hear the fun here. We got now. I had a parlay remember. Par lay lost. Yeah again i think now. I mean sex sex state loss so i had portland state to northern arizona beat them. I picked every favourite today march madness. Yeah there's been some upsets that was that theory has lost from me a few times gel seven to one favorite last night. That's what i'm saying but if you try to get a big bang. The nhl favorites are gonna win. Win- favorites are going to win. But you gotta you gotta get real lucky that you don't get the who among us the one the night that is going to upset ruining entire apartment. Shell of all the sports this year. Nhl the favorites have just been fucking cashing in A good bet before we get to our college basketball plays see which one we are going to take out of our lineup foxy actually. Actually you hit last night puck line pens. Four three quarters of the ice put nothing. Thank you save six lost five. We've no what to do with your pets. Yeah in this sucks. Because i actually hate this game but it's on espn. So i have to take it Duke against louis new. You were going here to dukes. Stakes louisville lost two and a half simple as that. I got no other explanation. Bet i can get on. Let's go fox. let's go. I mean ducasse stuck all season long. That kid quickly got good. Been much better fox. Biggest bet i've ever gone at the beginning of the show. This is the time to get hot. March is the best time of the year to get hot. And i'm really feeling the heat right now. I think it's common. Oh he's he's in the kitchen you on cable. I knew that was going to be fun. You just i always pick it beforehand. And then i get caught in the crossfire. One way or another. I knew duke. Louisville was the one on. the slave. Mercer on monday was enough for you. That i mean those kids with dad's super to the stay were fucking and right. There was an live on the rim. A guy had a wide open layup. It just didn't go in. That was last night. The end of that pens game. Sid rifles went off. The post. wanna left then. There was an empty net. That hit the post again all know and then all of a sudden minute left or whatever he puts another one in there the jubilation that had to come from getting a win with pittsburgh had to be pretty good that felt like the curse breaking traffic turning point and this march is going to be awesome. Yeah i hope it was because that mercer. Unc game not only did you fuck over mercer in that game their alumni g somehow because their team total was sixty nine and a half sixty nine and they might have missed twelve free throws and a dunk coming down the stretch. It was wide open unbelievable. They they were trying to help fox they were came to power. Vacuum is why you gamble. Though that lasts two minutes was so electric watching it even though we all lost it sucked but it was so. There's a couple of nights where. I don't get what betting on and it's really good for my little count as of lately are gonna be He's not waking up by the way just off the bus being you. I mean there's an eleven o'clock tip. I i mean i saw that last night. I mean it's just like byu pepperdine starting at midnight like that. Get you had that you send a text in a group like a live. Becca zog right. Now it's plus something. I gotta plus whatever but there's no way i'm staying awake for that and i'm not a morning person at all but one thing i really look forward to in the morning i wanna see. Did we hit or not. Forget the games we'd bet on but it's it is a fantastic way to start your days. I have this thing where like i. I wake up in the middle of the night all the time. And if it's like three or four. Am i have to go check to see you. Allegedly science says you're not gonna fall back asleep because of the way the the phone did really good for you. If i'm real quick reminds me. I am an absolute locked for tomorrow morning. So i have to get out michigan. State plus one and a half against maryland maryland just michigan state revenge game. It's guarantee lock michigan. Say tile we're going to get into the dance. The boys are to roll. okay well. I may patch employs gets maryland. And we're not a three point shooting team. We're actually terrible. Three point shooting team. So we're in lucas oil stadium. That big ass dome. It's not useful. Nice they've been maryland's been a roller coaster all damn year all right. Let's start with iona side you taking. I mean i'm taking the point and a half. And i got iona minus. I'm on iona is minus one. And you're on cnn. Plus we'll tattoo maybe or something allowing show tell me why underdog in this matchup thirteen three against the spread and i just honestly think they're the better team. Okay i got the gaels. Which i would never ever ever ever bet against the gaels seventy one. Ats or lasts. Eight versus winning teams five and one. Ats after a win. Four and one. Ats on neutral site. Seven to eighty s in the last nine. I like the matchup up. Fair-play seen a lot of people on it. That's not good. That's not good. How many people this if you let me. It's a tough right now. Tough match-up anyway. You look fifty. Five percent of the tickets are on. I own a with forty five percent of the money on my own. So i mean we got a little flippy. Floppy thing going on there like the next. I'm i'm on u. T. s. a. minus four and a half versus charlotte. Do you have anything on that. no. I'm skipping that tony. Utsa four oh and one the last five favorite five and one in their last six overall five and two after w and charlotte is ben. Absolute dumpster fire lost eight in a row. They fucking stink giving. Utsa four nath tony. What up taking van de money. Line over texas cnn. Scottie pippen skit. Vandy ole andy is a great pick. Eleven seven and five against the spread five one and four against the spread their last ten and the favorite in this matchup five and one against the spread. Last six let me one up there. Seven one and four in their last twelve overall three. Oh and one in their last four verses losing team and six own to in their last eight falling the loss eight. Am on a five and eleven. Ats run one and four in their last five dog. Oh and five following against the spread win eight am also not on on a good trend streak here love the vanity. I mean i could take money. Lineup could take modest one. It doesn't matter yeah. I love of money My next i don't. Am i against you in this one. What do you got go. The brassica plus six and a half every game. So i don't know i i have today. There were thirty something. And i have one two three four five. I don't love this game tony. I laid the points with penn state but it is a lot. I'm not gonna fight you on. Well they split this season. Yeah the game. The penn state won they won by three penn. State is three nine eighty s in their last twelve favourite. Oh and five. Eighty s in their last five games losing teams and then i have the brassica six and two hundred eighty s awful loss this season and or on iran nebraska. Five and one. Ats in the last six as neutral dog. This is getting expensive Are you putting all these in. Yeah you guys did. I just i. Nebraska was fucking terrible. They didn't get their first big ten win until two weeks ago. But penn state also penn state shows up against better teams. It seems like they'd be down against worst. What does he got This is the brassica. It i laid the six and a half penn state. but i don't love it. And i took a brass brass Rascals problem with that football they were was completely like missed everything because of how good nebraska and this is a classic which team stinks worse. Games or sky north western. I'm taking the money line over. Minnesota was leaning that way to this minnesota team. I don't know what happened to them. They've lost players. They got guys not playing tonight. Patino seems like he's lost it neutral site minnesota owen ten last ten on on the road. So how do i do. I think about taking i talked about taking the under in these terrible games. Ten opening games but northwestern defense is thirteenth in the big ten and minnesota defense fourteenth in the big ten I believe that would put both those teams dead last. So i'm not gonna probably taken under win the defense that bad. The offense is not their tenth and eleventh so not not that much better. you what. i'm gonna go big on the penn state nebraska under okay. One forty five and a half. Put that as my lock. Now you're speaking. Because i forgot about the big ten optics that your high so let me look at that because their defense also the optics of the big stadium nod easiest shoot. I mean it's right. it's correct on. Here's the thing nebraska offense number they. They are fifty six in the nation as far as taking three pointers. Which is there's three hundred and thirty teams in the nation An penn state fifty seven. So they are going to shoot the ball and attempt it so that will help. The under is what. I'm trying to say because are miss. Three point shots cracks versus what fox's eddie about michigan state they don't even shoot the three so it's not gonna affect them as much. These are two teams. That can affect. That's my basketball. Look so as part of their distribution. Nebraska penn state huge. You know what. I might take that with you paul nebraska under. Let's do that. Let's let's do that. Everything real big. I need to check the pace on these two teams before the fucking do that too. Yeah let's just let's just knock it all willy nilly connor while we're doing that. Will you come in. Or or or nikki skates whoever My last nca pick was the pollen providence under one thirty five. They scored one hundred and four. The last time out the paul honor eight and one in their last nine after loss. Eleven to under his dog. Thirteen and three underrun paul and providence. Under one thirty five tonight what else you got anymore. 'cause i got army money line this morning this lines up to like minus three. My is three and a half. I would just add money line over loyal and then i'm also taking the four with florida atlantic. They're seven and three of their last ten. I looked up and six and four against the spread last ten who they against their against utah. I've looked at it but can do it Who to go skates or connor basketball. Don't me tony. It's up to you and be on a two game tonight. Why don't you fucking kick us off to two games tonight. I am going to give you a player performance. Double for each game here. And and i'm going to go ahead and pick the games tony. I i will take the wizards grizzlies over to thirty seven. I was gonna say grizz but it turns out. That line is moving down. And i never liked to bet on those. Tony the always freak me out. Right on the spurs mavericks game. I'm actually and take the spurs plus four big time you know. Hey overcoming off the all star game doncic. The marta rose and again some may say he got sobbed revenge. Second half which leads me into my first player. Performance doubled the marta rose. And twenty points in the spurs to win plus three thirty. He gets pretty good values. It is a taste of they'll treat. You can go ahead and parlay that would mirant dabo dabo grizzlies to win. Plus three hundred we parlay and us together. If you wanna feel frisky you might as well. I also in the same game. I'm going to take the single handedly just because you know. Don't love to bet the triple doubles. Even though i do russell westbrook ripple gobble washing. The wind poss- five forty. I don't think he was an all star this year. Now it wasn't so angry. Russ he's gonna be going after that. Triple double and last banal. These josh richardson little j. Rich for the mavs. twenty points. dow's to win again. Donkey over means other guys need to step up. That's eight thirty. why not. Hey i like wash- washington's playing good ball before the break they are live. Update the wagon. That is the miami. Hurricanes beat clemson. They did fuck. I was going to take to larranaga. Are they gonna win the acc tournament and fucking back door. This thing where they nine and a half point dogs eight. Jeez nikki skates doing well. Great i know you something so. Let's do it quickly. Yeah we're talking to three times cup. Champ aaron ward five minutes for that song whore nets coming up tonight. let's go with vegas money line. They lost to nothing to minnesota on monday. We'll did get that bet right now. We're going the opposite way. We're look as love back. Nice back to the well with la over five and a half. They lost six to five. Not the ducks on monday. I think they can pull it off this time and gumby sent me some interesting stats on montreal lab don. We're on vancouver night. Plus one thirty and over six toes going over six of montreal's seven playing being were. They lost two to one of the apps on monday. We'll look for big bounce back so that that's it. I appreciate your time. 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You Have Tremendous Power Over Your Future (Hour 3)

The Dave Ramsey Show

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You Have Tremendous Power Over Your Future (Hour 3)

"From the headquarters of Ramsey solutions broadcasting from the dollar car rental studios. It's the Dave Ramsey show. That is dog cash is king and paid off home mortgage has taken the place of the w as the status of choice. I am. Dave Ramsey, your host. Thank you for joining us. Open phones at triple eight eight to five five two two five that's triple eight eight to five five two two five. Mike is with us in Providence, Rhode Island a Mike. Welcome to the Dave Ramsey show. Thanks for taking my call. Dave. How you doing today that other non deserve? What's up? I'm just calling with a question regarding my frock, my wife, and I are debt free besides our mortgage, and I don't know if I'm being gun shy here. Or if I should go ahead and buy newer truck, or if I should fix the truck. I have the two thousand eight f one fifty and I've got about one hundred sixty five thousand miles on it, but I've got some body rot. And I'm having a small issue with the transmission. So I think the repairs are going to be somewhere between two to four thousand and the last I checked mine with the value. The truck is worth may be seven thousand or so you think that I should go ahead and do the repairs on the truck and try and get the most I count of it. Or should I go ahead and start looking for a new one? Well, the way you decide on whether it's worth fixing a car that needs repairs. Is you say, okay, if I sold the car as is what would it bring? And in this case, let's just use a number. Okay. Make I'll show you. I'll show you how the example works. Okay. You think you think the trucks were seven if it was fixed up, I believe so. Yes, that's probably sounds about right to me. Okay. So let's pretend there's two thousand dollars worth of work to be done. Now if. If you can sell the truck for six now, you'd be thousand ahead, right? Right of not doing the two thousand dollars worth of work. Right. But if you can only sell it for four now. Well, then it would be worth fixing it 'cause you make an extra thousand dollars by fixing it because four plus the two major have six in it, you're selling it for seven. You see what I'm talking about? So I yeah, my guess is depending on what the how much of its body work and how much of the two thousand body work, and how much of it is transmission, you said minor transmission. So if the transmission five hundred the body works fifteen hundred my guess is this truck will probably bring six if it's worth seven fixed. And that would mean, I would sell it. Okay. And I'd take that six and my two thousand and I was getting ready to spend and by eight thousand or more if you had some more cash to put with it. But somewhere in that range, you know, something like that. But you know, sometimes people are calling me like with a hoop de and they're driving a car that's worth fifteen hundred dollars. And there's two thousand dollars worth of repairs to be done that. Well, that's not gonna make that car worth two thousand dollars more. She don't spend two thousand dollars on a two thousand on a car because it doesn't cause it to go up in value that much. So instead, you sell it for whatever it's worth salvage or whatever it's worth when it's broken, and you put your two thousand with that. And you and you move up a little bit in car. And so that's that's one of cars pretty well, come to the end of its life that that equation applies and if one fifties go longer than a hundred sixty five thousand miles without a doubt, depending on how they've been taking care of. But in your case, you know, you've got some body issues. And you've got some transmission. Issues that kind of change the economics on that James is with us in Tampa, Florida. Hi, James, welcome to the Dave Ramsey show. Michael shirt. What's up? I wanted to get some advice on. So I have forty three thousand dollars in student loans for my wife does, but it's for us. And he's about two years away from a potential student loan forgiveness, and or put my put our funds towards where about thirty four thousand away from our mortgage to get rid of the PM. I we're we're still in the whole quite a bit in debt. I just wanna know which one would work for me better. I would pay off your student loans as soon as possible. Okay. Even though the the student on forgiveness is potentially there need to do some research on student loan forgiveness. It's not happening. Yeah. And make sense. There's like seventeen thousand people have made application in two hundred and fifty head their student loans forgiven. That sounds right. It's not a currying. And so, yeah, it's it's I'm afraid it might be the biggest head fake that the government has ever given the American public, so the, but you know, I hope that changes a whole bunch of people had that as their strategy to get out of debt. But in your case, I'm going just get my student loans paid off paying off your home or paying down your home as baby step six paying off your student loans is baby step two. And so you're when you're working your debt snowball, you pay off your student loans. And that's where you are. You're just down to your last one inch your big one. And it's kind of, you know, Mount Everest airing you in the face, and it's making you making you think maybe I need to try to do something different hit it hit it. Hard hit it often and hit it with intensity Spencer's in Denver. Hi, spencer. Welcome to the Dave Ramsey show. Hi, dave. Thanks for taking my call. It's a true honor to talk to you you too. I have a question for you. I need to find out how I should protect my assets. Without being says, I'm gonna give you a little short summary of what I'm talking about. I'm a nurse. My wife's a teacher we both pull in about one hundred eighty to two hundred thousand a year dependent on my overtime. Great. I am thinking I'm set to pay off my house our house, I should say next month. And I've got two teenagers both are driving. And I need to find out once our houses paid off what she we do to protect it from you know, forbid, you know, they get an accident, and we get sued or something tragic happened. And you know, someone comes after us or. With your income and the stage you are in wealth-building. It's time for you to add an umbrella policy, which is a liability policy. You can buy a million dollars. Extra ability coverage for around two hundred and fifty bucks in Colorado a year, and what that does is it attached to the liability policy. That's already part of your owners and already part of your car insurance. And it adds to the top of that was from teenage drivers might run you a little bit more than two fifty. But it probably won't and I would get that liability. What that does as another million dollars to the mix in case somebody decided they were going to come after you because of a bad situation now as a nurse. You've obviously got professional insurance. Right, right. Yeah. That's covering that issue. That's a separate issue. And but but as far as liability goes, that's the first thing I would do there as you start. Building other wealth later, for instance, if you start buying properties as rental properties real estate investments, put those in an LLC. And I put about five million dollars real estate in the mail, and then I form another one. And so then you know that so you're not there yet. But when you start buying your first rental property, and that kind of thing that's what you'll do just to keep the size of the target on your butt down. That's what you're so I carry on a big ability Brel policy, and I separate the ownership of things out into other entities. That's a risk management strategy. Matter of fact, I actually don't personally own anything anymore. My cars don't have anything completely broke. Dave Ramsey show. A good security system is a sound financial investment a break in concert. You back thousands of dollars. But home security also helps you fear less, and you can't put a dollar value on that. That's why I recommend. Simplisafe simply safe keeps working if the power goes out, if your wife, I goes down or even if a burglar smashes your keypad, plus there's no pricey contracts or hidden fees. Go to SimpliSafe dot com slash Ramsey to get our ten percent discount. That's SimpliSafe dot com slash Ramsey. Grams finale Ken Coleman joins us this hour. He is the host of the Ken Coleman show, which is wildly popular on the Sirius XM as well. As a podcast out. There can just getting back in from New York City did a FOX and friends hit yesterday along with a taping of a Rachel Ray episode both to come up. Excellent job, Ken. Thank you. It's always fun to get to New York and talk about the work that we do here Ramsey solutions. Good stuff proximity. Principle is the new book. It comes out in. May it is in the middle of pre sale right now. It's nineteen dollars. And you get twenty dollars worth of bonus items. If you pre purchase it, and you need to do that. It can Komen dot com or daveramsey dot com check it out immediately. It is the proven strategy that will lead to the career you love can be speaking at our entreleadership summit coming up in a couple of weeks, April twenty eight and may may the first it's complete. Sold out in San Diego. The entreleadership master series is November the third through the seventh. He'll be speaking there as well. And of course, our smart conference coming up in Sacramento, California on November the sixteenth. He'll be speaking with us there as well. So it's a big thing. So the book is available everywhere. The proximity principle walk through how to put yourself in front of the right people. Now, we've talked about that before. But let's talk about again. 'cause so it seems so basic, but it's kind of like some stuff. I teach. It's like you need to hear it again. We're hearing that is we're doing media even Rachel Ray said after we taped a segment she said, this is so simple. But most people forget about this, and we Chuck together. And it's really true. You know, you forget that you have tremendous power over your future. If you are intentional you teach that as we look at the baby steps every day and help people get financial peace and the same thing in doing work that matters deeply to you. If you are intentional to put yourself around people that are doing what? You want to do and they're doing it, successfully you're gonna have the opportunity to learn to do and to connect, and I want everybody listening for a moment. You just think if I was going to make progress in my life, and I only learn something new every day. And I only did something in that field to get better at that every day. And then I connected with somebody in that field. Everyday. Would I make progress in the answer is unequivocally? Yes, you'd make progress. And so what proximity is is intention -ality to get around people that are doing what I wanna do in places where what I wanted to is happening. And here's what it does for us as we are intentional it becomes habitual. And when we continue to show up and put ourselves around the right people in the right places proximity positions us where we want to be and propels us to that alternate goal. And that's what's huge about it. Sometimes it is. It's just real hustling grind. Like if you. I want to be an artist you need to be around other artists. If you want to be it's it is that simple, if you wanna be if you want to be top sales person, and you know, you're you're working in IT, you probably need to be hanging shelter people or vice versa. I wanna be I wanna be an IT. But other times, it's it's it's got a little bigger picture to it. Like if you wanna be a movie star for decades for over one hundred years now people have moved to wear Hollywood. If you want to be a country music star you want to be in the country music business, where do you move? You get in proximity moved to Nashville music city. That's right. That's kind of that's kind of one with a little bit stars in lights around it. But but it can also just be regular everyday stuff. That's exactly right. So in the book, we reveal five people and five places. So let's take the places, for example, that you're talking about where you are is the first. Most people feel like initially that I'm going to have to move. And as I talk about in the book and say on the show every day. You don't have to move somewhere to go somewhere all the time initially. So for instance, let's say that you wanted to be an acting. But right now in your financial world, you're working through the baby steps and moving to LA is not realistic. Do you give up the dream is an impossible. No, let me tell you why. Because there is an acting class. That's available in Europe code. There are local actors who have probably at some point maybe acted on Broadway done some off-broadway tours who are now doing things in your zip code, and you can begin to learn from them. Here's another thing that you can do where you are. You can go on YouTube. You can take a webinar you can buy a bestselling book from somebody who said here is the path to becoming a really good actor. So it doesn't matter what the field is or the industry is you can begin to start the process where you are another place. We talk about in. A book is a place to practice you at some point is you're moving along in the craft. Dave you've got to put yourself in a low risk place to be able to do the craft you, and I both started in radio in a low risk. I started on Saturday afternoons at two o'clock. There's about four people listening to radio on Saturday afternoons, two o'clock. You know that one of them's a guy that was running the board, and he's not even really paying attention to me and your wife, not either. She was she has three kids. She don't wanna hear me talk any more than I already do, you know? So the idea is that where can I practice the craft where my livelihood does not depend on it, and I can stink. Because you, and I both said this one hundred times we wouldn't want anybody to hear our first radio broadcast. I wouldn't want somebody here. The first time I spoke publicly because your first time is usually your worst time. And so we want to be in places where wait a second. I got in proximity to this to this career. And so I started my journey to clock on Saturday. I begin to actually get to learn to do it better. You know? I did it every week. So I got better and better better. Then I was making connections in the industry. And so we unveil five people five places that if you're intentional Dave. Here's what's going to happen opportunity will present itself to you. This is what the proximity principle pays off is opportunity. All people want is a chance to live the American dream to do what matters to them. And what proximity? Does it positions us where we need to be? So that we can get to where we wanna be. Let's get just real simple and real tactic over a second. I agai listening right now is. He's he's got a knack for computers, but he doesn't know how to do programming yet. Yup. And he needs to learn programming skills in order to become a full web web deaf. That's right and order to move into ruby on rails or whatever move into Java. Whatever doesn't know how to do that yet. But says I want to do that. I wanna be that guy. What does he do? Yep. Two quick things. First thing he does he does some basic research, and he looks at where can I learn those skills? So is it for your school note doesn't have to be who's teaching that what our online opportunities where I can go and say, all right? This is what I need to learn ruby rails. Whatever it is. I don't know any of that stuff myself. But that okay. This is what these people are teaching the certification. And you find out how much is that going to cost? How long is it going to take this all of a sudden takes the fear out of the unknown? He didn't know but five minutes later years. Okay. This cost. This is this gonna cost me X amount of dollars. And if I take it at this pace, it's gonna take me six eight two months. Now, the second thing needs to do is he needs to find some people who either he knows or he looks at his friends and acquaintances. Hey, do you know anybody who's a developer in in our hometown in this area? And he's gonna find somebody, and he says, well, you just make a connection say I wanna buy their lunch, and I wanna pick their brain on how they became successful nine times out of ten that person's gonna say yes to that. Because we like to talk about ourselves we really like to talk about our success. And so he takes a pencil and a pad, and he goes to school. And he says now, listen, here's what I want to do. I think I want you to tell me how you got there. I went and did some research the other night, and I found this out. Do you have a better suggestion a how I can learn it do I'd go the Indorama on is their way to do it faster cheaper. You go to school on these people, and they're going to tell you everything you need to know now of sudden with a very minimal amount of effort. You've got the knowledge of what it's gonna take to actually. Make the transition and you sit back and go, okay. This is my reality. I got a mortgage. I got forty thousand dollars worth of debt, whatever your situation is. And I'm gonna have to walk this thing out, and it's going to take me some time, but I can see two three years down the road. I should be able to transition beautiful or I can go to work doing what I'm doing today in a company that already does that tend to maybe they'll train absolutely just get in the door. Ken coleman. The book is the proximity principle, the proven strategy that will lead you to the career you love you. Get at Ken Coleman dot com. Ramsey dot com. How customer Ramsey concierge triple eight twenty two peace can thanks for dropping by thank state. This is the Dave Ramsey show. The lobby of Ramsey solutions. Arnold N Jackie on whether say guys, how are you? Going. Welcome welcome. Where'd y'all live? We live in Kansas City. Cool. Welcome to Nashville and here to do debt free screen. Yes, sir. Love it. How much have you paid off seventy thousand three hundred dollars way ago, and how long did this take twenty two months? Woo. And your range of income during that time, we went from seventy five to just over one hundred cool. What do y'all make? I mean, what do y'all do for a living? I'm a sales engineer for Eton corporation electrical distribution equipment. Go devastate home. Mom, very cool. Good for you, guys. So what kind of debt was the seventy thousand three hundred. Oh, man. It was everything. We've we didn't find that. We didn't like you were nor low. We were extremely normal. We Lowe's credit cards discover credit card 4._0._1._K loan a new brand new Jeep and then owes money to grandma. Okay. Wow. I love it. Very cool. How long have y'all been married going on eight years? Wow. That was a trick one. So what happened? No. Yeah. Exactly. We got that one. We get it. We could get old Arnold. Yeah. The. So what happened twenty two months ago this fuse? So I was raised by my grandparents, and they'd always preached, no debt. So they've lived this their whole life and just like the ones loan you money. Yes. We'll get into that later. So they they raised me I was going to college. And they said where are you going to go to college? I don't know. I gotta get along this. Absolutely. Not you either pay for it. Or you go to the military like this. Yeah. Join the army came back started started working, and we just went after that. I bought a twenty thousand dollars truck making twenty seven thousand dollars a year, which is really really smart. So then we. Yeah. Bought the truck got married did all the dome stuff. And then I got a promotion to win from Asheville North Carolina to Michigan pretty much doubled my pay and I started doing rule rule. Intelligent, math. Double my pay my house brand new house brand car brand new everything. And then I got my first w two from going from twenty seven thousand got a lotta overtime. W two was over one hundred thousand and I didn't have anything show for it or rest out two year old at the time. Didn't that wouldn't going great. And so we said, no next move. If I get another promotion, this this can't happen anymore. So we made the move the Fayetteville North Carolina got another promotion, and then we just we went hard at it. We we had seen your book. I think I'd ask Jackie like before we we'd made the move Michigan. You know, do you have any books ended in our church library was your book? And I got it and brought it home put it on my nightstand. And that's where it stayed. When I was in Fayetteville, North Carolina. We went to Barnes and noble, and I was like all guy. So I got your book home and read it and. Jackie. We've we've got to do this. She's been trying to tell you. She's like finally say thank God, you finally got it. So that's that's the fuse that we one hundred percent, very cool. And then you just follow the total money makeover Chevy through. Absolutely, very cool. So now that you've done it you paid off seventy thousand three hundred dollars worth of debt. Jackie what are you tell people the key to getting out of debt? I think it's being content with what you had. I think you had the minimalists on your show a while back and great guys, they are and just being content with what God is giving you. So that you can bless other people with what you have extra after you've in. It helps you stay out of debt because you're not buying things. You don't need. No, okay. Contentment is a big deal. Very good. Okay. What about you on? What do you tell people the key to getting into ditties credit card points? I just want to see your face. No. What? No, no, absolutely not the key is just not doing stupid matches on the process. You've got a process there. Do it. I know a lot of people that go Dave's plans good. I'm gonna do it. My way, it doesn't work your way works just live less than you make. It's stupid. And twenty two months later. You don't have any payment. I don't wanna how does that feel ridiculous fills amazing? Yeah. Very cool. What about you, Jack? Oh, I love it. The way we grew up. And so it's just going back to where we were when you finally started getting on a budget, and your content and your turn into this debt who were your biggest cheerleaders. I would say migrant parents. So the reason they they gave us the money at the end said grandma grandpa up in dumb, my okay. If you've been telling me how stupid my whole marriage, and now I finally realized it this is my plan. This is what they do, and they were fully supportive. I owe you money. But this is this is where you are you. Okay with Bill Maud debt snowball here. Yeah. Absolutely. Get at it. So. Yeah. I got them cleared off them smile. Absolutely. Yeah. Very good. Good for you, guys. Well done you guys you we're proud of you. Good job. How old are you two? I'm twenty eight and I'm going to be thirty two. Okay. Good all Harry coup. Love it. So seventy thousand three hundred dollars paid off in twenty two months. We've got a copy of Chris Hogan's book for you every day millionaires. That's your next chapter. You're going to be one awesome. You're on the way. And you've got all the parts in place. And he got a great income. You're working together. You're doing all the stuff you're supposed to go win with money. And we're proud of you around here. Thanks for coming down to visit us absolutely tremendous Arnold and Jackie seventy thousand three hundred dollars and twenty two months making seventy five to one hundred counted down. Let's hear a debt free scream. Three to one where? Love it. Well done. Great job man that is amazing fun stuff. Open phones at triple eight eight to five five two two five you jump in. We'll talk about your life your money. It's a free call. We'd love to hear from you. Josh is on Twitter. My wife, and I are opening a new hair salon. It will have eight booths being rented do we need to have an LLC. It doesn't hurt. Anything an LLC is mainly for liability. And if you think you might get sued you would need to have liability insurance, and you would put your company into an LLC. So that if you're a master tenant, the the you're you're leasing the property, and then you're subleasing out the booths. You're potentially liable for stuff that happens in that booth. Somebody gets hurt falls out of a chair breaks their leg. Whatever all that kind of stuff. Now insurance would cover most of that. But if you want to make sure that that the LLC is not helpful for taxes. It does add extra paperwork to operating your life. But if you wanted to, you know, just open the thing into an LLC, that's fine. It keeps everything real separate and clean. You run. All your, you know, all your deposits, go into that checking account all your expenses that are business come out of that checking account, you don't get you don't buy groceries out of your business account, you keep everything separate and get set up. So for that purpose it helps you kind of have structural way of handling things. But it's not necessarily spend a bunch of money on a brand new startup idea to do an LLC every time and all these people run around telling about all the tax breaks. There's not any. I mean, there's not any L one hundred percent pass through whatever you have is a loss. Whatever you have is a gain. It all comes through rat onto your return. I just finished my taxes and threw up this week threw up cried how to fit when into depression and came back out and all in one meeting, but. But I got a bunch of LLC's and on Mon real estate that kind of stuff. A lot of our companies are set up with different versions of LLC's around them and so forth. And so it's all about just risk management isn't only thing they're good for. And so you don't you don't save anything on taxes? But it's an okay idea to do that in that case Rix on Twitter. My wife's a stay at home. Mom, but as a 4._0._1._K left from our previous employer. What should we do with that? We always recommend Rick. You get with a Smartvestor pro. Click Smartvestor at daveramsey dot com, and you roll any kind of retirement that you have that you can move lump-sum pension IRA's or one gives them the 4._0._1._K's for threes. Always roll it direct transfer to an IRA, and I recommend and I personally invest in or types of growth stock mutual funds with that rollover growth, broken income, aggressive growth, and international ready to do. Some investing like that of any kind Smartvestor at daveramsey dot com. Billing information, it'll let you see the list of people we recommend in your area. This is the Dave Ramsey show. Sure that it James one twenty five, but whoever looks intently into the perfect law that gives freedom and continues in it not forgetting what they've heard but doing it. They will be blessed in what they do. My friend. Stephen Fertig says great moves of God are usually preceded by simple acts of obedience. Matt is with us in Denver. Hey, Matt welcome to the Dave Ramsey show. Hey, dave. How are you today? Better than I deserve. What's up? Good cerebral. I just started looking into all your stuff and started about four months ago paid off about ten thousand dollars of thirty thirty five thousand dollars in debt, which was consumer stuff. So well my way but back in June bought a house with my father as an investment mostly for him. It's a brand new house up here in Denver. And we ran all the bedrooms individually Casto's really really well. But I'm on the mortgage where that falls in the plan, and what the recommendations are. Well, what are you going to do? What's the long term play on the property? Long-term play is my dad's gonna buy out my share the house and take it solely on his own. And probably at that point just rented out of the whole house to a family as opposed to room to room, which substantially touch the cash flow, and he would refinance and get the mortgage out of your name. Exactly. Yeah. Okay. Do we have a time line on that probably about two years more years? All right. Well, what I would tell you is is that that's I mean, you're sitting there with mortgage debt on a rental property. And and it sounds like you're not running the property. It sounds like he's running it. I manage day to day. Okay. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I'm the live in property manager. Basically, I live in proper and you live in I live in the master bedroom. I also pay brands as part of being sort of a combo tenant manager. Okay. Right. You're paying rent and the mortgage is yours, and you're managing everything. What did he put into this? He put in the down payment was about one hundred thousand and then we spend another sixty finishing the basement to its own apartment unit and another about twenty into the putting in the landscaping because that wasn't included with new build. Okay. Okay. And and so he put in a couple of hundred grand. About one hundred eighty. Yeah. Okay. And why did he not put the property in his name? It's in both of our names. But he's and you're you're both on the mortgage. Yeah, we're both on the mortgage. Yeah. So this was supposed to be a blessing to you. No only sort of supposed to benefit some from the monthly cash 'cause I get a portion of that a management fee for managing the day to day. And then when when you know, if if we decide to sell it instead of keeping his portfolio than when we sell it or when he refinances and gets me off, and I'll take percentage of appreciation. But the way things are looking unable to get them more by himself. We didn't even try to get it by that wasn't that wasn't we tried. He was just trying to make sure you were hooked into the deal. Yeah. It's the only way that cash on this place makes sense is room to room really at the purchase price. And that's that was kind of the whole goal from the Geico was we could make a whole lot more cash flow warranting each room individually that well, here's what I would. Here's what I would do. I would just say that appreciate this deal. And you were helping me out by doing this deal, and the the sooner we can move this off of my name, and let's make other arrangements. The better it's working right now. I mean, we can do it for a little while longer. But we talked about originally, you know, maximum of two years, and you know, I actually think I wanna letter from that the the two of you agreeing that you're going to refit he's going to refinance and get you off this within two years. Yeah. I I don't think there's anything bad going to happen. I don't I don't I don't predict a bad situation. But what I do run into with these kinds of deals is you end up two years from now having one memory of it, and he has another memory, and this is how relationships get strained. And so while the deal is still fresh in everybody's mind. Make sure let's have it in. Let's just write it down these like term sheet deal sheet. That's all it is. It's not like not even a binding contract. But it's just to remind everybody what it says that at the end of two years he's going to refinance and put it into his name or we're going to sell it on the two. But that way, you're not in this situation for a decade because that was never your plan. Okay. That's exactly what I would do. Hey, thanks for the call. Chris is with us in Salt Lake City. Hi, chris. How are you? Dave stick my call. Sure. How can I help? Hey, got a question curious about my options, and what the future could hold. I've got a rental property that has about sixty thousand inequity, and I'm curious if I were to sell that. Now, you have debts and then help refinance my current my primary residence to get into a fifteen year fixed with f you better or is it better maybe hold onto it as kind of a long-term investment property for retirement. Okay. How much do you have not counting the real estate? Not counting real estate. We have ten thousand three hundred dollars for a family loan that has no interest. And then we have a car loan for seventeen thousand seven forty nine dollars. And what's your household income about eighty five? Well, actually, it's more about one ten a year. Well, you ought to Bill pay off twenty seven fairly quickly making one ten. Would you agree agree? Yes. Yeah. Born plan. Okay. In twelve months, you ought to be debt free. And so you don't need to sell the condo in order to get out of that debt. What's your personal residence mortgage balance three hundred forty thousand dollars? Okay. And what is it? What is it worth probably around four ten right now. Okay. And what's the interest rate on it? Four point seven five. I don't think you refinance that mortgage you might. But I mean, you might be looking at saving a half a point you might you might get for four three quarters of a point. But you don't need to refinance to get from thirty to fifteen you just pay a thirty Leica fifteen and it refinances, so. I mean it pays off in fifteen done refinance. But you can you can pay a thirty year mortgage off of fifty if you pay fifteen year payments or than thirty payments. That's all I'm saying, and so you can calculate that start working towards that. After you get your debts paid off and get your emergency fund in place. I think I hear you kinda like the condo in terms of owning it and the long term play on it. You were just willing to sacrifice it in order to win. If that was what winning looks like is that what I heard. Yeah. I was just nailed it on the head. I'm more. Here's if it's more beneficial to hold onto it or two if you'll scratch, and claw and fight through the twenty seven thousand a year and get your emergency fund in place, and then start paying your regular mortgage like of fifteen then you're next baby steps, what's the balance on the condo. One hundred twenty one thousand okay. Yeah. Then you're next baby. Step in baby step six year, working four five and six putting money into retirement kid's college or throwing money at the house. You can either throw it towards your home and get your home paid off hordes condo get paid off. Either one's fine since the condo. Smaller? Either one's fine. If the conduct was about the same amount, I'd say pay your house off I but it's it's one third the mortgage that yours is. So you could not get out pretty quick. And then when that's paid off. Of course that helps the cash flow, and then we use all of that and pointed at your house and get your house paid off. I think if you continue to make the kind of money you're making and you continue to be very diligent clearing debts one at a time. Systematically, like we teach that you're going to be fine that I might just it would be seven to ten years your hundred percent debt free. And in that case, I'm probably holding this condo. If it's a good rental property. It's going up in value. It's easy to rent. You're not, you know, having trouble being a landlord that kind of stuff. I like real estate. I I just don't want real estate to own you. And and. It needs to be an ideal situation in order to hold in these kinds of cases. But this is this is ideal in that not that we're hanging around with the debt not going to buy any more until we get these debts cleaned up anything like that. But I'm gonna work through this. 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Jason Beem Horse Racing Podcast 3/23/20--Weekend Recap

The Jason Beem Horse Racing Podcast

42:58 min | 1 year ago

Jason Beem Horse Racing Podcast 3/23/20--Weekend Recap

"Maximum security has been defeated king for a day. This is the Jason Beam. Horseracing podcast brought to you by twin. Spires your daily home for Horse Racing News interviews wagering discussions and more. Here's your host. Jason be good Monday morning. All welcome in the Jason. Being horse racing podcast brought to you by twin spires. Monday march the twenty third. We're still here still here all of us because I mean if you're listening you're still here and I'm talking I'm still here but Happy to be with you guys. Hope everybody's weekend went. Okay the the weird thing in all of this is is time like Saturday and Friday. No real different than Thursday and Wednesday other than heavy job responsibilities but when your job for at least in my cases working from home it's like it just every dick gotta feels the same now which is not the most fun thing but I had a great day Friday. I went out and took a walk in a park couple miles away around the lake. I did a little youtube video of it just as you know again looking for things to do is far in my free time as far as creative or or fun stuff and so it was nice to get out and walk around at turn twitter off for the day. I noticed that was probably my best emotional feeling day since this whole thing is really started in gotten very very serious. Thursday was probably my worst day when I finished the show. I think some of it was just knowing that I had you know. Forty eight hours of kind of dead time. Even though I knew Saturday I didn't actually. I shouldn't say I knew Saturday. There was good racing. I there was scheduled racing. We're GONNA talk about all the racing from Saturday and all of the news in the world of horse racing. That again just keeps coming at US every day. There's something new being canceled being changed. Or what have you so? We'll try to keep up as much as we can. But yeah Thursday when I left the House after upload those show and I'm like okay it's the weekend and usually Thursday night. I'll try to go out for dinner. Just get out of the House and go do some but kind of limited to to what we can do right now so took my walk and I found myself getting real sad like just in the sense of. There's such an overwhelming feeling in cloud over the world right now in a lot of that is the unknown and a lot of it is the fact that we know that tons and tons of people are going to have died or are going to get really sick and everybody's a little bit scared. Some people aren't scared there. There's people that show on the news that are basically disobeying every recommended way to dissipate this whole thing faster. And that's absolutely infuriating. Tried to do your best. I mean my only ventures out to the park where I'm by myself. Nobody's within fifty feet of me at any time and and to the grocery store which I went at six in the morning the other day so that way you know I thought it would be pretty uncrowded. There was probably twenty five or thirty people in the store it was. It was busy by any sense but you could tell there the rest of them were of in the same boat as me like trying to get in and out and doing a squeeze you can sanitize your hands the second you get out of there and wash your hands the second you get home. I mean it's just it's not a great way to live but how gotta live right now and I just hope you guys are all doing okay. As I said as long as they'll let me I will be here doing a show. We have scheduled for this week as I said last week. It's probably going to be a little bit day to day because of everything that's happening happening so fast guests are obviously their lives are a little more. They can't really plan too many days in advance. So I'm going to kind of try to book to show just the day before day before kind of thing. Marquette is GonNa Join US tomorrow trainer. We've had on the show several times. He had a nice win on Saturday. We'll talk about that and some of his other horses. He's training data Gulfstream. It Kinda WanNa just talk about what racing like down there. What training is like down? There is they've continued to race in south Florida. And of course Florida Derby weekend coming up next weekend fairgrounds ended their season after Louisiana Derby and New Orleans. It's kind of become a when I say a hotspot corona thing. I feel like every place is going to be a hot spot. It's just that some of them. Are you know happening sooner than later? Seattle obviously was kind of the first epicenter and so that's why it's viewed as a hospital. I think a lot of places are going to catch up as we get going here. But in fact that's happened with with California and New York and all that kind of stuff and you probably don't WanNa hear as much about this stuff so I probably should talk but I think my approach to covering it is more so covering it in how it affects horse racing and In our little world but curious to talk to mark about what's how it's been working down at Gulfstream Park the procedures that have been put in place and just kind of his life as a thoroughbred trainer and a small business owner with employees throughout this this pandemic so marquette will join us tomorrow. We're supposed to have this. This is kind of the Asterix because I asked a person who is a general manager a pretty large race track come on the show and he said that he would be happy to however he would have to get back to me Monday because to quote him. Everything's changing every other minute. So he goes he goes. I'd be delighted to. I hope I can and and let me just give back to you Monday. So we'll hope that that's on the schedule for Wednesday. I've met this gentleman a couple times. Have a good respect for him as someone who runs a race track and is running attracted still running right now so I thought it would be interesting to to kind of touch on that experience and what it's like haven't done anything yet for horse player. Thursday I do think it would be nice to go back to. Maybe a little bit of a more traditional Horse Player. Thursday in the sense of you know maybe maybe talk to just a horse player interview them about their life in the game and all that kind of stuff as opposed to you know maybe a specific one for Florida Derby Day but Florida Derby and by the way. It was announced that the Florida Derby Day. Purses were slashed. A fair bit with no money coming in from the casino and no on-track handled Gulfstream lower. The Florida Derby purse to seven hundred fifty. I think it was and a couple of the UNDERCARD stakes as well. But it's still going to be a big card so we'll certainly talk about it more as we go throughout the week and our buddies and the jury will continue to to check in with us. So that's kind of where we're at right now for this This Monday show. I said have not heard anything from from the. What's the word? I'm looking for corporate headquarters telling me to do anything other than what we're doing so I'm GonNa do that as long as the let me and happy to be here. It's it's made for a little bit of You know fun and something to do. I just read the idea of sitting around for for two months to enough and it sounds. It sounds very scary. But let's talk about Saturday which ended up being closing day Louisiana now Louisiana fairgrounds down New Orleans the Louisiana Derby signature race on the car. We talked all about the the four big races with Frank mcgaughey and Gary Palmesano last week and I was a bit surprised for the Derby itself for a few reasons one. I was surprised at wells by you. Went offers you three. To one favorite. I would have thought it would have been enforceable. Just because he's kind of been the consistent one. I thought silver state did not take much. Money ended up going off at seven to one. Royal Act at eight to one major fed who I kinda liked was eight to one and so little surprise wells by you went off that as not only favorite but I guess he wasn't that much of a favorite. He was fifty cents on the dollar lower than enforceable but not and not even because the morning line was higher on him. Because I truly thought that with over prospect or not running all that great behind the Daba. Maybe it's because it was in the middle and also figured I thought the pace would be somewhat decent but anyways let's take a listen back to John G Dooley's call of the Louisiana Derby from this past Saturday at the fairgrounds and they're off the transpires dot com. But we've got a derby twenty twenty and there's wells by you going toward the leaning four four roll Andrew Wells by you pass the stands. New York traffic every three sharecropper while actors also front rank and monitors looks position as they head toward the first turn bell money also part of this front wave by you who eats them into the clubhouse third wells. Bhai you dictate terms to money against the Rail New York traffic and in between Horses Chester town. Modernist is running wide as go to the back of the track with Tressler town now running in fifth sixth and seventh sharecroppers eighth when it's not been ninth comes enforceable. The lecompte winter in tenth was six months ago for the chucky has the backing track. Julian that Peru saving ground at the site is shake some action followed by Portos y Louisiana Bread Social Fleet and in the red. Major Fed is last of the fourteen. The quarter of twenty three point fifty six half final farewells value and a flat forty eight seconds with Laurent through the pilot wells by you continues to dictate them. Four furlongs from home. It's wells by you. Who LEADS NEW YORK TRAFFIC MAILMAN? Money third saving grounded both turns modernist in fourth and finally therefore junior Alvarado and they have three furlongs to go and wells by you. Mr Town fitting driven point on deterred enforce was picking up outside past boil. Act Up shake. Some action for the inside sharecropper followed by silver state wide. Major Fed. We'd throwback that intersocial fleet with Lynch mob Porto's Fourteenth Street into three quarters was one point forty to the longtime leader is wells by. You New York traffic drifts off that fine for long out from wells by you who's still finding rates by three hundred traffic bonuses. A one piece third major fed enforceable takes the inside but it's wells by you wells. Bu a New York traffic wells by Randall. Spins FIRES DOT COM? We janitor being again. This was just a head scratcher to be. I mean. Of course you look back at the program and you're like well you know well by force he's going to be prominent up on the early lead or at least be part of the mix and. I really thought New York traffic was going to go with them. I didn't think he had much of a choice other than that. I thought that lives map would have been a little bit more for the place and I thought modernist might try to go up there. I mean I know at an early point horses career. A lot of trainers are more than happy to kind of try to to learn lessons. Because you know they know that in the Kentucky Derby you're most likely not going to just be able to go coast up front unless you're just a total speed ball so you know maybe they wanna find out. Hey let's see if this horse can rate Especially one that maybe are like modernists. That's already won the fifty point. Maybe they wanna see you hit. Let's see if he can come from off the pace. Yes it's A. You know a a million dollar race yes. They're six hundred thousand dollars up for grabs for first but if he runs second or third and doesn't fires shot or whatever he liked to rate least we find that out now and not on the first Saturday in. May kind of thing so I get that. Maybe that's a reason they would take him back or take other horses back and it wasn't like wells by you was completely crawling but certainly not flying out just did it so comfortably and New York traffic second the entire way around and they were well clear if everybody. Nobody really made any kind of impression in this race at all. When they turned for home I was just like. Can't they really just let flatten? You know Brad Cox had a monster day and we'll talk about that and maybe Brad Cox being so hot and winning. It's such a huge percentage is just part of the reason the source took so much money. And you know looking back at you know. Of course every twenty twenty in hindsight right but I still just I. I don't I don't see it like I'm just like I mean I is numbers. Put Him as the top rated choice on prime power and yet you know staring me right in the face and I think I was just so not moved by the effort behind silver prospector. Because yes he dug in a little bit but he had everything is way up there and I know they went a little bit faster that day. But you know he's lightly raced. Brad Cox said is just killing them right now. He always does but seems like he's extra hot as of late but I still just. I was just a race where I was just not seeing it that way. I thought New York traffic would prove a little bit more of a nemesis early heated naughty kind of ran. The the body express race right like didn't didn't just sat second the entire way around behind a pretty good speed type horse. Picks up a ton of points where you get fifty points for finishing second in that race and Sir Forty or something like that and of course for years you finish first or second these top races and you get right in because of the uncertainty of the the new point system. We don't know what it's going to be. What new races are going to be added? You would think obviously that the horses that win these hundred preps will get it. I mean I would think that they would create the system. So there's no way that anybody who wins one of these one hundred point perhaps doesn't get in and and because so many tracks pushed there starts in the. Derby still knock on wood three months away for no five months away. What am I talking about? September fifth a long way from now and so. I know that everything is very uncertain in the in the near future. But there's a lot of time between now and then but I would think that if you went one hundred point race and probably if you finish second year you're having a good shot to get into the Kentucky Derby. I can't imagine that they'd add racist but who knows they might. This new system is is kind of unprecedented and New York. Traffic deserves credit for that. Second place run and I thought that Major Fan ran a pretty good one coming from as far back as he was I mean modernist. Who finished third was four throughout. I mean it really was kind of a merry go round. But was major fatty. Here's what I get caught up into these kind of horses. Was He just passing a lot of tired and not so great horses? I mean there's a lot of big long shot in there and there's a lot of horses that did no running that were done on the turn and you know if your horses died by the top of the stretch. You know you're not you know it's a long quarter mile and so is easy as I've gotten onto horses times where they were running at the end and they didn't get the setup you know you try to close into a race where nobody closed data but you know he's still was what five links winter for four three quarters off the winter so as much as I want to get excited and still like make your head. I don't know that I can't so I might have just put him in the winner's circle the Derby but but outside of that with enforceable kind of started to make his run and obviously got passed by major fed late but I still think he is an honest sword. I don't know if he's the kind I want to win the Derby. Or what have you? But I still think he's GonNa be okay as the year goes on and he puts it his run every time he was out very very wide in this race and so I didn't lose too much respect for him. I think he was kind of a good horse to play against on top in this spot and again I I know hindsight's twenty twenty. But you know he he kinda whenever you're closer like that be dirt or turf more so I think on dirt always have to get a little something to go your way and I guess too because you have to avoid traffic or swing wider. What have you so you're always a little susceptible to having what happened happened? Where the top couple? Just get out there. And they don't turn back. Throw up twenty fours and twenty four and two twenty two and twenty fives. And it's just hard to close in and catch horses like that that are still fresh and the distance of the racist to me kind of makes how it played out almost seem a little bit more predictable in the sense that. How many times have we seen longer races? Where they just you know. Everybody knows they're going a little bit further so they just hold hold. Hold hold hold. And next thing you know Florida's just taken the money and throwing it right. His back pocket. But he and Brad Cox team up for a big win. In the Louisiana Derby the fairgrounds oaks also sponsored by our good friends at twin. Spires heavy favoritism. Of course finite your one defy favourite and then cannabis slew of four horses between six to one nine two one. Bonnie south getting good support coming off the win at oaklawn temperatures rising who was fourth last time behind finite but did come running a little bit at nine to one into an Komo from Ecuador was seventy one and nine two one on stop shop and Tammy let's take a listen back to the oaks call from John Dewey. They're off any transpires DOT COM fairgrounds. Twenty twenty temperature's rising bobbled at the start there's French froze going right out till he them for Mitchell. Moral so French rose turns on the scene and leans stopshop Tammy and toward the Inside Is Antoinette. Ithaca Dolphin blue was right. That French Roses Hills as these three hundred phillies. Go to the back of the track. Finite fourth empoisoned here in the early stages. Then it's a break of three more to tempers. Rising was running second to the last handful. Roll Andrew Bonding South trails. The three Phillies sextet the opening quarter twenty four thirty seconds. It's French rose. Who Leans by three quarters as Corey? Monory has stepped up and. Tammy the gray right there with the front runner. French froze junior Alvarado Antoinette. His still keen up the inside. Ricardo Santana junior plotting his move with finite WHO's four. Thami outside or break a three and a half then to temporizing. He's being asked to pick up now a half mile from home by Julian Peru. Bonnie south remains last mile for French froze pumped by. Stop Shopping Timmy. In forty seven point nine thousand one they around the far turn stop shopping. Tammy outside of French froze and these two on even terms mid-point Dhamma turned booming for stop shopping. Tam Froze is finite. Who's coming now? Temperatures rising picking up outside of finite as they closed phillies ranks at the Quarter Pole Antoinette. Then Bonnie South outside three quarters of women at twelve point sixty six seconds finite test taking the lead a furlong out. Its financial leans tempers wising. Who's charging bonding? South is bearing down. They come pass the Sixteenth Bonnie south up to take the lead four full wrong jarrow and the twin spires dot com fairgrounds oaks. It's Bonnie South. Who Bounce home by two and a half peppers wising second and third at one to five finite finished so Bonnie south getting the upset win here I mean not not the hugest of odd six to one but I think in the scale of the pick fours and fives and everything as I said on. Friday night was going to be the place where the most people I think. Parked their you know their fate because it was pretty impressive winning last time out. Beat a couple of these and of course beat British shitty now body south. Interestingly enough the maiden breaker was not a maiden breaker was second beaten for that day Oh Serafina beater by four and. I don't see any kind of trouble marks in the past performance I could go back and watch the replay. But I'M NOT GONNA I'm guessing. It was one of the Joe Joe. Sharp forces who got disqualified after the fact for overages but regardless came back with a nice closing one last time and was able to kind of replicate it. I mean it was way back early on you know seven or eight lengths behind and just kind of stormed home. What was really interesting to me was finite I thought was kind of in a in a good spot for Santana early on and as they came around to the quarter pole got a little bit of pressure for God. Who Was it was tempers? Rising can looped up right alongside and Kinda was and they turned into the stretch. They were kind of near level and then all of a sudden finite took off. I mean finding it really got into the bit at the top of the stretch looked for a split second at least to me that she was going to win and shortly after that her kick was very short lived. And I don't know if it's the distance I don't know if it's just hey you know. Maybe she ran her best race last time. I don't know if it's maybe she's just not the head good. These are all things that you get to debate as a handicapper but if you watch she kicks away for a split second and kind of looks like she's going to go on with it and then about the poll just starts breathing fire and here comes. Temperatures rising and here comes Bonnie South and they just blow right on by and finite ended up getting beaten for for third and had to settle for fourth place. Money so interesting race to watch and again Brad Cox. It just continues to light up and we'll say his name again in the next race. 'cause Muniz memorial on the grass and still regard ended up going off from a five to one morning line as your favourite Chad Brown. No no surprises here. You know we talked about that on the roundtable. We thought this one would go off at short price but ended up going off a two one. Synchrony of course the fairgrounds favored at seventy two year. Second Choice Rock Emperor at five to one channel maker. Five when he got he seems to be four five six two one no matter where they wear he races. That's that's just what he's going to go off at. Let's take a listen back to the call to Mervyn. Menas think running on the outside for Joe Bravo fellow by Bundy Brunen and after breaking really really slow dot matrix trails after the nine along starts the quarter at twenty three point forty nine. They left the half-mile pole behind in forty seven point. Ninety four to the far side of the fairgrounds course factor this continues to lead Marceau but now with three furlongs to go factor this by a half to three quarters tomorrow. Don't blame bucket. Dhakhwa PHOBIA Secretary of war. Channel makers wide factor this at the turn in hemmings joins still regard then Buck Emperor. Synchrony leads to their bunny. Boonen Dot Matrix homeward bound. Three-quarters Money Levin Point forty-six factor. This fact that is driven by Sean. Bridgman gets those left-handers still leads by four. Don't play pocket between Horses Phobia on the outside is brought. Kemper Channel Maker of heals all the way factor this and I'm your nose memorial factor. This one by four don't play. Markets Second Buck Kemper Third Phobia. Fourth so factor. This basically exactly as he had done last time goes to the front in the fairgrounds. Last time he was second early on in the Colonel Bradley kind of one paste. That was the day that don't rocket had that perfect trip. He was kind of battling early on but still Duggan held for third. Like hindsight him in the fairgrounds stake. Seems really like a logical bad after doing all that work in the race for the however this time it looked like there was going to be a little more pace. Well he just skipped right along after a couple of breaks and nobody else going with the Marzo who I kinda liked as a long shot at fifty five to one was sitting in the catbird seat. He just didn't he's just not quite with the rest of these. Don't blame rocket again. Found himself in a good spot which I kind of talked about potentially could happen in this race. But it's just hard to real in a loose Brad Cox source that might be the lesson from from Saturday's races. Fairgrounds is Brad Cox gets Lucy Property Win because it just seemed like those last three races. That's exactly what happened. The New Orleans stakes the final of the four big ones Fairgrounds or I should say it was actually the first of them but the final four. We're going to talk about Fearless the todd pletcher. I don't want to say unknown but you know steaks and this level unknown off as you're heavy favourite here silver desta ended up floating up a little bit to your third choice as by my standards back down to two one. Let's take a listen back to the call. The New Orleans. Several dust took the lead on the clubhouse turn and edged away to a two and a half length fleeing from my standards with inside fearless looking to draw in chess chief and the green cap is fourth tenfold. In fifth got it as a wide sixth won't seller covered up toward the inside fully by captivating moon senator remains last half mile fifty point zero nine seconds silver dust lates by my standards but now with inside three and four long ago chess chief being driven to gain from third fearless also comes under a ride to pick up silver dustin by my standards at the quarter pole together then comes gun. At captivating. Moon. Both sailer leans only senators. They straighten three quarters and blunt. Fourteen point thirty six by my standards has taken a lead into this final fairgrounds furlong lanes by three to chess. Chief tenfold between horses is fearless inside silver dust but by my standards close to home late. Move by kept of any moon. That chess chief. My standards has won the women's classic by four an emphatic win for by my standards who sat the perfect trip. I mean silver dust after kind of lunging at the start all of a sudden Russia's up to take the lowest price by the move but then when I saw the twenty five and two I for Action. I thought well maybe this is all bj. Hernandez shown them how it's done and you know but by my standards. Gabriel scientists his credit after breaking so sharply sober discos random. Just put him in the perfect spot on the outside and I mean very much looked the winter on the turn because he was inching into silver does just so nicely silver discounted for just a split second but in reality I mean. He was just by my standards just so much the best and a couple of captivating moon I gotta give a little shout to for running second in this race and Chris Black who we had on the show last you know. He hasn't had an amazing season. This year at fairgrounds three for forty. But he's he's always been a very solid barn at those kind of upper middle tier tracks. Arlington is focus of courses at Arlington. But he he can compete on these bigger stages sometimes and this horse he's only made twenty two starts but it seems like he's been around for quite a while but honest as they come. You know he's made almost getting towards half a million dollars now and just a very very NEAT NEAT RACEHORSE SHATTUCK. Captivating Moon for finishing second in their chess chief a big price jumping up from optional. Seventeen five races sedan Stewart with one of his patented huge longshot. Then run pretty well in a big race entries. I mean the horse made forty grand. You know it's the same as winning. Seventy five thousand dollar race so tenfold plugged on four th but I wanted to mention fearless fearless had. He had a little bit of he had some run coming into the stretch and he had to kind of wait and he really got closed off at the sixteenth pole. And that's what the comments focused on. But he didn't have room for quite a while and to me. It looked like he a little bit of run. And so you know it's pletcher and it's you know he's he's it was. He was a favourite and all that kind of stuff but If he does get a little bit overlooked because of sixth-place place finish in this race. Next time out he's one. I'm real interested in because I think he you know he's so lightly racist was just his third career start think he stood to gain some knowledge out of this race and I think he did and I thought he was still trying at the end till he kinda got sought off. So I I think one that's worth a look back In future races. Let's take a short time out. I should mention our Tau. One on Friday. I got a bunch of emails. Hey thanks for that horse. Missed a guy that was even my. I told you the worst would get a lot anytime a horse. I'm not that plugged in. I mean I I know a few people around. I've interviewed a lot of people on the show and I'm not like I'm not used on the backstretch. Maybe that's a bad term to use in light of last week's news. I'm not I'm not the guy people call when they say. J just want to tell you this but we're news of a horse like that gets around to me. You can bet that everybody knows it but Mr Guide looked. He looked apart and would not be surprised to see him. You know make the jump up to stakes competition. Next time. I know Mike Stems not necessarily wanting to hurt him and obviously with the Derby so far out he might not have to get. 'em HURRIED UP Of course yes. They're still tracks running and let me see as of today the tracks. I know that are supposed to run this week. And this is as of late. Sunday is hold on because Sam Houston canceled after a couple of races Saturday and then subsequently cancelled the entire card You know for for whatever that's worth but Charlestown took a little time off. But they're racing with no spectators fodders poster resumed today. Golden Gate and California. Continue on how long. We don't help Gulfstream continuing. On how long we don't know low sal again part of California oaklawn continues on obviously with Sean Payton News and all that I was a little surprised they kept on but we'll see remington still running without fans Santa Anita mentioned Tampa Bay downs continuing and turf way Only has one more weekend or is this it for turf way. I think they have one more. 'cause kilos supposed to start like the second right so yeah. I think fair Turquoise one more weekend in will rogers I think will rogers the only track today going. So if you're wanting some racing action by all means check out the the racing in North Eastern Oklahoma. I think it's a clear more. I think it's just outside of Tulsa little known fact what's offered that job little trivia for you. I remember the guy called me was the pre previous announcer and he said Hey What are you doing for the spring and summer and I was like I don't know and he said Hey. What about coming out here? I got this thing coming up. I'm not going to be able to do it anymore. That was I was kind of in the throes of my anxiety at that point and getting through the Portland meat which was just about over at that. Point was was already a challenge so I ended up passing on it but I always thought what could have been if I'd have been at all Claire Moore Oklahoma anyways. Let's so anyways. So that's what tracks we know as of now are are still running Sam. Houston fairgrounds both canceling. Their meets a little bit shorter. Paradise canceled their meat. Which was scheduled for about another six weeks? Indiana I saw had originally told horsemen. They need to leave now. It sounds like they're allowing them to stay So we I mean the training. I know that there's more important things in the world. The horse racing right now and I think that racing is trying to find a way as I'm sure. A lot of businesses are to kind of keep things moving weather. It's as racing and keeping handle going or even just as training to keep trainers training horses so owners are paying bills and also so when racist resume. There's horses to run because you know if we go through a prolonged period of three four five six seven weeks of no training. No nothing then. Not only is you know in another month. Minimum till horses are ready to race. I mean so. Now you're talking. You know really know racing until September October. So whereas forces are able to train safely Then when when racing is allowed to resume and I would guess that when racing does resume at first I would guess it probably with no spectators. I would think that will probably kind of ease back into things. I could be wrong. Maybe they'd just waited all the way out 'til everything's gone and we just rush right back into life but we'll certainly and I'm sure we'll see how other industries do it to the NBA Nhl. I mean they have seasons they WANNA finish. I imagine they're probably a little more urgent to get. The things than baseball is because baseball can just wait. And you know. Play half a season and then move forward if if they're fortunate enough to where everything gets reduced but let's take a short time. I would come back to talk about Gulfstream in Santa Anita and some of their racing action from the weekend. It's a weekend recap addition Jason Moore Racing. Podcast brought to you by these folks where you can wager on horse. Racing twin spires twin spires is your home for wagering on horse racing from all around the world sign up today and take advantage of our one hundred dollars. Sign up bonus when you wager. Five hundred dollars has a twin spires player. 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Of course it was Brad Cox Day at the fairgrounds but It would not be Brad Cox Day at Santa Anita and part of that is because I don't think he was running anything there but stakes action going out at the great race place. It's still. It's still kind of bizarre knowing that. There's nobody in the crowds at any of these places but like when you watch on TV. It just seems like or shrinks and it looks like a race you know what Santa Anita where they're going down the stretch and Yada Yada Yada but the San Simeon stakes grade three on the grass and the return of bound for nowhere. We haven't seen since October at Belmont. Wesley Ward Rainman. Dyke you're wanting to two favorite citron who I mentioned has found success as a dirt. Sprinter trying out the the grass which starts on the dirt. Maybe that was part of the what we call the Tim. Riff o course because it kind of came about when when writ fo was empowered but You know started out as a turf sprinter and was good but was you know. I've mentioned this many times on the show but I think it's important. Remember with turf sprints. There's very few big grade. One races out there other than the Breeders Cup it a couple of big ones in New York. So you're bigger. Races are often grade. Threes or seventy five hundred thousand dollar steaks and so- sister on while he was competing at Grade Three Allowance. You know listed stakes. He's running against conquests who Nami Haskell law-abiding citizen stormy liberal. I mean good good top level turf sprinters so you know. He made the switch to dirt and he did it so well. He won the grade. Tacona Goldie missed in the triple banned by a whisker in a race that you thought he had and then he wins the great one bing crosby so he switches over to the grass and they hammered out of nowhere down to one to two and they leave sister on at almost nine to four forty one. Let's take a listen back to the last little bit of the San Simeon approaching the quarter pole surrender now just drifting out of touch bound for nowhere comes to challenge citron to behind them in third than King of speed Voodoo Song. Murad Khan and Sparky Ville. There's a furlong left to go and bound for up to take the lead Brown. Takes up the chase outside. Surrender now than sparky bill between horses far outside. Murad Khan has takes off on the outside of bound for an hour knows that knows photo-finish close sisteron and bound for nowhere third between Murad Khan king of speed and Sparky Bill. So sisteron gets the score over bound for nowhere rallies from just off the pace to to get the win surrender now broke so so sharp and bound for nowhere did not break very well star at squeezed a little bit but rushed up and you know he's not an he's not usually an on the lead type usually right off the start. Very well could have made the difference. I mean he got beat ahead but I start coming off a little bit of a layoff. I think there's room for forgiveness and I think there's reason to think he can move forward off that one. But assist Ron and Victor Espinoza with an ice win capping off thirteen thousand six hundred dollar early. Pick five the early four racist two through five paid five hundred twenty bucks so you got about twenty six twenty five twenty six times more for the pick five than you did the pick four and the horse that you needed to get twenty five times. More was a six to one fifth choice. The field of nine so not the again. The lower takeout the extra multiplier the harder degree of difficulty the payouts on the pick five can just be awesome it and it was kind of one of those pick fives where there wasn't any huge upsets but you just kind of kept beaten favorites with horses. That were not necessarily like the first choice. It was kind of a wide open race a five the two morning line favorite and after the horse that won the fifth choice it went from six to one to twelve one thousand nine hundred one so. I'm sure not. Everybody had that horse but one that you could could see folks having the second leg you get a five to one but it's a five horsfield. You not only beat the big favourite three to five all live your Oliver Viera Oliver. You also beat the two one second choice Dr Door so yes to five to one. I think that five to one played really really big and the pick five again third ratio nine one shot in a small field fifth choice out of six with a pretty low price. Six to five favorites. So those two upsets played huge. Because the fourth leg you gotta three to one third choice but a logical include. I think or at least a horse. I'm sure play people had and then yes. You beat the big favourite on the end. I think it was paying. I think it was paying three grand bound for nowhere for the pick five so a lot of people obviously Took a stand there but again. No crazy upsets just horses that we're not easy to have in legs than I think. A lot of people went narrow. And you get back thirteen thousand bucks in the Saint Louis Ray. I thought it was going to be kind of Chaki two-horse Race Well Work Jerry and Oscar to me as ran. I third as coming out of Dell power after the big long shot. Second last time finished second again. Oscar Dominguez was some traffic trouble. I think not helping his cause he probably was the second best horse in that race but foreign full finish to that one and then data Gulfstream Park. It was pocket. Oh Saturday Paco. Had seven winners. When the Ortiz brother is our way Palko will play huge huge day for him and then in kind of fashion got taken down for you know drifting on a couple of guys on on Sunday so you know Paco Giveth and taketh away. Every one of the cool things about being at Monmouth last summer was working with Brad. Thomas and I used to love to listen to him talk about the jockeys and he would often talk about you know Paco Lopez. Some of the good decisions he makes during a race and how much he'll give you down the stretch. When he's in contention. One of those winners was on strike magic mechanic. Who Will Talk to mark tomorrow? So looking forward to catching up with him. But the fifth race on the CARD SORRY STAKES. Later on it was the fifth race was Senator. Got My notes backwards. The nitrates the melody of colors and hear my prayer compensate. I I kind of said these five furlong races at GP. I just think that you WANNA be close up and not be too wide etc etc and then sure enough the to that on my optics plot who were the front runners Weren't necessarily first and second early but they were first and third and finished first and second way way clear of everybody else. That was one of those ones that was like. Oh that looks like it. It made sense but it was here my prayer for David Fisher scoring and that one and then the Texas glitter it was Cajun cazenove and begin to ask us for Michael Pinot coming from off the pace catching arm and Joe. Who was the loose leader for Georgina? Baxter in midstretch was two and a half in front but just got nailed right on the money to take home the Texas glitter and then Taco won the twelfth and final for lunch. Which was it. I thought it was luke. I guess it was somebody else. Very SIMILAR SILKS. Lucia's strange but National honor pocketing the final. Jump to win five races on this Saturday at Gulfstream so and handle at Gulfstream for the Saturday. Eleven million of doing just under a million dollars race when they were kind of the third fiddle in terms of Big Days big races etc. So it's going to be interesting to watch. How handle is you know again racing? Yes it's kind of the only game in town right now but also be you know. I'm just unsure how many people are firing away with all the uncertainty in everything going on but I'm sure there I mean there's clearly play people who are are still playing if we're still handling tens of millions of dollars on these weekend cards but so again Marquette GonNa join us tomorrow supposed to be joined by track. General Manager on Wednesday told him if he can't I understand but we'll we'll try to get that done and look forward to the rest of the week being with you guys here like I said as long as they'll let me keep doing it We'll see you guys back tomorrow. Hope everybody's have doing okay. I know this is not an easy time for everybody I know. I found myself with varied emotions from great to sad too scared to you know. Thank for C. And everything in between so I always put my email address out on the show. Jason Charles Beam itchy mill dot com if anyone needs to email Whether it's horse racing related you know just needs to prevent or whatever you know how to get a hold of me trying to get back to everybody within a day or so but appreciate everybody tuning in. I mean we had you know I was. Kinda curious what the I didn't know that if everyone because a lot of our listeners. Listen in their car and so I know people and working from home so I kind of figured we'd have dip in our downloads and it was kind of the same as the week before which was very good so I appreciate everybody's still sticking with us in the happy to be providing content for everyone and look forward to talk with you guys tomorrow. Everybody have a good rest of your Monday.

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Weekend Stakes Preview Presented by NYRA Bets - August 21st 2020

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Weekend Stakes Preview Presented by NYRA Bets - August 21st 2020

"Welcome to the weekend stakes preview on the horse racing radio network presented by naira vets. With parole waiting for some racing room there at the top of the stretch, your guns raging bull bearing down in the center of the course, and he's up to battle for the lead with River Boyne War of will come through behind them without parole nowhere to go and raging bull is in complete command and he will stroll in the shoemaker mile wrapped up by Joel Rosario next shares ran an amazing race and without parole got out late to get the show behind them, it was a battle for the minors between River Boyne and of will now here's Anthony Stabile and Bobby Newman. Good evening everyone. Welcome to the weekend sticks preview presented by IRA bets here on the Horse Racing Radio Network, on the BA- gay Anthony. Be Up in Saratoga Bobby. Newman is down in south Florida producer. Lead Dela Pena back in our Lexington Kentucky Studios. Lots of steaks action. four-star David. Diana couple of grade. Ones over at Saratoga maximum security in the grade one Pacific Classic, a dozen steaks and all. Bobby an exciting weekend the racing is we are just fifteen days away from Kentucky Derby One forty six. and. This is the first weekend racing anthony that our focus has not been on the Derby but is really Looking at now and maybe breeders. Cup Ish. Line all the three year olds who were aiming for the Kentucky Oaks and the Kentucky Derby they've done all the work they're going to do before the first Friday and Saturday in September but the big races this weekend Saratoga del Mar Monmouth Woodbine. Lot of runners that we may see in those Breeders Cup races November, sixth seventh at. Keeneland. Yeah lots of action. We start to look ahead to not only next to triple crown like bobby said, but also to. The Breeders Cup. World Championships which you will hear right here on the Horse Racing Radio Network Right? We got lots going on this weekend, and the first thing is we have a brand new promo code for you. So an Arab that's dot com open new accounts the Promo Code Is. Twenty five, it'll be good for a few weeks. And you'll get a free twenty, five dollars bet from Nyerere bets just by signing up, they also have the deposit match hundred bucks four star Dave to the Pacific classic world-class rates across the country and I are bets has you covered again. Hr in twenty-five the Promo Code, society put a new account and get a free twenty I'll bet from naira bets. While you're at it take advantage of the bankroll builder at Naira Bet simply that at least fifty dollars to win on your selection in tomorrow's four-star Dave and win or lose, you'll get twenty dollars back in your account on Thursday September third US love you like but it is a derby bankroll building. So it will be in your account just in time for oaks and Derby one, forty six. There's a cross country, pick five on Saturday, and this is a long one that lasts about six hours. It's race five Saratoga that goes off a three, twenty eight. Then, it's all stakes race nine Saratoga to four star. Dave. Re Seven delmore that goes off at eight o'clock race nine, del Mar goes off at nine o'clock. Pacific classic wraps it operates ten at nine thirty. So head over to Nairobi Dot Com to take a look. That's not enough on Sunday mandatory payout of the Empire six here at Saratoga. There was four, hundred thousand and change own into the carryover over on. Friday. So figure, it'll be Around there over a half, a million on Sunday plus the new money empire six mandatory payout this Sunday, the final one presumably will be closing. Labor Day September seven all right, we all the housekeeping out of the way. Let's get to the action. The grade one, four star Dave kicks things off. It goes race nine on the ten race car tomorrow. Field of nine Chad Brown has four of them. He has the one raging bull who was Second in this race last year, he has the six who was third in this race last year he has the seven valid twenty one, the grade, one secretary last year, and as the eight without parole still looking for his first US victory. And he certainly looks like he's going to have the big say in the outcome hair may be a question of whether or not he runs one, two three in this race I think raging bull is the best of the runners in the race and it seems like Jockey Joel Rosario thinks the same way because it seems like he would have had his choice between. Raging Bull Oni and he chose raging bull who was coming off a defeat in maker's Mark Mile. At last time out. In fact, he's lost both of his races a keeneland which doesn't affect him going into the race tomorrow but it could affect when we look at him in the Breeders Cup Mile, which presumably, he will be pointed to a few months from now. But I think raging bull is better in New York than he is at keeneland he's never been worse than second three tries Saratoga. Obviously likes it there and I think his best race is simply put are too good for this field. There's not a whole lot of speed in this race anthony that's a little bit of a concern maybe number five holiday being the only speed in the field I don't think Halliday is nearly as good or nearly as talented yet as raging bull I. think he could take them a long way. So fine playing this race playing raging bull on top and I'm probably trying to get Halliday to be underneath somewhere in the exotics. Okay, that's fair. Enough I have a feeling. Got Storm is going to be aggressively ridden tomorrow and I have a funny feeling. Tyler Gaffney on Jim McKee Park close to the pace. We'll see they've been trying last starts it hasn't worked yet I would be surprised. They actually trying to kill row as well. Maybe trying to change things up a little off the pace in fear of getting into a speed some like it hot brown who wound up wiring Brookfield. So maybe Luiz is takes matters into his own hands and just tries to go wire-to-wire. I. Like everything you said about raging bull with that said. I think Oni. Needed that race desperately last time in the just a game behind stablemate newspaper of record Bull recall was second that day she loves this distance she's run wild Saratoga. Joel seemingly picked raging bull. She gets a more than capable replacement in. Jose Ortiz. And I think he's going to get the money on Saturday Oni and raging bull a little without parole for me as well. Six one eight. Top pick only Saturday is the greed one, four star Dave will return to Saratoga later on in the program for that. Grade. One die and a down the shore Monmouth Park read three Philip is land. Is it a mile sixteenth? On the main track. Got A field of six in here mind-control to try to stretch out after a third place finish the volatile in the grade one vanderbilt here at the SPA. Warriors Charge for Brad. Cox takes a big drop in class after trying the great one mile just to links behind coma and that effort and Belle harbor. Cuts Back Sixteen, the Vermeil. Tries to. Improve office second-place finish event last year. The morning line favorite is number two warriors charge and I disagree with that favorite I don't think he should be favored in this race This is a horse who Iran well in the met mile in the met mile. Let's face it face coma the coma was in this race. He would be about two five. He was only beaten two lengths that day by coma but warriors charge is best in my opinion when he's on a clear easy. Lead and I don't know if that's going to happen in Islam with pirates punch drawn just to his outside they both have very similar running styles where they really do their best running on or near the lead. So I think they're going to be taking it out and it will play right into the hands of both bowel harbor and mind control. Those are the two that I would use in the spot I favor bowel harbor just a little bit. He's never been off the board in five career tries at Monmouth. Last time out ran a good race in a tougher grade three field. In my opinion, the Monmouth Monmouth Cup them what he's going to see in the is Lynn rain running behind global campaign. And math wizard. He actually made a winning move that day and just Kinda got run over down the stretch that race was at a mile and an eighth shortening up to a mile and a sixteenth drawn inside where he was outside going further last time out I think things are in his favor on Saturday. So I'll put bowel harbor on top and I think mind control is a logical one to us with him as well. He's been more of a sprinter lately than a router. In fact, he's never been more than a mile but I I don't think distance is going to hurt this source in these one for one at Monmouth. Yeah you've run well. Brokers main. At monmouth philmont mistaken and. Yeah. Wreck Sakho has a powerful one two punch in here. I know warriors charge looks like he's GonNa get himself involved in a little bit of a pay stolen here. I do believe he's fast enough to get in front of these sources. I know pirates punch has some gas but I think he's fascinating pirates punch. He has a very aggressive rider pokka, Lopez I. This just think warriors charge is a little bit better. than. These sources and I'M GONNA. Hope he just bottoms them out on the front end. You make a good case for Belle harbor. I'm not certain on control wants more than sprint distances. Even at that mile when he won the jerome really didn't beat much Gotham me of a tough trip but. Only. How far he wants to go All the chalk warriors charge from reese five goes as the great three is Lynn Race. That wraps up mom I should say out of del Mar five stakes on Saturday we'll kick things off and race three, the rain flash the great three, five furlongs on the turf. Field of South Dakota Post. And this race where there's tons of speed as you'd expect in this five furlong turf affair, none of the. Front runners are any faster than the one drawn outside number eight. Mike's Tis now offer trainer Andy Mathis who's won three races in a row on the turf at. Golden. Gate. So if I if anything I think he's going to bother the other horses or disrupt the other horses who nor. Themselves on or near the lead I'm going to try somebody who figures to come from well out of it. In fact, he may be in the back of the pack of not last in the early going, and that is number five masseuse for Karla gains and leading rider Flavian Pratt tried to mile last time out and was only beaten a length and a half that day by Dan law was it was a good effort. But his sprint races to me are even better than his route races, I the biggest question I have with Masud is the five furlongs may just simply not be long enough for him to get there but I think he will be flying late and I think the pace will set it up for him six to one on the morning line I'm going to try and miss suit in the. Green. Flash. Along the same lines I'm going to try chaos theory who? Banged around the East Coast. Turf sprints the Shaker town just got a couple of months IMPRIMIS This was last year nineteen just beaten forelegs by world of trouble Just, to time just two races this year, it was claimed that her last race by trainer John Sadler who will hear from tomorrow morning on the form Mike Panel. Source took advantage of Contended pace wasn't that fast fiscal faster and here tomorrow I think chaos theory and Umberto. Fast Work Tab out in. So Cal I think this horse come running and take advantage of a little bit of a pace meltdown you know and I will take number seven chaos theory. In race number three, the green flash. All right. We'll take offers break. When we come back, we'll bring you the blood horse news update and we will stay where the turf meets the surf. Domo for more stakes action listening to the weekend stakes preview presented by Nyerere bets here on HR in. That and locked the races worldwide from the palm of your hand with Nyra bets sign up for Nyra bets today and take advantage of premier perks with the best live racing minster replays in hd exclusive promotions and earn points on every bet sign up. Today with the Promo, Code H RN twenty, and under deposit match bonus of up to two hundred dollars again, that's H. R. N. twenty. With Nyerere batch. 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These next three races we'll talk about it del Mar Two of the next three will be in that cross country five we have to kick things off Torrey Pines though And that is for the phillies for year olds Flat Mile Hundred, thousand dollars on the line, and as you would expect what a race like this Bob Baffert as a strong handy as provocation who was good looking debut win a second secret keeper and Meredith thirds the secret keeper they're both. Here. This is an interesting group harvest moon for Simon. Callaghan you two to one morning line favorite daughter. Funchal Mall is undefeated in our turf starch after giving beat on debut. On the grass. And it's a good race. Because, there are several different ways you can go in here and I think the pace is going to be pretty fast not only are both Baffert phillies provocation beneath very quick early on but number one page Dan. I figured would show speed down from that inside post. So it it could play into the hands of somebody who can pass other runners. You mentioned that race on July twenty fifth where it came secret keeper moonies provocation provocation was actually favored that day at three to tumor neath was just a barely behind her in the wagering at eight to. Five and secret keeper. The winner of the race was the third choice at three to one. You may actually get three to one once again on secret keeper and I think she's got the right running style for the way that this race takes shape. Now she's only been sprinting thus far in her career win at five and a half furlongs in her debut when it's six and a half furlongs in that. Apple. Muench race on. July twenty fifth. But she's by intimacy out of a candy Reid mayor intimacy of Good sprinting or routing candy rides. I would think might even be better routing. Then going around one turn. I liked the way she did it in both of those races coming from a little bit off the pace and I think she's going to get the same type of trip. She's seven two on the morning line. She may actually be close to seven to two in the wagering and I think that's good. Enough I'M GONNA put secret keeper on top and see if she can stay undefeated. Yes she. She's been good. To. Efforts complete efforts with that pedigree. The -struction, we a problem. This is the kind of race where if you're playing this race vertically or if you're if you're using this, if you're reading this race in the pick foreign to pick five. You're using her you're probably not letting harvest moon beat you. Provocation kind of along the same lines and intimacy schiff out of a lake. Mary. Really thinking she's not going to stretch. You probably want spread around a little bit if you're GonNa play the race vertically. I, think she's the only one you kind of can play harvest moon is going to be too short. And provocation. Has Enough questions after that last effort. where she's the only one of the rely on the wind pool or if you plan exactly. So kind of found the same horses Ulan secret keeper I don't think. I'm as. Excited about her as you are but I, she'd be my top pick in a race that I think three or four of them can win secret keeper for me as well. Race for goes as the greed three Torrey Pines later on the card stakes action picks up in race number seven, the del Mar handicap is a mile and three eighths. On the turf. They'll start the three turn resuls thought on the far turn. Big Field Got a field of eleven and you know what it's. Probably the race. that. Is going to feature I would think. The second biggest favorite of the weekend and that's United He's very little wrong at Delmar when done very little wrong. Really in the last year and a half and Richard Mandela's denigrate job another Mendeleev a little quiet bobby out at delmar right now does that bother you even with a horse? The magnitude of United? Well. Being that united is one of only two winners that. Mr Mandell has had at del Mar. It doesn't bother me as much because whatever. Whatever the rest of the barn is doing it. It didn't affect united last time out wanting one the read and it probably won't affect them in the del Mar Handicap. The things that you like about united are the things that you also don't like about unite. For one thing he just seems to run well every time and he wins a lot of racist but his Windsor never flashy. It's not like he's blowing the doors off fields. He's getting to win by a nose. He's grinding away to win by half a length, but it always runs good races. He's a horse that you know. I seemed kind of always end up picking but I'm always looking to try to beat it just you know what? I'm trying to figure out who I can use to beat them. It doesn't seem you know they're more negatives than positives about these other horses and united is going to have a good trip again on Saturday, there's not a lot of speed in this race but that doesn't bother united because he's a reversal runner he can lay real close to the pace or he can come from ten or twelve lengths out of it and still run. Well, he's run. Well at these extended distances he has two wins a second from three career tries on the turf at Delmar drawn down to the inside with that short run to the first of three turns. He's eight to five on the morning line. There's no chance he's going to be eight to five. He looks like he's four to five in this spot and probably should be. And I'M GONNA pick them on top but I'm not gonNA single in my horizontal plays. I'm going to also use number ten originator who's had the misfortune of running behind. United. The last two times he's raced. He was only half a length behind him in the Charlie Whittingham. In May at Santa Anita was a two lengths behind him. Last time out in the Eddie read, he didn't really have the best of trips. He was kind of in and amongst horses that day and I start off a little bit of a layoff I. Think he's capable of better I. Don't know if he can beat united, but I think he's the best chance of beating united. So I'M GONNA use both of them. Yeah I. Can't get past the united. There's an interesting horse in the though for me and it's a six. Proud. Pedro for trainer Lenny Powell Juan. Hernandez Sources, run. Two. Times. Beyond. A mile and an eighth. He won his Ahah it ended a mile and a quarter. He wants to then the mile and three eighths, and it may simply be a game of real estate when it comes to proud Pedro. He's going to be a price too. So you know like you said United I think is the kind of horse you're always thinking well, maybe we could beat them today the problem with trying to beat United I think is versatility like you. You know. So eloquently said, he doesn't have to he can beat you from ten off the lead. I mean. If you if you woke up tomorrow morning and big buzz was scratched let's say fog. They scratched big buzz. He could be in front here. He really could rail, draw mile and three. H three turns. I could see practice putting them on a leaf. So. Yeah. It's hard to beat horses like that because. You whatever you throw at them they have an answer. But this proud page I think is the worst that can maybe. Four you know he's still got his career ahead of I'm I'm thinking maybe he's the kind of horse that if he takes the if it's just about. Real estate with him maybe he could spice up the exotic. So I I will make an early this elite pick five that starts here. I'll use a ticket with both of them and try and get the bigger price, but it's to pick against united. He's going to be the favorite in the greed to del Mar. Handicap wrap this segment in. Rate with race number nine, the del Mar oaks grade one mile, and eight out of the Chute on the Turfan boy lars light they don't come. Much more consistent that her she's one. Five and I seven tries one one of two starts at del Mar She's the three to one luke warm favourite field of eleven I think she'll be shorter than the free to one as well. All she. Well, she's hasn't been higher than five to two in any of her last five starts in fact, and and six of her seven career tries she's been five to two or less. She's bed almost every time and she runs well, almost every time. She did win at a mile and an eighth in the grade three honeymoon at Santa. Anita the end of May despite that I'm not convinced that a Mile Island eighth is her best distance I. Think she may actually be more of a mile type that was just good enough to win that day two, mylan eight I'm going to use her but. The philly I'm GonNa pick on top is kind of the unknown Philly and that is number eight Nev- Blanche. For Leonard Powell floppy and Pratt deleting rider is aboard. This three year old who has been racing exclusively in France was good enough to win a group three race in France in her last race I know it was only a short field of five. But still she won a group three effort, and usually if you can win group three races in France, you can be very competitive in graded races in the. States, I know this is a great one but I I can't imagine you know there's not really much difference this time of year when you get to grade one grade, three turf events for the three year olds in the three year old fillies specifically. So I'm used blanched put her on top, but I would use Laura's light as well in horizontal wagers. On using a mix extra using edge plonked but I'm picking Laura's light and then she's going to get the job done. She'll suggest off the pace like she normally does and he'll get the money. She's such a consistent Philly I'm not going to try and get in her way with the two euros your topic eight Nash Blondes in the four other three rather miss extra make some sense to me. Recently benign goes is the great one del Mar oaks take a break come back route the Saturday coverage with the grade one Pacific classic and maximum security you're listening to the weekend stakes preview presented by naira bats here on HR in. And watch the races worldwide from the palm of your hand with. NYRA. Bets sign up for Nyra bets today and take advantage of from your purse with the best live racing misery replays in hd exclusive promotions and earn points on every bet sign up for today with the Promo Code? H. RN twenty deposit match bonus up to two hundred dollars again that's h. r. n. twenty with Nyerere Bet. You can any track anywhere at anytime head over to an IRA best dot. com. 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Is jokey Julian Lopo and you're listening to. This is the weekend stakes freeview presented by naira bets maximum security, and Spun to run one tail as they come for the top of the strategy looking at mckinney's third and on the inside Bowel harbor is four three quarters went in one eleven and they're in the strategy maximum security has a lake played respond to Rod. Now, maximum security opens up in front by three. Running second to Timor on the outside and third and maximum security is put the exclamation point on his three role season he smoked them in the cigar mile maximum security respond to run thank shree timber looking at the gate as. John Embryo on the call of the Cigar Mile. Maximum security got the job done back in December. See if he can keep on going. Out At del Mar on his second start for Hall of Famer Bob Baffert in the grade one Pacific classics. Welcome classic welcome back to the weekend stakes preview presented by bets here on H.. R. R. N. lots going on. We gotta do Promo Code for you. If you open up a brand new account, it's HR in twenty five you get a free twenty dollar bet. Courtesy of Nyerere Bets Dot Com. That deposit Mona's batch two, hundred Still up for grabs his well. Got The cross country pick five tomorrow. Race Five Saratoga nine at Saratoga Racist Seven, nine and ten of del Mar in that order. Mandatory payout in the Empire six here on Sunday and of course, the Derby Bankroll builder tomorrow. But at least fifty to win on your selection in the four star. Dave and win or lose you twenty dollars back in your calendar Thursday September third four. Oaks and Derby one, forty, six. Alright. Let's wrap up the Saturday action at del Mar.. Maximum security he's back now he's been in the news again for weird reasons the announced out in Saudi that the money. For the winner, which was having the Saudi Cup being withheld places to through ten have been paid out. So still waiting on that money for maximum security. He's even money able to keep the mount. He's facing just five rivals. He. got a peek a good look at Midcourt last time little bit lesser. Look a high power couple new shooters, three new shooters to the mix but. I'll tell you bobby. If he improves off that return, that'd be tough horse to beat tomorrow. I agree and I want you to do me a favor take your eyes off your past performances right now either close your eyes and look only one horse has ever crossed the wire in front of maximum security remember who that was. I do because I made a wager for the Belmont Childcare Association. In the was the long rash of the Pegasus. It was the Pegasus. I forget which I forgot which which three zero recent monmouth was and the aptly-named king for a day got the money that they which of Alaska's. and. He'd later go on in the Haskell to. Get shut off maximum security on the far turn. So You know he got his revenge after the defeat But yeah, I played him that day for myself and for the BCC I wanNA say thirteen, sixty or thirteen eighty. So Yeah, we raise some money for charity alone time maximum security was not I across the wire. So they actually one, he was one to twenty that afternoon when he was defeated by today well, he's not going to be one for twenty in the Pacific Classic. He's even money on the line he he won the San Diego at odds of two to five and to be honest Anthony I thought his effort in the San, Diego was easily the. Worst is the is the wrong way. The least good effort that he's put forth since maybe the first two starts of his career basically every race he ran last year and the Saudi couple of way better than the race he ran when winning the San Diego on the track at del Mar the whole beginning of the meeting that weekend especially was very slow and very deep, very une del Mar like they went the Mile in sixteen in one, forty, four and two, and if you think about these horses probably should go about. Three and a half to four seconds faster than that for a mile and a sixteenth and maximum security. Most of the way looked like he was in trouble it was really not a good trip. I didn't think the deal wrote him very well at all that day he broke well without other horses to go on with it and try to rally and it was just I think the pure class of maximum security that he was able to get up and win by knows that afternoon. So there's two ways to look at it either he's just not as good now as he was. When Jason Service had him up until February this year and all of last year or he really really really needed that last race and he will bound forward second start off the layoff for trainer Bob Baffert. Give. The benefit of the doubt and think he's GONNA bound. Ford and the reason I'm saying that is because if I think he's not as good as he was last year it's kind of an always for me Anthony Guy I don't know which we go but maximum security every race he ran last year would beat this field very handily if he runs the same way did the San Diego not win he may not run second. But I'm putting him on top I would use midcourt once again, I would actually use number six Sharp Samurai. He hasn't run on the dirt in a long long time. But he's won on the dirt in the past and he ran very well when he ran on the dirt and he's a much better horse now then he was then I don't know if he's good enough to beat maximum security or look at least a little bit on a saver ticket and maybe underneath. And they thought about it last time if you remember he was cross entered in the San Diego and the Andy Reid. Furniture. Mark. Latte decided to run the read and take on I guess what he considered the lesser of two evils in United in this time opting to. Take on. Maximum security now, maybe that effort last time out is what led him to try maximum security. This time could very well be the case you bring up a great point two sources a much better horse now than when he tried the dirt many moons ago I think the way to play the race if you're like me. I don't think maximum security is going to get. and as you just pointed out as well yes, he's entered again in that del Mar Mile. So he doesn't have to run against either of them if he doesn't want to a great point I think the way to play the race. Now I happen to think maximum-security ran. Really good. Last time. I, think when you take into account everything, he had to go through and that ride. I that he ran bang-up race. With that said. You know. I. Don't know if I trust. So deal. To do the right thing this time I think things are a little different this time he. You know he's written him at least, but he still has to get him around now. I don't think he's GonNa. Get beat I think the way. To make money in the race I. don't like Midcourt I, don't like defending champion higher. Power. I, think you have to mess around with the other horses You're trying to shop Ameri. Dark vader a little bit who he doesn't have any flashy speak figures but he's been consistent those mid-nineties that he's run lately. You know I feel like if he can take a step forward a little bit for Peter Martin who's having a really good meat outta down warriors hit the board with. Sixty percent of his runners sources training of seemingly forwardly for this race he comes off a win and two other. Won't be surprised if this horse was far from the pace tomorrow. and. You mentioned summer. So I'M GONNA play five, four, five, six. And sanish an insanity insurance five, three in case, mirror. Manakh rocky. is any kind of horse. But I'm afraid against Midcourt in higher power and trying at one of the long shots beneath the WHO I think's win the Pacific classic number five maximum security raise ten at del Mar tomorrow around nine thirty, five eastern time tomorrow night on Sunday. We. Head back to the SPA the, grade? One Diana. Goes as race number eight on just the nine race card We have the field of six. Couple from grand motion, secret message and mean Mary couple from Chad Brown rushing fallen says to Charlie one from Christoph, Camman Homey love, and the Canadian horse of the year who upset the Boston spot three, two, one last time starship jubilee. And I pick starship jubilee last time out and I better that day was very happy with the effort all the reasons to to try to pick against sister Charlie that afternoon. But I think sister Charlie's going to run a lot better on Sunday than she did last time out in the Boston Spa. First of all, she's already. Won The Diana she ran bounce stablemate rushing fallen down very easily. Last year in the Diana window almost two lengths. It's not a ton of speed in this race meaning Mary's going to go rushing fall. She could go but I think she's going to lay second in the going I. Think Sister Charlie really needed her last race. I think she's going to be run better second time off the bench, which is strange to say for Chad Brown trains because you know he's one of the rare guys who is even better I, off the layoff than he is second off the layout but sister Charlie Looked every bit like she was not at her best may have needed that last race and the only reason I'm picking her over rushing fall on. Sunday is the fact that I know sister Charlie wants to go at least a mile and and eight rushing falls wanted a mile and an eighth. I'm not one hundred percent sure that that's her preferred distance. She looks like more of a mile or mile sixteenth type to me. So it was very close between those two Chad Brown runners for me I'm GonNa give sister Charlie a shock to improve and win the Diana for back to back seasons. Actually it will be her third Diana and that'll be history-making effort and I. It's almost like we shared a brain here. I not agree with I couldn't agree more with everything you just said. Could not agree more with any with everything you just said. Your only worry. If you are a fantasist that Charlie is that now the age of six she lost a step. Other than that I don't think there's a worrying in here on Sunday. I really don't If she did You know there there was a time and place where it's just the trolley would've been a single all over the place I will have some pick five tickets rushing fall because the truth a matter is rushing fall is supposed to call her own trip Javier Castellano is supposed to go to leave. And while using her best function, which is a speed. It takes mean Mary out of the race. Right. So that happens. Or Castellano decides to let me Mary Go WHO's yeah. She's stakes faced in her last three but let's be honest. She's Not, facing, the likes of what she's facing on Sunday and how they are just a second to mean Mary has the first. Crack Outer. Either way she's making her trip so They're the to I. Think the Charlie. Like you is going to rebound I think we're GONNA, see as I like to say the real sister Charlie on Sunday in the grade one. Diana. She goes for a historic three peat of the Premier Summer Turf. Race. In Saratoga wrap this segment with some monmouth action on. Sunday. The get serious as at five and a half furlongs out of the Chute on the turf. Archer dust got the money in the Wolf Hill on the Haskell undercard in his first start for training. Steve Asthma's last time out I landed there I couldn't get I couldn't get cute near the source Steve Food that he could win with source. Having taken the training over from Georgia Navarro which something we haven't seen a lot of sources to for to a mom. If in fact he was so good last year in the my Frenchman Industry three year olds he came Saratoga and he blitz them in the in the Mahoney. With a big effort He was good last time and I just think he can do the same thing here on Sunday the. Not only did he win first time out off the barn transfer from Navarro Asmus? An I'm GonNa, say that this might be the only one we've seen going from either Jason. Servicer. Jorge Navarro to a new trainer have run better than he was running even before his win last time out in the Wolf Hill I thought was super impressive and anywhere close to that. Kind of race he is strictly the one to beat once again. So I'm with you I think archer dust is way to go in this spot. The only other one that I I might use on a on a saver ticket is number five, share the ride for trainer Antonio area and Jackie Castio he's never raced on turf in his career but his dirt races. If they transferred to the turf are pretty good and give them a shot and it's not like he's overly bread handle. The Turkeys by candy ride out of a Hall Mayor Candy. Rights. Can handle the turf but. If he does run as well on the turf as he has been on the dirt, he has a chance in the spot but I agree with you arch dust he's going to be really really tough with clean trip. That wraps the get serious on Sunday at Monmouth. 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The one and only Tom Durkin calling my one and only four star Dave take back to my childhood the Sultan of Saratoga. He won the Daryl's joy twice. So they decided to rename it the four star. Dave welcome back to. Weekends Jake. Spree. Presented by our bets here on H. R. and I got a great story. So four-star, Dave's trainer Bobby. We have a quick minute we O'Brien. Husan Keith does a bunch of voice over work for us here at the horse racing radio. Network Keith has a some of his dad's old horse. Now, Leo's hanging it up. He still hangs around with Keith but keeps training the horses now. Were retired Four-star David. And when he retired as a gelding Leo, kept him around the barn for A. And one of the things four-star Dave love to do. And, Him and his later and Leo in late owner the Great Richard Bombs he richard to a ton four course men and women in New York They thought about running him over the jumps. At one point because they used to have the practice jumps and Dave loved jumping. So they retire four star Dave and they rename dowell joy the four-star Dave. And he was still at the born and up in Saratoga and He went over to jumps a few days and. Leo Basically said something like Oh I'm getting them ready you never know. I mean nominated him to the four star Dave and Howard battle. had come up from keeneland. Secretary for the one meet. He hit the roof. When he saw the NAM's come out, he hit the roof. It was one of the funniest things I remember. From that summer. Appearance. Era Toga Leo nominating four-star Dave to the race named after. That's amazing. First of all, it's it's pretty. Strange. reece's named for horses that quickly so. That I thought that's that's amazing. At, Woodbine tomorrow the soaring free on Sunday I should say goes as race number three. It's for the two year old. six and a half furlongs. On the turf it's on the EP Taylor. Turf Horses the Outer Turf Horse. this is a prep race. You would think for the summer which is running the mile. It's A great one later on talk about the catching windsors. prepped Tomah. So here we go a little bit of a preview perhaps of the. Summer. For the boys here just to. Just, a handful just feel the five. GonNa go that six and a half. Franz. And it looks like a two horse race on paper between number one ready to repeat and number five Gretzky. The great they actually matched raised against each other in a maiden race back on July twelfth at five furlongs on the turf that day Gretzky the great was making his debut for is ready to repeat. It already had a race under his belt, Gretzky the great through the rail that day ready to repeat drew the outside made the lead, Gretzky the great was challenged in kind of. Battling down inside just behind ready to repeat not the best place to be and ended up, they ended up running one to all the way around the race track. They both come back to win since then but I think the tables are turned now Gretzky the great draws the outside ready to repeat draws the rail I think they're still the fastest in the race I still think that the most talented in the race but I think this time. Gretzky. The great will get the right trip and he'll be able to turn the tables on his rival ready to repeat I like Gretzky the great from post five. Gretzky. The great for Bobby Newman. Can't say. Bad about. But I'M GONNA try Wesley Ward. WHO's had some success up there would blind into the sunrise bring post four. Ran. From too bad to believe in his dirt debut month later went to Ellis Parkin. Jog on the turf for the first time son of intimacy if Obviously has some talent. And the mischievous haven't really been turfing that much. This one did in a big way. Probably not fast enough to keep up with ready to repeat early. But I see him weighing up second off of the inside speed, and hopefully gobbling up, try to four into the sunrise race number three goes as that soaring free. That's for the Colton geldings later on in the card, the Phillies Zero, you'll take center stage. In, the catch a glimpse, it goes race number seven, a little bit of a bigger field In here, we got a field of seven getting ready to post and. Some maidens a maiden on the outside road to romance is an illegal smile. There's a I a ostracize And the maiden Emma Lean on the inside, which one which would you go here? While the even money favourite is number two dreaming of drew, coming off a monstrous maiden win last time out. She's never raised on the turf. She's by stir out of Prada married link at least on the damn side she's bread to handle the turf all day. Don't know yet about the Spicer's but the way she ran and breaking her maiden last time out I think is far and away better than anyone else in this field has run so far, and if she can handle the turf, she's just going to be too much for this field top jockey Rafael Hernandez picking up the mouth today or rather on Sunday. Trainer Barbara, minshull dreaming of drew even Monday morning line looks more like about three to five and I think it's hard to get past her. Yeah. The only give a chance who was the worship from Belmont. Ran Willin both of us star she tried the boys first time out. she was she had no speed first time. Didn't have speed second time. It was a lot closer to the pace and just ate them for breakfast I. I. got a feeling she can improve. Again I'LL TRY ALBA to upset dreaming of drew race number seven goes as the catch a glimpse out of del Mar on Sunday will wrap the action with the grade to del Mar.. Mile Handicap. A flat mile on the turf? My Bobby skype me earlier Sharp Sam Right Cross entered. Pacific classic and in this heat didn't want to run this united maybe doesn't want to run against. Maximum Pacific classic surprise Mo- foser makes his first start since a flop in the Pegasus World Cup turf invitational Most importantly gets his expect Peter Miller. and. This is a race. Zero. I. I agree I. I think most is going to be tough in this spot. I just think that his good races are better than this field can handle I'm not too concerned off the layoff because of trainer Peter Miller and although he only about a fifteen percent clip with these of types he seems to gear everything for this del Mar meet specifically this the the main, del Mar meet not the one that they have in. The fall. So I think you're gonNA see more floors or run a big race off the layoff Flavian. Pratt has written this or several times in the past and I he knows the source should get a good trip not too far off the pace, which is good because there's not a ton of speed and Bard has speed dreams of valor can show speed Kiwis dream as a lot of speed on the outside and I. Will just in behind them but look for Mo- force it to get off the layoff. Yeah Mo are just looks Looks through these royal ship comes in from. Brazil. Now we've seen Richard Mandella on. Fox Hill have some success with Jolie. Olympica. Bringing this son of midshipmen now out of our also. Familiar with the sire and the Broodmare Sire here in North America the sources one five in a row down in Brazil I. Also think it's worth noting that four of them five, all five wins have come on the turf five or six on the turf and we'll see what richmond delicate royal ship he'd be the one I think. Mo- fours can handle the what he knows. We'll see what the unknown comes said. Jolie Olympic came in here guns blazing this horse has a very strong work tap down delmore getting ready for this, and he accepts hall of Famer Mike Smith. So Mo- FOSER MO- fours over royal ship for me in the domes Mile Handicap. All doesn't in the books time now for the. IRA. Best Bet. visit is the naira beds best bet. Bobby. I'M GONNA. Go to Sunday at Woodbine, their third race, the soaring free for two year old six and a half furlongs on the turf. Even money favourite number. One ready to repeat repeat. I. Think will go down to number five Gretzky. The Great. Who's the second choice on the morning line I liked the post position I like the fact that he's got more experience I think he turns the table on the favorite Gretzky the great to win the soaring free on Sunday at Woodbine. On WanNa go to Sunday as well Monmouth Park. The get serious archer dusk back to back four. As Union Hall of Famer. Steve. Asmussen it. He takes that. Get. Serious equine form tomorrow morning comes your way at eight five time. Major League Baseball all-star Victim Martinez talks about his passion for racing and Kentucky Derby Connecticut King Ammo Turner John Salvo looks ahead to March specific classic defending champion Higher Power, Daca Jim Chapelle introduces fantasy Sarah Sean, clancy stop by for a cup of coffee in yours truly talks about ray one, four, star Dave, and state of Saratoga, and the Belmont Network means to accomplish our industry star of the week presented by Stuart Mars and more of the shuttle launch network the equine form tomorrow morning. At eight eight, m eastern now for Bob Newman leave on the big a Anthony Stabile I'll be looking I. I hope you went all your photo finishes. Equine form tomorrow morning, we'll talk to you Wednesday for Race Day. Thanks for listening for the weekend extreme preview of a great. Charm.

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Episode 58: Arkansas Derby, Oaklawn Handicap, Fantasy

Racing Rundown: A Horse Racing Podcast

51:36 min | 1 year ago

Episode 58: Arkansas Derby, Oaklawn Handicap, Fantasy

"Aright welcome back to racing rundown this week. What was originally supposed to be Kentucky? Derby Week Unfortunately obviously to current circumstances I should say that is no longer going to happen the way we originally thought it was going to happen. Obviously the Kentucky being moved to the first week in September but we do have a decent consolation prize This weekend with various stakes at OAKLAWN. Kinda taking the place of the Kentucky Derby and the Kentucky oaks the fantasy and the Arkansas Derby respectively as well as a couple nice racist for older horses the grade to oaklawn handicap being the Premier One. But some other nice races on that card. So good car this weekend. Obviously not the Kentucky Derby Card. We're GONNA make do with what we have. We're going to talk about some of the listed racists from oaklawn and and Gulfstream as well some a couple allowance races there last week. So we'll get into those as well on this program today so thanks for stopping by it should also mention that. We had shape ribbon on the show last week. If you're interested in checking out some of the talking about how certain Alex are with tracks as well as getting a little bit of hall of Fame Discussion. Of course we will have all the hall of fame videos finished by next week and addition to talking about the Arkansas Derby Card we will also have reactions to hall of fame inductions all right before we get to talking about the the racist from this weekend. There's a couple of stuff we have to look back at. From last week and the first reason is the carousel of course the sprint race at Oakland past weekend for older fillies and Mares at brought the match up between MIA mischief and Bella. Fina and one thing that both Eric and I completely forgot to mention last week about Belfi and I don't know how we forgot to mention this because this has been one of my big focal point about Bella. Fina is when she runs outside of California. I don't pick her but somehow both of us miss that but anyway that in that's honestly kind of one of the reasons that I would put on as to why Bella Fina ran fourth in this race. Is that when she runs in California? She runs some bang-up races. She ran second the Breeders Cup. Filly Mir sprint last year. Obviously she was also second Very questionable trip that she had in the La Brea where she got beat by hard not to love but when she runs in California. And you know obviously you can go back. Even earlier in her three-year-old year last year to her dominant victory. Antonina oaks when she runs in California. Bella Fina is one of the top forces there in California and when she leaves California. It's just not there for her so you know obviously great rates by the winner mischief. I don't want to spend the whole time batching on Belfi but that's really the answer with Bell Fina is that when she doesn't run California she doesn't bring that that a game that she has there but a really nice race turned in by me. A mischief You know like we said this isn't really a race. That necessarily favored horses come from the outside but a nice race From Mia mischief in their building on what could be a nice nice four year old season. Excuse me five year old season for her. Yeah it was yet her car comebacks and way I mean obviously he came back and won that allowance race at Oakland last month. But this this kind of ninety that she's you know she's back into the old compete at the highest level. Bella Fina she just she just needs to get back to California Doer thing there. It's interesting on just for -veloping but the Simon Callaghan horses in general just seem to always struggle whenever they leave California so Belkin. It's GonNa be interesting to see what they do this year. They're obviously going to still point to the breeders. Cup even know she's struggled outside of California. But who knows? Maybe they'll keep around for twenty twenty one and try to get a a Breeders Cup at Del. Mar later on in your. That's way down the road but You know I think there's going to be a strong race There was a lot of talented horses in this race as I talked about last week and I think you know with how things stand in the division right now me and this might even be the leaker in the regular season. I mean especially with a lot of the defections that have come out with Horses like Kofi not being around anymore and you know some horses just getting older with age of interesting to see how this division shapes up looking ahead of the other one turn division. Ray said oaklawn this time for through emails. You got the bachelor and this brought back winner of the American Pharaoh steaks and One of the favorite horses Breeders Cup juvenile last year eight ranks who did not fire at all in the Breeders Cup juvenile and continue to with this racist past weekend did not fire in the bachelor and really the question is you don't really know. I don't really have an answer for what the issue is with rings and you know I would be led to believe that you know go to definitely go back to California with him. Because that's where his best racist came in his maiden race and in the American stakes but the the Oakland thing with eight rings definitely did not Pan Out Kentucky. Derby obviously not going to happen with eight rains but nice win again by the winter. Long Weekend Thomas Joe Tama after a disappointing run Sarah getting a comeback. Getting a nice win with their worst long weekend but Eight rings don't really know what happened with eight rings and there's not really a set solution that you can come up with just the fact that didn't really fire hasn't fired his last couple starts. I mean personally. I just think that's GonNa need to go longer. I I've never been ultra impressed by an outside of his maiden race and maybe it's a mental thing for all we know we remember last year when he you know credible through the gap on the backstretch so it could be mentally. He's not all there and you know you think maybe a break like he had would possibly you know? Be The remedy for that. But it wasn't so it's GONNA be. It's GonNa be interesting to see where to go with that. I'm hopeful if Santa Anita gets back up and running they can run them in a race like the affirms can early June But for the winter long weeks seemed like a really talented sprinter. We're going to even obviously the biggest races that United States has to offer for the three year. Old Male sprinting. In runner up ECO town ran really well as well Both Atkinson and hosted asking named really have some Nice Young sprinters in their barn Outside of those two Steve Ashton as both volatile and A couple of other good ones at Thomas. All sorts no parole along with a long weekend so a lot of Nice three-year-old spinners this year to visit. This is also a perfect segue. Met Forgot to mention this in the opening segment. I meant to do that. Did remember to but what came out a couple about a half hour before we are recording this now so this will probably be more wide spread information by the time. The stuff goes up but Chance a lot obviously from the Navarro born last year a really talented three year old sprinter at least from what we were able to see of him and his races. I don't know whether or not that talent is still there. But from what we were able to save very nice sprinter he also now part of that Sea Bass Mason Barnes so Very nice Sees Matola last year could very likely continue that Streak of really good sprinters with chance lot moving on down at Gulfstream Park and Iraqis rather cheese gets back from his break very big way with gets back up with Todd pletcher they take the win in the unbridled stakes down at Gulfstream. So new very good race. Run by him You've also attacking race also ran a really good second in this race Be Interesting and again. You know there's a lot of lot of these lower level three year old races that we wouldn't really be paying attention to and these forces at this point does that like I mentioned. We wouldn't be paying attention to normally especially this week with Derby with the Kentucky Derby coming up getting a lot more spotlight and could definitely be down the road horses that we actually consider for high level races e even something Kentucky Derby not saying that that's going to be the plan for Dr Post but You know he he will definitely get more attention than you probably would have gotten if he was running in this race. Say at a time. Like last year but Very nice past. Couple of wins for him. I got the seven furlong maiden race. And then now he is a listed stakes stakes. When are so? There's a lot of potential for him. They're in this race last week. When I when I was talking about the straight I said this race horses that are looking to put themselves on the path towards the Kentucky Derby in September and. I was hopeful. I was hoping we'd get a big performance from a couple of horses here but after watching that race how was non too impressed with with that bunch of horses other than the doctor. Post Octopus had a dreadful trip and somehow out through The margin on paper. It's not going to do justice for him but the rest of the horses. Everyone seemed like they were being pushed about. I'd say three eighths out. They were all under pretty heavy drive and no one really seem to be doing anything. Impressive editor Dr Post to having a horrible trip so I mean he's the only take out a disgrace in. He has promised you can never go todd. Pletcher with his three year olds so I hold him in high regard coming out of this race but the rest them not so much so moving onto a couple of really packed. Cards down at oaklawn again. I mentioned in the beginning that Oakland kind is giving us a little bit of a consolation prize for lack of a better term with the two races that they have on Friday. That are taking the place of the Kentucky Oaks that Gardenia and fantasy for the three year old fillies and then obviously the Saturday with the two divisions of the Arkansas Derby as well as a couple of Nice allowance races and the oaklawn handicap for the old horses. So we're going to start with the looking at the Gardenia and this'll bring back a horse that coming off a re- various fairly solid third place effort in her last. Start out in the fairgrounds. Okay I'm talking about Antoinette. Who ran a very nice one? The tepid stakes at Ecuador's on the same day that The DEM OISEAUX was run Lake Avenue so couple solid phillies came off of that car but Intranet like I mentioned coming off a third place effort in the fairgrounds oaks and I liked her coming out of the stakes and I could see her in this spot. Being able to come through with a little bit of an effort that puts her a little bit more on the map per se this raising the pretty group. I Need Antoinette. Probably going to be The standout she's coming up a layoff in that last question still print still ran pretty well Personally when when I'm looking at this race I just feel a lot of forces that are you know. Kind of like you know bridled states. We talked about last week courses that have the ability of haven't been either consistent with it or you know kind of need to take that step up. There seems like there's going to be a decent amount of pace in this race Coming from all sorts of places the horse had it's always intrigued me in her career but As kind been up and down is the three Horse Gingham per Bob Baffert she. She runs really good raises every time. But she comes from way out of the way off the and Will either barely nurse or just you know not going till Ueli Kinda like walkers unions last time when she was came from way out of it and then try to close in. Venetian harper was long. Gone by that too. She intrigues me in this spot. A horse teams coming in a little bit underrating. His six quick decision to for to at Oklahoma's will be I start going to turns She's obviously won both races as I said But she's been putting really nice speed numbers and then To other words I think that are worthy of from my perspective. Daphne moon she'll be coming off the pace as well to broker megan practically at Saratoga but then integrated strikes horribly against probably tougher horses. And she seeing here today. came back and won allowance under these conditions at Oaklawn Va Comical vary valid battle-tested philly but hasn't putting the best performances for Asmussen. Then the nine ice Princess York Bred Filly. Who's been all wind up on the New York Red Company but she is manhandled his absolutely destroyed them and Danny Gardens have an excellent year so far so I think she's in with a good shot. I'm looking for off the pace horses in this race. It is a little wide open. I think I'M GONNA go. We can get them on top over ice princess in humble longchamp return haven't quite touched on yet I'M GONNA go with of the four turn stone. I think that if she gets a quick enough pace she's losing to Arkansas. Bred horses Not I wouldn't say losing you know poorly the horses that she had been beating her been impressive of but it seems like years hasn't gotten the best trip every time she gets a decent trip. She'll become so moving onto the fantasy and it is worth mentioning a one of the things about ice princess that she has been will enter in both races so she could very likely run in either bistro spots I I would say the smart decision for the connections At least if I were in their position I would go to the garden. Because this fantasy stakes is about as close to the Kentucky. Oaks IS YOU'RE GONNA get obviously with some of the injuries and Horses not here but buying large. This is a large majority of the horses. We could have expected to see on for Saturday. May you've got horses like Venetian harbour. Swiss Skydiver Gulshan Park Oaks Most recently last time out Lake Avenue. We mentioned her already. You've got the reigning champion British idiom. She's here as well as Lazy Daisy. Who won the Pocahontas to Churchill downs? And you've also got a couple of other nice horses that aren't necessarily these big marquee horses but you've got horses like Harvey's Logo Oil. And she dares the devil also from Brad Cox's bar and fire from Steve Asmussen so lots of representation in here. Lots of really. Stand out horses again. I mentioned Donald. J is a one act voice that I can think of. It's not here but even so with the horses that are here. Venetian harbour shipping in from California Swiss. Skydiver coming up a Swiss skydiver and Lake Avenue both coming up from Gulfstream Park and British idiom coming back from her last. Start in the Rachel Alexandra stakes in her last start out. So she was defeated. Not Start but Could be an opportunity for her to come back so again like I mentioned. There's a lot of really talented horses in this race. I could see. There's a little bit of a concern for me. With the Gulfstream Park. Oaks winner was skydiver. you know she. She's a horse. That could very likely get caught in a speed duel. Not Saying the speed duels going to happen. But there's that type of concern her last start in the Gulfstream Park oak shoes able to get away free on the front end not really have anything much to worry about their and then some of the other British idiom she did have that loss coming out coming back in the regional Alexander States but That that could be pinned on the fact that that was off of a layoff. I don't think that that's a defining characteristic of what she is. Although I would be I wouldn't be surprised if that is something as to what she is because we kind of saw that last year with Jay Walk That she came out and just wasn't really the horse that we thought that she was at least looking at her two year old year. But I could see working both ways with her. Venetian harbour was spectacular in her last. Start the last virgin is So again there's a lot of really talented voices in here. Obviously big stakes winners and then the the horses on the under like she dares the devil so very balanced race and a lot of talent here Super Deep Group and Like you said jackets. It's basically a I mean we're going to have the Kentucky Oaks until September but this is a very solid consolation You see mostly Schwartz's running in the which is the nice part In terms of who I like in this race I I generally like just as as resources like a lot of the horses in this race but I have some concerns. Especially those that are one. Don't want to be forwardly place We kind of have seen the last couple of weeks at OAKLAWN with these big fields. Not everyone getting ideal trips and Coming speed horse sir. Not Faring well good. Is that a lot of speed horses the last couple weeks. And I think you're going to have to look off the page here when you have forces specifically from two three and four. Venetian harbour suicide. Iber Lake Avenue all who likes to be near the lead Their best performances have come when they've been able to be on the front end but then in addition to those two. You also have Ringleader who's a sprinter trying to stretch out in this by in? She's very fast. Which means she's going to be on the lead early on in this one and then finally we have a fire coral. Who has won her last starts both to turns at Oaklawn in but she's been forwardly placed as well. So I mean you have five horses right out there. That are all going to be trying to contend for lead a couple of other horses. That really liked the press. So I'm looking for some horses that don't want to necessarily be In that bunch and I know they'll be able to stay out of trouble. Mytalk picks going to be British idiom. I think because you have the likes of Venetian harbor in your You're going to be able to get a really decent price on her I think a lot of I mean I feel like she's just been you know ghosted by the racing community ever since that That Rachel Alexander on you handsome anything on her and when you factor in the the the Venetian harbour hype with that. I and if I princess is to run here. I wouldn't be surprised to see her. Take a lot of money She does come from off the pace as well I I wouldn't pick her if she wants to run in this group. I don't think he'd battled has that another discussion So I think that Bruce Williams going to be able to sit the perfect spot he'd probably going to be eight or nine Boyne when everybody get settled in their spots and I mean she's just GonNa Bounce back really well. Brad talks to super well with horses Either off to lay off her. You know she been off a just about fifty days. But I think she's going to be primed for this race She's just a very talented Tilles. Everything's being disrespected. I'm also GONNA go You know second. I'm GonNa go with the devil. Another horse is going to be supremely disrespected despite winning the local press I mean we have bragged hawks of you know once again I think I know it's kind of weird. You don't use the trains run but he has to very county phillies and Joel. Rosario gets into Seattle in As recording this at least he's thirty three percent this year on Oakland Park. So he's writing very well and she has a win over the trap in the Honeybee. She's very underrated Philly I'M GONNA go Harvey Little Oil I just don't love her off the layout and he's not going to get the easiest of trips based off where she position In the Post Parade. But I do think that you're going to be able to sit just enough off the pace where she won't be protected by a speed duel that. I'm not saying it's going to happen but I think there's going to be a a a hot place in this and I will also mention that for any of these big stakes races in Oakland. The fantasy the two divisions of the Arkansas Derby and the Oakland handicapped is other three. We haven't gotten to. You can check out obviously a as a recording this. I haven't been made yet but those will be out over the course of the next couple of days you can check out individuals looking at these particular races a lot closer than just the the brief overview that we're able to do on here so that will be something that we've got to look for two on YouTube Going onto Saturday's card and in addition to the three essentially three stakes races. That are being run. There's also a couple of Nice allowance races. I WANNA start with the fifth race that allowance. Optional Clamor Seventy Five Thousand Dollars Tag and this has got some really nice horses that are were that we thought might take a shot at running in the Oakland Handicap. Couple older horses that are not as consistent as some of the like that are going to be laying down in the Oakland handicapped and those being some horses like bank it a long reach out who both recently ran tally. Oaklawn mile. You've also got endorsed. Newly trained by the new member. Bill Barn ran last start in the Santa Anita Handicap as well as rated R. Superstars run a couple of races at oaklawn this year with limited success. But besides those forces there's nine other horses in here that are really solid. You know it's a really nice seventy five thousand dollars allowance race kind of reminds you a grade three race. Unfortunately it isn't a graded stakes race. But you again. You have horses like bank it and Long-range Taty that have shown to have some success at Oakland and You know they haven't necessarily been performing to the level that you would expect of them in the greatest steak so taking a step back and class endorsement really nice In one of his starts his three-year-old year in the traverse. Back News still trained by Karyn. Mclaughlin didn't necessarily run the best last. Start out in the San Handicap. I think he's generally generally regarding a little bit better than that and then bake it ran a really good third in the Oakland mile as I mentioned last start. Outraged audio has always shown that he likes oaklawn. I always I'm always tempted to take long-range shoddy at oakmont not really sure. I'm GonNa do that here. In this spot but very tempting to go within there as well. So you've got to two horses with Steve Asmussen Dallas Stuart respectively common ownership though Both with Ron Wilson. Excuse me and then you know like I mentioned rated r superstar indoors so those are the horses that are in that fifth race I'll let Eric Give his opinions on some of that. But that's the top four in that race That group that kind of taken a little bit of a drop in class in his spot. It's a very deep group. You could definitely. I mean if you told me. This was the Oakland Mile back in April. I I mean I guess on a recording the till April but back a couple of weeks ago he told me this was the one mile. I totally would have believed you now. That's how this group is a lot of these horses. Oddly enough for horses I picked last. Time out on this podcast. None of them necessarily ran very well for me. So that's a little disappointing. They can make up for this time. I all the Hornets Jack Hug. Sean are very talented. Racehorses there's there's no questioning that it's just you know who's going to be a Agra best after his time who showing the best You know you go trending upward at this time. I picked longer or I didn't take longer shots. I said he was going to run well. He did not run while nearly one mile he does chemical class drops but this is not the easiest of spots. I mean it's it's comparable Chiyo on my life just touched on You know it is Oklahoma. We we've mediocre both in agreement. He does run very well at his track. I just I. Can't you know back in this spot? I need him to. You didn't prove me wrong once before I go again Bank it's been running really well. I mean he's been he's been doing his best other poor as performance. You know he's out of the three London Oklahoma's Fallopian Super Impressive. I've I I've been very impressed by this horse and I think he's going to. He's going to get a good a good trip. He's going to be able to come from off the pace to pace races. A little weird. There's there's not a ton of confirm speed other than the twelve pirates punch and this. This is a an interesting horse. You look these last three races. The two wins in a He was he was serving among Japanese over. Gusting Gunny Back in February in his two amounts to rape to seat he won by combined. You Know Sixteen Months. And he's been super impressive but he had to face this kind of group beat them So you make my three But I don't think I'm GonNa have him on top I think I like endorsed most in this spot Belmont with with his I you know I heart with with Gideon's barred from different trainer. They usually run really well. I just think this horse has a lot more talented. He's been given credit for I hope we can get a good price on in this spot because I think he can outrun that poor Santa Anita Handicap performance and also get a good trip in the process. So I'm GonNa go endorsed on top pirates punches gonNA stick around for a second and two thirty five who won an allowance race at Oaklawn a couple of weeks ago. I think is going to be a truly layoff for him but he won that race. Very nice we get a small class. Break actually beating lone sailor Veteran I'm sure many are familiar with in the process of mytalk. Three in this spot are going to be endorsed. Pirates Punch into thirty five and moving onto the other allowance. Or is this one is for three year olds on eighty thousand dollars claiming tag but the couple Morris's from this race Specifically want to jump. The paper is one that I was very high that I highly regarded last week. Ginobili who scratched out of the bachelor stakes With a I. Obviously now as we've seen with an eye onto this race a mile sixteenth more of more of a distance with their Probably Richard Baltics wasn't really enthusiastic. That much about the distance but you've also got from Todd. Pletcher caney tycoon. Who was drawn? Some is I know we had a case of Courtney on for the Florida Derby. She talked a little bit about Katie tycoon. He's got some he's always had some backing around him and he's got a chance in this spot you've also got everyone talked about that in the allows research. Charlotte ran in. Everyone talked about him in rightfully so he was spectacular in that race but the horses come out of that race was second. There is rushing for Michael McCarthy. Who before that second in that allowance race behind Charlotte and he had a really nice maiden win Mike McCarthy are obviously already had his signature victory of the year with C. C. in the apple blossom but Ver Very likely that he could keep it going with Rushie right here. Russia's had very nice very nice couple races so I could see either of those two horses. Rushie GOP. Russia and candy tycoon. Excuse me and then obviously only. Who'd be the horse and I would regard the most out of this but those three words I can definitely see as Three horses that come in here and perform really nicely. I agree with that statement. I think that When when we look at this race A lot of potential with this group but I don't know how how How many long salter going to overperform here? Especially because you know we look at you sprinter. I mean everything pretty much indicating this burner. But he's going to be benefited by the fact that there really is no other speed in this race. We know he's GonNa WanNa get to the lead. The lead in the two post should afford him that opportunity. The only other real speed comes from the ten Prodigious Bay actually broke his maiden at oaklawn in his last four and a half length through the really nice win Yesterday is back to is is first STAR. He was third behind Mr Monti Moines. Who obviously went on to win and won one. Division of the risen star. I do like rushing to California. Shippers have been running huge ever since You know scanning unit was closed and they had to start coming in. He's GonNa sit in Nice crip. It's going to be interesting in terms of you know we're the price is on this rates because you have a horse like rookie who you know with the ten class time. But he was also second to One of the favorites for the one division of the Arkansas Derby And other decree thing is. He's lost three times in his career. One was two thousand words who is a great one winter and then the other one was to Charlotte. Who very well could make himself? Great one winter this Saturday so He's extremely interesting in that sense Other other than those three intent canton the thing with Kanye tycoon. In this race. He has to be more holy place in his last year is both both a competitive very competitive grade stage. He's been taken off the pace and while he did on the founder of you. It was tired horses in the Florida Derby. It didn't work. He just didn't run a good race. You can be close shit fourth or fifth. I think he's going to run much bigger rate but I'm not willing to to you know. Confirm he's going to do that. Which is why can't take him in. One of the worst is going to mention before I give my top three year the four villainous broken may not opening day at this Jerry. Nicely of last year exceeds kind of taking a step back But I I think this might be a better race for him Just wanted to consider as a long shot place on top. I think I'm going to go with Rushie just narrow like by the smallest margins over prodigious because I think predicted space going to benefit from A slower pace in this race To hold on a second I just think rookies to looks on paper like you know when you look at those two horses. He's lost to You draw a line to those because he got beat by superior animals in that spot and all of a sudden he added that one. Nice win an engine for third Kind of a risk. Even though he might take a lot of money. 'cause I did Jesus Brenner but he might benefit from a slow pace all right so were now moving on to the first division of the Arkansas Derby and I know a lot of people have expressed a lot of displeasure in this originally the fields lined up. Were a little bit more balanced but there was a mixup. Two horses ended up in the same division with the same owner so they had to redraw the race and we got one division that's supremely talented and one division. That is very much top heavy. And we'RE GONNA be starting off with the first division Thankfully this is the more top heavy division. Of course we talked about Charlotte and in the last bit with when we talk about. Rushie and eat out. Charlatan is obviously before. That was before. The the screw up with the alignment of horses was go off. favored going to get a lot of backing but definitely now with the screw up and the fact that he's now in definitely the lighter of the two divisions he's going to get a lot of money and the thing about Charlotte that you look at with. A little bit of concern is the fact that he his two wins have come in. Medan and allowance company in California. I know we mentioned about Russia how we think that he has the potential to be able ship in here and run very big race in the race. We talked about right before this but that doesn't necessarily translate to Charlotte in winning a grade one race over at Some Nice Horse in this race. There's not any horses in here. That a super spectacular. I don't think anyone would make that notion about any of the Horse in here. But there's some good horses in here you've got second and third place finishers in from last year's Breeder's cup juvenile and the thing that Eric brought up in our size about this before we came on the air was the fact that there's going to be the top three horses. Breeders Cup juvenile are all here in in Arkansas. They're not in the same division but they're all running this weekend and neither neither of those three are going to go off as the favorite or are gonNA have significant backing. Now I will say ano- door is probably for for people. Were GonNA look at Charlotte in and say well that horses even money right now in the morning line? He's definitely probably going to be lower than that. There's going to be a lot of people that are going to be very hesitant to go with that. Look to Dorsey that. He's fired some very nice placing performances in great great breeders cup in the low self utilities. We talked about with Rushie. That was another one of the horses at Rushie. Finished behind but I'm very wary about Annadurai strikes me as another one of those horses that runs very well in California and You know he shipped to the fairgrounds ran poorly in his division of the risen star. I'm not going to run off of that one performance. I'll give him another chance. Here he would be my top. Pick wrecking crew. It of course is the third place for us. Again wrecking crew long-shot horse never really seen a lot with him here. Didn't win that low south Loselle futurity. He was also in there and then another horse. It's GonNa take a lot of play in this governor Morris No I've always been a supporter of governor. Boris but I could see him running for second in the spot. But I I would just be the thing about Charlotte in here and I'm GonNa talk about this because it's the division of the Arkansas Derby that I'm GonNa take for you to the thing that I see Charlotte and here is that. He's a very. He seems to be very vulnerable favorite. You know he's got all all the the qualms of a horse that has not been running state states company. There's some distance question marks with him. But it's just really hard to go against him in this spot because there's not a second horse in here that's really jump off the paper. Good with him so I I would have to say that Charlotte and would be the top choice here. But it's a top choice that I would be very that this. This would not be a race that I would bet because I would not wanNA take Charlotte in this spot. I do also want to mention basin is back in here. I'm not sure that the mile and an eighth is the distance for base and I'm not sure why seed asked me coming back here But I'm you know you see something that I don't see Giving him another shot to see being the distance Come back Third Start now since two old year but that that's how I see this division. It's very top heavy. Charlotte is a horse. That I definitely see has vulnerabilities. But I'm not gonNA be the one that picks against him and neither am I I I'm not a Charlatan Fan. Yeah I'm not. I haven't been convinced about him. Yeah he's done a lot but my hope. Is that this. Arkansas Derby would put some puts them up. Put some good horses against him in this this race. Just there's it's so top heavy you know looking at it. There's nowhere else you can really go especially when you look at the pace. He's the lung. He's long speech in this race. I mean truly. Nobody's GONNA WANNA go with them in the spy. It's too little are I. Don't know how to best describe it but it's hard to at because you're you're just like he's going to be such a short price and he's someone tested. But who else can you go with any answers? Nobody there's there's nobody else you can go with in this race so Charleston for me Doors going to bounce back in this spot I just I have a gut feeling about it. The risen star. It's harsh into the fairgrounds and win. coming circle. I just don't like it especially when they don't get a good trip like he did. Plus he gets Juan Hernandez back and I think that Hernandez obviously got along well with this horse enough to write into second close seconds in Breeders Cup juvenile. End The low south futurity. So I can't doors going to run a good race but I just don't see Charlatan losing this race Governor Moore's also he'll probably run well but like I said I it's all Charlotte in this spot in. I'd be very surprised to see it. Go any other all right. So we're going to deviate a little bit from the three year olds and take the horses and the Oakland Handicap has been raced. I've been really looking forward to. I really like a lot of these older horses in this division especially lot of horses that are coming out of their three zero year into their four year old year. And you know just the fact that we hadn't really had a chance to see a lot of these older horses. Get a chance to run. You know with some of the undercard races on the Dubai World Cup being canceled and obviously you know races Up in New York not happening so this is the first opportunity that we're getting to see really sanity handicap on to get to see these really top level horses. I guess you could also make the make the argument that the New Orleans classic was another one of those eight skews me but moving onto Looking at this racers some really good horses in this race warriors charges the first one. I'M GONNA mention. He won the razorback. He opted to skip the Essex. Just train straight in to the OAKLAWN handicap. And you know you can't really fault them with that the razorback win for warriors charges. A really nice win. We've seen warriors charge has handled Oakland. Really well that really exclamation point allowance race that he ran prior to his start in the preakness that was spectacular as for him so he obviously loves this oaklawn track so very hard to go against him here. You've got like mister freeze. Who is back from Dubai? Dale shipped him out there. And then you know the Dubai World Cup undercard racist cancelled. He's coming off a couple of really solid performances. He ran a very very big second better than I think. A lot of people would have originally expected him to run in that Pegasus World Cup behind Muccio Gustavo and then was able to follow that up in a win with a win in the Gulfstream Park Mile. So you've got mister freezes another standoff Hoarseness Division. Obviously I mentioned the New Orleans classic by my standards. You know we've seen. He's had some really good racist down at the fairgrounds. I am willing to not necessarily draw a line through the Kentucky Derby but I don't really hold the Kentucky Derby that much against him. It's really hard to judge the Kentucky Derby against a lot of horses that the Kentucky resigned a very odd race with the amount of horses and not everyone gets a fair trip. So I'm not holding too much in the Kentucky Derby against him tax who ran some really good races as a three zero. Last year improbable. Who's back last week rand or in a couple of weeks ago ran second in Oakland Mile? Although I will mention he is being written by Martin Garcia Not Drain Van Dyke. So my enthusiasm level goes down on him from that level. And also my my favorite tomorrow as you mentioned my current favourite right now. Older male horse training is tacitus. I've always been in the Bank of people that gives tacitus chance after chance and I'm going to keep giving giving him the chance because I don't think he's run up to the level that he has since his last win which was in the wood memorial more than a year ago but I think tacitus a lot better his run some really nice races last start. Juggle cub didn't run the best race. I think that left something to be desired but and then in his fifth pro in the World Cup was not terrible left a little bit to be desired there but tacitus for me is one of my top were older than I think. Getting Johnny Velazquez in the saddle definitely will benefit him very well. And then. Also you have combatant who won the Santa Anita Handicap John Sadler. What else is new? Turn around his turnaround. Many horses obviously gift box. Higher power accelerate. Never never really turn them around but Accelerate was able to get him into being Breeders Cup Classic Winner Eclipse Award Winner so so just adding combatant to the list of really nice sources for John Sadler so very deep race lot of horses. You can go within here. There's some I didn't even mentioned unsure. Eric's going to pick up but you know I'm really excited about this race really enthusiastic about a lot of horse in here and I'm looking forward to seeing what horses can be able to come out and give a really really bang-up race here and give us a clue as to how some of these Oliver look this year. It's it's the toughest race on the car. I mean the second division of the architecture which were to touch on in a moment is is a very hard race for sure but I mean there's so many good horses racing I mean personally. I imagined many of you listening as racing fans look interest like this. And you're like there's going to be a horse race that runs ache. That is so much better than running eighth in this kind of rates that it's just that kind of race where so much talent you know the there's no like oh well there's five speed forces in the rates everyone. Everyone look for a long time. That doesn't exist. There's so many different factors that play so really I just have to go with my my heart over my head years. I've been on talent. You're looking at some of the best. The best this there's multiple horse in this rates are going to see any of the Breeders Cup classic or the Dirt Mile Later on this year in in grade one throughout the year. Where's target looking at him? And I've never been fully convinced by him. He's always runs the most impressive graces. I think the biggest thing that I'm going to be looking for As as Arkansas Derby Day goes on is how does banking run? If thank you runs out of. His mind runs a huge rate from the hole in the wall. In the the fifth raise that he's entering entered and then I think yet hey warriors charge to the bank but if thank you runs horrible that there was no point intended that just kind of happened naturally but if Beijing runs horrible I would be very hesitant to pick. Warriors charges that the Horse that second to a my ahead last time now in the razorback but like I said I gotta go with my heart over my head in this race where it's so even on talent. I'm a big by my standards fan. I just I have been so enamored by his last to win. Specially that New Orleans classic was dominant I think that I mean I think the Derby was too much too soon for him. If he'd have one more graded stakes in him. He ran a lot better if he doesn't you know kind of have a rough start where he got kind of squeezed and just a rough by stands to first time trip. Benecke. He ran a lot better. That's all speculation forced but my point is that I think he's very talented. And Luckily you're going to be looking at a good price on it because people are going to be on horses like warriors charge and mister freeze having on huge no matter what. There isn't a ton of dhx speed signed on. He's obviously really likes the mylanta nate. He's run very well to all the time. He's he's tried it minus that Pennsylvania Derby track a couple years ago that obviously he's a much improved horse since then I am a little. I mean. He's obviously done very well. Switching between writers Also had actually coming into this race the best speed figures which speaks volumes to to the horse himself. Especially when you look at who? He's been losing too. So that's GonNa be my second choice there with my standards on top and I think that you're you're going to need a horse horse in this race. That might be a little bit closer to the speed. I don't seem any closer coming on in this race and while I walk past this I I like jackets and a big believer task is this. Is the time on jumping off the ship than if you pushed the wrong time. 'cause emotionally over to feel good but because I support the horse but I just don't know if this is the spot for him to regain his confidence I think that trophy chaser to has a big chance to run a big race Last effort out on my own and needs to starts back you won by eight lengths with a with alkyl open or semi. Camacho goes get aboard in this spot but he's one that could benefit from pace that slow enough and if you can just write off he'll be there in the end so that's my top. I'M GONNA mention my favorite going down with the ship. I'm going to go down with the TACITUS. Ship of the TACITUS ship goes down. I'm going down with it moving onto the final race That we're going to look at on. This episode is Division One or excuse me division two of the Arkansas Derby and you know like I mentioned with the First Division this obviously this one is the more talented brings the better star power in this race. You've gotten a doll. Who Eric and I sang. All of new dolls praises following his win in the rebel that was spectacular but aside from the dog and the dog can get a lot of play here but an adult is not the only reason. It would be very easy to look at him. You Know Bob Baffert horse. He fits the profile of a horse. That comes Oakland and takes all the attention away from everyone else. But there's other really solid in here you've got wells by you who mile three sixteenths last time out Louisiana Derby put them all to sleep. Merry Merry Go. Round performance for Floral Andrew and Wells. Buy You a wired them in the Louisiana Derby Mile and an eighth Just based on the fact that he could go mile through sixteen mile. An innate doesn't seem like a distance handicap for him so even though he is speed. That doesn't concern me very much. Kim Gilliam oh big. Long big was a big price winner. The Tampa Bay Derby Eric and I were not very high on this but we both thought that Coming out of that race that that fifty to one was maybe some kind of an overlay and We we expect big things coming from King Guilermo. You've got the Returning Breeders Cup juvenile champion two year old storm the court in here. Although I do not think that storm the court is when you think of a two year old champion that type of star power. I don't think that that is what storm the core is. But he is Breeders Cup juvenile winner to your champion in this spot worth mentioning. Silver prospectors. Run some really good races at Oaklawn this year. I'm willing to draw a line through his performance last. Start out in in the rebel. I think that pace cooked every horse. That wasn't noodle accession. Who surprising these not in this recent. Don't really have a reason as to why he's not here but accession who came from the back and a coach who was also two-horse so we're coming from the back speed basically cooked all the forces that were remotely close to lead in that race. I think silver prospectors GONNA RUN A lot. Better than that rebel and he. He's shown that he likes his tracks. So I expect to see something some good things from silver prospect and you must have finished the fear suit. He's fifteen to one is definitely gonNA be a bit of a price in this race. And I know Eric is going to be liable to Picnic. Fierce here but Still a little bit from him. Finnick fierce A Horse that. He's run some good races in the past Don't be surprised if he not necessarily wins. But don't be surprised if you see him turning a big race also another one of these number. One of those verses is Farmington Road. Who WAS SECOND BEHIND? Mr Big News. Air took a big shot with him in that race for him to run second and you know that panned out so to worsen here that are going to go off. His prices overshadowed by some of the top runners. Farmington road finished the fierce. Don't be surprised if you see either of those horses. Come here and turn in a big one. Yeah I mean Genentech kind of took that one out of my mouth I I. I do. Think the pierce a lot. I think every time he's been in a race on the podcast. I'd makes that he always out runs his odds and you yard he. He had a rough trip in his last race. And he's still buys his qualification. Was the winner of that race in New. I mean even here in much better on paper and the risen star in Lecomte I'm not putting him in my top Greek because I think there's three other horses I'd like more but I think he's going to run a big race in on the less. This race is so challenging. I mean I moved over and over and over and I mean I know I. I mean after the rebel I was know. Give given it all the Kentucky Derby Trophy but as I look at it now i. I'm just not there yet. I think this is a much tougher group. You know as as reflect on that rebel among that half later that this is a this is a cover group that group he'd be was not all that it was there was. I mean we were hyping it up a ton but none of those horses have really panned out since then and only beat accession by three quarters of white shirt. He went really fast. But that's not gonNA change this race. There's going tons of there's really quality but thefts feed the fourteen year Mo. He wants to lead wells by. He's going to walk a leadings. Never not been in the lead and when he's when he's given it up he seemingly faltered like was by on that spot kind of took that one out of the way This is all he's been trained. The big thing is all his works leading up in this race. He's had a target so Bob Baffert and wants him off the pace in this race but whether he's actually going to be able to do it is the big question. It's it's going to be interesting in in all honesty when I don't feel that competition that horse. I have to go back to a horse that I picked once and you ran really well for me and I'm still convinced. Farmington road has a grade one win in him on picking Farmington road. It's going to be a nice price. This is a tough group. It's you know. Super highly regarded horses left pregnancy center. But I just think that when you I mean I referenced the Risen Star when we were talking about the Oakland steaks and I said for him to come from off the pace at the fairgrounds enclosed into a forty eight and two half Mile One twelve one hundred twelve and four three quarters of while still finished fourth and then come back in that Oakland state which had a hundred page but he was coming from. So far back HAVI RECAP. Solano is not going to have them that far back in this. I think he's prime for big race. Especially if the pace of falls apart so FARMINGTON ROAD. Big Long shot on top of me. I think he's going to run big. I didn't do it all the battle tactics he he he he. He's a fighter. I I think he'll hold on for a second and third. I think we can draw a line to that rebel a silver prospector and get a net spots on my top three. Farmington road noodle and silver prospector. So again a big car this weekend in Oakland Park obviously not the Kentucky Derby unfortunately. I think we would have preferred to have to be running in the first Saturday in. May Have have all the the fun with the Kentucky Derby Street that we we normally come to expect around this time of the year. Unfortunately we're not going to get that But looking ahead to what? We've got coming forward again. Obviously next week I mentioned at the top of the show hall of fame will come out on Wednesday. We will wait and do the show as tempted as we will. Beat to do the show. Probably even on Sunday. 'cause I assume it's GONNA be a really entertaining daybreak and we will hold off on that until the hall of fame. We will get a reaction to the famous wolves. Everything that happened this weekend with racing like I mentioned. We're going to do individual previews for the two divisions of the Arkansas Derby and the fantasy and oaklawn handicaps respectively. Those will be on Youtube over the course of today being Tuesday and tomorrow Wednesday. So keep your eye out for those as well. Keep your eye out for the remainder of the hall of fame videos. I tried to space them out. Unfortunately Kinda ran out of time. But that's just GonNa there's GonNa keep your eye on youtube. I'm going to be pumping out content on Youtube over the course of the next week so that we hit the deadline of getting all the hall of fame stuff out before the actual inductions are announced. So keep your eye out on youtube for that as well and then after the Arkansas Derby. We will figure out we're going to do we might Bring back some some of the random discussions that we did. We had the top of the twentieth century. So there's that that we will do following the Arkansas Derby who knows what else we're gonNA hear Over the course of the next couple of days so that it very fluid on here but that is what is at least coming up next week. And that's what's over on Youtube so you can check all that out again as I mentioned at the top of the show also. We had J. proven on the show last week so you always great whenever we can get him on the show so go check that out as well so we'll see you next week Good luck this weekend. There's a lot of big races this week a lot. Of course they're gonNA come out of this weekend and there will definitely be some superstars and could could maybe see some upsets this weekend. So again we'll see you next week and good luck.

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The Battles in the Market: Big vs. Small, Stay-At-Home vs. Re-Opening

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The Battles in the Market: Big vs. Small, Stay-At-Home vs. Re-Opening

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Then that the nasdaq was up about point. Nine percents We've closed about one point. Three percents as you say absolutely a roaring into the end of the weekend a tom. What did you make of the price action today as well as over this past week. Well what. I've been seeing the last two weeks. A especially with the nasdaq has been A series of lower highs happening. And i i i look at when markets start to correct or give a little choppy on the downside. I'd like to use the sixty minute timeframe a looking at charts and you can really see where the get whacked down and then you know the dip buyers come in and then they get disappointed and have to sell on. We just carry this pattern. I think it's just a bit of rotation we had small caps and the reopening stocks murdered mid week and then they came roaring back and so i think there's a lot of liquidity in the market. There's a lot of hope and fires Willing to put money to work. And so you know my view right now. The market is starting to see some distribution. And we're seeing it with a lot of the technical indicators that we use when you say distribution do you mean breadth in that Abroad amount of stocks are participating in the rally. We're we're starting to see the momentum shifts a little bit where we're seeing some very simply of the percentage of stocks within etf supermarkets above the ten day moving average but the twenty day moving average. Those are starting to read I that might be just a function of those moving averages of flattening but sometimes when they flatten they go down as well and a lot of things in the nasdaq have already started to roll over the fifty day. Moving average is starting to roll over twenty days. Crossed the fifty day It's some of it could be headed into the Into the corner position squaring today was pretty extraordinary because we were watching a list of about twelve stocks that were just getting liquidated and when i say look dated of viacom was cut in half in two days and you know just discovery and some of the chinese names. I have some speculation of who it might be There could be a big fund I've heard a tiger cub fund. Perhaps no guarantees or confirmations. That i i know any of the players in this could be softbank you know. They've had some liquidity issues of and they also the thing. That kind of makes me think softbank is if you look at the tech stocks from last summer and they were just on this parabolic. Move up every cell signal that. I got spelled immediately. And then they just sorta gave up and stopped and that sort of the same pattern if you look at viacom and discovery in a few of these others that are mentioned as liquidators of those same trader was buying them. And that's that's kind of my speculation that could be softbank. We may never know. We may know but softbank also was confirmed that they are s investigation for their trading last year in the gamma squeeze. So who it is. But you know we'll see we'll see in the coming weeks who Who sold thirty three. You know insurance or discovery and and the thing that's crazy about this. It's not just like a top ten holder. Some of these funds that have been mentioned aren't even in the top ten and maybe some of it is traded on swab through large broker. Like amara or or morgan stanley. So it's kinda hidden who owns them but whoever was selling them. That's like the number one or two largest holder of the stock and that to me says that they jammed these things up. They just got forced liquidation here. Today it's just. It was pretty amazing. Yeah just for the context of everyone. Watching. there is a pretty significant market event. Today tom tom you and i are actually on the phone preparing for this earlier this morning and just got a bloomberg alert or something you said. Wow there's this. Huge market event people with a big fund liquidated large percent or perhaps the entire position in viacom discovery shop affi- by do and a no stocks Expectedly had a rough day a tom. What does it mean to you when a fund has a forced liquidation. What's the significance of it and one of the mechanics. How if you were a fund manager and you had you were forced to sell. Why would you be forced to sell. I actually know about a Personally but That actually was over a month but something happened here. Something snapped and maybe a this fund had the wrong trade with the recent bond market collapse. I don't know they may have had some european entity go bankrupt and they were you know in the whole four hundred million dollars. There's a lot of people out there that use leverage and a lot of funds us leverage. And i'm rarely seen of force liquidations of when leverage isn't involved so i'm assuming whoever it was was levered to the gills and they gotta tap and said we've got exit and they called up goldman sachs today and said hi Would you mind doing a trade for me Twelve of them and it's probably about two hundred million shares so that is probably it and they might you know having it be one day or it might have started the last couple of days because of some of those stocks had already started to move down. it just got to the point like get out by february or excuse me friday at at the at the close. So that's what happened today and it became very evident that These stocks were under fire. Now i actually i. I bought some of those thoughts about discovery and viacom of market on clothes orders just to play the cleanup trade. Because if this large is gone we could see a relief rally in these names over the next week. So i'm happy to do that. I've i've done a lot of those over the years. Yeah buying the dip. It's not just a slogan You exerted that trade. And i interested to see how that played out tom. It's important for people to know you know. Everyone does familiar with a short squeeze because of game. Stop when you're forced to buy back when you use leverage short something but as you mentioned to me on the phone today there's also something called a long ways when you buy at margin and you have your liquid. It sounds like that's exactly what happened today. But it's also there's another dynamic to so a short squeeze is a very heavily shorted stock of and when there's good news or thought starts moving up like game stop of the shorts have to cover and it just creates another source of buying now on a long squeeze of which we've seen i. We saw one of the biggest long squeezes of ever back last march. It was because nobody was really short airlines. Nobody was really short of the cruise lines. In the retailers. The short interest on those were actually very low Until they got to the very bottom in the schwartz. Stern started shorting the wrong time. But if you don't have that natural buyers short-cover you're going to have a deeper pullback on on things and that's exactly what i like to look for In a in a stock we're the short just given up or they just don't have the confidence to short him a lot of them last year revalue stocks and people just given up on on on trying to short thousand now I i think there's some some some long squeezes out there. I mean nobody. Nobody's really short viacom or discovery. It's not a heavily shorted name. Maybe they were a little bit In the last week. But you know it's the value stock tom. A few minister you mentioned The fang stocks the big tech the mega cap stocks and how they were surging early on in the pandemic but or the past six months or so they pretty much been trapped in a range and some of them even down so they of passed the baton onto the small cap stocks as well as the uber gross stocks as well as facts but now all of those trades are fading. I think even over the past. Let's say twenty days or so. I think the the russell two thousand small cap stocks is actually a down or you know not up. Where do you see this going. Forward tom in terms of sector rotation. Because i know you've been on real vision. Earlier this year talking about inflationary fears. That could be a row could rattle hydros stocks like tesla lake docu sign and even proved largely. Right you're you're interested in reopening stocks like energy. But i understand now that you've gone out of energy. So tell me about your wears the baton in terms of leadership. Where's the baton can be passed to next in terms of sector rotation unpack there. So i i've bought that the parabolic move and tack these mega cap stocks could just cool off. And they have and they haven't really done much their funds a trade in little ranges but they haven't really done much and even when they reported earnings. They really didn't get the bang you know on the upside and a lot of semi's is well on. I was speaking to a technology portfolio manager in asia. Either i just can't believe that nvidia just had such a great number. The stock went down. And i'm like well you know it's crowded so i wouldn't be shocked to see tech a take a breather and it you know we have earnings coming up. I think the cops are going to be a in the next couple of quarters of tough for them because they really did well with the stay at home trade. So we'll see what happens there but as far as russell you know. The russell really was littered with a lot of value names and regional and tons of energy and materials and retailers and stuff. A lot of stuff doesn't make they don't make a lot of money or they actually zombies but still the i liked the energy back in september and october and i got meg along and i was on ruben with ash and saying yeah i love it because i think joe biden is going to be president and i think he's going to be the best thing that ever happened for energy and everybody was like wait what you know but everybody thought that with trump and then trump said. Let's drill drill drill. And what happened is yet too much supply now i think binds put some clamps on the drilling activities and i think that the supply demand a picture of will work out well for the bull so i i did sell of all energy stocks of recently. I'm to aside sold at like right before the day before the peak and the next day i thought crap i sold to early but i just wanna i just one looking for by a places to buying back. I think they're still lot of juice. They're a they're a terrific reopening. Play an inflation play. And i also like financials and i also hoping that. We'll get a pullback. We haven't had a pullback enough. So i'm basically on the sidelines. But those i did by consumer staples today and as far as the rotation trade of consumer staples always seem to gravitate towards the top of my list of when markets get a little dicey or i see some liquidation or distribution up. Because i think they're very dependable. They're very dependable. Earning type stocks proctor and gamble walmart coke pepsi a few others. I bought today about the x. L. p. consumer staples etf. I think those are pretty much hiding places have had a little bit of a run so far and i think there's still a little bit more. They can do so. I'm not looking for them to be this giant outperformance. But i'm looking for places to park money and get decent return. Hi i'm ash. Bennington host of the real vision daily briefing. You're listening to real vision podcast. Today's episode is sponsored by masterworks. 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I covered all my shorts and people looked at me like i was nuts. Unfortunately and i'll i'll admit i had some great gains an took gains too soon and i just want to like i don't wanna i don't wanna talk about it but i you know we all do that. It's you do what you can at the exact moment but the data that you have so yeah. In hindsight i didn't think birth. Smp would be near four thousand. I didn't really think it'd be a three thousand i. I'm not really good with pandemics and trading pandemics but now we know by every pandemic But so right now yes. I'm hiding in consumer staples have a little gold exposure. I'm not a gold bullard barra. Just i think. I'm i'm there little silver exposure of slightly positive in the in those right now. I think the dollar can continue higher. Which i just talent ashley. Last time i thought the dollar was going higher. He looked at me. Like got to in this call but I don't have any bitcoin exposure. A you know i. It's not something. I'd trade i do look at it. I on hitch wants I give opinions. Would you know find sell places and back when it was a three thousand had demark by signal. I told people and they were like you know what nobody really cared. And now here it is Fifty thousand Pretty amazing it's something to behold tom. You've you've mentioned that they're sort of two battlegrounds. In the market one is with regards to the size of stocks so mega cap stocks versus small cap stocks. I think we've covered that already. But another lens through which you look at the market and other battleground is reopening stocks versus. Stay at home stocks. Tell me how are you seeing. That battle evolve this stay at home. Stocks we all know zooms the The tech companies. I mean net flicks roku of we watched all those do exceptionally well and even the In the reopening stocks are ev- energy retail. You have cruise lines. You have Airlines financials are in. there is well. And i'm looking at my on sex thing here so the goldman sachs basket of stay home. Was up of one point. Three percent today reopening was little better at the point seven percent so those The everything went up today. It seems but of those have been tear tottering around a. What's what's working. And i think that the it's almost too obvious that there's going to be a reopening and i've it's the problem i have is a lot of these stocks have already moved so much that they're pricing in just an unbelievable recovery and i look at disney. Disney is a great company. I love disney of been long been short. I'm short currently but the movie theaters aren't going to really have full capacity for quite a while looking forward to going to movies by the way and then disneyland and disneyworld theme parks. I think disneyland talking. Fifteen percent capacity and then maybe twenty five percent and this is like towards the end of april. The perfect time to go if you can get tickets of going. Twenty five percent capacity would be amazing a great experience but it's going to cost a lot for them to reopen and run those parks again. They haven't really had the cap bax of to pay all the people in the run the the parks and i think that those like disney's ahead of itself and it's it's clearly i think. Thirty percent higher in its peak back in january of two thousand twenty. So i think if anything. There's a lot of stocks out. There that are just priced it in right. Now the airlines cruise lines perhaps I mean tripadvisor. Is i think fifty percent higher than where it was january of two thousand. Twenty everybody's gonna wanna travel. I'm taking three. I have three trips planned So we'll see how far those. But i think there's a little bit of a. There's still a little bit of a trade there those back off. i'll buy them But tom you mentioned that you have three trips planned by any chance or any of them to miami. That things are heating up a lot. I am not going to miami. It everybody i live in greenwich connecticut. That and friends in new york that rum in palm beach. And i'm moving to miami and just giving up Going to dallas to visit my daughter. It is him you in los angeles. This season Friends and clients and then my next charleston. See another daughter. So i you know are just some little trips but not miami and boy. What a mess Spring break last week. Yeah that was. That was really something else to see. Those videos really was and it makes me think you know some in the market are just foaming at the mouth. Bullish for reopening stocks a like disney like airlines and. Others are more cautious. It sounds like you're more in that second camp of it. But tommy on the topic of disney. That just makes me think that it kind of neither fish nor fowl because now it's reopening stock because it has disneyland in the leg but during the pandemic investors who bulls could say. Oh actually it's a stay at home stock because of disney plus. How are you thinking about those stocks. That don't really fit in either category and you know it can't be sort of put in in those boxes like it's easy to put a cruise line or another stock but one thing about disney. And i i used to be a media traitors. Well way back. When am i hedge fund of stocks on cheap right here. It's it there's times we're disney's really good value and then there's times where it's very expensive so it's expensive right now Yeah disney plus a subscriber numbers. Were great. I actually got disney plus because i'm on verizon fios and they gave it to me for free so i count as a subscriber. I you know i think there was a big ramp up. We'll see how well it does. I'm sure he'll do fine but the subscriber growth will probably moderate somewhat as well So sorry but back to disney. But what were you saying. Well actually so you mentioned that you you were immediate trader. I just actually think that shows your competence and skill as a traitor because you know as someone who works in the media the media typically a tough tough business To begin moving moving on tom. Let's talk about bonds that the ten year tenure has in rising. That's been putting a lot of pressure on these growth names Tesla comes to mind. Tesla was down today as the ten year. Gapped up about two basis points to. I think one point six six and test was down about three four percents How are you thinking. you'll wilpon will. Rising bond yields continued to rattle technology stocks. What's your outlook. My outlook on bonds has been that they are for sale of. I've been bearish bonds. I've bought yields would continue to go up. They reached the about one point. Seven five on the tenure which was one of my targets. It's backed off a little bit and perhaps a little bit of the maybe there's a little risk off of with equities that caused the bonds rally for a few days. The yields are going to go higher because inflation is going higher and you have so many different things that are going to be negative for bonds. First of all you have a lot of people that are crowded into bonds and people never seen a bond market correction or you know a crash. I mean i'm not sure if we're gonna get a crash because that's a take rate of change that would be pretty extraordinary but corporate bonds the investment grade corporate bonds are down. I think total returns down four percent year to date and that's one of the worst returns for investment great. You've also have like really strong. Companies like apple and google and things with longer duration solid companies trading their bonds trading in the eighties. You have a lot of things that are happening right now. You've got the giant one point nine trillion dollar stimulus. That's filtering into the the world. You've got the reopening It's gonna be a natural of push for demand you've got the the fed that continues to on their same path of which they have no seemingly concerned for higher yields at this point and i think that's they may want to temper the equity markets by allowing yields to go higher Because that will put pressure on the high-growth names so you don't the thing that kind of makes me nuts is is. The fed will take credit for all these jobs that are going to be created but this is really just a people going back to their old jobs as things reopen. So you don't wanna hear politician or the fed people say you know we're creating jobs. I think it's it's they're taking too much credit for themselves because these are just thought like well. We've got these new great new jobs for people that are paying more. They're going back to their same old jobs in same careers in so that's good. Obviously i'm happy to see that bad occurring that's going to be inflationary and we really haven't seen inflation know many decades that could get out of control and i think the fed will have to take some steps and whether it's by doing operation twist or trying to keep the short end of the short end bonds yields lower. I'm not quite sure what's going to happen. I do think we're gonna see two percent on the ten year and even more concerning is the longer duration bonds on the three year. Because if you have let's say twenty five basis. I'm sort of going off. The top of my head of twenty five basis point a backup yields of higher yields That is like a four percent a total return decline on your thirty year bond. And when you're getting two percent or if you for someone but a thirty year bond under one percent to terrible return But if you go up one hundred basis points that's like twenty one percent decline. Now keep in mind. Everybody lovers themselves. We've talked about leverage in leverage is great when it's going in your direction but if it goes in the wrong direction it could get ugly. The rate of change in yields could really. I could really surprise people so right. Now we're we're still pretty you now. Cool everything's fine. But that's a risk. And i'm watching for that risk and if it happens it happens. If if it doesn't i still think yields are going to go higher and it will hurt the growthy names. It will hurt the russell named the borough to continue to roll their debt and the thing is also higher. Inflation is going to be higher input costs for these companies. So if you have higher material costs of from whether copper steel or any other commodity those companies are going to have lower margins because they've got to pay more for their Their program close to home. I my wife is turned designer. And she's disease all hell because everybody's moving to connecticut from new york and she was telling me the other day and she's so non market Complete opposite of maine and by the way of just so. Everybody knows my office she. She has two offices here. And i took one office so as you see behind me. It's designed by leeann thornton. But she was telling me that some of her contractors and jobs that are redoing houses. Lumber is incredibly hard to get scientist. expensive it's hard to get so. I think that's going to be a a situation that other commodities could have that same problem. It's hard to get the other thing is energy. Goes up crude prices. Go up and sixty dollars. I think it's kind of a an okay price. It's not gonna cause too many concerns but if that goes up that's going to be like a tax on the consumer and that's going to be difficult for airlines of things but still higher cost of crude and fuel will make it difficult for them and their you know stocks are trading like they've never traded this well before so i think there's a lot of risk out there and it's probably going to happen maybe six months from now after the reopening in after things start to come back to normal. Remember coming back to normal. We're going to be back to a place where of people are going to be a little bit more sensitive looking at earnings looking at valuations and he may get less stimulus of boost. Simple will say. I think going back to normal is going to be a theme for me in you know what. I'm looking out six to nine months a year from now but yet it's such a good point tom. It's very hard to trade stocks when you are going into an office a five or or nine to six but going back to what you said earlier about the fed. The fed has said that the are really not concerned about rising bond yields. They're not gonna do an operation twist as you said which is by the way for people home when the fed reverse switches. It's purchases to buy more long term bonds or to restrict the steepening ilker roar. And they're not going to do. You'll control which is a more dramatic way of covering the control tommy tommy. Let's say that. Let's take the fed at its word and the ten year rises about two percent and the long bonds rise as well. Just pay me a picture of how violent you think it could be for some of these growthy which have wobbled quite significantly over the last month or so. Well i i. I seriously think that it's just going to be. The best case. Scenario could be just think. Oh sideways the worst case scenario. Is we get something like a twenty percent correction now that that would probably take us back to what november It it certainly would wake some people up and we'll we'll see if we get there a you know we could. We could be in for something. More inflation is a very dangerous thing for the markets. And i just don't think people quite understand the implications of that. I mean people want inflation. They want inflate stuff. And it moves things in the upward direction if your commodities or certain assets that it's great but it can also be difficult if you are that contractor looking by lumber and that could be eating into your what you're making or builder builders or buying their building so much because there's a housing boom their input costs are gonna go skyrocketing and it's just it'll be interesting to see if they can pass that along to the consumer. Tom i want. I want to Star i'm very little echo so tom zoom in a little bit on a particular stock that is the epitome of growth stock of somewhat of a mean stock. It's tesla it's retreated from his highs that it was at earlier in the year. I understand you've been buying this as a longtime Talk for a for longtime as something that good is overvalued and could decrease but at the same time you've been very cautious because you you understand risk management and you understand that this is a the amine stock that people believe in very greatly What can you tell me about a test. How how're us right now. Okay so my background is actually the first time i was on religion. I didn't even know is going to be on real vision. I had never been on camera before. I did an interview with marc spiegel. Who's the biggest craziest and one of the nicest shortsellers of tesla. And he's he's like a stand up comedian but anyway It is by far the easiest stock. I've ever seen in my life. And you know i am a carton. I i'm also. I also look valuations. So it's people that love tesla in her. Buying tesla believe in this mission. And i love vs. I think it's great thing Can't wait to get one. But the stock doesn't make any sense from evaluation point of view and last year I was. I was short the stock in march and i did put out a note saying you know not covering mind but if you want to cover it. It's at the two hundred eight moving average and i probably shoulda covered it because it doubled and might might size was not awful Being two fold up. But i basically covered it a two hundred and now it's six hundred so i've recently i started shorting at four hundred. Then they got added the s. and p. and i added some on the snp and the ad. And then i added more. So i i basically have. Nearly a five percent position in this and my average is a little higher than this. I trade options in this thing all the time. And it's a comedy show with those as well. But i think the stocks coming into a bit of reality check and nothing motivates sellers of more than lower prices. So you're starting to lose some sponsorship from the mean guys that were so excited about it and it's it it still hasn't hit the you know the uncle point for a lot of sellers but i i also do think you have some large people in the long-term holders of the stock of ron ron. Baron sold tom and You probably have a lot more. It'll be interesting to see after this last of reporting the thirteen half reporting which i do on and twins laundries well but the bottom line is i think that the stocks and under pressure it's It's not hitting new highs. It's it's i think is off forty percent recently and it's now down i think about thirty percents off the highs and the longer this fails to move in the direction for the bulls. I think that It's going to just cause more of strife now. A couple of things happening with tesla to that. I think is important. You know they were profitable because of the emissions credits that they've been able to get and it's one hundred percent margin for them so their earnings looked great But if you take those out of they haven't been profitable so it's a make or break time for them because they're emissions credits. The had are going to start to decrease probably go way this year. And the other thing is. I don't think demand is back good and i hosted in on twitter chart the other day of a tesla year-over-year of sales a- registrations in europe versus a volkswagen renault and a hyundai and kia and those companies are really ramping up deliveries and tesla's actually down year over year. And i think that it's it's also important to know that the tesla's there it'll be interesting to see in the next week when they report their quarterly delivery number. If this is a difficult thing because there's also a semiconductor shortage and that's gonna affect all automakers including tesla and so you really can't get around that and you know maybe the market will give them a a pass on that. But i think the reality starting to kick in now full self driving is something. There's a video going around. I can't say the name of the is the bs but the person who put it on but it was basically a video of elon. Musk talking about driving autonomy in all these promises that he's made that really haven't come to fruition yet and now i've driven a tesla of driven with the self-driving autonomy that they have it's level to it's not level five and level five is full autonomy. And that's where the market is you know the or people tesla the bought this for ten thousand dollars. They want and they're starting to get antsy. So i was on the tesla reddit. Boards and serious people are saying you know we really want. This and i'm worried are they. Were saying they're worried because they feel like tested. Have a class action suit or regulators could say you know. This isn't ready for prime time. You're beta testing this in the open open roads and there's tons of videos of it not working properly or moving in the wrong lane and it's just extraordinary but you know have saying that i just worry that you're going to see some like tragic accident finally wake up a regulators to say. Hey this is level to this is not level five. They're advertising it as full. Self-driving people are paying for it. It's not there yet. it's not. There's no robo taxis Taxes that are going to happen. Two thousand and twenty one. Maybe not even for the next couple of years. That's my prediction. you know. Gosh let's see we are so there is so much there to unpack. It is so fast enough. We could talk about this for hours. But but really quick as we as we approach to close Could you mention hedge your your research service. 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But as soon as this is over we will put a link to to hedge fund telemetry in the description. Tommy i gotta talk we are. We're running a little bit over time. But we got really quickly. Talk about tesla because you were just on fire a few minutes ago. When you're talking about that oh my god. There's the there's the self-driving thing there's the emissions credits the facts that wouldn't have included in the s. and p. five hundred if it Didn't have those four three quarters of prophets which it got from the emissions credits Tell tell people about that video. Because you i saw today. It really was shocking. Mosque has been the world's richest man. He has been promising. Self-driving since twenty fifteen maybe twenty fourteen and self driving technology just really isn't there as you say it's level two and you have people who are still level five in their cars. They're they're taking naps. They're going in the back seat while this robot that is supposedly super-safe is dragging them around you. What do you think this ends. Well i'll give you the best case. Scenarios elon. Musk is a genius and all the promises that he made Come to fruition of. That would be amazing. That was you know. Elevate the entire world. But i don't think it's going to happen or i don't think it's going to happen within the timeframe the he's talked about i think arc of new price target is completely ridiculous so i look i think the worse case scenario is the stock just continues to drift. Lower and competition is ramping. I think there's going to be better. Quality companies is tons of tesla problems online and look at tesla service issues in. It's just atrocious. So i think there's going to be a competition and people are going to rethink. But i don't have to buy tesla so maybe i'll by the ford machi a one thing about a arc in kathy would I'm just telling you this earlier. But they're their report that they put out just had tons of assumptions and crazy things that valuation for their insurance company. That doesn't really exist and crazy stuff but all their old reports and calling for a four thousand dollar price which i thought was completely insane and it really is but she was right so the way i look at it as She hit a hole in one but she shanked it off of a tree on a cart path and into the whole. Now it's a hole in one and you're gonna mark one on your your scorecard but it's the ugliest shot ever and you know. God bless her. she's done so well. And i think some of that good stuff that she's been able to accomplish. His you know had her inflows up 10x in the last year you know. She's used to buying these little liquid names. And tesla's than things that just go skyrocketing up and they worked but now you have like she was maneuvering. Pt boat and now she's got an aircraft carrier in its little harder to turn that around or really get it accelerating so. I think it's going to be a challenge for her on actually short of the arc funding. And it's working. But i i also think that just like we saw today with the liquidity of one of these big funds out there. She's got a terrible liquidity of squeeze. That could happen and that that's a that's a risk. If i was long that i thought would be the first thing i'd be worried about. Are you. you're talking about that. They own stocks in illiquid names. And they've just gotten so big that they now own ten twenty twenty five percent of those stocks. That's talking about. And and i can tell you that i've worked on an institutional you know hedge fund trading dusk and we used to calculate days to cover on our shorts in days to liquidate. And she's got a real problem with some of those that are more than ten days liquidate if that happens and the other thing is when i was at a hedge fund. We didn't redemptions every day or potential redemptions of so. We weren't really at risk of that but she could. Just it's an etf someone can just say. I've had enough amount and they're gone is well. Even worse is that. She publishes all of her positions updated every night. Now i guess i didn't know this because it's an i didn't learn this but it's an active. Etf so you have to publish all your positions every night. I mean that's like the worst case scenario because if you know if people see that you're selling tesla they're going to pounce on it or sell it there along with you and i think that's just you know i i mean i think it's you know it's amazing. She's promoted herself and now has ten x An assets but it's it's you know. She runs a risk absolutely. Tommy this has been absolutely fascinating discussion discussing with you. But we're we're going to have to leave it there. Thank you so much joining sear fierce. Hey go home here. Maybe the market closed market closed at four pm markets. Never sleep but they do take a nap at four pm And i think they want to get a little A entertainment analysis from one of the best researchers in. I think he's in the game. And that is you tommy. so people at home. If you're watching us on youtube please smash that can subscribe button. Can grow the daily briefing channel That's my request number one. My second request is check out. Tom thornton at hedge fund telemetry. Tom thanks so much for joining us. Thanks jack

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Weekend Stakes Preview Presented by NYRA Bets - September 25th 2020

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Weekend Stakes Preview Presented by NYRA Bets - September 25th 2020

"Welcome to the weekend stakes preview on the horse racing radio network presented by naira bets. Maximum security and spun to run one to as they come for the top of the stretch looking at bikinis third and on the inside bowel. Harbor is four three quarters went in one eleven and they're in the. Maximum security has to Lake Lead respond to Rod. Now, maximum security opens up in front by three spun to run in Second Chew Tipper on the outside and third at maximum security is GONNA put the exclamation point on his three year old season. He smoked them in the second mile maximum security all respond to run that true temper looking at. Now, here's Anthony Stabile and Bobby Newman. Good evening everyone. Welcome to the weekend takes preview funded by Nyerere. Becks here on the horse racing radio network. I'm the big a anthony show high atop the Finish Line Beautiful Belmont Park as we get ready for tomorrow's Vasbert winning you're in for the Readers Cup sprint down in Florida Bobby Newman. At the controls, our producer Lee Dela Pena, he's back in our Lexington Kentucky Studios a dozen races for you on this Friday evening tons of winning your action. You get a bonus day of the big and Bobby Tomorrow night from six thirty to eight, thirty three about that in just a little bit what's happening Bobby Is Getting Ready for a big weekend my friend Glad to see Santa Anita back in action of course, they've got a great stakes races both tomorrow and Sunday Belmont with some Nice races tomorrow back up north of the border at. Woodbine. Middle America Churchill downs. So all over the globe for this weekend's weekend steak preview. Seven. Women Year ends tomorrow a couple more on Sunday plan all. OVER AT NAIRA BATS DOT com the PROMO CODES HR aren. Twenty. Two hundred dollars deposit match bonus had over the narrow bets dot Com for more details a cross country pick five tomorrow involving racists from Belmont, park and Churchill downs preakness next week. And the track anyplace anytime you can play over at Nyerere Bats Dot com or let's get right into the action. Again you can hear us tomorrow night. Six thirty to eight thirty on that San Anita coverage when your inaction for by Breeders, Cup series through Nineteen Xm to a one bobby and I will cover the two hours of action capped off by the awesome again Bob Baffert. Duo of maximum security, her Jimmy call on the Cigar Mile last year, he'll be reunited for the first time with Lewis Sayas since taking Neth. Saudi Cup. Louis back a board for the first time and the first time for trainer Bob. BAFFERT will take on improbable as well as Midcourt, a couple of others, and then also we talk about later on in this program at Belmont a couple of steaks on Saturday before the Vase Berg, the grade three noble damsels on the turf for the Phillies in mayors. And up flat mile out of the widener shoot. So the outer force here Field of nine on the turf ten total one of the main track only the another broad nine turf three headed monster for trainer. Chad Brown. Here's the one via Dera. The four blow out and the as the seven nor Sahara. This. Is a race I'm even having trouble figuring out who's actually going to be favored in the race I. Know The morning line favorite is number four blowout. But to me, you know she doesn't really look any better than three or four of the other ones in the field. The best thing that she has going for is that she's the speed of the field and shouldn't have much problem getting the lead the unfortunately. That doesn't guarantee her victory. She's made the lead unopposed in four of our last five starts. And she didn't win four of those five. In fact, she's made the leading each of her last five starts cheese lost four of those five. So. Blow going GonNa make the lead. It's just a question of whether she can take them all the way. The one to beat her last time out was sweet by and by for Tony Detro- and Jose Lezcano got odds of three to one in a pretty highly rated allowance race I know that technically, this is tougher competition facing graded stakes competition today. But she has. Run well in graded stakes in the past and I think she can catch blow out again and score again at a decent price. Oh, I'm going to try sweet by and by to get her second straight win. She's seventy two on the morning line. Yeah she like bobby say got by blowout she's one here at Belmont Park? In the past was second last year in the Athenian Athenian behinds an OB A-. I think she had to win this race I'M GONNA go back to the well from opening week at Saratoga via Dera when she came over from. Europe. Chad. Ran Her in the train rather than the continental behind she was the end of a chat round. Super sure like newspaper of Record Regal Laurie significant. Form. Newspaper of record one of the top Phillies in his barn. And he ran her cert-. Going seven furlongs broke from the rail needed. The race came back went the mile. She's a perfect three for three at the mile and she got the money in Saratoga under beautifully timed ride by Joel Rosario. I. Think this is going to unfold pretty similarly and I think she's going to get another good trip and you know I went to via Darah I thought bill. Macho one of the number three shallower ran well. In all three of her starts in the US and the Churchill in Saratoga I know the figure came back a little faster last time in the perfect scheme behind field glorious but I though her best racers when she wanted dome onto starts back calling this mile distance. On the widener turf course so I'll use a little shore. I'll use blow out as well and I'll use. Sahara who just missed a via Dera last time. To cut back the mile off a mile and an eighth loss at three, two two is going to help because last time I think two miles she wants do I think nor Sahara's GonNa run well again but I went to number one via Dara's cop pick eight goes as the grade three noble. Damsel race number nine is the grade to Vasbert hundred and fifty thousand on the line to win and you're in for the Breeder's cup sprint six furlongs volatile was supposed to be in here he was retired on Monday. Steve asmussen going to be represented by engage. Anyway who? Finished fourth just four links to the Breeder's cup sprint. Last November adds that was last time we've seen engaged looks like it's going to be one start before the sprint this year and the communist Bosberg Couple of in here. Funny Guys GonNa take someone he was a good fourth in the forego over the sloppy track at Saratoga last time timber was just ahead of him by about a length. In that forego. Their five to nine in the morning line respectively lean good old for forensic fires here as well. So the big question mark is obviously engage Steve. asmussen. How big is this horse can run off a lengthy lay-off. Where you would think the ultimate goal is once again, the Breeder's Cup sprint for all the great things that Steve Asmussen and his team do all the races they win how great they are with first-time starters, things like that bringing horses back off extended layoffs is not one of their best traits they're clicking at about fourteen percent over the last couple of years, and although that sounds pretty good fact, that's better than. Most trainers would love to have fourteen percent of long layoffs compared to what the Asmussen bar normally hit sat at around the twenty per eighteen twenty, twenty, two percent clip with other stats. You know I'm not sure that this is their best spot. So I'm wondering if engaged may need a race to finally hit his stride. That, I'm leaning toward number five forensic fire in this spot forensic fire. Ran In the forego last time out, you remember it was just a total bog at Saratoga that day not only was it a sloppy track. It was pouring that afternoon win win win came from the clouds. Trainer by Tram better was actually interviewed after the race. He couldn't see win win win anywhere even on the TV's he couldn't find win win win and it wasn't until the chocolate popped up on the TV and he heard John Embryos call but he knew that win win win was closing so forensic fire ran poorly on a day where he had an excuse to run poorly he isn't as good on a wet track as he is on a dry track he's one on a wet track in the past. But I think is dry track efforts are much better. So I'm blind through that race his previous starts definitely make him one of the ones to beat in this spot. He won the true north very impressively he ran a good race behind volatile and whitmore and mind control in the vanderbilt. Any one of those three would probably be favored if they were in the Vosper tomorrow forensic fire seventy, two on the morning line loves Belmont Park. Hoping for a dry track I think he gets back to the winner's circle. Yeah I'm with you. I'm surprised. That I'm surprised they random last month 'cause Kelly Brennan said, you know I'm somewhat tracks anymore and they ran them anyway. He loves on Park he's agreed one winner having won the two thousand seventeen champagne over this horse going mile he loves his six Franz Listen. He's GonNa. Close to being to millionaire Your toes able scout tomorrow to Jose. Wisconsin once back in the grave. Flawless, ride that day when he beat stablemate happy farm this backward in the Jason. Servicemen. I've always been a fan of the source and if you look at his form from this year. Does he belong running against call more network effect on the corner they came back around one two in the. I don't know the volatile racist kind of that miracle round in the Vanderbilt. He caught a sloppy track in the forego What do you do? You know this is a considerable drop down for him. I thought he made a lot of sense I ought to be. The tours race for everything you said about engage I agree I, think he might need one true timber you know depending on what the four share the ride does who drew just found this incredible speed. The hadn't seen in two years last time If true timber gets that the front here he was game is could be in the forego going seven. Now he clicked back to six a distance. He's a three time winner at in fact, he's run six times at six furlongs in his cruise through for six he's one for twenty. At other distances one for twenty. Last six furlong has has his card was two years ago in an allowance optional claiming that he won going six. Right radio at Belmont Park. So He makes a lot of sense to me. I thought it was one and fives I put friendly fire on top as well. Reese nine goes as the Vasbert will recap them Osberg on that program tomorrow night at. Six thirty here on the network presented by Breeders Cup race number three at woodbine tomato rap segment one, grade three, Ontario fashioned six frowns on the all weather. Field of six in here in his six to five morning line favorite the three painting whose cross entered in a race later on in the afternoon, it would mind. When they six to five and a great three usually don't usually don't scratch for a restricted stakes race bobby. Now I agree with that and obviously painting is one of the ones to beat in this spot. She's affiliate who's got a nice closing kick and it looks on paper like there should be you know some pace in the field I don't know if it'll be a breakneck pace, but there should be some pace sister. Peacock has speed I think number one SAV is very interesting though in that she's GonNa be my top choice. First of all I think she's more consistent than painting. She not only runs well on both the turf and the all weather track that they have their at woodbine she can run well showing speed he can run well stocking to pay. She's actually closed at some points in her career. So I think the Jockey Justin, Stein, who wins it Obama twenty one percent clip so far this meat has plenty of options. With this daughter of big screen seventy, two on the morning line boy she hasn't been seventy two that any of her last six starts three, two, one, two, two, one, five, two to three to five, three to five, three to five. If you can get seven to two on Sav who almost never run a bad race I. think it's hard to pass that up and I think she's going to get the jump on painting. I picked painting not surprisingly here. I don't like that case of second either the sources has suffered from I don't like it but that she just found the right bunch tomorrow and I'll try painting a short price Patrick husbands four, Josie Carroll. 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Hey escorial enter you listen to the Horse Racing Radio Network This is the weekend stakes preview presented by naira bets may run to the top of the stretch of the razorback and warriors charged still leads snappers in Clare and bank it alongside, and here's banking change a takeover the lead from warriors charged warriors, charges, kind of battle right back, bank it outside the charge inside them throw down. Warriors. Chart Bank kid warriors charged. Yes. Warriors charged turned away bank it and the razorback maybe pioneer spirit for third. I haven't heard. The, screaming. Of Vic style run allow that was all or you're charging the razorback. He'll try the act back tomorrow at Church welcome back to weekends. By Nara Bats here on H. R.. R. N.. Lots going on this weekend can't get to everything but we can tell you about some other stakes and that's going to be right now it's time. Now for the doors news update look at the top headlines from blood horse DOT COM. Shared. Sense. 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We'll tackle that final stakes of that. Short. Late summer meet at Churchill downs, degree, three act echoes as race number nine, hundred, thousand on the line flat mile out of the Chute. Got To figure. This is a little bit of a dress rehearsal for the great one Breeders Cup Dirt Mile On. November seventh at Keeneland big difference will be this is one turn Mile A to turn mile at Keeneland big field, and he our field of thirteen ever fast comes off offers effort in the Bosberg Ebben for Steve. Margolis has won three in a row. And you have the night, the favourite warriors charge who was put up. In the grade three is Lynn. Pirates beat them on beat them that afternoon and they'll beat him on the swear that afternoon came back to win. That's the Salvador mile at Monmouth last weekend. And warriors charge figures to send out to the front like he seemingly always does normally the inside post for these one turn miles is not the place to be when you have as much speed as warriors. Charge has I. don't think that's going to bother them the what may bother them is the fact that American anthem is drawn outside of an American anthem is a sprinter who's got some speed and as easily as fast as early on. As warriors charge if Jimmy Graham decides to send American anthem toward the front pioneer spirit another one who has some speed in the race so Even homebase has speed. So I went with somebody from off the pace in what is the term you use when you find one? That's a little bit kind of off the wall. Fuzzy. I think I'm trying for one in here and I'm went way to the outside lucky number thirteen ever fast for Jackson and Julian Laprud ever fast ran in that same screwball forego that win win win one at Saratoga where it was just a total bog and not only that ever fast and already tried what tracks twice in his career and like we said about forensic fire earlier, he doesn't run as well on wet tracks as he does on dry track. So I'm throwing that last race for fast out it really wasn't a bad race. He was only five lengths behind win win win at the end he won his previous start against allowance competition. He's never wanted Churchill but he's run sneakily well at Churchill he ran at. Churchill in the blame back in May and he was only beaten a half length by Owen del while finishing ahead of silver dust and I think a repeat at effort is good enough to put him right there. With this field I love the outside post I love the fact that he's worked well, coming into this race I think he's going to have some pace to run at I'm GONNA try ever fast ten to one to get a good trip from that outer post. So, you got two problems here. No getting to one and I like him. I'm a fan of this I got beat by Owen Dow. In the blame. would. A huge effort almost got the money that day? and. I. I'm not sold on warriors charge. I'm not sold. Quite honestly that. Turns don't, help this horse. And his running style I don't. He doesn't have a win going to turn going one turn on his car. Run one turn a lot in his in his defense. He's only done it three times. you to be just two links in the met mile. But he was pretty easy pace that day in. Mile. And a couple of sprint races back at Churchill on Oaklawn to start his Korea. He's also kind of horse that to me. God good. For. About a year. And you know, yeah, you got by by my standards coma and you know the race last time he was the one that was two point he got a pretty easy leading. By pirates, lunch pirates fund from you improving but. I don't know what you would you want pirates function here. I don't know if I won't pirate luncheon here. he can absolutely win. They're getting. American. Anthem back to what you think he'd WanNa do one turn seven, eight through one turn mile. He makes a little sense. I think Mr money makes a little sense. I think gave size pull the trigger a little too soon in the blame that wide trip and he gets impulsivity the I I thought this was a very tough race I think you have the respect Edmund? WHO's just on? A really nice. Run my right now, five year old son a trap shot is getting better. I put been on top I made Evan my topic but I'm using. I'm using ever fast I'm using. Mr Money Amusing American anthem, and I'm reluctantly using warriors charge the topic will be Evan The streaking Ebben race number nine goes into the great three. Act Act all right out to the great race police we go. Six winning your ends. Tomorrow, we'll cover four of them live. We'll cover two of them on the lay. Here's one of the ones underway the ray to chandelier two, hundred, thousand mile and a sixteenth four, the two year old phillies. Win Winning you're in for the juvenile fillies field of just five Bob. BAFFERT has three boy told her about making sure race goes princess perfect to for to for Baffert. Tell you what her numbers have not come up speed figures on the slow side seventy, six, seventy, nine, one, one five and a half hundred debut against maidens one against winners in the grade one del Mar debutante last time out they paid one point, three, five, million. Boy You. Look at a philly her bobby paid this for her as a two year old by not this time out of a wilco Maher. That's an awful lot of Scott. All as we like to see in the neighborhood. Yet they bought her out of the OB spring two year old and training sales. So she obviously not only looked good and pedigree wise. They liked her but she must have worked well under attack because that's what you get to see what these two year old and training sales and let's face it. She's done nothing wrong so far if you pay him million three and a half four. She's done what you're hoping. She's done. She's already a grade one winner after two starts and she's going to be one to five to win the grade to chandelier. The not this times it's too early to know how far they're going to want to go. But on the damn side being out of a Wilco mayor I would think that stretching out would not. Do anything but help her chances she's drawn well toward the inside. She went wire-to-wire under debut. She said just off the pace winning at seven furlongs so so far she looks like she's kind of versatile and you know what You may think that her speed figures are little on the slow side but compared to the other ones in this field there on the quick side and she's probably going to win this race I put her on top the only other one I would be I would even use is the longest price in the field along price at the baffert trainees number three Varda who look good breaking her maiden in her debut But she's going to have to improve to beaten princess nor on Saturday. I picked Varda. Just a little bit of a different look. New York bred daughter of distorted humor but that I liked her I liked her debut. Better than the rest of the races I've seen run by the PHILLIES. Better than either of the racist by Francis nor I liked her debut. I think they're horses like you do. I just slipped them around and put Varda on top won't be prince or just beat these horses but. Varta improves Florida can give her a little bit of a headache and she's GonNa be five times the price. So Varda for me. With princess nor reason number three goes as the grey to Chandelier race number five might be one of the most interesting races of the weekend. It's the speakeasy. It's a winner in for the Juvenile Turf Sprint hundred thousand on the line though five and a half furlongs on the turf. You have. Three first-time starters in here. All from the same born. We talked about this yesterday on. Race Day. I've never seen this before ever in my life. In in fact, it's nearly impossible. For Training Three first time starters in America in one race. Because maiden races they disallow it more often than not the only later on to. But here's Doug on the run in three now in Saratoga this summer I got a few on Doug Neil Horses I was told that there's no pedigree can raw can run a little bit. The number two. So keep that in mind he's six to one the one, the great one And then you have horses that have run on for a couple of Phillies in here amasi imperial, the number five and nine feathers affiliates, well, very interesting renewal of the speak easy bobby. And not only are those three first time starters kind of throw A. Wrench, in everything, they're all working different places. The great ones been working at del Mar. No pedigree was working at Saratoga Basque man was working at San Louis rate. So it's a guessing game, I normally would think that Mario Gutierrez would ride the best of the three and he's riding the one. You mentioned no pedigree. There are a lot of information go I'm going to say this though the two of them in here that are the morning line favorites commander Kai Amasi, pillow I don't like. Commander. Looks good on paper I. Think the races that he ran del Mar were a little on the slowest side. AMASI pillow is is affiliate trying the boys for the first time shipping across country she ran well at Saratoga. Last time out in a race was. Dominated by Toby's heart blinkers coming back off I. Don't know if they're trying to get her to rate or not. It's not the spot I like for. Their several different Asiago I'm going to spread in this race but I think my top choices can be number six fury cap for. John. Sadler and Tiago Pereira ran very well. Winning Tampa in his career debut on the main track there for a trainer that. Does. Not Win very many races. In fact, is one for thirty nine as of right now this year and it's not like John. Sadler is winning at the same percentages Chad Brown todd pletcher. Saffy Joseph up upwards of thirty percent. But he's a solid sixteen, seventeen percent and. These people that he trains for? Racing. Have a pretty good is so I expect fury capped run well off the layoff and for the new barn. Don't know about switching to turf just moderator of breeding there being by ferry kapkory out of Omarosa. That debut. So Fury Cap, my top choice to be honest I'm probably GONNA use three or four in the race. I'm using the two five and seven I'm GonNa make no pedigree. My topic is on the information I got Saratoga which is pretty good The five, a month appeal gets Lewis is out there for the weekend Wesley Ward. And Louis give a team up and then why fire Louis Mendez was a trainer who we saw a lot of earlier in the San. Enemy and he won't like half of his two year olds. This one didn't win till delmore they sold the source after the race. I don't know where they sold the source for, but he's by dominant of Siberian some a lot of pedigree on paper. So to five, thousand, seven from me, no pedigrees top pick race number five is five and a half on the turf and you're in for the juvenile turf sprint the speak easy one, hundred, thousand on the line. All right. We'll take a break we're halfway home. On this edition of the program when we come back more winning your inaction from the Great. Race Place Anthony, you're listening through the weekend stakes preview presented by by bats here on. HR in. That and watch the races worldwide from the palm of your hand with Nyra bets sign up for Nyra bets today and take advantage of from your perks with the best live racing. Misery plays in HD exclusive promotions and earn points on every bet sign up for today with the Promo Code H. R. Twenty under Deposit Match Bonus of up to two hundred dollars again that's H. R. N. Twenty with Nyra Bet you can bet any track anywhere at any time head over an IRA best dot. com. One. In three adults has pre diabetes one in three. 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Hey everyone, this is mike panel the Baron of the backstretch join me every Saturday morning from eight to ten am eastern on the equine forum each week covering interviews with the biggest names in racing as I take you inside the world, the thoroughbred racing and breeding, and discuss the sports hottest topics. So make plans to join me every. Saturday. Morning from eight ten am eastern. It's the equine forum unserious two thousand to nineteen Xm to one and streaming worldwide horse racing radio DOT net. Okay, this is. Carl Nascar. Listened. To HR. In. This is the weekend stakes preview presented by naira abets their stride I drive with a quarterback mouth ago mu-chou unusual waiting some racing room keys. Far, outside Apache princesses, they're and be inside comes lady. There for. Finding Room. Side mutual unusual takes mu-chou unusual. For the wire on the outside unusual. Brilliant. Job Bravo to win the American. Mojo. Unusual was a huge second then between pretty point and Giza artist battling third and fourth. Lady, Prance, Alon, Muccio, unusual hook back. Up. In The rodeo drive tomorrow afternoon at the great race. Place Welcome back to the weekend stakes preview was into by naira bats here on HR in the big A and Bobby Newman taking you through a fantastic Friday evening this day Dr Kickoff our live coverage of women your day from the great race place covered. By the Breeders Cup six thirty to eight thirty tomorrow night series to nineteen. Xm To a one shrimp live at horse racing radio dot net played along narrow dot com opened a brand new account using. Promo. Code H.. R.. R. N. twenty. And then. Bet You hundred to get you hundred. Again the Promo Code is H. R. Twenty there's A. Cross country pick five tomorrow with some racist from Churchill downs and Belmont Park. You can find out more information over at NAIRA BETS DOT COM. All right bobby this field of seven in that Rodeo, drive will kick off our live coverage tomorrow night lady prints lot hasn't won since that American oaks and she'll look to get back in the win column for the first time this year. And the issue that Lady Prance Lot has almost everyone in this field has they all have kind of similar running styles. Nobody really goes to the lead there either stalker mid pack closing types and If you scroll up and down or search left and right whether you're whatever past performances using trying to figure out who actually is going to make lead in this spot. Once, you think you kind of have a grip on it like I don't know I mean. I. Think Number One ton of Hutu may be the fastest early on of the others, but she's never made the lead in her last start. So it's not like she's can be relied on to to go to the front and maybe maximum rate who's been close up early times but she's better closing. So I wanted to pick somebody who has proven to run well, closing against slow paces and I ended up with number three. Boeta cheetos the second choice on the morning line for. Richard Baltics and flabby and Pratt. Not only is a cheat a closed despite slow paces like she did the yellow ribbon last time out she's run very well at Santa Anita. She's got the southern California's top rider. Flavian Pratt is aboard as usual and she's just been a win machine since coming to southern California and most of those wins I said at Santa Anita. So I don't know who's going to the right trip but I think all things equal. I trust boat a Cheetah more than the others in this spot. You. Know you mentioned I think the thing? That needs to be. Strongly, pointed out from what you said. Save border cheese consistency and I think she can win. I think it's going to be very interesting to see who plays the aggressor. In this race. And I think the aggressor Can take a little bit of an edge. I'd be surprised if it wasn't able said the O. N.. Donahue from the rail who she just become a little bit of a different philly since she was claimed by Doug on L. Four starts back. He's never had a chance to run her at Santa Anita and she's only run Really. Two good races sanity of the last one she was claimed out of. And she has a race. Let two years ago in the restricted swing time where she ran behind affiliate who was who was winning races and make fond rented ninety four best speed figure of a career. And she did that from well off the pace but they were going forty four and change. Now it seems like Doug as put a little speed into her she's not too far from these forty six and change have. And I think what would takes the? Initiative tomorrow. Deal. I think. Tana, who do I made her my top pick. I would not be surprised if the person right next door sized at the initiative with maximum rate now. She wasn't GonNa Mile to back on my own three eighths last time out. She's she needs to find some some more ground. She needs to make up some more distance between the top phillies in here. And herself as opposed to Tana. WHO. And I think Tom Ehud who has the edge hopefully. Are, on, the lead I made my topic, I think it's a wide open race wide open renewal of the grade one day drive winning you're in for the breeders, Cup Filly and mayor. Race number eight degrees. One awesome. Again when in for the juvenile my sixteenth on the main track, we get a field of eight in here I don't know what it is I. Don't know if it's the covid nineteen outbreak did not a lot of fast who you're out in California last now right now at least not in those racist tomorrow Bob Averaging around a maiden and Spielberg, he was second to Doctor Chevelle in both of his starts a maiden race at del Mar in the neck one dome off utility So baffert has him as the as a three to one on the morning line get her number two, the outside. Rain well but. Ranting Turf Races Peter Miller and fluffy and. Notable exception ran well in his debut for Jackson Academy Farm but he did it over the all weather at only thing. So a lot of holes when almost everyone in this field. I agree and I think that the you know this is a rare instance where the girls seem faster than the boys at least what we're looking at tomorrow with the Chandelier and the awesome again, and you mentioned Dr Shovel who was sold our. moved to new connections after his last win, and we just got word that he is going to be out for the rest of the year giving him arrest to try to get him back and cranked up for a three year old campaign. I'm sure Spielberg and his connections are not sad to see Dr Shiva go because he has not been able to match strides with Dr Shiva thus far doesn't have to worry about him tomorrow and I don't usually like taking a maiden against winners in stake race. But. This may be the right way to go. He certainly bread to handle the two turns being by Union rags out of Smart Strike Mayor, I think he may be able to. There's other speed in the field but I think spiel. Spielberg Spielberg. Forwardly, placed and I think he'll handle the two turns I trust in Bob Baffert two year olds more than just about anyone else's especially out in southern California. So I put him on top the only other one I would use is number one touchdown brown who's a cow bread facing open competition for the first time thing I'm worried about with touchdown Brown aside from the fact that he I think he may be bred to be more of a sprinter than a router he ran very well last time out in the I'm smokin stakes he finished second only beaten half a length was well herb everyone else's four clear the third or twelve clear the fourth horse. In a race that I think maybe the best of what anyone else run in this field that was with blinkers added that day. Now, the blinkers come back off on Sedro off his best effort I, I'm kind of scratching their head wondering will what what were they hoping for? I mean he ran they added the blinkers. He ran extr so much better than he had been running in his previous two starts. And he's got beat only a half length in a stake we're gonNA, take the blinkers off that worries me and that's probably the reason I didn't put him on top of Spielberg for me. Yeah, he makes a Lotta Sense. I didn't know what to do in here I. I went to I. Took a look at to rumble our who's gone long twice They got this. So the weird thing with him is they have him on the turf. None of the the two foals. WHO TRIED TURF didn't win on the turf. One of them ran okay. Put their dirt sprinters and now he's going to a dirt route but his route races have been good I-. I Reluctantly took. To. WHO's making the surface which is at the very least. Yes. Some Foundation underneath I'm using him in Spielberg and my multi-race plays this. I was I was at a loss for with this race Like. You know a big fan of maidens in graded stakes races but. especially, red ones with this Spielberg looks like he's the best dirt horse in the race and. Run Bauer the very least has the has the to distance races under his belt. So they're the two I'll put our on top much bigger price receipt causes the grade one American foul race nine winning you're in but they'll run the grade three John Henry Turf Championship. going around a quarter. And United's back six to five united suffered a rare defeat last time red king beat him del Mar Handicap. He gets back to the great race place where he's earned over a million dollars most of it when wanting second and my bricks and mortar in the breeders. Cup Turf last year beating just ahead a huge number fifty one to one boy. Two good horses. Don't know how to read the tote board Ha he'd been offended. For a horse that never been higher higher than. Fifteen to one in his career and the starts around that. rears. Cup. Five to seven or two, eight, two, five to two, one, even money four to five, six, five, seven, five, three to five. United figures to be back at even money wings tomorrow afternoon. Yeah and he's going to be tough to be. He loves it at Santa Anita, and he has a pace advantage over the rest of this field. He's not a front runner. But he has the ability to lay close to the pace and most of these others. Don't have that ability. They WANNA come from way out of it including the ones who looked like the biggest threats to him originator comes from way out of it. Next shares when he runs his good races closes some ground Oscar Dominguez likes to come from way out of it united. I think if he could find himself on the lead just crawling around there, and if that happens I just don't think that going to be able to get by them I tried to get creative. To be honest I think he's going to get such the trip in this spot that it's hard to deny. I agree I think Salvator Mundi. Might try and take them wire-to-wire. That was the I thought. Maybe we would try to get cutesy. And try and sneak off to delete here. 'cause man I mean literally. You can see almost any of them on leave right this is no speed nurse. And you're probably right Pratt's probably supposed to put united on the leader. No a Lotta guys don't like to in that. He's never been in front. He's been just off leading never been in front. I wouldn't be surprised if a horse like Salvator Mundi tried to track bottom them out in here That's what I would do. If I had one of these referrals I I would try and bottom the field out I. don't know how else are you going to be united? I really don't I'm thinking of making a cold three, four, three, five rather would salvator Monday just a two speed number reversed at the end but united just looks to Tuffy he or he ordinarily does but. Tomorrow. He really just looks way to make a Colt forty five with Salvator Mundi second race number nine goes is that great to John Henry Turf? We'll take one more break. We'll come back. We have one war review on Saturday what's the Big One? The awesome. Again, we a couple of winning your INS on Sunday from the great race place. We'll get all of that. You know about the equine forum guest list and tell you again about our broadcast tomorrow night when we return and wrap this edition of the weekend stakes preview presented by bets on HR. And locked the races worldwide from the palm of your hand with Nyra vets sign up for bets today and take advantage of premier perks with the best live racing minster replays in hd exclusive promotions and earn points on every bet sign up for today with the Promo Code. H? RN Twenty hundred posit match bonus of up to two hundred dollars again that's H. R.. Twenty with nyra batch. You can bet any track anywhere at any time head over to an IRA dot. 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That's how you start your Saturday with the equine form and it with us with women. Your inaction presented by the Breeders Cup part of that women in action will be the great one. Awesome. Again, reached number ten the final stakes on the card, a mile and a half chasing three hundred, thousand grade one winning in for the Breeders Cup classic. Maximum security your three to five morning line favorite eight to five second choice too improbable Bob Baffert trains both embarrassment of riches for him. In that awesome again bobby. Yeah and a little bit surprising running against each other. This is not a move that you see from Bob Baffert that often we talked about it. Earlier in the week that you know wonder what the decision was if this was more owner driven than anything of why improbable a maximum security are facing off against each other Bob Baffert, not afraid to ship his horses, different parts of the country. Could easily have seen one of these to show up in the Jockey Club. Gold Cup or you know maybe somewhere keen. Linda. For prepped for the breeders. Cup. But they're both staying at Santa Anita and They. Look like the big to in the race. There is a lot of speed in the awesome. Again, some of the speed in my opinion doesn't look like it's capable of beating this field number one, take the one. Oh, one is very fast I. Don't think he's quite as talented as as some of these other horses. Number three sleepy is todd very, very nice runner who destroyed a field Charles town classic last time out this feels a lot tougher than that field. He was able to make lead pretty easily going slow fractions that day I don't see that happening on Saturday midcourt I don't know what kind of runner he is. He used to be a closer he's gone to the lead he kind of can do everything. And you never know what you're going to get from him. Maximum security. He's never far out of it and then improbable he's another one that's never more than two or three lengths off the pace. So I think the pace they should be pretty well grouped most of the way around the track all things being equal if maximum security. Gets. Just, a trip as good as anyone else in the field. He's better than this field. He's rounding back into form for Bob? BAFFERT Who Got Him Jason Service the we haven't seen thus far in the to start for Baffert. The form that we saw for maximum security at the beginning of twenty twenty or the end of twenty, nineteen racist that would just mall this field but he did show a lot of improvement from the San. Diego handicapped the Pacific Classic even though he likes to be in front, he's shown that he doesn't have to have the lead the still run well, he's reunited with his regular rider the we Sayas. As long as he does not get in some ridiculous speed duel I think he's the one to beat and I actually think he's the strongest one at the end of the race too so. Not much. Creativity, but maximum security I hope he wins I would love to see him go into the Breeders Cup in good form and and maybe we'll get to see that dream match of maximum security in Tis the law in our Thentihpei Tom's Day ta and by my standards all in good form when we see the first Saturday in November. You know I keep trying to compare. I. Always used against the source and. He's Kinda won me over I. I don't know. I'm pretty sure. He is the most talented horse in the race. I feel very confident saying that. But I do wonder it's only post five and this. Is there somebody in here. Their plans on giving him fits on the front end. Is slee is todd under instructions suggest go. Is Take the one on one from the rail under just go. Just. Go we talked about this a little bit yesterday. Like filling in mayor race where you're looking for some residual breeding value if they get placed in a grade one. you know no offense but. Improbable. and. Maximum security. The only two horses getting Stud deals out of this field at some point. In their life we know mid-course gelding. The other two you know look into to dress up a a pedigree page here. So that means you you should be trying to win and I don't see how one of them doesn't just try and go all out. Early on, I don't understand I don't know how else you can beat them and I guess that's the only way you could beat them but. That recent San Diego whether it was by design or not. It showed that he could pass horses. And now he gets his regular rider back so. I don't know if there is a way he can get beat I guess the way to beat is. A lot of people think McKinsey got beat last year in this race either and he did He's probably about abortion Mackenzie going a distance or ground It's hard for me to look past them. At, the same time if I'm playing pick four or pick five I'm using improbable with him he's a horse and is that I never had any faith in but he's getting better his last two races are clearly the best races of his career and You know maybe he's the kind horse where now halfway through his four year old year, he's hitting his stride. and let's let's not forget. Improbable was actually favored over maximum security in the Kentucky Derby last year. So. It's not like this is just some out of the blue this horse come from I. Think he's just like you said he's get. He is reaching the potential that I think a lot of people thought he had a year and a half ago. Yeah he's. He's the one. You know he he could be the one that if you're an improbable fan, you're GONNA to get to one on him to five Horsfield tomorrow. So I'm using the both of them but I'll make maximum security to top pick race number ten goes as the grade one. Awesome. Again, Sunday a couple of winning your into the great to. the staff race number four on the Sunday card, just a field of five, and here they're gonNA try hard not to love around two-thirds again, caught her back to a sprint. Please enough she's she's proven enough I think harvest moon than ever three comes in on a three race win streak featured on the dirt Simon Callaghan flooding in Pratt takes as usual seat aboard and then fighting mad, who's one two in a row around two turns undefeated going to turn she gets Lewis is in the mood as well of Baffert in the West. That's where I went I. Think she's a lead pipe cinch. I. Think She's going to the front never looking back tough to be able to deal I. understand him losing the Mount on maximum security that was never really his. Louis Sizes never ridden fighting mad studio has done nothing wrong since he's been aboard yet he still gets the boot for Louise size so Tough having to watch that one on Sunday. Yeah. Nothing you can really do about it though that's that's the name of the game. It looks like we're both on. Looks like we're both on the the BAFFERT philly number one fighting mad grade in Yada goes as race number four at I don't want to dismiss affiliate harvest moon does not who's done nothing wrong. But let you jumping up big time up in class and he I think maybe could exact one three and feel about hard not to love I. Don't want any part of her go into terms they keep to turns I do not know why raise eight degree to senator. Sprint. Championship, six furlongs over new alassio between Omaha beach and and chance a lot This is a great to now to win and you're in for the sprint again, just to feel the five here your boy flagstaff GonNa try A. Reverse roles, C.. Rocket inclusion allusion Gregoire Been Crosby when A. Trivial the horses again, that's where I landed with the favourite collusion allusion. I went back flagstaff didn't like the trip that he got last time out between runners. Close even on the lead on. Sunday. So I put them on top and I think CC rockets the logical one to use them. Yeah, those were are logical. I agree flakes flagstaff might try and take him gate to wire. That's The Sunday action all twelve in the books time now for the naira bets best bet. This is the naira beds best that. Away. Well I'm going to go to the early race on Sunday number four number. The fourth race does Yada Fighting Mad. We don't know the morning line yet. I'm sure she'll be the favorite her last two races were monstrous going wire-to-wire. She looks like she's going to get the lead again she's down along the fence she should get out in front and take them on their merry way and I. Think she is going to be on a three race win streak as she heads towards the Breeders Cup distaff. Or? On back to Saturday. John Henry Turf Clash Look cold number three, five united over Salvator Mundi I. Think it'll be. In some ways to speed number the united just leads them along or Salvator Mundi gets in front of him and foul united just gobble them up on the stretch. I'm going to take a three five united over Salvator Mundi race nine on. Saturday. That's my naira best bad at the great race place. Big Big weekend of action. Kick it off tomorrow morning with Equine Forum and tomorrow night with us from six hundred, eight thirty. and. It's all right here on your home for all races. We just defensive force racing radio DOT. Carson is to nineteen x tool one as well. Great job as always bobby normally say see you Wednesday but we'll talk tomorrow. That sounds like a plan buddy looking forward to it. All right. Thanks for tuning in all day long four my man bobby new. The. Big. A Anthony Hope you have a lucky i. hope he went all your photo. Finishes will talk to You tomorrow with women you're in action. Have a good night. Speak Tomorrow Equine form tomorrow morning. Talk to you that. HR.

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The Wild, Wild West and Midseason Overreactions | The Mismatch

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The Wild, Wild West and Midseason Overreactions | The Mismatch

"Hey It's Kelly and welcome to the ringer podcast network. We've published some great episodes in the month of December including Rewatch ables. Quentin Tarantino on Dunker. Sean fantasy sat down with Greta. GERWIG talk about her new film. Little women on the big picture. An Adam Sandler and Kevin Garnett on the Bill Simmons podcast to talk about their use film. Uncut jets happy new year from the ringer. Welcome to the ringer. NBA Show. I'm Chris Vernon and join Amisi. Does every Tuesday from the ringer dot com. It's Kevin O'Connor AK Kevin Obama geico concert. Kevin Okasan GEICO candy. Land Kevin O.. Camera Kevin O.. Conflict Cavill Verda. What's going on buddy well today? You're we're about forty games through the season so we decided at the beginning of the season we did our overreactions. After the first week of the season we are going to do our midseason overreactions reactions today. But before let's go through some big things that happened last night and since we've last spoken one of which was with the box losing every time they lose it's a story. They've only lost six times the entire season. And it was at the hands of the San Antonio Spurs last night who have carved their way into the playoff race in the western conference by virtue of so many teams doing so poorly over the last couple of weeks but that was a really good win for the Spurs last night as the mentor defeats the pupil. We saw Saturday night San Antonio lost to Milwaukee one twenty seven to one one eighteen and then obviously last night beating them one twenty six to one zero four eight and both of those games San Antonio essentially did what we're going to see see teams try to do in the postseason against the bucks when their game planning for Yonathan Kubo and that sang off him protecting the paint trying to force anybody. Anybody else on that team to beat them happen on Saturday. It didn't on Monday but it was just interesting to see the bucks get tested in a way that we're going to see them get tested. Virtually every single night in the postseason. So I think for Milwaukee this is probably a good home experience for them to really get going knowing. What's going to feel like a playoff type of game plan and not going to go against with the Spurs and it's one of those that until they get it done in the postseason people blur just gonNA I don't WanNa say roll their eyes at the regular season but they're going to say you know prove it when it comes when it when it comes crunch time right or else you are Atlanta you know with Boone Holzer That won a million games during the regular season and then came up short in the postseason. But I mean you've gotta be if you're Milwaukee anything less than a conference finals that goes very deep is is a disappointment and possibly given the timeline you have on your honest you know I mean they got to win big and they gotta win big this year. Sure for for blocking like it goes without saying we've been through this and we'll talk about it a bunch leading the APP to July when he can sign that supermax extension for San Antonio though it is interesting to see them changing some of the things that they reverted back to who last season when they first got Aldridge Gregg Popovich had shooting threes and then they pulled the plug on that because Aldridge delay shooting threes. But this year. He's shot seventy twenty four three pointers already. He only had forty two last year. Shooting forty six percent from three we have dareus and starting to shoot more threes. The John Murray starting to shoot more threes. It's kind of interesting to see San Antonio on the fly starting to modernize their offense. After early in the year and last year it works it works for them last season Fan but early in the year with the sputters that they were having their like. You know what screw it we gotta have these guys shoot threes and it's starting to work for them a little bit. There are only five and five in the last ten but as you said Kristie are have slid into that eight seed well and many times when you are attempting to get people to change. What has to happen they have to fail? They fail in order for you to get them to change. I mean this is what you're going through. This is exactly what we talked about when we talked about Nickel Yokich and maybe you should get a better shape or Ben Ben Simmons and maybe he should do this and that and the quotes are basically. I gotta Max deal playing the way I play. I'm doing okay here right but it was pretty pretty obvious with this bird like you're not doing okay. You're not doing okay and trippy told. All George is going to fall into the category of a lot of guys and especially a lot of big guys over the last several years that if he is going to extend his career he's going to have to become a three point shooter. We saw this most explicitly with Marcus all happened over the last couple of years and he was just on a title team. Doing it offers has always been a good shooter. The idea that he couldn't stretch it back back. Six more feet has always been a bit puzzling and I know he loves posting up and doing that. Turn around elbow extended jumper but he you could really extend his career for a long time as being a guy that comes down the court instructed the floor especially just from the top of the shore. Exactly and that's that's that's kind of what we're seeing right now from Aldridge. Is that evolution. You do hope that overtime whether it's with San Antonio or whether it's another team no matter what happens with his his own decisions and move forward after Free Agency next summer and twenty twenty one. Byu Hope for him he does except shooting three pointers. That will extend his career because for years. Dude he's he's he's been one of the top mid range shooters in the NBA and realistically. If he wanted to an e committed the time to extending that range he he can do it. Just like we've seen other guys like Marcus will do it. Al Horford do it. Aldridge can do that too. And hopefully for his own career he could be that dynamic big man moving forward or who can space the floor for his teammates and enhance them but also still postponing needs to view of the things. From last night that mattered rough weekend extended for or New Orleans with the officiated because on Sunday they were so upset about the push off from Kyle Rudolph and the non called off at the pass interference and then turn around and their basketball team. Game on the Line Brandon. Ingram goes to the basket Rudy Gobert. I mean clearly fouls the guy and in no call and that's a loss and that is look. We're to the point of the season where this loss is one that could keep the Pelicans out of the playoffs and so it matters a great great deal as unfortunately many times it is. The referee pool explanation was totally on unsatisfactory. Two things number one. They got screwed and they should have gotten a call in and should have been playing in overtime. That doesn't guarantee you winning number two to me taking taking the ball to the basket on Rudy Gobert with the game on the line it usually ends with you getting blocked or a foul not getting called so I don't I don't know it's hard for me to feel. Oh super terrible. Because that's what you did and being that he has gotten the credentials as such a great defensive player. They usually don't call the foul on him even if it does value. Oh you and he's had now more than a few game. Saving blocks were teams. Have Gone at him with the game on the line. It's interesting because at at the start of that possession you can see Lonzo ball signalling to call a time out and maybe Alvin gentry. We couldn't see him. He was out of the frame. But maybe Alvin gentry was also calling for a timeout right now because it is a bit surprising that Ingram did go coast to coast there but then again I mean I understand. Utah's defense wasn't set. New Orleans likes to push the ball. Well maybe there's an indication from gentry prior to that push if you have an opportunity and he did and he was filed just wasn't called for New Orleans though even even despite the loss even despite the bad call. If you're a Pelicans fan you still have to come away from this game. It'd be like you know what Brandon Ingram had another great performance against against a great defense Lonzo ball once again has been awesome way. Yeah we need to take a twenty second time out on this kept because you and I talked about it you you know several weeks ago like what is what is his desk and this is another lesson in your let this thing play out when they're young players because is these last four games he's looked like UCLA lonzo again it's four games but better than UCLA Lonzo. He's gassed the rim more frequently. Looks better off the bounce towards right for that matter really nice. Twenty four points. A game eight assists six and a half rebounds one and a half steals fifty four percent from the field forty six percent from three again. Four Games is not a huge sample but it is a four-game sample of him scoring twenty plus shooting shooting high percentages and looking like a much different player than he had up until this point well. We talked about that other week when if I forget our exact back and forth but I think I remember saying something like with law on this. Not sure what he's ever going to be as a scorer and with him because the fact is that the ATM finishing had not developed in the way that you would hope for for the shot was still inconsistent especially off the dribble. His three pointer off the catch is much better in. That's incredibly encouraging for him. When you think think about playing alongside Brandon Ingram playing alongside Zayn Williamson and other guys who are going to have the ball? That's critical however for Lonzo to reach number two pick in the draft potential attention that you expect from him the development off the dribble had a happen and we have seen the flashes of that as of late. And that's where you look at him right now just turned twenty two years his old a little over two months ago. It's there the ability is there. It's just about putting it all together over time and I hope for Lonzo. If three four for years from now we look at him and he somebody who can get to the rim more consistently and gets the line to overcome the fact that sometimes he's not going to be able to pull up from outside died then we have a real player who already is a stellar defensive player at his position when he's locked in engaged but then he's also a dynamic passer but if he can get to the rim that changes everything with what we think about what Lonzo has been thus far in his career well and say he pans out like many people thought he would when he when he came into the League. He's talking about him Ingram's Ion Holy Mackerel and look. I like some of the young guys Jackson. Hayes isn't ready not yet but you could see him becoming a rotation player for sure in the NBA. Maybe a very good one and and I loved Nicole Alexander Walker. Who hasn't shown yet but I I still believe in a great deal? I mean it's starting to look like that. Pelicans team that we thought you were going to get when they came into the season and and unbelievably Kev. Who would have ever imagined? Sometimes it's just the guy you can't lose because of who is playing instead of him and the transformation this team is made once it's gotten derrick favors back into the mix is unbelievable derrick favors. Who would I fought in? That's what we hit on last week with favors just the stability. He provides as a screener on the offensive end of the floors and as an interior finisher cleaning things up but also as just the defensive player who is so good positionally and Utah Jazz. Fans have seen it in the past right now. Pelican's fans are just so happy for Utah. Utah they were on the winning side of that last night by the way one other thing on Lonzo though with his shot even though three point numbers are up he shooting thirty eight percent from three three on catch and shoot opportunities. He's still shooting only fifty one percent from the free throw line and historically free throw percentages a greater indicator of future three point shooting success so it is interesting and noteworthy at the free throw percentage is still bad and for Lonzo. That's just something to keep in mind. It's only been thirty. Seven free throw attempts a very small sample but in his career still only forty six percent from the free throw line over one hundred fifty six attempts total in his career. That's just something and keep in mind with moving forward. This could just be a hot streak even those mechanics look better even though everything looks better the free throw percentage is still bad and you know what you it makes me think of is. I actually had this conversation with somebody the other day. My son played in a youth tournament. A couple of weekends ago and I mean this young kids young kids I swear to God every kid there air on those teams shot a better percent from three than they did from the free throw line. They couldn't free throws to say their lives what they can shoot threes and I wonder if Lonzo is like like the beginning ginning of this generation that has actually practiced seven hundred thousand three day but never stands at the free throw line. You know what I mean. It is crazy crazy because I saw that in tournament these kids couldn't hit free throws to save their life but they could bank threes from everywhere. It was crazy. It's pretty weird. I mean practice. I'm telling what they practice Steph. Curry has changed everything. Bruce Bowen is the guy who comes to mind when I think of poor free throw suitors. Who are good three point shooter? Shot under sixty percent from the line in his career but he was a forty percent three point shooter just weird because he stood in that corner took doc five hundred thousand a day you know and just made sure I can hit that shot and I'm telling you with kids now coming up you don't ever see them. Standing at the free throw line practicing free throws every one of them is behind the three point. Line practicing those. It's wild and it's almost I when you say that. That's exactly what came to mind. That maybe he is just like he's what we are going to see many times in the future guys that shoot better for three they do for the free throw line. Our producer show is likely just message me with fun facts. Isaac a friend who probably still hates Lonzo Ball. Send us to me. Marquel Foltz has had a higher hire. free-throw percentage every single season. Then Lonzo ball interesting. We talk about faults would be Ip's but these been better than lay bolts also. Oh career high. Last night it twenty s he had twenty night Markelle. fultz been imagine this last night. Lonzo Ball Twenty one point eight rebounds seven assist I four for six from three Markelle Foltz. Twenty five point five rebounds four assists two steals eleven for twenty took twenty shots from the field and in two for five from three figure that out. I mean good grief you've had Lonzo who got benched in early early December has come back as a starter and they're winning regularly and he's playing great. Then you have now Marquel Foltz. Who like last last night if you just watch? That game looked exactly like the type of prospect. Many people thought he could be when he was coming out in the draft. And I know you were a big fan of him when he was coming on the draft. Course markle's coming onto the tracks who hasn't sat. There were some questions but it was basically surrounding how horrible his team was. Sure but with false you look at him as a player as somebody who would be a two way. Four says a versatile defender would size six foot four along Armstrong body. And then our offense guy who was a pick and roll maestro and we've seen the playmaking potential in Orlando. We aren't in Philadelphia for that matter. Too to put the scoring is still something needs to get better last night. It was really just a hot shooting night for him. But hopefully this is Mecca nob- overtime. Yeah another thing that AH ONE THING ON UTAH. First of all I any jazz fans are pissed them. We're not talking about them. We talked about them a bunch last week. How much better they've been but boy involved Donovan? Thirty five points zero assists zero rebounds a weird stat line. Hey No no no no. You're selling it short. Because he had zero all across nothing else there were two others. He didn't steal. They did not blocked field zero block. So I mean you're talking about ah the major counting stats. He thirty five point two zero. I actually saw I think gone maybe it was. Mba or something. It was Alan Houston. Yes Alan Houston in two thousand the summer twelve. It's just hard to do. It's hard to do to nominate in the MIC. Theoretically so you have to place a obviously. It's hard to. Nobody's done it in twenty years but you have to play the amount of minutes that it would take to score thirty five points something. Nothing else is going to happen. You're going to be involved. It's like ball's going to bounce to you or you're going to pass it to somebody that scores or something else. You couldn't try how to do that for what it's worth in that game. Alan Houston also had zero steals and zero blocks very odd very odd. That is a hard thing to do. Another stat line worth mentioning. Last night is the Luca dominance continues. This time it was a thirty eight eleven and ten and he's getting a little trash talkie I like this. Do you see him three quarters. He had thirty four and he's who was it. I think it was shack Harrison. A ticket uh-huh and Luke Luke Right Adamant said thirty four thirty four thirty four three quarters. What are you talking about on the other side of that free mentioned because we might not get to it? marketings been way better recently. You know he's good last night and he's been you know we killed him earlier like what the hell happened to this guy. He's been a lot better over the course of the last couple of weeks so anyways back Deluca I with marketing with mark. It's great to Z.. Because this guy is an offense of talent and for Chicago early in the year. I had heard some rumblings that maybe there's teams trying to get him from Chicago. I think if you're the bulls you need to hold onto him and try to build a him because of the offense of talent that he has and so for him to be performing the way he has as of late. I think that confirms probably their initial belief that he's a guy they should keep and other teams should keep going for him. I just don't think Chicago should trade him in for Luca. Is this just just a normal thing every night. Now he's just going to be putting up thirty five. You know ten eight. This is a normal thing now. Isn't it yes. Of course there's enormous. Sixth it's normal like he's been doing it. Did the very beginning. You figure you get had halfway through the season people are going to start saying all right. This guy ain't killing US tonight right everybody else on the on the Mavericks can kill us. But this guy ain't gonNA kill us and and he goes out and kills them. It's January seventh. By the way I remember I think it was after eight games. Eight Games into the season. I tweeted out that Luka was a top ten player and people tweeted. Go back like. Show me your twenty-five lists like show me your list. This doesn't make sense you're overreacting Blah Blah and now it's like top turn was called take right guy is clearly a top five six guy already twenty years old. It blows of my mind that we're seeing him and yes. It was nice to see the trash talk last night yet. Another sideline and one other out compromise Yokich with the forty seven. When you any other Tabio now we get so used to these monster scoring nights and guys having forty-sevens and fifties on kind of a regular that it's not as big deal as it used to be because of the scoring in the League but forty seven a massive number for a center and so he gets the forty-seven against Atlanta Lina? And then we mentioned Markelle Faltas great night last night the defeat did they handed out to the net. Who are just spiraling Kef? I've spiraling yes. I mean. That's six in a row now and you look at what it's done to them in those standings and now you've got the Kyri stuff you wanted some clarity on this a couple of weeks ago. Now it's like he took a cortisone shot and maybe he's going to have surgery and what a debacle. Yeah Yeah with Kyrie. He's a guy who always had injuries. This is a weird one and a worry someone but he seems to be a guy that we've talked so much about him over the years as a guy who has obviously a champion who has performed at the highest level against the best defense is on the big stage and he at his peak is an unbelievable player are also suffered injuries over the course of his career that has limited his total peak. And Right. Now it's kind of scary. It is scary to see him. Play only eleven games from the nets and what should be yes. It's it's a gap year before Katie gets back but you still would have liked to have seen positive developments around Kyri before the arrival of Katie. A guy who can fit into the system but not getting that. This team is spiralling as you said and for Kyri I thought this was an opportunity. Me For him to maybe develop as a leader off. The court with Boston. Didn't go well with Brooklyn. He hasn't even had the opportunity. And that sucks for the nets at sucks because is now next season if he does continue to miss time if he theoretically misses the rest of the year. You have to install two two guys into the system. 'CAUSE Kyrie hasn't had the opportunity to issue to get settled in and that makes things that much more difficult and what will be year one with Katie Yen. It's sneaky 'cause I don't know if people necessarily the the thing that befell say like somebody. Anthony Davis right when people say oh. Anthony Davis he's injured again. Or whatever right people. Don't say that about Kyrie but I'll be damned CAV you know. He missed his college year at Duke. And then you get these game. Totals fifty one fifty nine. Seventy one seventy five so that was thirteen and fourteen and fourteen fifteen by a lot of games. The next year fifty three the next year seventy two so. That was a good year and then the two Boston Austin year sixty and then sixty seven and then this year eleven. I mean he's only played seventy games. What three times while? And that doesn't even factor actor in though getting hurt in the playoffs either. Oh the Cleveland went to the finals when love Anirban route and then with Boston during one of their playoff Ron's when Kyri was out and they still took Cleveland Seven Games. I mean this will be at least his fourth season where he's played less than sixty games and and it'll be fifth where he's played sixty or fewer half his career for God's Sakes Yeah we've played less than sixty games and if you you know what people don't think about that when they do I don't I don't think that he carries the injury thing like some of the other guys that we've seen in the past which is interesting to think. Come on moving forward because you have Kevin durant coming back from a ruptured Achilles injury. That across sports says ruin careers or shorten the prime crime or the blink of player's career. And then you have Kyrie who also has an injury issues for for Brooklyn you sign those guys any chance you can get you signed in Katy Perry any opportunity you get. However it's it's scary still because now the stakes are real for Sean marks in the Front Office for Kenny Atkinson and the coaching coaching staff? You aren't just a fun. Young team with a great locker room. That's competing and exceeding expectations and you know megan noise in the playoffs. Offs now your team with championship expectations. But you're also a team that has to potentially injury prone players Kevin durant coming back from that and then Kyri who's always suffered injuries. It's scary for this team with taking a risk that any any franchises take but now you have these two guys who you don't know what their health is GonNa look go forward and also that we've touched on and everybody knows about BELLSA. The locker room aspect to with both those guys who are Moody Tell You. Hey this is this is. This is the great benefit and I know. They made their decision together and they. They made their decision in unison. To go to Brooklyn I could you imagine it. This crab was going on. They had gone to the Knicks. Oh my God I mean it is I mean this is the benefit of them choosing news and Brooklyn Right. It is so far down. I mean what happens with the nets is just so insignificant compared to what happens with the Knicks but God bless imagine if they would have chosen the Knicks. And this is what's going on with Gary. I mean my God it would have been unbelievable and people often you know. Make Fun of the nets or the clippers for being you know. The little brother are to the Lakers in the in the knicks however thought have thing when it comes to media coverage no kidding in that can be an important part of keeping the locker room tight like ignoring the noise because there's not as much noise to ignore so it's a good thing for Brooklyn and it can be a good thing for the clippers of something like this. Were to ever come up whether trying to compete for championships. In a way you could say like collides numbers being down missing games management and. It'd be much bigger story if he were on the Lakers and he is in the clippers. That's good thing that it's not for that franchise just like this from the nets. Speaking of the Clippers mean you saw it on Saturday they ah. They were getting booed on their home. Court mantras Herrell after the game system very disturbing things about their locker room. And what's going on and it's like it just goes away it. It just goes away right if that happened to the Lakers. Oh my God who'd be unbelievable. Hey Ba is it by the way what were you doing on Saturday. Hope you went did not go no What a shame love? It was great to watch. It really was thirty. Start Time I skurdal hundred forty. Boyd's I I still can't believe that happened on a day game in la. I mean I kind of believe it happened on on a day game in. La like twelve thirty. Oh No young teams look let this be a lesson everybody out there. It's not always young team sometimes. It happens a veteran teams. If you you play a day game in Miami Atlanta New York or La Chalk it up you've lost and Toronto. Yes Oh God yes feel like out. Feel like you'll be the opposite going out cities. Well that's the thing but you guys can go out. And then their bodies can bounce back. The Grizzlies are of the benefit that they're guys. They're not even old enough to get into places cut. Their best players are not old enough to get into places. czyz veteran guys are just Kinda. Stay in the hotel and play video game guys. But I still can't believe that. They put a hundred and forty on the clippers. All Right Kev. So at at the beginning of the season we gave over reactions and now we are about midway through the season and we've got more overreactions. I know one of yours deals with a subject that we covered a little bit earlier on the show. So I'm GonNa let you start with that and then playoff it and then I'm going to hope that we don't overlap on on any of these but we each have three midseason overreactions. Give me your first one. Luca Danni Church has a chance to be on the. NBA's Mount Rushmore by the time. His career is over Mount Rushmore. You can argue the four guys on there. I would say in no order. Lebron Michael Jordan Kareem and Bill Russell. Those four are probably the greatest players of all time. In my opinion I think by the time Lucas careers over. There's a chance we had Jerry West. I allude to this the other day saying that Luca will be better than Dirk Nowitzki. I mean like Jerry West said that so so I'm not sure. This is really an overreaction but I think it is considering the fact you're talking about a twenty year old player but the fact is is what he's doing now. Oh and you think about what he can still be as he continues to improve over time continuing to improve his body getting more are in Morin enhanced as a creator against the League defenders. The way he's going to develop like we've seen other great players get better over time. As as a worker in a guy who massed his already mastered so many areas of his craft age twenty. What will he be twenty six twenty seven twenty eight if he continues this over the course of his career undoubtedly he has a chance? We one of the greatest players ever but he could be one of those guys who's a top four top ten in all time guy. That is a very good overreaction. I'm very impressed. And unfortunately it has now made my first one on less Bobino Berea because what the hell fire alarm all right. It's just went off. What the hell? My God cursed episode. Is this real life. That's hilarious. What I'm off Tornado? And we we keep this podcast. This is funny. This is funny. What is happening here? I just want to say to the listeners. Christus went to change the batteries on his task cam recorder because they were running out of the safe and now there's a fire alarm and the reason I the reason I couldn't use my studio. I'm in a different place than I usually am to do. This show the reason. I could use my series because a wrestler was in there. What's codes? He was in the studio somebody who's recording with them so I couldn't use my studio all right. I think we're okay now. Now it's great. I'M GONNA keep this in this. That's hilarious. That was curry. My overreaction which was hurt because of your overreaction is that this guy in Atlanta Travis link that everybody was a fan of this guy is so lost and so what are you talking about you just told me traded a guy. That's going to be on the day. I I just thought all I said was I didn't say no said WHOA. This guy told me he traded a guy. That's going to be on the rushmore. All right this. He's got everything. Luca for trae young and then camera dish. The Evan Turner Deals at Disaster Amaury Spelman who like looked like nothing and gained like forty pounds last year and got all upset with himself now. Looks like a real player played for the warriors. You've got the whole deal that took place for four De'andre Hunter where they gave up Jackson Hayes and the Keel Alexander Walker Market Silva and then conditional nother first round pick and they got de'andre Hunter Solomon Hill who they flipped for Chandler. Parsons and a second rounder. And even losing Dwayne deadman hurt and trae young's already already like super pissed off and they have no like veterans of the voice and he's already like Egypt had a conference call with the owners. Whatever and said you know he made a bunch of mistakes in the off offseason and whatever and it's like holy macro I think the guy you know everybody hires people from successful places and he came from Golden State? Didn't everybody at very high praise for him. And he's known for his talent evaluation. Because of I guess pegging Draymond Green once upon a time. But look I mean in fairness I wrote an article saying the grizzlies should take during mongering with the twenty fifth pick so pegging dream on green is not exactly you know that doesn't to qualify me to be a GM for this is a mess. It's a mess and you just told me that. He just traded a guy. That's going to be on the Damn Mount Rushmore. And that's like I two drafts in a row did just look bad. I mean you you do this so that you get high draft picks and the you have all these assets and I know they have all this money to spend who the hell is going to want to go play there. And now they're talking about trading for Andre Drummond. Are you kidding me. Yeah it Andrea Drummond and trae young. Put them together and see if you can give a hundred and eighty points a game. That'd be your center Point Guard Combo. Just everything seems clueless. They're my only wish for TRAE. Young's career is that at some point week we collectively as media and fans can detach Atlanta's decision decision from trae young player because trae young trae young did not make that choice to be traded or drafted by anybody. He's just declared for the draft and that's it and from there like as out of his hands trae young himself as a really great young player and it sucks that he's attached to a guy like Luca who could go down as one of the all time greats rates and maybe trade code to you never know right you never know he could but Lucas guy he just has. IRS higher upside. He's a better player period. He says that's just the reality of it. No matter how great trae young somebody is and Andy Andrea Hunter Benner end up being awesome because look at all those assets they gave up to shore but to your point you're hating on is what I wished. The conversation will be like more moving forward about the front office about ownership in the decisions that they make. They're the ones who made that choice. And it was a calculated it'd risk and in some ways it's working because trae is so good alrighty let's not underrate who he is as a player as a magnificent passer. Just twenty one years in a guy who is scoring the hell out of a ball as well has improved drastically as an atom finisher. trae young's really good and I WANNA make sure that we're not diminishing what I'm an year one year two as a player what he could still someday be but for the front office. They've made some mistakes and for them. Moving forward I hope that the the reported interest trust and Andre Drummond is not ownership saying we need to do this now. We need to make a push because young said he needs to. Yes exactly. I think. Think if you're traveling and you're that office German is not the right move and it would be a short-sighted move to do that which is exactly what gets you in trouble later but it it could very well be ownership and I believe that could be ownership that is behind that push and that sucks for the Front Office this is what and look again. These are overreactions. It's but I feel. I listened to this guy do an interview. I believe it was Adrian. And he was he was great. I was thinking to myself like God. If I was a hawks fan. I'd feel great about this is is such a good speaker China. He's a great talker. But these moves over and over again just absolutely suck and I cannot take the talker and distance him from. I don't know I feel bamboozled by listening to him like man. This guy sounds like he's really got it together really really knows what he's doing. And then I look at this. What this franchise looks like right now in the moves that he's made and it's like this what he's doing this goofy so anyway? That's the first overreaction from me your second one my second one you'll like this one this will make you happy and it relates to some with something you just mentioned about a player who's pegged and prior drafts burn Clark. We'll be a dream onscreen level. Still Whoa how that one Chris draymond green come on now now. Do you think he could be the third best player on title team. Think about what he is right now. Brennan Clark Right now as a rookie as an elite score and and lobs and the pick and roll right. He is a guy who sets good strong screens as a rookie finishes with Finesse and touch around the rim and also with power. He's a developing developing into a very reliable three point. Shooter forty three percent on a low volume this year from three. He's elite and attacking closeouts already. He can shoot floaters and an elite great. He is a good at Rome finishers well. He is a nimble ball handler to as a rookie. He's a superb. Defender still need to get better over time. Of course like any rookie does has but think about what makes dream on great. He's a guy who has a floor razor with his defensive versatility. He backs up. Klay Thompson and Steph Curry. Sorry with his offense. He's a playmaker who can bring the ball up the floor and create for staff in clay. He's a guy who at least a moderate floorspace or at the center position. He raises what Steph and clay are as the star. Go to players with Brendan Clarke. If jaren Jackson and John Marantz keep getting better her Clark is exactly what she want next to those two guys I think Clark is that floor razor next to Jaren Jackson and John Because of his skills and what. He's really good at both ends of the floor while Look I love brandon but I mean this. This is an overreaction. Draymond green to me has been wildly underrated. This guy like people forget that the game seven. The Cleveland Won. The that guy is like a thirty point triple double tap when the whole season on the line and he played the best media he had nine one of the categories either assistant rebounds but I mean he was out of his mind great when it matter the highest leverage game you could feasibly be in. He was amazing. And I mean are you telling me though that five years from now burn Clark you know. He's twenty eight years old in. The Grizzlies are competing deep in the playoffs. You're telling me that you can't see a world in which Brennan Clark Has Game One game tour. He's like five points. Seven seven rebounds to assist Buddy makes a big impact but then game three happens to be a game where they're double John Marantz off the pick and roll their trapping him and then Clark is the guy who needs make a play. He's feasting is. I put an draymond is a like a fantastic ball handler. And a great great passer everything. They're different players like I'm not comparing Clark to green. I'm just saying that with the fit that he has with Jaren Jackson John Moran I think he he enhances those guys Lord. He's he compliments them so well Lord knows. I hope you're right. I love her in a cart. And if you're a listener the show this is your first time listening to the show. There's probably about four or five shows the season memorial going back to the draft. Where I've been like Brennan Clark is the guy and I feel like we are seeing him develop into that because of what look Jaren Jackson with the strides? He's been making. After a slow start. The season encouraging John Moran Blossoming Awesome until a young star already. Clark compliments those guys perfectly in the grizzlies have one of the best young chords in the League of right next to the New Orleans. Pelicans in my opinion all right right. My second overreaction and this I I don't feel great about this okay but I wrote it down because there was an overreaction okay the Bulls make the playoffs how how they have lost four games in a row so this is like Canada salute. Worst time to do it. So worst time for me to say this but you look at the teams that are in front of them. You Got Brooklyn spiraling out of control and you got Charlotte. Charlotte's awful. Okay I'd take Chicago's Roster Twenty Times over before I'd take Charlotte's let's so I think I believe in that roster more so okay you look behind them Detroit. Wizard Cleveland Knicks Hawks. So not only the you you should be able to get a good share of wins against those teams. Those things aren't in it. Those things aren't so you're only in it and if I think Charlotte is GonNa fall back then. Can you really only in it. You're only fighting with Brooklyn and then Orlando they're six. I sure that are making it. The bucks the Celtics heat the raptors the sixers the Pacers Acer's seven and eight. I think Orlando can make it but I think there's a world where Chicago makes it and Brooklyn does not therefore I say Chicago Chicago makes it after you went through that it feels less crazy than I initially thought. There's only a couple of teams that even hands at it. And if we had the play in tournament Orlando and Brooklyn would face Charlotte and Chicago. That'd be fun for Chicago's got a a lot of real players on their team. You Watch them when they put it together. They're better than some of these other teams. I just all the Hornets in person person and I turned to the guy next how the hell of they won thirteen games. How I can boggles my mind? I know Dionne Day grams had a a great season so far but I mean that both Levin Marketing now who we said has gotten a lot better recently when Carter Kobe White. You know you think the second economic theory could be better get quarterback Saturday and ski. Daddy's Young's a real guy like I dunno league at least real players on that team all right your third one so changing this on the fly because of what I just mentioned I just said Orlando Verses Chicago and Brooklyn Versus Charlotte. It'd be fun it would be fun for hardcore NBA fans. It'd be fun for fans who care to listen to a podcast about it. Thank you for listening to us and then you look in the West. Okay see right now. It'd be facing Portland San Antonio Facing Memphis in the playoff play in tournament hardcore fans. I think would enjoy that but what I don't think would enjoy that as a casual fan. I don't I think they would care. And I've thought a lot about the playoff plan tournament and I'm not sure it's enough like watching the NFL playoffs and just the thrill of the wild card round when you think about the week. Sixteen and Seventeen implications with teams fighting for a by I think about the the agony Guinea I felt on the Patriots lost to the dolphins losing the by and who knows what could have happened and then they lose in the wildcard or and I think all that and I'm like in the NBA. I kinda wish maybe that there's some sort of by for more teams from that playoff playing around because I got emailed Alden idea months ago when this first came up. What if you had the top four see? This is my own reaction in a one liner. The current seven to ten playoff playoff tournament proposes not enough. We need to go to one to four. Get a buy and then five six seven eight are. WE'RE ALL IN A one game playoff against nine ten eleven twelve and five to eight. Get to choose their opponent. Twelve no way. Ah Okay that is so unfair to the team that is five versus the team. That is twelve to help you have a rat team and B twelve look at the eastern Eastern conference right. Now the sixers of the five they could choose to pick Washington in the one game playoff to what I'm saying is it makes the regular season more interesting. You have the top four teams. They are automatically in the real playoffs. They don't have to play in a playoff tournament and makes fighting for top. Foresee that much more important. You got teams right now. It makes Philadelphia getting the four. See that much more. Important Makes Indiana getting that four seed that much more important it makes it a fight in the east right. It makes it a fight in the West. We're getting that top. Four seed is critical. Because you don't you don't play that one game playoff you don't play in. That wildcard around right but then you also have the potential and the inverse of that in the West where right now if the twelve seed Phoenix. Right let's say golden state itself curry comes back in late February early March one off calf. It gives those teams that shot to get into it keeps bore fans liens invested over the course of the season it increases the implications of the regular season. Ten is maybe it is but I don't know if it's enough five teams in your conference. That don't make you can be right because then I'm having twenty four teams May. May I mean by Roy hitting me holy. Look they set this alarm off because your idea stinks. Well it happens the whole Damn League in the place Kathy. They said they said enough with that. Take Ler alert. Yeah that was an unplanned overreaction. There was an overreaction to something I had just said during the podcast briefly here my real one which is kind of weak. I'm not sure it's an overreaction and all be worse than that one it's that city for years have been saying Russell Westbrook needs to allow Billy Donovan to install his system system and now the West has gone. We are finally seeing that system for Billy Donovan and he is a great coach. We're seeing the three guard lineups with Shigeo LaSalle Alexander Dennis Schroder. We're seeing three yard line. Chris Paul Chris. Paul is at point guard sacrificing a guy who for for years people. He dominates the ball and he runs the offense but now I got the phone ringing in the background and then for you. It's really do thank you actually. It's Russell Westbrook saying I knew you'd find a way to shit on me and this the point is that my overreaction is that I was right Billy Donovan is a great coach. It's really cool to see him doing that. Thanks for the whole time and that felt like a really weak overreaction sound like screw it. I'm all right. My last one first round picks are going to be a lower asset than they they have been in a long time. Yeah but beyond that the best player in the upcoming draft will not be drafted in the top five so in other words. Is this the worst draft since twenty thirteen. But that's a year we're Jaanus is the best player in the Yes. I think it's I. I think it like that because you look. I'm in the same town as wiseman great kid great player. It's too hard for your big man to be your best guy anymore. It's really hard art. We're about to see if Yokich indeed if those guys can do it but it I don't think that level of talent and even with that level of talent it's hard when on your best guys a big guy. It's he got him. I saw Anthony Edwards on Saturday. Kevin I if you wouldn't have told me that he's supposed to go in the top five. I wouldn't have seen it and I've seen in a bunch of these college guys over the last several years I saw Lonzo in person I saw Fox person I saw even like Malik monk in person I saw buddy healed in person seen a lot of draft picks over these last four or five years in prison and they you know you see him and they just look different than everybody else he did. Not and so. I'm going give it a chance. I got to see him in the tournament. And you know more high leverage stuff as the year goes on. But I didn't see it Lamelo ease over in Australia. Unease hurt right now. Call Anthony's been hurt. You know our day Hampton. I saw him in person earlier this year and it wasn't like Holy Shit. You GotTa take this guy so I'm just thinking that this is going to be one of those years that's one thing I think it's GonNa be one of those years where you don't have to be at the top of this draft to get the best guy because I think what the consensus best guys are. There are none of them. I feel crazy confident about. I think that is exactly the way I feel about a guy like Therese Albert and from Iowa state who's just a rock-solid player who is a high Q.. Player smart passer improved the F. as a score off the dribble in his sophomore season with Iowa state I look at someone like him and he has risen up rankings have looked at. It seems like scouts. I've talked to you are raising him up their boards to. But he's still somebody who's probably not gonNA go above some of these younger higher upside players even though he's only going to be twenty as a rookie. Eighty Halliburton somebody. That we're going to look back at years from now on the draft hasn't even happened. It'd be like Oh. How do you fall at eight? How did he fall nine? Sort of like cj mccollum who was a senior senior in the two thousand thirteen draft. Fill ten behind some younger freshmen and sophomores. who had theoretical higher upside but ended up? Not This is that type of draft like twenty thirteen where there's GonNa be some good players who were drafted. There's GonNa be some good role players and then there's GonNa be some surprise stars like any year in the draft but the top of this draft is not good and look at us agreeing at the end. We fought through major adversity today on this show. And I'm very proud of that. Isaac you fought through the university with us. We had to come back to the show and look what we did. We made it just an absolute debacle for you. The smooth shows is it comes back and it's just an absolute curse. Well I mean would would be a hell of a coincidence. I thank everybody for listening to another episode of the mismatch dispatch degrade. You're here and go give us a rating review on I two five stars five stars. It really helps Kevin. I will talk to you on Friday. Thanks guys

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Best Of (NBA Power Rankings, LaVar Ball, NFL rookie rankings, Tyreek + Chiefs, Zion + Lonzo)

"Welcome to the undisputed podcast. I'm your host Jenny Taft. This podcast is a condensed version of today's episode of undisputed handpicked with the best segments and discussions skip Shannon. Let's go. ESPN RELEASED THEIR NBA power rankings heading eating into the upcoming season. I'm excited guys quite letter. Paul George and the new clippers claimed the top spot followed by the bucks and seventy sixers Lebron broaden. The Lakers came in at number four with the addition of Anthony Davis and the rockets rounded out the top five so Shannon. You got a problem with these his rank. Do I got a problem with it. 'cause I'm tired of people underestimate endowed Lebron. No reason sixteen years been happening for like four months. It's been inhabited for like sixteen years led by the biggest Lebron James Hater in all the world you biggest true tells the truth teller. I'm tired of this. advocate looks the books get honest. They're the only team to win. Sixty Games Janas was the MVP okay Kyle korver GonNa start shooting the shots now so until then talk to me then okay the Sixers Ben Simmons. He's been working on his outside shot. I follow him on watching him. See him making some threes okay. We'll see if he'd do again. I agree Joel embiid. The best big man true a five could put it on the floor plate with back to the basket shoot the three block. The shot blocked shot now hold on missed fifteen games every year something always wrong with his knee always wrong with his feet and only babies take more stomach issue then Joel embiid true okay. Let's come to the team. That's ranked number. One the clippers you know power George did have both shoulders and he will not be there on opening night until November if they're targeting November okay. It's not like Paul. George is like Paul. George all gets hurt too. They're making a theme by iron man he. AC Green like he got a thousand game and his belt belt without missing. Did they see last year. Well you know last year was game management. Okay what about a year before okay. I get that he was injured. I believe he was injured. He had quadriceps intercept tend to notice okay but what about those years before that when he's missing five games eight James Fourteen gains then we can seem like he doesn't miss any games really well. We don't know how. Ad Lebron go play together. Well how long Paul George and cooperating together their soulmates from some may get out of here leaving soul mate. Oh that's my soul mate we would mitt to be. I can't be with that. We were meant to be no you weren't you don't believe Ow uh-huh. Maybe you don't ever sold me. I do gotta soul you eighty need. You ought to be ashamed of yourself. Look oh I know what Lebron Lebron has been in the lab. He put the time in May Dis put the timing obviously all these teams with the exception of the sixers and the the books they pretty much bring everybody intact six bring everybody intact but the guy that made the shots down the stretch they needed a big bucket is now for the sixers. It's not in Miami Jimmy Buckets. That's who they put the ball in his hands late in the ball game. You want Joylin be it wasn't Ben Simmons. New wasn't seven Tobias Harris Jimmy Bucket well. He's in Miami now and we see we see the big game agree in the big. We have it so we have seen it. They've we've what we're seeing. Is that when you pull up a moat with alligators this makes my bad. Will you put up a wall of Cuban when you you don't let him get to the basket skill and make him shoot the ball from outside. We see what looks like we did at the end of the day. You know what I'm GonNa. Have this kind of energy energy the energy the passion that I have right now in the mid June. I'm ahead that kind of energy I'm GONNA have I'm clippers going to have that inter second week. Not No minimum not won't won't have told me twenty by the way Lebron has not spent the off season in the lab ABC. He's spin it on a sound stage it Allaire yeah or maybe in the Edit Bay editing the I know a guy they shot a movie had had had a setup head of court setup on the lot and they won the championship. Do you have the he shot the moving and he was in the middle of his prime and Lebron is in year Seventeen Ryan with the equivalent of one hundred thousand miles on his body. That's what he is. were good car. You are good car. You're one of the you might be the greatest car ever on your ability but it still human car right yeah no known and we saw human last year we saw mortality last year so we saw a pulled groin you'll ever sold so you automatically assuming and everybody's automatically assuming just like you with when he got hurt your sixteen. He's going to be a year older so he automatically. He's GonNa get hurt in your seventeen ninety Tom. Tom Brady Catholic about Oh. Tom Brady calf issue mortal just mortal. I don't want to hear that. I don't WanNa hear does about Tom Brady. No no no no. Don't tell me I don't care why you play bad okay to make excuses my turn. I do agree with your premise that Milwaukee Walk Philly at two three. I'm just not I'm not buying in. I love Philly last year but then when you take Jimmy buckets away. Jj Radical made a lot of big threes in clutch ones you take them both away and now you're the third best team and you're better than A. D. Lebron. You're just you're not sorry. This is the first year I've ever said this. There should be to power rankings each week one for the Eastern Conference and one for the Western Conference because I'm pretty sure the the best team is gonNA come out of the West this year unless you make the case to me that the western conference playoffs have such bloodbath quote unquote beat the hell out of each other and and whoever the last man standing last men standing have to go face whoever cakewalks through the eastern playoff right that that maybe these would have an advantage just based on the East Milwaukee and Philly I got it put K. D. We have a different argument okay so I got you on that. I I'm going to defend the clippers just because defensively if Paul George does get healthy if you put those two wings out on the front line at half court and you put pg over over here and you put number two over here and you've put that little bulldog Patrick Beverley in it'll that's some hellacious defense and again big zoo that you loved his idea how did he he's you rim. Protector and Landry Shamet can shoot it in all of a sudden you got mantras and Sweet Lou coming off the bench. It's just a really good basketball team with a really good coach but then Paul George and cooperators position Yup so who's GonNa play the four so that means one of them got the Gar A. D. now which one going Gar eighty pretty good. That's why we're gonNA play so why. Ud for two hundred clear hearing number two would have to bear that burden. I BET THE AD put up thirty five and fifteen T- Nonni Paul George already know what Lebron give him he already knows this east west North South the with it does not matter once upon a time there will you remember. Do you remember what happened in okay. Did you have become on that when he Lebron with the Cleveland gave it to him. In Indiana he went to Miami gave it to him. IN INDIANA HE GOES BACK TO CLEVELAND GIVES IT to him. It doesn't matter what Paul Georgia okay I still say defensive mindset that team already had a culture based on defense in when you you ramp up that Defense Vince with two studs on defense and Lebron clearly over the last two seasons has demonstrated no defensive mentality where he's somewhat of a liability. The tone sat on defense the way he did the things that's going to be different. This year is that he's not going to have to show the offensive load that he's had at the Kerry for the last sixteen years now. He has a guide that he knows wakes up every mony. He's twenty five in twelve walking. We we know that we knew it in New Orleans. We don't know what we know IT BIG DAY O. EILLY would Lebron's great on the Hollywood stage. I don't know about about Anthony. I'm glad you said that because now just as you said that now is about to be twenty five twenty seven and a half and thirteen God. You're bumping him. 'cause you're bumping your gun. Utah talking about here may participate Lebron bump and he is about. We're GONNA PLAY TO A D. God knows we played last week Lebron media manipulation because is he's basically saying. Don't expect me to do very much. Put all the pressure on you in that poor. Anthony Davis has no idea what he just got into because because if it does teeter a little bit Lebron pool is why they got bullet Westbrook and hard nosed wait wait a second Lebron's going to pull his media cronies aside and say I. I thought it was better than I thought we could play you go. You always try to do that. You always try to see the discontent. I'm ahead of the curve went ahead of the curve serve you so here's the curve that Lebron is facing. I'M GONNA make a case to you. This season is Lebron's highest degree of difficulty in his entire career. You know why why no longer cake walking through the east and we just talked about what's left of the in the East and nothing if Lebron were in the East Games over still even at in seventeenth season but look speaking of that those two guys over on the right side look at what's right behind Lebron on the power rankings. This is what you're going to have to contend with this year. Five rockets six nuggets seven jazz eight warriors. Don't write them all don't dismiss them. Ten Blazers Thirteen Spurs Dijon Marie back do not write them off. They will be a factor. My point is Lebron Eddy. You're going to have to deal with this on almost nightly basis because you have to play the West more than you play. These big got my Rif. They gotta deal with us but that six the next nine our western conference dare I say powers because they're all loaded. They're all really good they do but you have to deal with them. We don't mattis as I I as a as level playing field in the West as you will ever see because they all have chances to make big runs and then you get all the way to fifteen mavericks in Sixteen Pelicans. Do you think the Pelicans are going to be a pushover Yup. Do you think they're gonNA be this year. I don't if we're well look at the Lakers Lebron and that's my to Mount Everest. Everything is a valley about Kilimanjaro bike peaks and Indeed Valley compared speaking of pikes peak look at Dallas with Dante. What do you think people listen? That's that's serious these business. They're ranked fifteenth this yeah we address Yup Arab. Everybody wants to scale Everest. we are Everest is old now ever since really old. Everybody wants scale. It just sits there see every doesn't have to move the Ron has to move on. Do you know how many bodies we've claimed. That's what we don't do this year in the West. Uh have some movie just sits. There and people fall off that what's going to happen. You gotta come to staples you. GotTa come see and you got to go to Dallas to Orleans and really take the show on the road boy this. This is tough highest degree of difficulty in his careers right here right now. The West is loaded. They you know the thing is when you simone biles. There is no difficulty when you the greatest of all time is no difficulty you just do what you do. You do what you do and knowing that nobody else can do what you do. Nobody in the history of gymnastics can do what you do. Here's guards Simone biles but Moscow do what she she does. No one can do it better. My point is will you Lebron James and you just do what you do Jay. Nobody play and do what you do. You make movies right all we've made for you guys today mile. She's going to go against you know like the mental side or something something there if I bring if I bring my b-game nobody's able of getting complex you might be dominant take is this is Jenny Taft after I have a quick message for you about Neum. 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Your mind change for good with new Lavar ball is being accused of embezzling over two and a half million dollars by his former business partner Alan Foster according to a report foster calls lavar quote would a liar who fraudulently utilized big baller brand and ball sports group to fund his personal lifestyle Lavar Ball family parted ways with foster after suing him for for fraud when money allegedly went missing earlier this year so Shannon. What do you make of all this concerning but I really hope it's not true because it'd be a horrible look for the family? there are plenty of people myself included that doesn't have like some of the things lombards yeah some of the things that he's done but there are plenty of people out there that doesn't like or haven't like some of the things I've said or done and by the way you have expressed that to Lavar him exact you absolutely right skip but this would be disappointing and considering that Lonzo is suing Allen Foster. This sounds like it might be retaliation. Maybe because it was reported that you know Lonzo sadness lawsuit that he was GonNa do I guess when he sued foster foster would disseminate damaging information about it but given Alan Foster's background and what he was incarcerated for it he kind of loses some of the benefit of the doubt he does given his history that he defrauded seventy people vote over four million dollars spent time in jail. sentenced to seven years served five got in trouble on while Pirot went back for another four months gives me it just seems it's just hard by the way he pled guilty to one count of mail fraud and two counts of money laundering so he pled guilty not too though right go ahead so it kind of makes it hard to believe to take him at his word that he but I'm willing to let hey I'm GonNa let it Lee out yeah but I just really hope is not true on the bars fault and Lavar says what I didn't know he had this kind of background but I thought they were friends. You know he got a new IMF from the neighborhood. Normally where I grew up at we friends. I'll see for a long time hill one or two things happen. You went to prison. You went to the military. Those did really two options option being from that neighborhood I get it you know it's not like Compton is a small area but if you know somebody you know skip I just I just really hope that that this is not true for the bar in the bars instance because it would it'd be terrible that he took money from his sons but I was never one of those that believe that Lonzo was was thriving because the Lebar Lonzo was driving because Lonzo is very very talented. Lamelo is going to thrive because lamelo talented yeah because La Barca mark do what he said he was doing he would have Liangelo in the NBA Lonzo's in the NBA of Lonzo talented Lamelo is going to be in the NBA. 'CAUSE LAMELO is talented talented. Liangelo is not in the NBA because the NBA dove do not believe he's talented enough is simple as that yeah but for me from the bottom of my heart in all honesty I've had my disagreements with Lebar but I really really hope that this isn't true not one house. Allen Foster is a legend I. I hope it's true I agree before I answer genie's question. I'm going to do a quick step back here. It's always something the thing with ball in the family and this is not to minimize the seriousness of these accusations and investigations but there's this little part of me made that sometimes wonders if this is all scripted for the sake of the reality TV show that it's all just Kardashian esque. You know like like it's all made up. It can't can't really keep happening this way and it's like the end of this in the world. I'm viewing right now would be that it would play out on judge Judy show it's like she would she would be final one too. Yeah I watch it yeah. I talk too much of Judge Judy small plane so thousands wouldn't she set the all time raise yeah. She tried this case Joe do show me the paper so given all that I have no idea who's lying and telling the truth because somebody's lying somebody's telling the brick and it was somewhat amusing that Allen Foster is actually using accusing Lavar of stealing. You could consider his own money right because he he did have the purse strings. I know it's he's sharing them with Lonzo right but accused of stealing Lonzo's money well. I guess that's how you could say but is it is all Lonzo's many or some of it Lavar money that would that would really out of one that had the money I kinda like didn't you started and we use your name you Lavar and Lonzo we use the ball neighbor kind kind of mom when he got the ball so to speak rolling. I agree thank you for bringing up Lonzo because again say this for the hundred time on the show without Lonzo ball we would have never heard of Lavar Ball Lonzo's ability GR- put Lavar on the map correct and he became a household name from here to China to Lithuania yes because of Lonzo and then Lavar outsized personality -ality is charisma and he is he's wildly entertaining and always enjoy having on the show even though it just hurts my soul to watch what he's done to Lonzo by by the painting bigger and bigger target on his back which brings me to my conclusion all this the one person in all this I feel sorry for or is Lonzo ball because think about what he's going through he he thinks in the back of his mind I've finally escaped. I'm getting a fresh start way down in New Orleans. They're having their first few practices. We're GONNA talk about video telephones released and he's free so to speak of his father. Even though the love will never die but but he's he's got a fresh start we both think he's starting to show signs of becoming his own man and then all of suddenly years I soon last night wait a minute. Is it possible my dad's stole my money right possible. He siphoned some offer rezone. Use The lawsuit. The funny part of it was that he was using it to acquire assets in Ethiopia says ah what's his name Allan Allan boss. That's what he alleges that he was using some of the funds to acquire assets in Ethiopia and then he went to calling me telling I mean then Allan Poe's tell about all the stuff that I you know I was giving Lonzo money in college and you know solely Sweet Sixteen Jerseys and but skip I I don't. I don't really watch ball in the family but I saw this clip. We'll Lonzo said I'm own man and I'm in charge of a UH future he did and he said he told the Lamelo you take charge of your future. Did that's not an accident that he said that he said that for reason. That's not scripted. You know that's real. I think you're right now. The one kid who's got the best shot the easiest path hat is the youngest one because he sees where all the pitfalls are riled the minefield lays he can look at all the mistakes that were made with Lonzo in how Lonzo alerts the nominee to go down there. I only do that. I'M GONNA take Lonzo took a ride. I'm GonNa take yes Lonzo took a right now. I'm going straight ahead. Yes you absolutely it becomes easier because you see the mistakes that was made before. You and you don't have to make those same mistakes but all that aside. I just hope none of this is true. I really do skip this would be this would be horrible. Look that Lebron was stealing money from his own son. That'd be a terrible loop. I I mean and lawns. Labar said he didn't know this look skip got homeboys and they've done some things like I'm not look. If you've gone to jail for stealing you know for stealing money or why the bankruptcy you might do security but you can't be in charge of the money beat around nowhere near the money you can work security. You'll hip wake in to your point. Lavar says he had no idea he'd been to preserve right when when they will emit friends and family so maybe they were taken taken advantage there. There's no guarantee I mean that's not to say that he could have gone to prison and turned his life around. There's a lot of scheming and conniving inch crew out here that have not gone to prison bet steel end up going to prove this so I don't want people to think well just because he went to prison doesn't mean he he couldn't change his life and turned his life because he could have in there. There are a lot of stories out here of guys and gals that have gone to prison and turn their life around. I got oh. I don't want people to think that's not what I'm saying yeah by the way the. La Times did report the FBI is invaded. Excuse me investigating Austin Austin yeah so no not his claim. Oh yes in four weeks ago okay so they're already involved in again. Dan Is he trying to deflect blame bright. I Dunno Lonzo say I just want my money. I won't buy one point five billion all that Lavar hear what you're saying that you know I'm breathing okay then and I got a job in the NBA but I still want my one point five million because I want my money I earned it and I want it back yeah and if you can't give Begi going to jail this lawsuit is alleging far more than just one point five and you just want him to focus on a fresh start that we were looking for the six. NFL writers analysts ranked the NFL rookies through four weeks of play. There were two notable emissions funds from the top ten cardinals. QB cuyler Murray and giants quarterback Daniel Jones raiders running back. Josh Jacobs had the top spot and governments. She was the only quarterback in the top ten so shannon. Do you agree with Kyle Jones missing out on the top ten yeah I have no problem whatsoever with Colin Murray being left off skipped top ten. He has not been a difference maker this season so ten players have been better than Collar Murray one thousand percents there such a thing. I don't know if you can get better than a hundred percent but there is something better than a hundred percent probably say one thousand rookies have been better. There's only fifty hundred player so I don't know about how do I know him better than him skip so I stopped abruptly meeting skip. I don't know if anybody knows is uni but Calamar has been really bad in the first three quarters. did you know they played four games. The old all three and one and in those first three quarters of those four games the cardinals with Calum Murray at quarterback scored two touchdowns in in the first three quarters of four ballgames. Yeah that's what caliber has his resume. He has zero twenty six and two touchdowns in the first three quarters and you like and that's impactful worst yard for a temp first three-quarters. There's five point six skip it that good and interesting that not no. It's not your turn yet. Daniel Jones has been difference maker he should be on the list just boys first game alone he might have had the best birth gameboy rookie quarterback in NFL history to touchdown throw in three eight hundred yards two touchdowns running and the game winner now yeah it took an act of Congress and a handle formed win the gay but that's not the here note there to go hand of Janus but we've seen him be a difference maker this entered they've won two games. They're not winning that game. Allows allows their quarterback and they get down by eighteen as a matter of fact. I don't think he loves everyone again so he should be on the list just for that alone but Calamari not being it on this list. I have absolutely no problem because he doesn't deserve to be on the list and you know it. I don't know if anybody knows this Jenny but football at least the game I watch it consists of four quarters three so you're saying period end of story after three quarters for Collar Murray Yeah we're waiting. We're going to rank him just off his first three quarters of his first four games four games how many they want okay so there you go so but we do leg day. Count is don't count. Here's what I've seen so far. The upset of the year in the National Football League was orchestrated by Cuyler Murray in his first ever. NFL Start Against the Detroit Lions who by the way beat your eagles in Philly they beat the chargers they took my homeboy to the wire. The other day took him converting a fourth and eight with his legs to survive at Detroit that team got tied in Arizona because that little quarterback said watch this in his first ever. NFL start in the fourth quarter he he goes fifteen of nineteen for a hundred and fifty four yards. That's just in the fourth quarter. I think the fourth quarter counts on the scoreboard. It's not a three quarter. Maybe I missed it. I don't know anyway fifteen thousand nine hundred forty one fifty four just in the fourth quarter with two touchdowns and they pull off a tie and some people we're all over cliff Kingsbury because he did not go forward at the end because they could have just gone for your because he didn't want to be Oh and sixteen so he's like I'll be fifteen in one but I don't WanNa be uh-huh and sixty eight the most impressive outcome of any gain. The biggest upset was the tying of Detroit area is what are you talking about impressive Eh imprisonment amount of time you tell me how bad Arizona telling you how good Detroit is stop it. That was the most impressive performance of the year by an underdog Al quarterback you can top it. Show me a better one because you can't and then a menu has been better but those aren't upsets. That's a good football team. Would they were underdogs underdog. Hopeless underdogs okay so then he turns right around and he goes to Baltimore. You've been beating the drum over there for Baltimore Baltimore all year long. The Ravens a really good they're good on defense cuyler almost pulled it off again. He goes crazy in the fourth quarter again against Lamar Jackson and Samore Lamar Jackson it in Hollywood Brown right up the rail with the throat to save the game for them so there's two really good games and by the way in that game and he went twenty five of forty three forty nine three forty nine and he's not in the top ten no really no oh interesting so those were obviously the the best to debut game since Canam Right Cam went four hundred four hundred never could set the bar to feel. I got to thinking okay again but but again the game I watched because I watched it Sunday against Russell Wilson look like he was at it again. In the fourth quarter right away fourth quarter he goes eight plays eighty yards scores on a quarterback draw and I thought oh he's going to pull it off again and guess what Russell Wilson took the ball and went ninety yards for touchdown the other way because Arizona's not very hey good on defense offense. I not very good offensive line. It's Larry Fits or kind of Boston and I thought David Johnson would really told host that rock and he's turned into Todd Gurley. Oh now you blamed on his land when I tried to tell you skip when I say skip he's he's leaving the best offensive line in college football going to the worst off his line in pro football you like that little guy special going to change life. He'd say nobody like okay about the to change his mind and go like I should have been on that diamond last night with the as so is a lot of faith how he might have pushed him over the topless. Whatever I I will say within the whole road because he wouldn't bring it skew he's five seven? He wouldn't bring it under those home runs back. Okay my badge a few more inches three-quarters. Let me get this straight. The quarterback who debuted in the first two games with three hundred eight yards passing and then three forty nine in pulled off the comeback of the year to tie the lions nearly beat the Ravens. The Ravens is not in the top ten. Oh okay so I look at these players. Brian Burns earns. I liked him. You know he's pretty out of Florida state. He's been pretty good player. Burnell savage has been he's been nice for Green Bay. I'll give mench. UK Okay the other Josh Allen for Jacksonville. I've watched Jacksonville a couple of times. He never jumped off my TV screen. Love Chase win of its loved him. Last year. You goes interview there you go and he's really funny. He's kind of the new gronk except he's on defense for the Patriots in caliber three Oh has he oh oh oh man electric. You know what you gotTa do is. Don't watch him until the fourth quarter he do another first three-quarter 'cause he's telling you he did. He threw for three zero. Oh a against Detroit. He's four hundred fifty four. If I'm not mistaken in the fourth quarter rice get he had one hundred and fifty four three quarters so I just WanNa know what's he doing in the first three-quarters. I want to know what he's doing in the fourth quarter because it's the money quarter highways been johnny in the fourth quarter. He was at Oklahoma and he is now. They've been behind. I'm I'm asking is we get down to. TJ Hodkinson and I liked it. I would have changed life for the Detroit. If you don't mind if you don't mind me asking hard nosed pick number one overall right now they're three and one has cal changed life well. He's on his way to you. You've been telling me all you. They're bad for Ericsson. They only with high of the Detroit lions that's life changing for Arizona Okay but the point is does he belong. I just read off these players. Lawyers is even better than those impactful just by virtue of the position he plays he's far more rack which you keep him off the list because if he plays the most important position yeah and they got no wins he should be off the list because he has the ability to be more impactful than the guys on the list. They got a tie of the lions. You'll given within that you guys get to restaurant for Tai Lu. I wouldn't want my door. Will you wear a tie. No I mean very good no no he can't come to my restaurant. I'll I'll have high chairs. Judy Judy was huge it. was you grew the Thai thing. I didn't make it about a high tide because it's all you can do you heaping praise on the guy forgetting straordinaria yeah for a bad team. Why did they pick I because they're bad team? Who is their new coach? He went twenty six thirty at Texas Tech but you but you didn't see say any of that when they when they got Kingsbury cheeseburger boy if I had the pneumonia overall pick I would take them what you got him and what you've got. We're GONNA show so anything into my doubts about cliff in Arizona Ginny Holo kingsborough encounter said we're not gonNA show anything in the preseason will you hadn't shown anything in the regular regular season so whether you're showing some Detroit needed help me out. I don't know you know they almost beat your homeboy. They had dementia question. Are They GonNa make the playoffs yes or no. I don't know okay so they're on the way the nuts on the way. I'm on my way. I'm on my way to Roscoe was after the show really I might not make it but what I'm on my way and that's my intention skill stop. You're on the way to losing this argument. You told me that this guy is. He has ability be transcendent. You say the corporate okay. What does that ally Manning? Was He transcended. He led the League in interceptions as a rookie. Did they tear up the world that you know they did not ooh bad football Zuber who that were. He's got a chance or are they gonNA surrounding with any talent anybody to throw Akeem Butler out Iowa state. I think he was going to help change that kid's life and he broke his hand in training camp out for the year. Okay yes opinion. Hopefully he lives yeah. Check him out out. Ginny knows skew. It'd probably be good if they played pickup basketball zero six guy pick a best bobby great now no no no no runs four or five. I'm your skipped. Just go ahead and admit this year just chalk it up. Show your mail you GonNa take the AL this year about. Does he belong on the team. He uh-huh that's absurd giving this. This is like embarrassing me even have this conversation just a second skip hello. What part don't you understand the big end or the big Ugo know what part did not rea- weighed in three forty nine like you tell me all the time? What what did he gets you Shannon? What did I get high? My restaurant will not let you in your time. It got you owe fifteen in one it work. That's what Kings Bay played for the time. I don't want to be like Cleveland. I don't WanNa be like Detroit. I worry I worry about the protection. I worry about that. A little bit twenty-six outweighed eighteen and fourteen games at Oklahoma knows add up quick doc quickly to the first three. We'll see I told you last year. He's going to win the heisman no over. WTT's got you told me go win. NFL Rookie of the year how that worked out well for way through all you got to get on the list tirade kill returned to practice for the first time since injuring his collarbone week. One Hill was fourth last season. Both receiving yards and touchdowns and Patrick mahomes thinks that with hills return before no chiefs will be even better take a listen. He's a guy that defense half the game plan for defenses have to account for him with maybe one or two guys to try to figure out a way to stop him which helps everybody else out and so having him back and when he gets back I mean and we'll be able to utilize him and these other guys to really expand our offense. Take it to another level Shannon. Is there another level to the chiefs offense in your mind. Yes I believe it. I believe there is the thing that separates tyreek from these other guys that can run Nicole harbor can fly. Marcus Robinson can run but they're young but tyree complete receiver. He's turned himself over the first couple of years of his career from Gin. Just being gathered guy just speed guy he that you rob receiver he he can run the route tree now he can run the out run the combat he can run the digs gives his hand. He gets step. He's out of here what his injury has allowed chiefs chiefs to do is to get hardman and to get Robinson drips so can you imagine they go five rods. They try out Sammy Watkins Tyreek. He'll MECO hardman Robinson and Travis Kelsey Good Luck good luck special another level now to eleven and then you got you got my homeboy controlled in that thing yeah who Graham am ouster here with it already his third year doing things that he shouldn't be doing right now. doing big oil. I would agree with that big boy a lot of you you. Are you upset because you've never seen anything like this. You've never seen someone that is able to command and do the scalp he can make every throw via the five yard. Throw a sixty five yard throat and he's in the perfect offense. He has the PERP the perfect weapon surrounding him. Yes this this offense can go to another level now the run game. We'll need to rush hundred we don't need the cowboys running game but he didn't just give them a little run game just to keep the deep somewhat honest do they just don't drop eight guys all the time he patrolled the NFL trouble so I don't get this another other level. Are They GonNa play on the Moon. Is this ad Astra away. He might get it next. You talk about sixty to download about six thousand yard yard. Really why don't they just go to the moon and just play on the moon with no if anybody could probably gain. Can I interest you in that skill Baylor's forty points the game sixty six thousand yards. Could I interest you in Odell Syndrome or maybe it could be a B- Syndrome. We're about to talk about a B and our next block on on this show but at some point you're going to have too many weapons with two big of Egos happen. Those you don't in writing tyreek is too young to have an ego for this in all of a sudden you're going to try to blend and back in with Kelsey who has twenty four catches and a touchdown so far Sammy it came back alive. He's got twenty three catches and three touchdowns. Somebody's going to have to suffer there and then we get to democracy Robinson. WHO's had a little coming out party? I don't know how big is ego is but he has fourteen catches in three touch. Every time I look up number eleven's catching another and me call. I don't know anything about him but he's pretty high rookie second round but but again he's had some success a catches two touchdowns well there's unless they let him play with two footballs because you get there one left one writer resilient short-lived. Yes we so maybe they'll let the league will mandate that he gets to at once and if he has to at once you got on this because everybody will stay. Have you on guard skip. The question is who you're gonNA throw it to homeboy because at some point somebody's going to be unhappy here just book it. It's life life in the national football league. It's also life in twenty nineteen. Somebody will get unhappy and some quarterback I know is going to go Baker Mayfield because Baker just finally starting starting to crumble under the onslaught of I gotTa Keep Odell happy and Jarvis happy and yet he had an joke who for how can I just two different gottfried ak first year coach and then you got big red engery been in this thing for a while so he understands it but let me tell you how this thing goes guilt see in my business my restaurant restaurant restaurants. I I come for certain I one get open. That's who gets the ball really yep. You don't take reservations bars one get open for one one gift ball. You only get open. Somebody's going to be unhappy skill. You got too many weapons much of a good thing honestly look what Happen Jacksonville Sammy Watkins with Haywire Yup and then the next couple of games. Everybody wanted to double Sammy Watkins and in Harmony Robinson Goes Haywire. How at some point you got to start taking away and then Kelsey killer? Try Go get loose. What you going to do skip which going to do with the Sean I know Leshan Donald Bit been around him quite a bit and love him but he's got an ego and he likes aid half? It said he had a chance to get. I bohm he's already. He's caught nine ball. Shady shady happened to get that's just about to get a bowl shaped like a really do math adelaide illegal Russian all pro. I've been the pro bowl ring. 'cause it don't mean a thing if you ain't ain't got that ring do do well Damian Williams out of the University of Oklahoma. He's got a pretty big ego you did do you see what he's doing. He tried to so see I see through your amy can run it ain't catch and he's hot nine balls. Only one I get only one A. and you only get like seventy five plays and again. That's what we need. You been given by please. We fifty five so we can say if I play we go. Hey Fifty Arya and dimmer homeboy way from Tyler Texas whole hey he'll need much neighbors. It's just down the road from Clinton View Lynnfield. Don't worry about it. Don't worry about what you saw. What he did is that you don't need a whole lot of time 'cause you saw the AFC championship game they're headed stifled bottled up Sam points in the first half and yep four quarter whether there was killed over two hundred and twenty four points in the fourth quarter well what do you can't believe what he capable of blueprint is out as coach? Mangini told us yesterday bell check drew up the blueprint. This is how you at least slow him down sounds look down and Matt Patricia use that blueprint last Sunday in Detroit and he really slowed him. He got thirty one he got he got thirty three points around around fifteen yards. It Slowdown Code Bell voting now he got forty points no that was in the regular season what have in in in the playoff playoff game because he lost what what thirty thirty one he lost thirty one thirty six thirty one thirty seven thirty because they scored in overtime down thirty one thirty so here's the thing about blueprint people blueprints if the house ugly nobody wants that blueprint my homeboy got Sam touchdown to pick them almost eight hundred three hundred twenty yards a game passing that blueprint Bob. If you want to sleep doesn't love hotdogs I know this league catches up with hot hot. Dog Your skill left-handed no look behind the back. Oh he looked into the referenda 'cause he what he say skill he's going to do all this running at broad flag and I was just going to go ahead and take me once I see that although flag put Burma's autozone twenty three out of bow back that would be in this league operates and I know how egos operate rate and you're in for a rougher ride down the stuarts King. Okay stop going to do what we do skip bayless the seeds are planted not by me. GLENHAM PLAN FOR SKIP tyreek is back the back it would be any say nothing about that all these homeboy see it when he comes back and he takes this offense. He didn't say he is back when he comes back. Give you an English major and you know all about this tent comes back and he's back. I actually majored in. NFL that yeah because we're a pipeline nothing major do appreciate Your Passion Shannon for that team is just ready to go with the eagles another team. Yesterday we got our first sneak a peek at the Lonzo to Zion connection during a scrimmage Lonzo through IMOs facet went off the backboard and was snagged Zion who threw it down. Let's keep watching that I like it. Shed how impressive was this well who knew dunk wow in a non impressed. I don't know I mean we saw we all the way through ninety four feet dunks to Lebron when he was a Miami and this I mean looks like it's going to be another Gary. Payton Shawn Kemp situation. They're gonNA have highlight dunks on a nightly basis because Lonzo is a good. It's a good facilitator in Zion can jump out of the building. That's what I got for you. That's all that's no. You let me get let me get this the best don't you've ever seen what I'm with you because I was shocked that his teammates were in awe of that dunk because because that was his whole home for that guy is you can get because he didn't even sky for that. He barely went up over the rim. I like the past had genius on it because I don't know Beth about the glass he said I was a little off. Target Zayn had to catch a short run off the glass but but again you're going to see a whole lot more than that. Yes and I felt a little sorry for him because they're putting this tape out there for everybody to see is if they're trumpeting see what our guy did by the way Garden Nine Guy from Italy Nicolo Meli they rave about him as a shooter but but again he's six nine and he just play defense on. I'm not sure that was all that impressive. I mean go ahead but it's going to be another Sh- gary. Payton and Shawn Kemp is going to be a rainman situation on a nightly basis it. He's GonNa Highlight Artsy. Thanks for listening to the undisputed podcast. I'm Johnny tapped join us again at the same time tomorrow morning nine thirty eastern. We'll see you then flats of

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Aakrit Vaish CEO of Haptik - Voicebot Podcast 200

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Aakrit Vaish CEO of Haptik - Voicebot Podcast 200

"This is two hundred of the voice. By podcast i guess today's aggravate the ceo and co founder. Haptic it's a sas solution for building. Enterprise intelligent assistance and it was acquired by reliance jio twenty nineteen for reported one hundred million dollars. Hello voice by nation. Welcome back. I'm brechin seller your host the voice by podcast and this is episode. Number two hundred. Wow that's a lot of interviews and a lot of innovators that i've had the chance to speak with since twenty seventeen every week. We've posted at least one episode and most of them have been more than an hour long. Almost all of them been more than hour-long so that's a lot of conversation. I'll be doing a two hundred show. Recap episode coming up with a few longtime listeners. Could be used as well if you're interested but stop right now. Because i need something from you i need you to send me a tweet of your top one or two favorite guests that i've had over the years and anybody that does this little. Thank you for you as well so keep that in mind so as you know. I'm app reconciler on twitter. You can post the tweet and tag me or sanity. Up will work doesn't have to public can't be public if you want or can just be. Tm other totally acceptable beat the need one or two top guests. That made an impression on you over the years from the voice by podcast. I don't think i asked much of you listeners. Very often this would be really greatly appreciated. That's one of the reasons. Why send you a little thank you. Well talk today though. We're not looking backwards. We're looking forward with haptic. Ceo and co founder accurate bache. He has quietly built one of the most successful startups in conversational. A in his done. So made it into a big player with clients ranging from samsung and ohio to kfc coca cola club hendra and cirque insurance along the way the company also racked up a nine figure exit but then investment was designed to accelerate growth. Which is what will speak about today before we get started. I have a quick shout for our sponsor and that's voice flow. You know voice flow. They started out as a no code. Conversational ai builder. But they've grown into a full sas platform for designing prototyping and launching conversational experiences. Thousands of conversation experiences have been launched on the platform already voiced recent fee to release built on the design and development collaboration tools. It started rolling out in twenty nine and this year. They added a new t k. The nabil's them to work with any tech stack or conversational platform. These new features enable users to swap in their preferred text speech. They're automated speech recognition or natural language understanding technology. You know that his t. s. and l. u. voice flow also moved beyond its roots alexa skills and google assistant. You can still support those platforms but new features also able design development of custom assistance. Which i am told by a company insider is a very fast growing segment of users for them today. So check out. The new veto release at voice flowed dot com. They have over sixty thousand users on the platform that have already tested it out in advance of you showing up. Thanks again to voice. Vote for supporting independent media. Like voiced by podcast. A lot has changed over there in recent years. So if you haven't checked it out recently. I definitely recommend you. Head over to voice flow dot com now to this week's gas aggravates east co founder and ceo of haptic. They provide software to build enterprise class virtual assistance. They have an impressive roster. As i mentioned at the top of the introduction happy customers at managed to over two billion conversations on one hundred million devices using the software so two billion conversations. That's a lot of user sessions. Vice started out the company in two thousand thirteen and broke right through the chap craze of recent years to building some lasting conversational experiences for customer support user gays and more recently for ecommerce part of haptic vice was director of global business operations and oversaw the company's business in india at flurry and flurried. They were the leading mobile app analytics company at time. He was employee number. Four in the business side. Here's an engineering degree from the university of illinois next up building virtual assistance for big brands. Accurate bass shares story of ticks rise and conversational i. Let's get started. I vice welcome to the voice by podcast. Thanks for having me anybody saturday. Well great and i should have said welcome back because you're just a couple of months ago when we were doing our year in review in india that was that was actually very popular episode. I appreciate you contributing your thoughts to the Voice black community about what's been happening in the conversational. Ai space in india. But i think probably what we should start with year is. Why don't you give the listeners. A little bit on your background. So what you're doing at haptic and what's what hap- dick's role is in the world. Thanks again for having me Yes it was it was it was to the to be india story end though. I think it was intricate. Get some of the other views on that for our staff from some of the other speakers as well So on positionally. I a company of we have been in business or under seven yards We actually originally started An involvement here sock the company in san francisco a then. We moved operations to india after a few years because the week included there was a very large emerging market opportunity that we wanted to go after and then over the last two years we we have about the middle one hundred and rice customers that we will with across upper mentally jaguars In addition recently immoral in voices Essentially whenever that is You know and enabled into action whether dexter speech that siri whether he wants to wants to participate in either value to our customers aren't abuse cases. End up the customers. Overestimate service of ulcers low hanging food or but also seeing a lot of demand recently for popping on relations bombers and people won't be directly by using the faces and then While we are back home the company was acquired. The reliance jio platforms. Which is so. Reliant industies by senators largest In this show that four hundred billion dollar market cap company. ngo is the internet arm of Of tanabe operated as part of a substantive yo jio platforms empty. New billion grow up is addictive rather to get whatever it takes over the last couple movie. We started on backing automatic because we believe product that we've created as well as technology announced that e. a. retaken The us's role and more my orson binders now. Stand off kind of building and working dot. Us customer base to dagmar. Aren't that's great. I'm glad you brought up. A reliance jio so maybe you could explain to the listeners. Because i think obviously there's gonna be a lot of listeners in india which will be very familiar with us but a lot of our. Us listeners will not a general i think is the number one feature phone handset maker in the country and then has some What we would call sort of value segment smartphones as well correct. Yeah i mean Geo is laurel defend aides. I would say you know. A jewish gio is trying to be You know in one shape or form a Isan plus amazon. Altering the and i know that sounds a bit the which to unrealistic almost particularly to listen the. Us that honesty one five away. From what verizon wants to be which is out as ten all the five embiid bid services on That's what you has done. So that am actually started out as an opioid dunia. India's not just on the words or not just about four hundred and fifty million fables off and then what they've done is they've used the line on ankle network in the fight that unsold without a set of up services on on that drains. From on day on mars and software salon end is everything from you know Music streaming service while gomez is essentially have now only all morris company on that s taking on amazon and the market software includes companies like ours are were basically building software for businesses on enterprise building trauma and selling and You know the longer vision relief for gio is to be more of an incident in else on with sort of illegal as ambitious backbone and yes You know as bottled that. They also are feature phone ten. Said go back to your point. That slightly est one of de mr date You know it's it's something that's important to them. The feature phones also have voice assistant technology into nathan. We didn't the handset itself by the you know that that's something that simply wrong being as a as chuck so thanks for that background. I'm really interested in the feature phones and particularly because you said a lot of the phones. That reliance jio. Has they now have voice assistance and one of the things. I've been talking to people about for some time is if you have a feature phone that typically doesn't have internet access or really it does have internet access as access to just a few services if that feature phone has a voice assistant on it. Maybe it's now a smartphone because it can actually start to do all the things or many of the things you could do at a more robust more robust your typical smartphone yeah You know it was interesting in that game on bygone for that was different reach. Was that I knew it was something that i think when i dodged the born in one of our readers. Somebody in that some point which is You know In india A lot of the population that got indie. Knock on the internet He's he's actually on not comfortable or not comfortable. Engaging with anything in english So a lot of this relation is going to be When we needed for two as the language anything. I which includes basically we Each languages only unique part of course of of Like india is You know unlike life china for example which brought me hasn't ninety that make up most of the You know knitting bubbalicious. I team and i You know rich rich on all of them have the same you know By next version sudan which been fulfilled by. You know people. So i as i wanted Type of pieces behind You know The voice assistant on the geo cohen was a large part of the population. That means might like he gets on the internet using boy. I almost like Roy any as the You know nomination so say To be able to do You know in the actual teacher for Behind it and You know it's basically something mostly use commandments. And four on actually the four. Because it's easier to speak in your language. But he was commissioned food more with the mission or lend itself really through the region languages that india right. Yeah that makes total sense to me. And so you'd mentioned also. The geos really focused on these services on top of the telecom content commerce and software so it seems like a haptic might be the software layer but you actually impact the content and commerce pieces. Well radio Away where so. We are basically to mention that. Essentially we have you know from Which is saying you know. is relentlessly adopted by the food and You know in the waited customers involved like So Know they so in that bucket but boy pursue dollars Known mediary is where for all right. And so i i was interested. In the way you characterized haptic saying you've founded it in the. Us came moved the operations to india. Because you saw some unique opportunities. now you're you're back in the us. and i was. We haven't talked about in this vast. But i know you were at flurry years ago. And you're in the us. And i think you went to india to open the flurries first office there. Correct that I I was looking to media with shame on day. I moved out there so and that was in mobile analytic space. I believe so. I'm interested in that too. Because i think about so. I guess the first question is we can just talk about it in terms of the mobile analytic space. When you moved to you the office there obviously the timing that you're doing that mobile was exploding. Globally what did you learn in that space that you think was an objective lesson for what we're doing today. What you see today know. Maybe how is it different or similar to the the the new tech trends that we're seeing around conversational. Ai compared to mobile yeah Question so no one of the things that One of the things that are no into Family she i voice and rented Many on the usage of the maybe if the in emerging markets but with you know i one inside which is the way that you know people in in and they defend perhaps all the way to think about it. you know In india and single day i mention they are which is in the vote was in the houston. And think i i for me. I'm emerging markets. Is everything china africa You know southeast asia on the knees and then i'm gonna be speaking english speaking world. Which is the west nuclear shania again and so on So that one forty to You know about How india is passing weapons on a businessman We asked think that it's You know life you know. You're you know when he like he's my name is somebody knows more than more than actually and defend You know all businesses in the way you have to leave markets inviting actually being thing the market like for example. You know in in india or something that will watch. That is a very large china of engagement for the now part of the world like you also can on the nuts indiana view but in the us. But exactly what time and like my moves much so you know just one changes for marketing. Chronic strategies so medicine ways for these markets in india with a whatsapp i dunno and went would not even what that also today many different within the market and so i think that You know question depends on all this making. He's nothing that the general usage of software in these markets reaching defense and by the same inside the new are through. You know I in the us and the outcome because we just saw opportunity over here the dying in front of the And and and maybe that's a great insight i. I've never heard anybody talk about that before. But it makes total sense to me. I i've been. I've been involved in this as well. I was with sapient back in two thousand two thousand and four. And when i joined the company had actually just recently set up their first india office which is really for fulfilling projects in the us and europe and then it grow grow very quickly and by two thousand and four. Three quarters of the company was indian in india. Just a little bit in the us in europe so as it was a big transformation and the they did a really nice job of actually setting up sort of the sapient culture and building out a really effective delivery mechanism but they really were never able to get a lot of traction in india to do work. And maybe it's because just the businesses were different and they were trying to create this one consistent business globally and but they were going to market with the us and europe just wasn't landing properly for buyers in india we and it is Definitely already finished my to pretty big liability things that mindset as well as sort of a global market in terms of the way you think about what you're saying is on their The way sex standards everything. But i feel working interesting. That is that since we've been doing rush it's now it's actually Rendering diverse. I'm learning learning pod for business hours because You know whatever and other things that we are now going to work the. Us require us to change. Johnson a Company and one of the things that i think thinking about right now. Is you know what. Even i was way about me. All organization stopped in a way that that is on me between each businesses. But at the same time you don't all have to be the makes makes sense to me. So you know it's interesting so you're at flurry. Mobile was exploding. And then you walked away from that because you saw such interesting opportunity in the conversational. Ai space with haptic. So what did you see back at that time when mobile look like a rocket ship in. You're like no. I'm going to jump into this other area which is really nascent. I the question. None of going to make everything came together late. So here's what happened. I actually i i. I always knew that. You know the thing for me after he was going to be some sort of startup. Affray wanted to somebody I didn't know when. I know how i didn't know where you right I moved to mobilier stories in your office. One of the things that we saw was the explosion in the use of messaging And we made by being a thirty we had a number of customers messaging beneath based. So you know you'll be able to see how they're doing and what that data looks like that So i've been arguing amongst all the money on mobile and that time Managing was by far everyone engagement perspective. Like out of out of whack on average would use meaning ask you know i time the day this was considered high in the dying. You know you're w was A messaging tony and and again. This is back robin on the obvious. So reading when i kind of showed it. Wow that's something we want all and then you know the oldest messaging got any time to what one of them but they will reach out and so some back time or jobe There was a number of aspects laws. you know attacking me there was some but i feel these all of them dying quite a few you know your millions of active users right all of them had the thing visibly enough so i i basically before you might even constitutionally i i really excited about the ideal this the messaging and the fall but By the end that if people want to use bonding this. So many times often This how they were all the nightcap store data sort of on and just important that he ended up with a upstart and that time. We didn't really know which action this would be In terms of You know whether we'd and number laying you know whether we'd ended up then she asked for the record. You're on a skin on agency that us for like so many on that. Look the out of them from being honest in japan and then I don't mean the. Us they or as as night the union back for it on We native thirteen. And my if you know this. I leo bunch initial Actually one of the absentee not was just seeing even more complicated. But it was just you know It and do what that And what types turning to nearly the cornerstone of union back from that time that was more learning and even now they don't lose us And that's when you know we kind of move When i was a i was of the baby and india and we're not only had So that's when we decided that we don't know what's going to happen. Specifically what tapping time. Saddam definitely but like when julie messaging Jordan more than most other places. So let's think about what we do here. And then slowly governable table been more realize e i or the jaguar to the place to kind of get stuck in and then eventually you know on additionally either before so what was your first product. Jumar mobile laugh So we are and how about that. Was that Today there's no and fourteen There's no way too late or something. It's on top of that. So the next thing. Is you do mar. Because the un definitely one a message based so lose something so we Be messaging based at the different download the app to send message say. Hey i'm looking to book a flight in your mind minder whereas when the this the m how do i Finding out how. The food essentially anything and everything on tuesday to start. If you remember there was a film that flying the diamond post by jack bombers That we all need the eighty that the operated in so what did you learn from that and actually i guess the obvious questions. Is that app still available. Noncommittal anymore we i any ban funds about Nine months back it was. I mean we saw all yours that would be completely A lot of your best i'm not sure i wanted Because you know so. I'll be two things the exit of any independent. Say anything with doctor and being the foundation of the company that we become pretty. What did we know. We one in that john Cowboys i'm not very good on location in north many board for free for c. Question not even want to use messages. We want our voice but his thumb. Then he with his who you always which might be a site or just a few of us Second what we know into our back The demand for the technology firm. Additionally i nine more Read the muslim easy access to other businesses rugby having good lord or you i mean this point right moving city by the bill moose h. And only for many many but in the end of the day off and running back user when we all know that name is nearly that much what these things like on. the people. don't think of when i won't do on their song shortly. I can say since lyndon. I'm better or worse when i go fly. I want open. When i think about fooled thinking that i'm not getting way too Assistance and i want to say so. That was the thing that we know. And the on. Which is one of the i in your phone then definitely may in initially i. I just like i've always said bed for like any any on that. I've been through this Saying that voice of justice they is I've always been dated. it's only bad. You design but not very much their job because the right problem. Hugh station leandra. Okay so. I'm so glad. I asked you about this. I found what you learned. That was a really eloquent day way to explain. Not just what you learned. But i think what is i've identified as an emergent truth in this space so i this idea that that simple infrequent tasks are really well suited for assistance of any kind whether it be a chat bot her voice assistant. And that's what we actually see through the data. I think consistently but i feel like i've been talking about sort of a conversational bigots out there that they there's these people who are building they they're building in the space and they wanna do the really interesting thing that many turns it's multiple services all integrated at the same time and and that is more difficult technical challenge and so they. It's really elegant if they can figure out how to do it. But then it doesn't actually aligned with what the users want more. I mean i also who business the marines lines. One two dollars i. They don't stay anywhere but the our all the deal. That china ball like i mean and my first question on that point is it. What's the point of the book. What's the point of the site you know. It's like saying You know and. I'm sure you've been you Nudity in passages Just because you have in your interface and a new way of doing not being able to feed the same type of that you know. I run every business. My fish through that interface. Like to me like you know what i ask him out. Everybody said the rebel be day. You know look what happened right anything but i mean You know That it does even right websites and those in exists and they are very very important. I'm according to acting like out that You know on twitter. Facebook would never have lived. There was the mobile app at the same time if i would've known as accessible and there was no listening for everything and the same goes with the conversation. They are nearly apple identified. The ocean the new scheme. Make for all right so this is fascinating to be so you are learning about the messaging space through big in the market so this is a very traditional. Mvp or lean startup Mvp approach for product development. You'll learn a few things that was important. So the fact that you shut it dowd you obviously. I don't know it was a failure in terms of that product but it wasn't going to be the big opportunity for you in you saw from a messaging standpoint that you could actually start building tools there. So what was the first product you offered in the messaging space. Yeah so the first You know As well so funny. Saudi like but we will We had this frontier service out. It was out there before you get an all right away. So he did get to a point. We'd had over Which wasn't tiny taste low and and a bunch of capital back back pieces now though so we as raise fee Any like you know going backstage You know only only for that millions of users and You know I basically For your point site where still being able to stay beyond that because many people like i said there's no need really wanted to move those as i really wanted being about Assist in fiji. You don't need to inform them visually on any time soon then obviously so And we were thinking about what the new nationality we should of or you know what is an extraordinary going to be what we do. And then we're so funny. They because daily using the on so reserve. Florida who us to and i want to You know I want to give me that an hour. Better sort of jack niche assistance for my on the so you know essentially a giant bar for another amount of myself so some danish soccer i think. Hey look you know i in versus addison. Any white label the tech foams and that wasn't was was our moments ready said okay. Wow would be an interesting opportunity. What does she need business. Or fight in the word and often than the big problem So that's how we started dating back bad. You know the The child more emerged as a who specifically. So let's you actually do any better over for that. Yeah that's probably another great argument for being in the market with a product because that product might be successful on its own. It might lead to other things and you went from a i. Guess a ac- product company software up software and services company to be to be In in just that one one or two interactions. Yeah i mean re ran on. That would be active. Users will come team that cares about what league you know it was it was. It was a a To stock gating about you know you line. Okay great so you this actually. I'll destroy this analogy a couple years ago. I was writing and voice insider that my observation was that a lot of people were looking at alexa and google assistant in the us and europe and saying that's really interesting what they're doing there and they weren't necessarily saying oh i wanna be on these platforms and reach their audience. Some of them were saying that but a lot of them are saying. Wow it's really useful to be able to have this voice assistant relationship with the user. Am i see if i had that relationship with my customer. What would that do. How could i extend my services. Drive more loyalty in those types of things. So i was like alexa. Google alexa google assistant. Were going to be the assistance that launched a thousand assistance. And we're starting to see that now. People are sort of building their own assistance. Both in chat voice in a much much bigger way. And i think that's exactly what you did. You demonstrated people the value through your app and then all of a sudden. They wanted themselves because they want to be able to control their own destiny which was You know we saw the textbook. Like i say back then isn't back on the challenge like everybody who jazz they were seeing. How when it works really waiting doesn't doesn't work with me not that i wrong wrong at of from them to solve After all so when people were in magadan that's fan That's you know We started seeing that infection. Your digital customers did they want to use the technology inside of whatsapp. Did they wanna use it inside their own app and what use cases where we talking about was it. We want to be able to do customer service right away or they wanted to get into commerce or some sort of product extension research into that point or whatsapp signal that phone You know the The ability that was almost need not be. John barr with the mobile app. my Heart but Who is the use code. So i wanted to be able to I i can you know i actually A provider of phone wifi services at the airport And leon dead. Were already the nature life idea for you know back when i worked So you know longer john boyega cheering for the dog. That the more louis about four cases Meaning one four all of One Was i do watch. I bought two new generation. Almost where see. I wanna like was the holidays and the fabulous case where they would membership showdown only find I and then sign up for membership. So and i'm saying i should. You know they wanna akbar and then it's all of which was Lrn fm g You know Where i live. I can say and they wanted to check for messenger before being on a combination of mouth The rules inform your the the information. You fish information on the whether you know The new actually coming on the facebook pages. About how good for them for my head. I need on the issue of research. Were you also. so we didn't. I mean To me do all the food and they were trying to it You know all the food by the gaelic style on inside so we decided where opinionated action. Yeah would only on the issue yeah. That's that's great. And i'd be really interested that you did a facebook message about now so you did that early on were there. I can imagine what the timing was. Because these all of a sudden Very popular for. I think a short period of time. Maybe you can tell that that's still existing but that's not what i've seen Were there are a lot of people who are looking to get on facebook messenger at that point or was that more of just a couple of companies and then they moved on to other things going on in this part of the word i was the. Us is but in this day. Nobody arrows a photo facing china's foreign these So it was just a couple of i mean. Do we done like what's your four. Facebook who is not Selena's and we even back day. You only really right. There are probably wouldn't have been that big of a demand. Anyway i think the us. I think there's a different conversation about how facebook blew it because they had an opportunity there. You're somehow just was not realized that the hype was never fulfilled. Mostly because i don't know the use cases were good enough to bring the consumers in the back yard and then back based on the the same diamond. Seeing what's going on there was so many on the your bauxite And another one that also take something like joe and all the other. why And i i need so much. I found myself going with some type. Something was you know. Nineteen few based some perspective. But that was the on what we saw with the he would run into the. Us will be the number of people but to monetize point Do with this fateful numbing. Molina shit right okay. So let's get back to what's app because now you can actually build services within what's app your talk to me about. What are some of the use cases that you see working well there if and if they are working well or it's really you're better off focusing on mobile and web ya know what change your word apple business as many To show people he particularly business and We have definitely seen the use case. Were really do i. It might be riots right and this is my we have by. This obviously is usually you have to say why i was the same sort of interesting soon. most all maintain that you might be used to finding a whole number phone. Is that when the most falling waiting for years That their behavior sosa mundo because he was found i so now before businesses like when they'll be is that he You know all flyers for damage should jane. What was now. That i point Number and we'll know that but in the new form and wish science ed donahue and asia Also thanked sometime calling having that much anyway. Probably even watch more than the not among us. What back more than mine. Usage of all other apps on your phone you because obviously that he was on the doctor right so so. We're seeing Racing not so we got ready for these worsening in customer heard or maybe a half city diet customer service to in some cases there. there's not even any channels me sane. You'll need a better had issues. Exactly on what Which maybe it's me regarding. And all that. I actually been thinking to my team during the only thing that You know we need to position in boston. the woman no longer yoga number call is now your phone number one And nation of automation bought in asia. Or your your question on. Yeah i like this model so first of all. I think a lot of people thought like self service on the web like self. The self service concept was completely no. It actually wasn't when in the past. When we bought products we had manuals and so that was just a that was the analogue version of self service and we moved to the to the web. Had call the real time but then in between there we have this introduction of an asynchronous conversation but it was by email which i think in some ways was revolutionary when it first came out but it quickly showed its deficiencies. It moved on and if you move up to messaging. It's very different it. It is actually very similar to that call center or that the call phone call experience it is conversational but it because it's a synchronous. There's all these other benefits that you can get. And then if they if they increase it increase the service level to being essentially synchronous than than it provides even more delight to people. Plus they can do it anywhere. They don't have to be a place where they can here or anything like that. They can just type it and be done. I'm looking at We which we all about in on your home. You have the likes rain relaxing actually all comedy and both on the phone i no. I don't have any going on. What we holly your ready for the wage. And i'm not as in a week but then you always look who's asian that one something different. They did i magazine over to me that actual model ever that is dollars with the other use cases. Well that a lot of times when you have issues with a product or service. It's an issue that comes up again. It's not necessarily just something that happens. Once if i have that recorded the phone the next time. Maybe i don't even have to go back to reaching out to them directly. I can just go. Look at my transcript. Which how how in. It gives me instructions and fix the problem. I have a record of it are well. Let's talk about commerce. Because you mentioned that. At the top. And i i believe that you see that commerce through messaging and in conversational interactions is really getting started. But showing a lot of promise right now so maybe you could unpack what you're seeing on that front now. Young wanna be more from november Happening things i would we actually so i think They sort of not even half by mesa one of force because of the Whole of is something that is no longer an option lately at the The the Me and He's to have to have you know Needs to have found some now in to what we're seeing is That for Three next Action very manji all for that. Might he might boy and by that. I thought complex election. Maybe unusual on question Finally like a website or something in the Fraud You know Radio i on that people can bind joni so like crime and i thought You know now you know. Let's say i'm on the west side on me. You know you have a say. Hey you know looks like for your car and ask questions You know you want to know. About whom on colleen and with the Each with my own. They don't have any bad. Or if you. I whole homebody being on revenue. Minute him on these phones You know seeing my talk on the yet We'll be like the meeting. Anything within my also You know The point you know. I my number into google Back to Again is part of the word we are more people Us what each y. Amount some food action yet but people are saying that you're on the channels that i told you about eleven is under that way. Why get the shore. You have in my You know One other about god. When i chased questions to the getting back from like the actors the fans she so buying You know watched that funding. Then who the apple fan action from. What i think is buying. I think it'd be a mobile for them. I that is The something on the feature saw more signing or longer knew who recommended that i just sort of I think the be him up. Main thing when abe buying within okay so you said a lot there so i just want to go back to something you said earlier. What are the things you learned through your initial work haptic. Was that the things that worked these. Simple infrequent interactions and the complex. Infrequent didn't work. But now you're saying if we think of this being a spectrum of simple and frequent too complex and infrequent it's almost like the opposite ends of the spectrum have the most promise the simple infrequent still work but the complex and infrequent actually is a really open opportunity. Because you have this concept of the assistant buying journey so here for all of the things. I was the one office on that. They would to me by a five. When i wouldn't mind. I believe like for example. I assume mine accommodation just as long as you understand. You like makes sense to me i. This has been a fascinating conversation. I want to Explorer something a little bit different because we've been talking about what's apple lot and messaging on the phone mobile apps those types of things. But i wanted to come back to this idea of the web. I was having a conversation clubhouse a couple of weeks ago with some folks and we're talking about the idea that the web is still the largest surface area for digital interaction so and it's almost seems like people have forgotten about it now. I don't wanna say that completely. Because we've got chat bots. We've got we've got a lot of chat bots and most of them are not intelligent right there. Really just more routing people to faq's or trying to get them into give an email address further conversion funnel. But when i look at the conversational. Ai space where people are trying to actually use technology and create this ongoing conversation multi turn engagement. They're thinking about mobile they're thinking about maybe alexa google They're not really thinking a lot about how they can integrate to that to the web and it seems to me a missed opportunity because the web's not going away as you said it's probably even more important in many ways it was before mobile because baba's funneling people's the web you know i honestly On what we've been talking about for the last You know. I my from field days. I've had in the last like our years i. I wasn't individual professions. Like my first job was thirty Whatever and Some people. I was the lead boy from me i was. I grew up in a movie after mine. And we'll be worth mankind of big game over but what we need seventy percent of our on where was leaving. He would because You know he actually. My is like back to the hours. And where do you know which is neat. You know his business on dot com. When you think about the business human today the thing you do is new voter removal and search for them. And that's what he's going to go to the absolute to You know you both of them with you know if you wanted to talk about and if you want to do you know and so much so i think that's been one of the more so i mean will lose You know the one that you know. He's businesses must've yes. So are you expecting that to be a bigger and bigger portion of your business. Or how does your business break down today between mobile web or other surfaces about half of the last five hundred and twenty five percent i know on need on the Looking for the next strategy. My i say the same thing i mean people were ended like living and things like that which You know i've i've sort of thing But i think i see that they were sneak. Why voice now in about Voice on onto the vision for example are so we we are really in your life together. So i mean we see some of that into Much yeah. I would say on for me anyway. And there's labor and be all the new stuff doing mrs boy from a religious is Some of the stuff we do. So yeah so i'm glad you brought a voice. I think that's a that's a great way for us to sort of bring together. It seems to me that up to this point chat and voice have been essentially on different paths. Maybe you could say they're parallel past. I wouldn't necessarily say they were complementary although there's probably an argument jimmy me there but they were mostly separate and it seems like over the last year in particular there were seeing a lot more convergence that chat bots that historically were text only are sort of expected to be adding voice although it. I don't think it's maybe at that level of you must have it yet. But there's a lot who were doing it. And i think there's a growing expectation that there should be that option and that we see on the voice side More and more voice. Assistance are trying to supplement voice interaction with the text interaction for those times. When it's just more convenient to to type what are what are you seeing. There is is your data or your observations is at reinforce that or do you still think separate pass or maybe you don't agree with that initial premise points. I should not. I think i don't. I'm onto a new comment on the issue because when to many things going on I think within one you by usc. Some sort of looking in going back to the fact that With both of them. I want to be used saw this team and both of them are finding the most success own duckworth because i w bush i Because i really am not. We've gone into it. It was simply really need launches. Jon how endorphins. And we're standing on you and he. What are you going to do a lot back And started getting enough that we can do about that whether we always which always for the longest omission of off the line for any But he win by I knew orange. The i think people thought that they were looking in roy moore assisting and be a lot more support night But i think because of the on weekday mornings so we've talked a lot about support customer service and that seems like an area that obviously is getting a bit of a renaissance right now and i. I think you indicated earlier that that was the majority of your business was that but you have these other use cases as well are you expecting. Let's say five years from now. Commerce being the bigger portion of your business or do you think it will still be. It'll still be customer. Service and support is the biggest part of the business but all of the pieces will be bigger. It would be. I don't think by support law things on investment And mean just today One of about all of us are mostly manual data. So forgetting that now of marcus. Absolutely all of them each one. Get a lot I sort of statement. I can't keep up become they in yard and you would have done on that. I think there's the technology and the solution would have been the only Oh almost lesions i your action reading that. I know Between the five day period if they moved abandoned the occupies. This is better basin conversation. I feel like we could talk much logger but we will not because you've given us so much time today. Maybe you could tell the listeners. How they can learn a little bit more about haptic he track of what you're doing on me. I didn't realize the shoe by follow us on twitter at We don't go about and up through our mission of the reason And then i read my email addresses low. So you'll have each you know feature see two thousand. These happy to process is great yet. Another reward for listening all the way to the end poised by five guys listeners. Just got it accurate. Direct email address if you ever need to reach out to about anything so that that's great definitely. Follow them on twitter. I think what happened is doing is really impressed me. I can see why reliance jio came in and wanted to bring you under that umbrella because of the value you confide okay voiced by nation. I'm brechin sell your host. The voice by podcast. I'm your each week and have been for just about four years. we're getting close to two hundred episodes. You can follow me on twitter at brechin zella and follow me on clubhouse over two and a ton of work there but really fun engaging with everybody and i'd love for listeners that this podcast to gauge with the clubhouse where we can have those live conversations or for doing some of these things will get accurate out in a couple couple months or so where we can have a short conversation and then at anybody listening can actually get up on stage as well and ask questions so this has been great. Thank you so much again accurate. I appreciate the taking us a couple of months to sort of get this organized. But i'm so glad we're able to set the Set time aside today. Show bit by back then. All right. Excellent thank you. So bites voiced by daesean. We'll be back next week.

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How To Increase Free Testosterone, Elevating Deep Sleep Levels, Ideal Estrogen Levels For Women & Much More (Special Q&A Episode!).

Ben Greenfield Fitness

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How To Increase Free Testosterone, Elevating Deep Sleep Levels, Ideal Estrogen Levels For Women & Much More (Special Q&A Episode!).

"Degree in physiology bio mechanics and human nutrition, I've spent the past two decades competing some of the most masochistic events on the planet from seal fit kikoko, sparred nego- g and the world's toughest mudder thirteen ironman triathlons. Brutal bow hunted venture races. Spearfishing plant foraging, free, diving bodybuilding and beyond. I combine this intense time in the trenches with a blend of ancestral, wisdom and modern science searched the globe for the world's top experts and performance that loss recovery hormones, brain beauty and Braun to deliver. You this podcast everything you need to know to live in adventures joyful and fulfilling life, my name is Ben greenfield enjoy the ride. Oh, well, Hello. I actually have a little bit of apology to make to you. Not enamored with the audio quality of today's podcast episode. But the content is frigging through the roof. This is actually part two of the precision medicine conference that I attended in spoke at down in Kentucky. And so I spoke I gave a ninety minute presentation on blood and biomarker interpretation. If you missed that podcast episode, you go listen to it's over at Ben greenfield, fitness dot com slash Kentucky. That's been Greenville fitness dot com slash keen to not spelt, the nice both Unie, even though I said Kentucky. But today's episode what we did the evening after I give the presentation was myself, and for the physician sat down and did a really comprehensive Q and A from the audience Bowie did the Cuna during dinner people are eating there was like civil war clanking the audio. Wasn't great. We weren't like hooked pilaff. Mike. It was just one camera with with an audio feed. But I thought what the heck the information? So interesting that I think I think you're gonna learn a lot. I mean, we we talk about nutrigenomics we talk about genetic testing the apple e gene for Alzheimer's. We man we win deep. And here's the thing though, whenever it's a podcast like this where you may have to turn up your volume or maybe make your make your ears a little bit more sensitive. This might not be willing to listen to all your Panin, Wayne the treadmill or working out the gym, maybe, you know, press pause and save this one for a walk or a time when you're able to focus a little bit more. Because I personally think the audio is not that great. But again, I wanted to give you this this information. So I hope you find this helpful and because it's going to be plenty of show notes links for you from this episode. You can go to Ben greet thinnest dot com slash Kentucky to Kentucky. 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Plummeted as the primary research study, basically said increases your chances for painter and many other diseases, but on reenact people a lot us be great and actually study even getting involved congress about problems with that studied. So this is a really complicated question. And correct me if I'm wrong without V H R T was dollars. Like, you know, here's your biomedical. There's there's some debate around room as well. But instead of giving you a vinyl rancher there what I recommend shortage vintage on here is the book estrogen matters is a great entire on the on the topic of listen there that's resource league. Want to two and a half hour version, the unity has great my guess, the authors of that that's a great summaries was due to be a little over now. So if you get into those art general loss is that if it does increase risk for some things like breast cancer are which just completely debatable say decreases, the risks or some of those things that's all even in. 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Radio meal tiny don't skip breakfast. Also, be circadian, Hugh. And then. Of than line and exercise and meal timing. Really some some the big east of that kind of like, green license or so. Tops of young kids the times, it's just not going to be optimal. I think it's important to people not freaking out about that. We do it kin the gate. The don't call extra fos by grace it Star Trek, monster drinks. I gotta go all. There are there's a little bit chemistry that goes into the night. She the time that you the up during that night should even just thinking about the half life of some things like copying would read copy a lot to exit a loss. I sleep with apple six hours hurting sleep the next night. So it's may not be like a common smoking may not be a common thing year. A little bit of nicotine gum, potentially. Instead of copy the half life of one or two our health for the Kito esters like about a bad, I sleep because my was up in act something ri- early on next after the copy may try to esters Earl of nicotine guts gush or on the next the same thing. But said of doing that, which is basically giving me it's ethnic Cise Kiev production, you know, getting stimulate. Just like you would get just so simple sorts of stuff in terms of in terms of how to manage it from a lifestyle standpoint to decrease the risk associated with the thing that I'm most convinced about is to not alter your diet and the rest of your your life outside of your outside. So if you are all of all night, whatever reason don't that. While you're up all night. So stay to your regularly scheduled of changing or or whatever is altering your your rhythm. Try to try to stick to your regular daily habits in terms of eating exercise and rescue sleep best. You can't outside of that time off. 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The Sports Reporters - Episode 361 - Taking a Step Back from the Tiger Woods Car Accident

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The Sports Reporters - Episode 361 - Taking a Step Back from the Tiger Woods Car Accident

"The ward winning journalists new york times. Best fillers no topic out of bounds. No opinion left unsaid. An institution for sports talk and information. This is the sports reporters. Here's mike lipa and bob ryan. I'm mike nubrik. Mlb dot com and the new york. Daily news. I am bob ryan of the boston globe and espn and we welcome you to the thursday edition of his four three quarters. Podcast our great friend and colleague Mitch albom off Embarrassing us once again. He set his orphanage in haiti Mitch's story unto himself a but he isn't haiti and he will be back next week. The story a is obvious obvious. Lead story for us. The lead story in sports The the shocking developments of early morning two days ago when we discovered the tiger woods had been in a very serious automobile accident and thank god he he survived and we'll survive but it's got a long road back and mike What was your first thought. Well my first thought was. We're getting another news bulletin on southern california like that could be very bad. The way we did with kobe bryant. I can remember that sunday afternoon. Bob and xactly pick a lives in southern california communist dead. Th there's a really bad story out here about kobe and then of course it turned out to be. It turned out to be true and then we saw the pictures of the car when we knew that he was on his way to the hospital. And he wasn't hadn't been killed in the crash and the car looked nascar. It looked like exactly like a nascar car after a some sort of wreckage daytona. And and so then you start to think okay. What the heck happened and now you can create a narrative now where you understand how this happened and only he knows how it happened. Okay now the there were no skid marks. So he's going. He's he's at a place on the road. Where you go downhill. And you pick up speed without even noticing that you're picking up speed our buddy gene. Excuse to be on the sports reporters. He drove that road yesterday and he said all of a sudden. You just going faster than you want to okay. Could it come out later. That he was on his phone question. Could what was he. Did something distracting anyway. Once he hit that median rail bob he was screwed. Okay and he by the grace of god. There wasn't a car coming in the other direction. The if if there's a car coming in the direction this is a completely different story that day yesterday today and then you know then. He hits the curb and then he did. The cars rolling down the hill. And i you heard jaws alive that it wasn't just life. Yeah now we see now we see and hear as we read the doctors reports. They are not as catastrophic all leg injury. So can and the terrible. And bob as soon as i start writing i wrote about hogan because it was in february of nineteen forty nine that he and valerie. When the car that got hit by the greyhound bus and if you go back and look at his. Litany of industry injuries. It's it's even more frightening than than tigers are mike. And i am exactly that. And i've seen the pictures of holden's on february second. Nineteen forty nine by greyhound. Bus flung himself across his wife To save her in so doing it turns out saved his own life Here's a list of the injury. Double fracture of the pelvis factured. collarbone left. Ankle fracture chipped ribs and near fatal blood clots. He spent fifty nine days in the hospital and was given the last right to the catholic church and and and this is a fifty nine days and of course the you know the the end of the story which just fifteen months later he can resume space on the tour and at h he was thirty eight years old. When this happened by the way and of course went on to win seven majors in the next three years and one of the most amazing runs in history at after a point when people worried whether he'd be able to walk is that parallel. Michael was the second thing that came to my mind. The first thing. That came to my mind when i heard was oh please god let not be any alcohol or drugs in. Yeah i mean because of his history you know and i know it was seven twelve in the morning but you know god i Anyway it. It's good to hear that it may not be as you said as catastrophic. I mean sixteen months after that accident. Ben hogan wins a us. Open at marian. Okay and i think one of his first wins back might have been in los angeles ironically enough. But but but here's the thing you're right. He's thirty seven thirty eight but he was thirty. Eight is a fair amount younger than tigers. Tiger's forty five years old so youth doesn't help you coming back from injuries like that but hogan did come back and have his greatest success as a professional golfer. Now what people don't know about hogan and why is this relevant. Because he was the greatest player of his time and tigers grits his time. Now there have been a car accident for both of them. Okay hogan would only play six or seven tournaments a year. Not by choice bob but because his body couldn't withstand walking seventy two holes. He had to wrap his legs before every single round. There's something i did not know about that accident. He is vision in his left. I was never quite the same ever again. So can you come back from an injury. Yes but would hogan have come back at the age of forty five. Probably not okay and again. These are not the concerns right now. The concerns are that this man can lead a normal life again that he can walk normally again that he can enjoy his children and that he can he can enjoy all of his time on this planet but as a sports fan. Bobby your first instinct is god. Could he could ever come back from that. We'll hogan did i'll be honest. I i immediately dismissed that one is unrealistic given the age factor in and and everything. Except you know you live the hold a sliver out. He's he's not like everybody else. He's he's a very rarefied category of of elite athletes. And we know his six by the way he was thirty. Six going on thirty seven. Th i just read back okay. Okay if there's one thing that we know we have we. You mean anybody else who's covers sports and has been privileged to make a living by by being around those people. Those people are different than us. There's them would not and office with a you and there's a difference between them and us a and and So you know. We've already defied. I mean i know i categorically declared he do what win another major give. Gimme a break. Stop it nonsense equality winston masters last year so you know it and of course then we could get the number twelve and tampa and talk about that. Who by the way. They're talking about a contract extension anyway. So they're different and and certainly you we. We have to allow a at least a remote possibility to get back in. Play this game at some competitive level again. There is a thing called the senior while. I don't know what they're calling it. Champions as they keep changing but There was a thing for the older fellows over fifty down the road if he would. And and you know it's not on dick's from yeah it's five. It's not yet identified at to do that anyway of when you look at this man. Okay and again. It's it's it's always hard that hard it's part of the are are gig to try to put some context and perspective when something like this happens and you know the the lead of my column was about. All of his problems started with another. Suv ride much shorter. Much less dangerous down. No down his driveway on thanksgiving night in two thousand and nine now and he had a fight with his wife he had he had. Nbn in system. He got into his car. And she chased him and bub-bubba he ends up sleeping in the seat. And there's a whole because of a five iron in the car wasn't and i remember saying to my son's night thanksgiving not. I said there's going to be a lot more we're gonna find out about. This is not normal okay. But here's here's the context the year before playing with a broken bone in his leg and a a knee. He wins his fourteenth major championship. At torrey pines in a playoff with rocco mediate. Okay bob if somebody had told you that day that he would not win his fifteenth major. For eleven years. You would have had that person drug tested okay. He wasn't just gonna pass. Jack nicklaus he was going to go blowing by jack nicklaus okay and then this happens and then the scandal happened. You know. it's funny. I was talking to my oldest son. I'm christopher yesterday. He said dad. The punishment for those infidelities never fit the crime. And he's a thousand bob. He's a thousand percent right. He was on the back page of the new york post. I've forgotten this. Christopher remembered for eleven straight days. Bob let me repeat that. And then so now his personal then now everything happens and then after he's started to come back even after he started to win golf tournaments then in in two thousand seventeen in jupiter. He's in the car and he's got this toxic mix of drugs in his system and he's incoherent when the cops get him out. He comes back from that then. He provides one of the greatest moments in the history of american sports at the two thousand and nineteen master's not just golf any sport. Okay and then. There are the images of him hugging his son. The way earl. Who's no day at. The beach. hugged him after his first masters win. And and bob. I said this yesterday did a bunch of tv shows and and it sounds like a cliche but tiger woods seemed happy at last actually being tiger woods because he never seem to be having fun when he was went in those fourteen. Can you would like to remind you that we are brought to you by the good people put gyco do you own or rent your home. 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Even watching him walk around and as much fun as he was clearly having with his son charlie. I thought he looked like he was walking. I thought he was in pain. I think he's in chronic pain. Because of his people have back issues. They know okay. Having a bad back as a friend of mine once said is like having a second job. Okay you organize your life and your day. So he even with nancy of the day he didn't look like himself on television. That call me. Dad you watch an interview with nance. He said he doesn't even sound like himself so i think he's in pain. He was looking at another. Mri he was looking at another comeback. And then bob again. What we know of his morning you can. You can figure this out. He was late for a shoot okay. He was leaving where he was. He was going to back to riviera. Ironically enough where he just give out the trophy to max homa on sunday afternoon and he's gonna shoot this series doing where it gives lessons to high profile athletes to joe breeze. Okay and everybody says where he was leaving from. It was at least an hour and he was late so he probably was driving fast. Okay and any who knows bob again. I'm not trying to speculate or blame him. Know he's you know he was the victim of a terrible car crash. He may have been talking to somebody or distracted or an animal could have run in front. We'll let you know he knows. Even though now we're starting to hear he doesn't even remember being in the crash. Okay and so so all of a sudden there's this terrible storm of events and he ends up in that car in that ruined car at the bottom of the hill. And bob i'm telling you karma isn't a real thing but this guy's had bad karma for a long time and then he seemed to bob. It was like trying to stop the ocean. The bad karma then. He turned it around. Anyone remember those pictures of the tour championship where they let the fans follow him up. The eighteenth fairway. It's one of the most emotional and dramatic pictures. It's like we used to see at the british open where they let the fans chase the eventual winner down the eighteenth fairway and it was beautiful taylor. My wife and i were out as soon as he won the tour championship that day. Okay we're out walking on our dogs and a guy. Now become a friend of ours. A neighbor who. I did not know at the time. He looks out the window and he sees me he kinda new on the sports reporters and he. He comes running out of his house. Not because of its me. Because it's me he needed to talk about this with somebody. He's a really good golfer and he goes. did you see digits. i saw it. He said wanted unbelievable and was the attitude of people all over the country and bobby before he wins the masters it turns out mike with that According to the authorities since january of two thousand and twenty there have been thirteen accidents at that site and four of them involve serious injury a month it averages out to a month and but you know it's funny it was a straightaway. It wasn't like a dead man's curve in the road but it's not like it was you know deadman's curve and every time i look i'm looking at these pictures again bob. Hope it's it's what earnhardt's car looked like at on. The day died the the fact that he's still alive the fact that there was no brain trauma that we know about is is remarkable. It was all to his lower legs as believe me. You don't wanna read too deeply on what they had to do to fix his legs. Also seatbelt save life again with too many people still don't get it. Don't want acknowledge it is your daily life and okay. We'll take a step back. 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Not so for the clothes from american giant and it feels good knowing. American giant supply chain is one hundred percent in the usa. They support hardworking people in local communities but making products that last get fifteen percent off your first order when you use promo code. Reporters at american dash giant dot com. That's fifteen percent off when you use the code. Reporters at american dash giant dot com. Bob nicholas was never the most important golfer. Okay there have been too important golfers. In the history of the sport who just change the profile of the sport. I was arnold palmer. Okay i arnold palmer came along. And all of a sudden people wanted to watch golf on television The great fracture kenyan legendary. My friend the legendary producer director. Cbs they said well. What what what explain what you did at that time. Because he changed the way golf. Look i put the camera on arnold and left it there. Okay that was the secret of his and then comes then. Along comes a tiger woods. It's like jimmy. Connors change the profile tennis back in one thousand nine hundred eighties seventies and magic. And larry change the. They weren't the greatest players of all time but they elevated their sport in a way so arnold elevated at went along and jack had the greatest career ever then along. Comes this kid this kid and bob if you had designed if you created a character for a movie about somebody okay. Let's make a mixed race you know. Let's give him this sort of back story. And then let's have a go down to augusta and win his first majors by nine thousand strokes and then do it again at pebble and then do it again. It's an andrews so it's not like he was going to these tomato tomato canned courses and running away from the world saint andrews pebble beach augusta. I was at the pebble beach. One on I was at several of them. But i was at that one the just the idea of i can remember looking everyday looking up at the board in all black except for one guy who's any wins. Fifteen strikes against quotas coffers in the world at legendary course that that that achievement is just still sticks in. You know i'm sure just like you You had the obvious assumption circa two thousand eight that you would be there to see him. Break jack's record we. I assume that's going to be wherever it was going to be. I knew us. I'll be there and be great last the first major okay and we're going to talk a lot about tiger woods. Because he has his of in the last whatever thirty five years in american sports there was michael. There was tiger. There was lebron. There was serena and there's tom brady. I don't think there's anybody else. We need to add to that list of my head. no okay. I wish there was a baseball player. But there was okay. So here's the here's the best thing. Okay the masters that he ends up when he's eighteen under par second-place is six under par. Okay wins by twelve. He shoots forty on the front nine on thursday. He starts that with a forty okay from there on. He plays twenty two under par and tom. Kite who second had a great line that year. He said i won the first flight championship this a championship fight in the club. Then there's the first flight he did really good. I want first flight. And and then he was off and then he was off and again from nineteen ninety seven through june father's day of two thousand and eight. He wins fourteen major championships okay. He has the tiger slam which is as valid to me as any grand slam. That bobby jones of them were amateurs that he is. A jack had eighteen. Nobody will ever get to eighteen ever again. Never never never never never. It's not going to be like tennis. there's going to be a federal dollar joke of it's coming along okay. Tigers you see now. Bobby how hard it is. I talked about this. The data party. Remember how hard it is to do what he did to do what he did. I mean mcelroy kapka speed. I think they've won eleven combined. I may be off on my map. I don't think i am okay. And he's got fifty one guy's got fifteen and then you factor in how many kids he brought to gulf. How many fans he brought to go all these kids tournaments all they talk about is how yeah. I grew up wanting to be tiger woods. I want to play with tiger woods. Touched on without saying it. I think in in what fascinates me about the nature of golf. A professional golf is how many great players there are worldwide. How many people that that that can play this game an extraordinarily high level therefore how hard Wanting always amuses me. I always bristle about the favourite to win this master's favorite to win this tournament. I mean the kick it could be one of five hundred guys and we all you know the tournament fields are hundred and whatever it could be anybody as a rule because there's so many there's such a thin margin of error on a given day over two four seventy two holes of how many people are kip. And therefore what. I'm getting at that being the case. And i think they've never been more good golfers at one time in history. The new are now because it's become so internationalized in five continents worth of good golfers were great golfers. Is that what he was able to do in the midst of this competition anew as you've already many times when there wasn't a rival no there wasn't that jack jack arnold thing going on but there were all kinds of furry capable people you know that so and he towered over the field to the extent he did for that period of time And and you know everything was different about him. He never how would the numbers are and he everybody else. Everybody else would routinely or or more than you know a little bit miss. A cut member tiger never missed a stays. Never bobby you're one hundred percent right and we've talked and we talked about it on the show. I i've written about it. There was nothing more dramatic in sports to me whether he ended up winning the tournament or not to see tiger grinding to make cut late on a friday afternoon when everything that had made him great. Okay when he's only competing against himself and his own standards and if he had to birdie eighteen he'd birdie eighteen if he had to birdie th two of the last three he birdied but by god he he golf on saturday absolutely. I mean i I doubt that's what that that's the thing that i found the fascinated me. Obviously winning two major was meeting on that but the idea everybody else and the guys to names of the times. Vj ernie fill all an annex crop. That came up and there was a period of time when there was no next quantum. I wonder what next good new american young golfer who is going to be coming from at some point about a dozen years ago anyway. They all missed the tiger where it was was stopped the presses news when he finally did. Well here's he and again it and then and then there was one other box the gut. Check bob at the nineteen masters. He came from behind on sunday to win a major which you think he would have done by accident. And i just went back and looked at the final leaderboard for that particular masters as tiger wins it at. Let's see hold. Is it any forty three right to. He's going to turn forty three in december okay. So he's forty two years old okay first of all. He was behind going into last and look at the kids. That second place tie ready. Dustin johnson brooks kepco zander sharply. Okay in third place. Jason day tony fee. Now so he you know again. Jack did something. That was remarkable that. I wish tiger had more great opponents. Okay i do because maybe it would have pushed him to win. Even more jack came on. He beat arnold in his prime. Okay then he come then the kids come along and he beats player in his prime and then he beats miller and weiss cough and watson in their prime he he goes toe to toe with trevino and then in eighty six. He has his moment. The way tiger had his moment in two thousand nineteen and he takes on the world again. Any wins one more masters. I wish i wish there had been a guy. I wish there had bob. I wish there had been one sunday in a major were. It was him against you. Know him and ville in the last group going toe-to-toe the way watson and nicholas did at turnberry in nineteen seventy seven. Where i i was fortunate and blessed enough to see every shot both of them hit for the last thirty six holes. Because you didn't have to go watch anybody else on the golf which which is very often the problem with covering golf you drive yourself nuts my place at the right time in half the time of more than half the time the answer is no but when you have when you have that eliminated it can make your life more enjoyable. I envy you for that. Mike asai in view for having been at lake placid which i was not and We've passed on verse we this week but Yeah that's that's a great. That's a great to have you cannot. Michael was a global figure. Magic and larry were but they weren't. Michael was a global figure. Okay tiger became a global figure. I mean we didn't quite have the logo way we did with with with air jordan. Okay but tiger was bob. I'm telling you there's a mythical torch that gets passed you know it does okay. Michael didn't get called a press conference and passing the torch tiger. But that's what happened okay. And then tiger leaves the stage and it's lebron and you know brady was always there. And through it all serena kept winning and winning and winning but for male athletes. Okay the trinity in the last twenty. Five thirty years is michael tigar to lebron and then tiger comes back and wins that masters and for one more weekend. He's back to being the greatest star in the world. Well it's There's no no questioning his his Stature and then again the the kenya even begin to discuss the the outsize importance. He has to the to the to black community. And and you know that we you and i can't even begin to feel and how you know. What would it mean to you for all three of them. But but you know it tiger having chosen a game that that was not one you'd normally associate with an african american You know that hadn't had out that resonance that was different than the other. The other two african married. We didn't play in the master. To what nineteen seventy five was. Charlie sifford funny was funny. Allowed him to elder the elder. Thank you right choice if it was better players in a trailblazer lee elder tremendous trailblazer by the way reminded that we're sponsored by honey if you shop online and who doesn't right now you always see that little promo code. Feel the checkout makes you wonder if you could be getting at an even better price while now thanks to a new browser extension called honey you can find out. Honey supports over thirty thousand stores online. Chances are your favorites are among them just shop like you normally do and when you check out the honey button drops down. Click apply coupons and seconds later. If there's a discount available you see your savings right away. I save twenty five dollars on my new headphones so long overdue purchased by the way and my wife saved at every site. She shops at honey has found that it's over. Seventeen million members have had over two billion dollars in savings. 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One thing that struck me over the years that there are plenty of people want to claim him as a friend. Which i like the idea even there was certain aloofness that. We've you know that you know a from the evidence or not evidence but you know suspicious suspected by the outside A lot of guys over the years of one but that was a big one to me. given then again remember who his first great friend was a with a big age. Difference member marco mira macabre and so he's been on both sides of it now and and the thing is you know it's so funny the that cars have informed his his life story so much over. The it's really it's amazing. It is a party that says there's a party that says you know. Get a driver. you know. it's but i it can't because of his past. You always wonder what caused this accident. And now i just think it might have been. He was doing what we have all done behind the wheel of a car which was rushing to get someplace even though you always think they probably would have waited for tiger woods. You know you've if he'd been a half hour late or even an hour late but he probably didn't wanna keep drew brees and everybody waiting and so this happens and again is is terrible is. This story is bob. It's it's the happy ending to it is. He is still alive and hopefully he will walk normally again. And maybe in this crazy pie in the sky scenario that someday you know he will be. We will see him playing competitive golf again. I do. I think so. No but i don't think anybody on this planet on february a february of one thousand nine hundred nine ever thought that ben hogan would play golf again and and then it was bob four years later with hogan and again you have to keep coming back to hogan because it's the only Reference point we have in this particular sport for years later he wins three three four grand slam tournaments and the only reason he didn't get to go for the mythical is because the pga overlapped with the the british open where he went to carnoustie he played one british open talking about a mike draw bob. He played one british open in his life the nineteen fifty-three open at carnoustie wins. It never went back the we ice. Yes yes i know. It's is not too but But that was i. I'm not making it up. They obviously i drew that parallel immediately. you know we and we have talked about you may or lose to the hogan situation doing over the year so on this podcast and and so it stuck in my mind but well it was a big guy. I really like on the golf channel and a golf nerd. I love listening to brando. Sham blake but he this long before this he referred to tigers come concluded with the masters is the greatest golf comeback of all time. And i kept saying well. It's not no it's not go back and look at hogan's car. it's it's a magnificent comeback. It was a great story. The country cheered the world chaired. Okay but hogan i'll tell you one great hogan story from carnegie sedan jenkins told me because he was he was he was Ben hogan's keeler. Which was the chronicler bobby jones. Okay so the in those days those days they played thirty six as they still did the the us open in those days and so he has his caddie legendary scotch caddy named sessoms. Okay and in the morning round. And i forget the whole might have been the tenth but It's it doesn't matter hogan of course splits the fairway Sessile tim's handsome a four iron ben knox in on a fifteen feet two putts for par the play the afternoon round and cogan being hogan of course he hits his drive almost in the same place okay. He reaches into his bag reaches into his bag for his four iron. Sessile tim says hand is covering the fire and baba's you know ben was not exactly the life of the party. Okay so he puts the hogan cop stare on sessile tim's and he says the following it was a four iron this morning and sessile. Tim says i but the wind is changed. Its a three iron now. Hogan reluctantly takes a three iron takes his practicing as he's addressing the ball z's addressing the ball. He looks up at sessile and says the following you better be right and then according to and tried to hit the hardest part of all time to prove him wrong knocks it on. The green makes part goes on to win the tournament my incorrect my correct or incorrect. That he was a known exponent of the one iron someone in that year a was dispute about whether he actually hit the famous one iron The open that year but yeah he yeah he hit knowing and oh no. Please don't get me started. On hogan i i. That's a whole. That's because he bob. He had an extra spike in one of his golf shoes. Okay he had an extra spike because he felt it balanced him off better. I the reason. I don't wear a golf club. I've never worn golf club. Because ben hogan i yeah yeah. All of my guys are globalist. A love corey pavement. Because he was. Little couples doesn't wear gloves hogan didn't wear glove and and oh no he was a. I've got a book on order right now. Five lessons which is the most famous golf book of a for a god away folks. Ben hogan was five. Eight hundred fifty. Maybe i'm just and again he. He came back and played glorious golf. I think it was a forget. How oldie was memory played. This really shot a sixty six at the masters when he was really old and it was you know he couldn't pot. And that's the other thing. Bob he couldn't putt lick. He could not bring the putter back. That's how bad his hips were. He hogan famously thought or hoped putty would count for less than a full shot. You know he. His he battled he battled putting demons his his whole career but attended the line. You can draw is for all of the power. The tiger showed when he was a kid. Okay he became a brilliant shotmaker. He i think before this injury. Even when he wasn't winning. Bob he's the greatest iron player in the world and and when you can put him on a course where length against the young guns doesn't matter as much okay. Member the The the british open. Where was it a hundred. You pronounce it. Yeah horlick he. I think we had one driver when the tournament was overlooked. Said nick faldo said. Can i have your driver. You didn't use it this week to my wheelhouse now. Michael was there the whole thing driver. Andy at one. Drive of the whole. I believe one driver. And seventy two holes He he he he. He basically embarrassed field Equipped the famous last A sunday wh when when sir joe up looking like a giant canary and this guy was shallow but speaking of sergio i was also privileged to be at the at the pga when he made that after. That long drought. Mike between major. one too. If you remember two years in a ninety nine at an in chicago medina. And i and i was there for that without they'll staredown which sergio but anyway Before we continue and shift gears to another sport eventually Remind you that we are brought to you by geico. Do you own or rent your home. Do and i bet it can be hard work. You know what's easy. Bundling policies with geico geico makes it easy to bundle your homeowner's or renter's insurance along with your auto policy. It's a good thing too because you already have so much to do around your home. Go to geico dot com. Get a quote and see how much you could save. Its geico easy. Visit dot com today. That's geico dot com shifting gears today. But bob okay. He's won the masters. Okay and i had never seen him play golf in person and i went down to the open in a congressional in washington to specifically watch this guy play golf. I wasn't going to cover the open. That year. I took the shut down. I went over to congressional and there is and bob i can tell you this okay i can tell you with great certainty. The ball sounded different office. I'm telling you talked about some some homerun hitters. Yeah it's it's it's like you know when mike. Piazza was playing for the mets. Bobby valentine always said the sound off. His bed is different from the sound. I hear anybody else back. It was like that okay. And then you combine the touchy showed okay. And the fact that he was exactly like jack in this way literally for ten years. Bob he made every putty and make you know. Jack did the same thing. Jack always said he didn't bring the putter back until he pictured himself holing. The putt tiger was the same way. And then bob now we gotta talk about the moments okay. The the chip shot at sixteen. The chip shot at sixteen in augusta which is first of all time greatest golf ball out of all the title of golf all hung on but he provided moments like that. The putty makes to force to member. The putty made against rocco. I'm late eighteen to force the playoff. And i think dan hicks said something. Like did you ever have a doubt. And it was he gave you. That's what guys like him do okay. They don't just give you the body of work they don't just give you the prize money they don't just give you all the tournaments he won and now it looks like he will never pass. Sam snead okay. They give you moments. I always say this to kids. Bob when i go around and talk about the books i support you. If you see something you know this better than i do. If you see something great in sports you don't need to see it replayed on sportscenter one hundred times you don't need to have it on some kind of cassette or in your met it is burned into your memory and an into your heart and you can recreate it for people that those are the moments that tiger woods gave you and it was all part of of of the magic of his brand. Well i don't know how many of them. I saw the majors. But that's about six or seven. i think. Yeah yeah. I know i did. In a sense. They mostly british opens bomb. No it was a pablo at pebble at the british. At the peach. You just kinda sorta a wandering around. The gulf beat at that point was my story you know. Because that was in the first thing. I remember most other than tiger dominance the tribute to paint store that the tragedy and they had that salute to him before the first Around hitting the balls all out onto the under the water very touching But i remember this On the eighteenth home tiger was dominated. He his goal. Mike as you remember it was to play a bogey lower. Seventy two he was going to win the tournament but secondary goal was no bogeys. And so i'm not the eighteenth hole about down to seventy five yards down the fairway with the people and tiger steps up to the t. and people are anxious. They want to see a booming drive right. They want and they see the gleam of the iron in crowd wound. Mike i swear to god. The people groaned. No you know. He's he's gonna hit an iron you know. They wanted to him. The they want him to blast one and of course he parse the whole beef playing it safe he wanted. He was determined not to have a bogey in that in that tournament. But So that's but i was i. I was a senior andrus. A second time. In two thousand five because he wins by eight in two thousand and and he did not lead after the first round that year by the way he was his stroke off the lead in the first round that year and then he puts up fast. Sixty seven sixty six sixty seven sixty nine. He ends up nineteen under par. And he beats. Elle's thomas bjorn by eight shots and and and and it was again that trifecta way. He won by what he wanted. He won by twelve at augusta. He won by eight at saint andrews. So now we're up to twenty. And then what did. He went by at pebble. Oh fifteen okay. Think about this bob. Whatever bobby whatever list you make of the three most famous golf courses in the world. He won majors on them. Wait for bob. By an average victory total of a dozen one by thirty five shots. That's that's tiger woods. That's why this was okay. Well we'll get to lebron and the lakers their in a world of trouble to anti but we'll get we'll get to them monday. This was a day to talk about tiger woods. And if you're wondering why this was such a big deal this week and maybe you haven't followed the the minutiae of his career. The great and small of his career. The way bob. And i have been lucky to. This is why this this is why he is a unique figure in his sport. He is one of the great figures in american sport. It doesn't mean you have to love him. It doesn't mean you have to approve of everything you've found out about him but you must respect what this guy did and and until things got sideways for him on that thanksgiving night bob. We agree he he would have won my opinion even with the injuries in the back problems to come he would have won at least twenty majors and maybe more than that totally agree and and and so we wish him all the best. We wish him a recovery that we know will be painful but hopefully will be ultimately successful. And at the very least bob we hope that tiger is out walking. The golf course when when charlie woods becomes whatever. He's having a caddying for charlie. That's that's what. I want to see adding for charlie. All right listen. It's time for our parting shots. This week's show brought to you honey. If you don't already have honey you could be missing out on free savings. Get honey for free at join. Honey dot com slash reporters. That's join honey dot com slash reporters. Bob will lead off. And probably as i am changed the subject to d eight or not two d it that sadly is an open question for major league baseball. The idea that the league's would still have different. Playing rules is an absolute absurdity. Now as i understand it. The players association won't sign off on universal d. h. at the present time in the used their approval as a bargaining chip in the next. Cbs negotiations which take place at the end of the coming season. The da tissue is the only factor separating the two major leagues and is beyond dispute. Only a few die hard romantics which to see pitchers embarrass themselves with a baton. Their hands or worse yet injured themselves if they wind up running a basis. Meanwhile teams need to make roster decisions based on having at the or not. Hello mets you know. In the end there will be a permanent h. So let's just do it and end the nonsense. My first job is mr ryan knows in newspapers was covering the nba in the playoffs. That first year ryan. I would go to a different city every night and it was as much fun as i have ever had in this business when madison square garden rose up again in the nineties and a knicks ticket was once again. The hottest in town i had a ringside seat and i mean a ringside seat for all of it. I love pro basketball and for all the talent in the game right now. I think this season is a mess. It doesn't mean. I don't love watching lebron or steph or luca but there are too many games. They're just are both four long. Everybody down the stretch when we playing a game every other night and anybody who thinks that kinda grind will improve the quality of play. Please send up a flare. You know why they should have cancelled the all star game to give those stars. I'm talking about the extra rest. They need thank you for listening mitchell. Be back from haiti on monday. i hope you enjoyed this conversation. I i think if you listen to this podcast and her bob knight today you not only know our passion for golf you you know. We appreciate the things that we have both had ringside seats to in our career. Please continue to support our podcast. Subscribe go to all the places where you find the spotify stitcher any place you get your podcast There's a reason why we put the band back together and today days like today are one from pal bob ryan and mike lupaka. We'll talk to you on monday.

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Episode 302: Dungeons and Dragons in the snow

Making It With Jimmy Diresta, Bob Clagett and David Picciuto

1:02:23 hr | Last week

Episode 302: Dungeons and Dragons in the snow

"For the first time in. I don't know as long as i can remember. I woke up before anybody else in my house. I got a cup of coffee. No set at the table and read in total silence for like thirty minutes. It was crazy. And i know that like you guys are may not used to having kids wake up before you and make a lot of noise in the house but it. It's like a totally different morning experience. Oh yeah i want to wake up man. It was awesome anyway. It always makes me nervous. Like am i the chosen one. I got to make sure that. I'm actually away. Glassman unearth and then everybody else is. Okay i kinda like okay okay. Okay toilets plus art cohen. Are you reading anything interesting No it's a collection of a bunch of different stuff. I do a little little bible every morning and a little bit of business stuff every morning and little bit of just like fiction every morning and you know try spread it around a little bit. I recently got to daryl's eve's book Called the youtube formula and he. He's one of those youtube channel guys. Who showed you how to do. Or whatever and a his book. And i don't read a lot of physical books without pitchers very often and so I mean usually. I'm listening to audio books. Because they can play while. I'm in the car the background and i must have to force myself to like. I'm just gonna do five pages today. And then i can go on. Do whatever i want because it takes your full concentration like you can't you can't check your phone and do other things and i've i've lost at seemed to have lost that school of just focusing on one thing. I'm trying really hard to get back to reading like a physical book it and it is. It's really difficult for me. I've gotten so used to the audiobook thing with running in. When i'm running i can completely focus on what i'm listening to because there's like the rest of it's mindless you know it's like i have the same path that are on octa. Worry about where i'm going or we. It's a relatively small town. I don't have to worry about a lot traffic or buses or anything like that. So i can really pay attention and then to try switch over to sit down with a physical book is a challenge of a very hard time reading like so many other things that could be doing if i could read and like my hands are separate from me. Making things doing stuff. You're anti hands. My little hands could be making little tiny models only read. the well. audiobook thing is great for that. I mean that's why. I really started listening to him. I found that. I have a lot harder. Time even listening to fiction these days though like i. I really enjoyed the kind of anything more thought provoking or business oriented or something. That kinda is getting me toward a goal like i can listen to fix the you want. Wanna hear something funny. I absolutely i got into this thing. Years ago. By ten twelve years ago or absolute. Can't listen to anything or watch anything that's up. That's why if you guys noticed. They never go to movies. And i really just documentaries and things about real things and i remember as a kid being confused over nonfiction and fiction and like talk into the librarian when i was first a second runway. Wait this book's about things that really didn't happen and i remember that as a kid like analyzing is like. Yeah we'll Fiction that's made up stories like the wizard of oz in this interesting and then like from that point on a slowly moved away from being interested in things that actually didn't happen. It's a weird thing it's a it's when people start to tell me a story. I'll always be wait. Is this a real thing or is this not real. Because i need to know how much energy to give it in my brain a really happen. That means it can possibly happen to mate. Okay let me pay attention and when someone telling me some fantasy thing. I'm just like wait. This didn't happen and the my brain immediately starts thinking of what i need to build that day crazy interesting so you i mean do not enjoy any any type of like made up story in whether it's written or movies or anything denied it. Certainly i certainly can you know i mean there are moments mandela. Try to watch a movie in the two of us like get like five minutes in like you wanna watch crime drama l. Let's go to france file so we just can't get hooked. It's crazy it's so funny. I like the older. I get the the less opportunity. There is to mediate hooked. And i'll hear about a story or i'll hear about a movie that's really cool and put it on my to do list in. It never gets to done. But it's when. I fine documentaries on netflix and i just flick around. I mean that's really what i'm attracted to most like. Everyone talks about the certain tv series. In this nat- night i try to watch. Somebody just just didn't happen. So i don't know i'm watching us. It's just it's not really rational i mean. Of course they enjoy the wizard of oz and willie wonka as a kid step stores so as a criteria so when i'm like doing long walks exercising something i'm obviously i was listening to some sort of theory or philosophy or technical stuff interesting now. I was going to save this until the end to my my pick. But i'll go ahead and talk about it. 'cause just randomly came up. We have no plan by the way anybody that's listening. We have not figured land so this was not intentional but The podcast not questions with destin and matt It's an excellent podcast. But this most recent one is all about stories and so like the two of them are are very similar but also very different. A lot of ways. Dozens very science engineering oriented matt's very humanities history literature or ended and so they have a different way to come at a lot of similar things right so they start talking about stories. Started talking about disneyworld in that turned into movies and stories and stuff in the way that the two of them view stories is very very different. Matt sees them as like you know a really important and a great way to get one idea from one person to another without it being so like cut and dry. Here's just the knowledge transfer. You know it's a way that you can model an idea where personality or a trade or a whatever to someone else and very dislike stories are for escapism. That's why i enjoy him. Because it's out of this world. It's out of my daily normal. I can relate to that can relate to that. I mean i said i'm not like anti story. I mean seraing is some of the classic movies godfather. All this stuff is kinda made up. But it's just lately. I notice my attention. Span is just it. It's not really a conscious thing. It's just like i start waning on my way. And he had to stop. Why losing inches. this is. Just listen to someone tell you the dream like all right. Maybe there's something in the story that i could take away. Maybe there is some. Yeah you know philosophy that could apply to my regular live. So i try that so seeing the way that you know those people act differently towards them made me realize that that was even a thing like i just never considered thought everybody thought of stories as stories but now when you say that i'm like oh well okay you think of stories as something something different than i do. That's really cool and never would have considered that before and they're not as important to you as they are to me or to other people and which is also totally cool and you know just like a different way to look at them anyway. It's a really good episode that somebody anybody who's interested in that conversation should definitely go. Listen to i might go because those guys are on my list that listen every now and again but I don't want to sound like a story snob. It's just. I tend to realize like growing up. I was always history. Like i was i was. I wasn't a great student. Because i was always in my head playing around during my book but when i was in history i was always very intrigued by american history european history of the world wars and the sequence of events and i always said to my teachers. I e what i need what i need and actually an old ex girlfriend got got us me when we were together and still. Haven't what i need is a history timeline. I need to know what was happening at the same time. I needed that in my. You know my visual brain. I needed to see i have booklets called histories time line. You opened up. And it's like the beginning of like what we know is the beginning of history of human main human beings and then it goes through and it just tells you what was going on all around the world at the same exact time and for me. That's like that site type of concrete evidence that i need and i said this to you guys before when every time taylor would put on you know dungeons and dragons in the snow. Fit the name of the show crowd of thorns. That's a roach thrown. Every time taylor put that on at. I would just be like what what. Where is this in history. because there's like middle ages mixed up with wizardry in is earth. Is this earth. What was funny. When i watched planet of the apes as a little kid and then all of a sudden i can still like a little kind of half-science fiction in have science-fiction out like i don't really okay. This these humanoid orissa's of gays pretty scary and then when charlton heston found the statue of liberty on the beach spoiler. God this bull blew. My mind is a little kid. 'cause it made me think. Wow there's like a future that is so far in the future that like what we know now is just disregarded as the ancient history and that blew my mind then like that made me like. That's kinda like that. The me that was like a moment of like when you when you fall in dream in your wake up like okay. This isn't real. But i could see how this could be real silly so that that moment right there were you head. That like whoa. That was a bad thing for you. No no it was like it. Brought me into the story. Because i was like okay. Fantasy science fiction. What's going on here. Charlton heston was him. He's walking on the beach and then all of a sudden he finds earth new york. Where i where was grew up and we had visited as a kid. We visited statue of liberty so to me it was like it blew my mind that like this. Fantasy story is rooted in reality in a way. I mean obviously. It wasn't but when so the statue of liberty in that like blew my mind. Yeah and then. I gave up on stories. Just kidding no no. I don't know. I just. I just needed and the older i get the more fact based information i seem to need and like i said i occasionally i do watch a story. That's not real. But i just find myself less and less attractive to. That's all interesting ended where you land on stories. I mean i'm right in between so I like listening to nonfiction. 'cause i enjoy learning things i collect books you know. Nine percent of them are nonfiction. How to lots of pitchers inspirational type. Books. I do have a i have. Most of covina gets books because i'm a huge kurt vonnegut van as well When it comes to movies i. I tend to like movies. That are more real Not so much fantasy except for things that have except for movies that i watch when i was a kid like the princess bride as it's one of my all time favorites I do like the Episode four five six of star. Wars right is at the center for three five mixed And i really enjoy them. But these days i don't get into that stuff so much 'cause i have a connection to it And then something. I've noticed recently. Is we usually only lot watch like one or two shows at a time and it's just like we'll watch one episode of particular show During dinner after dinner and so we're always trying to find a new show to watch and that new show doesn't have a likable character. We move on real quick like ap bio it takes place in toledo and there's lots of toledo references in their off. We're gonna love this. It's so cool. It's got the dude from it's always sunny. It's going to be great but nobody in that show is likable. Because everybody's a everybody's a bad guy in not necessarily a bad guy but nobody's likeable and we've done this a couple times for like we'll get into man everybody's like the wire we got four or five episodes into the wire on my unlike the show. Nobody's nobody's and what he's connecting with me. So i'm super picky. It might just because. I'm super snobby. But yeah like mix of fiction and nonfiction. I love comedies though. If it makes me laugh it'll keep me engaged. Even if obviously completely made up so i guess i like i like real real stories in comedy. So that's going to be on my tend to profile. Anybody out there signaling. I think there's there's like a definitely a crossover there of things that you guys don't like that i also don't like i prefer fiction. That is one step out of reality at least enough to where it's really obvious like i don't watch crime dramas even if they're fake because there it's just like if that terribleness could happen in the real world and really mean there's enough already interested in that and like we tried to watch a Parenthood if you as a result of show parenthood it's a really sweet show about an extended family multiple generations of a family and just how they interact and whatever and it's you know it's family stuff but it's so family stuff that every two or three episodes. I find myself on the verge of tears like this is to real. Like i don't wanna think about my parents and getting in this disease or that disease or somebody dying in a car wreck and like i just as to close you know so. There's certain stuff like that that even it's really good and i appreciate the storytelling in the way it's filmed in the it's acted and all that type of stuff it's like i didn't want to spend my time there. I'd rather spend my time in something. Fantastical something out there. That is a step out of reality. That i can just enjoy for what it is and even if it has some of the same i guess in it or whatever it just. It's not as close to home or something. I dunno. anyway. I went down a really Long path. I do watch so. There are certain movies that i watch over and over and over again because i need something in the background. I don't know why. I need something playing in the background when i'm in the shopper. Just doing stuff at so You know like back to the future. I've probably watched Fifty times only. Because i know it so well and i wanted to play in the background while doing things and then documentaries I watch a lot. 'cause it's a great background thing and netflix's makes them incredible documentaries and so does hbo so I watch a lot of them. 'cause i don't really have to pay attention. It can just be something. Like i need to take two minute break from what i'm doing here. I'll just look at the tv and see what's going on. Google well speaking of the shop where he has been doing. You've been working on. I have been building a set of high-end speakers for the living room I have built speakers in the past. And i have said in those videos that you know this is not about. Science is not about audio files. This is not about just building speakers so we can to have fun. We don't really care about sizes and things like that this time we are and Yeah and all the science of the of the audio and everything a little bit sober. It's a kit that i got from. It's a place called create astound solutions or see us audio. And they sell high end speakers like really pricey speakers and you can buy their finished speakers which are ready to go you. You can buy their kits with the cabinet or the enclosures that you can go up yourself. And then finish them or you can buy the components. Make the cabinet yourself. And i got the components and following their plans. Pretty much to t and then it's gonna under break it up into two videos one of the speaker build and it's gonna be more technical about why things are the way they are and why you need to look out for this and then i'm going to do the video of worse in or i finish it and that's just going to be all about creativity and try to try to give them a good. Wow factor also breaking up in the two videos. Because i don't know what the finish line is going to be yet. Oh yeah i mean. Is that something you're gonna plan ahead or you just going to wait till you get it and then like look get it together and look at the finished. Object aside i i i know i want to have i want to have the finish. Look now in my head at least They have to wolford's and there was a twitter in the middle. So they're gonna tom but they need a stand so whatever i do is as far as the skim which it will probably be a would acrylic mixture. There's going to be a stand built into so i i've been trying to force myself to not look at other speakers for inspiration and try to find inspiration for so But the the idea hasn't hit me just yet And dan it has like. Hey i'll send you some some things that will be inspiration on my dan. Don't send me anything. I want to come up with the idea. I don't want. I don't want outside influence. I wanted to be like my my thing and it's kind of a selfish thing. I i want the idea. Come from within me so i told danton nat semi inspiration. Do these have a purpose in in your house. Like these made for a specific rumors. Specific thing or you something you wanted to do They're gonna go on my living room so we have Given like vintage decent stereo receiver. And i've got a high end Turntable and the speakers that i have now are like seventy s speakers the big cabinets at sit on the floor and they got the foam fronts on there and the dog is When he was a puppy he chewed them up and they they just need to be replaced and really need to get up off the floor. So they're not getting enough vibration off the floor so Yeah i've always kinda wanted high end speakers. Although i'm not an audio file in my hearing is shot from net wearing hearing protection while playing in bands at the music i listened to his pretty low fi to begin with so But it's it's more about the. I don't know it's just more about like this is a gift to myself because i appreciate music and audio you know so. Yeah and i think my guitar recently. Was that same thing it was like. I'm not a very good guitar player. I don't really need a another guitar. I have several. I don't need another. I don't play very often. I don't need another guitar but it was like you know. I'm going to spend the time just to make thing that i wanted to have been really need it. I haven't really played it much at all. But i don't think it's a bad thing to do but you doing i been. I just had to write a check to forklift repairman. So that's why. I stepped away for second errands on his way to get it. We had a forklift guy. Come coming just do mobile service What am i to. I started working on the being close trailer. this week. We spoke about last week. I kind of blew a completely often saturday. A really started thinking about it. I started looking at the drawings. And i pulled the trailer out saturday. Set it up on. Blocks took the wheels off. Because apparently i need to be worried. That someone's going to steal it. No matter where i leave it so i removed the wheels on chocks. I leveled it. So i'm going to build the enclosure on top of that. First thing i did yesterday was a extended the frame out past you know right up to the wheel wells so the entire footprint of the trailer including the wheels will be underneath the cabin. And today i'm going to chalk out the profile of the actual thing on the floor based on the designer's drawings must stop building the perimeter and making some decisions on exactly how in had Take care of various tasks sheet metal aluminum and all that stuff. So it's going to be interesting. I keep reminding myself that this is ab- just making a box and that takes away the pain and suffering of like what did i get myself into and i just say all making is a box. The corners might be rounded going to be a hole in the box of the hinge device. That opens gonna make sure that device door or window and jeff and i the the client keeps taking things away from me to do which is great. Because he's like. I was going to be all ribbed and painted gray and the ribbing takes weeks to get you gotta order special order like ten pieces and then we'll just make it smooth sticker the whole thing and then i don't need to worry about a color because the whole thing wrapped so yeah so i'm just working out the details. That definitely a challenge. But the more i add one little thing to i keep reminding myself. Okay if i just get the flanges on deck wider. Today i'm going to be good in mentally. Take a break today. If i draw out a profile on the floor where the wheel well. Isn't everything in the curves and stuff. I'm good then. I could start putting the pieces and so i have to do this for my own mental. I have to break it down into small bite size pieces and then solely those pieces begin to build the whole thing altogether. So that's that's what. I've been working on mentally physically and also. The shop is coming along fairly quickly if you noticed some by instagram. The guys doing a great job but heard a couple of local guys appear. Mike's jeff and brian great job rebuilding out the inside. The take a lot of pride in it really digging into all the details and patrick reynolds electronics is doing so many loose ends is so much more to do still. He's amazing. in. You know the television projects come into town. We just got the toilet truck delivered yesterday. A giant toilet truck has five stalls each side joked that said it's it's it's like a man is like a man and a woman i said the williams said if you go on that side you come out outside you come out him a girl. If you go girl side you come out the boy side you come out and play since like a stop. Ellie snitch machine. So that's in my backyard. Now that'll be there till the end of july interesting by grass is going to be destroyed and we got a giant generator delivered yesterday. So it's it's really actually happening itself. You poke a hole in the bottom of that truck. Then your grass won't be destroyed when you move the truck it'll be like supergrass under the. Yeah yeah so be doing like last minute things because the whole yard is going to be covered with people and things and stuff. So we've been dislike resetting the gravel and removing a couple of dead trees Landscape guzman gone. it's it's been a bit. It's been a bit of a world. When and i'm kind of last minute today after the podcast an hour or two later i'm gonna go pick a new tool that i bought from a local guy. I'm trying to outfit a lot of vintage stuff. So i'm going to get a new chopping bandsaw. But it's you know made in the nineteen sixties. So it's got a nice texture to it and so i'm really trying to curate a cool set of tools and i'm going to bring tools on pallets. I'm gonna have to take them all politics. I really want to shop to feel set in a so. That's another thing. We're going to rent a forklift at television. People are gonna rent forklifts so that's I can forklift things from my shop on my flatbed. And i could bring them here and on for lift them here so once ready for that. By the end of the week we'll have a fourth two and then we're getting a new. Cnc machines can be crazy. Are you worried at about you. Know like with the the number of trucks and people and stuff coming onto the property under. They're not necessarily being your house and stuff like that. But are you worried about it. Kinda wear and tear on you. You've been building this place up and kind of getting it. How you want for a really long time the wear and tear that i'm worried about most is the art of me and will they take a lot of pride in the lawn. We're always making sure that scene a well kept and so on and so on but this back part of my law which is just about a half of an acre of property. There is gonna get destroyed. They're putting two tractor trailers in today tomorrow. Fifty five foot trails one after the other. So that's in a hundred twenty five feet of lawn. That's gonna be just an office for the next four months. So how does that work with power. Yeah the generator. They have the generator at their. They just dropped off a tremendous generator. Oh so that's going to be running all the time yup loud not. It is a low home. It's not it's it's like a car running cars running it's not. It's not like a little honda generator. It is designed to be on television sets. Saliva runs Definitely is noisy. But it'll be far enough away from where we work but it is going to be in a dumpster with bringing a dumpster has like. I don't wanna dumpster here. Hey we're gonna need it. I want a dumpster fire. yeah we when. We had a dumpster driveway for doing the kitchen. I like considered keeping it like. It's awesome i know and then we talk. I put up these new gates and put up one one set of gates but we put two columns at each entrance which very expensive i in anybody bumped into them. It would be a nightmare because it's just loose stones while they are cemented together but if a car hit him they would all become loose stones. So real bovis about that. So is so. We're going to put the dumpster right as a straight shot in front of the back gate so a dumpster truck can pull in and grab it and then go straight out instead of having turn so. There's lots of logistics to deal with them. You know at the end of the day when this thing eventually gets published. This is going to be like a bunch of people goofing off in the shop and all this other background stuff that nobody will have seen the frantic finish to get all the electrical outlets buttoned up and the frantic. Finish to get all the gravel driveway. Just done by culvert fixed around the the barnes so that the water doesn't run across the driveway. Now all these dumb little things. It's it's like when the olympics come to town which just making sure that. I joke with taylor. Every time her mother is coming to stay with us we have to change the sidewalks and the lamp posts and repaint all the window. Sills because hamams picky shall notice. These things says like the olympics. Come into town and it's the same thing with this. It's like tails the house. The house to look like a ghost house so she put up cartons in one of the prominent rooms at ucf from the street. She's gonna put curtains I never put up every Every window of my house so yeah but the thing is like when when the show's over and it's all gone and all that weird stuff leaves. You're gonna be like the shops going to be set up like good to go all at yard work's done we're just gonna have giant divots in your backyard. A couple of people have said to me man. Nothing like it's illusion production to motivate. Ya has absolutely. I mean that's the reason why. I built got the inside the when i did. Also get a little bump of money so like you know. Let me do it now and the twos gonna look better on. Tv like they didn't say you need to finish your mind shooting barnum i will you like going shoot on my bar and i wanna make sure it looks cool and it was up to mehta dinner the dual that they came and looked at it and they're like is everything going to be insulation. I'm like no no no. I'm fixing this up but that was all on me. You know it's all it's all my it's all about me but definitely getting a substantial rental fee and you know talent so they'll definitely cover those bases recoup some of that and that's why i'm taking advantage of time to do that now. Yeah yeah so. I got the trailer and i got a couple of little finicky movies on working on. I you guys know that. I'm selling coffee now with a partner with in coffee beans and so i'm gonna make a coffee grinder. Have no idea how to do it but a promise the team i'd make it to promote the coffee. I'm gonna make a mechanical coffee grinder. And that's gonna become like a rube goldberg kind of milk together. From parts of my shop kind of thing have a couple of loose ideas but that might be a quickie that might be like a two day build so that something that's been on my mind and i have as of next week. I have one month to finish the trailer. Bid april in the show starts shooting win april twenty six cool just right back to back. Everything's gonna be matched. I always say this to be few days. I don't have to sleep to get these things done. I'm going to happen actually have helped. You know we have to remain in a bubble so me and the other talent on the show are have to stay together so this is going to be cool and been have built it help when it comes down to doing a lot of detail stuff some interesting video when it comes out of his it'd be like why are those people hanging out with. You can't tell you it'll be pretty obvious at that point. that's cool. Well we'll see for me. I'm still in the kitchen. I don't even remember. Like i know i've talked about where everything's out for the basketball weeks on the show but i i've just lost track of win. What in did i tell you about my anniversary. You forgotten said ticket otter yep we totally. I don't remember if i told you that on here or not but lake we completely just missed the fact that are answered both of us so it wasn't just me but that is a pretty good snapshot of how the black past several weeks have been. It's just kinda heads down doing cabinet stuff and doing you know the room stuff. And so i finally beginning to get to a point where i'm out of one section like all of the carcasses and drawers are done and so now i'm onto a drawer faces and doors and the cool thing about that is that it's all the same thing it's just different sizes and so it's a lot of you know trying to be really precise measuring but then Like the shaker style. Doors i on my whiteboard. I drew like a kind of diagram of the door. I labeled everything with letters. And then i wrote out math equations. For like if you know if it's this wide then that means the peace has to be this minus this plus this to get the right. You know i did that. Which is not complicated or difficult or anything but it made it so that i could plug in numbers and very easily. Get what i need to cut. Because i have to cut like forty eight to fifty eight doors or something like panels and every one of those is a combination of rails styles that are different in an inset panels that are different and so a lot of having that little rock of. Yeah and it's super easy to make a mistake in that when you're just like crunch and a number to cut the next piece And so i just decided to make a little chart so that i can plug in a number on the whiteboard and this is the one. I'm working on here. The the width and the height of the door. Here are the pieces that have to cut and that way not necessarily going to get them all right. But at least i have thought through it and i have a process to get to that thing. it's funny though. I started that couple days ago and might get this whole process. Figured out got all my the lumber that i could get. I can't get enough of. I'm doing One by three solid maple for the frames and then an mdf inset panel a quarter inch mdf. all going to get painted. But i wanted to have a hard wood around the outside. So you know if it gets dinged and stuff. It'll last so. I got as much as i could get. This process. Figured out got this matching set a router bits to do the the slot the tenant and the things so that they can all fit together and set up on the on the router table. And i i've got these boards long wars. I have to cut a dato or the slot along one side and then chopped that long piece of wood into the right links rate so like run two or three pieces through and so got this. Cut this slot cut in all these things go and i trust them up in the links and then at some point the rotor bit moved up Not down but that's the weird thing didn't slip. It's not like the router in the table drooped or could vibrated out of college moved up but i mean it's crank down i don't know i don't know so i find that the slot on a couple of the pieces has moved up. It's even it's just vertically in the wrong space. Where is that. Where which board has the rampant find that one no. they're all a little bit ramped. Minimum restraint finish is not that anyway so that was my first like the first big cuts. That was my first big problem. Like oh now these are off. It's not a huge deal. I you know. I can make some matching pieces and so i have a set of three or four panels. That are going to be slightly different than everything else. Because the inset panels little raised but so that was the first thing i get those made. They look fine. I go to make the next piece. I'm like all right. I got the the bit is moved back to the right place. I've got the whole thing lockdown. Good to go like everything is reset. And i've had a good night's sleep and i'm ready ready to go. I cut one piece for camera. We get the shot we need to get and then i'm like all right now. It's just like heads down. I'm gonna make a thousand doors. I go to pull the trigger on the router and it goes round died unlike I like rain and it just would not start. This is all just back to back to back like okay. Well here's this problem. Now move onto this next solve. That problem this move onto this so now. My router just doesn't work anymore this router. I've had mounted in this table for ten years. Maybe not ten years eight years just won't start so take apart the switch clean out it's like full sawdust so i cleaned. That out started again. Does the same thing ended up taking it out of the table turning over and a bunch of pieces of black classic fall out of the inside of the router fabric yet. I guess a some. It's just that was my router to use for this entire thing and so immediately get on amazon. I'm looking for a new router and a router. Lift 'cause i never got lift. I just had like a plate in a table on goal from and replace the one thing amaze real replace the other thing and then. I'm looking for ones that i could get you know friday. Instead of in two weeks it is just turned out. Like a whole thing and wanna do is finished the cabinets. I just wanna make the dumb doors in game on and move on is one thing after another so anyway. I've got all that stuff on order. I took the opportunity to take out a the all of the router. Stuff that was in table saw wing i rea levelled the wing which i think might have been the problem with the with some of the the bit shifting at. I don't think it was actually that the bit moved. I think that when. I pressed down the piece of wood. The part of that that part of the table that ended the wing a little bit off level. And so i was. I think i was kinda leaning the piece of wood. i think. I don't really know. But whatever i took the chance to level at all so this weekend i should be getting new stuff that i have to spend time to install and set up again and then i can get back to doors. I was gonna suggest Typically have to run a lot of material through the saw aura. Or router like you did. I tend to for that exact reason. Where if you miss an adjustment or something adjusts itself. I tend to keep it. I'll rough cut it. I'll cut every piece. Just like for instance. My rock videos done where. I make this cabinet and i do. All the draw faces rough. Cut them all. I knew they needed to at least be twenty four interest. I made them all. Say twenty four. Three quarters is i was gonna make my fine cut is if i if i set the jig up and do it then all of a sudden i realized that there's something wrong so i did put in making this as i would've run it through in pieces. And what a rough yet those and this way you check one and then he always check like and i know that from being in factories where in a full will go through the process and they always check the fifth one so every fifth one every third one gets checked and this way you know that you keep her a. Everything's good as as good as the first one that it was approved. What i ended up doing since. I got kinda stuck in used. The router anymore ended up doing the work of figuring out the lengths in the size of panels for as many of the doors as i possibly could and i went through and chopped all the pieces. The maple down to the correct links. Now i have a bundle of a panel and four pieces and that's a door and they're just sitting stack so then when i get the router said backup. I can route all four of those at a time. So even if they're wrong they're the same. You're going to do like that. Classic stack where the one just takes the profile of the style of the rails. So you have so. You can have the big crazy dangerous router bit. Oh yeah it's terrifying in when it when it like turns on it. Sounds like a plane taking off balance. No imagined doing all of this with contractor tools and not your big stationary table saw router and a router table thing or by hand. Yeah this is shaker style. Which means the shaker people your head. Oh my goodness. I could not imagine like i know everybody out there. Who's like a hand till hand tool fine woodworker persons like yes. I do all that by hand. And i'm awesome for it. I agree you're. I'm i would not want to do that but yeah so at this point. I've started breaking down the material for each individual door about a little over halfway through the entire kitchen of getting you know a pack of pieces for panels and so I just have to get some more material. And then i can do that. Same process so theoretically. I should have all the doors all the door faces in stocks and then once the router stuff is set up. It's going to be like probably two days of just routing which is going to be super loud and make a super mess Then we should build move on and hopefully we can get that stuff done. Our our appliances got shipped which is super cool like two weeks earlier than i thought so. We may actually have a place to cook soon. Should have a similar but smaller scale router problem that we ran into yesterday while making the speakers on the on the front. You have There's a circle cut out and then there's a rabbit where the speaker falls into because the face of the speaker has to be flush with the cabinet otherwise you get this thing called diffraction and so we made a circle cutting jig for the router which involves a pin in a board and that router just goes around the pin and so you you cut the rabbit i which takes three passes and then you set the You have to move the pin each time. Then the fourth pass we have to cut all the way through to make the whole and that also takes three passes so it can go all the way through the woods so it takes quite a bit of time and you know we measured everything and we cut everything in a piece of scrap plywood and it was perfect the first time you know it takes a good fifteen minutes. Make all those cuts and speakerphone right in. It was flush it was the perfect size. We are good to go and then for whatever reason when we go to cut it on the front piece that we made and this is not just a rectangular piece. We've already cut this piece to size. It has rabbits all around the edges. It's got a data going down the middle for the center. Brace so this piece has already had a bunch of time in it. Then we cut the circle in the and the rabbit and the speaker doesn't fall in it doesn't make any sense wide speaker. Why the circles at different size because we use the we use the same pin holes. And we're just kind of blown away and we just assume like dusk got underneath the broader and caused it to go sideways or whatever but the plan was we were just going to film the there's There's four woofers in a set so the plan was we'll just film this one and i don't have dust collection on this palm reader so i'll do the other three outside But for this would just end. It didn't fall in and it's screwing up the film and everything and at that point it was like five thirty. I'm like okay. We're just gonna call today. This'll be my problem. The fix later. I'll see next week dan. So it's it's frustrating when you have everything set up and you everything's measure perfect and you spent all this time getting everything just right and then it doesn't work. Yeah well and like so. I know a lot of people who do. Woodworking are very detail oriented. They are very precise with measurements. Especially if you're doing something like speakers where it matters or cabinets where you're going to see if the gaps are not exactly the same. You're going to see it in. I don't have that naturally. That like i round up often. It were like you. It's just how i am. And and so when i take the time to like with these faces like the interior cabinet part of the drawers. You don't really see those. They can be pretty close and it's gonna be fine but the drawer face and the doors like they have to fit exactly right so i've intentionally said to myself like i cannot round. I'm gonna take the time. I'm working to the sixteenth. I'm like i'm gonna do my best here like not just enough like this is not going on camera. I'm doing my best. You're working to the senate. What are you an animal. I know i know mr thousands. Yeah but like to take that that amount of effort in my measuring process and said like try to be really precise in the something so stupid go wrong about like the bit moving or the squareness of the table or the level of the table. Be the problem That was disappointing. So it sounds like the same kind of thing where you like. You've taken all the time to be really with the whole measurement and everything and then it just kinda doesn't work for some particular reason that's even more frustrating than if it just hadn't worked because you didn't really put in the right yeah but So anyway that's what i've been up to and we're trying to figure out you know i'm trying to figure out exactly when to kinda step away from the kitchen. 'cause may have been heads down in the kitchen for a month and a half now but it's like all done and there's gotta be a point even when it's not finished where i have to say okay now. It goes on kind of intermittent mode. Where like do some and then. I do something else on that. Come comeback to can't just do full-time kitchen until it's done because we won't have any other videos so alike. I'm trying now to figure out exactly where that point is. What that next thing is that. I can switch back and forth to but like i mentioned a few weeks ago. I also don't want to get back into the trap of we need a quick thing just to have a video. I don't wanna do that anymore. And so there's two parts of me that are kinda fighting right now about like i really just want to get this thing done and wanna keep working on it till it's done but i also really feel like i probably need to do something else both for content and for my own mental. Just i need a break. But i don't i guess there's three things. They're in conflict design also. Don't want to just go do a thing. That's fast just to have a video. I don't think that's beneficial anymore. So that's kind of where i met with all this and it's also really hard realized may have mentioned this last week as well. It's really hard to be creative about a future thing when you are so occupied with the current thing and jimmy. This may be what you're dealing with this right now or not. But you're so like your head is probably full of current you know the shop and the tv and all that stuff that it feels like it would be really hard to like to be created for thing. That's going to be in a couple of weeks. Like think ahead does. I'm really good at an practice at compartmentalizing my time. So they'll be a moment while i'll stare and i'm going to run home and work on x. Or after go do drawings of this in the city there. Was this coffee shop. I would always go sit out of kinda hide their. Nobody knew out. Go there Sketches and again do the same thing now like maybe come to the house or i used to go. Sit the diner here. But that's closed. Because a covert and i would just sit at the counter. The diner with a couple of pieces of black paper in it would help me flush out a few thoughts. And it's really really for me. Personally it's really helpful to compartmentalize getting. I say this all the time how your subconscious really does work and when i was ignoring the enclosed trailer project. My mind really was working on. Even though i wasn't working on being my conscious mind there was definitely working on my subconscious. Mind where for instance. I was going to build the whole deck. On the whole thing across the entire surface the deck would be out up to the with the wheels. It's a trailer. That's twelve by six but it really needs to be eight by twelve So i looked also hearing very conscious of weight and being conscious of how much metal i put into this thing and looking at it. I was like it just occurred to me subconscious. When the minute. I looked at the trailer. Mind like the diffusion file and my mind of corrales completely across the trailer making up. The new floor were now extended off of the rails of the trailer so now. The sub is going to consist of the entire width of the floor. That's there which is very substantial and these eleven inch outriggers that are in front of the wheel wells and behind the wheel else. But i didn't see that until but the back room of my brain past the to the front room like okay. Now he's ready for it. Sounds crazy but it really works like that for me a lot. Because when i'm when i when i'm ignoring something it's not it's not completely ignored. Some same is there's always a little some and like i'll i'll just pass through something in a day be like that's the problem that my back brain is working on this. There's a solution to one of the small problems. My back brains work on. Let me throw it back there and keep moving all of my day and then when i look at the trailer afternoon looking at it for a week immediately. See that trans transmutation of all this map. Tear up the floor. Now is just extensions of the existing floor. Save myself a lot of material a lot of time and a lot of weights. Which is something. I have to be super conscious. And that's why. I like to just not be too hard on something when until the chinese right in that too. I don't wanna for sports force until the time is right like i was telling you guys a little before the show about some of the creative means having and what's happening in the creative meetings for shows like okay. What do you think of this idea. How would you make you okay. We'll make that look you do it. I don't know what you mean. you like. You think it'll be done my. Yeah it'll be done. Why are you gonna make like. I don't know yet. What are your favorite when it comes to come to you. Know it'll come to me in time but put like earth give us the answer now and been that demanding and just being a little dramatic things need time to to marinate or to be mulled over by the unconscious. Mind immediately. Like put the task. Like how are you gonna do like well. I guess i would do that. Do that put this over here. And then you look back in. Something doesn't feel a link first draft. Yeah that feels a little inelegant and it takes time for it to start to take some elegance. And that's where that's what your subconscious mind goes to work. So what was the question originally. I just. I'm i was curious how you dealt with that because i can find myself right now. Not giving my mind any space to do that. Like i'm i've been so focused on something that even literally. My dreams are about building cabinets. I've had so many dreams lately. That are doing the same thing that i'm doing during the day. It's a dream of me making pocket hold boxes and then cutting data's stuff and it's weird because i can tell how my day went well. The the dream is a productive dream. Were like look at all those cabinets i made. Or it's these ones that are super annoying. Like i'll cut a piece of wood and i'll turn around and turn back in the woods. Not cut the cut again and the turnaround and a turn back in. It's not cut. I've had those where the work is there. But nothing's getting done. And that is absolutely a reflection of what my brain went through that day. it's crazy. I'm tired of cabinets. I'm like super tired of cabinets. We gotta take time. You gotta take time to be playful. Yeah like for instance. Today i'm going to be with you guys and i get to go. Lay out the drawing for the side. And i'm excited for that. I was drawing on the ground with chalk. Keeps me but reminds me of being playful and creative lunacy kids with jock although it's going to be a technical drawing in life size on the ground but when i see that technical drawing it's the next big step to like okay. This is getting closer to reality less of a thought in my head. But today i'm gonna go pick up that machine in a small town having been in in ten years appear in upstate. New york and So i mean these little things at my day. Keep me decided to keep me creative. Like it's i'm not just going to pick up a new tool. I'm gonna take an adventure. I'm going to go on. The path of verona. Just looked on the map before we started. I'm going to go on this road. I've never been on. What am i going to discover on that road universities a lot more than just. Don't pick up that machine but these are subtleties. that aren't really ever talked about expressed but it does help. Keep you playful michael. Every new road drive down. Like what am. I going to discover that i could then make into art. That could become part of my art. What will i discover that. It's going to be the next new hobby. For instance the way. I found printing years ago. Like what's going to be. The next cool thing was going to be that that truck that needs to be brought back to life for know what's going to be that weird thing so you know those little playful things. Keep a subconscious happy. I think that's one interesting thing that i wouldn't have said or wouldn't have thought fully through until just now when you said that but i think that's one of the few ways that i've been really negatively impacted by covid. Is that those types of extraneous. Like let's just go see what happens over here. I'm not doing any of that stuff. I haven't for year and a half or whatever Is it's just like. I go do the thing i need to do. And just stay away from everything else for now And it's weird. Because i hadn't really thought about that but there's been a lot of those type of excursions in those type of like i'm just going to go wander in this place and see what happens that i just i could do that. I just haven't taken advantage of it but That'll be a nice thing to get back to one of these days. Speaking of i'm getting my first vaccine shot today. i got my second one On saturday nice yeah. Santa was sick on sunday. A really young like the flu like symptoms for twelve hours. But it wasn't bad. I am not an anti vaccine at all so like to see progress but i just don't foresee any time of me getting vaccinated like when it comes to like filling papers and all that stuff. I'm just thinking. I'll do it later later. I the fact that i had to go for testing in when i returned from california like the takes paperwork at the new york airport You so just doing that and sit in my car in a line like this is not my world. This is not for me and have to do that again. So i might just get hurt immunity eventually go ahead and order it online now if i hurt him unity of easy no i don't know i maybe maybe with this production. There's gonna be a flurry of shots. I have no idea of. Yeah but a lot of covid compliance about to come here and you know when the danger of cove is gonna come in right the minute. The medical person shows up on onset prior to that. there's absolutely no danger of covert but the excited everything every door knob. It's on every mask. It's on everything so well you guys got anything else. We don't really had a specific topic. But i guess if there was any takeaway from today i like factual stuff i let my brain doodles back brain. All the were jimmy hates stories now. all right let me think are patriot. Oa david together them. I guess that's gonna lead you into patriotic okay. So a couple of weeks ago. My pick was the documentary on quentin tarantino's first eight movies. The documentaries called the first eight and that was You know as my my recommended pick that week and then one of our patriotic members. Mike bless does not sure how to pronounce his name be. Oh yes will mike reach out to us. And said hey. I did the title animation on that film and he's really audible so i just thought that was super cool. One of our pedram listeners. Did the title for that film. So yeah carry-on bots very cool right on well Big thanks to mike and to everybody else over patriot on that supports the show. We are really grateful for you and everybody over there. No matter what level. You're supporting at even a dollar an episode or whatever you get the after show which is another fifteen twenty minutes of us yama ring about stuff and often. Jimmy talks about baseball which is code for tv in things There's a lot of secret stuff and you know just other stuff in the after show so if you wanna join Goto patriot dot com slash. Making it over there are top. Supporters are corey award. Alvarez woodworks works by solo. Chad from man crafting. You can make this to funchess artistic creations. Blondie acts rich low and designs corey for make shape creatine odin leather goods. Thank you everybody. Thank you guys. Thank you Go go do that. You guys got anything to recommend mine was gonna be. The stories already said that. So i'm done. I found a funny one. I gotta tell you. I gotta read the name correctly but it is emma stralia on new zealand. I guess he's australian comedian. And i just found him just because i've been watching like european comedians. And so the pop this popped up probably going to say this kind of wrong but is skinny. Blond dude is very funny. Name is frenchie. Snuggie attack delivering a bell to anybody. I'm pretty sure you just made that up. But no frenchie snug attack. Look the less three movies. I watched from him. Can you see that she sanga attack. Yeah okay go thunk. Oh yeah yeah. There's no yes sung cuttack frenchie sung attack. He's super funny. Silly goofy and his videos are just. They're almost like a like a comedy bit. Actual is like five as a guy would pick up a girl and these little scenario these like little two minute. Snippets him with his girlfriend on him with his mates as they always say in england and It's really really funny. I mean i've been sending them to taylor and fatality reacted. Like some of my stupid picks. She's like oh. My god that shaikh i'll send it to her and ten minutes. That was hilarious. Which is like you know it was funny. Yeah so check it out. It's so silly and stupid Mine is a video. You probably already watched. It is from stuff made here in the videos called making a log. Carving robot guessing unbelievable unbelievable shia. It's insane it's just unbelievable. Kid is crazy yeah. I really love about his videos. Is that his so much doesn't film. It's actually a lesson in filmmaking. Because there's so much just leaves out and it still tells the story He just shows you like huge key moments of success or failure that tell the ultimate story but he doesn't show all the small minutiae of like he doesn't fill up time in space with you know a lot of redundancy so i commend him for that i mean he's just he's under unbelievable youtube gill I don't have much else to say. I don't want to ruin anything. But he's got one of those big automated robot arms. Those killer robot arms at factories. Use that jim supposed to get one day. The guy bailed on me. it's so associated with. I talked about it so much. Everybody sending me that because of the robot arm as another. There's like another crowd funded small one video stuff shop. And i'm like the authority on robot arms who doesn't own a robot arm the robot on but doesn't own aruba as channel it may only be like a year old and you might only have like twelve or fourteen videos. And he's you know he's got a blown two and a half million subs sees is. He's on the youtube trending page like 'cause he's doing it right. He's makes really good videos and he's insanely intelligent at if he watches video. You're like 'cause one of the great things is. I don't know much about coding But he talks about different. Coding algorithms where he's like okay. We're going to try this theory i. It doesn't work so then. He hits to switch to another theory but the way he explains how the theories work makes it make sense for someone like me and it's just so good Made no sense to me but it was fun to watch Yes so check that one out in related to that is Jeremy fear thing he. I haven't watched this one yet. But jeremy's awesome and so. I'm sure it's going to be good. But he built a seven access robot arm from scratch alec watson. He's been working on like seeing seeing learning. Cnc in making all these parts. And i can't wait to watch it. 'cause it's it looks awesome and i know the way his mind works and it's going to be very cool so that's another robot arm video for you so all right you got anything else. Yeah cool the american all right. Well thanks for listening everybody. We're going to go do the after show all the nobody's gonna believe that you gotta do better than that. I was just yawning. Love you thank you. Thanks everybody when you teach. Diana say i love you say like you mean it the after show. Ooh people realize that there's literally no breath between the regular show in the after show. I just wait for everybody to stop talking for a second. And then i go and the ad. I'm always confused.

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Part 2 :Steve Haskin, Seth Merrow

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Part 2 :Steve Haskin, Seth Merrow

"For Ti dot. Org. Sirius Xm forts. With Steve. Ways and becoming interviewed. This is. Steve. We're back our to on this. Wednesday that means said Fernando Sire Watch pedigree focus brought to you by Dell. Say Good Morning. Good Morning Steve How are you? Excellent, excellent and. I I obviously WANNA talk a maximum security and The. The great one win and ten furlongs and so forth. And how it how it influences him but I I. Look to you very often when we've got social topics that inter intercede or overlap. With the sport and clearly with the Situation Louisville and I'll be there by Saturday but We certainly. Certainly saw plenty of. Pointed Discussion I. Guess. To say, yes, the. The last twenty, four hours I some. You know what's your? What's your read on on? On the On the social. When it comes to understanding the house and wise and the potential benefit of utilizing the derby backdrop as calls for change in action. Well I mean it's it. You know to. The toby legitimate. Maneuver with the president from nineteen. Sixty. Seven lots been brought up on social media parking back to sixty seven and. What the protests And the arrangement that was made back then up but you know. It doesn't even have to leave the Derby Steve I mean it. Would living through a time right now where I mean we just coming This on the heels of. The death of Jacob Blake and you know it's it's People who you know don't understand. IS A. Segment of society. That's outraged. They're they're watching away and then. We break apart and saluting deke wine. I mean. It's great. For most people. Statistically. They the. A large Watson this country over. I forget what it was sixty seven percent. Your, that There's a big social issue taking place. In terms of Systemic. Racism. Black. Lives matter movement particularly he. has garnered plenty of attention and and plenty people that. Understand that it's it's an organization that's a trying to bring a voice to it. you get you know. Some people in. Racing. Racing has its. Share right wing people. that. Stay silent. while. You had. You know debts of Brianna Taylor George, foyt etc, and listen so long. And? Immediately speak when Protests turned violent and that's used as A. Flashpoint. Talk about You know there's there's a problem in this country and usually the dog whistle is. there's an. Inability, among these groups to. Park, the difference between a organization. that. advocating for justice. And the anger that takes place. On the scene of a death, sometimes that organically fueled rage and lead unfortunate riots. there's also a misunderstanding of agitators that are. Exploiting situations like that. Frequently from the right that fuel that stops. To To make this. The picture even? More fearful for quote unquote suburban people but you know. As far as the idea of protest. At. A major event sporting event. I mean it's it's it's a peaceful protest. that trying to bring a voice. To the cards. It's unfortunate obviously for participants in the AH the race. that. Would refer to have. A. Quote Unquote Normal Derby but it's it's not a normal year September derby and it's a year. That's. Just. Been ripped apart now we by. Kobe but by this. Increase in Racial tension that's created a call for. Justice. It's not a difficult thing to understand. It's it's a difficult thing to address and. It try to get. A. Response from. Governments whether their. Local level. State level or most importantly the tone from the top. Your federal government specifically, the president the White House. Unfortunately That element hasn't really set the tone the combination to. I think that's that's I. Think we're just getting. Born ten speed as we get closer to the election. Well I do understand. I do understand the. One of the messages out there which is. How can How can? Something like this, be you know celebrated and be a? You know be a La- joviality and a frivolity under-. You know the the backdrop of in the same in the same city. Under the conditions that. You know that exist and and that's a that's a fair question to ask and it's not and it's not an easy question to answer. Advocate that and that's the part, and that's why you know for the people that that when it comes, let's say the twitter and Facebook, etc if for the people who seem mystified by. Responses to their. Asking, what is any of this have to do with with the Horse Race? Well, it has everything to do with it because it it it plays into the you know the themes of. Being tone deaf. To, the plight. Of others and and specifically you know, right In the you know right in. In amongst the community in the Vale and and you know having having lived in in one of the reasons I'd Love Louisville. Is that it reminded me and has reminded me of my time in Cincinnati and that a lot of ways it seems it always seems to me to be a smaller. Version essentially of Cincinnati and. I might have I might have a A. Rose Colored Glasses view of Cincinnati. But when I was there in the eighties, it racial tensions later emerge. But when I was there in the eighties, the it it, it was a pretty. Balanced community and there wasn't Those those overtones and Louisville instantly reminded me of that. You know of that. Coexistence essentially. Between. Between a variety of racial and ethnic backgrounds as well as you know as as well as. Native. Anglo. Kentucky Inns and. It? I mean, it's agonizing. said it yeah. It's just a heartbreaking and. I. You you see the relatives on on. On TV n You just. To. Just. Some degree you feel helpless and so I mean my my purpose in opening the show, the way I did and knowing ahead of time that I'll devote part of the week in Louisville I'll devote Monday. Tuesday probably you know before the drawn such I. I. WanNa, get some voices on and and have a great. That's great. Yeah it's important. Jade gory would be. Correct irresponsible. It's got to be incorporated into the dialogue. You've done the right thing. I I've gotten I. I've gotten two emails this morning the people a gas that I I'm sorry if it bothers you I I'm sorry I I'm the son of an immigrant and I am horrified. When I just horrified I'm frightened. Sixty years old my father escaped Nazi Austria in Nineteen thirty, nine, ten days before the war started. Wow. And lost his sister and the rest of their family virtually from. Berlin Prague lived in Budapest, the the the family on a widespread basis. And my father's ninety Is, now ninety and. For him to see what what is going on and and to. Heartbreaking the second down having having been beaten by. Brown shirts coming out of temple as a child and I I it is. It's beyond. Any. Potential I couldn't in my life imagine. That at at this. Age. I I would. I would witness. A celebration of the worst. Arguably, the worst a elements of the world's the world in the twentieth century in particular. That that. A. Philosophy. That was beaten down by by a America when it was truly great. That, we would allow this and somehow have it be. Taken as a viable. Political discussion or presence is revolting. Against everything that goes against everything that this country has ever supposedly stood for, and that's what's troubling about this. Really. So well put Steve and I appreciate that because now that's that's absolutely That's absolutely true and Yeah quite honestly, I've been discussed the last. For years by jump. In fact, that's why I said You know I just can't wait even get off twitter I. Mean I. Don't WanNa talk about politics. That's not my thing. I never have and the only reason. I was. Even? drawn into this thing was. For the thing that you were talking about right now and You know obviously involved in twitter you know about that But yeah it's. It's. It's it's really troubling in fact, I yeah. I'm I'm GonNa, live and let live type guy and I. in fact, I was a good conversation with a friend of mine. Kentucky. Good. Old boy good guy I know him. and you know I I mentioned this on twitter voyages repeated here I said Look Bro. I I don't care if you're racist I don't care if you're an asshole. Something he keep it to yourself once he starts filling this stuff out. And put it into the public. Anteater, you know your ass is going to get what? He can't you know hold onto whatever you want to think but don't start acting on it. You know. And that's the problem we have. Is Evidence Been Greenlighted for people to? act on some of the worst things they actually believe and so You know that's built into this thing and. That's why we day get on twitter or social media and and you know obviously those. Nets? Echo Chamber the. I like he would probably more than it is real but again, it's. It's something that we see right now and It's ugly. Very. True. Thank you. All right. Let's shift gears and. Talk. A little said about the weekend pass the and we'll wait for you know I am derby thoughts from you. Further expansion of pedigree. Influence you're always. Always able to identify One or two. inclusions beyond the obvious And you'll. You'll certainly you'll certainly weigh in on on the leading candidates as well. But maximum securities went on Saturday night Very solid fig. Solid performance I thought you know I thought he was he was pressed along particularly the second half of the race when when When Samurai came at them and you know force them for a good three eighths half mile. And he you know he was running he was running freely I. Mean It. Did what he what he does best. FA. Starts on on what it, what it needs for him and portends going forward. Yeah well. Yeah. I'm of the view which appears to be a minority views days that when you ship. To the middle income back particularly in California when you go back to California and. I'm of the view that it's. It's a little more difficult for the bounce back and. What I do know that I did speak the bathroom before the horse, weighing. In, the San Diego as well as Gary West and you know they were a little nervous because he's carrying hundred twenty seven. Hidden. Raised in months and New. Horse. For backward. and. BAFFERT hadn't been really able to. Hone on. Get get get much adding Africa felt like he was. and he did tell me this before the race that felt like you could still win. Haiti percent. needed the race badly because this is you know he's not a great work course and That that rates you get it out of winning back for you know one of the things he told me post-race with the. Thing that really strikes it. To him about this is that. When you put them in a race she just got this unbelievable. We'll to win you know and he is awards that does. Obviously need to be encouraged quite a bit she that that in Saudi Arabia. So they felt like coming back even those quick turnaround dropping back to equal weights with everybody going mind and a quarter. Now, a lot of people think, Oh, you know this this cult is you know built like screener and he's really not meant to go and a quarter, but that's just not to forget about style race or whatever whenever horse can knock off twelve seconds age twenty, four second quarter. The entire trip. That were staged and that's exactly what he did I mean. You know Metronomic Twenty, four, twenty, four, twenty, four, and it was just yeah. He and You know you know both? Of these horses that don't stay there, they're going that last quarter twenty, six, twenty, seven after having gone. factor will earlier. So this was. That part alone you know shows you that that pedigree I mean by New Year's Day. Street Christ down. Out of a mayor that's by son of AP indies, you know he really does have. The ability to stand pedigree. Despite what he looks like physically fifteen threes he sprinter bilby muscular called. A lot of people could faults impression sometimes at Zeke and try and eat quite that with the ability to stay. but that's not the case in his. In his make. You know from a personal standpoint we burn blog that worked are because. You know who take part in In helping to. Kind of help with this mating the the the mayor was one of. Several we'd recommend to the West were interested in supporting nears day kind so. It's doubly satisfying that sense as well. Course obviously Baffert, he's thinking about yet another run even before the Breeders Cup and probably. Probably. Would benefit from another race just. Going, by what we're talking about that, you know he just does need to get home a little more. And You know I think I think should he ended up in the? Breeders Cup classic It's GonNa be a heck of a race. the guy the time formed guy Had mentioned on twitter that it's GonNa. Be You know? Probably, the best competition will come from three year old crop in the beers criteria I tend to agree with that. Any number, three heroes, I think this year. Will probably, BE A. Major adversaries through for year old horses and he appears to. You know. Off Swarm, you'd be the best out of them you know times, I got other horses but. This you know when he's When he's really clicking he. It's GonNa take. The horse is GonNa take some forty to overhaul and in the stretch because he does not give up. Yeah I I I know some people thought you know the competition didn't up and he didn't get pressed the way he should have been midcourt than. Higher. Power. CETERA and. You. Know it was a turf force that was You know chasing him, etc. But I think if you if you just kinda focus in on his on his performance and kind of watch him. Run, he's a fun to watch run I I I. It's. It's a heresy apparently to to like this horse that that that that's a it's a great affront dery. According to you know according to some people I, think it's pretty obvious You Watch him in that setting I able to do a lot of credit for you know he he came under. Came under the similar kinds of. Criticism that many Franko came. More yeah. Right with Kentucky. Downs Kentucky Downs Kentucky Jockey Club. Has a two year old with his the law. An, able to the I think I said the other day. There's a couple of weeks ago able to kind of the West Coast Manny Franko Anyway A-. And the same kind of analogy on the ride, right? Yeah. but I think it's a testament to the connection stay with both obviously really talented. Writer and. He wrote a great time. Right and he also you know he made sure to keep the source busy too because I think when she wants he, you know get to know this Cole. There's some more than Steve that. Don't respond to the whip word. To hear urging in there are others that. Kinda need that and and just you know it helps to keep them going and and it's true in all sports. Your different types of personality that that. Is Fun to watch and You know. He's he's just as table horse that What's fun about him? In A. In a real dogfight or not is dad. You just know that this was Isn't gonNA give up and that's that's you know that's that part Of course racing where we bring that human element and to really identify with and That's That's that's one of the. That's one of those things that you know makes it. Really, fun watching. I mean nobody thinks greater source of all time I saw. guys go nuts on twitter thinking. Trashing. Tours. And saying nobody's saying that about it. You. Dan Good Oars. You know until. He gets buried. Somebody takes you know over You gotta give. Them every respect. And it'll. It'll be fun. It'll be fun when the. You know the three year olds finish up with their. With. Their. Unusual. Sophomore season the as it were with. War Three few more three year old restricted opportunities including the Jim Dandy coming and the tessier was going to end up yesterday at the show. Todd. pletcher talking about in a one or two for the test Yo as a win, and you're in opportunity for the preakness the preakness by the way yesterday added Joseph and and Jim Walks with simultaneous press releases Breeders Cup giving the preakness a win, and you're in status for the classic which is fine and so You know the things people are people are dealing on the fly and good for them said a couple of quick notes before we adjourn I wanted to quickly get read and maybe you just touch on it or or save even for next week but we had patty. Gallagher. Talking about the oaks win with Red Lark and epaulette. The Australian stallion though absolutely nothing about him and that was interesting and I'd love you to the at some point touch on on on him and we haven't mentioned really yet. The Great Gretzky the great one the soaring free for Marquette. At woodbine it was Nyquist I steak winter. And that's a great way for let's talk about next week in. Touch on Nyquist more recently NYQUIST is. will you know? Mexico he and he and run happy last you basically. Where the two Big. Work in terms of yearlings. and. Popularity and I think Nyquist. Might've just edged. Out Run. Happy for the highest yearling average last year. really anticipate both Darley's stallion too by the way. What Nyquist? One in Australia on here but It's interesting that in in in with Nyquist Pardons very good group of the. Freshman. This performing higher than anticipated the short. We're cheeses so far. He got he got his first stakes when he had some winners. Obviously. A Derby winner by uncle mouth first crop and There's a lot of buzz on this horse. as well as The other Uncle Mawlid Winstar help were who also has. I just WanNa say maybe five winners already. I don't have the Greg thing so I think He should be much a much watch horse. St Per for people coming. Handicapping races down the road because there are several young stallion trade now. That are showing some really. Promising signs now Nyquist. Was I think Thirty four thousand dollars down to begin with. But just. Real quickly Let me mentioned not this time again because. he kind of oversold last year at the yearly. Sire based on fifteen thousand dollars deadbeat. He's trying giant's causeway and he Kind of people. Stood up in paid attention, and then that was kind of confirmed. With some of the two year old sales from earlier this year including that. one point, three, five sale. Philly, who is then sent Baffert it's. Princeton. Nora. is is their name now stone by A Middle Eastern guy and that. gave performance. Since One would victor. Chip. Back to sitting chilly that almost seemed like he. Was Holding her. As she finished, you know we. Didn't let her out a notch. And and the way she wanted she wants. She wants from I, think that curling have. Yep Right absolute. Remember. Yeah. Who who looks like a really nice. So he killed, but the way she won. really suggests. That in in in the next month or so. you know she'd try and change going in a group one race. And that could end up really blowing the lid off this horse fifteen thousand dollars Stud. Can. Take off. It means a lot. Of particularly. Here he's of giant's causeway, and if he takes off and becomes that next level type sire gives that continuity to the violent. And FLASH MAGIC THE IS BACK YEAH I don't street and that obviously you could just tell the way that horse was finishing wants added ground Also Baffert there was A. It's funny th the. The great ones at Saratoga and the the the terrific cards. Particularly Saturday at Del Mar overshadowed a lot of good two year old performances frankly, and that also included the that I said yesterday the the Uncle Mo golden pow in the skidmore that was that was eye popping and. The crazy I reached out for Marcus Hirsch today couldn't do it but I was going to have market Marcus talk about camping now which hasn't gotten the. Attention that it deserves from the weekend and the Damore. The Kodiak. The stonestreet Kodiak. Philly so that some point I think we lost it but. That that Philly is now three for three between the the Queen Mary Royal Ascot, and the win in the Damore Day on on Saturday. So Saturday or Sunday Sunday I think Sunday morning said she broke her maiden culture so camping now, Kodiak Originally bred in Ireland by Tallyho Kelly stuck. It was only it was a tattersalls purchase. and. Was Two hundred and forty, three, thousand. Fairly you know fairly typical kind of mid range. Price. For a yearly so that for you know quality. Anticipate anticipated equality yearling and she's she's three for three pretty and I I it maybe it's me I don't know if they just didn't get. Not, get the. The same attention I don't know I it just I. Guess that Kind Kinda lost in the shuffle a little. I thought. So. There said Okay I vampire? Yes. I What happened with? The Guy, I guess. Some technology there. Is a technical issue and I got job but Yeah I hear the last part of what you're talking about. Yeah camping out and I. Have Your listeners we've Francis. Karen. P. At the work there. But blog on Kodiak Sire, she wrote A. Speech. On Cap now and the stallion to for those. interested in in the pedigree. Gain Line. The, same. As the epaulette you know help lead by. Command who the Danehill Sally and. So you know they could lead there i. don't know if you've touched upon another. Very serious made win also By that was Lady spiked Speier. WHO's yes? Yes. Yes. Yes. I've mentioned Wli yeah and she of course. Is Bred. Similarly to sheriff spite because they're both by spike town. And whereas sheriff's bite by breeders. Cup winner. Perfect shirl. Lady Spike here is by fight stand out of Lady Shakespeare a half sister to the perfect Cheryl. and be prepared be prepared for another spikes down. Debut soon, the two year old sibling kill. Sheriff's by Spy town girl I think is her name. So the Mr You may have three very. Live fights towns often same family. Pretty. Soon to, of course already. Bad shape statements by winning. And the other one is on the way. Well I opened I opened a can of worms here there's. There's another there's another half hour conversation Let's save it said and I, appreciate it though and that I am now I'm really intrigued about epaulette you know having having the the cross reference with the Kodiak and The. The obviously, the Cheryl spite story is going to continue people are just sort of a wilder that that that chuck is pressing forward. For Derby but that that tandem workout I'll discuss that workout actually with with Steve asking that tandem workout wherever dickey small is he was looking down and smiling. Because that had that that's how dickey small used to have to train broad-brush because there was no one horse that could work with broad brush. So dicky would position horses all around the track and they have to pick up where we're one horse would fall away the another horse who jump in against Rod Rush. I love it. said thanks so much. Sire Watch focused brought to you by Helen Dell and we inch closer every week toward the decision making that should be going on and the evaluating your mayor, the broodmare compatibility analysis from hurt from work thoroughbred consultants five, one, zero, four, nine, zero eleven eleven get a hold of Said and the team and they will help you make your your plan. So you get you get you, Betsy thank you We'll stay right here and Steve. Haskins is GonNa, join us as I mentioned and had a really pleasant evening with Steve and Joan. wrote in Avi. Last night and as we do that I want to mention I showed Steve the field. If you didn't see the drop, you know Friday night we've got. The. I I think it was sort of forgotten that there was going to be a charlestown classic and Charlestown Oaks Et. CETERA. But. Six hundred thousand for the grade to Charlestown classic on Friday night ten, eighteen post time and a the typical. Not, just the typical field that we we very frequently see it a Charlestown classic but of course you you can't run the Charlestown classic if War Story. Doesn't run. I think he's in his I think he's running it his seventh. Charleston classic it. They got a very nice group and you know lot of just. Hard knockers essentially for warned. In here. And tenfold. Tenfold, Modiano speaking, of course, the early runnings with war story when when Ron Taylor she had. But Modo don't know the wonderful Ohio bread of RON'S A. Math. Wizard shows up in here run into love. Ya. Mid Atlantic Mr Money shows up for Gesture Thomas and sleepy is Todd, plus Cafe, running Walsh, and I mentioned war story multiplier in here as well in there was awesome Dj speaking midlantic types who's on the less they put together a nice oaks as well. There was also speaking of the oaks there's also some horses that are going to bypass You know some of the same decision making process involved in Derby. When you you know we're looking at the heavy heavy heads, the meaning the law and art collector, and from there the similarly in the oaks there's people you know they say don't avoid one horse race. Well, you've got Swiss skydiver convene and speech It's a pretty it's a pretty. Pretty heavy hand already. Among the favorites when it comes to the okay. So some people are seemingly looking for some opportunities. Maybe we'll. We'll get to that I think right now going to get the Steve asking good. Morning. Good Morning Steve how you on this glorious Beth Saratoga morning did you know it's funny? You say that I'm good and it it is. The other the other day teen and I, and I can't remember if it was. If it was Friday. Combined have been Friday. After there was a day within the last week. Or after the show. We after lunch, we went out and sat on this on the little. Patio thing that she crafted. In the yard. And It was the first day for those that live up here, and for those of you that visit then Steve You you you'll know exactly what I'm talking about. There is always a point in August usually in the second half of August where there is a day where it's sunny and beautiful. But there's a coolness. Even in the sun and it's Invariably the the first day where you say to yourself summer is over and. For you weren't here the other day but it it the first one was the other day. There was that I it was it was probably eighty degrees but when the Came through it was a foolish breeze as opposed to a warriors and it was the first time I said to myself. Okay. Fall Fall is on the horizon. Out Without the without a jacket, this morning to go back in. Let's try. When Cool and brisk Intel Toga and you're out on your back porch watching all the horses frame telling you. Put an actual jacket. You sit out there and have some nice lox and cream cheese and white fish salad and fruit and. That's I'll tell you you can't beat. No No. Not so bad well, and of course you know we look around and this weekend that Del Mar last night in fact, we kicked around. A variety of. of racing topics with with a lot of eyes toward Derby and and oaks and. I you know I don't even know where really to. Hand it off to you there. You know there there's a couple of decisions yet to be made but you know you. If you want go ahead. In two, thousand and four. I saw. The Quintessential Derby workout. which to this day remains the best. Your workout I've ever seen. And that was that was a workout. Turned in by Smarty Jones, at Churchill downs. We worked five furlongs and fifty, eight and one. And I just watched another horse work five furlongs at Churchill downs and fifty eight one. And it was extremely reminiscent of that work hand the rank right up there. As one of the Best Derby works I've ever seen and as much as all logic tells me though no, don't fall for it and all history tells me note on fall for his. I to move king gear up on my my ranking as much as I look into four months later. And I'd say, you know what? I I have a lot of respect for. I have a lot of respect for Venezuelan trainers. I think the tremendous horsemen we've seen that over the years. But Wow this workout with. A believable. The way he did it. So easily on a loose rain starting off when that ride a finally let him go and he was like. He literally leaked. Pro. And just broke into this beautiful smooth stride and you know how much I love horses when they cut the corner and cut the rail I have never seen a horse get that close to the rail. I? mean he was like an inch from the rail, which to me shows a lot of athleticism when the horse could maneuver like that stay that close to the rail and don't industrial your drift wide. And he did that and he came down that stretch on his own never being asked fifty eight one galloped out all the way way down the backstretch. Mo- Resource. Months A. No. Four months because. Derby you can't equate the old rules. From the Derby to disturb somebody horses coming in off layoffs. Late comes we don't know about. But, I've always loved the source I loved him when he came Tampa Bay. Derby. Win was impressive as I've seen all year and I thought you graded Oaklawn Park is as well. you know he he was not going to beat the Dow just. Terrific. Race. But he's just a beautiful moving horse and he's he's he's fast. You know we wanted to camp it W. got zero. On third graph that early in the year and was very impressive. So we know he's fat stores I just said, no, it was when Derby or for four months layoff. So like I said, this is a different derby. Did you not This is not I'm not gonNA say are for others for deserve each it's not our derby. And I think he got throw all the rules out and this looking for his workout out saying. READY TO RUN It I I've seen it and and yeah I it. Is, absolutely. It's impressive. There's no doubt My Final Derby. Yeah, definitely I. I know it's the it's the weirdest scenario I mean every and honestly, it doesn't even Steve have to be. Measured on Derby Traditional lead-up terms you know saying Oh you know the It's September but I that that doesn't even have to apply here. It's it's just. It just runs counter to every you know every training and and the handicapping maximum that you would apply to walk. A race at this time of year, I mean forget that it's you know that it's at Churchill and it's Derby whatever forget that it. Okay. It September fifth and these are three year olds I think of it. As you know a race like the travers, you know late late summer be re write the Moose on the plight. Yeah it's just. This race. Use My favorite Hebrew words I'm for blunted. I don't know what to make of it. I don't know choices to put anywhere I do know the top three. Are. Extremely impressive honoring P is this coming into this race again, his voice was coming into one mile sixteenth raisch in which he should have one and I don't even know how much he got out of the race. In thirteen weeks for watching the his last two workouts, the way he's been striding out way he galloped out with that monster strive his and John sheriffs were again or a trainer having tremendous amount of respect for. Kind of move there might up. At the top three. So once you start going to numbers four or five, eighteen, whatever. Yourself. If, you can be pissed Aloi, can you beat Kochman Ray if you can be the tax rate? Can you beat this law if you can be both of those for some you can you beat honore P. I mean he's three top courses that you have to be up to save money style. In fact, there's a lot of horses in this race that have the same binding style. It's going to be a very contentious pace. When you think of oil is in here, all horses that like to be close new traffic's going to be up there to lead or Fenwick is got to be on the lead. Thousand Words has got to be up here the lead. King Year Mos gotTA BE CLOSE TO. The, Pace. So. If you're looking for a horse, my my my main, my main theory in worse race, you'd be looking for a long shot. Don't pick a washer with the same running styles favorites. you know you look at onion yeah. Onion Secretary Stola race from how did prove out the secretary and took the lead early in you know and then gave it up and then came on again but he was like supports the time. But? Jim Dandy came from last in the forest. The one to win by eight lengths. Because he loved the racetrack. So I'm just saying that. If you're going to try and beat a big favourite or or two or three big favorites. Find the horse that has a completely different in style in divorce I could steal from them. Or can take advantage of a contentious pace and pick up the pieces late, which is more likely was like you know like what what Bridgestone did. You know he just sat back there and waited and. Basically, try and pick up a piece of it and race fell right into his lap when all the wouldn't pay contentious upfront. Now I don't see anybody wiring this field I almost you offensive winning wire-to-wire wire with all enforces breathing down his neck and sitting right within striking distance the whole race. So you gotta look from horses coming from off the pace whether there I don't think they're good enough to win but we've seen page collapse before. We saw what happened with American faeroe and went head and head. Keen ice was not in the same classes American federal. But if you're can try and beat like that got to be the watchword completely different running style. So now you're going to start looking at the behind horses and. Good ones sit up. Brilliant but. On any given day. Horse like enforceable or. Day or Even tax rate. Had shown that they could have a good. You know a good closing kicks. match player GAM coming off a good workout. So I mean that's if you're GONNA look to be disorder with a bomb i. think that's what you have to look. You have to look for us. That's just going to hold the gold forty, five, forty, six. And the and they just get tired. It's a it's a crazy. Derby IT'S A. It's a really good race with a Lotta horses run in September. I said, well, the Kentucky Derby rules are thrown out and that's what makes the Derby Fun you go by the rules. Now out the Apollo curse all those years I can win with two starts. When was the no with three starts no ruskin window and there's no win that you go by history there's no history it's time. Now, I'm Jan justified justify prove that histories don even in every first Saturday may thirty. But there's so many horses You know you you could look at improving horses. Like I said, I saw such a major difference in attachment rate is less start. North I've been waiting for all year. And I contact. Dale Romans, I said what's the deal with EMI said he's really really matured and that's slept. You WanNa see. She show things she had never shown before he never showed a turn of foot like he showed on the turn. He never showed that he could change leads and he changed smoothly in this race. And finished well, clear. Third Horse she was running strongly the hallway galloped couch chromium got based and winter. So, all these things you look at it and say, look you know, maybe got to look for horse. That's. Just getting good right now. So a while to develop look at like Karaoke Carol, what he's accomplished coming six months later. To run the race that he did in the Peter. Pan. Of his first start in six months, and then to finish second in the traffic going a mile and a quarter. In the second start? Six months layoff, and now we've got. To pull clear of Max Player, who's a stone closer and looks like he was gonna get check incoming distressing carol. Opened up and finished ahead of them. So we've only seen the tip of the iceberg with that horse. I, don't know if he's good enough to beat these sources but. Can't underestimate the. Sources. So. I gave you eight horses very. Well listen that's that's part of that's part and parcel of what we you know. What the the exercises here is is the you know try to understand the. You know the attributes of everybody involved and you know anticipate how they Can Perform under these under these settings, and that's one of the things that made the travers. So instrumental in in. You know added. Anointment of Tis the law because it was, it was in fact, the mile and a quarter. You got the unique scenario that you know you. You don't have to wonder how he's GonNa Fair as opposed to you know still a number of these that you haven't gone Ten furlongs so that part. Is An added I to me it's it's It's actually I. Mean to me it was very eye-opening the way he he wanted and and as somebody who is a speed handicapper and relies on on on figs as a big part, my head capping method. That you know that kind of showed that he's one of those horses where the FIG does not the you know the whole story and so to be cognizant of just how he did it and that's the that's sort of the gleaned that that is the law brings the. Louisville. He's also trying to accomplish something never been done before. To win back the back mylan quarter races coming into the TURBIE. That's you know I mean. We know he can run a mile and a quarter, but can you come back for weeks later and win a mile and a quarter again we don't know we have no idea. I mean as we know the only don't Derby winner that. Had previously wanted amount of quarter was can you narrow that was Venezuela? Starts After that before win the Kentucky Derby. The three starts he ran, you wanted amount of quarter we're sixty four ones. Anyone amount as and then he came to America you know. Broaden was shocking result since Jim Dandy. But But again, who come into play again with Venezuela and trainings look at the judge that one areas with him. I mean. He's Not and train. Horses. But. Here we have a horse that's going from amount of quarter race in right into the dirty. So you know we'll have to see what happens. You know you look at it I like attachment rate. With the job that Tom Jewelry is done with him. That horses sell into what he's done with that horse and and look at the winning streak he's on. Route one win after another getting stronger, every race and It's very rare that you're going to say. That A. Horse moves up. In, the Kentucky Derby. Based on what he did against the phillies. But into switch. Did in the Alabama true your. Beat, out to get the SELL EP to hell. The. Graphics. And well clear third in that race. You know. So I mean when when that's what she did to a really good field in the Alabama I'm saying I like that moves attachment ratings further. Actually attachment reading I mean not collector. You. Know So. It's it's it's a crazy irby. You know it's it's a fun race to back because anything can happen. But. You don't WanNa. Go to cloud because nobody I. don't care how good. You are trust me you have no clue you don't. have no clue what's going on here. Unless you're going to bed. Unless you think kids superstar which Daily Mail. Very well may be. And you just you know put everything on him. But know it's really monkey around with find some horses to put underneath him. In and an art collector. Well since we since we started the conversation and you launched into the discussion with a workout I I gotta get I gotta get some oppression told said that I was going to bring it up with you and that was the work that Roger Outfield orchestrated for Cheryl's right when at and I said you'll appreciate this too I said wherever dickey small is he's watching that and and he and broad were were together laugh at it and say look at look what they're doing. Let's just like me. That's always even more confusion. Adobe two starts. Never been over Mount Sixteenth never been on his dirt. Horse that's got absolutely blazing speed. And he's done unbelievable. Unbelievable I mean his his maiden races something. tippy hold. The way he won even secretaries win by nearly as much, but he was so well in hand. You know then he comes back with a fifty seven workout. My God how fast this source. But again, you break from quarter. No I mean. If you ready to go. Mano Quarter. Carl handicapping. Then racing his change even more dramatically than we think it has. Worsened wanted. To starts. And never having been on the dirt before then the way she's Handicapping and racing as we know, it's gone down the drain. It's gone forever. Anything. That's. I mean this is. Colin ambitious spot. Think he's he's the worst. You would take our sources. The life brings up mile. Kentucky Derby. and. But just. Your I mean everybody that you're having questions about its in part because you know of the opportunity afforded by the date I mean I it just. Just the way the way. Of the way, things went this this year this. Year. We have no art collector in that we would have no character how you know all bunch of is in there that we wouldn't We wouldn't have in the base. which is really interesting to see. What happened here I mean it's all I know is that it's going to be. It's got to be a contentious base. You'RE GONNA be a lot of go to Washington wannabe within two or three to lead. Gagging me making a move lot of horses can be making a move at the same time. And don't forget to. By the way we got a screen group of. Jockeys. novas reo no nowhere Ortiz brothers no Flavian product. That doesn't that doesn't bother me I know. You but I'm just saying different. Something different. We've never seen before where a lot. Of the. A lot of top jockeys. Running I mean she a lot of jockeys getting the chance. You know listen to Jackie. Look Panucci you. Several writers hear that haven't had the experience in in. This magnitude. I guess I mean there's always the the Derby's funny that way Right I mean we we've seen it before. We. Certainly. Would stupid stood alley. So it you know listen we saw I'll have another look what getting the triple Crown Chaki nobody heard of. Can. Happen. Yeah. There's it's a when you look the when you look through the Derby Charts there, there's it's always flecked with. With with regional riders with journeymen. That popped in and came in that part of it doesn't. Have here, just opened I just opened up. The last media guide and It split up to page. In fact, I got something to ask you about it. It turned to two, thousand, six and seven with Barbara and then street sense and you look down. Obviously I Edgar One one is first Ramon was second. And I think that might have been ramones. Third, maybe third second or third Derby that point Fernando Hora. Road. Cornelio Velasquez had a mount that year in fact with for for For Barclay showing up all. Your Memory I. AM wondering about the tag he always stuck with writers that no other trains really would use a big horse. And Broccoli stuck with Cornelia Velazquez two years put him on all his best courses. You only look and he stuck with them and most of the trains never use Cornelio Velasquez top forces but Barkley always Stuck with him. I remember the time get good is going up on I'll have another to work out. And afterwards, he went back and told his agent in time. He says we have no shot of ever writing. This he's A. Good. He goes we came vk comes within one little injury of sweeping triple clown. You never know. Mario Mario Pino, the next year Calvin with his first Derby win and then Mario Piano was second Mark Gigiri Road one lane road storm in May. Did. There's always. Peanut butter tremendous. Ray, she's got beat by A. trip. Always Been How many people Stuart Elliott? Just. Got His five thousandth win last week. Now so that's that's something. You I to remind these journeyman guys like Tony Black. You know Tony Blackburn. Keep going going to small venues note. Riding the Carts Day in and day out and. To kill he do it for love of the game barely. Run the right way you're writing. Jockey rides there by several thousand winners at Charlestown and now near Penn National. Obviously they do it for living but to do it that long and keep going. You gotTA. Do It for the love of it. You really do. You just get a thrill just they they want to. They want to go out to as many times as possible to lost when when, when sideline. And exactly and and some just. I mean I think it's a terrific. But you know he's never been money elite. But he's always like in this like in the second tier but. Respectable. Now. He winds up on the big favorite like that. That's great. How old is he? He's only he's only been around the only like twenty, four, twenty, five, just these these young he's. You know each billion that far be behind the. Forties in the Castellanos and the resolve she's. Right behind them. But you know but they get they get more of the bigger amounts so. You know. Credit Barclay tags guide them stuck with him. And wanting to talk about speak although he has not any knockout. telegraphing is she's run three negative numbers. He's about as consistent as you could get. I mean John John Lewis going into Derby. That's a negative number New York traffic who've been negative three quarters. So. It's not like somebody. Going, to think at this time of the year, somebody would run a negative. Three or something I mean look at look at the numbers means run. She's she's other worlds. Numbers negative three and three quarters, and he's crazy numbers. But. You don't building want Derby and people look at the buyer numbers are. Running triple digit number well. You don't WanNa who one hundred and ten buyer number in in in February or March doll keys to peak on Derby Day one big number under day long as you show a progression. Forces that are progressing actually going into the race. Agreed. Mentioned about attachment rate. I think that. He's he's he's really discovered himself and matured. If you look at. His third graph numbers you're talking you keep saying attachment rate an. Actor. Now you are talking attachment right? Because you've you've conflated the two of them three times. Yeah I know but Yeah. Well, give me but start with them some. Tax Rate. Four three quarters of four four and a half or five and a half. So something's going on with that of course. It's not the same Moore's. Well we we know, and in fact I've I've exchanged some notes today and things back and forth with Dale. We're going to have dale next week it and. Churchill. He he was confident. You'll before the source even was moving into stakes company. He he had. He had nice things to say I, we talked I think before the Gotham and when he was going to send them up and He he is. He is a a fun type to think about as. Explore the exotic type candidates you know the There there will be a clunk up there. By the way if you know Dale Look. Pretty low profile. Dale's always talking sources up. The source is GonNa Horse is GonNa Win Derby. Do that. He's keeping a low profile I think he knows shit non something. Here you WANNA jinx. WanNa, show too much of emotion I like that. You're a good point actually, and maybe you know on that standpoint you certainly. You certainly can't You can't be beaten your chest as a world beater when when you got the kinds of You know the kinds of leaders in the clubhouse that that this field is already has already created. When when Baffert and sheriffs are you know? Sitting back, looking up at tag jury that that says something that itself. I know that's When you really think about it find a way. When you look at the Look at the trainers. And Jockeys. That when you're saying that the two big Derby favorites, I've been by many Franko and Brian Enders. That's tells you enough right there. You gotTa Love It. Tyler gap Leone Gets Traffic. And by the way I didn't I didn't while we should mention this too and because there's a little bit of of down the road. looking around corners going on with mcpeek because he named Gaffes Leone to Swiss skydiver to come back out of the Alabama win. And I got you I think the obvious that people immediately recognized was the chatter about. A successful oaks performance leading into a potential preakness run and. then. They're potentially and you know depending on on our collectors performance on Saturday the potential where you lose Brian Hernandez Junior. To Art Collector so I'm sure Bryan is. You know I'm sure that was a winston call to. Lose. The opportunity on Swiss skydiver when it had been sort of stated or at least suggested that he would retain the mount. Beyond. No no no. No but I can they up Cherie understands in the meantime it's for for Tyler Gaffney. And Matt Music or it's. It's it's quite an inherited the mount. Yeah listen. You know it's it's it's crazy. We got all these. All these jockeys, scenarios and I'm. Just. Don't the way these horses are coming up to the race. Screen scenarios there as well and how this is going to be run. Whatever you think is Derby. You GotTa admit fascinating. Yeah of course it is. How is it nine? And by the way use that also as an aside Steve Keep trying to slip in some of the news and items from. The last twenty, four hours Darren, and KK K coming Kirstein sent out yesterday. The possible and probables for the rest of the the week for Derby Week steaks, and if you haven't had a chance to look ahead, you know some things are really shaping up including course the Pat Day mile with not just you know some of the horses that like Russia that that might bypass Derby four the fact they mile but Eco town say Zan Liam's pride Shash shake me up Dale, of course, we're still waiting for an official attachment rate were detained Shan from both this Bill Maher. South, bend for the PAT a mile. another you know Steve Asmussen has been the recipient of a couple of Nice ready made three roles to say the least Solomon from Don. Adam and. Max. Player The American turf has got the likes of Fancy Liquor Mike Maker course and makers also going to send field pass Karlovac Ereza his program he's got quite a few horses actually. spread around over the two Particularly Friday and Saturday. But he's got king. Theo they go steve there's a routing trusting the. Big. News. There you go. and Sukhoi from Mike Tomlinson Danzi. The distaff Turf Mile People are going to be excited about where daddy is legend newspaper of Record Bo, call and Julie Foxtrot from Brad Cox very nice and so on and so forth. The other great ones the the Derby City distaff where you know most of the the big names in in. The Fillion Mayor Sprint Division are gonNA come together surrogate. He empress wildwoods, beauty, Scott, Becker Sally's Kirwin for Dale MEA. Mischief who dances every dance bells the one. For the our favorite Gorman Neo Passan Really good. If you haven't looked at this, you're gonNA see monoploy girl in the LAS ran. And so forth, she's a Julian GonNa face off their Interesting. Very, very nice meals are coming together I. mean she runs she runs every time. Looks. Like we got looks like the two year old races actually seem to have. At least half a dozen already committed Yeah, I'm just going through the Edgewood, which is always one of our favorites of the three year old fillies both turf and dirt sharing is going to show up in the Edgewood Dale and and for. Aaron wellness than the eclipse team. Off The chart. Also. Another crazy aspect is that. Column thing that I, I mean I just love the fact that not Nyerere put. The would back to the mound a quarter. We have the old days when. This race. Determined the champion the right every year. And the fact that. The six. Sixteen Times that the the I sixteen times that would was running a mile and a quarter. Thirteen of the winners of in the hall of fame. I mean it was incredible. And it went thirty years it when he moved when they changed your two. Mile. Then they. moved to Saratoga. And became as some people have called the Whitney light, which is basically what it was sort of lost its place and it's identity. And now it's back on a quarter. Now I'm not saying it's going to be championship deciding race on the. Classic now and I used to love the Gold Cup and stuff like that. but had it back the of is so great and whoever thought that the would would would ever compete with Kentucky Derby I mean. So it's loosening. Run on the same day, the Kentucky Derby. Right. Yeah. Well, let's go back. Go back to the days. You know when you know with a passer winning new and and going back to the the great showdowns. The Big Three and fifty nine with. Saudi clinching horse in the air in Damascus buck this to figure arts and Letters. Clinton horses the beating no double. The, you know and then and then you had also winning in his his battles with gun bone and Mongo and and Jaipur all those years I mean every year every year they the decided decided. Horses the year. And then they changed it then they changed the distance. And he started running. At a mile an as in a mile and a half. Years. Later, they brought it back tomorrow and a quarter for three years. And who wins the years. Seattle slew affirmed in. Three years yeah and then, and then they switch to the game again, they started running a mile and a half and all these other this ensues and then two years back. To amount of quarter two years and win those two years, Alysheba and easy goer both. I mean it's amazing every every time. All the pain wins the race. So. There's there's a decent. The feels like there's a nice field coming together as well forward with tacitus and. More yeah. I would love to Bonneville go and the obvious sitting on the Gold Cup but. Listen really wanted to go cup. I would love I would love to see. Stay. In. Saratoga. You know he wanted to travelers and then try for the quarter would and then have a nice little layoff going into the Breeders Cup classic. Instead of the layoff layoff. Now. And then coming back and four weeks in the Breeders Cup. Brian I'm sure they'll go I'm. Going to go up, I would love to see him go against tacitus again. Rematch of the travelers. This by the way another worse. W surprises fastest yeah. He's. Soaking and that's the Tacitus they've been waiting to do since you know he was under Derby trail. And You know have such hard luck in his races if he's putting it all together. Now, this is a very talented worse. You could be right up there with all the top horses for championship on. Time here is over you never know. The way this year the way this year's gone and Running to go cup. I heard Baffert say that at the same time I mean it's so different although he's shipped you know what he has been shipping the horses despite the I guess that part of that's the relationship he's got with with terra novas and the ability to send into their barn and Jimmy goes wherever you know Jimmy Barnes shows up and and ten smart. that. Yeah. That well, then stay home that the thing is thing that the thing that's That's amazing I. mean. You know to come and then return then come back return, and then now she'll be she'll. I think they even said that she would come home after this after oaks and then come back for the the Keeneland for Breeders Cup at it, and that's four. That's Holland door for I mean the way he used to move blind luck around rubber back no no, but he can pop out. Incredible. Thing about blind bucks every time he shipped the responding she one. And we'll be back home again. But I mean he should back and forth nine times. But you got member to. At the same thing with. Him. Now after the Belmont, you went back to California. flew to Mama's back to California. What went wrong. Saratoga back to California and then to. Qinglin. Well the the Saratoga trip for those that forget that. Zaia deserves the credit. For pushing to run in the travers because I I don't think Baffert to me that he he he went along but. Then he wasn't going to countermand publicly, but he didn't need did not want to go and Ziad was really. The fact. That the revealed with me, I mean where he said if he's right ill go and that. That was very generous. How could you not want to run a triple crown winning travis I mean. You know and one of these passes so easily. But the main. I think the main problems that DC should've kept him in Santa Monica San Antonio. There's going back. Sure he thought he was going to be able to talk Ah. He's probably. Not Running. FITS RAP I. Know, what you know what the honestly in the in the great in the great scheme of things when you look back on it it, it ends up being. Just. A great part of Saratoga racing history now. beat it. It's it's almost it's almost better frankly that he got be. Back then. Remember. Two baths bathroom wave thinking at the time. had. Not Been, doing well in Saratoga. You WanNa. Run gravelly well. Getting beat all the time going there. He was not doing well Toga. Well there was that whole thing at fact eighty surly used the beat up on on. This was one of his favorite things to say about the the lunacy of suggesting that the people saying Oh baffert can't win in a thug and it was it was just it was kind of. Just, latching onto a a insignificant, a statistically insignificant set of performances. Just didn't. He he had plenty. I could've sworn I was there when point given won the travers. Right here my my side office. That was. That was like before that was like fourteen years before. Back, when dinosaurs roamed the earth that well listen. They won the Alabama by nine lengths. Back in those days did well, it's our job then he went into a funk. For several years and you know he he ship toys, he shipped a bunch of horses. Every state stabled is you would send the he sent a small screen here. You can't two. Year olds here. I remember you had that really fast oddities. Absolutely. Yeah. This hour Toda. But just didn't do well and I think he was kind of snake bitten. You had gotten his drivers. He's Haskell win. You know he he got his Max hostile relations. And he was content probably bring him back and not have to deal with South Olga and only ship one time back to Breeders Cup. But like you said, he shipped back to California probably. Yeah. You not realize. was that adamant about running the travelers? And then of course is. Having those people come out to watch him Gallup. Before the race. And all those people by the way anyone's bombers like two minute licking I mean we. Have a camera on them. The only had the Jockey Cam. Have Have Cameron's helmet. And you can see it sources flying. That was way way too much today before race. I WanNa make things that got beat that's. That's crap out of the race before because you need to put on a show in front of those people. Thousands of people came to watch Gal. Agree what you shouldn't you know the world can be. The day before. Steve I agree with you. It's all part of South Santo. Exactly and speaking of Saratoga Laura. We're GONNA end on Saratoga Lor. Segment and mark is doing me a favor and pulling up a the audio. We're GONNA play a race. As the break and then Seth Merrill join us on the other side and we'll spend the last twenty five minutes with south. there is an anniversary today, SA- of South Steve and. I had the chart and now now the charge disappears from my desk, my Ariza's. Twenty years ago today. And it's A. It's a travers anniversary. That you'll. Appreciate. Years ago today twenty years ago today August twenty sixth two thousand. The first set of yellow and blue silks. Them in short order the fairly short order. For. Carl Asker Jim Daf`al.. And for whatever reasons they've unshared it's 's win in the travers. Hook Camera. That race why the for whatever reason Albert degrade. This out the great, that race one and unshaved. Sometimes. Cried pester wire nip the. My. By Cook Quest Album Graceland has evolved out that day in unjaded when Shane sellers up that day I remember that very well, I covered that race. So we're GONNA LISTEN TO DARKEN and I didn't want A, lot of of travers anniversaries the last ten days two weeks because you know for a long time, travers was the third Saturday. Of the month and when back when it was a four week me and Then when we expanded, then it pushed to the to the last Saturday. in in August So this is one of the last dates that I can. There's others but we're GONNA get busy and. By. Now I wanted to get this in its twenty years. Since. He was totally exhausted. You know. Trying to Dante was a big big long striding horse and he was like by the time, he got the sixteen Paul he was exhausted the fall off the horse and he just pushed himself. So harden pushed so hard because it looked like he was hanging in the stretch and he just clip pushing and pushing him I can't wait the as call again it's been a long time. Well and and my my. One of my points in doing this is to just kind of revitalize this this particular edition of the travers in people's minds because for whatever reason, it doesn't get brought up that much and. When you look back in these last twenty years of travers the there were a series of just insanely tight finishes. Razi crazy and actually Yuki also you know but I could fold in well, the the other one, the other one with towel and NASCAR with the street sense feeding Mambo in Seattle was was. Forget the infamous grasshopper grasshopper. That's right. That's right. Actually what it? Was it. The that's part of that was part of the. It's funny that was part of the. Code of honor you know the elusive farish travers but. The Fleet Express one by a nostril we did he nobody one. We. Both doers. Thirty one shot in the. Golden Ticket and you say wrong take down ticket. And an Alpha unbelievable. Let's listen Steve. Then I'll say thank you now and I appreciate have fun tomorrow We're looking forward to hearing about the conversation you're doing the. On. WHAT THEY And Mike Beach. He's talking about the old days and. Actually talking about the future to it's racing we're going to be we're going to the conference room, the Hall of fame and National Museum of racing and. Improve. The. chataway. Well I. Wish I guess they're not gonNA tape. It which I don't understand but No we we had mentioned the. Brian. So he says if there's of the around to look into it, but I don't know if that's going to happen or not I, it's as easy. It's as easy as taken us a phone and hitting record hitting video and set it up and it could be motionless. Who cares it doesn't have to be a three camera shoot. Unbelievable. Anyway. Here it is from twenty years ago this afternoon. And what time? Let's see what time did this race go off looking at this chart the. Five fifteen. Five fifteen that well, it was race nine of a of an of a ten race card probably. So it was you know back when dinosaurs roamed the earth. Let's. Let's listen to Tom Durkin shaded, Shane Sellers Albert, the great and choppy Chevenez the two thousand travers. And they're all. In, the travers country coast bricks alertly from the inside. Here's Albert, the great from his far outside post up to short lead by us for the first time and commendable is right up there with him Then it's Milwaukee brewers back in the third dixie. Union is fourth as the field moves into the clubhouse turn. Then farther back on shaded is running fifth of the outside cruel six followed by postponed than country coast and impeachment settles at the back of the pack commendable as the leader. Commendable as the leader and he leads by to the opening quarter went and twenty four and one fifth seconds and Pat. Day Sends commendable out to lead by two and a half lengths Albert the greatest running along in second and dixie unions to his inside as they make the turn into the backstretch run three links back to beloit brew along with Coo rule another four back to unshaved galloping along about nine links from fairly temperate pace here the opening half mile. Eight to five seconds and well off that pace is postponed. He's better than a dozen links from it. Now, country coast and impeachment tremendous margin of makeup. He's almost twenty links from the leaders and the field moves into the fire turn now and that there goes Albert the great who took the lead just at the half-mile pole it is Albert the great the leaders around the far turn for the inside. It's Sticks Union commendable is now back running in third on the outside it's cool. Racing fourth then Milwaukee Brew, he'll be forced wide on shaded. His coming with his run now and he's lengthening his stars approach the top of the stretch. Then farther back with postponed as the field turns Home Albert the great in front ahead on shaded as right in his throat latch as they come to the midstretch marker commendable on the outside Third Dixie Unionist fourth one furlong ago Alberto. Great unwavering determination under hustling HMO's hummy outside on shaded giving his best with a final lunge as they come down to the line. Here's the finish on shaded has nipped Albert that great what's a last gasp at the line? There it is. I just put it up on. Twitter for everybody that wants to watch it and see it You know up close really good. It's funny. There's there's two there's a couple of versions of the two thousand travers one has got better video but not great audio. So I use the one with the better audio. Thanks to mark at a great job and you know you look through and and Seth Marrow's joining us. You look through this group and you heard you know most of those names I think almost everybody except for country coast got a call and this was a shaded and Shane sellers. And of course, CARL NASCAR from Mr Apple. Albert the Great. Choppy for Nick and tracing farmer the familiar black jacket with the White diamond commendable and the. Unlikely, season that was authored by the Belmont with a one of those Belmont winters that was a surprise but was a solid thirty or nine to one pat day for Dwayne and va Lewis's. How `Bout Mandela come in with the Dixie Union went favored that day five to two and Alex police coming to visit for Mandela and Diamond Day. And the rest of that field impeachment who I look over here I have. I have got the black. Number, six. Bib. Was it was actually was it impeachment or was it? Maybe it wasn't impeachment I. Got I got to think about this. For Minute I've got I've got the bid the walking BIB. From Belmont. Wasn't impeachment. I can't remember now I gotta think about this Actually. No, there it is. It was postponed there. He is Scotty show offer postponed. It was it was postponed BIB. The the groom that came over I don't even know I didn't know how I got it. But I do habit and I'm pretty sure it was from postpones effort in the in the Belmont, Edgar Road for Scotty and. MILWAUKEE. Brew. ENDED UP SEVENTH IN HERE AT FOUR TO ONE Third Choice on shaded. For a horse that is forgotten a little bit among travers winners, he was seventy two he was second choice. And I think that's forgotten. Albert. The great who probably has got the loftier. Reputation. In People's minds. He was eight to one. And the rest of the field the walkie brew is mentioned and of course, for. Mr Stronach Tino afterward and country. Coast Thomas. Love to ask Amos next time when you see. Amos. Say to him. BIC was talking about country coast. marlins Saint Julian. And then cruel. For. Moore and Mike Smith wrote was last than really didn't run great at eleven to two seth. Marrow you. Probably I'm sure you were there right for. Albert the Great. I'm sure I was. I don't remember it distinctly but I'm I'm sure I was I mean my favorite travers goes back to Let's seventy-nine General Assembly. When he set the track record I bet smart that day who was a clear second ran a great race but there was no beat General Assembly that day off off track. I this morning I for whatever reason I don't even know how. I thought of this but I. I looked up I said what travers were run on. August. Twenty sex. Then when you go through the dates, it reminded me to seth that. The period when we were a four week, you know the the season was four weeks the August place to be twenty, four race days, and all of those drivers were run on the third. Saturday. Of August. So everything you know everything is the the the fifth sixteenth to the twentieth. You know in that Range Fifteen to the twenty i. Just, pulled up as they talked about, I just pulled up nineteen seventy drivers from the eighteenth of August. You're absolutely right. And it's only in our our recent. You know the last couple of decades really that there. You know late in the late in the year This morning in fact, I says he's you know we're all kind of lamenting Saratoga. It's almost over back in the day we would run halfway via two weeks left. That's true. And you know and I didn't live here at the time for the for the for the four week. meet. But it I just remember you know when we would come on Saturday come for the weekend and my buddy and I and My My. I how many years? How many years was it? Five weeks a couple of bright at the couple of seasons. Yeah I. Never Remember that stuff people bring it up but I'm always wrong when I guess but it It, kind of inch inch. Say At least a couple. Yeah, and then they very quickly then they very quickly. went to six weeks that and that's the. The the format that that sticks. In my memory and you have appreciated last night and actually, I can even tell you somewhat maybe when that transition happened. Based on those dates. because. The cutoff looks like one, thousand, nine, hundred, ninety, five was the last. Would've looks like the last Yes was the last of the Third Saturdays. Was Was Definitely Thunder Gulch ninety five. And then in ninety six wills way. It was on the twenty fourth. And then so that's where the. The transition sort of happened. Ninety six. was when the meet expanded. Yeah. We had dinner last night with the Haskins thanks Steve asking for the fun visit Haskins end the Friedberg last night at the to Rio and. Some of those, some of the same themes that you and I were hitting on a nightspots but with with Steve Joan and of course, Joan early on in her career worked for an IRA and so she was here every summer. And so Stephen and Joan were. Listening off, you know Apocryphal restaurant joints you know from a bygone era Long. Gone Yeah the Mother Goldschmidt type places Oh. Yes. There was a throwback A. Man That's been thaw. I'd have to look up that. That Yeah. Now you're really going back. Had that Steve on the show what four five years ago where he in some old photos from from his first trip up there and there was some in that. There were some some remember when spots. He's got well, he's got you know instamatic. Photographs you know from. From the he's got Kodak Brownie photos that took. That he trots around actually very funny glass glass plates. Well, and the member the remember the Well the Kodak instamatic that had the the four flash the CUBE OF FLASH. And it would take way. Yeah. That's right. TURN TURN AROUND YEAH As you as you? Hit little lever to turn the film the Yeah. The FLASH THEY'LL CUBE WITH TURN. That's right. They brought up Chicken Sadi's. which which was also an institution and Th. there. There's places you know the Ash Grove. Has Been. Brought up a lot lately when you take twenty nine and you start the head out of town toward Galloway. and it sits there on the right and I. I told them. I saw somebody I saw some real estate types that were poking around and earlier. Because I go to the. Out there in. In Milton. And is my credit union and. I thought maybe it looked like there might be some activity ever years ago Ashcroft you ever go out there. I'm not I. Remember it. I'm not sure I ever went or not, but I remember yeah. And there was this other one out there. I'm trying to think there was another one out there to Galloway area to that was really popular and I now coming up with the name. Well there's there's the village, there's village pizzeria. It's still there I mean the which is really good the the is took me out there and that's also favorite shook in Allison's that's that's one of their favorite joints and you you know it's a good good twenty, eighteen, twenty minutes heading out out of Saratoga twenty nine. Yeah, I went there this winter for the first time. Very good. Well and and look who's coming to the rescue Leslie Naf who got like an institutional memory she's mentioning trade winds. which is now panzers and the country gentlemen, and then the country gentlemen become the weathervane right. which which eventually, what became red lobster? On, route nine. I I didn't I didn't I don't think that is being read I only think of it as being the weathervane being the the seafood joint as the weather Vane Oh maybe that's okay. Maybe I'm conflating the to it was like it was it was you know it was it aspired to be red lobster. Failed miserably but I I never liked the place my my you know I feel bad. I don't want to insult our friends Steve Grabowski but but the Stephen Barbara and nick re Basque's loved. They they loved weathervane. I'm not a big. I'm not a huge seafood guy so that that So I'm bad guy to drag to see food joints. Cock, and bull was the place I was thinking can look at you and. I also got to get there's. And I was late to this party really other than the rafters I never had gone out to all these restaurants that are out on the lake, and of course, cliffs the cliffs I knew about that I've never been and apparently now there's someplace new that has taken over cliffs that that people are talking about. Why No, the lake local redid their what five, fifteen they they've done a a massive. Redo, it's a nice spot now out on the lake but that was the lake local clips are not. I don't know soon. You're you're funny because you got your joints because I i. For years used to ask me about winslow's, and then you finally went. Yes and and it was worth the recommendation I'm a Turkey Guy I. Love how Turkey Turkey Dinner Turkey, Sandwich Times a week. Yeah finally made it over. There it is. It is worth the trip of your Turkey person while you know you know that you know who had a decent dot surkey sandwich when when I mean I think I think people's memory of the old Saratoga Diner has been completely destroyed as it sat there for fifteen years rotting but there was a time where the Saratoga. Diner was was a pretty good pretty good place. If. You couldn't get a reservation anywhere else. Yes I have eaten hot Turkey and there obviously years ago. About city that's tied into the rafters we used to go there late night after the raptors and have that. So I, I don't even remember what had so. Well here's a vote and my man Joe Horn Job Joe's putting in a plug for for Joe. Collins. on route nine where. Yep and I remember Joe Collins and then then it was Jack Dylan's for for those couple of years and it was very good but then the, but then it it you know like so many places at Saratoga is funny there. There's they come in they go hobbs they come in they go. It is very funny because I used to have the office for a long time the video production company right on Broadway and I would see the places come and go and it was also funny because and it's changed now but maybe the past ten years or so but I was on. You know the Caroline Street side of Broadway and my officer was on the Corner Carolina and Broadway opposite side of the street man it was tough to make a restaurant. You'd see come and go. There was a couple of spots over there. That was just you see somebody come in and you you could kinda count the days that one side of the street just never worked out now stadiums over there others over there it's a it's a different situation now but yeah, for years they would and then one year there was an Italian joy. That they were. Down the street from my office, I kind of waited for it, and it just took long enough that they didn't get open until maybe last three days of the track and it was kind of like Oh that bad timing and sure enough they lasted about six months and they were because you have to you have to get to make it to the racing season and make your money, and then you're you're. Kind of plug in the rest, and again I think that's also changed to Saratoga bustling up. Now that that's changed, it used to be these restaurants would make their dough during the racing season and then kind of plugging along the rest of the year and this restaurant that opened up the last three days in a meet. You kind of do that. That's not GonNa work and sure enough six months later they're gone. Well and thanks here's my main skip Dickstein and skip is giving us the low down on the old cliffs on the lake. It's now Carson's Woodside Tavern and. Yeah mentioned that the Public House. A Lot. Carson's just down the road that skipper said you should go around. Yeah. Now Okay I'm going to try because I've gotten a couple of recommendations that well in the Haskins and Rhoda and Avi last night said, what's the name? What's the name and I couldn't remember so. For them that the for Rhodesian Verona and Avi and Steven Joan. There you go. Carson's Woodside, tavern all right. We we manage to kill fifteen minutes which. is just ridiculous how `bout. And and I'm Bobby I'm answering you a question simultaneously Bobby Voca I will send will put up the list of probables for the oaks and Derby. undercard momentarily I will also give everybody I'm I'm started a write up the Indiana sequence and it starts the pick five carryover sequence starts at five or four, twelve, eastern four, twelve eastern. So give me an hour and by about one o'clock because I gotta go to the track today Over the next hour, I WILL PUT UP MY INDIANA pick five because it it's I think it's going to be worth going after, and it's a tricky enough sequence particularly that first leg Saf let's get some quick hits from you as I reach for my Saratoga Action. I'll mention speaking derby over to Ecuador posted some pre PP's contenders last night. So people want to get to they can do that as well. AMERICA'S A. Race four three interesting in my top pick his splendid news scratch that first time Sarah thought it was going to be seeing a four to one. But I know move up with old article by constitution I I don't know whether the as a whole particularly now scratchy the other horse would be a price on hold article second time starter by constitution I love the constitution first-time starters which when didn't live up to that. But when a mile on the grass down golf, most of the pursers from constitution had been winning on the dirt. So I think cut back to a dirt strength for sappy Joseph Fold Article in the fourth raise a little bit interesting. How about the steak they've got a I actually, very nice steak today the Rony have named for Pat. Mahoney and of course, the Mahoney family synonymous with with. Service. To the industry in the tote side for decades upon decades and pat over fifty years working for the association and they're going five and a half on the grass. I thought this was a good group. Yeah well, the ten scratch dot at the ten in the now eight, nine and three. But I had the top before the Wesley Ward runner who they tried a couple of races over in Europe last year one in France, then went to glorious goodwood didn't run as well off sense of the comeback in July. So July nine, thousand, nine, hundred, July, twenty, twenty was laid off but the comeback was good enough to think this is going to be tough in here this afternoon Jack and no I draw line through that last race horses better than that. But also tough competitor sang for George. Weaver. And Bonaventure bonaventure locally. Bache now Dan Collins based in Saratoga now, and I know there's some local people involved in the bonaventure horses as well. So like the root for them and you don't want to think off the turf race last time maybe an interesting course at a price as well. Well and at twelve to one. I'm I'm very willing to. Play around old chestnut and would like to see Mark Cassie, get a breakthrough win and you know he's had horses run. Well, he's had nine seconds. Of course in including got stormy with the the head lifter, the other day but old chestnut, for Mrs, Weber. The Nice spice down cold coming out of the quick call has to you know, turn away turn to side but twelve to one. Okay. I'm game How about one more? nine, three thought I had a price. Let me yeah nine hundred, hundred like it ten, eight, three and seven I. Remember Again I'm not sure there's a couple of morning line prices I'm not disputing I'm just not sure which way they'll go necessarily but six to one on the morning line or Wesley Ward. I'm not thrilled with cutbacks on the turf necessarily, but this with a couple of good five. Grace's Donna Gulfstream that we're okay to start the career. So it's been a little longer recently and showing some speed think this might be interesting at a price Gap Leon I'm. GonNa add ten, eight, three, and seven in the night. The as A good race could be. A good race I I'm I'm GONNA go I don't know what what what is sweet by four to one sweet by and by Tony Vlachos had limited starter the boy Tony. Tony is winless on the year. How is that possible? Oh my God. He's only out twenty one starters but. Yikes sweet by by who ran well in the caress. and. Second off the layoff. And also off of a bullet coming into this. Yeah sweet by advised. Let's get. Let's get Tony off the duck. Couldn't get Chad horses but I want with the longer one with catcher bid on the recently but if looks week by by render. Workout does jump off the page a little bit. Seth Marrow jumps off the page he jumped off the leaderboard. On Sunday in the Saratoga contest, you got register by five o'clock on Saturdays and face off against Mr Summer casual himself. You better you can move up the leaderboard that was my only third try. So I kind of faded two weeks ago this week jumped up late and I'm going to try to move up the leaderboard this weekend. Watch your wallets, folks these coming for your money. The face of Goatee Seth? Merrill. On your twitter and I'll see you over there. Seth Barrow Everybody A. Rapid three hours boy and I didn't get I I. Oh. I Oh, Chris into heart. We'll get Chris Tomorrow along with. 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GSMC Football Podcast Episode 665: Overreaction Tuesday

GSMC Football Podcast

1:37:51 hr | 7 months ago

GSMC Football Podcast Episode 665: Overreaction Tuesday

"Keep yourself in the loop of everything football under golden state media concepts, football podcast latest news on and off the field. Be It College Football Ten Sec Big Twelve PAC twelve acc to the NFL with got you covered listen to golden state media concepts football podcasts. ooh. This is the GSM see football podcast brought to you by GMC. PODCAST network. You know who it is. I am your host cave on his army. Coven, ax you live from the bedroom of my house. Got My microphone got my computer. Got My IPAD GOT MY TV on in front of me game seven nugget sell. Clippers about come on. It's GonNa. Be a good one. It's going to be doozy guess what week one is in the books Football is back and we dated through one and boy was it a good one It was a good one eagles fans are worried jets fans are living. broncos fans feel hopeless. Brady critics have the pitchforks out already. Cardinal Scans are scattered cowboys. Fans are Delusional Falcons fans are discouraged. seahawks fans are saying Kook Russell? Cook. And Ravens fans are saying. Were right back where we were last year. Lions fans are saying, are you kidding me this again? Packers fans are saying, yes Aaron Rodgers. Yes. Thirty two teams have played. The emotions are high the overreaction boxes in front of me right here. Ready to pull out overreaction by overreaction. Half. The teams are one. No. While the other sixteen are heading to the drawing board to find out what went wrong and to try and avoid the dreaded. Oh, into you know it's so funny. It's like when you lose game one first of all. We Week. What is so it's funny in so many ways right I fall victim of this all the time you play one game there's fifteen more weeks to go. But for some reason, we lose week ward and we feel like the world is falling apart we feel like the houses collapsing. It always happens trust me. I've been there done that happened to me again this week. So we always feel like that's why I said I got the overreactions Ronnie. I see everyone rear overreacting on twitter I see everyone overreacting all over the place here. Are you kidding me de'andre swift couldn't catch the ball the lions lose to trubisky. And the bears in a terrible terrible fourth quarter comeback that aligns lap. I. Get it now lives fans feels like they're season's over trust me. I've been there done that in that boat. It it's why I say the overreaction boxes here, and this is the fun thing though because this is what you have to do because over week one is such a huge over reaction. You have to take a step, take a deep breath, take a step back and this where my job comes in. You have to navigate what's real and what's not. That's what I'm here to do for you. And that's what we're going to do after. Beautiful Week of football. You have to look at it and say, Hey. This happened. Is this about to see all season or is this week one in a in a season where we haven't had a preseason where we haven't been gained ready? This is the first game that all these. Players got to play. Coaches got to coach. All the new coaches lost. Every single one with the new coach besides Ron Rivera loss like every single team that that had a new coach this season and I told you guys, it's GonNa be rough out of the gate. It's GONNA be rough out of the gate of especially for those teams that had new coaches but Ron Rivera pulled through. So you know. It's a different season and what you guys think about the crowd noise by the way. You know the fake crowd noise coming in from from Fox and. From this and CVS I wasn't a fan of it. I'M NOT GONNA lie. I would have just rather hurt the broadcasters talk I felt that and I think a lot of it had to do with me thinking like I knew that the crowd was was there. So that was a big part of it because every time it happened I knew that this is fake and it just sounds so fake on. So I think my brain kept telling me that I was not a fan of the fake crowds. I wasn't and you know it is what it is a look. I'm going to take football over no football or football with no crowd of crowd over no football at all like I'm not complaining but would've been awesome to see that Sunday night game cowboys opening up. Come s-o-f-i stadium where the ranch are opening it up for the first time like with with its sold out next Monday night, the saints are going down to Las Vegas Raiders in that Beautiful Dole on the Strip. Like it would have been awesome to see fans that. But Hey, it is what it is. We're GONNA WE'RE GONNA truck through this. The best thing is we had no covert positive tests going into the weekend. Now this is days get interesting with Cova after teams are flying back from. You know Seattle came from Seattle all the way to Atlanta now go back to Seattle these teams played each other they hit each other what coaches were on the sidelines. What's going to now? Now the NFL said they're going to do testing every day. So we're GONNA see. How many positives came from this? Do we get an outbreak was is there now break you know that that's what we're gonNA find out. But what we're GONNA do for our show today and what you guys to get used to this because our Tuesday show is going to be very similar. Always this this week will be different because we wanted a lot of different things you know like I said overreaction and stuff like that. But for the most part, we're GONNA do a bunch of different segments all throughout me one and. All. Throughout Tuesday's podcasts, what I needed, what we'll do is We're going to dive into the biggest storylines. They can't came out of the Games. Obviously right that the biggest ones you know we're not gonNA have time to break down every game, but the big games, the big story lines that happened within the games or even not even a big game but something that happened in that game that that's how we're going to break this down. Every Tuesday showed we're GONNA give out. So. What that is is these game balls can go to an individual an individual player they can go to an entire team, they can go to a coach. It's going to someone that one the weekend pretty much in my opinion. How how did they win the weekend? Why did they win the weekend? We'll explain it will give him the game ball for does that make sense? After that, we're going to do that segment actually will pretty much. Be the same within the waterboy segment and what the waterboy segment is in a shoutout smart willpower from me come up with this and he had the idea of the waterboy reward is the opposite of the game went war the gay. Ball. Baltimore off. So it goes to the player or team or coach that really just stunk it up. I mean I mean back it could be an entire TV could be a player could be a coach for for making bad calls or player for doing something that costed the team, a game or a bonehead moved something like that. The waterboy war because you should have just been given out the water you screwed up you know it's fun. We're not trying to be hard. It's just fun. It's fun obsolete will do gambles will waterboy award and that's something we're going to do every single Tuesday after a great weekend football right on after that. We'll dive into the Monday night games where we got lucky we had to Monday night games. How many of you guys stayed off for that second one game who Steven Stephen Dowse key What in the world happened him and I was mad because he caused me some money. I had the titans minus three and he goes over here in boxes like three field goals and extra point and Like cub tight should ran away with that game but that's a whole different ballgame. It wasn't that also I mean that was awesome. Being able to see seven o'clock Monday night game, and then just flipping their right to that ten o'clock Monday night game. Wish we could get that every single week. So we'll break down to the Monday night game look into the all fourteen played all give you guys a good breakdown of that. What happened? then. What we're GONNA do is. We're going to look at the Thursday game coming up gay got a big game, this Thursday Cincinnati Bengals, the battle Ohio Cincinnati bengals against Cleveland Browns will dive into that game since the next show comes out on, Saturday so we will have time to. To dive into it. Then what we'll do is we'll recap it on Saturday before we break down all the Sunday games We're we're GONNA talk about one team that. Speaking of reaction, you guys might think this is an overreaction, but it's not. That is in a must win situation already after week one now listen that sounds crazy usually. Okay. Usually week one, even if you get blown out the doors. It's week one. Now we can see trends of okay. This might be a tough season for this team. This team just had a flu gain. We can see stuff like that but. and things can turn around, but we never want to say like clearly this is an overreaction. But this I do not believe this and I'm GonNa, give you guys why and who that one team is a why if they don't win their week two game, they are in for a law law season. Off. So I will give you that in just a minute of a while Jason Tatum try to hit a three one, zero, six, one, six going into overtime you missed the three game. One of the East finals is living up to the high right now, this is a good one. So. After that, after we break down the Thursday night game, you guys the team that is a must win position are ready for week. One doubted probably take us on a we're. GonNa go to Tom. Brady. Tom Brady, listen I. Get it. One bad game the pitchforks already. WanNa. Come out right that's how it is. I see it I can't believe some of you. Some of you Boston fans are sitting up there happy which is ridiculous that guy's given everything you're franchise but. We're going to break into it. Look he had a bad game had a bad game. Is this a science for more to come? We'll talk we'll talk more about that. And they were GONNA play game to in the show called panic or patients, panic or patients so. What that is. After week one as I said, it's it's a huge overreaction right? If your team played that you feel like all hope is lost if your team played good, you feel like you have a chance to win the super. Bowl. I I've been on both sides of the ball as a fan right. So now what we will do is we're going to play a game of panic or patients where I'm going to name out some teams. That had a rough week one. Or just lost week one on and we're going to. Let you know if it's time to panic or if it's okay to a half some patients, it's week one it's a fluke or oh my oh my this might come panic time painted town by becoming already. So we'll dive into that. For quarter number four to wrap it up that should be real fun game that will do so stick with us there but. Every single Tuesday we are going to start the show this way. Always, we're always gonNA start the show. The Tuesday's show the Tuesday episode by handing out what I like to call the win of the week. The winner of the week is the best win of the week in my is obviously. And I can get yours reactions always please hit me on twitter at cable and underscore sports. Let me know your wins of the week. Every Sunday night every Monday night give me your wins of the week. Who Do you think deserve the one of the week edge I might just pick your team if it's like if I like what you're talking about. And you are know all shops you out for sure. So what I'm GonNa do those I'm going to pick the winner of the week. And why it's gotta be big deal can't just be oldest team one. Okay. It's got to be a big big deal. So this week. For the week came down between two teams, the Arizona Cardinals and the Washington football team, and while the cardinals had a huge win I mean I don't know if you guys were watching that game, it was the four o'clock game but they went into San Francisco and I know it's different. There weren't any fans there but still it's a division game. It's week one against the reigning in division NFC champions. And the corals gave it to. The cardinals gave it to him. They cuyler. Murray put on show John Hopkins showed that he can ball and he clearly a. He clearly. Hasn't lost a step. At he's clearly excited to be in a new location. Cliff Kingsbury and and Kyle Maria just on the same page that defense was looked looked much better than last year. Look the cardinals they they. They deserve some praise but. They're not going to get the winner this week because nobody. Deserves the winner of the week. More than the Washington football. Team. Washington football team, you get the winner of the week. And the reason why they get the winner of the week is after the. Insane the tumultuous. season. That they'd had. You know did everything that's going on with the owner. And then they give a new head coach, Ron Rivera whoever gloves and everyone looks like a you know this is GonNa be the guy the next thing I know they find out that he has cancer? Yes. Go through chemotherapy. The guys on the sidelines coaching to the point where he has to get IV shots at halftime just to be able to finish the game, they're down seventeen zero at halftime. A He talks it out I mean. It's remarkable. He takes the IV shaw there got seventeen when they come back and that team wins the game for their coach. That's a that's a movie right there. You can't write something like that up. For for washing in Washington played good that that defensive line might be the best. I mean, it really might have taken over San Francisco as the best defensive line. Really I know Pittsburgh looked really good on Monday night to we'll get into that but that defensive line and that all that looks good. They they looked really good weight Haskins? You know he was a bit shaky but he did enough for them to win. On the run game was all right it wasn't great. People were high to Antonio Gibson, but none of that matters. What matters is they were down seventeen excuse me with seventeen seven, not seventeen year. They're down seventeen seven and they came out in the second half and they didn't Allow Eagles offense that is pretty good to score one point the entire second half. And they go on to win twenty seven to seventeen in the first ever game as the Washington football team in the first ever game as Ron Rivera as the head coach. And what that man's been through what this team has gone through. They deserve the first ever win of the Week Award On the SEC football podcast. Great stuff. Really really great. Win for the Washington football team. Now let's give out some game balls are I I've got to game balls to give out this week. Now again, every week, it could be different there could be one there could be two, there could be three there'd be five if it's that good of a week I got balls to get out this week I era rogers, who Aaron Rodgers, he you know. He played so good that he doubt that he has already making me doubt my pick of the Vikings to win the NFC north now I'm not going to walk that back. I'm going to hold it to but. He played so good in Minnesota and again I know there's no fan. So it's a little bit different but still in Minnesota a team that has never in the vikings in their entire history has never given up forty three points in a season over a team that prides themselves on defense they gave up forty three points, Aaron Rodgers with thirty to forty, four, three, hundred, sixty, four yards and four touchdowns. He was on a mission. He clearly showed to everyone that that area author Jordan Love was stupid and this is what I'm GonNa do every single game of the season. To crew how dumb it was and I truly feel that's what he went out to prove davante Adams fourteen catches for one hundred, fifty, six yards, two touchdowns I mean it was incredible. It was incredible. What? did Air Rogers easily earns the game ball of the week for that second game ball goes to Mitchell trubisky now. A lot of you guys might say why? Why the heck should trubisky or a game ball like this let me tell you something. All season. That kid. Has had to hear crap about how bad pick it was including for. Me would in specially in that Chicago media, he's had to hear over and over how bad of pick that was. How they screwed that pickup like crazy. How that picture should never happen All this stuff how he's a bust of a pig and you know what he did they are in, they're going into the fourth quarter. They're going into the fourth quarter and they're down twenty, three, six, six points through four three quarters. Every did already coming out trubisky can't do anything on offense all they've done score six points against a average lines defense at best and he pops off in the fourth quarter for twenty one points and lead his team to a miraculous twenty seven twenty-three comeback in week one. That shows guts. I mean what? He was able to do so much pressure on him. All three of those three quarters he had to just keep taking how bad how bad this has to be much everyone's GonNa be ripping or our heads off my my. All that stuff and he put it behind him and he came out and scored three touchdowns to will his team to victory you can't get much net game ball of the week goes to Mitchell trubisky. No doubt about it. Now, we're before I give out the Waterboy Goi award of the week. I do want to give you guys a couple runners up for the waterboy of the week because we're just GONNA, give out one waterboy the week each week. That is if we give one out your some weeks, no one might do anything. Bad. Carson, Wentz, who was my guy? I Talk I talk very highly about you guys know that. You guys know that a lot. He disappointed he really disappointed me on Sunday on. Happy. That Ron Rivera got that win happy that Washington got that win. They deserve that when they played hard for that when they earned that win. And I did it. The Eagles are in a tough situation already after week one, they have more injuries than probably every other team combined. The. Never. Seen A team this injure heading into week two of the football season never seen it. It's it's it's crazy. It's crazy. So they're going into week to their entire offensive lines pretty much banged up their receivers are banged up. Their defensive line is, banged up. There banged up all over the place and. He came out of the gates slogging. It's still going up seventeen zero, and then things just fell apart after that and and he was a disappointment he played bad against the terrible Washington, secondary? And he was close to getting this water going the we've award but I had to give it to the entire Indianapolis. Colts, team. The Indianapolis Colts were favored by eight points against the Jacksonville Jaguars. A team that is supposed to be taking a team that is traded away every good player they have. and. They went down Jacksonville and they don't it up to the point where they loss. To the Jacksonville Jaguars Philip. BLURT rivers looked awful. He looked on comfortable more than MAC got her all of our prayers out his Achilles injury and that's the worst. But. The the colts, there's no excuse no excuse at all. They couldn't score more than three points in the second half. That's all they scored three points in the entire second, half a team that has traded away every single good defensive player they have. The whole. Entire Indianapolis Colts deserve the Waterboy of the week award I mean come on. Terrible terrible. Terrible. Terrible props to Jacksonville props to those players props to Garner Mitch you the Front Office. The owner has done everything. They can to trade away everyone to take and the players came, and this is why said it's so hard to take in the NFL see that the players came out and said, hey do what you want. We're GONNA ball though and they ball to the point where they will themselves through a victory and I'll tell you what garments she looks good. He can sing that ball so. But. The Indianapolis Colts Waterboy of the week award. No doubt about it. This is the G SNC football podcast. I'm your boy cave on Zombie. We're GONNA take a quick break. When we come back, we will do the Monday night football reactions. Giants fans are hurting steelers fans are happy. Broncos, fans what in the world is going on with your coach and Titans fans boy did you get lucky after what your kicker did that night? We'll be right back to debate. Listen, up, sports bettors, this is Bryce and here to tell you about our favorite sports book and that's Bet US football basketball and baseball all back and that means it's time to get down your bits. We only endorse one sportsbook and that is bet US dot com. Why you ask bet us is the pioneer and online betting with more than twenty five years in the Biz. You need a sportsbook from and longevity and you need to know that you're going to get paid. That's right. Bryce. You need a source book that offers everything including live betting. 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When you need fantasy help there's just one showed up. Don't forget to like on facebook and follow them on twitter visit GS MC podcast dot com for more INFO. Welcome back. This is the GSM see football podcast I your host syllabi. Welcome welcome. Welcome after week one. Of the NFL regular season boy was it a doozy Boy, was it a doozy. I loved it. I loved every single bit of it. We had zero positive cova tests. It was great i. mean I like I. said I am not all for the whole crowd noise thing but you gotta take it how it is. You gotta take it how it is right and We just did the segment two into in segment one as I told you. We're GONNA do game balls of the week after every Tuesday in the waterboy ward of the week and it's all fun and Games you know we're not really all these players. They're good enough to make the NFL they're not water boys. It's just it's just a fun way to. Just say, Hey, who didn't show up in look that's my job I. Praise you when you do good and I criticize you when you do that, right? or it's it's overreaction. It's overreaction Tuesday. It's week one. We're all going through it. If you're team won, you think you're GONNA win Super Bowl. If your team lost just WanNa Bury your head in the pillow and scream and not wake up until next Sunday right and then if you go to then you got a real problem then you got a real real problem. Let's not worry about that. Let's think about that as we go we'll dive into that on Saturday. You know we gave the entirely Annapolis Colts team that the waterboard the week warded look. It's just frank right? You gotTA. Be Better. You gotta be better. You Lose Twenty, seven twenty it's not like you were down like the Falcons were where they had to throw the ball over and over and over to try and get back in. You Know Matt Ryan had throw the ball fifty, four times thirty he what he did well, four hundred, fifty yards, two touchdowns, but they had to do that to get back in. The colts were leading for the majority of this game. There's no reason why Philip rivers should be throwing the ball forty six times at his age. He shouldn't be doing. This is a run first offense. You have the biggest hog molly's of people in front of you in that offensive line, it's the best offensive line in the entire NFL. You need to run that ball and get it more neck went down. You drafted Jonathan Taylor the second round what you don't think he's ready. You draft him in the second round. I don't care if he's not ready to put him in the game give nineteen highs the ball. Philip rivers does not need to be throwing the ball forty six times against the Jaguars team. If you're down by fourteen, fifteen, sixteen, seventeen, eighteen, like the veterans were did you have to ditch the wrong game? There's no reason why the colts needed to ditch the run game it was poor on everyone the defense was bad. The offense was bad. The play calling was bad, should've allowed it should have allowed it to happen. Now Jacksonville was the only team that allowed fades in their stadium on Sunday the only team that did it the broncos On, their Monday night, they ended up allowing five hundred fans. So so they did allow couple to, but but the Jacksonville they were I think. A want to say they had twenty percent fans of and we'll see what happens from. Now we'll see a lot of if an outbreak happens or anything, and we'll see what happens on week two as this changes because you remember a lot of teams they were going to see how things go week one majority of teams. We're GONNA see how things go the first two weeks and then revisit the whole fans in the stands in it. We'll see what happens from there but. But but you know my game bowls Aaron Rodgers, just just lit up the show. He just lit up the show him. Russell Wilson are easily hidden Russell Wilson. Lamar Jackson are easily right there for MVP after one week and it's one week but boy did Russell. Wilson. Put on a show that he wanted to win vp this year. I mean guys look the Falcons at my falcons we were unfortunately we don't have very good defense, but this is the for that's probably the best football game I've ever seen Russell Wilson play. Know why because p Carroll took the handcuffs off p Carroll said from the start go take off do your Cook Russell Wilson. We don't ever see P care allow Russell Wilson. Do that it's the fourth quarter when it's time to ice the game. Right. We'll ever see that happen. I mean think about this. Seattle only ran the ball twenty times. SEATTLE seahawks, they usually rebel thirty forty times a game. They ran it twenty times. That's not Seattle football. But what they did on Sunday that should be Seattle football because Wilson wants that he wants the onus on him, he wants to throw the ball thirty five times a game. Because he can and when they unleashed him on Sunday and I saw right from the get-go when they came out in that first quarter went up fourteen to three on us. I said Oh. No Oh no Russell Wilson P carols allowing Russell Wilson through the one thing that we were not ready for and Matt Ryan said after the game. And you know who else did something big for the Seattle Team Jamal Jamal Adams and let me tell you guys you guys remember and I always say look if I'm wrong wrong if I'm right I'm right and I'm GonNa tell it both ways. This off season with the seahawks gave up two first round picks. I said that it's not worth that I said that you should never give up two first round picks per safety because the safety doesn't impact the game enough. Week one, I was completely wrong Jamal Adams was all over the field. There wasn't one time when one of our players got tackled on offense and Jamal Adams wasn't there. He led the team with twelve tackles. He had a sack. He had two point, five two and a half tackles for loss eight solo tackles two QB hits I, mean the man was all over the field and I promise you. If he wasn't there this game, the seahawks still probably win but this game would have been much closer much closer. But, he was we just we couldn't do anything until the in will we had to play catch up because of how good Jamal Adams was. And that was special. That was really really special. Ed and you know I still am sticking by without give up two first round picks but I'll tell you what the way he played. On Sunday night. Seattle understood what they're doing and I get why they did if they're gonNA use him that way I get why he did. So let's get into the Monday night reactions. Now, we had to really good games, you know. I don't know about you guys, but we'll see a big back on the field. I loved it I couple drives he looked shaky but then he started playing really good I mean the steelers are really good team just like I predicted look at the big big stay healthy this team. That will be in the playoffs and this is a team that will compete to win the AFC. There's no doubt about that. Did you see what that defense did the saquon Barkley last night saquon Barkley is by far one of the best running backs in the league by four top three. You don't not even a debate they allowed that have six rushing yards six rushing yards. How is that possible for SAKE ONE WE'RE TALKING? Here. Six yours that defense is going to be end up one of the Best Leagues I actually think it's going to end up the best defense in the entire NFL they've been had that offense rolling he was picking all over that that fueled deontay Johnson Juju Smith. Schuster looked back. I mean I James Connor got feel bad for him. He just can't stay healthy James Cameron can not stay healthy bitty Snell came in and stepped up. You know the steelers are one of those teams that usually play down to their competition I. Don't know why but they always do. Last night they came out ready to roll and it was great to see what big did any they played exactly how picture look if big Ben stays healthy just like I predicted, this team is going to be a force a force. In the AFC. So really really liked the way to stores came out week one after a whole year. No football for big bid. It was great to see him out there out there playing well, and that defense is special. Now let's go to the Vikings look I know many. Vikings fans are down today. But I took way more positives away from last night the negatives. Look my brother-in-law is Matt. I've talked about a couple times on this show. He, you know he's I was talking to him last night and he was so down because he was just shocked what how bad it Saquon Barkley was and I was telling him if he knows football really well, we we talk football time but I was telling you because sometimes you know like when when it's my team, you know it's your team played. You don't really look at it how others look at it because you're just pissed off why this didn't happen. And I was like look. The steelers clearly created a game plan from the GEICO. To Stop Saquon Barkley, they came out from the start and said, we are not going to let Saquon Barkley, beat us if Daniel Jones beats us did so be a we're not going to allow saquon Barkley to do it that was their plan and when you have those type of players up front when you have those types of linebackers like Devon, Bush that plan works. That plan really really works and that's what happened and that's why he had fifteen carries for six yards. But that's why Daniel Jones was able to have. Four carries for twenty two yards because they weren't spying on. Daniel Jones, they were spying on Saquon Barkley. They were letting him touch that ball. Without getting hit right away. Point four yards a carry average point four. SAQUON will bounce back. SAQUON will be one of the best running backs in the entire league like he is he will back bounce back. I promise. You're not going to be playing against this type of defense. Every single week if you were, you'd go sixteen because this defense is special. Any still average ten yards a catch. I mean safe. One had six catches, sixty yards like and this is the thing. This is the main positive. Jones looked good. Now that offensive line is the problem. Dave gettleman has screwed up with not protecting Daniel Jones. He has that offensive line is a problem, but with Daniel Jones had time. Would he had time to step up in the pocket? You can see the progress there. You can see that he clearly has ability to be a good quarterback in this league. Now is Dave Gentlemen to get him to that point where he can have time lie is no because we've seen what? It has done, but if there is a way to get an offensive line around Daniel, Jones this team is a good team Darius slated. was looking like Aj. Green in his prime out there. And against saquon Barkley will not have a game like that. Again, that was the steelers game player from the GEICO. They said if we lose, we're going down with Daniel Jones beating us, but we're not gonna let that Saquon Barkley, guy. beat us. and. That's why giants fans you can't overreact to how sake one plane he's GonNa come out next week against the bears and he's going to have a hundred your game I can guarantee it. What sake one does. So I take more positives away in that in that loss I mean a co- doubt Dan you Jones had one awful turnover in the red zone. But that's ripe to get down that red zone. That was beautiful. That was veteran quarterback type stuff. Nineteen. Drive, down the whole field taking time off the clock. That's what you want to see in your quarterback. Then he made a rookie mistake and those are the things that he's going to have to clean up. But from what we saw week one to what we saw towards the end of the giants. Game last year of giants games last year. Daniel Jones has improved. and. He's a quarterback that can step back at. He can throw the ball thirty times game if he asked you he just he needs protection. He needs protection just like every other quarterback in the league young or old. If you don't have protection in the NFL, you're not doing anything. Because there's too many athletes. There's too many good guys on the other side of that line. So you know the steelers there who I thought they were there really really good football team that if stars bounce their way, they can be a real threat come out of the AFC of course that means been stay healthy and the giants you know the giants look better than I thought, and that's a positive now when we go to that night game. The. Tennessee titans go to Denver. I was disappointed in in the broncos. Look I wasn't high on the broncos anyway as I said I wanNA see more from drew law. But he has a lot of weapons. Saulat wasn't out there so that so that that's a problem for sure and losing von Miller said down going to hurt and that's why pick the titans to win this game because. I knew they win because they? It was just there was too much going on on that Bronco side the titans we're gonNA come in prepared. They were gonNA come in ready and they were. And they were ready. Their kicker was not their kicker was a problem. If it wasn't for him making that final kick, he would've had to find his way home because I guarantee you Mike Fraser would not have allowed him to get on the bus or on the on the plane. But lucky for him. He made that kick to win the gate. But you know what really impressed me With the with the titans last night. Ryan Tannehill. Ryan. Tannehill. Looks Good. Through for two, hundred, forty, nine yards, two touchdowns. Eighty. Eighty. Dare Henry thirty one carries hundred sixteen yards. Corey Davis had finally core Davis had big big game can keep that going all season that would be some special. We'd love to see that. Number five pick overall who's just kind of looked like a bus up until on. But that's a great way for him to start at. So you know I like I said I don't have high hopes to the. broncos. I think they can be around seven nine. Eight, hundred, eighteen but the titans were impressing the titans were very impressive their defense look good. They caused a lot of turnovers. They caused two fumbles. That that's what you WanNa see out of Mike variable defense in that old school offense and. Tannehill looked good and that was the big question more coming into the titans and I think that Tannehill look good which is good now for the broncos. Side of things what in the heck is Vic Fangio doing that's the problem here. You can't go home with three timeouts in your pocket still. You gotTA call a timeout. and His thinking was that the kickers been so bad. It's Dowse Katie Hill ended up just missing another kick and maybe they'll weighed you cannot think like this. Yeah. The kicker was terrible. But this is an NFL kicker we're talking about he bounced back we're talking about super bowl winning kicker actually. WHO's hit a bunch of clutch kicks for the Patriots like you have to call those timeouts if you use those timeouts. Chance that you give your your quarterback amid. Time left with the ball. And anything can happen. So. So the VIC has got to be better a lot of coaches this week to be better and it's week one. That's why you don't overreact week one. It's week one there there's times and and and you worked through those things. Now a positive that I that I do really liked from. The the. The the broncos is no fan. I think that a lot of people thought no fan would have a big rookie year he he did decent but his mom. His self, his game one of his sophomore year really good five catches on six targets eighty one yards and a touchdown sixteen point, two yards a catch like that is that's what you WanNa see. especially fantasy players you know but broncos fans you wanna see that that's good and Jerry. Judy I know he had a couple of drops. He had four drops last night I think or three drafts last night, which is tough but he's a rookie. You know he's a rookie out that's going to happen. You got you have to take those go on but did he show his route running ability? to He, show what he can do as a route runner that was something. That was impressive. I really love to see watch steer Judah watching him in college and I think he he put on a bit of a show last night when he got the ball and was able to do something with that i. mean he averaged a fourteen yard catch, which is great. That's big time on they have Hamilton's now I know they I mean they have they have weapons now. I know that. Philip Lindsay got her, and that that's definitely one day but it's not you know we don't want anyone her and we hoping get back soon. But Melvin Gordon's is a baller. He's a baller he showed that he can fifteen carry seventy yards, five point, two yards and. A touchdown twenty five yard was his longest run that that's good work right there you vote Melvin. Gordon twenty balls. Twenty. Touches a game he's running one hundred plus yards for touchdown herself. Knowing Gordon looked good. He looked the part drew lock. All right. He had some bubbly fumbling issues. He fumbled it twice luckily didn't lose any of those fumbles. He got to recover of, but you had twenty two for thirty, three, two, hundred, sixteen yards in touchdown so. Last night, it was really all about a couple of things the defense for all four these teams ended their quarterbacks right there quarterbacks all had a question more. Daniel Jones and drew lock both going into their second year. Everyone wants to know how they're gonNA look how are they gonNA do for the most part I felt that Daniel Jones looked very good. He had two interceptions that that that he has to clear up of course, but he showed that he can strike the ball when he has time. He showed me can strike the ball drew lock. He showed glimpses well, now I think to lock. Did, it you over through a lot of receivers and he didn't show as much but drew lock can be a good quarterback in this league he it's just GonNa take time with Ryan Tannehill. You know he had that really good season last year towards the end of it but the question was then he got paid, was he gonNA be able to keep that up and he started off this this by showing he can are he threw the ball forty three times. When do we expect Ryan? Tannehill? Throw the ball forty three times. We. If anything. We expect there Henry to run the ball forty three times Tanto throw at ten or fifteen, right but he threw it forty three times to two touchdowns. Zero interceptions. Eight eighty point one, quarterback rating ninety, seven, point nine, nine, you know. Eighty point one QBR nine point nine rating like he showed that he can take the low now isn't going to be something that he's going to be able to do throughout the season that's the question mark and then Big Ben we all go big bit has the talent the question was. He hasn't played in a year. He's older candy comeback and stay healthy. Any. Did you looks great again, it's week. One Noble overreactions even on the positive side. But he looked good. elbows. Stay good. That's what have to see. I, know he was ice in it in. That's normal you rail. But when you go through surgery like that you ice revo when you don't go through surgery and you're an older quarterback. I liked what I saw definitely out of out of the steelers the most then I would say the tight incident, I would say the giants. and. Then I would say the broncos out of most impressive from one one to four. All four these teams can end up having good years. It's just based on how you have your expectation as Fanny's. Cowboys fans they're delusional. They they set their expectations too hot and I get as fans of we'll get into that actually in a bit. But as fans, it's Hor not sue. You gotTa scituate expectations, right steelers, fans they should have high expectations because if everything clicks and Briana big stay healthy, they can go far. They can go real far. And we'll see what happens from here. This is the GMC football podcast I'm your host cave on Zombie. We're GONNA take a quick break when we come back. It is time. To talk about that team that needs to start worry because if they lose game two. Things are GONNA go downhill real quick and also. Brady didn't have a good game. The pitchforks are all are already out. Is this a sign for things to come? We'll dive into it right after this. Check out the show that's built on the M e. from UFC extreme cage biting. They got the fights covered check out the GSM see MMA podcast get the latest news on past or upcoming fights. 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I thought the Look football is is such a hard sport to play and to be able to not have any serious contact and they go straight into week one of a real full contact full force game. It's hard and I thought the play was going to be bad but the play was awesome. The plane was really really good for the majority of the time like I said, my only complaint was the crowd news and that's you know. That's so mid issue when you think about it because I, it's football football's great. I'll take football day. So but the play was great very impressed with the play I love the lot of the play a lot of really good games overall a couple of blow outs here and there but most of the games were pretty good and it came down to the fourth quarter for awesome of them. So that was awesome. Remember coming up next segment we are going GonNa do a little bit of patients or. Panic for all the teams, not all teams but the teams that lost teams that lost big loss. In the final seconds is it panic time is patients time stay tune because I am going to go through that and your team just might be on there. So you've been having down couple days maybe I can give you some good advice. Tell you to have some patients or maybe I'm GONNA you some bad advice but you can come back at me on twitter and tell me I'm wrong tell me I'm wrong. Tell me why you're team should have patients or tell me why you think that your team needs to panic because I'll tell you what I've got a lot of Falcons fans reaching out to me that are panicking. Panicky because they didn't like what they saw. And they think that a lot of the of Falcons fans don't think that Dan Quench should've came back in the first place I disagree I think that he is earned another year that this year all but I do think that if things go bad he'll be gone this year and and and I hope not because I like him the players like him and we'll see what happens we we definitely will on I'll tell you one one team that you need to keep your eyes on and that's there's on cardinals there's those cardinals are good. Kyle Murray is special. Cuyler Murray is who he is someone that I can not take my eyes off the TV when he is playing ob. So so really watch that team and see how they progress because that was a huge week one upset against the against the four nine and I told you guys, we did our best debts. What did I tell you that the cardinals you came on here I said the cardinals plus seven. Now I didn't have the Moxie to say, Hey, let's let's fed the cardinals outright I didn't have that if you did props to you props to you. But hopefully when it got that plus seventy cash in on that which which is nice I should have got the. We got the raiders right I told you that I was really wrong my falcons. That's the last time. I'll bet on thousand's jinxed us of I got the. Cardinals right. I got the raiders right and I should've got titans right but gestalt ski really just let me down on that if you've got the at plus. One. Or plus four and half or a pickup earlier in the week that you cashed in. But if you got him at plus three like near minus three like me, then you ended up losing that bent. So I want to dive into something here though and it's time to talk about the Cleveland Browns. The Cleveland Browns. Loss. To Baltimore. Thirty eight to six. Thirty eight to six in week one against the division opponent. That's pitiful. That is absolutely pitiful. And it's time to release start to panic. I know look you might sound I might sound crazy week one. And maybe I am crazy. Maybe they turn around and they go on five game win streak here but. This team has too much talent to put up points. So listen let let me just start here. Okay I have Sunday ticket right I have I had NFL Sunday ticket for all of you guys that don't know Nfl Sunday ticket is something you can give through direct TV you can actually stream it as well. I'm pretty sure of is much cheaper but I get it through direct, TV, and what that is, you can watch every single game. Every single game out there you can get the red zone channel, the fantasy channel, and you can watch every single game out there. So on what I do is I always have the Falcons game on the main TV the big TV I I, keep the volume on that. So I can listen to the broadcasters and then on my IPAD I put on the red zone, and while I see things happening in the Red Zone that I wanNA click to. Go to a game. A game looks good or if a team has been driving for awhile I'll go to a game or nothing going on I'll just keep it on the red zone. So I like to do that. So I can FOC- Falcons but also check what's going on check my fantasy all that stuff. So I sold the browns were getting destroyed and I said, you know what? Let me tune into this game real quick, and let me watch. Let me see what in the world is going on with Baker. Mayfield at this team. So so I turned it on. And I got really lucky I. Mean I got lucky because when I turned it on. It was perfect timing. You know why? Because Baker had the ball, the browns have the ball. And something caught my eye right away. So I started watching. I noticed that and listen I I'm not I'm not a GM or anything like that. I'm not a scout. No I. Just look and watch what I see what I knew just based on breaking down Games. Know I I've done scouting classes I have. Friends that play football I I never played myself but I understand the INS and outs of the game. Again I'm no scout him, no Jim ob but but I watched it and I've watched it very in depth and I went through film and broken down film and all that stuff. So I noticed. That Baker Mayfield. Doesn't know how to do a correct three step drop. Now listen for those that don't know three step drop is a three step drop. You basically get a snap your behind the Senate right? It's when you're you're new down, not kneel down but you're your scrunch down behind the center and you take the ball like that. You just you say hike and then you. Take your steps you take your three steps stack one, two, three you're kind of like backward shuffling, and then you plant your foot and and and get rid of the ball rip the ball right you're supposed to do with like you could do it in your sleep. If you're an NFL Poe, quarterback, these things you learn as a little kid on its fundamental so. You're supposed to be very comfortable with it. So you take the stat from your quarterback back shuffled one, two, three plant that foot. Rip It right. that. Might sound confusing but quarterbacks have been doing this since they were eight years old I'm not kidding okay. They they've been doing it since they were. Little. Kids. So you take your three steps back. You Plan Your Foot and you sling. Baker was literally leaping back. So he wasn't walking back, he was like leaping back to get distance from his the line of scrimmage from his offensive line like immediately like he was almost scared that. He was about to get rush in two seconds and that might not be his fault. Offensive Line has been awful in the past years. But he's pretty much wobbly back skipping back. And Look. He is now been in the League for three years. This is his third year, and this is his third coach. I mean, that's okay. I don't know I don't care how good you are if you have three coaches in three years. You're going to be set up to be successful. It's going to be tough. When, you have three coaches telling you three different things and I'm sure that's what's been happening. And it looks like he has forgotten his basic fundamentals. And that is huge in the NFL as a quarterback, your fundamentals, your full work there everything everything. Your arm strength can be average if you have good for work if you have good fundamentals. Good awareness you can be starting quarterback innate. He hasn't had any consistency on being taught how to be a professional quarterback. So what's happening is he thinking all the time? He's not trusting himself. That's why he skipping back because he's thinking about the defensive linemen that's about to come wreck in because he's seen it happen to him too many times before. You what you're supposed to do your your practice, your grind, you practice practice practice practice so that when you get into a game, you don't think about it. You just do it. When I sold him taking that three step drop the way he did it told me that bakeries clearly in his head. He's not doing his practice. He's not doing his fundamentals he staking and when you're thinking, you make mistakes because the gain happened. So fast eappen. So fast it's there's too much going on the defence is moving. There's beat bodies flying at you. There's offensive lineman falling at your feet, and if you're thinking, you're not going to execute. I'm do the Cleveland browns had no chance what's I turn that game on to combat because Baker Mayfield is not at a at that level yet he's just. A He is going to end up holding this extremely talented team back like I said. This is not on him. He has gotten unfortunate position and pretty much every quarterback that's gone to Cleveland in the recent years not even receivers fifteen twenty years. have been terrible situation, but this is by far the most talented Cleveland's had in two decades. and. Yes, he doesn't deserve all the blame, but he deserves some of it. Because he was the number one overall pick, he's a heisman trophy. He took his team to the college football player. He has high expectations. But he's thinking, he's not acting. He's staking it all starts with the fundamentals. which doesn't have locked down yet in that's a brawl as a quarterback it sounds simple and people wanna hear other things like, Oh, well, you know Odell is GonNa do this and you know Jarvis is going to do this, but but it starts with your quarterback and fundamentally he is flawed right now. and. I. Don't know how you can fix it to be honest. I, really don't. But. Then this is the question and it's it's a fair question. What happened his rookie season? Why was he so much better his rookie season. It's a great question and that's because as a rookie he was in shotgun almost every single time. Now use those that say what shocker shocker is when you're not lining up behind the center chocolate is when you're you're already three steps back and you say, Hi to, you know what I'm saying. So they're hyping it to you and your are back there. So you don't have to do your step that you're still going to step back a little bit but you're not going to do the whole three step drop from you get the ball to your from your center. So he didn't have to worry is rookie year a ballot, his drop that lotion he didn't have to worry about his fundamentalist being so off because he wasn't doing the drop back. because. This is the thing in college. He could use his athleticism to make place in the NFL. He is least athletic player on the field that simple the NFL is too good. Everyone is good. Everyone is too fast. Everyone is to physical, and now I know the next question next question that all of you should be thanking all of you should be asking is will the why the heck are they putting in shotgun from here on out right. And this is what Kevin's too. Their new coach is that head coach because of the draw back play action pass Kevin Incidents came over from a team in the Vikings last year that doesn't have a very confident quarterback. He had success with that quarterback because of the run game it all about the run game he doesn't want that. He doesn't want to do the shotgun the whole time he doesn't want that he wants to turn around and hand the ball off to nick job and hand the ball off to cream client, which are not bad options by the way. Not that options at all because in order. But in order to do effectively in the NFL, like to do it till, you have like a sixteen or eighteen hundred yards season from running back in nick chopper. Pretty. High you have to be under center. You have to be under center Baker just isn't comfortable under center, and if you're Kevin Stefanski and you want to run the ball down the hill and had the cutback lanes and run it down their throat and pulling guards and all this misdirection stuff you got to be under center you have and Baker Mayfield. Do that because he's not comfortable there. And the reason why you have to be under center if you WANNA do then run game because then it sets up the play action packs. So you do the same action, right? You turn around you hand the ball to nick shop you turn around hand the ball to cream high you keep doing it. So at the defense thanks, they gonNA keep running and you do keep running until finally you turn around and you fake hand off on a play action pass in you hit your Odell Beckham you hit your Jarvis Landry boom deep. That's what Kevin Stance he's trying to build, but he can't build that. Until the fundamentals, the simple fundamentals are there for Baker. Baker has to do this under center. He has to be under center for this system to work, and he's not comfortable there and he's fundamentally flawed and when you watch how he is, he goes leapt he leaps instead of taking steps back. When he's doing is he's thinking and when you're thinking, you can't be successful in the national football league. I mean think about. Golf. The more you think while you're out there on the course the worst you're off right when you're out there on the course and you're having fun you're talking to your buddies, you're drinking beers and you're not actually thinking about your next shot. That's when you play the Best I. Knew for sure when I play the best and I guarantee that's most you play. But when you're out there and you just hit a shot in the woods and in the whole time we're thinking, okay what did I do wrong? What did I do wrong? What did I do wrong and now you finally drop another ball and you hit it into the woods again because that whole time you were thinking about what's going on? You're getting in your head and the browns or really good at running the ball to they averaged over five yards a carry. That's really good in the NFL and it's not like they're only running the ball ten times a game I, mean they're running the ball thirty times a game or more at five yards carrying the national football league. That is really good. So you have the running game. The running game is there you had the number. One overall pick at quarterback. You have the number two overall rushing leader niche. Last year he was second in yards last season only behind that East Derrick Henry you easily have one of the best wide receivers in the NFL you have another incredibly talented wideout, Jarvis Landry and you have a very good tight end in Austin Hooper who can easily bowl because I sold at first hand the last four years when he was Atlanta and he got better. Every statistical category possible each year. With. NATTY ICE under center. You pay you pay a practice on a motive for Jay called Jack Conklin to protect your quarterback this off season, which fortified that offensive lines. So finally it's not. Awful like it's been these entire other two years, you have one of the best passers in the League Pass rushers in the League and Myles Garrett. Cole more you should easily be putting thirty plus points a game easily and they are and they're not even getting close to that, and this is the thing this is going to either get really quick or really really bad quick because that brings us into our Thursday night matchup this Thursday week to. Week two and we already have the battle of Ohio on our hands a team in the Cincinnati being who didn't play well on Sunday, but still should have won because Joe Berry Joe Borough. Showed that he has moxie show he is a legit qb showed Joe Bureau showed something. No. Doubt that he can play. And they have pros on their team. They have Joe Mixon, they have AJ agreed they have Tyler Boyd they have some players on defense they have players. So you got the bengals. If you lose that game. Oh my goodness. If you lose that game to the other team in Ohio, the team with the rookie qb that has talent but nowhere near the town that you have. If, you lose that game over my goodness. And then you go and play Washington and we three. Washington is going to be better I saying all summer Ron Rivera was a great hire. He's going to bring a competitive edge to that team they're going they're not going to be joking more. But you probably you still supposed to be Dwayne askins at this point. If you start Owen three and that first game you play the ravens that make sense you lose that. Okay. But. If you start on three or one to, I mean you know I I don't know how you really recover from death this year because there so fragile because they're not used to winning. They don't know how to win now. There's no culture there it all just doesn't add up to me. For the amount of talent they have I mean what has happened to Odell. Since. He has become a brown. What has happened to. is even out there anymore and I get it. He's he you know he's pews injured last year. He looks normal. He doesn't look like a special player anymore. Three. Catches for twenty two yards. How how this one of the best receivers we've ever seen? It almost feels like no matter what they do or what they liked to to try to call pushing get right. They can't get a right and I don't want to blame it on factors that aren't real right because it ultimately comes down to can you execute? It comes down to can you execute? Can you catch goals? Can you run the football cannot throw interceptions it comes down to the tangible things the things that you can control, but it's horrid not to look at the browns and say there's something else. There's something else going on they scored six points guys in the modern NFL six points. In the modern I, get the ravens are good but six points. And see this thing it's not like this team is the jets see Sam darnold yet he he's not been British. This since he's been drafted he hasn't okay that's fair. But he can't get an offensive line to save his life. He doesn't have any weapons. Baker has everything at his disposal and the browns just can't execute. But let me tell you. They better win that Thursday night game. They cannot lose the battle of Ohio. To Joe Borough. A rookie qb, who's very good. But a rookie QB, a team with way less town. Baker has to come out and show that he's ready for this moment and again, I'm not putting this all on Baker. It's hard for anyone succeed with three coaches in three years but Baker has completely lost his fundamentals and when you don't have your fundamentals in the national football league, you don't have anything. If Kevin Stansky is a coach. which I think he's a good coach. He needs to go back to the drawing board go back to step one and get those fundamentals back. Otherwise his offense is not working with Baker Mayfield under center. It's that simple. This is the GMC football podcast. I'm your host cave on Zombie. We're GONNA take a quick break when we come back, we're GONNA talk some pitchforks out about Tom. 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It's only fifteen weeks which you know for for regular season in next season can't wait. That's GONNA actually be sixteen weeks. Each team's gonNA play have seventeen weeks schedule off with a by so I can't wait for that but you know how? Like it takes forever the week for week want to come week once finally here, the next thing you know we're in like week four, we five, six and. You can't start off back. You just can't look you can lose one gain you can lose two games but the that that's one thing people have hinged every team every year or team starts to hits strive at and makes the play offs. So that happens but I know as fan bases, we'd much rather our teams to start strong right. So we're GONNA, look at the teams that. Did start that this week one and it's overreaction Tuesday. It's overreaction week when it happens all the time we can go to we can go to the ringing phone in the lobby and answer it because we got a lot of fans that are panicking I get you know on panic into especially, you know when when you do your own one plane owned one team so it's like In two, you know. So the box and the panthers they're, they're playing each other, they're both going one. So one team unless tie happens is coming out of their own to, and that's rock you know the Falcons are playing the cowboys both teams are on one one teams coming out of their own to the Falcons got to go to Dallas so it'll be interesting. And it'll be interesting to see if there's fans in the stadium, any of these. Games if anything changes or or if we keep rolling like this I good bit but overall my favorite thing was it was good football all around. It really was sloppy play here and there but overall football was good. The football was really good and you've got a credit the players for staying in shape you've got a credit the players for. Staying Discipline Not not getting cove it or going out to places where there in susceptible to covert and stuff like that, and the coaches and the administrative staff. Executives the League you gotTa credit them all the workers that do the stuff that we behind the scenes stuff that we just don't talk about. That's important. That's important big time and you know if they went out and didn't didn't stay disciplined, they came back and given issue a player someone that we do really talk about. So everyone deserves credit but now comes the hard part. You know getting to week one I said I always said from from the star we are going to have we wanna football what's going to happen from there is they're going to be an outbreak from these teams flying cross country is they're going to be an outbreak from these teams. Tackling chiller playing all each other and stuff like that. What's going to happen from there during the next week? Are Things going to change and the biggest key is this when teams start to fall out of contention? That's what the League is worried. Now I can tell you that is what the League is worried about when teams start to fall out of contention. Do some of the young players not the veteran's veteran events are smart to some of the young players start to get loose with their. Disciplined start to think, hey, you know we're. We're out of this where we're not playing for much. You know let's let's go out to a bar or something like that. You know you think no because. If. They don't play. Then they're gonNA lose their paychecks. So so hopefully, they understand that but they're young. So so that's something that the League I'm sure is very. Worried and interested to see what happens now. Moving forward will see as this goes but as of right now, a lot of credit to everyone involved there's there's no doubt about that. I want to move into this before we go into panic or patients segment where we're going to name some of the teams that had tough week ones to see where where do you go from here? Are you gonNA panic or you're gonna hit the patient button on the midnight and I'll go through that? So stay tuned your team comes involved but I I WANNA talk to. Tackle this subject right here. Here we go. Right. Here we go. Tom Brady. Everybody wants it seemed like the whole world wanted him to have a bad week one day. Dinner They and he did. And now the pitchforks are out you know. Let me. Let me give you this real real quick. You know how when you grow up? In your in your parents home. and. You're. You're living in your parents home you're you're going to. Middle School and high school and and you live with it. So you're living under their rules. You know they they made the rules because you're under their house and rightfully. So Right Well. They keep you disciplined by giving those rules. We get mad at them because they don't let us go out later they give us a curfew react to clean our room and stuff like that all and it's in the moment of time we're like, are you kidding as we get older? We start to realize you know they're doing it for the best of us. They're keeping US discipline they're giving US rules to follow. And rightfully. So so you go through that and you realize that you don't realize at the moment you know or sometimes you do just depending on how where you are at a young age but you follow their rules because you're under their house. And they create the discipline if you screw up. They're here to punish you know whether that's taking your electric's away who whatever. So. When when it's time to go to college and live on your own or you get a job and you live on your own you move. APP. Will you're living on your own. So you then have your responsibilities. So you then have to deal with euro disciplined you have to deal with. On. What you do. You have to make those decisions you have to make those decisions of, do you WanNa go? WanNa go out right you WANNA go have have drinks with your friends. Well Yeah. Do that make sure you do that in moderation where you can still cough up that monthly rent when it comes where you can still on? Pay For your electric and groceries when it comes those are important things as you go right. Well. Once, you start to get on your own. You start to realize that you don't really have your parents disappointed back you up. You don't have your parents there to say, Hey, hey, hey, like. You did that wrong but don't worry. We're here for you like that that changes you start to realize that. That is what's happening with Tom Brady. Okay. That's what's going to happen. He was just with. The, most disciplined Organization for twenty years. He was with the best head coach ever for twenty years. He was with team where he can have off nine. But they can still win. Based on his coach, picking him up based on his coach making sure the rest of the team is different discipline. See they the Patriots will never lose by beating themselves. They will never punish themselves they will never. have. Twelve fifteen flags in a game they're not gonNA lose because they work disciplined now they might lose because Brady has an off game. They might lose because the team just doesn't play well, but they're not gonNA shoot themselves in their foot. They're not going to allow that to happen. Right they're gonNA play their. Game. They're going to make sure that they are disciplined and that they are disciplined. No matter what. And they can live with the results from their. Brady. Now is going to a team where They aren't disciplined. We're Bruce Arians isn't. A coach that is going to make sure that his team, the the the buckner led the league in penalties last year. Bruce Arians is not. Bill Belichick he's not going to crack down the whip. He's not going to make sure that none of his players screw up. That's just not the coach said he is. He's a great coach. But it's different it's different. Tom Brady has to get used to this. Okay. He goes into an all season. Where they can barely practice. Where he asked to hide from the helicopters and all that by playing on on high school field with teenage just to get some reps in because he's not supposed to be doing that because of covert and rightfully. So you know. He he all? Leading the week one, his number, one receiver and Mike Evanston a practice because he's hurt Leonard for net who's GonNa end up being their best running back I. Know Roy Jones was their number one but for net will be he just got there. He still trying to learn the offense. Okay, and then they played a team in New Orleans that has been together for fifteen years new. Orleans. Has a coach in Sean Payton in an qb injuries that has been together for fourteen straight ears Brady and Bruce Arians have been together for four months. Okay we didn't expect. The box just come in and dominate that game. We shouldn't have expect. Brady. To just come in and dominate that game now did he have some good throws, of course Did he have some bad throws yes for sure. Did he play overall a bad game? Yes, he did. But we have to relapse yes he's Tom Brady but we have to realize God he was just with an Organization for twenty years that is completely different from the organization that he's with now and yet he chose that that's on him. He chose that and I said a couple of weeks ago for the season starts that the pressure on him and he has to live up to it but let's criticize him after the season's over if he doesn't even make the playoffs or if they make the playoffs and then lose a game. Okay. Then we can criticize it. It's week one against the team that has been together for fourteen years in new. Orleans. Komo. Mike Evans hurt all clearly you could tell they were all their report was terrible. It takes time football is a team game. Okay. That's one thing. Give it time and trust me. They're going to bounce back next week and they're going to beat the parent panthers. You have my word on that you have my word on that now. Let me move onto this. Bruce Arians needs to be careful here. Bruce Arians needs to be careful here. Let me play you this this sound by of Bruce Arians after the game. The game on Sunday against the New Orleans Saints. Tom Brady us all the time. So it's kind of blow. Unusual to see that game because they didn't do the things of the get ready for a week. Everything they did redoubled ready for. Doing very well and It's not what he expects from south argument expect. So ask. Him To have grid l'amour determination this week. What Dude Bruce Arians just say I would expect for him to have a little bit more great in determination this week. Well, let me just give the street. Yes. Tom. Brady, not play well. Of course he did it and do you want to is it okay I'm not standing up? You're saying he shouldn't criticized Tom Brady should he criticized Of course he should. Tom Brady is a big boy. He can take some criticism. He's taking criticism from Bell Jack. He's taken criticism from everywhere Josh mcdaniels. He can take criticism you can sit up there. Say he he missed read a read on on Mike Edwards which he ended up actually coming back and taking that back and say that was Evans Fall operated but you can sit up there and say you know he played that. Brady will take all day Bruce Arians to say. That, he's going to he. He will hopefully have some more grit and determination. Do you not understand that we're talking about Tom Brady. Who is obsessed with winning who I think is probably the most competitive athlete ever outside of Michael Jordan. Like Bruce Arians you're not bill belichick you don't have six rooms. You're not the greatest coach of all time. Look like you Bruce Arians I. Do I think you're a good coach players rave about you? Players want to play with you all the time and you are a good coach. You've done some good days in this league but didn't Brady just leave villa check because he was getting. Of treated this way. Again criticised Brady for the mistakes all you want Brady is a big boy. He can take that and he will take that but when you start criticizing him for his effort. And his grit. That's GONNA be a problem. Because that's simply not true. That is the last thing you can say about Tom Brady did he play that year? He played bad. Did he have some bad reads yet? Did he not show a lot of athleticism yet there are some issues with Brady. You know he's definitely not the most athletic quarterback definitely doesn't have the ZIP in the fire that he has back when he was ten years younger. But to say, he doesn't have the passion the grit determination. Three is not gonNA like that. This is week one Bruce Arians week one what are you doing calling out Brady about his grit? Grit is perfectly fine. That that that's just I don't see how Brady can like that at all I it. It's just not true. It's not true. It's not a good look. It's not a good look whatsoever and breezy will use this as fired bounce back but. Come on come on percents you got me better. You gotta be better. I don't know if you think that you need to do these kind of things because. Because you now have brady and you need to kind of do like a bill belichick type thing. All right. Talk to Brady in the locker room. If you don't like what you're seeing out there talk to bring the locker. What, what's the point of airing it out like that? To show that you're in charge. Does that matter Brady's there to win football games. GotTa get it together. GotTa be careful there if you're Bruce Arians this is the GMC football podcast on your host cave on Zombie are right got five minutes left in the show time to do a little bit of panic or patients So let's start it off look. Let's start off with the team that we talked about earlier the Cleveland. I'm panicking on panicking I'm sorry terrible. This is the second. Year in a row that they've come out and lost by thirty two points. You don't. You don't come out a lose to divisional opponent by thirty two points. They did it last year when they play the titans and everyone thought, they're going to be this great team titans came out hit him right in the mouth. This year, the expectations were not as high, but the talent was even better even better. and. They came out and laid in A. It was a terrible performance by Baker. Mayfield. Was a terrible performance by the coaching staff by the defense and don't get me wrong. Baltimore's a good team. I'm not asking for you guys to beat Baltimore in Baltimore but to put up six points in the modern NFL when your head coach is in offensive coach, he got the job because he's an offensive minded coach and he did a good job with kirk cousins come on. There is panic panic panic in Cleveland and I'll tell you what if you lose to that city of Cincinnati and you lose that Battle of Ohio on Thursday night, there is going to be issues. Be tied issues. Time issues. This is the GMC football podcast doing a little game of panic and patients. The next one Minnesota Viking look I have patients here right. But I was wrong I I think I might have been wrong about them winning division I'm not GonNa say I'm fully wrong about it but. I thought Air Rodgers and the packers you know with with draft Jordan love I thought that there was going to be this dynamic. Where Rogers he would do his thing, but he wouldn't go all out. You'd be salty. Rogers is putting this on his sleeve and he's GonNa, show it every bit of the way. Every bit of the way he just showed that to us week one rogers is ready to go and I think he's ready to do it in a spiteful way and I can't wait to watch it. So I will be fine if I lost I will be fine if I was wrong about this. But they came out and they put a woman on a Minnesota team that prides themselves on defense that just traded for Janaka golfway that just tried to get. That's been trying to get better on defense all off season and they got whooped like they shouldn't have even been in the same arena with the packers. While patients because they have a lot of good pieces on that Minnesota team. So no need to panic yet but that was a bad bad. We Point Performance Philadelphia Eagles, look patients but I'll tell you what the I'm also panicking a little bit because of this patients because they have Carson Wentz they have a good team and they just blew they blew a lead to a really good football team that has a root Excuse me. Let me take that back. Washington's a really good football. Team. But a football team that has a really good off a defensive line I mean probably the best defensive line early and to a coach that you know had again, ninety shot at halftime. His players clearly rallied around him when they saw that I mean this is a good story for Washington these things it's a divisional game. It's week one. These things happen the part where on panicking a little bit is the injuries. Philadelphia is only going into week two and they have already lost two or three offensive linemen already a couple of wide receivers. a couple of defensive players on the D.. Line. They they are in a mess you know. They're they're defensive in. Grandma throughout his first name, he has a concussion like they are a mess with injuries one weekend and that's where I worry. But when it comes to the play overall good coaching staff, you know good quarterback. They just gotTa get healthy. The division will be that strong. So patients, they're all right next one, the Atlanta Falcons Look There's patients here but not a lot. Standpoint is on a very short leash. He got the job he he kept one. He got to come back this year because his players played hard for him and they went six two down the stretch. But you cannot show up week one like that and allow thirty eight points. Now granted like I said, Seattle did something that we've never seen him do Dave Russell, Wilson Cook from plate one, and so later was just at the wrong place at the wrong time to receive that that was the best game I've ever seen Russell Wilson play I'm not kidding. So it's a mix of both but now they go to Dallas, which is a team that they have not played well. Throughout their years Dallas has always been a tough franchise for them I. Don't know why if they go in to you know that things are going to start to just the rumors going to heat up and the bye week talk Dan Quinn getting let go is gonNA eat up. So the players need a rally they need to go to Dallas to win. I'm not panicking yet. But if they go to that panic, button might start to get hit. The next one new. York jets panic panic. I didn't see one thing that I liked about the jets Sam darnold under pressure. Every sees under duress every single time he touches the ball, the offensive line they might as well just put no one there. I. Mean Seriously I think he would have a quicker time to release the ball if they just put nobody. There I mean, they don't block the offensive line is terrible. The receivers are not good lady on bill got hurt again Adam is just all over the place. I don't know what he's doing as a coach I? Feel bad for Sam Darnold look he might not be the quarterback I thought he was coming out of the draft blood he hasn't even got a shot. Put Sam Darnold on the Cleveland Browns and see what happened with that town. seriously. He has no talent. This is this is absurd of I. Feel bad for Sam Darnold I'm panicking in New, York on panicking for the jets. Houston Texans, panic for patients, patients, patients, patients look did they look terrible offense? Yes. Was it a bad look after they looked awful De'andre Hawkins went out and had the game of his life fourteen catches. Hundreds spiff yards or something like that. Yeah. It looks terrible and Bill Bill Brian should get a lot of heat for it but they still have one of the best quarterbacks in the NFL and Shawn Watson. You can't panic when you have that guy there. All right. They have leadership on the team. Takes a while to get the pieces going no panic yet in Houston town but they have a very tough schedule. That's something to be aware of this is the GMC football podcast I WANNA. Thank you everyone for listening on. You guys are also reach out. Let me know who you are panicking or having patients on. Let me know your game of the week. You're waterboy rewards of the week reach out to me on for the next show next Tuesday show as I will. Be Reading Out y'all's tweets for those awards can't wait will make it a segment of. 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Part 1: Chris Griffin

Thoroughbred Racing Radio Network

1:22:58 hr | 3 months ago

Part 1: Chris Griffin

"Sirius xm presents raises with steve. Bishop horse racing handicapping interviews. This is steve. Well a good thing. I put the headset on you. Lose track of doing three things at once here. And i was time my shoes. I tax thing with hammer was on the phone with chuck assignment three things at once. Five things at once. That's every day every day sirius. Xm to a one night sixty four. You're listening to siriusxm online and at our website. Good morning and a good thursday. Gotta be getting excited about the saturday action. i'm excited. We're going down to ecuador and we got back. For his second start and the fairgrounds road to the fairgrounds oaks and louisiana derby underway. And i know. I've been saying all week that you know that's gonna be the focus the biggest focus but that that that's I was not premature about it. But you know granted it's got the big rated stakes louisiana lecomte and then the rest of the undercard. But there's there's really good sequence at laurel for for example with the strong winter carnival as it were they've got six stakes over half a million and it's time at At tampa pasco the gasparilla and what the what's the third the older horse. There's also the older. There's always the older one. The wayward lass as well you've got regional strong regional action. California has got i. there is of course yesterday's contract the news person news which will get to They've got the calcutta ish day. I say ish because there's a little bit of everything this is. Is that point on the calendar where we used to have we used to have the alternating sunshine millions stuff so then then the cup kind of augmented when when the thing kind of split apart and you've got sunshine million raises down at gulfstream full-fledged calabria day at santa anita there's a little everything nice card as well at put together for act r race that we're in the maiden special for state brits going to mile split actually into two divisions and and so forth plenty to plenty to keep us occupied and looking ahead to. We can preview tomorrow. I'll give you a couple of highlights from from what was drawn yesterday. And course the fairgrounds fairground stuff and they've had days to a peru's speaking of fairgrounds quick. I'll give you a quick aside because Something bubble to the surface. That got me again. One of the things. I i was doing in the last the hour hour and a half tomorrow. There's a maiden special for three year old fillies. And as i'm going through this group to group of ten and it's i guess led by the bret. Calhoun warfront philly. Although this is on the main and a very interesting that calhoun is avoided the grass with the peacebroker warfront out of a module bear and making a fourth start on dirt. So they're doing everything they can to prove her out as a as a dirt horse i suppose they could always moved to the grass once they exhaust if they exhaust that aspect of her and she's run well on the run. Okay on the dirt. Let's say that she's been second third and fourth in three starts but what caught my in here. There's also the tap it Philly out of hot. Dixie chick for steve asmussen and and barbara banke pauline pearl. Making a second start ran okay In december in her debut disappointed as the favorite Seems to eventually you know probably better start but no the horse that caught my eye is a horse for merrill share and third start for de. Frost is a horse. That merrill owns with dan lynch and i mentioned Was late last week or might even been already this week that we wanted to get an update. So i reached out to gary shearer and gary's handling you know these sources for for merrill while he continues to recover from the stroke and he is home. The good news is that he's home. Gary says that he's he's doing better and he's taken calls he said The if you want if you know if you've been hesitating to friends far flung friends throughout the game of merrill he's home and you can reach him so if you have been holding off calling and checking in with the great meryl shearer you. Can you got the green light from gary. And i'm sure everybody will be thrilled to hear him at the least send e he never. He never was a great texter to be honest. But you can You know he would. He would respond with a couple of words whenever whatever you tried to tomorrow but that was good. News and certainly. Here's della frost making a third. Start a frosted philly that maryland. Dan lynch paid forty. Seven thousand. four is a two year old out of a kittens. Joy is another one. That probably wouldn't mind the grass if need be she debuted on the grass actually so going short then made a slight improvement in her. Second start so anyway. That jumped off the page of me. I wanted to check in a couple things about today. And of course it's thursday so you've got some tony black. You got your steve asking. You got your reaching. And we'll slip. Seth into second week in a row. Actually the third wednesday got little little oversized and of course yesterday's show and programming but essentially Taken over by the the passing of prince colleague and been so mitts. Amazing actually if you scour the the internet any of the race media here and abroad. There's some really already been. I mean it's it's two days and there's already been some really go interesting reaction in terms of delving into the month history and legacy and saw piece from the racing post and there was a piece another piece of blood horse about the foundation mayors. And the ones that you know. That aren't necessarily as heralded as to saad and sealy and so forth But the the the the back story you know before everybody came to to understand just how you know how successful they were. They were becoming and back When the seeds were being planted as it were so lots to lots to absorb. And i think again. I think lenny and nick lock for yesterday's contributions and sit because said rounded out the and we have a lot to cover yesterday and we didn't even get everything because there's a couple as i mentioned there's a couple of late retirements that horses. That are you know heading into sheds we'll get to that My by put it all on the side. So we'll get to that. In addition to the thursday plus marrow lineup. Don't have a chance today to talk to dick. We'll talk to dick powell tomorrow. Scott something. He could not avoid today so i said how about friday. So we'll get hong kong action. Yesterday's racing and saturday nights sunday mornings shelton. We'll do that with With sit sit with dick tomorrow chris. Griffin's gonna join the though in this hour and sam. Sam houston is the shot in texas. Right that's what they say. And i guess a what does that. Guess we're tampa is the happy valley. That speculating chris. Griffin is gonna join us from say abuse that it's the start of the second week and a reminder that it's not night racing it starts at five three eastern time four. Oh three central is your first post and the space city six converts today. Starting today it were really pushing this. Because they did the right thing and they've been so Cognizant of pricing for players. And i mean this is. This is particularly aggressively. Priced the twelve percent. Take out on the space city and no more jackpot. I if if it gets hit on a daily basis but let's say today that it just gets hit straight. Seventy five percent of the pool goes to winters twenty five percent to consoles. If there's a carry over twenty five percent goes to the five zero five six and seventy five percent would carry to the next day. So fifty cents and fifty cent increment. This is going to be fun to track. I think i tried to get i. Try to talk about this. Tuesday and nick we touch. It should be interesting. And i think given how much experience now people have have been able to build up with the pick five plays. I got a feeling that this is really going to be. Well received the twenty. Obviously they couldn't have done this twenty cents. Because there there wouldn't ever be a carryover you do you know you. You do want carryovers. You do want there to be some sequences that are just you know that. Go on hit. And so it'll it'll trigger you know it'll trigger some big pays But the fifty cent increment. I think is do i. I'm i haven't played a scene of a pick six scenario with a fifty cent increments the dollar a course Breeders cup has experimented with the dollar increment the last few years for the you know the two days that they've run the breeders cup fixed sex and that that's a challenge. I mean that that's one thing that is part of the equation on the ticket building front. So we'll see. We'll see what chris thoughts are. I'll right. I didn't get a chance to type this up. I'll do it after the show but it's not an easy sequence and it's particularly made particularly challenging. I thought with the first leg and the first leg is a fifty thousand optional. Claimer non winners to lifetime going mile on the grass this is for a straight three year olds and what to me what made it what makes this a maniacal first leg. The there's what one two three four five six of the ten horses make it seven of the ten horses. One two three four five six seven eight of the ten we cow eight of the ten are trying the turf for the first time and in addition to those that are trying to grasp for the first time. Almost the entire field is stretching out there. There's i think. Seven that stretching out from six or six and a half furlongs. I mean that's a recipe a mile on the grass at sam houston and it just feels like a recipe for you know for a bit of collapse and on that topic. There's a horse the caught my eye in here. That's twenty to one shot on the morning line of knicks morning wine. Texas bad boy. This is a texas red bread by the mcleans. Actually out of a Patient bill maher slew ville and he was a debut winner for kevin shoal at remington in december and he came from off the pace which is a an attribute that that could really help here. Twenty two one and the aspect that that you know. I was already interested because i was looking for somebody that might come from off the pace. The aspect of this is kevin shoals glaring numbers going to the turf. He's three for four. The last eighteen months going. I the first turf of any kind and overall dirt tariff. He's five eleven both obviously with with garish our allies so this is texas bad boy. Twenty two one in the first leg and after that after you get out of this first leg it It gets. I think a little bit more approachable but the first leg is is a monster. Second-leg you're gonna look at it. There's actually a couple of horses in here. You're going to be familiar. With including steve asmussen with rotation. And been you know back for his five year old debut and vice versa claimed from acid by doro. Who's a nice horses one. Five times that those are seemingly the two that you're going to focus on dreams of valor. Seems like he's got a shot the veteran so you know that. That's reasonable enough The third leg nickel Dated claim nine winners To since july. And you know here. I thought you know. The two favorites made a lot of sense. In fact i imagined some people will consider singling depending on your budget. Aj's grant in here. The seven eighth is a little tricky eighth kind of want to see if anybody came out of there. And then the ninth and tenth and ninth know feels like there's three to four horses i went. I got one five six seven noted and then in the nightcap. I thought it came down to you. Know obviously the four to five favorite is going to be a heavy lean egypt princess for asmussen making a first start for asmussen. Moving over from brendon walsh. So i'm anxious to hear what what chris's thoughts are all right. So we'll go through the sam houston action with you about half an hour a little less give or take. I mentioned the. I mentioned the piece of news from california and this is a this is a nice development. What transpired here is essentially a re not a reimagining but a tinkering with the the structure of the eighty w. contracts with the and essentially it amounts to a significant and vital frankly boost to the personal accounts for southern california and they expect that as it stands right now with tv g. Del mar strana group together. It'll mean about fifteen million into purses over the next two years there's that you'll recall that Late last year The analysis that was The analysis that pandemic habit it in practice and essentially you know racetrack on racetrack revenue Put a almost a twenty percent dent into personal account contributions. So this effort to renegotiate the you know. The percentages essentially Will help offset that loss. And it should be noted that santa anita has already had a ten percent across the board person increase based on early handle numbers. So things you know the definitely a shot in the arm and help on that topic makes it a little makes it a little easier anyway tomorrow. We'll probably you probably get more on this. I probably probably get steve anderson tomorrow. to flesh out some of the details so that that was nice news. Sale action yesterday at keeneland. Today's last day and kind of a modest modest day trade here day. Three some of the i guess. The spry family dispersal went through Yesterday the top seller was a street sense. Young street sense mayor dino macari bought or crispy macari excuse me dino knows for man dino texting wish him happy new year from the hood street sense mayor. Enfold too fast anna. Three hundred seventy five thousand top top. Top short year link was a lay band cope by orozco bloodstock. Seventy thousand shaman ghost With a with an early nice selling baby a colt to cedar rock ranch fifty five thousand and some of the spry family mayors. Here's heavenly hundred and eighty thousand windstar and the uncle mo philly mo- emma hundred twenty thousand purchased by zilly racing. Now here's this just caught me. I missed this in the first pass. Actually and i'm just noticing that tom evans trackside paid one hundred and sixty thousand for ten demerits. Who's in full to gervin. It's going to be certainly there. There's there's some there's some stallions that are popping. Yeah that are hitting the market Ten demerits is a six year old into mischief pussycat doll and that actually makes me that. That reminds me of. I guess that that pussycat doll herself was was a attract side product. Or maybe not i- pussycat down rings a bell and i'm trying to the lung of the look her up real quite maybe peter like peterman and and and baffert that's possible that's possible. Yeah all right. I'll look that up on a break. This stuff down otherwise it slips through the cracks here. We go pussycat doll about boots. I but i thought. I'm the reason i'm the reason i'm thinking it is. Maybe maybe pussycat doll related to to midnight. Lute i there there's there's something that ties in here to to track side. And i thought maybe not all right. This is how this is how those those rabbit holes get established right. This exactly what happens with me You know the now. i'll look up. Get go from there A few other things. Let's see tomorrow now mentioned it while we got a chance. Golden gate resumes racing tomorrow and they got an eight race card to kick things back off and obviously it's been what it's close to two months month and a half plus and a a real battle on the backstretch with covid and good to see the good to see them. You know getting back up and running all right so if you weren't aware that golden gate back on your back on your screen tomorrow. Men should be in fresh strong boys. I would imagine. And the by the way i just yeah just turned over a the my note on sale and i do want to note the the unfortunate incident on tuesday at keeneland. If you did not see this bill finley wrote this up and at tbn. Ricardo ramirez sixty six. Who worked for jim. Harbaugh owner had a heart attack while handling yearling just about to come into the ring and passed away so thoughts her been mentioned that Ramirez only would only do this kind of work during the sale period and for him and the rest of the year he was. He was a cabdriver In lexington but he he had worked for ashford for thirty years. And and if you read the piece Bill wrote up. You can tell. Her was very upset and So tough tough on the. I didn't want to let that slip through the cracks. I mentioned the before we take a break. The the laurel card and give you a quick. Let's give you a quick before we take a break. And before chris griffin joins us the slate Down laurels got lot of familiar. There's maryland maryland bred veterans to say the least and the geisha for the phillies mayor's going mile drew field Feel the six tim. By the way the tim keeps Got one in here and coconut cake. I believe tim got reelected as the head of the maryland horsemen that That election just took place. Jonathan thomas has got gale in here for bob evans and eclipse. Just a six horsfield but nice. It's a nice group actually Mageza you've got the fireplug these these. Are the boys going three. our friend. dal gold has got the wendell fong drew. the rail. looks good in your actually The this is a. This is a serious field wendell. Fong how about Good old lackey making his eight-year-old debut for dilatot. Vico lambda made a quarter of a million Virtually everybody in this field. I think is a major six figure earner quite something. Actually this is. This is a serious field in the fireplug for hundred thousand You've got share. The ride and about imagine led to share the ride group. Wendell fox is in the hands by the way of italian lynch who had been a assistant to jeremiah engelhardt. And she just getting going. She's sent out a dozen starters or so and looking for her first win. It'd be nice to get it. In a in a stake the jennings for the maryland-breds and again in of some veteran some serious veteran horses co-ord- maker for rodney jenkins and and hill-wood very nice Half a million dollars coming in for his six year old debut keeps got another one in here tattooed. And you've got always mining shows up here so the jennings and the what a summer. Toronto and club car as blue. Ben colebrook has been coburg threatened. The other wording club car shows up in here. Malibu mischief comes down from new york for for rudy rodriguez. Hello beautiful for brittany. Russell will the favourite a nice group in the what a summer phillies and mayor's going three quarters and then the extra heat for the three year old fillies. Six furlongs Everybody almost everybody. I should say is making their three year. Old debut breeze off the bay actually and trip to freedom they both actually would be making their second star. Ready in this spot and phil showing who i. We promised we were going to reach out to. And he's got plane drunk the stay thirsty in ear. Last seen in the pennsylvania nursery and the the boys race the spectacular bid so a very nice slater stakes. Saturday laurel shack queen king. Coming back for gary capuano howard county. Turn back actually looks pretty potent in here at a glance. Actually this look like there's some. There's some horses with upside in here. May the horse be with you for brittany russell. Michael dub a bull's bay gelding coming out of an when you have a check. Winking coming back. From a mile on the sixteenth so nice card for laurel and Part of what flushed out Into a a very nice saturday when you fold in fairgrounds The gasparilla and the pasco the boys and the girls go and seven eighths each at tampa as well and You know what. Maybe we'll save this with with seth. I'm sure sep. Those looked ahead feeling. Mischief for michael campbell. Coming out of the sandpiper where he was a winner at Three one favourite so leads the group in undoubtedly and in the pasco the inaugural winter did not come back in here. Actually interesting poppies pride. But the third place. Finisher for tim padilla. The alligator hunter overanalyze colt. Tim co-owns with peter madsen. Looks like looks. Alright y'all got last out the winner making a debut. Horsa a flat out for tim ham out of pomeroy mayor. I don't remember if we had for member. If we don't think we came up with would have remembered any with tim. Heimlich a heimlich h. i. Emi l. e. c. h. c. can't maneuver his way around Yeah alright case. Better take a break. We'll take a break here. Come back at chris griffin is gonna join us. We'll talk about the i. I thought that was terrible. Heimlich maneuver no all right. I'll stop. I'll show myself out a that. Have this case. He's disgusted with me. All right at the racist going thursday chris griffin from sam houston after this apple races. With steve on sirius. Xm radio why in the past decade has declined become the premier equine supplement company in the industry because we spend millions in research and development before we ever put out a product because we only fda supervised facilities to manufacture for us because what we say is in them is in them because they work. Because if you're not happy i'll give you your money back and because top trainers and veterinarians in thoroughbred racing standard bread racing three day eventing and barrel racing. Paul trust him. Be our elite client. 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Layers of names start to start the stick in your head. Chris griffin standing by and fresh happy new year. New your fees. great to catch up with you here. We are twenty. Twenty one rolling. Well you got rolling on. Friday and saturday Smashing start to the season at sam. Houston yeah only got to do it. forty three other times but yet great opening weekend and Great response and lots of positives and just getting the coverage done and Getting the twelve percent takeout out to folks and hopefully they're enjoying that now Get ready for thursday afternoon program. And then we're gonna add wednesdays to the mix and getting beat down and But that happens you know. That's that's understandable. The thing is is that there's so many horses that on paper they look like they're just much the best in the spot or or you know you see these connections. And when you see. Steve asks and call broberg rubber tina doro. You know they're gonna take money so right now. It looks like early on in the meat. Maybe you try and tackle them. Maybe you try and beat them in some of these spots and you know you saw some smaller bar-nissan jr caldwell get a couple of some nice prices and You know when you when you take out a twelve percent and then start getting. Somebody's eighteen to one shots It really makes it appealing for the better out there and That's what you saw opening weekend while we continue. I don't know if they're going to get rolling at some point. You know that's going to happen where they're gonna win three on a day but right now Especially early on in the meat. You know some of these horses have had some time off especially in the turf events you saw thirty two one shot light up the board last saturday and It's it's just been a real nice from a value standpoint. And i showed that my selections this week i learned my lesson. I'm going to go away from Some of the favorites hopefully in these spots and try to catch a price. Because there's always gonna take about two or three of those that we get some real nice scores during the meat. And that's what i'm looking for well. And you mentioned the horse that kicked off the pick sex the force out on saturday and that was he could go all the way Tomorrow and i talked a little bit about The sequence on monday and that that was the only turf race of Of the day and that was a horse. That was not easy. I it's interesting though jessica. Paquet made a case for he could go all the way and She talked about one of the more one of the fairly clear up potential winners but she absolutely tried to justify including he could go all the way and at thirty five to one. That and of course the horse in the nightcap heavenly rhythm less difficult to come up with Was a nice price at fourteen to one but he could go. All the way was the key to negotiating the sequence has been just a joy to work with and she's just been a great addition but she really dived into the pedigrees and take a look at it and yes on the surface on paper. You know the horses just broken. Its maiden for real small price and and that kind of throughout better but looking at turf form she felt like this was going to really outperform its odds and It was on a graphic. We did a video about it and she said it so it was a true longshot. Play from her and Kudos to her you know she kicked off to meet with a thirty five to one shot. You're either no pressure the rest of the meat or now. You're you've got a lot of expectations to to send out nothing but thirty the one shots every weekend but She made a case for it in the horse did well. It was interesting you know looking at the races. We just ran a couple over the last weekend. So you're kind of trying to get a feel for how speed holding up but in that right there was. There was a favourite that a lot of people. I felt like we're people were backing off though. It did look like a spot where you were going to take a shot against the favorite like we saw a lot last weekend and If you did that it really kicked off that. Pick six the really well and who knows who ever hit that. Two hundred seventy two thousand dollars On saturday they obviously had the horse on the ticket. So maybe they They went in an all situation. Or maybe they just 'cause inside and through the four on there as well but You'll see that you'll find that and she'll be us throughout the mate whenever we get an opportunity to have some selections and video. And she's she's she's one to follow of course because she's she's dialed in and she gave you that thirty five to one shot so we'll see if we can do that. Hopefully hopefully i can stay away from some of the favorites and give you some winners as well. Well the the the winners really kind of spread around that includes From a writing standpoint as well as from the training standpoint Steve asmussen off to a nice start. with three winters the first two days and and st louis elliott Multiple winners On saturday and had one as well On friday kicking off the season Pretty much everybody It seems Ray lucia gutierrez. We should mention coming in from new york and Ray lou off to a a big start as well. He had three winters opening opening day. You put it. You put it exactly. Well it was a little something of everything that happened during opening weekend of guys. You see some new faces because cabrera de sean parker. You're to leading writers Last season are are not are not here it deletes the spot leaves that that opportunity open here for some of these writers. The new faces that are in town to to really ball up the leaderboard and really make a name for themselves and have a real nice meet. You're seeing that reflected in in ray lose mounts As as he's this weekend is you'll see start seeing him right from Different barnes and Right now looking like he's gonna ride for carl. Broker pretty predominantly I call and he's named on a lot of favorites and we'll be in some spots and stored elliott as you say you know he'll. He'll continue to be very consistent successful unless he's trying to get in the mix and just a lot of new names and faces some real opportunities and some nice field sizes and Just keep everybody safe and get them around there. But they They've got some real chances here in in the doctor to really make a name for themselves. I'm also noting Looks like As many as fourteen looks like in twenty races you had fourteen different training outfits score winds already so a little bit of everybody Getting into the act and going and today the the new version of the space city pick six gets going fifty percent increment. I kind of Was was sorta free associating a little bit about the increment In here chris because it is it's going to be interesting it it's it's enough to inhibit People from pushing the all button. The willy nilly But it's i. It's slow enough that you could craft some reasonable approaches to the sequence and so i'm anxious to see you know how people take to the fifty cent increment and you know the the twelve percent is incredibly generous for players But certainly when you look at this sequence it starts in the fifth she'll go off at Six fifty six eastern 556 central I thought this was a very difficult place to start. The the the pick six of a lot of is going to the turf for the first time. You got ton of stretch outs. And i i really struggled to you know. Get a grasp on on who the the obvious candidates were. I did find a twenty to one shot. Though that i'm i'm kind of interested in in here. Texas boy talk a little bit about what you think. We should expect in the fifth. Yeah number five. The number seven lived king five to two in the morning line and then run marquette picks. Take over here. And the first comes from monmouth park With odds on one by back Actually called that race at mom park with lizard king when i was over there but the the number seven. I don't know i. I think too short of a price in here. It doesn't look like a single. The number six texas bad boy. You've probably seen some terrible in the pedigree and that was an impressive I doubt effort. Four in the turn strong drivers and those say and you're getting a big crisis. Twenty two one and kevin scholla when some races here during during the meat. And and you know that outfit like you say fourteen different outfits different barnes He'll get on the mic but the number three women bigger who. I went with an eight to one in the morning line. You know the one time. This horse tried turf was at remington park. As a seven and a half long distance was the favorites that day and was fourth beaten. A length then came back. Got back on the dirt and won by two lengths. You know the last effort was a springboard mile beat nineteen and a half lengths but i think horse graphs by vancouver Out of kitten's joy. mayor you know. It just feels like the number. Three women vigors giving you a ton of value at eight to one. And i think is going to be well spotted. I don't think the i think has a little bit of tactical speed isn't going to be too too far back from what that remington park effort looked like but this three year old gelding. I can make some noise And if you get that. I think that's a real nice proposition and wanted to have on the ticket and One hopefully get home because then the number say ones okay but the the question marks i guess are to the outside as well the number nine river ruler in the ten spotted ball scott young trains the number nine breath kowloon's hoon's trains the number ten. Both of them are trying tear for the first time. They look like they've got the speed towards the outside. They're going to have to go. I think one of them definitely the number nine river ruler is going to go and be up there with those leaders. It just depends on if they take to the graphs and if they're gonna take them all the way around. But i think the number three is shown you a little bit of something on turf. I think at that age salon proposition there. I think that offers kind of value here in the spot and you brought up the same element that i stressed earlier. That all these stretch outs i. In addition to you know moving dirt to turf and That seemingly is going to guarantee a pace in here. I would think chris and so i- texas bad boy caught my eye for that reason. And because he was a winner at first asking and he came from off the pace and then i saw kevin shoals crazy numbers dirt to turf. He's five his last eleven over the last eighteen months. You're talking me into it. It's one to add other ticket. Twenty two one to one kicks off the pick. Six and the numbers are there so The horses done nothing wrong. You know anytime. They win at a little bit of a price like that. I think you know there's some ability there just weren't on the board and you're going right back to the twenty one shot first time turf. The numbers of their like you say It's a good long shot to have. You could be right and jessica paquet. We talked about her. She she likes the number four generators she felt like there was a ton of turf pedigree in there at the one offering value. So rates number five looks like you can go a lot of different directions as we are right now and I'll side with the three but you you might be talking into the thick to throw that one on some tickets for now. I'm glad you and i'm glad you talked about women vigour because at least he's got turf experience his second career start which doesn't look like much on on paper and forty seven buyer and forth but he was only beating the length and it was too turns and then subsequently larry stroup has been running him a mile so this is a horse. That's been around for repeatedly and that's going to give him an advantage over some in here that are going to be negotiating terms for the first time and a bunch that are going to be trying the grass. So there's a lot going on in this opening leg and We'll see if there's anything that the board at least this race considering to me it's the toughest of the sequence. At least you'll get a read Maybe the board helps us a little bit when we're making our final decisions. The second leg is a straight second level allowance going a mile on the main track and You've got a couple of horses. I thought that you know that were very obvious. there might even be people on budgets that are going to try to single vice versa. Yeah i kind of went away from that. I for some reason. I just wasn't. I looked at vice versa has won three in a row. last time was at that optional. Fifteen one five thirteen lifetime. Four eight and twenty twenty. Everything says this horse is an absolute standout in here but there was just something that just wasn't really clicking for me here in this spot. Looks like a big favorite going to turns is going to have the outside post. I think is going to work out the right trip but i think you can catch the stuart elliott. New mexico came back at remington park. Was running those lawn park and and the form kind of tailed off but then was right around this five to one price on the morning line here today but this five year old by malibu and i think that this horses may become back at a different horse you know just a maintenance move there for for a long fifty to one going on december nineteenth and i think is probably kinda help form and i think this is where you take a shot. You know rubber. Tina theodoros got sue horses in here. He's got the number seven vice versa. He's also got the number two dreams of vows. Running in del mar mile. Three starts back on the turf at del mar. They're both gonna take a ton of action in here. But going back to what i was saying if i'm gonna be against the favorites this type of favorite that. I wanna be against here in the spa. Because i know everybody's gonna play him on the ticket so if if i can get around these two favorites here Then i feel like i've created a ton of value on my tickets if it's in the pick three or we're looking at the pick six and even this one the first leg of the pick five so the five mexico i felt like that's where the value is because maybe the courses come back To to some of those early efforts early on in the career you know. The horses backed up at oaklawn park. But this did show the way and then drew away one by two legs. So was the source is better than the field that day or has this five year old by malibu moon really started to improve. I'm gonna go with the sources starring prove and starting to find itself really well at five years old and can put these back to back efforts together and i'm getting picked on elliott well and new mexico. You mentioned st louis and Steve asmussen new mexico. Clark brewster and f- from an ownership standpoint and we should note that in addition to stephen and his longtime friend client and attorney clark brewster there's also the wind chill home-bred in here rotation Who's gonna make the five year. Old debut raylucia eras jumps aboard. This is the being out a free spin. This is a full brother of aperture. And he's been okay. He won the super derby going back To his three year old year but he didn't really go forward as a four year old and so that rotation starts his five year old season here too and we can't move on without at least mentioning the other asmussen but Stuey was on him in the hawk at remington in the hawk memorial and Which broberg one with with the streaking hunk of burn love but We sides with mexico In in here so second leg of this space city expects third leg is a five thousand claimer going back to july fourteenth non winners of two and this seem pretty straightforward To me chris griffin with us from sam houston and aj's grand and and class euro. You know seem to have an edge over this group they do. But i actually run away from them. I went away from boca. Juniors take a look in the last few efforts from age as grants Like you say two to one has run at the five thousand dollar level third beaten eight lengths last time But there were some return winners at that rate so that might have been a better rate. The number six high-class euro. As you say steve. William soon comes out of those sacred events. Now in open company i'd like to eight undivided right to the outside of them can kind of take a look at both of those favorites. The numbers seemed like it's right there on par with the six and the seven. Amanda barton and henry wit junior. You know you've seen his name. Dt he's won quite a few races. Since i've been here saying peterson race park and he usually doesn't add some value so Or nestle valdez. Him as board It was just an okay effort last time out. But you go to back before that. A second by head. Second beaten three quarter. They claim this runner. And then also. The horses bennett. Distant sixteen times with three wins four seconds in a third so eight times into the trifecta at sixteen and april one again. Let's let's let's go price shopping a little bit. Let's take a take a shot here early on in the especially with the six year old mayor by device parts the outside just seems like the number eight foot give you some bit a bit of a thrill here in their spotted at the one price pretty wide open race. I i felt like it just seems like a lot of different things. Some of these favorites. The i dunno i. I'd be careful here for three. Three four on the six Thirty second and a fifth on the seven. I don't know it's interesting that you thought that way. Because i kind of felt like i had a little bit a little bit more spread on this ticket. Well that's fine. I it it it you know. That's why you have these conversations and the thing about aj's grand. She's kind of Alternating efforts and her you know her good raises beat this field If she comes back to that race at delta december seventh of the race then four back at louisiana downs. That actually was in the slop and she's good on a wet track But her her a race wins in here But there there listen. There's plenty of others that we haven't even mentioned that. Gps gp's amazing grace raging golddigger. I is it is an interesting to me. Because she obviously. She's in english channel and she would rather have it. Seems like she'd rather have turf and you go back to her races throughout last year on the grass and and they're very good she just not the same horse on dirt Dante pitch Takes over took this one from caldwell at remington in december and. I don't know if dan he's getting a a read on raging gold digger but Maybe she'll what's the what's the lowest level you run on the grass at sam. Houston i double check is there. Were there were changes of those condition. Not i don't think we run five. Let me let me give. Thanks so but yeah. I'm just curious i because it just might be that you know she. She's not good enough to run for what might be the lowest you're on for on the grass and so it's it's one of those kinds of decisions but she is not untalented either Raging golddigger ke- so i agree forced but No we'll see dirk that'd be that'd be a little nervous about exactly does have a couple of placements but The second half of this pick six space city pick six twelve percent and Seventy five percent to winning tickets. Twenty five or consoles and fifty cent increment a one mile. Nikko claimer. i thought this was a tricky race. I was kinda hoping to get some help from the scratch. Board carlos sick the if if carlos six is you know runs back to some of these allows efforts carlos six. This is probably going to win the race. Now there this is a this is a pretty significant drop. I mean the horse qualifies for the conditions in here Often gus in. I've talked about him quite a few times over opening weekend. Yeah real nice twenty twenty. I think he's going to continue that twenty twenty one This might be a case where they're just putting this in a prime spot for somebody to claim the horse. Because if you take a look at it on paper Bluegrass probably gonna show the way. Carlos six is probably gonna sit right off and carlos on paper seems to to run by this the stretch It just depends on what the drop in class might mean for. Better out there I i did like the number. Five trustworthy i maybe just about back. Effort has taken a lot of money in the last. Three starts in just hasn't responded But the eight. Carlos sixes looks looks tough. It's just kind of how to evaluates as the drop down to the five thousand dollar level They claim the horse repent thousand broberg. And then the horses running allowance events last two times. Let's taking money both of those times and just hasn't gotten it done so Maybe this is the spot. Like i say they drop and they just want somebody to claim the horse away But i think it's pretty tough here in race number. The question for him to me is. Where's the speed going to come from exactly to you. Know to set up what what feels like you know an on off the pace style and i there's not a lot of speed. Ap's bluegrass. For steve williams. I guess is is candidate. Celestial cowboy for fincher is coming out of a six and a half at zia in december First time for for todd fincher in here. But that one's got some speed I guess wits dollar night Has shown speed the that to me. That's part of the equation in here. Because i don't in looking at a couple of different measurements. Carlos sixes is not appreciably faster than then quite a few in here Y- there's there's that race three back when he got claimed but I'm looking at at thermographic figures for this group and there's a bunch that are just as fast as his last pair. So you know you're a bad guy His last two formidable force Is running the same kinds of numbers Ap's bluegrass is faster. Frankly so i i. I thought there were a couple of reasons to be to be suspect about the favorite In here it's a fair point. And and he's going to be sore prize so You know if if this is where you take a stand against carla sixes And you take that kind of and you probably probably off ticket you know because you're you're taking the stance that you just don't like the favorite in this spot and he's got to be a short price. I think that he thinks the five on the morning line For for austin guessing when you see his name he's gonna take money. The is taking money in his last five starts. I mean. He wasn't favored but he was just under. Was that three to one back at star on the crash going a mile at eighth and before that he was favored again three more times. So it's gonna take a lot of money at the windows and he's he's only one one and that lasts five efforts And that was at the ten thousand dollar level at remington park and and carb rather so you know the the drop in classes real main question for me at five thousand dollar level. I think on paper. He looks like a horse. Maybe that they go out and claim But yeah i if if it doesn't set up for them then you could be some of these bombers come in and see a big price in the sequence of questions the late double fifteen thousand non winners a to go seven eighths And this group has got an eight to five favorite asmussen. Brewster had st louis eliot again. Just ask joel and beyond that i looked to the outside and i thought I thought that the five or the six seventy eight By that blizzard rider rocket and valiant appeal all had some cases to be made But it starts with. Just ask joel down inside. Yeah another who wants to win. Right seven furlong. The the one has has finished second in the last two with odds-on and got beat by four three quarters length. But it's cutting back from the mile distance as say For steve elliott. I felt like the number six boat that blizzard one. That you just mentioned Cutting back from from the delta rate another one that was the beaten favourite with six seconds and four thirds You know very cautious here with these favorite. But i have seen. This is the one thing that i just kind of believe with my is that i think carl robert went a lot of seven along events here. He's very far Since i've been calling the races here it just seems like when he gets horses in this in these spots of distance They seem to run really well. And i think the number six has a bit of an edge being outside of the one. I think it's going to get the jump on the one and there is some feed in here. But i think the six is going to be able to dictate quite a few things from that outside post and do that so the number lizard on the cutback had been running at five prolong races that delta before that has been seven for a long distance once and it didn't work out but I just feel like like i say believing. My eyes louisiana bread was running against some safe. Brits 'cause back here at the fifteen thousand dollar level another one may be cautious. That has been taken money in the last restart just hasn't gotten the win So maybe you're cautious in the spot. But but i the horse is not going to be favourite. I don't think i. I think the one is going to be favored though if the one is going to be favored i you're getting some value here on the number thick blizzard For broberg and i think has a bit of a pace advantage so the number six is gonna be my top choice. nice the other who are at six to one. That feels like a bee in ear is writer. Rocket broke his maiden back in november as late. Four year old. This is a need do by that As a home-bred another louisiana bread at broke the maiden for twenty and brent davidson tried them in a couple of fairly aggressive spots did not run against allowance company at remington and now trump's back into medan below the level of his of his maiden breaker and so right a rocket From a you know if you're if you're a class evaluation type I would take a look at Six to one as well. And i mentioned earlier valiant appeal first time for danny pysche again not ever because pysche had The horse Last spring at both Sam houston and it will rogers and then how the year gonzales ended up with him for a while at south florida and now comes back to pitch so like i said the exactly exactly and ran. Okay at a at what i you know would probably is about an equivalent level. Actually even frankly twelve five nine two at gulfstream in december might even be the know. Just a scoot sh Tougher than than this. There's there's a lot of fun things chris. In this race regarding class levels like for instance you mentioned audette blizzard. Who's coming out of state bread. Allowance company a delta. So you get a a real malaj of of horseflesh in here from you know from a variety of places and Trying to you know trying to make sense of of you. Know the the mix and match of conditions. It's kinda makes the the the handicapping and the play a lot of fun and and the thing that i would like to add to that and that's where savieri park is headed you know the direction with the The added purse money from what the state of texas is done and the racing program here and get in the turf you know as in wonderful condition and making sure that We can get these field sizes Things are going to the right direction. And you're starting to see these barns. Come from all over the country. And you're going to start seeing more frank lucarelli and jonathan wallace on the west coast as well and see their name and the racing form so it just seems like we're going in the right direction here as far as our product and our program and you're seeing that on paper you're seeing these horses just as you come from louisiana breads coming out of that condition and then we got the horse now backing danny chris bar that was running at gulfstream. Park It just is a real testament. What the racing office is doing. And what the program here saying he's race park is doing so just a quick shout. Everybody that's working hard here. They're a great job and it it it showing up showing up on the track. Well and speaking of horses last out at gulfstream. There's egyptian princess in the nightcap. Chris this is a four to five favorite against the asmussen and stuey elliott and horse. That brendan brought along Four year old filly. This is a maiden special group going a mile on the grass and you know egyptian princess at a glance You know not not just the worst defeat but again a horse that people might lean on heavily in their in their big multi tickets. Yeah this is. This is one way or the other. I mean this is. This is one of those horses that i gotten some some messages from people that say slammed on you know she run faster. That gulfstream park effort is over. She's gonna win. And then i've heard other people say layoffs are a a big concern. You know she ran in two thousand nineteen then there was a layoff in in twenty twenty another layoff Now she's here. Sam houston race park With developments and so on paper she looked like the best source there. There's no question. She's by american pharaoh. She just needs to replicate that last effort. But it was april eleventh in twenty twenty and so i think again. This is one of those favorites. Where you're you're either with favorite or you're against it or you're just kind of throwing money at it in the tenth and final. I felt like. I put this one of my tickets. Scattered myth has young need to the inside is by scott. Daddy's has been going to seven and a half distance gets the true mile. Here domingo's Todd i've seen him win nightcap races here sam houston race park. You got the inside. Post horses had some time off Look a long time ago. But the horse was running five birla's at gulfstream and showing that tons of speed is still still. Has that even five year. Old mare could take them a long way or other. Racetrack is going to be a massive price. Was twelve to one of the morning line. The price could even float up a little bit higher. Because i think that money's really going to come in on the three. So i if the three's not ready and it's chasing and just doesn't have that kick off the layoff. Why can't the one Take them take them. Pretty far here in the mile distance and lemon roses turf the pedigree as well Just got her. Shout shouted again. She pointed this force out On on her analysis of the race and felt like this one is gonna offer some value. Move into the grass. So there are cases today made if you're against the number three egyptian princess for for me when i'm picking a winner is she just looks like the most likely winner on on paper she does. She's coming off the the break and that's really what i'm taking into account but i haven't followed the horse around every single day. I don't know how the horses doing the afternoon. We're gonna see the horse shows up on the racetrack and and is ready to roll. Give her a look that she comes on the track here and that tenth and final and we'll see if she's ready because if she is i think she's going to win she just she just has the better greasy has the numbers and and and she'll be ready to roll if she's not then. Those are the prices. I'm gonna take a look at. I like the number one scattered. Myth i put that one in the exact And i think it's going to be in front. I think it'll be in front. And maybe maybe get brave out there in this five year. Old american upset i. That's the only other horse. That i highlighted was scattered missed and So i'm in. I'm in complete agreement that If there is a b or c to utilize She's the one. Jesus scott daddy and You know she's careers been kind of interrupted a little bit obviously here and there but they. She was bred to be a nice source. And it's getting. The clock is ticking as they say so she is making a five year old debut. I do have to. I gotta ask you one question because You know a lot about the mingo check altana. Yeah it's funny because you'll see Usually you'll see when they come on the post raid. You'll see domingo's capanna Trainer owner jockey. They are related. But you'll you'll you'll see the name and you don't see the senior the junior you just see the the the same name three times but But you will bingo chocolate quite a bit. And like i say nightcaps were they win races when they when they tear up me they combo up. It's usually in the last i the day. And it's usually on some of these types of speed types and you'll pop them at a price you know for for ninety eight and twenty and writing for this outfit and you know they're gonna they're gonna ride together so that would be my my My analysis of of that name as the top name to say when domingo shackled tana's is rolling down the stretch similar price during the meat. I i think they'll probably have a long shot or two absolutely during the this to be sorry. Well the season starts to get Really into the into the beat. 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642 Aircraft Line Maintenance

Airplane Geeks Podcast

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642 Aircraft Line Maintenance

"This is the airplane geeks. Podcast our aim is to educate and inform you explore and expand your passion for aviation and entertain you little along the way this episode. We examined the aircraft line maintenance business and talk with several experts in the field in the news. We look at to engine failures on commercial flights one passenger in one cargo fedex sikorsky or testing single pilot aircraft now and maybe autonomous planes in the future. A possible all new design for an f sixteen replacement a mid air wedding hall that and more coming up right now. Welcome to the airplane geeks. Podcast this is episode. Six hundred and forty two of the show where we talk aviation. I'm max flight in joining me. Is max gut. He's host of aviation news talk podcast. He's a national. See if i've the year in he is an expert on the cirrus aircraft. Hey great to be back with you. Hope you had a great week now. You were driving through snow and rain and so on so thanks for doing all that effort to get back here. In time. I made it back to the studio. Yes yes also with us is david. Vanderhoek is our aviation historian and military aviation expert. Hey everybody i'm i'm here. snowed in. We got four inches of snow when they said one. I'm kidding i guess i'm getting kind of tired of snow and i'm surprised max made it home in time but i'm looking forward to a good show. There's going to be a lot of explosions in stuff to talk about. Yeah unfortunately all right well. Let's introduce our guests. And i say plural because we have two guests this episode. They're both from fem- fam. That's a family. Owned company. Headquartered in miami florida and they provide line maintenance repair and other emroe services to domestic international commercial and cargo airlines transiting. The united states now they deliver these services through a network of line stations and fem- holds approvals for all current and next generation aircraft including the boeing seven. Eight seven in the eighth three fifty. So i introduced fred murphy. He's the founder and president of fem- now the company was started in nineteen. Ninety-two is fred. And everett's aircraft maintenance get it if a. M how fred had vision and he saw a niche for a third party maintenance provider the could deliver high quality maintenance at a reasonable cost now. Twenty nine years later has grown from zero to nearly a hundred million dollars in revenue that was projected for twenty twenty. So fred welcome to the airplane geeks podcast. Thank you max at appreciate you having me on board tonight and i look forward to a very spirited conversation with you all we do to and to help us with that. Is cam murphy now. He's the managing director of team. And of course is the second generation in the family business now since he grew up in the business cam has experienced almost in every department everything from janitorial services and stockroom clerk to shadowing technicians on the flight line and various management positions while cam joined the leadership ranks and twenty ten with the vision of scaling the business now he and the team succeeded at that in what was once. Two guys in a truck is now about eleven hundred technicians in thirty international. Airports fem- has maintenance certifications in the us but also international certifications include korea. Singapore europe australia. Japan in bermuda cam has an nba in aerospace and defense with a greenbelt certification for lean maintenance repair and overhaul from university of tennessee's college of business administration and this is pretty impressive in two thousand seventeen cam was awarded the forbes thirty under thirty award very cool cam. Welcome to the airplane. Geeks excited to be here. I listen to your get podcast with. This is super super cool. So very grateful. So that's a bonus when we have a guest that's a listener also. There is a a line in there. That i really liked. It was two guys on a truck. And i was thinking fred. Good good thing. You didn't choose. That is the name of the company. I kinda outgrew that a little bit. That's really probably just a little bit. A true story really did start out. Just like two guys and a truck in all seriousness. It's amazing what you can. You can build with a lot of hard work and in the little bit of talent along the way to the help of other people so his exciting. We're going to dive into the aircraft. Line maintenance business with fred and cam shortly but first of course we're going to start with some aviation news from the past week. So is everyone ready. Ready from the west radio off mute. All right well we'll start off with a new york times article united flight sheds debris over colorado after engine failure. This was united flight. Three to eight boeing triple seven dash two hundred the experienced an engine failure shortly after taking off from denver international airport debris fell along the aircraft's flight path. If you've been watching the news you can see some pretty dramatic in large pieces of engine cowling and so forth sitting in people's front yards how the plane returned to denver and there were no injuries. Well united airlines has announced that they're going to ground. Twenty four of the boeing triple seven aircraft that they have operating powered by the pratt and whitney. Pw four thousand series engines. Japan's transport ministry is instructed. Japan airlines and all nippon airways to ground their boeing triple seven's the faa has issued an emergency airworthiness directive. That would require a mediator. Stepped up inspections of boeing triple seven airplanes equipped with these engines. And as for boeing boeing says we recommend suspending operations of the sixty nine in service and fifty nine in storage triple seven's powered by pratt and whitney's pw four thousand one twelve engines until the faa identifies the appropriate inspection protocol. Boeing supports the decision by this japan. Civil aviation bureau in the faa's action to suspend operations of triple seven aircraft powered by the pow four thousand one. Twelve engines If says are rather boeing says we are working with these regulators as they take actions while these planes are on the ground in further inspections are conducted by pratt and whitney so the The footage and of course we have quite a bit of footage captured by passengers out. The window It very dramatic and not the kind of thing as a passenger. You wanna see after you hear a loud bang and look out the window. While i think the most amazing coincidences that there was a seven forty seven that shed engine parts on the same day Or the netherlands as it was headed to as jfk. So that's pretty unusual. I think to have To kind of uncontained engine failures. At least i think the other one was as well. I mean max how frequently these kinds of events happen well. They happen occasionally Sometimes you have engine shutdowns but Big failures like this catastrophic failure like this don't have very often which is good There's a lot of different reporting. That's been going on and of course as we all know that after you have a an incident like this. It's easy to speculate But it's Difficult to do accurately because we still have the facts yet Some people are saying this is an uncontained engine failure I'm not sure it is At this point it's hard to say We do know that And this is from the ntsb as well as examination of some of the images captured by passengers and others that There are apparently two blades to fan. Blades that were fractured presumably. They're the you know the cause of Of the engine failure We don't know is what caused the blades to fracture at this point. But you know one of the things in. And i. I think as most of you listening no i had a long career. Pratt and whitney and I am by no means a spokesman for pratt whitney at this point but you know being in the business whenever there is a you know an incident like this. You kind of get pit in your stomach when you realize that you know is the engine that You know that you manufactured Now sometimes the the root cause ends up being a problem with the design or a problem with the engine. Sometimes it's an issue with just don't say maintenance with our guests. Well that's exactly where. I was going so i bet they're happy to be here with us today. I know so. I and fred do you. Guys have the same reaction. Sometimes that you know that we did as a as an engine. Oem i mean when you when you see an accident or incident like this do you. sometimes you know. Think about the maintenance implications of it. Max i think that's like the forefront of our thoughts when we ever hear incident. You know you wonder exactly what happened and You know that your stomach description is pretty accurate. You're like god you don't wanna have nothing to do with that. Yes gone so yeah you know. I think it's a that that's definitely the feeling that you get. You know it's not a good feeling but You know we have a lot of confidence in these airplanes nowadays and even see something disturbing. You saw that. The passenger saw most of us know that that airplane This more than capable of making it back on the one engine and you know so. You feel pretty good about that. Nobody getting hurt. So plus so kudos to To the pilots who brought back quickly and safely with everybody good deal and of course i mean as as as we know on a on a twin jet it's generally perfectly capable of operating and landing with only one engine but And and the pilots sound like You know they did a really professional job and in fact a lot of the passengers when interviewed afterwards. We're very complementary of the the calmness that the the pilot exhibited on the on the on the pa system. In one thing that that i heard from two passengers was that the pilot said that he would be a routine landing not that it would be an emergency landing. He said it would be a routine landing. And that really had a huge calming effect on them is what they expressed But what. I didn't like about the report i saw. Well i say didn't like it is that At least one news outlet is calling the pilot who is unnamed at this point apparently by united. But they're calling the new sully and that may be a bit dramatic. What do you think. Yeah that seems a bit dramatic These guys in the simulator. They practice engine out. Flamed out all kinds of different things. I think that they're all capable and qualified. If you work for major airline flying trip a seven-year pure qualified atlantans thing. One engine or take off with one engine and bring it back around. So the i think putting it in the category but the soleus bit of an exaggeration again. Good job. good job on this. But i think it's more expected in that kind of situation silly. You know we know what cell again dump between out elaine. Kind of that's a. That's a lot more serious civil. yes. I agree fred. Yeah yeah so. Hopefully they won't continue to kind of enlarge the presentation of the pilots performance but Another thing we should probably mention is that this is a triple seven dash two hundred and the pratt and when the engine on that has had other problems in the fa in the past in two thousand eighteen there was a an uncontained engine failure. Same vintage aircraft. So these are kind of know old triple sevens and in that case it was found to be a full length blade fracture but it was attributed to the inspector the maintenance inspector Not having enough training to properly interpret what he saw. When inspecting the blade so it went back into service with a with a defect. I guess you'd say that ultimately led to its its fracturing and so i think the corrective action at the time was to be You know increased Training more formal training Recurrent training for the inspectors so We'll find out if this is the same issue here. Which would be a real shock because you know in aviation we you know when we have a failure we find out why we fix it so that it doesn't happen again so hopefully that's not the not the case cam here you've got to be really familiar with with that sort of approach with with your lean background there was One aspect of it that kind of interested me and surprise me. I was kind of thought. And i think incorrectly that if you lost fan blades that was an uncontained engine failure. Apparently that's not the case. I guess Those are far enough forward that there's no intent that they necessarily be contained. Is that true. And can you tell us max. A little bit about the differences between contained and uncontained failures. Yes because i. I'm seeing it being described this incident being described both ways. And at least at this point. Don't don't know to me an uncontained engine. Failure is when you have a rotating parts inside the engine like blades. That penetrate the containment case and leave the engine. It doesn't mean that you don't have other parts of the engine separating from the engine so if the cowling comes off You know that's not a good thing or if you have other parts coming off of the the cell or any of the part surrounding the engine has not a good thing. But that's not. What the containment cases meant to contain how. I have seen the one photo that shows some damage to the to the triple seven Near the wing root where the wing attached to the fuselage. I think it was on the underside. So something of wind body fares. Yes exactly fred. If that was a fan blade than yeah then we have an uncontained engine failure if it was you know an accessory or some piece of the nacelle or something i mean. I personally wouldn't call that an uncontained engine failure but the bottom line. Is you have a containment case. Which depending on the vintage of the of the engine. It could be a titanium case it could be a kevlar case Some combination but it's again it's meant to if you have a failure it's meant to keep the air foils for or if you have a disc explode or something like that. Keep them from Penetrating the case. Now they may go out the back of the engine out the tailpipe. But that's what you wanna see. You don't want to see it. Come out through the side of the engine but yeah you mentioned Max you mentioned this other plane. That was a boeing seven. Four seven dash four hundred taking off from maastricht and it It lost one of its four engines. Again there was some debris that needed on the ground. I guess two people were slightly injured. One went to the hospital But this was a freighter. Some of the early reports suggested it was a long tail. Aviation converted freighter think it was originally Delivered to singapore singapore airlines in nineteen ninety one but and Same engine model. Bwi four thousand but Same agent family. I should say but a different model. That was a pow forty fifty six on the seven. Four seven on the triple seven at set w forty seventy seven higher higher thrust engine on the The triple seven but yet to practice with the engines and the same day not good amax. The ntsb just reported That it's to metal fatigued. Blades broke off the start the process. And there's actually they just put a picture. One is one is shattered about three quarters down the blade. the other one is completely broken off from The hub so that's what the ntsb is reporting as of ten minutes ago. So i wonder if one took out the other his lot of stress at the route. So if i had to guess which is probably not a good idea but if i had to guess maybe the the one that broke it the fractured at the root. Maybe is what took out the other one. I don't know we'll we'll certainly find out. I would agree. I i would think that's where the greatest stress is going to be in where you're most likely lose it. Yeah yeah all right Let's see next up we have fedex and sikorsky. This is from The air current from john oster our fedex and sikorsky quietly begin single pilot tests for cargo airliners. And that's an interesting combination max. It is And so this particular case they are looking to take the are forty two three hundred which is a turboprop which in a pastor configuration would have about Forty eight seats if it were all economy so pretty good size Turbo prop and typically. That's flown with two pilots and fedex. According to this report is working with sikorsky to allow single pilot operation. Now the i think a lot of people will get a kind of think. This is fairly big airplane for for single pilot A pair of Two thousand shaft horsepower. Turbo prompts on each side But you know this is certainly the kind of thing we're hearing more and more about. It wasn't but a couple of months ago. We were hearing that reliable. Robotics was working to allow the cessna caravan to be operated remotely with no pilots on board. Of course that's a smaller aircraft typically in a ten seats But still just kind of shows you that the the direction things are going and i guess the applications are single pilot operation of aircraft. But i think they're also kind of looking to you know. Extend this potentially in the future to economists economists aircraft for sure from two to out one zero eight right and with a caravan. it's already one So this is a two way. We'll go from one zero. Now these These trial flights are taking place at the oxford airport. Which is just down the road from me as it turns out. That's where if that sounds familiar. That's where the the c forty-sevens in the other aircraft gathered together as the day squadron. That went over the flew over to europe to take part in last Last note that was two years ago. Two thousand nineteen i guess. Yeah For the seventy fifth anniversary so yeah. That's just down the street. Practically i should to oversee what i can see. Yeah let's get some firsthand reporting here. Tell us what's really going on that. We have an item from the drive here. Force boss wants clean sheet fighter. That's less advanced than f thirty five to replace f sixteen so the united states air force is thinking about an f sixteen replacement and when option is to consider an all new fighter. David why would we want to replace the f. Sixteen that old airplane well. That old airplane has lasted the test of time. We went back and bought at fifteen. So evidently aircraft built in the sixties and seventies. Were really well designed and not so much. The eighties nineties two thousand aircraft. But they want something of the class of the f sixteen now will rope her head at the end of last year. Suggested that maybe. We buy the latest block of f16's Which are well more advanced than our current f sixteen fleet however the f sixteen easing fs are not what. The current secretary of the air force is looking for. He wants something something a little bit more advanced something in the class of an f sixteen but with digital technology of say an f thirty five. The f sixteen fleet currently is not really capable to integrate with the digital fleet that the air force is looking for and the ncaa d. the next generation air defence fighter. Air dominance fighter. I should say is going to replace the f. Twenty two so we need a low end aircraft that we can deploy to licks low-intensity conflicts like afghanistan or syria where we don't really want high-value aircraft like the thirty five operating but we want to be able to provide a tactical air environment. So we'll see. I mean right now. This is just in people's heads. It is kind of ironic that the air force is looking for an f. Sixteen now if you go back in the nineteen seventies the air force went kicking and screaming into the lightweight fighter program which spawned two probably the best fighters in the world have sixteen and eventually the f. eighteen but they didn't want something with a single engine and lightweight it the f sixteen is substantially bigger now than it was but we're now in the twenty first century and both the fifteen the f sixteen and the f. Eighteen are still in contention to replace the current fleet of the fifth generation fighters. Thirty five twenty two. So we want a four and a half fighter. That's probably more like four three quarters but not quite at thirty five or f twenty two thing and the f. Twenty two is not a tactical fighter. It's not even though it can drop bombs. It's really not designed to do it so we'll see there's money in the budget to look at paper and do the study and then we'll see what happens if a decision is made whether to go with the late block. F16's which are coming off the line right now or go to clean sheet. Which i would be. I mean ten years twenty years if feels like in probably not inexpensive right can you. Can you design a clean sheet of paper fighter jet even a you know something not as complex as an f thirty five. Th these days at a reasonable price i. That's a good question. I mean we're the next generation. Air dominance fighter. The air force said. They've already flown. You know and the rapid production mentality right now of the air force as they want to be back like. We were in the fifties where we were having a new aircraft. Come off the line every two or three years and we'll see if anybody actually has in. The manufacturing world has an appetite to do this. You know lockheed's kind of bogged down with the f thirty five and f sixteen production northrop grumman is bogged down with the beach. Twenty one follow onto the be two. There's not a lot of manufacturers out there anymore that will and then there's bowing its left so not sure who would want the appetite currently to take on another fighter project even if it might give them fifty years worth of production interesting all right moving onto something completely different. How about getting married. How about getting married on an airplane. Boy you're looking at me when you said how about getting married and i was thinking. Geez i dunno. Maxa i think i see. Yeah yeah yeah. We're just kidding around here. So this is a great story that comes out of Australian aviation dot com virgin host mid air wedding on seven thirty seven on this case. I think they're talking about virgin australia but This was a couple. They wanted to do something special for the wedding so decided to get married on a airplane. In part of the irony. I think is that the The bride actually is a wedding planner. Said that she's organized hundreds of weddings. And i wanted something different for us. I'm surprised you didn't just say. I'm tired of planning weddings. Let's do something simple. Which probably elope kind of what they did But they Apparently coordinated this with the airline because The crew passed out buttermilk biscuit wedding favors in the shape of a love heart and they had their own celebrity wedding celebrant to marry them Tony goldsmith and the had one hundred and fifty strangers on board so clearly this. Was it a not not a charter flight. This was just a normal flight. Great picture of the Bride walking down the aisle literally. The i'll between the seats carrying it looks like roses. And she's got her mask gone and she's got A wedding dress on pretty cool. I mean we've talked every once in awhile about Interesting things that airlines have been doing to generate business. Who knows maybe. This is a whole new opportunity. Maybe when you book your ticket on united there's a check box which will say get married. Yeah and and you can consummate the marriage now become part of the mile club. Same flight ladies and gentlemen but also passengers got a a wedding favor a little little wedding favor Buttermilk biscuit in the shape of a heart. And that's probably more than most airlines are serving these days on the flights. I'm sure they were very grateful for this by the way this flight was between melbourne and sydney. So i'm thinking that's probably only a couple of hours at the most for that particular flight so seven thirty seven But yeah i think this is probably the best in-flight entertainment that any airline is providing right now when when when the passenger start doing. Ymca in the reception portion of the flight do they have to rebalance the aircraft everybody to either that or the electric slide. I mean there's a lot of there's a lot of. I have a lot of thoughts about this wedding on the flight kind of thing. That's when you talk about weight and balance i read that in the days of the dc three airliners that Captains would say that they could tell when the flight attendant was walking up and down the aisle just by the need to retrain the aircraft. So yeah i mean if if you get everybody to move in one direction at once you might might feel it up there. Of course the autopilot might take care of it so you don't feel it all right. Let's talk line maintenance with fred murphy and cam murphy cam let me ask you a quick Sort of baselining question when we talk about aircraft maintenance is it useful to make a distinction between line maintenance base maintenance yes you know. I think why made is in that immoral category but specifically line maintenance It's a it's a coming Aviation in general is so fragmented when it comes to immoral industry. There's so many. So i think you have to kinda for line maintenance from everything else even though it touches a little bit of everything in in aviation so line maintenance refers to maintenance where you don't take the aircraft out of service it's it's mainly on wing on wing maintenance. I mean for us specifically you know we're doing a lot of work with International and domestic air cargo and passenger carriers man charter as well. It's li- maintenance always everyone is is. It's there's so many different facets of for us we get touch allied aircraft on a daily basis. So it's fun for the female team day in and day out fred. Maybe you can tell us a little bit about who performs these kinds of line maintenance services who's in the business and and maybe even more interesting how that's changed over time so you know when i first got into the business almost thirty years ago in those days it was mostly the legacy carriers working with third party work for lying meets so when i first started out i worked at twa. For a few years we would serve his whoever came or whether it was a qantas or singapore airlines whoever came into the airport those in those days and then gradually it sort of evolved away from and Today you know there's there's a few groups besides ourselves it's still kinda highly fragmented. There isn't really one huge provider. That's got a vast majority. It's not as simple. As you know. Boeing and airbus split up the whole manufacturing market But it is getting it is there's more consolidation going on eventually. It's gonna be a little bit. Were down to a few players. I think is it fair to say that In the past maybe more airlines themselves had engineering divisions and. Did you know a lot of the work themselves. And in over the years we've seen less. There's still some big players certainly lufthansa technique. And i mean there there are some others that do a delta of course delta tech ops but in general airlines have I guess decided to focus more on their core business. Which is not maintenance. Yeah i think it's it's definitely evolved. A little bit you know earlier on what would happen is line. Maintenance was really such a little part of the whole business. Generally they tried to push everything as you said to the basement. It's everything could would wait to the see chat. Wait for the wait for the check and all you were really trying to do is get back to the main base. You did enough work. Keep it keep it going back to the main days. Today is kinda bald now. The idea is We don't want to do as much in basements. We wanna keep that visit a shortest possible and you know what we got grown time every single day. It's a little bit of ground. Top scheduled scheduled schedule is scheduled so now the way. The maintenance programs are written particularly With boeing airbus aircraft is that A lot of this stuff is all. It's all done on overnight type stuff and the checks are not anywhere near what they used to be in terms of the hip checks and so that's kind of evolved to where organizations like ours are more capable that was something that really didn't exist. The capability were delta. Bigger to you know especially if they're at do this themselves. And that's kinda changed now a little bit. So you're starting to see. More carriers outsource at bigger locations. Regional carriers do even their vote. We end a couple of regional carriers that That were operating a major upgrade for a lot of flight. So that that that's kind of a training okay. Time to time to be my usual ignorant self. I know what you're going to ask. I know what you're okay guys. Break down to me. Give me a complex job that you guys would do. And maybe a simple one. What what exactly are you doing to the airplanes besides pulling them around and climbing on top of them and looking at them and max was that what he was going to ask you how online maintenance can be literally anything it can come in a thrust. Reverser does work Autopilot in chapter the glide. Slow these guys can write up. Anything could be worn tire. It can be the coffee maker. Doesn't work i mean The other doesn't work. I mean it's it's it could be any of these things any all the energy. It could be an engine change the airplanes now for twelve eighteen hours where to the or a catering truck. It's the airplane or a loader. It's the airplane. You got sheet metal or composite repairs. Or i mean just the list goes on and on so you know why maintenance gotten more The scope is bigger and and it even includes now up to what they call it used to have used to have a bs checks as it's just pretty much go as a to see and as are now part of li- made me so we'll have the airplane for example seven four seven or seven six seven down for seventy two hours to do an h. Go through the airplane. Wars built the engines. Do all kinds of stuff. That's all still considered line maintenance. Now i'm curious. How much are your work scheduled in terms of. Hey we're gonna change this engine out versus hey the catering truck just hit it and we need to get this thing back up in the air there is some scheduling in terms of engine changes and time-limited components but a lot of it is driven by non-routine type events. A lot of it has been engine failures. you know. Uninjured has a lower school during a check or scheduled ground time. It doesn't pass the boris go. It's coming off the way and they make a decision i think. That's big and being a line maintenance provider in a supplier that you have to have that agility to do those things. They can't handle the schedule versus on scheduled. Work and keep people balance That's why for us. We invest so much in the female team. Having skillman trained people at each location. So that if something does if a plane does go gee we can. We can come cam. Are you able to perform all these kinds of repairs and maintenance using your own employees or do you also have Other other partners or other No you subcontract out of there are others. That are involved in it as well. We i mean everyone for the team are all direct hire were not of contracting very specific job were partying with the air carrier that we have subcontract work. Everything we're doing day to day are direct own training program here which due to covid. We've had to move to online training programs to to accomplish a lot of those things. That's really impressive to me anyway. Because that means you have a lot of different skill sets You know involved. I mean because it be mentioned everything radio tires to composites to. I mean there's so many different airframes different engine makes i mean. How does one company know everything that's required in order to perform this kind of maintenance. It's it just it seems Like it would be impossible. I would say that You know we're very blessed to have a founding roots with two guys in a truck. They've seen almost anything. And everything. And i think what that's allowed us to do as an organization is to be agile and to be nimble and You know we don't. We don't have our own airlines or customer. We go over and beyond what other liming is providers would do for these customers and i think I lend my father kinda way in here is. Experience has shown him kind of the and downs. Of what can happen day to day in the world when things are unplanned. And there's a lot of unplanned maintenance and then some i think that that allows us to be nimble because we've handled so many of them and we have over twenty nine years of experience with that curious for example the airlines with these random problems at pike crop up by having crews that are on reserve and having a extra airplanes that are available to be pulled out when one goes down. How do you do that from a you know people scheduling standpoint. Do you have a some. What of a reserve of crew that you can pull in or it. Just tell people to drop what they're doing because there's something more important that's cropped up. No you know. I think that there is a sort of a workflow planning that goes on. And you know we're forecasting out elect twelve hours ahead and so we can kind of predict what's coming in what's scheduled and then when you know we'll if we have any tiny issues were there some unscheduled stuff that happens unforeseen events You know typically the workforce the way they're working is half at the guys. were on half. The guys who are also we have access to call in additional support that we need and be able to take over the peaks and valleys up down. So that's something that we've gotten really good out in terms of magnitude manpower you know one of the other thing that differentiates us from other linemates providers to is that we have a lot of facilities. So we have a brand new hangar built in cincinnati. it's a hundred and three thousand square foot facility. That'll do two seven six seven zero seven. Four seven silicon. Do jobs indoors we we have. We have a fairly large hangar. Miami we can do a certain six seven as well so we're sort of this hybrid where you know when you were asking earlier about being able to do all these different skills sets it's because we have facilities and the capability to do these things that we've we've added the ability Because the last thing was a line maintenance provided one have to be able to do is have to call it like others to handle something that you can't. It's it's pretty rare that we gotta colton somebody else. There's a few specialty skills like going into inside the fuel tanks. There's a special group of guys that does that Things like that. Because i don't want that job. thank you know. Nobody really wants john. That's a tough sell. Yeah you mentioned the different facilities that you've opened a new one but You you have quite an number of Of basis that number of facilities around the country have what's driven the locations that you've chosen to a lot of times. It's customer customer geared Cincinnati for example one of the largest cargo growing airports in the entire country bit. It is absolutely exploded with ecommerce. The operators that are there are. It's just incredible the growth. It's gone on the air and Miami has always been a big cargo airport as well as a huge passenger international market as well So for maintenance facilities those were two that just made complete sense to to have facilities there. We also facility a jfk as well that we can operate out of the nets another international and cargo market. So it it it really kind of those. Three locations were very key in kind of been supplied the whole network. I'm curious the pandemic affected the airlines in huge ways. Their flights were down. Probably about fifty percent did that affect your business and in some sense to that allow a maintenance that might have been deferred to get caught up on. Or how did you manage your business differently. During the pandemic i think look certainly coded was was hard on on everyone i think. One of the benefits We to airlines as being a party might align provider was that we allow them to scale down. We had international carriers that were flying in fort. Lauderdale that You know they combustible Flight stopped so we were able to take those individuals at sites. Move them to to miami To service the growing afraid market and when that same international customer wants come back to fort lauderdale where able to scale up where they have. Zero downtime whatsoever. I think code is relieved. Push technology in aviation. I think it's also pushed this kind of insourcing versus outsourcing conversation Because you want a supplier that you can outsource critical function to that can hold good to a good technical dispatch reliability and you can hold accountable and can move up and down with your volume of demand. I think it creates an advantage that's Look a little deeper at the at the employees if we can so we're talking about A pretty extensive skill set across all of them Where do you find. employees assist. Talked about the tech technicians. The guys Turning their wrenches the mechanics. Where do they come from. They really come from all over. Max and it's it's really unique because it's a very diverse group. I mean even in terms of Ages in got some older guys that they're working seven forty sevens practically since that came off the line. The first ones came off the line. So you know these guys that worked at pan back in the seventies. You know which is really incredible. Can't replace. those guys. Guys are just irreplaceable and in the schools really are putting out A lot of students and what happens is they typically go to regional airlines for a while and they find themselves wanting to move up the food chain if you will little bit. They want to work on bigger airplanes so like pilots. Do you know like caravans. And then pretty soon they wanna get into the left seat of something big so it's sort of the same thing is like a hierarchy and so We are getting a and some markets are better than others. Miami happens to be a really great market for aviation town or Ancil the skill set there is jerry high and other cities of. It's longer workforce if you've got to work within so we offer robust training program to bring them in with a few years of experience working on regional jets cross trained into the uae bodies and teach them the way it's done you know on a fast pace the airline or e commerce stock market. And then i think you have to tell the story. I mean one of the other places. We hire veterans as well but my father always has an eye out for Individuals that are that are looking. So i i gotta put on the spot here debt so you tell that story so yeah. Look a veteran myself. I was air force way back work. See len forty wounds. Some probably date myself here a little bit let but You know we're always on the lookout for batteries. But i was unlinked in one day. I saw a guy advertising that. He was a a marie veteran and He was a lot of trouble looking for a job and still stick rolls on a house at the job that he had had fallen through and he was looking for an opportunity and so just turned out that we have supervisory opened in allianz field outside the fort worth and we told him up and it worked out really great. He's turned out to be just a superstar for a really great guy. Is sometimes things go like that. Diana a lot of experience Great leader and love hiring veterans up to hire veterans. Come come through anybody that applies. It's pretty much keep count get something with us so in how about the back office in general i mean so. Obviously the i guess. The bulk of the employees are going to be mechanics but for any kind of a business and especially one as large as yours. You've got to have a significant back office group. Tell us a little bit about kind of what those professions might be where those people come from. Yeah that's that's the great thing. Max is that you know. It's sorta like a in in aviation company are right. There's all these different. Specialties are so many different opportunities and it's very inclusive because You know we're we're actively looking for town than it doesn't matter male female religion all that kind of stuff is across the board and So we've got positions in in safety and compliance. That's us department Were safety coordinators. Are our our quality department. There's inspectors that work in those type of departments aircraft maintenance planner. They work with the airline. Say listen know what your schedule here. We only eight hours. We're not going to get all that done. Only got this much time and you know so. There's all these different profession Always down to people who do billing and finance and hr obviously big thing orangey technology. We have our own department to handle technology. So it's it's amazing. There's a whole bunch of skills. But they're all part of this team. That's basically in charge of getting these airplanes and year. I mean i. I think we internally we always we always say the theme because i think you max alluded sort in the beginning talents great to have you know teamwork really intelligence. That's what really really propels us to be in the position that we're in we're constantly looking for for for in. My father has joined. Cows stories of finding different individuals in in different places and our talent pipeline is not only aircraft technicians. it's we've harping from startups. That were in technology. That weren't even in aviation just because of the talented. They brought to the table And we're continuing to do that You know we. We have partnerships with with companies. That have really you know. We always one of our core values as being a lifelong learner. So we're constantly learning from innovation outside of aviation and bringing different parts individuals into the business to really help grow the team and help strengthen the team a cam a you have more than a little bit of a lean training. Maybe describe what that is for for those listening. Who might be aware. But then talk about how you're able to bring those Those kinds of techniques and methods processes into the the business you know lean lean and six sigma is israeli on. If you will internal analogy i use. It's kinda tim would. It's looking at the seven forms of ways in time. Inventory motioned waste overproduction over process in defects and really lean on the theory of constraints are really the the thought processes of how to take an organization and not you're not cutting people but you're increasing capacity and what we've we've discovered is a it's you know it's a lot of people think it's only apply to manufacturing but it's really applies a back office in everything that we do. We've seen that Through technology advancements that have allowed individual to gain additional capacity. Because they're able to do more with the right technology We've looked at things You know when when my father. I started up a give example of enterprise enterprise. Was you know. It was wildly. Partnering with a company like enterprise e fleet managed. You know we've been buying vehicles own. We know how to how to do this. But what enterprise came up with is they had shown us that when we're buying older vehicles that the maintenance call us if you really look at it over a period of time was costing a lot more than if you were just to buy a newer more fuel-efficient vehicle So they helped us really control our vehicle. Our fleet costs throughout the entire. Us so lean kinda opens the door to have those those conversations. Yeah that's I i can really relate to that because yeah. I i experienced a lot of that kind of thing when the in my career before i retired. He kinda gets in your blood though and you find out you can bring that home you know. And they have a spouse or something. Y'all can irritate. The i look at family and my dad can contest the time. This is not the most efficient way to go about doing this. Yeah yeah well and max's implementing it because you're doing lean podcasting right. You've got three of them going down. That's how guy. Yeah no work a little harder. You'll have time for a fourth and fifth one their backs. That's what it is. I know i know always that we've talked about and now i got pinged on this because we we talk about from time to time doing a Like an airplane geeks. Kids are airplane geeks. Youth kind of a podcast and You know making it about aviation but making it something that's hosted by produced by youngsters you know. Give them an opportunity to try to do that. That's maybe someday Mr trescott that'll be a podcast number four. We'll see we'll see it. Sounds good look at it this way. You look at max all these years of hurting all of us. I mean you've got childcare down to a science. And i'm sure fred has so good at recruiting employees. Here you can probably recruit some kids for you be great. That'd be great. All right so really fascinating. the teams that really interesting. I was not familiar with it. I i was familiar with line maintenance but mostly in my history. I run across Maintenance providers like delta like lufthansa like that so I mean to see a you know a family owned business. That's obviously been successful and Just by virtue of size in the history that You know describes team. I think it's really pretty pretty impressive. What about for the industry in general. Where do you are there any trends in this space. Is it A matter of kind of getting getting through the the the downturn results of the pandemic and kind of getting back to what it was or are there other trends emerging. You think i. I mean for me from from my perspective. I think as far as industry outlook i think outsourcing. You're gonna continue to see that happening more and more because out affective nece of on airline looking at staffing costs facility costs in different cap bags and and having the ability to scale up in skilled down in a moment's notice i think technology is going to play a huge factor. I think right now. Everyone is looking. At all these different data sets that are being compiled. And how really better utilize them. I think One thing you guys talked about on previous podcast. I think drones. I think that No matter which way you look and you can avoid it. I think drones are coming. I also think that the news topic you've had earlier with airlines looking at different. Ai systems to reduce the amount of people in the cockpit. I believe you will continue to see those trends and l. probably pick up are you seeing e- any Virtual reality applications in maintenance. We run across those from time to time in the past. Where you know mechanic might be able to have a headset on and see the the manual or be guided as to location of fasteners and things like that. Are you seeing any of that as a practical reality at this point. Yeah that's really happening. Already max So there's there's gore's upset you can literally do or the guy who's accident at the engine with the equipment is not the guy who's really doing anything other than a tool into the engine and spinning it for the guy who's on the other side. He may be in a different city and he's looking at all the blades and he's evaluating 'cause he's really the inspector it's just technology was made and where he's not looking looking through his little scope anymore. It's it's showing up on his video screen of his computer and he can tell you that engines no good that blais bright there stop know that kind of thing and also you know. There's some really interesting companies that are working on different things in terms of training where they can literally see with virtual reality. They can see what the mechanic is doing. I can tell him. No no no. That's not what you take apart. This is what you do kind of guy and so from a technical perspective in in impelling Guys in the field look at things and see things That technology is amazing. It's really allow us to bring up the the the younger technicians by having the skill available to them at any time day or night. And i wouldn't even say that i mean you. Virtual reality is one thing. But i think augmented reality huge. I think that's yeah. That's what i read. Yeah that's what i said. Yeah yeah audited. They're both huge. And and right now you know. We're we're building our own software right now to do some some pretty amazing things. And i know we're working with like a microsoft holland's if you will to have that ability or technician come up to an aircraft and look and trouble have access to manuals Again in that same. Lena six sigma processes. How how can you make sure you equipped you know. Are the female team with as much information and as many tools as possible so that why they're next aircraft they can accomplish indian everything. So we're we're we're looking at those things and Even my father recently Part of our our our strategy last year and this year to look at electric vehicles. Something that right now in the nation is not too much of a big infrastructure for it but Looking at how we can reduce our fuel costs and really get into that Be on the four. I know southwest is doing some things with that with tugs. So we're we're we're looking at the same things how that's really exciting. You know it doesn't matter where you look in aviation these days. It seems like there's some interesting things happening in coming along and more than enough new stuff to keep us all interested in it which is that's exciting. I like that. All right fred. Where can folks go to learn more about female or Any other resources that you might think of. Oh you don't certainly our website and it's quite good necks fem- dot. Aaron is really a lot of good information There about us and you know and and frankly my marketing team has been doing a great job of more in a lot of publications now with different information about the company. We're certainly a pretty active on dan and errors like that. So there's deficit information out there about us and we're excited about that cam. Is there a is there. A trade organization that applies to the the business. You're in trade. I i mean. I know a professional organization or anything like that sociation. We definitely for us. You know we're we're big. Supporters of the greater miami. Aviation association on. We support scholarships Through them Actually the only historical black college Here in miami dade memorial. We have a scholarship. Is there as well. We support women in aviation Some of our initiatives have us with a some different organizations That we want to see that impact not only in aviation but within fem- diy yes so diversity equity and inclusion. We put together a plan Just win to really look how we were as a company if we were doing the right things. And again leveraging outside resources and experts to kind of help us guide us through we're supporters of aviation geeks and also Aviation week tomorrow. That's a huge anyone. When people were kind of want to dive into 'em i always know with covert. It's harder but suggest going to the You know immoral of america. I think that's a great great show for young individuals to get exposed to aviation to entire immoral world. There's a lot of learning there. it's free to go. I know that they're doing something online this year and in person i believe in orlando. But it's a it shows not only how fragmented aviation is with all the different vendors there but it's great exposure to a young individuals and you know just seeing what's going on in the in the industry pretty much you're drinking out of a firehose when you're there if you will all the information that's that's come that's going around now a cam. I understand Your old man has some kind of or at least had some kind of an association with a mooney. Is that right. Yes yeah. I'll let it. He is he is a pilot at hearts. Do you still have that. You still have that plane fred. Yeah i still have the money that should let cam fly it. No no thing about flying is is that when i got into the business. I was a maintenance guy and A friend of mine. When i was really younger we started at the airline. He took him for a flight from la palm springs. And if you've ever done that flight it's not the best place to take somebody who's a little bit of a fearful flyer. The those mountain passes just horrible. I got off this airplane and when we landed outside. I'm going to rent a car and go home. Thinking of the the ban pass therapy out all those wind. Turbine so yeah. There's a lot of turbulence on that lot attorney and you know what it took me a lot of years to conquer that fear get back into airplane and end up buying moody. And saying you know what i i'm i'm getting over. This got work on these my whole life. I'm afraid to fly so things. And i got over that and i can i can say i've tonker debt fears. Let's all right well great. Thank you fred murphy. President of fem- and cam murphy. Managing director of fema of course fem- dot aero f. e. a. m. dot arrow e r os the website. Thank thank both of you for coming on the show. It's been great conversation. Pleasure max thank you for having us and we enjoy having a conversation because it was a really good. Subscribe to your podcasts. I'm gonna listen to on a regular basis. Now i'm really happy learned about it in Thank you very much for the opportunity to be on your show. Thank you our pleasure. Thank you both max and david. Nothing was fine. Well we have some shoutouts a few One is a belated happy birthday to our former associate producer. Brian coleman brian's birthday was a few days ago. I don't know how old brian is though. Do you I don't know he's kind of pro. No i i guess he's having his first drink today. I'm sure it's at least the tenth anniversary of thirty nine th birthday. Yeah probably probably bryant. Happy birthday right. Also the thousand twenty one aerospace media awards the call for nominations is out. We'll have a link on the show notes to the website actually the The nominations have been open since january so they have a lengthy nomination process. Closing deadline is march. Twenty sixth twenty twenty one So If you're interested in nominating someone please do that. 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It's called journalism and aviation a complex relationship and it's it's going to be on zoom in it's moderated by the national aeronautics association as well as the national aviation hall of fame. This is interesting we can. We can all relate to this They know that the aviation professionals are often frustrated by a lack of public understanding of aviation in journalists are challenged in giving aviation issues thorough coverage in this discussion zoom webinar seeks to explore those dynamics. So that should be interesting. We've got that in abc geek. Fests dot com. That's our little Aviator calendar of events and noticing that there are quite a few online events now as opposed to obviously in the past when the were primarily in person. So yeah there's a lot of A webinars and other online events in that in that calendar. So if you run across any Please go over to ask. Geek fasts dot com and you can just pinched her in that event and share it with other people will. And here's one for people who are really into podcasts. There is a an event called pod. Fest which is traditionally an in person event. I think in orlando. i've never attended but they're having the virtual version of it Next week march the first that they've got a kind of pre event Version of it This week the the week of february twenty-second signed up on that. And the nice thing is if you can't watch the you know the the presentations live then for a higher price. You can pay to have unlimited access to all the presentations. I'm looking forward to watching some of those. Yeah that should be fun to be interesting. The and i like it when When they have the sessions available at a later time. So you can time shift. If you're not able to to participate live well. And i had to because it's east coast based in the starting time in california for the event is four am in. I assure you the only time i've seen four. am is when. i haven't gotten to bed. Yeah that's that's a little bit a little bit way too early. Yeah looking ahead. A little bit in the In the event calendar of course sudden fund the aerospace expo is coming up april thirteenth through eighteenth. Um the future travel experience is going to be a virtual expo this year. Twenty twenty one. That's coming up in in. May also the flight sim expo. Two thousand twenty one in june and they said that's going to be a hybrid event. You can participate remotely or you can participate in person or both which is kind of an interesting interesting twist on it so Yeah if there are any of aviation events that you're aware of that are in the counter. We we'd love it if you would add them all right. I think unless you guys have anything else. I think that's about it for this episode x t doing anything Aviation wise just sort of hanging out these days. Who i am still hanging out though. Expect to get back to flying. Maybe in a month or so. It kind of depends on how things go. The covid cases are dropping down which is great. And that'll probably see me back in the cockpit soon and on the aviation newstalk this week. We're talking about the eight lessons at pilots can learn from the united airlines flight. Three twenty eight to engine failure. That happened over the weekend. It eight things that did who can learn pilots so the pilots cleared. Sure all kinds of things to learn from the way that emergency was handled. There's probably some things that passengers could learn to. That might be interesting. My favorite one was reading about a passenger who looked out saw the fire and then just closed the window. And i thought that i think is a good strategy. Why i mean seriously. Why terrorize yourself by looking at it is i mean it's it's the head in the sand strategy and occasionally there are some merit to that. Yeah and and you know what. I'm i to look out the window. You know david vanderbilt's inflight entertainment system. But yesterday i think i would follow through and maybe for once closer shade on that too. I might still occasional peaks. But you see i would be. I would be i wanted. I would like to know the fire. It sort of the rear that engine. I'm interested to learn what the ignition source of that is and y stuff called fuel. Max takes just a little spark that ignites it. This is coming from someone who worked on engines all these years you know. Yeah but wanna theory on this because you know they. They hit the fuel leshaw valve. Someone who speculated. It might have been hydraulics if you had some kind of breach there that you know. Maybe that was back there. Yeah yeah fred. Fred is nodding. So he's like yeah. I've seen that. Yeah let's to see what that engine it's like you we got into that whole contained uncontained failure thing. Because you know you could see where the cascade things were melting. But i couldn't really tell like you said wasn't the case in that area was because typically in an uncontained failure liking described. Max that's gone then you can kind of see it almost like some kind of cut away in school where you can come and see what the blades like inside when it looks like that. It's pretty bad. And i and i couldn't really see it like that. So that's why i tend to agree with you. I'm not exactly sure what went on here. I'm what surprised me not knowing anything about engines. Is the cowering coming down almost at one piece except for just the one crack split where how it came off it was sort of like that's impressive and i'm sure the people who's house. It landed in front of went. That's impressive that it missed but it was it was. I thought it was interesting. That literally landed in one piece. Can you mention with that thing weighed in a single fan. Blade is about thirty five pounds. Apparently and that engine. I can't even imagine what that cowering must have weighed Yeah i i have no idea. I have no idea. I mean it's aluminum. Yeah all right. Well we'll learn more about that. And i'm sure we'll be talking about it You know for the for the foreseeable future or maybe even beyond but in the meantime will wrap it up the we wanna thank fred murphy cam murphy from fem- For coming on the show telling us about line maintenance in sort of associated issues again guys. Thanks for for being with us thanks again. Does we appreciate it. And you find female fem- dot aero you can find said airplane geeks dot com. We have a direct link to the show for this episode. The shortcut a redirect. That's airplane geeks dot com slash. Six four two. Because that's the episode number. And of course you can reach us via email at the geeks at airplane. Geeks dot com. So max trescott folks find you in. Probably your amazing podcast. Fred and cama probably heard this a million times but you guys must be the lean mean fem- team i presume that would that would especially lean it. It's a great glad. Actually brought up lean manufacturing. Because i was familiar with that from my days at. But i wasn't familiar with it in application from a back office standpoint. So thanks for explaining that camp so learned a lot from that Yes the usual place to find me is at aviation news dot com. Or you can look in your podcast application. Whatever you use search for aviation news talk and we've got lots of shows out there for you. Listen to all focused on general aviation in. How about you. David vanderhoek while i you can find me on our slack listener team and you do that by joining the slack team by sending an email to the geeks at airplane geeks dot com. And of course you can find me on facebook on twitter on lincoln if you can spell vanderhoek and last but not least monday mornings. Excuse me monday mornings. Yeah okay. 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Excitement for 2020 Baseball is REAL; Cam Newton Makes the Patriots a Playoff Team

Brock and Salk

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Excitement for 2020 Baseball is REAL; Cam Newton Makes the Patriots a Playoff Team

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Maybe, so why is June the worst month in the world, and then I promised by the end of the podcast today we will talk about the absurdity of letting off your own fireworks at home how it is quite frankly the stupidest biggest waste of time I could possibly come up with A. Lot of things in. Really I mean there's there's a lot of things that are so very different in this day and age everything's upside down in some way, so but I'm so thankful. You don't change that just before we started taping enrolling, you can't talk about it. We're not gonNA. Talk about the weather. We're not gonNA, Talk. And sure enough. The Bell Rings Baby. Let's come out in the middle of the rain. And, gloves are up and let's go a knife to my stomach. Every time I look outside every time I like What am I gonNa wear to work today. Well I better. Look at my sweaters to school, and I WANNA wear here, June. He's actually doing in your a Seattle eight. It's July fifth. You know that I know that everyone listening knows that does complaints. Until July doesn't make it okay. And by the way we said that last year and never got nice makes us waiting on that smoke. He wants some Nice. When does that come? Did we get a forest fire I? Mean what are we doing here? Is this summer not brings a smoke. Let's go. Let's go smoke all right. Brooke this week. One I'd say I'm trying to come up with players who have never played for the seahawks that we've spent more time together talking about than Cam Newton. There are many in football. I would say cam would be at or near the top of that list. We can probably come up with some guys. Rogers is on that list for sure Aaron Rodgers has probably on there, I mean you can't help, but talk about Brady I, mean he sort of and Peyton Peyton probably the answer to this question? Or, Ashley, Manning really one of the two, but but true or false assault Peyton and Ashley over the weekend. NOPE, that'd be true. Why. That would be true for first time and like twenty years. Twenty years. Where'd you go? I was back in in their haunt. Were were they make home now and true story I was I was walking a Payton's got a nine year old twins, and his nine year old was playing Law Baseball and Peyton was coaching so I kind of parked on the road again the address to the park, and it's kind of curious to watch level of baseball and Colorado to get out of the car I start walking on the sidewalk and there was like three months right there and it's like. It's been twenty years since I've seen ashland like. An Ashley I don't know so kind of looked at me or whatever went down gave. peyton little fist pound can watched him forbid. Ashley started to kind of walk over to me so I went back up. Her was with her for bit, and she passed one of the greatest compliments I've ever gotten. She said you know I thought that was you, but then you just way too young to? Off. Thank you. Tell the police officer that Arizona. You're. Slow. You Look Young, but I actually know something that can help you look even. Stop. Stop we actually we actually have some exclusive audio. Nice of you to take some sound of Peyton coaching there. What he what he sounded! Set You. Can't even look at you. Oh, man, Peyton is rough on those kids. Yeah, all right. So been quite a trip for you. All of that all right? You're distracting from the point I'm sorry, yes, we talk about. We talked about camelot Aaron a lot. Payton, probably number one but Cam Newton on that list I'm so fascinated. Watch Cam Newton is a patriot, and it is personally. This is tearing me apart. I have to admit for the last however many years I've I've staunchly rooted against the Patriots, but I root for can I can't help it I like him. I have never rooted for the panthers when they're playing against the SEAHAWKS, but I do like Cam and I root for him to succeed the fact that you know he's going to try to. To make this comeback attempt on what seven and a half million dollars a year with bill check and I'll admit I also kind of a bill to prove that he's been the more important piece than Brady and I want Cam to prove that he can be elite again. I might have to be rooting for them this year. Which is going to tear me up inside? Yeah, this is a this is a fascinating one because you can kind of speak to it in unique ways because you've lived there. You went back to work there, you think. Did the bill ballot check show better than anybody else in the history of Boston. Well many that you were there and the seahawks a played Cam Newton every year. They played them in the playoffs. They have played him right I think every single season back and forth and EMBIID Games and meaningful games, and and really tightly and highly contested games for for the majority of all of those, so you have immense background kind of on both of those two worlds collide, and I guess before we can make judgments, and there's a whole bunch conversations around. Do you think this works yes? Of course it does. Are there people out there who don't think this works. The Patriots are now. Third Best Team in the AFC. Right I mean I think you gotta still say the Kansas City in Baltimore ahead of them based on what they did last year, and what they did this year and some of the unknown. Who is there another team? In the AFC you'll take a head of the Patriots right now without knowing anything else. That's going to happen this year. I think. The colts are a team. Like their roster. Nope, I is a is a roster that roster. One through fifty three. nope, Nope Nope, Nope, now with Philip Rivers. Air Sorry, Hayden on Philip Rivers not, but I'm not gonNA take them ahead of a bill belichick team as long as they get Philip rivers well. You've got in his career. No, what you have as far as the health and the in the got Bill Belichick, you do the only other team I would I would maybe consider putting them there. There no, Gosh. No, no, I would consider Tennessee based on what they did at the end of the year. The defense rail seems like he's a really good coach, but they also have Ryan Tannehill. Why didn't Tennessee get Cam Newton because the SEAGATE's eighteen year. Baby learned. That is absurd. That Ryan Tannehill is GonNa make eighteen million dollars a year and Cam Newton just sitting out. There say that allowed. It's insane. How is that even possible? Because Cam was hurt shoulder I think many people like clowns. Needy people believe and are very. Skeptical and are just not gonNA. Give big time money to to somebody that got that and you know wasn't very good the last year and a half that he played Cam Newton. I'll tell. You done for me. We'll take say. What have you done for me? Lately League but Ryan. Tannehill is not good. No, one thinks Ryan Tannehill is good. That guy's GonNa get eighteen million dollars this year cam. Newton was just sitting I think Mike Vrabel believes Ryan Tannehill. Good I. Bet you have. Mike variable had a chance to upgrade. He would take it I. Think of my. Grebo is a good coach like you said he is and kind of prove that a season ago. Then good coaches don't let their GM sign a sucky quarterback eighteen million dollars a year I. Believe that. Tannehill in their system can be good and really good. In fact, one a couple of playoff games and I think they played the AFC championship game. It's funny that you bring up. The old Bill Bella show that I did because one one of my only memories. I've blocked most of it. We have some. Hope so One of my only memories of that was sort of asking bell. Check off the hair boat Ryan Tannehill. Ballot check can be sort of nasty on the. You gotta hear the way. He sort of good like dismissive of you dismissive of Tanna, Hill, he was actually very nice to us off the air. I mean I think again I do think. He appreciated that when he just didn't want to talk about the Patriots, I would just ask him about the giants giants teams. He was happy to talk about Lawrence Taylor and Carl banks that was always fun, but Has. Put tannahill and he's just like. Just like yeah, Give Them A. I mean look just interpreting. Maybe he wasn't actually being dismissive. Maybe was dismissing me. My took it as being dismissive of Tannahill, but it's entirely possible. He didn't want to answer. The question laughed at me and move it along, but I. Don't know man I'll take I'll take the Patriots right now over any team in the AFC other than Baltimore in Kansas City and we'll wait and see what happens, but they're the best team in the AFC east again. I would say their odds on favorites to win the AFC. Don't you think? And you said seven and a half Mil. That's reaching every incentive I'm gonNA guess, right. I mean with without incentives and if he doesn't play, they cut him and probably not out any money. Which is just? Ridiculous, right? It is just A. It's just a remarkable marketplace. That is one thing you mentioned. Those old giants teams in that that is the one thing. The Bella check does not a parcells playbook. Anybody else in somewhat surprising at times at others. Don't take the same page, and that is they get guys that are the absolute most hungry at the very end of the line that have you know in some ways a market nowhere else to go and and get them at a market number that that is remarkable on it's. Often the not, it's not been perfect. Obviously, it worked out gangbusters with Randy Moss. That's the best example Corey Dillon probably right behind it Rodney Harrison would be another good example. They also tried Albert hanes worth and a few other guys, and it didn't work at all Tonio Brown last year. So you've seen sort of both sides of this. I don't think Cam. Newton's got the go, Antonio Brown. Brown and Albert Ainsworth. I don't believe we're mentally fit to play in the league, and ultimately they. They proved that I don't think any of that. True. Cam Newton I mean he's got a little bit of a shoulder issue, but Cam Newton took a team to the super. Bowl was nearly undefeated Cam Newton has been one of the best quarterbacks in the NFL within the last few years. He New Year last year him. Newton, when healthy is a winner absolutely? He, that's what he was at Blinn Junior College. That's what he was at Auburn. That's largely what he was over the course of his career with Ron Rivera. On a on a good team that was a very good defense, and you know pretty pedestrian kinda talent offensively. Carolina did in largely with Ron Rivera and their crew. What Seattle is done and that's invest in defense and Trafton Defense and developing defense, and and yes have a few playmakers offensively, but largely lean into cam, making everybody around him better on offense, which he largely did in his ears and Carolina. Knows how to win NFL gains, which if you're bill ballot? Check in you waited and waited and waited, and you let the market play itself out, and and really there was nowhere else for Cam to go, and you get him in the absolute perfect spot. You know that I love incentive. Sometimes you and I see a little bit differently, but I love it when you get a player that has absolutely incentivized to show that he can still be. Be a franchise quarterback worthy of making to twenty five to thirty million dollars a year, and not the base minimum deal with incentives. The market gave him this year. You'RE GONNA. Get the very best Cam Newton well I think you will to the the curiosity here. Though and I think the reason, so many of us want to see what happens is how does can play this it does cam have to play it bills, way or just bill? Cam became. Does that make sense the way? My leg were well, not that part of. That's unfair. Always fifty fifty right? You know you don't need to be. Those aren't his finest moments. Those are not the ones. He's most proud of, but other quick answer. He has two bills way. One, thousand. Yes. or we'll be watching Jarrett stood. Are you sure under center? Well, he's got played way on the Tom Brady to play bills on the field. Yes, the question here is does bill as a final. You know kick in the pants to Brady on his way out the door. Let Cam be cam off the field. One of the things Brady seemed to be so upset about. Does bill allow that? Can you give me heather? Patriots that through twenty years bill allowed for them to be them. Can't but none of them were I? Mean Gronk. Have a GRUNK. I mean there's one that's a pretty big bell checks chance to cement his legacy without Brady right. Is he now going to be like? Oh, try different. Seems Unlikely On the other hand. Is. He going to try to take away? What makes Cam Newton, unique and special? I don't think he's going on either the silk box. Post game press in the steam. PUNK apparel from Bonnet is more full monty jumpers. He's definitely gonNA. Take those things. Jumps yes. Those things. Cam. Brock? On the field. What does it look like with Cam Newton as a patriot? It. You're going to see a quarterback. Play outside the tackles. For the first time in twenty years in new, England. They're they're going to be components of you. Go back to Michael Bishop. Ron Davey go pre. You got well I. Guess now you kind of have to go back to Michael Bishop? Backing up drew bledsoe to come up with the Patriots quarterback. Who ever made it outside well? bledsoe tried one time, and that didn't that launched the Brady correal. Stay within the tackles. There's no system in the league that. In more week to week than the new, England patriots, and that's been that way for twenty years, and I've told the story once told it a hundred times, but it was the most like just just imprinted in my mind of walking in on a Tuesday night. It's Peyton to get together. Tuesday night on the off days before the Wednesday and everybody was back in the building, so we got together on Tuesday Nights Colts Facility Jim Caldwell. Had Stacey roster kind of penmanship and on the white walls all in our quarterback room he would painting would like him, and Jim would do it, and he'd write down all the tendencies defensively of that opponent. We were GONNA. Play Jim. Jim Caldwell Tom more and the staff spent Christianson would spend all day, Monday and Tuesday morning and afternoon, getting all of the tendencies and all of study of the opponent, so when we walked in there on Tuesday night you could see on those boards exactly what the tendencies were in every down and distance every situation area the field everything else that your opponent and we played the Miami Dolphins, and it was a whitewall everywhere it was remarkable. The dolphins played a four three quarters and a to trap, and that's all they played. That's it like there was no study to do. You knew exactly what you were going to face was Zach Thomas and that whole crew and That defense and then he played New England and there was not an inch of white anywhere because they were so diverse in their scheme, no matter the down no matter the distance, no matter the area, the field, no matter the opponent in this. They were just a nightmare to try to prepare for so they morph, and they adapt more than anybody else in this league and they've been that way for. For twenty years. So what will they look like with Cam Newton? They could look very different single week with him, but there is no question. There's a big part of a playbook for Josh. mcdaniels bill check. They have never used offensively that they're going to finally get to dive, I think those guys are going to be site. I think check is kind of looking forward to this and seeing what. What he can do with a completely different style of quarterback I think he I think he is over the moon I mean for bill over the moon. He's not necessarily expressing that through his through his words or his tone, but I I think he's pumped about this and and an opportunity to show that he can do it another way that he's that adaptable and and just finding new ways to cement. Cement his legacy as the greatest coach ever done it. Yeah, yeah, I don't think there's any debate about that. It will be challenging to watch I think through this offseason, which there is none of whenever they will get together and gather. There's going to be probably no contact what that looks like and how quickly you can ascertain judge how healthy he can be, and if you kind of go. Go that route and you go all in on that route and all of a sudden that footer that shoulder that injury flares backup. Then then. What are you left and with cam? What I'm fascinated with his short term I think this is a good marriage for a year or two. There's there's very little doubt in my mind. Assuming the CAM can be healthy that this is a good marriage long-term if If this were last three four years. Yeah, that's where I I start to have some questions I'm just imagining being patriots player having been led by Tom, Brady for the last few years, and now I'm being led by Cam Newton and just the contrasting styles and we've. We've seen what that can look like right when you know Pete. Carroll's a good example actually in New England the first year after. After parcells Pete Carol got there it Peop-, the players were the happiest I've ever read Oh. My Gosh, this is amazing, and it's not a an oppressive regime and treating us like adults, and this is great and two years later. Pete will admit this guys are going up the back stairway to the GM's office to Tattletale on stuff and pita completely lost control of that situation, not entirely his fault, but. But. That's the way it went and we've seen that. In other sports I remember remember watching disciplinarians and hockey when I was a kid Mike, Keenan and Pat Burns, and some of these coaches that were legendary disciplinarians, and after they would leave, you'd bring in the exact opposite. Everyone would say for a while brushing breath fresh air, and this is amazing and then a year or two later. Those guys of had been Wong. You're bringing another when you go to the mariners. Dugout Down Walk Matsu your guy your. Buddy, and then you've got to go to Lloyd mcclendon. Eric Wedge in between. You've got AARC Wedge Right. Lynch got swing. And the pendulum between Brady and Cam. I would imagine a lot of ways is huge on the other hand. There's probably more similarities. To. Notice at the beginning, and one of them is just the immense star power that both of them have I mean I I was telling Tom Jay Stacy yesterday. That that moment when you and I were walking out of the ESPN, party at the Super, Bowl and cam walked in as wool. He is a star. I mean. He lights up an entire room with a smile I. Think Shirt was off that point right? Four coat fern sport coat at that point in the parts of good luck cameras impressed. He was. BROUGHT THAT WOLF Amazing where this party? Looking for ways to volunteer, but you just don't know where to begin the Stations Bonneville. Seattle have teamed up with just serve DOT org. It's a free site to help. Those who like to volunteer find opportunities right where you live typing your city and you'll see a list of volunteer. Opportunities go to just serve dot org. So peyton manning major coaches spend their off day writing on whiteboards for him. And then he made all the quarterbacks come in on their off day and watch him study. That sounds really annoying. Gosh. And then the practice squad quarterback Tom Arth had to watch the game copies of tapes and get all the sounds and try to take. The second back. You and I hosting this show in some form together for the better part of a decade. You've never once mentioned the name Tom Arth. I'd like to know more. Tomorrow was a great guy. He's a coach now. Some soccer he's. He's a coach. I think it Middle Tennessee. No Not Tennessee state. He was ESI. Valley state. But he's. He's worked as he was, he was a Cleveland Kid. Same kind of high school and area that Bill Polian was from and really smart dude practice squad for a year, maybe two years there in Indianapolis. You and Peyton together just as little bombing experience. I never I never thought of a third member of the party. Do you cut him out of your stories? Because there's little Tom, yard involved everyone. Head coach at Akron there. You Go, Yup. Good inherited nothing. Let's be clear headed. Cabinet. and. Let's also be clear. Cow, okay. I wasn't just there. Watching peyton study I was also absorbing all that information in case. Why could disperse it twenty years later a radio program and podcast? He's got struck by lightning. Tom Arth Owen twelve of Akron. Here's the thing if those guys aren't big enough, and he's still got a little connection to his all boy Peyton I can think of a way that he might be able to help help us. Boys kind of get a little bigger, a little stronger, a little bit more fit. Season this. What do you think he's GonNa? Do to you all right? How's the manning? Took Down Aljazeera all right I'll zero et Al Jazeera. They took that thing down United States. No longer even know the name anymore it's going to. Wipe from history how? Much Will Cam, Newton and bill. They got so power how much Cam Newton and bill belichick be in the headlines every day August and into the season, and how much will that storyline dominate more than Tom? Brady's Bruce Arians in Tampa when he does stuff like this. Say. We had opportunities. One special that it did we draw. We turn the ball over. gave up sacks, just crying constantly crying when they lose. Every single time they lose, he'll be crying. What if what if bell check reaches them? Anybody thought about the fact that the greatest coach of all time might reach one of the most talented quarterbacks we've ever seen and help him fix. Some of what's around the edges wall, allowing him to keep some of what makes them great because I think that's a very definite possibility, because we know fantastic front runner winner when Cams Win, and he's pulling out the superman. He is unbelievably. And He ignites a room. His teammates love him. He is a front runner in when he is winning. Yup You're absolutely right. Point for bill, belichick check. You tend to do a lot of winning. Which is nice. Who are you to say that show ways? We've we've. We've. Got All these people that are. Condemning in San Should did this third? What makes you a way, right? I mean I've I've been a record to say I'm a sore loser. Who Likes to lose your show me a good loser number so you a loser? He is loser. There's no doubt about it in the moment, things go awry. He is the opposite of Russell, Wilson. He is got the towel up over his head. He's miserable on the bench and he he's not the right person or hasn't been the right person for those situations, but. You, don't think it's possible that if anyone in the world could reach him and tap some of that immense leadership potential. That Cam Newton has its bill belichick that goes thing to create leaders tap into people's stuff. I think it's mortgages. Break People's wills and make him do it his way. Ball fine whenever it gets the job done. Both of those things may work with Cam. I don