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Steelers Stat Geek: Keeping pace for the rest of 2020

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Steelers Stat Geek: Keeping pace for the rest of 2020

"Today answers matter more than ever before. That's why ibm is helping. Businesses manage customer. Questions with watson assistant. It's conversational ai. Designed to work for any industry. Let's put smart to work visit. Ibm dot com slash watson. Assistant her steeler fan. Welcome back to another episode of steeler staticky behind the curtain dot com co editor dame. Scofield coming at you again with some crazy geeky numbers. I think by now you kind of know what to expect from the numbers. Kind kinda know what's coming you can't you have an idea of how we're going to break things down and and how the show kinda works. We're going to talk a little bit about the steelers game this past week. We're going to talk about the steelers being the midway point of the season. And then we're also going to talk about We'll go take a user question of course a listener question and then we'll go ahead and look forward to the upcoming matchup with with the cincinnati. Bengals coming to town. So i i. It's it's crazy because the pittsburgh steelers the ultimate number that that really matters is eight. Now the pittsburgh steelers are eight note. They've played eight games. They've won every game. This isn't the ncaa. This isn't other places where style points matter style points only matter in power rankings. But you know the truth power rankings. Don't matter they don't because it doesn't matter who's number one the power rankings. It matters. Who's number one in the standings and right now. The pittsburgh steelers are number one in the standings for the american football conference. Obviously they're going to be number one of the standings Regardless because of of the only team with eight victories on this well. I can't avila team with eight victories. In the season only team with no losses on the season. The reason that i have to say that they're not. The only victories is the kansas city. Chiefs are eight and one but they do. Have that defeat to the. Las vegas raiders. And you know what we're going to talk about the the kansas city chiefs just briefly here At some point because this pittsburgh steelers go into dallas and they fall down thirteen nothing and they end up coming back scoring fifteen points in the final quarter which is most points scored in the fourth quarter cents. Oh i do believe it was twenty seventeen against the ravens and that thirty nine thirty eight game on. This is what i had recorded in my by the numbers article at behind the curtain dot com. If you're not checking out the website you've got to check out the website so much. Good stuff there from so many more contributors. We've have on the podcast side. Make sure you're checking it out. So the steelers the way it's going is they. They go in there. They score those points at the end. They win by five. I mean they should've it. Should've been eight because of three missed opportunities and extra points and i'd say three because the steelers went for two which they wouldn't have done it they had to miss two extra points They didn't kick the field goal at the end. Because as i say they did what coach. Tom says they wouldn't do which was living there. Fierce which i i meant to mention this on the scarborough show tuesday night. Which then for those you listening and nadia rain on wednesday that obviously you're listening in audio of this because this podcast is only done in audio form but from the scarborough show. I kinda meant to bring this up as you say that i feel this time it really was living in their fierce. Some people say they lived in their fears when they didn't take the ball in overtime against the ravens last season. That wasn't living in your fears. That was taking a good strategy. That was saying oh. The strategy of the best chance for us to get good field position for our offense is to put our defense out there first and him the field position because baltimore special teams were was winning the field position battle. The offense wasn't moving. And alaska you wanted to do was give them the good field position based on good special teams and defense that instead the steelers wanted to trust their special teams on the on the kickoff and have their defense set up with good field position and it worked that was a strategy. That wasn't that wasn't living in their fears. That wasn't saying all could be like let's play the field position game. Because i think our defense can stop them to me. That wasn't living your fears. That's going bolt. I think not kicking the field goal was living in their fierce. Because yes when you weren't changing the number of score you're going to need what you are changing. You know the cowboys were still gonna only be down one score that it's over five and eight. These are the numbers. You gotta crunchy. And everything else but going from seven to eight is a big difference. Because you've got to get the touchdown and the two point conversion and down and a two point conversion only ties so therefore by going up eight attached you. Don't lose the game with a touchdown at worst you tie the game but the steelers were afraid that if you don't catch it or sorry if you don't kick it if you don't make it. That could even be blocked and possibly return so to me. I understand going forward on fourth down there a little bit until i saw what played iran and they decided they were gonna do a slow developing run play on fourth and one. Which wasn't the answer there. I am still a firm believer from the numbers. Perspective of this chase. Claypool was making sure on third down on the end around that he was going down. Inbounds which in one aspect was a smart move but on the other side. Getting the first down wouldn't matter if he went out of bounce because it would have more downs didn't matter taking a game over because i'm pretty sure at that point. Dallas had no timeouts left going out of bounds. Wouldn't be the end of the world as long as you got the first down now if you went out of bounds and didn't get the first down then. He wasn't trouble and i think he had a chance to dive foreword for a first down going out of bounds if he would've gone for but you know that's all in the past but that's that's somebody's geeky number game games you gotta to play. Do you go up eight in that situation. I mean at the steelers hadn't have already had an extra point blocked and one missed. They were the fifteen bought. It was an extra point. That's what it was so it came down to that eh. they. I feel that they're losing their fears and but luckily they they came through. Defense made the stop victory. That's what you're looking for now. I'm going to kind of do this. What i very similar to what i did in tennessee. Titans game how would steeler fans feel if they would have been the team that was up the whole game and just you know they started. They started off with fifteen points in the opening quarter rather than than give them being thirteen to nothing. Play it all when reverse and saying okay. Well they're coming back to score touchdowns or getting closer with field goals but then they couldn't come through with it You know might have felt a little bit different but these are all feelings that were that fans deal with and the national media deals with everything. But you know what records aren't about feelings there about wins and losses and the pittsburgh steelers. That's the most important number is eight now so i don't. I don't want to dwell too much on the cowboys game. There's so many things that the steelers correct with that they just have to have to continue to get better moving forward. The problem is they're halfway through the season. And if you just have a bad game that's all right. You're gonna have a bad game occasionally if you have a bad game and win the game. That's fantastic but you can't keep having bad games because eventually it's going to come back to get you so the big thing is the steelers need to correct. The problem is they haven't put together an entire game in the in. The last three games last played a full game was against the cleveland browns. Which so happened to be the last time. They played at heinz field. So that's the question that that steeler fans are constantly wandering. Are they going to see that team. That took it to the cleveland. Browns the entire game. Or you're going to see that. Are you going to see that team. That came out fly at high and jumped up to a big lead. The tennessee titans in the first. Half where you are. You going to see that. Are you going to see the team. That made the comeback in the second. Half the last two games against the ravens and cowboys or are you going to see that team. That almost gave it up in the second. Half against the titans. Are you going to see that team. That started slow against offensively against the ravens and cowboys. What what is it that you're going to see. I think the biggest thing that steelers fans are wondering. Which team are you going to see. So if we want wanna look into how the steelers are doing so far in twenty twenty. I did this after two weeks. I did it after four weeks. This is really the time to do it the time eight weeks if you take this statistics and the way the steelers are trending. How are they going to finish the season. What kind of numbers are we looking at. These are pretty simple to do. I mean i think. Pretty simple is an understatement. I'm gonna say these are very easy to do because basically what you do with everything is you're doubling it and other than like yards per carrier completion percentage. They'll stay the same so the way. It looks right now. Ben rothlisberger first. Let's look at the whole team. There ain't no if they're going to have the same second half as the first half. You're talking sixteen now. That's tough to tough to gauge right now. But i also said it was tough to gauge when they were to now now. You've got a much bigger sample to look at so you know you know what there's only one team in the. Nfl has a chance to go and sixteen now this year because the only way you can go sixteen to know is did not lose any and so far. That's just the steelers. But let's look at ben rothlisberger ben. Rothlisberger has one thousand nine hundred thirty four yards throwing yards for with eighteen touchdowns and four interceptions. Now jeff hartmann hit this a little bit of wednesday's let's ride and if you're not listening to those got to. Let's ride monday. Wednesday friday great stuff so if ben rothlisberger if he just keeps the same pace you're talking that he's going to be just under four thousand yards for the season so obviously he was over four thousand yards last time we talked about these things so the last few games have dropped this little bit but not much he would be at three thousand eight hundred sixty eight yards for the season for for twenty twenty assuming that he plays all sixteen games. The other thing though is he would be at thirty six touchdowns and eight interceptions and when it comes to bed. It's not how do i say this. He the only time that he's thrown less or single digit interceptions. We're seasons where he didn't play where he missed multiple games. I'm gonna say multiple games. So with the exception of two thousand fourteen when he had nine interceptions so but that would still or he played all sixteen games. But this would still be better than that. So he has a chance and think about that four interceptions and three of them were in a single game. Jeff jeff talked about that yesterday. So i'm not going to on that too long. But he has a chance to hit thirty six touchdowns which would be more than he's ever thrown before his career. So that's what ben roethlisberger is looking at okay. And he's only been sacked ten times so if you're talking about it only being sacked twenty times in a season that's that's still a pretty good number as well so let's look at some other numbers for the steelers though. What can we expect. Otherwise i mean i can look at team or i can look at individual bounce around this low bit before we take a break. James conner believe it or not as poorly as the steelers run the ball the last two weeks and it has been for. They have not even hit fifty yards rushing as a team. The last two weeks last two games but james conner still on pace even after missing pretty much all of week one and having poor rushing performances last couple of weeks he's still on pace to go over one thousand yards. He has five hundred twenty yards. He's on pace to go. One thousand forty now if the steelers can get their running game going a little bit. Obviously there's could be better and he's also on pays for ten touchdowns because he has five already okay. Benny snell is on pace for four rushing touchdowns which is funny. That's all many chase. Claypool zone pays for. But that's that's a whole different story. But but poor. Benny snell to go to over. One hundred yards the first game. He's only had one hundred and sixty eight cents hasn't gotten a lot of touches and basically when he has he's come into the game and the team as far as i could see he's only he's really only playing on plays where they give him the ball. Which is a very thing when it comes to disguising what you're gonna do and honestly i think that's part of what's going on with the steelers offense his times is they're trying to do a bunch of different things but without disguising any of it so when that doesn't work vegas go to one or two things at work extremely well regardless of disguise. Because there's really no way to know what's going on and you know what they really need to do is based on their personnel and their formations. You know it's almost like they've shown they've shown everybody everything that they can do. So when things happen teams know. What's coming and that's what they're playing for. So that's one thing that the steelers really got to improve here in the second half the season. But let's get back to what we were gone about. Gay so Let's look at the receiving when you look at the receiving yards. You've you've there's no receiver. Steelers seth over thousand yards right now at their current pace. That's just the way it is but there are two of them. You have to receivers over eight hundred and another receiver over six hundred and another receiver over well tight end over five hundred because right now chase claypool is leading the steelers with four hundred forty four yards receiving which would make eighty eight and bird barely behind him. Five yards behind him is juju smith schuster with four thirty nine so he would be eight seventy eight now. These are important numbers to look at it in my opinion because i want to see if they exceed these. I wanna see if they go over these numbers that they offer the first half so you know bottom line is either one of them. Hit nine hundred diontae johnson. The problem with him is the amount of time he's missed. He's at three hundred ten. So he's he's on base for six hundred twenty but think he can possibly do that if he can stay healthy the rest of the season ebron coming on more. Recently james washington in the last three games has one catch now. Just so happens to be a seventeen yard touchdown. And that's the thing with all these receivers every receiver that the steelers have with. Two hundred or more yards has at least three touchdowns on the season. That's crazy so you're talking about you know the what they're on pace for chase claypool with ten touchdowns juju smith schuster with eight. Dante johnson with six ebron was six. James washington was six and part of the reason. Is this kind of blew. my mind will bit. there's yet to be a steelers running back. Have a receiving touchdown this year. Kind of interesting. I just saw that. And i never thought about looking at that. Statistically and see if that's when the last time is that's happened or if that's ever happened because on pace they would do that. So that's that's those numbers when it comes to the offense now when it comes to the defense. Let's just look at a couple of players here real quick. You know somebody like somebody like tj. What who's on pace to have forty eight quarterback hits and twenty four tackles for loss and he's on pace for fifty three tackles but he's on pace for twelve passes defense. He's currently on for early fourteenth tax. Which would actually be a little bit because teams tend to go but these these chance to denounce back here in the next couple of weeks where the steelers once again should have a team that they have a chance to to get to. But it's hard to say if they will so. I mean somebody. Like vince williams. He's on pace to have twenty eight tackles for loss on the season. So that'll be real interesting if they can if they can keep pace with that. I think a number to look at. Because i'm not just doing this to say. Oh what's it look like. See if see. If players exceed their numbers there on pace for right now does tj go over or under fourteen sacks. Does vince williams over or under. Twenty eight tackles for loss does mink. If it's patrick. Go over four interceptions get eh. He's got a phone so let's just say does he go over six takeaways. Because that's that's what he's been doing. Okay because he's got two interceptions. The steven nelson does he get four interceptions on the year Joe haden other than tijuana because about baton balls. Down the line of scrimmage he has six passes defense is he going to get twelve for the season. So some of these aren't quite as much I think some interesting numbers. How about bud dupree on pace for twelve sacks this season and why can't i. Why suddenly can't i find the the person that i'm looking for. Other areas stefan to it is on pace for twelve sacks this season so the steelers on pace to put three guys in triple digits but we'll see because another guy look at some of cam heyward yes two sacks on the year to you think he's going to finish with forty think he's gonna get higher than that. These are all things to look at. 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Pittsburgh steeler fans. This is dave scofield co editor behind the steel curtain dot com. Coming at you. With the second part of our steeler stat geek where we're looking ahead a little bit but first and foremost have got to answer this user question that i had this one comes from brian haynes. He's asked some questions before if you've ever if you're ever in the youtube live chats. He's in there as his screen. Name was captain underpants. Send me some question. This was one that was was i felt was pretty appropriate this week. His question was about ben roethlisberger and the numbers that he's put up so far through the sees now. He asked me this right before the last game so he was looking at seven games. Obviously i'm gonna look at eight games and says where does this fall to wear. Ben would would finish up houses shape up for all-time steelers records and granted. I could go back and try to look at just the first eight games with people when things like that. And that's actually more difficult to find. I just thought well. Why don't you just take some of those projected stats. We just looked at and compare them to the steelers all time. Well the three things a little look at its completion percentage touchdowns and yards. I'm not going to get into you. Know number of attempts number completions. Just because that's going to fluctuate more in my opinion on from from those can be deceptive. Throwing more does not equal good season things like that so these are three that i think are really important first of all. I have to say this. Currently ben rothlisberger has a completion percentage of sixty eight point zero six percents. That would be right now if he if he keeps the same that would be the highest in steelers history. There's never been a completion percentage higher than that. The next closest was ben rothlisberger in two thousand fifteen which was sixty eight point zero two percent so he's barely ahead of that pace with the completion percentage but yeah that's the number. She's putting upward fall. Time with the steelers touchdowns already mentioned about that that he would. He'd get thirty four if he if he keeps on pace. That would not only be a ben rothlisberger record that would also be a pittsburgh steelers record thirty four. I'm sorry thirty. Six thirty six because the record is ben roethlisberger thirty four which he did in two thousand eighteen so if he can keep up the thirty six that would be a steelers franchise record now when it comes to yards. That's a whole different story. Because in two thousand eighteen ben rothlisberger put up five thousand one hundred and twenty nine yards. Part of that is why does not have yards. Does right now yes. The steelers have had to rely on the past last couple of weeks. But it's not like they're in these big shootout games at are constantly having to throw the ball like crazy honestly the better your defense. The last passing yards team has. That's just how it works. Usually usually in the nfl. But if you really want to know where where bent projection for this year. If he doubles what he has right now where it would put him. That would put him eighth on the all time list for yards when it comes to pittsburgh steelers all seven of which above him are l. By one benjamin todd rothlisberger so that answers that question so he is on pace with completion percentage and touchdowns where he could set franchise records yards. Not so much. But you know what. I'm located ben. Doesn't have to throw for five hundred yards of a game. I'd prefer him not have to sometimes he does. I prefer him not to have to. So let's go ahead and do what i've been doing recently. And it's of tough to get these numbers at. It'll be really nice. Once all the teams have their by week. And then i can just numbers. I won't have to adjust them and spend a bunch of time calculating a bunch of stuff. Because it'll be right here but real quick gonna look at the comparisons of where the steelers rank versus the cincinnati bengals on offense defense sacks and turnovers. Both on offense defense will look at those kinds of things. So let's let's start off on the defensive side of the ball my goodness the steelers last two weeks of just fallen off the map when it comes to run defense they were in second place in the nfl. When they've fallen all the way to nights they are now after last week. They are now surrending over one hundred yards per game. It's one hundred. Two point eight yards per game that they are surrendering that has them ninth of the nfl. But on the other side of the ball. Cincinnati bengals rush defense surrendering one hundred and forty four point three yards per game which is ranked twenty ninth in the nfl. So you're thinking well maybe the steelers can run the ball against the bengals. Well they went up against the thirty second ranked team last week in the cowboys and they couldn't get it figured out so we'll see what happens with that and see maybe seals can get back on on back on track running the ball so the steelers or ninth in the nfl in rushing defense but they are fifth in the nfl in passing defense only allowed two hundred and fourteen point six yards per game where the bengals are twenty third. They're allowing two hundred and fifty six point six yards per game so decisive vantage there for the steelers defense. I almost forgot. When i was talking about the rush. The york the yards per attempt. The steelers defense there tend to the league. I think that's what they were last week. Let me let me check real quick note. Last week they were they fall into tents in the league in yards given up rushing per attempt as four point one one but then you got the bengals that are giving up five macquarie yards per rush temp. They're dead last their thirty second. So they're they're not dead lasted in yards but they're they're dead last in yards per attempt which just means teens aren't running against them as much because their offense has kept them in some of these games to our teams aren't just sitting back in front of the ball. So that's the defensive side of the ball other than overall total defense. Pittsburgh is phone out of the top five when it comes to yardage they are six in the nfl giving up three hundred seventeen point. Four yards per game where the bengals are twenty-sixth in the nfl. Giving up four hundred point nine yards per game. So when it comes to the steelers offense going up against the bengals defense Their best ranking is their pass defense. And that's twenty third so not good for the bengals defense when it comes to to rank to the nfl steelers holding advantage their their defense versus the bengals defense by far. But then you go to the offense or the offense. Let's start with with the rushing offense. Believe it or not the steelers. Even though they've been struggling last couple of weeks they're they're not at the bottom of the league in rushing there. They've fallen out of the middle of a little bit there. their nineteenth. there's they're getting hundred nine yards per game that ranks them nineteenth in the nfl where the bengals are are getting one hundred one point three yards per game which has them twenty-third not a lotta separation. There The steelers are better when it comes to the yards per carry. They're getting four yards per carry average which is crazy. 'cause there's such a high percentage of their runs that gopher on your last for the steelers or last meeting one zero or negative which is something they they've got to get figured out there But when it comes to the bengals. They're averaging three point seven three yards per carry which has them twenty eighth so the steelers slight advantage russian. The ball not a wad. You're talking four or five spots in the nfl. but between the rankings. Now when it comes to pass offense the steelers are don't to two hundred and thirty two passing yards a game. Which has them right twenty-second in the nfl. But like i say it's not like they're they're out there just fling in the ball all the way down the field. They are moving the ball with the past but notice. They're doing a lot of short passes. I don't know that the steelers connected on any kind of long pass in the last couple of weeks that i think of that either. Getting past appears calls. Her having shorter passes that they break. I like to see an increase in these intermediate passes. But that's all different subject. The cincinnati bengals. They're they're putting up two hundred and sixty point six yards per game in their tents in the league in passing not part of that has to do with their two five one record. That there aren't winning games are trying to fight back. They've been in some close games as they go. But that's just what is that. They that they do they end up. Having to pass the ball. More and with joe burrow. They have a much better passing attack than they have in years past. I mean they've i if you look at it. They they're passing yards. They have a couple of years where they didn't have very good passing game Not many in their first week against the chargers. Only one thirty five against the baltimore ravens. That was that was crazy. Just couldn't get anything going offensively but you know putting over three hundred yards against the browns. The colts the jaguars. When it's funny. Because the costa jaguars they hit exactly three hundred yards. So that's just that's more of their strength. that is i. i mean looking at all the ranks by far the strength of their team. When you look at the total offense steelers our twenty fifth in the league offense at three hundred and forty one yards where the bengals are are seventeenth at three sixty one point nine so they do. Hold the advantage there. And that's because you're generally doing two to one passing yards in the nfl so they hold that advantage in passing yards. That's why going to happen so. Let's look in a couple of these other key statistics that i like to look at which is sacking your opponent sacks given up takeaways and turnovers so let's look at some of these. Let's let's at the sax first steelers are still i in the league thirty two sacks of the year but has projected to be sixty four. I call them at that. Sixty mark i want to see. What what they do with that if they can see there where the bengals their twenty fifth. They're tied for twenty fifth in the league in sacks they have eleven so they have about a third as many sad. What the steelers do but you look at the sack surrendered. The steelers are tied for second only surrendered ten sacks on the year so there tied for second only team. That's done less is in annapolis colts and but when it comes to cincinnati. They're tied for thirtieth as they've given up twenty eight sacks per games they are giving up three and a half sacks every game three and a half so this is a game for the steelers to get after joe burrow. You know they're going to try to be stopped stopped baby. It's quick passing. Maybe it's black. Whatever they're gonna do but this is a game. The steelers need to go and different joe burrow with that. So that's a major advantage there when you look at the the number one team in the league when it comes to sacks the get sacks and you're talking about a team it's tied for thirtieth which means they're basically one spot from the bottom then you're because they're tied with one team that's one from the bottom. That's that should be a big advantage pittsburgh. Now it's looking at the turnovers and takeaways. The steelers have now moved into first per game takeaways. F fifteen that so now there are. There is a team out. I can't remember what tim was. I think there's a team that had sixteen but they've played an extra game so per game. The steelers are i in takeaways. Where the were the bengals their middle of the road. They've they've nine takeaways tied for seventeenth. There are also tied for seventeenth. And how often they turn the ball over the bengals have nine takeaways ten turnovers so they're minus one from the season where the steelers are tied for sixth in turnovers. The turn the ball over nearly as much with only eight on the season so the steelers are actually plus seven when it comes to that so those are the numbers breaking down. It's going to be ruined. This is an interesting matchup. Because once again i think things aren't stacked in the steelers favor. Yes it's nice if they're returning home but they're also dealing with the covert issues. Ben rothlisberger it's williams can't practice all week as well as jalen samuels and gerald hawkins of we already know vance. Mcdonald's out because of that. It's just it's one of those things where they're going to have to overcome and like i've said before they're playing a team. That really has nothing to lose. I mean with the bengals sitting where they are at two five and one five hundred one odds to win the afc north. I mean they'd have to get on a crazy win streak so what this is. This game is on the calendar. This is like their super bowl. They're gonna they're gonna bring their best and they're not going to be afraid to take chances because you're gonna need have take some chances. Turn out on your side. In order to knock off the steelers. The cowboys took chances. They decorate he punt return. They did any put him off. And that's i think that's part of the reason why they almost pulled off that upset so the steelers have to be ready for their biggest punch. Plus the bengals are coming off a bye. you know. they've had two weeks to prepare for this game so this is going to be a tough one. It's going to be very interesting to see how plays out but those are the numbers behind it. Make sure you are checking out. All of our podcast behind the curtain. Just subscribe to wherever you listen to podcasts. You'll and they'll be there. Give us that that five star rating or whatever. 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The Live Mike: Book Big Ben to getting the Steelers back to the Super Bowl

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The Live Mike: Book Big Ben to getting the Steelers back to the Super Bowl

"Today answers matter more than ever before. That's why ibm is helping. Businesses manage customer. Questions with watson assistant. It's conversational ai. Designed to work for any industry. Let's put smart to work visit. Ibm dot com slash watson. Assistant heads berg steeler fans at this time once again for another edition of the live. Mike i am your host michael beck. Deputy editor of behind steel curtain dot com. And we are hanging out with you once again with undefeated records still in our back pocket. That's right the pittsburgh steelers have got off to the greatest start in franchise history and despite the success. We have seen some a little bit of hate on behalf of a few different media outlets and directed towards the steelers quarterback ben roethlisberger and interestingly. So it doesn't really make a whole lot of sense because when you look at the steelers a year ago finished the season. Eight and eight. It took them sixteen games and they could only win. Eight games steelers. This year have won eight games in eight games. It's really laughable. When someone saying that. Ben rothlisberger is holding this team back. It really isn't fair. it doesn't make any sense. It's week criticism. That do not believe is fair in the slightest and it's something that deserved mentioning today because the steelers aren't winning in spite of ben rothlisberger. They're winning because of been wrought the spur even sought against dallas cowboys when he exited the game with about a minute. Thirty left in the first half to quickly get his knees checked out to make sure that he was good to go. In the second half of course he did come back into the game but in that final. Minute thirty Some some wildness. I suppose the dallas cowboys foam the ball and make a fitzpatrick brought back to about the cowboys. Thirty five yard line and with ben rothlisberger already in the tunnel presumably pads off getting checked out by doctors. There's no way he was gonna make it back out. So the steel shutters sent out one young mason rudolph who obviously started a a handful of games a year ago and boy when he was in there he looks scared. He didn't look like he did really in that season finale for himself against the jets which to cap off his twenty nineteen season. Which by all means wasn't very good. He did have his really his best game before he broke his collarbone. And it seems like he's regressed since then because in in that short amount of action that he got against the against the cowboys on sunday. He didn't look good. He forced the ball. He looks scared. He didn't make right reads. He airmailed it out of out of bounds. And see if you can imagine that. If ben rothlisberger decided that because of this major elbow surgery if and his age and just worry is in his career if he decided that he was ready to hang up. The cleats in mason rudolph continued. Be the starting quarterback this franchise. Do you think it'd be where they are today. Do you think they'd be eight nil. How many of these games is here. Of course have gone down to the wire. But ben roethlisberger is a person step up and lead the team back to victory. I i can tell you for certain. The steelers don't beat the cowboys. They don't be the ravens. I don't believe they hang on to beat the tennessee. Titans i think they still probably beat the browns because absolutely completely spanked the browns. But when you look back at this entire season it's quite impossible. Steelers could only be at four. Wins or show at this point in the year if ben rothlisberger. Isn't the starting quarterback of this team. So why in the world is pro. Football focus saying that ben. Roethlisberger is holding them. Back doesn't make any sense and they're defending themselves with with such passionate i. It's almost frustrating. Because you know how good ben roth. Spur truly is and what he's truly doing this team because assess steelers fans. We sat there and we watched every single minute of the twenty nineteen season no matter how bad it got. And then we've sat back and witnessed. How amazing this twenty twenty year has been for the steelers and most of that coming on the back of ben rothlisberger. His team is almost entirely the same as a unit. The steelers rolled with last year. The biggest change obviously is behind center. And that's ben rothlisberger coming in and being the version. Ben that honesty. We've always seen his whole kerr and you know what he's been more efficient than ever. He's taking care of the football. He's making the right reads. He's spreading the ball around. He's not making mistakes. He's not taking a lot of sacks he's not doing many interceptions except for one game one game. He threw three quarters of his interceptions on the entire year and for the most part one was was a layup before halftime to try to to try to pick up some Some points out of desperation and that was just kind of a. Gimme pick another. One was a batted ball. Straight up in the air when you look at it. There's only two interceptions this whole season. That have been on. Ben rothlisberger shoulders. Like when you look at that like it makes you laugh this guy. He's barely turned the ball over. And when the stat does reflect the the turnover being on his back. It's still really isn't his half of the time. The guy's not fumbling the ball. He's he's been playing an outstanding season. Like i i realize at this halfway point in the year he is not quite on pace for four thousand yards. He'd be really close if he matched what he did. In the first half in the second half but even then he would break his own personal best passing touchdowns in a season if he's kept up what he's done. This year he would only thrown eight interceptions. Which would be. I believe the second best of his career. And i think only other times that he did better than that twenty ten he played twelve games and then twenty two thousand twelve. I believe he missed some time with a knee injury that years. Well so better off. Birth through through eight games if he extends this to a sixteen game season ben. Roethlisberger played the most efficient era career. This guy is carving defenses and playing great football on top of that. He's not quite at the at the at the passer rating That would be a career best for him. But it'd be the best that he's had in seven seasons it would also be. His best is third best passer rating in a seventeen year career for people to say that this guy isn't playing good football it's laughable. Like how can we even pay attention to these guys. But it's something worth bringing up because it seems like that's kind of the narrative floating around the national football league still a great but they're winning in spite of their quarterback. Can you honestly sit there and tell me that. That's true the steelers. They do have a great defense. They do and honestly this problem where the best. All around rosters. That ben roethlisberger might have had his entire career in. Yes that's including two thousand eight thousand eight. Offense wasn't very good. The defense was legendary. Didn't have a great offense didn't have great special teams either. It's a whole lot better this year in two thousand twenty then even those that kind of era of great late two thousand steelers defense. Though super bowl runs this roster is really good. And that's kind of what people are focusing on the tj watts the minka fitzpatrick's but depre- get in the backfield cam. And stefan i in the middle plugging it up. Joe joe nelson and both on the outside. Sure they're playing great. They're getting all the attention right now. And it's almost like they forgot. Ben rothlisberger really sitting back there and affecting the complete opposite of games in major league. Baseball called war wins after replacement. And it really is one of my favorite stats. There is in sports. And i really wish if they could reflect that to football and really right now if you reflected on ben rothlisberger his wins above replacement. Right now if you just take it literally from a year ago. he's faced. Sixteen regular season wins. That is eight. That is a difference of plus eight now. I know it's probably not legitimate and highly unlikely that this team goes sixteen and all because it only happened once before in history and that patriots team was absolutely loaded. They they didn't finish it out and that's the most important thing but just talking regular season. It's only happened once but at the very least i. I can't see this team doing anything worse than fourteen into a and anything worse than that would be a complete catastrophic collapse. You look at the schedule. It's perfectly for them. So ben. Rothlisberger this year legitimately just. His impact alone is going to be worth about six. More wins to the steelers team at ben never got hurt last year. And honestly i. I think those two games that he played to start off the air when your shaky. I think it's because his elbow really was messed up from the gecko. I honestly think that team could could push kansas city year ago to even go to super bowl last year. Think about how good the steelers were last year this year. I think they got better on offense with additional chase. Claypool and eric hebron their defense. They really didn't lose anybody. Like of course. Losing hargrave hurts but the emergence of tyson alu. This team is like it's better this year than it was a year ago. But still i think they could have pushed for super bowl last year. Ben was in the lineup this year. I think it's a slightly better team than it was a year ago but it becomes an elite team because ben roethlisberger is under center. Mason rudolph as a quarterback of this team. I couldn't see them doing much more than eight and eight again. And that's a kind of football purgatory. You do not want to be in and thankfully with ben roethlisberger back in the helm. This team is going to compete for lombardia. Really at this point in the year with the steelers sitting eight no and you look at some. The upcoming games of course got cincy twice. They should win both of those games. I don't care how good joe burrow is they. Don't have anything else you the washington. Football team The last opponent from the nfc least or nfc east depending on what you want to call them. Whatever they are. they don't win games. You look at that and you really kinda just start to laugh. It's like on top of that. They got the browns again to the last week of the year. You look at that and like the only lose -able games that you really couldn't be too upset with i. I suppose it'd be baltimore at home on thanksgiving and that game completely favors the steelers to win. Because the steelers will be on the end of a fluffy stretch and at home and on thanksgiving and the ravens are are gonna come off a stretch of new england. Which i know. They're not amazing. But then they're going to go to tennessee who they've struggled mightily against and then they're come to pittsburgh really is favoring completely the steelers in that matchup then. They got the indianapolis colts in home. The steelers a beat up on the colts past decade. If you ask me what's the one team. The steelers have dominated most the last ten years. I'm telling you the indianapolis colts those games. Typically blow steals picking up forty to fifty points and each of those matchups like legit. Go back and look it up. They also got the buffalo bills. Who who have look good. It is in buffalo and you know what that one if they happen to lose that game i. It really is a hostile territory in the freezing cold and buffalo sunday night. That being said ben plays his best game in prime time. So when you really factor in. There's a chance his team who runs the table. And if you're telling me a team. I don't even wanna say sixteen but a team that's flirting with a record lake. That say they end the year. Fourteen in two fifteen to one or perhaps even do it pull off the impossible to say and finished sixteen. No you're telling me ben. Roethlisberger isn't a top ten quarterback and football pro football focus. I believe said all speakers. The sixteenth best quarterback in football did just sit on that for a second. And just let that stew in your brain for second. Ben rothlisberger sixteenth best quarterback in football. The steelers eight. No do you remember every other team in history that recent history really out of gotten to a record like this eight not start the year like the teams that obviously immediately jump in a minder that oh seven pats team that of course around the table. Tom brady was lee. Mvp i also think about That super bowl. I wanna save forty four match up the one with the colts in the saints playing against one another both. Those teams started the year thirteen. And all the saints actually even what fourteen start that year. Your was peyton manning. Taking home the nfl most valuable player of the year. Award when you when you look back at these records the teams that start off with these outstanding records their quarterbacks usually seen as the focal point and all of a sudden the i team really in recent history that i can remember with a record like this people are saying. They're winning in spite of their quarterback. And that doesn't make any sense to me. They've been on the gauntlet of opponents. The last four weeks. That was the hardest stretch of the season by far. And you might be thinking like all barely beat the cowboys. Yeah sure that is true. They barely beat the cowboys. But you think about the last four weeks. They played a brownstein at home. That is a solid roster. Sure they beat the barn doors off them but when you look at it still a good team that they have there in cleveland. And it's a rivalry game. They were bringing it until until it was over. And i realized that that game was out of hand but still that is not a cakewalk by any means and then they got to go to tennessee and that was a slug fest. Those guys were given each other their best shots all day and then the rivalry of all rivalries against baltimore ravens in baltimore the managed to got that one out just emotional win an emotional high to win that game to you. Think that could take their mind off of football and i. It's one of those emotional games that you're kind of like They're probably not going to be ready for the next one. And then they go into dallas on the road again. Three weeks in a row in yes i know is a beat. Beat up dallas cowboys team. But the steelers had had all the reasons in the world not to win that game but they still did and you know why they did because they are led by their quarterback at the end of the first half ben roethlisberger took over the offense and he's he started doing it his way and at the at the second half of that game when the steelers decided to go spread formation five receivers and ben was just told to throw the ball over the field and he did that well. We're going to get back into some more. Ben roth dispirit talk in the second half of this episode Just going to step away for a quick commercial break but You are listening to the live on steel. Curtain michael bay. This is advertiser content. We now have two point. 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You are listening to the alive. Mike from behind steel curtain dot com. The steelers are eight. No and a feel. So dang good best start in franchise history like like. We've seen a few times. I'm sure you're listening to this year already. Well aware of that stat but teams that go eight. No one hundred percent of the time have made the playoffs. I'm pretty sure it at this point near it's one hundred percent and if not it's teams start nine at all and the pittsburgh steelers got the cincinnati bengals at home and yes. I know. Joe burrow has been an outstanding superstar rookie pretty much everything that that The analysts really thought he was going to be thing is the bengals. Don't really have too much else around him. i'm sure i'm sure. Joe burrow is probably gonna look right this week Just because he is that talented of a quarterback but the bengals did not do him any favors and there isn't really too much talent around him and not particularly a whole lot of talent. That wants to be there they did. They did manage to beat the tennessee. Titans but again the titans don't have a pass rush at all and that's the difference in this game because joe burrow's going to get beat up and when when they're turning the ball over and he's taking big hits and the the ball's going back to the other side it's gonna come down to one guy again the guy that we've been talking about all day long hair and that's ben rothlisberger. He is playing some of the best football of his career and if he can continue to play it at the level. He's playing at right now His four thousand yard pace Thirty six touchdowns eight interceptions Passer rating well over one hundred yards hundred yards a passer rating. Well over one hundred. Excuse me boy. Oh boy if he can if he can you to continue to do that. This team's going to have a extreme amount of success in the regular season. And they're going to do something incredible in the postseason. It's one of those things. That's it's really exciting to see the trajectory of this team and to see where they can go from here especially when they Really kind of a they have that final piece. That was missing a year ago when you think back about it and it ben. Roethlisberger was healthy. Go all year last year. I think they beat the bills. That's kind of embarrassing. Sunday night or that. Kick them out of the playoffs. I i know they beat the jets. There's there's a lot of the games when you look back here. All they're winning that game they would have beat the niners who went on to play in the super bowl. Steelers barely loss game. They barely got any offense out of mason rudolph and company right there. That's three more wins at the very least. That's eleven and five at the very lease and that's a year ago and that team went eight barely missed the playoffs without him and that just goes to show how important ben roethlisberger is this team and if these if these people that have been stating the obvious haven't figured out yet he is. He is the right man to lead this team. Everyone is bought in the. I think the receivers are backing him like no other. I don't think the offensive line has had a great year. As as ben rothlisberger has seen from them in the past. But i i don't know how. How big of a factor. That's going to be because ben has been getting rid of the ball so incredibly fast. He's playing football in a way that he has really never played football this entire career. He usually known as the guy that holds onto the ball. Try to make things happen. He he's the guy that's throwing the ball somehow with five seconds after snapped when this year thrown at less than two two and a half seconds. The ball's out of his hand. He is flying through those reeds. He's making smart choices when when the steelers need neither drive out of them. The steelers offense has done it every single time and you cannot tell me otherwise. And that's that's the reason why they're winning. It's it's down a certain margin. Alright offense we need you to score. Then they're driving. Eighty eighty five ninety ninety nine yards. I it's something that they've done this year the they've when they're called upon and they need to to get points seemingly better off the spurs taking complete. Control the offense and by that i mean. He's quite literally drawing up. Plays in the dirt whether or not the coaching staff wants to wants to approve of that message or not. That's exactly what's happening. You can see it in the huddle. He's he calls a protection for the offensive line. Then he turns receivers on the left side of the field. He talks to one talks. The other sends him out. He's literally telling them the routes to run. Then he does it to the guys on the other side of the field and they go lineup. Snap the ball. And he's thrown in the guy that he knew it'd be open from the gecko. This guy is on a whole 'nother level when it comes to football. Iq ben rothlisberger completely. Gets i know if there's anyone in the nfl doing it as well as ben rothlisberger when he takes complete control the offense i. I don't think anyone's doing it as well as ben is. And and that's including Mvp favorites like russell. Wilson patrick mahomes and aaron rodgers. And you might be rolling your eyes with me saying that and i need to tell you that you need to just just listen because sure those guys are great. They got the giant arms super accurate arms. And and they make those weird kind of sidearm. Baseball type throws and they're doing all these great things and they're putting up these flashy numbers but man has has been rothberg been able to just slice and dice defenses. Sure sure there's been some three announced but every team the league's been battling three and outs and seemingly those are coming when randy fichtner has complete. Control the offense and booth legitimately when you sit back and watch that. I feel like that's exactly what's going on. It's it's as soon as ben rothlisberger says. Okay it's my time to throw the ball. It's my time to shine and take over. That's when the steelers your absolute best. No honesty think about the last couple of weeks. Sit there and think about the last couple of weeks when the steelers needed some points against against the ravens. What do they do. They spread it out and ben rothlisberger calling shots and he was completing them. Seemed like he knew the coverage before even the defense knew the coverage. And you think about last week still down. Thirteen points going into the fourth quarter. What do they do. They spread them out. Then we're off the spurs calling his shots he's hitting his wide receivers literally this guy. He is continuing to do something that it really is amazing. How many teams do you know right now. In all of football all pop warner college. High school professional leagues. How many quarterbacks are quite literally just telling receivers you're on a slant you're gonna fade. You runako you're on a post and you're going to curl it's not. It's not happening and if someone tried to do that they're probably cut or benched like like how many people could get away with that right now like. I'm sure. i'm sure some of the elite quarterbacks could get away with it but how many could be successful at. It really is amazing. Sitting back on sundays and watching ben go to work. And it's one of the reasons why. I think this team is a super bowl contender exponentially because they have a quarterback that can literally say okay. You're going to run a slant. I'm going to throw it to a two yards. You're going to catch it and they're going to be here if you cut back you're gone and honestly that's exactly what's going on right now and if you don't think that's true former offense alignment are talking about it. Like ramon foster. Who who is literally in this offense. A year ago to play with ben rothlisberger for i want to say a full decade. He's literally saying. Ben is calling the place right like he is designing the place in the huddle. I if you think if you've ever been around football for any period of time how long did it take some time to install a play in training camp. Sometimes like there's some those core type plays like an inside outside zone. Play sometimes for me like i. I can remember that being like a full day thing to install one play. Get the footwork right. Get the timing right. figure it all out. make sure it's crisp. and then you run it in practice all season long just to make sure and get it better and better and rep it rapidly. So it's better and better and better and better but you look at what ben disperse doing. And he's not even doing that. They are literally coming up with it. It is truly backyard football. And if you don't think it's working the steelers are winning. Because because of this and to think that the steelers winning because of ben rothlisberger i can tell you right now. They don't have eight wins if if there's really anyone back there like on a c. I think there's a lot of great quarterbacks in the nfl the quarterback said definitely. I'd rank ahead of ben rothlisberger. I'm not stupid. But like i don't know if you're handing the keys to to to any which of these guys Do you think they're just going to say sorry. Randy i'm gonna run my own thing and some of you might think the answer to that is yes. But a lot of these guys especially young quarterbacks. They're not going to go against our offense coordinator and sure. I guess rennie's like ben's body but man. Oh man this really feels like this is completely ben rothlisberger offense. He feels the game better than anyone is right. Now when it comes to those kind of flashy awards. Like i know early in the episode we talked about like these teams that go on these these long winning streaks start the year their quarterback you she walks with mvp. For for whatever reason ben roethlisberger not in that conversation. And i feel like if this team even pulls off the impossible. They go six. I still don't think the media is going put in that conversation whether it's fair. Not everything ben. Roethlisberger is going to be the comeback player conversation anymore because alex smith of course is stories. Incredible he's not gonna have stats anywhere near that ben rothlisberger. He's not gonna make the playoffs but he's gonna ward and sure those things 'art don't really matter it's a super bowl ad count but when it comes to recognition of the all time greats. Ben roethlisberger has always like that tenth name listed in the in the years that he's even playing like you think back ten years ago when they're when they're playing in the super bowl or when they're going the super bowls when they're winning them. He was still considered a top five quarterback at any point and it makes you really wonder why that has been with the sky but steelers fans. We are extremely lucky to have this guy back under center. He is the right man for the job. He is going to lead us to a title. And i have complete faith in him that he will do. Just that so with that being said i want to reiterate one more time ben. Rothlisberger is the best man for this job. He is the guy that you should be putting your faith into an. Don't listen to the those outside sources. He is the top man for this job. All right ladies and gentlemen this has been your live mike After that week nine clash. Oh it'll be interesting to see where it goes from here. 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Hour 1: 7/9/19

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Hour 1: 7/9/19

"The show podcast has been brought to you by the capital one saver card earn four percent cashback on dining and entertainment two percent at grocery stores and one percent on all other purchases now when you go out you cash in what's in your wallet terms terms apply pride passion then pageantry of college football leaves here is the paul finebaum show our one podcast welcome back we have made it yet somehow they let us come back for another show thanks for the support welcome to tuesday lot to talk about today so let's get right to it roll those headlines guys jabbar off what's he saying here i can throw is anybody in the country is he saying what i think he's saying he said l s u which has been shut out by against alabama last couple of years score forty or fifty a game or sixty were talking to you nick saving meanwhile kentucky she's eighteen success as something to build on not rest on d a preseason mags has eviscerated kentucky basically getting them back to a ball game and not 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when they combined sixty six and five overall sixty thirty six and four and the s e c twenty nine and four versus it's top twentyfive anyone national a foreign national championships in other words forget about it that's according to connor garo so a that's that's where we are a what we do here today in terms of gas you could tell were getting the listers out seth emerson from the athletic vince duly from oak pat delay i'm sorry from gator sports dot com in sports writing legend tim may we say he's a sports running legend because he's unemployed people he retired after forty years i remain employed at least for now a an that will take your phone calls here today at eight five five to four to seven to eight five and i looked down and said a list of callers and they're all good where should i go top bottom middle no no no sorry no muss bobby's in dyers bird tennessee that's in west tennessee if my memory's correct regard had bobick hey paul how you doing today we are doing great thank you i've got a twice in a few weeks ago you reported earnings them reported that several balls linemen tight lipped attain due to injuries and the uncertainty of troy smith how bad is this going to affect a team this year team success this year an sec and mocked requests not about patriots have been playing the show wherever since the looks down scouts inserts cows native palestine hibachi on the bottom they fell by all nice and but i but the findings show ever since thanks very much so i tell a hold on let make sure we get through name and address so we turn oblige but thank you thank you very much by will put you off theorists we have not heard a lot of new information on that bobby m in indiana i think it could hurt the offensive line wasn't an issue last year for jeremy pruitt and i'm hoping that they can get it corrected greg is up next in athens alabama gregg welcome back hey paul thank you for taking my call thank you i want to respond to the comments that joe borough made a bet you just posted up on the tv set an unless his offensive line is demonstrably better he's not going to have time to throw a for four thousand yards and a score forty or fifty points a game a he looked like a deer in headlights last year when he faced better off fences in an eight of the twelve games not counting be a bowl game he threw for a fifty percent or less so i understand they've got a new coordinator and he's got a year under his belt but this guy was not able to win the starting job at ohio state and he transferred now he's the best quarterback they've had probably since a hold on a second through a i i think saying that he couldn't win the job here doesn't really have anything to do with where he is now because the circumstances and the coaches are different i think you have to judge joe greg on what he did last year and at times he was good times he was serviceable the ball against alabama he was non existent well that's true that's a fair statement but here's the thing they could win eleven games but if they don't beat alabama they're not gonna go get into the c a s e c championship and they're not going to win the have the benefit of a doubt you get in the college football playoff so everything that they need to do in order to get better has to end that juncture of being able to beat alabama them and i just don't think they're gonna be capable to do it on the road when they haven't been able to score but ten points in the last three games well the one thing i i agree with you on that but to me if you're ls you you you can't get hung up on that alabama game right now you you have a brutal second weekend game in austin and i'm not another way that the season's not over if they lose a game this season is over saint lucy alabama game but they they they need they need a quick start though this is a team that i i don't know i mean i i liked their enthusiasm i'm a fan of what they're doing but saving it for the games okay don't don't run your mouth and they all season well i think they'll start off really well and i think they have a good opportunity d you don't think they made alabama do no not this year i just don't say there's a logical pass a barring some unforeseen injury three two two or some of an some other players on that team that's going to tell me otherwise because they have not demonstrated a under any kind of situation that they've been able to beat alabama well another thing that that's gotta be obviously that's true 'em circumstances we could not answer but but this is the best team we've seen there in a long time well a yes up to this point in in the games have to play out but what else what else is new exactly so i'm just saying paul that from a logical standpoint greg i mean you you just said something the games that the play out i i agree with what were were were were were paper talking here but i i do think she has something going on in i think alabama will be fine i mean i i i'm very likely picking alabama to win the national championship but there there are some people concerned i know you're not but there are some well you know there was concern last year and it and it reared its ugly head again there in alabama suffer for it but i just think you know they were talking about by the way i i wasn't i dunno i dunno that many people were concerned last year at that two of the best quarterbacks in the country on on the roster they had running backs all over the part i mean i i would i would never concern last year this year on i'm only concern in in the sense that there's a lot of transition going on a you know does this coaching staff in lit up to the hype that everyone's giving and that's one thing in some days i look a little bit perturbed because you talked to we talked we talked we we've talked about fourteen different schools here on on a regular basis and you talked to someone at every one of those schools and everything's right doesn't always work out that way will take a break in the computer just broken eight five five to four to seven to eight five you are next up your calls after listening to the paul finebaum show podcast about glad you're here a let's get to some phone calls in harry he's in the big easy halo harry hey paul thanks for taking my call thank you paul just two quick points and maybe a question to it's on my first of all in the spirit of house cleaning they do have to wait until the basketball season two fifty coach wade situation duress that'd be think he'll face a barrage of questioning when basketball com there's no i don't think he's gonna face any more questions a for the time being i sat any a new audience about six weeks ago at the end dustin and he he took the questions he he laughed at some sort of speak a an he got away with it a will way will be they'll issue coaches as long as he nc double lay doesn't come after l s u or another story drops but as is long as there is no new revelation revelation he's good unless you has made it has made a deal with the devil sounds like it okay paul well in my final point is the question and a point in her spirit once said yesterday about college football game show being a little too long if he elisha texas saying i'm game would have been a clock on a game where we have seen by gambling on national tv oh sure yeah i mean there's listen one thing about a games nowadays they gave his only scc network so you would've you would've every network had yeah see see network as an alternate network a e s p n has multiple channels cbs cbs has one channel but they would have stayed with it so yes there is all we know network who's going to is going to leave a game in overtime for the kickoff of another game they'll they'll just send that the other game somewhere else well that's good ball well appreciate it i george yesterday's show mentally and i'll look forward to today thank you very much always great to have a satisfied customer we got how many now three okay tim is up next in florida ella tim hey good afternoon paul you've got okay a who knows those right okay ripped across her own show why i mean i i it's been four years studying i might as well get some use out of it there you go you know but how about a million rob i'm taking night school now i'm taking in another language red bay understand what you're saying is when he comes in i got i got a failing first test you're in a good mood today i could absolutely you know the cosby show for several years and a you know pounding the fact that we a georgia fans neither donner coach duly itself really excited about the the the you'll be made for her you're a show the other day talking about louis broussard i could imagine louis broussard was there the day that they renamed the field to duly seal people yelling out front row profits and there was an i wouldn't you love to hear larry munson describe home yeah you know i i don't know i mean they told me you got one a day left on earth and you had the in one day one day left to listen to a football game i'm i'm picking larry munson is my announcer it's a great thing is lawrence still around you know i got i had a i had the opportunity to get to know him he's been here a couple of times i i was with lauren in convince a about a year ago over her in athens when we did or a piece on billy payne an he's just got one of the richest the memories in in in one of the great storytellers i've ever met oh yeah not just football just anytime i mean that's i mean you don't need to tell you but i mean you could you could learn to just go into a story on a dinner with bobby jones and you'll have eisenhower there you'll you'll you'll have are arnold palmer and cary grant amazing i mean he he could he could you could drop lawrence missing any conversation in the world and then he will he will quit himself oh yeah he came down the tampa ones have the interview red grange oh my goodness this is talk about that now he knows absolutely so we everyone i know absolutely no one back the butts knocking here months and that say you know this stadium is always been call sanford stadium will now have to call it differently field at sanford stadium we brought it up because i i i end up with all due respect events and i think he's one of the greatest people i've met in sports i wonder though in auburn did this with pat dye i'm trying to think who else is done this if you really how well outside of the day but you you make it official how often do people referred to the field versus the stadium well they do they do it every time at georgia tech you know they'll tell you it's a grant wielded bobby dodger stadium okay i think i think they're doing it at the shoot you know it's but yeah i mean they may do it officially but in general conversation though it i won't say maybe maybe maybe this will be different but for the most part a seems like it gets a little bit short shrift but i'm i'm happy for events so it's it's a big day long overdue by the did i understand he might be on the show today 'em i don't think he's casual a pet doing his own show not been story but i think i said they're trying to make the the the guest list look a little bit better than it does he got me all excited like what do you think georgia's chances are they will be in the championship game with alabama again i sure do and i looking i mean i i think if if you're in the game you gotta shot and i think george will be in the game in fact i georgia better chance of getting in that game in alabama alabama's got a tougher road and go georgia's angeles top but did the west is everybody's everybody's got it for like everyone's gonna georgia the the one thing that i'm concerned about this year in terms of the schedule is is that other team starting treat georgia like they have alabama oh yeah no joy a big deal out take we have seven seven teams have a week off before they play that's the normal alabama treatment you're right that exactly that takes a toll you know when when the season gets into that november rescheduled but we have some terrible word i think you've done your job having that that ain't endgame is is is the strangest bit of scheduling gymnastics it i've seen in a while that's the weekend the dsp see normally gets its head bashed in by the national media and they have very wisely put one of the better games of the year on that weekend i agree k call that a cupcake cake but it's also a very it's a tough it's a it's a tough stretch for georgia with auburn a i mean tech is still attack at in atlanta in the championship game that say that say brutal finisher georgia that november reschedule this florida missouri albert tech yeah yeah hey thank you very much for the call i really do appreciate we we must head to the break says amerson who will join us talk about the dog's is coming up next you're listening to the paul finebaum show podcast welcome back a were a strike checking in with seth seth emerson who've done quite a piece in athletic looks like daryl from columbus georgia wrote this article what if they're upset i'm kidding here professional writer i compare talk shows but but you you know the georgia mindset which i'm sure help leads you to this piece andy just littered with so many of these what else you know i have to actually give credit to a lot of my colleagues at the athletic other beat writers who have i don't remember who did the first one but somebody else did one of these and it may have been jesse temple in wisconsin said you're somewhat if so over the last decade wisconsin some other people picked up on it and as i wrote in the piece i i saw these pieces and i said you know i think for these these other programs they may seem like they're you end of the world these what ifs and whatever but i think georgia fans would look at it and say yeah you got nothing on us a so i went into that saying i'm gonna write this piece and i'm gonna be hated for but i'm gonna write it from the perspective of somebody who's lips through this decade in covered this whole decade in kind of understand anx dandy just how close georgia has been more than once it's it says you know paul it's not just second in twentysix there have been a lot of what if moments where this team those why they said no no no i'm asking you a loaded question because there are quite a few which is he a most painful what else you know i say on twentysix seems the most obvious 'em i think there are a lot of people who would still say two thousand twelve i agree and five yard short 'em because see notion there is you win that game and you're probably gonna beat notre dame so it's kind of the same thing just leave see up and down nature sure of that game 'em it's gotta be one of those two a but there are so many others there's there's little one there's off the field ones like off the field what if todd gurley doesn't get suspended in two thousand fourteen 'em you know when and i posted this and there's some fascinating was when i posted this drew butler who was a punter fondly two thousand eleven team a kind of snark lee wrote back and say what a georgia loses the vanderbilt in two thousand eleven which threes and drew wrote that was he made a game saving tackle on eight botched to prevent vanderbilt's from scoring the winning touchdown but drew is right and i didn't have it in my piece i'd forgotten it like if you wanna talk about alternative history paul if georgia loses at vanderbilt two thousand eleven very good chance mark raked is let go by the end of the season and the replacement at that point is more likely to be dan mullen then i i'm not sure kirby smart get the job at that point so just a lot of alternative histories and a lot of programs have that kind of two so georgia at least isn't alone and those kind of moments in it seems it's interesting to two of the most painful had been in in the state of georgia in in games where they had everything going for them as well but but i i still go back to the second and twenty six game that game like the twelve game at times not a theon but i mean i i can't remember georgia had the least a double digit leads it seemed insurmountable that that's what i think makes this even worse a set these arches back and forth games at three points a head seven points behind the minister user games the georgia is on the verge all three times of just putting away right and we haven't mentioned i also put this in the peso last year the fcc champion yeah now that there isn't like one lay there you look at you might look at georgia missing the field goal of rodriguez blankenship one of the best kickers and i think you have to seventeen point yeah yeah it makes it seventeen points now you could say alabama comes back and they maybe they went anyway thirty five thirty one if that goes in but it was eight it will say momentum turner it gave alabama some hope but what if the other big moments to a perverse getting hurt and jalen hurts ended up being just the right man for the moment not only you know morally but schematically against that georgia defensive with gas wasn't ready to stop a running quarterback and we we keep you keep talking about these moments and all these things it happened just one game all this is where georgia fans say oh what did we do or what what did we do the curse of the guys did something seems happening in every game because even in the second in twentysix game in the national championship that's not you only play there were people will look at officiating calls and a few legitimate isn't it in there not just kinda whining saying well this call would have made a big difference to and on and on we also forget i know you didn't but a collectible we do the the alabama had a chip shot field goal to win that game of thin yes yes and that when when a team mrs a field goal like that the team on the other side line beyond getting a second life thinks they're gonna win because it's just in the cards and britain not the happened i i think second twenty six the two years ago national championship game has to be the most painful moment just because you know as i write in the piece it wasn't forced in twentysix so it wasn't automatic that alabama does the georgia wins the national championship if they don't allow that to happen but it was two plays away but that two thousand twelve game on really comes back because i think also the the two thousand seventeen i guess who's in two thousand eighteen calendar year national championship it it had sort of a little bit more of a you know alabama and georgia were kind of maybe alabama's a slight favorite going into the game but a little bit of a toss up georgia did so much in two thousand twelve they were big underdog to to to be in the league an to hang with alabama when people didn't think they would and then come back when they thought they were left for dead people forget there was a interception those overturn you play the game georgia second life on drive in a pass down to the various getting a pass down the arthur lynch and all of a sudden they're right there and you think this you can't have this happen to you and still lose and then they do and i think that just adds to the pain that makes the two two thousand twelve game i think i think some people will say that still more painful than the two thousand seventeen national championship yeah yeah there in the in the twelve games you're georgia had an eleven point leading that game and and and you're right i mean but but when alabama took took the game over late i mean they had all the momentum going and then they had they had won the game i mean are the place rupt and it was over and then they called it back yeah and that speaks to you know two thousand fifteen when they met in athens alabama blew them out but take that out and three times this decade georgia and alabama have met on the national stage fcc championship or national championship in georgia has hung with george has been right there 'em and each game just eight eight painful loss marketing run off the field and and again i think that's the pain georgia fans look around and say how however we close three times in can't do it i think there's a segment of the fan base i think a lot of fans would just take a national championship no matter how they get it but i think there are a lot of people who this year next year whenever it is say we we still gotta go through alabama to make it poetic it and you mentioned the eleven vanderbilt game but i also wonder if if georgia had not run out of time in twelve they would have won the national championship where would that program began today under mark rick well you're looking at a mark rick guy who 'em you wouldn't have been fired after two thousand fifteen i don't think i don't think you know you bank that national championship and how many years a decade less miles at alice you only all only auburn fires in four years right yeah 'em but does it reach a certain point of stagnation they don't kirby smart has come in and he's done things that have revitalized these program this program it is advanced it a i mean in too many ways he's done it combination of an administration that felt invested in him emotionally and financially so they've committed a the way they maybe it didn't happen under mark rick markets may not have thought enough where some stuff but 'em i mean i i can't i i do think that maybe that means kirby smarts at south carolina because i think he's gonna end up there after two thousand fifteen is if georgia wasn't open so yeah there's a lot of alternative history a fruit not only like we were saying that two thousand eleven two thousand twelve end interestingly enough all their their georgia fans who will tell you that they feel like they're in such a good place right now with kirby smart and the way this program is that they're glad they didn't win it all in two thousand sure sure because they would've extended mark ricks hurricane and they would have been it would have ended up kirby smart closing up here seth just looking ahead to the season i don't wanna say anything is at stake for georgia because you've already very eloquently talked about a darker the program but what's the season about you know i i like you said i i don't think this is eight championship or bust year 'em i think a lot of it depends on jake from in his future do they feel like if he went pro that in two thousand twenty they'd still be in the same position where stetson benner diwan masters carson back incoming he's a rising high school seniors community them 'em i mean i i the talent at every other position really a they're struggling at wide receiver because of nutrition obviously but they still got some five stars they still got some guys coming in they just need to get experience there i think people feel like man we really want a national championship this year we really wanna get over the hump but if we don't they're still twenty twenty they're they're recruiting to well it's not like there's any window is closing this is not professional sports where you know you're you're you're salary cap is about the hit on you where you're you've only got so many times with this group of veterans before you know somebody's gonna wanna go somewhere else they're just recruiting well enough and things are set up well enough that they feel like it'll happen eventually but obviously people would rather banks that national championship the way alabama did relatively early under nick saving rights ketchups if we will see you soon thank you very very much anytime paul seth emerson outstanding rider great piece in athletic were going to get your reaction to that in other subjects when we come back you're listening to the paul finebaum show podcast and now i fought from geico motorcycle it took fifteen minutes could take a spirit animal quiz online please be the cheetah we see the cheetah and learn your animal isn't the cheetah but but far less appealing blob fish oh come insult to injury you could've used those fifteen blob fish minutes to switch your motorcycle insurance too geico geico fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more on motorcycle insurance whereby glad you're with us davison battered show hello dave hey what's going on paul hey there man i got in late i didn't hear all this stuff about boroughs but i called the tail end of it paul i don't know what y'all expect the kid just say you know it's the first time you can't tell me the last time ls you had returning starting quarterback they went nine and three course listen i i hear an end you you know here's the thing he it with him making the statement and throw with anybody in the country won't you won't be kid the say oh i got doda alabama this year i might get beat mclean what i don't understand i mean the kids scott what's gonna be joe brady who's gonna be one one of the youngest coordinators after this next year i totally believe he'll take over dale issue offensive coordinator position i think that's what they brody mental tall but a i'm fired up about the kid and he can't be too cocky premade let me ask you this do you think he's the top three top three quarterback and the fcc yes i do okay do you think he's top ten quarterback in the nation i most certainly do well i mean then they they are commits overlook yellow missing the wrong thing about alex you today the thing you need to be focused on is they fired the coach that that was the third base coach that cost us a trip to the college world series against florida with the way they run it okay then that's exciting news for me today i don't know i'm still mad about the college world series find out how the money was split up yeah but i will a i'm sorry i didn't i don't know that they know that should tell you what unless you baseball is is something that they take very seriously a let's check in with frank in chattanooga hella frank hey mister prime bone thanks for taking my call thank you very much you know i got i get these updates on my phone and i don't really know much about it but it was from to forty seven sports and it was about thirty forty minutes ago did nick sabin after winning two championships literally reach out of texas yeah here's the story that came out today a tom hicks is the former head of the board of trustees out there he gave an interview where he talked about that in and i'm trying i'm talking about this without getting too crazy because this is a story i have the reported a in been involved with in the past passed an it's an old story that that just happened to come back today they say they're in first of all never talked to texas but that's only part of the story his agent jimmy sexton did talk the texas andy did meet a where people were texas i don't think saving ever wonder together texas i don't think saving ever had any interest in going the taxes but jimmy sexton being an agent and agents do what they have to do did talk to them to try to get any up and i think he he wanted more money out of alabama toward the pretty well shuts the deal and i think any end alabama agreed by savings house and give him yet another raise an this is a couple of national championships ago and an end to end the story i i'm a i i did a book about five years ago gene wilder housekeeper and we reporter in the book the book that boosters there is a texas a were willing to go as high as one hundred million dollars to bring saving in now that's a headline and it certainly was a headline out of that book but saving has told me directly and that he never want to go there and the reason he never wanna go there was because he would not be answering to one person he likes one boss not a hundred bosses and he said if i went to texas i would have to deal with twenty or thirty people and that is true i've i've had plenty of conversation but mack brown now now matt brown on the other hand a does believe a the jimmy sexton helped cost him his job now that that's that's different than the story i just told you but i'm sure if you if you read the story today than tom hicks wants to see mac and let him know the the sabin was thinking about coming out there even though i really don't think saving was ever thinking about going out there well i mean just make any sense but this i remember or when you've reported went on a what's the same mal more athletic director yeah he simply went to miami and sad right i have an open checkbook and i'm getting the best coach in football well but the one thing you have to remember in two thousand and twelve the most of this occurred in two thousand thirteen i think maybe you're hicks got the the dates wrong but all motion they activity activity occurring thirteen and that's when mac mac left there at the end of the thirteen season i mean they fired him 'em they just put out a what what what's his name the head coach at south carolina was the coach awaiting well no but must shepherd but already left a year earlier and you know they they they name must champ the coach in waiting i don't think mac really ever wonder if that happened but they don't wanna lose must champ end this story today i listen it's a story and i'm not saying it's it is not worth repeating it it's fairly it's accurate on one level but never never be confused with an agent talking any coach really wanting to do something a gimme sexy just trying to get the price raised at alabama any did a bill battle with a new athletic director a coach more had passed away if you remember and a i i mean saving will say i never knew what was going on i never talk to him that's total bs okay 'em saving knew what was going on buddy because he he had he had the considerate and then he turned it down now the story in indicated one saving which is a complete and total lie they did more sailors who warning i mean that that story came out a couple of years ago after are story and somebody out there and you know some of the reporters out there propagated we did martin nick saving i mean come on a they they wanted nick saving 'em but but saving was wise i mean he he he knew what he added alabama and remember to this was after the thirteenth season when saving lost the chance for three peat he was pretty down a he was more vulnerable than i think than

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"I don't know why he's unhappy but it seems like he's unhappy going back to the I don't call the plays going back to the facial expression that you were mentioning yesterday key it just seems like there's a lot of stuff going on with Todd Gurley that adds up to there's a piece of this that we don't quite understand yet yeah it is in in these sort of things tend to work at environment that part I just said I wouldn't go in their environment in the water you know I'm a little I can mess around with some animals I'll play a little bit but I ain't going into their yeah Paul Ninety five pounds and he dove into the pool taped alligator's mouth wait the alligator was in his swimming pool in the backyard in the back yard or decided that he was going to go into the pool in Parkland Florida in retrieve the alligator well nigh footer this goes into the category of when I moved to Florida Tampa there was an alligator in the neighborhood the first neighborhood I moved in and he was crossing a street is driving in going into everywhere but I went on the ocean opposed to the lakes or salts ozias Alice I had to get away right remember yeah you post the Paul Bernardo Yeah when Mr Bernard checks out at the hands of an alligator this is going to be one of those yeah I don't know what to say about that because if you get in ooh boy by playing with the reptile T- tires out so he was in in the pool in this particular alligators a nine footer a hundred in here to see if you want to call another play or whatever the case maybe he was over there getting taping we didn't see I didn't see him getting taped or maybe he had ice on his knees and I I don't know but he didn't look happy yeah so it's a good movie I let him remember how the thought the future would be but flying cards I think traded in and take the cell phones over the flying cars taped his mouth with duct tape and I guess as he was trying to get him he was wrestling with him and he's flopping all over the place and it's in the video and doc not in the game at a crucial time when you're trying to score touch now you had just given him the ball two times he didn't get in in all of a sudden he's on a bitch not with you stand mouth who knows right who knows all right the rams they win yesterday thirty seven and a whole bunch of problems that they had leading up to this namely the me too me in that situation you know it does look happy though key then it'll be a hot one today DR everybody off balance if you think about the rams play action game is pretty pretty efficient you put the ball in the belly pull it back out pull the trigger yeah the cell phones better you got a little computer in your pocket but don't sleep on back to the future for another reason why Zach Leah Thompson I knew he was about the nine hundred seventy no so here's the question there's a pool yeah pool in your house right okay no so let let's say let's say an alligator in the deep end it's all aw but it is a happy what's that called back to the future day he decided to tire him out before he removed him from the swimming pool demand how to plan it put him in a truck and I guess he took him released him in back into the wildlife Komo Lock my door in MMA call somebody and I'm gonNA keep the door I'm GONNA look out the window there's a million dollar brick just below the water surface it's on the other end the police gotta grab it real quick backyard to the lake or whatever it is bought another house a month and a half later just goes into that they can get from point eight months crossed the line Jim you'll debbie was the number one backup he did not play yesterday put Edwards in that starting spot at left guard would you make the offensive line keep because Jared Goff did not that at all I like to see him run the ball from from a average standpoint a little bit better attempt wise I don't mind I like attempts because you can't ends of line looked better yesterday kinda shuffled some pieces They put David Edwards draft pick after Wisconsin in left guard he was a guy that was kind of providing depth it's morning had a big day on play action passes the deep crossers the deep end cuts Cooper Cup all sorts of things they get behind the second the doors down there how much if you just to stick your foot on the top step on the other end of the pool and run the other way no I'm not going out there this states like that do that was it was great to see for variety different reasons they was the fake punt where Johnny Hecker Hits Nick Scott for twenty three yards that can right that's not it no even if he didn't eat him all the way up he just ate a handoff that's enough that was keys headline the more you're listening to k SPN Los Angeles uh no no no because the tail could of knocked him unconscious anything anything could have happened and I look I don't care how much tape they have run that thing aw spa distant time everything and Hecker now I don't know because I didn't look it up or did he ever play you made a decision he's going to go with yeah they need taped him down like y'all do some crazy stuff that's all I can say not y'all I'm not with that it it just it was a moment where all of a sudden the rams felt like the rams again were they were going to try things are going to be aggressive they're gonNA push as opposed golf had a lot of success in the past in a lot of success yesterday on play action pass is that still an effective strategy I mean the ran the ball twenty nine times yesterday but the only ran all of a sudden they're moving they're scoring points they end up winning the game they had not run any fakes this season until this one and and all of a sudden the rams are just clicking again they look like themselves seventy two yards twenty nine attempts for seventy two yards does that play action still have the effect if I know even if you do put it in his belly ball's not going anywhere runs left right yeah they can't go side to side feel better now she say today actually today actually go after I got in the water that's it's adding on his yeah they're they're they're they're on target and there on time but they're not particularly pretty a lot of time Johnny Hecker gives them a weapon a spark and it just felt like never mind that get sacked but they didn't have a ton of success running the ball either I say that the office align again this offense ally was always built to be on its heels and not on his toes so I'm not surprised that the passing pass pro was pretty sufficient against a team that hasn't had a second like five weeks in September twenty first so I'm not surprised funny here he throws a prettier ball jared goff I mean the ball comes out of his hand you're being Siro no go throws a warbler does boss he got a lot of a Hollywood cheek big fan yeah scrape doodle do cockatiel because they will do so a Florida man pulls a massive alligator from his reversal skill set he can certainly play man Coverage Cup challenge guys he's got great zone awareness so so really just adding a player of his caliber enables us to just be a little bit more but decided he was going to punt instead I guess he's better punter he's the best punter in the league arguably but no he's entirely gracefully looked like a quarterback look I'm not even being vert in the rams ran a bunch of fakes the rams got halfway in NFC championship game because of a fake right remember that where they hit sam shields they get the fake that dropback Kinda slid to his right a little bit delivered it was like wait a minute he play quarterback he apparently he got recruited to play quarterback in college Johnny Ecker but there's been some changes in the top ten in terms of all time quarterback passing yards this week in one of our local waiver defender the first wave of defenders align then linebackers at third wave defender or the deep safeties they get in between those guys because of the play action pass you know what they did yesterday backs past someone else up on the all time list gentleman can you name me the top ten yards leaders all time career in the NFL you know I the poor with World Ciampi over there it's GonNa end badly I just don't I don't know man sometimes people do some crazy stuff we sit around like where's your brains do Mike I'm receiver so doing work he was out there just like yeah pin and I said man I can't wait to run into him I can't wait to run out of love that can you win a quarterback in high school because he looked comedy look so he was like yes I did everything he checked the whole defense out he oh you to do some different things certainly free to S- up where we were able to do a couple of different things that we felt good about activating in this game plan but when you do have a player like him he really his about a buck seventy and touchdown or two buck seventy nine one touchdown ties now yeah his his his quarterback rating for his career is ninety one zero six ooh hold on a second real quick ally has thrown for more yards than Aaron Rodgers yes he's played longer think about really yeah not a lot longer longer career is not that deep in no that is incorrect Jackson John Debris it is because it's still makes linebackers freeze for a minute it makes a safeties freeze woman if you think about a robber who's going to be joining us a nerdy eight thirty commercial so absolutely Vinnie and that was the case today it felt like it opened it up for everybody that the whole defense felt like it had a little bit of a different attitude for lack of a better word auto six so he's doing work that part looked right the defense looked right. Here's Sean McVeigh Talking About Jalen Ramsey showing up well it doesn't it you just sit there and wait drivers tonight think next time on fourth and one the rams should bring in Heckler to replace Endure Golf titles immerse three on the list that's right Tom Brady Tom Brady number to enlist you gotta be forty some you're gonna be up there Aaron Rodgers no fire caused really getting torched he gave up the big long pass over to Julio Jones then almost got him on another one deep and I was sitting there saying man don't get this started klay to get here because he made the game fun to watch you know what's funny though he does make he made fun to watch there's no question so backed it up yeah he wasn't out the Jacobs from the Raiders Josh Shakeup Yeah that's right work to he's on the list at ten to two odds Daniel Jones Danny dimes it felt like that fake was kind of a little spark to get him going so crazy I wish you were there with me at the game I'm news fake Keats is ready to fake but our own Philip rivers I said a local quarterback he passed Big Ben who still acted ally cylinder lists John L. and then of course you guys says Dot Com do on key it just feels better when he wins well yes forty one to fourteen always feels good in felt good to get a w. but it also felt weird to get a W. At the same time well weird it's weird because here are the PAC twelve standings organise comfortably and I see you looking at your phone already uh-huh looking for some help stop yeah we caught you boy that's been doing so we're talking quarterbacks hecker with him out there because you knew that he was going to deal with Julio by himself he was getting on my nerves dumb at the tail Jalen I seem man you gotta calm now just talking he cleared up I know Zuber Jubilee Dan Marino my favorite how about vinny testaverde he's dropped down to number fourteen so he's not only stuff happens maybe you is on top of the south at three one they're just four and three overall but the next closest team has Utah who they've already beaten and if you don't know don't get Julio started messing with him because he was you know he was being China Ramsey he was true to form you know talking about his QB starting aww actually he'll be Texas I'm sure in a minute from the boat I'm trying to find his passing set so here you know what I mean okay he's twelve of twenty in his career chip game which means that a rose bowl berth is still very very much in play for a team that's four and three and a team that might have four losses talk and have one more loss in conference that allows SC to lose to either S. C. R. to Arizona State Oregon and still win the South and go to the PAC twelve up in the north at four no six one overall in Oregon still has a teeny tiny little chance to get into the final four it's it's not likely but they got a shot at it they run the table Alma Mater to get the W. You took care of business the way you're supposed to but yet and still you've kind of I don't know selfishly Ford or go to the Rose Bowl like your nine four you're not going to the roles usually you've lost zero one or two yes I mean that's kind of so that's why it's weird you happy for I mean come on defense or just rookie or is it all those are all offensive guys oh gosh and the three different positions quarterback running back and receiver quarter very sobering reality look this is why I was saying last year at the end of the season you have to do it don't bring him back in wait now we'll do it when he loses a couple because extended the hopes prayers of clay held in returning back next year in not getting a much better coach in a guy like urban Meyer it was a weird game he's still gets in last man standing of course is driven by Keys Automotive Group Visit Keys K. e. y.. Es Card stuff happens I don't care if you're at work I don't care if you're trying to buy a house I don't care if you're in a relationship stuff happens where you think everything is fine oh they're going to give me a new deal oh she's going to say you so I've got three four five six six names on this list Travis you-go-first Vegas odds rookie of the year Cuyler Murray is I three to two that's right it's getting better asked me all of these things and then you know what this happens and that happens in this thing that was a deadlocked certainty all of a sudden isn't an SC let this linger he hasn't had has no but has many ever throw for four thousand yards in a season I don't know the Number Ten and Warren Moon we're at the Games and we're enjoying ourselves at us hey it's kind of sunk in as they start to pull away like Damn Travis right yeah you'd figure they can't lose a fifth game but they could lose a fourth game and be pretty good yeah they'd be eight and four doesn't even they'd be nine and four because they win the PAC twelve championship is he doesn't nine the Danny is four to one this that's it I'm told you about the rug rookies on Alabama maybe like okay yeah we feel good the last time we saw Alabama wasn't so good here's here's the game as fans play along with me for second don't do this if you're driving your car it's the Alabama Crimson tide in what has happened in Alabama is tool is now injure so they're getting ready to have another quarterback this young get some playing experience close your eyes for a second K next season opening Jerry world there's Alabama on the sidelines there's Nick Sabin stomping around all angry and short and and now this is a real thing no it's an opportunity for them to go to the Rose Bowl potentially in in win the PAC twelve south and maybe see Oregon again in a championship is stuff go out there and coming off a nine and five season and feeling like you know well let's see what happens or urban Meyer and he's got his arms so we roll up and play them next year in Jerry's world in Texas he's not green he's not green he's going to be ready to rock and roll and just like all this going to the Rose Bowl you keep you can't fire the coach go to the Rose Bowl right what would what would be the that's the weird part what would be the record overall it what would it be eight and four and when you think about his wins is there a signature win like a big win and the big moment I know he'd be Penn State in the Rose Bowl come from cranked up national championships heisman trophies even with a loss to Alabama next year with Urban Meyer on the sidelines you could feel it come and I guess the feel the stuff we gotta deal with in future now you will feel a whole lot better if you had a guy like an urban Meyer type that's rolling into cowboys stadium you go first go ahead for Britain carved on a list he's dropped ought to be down number four but he is on the list that's right Peyton Manning Peyton manning we mentioned him the wobbly ball he is the window starts to close as you start to tell me about this rose bowl in his birthday I was texting you during the game as time because I'm talking to friends and people in the know Philip rivers a local quarterback is mislead he plays in car snotty person alive that doesn't think they still playing Sandia still we were talking about rookies or Vegas has the odds for rookie of the year win now when and go play Michigan and Wisconsin rose more one of those types of teams but beside till I'm already looking forward to Arlington Jerry's world next year again certain way people for the certain way about the clay hill situation because this year loan their own three on the road they lose the Byu they lose the Notre Dame they they lose the Washington SC and they haven't wasn't a clay Helton thing that was a Sam Darnold so when we ran up on Alabama we got destroy we ran up on Ohio state we got destroyed in the cotton bowl so doc running back what receivers goodness rookie I've brought them a time I can't go there you go you guys split the dog Sherry itself out over time and I and I'm sure we'll start to hear some stuff at some point in time about what the truth about everything really is because you got to leave just close your eyes and envisioned the beginning of the season you want clay Helton standing there or do you want urban Meyer standing there Vantage and no one gives you hope music was playing the coliseum he wasn't really watching the game he was listening you knew the crowd touchdown you can feel the energy in the air actor Pete Carroll Remember when Pete Carroll lost to Kansas State and that first year but you could see the train coming down the tracks you knew that they were on the right track and then all of a sudden it was so they not even the same level in the win against Penn State and the Rosebowl was more that Sam darnold is a special dude Zandt Sam Darnold is a difference maker got that little windbreaker on and he's sitting there and se Mike go in there and get beat but you know there aren't there you know that they're on the right track you know they're getting better commits and now you go to the other side line and you've got one of two visions you can cut to the sideline and there's clay Helton with his sc cap pulled male and he's getting ready to he's like okay the big picture we're building towards something and regardless of what happens against Alabama's look Alabama's parking to beat us see at the beginning of next year you're do make a coaching change but the beginning of that back in the gentleman I mentioned as how he was Terri Lauren for Washington's Yes he's the rookie of the year if you're a team that's going to win one game and playing in the monsoon get out the hacksaw we're GonNa get the shared Gardner meant you a second five out there still a freshman that riding receivers right David Montgomery the run analyst so I had a backup I figure you guys didn't do too well you also talked about route I know you want but to done better I still want to go back really there are no cheating that's Sam darnold through not only that his penn state I mean Penn State is not the same right state you'd feel differently the whole state can do they they you know outside of the one time that they beat Penn State beat Ohio say other than that I'll stay owns Penn state can you say thank you will see lost a brother you want to tally up calling I'm a huge like big win because Ed how many bad losses can you think of UCLA last year Notre Dame it's Kinda like there's an beat Washington up in Washington but you know we're always going to necessarily go back four with that team but other than that we haven't really I don't think he's had to Steve Smith so run against the Rams I get the ball and go to my right and I swear to you man he's coming at me and they were big six point zero he has completed twelve of twenty attempts and for one hundred seventy nine yards and a touchdown you asked me to go look at your numbers Henderson I think this was a Washington redskin game or maybe it was affiliate and it was one of the two because it was the Philly special and I got it Eddie your career rating as a passer is zero you are over five career and you said what wonder subject you through go I mean it's it's just there's some stuff on there here's one we talked about Johnny Harrier right Johnny Ecker career rating has a passer one the cowboy interception I don't remember the cowboy one well I must have had a concussion or something you couldn't complete one of these passes oil one of one of them I'm a blaming forbid everyone so but no they'll all you didn't get the pass off that's Wayne cost you one and then you didn't get rid of the ball factor jamarcus Russell man could hit him because it was a sixty yard you sixty all year it's sec and he he kinda stopped running and he had to crank back up and so got the screen I came back underneath into the pocket so they through the screen to me and I came back under got set by as if I was the quarterback this go hey they trusted me enough to continue to keep allow me to do it because I can throw you know despite all evidence to the contrary that you'd never connected in two thousand and four when you remember the cowboys and then you threw a pick as a member of the Carolina Panthers he's colorblind six no I'm trying to think through I know hits me 'cause I got a gun so I wind up just kind of trying to throw it out of bound because he was covered but the do made a great defensive player win got it and then one ritchie this couldn't stretching giddy hold on you were also sacked one time immune oh no in Ritchie leaked out down rail and I threw it in the backside safety came over in extent right in front of Ritchie for the pig that's yeah he we're going to talk to him coming up in a little bit he's still in the weight room doing that so we'll get to him when he's available were definitely GonNa talk to Robert Woods coming up in a little bit okay so this was not on winker bet okay because the only pass you through as a jet because when you were sacked no that's wrong that's right near the sack could've come on Luna Aaron down they was like six five six in come in full speed and I'm like Oh you know what instead of running out of bounds I'm like I think we've got to get out of here how explain to you okay so look so the one that credit was wide open he didn't think all over four times three of those turned into touchdowns we hadn't seen the cowboys beat a good team have we now are the eagles a good team eagles are three and four on one so what did you just throw a pretty spiral can throw and basically -mergency quarterback at times with the jets I mean what you're talking about you it's what happens Sean mcvay talk and fast feeling good again yeah in makes everybody feel good Robert Woods through a great block on that Gerald ever touchdown right there again last night you saw Carson Wentz missing throws you saw coursing wins on the ground an awful lot under pressure from the cowboys front I it in for whatever reason look great to me especially on the offense aside bought thought that the receivers lacked any type of explosiveness I thought that they were not tough at times and you saw that we all thought that philly would be much better football team with him at the quarterback spot it hasn't worked out as much as we thought I mean Nick foles for whatever it's worth was a better McKee about him but first of all I love the little deep dive that we've done on your your weird stats like not you're receiving stats your quarterback stats you think Clinton Corey attention for his debacle in terms of saying that where a week or two ago a player at the Linebacker Zach Brownback Brown Zac Brown was they're not a superbowl caliber football team but they are a formidable opponent that has its ups and downs out the play live in person against the Minnesota Vikings and quarterback for the Philadelphia Eagles in Carson Winston Carson Wentz has not looked particularly good and go back to earlier in the week when the head coach of the Eagles Doug Peterson he guaranteed a victory on the yes Mrs Finger if he'd have kept running your buck on a bucket the one interception at I remember is is in Carolina gets called right you're in the huddle and the play comes in it's like okay I'm getting ready to do it your heart is banging oh good one okay the first of all a coach going out on a limb and saying that in backfire on him I don't think he's getting enough national Jio so yeah we're going to go into Dallas and we're GONNA win that game back four and three they did not win they got absolutely torch thirty seven to ten demarcus Lawrence and the cowboys had just to say to the Eagles head coach when you rival makes a statement that they'll win the game and you disprove that how does that feel shut all right so what do you think he have been inconsistent along the way but the cowboys it looked sharp last night and in particular Dak Prescott look shot the eagles are a formidable opponent. I don't think that they're very I guess I guess I guess you did all right so last night Sunday night football cowboys win big the Eagles look bad linebacker there play with kirk cousins in Washington now plays a deer play for the eagles up until last week got cut the next day the next day after getting he needed got well they they're another one and they won the super bowl but they have not looked right to send team either and this would go around yeah blaming you way you talk like you talk like he's okay at the quarterback yeah you'd let us down the road no through trying to strike Wayne they've been able to crack the code on how to play late into every single season and not have a carry over into the next season well it's the consistency is not a hell of a lot of turnover I don't know about a million player should say we should find you like klay million dollars just finding co pay up I think I got to get a get a good shot on or do you just gotTa remember I don't Remember Getting Sacchi Senate and I don't remember throwing two picks is the guy that got link you gummy Quin Corey out to play for Indianapolis Colts he was Alabama Guy Right am yeah okay I think you got me Brady yesterday talk with Randy Moss doesn't sound like he's getting ready to be done anytime soon so we've got to unbeaten team ski got the Niners and the Patriots you got win or they go and they lose it but they keep going they never really slide back they just keep and part of it is the division terrible but that's not the only reason they've they've l. in the player Oh sure they not even saying they act like oh we'll see Peterson isn't gonNA lose his job over a million dollar fine either but any time soon they may slip into a while court situation but they're not gonNa ever overtake the New England patriots as long as Bella Check as coaching it's just not around this is the most remarkable part about what the Patriots have done over the last twenty years stay consistent it's not just that they go to the Super Bowl and win it a punch it's that they go and rules are they gonna GonNa continue to dominate the division now buffalo is there but buffalo isn't there buffalo isn't going to eclipse Brady in in Belgium these teams you think we're going to be talking about by the time get in the late November and early December the big one we've been talking about him all season long the Oakland raiders are the Oakland raiders real or no skins have one win but really for the most part you got a bunch of teams that are kind of all mixed together and some of them have pretty good records and some of them maybe don't have some good records let's go through a handful of these and you tell me what you a winless teams the bengals and the Miami Dolphins you've got a couple of other pretty rotten teams that only have one win got the jets got one win you've got the Washington over in terms of the coaching staff people think that there's all this turnover would have staff is really not is longest belichick and Brady together I think they're going to continue to go to super he put yourself in a situation to stress Kansas city out toward into season here's the head coach of the chargers Anthony Lynn after the game yesterday that they lost in Tennessee I talk to pigs according to ESPN DOT com wrong you through how weird that is what was the last time in eleven win team didn't make the playoffs that was with Matt Cassel the Brady had the knee injury but they go season after season after season to listen to blur hidden pretty good the second that game was over as the game was being played it got brought against me getting real good chance I'll get to get a coach eighty or tell you never been in the ball game like that before where you go from feeling like you guys for which they did and won the ball game and coaches are usually a little more circumspect about what they say during radio interviews like Sean McVeigh had come down with us a bunch of times never say Sean McVeigh's not gonNA come onto the re if Sean I think they are a real team considering that division now is in a situation where Kansas City has to hold on for dear life into patch talk about a man I'm over so asked me about the man is that what he said I had to hold down South talk the division is there's I think they've won like nine straight times or something it's something crazy the only time they haven't made the playoffs in this entire run was the year they won eleven games I'm thinking about we're joining cities I say oh look we're going to go to London we're GonNa beat so let me ask you this why does Doug Peterson get off is that Brown could no sandwich and he's a player Kirk cousins I'm going to bet on that I feel good about number eight and then he goes and kirk cousins as but see he really terrible terrible day and the game against Miami I mean they've really only won one game I know that the records to five indy had them beat Viteri on a thing because some defensive lineman were coming at me can you still in the area and I threw it not try to the way made a great he made a great play on it I'll try to all healthy they've they've been missing guys in and out of the Line of certainly getting Melvin Gordon back late air later on Beria early in the season but late after training camp he can steal some wins along a stretch here as Kansas City tries to figure out how to stay afloat to mahomes comes back now you see you close that gap even more mahomes comes back I think the Denver Broncos are completely out of it they're a mess and then obviously the charges seemed like they are mess right now in the two teams within the division even though the raiders about Minnesota Minnesota's won three in a row they got you that's a quick answer their legit with let me just throw it out there kirk cousins every time you say you know what then he's not the reason that they lost by gangs but he certainly is a contributor by not being there they've only won two games one of them was against indy because Adam venit terry had cousins torched him so what you do doug himself he's not gonna cut it fine him they should find him like a million dollars it's just lost a Green Bay Green Bay's pretty good opponent to play against in your on the road you're going to lose their most likely in Lambo but I think the raiders are

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David Carr on his brother's win in London & did the Chiefs get exposed?

NFL: The Dave Dameshek Football Program

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David Carr on his brother's win in London & did the Chiefs get exposed?

"The first down at the twelve for the raiders the eleventh plan to drive they run five times in past very occasions. Harry's Jacobs back in the game Jacobs he's going to stop stop Put them in your belly all over the southeast up in Ohio Utah Hopefully soon here in southern California in the meantime we have another exciting week line so the trade was made and now on the other side you just hear Josh Jacobs getting into the end zone I can't remember if one of those picks that that the raiders got ended up being stay trade away Khalil Mack they turn or Jon Gruden I gas sort of becomes the face of what quickly becomes a punchline organization in brother before the trip was Khalil Mack can't make an impact on this game at all and I don't care if we have to run the ball fifty times it's just not going to happen we might lose it they might go out there and score ball Khalil was getting chipped during waller would hit him wide receiver would hit him running back would hit him and he was just it's frustrating I mean close a fantastic player and he was treated with the respect that more but we just can't be in that situation so that that was handled they did a great job they went out there with three tight ends and they skimmed it up to where even when they threw the he's do because the whole game plans circled around him not being a factor and they ran the ball really well and then when they did play action pass which is fantastic no pressure face the bears this year has gotten hit minimum fifteen times and so that was let's talk about that there are a lot of things to talk about I wanna get the Patriots and whether or not oh football action and the and the enthusiasm that can bring it is the older brother of the starting quarterback of the Oakland raiders are old pal it's been far too long I'm not going to Jive you know it was a devastating week five for me as a Pittsburgh steelers fan but you know what seated to my immediate left the other side of certainly have to get to the halfway point in the season undefeated and is it realistic we'll talk about that we'll talk about second well we'll talk about backup qb just as you go to bed and he's waking up but but Khalil Mack didn't come up for sale you already know how those went all right because I would be going to sleep as he's waking up so like the time thing was kind of weird but he was He was definitely happy he didn't have to get beaten to a pulp because every quarterback that is ask at NFL dot com slash ps now here's your host damage it cheerios why why would we trade him to say that I'm sure he did his best friend he doesn't WANNA lose back against him play your fielding calls from a guy who's in the UK Panna Josh Jacobs but okay early it looks good right well yes I mean that's what really their goal as they went over to London in talking with game away but on some level that kind of transcends the importance of the game we can't get embarrassed as an organization by this guy well the nice thing about it was like you're killing me hi hello football fans and welcome to the Dave damaged football program has always by Zach's B.'s. Home of the famous chicken fingers wings and Salads go get us it's David car what's the poop Fella Doing Muslitown how'd your brother like London he loved it as you talked him over there I did it was kind of Oh by the way it's GonNa make our trading him away look not so bad if he doesn't have any Saxon we have four or five which they did which was kind of a nice little contrast there and then and then teams can follow in how to stop the bears because I'll tell you these teams the Kryptonite of defense dominant teams has always been that assorted fancying here's how we could still get the postseason at two and two you have bigger fish to fry than than not letting Khalil Mack embarrass you and remind everybody that these third string QB's bad losses great victories and all that but I want to talk about As I love to do with the the human element of this so derek in the raiders two or three as often people haven't picked up on the handsome Dave's offensive philosophy yet I don't know I'm glad that it's reached Derek so I love that were so so really on some level I know they're two and two and going out there and pro football teams at this point in the season unless you're oh for probably are there's no one around him so even the check downs were going for ten fifteen yards apart we continue to see teams ignoring playback understand you and I have been singing its virtues for at least has by the nature of the way you're playing everything's GonNa be nip and Tuck you're gonNA play a lot of one score games and some fluke results can happen right I'm not saying this is a fluke to be an offensive wizard are we now seeing yet another guy fall prey to being over hyped Matt Nagy is he where where do you come down on him by the way of doing that you ended up getting a physical aggressive nature your offense vine played fantastic oh by the way they're gonNA get Gabe Jackson back you know in two weeks schemer there's that's hard for Matt I mean as great as he is calling plays I mean if you've had a guy that's mobile and can move and utilize him and not offense for so long and then leanna quickly you know for real thirteen months ago everybody was laughing Jon Gruden East as Dutt now he's three room included like there were guys in the locker room we were saying what S. Acerra exactly how you've seen it in the past with defensive oriented football teams that don't have a great explosive offense and they play to that defensive strength so when you go out there and you feel like you're that was all good I mean it could have gone better for them while reverse engineering for the rest of the League so they tried to take Khalil Mack is this in fact some template that other but come around Christmas time the Chicago bears playing great defense is going to be a good thing so don't don't be too stressed if I hear yet although I do wonder for a guy who's supposed now as an offensive guru I think Matt Nagy I think we I think we gave Mitchell trubisky too much grief because they really utilize him in his legs and his mobility in the birds one stone you if you make it to work little Mac doesn't wreck your football game you just might win the game and that was going into it like he's the best player on their team let's eliminate him offense is getting score on what do we do you panic and throw some bad balls and that's what happened so I mean but that's going to happen you're going to play some nice weather at the beginning and this isn't going to really make sense what you're doing your rate in Rian to how come you didn't get the invite to go to the UK by the way we tried to make that work we're going to go do a whole interview with Khalil Mack I was going to happen which was really cool talking to about it is Jon Gruden new the bears were coming over late and they went no huddle in the first quarter try and kind of speed that whole process of being time we had no energy so you could see that in Chicago is that well players belly ache about stuff like Thursday night football so if there ever is a team put in London that's going to be a hurdle I don't think that the league will defense is GonNa shut them down and play really well in your offense of game plan is kind of geared towards that then when you do have a team goes out and jumps up on you and scores a lot of points in your kind of pressing on the offensive side are you can if you can get the January with the dominant defense you can you can win out but you're going to along the way have some weird stumbles completely exhausted I mean Brady Quinn stuff on NFL network. As far as the radio goes I talked to him about it he said the worst he'd ever felt going into a game was when they flew over on a Friday and then he's like games yeah and the coaches that are nimble enabled adjust based out week to week kind of things and the other teams weakness. Well then that's what we're going to go just in is what the pieces they have they should be capable offense of team but I do agree with the other guy around he's a moose yeah when he gets out of the pocket he line to say please stop talking about the coaches league thing but it is it's absolutely right it is true that this nonsense about like hey doesn't make a difference what the other teams it doesn't make a difference what our philosophy is what their weaknesses and that's what we're going to see it was definitely good to see when I heard that I was okay John that's what you're supposed to do that's right stood up and it was it was an official that's lucid that's what I'm talking about I put Jon Gruden on the wrong side of the ledger I keep saying in two thousand nineteen it's a coach's lead oh into where you're just kind of dropped back pass mode and you just kind of run a normal run place you're going to be just a normal I while I do agree with that although it does like I say the bigger everyone has the same players I mean except for maybe five or six just all world any air you put them in they're gonNa be the best player everyone's the same so it's it's a chess game right you have to you have to you better chess player than your opponent and that's goes to the head coach and the play collar and who's making the decisions are where to put these guys so huge coach Fan I C I I'm with events and so when you go from from gearing your entire offensive system to that guy and then you kinda jump into chase is going to be more drop bag I'm not really a drop back pass guy well he didn't he was a little upset after the game as you can understand and they got in late they that's the other thing on I don't know why Chicago I don't know why you would fly across the UK two days before the game I mean you're going to be not it has never really I would argue at any meaning I mean the coaches that get up and impose your will embark about the emotional high doesn't work it doesn't work for me and you got the offensive Lineman in the back of the room mates we don't care who we're playing teams that are successful will be the day attack what they see is going to be is going to allow them to score the most points football watch the way they dominated so don't overreact to every game that happens the cowboys are still good they're not a bad team because they lost at New Orleans and then lost life itself is long you think it's short and you can be a prisoner of the moment and now the colts are the best team in the AFC if you watched Sunday night via and so last question three and to do you now see in in an AFC we talked about it all last week outside of the Patriots and chiefs and the chiefs akers that's playing while coming in who were well rested after Thursday night football two weeks ago but that being said let's play devil's automatically stop down because of those player concerns but right that is something that would be it's a very real thing yeah because you could see it with the in the first quarter and strategically the raiders knew that and stop the other team from scoring the most points against them absolutely right and there's like there's there's obviously a strategy to it but I think the biggest thing is there's so much parody are some things that Matt Nagy guarantee on his flight back to say Oh man we should have done this a little bit more taken advantage here and they didn't but that's fine they lose the game they'll say so now so now the raiders in front of you anyway like literally that's what happens doesn't so so I mean I've been going on and on about this and and some of the die hard listeners have dropped me rose which missed five or six in a row in this game tonight then you have a chance but if you just play zone you kind of sit back there and you let Andy Reid do his thing and he's going to dice you up there's going to be guys running wide open all over the the only team that can defeat us is this team we must do what we do best like Wadhwa that there was an era where that worked out there we run endure Eric and Kinda just you know bury the hatchet a little bit we're going to do it right many nice it's been nice we couldn't we couldn't make it all work but they were both in for it so that would have been Kaleo was like Derek who eh it's enough of this little who cares enough of this knock on Wood Gye has no we will has no meaning in twenty nine hundred here Antonio Sixty six also a guy who gets a lot of heat for his opinions in two thousand nine hundred ninety you've got a lot of hot takes fella I just you know just just take Amac what about what about those chiefs did they get exposed a little bit that you can grind them well I think that we've seen over the last couple of weeks with here's how you man coverage of tight man to man coverage and you don't you don't buy into the smoke and mirrors and the motions and everything you just lock on your guy and you run with them and if you can make plays they are you can make pat miss a couple the football America's watching us on the big stage here and in the fourth quarter the steelers would have a one score lead and they would just grind it out with thirty six and it was oh cower steelers teams I dated like that feeling of like we're playing Phil rivers high powered chargers I mean San Diego and all race but I like what Detroit did they didn't have the personnel to do it and I don't even know if Indianapolis Colts have the personnel to do it but they did a good job of kind of holding down and powis her so you against that's the right I mean and they can utilize plaques and move them out of the pocket and then he makes a ton of plays legs and I mean I'm just happy cone didn't touch the ball as much as he did because I guys dynamics so there are Tom Coughlin when you've played teams when we used to play the Patriots it was keep them off the field if they're on the field they can't score so you have to have Clinton Nelson you have to have guys that you can run the football and do that with trouble doing that so it's still the way to do it I think it's the most satisfied especially as a quarterback I mean Derek's comment this morning when I was talking to coming in here he's like dude I was literally just calling and again the asterisk as that mahomes wasn't one hundred percent oh he wasn't but I I do and now see I'm all over the place because I did you know watch the appropriate run like there wasn't even a pass option I would get up to the line with like three different run plays I'd find the best one call it and we'd get five or six yards like that's how you in football games yet if you throw the ball thirty times dropback scenario clue MAC will have five sacks he will ruin your game you have to play it a little bit different and if you look at the teams that can do that then they'll be there playing to your strengths and attacking the other teams weaknesses and all that kind of stuff if you have the right side of that colts line what team is rightly capable of stopping that sadly what with with Derek First of all I'm curious as a side note before I ask you a serious question is you can do that you have the personnel to do that I mean all all four how much not to get too micro about it but but to the point that we're I think we're both making about and that's where you start to look for the teams that can do that kind of thing against a high powered offense if you don't have that if you're gonna go in there and just the rams you think you're going to go just keep asterisk injuries yeah the bombing still able to move around a little bit before that and he's still missed some throws but then on the opposite side you have to have a team that can control the clock at one point in this like an half I'm looking at the time of possession it was cold seventeen thirty and Kansas City three minutes so I mean that's that's really when you talk about you talk to Bill Bell Jack So it's not gonNA happen you're not gonNa do it if the change the complete strategy of the game and pound the football Allah what the raiders did to the bears. I mean you can't go out there and it was very satisfying the three yards and a cloud of dust thing well I think it's the most satisfying brand of football it's Kinda disappeared and teams aren't really Kinda geared did there because this was a serious matter to me I don't know if you saw what our mutual POW handsome Hank Hodgson he's a he's a vice president at the NFL no he has he has officer fulfilled and even though they're blocking us in those areas they got we got an extra guy come in to make the play and then that opens up to the one on ones on the outside and then you throw it when you have to and you play action and then you can touchdown which is with pigskin tucked under his arm and Derek Carr diving in vain to try and catch him they did that hurt your feelings says two things we'll have have dropped and I mean I don't know I don't Wanna I know I always say to people and I always remind you football season touchdown dare it's going to be crawling at his shoelaces try either one of those is not fair and balanced I would argue that's not fifty fifty because you're not telling the whole story while I mean handsome the chiefs in the raiders thought that this was the correct way several weeks ago until they got twenty eight thrown on him in the second quarter ended up losing that game they were up ten nothing so you play awards doing that but you look at what the colts have done with the raiders did actually what the raiders did I don't think it's any superior at all I love it still patriots all through December January arm rare for an Englishman like handsome has was in fact the enemy now that I think about it I I definitely Derek either direct message or I screen shotted your drop me a line to say he and Derek did catch up on Saturday oh good eric in mentioned that Derek didn't say anything about it he said everything was cool between the two of them oversight on how mannequins and stuff are set up that he probably saw what happened okay the first set up right he had Khalil mack running for the handsome you know I hope Derek and the rest of the car family doesn't find out about this I sent a tweet saying look at this picture handsome this would be terrible if aw this is exactly and and I think he did but it's all good it's because it was fixed and that's what I mean to Hank's credit Eric did the actual telephone and let him know that the guy who he was glad handing with with the English accent yes and the powerful and he's like how many touchdowns would Antonio Brown have by now I'm like I don't know five or six I mean that's a huge difference in some of those games in fourteen or fifteen isn't out of the realm of you changed some guys you know they always say whatever whatever you go if what doesn't kill you makes you stronger that's not true for everybody like me I crumble challenge me but legitimately have you talked to Derrick about what this team be if it still had that guy on it yes we have discussed this think about that the way you play so that's the only way to do it if you're if you don't have the guys physically then you have to go schematically and and try and added an extra body to more things about the raiders and I guess more that I mean either the UK is so confused about Dirk doesn't play safety include doesn't play tied-in or they're saying that glue Mexican strip the bottle Derek's hands GonNa rip it away and run away for that is the that is the overwhelming most people believe that to be true but I I would argue that I would argue that point I've wrestled Darren many times okay who for a few months war silver and Black Eighty Four Jersey is now he wants money from various pro football teams one of whom is the raiders L. Williams has played yeah and really tyrel I mean he's done a great job and he asked but I mean can you just imagine if there was another guy over there with the ability that Antonio has I mean we've got Darik showed that he's got some real metal you know he does that and I don't know that I do because I reacted out of emotion and I sent it right to Darren and I said we need to make sure that this publicly notice you would have loved to have played with Antonio Brown can you imagine I mean for real does came up and coal right actually asked me the other day he's just sent me a message he was doing a show over here we've actually gone down that road and said well I mean we we keep up with Kansas City chiefs I mean there's a Lotta if you know but you know it's it's unfortunate because Derek like I've said before your tweet yeah writing the wrong I didn't want while because I didn't want that he knew that if hank approached him he would at least know what was happening I was a warning because I I was there is one I mean you're going to have to sell out you have to sell out and say okay we're just going to let you run we're going to have an extra guy down there so once all fans have not suffered as much but also I'll remind you of the old cliche about the bigger you are and and how the fall hurts more and all that I'm a man of peace you know that that's why I was trying to forge you did forge it and I read it to you Dan problem solve now there is still some discord because is great good fun but Derek did it he slapped him the legend of the car family would be even greater if you would have literally broken through walls imagine if I ended up in my father Kohl right and I'm like I don't know where that came from here coal like sending a message there was like hey give me a little shadow needs some love but I don't know I'm more I'm more daring and your mom's fan of a team that you feel like or a bungles fan or I don't even know what team at this point there are a lot of teams that have suffered for a long time and I get it that the steelers it was a moment when Derek was younger that I bet I told Derek we were playing madden dare and I said Hey just slap daring in the back of the head is hard you can't run I got your back buddy and Derek somebody asked who would win a fight between you and Derek Aaron is the correct answer right he'd he'd beat both at the same time he would just take in Bonk your heads together go sit on a fancy couch victim he gets paid a lot still to Jesse James from that point forward then the embarrassment in the division around against the jags Norman Blake edited with that but that's fine listen you didn't play defense but that's okay dad happens then last year the embarrassment of that back way for this at this brew Jesse James Think about the pain I've suffered okay I'm the victim you know Ben Rothlisberger has a cast and he gets the pursuit of Lombardy perennially you say by fleeing so now so I've been put through the ringer ever since that Jag no saints I mean I've been I know I know people I hear you if you are a browns are Jetzer Lien's or vikings or whatever all mass with the aforementioned eighty four and a chance to salvage something in a mediocre crummy division Nay an entire saints the heartbreaker in New Orleans where no one could win a game and then they should have one but a bad call and now let's jump out rothlisburger out for the year in the China stuff I my expectation is different than yours you know I'm not listen I'm not a jets fan a playoff spot is not enough for me I expect the Dave Damage Football Program available on apple podcast is not correct in and I'm glad that you actually made up because it may force tanks and that's wet while that's what I'm here for the world what is happening in the UK my ars house by Blake bortles think about that how that's more embarrassing on some level than it was even in the moment when you think about Blake Bortles Prince Save the Patriots and the chiefs and I'm interested in your thoughts about that about who else is even relevant in the conference at this point again all due respect and the pain the raw pain I suffered watching them lose to the Broncos and with all due respect to the bum raider air comes then Asian as far as what he would do throughout the course of a year could use four hundred fifteen more touchdowns I would think so I mean it's an interesting who's now coal coal right right right yeah extent it's been a common theme the last month the steelers win on Sunday and they get the two and three and that division they you know they still have a chance yeah when you're on fancy TV with coal right tell that story this one ends with Waldo better all right let's talk about another game our house our track home was fantastic thinks that but the walls gave a little bit and so like we were back and forth and mom came down the hallway with a spoon and she's hidden it's like we're trying to break up two pit bulls and it was he's not familiar Derek's dare likes Cole he gave them a shout out on the network when I sat down with him in training camp is that right he's right when he sat down to do an interview and he said I just want to give guessing crummy division they may theoretically solve a chance I don't have a question I just wanted to they still have it off my chest Labor which is not I'm not saying that's not the cross a line I interact with that day shout out you know Darin joys the beard bedroom like through the wall and a Kool aid you know hey Carre said we through yeah yeah that would make it I'm going to do that next time next time you add the wall break right credit he did it he hit Darren and Darren was about three hundred thirty pounds and he ran out of the room and I was holding the seals had to tackle we went into the wall and you know our our leads e eight two thousand eighteen I've suffered a lifetime's worth the pain browns fans browns fan I mean how long have you suffered and still suffering play tonight in reality I mean how long has that toll timespan entire times when you just laid out was like maybe twelve months is not even more likely yeah that'd be a little bit stronger than that where did you tell them those guys here's how y'all this is a legitimate thought from me on this I first of all thank you have to go back in time I possibly could have gained three or four thousand yards extra in my career is not I don't think that's overstating that I think that that still out there I don't know I don't know time to look at it and say why is number two prone on the field that led them to the fifteen yard personal foul but then later Lamar a yesterday that were terrible roughing the passer calls to me are I just hear a QB get visibly sick on my couch watching these games thinking about all the roughing the passer guesting on any level that he intended to jaw the guy but the fact of the matter is the helmet hits Mason Rudolph he's out cold and that was that's and you have to allow more hand checking or whatever you WANNA call it I'm fine with the back and forth and yes it will depress scoring a little bit and Prescott threw for four hundred sixty I have different expectation level for the football team than I do the baseball team and I've been suffering quite a bit so what I can't take on top of injury he went to tackle perfect form tackle around the waist going down he puts his hands out and oh by the way he maybe put a hundred of his three hundred and thirty pounds on the left side of the bears quarterback and the ease and whatever are bad calls where do you come down on that on that roughing the passer call at the worst one you've ever seen I saw three how do you hit the quarterbacks maybe maybe do that maybe you go to where it's reviewable and you're like what that wasn't that wasn't it and like even the ones that even brushed the quarterback's face amyot coach that this is this will pass interference is and you say well that was pass interference I just saw and you throw the flag out there and then like what wasn't pass interference because it's got did they have to put the camera on Ryan Shazier the entire time I I mean I was a little bit wasn't really feel that was rough and barely drew the flag until they had the I also route for the baseball team so I know don't tell me I understand that expectation is now beginning yeah but that's the same as you say I understand expectation because you're always going to have a back and forth between the receiver and the deep pushing back and forth so you could theoretically you could and maybe that's maybe that's what you do you make your reviewable I mean the review will thing is it opens a can of worms because like the pass interference stuff to now pass interference is not they're not they're not overturning these calls and it's it's a weird thing because like you say I mean this is the solution let's just jump to the end of this is it as simple as that they have to make it reviewable that would be so frustrating yeah it's it's one of the worst things ever seen because now you can't you can't touch the quarterback in the head you can't hit him hit him high what do you do and then and then the raiders even had three or three or whatever for were scenes I've seen in a game where I thought I would say that was the worst thing I've ever seen I mean he the way he was laying there and everything and they carried him off in a way that impedes me running faster than I can running out fast as I can down the field so everything like you said every contact is is definitely an opportunity line I would be okay with that I just don't I don't I don't yeah I don't know I don't know what he's supposed to do I mean that was literally a perfect tackle I don't know what what are they supposed to do because challenge every one of those would never be wrong dean Blandino say well it didn't necessarily impede his progress I mean if you put your hand out and have to forcibly push them like it's not forcible contact it was it was a hand of the helmet and what are we doing they did that the Dak Prescott yesterday I think he's running rambling so two years old watching games and feeling like my team scored a touchdown like your your enthusiasm as a fan is tempered by like nope not roughing the passer interception returned with law but of course everybody points out you watch Mason Rudolph earlier in that same game in in Heinz Field You watch your old Thomas I'm not people play football in college in the NFL I've really devoted well I'm here detriment to the detriment of my personal relationships right in the last forty years has devoted more of his life that watching other human beings doing activity than I have watching Emma and to the well-being of my own children I watched a lot of football and I gotta say it is unsatisfying that we have now it's we still have the helmet on well and the thing is the thing is Ryan Shays ear walking right next to him while I was that was did they have to tell us a stark CIA spaghetti behind the glass you know about this you grew up with this I grew I do not have visceral recall about being like our flags that's bad it's your thought is always like that was a great play but I can't be excited I can't react it's a weird it's not the most important thing going to get better it's GonNa it's GonNa Create Wonky results that are that overwhelmed the quality of the game and I gotta say nobody Pastor fears here's your legitimately here's how you make up a little bit for the scoring deficit that that will create but I think you gotta do it because it's going to get worse you're just and no one even cares but the spraying of like a thing of the thing of any play where that's on the outside the Hash and then very often and I like them letting the plays go in the don't blow it dad let it go but then it creates for wonky behavior conor or pointed this out from sports illustrated a good thought on that the problem with with letting it go is some guys are going full speed and other guys are going to boosts scoring a little bit is I don't know why holding is a ten yard penalty oh my goodness for fifteen years bellyaching on issues like you're on my couch because it seems as though as soon as your your second twenty those teams that that the next place to throw it in the middle of the field let your tight end right yesterday why is it a thin it's weird if only because it's the only penalty that is ten yards why did they have a ten yard penalty holding again people always say I talked to some offensive lineman guys like jeff shorts and Ross Tucker and shadow hair and those guys and they'll say that's not exactly right that you could call holding on every play so what if the other coach doesn't coach that you're going to have a train wreck out of our rights spaghetti is that your life has been spent where you can't fully celebrate any touchdown push-back on that but you set of them you Kinda could play that game if you wanted to and just I don't know if it's a drive ruin her at this point blown up is yellow and the bottom like hey dummy and then you get mad at you get mad at the play by play guy

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"Is top ten fantasy football quarterbacks edition of the sports gaming podcast is presented by my bookie dot agee my book easy official online sportsbook at the sports gaming podcast use that promo code s g p fifty and get a fifty percent deposit as a bonus play win get paid rosser brought you by amazon logging over the sports game back as dot com and click the amazon banner bookmark that link and using every time you shop score sweet savings and support the podcast whoa oh welcome everyone to the sport canley pack sean second agreeing with my partner and picks were i real money kramer happy fourth of july kramer merica yeah yeah we should we talk about america sure i'm a fan saw something very i know you don't support the troops ryan but i do worth the trip this will get get us nothing but negative review sean i a you know spending fourth of july as any good american would wake up watch the hotdog eating contest and go to a baseball game ryan hopefully you played my lock which i guess that can i put out a blog post breaking down these ads for any a hotdog eating contest and they live and was under seventy three and a half caveat of free plus one ten year fourth of july anyway and i'll have to i you know i took some pictures but at the dodgers game sean oh yeah a what is more american than baseball and the fourth of july but more importantly what is more american than a grown man bringing his glove to the game in snagging a fly ball away from a kid oh i saw that oh but black the black dude and a tank top yup sitting in the lower section where in the first row of the low so we could see straight down that lower area and he might have even been a ball player through you know like they they finished the toss around ending beginning ends throws it into the crowd and there's probably like four kids any area in this dude comes you know he's gotta be like six foot two just reaches over nice catch but it was clearly an adult baseball glove yeah what do we don't i get it you're there were kids the kids bring the glove right you don't as an adult is it fair game to bring a glove to a baseball game i i also went to a dodgers game on july third what's her a good pal justin decker san diego the chargers in decker he made a great point he said doctors the kind of guy that would have brought a glove did he bring oh no he he was anti glove and he made a good point he goes 'cause if you're catching a foul ball with their bare hand there's a chance you get on sports center if you're catching with the glove that's never gonna make sports center unless you're doing some sort of move where you're keeping it from a young child and then they're gonna put it on shame me so i didn't even think about that that's a very good point i just think you know sean i'm sure maybe i've never discussed this on the podcast book years ago were sitting in me in right field area area lower level andreotti the're is the rightfielder the dodgers at the time and he he sends one he catches the third of an inning sends it in the crowd what do i do lean back full extension left handed bare hand grab ooh what if i had the glove and my telling that story right now no problem but also it's just a it's just a weird thing to bring to a game to me it said this is this is the perfect time to play the the shine box drop because oklahoma gets you fucking shine locks this mother fucker went home and told his friends about this and it wasn't like he called a liner he caught like a little flip from a player but maybe thirty yards i anyway very american of him to bring his glove to a game that's but i was getting to sean will see i think it's antiamerican mit bear you know raw dog there nothing for foul balls that's right that's america right it is america and of course he officials board of america the national football league this fantasy football preview podcast presented by my bookie dot aj my bookie dot ag either doing their own super contest that's right each week all you 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these super early fantasy football getting do it already thinking about fantasy football ryan's already china get me aneurysm cbs folly of which i have an opportunity here because i i in also in honor of america i decided to kick off a couple i like doing two at a time time 'cause then you kind of have you're in the same region of the draft into drafting kind of see what's going on both draft and anyway so i got to going on right now and i wish jonah as a draft i was just showing one of the draft and it is very much patting myself on the shoulder and i'm about to go on the clock in the six round but picked up you're boy philip lindsay in the fifth round oh i love the hair with james connor along with aj green d andre hopkins and stuff on digs but i am actually on the clock in my other leagues and this this is a purely experimental approach where i went david johnson todd gurley leonard for net philip lindsay for running backs for next i'm sitting on the clock here with my fifth pick in the dream scenario occurred robert woods is sitting there waiting for me wow i look i we we touched on a little bit i think in the receivers podcast but robert woods interesting prospect this year old regular he's definitely gonna get you points every week so when you're when you're going forward and other positions i could go a little bit more best ball in look at another type of receiver here but why not grabbed the point so i was thinking about this i think lawler just spending july talking about football football in july official mount over sports gambling podcast i think we should do either way a either a full mock draft podcast episode or you know no one ball no one's gonna look at you mock draft john are you kidding were definitely doing in right well we will have a guest on animal each have our teams and then just have the the you know will announce it live will be computer pick these other kind of give us suggestions her 'cause i know this is this is not a unique idea shockingly okay the fed anki ryan fantasy prose do this all the time and they just used they used the the mock draft engine so me you and the gas will get in with their own team's weaken spread out the picks and then we can talk about just like you but i do think i do think the way they do it is the pick like do it as were picking i think that's the more and versus doing a recap yeah we talked aurora decisions and we can take people into our minds because they'll have to make the same decisions and their draft a little slow today i did kind of go a little hard last night for fourth of july you and me both men had a a buddy cornell how they a at a pool party and he's got this great view entire city las angeles while see them all these basically twenty different firework displays going off on the same time and i happened to stumble upon some mushroom chocolate that someone gay oh and i was like oh i have a little very out of character you shown well normally i save it for if i'm camping or something like that but i was like i'll have a little but i also i can't do too much because i had this have this fantasy football viz going end i think a you know i went out a little a journey ryan and i started while i was a in joined the mushroom ride i was thinking about my top ten so you're trying to figure out how son fell gets into the top two quarterbacks getting the no no way said fields getting in because they'll give him in implies that carson wentz is gonna get injured i think that i don't believe will happen as much as you're gonna try and cursing ryan but maybe he does maybe he played thirteen games blows at ac l and they want another fucking super bowl i'm fine with that i'm a team guy right i'm a team first fantasy owner of the team first fan okay not fucking around number ten quarterback ryan my wrist okay this guy this guy my best john wrong cox now again to preface this list i took some positions you could just go like ryan's a but buddies over fantasy products dot com or whoever and just you're you're generic top ten rota world another rota world even though the square central i'm making a couple of positions there's a couple of guys on my top ten that i'm sure art on a square joe q public top ten i'm i'm taking some shots okay my number there's some shocking there but there's two or three guys here that either gonna be higher or not on some top ten lists this first guy he's probably in your top ten ryan okay coming in at number ten for the houston texans the shawn watson wow why so low again they i'm taking a position i'm really i normally don't like to predict injuries because it the national football league in anything truly can happen you could have tom brady bloated hcl game one fingers cry baby fucking man really anything could happen but for me what's scary is that lung injury had that lung injury that would not allow a fly on the team plane he had and take a bus his lungs so jacked up an it's his style of play it's not that he's always running outside the pocket and getting hit its that he holds onto the ball way too long and the houston texans offensive line has really struggled at times to protect him dozer the reasons why i only have at ten oh i love his upside and he's a guy maybe take a shot at best bully because i think he's a huge upside i think he will have those three touchdown for touchdown games but i think if you're looking for a season long qb number ten feels right for the shawn watson and honestly the this format is the strangest to do i think for the quarterbacks because there's for me you could almost look at it like you have a tier of top guys and then you have a couple of stragglers and then there's everyone else yeah i mean when we were talking up i'm not taking a quarterback in the first round i'm not totally order back in probably the top three rounds right i i would say this if you're not targeting one of those top guys deeper me i think the sean watching the shawn watson is a fringe top guy but objectively you know if you're if you're not taking look rogers and mahomes was like why are you region why are you going after a guy because you know who shit a guy like jimmy garoppolo you can get i dunno he's probably in the twenties rang in her back end of rivers this is probably between fifteen and twenty ben rothlisberger is outside of my top ten there's no shame in streaming quarterbacks there's no shame at all it's my point so fruit prefer a top ten format what i did here's i just wanna make sure i dropped in a guy who i i while while he may not deserve to be top ten i think the difference between eight and twenty is not very much a lot of people were very high and kirk cousins and other guy there but james winstons the guy i'm gonna put him in the reasons why is strictly bruce arians and that verdict that want throw the ball down let's era keep calling him jamison james winston as a little bit of both chirpin but again you have to remember this isn't about onfield leadership production winning this is about putting up numbers yeah and we've touched on the weapons we touched on the question mark in the room syrians and we know what we were there is area seems to be kind of handing over the play calling the byron left which which is pretty interesting because he always seemed like a guy who light coin his own plays so he must like what he's seen on the left which to a kind of hand over that stuff to a james winston james winston and byron left which bruce arians a guy who lives by the motto a no no risk no biscuit an i don't know how to say this in the best possible fashion but bruce arians seems like a guy who maybe come talk to james winston like a guy who could get his attention dirk cutter kind of a square guy maybe a guy can't speak the same language bruce arians seems like a guy who could talk to a player like jamus wants absolutely in and back to your point of winter winter we selecting these guys i again then if you're if you're not targeting some someone you feel is elite elite i don't see why why why why risk it when when i could just wait and grab mitch trubisky philip rivers again trubisky's the guy i don't love trubisky but the guy runs for sixty yards a game he had he had a couple of he had a couple of monster fantasy again it falls is ranked twenty eight by the fantasy prose he's ranked thirtieth by broadway i just think that this is a strange moron cox nick foles quarterback is one of those positions where you just have to have an opinion or you should just wait and an end to me yeah so so again this this format is interesting but james winston will be my number ten guy show where you going number number nine sandiego sip the chargers watch philip rivers to me i and again what's fun about these lessons i'm taking position i mean i in stock you you're talking and he's best ball example out of stock shares ex wires z boy christian paying the says it's all about investing i'm investing in this chargers team i'm investing in this chargers offense in particular i i'm really really high on this hunter henry connection i'm really high on philip rivers giving some red zone touchdowns i think because of melvin gordon's injury history i think they may i i don't know if they're gonna pound the ball in the in the red zone as much i i think i think hunter henry has a nice little jumping touchdowns end i what i like about philip rivers is thirty two and twelve last year but he did nice yards per attempt at eight and a half yup i think he's still got a couple of solid productive years left in i really liked their defense i love what they're doing defensive line i could see some turnovers you know when you get those melvin ingram joey bosa n tillery on that defensive line that skinny some saks that's gonna give you some turnovers that is gonna get you some some good fucking field position making the chargers job that much easier quick sidebar are boy adjusting decker i'm although i will say this i i have left all of the two thousand four quarterback class off my list i'm little higher on it then yeah i i like rivers and i i will be happy the end up with the rivers but the for the purpose of this argument i just i feel like it'd be reckless the put him up there just because i'm reckless i like how you reckless i just think there's there's younger guys you could put on this list and and i got a couple old salty dogs in my top ten decker to the chargers game he worries sandiego fleet t shirts saw the tweet the chargers at andrew lock it around some guy yelled at and goes go rams yeah of course there's no one else wearing any sort of chargers memorabilia and were sitting in the club level seats nice seats great experience get the weather service the whole nine you shown balling out a little bit and i were talking about u s c you cla really making fun of u s c and the guy there's a guy in front of us this old do turnaround he goes you know you see is a private college and you cla the public college anywhere like yeah yeah that's why were making fun of usa apparently he is usa alumni got real bad 'cause decker immediately followed it up with you as hey and alumni news you're a boy oj simpson and just got on twitter that's gotta be pretty awesome autographs alumni jackie fucking robinson the guy got real upset and left early he left early the game five four walk off in the tenth with bellenger two home run game yeah and i'd say twenty percent of the crowd was laughed he went yard a on the fourth as well they showed the replay and it was just do that just fucking balls out real quick to the point of people leaving early so the dodgers do a fireworks thing on july fourth end every friday early july fourth it's this big celebration for america people fucking left early like you're paying extra motor air you go it's a sellout crowd it took forever to get in the building because the dodgers i just dodger stadium is not the best a set up for forgetting a lot of people in the building quickly get another reason why you got a lot of columbia i agree such easy and i will say though sean sitting front row in the lotions pretty fun it was pretty fun to be right up on that action a but people were leaving early like fuck you you my number nine give it to me well you wanna talk about positions i'm gonna take a position here and i'm gonna put cuyler murray at number nine fantasy points here oh i keep going back and forth on cuyler murray i i love his yards but i'm kind of scared of the touchdowns but you're right these rookie quarterback's sometimes sometimes they'll just go crazy running the ball here's the cabbie i it is july fifth it is very early in the process i'm probably still not going to again i think quarterbacks probably eight through twenty don't have much difference to me so that that's gonna you know when i when i approached my drafting sean it's all about that cheering i don't wanna take the first guy that's here but i'm really bought into the idea that no matter how good or bad this team will be they're gonna run a lot more place and they have an cuyler murray is going to run the ball we've seen josh allen mitch trubisky in a button blake bortles other relatively worthless quarterbacks be relevant because they can run the ball and if cuyler murray is going to flirt with michael vick's one thousand yard rushing season he will absolutely be fantasy relevant because that is a lot of points that is a hunter points on the ground right there yeah so if you spread that over sixteen sixteen game season that's a six point edge n n arizona's defense is just gonna be so bad defense more plays 'cause they're gonna run a faster offense and a quarterback that's gonna probably scramble little bit that buddy i guess the counter argument there's a lot of three and outs i think there's it's a possibility in eighty three and outs whenever really running the ball and make mitchell trubisky relevant someone who absolutely does not have an arm i think you have to consider cuyler murray so i threw in the nine spot i i hear my number eight iceman himself mattie ryan and i i'm torn on him sean yeah again this is just i feel like i just had to put him in because a just the dome games alone first eleven games of a season are in a dome hit a nice jump in yards per attempt from the previous season a up one point two yards per attempt to me the biggest reason why i would hop back on the matt ryan fantasy train i mean i'm kind of off on him overall is a player but no steve syracuse ian has to be where he is gone annual conference of core and dirt cutter are boys are kind of end dirk cutter he has coordinator not head coach it's written all over he seemed like a decently smart guy but even in hard knocks you could tell this is not a head coach i'm actually kind of bullish on the i'm getting more and more bullish on the falcons for that reason i think they're often get back to being like they're they're often even inspite in spite of circulation has been pretty good yeah so if you've got a guy in there that's not that's not gonna be out at the bars a chilling on the download their guy ever disease that was so awesome when he got fired from you see any sued you medical condition i see you a few i got a disease are male a male right now i'm playing through the pain because it's ideal for the listeners ryan oh it's funny i write a well my eight also matt ryan i i i wish turned on him but i felt it would be reckless to leave him out just because of the potential of because he is playing in a dome he is gonna have what nine don't games i think is the number a that that's hard to ignore it's hard to ignore the chant the chance where that often to be explosive with ridley and who leo jones avante freeman still there are a lot of reasons like matt ryan hard to put him outside my top ten that that being said i'm not i'm not like banging down the draft or take matt ryan but he probably if i if i'm being honest like he's probably sitting there he's probably in the range of guys so i i might grab especially enough a pc format where a lot of quarterbacks drafted because he gets he gets you high for like to me he's very on sexy pretty high floor guy i don't know if the ceilings tremendously high though so atp around six pick kate cool i'm not say that that that's probably when i think about it but why not wait till around again were talking about more traditional draft here where you're not drafting two quarterbacks in the draft like that were you know a couple asshole friends here's will take a backup quarterback to take up linear five spots but really you're talking about there's twelve quarterbacks in this is back to my point if you don't get one of those top three or four whoever you thinker that top tier why bother just stream stream matchups matt ryan's on that fringe for me because of the dome factor though i think community year it's it's not the worst thing they have a quarterback that's gonna be playing inside number seven for me danger russ us on wilson i just kinda see a little a little movement from the seahawks team offensively nice jumped in yards per attempt to one of my favorite qb statues up point from the previous season thirty five and seven careerhigh passing touchdowns end a recipe will it just seems so best nickname ever by the rest of you will he's just kind of in put the team on his back mode again i think i kind of like some of the chemistry developed some of those other receivers tight ends i they don't have a clear cut guy that's gonna eat up goal line carey's which is something i factor in these these quarterbacks it seems like you're trying to get a the tight ends involved a little bit more in the red zone so sean i'm losing some more i'm gonna blow your mind not in my top ten i mean square play but he's still you wanna know why sure rushing yards he's still he's still puts up decent rushing yards three hundred fifty last year that's the difference three fifty five which is actually a career high four i just think the the ways getting banged up he's getting older a debate they now have a you know they continue to have a stable of running backs sean who's there who's their offensive coordinator be careful schottenheimer what is you wanna do run the ball from the yeah but this is the modern shot i love russell wilson again real football i won't russell wilson on my team wins games i don't know if i'm stretching the draft and because i'm guessing he is going i'm guessing his atp is ahead of matt ryan's were you in the six round there and i just don't know if i could take in there yeah i i got i got wilson had a ride but again you know splitting hairs here but that's a fun of the podcast kramer hoosier seven who's my seven seven i'm sticking sticking in that dome i'm sticking in the nfc south i'm taking drew brees okay seven again that's not that law it's not that low again i to me it's there's like a tier one and then maybe you could flirt with cheer to being the matt ryan the drew brees where i liked the fact that they're gonna be in a high octane offense i like like the fact that they're gonna play inside and i liked the fact they've done it before so i also just like the way that i mean drew brees is going to give you a ceiling he's also going to give you a floor so that that's when i flip the coin to determine who do i like more drew brees and matt ryan that's how drew brees ended up had a matt ryan number six for me is drew brees okay drew brees in a weird way it almost felt like a down year last year for drew brees meanwhile the guy had thirty two touchdowns only five interceptions four thousand yards passing i think it interesting that normally i don't take a ton of credence with this stat especially because the way the league's going overall but i think it's fantasy relevant especially drew brees a highest a completion percentage all time for drew brees seventy four point four percent that's a guy who's just gonna keep drives alive end with the emergence of kamar a i think it's an easy way to completions for him it's an easy way to get first downs more passing yards an it's just an easy way for him to rack up some fantasy points yeah so i think reemergence of kamar which i think could have even bigger you're in a weird way a yeah i i think he's a safe he's a guy i would actually kind of love that have because i think it depending on your league i think you could get him pretty late a guy like drew brees because people have drew brees before and kind of like i just don't think he's a sexy as he was in previous years is a pick and i think people might look past him yeah at least the public kramer hoosiers six well this is where i think maybe i fall off the rails a little bit damp and you're you're one hundred percent going to disagree with me i think but it's cam newton yeah a again you're gonna see who i think i think cam i think i think i make here's my stance on this list can maybe it's gonna be healthy this year based on what based on the fact that he's a year removed from all the bullshit he was dealing with it he's asked you gotta shoulder that's back together i don't know i i don't know that he's going to produce in again here here's an i'm gonna shed some more light on this kind of loose tier two way for me and that's all the quarterback so far in the nfc south sprinkle in cuyler murray so i think winston ryan breeze and neuner on that same bucket for me i'll throw in cuyler i i just don't know if any of these guys are guys i'm willing to reach for again my quarterback strategy is gonna take one of my top three guys or wait so cam noon i just think it's reckless and not his upside is so high with the rushing yards i think there's this for the same reason that dumb dumbs like trubisky irrelevant dak prescott irrelevant lamar jackson is relevant is all about the rushing yards sprinkle in the fact that he's gonna get a whole bunch of juice from all those catches the big that mr mccaffrey you're gonna do but he he's coming a career low rushing yards to thirteen it it seems is hurt last year dude like that's the thing he was injured all year i think you got a little got i i think i say i think too much but cam newton number six i'm not i'm not sold in that shoulder yet i'm just not my number five it's crazy i know you're gonna disagree right but i am i'm i'm buying stock in the pittsburgh often so wow gimme ben rothlisberger at number five probably pretty shocking i think rothlisburger he just seems demille he's got that one last year i like ju ju to be number one rated fantasy receiver an i like a rothlisburger to have a big season throwing the ball i don't i still haven't landed on how i think they're gonna be is a team 'cause i have a lot of questions on the defensive side of the ball but it's coming off hey a thirty four touchdowns season right there in a five thousand yards i dave just kind of and that's a big jump from the previous season this team is seemingly just built around big ben he's still getting the starts he's still he's banged up and he's still plays throat and still put up good numbers i don't think they're gonna miss a in tonio brown production wise i think they're gonna be able to find people that make up his production okay in pittsburgh just seems the oh is figure out they always have receivers that kind of come out of nowhere and i think that's kind of 'em blanket on the coach's name i think that's tomlin's best skill is being able to put together these highly productive all fences regardless hot out i i'm i i definitely think i'm gonna end up with the big ben on a number of teams just because where he's actually giving dr can clarify i wouldn't i wouldn't actually draft tim fifth quarterback overall because i i think it'd be way too high drafted but in my mind he could be a top five fantasy qb pretty easily yeah and that's i mean good transition in my top five guy because while while i did debate eight put in your boy carson wentz in here he didn't make my top oh my god were pretty different on his position i i think you know i i think you'll have he'll be fine when he's playing i think there's they're concerned about injury and i think there's a concern about the fact that when he was having that quote unquote mvp campaign he was he was hitting on a pretty high touchdown rate baker mayfield's my guy baker mayfield did not make my top to see i should've i think i probably should have put him lower because i don't think this like again i'm not i'm probably not gonna reach him in the fifth round or whatever his eighty if you look up his atp while we were talking here sean i don't think i'll be looking at grab him but there's certainly an opportunity here here's here's why i think there's an opportunity for the browns to be eighty explosive team i just don't know how long eighty p is seventy so we were talking ended a fifth round yeah so i probably haven't ranked fairly accurate according atp then a but again this is win so if you're looking at my personal rankings it goes once you get to baker mayfield i think the difference between baker mayfield and someone like philip rivers who's like fourteen on my list is almost nothing so what is that telling me i'm probably not gonna end up with too much baker mayfield but i do think just based on the ceiling sean i think his his ceiling could be huge right there there's a chance that odell is the best receiver in the league and they have a in freddie kitchen is the second coming of sean mcvay and they have is extremely explosive often a would be aggressive defense they're getting the ball out and scoring opportunities baker mayfield is the guy who shockingly have like forty touchdowns that's what i'll say a but yeah it's weird i guess some splitting hairs because i i had odell my top five receivers i did not identify rated if you remember yeah but i don't have bigger mayfield in my top ten quarterbacks i guess i'm maybe i'm being too contrarians just the cleveland hype machine is just a little bit scary the public bandwagon just hopping on board up everyone this is this is a desire year it's a little scary it just strikes me as the kind of team or baker mayfield could have three touchdowns and three interceptions every you know what i mean like they're gonna be making the ron brown he is one of those guys that's worth it for basketball league because he could have some seriously huge game i'm gonna keep reiterating the same thing but don't like don't get crazy yeah don't get crazy with the quarterback there are so many quarterbacks that will be productive again kirk cousins not my favorite a lot of people were pretty high on him and he's ranked somewhere in the twenties so tom brady to hoosier number four shown my number four aaron aaron rodgers okay john what i'm i'm giving you the merits why you're pointing carson wentz ahead of aaron rodgers so of course oh gosh aaron rodgers he it's it's gonna be a few mode season i feel yeah at there's still a lot to shake out with this whole floor thing i think well the names on the floor yeah i think of a better sense once training camp happens as the where they're really gonna a kind of come the whole power struggle if floor concedes i love aaron rodgers even more if he's really been the hardest about it and trying to install this qb dummy system that's below what aaron rodgers brings the table that's a red flag and maybe i slide rogers down the twentyfive touchdown to interception ratio pretty good that's that doesn't nick foles numbers a you know when he had that crazy run when he went twenty seven to chip kelly wow wow aaron rodgers in demonte adams it just seems like a really good combo 'em i'm gonna give you some more again this him in some of these veteran qb maybe i'm ignoring of the young guys too much to my own detriment by that yeah gimme aaron rodgers yeah i see one actually yeah i do too and i think this is where the edge of my tier one starts and that is the shawn watson and that's because of that ceiling it's because of the fact that team just wants to sling the rock they have d andre hopkins they have will fuller wow he's gonna run the rock he played through above whatever broken lung or whatever puncher law in an while i was in high on him last year when we people were saying he's the number one quarterback over aaron rodgers i certainly think he deserves and again this is where my quote tier one starts if i'm going to reach on a quarterback it's gonna be one of these guys i shot pull up the atp but the shawn watson to me that ceiling is is the ceiling is he could be the number one quarterback and i think we haven't discussed the guy on my list at least who i think could be the number one quarterback yet even in a perfect scenario it starts with the shawn watson he's got it all and atp's fifty one i feel oh so you're but again they may maybe people are kind of sort of injury potential so that's that's front end of be the fifth round yeah right that feels about where i i would be looking to take additional if i filled out by i've gotten a couple of starting running backs couple stood wide receivers and i wanna make sure i got one of my top four quarterbacks i may i may snag watson here so watson's my number four guy number three sean numbers carson wentz is here right now oh my god number three is fantasy football not real football on right agreed agreed an you know listen you you could know listen i i'm trying to pull up a andrew luck's game log from two thousand eight oh because andrew luck is my number three quarterback what's not to like about andrew luck andrew luck a thirty nine touchdown fifteen interceptions at frank reich system an there in a dome her in a dome for number of games most importantly they sorted out horrible andrew luck was really bad end the team looked really rough there what one in five start so he put up this thirty nine touchdowns fifteen interceptions and that's with a rough start i mean what's that about this colts team they seem to be building the team the right way getting good offensive lineman a to build around lock he's had plenty of time i t y hilton maybe not as injured he would kind of little banged up but they seem to be spreading the ball around in a dome all fence with frank reich who really seems the bring some innovative playcalling that's really helped the colts offense i what's that about andrew luck right here i like him as well i like him a little bit more than you sean oh wow i here's you wanna hear your hot take queue it up here's a hot take music although he is in my top tier number three guy patrick mahomes what how many of his points were just him slinging the balls hard as he can and tyreek hill what is it mean for tyreek hill the miss time what is it mean to this team and what does it mean now the patrick mahomes has a target on his head yup a lot coming off an mvp season there's a lot of reasons to like patrick mahomes but i i again when is he going he's getting drafted earlier early people i mean speaking of the juice he made a case where he drafted in patrick mahomes number one overall why and i've heard i've heard people 'cause he's a maniac but i've heard people make that case that patrick mahomes is a quarterback worth drafted number one overall no well maybe that's what i've done it myself here i'm looking at what do we looking at eighty p thirty five ish so the third round i i i think i've done this so i don't end up with patrick mahomes anywhere maybe i'm mad i didn't buy the stock last year i jeff how often do we see and maybe i'm arguing against against my own baker mayfield comments but how often do we see guys blow at the fuck up and then maybe take a slight setback maybe the touchdown rate drops a little bit like aaron rodgers very very kind will get the aaron rodgers in a second but that's i mean that's essentially i think his touchdown rate will positively regressed i think you could definitely see mahomes comeback look he's in a great situation andy reid offense the quarterback friendly and he's in my tier one again for a reason i think this is one of he's one of the four guys you wanna absolutely tried to grab or wait so patrick mahomes is gonna be my third guy that would that's the heartache of this show show well wait i think i might have a hotter take but yeah number two for me patrick mahomes on he had made here last year fifty touchdowns five thousand yards highly impressed how do you you not regress well how do you put it he's gotta go back end i i'm still high and the chiefs but i i could see it just seems like everything one right for them you know last year and now they're gonna they're gonna have some issues it i still like damian williams in in fantasy no i don't know if i like patrick mahomes is much well again emory is still pretty i if he regresses a bit down and that's forty one forty touchdowns in the instead of fifty touchdowns now says he end up being number well maybe maybe he still does maybe he doesn't i'm gonna dock and because i think i like my top two guys better and my number two guy sean is not carson wentz it's aaron rodgers what aaron rodgers again his touchdown rate will absolutely regressed up he's going he has legit targets that are being suspended by aaron rodgers is aaron rodgers he had a slight down last year i will happily take aaron rodgers any nephew mode supreme aaron rodgers f you mode i mean do you think he wanted the getting barest chugging beer like that i'm not even talking about the down year last year the mike mccarthy i'm talking about this chug chug gate will call it shug gay is coming out hot an aaron rodgers gonna be my number two guy sean happily i'll take a more of a what's his atp very question he's probably like super low atp right now he'll be he'll be fine i mean i think he's by most people's a rankings probably in that fifty five okay fifth round say that this is where i'm getting to write like do i want mahomes in the third or rogers in the fifth yeah yeah i 'cause it's not you're not it's not apples apples i get it mahomes will put up a shit load of points but it's all about the value of a replacement shown in during those two rounds you them far those two rounds now you can add to the to the more scarce positions receiver and running back so aaron rodgers might number two brian before i reveal my number one fantasy football quarterback and what do we get a shutout the amazon official partner of the fourteen when podcasts all you gotta do is go sports gambling podcast dot com you'll amazon logo there you click on that amazon logo okay this is easy no you do is just do bookmark there anytime you're buying stuff on amazon used that link you're buying stuff on amazon in supporting beat sports gambling patia crv a ton of six stuff on there i mean if you're looking for any daschle i have a surprising amount of a sports merge like kind of random interesting stuff a new jersey's t shirts autographed memorabilia billion books and be like those funke pop dolls ryan burrow those are fun carson wentz mini fat head graphic seven inches perfect size a little escalate this ooh some a dog jerseys they got it all all you gotta do sports feeling packets dot com click that amazon banner it some sweet saving and support the podcast today you know what i bet you can't find shown what can't find anyone on amazon selling you carson wentz is the number one fantasy quarterback that's why you come to the sports gambling podcast where you're hot takes somebody called me a homer for this right but at number one the double number one number eleven number one in your hearts carson bucking what was that like about this new look off at the sean jackson deep threat only outside the speed open it up for dallas got her hand in fucking zach ertz are boy warren sharp said right and he said one thing nfl team should be doing more running twelve personnel eagles are gonna be doing it all day and twice it's on sunday look for a number of red zone touchdown to go the tight end zach ertz ham dallas goddard al sean jeffrey great red zone target they don't have the garrett blunt stealing vulture in those a red zone passing touchdowns yeah maybe jordan our look at some read so much but it's gonna be all cw the jesus ginger carson wentz he's gonna have thirty five plus touchdowns i predict in this guy you wanna talk about you mode all so many haters nobody people's cars and right if he can't do it he's banged up they paid him that much without winning a playoff game oh my god why would they do that the guy can't finish the season he's about the vintage should be that'd be number one fantasy football quarterback right now save the rest of my prediction for carson wentz but it's gonna be a good season paroled old cw for the sake of the brand i bet tony during that whole brand 'cause i want a job some nice clean audio but you're out of your mind dude i think carson wentz could return the mvp form take the eagles on a twelve and four campaign and he not even sniff not even sniff the top five fantasy football quarterback so you're insane k but that's what people here tune in here you're fucking insane hot take right by the hot take take it's a it's a take that needs to go on a short but sean what am i gonna do put him put him seven this is why he's level carson wentz production case heard dakota prescott here at number seven because actually his who fucking wants to hear that bullshit bullied singer of train maybe i dunno also huge fan of dakota press you probably have because you're number one quarterback ryan no i do not my number one cannot have carson wentz in your top ten that's that's a crazy retake i would argue because he's gonna miss some games with a back injury flaring up it's not a flare up injury sure it is now let's get back injury sean don stop a bad guy kneeled stop arguing it okay let's sack is fixed let's see everyone else who got hurt last year it's a concern this year except for carson wentz is that reconfirming that take yes a the depends on the injury you brought up a lot of anyway i congratulate you on me fortitude to put carson wentz is you're number one quarterback this'll be great for the reddit and all these other roles on the internet my number one quarterback sean hot take you've already called him out andrew luck oh wow okay when is andrew luck had this kind of supporting cast this kind of offense of line an end he's in a dome maybe there's some regression 'cause some of those iran games are kind of a little bonkers but i don't know man i i'm super high in luck to obviously i'm a andrew luck stan if you will is the kids say but this often in a dome home with this offensive line that filings giving him the the kind of time he needs what's not to like yeah and again i think when i'm putting my first year together i'm basically saying which which quarterbacks can throw for like which quarterback skin flirt with five thousand yards which quarterback skin surpass forty touchdowns and i think it's that list of luck rogers mahomes and watson so i absolutely think look look could do what patrick mahomes did last year that would be the hot take he could throw for five thousand and fifty touchdowns now it's a stretch but again my top to my top tier quarterbacks but doled out on his own will be nine one don't they want some hot take some kind of outside the box thinking you could look meaning a private school quarterback number one on my list that's a hot take caveman andrew luck you're you're bff not mine i like andrew luck good did throws iraq got finally got his arm fixed who some off the board sleepers crime and that we haven't hit on well again i think coming back to my list yeah and this is more of a strategy conversation but after those top four i'm probably this is why the format it's weird i'm strangely probably not going to be looking at any of the rest of the guys my top ten because i could just get guys outside the top ten around the same time or even wait longer you you throughout ben rothlisberger i like ben rothlisberger in my top ten i think he has potential philip rivers disgusting right he seems they're always put up numbers and he's always disrespected in twelve team league you could probably get him at the end of your draft because listen there's not gonna be a chargers fan and you're drafted don't worry about that he he's going outside the top twelve if i'm desperate sean if i'm desk jimmy g is an interesting one yeah no shanahan could make a productive he didn't andrea last year a you kind of called out some reasons why stafford might be a question mark this year yeah i'm staying away from him even all the way down to like you know could be worse and starting ryan fitzpatrick the first couple of weeks i again well that's interesting to i does fitzpatrick starter today they just give it to rosen right away i think they still let fitzpatrick start and then i mean one more talking nfl week one dfs yeah i i think the move with the dolphins is they'll start start fitzpatrick because you gotta you gotta save the guy who's gonna give you some hope till later right here bench the young guy it's the it's the mover fitzpatrick has been benched many times yeah okay but he's on him and then the mind it well end and i think what all three florida teams start it out to in our three you know with these new rules about the conditioning these florida teams in the heat have a headstart so if you look at the miami dolphins week week one home september eighth it's gonna be hot it against the baltimore ravens at home and again you got fits magic he's gonna be a quarterback india fast you could probably get per five thousand he's gonna be like the bottom of the barrel tom brady's he's atp is undrafted in a standard twelve that kind of insane mitch trubisky another running quarterback josh allen who we touched on john 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"The broncos are throwing the football sixty point fifty four percent of the time the denver broncos that is welcome back to the whole show powered by energy. We're live from the articles in specialist studios. I was reading through this article this morning because we agree on how to get there. We agree on where we need to go. Mr kisla the denver post And i normally. I don't always agree with a little paths that to get there but he points this out. Now keep in mind. They're throwing sixty point five percent of the time but they're down all the time so you're gonna see sick in the second half if you're down twenty i mean you are increasing that you're throwing it non stop so that's a little misleading. But i think we all can look at it and say phillip lindsay. Who's averaging five point four yards per care. Five point eight yards per attempt. So it's round up six yards per carry that's forth in the nfl and yet head. What eight carries us we. I mean lindsay when you even when the line is struggling even when it's a defense. I still get this feeling. Lindsay is going to find a way to wiggle through and get yardage. melvin gordon. He is more of a. He's more of a dancer. I mean he's going to get the ball he's gonna look for a whole he's gonna bounce back and try to. He's not running that hard and in fact you know even his best when he was with the chargers he doesn't look like that guy anymore. I don't know what it is. I don't know if he's trying too hard to break off a twenty yard run. But i do feel i. Gordon doesn't see what's right in front of him often. I've noticed that this year lindsay is getting yardage. That's what he's focused on and if he can in the good thing is he's focused on two yards. He's he can break it in pop up another five six and get out on that edge. Gordon i mean sometimes it seems like he's tackled easily. He's he's not making the correct. Read back there and yeah. I haven't seen it overall but they're there. I mean. this team is pushing. They're trying to get gordon involved. I mean they're trying really hard to make sure that he is a he and lindsay both are focal points in this offense and i listen. I think i think they should be. I think both of them if we can get that one two combo that we saw for about five seconds against the titans then it could be really dangerous but we just haven't. We haven't got there yet. You know everybody knows you know. Lindsey only had six carries and the chargers game buddy busted one for fifty five yards. I mean again. You only ran the ball sixteen times against the chargers down by a lot early but that first half denver was still right there. The chargers get that crazy late games or late half score and they go up fourteen three and then we know the rest. The broncos five found a way away came back and win that game Not the case against the falcons. I mean it was almost exact same thing and yet again. You look at this team. And they didn't commit to the rushing attack now. I know it's hard to do that. When you're being shut down play after play after play. But i still put my money on the chance that phillip lindsay is gonna break something if you give him fifteen plus carries as opposed to drew. Lock trying to figure out this overcomplicated offense. You know lock Reporters asked pat shurmur about about locks tendency to roll right as soon as he snaps it to roll right shurmur kind of answered it but he he more or less said well no we we like that because we like when he throws when he's on the run i mean that's we like whether it's a buddha naked boot or we like that are there times when he tries to throw off the back of his foot when he gets into that yeah sure so he kind of admitted it overall. But that's what i'm noticing is. Drew is instantly looking to get outside. He's not he's not fast. Like lamar jackson tyler. Murray russell wilson even aaron rodgers. Heck he's about like that. I mean he can drew lock can do some things with his legs but not like that now when you roll out you now teams are knowing what they're gonna do defenses of studying up on him. They know he has a tendency. Just escape that pocket quickly. So they're going to try to make it appealing to him to continue to do that. They'll bait him now. The act like they're going to bring the end who's on drew. Lock right side. Probably have him tilting inward so it looks like ok that right side. It's going to be open for me. But you have a linebacker spy out there. So i mean defenses are going to get to the point now where. They're not necessarily trying to show that they're stopping it but that they're going to set up bait him into it that's again. You have a young quarterback. You have a lot of weapons. None of it makes sense. You gotta run. Lindsay at eight carries for twenty three yards. Gordon had six carries for eighteen yards last week. Not gonna do it. I mean why. Why spend the money. Why did you do this. Drew lock threw a forty eight times and again. He's throwing a chunk of that late. And the broncos were down early. Nothing early in the game. So i am standing by this. You gotta stay committed to this rushing attack. And i'm not quite sure what it's gonna take fangio saying the right things he said today. Hey i it's a mixture of both. We need to commit to the run game more Schematically we have to figure out how to open things up for these guys. Overall strength to this team unfortunately is a is an average defense right now with it with all these injuries. Strength team as an average defense when it should be your off. You're you're rushing attack. That's what this should be. You know you stocked up on tight ends now album out. I get that but you upgraded the oh lying graham glass. Cows been out for two weeks. I get that you're right. Tackle situation has been scary. And you have a rookie center. So i i get all of those things. But i still want to see that commitment overall again. Five point eight yards per rushing attempt. Lindsay is fourth in the nfl on yards per rush. Now how do you get him. How do you get him to carry the ball. Fifteen times you'll lindsey. I don't believe lindsay is going to be a derrick. Henry is not going to be a guy that can carry twenty plus times and almost get stronger with every carry. I think you're gonna have to even that out. But i think fifteen twenty touches you gotta get close to that and get close to it. Early established that rushing attack utilize gordon too. Because he's a little bit different he you know. He gordon's guy that it's going to dance around a little bit. And maybe make some crazy moose. Kill rights gordon brings attributes to the denver huddle that lindsay does not gordon runs bigger in short yardage blocks better in pass protection catches the ball more reliable. He is better blocking yes. He's better receiver. I'm not quite sure. I get the runs bigger in short yardage. I i kinda see gordon bounce. I see him bounce way too much but he blocks better in catch better. I'm not saying reduce gordon's carries. I extend are you give lindsay more and you give gordon moore. You gotta find a way. And i want to be the emphasis this week But again this all goes back to the original thought here at the starting of free agency into the draft elway is buying up all the shiny toys with no real rhyme or reason as to what pat shurmur is going to do with it last year. Vic fangio high higher skiing skiing willow and the reasoning was. Well he has a. He has a style of offense. I couldn't stop well. Then they kind of change it to pat. Shurmur seems to like to throw the ball. In fact shurmur is the one who want to gordon because he wanted to pass catching running back so they wanna throw the ball on air now. Okay well you have phillip lindsay. You have a lot of tight ends. Is it really going to be an air out. Type type offense or is it going to be a ground and pound. That's the thing we don't have an identity and if you just say okay. We're tightening it up here and we're going to run now and you're taking out your shiny toys a lot jerry. Jeudy engage hamblur your night. Tim patrick not utilizing those guys. As much as you may be only have one or two wide receivers in two. I receivers you know for the most part instead of the weapons so again. It goes back to that identity. Intel pat shurmur is willing or vic fangio is willing to step up and say who are we. You know last week before this game before. The falcons game fangio said yeah. We might try some uptempo more. Well okay you can still run in an uptempo. A tempo offense Here's something now i got. We got a clip from drew. Lock but i also want to talk about this and other clip. I found this morning. Drew lock talks about the fact that right in that first quarter. We got to be better. They're throwing out there thrown out. Different looks at us. Sometimes that maybe we don't prepare for in practice now. I grew up in the shanahan days. That was the bulk of my broncos. Fandom was when mike shanahan was the coach you guys remember especially when the broncos were like finishing five hundred all the time. He'll in shanahan's later years. What were they really good. At those first that first one or two drives it was all scripted. Fifteen plays shanahan had him down and he that offense just practice them religiously so they were always go down and score i. They were always going to go down and get a feel. And that's not really a rarity to just shanahan a lot of coaches script that i ten fifteen plays. So they're good at it but now you have drew lock saying yeah the throwing stuff out at us really early that we're not really prepared for. That's another alarming thing. That's something else that's alarming. Here's drew lock talking about. You know maybe just again. Say i'll basically. This is the same press conference without the win that we heard last week after. The chargers points in two few thousand can't be third lawsuit last week. I stunk last week. This girl walks this week better. I regard there's no question that's happened with work and roaring tomorrow process very young guys. Whatever he's eager. He says the right things. He's eager he's i don't want to use the young thing as an excuse. I like that. I think that's owning a little bit. But they're gonna start needing more guys back. Jeff legwold broncos getting a sliver of good news on the injury front this week. Tackle ledger wilkinson. He's been the ira i since week. Four after the leg deal. He started the process to return. It was on the practice field yesterday. Graham glass cows miss last two games after testing positive which back on the field as well so dixon just saying had on the line to do that well. Graham glasgow should play this week. Fangio said probably too soon for a wilkinson. The interior of own line should be pretty good. I mean you look at it. If you get glasses cow in the mix then yeah. The interior of that line should be good rookie lloyd cushenberry dalton reisner and then and graham glasgow assuming he can go so they may have of the season. Those guards were the reisner in glasgow or re lane ranked fourth the fourth. Best guard duo projected going into the going into the season. So yeah you get him back and You should be able to run the ball a little bit better so i. I don't know if he's going to go yet or not. But i do think it's too soon to tell on alexa wilkinson for this week. I don't think it's going to happen probably next week but demar dotson again you you are on. Your elijah was the backup right. Tackle originally so tomorrow is the third. So then you're ultimately on your fourth so that right tackle spot has been his been rough but you know dixon i hear you saying hey. They shouldn't but if you get glass cow all right. Garrett bowles has had a much better season doll risers. Pretty damn good at that. Left guard position rookie. Cushenberry okay. tough then right guard greenglass cow. He's there if he's in there suddenly. Yeah you should be able to run the ball. You should be able to commit to that more but you know again. A lot of identity issues with the broncos continues to plague them how about derek carr derek carr has had an interesting journey in his nfl career. He's only been to the playoffs. Once was that two thousand sixteen and you know in that time that year. I mean he was lighting it up. He had a phenomenal year. But when you look at overall he's he's been nice player but not good enough. I mean gruden for two years was kind of like. I don't know if this is our guy or not. I think he feels much better about that now. But yeah the year. The two thousand sixteen year threw for four thousand yards. Twenty eight touchdowns six interceptions. That was his best year. His second year was pretty good too through thirty two touchdowns and four thousand yards but thirteen interceptions. So he's had he's had some some good seasons you know but again the yards. That can be deceiving. Look at that. Percentage look at that completion percentage. That's probably where i'd go. He's a good quarterback. he's good. He needs a better unit around him. And i feel like gruden's doing that. This raiders team is much better. And i mean if not this year the next year. This team's gonna be in the thick of it. They're going to be in. These hunts because all those draft picks that gruden's been collecting. They're starting to perform well so cars. He's pretty good he he'll he could fumble. I mean he has a tendency to lose the ball back there. So i mean that's something. The broncos will be hopefully very aggressive with this week is going when they get in the backfield. Getting those hands like karate chops man just nonstop going after after derek carr. That's what they're going to need this defenses. I mean we don't really know where this offense is gonna go. We don't know could've take three quarters for them to get going. What if they don't get going on the fourth and it's just an absolute blow. You're going to need this defense to come up with some big plays and there's a guy on that offensive side. It's going to be pretty motivated. How josh jacobs and overall talking about six hundred yards rushing six touchdowns devante booker. The guy the broncos gave up on. He's putting together a decent year for backup running back. Two hundred twenty three yards and a touchdown. They're throwing the ball to him once in a while. So he's he's not terry eight receptions for about seventy yards. you know. He's looking at this game. I was. I was the forgotten guy in denver. Josh jacobs is a good year. So and then. Obviously max max crosby defensive end. Five sacks for the raiders. Leads the team. I think he was picked to the fourth round so again. You're seeing draft picks just first rounders but overall pick ups the raiders. Whether it's this year next year. I expect them to be competitive for a long time. Twenty one minutes after the hour windsor mill tavern there in the newly remodeled historic windsor mill. A main street they are fresh takes on classic sharable american comfort food as well as incredible great range. Bison check them out windsor l. tavern twenty dollar gift certificate. We're gonna give away right now. Be caller number four on the first advantage hotline connor before we got a gift certificate for you to the windsor mill tavern nine seven three five three thirteen ten or toll. Free eight seven seven three five three three hundred ten be caller number four and you got a twenty dollar gift certificate to the windsor mill tavern so whole show powered by energy. We'll be right back Thursday night. Football is on tonight. Don't miss opening kickoff while you drive home. Keeping here on northern colorado's voice thirteen ten. Kfi k code now weekdays at four northern colorado's voice. Thirteen ten kfi k. This is brian. How colorado buffaloes beat writer for the buffs zone and. You're listening to the whole show thirteen ten. Kfi mark your calendars colefax. My friend december twelfth think. It's a saturday the unc. Men's basketball team will head twenty five miles north. They'll take colorado state that one's going to be good. That's going to be a great great in-state game. The schedule is starting to take shape so there you go december twelfth. I am very much looking forward to that game. The these are the games. I'm looking forward to the most. Because i've been bragging saying i think the last two years has been one of the top teams in the state and i'm laughed at for that. It's okay okay. Colfax you'll see you'll all see Let's see new wasn't seventeen. The year car broke his leg so he didn't play the plus. Yeah it was sixteen. I believe is when they went the playoffs. He broke his leg. he was having a great year. He broke his leg. And then the dude from twilight brock osweiler in the houston. Texans beat the raiders in that first round. Yeah a new noobs. Dropping this about boise state. Yeah the conferences. Week is oklahoma. Ask oklahoma how that worked out for them. That statue of liberty play. Yeah are one of the greatest. The greatest moment in boise state broncos history. That statue of liberty play. yeah Let's see i text line. Three one nine nine six three one nine nine six brady. You only get so many possessions if your defense gives up some points. You can't keep running if it's not working right off the bat. The broncos were in these games though still was it fourteen. Three at the half falcons. That's still game where you can still run the ball. Same i think right was that i'm thinking that right same with the chargers you were still in that game. It was the third quarter that kind of took off. The broncos abandoned the run game in both of those games early card and actually play in the plan games the season. Yeah no no. I know that he did get into to the playoffs so he he was hurting that last game so i mean it all still. It's all still relevant flying. Dutchman what does brady think is the weakest part of the broncos team which broncos team. The denver broncos are boise state because answering both. If you wanna go boise say they can't run very well but the quarterback position jack sears. If he goes he's still he's still legit. You gotta watch out for him. They can't run very well. And i would say i would take defensive. Line over boise. State's offensive line was monster right now. There third in the conference and they've only played two games in sacks so That's a weak point in legally been boise state. Quarterbacks avoid sacked like six times but pressure on the quarterback can be just as lethal right. So yeah i. I looked at it. I mean you look at the six times. Hancock myers been sacked three times. Finnigan was sacked twice. Jake sears Jack sears sect once last week so i mean the offensive line. Hasn't given up a lot of sacks but you know they're starting to play that first game of the season was not that difficult for them You play you played a brief top team in the country and byu. so i would. I would say that offensive line. Run blocking pretty weak for boise state. I mean andrew van buren has one hundred thirty six yards three games. So i mean that's the you're not. You're not exactly running the ball all over the yard at that point so i would say that obviously the strength it's going to be hanged. Bach meyer. if he's there I mean he's only forty fifty yards per carry or something like that flying dutchman as you in the points tonight cowley. I can't give that out until we get to the keys to the game. Fourteen and a half tempting isn't it takes issue in the points. Hancock myers not they're flying dutchman. Fly away my friend but you gotta lay that bet before it's why college football is so fantastic. When it comes to that i will tell you this. I think he's playing like if i'm betting man and that's factoring into my bet balk. Meyer plays if he plays how much you talk and flying dutchman be careful with you know friendly bat ten bucks twenty bucks maybe throw it. Give it a shot. Give it a shot. Make that rams game more enjoyable but much more than that. Hank bob myers playing. I mean there's no fans in the stands but the blue still has the impact kovacs doesn't matter if there's fans in the stands are not i all the text line three one nine nine six three one nine nine six. Oh i got something you can take to the bank though coming up next colefax again whole against hall of famers. You already know who picking in this game. If you follow the rules of the whole show you already know. I will give What do we got here. Oh i got this empty bottle of pledge in here on the desk that i will give away to the first texter that can predict who. I'm picking tonight. Because of the whole show rule there is a curse that is over the whole show that i cannot escape and you already know who i'm picking so go for it. Three one nine nine six three one nine nine six thirty two minutes after the take a short break here with the latest on the local sports flash here mornings with kale weekdays. Six to nine and northern colorado's voice thirteen ten kfi k. k. a. hosted by deep and duggan. Hey it's andrew bogusch from cbs sports radio. You're listening to the whole show on thirteen ten. Kfi aa or bad well. it's thursday night a new. we has gone. I turn all my radio for some prophecy fun. I hear an american picker on. Kfta pickets game. Each week is his specialty. I gotta get ready. Make the tea and has the bomb thursday night special special than that. I read it. Are you straw thursday night. Texter say this is rock and coal fix. Sorry that's that and say that we've had a few texas. This sounds oddly. Like the the other day of the week. Football song like strangely. I've had a few. I don't hear. I don't hear the resemblance now. I don't even know what you're referring to. Is there another song for another night of the week. Football game now. Don't even know if there is. I certainly haven't heard of and this is not for the guinness for the thursday night special. Yeah this is the biggest segment bigger than the game itself. This is absolutely bigger than the game itself. I'm over five hundred now. No no surprise. A lot of doubters were out there. Say what's going on mr thursday night. Well what's going on his covid nineteen and the world. That's what's going on. But somehow guess what i busted right through that i busted right through it. I'm a game over five hundred called last week. No big deal. I even took the cover to not just the wind but the cover. I mean doesn't get much better than that. So i'm over. Five hundred november's the greatest month in the history of the thursday night special. Everybody knows that. I always go undefeated on thanksgiving. I roll right up to that date. So i'm going to be like five six games over five hundred when it's all said and done that the end of november so feeling pretty good about tonight. The colts the titans Last week for the colts against the ravens. Philip rivers showed his age a little bit that interception that he threw is the best thing in the world watching him. Try to tackle somebody. I can watch that over and over again. lavar jackson. He did lamar jackson e things. Even though the colts news the plays like you could hear the beauty of not a lot of fans you could hear players calling out. Lamar's running right. He's running right. Any continued re sixty are rushing and a touchdown. I mean he is that offense. He is good teams though. Might be able to figure them out the colts. They're five and three. I'm kind of shocked by that. Nothing extremely special about this group. Philip rivers spreads the ball all over the place. So i mean decent guys that are just getting involved you know so i mean it's a spread out off. It's a pretty good defense overall tonight. Though you look over at the titan side of things and tennessee. They're feeling pretty good about themselves or six into had a couple of weird losses but certainly certainly a contender a big time contender and it starts with the king himself. Derrick henry he's at eight hundred forty three yards. Does he get enough tonight to go over that thousand yard mark one sixty does he papa. One sixty tonight. I was thinking this guy's poised to do two thousand this year. One of the only running backs to do it. There's only a few. that's done it. But he slowed down a little bit. Now he's only averaging about one hundred yards a game. He's had a few games where he's had seventy eight yards. He needs to have a big one. Tonight creamery go colfax. There's no spread on this game. So it's just a pick em right here mo guys you already know in it. Listen curse or no curse. I like the titans old on d of senri taking the past that open field taken off. The town of sideline with a blocker in front davis. It's going all the way down three weeks into the outside stuff. I the i m okay. Good for henry. Touchdown along presented a secondary and talk about that direction henriques touchdown tennessee road runner. Big that's all folks where did do last. What was the what was the porky what was looney tunes tall. That's the that's the fun part about thursday night specials trying to connect the dots it all comes full circle and there's always a reason for everything there is no question about it. There's not as long as it's random clips titans tonight. I mean colfax first off. I have to pick the titans. That's the rule i have. Everybody knows that that was the test whole against most of you failed. That is the rule. I have to pick the titans. Because i picked the broncos. It'd be titans. I've picked against the titans. Four hundred and seventy five times including last year and they kept going to the. They went all the way. Dave c. championship. So after i said all right. I'm picking them to lose the broncos. I get that wrong. I'm never picking against the titans again. That doesn't mean. I have to actively seek them out and pick them like. Oh this is my game. No but if it is a game that i'm picking such as thursday night i have to pay to my contract to pick a an nfl game on thursday night or we get to the playoffs and we do pick them. I have to pick the titans. That's why i'm really hopeful. Titans don't go super bowl or don't go to the playoffs because don't have to pick him to go to the super bowl basically. Unfortunately i think they're going to get there and i won't look like a genius if they win the super bowl because it was the curse you had to. Yeah or you might they. They haven't really done you wrong since this curse has been no. Maybe it's like a superpower. They've cursed me now and every time i pick them they win. And that's the case. So we'll see. This is my. This is my second time. Second second time because i pick them to win and cover last time and i think grabbed you. Yeah you so. Maybe the titans are destined to be together after after everything. That's gone wrong last year. I didn't believe in them. Maybe this curse now is brought us closer together. I tell you what though you know. I like a good running game and is better than watching. Derrick henry do tonight all right prop bets like i wanna see him crack thousand yard mark so he can quickly get to work on that. That next thousand. I i want to see him. Get two thousand. But there's no question he's going to have to pick that up you know. We're we're eight games in you. Gotta you gotta go so tonight. You know he needs to. he needs to absolutely unleash. I'm going to go one twenty. I'm not gonna get crazy. I'm going to do proper bet since there's no spread. I'm going to do one twenty tonight. For derrick henry and he he jumps over he gets really close to that thousand yard mark first advantage. Text line three one nine nine six three three one nine nine six Brady is five hundred. How the bar set for mr thursday night now. Sounds like the denver broncos boom phone drop. I'm over five hundred dixon. I'm over it now. I mean how else do i'm one game over five hundred so i'm six six hundred or five forty whatever that is for the year. I'm over five hundred. I'm looking at it colefax. you have it up. Do let's see now. It's been a weird year january. I was five and then covert hit. And i went one and three any coincidence. I don't think so marsha own one. July start recovering. What was i picking in july. I didn't pick a lot in july. Think i picked two games. We started late july. And then i went to an oh september two into october two and two. So yeah i mean. It's been a bumpy a bit of a bumpy ride. But i'm picking games and twenty twenty. You're not you don't really know these teams until halfway now. It's serious time. So i took the packers last week to cover the spread got that so then i jumped over that mark. I'm doing the math. Five six seven eight nine ten eleven twelve thirteen thirteen wins colfax three four five six seven eight eight losses on so i'm actually over five hundred and football season. I'm a game over five hundred. But i'm five games over five hundred overall since january. So yeah misters i. I know what i'm doing. All right. i know what i'm doing. Forty six minutes after the hour when we come back. I'm going to give you my pick for. Tonight's boise state. Should you take the points. Well if the rams can accomplish my three goals tonight my three keys to victory then sure. Yeah if you feel like they can accomplish those. Take the points. We'll be right back party. Northern colorado's voice thirteen ten. Kfi the block party wednesdays from four to ten pm. Dan patrick the hull show and colin coward are on northern colorado's voice. Thirteen ten kfi k. It'll june all pro linebacker super bowl champion. You listen to thirteen ten. Kfi koa you to win in. The national guard admitted core. We are killing. The dogs wins for answering the time about this crime. It's especially the united states tonight. You get a whole team. Specimens crowd him the keys to the game here. We go keys to the game. Colorado state at boise state there at the blue lookout for flying geese. They think it's water. Apparently that was the fear when the field was going when they were going to get the bluefield people were like what happens when the geese fly over the the poor precious things. They're going to think that it's water. They'll dive down there and break their necks so far. I don't know that that's happened colfax so you never know you never know. We'll see But this one tonight all right i. I've never done this and keys to buy game. I've never done this one. But i'm telling you ryan stonehouse the punter for colorado state gets things done colefax. You know how much he flipped the field several times last week against wyoming wyoming. Every time it felt like art they wyoming. It's a big stop seizure. Who's gonna punit ryan stonehouse just says see you later. Football punts away downfield getting an inside the ten inside the five wyoming had way too much work to in fact that pick six that that wyoming through early in that game was partly. Because you're backed up and you're trying to make something you're trying to move down the field so you can make that an easier punt so they were forcing some things there so ryan stonehouse tonight. I need you to be special. Like you are a special punter flip the field because i think it could actually be a bit of a defensive battle tonight you know. I think i think even though they like patrick. O'brien there steve. adagio patrick. O'brien made up their friends again. They're going to try to run the ball more tonight. They're going to flip that field so stonehouse has got to be on his game. How about the second key to the game. Boise state will be game planning against dante right. Which means trae mcbride. I know it's nothing special. But trae mcbride needs to have a record type night tonight. As far as receptions. I believe they are going to go to mcbride because boise state's going to do their best to take dante right out of the game. Mcbride just has to be special number three and this is the difficult task here. I don't like boise state's offensive line. Cs through two games. They've shown me that they can get after the quarterback their third in the mountain west conference with only two games under their belt ten sacks. They're gonna come after it. Whoever it is hang bock meyer or not. I issue has to make it a point to get to the quarterback. Here's the deal. Four and a half point spread hague. Bach myers playing all right. I'm not it's not breaking news. I don't know that for sure. But that's my prediction. He's playing so. I like boise state winning this game. I'm going to go twenty four to thirteen so you can take that spread. Take that spread fourteen and a half points and you can feel comfortable about right colefax at thanks so but i do think boise state wins this game tonight. Good night northern colorado.

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New GM Mike Mayock leading the charge

Vegas Nation - Raiders Football

00:00 sec | 2 years ago

New GM Mike Mayock leading the charge

"And today's a really exciting day for me personally I think our players will be charged by this. I think the ex players future players are going to really be excited about this acquisition as well but boards I've seen path to the draft I've watched him on it he's a meticulous very analytical person and so when it comes to the front office did around the NFL I spoke to John Gale Jeremiah this week a couple of days after the raiders officially hired Mike Mayock just vote we'll just continue on with happy New Year for the readers they have a lot to smile about bringing on a new GM Mike mayock this is a big signing for them a former NFL network analyst who come into the team with actually zero front office experience but he's been quite the guru when it comes to breaking down draft your fans can hold onto as that the team will get three first round picks in the twenty nine thousand nine NFL draft and to lead them in deciphering this draft board will be our newly appointed general manager for the raiders. Mike mayock Michael Galkina is our insider on the scene in Oakland Michael First of all I'm your host Heidi Fang joined as always with our review journal Raiders beat writer Michael Gilpin the season is over the raiders fell to Kansas City ends a city a devastating loss to in the season on thirty five to three many questions remain for this team as of right now but the only certainty that John Lynch went from NFL player and broadcaster to General Manager Mike Mayock who wasn't nfl player briefly isn't just making this year for the raiders this is a big addition in finally submitting somebody in that role but there's also news this week Michael That and more front office and it's not a unique track in terms of look at Matt Millen when from NFL Player and broadcaster to general manager going to sign anybody there do you think soon I think they would have to but let's just first of all break down the signing of Mike mayock would it means that the team and who he today it's also today happy holidays all holidays are definitively over like that's not even a gray area so for Raider always raider and and there's nobody I'd rather go to go to war with Jon Gruden the mark Dave's happy New Year Raider fans welcome to the Vegas Nation podcasts news they've let their director of player Personnel Personnel Joey clink sales go so I guess as a second we have the same problem I do that most of the time the into as much as I see somebody if it had been the first time that I've seen them in the new year will greet them with happy New Year so be New Year how you doing happy New Year I don't know when it becomes time like I say happy New Year but tendencies like tell people happy new year way too long he's like to work with him and his impressions of him and I'm that's certainly one thing that he highlighted was just how prepared he is to make the jump from regularly go rarely over two hours long and you just the inches one of those valuable analysts for reporters and respect I should be like mid January maybe even into late January I'm so happy New Year but yes happy New Year to you I'm glad that you and I is and what he brings to the raiders yeah we'll Mike Mayock is somebody who's extremely well-versed as it relates to player evaluation he after that in Jeremiah spoke of all of this but the three hundred plus prospects that he would evaluate every year attending pro days and office Mike Mayock has done his homework he's been entrenched when it comes to personnel will he have something of a learning curve of course it's only natural given that he hasn't the jump from broadcast or general manager of the way that those two did his jump is I would say more of a up when you consider on Caster to front office you mentioned he has yet to have an NFL for his job for this past Monday ever handle the day to day operations that general manager must you know looking at the waiver wire and filling out a practice squad and working more with agents and just it's kind of a general manager on TV when it comes to breaking down thirty two teams and what their needs are and perspective fits the old conference halls reporters I go organizations and just speaking to speaking like a scout when when in each of those buildings this isn't your typical switch from the broadcast booth to the front the All Star game the senior bowl and going into the combine every year and just speaking of different evaluators around the League as broadcaster and going all thirty two mayo has a list of guys that he'd want brain in I will see how soon in addition is made typically you don't see a ton of purse player to replace Joey cling skills will help mayock certainly to just navigate his first season as as the raiders general manager and I personnel department moves until after the draft but given that the raiders were ready to move on from Joe klink scales on if I remember what I read correctly you had mark Davis saying he wasn't giving up everybody that they interviewed in case they wanted to bring them on a bit leader and keep those names three hundred plus names over the course of each year and breaking them down he's worked as a analyst to to give his own mock draft if you offensive ends aside from Nick Bosa who I imagine will be gone at the fourth pick there's a lot of defensive tackles available there's offensive linemen and for years so if if you look at what is on the board there's a lot of guys I don't know who they might go with first but there's a lot of guys available as Wednesday that would I would say would be an indicator that there's a chance Mike May or may already have his guy in mind but what to see if the move is made and did the past several years he's worked to watch a lot of pro film so maybe that will help but avenue strong number two guy once he identifies one expect the raiders to do something that would address their need to get after the quarterback far better than they did in two thousand eighteen the raiders had eh Mike mayock understands that this largely is a passing league and the raiders would need to get better himself so maybe it's one of those people who you know we aren't sure who that person will be yet but when the raiders have to look at this draft board New Year of early January I would say you would look for Mike May off Jon Gruden who obviously is highly influential in the raiders do for whereas all the rules have to go through the process. I saw that somebody had asked you did the raiders used the Rooney rule in this interview process and of course they said that they had but then one multi sack game all season it's the first time that's ever been done in NFL history certainly over sixteen game campaign and so they gotta do Vic even if you have your draft board things can come up that can adjust where player stands on it be medical or other probably a little bit later down in the first round you have some wide receivers so where would you think the raiders would I start to look would it be the and the good thing for the raiders they'll be able to look at these prospects themselves Gruden will get to take his whole coaching staff along to the Senior Bowl Michael You reported on this this week how huge is that the raiders have this opportunity and just to get this early glimpse different aspects that come with their can't come with being a general manager and so Elliott may may out naturally will do more with comes to pro player personnel but he said you and hoping that it would come to fruition when the cardinals fires are head coach and the jets fired their head coach it became assured that the raiders and he was relishing the chance to do so again either this calling the senior bowl executive director you know asking would be invited to coach the senior bowl in Mobile Alabama a game in January six but really the weekly up is arguably more important because of the chance to have meetings of different players and run your own drills at their own coaches with these players and just get your hands on him so it's not the you know the protecting the quarterback and they also need to get better at gain after the quarterback and I think if you were to choose one of those two in the first round in the top five you win experience at the NFL Scouting Combine Indianapolis each year early March late February where you in your staff are in a hotel room and set that some of the players Oh it's incredibly valuable it's an opportunity that Jon Gruden has had three times before he's coached team at the senior bowl addresses will it be in the interior will it be somebody out on offense a preface early to get into the raiders might be taking the number four overall allot free agency draft I'm to address this and so I would if you were gonNA lean one way or another here in the happy the first few waves of agency of past while but probably a better sense as to what roster holes are most glaring that being wise and then there is just the nature of how NFL offseason works which is removes you make in Free Agency can really my may hawk is going to be just a great asset to have they have three picks again in the two thousand nine hundred ninety nfl draft and when you say like you have strong influence in terms of the direction that you go come the draft and for agency doesn't begin until March thirteenth so I would say around the time maybe March twentieth elites and at times more importantly off the field and so just as important as saying oh I really liked this guy after we get to senior bowl is important Dan one evening there's just a bunch of different player interviews that you invite you guys into your hotel room one by one for about fifteen with the chiefs they stopped him on fourth down so that was a huge Stop made by Colton Miller yet Derek Carr even though he lost his interception Louis St personnel standpoint to do something to get after the quarterback and probably edge rusher or even interior rusher by thing that they can edge rusher they'll be very happy with that it's piece you are able to ask them whatever you want to ask them you're able to show certain plays on their game film from their college tape and and go the loss in Kansas City you bring up Carlson and he had the one lone score the entire game there it was a very long field goal so he Colton Miller who prevented what could have been a pick six he chased downfield making a huge stop and then they had the Stop there on downs somebody that I think is definitely part of the new foundation of these raiders as they come under the GRUDEN era you look at the bright spots of the game eighteen hundred fifty career completions and his fifth year under center that surpasses Peyton Manning for the most all time through the first five years he finished the season Britt season of any ticker in raiders franchise history so I just a small taste of what the senior Bowl Cambrian in terms of impact players and as we revisit plus four thousand yards that's another milestone I mean you get the feeling that this team has parts in place it can build around you obviously you bring up the offensive line eating think there in Kansas City he was stopped at three hundred and thirty two completions before having this interception thrown but he did notch seven Sabino expressing the interest of hoping to do hoping to account outweigh might may off Jon Gruden you know before math officially was announced being hired that you were talking about it the value say yeah we really don't like that guy let's get them off of our board and so just that it cuts both ways but the access and the ability to that with these guys as mental makeup is extremely valuable in raiders are eager to coach at the senior bowl you look at the two thousand eighteen draft class Johnny Townsend they can definitely build around when you think about the GRUDEN era and who will stay under this regime there's definitely going to be moving parts but who do you I think will help to build this foundation as you take away from the season and look at some of the players well I think there are some pieces in place seventeen when he stores. ACL ended up missing the entirety of his second NFL season. I'm just totally threw him off a critical in their development they're going to have that time and so I think he looked at some of the kind of the glimpses the hopeful Russell Eight men third round Pick Brennan Parker all future raiders who were at featured wears draft picks who are at the senior bowl and then a future raider who they didn't draft flashes of Arden key getting pressure on the quarterback not quite able to close the gap you know quarterback seemingly each week able to slip out of his grasp your rookie experience to build off of in terms of notes snowing which part of your game you need to really focus on fortunately the raiders in a very crude over but really in the fifteen minutes very scripted clair's trained on term what to say what not to say and so the chance to actually sit down and play on the fee the raiders would have been it would be understandable some the raiders organization were holding over F you know final half of December and I in terms of making what many in the NFL believe is the biggest developmental jump in a player's career from her rookie year to your second year you're not training for looks like you can expect Darryl Worley to be tendered as a restricted free agent do not look for Rashawn Melvin to be back that partnership just was not fit for a number of crucial offseason where guys Argentina get stronger Colt Miller music is stronger can go down the list of guys just need to have a nice next few months to keep car upright there's obviously the edge rusher issue and I think the the they do have pieces they have pj hall they have people that a step and you know he'll he'll be diving just missing a sack and sack numbers weren't what he would want them to be as a rookie but the fact that he came so close so part because you saw Apu Eddie Vander does the teams two thousand seventeen third round pick and a final quarter of the final game on the final day of two thousand up all the different moving pieces and parts and another moving piece of this raiders puzzle is where are they going to play in twenty nineteen we did touch on this a bit in London there's been some talk about them playing in San Francisco how closer any of these rumors to coming to fruition and what's been the buzz in our last episode there's been some speculation though Michael you touched on on Sunday in Vegas nation and the recap after the game the possibility that could frame parker in the third round if nothing just kind of go down the list of Maurice I in the fifth there are guys all guys who ended the teast and health last month but there's no guarantee that it was but let's just say the raiders are going to go somewhere else initially and maybe this remains true still raiders uh-huh I think you probably start at the draft class and what the raiders were able to get their key thing is you look at Colt Miller in the first round. Pj Hall in the Second Arden Key sends mainly technique that they are asking do he wasn't comfortable doing on trying to do it so that's kind of a a overview of an answer yes Daniel Carlson as a kicker is among those pieces of the raiders feel confident moving forward with him in the future that's great for the team as they look to rebuild and and is a great indicator that he'll get there with time with development with increased strength and so this offseason is huge and we'll have a better even when they are not expressing their thoughts so to be able to handicapped it is not something that I comfortable dealing as I do is about where they may play in twenty nineteen while the raiders are extremely tight lipped on this topic and so it's very difficult to know what they're thinking really liked the idea of being close to their Alameda California headquarters if they

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07/02: Projections Week! AFC East and NFC East (Fantasy Football Podcast)

Fantasy Football Today

00:00 sec | 1 year ago

07/02: Projections Week! AFC East and NFC East (Fantasy Football Podcast)

"Fantasy football today from cbs sports email us at fantasy football at cbs i dot com it's time to dominate your fantasy league here's some combination of animal cheney decided that there's just one call today ab bt andy pettitte cd you have been wondering what is the dolphins open office going to look like how great or the redskins going to be this year we are going to say even the patriots might be a little bit boring they're just gonna run the ball inside but who is going to get the lion share of the gary i'm adam either heath cummings back what a piece i am back from yesterday yes a back again yes checking directing let's begin a bed gretch how you feel like you're a part of the podcast family now you feel like acclimated you're part of the team yeah yeah i feel like a an old vote now i've been on a three time so the latest it's also i were doing it we are actually drafting as we speak hey pbr super flex start up dina's teach draft easiest drafted do a it's twenty two rounds word around fifteen and i'm gonna be on the clock soon so with that said let me turn it over to these projections or should we ran around through the nose in a little bit let's certain over the projections service cfc's where they go in alphabetical order i've been working on the alphabet and i think i've got at buffalo is first they were six and ten last year they were six then rush attempts they were twentyeighth and pass attempts how similar or different is this team to the baltimore ravens who we open yesterday show without a pretty interesting discussion then what do you protect the bills like how like compared to the ravens how similarities often says no i mean it's yeah it's kind of the exact same staying right like we talked yesterday about how lamar jackson's rushing is gonna limit the production for the running backs and the receivers because obviously people are are are catching passes a recording stats when he's running the ball 'em he wasn't a very good passer of the football football last year i mean i know a lot of people really like him but he had a a fifty three percent completion percentage he had more interceptions in touchdowns he didn't hit two hundred fifty pass yards in a game even though a you know we we saw some highlight place and downfield completions and they'll stick out in her mind like he wasn't ever a consistent yardage passer either so a it's really similar tummy and then also just unsettled depth charts at running back receiver like are there anybody is everybody here that we even want well yeah i think i make the difference between these two all fences kind of highlights how extreme baltimore is a good review buffalo is one of the most run heavy all fences and football and that will probably be the case but we don't projected been or i them have more rush attempts then pass attempts and we do have both of us at least sixty more rush attempts then pass attempts for the baltimore ravens so if they are on the ravens end of the spectrum but they are probably not going to be as run heavy as baltimore was an the the thing that really i struggle with with josh allen specifically i do think there's potential upside there he does have a an absolute rocket launcher forearm and he looked really good running the ball the difference or is it a little more designed runs right those were scrambles because that's what he chose doing because he office of line was so bad i have a hard time projecting that part of it to repeat itself judy extended their last year yeah but you are much more optimistic on allen then ben is ben projected to be qb twentyfour you project down a b two b seventeen he said you got him for about two hundred and fifty more yards sorted sixty more pass passing yards similar rushing stats five more passing touchdown so you have the starter really start start start yeah i'm not a big fan of his is passing is i just i just noticed noted that he has some some real problems there had some some real problems statistically last year a i you know i could see a little bit more passing upside then i haven't projected for a the rushing is is mikey staffer these guys everybody wants to make a lot of what he did late in the year 'em he averaged over eighty rushing yards and nearly rushing td per game over a six game stretch late in the year but my that is the sixteen game rushing pays for that for that six game outdoors and it's twelve hundred and fifty rushing yards and thirteen touchdowns he that's not doable for a quarterback there's one quarterback season in nfl history or quarterback grand four thousand yards it was michael vick and he only did at one time josh allens not gonna run for twelve yards you're not gonna earn four thousand yards and he's not gonna under thirteen touchdowns you can't expect that type of rushing production from him 'em but he does it looks like he is very similar to me in terms of the you know bringing that rushing way down we both have five hundreds in terms of rush yards and i haven't forties he doesn't five td's it's just a matter of he'd been a little higher and passing i i'm just not i i don't think he showed enough last year i i think he's a great passer all right so you projectiles shawn mccoy delete the team and carries with around one hundred and seventy finishing outside the top thirty at running back rb thirty three for heath or before thirty four benny's pbr projections by the way a but you know how do you account for devon single there's a crowd of backfield obviously you're projecting mccoy single terry yeldan gore he's out of you when you do projections account for the possibility of say i ask you this yesterday i think with the bears guys but now with the bills guys of single terry start out slow but eventually wrestling that job away becoming a a a starting running back a true starter in a fantasy option you know the impression that i get from the decisions the bills made in the off season as they do not want like even if devon single terry impresses more then i expect him to and i wasn't really a big fan of is coming into the draft i do agree it's not a bad situation because of the age and talent level of everyone in that offense like it's a possibility he could win the job but i don't think you go out and sign frank or assigned tj yeldan key plus shawn mccoy and draft devon single terry with the idea that you're going to have a feature back so i am kind of envisioning this to be eight to the three headed monster for most of the season on any battle offense with they battle offensive line which is just i can't get access well they they update did take didn't they upgrade their line i mean they definitely brought in some new faces an a lot of new faces i recall and i don't see how he could have as much easier competition like frank gore is nothing tj yeldan is a role player and mccoy yeah may mccoy's interesting but he might be at the point where he's like not well the problem is like frank gore is nothing but we we're going talk about kenyan drake in just a little bit he's been remarkably successful and i touched basis in terms of fantasy production the last two years and looked very good at the end of two thousand seventeen when he was given a feature role in frank gore still got what two hundred touches last year in miami coaches like giving the ball the frank gore especially coaches like the buffalo bills and play a band are there any receivers that were interested in from fantasy whether you're projecting from the bills receivers m yeah no i don't think there is i think robert foster's unnamed but a lot of people are interested in how he closed the season last year but i mean john brown and him as such similar profiles josh allen had the highest average death the target of any regular starting quarterback last year 'em so yeah he's gonna throw plenty of depots but you have to think john brown coming in is gonna limit robert foster steep opportunity he was almost exclusively a deep threat his eight out was extremely high don't have it in front of me but it was very very high end in his most his production was on hitting on some of those deep passes and john brown's operate in the same area of the field they're not gonna just chuck it deep every single play so that to me limits fosters upside i don't think he could catch it wasn't like fifty passes i think that's like his absolute ceiling i'm projecting in thirty catches 'em i also think it's really interesting to think about how cole beasley would even fit on and all fence where the quarterback had the highest average not the target for any for any regular starter last year because like kobe is not gonna be one of those were out so i don't think he's a very good fit i still think jay jones i haven't protect tougher to fewer targets then brown as the second receiver but i still think he's decent but i think that just means at like nobody is gonna get us a good you know target share my number was actually about jones i have in production fourth on the team in targets i don't feel confident he did league receivers and targets last year when josh allen who is under under center i shouldn't say but playing quarterback 'em i think there is a possible opportunity but again it looks more like a situation with the way stacked this receiving core where it's not going to be a guy that's getting eight targets on a weekly basis is going to be a week where one of them gets nine and then a completely different when it gets nine and then a different one it's not just the offensive line mitch morris is the key addition there he'll be their starting center and they drafted cody cody ford in these second round they brought in clinton spain from the titans china cecchi i believe it's pronounced from the redskins who's like a swing tackle and a few other names it doesn't mean it's gonna be good hopefully it will be better move onto our next team here andy it is the miami dolphins seventy nine surprising seven and nine last year twenty fifth and rush attempts thirtieth and past dempster right they're not a lot of plays last year he kind of pacer we expecting expecting from the dolphins andre new regime that's difficult because i i would expect they're going to be faster i don't wanna steal been stat but it would be hard for them to be slower let's get ben stat that 'cause i i noticed you you have a similar one for the jets but with going over there but if they're plays last year eight hundred seventy eight total claes is the first time a team was under nine hundred since two thousand six i mean that's a seemingly slow pace they they could runs many of the hundred more plays and still be well below the league average show a we should expect more plays and just because of that more pass attempts more targets more rush attempts but a you know even with some regression my projections i still don't have anyone coming out as like a really viable fantasy option other than drake who we have on the rb to range but none of the receivers fermi come out better than a wide receiver forty eight a just not really thrilled on me off it's a as a whole i am running nine hundred sixty five plays which would be a quite a bit more than last year almost a hundred more like i said but a just not not enough offense obviously that that we like and this is kind of like the lions situation where i think we have a big difference and the run pass split i anticipate there they wants to run the ball in play slower because they need shorting the games because there will be less talented then basically everyone they play they may not be able to do that they may end up throwing more passes in what their intention is but i do have been projected for fewer passes and been does and more rush attempts i love the opportunity for kenyan drake if we could just give him the workload and i know there's probably a reason he hasn't gotten it yet it was so good in those final five games in two thousand seventeen even last year my stat was he was the number fourteen running back mpp artist receiving just a hundred and seventy three judges i think there's a real chance you're looking at number one running back kenyan drake and pbr this year no like not v number one overall running back but in are being number one running back right so drake you having projected as rb twelve which obviously be number one with two hundred twenty four carries compared to one hundred and sixty seven carries for ben so you guys you should talk about the difference in your projections for kenyan drake well i think it comes back 'cause i of killing blush for more carries and ben does as well it it largely comes down to i've got the dolphins running the ball four hundred and forty times this year and ben has three hundred and eighty i think right you have those will rise gonna say to you i mean i just have them being still being a pretty slow pace and then because they're gonna be a negative game scripts kind of being forced into throwing a under for her rush temps is a really small amount and like he said he's at four fifty that's a lot more respectable number and if they get there i'm sure with the share of the backfield i'm projecting for kenyan drake i would my production look a lot like heat so i think it's more teen level i just think this often will still end up not being very good they got a conservative i mean they got a defensive head coach shin i don't i don't know if he's going to be conservative but a the the patriots former linebacker coach a floor is is it brian flora's yeah yup yup 'em so you know i i'm thinking a will still be slow paced and then when they're trailing they'll be forced to throw in second half so so that's the one place i would not argue it's been about the dolphins run pass split because i think like weird left and do nothing but speculate inspect the difference between are are projections jackson's is completely reasonable is going to try to start a fight with ben about kenyan drake projection it would be that if they do have to get in those situations where they throw the ball a lot more i would expect kenyan drake did a lot more than sixty four charts for the wide receivers kenny stills and albert wilson are both right around wide receiver forty heat for he's he's has been projected very similarly a wide receiver forty one wide receiver thirty nine for stills and wilson respectively and ben has similar projections for the two of them but not as good good a ben has wilson wide receiver forty eight and instills for a wide receiver fifty how much does the quarterback by the way were talking about for stills eight eight fifty eight of nine hundred yards and five touchdowns sounds oh no sorry i'm looking at my protect yeah i'm looking at number eight fifty nine with five and begins right around six fifty seven fifty and four or five yeah jeff wilson is how much does the quarterback matter 'cause i actually feel like fitzpatrick instills could be i think that's it yeah no i think that is a great fit in fitzpatrick's another guy who had an extremely high average dropped the target last year and in that played into it as well but i i just have a little bit more a a a few more targets going torrance might give sickie as well and i think my my spread is just wider you know i have some targets fridge akeem grant and i have some targets for some other guys miss often 'cause they they kind of did that last year nobody had a really high share so i think this might be a team that wind up being out of it in and throwing passes the other guys involving other people so not just not enough and some i'm super stoked on it and that's part of why i don't really have anybody projected for for bigger target numbers do you think there's a chance mike the sticky has they breakout season no i mean maybe but no like the short answer is no i i think there's like a a small chance but it's not something i'm chasing because i don't like the the volume any all fence i do think all three of those receivers stills wilson and parker and even jokin grand potentially will be involved enough that it's gonna be hard for him to be in a position where even you know guys like delaney walker have shown that if you get a good target sharing a slower pace oftens you could still be a viable tied on but i just don't know that he's gonna be able to get that here okay all right let's move on i think were good with the dolphins next up the new england patriots eleven and five in the regular season i don't remember what they did in the postseason thirteen rush attempts last year eleventh in pass attempts i think it's crazy you guys have tom brady projected was what like qb twenty qb johnny for both of you he like no he's gonna play every game and he's gonna be a top twelve quarterback top fifteen at worst like i don't really interested in drafting him because he has very little upset i think at this point but he's not gonna be the twentieth quarterback you kidding me come on me fake fake arguing but i do too i think that's a good time per been step yeah that's how it's gonna jump but to so it tom brady's yards per attempt in games gronkowski has played enough played the difference between the two is one point one yards per tempt that doesn't sound like it's like that big but eight point two yards per attempt is is number when gronk play that would be the best mark since the the merger among the hundred eighty nine passengers who have at least a thousand times since the merger literally the best passer in in history with gronk on the field when gronk not on the field he's down at six point nine that difference would put a bit about a hundred out of those hundred eighty nine passers it would put him behind his back up brian hoyer career mark or read ready manic right it's a massive difference in his yards per attempt on the field non i feel i think they'll do things differently my big expectation for them this year i mean the thing that we've seen with new england throughout bill bell checks rain is a willingness to fit scheme the personnel rather than trying to jam players into roles i don't think we're gonna see any tight end be the new gronkowski will definitely see them change and i my big thing is i think the running backs will get plenty of targets i think james white as a pretty stable projection i think rex burkhead is being you know just completely avoided in and maybe fairly he might not even make the team he's probably a fourth running back right now but if he does make it seem if he is active i don't necessarily think michelle harris are gonna be in the passing game i think you'll see white and birkhead in the passing game and i could see some scenarios were what were birkhead has some usable games is a pass catching back 'em so yeah i mean i think they'll they'll replace some of those tight end target swith with running back targets a but yeah it's it's gonna be really interesting to see what they do is they have different personnel and they they tend to change their whole system when when that happens all right he hit run across the cascades sorry caskey really was a total shell of himself last year and brady still finished at the top twelve quarterback so and also taylor gabriel just went two hundred twenty of some of that is because gronk is on the field defenses half the play teams differently it's not just gronk production himself it's game planning it's scheme game you have to plan for this six foot seven like you can't not be adding attention to gronkowski i find it and i will say even without gronk kelsey like do people talk about will anyone replace rob gronkowski the patriots last season through fourteen point six percent of their passes two tight ends that was the fourth lowest mark in the nfl they threw a third of their path is thirty three point five percent of their pass attempts went to running backs so who would you expect that to be like that seems high but would you expect that to be stable or the fall of this year i don't think it really can fall right unless unless and that brings me to my stats ten point six yards per targets when tom brady withdrawing the josh gordon in twenty nineteen that was the best on the patriots last season if josh gordon is reinstated at the start of training camp or we find out he's got a two game suspension that would change my outlook for tom brady just a little bit just hand i'll what's that that's it just a little bit well i don't know that i could feel confident the josh gordon going to play all the games once he's back from suspension okay there 'em but when he's on the field i would feel like there they'd better chance of tom brady being number one quarterback you would absolutely ruined the culinary for the time being so who do you projected be i'm looking at okay we got julian edelman projected as a top fifteen wide receiver he thousand four ninety catches one thousand twenty one yards and six touchdowns ben for one hundred and one catches one thousand one hundred twenty yards and seven touchdowns so a significantly better season that's like forty five fantasy points better a no no sorry twentyfive good good man he had last year no then projection action oh yeah 'em end stop moving the cursor and the google that he's so who do you projected these second leading receiver on the team so gordon is a really tough one i'm with you but he could be upset if he's playing and so i haven't projected right now forty six targets he's not gonna hit the numbers it's just kind of a silly production 'em if he it must be like wants to play games or something you know but if he's playing sixteen games i expect him to be a lot bigger part of the dolphins if he's not a playing obviously the market's gonna go somewhere else i do really like the opportunity for nikiel harry i think a lot of people aren't as excited about him yet of young breakout age i talked yesterday about looking at prospects through age adjusted persia production he was very good at a young age arizona state i know there's some film people that are not high on him of pointing out the colorado wide receiver screens and things like that that kind of stuff doesn't seem to like have been a huge issue for a lot of other prospects that have similar numbers damn he looks like a really good prospect and somebody who's a kind of on a rated in my opinion especially when when people are also throwing in the patriots history dropping receivers they they haven't taken a first round receiver since like what the early oh there's something i mean most of the guys they've drafted her third fourth round receivers nikiel harry was in my opinion the best receiver in the draft they took him in the first round a i think he's somebody that we should expect big things wrong okay what do you what do you have projected for i am eighty highly productive were eight targets part of that so josh gordon thing again i mean if gordon's horns on the field i think it makes it a lot harder for harry yeah a but i do it yeah i haven't projected for eighty targets forty nine catches six hundred thirty three yards and five touchdowns right now but again it's a hedge projection it's not something that i'm that i'm contentment yeah and i'm not really protected anything for gordon yet so i do do have harry projected to be at a number four wide receiver this season i think he's got a chance just to creep into that number three range if he really gets off to a good start camping josh gordon doesn't come back all year i don't think there's like a massive breakout available for him but i i would not be surprised at all if he's the best rookie receiver this year i might have gordon doesn't playing damaris thomas is unhealthy you don't think there's really room firmed up to break out still breakout as in eight top thirty wide receiver season yes yeah well you know that's basically where i'm at right yeah i agree all right so let's break down the patriots backfield of all the projections that we do today this one might be the most important i dunno a sony michelle coming off of a good rookie year was amazing aging in the post season a but in the regular season he was not well first of all he caught seven passes last year in didn't play every game but yeah coming off a great postseason now when we talk to ben bolan patriots beat writer you know he kind of brought up and he wasn't great in short yardage and then they invest a fairly high draft pick in damian harris and then of course there's james white who's gonna be the pass catching guy but you guys both have james white projected for seventy two seventy three carries in a little over three hundred yards it's rushing 'em so how did you go about ben splitting up the sony michelle damian harris and even rex burkhead okay yeah i mean i just kind of gas i mean it's it's really hard to tell right 'cause we know michelle shells had some some injury issues in thirteen games last year he had he got forty four percent of the rush dumps a i'm projecting infer actually slightly larger share then that this year a at forty eight percent which is still very low number one running back projection an you know i i might still be too high might not have move harris up enough yet with you know the latest reports indicating he's gonna be kind of involved only up harris at seventy russia's but we don't james white's gonna get seventy or eighty carey's 'em i have rex burkhead getting another fifty six he has even more so he i think he agrees with me on birkhead a being involved 'em but yeah it's it's a really hard thing to the serene in this is a situation where i won't drops on sony michelle and i'm lee even though he comes out as my my running back twenty six in my projections i probably won't drop them in a single eat well and i think the interesting thing here is when you look at our projections it tells you a little bit about how we see the entire position of running back because i have in his running back thirty five been about as a running back twenty six there's three point five points difference between our protection for were basically projecting at just under a thousand yards basically basically nothing in the passing game and eight touchdowns which is number three running back it's either a high end number three year low in number three but i i don't feel good about him and not npr at least as a starting right but not even a top thirty guy permit sony michelle i will i think i may have him ranked right around thirtieth just because there are pass catching running backs and i'm not particularly excited about that i have projected this were more fantasy points that right yeah if he falls at like outside of the top thirty bucks yeah there's a point where i consider him to agree with that but i i don't think that i will get him anyway he's not somebody that i'm actively targeting inhaling sony michelle was twentyfifth a non pbr thirty thirty thirty p pr your last year he played thirteen games go alrighty let's go into are last amc's team it's the new york jets an yeah i think we should start with levy on bell guys and you did not project levy on bell for double digit rushing touchdowns she has never done but he just projecting bell for two hundred and twenty seven carries that is projecting bell for two hundred and forty five carries his sixteen game pace in pittsburgh was three hundred and seventeen gary's so you do not expect that he if you could have the first word only projecting to watch twenty seven carries for levy on i think one of the most difficult things you do is protect these number of plays for the jets this season as adam gays in miami was they tortoise and not in the type of tortoise did eventually beats the hair because he's slow and steady he just go slower never goes anywhere in already gave my number of offensive plays during during stat but it's eight seventy eight and that would just adds i mean one of the things about pittsburgh not only did they used bell is workhorse but they've always been a high volume often running well over a thousand plays so i do have been protected for nine sixty five the thing that concerns me i've got him i i make up for they rush attempts a little bit in the passing game i think i haven't for fifteen twenty more targets and ben does but i've been a little concerned about adam gaces initial comments about maybe splitting up the workload just a little bit so i do have a live mcguire with a hundred and five carries and i got a few periods in their time of curry is well all right so then what do you think for living on bell this year yeah i mean i i would just echo lot of what he said the reason i'm a little lower on his passing is his target share in pittsburgh it was just massively high and i think a lot of that had to do which is how that often worked probably somebody with ben rothlisberger the way that he could extend plays he doesn't go down for a lot of sacks a sack rates always really low even though we could all you know picture him being hit in the pocket he's just a really tough gotta bring down i mean the numbers a bear that out and a lotta times that ends up what the dump off they they split amount of time and they might split amount plan you know what the jets but 'em you're probably not gonna seem split out as much is kind of like what happened what david johnson last year with a new offense didn't use in the same way that the bruce arians used david johnson an so for me i i i have lady on bell just kind of regressed more tour it's like a a good running back target share as opposed to a something closer to what he did in in pittsburgh because i just think the change of scenery in that type of thing precautions out i also think along west that alleged maguire's a decent pass catcher behind him in trenton cannon is another guy that they'll probably used a little bit and a cop surpasses last year for so i he has some guys behind him they can also catch the ball so i i i'm not super stoked about his his passing game or his passing usage and when i do have him projected for a large percentage of the rushing attempts just almost because i don't know what else to do there he's another guy that i'm just not really excited about though and then they just goes into my mikey staffer the jets a which is two numbers foreign six and foreign twentythree foreign six is lady on bell touches in two thousand seventeen a the last time he played a full season foreign twentythree just seventeen more touches that entire jets backfield last year a you can't expect him to get you know ninety five percent of the touches a sexual would be more than that i mean the the total size of the pie in terms the running back touches is gonna be way smaller for the jets a again he's point adam gays isn't as a tortoise a it's just even if they'll get still gets a huge share like he did in pittsburgh and he probably won't based on the comments were getting his share of the back for the pittsburgh was always like top of the league a even if it comes down the seventy fifth percentile and he's still getting a a cut above average share but he's not top of the league you know you're gonna see him lose more touches the backups and then the the whole size of the pie comes down and running back touches that's just like you who touches a could just drop it drop a hunter hunter touches a massive but you're already percent you still have rejected he says rb six and ben is already ate an i mean gates did sort of say you like i mean i've i've never thought he said basically he's excited using in the passing game and i understand he's not gonna get three hundred carries but fifty seven catches i dunno feels a little low low to me that's what ben has either seventy five a all right let's let's let's end i think levy on bell in the passing game obviously affects de wide receivers robbie anderson he did you give your exact that i know about the pace eight hundred and seventy eight plays the number plays the adam gates is dolphins ran in twenty eight teen very low so robbie anderson here's my stat he averaged ten point five targets per game without quinn cnn will only four games but without quits a ten point five targets per game that's huge with twenty five point one targets per game twice as many more than twice as many without a new now you've got jamison crowder there you've got levy on bell so he's how did you divvy up the targets the production for robbie anderson who is wide receiver thirty four he's wide receiver thirty eight for ben in these projections there may not be able player who's 'em usage slash piece of pie slash efficiency i've messed around west as much this pre season as robbie anderson's already because he is someone who i liked it a lot going into last year i do like his skillset i think he proved moved as an overall rout runner in twenty eighteen i hated it when adam gays was hired a run this team because that is not the type of wide receiver that has been used a lot engages often it's been more these jamison and crowder quincy and noon over the middle type wide receiver so i i had him down around where been did i bumped him up a little bit just totally based off of the comments that we got from pete prisco end from robbie anderson himself talking about how he was going to be used a little bit differently in us often they were just going to have him run as fast as he could down the field over and over again and so the idea that helped me that that cosby a bump is target share up i do think there's room for one of noon or crowder prouder to be more be better option npr i don't have good confidence has which one it will be okay and then i know if you wanna get a word in on me wider yeah no i mean i agree with that and actually think i'd be a little low anderson he had twenty one percent target share the games he played last year twenty three percent the year before he got used a little bit more as darnall got more comfortable and those willing to push the ball down the field i haven't been nineteen percent right now a part of that's because i i think jamison crowder is a pretty pretty good fit for this often use was talking about slot receiving role and i have him projected pretty high and i also have a new judge pretty i and i also have chris herndon getting a decent amount of targets although he'll be suspended for a couple of games a so my projection for him a little bit lower at sixty two targets but that's not on a full sixteen game that's it a player we know will miss some time a the thing about anderson that i would i would say in his favor is that he has you know we talked about this with some some receiving cores he has unique skill set in the score a he's a downfield guy right so at noon one's gonna play he was kind of the short field guy crowder kind of overlaps that herndon actually had a pretty high average depth the target for a tight end and i would expect him to be there kind of second downfield guy but anderson's gonna be there field stretcher an endgame shots of darnall does taken and if they don't takes a step forward and is willing to push the ball down the field more that's all really good robbie anderson i think he's point a new and more crowded those guys could overlap a little bit i do like crowder more than a noon when i just i i've always thought crowder is a pretty solid receiver just never in great spots box and this could be a situation where you gotta be a little bit better a better he only came out is wide receiver fifty two in my projection so i'm not like super high on him projections wise but i i do find myself taking him a little bit of late rounds and dress you guys are kind of low on chris herndon that's sixty targets forty catches five hundred and thirty yards four touchdowns there is a suspension there a likely coming an projecting him to be tight end twentythree for he's tied in nineteen for ben and i'll just wrap it up and say you don't have sam darnold and you're top twentyfive qb twentysix six where he'd be twenty seven for ben i'm sure pace had something to do with this but thirty seven three thousand seven hundred yards in in over twenty touchdowns but lesson twentyfive a so all right yeah i mean there's obviously pedigree potential any finished finished last year strong will see what that means i think levy on bell gonna help i mean i would call my sleeper i i would if we knew that they could run over a thousand plays and neither of us projected that i yeah i think sam darnold be an interesting sleeper the problem is in these projections were still we'll factoring in adam gays is former pace i there's upside from that sure any other problem is like you could project sam darnold for three hundred and twentyfive fantasy points which used to be a pretty good year at quarterback and he's still wouldn't crack my top twenty yeah so it's just there's so many more gonna play sixteen games others are that's style is getting up just getting okay let's move on a city see oh can we talk about the giants two teams away but just some news and notes real quick kareem hunt with questions outside a bar last weekend seems like a minor incident seems like it for kareem hunt already facing a six game suspension is equal elliott six all right i'm sorry i always forget eight eight games a is equal elliott will meet with roger goodell regarding his las vegas incident again not necessarily expecting anything a james connor says he expects his role to be similar seasons in like a week ago there were support that james connor said they were gonna cheryl workloads so who knows a mental center thinks it could be ready by week one and gregg allman of of athletic believes the peyton barber is likely a finished with more yards and ronald jones we will projected in sell some morrow all right to the nfc east of the dallas cowboys they were ten and six last year they won the division tenth and rush attempts twentyfirst in pass attempts all right so so dak prescott is going to be one of the more interesting players that we talk about in leading up to drafts i'm not really but like he threw six more pass attempts per game with a mario cooper them without amari cooper i'm not buying that they're all fence is changing see that much they have a new coach a new coordinator and kellen more same coach a you know what are you buying it he's 'cause you have dak projected to be qb twelve are you thinking that they throw more than than usual well first off projecting deck to be a qb twelve is just basically protecting that could be when he's been most of his career number one quarterback and fantasy yeah i guess but but take quarterback i mean i know that our strating to you know i i liked dak prescott i just think he's a low upside player i don't necessarily disagree is a low upside a lot of people disagree yeah 'em in my mind number was actually a deck prescott number it's forty three eighty eight that's his sixteen game pace per passing yards after amari cooper arrived arrived i expect this all fence to be a little bit more creative than it was last year yeah it's still going to be a month like on if you're dividing offenses in the fifty fifty half of them are more run heavy half of their and more pass this one will be more run heavy i believe but i don't it's not like seattle it's not like baltimore i don't even think it's probably quite like buffalo there's going to be enough attempts for dak to approach four thousand yards he hasn't that whenever you've got a number one wide receiver is actually a number one wide receiver he's been a very good passer he always runs for six touchdowns i've only got unprotected five which seems stupid because he always runs for six but yeah i think it'd be top twelve quarterback and veteran that in four point where pass touchdown like yeah i haven't fifteen points away from my top twelve a mickey seventeen but i'm not like down on him he's definitely somebody though i just took him in the dynasty draft you you you reference it we were were drafting during the show i took him in that draft i i think he's a good quarterback label quarterback yeah he's gonna provide the rushing you're a the rushing numbers i only have four four rushing touchdowns and fewer rushing yards and he's which means and i probably more conservative on on his rushing he's point he's rushed for six td's i think it all three seasons right yup so he's you know were were protecting her lesson that this year but he could easily do that again 'em i you know i i have a little bit more conservatively projected but definitely somebody that i like in the back in you know in in the rb to ranges especially if i wait on a quarterback to be a and i feel comfortable with him as my starter 'cause i know he's gonna provide solid for what the rushing and he at least has weekly upside i would say because when he does have fifty or sixty rushing yards and gets a rushing td that's when he hits a twenty five point games and they'll do come fairly frequently for him and yeah i really like about fall for that reason is well i mean he's it you just very stable quarterback oh he is that that's the thing he he is stable but does he have upside like i'm always i'm comparing the jimmy garoppolo all off season 'cause i feel like everybody's gonna want dak and i'm gonna take rob lowe i see grapple having a lot more upside but if they really are more pass heavy any throwing six times more per game then he usually does that is a huge deal i just feel like they're a run team first in you know that that's their identity is equal elliott had a shockingly low amount of rushing touchdowns last year you guys haven't projected for eleven for heath ten for ben 'em you know i wouldn't surprise me if he had fifteen but he you do have he is zeke projected as rb one in pbr do you rank it that way i do rank it that way they only thing it's made me question is this silly meeting with roger goodell 'cause i'm afraid they're gonna throw some suspicion mentioned that i'm just because there's some history there 'em but no like in i think one of the questions we talked about was is work in the passing game in something that just shocked me because i went to protect the dallas defense i tried to look more at what were they like after amari cooper got there it's over half the season if you got the playoffs you look at what he did he was on pace brought more targets after maury cooper got there than he was before hoover arrived they actually threw the ball more to elliott with cooper there so i don't really worry about cooper taking away the targets he showed that he could handle that role in the passing game last year an there have been reports that they are prioritizing extending dak extending amari cooper and there have not been in discussions with kelly about extending him i think they may just using there have been some rumblings it there they'd be willing to or or want to cut him back a little bit too right and they they were a playoff team last year right yep yep an i think you know they expect to be again this year when you get to that point you wanna you wanna make sure that you're players healthy in unavailable in the playoffs a it's interesting though i'm looking at my projections i have a elliott projected for the most rush attempts in a league he thousand four twenty two more rush attempts and protected for the most yards rushing yards in a league keith has honored and fifty more rushing yards rushing td's he has an extra rushing td so maybe i'm just a little bit more unwilling to projector really monster rushing total but i don't think he's not necessarily wrong one thing about ezekiel elliott is every season of his career so far he's led the nfl in rushing yards per game a wow you definitely has the ability to have a fifteen hundred yard rushing games a season i just think for me like my baseline projection of a little bit more conservative on that the big difference in are projection though a even more than that that rushing defense i think is the passing game and that's my my key status leak first two seasons he had fifty catches combined in twenty five games last year at seventy seven in in fifteen games i mean that's obviously a massive increase e what you had almost twenty more catches than the two seasons combined will that sustain and i think that's something saying that we should be a little bit concerned about especially considering that the cowboys went and drafted tony pollard who's a specific type of backing only at a hunter and for or excuse me hunter thirty nine college russia's in this whole college career he played some receiver hotter earn four catches in college he's definitely a pass catching back i think they might use him like they used limp dunbar on the past so if they are concerned about zeke's usage and the detroit cut it back that selection in the draft makes me think they're gonna try and take him off the field a little bit on passing down scotty old traditional rat where you have a third down back comes in that would make it really hard physique to the matches seventy seven catches from last year so i'm a lot lower on his his receiving projection and for me that that drops in the running back for a drop some like a pretty much cheer behind the other three running backs it were all talking about the top top dress i would be i don't think there are too many players like i haven't running back one been hasn't running back for i don't there too many players there were sixty five fantasy points apart on though a cpr it's it's a big difference in the mario cooper you guys have rejected heath at wide receiver thirteen bennett wide receiver sixty but similar projections about eighty two eighty three catches about one thousand one hundred fifty yards and then gave may touchdown game seven expecting around a hundred and thirty targets so very solid player those numbers right there tell me third late third round pick probably wide receiver thirteen wide receiver sixty maybe fourth round value but steady player there do you see real quick any hope from michael gallup to be fantasy relevant heath you actually have higher projections freak out ninety five targets only seventy five forbid more production yeah so i could answer for been in say probably not asks maury cooper or ezekiel elliott go down i just don't think they're 'cause like even with me talking about dak throwing the ball a little bit more and then not being quiet is run heavy i still expect you're going to see i have very a high percentage of this off of the targets going to cooper anneli it i think gallup's in oh kay late round best ball wide receiver i'd expect he's gonna have a cry pretty good games he's terrance williams right like remember i mean i'm gonna play that terrance williams will you'll have some splash plays are never going to feel comfortable putting on my lineup okay so let's go to the giants everybody's been waiting for this five and eleven million do yeah five and eleven no was okay crappy team nineteenth and rush attempts ninth and pass attempt scored the most points in the nfc east last year people so how does h possible quarterback midseason quarterback replacement or early season whatever change your projections if at all well it's funny i i split up my quarterback projections on teams where i think there might be a little bit of a a little bit of a change their mostly just so i could change rushing rushing rights if i think there's a backup quarterback they would run at a different rate a i predicted he lying and daniel jones for essentially the same passing efficiency numbers i don't think eli manning's a very good quarterback at this point i don't think jim jones will be able to step in as a rookie and be really efficient so just protect them for the same essentially the exact same profile as a passer so i don't think it's gonna change much for me know and this is like not either of them can run so i know that false what do you mean daniel jones is they is it yeah dinner don't say russia heck he's eight mobile quarterback he actually moves pretty well so you a hater you know anything about the i don't think he i haven't projected for more rushing yards you lie and one third of the passing yards i actually got a protect upper thirty one rush your heater but i got it got it for a touchdown a mobile quarterback he nine hundred and seventy two passers i assume you i'm starting six games at in dubai games at a shit about percent so i have about a quarter of the season so four games and you i it at three quarters basically been jones is amazing so a joke that daniel jones getting her cowboy name beds projections of dead or judge they don't show the socks with ben jones is great i sikwan barklay you guys both adam is rb to to so if if i had a stat and i've given it so many times so i'm sorry but first eight games of the season he's on pace for a hundred and sixteen catches last eight games of the season he's on pace for sixty six catches both times though he's not paid for more the two thousand total yards just one time more of russia at one time more of a passer late in the year started giving the ball more all i'll give you my second underway along with the giants lost five games by touchdown last year saquon barkley saw at least eight targets in all five of those games games he averaged eleven point two targets in those five games so you know typically those running backs you want your team to be in a league the you're gonna get more touches sake one very clearly a game script proof if his team is way behind he's gonna get all those shutdowns from eli okay yeah and they're gonna i think we both have steak one projected elite the giants and targets or at least i do i think i held their own shepherd to target to more yeah i all right so barclays pretty self explanatory he's great now how did you break down v receivers shepherd tate who scores the most fantasy points in b y n b pass catching well not barkley but among the wide receivers and tight ends then who scores the most fantasy points i shepherd ahead and i mean it's just kind of a philosophical thing where i think it's hard for tight ends to be the number one option a i think it's certainly possible but the thing is that guy i but i have shepherd kind of plainly ob jay roll a dave richard wrote a really good piece about how he would split out more outside when lbj wasn't hasn't been hasn't been in the lineup over the last couple of years we know takes us law guy i'm expecting shepherd be outside and kind of be that ob jay type presence i don't think he's obviously gonna be nearly as good but i think what's that will come up pretty solid target share we know in he lies history before odell he's still targeted guys you know like his number one receiver at a really high radio victor cruz had a really big season with him you know about the plaxico burress you could go back to a amani cooper tumor even a so for me i think shepherds gonna get the opportunity to have a big target season i haven't projected for you know i haven't potential one seventeen not a ton but he is somebody is pretty interesting to me i think tate also rack up targets in the slot but just not be a used the way that he has typically leaned on his top target which is how i expect shepherd abused i've i've got the very very close with a slight edge to golden tate i do think he catches more passes i wouldn't be surprised if shepherd is better than him and yards i think ingram probably gets his the most receiving touchdowns but all three of them are right within like eight fantasy points so each other and my projections i do have a slight edge to take bp are angry my favorite non pbr i'm looking at you're evan ingram projections you guys both having four hundred and one two hundred nine targets sixty eight or sixty seven catches very very similar eight hundred four eight hundred and five yards and six touchdowns so nearly identical stats that projection make some tight end for an i just look at that and say eight hundred four yards and six touchdowns to me is not good enough to justify i've had this conversation before i haven't again not good enough to justify a top fifteen pick it might be tight end for i don't think it will be enough separation between tight end five through twelve or whatever to justify a top fifty pick and that's where i've seen him go as forever i agree with that yeah i think the the the big three tight ends going as high as they are pulling that second tier of tight ends higher than they should be going and i i like all those guys i like ingram oj howard hunter henry but i agree with you top fifty picked you're talking about the into the start of the fifth round i wouldn't take any of those guys personally until the fifth round so that's what a hundred and eighty fantasy points yeah about fifty more than where the number twelve tied it was last year a forty more than where the number nine tied in was last year i tried it generally i don't do it exactly but 'em using some whatever they value base drafting approach based on how much they're outscoring scoring the replacement cost at that position and i think he's pretty close to a top fifty pick all right i guess like yeah well i guess you know it's gonna come down is yeah top fifty free like i would take him in the fifth round out outside side of the top fifty like is he closest out fifty years utah i am going to look like i'm i'm not i think i haven't been the top fifty i'm just verifying right now and just so you know like those numbers eight hundred eight hundred have in the top fifty fifty seven ingram is low eight hundred your eight hundred yards six touchdowns i mean his pace without odell beckham has blown away so it has not included golden tate though which is the issue my concern with all these guys is like i know everybody hates eli manning i think he's going to be better than daniel jones this year and when they do turn it over to daniel jones when they're out of it if that does happen i think everybody's numbers are gonna suffer including maybe sake one barclays it it's hard it no but it's definitely a orange i imagine somebody being worst thing you know you're wrong and what the thing is like and this should be part of your projections you lie manning statistically had a much better year last year then he did the year before right yes why why in europe i know the answer but in your opinion why do you think that was well he had odell beckham so bad the year before well that's part of it but why is he better last year in my opinion is two things he had the best running back he's ever had any had the best offensive line he's had a long time and it's and that's not saying much there wasn't that good but you're three times as many games but this year it could be but no not is but he was he was better last year the problem was two years ago to anyway or three years ago whatever my point is you finally getting manning in office of line which he hasn't had since they won the super bowl and you finally giving a running back it makes a difference you know like they're gonna have a i would say tops in office of line that'd be my guess so maybe maybe he won't just give up the job daniel jones a i dunno level at the heart of that here part of you're point on on saquon barkley a he had a point three average depth the target last year i mean a lot of running backs up low average at the targets but his third in the nfl in yards after the catch i mean yeah those were just free archery like where he's dumping all i know there was a gamer sake one one of a double digit targets games where he had like negative twenty yards 'cause you i just kept dumping enough to my five yards behind the line of scrimmage and just said go make a play any actually caught like fifty yards in that game because he had so many yards after the catch and he can make those plays so i mean i i think there is something to be said about that it's seven hundred a southern something yards after the catch the guy that out because saquon barkley mean he he is probably going to be the best running back ever i'm just gonna alright eagles eagles a here we go be philadelphia eagles were nine and seven they were twentieth and rush attempts seventh and pass attempts he's how much do you hate having carson wentz projected as qb five a not at all i don't have any emotional attachments to to my rankings or projections what's their staff of the eagles 'em my stats for the eagles is forty six point five percent that's the percentage of the eagles targets that went to wide receivers in twenty eighteen these lower house percentage in the league in fighting for one thing that's not great for the philadelphia wide receivers but then you add into that they went out in added the sean jackson they've drafted jay jaw there are not enough football's to go around in this office so what does that mean well who suffers first i it puts say a pretty serious cap on a guy who you think that i hate that the al sean jeffrey you do it and it's definitely hurts all of these other wide receivers and i i don't think it's going to have any impact on zach ertz but it might hurt the pass catching running backs a little bit okay and i mean the the eagles haven't used the running backs in like a ton a in the passing game i think if you go i i'm not a hunter percent last year but if you go back the year before when sproles was hurt in a giant leap they're mainly back didn't have that anyone that season catch one of the like twenty prophets i mean it was a very very low you search for the legal passing it they just throw they through thirty six percent of their passes titans last year that's right i think five percent more than any other team yeah 'cause urge ain't got both gonna be involved in there yeah exactly they're gonna get a ton of passer and this is a team that will push the ball down the field carson wentz is gonna rock up there is a great quarterback i haven't qb nine am i projections but i will say he's less than a half a point literally behind both of the two guys ahead of him a an ten points behind mikey before which came in so he just a big tier there from key before down even keep these three down to the qb nine so that's that's where it went falls but i you know i he's had some at a qb five and you could easily be my tv five as well if i just had a productive for like one more passing touchdown well what about us shing silver carson wentz his rushing totals in last two seasons two hundred ninety nine yards in thirteen games and then only ninety three yards and eleven games right he's coming back from the the really a catastrophic knee injury right and so you'd think maybe he'll bounce back a little bit this year but i don't have a projected for much rushing this year i kinda split the difference between those two avenue at one ninety six i feel like that might be a little bit high but i like one fifty two hundred somewhere in that range yeah it's a big deal with me not necessarily is rushing totals but his mobility and whether or not he's going back to you know just being able to get out of the pocket i'm sure that's a very difficult thing to reject you because he had a back injury but he's coming back from now we don't know what his health is you know i can't imagine but you go by his rates last year they were they were really good but he also fumbled the ball out last year and left a lot of points on the board an just didn't like even when he was worth starting carson wentz was not amazing last year and he's kind of always like he led the nfl quarterbacks and fumbles in twenty sixteen that was his rookie season mhm yeah all right so that's interesting but you don't really talk about that a lot but it it kills possessions and it loses points so clean that up i let's get the running backs been giving staten let's talk about the running backs with eagles yet a no philly running back last year played more than sixty five percent of the snaps in a game 'em in two thousand seventeen there were there were one of two teens who didn't have a black back play more than sixty percent in more than one game they had a couple of guys do that one time and typically when they have these really high apertures i think the highest won that game that year was staring sproles in week two before he got hurt it's one there in these like game situations where they have their pass catching back onto the entire second half or something like that but when they're in any kind of reasonable game script they rotate more than any team in the league they have since doug peterson took over alway let me me interrupt you let me ask you this do you think they've done that because they haven't had the guy they liked their or or or or should we look at what j a giant did when he got that wasn't midseason trade so that was kind of stuff together blunt was still getting a lot of work like ten mile sanders overcome this historic that's why i went back to the giants right because people said that a lot last off season about jay jay year because people said that a lot about a dry last off season that his workload workload ramped up late year and it did but they went on a super bowl run in a lot of people talked about that playoff run it was mainly because they got into a lot of positive game scripts they got hot at the end of the regular season in one throughout the playoffs so they're in situational places places where ajay would get more touches his snap sure did rise a ton he's just getting more touches purse not because they're running a lot in the second half it like he wasn't all of a sudden feature back in i don't think we would have seen that last year how do you not gotten hurt he didn't it wasn't that way in the first couple weeks before he did get hurt 'cause i got no no back on their team played one sixty five percent last year company does look at that though 'cause he must have gotten hurt in week two and then again in week five is he missed week three but he had fifteen carries in week one center ten seven carries a week to fifteen carries and week for an eight and week five but it seems like he got hurt and weeks two and five when he only had the seventy looks like it's healthy games edge i had fifteen carries in both games right so my my whole point because it's not shared none of those games over sixty five percent my whole point there as he was the closure he was their big power back these these guys rotate backs and those were game situations where they gave him second half russia's and the guy that i think that's gonna be the eagles this year jordan howard i think they brought in jordan howard to be that guy miles sanders is more of a multi dimensional guy a so the guy who might have a fifteen kerry game i doubt a dry you have the game long enough but i doubt he had very many targets in any of those games a second game he had four targets in the first game he had not right so it's more just like a a rushing heavy not target heavy role i think sanders you're gonna see play more in the first half the games when they want to a you know be like not tip off what they're doing whether it's running her passing but they still like the fact they brought in howard is the reason that i think the sanders might have a hard time overcoming this because i think they're still gonna have different backs or different roles is essentially where i'm at and i actually was more optimistic about sanders the start of the summer but i don't think it helps him at all then he missed so much off season stuff in his rookie season i i don't think there's much of a path for him to start the season having a good workload he could be someone that makes more pop in the second half but even when he does i think they borderline borderline number two high end number three running back and probably nothing more all right i if i were gonna take me optimistic approach it would just be that i don't really think very much of jordan howard i think the eagles could obviously be a high scoring team as they were two years ago they took a step back last year but you're talking about could be a great offensive line a quarterback you guys like a lot so i just want the run the starting running back on that team totally jordan howard totally get where you're coming from well no my thing is like talents gonna win out an by weakside if they're smart they'll let loose and let miles sanders go like they they pretty much did with josh adams last year because they they were forced to buy all say i think that's possible i mean i don't think just because they've done what they've done in the last three years that we should assume the eagles have no possibility of having a workhorse running back when it's right mile sanders is that good and he's just clearly the best player they're gonna play i mean i i would assume so and we've definitely seen that with similar trends and other teams in the past where they go away firm based on the player talent and he could force his way i don't think that's insane i've got a new a stat for the eagles okay adam inspired by you because you hate carson wentz it in scarsdale wins entered the nfl two thousand sixteen no player has fumble more than cloud yeah it's it's really something you gotta look at i feel it's act prescott number two dak prescott is nine really okay if you lie manning number two you manning is eight oh who's who's number two a winces tied with russell wilson who's played eight more games and him an james winston who is a notorious bumped way yeah all right i just give me a yes or no dallas goddard fantasy relevant this year no does decker it's gonna hurt and sure yeah yeah you should you should handcuff hot take handcuffed zach ertz with dallas got her if you had take if you have more than sixteen rounds i mean he's a great player right but no dancers now yes do they really quickly wanna mention just sean jackson they'll 'cause he's a guy who improves almost every quarterback he's played with he improves their efficiency it's similar to what we were just talking about with gronkowski being on the field even if he's not getting target jackson is always been that guy in his career until he plays james winston she did have that effect on ryan fitzpatrick is well whatever sean jackson's in a lineup it's good for the quarterback so that's one reason that i'm optimistic about wentz and definitely wanna have some some once this year and could you could have a big year i'm glad i took the sean jackson a dynasty league today no i know a lot of objects does not make fantasy teams better he makes quarterbacks brent well yeah by team as a quarterback okay so let two quarterbacks in fact let's go last team the redskins thanks for listening everybody we will be back a the redskins are a seven and i last year they were pretty good with for alex smith got hurt an they were fourteenth and rush attempts twenty six and pass attempts ben is currently projecting case keenum he is not he think dwayne haskins starts from day one i pretty much just project one quarterback oh okay so yeah i but i think he does an if it's looking like he won't change the case keenum but regardless i'm not going to draft i drove them yeah my thought on haskins i actually think he might start week one but i think this is such a bad situation for success that it's gonna be really hard for him to play from week one to week sixteen like essentially i think we might see sean kaiser situation when he was in cleveland where she's not gonna look as good because he's not gonna be getting the protection he doesn't have very good receiving weapons and then he might get benched then rain starting late in the year a i think it's gonna be really hard draft and make it through sixteen games because you look at how much falls on the quarterback let's let's talk about let's talk about the running backs but let's do some stats i hope you're stature about the running backs here ben what you're stat no are the same way way way it well that's about jordan reed 'em tell convince me why this is not the worst offense in the nfl and how that's going to affect de running backs nobody wants to drive through and what why would we do that convince you of that is this do you think this is the worst offensive i think there should be the team where the number one running back it's drafted the latest probably a i i think there is a little bit upside of various guys but i think probably there should be a running back taken from every single team before before guy maybe not every single team but very close so that before guys just because we've already heard talk but they're gonna bring him on a little slowly they brought back adrian peterson chris thompson's gonna play in the passing game i mean that guy is still alive and very good a it's just not a good situation to be targeting any of these bats so what how many touches you guys projecting precarious guys he made it through a honeymoon yeah just under two hundred touches a not a lot in the passing game hunting seventy four rush attempts eighteen catches a cause i have chris thompson and catching fifty three passes again because they don't have any real weapons in the passing game they may yeah i jake's various guys could just be like it's gonna be hard for him to have success when adrian peterson's running for two thousand yards it's which running back would you drew at first base 'em i don't plan on drafting either of them this season but you do have guys ahead of him and you've thompson had both a so i would've said this when it comes to the redskins they they do not bending either not projecting a top thirty five running back not projecting eight top fifty wide receiver with paul richardson being be favorite wide receiver on the team at about seven hundred yards and four touchdowns and then let's get the jordan reed than just that is a he's a top ten tight end the projections aid for heath ten for ben ben was the jordan reed stat he's you go first okay okay jordan reed lead washington with eighty four targets last season despite the fact that he only played like twelve games and one play and then mine is in jordan reads career five point eight targets per game is his low he's never average viewer the five point eight targets per game in any season of his career he's always been hurt but when he's on the field you you're gonna get six six targets per game almost minimum and now there's no competition here yeah i think last year he was actually cause if you take out that one game against the giants were they ended his season where he basically didn't play another twelve games he ever six point nine last year almost seven targets it's per game that's pretty well but when he might all bad last year though what's that he was so bad even though he like if you look at the start of the season he start it off with four forty eight and a touchdown that's very good and pbr then you get six fifty five that's good enough in p pr for four sixty five that's good enough and pbr like i don't i don't what happened in his officiency with a lot worse in his first five years of his career he caught at least seventy four percent of the pass is there were thrown to him every single season which is high i mean titans even lower eight tight ends up still very high a but he was right between seventy four and seventy seven percent every single year last year was down sixty four percent so easily his career low in terms of catch rate i got it anymore guys i think he's i think he's to beat up i think he's broken down jordan reed i'm not just saying you can't finish in the top ten tie that but i i think like you know in previous years even last year you're thinking well not only guinea finishes the top ten tight end but he's also been a top two tight end of the past and he's this great player i i think he's more like if he finishes in the top ten tight end it's just because of targets not because of talent anymore at this morning yeah for me it's more about this jordan reid is available after about fifteen titans are probably going to be taking your draft nobody seems to want it take him in our addressed it for me it's more about it suming jordan reed is healthy in training camp he is currently healthy we know that i would just as soon if i haven't got one of the top six or seven wait till the end of the draft take jordan reed and all start until he gets hurt and he'll adopt he'll be a top ten tight end until he gets hurt he may not finished yet through sixteen games the top ten titan but i expect he will be for as long as he plays and then i'll find somebody that stream so i actually have a different take on his numbers last year then adam i don't think that he doesn't necessarily doesn't have it anymore yeah she played thirteen games last year which is the second most in his career he didn't get the sixteen he's never gotten the sixteen but this is a guy that in twenty fifteen twenty sixteen in p pr leagues points per game he was a tight end one both years better than gronk yeah and that's three in four years ago i mean this guy has the opportunity it should be a complete target hog and be very very productive and so my take on last year's like he actually was reasonably healthy he's now further removed from that foot thing looking like it could completely end his career 'cause he did get three more games last year they did limited snaps and try to keep him healthy last year a little bit he's probably not gonna play sixteen games get a couple of maintenance games definitely a risk but i agree with heat you can get i'm so late you could blame until he gets hurt any has the per game upside where you know we just saw sorry reasonably healthy jordan reed season where he got volume and really just inefficiency issue if haskins plays and asking says good jordan reed could be a top five tight end until he's hurt but just to clarify didn't mean like he can't he's broken down he can't stay healthy which i mean it's kind of true but i just mean like he's been robbed of his explosiveness as lettuce ism what we saw in the past i just don't think he's the same player but look i you know i don't i don't know that for sure i'm not a scout is sort of what i what i felt when i was watching and play a and then i would say this it's it's soon as alex smith got hurt in the texans game that's when jordan restarted playing better you know started putting up better numbers like 'cause he was he was pretty much tropical smith got hurt i think colt mccoy came in and like there is a little bit of a brief one of the three game like two to three game renaissance landings like two and a half games for jordan reed a so maybe allegory got hurt and they finished with josh johnson who's right scrambler so maybe maybe alex smith killing him who knows 'em all right guys well that would be amc's in the nfc east we will come back tomorrow and give you these west no the south amc an nfc south and then on thursday you will hear

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they routed for each other a they support each other and they build me out many many times a tremendous a athlete's foot ballplayers but even better people yeah i also thought their talents complimented each other i mentioned about what you could do anything i mean he could play inside or outside charlie he was an outside receiver who really worked well in the slot and really when you look at all the slot receivers now like you're wes welker 's charlie joined her was was the forerunner of a lot of that and then on the outside the dynamic jefferson who could catch anything thrown his way and then equally dynamic west chandler who could run through an entire defense once you got his hands on the ball so i to me it was a it was just a phenomenal a group of guys to throw the ball to i think dan there were two a one additional one subtraction that were really key during that period of the defense speakers at six three two hundred and forty five pounds and he could run a four five forty and just tough as nails he i mean he was a very very influential in setting up play action passing game obviously the threat of muncie running out you was it was a scary thought frit defense so that allowed us to get better pass protection in it or receivers have more room down the field because the defense would be concerned with the run muncie and they would be having to respect that man the loss of course once read demus traded to san francisco i really thought that that was something that heard that a team of my correct any observation i don't question fred then went on to be a hall of fame career because of what he did in san francisco a now that really did hurt are defense that same year the owner decided the ship john jefferson off the green bay although he did reach radio themselves by picking up west chandler that same year so a that was okay but you know losing dean was huge because with louis culture and gary johnson in lee roy jones we had a formidable front four with fred dana's well so a three of those four johnson culture and dean are they only starting defensive lineman ever start a game in the pro bowl and you could look that up that's a fact the san diego chargers they all hamming in oakland in and i remember covering the one against oakland and that was the game i remember two things one i thought you were going to win in two if i hear this is it one more time the meat i'm gonna shoot myself tell me about those two championship games but i'd rather not either a woman a you know that that that that song kenny loggins this is it a apparently are the son of are owner of michael clients so that'd be a good idea to play that song before the game and as you marked a he he played it over and over that was before they had trouble in cincinnati was one i'd rather not talk about yeah i don't know how teams in the west coast and warmer climes and i've talked to a lot of the cincinnati bengals players that played in that and they said they came out and they warmed up without any shirtsleeves on and everything and i don't know how you guys did it did it really steel or a really demand a lot of attention when you guys were playing the game but it was windy in in for a quarterback that's a that's a real enemy for you because a a when you combine by with the call the slipper the ball is what it's called a you know those are my two excuses so ron you gotta give a you gotta give kenny anderson in the end the bengals a lot of credit they've they handled the weather and they played better than we did that day in the time then we have left i wanna ask you about you're transition off the field in eventually into broadcasting and everything how hard was it for you to leave the field for the last time it's never easy for for any athlete i don't many athletes at a leave the field on on their own a solution or or record i mean it's it's a situation where you think you complain forever and you you want to but situations changing teams change the fire head coaches and all of a sudden they're looking for younger quarterback and so i knew my diet days were limited a number in san diego so i went out and a kind of a made a deal with cbs before i was totally done and so i had something to fall back on right away not everybody can make that transition into the broadcast booth but of course with your dad's background and having tag along with him when he was broadcasting in everything get it make it easier for you did you know what to expect what was the biggest part of your transition well you know there's a lot of things that go into it in in part of it i think the toughest thing for next player is to be critical of of the players that he's watching at the moment and a because as as a teammate you're you're always being supportive and if a guy makes a mistake you know usually the coaches handle that so i think that part of it the way i would handle criticism in the way i do now is to envision what the players going to hear from the coaches in the in the team meeting the next day a whether it's good or bad and i've been enough of those meetings and and hurt enough good or bad about my own play that a i think that's a fair way of going about it well is the perspective that you had from the broadcast that might have been different from being on the sideline or even in the game well it's a lot better view number one it's a lot more comfortable seat number two you feel like a roman empire sometimes you get the best seat in the house and you got people telling you what they say in a television set so a it's a it's a great job did you switch it was the pressures seeing similar to a playing on the field as well as a producer or director talking in year and he executives that either cbs or or nbc or cbs or nbc telling you what they wanna have to make it entertainment value well you know i i don't really rick recalled too much of a a you know the suits telling you what to say or you know early in my career there was a lot of a constructive criticism and a you know the big thing i think is that you know be honest and and a deer homework and be prepared that's that's the most important thing it's a new year due diligence during the week when you talk to coaches and players and and then you get it puts you're put it all together whether you're a play by play announcer and you're director and producer you i did monday night football and you work with al michaels and also dennis miller and i never quite understood that pairing of miller in group how hard is it to develop the chemistry with broadcasters with really only one microphone in yet everybody trying to use it well there's a rhythm to it a three man booth is it's very difficult the there's no question about that a an especially when the third man's a comedian he's got his jokes already written out on a on a sheet so a you know he's gonna get those in at some point but i enjoyed working with dennis who is a of fun and they opportunity to work on monday night football for a couple years without michael's was experience at a second to none and you also work when college football with one of the all time greats keith jackson now tell me a little bit about that relationship it's a great relationship i am in touch with keith regularly we share a laugh every now and then a working side by side i think one of the toughest things for me was to realize that i had the talk at times times because i was enjoying just listening to the great keith jackson and there were times he looked over at me and say oh you could talk now felty we only have ninety seconds left dan but when you look at the pro football from a broadcast standpoint point in college football are you happier about doing one of the other i mean did you enjoy going back to the college game kind of reliving some moments as you were saying oregon you know there's there's a real prices for both games and a college excitement a unpredictability v atmosphere a is is always going to be better than the nfl and makes it exciting so i enjoyed both a i really enjoyed being paid for either final question for you when you think back on you're playing career is there are moments that's kind of crystallized in dan fouts his mind and body makes you smile now they're just too many i mean we played in so many high scoring games and had so many wonderful moments that a you people wanna talk about the miami playoff game a lot but i enjoyed playing in san francisco against montana one day and then of course my battles with jim plunkett with the raiders is well so a lot of great memories and i'm just thankful for for every moment dan i wanna thank you very much for your time wonderful career at all so you've been friends for a long time great broadcasting career as well you're welcome anytime here on sports byline take care dan thank you ryan thanks man dan fouts again hall of fame quarterback her back and he was one of the most prolific passing quarterbacks during the seventies 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business for better than fifty years take me back to those early days about covering sports broadcasting broadcasting sports what was it like at that time well first of all we had they get over the fact that the press hated us ten so if if if a press conference is called an radio guys were in the room they print print journalists would get up and leave so it was very friendly but it was great there is so much happening in san francisco coming up with professional football is the big one and then all the players play baseball here went up to the big leagues and they were sort of are heroes and then they came in san francisco and they've done pretty well how did you get involved with the forty niners because at the time the forty niners were part of the all american conference one thing yeah that's right tony more data storage professional football here in san francisco and i've always felt that he should be in the hall of fame because he brought it professional football to all of northern california but anyway a i was doing a college stuff and a it was a great meter have to be involved with the forty niners of franco newly was they one of the owners that he he worked i work with him when he was doing he wished that of west see their company there was a sponsor so he gave me a chance when they a forty niners went on their son dan he is always kind of been a part of the forty niners at least when he was growing up you said that he was a ballboy at that time how old was he when he was a ball boy well he was in high school sandy ignatius highschool school and he was down on the sidelines across the way and he really got a good feeling of what happens in pro football when john brody was a hero but a lot of crowd noise but when he's having a bad day they from cans hands of beer at him as he went into the locker room so then saw both of what what who is all about and i elevated him in an increased his salary by making him my stat man and he the best one i ever had in in pro football a you know he was a high school championship shaded asia's they won their first championship with him and then a was drafted by the chargers played fifteen years of of the nfl and one of the best thrower at that time anywhere in in the national football league what what's keys are stadium where the forty niners played initially like well it's heated sixty thousand and they only problem with a thirty thousand were in the end zone on one side of the field there's they stand for very short john and a it's a it everybody played there so by time nfl got through it was no grass they had a paint the mud and a little bit of grass green so look better but it was a great old stadium no you know benches notice each and the people turned out for and they enjoyed this eagles used a have a day a added as well i i dunno house eagles know when the games coming to an end but they always do and san francisco where you're practically on the water a i could imagine what it was like yeah some games i covered college football there were more segel's and people in the fans but they have seemed to have a feel for what they should be getting all they a popcorn and stuff the fans would leave so it it it was not a great place to broadcast from cbs television because you couldn't see one quarter of vm's on a whole press box upstairs and and their city wouldn't do anything until some guy got paid for it himself when he came in could be on top of the roof off the place so that was better anyway he had worked out you were part of one of the more infamous moments in professional football history you were broadcasting the minnesota forty niners game with jim marshall wanna tell everybody what happened well myrow with a quarterback and he threw a pass to billy kilmer solo the ball and marshall jim marshall came running in he got spun around so he saw the ball bouncing any what's wrong way he headed down to the forty niners renzo seeking you're scoring a touchdown across the way northbound blocked in the head coach were screaming and yelling at him as a forty niner by the name of bruce supposedly one of our guards he was in back of marshall as he went down the field and marshall saudi what's changed him but as he crossed the goal line goes they grabbed shannon's congratulations and the forty niners had two points one of the euro dart when you're other great stories about sponsors and of course back when you were broadcasting in those early days the commercials were done live and you had eight milk sponsor did you not tell me about that a new sponsor no you had a milk sponsor oh milk spot oh yeah yeah and we frankly albert in i did the show and the part of their repartee was just say well i guess you use no for training and keeping in good shape and he said no it's a matter of fact it blows me anyway we had a hustle recover from that when you think back in going back into the early days of broadcasting uncovering a team how deferred compared to as you moved along in your career covering teams and and even other sports how is that changed for a broadcaster well if you're in baseball if you have a perpetual job and the other side it's pretty good but a i don't know it a it was a well that's one of the things you're going into the television is that a at a had plenty of time to study for the game and the teams involved the forty niners you assistant three weeks in chicago play the bears then go up and play the lions then go up to green bay play the packers along three weeks there and the players got pretty tired of as i did as recall was but a regularly feel with a terrific take place to see a gaming and be involved with this and it gets so cold up there they george hellish papa george wouldn't give us any place in the press box of course we were out on a couple of planks and freezing well you look over to the media guys and they're all they're drinking coffee and so forth and we had one in seeing happen a my voice went to detroit game is on the detroit was playing somebody and their audio came on are picture show fans were pretty pretty pretty upset about that but it was always excuse was from telephone service and everything was well it's west of chicago west of denver or something like that because audio was you know the guys on television that were more concerned with of course the picture so they wouldn't testy audio until it was almost too late so we had a lot of crazy things happen but in chicago if i could tell you one story jimmy johnson tiger johnson a great center for the forty niners were made on put on the staff in his first first game as an assistant coach was wrigley field and george alice head referee bills downs who actually did he a tv weekly a recap of the better games and his wife would be sitting miss this is this is alice up in the squad so the the the players were just a a just flabbergasted then they were always always worrying about whether you're gonna do so the ref at the end of one quarter move there's one place on the fifty two other place in the fifty one of the players said he's he's screwing us and so tiger johnson went out there to the rest and and really from off the guy called the cops and kick don't johnson on ruby field those were the days pretty sure again bob bounces joined sportscaster and former voice of the san francisco forty niners a or any all american conference and then the national football league you were the one that broke the news to why eight seattle that he had been traded to new york were you not the worst trait ever made in the national football league they traded why he was wanted to get rid of tidwell because he felt that he was sacked too many times but he did throw an interception so held onto the ball too long so he wanted to bring in a new system they shotgun formation so he got rid of why you and i told lander wake them up and tell he was being traded and we had a show on kcbs and he said well i don't wanna go to new york you know my wife woman like that and i said i wish i had recorder this said why you go to new york you're ready to take over as their number one quarterback and you'll get make more money off the field and you do on the field and so he went back there and he was a very big success and one is a hall of famer athletic but he was self motivated in so dedicated the longest day i've ever spent in that kitchen was the day of the nfl draft he didn't go to the third round tell me more about it well he had been hurt john last game in dating oregon state he ran the ball and broke his ankle or something and 'em anyway so that injury and influence some people a so we sat around in the kitchen and heard of all the draft you always hope but you wouldn't go to the chicago bears who are pretty cheap so it wasn't ideal result because the chargers of got among the third round and they're number one pick never even made the nfl so dan which town with a guy who threw the ball a lot and don corio l and bill walsh was his first quarterback coach they had coaches down there who were had nothing to do with quarterbacks y'all fence and finally bill walsh came from cincinnati and work with them worked on his feet says keep those feet moving keep her balance and non korea of course was a tremendous offensive coach they didn't have much of a defense so down with throw up all those touchdowns and yardage and so forth and so it'd be one little story at white they get white from california was his favorite friend as a guard and down used his if he wasn't fact he he would take the players out dinner if he was in fact he paid for if he was sacked they individual pay for their own end as a fourth down against rather the certain long against the raiders at san diego they needed they were behind by three points and then in the calendar says we gotta do this now an egg white instead of saying one one for the gipper he said sink pasta sink pasta he liked those dinners and they eventually won the game we have about thirty seconds left but a lot of ups and downs but it was great and i still love watching the forty niners and the new york the san francisco giants and congratulations to you and you're you're showing what you've done it with your career to well i will just point out to people that that early in my career as a youngster i came through san francisco and bob thousands one of the kindest people to tell me a little bit about the market and also share his insights on broadcasting and he's done that with many other young broadcasters says well bob i wanna thank you very much you are welcome here anytime take care of my friend okay ron thank you bob fouts with us again sports caster former voice of the san francisco forty niners he also called the warrior games when they were the san francisco warriors we continue across the country and around the world with you on america's sports talk show engine business owners now is the perfect time to start saving money you're cable tv build your 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eventually had to be amputated so he'll be here to talk about his life story and then steve sax he had a problem that was an interesting problem and it's happened to a couple of other players over the years but he had a problem as an infielder throwing the first base a is inexplicable a no reason why wasn't injured in anything but a very interesting story in steve will join us as well and then exports by nine and then if you're into wrestling we've got dusty rhodes a witness on wednesday baseball talk on wednesday as well with herald the rentals and then craig walsh is the son of bill walsh and he has written a wonderful book about his late father the former forty niner coach and then i see beta pinson who passed away but one of the truly great hitters in baseball will join us that will be coming up on thursday along with phil sharon ron swoboda so we try to give you a pretty good reason to join us here on sports byline let me add my congratulations to the usa women's national soccer 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again here on sports byline he's been with me before because he's written some other outstanding books he's regular contributor to the new yorker andy atlantic and his work has also been seen on bison in sports illustrated and he is co authored another book this time with his wife a book called war in the ring joe louis max schmeling the fight between america and hitler john you've written this book with you're y y a collaborative effort on this subject 'em she and i write about sports a lot you know we we we work together on those two but what made this one different is that it was the first time we worked for young adults audience ants wheezy my my co writer and my wife had experience with the story because she wrote c h b o documentary pod joe louis it's america's hero betrayed so we were familiar with the story and 'em are agents were speaking with mcmillan and we then we sat the they thought it would be a good idea for a book we sat down and started talking about it and said you know young adults could learn a lot to this story you know you have the excitement of course of the louis schmeling rivalry which is really exciting of those two great fights but it also peak since world war two it looks at hitler it looks anti semitism it has racism here in america and the jim crow laws it's a great way to look at all of those social issues but through the excitement of sporting events do you think young kids today because their oriented toured the internet and social media platforms are going to really be interested in something like this this has value i agree but i'm a little older so i appreciate it i just wonder whether young people can well you know i certainly hope so i think you're right the internet is a it is such a fast moving medium that it's tough to keep up with it but i have to tell you when you're writing about these a the schmeling smelling and the louis fights boy the pace of this book the pace of the story it's not us it's just it's such an exciting story and you look at 'em the fights themselves and a the value they had six society you know we ever langston hughes and they're talking about what it was like to see joe louis champion maya angelou talking about what it meant a black champion untapped joe louis finding schmeling at that time and what it meant that race i think that i think you leaders today if they don't give it a chance of doing themselves at the service but i think they're going to like it i think it really moves and i think it's exciting there's one line here that i think kansas sums it up america's black boxing champion hitler's favorite athlete in a world war set the scene for me for this story well look you got to boxers here they both are carrying incredible projections from their own country you know a joe louis in when he was fine when he first came up a white america didn't want him to be a champ they didn't want a black champion jack johnson at the beginning at the turn of the century they had that was a bad experience for them he was a a willie flaunting in their face a that he was a black man who is champion is too outspoken for them to except you know don't forget plessey versus ferguson separate but equal law where a a african americans would have equal privileges that's that's why it's of course they would never equal they but they were separate was eighteen ninety six and now wearing jim crow and you have jack johnson come along they didn't like that so now joe louis is rising up the ranks they don't want a black champion when he lost his schmeling that first fight a congress stop senators from the south where lewis was from were actually dancing in rejoicing that'd be american had lost congress rejoicing the american had lost that gives you an idea of what where we were right in jim crow america in the thirties of course now the war world war two starts coming reports of hitler start coming and now joe louis is gonna fight mac schmeling and he's german and on his back america and the world puts the label of nazi so now you have a nazi fighting a black champion in america now is looking at lewis going oh well now we want you to win now you're a guy now you the american so you have louis carrying a b american a projection of american pride going into that and then find not not see sentiments andy schmeling who hitler's looking at and he's claiming him as darien ideal he's terrific nobody can beat in the area and raise let alone a black man and this is all coming together for this one fight white on white before world war two right before america's involvement in world war two so i mean the deep deep the social ramifications of this particular fight happening at that time between the black american german x champion is extrordinary piece it's it's a perfect storm all those pieces coming together at one time the thing that i found interesting was the commonality between the two joe louis was born on in alabama cotton badge and raised in detroit ghetto ensure mailing grow up in poverty in hamburg germany i found that fascinating hounded modem well you know many boxers come from a you know from top backgrounds but those two guys that virtually the same time in their own countries and they're both very very hungry right and they both want should they both wanted championship you know in in the mid twentieth century in a d t world boxing heavyweight way championship that that title that stature was unbelievable this was before these fragmenting of the title and all the different on a suit titles in the water down in the latter part of the twentieth century tree been in the middle of the twentieth century this is iconic so they're both really hungry and they have the five day the first louis comes in is undefeated twentyfour and how he fights schmeling he loses it so now he's twenty four and one as turn time goes by he gets the championship and they have their second fight now the only guys he's thirty five in one the only person he's lost to his schmeling so he wants to what they knew that loss in prove that he's that he's worthy of that title schmeling it's coming in he's from that hungry backgrounds he wants to win the title he had had earlier he's older he wants to win back and you know as as it happens louis wins that that the big fight and thirty eighty one is a big but the two of them always had a connection even later in life they were friendly you know lewis is on this is your life if you remember that show that which not only show doc schmeling shut up with a lot of fundraisers prince louis when he fell on hard times later in his life so those two had a connection they had a connection early on they didn't know each other they have that connection in the ring and then later on in life that were always connected to i know you're saying the battles wage between joe and mac still resonate today how so well you know these these these feeling of m be a international politics taking place in the ring and then people going back and looking in studying world war two and looking at that fight and how joe louis really opens the door for black champions you know i'll leave later in his life said that he thought the joe louis wasn't uncle tom and it and then after we set it he apologized and i think the younger people 'em when when i say younger i mean people who came up under these ali iraq looked at ali as you know that's the way he stands up to society louis which to quiet louis really did everything never got a chance he would've never gotten in the ring if he had had 'em ali lee is a blanket doshi out i mean it worked for i'll leave it wasn't gonna work at that time so when you look at the ramifications of joe louis being champion and joe louis opening the door and what he did for his race the sport for future champions that still resonates today that's where it's still carries today we have about ninety seconds left what do you want people to take away from the war in the ring well i think what i want people to you know there's a lot in but i think that when give it an equal playing field schmeling was supposed to be the yacht arian soup superior being right any lost to louis louis wasn't supposed to be able to be a champion because he was a black man he shouldn't have been able quote shouldn't have been able to beat a white men in the ring i think the take away is on and even playing field everybody's equal so you know you strip away all of v a the shenanigans and when it comes down to to one person against each other and anything in life it's completely equal you know one of the things i'm interested in sent you a co authored this book and i know you've done it with your wife before and other books but are you both happy when it came out because the husband and wife tend a look at things a little bit differently you know it's so funny people ask us a lot about working together you know by the way she's a red sox fan i mean yankee fan amazing that we get along get along so we are we are both happy with the way it came out we work she she does the majority of the research i do the majority of the writing but we both kind of do everything but the one thing where we really overlap is on telling the story and we worked together roll up our sleeves how are we gonna tell this story how's the book gonna be structured what's important to include what do we not going to include so we're both very happy with the way the story has been told in about thirty seconds is boxing myth missing stories like this well you know i think that they i think it is and i think the reason why is because it in the thirties and in the mid twentieth century mainstream with the headlines so it's hard to get the kind of on a boxing match to resonate today the way it did back then because it was so widespread talking about you know filling state they old yankee stadium he got eighty thousand people there you know eighty million people listening on the radio i mean the reach of a fight like 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athletic town where you know every a sport is very very competitive or the football basketball baseball the track you know i got to start my career far is playing in the fourth grade and i remember there's and myself and another young man by the name of bill pennington we were way bigger than the other guys in the coach had his skull one oh one one day and they didn't come back that year so you know i had the advantage jeff property being a little bit more mature and bigger than some other guys one of the things that we always hear about small towns in america no matter where they are as if they play a competitive football that on friday or saturday night at something very very special we certainly have heard a lot about what it's like down in the state of texas taking back the oklahoma and where you played high school football well same thing matter of fact you know the stadium built by halliburton back pmt south forty in that stadium still being used at that i mean he lives in columbus a back then it lives in norman stadium so you know football is there the energy you know in state of texas and oklahoma louisiana mississippi shelves paul you know every little town it's gonna have football team in you travel back then as you travel just like thirty or forty miles to go play another when you were a teenager you moved around a little bit you moved biloxi mississippi tell me about that experience 'cause what were you on a chicken farm did you say we had a chicken farm where you had fifty five hundred billion in ann lewis supplied the eggs up and down the coast and then on the pacific coast but i couldn't tell you that i learned very quick raising chickens and having the chicken carman's freshly claiming that the chicken farms in the summer a that that's one job i'm not going back to tell me about the first time you ever met or saw bear bryant because you went onto play you're college football at the university of alabama a i was had was fortunate because i had that can be recruited by you know oklahoma man i was going to oklahoma because growing up as a little kid oklahoma's bush had their line of forty eight games and but you know coach bryant in alabama that's when they were winning the national championship nineteen sixty one being recruited by alabama and georgia tech can remember coach bryant came down with one of his assistants and they were looking at bullock see as a possible practice site before the sugar bowl and so he came over a coach while while high school coach to man another player inland patterson over to visit you know at the stadium talk to me for an hour never asked me to come just talked about the players talk about alabama and i felt very comfortable call in show and ended up going to alabama the one thing i remember doing play by play i was doing the university of washington we went down to a alabama the play the crypts inside and i'll never forget it in the warm ups they had the players from the fifty yard line all the way to be in the back of the end zone they had that many players in uniform football at that particular time i even did i i even made the comment jackie they could do another season a mash with all the players that they they heard on the field against the university why she did that day but they really had that type of depth and embarrassed stocking on the you know walking on the sidelines and everything there wasn't are about alabama football what was that coach bryant there's no question then you know there's a lot of programs out there that you know are they from leaving a few mitch mentioned notre dame there's only a few coaches that you mentioned with notre dame michigan there's only a few coaches southern cal there's only a few coaches john mckay at that alabama you know there's basically three coaches coach coach bryant coach stalin then nick say but so you don't even in certainly coach bryant yeah he was a he was a big man six four two hundred and fifty pounds a very physical but yet he was very very compassionate and there's one thing coach bryant and maybe that's the you know the coaches coach foreign understood was it's not athlete gets the slider in coach bryant and not playing man and he always put in the players in a better position to be successful now it wasn't easy there were sixty seven a caveman that crash and seven others washing out of sixty seven between nineteen sixty two and sixty five you were on the team he played full back in line back and you help the crimson tide win a couple of national championship games what what's his philosophy playing off offensive football and defensive football back then you played both ways and and then my senior year it got where you could play single a platoon but he played both ways and he was always going to one out condition to out says a clearly the plate you and but he'd winning and quite frankly he just made players a lot better a yeah i've always said coach bryant took an average player it made even better than a good player in meeting a great player now we did not have a whole lot of great great players now we did have some joe nemeth can you stay but you know they they really roar jordan they were not average player they both had kind of the same a personalities they were outside the box if you know what i'm talking talking about well it's kind of like today you know you look at coaches around that that recruited five star players great great players but they can't man is you're handle and but that's one thing coach bryant could do you know both of whom he disciplined very very well and hard did matter of fact you may shed a out of this the sugar bowl his senior year a same thing with kenny kenny was dismissed from the team for a while but coach bryant a could handle in make those guys do things that they didn't wanna do but yet also they with accomplish things they never thought they could accomplish we've got about ninety seconds before we after a break here but it was a kind of interesting time in this country in particularly in the south and it was shortly after i think you left the team that alabama got his first african american ballplayers an end from people that i've talked to that new bear bryant he was somebody that was certainly not only sympathetic but understanding about the changes that had did take place in this country he was before his time almost in a sense in alabama was he not absolutely we we had a walk on a player in nineteen in the spring of nineteen sixty six so at one later in years coach bryant a invited day african american player to walk on in the spring now he did make the team but he wished that was the first time in the south it wasn't later but later he recruited players can he also did a great job of communicating with the players of what their responsibilities roles and into into our players you know we played nebraska one year industry in the orange bowl and that was the first time that alabama and during that period at played a team which west african american players so jackie jarrow is joined this jackie playing his college football under bear bryant and also helped the crimson tide win a couple of national championships and then he'd be game in his own right it outstanding coach himself will talk about that as we continue across the country and around the world with you on sports sports by la five recently discovered the powerful health benefits of cbd oil i've been using new leaf natural cbd oil for some time now and i love it cbd oil is non intoxicating would make which makes it ideal for people like me i want the health benefits of cannabinoid but i don't smoke weed i never will smoke weed that mind altering affects i do not need cbd is nontoxic has potent pain relieving in his aunts high inflammatory whether it's properties is well and that's why the brand i trust the most is new leaf naturals new leaf natural says the highest quality cbd oil on the market a hundred percent organic 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you get that opportunity specially you're young and it really exciting just like quarterback quarterback sure good until they know but they're not saying i think galls young coaches come here she is you're good details like no other and because of the background coach bryant has been a major frank balls great coach coach john majors in either a they're building around three different great coaches at all but as a combination of all you know one of the ways you could this coach you know you bring up an interesting point do you have coach bryant you have frank royals and then you have also johnny majors what was the commonality that they all had because they all had success the communication skills you know cooks majors i've always said is probably the best best pr guy head coach at cnn the business coach bryant was one that could get more out of this players in demand more alba's players you know we didn't always like coach but no when you really look at it all those years we had and then and then all of a sudden it turns into respect and love where we ended up respecting the loving can understand what he did and there's i would say he had more impact on young coaches than any others game coach falls lords outstanding businessmen i mean he was he was really really sound a man he let his coaches but all three and one thing where they knew the but they also look great coaches when you take a look at these players that you coach when you were a head coach in even when you were in assistant as well the motivational factor is always very important and then i'm just wondering has that changed a great deal jackie today because athletes that are playing college football are bombarded bombarded with so many inputs such as social media and everything but really were you able to get the players the focus strictly on football and what you want them to do a weird head coaches are not around their fires is much as they should be paid coaches you know i've always made the statement to all these young coaches coming up don't recoup the athlete recoup the person if you don't know the person you'll never know how they're using hand because of the lack of contact time you know head coaches really do not ever get to know the players now there's a feed you know that's when most coaches fail in play all end this when they don't know the player you know great story which told me about a bart starr when he went to green bay and coach lombardia was all over bart star in practice in in bart starr goes to coach lombardi and says coach you know you're asking me the quarterback pure leader a you know you don't have to yell at me in practice from that point all he never said a word to bark practice so the the problem or seeing so much today is you know the coaches and scratch their head coaches because of the demands on the times they did not get to spend the time the quality time necessary to get the court tell me about the first time you saw dan marino breaking down for me what did you see in him as a quarterback a man playing the kids i mean it was amazing filmed in early in his career is freshman year and a wet penalize the thing on my ass danny danny who taught you how to throw the football he said my dad i said well what do you tell yeah he said the ball goes up the now which is very simple but that's that's basically all you need to tell a young kid the ball goes up and now you're not throwing motion and that stuck with thing because he's always said that over and over that he made it a point never change stolen most i remember i was at stanford doing the play by play when john elway came in as a quarterback quarterback and it's funny when you said about his dad he said the same thing to me because his dad of course was jack elway who is a coach's well and he made it very simple and then i ask bill walsh a little bit later on i said what do you look for in quarterbacks he said i look for two things he said one i look at the foot worker the quarterback how he handles his footwork and gets back into the pocket and second i look at his head meaning i wanna see how quickly he could swivel it to be able to find a primary secondary secondary or even a third a reliever if he's looking for and those seem so basic but really it see essence of success of being morally going and watch continues stay in oakland and after practice kennedy would go in get on us feedback then all the players will be coming back in the locker room in just stopping all how quick his hands were owned the speed that men danny marino you used to have a board where he'd come in after practice in jump rope for his footwork know danny was not a four five guy but he had enough court since being labeled the ship them in had enough field to anything that you know you're when you were not gonna shacking very easy let's move onto a texas a and m university of texas now you lost your first two but you won the next five talk to me a little bit about that rivalry marie between those two schools and what that that game on thanksgiving weekend was like oh it was huge thing because it's the bragging rights and the bragging rights at the state of texas the current state of texas city is pretty big band deal you had to school that had a great history back all the way back when they were founded and they all go take called they're funded goes team both of them but it's called the university of texas actually at one time call their hand in hand will be coming under their system something that they built up a pin down there in both schools are usually in the top twelve on in the so that rivalry is not only owned appeal the table where else second year we played on we jumped out of hand up and thirteen team then then they came back in one and at the end of the game they were male sam their normal version pu ragged in i believe picker equipment manager trainer asking what are they saying believe he said core aggies and i sit there like that to last family here that i have to ask you about something i did not know and i did not know you started the tradition of the twelfth man kickoff team tell me how that came about well you know the bonfire was a big game and you know everybody salt you built the bond tirade outhouse a tell before midnight she lost stay the new one but what it really was was the whole state anybody got involved in one michigan man that was building in the crowd the building and above all of a sudden multiple reports stack wiring and so i kept coming back i came back one night and they had a little bonfire about thirty yards from the stack in the stack is a fine stack team roughly fifty five to sixty feet call so five thousand trees so you can kind of conventional big it is anyway they put like a plant seventeen in seventeen hundred seventeen thousand gallons of diesel fuel to the burning but i came back they had a little bonfire they had drawn before stack that's forty feet a all of a sudden they stop slide down the stack and renault bend over the first one in got four slats or you got three stretch that's what the accident muller needs should take your best shot so the the when you know and i'm thinking there's forty thousand students don't miss campus i couldn't find on lebanon guys that have no regard for the body a good athlete but couldn't cover chemicals in the next morning when i told her staff you know rc here that coach i think to sell off that stack because you can't can't work but it did then they would provide years when i was there they were in the top five in the country in two years they lead the nation kickoff coverage we only have two minutes left and i wanna talk about your last stop and you're coaching career and after three years away from the game you took the job at mississippi state university in correct me if you think i'm wrong about this when i saw they announcement i really thought because you turn that program around you did that because you wanna prove something to yourselves that you you had the capability of taking a program that had been downtrodden and really turning it around in my correct in that observation jackie well that would want is really only a year and a half but yeah you're right you know a weapon mississippi state growing up in in in the state of mississippi on the coast move mississippi state i didn't have to go there and look at the facility charlie but you know the hardest game that we had almost every year at alabama's mississippi state you know we we would would win but are bodies would be bruce now they were very tough physical man i knew the cheap to recoup enough in well enough to be able to build problem there now these mississippi state alabama no that same thing you look in the pac ten is you know arizona state southern cal that doesn't mean you can't win shoot you can't win in buddy charter but you know it began at mississippi state had an opportunity to turn the program around hoard they became you know in relevant in the top fifteen you no winning the west going to play tennessee in anesthesia stripes had been better we would have beaten tennessee and they would not have won the national championship but i've always said to everybody when they complain claiming a broader fish you're not good enough strive you're not gonna win anyway that is a great great say jackie i wanna thank you you're time and sharing your life and also year career with us it it was outstanding i always enjoyed watching watching your games and occasionally at a chance to broadcast a couple of minutes will take care of my friend you're welcome back anytime on sports byline thank you very much and honor jackie share with us again former head coach in washington state also pit and of course he had dan marino and developed into a hall of fame player also coached at texas am at mississippi state we continue with more of you at america's sports talk show attention business owners now is the perfect time to start saving money on 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shadow of his father who was a pretty good boxer himself but his career was cut short by injuries that he sustained in world war to end his father's nickname was also boom boom andrei val then to win a title one national gory for his father and there was one particular match that was really important in his career it came on may eighth nineteen eighty to challenge the new world boxing association lightweight champion arturo free as an even though he was caught in the fight ray came back with a vengeance and after many unanswered blows unfree as the referee stop the fight manzini wisdom finally world world champion and he had a lot of celebrity attention around him frank sinatra fonda all over emmons sylvester stallone produced his life story as a movie of the week but there was a dark spot in his career and it came on november the thirteenth nineteen eighty two in a brutal battle at caesar's palace in las vegas mansi these obscure currying challenger was duck who kim and he went down in the fourteenth round but he never regained consciousness and then three months later kim's despondent mother took her own life five over the agony of losing her son and the desk would haunt ray and ruining his carefully crafted image suddenly the transforming boxing's all american boy indoor pariah so we will talk to him not only about the early success that he had the championship happy a chip betty one but also this very troubling fight that he had one time as well be sure to check out their award winning sports byline usa website it's sports byline dot com don't forget you can always listen to us online just go the home page upper right hand corner there's the listen live button go ahead and punch it in were right there with you we continue across the country and around the world ray manzini next for you on sports byline hey guys losing your hair sucks and i should know i've lost mine and sue at a free guys will experience hair loss by the time they're thirty five or might be too 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streets 'em if it's a wonderful life young someone's a wonderful place to grow up i wanna i wanna grow up any other place and of course in the wintertime you noticed said rides a snowball fights all that all that stuff everything about youngstown was and it just it just you know and then of course you know the second biggest still producing city in the world next pittsburgh and so the men are town you know let in my neighborhood specifically where you know they're all nine to five guys you know they were they were grinders and i mean that in the best possible way they were hard working men the best type of people i know and and they go to work in and grind it out in couldn't make a good living and you could you could put her kids through college you could put you kids have a nice home in a car in the driveway it was a good life you know boxing for a lot of kids that come from urban area is way out that area but i get the sense it was not that way for you that it was kind of part of a life experience because you're father am i correct in that assumption absolutely yes i fought for different reasons and you're right it wasn't economic a suppression it was it was in the need for me to you know the writer more critical says the best he says he thinks that you know in retrospect you might be right that fought to develop a to a villa date my father or to to rescue my father so to speak because all i heard about growing up hot humid though he should have been could have been would have been real champion if you had up to fight for the title and even though i sanford titled february forty four i mean got drafted in january forty four hours heard about it he already beat the same in godfather's same ain't got no not that if i won the fight which got up and the rematch so everybody told me he would have been the world champion in our safe my father would at least had the opportunity to fight for it and i believe he would want it there have been no reason for me the fight yeah this is my father and son book it's about your dad whose name was boom boom as well tell me a little bit about him as you were a kid growing up what you realized about you're dead did you have a chance never watching five when you were young no well first of all no he will retire long before i was born a my father retirement to forty seventy mary my mother nineteen forty eight my sister is born in november forty eight i was born in nineteen sixty one but ours heard about the stories so who fought and he you know he's that bug you know ten tell the story you tell the story and you should tell their stories and i felt like i was there and i just think down and that's you know be part of the book high state down into my cellar grabbed his scrapbook which my sacred is mike my holy grail and they redid the the articles and look at the pictures in one particular picture after friday would if a billion mark what a who's a top rick real contender and he beat him is i wish such one both sides were swollen when we won't shut a both absurd bloodied it ruse you know and he's gotta tell over his head and he won the fight me he was beautiful and that pitcher to me was so peter everything i wanna be what would they drove him to boxing well my father grew up in a depression you know my my father grew up but as a young age buffalo's born nineteen nineteen in any young age his uncle uncle paul which they call it football which which again it's in the book it's it's a you know be part of the book 'em you're sticking my and and and you know in the streets and i got the time at the kids depression eric time 'em is almost like the lack of a better word a human cuts citing because they say my kid could kick you kids but no my kids but now we joined the nafta kids you'll find it opt in my father my his uncle paul would put him in there and he'd be kids eight then he'd be older kids he was fake news ten years old vikings twelve fourteen fifteen sixteen years old and beating and so it became a team of heck of a father and a great reputation on street in very very day very famous stories next time i thought when he was growing up you know one of those things and i find it yeah one of the things i find interesting is that you're dead grew up at a time when boxing was eight very big sports in this country i would have almost call it the golden age of boxing what were some of the fighters that he really kind of looked up to that he that he really believed in and liked the way they stepped in conducting themselves in the ring my father's all time idol on that one was tony cans and airy turning to the news the lightweight champ a and you know and became a you know literally champ and then eighteen and nineteen twenties and thirties my father knew his career as anybody in my fault that she got chance to meet him in new york when he went distilled in him and he loved kanzi and he's telling me stories kanzi he also loves him armstrong he loved singing a song that you know and i know the greatest fighter but my father's all time favorite is that the greatest say wait i mean it's all sort of getting there but he's got the greatest heavyweight is joe louis he said well not only is it a fighter man he loved joe louis and he thought he was the greatest so my father had this euros to end up as you said you can't be glue he fought at a time when there's only three major sports didn't stand the twenties and thirties and forties really really three major sports official boxing professional baseball in horse racing sports tell everybody why he did not get the opportunity to win the lightweight champion why he was drafted in january of nineteen forty four and he signed the fight for the title february forty four and he said to the army i wanna defend my country i just want the opportunity to fight for the title and he said i'll give all my money to the army relief fund which at that time who's crying for money and he's i'll give all my money it's army report and he said we don't want you money we want you now and consequently never got you all you got suffers a six week reprieve train and fight for the title before he went in and he denied him so he went in and he was so depressed that my father volunteered for the front line now at the front line in front of the denver treatment it's just you and the enemy ain't nobody in between and he was in the field of battle for almost four months and then he got hit with a motor show november of nineteen forty four in mets federal mets which is in france and that's been the better off the ball is the most destructive warning european theater of operations so a he was left for dead invicta essentially one of his comrades kerry demoss and they said you'll never lift 'cause he lost so much blood and he got through that they said well certainly you'll never walk is too much shrapnel never spent especially in your spine and he got through that and then he said certainly i'll never fight again but eventually came back the fight you put shift understand he went in the number one lightweight contender thirty five pounds and came out of middleweight honored and sixty pounds did he ever get angry about what had happened to him that he was kinda got down in the prime of his sport you know it's funny you say that there's no he never thought he'd never talk angry about what because you you said he's proud to serve his country once in a while i didn't see a raymond raymond seats there are some times i catch him like in a moment as a devil it's a matter in a raymond out of out of won the title out one that chat title i beat champion i should've been champion in those times he did talk about it but i could see how you thought about it and how it all goes well i guess you could say eight adam you know but he never talked angry about serving this country or or just you know being in army love eight dollars honorable thing is the right thing then do it just wanted opportunity for the title did you ever feel any pressure to go into boxing because of the fact that he did not get a chance to accomplish what he did you naturally gravitate toward boxing right oh no natural no i never push advancing in fact my father tried talked me out of it in the worst way he's never won the fight he told me raymond it's a lonely life it's a painful life you sacrifice your family you you're social life you've sacrificed everything for the one goal he said raymond i had a fight of his depression you don't have to fight and so you have so many other opportunities and that's the time the athletic as well academic scholarship to go to college had a professional baseball offer at other opportunities and he wanted me to pursue in a but i said no no i wouldn't be a fighter for you in retrospect i could see as a father i understand that now what he felt when you want it for me and so i'm very blessed very fortunate that i had that single mindedness and that she dream we've got about thirty five seconds before we have to break ray but you said i wanna fight for you and you know that puts a lot of internal pressure on somebody when they do with somebody else were you aware of that then i don't think i looked at yeah i don't know if i wasn't aware of it i just wanna the form so bad that i don't know if if the pressure or is it was my driving force my motivation you know what i mean i mean there's you know there's there's two sides of the coin you know and that for me it was my motivation is my inspiration is everything the reason i was doing what i wanna do i moved to new york when i was eighteen because he did and i wanna do it the right way like he did ray boom manzini is with us again i wanna urge you to check out this book it's an excellent reid were gonna make it a selection of the month on the sports byline usa book corner it's called the good son the life of re boom boom manzini and when we come back on the other side i'm gonna talk ray a little bit about here's how i gravitated to 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nine one for your free case evaluation that's eight hundred five nine three seven four nine one eight hundred five nine three seven four nine one call now this is america's sports talk show sports byline usa here's ron bar right but but manzini is with us on sports byline were talking about the book about his life it's called the good son the life of re boom boom manzini his father of course also called boom boom manzini was a fighter but he didn't get the chance to fight for the lightweight championship because of his injury he suffered while in world war two and were talking a little bit about you moving on in boxing tell me about the first time you've got into the ring and what it was like for you ready for the first time i i thought was a us april nineteen seventy six six as a freshman in high school and i thought you know i'll just heard about the junior olympics and i know the head and around the area and i found out there was a regional tournament in cleveland so i asked my father fucking you know enter the tournament and he gave me is is okay so trailers local trainer ed sullivan it's eddie solos as a trainer youngstown is probably the best trainer and you know he's a good friend of my father's so i want the eddie sullivan jim and he trained me in a first those april nineteen seventy six in cleveland ohio and i a i won by a big knock out in the first round three seven seconds 'cause you know i was a strong guy aggressive so i come running out in other nfl owners of south park that kind of a natural life tanner soft on everything i do except to things that when i played baseball and then i would fight right handed but after my six temperature fight converted for my first exposure fights and funded as a softball and that came out in the industry left hand her dominant jumped on some punches in bunches and went down and a you know they stopped the fight so a that was the first time i entered the ring and it was three no feeling in the world from that time in my career when you're when you're standing over guys down establishment in world you know as well as i do ray that there is a difference between being a fighter and being a boxer you know what i'm talking about about an i'm just wondering as you progressed in in your career when did you crossover wendy you think you became a box rather than just a fighter in the ring well first of all i mean people would say oh the box and this and that and you you you made mistakes i'm glad you did young guys who boxing got great skills you know sugar ray robinson sugar ray leonard great boxing skills and they could all were also hurt you and then those guys were good punchers like roberto duran could also box you know margaret or marvin hagler timers box real good punches but they could box also so you know you gotta use whatever whatever you're straight this and for me i was aggressive fighter all strong a doing it too many stronger language the meat at the end in a in a pretty good in also like to see may miss once in a while see that's important to make miss once in a while you know i am so so that's the thing i mean for me i tell people i wasn't puncher yeah i was a fighter because a lot of guys get in there and they they think it's it's it's it is in art okay right isn't art form but the bottom line is you have an obligation to the fans getting the best possible in my my style very fan friendly and that's what i think you know it's important to give the people who showed the paper the paper shows you you you all the time so a lot of guys were then get in there and they just move around a box they're not giving the show they should and never make that distinction that's something that you did that you did you know right also there's a lot of boxes that are in clubs around the country and they have the dream just like any happily does the play professional football baseball basketball ball but in your case this was boxing but you and i both know the reality of fighting in that is there's a lot that comes into play you have no control over whether it's managers or whether it's the promoters in everything tell me about the people that were instrumental in your life along along the way that allowed you to get that that that lightweight championship when my father told me since those little boy you you just hit on the head see raven it takes to make it as a fighter that breaks in connections he said you you gotta get the right breaks you could have direct connections and as i went through is i started climbing so true i saw i saw some of the best fighters in the gyms in new york ellie starving and these guys you said this guy should be a world champion they could they have the right connections there manager denied the jews the get the right shot so he'd never never got the opportunity or no or if they did it with later in their career when they were really you know pastor way past their prime it's important half the people the move you along in amateurs i had ed sullivan at sullivan i had a guy like a mole harvey show is called a a guys you know jimmy saunders these guys help move my career long and then when i turned pro of course not only trainer murphy griffis in my manager was david wolfe dave wolf by far the best manager be protected me in the sense he fought hard for me negotiation to the point where networks that networks you say we love the kid can't stand wolf but we love it but he knew what he had in bobby remove the smartest anybody i ever met was would would go to until they will they will match bob arum is far as a blitz is you know as a as a you know in in just holly was dave loves me any watch out for you want the best for me and i always left for that you know what fighters and get the best opportunity free fighter when the bell rings it's up to him but you gotta make sure it's a level playing field in the best opportunity was there and fight in the early part of your career that was kind of a launching fight you you know when all of a sudden around the country the media and also a people around back and said hey wait a minute this kid is something especially is not a kid that just comes out of youngstown ohio on okay he's good he punches hardee's past and all of those things this is a guy that has got the got what it takes well yeah absolutely there forever those fights knocking guys out early a metro guys i wasn't supposed to i was knocking out already good punter and i said i jump on so i wasn't good guys could recognize it as i climbing one fights already on you guys date the best fighters they're tipping stones but as wyking guys already so funny my manager so that she could fight it took me las vegas in july of nineteen eighty and i thought the silver slipper which has weekly shows at the time nfl but first we gotta find a guy from ballet leon smith and i'm not talking about one run and someone manager said no no we we gotta we gotta so next week next week on the show again he said well we gotta test you see brought the kid from l eight mexican kim having hymie nava who fight everybody everybody anybody and nobody ever knocked him out i wouldn't be the first and not come on in my message don't worry about this glut murphy griffith said there's lots of rain do what you got to be catching me kitchen and all might not come up the fourth one i come up and drop them he bumped up and he smiled at me as oh man does this is a good guy after that i just thought he i was hitting the same shot said he wasn't moving is that let me be the easiest way that'd be the maternal decision but that fight there was a book will show that go ten heart rounds an upbeat a top top back a good opponent who fought the top guys it was never not stopped and then the next fight after that in my in my backyard now more in ohio which is next in youngstown i finally got another guy named johnny summarize another guy who's never knocked out or stopped and i dropped him and what it says on decision because certain guys you a real deal under not quite the knockout certain guys you just gotta be the easiest way and that's what i did you know there was another thing about you is that you were always very media savvy and you already talked about the you kind of interacting with the public and usually a lot of boxers an fighters particularly in the early part of their career they just do what they're told but you you know you knew that if you were going to sell you're gonna sell boxing is well is rate manzini the personality where did that come from well people over the very very savvy man in any meat very savvy you dave was a bestselling author and you know i kinda gotten a good friend of joe frazier that's how he kinda got in the in the boxing business by accident but they will it was a reporter and writer so we knew you gotta have a story behind you and i think that's one reason you is attracted to me and he saw me the national golden gloves in nineteen seventy nine in indianapolis and he said he sent murphy good down and find the best three prospects in griffith the best prospect in in the best professional prospect that ball damages and he they will eat you my second third fourth fight he set out media packets all over the country all over world so later on when i met some of these people that we knew about you from early on when they move would inundated with all you're media stuff an i mean that's that's a sharp guy you know david great foresight 'cause he believed in me and he saw that there story there and he believed in my building my talent dementia get there so you know i think that's the thing of boxing missing nowadays is i can't tell you have the fighters and i'm a fight fan i can't tell you after butters because would just been on pay per view is if the there is no stories and if the are they don't go up they don't let the audience in on him so i think that's a that's a big mistake missing with that but the game now that we don't know half the personalities in about twenty seconds we always comfortable with the media oh yeah for just one guys even when i was in school great score a lot of kids they're afraid you get up in front of thought that was easy for me it just came easy it was a natural thing i have three children to have a hard time standing in front of media one of whom he it goes and it's easy for him yeah so it's just it's just personality wise i dunno is very fortunate that the person that came easy ray boom boom manzini with a sudden when we come back on the other side will talk about a specific date may eighth nineteen eighty two it was a very important date in his career and he'll tell us why as we continue across the country and around the world would you on sports byline five recently discovered the powerful health benefits of cbd oil i've been using new leaves natural charles cbd oil for some time now and i love it cbd oil is non intoxicating would make which makes it ideal for people like me i want the health benefits 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this book because it's a very very good book it's called the good son the life of re boom boom manzini before the break i mentioned about the date may eighth nineteen eighty to tell me how that all set up the match was in las vegas and take me through that fight ray well you know my second title shot at five for the title of the year before a in october third of nineteen eighty one is alexa quayle an ugly oh one of the greatest players of all time one of my my heroes and i loved alexis but i felt i catch him at the right time were catching you know and and it sounds a little too strong maybe two young my enthusiasm and all that would catch up kitten overwhelm him in if it's a twelve round fight i win the title winning after twelve runs but that's where the true chip chip distances fifteen round two champions champions guys who've goodrich gyms of one late like there's never been a rocky marciano or even alexa goyal who beat a regional vars in the thirteenth from we've never had those champions if the if the distance wasn't fifteen which i'm an advocate to go back to that but be any any out a lot that opportunity and 'em against alexis but after a fight as i know i could be world champion i'm gonna be world champion i had to fight to fights after that in life another title shot and this time it gets are free us artur fears a a champion who came you know you gotta shot he at the last minute replays been and he got the title shot any any knocked out a champion champion the wb champion and i said and this guy took it on short notice a very aggressive strong fighter and from l eight and i you know one of the guys you wanna root for i mean i liked are free to his dad is a tremendous loved the guy but when when opportunity came about i said this to me it was my last opportunity you know i never thought i'd get another one after lost a great i never thought i'd get another opportunity but when they came up i said i'm gonna make the best of this i'm not gonna lose at this time in philadelphia stronger our fight against are free is using chris a fighter strong guy and you know the first round i jumped on him and you know he stood right toto would mean won't be caught me with a left took on the chin and knock you back in the ropes and he jumped on median you know amazon amazon from right then and now it's only about fifteen seconds and around so to this day they still call one of the greatest first round in history boxing which i'm very proud of that but eventually caught art catching a hook and i dropped dropped him he got up and i jumped on him and i just kept throwing punches in bunches and and finally i had on the ropes and he was helpless and richard richard green jumped in and saved and so a greatest day of my professional life critics in my life other than my children born in my life ray manzini is or lightweight champion on may eighth nineteen eighty two and then a really wonder what kind of wild on you i mean everybody jumped on the bandwagon everybody wanna have a part of re manzini in you know i've been around other champion boxers and i don't know how they do it i remember when i covered the fight with mohammed ali down in san diego that's the one when ken norton brad is yard continued fighting and i'll never forget what it was like behind hind the scenes with everybody not knowing how to deal with a guy that you know is a great fighter and had been hurt for the first time what was it like for you to have people like frank sinatra fawning over you songs written up for you in everything that could be kind mind blown it can be it can be in those wonderful but i tell you what here's the difference i was very well a dot indoctrinated in the business of boxing my father because he was a fighter he's the same things to me is a little boy those remember yoshida me raymond always remember one day the headline state of bread lines saint people corny champion away in oakland you bum in a way out to never take the serious should take a job series don't take fame he's sick famous famous fleeting seles about ten minutes if that and i still remember these things so what i thought i knew what to expect i knew that it's bo time i knew that you know i'm gonna light for period time but when delayed delayed moves on everybody and so i didn't you know when it did it how it happens that's what people said you know when you were chip anymore i mean i bet i bet it bothers you said no no with just my time is over as you move on so that's why i was able to handle things much better than a lot of athletes in in a because that is such a wonderful father who taught me not only about life he told me about boxing life i'm always fascinated never asking other champions this question so i've got to put it to you raise a champion which is harder to become a champion or just stay a champ you know i think it's harder to stay there i think i mean when you're when you're when you're when you know say it's like a sniper you're shooting at people you're shooting at people when you're sniper 'cause you're you're on the hunt you're on the hunt but then you become the hunted when you're the hunted that's much much more difficult you're you're out there everyone knows where you're at and they're coming for you so 'em it's harder to stay there you know sometimes people wanna championship but it's i mean i wanna put on a good champion and one of the defendants improvements but you and i didn't i felt that defend the best they could at five total defense is for successful you know i had the two years straight but i had no spot fights in twenty four months that's one of the three months saga active champion to which is important so i'm proud of that plus a stellar fighting were not made for a long career so i sacrifice longevity to make my score divino make my money but also like i said i felt it was important to the fans and give them a show so that that's why wanna stay active fire i read in nineteen eighty two was certainly a bittersweet year for you you win the championship in may but then in november you take a fight in las vegas against really a an obscure currying challenger duck who kim tell me about why you took that by first of all he's the number one ranked contender in the world had a mandatory second of all i know so i had no i i did a lot of times you have mandatory and you have a you then you have you know optional defensively you could pick you know sometimes say why she's defending against the mandatory then you could pick an opponent in the top ten in every every i believe it's every nine months or a year you have at least a mentor defense so he was number one contender in the world and when they sent me a tape you should re you know like you said he is obscure not everyone knew bottom when they sent me the tape i watched the tape i watched two runs i called they will back as a dave it's gonna be a headache it's gonna be a war all right let's let's it does do it because we you know that's it i knew it opens up against a new numbers in for an you know styles make fights fighters don't make find styles make fights so what what is difficult difficult for me maybe brothers what's he may be you know or what's difficult brothers easy for me but i saw him as a fighter and this guy just kept coming throwing punches southpaw first of all coming from the wrong angles 'em you know throw punches bunches and that just said you know it just it just give me a war and you prepare for that but that's what you gotta do you prepare yourself mentally and emotionally spiritually that type of fight and i did i watch that fight i remember very vividly in the fourteenth round you send him down to the campus see never regained consciousness after that and he passed away a short time later and i i often wondered you know you're a boxer you're a guy that has played the game in a sense so you're the best judge of this could could that have been prevented in any way either through less rounds instead of fifteen rounds or had the referee stepped in maybe he didn't will wear about the beating that kim was taking in retrospect ray could that have been prevented well no no and if you if you saw the fight and you said you did then you would know until there's no wasn't like the email griffin spending could print from nineteen sixty three when immigrants adam hanging on the ropes number forty unanswered punches but it could be stuck in rupp's we're going to the toll and it wasn't a it wasn't giving my beating it was a it was a very difficult close fight it just happened to be the one punch and doctor learning immigrant who is a neurosurgeon at the at the hospital said it was the last punch it had to be 'cause there's been no way he been able to fight the way he did if it happened previous to that so it's just one of the things the fight and you know other other than outcome others in outcome everyone one from richard green the referee to to to both the fighters the corners everyone quiz himself admirably i mean it was a great fight is a wonderful event richard green did a wonderful job would you be officiated as best you can it was just for the outcome it was a great great fight in just the last punch you know the fight the first fight for the permanent outdoor theatre caesar's palace so so they made a big event event is all the glitter roddy literati they were hanging out and ringside frank sinatra you know similar result robert legs lou rawls levi neiman willie star george george brett from all over and over there and you'll see but less ron's and that's foolish because people say you know i'm talking about well that's right fifteen once from a that's right because of that fight chip chip fights went from fifteen and twelve that not true that's not true that the last fifteen won't fight with nineteen eighty six four years later you're still gonna so that's the reason why no if that i've talked and again i've talked enough neurologist and a brain surges defined that just no substantiate move at all whatsoever that proves that there's more damage in more of a a punishment attributed to the last three rounds as opposed the first twelve not i mean if that were the case then you would have to make marathons twenty miles splits twentysix because it is proven the last six months people productively said the boom muscle burned the brain matter stir fry hitting the wall so you know that's that's why why the tv decision not a boxing decision to move the twelve rounds how long did it take you to move past that and what effect it happened near career one i made my peace with a relatively early on had to me in my life i make decisions relatively quickly ross grass i can't move on me people you see people get stuck in that grief and they get stuck in the of all the a you know a self pity and they never willing to take some months and months maybe years i'm not light that i have to ross ross muzzle diggle hogle coleman porter in his late on because what you're not living that might be still relatively early on and you know i can't give exactly my time but it was you know road to make i'm a i realized my faith in god i say my prayers and now my faith can be through an would have thought those you know i told my manager keeping the fight as soon as you can have it you back in there so as far as how it affected the rest of my career i look at it as far as hard as i could other fights not guys out and then back off guys i fought as hard as they could be the difference was when i first term pro richest reasons i thought to be world champion from my father i thought to be the best champion it could be for the city of youngstown ohio hometown the be the best i could be i i did it for a cause at a passion and love for the sport after that fight through his nothing righteous about it for me there's lots of love for a lot of passion for it i did it because i just one real title what i what else we got into my life at that point and i thought i had at least owed it to myself the to try to get my security fence security and our people haven't found to be the best champion possible we only have ninety seconds left ray but i you know i always like to ask an athlete about if there's a particular moment in their career that is kind of ingrained in their memory now you talked about the the highs and the lows but i'm sure to re boom boom manzini there's something that means an awful lot to him that he'll never ever forget what is that rain water section three moments the first row winning the world title how did that what does the greatest moment of my life when degrees most my by my life period to defending my first title defence back in warren ohio which is next door youngstown which was a fifth of july of my first title defence shy of eighty two and in front of nisus banja from twenty thousand people live in a football stadium backing next on warning area and number three fighting at madison square garden my my third tons of fencing it's a lender of maryland september fifteenth nineteen eighty three it's the same ring that my father fought in saint the joe louis the reason why can't i can't and they're all tony cans and they all roberta rent all the great fighters the root cause that the garden never changed the ring over fifty years so the fight the garden feber liquors your claim yankees getting very fire you gotta find at the garden anything you change not not a good look benson no i mean only thing or i should say only thing i might change now is i'm more like a fighter instead of more like a businessman the more like a fighter if i felt like a business and i would i would have no forget bramble we went right the camacho or prior that would have been a fight but i i did one of the bypass ramble i told my man i don't nobody they say we got them then i got them i'll beat this guy will move on now see if it did happen ray it's a wonderful story and thank you for sharing it with us and i want 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decades he associated press reporting that comes as scientists warned that both should serve as a wakeup call to be ready when he long gritted big one strikes california's already spending more than sixty million dollars to solve salt thousands of quake detecting sensor statewide officials say will give utilities trains precious seconds to sucked out before the shaking starts vip reports of magnitude six point four earthquake thursday at a seven point five quake friday or centered near a small dessert town about a hundred fifty miles from los angeles meantime are eric take it off reports ground shaking new research finds many washington state public schools are at high risk scope serious damage in earthquake now washington geologic surveys school seismic safety project looked at two hundred twenty two schools across the state were about five percent of the total it found that in a major earthquake a majority of the buildings will receive red tech or be unsafe to occupy in the quarter wouldn't be repairable at all chief hauser's geologist on the steady corrina force in says her team did indepth analysis of fifteen schools and it's only a great cost range from sixty two thousand dollars to five million even though the price tag teams remarkable and very high the estimated cost to replace these buildings is much much higher and so investing now will help save live in a lot of money in the long run for the notes it's a wide ranging costs illustrates the need for specific site assessment most of the school buildings were constructed before nineteen seventy five the year washington adopted a statewide building code according to this study washington ranked second in the nation for earthquake risk with the highest risk in the western part of the state in washington state lawmakers set aside two point two billion dollars with card by adding him that will continue these schools seismic safety project which will survey about critter fifty buildings in focus on schools threatened by an earthquake triggered sudani as a march for public funding of politically cab pages well say presidential town hall capped off the independence weekend in new hampshire the sunday march was inspired by granite state data door screening they had who at the age of ninety walked across the country in two thousand the promote campaign finance reform had attracted bipartisan support back then including then you as senators russ feingold and john mccain olivia sink of the group open democracy in an organizer of this march to crumble polarized political environment issue of campaign finance reform as harry by partisan we want every candidate republican and democrat party is to be talking about what we need to do to fix our democracy we really need a system represent qualify for shut down traffic the march beginning to remain in ended in downtown portsmouth maine has a system of voluntary public campaign financing so zinke says the march was symbolically bringing similar election reforms to new hampshire following the march in speeches in market square some marches walked up the street to the democracy townhall co hosted by the group equal citizens meantime the costa being transported to a hospital in a medical helicopter jumped by sixty percent in just four here's w robert muller's report between two thousand twelve in two thousand sixteen according to a new report patients in kentucky end across the country are getting surprise bills for thirty nine thousand dollars on average for these life saving trips the findings from johns hopkins university researchers come as hospitals in at least four kentucky townie adair fulton nicolas an owen have shut their doors whitney corby as a nurse who survived a car wreck six years ago she says without access to a helicopter ambulance she might not be here today on the helicopter i want coma and then when i got there they did all the tests and everything in the doctor came out and he told my parents that i would not have survived some experts say insurance companies should be required to cover emergency medical services most currently do not recent public outcry over high medical bills has gotten any attention of congress but there is no legislation on the books that specifically addresses air ambulance cost that report says people living in rural areas of the most likely to be affected by air medical service fees and finally dan hyman reports across america the population of local and regional jails has tripled in the last forty years in prison policy initiative examined usa justice department and pass census data from the nineteen eighties through twenty sixteen pain wander bertram with initiatives says they found pretrial detention is a major factor as many detainees either can't afford their bail or judges won't release some on personal recognizance the cree child population which is much bigger than it was ten or twenty years ago is primarily what's driving crowding local jail needs of people that have not yet been convicted of a crime that are being held for their child some jurisdictions have seen promising results by doing away with cash bail instead releasing folks headed there trout and following up with reminders mike thanks for starting your week with public service we are member elicit supporter in rob line at public service donna archie from phoenix arizona if you wanna follow me on twitter go ahead and do so my handle is at jeff rich talks we've got plenty to talk about this evening a slower week for sports to say the least a all eyes on cleveland ohio my first place my hometown andy host of two thousand nineteen major league baseball all star festivities which kicked off actually on sunday action that saturday and sunday a high school all star game you know those get a pipe with a basketball democ mcdonald's all american game at all of be a high school all star games take place in the sport of football a b high school gave does not need is much fanfare but these kids get the play in major league baseball stadium a you know at the center of these baseball universe at least a going in coming out of the weekend going into monday and tuesday but you have to be a celebrity liberty game the celebrity softball game the futures game which takes place on sunday and they air on sunday i heard j r smith a mayday triumphant return to cleveland at worst shirtless but oddly all star festivities not only news of the day we've got a lot of envy free agency is talk about why a letter domino has finally falling in falling in a big way a lot of by tremors throughout the league resulting seeing from that decision by co why a letter back in baseball justin verlander all star game starter for the american league on tuesday a he is very public about the ball being used and it's relevant because he is starting the all star game a little brown had a bunch of spare parts you're gonna make a run at it but anthony davis is a good basketball player a we've got the second half of the major league baseball season to talk about the first the mid summer classic on tuesdays hope everybody had a good fourth of july act gratulations do a international soccer team for bringing home the victory in the world cup will discuss that a little bit later on my name is jeff rich this is sports overnight america you're listening dan patrick radio sirius sirius xm channel two eleven in the sports while i broadcast network it will be right back a losing your hair ducks and i said no i blocked mine and to add a free guys will experience hair loss by the time they're thirty five well might be too late for me but it's not too late for you now there's keeps the easiest and most affordable way to keep the hair you have these products used the costs so much but now thanks keeps their finally inexpensive and easy to obtain for five minutes now at starting at just ten bucks a month you'll never have to worry about hair loss again so you just sign up takes less than five 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through the lens of the nation back on my hometown on monday night add it was pete alonzo i mean who is this guy i he had about thirty home runs before the break so a better learn his name pretty quickly plays in a big enough market but you should probably know his name metzer just full of dysfunction right now but a they've got a couple of good athletes a you know ad pete alonzo the winner now of course he's gonna go down with the likes of justice and where no one me two thousand eight home run derby addy old yankee stadium d a final year that it stood at that that was the most watched home run derby well we won't see the numbers until tuesday but a what is showing what a what a what a display of major league baseball's young talent on monday night in cleveland carlos santana alex alex bregman they've been there for a little bit of while while but wide guerrero junior pete alonzo ronald the kunia junior all these guys edge i mean even jock peterson no reason established veteran and i i would you know definitely conceit josh bell adopt josh bell show a little bit better santana would show a little bit better but a you know as it maybe it's bad i i don't really care if my guy wins the home run derby i don't really care of any of those guys a may make a big sure you know put up a big show in the all star game i mean it it would be it would have been nice to see lindores starting quite obviously a because he is you know certainly the face of africa tries if not be entire city of cleveland brad hand you're gonna have a carlos santana starting the game shane beaver a what is it you know i mean who who are these maps where these cleveland indians shane bieber not trevor bauer not corey kluber dot carlos carrasco add a you know we did learn a around the fourth of july that day we we confirmed things we'd been hearing for a while that a carlos carrasco ask goes diagnosed with leukemia in you know first thing the guy does is he goes to a pediatric unit in cleveland and visits with with with children of the same element feel sorry for himself he doesn't crawl into a corner he reaches out you know he he he stays part of that community i think that is a big deal 'em i i believe that crash has been an all star once a year certainly pitched a well throughout his career is demonstrated himself to be a just a phenomenal human being in a you know with the baseball asian a with you know the rich household certainly as well insiders a sports overnight america family here a yellow certainly wishes carlos carrasco eight good recovery by the balls flying ali yard cleveland forty home run second round vlad guerrero going up against jock peterson peterson like sixty home runs hey make the vinyl in the annual it's like sometimes i understand why they've gotta do the head head it doesn't seem really fair you know you you remember josh hamilton hitting like god twenty six home runs yeah that's back when they only had like ten outs awesome other winners yet aaron judge at marlins park beats is a future teammate stanton in that one prince fielder back in oh nine a the gal tejada at minute maid park back in two thousand four jason gm be a in milwaukee todd frazier i'd do it in his hometown great american ballpark back in twenty fifteen when he was with the reds library senior you know we don't we don't get that kind of history on monday night but vlad guerrero senior a back in two thousand seven in san francisco a cesspool this for the rest of us seinfeld turned thirty man was things happened over the over the weekend you know just like not just sports you know you had a if the soccer going on you've got kids committed you know you've got college football players committing to i you know joined a program either a next spring or next fall out world cup conclude over in france americans really never in any danger of losing a game in that tournament they have scored late i think they win three two one late against see a the british they beat the french they beat the british andy reid the dutch ad offer a lot of them i i'm very happy for a lot of them are very happy very you know there's there's just there's just a few of oh there's just a few of them that a i just don't care for you know i look back at you know i i completely jaded by v wave at a the two thousand eight olympic basketball team colluded legal collusion i mean they're they're allowed the tamper with themselves all they want just executives any you know teams that don't play these guys that can't do that tampering thing but the players get dapper is much they want a they're proven they they have absolutely proven that they run the league not be executives not be governors remember we gotta we gotta switch terms here to be within these proper nomenclature of adam silver but yeah you know it's a lot of times they're changing as her change a lot of convert la societal conversations a surrounding v world cup andy i u s a national team would they just want it a lot a lot of conversations that guy extend reality a sport of soccer or european football depending on where you are we need those conversations i dunno here to inform you i think you're were especially at ten o'clock at night live at at ten pm on the west coast good at sports byline dot com purry a full schedule of programming there but you know if you wanna have a conversation about it yeah you're welcome to call the number out there i will take calls after the break should you feel so inclined wind one eight hundred eight seven eight seven five two nine eight hundred eight seven eight seven five to nine kevin durant's you know going to brooklyn we've known that for a couple of days quite a kyrie irving signing with them becomes official everything became official on saturday on the six you know anthony davis becomes the laker as funny he goes he got quiet leonard and paul george being introduced inside staples and a lebron suck it up with the apple davis in a parking lot what if the clippers were the better team what if the clippers continue to be the better team is there any unseating the lakers in las angeles they don't worry about it with angels in anaheim i think football's a different animal and by the way i you know if it wasn't than it would just be you know undeniably a rams town those charges are gonna have to figure out some place to go i ate it would be a shame to take them out of california but you know being the other team they might as well go ahead san diego 'cause they're basically the padres even though they're in ellie they're basically just kind of an afterthought i don't think the clippers are gonna be that they have they you know they have the finals mvp you know they have a guy trying to win a championship and the third city the clippers average jets to maintain a lot of success here for wild but i'm not sure but they necessarily unseat the lakers is that team in town we gotta nasty collusion talk about major league baseball and you know and unethical 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bottom of the eighth division rivals ad you know the you know the player wrote a database i got he's got a good wheels adam callow and they had a good are moves good throw a lyric roy just a you know he tried to block the plate but we got run over i it's part of the game i i know there's a there's a little bit of bias that myself eight fan of the cleveland indians especially a or is it back in twenty sixteen when we were growing opted not to to invoke his no trade clause do not go to the cleveland indians ended up being moved to okay i you know i i i think it was a what is it the houston astros you've got you know you got moved over to the houston astros an m did not a are knows the rangers got moved to the texas rangers and they didn't advance fast toronto blue jays despite the fact i think they have the best record in baseball a they advance fast yeah blue jays in the american league division series ad luke roy as still yet to play in a world series which you would have done assumingly if he would've taken the trade the cleveland i think cleveland ends up not getting brad hand last year because we wanna prospects they were ready to move for luke roy was catching prospect named a francisco skill media who you know his his played significant time would be san diego padres disease we you know we have lots of look forward to let me let me say this that i don't think that you know requires hey suspension of any type a they did call resnick out i know the astros fans were very happy with that they ended up winning that game in extra innings they ended up winning that game by account of eleven to ten white with dini doesn't think that a you know players should be other that we should change the game terry francona keta disagrees with that or pardon me that's the other way round mike the theme he thinks that a blocking the plate is a thing of the passenger frank kota a they told me directly back in twenty thirteen all due respect the mike but you know i don't agree with you i think there's a certain way the game is played and you'll francona play that's off he's got world championships ships to his credit but he's not managing the the home team in the all star game which would have been really ideal for the indians to win the world series in twenty eighteen and then hosted the all star game between nineteen we'll see a cavalier's who is t a n v eight all star game i believe it's twenty twentyone in cleveland at pr rocket mortgage fieldhouse which is the same arena the even playing in since nineteen ninety five it was a previously called the quicken loans arena before that be gunter arena a name day off for a seat ownership of the team when they moved from the richfield coliseum up to a downtown cleveland in a they did play in the gun dental a you know the guns no longer on the team dan gilbert owned the team is weak kneeling neighbors after his bank you know no shame in that a lot of a lot of movement and then be eight you know it's almost like player is unhappy player tells you where they wanna go and you do everything in their power to make sure that they go there where's the swinging amiss from a dell dubs would be pelicans david griffin figures out how to get anthony davis to outlay takes back as much as you can from be a you know from pulling got an the lakers and i really think it is lebron at a bunch of spare parts of there by the way july eight on this date nine years ago bron james still jim gray the new state goes down to south beach an that's the real lebron james folks you know not not the villain lady you know then he tried to you know not the villain role did he tried to embrace in miami but v the very first first attitude but he's at an annual he's the best there is a little bit you know he's he's entitled in some way to you know sit on that pedestal sit on the throne as he likes to proclaiming himself as the gang i was very successful in miami in in you know i could tell you that a reopening cleveland in twenty ten was not in his best interest but but but that television show you know we we got a lot of us in cleveland oddest levelheaded fans in cleveland there were unhappy about that you know of course where he'll be unhappy that in the superstars departing the team we've gone through we had gone through it with albert bell now we had gone through it west manny ramirez just a few years later we we you know as the twentieth century became the twentyfirst in we a crawl george you know two thousand seven just a great year by cleveland standards prior prior a twenty sixteen in an apple time obviously two thousand seven's best year the headset against eighteen forty eight when they won the world series the browns were unbeaten in a f c play cavaliers word the word even a thought yet so a lot of time you know a lot of time it past immigrant taking that team to the finals that was a big deal but you know affected they they add two more opportunities it was overweight ashley three more two thousand eight boston in the sec around two thousand nine orlando doing these conference finals two thousand ten boston again in the second round out the celtics did go to the finals both of those years so you know maybe maybe not put so much emphasis on that second round thing but the but the the the guy that sat there in may that you know quote unquote decision which play for the lakers it'd be easy for him to film space jam to maybe maybe shows kids go to a better highschool it's just a you don't lebron james puts the brian james out of everyone else and you everybody should do that everybody should you put yourself first i mean you know everybody's got different philosophies god ranks up their loyalty loyalty to you're country loyalty to a family all of those things or somebody number one a public image that lebron james portrays i i believe in you know is is his don't a lot more going on and just see a lakers you know kind of getting the band back together in a lot of ways avery bradley in rashawn rondo are gonna be either anthony davis aunt boogie cousins i'd rather be they're lebron james and danny green near reunite a day last played together with the cabs and overnight in in twenty ten but a quiet leonard signs with the clippers but i i believe that it had to have been contingent on the clippers acquiring paul george from oklahoma city who seems willing to trade him similar the trade everyone they sent jeremy grant to a denver for nothing that's a move that helps denver a lot and i guess against the jets payroll for oklahoma city frees up cap space where guys they're not gonna bring in russell westbrook says he wants to go to miami i i think that worked at a little bit differently though i i think the miami called oklahoma city it said hey you know what can we do for russell westbrook so a sam presi goes to to westbrook and says in miami heat are interested in you is at a place that you would like to go would you like to stay here but a they they told their review they told their free agents they committed in principle but they could have second thoughts and you know as as a result you've already got a guy go into oakland are going to the golden state warriors instead a lot of shaking live in a lot of shaking happens in you know toronto is just kind of left for dead back in the eastern conference for quite leonard never really committed to much more of that in one of his contract with the spurs what's supposed to be finished that out he got the napoli from the spurs you got the win a championship i mean a as far as justice do goes a quiet leonard is earned it in a big way and what if you could do it for the clippers what if you could lift that organization from the ashes doc rivers getting a layer will doc rivers not be able to take this thing down patrick beverley to that's a that's a that's a pretty formidable big big three they don't need to worry about a bench get the lakers worried about a bench you know why the lakers have 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two thousand seven ride pardon me a dozen someone's in san francisco identity to be a vet in phoenix in two thousand eleven a robinson connote to comi honors we did not have a player from the hose team a participating i think that there are key elements you have to meet here when you talk about the whole all star weekend in general i think that you do need a host player in the starting lineup if if if at all possible right i think that's the first injury replacement you make if any of the starters can't go you look at a you know who's there from the home team so outfielder that makes it easy you got three guys did choose from but you know you could run into a situation where the guy stand up to snuff in in you can't replace you know you were replaces roster spot but you're probably not pulling a guy i mean presumably if you're training insert a player into the starting lineup he's already on the team somehow because the manager decided they're just gonna put him on the team and then now you know and that's just a decision well you know there's this guy this guy fill the gap anna my taking away from anybody else but if any away from somebody that would care somebody that matters to and there's a lot of game three on that but a you know you don't need to necessarily make you know make sure that a guy that's already going to be in the all star game i mean you know maybe you throw your votes somebody else specialty outfield where it's a it's a little more buried a but it's you know i think if you're sitting in the home run seats it's kinda cool but a major city you don't even see the batter you watch the event don the video screen on the scoreboard i mean we add what would be good seats fur irregular game you know just a you know left field line this is the chase field a lower level you'll probably fifteen rose up great place to watch football game in general but with all the players sitting outside the dog out you know all we really all i really got out of that experience in states with individuals saw that it actually happened to be a my birthday which i you know we all star game in the home run derby sometimes do follow that day at sometimes i get that dreadful black wednesday you know where where nothing's going on spf hosts dsp's which just found out the doesn't actually a isn't actually just they they named the network any words they give it you know it's it's insurance in sports yearly awards something like that yes why i don't watch it i don't particularly care for it i i think that you have a word shows and entertainment because you don't have way to declare a winner so everybody's winters music it's just album sales fans going on tour in sports you already no way you yeah you watch them went on the field but then we give individual words and this is how we put be a oh villanova basketball you know this is this is this is how you get you know teams you know alabama football you put alabama football up against the patriots like how how do you measure that but we get a trophy is vsbn gets pat themselves on the back and there is a lot of money for charity so you can't prove it too much but that that's that's what it is more or less it's a slow time the sports calendar a minor league minor league baseball i'm sure you've got wmd ea heck you might even be the wsb eight all star game and i guess this is good as good a time as any since i'm there already to a transition transition into the discussion about a men's verse women's sports this is you know societal discussion but let's let's let's get something out there all the men make nine percent of total revenue the women make thirteen percent bad but they're on suburb contracts they're separate programs in this country they did they don't operate collectively they play the same sport that's about all of they have in common and they're funded funded and you know through the same channels through the same types of champions by the men's world cup me four billion dollars four billion dollars in twenty ten and twenty fifteen be women's world cup which they you know where the united states was victorious in four hundred dollars in a four hundred thousand dollars i'd be really funny but four hundred million dollars you know when i when i heard this question about pay they pay the women's players equally to that of the man all right you know first of all it you know it's it's weird and soccer because you could play freer country had it doesn't it doesn't cost you anything you don't lose this time away from you're team but these guys are already making so much money playing overseas playing a contract because of the men because of the the premier league so you know it's it's not just be level of athlete the level of entertainment the viewers more viewer area there might have been more viewers for the latest version of the game this year but i you know when i start here in this you know pay them like well you know if they if they make more money if they if they do you know if they bring in more revenue than they should definitely get more revenue but it's it's such a small fraction it's such a small fraction fraction hey you know we'd be verified the facts we definitely need to make sure that you know before we share numbers i'm not here to inform you on here that are changing but you know i did it buddy buddy looked at a fairly you know it's like the steakhouse in the mcdonald's burger flipper flips the burger puts it on bread wraps it in paper maybe throws in the microwave depending where's that a burger joint you're talking about answers this of the customer waves aside imitators down the street there's a steakhouse where these same person is making probably seven or eight times maybe twelve fifteen times would that a burger flippers making it's because you could sell the stake the bottle of wine and you have a three hundred dollar check versus say hey six dollar track check it out it's not even complicated economics it's the more money you bring in the more you could afford to pay your you know you're laborers year contributors and whether they like it or not play you know athletes are laborers for worthy you know for the organization mean as as is everybody on the payroll it's just this this demand that being said you're such a cut above and i think it's like a quarter of a million dollars these ladies make it it's better than a lot of them would do i'm not saying all of them but it's better than a lot of them would do otherwise said about football players making the league minimum an adult will circle back on the league minimum you've got probably junior anti flag guerrero junior squared i guess yeah both those guys making her out a four hundred and forty eight to five hundred and fifty thousand dollars cash prize at wet you up peter alonzo of ill with the launch it wasn't it wasn't making right but he makes five fifty so he's doubling the salary what the what the purse from the home run derby take it seriously right just just take take this stuff seriously you know they they mentioned it you know in in in the opening round you know we watched bregman go down we can tana go down you know for some of these guys josh bell some of these guys just wasn't fair you know other guy is the other guys belton thirty and you know is more entertaining event it's not generally the best of it but i'm gonna tell you the gate feature pizza young talent the game featured players it's not like the dunk contest where it featured players play on teams you don't care about that are going to be contributing players i mean you're you're you're calling guys up from the d league generally a dunk contest they see a baseball basta baseball's best play i i mean you know the excitement of the tripoli segment of the stolen base you're ball in play you know probably fifty fifty balls you know a double plays diving stops there's a there's a lot that happens that's all i i think is a little more exciting than a home run in baseball especially just you know especially with without a game situation where it's binary where it's it's a wonder it's zero you and you market zero murdered zero when a the balls file or hits off the top of the wall oh that'd be nazi carlos santana go very far above average deal with it but i last thing i wanna do is do something like jock peterson you know where he's got seventy home runs an ad and no victory the show for an but you know maybe some big christian yelich didn't wanna play christian yelich didn't wanna participate he's got a he's got a leadoff you all star game for the national league you know so it'd be a verlander v yell edge in different uniforms and you saw him in two years ago at the time of the all star break yellow which i i never thought that he would be the best the best bob departing player from that the marlins outfield standstill does his thing and animals in is no slouch but i i did think those other two i would be more impactful and their new clubs then a then yell legend in fact i thought that lewis brinson was a big part to the brewers to move but their general managers i'm talking about sports on the radio off from ten to midnight monday through thursday at jeffords talks by the way but a no i'm looking forward to be all star game starting lineup stirring carlos santana gets participate you all star game andy will bat force for the american league in in this one george springer leading off i mentioned yellowish leading off an now his rival hobby by as well all play shortstop batting second freddy freeman batting third playing first base from atlanta braves cody bellenger who will be chasing a triple crown in the second half of the season a batting cleanup playing right field from las angeles dodgers nolan aaron auto third base from the rockies josh bell will have the designated hitter duty so i thought that he should have been voted it as a starter a first based on his freddy freeman but josh bell kinda that wildcard a put in as the designated hitter for dave roberts willson contreras a from the cubs will catch gotta hartsdale will bat ace an ronald kunia junior will play centerfield and bad night with a young jin ryu on the hill a representing these loss angeles dodgers avi american league goes springer and ride dj lemay hugh at second base batting second mike trout batting third santana batting fourth a designated hitter for alex cora will be jd martinez of from his boston red sox alex bregman at third base gary sanchez catching a former cleveland in in in current houston astro michael brantley will bat ethan play left field a or they block go play shortstop aunt batting ninth and then justin verlander off from the from the houston astros will be the starting pitcher addy's talking about the lobbying juice he doesn't like it but guess what sport is selling better than it did when we were seeing all of these home runs my name is jeff rich there's a sports overnight america using dan patch radio 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folks don't let somebody pull you into liking something that you just don't wanna like you know you don't like soccer you don't have to watch you watch the world cup you don't have to watch them unless you certainly don't have to watch bmw sl and there's gonna be this big push that everybody has to watch this beatrice did it so the the revenue to grow it's not it's just not gonna happen now there are players this team that i don't care if they're antics i saw the united states flag on a brown a during these teams celebration i didn't care that i guess one player kinda recommendation would be entire situation and i do appreciate that three of appreciation i appreciate she met a man scott on the other side of the glass like you're staying up all night my name's jeff rich this is bad sports overnight america dan patrick radio sirius xm channel two eleven downstate you more sports coming your way next hour on the sports byline broadcast network i where the rubber meets the road i drink actually i'm not even sure what that means you need the radio network nine seats dot com a news cast the motivation like eight twenty nineteen by clifford as california continues the cleanup earthquakes schools in states like washington are in danger of major damage also on the one day run down a weekend march calls for attention to the need for election before plus a look at why many u s jails are overcrowded now are top story shaken residents were cleaning up sunday from two of the biggest earthquakes to rental california in decades he associated press reporting that comes as scientists warned that both should serve as a wakeup call to be ready when he long gritted big one strikes california's already spending more than sixty million dollars to solve thousands thousands of quite detecting sensor statewide officials say will give utilities trains precious seconds to sucked out before the shaking starts vip reports a magnitude six point four earthquake thursday at a seven point five quake friday or centered near a small dessert town about a hundred fifty miles from los angeles meantime are eric take it off reports ground shaking new research finds many washington state public schools are at high risk of serious damage in earthquake now washington geologic survey school seismic safety project looked at two hundred twenty two schools across the state were about five percent of the total it found that in a major earthquake a majority of the buildings will receive a red tack tech or be unsafe to occupy in the quarter wouldn't be repairable at all chief hauser's geologist on the steady corrina force in says her team did indepth analysis of fifteen schools and it's only a great cost range from sixty two thousand dollars to five million even though the price tag teams remarkable and very high the estimated cost to replace these buildings is much much higher and so investing now will help save live in a lot of money in the long run for the notes wide ranging costs illustrates the need for specific site assessment most of the school buildings were constructed before nineteen seventy five the year washington adopted a statewide building code according to this study washington ranked second in the nation for earthquake risk with the highest risk in the western part of the state in washington state lawmakers set aside two point two billion dollars in current by adding m that will continue these schools seismic safety project which will survey about critter fifty buildings and focus on schools threatened by an earthquake triggered sudani as a march for public funding of politically cab pages well say presidential town hall capped off the independence weekend in new hampshire the sunday march was inspired by granite state data door screening they had it who who at the age of ninety walked across the country in two thousand the promote campaign finance reform haddock attracted bipartisan support back then including venue as senators russ feingold and john mccain olivia sink of the group both in democracy in an organizer of this week's march she's got a critical polarized political environment issue of campaign finance reform as harry by partisan we want every candidate republican and democrat party is to be talking about what we need to do the fixer democracy we really need a system that represent percent off i four shutdown the march beginning to remain in ended in downtown portsmouth maine has a system of voluntary public campaign financing so zinke says the march was symbolically bringing similar election reforms to new hampshire following the march in speeches in market square some marches walked up the street to the democracy townhall co hosted by the group equal citizens meantime the costa being transported to a hospital in a medical helicopter jumped by sixty percent in just four years w robert muller's report between two thousand twelve in two thousand sixteen according to a new report patients in kentucky end across the country are getting surprise bills for thirty nine thousand dollars on average for these lifesaving trips the findings from johns hopkins university researchers come as hospitals in at least four kentucky townies adair fulton nicolas an owen have shut their doors whitney corby is a nurse who survived a car wreck six years ago she says without access to a helicopter ambulance she might not be here today on the helicopter i want coma and then when i got there they did all the tests and everything in the doctor came out and he told my parents that i would not have survived some experts say insurance companies should be required to cover emergency medical services most currently do not recent public outcry over high medical bills has gotten any attention congress but there is no legislation on the books that specifically addresses air ambulance cost that report says people living in rural areas of the most likely to be affected by air medical service fees and finally dan hyman reports across america the population of local and regional jails has tripled in the last forty years in prison policy initiative examined usa justice department and pass census data from they nineteen eighties to twenty sixteen wonder bertram with few initiatives says they found pretrial detention is a major factor as many detainees either can't afford their bail or judges won't release some on personal recognizance the pre child population which much bigger than it was ten or twenty years ago is primarily what's driving crowding local jail music people that have not yet been convicted of a crime that are being held for their child some jurisdictions have seen promising results by doing way with cash bail instead releasing folks headed there trout and following up with reminders i mike thanks for starting your week with public service we are member elicit supported it rob line at public service donna archie manning america my name is jeff rich come at you from phoenix arizona if you wanna follow me on twitter go ahead and do so my handle is at jeff rich talk so we've got plenty of talk about this evening a slower week for sports to say the stop all eyes on cleveland ohio my first place my hometown as they host of two thousand nineteen major league baseball all star festivities which kicked off actually on sunday accents saturday there was a high school all star game you know those get a pipe with a bathroom mcdonald's all american game at all of z highschool all star games take place in the sport of football a b high school kid does not need is much fanfare but these kids get the play in major league baseball stadium a you know at the center of these baseball universe at least a going in coming out of the weekend going into monday and tuesday but but you have to be a celebrity game goes celebrity softball game the futures game which take place on sunday and they air on sunday i heard j r smith a mayday triumphant return to cleveland yeah i'd wear short list but are you all star festivities not only news of the day we've got a lot of envy free agency of talk about being why leonard domino has finally fall living in falling in a big way a lot of hot tremors throughout the league resulting from that decision by co why a letter back in baseball justin verlander be all star game starter for the american league on tuesday a he is very public about the ball being used and it's relevant because he is starting to be all star game lebron had a bunch of spare parts you're gonna make a run at it but anthony davis is a good basketball player a we've got these second half of the major league baseball season to talk about the first the mid summer classic odds used day hope everybody had a good fourth of july acc congratulations to a new international soccer team for bringing home the victory in the world cup will discuss that a little bit later on my name's jeff rich this is sports it's overnight america realistic dab radio sirius xm channel two eleven and this is 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hundred four oh three five nine one two that's eight hundred four oh three fifty nine twelve there's no more rockets in center field going on here it is let's be fair here's hi it's pat all the way through so great is fine jamaica realized that is not jason garrett lauren here he is you're shoes dollars nineteen king mobile home run derby this is sports overnight america with your host jeff rich who these matt i mean pete alonzo jeff mcneil but they're making a difference welcome back to sports overnight america everyone i am jeff rich coming at you from phoenix arizona i got to watch these through the lens of the nation back on my hometown on monday night add it was pete alonzo i mean who is this guy a he had about thirty home runs before the break so a better learn his name pretty quickly plays in a big enough market the just should probably know his name metzer just full of dysfunction right now but a they've got a couple of good athletes a you know an pete alonzo the winner now of course he's gonna go down it with the likes of justin and more know who won me two thousand eight home run derby at the old yankee stadium be a final year that it stood at guy that was the most watched home run derby well we'll see the numbers until till tuesday but a what a showing what a what a what a display of major league baseball's young talent on monday night in cleveland carlos santana alex alex bregman they've been there for a little bit of while flight vlad guerrero junior pete alonzo ronald the kunia junior all these guys edge i mean even jock peterson and you know he's and establish a veteran i i would be you know definitely conceit josh bell adopt josh bell show a little bit better adopt santana would show a little bit better but a you know as a maybe it's bad i i don't really care if my guy wins the home run derby i don't really care if any of those guys a may make a big show you'll put up a big show in the all star game i mean it it would be it would have been nice to see lindores starting quite obviously a because he is you know certainly the face of that franchise if not be entire city of cleveland but you're at brad hand you're gonna have carlos santana starting the game shane bieber a what is it you know i mean who who are these maps it's where these cleveland indians shane bieber not trevor bauer not corey kluber dot carlos carrasco add a you know we did learn a rather fourth of july that we we confirmed things we'd been hearing a wild at a carlos carrasco has been diagnosed with leukemia in you know first thing the guy does is he goes to a pediatric unit and cleveland and visits with you know with with children of the same ailment feel sorry for himself he doesn't crawl do a corner you know he reaches out you know he he he stays part of that community i think that is a big deal 'em i i believe that crash has been at all star once a year certainly pitched a well throughout his career is demonstrated himself to be a just a phenomenal human being in a you know with the baseball asian a with the rich household certainly as well insiders a sports overnight america family here a you know certainly wishes carlos carrasco eight good recovery by the balls flying ali yard cleveland forty home run second round you know vlad guerrero going up against jock peterson jack petersen it's like sixty home runs to make the vinyl in the end you know that's why sometimes i understand why they've gotta do the head the head it doesn't seem really fair you know you you remember josh hamilton hitting like god twenty six home runs back when they only had like ten out awesome other winners yet aaron judge at marlins park beads is a future teammate stanton in that one prince fielder back in oh nine a bit guilty at a at a minute maid park back in two thousand four jason gm be a in milwaukee todd frazier i do it in his hometown great american ballpark back in twenty fifteen when he was with the reds imply gross senior you know we don't we don't get that kind of history on monday night but vlad guerrero senior a back in two thousand seven in san francisco a cesspool this for the rest of us seinfeld turned thirty man was things happened over the over the weekend you know just like not just sports you have if the soccer going on you've got kids committed you know you got college football players committing to a you know joined a program either a next spring or next fall is he out world cup includes over in france americans really never in any danger of losing a game in that tournament big bad score late i think they win three two one late against a the british they beat the french they'd be the british andy reid the dutch add a for a lot of them i i'm very happy for a lot of very happy very you know there's there's just there's just a few of or there's just a few of them that a i just don't care for you know as i look back at you know i i'm completely jaded by v wave at a the two thousand eight olympic basketball team colluded it's legal inclusion i mean they're they're allowed the tamper with themselves all they want just executives and eating you know teams that don't play these guys that can't do that tampering thing but the players kidnappers much they want they've proven they have absolutely proven that they run the league not be executives not be governors remember we gotta we gotta switch terms here to be within these proper nomenclature of adam silver but a yeah you know it's a lot of times they're changing desert change a lot of convert lot of societal conversations a surrounding v world cup andy i you as a national team where they just want a lot a lot of conversations that extend reality a sport of soccer or european football depending on where you are we need to get those conversations i dunno here to inform yeah i think that i'm here for especially at ten o'clock at night live at at ten pm on the west coast good at sports byline dot com purry a full schedule of programming there but you know if you wanna have a conversation about it yeah you're welcome to call the number out there i will take calls after the break should you feel so inclined one eight hundred eight seven eight seven five two nine eight hundred eight seven eight seven five to nine kevin durant's you know going to brooklyn we've known that for a couple of days quite i kyrie irving signing with them becomes official like everything became official on saturday on the six you have the d davis becomes a laker as funny and it gives you got quiet leonard and paul george being introduced inside staples and a lebron suck it up with the athlete davis in a parking lot what if the clippers were the better team what if the clippers continue to be the better team is there any unseating the lakers in los angeles louis you know they don't worry about it with angels in anaheim football's a different animal and by the way a you know if it wasn't than it would just be you know undeniably rams town those charges you're gonna have to figure out some place to go i ate all it would be ashamed to take them out of california but you know being the other team they might as well go ahead san diego 'cause they're basically the padres even though they're in ellie they're basically just kind of an afterthought i don't think the clippers you're gonna be that they have they you know they have the finals mvp you know they have a guy trying to win a championship and the third city the clippers average jets to maintain a lot of success here for a while but i'm not sure but they necessarily unseat the lakers is that team in town we got a nasty collusion talk about major league baseball and yelling unethical thing to discuss when we get back my name's jeff rich you're listening to sports overnight america other sports why like broadcast network it will be right back this is sports overnight america hey travelers do you want to save money on your next flight since pick up the phone then call that's right call because the best prices are 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by live broadcast network one eight hundred eight seven eight seven five to nine or a tweet me at jeff rich talks or tweet the network at sports byline usa if you wanna kinda shift the conversation in the in the direction of a topic that you wanna hear about a by all means go ahead and tweet either myself or the network at jeff rich talks at sports byline you ask hey andy out we heard jake moreau's nick tagging up from there on a coal calhoun throw to the plate and barely over angels catcher jonathan luke roy this one this one thing they do it should be a jerk type of thing this was a ten ten ballgame bottom of the eighth division rivals ad deal the you know the player running down the baseline got he's got a good wheels adam keller only had a good arm it was good throw a wig roy just a you know he tried to block the plate but we got run over i it's part of the game i i know there's a there's a little bit of bias that myself eight fan of cleveland indians especially a or is it back in twenty sixteen when luke roy opted not to to invoke his no trade clause do not go to the cleveland indians ended up being moved to okay i you know i i think it was a what is it the houston astros got you know you got moved over to the houston astros an m did not a are knows the rangers you've got moved to the texas rangers and they didn't advance past toronto blue jays despite the fact i think they have the best record in baseball a they advance fast yeah blue jays in the american league division series aunt luke roy has still yet play in a world series which you would have done a assumingly if he would've taken the trade the cleveland i think cleveland ends up not getting brad hand last year because we wanna prospects they were ready to move for luke roy was catching prospect named a francisco mahia who you know his his played significant time would be san diego padres this is where the you know we'll lots of look forward to let me let me say this that i don't think that you know requires eight suspension of any type a they did commerce nick out i know the astros fans were very happy with that they ended up winning that game in extra innings they ended up winning that game by account of all evidence that white wisened he doesn't think that a you know players should you know that we should change the game terry francona kind of disagrees with that are pardon me that's the other way around like the theme he thinks that a blocking the plate is a thing of the past dirty francona a told me directly back in twenty thirteen all due respect the mike but you know i don't agree with it but there's a certain way the game is played and you know francona plato's off he's got world championships to his credit but he's not managing the the home team in the all star game which would have been really ideal for the indians to win the world series in twenty eighteen and then host the all star game between nineteen we also see a cavalier's when they host d i n v eight all star game i believe it's a twenty twentyone in cleveland at vr rocket mortgage fieldhouse which is the same arena they've been playing since nineteen ninety five it was a previously called the quicken loans arena before that be gunter rena a name day off for earthy ownership of the team when they moved from the richfield coliseum up to a downtown cleveland and they did play in the gun until a you know the guns no her own the team dan gilbert on the teams week neely named after his bank you know no shame in that a lot of a lot of movement and then be eight you know it's almost like player is unhappy player tells you where they wanna go and you do everything in power to make sure that they go there is a swinging amiss from a dell dubs would be pelicans david griffin figures out how to get anthony davis to outweigh takes back as much as you can from be a you know from pulling guy end the lakers and i really think it is lebron and a bunch of spare parts there by the way joy on this date nine years ago bron james those jim gray this take us down south beach and that's the real lebron james folks you know not not the villain that he you know he tried to remember the villain role did he tried to embrace in miami but be the very first attitude that he's had an annual he's the best there is a little bit you know he's he's in total in some way to you know sit on that pedestal serve on that thrown is he likes to proclaim himself as the gang i i was very successful in miami in in you know i could tell you that you are reopening cleveland in twenty ten was not in his best interest but but it but it but that television show you know we we had a lot of us in cleveland oddest levelheaded fans in cleveland then were unhappy about that you know of course where it'd be unhappy that in the superstars departing the team who's gone through we we had gone through it with albert bell we had gone through it without manny ramirez just a few years later we we you know as the twentieth century became the twentyfirst and we a crawl towards you know two thousand seven just a great year by cleveland standards prior prior a twenty sixteen in an apple time obviously two thousand seven his best year the headset against nineteen forty eight when the indians won the world series the browns were unbeaten in not amc play cavaliers word the word even a thought yet so a lot of time you know a lot of time at past immigrant taking that team to the finals that was a big deal but you know affected they they add two more opportunities it was overweight ashley three more two thousand eight boston in the sec around two thousand nine orlando in the conference finals two thousand ten boston again in the second round out the celtics did go to the finals both of those years so you know maybe maybe not put so much emphasis on that second round thing but the but the the the guy that sat there and made that you know quote unquote decision which play for the lakers it'd be easy for him to film space jam to maybe maybe shows kids go to a better highschool it's just a you know the broad james puts lebron james ahead of everyone else and you everybody should do that everybody she put yourself first i mean you know everybody's got different philosophy is got ranks up there a loyal to you know loyalty to you're country loyalty to a family all of those things or somebody is number one a public image that lebron james portrays i i believe leave you know is is his don't a lot more going on isn't just young lakers you know kind of getting the band back together in a lotta ways avery bradley in rashawn rondo or whatever you there anthony davis an boogie cousins i'd rather be there lebron james and danny green near reunite a bay last played together with the cabs and oh nine in in twenty ten but a quiet leonard signs with the clippers but i i believe that it had to have been contingent on the clippers acquiring paul george from oklahoma city seems willing to trade him simona trade everyone said jeremy grant to denver for nothing that's move that helps denver a lot and i guess it sheds payroll for oklahoma city frees up cap space where guys up they're not gonna bring in russell westbrook says he wants to go to miami i i think that worked at a little bit differently though i i think the miami called oklahoma city had said hey you know what could we do have russell westbrook so a sam presi goes to westbrook and says in miami heater entrusted in you is out of place that you would like to go would you like the state year but a they they've told their review the they told their free agents they committed in principle that they could have second thoughts and dad you know as as a result you've already got a guy go into oakland are going to the golden state warriors instead a lot of shaking liar you know a lot of shaking happens in you know toronto is just kind of left for dead back in the eastern conference for quite leonard never really committed to much more there and and what his contract with the spurs were supposed to be finished that out he got the napoli the spurs you got the win a championship i mean a as far as justice do goes quiet leonard deserted in a big way and what if you could do it for the clippers what if you could lift that organization from the ashes doc rivers getting a layer well doc rivers not be able to take this thing down patrick beverley to that's a that's a that's a pretty formidable formidable big big three they don't need to worry about a bench she got the lakers worried about events you know why the lakers have nothing but bench players and that's with ron decided to go to a light the save the just hasn't reciprocated forums and let's consider anthony davis proper reciprocation there my name's jeff rich this is sports overnight america shutout you all the troops with american forces network sports overnight america on the sports by like broadcast network and will be right back only seven celtic subways corporate data sports 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concert on second foul you're listening to sports overnight america okay let's go are everybody welcome back to sports overnight america rounding third madden home here a final segment of the program here a lot of talk a little bit more about the home run derby i think that's a tough bob event put on the radio i i i really do because you know it's just literally you know you don't have any of the action please see their home run or it's not andy you just can't translate it becomes a made for tv event i attended event in arizona back in two thousand seven rad pardon me a two thousand seven's in san francisco identity event in phoenix in two thousand eleven a robinson connote to comi honors we did not have any player from the whose team a participating i think that there are key elements you have to meet year out when he's talking about the whole all star weekend in general i think that you do need a host player in the starting lineup if if at all possible i i think that's the first injury replacement you make if any of the starters can't go you look at a you know who's there from the home team outfielder that makes it easy you got three guys did choose from but you know you run into a situation where the guy just stand up to snuff and in you can't replace you know you've ever replaces roster spot but you're probably not pulling a guy i mean presumably if you're trained in sort of players into the starting lineup he's already all the teams somehow because the manager decided they're just gonna put him on the team and then now you know and then it's just a decision well you know there's this guy this guy fill the gap anna making your way from anybody else making their way from somebody that care somebody that matters to there's a lot of game three on that at a you know you don't need to necessarily make you know make sure that a guy that's already going to be an all star game maybe you throw your votes somebody else especially with y'all field where it's a it's a little more varied i but it's you know i think if you're sitting in the run seats it's kinda cool but a major city you don't even see the batter or you watch the event on the on the video screen on the scoreboard i mean we add what would be good seats for irregular game you know just a you know left field line this is the chase field a lower level you know probably fifteen rose up great place to watch football game in general but with all the players sitting outside the dog out you know all we really all i really got out of that experience in states at the end of it was a it actually happened to be a my birthday which i you know they all star game in the home run derby sometimes do follow that day and sometimes i get that dreadful black wednesday you know where where nothing's going on dsp idaho's dsp's which i just found out the doesn't and actually a isn't actually just they nicknamed the network any words they give it you know it's it's in durance sports yearly awards something like that yes why i don't watch it i don't particularly care for it i i think you have award shows and entertainment because you don't have a way to declare a winner now everybody's winters music it's just album sales dan's going on tour in sports you already know where you you watch them went on the field but then we give individual words and this is how we put d a oh villanova basketball you know this is this is this is how you get your all teams alabama football you put alabama football against the patriots like how how do you measure that but we give out trophies vsbn gets pat themselves on the back and there is a lot of money for charity so you can't prove who are too much but that that's that's what it is more or less but it's a slow time of the sports calendar a minor league minor league baseball i'm sure you've got wsb ea heck it might even be the wmd eight all star game i guess this is good as good a time as any since i'm there already to a transition transition into the discussion about a men's verse women's sports this is a you know a societal discussion but let's let's get something out there you know the lake nine percent of total revenue the way they make thirteen percent bandit there on supper contracts they are separate programs in this country they they don't operate collectively they play the same sport that's it's about although they have in common and they're funded through the same channels through the same types of channels but the men's world cup me four billion dollars four billion dollars in twenty ten twenty fifteen he women's world cup which they you know where the united states was victorious in four hundred thousand four hundred thousand dollars that'd be really funny but four hundred million dollars you know when i when i heard this question about pay they pay the women's players equally to that of the men all right you know first of all it you know it's it's weird and soccer because you could play free country as it does it you know it doesn't cost you anything you don't lose time away from you're team but these guys are already making so much money playing overseas playing contracts because the men because of the the premier league so you know it's it's not just be level of athlete the level of entertainment the viewers more viewer area there might have been more viewers really oh for the latest version of the game this year but i you know when start here this you know pay them like well you know if they if they make more money if they if they do you know if they bring in more revenue than they should definitely get more revenue but it's it's such a small fraction it's such a small fraction hey you know we need to verify the facts well yeah we definitely need to make sure that you know before we share numbers i'm not here to inform you hear the entertaining but you know i did it buddy buddy looked at a fairly you know it it's like the steakhouse as mcdonald's burger flipper flips the burger puts about bread wraps it in paper paper maybe throws in the microwave depending on where it's not a burger joint you're talking about answers it's the customer west side of potatoes down the street there's a steakhouse where these same person is making probably seven or eight times maybe twelve fifteen times would that a burger flippers making its way because you could sell the stake the bottle of wine and you have a three hundred dollar check versus say hey six dollar check check it out it's not even complicated economics it's the more money you bring in the more you could afford to pay your you know you're laborers you're contributors and whether they like it or not play you know athletes are laborers for worthy you know for the organization mean as you know as is everybody on the table it's just this this demand that being said you're such a cut above and i think it's like a quarter million dollars these ladies make it it's better than a lot of them would do i'm not saying all of them but it's better than a lot of them would do otherwise set football players making the league minimum ad will circle back on the league minimum you've got probably junior anti flag guerrero junior squared i guess yeah both of those guys making her out a four hundred and forty eight to five hundred and fifty thousand dollars cash prize at wet you up peter alonzo of elvis the launch it wasn't wasn't making right but he meets five fifty so he's doubling the salary what the what the purse from the home run derby take it seriously right just just take take this stuff seriously you know they mentioned it you know in in the opening round you know we watch bregman go down we watched an santiago down you know for some of these guys josh bell some of these guys just wasn't fair you know other guys these guys belton thirty end you know is more entertaining event it's not generally the best of it but i'm gonna tell you the gate feature pizza young talent the game featured players they sound like the dunk contest where it featured players play on teams you don't care about that are going to be contributing players i mean you're you're you're calling guys up from the d league generally a dunk contest michigan baseball's best baseball's best play i i mean you know they segment of the tripoli segment of the stolen base you'll ball in play you know probably fifty fifty balls you know a you know double ways guiding stops there's a there's a lot that happens that's all i i think is a little bit more exciting than a home run in baseball especially just you know especially with without a game situation where it's binary where it's it's a wonder it's zero you own you market zero murdered zero in the balls while or hits off the top of the wall nazi carlos santana go very far that would have happened to see him win it but i last thing i wanna do is do something like jack petersen you know where he's got seventy home runs an ad and no victory the show for an but you know maybe some big christian yelich didn't wanna play christian yelich just didn't wanna participate he's gonna he's gonna leadoff starting in the national the league you know so it'll be a verlander v yell edge in different uniforms and you saw him in two years ago at time and they all star break yellow which i'd never thought that he would be the best the best stop departing clear from that the marlins outfield standstill does this thing in rosen is no slouch but i i did think that those other two would be more impactful on their new clubs then a then yell at you in fact lewis brinson was a big part to a for the brewers to move but their general managers i'm talking about sports on the radio off from ten to midnight monday through thursday at jeffords talks by the way but a no i'm looking forward to be all star game starting lineups in carlos santana got participate all star game andy will bat force for the american league in in this one george springer leading off and mentioned yellow leading off he had an out his rival hobby by as well all play shortstop that second freddy freeman batting third playing first base from atlanta braves cody bellenger who'll be chasing a triple crown in the second half of the season a bag cleanup playing right field from the las angeles dodgers nolan aaron auto third base from the rockies josh ville will have designated hitter duty so i thought that he should have been voted it as a starter a first base honors went freddy freeman but josh bell kinda that wildcard a put in as the designated hitter for dave roberts willson contreras a firm the cubs will catch got a heart they will bat eight an ronald kunia junior will play centerfield bad night with a young jin ryu on the hill a representing these loss angeles dodgers ozzy american league goes springer and ride dj lemay hugh at second base batting second mike trout batting third santana batting fourth a designated hitter for alex cora will be jd martinez of from his boston red sox alex bregman at third base gary sanchez catching a 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thailand thirteen nothing in the opening round that they had tobacco it up they had to win and the whole thing in fact they did it with a very little concern for a being defeated roughly a jew age raw 'em isaacs that 'em for the the sipping the ceo and all of the swagger that they brought the rest of the world didn't care for a i think in that regard a they made us very proud to be americans but you know what folks don't let somebody bully you into liking something that you just don't wanna like you know like soccer you don't have to watch you don't have to watch the world cup you don't have to watch them unless you certainly don't have to watch bmw sl and there's gonna be this big push that everybody has to watch this beatrice did it and so the the revenue to grow and it's not it's just not gonna happen now there are players on this team that i don't care for their antics i saw the united states flag on a brown during these teams celebration i didn't care that i guess one player kinda rip monday be entire situation and i do appreciate that speaking of appreciation i appreciate my man scott on the other side of the glass extra staying up all night my name's jeff rich this is bad sports overnight america dad patch radio sirius xm channel two eleven now state you more sports coming your way next hour on the sports byline broadcasting around for the sports attack you're listening to heartland news radio network live twenty four seven at heartland newseum dot com a service of the cast the mother's life eight twenty nineteen by clifford as california's continues the cleanup earthquakes schools in states like washington are in danger of major damage also on the one day run down a weekend march colfer attention to the need for election reform plus a look at why many u s jails are overcrowded now are top story shaken residents were cleaning up sunday from two of the biggest earthquakes to rental california in decades he associated press reporting that comes as scientists warned that both should serve as a wakeup call to be ready when he long grinning big one strikes california's already spending more than sixty million dollars to solve thousands of quite detecting effecting sensor statewide officials say will give utilities trains precious seconds to sucked out before the shaking starts vip reports of magnitude six point four earthquake thursday at a seven point five quake friday they were center there were small dessert town about a hundred fifty miles from los angeles meantime are eric take it off reports ground shaking do research finds many washington state public schools are at high risk of serious damage earthquake now washington geologic survey school seismic safety project looked at two hundred twenty two schools across the state were about five percent of the total it found that in a major earthquake a majority of the buildings will receive a red tack or be unsafe saved occupy in the quarter wouldn't be repairable at all chief hauser's 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sudani already as a march for public funding of political campaigns is well say presidential town hall capped off the independence weekend in new hampshire the sunday march was inspired by granite state data door screening they had who at the age of ninety walked across the country in two thousand and promote campaign finance reform had attracted bipartisan support back then including then you as senators russ feingold and john mccain olivia's inc of the group both in democracy in an organizer of this week's march sees that aspect critical polarized political environment issue of campaign finance reform as harry by partisan we want every candidate republican and democrat party is to be talking about what we need to do the fixer democracy we really need a system that represents all of our voices shut down the march beginning kittery maine in ended in downtown portsmouth maine has a system of voluntary public campaign financing so zinke says the march with symbolically bringing similar election reforms to new hampshire following the marching speeches in market square some marches walked up the street to the democracy townhall co hosted by the group equal citizens meantime the costa being transported to a hospital in a medical helicopter jumped by sixty percent in just four years daddy a robbery those are report between two thousand twelve in two thousand sixteen according to a new report patients in kentucky end across the country are getting surprise bills for thirty nine thousand dollars on average for these life saving trips the findings from johns hopkins university researchers come as hospitals in at least four kentucky townies adair fulton nicolas an owen have shut their doors whitney corby as a nurse who survived a car wreck six years ago she says without access to a helicopter ambulance she might not be here today on the helicopter i want coma and then when i got there they did all the tests and everything in the doctor came out and he told my parents that if i hadn't been i would not have survived some experts say insurance companies should be required to cover emergency medical services most currently do not recent public outcry over high medical bills has gotten any attention of congress but there is no legislation on the books that specifically addresses air ambulance cost that report says people living in rural areas of the most likely to be affected by air medical service fees and finally dan hyman reports across america the population nation of local and regional jails has tripled in the last forty years in prison policy initiative examined usa justice department and pass census data from the nineteen eighties to twenty sixteen wander bertram you should have says they found pretrial detention is a major factor as many detainees either can't afford their bail or judges won't release some on personal recognizance the pre child population which is much bigger than it was ten or twenty years ago is primarily what's driving crowding local 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hundred four oh three fifty nine he's got joining ju warmers hunter count our rockies satterfield in that area love real areas that were even potato wants to redefine johnny manziel johnson derek corrugated he is syracuse nineteen t mobile home run derby sharing and then he turned me now more of a sports talk with bobby here on sports overnight america back to backslash cutter you and i would use caddy usually it's a big yawn i'm not into the fringe things about the all star game i'm not even really in the all star game but there was a difference in this year's all star game plan that is the fact that they were competing for a million dollars it's the first time they put prize money up in a big way usually they just got a trophy and you know all that fun stuff i'm sure they got a couple of shackles but this time there were big bucks involved a you know they went through the rounds and i guess they're trying to make it a little more appealing for these guys to participate obviously the young guys don't mind is much because they want a platform show off their skills but when you look at these older guys and you know the jock peterson is in the world and and people long those lawrence who have done it before and been there in order to get them to participate in well they they got sponsored an for guys like pete alonzo who is on a minimum deal this this is kind of important you know it's a i'm not saying that a you know it's gonna alter their life forever because these guys gotta make some money you know down the line obviously some of them got signing bonuses you know vlad guerrero junior who is then it got a big time signing bonus from the blue jays but a i you know when you're playing for the major league minimum well you know you drop a million dollar check in the bank in after taxes of course it will it will come down significantly but a you know his base salary this year the five hundred fifty five thousand dollars which is nothing to sneeze at but after taxes and he promised ten percent of his winnings to charity any named the charities which was pretty cool 'em you know you drop another million into the banker half million in the bank after all the deductions and everything else it's life altering and it's worth showing up the play for a the crowd was enjoying the hell out of it they really were there is some serious moon shots going on at the format that they had with the formatted participation and then if you hit a home run over four hundred and forty feet dead at two of them actually they added an extra thirty seconds or so if you need it you could attempt more home runs which generally came into play a couple of times but the real tool was between peterson an vlad guerrero junior here and they happen to match up against each other oh i'm so took care of his opponents in short order it never really had the stretch it out and i think that was a bit of an advantage company end of it but they were just going toe to toe it they both ended up in their particular around with twenty nine home runs which tighter rickard and then when they went into the extra time and it ended up coming down the three swings twice for these two guys all toll it was over forty home runs for guerrero and just under photography is it forty thirty nine in order to move onto the final round you could see in the final round that that guerrero had very little left in the tank because there's these unwritten rule when they're doing this home run derby in that you're not supposed to throw a ball until the other one rams well that was nonsense and these guys were cranking about like you would at the hitting cage with the machine it was so bang bang bang an i mean they were going for it and the thing that was fun about it was that they were just into it i mean they're into it in a big way a like i said peterson was just crank it balls editor yard everything they've guerrero junior was hitting was long distance i mean it was big time and these guys like i said he just didn't have enough left in the tank to beat him out now here's a guy who is participating of twenty years the age the blue jay rookie and a you know he's following in the footsteps of his dad his hall of fame father an a here's a guy did it would have made history not only is the youngest had he been able to win but he also would have been the first father son to do it at no ken griffey senior and junior did not do it griffey junior want it but senior didn't participate a you know back in two thousand seven his father morning so pretty cool now the thing about alonzo and it shows you why he has the potential you never say after one year the guy is a superstar but why has the potential to be a star in this league you know a lot of people think that participating in the home run derby is not necessarily a good idea a because it alters you're swaying and all of sudden everybody's trying to jerk the ball out and you're hitting everything the left field and you're trying to get up in the air no no no no no well first of all for a lot of these guys they participate in this thing that's what they do anyway because the game has changed but pete alonzo if you were watching it last night and this is something and there's very little the celebrate tori about if you're a met fan but if you're watching and you wanna celebrate anything that's going on with the mets just guys keep i mean he was hitting balls all over the field in every single round he kept this week he was just elevating which he does it hard which he does he hits lasers andrew savings live but they were going out all over the place he hit three of the behind the trees in centerfield not the first road trees behind the second row trees which were close to five hundred feet i mean they were just moonshot he was sending stuff over the right over the right center and when they pitched pitched of inside they were throwing it was hitting the left field end biggest problem he had was that his cousin who is this picture was having trouble locating the ball in the first two rounds and he damn near about out in the first few rounds he barely squeaked by but they found their rhythm in the semi's and found a rhythm again in the finals and he was getting the ball over the plate and the lonzo is just rocketing stuff so it ended up being a fun event and they also had the celebrity softball thing going on which like i said i'm not you know into all that stuff it's a good time you know they they they have fun at the celebrities we're having a good time being on be field itself because roll the fun and games that they do you get a chance to participate on a major league baseball field and i you know if you've ever been on one i've i've stood on regularly stood there with my mouth open going wow wow wow there till i do use the restroom and then it wasn't so wow a so you know every into it an end that's cool thing i mean it really is a cool thick tonight is he actual game itself so it'll be all start 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Deep Sleepers of 2020 Episode 020

Fantasy Football Overtime

33:57 min | 4 months ago

Deep Sleepers of 2020 Episode 020

"Welcome to the fantasy football overtime. PODCAST I'm your host Jake's Isky with me as always are Tyler Hollerbach and Matt Wind. Bringing it in a little bit different today, Jake Fianna little bit shy today's episode. We're GONNA go over our deep sleepers of twenty twenty, but let's check in with everybody. Jake how you doing deep sleepers episode high. So what you're saying, d. how deep are we talking? Well? In the wise words of my Buddy Nick Wilford in the middle of a bar he goes. Let's go on the dance floor. We need to go deep. And we said what neck and he goes deeper. That's all he could say was deeper so nick. We're going. Going deep sleepers for you tonight Buddy Matt how're you doing today? I am doing wonderful sipping on some new version of white claw that you tyler gave me. It's called press blackberry hibiscus premium alka SELTZER COSCO special right. They're pretty good. It's not quite at least a blackberry version doesn't quite live up to the blackberry white claw, but those are my favorite kinds, so I'm gonna I'm GonNa have to try to well I. Don't think there is a blackberry white clown, but I've seen black. Cherry tastes the same. Oh, it doesn't serious. Different Cantwell technicality. Yeah well technicalities. They're real gotTA. You GotTa fault somebody on that, but like mechanisms. Yeah, all the mechanisms that are in five hundred three million dollars, Jake. What's going on with you? Well you guys just before this episodes so big old. You know read between the lines to both you. He just flicking us off. mant yeah I saw that. How do you feel about that? It's a family friendly show. Tyler read between the lines. How'd you feel about taking your shake took you long enough? It did was not thrilled. I do not like chugging from a bottle, so I did not excel at that. You could say, but I drank it. It I respected. The ICE is gone. You stuck it my crock after I went to the bathroom, so I guess I'll give that one. Yeah, well, you guys. We got a great episode on TAP. We are going to be covering three of our deep sleepers at whatever position we decided to go over in the definition of deep sleeper is anything after the tenth round so anything after pick one twenty, but before we jump in Matt you to remind listeners about. About our thingy, yeah gotTa thingy, and that thing he is a new fantasy football league that we're going to be starting. We talked about it on a couple of previous episodes, but we are here to remind you that we are going to be running a twelve person fantasy football league. It will be a PR league that we run on ESPN all kickers. No cares good, so we're going to be running at twelve person league that Jake Tyler and I will all. All be in so we're going to be having nine of our listeners. Join this league. It's GonNa. Be Awesome. This is going to be in a league that we talk about on a regular basis. There's going to be a lot of hype with it, and the winner is going to earn autographed Jersey. How does somebody get into this league? So the way that somebody will get into this league is by leaving us a review on Apple, and then simply screen. Screen shot or send it to us via twitter, or you can reach out to us at F. F. O. T. podcast gmail.com. So you're saying you gotta leave a review and then screen shot at screen shot and send it to us. Send it to US email, F., F., O., T., podcast gmail.com and twitter F. F.. O. T. PODCAST GOT IT by July. Thirty first YEP that's a Friday. We only got about two weeks to go, but make sure that you're. You're getting in a ace. Because this is filling up, should be a fun league. First Time I think the three of us have played in a league together. I'm guessing I'm not GONNA GET DJ. More or Kenyan drake depends. If you take him, early might get both wound. Okay, talking one to probably turn. You need need to take both those guys if you want him, but if you're still thinking Damian Williams oversee h, you'll probably get him. Yeah, probably not. Tyler, you get any trivia for us. I have five trivia questions. Let me complete. The Question Boston with your name Oh. Sure type thing. Okay, okay last, let's do it. Let's see if Matt can get his eighth win or Jake can get his fifth win I. Think Manny's just get a little redemption. He got shut out last game last last time the best around Jake's career but I think we're at ten and four total, so we are at ten and forty still. Shoal record, ready ready, let's do it. Right so no rhyme or reason to this just in football trivia I question who's the only wide receiver NFL history who finished with a season with more than one hundred catches while failing to reach a thousand receiving yards. Matt Julia Nederland. A teams and crowder while. We get to more than one. Guess sure you can have guesses. Jarvis Landry. He's back I remember that Actually Twenty Sixteen I was stuck is going back and forth between element and Landry wanted that will more guess twenty, seventeen, hundred and twelve passes and nine hundred and eighty seven yards. He's back. Yes, back out on the board. Good job next question, not counting Hawaii and Alaska what are the only two states that aren't home to an NFL franchise and also don't border eight. That is home to an NFL franchise. Jake Montana. Jake main. Geography. Homing but I needed to think about that. I would not have gotten main off the top. Wasn't What Wyoming was not the answer, yes. To Jake way now. That was only one question Jake got. It's one to one. No, because if you'd have gotten one of those. Point Yeah. Whatever we can do to favor Jake Yup pretty much. What is the only current NFL team? That has neither hosted nor played in Super Bowl. Jake Matt. It's on Jake Jacksonville while. Lions. while. Either hosted or played in Super Bowl. That is correct Matt Texans. Last shot here. Jake I got nothin' The answer is Cleveland sure. Last, team I would have thought of should figure that right away. Dumpster fire at question for what did the following four quarterbacks have in common. Kurt Warner Steve Young Warren Moon Jim Zone Matt. They were all analysts at one point. I mean they could have been an. Looking for Jake led the league in passing yards close. Wrong! None of them were selected in the NFL draft, but finished best fantasy stats at the quarterback for one year. Oh sure. They're all under UNDRAFTED, all undrafted. Darn it. That was my other gas, but I didn't I thought Steve Young was for some reason, but all right last question here two-to-one Jake Jake one question, but I got two parts of that question, right? To only when you favor them when you shut in. Russell. Wilson has been sacked at least forty times seven years in a row. Who is the other active quarterback who, at one point in his career took forty sacks in four straight seasons, Matt Cam, Newton while. Royale Jake Big Ben Rothlisberger. Any takes on the W with no asterix whatsoever. Feel better that you got that. Right that wraps up Trivia. It is now five. Wins for Jake and Matt with dominating with ten ten and five, two hundred although Jake. You're getting on a hot streak. That's what we call a winning streak. It'll end next week if you get to three, you're on. Fire is heating up. That's true. We're GONNA have to get tyler one of these you know he. He puts together the Trivia every week, but I think he needs I. Am so dumb when it comes to. Your Trivia today was solid. I, like I like those types of questions that fourth question. They probably were all analysts, but that wasn't what I. Don't know. Jim Zoran was what the other ones were sure. We'll give you half a point. Four counts in your book. You'll give you a point nine the way you look at it Jake I at one point for each one of them so I would get three four actually well, then if you did the passing yards, leader will, and I'd get a couple points in there, so yeah, in which pretty much a wash. You got that question. Just move on, you guys. Can semantics this all day all right, so let's move on to the actual episode here. We are doing our deep sleeper. D-. What constitutes a deep sleeper, do you? What constitutes a deep sleeper is if they were drafted after round ten so ultimately after pick one hundred and twenty, so anybody's ADP that we think has potential breakout going after pick one twenty, and we took the ADP OF ESPN just as most people utilize ESPN. Four ADP ADP is might be different on other sites for sure will be. Be Different on other sides. We did the ADP at one twenty basis Matt could not talk about Miekel hardman again I could absolutely talk about Michael Hard means going in the fifties, but I actually promised myself that I would not go hardman or Madison. Because I've talked about him on half the episodes, but just know that I would put both of them in this if I had. On. ESPN is one fifty and on sleeper. He's going ten thrown. Yep, what a difference! A site can make, so it shouldn't say there's nothing to do with their performance on the field so correct. Who wants to go I? I WILL START I'll start. No, I will all right. You can search all right I'm GonNa Start With Zach Moss intriguing. Yeah, running back for the buffalo bills. Where's he going? He's going as RB. Forty one currently ADP of one twenty four meets our criteria here and I bring up. Zach Moss because of Frank Gore leaving the last year. Frank Gore had eleven attempts from inside the five. He got two touchdowns out. Those eleven attempts his eleven attempts for actually sixty one percent of the team carries from inside the five single Terry only had two I think that was eleven percent. The rest went to Josh, Allen Single head to Russia Times clearly. They don't think he is going to be a goal line back. If you don't know goal line carries are very very good for fantasy football. They are very good I almost. Almost three varies on it very very very good. I'm big on that. Take I like Zach Masa Lot I'm not huge on Devon single. Terry I think, Moss says a lot of potential. He's the younger version of the Frank Gore. Yes, absolutely, so he walks into the frank. Gore role huge opportunity for him. Especially you know speaking. He actually could become the workhorse back, and they could use single terry as the role player, which everyone thinks Zach Moss will be the role player right now, but there's nothing that that that role can't. Can't switch at all so I like Zach, moss a lot especially at his ADP. Obviously, so it's really funny, because that was one of my deep sleepers as well and yeah, he's GonNa hop right into the frank, Gore Role Franco, touch the ball, a hundred and sixty six times last year in Zach Moss can do that. We know a single. Terry can't hold onto the ball. Moss is going to be I mean he has flex upside just on his touchdown. He gets that same amount of goal. Line carries the reason why I like. Like Ma so much is, it costs you nothing to draft him and get a piece of the rookie running backs. You don't have to pay a second round. Pick for Clyde Edwards layer third round pick for Jonathan Taylor for thrown swift sixth-round for JK Dobbins. You get a really cheap piece to potentially some pretty nice upside, and have some value for your flex. Yeah, speaking out of value out of all the rookie running backs I think moss has the best potential to break out in win a league based off of ADP so. So, he's basically a a flyer in the eleventh round right now and single terry where to go down man. All the sudden Zach Moss turns into a probably a high rb to sell lot to like. He had a productive college career. He's a strong powerful running back and he's got a lot of potential to step in and get playing time right away. Yeah Matt Give us a when you're sleepers here so I'm going to go in order of mind, the lowest that I have is an ADP of one twenty three, so they're barely. Barely fitting into this criteria, but I would draft them much earlier than pick one twenty-three in its deontay Johnson wide receiver of the Pittsburgh steelers so like I said he's currently going at pick one hundred and twenty three, he was a part time player as a rookie in two thousand nineteen, and he still finished his wide receiver thirty nine, so he was a high wide receiver. Four get fifty nine interceptions, six hundred eighty yards and five touchdowns. He led the team in receptions, targets and touchdown receptions. The offense was terrible in the. The quarterback play was even worse. Pittsburgh finished thirty first and passing yards only Washington was worse so for him to still be able to finish wide receiver thirty nine without big. Ben Is absolutely incredible. He finished six games over five or more receptions. Juju had two games with over five receptions Big Ben is back. He supposedly healthy in think when big. Ben Is Healthy, Brown and Juju both dominated. There's nothing to say that that both of them couldn't have a lot of value in this offense big. Ben Has proven that he can support. Support more than one wide receiver for fantasy purposes. He isn't obviously per keep your eye on and twenty twenty and right now around eleven. Is Criminal Deontay Johnson Yeah like he'd taken moss or Johnson. And now you're going to say it depends, but let's say your team has five running backs for white receivers. A quarterback I'm probably going Deontay Johnson, but I really liked both of them in especially, if able to one of them in the tenth round, and then the other in the eleventh I would do that Jake. I'm going Moss. Out The running back scarcer position. You feel wide receiver. It is definitely a scarcer position, but like Deonte Johnson. If big. Ben Can stay. Healthy I realistically him being Thousand Yard Wide. Receiver I, think it's completely plausible. Look at what he did last year when he had cottages and Mason Rudolph still was just shy of seven hundred yards, and that was as a part time player, I think he has potential to ball out in twenty twenty. Yeah, I like to take extra, or do you mind if I take one more here before you since. Since stories AC MA steak. I promise I won't take this I. Bet you don't have this guy. We'll see all right I actually wanted to go because one of my sleepers is Big Ben Roethlisberger. So I think that ties into your Deontay Johnson take here. It's fitting big. Ben Is currently going qb sixteen, Eighty P, one, fifty, two, criminal, absolutely criminal, but there's no big. Ben Actually throws for more than five hundred pass attempts in a season. He averages four thousand yards and twenty eight touchdowns. Yeah, I knew that actually good good for you. You your. Big Ben Research then before today's Today's episode, but yeah I mean if you could tell me you're getting four thousand yards, twenty eight touchdowns almost guaranteed. He's GonNa Throw from one five hundred times. Let's be real back that it's unreal value as the second to last pick in the draft I've taken that all day why we wait on quarterback a little, just a little bit, and you said what four thousand yards like in two thousand eighteen. He threw for over fifty one hundred yards. So that's his average is four thousand year. That's. That's on the low end I mean. There's potential that he can throw up to forty five forty, six forty seven hundred yards this year if he can stay healthy easily. Yeah, not even where I just took have rich number, and that was four thousand yards, because he had an outlier season two as one of his first year, three through five hundred and two attempts, but only had thirty or thirty eight hundred yards. So it's why we get that number, but yeah if you can give me that in the second pick in the draft. Draft I'm taking a Qb all day. It's just injury with age. Combined is what's dropping Big Ben, but yeah, if he can stay healthy, he could be a beast I. Really want him to be healthy. Absolutely like watching good football players play football. Yeah, and he plays with massive heart, and just he's pretty I, mean for being injured a bit. He's a pretty tough cookie. I think that leads right into kind of my next sleeper and I. Actually didn't ever think I would even look at this player, but he's gone ADP one sixty six. Six drew lock weird on the Guy Actually brought him up in our AFC west episode. As a potential, you might have at this ADP it's free huge potential upside if he fails, it fails you cut them that Pat Shurmur offense is gonna be potent last year. He had no offense of weapons this year. They add Jerry Judy K. J Hamblur Melvin Gordon. On top of Portland, son Noah fant Fella Lindsey. Last year he started five games only he went four and one, and the only loss went to the chiefs Yasser had one solid game. Game where he threw for three hundred yards and three touchdowns at this ADP, he has huge potential. He did have one big game, but the the four games that didn't mention he only had twenty completions, and he threw for two hundred yards each of them. It's four games. It's only half the offense and a completely different offensive coordinator Yeah Pat Shurmur is actually has a long history of being a good offensive coordinator for offenses so I like the move I think. I brought it up in an early episode I. Think he has the potential. Potential to break out for sure, but like you said he could be awful, but he's the last picnic draft. So who cares you probably cutting them? If he doesn't do anything for somebody on the waiver wire, so yeah, he was solid at Missouri to and he's got a ton of weapons, so yeah, there's definitely potential there, but in his limited action. He was not very good last year, so it's just banking that he will take a step which is entirely possible. You're forgetting you. WHAT THE BIGGEST WEAPON! They drafted also from Missouri Albert. That's all. I'm going to say I don't know how to say his last name. I purposely forgot about him. But if Jerry Judy has good as everybody says he is on top of Kirtland something like we have no fan being solid tight end Caja Hamlin's air to. They had a good running game. So yeah, there's definitely lots of like you know. What last year they're wide receiver to was to Sean Hamilton. Yeah did Sean Hamilton. There's definitely a lot to like, but it's only fair that you call out the negatives that so. So that's why I bring up five four or five games under two hundred yards passing last year war shingle Matt. Who is your next sleeper? So in our last episode Jake made a comment that I thought was interesting, and it was around. How a head coach feels about his running back. This player that I'm going to talk about Ron Rivera actually compared to Christian McCaffrey and that is in Tonio Gibson that's just an outlandish take on Rhonda's part. Part, but I'd like it so Antonio. Gibson is currently going to pick one sixty four, which is at the end of the draft were talking the Fifteenth Sixteenth Round. The redskins selected Antonio Gibson with the sixty six pick in April's draft. He's currently going off the board as running back fifty, he's more of an offensive weapon than a running back or a wide receiver. He has the skill sets of both these kind of a combination of both of. Of them. He's a phenomenal athlete. He has a combination of size, speed and elusiveness, six foot, two hundred and thirty pounds, but he runs a four point three forty. He averaged eight point four yards per carry and thirteen yards per target in two thousand nineteen. There's a lot of pros. The biggest pro is his path to playing time. McLaren hardly make up the best one to receiver punch in the League when it comes to running backs, we. We know about Darius guys. Injury History AP is thirty five, and he's not even a lock to necessarily make the team this year, which is kind of crazy, but then you got jd mckissick, who is a non factor Washington is terrible going to be playing from behind early and often they're always going to have to throw the ball in guys in AP. Don't even catch the ball to begin with so his combination of being kind of this hybrid. Hybrid running back wide receiver will get him on the field at either the running back or the wide receiver position in. There's a lot of potential for him to actually make a name for himself. I think JD mckissick. They've come out and said he's the third down back, so he's going to definitely be relevant, but yeah. I definitely like it. I don't know there's seventeen more running backs on this route that you didn't even bring up like. Like were they get? They signed Pete and Barbara. They have Bryce love yet. Like Arnold at six running backs. We just mentioned in this last minutes, but he's also a hybrid wide receiver. Man Like that's what I love. You can play wide receiver so the Condo for sure is his inexperience. In his two years at Memphis, he only recorded thirty. Three carries and sixty six targets, so there is a lot of risk with them. No one knows if. If? He's even going to be any good, but there's a lot to like about them. Especially when you're talking about round fifteen sixteen, where your opponents drafting their third quarterback or their second defense or second kicker like go out and get a guy that will give you potential to actually make a name for himself command play in a league. Where people are drafting their third quarterback, second defense and second kicker you playing with people are doing invites. You guys have never been in a league where someone's taken to kickers. No, Kickers defenses happen. I've definitely been I. Mean I've been in thousands of leagues in my life and I've seen it. All is Mitch Kahle the the Guilty Party in that CAL's definitely done. It's not just him. There's a lot of people that do stupid stuff like that Jake. Who is your next leaper? I'll actually piggyback on the The Washington redskins here and You did mention him in Tony, oh no, not at all Steven Sims actually. Oh! He's going undrafted. I would assume all but a lack for that wide receiver to position. They're in in Washington I. Know Antonio, Gandhi Golden is getting some high, but they're gonNA. Take the more experienced Guy Stevenson's blew up last year. At the end of the season. He had four of his receiving touchdowns last four weeks of the season. There's over one hundred vacated targets from last year in this offense, believe it or not. They didn't even throw the ball that much, but they're still one hundred vacated targets. I'll go into scary. Scary Terry he's going to have two hundred and thirty. Two hundred twenty pass targets his going his way no, but it's unbelievable actually how much targets available and their offense is going to take a step forward. It can't get worse. They ran under nine hundred plays last year at is unheard of the NFL basically the variances bought a thousand thousand. Some changes like typical what an offense runs! They ran under nine hundred. It's just terrible. Unbelievable helmet health few plays. They ran last year. I don't think sims is ever going. Going to break out and be like a weekly starter by any means I'm thinking, you can play him in the right scenario, big boomer bus player. He could do nothing, but he could also get you twenty to thirty point, so he's more of a streamer I like it. I called out Simpson the NFC east like you said he came out of nowhere at the end of the year in this final three games, he had sixteen receptions, hundred ninety yards, and four touchdowns and I. Don't think anyone that's in the playoffs started. started him, but that was right during the playoff time, so he's definitely got some potential that we just need Haskins to be better like he was not good. Washington was dead last in passing yards last year. You'd like to see that. Move Up to at least the twenties. Yeah, and actually I signed other stat here of the last twelve teams that have thrown for under four hundred and fifty pass attempts, eleven of those teams of actually improved by more than sixty three pass attempts the next year. Zero a big jump sure. It's just a weird stat that I saw it. That's a big jump. Yeah, it is, and then you take in the hundred vacated targets to last year like they almost over correct yeah and new coaching regime to so Rana virus coming in tough to even look at any stats when offensive coordinator's head coaches change because they I mean it's the same thing with like Stansky and the browns. They could have two hundred peasant attempts. Attempts Carolina ran the fifth most players the year before with Ron Rivera, so yeah could see a huge jump in Washington's offense pressure. Not really because they're so bad, you'll see more. I am going to go pretty deep here. What the wide receiver and I think most people are on Pittman Junior, but he's gone a little bit higher than I like he's going much higher than my deeper Paris Campbell I was GonNa Guess. Yeah now was pretty obvious it was it was, but yeah. I think a lot of people are on Pittman Junior. They're like that funny or that. Shiny fresh object and offer, Campbell just because of injury concern, the Indianapolis receiving game is going to definitely pick up this year with Philip rivers. Coming in might not be the biggest upgrade, but rivers is used to throw in bombs and Paris. Campbell is definitely that speedster Hilton is aging, and it's really up to Cambo or pittman junior this year and pitman juniors. Juniors gone before you WanNa, take him take a shot on Campbell was high, highly regarded. Last year was a deep sleeper last year, but all the injuries he didn't show much in his seven games that he played, but I just really think he didn't get the targets, and at this point he could be that wide receiver to there yeah I. Think a lot of people kind of forget about players. That were sleepers just a season ago. If they don't perform last year like you said Dude, he had the. The worst injury luck I've ever seen last year yet. Fractured ribs fractured hand, and he fractured his foot all in the same season on top of ruining his hamstring in preseason. Yeah, and then you would come back from an injury, and then one of those things would happen like he just couldn't catch a break. He couldn't get any rhythm or consistency, but he was a really popular over breakout rookie candidate. Pick going into the season last year. If he can be healthy, he's got a ton of potential like. Like to call out. I mean those seven games that he played. You should actually take with an asterix because he played like two downs would get and leave, so I think he want to equate his actual playing time. It was like one game his full snap Count Matt. What is your last deep sleeper here yet? My third and final is going at pick one hundred, sixty nine. He's currently going as rb. Fifty six guys have any guesses Adrian Peterson. No, he played a total five snaps and twenty nineteen. Stands Five Foot, ten inches, two hundred and sixteen pounds. That's not helpful when he played lives now it's Damian Harris New England. Patriots running back like it. He lacks top end speed four point five seven forty yard dash so. Whether running back, but what I like about him is the power he brings. He's downhill runner, which is important especially with bill belichick. He doesn't like the guys at dance around. He likes the guys that go straight through the whole, but most importantly he had zero fumbles and twenty eighteen, so his final season ecology didn't drop the ball a single time. That is extremely important in a bill belichick offense the second. You drop the ball especially when you haven't proven yourself, you are in the doghouse. So I, really really. Really like his potential this year he's a solid pass, catcher and blocker. He's a potential three down back. He's currently buried on the depth chart behind Sony Michelle James White Rex Burkhead, and Brandon Bolden, but one injury, and all of a sudden we're talking a completely different story here, also in my opinion, birkhead and or non factors coming into this season, and then if Michelle or white gets injured. I literally see him stepping into their role, so if Michelle goes down, I see him potentially being a twenty running. Running a twenty attempts guy a week, and if white goes down I, see him being a guy that could potentially have ten targets in a week, so there's a lot to like about an ESPEC- with him going at the very end of the draft. Just Duda has pass catching and running abilities the very lasting I'm going to say on them. Is that Sony Michelle only has one more season under contract and then James? White is a free agent after this year. So if you're in like keeper, dynasty formats bump. Bump Harris up because he's got a shot at becoming something. Especially going into next year isn't Sony Michelle dangerous have surgery so I mean he's already engineered. Already injured so Michelle just wakes up injured like if I compare my own personal injury history to anybody at Sony Michelle because we just wakeup injured with a new injury that we didn't even know existed I'd view you more dairies case. No, don't ever say that again I. Think the thing that you said and I forgot if it was fantasy, pros or Talked about bringing on here is with running back. Don't pay attention to forty speeds. It doesn't matter you need agility. You need nine cone. Yeah, that four five seven forty is actually faster than cream on cluttered dealer like not bad. You know in that and the standards, but wide receiver forty all day running back. It's getting to those gaps quick. Yeah, it depends what else bring to the table. Yeah, for sure well. Yeah, I like it and especially getting a super cheap piece of a team that I predict to Ron a lot more than past Jackie sleeper. Yeah I got one more here. The barely constitute as a as a sleeper by our standards here of the ADP of one twenty, but it's Christian Kirk. He's currently going as wide receiver forty, five, eighty, one to thirty, so he meets the criteria. Big reason for that is actually deandre hopkins coming to town. He's GonNa. Take that number one coverage. He is GonNa be the focal point. That's GONNA. Leave the underneath routes wide open for Christian Kirk. That's what he does. He plays out of the slot last year he was. was actually on page one hundred thirty two targets, but he missed three games due to an injury. You know he He already had a big workload basically last year Hopkins just GonNa. Help that you know exactly a red zone target, so he's GonNa. Make his his noise with volume with targets receptions in the middle of the field, but I actually I see Arizona playing a lot more on offense, so they actually ran the fourth quickest pace of play meaning that they want to have a lot of plays ran, but But they actually ranked twenty first and total plays ran because their defense was so bad. They couldn't get on the field defense. Take a step forward. Offense should also take a step forward means more plays for that offense more targets for Christian Kirk so I like it where he's going to like he has dropped way down sends Diop Gum. If hop is there, where do you think he's going is probably wide receiver twenty four? Yeah, if he's the number one option Arizona without he's, he's pushing way way higher rounds but get. Get them at the discount. You can yeah for where he's gone. He's a steel in the twelfth around. I think he's a lock to kind of drop some of his production. Just because Hopkins is GonNa be there, but hopefully he can make more of the targets. Eddie is getting only had three touchdowns last year, so there's a lot to like about Christian Kirk him being out of the slot, and he's not going to go up against the top cornerbacks like he was last year, and it's never going to be doubled. Fun Fact. He also scored three touchdowns in one game. Fun Facts Jake now he's. been hit with a fun fact, Matt for Awhile. It's been like one episode. Blackens also scored three touchdowns in one game. Quite a bit one a lot of fantasy games with that one he did, and he did not do anything else. The rest of the year co what are over thought or thoughts of deep sleepers, hopeless names that you guys weren't thinking about their now on your radar couple of positions, too. We didn't cover the tight end because Johnny Smith is our deep sleeper I. Think we all have a consensus on that one. Yeah, we've talked about the tight. Tight end position quite a bit and we talked about a lot of certain players quite a bit too like mickle, Hardman and Alexander Madison for example for me, so we all kind of committed to talking about different players that we don't bring up on a regular basis that we still see a lot of potential in the big thing for me when you're thinking deep sleepers is there's no investment here. Take a guy like who you think has great upside. Upside has a high ceiling because probably week two three four. You're going to dump them for that huge waiver wire pick. There is no investment taking somebody in round fourteen. Yeah, hopefully, they'll take away from. This is just a couple. You know key points to to take away and say you know what I. Actually have a reason to draft sky. Instead of just saying you know what let's close my eyes and throw a dart and see what happens. Let's pick. Pick a defense and Ron Twelve. Yeah, exactly what Jake said don't just pick a player to pick a player like do some research and find a player that has a path to potential carries or target in the event of one injury, and then if you can find a team where there's certain players that get injured on a regular basis, like obviously kind of goes without saying that it's good to target those backups so like the Antonio Gibson for example. Example. There's a lot to like about it. 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Rivera Hasn't Talked To Trent Yet?

The Kevin Sheehan Show

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Rivera Hasn't Talked To Trent Yet?

"You want it you need it. It's what everyone's talking about the Kevin Sheehan show. Now here's Kevin. You're listening the sports fix all right. I'm here errands here. Tommy joining us by phone. You don't feel well today you okay. Yeah I got a cold at a cough. But I'm fighting it off the key to it's manageable. Did you get did you get your you got your flu shot yet. But you didn't I didn't I feel feel great. Good feel great. Knock on wood. I wish I came in and out so I could get you sick. Yeah I'm sure real quickly for everybody. Listening we will not be doing a podcast tomorrow. Thursday and Friday And then Monday I am actually taking some time came off I've got a niece getting married out in Park City Utah and we are heading out there Tomorrow night and we won't be doing a show tomorrow Thursday Friday or money and just giving everybody a heads up on that all right no show for a few days were through the super bowl take a deep breath. We got wild ago before free agency in the draft. And you know. I'm sure we'll be in here breaking down the indy combine numbers in a few weeks. which I don't WanNa they do? Actually I'm but anyway just to tell everybody that Tommy was not on the show yesterday because it was Monday. I did want to get your thoughts on the Super Bowl. The start well I thought it was a good game. I thought it was. You know fun to watch I never thought that the chiefs we're really out of it and we're going to lose. I just I mean because I've always operated under the assumption that If there's any time amount of clock. The chiefs can consist score so quickly no matter how good the forty niners defense is So I owe. It was almost like you know When you're watching a boxing match and you know a guy in the late around is is is is GonNa win them championship rounds they call them? Chiefs are very good at that. I mean all three of their playoff win where we're come back with Over Houston Houston over He had to say and In the Super Bowl so I just have ultimate base in Patna homes Like Eddie re does and like his receivers do. It's teammates do they. He's GonNa find a way to bring the back. SORTA like Russell Wilson you know in the early years of Russell Wilson and still to this day to some extent It wasn't Kyle Shanahan dance finest moment. I don't think he was public enemy number one way to came to bad coaching decisions. I think he made some mistakes. But I mean you know people just love to vilify Kyle. Wow as you know. They just couldn't wait to say. What a Lousy Elsie coach he was you know I mean? This guy's wanted a best coaches in the F. L. and it's not even close and you l. e. he made some strategic stakes in terms of strategy at the end of the first half Particular maybe not push but he had how he wasn't like he didn't know what was what he was doing. He had a strategy. It just turned out to be wrong. One yes yes so Gil Brandt the longtime Dallas cowboys. General manager the architect of those cowboy teams of the seventies and eighties in particular early eighties. Early to mid eighties He tweeted out. I think it was late Sunday night or early yesterday. Quote wrote seriously. We're GONNA blame that Lawson Kyle Shanahan. Come on man if you pulled the general manager of all thirty two. NFL teams and ask them who they'd rather have their current coach. Or Kyle Shanahan. My guess is that no less than seventy five percent would swap without batting an eye. It wasn't wasn't the play calling That was from Gil Brandt. And you're you know I think that Kyle I don't know I think part of what we ah Kyle bashing that we hear is part in part because of what happened in Super Bowl fifty one and then we hear it a little bit more around here Because there are some the people that still blame Kyle and Mike for RG threes demise. which is Eric but you know one of the things? I found interesting yesterday and listening in watching a lot of things is people kept referring to Kyle Shanahan. Losing two super bowls is a head coach and they actually put up. Kyle Shanahan now. In two super bowls. Goals has allowed four twenty five and twenty one point forty six to nothing. He's his teams have been outscored in the fourth quarter and I was screaming like a hello. He was not the head. Coach of the Atlanta Falcons for Super Bowl fifty one he was the offensive coordinator. Dan Quinn was the head coach. Dan Quinn like like like they had nothing to do with that law. Exactly now. I mentioned this yesterday over and over again the error that was committed in super trouble fifty one is not comparable to the perceived errors of Sunday. that was a massive. You know game clock score management the era they were in chip shot field goal range for an eleven point lead with three minutes to go in the Super Bowl and they dropped Matt Ryan Back and he got sacked act for twelve yards and then they dropped him back again and there was a holding penalty and they couldn't get ca field goal. Like you have to. You have to understand that spot. We kick a field goal. It's pretty much game over. Let's run the ball twice now part of that. Everybody blames Kyle. He was not the head coach. Dan Quinn was the head coach. Dan Quinn should've said when he. I heard that he was going to call a pass play. No you're not you're not. You're not throwing the football and the head coach. We're running it twice and we're kicking a field goal. That's taken eleven point lead. That's how we're doing this thing here. So part of that should have been on. Quinn Sunday's errors I you know I. I think he wasn't aggressive enough. In the first half I think he was not I think e up twenty two seventeen after five and a half yard first-round a first down run. They should've done what they did really. Well which is run the football but none of those things are comparable to what happened in Super Bowl. Fifty one and I agree with Gil Brandt. I don't know if it seventy five percent or eighty five percent were sixty eighty five percent but the average is probably around seventy five percent. I do think three three fourths of NFL teams would probably swap out their head coach for Kyle in a New York. Second I can look at Charley casserly said the same thing he said to save dependence on. Kyle Shanahan I. It's it's ridiculous but but you know people just He's people to start well particularly here in Washington. Obviously they really don't like them. There's there's a perception that he's that's coaches Saad and You know or on third base as a result I mean th there's no recognition of his brilliant As a head coach. I've heard I've heard. Not Not only is he obviously smart play car. He has a great relationship. I've been told with his players players really like him. You know a AH. You didn't hear a lot of grousing after the game about what went wrong on the sideline From the coaching staff from from the players on that forty nine or save and so I mean I could coach my football team any day of the week. Yeah mine is well Mine as well. I mean it's it's it's it's such a joke you know. Because how they're thirty other teams that would love to have been In the Super Bowl in the fourth quarter with a twenty two ten lead with nine minutes to go in the game on Sunday and the reason that they were there are lot there. Lots of reasons but number one is they're very well coached in they have been in and But at the same time I I can say I simultaneously people. I always struggle. Why people struggle with this I can say I think Kyle Shanahan a really good coach and I would take him tomorrow and then also say I think he made a mistake or two in the game on Sunday? You know what don't tell it. Bill Belichick makes mistakes That's happened before two. I'm not comparing to bellichik not yet anyway. And what's interesting is people really. I mean to second person. People ragged on was Jimmy Garoppolo and now. He's a an average quarterback at best. I think that's true. Well if that's the case how that had really is a hell of a coat right. Well I hope he's got the Super Bowl with Basically you know an average quarterback I think he is a look. Look I think that Jimmy Garoppolo There things about his game that I liked their things that I don't like But I think he's you know he's somewhere somewhere in the middle in a best case somewhere in the middle But they had an exceptional defense and an exceptional running game. And really I think Jimmy Garoppolo performed at the level that he performed at this year. which at times was exceptional because of their scheme you know and the and their ability to oh to run the ball because really every Shanahan scheme has always been a successful only if they ran the ball successfully which they always seem to do? Well UNBE Garoppolo Rappalo GRUPP. We'll had a decent year. He threw twenty seven touchdown passes thirteen picks through for nearly four thousand yards. You know he didn't have a terrible year but a lot of that was off the play action off the zone scheme which is what they were succeeding out on Sunday too. So you know I. I mentioned this as far as the end of the first half goes I think if kyle it said look they're punting from midfield. We're going to get the ball the start the second half. I don't WanNA give it back to mahomes. Our offense is predicated indicated on being balanced. It's hard to go ninety five yards or ninety yards just throwing the football I it's hard to be balanced in a minute and a half. You got really throw the football all and I thought they were GONNA punish US inside the ten and that he didn't say that necessarily said some of that and then on the second five throw if it said look. We've we've gotten to where we'd gotten to by running the ball and running early downplay action and Jimmy did. He was ten for twelve. I think before that particular throw in play action throw so whatever Again not nearly what happened in Super Bowl fifty one but I can nitpick and not be wrong On some of this stuff either So I I was going to I was GONNA add to the Super Bowl conversation with this. He and this is something. I probably should have prepared you for but you'll be good off the cuff anyway in thinking of other examples so Patrick Mahomes just just completed basically his first two years of of being a starting quarterback Tommy. He's only twenty four years old. He started thirty seven or thirty thirty. Six I'm sorry Combined Regular Season Playoff Games now and you can make the case that he is already an all-time great he's gone from sort of future star to all time great quickly. He's got a regular season. MVP In his first two years of starting he's got a super bowl MVP in his first two two years of starting. You could argue that he would have had to. MVP's this year had he not missed games for an injury this year He has Played in five playoff off games. They've scored thirty or more points in all five of the playoff games. He's already got to his credit one of the all-time great comebacks in post. Oh season history. you start comparing him to other guys that are in the hall of fame or even a guy like Eli who people expect to be in the hall of fame. This guy has already already accomplished a ridiculous amount in the first two years seventy six touchdowns over ninety one hundred yards passing in the first two years he could autopilot the rest of his career. Have you know decent results but not win another big time award and be considered hall of fame. I'm worthy already my question to you and I posed this to callers on the radio show is think of other starts to an NFL career in particular that match this one. It's real. They're they're very hard to find. We found a couple of them but they're pretty hard to find. What what what? What what do you think of when you think of Mahomes is first two years I think a name I think it's shown Namus uh-huh who basically won the Super Bowl and his I think his third its third year third or fourth year in the NFL The most important super for Bowl Probably in history threw for four thousand yards It a fourteen game season. I think it is second or third year ear of the AFL And that that record stood for like forever fourteen or fifteen years until somebody maxed it. I think we stay at Southsea. Did so names comes to mind Gale sayers maybe comes to mind. You know Somebody like that I agree with you. I mean you know usually guy quarterbacks who have an NFL L. MVP on their resume and a super bowl MVP on their resume. They wind up in the hall of fame. Yeah I mean I agree with. AH BASICALLY ELISA five hundred career quarterback but he's got two Super Bowl rings in one super bowl. Mvp He's only two time pro bowler solar and people think he's going to be in the hall of fame so you came up with a couple of you know the name of thing is really interesting because the four one thousand yard season was such an outlier for the time. Now that was the that was an afl season as a NFL quarterback in nineteen sixty. Seven I've been playing in. AFL SCHEDULE PRE MERGER SUPER BOWL era. Yes on the beginning of the Super Bowl era but it such an outlier In terms terms of of of that thing I mean Dan fouts Dan fouts was really the first before Marino to start. Throwing for four thousand yards was just rarely done when Marino Marino to me is the comp and Kurt Warner is the other one and I'll tell you why in a moment on Kurt Warner Marino Marino. It's nineteen eighty-four season was basically a five thousand yard season forty eight touchdowns seventeen interceptions when no one or very few were. We're throwing for four thousand yards and he just went out and threw for five thousand yards a season. which by the way you know twenty six years later later is still? I'm sorry thirty. Six years later is still a top ten season all time like the other nine five thousand in yard plus See the the the other eleven. Excuse me five thousand Yard plus seasons have all been done since two thousand eleven. He did it in nineteen eighty four now fouts and those charger teams of the early eighties. fouts was the first guy to start going over. Four four thousand yards on a regular basis. No one else was doing it though back then. Nobody you know nobody was you. You really didn't get guys to go over four thousand on a regular basis until the ninety s let alone the eighties in marina win over five thousand yards Marino. Start to his career is comparable because his first first three seasons as a full time starter. He threw for four thousand yards and he threw for one hundred. Twenty two touchdown oss the obvious one. Yeah Marino's the obvious and the other one is Kurt Warner. If we're talking about quarterbacks Kurt Warner's first three years ears. Were off the charts you know first of all we know the story. He's bagging groceries at a High V.. Supermarket Niwa in Des Moines and Trent Green goes down in the preseason. And this is a guy that's played arena football league and he comes in in his first year. Starting in nineteen ninety nine he throws for forty three hundred yards forty-one touchdowns thirteen interceptions and wins the NFL MVP. I mean that's an unbelievable. Obviously unbelievable start to his career and Kurt Warner her in two of his first three years was the NFL MVP. You Know He. In two of his he won two regular season. MVP's a super double MVP and was a three time pro bowler pro bowler in his first. Three years of starting and was putting up God ridiculous. I mean numbers number. It was unbelievable. The numbers putting up Marino and Warner and then I'm GonNa give you one more Tommy Eric. dickerson's first two seasons in the NFL. All were all time. He rushed for eighteen hundred eight yards and eighteen touchdowns in his rookie year and then broke. OJ Simpson's record in his second second year in the NFL rushing two thousand one hundred and five yards and fourteen touchdowns like dickerson's first two years were off the charts off the charts. Incredible credible But I don't know I think we're watching a guy in mahomes that you can already say at this point barring a catastrophic career ending injury. He's basically basically a hall of Famer based on what he's done in his in his first two years. Yeah you're right. You're absolutely like I said I mean with those kind of awards awards on your resume And if you have An average NFL. Career the rest of the time. I mean it doesn't matter if you win them in the tenth year or the second or third year you know they still count so you're right his tickets a cat and is probably already punched unless he gets hurt mark. Jim Brown was the NFL. MVP is first two seasons. Like I almost feel like Jim. Brown gets disc gets eliminated from every conversation. Because everybody everybody already knows. He's the greatest football player in history of the sport out. Liar one outlier. He was Couple of things to get to Ron Rivera whenever you okay. I'M GONNA play this sound bite from Ron Rivera. From Larry Harry Michaels redskin nation show. Yesterday are left tackle. What's the health health trend? You know. We're getting ready and we're going to go through our process on on the tenth. We'll talk about it. We gotta get Trenton and we gotta sit down see where he is see how he is health wise too when we have not really had the contact. We need to have to know so until we know we've got but he still our guy okay so until we go through this process. We're not going to know where everybody fits. These are pieces to the puzzle that we've got to put together Do you find it strange. Strange that they that he and the organization that they haven't talked to Trent Williams. He's been. He's been the head coach for a month. Yes very strange. I would have thought that would have been one of the first phone calls. And he does not you know unless frogger various various doing the right thing and they don't really want to come back and they want to trade him but even if they want to do that they need to know how healthy opiates. They need to know what they've got to trade or maybe it's better they don't know how healthy is but anybody's GonNa make passing a physical condition. Yeah straight I would think. Yeah yes so I mean that's what I think should happen it. It was the smart thing to do before he went off on the organization and it was a smart thing to do when he went off on the organization. It's the smart thing to do now. You need to move on get what you can from. -Em don't be paying a thirty two year old tackle who can't stay healthy during the regular season a ridiculous amount of money. They need move on from him. Well I agree with that I do. I just find it a little bit odd. That Ron Rivera hasn't talked Trent Williams mhm set the they haven't reached out to find out. You know if there's any interest in coming back Dave Dave they don't have Donald Penn even under contract and the other Guy Christian you know based on what we've seen here in the first couple of years doesn't look like in elite left tackle by any stretch of the imagination they need the Ron Rivera. Thinks this is a quick turnaround and part of that is going to be. You know I would think contingent on a young quarterback playing. Well it'd be nice to have an actual left tackle. Donald Penn played well at times games last year. But you don't even know if you can bring him back. I just think it's strange and and I just the one fear I have with Rivera who well I am. I'm a fan of and was a fan of and I'm glad that the redskins hired him just too many Mr Snyder's too much potential as we've seen in the past of becoming enamored with the with the owner and with the size of the yacht and in spending time on the boat and getting caught up in all of that stuff and no call Trent Williams Call Lim. How hard can it be? Let's find out if we gotta left tackle. What are we waiting for I I? I'm not the trust me. I'm not turning In into a negative position I'm still bullish very bullish and I'm going to continue to be until games are played in probably a season or two are are played. I just know that that place. There's a shitload of arrogance as we know And there's already already some puffing out at a chest over the hiring of Ron Rivera and now on top of that. Is Ron going to become one of the guys is well. Is it going to be hanging out with the owner. He's going to be on the. I wanted to come in and slap the arrogance out of everybody in there and get rid of all of the people that you know that a lot of us in not fans have had to deal with over the years With a losing organization. Yes you know. I've told this story many times. You Know Super Bowl. Several years ago and key executives executives to the redskins are following. Scott Van Pelt around some you know event Super Bowl night event like like with their tongues hanging out trying to talk him into how great of a franchise and at one point he just turn around and say. Can you stop following me. And they're telling them how great he is and how you should come back to a game and he can sit with the owner in the whole thing and how they're going to be there you're gonNA have a great free agency shut up. I don't want Rivera caught up in all this bullshit and others others. Have you know over over time. Others have gotten caught up into all of it. And you know if you don't get caught up into your your usually on the outs pretty quickly. This is what I this is what I came up with the phrase the Ara of self-destruction. Why not building? You get consumed consumed by this this this spirit that this atmosphere that that turned smart men in the dummies at strongmen. In the weekly. Yeah that's what it is. I mean this is. I've I've called Redskins the the elephant graveyard of of the NFL. This is where career go to die. Smart people have walked in that building and left with their careers in tatters. Have we seen anything on Ron Rivera contract with the redskins in terms of I don't have we seen any dollar amount yet. I don't think we have right now. I don't think we have. We saw we saw that. It was a five year deal. We never saw any financial terms. I I believe right about that I could be wrong. Maybe we've had that sense I just chill out those of you. That are listening. That are getting upset here. Okay I'm a Ron Rivera Fan. I am all in on Rivera. I just when I heard that and I coupled that with all of the Mr Snider stuff in everything anything else. I'm like get to work. Brother get to work. Don't get caught up so many of you listening. have no idea no idea how bad added. It's been out there over the years. You've heard US talk about it and are there some things that we haven't really been able to talk about at times in some things it didn't make sense wants to talk about because we didn't know it for fact just heard it from multiple people. Eight is there's been a level of arrogance out there in the last ten years ears. You wouldn't believe and I'm hopeful that some of that is gone with Bruce Allen and that Ron Rivera is truly in this coach centric culture in this in this format is going to be able to slap all of it out of him and be humble and we're not going to talk about how great we are and we're not gonNA treat partners and vendors in different people in the same. We're this is going to be a different level of class of organization win or lose but I don't know call Trent Williams about that. You're right I mean about how bad it's been and that people don't realize it that's the one a barrel rules that if things looks bad from the outside here since owed their far work therefore worth inside and that has been the case in that building. It has been Quirk about my book dot. AG Super Bowls Overdone Media. You don't still bet if you're a better be careful tread lightly you don't get yourself into deep But if you want to wager on sports and you got the march madness coming up around the corner and you don't have a place to wager mybookie dot. Ag Use my Promo Code Kevin DC when you make your deposit and they'll match your deposit half way that's Kevin DC see at mybookie dot A. G. so Couple things real quickly The redskins odds for I talked about about this on the show yesterday and I wanted to get your thoughts on it. The redskins have been installed as one hundred fifty to one underdogs to make the Super Bowl. That's the thirty second Position Out of thirty two teams. They are the longest odds on the board. They also have according to sportsbook dot com the lowest win in Loss over under number at five and a half for the twenty twenty season so I got a lot of feedback to to mentioning this yesterday. Astrit yesterday and people are like wow. That's a huge opportunity. I mean you know people outside of this market aren't I don't get it. They've got a better roster. They got a good coaching staff. Haskins is GonNa be and so I so I would ask you the question and then I'll answer it afterwards. What are we missing that? The Vegas isn't all I know is I heard the same speech from people particularly people who cover the team last year. Where where throughout the national media and oddsmakers and people like that that people were talk about four twelve seasons for the redskins this year and everyone in Washington Scott that everyone is. DC thought. Well not everyone everyone but most people thought what a level disrespect team is going to be. Good there's no way that I didn't WanNa be good belt. You didn't like they're going to be I don't but we heard that we heard that from people who cover the team who thought how we take it was. It was that that people were figuring that the redskins would be so bad and here we are again the same story I mean. I don't know you know they saw result instead of this. Imagine potential. Aw of talent. I don't know how you could pick the redskins for anything but the bottom of the barrel. I don't well I do I I I disagree with you. Let me just say this. I think the number one reason it's not you know or of dysfunc- of dysfunction it's not the owner Eighties ladies that Vegas doesn't believe in Haskins. I think that's the number. One reason that the redskins odds are so long in that you know virtually every look ahead to twenty twenty twenty The two thousand twenty. NFL season is predicting that the Redskins won't be any good I think it's that most people outside of this market are not believers into Wayne Haskins. And that's fine I I. I am a bit of a believer in him being able to do it. You know maybe not at an elite level. But I think he's going to be more than than then then functional At the position. But I think that that's the number one reason why the odds are why they are This time around. I didn't feel this way last year. This time time around I will look at that over under number. I do think this is a roster capable of eight nate Capable seven nine. You know and you know eight nate means as you could be six and six you know in late November with a chance to compete for something in December I think they're good enough with good coaching. And I think they'll get. They'll be much better coached this year to be a much better team to make a big jump. I I don't think they're GONNA win the Super Bowl. I don't think they're going to be a playoff team. I don't think they're GONNA win the division circa or be a wildcard team. But I think there's a big jump ahead and I think there is this time around. I would actually agree with a lot of people. I think that they're being undervalued by by the oddsmakers Significantly undervalued actually. You you can. You can have your position and still recognize at that. The view of the Redskins from outside. Is it legitimate reasonable view you that they've earned. I know both things can be right. You could say I think there are undervalued but I certainly understand why everyone everyone's picking them at the bottom. Yeah I know. But that's not why they're at the bottom. They're not at the bottom because people think that this is just an organization that is a total mess because if that were true then you know teams in recent years like the browns would have thought the same way about them and they're they're coming off a very disappointing season after expectations in there at thirty two one. They're like in the top ten top twelve of Super Bowl Lod so so I think it's just I. I really believe that it's about Dwayne Haskins. I think that they look at it and say you've got to have the quarterback to make a legitimate run and they don't have the quarterback. I think they're going to be wrong. I don't know if they might might not be wrong about whether or not. He turns into a super bowl quarterback. But I think he's GonNa be better than than some people think but anyway And that's that you have a cup. I have a couple of things real quickly but you said you had something. Well let me ask you a question but if you read my column I haven't Reggie. I did not read your column up. Sorry I eat altitude twice. Who Tie you know okay? I'M GONNA have to have my ages Redo my contract here your big contract podcast. Yes that requires you revis. I read it a lot and I'm a fan of it. I didn't read it. I did not see I saw one email from you. I don't see to only the best thing that was written in this town in the past three day and it's not even close period it is brain injuries. Take shine off. NFL's week of GLITZ. This is the column. You're talking about the best column written in the last three days. Okay tell us about it. Okay what I you know. This is the celebration of football. The Super Bowl everyone comes up with the list of the top super bowl teams. You know the best have quarterbacks. Everyone's compiling their own lists. I came up with my list. The all-time brain-damaged Soup my i. Are you see this is what this is what you wrote about the all I'm brain-damaged Super Bowl Lester. NFL List no rain Davidge. It's super bowl like every I like position to pick pick a team of players who play him as a super bowl the suffer braids average. Oh my God look at this time He. Wow have you hold on before before you tell everybody. WHO's on this list? Have you gotten a reaction to this. Yeah I've got some not as much as I would have thought I've gotten some your all time brain-damaged Super Bowl team all right. Let's start it off offensively. Okay well I WANNA go through the whole list. We'll give us some highlights okay. Well any stay. I've got a quarterback back Stabler stable have see when he died of colon cancer The family asked if they could. Oh you know do a study of his brain and he was found to have significant. CT data all time favorite players. All right it was either hammer emmer. Jim McMahon McMahon has has talked about how he has memory loss and things like that. I put Kenny Saber on the list. Because he was a better quarterback running back. Tony Dorsett ask yourself how about. He has certain long term memory. Loss us Tomorrow Anderson who played for Atlanta Falcons in the Falcons Super Bowl has also been diagnosed with brain Davidge. Oppressing this is this is as depressing as the Google ad during the Super Bowl about memory loss in Donncha John mackey. Jackie lobbying. You know they're mackey. Plan is all based on on his dementia. The money's at the NFL and the NFL PA.. It comes up with to take care of players I got a tackle on there. A former cease tackle. They've jim tire. Okay Jim fire I think nine years after we've done playing shot his wife and then inside of self this is now I the all he was never diagnosed with rain Davidge so I took a leap of faith and I'll say that I'm pat night. He was suffers from some brain damage. And then that the list goes on Cherry this is. This is a cheery conversation. We're having right right now. Well it it. It's just a a dose of reality A- All all the super bowl you know basically. Here's Tommy Super Book or Z.. You know I'm the spoilsport. At the worse you are you are the spoilsport so You know it goes through on the defensive line the linebackers I mean. It's amazing. How many people on this this shot themselves or committed suicide This is that's junior. Say Al is on the list. Dave Doers Willie would just passed away yesterday the former packers Hall of fame safety Lived in DC was a DC native He had to mention the last ten or twelve years of his life. So Yeah it's Super Bowl team. That's great what made did you think of it. I mean was it was it. SHAQUIR and J.. Lo at halftime was it. Some of the commercials was that the excitement of the game the mahomes performance. The Nick boasts. What was it that made you sit there during the Super Bowl and say I'm going to create the all-time brain damage super bowl a roster? Well look I use my suitable column column to Basically take you behind inside baseball. I'm not I'm not at the Super Bowl. The Super Bowl has got to end at ten. Thirty Oh you know quarter to eleven too late for apprentice but they WANNA have a super bowl call in the paper. The next day that would would stand up no matter what happened in the game right. Well this one does 'cause they're all done. Yeah right so I usually come up with something and it's usually basically weekly pissing on everyone's court. I wrote one year one year. I wrote about interview Arse leasers wife Mitzi who has devoted her life to to re- rehabilitating gamblers that was a super bowl. Well I'd I'd like to read that one that's interesting had a front row seat for some real degenerate an activity. Yes he did And so no I did a call once with the I forget the guy's name was rod mixer. Whoever a former chargers offensive lineman who played for the redskins skids who basically suffered brain damage and couldn't get any Attention from the NFL Players Union when it came to disability help my super bowl com is usually this column right. I mean The one a couple of years ago what I wrote how radio row had basically become. Come you know this. This parade of Davits football body Being paraded through radio yeah breath. Thanks for brightening today. Okay but listen plea creative calls you have to admit I I right when you I mean I didn't. I opened it as you were starting to talk about it and I just saw that the title. The title didn't really describe what it was. It's it's it's it's you know what it's a really good column idea I. It's an attention getter. That's for sure it's a bit depressing. There's no doubt it's a bit grim But you know what it's a good segue actually into my next topic sort of I spent some time yesterday. Talking about Alex Smith's comments to Jeremy Shop on outside the lines. Did you see that. Then did you hear or read what Alex Smith said I did and what were your thoughts. My thoughts are up on the one who wrote he is seventeen surgeries so. I knew how bad off this is. His leg was did. I know it was about you know. It was on the verge of being amputated. I didn't know specifically that but I knew that they had to do everything they could to save it so I knew how bad off he was and which is why I just can't. I can't believe that he's going to be able to play no matter what he thinks I just. I can't wrap my arms around that thought. Yeah that's I mean and I I in sitting there and watching it and listening to him and listening to him talk about Sepsis in near death and then after are surviving and living to talk about the decision that he was faced with either amputation or limb. Salvage Surgery In choosing limb salvage surgery which is quite a drastic surgery to essentially. Save the leg. I just. He's not playing next year. He's never the playing football again nor should he nor should he. So you don't know what I I guess I look. I was there a less. I went through. What he it went through I? I can't understand it and I was not. I've never been a high level competitive athlete like Alex Smith is. So I don't understand the competitiveness of it per se but if it were main and I went through what he did I would just be happy it put one foot in front of the other for the rest of my life. I mean I think it's it's you know it's also in his situation with young kids and a wife. It's it's sort of a family ordeal to WHO in and I looked at competitive athlete. Part God I hope he gets into a position to be able to play to actually have a decision because that's what he's driving towards you know health like supreme health and sort of the ability to say look what I just accomplished in my comeback. But he he's not playing and and I just don't see that ever happening I can't see it as an organization them wanting him to play. And then you know brass tacks sort of you know putting the compassion Russian part aside and putting the business up front. He wasn't very good as a healthy thirty. Four year. Old here like if you're talking about football what's best for the organization and moving forward. is they try to make you know a turnaround. This franchise a thirty six year old. You know a hampered version Compromised sized version of what we saw two years. Ago Isn't the way to go Lastly I just wanted to write but go on Rivera on repair mentioned his great fancy get I know. I think that's part of his strategy to make sure dwayne knows that this isn't being handed to him. But then again Dwayne knows knows what what Alex went through. And if Alex is on the roster twenty-one million next year is a third string quarterback is a mentor to Duane Haskins. askins I mean everybody will cheer that and be happy for IT I. I don't ever think I don't think he'll ever stepped foot on the field last thing. And we're going to run for the day so bit of the shortened PODCAST we've covered a number a number of topics. Todd Mc Shays two point zero version mock draft is out and I just want to read to you. What what he wrote about chase young who he's got going second to the Redskins after Joe Borough Ghost Cincinnati one overall? He writes the following. This could be the the easiest pick on the board in considering the Redskins were tenth in the league with forty six sacks. It doesn't have much to do with a particular need. No this instead has has everything to do with this special talent of young who has one of the highest grades. I've ever given a player in two decades of scouting last year's number two. Pick taken former buckeyes teammate. Nick Bosa was a difference maker in year one but the scary truth is that young isn't even better prospect. He can line up opposite. Montas sweat defensive end or drop back into a three four outside linebacker roll. It doesn't matter. Young will be in the face of opposing quarterbacks. Every Sunday he led the nation with sixteen and a half sacks twenty nineteen and he missed two games by the way I just picked up on something he actually had madman. itis in this Breakdown before not Montas Sweat and I just realized why he changed it he he was thinking that mad. I and this was a defensive end. I was thinking when he said he can line up opposite. I was thinking he was saying lineup next to but whatever This is to me after watching nick. Bosa who I believe was the best player on the field on Sunday bar. None not that He's the best player in general mahomes. Is that but in terms of his performance. I thought Nick Nick Bosa stood out eleven pressures quarterback pressures if it had been a normal quarterback on Sunday he probably would have five or six sacks in the game but the quarterback wasn't normal but it didn't take away from Bose's performance formats which I thought was dominant in spectacular in every way shape and form if chase young is better than Bosa if he's equal. You don't even think about it. It's a no brainer. You take chase young. If he's there at number two. I would be concerned that Cincinnati says. He's the number one player on our board by a lot even though we need the quarterback chase young. But I think it's a no brainer in watching boats player. What if Miami comes with you and says we'll make an RG three type trade into including how high to number one pick from this year and and the number one pick back for for next year as well and two number twos the answer would be no if either valuated chase young as sort of the highest evaluation? I've had on a player in two decades. The answer would be with without even blinking. No I'm GonNa take the best player I've seen on the board in two decades. I'm GonNa take the player player that I think is better than Nick. Bosa who's already proved during his rookie season that he's an elite and elite. Game Wrecking Pass rusher. So yeah I I would i. I can't say you're wrong but I would tell anyone they're wrong to make that trade either. I don't think I don't think he's title. I would only tell them that. They're wrong. If they evaluated him in the same way that mcshea evaluating him if they have evaluated differently than they would be right now now to knows if they'll be right long term but in the moment if they think chase young is a is a really good player but not in a leap prospect. Then you you make the trade. But it'll depend on how they evaluate them if they evaluate them in the same way. Todd mcshay valuated him. You take him unless somebody's GonNa offer you five first-rounders and then you can make you an offer that you really can't refuse but it would take that All right we gotTA RUN TURPS tonight. Aaron are you going. I will not UPI going. You're not going now. I think I am going game. I think I am going even though I hate to seven o'clock games. I think I will be there tonight. Tommy are you going to Maryland Games on the Internet now. I was at the Iowa game which was pretty good game and they looked good. They looked really good They're ranked ninth in the country and rutgers fell out of the top twenty five but this should be a tough game although they are seven and a half point favorites which is encouraging I Tommy go feel better. Thanks for calling in Aaron the same have a great day EVERB- everybody Again off tomorrow Thursday Friday and Monday. I'll talk to you with Tommy next Tuesday.

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The Max Kellerman show is presented by ESPN. But also by Progressive Insurance, all guests join us on the Shell Pennzoil performance line. I remember when I was a kid I hearing. About ESPN. Seven or eight years old. And I was at my grandmother's house actually. And I, like what they got. They got a channel this just sports all the time. Too good to be true and back then it was all these weird sports that you know. They didn't have the rights for stuff and it was still I still watch it for sportscenter for the for the sports highlights. NFL package back then no NFL Games on ESPN back then it was still the best thing ever. Anyway I it's time for straight talk wireless. Brought to you. By Straight Talk Wireless. You realize that's what it says. Oh I. See it's time for straight talk brought to you by straight talk wireless Raj don't be ridiculous. The other way would just be silly. People are talking about the terrible call and it was a terrible call. I know like who has a lot of sympathy for? Bill Belichick all the calls he's gotten through the years. It seems like every close call goes to the Patriots but this was not a close call. It was obvious it was a turnover. Mahomes was not down when the ball came out, but they call them down when the ball came out, it wasn't reviewable and that's that and it's all at the time. It's a close game and it changed the whole complexion of the chiefs won by sixteen points. They didn't win by fueled goal. They won by more than two touchdowns. Have Changed. The whole complexion of the game whatever it didn't decide the outcome of the game. Now. Bella is great against everyone but including homes and that defense gave mahomes problems. Although the chiefs defense was also quite good. Let's face it like in the super bowl to the chiefs defense. Kept them right there in the Super Bowl. Kept the niners right right there and gave mahomes a chance to catch up. So actually the Kansas City defense played well. Not only when they won the super bowl but so far this year especially when it mattered. But I want to tell you something else. The. Yes, it seemed like the whole complexion of the game was changed when the rest blue that call. But again that she's won by two touchdowns and on I take today, we were talking about like do the chiefs look vulnerable does Kansas City look vulnerable I want people to understand. I'm taking Kansas City to as as the favorites to win the Super Bowl not the odds on favorites. I'm not giving them better odds than anyone I'm giving them better odds than everyone everyone else put together I think is under a fifty fifty proposition to win the super bowl because Kansas City exists I make them not the odds on favorite the art, the favorites against the entire field. So let's talk about Kansas City being trouble they were in trouble against the Patriots last night right? They want more than two touchdowns. Who else were they in trouble against? Because they beat the Ravens by two touchdowns. Dan Trouble Week one against the Texans maybe not but they were in trouble against San Diego San Diego chargers, right? Trouble against the chargers but they're undefeated and you know. Those kind of games against the Patriots against the chargers. Let's go back to last year. They were in trouble in their first playoff game last year, they showed vulnerability. In their first playoff game last year against the Texans, the Texans led by Shawn Watson. We're coming off a tight win against the bills are in ascending team with an ascending quarterback and a real tough defense. The Texans coming off that win jumped out to a twenty one nothing first quarter lead against the vulnerable chiefs. Chiefs beat them by twenty points. Fifty one up on them. and. The next week it was the titans oh those titans. They beat the Patriots they were rolling in Derrick Henry was rolling. The titans jumped out to a ten point lead first-quarter. I guess the chiefs will vulnerable and the chiefs came back and beat them. and. Then in the Super Bowl. The niners had a ten point fourth quarter lead. Mahomes. Came back and beat them. Called his own number drop back fifteen steph was thirteen, fourteen, fifteen step drop. The ball sixty art. Yeah, they have a lot of vulnerabilities the chief they were so vulnerable that they won the Super Bowl last year and they look like they did last year this year so far. Good luck. But it is true that Bill Belichick is beaten. Patrick Mahomes a couple of times maybe if he had Cam Newton yesterday. He to make Kansas City look even more vulnerable. What about that Patriots Defense made it difficult for you Patrick A lot of good veteran players, I think that's the first thing when you have good players and you do different schemes able to do that usually they're pretty good defense and and then as for for us I feel like Especially, me I didn't execute at a high enough level when you're playing against defense like that if you want to go out there has exists. Now Patrick Mahomes. The first time he was a starter in the NFL was the easy MVP choice with. If the touchdowns twelve interceptions first time he touches the ball fifty touchdowns, twelve interceptions, and then last your touchdown interception ratio got even better. What is it twenty six to four or something like that but the numbers weren't as Gaudy any win super bowl MVP he's super bowl MVP but this year so far four now even though they have a dominant win over Baltimore. People still have the top team. Even, though they just beat the Patriots like well, they didn't have Cam Newton. beating. A bill. Belichick team is an easy just to let you know without Tom Brady before Cam Newton. Bill Belichick one more than twice as much as he lost. With Matt Cassel. Jimmy G.. and. Amber set. One more than twice as much as he lost even if he doesn't have his starting quarterback and Cam Newton Belgium's not easy to beat. beated by more than two touchdowns, beat the Ravens by two touchdowns. By the way. If Tom Brady. Gets credit for, leading this miraculous comeback. Against the chargers does mahomes get credit for beating the chargers to Seems, like. He's had an MVP caliber year but after yesterday I don't think that most people are thinking about. MAHOMES FOR MVP. Think they're thinking about Aaron Rodgers for MVP maybe not like they're thinking about Russell Wilson but I think they should be. Rodgers threw for three, hundred, twenty, seven yards and four touchdowns. In a two touchdown win over the Falcons. Now I know it's the Falcons and they'll figure out ways to collapse but they didn't have to collapse against Rogers and yeah, their defenses whatever rogers didn't have anyone to throw to yesterday and he couldn't miss. He now has thirteen touchdowns and zero interceptions on the year. For A QBR at the quarter pole through four games. That is the highest. In the history of tracking Qbr so I'm not saying in NFL history we don't know, but it goes back to two thousand six. They have qbr stats on everyone starting in two, thousand, six on. And those fourteen years. This is the highest qbr pile through four games by an Rogers again, no first round picks throw to. No devante atoms. The highest QBR ever through four games to three on the list ESPN stats and info look sometimes and ESPN's guilty. This everyone is sometimes you can get swamped with stats and NEAT silver of. Eight DOT COM. Has. A book came out I. Don't know maybe going back five or ten years already called the signal in the noise meaning the noise is all these stats that are thrown at you. How do you find the signal from the noise meaning the relevant story? From all the stats that are constant constantly inundated with nowadays. Well. Here's one I. think that shows some signal. Here's something that I think is relevant. The second and third place Aaron Rodgers Right now through four games highest. QBR. Ever. Since two thousand six in the history of tracking Qbr the highest one. Through four games second and third on the list are Tom Brady and peyton manning. Not only did they each win MVP that year? But the each set the touchdown record that year. Now, if it doesn't seem like Rogers is on pace for that I, think he's throwing twelve. Forty eight. If it doesn't tick up. Spitting distance. I don't like I know that Russell Wilson C., because you start getting the story everyone says the narrative the narrative okay. Find the narrative starts to be about Russell Wilson. How he's never received an MVP, first place vote and all this kind of stuff and the truth about Russell, Wilson is every year the MVP names change. Every single year his is among the candidates the candidates change every your one year brady and Rogers run it the next year they're not Cam Newton. The next year is not right like every year there are different names over the last say five six years in the MVP conversation but there's one name that always belongs there by the way drew brees sometimes, there are sometimes not Tom Brady. Cam Newton because he won the MVP that year sometimes, there's sometimes not but the one name that's always there. Is Russell. Wilson. And since he's never won it, there's a strong sense that he's. He's looks like he's really peaking at this point like he's got, he's taking it to another level. He's on a super bowl contender when they made that Jamal Adams Street, they look like Super Bowl contenders I picked him to come out of the NFC. Over the defense doesn't look good enough to me at the moment. But Okay Russell, Wilson's amazing and sixteen touchdowns with two interceptions and they're undefeated. They beaten the Patriots Right. With Cam Newton. and. That's true. They also like. BEAT UP ON DALLAS IN THAT DALLAS SECONDARY? Like they have the toughest schedule but Russell, Wilson's been great and there's like a kind of natural inclination to give a guy an MVP who you could make the argument for an any given season, and once again, this season and maybe the best argument but actually. Wet Look you could say here his yards yards per attempt here as touchdowns it's like when people say, Hey, this guy's leading the league in points rebounds and assists here he's head of that guy in points rebounds and assists or you have a guy like Miguel Cabrera on the Tigers originally from the marlins big slugger won the triple crown. Well, how can anyone be better now home runs RBI's and batting average boy he wanted triple crown he's the best. Because those are mainstream stats, but they're not necessarily the most important ones just because the ones you're used to. QBR takes everything into account not that it's perfect. There's nothing perfect. But when you take all those stats into account, Aaron Rodgers better than Russell Wilson Right now. And the eyeball test to tell you the truth tells me Aaron Rodgers is a little better than Russell Wilson. I wouldn't protest Russell Wilson with the MVP was given out after four weeks and you the Russell Wilson I wouldn't protest. But if you ask me my honest opinion I know Rogers has one one and Russell Wilson hasn't. And I know this kind of fairness kind of tells you wait a minute if this dude is there every year one of these years? Could he get it but that's separate than saying who do you actually believe is the MVP so far Aaron Rodgers. I think he's having the best season. I mean, I really believe the MVP always mahomes to tell you the truth but. You asked me who I wanted my team, but I've always said the Guy He replaced is the best I've ever seen as Rogers and I thought the best of Rogers was over but I don't think it is I think Roger's as good as he's ever been. So. Now, the question becomes their recency bias with Patrick Mahomes. Or is he really better than Rogers? We'll find out right now because I don't know that Rogers has ever been better than this. Who Do you like for MVP? Right. Now let me rephrase that who do like for. MVP Right now. Eight eight say espn right now I go rogers mahomes. Sorry. Rogers Russell. Wilson Freudian slip. I would take him I. That was straight talk. Wireless no contract no compromise. I like doing those straight talk reads later in the show because what deal they got going. It's really unreal. Half the price, no contracts and all that. Way If I was a working man I would do that. Luckily I don't actually work for a living and I'm overpaid so. I don't have to pay attention to things like that. What a racket? This is anyone who's like boy those guys are so lucky to talk about sports and and you know you get paid well and all that stuff in your job is literally it's like honey I'm sorry I have to watch the football game I gotta gotTa Watch it. You're playing fantasy football I know. But this helps me prep all that. True. And if you feel like, Hey, could do that too. You're probably right. You're probably could. If you really into sports, the ones who are on TV just lucky that they happen to you funneled their career that way and you wind up on TV talking about it. We're the radio. In this case, you know the great thing with that Max with this job. You know magically like before the raiders ever had a team in Vegas you know how many damn NFL teams go away see in Vegas? Yeah. That's right. That's right. That's right. There's nothing there's not much better than going to vegas in watching games at the sports book. Let's be honest. That's what they want us to. Go I mean that's gotTa do. You gotta go. I know I said we're going to do this this and this, but you know what the truth of the matter is we got like like right now we got majorly baseball playoffs, NBA finals and NFL regular season all at once Like yesterday, for example, the day before tonight. We don't NFL tonight but. We'll coming off a game gotta get your draft Kings lineups in. Yep. Eighty eight say ESPN. Who's the MVP right now in the NFL I, know the story is Russell. Wilson I think it's Aaron. Rodgers. And here's the scary thing about Rogers. He was learning a new system last year and he game managed. It's hard to tell I was talking about this a little bit yesterday and I, talked about a little bit on the year on I take today it's hard to tell sometimes with great athletes who can do things that others can't As they age especially in game that so interrelated where your success is so dependent upon the team and the coaching as football, it's hard to tell. WHO's aging house? who for example Rogers last year Rogers doesn't have to be technically perfect because he has so much talent he can get away with stuff. So much talent. And it reminds me of in Boxing Roy Jones and Bernard Hopkins fought when they were young and Hopkins was technically better but Roy Jones was a talent from another planet. He was an extraterrestrial talent, and so he beat Hopkins easily did it with one hand Bernard Hopkins Head? But when they re matched when they were old men Hopkins who didn't have the talent to fall back on Roy did so had to learn the technique classic technique. Perfectly. He couldn't build a style around some enormous physical advantage. He had to learn technique that ages will. You would think well, if you have more athletic ability like in baseball, if you have more athletic ability, you'll tend to tend to age better for example, if you start out as a shortstop. With raw hitting ability and defense, you can wind up twenty years later as a D. H. OF I. Who now has learned the strike zone gotten bigger and stronger hits home runs draws walks as more of a guest hitter and they keep you in the lineup. That guy can have a long career if you get to the League as a big lumbering first baseman without a lot of defensive value and what you're relying on already is strengthened strike zone judgment. What are you going to evolve into? So you'll tend to have a shorter career, but in other sports, it works a little differently. So I mentioned boxing. If you rely on your athletic ability. And you don't have to develop that perfect technique. You'RE NOT GONNA age as well. I talked about the cliff with Tom. Brady, you fall off a cliff. But. What about football? How does that work I wondered with Aaron Rodgers last year? Maybe ages caught up to him because it's imperceptible it I like you lose a quarter step you lose a little something off your fast ball and it looks to the naked eye like you're more or less the same guy. But that little extra micro-second makes the difference at a certain level. So I wondered about Rogers was that him Or was it a new system or a combination of both I'm willing to say right now is just a new system. He was asked to do something he hadn't been asked to do yet gay manage he bought in and did it won thirteen games in a playoff game against Seattle now he's more used to it, and now he can improvise within that system a little bit more. He can do his thing a little more and we see the physical talent still there at scary. Max Keller and show is brought to you by Shell v Power Nitro plus premium gasoline. So is this am I right about that or is Russell Wilson still the? MVP. Like Russell Wilson has such touch. He's like he's like a do a floater in the lane, the way he can. You know like the guy who could shoot over people like that in the NBA The way he floats those passes to his receivers. He has touch. He doesn't have the same kind of arm like I know sometimes it's good to have air under the ball but sometimes, it doesn't look intentional to me and it looks like rodgers can do that and can throw it in a way that Russell Wilson cat then again although Rogers can really run Russell Wilson runs better. Who's the MVP right now? By the way I've been all over Carson wentz struggles. Up. Next. Someone that's still defending, Carson? wentz. Usually. That's just the opposing team that Defense Carson Wentz, and does it very well. Patrick mahomes Aaron Rodgers were making moves making moves is brought to you by Lincoln. Jobs. Build your winning team today. GO TO LINCOLN DOT com slash sports making moves is brought to you by linked in jobs filled your winning team today. GO TO LINCOLN DOT COM. Slash Sports. These days hiring can be difficult Monica starks can relate she needed to hire for a pivotal role at her construction company. GS group that was having a tough time finding the right person. 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The Max Kellerman show on ESPN radio ESPN news the ESPN APP and Siriusxm Channel Eighty and on your smart speaker reach me eighty eight say espn eight, eight, eight, seven to nine, three, seven, seven, six. was the MVP right now Rogers Russell Wilson the Max Kellerman Joe is presented by Progressive Insurance Dan Orlovsky joins us on the Shell Pennzoil performance line. Dan You their. Maximum here our you. Good. Good. I do try to get you on this show. I. We tried to get you on Monday apparently that's the worst day. Then the Friday that's your second worst I guess. Tuesday is your worst day. Right. So here you are. They they worked me almost as much as they were human. That's right. Well for good reason Dan Roloff ski breaks down. Look. Dan I'm not saying you're some NFL genius. This is what I'm saying some people are excellent. Explosives of ideas and can break down are very good teachers you know Teddy. Atlas. Talks about this the famed boxing trainer and broadcaster on ESPN and a friend of mine going back decades at this point. How D'Amato told him train Mike Tyson. That he was a born teacher. Right, teddy was a good amateur fighter. With a bad back. But but some people are just very good teachers. They have a way of explaining things to people simply and in a digestible way and I find that the way you breakdown tape especially is teaches me something every time I watch it. Which is why I'm so perplexed by your Carson Wentz loved and where does it come from? I. Thank you for those kind words You know I take my Carson Wentz love has to do with American girl from Philadelphia. Who true and true a philly girl and then also just I think that you know part of the reason why I love getting into this profession doing what I do Max is you know I think that we simplify things a lot with quarterbacks. If the teams really good, we think the quarterback great and it's usually Tom Brady and if the teams really bad, we think quarterback sucks and everybody Tom Brady. I try to go into things way deeper than that, and and trying to give love on guys that don't get enough love and and try to explain why guys aren't performing up to their expectations more than he sucks well, well, a couple of things number one. If you're if you're from Philly, she should be mad at Carson Wentz right now a good philly sports fan I mean, I, thought that was amazing when the Philly fans were booing, they had the virtual philly fans booing because that was realistic and secondly you got into this business to break down quarterback play you know I got into this business Dan. I didn't WanNa work living I didn't WANNA work for a living who wants a job this is amazing. Instead of working for a living I talk about I'm arguing with you about quarterback play. Who the hell am I to argue about quarterback place. Amazing. All, right. Let's do it nonetheless, I have the nerve to do it anyway, Dan Hartson. Wentz, resembled a mid level starting quarterback when he was throwing on the move like he had that fulcrum pass was a thing of beauty. It was perfect. He had maybe three or four other quality throws and I thought he was awful like otherwise. Dan I'm not just saying this. Now I saw this going back to last year, which is why bring it up bad decision making bad mechanics. It seems to me and he's beating occasionally bad teams by the skin of his teeth. Why should I think he's anything more than a mid level starting quarterback right now Yeah See. Two or three reasons why first of all, it's really difficult for me to sit here and hear you say mid level starting quarterback when he's done two things historically that no other quarterback has done like those two things cannot be the same sentence. You can't have the second greatest second season or sophomore season a quarterback in the history of the NFL. Marino and say mid level starting quarterback. I agree I wouldn't say it back then Dan. I'm saying it now I agree that's why I'm perplexed. Okay and then, and then you can say last year when he's throws for four thousand yards knack and. You know he throws for four thousand yards and doesn't have a single receiver overdue over five hundred yards. That's never been done. You can't say that that players mid level starting quarterback you can't go back because I know you like to go back to last year. Mexico. You can't go back to last year in point two there's only two quarterbacks that went to the playoffs last year that did not have thousand yard receiver North did they have a thousand York back nor did they have a ten defense only two quarterbacks in the NFL went to the playoffs with that? Carson Wentz Patrick Mahomes. Okay. Let's talk. Last, year. On, hold on Dan that's very that listen I understand how this business works believe me I wrote the rules back in the day on on clay tablets how this business works it's selective information you're putting out for the argument To quarterbacks because he was in the worst division of all time last year come on by the way miles senators emerged as an excellent miles, sanders and merchants and excellent pack, and otherwise you spread it around the got four thousand yards with two great tight ends Dan every time in this every time, all those never been done before stuff is going to happen in passing era. So he didn't have top receivers. got. Four. Thousand yards. I'm giving you facts though is this elective information to quarterbacks to the playoffs I fear? No Top. Ten deepens no thousand yard back and no thousand yard receiver like that is not selective. That is factual. Yes. Actual selective facts then look. How many quality throws demands have taken. How many quality throws did once have on Sunday. or five right that's what. I say I'm good. I'm glad that my eyes are Stephen me because I know you know what you're looking at four or five quality throws and by the way he does not look crea see Dan. I. Was with you on once I thought whence was amazing his second season but he has regressed to my is shockingly let's start with the ACL I think that whence lumbers now he does not run with the same kind of bounce nevertheless and he Used to really be good sliding around the pocket and using his movement and keeping the is down the field and all that stuff. Nevertheless I think he needs to move they need to put them on the move because that's where you get your quality out of him you giving them one hundred and twenty million dollars or whatever it is. You gotta get at least mid level quarterback play out of this guy. So you got to take the risk and move them around in my wrong. No I. Totally Agree I. I don't think he's. But like here's the thing there's maximum is really kind of quarterbacks. So right now there's thinkers and there's reactors you gotta figure out which one your quarterback is, and then take the reins off what's when Carson is he's a reactor he's got a stinker. You don't want him to sit in the pocket and try to be this technician where he's picking apart defenses and you know drew brees is a thinker to the Lola is going to be a thinker where Carson I agree with you they need to take the reins off and I think the reality has to be this Max. The organization is going to have to look at themselves and then look in the mirror and say. If he almost like rocky and I don't need this literally. But if he dies, he dies like if he gets hurt, he gets hurt but the only way we can allow him to be. Even agree with that. I agree that but Dan listen can't be scared about him getting hurt listen the reason they draft. Why am I forgetting the Alabama? Jalen hurts second time had done that in two days. The reason they draft Jalen hurts in the second round is because they were already thinking this about once and Dan you could say, well, it's for depth quarterback. Carson. wentz his injury prone but more injury prone. If you plan on moving around and really if Jalen hurts wasn't fumbling every time, he took the field. This dude would all there'd be a quarterback controversy Dan that was the best Carson Wentz looked a long time on Sunday and he was okay he had like an eighty one passer rating, right? Like he was only. Okay it's shocking. What's going on but long time longtime for you is like January. Okay. So yes, it's the best these. So nine months I disagree I don't think January, I think last year at the end of the year when you were so high on them I thought it was the same thing. Amazing. Throw followed by bad throw bad idea bad execution. A third a third down fourth quarter fumble or interception against the worst teams. Anyone's ever seen you and I will never you and I will never agree on this. Is it Possible for him to recapture his form from his second season or is that ship sailed? That's a great question My my answer with is always gonNA lean towards. Yes. Because that was a great season I mean that was a great year and I always say be very careful doubting greatness I'm not saying he's great but that was greatness and so I always lean towards yes you know I think that I hammer this point home with you Max and you know this and I do it for a lot of quarterbacks you gotta be you everything's gotta be context what's around them and right now they're hurting around him as well. So until I mean people sleep on that team Max that was The number one rushing attack in the NFL and Zach Ertz was three years younger and they're receiving core was very solid, very solid. So like if you gave him the number one rushing attack and young house on Jeffrey big receiver and production out of his own quarterback coach. Like. You yes. Then he could regain that but there's also context matters, men, I. Remember Steve Stone when I was a kid pitcher for the Baltimore Oriels Nine Hundred Eighty one, twenty, five games mark federick before him in Detroit used to talk to the ball one like nineteen games took the world by storm they each had one great year in their career you know and I hope that's not the case. I hope that's not the case for once but I listen you and I are going to have to figure out something else to argue about are you sick of arguing with me about went because I think it might be getting a little plate already. Great Dan Orlovsky Ladies and gentlemen NFL live coming up at four PM. got a great football crew over there. I suggest you check them out in fact. Dan tweeted something minutes ago before he came on this show. Talking about all the take sees going to have on on his NFL show including. How great the Patriots looked. He thinks that the chiefs look much better in certain respects than are given credit for this morning. WHO'S THE MVP? I say Rogers X.. Backs, phone calls. Edition is next the Max Kellerman shows presented by Progressive Insurance Progressives homequote explorer is changing the way you buy home insurance. Now you can go online get accustomed quote and save both time and money learn more progressive dot com acts is next. The Max Kellerman. Show on ESPN RADIO ESPN news, the ESPN APP and Siriusxm Channel Eighty and on your smart speaker eighty eight say espn eight, seven to nine three, seven, seven, six be a part of the Max Kellerman nation. There's no even in front of its just Max Kellerman nation I have my own nation on the Dr Pepper. Twitter Feed Slash Colin Line. ESPN nation is presented by Dr Pepper. It's official college football's back and so is your favorite Dr Pepper? Loving. College. Football town fans Ville. Had A store near you to treat your inner college football fan to an ice cold twenty ounce Dr Pepper today. Max. All right. So this is the phone call version addition of Acts Bax John And New York you're on the Max Kellerman show. ESPN radio. Go. So. I want to agree with you I think for MVP. It's gotta be in Rogers is the most valuable player you take him off his team. I think it's team goes still both five hundred teams. As good as Russell Wilson is and puts up the stats and the numbers. He's got other players on that team with them. devante Adams. Is Always. Missing. I think it was like four or five games last year. Yeah listen. To me, you don't have to down nothing you're trying to down but you don't have to like. Russell Wilson I think it is close. By the way news from Max Kellerman nation John just up on the Dr Pepper call in line. I. Do think it is close. Here's the difference for me. Number. One Aaron Rodgers has a higher qbr right and again through four games highest ever tracked, they'd be tracking since two thousand, six second third highest per espn stats and Info. Were Tom Brady and Peyton manning both not only won MVP that year set touchdown record that year right now Aaron Rodgers Thirteen touchdowns no interceptions Wilson. Sixteen touchdowns interceptions nevertheless rogers account that all in Cuba higher. So that's kind of verifiable right? He's statistically according to the most sophisticated creek metric that we have or that is available to the public rogers little better but I think Russell Wilson's fourth overall but. My I bought at this level. It comes down to the eyeball test. You see it's not like Major League baseball where you really have to do the math because if you if you haven't seen two players play. Like every single game all the at bats which gets a lot. It's it's like how do you keep track of it all but not only that no-one scenes seven hundred plate appearances from two different players. So, how'd you know who's better? You need the math you need the stats but in the case of Aaron Rodgers and Russell Wilson, we've all seen all the place. Or most of them at least. So it comes down to who do you think's been more impressive. I think Aaron Rodgers has been a little bit better. Terry in Anaheim, your Max Kellerman. Show ESPN radio. How you doing Max go here for me. I. Just WanNa I I wanna say you know quarterback during lead I I would say. Aaron Rodgers. But. I. Think a player Kennedy Player when MVP is possible, it's hard. Aaron Donald A couple years ago. Who Do you have mud? He wanted to talk about Myles Garrett her. myles Garrett have you know he's strips acts and everything very valuable. I wouldn't say for a defensive player to be MVP got to be lt in his prime or jj watt or Aaron. Donald, you have to be like elite Oh my God. It's the best thing I've ever seen dion. Sanders. Tougher an MVP for defensive player of the MVP especially in this quarterback era. I'm going to get to a bunch more calls this show Raj. I just had to go on and on with some theory instead of listening to the calls. Gas designed for two callers and you Hong Go. I don't get enough screen time apparently coming up folks are saying the pats and the chiefs had. Trouble have been watching the NBA finals game for.

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So for the first month after that Brady get traded, the Tampa was our story from zillion angles, and then the draft saved us, and now we're very very fortunate. We're back and we've got NBA stuff in baseball stuff and UFC fights and some NASCAR golf this weekend. There's a major Gulf major which I'm crossing my fingers tiger and. Plays. Really really well, and now we got football camp, and this is to me. Now, we don't have pre season, but we have camp I am. So into this Brady thing and the guy that broke the story I used to work in Tampa Rick Strauss great NFL reporter. He broke the story about Brady working out a month before the helicopter video. So this is why I've said this is a this is a super bowl roster it this is. Is Not a rebuil-. They were really good. They were very predictably to start last year they were to in six I eight because they had a new coach, a young roster, new defensive coordinator. In their last date. They were five and three, and they were a tough out and what they needed was more efficiency at quarterback, a right tackle and more running backs, check check check and Rick Stroud is now joining us for the Tampa Bay Times great reporter. For let's start with this physical appearance, you've been covering this league since the Trent. Trent Dilfer Buccaneers, physical appearance. How does Tom Look? You Looks, Great Colin I. Mean You know he's eating avocado ice cream. I guess, but I. think that you know the move has suited well with him. He's been up about working out with guys at seven o'clock in the morning every morning, and he continues to do that even now that they're in strength conditioning but. Know Tom. Brady didn't move here for the weather such as Alka peak near the water I mean, he's here because of the weapons he has around him and he wants to win. I. Think those are. The biggest things that that he hasn't Tampa form to construct a really good picture of Tampa. You have to go back in my opinion to last year what they were. So you covered them go to the last eight games of last year because they had a new coach and a new DC. So it's unfair to September October. Unfair. Let's start in November tell the audience what this team did really well, and still struggled with the last half of last year Rick. Well what they did, well, house play defense I mean, I. Think if you go back and look the last half of the year on the top teams, particularly taken the football away via via became real big player. You Know Devon wife was injured the first part of the year. He was player rookie of the month. The last two months of the season started making plays all over the place. Those young corners particularly grew up. You know guys like Djemalidine, and Sean Murphy Bunting, we're really ball out and I think apple's had them going the problem was. was they didn't? Of course was protected football. I. Mean Jameis. Winston. Through thirty interceptions, they gave up one hundred twenty points off those turnovers along call and and you just can't win. They were seven and seven. James had a big game in Detroit I thought. Maybe he was going to be back this year with any essentially through the last two games away. They miss some kicks as well. But that's when Bruce Arians realized that he couldn't go forward with his quarterback. Knew there was a guy named Tom Brady that might be a free agent. So. They started their little operation, shoeless, Joe Jackson, they called it and If you build it, he will come and they built enough for him to come. So that's why he's here did tell me your reporting did Tom Recruit them or did they recruit Tom like what was the initial connection on this? Well I think we'll have to wait until the history books are written on that one, but I think we all be naive to think that. You, you know people new organizational people close to Tom Brady, he must have looked at this situation. He said that he was realizing, this would be his last year. New England in two, thousand and nineteen. Jason Ladies here. Of course, he was in knowing when they drafted him. So there are some connections. Officially when it called his agent, he said, we're glad you called made the right decision so on and so forth, and it didn't take very long Brady with sort of recruiting them on the idea. So you know what the real story is. Again, we may have to wait, but I think these guys have been sort I two other for a little bit. So I've even noticed it with the social media stuff is that bre and this was one of my concerns is that Boston is an intellectual intense sports. How politics academic, it's very intense. Tampa is very laid back and I've always believed teams become their cities and I said I, said this I said I know Brady can. turn the governor down ten percent, but can Tampa handle Tom's obsessive nece and intensity. So talk about that because I've even watched the bucket near social media accounts, they're funnier there quicker. They're on it. They're productive and I'm like that feels like a Tom, influence. Yeah I. Think you're right I think. This organization that's been looking for a quarterback forever, right? Have had some that just didn't win while they were here Steve Young's Doug Williams, and so forth. Even tramped doper won a super bowl, but there's never been anybody like Tom Brady clearly and so. He is the Culture Colin. I, mean whether it's Hammer Peyton manning who Bruce Arians coats. I think when when a guy like that walks into the building. He gets everybody's attention like I said, these workouts at. Berkeley. Prepar all his idea. He was not going to let a pandemic even when the NFL PA told the Stop, he wouldn't stop those guys kept showing up. and. You know before long he had the defense out there at times so. I, I think you know Brady's intensity will work in any clout in any locker room in any town. But you're right. I think there is a sort of a laid back or certainly to the boxing, the one twelve years evidence, the playoffs, he changes all of that and he walks in the building and we've seen it even before he walked in the building. So it's interesting when Brady was doing all that workout stuff nobody was wearing masks and they weren't sequestered. So Bruce Arians has been, you don't have a bubble like the NBA or the mls you don't do they have. You know. Brady's GonNa have ten times. The media there. You know everybody wants a piece of him. It's not going to be the most cove against the friendly environment like is Bruce. Arians aware. There's just gonNA. Be People glomming on this franchise this year in the middle of a pandemic. Look, they're going to have to take care of each other. There's no doubt about that and to that extent I know, new. Orleans. Is secured some floors at hometown box them. Same thing for players that want to go there. But there, I talk as a team was just about that. You know if one guy steps out of line, he could screw up the whole thing. Thing and it's hard to impart that on a twenty three year old. It's time and money for the first time. But again, that's where that's where Tom Brady comes in. Your Bruce Arians is is probably one of the most susceptible coaches in in the national football league. To this thing, he's taken a lot of precautions. He's three time cancer survivor sixty, seven years old. But they're doing everything. They can possibly do as a team whether together to try an make sure that the you know the they're not out that. They're not breaking protocols. I don't know what else you can ask them but we'll just have to see how it goes. I have my doubts about the NFL season whether they'll have interrupted or not, but it certainly looks like it's going to start on time. Give me the you know it's funny. It's. I would say the box have the best wide receiver grouping in the League and maybe the best tight end grouping OJ Howard hasn't been super productive, but he's super talented. So they bring in Gronk is grog just going to be a figurehead red zone blocking tied end. What do you think wrongs role is here? I think GRONK would play. Until he drops. You'll play as long as he thinks, he can go now. There might be some some wisdom in trying to manage that work life because his body feels good. Again, this guy that had a lot of injuries, right? But Tom Brady really didn't have chemistry or know anybody on this. Peak helped orchestrate that trade for Iraq mccaskey. So at the end of the day, that's his safety. About right. That's the guy. He knows mccaskey's. He's going to have a huge impact on a guy like Oj, hours talented as hell, but doesn't have a lot of instincts up struggles trying to read the rotation of a deep defenses and things like that. SNAP. They do have a big tide. AM though him and Cameron break, even Anthony Clare's good blocker, but I. Think you see a lot of tight end formations really gone that twelve personnel that they use a new, England there. Hernandez an end. It wouldn't surprise me those. You know guys with my and Gog on a lot privately wreck under their breath. They don't want it to make the. Tampa. Bay Times but to the people in the building, believe this is a super bowl level team if healthy. Absolutely. Again, you said this new project, right? Deem them seven seventy year ago despite all those overs defense grew up, they brought guys back You know in terms of consumer Jason, Pierre Paul. More them. So I really think that they believe they're a super bowl contender. Now, they gotTa beat New Orleans Saints. Who One is division three years in a row, and they got a forty one year-old quarterback. There's a lot of words back and forth, but you don't get Tom Brady at any age forty three or otherwise unless you think. Think you can win a super bowl. He thinks it can win. They have every reason to believe that they got the quarterback that knows how to get them there, and so yeah, I would definitely say that they're contender Rick Stroud reporter Tampa Bay. Times has a podcast to sports day Tampa, Bay podcast Rick, it's great seeing you and say to my friends. We just had Kevin O'Donnell on not long ago and go golfing with Dave. Worth say hi to him as well. Man. All right. Rick Stroud Bucks reporter. I was a young young cub reporter back over you and you're in Tampa. See me think about that for a second twenty S. I was in my twenties I was a dog reporter. I. Did I. Did I was the weekend legit reporter while I was a weekend sports caster. So I anchored on the weekends and during the week I, broke countless stories of record maybe none. But I want to know funny story about that. So I'd I grew up in the Pacific northwest. Yes, and then I worked I'd never been in humidity in my life. So I, had not done some done a lot of travel, but I'd never. BEEN TO MIAMI. I. Think maybe visiting or something, but I hadn't spent any time in Florida. So I do my I live shot. So when you live in Tampa. In the Gulf of Mexico. So Orlando's in the Middle Miami's on the Atlantic and the Gulf is really humid. So every day is I'm doing bucks camp was one of my first jobs. Yeah. You get these five o'clock lightning storms like every day yet like irons every day every minute lightning storm every day. So I go out where a big mistake. So I go out and I'm wearing a blue shirt. With no undershirt under it and I'm doing a live shot. And I look like Albert Brooks Broadcast News. I'm pouring sweat gigantic sweat things under my arms and I come back to my Daniel Webster was the news director. How do I do? He's like never wear a blue shirt on the air. You wear white shirts and Tampa? Yeah. I'm like I'm a Seattle kid with the British mother. We don't do ninety eight degrees and humidity. I've never even been whether like I had to work dolphins training camp. Every year doing radio and it's I. Mean they put these massive fans out there, but the fans just move the hot air or around your face can't wait ultimate California. It does get warm. But the further you go east in La, it's the desert. So this. Dry Heat. If you've never been in August in Florida, there's nothing like it and our always be like I felt unprofessional wearing shorts or address. Him but you. have to it's so hair just unravels. It gets very if it's actually why I knew I was one hundred percent cut out for studio work. Because I got an assignment to go dolphins training camp and get the sound bites for the day. So you know they send me out I'm in my early twenties also matte training camp and I go in the media scrum, which is not going to happen anymore, Kobe and I like holding my recorder. Who Was it? 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But despite doesn't concerns, he decided not to opt out this season and GM Andrew Berry is very confident that Oh Dallas locked in for twenty twenty. Having a player Odell. Rosser obviously he generates attaching and. Very mindful debt that you know he has to be. You know conscientious with his words and that being said that we've had plenty of dialogue and conversation with Odell. He's returned and and really been focused on working hard. He's been very engaged and. Everything that we've done in the classroom and. He's really focus on having a great year A. Conversation with the Journal kind of. Before. I didn't like that by the Wall Street Journal, which is owned by the Murdoch. So I'll lightly here. But they had interviewed a month ago and he said I don't know if we're GONNA have a season and then they. Then they ran it weeks later when he already said yeah, we got the protocols down. So it looked like Odell is like I'm out it I didn't think it was very fair to, Odell. Beckham. It wasn't fair end, but once you read when it was. When the interview happen, it made sense that this is not this is not lining up I don't. Is Out in the season and from everything, all the conversations that we've had today a throughout the past couple of weeks. It seems like the NFL has done an amazing. It's I talked to texted the player yesterday. He's like it is buttoned up like they have figured out what they really watch baseball, right? They've watched. Ended advantage to the NFL throughout the whole pandemic that has happened during the off season for the most part everything that they've been able to do. They've been able to do digitally, and now they're going into camps having baseball already come back not in a bubble seeing what the other leagues are doing in the Bobbio Gregg Popovich shot today about why the NBA bubbles worked so far. He said it's a great example for our country. Our leader had a vision, it was organized and the participants are citizens had disciplined. Everything that we're hearing from the NFL camps, is that everyone is buying into what they're saying? Yes. People aren't pushing back now. Obviously. Obviously, it's a long season. There's a lot that can happen, and again, you shouldn't be striving for perfection, just progress in managing the situation. But if you buy into the safety protocols and realize that you know one person stepping out of line can affect everybody. Then we'll be able to make it happen. Speaking of that. Yukon announced that they will not be playing football and twenty twenty. The school was expected to play as an independent. This season on some of the Games have already been eliminated due to conference only schedules, and they are the first S. team to cancel the season due to the pandemic, obviously there in kind of a unique situation. Because, most of their most of their games were traveled and they. got. Cancelled because of copper schedules. But the universities that members the football team or main enrolled in classes either virtually personnel have access to facilities and support services and find foregoing the twenty twenty campaign yukons. Athletes retain their Europe eligibility, which is really big for the student athletes obviously in a tough situation there with canceling the season. Yeah. I mean, listen to the Ivy League and you connor out. But that's college basketball country more than football. Football. If the SEC starts, you know, yeah, it's nothing to panic about there's going to be. There's going to be programs that don't participate and they'll. They'll be back next year when everything is in hopefully in a different different circumstance, look at the macro, the situation. Now, the leagues are handling it, how how conferences are coming back protocols that they're putting place how they're handling things on a on a macro level and not panic about. The marlins Yukon, and if you go to the bottom one or two or three teams in most conferences, they're not going to have fans, there's a major budget crisis for. Even in the SEC. If you went to like a vanderbilt is not is not, it's an academic power. You Know Vanderbilt said, listen, we can't. Obviously, a huge factor in this. But if you're talking about budgets I'm looking forward to the future agreement to cancel the entire program for the whole school or not play this year. You GotTa, make that decision finally thought you enjoy this. We talked a lot about haircuts today, Tom Brady turned forty three on Monday and pokes funded as himself to celebrate. He tweeted out a picture of the evolution of his hair cells during his NFL career with the caption of all the haircuts throughout the years. My favorite one is the next one you all for your birthday wishes I hadn't really given that much thought to Tom. Brady's haircuts over the years I don't remember the Dinamo. Dynamo either I remember that was maybe from. It looks like a ball look. He did the Timberlake for several years. That's the radio audience. He's got a picture of each one. The Caveman where he looks a little scruffy off, and then he had the third base. It was not my favorite look for him although I don't mind long hair and beard of honest with you. The timberlake's probably what he should be wearing because he's too. He's too fastidious detailed to the caveman. That's just not who he is. The well, yeah. I mean, that's that's not that's not his personality, the Florida man and the rookie are kind of similar. Just more wrinkles. Good joined with news. Well. That's the news and thanks for stopping by. Heard, Law Davis. TB Or, not TB. Tom Brady or not Tom Brady. What will and won't he accomplish this year? Best for last, be sure to catch live editions of the heard Weekdays at noon eastern nine am. Pacific. I've got grade school questions, a million dollars to give away. 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This is t Or not. TB. What will Tom. Brady accomplish in his first year or not accomplished joy. Here we go. Tom Brady, throws for thirty plus touchdown passes to TV or not to be I. think he'll start potentially slow but it'll be TB. Okay. So he has averaged thirty one in his career. James through thirty three last year, and that doesn't count sixty through to the other team. So this, this is not just a good receiving group. This has been. This is now the top tied end and receiving group. An upgrade on the offensive line and a better running back group. So and Sean, mccan catch at thirty catches. Last year, he's just got a lot of available targets. He's got a lot of people. A lot of mouths to feed and nobody sprinkles around any. By the way. The targets also big Mike Evans is six six. GRONK is six six. He's got big OJ. Howard. Big targets in the red zone and there's a lot of. Of feeling that there's like ego involved. Now, this point Tom Brady throws before two thousand yards TV or not TV. Okay. He's thrown a TB. Thrown for four thousand yards in eight of nine years. I don't even know what he threw four last year but James through for fifty one, hundred yards last year. So he brady had four thousand last year. Think about this? He had no tight end. Really, they had no deep threat. I did play every game or did he led the? He had more drops than he'd ever had? So he threw last year and the and they had some offensive line issues and no fullbacks. So no running game. So he was often throwing third and long and Brady got to four thousand yards last year. This is the easiest one hilter over over four thousand yards bucks. We'll have a top three offense TV or not TV. This is an easy TB. First of all, they were number three last year, which is hard to believe. Right? You're like with all those interceptions, they've added GRUNK. They've added Brady, they've upgraded the right tackle. They've added Shawn McCoy. Again, this is a two constructed opinion on Tampa. Go back to last year. They were really good team at the end of the year. They were just a turnover prone mass offensively, but their defense was better Davin, good special teams in forever. So that that to me is their biggest hang up in in New England was had great special teams Tampa. Special teams historically are a mess. That's the fault with a team. It's not that, but they they will have a top three. Bucks will make the playoffs. TV. Or. Not TV. Yeah. Okay. So again, seven teams now make the Blouse. Seven, that's an extra team. So you can look at about four or five teams. We know Arizona's going to be a little over at Skis in that division, we know that Carolina's kind of rebuilding. We know Washington is rebuilding Joe Judge. Never coached the game in the NFL? Of The sixteen teams, I can take about four to five. You'd talk yourself out very quickly and I do believe they have better personnel significantly on offense than Atlanta. So Yeah, there's a playoff team. Bucks will win the NFC South TV or not. That's not TB first of all the bucks are. The Saints Are Favored The saints have won at three years neurology, and the saints may be the best team in the NFC when I say that the saints have own line. Then the box and it's been together longer and frankly I think they have better consistent pass rush. Then Tampa. So if you give me a better align D. line and Sean Payton and they also added Emmanuel Sanders. So they got plenty of firepower. They will not throw the ball down the field as well as Tampa, but they'll be incredibly efficient. and Tampa's defensive affronts. Really good. The bucks will reach the Super Bowl TV or not. TV I'M GONNA say. TB. Wildcard, teams can make it. Okay. So NFC ask yourself this the NFC's up-for-grabs. IGNIFICANT, better. Green. Bay. Not Really San Francisco. Absolutely. There's no question all. So plan toughest division in football, and it's very possible. Losers of super bowls often have a hangover, a little what San, Francisco in ten or eleven, Tampa wins twelve New Orleans thirteen and a games in. Tampa. Dan, it's interesting. Tom Brady makes the pro bowl TB. Are. Not TV? No, that's not. There's just too many good quarterback. I mean just think that Russell Wilson's going to make it. I mean, you can write that down. Aaron. Rodgers. Jimmy Garoppolo Jared Goff Carson wentz DAX going to put up good numbers who else drew brees Matt Ryan Matt Stafford. There's is the. Mean Kirk cousins by the way. We'll put up good numbers. They're just too many good quarterbacks. He won't get them. You're really you're gone all in with Tampa, this year, I, don't see. I you know what it is. I think the two best teams in the NFL are arguably in the AFC. Ravens and chiefs. Yes, and so then I think San Francisco. Depends don't love their secondary. Let's see if. The wide receiver from Arizona State COMPLA- lost Emmanuel Sanders. Dante Pettis hasn't been what they thought. Let's see how they're wide receiving corps adapts. If kill can stay healthy if Garoppolo takes another step, but I think the top of the AFC is really great I think the NFC on. Fox. Is Way better. Is it as deep. I mean, it's NFC's deeper isn't as good at I don't know like the example I love Seattle, their offensive line's a mass pro football focus ranks their defensive line as thirty second. PHILADELPHIA, Carson, Wentz, healthy lot of new pieces on the perimeter. offensively. There's everybody. That's good. Even, San Francisco Emmanuel Leaves George. Hill can get hurt. Can stay healthy on the weapon side. That's like a real issue for them. I just. I think that they are a playoff team i. think it's a wildcard situation I. don't know if they can go from a wild card spots the super bowl. So the athletic came out. That subscription maybe time to cancel. So they ranked every NFL offense one to thirty two, right. So they got one right, Kansas City. and. They got thirty two right. Washington, The Washington football team yeah. Wrong. They. Have Tampa. Eleventh. So they think Tennessee's offense is better than Tampa. The I don't agree with that. Like does anybody in America? Here's another gym. They, have Cleveland's offense at Eighteenth. You gotta be out of your mind, Baker drives, me nuts, top twelve offense. They're they're loaded. They got to of everything. Hold on hold on. And then they have the Patriots right behind Cleveland at twenty third. They have quarterbacks. Splitting snaps. They have no deep perceiver to rookie tight ends, Dante negative, retired athletic, get your act together. This list is bad. WHO'S Well Kansas City Baltimore St.. Nor yeah, that's and I would say of Dallas Four. Dallas has good personnel. I GOT NO PROBLEM WITH DALLAS Cleveland Higher. They have Seattle v offensively what? 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Mornings with Keyshawn, LZ, & Travis (HR3)

Mornings with Keyshawn, Jorge & LZ

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Mornings with Keyshawn, LZ, & Travis (HR3)

"The Brad Paisley twenty two years ago nineteen ninety-seven the auto war by bone thugs was released. Are they using our last week. <hes> travis seemed to have no idea who bone thugs he he doesn't have not a clue. He should at this point though he ought to this because we keep judging him for it but he doesn't mind. It's been a very educational process for him. I think he's comfortable being judged. I will say so as opposed to actually learning who bone thugs are black. I'm just I'm a curious person. Soon as I find out right around needs to know we had that incident this morning we shall not be named. How many total are there how many total bone thugs and harmony guys were there like the bones isn't there some homer bones and other ones with dogs are there's a there was like busy right when they're like busy like crazy speaking of travis him and Keyshawn will return in one week Monday August fifth as we begin? Oh Saint Louis we will be at the PASSAIC resort in Huntington beach the next day Tuesday. We'll be at the El Torito in orange right there at the block which we are formerly known as the block for Taco Tuesday extravaganza liked us not for was five Fi- forgotten Wednesday night will be doing medieval times and Buena Park and the only way you're gonna be able to go and joust with keyshawn and see as a medieval times is if you come see as Monday and Tuesday will be given out those medieval times passes Thursday were at Black Gold last month jealousy and Friday will be at the Rock and brews in Buena Park Jobe all week but if you WANNA see all the events visit us on the social facebook instagram and twit us and you know what else if you come out you also have a chance to win an Anthony Davis Number Three Jersey and more elsie but you must be present to win some come on out busy bone on lazy bone wishbone crazy bone flesh and bones a lot of bones bones. I think Rajabi busy bone if we were bones and awkward transition awkward position the N._B._A.. Free Agency is basically over at this point. Most teams are stocked up. You know the Lakers have won empty roster spot that they're holding but by and large it could be. How's your outside shot better than sows? It is better than those. I can't do anything else though can't do it. The shooting could keep you in the league but Jeremy Lin is currently an unsigned free agent. He was last <hes> part of the Raptors team that won that championship <hes> he was not a big part of that playoff run and he was recently speaking with the Christian outlet good TV about a situation right now and was pretty candid about how it's tough for them quote in English. There's a saying and says once you hit rock bottom. The only way is up but rock-bottom just seems to be getting more or more rock bottom for me so free agency has been tough because I feel like in some ways the N._B._A.'s given up on me. It's that's a really if you're Jeremy Lin a tough place to be in like the idea that something that you've worked on this hard your entire life that it may be done but it's not on your terms. I think that's like one of the things that's really difficult for athletes when they're retiring the idea of is in my retiring on my terms or the terms being dictated for me and no matter what you think of Jeremy Lin right now in terms of how good of a player that he is these clearly are not his terms if it turns out that he's actually going to be out of the League or turns thirty one in August so he's not necessarily an old guy but we consider that he what graduated from Harvard in twenty ten was on a Tina just want to chip in twenty nineteen. Almost a decade can run an early on obviously he was in summer leagues not with a team and then of course we know what happened when he got to New York in a lot of ways if his over it was great absolutely and I. I know that it's tough for him right now because he loves the game but but this is case in Los Angeles. I'm just GONNA keep him one hundred do you graduated from Harvard in two thousand ten and you were on a championship team in twenty nine thousand nine hundred you are quite possibly the most successful Ivy League aren't that many there aren't that many that get into the league much less actually to carve out a career. You're the first Asian American N._B._A.. Player to be on a championship team like I mean it's like I when I watched the clip I felt for him but now also was like dude. That's a fantastic run. I look I think Jeremy Lin would be the first to recognize okay. This has gone well beyond my wildest dreams you had you had the Mecca of basketball calling your nee and even as somebody who believed in his N._B._A.. Talents when nobody else did and you take into account Lind Sanity and how he became you know a a minor icon in his own right and the way that he has made way more money than he ever would have expected in the N._B._A.. More money it's still though becomes different once you're there and once this becomes your thing and like the novelty of being in the N._B._A.. Has Worn off longtime ago for Jeremy Lin like you know he's well past Lin Sanity in the sense that this is what he he does like. He considers himself rightly an N._B._A.. Player having that taken away from you when you're not ready for any player like it's hard mirror Steve Nash talking about that you know the the last few years of Steve Nash's career even even as somebody that you knew at his age you know we're nearing that end point. They were taken away. There were taken away from in a way that he didn't want like Kobe had the finale for the ages but the last few years of Kobe's career were spent struggling. Stay healthy and that's brutal for somebody like Kobe who had accomplished so much over his career even knowing he's one of the greatest to ever do this going out that way could not have been easy for Kobe yeah one he was taken. Bye Bye father time is being maybe because it's still early I know doesn't early stiller is they don't get invited to Cam. He's GonNa have to contain. He's emotional right now because he thought he would be sought after now he has come knocking again but when you look at you know the guys who are still out there you got Jeremy Lin eamonn trump shumpert still out there. He's not sign Jamal Crawford thirty nine. He's not signed Vince Carter's forty. He's not signing J._R.. Smith Jared Smith is linked to the Lakers previously linked to the Lakers previously being Lebron James previously laid to looking crunched out doing a celebration parade. He's linked to no asserts previously linked to not know what time it was what the score was or see I think Jeremy Leno get back into league before J._R.. Smith Jonas you REPCO still available suffer Lucia still available like they're still those guys are. We're GONNA FIND A T. It's just at the point right now where it's like to your point a lot of the big movements happened once you get into camps and people started getting invited. These are awesome. These guys are not gonNA still be out the League Jeremy Men. We'll be back in a league. He private for Carmelo Anthony will yes rush. You know you guys talk about you know veterans and stuff and playing seasons and all they know that gets me thinking of Andy. What was the last man standing up in this piece? That's right gentlemen near our guys. <hes> veterans have played on many teams but can you name me N._B._A.. Players that have played twenty or more seasons twenty or more seasons yeah. There's there's one there's one active player in one player just retired as a couple of hints for you guys but go ahead Andy. I guess I will start with Kobe. Bryant Kobe Bryant has played twenty seasons. That's right offer one team. I'm GonNa go with the recent retired. Dirk Nowitzki Risk Dirk has played twenty one seasons offer one team that is correctly as good at this little nervous. I think I might be off but Tim Duncan Tim. Duncan did not tell nine nine because you're nice keep this thing going. They WANNA keep communist nickname. No that's close that was close. I might they offer one team as well but <hes> America's going to hail done that. Who Do you got? There's a accurate three played thirty years that a lot of confidence come on. That's correct yeah. I'm looking at Macarena. Lew alcindor then careened astrium altogether there. I'm sorry not as nice and he knows stolen Karadzic Dot Com. It's always accurate active player Vince Carter Dummies play twenty years saving Vince Carter. Oh wait a minute. I know your game so go and play again. I just outside what I know. You're right. He's a he played twenty years <music>. I'll take Vince Carter to what's happening here. I'll know how to play twenty years seamless transition for the Lakers Kareem yes yes. I thought you were just giving me the game just to be nice. He was obviously on the list. I was like well. I missed it. I'm sorry how I don't know I just I don't know I just took Vince Carter so your turnover yeah you guys are forgetting the leader all right hold on twenty years ears think big men to hold on hold on. I didn't think people necessarily Kareem. He didn't pronounce it right. I gave you both names. Just go you leave me alone stalling technique five. I am nice ice for check. No shock is not on any that. I'm double checking. He's not the leaders Robert Parish Irish guys he played <hes> David Twenty One seasons twenty one season Kevin Willis Dirk play Tony one-season House. He's leader well because it's medically yeah the Willis Willis nickname the chief to the one by Kevin Garnett played twenty one. I remember hold on with the nets ticket but some of the guys who played nineteen was Moses Malone. Someone named James Edwards and John Edwards Stockton and John Stockton Malone played the same amount of seasons nineteen Charles Oakley played shack played ninety stockton was on the team before he was eighty four to two thousand and three <hes> Malone came in eighty five. Yeah Oh played nineteen seasons who knows really yeah hopefully punching people for nineteen. Last man standing is driven by Keys Automotive Group visit keys cars DOT COM so L Z who do you think actually gets back in the League first Jeremy Lin Carmelo Anthony or neither <hes>. I'M GONNA go with Jeremy Lin going to go with generally. We hold on W.. Checking Rogers Sam because I'm doing the math here because I was like am I really wrong. Check One thousand nine hundred twenty twenty or more. I just gave Andy Nineteen because he's nice. I'm offended. We need to work on your attitude and you could win. That is true. We do need to work on your attitude. That's why we're doing that will sit down next Monday night. Play the music. We gotta do a little talk coming in with your starting shows your social commentary popping in and now with the Devon no you just gotTa pop in. Don't pop out what we need from. You would have been more for Giza punctuality would be nice. I don't think you in position talknet cream twenty years. I thought you were just giving me. The game at McCarron has to be on that list. I duNno I dismissed. The new stuff over here a lot of papers and things and you know what I mean and seeing papers hey if you want great football even better beer and warm sand and guess what Eddie Tell Me Tell me look because corona grown a beard the official beer of the L._A.. Rams giving you a chance to fly away to Hawaii to see the rams. Take on a cowboys August seventeenth at a low cost now. The trip includes round trip airfare tonight. Stay at the Rams Official Hotel L. in tickets to the rams versus cobbler. You got to do to win this text corona to four zero seven zero five for your chance to win. Message and data fees may apply Andy Andy that's right. It's birthday time Chris. That's not the soldier boy but moved to go hit. It get Chris Gone. That is not what your this back in the day used to be racist theme that's Great. You didn't know I can move that. Did you. Andy no I did know. Unfortunately I've seen a lot of it. Go Janus Essay you nauseous before genesis time. She's GonNa Kinda all right. Did you ever do the soldier boy Andy. I do not do the Social Hi Scott. I wonder if he's just walking straight through. It's just not acknowledging it which probably for the best that's good. I'm glad he doesn't <hes> listen as closely as he should be. In trouble birthday soldier boy how old is soldier born twenty-nine really wait soldier man. He's only twenty nine on Arosh that seems such a shock that the time it goes over ten years ago yeah that's true yeah I think about it. I know I'm just say that would have been really young for him. Sociable he was born in nineteen ninety. Two math carry two one twenty nine think about it he was he was barely two Mary J. Blige resource to four one one. That's nuts wow we're all. We'll get an old man. I have no idea what that sounds bill. I just relaxed. His real. Name is D Andre Cortes Way. What does it so well? What does the song about this is about getting laid so is it? Does anyone know I do as soon as E._S._P._N.. Los Angeles if you know what soldier boys what that sounds really about. Do you know Chris. I don't Davis about the army all right so arcade one up <hes> big news in video games. They have announced that the classic Atari Star Wars Arcade game is going to be available for preorder through game. Stop so talking like the the stand up arcade game name and it's going to include the three original Star Wars Arcade Games from stores in New Hope Empire strikes back and return to the jet. It's going to be available in November. Four four ninety nine ninety nine and people may remember it certainly people of our age remember the Old Star Wars Video Game Yeah the perspective of Tie fighter. You're going to try to take out the star. What was your best arcade game like the one that when you got in front of their didn't matter how many quarters people put up there for like I got next year like you're GonNa be a while is going to be a while doc? I don't like to Brag on my my skills with a joystick. Thanks House you do them. I I liked that smart yard supposed to say it though order but he didn't get it now. We're going to give so tell us about your skills with the joystick. It's too late now to joke has been ruined because you pointed it out all right anyway. What was the Game Gallagher? Gallagher Gallagher is on my list like if I decide is going to play gallagher for real he might as well go do something with your life. You get that double double bullfighter going. No you wouldn't go down fighter. I would do it with the one why why would you not do the double fighter work with Bosch Goes Double Fighter and then I'm usually the other fighter. I just trump it. If I attack well they take they take out my second joke. See I'm trying to be subtle and they keep putting the spotlight on subtle in Gao. You can't do the bonus you can't with without the double. You can't get the bonus more. It's really hard I agree with Raj and that bonus round that is really hard to do without the double what you need what you really need machine. That's kind of relatively new because you can really get going if you push it. It really really fast yeah that button. Sometimes you gotTA. Just you know finding work Dan. It settled but <hes> Andy for me. It was actually pole position no Chris I'm serious. It's a racing passing game I would act. I actually finished the game twice both time. I'm not GonNa say what I was doing. I was partying and I finished game twice down. So one quarter finished a game pole position twice at the end comes out and there's like music thing and I remember I've never seen that game actually should finish before. Will I finish. He finished speaking of video games. I hate to make this about E._S._p._N.. O._C. Week but I'm going to Tuesday which would be eight days from now E._S._p._N.. Weekday number two we're going to start that morning at the El Torito and orange right there at the formerly the block the outlets at orange doing a taco Tuesday then we're all going to walk over to Dave and buster's which is like fifty feet away and we'll be play video games haven't luncheon so you could come see both places and we'll play video games with you. It's an organic organic tie into video games. What about you? What was your Dunkin? All I could spend a long time at a donkey Kong machine man. That was an awesome awesome game this far. Don't you going with great man. Plus Two is one of those games that they started coming out with like books for patterns like if you could start memorizing the patterns remember they used to have a bunch of books like Pacman and this Pacman Miss Pacman was another woman Ms Pashas actually better than Pacman. That was keyshawn game. He said he had the pattern down he could go. How far is it but in the Pacman he remembers? I want from mortal Kombat. Oh yeah that's really good finish finish tough pacman with the left hand. 'cause I got bored with the right now. It's it's insane though. To think about like what video games were then and what they've turned into now where like you can be a sixteen year old winning three million dollars playing fortnight like that like right now if you remember when I was a kid telling my parents I I WANNA grow. Let me professional video game player and that sounds like a ridiculous thing like now. If you tell your parents I wanNA play fortnight for a living. They got at least consider it right like they gotta weigh the pros and cons at this point. Look what happened atom sometime. It doesn't work. Have you ever played right. Have you ever played for night. Never neither have I go I have it's a fun game. It's basically what's that movie. Where tron know where she's dropped off got a last last man standing? Basically you know movies. There's three of them came out trilogy. Drop them off. Hunger Games basically like hunger games. That's interesting. Those Games are so complicated now like like modern video games that kids get like I watched then. I'm just I don't understand what's going on. There's so much to keep track of an actual story lines now like it's just it's just too complicated to keep up with you know not to derail everything was on TV. We cannot you're going to get emotional. Really Hotel was like just put a capital asset. Why are you doing all of this? Chase it around for three movies with all this extra stuff just go shooter ahead and all of a sudden now Canada's dead. You really did the derail. It seems like it was like it was driving me crazy. That's like going she the girl to bow and Arrow not not to derail things but if you just took out cattiness execution style then we're done then we're done you guys are really doing. It was infuriated me plus. I was high so you're watching how many how many did you watch when I watched a work zone regular T._v.. That's how you know I was high. 'cause I sat through the commercials. Yeah Dobbin their that's Jurassic Park Obsession started yeah and then it just rolled in blue and I get wow that dinosaur EXCI- key and here we are which is your favorite of all the dinosaurs that is blue blue because he he shot one week from today. What are we talking about? The Hunger Games now we're Jurassic Park play. I play FIFA and I played the Star Wars every now but I like seafood because it I don't assimilation of the soccer and it made me actually learn about about transfer windows and all that stuff then I when I when he got a new television like the salesman asked me says do you play video games and I was kind of the the average Gamer the age of forty dude. I am an adult. The average game video of Gamers is I think it's thirty seven something like that so it was like weird because I I don't know you're right. I mean intellectually truly am going yeah. I should be in that bracket in which you ask me if I played video games but just hearing him go so. Are you gonNA use this for video games going no not using this for video games the flip side though is like the younger set my daughter's eight and she's never played fortnight but she's aware of fortnight culture like you know the the floss dances and all this different stuff like she's watched youtube videos of fortnight and she actually understands the game and everything's make a living posting videos of fortnight like how to be tips and tricks and you tip that person like dollar or whatever are you going to exclusive content and people make a living showing you how to play for them in Bitcoin or just regular money coins Mason. I was trying to sell me on Bitcoin over the week. He's been trying to do that for I don't get it. I don't think anybody gets the BITCOIN thirty one years ago. This was used in the movie cocktail and cocktail came out in nineteen nineteen eight thirty years ago eighty eight got carried one yeah care the one little John stamos and the beach boys he was a beach boy stamos for that for that one moment in time for that one moment in time. He's my friend do it and never heard of the beach boys before they saw that's why they did it. You would never I mean we didn't really do the beach I was just about to say wasn't my jail Dan. I could see where it just didn't feel organically like what you were growing up with. The super funny thing is is that the fat boys sampled the beach boys but I didn't know who the beach boys was. I just knew the fat boys part <hes>. What did they sample the bowel? Oh my God I forgot about that horrible that horrible movie. They did disorder lease that what it's called. I was this these are the things I know I have a lot of <hes>. I'm a treasure trove of useless information so jared goff entering this camp without and boy. He does look like a beach boy like He. He's Golden Blonde. He's got that remember when he first interleague. Everyone kept talking about him. Being Ryan Ryan Gosling yeah did he looked like Ryan gosling and he had a bad rookie season people saw him throw and then that was it and then all of a sudden he's not as good looking as Ryan Gosling gosling throw yes sunshine. Wasn't he sunshine and that Little High School football thank you friend of mine. Is that Gosling or was that guy it doesn't matter no matter it doesn't matter I am I realize matter so he's he's heading into this training camp without the extension and that is going to be a question question that will linger through training camp or throughout the season if it turns out that the rams don't look given that commitment until next year and it raises the question of just how good Jared Goff is compared to the rest of the league compared to his peers. I think it's pretty evident by now they you're GonNa have a difficult time. Finding a guy in the league capable of doing what Jared Goff is is capable of that you wouldn't end up having to pay like the guy the idea that you could just move on from golf bringing. Bringing a new rookie and everything would be okay or you know bring in a guy who's been around the league and plug him into a system. I think that is maybe overrating a little bit of what May mcvay does but definitely underrating what Goth himself brings to the table to me. These conversations are what people who are so caught up in the numbers in analytics. They can't see the forest from the trees so they look and they go okay well. This guy does has this and this guy does that and all you need someone to kind of do a little bit of this and you can say this much money and it don't count the other things that leadership and stability during the course of a ten year period with the franchise they they don't count those things as being valuable because it's hard to actually calculate what that means in terms of numbers and stats and such but just because you bring in a guy who can throw for four thousand yards and he's replacing the guy who can throw four thousand yards doesn't mean those four thousand yards at the same and even if you were to break down and say well he throws more accurate from twenty yards down than this guy were here that might be true that very well could be true but when he doesn't doesn't how he does it and when he gets into a huddle do they believe he can do it. Those things are hard to calculate. Those things are hard to quantify so if you got a guy who's not only is capable of executing the game plan plan but it's also someone that the team believes in and it's willing to follow a handles pressure then you don't replace that guy very easily. Yeah I mean I I've seen a lot over the time covering the rams when Gough I came in the League to where we are now that leadership issue L Z. He's grown into it like you can see the guys around him. Take him seriously and they're and by and large he's less experienced than the guys that he would be leading. I mean most of the guys that he would be leading have I've been in the league longer than him and they still take their cues from him and that's something that has to be earned especially to when you talk about a rookie season that was pretty rough and had a lot of people and I will include myself in that questioning whether or not goff was worth no trading all those picks to be under remember hearing I. I wouldn't say that I apologize. I Apologize Jared Goff. I was not already calling him a bust because I just thought it was too early but I did wonder you come. You didn't go for us. I didn't have off. I did not have all four letters but I had the be out. There and I had the other three on standby there. You go the U._S.. T were just on standby but because at that point it wasn't even an idea of okay he's going to be better than and he was as a rookie because guys just get better but the idea of being worth giving up all that draft capital to take him number one overall and then on top of it. If Jared Goff isn't worth it you can't afford to use picks to bring in a guy like Brian a guy like brandin cooks for example because you need to keep all of those all those draft picks available to help try to offset the fact that gough isn't working out like they needed goff to be really good under Sean McVeigh quickly in order to feel confident to make some of the other moves that they made so it wasn't even just about justifying having moved up to drive golf in the first place it was about everything else you could do after that he gave them flexibility and and this is where I try to tell Rosh Shaw time with regards to his favorite Q._B.. Dak Prescott so you spend too much time looking at what he can't do and not enough time looking at whether or not the players around him believe in him and they clearly do and leadership is just too hard to find and it's almost impossible to quantify. We'll be singing this a week from now as we get ready for E._S._p._N.. O._C. Week Andy what's not move the mic too much there. Is this more beach boys know that we did this already but we're doing again. Where does this you guys say? This was a real song not just for the movie Lindsey Buckingham Holiday did he was this. The one hit wonder Lindsey Powell fleetwood Mac yeah years ago years ago. The movie vacation came out from National Lampoon isn't a bit he really doesn't now. I don't know what we're just going to go faster. No one's going to answer my question. Boy Go both ways that is true boy all right the man with Stevie Nicks for years Cadet. Did they have a follow up. It's they had two more movies three or three vacation. Lindsey Buckingham Lead Anita foul of it was he was in Fleetwood Mac. I like the way to kick them out the band yeah he's been kicked out like a couple of times is like Lindsey Buckingham keeps getting back in there like no we remember why we kick you out. In the first place. They keep getting rid of them yeah kind of like did he play the Bass who Buckingham Lindsey No. He was catalysed Christine mcvie who played the bill John mcvie play the bass play this game with him. I'm not a game so we had people in wants to know John. mcvie was the baseball wants to know these Google Rosh plays the base. I know I know He. He's okay musician who knows shockingly little about music done. That's pretty good. That's pretty good. I'm pretty sure if you pulled people who they don't know who the hell Lindsey Buckingham. Is You know Lindsey Buckingham Miss Damn really ill and I'm GONNA put that up right now at CAM brothers. Do you know who Lindsey Buckingham is. We'll just see no other contexts. I'm just GONNA ask you. Does that a pole yes. Oh what did we do polls it does his count is my pole. Oh Yeah I kind of started it with your lack of institutional wisdom about me. Whenever a poll happens on the show you know who it's made possible by Buffalo Wild Wings? It's called happy hour for a reason gets. A buffalo wild wings now for three to five dollar all day deals so when so what are y'all waiting for here again happy at Buffalo Wild Wings National Chicken Wing Day or week right those two yes you can gay so what you guys what are we. We're having discussion in a break. It is National Chicken Wing Day flats or February trump. Did you guys go to flats. I think the flats are better meet. The problem is they're more work like you see I like to do that. I like to pull it apart then I eat it but you got. That's my point. It's just. You have to be patient. You got to want it. If you're going to go cry drum that's or easier 'cause like crab legs. I kind of crab legs require like apparatus and stuff like crab legs are legit hard work so we post the amazing video of when keyshawn literally took wings Outta my Eoghan Buffalo Wild Wings Wings in and he was in the corner eating them thinking. We didn't see it was an amazing moment. Why did he not want people to see it? Oh I didn't realize we're running video but he just grabbed him out of my hands like vulture. That's really bad the think about the little drummer that's is that really easy under Cook Yeah you're right and that's an angel you need well cooked wing and you need to Cook Wings little flats you you can fry those things up and you know you're safe. You might die if you eat their own drumet- wrought chicken or under-cooked chicken that is not something to play with ever like there's a place downtown whose name Sean I mentioned but they undercooked there. One time and I went off. That's horrible. You do not want to bite and see blood right gushing out. Oh whoa like that undercooked actually like blood coming out he was like I was like <hes> No. There's apparently I haven't seen it yet but I saw twitter chatter about it. There's some video C._E._O.. Of Chicken that I was undercooked and it was suspected that it's moving by itself. I think it was a trick. You think it was a trick I think so. Are you going to keep moving the Michael morning a chicken. I know but it squeaking okay I apologize. I didn't realize that was picking up. I mean and you didn't hear it. <HES> NO I did not ask that's good knowledge any well I will. I will keep it where it is another Mike. I I just like a performer. I move it with me like I tend to move around a lot in a seat so I moved the mic before me. I am performing artist. Yes I art Chris. This is all part of my process Chris moving around the microphones part of my process which dodgers Andy <hes> they took some switch yeah it is aggressive took two out of three against the nationals over the weekend lost eleven to four a tough day for Walker bueller tough day for Jock Peterson at first base and experiment that I think everybody would like to see and most of all Jack Petersen himself. He is taking one for the team in this instance <hes> with Max Muncie having to play second and now you've got Keith Hernandez and Chris Taylor both on the I l. for an undetermined amount of time <hes> Kiki Hernandez the the hand injury that he's dealing with dodger being very cagey about what exactly is going on. He's now going to be there. The dodgers made a trade trade by the way bringing in Kristopher Negron <hes> way what Kristopher Negron <hes> to help Schlab Middle Infield <hes> but for the time being though I don't picture him as a starter could end up wrong so I think you're gonNA end up with this kind of makes <hes> makeshift infield going on whereas chase utley doing retire you still retirement is he. Just hanging out is he available is he still in the city. I mean these are the luxuries that you have ultimately when you've got a fourteen one and a half game lead in your division like you feel comfortable doing something like taking a guy like Josh Peterson and playing him way way out of position. I don't think they feel comfortable. I think to your point they're doing what they need to do to patched work things that can get somebody in there but this is where we talk about what we fear when it comes to baseball just in general and my biggest fear he does actually isn't the Infield and it's not the outfield is actually are pitching. Even though are pitching has been obviously received very very good when you think about the names that are attached to some of these great numbers we see there's something that's a reoccurring theme injuries and the fact that we haven't necessarily had that yet worries me if he hasn't already had it and now we're past it then I would feel better Berea Kershaw Hill Hill. He's guys all these deal I mean Kenley Jansen is heavy jess weird issues with his heart and the timing of when these injuries can occur no one has any control over so while you're not happy to have jock Petersen plane I because these quite frankly is not very good at he's not that Nimble and Blah Blah Blah is fine. It's not his fault. What worries me more is the fact that we haven't had that book hit yet and I'm afraid I'm more prone to think is coming hasn't gotten here yet then? We're GONNA avoid it for the rest of our I mean but this is ultimately why you know at first glance. The dodgers being linked. Noah syndergaard wouldn't make accents. You're looking at their starting rotation talking about maybe bringing in a fourth starter. Why would you be that concerned about bringing syndergaard a it's about making sure didn't go somewhere else but be it's the idea of there is potential for Gylfi in that starting rotation? Yes I mean richhill is always one blister away from being unavailable for a month. Kershaw has had these back issues that are not going to be going away. You know really as great as he's been. This year has a long long. Well documented history syndergaard syndergaard just makes it so you're never without an option and then you get into that seventh or eighth inning and the dodgers need to make sure that they're not relying on guys either that make them nervous or just the idea that okay the bullpens always a bit of a crap shoot. You just go out and get a guy. Just go out and get a guy that you can plug in seventh or eighth inning. You need to go out and get the best guy yeah like and I recognize that usually seventh eighth inning guys aren't where you WanNa spend your capital but this is is as good a year as the dodgers are going to have to win a world series and there are only so many times you can keep going back expecting the win not do it and then go back again and think you can do it two seasons ago Andy when we made the TRAE for Darvish at the deadline it was patchwork in my opinion. The Best Guy was ver- lander. We went out to something that was cheaper and it didn't pay off last year. We didn't go out to something that's necessarily cheaper. He just impact on the postseason where we had hoped we thought he was going to be the hot bet we needed to put fear in opposing pitchers. He ended up cooling off and that's the reason why we made an offer but not really like you know. We'll see you later this go round. No one's GONNA fault. The dodgers offers for going all in on trying to get the best reliever. No is going to the dodgers going all in and trying to bring in for now. I can tell you right now like if you're a dodger fan and I know the dodgers are really good at evaluating the prospects and if they feel high on these guys it's likely.

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Hour 1: Jim Nantz's House

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

00:00 sec | 11 months ago

Hour 1: Jim Nantz's House

"This is the Dan LE. Batard show with Stugatz podcasts. I wanted to throws to God. Add some. Jj Watt Chum. But I have to start here because I walked into a family dispute when I came in Greg. Cody had a two and a half hour commute. Today he's mad at his son or not telling him that there was traffic on the turnpike. That's not the interesting part. The dispute even though he came up here winded left the left his house at seven o'clock this morning arrived here at nine thirty but when his son saw him his son got him for or Christmas. The shirt he's presently wearing which you would think. Hey that's Nice Dad's wearing the shirt. I got him for Christmas but Chris looks at his father and says do you have have any other shirts. You just keep wearing that one. And then the question was posed to Greg. How often do you wear shirts before you wash them? And he said three three or four times which is disgusting by itself. I also think it's low. I also think that if he says three or four times he's asking for the the fact that he'll wear shirt seven and eight times. I think this is something that happens in your sixties. When you've been married for a long time you just find a handful of things that are comfortable? I don't see him every day. A little obsessive obsessive in in all areas of life and by the way. Chris told me about the traffic today. Did he really. Oh I wouldn't doubt it I'm Christopher as a as a dad as a good guy. I text Christopher to say big traffic on on turnpike south. If you haven't left yet don't do what I'm doing right now. He texts me right back on. Yeah I knew about that. I'm sailing along on. I ninety five. Did he tell me that. No so. I'm crawling can we get back to your dirty shirt habits. Play Rather I've it's been a week. Could maybe even more winded grant you to. We love my shirt. It's been what can you not hear me. Can you hear me hear your son. It's like you're doing a show by yourself. It's three minutes and you've steamrolled him. Every time he talked he had to say. It's like you don't know we're doing a radio show and that other. The people need my time. I'm sorry for you. You'd be alarm. I got a lot of say in Greg's defense. He was trying to speak to so I've seen we knew five times in two weeks. You're wearing that shirt. Every single time I liked it makes data data. When you fix your microphone still ahead instead of Mike? Wow the headsets. UNPLUG the headsets sets. Yesterday I never played them back. Igli Zach Lowe's fall to use the studios. Took my headsets out. Put them in Greg's place and then I took my back and did not. I think I think it's almost it's somebody else. Zach lowe point of his career. I'll tell you it's a fact. Act South out of here. Go sit outside happy new year. I mean that's facets acids it's ever happened and could God good God greg not my fault. I'm Mike fell off. Your might say headsets that sets the green undershirt is a bizarre choice. He just said back to back sentences. It's not my fault. The MIC cord fell L.. Doubt and then the next sentence was my knee hit. So who's fault peaceful. Rama's Chris Finish always walk into the wrong penalty box again. Good idea honest to God. We're doing we're doing a show with a doddering senile senile old man. Honest to God like he's just he doesn't know where the penalty monks as you showed it to in the last time he was. Here's probably claiming again that he's never been there no one who spent more time. I'm in the penalty. Box that him we this is. This is elderly abuse at this point. It real- It really is but how am I not to be frustrated by the idea that the show starts and he forgets forgets that anyone else gets to talk is this I show the year. You'd think he'd come in here. Ready to go fired up. He's just. Your father was already the worst many years ago and he just keeps adding to his record. He's the Tom Brady of terrible radio. I hadn't seen him in four weeks. Hi I'm loving this. I opened the door expecting him to be on his way to the penalty box sipping on coffee enjoying the time off from the segment is it really is and his green screen. His Green Shirt doesn't work well with the green screen so he's got like a logo in the middle of his neck. I love him so much. He's the worst. Why would he wear that? Shade of shirt heard underneath. It doesn't matter at all. Why don't you explain to the audience? What the look is it's a green shirt underneath? There's there's a chance that he's going to be locked in that room because we now have like extra security so you'd need an. Id Badge to get out of that room. And I don't think that Greg has one I'd honestly be fine if if he were locked in another room for the next three hour wearing a navy blue shirt with pink tropical trees on it and he's got a green gene undershirt. It's terrible the worst I want to ask you guys the question again. Okay because we've been propping up this man's career for for a long time. He came in here today. Lamenting that ninety percent of his readership is gone. Because now he's behind a paywall. He came in here begging for people to subscribe to the Miami Herald using his codes and name so that he could get the credit for. Because we're trying to get this dinosaur newspaper columnist to fifty fifty years at the Miami Herald. But I can't do it at this pace like I'm not going to get there when I mean we're more than a year removed from him coming in here for a mega cast at night and being drugged and confused by the lights as if he didn't know what it is that we were doing and I think at this point. We're being a a bit cruel we're being. We're being mean to an elderly person who cannot summon what he what he never had. I mean. We're all showering Greg with praise as we're saying that we love them. I mean the only people who are badgering them seems to be you and his son. He's really carried us. This first segment has braids so getting to the. Jj Watt Chum. That I wanted to start with by the way you gotTa booger. And you're right nostril. So does Clooney Jj Watt is mad. He is found An ABC thirteen Houston headlight headline that reads Houston Dash Trade. JJ WATT FIANCE TO CHICAGO. Houston Dasher a soccer team. He is engaged to a woman named key alley a Ya. Oh Hi. I'm I think I'm pronouncing that rail. Yeah and JJ WATT says of the headline Houston Dash trae. Jj Watch fiance. Jon Seda Chicago. This headline is trash Kiele or high which is her name. By the way since you didn't even bother to mention it is incredible entirely on her own merit and deserves to be treated as such. Be Better than this. I mean it's hard for me to argue. Jj Watt just sit out. I mean I know you're chumming. The water go slammed. Jj Watt. I'm kind of past the days of slamming. Jj Watt. I think I've made my point. He's having a little run here so perhaps I'll have an opportunity again but I mean it's hard to dispute what I am now officially mad at the Metoo Movement for what they've done this through God's he's just he's just totally terrified of going after. Jj Wise having run. That's his. That's his house. Jj Down Down you know. He's not data and he's got one functioning arm and he had one functioning sac in the last game. I mean it was a big crowd of fired up on the sidelines. They got the team. All fired up brought some energy to that stadium so you see only kick him when he's down. You have nothing to say when he takes because that's his move. His move is to do the popular thing publicly. I thought this would be really loud. Hit his move is defending women and he should and he's totally right but jj ag what loves being totally right publicly. He doesn't like to be totally right quietly. It seems like you have taken the baton. My it seems strange to me. You're you're such a coward should seem strange to you. ESPN radio is presented by progressive insurance with insurance for cars homes boats motorcycles our RV's commercial vehicles at one eight hundred progressive. Ed Progressive Dot Com. Here's your sportscenter update. Wow Big news. Yeah you see this rule news. WHOA that's a surprise you guys? It is okay so much more about it next in your obsession. Huge steel steal difference between him. And Sean Payton talking through me. Because he's wearing his headphones on hot cattle cattle that's a witch's cauldron Aldrin to like. How many times did you say mid segment? Roy is come in here to switch the sportscenter copy. How many times? This was huge breaking news I saw in the lower third on our simulcast on. ESPN CBS News. And I was like Whoa because the original Uh sports that are had Mike Nolan has defensive coordinator for the Dallas Cowboys. We're still hiring. Might note okay. Back to God's ear everything's a little sluggish January. 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Donlevatar D- Hodie decides to give his opinions on things right when we're coming back. He started gambling about. Don't you hate the phrase controlling your own destiny. Destiny can't be controlled right. Ah Oxymoron Stugatz fully thought you were going to go with take the data. That's what you're I'd say I'm saying that's I love you. You didn't say I love you back. You're mad at me. Put It on the poll gear mountain. Gods throw it. I love US only get get. I love that Gregg. I love you I love you. Feel better these Donlevatar show with these two guys on. ESPN radio download the vivid seats APP and enter Promo Code. ESPN TWENTY-FIVE AT checkout to get ten percent off your next order. Don't buy just any sleep. Get a vivid seat. My what went into the decision making process that resulted in MC Hammer's the addams family being played there. Oh the ADDAMS groove. I forgot I had it in my library library. I was scrolling through them. Like isn't that funny. Well why don't you get the time. That's God's was mean to Mc Hammer and defensive me the pit bull. Who claimed that I should understand? He's he's a coward when he's the one defended my honor against that bully. Mc Hammer a twitter writes in. I'm surprised I thought. Jj Jj Watt would be mad because ABC only showed him thirteen hundred ninety eight times during the broadcast of this past weekend's game instead of the fifteen eighteen hundred times he thought he was entitled to this has been the Stugatz wheelhouse for awhile. Beating up on. Jj Watt Jj Watt. What are you laughing about? Career never remember who was calling the game but one of the broadcasters at one point said because Jj Mike W goes I think JJ being miked up of course he does. I mean he So Captain America he comes in and he gets the sack with one on one functioning arm. These people are insane by the way did you. You guys see what Zakar was playing through. He's one of the healthy people on the broken eagles and he had two broken ribs a fractured rib cage and a problem problem with his kidney. Yeah yeah forget the sideline reporter but they asked him about his injury and he's like actually running is bad. It's breathing that hurts crazy right. How do you play you play against cloudy? Defense that way toward all I mean that is part of the thing that they do there and not well would be another way of saying the only two catches But God at this point in the season these guys are so. Oh fundamentally broken. I feel bad for the eagles that the eagles couldn't get anybody healthy. This season Carson Wentz. I believe I have the stat outright. I believe he's the first quarterback to ever throw for four thousand yards without a five hundred yard receiver correct without without any receiver on his. I know all right. I don't i. I didn't think that that's like a math riddle. I think I have that right. But I don't have time to check it because I got to play the sound of stugatz viscera eating. Mc Hammer in the defense onto my honor hammer. Your most famous time was twenty years ago so naturally when people have you on the radio they're going to want to talk about twenty years ago. You get that right right. I'm just wondering if you get that because you're being rude on a radio show and I'm just wondering if you get that if Italy more famous two decades ago then you work today and that's what people wanna hear about. You are a genius. Yes yes I am. It hurts me every time I heard a little heavy handed again. But it wasn't a counter. Now you're not a coward our that's why I think that you're a brave and noble soul. Mike Are we allowed to play get cleared from Fox the Shannon Sharpe sound of him. Viscera Eating Orlando Landreau. Sandra Sandra yesterday on their broadcast Sandra scandals scandals. Excuse me that's two dollars. It's a clearance you'll let it slide. It was a rough first segment. You guys see it though. Did you guys see what is that I'm talking about. I did not. I did not. I thought it was great. It's uncommon uncommon to see that on television where with out any decorum whatsoever. Basically Shannon in sharp Told Orlando Scandal. That he wasn't any good at football and that's the reason that he was sitting next to him arguing with him and it was. It was a little bit hard to watch watch but it was a little bit hard to not watch him. He basically dismissed his twelve years of experience. Basically saying you never played a full season. Yes US and It it's not something that a lot of people in sharps position would do. But I WANNA get into what was happening with you guys Where you got all excited about Matt Rule? The former temple coach and the phone rang Baylor coach with a soap opera. Surprise the Dream Team have of his. The giants neglected signs deal Overnight here my agents very busy. He's got both rural and McCarthy rich getting nice substantive percentage was wondering before the show. Why Marvin Lewis wasn't allowed to sleep at Jerry Jones House while interviewing? It doesn't seem fair and McCarthy a whole night with the guy every dinner slept over they had conversation perhaps a bottle of Johnny Walker blue and Marvin Lewis poor nothing. Oh you got a fifteen minute interview. Fifteen minutes they'd get an inter- I wonder if that was a a rooney rule interview. Yeah you wonder it'll be some benefit do the Rooney rule interview in the Front Yard Mike you come with me. We're going inside to be fair. They said that he might be in line for a defensive coordinator position because he impressed in l.. or I'm just kind of wondering now. What a sleepover looks like between Jerry Jones and Mike McCarthy we've been making s'mores we've been wondering about that impressed that much because the cowboys hired Mike Nolan of what we have to? We have to get STU. Gods wanted to get badly into the idea of peyton manning and Tom Brady spending time in. Jin Gymnasts is back yard like we need to talk more genetic. These show aim free time for some ads. We gotta get into the backyard up. Gymnasts do you have any you have any well. Let's let's David Save all of your thoughts on gymnasts backyard until the next segment or it must be right. It has to be you imagine Augusta. You mentioned opening up the doors to Jim Nancy's backyard and whatever a replica. Augusta's back there. I just want a picture of Dan. Patrick Golfing and gymnastics backyard. The masters music just starts playing as soon as you open the back door. Let's face it. Most close New Year's resolutions are hard to keep getting more exercise. Save more money well. 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Think advance at any time one in four batteries about the fail. Get a free battery test. Ed Free Installation in with any automotive battery. Purchase only at advance auto parts for all the latest headlines and information tune into sports center on. ESPN radio all throughout the day. What is the clean up required on the Philadelphia Eagles Stat that I gave earlier Stugatz so they had three well even have a wide receiver? North of five hundred yards yards did have three guys in the team Mile Sanders a running back Dallas guttered. A tight ended Zakar. It's also a tight end. Who had north of five hundred yards receiving this year but no wide receiver four thousand yards? He threw for more than four thousand yards but didn't have a wide receiver over five hundred yards in Philadelphia but is that stat as good as this one one stat of the day startled easiest out of the day start of the day. Start of the day this stat of the day. Startup the start of the day in this year stat of the day. Start up the day. Start of the day fitness the start of the day. Ah Ah EH. Philadelphia had four starters who were all cut not from two teams each since August. Thirty first. Worst that's what they were trying to put together at the end with their their forty year old quarterback through five passes all season and it has never played a playoff game. We were questioning. How much talent the Dallas cowboys actually had on yesterday? Today's show I don't know what the exact answer is but I'm pretty sure it's more than a division champion. Yeah I the division champion. Took them out at the end with all of those injuries. And and with four starters who had been cut from two teams each Greg Cody of the Miami Herald in with us We Will Get to this coaching nonsense. That you guys are so obsessed assessed with when I you know I. It's very frustrating to me. The way that people get all excited about the new guy. Who's got the new smell? Who's going to do the the new things with the new secrets? When we don't know what Mike Zimmer did Sean Payton we don't and if we were going into that game we would have all taken Peyton? If we were going into the New England game we would have all taken bill belichick over Mike Gabel. It's not so much about the panthers hiring that rule that doesn't excite us. What excites us is? What are the giants get to do? What does that mean for the New York? Football giants did Bella check. Make a call. Josh mcdaniels. Tom Brady what does it mean. All right well. The last last time they had a big higher to make it was Pat Shurmur who they decided to go. which is I mean Pat? Just the even the name. Pat Shurmur is boring. Shurmur sounds like somebody mumbling could mean that they just wanted more power in Carolina than after reporter. Dave gettleman in New York or Shurmur was just a placeholder. Because you knew it was coming this off. Season Dan so he said you know what let's get Shurmur no way. He's six around more than one season. And Guess Who's going to be available next season Billy B before we get to that though and before we get to some Mike McCarthy looks like because it's been a while since we've been able all to poke fun at Mike McCarthy. I believe the winner so far in terms of what Mike McCarthy looks like is he looks like an unemployed Elvis. Impersonator Right Out of costume. I believe that that's the that's the winner so far. But I've got some others here and I want to see what you guys think before we do that though. I been remiss in letting these four minutes. Let's go by without talking a little more gymnasts backyard. So you were saying the Peyton manning and Tom Brady. It was a funny back and forth. There was a funny exchange. I saw where Tom Brady was accusing Peyton. Manning of of wiring. The painting was accusing. Tom Brady of wiring during their locker room. So he had to talk to his coaches in the shower. They did when they were going back and forth on that. What else do you imagine the? Why are they in gymnastics backyard? Why are they doing this interview there? Well Jim Nance they needed some alone time. You know some some you know a place where they could tell secrets if they can have a discussion but also relax and so they broke into gymnastics house and went to his backyard Why because he has the seventh hole of Tabby? Why do you why do you have them breaking breaking and entering? Well that's that's the episode of Payton's places. Okay yes yes broker and I can't wait to get to the show. I mean I'M GONNA skip right to this episode ten weight in that so you've waited all of this time telling us for months that you were going to watch a broken and suits. It appears golf. Clubs and balls setup. I guess for this break in pain. Manning suits infuriating patterns. He mixes patterns like crazy. She's like Oh my God houses so close to that green. He must be like bust a window a month. He has two absolutely buddy has so he has the seventh home of Pebble Beach replicated in his backyard and like you'll host tournaments back. There's little par-three tournaments he has. PGA players come out to his house like bill watching a video of Billy horsh hitting hall of one for a lot of money and there are like a gallery alary back there. And they're all cheering on billy horseshoe. Ib gymnasts backyard is the nicest thing I've ever seen a now begs the question. Why does he not have a replicated whole from Augusta? I mean I'm guessing Augusta said no way. You can't do that like our whole our whole. Wait a minute within the ability to tell Jim Nance that's what he can do with his backyard. Jim Nance just wouldn't do that out of respect for it even ask Chris. Cody Chris Cody Cody. Asked me during the break and I do believe something that should be on the twitter poll. Does Jim Nance make love and a sweater vest ahead and put that on the poll. You guys have any the thoughts or any other things that you want to discuss as it relates to gymnasts backyard. Throw it out there. I thought we'd have more than this. There's no pool which is a little disappointing. I I would hope you'd make like a water hazard and that'd be like your pool but I guess if you're replicating US Pacific whole and there's no water has you can't just make a pool because that's a good idea and a sandbox instead of the trap broke in. But if they if he knew that they were coming over does he opened the door and say hello friend. That's the way you imagine. Agim opening the door to any guests. Your guy when you ring his doorbell like it just that that comes over speaker out the front door hello friend you have him. Sort of opening the door into a world with A lot of cartoon animals like is that kind of is that Vin scully's agnostic. But I do imagine when he opens the sliding glass sort of the backyard. There is a humpback quail breaching. 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DCC is the Dan Le Batard show with two guys on ESPN radio. Ryan Clark to join the show in about fifteen minutes on the Shell Pennzoil performance line reminder reminder that Golic and Wingo will be live from New Orleans Monday January thirteenth covering the College Football National Championship. Brought to you by the new gas powered. George Sprinter from mercedes-benz. Happy fifty sixth birthday to show favorite Nicholas Cage. Happy Birthday Live Day to him. I don't care good luck. One of the greatest stories ever told on this show was Nicholas. This gauge Fighting was at Bret Michaels. was He fighting Bret Michaels or was it another heavy metal person at And fight for Motley crue Vince. Neal yeah during the day he was fighting him during the day in a carport. A Vegas Hotel. I think both of them pretty drunk in a fight broken up by carrot top now. They weren't fighting Vince. Neal was fighting with someone else. US and Nicholas Cage. Try to stop the fight by embracing him putting his hands on his face is like why are you always doing this. I love you you need to stop. They leave he was wearing an electric blue suit. The details of the story escape me even as I said it was one of the greatest stories ever told all you need to know though and one of the names exists. gave me as well but Vince Neal Nicholas Cage carrot top. It was like a Tuesday morning and vague at the Aria. Mike nailed it on the blue suit. I have the video here. It's great in a fight. Rogin up by carrot top is one of the great phrases of all time anything preceding that super put it on the poll Gamble is quoted in a fight Roeken up by carrot top one of the greatest phrases of all time. So here are some questions for you guys. I have a question for you before we move on. We all assumed carrot top has got to be at your wedding. The he was the dates were even dark at the Luxembourg we thought for sure. CT would be either and CTO. Wasn't there. I thought he was going to be there to in fact can we go down this path. Now tell us some of the cool people you invited wait a second. He no showed your wedding well. There were a handful of people apple. It'd be peed paid for plates. No no wait a minute. No no no it Ricky Williams Barkley And carrot top. I think core the liberty. No they said they weren't coming. We'll Kornheiser said they weren't coming. And by the way it's infuriating 'cause Kornheiser's afraid of flying and has to take a massive Asif amount of drugs to fly but then I find out they're going to beat. PT Is doing the Super Bowl from Miami announced that some bowl bleep right there. Anything you're weddings bigger than the Super Bowl Dan I don't think think my friendship with them should be better than their friendship with football. They think differently clearly so Mike McCarthy does he look like a live. I rendering of a political satire cartoon at those Mike McCarthy looks like he's the person who says fancy meeting you here to the box of donuts he brought in yesterday does he look like the guy who sprays the Broccoli at trader Joe's. I remember that one. That's a good one specific one does does he look like the guy who starts laughing with a mouthful of French fries. That laugh quickly. Turns turns to choking then after composing himself he leans over and says that was a close one trader Joe's Iraq. I like this one right here. Mike McCarthy looks like the manager of a fast food restaurant who bellows. If anyone needs me. I'll be in my office as he jostles his way into. The undersized is employee bathroom those are all pretty good. Yep So send them. Because we're happy to have Mike McCarthy back in our our lives again. We didn't know we were going to be this happy to have him back in our lives again. At least I didn't. Now The Dallas cowboys did something that was safe and pretty uninspired yes they did they pick the the veteran white experienced coach. but what surprises me is that he's of a stature. Where is he going to take everything? Jerry Jones's dishing and he may have a stature but he also didn't work last year. The football moved on. Just fine without Mike McCarthy having a job last year and so whatever stature as my guests is that Mike McCarthy's a whole lot more eager to make an impression on Jerry Jerry Jones and Jerry Jones was eager to make an impression on him. And the first word you hear out there where they're not jerry. Jones is loyal to his people. Jerry Jones is loyal to his employees. He's and evidently they're going to keep the offense coordinator they're going to like Mike McCarthy's willing to work with. He's willing to work with the staff that Jerry Jones put together. I mean Mike. McCarthy is a six eighteen winning percentage nine playoff six of the times they went to the playoffs. You want at least one game has the super bowl but no one seems to want to give him the credit for that it all goes goes to Aaron Rodgers. Much of it goes that people will say he should've done more with Aaron Rodgers. And by the way you can't say that Jerry Jones wasn't loyal to Jason Garrett he Jason Garrett a long long time to win a super bowl Calintaan Calamar though the offensive coordinator their former Boise say quarterback which makes me feel hello. Old is considered a bright young a young mind and would be like snagged up if he were unrestricted. So Greg Cody our football expert. When Owen one four on his picks he's been picking games for three decades up and he went own for this week? And I've told you guys this before. Okay Charles bricker. Former sun-sentinel columnist used to pick games all the time and one week he went Olwin. Whatever Owens sixteen fourteen on his record greg cody still has that on the wall of his off do part of the rare club? Yes you're the club. But so so cody. Says he got bricker. D- he goes was so. How do you do this for three decades? Greg Cody has been picking games. You're an expert at picking games and you get all of the wild card games wrong wrong one of them after another because you stink. You never know who is Dan. School Greg Cody on E._S._P._N. radio.

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Chiefs Super Bowl LIV Preview Episode 2-4

Kingdom Radio

00:00 sec | 10 months ago

Chiefs Super Bowl LIV Preview Episode 2-4

"And welcome back to Kingdom Radio on our on our episode two of the Super Bowl. Addition here uh-huh and we're going to get right into things. I WANNA touch base briefly on on one thing. Jimmy Kimmel had a great skit where he convinced forty niners honors fans who betrayed their team and put on chiefs gear saying that they didn't want to travel from California to Kansas City to catch the reaction and she's fans and I thought that was rather funny because well he got a lot of forty niners fans to portray their team and put on chiefs gear. And and so take a look at that. Also also I want to tell you guys about my friends. Crane Brewing Company. They have they came out with the Champ Stamp Blonde Ale for the Super Bowl Part of the proceeds go to fifteen and Mahoney's foundation And look at the closest bar to Arrowhead stadium or brewery So get out there and check those guys out against Crane Brewing Company Home in the Champ Stamp Blonde Ale. So let's get right into this Chris. The forty niners letters are confident. But but so the chiefs. So what would you say you know. As far as cost a confidence levels. Wi- wi- are the chief so confident. What do we have to look forward? Two here I believe that the chiefs aren't reasonably confident. We have developed into view most complete team on both offensive and defensive sides of the ball As the season progressed We we haven't peach but we are peaking and we're definitely on the upped upswing On the other side of that the niners I mean at all due respect their fans have every reason to be confident in their performance. They've got stellar defense. You've got a good good offense and I honestly. I don't think that we could've asked for a like for any football fan to have asked for it better or matchup in the Super Bowl. It's Dan these two great teams. It really is even as it gets. And you know. This isn't far from chiefs memory but look we're going back up again Shanahan Mike Shanahan and his son And and let's not forget what happened in the late nineties. And I'm sure Andy Reid is gonNA come Rian The punch There's there's a lot of key assets on on the chiefs. Signed the ball to. It's it's a really really interesting mash up top to bottom and and I feel like both teams should have a ton of confidence and lookabill will be seen how this goes and forty eight short hours. I can't believe it's this close but Looked two teams going at it here so Chris. Let's talk about. Let's go back to the regular season here a little bit. San Francisco had three three losses on the season. And the chiefs had four And so look the quarterbacks to San Francisco lost to our Matt Ryan Lamar Jackson and Russell Muscle Wilson the four quarterbacks that the chiefs lost to Shawn Watson Ryan Tannehill Aaron Rodgers and Jacoby. So out of those you know four what stands out to the most and you know what can we take away from these losses and give you any more hope for for the chiefs. The San Fran has lost Lamar Jackson and Russell Wilson you if you take Matt Ryan Out of the picture from the niners side. Every single quarterback is a mobile quarterback they can extend the plays and move around and remove the pocket. Okay and get it open space See Open passing lanes for takeoff and that adds additional pressure pressure to the linebackers and to the secondary Gary and I think that the chiefs are going to be able to really take advantage of that in this game. I'm not saying that Garoppolo's mobile by I think that patch John's is going to be much much deadlier with his running ability than Garoppolo. We'll be I'll say this Jimmy Garoppolo has one of the worst. QBR's in the League while under pressure while the plays extended. So that's something that I I saw that I really wanted to hone in on and say that we get pressure on him. He's not a good quarterback under pressure and on the flip side you know with San Francisco's front four and Patrick Mahomes. Patrick Mahomes Mahomes t tops in the league when it comes to extending place. So that's one demographic but I thought was really interesting to touch base on another thing just to throughout their stats is on the year. Garoppolo only have sixty two yards rushing and see an patrick mahomes top op that you know in two games in the playoffs and darn near one game and the play offs with two rushing touchdowns it is is that what he has been in the playoffs to has one. Okay all right. So let's let's talk about this match up a little bit you know. We're covering more ground than I thought we would. Let's talk about the Jimmy Garoppolo verse. Patrick Ashkali homes matchup because grop low is as a good quarterback. He's shown a lot of promise. He has extremely great Record the starting quarterback as Mahomes does but mahomes decides that other level in every everyone knows that Better footwork better pocket. It presents a better arm. Better under pressure Better reading defenses. you know top to bottom. There's really no comparison for Pasha Mahomes in the league. So how can Jimmy Garoppolo really take advantage of you. Know his his weapons that he has Because there's a lot there with let's see what else pull up this forty hours depth chart here real quick You know you're talking about Deebo Samuel George biddle manual sanders and most. There's there's a lot of a lot of weapons there. So how can we contain this. And what is the matchup comparison. They're with moms and Jimmy Garoppolo just to Through some additional stuff out there everybody in and their mother is talking about how the niners are a in running team. You can't call a team that threw for four thousand yards on the year. A running. They might be a run first team. But they've got very good balance in their back and Garoppolos huge component to that He threw for twenty seven touchdowns this year Thirteen receptions and For him he's GonNa have to be able to allow the place to develop And let his let his receivers get open which is really GONNA be the same issue for the chiefs? Whichever team can get their quarterback? We're back the most time is more likely going to end up seeing the the super bowl trophy in their hands at the end of the game. Garoppolo needs to find find the kindle and Sanders really to have the most success. I think Samuel's GonNa get a lot of targets but I think that he's going to be more of they. Big Play component as opposed to a consistent. Find your rhythm. It's sort of receiver for the quarterback. It's you know it's a scenario where I feel like there's certain elements that are going overlooked and I'm going to say it's on the Kansas City side of the ball On on defense ends and the offensive line Both of those components are highly overlooked. I'm really interested to see you know some D. Ford Eric Fisher matchups ups and and and you know the rest of the Defense Defensive Line Bosa and all them but it's our offensive line is is just as talented as the defensive line And and our defense isn't getting enough credit so I feel like if we can if the chiefs can do. They've done consistently through the playoffs and turn the forty niners into one dimensional team. It'll be a long game for San Francisco touch on something has had me really upset the last two weeks Everybody has been talking about how we're in trouble in this game because the niners are running the team and we can't stop the run. Did they not just watch what we did against Tennessee against the tax against the last six teams that we face in the regular season we stopped the running game we stopped the unstoppable forced I and Derrick Henry exactly exactly and and yet our defense is still not being given the respect that they are do it just baffles me. You know what I keep hearing and this is a true statement. There's a lot of speed on the offensive subside of of the ball for the forty niners But I don't think that they're giving the Kansas City chiefs enough credit on the defensive side of the ball with speed. There's plenty of speed to go around especially in the linebacking core and it's fun to watch plus but the landlord doing his thing Charleena's ward having a a great season. There's a lot of things that take away from the chiefs defense and that defensive line it's it's this is not. This is not going to be an easy game for either side of the ball but I still no matter what they say The chiefs are getting enough credit. Yeah absolutely and you know about taking anything away from the niners. They are a fantastically well-designed team. But with all what do respect to them does. The chiefs are being overlooked in so many different aspects of this analysis by the mass last media. All they talk about his offense and always talk about instead niners defense both of these teams have great offenses and greet defense. We have better speed on offense and we probably utilize it better and were more balancing our In our distribution distribution distribution of the ball. But you know our defense has absolutely been in performing better then the niners defense over the last half of the season and certainly the playoffs although we yeah we don't have the sacks to show it but you look at what we did to stop the run. You look at what we've done to shut down the passing game Aside from really bad starts to both games. The last three quarters of games we have shut these guys out. Yes and so yeah like you said. It's just an element that's really going overlooked. And I I look for the chiefs to explain more You know of forty niners weaknesses than than the forty hours can explain the chiefs because there's really not too to many with the chiefs and these are fifteen minutes sigma folks. We're going on twelve minutes here and this we have two more segments coming up Figured we'd do a little something different here But let's see. What else can we talk about here? I mean there's so much talk about so many great matchups I just what is your key element here. As far as the defense stopping. The forty niners offense is really going to be a matter of setting the the edge and four for all the way. The game's going to develop we need to force the niners to have to run to the outside yes And then when that happens we have to set the edge which is going to play right into her hands. Because I I feel very much feel that other within the niners unlike the niners. Excuse me We have Secondary doesn't be willing to come down and make tackles at least seen all year. Long are cornerbacks. have no problem sticking their nose in there and making tackles and is. We're forcing moster earth. Rita Rita Coleman whoever they throw at us Even Joe Wilson and as long as we keep them running to the sideline. We're good as I as the moment that we let them start running towards the end zone. That's when we'RE GONNA be in trouble. That's why it's important for us to control that defensive tough line that's extremely important and like you said. Make them go lateral instead of vertical because our speed Really compensates for anything. The that they're they're trying to do laterally sideline to sideline and we can absolutely slowdown that offense and again. This is going to be a testament to the linebacking corps. You're going to end the honey badger. I feel like it's going to be huge game from from both. It's GonNa take the whole defense but as long as they keep Jimmy Garoppolo honest heels slowdown that running game like you said. Keep them from going vertical. The chiefs really have a great shot To win this game Chris. Were going on one minute here right now. Is there anything that you feel like. You should add. Add to this episode before we move on. Just one thing. I think it's GonNa be really interesting to watch both of these offenses and beanie the Trick plays at both of the offense of minded coach. Going to be throwing at the defenses and I to watch. It's great it really is. And that's the thing is you're GonNa see two brilliant minds going at it and it is going to be a battle we all know the Shanahan mindset and look as a brilliant family as much as we hate to say it. And we have Andy Reid and Eric and Steve spags and look look look out for the special teams too. Because we have a special teams that can take the top off of anyone league and McCall Hartman Has the speeds are the speed and the moves to do it. So chief King of this is episode number two will. We'll be moving on to our next fifteen minute episode here soon Thank you for tuning in.

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9-24-20 - Mo Egger With Jon Marks

Mo Egger

10:05 min | 2 months ago

9-24-20 - Mo Egger With Jon Marks

"I it's a four twenty on ESPN fifteen thirty I'm Oh let's go to Philadelphia John. Marks afternoon hosts ninety-four wip Philadelphia he and I think the last time we chatted the eagles were coming to Cincinnati and they were awful and the bengals were awful and since then the eagles have onto the cycle where they've won a super bowl and the bengals are still awful nonetheless, I've got a lot of questions about the eagles. It's nice to have you here how you've been. Good well I mean listen. There's and Eagle Fan I'm not all that good. But like you said, GonNa, try to remember the Super Bowl but here's the thing about the Super Super Bowl. Is. It's over this year right? Like people on Carson Wentz done. They want Doug Peterson out the GM out. So it's actually back to normal in Philadelphia. Thankfully. So I I. Ask About Carson Wentz let me start with Doug Peterson though because after they won the super bowl, I wrote this piece about how man I wouldn't Marvin Lewis to coach like Doug Peterson. Now I'm not sure I want Zach Taylor coach like Doug Peterson. Yeah, it's interesting I people are wondering if Doug had like Doug didn't get lucky in two, thousand, seventeen he coach he was on a hot streak and he coach very well as playcalling. Excellent. He had balls right? Like he took it right to bill bell check he he like the the sound from the super bowl with the rams and the Patriots where McVeigh before the game is just kissing bill checks ring Doug Peterson wasn't doing that he was not scared and he knew they could beat them and they did I don't know what's happened since then right? I think you're you're getting a combination of with the eagles is you're getting an aging roster of guys that won the Super Bowl that are way past their prime and some younger guys that are just being drafted now. But ultimately, when you look at the eagles drafts it, they've been terrible and when you start having to fill your holes on your team with high priced free agents, it's really tough to do you need a younger inexpensive guys and they haven't done that so far. So and and on top of that, you know kind. Of gotten a little stale, the west coast offense that he was running three or four years ago I mean the NFL changes quickly and I think that maybe he needs to adjust some things and fresh and some things up. But right now it's a little bit of a stale product. A quarterback is is struggling in I. Think the Doug Struggling to it's remarkable I think for a lot of people here to hear you say that a coach who want a super bowl three years ago is stale after we did Marvin. Lewis for sixteen. staleness. Yeah, a lot of one saying I know that you guys can't relate it. You know it's funny when when when there's a lot of negative negatively about Carson Wentz and there's you know you'll get the idiots on twitter or even calling into the show that say Trade Carson wentz putting Jalen hurts whatever else and then you'll see other fans from other cities. Calming I'll take Carson Wentz. I'll take Carson. wentz. GimMe Carson Wentz. In the second, it's always going to be like that right so like with Donovan, mcnabb Donovan mcnabb was not love here by the majority of the fans he was you know a lot of different reasons but he was a really good player. But when you had that guy and you're kind of getting sick of them, it's easy to say give me somebody else but Carson Carson struggle. In. This year. So you know it's it's funny on our midday show they actually there they were doing doing a twitter poll and they did it as a topic earlier. Would you rather have Carson winter borough and I'll take Joe Borough I think he's a young star now in the in the bengals organization can they heard him? Of course they can but he looks like a star young star in Carson Wentz kind. Of looks like he forgot how to be a star. All right. So let's talk about that. Specifically for picks the first two games he's being asked or or the coach Peterson's being asked about easy throws. The Carson is missing Peterson snapping back at reporters. Let's talk about these first two games there has been regression from the guy that we saw a couple of years ago specifically, what is Carson Wentz not doing well I think he's calling him between and he was a guy that had never thrown interceptions. I mean I think he had seven interceptions last year he is he he's very good with the football and he's turning the ball over. He's always fumbled. That's always been a problem. He holds the ball long. So he takes a couple of more sex because he he sees an opportunity to make plays because of his athleticism. But well, I, think what you're seeing with Carson wentz is he's inbetween being the player that he is, which is at, which is aggressive, which I can make any throw and doing what the team is telling him which is, Hey, you know don't hold the ball that long you're taking sacks. Hey, you gotta be smarter with your throws. Don't take that chance with the offense gives you 'cause Nick foles was. With the offense gives you and you want a super bowl in a short time eagles starter in two thousand seventeen. But he took what what the defense was giving. He took with the offense was going to give him and Carson Wentz isn't that kind of quarterback he's not a game manager. So I think he's trying to be that for the coaches at. The same time he knows he's not that player and they're not using his legs he there's no design runs for him. He's not breaking containment and and making plays with his arm via his legs right? Like he's excellent outside the pocket he's actually more accurate outside the pocket that he used inside the bucket. He's not a pocket quarterback and they have camped. Out so much back in that pocket, it just doesn't make sense. So the the long answer to is that you know Carson Wentz, will be fine. He's got to get out of his own head because right now I just think he's thinking too much and said a plane. So last year he throws for four thousand yards there wasn't a wide receiver correct me. If I'm wrong, there wasn't a wide receiver that had over five hundred yards receiving. There was no one the outside to throw two day Sean Jackson I think is older than me. They tried to get marquees good when he ops out before the season starts Thursday there's rookies there's dudes who played quarterback in college. Is there anybody for Carson Wentz to throw to? Yeah, the the the oldest Sean Jackson like you mentioned, they drafted a rookie wide receiver, Jalen Rigor in the first round, who actually is going to be pretty good if he can stay healthy because so far, and we're only through two games. He tore a muscle shoulder during training camp and he tore a muscle in his thumb. He's GonNa be out there approximating at seven seven weeks now. So he's missing almost half the season so that they're trying, I guess right but but like you said, they re run a lot of the too tight end 'cause they've two very good tight ends and Zach Ertz in Dallas Goddard. Unfortunately. That's not the NFL in two, thousand and twenty they ran I believe it's sixty eight percent of their snaps. They have two tight ends on the field. The next closest to that's Arizona with one percent. So they're clearly running a different offense and I think the reason is they just don't have the guys right? They don't they don't have the wide. Receiver. So just like last year, they didn't have the wide receivers this year you gotta ask yourself unless you're plotting down the field in eleven twelve play drives how you scoring not a quick strike offense. They're not a big play offense outside of the Sean Jackson. So does Shawn is going to be that guy otherwise you're going five, six, seven, ten yards chunk. Offensive Line they give eight sacks against Washington week. One is that Washington's pass rushes very good. Is that went is holding onto the ball Dulong is that the offensive line's a mess? What what are we attribute that to? Yes I I. Think Washington is is that good? Yes Carson Wentz, holding onto the ball too much. I think that I think if you're being fair three of those sacks of the probably on Wednesday where he could have easily thrown the ball away and he held onto it for too long. But last week they gave up no sacks and they were playing the ransom Aaron. Donald and all week leading up to the game we were saying Oh Aaron Donald Carson Wentz is going to get killed. What the eagles give up one sack and it was three quarterback hits the. Second, and there's definitely three quarterback hits. So the the the answer is the offense was great last week and I think going forward. They've had some injuries and they've gotten some guys back Lane Johnson the right tackles back I don't think the offense aligns going to be an issue I. Don't know much about the bengals defensive line defenses and very good. But for the most part, there are pretty competent offensive line at this point. The jalen hurts thing is, what's what's the plan with him is it is it to get him snaps at quarterback if when struggles and again the eagles are favored in at home is there any chance on Sunday? We see Jalen get snaps behind center. I would be shocked me maybe outside of a trick player to I don't think that would be wise because of what the Eagles have done by drafting a quarterback in the second round is they've created a quarterback controversy to Carson wentz struggles. Then people are going to be calling for Jalen hurts, and that's already happening right I. Mean we're getting tank for Trevor Hashtags during our show lose the rest of the game. Trevor Lawrence Straight once for first round. People. See people go crazy when his team loses. So yeah, I mean I don't understand it I mean you've second round draft pick where middle of the second round towards the end of the second round where you can you can get a guy that can contribute their offense align has no depth. They have no players on defense. They're very they they. They have very little, very little talent on defense. There's no playmaker and yet they draft the quarterback and all you can never have enough good quarterbacks are yes. Sure. All right. But like it just pay Carson Wentz one hundred and eight million dollars. So why would you do that? I would be shocked if if Jalen hurts had any real significant roles outside of a decoy or maybe like one or two plays know where do a trick plays or something I want more. John. Marks WIP Radio Philadelphia Jason Kelsey is one of many former UC football players who have landed in Philadelphia and and so many of them have had success Trent Cole. I think a Brent Celik Jason Kelsey has become a perennial. Pro Bowl caliber center playing for the Eagles where is he listed in the Pantheon of eagles greats wow and you're right as far as Cole was amid round traffic and he's one of the best defensive ends in the Eagles history I mean I think he's second all time sacks and Brent Celik is also like an all time eagle to part of the the the twenty seventeen super bowl and Jason Kelsey You know what he is. He is because it's it's funny. There was a time probably in two, thousand, sixteen where. People thought he was done because he had a bad year people ready to trade them, I. Think Eagles would have traded him because his salary was pretty high and he wasn't very good. He's getting pushed around. He was a little bit light and everybody's ready to trade them and they didn't and he came back and won two thousand, seventeen his speech at the parade where he was dressed in the and the mamas costume and he's cursing and he's dropping f bombs will live in the history, of Philadelphia, forever and Jason Kelsey. Because he's such a colorful dude and he's a really good player and he and he really is like he's great for the city of Philadelphia. He represents this city everything that he does he's a good dude. He does great things in the community he will live He. He's a living legend in Philadelphia, there's no doubt about it.

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OBI Listener Questions: Driving for Carr and beasts from the east

Cincy Jungle

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OBI Listener Questions: Driving for Carr and beasts from the east

"This is the orange black insider bangles podcast. He's John Sharon, I'm Anthony Costanza. You can get this show on I tunes on Stitcher on Google play. We're also now on megaphone. We are as always on YouTube and all of our content is on since he jungled dot com. So get us how you like the best. I guess. So you had it. You didn't interesting. Vera question. I believe right. You wanna bring up? I did. Are you ready for this one John because this was this because? Foreshadowing. Now, the reason I ask is because if it's the one that I think we're gonna talk about it's because you were the one who received a lot of hell about the Ryan tannehill thing and the topic of Ryan, which by the way, I think you wrote about this as well on cincy jungle dot com. This is not Don away because mister mister Twitter, polarizing guy Benjamin Albright talked more about the fact that news came out that Alex Smith may not be able to play twenty nineteen those are the kind of conjectured anyways. But that it's as more time as passing it's looking less likely that he is going to play in twenty nineteen than you. Connect the dots of Jay Gruden who is now interviewing kenzees e as quarterbacks coach in Washington. You know, might there be a trade for Andy Dalton to Washington and ballitser today to okay there, we go. All right. So for the same position. Yeah. All right. All right. Well, see the connections there. This one comes from Jason Dickerson. Who actually I didn't realize he lives in Germany. He's he's been contact with me a lot. Most of you Email. They didn't really use living in Germany. So that's pretty cool. Another little side note. We'll talk more about the second. Anyway. So he brought up the idea. Of Derek Carr to the Bengals, and you sit here, and you go out does that make any sense. Well, you have to connect some dots here. Okay. The first is we talked about Daniel Jones earlier in the show about his performance at the senior bowl. Jon Gruden big quarterback guy supposedly really likes Daniel Jones as a prospect in as a as a potential NFL quarterback. If you remember before the season, there was kind of some some rumblings. I'll have to pull up exactly what they were. But basically Jon Gruden I think as the Monday night commentator or something to that effect was critical of Derek Carr. And there was some thought of well as Derek car, even really fit with Jon Gruden might there be some some issues in car had a decent statistical season this year. But obviously was not. Team stripped of talent before the season even began terms of trades and whatnot. Then you look at Brian Callaghan. Quarterbacks coach, which my colleague, John Shearn. Here broke the news that from the senior bowl that Callahan will be the Bengals offense coordinator. Once sat Taylor arrives raiders quarterback coach becoming the offense coordinator people potentially wavering on Dalton in terms of a new staff new head coach. So there's a lot of dots to connect here. Does it make sense to you? John. Piss some people off doesn't make as much sense as tanto because I actually just looked at Deir Carter's contract now. And he that's that's the biggie. Yeah. Right. Yeah. So it makes more sense for the raiders to cut car than for the dolphins to cut tannehill. Because I think the raiders would only occur like a half of the dead money that the dolphins would have to Rex releasing. I think they're I think the dolphins are trying to work out a for a trade for tannehill in. If they can't do the project cut him because they own twenty six million. But for the raiders, the only incur seven and a half million dead if they release them now, and they're drafting fourth over also they'll definitely be able to pick Daniel Jones. But I think if it comes I think if both tannehill in-car become available on the mortgage, I think one of them at least will I I honestly think that Taylor is gonna kinda went out that vote bringing his guy that he worked with and Miami over the guy Callaghan work with for year. Oakland. But for for the purpose of what I believe either them would come in. And be would just be that bridge quarterback for one or two years while the work on getting the guy for the future. I don't think it would make that much of a difference. But I don't think is as likely as it will be with tannehill. Honestly, because I'm just not entirely. Sure. What cars future, isn't Oakland? Because he does like this is the this is the first year they can finally move on from him. And if they are smitten with a quarterback, then there's no reason to to to, you know, keep onto that contract because liquid all the other big contracts that they had over the past six, months, whatever. But I think there's a little bit more is a little bit. There's a little bit more writing on the wall with tannehill. And I think Taylor being the head coach, and maybe even the play caller for for the Bengals kind of went out in his preference for tannin over Callahan's potential influence in bringing in car. Do you think because this was one of the questions that was brought up when you talked about the? Tannehill thing. Do you think that car who again, I think we're two years or moved from a season where he was borderline MVP guy? I mean, he had an outstanding season. He goes in twenty fifteen or twenty sixteen sixteen twenty sixteen that earned him this contract. This year threw for four thousand yards nineteen touchdowns. Ten interceptions. Not not great there. But twenty sixteen twenty eight touchdowns six receptions almost four thousand yards that year. I mean, do you see do you see those numbers greatly increasing because you know, their best players aside from car were released off the Rosser clue Mak doesn't play offense. But Amari Cooper, we saw the impact he had in Dallas. Do you think that a guy like car would if he's playing with age agreeing Tyler boy, John Ross Joe mixing, do you think that all of a sudden that is a career resurgence in your closer to the thirty touchdown single digit interception guy in Cincinnati with that talent? Or do you think that year was just a fluke of a year? And we're seeing a little bit more who the real their cars these past couple of seasons. Twenty sixteen was der cars are twenty six. Derek Carr was twenty fifteen it was when everything around him clicked perfectly. He was in the perfect system. He had probably the best offensive line of any of any team decides voice in terms of pass protection. Mark Cooper popped off. Year. Everything was clicking for the raiders. Those like the first good season in a while. And literally ended like any season where he got injured and couldn't play in the playoff game and couldn't do anything for that and ever since then just like for dawn's been more on the downhill slope. I just think that card tannehill or all kind of in that same to your quarterbacks where everything needs to go perfectly in they need that perfect team for them to do anything. But even if they get into the position of Guineans the playoffs winning. We haven't seen them actually proven that they can do that. I guess and and until we do see anything from those three they should all probably belong in that same category. And we can't really expect them to elevate a team and carry a team if you know everything around the ghost ghost crab because once the raiders receiving core diminished once their offense got banged up or they have circled Miller. We saw him struggling I think he was like the most check downing quarterback in the NFL. Whereas after target was like six or seven yards or something stupid like that. And I think he's got a better arm than. What the those numbers were? But if a quarterback has the tendency to discount kind of check down not look downfield. It's not gonna do your offense any good. If you have cast aged green in John Ross that can that can stretch the field like that. So I think car as stabbed himself as the quarterback that the Bengals should be looking to move on from. But again, if you're looking for just a bridge guide to kind of keep raffles afloat. You know, there's something really wrong with him, especially if you get it for cheaper than when he is. But I don't think that we're going to see him be any better than what he was twenty sixteen unless he consistently has a perfect offense around him which wishes what Bengals fans continue to one goal, right? And again, it comes down to cost, and you know, is Derek car substantially better than Andy Dalton is he a guy that substantially better, you'll be more expensive more substantially better than guys that are in this year's class is he like you mentioned John no more than a bridge. Wjr quarterback. If he is is that is he better than Andy Dalton it gives them a better chance to win more games than Dalton in that capacity. These are questions that are a little bit of unknowns. At this point, I think one is inclined to think that the ceiling night be a little higher for car. Based on that one season a couple of years ago in the fact that that team is kind of in fleet of talent that he's been on. And the Bengals do have kind of a, you know. A trio of talented guys at skill positions on offense all of that. So, but we'll see I, you know, it sounds like a farfetched thing. We're talking about all this all these kind of crazy quarterback scenarios. But it sounds like tinfoil hat stuff. But really I mean there are connections to be made. Here the grew to Daniel Jones just worked with him in mobile, Brian Callaghan. Derek Carr he just worked with him in Oakland for a year? You know, who knows how this coaching staff views Andy Dalton I mean, there's a lot of things in play here. So I don't think it's it's it is a little bit of a far fetched question. But I don't think it's a wacky one or a crazy one to really ask to be quite honest with you. It's just one that is a new one there are there are dots to be connected there. But interesting interesting questions for that. Jason. Hello. I'm Spencer hall from Espy nation, and I wanna tell you about my new show. It seemed smart. It seems smart as a show about people doing things that for some reason or another seem smart at the time. Those things might include doing a little cocaine and driving a bike up amount. 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We also got another Email from we adjacent from Germany, and we had Glenn from Denmark, Glenn Ellis board Jorgensen Jurgensen. I don't know. How exactly how they said your Gibson? It's the why you'll been. He said first of all, I just wanna tell you doing a great job with the podcast. I've been a regular listener for more than year. But unfortunately, I can't join in live as it's the middle of the night here while thanks Glenn will give you pass on on that we understand. Basically, he says in this this one I'm gonna leave to you, John because you probably I have some some notes on this player. But you know, you you're you said you were excited to kind of talk about this as a Dane of very excited about the draft prospect in I is it jolted guilty for volt. Yeah. Guard from Arkansas, do you think they're any chances. He's going to end up with the Bengals I will say this from my notes, and I'll let you talk pretty extensively about him, John. He's kind of a he was a four star guy in college going into college. It sounds like he's very athletic. And he's got some nice skill sets. He's like he's strong. But it doesn't always translate to the field type of thing. If that makes sense. And he it sounds like he's made some big improvements in terms of from like when he started playing football for Arkansas about twenty sixteen to now, it still seems as if he might be a round five or later type of guy based on some stuff that I'm I've been reading, but I'd like to hear your take on him, John. Yeah. So even me that the guy who does a lot of offense aligns the I have a guy that kinda tells me about offense align prospects, his name's Ryan you can follow him on Twitter at Royal red legs. You probably won't like me plug in his name because he's a movie guy doesn't always talk about lime. But he's a guy that. Ryan introduced me to. I think is his first name and he played with Frank right now, the Senator from Arkansas who was linked to the Bengals a lot. He played next in last year. And then he also fought actually did play a pinch of center this year. And he said just pop is tape on you'll see like three or four pancakes in the first two minutes doesn't what game watching all right, dude? And legit. I watched the first two and a half minutes against Colorado state when his center, and he pancake like four guys in the first quarter. And it's like the torque the lower body drive. The pop that he that he has either reach blocks down blocks. It's extremely evident in some guys. You can tell you know, like some guys need bench forty times at the combine some guys can can swallow up. This guy has actual strings and places like that that does translate to the field, and I think he's athletic enough to make those angle blocks. But when he's got his hands on you like, it's it's over. And he told me he told me what his name. Oh, yeah. Hero. His or. Or something. Right. I it literally means hero hero that. So like, obviously a first round name. Lee Jackson the first round. But he's got extremely good tape. And I think you're right. It it it did get better over time. As like the more. He kinda learning kind kinda integrated with the system he played against this competition. Obviously rag was a good player. Coming Arkansas any kinda has the similar traits. Played love guard. Like, I said a little the center, but I think he's I think he's a good prospect in like you said if you can find them in that fourth or fifth round, I think he's a definite body that you bring into camping maybe potentially compete for that right art spot because I think he's got a feature in this league as as as a spot starter just as rotational backup that gives you a lot of of scheme versatility. But has those qualities that you just simply cannot develop in, you know, a guy who has all the measurable in the talent. But if you don't have that core strength that toward the Bill to drive off blocks. You're just not gonna be successful in the long term. I think he has that right now at twenty two twenty three years old planning. It's Z guys. You know? Maybe Bengals fans to scars from drafting Margus onto draft eastern. European geyser urged Scandinavian guys, but he's a player. And I think they should definitely take a look at him. And he's got more experienced Margareta is twenty seven so. Yeah. Marcus on had the one year, and I mean, great production. But the when you're wonder type ironically markets on is gone on to have a couple of nice years with the Colt since moving on from the Bengals go figure that one out. But. I like what you said in in one of the things granted this was during the Paul Alexander Marvin Lewis era, but one of the things Bengals have coveted out of their offense of lineman versatility. In the end the ability of guys to be able to play especially the interior guys to be able to play guard to be able to play center, you know, especially those backup guys look at TJ Johnson. You look trae Hopkins look at I mean, the list goes on and on on, you know, even tried to experiment on Smith guard and tackle the there's there's a lot of guys they liked to have positional flexibility therefore to potentially save roster spots in and like you said can be able to have a spot starter. If you're in a pinch to be able to come in and play. Well, I you know, I getting this question. I've kind of wanted to now research this guy a little bit more. I looked up some reports on him in and saw a little bit about him. But I think he's a guy like you said could immediately be a guy. Hi. Who's a backup guy for a team? You know, make the team be a backup guy probably day three pick and and can can help out a team in that capacity early. And then maybe push for a starting job as he gets more time under his belt now in terms of glens question for him going to the Bengals. I mean, obviously, there's there's thirty two teams he'd go thirty two places it it just depends. But the fact that the Bengals seemingly have an open right guard position right now, also, you know, right tackle, even though this kid discipline tackle. But that that should be open as well. Clint bowling is now entering his ninth year. I believe so, you know, that's something to think about as well, there's a lot of of issue still to be resolved in this offense of line. So if there is a spot that any team that needs able offensive lineman interior offensive line. The Bengals are going. So that you know that could be a possibility for him. But good question where where we're worldwide John geyser guys are emailing us from from Germany Denmark. It's pretty cool. We'll get outta here with this last one in this was through text. And now, we're staying in the states for this one. And it's from good friend Frank from Virginia, and he jokes three weeks in a road is at count me as a regular. We usually have our regulars Terrell and John from Kentucky in a few others that call in. So Franken Virginia, I guess, I guess three weeks in a row we do answer your question that that does make irregular. So thanks for the Texan advance, Frank. We know Callahan is in and most outlets seem to have high confidence in del Rio. Haikal I'm assuming that means high confidence del Rio being defensive coordinator, he seems to him. Who who do you think are likely candidates to fill other vacant position coach openings that's kind of a difficult question because we have to kinda look out there. I think you know, you mentioned the Mike Sherman connection. He's been kind of one. That's that's floated out there. Brian Callahan's, dad Bill, you know, there's been some some rumors of that. Maybe you know, those guys linked to the offense of Lyon group. I don't know. I think they were smart to keep Livingston as as the secondary. Coach. Job with the safety there. But I think they need to be pretty. They can be pretty careful with they bring in at these other assistant marks because now you have unproven head coach basically unproven offensive coordinator del Rio is I think a good higher in the fact that he's got a lot of experience in the NFL. That's a good guy to lean on, but any other ideas or names out there. You wanna toss toss around that you think could be good fits for the Bengals in some of their position coach capacities. You've got tight ends got off its of lying. You've got quarterbacks. What medicine your linebackers? Things like that. Yeah. I'm not tremendously prepared for this question. I guess because. You don't you don't hear about these guys until they get hired right? Like unless they're like former coordinators that that got fire the are looking to get a job. I guess I know some people have doubts about Bill Callahan coming, but I think from how early that was like being reported, or whatever I think the the Bengals do have plants other swindle him away from the Redskins or because the when the buccaneers hired aeriens the Tampa Bay ended up sending a six round pick their Zona because they thought the areas of still under contract with Arizona, and they didn't even have to do it. I think that's a possibility of the Bengals could do with Washington either to establish good faith and potentially featuring dull trade or just to get. You know, Zach Taylor's former college coach in into the staff in in replace replacing all obviously because we don't know if Pollock either left on his own accord because he didn't like the direction that they were going or they just had. You know, featuring business for a guy who's even better than in that definitely fits the Bill the Bill for Kellyanne. But I'm definitely interested in seeing who the linebackers coach is going to be because you're looking at not only just a new defense coordinator. But under new head coach who was obviously defensive oriented in was a former linebacker coach of his own. You know, it could be a guy who was who worked under a del Rio or, you know, agai another system from another team who just looking for star. But over that linebacker's coach is I think that's the position in general that we will probably see the most vast difference because of how low the quality has been that position group for so long and just it's just the same kind of coaching philosophies under Louis so to have a fresh face there. And I know I'm kinda dodge the question all the name for because honestly, stall. But I just think that's really just the probably. Interesting to watch because we we should probably expect some fresh brand new floss vs brand new preferences of players at that position. Yeah. I mean, there are some some interesting names still out there one that kinda in this would be something maybe for the quarterbacks coach thing in it might elicit some I rolls. I'm not a big fan of the guy myself based on kind of some of the things that he's done. But he to my knowledge he is available. That's Joe Philbin. And he's he's kind of an offense of mind guy that I don't know again, you look at some of these position coaches he's been a head coach was fired as a head coach. And interim coach this year, you know, so he could be a guy that if you're looking for bigger names that could be floating out there. You know, there are other assistance kinda working their way up as well. Amid do not be surprised if it's a bigger name, quote unquote that end up filling some of these position coach things that we saw. The the Bengals linebacker coach his name is escaping me. At the moment. He was the head coach of the saints. They just got rid, but he had head coaching experience. And yeah, what the hell after has like gosh. It's been a long Jim has it's been a long week already. But our former linebacker coach. Yeah. Yeah. Jim has let but he was a guy that was a head coach for a long time defensive coordinator kinda took the perceived step back if you will in terms of going from NFL head coach to a position coach. So that's why if you're looking for bigger names like Philbin to be you know, he's guy offense coordinator type of guy head coach interim head coach. And then he could potentially do a quarterback coach type of thing. But they are have. They already have alexan- pelt as quarterbacks coach. So maybe he comes in like an offensive assistant. I don't know it just depends. But you know, there are big names out there that are still looking for jobs guys who. There are guys that make lateral moves because they feel they've been passed over in a specific team with any specific team. So we'll see it's hard to really kinda pull up name and say, oh, you know, this guy could be assistant coach aside from some of the names, we've already heard kicked around, but I would save you not be surprised if there are some big names that potentially get linked to a position coach position staff position as well. As do not be surprised, if you're if you're there's kind of some guy's radio who, you know, some guys that are little unproven will see thanks for all the questions tonight. Guys. We appreciate its didn't take calls and stuff. We already had a few queued up, but we're running a little long on time. So but we wanted to get to those. He can get this show on I tunes. You can get it on Stitcher on Google play on megaphone. You can get it on YouTube and on since he jungled dot com. And as always, we appreciate the sport. We appreciate all the questions for everybody tuning in live but enjoy the Super Bowl this weekend. However, you may be watching it and enjoy yourself and. 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"Oh my God are you trying no no. This is an embarrassment words offscreen drain. Some some jumpers can't drain jumpers. 'cause you're terrible so nervous yourself. Nervous face mostly so nervous. Just hit hoops tonight. But we begin with Jimmy Butler Dominique butlers. Heat one big Indiana last night and I would give you more basketball details sales but obviously they don't really matter today mostly because this reading thank you that way. TJ Warn the IT Helps Du Lac Barnes and final call their homes at the ground bowels even that aggressive the the what Jim Sanders thinks. I'm tough issues are taking. That's what healthy to say flow with no he he got. He needed that song. Because I I feel like what he said was truly disrespectful. And it's all good because We see him again. I'm scared nobody so you know he talking about the Paul. We're going to fight this just that he's not he's not even lead liked nowhere near and if if I was a coach I would I would never put him on as it's ever existed so he's like no for somebody else designs Mataz Matab if you will his physical face there was like a middle finger in there. There were two guys bumping chests so who ends up looking better here I I. I'm thinking no one does but it's nice entertainment for the NBA. But then I looked up. TJ warns that something. I wouldn't normally we do and I came out thinking hey. TJ was a good basketball player so all in all I mean. I came out with a favourable view so the fact that you learn about Jay Warren Oren today is a victory for Tj Ward right and he played reasonably good defense in the course of the game. He averaged eighteen points a game. You're actually raising a really good point but in terms as of like the masculinity dual here like this is what funny to me man. Teacher warn wasn't fighting the same fight. Jim Butler Jimmy. Butler did the thing on the court and yet TJ. Warren was there but after the game. Jimmy gave a sound teaching Warren. Did Not. And then after that Jimmy Butler went on social media and put up this. Do we have the instagram post. Because this is Jimmy Butler circling March twentieth. And saying don't be mad. You can't garden. We will see what you about in March so I was surprised that pissed that because it seemed like after the game he was still fuming and this was real like this was a fight. But then you go. This is just boxing promotions. This point and I appreciate that. I don't want them to really fight. But that's what it seems like. You're certainly game. No if you have really have a problem with somebody that's when you go to the bus and it does feel like Jimmy Butler is beginning to figure out a solution to the NBA's like lagging egging regular season ratings picked fights with everybody else. All these random people saw the bulls on there. Can you pick a fight with Otto porter for our benefit. I think it makes it slightly more interesting and maybe a little bit more. But I'M NOT GONNA watch that game because everybody was yelling at him. We are talking about it. In normal circumstances we'd be talking to football right here right laws going to say. Do you have any football player condescension when you see these MBA flights because this is a fight for this sport. Yeah I mean it's interesting because I think football players have to work themselves selves up to a point where fighting I mean every play is somewhat a fight so I'm somewhat sometimes shocked when NBA players. Get to this level. But not when it's Jimmy Butler because Jimmy Butler lives in like a linebacker psyche regularly. That's who he is. I'm comfortable with it. It's fine nobody got hurt. Nobody got fined or punched. Maybe I learned it today. Warren Warren can hoop. Yeah and I learned that Jimmy Butler. It's tough because he told us. Let's turn now to Steph Curry. Because after Janas end visiting buffs beat the warriors last night various online body language doctors and freelance lip readers. Alleged that Steph was up. WHO's older uprooting tricks? Jaanus by the way is actually up for an extension with Milwaukee this off season ahead of unrestricted free agency next year. So Dominique. What did that post-game Vignette tell you about? What's happening That's not stupid. It doesn't surprise me. I guess the only thing surprises me is he didn't do the Lebron. Cover your mouth thing but I mean obviously I assume that these text messages going on that's how the NBA works. No one should be surprised by this at this point point but this is an attractive option. I were you surprised by this at all. I was not surprised. But what you mentioned about Steph not even trying to hide this. That's what's so delicious to me. Because Steph Man Steph is Mr Steele girl in the NBA. This is his view. After the game at the Locker Jaanus had an autograph Graf Steph Curry Jersey with reportedly reportedly a very long autograph in zero of the number thirty. And then by the way. What else happened this on Greek heritage night I like the warriors are complicit in this and if I'm a bucks fan if I'm the Milwaukee Bucks in any sense I am so angry? Why are you angry to do your job like he won't leave? If you do all things I feel like the relationship. -NOLOGY BROUGHT UP WITH MR theory. Your girl like I'm not concerned about someone's stealing my wife because I do what I'm supposed to do. So Milwaukee do your thing take care of. You're supposed to take care of and he won't go anywhere. But here is the fear right. You have Milwaukee all of these natural advantages you have the eastern conference okay. You have a path to the finals that doesn't involve. Lebron doesn't involve Hawaiian. That's great if you are trying to sell someone on championship contention the Income Steph Curry. Who's done this with Andrea dollar and most notably Kevin Durant and if you're a medium ish smallest market yeah this sets off all of my insecurities already know but the Kevin Durant example? I think is possibly a bad one because Kevin Durant didn't leave there with people thinking more highly of him than they did he left. They're unhappy and kind of feeling like he jumped on something else. I think if any if there's anything to learn from that example is like just winning is not enough to get the things that I think these big time. NBA players want. Oh Yeah it's my turn. Let's move to John. Beeline the cavs coach himself in hot water today after he suggested his players in a film session yesterday that they or no longer plan quotes like a bunch of thugs. Beeline has reportedly been calling players individually to clarify his words in meaning telling woes last night. Quote out I meant to say slow as in slow moving. We weren't playing hard before and now we're playing harder admitted as a complement. Pablo are you buying felines explanation. I love any scandal that involves someone going to like rhyming dictionary it got to figure out a PR solution to this. My real question actually hearing you say that back clarified as in slow moving because he was like wait. A minute. sludges houses and bullets. Oh no wait a minute. That might actually be even more problematic. What were the other ones that he dropped off rugs bugs? I think this suggested me more than anything. And I'm not going to jump to any conclusions about be lines who he is on the inside and how he actually feels because there's obvious racial connotations to use the word and the NBA. But I'm not going to jump to that because I don't don't know him that well but it does suggest me. They don't like him that much. They don't respect him or they at least don't appreciate him or one him around because all of us and I can speak to specifically as the locker room but I think all of us have been around people who slipped and said the wrong thing if you trust them if you like them if you respect them you find a way to tell them and you don't like it doesn't become. I'm a scary thing like you. Give him a pass on that. That's what's crazy about this. He says it in the meeting. The meeting ends. No one says anything they walk out and we hear about this because what was is reporting wording that I think at least eight players ended up being contacted by beeline after Kobe. Alban the GM got involved in so this speaks to a sort of like best case. SCENARIO FREUDIAN SLIP. Is that where your brain goes that this was like unconscious closet door opening up leading a bunch of problematic stuff Tom. I think I've heard people say that. It's more likely that he said slow because it makes sense. I don't buy that necessary. I think thugs is a general pejorative that some people use to just mean bad and I could imagine resonated says that in. Maybe he doesn't mean anything but it doesn't matter what I do see now though is I don't know if we can say this rise to the level of crisis but I think this is an opportunity for Bela must be feeling like a crisis crisis and I'm sure I know that there was some discussion that he may not make it through the season because of this so we can go in the crisis and I think with all crisis comes an opportunity opportunity and if he was before this they didn't like them they didn't respect them apart maybe because they didn't know am I think this is an opportunity for him to show some vulnerability and maybe build on this. I think it's a long a shot but I think at this point that's all you can do. And he took the right steps as far as reaching out the players and then like owning up to it. The only thing that I don't necessarily appreciate is I'm not buying the slugs like just be honest like I didn't mean no disrespect but this is what I said. I mean what be line is doing. It seems to be a last ditch effort to open himself up and connect with guys that clearly we did not trust him and obviously like the thugs and slugs thing he is Mr slugs now this for slugged has this shows resident in animal expert. I would say that. He was also being disrespectful to slugs. How's that an upgrade? That's appreciate the majesty of the wonderful slug. What's I've got a video for you? Let's swatches monique. I know you do look at that. Look at those leopards ellos entangled so about this before the bang. You're you're saying yes one today and you're giving US slug video. I I love this life. But it's beautiful look intertwined making life. You can't show Joe Sakic Baalu bioluminescence this magical. I love it. We'll that's bioluminescence. No matter what it is. It's beautiful I don't have to blur that. Coming from above Hiking River deck at Tier Seventy only get one opportunity guys right right now. Is that opportunity. I've got a question for you. You were in the College Football playoff title Game Dominic Clemson and Lsu. Face off on Monday night in the superdome. You went on Joe Borough over Trevor Lawrence. Well I'd be in if you could give me Joe Lawrence but UK. Okay you gotta go with one another. I think Trevor Lawrence's better than Joe Borough. I think there's a chance that Joe Borough could win this game because Lsu is outstanding and they've been incredible and it'd be a fun feel-good good stories however there's one question that he hasn't been able to answer. Why take you so long to get good like that? Confuses me and I am more reliant. If we're talking draft after somebody to leave your team I would much rather rely on Trevor Lawrence than jober in the words of Joey Lawrence. Whoa Oh thank thank you thank you? All kids turned it off. So all bluff everybody who's into football analysis comeback. It's blossom by the way six so funny I love six my mb Alec Well. They'll look sample sizes the answer right Trevor Lawrence done for longer. It's as simple as dad. Give me that guy over Joe. We wasted a lot of time next. Michael Leeches leaving Washington state to become the new head coach at Mississippi. The state according to Yahoo Sports you in on this being a good marriage. It is a marriage that I want to monitor Mike Lees wildly entertaining until. Oh you're like oh I love alien conspiracy theories I love the weird guy and then he starts saying stuff like off of the dark web and your leg. ooh This is something that and I'm glad I'm not in but I am glad to watch from a fall. I'm interested in how this plays in Mississippi State because I think his act up in or not even act who. He is in in the Pacific northwest and football's felt a little differently when he's down at Texas Tech. I think they had the success. And that's different if he goes down to Mississippi state I think on a schematic standpoint. This might help. This gives them away to recruit against those other. SEC schools gives them away compete meekness. But if he doesn't win his little quirky stories. They're not GONNA fly well down there in Mississippi next topic Titans Derrick Henry and the titans play in Baltimore this weekend against the Mark Jackson and the Ravens so you went on Henry or Jackson Jackson having the big game on Saturday I mean I think the easy answer is Jacksonian ability to throw the ball and run the ball and he's also going to be MVP. But I'm not so sure that Henry doesn't have a a game because we always hear about how bill bellyache take away the best thing you do. He do the opposite against their case. Load the box. They said. You can't beat us no matter how much you handed. The Henry and I suspect that the Ravens might take that same tact because you'd be more concerned about giving big plays the play action attack then you are about Derrick Henry kind of bludgeoning down into modern. NFL have you ever heard of those people who like to wrap themselves in drugs and have people step on them as a fetish. No okay thing. And Derrick. Henry seems like the Guy You're hired a step all over you and you end up enjoying it because in the end it's not going to be the thing that you what an analogy. Thank you for Google. I will not not on working computer up next patch from home. But she's quarterback is the little under four thousand yards a little over four thousand yards and twenty six touchdowns this this year compared to five thousand plus yards and fifty touchdowns last year. But he says he's one hundred percent and improved quarterback now. So you hit on the homes contention that. He's a better quarterback now than last year. I don't think Padma homes was ever going to say anything different so I am in on this on the level of course. He thinks he's better. I'm sure he is better but you. I just can't convince me. Dominique Fifty Thousand Twenty Six. He's not worse. Well I mean. He had his year in part because he was injured for much. You can be better and just this big hampered by other issues. I think that you don't get worse in your second year. Necessarily when you're passing homes and you've added more weapons like I feel more confident and Patrick mahomes than I ever did. Yeah because last year I was like maybe they're going to bring some defense that he's not ready for he's seen at all. Everyone's tried everything against it and I think he's in a position where he no longer needs to prove himself. I agree agreed that he's probably better even if the number they'll support it now. The seahawks Russell Wilson and company. You're headed to Landau this weekend in the divisional round. So you went on Wilson Wilson Aaron Rodgers this week. Give me a Rod. I think Russell Wilson has had a much better season and probably in a draft situation. I'd take Russell Wilson over Aaron Rodgers given his seemingly declined so far in the last several years however they're not playing it's not a draft. They're not playing in a vacuum. Aaron Rodgers gets to go up against the Seattle defense while being at home home with a lot of playmakers and I think Russell Wilson while he has some good receivers often some lines not great down deep. They're running team. They are way deeply depth charge running back concern and that packers defense is so real. I don't know that he's going to be able to get away from the Darian Smith in the same way that he was able to maneuver last week. I am worried that I'm going to be locked into a cable. Fan knows montage because I'm agreeing agreeing with all of your condescension towards Seattle Man. They just play so many close games and winning close James from the footballs introspective. It's like wow. You guys are tougher that everybody else you figure out ways to win but also means you're due for come up and I think Aaron Rodgers is GonNa give them all right up next the saints forty one year old. Food through breeze is currently not under contract for next season and now one. NFL exact told our Gary Valor. that it wouldn't come as a total shock. To See. Sean Sean Payton to move forward with Tastes Hill as the starting quarterback you on the same going all in on hayling twenty twenty. I am out on this. Jeremy Fowler Man. He is not Ashok by this Jeremy Fowler had seen some things because this is wild to me like is this just negotiation ahead because drew brees. He led the League accuracy in this past year for like two hundred three years so my argument is not because drew brees is so good because I could get behind the argument. Where maybe you lean more to teddy bridgewater? But the argument made that the thing. That's outlandish to me. This tastes them hills thing. I remember arguing with Adam Schefter and get up a while ago when drew brees got hurt. Then they were like they might go take not teddy bridgewater no they. I don't believe in tasting the hill any any more than we do. Because you know what you don't do when you have tasting organic quarterback author you don't go get the highest paid backup and Teddy Bridgewater. You also send them running down on on kickoffs. No put them on team. And you don't make a leap lock when the last time you seen starting quarterback do leave blocking. I'm sorry. It just frustrates me. And now Adam Tony Dungy said on the rich Eisen show that the Costa might be the best offer Brady next year so you in with him on that. No I mean I think that the the concern concerned for Tom Brady is that he didn't have enough weapons. I'm not sure that that situation is solved. Necessarily when you go to the colts I think t y Hilton who's been in. Perpetually injured isn't upgrade receiver but I'm not sure that many other positions are better. I think the old line is better than the defense is not better. But they're growing. I think and also think that Chris Ballard at this young team is building for the future. I'm not sure that he's really ready to go. All in on Tom Brady at this moment I agree with all the football analysis. You just gave me but I also have to bring up like Tom Brady. We always talk about him but we tend to the fact that he has a family does his wife and this is a human thing. This White WanNa live football people. That was awesome place from the combine. But not for resilient hundred millionaires supermodel. It's not a fun place. Also they slave on flaky and finally cam. Newton's new coach Matt Rule had his introductory press conference yesterday and rule had this to say about him quote bolt. If I have a chance to coach him I know that on one of the best guys info you in on camping. The Panthers Starting quarterback in twenty twenty. He has to be in on this. The alternatives are not good Cam Newton. I have no idea how healthy he is. The only thing that gives me pause in this discussion is the to quote. If I have a chance to coach him like I assume you will. I mean CAM is cheap aucoin into next season so I think they probably will stay with them if they get a great offer to trade him they mike trade him because it's interesting to know that rule got a crazy long contract for first time head coach so rather than try to win some now and debilitate your a team going forward. It might be smart if you get the opportunity. Not because you don't think anything less cameras everything left. It might be smart. Move on for them so to move on from him. So you can build up your team team to make a big Ron and year three or four kind of the same Johnson or your forty s Davis episodes coming up is Lebron scared to guard Kawhi Leonard Concussion to it do it. Pablo go for squad. Scrimmage all all right. Here's a quote someone tell of Ron. Stop being scared to guard me. Leonard said according to what a source told Stephen Pablo. This sound like an accurate assessment assessment. I don't know I am inclined to say no just because hearing Stephen a quote Hawaii is like hearing one person well his exact opposite and so the exclamation point alone. I'm like I don't know if I can buy this just on that level I mean just because we don't see why do this in front of camera doesn't mean he doesn't feel Neil talk this way amongst his friends locker. My I see that as a football player all the time. quarterbacks are very different than you guys think bail so I say that to say I think it's something that absolutely could say he. He wants to comfort to throw and he's trying to come to the throne. I think it's unfair. Because in his twenties and Lebron is aging unfair matchup. But I think it's probably something that he feels and believes. I also think that it's fair for both of these guys to say it about each other because they may not be guarding. Lebron either like most heartless is the guy that the clippers tend to deploy employ against Lebron James and all I really want those guys to play like one on one forever against each other. Picking got wins one on one right. Now Give Me Leonard. I say that as an old person person who's Lebron's age and therefore still actually younger than you old man bodies won't play one on one facts literally broke my rift six. That's the number of players who rejected in baseball brawl in Venezuela watch it went down nonfinancial the middle one hundred and also. We're hoping intense with a real dislike bedroom followed by that that what is like. Are you shocked by this. In any way he would SPEC shop down thirteen to one. But that's not why I'm not. I'm not sacked because looking at footage what it looks like a flip phone footage. Nothing makes it on this show with sensory footage lessons Greg Feith. So I was expecting I was expecting the bad swing expecting good wrong. The point you make is absolutely correct. The worst technology is better the violence and so thank you Venezuela for not yet getting the iphone eleven Highly questionable is up. Next Oh wow.

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