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"We want the best of both worlds. We want a hybrid a smarter hybrid cloud approach. Ibm helps banks personalized experiences with watson. Well helping keep data secure. The world is going hybrid with ibm visit. Ibkr dot com slash hybrid cloud cried passion and patron three of college. Football leaves here. Paul finebaum show our four podcast. We welcome you to the final hour on this friday afternoon or early friday night dawn staley. It would be joining us shortly. She is the of course the national championship women's coach at the university of south carolina. Mike is up next in kentucky. Mike mom ball. Yes you are. Hey hey hey. Good afternoon ball well. Another year has come and gone and alabama reigns supreme. You know balls. There's some teams out there that recruited in the league level but alabama's different from year to year. The names and numbers may change but the product remains the same brother. And there ain't no cure for half. The coaches will be gone next year. And it won't make a better difference nick. Probably he's got plans backing up. Plans back then plans Well not that hard to argue with any of that. john is up next in huntsville alabama. Hey john how you doing john. We're doing great. thanks pound. let me gay. can you hear me now. You sound greg okay Before i get to what i was gonna talk about. Everybody talks about coats. Saving and Lou what happened. What's happening with coach saving. What's happening with alabama football. That train left the station. Back in the sixties with coach bryant. And if you listen to coach savin in his speech. He'll luda that he. He alluded gave credit to the bryant family for everything that they've done to support him. So this co satan built on it. And there were times that alabama was in the wilderness with With well we all know what what alabama want to But you know so breaking alabama up. And i think it's more were shown a sign of mediocrity with this this guy out of California talking about mia fairweather fan in california. That doesn't make sense to me and it's it sounds like to me. This is everybody gets a trophy generation mediocrity so It doesn't make sense to me. That's not competitive football but anyway call about is a saw something on the internet about possibly kevin someone to alabama is running back coach. Have you heard anything up. Yes i heard something. The other day that he had talked to coach saving. I'm not exactly sure whether it was an analyst position or on the field. But i do believe that has happened and it's interesting. Hey appreciate the call. Lisa is up next. Hey lisa you're in tennessee and we appreciate your call. I pop all. This is lisa and i'm a longtime listener and a first time. Caller wonderful great to have you on had a solution for the problem about college The college football ratings going down and out west and in california. I thought it'd be a great idea for the university of alabama and moved to los angeles. Thank you that's funny. How about can't who was in georgia. you're on the air appreciates call. Maybe not it's friday night. what can i do. Mike is up next to. Hey mike good afternoon to you afternoon. Paul thinking of listening to this gentleman from the usa today talking about the savings scenario in college. Football going down. Tell you a little story quickly here. My son when he was in high school play basketball on a team with a young man transferred from california southern california to louisville kentucky and I was sitting in the stands for this data. The game one day and i said why in the world did you move from southern cal. To louisville. i grew up in kentucky. I grew up in little and he said well. I'll tell you why the schools are terrible. The drugs are rampant and accepted taxes. Were out of this world. Immigration is out of control. Real estate prices are on both on insanely half. I didn't want to raise my family there anymore. So maybe that's the reason why a lot of these kids are coming east the southeast. They want want to live somewhere else. They want their kids to have a better life. And i think maybe that's part of the situation to plus they wanna go someplace where there's a great coach and coach they've is the breath and the southeastern conference's the best so that's my little lip on why i think people leave that part of the country and football it and his good out there. I think this going on and the interesting fact is this was twenty years ago. Twenty years when this story was told so it's worse now than it was back. Then mike i agree with you. I spent a reasonable amount of time until recently in l. a. And you better. You better win the national championship to get noticed out there because you have so many other competing interests got a couple of nfl teams you now have to a nba. Teams in the lakers are just they own the town. The dodgers on the same level so unless southern cal is in the top three or four in the country. They're not going to get noticed by anyone out there. And that's really the issue too. And i realize we live in a more global world where young people aren't putting on the local tv stations or reading the newspapers like they did thirty or forty years ago but they still want to know. They want to be recognized where they live. And they're not being and that's why the high school quarterbacks are bailing out of there. That's why the high the high profile players are going to ohio state and clemson and alabama. Because there's nothing happening out there. That's very true. I agree with that completely. I think that's part of the whole part of the whole thing so You know until a kill a good that out. And i don't see it happening now i will tell you a this year was different of course but in the previous two falls. I spent three nights a week in new york during the football season. Because of the espn shows and you. I never been outside the south during football season. And i'm walking around lower manhattan midtown. Nobody's stopping me to talk about college. Football like they would in atlanta or birmingham. Or gainesville or nashville. And when someone did notice me or recognize me from one of the shows i've been on you know they were asking me about the giants about the jets in maybe a perfunctory. Hey alabama going to win it all this year but they had no idea what was happening because they just don't care same way in chicago same way. And and that's okay. But that's not going to hurt college. Football doesn't need that People watch something compelling regardless. And i just think we we're getting hung up on a lot of things. But for brent and i know brent to cry river for southern california i really don't care yeah i i agree one other thing and i'll shut up monday night. After the playoff is a terrible time to have the national championship so move the game to another a better time of the week. He i know. I i'm a they either figure. You can't have it on saturday and a lot of people say well. What about saturday we'll the. Nfl has moved into that weekend. You could have it friday. Which i don't think is particularly good night for for anything sports wise. It's a week television night or you. Just move it up. You end the season on january first and started earlier. I i've always wondered College football i mean. I'm ready for college. Football on august twentieth. We we did. A game was two years ago. When when florida played miami i think it was on august. Twenty third and yeah it's hot. It's but the reason. I believe you should start the season. Earlier's you're not competing with the nfl. You have two or three weeks by yourself because the nfl is a monster and it. It sucks the life out of everything else that exists. I agree completely. Thank you for talking to you and thank you and when you this show this show we talk about what what what we were interesting to us but you know. Being in new york does too falls in being on the espn shows. I got a good of it. I in a certain point in the season college football does not really get notice it only on an individual week a big game. We'll get a get attention book but until you get close to the playoffs. The espn as much of an investment as it has in college. Football is primarily a saturday event. It's a saturday sport. Yeah all morning long. But on a monday after a college football weekend on. Espn it's about the nfl. We'll take a break. We'll take a break more of your phone calls at eight five five two four two seven two eight five. We're coming right back. You're listening to the paul finebaum show. Podcast do own or rent your home. Sure you do. And i bet it can be hard work you know. It's easy bundling policies with geico. Geico makes it easy to bundle your homeowner's or renter's insurance along with your auto policy. It's a good thing too because you already have so much to do around your home. Go to geico dot com. Get a quote and see how much you could save. Its gyco easy visit. Geico dot com. Today that's geico dot com. Why at once. That's was white once last thing you want running with elite. Qb's resolute kenneth on td's across nova step behind no need to the cloud with the dirty thirties. Finger pushes bruce lee showing no mercy got the crew on deck g. Dupree goes deeper. That's a fact. Espn download now. Welcome back john is up next in atlanta. Hey john good evening to you. Hey paul how you doing. I am doing wonderful. Thanks sean ask great. Got a little story for you okay. I'm from birmingham. Born and raised in birmingham moved atlanta. back back when Young teenage boy went to work with solar mod company where it will forward for years and years retired from ford but i i was coming down. You got ta. Yes we do john. You sound great okay. But in years ago we was my wife. And i was coming home. I was coming home for a ballgame. Maybe at Legion field. And i got around anniston and i got to channel surfing and i picked you and i got to my brother-in-law's and i said who in the world is that guy on the radio. And he said that guy can stir up more trouble you ever seen in your life and he said as paul fan bon well from that day forward. We have been a fan of yours. Love the show and It's it's interesting. It's educational and i just wanted to call and let you know We appreciate it and appreciate the effort and the time you put into it and the people you have on there is great. But i won't tell you a little story and i'll let you go about bear bryant and a and about saving Bear bryant Years ago when we were kids when tabatabai show come on on sunday evening We with us kids. I'm seventy five years old so it's been a long time ago. Kids would be outside and we didn't have all these telephones and hand games We had football baseball. Bats and balls in. My mother comes doran. She said okay Coast bias coming on. Y'all get in here so we would With oh everything down. And he the tv and We just grew and grew up being alabama fans bear by fans but Bryant is not cost saving co savings. Not bad brian and they are in both of them. Got their place. And i believe them to got to your place in alabama fans heart. And i'll be they'll they'll they'll be there for a long time and It was just i remember those games Legion field years ago. That face be packed out standing room. Only there'd be people that didn't even have a tick john. thank you. thank you for the kind words. I really appreciate that. My job was a young reporter covered. Alabama for coach bryan last two years. I had to watch sunday. Show start to finish in. You know maybe he said something newsworthy. Which by the way he never did. But it was if any if any of you want to get chuckled youtube. The old bear bryant show that that will be a trip belvedere. In austin texas is up next. Hello paul devender. Good afternoon to you. Tell you this all sincerity. You are so fantastic. You know what you are beloved by people but you know it. The reason is that. I just. I love you In the way you address people. You're so cool here. So when in years so fantastic That's sad about Certification comes in tech. Thank you very much for sharing that. I think it's a good move for them. I think there's no guarantee and you follow that program pretty closely. If tom herman flop there anyone can because i thought he was about as close to a sure thing i've ever seen so the key is the staff i think he's done a very good job of building it. He's a wonderful evaluator and a teacher he just needs to accomplish one thing in particular and that does not allow people to interfere with his his stewardship or the program. What i mean by that is are all the people that things they own. The program do not the university of texas for all the people not. It's not for about twenty-five fat cat. All tycoons who think it's there's a- hoop. Well i'm not sure about how You know i'm part of the deal on the people you talked about but We have the best interest a heart really. We do Tom herman here. The personality is Your furniture yeah. No i agree with you and sarka. Sark's is a little more charming and the thing. I think that stark has an advantage. He his his big advantage. Right now is that he's been there before he's been the head coach at washington. He's been the head coach at southern cal. Those are two big programs and in big media markets. Seattle and l. a. and. I think this will not overwhelm him as it did. Tom herman. Herman was had a job before that. But he really was not prepared for what he got into. Maryland is up. Next hella marilyn. How paul good to tell it to you again. Thank you well. What i was going to talk about was actually forgot. The guy's name but you had him on just a little while ago. From usa today brent. And he's you know talking about trying to lay level. The playing field for nick sabin Or with nick sabin but You know i thinking you know And you just talk about tom. Herman texas i think all these colleges are expecting way too much and like they only give what charlie strong to name a few todd. Tom herman three or four years. Then they Then they get rid of them. Get somebody else in. Have a huge buy back. And it's not just takes us but other other colleges as well and then What they don't wait is to get a winning record. And that's what's the college players. Won't they wanna go to somewhere where they can have shot at the. Nfl and a winning coach is when they go to alabama but these other colleges adult really they don't give a coach's a chance to get a winning record Anyway that's one of my arguments. The second one is that Necas pumping out head coaches for the past decade. So he's actually you know. Put giving back to the system You know of course are has one just one example And then he mentioned something about You know the bcs. Oklahoma and michigan few more. And i'm thinking well oklahoma. They've had their shot and michigan. Obviously don't want to have a shot because they keep the same coach. I mean he. I think had many hotels have what he's been there. I think seven years back your other point though. I want to make sure people understand. I agree long jetty. It is great but fans see what these coaches are making. They're all making four five six seven eight million dollars and none of us can relate to that so when coach makes six billion dollars a year and he doesn't win and with and with the world like it is social media everyone having an opinion in athletic directors hearing it and shows like this probably don't help but they're part of the floor tapestry of college football the pressure gets ratcheted up. And you start to think. If i stay with this coach where am i going to be in a year. Am i going to be any better or worse. So you get you get you get you get a quick itchy trigger finger and also in texas case texas. Texas is more unusual than most because they did not go out and get a coach significantly more attractive than the one they had. They gotta coach. That was on the rise who after falling versus a coach that they had already had. That has pretty much run his course and the second thing. I don't mean to be so long winded. They went after urban meyer and they didn't get him and once they did that. You can't keep the coach had just think about it. If if you're in a business try to they try to hire your replacement and they get this. By the way. You're you're good for now maryland. Thank you very much for the call. Nick is up next. Hey nick go right ahead nick. You're on the air go right ahead first time caller longtime listener. Thank you Cold about the bread usa. Yeah at the mini. I'll look at the college. Football is more revenue than and savings era than ever before. Now maybe that's just a adapting to college football. Let's look at the pro football. Everything north is dominating win. The south really doesn't have a pro football team size in new orleans and tapa. Tom brady odd national. I was curious that the playoffs they would have put somebody like cincinnati and there to their views are even better even though they lost the joys back close three points no. I don't think this year there was going to be a tremendous audience. Anyway i think the season i some of it comes from exhaustion. The college football. This has been we talk about the players. I think the fans are fairly exhausted as well and it just there was. Let's say friday was january first so you go from january first where everyone's excited. We're watching the playoffs. We're watching the peach bowl. We're watching other games. And then you have to go through two weekends before you get to the championship game. And i think the sports just runs out of gas outside of in ohio or alabama and a few other places. Most people have already moved on to season two seasons over for them. I just thought of it. Maybe as brian he got tired of alabama and. I don't even think the game been great. It would've made a significant difference would not have it would not have reached where we're it was a year ago but i i'm more hung up on the buildup but i'll say this for the final time but if you're a sports fan and you know the college football championship is on monday night and on saturday you watch from one o'clock until midnight three. Nfl games you do the same thing. The next day remember there was an additional. Nfl game this year because of trying to make up for revenue. And by the time you wake up monday morning. You're you're already looking forward to the next round you. You've got to be reminded that there is a college football game tonight and that doesn't work. It's all like super bowl where you hear about it for a week. College football championship game. Outside of alabama and ohio. Nobody knew it was on until that day. We're up against a break. We appreciate your being here thirty minutes remaining and we are coming right back. You're listening to the paul finebaum. Show podcast back. Mike is up next. Hey mike welcome to the show. And you're on the air. Pay paul happy new year. I am doing great happy new year. Happy that you just want to ask. I need to stock tip. But before i do get information so so you came there. The last two years that there was there right. Correct just in time to the bama fan saying too old. He's gotta go. he's killing the that or am i. Just haven't yeah. You know there was some of that. It happened Earlier though in. I wasn't around but in one thousand nine hundred sixty nine. People were wondering if coach. Brian was too old now to toward the end of his career. His last year was eighty two. He won the title in seventy eight seventy nine and had a chance to to Three pete and eighty eighty one. He broke amos alonzo. Stagg's record so that was the main focus and really in the eighty two season. I know why. I remember this like it was yesterday They were the number two team in the country when they went to knoxville. And we're upset there for the first time in a decade. And that really on began the unraveling of his final season so he was in pretty good stead until the very end and then so the bama fans pushed him out. Gotta go everything. He's done and ended up. He died elite really immediately. After the tired so thanks. Obama died five weeks later. Yeah so excited. Because saving almost with texas so i got to see what. It'd be like how mike price again dishonesty thank you. You're you're dynasty. Is your say that. I cannot wait till he goes. I can't wait 'til he retires. Because it's going to be so wonderful here and all of these geniuses screaming cry and whine. Because who are you going to go get gus malzahn daboh so i. I just can't wait half the people on the on the radio. I don't even know who bear. Bryant was than a name and it's just kills me list so really. Here's my fucked up. I needed so with alabama football over what he denied medication. Should i buy stock in. Yeah let me let me give it to you off. The air mike. I don't i don't want to create a rush on the tip. I'm going to give you can't is up next. Can in texas go right ahead. Hello in there in the air me. I can yes. I'm calling bs on that last interview. You have okay and possibly. The article did Does he not realize that. The fabric of texas and the southeast is football all the way down to high school. I mean alan just built stadium a few years ago. That has skyboxes in it now. Why wouldn't a kid from california who don't care about football or colorado. Wanna go to somewhere where they can play in front of a hundred two thousand. I'm a graduate from am hundred and two thousand people who are passionate. La doesn't care about football. They don't care about high school football. I don't know what's the big power neil. I made her d. but they go all over the country those graduates and he said he covered texas tech. Did he ever go down to game again. With the odessa. Permian and midland lee. One of the great robberies of texas high school football. The communities closed down for high school football. So if i'm great high school football player from colorado or california or hawaii or whatever that's a great selling point and plus the fact. You're going to play if you go to alabama probably the greatest football college football coach ever i he. I don't think he focused on the fabric of football in the south and the southeast completely agree And it was a pretty weak approach. Georgia's up next in tennessee. Hello george george there. Yeah yeah i'm right. Hair wonderful Can you hear me. Yes i can. Okay good. I'm i'm a big fan of your show and you know we're just frustrated here in tennessee because I go back to the year from. They play saint gobain and You know they're always good. I always had a good coat and things just been going sideways. And you don't lose some people to nascar and debbie debbie and they can't recruit and look like some shenanigans going on up there with the head coach and athletic director. Now just wondering what you thought about. What's going on. And how they can get to the level where they were on time with george. My original thought was tennessee. Had to be patient and and get behind someone. So that's what they did. They got behind. Jeremy pruitt and now it looks like they're trying to get behind running him out of town so i think we need to see where this goes doesn't look like it's going very well and And the real concern. Even jeremy pruitt survives this investigation. He's going to be damaged goods right. Well it looks like they're reports force him out of there. Yeah and i think it's a catch twenty two if he's already i mean this program has been in limbo now for three weeks he is. I can't imagine trying to do anything when when the university shut you down so on one hand. They're better off getting rid of him on the other hand it. It goes against everything that we just got through laying out as a template for success. The school needs to speak out soon. They really they need. They need to come up with a plan and they need someone. Someone needs to let phil fulmer do his job. He is the athletic director. We'll take a break. Mortar com right after this listening to paul. Finebaum show podcast. Well we made it to the end of the week. Appreciate you being a part of the show. We will see you on monday. Thank you for listening to the paul finebaum. Show podcast the paul finebaum. Show weekdays on the sec network beginning at three eastern.