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Taiwan to end quarantine for arrivals starting Oct. 13
"Taiwan will end mandatory COVID-19 quarantines For people arriving from overseas beginning on October 13 The central epidemic command center in Taiwan has announced the previous week thong requirement will be replaced by a 7 day self monitoring period a rapid antigen test will still be required upon arrival but those showing no symptoms will be allowed to take public transportation Taiwan has been one of the few places in the world that's held onto a quarantine for arrivals throughout the course of the pandemic in recent months It's relaxed its measures and currently requires travelers to isolate in a hotel for three days followed by four days at a private residence I'm Charles De Ledesma
Queen Elizabeth II mourned by Britain and world at funeral
"On a tree lined avenue leading up to Buckingham Palace mourners from all over Britain and the worlds came together in their thousands to pay their respects to the late monarch As a radio broadcast of the funeral plays out live to well wishers along the boulevard many listen in respectful silence I spoke earlier to royal fans Ian namari Talbot who came from Ontario in Canada to be part of this historic event We arrived yesterday morning and we're flying out on Monday So very four days very quick Especially for the Queen Especially for the Queen American Rebecca Morris made a special pilgrimage from Maryland to London to honor her late mother's memory I wanted to see history And it was something that my mom and I wanted to do together My mom passed away last year So I wanted to come To honor the queen and honor her Karen Chammas London
How to watch the procession of the queen's coffin through London today
"Horses from the royal stables have been getting special training for the big procession Horses troops and military bands performed a full dress rehearsal before daybreak for the procession that will take Queen Elizabeth II's coffin from Buckingham Palace to parliament's Westminster square officials say the horse is taking part of undergone special training including how to handle mourners and flowers and flags being thrown towards the procession The procession features King Charles the third and other royals walking behind the queen's coffin to parliament the queen's coffin will lie in state for four days for people to pay their respects Charles De Ledesma
"History": Thousands come for last glimpse of queen
"Thousands of people are coming for a last glimpse of Britain's Queen Queen Elizabeth's casket will be taken by horse drawn gun carriage From Buckingham Palace to the houses of parliament to lie in state for four days before Monday's funeral at Westminster Abbey many are already queuing up to pay their last respects erecting tents and preparing for hours even days of waiting thousands have already come to the park adjacent to the palace to pay their respects with flowers and written notes for the queen One reads we have loved you as you have loved us
Dr. Pierre Kory Discusses a New Study of Ivermectin
"Now is doctor Pierre Corey, doctor welcome back to the program. Hey, Charlie, good to be back. Thanks. So doctor, it seems as if there's a study that came out recently that reinforces everything you've been saying for the last 18 months, tell us about it. Yeah, so I mean, this is really the second study from the same group. I was a co author. I didn't do the study, but I helped in the preparation writing. You know, it's a study that comes out of data from a city in Brazil, it's a giant, and it's the largest study on Ivermectin to date. And in this follow-up study, so the first one showed what we knew was would happen, which is it showed this massive reduction in infections in hospitalizations and death amongst it was at that time it was a 159,000 subjects in a program in that city where they offered all the city city members or the citizens of that city. An opportunity to participate in a prevention program by taking Ivermectin four days a month. And beyond what that study found, this was a follow-up study where they looked at the subjects and they split them up into those who took Ivermectin regularly. Those who didn't take all the doses that they were supposed to and those who didn't at all. And when you looked at the regular Ivermectin users, I mean, it was just absolutely eye popping. I mean, it was a 92% reduction in death and a 100% reduction in hospitalization. Nobody went to the hospital, and it was about 50% reduction in infections. And the thing is, though, Charlie, you know, we have had data showing the efficacy of Ivermectin now for almost two years. The data is overwhelming, the evidence based is now 91 controlled studies of which this is the second largest, and every single study always shows a benefit. Some of them may not statistically significant, but that's not what you use. You use the aggregate of all the data. I've never seen a more proven medicine in any disease model in my life. That's unbelievable. This one is just, you know, it's hard to argue data anymore. I'll tell you how, sorry, I'll tell you how they are doing, but it's not honest, and it's full of lies.
Holiday air travel tops pre-pandemic levels for the 1st time
"Holiday air travel has taught pre-pandemic levels for the first time I Norman hall for the first time since COVID-19 brought air travel to a standstill the number of people streaming through U.S. airport security checkpoints over holiday weekend exceeded pre-pandemic levels the summer travel season ended on a busy note as more than 8.7 million people passed through security in the last four days topping Labor Day weekend of 2019 That's according to the transportation security administration The busiest day was Friday when TSA screened 2.48 million travelers I Norman hall
Devin Nunes on 'Bitter Old Man' Merrick Garland
"You've had Merrick Garland actually say, you know, everything has to go through ledge of flares, nobody can talk to Congress. I mean, it seems like they're holding it together with the old country terms spitting bailing wire. I mean, because they went so far that even some who will be sympathetic quote company people are saying, wait, wait, wait, there's got to be some balance here. Yeah, Garland, I think, is just an avatar, old guy, old, bitter guy, luckily we were able to stop them from ever becoming appointed to the Supreme Court. Because the Democrats knew exactly what they had on this guy. They knew exactly what he was going to be. He was going to be swayed very, very easily. And that always makes me wonder as to what they have on some of these guys. There were the Democrats knew exactly what to do. They put up this guy and it was kind of a phony Republican and said, get them, let's get them approved. And luckily, we know he was stopped by the Republican Senate at the time. Now he's just a bitter old man who's not in charge. And I say that he's not in charge because it's clear just by this latest raid where had stories that say, oh my God, he was in turmoil for two months, not knowing what to do. Well, that's weird because we were told it's nuclear secrets, classified information. Like, what? This is wild that he that he toiled over this for months. Whatever part of that is true, but what we do know is true is that the rate occurred, everybody from at least the right to the center, whatever mainstream media is left that has any sort of moral compass, was saying, what is going on here? We need to hear from the attorney general. Well, he waited and waited a wait at what four days goes out and does a press conference, my guess is that he waited because he was waiting for the corrupt DoJ and FBI people to come with the goods. Of which they didn't get any goods. We know we know that now because we just saw in recent days, they sprinkled out some classified looking documents all over and took a picture on the carpet,
The Man Who Got Away From the White House
"Let me drill down on this because the Abraham accords matters so much to history. You're a constant in the president of the constant in this. Yousef doesn't change TV doesn't change NBC doesn't change. But what changes is Pompeo replaces Tillerson. I don't know Tillerson, so I won't talk about it. I know Mike very well. But ambassador O'Brien replaces ambassador Bolton. How does that matter? And I mean, you're pushing for the same thing for four years. You start with the embassy, you end up with the Abraham accords and even after the Abraham accords the F-35s, the Western Sahara, the Sudan issues, you just followed it through Phoebe is a constant. The only two things that change are at the 7th floor of state and at the west wing office that everybody sees in every shot O'Brien for Bolton. Why do those two matter and you're constancy matter? I think that that mattered in that when they both came in, it took Trump a while again. I always say that the first night he slept in Washington. He slept in The White House, right? So he wasn't a mayor. He wasn't a governor. He wasn't a senator. And so it took him a while to find the right people who understood what he was trying to accomplish and who were competent and enabling for him to do that. So I write about Mike coming in and replacing Tillerson and how I went to Mike and said, look, there's only one Secretary of State you're the Secretary of State. I'm working on this file. I'm making progress. Do you want me to go off the file? And Mike says, no, no, no, no, you're doing great with it. Just keep running. Anything you need I'll be available and actually write something about how with Tillerson, it was impossible to get him. You want to get him on the phone. It would take three, four days, and then a conversation would last 30 minutes, and you wouldn't really accomplish much because it would be mostly either less during you or complaining about stuff. With Mike, a conversation would take under three minutes. He was very to the point, very decisive. And I would say by definition, he could do ten times more diplomacy. And that's also why he was always so available and reachable and really a great Secretary of State. With
John Solomon: Biden Knew About Probe Into Trump Documents Long Ago
"We've been talking about all the issues So there's so many involved in this rogue operation against former president Trump in his home And so I want to ask you this you broke a story the other night that The White House the Biden White House facilitated this criminal probe and as I remember there are spokespersons said Biden knew nothing about this and nobody in The White House knew Yeah Yeah they did That's how they played it on August 8th when the raid occurred but it turns all the way back to April they had knowledge that the FBI was seeking to open a criminal probe They couldn't open it without getting the documents given to back from Trump to the archives unless the archives could send it to the FBI The president through his council's office approved the transmission of those documents President Trump's lawyers then raised executive privilege as you would expect any former president to do And the President Biden said you know what I have no interest in claiming executive beverage over this If the archive wants to wave it they may do so And that facilitated a very quick escalation of the criminal investigation from preliminary to true criminal investigation to grand jury I'll tell you how quick it was It may 8th is when the letter goes to president Trump's lawyers from the archives saying the president and White House wade privilege I would give him the Doc and C FBI Teflon Four days later there's already activity before the grand jury a couple of weeks after that president Trump is served with a grand jury subpoena in Mar-a-Lago that results in a cooperative visit by the FBI to his compound on June 3rd and then by August 8th they've escalated from a grand jury subpoena to a search warrant And Joe Biden facilitated that acceleration of the investigation his deputy council directly involved in these discussions and you have a triangle of the national security archives the DoJ FBI law enforcement state and The White House approving this
How Can Parents Reverse the Trends of Digital Hermits in Their Kids?
"Let me talk to all the other parents that are listening to this. This is a mom self described that says she's heartbroken that gave her daughter a phone far too young. Parents out there do not give your children phones. Period. It is not necessary. You might say, well, Charlie, I have to connect or communicate with them. Go buy a jitterbug. They can call and that's it. They do not need a smartphone. What she is describing, vomiting and shaking, if not having her phone is no different than heroin or cocaine addicts, where the brain literally goes into a withdrawal mode. It is so deplete of dopaminergic function that it can only survive with the continuation and the consumption of the drug. So what does one do? So here's what my recommendation would be. I would recommend planning a family trip depending on where you live, to somewhere wild. Boundary waters is a great place. The Rocky Mountains, no phones, but it has to be for three to four days. I know that's a long period of time. No one can check their phones for three to four days. The clinical, the clinical data shows it takes three to four days to begin the process of detoxification. Believe it or not in three to four days you can make an enormous amount of brain reset, especially if you're in nature, if you're away from the phone, you're away from otherwise stimulating objects. So I say this, you know, kids come up to me sometimes, say, Charlie, I'm so depressed. I'd say maybe you are. But you're probably burned out. They said, what do you mean? This device without you realizing it is destroying your body's ability to decipher reality from fiction and stimulant from normal. Remember, dopamine is a reward molecule in your brain.
Lollapalooza returns to Chicago
"Lollapalooza returns to Chicago with four days of music and marches are a letter with the latest Metallica is one of the headliners of Lollapalooza this year It's kind of a full circle moment since they got alternative fans in a tizzy when they headlined Lollapalooza in 1996 One of those in a tizzy was Lollapalooza founder Perry Farrell who wanted to keep the festival alternative I will apologize even here and now I was wrong They have evolved and they're good people and I consider them to be good friends of mine Yes but other performers this year include J-Hope of BTS Lil Baby Jasmine Sullivan Machine Gun Kelly and Green Day
White House plans COVID-19 vaccine summit as Biden recovers
"President Biden says he's in good shape four days after testing positive for COVID-19 I'm feeling great Speaking virtually to reporters the president says he slept well the last two nights and was out this morning when commander his German Shepherd woke him I felt this nozzle on my dog's nose against my chest about 5 minutes to 7 Hours after his doctor said the president's symptoms are nearly gone he did report some lingering issues A little bit of a sore throat and a little bit of a call But the president says he's getting better every day and hopes to be on the job in person this week I think I'm on my way to a full recovery Sagar Meghani Washington
Doctor: Biden's COVID symptoms 'almost completely resolved'
"His doctor says President Biden's COVID symptoms are almost completely resolved Kevin O'Connor says the president notes only residual nasal congestion and minimal hoarseness in a letter to press secretary karine Jean Pierre O'Connor writes the president's pulse blood pressure and temperature remain absolutely normal and his lungs are clear with no shortness of breath He says the president's finished his fourth full day on an anti viral and it will stay in isolation per CDC recommendations four days after testing positive
Dozens dead, injured in Haiti's capital in gang clashes
"Dozens of people have died in four days of gang battles in a violent neighborhood of Haiti's capital the latest eruption of bloodshed in a wave of increasing violence sweeping the country A port of prince official says the fighting erupted on Friday in a clash between members of two rival gangs though at least 50 people had died a more than another 50 wounded the aid group Doctors Without Borders says thousands of people are now trapped in the solar neighborhood without drinking water food and medical care is calling on other humanitarian groups for help and urging the gangs to spare civilians the group's head of mission in Haiti says along the only road into the area we encountered corpses that are decomposing or being burned I'm Charles De la
Jan. 6 panel probes Trump's 'siren call' to extremists
"The House committee investigating the capitol siege focuses this afternoon on what it calls the final phase of Donald Trump's plan to halt his election loss The panel 7th hearing will probe weather extremist groups like the Proud Boys and oath keepers coordinated with The White House allies for the attack with one panel member saying they answered Trump's siren call Steven ayers is among the expected witnesses He's pleaded guilty to charges related to the siege and admits posting four days earlier that Trump was quote calling on us to come back to Washington The oath keepers have denied there was any plan to storm the building The panel will also highlight testimony from Trump White House counsel pat cipollone in what is now the only hearing this week and expected prime time version Thursday is shelved for now Sagar Meghani Washington
What's Next for the UK After Johnson Resignation?
"No, mister secretary, you spent some time in the United Kingdom in the run up to the announcement by prime minister Johnson that he will be standing down. And the launch of the UK leadership election. Now, the prime minister of the United Kingdom matters a great deal to the United States. And you've known a lot of their foreign secretaries, your counterpart when you're at the CIA at M 6. You know, a lot of these people, what do you make of the needs of Great Britain in their next prime minister? Toughness resolve. Candor. Most of all candor to the people of the United Kingdom telling them that this is a tough honorary world out there that they are an important player. And now that they are no longer part of Europe, they need to step up and continue the kind of leadership that they had when president Reagan and Margaret Thatcher and Pope John Paul two worked so closely together. I was there. I was in London for a three or four days. Just before prime minister Johnson stepped down. And I saw a great generation of next conservative leaders from Tory party. Not every Tory is a conservative, but every conservative is a Tory and I think they will find a good leader who moves the country forward in a way that engages in the world economically and lets lending continue to be a massive, important, massively important financial center, but provides a level of understanding for other European nations about this is the way forward.
The Culture of the Democrat Party
"And this is we talked about the other day is how the Democrat party was founded by Martin Van Buren In the 1820s And that culture has remained largely Creating targets entities to personally attack but even more than that there's another culture trash but the cultural aspect and the Democrat party And it is loyalty I'm speaking in a general way there are exceptions but loyalty You don't have people resigning from Biden's presidency Or resigning from Obama's presidency A resigning from Clinton's presidency And so forth and so on In writing scores of books excoriating their former boss Kiss and tell books and yet there's plenty to kiss and tell about They're abuses of the IRS They're abuses of the FBI Generally their abuses of power There hasn't been a single negative book of any consequence written about Barack Obama He was the perfect man Nothing Nothing His staff isn't resigning and running about the fact that he's an incompetent or that he has mental issues or he only works four days a week and barely none of that Nothing
Sharks hire Mike Grier as NHL's first Black GM
"My Greer is the shark's new general manager the first black man to hold that position for a National Hockey League team Greer played more than 1000 NHL games over 14 seasons including three with the sharks He retired in 2011 and has since spent time as a scout in Chicago and assistant coach in New Jersey and hockey operations adviser for the New York rangers where he held many of the responsibilities of an assistant general manager He takes over a rebuilding San Jose team just two days before the NHL draft with his team holding the 11th pick in four days after the dismissal of the shark's head coach and three assistants I'm Ben Thomas
"four days" Discussed on Today, Explained
"I'm sure an idea like this would have some opposition. Are people afraid that this will make every American worker one 5th less productive for our capitalism? Sure. So that's a worry that is natural for people to have. And actually this was studied. There was a big study in Iceland where a whole swath of workers had their hours cut by a few hours each week. I think they did they did a 36 hour work week. And the study has found that by and large productivity either stayed the same or it actually went up. So people were getting more done. In fact. And then, of course, there were all these other benefits, right? People were happier. They were spending more time with their families. They had better social lives. In the study, there was like a dad being quoted saying my kids are so excited when it's my half day 'cause they know that we're gonna get to hang out. It's just like really sweet. That's nice. And actually, since the studies came out, Iceland decided to, in large part, make this permanent. So now 86% of the population is either already working a shorter work week or they have a contract that guarantees them that shorter work week in the future. So this dream is going to be a reality there. Why do they think that people become more productive when they work less? I think there's a couple things here. One is, I mean, and if you work in an office, I think this will resonate with you or if you used to work in an office before the pandemic. I think this will resonate, which is that some of our time at work is just wasted. We have a lot of meetings to go to some of those meetings could probably be an email. Some of those meetings go on too long. There's also research showing that after a certain amount of work we just lose our ability to do work, like not completely, but we get worse at working. So anyone who has just worked a super long week has felt this, you get burned out. You get tired. You're not as efficient you make more mistakes. So a shorter work week avoid some of those problems. Is this just another way for white collar workers to end up with another benefit though? And they'd have one more day off where potentially service industry workers in restaurants or movie theaters or big box stores would wind up with even more work to do, tending to all these people. I think that's a real worry. And one thing that was really interesting to me about the Iceland research is that it wasn't just office workers who were part of the research. It was also like I think law enforcement officers and folks who worked in child care or also elder care. So especially some of these care work jobs, it's not like you're spending that much time in meetings when you're caring for toddlers. I know because I have a toddler. Those are labor intensive jobs. And when you're on your on, but they still found ways, whether it was maybe the day care center hires more people. Maybe it adjusted hours slightly. They still found ways to make these shorter work weeks work. So I think really the key if we were going to do something like this would be making sure that exactly what you're talking about. It's not just a benefit for white collar workers. This is like a real shift across the economy. And that it's coupled with making sure that people who have really unpredictable schedules are not enough hours have enough, that they actually have enough work or enough benefits they can live on them. And for all the people who think this is just like a pie in the sky idea, it's worth remembering, right? That so was UBI until during the pandemic, the former president and the current one just decided to give people fair sums of money, right? Do you think because of that, we're a little bit closer to ideas like this than we were, say, before the pandemic? Yeah, I mean, we've seen so many things policy wise that I thought we'd never see, you know, whether that's the child tax credit, whether it's the stimulus, whether it's some of the stuff in the American rescue plan. I think there's been this acknowledgment of people's basic needs in a way that there really wasn't before. And I've just started to see a kind of cultural change. Maybe this is too optimistic, but it used to be that whenever you talked about work and people work too much. People would kind of roll their eyes and especially in media or if you talk to white collar professionals, everyone would be like, of course we work too much, but no we're never going to do anything about it. That'd be ridiculous. And I just feel like it's different now. I feel like frankly, America's traumatized from the pandemic, even those who are kind of relatively insulated. I think there's this serious sense of meaning to change. There's a serious sense that work is broken. And for the first time when you say people work too much, everyone kind of perks up on listens. And I'm hoping that that means maybe there's appetite for changing this and not just going back to the way it was before. And a north enjoy your weekend. Thanks so much, you too. Anna north. She's a full-time senior correspondent vox, who also somehow managed to write a very good book while working here. It's called outlawed. It's a western, you can find it wherever you find your books. Today's show was produced by will read. I don't believe he's written a book yet, but his future is bright. The rest of the team includes Victoria Chamberlain, haidi Milwaukee, miles Brian and halima Shah, a theme Shapiro's our engineer, Matthew Collett's our editor, Amanda Al Saudis our MVP Liz Kelly Nelson is vox's veep of audio. Jillian weinberger is the deputy music from breakmaster cylinder and Noam hasn't felt facts are checked by Laura bullard. Just reminder before we go, we're off for the next few days for the Christmas holiday. Take care. Once again, the weekend..
"four days" Discussed on Today, Explained
"In a minute, we humor a very un American idea. Maybe we should all be working. A little less. It should explain..
"four days" Discussed on Today, Explained
"Then we have the erosion of unions. So workers have less power to bargain for their conditions. And things just kind of get crappier and crappier for lack of a better word. Pensions become less common in favor of four-o-one-ks and retirement accounts that rely way more on the worker to be putting away money versus somebody putting away money for you. The rate of people who have health insurance through their job goes down, wage growth stagnates. There's lots of factors we can point to, but basically over time your 1950s job that's kind of providing all your needs. It just becomes less and less common. Fewer and fewer people have that kind of job. And even the people who do have jobs that are providing for all their needs, it feels like those people might be working more now than ever before. Right, so the other thing we've seen is that, you know, white collar work sort of professional work. Those work weeks and those work days have just gotten really long. And I think something that we've seen written about this elsewhere is just a general worsening of people's schedules over time. So there's been sort of a weakening of the overtime rules in the fair labor standards act, so more and more people are exempt, more and more people are in this category where you actually can be asked to work more than 40 hours a week and you don't have to be paid over time. So then your hours can balloon to whatever your boss feels like. There's also been a rise in what Derek Thompson at the Atlantic calls working, which is this idea that work should really be the centerpiece of your life and your identity. It should be really important. You should really be giving all of yourself to work. It sounds unhealthy. Sure, and it is, but at the same time, that attitude is incredibly common. It's super common in our industry. You know, I felt that way from time to time, you probably have to, I think a lot of quote unquote knowledge workers are kind of encouraged to embrace this work as and it's also great for our bosses, right? Not to be subversive or whatever, but it's good for capitalism, the more that we feel like work is our religion. So all this stuff contributes to folks who maybe their job does provide them health insurance, maybe they have a 401k, their job might still be making their life kind of bad because they're at work all the time. Then you have service workers who have a rise in what's called just in time scheduling, which means their schedules can be super unpredictable. Who's been at Starbucks 8 years, says she's seen the advent of optimal scheduling. When I was hired managers would be fired if they weren't putting schedules out three weeks in advance. But now it's every week and I believe it's the new automatic system only allows them to do a week in advance. But we're required to give 6 months in advance of availability of when we're available to work. So even if they're not working really, really long hours, maybe they have no idea what their hours are going to be week to week, they have to be on call constantly, sometimes they're doing cloning quote unquote, which is like where you close the store and then you open the store 6 hours later. Welcome back to my channel today. I'm gonna give you tips on how to survive the dreaded. I do a coping once a week, which is I close on one day and then open the very next day. And these are my tips to help you survive a late night followed by an early morning. So it can be almost like having a 50 hour 80 hour work week just because you never know when someone's going to call you. So just generally scheduling has become this huge problem and we're all at the mercy of our work, I think, in a way that labor reformers in the middle of the last century never never intended us to be. Not to mention a lot of the people in the service industry and the people who may have been clopping lost their jobs during the pandemic. Right, so I think the pandemic just made all of this worse and so many different ways that we can talk about. But one big thing it did is wipe away people's jobs. You know, millions of people lost their jobs last year. Disproportionately, people in the service industry, disproportionately low wage jobs where people didn't have a lot of savings. They couldn't afford to lose a job. And, you know, if your job was just providing you the minimum level of security before, now there's nothing. So I think that was the first step of being really disillusioned with jobs and employment in America. Okay, so to recap, just some of what you said, we're losing a lot of our worker protections. Other people are choosing to work more than ever, then there's people who are being abused in their work situations. A lot of those people have lost their jobs and then there's millions of people who are quitting their jobs. Where do we go from here? That all sounds really dark, Sean, but I think that we're seeing some interesting cultural changes right now. And the biggest thing that we've seen is that I think the pandemic has kind of led to this collapse in the meaning of work for a lot of people. So even over and above money and security health insurance, all the things we just talked about, you know, I think there's been the sense that we're provided a sense of purpose for people. It provided the sense of camaraderie, together with your coworkers. The pandemic really wiped a lot of that away. You know, suddenly office workers were working out of our houses where on Zoom. And I think that sense of purpose, like people are reevaluating their sense of purpose right now. They're questioning, this is a time of trauma. This is a time when people lost their lives. What's really important. And I think all that reevaluation, part of what it's leading to is people leaving their jobs. Switching jobs is now easier than ever for a lot of people. There are more companies going remote. Maybe these are people who have saved some money over the past year. And so they're looking at their lives and saying, why am I living like this? Why am I not doing something I'm passionate about? And, you know, we're seeing it not just in people who you might think financially, they have a lot of choices, lawyers, quitting, to have a better work life balance, but we see it in service workers who aren't making a ton of money, maybe they don't have a ton of money saved up, but they don't want to be in danger for a minimum wage anymore. So I think across the economy, we're kind of seeing something really change..
"four days" Discussed on Today, Explained
"We thought we'd use the occasion to revisit a show from earlier this year we made about exactly this kind of work week. It's called the four day workweek. We ran it just before it Labor Day. This episode and your response to it actually inspired us to bring you an entire series on the future of work, which you can revisit on your own time by scrolling back and your today explain feeds. In the meantime, here's how it all started. Welcome back to today explain thanks for joining us again this coming Monday is Labor Day so we're gonna take the day off and have a four day work week, but the company we work for vox media went ahead and gave us another day off this coming Friday AKA tomorrow, so we're feeling extra lucky to have two four day workweeks in a row. Now, I usually don't question extra days off but on the show today we're gonna talk about how our changing attitudes around work might actually change how we work. So I had to inquire about the extra Friday off this morning. I hit up my boss's boss's boss's boss, my great, great grand boss. You know, Sean, I think I just call us coworkers. Jim bankoff, CEO, vox media. Why'd you give us all another day off? Well, it starts with the fact that we have all been working our tails off through a pandemic. And we want to enable and empower our managers to encourage people to take more time. But what we also found is that it sometimes hard to do that because we have things to do and the things that we have to do not only revolve around our own schedules, but revolve around our coworker schedules and revolve around schedules of people outside of the company too. So we figured by having a day that everyone has off that would allow people to not feel the pressure of having to be there for their coworkers when they were collaborating on a project. So for all those reasons it all added up to like, yeah, let's do this. And we're happy that we did. Okay, as my colleague Jim mentioned, working through the pandemic has changed things. This isn't just a theory at this point. It's a game changing reality. My other colleague and a north wrote about it for vox in an article provocatively titled the death of the job. Yeah, I mean, I was really inspired by this sort of idea of the so called great resignation. People are quitting their jobs in droves in what's been dubbed the great resignation, pushing job vacancies to all time highs and a new survey from productivity from lattice found that 54% of respondents are looking to change jobs and 43% say their career paths have stalled or quote slowed to a crawl for context 4 million people quit their jobs in April alone. Dang. So to be clear, that's not like in a year that's in a month. It's a huge, huge number. It's a record. And so really kind of wanting to look into why and what the pandemic has done to jobs and work just got traumatic difficult and stressful in new ways. But I think the sort of flip side of that is that it has opened up this door to talk about what should the role of work be in people's lives. And I think that can actually be an interesting conversation that maybe can open the door to making our lives a little better. And I want to get to all the changes and what could come of them eventually. But in your piece, you talk a lot about the history of the American job. What did you discover when you looked into the background? Right, so a lot of the things that we sort of think of as mainstays of jobs today for better or for worse, they didn't come about by magic. They came about because labor activists fought for them. So for example, people in factories used to work 6 day weeks, 7 day weeks, incredibly long work weeks before labor organizers started working on this issue. Worked on it for a long time and then during the 1930s with the new deal we start to see these labor reforms getting enshrined into law. After many requests on my part, the Congress passed a fair labor standards act. What we call the wages and hours Bill. So we see the fair labor standards act, which means if you work over 40 hours a week, you're supposed to get over time. It is the most far reaching program, the most far sighted program to the benefit of workers that has ever been adopted. Here, or in any other country. And labor organizers are kind of pushing for other things to they don't always get them. A lot of folks wanted universal healthcare, for example, back in the 1930s, we think of this as something that we're arguing about today, but this was an argument back then. Well, how about the theory that the community can afford with the individual can't? Oh, so you've been bitten by that bug, Andy. The people of park is filled with a ten cents each a week. They could give him a medical service. That's a very beautiful idea. And maybe in 1960 a practical one, but it just won't work. They wanted a kind of universal retirement system, some things to really take care of people when they're too old to work. They didn't really get either of those things. And so in some cases, what they kind of settled for were some benefits that were tied to your job. So for example, health insurance tied to your job or pensions that were tied to your job where if you work a certain number of years at a certain company, then they'll kind of take care of your retirement. So instead of saying we're gonna have this social safety net that takes care of everybody, then we kind of get this conception where your job is sort of what takes care of you. What is like the ideal version of your job is supposed to take care of you and when does that sort of peak? Yeah, so we kind of get to this idea in the late 40s, the 1950s. 10,000s of homes, vigorous workmen rise to meet a new day and a new opportunity. The morning sun stirs the nation's workmen. Prompting them to their posts of daily service. You know, there's a certain category of job, often these are manufacturing jobs. These are jobs that are typically held by white men. Fred's a shop steward for the union which has an agreement with the mill. He represents the workers on the plant's labor management committee. These days, they're discussing production problems. You know, but these are jobs that thanks to the fair labor standards act. They're supposed to be 40 hours a week, or you get overtime. They pay you a certain amount, you know, sometimes they pay you enough that it doesn't just take care of your needs. It takes care of your kids and it takes care of, you know, you have a partner who may be able to stay home and take care of those kids. You know, it's the sort of what they call the quote unquote family wage. And then you get benefits out of that job, right? You get healthcare. And you had a pension at some point. So when you no longer are able to work or you're no longer want to work, you actually get paid. And you can take time and you can rest and play with your grandchildren. This is the sort of quote unquote American Dream ideal. And we're talking ideals, but this ideal was only ideal for segment of the population. Right. I think we have this ideal of how jobs used to be and the reality is that these kinds of jobs were only ever for certain people. For starters, there were lots of people who were left out of the fair labor standards act. So that includes domestic workers and agricultural workers who were disproportionately likely to be black or a LatinX or other people of color. And then it's also the case that there were big sectors of the economy that never had these kind of quote unquote good jobs. So if you worked in a customer service job, you worked in retail. Other service sector type jobs, they didn't really experience the same kind of 1950s peak. So one labor historian I talked to pointed out a lot of retail jobs were just considered women's jobs. So the idea is if you became a salesperson, you know, like a sales girl, quote unquote, for example, that people your employer would assume you don't actually need enough money to support a family because you're only a woman. You just need quote unquote pin money, which is like.
"four days" Discussed on Hello Monday by LinkedIn
"You got to create that space for long term thinking. Well, so there's one big question I just can't put out of my mind. Won't people in a four day work week just end up working on their three days off? I mean, just to keep up. Here's how Ryan sees it. Well, the prior problem was that that was happening on weekends. So people would tell me, I'm catching up on Sundays. We're always catching up on Sundays. It's like, okay, so you're exhausted for meetings Monday through Friday. And then you're like doing household errands are trying to take care of your family on Saturdays and you're catching up on Sundays. It's like no wonder you're burning out. And so at least we say no collaborative work Friday through Sunday. If you need to do some catch up work, that's great. But I much rather someone have a fully clear Friday do some catch up work then and have half a Friday and Saturday Sunday to them and their family, then the prior model where they're catching up on Sundays. Ryan is deeply committed to his workplace culture and to the conscious leadership he espouses. I asked Ryan what else he thinks his employees need from him? Employees want to be challenged, good employees. They want to be challenged. They want to grow. They want you to hold a high bar for them. And they want you to acknowledge and praise them when they achieve. And they want you to be honest with them when they don't. And so it's pretty simple. If you're a player on a sports team, you want your coach to recognize when you do well. But you lose trust in your coach if they don't give you real feedback when you're not doing well or they just put you on a bench and don't talk to you anymore. We have a lot of that in the workplace. I put the person on the bench and isolate them and give them some makeshift work. And we try to keep it real. That's kind of the theme. It's like be honest with your team care about the person, but don't pamper them, give them the real honest feedback and a kind and compassionate way and care about that person's success. So as you move forward with the four day structure in place, how do you envision tweaking it or experimenting with it in the future? I don't think we're going to tweak it that much. Now there's plenty that we're tweaking from a conscious culture standpoint. And so this is how we do meetings, how we write over talk. And those types of things are always being experimented with. Well, tell us about them. I'm very motivated to help create new norms in society. And our team is equally motivated. That's our culture. And we also are building a culture of courage, which is much needed in society today. And we're also being rewarded because everybody wants to join the company that has courage and is redefining norms. And so selfishly, it's a great thing for us to do. And so the norms will be more in favor of employees, but it's not going to be a pampering. Because that's what Google and Facebook tried to do. And there's also there's a lot of weirdness around that too. What do you mean by pampering? Is that the free lunch and we'll give you massages? Yeah, exactly. I don't think that's what human beings want. They want a rewarding enriching work environment where they get to have impact and they're treated well. And so and the company operates ethically. And when they get to be a part of a mission, that resonates with them. I want to come back to the four day workweek. If there's any roadblock for you on this in the future, what do you envision that it might be? It's that we haven't continued to uphold a high bar for performance and execution. Right? And we've overcorrected. And so the four day work week done right is where you have a high standard for execution and performance. And you're allowing people to do it with an accomplished that with less distractions. The fail case is where people are just working less and are still not performing, and so that's what you want to avoid. That was bolt CEO Ryan breslow, talking with us about his vision for a four day work week. And now I want to hear from you about what you have to say about all of this. If you could restructure your work life to actually fit your life life, what would it be like? Would you do for ten hour days, two days on, two days off all the time? Or maybe something else entirely. Build your case for your ideal work schedule and then come talk about it with me and Sarah storm, our producer this week on hello Monday office hours. We'll go live like we always do at 3 p.m. on Wednesday. That's eastern standard time. And we'll see what our community has to say. 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"four days" Discussed on The Small Business Radio Show
"I don't know if you need to go that far. I know with Lenovo, one of the things that surprised me was I think was just how productive we remained. It's really about getting the task done, getting the work done. And as long as that continues, whether it's a home or in the office, I think, you know, people will trust their employees to get their stuff done. Yeah, and that's the thing. If you can't trust your employees, get things done, they probably shouldn't be on your team. And I think that now more than ever, we really have to shift our focus to that working is not about time, but it's about what you get done. The whole concept of results oriented work. Yeah, I don't think there's any question about that. I think of an example, you know, my daughter goes to a very we live in a small town, south of Raleigh. And there's a small dance studio. You know, it's run by a dance instructor that I think she has maybe 60 maybe 70 students at the most. And then when the pandemic hit, you know, the kids couldn't go into practice dance. So what we see to do, and basically, that's where everybody, you know, my daughter would take her laptop out to the garage and turn on her camera and they had access I think they were using teams. Microsoft Teams. And they would have their class virtually. Which was I thought was an amazing solution. Not as good as being altogether. But at the same time, the teacher could watch their steps, the cameras were kind of on their feet. This was a clog in class, so they watched their feet. And gave the feedback. Yeah, I mean, it's certainly opens it up to if you can't make it to a physical location that you can still do it online. My wife teaches yoga. I mean, she's still doing it online on person. Not as good, but at least it's a substitute for not doing anything at all. Yeah, absolutely..
"four days" Discussed on The Small Business Radio Show
"If you're a photographer and you are looking for brands to shoot or influencers, you can search for them that way. So any sort of collaboration, any sort of way that you can see your business grow like minded can help with that. Now it's interesting because there's always been, I guess influencers and big time advertising campaigns. You'd have a famous actor, say, hey, you should buy home number 9. Because I use it. This is just really on a micro and targeted basis, right? Exactly. It's for people who are just starting out. And I feel like influencer marketing and influencers in general just come across this chicken and egg situation. They want to grow their brand. They want to grow their platform, but no brands will work with them because they don't have enough followers, but you're not going to get any followers and lets you start building your brand. So brands are in the same situation where they have a product they want their name out there, but influencers don't want to work with small brands. So it's really for these nano and micro influencers. These small businesses to connect and collab excuse me, connecting collaborate and help each other build. And there's nothing like this out there. So it's a small brand works on your platform with a influencer. What kind of what do they expect to pay in balin? What should they hope to be able to result do they expect to receive? So the platform is going to be $25 a month to use. And they get full access to the website. The search function, the message board. And from there, you can kind of pay as much as you want or as little as you want. You can offer free products. You can accept free products. You can charge upwards of 105 $100,000 for a post. So just all depends on the influencer and the brand and what they're able to do. So what kind of results have people been able to get? Again, I'm just trying to think someone says, all right, I want to do some influencer marketer. My budget is $500. I'm going to sponsor a 105 $100 post. What can they expect? What kind of results can they expect to achieve from that? Is it traffic to their website? Is it sales? How do you set.
"four days" Discussed on The Signal
"Wartime. So if this is something that's being considered in lots of places and that's at least partly because.
"four days" Discussed on The Signal
"We might just get you if you could to introduce yourself your name your title and wearing the world you're speaking to us from. I'm juliet shore. I'm a professor of sociology and also economist at boston college in boston massachusetts. Usa great shall we start with the definition when we say a four day week. What do we actually mean so. The current campaign which is called for a week is about giving workers five days pay in four days. Thirty two hours. So actually reducing from a forty hour week to a thirty two with no loss pay but with an increase in productivity so that the workers do in four days what they would typically do. I have so many questions about how in practice that works. But perhaps i we could trace the idea back to to its origins. What does this idea come from. There are sort of two ways of thinking about that. One is all the way back to the nineteenth century sort of eighteen seventies. Or so when you begin to get a movement to reduce working hours which had increased a lot with the industrial revolution. And you have really a hundred years or more in some countries of trade union pressure social pressure to give people more time off the job. Starting with sunday's off and then saturday's with a standard workweek of forty hours in many countries and so forth. So that idea of work. Time reduction has been around for a very long time. The particulars of this four day week are pretty recent and i would say the sort of key to understanding them is the nature of white collar work in modern workplaces. Which is that. There's a lot of low productivity time in much white collar work there too many meetings. There's too much email. So the idea for this shift is that there's enough slack. In many workplaces that people if given the chance to figure out how to reorganize and given the bonus of a day off could actually do in four days what they are doing and five and being paid for to do in five okay so a couple of important points there. We do have a long history of debating how much time it's right to spend at work and in terms of this more recent interest in limiting or reducing allah's. The focus has been on desk based or white collar work. That's presumably because there's less in the day as juliet says in retail or hospitality or healthcare or mining than in jobs which involve lots of sitting around and responding to emails. All bang zoom meetings right. So who's giving four days ago. And why now. There are a number of countries now that have announced highlights for four day weeks. A southern california congressman has introduced legislation. That would change the work week for most americans. The next labor government will reduce the efforts fulltime working week to thirty two hours within the next decade spain maybe taking steps towards shortening standard working week and the government is contributing fifty million euros to the project. The most sort of prominent are spain where the green party Got the government to agree to pay that fifty day for companies Than sort of over a period of years. They're going to be facing that out. But the companies don't have to take the risk that the productivity growth doesn't occur The scottish government has announced a trial for a four day week and the irish government is participating in a trial. I'm actually part of the research team for that. One which is starting in january and we are recruiting companies There's a united states campaign And their campaigns in the uk you've had a number of companies that have done this and the other dimension of this and the reason. I think it's it's gaining. Traction now is the impact of the pandemic because the pandemic shed allied on the work stresses the stresses of managing home and work particularly for people with children or other caregiving responsibilities The idea that we had this big shift but again for white collar workers to remote work which.
"four days" Discussed on Today, Explained
"I'm sure an idea like this would have some opposition. Are people afraid that this will make every american worker. You know one. V less productive for our capitalism. Sure so that's a worry that is natural for people to have and actually this was studied. There was a big study in iceland. Where a whole swath of workers had their hours cut by a few hours each week. I think they did. They did a thirty six hour. Workweek and the studies found that by and large productivity. Either stay the same or actually went up So people were getting more done in fact and then of course there are all these. Other benefits rate. People were happier. They were spending more time with their families. They had better social lives. You know in the study there was like a dad being quoted saying my kids are so excited when it's my half day because they know that we're going to hang out and she's like really sweet that's nice and actually since the studies came out. Iceland decided to enlarge part. Make this permanent so now. Eighty six percent of the population is either already working a shorter workweek or they have a contract that guarantees them that shorter workweek in the future. So this dream is going to be a reality there. Why do they think that people become more productive when they work less. I think there's a couple of things here. One is i mean and if you work in an office i think this will resonate with you or if you used to work in an office before the pandemic i think the resonate which is that. Some of our time at work is wasted. We have a lot of meetings to go to. Some of those meetings could probably be an email. Some of those meetings go on too long. There's also research showing that like after a certain amount of work. We just lose our ability to do work like not completely but we get worse that working so anyone who's just worked a super long week has felt this. You get burnt out. You get tired. you're not as efficient. You make more mistakes so a shorter workweek You know. Avoid some of those problems. Is this just another way for for white collar workers to end up with another benefit though and they'd have one more day off where potentially service industry workers in restaurants or movie theaters or big box stores would wind up with even more work to do tending to all these people. I think that's a real worry. And one thing that was really interesting to me about the iceland. Research is that it wasn't just office workers who were part of the research. It was also like i think law enforcement officers and folks who worked in childcare or also elder care so especially some of these care work jobs. It's not like you're spending that much time in meetings. When you're caring for toddlers i know because they have a toddler. Those are labor intensive jobs. And when you're on your on but they still found ways whether it was maybe the daycare center hires more people you know. Maybe it adjusts our slightly. They still found ways to make. These shorter workweeks work. So i think really the key if we're going to do something like this would be making sure that exactly what you're talking about. It's not just a benefit for white collar workers this is like a real shift across the economy and that it's coupled with making sure that people who have really unpredictable schedules or not enough hours have enough that they actually have enough work or enough benefits. They can live on them and for all the people who think this is just like a pie in the sky idea. I it's worth remembering right that that's so was you. Bi until during the pandemic the former president and the current. One just decided to give people fair sums of money right. Do you think because of that were a little bit closer to ideas like this than we were. Say before the pandey. Yeah i mean. We've seen so many things policy-wise that i thought we'd never see you know whether that's the child tax credit whether it's the stimulus whether it some of the stuff in the american rescue plan I think there's been this acknowledgement of people's basic needs in a way that there really wasn't before and i've just started to see a kind of cultural change. Maybe this is too optimistic but it used to be that whenever you talked about work and people work too much like people would kind of roll their eyes and especially you know in media or if you talked to like white collar professionals everyone would be like of course. We were too much but no. We're never going to do anything about it. That'd be ridiculous. And i just feel like it's different now. I feel like frankly. America's traumatized from the pandemic. Even those who are kind of relatively insulated I think there's a serious epsom needs a change there's a serious onslaught work is broken and for the first time when you say people work too much everyone kind of perks up listens and i'm hoping that that means maybe there's appetite for changing this not just going back to the way it was and north. Enjoy your weekend. Thanks so much. You do north. She's a full-time senior correspondent. Vox who also somehow managed to write a very good book while working here. It's called outlawed. it's a western. You can find it wherever you find your books. Today's show was produced by will read. I don't believe he's written a book yet but his future is bright. The rest of the team includes victoria chamberlain. Hiding mowatt be miles. Brian and halima shot a theme. Shapiro's our engineer matthew collects our editor. Ana saudis are mvp. Liz kelly nelson is. Fox's veep of audio jillian weinberger's the deputy music from brake master cylinder and noam hasn't felt facts are checked by laura bullard. I'm sean rama's firm. And i'm looking for a co host seriously. This episode has inspired me to work less. Maybe write a western one day. If you or someone you know is interested in partnering up with me you can find a job. Posting for co host of the day explained at the box media careers page. It's also hinted to the top of my twitter. I'm at rama's firm just reminder before we go were off in the next few days for labor day back tuesday september seventh. Take care once again the weekend..
"four days" Discussed on Today, Explained
"And we're seeing it not just in people who you might think financially. They have a lot of choices. You know lawyers quitting to have a better work life balance but we see it in service workers who aren't making a ton of money. Maybe they don't have a ton of money saved up but they don't wanna be endanger for minimum wage anymore. So i think across the economy. We're kind of seeing something really change.
"four days" Discussed on Today, Explained
"Literally or like jewelry and the thing yes money. Yes by check every two weeks. A bank account have a bank account. Okay so it's like there's this sort of idea of like you know maybe the man in the suit going off to the office or maybe the man in the jumpsuit. Going off to the factory but that was never every worker. There's always been lots and lots of workers who weren't going to the office and they weren't going to the factory and those folks never really had access to the kind of quote unquote good job that we think of as kind of formulating the american dream and what happens between then and now then we got this situation where there's fewer and fewer of the good jobs and more and more of the bad jobs manufacturing for example they've really eroded in the. Us service has really exploded. There's lots more service jobs. This was an industry that never had the same kind of norms ray. These weren't good jobs. They didn't have good wages. They didn't have hours all this kind of stuff. Then we have the erosion of unions so workers have less power to bargain for their conditions. And things just kind of get crappier and crappier for lack of a better word. Pensions become less. Common in favor of sort of 401k's and retirement accounts that rely way more on the worker to be putting away money versus somebody. Kinda putting away money for you. The rate of people who have health insurance through their job goes down. Wage growth stagnates. There's lots of actors. We can point to but basically overtime. You're nineteen fifties job. That's kind of providing all your needs it just just becomes less and less common fewer and fewer people have that kind of job and even the people who do have jobs that are providing for all their needs. It feels like those people might be working more now than ever before rates. So the other thing we've seen is that you know white collar work sort of professional work you know those workweeks and those work days of just gotten really long and i think something that we've seen a written about. This elsewhere is just a general worsening of people's schedules over time so there's been sort of a weakening of the overtime rules in the fair labor standards act some more and more people are exempt more and more people are in this category where you actually can be asked to work more than forty hours a week and you don't have to be paid overtime so then you're hours can balloon to whatever your boss feels like. There's also been a rise in what derek thompson at the atlantic calls work. Ism which is this idea that you work should really be the centerpiece of your life and your identity. It should be really important. You should really give be giving all of yourself to work. It sounds unhealthy. Sure and it is but at the same time like that. Attitudes incredibly common. It's super common in our industry. You know. I felt that way from time to time. You probably have to think a lot of quote unquote knowledge workers or kind of encouraged to embrace this work. As i'm an is also great for our bosses right not to be you know like subversive or whatever but it's good for capitalism the more than we feel like work as our religion so all this stuff contributes to folks who maybe their job does provide them health insurance maybe they have a 401k. Their job might still be making their life kind of bad because they're at work all the time. Then you have service workers who have a rise in what's called just in time scheduling. Which means their schedules can be. Super unpredictable walks. Who's been at starbucks. Eight years says she sees the advent of optimal scheduling. When i was hired managers would be fired if they weren't putting schedules out. Three weeks in advance But now it's every week. And i believe it's the new automatic system only allows them to do a week in advance. But we're required to give six months in advance of availability of when we're available to work so like even if they're not working really really long hours maybe they have no idea what hours are going to be week to week. They have to be on call constantly. You know sometimes they're doing claw opening quote unquote which is like where you close the store and then you open the store. Six hours later tie channel today. I'm gonna give you tips on how to survive the dreaded khlopin. I do a coffin once a week which is closed on one day and that opened the very next day and these are my tips to help you survive a late night followed by an early morning so it can be almost like having a fifty our eighty hour work week just because you never know when someone's going to call you so just generally scheduling has become this huge problem and we're all sort of at the mercy of our work. I think in a way that labor reformers in the middle of the last century never never intended us to be not to mention a lot of people in the service industry in the people who may have been close opening. Lost their jobs during the pandemic right so you know. I think that the pendulum just made all this worse in so many different ways that we can talk about but one big thing it did is wipe away people's jobs. Millions of people lost their jobs last year. Disproportionately people in the service industry. Disproportionately low wage jobs or people didn't have a lot of savings they couldn't afford to lose a job. And if your job was just providing you the minimum level of security before now. There's nothing so. I think that was like the first step of being really disillusioned with jobs and employment in america. Okay so to recap just some of what you said. We're losing a lot of our worker. Protections other people are choosing to work more than ever. then there's people who are being abused in their work situations. A lot of those people have lost their jobs and then there's millions of people who are quitting their jobs. Where do we go from here. That ha- sounds really dark. Sean but i think that we're seeing some interesting cultural changes right now and like the biggest thing that we've seen is that i think the pandemic has kind of led to this collapse in the meaning of work for a lot of people so you know even over and above you know sort of money and security health insurance all the things we just talked about you know. I think there's been the sense that work provided a sense of purpose for people it provided the sense of camaraderie. You know you're together with your co workers. The pandemic really wiped a lot of that away. You know suddenly office workers rate. We're working out of our houses. Were on zoom. And i think that sense of purpose like people are reevaluating their sense of purpose right. Now they're questioning. you know. this is a time of trauma. This is a time when people lost their lives. Like what's really important. And i think all that reevaluation part of what. It's leading to his people leaving their jobs. Switching jobs is now easier than ever for a lot of people that are more companies going remote. Maybe these are people who have saved some money over the past year and so they're looking at their lives and saying why am i living like this. Why am i not doing something. I'm passionate about.
"four days" Discussed on Today, Explained
"Today explained. Thanks for joining us again. this coming. Monday is labor days. We're gonna take the day off and have a four day workweek but the company we work for vox. Media went ahead and gave us another day off this coming friday aka tomorrow so we're feeling extra lucky to have two four day workweeks in a row. Now i usually don't question extra days off and on the show today we're gonna talk about how are changing attitudes around work. Might actually change how we work. So i had to inquire about the extra friday off this morning. I hit up my boss's boss's boss's boss my great great grand boss. Sean i think just call us co workers. Jim bank off c. o. Vox media. why did you give us all another day off. Well it starts with the fact that we have all been working our tails off through a pandemic and we wanted to enable and empower our managers to encourage people to take more time but what we also found is that. It's sometimes hard to do that because we have things to do and the things that we have to do not only revolve around our own schedules but revolve around our coworkers schedules and revolve around schedules of people outside of the company to so we figured by having a day that everyone has off that would allow people to not feel the pressure of having to be there for their co workers When they were collaborating on a project you know so for all those reasons it all added up to like yeah. Let's do this and we're happy that we did okay. As my colleague. Jim mentioned working through the pandemic has changed things. This isn't just a theory at this point. It's a game changing reality. My other colleague anna north wrote about it for vox in an article provocatively titled the death of the job. Yeah i mean. I was really inspired. By the sort of idea of the so-called great resignation people are quitting their jobs in droves. And what's been dubbed the great resignation pushing job vacancies to all-time highs and a new survey from productivity for laddis found that fifty four percent of respondents are looking to change jobs and forty three percent. Say they're queer passive stalled or quote slowed to a crawl for context. Four million people quit their jobs in april alone danes so to be clear that's not like in a year that's in a month. It's a huge huge number. It's a record. And so it really kind of wanting to look into why and what the pandemic has done to jobs and you know work just got traumatic difficult and stressful in in new ways. But i think the sort of flip side of that is that it has opened up this door to talk about what should the role of work be in people's lives. And i think that can actually be an interesting conversation that maybe can open the door to making our lives a little better and i want to get to all the changes and what could come of them eventually but in your piece you talk a lot about the history of the american job. What did you discover when you looked into the background right so a lot of the things that we sort of think of as mainstays of jobs today for better for worse. They didn't come about by magic. They came about because labor activists fought for them so for example people in factories used to work six day week seven day weeks. You know incredibly long work. Weeks before labor organizers sort of started working on this issue worked on it for a long time and then during the nineteen thirties with the new deal. We start to see these labor reforms getting enshrine into law after money. Requests my papa. Congress passed a found labor standards but what we call the wages hours bill so we see the fair labor standards act which means if you work over forty hours a week. You're supposed to get overtime far reaching program. The most boss cited grow the benefit of work that has been adopted here or in any other. Country and labor organizers are kinda pushing for other things too. they don't always get them. A lot of folks. Wanted universal health care for example back in the nineteen thirties. We think of this is something that were arguing today. But this was an argument back then. How about the theory that the community can afford with the individual. Can't oh so you've been bitten by that boga. The people have pockets. Bill pay ten cents each week could give him a medical service very beautiful idea. And maybe in nineteen sixty practical one but it just won't work. They wanted a kind of universal retirement system. You know something to really take care of people when they're to work they didn't really get either of those things. And so in some cases what they kind of settled for. Were some benefits that were tied to your job so for example health insurance tied to your job or pensions. That were tied to your job. Where if you work a certain number of years at a certain company then they'll kind of take care of your retirement so instead of saying we're going to have the social safety net that takes care of everybody then we kind of get this conception where your job is sort of what takes care of you. What is like the ideal version of your job is supposed to take care of you. And when does that sort of peak. Yes so we kind of get to this idea. And the the late forties the nineteen fifties in of home vigorous workman rise to meet a new day and a new opportunity. No morning none. The nation's workman prompting them to their daily service. There's a certain category of job often. These are manufacturing jobs. These are jobs that are typically held by white men prejudice shop steward for the union which has an agreement with a mill. He represents the workers on the plants labor management committee these days. They're discussing production problems because these are jobs that thanks to the fair labor standards act. There's supposed to be forty hours a week or you get overtime. They pay you a certain amount you know. Sometimes they pay you enough that it doesn't just take care of your needs. It takes care of your kids and it takes care of you know you have a partner who may be able to stay home and take care of those kids you know. It's the sort of what they call the quote unquote family wage. And then you get benefits out of that job right you get healthcare and you had a pension at some point so when you no longer are able to work or you're no longer want to work you actually get paid and you can take time and you can rest and play with your grandchildren. This is the sort of you know. Quote unquote american dream ideal. And we're talking ideals but this ideal was only ideal for a segment of the population right. I think we have this ideal of how jobs used to be and the reality. Is that these kinds of jobs. Were only ever for certain people for starters. There were lots of people who are left out of the fairly rare standards so that includes domestic workers and agricultural workers who were disproportionately likely to be black or a latin acts or other people of color and then it's also the case that there were big sectors of the economy that never had these kind of quote unquote good jobs so if you worked in a customer service job you worked in retail other service sector type jobs. They didn't really experience the same kind of nineteen fifties peak so one labor historian. I talked to pointed out a lot of retail jobs. Were just considered women's jobs so the idea is if you like became a salesperson a sales girl quote unquote for example that people your employer would assume you don't actually need enough money to support a family because you're only a woman you just need quote unquote pin money. Which is like money to buy pens.
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"four days" Discussed on 1A
"Jim from the mountains of north carolina. Beautiful place here and joining us from italy. Is natalie nagel. She's the ceo and co founder of the software company. Wild bit natalie. It's great to have you on. Thanks for having me. I'm it's a beer. No naturally you and all the employees at your company work four days a week and that's thirty two hours rather than forty not just forty hour squish into four days. And you may the change back in two thousand seventeen salaries aren't any last. What happened to your business when you made the shift. We were on our after first year reflected and we actually did a lot more work than we had done the previous year over these last four years our company has grown faster than it has in the previous sixteen years. We've been business. Alex you've been tracking this trend in new spoken to hundreds of business owners who've also moved to four day workweeks. How popular is this well. It is a movement that started a few years ago. Natalie was one of the early adopters in the us. But you know now. There are hundreds of companies in industries around the world. Who are doing it. So it's really. It's really taken off even in an almost. Because of the pandemic professor honeycutt the cycle of the five day workweek than the two day weekend feels totally ingrained in our society. But it's actually something of a modern construct. How in win did the five day workweek start. The five day workweek came in gradually at the first part of the twentieth century. That followed a long process of shorter hours. The idea of gradually reducing work hours long when it goes back in our history of this country back to the colonial days of people in the nineteenth century americans in nineteenth and twentieth century saw the progressive shortening of the hours of labour part of of of progress part of the definition of progress and the five day week was simply part of that. A gradual drawing down a work increasing leisure the eight hour day of course would be the other part of it and retirement the other part so it was a process again. We have really no additions to the weekend since the nineteen twenties That that process of work reduction stopped a mid-century and The question that i've had as a historian wanted that process that no one really expected to stop and they did stop. Maybe it's beginning again. It's hard to tell so so what you're saying is is there. Was this expectation that we would continue to be able to work less in building more leisure time. But that actually hasn't really happened not hasn't on the four day week is not something that's novel or a liberal conspiracy of it goes back Review from the new york times headline odd date. September twenty third nineteen fifty six above the fold sunday times nixon. Richard nixon foresees four day workweek. This is a nineteen fifty. Six read bit more as a part of the campaign vice president richard nixon for saul tonight for the not too distant future afford a day workweek in a fuller american a for all americans. These are not idle dreams or or boasts their simple projections of the gains. We have made in the last four years. Nixon says now this is important. Our hope is to double everyone's standard of living and ten years notice there. He's defining reduced working hours the four day week here As part of american standard of living. And that's the way you short hours were understood for over a century in this country as both higher wages and shorter hours both gradually one increasing wages the other decreasing short hours that as recently as nineteen fifty-six nixon's speech here on on natalie. I wanna bring you in because you switched your company to a four day. Workweek in twenty seventeen after being inspired by computer scientists cal newport and a term he coined called deep work. It's my term for when you're focusing without distraction on a cadre demanding task which is something we've all done but we had never really given it a name necessarily it was separate from other type of work and so i gave it a name and said let's compare that to other types efforts. You might do while you're working and see that the deep work efforts actually have a huge benefit. We might be underestimating. How did that concept of deep work inspire you to transition your company to the four day workweek. Yeah when we. I read cows book and tigers. Two thousand sixteen two thousand seventeen. The thing that really was startling was the a lot of the science around how much deep work we're actually capable of producing in a single day and you know at at that time. The the signs was showing that. It's around you max out at around four hours a day real deep work. The work that were hired to do you know not checking email or sitting in a meeting and so we looked at it and said well four times five days a week. That's twenty hours a week. What on earth are we all doing for forty hours a week and we're really gave us the idea that like. Why can't we try to just work. Prioritize deep work in our workweek and work less hours. That's what was the beginning of the experiment where we dropped a friday and said let's just give it a shot and see what falls apart if we just really focus on. How do we maximize company and as individuals are deep work every day and work a lot less but at the same or better work done and that book. You're referencing by cal. Newport is called deep work rules for focused success in distracted world. How much were you also motivate it though by trying to improve the quality of life for your employees absolutely. I think you know when people ask me often. Is this for productivity sake. I think you know it's it's a if we were focused primarily on productivity on sucking out every ounce of tepe worked for my team we'd probably work five six hour days you know because you can't you wanna short in the days but for us. It was a combination of you. Know how productive can we be. Can we do our best work in four days but then also add this extra day of rest and i think there's like this real importance to the three consecutive days of rest that allows our teammates and ourselves to really connect with our families. Connect with ourselves connected our communities have that moment of a regrouping being present and then coming back to work. I think we said earlier really refreshed really excited. I think one of the interviewers you had recorded said you know people are relaxed thing more calm had tremendous impact on everybody's just personal psyche and energy and all of that by having these three for us really important. These three consecutive days of rest. 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"four days" Discussed on Squawk Pod
"Ground proposal representativity you've been in the trenches trying to to work this out and make some sort of a deal happened. Can you just give us the latest. I know all the details are there yet. But what would this plan. Look like if it were by. Well the latest been mad we now see on the senate side that roughly mirrors a lot of what we negotiated in the problem solvers caucus in the house of the problem solvers caucus is twenty nine democrats twenty nine republicans. We a couple weeks ago. Put forward our proposal building bridges about one point two five trillion our now seeing movement in the senate with twenty one senators ten democrats and republicans approximately a trillion dollar package. A so now. We're seeing some movement in the senate so making us optimistic that we can't get a bipartisan. Deal package representativity. What have you heard from from the leadership. Both in the house and in the senate. Because i think that's been a big question to every time you have more republicans who come on board. There's the threat that you'll lose some of the progressive democrats. Where where does the leadership stand. Listen i think that in this package. There's nothing more bipartisan than infrastructure. I think we can all agree. We have crumbling roads and bridges across this country waterway. Our waterways are ports. There's definitely on a consensus that we need to invest in infrastructure. And certainly a lot of this is gonna be the devils in the details especially in the wars you know. We made a concerted efforts. I talk about the size than look at the scope. That's exactly what we're doing. This very complicated. I think that we're seeing movement in their certainly an appetite to get something done the pay for us have to be the trickiest. Part of all of this is going to come. You think with with taxes being raised. Because that's been a sticking point for at least the republican leadership. Yeah i mean first of all. There's a slew of proposals on the pay for. I think the most important is closing the tax gap i ins and also looking at some partnerships public private partnerships. So obviously this is gonna be the the big negotiating. Part of this package is how we pay for all of this. But what we're seeing in the package that came out of the senate is five hundred. Seventy nine billion dollars of new spending. I think that's a sign that we're moving in the right direction governor hogan. How important is this from maryland. What do you need in terms of infrastructure right now in your state. Well i would say all governors some both sides of the aisle really believed this is a top priority. And we're pleased that we're finally making progress. This really isn't a republican or democratic issue. I think the leadership on both sides. You know didn't wanna go big enough. The democrats want to too big that include a lot of things that had nothing to do with infrastructure. And i take my hat off to our group the problem solvers caucus which is part of no labels and the group of the g. Twenty group of bipartisan senators in senate for getting us where we are and we had very encouraging news out of the white house the president sounding like he does want to continue on in a bipartisan. Way it means it means a lot of means jobs as coming out of this pandemic trying to grow our economy and put people to work and it's critically important. It also i think is is the administration's to show that they are willing to work in a bipartisan way. As as go biden on talked about in his inauguration representative leave out a all ask one more time just in terms of what you hear from the leadership. What is nancy pelosi. Signaled what has schumer signaled or are they waiting to see what president biden signals. I definitely we're expecting hear back from the white house today on this proposal of the senate on. I think that that's going to be an indication of where we're heading. I mean i. I know that there's a definitely an appetite to get this done on a bipartisan manner. This part of the package. Obviously looking to conciliation as well listen. This is the biggest investment infrastructure that we've ever seen so clearly. It's complicated taking some time. I think most importantly the leadership wants us to get a package done. And and so. I'm looking forward to hearing what the white house has to say today. In response to the senate plan if the white house scuttled at this point is that is that. Is that game over legit. I don't think the white house is going to scuttle it. I definitely been in contact with all of us both house side in senate side as we walked through these steps in trying to get to this package of the president has made it clear he does not wanna raise taxes on individuals. Earning under four hundred thousand dollars In obviously we have to. There's gonna be some serious negotiations on. And they take time. I think we need to look at all of this in a holistic manner on and so. I think that we're going to see the step by step forward. That would preclude. If you don't want to raise taxes on anyone under for making under four hundred thousand dollars that would preclude raising the gas tax. Which is something that some democratic senators have kind of been in favor of to correct. Yes i you know. I think the president has been very clear that he does not wanna raise taxes on those making under four hundred thousand dollars. Guest certainly would be that and again. I think we have to look at all. These pay for says a package i. You can't work at one of them in a vacuum and so And again is gonna be the hardest part of these. Negotiations is how we pay for this. Governor are there any taxes or any pay for is that you would be opposed to or is it just more important for you to to see some sort of deal come together and some sort of infrastructure spending get put into place whereas representative lisa reaching the spending number. It was the was the big first step to go from two point. Three trillion down to one trillion. So that's that's the we're all the effort has been But i think we can really do this without raising taxes. And the smith different proposals from the house problem solvers. And from some of the senator you know there's there's going to be pushed back from both sides about raising taxes. I'm not sure. That's what america wants but private sector of public private partnerships is a big part of it. Unspent money on other things and shifting around some priorities and where we're spending money now can get pretty close and you know we've got to figure out the last Last few miles to go On how we're going to come up with bay force clever last few miles for the infrastructure. Bill governor representative wanna thank you both for being with us today. Thank you will be next. Unsquashed pod long weekends forever. The atlantic's joe pinsker on companies that are successfully experimenting with a four day. Workweek meyer given is much more about giving workers more time outside of work to do things that they care about to rest from works that they return more focused a three day weekend in that context seems to really help rejuvenate people our same pay same work more weekend right after this. I'll steer means. Pj navigates market volatility with an active investment approach designed to capture opportunities globally. Join the pursuit of outperformance at p. Jim dot com. 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