9 Burst results for "Fossey Verdon"
Awards Chatter
"fosse verdon" Discussed on Awards Chatter
"Really thinking about pitfalls or anything. I really like to go with my first impulse. Yeah? And I mean, I think you were, there was no backlash, was there for doing all you were pretty. Well, here's the thing. I mean, you can't. Pay inequality is not a difficult subject to talk about. It's not partisan. And you can't really disagree with it. Right. A woman's right to choose, however. You got a little popular. Well, anyway, it's been interesting though. Just with each one of these crazy things that have wrapped the industry, you've been pretty, you've had a front row seat for better or worse, but all right, Fosse verdon so great. This is an 8 part limited series 2019 and I wonder, I guess I was gonna say it's like your first time doing TV since Dawson's creek, but the truth is it's like a totally different world and TV, right? Yes, that's what they were telling me. That's why you were willing to entertain it. Yes, they said it's not a long contract. People, yeah, lots of interesting content being created on television now and for me, I have always been looking for jobs that keep me at home in New York City. We moved from the country back to Brooklyn at a certain point and my daughter's life and I she has stayed. She has never left school for as long as we've been living back in Brooklyn. She has stayed in her community with her friends and that's because I've really sought out work that would keep me at home. And so, you know, a lot of this theater, greatest showman. These are opportunities that I was very excited about, and they also, and then doubly excited because they really worked for my family. Yeah. And again, same with Fosse, there I am, and I get to work at home. I know exactly where I'm going to be for the next 6 months. And connecting cabaret greater showman and Fosse verdon. I mean, would you have ever imagined, let's say, a few years even just before cabaret that you would be putting yourself out there singing and dancing and doing stuff that, I mean, it doesn't seem like that was the trajectory. No, absolutely not. You know, but I did, you know, the first, like I said, the first thing that I ever saw that made me want to act was a kids musical production. So there was something in me that was inclined in that direction. And that was sort of maybe secretly waiting or hoping. And there's a lot of joy in singing and dancing. When you sing and you dance, you feel like a child, you feel free. There's so much going on that you don't really have time to think critically because you are absorbed and rhythm and melody and time passes. Yeah. With brokeback, I think your character ages, I don't remember how many years, but not as long as no, not as long as from 1955, I guess when she and Fosse meet until 87 when he literally dies in her arms, so 20 two years was that aspect of it.
Awards Chatter
"fosse verdon" Discussed on Awards Chatter
"Because it's a bigger production. There's a bigger risk and so there's a bigger opportunity to sort of fail on a large scale, you know, making these movies with Kelly feels like you're working within the context of family and maybe only the people in your family will ever see the film. And the New York Film Festival. Yeah. So it seems like in recent years when you've been given an opportunity to kind of a big public platform and part of this, I think, was after Fosse verdon, which will come to in a second, but you've chosen to be more outspoken about whether it's like me too stuff or pay equity, inequity, or different stuff. I just wonder if there was something that maybe changed in you when, I mean, for a lot of people, I think it changed. But when all this starting with Harvey and then everything after in 2017 onwards, then you were also, I guess, thinking back with there was the stuff even with all the money in the world, where it almost destroyed this movie based on what happened there, then there was the pay equity on that on that movie as well. I guess just do you think you were changed by being so close to so much of the bad stuff that had that began to come out? Well, I think we all were, which is what me too really brought to light is that we were all connected by our experiences. And we had all been separated by our experiences and put into, you know, dark rooms. By our experiences and Toronto Burke, she broke the locks off. And all of a sudden, you know, women could come together, share with each other, heal with each other, support each other, help each other. It was an incredible thing to be a part of. And as far as becoming more outspoken, you know, it's hard to not speak out. It just seemed like the most obvious thing in the world. It did not strike me ever that there was another option. I found myself at the center of this situation. I saw no other option than to speak directly and personally about it. And again, I've always had a kind of jump off and then figure out where you're going to land on the way down. Part of my personality. And so that I stepped into it without
Awards Chatter
"fosse verdon" Discussed on Awards Chatter
"By the sea, and 2017s The Greatest Showman. On Broadway in 2014s cabaret and 2016s blackbird. And on TV in the 2019 limited series, Fosse verdon. I'm talking, of course, about Michelle Williams. In 2002, William shined as brightly as ever in Steven Spielberg's autobiographical film, the fable men's, playing mitzi fable men, a thinly disguised version of Spielberg's own mother, the late Leah Adler, opposite Paul Dano, Seth Rogen, and Gabriel Labelle. Spielberg has said that her performance made him feel like he had his mother back again. And as someone who had the pleasure of meeting his mother at the Milky Way, the west LA kosher restaurant that she ran in her later years, I can totally see why. Williams nails Adler's physical appearance, manner of speaking, and unmistakable joie de vivre. And this season, Williams has already received a special tribute at the Gotham awards and was nominated for the best actress in a drama Golden Globe Award. And she is nominated for the best actress critics choice award with the best actress Oscar nomination likely to follow. Over the course of our conversation at the hotel Bel Air, the 42 year old and I discussed the pros and cons of her years as a child actor, emancipated from her parents, the period of grief that she experienced, following sudden death of Heath Ledger, her costar in Brokeback Mountain and the father of her oldest child in 2008, and the degree to which it made her consider walking away from acting, what led her to pursue naturalism in her early performances, but more recently to embrace expressionistic work, why she had a harder time saying goodbye to her character from the fable moons than any other that she has played, plus much more. And so without further ado, let's go to that conversation.
Pop Culture Happy Hour
"fosse verdon" Discussed on Pop Culture Happy Hour
"The fall is absolutely festooned with new album releases. Its just going to continue. Probably well into october or in the case of abba november. So that is just a kind of brief overview of the onslaught that awaits us is on what a lot of music to listen. Thank you very much stephen. So here's my first pick. The netflix limited series made is ten episodes long. It is based on stephanie. Lands book made hard work low pay and a mothers will to survive. That's made ma. Id it stars margaret qualley. Who you might know from anything from Once upon a time in hollywood to fosse verdon. She's an interesting young actress. Who's been kind of popping up in various different things for a while. She is the lead here. She is in practically. Every scene of this and sheep plays a young single mother who takes her little daughter to try to get away from her boyfriend. And she's not playing stephanie. Land specifically even though stephanie lands book is a memoir she's playing a different character. It's one of those words kind of based on the ideas that came out of the book so after she leaves the boyfriend she winds up getting into working as a maid. But more than that. What this series is about is about the mechanics of being poor so a lot of what it is concerned with is. What is it like to try to deal with. Different systems of government assistance. What is it like to actually try to use those forms of assistance out in the world. What are the requirements. It sounds like i mean it sounds makes things sound boring when you say like. It's part of. It's about paperwork but part of it is about paperwork. It has a as. I said margaret qualley and she is the real life daughter of andie macdowell. An andie macdowell plays her mother. In this andie mcdowell if you've been watching her has been having a really kind of interesting career progression whereafter this kind of ingenue moment. She now you know she did this. Really cool and interesting appearance in in the second magic mike movie where people were like the and i think i think you'll be interested to see her in this. This also stars a nica. Nonni rose who is good in everything. i think. I'm brushing up against the embargo. But it's a secret whether i liked it still. I'm just going to tell you i. I am interested in seeing how people react to it. It is coming out on october first on net flicks and that is my first pick. Now we go to glen for his second pick. Glenn what is your second pick. A second pick is a film called may day which is coming to theaters. I'm afraid which. But it's coming through theaters october first and i'm just going by the trailer here. I wanna make that clear. I haven't seen it. But i am intrigued. Its debut movie written and directed by karen shinora about a young waitress who escapes from her abusive boss by climbing into a restaurant stove and finds herself on an island. That is home to a group of young women who live on a beached submarine and use the submarines radio to lower world war. Two soldiers to their deaths now look. It's a formula for a reason right now. Critics who sought at sundance are a pretty much down the middle. All of them praised the look And when once you check out the trailer you will to The tone the premise but about half of them said it doesn't answer the questions. It raises which i'm going to guess are many. Maybe it does. Maybe it doesn't. I don't know but check out the trailer and tell me you're not intrigued. That his mayday in theaters october. First okay thank you. Very much glen. Well then mayday. October first asia. It looks like you also have a movie up for your second pick. Oh yes i do. So i watched maybe the first seven or eight cycles of america's next top model I was obsessed with it. I loved it. I still quote tyrez saying we're all rooting for you. Do we all that was like my one. My one four way into fashion other than that. I don't know anything about fashion. I don't get fashion world. I think it's cold up more into it. But i don't understand it. But yet i am. Very fascinated by house of gucci is going to be indicators on november twenty fourth. Because you've got lady gaga. You've got adam. Driver do jared leto. Jeremy irons summa. Heck al pacino. This cast now often giant blockbuster casts like this do not necessarily mean that the movie is going to be any good and this movie might not be good. But i'm hoping it'll be at least a very fun mess because i it's it's selling very dramatic story. It's got some based off. The trailer has very ryan murphy. Esque feel to it. And maybe i'm just placing that on him. Because i'm thinking of the jani for saatchi show he did. And then the fact that lady gaga has worked with him but lady. gaga's playing patrizia. Reggiani and adam driver is playing maurizio. Gucci and patrizia reggiani was married to gucci who at the time was like the head of obviously up gucci And she apparently hired someone to kill him. And so it's it's got murder it's got it's got lady gaga doing even more dramatic than we saw her doing a star is born so i'm just really excited to see how fund and messy and perhaps who knows not that great movie will be but it looks fabulous. It sounds loud is in it. It's going to be loud. it's going to have a a kind of a sketchy accent. But i mean this trailer grabbed most people in six words. Those six words being father son on house of gucci. Which sounds like she's a vampire but you know what i'm in the close. It's nothing else. All right fascinating house of gucci november twenty fourth. My second pick is a book. I don't wanna be the one who says that. I am always responsible for bringing up and coming writers previously. Unrecognized undiscovered onto your into onto your radar but there is a guy named. What is the name here. Colson whitehead so far has only two pulitzer prizes for pass novels the nickel boys and the underground railroad and he has a new novel coming out called a harlem shuffle which is coming out soon september fourteenth and i think that it is safe to say there are certain authors who you know that when they put a novel out people are going to have a bunch of interesting conversations about it. This is apparently both a family story. And sort of crime fiction taking place in the new york of the nineteen sixties. I believe one of the reasons i picked. This is that. I don't always believe in just because it's this person it's important because i think that can lead to a little bit of like here's what the cannon is and he here are the insiders and outsiders and all that stuff but here is somebody where it's like. Okay if this is who wrote this then you're going to want to have this on your radar and you're going to want to kind of have that in your in your line of sight so again. September fourteenth harlem shuffle colson. Whitehead going for the The three peat of posts a hat trick pulitzer prizes. So that is my second pick stephen. You're going to bring us.
Do By Friday
"fosse verdon" Discussed on Do By Friday
"The worst word comparing it to a word you can't say that's the worst word. Oh gosh. I hope. John mullany happy. He's a tall boy. Id to on google news that he's doing some kind of multi nightstand record-breaking multi stan. I hope he's happy. And i hope he's. I hope he's never canceled. I considered going to that show until america decided the pandemic was over. And then. I don't know what that noise was to quote unquote dumb chef from apocalypse. Now a movie elect quit sometimes. Because i'm a middle aged man and it can't use all the time. Never get out of the boat. That's my at this point. My feeling is never get out of the boat. I'm standing in the boat forever now. I'm going nowhere. Oh 'cause remember. He gets attacked by a tiger. No spoilers but he goes in the jungle there's a tiger and he gets freaked out and then jumps back in bonuses. Never get out of the boat. Never get out of the moon. I did i mean. I ordered the big boy Masks because you know. We don't know how i wanna make it We got a bunch of canned ninety. Five you're talking about We have a bunch of ken. Ninety five's but boy mask. Is that like the helmet you like to wear and funny photos. No that's a great one but no like the n ninety five osho proved I mean the. I'll be that guy in admit privately to my friend. I find it very difficult to pres in wall when we had the we're wearing them on the flight and i found myself across purposes like basically grabbing the thing off the bridge of my nose. And being like you know. Oh also by the way my friend nelson scrape host about seep of puna c. Pap machine dealing with the sleep apnea. I think i'm going to do it. Pretty oh interesting. i'll send it to you or put it notes nelson nelson read the script post about it and he made it sound like something. That's doable and includes a matt. How he liked way includes product recommendations which always gets my tension. I took you way off. What you're doing. I should close zendaya thing. That probably should be out now. I'd love i'd love. she's in. She's in the greatest showman she's like a trapeze growing. That i still haven't seen that. I'm you know what. I love wolverine and almost everything he he's in but he's a great oklahoma. We know you hate what story oklahoma though right west side story i do but do you like oklahoma. I for what it is. We're running out. Ice comes sweeping down the point. I love son. Heim is what i will say. He didn't write that. I know though boy the it's fine i watched. I watched all that jazz on a plane with the sound off. It was amazing. Oh i love that. I love that movie you ever seen. No i'm thinking of all that jazz. I'm thinking about directed by bob fossey about bob. Fosse starring roy scheider and ranking. And it's it's a very interesting movie. Is this hockey no no. It's it's basically about him his life falling apart and having a massive mess massive heart attack. And we've got like jessica lang plays an angel and it's it's very interesting music. The dancing scrape rush. Great showtime folks. Oh nineteen seventy nine. Yeah yeah yeah. 'cause he'd been directing a lot. He had Covers this in the movie through. Like sort of a ramana. Klay like editing. The lenny bruce movie you know. He did cabaret directed that i believe. Oh the pajama game. Damn yankee oh oh yeah. But that's back when he was a dancer he's dancing man tiny dancing man late and loafers dancing matter literal dancing. I still know. oh he was a choreographer. Wow that's just. That's his gig. Yeah and that's where mick. When verdon a playboy that lady in and he was he was sam rockwell in the show about them fosse verdon. Oh god old moves are crazy bone you up. We need to build you up on bob. Fosse wanna bone on bone up on. Bob fossey i. This is a man who can pull off of fedora. And there's like six people who can't do that it's interesting like he gets. He gets understanding. It's a lot of credit for that for that. Look in that pop in like a key understood that like this bowler hat could be. you know. sort of like a Not a fedora was safari. Flops mind you but like this This bowler hat and gloves and like in angles. You can create these really kind of outlandish high contrast things. But i also know for for example. The gene kelly deliberately wore me. Maybe fred astaire but definitely gene kelly. I believe war slightly high water pants with white socks and black shoes. So that you get you know what i mean. The shape the outline the pop of like seeing his body. Yeah yeah that. I don't know why i know that. I just fired addressed like bob. Fosse though he he's very into cuffs he'll do like a big cough with a boot for pants into a big cuff rolled up with shirt. And he's you're smoking. Smoking smoking all the time bob. Fosse russia is great in that movie. I am big cover. Big big undercover. i'm become for. I bought some stuff. That's very flaps but the shirts like spf fifty shirts. Because i burn like a baby weight. A t shirt that has like bilton. Uv protection yes but not a t shirt. They're more like someone's called fishing shirt or a beat shirt. But like if you go. Google spf shirked. You'll see these. And i always get those wanna travel needed some new ones. And they come with those kind of indiana jones style. Like there's a loop to hold your sleeve up. Oh i love these like you're dis- that belongs in a museum kinda thing you know. Well this also. I think would make me look as if i worked out and this this. This is anybody who does that. Looks kind of tough. Yeah yeah exactly. And it's like yeah. I might be a douchebag. But i'm not afraid to wear this public especially like one of one of them with the with the hoods. That's a hallmark of the douchebag is not being afraid to wear in public. It's true it's true. I took you off. Your point didn't i. I don't boomer what it. What did you were talking about your fancy news..
Page To Stage
"fosse verdon" Discussed on Page To Stage
"Everyone for listening to this episode of page to stage to keep up with us you can find on instagram and facebook. Page to stage podcast. And if you're enjoying these conversations we would really appreciate it if you can take a couple minutes to rate and review us wherever you're listening to this podcast until next time. That's brian that's mary. We'll see you later bye. Hey this is mo- brady. And they just want to say for listening to broadway podcast network if you enjoyed this episode. I encourage you to listen to the ensemble list where we look into the lives and careers of the talented artists. Working in theatre ensemble. 's we go from the serious breaking down what it means to be a swing or an understudy to the very silly recapping episodes of tony telecasts. Fosse verdon and smash you can find episodes of the ensemble est wherever you listen to podcasts on apple podcasts. Spotify or at our home on broadway podcast network. Bp n. dot fm slash. The ensemble est as the curtain rises. Broadway's i ever behind the curtain soap opera with a star studded cast including alex brightman ashley. Park al-riyadah dubose. James monroe aigle heart. Michael yuri sarah styles. Andrew feldman lilius. White leslie margarita..
The Frame
Hostless Emmys Hit All-Time Ratings Low
"The Emmy awards were last night and for a second year in a row the ratings hit it and all time low but bad news for broadcast. TV was good news for streaming joining me to recap the ceremony is the chief TV critic at Variety Daniel Daniel Diario. Hi How are you. I'm good. I WanNa ask you this whole idea of the hostess award show. It feels like it's not going away anytime soon. If you were to grade the as on how they handled it. What kind of Marx would you give them. I would give the EMMYS a failing grade for how they handled filling in the gaps without got a host. I thought all of the interstitial bits all of the comedy all the attempts to explain to the audience what TV was fell totally flat. I will say one positive fringe benefit was that I noticed that fewer stars were being played off and the longer speeches were more impactful and more thoughtful every other aspect of the production. I thought didn't work and I missed the presence of a kind of guiding intelligence. Let's listen to the speeches that did get to run a little bit longer. This is Michelle Williams accepting her emmy for playing gwen Verdon and Fosse Verdon and so the next time a woman especially a woman of color because she stands to make fifty two cents on the dollar compared to her white. Male counterpart tells you what we need to order to do her job. Listen to her the. I think it's important to note Michelle. Williams has simone history with this. She went back for some re-shoots on the movie all the money in the world. She got paid a thousand thousanddollars. Mark Wahlberg got a million and a half so this is a personal issue for her but it feels like the really did discover something by not playing Michelle. How Williams off absolutely I think I mean I feel as though if you think back a couple of years when Nicole Kidman won for big little lies she ultimately we got to give a long speech about what she learned about domestic violence in the role but she was kind of fighting with the orchestra in a way that kind of sapped the dignity and meaning of the moment the fact that Williams was able to kind of speak in Kristalina way as composed she was carrying across these points that were personal to her relevant to the project relative to Hollywood. I thought it was really important on unfortunately with the viewership being what it was. I'm not sure how many people saw these great points but I I still think it was important. Let's talk about the viewership because it does appear that the ratings were an all time low for the Emmy Broadcast and it does. I feel like what was celebrated. Last night was not network television. I think Saturday night live with the only network show that picked up any emmy's in the primetime ceremony last tonight. Does it feel us if this is a network show that celebrating stuff that you would never see on any network. Yes it feels as though this is a network show that not only we celebrate stuff that doesn't air on network but stuff that never could I mean fleabag show. I greatly admired that was the night's big winner in comedy is so so far beyond I think what the great network watching still extant mill American audience is accustomed to that basically could come from another planet. I think what this means for. The EMMYS is an existential question going forward of what the show can do and where it should even be. Would this be better better served. If we put the Amazon Netflix would be better served. We put it on
Talking Tech
With rate hike, YouTube TV lost me
"Hiring is challenging, but there's one place you can go. We're hiring is simple. And smart that place is ZipRecruiter. Where growing businesses connect to qualified candidates. Try it for free at ZipRecruiter dot com slash tech talk. Ziprecruiter, the smartest way to hire. Youtube TV this week jacked up the rates by one hundred and twenty dollars yearly and lost me as a would-be customer it justified the higher rates by throwing extra channels that I have no interest in watching. I want Alicarte TV not bundles how about you. Let's dive in on today's talking tech. I'm Jefferson Graham with USA today. So YouTube TV is one of the cable alternative services that sprung up with a fabulous value proposition. It would offer just the stuff you want the broadcast channels some cable networks and access to sports along with no cable equipment to rant and unlimited cloud DVR at thirty five bucks. It was a great deal at fifty dollars. You can forget it. Because then you start thinking, why am I paying six hundred dollars a year to watch Discovery Channel a e the USA network all those channels that I never look at on cable. That's where cutting the cord comes in there is so. Much free programming on YouTube, and I could keep myself busy with Amazon prime which I happily pay four four my shipping. I have enough to entertain me for months now. I love the idea of true court cutting and being able to still watch the occasional cable channel at my discretion. I like CNN you might prefer e or you might wanna see a specific show like Fossey Verdon, which is currently on ethics or something like killing eve or better. Call Saul CNN is problematic Fosse Verdon. I can help you there. CNN like most cable channels will not allow you to watch unless you can prove that you're a cable or satellite subscriber. The CNN go app on TV boxes like Roku and apple TV are worthless. To you unless you've got the proof did over the CNN smartphone app. So great. So we'll stop watching CNN. So they're a show like Fossey Verdon actually can be yours. The channel ethics won't let you subscribe without cable. But for twenty bucks, you can buy the entire seasons. Worthy shows on I tunes Amazon or each episode for three dollars the same goes for other hot shows like killing EIB and better call Saul. So if you want Alicarte like, I do don't subscribe to the cable alternative services like YouTube TV, it will only encourage them to keep on raising your rates and turn into another cable TV like monopoly. That's my two cents. What's yours? I would love to hear from you on Twitter where I'm at Jefferson Graham, you've been listening to talking tech, please subscribe to the show wherever you listen to great online audio I'll be back tomorrow with another quick it from the world attack. Thanks for listening. Hiring used to be hard. It was and still is one of the biggest challenges businesses face before it meant dealing with endless stacks of resumes flipping through them. And hoping the perfect candidate would jump out at you and the manual review process wasn't any easier. But in today's high tech world hiring can be easy. And you only have to go to one place to get it done. Ziprecruiter dot com slash tech talk. With their powerful matching technology. Ziprecruiter scans thousands of resumes to find the most qualified contenders for your job. And actively invites them to apply. Ziprecruiter is so effective that four out of five employers who post on the site get a qualified candidate within the first day and right now talking tech listeners can try ZipRecruiter for free at this exclusive web address, ZipRecruiter dot com slash tech talk. That's ZipRecruiter dot com slash T. E C H T A L K, ZipRecruiter dot com slash tech talk. Ziprecruiter, the smartest way to hire.
The Frame
Through the eyes of Annie Leibovitz
"From the Mon broadcast center at KP. See see this is the frame, I'm John horn on today's show what the cancellation of Pearvel shows on Netflix might mean for the future of the TV business then from antiwar demonstrations to Arnold Schwarzenegger, riding horseback. Any Vits has photographed at all we walked through a new exhibit of her early work was not a good photojournaling. So I was going to have to tell more my story from my point of view and left journalism behind eventually turned to portraiture because it was a way of having real licensed to do what you wanted in a photograph and the country swing band asleep at the wheel is still rolling along fifty years after its founding all that coming up on the frame. With so many new players jumping into the streaming game including Disney, apple and Warner media. Twenty nineteen is likely to bring some big changes to the TV business. We called up Daniel Feinberg a TV critic for the Hollywood reporter to talk about what the future could look like to TV viewers. He's just finished covering two weeks of presentations from broadcast networks cable channels and streaming services at the television critics association meetings. We started with the news from earlier this week that net flicks. His canceling Jessica Jones and the punisher to marvel shows which not coincidentally are also Disney properties. There is no question that we are on the brink of some sort of key transition point. And regardless of what you choose to call it, whether you want to call it these streaming wars or the road to new cable, or whatever you wanted describe it as there are things that are changing that are going to dramatically reshape what the media landscape look. In five years in the same way that five years ago, it looked completely different. And I think that there's no question that the cancellation of the marvel shows on Netflix is a. Assign a gesture in a certain direction because these were very high profile shows for Netflix when they premiered and they were part of a big programming strategy. And now, suddenly all of the marvel properties are really part of aid Disney, plus or a Disney marvel streaming strategy, and so they don't fit with Netflix anymore. And I think that you're gonna see something with the tug of war over something like friends, I think that we are only at the beginning of what is going to be probably the biggest story in where television is going in the next year and a half probably. And that is basically that the people who create those shows used to see companies like Netflix as a source of ancillary revenue and now they see streaming services as direct competitors. So they're trying to pull their content back at their launching their own streaming services. Is that the bigger picture here? I think that is definitely the bigger picture. And all of the things that the Netflix and Hulu have kind of taken for granted as the foundation of their. Business model, you know, the for whatever we want to say about the apparently twelve billion dollars that Netflix last year poured into original programming acquired content is still a major portion of what people actually stream on Netflix. Whether it's whether it's friends, whether it's the office, whether it's all of the CW shows, and that's great for Netflix because it allows net flicks to have that kind of foundation, but it, but it's also a business that the people who actually own those programs want to be in. And so is Netflix original programming is it enough if suddenly the studio start taking away all of their prestige programs. Yeah. I don't know. Let's talk about a couple of new programs one that's on Netflix. It's called Russian doll and one on Hulu called Penn. Fifteen. These are shows that seem to be getting a lot of attention. Are they worth checking out? And how are they doing so far? I think they're absolutely were checking out, and I think we had absolutely no idea how either one of them is doing. Let's look says not put out a press release boasting that forty million people in some form or another have watched Russian doll. So I don't know all I know is that it's a really good show. It's a really smart show. It's a show that plays around with with format and with tone, and with style in very impressive ways. So Russian dolls. Definitely we're checking out, and I think Penn fifteen on Hulu is is a lot of fun to gimmick is the two co creators are basically playing junior high versions of themselves. Devil dis her last night at camp. How was even possible? I don't know what happened in the middle of her sleep. That's so unfair that happens to me surrounded by actual preteen and teen actors, and it's it's a really good show about the awkwardness of being a teenager. That's maybe aimed at older viewers who survived those years. I wanna talk about a couple of other shows that might be worth talking about FOX has a series called proven innocent pop has a series called flack and DC universe has a series called doom patrol or any of those shows are other things that you've seen jumping out in terms of midseason or early start shows that are coming out either. Now, or very soon one of the shows that if you've watched any BC in the past couple of weeks, and you're going to see as we move towards the Oscars this weekend that is getting a lot of buzz for ABC as whiskey cavalier whiskey cavalier. One of our best agents. I intelligence proven to be a huge asset to the bureau. You and your fiance recently parted ways. Yes, we did mutual most commercial, but I'm totally fine with it. We have the footage. How? It's a show that I would say succeeds at its goals, and that's something that I wouldn't necessarily say about say proven innocent, which is a very very run of the mill entirely forgettable legal procedural at the very least whiskey cavalier is pretty people Scott fully and learn Cohen or the stars are attractive and fun. And they're having a good time. It was shot in Europe. And it makes actual good use of European locations. It's got all of the depth of a very very shallow puddle. But on the other hand, it's fun. And it's the same with with DC universe is doomed patrol, which is kind of quirky kind of odd and of vast improvement over DC universe's, I live action show which was titans, which was all gloomy and glum and unpleasant. So there's something to be said for improvement one of the other things that happens at the as is that critics get sneak peeks, maybe it's some footage. Maybe it's a pilot of a show. That's not going to be on for a couple of months. Is there anything that you and your colleagues? Saw that might not be coming out immediately. But that you're really interested in seeing what more there is the series. Well, I definitely can't review. The one episode I've seen of FX Fosse Verdon, but I can tell you that that show which starts Sam Rockwell, and Michelle Williams is definitely going to be worth one that I'm looking forward to checking out. It's the story of Bob Fosse, Gwen Verdon. And so there's a lot of fifty sixty seventies cinematic, and Broadway and musical references and dancing and choreography. And I'm not gonna say anything more than I'm looking forward to seeing more episodes. Daniel Feinberg is a TV critic for the Hollywood reporter. He is also the president of the television critics association Daniel, thanks for your time and your insight. Thank you for having me. Coming up on the frame, any leave of its walks through an exhibit of her early work.