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Jobs Print Takes 50bp July Rate Cut Off Table: Dudley

P&L With Pimm Fox and Lisa Abramowicz

33:18 min | 1 year ago

Jobs Print Takes 50bp July Rate Cut Off Table: Dudley

"Welcome to the bloomberg pnl podcast i'm paul sweeney alongside my co host lisa abramowicz each day we bring you the most note worthy and useful interviews for you and your money whether you're at the grocery store or the trading floor find the bloomberg pnl podcast apple podcasts or wherever you listen to podcasts as well at bloomberg dot com well it is the jobs day today to win at twenty four thousand jobs were added to the usa economy in the month of june kind of break that down and gives a sense of what it means and what the fed how the fed might react we welcome bill dudley bill is a senior research scholar princeton university center for economic policies also former federal reserve bank of new york president there were just start off by listening to a national economic and i'm a council director larry cudlow he spoke with bloomberg television following this morning's job report let's take a listen now i do you have an inverted yield curve which i think is somewhat troublesome for the longer term but they break even on inflation the you you know the tip sprague evens the five year jonathan is one and a half percent and that's the cpr number so the pc deflated that the fed users would be about thirty basis points lesson that sarah want a quarter percent inflation nation which is way below the fed's target and what most people want an that's the reason i think they should take back their interest rate hike sue mr a couple of saying take back the december rate hike so not only what do you think well i think it's still up there what the feds gonna do it july from c meeting i mean this this report was stronger than expected and so i think what it does is it takes the fifty basis points evening idea off the table at least for the time being and then the question is do you do you stand pat wait for more information or do you cut twenty five basis points larry cudlow obviously making the case the fed should cut rates because inflation expectations are below two percent but the fed has also taken into into account the fact of the economy looks like it's continue nick wrote a decent place a payroll gains are stronger than what sustainable over the long run you know steady state is probably a hundred thousand a month to keep the unemployment rate steady so i think there's gonna be an interesting debate and obviously we have three more weeks of data before the meat so i think it's still very much up in there what it's gonna do it's a charming bill dudley a former new york fed president i'm so excited that we have each day one question that i keep coming back to is what is the feds ultimate call what is their ultimate objective in mandate what's your view on that well obviously they wanna keep see economic expansion going and there's risk on both sides a risk on one side is that if they pop pursue it too easy monetary policy see inflation rises and then after slamming the brakes and that generates recession so that's risk on one side risk on the other side is if they tighten monetary policy prematurely and that keeps inflation below their two percent long term objective a an economy tommy softens and the people at basically after the fed while you tighten monetary policy when inflation was below you're objective and so they're trying to balance those two risk do you think that it is wise for them to cut rates by at least fifty basis points by year end markets are currently playing well i mean obviously depends on how the economy evolves i don't see the economy is that week i see the economy is doing fine this seems to me like it's growing up about about trend or maybe a little bit above trend labor market in my mind still looks like it's it's continuing to gradually tightening so i guess if i were sitting there at their phone and see i'd be more on the patient camp a high priority and into the mini i would say let's let's have a statement said doesn't a closed door the future easing but let's let's wait and see and get some more information so build this of fed has said publicly that it is data dependent aside from labor statistics we think the feds really focusing on right now well i think they are focused on one what's the trajectory gdp growth in in in the state of labor market but to they're also very as as as larry cudlow is pointed out there also focused on inflation the fact is inflation has come in below expectations so the core personal consumption expenditure deflator slater is rising one point six percent on a year over year basis blow their two percent a goal and also as is larry pointed out a inflation expectations look like they've dropped a bit so that's another reason for the fed to consider using policy i mean there's basically three past easing one is growth is weaker than expected the second path easing as an inflation turns out to be lower than expected and the third is at risk and in economic outlook goes up because of perhaps uncertainty about trade policy so there's lots of past the get the fed tunisia monetary policy and i think that's really why easing is priced into the markets right now when you were a head of the new york fed one of the rules of that agency is to really monitor financial stability financial markets and i'm wondering what you see as these potential risks that are building with respect to inflated asset values if the fed does cut rates and given how much i how low rates have been kept for as long as they have well i think at the end of the day i mean they're they're gonna be focused mostly on the growth outlook and inflation outlook but they do have to be aware of the fact that there's not much evidence right now that monetary policies tight i mean if you look at financial conditions financial conditions to seem actually quite supporter for growth so's the strongest argument the hold off frankly is that policy monetary policies not holding back usa commie any measurable agree that i could see so bill chairman powell has suggested that the fed might in its quantitative tightening i think that's a good idea well they've already said that that they're gonna bring that to the end at the end of september a there's been some speculation though that if they cut rates in the july mean they might also move the ending of their balance sheet up to to to to to that but that point in time i personally think they should just keep the balance sheet policy as it is today a were gonna continue to run a securities until september and then and bring that to quote i mean basically tying the short term rate decision to the balance sheet decision i think is inappropriate right now because the balance sheet decision is not motivated by you know what the feds trying to do in terms of the stance of monetary policy it's motivated by how much reserves the bat the fed thinks should be in the banking system consistent with efficient execution a monetary monetary policy and that's why they decided that they were gonna ended in september so i think they just should stick to that decision so you said the monetary policy is not holding back economy that is the message when you look at these easy financial conditions what would you rate cut accomplish and i think the rate would be you know basically would be insurance a it'd be basically saying look were unhappy with some of uncertainty about the global growth outlook and also it'd be a way of saying that were unhappy happy with inflation being blower two percent of objective so i don't think that you know fundamentally it wouldn't matter that much today economy if the fed cut twenty five basis points you're damn cut twenty five basis points but be aware of a exhibiting some unhappiness with this i think inflation trajectory so build a precedent trump is out with some tweets this morning on the jobs number and some other topics but that one of the tweets says he trump says he a fed quote doesn't know what they're doing in quote tweets tweets like that what extent do you think they impact members of the fed end or policy well i think that the fed's been doing a pretty good job anymore and i'll wrap were basically now have the longest economic expansion and you're history and i think a while the president's blue wants so take most of the credit for that i think the fed some some credit as well i think that basically the trump's pressure on the fed really actually probably is counterproductive in the sense that the fed doesn't wanna do something that is seen as caving into presidential pressure they wanna be seen is doing something that's appropriate given the economic outlook so anything if anything i think this makes the fed a little bit more stubborn in terms of a moving a interest rates president trump has been seeking i and he is continue to speak we'll bring you the headlines as they come out saying that the fed cutting rates would healthy economy and he's very happy about the jobs numbers a still with us bill dudley who is a former new york fed president you know one interesting sort of outcome of this strong jobs report has been stronger dollar with the dollar surging against peers today this has also been concerned if president trump has tweeted about the fact he would like to see it weaker talked about currency manipulation would it be better to the uss economy if the dollar weaker this mind i don't i don't understand the argument a were basically at full employment a a communist doing fine it's growing at an above trend pays why would i want the currency it'd be weaker a they're all that we do is reduce a u s households purchasing power of of foreign goods and services a you know i i don't understand why a weaker currency is something that you want when you're operating economy pretty close to full employment i understand a weaker currency of the economy is very weak and you're having trouble getting traction coming out of a recession but at the time when the economy is pretty close to full employment i don't understand why you want a weaker currency at that point so but we've had economist and fund managers a comment over the last several months that a they think eight recession by mid twenty twenty is they possibility maybe a likelihood what your thoughts their economic expansions expansions don't die of old age they usually die because either the there either there's inflation problem and the federal reserve's responser that by tightening monetary policy making monetary policy tight or there's a big of a shock to the economy that the fed just can't react quickly enough to offset a there's not enough inflation the fed respond aggressively tighten monetary policy so i think the risk of the risk of recession from that sources very very low obviously there is a risk of a shock coming from the rest of the world economy but the you know the the biggest one that i this trade policy if trade policy if more confusion is created about what usa trade policy is and that creates uncertainty about how businesses should invest where they should invest how they should orient their supply chains a that's part of the biggest risk caught right now what happens in terms of your straight both bill dudley thank you so much for being with us today bill dudley former new york fed president and senior researcher princeton university center for economic policy studies also a contributor to bloomberg opinion commenting on today's jobs report well it is jobs day today and what a day it is usa economy added two hundred and twenty four thousand jobs in the month june in a sense of what that means videos economy instead policy going forty welcome our next guest jim bianco jim is president and founder of bianco research jim thanks so much for joining us just give us your first quick take on what you think these jobs report today a means for the federal reserve a i think it means the federal reserve is now closer to making a mistake by not cutting rates at d a july meeting and they're gonna probably push this off i think the markets have been telling us that the funds rate has been too high the fed went too far last year one fund statistic for you there's forty trillion dollars worth of sovereign develop market debt in the world in ninety four percent of it has a yield of less than the funds rate right now the funds rate is becoming an outlier is one of the highest interest rates in the world it needs to come down the fed is gonna look at the strong payroll number thinking they don't have to do that and i think what you're seeing in the markets his reaction but they may may make a mistake by not cutting rates so jim i know that you you're voice in this is particularly important because the white house actually considered you for a one of these open positions on the feds board board you were interviewed for that can you just talk a little bit about what it was like interviewing with them what were their questions to you a it was a new amazing experience be able to do something like that and i'm honored that they gave me the opportunity to do a day just asked me about fed policy they asked me about my views of the world a they interviewed me because i'm a bit different than their typical canada because a the fed works through the financial channel and they considered the idea of having somebody from a financial markets background as opposed to a traditional phd background as a as a candidate and i was one of the few if i don't know maybe the only one that was chosen with that kind of kept what's that kind of background and so it was a it was a very interesting weld 'em ranging interview of a lot of different subject mainly about fed policy and they economy so jim bay based upon that interview process what do you think the fed is is or what do you think the administration is looking for a in the fed going forward a i think you know if you listen to larry cudlow or if you listen to any other administration officials that they do believe that if the phillips curve this idea that inflation flation an employment employment or growth are somehow linked in a predictable manner has been broken down that you could see again today in the payroll report two hundred and twenty four thousand jobs created in there was no uptick in wage growth this is just basically thrown all of the fed models and all of economic miles forget the fed all the economic models you know on the year because this wasn't supposed to happen meaning when you have the economy growing this fast and having unemployment this loafer this long a period of time to really shown no major worries about wage inflation let alone overall inflation i think that's been a big theme of there's it's been a big theme of mine in a number of other people as well to that we are in a different type of inflation world and we don't need to have interest rates as high as we did say in previous cycles one the relationship between unemployment and inflation what's different so jim when we asked about the jobs report and paul asked you said i it just sort of confirms that the fed made a mistake in december and that they should keep rates lower than where they are currently in reverse mistaken december and accommodate more and i'm trying to figure out what's the goal of the fed here i mean how much will that actually boost be real economy for the federal reserve to cut rates by seventy five basis points some traders are down predicting yeah you know a lot of people ask that question a lot you know that in vietnam gumption there is at a nobody cares about the level of interest rates that if you were to lower interest rates that that would not be any what stimulus towards mortgages and the housing market or torch autos and auto loans it you know wall street doesn't do nobody nobody on wall street bothers with interest rates they're not at all interested in whether or not they move up or down of course this is ridiculous it is an important factor in the economy and i do think that if nothing else what we're doing is correcting imbalanced it the rates are too high and then it may not necessarily mean they were trying to stimulate the economy by lowering them but more along the lines of work trying to stop hurting the economy by keeping a more they are now be inverted yield curve that is eight signal that is that the yield on the ten year note is lower than the yield on the three month bill that is a signal that rates are too high end that if we leave that in place for month after month and that would happen if we didn't cut rates that cumulative effect could really retard they economy and so i think the debt needs to be respected and now what were probably doing here now is is injecting stimulus but removing restrictive business i know a lot of people have a hard time with this thinking how could two and a half percent interest rates be restrictive because they've got this long history in i'll remind them it's one of the highest develop world rakes in the world everybody else's lower end there's twelve trillion dollars almost thirteen of negative interest rates we are an outlier and that is why it is restrictive 'cause rich interest rates should be viewed in context with all the other interest rates jim bianco always a wonderful thing having you on the show thank you so much of responding at your post july fourth friday with us jim bianco president and founder of bianco research also someone who is interviewed a forty pound open at fed position by the current white house when it comes to georgia bank the question is how far will its planned cuts go not whether there will be cuts and we're will those cosby most focused joining us now to talk about that stephen errands german banks reporter for bloomberg news joining us from frankfurt stephen i wanna just talk about the time line we've been talking about georgia bank for awhile are we getting closer to the bank actually announcing some sort of restructuring plan that beacon then view as fact absolutely were moving moving much closer andy these supervisory board meeting that is likely to adopt the plan will take place on sunday we've been told back hasn't officially confirmed us but it's very likely they happen and now well then trigger a on the german securities law will trigger hey hey obligation to inform the markets so expect something on sunday and in fact pdd announcement has already done with the bank saying today that investment banking had garth richie is leaving the banks less the first instance of the whole plan now moving into the action so stephen how expansive do you expect 'em thee restructuring to be it's going to be big about possibly or even probably the biggest restructuring of dutch bank and investment banking division particularly in in decades a b the job cuts could reach up to twenty thousand proudly stretched out over several years but still it's a very large number of it's it would be more than a fifth of the current workforce see cuts off of as much hit b u s again it's not clear over what timeline and just how much but it's clear that the face of youth operations will will fundamentally change there has and some of the some speculation including by a as published and bloomberg news that deutsche bank will get out of equities trading sales research it cetera in the united states also a that potentially could largely just neutered investment bank we did see investment banking chief of deutsche bank leaving the bank today or at least announcing that he is going to be departing what will be restructured deutsche bank look like it's going to be much more focused on companies large companies european large companies than it has been an shifting away from eight previous focused on institutional investors so the trading components for those investors trading equities he's trading fixed income will be lower especially over time in parts that that cater to be capital markets needs and then they general banking needs a corporate such as trade finance cash management those business will well like her grow steve you expect deutsche bank in any way shape or form to a admit that they have i guess given up their aspirations to be truly global investment bank here i mean they're not gonna say it like that right they're gonna they're gonna highlight just out there the continued have a global footprint i'm not sure they're gonna completely shut her any any in the outpost any country is completely they probably as you said they may shut up completely us equities but it's not clear whether any countries will completely be dissolved the presence there so they will continue to how did the global presence but yes they will admit the there you're you're focused banks have been admitting this athlete for awhile and a they're not gonna claim anymore the dickens to compete with thebig usa investment banks that now in the trading area specially have a much bigger presence butcher bank bancshares today up three point eight percent i'm looking at the eighty hours in the united states i'm wondering whether there's any discussion still about a possible merger i know that commerzbank and db were looking at a potential tie up that fell through is that basically off the table that concept definitely for now this restructuring now will is designed to happen without any big merger they're still looking to grow their asset management business gw f they're looking for a takeover there but the bank itself is not currently looking anything they were previously talk with commerzbank as you said they may have even have some brief informal talks with wbf but for his longest the share price is slow as it is now that's not something that will happen steve you expect the torture bank to address the home market germany a the concerns in it's tremendously over bank a kind of what is the strategy to try to shore up the profitability of their core market job cuts in cost cuts again a in a nutshell they a earning money in the german retail market extremely difficult interest rates set by the central bank is are extremely low and so margins a low end competitor competition is extra it'd be tough so the only way you could actually boost profitability is by taking out costs and they have said they continue to aim cutting me workforce in the german retail and commercial clients business by about two thousand a year that's gonna continue an a and so we'll see if that at some point well ashley yelled at profitability that they think is sufficient steve burns thank you so much steve is a german banks reporter at bloomberg based in frankfurt focusing on deutsche bank which i'm not sure if you notice about me but i am quite the grill master you could just about anything on the grill in a suit and tie off oftentimes it disclosure paul sweeney has gone full cash today cashing were talking full cash paul sweeney style which is basically is but damage the catch up an internet color shirt but not a see see how that way so i mean i think i cooked just about anything there is the cook on a grill but this bloomberg businessweek they're out with a story today that is making me rethink my strategy kate crater a kate is de food editor for bloomberg pursuits okay thanks so much for joining us this articles it just fantastic it's basically what not to grill a on a grill everything which is almost everything but let's with the most obvious talked me about the hamburger thing i know yeah this caused some controversy at my i'm like out this weekend yesterday because we talked to a bunch of staffs and they said actually if you want the best burger you shouldn't put it on the grill because you're losing like bible stat and juices is just dripping into the fire ants so we are asking people to step away from the grill with burger patties this is ridiculous i'm sorry okay kayla come on you're basically saying people you know i think you could grilled but you you kinda you kinda sixteen get it so just stop i mean give me a i mean is it just a little taste or or what have you noticed that smell taste i mean of course this is america and people can do what they want and they can grow whatever they want but we did it come it absolutely is kind of funny to think like chefs watch immature cooks 'em at the grill maybe like paul and they're like oh you're doing that wrong he just got right at me like i'm amateur right okay so tell us about this article you guys you went out in you talk to interviewed chefs kind of all over the place about different types of food right exactly right yet high grilling season and so you know it really is fun like everybody it's the it's high grilling season and food tastes delicious on the grill but in fact if you want things to be perfect some of some things really shouldn't be on shouldn't be cooked on the grill so something like burgers of course i'm not sure how many people we really are gonna dissuade from from cutting patties on the grill but something like you see them in restaurants anti restaurants like real caesar salad and it turns out the lettuce is actually are not very good on the grill because they're so full of water but they will wealth and burn as you cook them so you really shouldn't and likewise another chef from washington dc doesn't like to grow fruit because even though it's sometimes good option if you grow something like peaches they disintegrate on the grill and they also flavor you're grill and they pick up any flavors there so if you just cook some fish then you're peaches are gonna tastes like fish that concept that so i i was reading this this article and i love that you did it it got me really heated with a couple of the same burgers really was just like you know you might as well throw something at the screen even lettuce i mean okay whatever you let people do what they wanna do there were some good points so and i will say the whole concept of peeled shrimp on a grill it does try them out and they were saying that there is a way to do it so then it won't try them out right yeah no exactly if you have cell on trend if you buy shrimp that are you know the art pre peeled than they are marvelous on the grill that's really good it's when you peel them because they're really delicate and they're gonna burn the rather gonna burn up cook well depending on how high heat is and we actually looked at this a couple of years ago to and another thing if people really shouldn't grille is just kebab with next you know you see them they look really me honoring come on what do you do come in a in a way largo i'm gonna on a boiler but the thing that you can do is put the same things on so you could put like all you're meet on one skewer and then you could put things like cherry tomatoes on another but when you mix democracy see onions i don't know if you've ever had some but it's really hard to get i mean the cook in a way that you wanna eat them at the next is something that cooks quickly like shrimp so just divided just you just make like neat little piles have each have a dedicated kebab and then when you are good to go all right i'm learning something i'm learning something so let's let's go the i mean the one thing that made sense mia sonia article a bacon a is that just kind of the gold fire hazard things i think most you know sets a blow my own you're down right exactly yeah some fireworks those un also uncooked prosecutors so a lot of people cook something like kill basa which is already cut and that's fine like totally grills that glow that was friday happy but if you have if you have there's a lot of these are two mil uncooked sausages such is that you see you know links and links to them attached or thick cut bacon and that is like a fire hazard as you were saying you know you start a fire with all the fat in there and it also won't cook well you know because propaganda bernie outside while it's still ron inside and then you can eat it so you really shouldn't and plots like if that's in the sausage and if the casing it connects blowed out so there you go all right well k you said that this caused a lot of controversy at the cookout that you had yesterday where for people most jazz dover most ignited burger i would say people were most ignited over the burgers they really were like you can't tell me top chefs can't tell me how to cook my burgers but you know actually there were people people i couldn't believe i had any support here but my friend who'd worked as fry cook for a while it beach club and he was like it's true if i'm cooking burgers for people who are standing there i will cook it on the grill but if i'm cutting my own burger including on a flat top so i had some backup so i see in use spoke to a new owner of lots and lots of latin grand central terminal 'em in new york you try yeah they said do tortillas that's something i never even thought about cooking i think when people are making tacos 'cause it's a fun thing to do you know people are definitely expanding their repertoire is on the grill and you see people may be cooking chicken that they're gonna put you know in to make tacos west and that's really fun but and so to facilitate it some people will throw tortillas on the grill and this guy is clearly a purist this guy julian and he's like no don't do it just it's better to wrapped in foil or you couldn't you couldn't keep him on again if you need demonic lancia okay or take a step back i do have to say as a mother of two boys and who has understood b a b importance of time these kind of opening themselves up to sort of criticism that they're not really facing reality i made it so easy to throw things on a grill and fast and convenient the idea of saying well you know it's not perfect because maybe leads lately wilted is absolutely ridiculous where people who are trying to serve a lot of people or who have small children i mean is there cabinet hearing if this is just their purchase personal preferences they basically saying she then if you do it this way no i think i think all of them will allow i mean i think you'd be hard pressed to find except who is not cooked at burger drawn a grill so i'm not sure any of them this is like the hell they're gonna die on but but they're saying if you want see ultimate burger like the best burger it really is good cooked on a flat happy then you develop that crust like it gets that so let's just charge cross karma lies and you're not losing like juices and fat to the fire but i can guarantee you that i'm sure they have all cubs burgers on the grill and i'm sure in the future you will be able to bust them all cooking burgers on the grill so so kate are people in new reporting are you finding that people were you know ruling as much or more than they used to you know people love and then people are grilling year round now that's the thing you can buy sell many different kinds of grills whether you have like a small city apartment or a huge backyard on there's so many different grocer being dealt now to to all kinds of lifestyles and white people lead so people love to grill and they other thing that's cool is you can grill over all kinds of things you know you see the people bowl were which is maybe talk about what but now they talk about a specific kind of woods if they wanna cook on people really geeking out on it and it's kind of fantastic so i cade if you are going to a barbecue at someone's house what should you bring to the barbecue as guest that's what i think i always think it's good to bring a bottle of rose eight because it's the drink of the summer you know andy young spending on how to fight about what people are gonna grill on you you know whether or not you should be grilling those burger patties by on what barbecues you go to one more people drink a lot of her say i am but i think i think that's always a good thing i think bringing dessert is good you confined so many great you know packaged cookies and they come in like these really cool tens or you know what else is there you know what actually i brought to a party together day 'cause it's like such prime season is strawberries so no elliott cookies but if you can find the fruit that's in season there's so many farmers markets now and if you get just like a really nice little basket of something there's nothing better than that take greater thank you so much kate is food editor if you couldn't tell for bloomberg pursuits and just say fantastic article in the bloomberg businessweek magazine it's essentially the take away is kind of what not to grill and why in this in the white comes from some famous chefs to kind of you know they kind of know what they're doing thanks for listening to the bloomberg pnl podcast

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Only we'll see because remember the first democratic debates there were no hard questions from NBC or CNN for the Democrats Not Know Megan Kelly moments and by the way that Megan Kelly Donald Trump debate thing I get into it very heavily in the United States the trump the upcoming book so anyway. Lindsay Davis is her name. ABC News correspondent. I don't know her so they're the moderators and then they a will be quizzing the ten Democrats who were in the debate now. I don't expect many any hard questions. I don't but if I'm wrong I will tell you tomorrow a special edition of the no Spin News tomorrow a special debate edition why it so. I'm working an extra day for you now right before the debate. Elizabeth Warren says you know what I'm going to give everybody on social security every American social security an extra two hundred bucks a month in benefits of on the lack a a another government entitlement coming out and I know everybody's painted social security so you don't have to yell at me but Warren's riot I mean running up thirty forty trillion dollars in spending as you have to seize private property and she what she actually would remain calm the con- pose on a Website Elizabeth Warren is unbelievable private property your assets even after after you pay taxes on your salary stocks and bonds whatever maybe shouldn't believe won't belong to you then the government's property could take govern anytime what's what's according to her that socialism okay so y just in time for the debate. November two hundred bucks a month for all all social security recipients and social security's going bankrupt because of government mismanagement so some has to be done some day about that. I'm going to tell you all about what we're GONNA do tonight with the tweeting on the debate is going to be fun. I WanNa make it fun versus announcement yeah you have been hearing about gold all over the news prices. Keep going up. Experts are warning. A recession is here as time to prepare recent analysts. This week says he sees gold going up hundreds of dollars per ounce to hit seventeen hundred. That's why I recommend you check out. The Hartford gold all grew to learn more to get you started. The Hartford Goal Group will give you a free silver coin. If you're watching the news you can get the free coin from the Hartford Cold Group no purchase necessary. All you have to do is call eight seven seven four four. Go L. D. kgo eight seven seven four four four goal. Please call today okay so do little now. This is from Peter Azzaro Bayonne New Jersey Bill. You stated so far. President trump has not done a good job in defining Elizabeth Warren. I would say that might be the strategy. We've seen Bernie Sanders and unlikely he he has much upside true. Realistically the Race Between Biden and Warren of the Warren is much better option for trump if she wins so so it would be in trump's best interest to hold off firing at Warren now hoping she wins the nomination. I understand what you're saying. Peter but my point is this instead of of tweeting grievances against John Bolton or CNN or women may be president trump should use the power that he has to communicate with you and me to start defining the danger that not only was with Lauren but the whole whole far left socialist movement presents the country as I did in the column on much better served if he starts to do that now to heighten awareness of Dean showing Ford Bowie Maryland Bill. I disagree with you on. Vp Biden defeating president trump dean. I didn't and say he was going to defeat president trump. I said he could it's possible in my opinion the others it's not possible but he could. I didn't say he would there's a big difference with the C and w bite appears to be the choice razer dams just as Romney was Republicans twelve months before the election showed Romney beating President Obama and we know how it ended OK okay so the final photo today. I'll be tweeting during the democratic debate. An important debate for the country is going to run against Donald Trump at Bill O'Reilly Ali. I'm going to go boom boom boom and the tweets you're GONNA be right between is alright. Boom boom boom probably do one every five minutes. Just keep you up today if you WANNA WANNA see. NFL game or something like that or do something else tweeden. You'll know what's going on tomorrow. Special show special. Oh no Spin News on Friday a rundown what happened all right and I hope to see them.

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In Blow to U.S. the Philippines Chooses Chinese Technology

WSJ What's News

13:31 min | 1 year ago

In Blow to U.S. the Philippines Chooses Chinese Technology

"Here the extraordinary secrets of how to thrive in disrupted world the old rules of management and already correct anymore so what works making wise heavy to the future will I am and Omar Bosh subscribe. Wherever you get your podcasts facebook's new crypto currency libra faces bipartisan skepticism on Capitol Hill the Treasury Department has expressed very serious concerns that libra could be misused by money launderers and terrorist financiers approach and a close American ally chooses China for its telecom network cheapest technology? The Philippines Duffin have a ton of resources class net flicks removes a controversial suicide seen from its teen drama thirteen reasons why this is what's news from the Wall Street Journal on Kim Gittleson. Let's get started now before we get into her main story of the morning. Why a close U._S.? Ally the Philippines has decided cited to defy American wishes and choose Chinese firms to expand its telecom network. Here's what you missed facebook executive. David Marcus is set to testify in front of Congress today about the company's plans for its cryptocurrency libra already the the effort is facing bipartisan resistance yesterday Treasury Secretary Steve Mnuchin said the creation of libra could raise national security concerns treasury has been very clear to facebook bitcoin users and other providers of digital financial services that they must implement the same anti money laundering encountering financing of terrorism safeguards as traditional financial institutions are overriding goal was to maintain the integrity of our financial system in protected from abuse separately Democratic Representative maxine waters drafted legislation that would block facebook and other social media companies from operating in the world of banking and digital assets Mr Marcus in prepared testimony plans to say that facebook and its partners can devise novel and effective ways to combat money laundering and terrorism financing because of their quote considerable technical expertise he also plans to say that facebook won't launch the aucoin until the company has addressed regulatory concerns. I'm about to tell you the story of my life more specifically why my life ended and that's the trailer for the popular Netflix teen drama thirteen reasons why the company said it had cut a controversial suicide seen from the shows first season in a tweet Netflix said it had edited the scene based on the advice of medical experts there had been a debate about whether the show increased the risk of teen suicide after a study funded by the National Institutes of health found that the suicide rate among people tend to seventeen years old went up by nearly a third in April of twenty seventeen. That's the month after the show launched on net flex looks at the time net flicks said it worked hard to ensure that it handled the sensitive issue responsibly now our main story this. It's morning the Philippines has long been close American ally but now the country is ignoring the advice of U._S.. Officials by choosing to bind its telecommunications future Chinese firms. It's a complicated subject that tells you a lot about what's happening being in the global battle between the U._S.. China when it comes to the next generation five G. Technology so to find out more I rang up our Southeast Asia bureau cheap knee Harka Madonna so new Harka walk me through what's happening. So what we're talking about is communications. The Philippines is looking to overhaul its telecommunications networks because phone Internet services need to be prepared for the future they already lacked behind hi and in terms of reliability and access since they want to catch up but then they're also seeing new wave of technology coming in with five g <hes> and so what's happening now is a period of overhaul <hes> with Chinese technology allergy the existing networks already heavily rely on while we have relationships with hallway and going forward for their five G. Roots are working with hallway to make that happen <hes> and then and simultaneously. There's a push to have a new network operator altogether a new telecom carrier in the company. That's finally won. The bid is partially owned by China Telecom which is a state owned Chinese telecommunications company <hes> and because it's local partners don't have very much telecom experience <hes> or any telecom experience China Telecom is going to largely run the telecommunications his technical operations and so those two things put together has contributed to this kind of dominant position <hes> for China in the Philippines now. Why isn't the Philippines scared for lack of a better worried about Chinese spying? That's been a persistent concern for the U._S.. Government so across the board when I was reporting in the Philippians there were two or three arguments that were made to me in response to that question primarily they see the U._S. position as motivated by geopolitical concerns and a desire to hold China back as China grows and competes with the United States and threatens U._S. supremacy so they they feel like the U._S.. Motivations On't rooted insecurity concerns but are rooted in trying to take China down so that's the first thing the second argument that I've heard is that they believe everyone spies that the technology ease does been yes. I mean this. Let's just kind of fatalism about that that the Americans listening and the Russians listening I and the Chinese listening everyone listening and whether the in the network outside of the network if they need something they gonna find a way to get it and so the locking China out of the telecom space. He's through. Some kind of band is going to solve that problem so there's yeah there's skepticism of a U._S.. Position and then there's you know the the market argument. This is the cheapest technology. The Philippians doesn't in have a ton of resources to throw at these kinds of overhauls. They want to be <hes> in a position where they can do a law with less and Chinese technology allows them to do that. So what does this mean for U._S.. Filipino relations it definitely adds a strain to relationship. That's already a bit under pressure in the last few years so president Rodrigo details government his already pulled back a little bit from the relationship and and become much closer to China in terms of investment <hes> in terms of just communications in the overall strategic relationship and so this adds a further stream because the U._S. has been seeing that its ability to share information to share intelligence to operate environments where while we technology is proximate will be curtailed <hes> we'll be constricted and so this the to Kinda blows here. One is the question of how much the U._S. will act on that in to what extent it will curtail information sharing and then the general message that the sense that this is a rejection of the U._S.. USC Position and the message is clear that the Philippines is going to chart. It's on course regardless of what American officials tell them you can find all of our coverage of five G. Technology and the ongoing tensions between the U._S. and China up on W._S._J.. Dot Com capital one knows life doesn't alert you about your credit card. That's why they've created E-e-e-e-no the capital one assistant that catches things that might look wrong with your credit cards N._O.. Catches over tipping duplicate charges or potential fraud and then sends an alert sheer phone and helps you fix it. It's another way capital. One is watching after your money when we're not capital one. What's in your wallet? SEE CAPITAL ONE DOT com offer details on to markets. We mentioned the yesterday that China's economy grew at its slowest pace since nineteen ninety two that slowdown has raised expectations among investors that the government it will have to do more to stimulate the economy from Hong Kong our Asia Finance Editor Quentin web breaks down. What's at stake what's at stake for China at the moment is that desperate to maintain growth within that sort of target range of six two six point five percent that in one great to slay too much because that could imperil social stability at the same time that didn't want to unleash the kind of flood of stimulus than they did during the global financial crisis again because that is already a very high level? There's something like forty trillion dollars of debt rattling around the system already that didn't want to inflate new asset price bubbles that didn't want people who are already over leveraged to borrow even more so any stimulus has to be targeted enough to have. have an effect without inflating overall debt too much but there has to be bored enough to make sure that great stays on course said this sort of trying to walk tight rope with those two considerations and now wow the skied. Here's what to look forward to later today. The Detroit car companies officially kicked off contract talks this week with United Auto Workers Union from Detroit Neurontin has more on what we can expect so the macro issue here is bringing down labor costs anyway possible huge labor costs were a driver of the near collapse of the U._S.. Automakers in the recession and we're starting to see those costs creep back towards pre-recession session levels what sorts of costs well yeah so there's something called the all in labor costs that includes wages and benefits and so right now for G._M.. That sixty three dollars an hour for Ford that's sixty one dollars an hour and for Fiat Chrysler that is fifty five dollars an hour and that's the key issue because those all in labor costs are much higher for U._S.. Car companies than for their foreign competitors a lot of what we're doing here when we talk about Labor labor costs is a benchmarking that with the foreign automakers on average those automakers like Toyota Honda who build in the U._S. are spending fifty dollars an hour so that's what they talk about when they say that they need to be competitive they need to get those labor costs back down to what their competitors were at which is actually what the government asked of them in the bankruptcies in two thousand nine. We'll have the latest on those negotiations up on our website throughout the week automatic the team seconds from this time. Finally you may recognize that Tape Today as the fiftieth anniversary of the liftoff of the Apollo Eleven Moon mission that was what it was like like in the control room on that day. If you like me have spent a lot of time looking at images from this awe inspiring time in history you might have noticed something the loan woman in those control room photos during the Apollo eleven mission. My role was that launched control Joanne Morgan was the first female launched controller she said getting to the room on that historic. Day wasn't easy if you're the loan woman in the room are your amongst small percentage of women in an organization the number one thing is do your job get your work done now. Retired Joanne says she hopes there won't be any more photos like hers alone woman in a Sea of men. There's a lot of progress Chris we can continue to make and I hope that young women will take a look you know and and not be afraid I mean you know I'm an ordinary woman and I just happened to like solving problems that you know start with puzzles and then do the math and then learn equations and then Kwan Radic Equations and Calculus and just learned to do it and you you'd be surprised at at where you can go and how much fun I look back on my career and I think I never for head of the all day at work you can find our full coverage of the Fiftieth Anniversary of the moon landing up on our website. We've got stories on the Hidden Software Heroes Your memories of the day and a look at the new race to the moon have a read and let us know what you.

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The O'Reilly Update, September 26, 2019

Bill O'Reilly's Free Podcast

13:00 min | 1 year ago

The O'Reilly Update, September 26, 2019

"O'reilly here Thursday September Twenty Six two thousand nineteen. You're listening to the early update. Here's what's happening thing across our nation. The White House defends President Trump's phone call the leader of Ukraine. Mr Trump's director of national intelligence rebukes the Washington in in post a majority of House Democrats now back impeachment. Iran says Israel is arming Isis fighters in the Middle East. Barbara Walters enters turns ninety also ahead. Do you want the federal government to pay your bills but I the White House defending president trump's private have a phone call with the leader of Ukraine. The unredacted conversation lasts approximately thirty three minutes with Mr Trump asking for an investigation and into the activities then Vice President Biden in Ukraine. Democrats say that's terrible. Republicans believe the President President did nothing wrong and thus the controversy rages President Trump's director of national intelligence directly rebukes to Washington Post. The newspaper newspaper reported that Joseph Maguire who was testifying on capitol. Hill today threatened to resign if the White House blocked him from speaking with lawmakers Maguire telling reporters quote. I have never quit anything in my life and I'm not going to start now. A majority of Democrats in the House now support impeachment proceedings against since President Trump two hundred twenty lawmakers backing some form of inquiry against Mr Trump over his dealings with Ukraine just last week back less than half of congressional. Democrats including Speaker Nancy Pelosi supported impeachment Iran accusing Israel of arming isis fighters across the Middle East President Ruhani New York City says the Jewish state provides equipment and treats Islamic terrorists at Israeli hospitals in Tel Aviv in Jerusalem Israel of course denies that which does not seem very feasible does a very happy birthday to legendary Kandara TV icon Barbara Walters known as the First Lady of Broadcast Journalism Ms Walters began in the male-dominated newsroom so the nineteen sixties she should we go on to host a handful of TV programs including today twenty twenty. ABC News and she created the view which is lost cost without her coming next my message of the day which is a little complicated. The Democrats Mostly Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren are promising to pay most of your bills. Do you want that. Should that be what the government does. I'll get into it in the message of the day coming up. After these messages you have been hearing about gold all over the news news and prices keep going up. Experts are warning that recession might appear and it's time to prepare a recent analyst. This week says he sees gold going up hundreds of dollars per ounce to hit seventeen hundred bucks. That's why I recommend that you contact the American. Hartford gold grew to learn more to get you started. The American Hartford Gold Group Will Gift Free Silver Coin to all my radio listeners. If you're listening listening right now you can get this free coin from the American Hartford Gold Group no purchase necessary. All you have to do is call eight seven seven four four four gold. Go L. Eagle eight seven seven four four four go L. D. Gold. Give them a call today to claim your free coin available for for a limited time only eight seven seven four four four four six five three. That's eight seven seven four four four four six five three call now time out for the update message of the day while Joe Biden and Donald trump slug it out over Ukraine Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren earn are sitting on the sidelines gloating. It is to their advantage. If both men Biden and trump are damaged. Senator Senator Sanders continues to propose giving away pretty much everything a few days ago. Bernie said hey the government should pay. Hey for all your medical debt. Everybody's medical debt should now be picked up by the government hooray also so as you may know Bernie Sanders as released a two point five trillion dollar plan to guarantee everybody. Nice housing and Saving Sanders Said said the plan would quote guarantee every American regardless of income a fundamental right to a safe decent accessible and affordable home and would be paid for by a wealth tax on the top one tenth of one percent of income earners the be heirs Sanders Tout's that ninety nine point nine percent of Americans will not see their taxes go up because of his giveaways but actually Bernie Sanders is wants to seize the assets of any wealthy person in the USA Santa's plan also seeks to invest one and a half trillion dollars over or ten years and the National Affordable Housing Trust Fund it would also invest another four hundred billion to build two million mixed fixed income social housing unit so Bernie's getting into the real estate business. Bernie Sanders says he would create an office within the Department of Housing and Urban Development to strengthen rent control antenna protections thereby pretty much putting private landlords out of business because Bernie wants to enact a CAP APP on annual rent increases at no more than three percent Santa's would also established anti discrimination protections for those receiving giving assistance against their landlords so in addition to taking over the medical care industry. Bernie Sanders wants to take over the housing and real estate industry now if you add the new housing deal to what Burns already said it becomes astronaut Medicare for all forty trillion dollars per neil spend on that green new deal sixteen trillion free college tuition to wish it two point two trillion free housing two point five trillion yen and sixty five trillion dollars in there and growing plus Bernie Sanders supports free daycare family leave and on and on an odd not even guarantee jobs and guaranteed income there are three hundred and thirty million Americans and Bernie wants to pay most of their bills of course his vision would bankrupt the economy and lead to the government pretty much running commerce that socialism remember. Fidel Castro could not even provide prosperity for eleven million Cubans living on a tropical island with Verdon soil. Cuba remains impoverished so all the free stuff. I sound good good to millions of Americans but the problem is it doesn't work and it will bankrupt the American economy so everyone will suffer. Keep that in mind on and that's the O'Reilly message. Please check out my latest book. The United States at trump posted an expert on bill O'Reilly Dot Com website. I think you like affects something. You might not know the housing market on fire all over the country with interest rates. Falling is a great time to sell your home if if you want to sell or buy the competition is going to be fierce. You need a great real estate agent to help you. That's why my friend Glenn. Beck started the service real estate agents. I trust DOT COM as a way to make sure you get connected with agents who are successful ambitious like minded and eager to help you with your biggest investment. Estimate these are agents with long track record of performance. There are no part time or inexperience agents in Beck's network. 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America has by far the strongest military on the planet our Armed Forces include include Army Navy Marines Air Force and soon to be space force and don't forget the coastguard the USA spends three times more on defense than any other country including our nearest rival China while the USA has the most powerful armed forces pushes in history of the world where not immune to defeat here are a few of America's toughest military situations the battle of Long Island during the American revolution first major engagement after the USA declared its independence from Britain nineteen thousand Americans versus twenty two two thousand British troops on the hills of Brooklyn. George Washington forced to evacuate seating New York City to the redcoats eighteen fourteen and the battle of Bladensburg the British set fire to the Treasury building the Capitol building and the White House forcing forcing president James Madison to flee the city first lady dolley Madison Risks Alive to preserve countless artifacts including a portrait of George Washington. The White House would remain unoccupied for three years but the painting is back there right now by the way America did defeat the British in the war of eighteen eighteen twelve next the battle of the little bighorn in eighteen seventy six also known as custer's last stand. George custer faced off off against Sioux and Cheyenne warriors in the Montana territory. US troops were completely overwhelmed. Six hundred soldiers killed old in less than forty five minutes. Their bodies stripped scalped and dismembered. You can go to the national site there and it is very impressive. You'll see the entire era battle unfold before your eyes next to a complete disaster. The Bay of Pigs invasion in nineteen sixty one America blundering during his way through a proposed invasion of Cuba financing fifteen hundred exiled to overthrow Fidel Castro. It didn't work and here's something you might not know. The Secrecy See of that invasion was ruined by the New York Times on April seventh nineteen sixty one the times ran a front page article entitled Anti Castro Units Trained to fight at Florida basis back after this the American economy continues to grow but that doesn't mean it's time to get complacent with your finances. FINANCES BE PROACTIVE pay off high interest debt. Take advantage of the market's low mortgage rates right now takes just a ten minute call to American financing dancing their salary based mortgage consultants can customize alone meet your financial goals. 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Interview with Democratic congressional candidate Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez; Interview with Alabama Democratic Senator Doug Jones; Interview with former Special Counsel and author of the new book "Contempt" Ken Starr; Jake's take on Trump and Puerto Rico.

State of the Union with Jake Tapper

43:20 min | 2 years ago

Interview with Democratic congressional candidate Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez; Interview with Alabama Democratic Senator Doug Jones; Interview with former Special Counsel and author of the new book "Contempt" Ken Starr; Jake's take on Trump and Puerto Rico.

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Paul Manafort takes a plea deal with the special counsel pledging to cooperate on quote any and all matters. Nothing to do with Jude President Trump be worried. We'll talk to former prosecutor and democratic Senator Doug Jones and the man who investigated President Clinton Ken Starr next progressive power. Democrats believe they have the enthusiasm and out rates navy to push through two thousand eighteen and all the way to two thousand twenty. Vote, but we'll party divisions, knocked them off track rising, democratic star. Alexandria. Cossio Cortez will be here in minutes. Hello. I'm Jake tapper in Washington with the state of our union is still concerned for the Carolinas. Florence already has taken more than a dozen lives. Left hundreds of thousands without power homes and businesses are destroyed, roads washed away with flash floods, and mudslides the immediate and urgent concern after slamming shore as a hurricane. Florence has now been downgraded to a tropical depression, but there's little comfort in that the storm is breaking rainfall records as it moves inland, turning rivers into lakes and towns into islands, first responders and citizens fighting back with everything they have. I want to go straight to CNN's Kaley hard time with the Cajun navy conducting rescues in Wilmington North Carolina. She is on a boat that is on a trailer about to be taken into the water. Kaley tell us what you're seeing. Yeah, Jake. This vote in the process of being launched into the floodwaters by the volunteers of the Cajun navy into an area where they believe hundreds are in need of help. This is a different kind of phenomenon. This is something we've never seen. That's how wilmington's mayor Bill Sappho described this developing situation to me as flood waters are rising and moving into areas that have never flooded before. Last night. The Cajun navy helped rescue more than two hundred people in this area of north Wilmington that we're in. Now, those rescues began because the local fire department called the Cajun navy asking for their help as Todd Terrel. The leader of this group tells me they got that phone call because they're the ones with the boats. They're the ones with the manpower. They were the ones who could get to people who were surprised by these waters. Quickest, Jake, these rescues will continue for some time to come in this county and neighboring once or with the Cajun navy in North Carolina. Thank you so much. Appreciate it. As Florence hammers the Carolinas. President Trump seemingly remains fixated and what is now the official death toll in Puerto Rico. From hurricane year ago, he's repeating his untruthful claim that the official death toll of goes to three thousand people was made up by Democrats to hurt him. Joining me now is House Democratic candidate and rising progressive star barred me, Alexandria Cossio Cortez. Her mother is from Puerto Rico, and she had family in Puerto Rico during the hurricane Alexandra. Thanks so much for joining us the president continuing to send these tweets, disputing the official government death toll from hurricane Maria, and blaming Democrats for inventing those numbers. I know this is personal for you. You tweeted that your grandfather died in Puerto Rico in the aftermath of the storm. I'm so sorry for your loss. Can you tell us what happened? Well, I think what happened in my family is what happened to thousands of Puerto Ricans where in the gladsden and government in action, there was so little. There was so little responsible little connection. You don't know whether a hospital lost power, Mike. Father was was in a medical facility and he had passed away in the middle of the night. The people who pass away in these storms to the most vulnerable, their children with illnesses. They are elderly and when power is not restored when infrastructure is not taken seriously. These were the first people who pass away in storms and what we saw him. Puerto Rico was a mass death of three thousand people. It was the worst humanitarian crisis in modern American history and many, many people impacted by this storm point to government. Inaction as the cause of death. The Trump administration will respond to comments like the one you just made by saying that FEMA was on the ground. They were doing as much as they could. The infrastructure on the island was already badly damaged because of years, if not decades of neglect by politicians in Puerto Rico and the United States, what did you make of the president's tweets? Well. I think first and foremost there is a systemic issue here, and that is the modern day colonial relationship that the United States has with authority co. Puerto Ricans are technically American citizens, but they do not have the right to vote. They are. They are treated in completely different ways as a normal American citizens are. And for that reason, you do have the chronic neglect of the island, and it is acute situations like this when which Puerto Ricans continue to be treated like second class citizens, Puerto Rico was given a fraction of the femur recovery as other as Houston. For example, in hurricane Harvey, we have hurricane Irma. We have hurricane sandy, and this is not just an issue of the colonial status of Puerto Rico, but is also an issue of us not treating and dedicating enough resources to address climate change enough either. They don't have the right to vote. When you say they don't have the right to vote, you mean they don't have the right to vote for members of the house that can vote on the floor and and they don't have two senators because obviously they have the right to vote. I mean, there has no right to vote in federal elections. They cannot they cannot choose a president. They do not have a vote in. They don't have a represent a Representative vote in the house or the Senate, which means that they did not even have the capacity to choose for this president yet they are continued to suffer at the hands of this administration. So I wanna move on. You endorsed progressive candidate Cynthia Nixon in the democratic primary for governor of New York. She lost on Thursday to governor Andrew Cuomo by a whopping thirty one points. Now I know progressive candidates have had plenty of other victories including yours, but governor Cuomo said that your progressive wave was quote, not even a ripple. He called your primary win a quote fluke. And he asked on Friday quote, where was that effect yesterday? What's your response to governor Cuomo? Well, I mean, I always take a, you know, I'm always down to to go toe-to-toe sometimes, but I think. That's what when you actually look at the numbers that we focused on every single down ballot progressive candidate in my district, New York, fourteen one New York had a profound tied titled change really in the Democratic Party one out of every five. Democratic senators got replaced on Thursday night and the path to eliminating the IDC was through New York fourteen in my district. So I'm proud to say that every single locally endorsed candidate that we mobilize for one our election. Cynthia Nixon, did a phenomenal job. Thirty points, right? Right. But we focused on our local Kansas and we focused on the legislatures. But you know, I think that what she did was that she her to a lot of phenomenal issue. She sent her racial Justice. She centered criminal Justice reform. She sent her the legalization of marijuana, single payer healthcare, and a lot of down ballot candidates benefited from that. And what I also look forward to moving forward is us rallying behind all democratic nominees, including the governor to make sure that he wins in November your platform who's called for various new programs, including Medicare for all housing as a federal, right, federal jobs, guarantee tuition, free public college, canceling all student loan debt according to a nonpartisan and left leaning studies friendly to your cause, including the center on budget and policy priorities or the tax policy center. The overall price tag is more than forty trillion dollars in the next decade. You recently said in an interview that increasing taxes on the very wealthy plus an increased corporate tax rate would make two trillion. Over the next ten years. So where's the other thirty? Eight trillion dollars gonna come from. So we need to realize when we look at something like Medicare for all Medicare for all would save the American people a very large amount of money and what we see as well as that these systems are not just a pie in the sky, they are many of them are accomplished by every modern civilized democracy. In the western world, the United the United Kingdom has a form of single payer, healthcare, Canada, France, Germany, what we need to realize that these investments are better and they are good for our future. These are generational investments so that not just they're not short term bandaids, but they are really profound decisions about who we want to be as a nation and as and how we want to act as the wealthiest nation in the history of the world. But the price tag for everything that you've laid out in your campaign is forty trillion dollars over the next ten years. I understand that Medicare for all would cost more to some wealthier people and to the government and taxpayers while also reducing individual healthcare expenditures. But I'm talking about the overall package. You say it's not pie-in-the-sky, but forty trillion dollars is quite a bit of money and the taxes that you talked about raising to pay for this to pay for your agenda only count for two and I, we're going by left leaning analysts. Well, when you look at again how our healthcare work's, currently, we pay much of these costs go into the private sector. So what we see is, for example, you know, a year ago I was working downtown in a restaurant. I, I went around and I asked how many of you folks have health insurance. Not a single person did because these there were paying they would have had to pay two hundred dollars a month. For four payment for insurance that had an eight thousand dollar deductible. What these represent are lower cost overall for these programs. And additionally, what this is is a broader agenda. We do know we acknowledged that their political realities. They don't always happen with just the wave of a wand, but we can work to make these things happen. And in fact, when we when you look at the economic activity that it Spurs, for example, if you look at my generation millennials, the amount of of economic activity that we do not engage in the fact that we delay purchasing homes that we don't participate in the economy and purchasing cars at cetera as fully as possible is a cost. It is a an extra analogy if you will, of of unprecedent precedent amounts of student loan debt. I'm not going to get an answer for the other thirty eight trillion dollars, but we'll have you back and maybe we can go over that. But I do want to ask you about some breaking news here because you've been a major supporter of the metoo movement. You have also expressed the need for caution. In the past. You said, quote, we also need to make sure that due process is held. There's this new accusation this week for an from an anonymous woman about supreme court. Nominee, Brad Kavanagh from an incident more than thirty five years ago. It was leaked to the press by Democrats. Do you think Brett cabin on deserves the benefit of the down here? I think that I believe well, first of all, Brad Kavanagh should not be confirmed to the supreme court under any circumstances whether regardless and what about the sport about this on this case with this anonymous accusation? Well, I certainly think that one of the aspects of due process is that we have to hear these things out and he should certainly not be confirmed before this is explored. So you think that do you think an anonymous accusation is enough? What if the woman decides that she does not want to come forward. There are a lot of people who think that that kind of due process you've called for has not happened here. This was not. This was not raised in the public confirmation. Hearing it was not raised in the written requests for comment. It was not raised in the private closed session. There is a way of process for this to happen. The Democrats had his information in July, but it didn't come out until a few days ago. Yeah. Again, I think that that really we talk about process and due process and Justice. It must center on the victim. I cannot say whether what should be done and what should not be done because what we need to make sure is that there is do do Justice for the victim in this case, if she it, a lot of that depends on if she wants to come forward if she chooses to remain anonymous or frankly. When it comes to behaviors like sexual assault, it's about power and often when it comes to behaviors of sexual assault, they are not one off incidents. They are repeated. So perhaps this woman chooses to remain anonymous. But if if her account is true, there could potentially be other victims out there that. Are scared to come forward and this could potentially be inactive solidarity and for them to to air that out if they exist because the accused deserve any due process as well. Well, to processes about Justice for all folks involved. And when we have a lack of process than we have a lack of Justice for both victims and and the accused. But what is going on right now is that there is not due process and we're looking at brushing a potentially an extremely concerning incident under the rug which should not be occurring, especially when it comes to a supreme court nomination in which the Republican party has already demonstrated that they will not disclose or they will not really unseal a lot of the documents which they, frankly demanded of democratic nominees for the supreme court. They wanted to make sure that I mean look at what they put Eric garner America Arlen through look at what they put Sonia slip on my your through. Yeah, they want to. Kind of hide almost everything about Brett Kevin offs history. And so I think that what this is is that this is a pattern and there's a pattern of keeping this nominee in the dark ahead of his combination. Cortes. Thank you so much for being with us. We appreciate it. President Trump said he was quote sad about Powell conviction last month. How does he feel now that his former campaign chairman, he's talking to Robert Mahler and the president's pick for the supreme court forced to deny non allegation. Just days from the first vote on his confirmation. A Senator who's vote could be key. Red state democrat, Doug Jones is here next stay with us. Support for state of the union comes from our friends at rocket mortgage by Quicken Loans. Let's talk about buying a home for a minute because of rising interest rates. There's a lot of unpredictability when it comes to buying a home these days, it's causing a lot of anxiety with folks. 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Number thirty thirty. Welcome back. President Trump supreme court. Nominee. Brett cavenaugh is denying serious allegation of sexual misconduct levelled by an anonymous woman and a letter given to Democratic Senator Dianne Feinstein. The woman claims while they were both high schoolers in the nineteen eighties Cavanaugh held her down and tried to force himself on her at a party. Cavenaugh has issued a flat unequivocal denial quote. I categorically and unequivocally denied this allegation. I did not do this back in high school or at any time, the chairman of the Senate Judiciary committee Republican Chuck Grassley says he has no plans to delay Kavanagh's confirmation vote. But the story is now part of the debate over this supreme court nominee and something every Senator will need to weigh here with me as a Senator who's vote, could decide factoring Kavanagh's confirmation, democratic Senator Doug Jones of Alabama Senator. Thanks for joining us. You're hoping to meet with cavenaugh this week. Are you going to bring up this accusation. Oh, I'm sure I will get a chance to meet. It's a very serious allegation. But at this point it's it's, you know you, it's an anonymous letter. You're not going to be able to really tested unless somebody comes forward with more information. But if I get a chance to meet, obviously would have to bring that up. We're only talking about it because your fellow Senate Democrats had this information in late July, didn't do anything about it and then leaked it a few days ago. As far as I can tell, they didn't do anything during the hearing process in terms including the behind closed doors, closed session and the written answers. Do you have any issues with how your fellow Democrats have handled this allegation? Well, I think that it should have been brought up at least behind closed doors. I mean, it's a really serious allegation the same time. It's a very difficult situation. When you got allegations like this very sensitive allegations that are important and you want to respect the wishes of victim as well as be fair to the people, the person that's being accused, I think it's a difficult spot to be in a wish. Someone. That talked about early on, it could've maybe been cleared up. I think at this late date we're going to have to wait and see if this person decides to come forward to test that in the light of day similar to what happened in my race. Jake, you've got to have that and in the open tested in the in the in the sunshine of the media and other things in order to judge the credibility. Well, that's the thing. I mean in your race, the accusations against your Republican opponent. ROY Moore were on the record, accusations with corroborating evidence. Individuals who were told at the time for women who came out publicly and talked about it is this standard now for Senate Democrats won anonymous allegation? No, I don't think so. I, I don't think it's that at all. I think you are going to see this nomination move forward. There's really not much that can be done unless this person comes forward and you can see this and talk to the person who wrote that letter just thinking anonymous letter to rail something this late date. Is just not a good practice and I don't think it will happen, but there is still time Jake there is still time, and I'm sure that there are people talking about this and there is still time for this to come forward and shed more light on what may or may not have happened back some thirty years ago. You still have yet to now it's how you're going to vote on the cavenaugh nomination. You represent a state. I don't need to tell you it's pretty red. Donald Trump won Alabama by twenty eight percentage points. Don't you think just empirically majority of your constituents want you to confirm bright capital. What it's been interesting to get letters and the cards and the phone calls, and it's not been as overwhelming as you might think. It's not been anywhere close to the twenty eight percent of the vote that Donald Trump got there. There are people that believe very strongly on both sides of this issue. So that is one threes reason. I am spending as much time as I am. I had a process that I set up early on to go through all of the documents to go through all of the speeches to go through all of the opinions to try to listen to the hearing which we did make those notes ask, you know, write down our notes for questions and hopefully meet with him. If I don't get a chance to meet with him, then I'll obviously have to go with what I've got. But I think right now we're still in our deep dive and we've got a few more days to do that and another major news this week President Trump's former campaign chair, Paul Manafort pleaded guilty to a number of crimes on Friday. Here's how the president's personal attorney responded. Quote. Once again, investigation has concluded with a plea having nothing to do with President Trump or the Trump campaign. The reason the president did nothing wrong. Quote, your former US attorney in Alabama, isn't he right that the crimes to which Manafort had pleaded guilty of nothing to do with President Trump or the Trump campaign. Well, he is correct about that, but that really doesn't answer the question because in a plea bargain situation, you don't always plead to those situations it which you're still investigating. You don't always do that. It makes for a good news story and a good press release. But there's a method to sometimes doing a plea bargain that has nothing to do with the ultimate goal. So I think the president should still be worried right now we have seen two of his closest advisors, one personal in Mr. Cohen in one, political and Mr. Manafort. So we've got to wait and see how this plays out. Muller is moving in its investigation expeditiously efficiently. We'll see where it goes, but I don't think that just because it didn't include the president's plea should have any weight one way or another. We'll see what comes next with a molar investigation. If we take a step back, we see as you know the form, the president's former campaign chairman is going to prison. In all likelihood, the president's personal lawyer as you just noted, is implicated the president in a felony camp. Pain, finance, law, but violation. The special counsel investigating potential obstruction of Justice. A new CNN poll shows that almost eight in ten Democrats support beginning impeachment proceedings against President Trump. Do you. Just because you've seen people that surround the president that have gone for, does it mean that there should be impeachment hearings not by any stretch. Once we see any reports, then you'll have to weigh those own their own. But simply because it looked check, I've gone through two million vestige where there's tur- circle seem to tighten around and ultimate target, but it never got there. So let's just kind of wait and see how this thing plays out. There's a lot of speculation right now and clearly you've got people that were close to the president United States that committed crimes, and that ended of itself is a problem, but it's not necessarily an impeachable offense. All right. Senators are Jones, democrat of Alabama, always good to see, sir. Thank you so much. Nice to see you. Jake. Thanks. He's the man who led the probe that led to President Clinton's impeachment. Where does Ken Starr put the odds that President Trump will be impeached? I'll ask them live next day with us. You know what's not smart job sites that overwhelm you with tons of the wrong resumes, but you know what is mart? ZipRecruiter dot com slash as so t you unlike other job sites. 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Paul Manafort is now cooperating with Robert Muller's Russia investigation, press secretary. Sarah Sanders saying quote, had absolutely nothing to do with the president unquote. Joining me now is Ken Starr whose independent counsel investigations led to President Clinton's impeachment. His new book is content a memoir of the Clinton investigation, and Ken start joins me now. Thanks so much. Congratulations on the book. Jake, the president's personal lawyer, Rudy Giuliani also released the statement on Friday about the Manafort plea deal quote. Once again, an investigation has concluded with a plea having nothing to do with President Trump or the Trump campaign and the reason the president did nothing wrong. And Paul Manafort we'll tell the truth. Then the issued that statement again, except they took out the Paul Manafort will tell the truth part of this. Do you think that they're paving the way Rudy Giuliani for attacks on Paul manafort's credibility? Does it send a signal that they're worried about what he might say? How would you interpret that? Well, the playbook is. As I describe in contempt. I mean, I think that the Trump White House and the lawyers are taking a page from the Clinton playbook attack the prosecutor. This is more delicate because now you have someone very close to the president for a while, the campaign manager. So I think it's going to be very careful. But on the other hand, the real significance of what's happened is we're much closer to getting the truth than we were before this play. It is so terrific for the investigation and frankly, for the American people that were moving forward, we're getting someone who may be knowledgeable. We don't know. We don't know what Bob Muller knows. We don't know what Paul Manafort can share, but there was a key word in that agreement, which was truthfully. And then there was another key word fully and that's what we really need to do now. Thus, for these signs are, there is no evidence of Paul Manafort is going to bring forward of collusion, but we'll see. President Trump is certainly signaled that he is thinking. About possibly pardoning Paul Manafort, do you think he should and what do you think the repercussions would be if he did? Well, I think it would be unwise of wine for the president to do that because the process of Justice has occurred. I don't know of any justification for pardoning an individual who just stands convicted, a very serious crimes and who just pled guilty to serious crime. So it doesn't look as if there's a miscarriage of Justice. The president does have the clean air power to do that, but I think it would just be an imprudent decision. Do you think based on having been a prosecutor? Do you think that it's likely that Robert Mueller is wrapping things up, or do you think he might be opening up a whole new avenue? We have no idea. Well, as I recounted my book, I thought I would be through in six months because what can be so serious about a failed land deal in Arkansas that has been investigated before, but what one finds out and getting into an investigation is all my word. They're different avenues that come to you. Ultimately, the Monica Lewinsky phase which came to us as a complete surprise, attorney general Reno authorized that. So we just don't know we're behind the veil of ignorance. J. a lot of times the president's defenders will actually site you when talking about out of control prosecutors, fishing, expeditions, perjury, tramps, etc. How do you respond to that will as I? So this book I tell the whole story of the demonization that the Clinton White House and there's her gets carried on. It was a campaign of demonization, not just of yours, truly, but people in the investigation and the like, just it was show quarter, take them out Hillary difference. The only difference perhaps being that that President Trump himself is leading the charge here. Whereas President Clinton had other people do it for half for the most part. But there were critical times, for example, after the conviction of Jim and Susan McDougal, and then some signals that Bill Clinton was. Sending to Susan McDougal who stood convicted of fraud very serious crimes that brought down and savings and loan and so forth. But you're right. Bill Clinton had very different style, charismatic, attractive and so forth. Whereas Donald Trump just comes directly at you as a New York street fighter, do you do you think that President Trump will face the same fate of President Clinton, which is impeachment I hope not because one of the lessons in the book is impeachment is hell. The country should not be taken through that. The founding generation wisely knew that it was such a serious accuracy requires a two-thirds majority in the Senate, unless there is a growing national consensus that impeachment is proper, it's doomed to fail and it's just the wrong way to go. And it's very good you. So you're happy that President Clinton was not removed from office. You think that it worked the way it should have? I think this system worked, how would I voted as a Senator? I think I would have voted to remove him, but. I can understand full well the interests of the American people, and then you know, significant number of the senators who just said, this is not directly related enough what he did. They were crimes, but it's not directly related enough to conduct of the presidency. And that may happen here. We'll we'll see all this that is related thus far has to do with things that happened before the president United States. Donald Trump was sworn end bread cabin on the supreme court. Nominee worked for you while while you were doing the impeachment proceedings, etc. While you're gathering evidence, I, I want to ask, what was your I know you support him for force for what was your reaction when you heard about this anonymous allegation about him by a woman alleging that in that in high school, there was serious sexual misconduct if not attempted assault as someone who's interested in process and fairness, obviously, any allegation is of this kind of nature is unfortunate serious allegation, but to be honest, I was out raised about the timing as well as the process. That the letter from something long ago was in the hands and you covered it very well of the Democrats in July, and yet there is nothing done about this. I just think it's too late for there to be any serious consideration at this stage. It's sort of the the matter has journ you had your opportunity to come forward and you failed to do that year after year after year. The book is contempt memoir of the Clinton investigation Ken Starr thanks for being here. Thank you, Jerry. She ate it with less than two months until election day. Could the president's confidence about eight red wave backfire in November. That's what a new study suggests stay with us. My name is Paul Shirley, and I've gone on a lot of dates. I've noticed something on these dates. I often find myself telling the same stories stories about my mother teaching sex Ed stories about playing college basketball stories about playing NBA basketball and almost dying in the process. We all do this. We tell stories on dates because dates or when you get to explain where we've been and what we've seen in why we think like we do my name is Paul Shirley, and I hope you'll check out my new narrative podcast stories I tell on dates, you can subscribe for free on apple podcasts or wherever you find your favorite shows. Nobody Sean rush how much Paul Manafort did to really help help this campaign to where it is right now. Pulse, great guy, and I think my father didn't want to be distracted by, you know, whatever things always with stealing within Nepal was making, and he helped us get through the primary process of all helped us grow the campaign and we need ten more of these. Members of the Trump team in two thousand sixteen talking about how great Paul Manafort was how essential he was. Our panel joins us now and Mark we should first of all point out that you had an NDA that you signed when you joined the Trump campaign in two thousand sixteen where we're supposed to mention that. But let me let me say it's hard to make the argument that Paul Manafort had nothing to do with Trump or the campaign. Jake, and I think that Paul was brought in at the time to help with the convention and he did a good job of that. And then he ran the campaign after the convention. And then he was. Campaign manager. You're right. And I think that Kellyanne was campaign manager. Did it phenomenal job too. So I I think that, yeah, it's hard to to say that he had no role in the campaign that same time. Jake, it seems so far all the allegations predate his involvement in the campaign. It's about his time is a lobbyist representing foreign governments and and tax evasions a serious charge and not founds a foreign lobbyists serious charge. And those should be prosecuted full extent of the law. But that does sound quite to collusion with Russia on the campaign congresswoman. I think Bob Muller has been running a great investigation. I think he was just handed the keys to the castle, not just with Manafort but also Cohen. I mean, when you think about this, it isn't just the individual pieces that we're seeing. But what we're seeing is top advisors, people who ran the campaign, the campaign manager, the deputy campaign manager. The president's personal lawyer who have all pleaded guilty and you have to begin to wonder what exactly how it could possibly. Be the case that the president knew nothing about what was going on. We obviously still have a ways to go in terms of connecting Russia to the campaign and the president that is still out there. But I think that you see this reflected in the polls. You see people, recognizing they don't trust the president. They don't trust. They believe that Muller is doing a good job and that the investigation should continue. And I think people are saying, look, this is outrageous this level of corruption, greed. Some of the individual charges that are outlined in the Manafort. Charging document really show that this guy. I mean, he's in jail because of jury, tampering. This was the person who ran Donald Trump's campaign, not just some junior person, the person who ran his campaign. I think that's a problem. We've seen President Trump's approval among independents take real hit in the last couple of months and this this and Michael Cohen might be some of the reasons for it. Yeah, I think that's the case, and I think it's a threat during midterms, but it is hard to make the argument that he had nothing to do with campaign. It's easy to make the argument that the crimes of which he's been convicted predated Donald Trump and that he would have had no way to know about them because he didn't know Manafort at the time by the way, I would like to remark that you can run the clock. Run the tape back on me in two thousand sixteen so about this Manafort mayor folio. So I'm not surprised that this stuff has come out. It remains an assumption that Muller has made this deal because there's definitely something there. Certainly he's proffered something, but it remains to be seen, of course, those those guys, the only two. No, at this point, exactly what he has and whether it actually does go to collusion, which is the big, very big missing piece of this thus far I want I want to just turn to politics if we can because all this comes as we're less than two minutes two months away. And. I want to show you this remarkable quote from the New York Times reporting on a series of focus groups done by America. First action. That's a political action committee associated with President Trump the times reported, quote, conservative, leaning voters in the study, routinely dismissed the possibility of a democratic wave election with some describing the prospect as fake news. And this is interesting because President Trump is the one out there saying we have a red wave coming. It's not a Blue Wave, don't believe the polls that actually could end up hurting him. If his supporters believed that there's there's no threat because it's a base election. That's what ma- midterms are all about, and if you can't get your base out at which he needs to come out, then you're not going to do well in a midterm, election, Donald Trump's polling numbers of favorability. Numbers are down. You guys have have him as thirty six. We saw Washington Post two weeks ago at thirty six and a lot of it is because what we have seen this summer, the Helsinki would put Putin and also the tearing up the kids with their families which is hurting him with king voters that he will lead in November. Which ones specifically, suburban, suburban moms. We saw some softening with rule moms as well or wound women, I should say, and that is problematic for Republicans in the federal and also that we see in fighting for gubernatorial and Senate races as well. And so this is where we are, but I have to say, you know, I think we should Democrats should not sit on their laurels, I think, yes, the the wind is behind our backs, the metrics and the data showing that, but we have to go out and make sure we not gonna all the doors make all the calls because you never know what can happen of the glass time that there was one party control the White House, the house and the Senate Democrats lost sixty three seats in two thousand ten. It's tough to win when you control. Americans want divided government. At the same time, I think, was probably cap on Democrats. Success is candidates who want to abolish immigrations and customs, and we want to make sure that there's Medicare for all government paid for every single American. I think that the policies, the Democrats are taking that move them further and further to the left is what's going to negate them having, perhaps the capstone election cycle they want. Is that, is that true? You think? No. I mean, Obama embraced Medicare for all in life. I really think that this is all about people across the country. Red states and blue states wanting a check on this president. They see the chaos of the last eighteen months. They don't want it. They don't like not only you know, they don't like the shattering of norms. What? What does a person who has the biggest bully pulpit of the White House? Do they don't like the tweets that come from the president contesting what happened in Maria. They want him to be focused. They want him to be presidential and Donald Trump is none of those things. But in addition to that, I think people are not seeing their own lives changing and they, you know, healthcare is the number one issue on the table. It really is. And and when you look at what Republicans have done to undermine healthcare costs to drive premiums up to strip pre exist, the ability to to qualify for health care with pre existing conditions. These are things that Americans. Care about. They do not see healthcare getting better. I think that is the number one issue on the table. I think Republicans have done nothing. Just support the Affordable Care Act. You are somebody who has issues with ObamaCare being on a subscriber to ObamaCare your premiums went on, are you can sort of bad things that happened before. Right. Are are you? Are you concerned? Because I know you're, you don't like what happened with ObamaCare? Are you concerned that the president's behavior or whatever it is is going to hurt your Bill. I assume you support Republicans signs the behavior. That's the problem. It's like the system's inability to address the problem in any sort of nuance way, which is the problem we have with ObamaCare and a bunch of broken promises and sort of blanket promises that did not come true. And was the case during trying to tweak it in any way possible? I'm not sure it's the top issue on people's minds, but I will say this. I do think the greatest allies Republicans have our democratic overreach and the economy, but people aren't able to think about those things when Trump is tweeting a ton and the number with like fifty eight to twenty seven percent. People want voters want congress to be more of a check on the president that's trouble for him, especially in the house that being said, it cannot be overstated how friendly the Senate map is. For Republicans. They are blowing a chance to gain a bunch of seats, but they may very well keep what they have and maybe even gain a few invulnerable democrat spots. I know you're concerned about the house. Are you concern you you wanted to stay in Republican hands and you're concerned about it, or are you concerned about the Senate? You see more vulnerable than it was before? Of course, I think that anytime. You're in this sort of situation. It's difficult, but I do think is Cathy said the math is far more favorable. I think it looks favorable, Missouri, North Dakota, Indiana, and Florida. It's like there's several opportunities for pickups. Donald Trump is going to Texas in a couple of weeks to help Ted Cruz. I think that says everything. It wasn't a couple of weeks. Yeah, thanks so much. Everyone appreciated a final saw on the president's trouble with the truth and empathy in the time of crisis in Puerto Rico. Next with us. Hello podcast people how you do and that voice of SIMS on left co. You know us from podcast called Simpson left go, but now we got a new show. We get a little different since we're kind of going to be big time. Gonna talk ball. We're gonna talk sports and culture too. I'm gonna teach SIMS. The internet. We're going to have players onset. We're going to go out and mess with them. It's going to be a lot of fun. It is. We're going to be on the streets. We're gonna be talking to fans. We're gonna try to educate everybody and have a good time. So check it out the be our app, eight PM's on Wednesday, eight PM shut up. Welcome back and Trump making it clear this week that when it came to the national tragedy call caused by hurricane Maria Puerto Rico, he seems to think that the real victim is him the president continuing to dispute the official death toll of close to three thousand people in Puerto Rico. After hurricane Maria saying, Democrats made up the number quote like magic. Of course, the president is combining a few of his favorite things here in this false claim, blaming the Democrats tending to the needs of his ego and reputation and carelessly spreading conspiracy theories without ever issuing a fraction of proof tobacco up. What he's saying. He did this for years, of course, perpetuating the lie. The President Obama wasn't born in the United States and claiming with no evidence that he saw on TV thousands of Muslims and New Jersey, celebrating nine, eleven from rooftops, suggesting Senator Ted Greece's father might have been involved in the assassination of JFK insisting he only lost the popular vote because three to five million people vote. Illegally and on and on and on. And now in the middle of another deadly storm, he blithely dismisses the Puerto Rico, death toll and takes an undeserved victory lap around an island that is still suffering. Now, taking issue with the methodology of the study approximated three thousand deaths. That's one thing, but dismissing those numbers as part of an attempt to victimize him. That's another on Twitter. This weekend, the governor for Rico, pleaded with President Trump offering to walk him through the scientific process that led to the updated death toll quote. There is no reason to underscore the tragedy. We have suffered in the aftermath of hurricane Maria, governor Rosaiah wrote quote, I hope you consider sending a message of support to show you stand with all of the US citizens in Puerto Rico that lost loved ones. It would certainly be an active respect and empathy on election night. Mr. Trump pledged to be a president for all Americans. Puerto Ricans are Americans true Mr President, how does writing about President Trump compared to writing about president, Nixon reporter who's done both. Woodward will be here next. So many people around the world depend on CNN's quality reporting. And now they have an incredible online store. We've clothes gear and gadgets right now you can get fifteen percent off your purchase, just visit store dot, CNN dot com. And when you're checking out into the code CNN podcast, just one word and get a fifteen percent discount. It's that simple that's store dot c. n. n. dot com.

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Ep. 275 - The Motherf***er With The Hat

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Ep. 275 - The Motherf***er With The Hat

"What do Snoop Doggy Dogg, the incoming democrat congressman have in common? Too much. I'm sorry to say we will analyze their vulgar minds, particularly as it relates to that mother effort with the hat, then Hollywood loses at the Golden Globes and the Oscars beg Kevin Hart to re agree to host. I offer my novel solution to the awards show problem or be g MRs a day at court and the Vatican celebrates the Cuban revolution. We will analyze what other popes have had to say about the scourge of socialism. I'm Michael Knowles. And this is the Michael Knowles show. So much to get to today, and I wouldn't be able to say even one single word if I didn't have these bright, shiny teeth of mine, and the reason I have those bright shiny teeth is because of quip the new year means new resolutions, and we've got one you are working on twice every day. 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We haven't unfortunately checked in yet with one of the great political philosophic minds of our time snoop diggity do dog who has some thoughts on the government shutdown. All you people put a federal government that guy not getting paid right now can win the world jock invoked Donald Trump when he come back up again. If y'all do vote for him Yasser stupid, I'm saying it's y'all early all you settle government people. That's not being paid as being treated unfairly writing in not being. That's so terrible in this pump. Okay. So I'm saying that to say when they get back on y'all get your jobs back in his time to vote. Don't vote for that. Please. Don't look what he do. You just don't give y'all honest hardworking people suffering. So if he don't care about y'all. Really don't give about us. So Kim to everybody down with Donald Trump. I said a snoop Dogg. Really profound really really thoughtful. I would say snoop Dogg's take on the government shutdown because nobody speaks for honest hard-working blue-collar Americans quite like Snoop Doggy Dogg in accused murderer Dr accused drive by shooter. He got off by that on the way, he got off on the drive-by shooting, George on the murder charge. Although the jury was hung on his manslaughter charge. Nobody nobody really speaks for those hard-working blue-collar Americans. Look, quite like a guy who's wearing probably fifty thousand dollars worth of gold chains around his neck who gets paid to just swear and curse on on songs. I put songs in quotes that nobody really. That's the voice of America. That's it. That's it. That's that's so you have that on one side. And then you've got Donald Trump. I really like it. Because obviously if somebody like snoop Dogg running his math like that. He makes Donald Trump, look polite. But you might say Michael, you know, you're really being unfair. Fair here. This is an unfair comparison to compare the president of the United States to some stupid rapper some guy runs his mouth, and you know, was involved with gangs, and all that's that's not a fair comparison. Okay. Okay. That's fair enough. Let's compare what snoop Dogg said to what the incoming democrat congressman Rashida sleep had to say. Says momma, look you one bullies don't win. And maybe they don't because we're going to go on they're going to teach them. Oh, it's exactly the same. Okay. Which was which I don't know is that congresswoman snoop diggity dog is that who that was there is now no difference between profane rappers and members of congress, and they're actually is something of a symmetry here because I don't want to let Donald Trump off the hook entirely. Donald Trump is a product of the popular culture. And so what's going on? It's not just showing how tawdry and despicable the Democrats are. Although that's part of it. What it's showing is the effect of culture on politics. So Donald Trump is a product of this popular culture, and you helped shape the popular culture. He's been on TV. We've known him for decades and decades, and by the way, he was a hip hop icon for decades as well. His name was referenced in hip hop songs all the time until he ran for president as a Republican. And so you've got him affecting that culture a little bit. He's he's had a little bit of a loose mouth. You might say, although he's been much less per feigns since he's been. Elected president, which is very nice. And now, you see the culture following that and reacting to that even though the culture caused that end UC democrat congressman trying to follow suit. And with this really is is a symptom of something that's grown for a long time, which is people trying to do Donald Trump who are not Donald Trump. This doesn't work a lot of they see Donald Trump is this anomaly, he's this crazy cultural figure, and and when he talks loose and he uses humor, and he's a little flippant in his language that really works for him. So they all try to do it too. But they can't do it because they're not Donald Trump. You remember when little Marco tried to do it? He called me, Mr. meltdown. Let me tell you something last night in the debate. During one of the breaks to the brakes. He went backstage. He was having a meltdown. I he had this little makeup thing applying like makeup around his mustache because the I one of those sweat mustaches. Then. Then he asked for a full length mirror. I don't know why. Because the podium goes up to here, but he wanted to fooling mirror maybe to make sure his pants weren't wet. I dunno. Then. Now, I call him little Marco, I actually kind of like Marco Rubio. But there is little Marco when he's trying to be Donald Trump and failing. That's when he becomes little Marco. He's not a little Marco before. He's actually a pretty smart guy is a pretty good Senator. But when he does that he becomes a little Marco he degrades himself when he tries to do this Rickel stick that. He can't do only Donald Trump can do it. Why can Donald Trump do it because we've known him for very long time? And because he's a show biz guy. So in show business is a skill. It's a real skill being able to be on camera knowing how to work with television, knowing how to get a reaction from an a live audience. These are the skills that show business teaches you Donald Trump's been in it for a very long time. And we know him we know that when he says a swear word we know that when he speaks flippantly reuses an insult. We know what that means. And we know what that doesn't mean. We know that he's not some vicious murderer killer guy. We know he's not some we just he is what he is. He's Donald Trump. He's over the weekend. I was at a friend's house and for Christmas. They got me Trump the game. This is a board game that came at. And it's like a monopoly, but way, shadier kind of way more chaotic it's actually a very fun game. And this game though, it didn't come out in two thousand sixteen didn't come out in two thousand five when when the apprentice was on the air that game came out in nineteen eighty nine. So at least as far back as nineteen Eighty-nine. There was there was a game with Donald Trump's face on it. This guy has been in the popular consciousness for so long. So he can get away with a lot more. We haven't known Marco Rubio that long who is Marco Rubio. He kind of came up what five seven eight years ago. Maybe we started to hear about him. That's not long enough Rashida Toledo. What do we know about Rashida to leave? We know she's an anti Semite. We know that she has suggested that that certain Jews have dual citizenship or do dual loyalty and not. Oh loyalty to their country. We know that she supports the Beedi s movement boycott, divest and sanction Israel. She wants Israel wiped off the map engine literally wiped Israel off the map in her congressional office. She went to a map of the world. She took a sticky note wrote the word Palestine on it and covered up Israel. She put it, right. She actually it a symbolic way wiped Israel off the map. That's what we know about her. So when she says things like this when she uses words like mother effort, or whatever it's received very differently when Trump does it a guy that we've known for forty years, we think that's kind of funny. All right. Nothing's going to rock the boat. But that's okay. Oh, that's just Trump being Trump when this random anti Semite that we've just met. I mean, she just got into the popular consciousness comes out and starts screaming mother effort about our president. We take that very differently that could be a dangerous thing, especially when she wants to wipe a US ally off the map. That's why it doesn't work. She's not the only one by the way, who who has been guilty of this. You know, my my good friend. My my old neighbor. I call her Alexandria Kazzia Cortez. She has been getting in the news constantly, and I've got to tell you she's been saying very stupid things. We will talk about all of this. We will answer all of her very stupid and dangerous points. But I gotta give credit. She is really good at politics. She's really good at it. She is I've said for a long time. She's a shrewd politician. She is a freshman congresswoman she has accomplished zero in her life before getting elected to congress. She's lied about her upbringing, she she wasn't doing any through a community organizer, and she was working as a bartender to pay the bills for a little bit before she ran for congress voting records show that she was still living with her parents until twenty sixteen up in northern Westchester a women zero accomplishment has dominated the national end. Sometimes international news that requires immense skill. It's what makes her dangerous, and it's what makes her. Ignorance dangerous, and it would was what makes her ideology dangerous. Here is Alexandria, Kazuo Cortez talking about how she's going to pay for her awful socialist programs to Anderson Cooper, how were you going to pay for all this? No one asks how we're gonna pay for this space force. No one asked how we paid for two trillion dollar tax cut. We only ask how we pay for it on issues of housing, healthcare and education. How do we pay for it with the same? Exact mechanisms that we pay for military increases for the space force for all of these ambitious policies. Democrats, obviously who are worried about your party democratic Senator Chris coons said about left leaning Democrats if the next two years is just a race to offer increasingly unrealistic proposals. They'll be difficult for us to make a credible case, we should be allowed to govern. Again. What makes it? I'm realistic out of pay for we pay more per capita in healthcare and education for lower outcomes than many. Other nations. And so for me, what's unrealistic is is what we're living in right now. Yes. And no some of what you said is true very little. But some of it is true. She talks about per capita healthcare spending. With regard to advance socialist economies like the United Kingdom one thing. We have to remember is that the entire rest of the world depends on American healthcare innovation. They are all free riders on our healthcare innovation when that engine of innovation goes away. When all those drugs that we develop go away their healthcare regime, see their costs skyrocketing, they say the quality of care decrease all of those other regimes also have much lower quality of care. They have much longer. Wait times. People die waiting in line for surgery that doesn't happen here in the United States, or it doesn't need to happen here in the United States and most jarring for human dignity. You have the cases like little Alfie Evans like other little babies that we've seen just in the United Kingdom who were sick who had conditions where their parents wanted to take. Out of the government hospital. Take them to the United States, take them to Italy, take them elsewhere for treatment. And the government said, no there was one case where the parents wanted to take the baby out of the hospital and bring the baby. The pope said the baby could come to to a hospital next to the Vatican. And they would arrange for Italian citizenship, and they would make it all happen. And the government said, no, your baby is going to stay here and die. You have. No right to try to save your baby's life. That's socialism. That's socialist medicine to say nothing of the tax rates in some of these places. So Alexandria, Casio Cortez points to some countries that have socialist healthcare regimes. She says look at works fine. There. There are some reasons why in in some ways it does work there. But one reason is extraordinarily high tax rates. A now Alexandria is talking about raising the tax rates to seventy percent effectively. Eighty two point seven percent on people in places, like New York or California. She's throwing a lot of this out there. She is going full socialist full Hough. Log against the wall. We could spend I suppose we should spend at full shows talking about why socialist healthcare doesn't work why it's so bad for human dignity. Why the economics don't work white, especially wouldn't work if the United States were to enact it. But suffice it to say for now, I just want to point out this one trick that she is using that socialists to us all the time. Anderson Cooper says how are you going to pay for this healthcare program, which will cost forty trillion dollars over ten years? And she says well the same way we're going to pay for space force. Now, you've space forces this program. Donald Trump talked about a new branch of the military to deal with outerspace. When people hear that they say, okay, there's one government program space for us. And there's another government program socialist healthcare, and if you can pay for one you can pay for the other right wrong. The cost of space force is estimated to be thirteen billion dollars over five years soared to predict out what health or what what costs will be particularly in in a military program like that. But let's just double it. Let's just say that it's twenty six billion over ten years. You've got twenty six billion over ten years for space force. And you've got forty trillion dollars over ten years for healthcare. You were talking about a difference of not just an order of magnitude. But almost twice in order of magnitude. And yet when people hear these numbers, it's all the same. If it ends an Ilian, it's all the same. If the numbers bigger than a thousand. It's all the same. When when you hear million billion trillion quadrille, Yan Quintela, Ian zillion. You know, intellectually that there is a difference. But in your mind when you're visualizing, you don't visualize the difference. And I don't know if Okaz yo is extraordinarily ignorant. She might be or if she's being obtuse here and being crafty and clever to try to ram through this awful healthcare system of hers. But that's the trick. She's playing she thinks that you don't know the difference between a billion and a trillion the difference between a billion and a trillion is a full order of magnitude. It's a bunch of zeros. And so even just consider our annual budget for Syria. She says where are we going to get the money for space force our military actions in Syria cost about fifteen billion dollars per year. Space force will cost thirteen billion dollars over five years. So one year t pulling the troops out of Syria, which President Trump has said he's going to do one year will more than pay for five years of space force. What would we have to do to pay for ocasio ios healthcare regime? We would have to double tax, ROY. Seats to the federal government, which by the way, isn't even as simple as doubling the income tax rate. What does the income tax right now, effectively you could be paying forty percent over forty percent in effective taxes when you factor in state and local and all the other stuff, but it's not even that simple because when you raise taxes that high you d you disincentivize people working in the economy you disincentivize production. So just to use an example that she keeps bringing up if you raise the tax rate to seventy percent federal on someone even making ten million dollars. Then you've got to take into effect state and local let's say it raises that to eighty two point seven percent. If you live in New York, why would you ever make more than ten million dollars? Why you would have no incentive to do it? When you know that the vast majority of all that money will be confiscated so two choices you can either hide the money figure out some crafty way to get the money out of the country or heightened some sleight of hand on the accounting books or you just don't do it. Why would I ever work eighty three percent of the year for the federal government ain't going to happen baby? No chance so that that distance. I mean, this is this is also what destroys socialist economies. Is that you you just have no incentive to be productive whatsoever. We are wonderful engine of growth because Americans are productive. But if you start confiscating all are, well, guess what we're not going to be productive at all. Now when you point out these things when you point out mathematical reality to say, nothing of moral realities mathematical realities, political realities of socialism, this is okay as he has best response that she can muster. The criticisms of you is that your math is fuzzy the Washington Post recently warded you four Pinocchio for misstating some statistics about Pentagon spending. If people want to really blow up one figure here or one word there. I would argue that they're missing the forest for the trees, I think that there's a lot of people more concerned about being precisely factually and semantically correct than about being morally right for being factually. Correct. Is important absolutely important. And whenever I make a mistake. I say, okay, this was clumsy. And then I restate what my point was. But it's it's not the same thing as the president lying about immigrants. It's not the same thing at all. Just listen to what she said. She said some people are focused on being factually and semantically correct rather than being morally right now, this is the second trick that socialists, always used that ocasio is using here, which is false dichotomies to create a false couple of choices to be morally. Right requires that, you be correct. She seems not to understand that the words semantics means meaning itself, it means the meaning of words so to be factually rut, correct is to be right. If they're synonymous to be right with regard to the meaning of real things to be morally correct is to be right. It's to be right. With regard to the the meaning of real things that part of what she's doing here. And I think this comes actually out of her and Atta for culture is. She's speaking the truth doesn't matter. I mean there. She is literally saying truth doesn't matter. She says it doesn't. Matter if you are factually, correct as long as you're morally, right? Of course, that sentenced doesn't mean anything that's gobbledygook. It's like saying you don't need to be correct. As long as you're correct rubber. It's all that were Weli and double talk that she has. But I think in her ideology, which is totally relativistic. This is true. You can just say things regardless of what they mean regardless because is as long as it has the intended political affect you've achieved your goal. She doesn't care about saying true things. She doesn't care how she's going to pay for forty trillion dollars. All she cares about is the political affect of her in government taking over health care. She wants to take more power for the government power away from people because she is totally confident. She has the faith in the zeal of a convert for her religion, which is socialism that once the government has all that power. Everything will be fine as long as we don't have all that freedom out there for people to make their own choices as long as we take that back will work out everything in the end that will just be accounting. This is completely morally obtuse this is completely wrong. On. There is right. And there is wrong. There is truth in there is falsehood. Those are real things. They're not relative. They're not subjective construct s-. You know, Ben often has that phrase facts don't care about your feelings. This is the inverse of that this is exactly the opposite. She's saying my feelings don't care about your facts. I don't care if you are factually, correct. And of course, Anderson Cooper was the one who just sort of let her get away with it. And he pushed back very slightly. But he let her get away with it. This is what is so wicked about it. And we'll get to in a minute. How the Vatican was celebrating the sixtieth anniversary of the Cuban communist revolution. How perverse that is many popes have realized how perverse that is socialism is a perversity is it is anti human. And this is what it's all about. It's not just about raising your taxes. It's not just even about taking away your health care choices where your employment choices or your labor choices or whatever. What it's what this is about. Is lies versus reality. It's about that, quote that Democrats always say on the campaign trail, they quote shawl when he says some people see the world as it is and ask why I dream things that never were and ask why not they forget that those words that show a road were in the mouth of the serpent tempting eve in the Gordon from play called back to Methuselah. That's what it boils down to Okaz ios completely right to talk about moral correctness to say, this is not just an issue of physical realities. This is an issue of moral and metaphysical realities. It's true. Socialism is all about morality. It's all about ethics these systems of economies that we're talking about. Ultimately, this is a moral question. This is a religious question. This is an ethical question and socialism is anti-human. It is wrong. It is rotten down to its core. It is a scourge in pest and a plague on humanity, and we should talk about it. In those terms, we will in just a minute, but we do have to cover more of the government. It down because this is this is the big political question that nobody's talking about. Because nobody's feeling dick Durbin major Senate democrat points this out. He says no end in sight for the shutdown from what you're describing it doesn't sound like there is any progress. How close are we to ending the shutdown? Well, I can't say that we're close because the president's made it clear he doesn't care. He's prepared to see a shutdown for months and even said years and reaffirm that before the cameras it was stunning to hear president United States say that about his own government government, we elected him to lead. But that is his position. It's nobody cares. Nobody cares is the issue. That's the big problem. This government shutdown thus far has been a major win for Trump. Don't just take my word for it. Look at the public polling. There was a poll out from Rasmussen which is a right-leaning polling firm, but they they get things. Right. A lot of the time. It showed that only six percent of Americans say that this shutdown has had a major impact on their lives. Now. Of course, nobody watching this show or listening to this show. I bet zero percent of people watching. You're listening say that the shutdown has had a major impact on your lives. Even if you work for the federal government, even if you're a federal employee who's not being paid right now. You know, you're going to get back pay. There's a little bit of a pinch in the short term. And everybody's really sorry for that. Nobody wants people who are working not to be paid. But every everyone knows after every government shutdown the workers get paid. They get paid for all the time that they weren't being paid and actually even employees who called in sick, which is happening to a slightly higher degree right now, even they get paid. So ultimately workers ended up actually usually getting more money because of the shutdown than they would otherwise. But so you see six percent who say that this shutdown has had a major impact on their lives. Twenty one percent say they didn't even know that there's a shutdown going on right now. So more than three times that number of people aren't even aware that there is a shut down because we don't feel it at all. Even the national parks aren't really closing very little is happening right now, you can still go to the airport you can still travel. Everything is going basically, just fine. Now, this isn't going to last forever. Donald Trump has said that he'll let this thing go on for months reading years and because he's pursue. Would this madman strategy in office because he's doing things that seem erratic? He's always keeping his opponents on their toes. Maybe he means maybe he's really willing to do that as you approach tax season. You're going to see two arguments here if the government by some various slim chance were still going if the shutdown we're still going on at that point. Because you've got a lot of Americans who prepay their taxes, and they'll get a refund at tax time. They'll be upset if they don't get it. I for me. I don't do that. I I pay my taxes. When tax time is do I refuse to give the government and advance on on that that's money or much of an advance on the money that I'll owed them when tax time comes around. So actually, I'm all for it. Keep the IRS shut down. I'm going to owed them money. I don't want to pay them their money works for me. But what's going to happen? You've still got a lot of agencies funded for the next month. Even for the next two months. So Trump has a lot of leeway here. You're already starting to see cracks among Democrats Nancy Pelosi says the wall is immoral. Other democrat reps are breaking with her and saying, well, it's not immoral. We all have wolves around our houses. The Vatican has wall around around. It wouldn't say that's a moral. We've every other country has a wall, you wouldn't say that's immoral Democrats ten years ago were voting for ports of the wall. Anyway. So I think you're starting to see a crack there, you're not really seeing a crack from the White House. I think as it stands right now. There's a good chance we win this battle. It won't be the end of the line because with five billion dollars. You're not going to be able to build the whole wall. You're only going to be able to build a part of it. But it looks like it's moving in our direction all of the polling shows that still going, well, I hope President Trump doesn't miss his opportunity here at a certain point. There's poll numbers are going to reverse. But right now things are looking very good. Now. I know I know that you were all you're all waiting with baited breath to hear what I think about the Golden Globes. You watched it didn't you did you you didn't know me neither. That's okay. Watch clips of it. And I've got a novel solution for the awards show problem. We'll also talk about the sixtieth anniversary of. The Cuban revolution. And Ruth Bader Ginsburg who for the first time is missing court oral arguments because of a medical problem. I wonder what that means for twenty nine teen. We will get to it. But I go to daily wire dot com. You have to do it. You have to subscribe, give us your money. Keep me in employment. You know at all times, Ben is waiting outside the door waiting to hand me, my pink slip. If we don't make money from the from the subscribers and viewers. Don't give him the satisfaction. Go to daily wire dot com. It's ten bucks a month one hundred dollars for an annual membership. You got me yet. The Andrew klavan show yet the Ben Shapiro show. You get them at Walsh show. You get another kingdom. You get to ask questions in the mail bag coming up on Thursday. You get to ask questions in backstage, which is happening a lot. Now, you get you get so much you get so much. But this is what matters. This is. What mother FM matters. You know, I'm not good at talking like a leftist. I it doesn't. It sounds weird. When I do it. But get I I want the enthusiasm of it. And and you'll be really enthusiastic about. 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That reminds me, you know, what race of people really gets under my skin and the Hollywood half marathon because it messes up all the traffic. You know, I'll yeah, I hate that race of people. It's the worst race of people. Now, we know and you guys are thinking Andy Sandberg and Sandra, oh that to nicest people in show bizz. This thing's going to be a snoop fast because you fools are all about to get roasted your bass style. Hope you're wearing your flip block Hollywood because we're about to score some earth. Dan, right Griffin. Any alright knew we got we got. Well, if it is equally. Yeah. Mr. do the right. Yeah. Well, tell you does the right thing you as a direct or lifetime ban. Can't wait to see what you do next. Bam bay through tau. So it goes on like this for ten or eleven minutes is they go on the whole joke being here that they can't say anything mean or offensive because they'll lose their entire careers, and Andy Sandberg is actually pretty funny. He is a little hair mess. But he does have a real comic skill Sandra. Oh does not. She isn't funny. She wasn't even funny at this stick. But what's interesting about this? Stick is obviously they're kind of joking about how intense the Hollywood. PC culture has gotten that. They can only say nice things. But then they just only say nice things. So it would if they had joked about that. And then there were some break there were some turn. There were some challenge to that PC culture, which is so unfunny, then I think it would have really worked. But they didn't do that. They just kept saying nice things, which was the most cowardly thing they could have possibly done. They actually had to hide their cowardliness in a joke about how cowardly they were. But then they never broke out of it. So it just remained cowardly the the that is the whole point. They had to have to present. If they only had one presenter, that's too big a target. They had to have a man and a woman if they had two men that will he couldn't do that they had to have them be of different races. If it were to white people that you couldn't possibly do that. And but then they just indulge the whole thing. And then the the the most pathetic part of all of it was they actually turned it. They made an earnest turn at the very end and Sandra. Oh. Gave an impassioned Ernest political speech about what I have no idea. I said yes to the fear of being on the stage tonight because because I wanted to be here to look out into this audience and witness this moment of change. And I'm not willing myself. I'm not willing myself next year could be different if probably will be. But right now this moment is real trust me. It is real. Because I see you. And I see you. All of these faces of change and now, so we'll everyone else. Oh, it's so awkward because they don't I mean this whole stick that Sandra. Who is doing is so poorly performed? I mean, it's so ridiculous. And over the top, and obviously disingenuous that even the audience, they're all of whom have been indoctrinated in the PC culture. They all know how to perform they all know that they're supposed to abide by certain PC worth the dachshunds. They start laughing you hear those years. And I know it's real she's mustering all that fake. All this fake tears. You never see the tears run down her face, obviously. Because she's not a very good actress, she was an ice. And I know it's real because I see you. Why what? Yeah, we're here. We've all we've been here. Yeah. We're here last year too. And so a couple of people more than a couple of people in the audience start laughing. But then they cut it off really quickly. Because no she is performing. She's people do this on stage. Sometimes they and women do it, obviously more than men do they muster up this like fake crying emotional thing. And it just is really pathetic. I mean, this was really really sad. What is she referring to you? She said changes here. There's she referring to the sexual assault stuff. How every every one of these Hollywood degenerates is raping everybody else's that which is. But there's changed now because we're wearing buttons on our lapels and there's change because we have we have bracelets on our wrist about times up. And so it's changed now is that what you referring to racial questions that certain races weren't being cast a lot in Hollywood. And now they're being cast a little more is it race. Or is it or is it about the? Hosts of Wim multiple hosts, or why do what watching this all I could think of was one of the greatest PSA's that has ever been aired the satirical PSA. It was put up by click hole to take the pledge. I've always wanted to be part of something bigger than myself to make a difference, you go through life, and you see all this injustice, but you never really anything about it. You don't know how to little kids. So I'm always thinking about the future. Every solution begins with just one person stepping up and taking responsibility. That's why I'm taking the pledge. I'm the pledge you because care about my community for kids. You for me for us for them. And for me too because I care about the future and not just my future. But the future of everyone every single person baby boy's taking the pledge us about standing up for what matters, right? It doesn't matter. If you're black white Muslim, Christian Jewish. Anyone can take the pledge brother to take place, June T got his friend to do it. I got a three one in my school to tape. You get her to take the pledge, and she gets them announce to get someone else on and on and on and suddenly we've got some much bigger. Take the pledge Golden Globes go out there and take the pledge. This isn't just bad for comedy. When when they tried to do this earnestly. This is also I mean, this leads to terrible leftist politics, it points out something that I try to notice this about the particularly hipster millennials. But this is true of the left broadly. There is a culture. Now that's taken over comedy for the last thirty years, probably which is Iranian. Now. All of comedy is centered around irony before it wasn't centered around irony and specifically ironic apathy that we're all just everything's just to be debunked deconstructed and everything's really lame and a really super cool. And I don't care. I don't mind I don't need to be excited. And I'm doesn't matter. I'm just apathetic. And everything's totally ironic that culture of comedy has been around since it, let's at least Letterman, and he's sort of heralded that change and sometimes it's funny. Sometimes it's not. But the thing with irony if you live your life entire. Early. Ironically, hipsters getting stupid tattoos because they look stupid. Ironically, getting certain tattoos, the thing with irony is that if you live your life entirely, ironically, then there's no such thing as irony then you're doing earnestly, if you tell these jokes the jokes about how we have to only say nice things about everyone at the Golden Globes. And then that's all you do. It's no longer ironic, you're doing earnestly, and this is true. Even of these, you know, every award show has awful political speeches nowadays over the last fifteen years and Christian bale gave a a truly ridiculous one last night too. That Geezer over there, Adam he say. He's gonna find somebody. You can can be absolute charisma-free and reviled by revolting. So he went Lasko be fail in. You know? Thank you thrill. The competition will be Kohner in the mouth on charisma for. What do you think Mitch McConnell next? Good. Thank you to Satan to give me Brian on how to play this role. Some people are confused hearing that because we never hear Christian bale with his actual accent, Christian bale is English. He was raised in Wales to English parents. And so that's Israel accent? And he's talking about playing Dick Cheney in the movie vice and he's calling him a charisma-free blankety blank. And he thanks Satan forgiving him inspiration to play the role something I just want to point out here in a word shows when you won Oscar Golden Globe you used to. Thank God you used to get up there. I want to thank my friends, and my family my directors on thank God for for being there. And sustaining me inspiring me. Now, you think now these people are thanking Satan, and you might say, well, he was telling a joke. Well, it's ironic. Well, it's I read this and right if you live, I honestly one hundred percent of the time than the irony isn't. Eragny any more. It's earnest, and this guy is actually getting up there and thanking Satan, you know, something has gone seriously wrong with these awards shows when you get up there and thanks Satan, by the way, just a little point on Christian bale, Christian bale was arrested in two thousand eight for domestic violence against his mother and sister, and he's going after Dick Cheney as this charisma-free blankety blank whose inspired by Satan. Maybe one should look in the mirror, maybe Mr. bail should pluck the plank out of his own eye before looking at the spec in his neighbors. I but unsurprisingly an early ratings right now, the Golden Globes show was down to a four year low maybe a decade low was down over last year. The ratings are plummeting for these awards shows and their plummeting, especially for the Oscars. You remember that blow up they've chose Kevin Hart the comedian to host the Oscars then they found that he made a gay joke ten years ago. So there was this big fake faux outrage uproar, huge Nonthaburi and the academy pre basically sold them out. And Kevin Hart decided he wasn't going to host the Oscars. Anymore? Now, they're in a bind because there's no one to host the Oscars, if the new standard is that you if you've ever told a gay joke, you can't host the Oscars, then no comedian ever can host the Oscars and beyond that no human being walking on this earth can host the Oscars. Everybody has told a gay joke. Everybody's heard a gay joke. Everybody's laughed at a gay joke. And if you say that you haven't you're lying, Ellen Degeneres. I'm certain has told him any gay jokes in her life. And she had Kevin Hart on to basically ask him on behalf of the academy to come back and host the Oscars year. She is begging. I I called the academy today because I really want you to host the Oscars. I think that I was so excited when I heard that they asked you I thought it was an amazing thing. I knew how important it was. And how it was dream. So I called them. I said cabins on. I have no idea if he wants to come back and host, but what are your thoughts? And they were like, oh my God. We we want him to host. We feel like that. Maybe he misunderstood it was handled wrong. Or maybe we said the wrong thing. But we. Want him to host what whatever we can do. We would be thrilled. And he could host. I mean, I I mean, the the academy is saying what can we do to make this happen? You bet they are. Because now they're up a certain creek without a paddle. And they've got no one that they can possibly use have a novel bit of advice for this award show problem. This is my advice to the kademi. If you're watching let Oskar die put him out of his misery, stop, airing it this. This has been building for very long time. The word show is insufferable. That's why nobody is watching the Oscars ratings were to forty four year low last year. And that was a twenty percent drop over the previous year. It is dying. It is dead. The reason it is dead is not because it had to die. But because there's awful people in the academy have made it di-. They've made it all about politics. They've made it all about leftist politics and also because the movie business is dead. The movies that win awards at the Oscars. Nobody has ever seen the movies that people go and see the three movies a year all of which are superhero movies or not winning Oscars. And they. Don't deserve to win Oscars because they're not very good movies. So it's it's dead. It's over kill it move on stop trying to resuscitate zombie of Oscar. He was glorious in his day the American film industry was glorious in its day. And now, it's dead and you killed it. You should look in the mirror and feel deep. Shame about that. And then move on because it's over the Cuban revolution. I have to get to this. It's the sixtieth anniversary of the Cuban revolution. And the the Vatican of all places. The Vatican news service honored that Cuban revolution. Sent data posted said quote, Cuban revolution celebrated its sixtieth anniversary this January first twenty nineteen on the island. The historic bursary was celebrated with a ceremony in Santiago de Kuba in the cemetery of Santa if Geneva where Fidel Castro is buried who died November twenty fifth twenty sixteen to the main national forces the dictator Fulgencio Batista fled on twenty six months of guerrilla war led by brothers. Fidel. Enroll castro. Fidel Castro proclaimed, the beginning of the revolution. The victory of the counterculture. It is celebrating. This is the Vatican news service speaking for the Vatican is celebrating the Cuban revolution. This is awful. This is horrific, thankfully, they took down that post the church needs to stop this. The church needs to stop playing footsie with socialists. The pope has done it. The Vatican has done it in recent years. This is a major break with the church history. This is a major break with the the spirit of Christianity. It's wrong. It's anti-human and they need to stop doing. It broadly Protestant churches as well. Need to stop doing this? There is a sense now pushed by hippy dippy left-wingers that Jesus was just a really nice hippie socialist. And we've all perverted his message because he was such a socialist. This is not true. Just a few statistics on the Cuban revolution sixty years later in the last ten years there have been at least eighteen thousand political prisoners in Cuba. It's hard to get accurate. Numbers obviously because it's a totalitarian regime, but that's a good estimate two million Cubans live outside of cue. But because of the hell that the Castros inflicted. I went down to cube. I visited there when it was briefly semi-open, I talked to a lot of Cubans. Let me tell you something. They don't wear shake of aura t shirts in Cuba. They wear American flag sewn onto their clothing and on their bicycles when they can afford them that is the protest because they want freedom. And they hate communism because communism is slavery. And it is truly destroyed that people we know that the Castro regime death toll is estimated between thirty five and one hundred and forty one thousand people we know five thousand people were executed immediately after the Castro takeover to say nothing of the fact that the communist regime in Cuba almost blew up the entire world during the Cuban missile crisis. There's nothing moral about socialism. There's nothing good about socialism. It's awful, it's wicked and it's anti-human by by the way as as the Vatican applauds and celebrates the Cuban revolution. Don't forget that the Cuban revolution. Specifically attacked Christianity. It was an atheistic revolution. A lot of Catholics including Bishop were permanently exiled from the from the country this after the Vatican. And pope Francis has asked earlier in the year, two underground Chinese bishops to step down in favor of government communist party apparatchik bishops, we know that the pope has regularly attacked capitalism and free markets. We need a to counter this. We we finally must counter this as it effects in this case, specifically, the Catholic church, but Protestant churches as well. Socialism is wicked and terrible. And it must be opposed vigorously John Paul the second new this very well in his encyclical phantasm Asano's. He wrote float it would appear that on the level of individual nations and of international relations, the free market is the most efficient instrument for utilizing resources and effectively responding to needs a pope before him. Leo, the thirteenth also wrote even more clearly about socialism, he referred to socialists as a wicked confess. Dre he referred to them as a pest an evil growth. He said socialists, steal the very gospel itself with a view to deceive more easily the unwary he called it a plague. That's exactly what it is. That's what we should call it. When we talk about the sixtieth anniversary of the Cuban revolution. That's how we should talk about it. When we respond to Alexandria, Kazuo, Cortez, another young attractive, very likable woman who's trying to push this plague in this pest and this wicked evil growth on humanity. Again, this old decrepit awful idea that will not die. We need to fight. It. We need to fight it in the strongest terms, and we should give no quarter to people who are trying constantly to resuscitate that awful zombie plague. All right. That's our show. We've run out of time. We'll get to more tomorrow. In the meantime, I'm Michael Knowles. This is the Michael Knowles show. I'll see you soon. The Michael Knowles show is produced by Robert Stirling, executive producer, Jeremy boring, senior producer Jonathan. Hey. 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House kills impeachment resolution, Trump declares victory; Trump holding 2020 rally amid outrage over racist remarks; Sanders fires back at rivals, defends Medicare for all

Erin Burnett OutFront

43:25 min | 1 year ago

House kills impeachment resolution, Trump declares victory; Trump holding 2020 rally amid outrage over racist remarks; Sanders fires back at rivals, defends Medicare for all

"It's an age of your seat. Thrill ride that will change overseas forever. The movies Sundays Nine P._M.. On C._N._N.. Tired of spending hundreds of dollars for prescription glasses visits any today at Xeni Dot dot com slash C._N._N.. Breaking news more than forty percents of Democrats going against Pelosi swishes voting to keep alive resolution to impeach President Trump Speaker Pelosi keeper party and check President Trump claims he's enjoying the fight over his racist tweets showing no signs of leading up the attacks so how his supporters feel tonight and Bernie Sanders fighting back against his twenty twenty rivals over health care to sanders plan to pay for his Medicare for all proposal at <hes>. Let's go out on good evening. I'm Erin Burnett out front tonight. The breaking news the House of Representatives rejecting bid to launch impeachment proceedings against president trump and president trump declaring victory telling reporters seconds ago quote. We've just received an overwhelming wing vote against impeachment and that's the end of it. He went on to call it. The quote most ridiculous project. I didn't high now over how the whole saga over his racist tweets is playing out. Do you think you're winning this political fights. I do think I'm wondering into political. I think I'm willing to get by a lot and at least by one measure he is right because even a majority of Democrats voted against Impeachment Democrat Al Green Ending Around Speaker Nancy Pelosi to force the vote his his resolution was specifically to move ahead on impeachment because of the president's tweets not because of obstruction of justice or anything related to the Muller report. No the tweets and this vote highlighted the growing schism in the Democratic Party Speaker Nancy Anti Pelosi making it clear. She thinks that this was a big waste of time. Do you have any concerns that the focus on impeachment today and the votes on the floor related to could jeopardize Robert Muller's appearance next week. No I think people get rid of all this right now. Pretty dismissive get rid of all this right now what she did get rid of it okay. She wants the focus to be on molars upcoming testimony and is four hundred forty eight page report right. She was victorious in the vote but tonight's vote did show a growing number of Democrats. Do not like how Pelosi is handling impeachment. They're getting restless and this wing now seems intent on ignoring speaker Pelosi's commands even though Pelosi insists that going for impeachment is playing into trump's trump's hands. Don't tell anybody I told you this trump I use his name. Trump is coding a student teaching. That's what he's doing every single day he's just like taunting taunting taunting because he knows that it would be very divisive in the country but he doesn't really care just wants to solidify his the president upping his incendiary rhetoric tonight against the four democratic congresswoman as this continues just listen to him before leaving for a rally tonight North Carolina when you look at some of the things they said there unthinkable if somebody else or me or anybody else said things like that <hes> it would be historic so look the president doubling down tripling down and sending more and more Democrats to take on Speaker Pelosi forcing her to try stuff the impeachment genie back into the bottle Maharaja was out front live on Capitol Hill and my new look this is vote. She didn't want to have happened. It has now put a lot of Democrats in a very tough position tonight. Yeah that's right and a lot of Democrats did not want to go this route because they wanted to wait for the mother hearing take place I even supporters of opening up an impeachment inquiry. We're not comfortable and actually did not support. Ultimately voting for this impeachment articles of impeachment that was focused on the notion of the president is a racist not even do with the allegations of obstruction of justice laid out in the muller pro but Al Green who's a Democrat pushed US measure defended. This effort told me just moments go. This is the right thing to do Aaron. He also told me that he's not done pushing this measure. He said that if saved he's not asked him if he's willing to do it again he said I want. I don't want to do it again. I hope someone else will do it but no one else does it. Then I will and under the rules any member can force of vote despite despite the wishes of Nancy Pelosi now green defied the speaker and pushing forward in this and green sees a quote positive development. He told me he's not concern of the president is portraying this big political victory because he says that more and more people bulls are starting to understand the process ninety. Five Democrats did vote for this resolution that is more than the amount of Democrats voted twenty seventeen and twenty eighteen for impeachment articles of impeachment and that time fifty eight and twenty seventeen sixty six and twenty eighteen eighteen Democrats voted to keep alive and impeachment resolution so the proponents are pushing one way to be forced to houses hand articles of Impeachment Nancy Pelosi saying let's do something else investigate this presidency what we turn up put the breaks on the calls for impeachment all the while people like Jerry now the House Judiciary Committee Charon chairman who has privately called for an impeachment inquiry continued to call for that impeachment inquiry for the moment right now Democrats continuing to do a Pelosi once even as the number of Democrats have growing number of Democrats want to open up formal impeachment proceedings and they are obviously she's trying to hold the line here but she shutting support and you can hear the president's celebrating that Mahu thank you very much and I want to go now to Democratic Congressman Dan Kildee guilty chief deputy whip of the House Democratic Caucus and I appreciate your time congressman so look you voted. I understand to go ahead with the impeachment proceedings against what UH Speaker Pelosi wanted why well first of all I think the president should be subject to impeachment inquiry. I will say this the position that many members took was a little more nuance than as people might think many of the members like me who support an impeachment inquiry did not vote with did not oppose does the tabling motion because they didn't like this particular approach and I sort of share that I think what Mr Green going ahead with impeachment for as racism as the reason my view was that this this resolution should have been referred to the judiciary committee rather than simply a table but but I share the view that many of my colleagues share that this is not the approach that we should take. I don't think one member using the privileges of the house should impose rose a set of impeachment articles on everyone else and ask for yes or no vote but having said that we don't get to vote with footnotes we have to vote yes or no red or green in my view I would have preferred to see this resolution referred referred to the judiciary committee so that we can commence an impeachment inquiry and then open up much more significant misdeeds by the president those I understand so you're saying okay because of the Mullahs reporter obstruction of justice. That's that's where you see the reason for impeachment so you've okay even though you don't support algorithms reason for impeachment but I just want to be clear Congressman Kelly. Do you think fundamentally president trump could be impeached for being racist. No I mean I think we can object to that racism and we took a very strong stand on yesterday but I think if we're going down the path of impeachment which I support it should be for these very clear violations that we see the report okay so Al Green as as you heard just spoke to mano a few moments ago and one of the thinks he said Congressman Kennedy was quote in my opinion. We've got ninety five votes this time sixty six the lifetime so that's a plus. Does he have a point. I mean speaker. Pelosi wanted this to fail and yet the numbers keep going in the other direction and I know you're saying a lot of people had different reasons for getting there but a heck of a lot more people are getting there as in yes on impeachment proceedings guilty then then a year ago or before that so is she losing support well. I don't really see this as being something for against what the speaker you're re is looking for. We all have to think for ourselves and in particular case like this we have to make our own judgments but put it this way support for an impeachment inquiry is clearly growing in support. There are many members who did not vote against the tabling motion who support impeachment so the number is grown much more than from just sixty six to the ninety five. I think is really significant support to go down this path. A lawmaker who is inside of House House Democrats Meeting Today <hes> told Dana Bash that there was a discussion on internal polling among Democrats and the message was <hes> you know the the impeachment thing is not working <hes> there. There's frustration. There's frustration with the four democratic congresswoman who <hes> food in the meeting was the perception they're sort of pulling the party in this direction but they're saying look the internal polling shows that that that is not what voters overwhelmingly want they wanna focus on infrastructure and other things. Are you concerned and are you concerned <hes> that the squad or others <music> are pulling your party too far down the impeachment hall well. I think we actually have to be able to do more than one at a time and this is why I think getting the judiciary committee moving on an inquiry would free the committees that have jurisdiction over infrastructure over for healthcare to really focus on that agenda I think we I think that concern is legitimate and when we go to the American people during the recess we have to be able to talk about the issues that affect them at the kitchen table every single day but that does not mean we get a to ignore our constitutional obligation and I don't think we should poll test the constitution. We have an obligation to follow it in this case. I think it is taking us to a place where we have to enforce the constitution on this president whether it polls well or not so as I mentioned the president's very clear this is a win for him tonight the vote as he sees it and this entire portfolio with four congresswoman is a boon for him. Here's what he said today. I do think I'm wanting to political but I think I'm willing to get by a lot. The Democratic Radic Party is really going in a direction that nobody thought possible. They're going so far left. They're gonNA fall off a cliff. Do you have concern about that. Look <hes> no I don't we have an agenda that's very clear around healthcare around growing wages around cleaning up government that we continue to pursue. That's what the American people want but if anyone that I'm going to take political advice from it's a very long list and at the very end of that list as Donald Trump look. He's just not a credible. Only by observer of what's happening in American politics it's kind of a strange thing to say about the president of the United States but I just listen to what he says that often anymore. I appreciate your time. Thank you very much sir. Thank you and next president trump trump about to speak at that rally in North Carolina it is a must win state for him and he's putting time in we'll give him the edge in twenty twenty plus. The Battle Line's drawn over healthcare Bernie Sanders taking on his critics unafraid. Do voters really want what sanders is selling and Ban Jones tonight goes to the crucial state of Pennsylvania to find out what voters think about trump's racists tweets and what van has found the past day is going to surprise you guys are terrible taking care of their health. Whether it's a knee injury bad back or something worse guys usually more comfortable rubbing some dirt on it than seeing a doctor. I'm guilty of it myself. 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GET ROMAN DOT com slash out front looking at live pictures out of North Carolina President trump about to speak at a campaign rally for its twenty twenty reelection bid. You see the vice president there speaking trump about to take that podium odeum as he continues to defend attacks on formed democratic congresswoman of color denies relishing the entire feud and I'm not relishing the fight. I'm enjoying it because I have to get the word out to the American people defoe and you have to enjoy what you do you enjoy what I do. That's not where country wants to be. We're not going to go and we're not going to be a socialist country. It's not going to happen I guess enjoying relishing or perhaps not exact synonyms kaitlan collins out in front of the rally in Greenville Caitlyn. Look you have spent some time today talking to the people the people who are there who waited in line to hear this president his supporters. How do they feel about his tax on the Democratic congresswoman ten of the president's supporters here in the arena tonight people have been waiting hours the president and you really saw what a divider is between Washington here over that reaction to the president's tweets on Sunday where he told hold those democratic congresswoman to go back where they came from even though most of them reporting the United States and Brickley a lot of the president's supporters that we spoke with that they did not tax racist actually the president and his sentiment demand that if you don't love the United States you go home even when they were faced with what those women had said that interview which is what they did love the country they were just trying to make changes what you essentially saw them saying actually no they think it's congresswomen who were the racist now they support how he came out of all of that but Aaron of course we should note that these are supporters of the president and there was a big in Washington between Democrats and Republicans and the White House over the reaction to the president? It's comment but the real question what the campaign is going to be looking for is held us more moderate or undecided voters react to the president's comments right. Thank you very much Caitlyn college there of course as you can hear the president taking the stage out front now Scott Jennings thanks who was a special assistant to President George W Bush and former senior spokesperson for Hillary for America Karen Finney so carrying you heard Caitlyn <hes> look you know his people who go to his rallies or going to support what he says sure but if the president strategy was to use these attacks not just because they're going to agree with him but energize then to get them ready to go turn out and vote for him it clearly appears to be working well absolutely and we knew all along that this was going to be his strategy from twenty for twenty twenty. It's exactly what he did in two thousand sixteen where he mainstream the outright from the beginning <hes> which is part of this sort of very far right dangerous kind of hyperbolic rhetoric and the thing is though these four women represent change in America they represent very different communities different parts of our country like myself. We are just as American as anybody else but we have different types of American stories but we're all part of the American story. That's not the vision that trump is putting forward his this vision says those people you should be afraid of because they're going to take away everything you love. They're gonNA take away jobs they're going to do you know they're violent. There you know murderers and what have you and so of course it is in his interest to stoke that backup up stoke up that hate stoke up that rage and I gotta tell you on some of this. I'm not surprised because on number of those the trump supporters it's kind of already baked in. They don't know what it's like to be a black person in America and get told to your face as a six year old go back to Africa so so he knew what he exactly what he was doing each took the political opportunity and here we are Scott. I mean you know whether it works or not and clearly if the goal is to motivate his base at least right now in the short timeframe it is working. Are you comfortable with him. Um You know telling you know people of Color Brown and black to go back where they came from to the country they came from when they're born here. In the United States of America what I think the president is doing is trying to take the attention off the presidential candidates and put the attention on people in the Democratic Party that he thinks are going to give him the brightest line between his message and what he wants to run a guest host yeah he wants to run against the socialist the radical change you know the the the policies that the four women represent he thinks this gives him the best chance to not just hold his base together. We talked a lot about the base but for the people who you know maybe our little bit centre-right that maybe they stuck with them last time. Maybe they didn't but maybe they're not comfortable such radical economic change in the country. I think making them in look. What's happened this week? Where Comma Harris where's Joe Biden whereas Mayor Pete they're not on T._v.? The people who were on T._v. this week well are the squad and Nancy Pelosi. WHO's trying to hold them back and so so that's that's frankly a battle okay? That's an interesting point and Karen to that point right that he's trying to say they're going so far left. They're going off a cliff and trying to define the party by those four congresswoman as opposed to by the people who are running for president here is one of them one of the four women Yana Presley this morning talking about President trump here she is we can talk about in spin out on Hayes about hateful words age which are predictable prompt by the occupant of this White House and I call him that not because I don't have respect for the Oval Office but respect for the Oval Office when the President of the United States the occupant because he is only occupying the space he does not embody the principles the responsibility the grace the integrity of a true president so so Karen. Is that a problem too you have someone saying I won't even call president trump the president no not at all frankly a lot of Americans have done that from day one frankly and unfortunately time and time again this president has shown a real lack of understanding of grace of appreciation and respect for the office of the President So do you think Democrats want to be defined by by by people who hold public office who refused to call the president the president is that they want to be defined by but that's not who were defined signed by that is a narrative. That's not who were defined by. I mean the president doesn't get to decide who defines the Democratic Party me you know Dan Kildee who you just had on is part of the Democratic Party. John Lewis is part of the Democratic Party mean these four women represent a part of the party and I think we also remember what he's doing. Remember that Johan Omar when it she didn't realize what she had said was a racist trope and anti Semitic trope when she realized that she apologize we've never heard that from president trump and the other issues that these women are working on gun safety measures think people with credit card issues. My point is you can't just cherry pick what the what who they are and what they're about and say Thou parties. I hear you. I hear you but I have to say if you're GONNA come out and say you won't call the president the president and you can say a whole lot of really substantive thoughtful. Things and people are going to hear that louder than anything else they just are. We all know that and Scott you smile because that is mono- to the Republican ears certainly to this president ears absolutely look when Barack Obama was president and I called him President Obama. I'll call Nancy Pelosi Speaker Pelosi. I call me old-fashioned but I tend to respect people who've won elections and who have been bestowed these responsibilities but if you want to roll that beautiful bean footage and let them fight over whether we're GONNA call Donald trump the president president or not that's fine because that's not gonna sound reasonable to the average American voter and Middle America and remember all Donald Trump has to do is win the states he won last time and can even lose a couple of pain the white I'm not point and that point. I WANNA ask both you about this because he is focusing like delays on states he won but barely so right Karen. I mean ones that are just so close. He's named dropping these swing states every single time he can to say. Look I care about them. Campaign rallies like the one he's at right now. He is making sure everybody knows what he's focused on right. You know look a- and here's the problem trump has not in any way shape or form grown his electric grown his base right when the way you win elections in this country you have to figure out who who are your voters and then you gotta usually grow that electric. If anything and we talked talked about this with Caitlin he's probably shrinking because we know those independence and those Republicans who last time we're kind of fifty fifty not sure now they know Kellyanne Conway likes to say what offends me is not what affects me and that's kind of their that was their strategy around some of the offensive things that trump would say I think the difference this time is that people understand that it does affect you if the president creates a divisive climate in this country or you know is at war with our our NATO in our friends. So I think it's going to be different this time Scott. Let me just play him because I want everyone to hear it Michigan Ohio Pennsylvania North Carolina South Carolina Florida Florida North North Carolina South Carolina Ohio Ohio Pennsylvania to North Carolina South Carolina Florida and what's the name this special place. It's called Wisconsin Wisconsin. That's where he's going to spend all this time Scott literally just keep saying again and again and do those states yeah absolutely look all he has to do is win what he won and he can even lose a couple of them in still hold the White House. I don't necessarily agree that he's actually has is a shrunken base from last time. If you look at some of the polling that's come out recently. He had his highest number ever in the A._B._C.. News Washington Post poll just a few days ago so actually think he's right to strategize on <hes> focusing on the coalition of states that delivered him the White House thousand again. It's on Democrats to take the states away and he can lose a couple instill win. He made he may lose one or two of them but that won't take the White House away. I would expect him to campaign. In these close states. Look North Carolina's going to be a close state and I'm ladies there tonight all right thank you both very much and then Bernie any sanders saying his healthcare plan could end up costing forty trillion dollars so you gotta give the Guy Credit Putting a massive number out there but the big question is how is he going to pay for it was van Jones traveling to Pennsylvania and he's talking with Americans who say they're standing by trump despite the racist attacks. Do you like a young led do with tattoos and stuff. Why are you support Donald Trump giving some of his racially inflammatory rhetoric remember to create an ad like this one visit pure winning dot com slash C._N._N.? Tonight the fight for twenty twenty Bernie Sanders firing back against Democratic candidates criticizing his Medicare for all plan now here over and over again again from political opponents from the industry. It can't be done. Please do not tell me that fifty five years later with all of the technology that we have that we cannot simply over a four year period expand a successful program that is fifty five years old front now the senior advisor to the Bernie Sanders Campaign Jeff Weaver Jeff good to talk to you again so look Bernie Sanders. I gave them a lot of credit because he comes out with a big idea and he comes out with a big price tag and he's not afraid or trying to obfuscate a beat around the Bush about it. Okay so you guys have acknowledged. This is GONNA cost a lot of money. Sanders himself told The Washington Post that it's going to cost up to forty trillion dollars which double the size of the entire American economy so Joe Biden's plan is like I don't even know not seven hundred and fifty billion dollars over a decade so we are totally totally different things so we'll pass planners over a decade to okay the cellular okay. How do you sell voters on this well? How you saw voters on this Erin is we're going to do away? We already paid the money that we're talking about for this program. We already pay you pay for in your taxes for public employees in for Medicare you you paid premiums you pay and copayments you pay for it in las wages because your employer is paying some of your healthcare costs. We're going to aggregate that money and when you do that that allows you to a few things first of all you can drive down the cost of prescription drugs by fifty percent in this country by price on the way they are our price in other countries for the same product from the same factories you can also eliminate all of the bureaucracy and waste of millions of dollars in c o Con <hes> compensation packages at private health insurers all the bureaucracy. That's created to keep you from getting the healthcare that you've paid for you. Aggregate that money and you can provide healthcare to every person in this country comprehensive healthcare for less than we're spending now. We're GONNA save two to five trillion dollars. The question is not how can you afford this. How can you afford what we're going to have otherwise is and every other candidate whether it's Joe Biden or Kamala Harris or anybody else they just want to throw more money into this problem without dealing with the structural dysfunction in the healthcare system? I I just you know look I. I understand what you're saying and you gotta think big but I mean you just take companies one little thing they use your said they're Jeffrey. They just got big tax cut and we were told that that was gonna go into wages and it didn't so now it's saying they're going to save money on healthcare and that's going to go into higher wages. Call me dubious well. There are ways enforce that let's be clear right if that's your interests the truth matters is that the Republican tax bill was always designed to be a giveaway too big corporations into wealthy. People trump has really interested in working class people getting a wage increase. Let's be clear about that all right so Kamala Harris has said that as part of her Medicare for all plan. There's going to be no middle class plus tax hike and I understand you're saying okay. There might be but it's going to get to you're going to save money and other ways so it's not really that but she's saying absolutely not. She spoke exclusively last night. Talk Hang on this show and here's what she said. Senator Sanders says that that is impossible able to achieve without a middle class tax hike. I'm not prepared to engage in the middle class tax hike the rules have been written against middle class in working families for far too long and it is not necessary that they'd be taxed even more. What do you say to Kamala Harris? Well what I say Tacoma Harris's the average American family is going to be saving three thousand dollars a year in total healthcare expenditures Aaron if you if you pay two hundred for your electric bill and I cannot provide it to you for one fifty might taxing you one fifty what I've just saved do fifty dollars. The tax increase is going to be less than the savings absolutely cash absolutely and the reason the reason for that is we're ringing out all of this fraud and waste and abuse that is driven by the fact you have a healthcare financing system and we're not talking about this is a healthcare insurance program National Healthcare Insurance Program. This program is going to do away with the bureaucracy and all of the <hes> overpayment of to Dr not to doctors to <hes> health executives and to a pharmaceutical company executive. That's what we gotta ring out of this system. Actually we're GONNA be able to pay healthcare. Providers better frankly all right so emory university chair of Health Policy Kenneth Thorpe says the tax hikes are going to be enormous he was saying you're GONNA have sales tax increases <hes> to get to your thirty to forty trillion trillion dollars. People on Medicare and Medicaid are GONNA stay more in taxes than their current premiums small business owners currently not paying premiums are going to start paying more on the list went on and on and on even a conservative economic think-tank who's analyze medicare for all says the country will spend and less on healthcare under Medicare for all then if we don't go in that direction so the economics of this are quite clear. The question is do people have and why did you say there's a cost of forty trillion and I'm just trying to get around and even politically right if you're saying we're going to save money. Why is the number? You're acknowledging that it's GONNA cost forty trillion. You should be putting out. It's going to say five trillion well. We were that number out. You know that's not the number that folks choose to highlight our opponents. What they want to say is that this is a big increase in spending and I'm just saying Sanders did tell the Washington Post costs up to forty trillion dollars himself said the best of course as a federal expenditure but in terms of national expenditure on healthcare it will actually be less than we will spend otherwise they savings for the economy jeff before we go our new C._N._N.? Poll of New Hampshire Shows Joe Biden at Twenty Four Percent Warren Bernie Sanders both at nineteen percent so within the margin of error for Joe Biden combined win this race by trying to divide and conquer between Your candidate and Senator Warren No. I don't think that he can frankly and I'll and I'll tell you why when you look analyze all the public polling and obviously a bunch of us have private bowling as well <hes> Bernie Sanders Coalition of voters <hes> is <hes> much more diverse event Elizabeth Warren and as much more working class <hes> and he can put together that type of coalition which is unique. We're going to bring in a lot more of voters this time <hes> that are not being screened out in these polls the way we did last time when we brought out an additional fifty five thousand people in Iowa over what was expected <hes> by the pollsters so you know Bernie Sanders appeals to a lot of folks who aren't usually counted usually count it out and left out and that's what this campaign is going to on the ground in Hampshire in Iowa and other places. Definitely I appreciate your time. Thanks thank you glad to be here and next Van Jones travels to the key state of Pennsylvania talking to voters voters who voted for trump and what now could what he found spell trouble for trump for a lot of my friends that are black conservatives. <hes> a lot of them have <hes> jumped off the trump train us. We now know who is in and WHO's out when it comes to C._N._N.'s upcoming democratic debate the right sheets can take your sleep and your style to the next level with Bollandbranch. 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To tonight the battle for Pennsylvania so it's a must-win right president trump one Pennsylvania by less than a percentage point last time around and look gotta pull it off this time pretty much almost for sure so how voters there feel about him right now and those races tweets Van Jones was just there today this morning and he found out so hands who voted for Donald Trump in two thousand sixteen raise your hand too so let me focus on you to are you planning to vote for Donald Trump in twenty twenty well. I haven't made up my mind and yet none of them. A nod I am leaning more towards them and then the other candidates right now <hes> the economic situation from me and my business is going very well so economics is a big important issue and what about are you. I am all this kind of this far left. Talk is kind of scaring me when it comes to the border so let's just often in a room you like a young Ledoux tattoos and stuff. Why are you support? Donald Trump give racially racially inflammatory rhetoric yeah. Why thinks look I mean I was raised in a conservative family and I'm in business? I'm business consultant and businesses great. I don't WanNa lose that you know and I know that you know a lot of the the rhetoric that comes out of the White House off twitter is concerning but putting personal feelings aside. I think that we're having a great economic boom. I mean people are risking their lives to come here how. Any size up this whole thing where he we're president. Trump comes out and says to these women go back to you whatever country you came from a man in desperation. He's desperate to be president the only person he cares there's about himself. He wrote in on the coattails of Obama. If you think it was any other thing you know you believe in Easter Bunny and Santa Claus. That's the way I see it. I don't believe in Easter Bunny a Santa Claus. Almost everyone has a story worry of being told go back to your country and I think that it's kind of like one of the oldest trick than the book. If it comes to freeze ideology maybe outside of the N. Word that that comes to mind when you're talking about racist I language people when I moved into Pennsylvania said Oh you're a New Yorker. We'll let you go back to New York where you belong. Those are just human emotion. Remarks and people are frustrated and they are frustrated. He's frustrated from the very beginning. They UH attacked him his family his wife his kids. It's disgusting. It really is just go back to values I value treating people with dignity and if there's anything that is incongruent with those values then I'm not for that and so I'm not gonNA put profit over my values you put in your profit over your values. That will look. I think I think that this this go back. Comment hit hit a lot of us that support him hit a lot of the gut and I think that the president is putting a lot of us in a very precarious situation I think the president has a base and he has a far right-wing base and there's a lot of white nationalists racists a lot of anti-semites in that base so what I'm going to do is I am going to have a P._R.. Strategy that is going to row up the base and so I feel like a lot of his feel like wow like where where do we we fit in anymore do we are we still welcome in this movement or we people have college to welcome so a lot of us are are still reeling from that comment and I'll tell you a lot of my friends that are black conservatives. <hes> a lot of them have jumped. I'M DONALD TRUMP train. <hes> they've gone over to Camel Harris's side. They've they've got involved in her campaign and also Joe Biden's certainly here in the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania that was an incredible conversation so so he saying a lot of his friends have gotten enough not just conservative onto not not just off the trump team but onto someone else's trained things but amazing that he's saying I'm not sure if I'm welcome here and if anyone of color is welcome but he's still voting for him. As of now I mean I don't I think I understood until I got there. The way this thing has landed like a bomb this for those kinds of trump voters trump who basically I'm a business guy. My businesses going great. I don't want to change. I'm scared to go economic. The guy wasn't economic guy but I'm African American and you know this last round has pushed some of his fellow black and services away and so I think we've got a lot going on here in swing states. I want to go back. I related to especially so that other guys said Oh. I was told to go back to New York. which you know doesn't understand all right? Thank you very much van and you can see more conversation on the Van Jones show Saturday at seven o'clock and next center Kamala Harris surging in her home state of California so could this trouble for Joe Biden plus genius trump's go to line when it comes to at least a few of his favorite things plus tonight. It's a very special night in our nation and frankly much bigger than the entire world history fifty years ago that during this hour the astronauts you're not too soon to be the first people to walk on the surface of the moon began their first color telecasts from space. Here's outs captured in our film Apollo Eleven Goldstone reports. They're receiving T._v.. From this confirm that one hundred thirty mile sports got up in a main meals and then academy in but the camera word now heading any bank me nervous Arabicon thing we did be with US sixty one. We do happy N._p._R.. Plenty of room for Apollo Eleven News presently one hundred thirty one thousand nautical miles from Earth space craft slowly rotates to maintain the thermal balance like Mike. We got a good P._p.. Going at a good night from the white team okay okay Anamar in the morning all of it at Monacans upon every year over six hundred thousand people enter prison-gates in American go behind the numbers of mass incarceration in America with me Van Jones on my new podcast incarceration INC binge the entire season of incarceration INC now at Apple podcasts brought to you by Ziprecruiter Start Your free trial well today at Ziprecruiter Dot com slash van Jones Ziprecruiter the smartest way to hire the C._N._n.. Debates are just two weeks away and now we know who made the cut the D._n._c. confirming just read it really really fast people. There's twenty of them still taking the debate stage. The new face that was the Montana Governor Steve Bullock will take Eric's while while spot because swallow got out of the race out Front Patrick Healey New York Times politics editor and C._N._N.. Political analysts that I leave it up enough read every okay look. There's still a lot of people on the debate and it's going a start up pretty soon after that. I'm going to thin out a little bit okay. So who are you watching the closest for this one. It's definitely going to be Joe. Biden and Kamala Harris Man I think they created the big change dynamic in the last debate biden because he it didn't seem to know or sort of grapple with how to respond to Kamala Harris and Harris because the reality is she had a one very scripted. Well rehearsed moment that gave her three million dollars in fundraising poll breakthrough the question worship Ken she capitalize it because you know some of the moderators are going to be pressing her on details about what she actually stands for most of the question. Is You know Ken. She come into a debate and create another moment for herself. That isn't simply a scripted wind up moment moment right and that of course is is the big challenge. I'm look. She's getting some good news in her home state of California so we've got a new poll twenty three percent statistically she's ahead statistically it's still today because of the margin of error but back in April Biden was ahead in California now you can. I'd say oh it's her state. She should be doing well or you could say oh he was winning and now she seems to be rising. What's the way to look at it? Yeah it's definitely a mixed bag for Biden. This poll matches some of the others that have brought him down in numbers since the debates wobbly debate bay performance but an interesting thing is biden is still far away ahead of the rest of the field in terms of who do you think and beat president trump in the general election. That's still goes to name I._D.. But that also still goes to a general sense among Democrats Yeah Comfort and also not sure what Warren or or Harris how they could realistically before we go we just got the soundbite in from the president's <hes> rally it used to be lock her up and now there's a new rallying cry in her back. <hes> obviously referring to the congresswoman yeah I mean president trump's race Americans the right the racist says tweets have clearly broken through to the biggest true believers <hes> in the trump base or ready to to turn out and you know come up with a chance that just it just goes deeper and deeper into how our politics of so changed the that racism is expressed but someone who's a United States citizen can become a rallying cry at a rally just very disturbing and next genie most on president trump making his feelings known on everything from Biden to bitcoin not a fan. I was not a fan of his. I'm not a fan UEFA. Champions League winners liber fool are touring the world this summer stream all seven matches on we are live July eleven thirty first Jenkins. Don't Mrs Second of the Action V._R.. Live the home of Liverpool night. Trump is a fan of some things but there are some exceptions well. Here's Janey mouse. President trump is the opposite of a fan boy obsessively not being a fan the other day it was Guatemala Honduras of not a fan before that it was Jeffrey Epstein Steam. I was not a fan of his that I can tell you and before that it was the British ambassador who called president trump inept in week cables from Joe Biden so I'm not a fan to bitcoin president trump says he is not a fan of bitcoin. It doesn't bother him a bit to use the word fan to distance himself even from the Vietnam War while I was never a fan of that war I'll be honest with you and the president isn't shy about saying thing is not a fan to the face of the person is not a fan of for instance when N._B._C.'s Peter Alexander stood up for C._N._N.'s. Jim Acosta is a diligent reporter fan of yours either so I understand to be honest when designer Tom Ford Ford said he wouldn't be dressing Malania. She's not necessarily my image who got unfair band. I'm not a fan of Tom. Ford never had been. I was never a fan of John McCain and I never will be no one of McCain's good friends fan the flames tweeting okay. You aren't a fan one more in a long list of things you are not honest brave smart etc and while it's usually humans like Samuel Jackson the get not a fan first wife Ivanka trump wrote that donald was not a dog fan I would I look walking the dog or the White House Lord with that but there are few things that president trump is a fan of the big fan of Winston Churchill. He's a big fan of the American can women's soccer team if not Megan repea- no he's a big fan of history. I am a big Fan of Hindu and I'm a big Fan of India big big fan though they seem vastly outnumbered by non favorites of not a fan genie most C._N._n.. I was not a fan of his. I never will be New York. I'm a fan of new thanks for joining us. Henderson starts.

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Benedict Evans on How Tech Will Change the World | BoF VOICES

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Benedict Evans on How Tech Will Change the World | BoF VOICES

"Uh-huh. Hi, this is Ron Ahmed founder and CEO of the business of fashion every week more than one hundred thousand people, including many of us on the B O F team read Benedict's newsletter a wonderfully wonky take on all the goings on in the world of technology. The newsletter is penned by Benedict Evans, a partner at top Silicon Valley. Venture capital firm Andriessen Horowitz, I had the pleasure of meeting Benedict recently, and he accepted, my invitation to join us at voices two thousand eighteen to share his very unique lens on all things technology behold onto your hats, and listen carefully. Benedict speaks at about one hundred miles minute and covers some of the most powerful technologies coming out of Silicon Valley. All in the space of twenty minutes. Here's Benedict Evans at voices two thousand eighteen on the end of the beginning. I thought it'd be kind of a useful place. Start. With this chart, which is really the chart that defines tech industry for the last twenty years, the growth of the internet, and then the gross things. And the thing about this chart is we're now it's now getting really boring because we've almost finished over three quarters of people in our line and pretty much three quarters of all the adults and to have a small phone and all of the rest again to have one as well. But that part of the story is running to close another part of the story that still really just getting started. So well, the internet and smartphones are now almost done ecommerce is still the low level penetration. And as we look at the next twenty years, there's a couple of building blocks to about most people online most of the money is not. But as all of that money moves it will happen in different ways. It will not just be a continuation of what we've seen in the last twenty years, but we'll change a lot of those industries as we do it. And as we do that we have some new fundamental structual as to build tools with to build up Cajun's with. And to create new kinds of new concept experience and talk about each of those in turn and start by talking about market sizes, and this is basic market size. This is global this. Oh, this is US. Komo's and it seems to be pretty big getting on one hundred billion dollars a quarter now. But if you zoom out look at overall retail about nine percent of US retail spending. That's of course, not including bars and restaurants, as you may know, that's also something that started to get addressed by technology restaurant livery and food, and sewn, and then some other interesting things inside that as well. So gas stations in the US own our bigger than ecommerce and most wall of that go to disappear in the next ten and twenty years as we move to electric. In fact, the same thing applies to caught Americans spend over a trillion dollars a year all cars and parts and repairs and electric reduces number of moving parts in a car by five to ten times. And all tournament changes what it means to own a car all of that money is going to come. Drifting start moving to other places. But then retail itself is one part of the picture of overall consumer spending something the US something trick ten trillion dollars. And so actually as we think about the opportunity that US commerce number looks pretty tiny still compared with everything else. That's going to change the same thing happens when you look at how we decide what to buy or how people in this room. Tell people what they might like to buy advertising is now the largest single when went over two hundred two hundred billion dollars last year globally in the US. It's close to forty percent of all advertising spending. So this looks pretty big. And we start hearing people suggest that maybe we're going to start topping out that revenue is going to start upping out after all is pretty stable as a percentage of GDP Tej stopped to go up. Don't much show GDP advertising role. Chippy statics internet should be static. So we should be done. Well, maybe except there's another whole other pool of money that Google and Facebook don't really talk about which is marketing. And if we look at that category. We see things in here that seem highly relevant to Google. Facebook. I don't really understand why if you buy TV spot that gets county advertising and it's relevant to Google. But if you do telemarketing dog males or sell sell support that somehow an entirely different pool of money, and nobody talks about it. That is to say if I pay the placement in Amazon search results that gets called advertising, but if I pay for placement in WalMart or all sorts of other places, and that gets called marketing, actually, it's all the same thing. It's all the same job that's being done. And then there's other kinds of money that get spent to each customer things like packaging and passing shipping. And of course, we tell went because vent is just IX rent is marketing globally advertising and marketing combined with about a trillion dollars internet is still less than a quarter of that. But there's much more to think about that will expand. And so then we say, well what else is your opportunity because these are still mostly US jobs, but that's a global question. So I think it's a way of understanding what that might look like it's useful to look at one of the first pieces of global technology, which is of industrialization. And so this is show of industrial output by the company country that created this which is the UK and then the cheap overseas low wage economy that ripped off which was a USA. And so there you see the fusion of industrialization. But then the something else that happened. Going forward to two thousand fifteen relatively unsurprising if we into that. And what is it that changed here? We can see the gross of China. You see a very similar picture if you look at the spread of computing, so the US and western Europe, basically created computing, and this is where global computing was in nineteen Ninety-three close to three quarters of it was in the US in western Europe today, it's less than a quarter. And of course, a balance a lot of the balance of that again has gone to China flipping the actress here, you can see something similar. We look at usage. So this is global mobile data consumption in two thousand fourteen thousand seventeen you can see here APEC, which is basically India and China little bit of a little bit of Japan in there, but mostly India in India and China is falsely app script consumption and the rest of the world that intern reflects the spread of the global middle class. So a more middle class people at Pat now than they were on earth in twenty in two thousand nine and that, of course into commerce, and again Chinese ecommerce today is bigger than global ecommerce was only a couple of years ago. And so we tend take as I live in Silicon Valley in Silicon Valley when people say the east coast, they tend to mean, Oakland, we tend to have a relatively constrained view of what the global opportunity looks like in fact, ecommerce in the US much more than in his in a couple of other developed markets never mind just looking at China. And so then we talk look at these opportunities, and we tend to talk into them to these four big American companies. We tend to talk about Google apple Facebook, Amazon gaffer, sometimes termed sometimes people stuff Netflix in this as that they can say FANG, which sounds scary. But Netflix doesn't really seem like it should be on this list. If you look at the scale of it. So we other the companies that don't get talked about nearly as much by Alibaba tencent, which of the three big internet giants in China, smaller Kazan global, but growing very fast and still really very very big companies. But we gotta to generalize a little bit beyond just internet giants that may kind of convenient bogeyman in good ways to get headlines. But there's a lot of other company creation going on these are couple just a couple of other big global companies five ten. Ten fifty billion dollar companies that have been created most people aren't in the field of never even hurdle. Most people have never heard of dance which is valued at seventy five billion dollars in its lost capital raising this, of course, reflects what happening which is entrepreneurs yet. So the door of the internet age almost venture capital happened in the USA today. That's only three quarters awful lot happening in China happening in India in India happening in the rest of the world. Really what happens here is that technology got created in one place. But now, it is it goes everywhere. So then again, we also the opportunity as well does USC commerce, and then this US retail, which is a lot bigger. But then we have global retail which is over twenty trillion dollars, and we have global consumer spending, which is over forty trillion dollars and those kinds of pools of capital starting to think about addressing how do we address? Well, it's useful to I think about kind of new problems one of the ways, I think you could characterize this is that for the first two years of the internet. We did things easy. They didn't feel easy at the time. Like entrepreneurs in two thousand didn't feel like they were having an easy life. But what we did was things that would work if you had not many people in line, if you had not much exceptions of doing stuff online if you had not much capital, and so you tended to sell tools while than create entire businesses. You tend to do a lot of information arbitrage. So you sell tickets instead of putting the thing together at self today. We do things that presume high net penetration. Presumed people buy anything online presumed people will buy things that they would have to touch fashion for very long time people presumed known whatever fashion online, and we tend to build businesses that change counter of what it is doing in that industry. Good example of way of thinking about this. If you think about yelp fantastic company created in the old internet doesn't need a huge amount of capital and selling tools to restaurants and providing tools for free to consumers. It's an information arbitrage, business and information aggregation business restaurant delivery is a completely different challenge in these much more money. It changes what it is to be a restaurant changes what it is to eat. And it Bill uses information in completely different ways. And so this is kind of an example of how change the character of the problem. But we also change you counter, the industry addressing yelp doesn't change what it is to be a restaurant door changes. What it is to be a restaurant. So if we look at that forty trillion dollars of consumer spending kind of run up the stack this categories here that haven't really been addressed at all by technology, and this also categories that have only been addressed in pretty superficial ways. So if you think about something like housing, we obviously have listings, and we have mortgage price comparisons. We've invested in a company called open doors. It will buy your house for me. So that you don't have to wait three months to find a buyer. They'll buy form you make market in it. Find a buyer for them before it felt so we tell you what it is to buy and sell houses right up at the top healthcare. We used to have websites that you could use to betrayed your persona yourself. You had to be bonded plague. Now, we edit DNA, and we actually build fundamentally different kinds. Cures for diseases so Royds away across that is not just the technology addresses them. It's the does fundamentally different things to them a couple, of example. And I think the best place talk about this is if we look at retail, and I think it a very very high level you could describe retail sitting on the spectrum between the one end retailers just six and the other retail as taste recommendation reference, discovery advice curation insert your source here. And so on the left, you have fears warbucks is about and you have warmer on the right most of people in this room. And what happening is the internet has really only done the first of these Amazon is basically where and we've not really the ten industry. Internet industry is not really addressed the category on the right very much. What's happening? Now is that we're doubling Donald retailers. It just so we have same-day delivery free delivery, we have in particular groceries. But at the same time, we also addressing the other one and finding ways of how you might scale and distribute taste in preference incubation of the internet. So talk about each of those in turn. First of all we look at the global retail industry. The US is going to be effected much more than anywhere else because the US massively over stored far more retail space per square foot in the US than there is anywhere else in the world. If we think about how that's going to change I'm old enough to remember when e commerce was supposed to be asset light. And the idea that an ecommerce company might buy trucks was like a really stupid idea from the bubble. And you'd have to be out of your mind to do that. In fact, the original Amazon business plan said there was going to be nowhere has no stock in no shipping. It was all going to be dropped shipping. So they wouldn't own any of intrigue or have any physical assets that plan to loss. Very well. In fact, now and has got its own airline and a fleet of trucks because Amazon does everything and so as we think about that the kind of the best expression of this. I think used to look at groceries groceries break, the Amazon model because Amazon everything is about having a single unified commodity logistics model logistics layer in which absolutely every product gets treated exactly the same. Then. Of course, you. Do that we've groceries because eggs break and food spoils and things get bruised and they go off. And so you need to build a completely separate just platform to do groceries from everything else. The thing is the chart shows you hear it's such a big business at its worst doing it. Because you go through the more than double the size of total US commerce. Again. This is something where the US is going to be kind of an outlier. So this is on grocery revenue loss of this year. China is big, of course, because that's leapfrogging. Former retail Japan is big as well. It is interesting. If you then flip this look at the revenue per capita, again, you see a bunch of developed markets that are way way ahead of the USA. Interesting to explain to my US colleagues a few years ago that buying groceries online was actually a thing. And so this is again, something we're going to see a lot of change more interesting, though is not just that you will buy groceries online, but that you will buy different stuff. So this chart shows you the schools that's to say the number of products that was stopped in supermarket ninety seventy five supermarket today in WalMart supercenter, and the point of this chart is where he chain. You're buying crisis. We need change the buying journey. People. Don't just by the same stuff, but in a different place by different things. And so when you go from a corner shop to a supermarket to a WalMart. You don't have exactly the same Wiki perch, if you buy different stuff when you went from a Draper in the central Paris to department store you bought different stuff. And so with every change in the retail model we change as we change the mix of advertising, marketing and pricing. We change the fundamental distribution products within the market the same thing will happen now with groceries in particular, but also with all kinds of retail categories in general. And so there is a retailer gist model is also retailers tastes makeup. I think a good way of thinking about this is that the internet lets you buy anything you could buy New York. This is also, of course, what's whereabouts, it, you could live on a farm in Wisconsin. And you could buy almost anything you could buy New York. But it doesn't let you shop the way you shop in New York, that's kind of a different question. And now we have things that are changing that all allowing to address some of those kinds of questions. So we have all the social media with the million with we have all kinds of new economic. Models rentals description delivery, and so on we have the kind of interesting blurring of marketing spending buses advertising spending buses rent as ways of acquiring customers. Renters new rent is a new customer position cost. And of course, we have machine learning coming the end of this giving kind of fundamentally new ways of thinking about how we might suggest and discover products, which is sort of something comeback talk about later, what that means is all sorts of stuff, there were really fucking stupid ideas. It would never worked and they're working so buying fashion online. You're out of your mind buying colossus online. Come on forget it 'cause medics makeup. You haven't tried. None of this stuff is going to work. And of course, all of these things on starting to work because of all of the things that I've just talked about come back to the point. I made earlier that we're addressing e problems. You could actually say what we really done for the first twenty years is we really only did retail and advertising. Those are the things that have been demolished newspapers all the, but no one cares about them. And then there's everything else. And that's what the next twenty years does. So here is might the chart. Tells you don't really like scales. So USC komo's at four hundred billion dollars versus global GDP, which is about seventy five trillion dollars. And actually, we think about aggressing all of those kinds of categories, obviously sample calls this little company, California, tesla that's having making calls. They're doing quite. Well, you may have heard about them. What happened with the sales the newest models, and it's interesting to compare this. Now that tested was outselling the last quarter all of the other premium luxury car manufacturers in the USA so Justice doing quite well. But again, what's the opportunity while the opportunity is for million cars filled quarter and electric has an even scratchy surface there, it will it will take all of that. But it was we think about changing what the Kamo it looks like the point isn't tesla the point is what's inside cop. And so what this chart showing you is the difference between the components in a petrol car, which is called him on the right and the components in an electric car, which all come from completely different companies. They come from L G. They come from Korean and Chinese electronics companies all of the components and the supply chain of a call. That's completely different. When you go to electric is not that you get rid of the gas tank, the petrol tank at the spine out of the car, and you would use the number of moving parts by five or ten times. So you change your car is also change what you even mean when you say up, so it's not just that the car will drive around. But it will be electric is you'll be taking scooter you'll be taking a two person pot or you'll be taking an any kind of other vehicle just as much as when we went from the host of the internal combustion engine. We had all sorts of new vehicle types as we go to electrical tournament. Again, we have all sorts of new vehicle types. We change what it means to say cop. What do you do in the car? If you're not watching the road while you're probably watch TV or also drink, but you'll watch TV. And so this is this chart shows, you production budgets for Netflix, Amazon versus the US majors, and as you can see these now real contents spending as much money as major US media companies on television. This is a great quote from two thousand ten worrying about Netflix. What like worrying about the Bainian army? I hope somebody's paying attention to the Indian army. Or at least Jeffrey. More interesting though, I think is to us. Well, what do we mean when we say TV, so more people watch streaming gains by several multiples and watch Netflix HBO and laughed triple again, so call the kind of the blast premium game had a big opening weekend in the last couple of big Hollywood blockbusters. And so then if you look again at east sports, which is kind of a weird name, but means watching other people play games, which fans almost is insane. Watching other people place fought flight, why would you wanna do that? But apparently this thing I don't understand either of these categories, but apparently this thing, and so we have Eastport now crashing equivalent audiences to some of the major US. Consume its audience mask, but his watts, but then the revenue, of course, is not there yet the revenue will be there. I don't normally like these apples oranges comparisons. But sometimes they really tell you something fundamental about what's going to change. And of course, meanwhile, we think about TV consumption overall, it's on steady flatlined down flat to downward trend. Whereas the time spent on the internet is continuing to go, and we'll continue to go up overtake TV. So there is. There was television. Then there was money which seems like an interesting important question thirties, we billion dollars invested in financial technology start up to the first half of the year going to wants to tick amongst many. But most of these things are addressing existing kinds of market. I think interesting to think about the overall Tunji here again, we have trillion dollar pools of capital, not just the Cosima apart. But this is kind of the revenue being attracted by the industry. So payments banking insurance trillion dollar industries, then of course, always housing which is fundamentally financial market, which is over twenty trillion dollars. All of this is now being addressed by financial technology companies being funded out of Silicon Valley and other global technology hubs. Meanwhile, there's a whole bunch of people on earth who have no access to any of this stuff. So even in the US five to ten percent of people in the banking system globally. It's more well over twenty five percent. And even when you look into the US most people thought of have banking, an awful lot of people are what are called under Bank, which means that basically they are in a kind of second tier banking system that exploitative. And oppressive and kind of keeps them in poverty for what of a better term all of these people will be addressed in the next couple of decades. They would be addressed by giving them all paper, checkbook and a Bank account and credit card. They'll be addressed with all kinds of different models that unbundle what it is to have access to financial services. Best example of this mobile payment. China has over seventy five percent penetration of mobile payment, the chart that you see on the right, which I did check three or four times is volume of consumer payment going through basically pay a couple of other things over twelve trillion dollars last year. And so what happened is that China was basically bypassed the financial services system that we had in the west and gone straight to a new model of what financial services might look like. And this what drives us again is fundamentally new building blocks. So they were totally different consumer expectations of the water financial service would like availability of data means you can Bill products in completely different ways. You can unbundle services. You don't just have to get everything for one Bank. You can go to different companies different products. And again, we have. Running shaping the kinds of so you can create family talk about software everything else software, probably each death. Well, drug discovery is seventy five billion dollar market and machine learning means this is fundamentally different the ability to edit DNA. At edit cells means fundamentally changes, we can create completely different kinds of cures to anything that was possible in the past. But drug discovery is actually pretty small part of the overall healthcare market in that the overall health market is over seven trillion dollars, all sorts of other pools of capital where money's being spent here. And so we think about how we address where we have technology, which means that gives gives us new ways to discover drugs, but we also have fundamentally new ways to diagnose we can find out you have cancer two years earlier three years earlier five years early than we would have done before. And so we saved many more lives, we say many more resources that can be spent on something else. But then we also ask the question. Well, that's just kind of the cost of being sick. Over seven trillion dollars is the cost of being sick. What's the cost of not getting sick? What's the cost? Of not dying that opportunity might be bigger. Again, the abilities change all of those outcomes from the beginning. So one of the ways we can take about this. And so this is geeky reference, but this is an image of a monster in a famous video game called doom, and the reason I use this comparison is that this is a monster. You get to the end of the game when you've done all these stuff and kind of what one of the ways you can think about what text been doing for the last twenty years, we've been kind of killing the easy monsters, and now we're going out and killing the monsters. We're kind of getting to the boss mode, and we're dressing difficult new parliamentary different kinds of problems that much more difficult than the problems. We addressed before let's think about tools to do this building blocks to use for this sick about how the internet has been organized over the last couple of decades before the internet. We had things like AOL and interactive TV or the information superhighway, just the statement information superhighway just sons up the idea that this was going to be kind of completely centralized and controlled. And it turned out that was a little blind alley and what we got the internet and the web and the internet and the web. Were fundamentally decentralized and permissions you didn't need to get permission from the phone company or department store to launch a product you could just do it. And then we got these new organizing layers on top we got Google and Facebook, which kind of came after the internet came after the web and gave us layers on top to organize and discover and those layers are against centralized and they functioned by capturing intent and meaning and value kind of four or five levels of of obstruction. So Google doesn't know what that pages in knows what other pages linked to that page. What page is linked to those pages. It doesn't know what you're interested. In knows what keyword you you search for and what pages will knows keywords? And other people make guesses to what keywords might be worth and place bids for them, you have three or four levels of obstruction between the actual meaning and the level of understanding that the computer system has all the system has and the same thing for Facebook Facebook doesn't know you who you are. It just knows what text appears on that page. It you said that you should now we. We have another set of another wave of decentralization. So after we had the internet and the web, and then we had the centralized less. Now, we have these new decentralised layers of machine learning and of crypto cryptocurrency blockchain talk about each of those intern and then pause for breath. And so I think a good way of thinking about machine learning is to all sq what this is actually one is. We will know exactly what this is. But the question is will what would do goal say about this image. So Google say, well, this is on page is say wishbone enhanced Wagner. It doesn't know what it is. He just knows. That's what's on pages. Facebook will say, well, you people who share this picture light links to other furniture? So maybe it's you're interested in furniture, Amazon will say it's a school. I don't understand the question. What do you mean scoot? And that's the only kind of understanding that these companies have about these. Now, we go forward a few years and think about machine learning, and we have a layers of meaning that weren't possible before the first layer, we have is well, it's the chair, and that's something that wasn't possible before and that has very profound consequences just at that level for ecommerce because they Amazon doesn't know what that thing is. This is why we have all these jokes about buying refrigerator on Amazon. Amazon says you like refrigerators, clearly, you're collecting them here. Five more would you like to buy one? Because it doesn't know what it is. It's just a scoop. Well, now, you know, it's the chair, but you go step further, and you kind of know what the chair is. And what that might mean. It's a design classic it Scandinavian. Okay. If you're interested in that. I'm not gonna show you anymore. Disney cruises outs that is you can make successive layers of inference and extrapolation and understanding around what these things might mean and much broader level and just looking at this and saying, well, it's black nitsa chip. Of course, this is not just limited to ecommerce. Oh, consumer applications. Exactly. The same thing. Applies for. For example in healthcare. So straight-forward example is computer vision means you can look at an x Ray more accurately than radiographer detect cancer. But then you can say, well, I've got all these metrics coming into and I can suggest that you're probably going to have a heart attack in the next day or two, but you can go step further, and you can say well looking at your lifestyle and your your Instagram and your search patents in your exercise pans, and where you live, and where you work, you probably need to change your behavior or you're going to have a heart attack or you're going to get lung cancer or you're going to get diabetes. That's to say again, you get your successive layers of meanings excessive less of inference one of the kind of useful ways. We have a thinking about machine learning to think about scaling people, and this very different ways to think about scaling people. One of them is I have a million pictures in the basement, I have never had time to look at the mall. Now, I can send a million interns into the basement and look at them and tell me what set count all the red shirts count. All the cars. I have a million interns now, I can listen to every phone call coming into call center and tell me the calls where the customer is angry all. Call sage call agent was route. So you have a million interns. You can go and do something for you. But there's something very different which is. Well, what if you send one intern into the basement to look at all of those pictures, then they'd come back, and they'd say, well when I looked at the third million picture this really interesting patent started coming out what if you put a camera in the right part of Berlin. And you took a photograph of every interesting person aged under thirty and then what would you do with that? If you're a fast fashion company, you would know everything that people wearing now you'd also know everything that anybody had worn over the last five years, and what patent would come out of that. What would you start thinking? This might remind you all that might be interesting, again, how would you scale that what kind of implications and patents might you pull out of that finally talk about cryptocurrency. So this is another kind of show. I think a useful way of understanding. This is to go back to the early days of the internet in the early nineties. If you would said, what does the internet more does internet matter said, well, it's decentrally. This distributed in its permission list and anyone can build an application. We don't know what the patients so this is on the white. Here's internet traffic in nine hundred ninety three the web was three percent of internet traffic, the rest of it was just off the nobody uses anymore except the Email up at the top. So we didn't know what the applications were the point was capability the same thing with cryptocurrency. It's not the applications capability. We have a decentralized network. The let's build trust that let's build value exchange that lets Bill payment, and we're trying to work out. Well, what would that mean? Just as in the early ninety s we were working out. What that would mean for the internet. The final thing about here. I call this foundation. The end of the beginning we finished half of this. But we haven't really started actually addressing the border markets. Nice where to capture this is adorable. Photograph of young man, called Jeffey bills who has just entered the online books business, and doesn't he looked like it? This is what Jeffrey vessels looks like today. And I think that kind of tap. She is where MS come in the last twenty years this, of course, is what Jeff Bezos he's working on now. So that's maybe where he's going to go in the next two years. Thank you. If you enjoyed this conversation, you might be interested in professional, our global membership community from the business of fashion view of professional members receive unlimited access to all of our articles daily members only analysis, the Buick professional iphone app by annual print issues and all of our online education courses as part of your membership. For a limited time only, we are offering podcast listeners and exclusive discount on an annual of professional membership to get twenty five percent off of your first year. 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Best of This Week in Startups: Week of October 12th, 2020

This Week in Startups

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Best of This Week in Startups: Week of October 12th, 2020

"Hey, everybody. Welcome to this week in startups I. AM super pleased to talk to the founder of running tide today. because. I care about climate change like I'm sure all of you do I believe in climate. Change. And solving. That problem. As best we can in that, there must be solutions to it, but I'll be honest. I feel like a neophyte I feel like I don't have the education I, need I trust the scientists. But as an investor technologist, I would really love to be able to invest in some companies and some visions and see people take some. Big Swings and some risks and built companies around this my friend. Chris Okoh, who's a big fan or friend the pot. I should say Fan of it. But I, know he's a friend of the POD tweeted out from his at Sokha count recently that running tide was the kind of company were hoping. We would find when we started lower carbon everybody knows cra soccer retired from. Angel investing he did well enough with Instagram Uber decided hey I'm GonNa just cash amidships it'd be done but then he said, you know what? I WanNa, do a carbon based Venture Fund. Investment Fund. And he says here, bonker scowl on reasonable ambition massive impact on the planet during Insane Times. It's entrepreneurs like Mardi Ogden that fires up and he linked to a story about running tied. And I thought even though it's early days I would have the founder Marty. Program to talk to us about what he's doing with todd welcome to the POD murdy. Thank you very much. How many of these stocks would is an American average. American. Need to put in the ocean to just be carbon neutral when I needed. But one hundred, sox one stock. Okay great question I. Mean it out. Really quick. Bit. This is actually my nightmare time coming on this coming of the pot is actually doing like real time average. Asked it this way it was kind of a jerk to say. Okay, how many stocks would it take for the? ENTIRE PLANET TO BE. Clarity how? Tell me. Well, this is interesting average carbon footprint for someone in the US is sixteen tons. And tons. In the global global average is four tons. So we're four x worse than the average guy. So we went to eight tons as an global. Or. Whatever. I mean we know I know exactly how many bubis it would take to get to forty gig. Attendance. So that's four hundred billion. Okay. So that's a lot that's huge amount of effort. But. It's possible. But as possible and the possible and the ocean absorb it this is the most important thing right we have. There are only so many places that you can take this carbon that's in the atmosphere and put it where it's out of the carbon cycle. So you can plan to into trees you can put it into soil. Those are like somewhat temporary solutions because they're still in the carbon cycle where people could go cut down the trees burn on a forest or like. Over till the land and release the carbon. So those are great. We need to do those as fast as possible. We need to notorious. Yeah we do. We need to do all of that but then there's also this other type of carbon sequestration what you call it permanent removal from the carbon cycle and that's critical because that's what we have to do to get back into balance, and so we need permanent removal. So you can divide up the climate. Climate work until like three parts you have. Hey, vural change that we release less carbon. Choice like. They're really good for you. Low Carbon footprint. Fantastic thing to do it offsets potentially A. More carbon intensive protein sources that you could you could be eating right. So those things are important to you. Out to and SCALLOPS as well. Yeah. Absolutely. Love is super important things to do. and. We we need to do those. Then the other bucket is like pulling climate down or pump pulling carbon out of the atmosphere, and then you put it in and you want to do it into permanent places. So permanent places be into rock ORLEAN calcium carbonate. where it's going to be super stable and it's not like it'd be take of energy to get it out. So it's unlikely. People would do that in the future then you have. You, turn it back into oil or like a gas injected deep underground. So there's some really interesting companies like term industrial that that are doing that. And then finally, you could sink it to the bottom of the of the D. C. which. Were doing. It doesn't harm the ocean to put that carbon down there. No, I mean it's a natural. It's a natural process. No wants to carbon gets down there. It's down and. When you talk about harm like one of the things we have to be like super disciplined about is like we have to we have to acknowledge that. No matter. What level of effort we do into reversing climate change there will be extra analyses but what's the option? WHAT'S THE OPTION? We let the Ocean acidifying die that's insane like no. Completely an option. Four, hundred billion to sequester everything, and there were just to be neutral for the year. s neutral for the year. So you have to do that plus you have the decarbonised decarbonised. Andy that then it would take twenty years to get it all down. I. Mean it's it's like conservatively it's going to be. This. Is like a huge number but it's like people talk about like forty trillion dollars to get the carbon out of the atmosphere down and does it seem like an impossible number? I'll be totally honest. See It's possible. It's possible. It is possible. The technologies are not fully baked but no, no one no one has fully baked. Nobody has his style nobody's like, Hey, you give me forty trillion dollars. This is done. You know what I mean like we're not there yet but we need to get there really really fast. What would it take? What is the cost of today? To drop a stock one, hundred dollars, thousand dollars. Yeah. It's on the order of. I mean. It's on the order of one, hundred, fifty to two hundred dollars. Per Per Stock I'm sorry. Yeah. citing per tonne. Propriety interesting to to look I mean anticipate we'll do per because it's apples to apples when you have other people on board, right? So yeah, we're looking at one hundred, fifty to two hundred dollars a tonne we sink like as we scale, you get some economies of scale we get better at this better selection of species, etc. We get better at our deployment locations, we refine our models. I it's totally reasonable for us to get under fifty dollars a tonne I think fifty dollars and how many times did an average American? US Did you say before? Sixteen. Okay. So crazy I mean. So if I If I gave you. Two thousand dollars. I could be carbon neutral with this. I don't know your lifestyle but yeah. Thank you probably going to give you four K. not flying on private jets but my yeah. Yeah, totally. So Dr Tesla's. Helps that's. I'm not making any judgments but yeah, I mean you have to know you need to make every needs to reach this. Depends on what you eat you should. Eat A lot of shellfish and Robots and. Automation. I would think if we really took the seriously building or taking old oil Reagan platform that's already in the ocean. And having robots build and do this work and just throw it over board. Yeah. I wonder if two barges doing this on, could you take an old oil tanker and make that into a? Greenhouse to to build the stuff. So it's just permanently out there. Yeah, there's. I mean there's a lot of ways to scale this effort. Were doing I don't WanNa like. It's there's a Lotta fistican modeling that's going into this in terms of deploying in certain locations that are able to like have the correct nutrients and the by geochemistry of the ocean bottom where you deploy is very important. So there's a lot of like. You know there's there's a lot of like ocean knowledge ocean data that gets crunched in order to make something like this. Viable but yeah, I mean there's a lot. There's a lot of ways that we can scale this up and I think it's we have to in. One Way. Four hundred. Four. Hundred billions not say number it isn't because I think how many coffee cups get made or think how many yeah. Trivial things that get made that don't like aren't necessarily going to like. You know. For lack of to to over dramatic but like he could potentially. Have a huge impact on the future civilization light. Elon Musk says all the time right doesn't like climate change is one of the filters it's like one of the great filters if if you're facilitation can't get control over its atmosphere concentration of gases in its atmosphere than it doesn't pass a great filter. Yeah and what we mean by great filter in the sense as the filter of does your species, make it to the next level One of them is like, can you not kill each other with war? There's one filter. Can you can you build a society where warring factions don't destroy each other nuclear weapons? One fusion nuclear weapons whatever I guess you know being able to contain pandemics like we're in the middle of right now is another one. PODCAST apple has released the new iphone twelve and for the first time I'm not fine the new iphone. This really jumps the shark when. They went to their virtuous signaling. We're GONNA save the planet stick which is. You know in fairness to them they they do talk the talk, walk the walk they are going to be carbon neutral. They do care about the environment they will take their your products back to recycle and that's all. Fine and well but when they went to this shot of the roof. Of the mothership headquarters at I couldn't believe what they were telling me here. But listen to this folks. We've also been transitioning our IPHONE manufacturing partners to renewable energy. That's great. Renewable energy is perfect. We looked for ways to cut waste and use less material. Okay. She's a great idea over seven hundred million lightning headphones. Okay. We got Jesse customers have moved to a wireless experience Yep I thought repairs. Short Ireland's headphones definitely, and they're also over two billion apple power doctors always adapters from you guys ruining the billions of third party adapt. Yeah. I by the anchor better than yours. From the IPHONE box why? Since carbon emissions and avoid the mining and use of precious material? These items also means a smaller lighter iphone box. And this is where my head was the judge you twelve hundred dollars per, but they took out the charger. Because already two billion on the planet and they took out the headphones because they want you to buy the three hundred dollar once I mean and then they're explaining to us that it's a smaller footprint and the boxes smaller because they took stuff out. But. This is in your best interest in better for the planet. Okay. I get you apple I. See what you did there you're basically Took everything out except for and this is where. Everybody went crazy. On the twitter. Not only have the audacity to tell you. You don't need a charger with your new twelve hundred dollar phone and you don't need headphones with your twelve android phone. It's not like they lowered the price on this thing, it's still expensive. But then the audacity is. They still use a lightning connection so they actually did care about chargers they care of they do care about the environment why not go with the standard USB see then we don't need as many of these you make us by a USB for our. IPAD pros, you make us buy it for our MAC books and our MAC book airs in Metric Pros. And every other devices usb except for this one device, which still makes us by redundant lightning cables. so forgive me but I find this ridiculous. Let's watch the rest of this video shot on the. Solar panel roof of the money. We can fin up to seventy percent more products on shipping pack. Reducing carbon emissions in our global logistics chantoiseau buying an iphone taken, I, want to get that global logistics. We've made for iphone twelve cut over two million metric tons of carbon emissions annually rape. It's like removing four hundred and fifty thousand cars from the road. This is huge and we're really proud that apple is taking the lead we help others will follow making this impact even bigger for our planet. All right. So I thought that was ridiculous and disingenuous they should have said, hey, we took the fifty dollars off the price of it. 'cause we're saving so much money for you but. They didn't say that. but you know there's a lot of human components to this. I know people who are in the service of saving lives. It is always, very personal. My Grandfather, a firefighter, my brother, a firefighter, my uncle, a cop. Cousin cop to other cousins in. let's just say. Federal law enforcement I'll leave it at that So we got we got a Irish family filled with service. In firefighting and police in law enforcement which informs a little bit of my thinking about the world. I'll be honest but you you have a personal connection to the Steve You're a banker I, believe for twenty years You left South. Africa. To go to London and make some bank in banking as one does. but you had some personal tragedy and I know you've talked about it before. Yeah. Tragedy working for twenty years to clear. Well the Mike, the restoration project is still ongoing so. We we know about that right. And I laughed because you're so self aware of this heard you on some other podcasts or other videos that your company has produced in my research and I watched her kind of lament, your twenty years in banking. This is personal for you. Let's get into it. Yeah I would also argue that the twenty years in banking kind of prepared me for this journey as well. It was something. Well. Actually in interesting ways there was parts of my journey and banking my systems and realized I could disrupt my competitors by bill options, pricing models, and suddenly knowing that. Number one is not always number one forever if you have better technology is actually it's a huge game changer and. When I when I met when I read I, I'd realize Edinburgh's original founder. The initial system. How I got on this journey In Oh six, I lost my brother to drowning accident in Capetown just very near where I have my holiday house in Cape Town near where I grew up. In twenty. Fifteen I took time out of after capping at twenty a career in investment banking. I gotta go back to my roots tight. My kids get the feel of Africa under their feet and as soon as I arrived I realized I now have time on my hands and I wanted to do something to honor the men and women who had been volunteering on the National Sea Rescue, institute, which is. A completely volunteer based organization that helps offshore rescue in South Africa. So it's the equivalent of the royal lifeboats in in the UK I don't think there's quite an American equivalent. We don't have that we have lifeguards of course. and. We have Kosar Yeah Yeah but we don't have a volunteer service like this. There might be some lakes or something like that. But. growing up in Cape Town, you grow up on the water and you grow up. kind of like the water is a big part of your life. Correct. I understand one hundred percent. Yeah I mean I grew up I, remember the first time I went to London I couldn't see the I couldn't work out who would have a major city without in ocean just doesn't make sense doesn't. But also as beautiful as the oceans are there there? There is a respect for those oceans. Those oceans are particularly I historically known as the most dangerous oceans in the world coming around at Cape is it called Cape Horn, the around storms. Storms, right. So the Cape a good I was notorious for wrecking many merchant ships of this injuries and your brother went out for a swim and you just. There's also notorious wind in Cape. Town is also frighteningly called. It looks great and photos of instagram friendly but talk super cold and. He got into some some difficulty swimming of show and it took a while to fulfill Bechtol trickle down, get the response going and. I. Realized why he went alone for one day for a swim. Yeah. Swam. Bay Nobody Swims at and. They might dip their feet in the but no tries to swim across particular baroness. You really know what you're doing so. The the point of that was you know, Alanna back in Cape Town, and I know that these men and women who have volunteers that they have to go you know if it's an unsuccessful rescue like it was my brother, you can imagine just normal people have normal jobs in ninety five and suddenly they have to go. pull a body from the bottom of the ocean and and deal that the kinds of trauma associated with that is nothing can prepare you for. Yeah, it's it's one of the. Life changing experiences, you can have as emergency service person the first time you get called to a call that. Ends in death and I you know every single person you've talked to who works on ambulance or in any volunteer firefighter they can tell you in detail about that first time and I could tell you my mind as well and you know it's I wouldn't say it haunts me to this day but it is something I have carried with me for thirty years of my life since I've watched somebody. Pass or wasn't able to in this case, resuscitate somebody who was having a heart attack and who's old but did CPR on them and it is a it is a traumatic experience for shore and you managed to think about that job think about that work people do to go and try to help somebody in that moment is just it's it really is a takes a tremendous fortitude as an individual and we could expand on that and say. It's unbelievable when you think about your non one, the first person you speech when they take your non one call. Yeah. They've had literally thousands of those and me recently just in California now few weeks that recognizes first responders before they were classified as as clocks, Adleman and you could. Yeah Yeah. It's just ridiculous I. Mean dispatchers are such a critical role in this the dispatchers are negotiating. The. Where who to send and then where to send them to and then communicating well, the services in the back end it's they're they're the conductor of the orchestra of services whether to deploy a helicopter or boat or firefighters it is. Cpr I mean. Really. Hand on. Hands on I mean there's Any. Wha like we going down the rabbit hole which. I can. The show but. It took to put a note in it. I'm very sorry about your brother and thank you to do something this meaningful for with the rest of your life as opposed to trading options, which you know are pretty self aware of is like a video game, right? Yeah. Apparent contrast waking up every day and going to work for the for the audience who is wondering about what they should do with their life's purpose. You're you're now in I guess the the the third half of your life like me. The importance of finding something that you wake up every day and the passion you have for this versus maybe the level of passion you had for, you know playing that the options video game as it were. So I mean options videogame I just wanted to win right? I. Mean That was pretty much and you can only measure you'll wins and losses by European, how much money you made and. One me personally I always say that I created nothing other than revenue in those first twenty years of my life obviously a lot of experience that I've. Gone it over the years. But certainly, with my kids asked me what I would do for a living I would tell the my. Dad Talks Latin telephone and gets paid. That's like the title of my net contribution to society. And when I went to so I landed up volunteering at that agency in Capetown, right? Wow. And the same one that had tried to rescue your brother, this same crew and boat that are gonNA. Up to the door and I said, what do you need? You need money or people as we need people and I said volunteer and I start an Next Saturday. Yeah what is more interesting is about three days after that was, I will was my first monthly meeting every first Wednesday of the month, all the volunteers that particular station got together. and. There were about twenty people who've been coming there for between twenty and thirty years. Weekend volunteering giving their weekends. So they were heap clear who are putting their forty fifty hours a week, and then in the small amount of time, they have a week left. They're getting on a boat to go rescue people who are drowning. At I, mean, as a guy who grew up in five different Swiss banks to in London New York, you hear people talk about volunteering their Tom like this was a total moment for me in realizing that there was so much more to my life and how many toys R. could accumulate. and. And the high score in I mean basically, you're trying to get a high score in banking. So for young people listening to something meaningful with your life that also could result in a high score. These are not too disparate things correct. Did this to opinions having this one is even when I was in banking. Be Sitting in the city of London and have all these Oxford grads with a double major in physics and chemistry coming in trying to get a job on a trading floor and even then I would say listen guys I don't care what you say to me. It's interview I'm not hiring you go go. Fix cancer like, yeah. The brain drain within the financial community is just Yeah. It's. It's terrible how that's Kinda softened over the best of the best and I think it's maybe re redressed now and maybe consumer Internet is having its moment taking the best of the best out of there but I I think emission about. facebook or Google and you're printing money velocity they're printing money. You literally have people who have PhD's and Computer Vision Computer Science who could be CH- literally carrying cancer like doing computer vision models or doing drug discovery models. Or creating you know the next you know device used on an ambulance to save people and instead of doing that hard work. They're going to optimize the percentage of clicks to an ad for some racist Russian paid for Anti Hillary Clinton Ad Lily. That's what you're doing with your life. Really you got a graduate degree from Stanford or Harvard Mit and you're going to work facebook optimizing the AD network really. I mean it's Tyson I mean this is why We've been able to grow like this. We moved accompanied Austin in Jan, two thousand nineteen. And I've recruiter. IBM. Apple. Old of big guys in Austin, and that was largely because we have a mission driven business when your mission is I WanNa Reduce Response Times for all and improves situational awareness for first responders. That's not I. WanNa make sure that your eyes never leave the little black Murray new an. Welcome to another episode of this week in startups. I'm super excited to share with you. The top three vote-getters at the launch accelerators eighteenth cohort. Run an accelerator and we used to do that in San Francisco and have everybody come out for twelve weeks. But during the pandemic well that ended and we went completely virtual, the accelerator is just like any other top accelerated. You've heard of like techstars. Why combinator? We put in one hundred K., we work with a company over four months It's now a sixteen week program essentially, and we try to help them raise money. To, every investor we can imagine and then when the invest each they present to investors. So it's like a demo day each week with. Ten to twenty investors present by the end, they've done the sixteen times. So they presented to likely five hundred investors if you can't raise money. After you've pitched five hundred investors that you tell you something about the business. Either The business doesn't have product market fit or doesn't have that uptick that would lead investors to WanNa make a bet. Maybe the investors don't like the space. It could be you know a space that's been where the well has been poisoned maybe like a we were kind of situation. But in general the companies that go through the accelerator, they raise money and they tend to do it pretty efficiently. That is kind of the point of our accelerator other. Programs are more like incubators. We're not that we're not incubating ideas and getting a product launch we're looking for companies have a product and market that have some base level of traction that could be two k. a month. It could be fifty months typically at somewhere between those two numbers and we work with them. We put a stamp in their book. Hey, launched Jason are involved that helps a little bit on the margins in terms of getting a meeting. And that's selection process. We pick seven companies out of five hundred or a thousand applicants at really helps other investors now that we ran a process and that we work debu these and we diligence them. So next up Sherri Sherri Atwood is from support pay. She was also in the launch accelerators eighteenth cohort, we do these monthly or so we're trying to get to monthly. And Sherry you had a company called support cakes by into the audience what pays yes. Support pay helps parents manage child support and share expenses directly with each other. So it is a an APP that people pay for what do they pay for it correct Dave starting at seven, ninety, nine, a month or seventy, nine dollars a year and that way they can manage their child support their finances with their ex ultimately never having to talk to their acts about money. Again for the audience, I've been very careful to not savage people and I and I taught us in the Angel University classes. When you're meeting with founders before you've invested, do not savage them do not I in fact, they tried to give feedback. In terms of what to fix in the business I just tried before. I Invest I just try to learn about the business and the founder. But I'm not prescriptive I don't give them too many notes sort telam changes, changes. She should do that when after we invest then I feel like well, they've opted in to getting the candidness for me and they kind of expected to be full bore candid as brutal as I can be so that. They succeed down the road better to fix your shot or whatever little mistakes you're making in practice than when you're on the court. So what what was the experience like when I savage you? Why I think that was the e exactly the point. Right when we were interviewing with you, you didn't give any feedback in it's very similar to me fundraising before people don't feedback. I think the key areas where you really really helped. Me was wanted just the way that my pitch up looked making it much more simple and. Being, all virtual and presenting virtual is very different and that's what I don't think people understand is yes. We've gone into this virtual invest in world, but your slides and how it looks and even how it sort of all animates but doesn't really all of those things are much more Orton we realized for example, we did this past of how many slides should be moving and how the in real world bright you want less slides. But in virtual, we realize we needed to you know move every three to four seconds else people like lost interest so things. Like that. So with the way it looked, and then the big one was focusing on where we're growing not trying to go into every go to market strategy, and then finally really nailing the question and answer because if people aren't familiar right after we pitch than investors get to ask questions we have two minutes to answer all of their questions and so being able to be really concise and clear on your answer I was also something that your feedback was. Even throughout the weeks was amazing because it really helped narrow it down. Yeah I mean just to give people a background on this you really WanNa. Give short tight answers when you're talking to an investor because the investors tend to be really smart, they've heard everything they don't need you to explain basic stuff them. So when they say how many customers they have, it's great to just give them a number. We have a thousand people subscribe when they ask you what your best marketing channel what you go to marketing strategy say we're doing paid ads on facebook and Instagram, and our caq is seventy two dollars. You answer their questions and you gave him one little extra data point the CAC right. But I also say what you also help with was how to answer more difficult questions or maybe questions where things aren't as great or wonderful. So how do re frame the questions that they were asking in order to make sure it promoted the business and put you in the best light from those quick answers what do investors want to see what are they need to see? Investors need to see some growth the idea of you having zero growth in saying it's coming. Is Not convincing to anyone, and that's what we had the first year. That's where I was. Talking to three hundred investors not getting anywhere was that we were flat growth and we had reasons for it and stuff like that. But no one really cares about your reasons if you aren't showing more revenue the next month the next month after that like. We don't care. That's fine. Cool. Let let's literally proven to them to not invest your like I can build a business that doesn't grow. To shake away. That is like to be super harsh and like part of this program is to be harsh, right? I always tell people like be sure you wanted to have this experience because we're GONNA BE WE'RE GONNA WE'RE GONNA be brutally honest here. What non-growth founders prove is that they don't deserve capital. At a harsh way of saying. But you actually realize that you've taken it Dr and having you. I mean I certainly seen the difference between trying to come to investors zero growth month over month and coming to investors with twenty percent growth month i. mean the responses are very, very different. Tell us tell you have to be that people away when going twenty percent month over month I mean we are turning away more than a million dollars now and we turned away more than a million dollars a few months ago. At that point, we were growing fifteen percent month at this point we growing twenty percent month over month, and it's like the the difference in desire from investors and just like, oh no, please let me in. Let me in. Just night and day just from hitting just from between like low single digits and twenty percent. It's not that big of a difference in terms of a number, but it is very different in terms of the reception and it's very different in terms of running a company. What how is running a company changed for you now that you have a North Star that you want to be a high growth company. I mean I think the idea of having a bunch of capital in having having access to capital and whatever capital you want. That that changes, things I mean then you have to start making decisions about well, do you actually want what you actually need in? What is what is the right path for this company? So frees you up to be really really strategic with the stuff in a way that just trying to get whatever you possibly need because otherwise the company's GonNa fold like that kind of panic space. Gives you a lot fewer options and a lot less time to make strategic decisions? So at the point where you get to actually start turning down capital and saying, no, what capital do I want and who do I want it from? And why and what are we going to do with it like those? Luxury of time like that's what you get. Yeah. You've earned the ability to take a bigger picture to think more strategically, and this is what he said about. Tesla and their journey is well, the way capital allocation works is the more success that you have and the more you prove that there is a business they are the more capital allocators will give you. Tokens to put into the video game. So in the case of Tesla like when they sold two thousand roadsters. Here's some more money but not all of it when they got the Model S. it was car of the year it was like, oh Here's more money than they get the axe out and then the model three eventually they're like, okay, this company's unstoppable jer now, they can start thinking in a decade long way instead of. In the early days of tests that they were looking at. A month-to-month life they were they were literally hand to mouth. So how has that change for you? Jeremy? I'm curious. In terms of thinking about life as a growth. Company versus. The reality of like hey, maybe the product isn't finished. You can't just all of a sudden. You know put the car to one hundred miles per hour if it's only three wheels on it so. That yeah. It's so true like I. Always think everything's falling apart internally right? Like we're we're building companies within companies like there's companies bill around being a form builder and we have a form builder inside our APP builder. So there's there's always things that are like three wheels and you're trying to put the best face on you possibly can while you're still trying to grow the funny thing that has happened since launch is the outbound that I learned in launch that I that I keep. Having it has it has slowly pivoted to getting the most inbound interest from partners at tier ones like VC's that I've ever had in my entire life. So. Like as you start to grow and like people are interested in the no code ecosystem like building the business does back that thesis that I was talking about earlier that if you focus on the business and make sure that that's growing and wearing that pressure people will find you somehow someway. There are smart people out there watching you and what those investors are sometimes watching is, Oh, you raised a seed round so I was. I was training in the Angel University course somebody asked me a question like how could I find companies to invest in? Well, that's where he go on crunch base say in your state or just in the United States. Let's say if you're in the United States and that's where you want to us do the United States take two month period January and February of last year and take any company that raised between fifty thousand and seven, hundred, fifty, thousand. which your companies might have fell into at some point. And then if they're in there and they've raised that amount of money, that's not enough money to last three years. So if it was last year a year ago or maybe fifteen months ago, they're probably looking now if they're still alive and then go see how many employees they have. If they've got twelve employees and the only raised two hundred fifty will twelve employees times five or ten k. a month each. They probably have revenue if they or maybe they raised money and you know so it's just teaching. Angel investors had to find companies, but that's what that's just. So you guys know how that's happening. That's how they'll finding you. Yeah. It's important to keep your crunch base into. Post about your fundraising and to cadence of news going. Gabriel with your monthly updates. The best of this week in startups is brought to you by Lincoln in marketing to redeem a free one, hundred dollar Lincoln Ad Credit and launch your first campaign. 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The Unrelenting Cost of Slavery

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The Unrelenting Cost of Slavery

"The paychecks podcast is brought to you by. Wc when you start looking into the racial wealth gap. There's a moment in us history towards the end of slavery that's inescapable. It's eighteen sixty five during the final months of the civil war and union. General william tecumseh sherman. His army had just marched across georgia to capture savannah any issues field order that sets aside land in south carolina georgia and florida for freed slaves. That they would own and live and work on. This is known as forty acres and mule. It's often talked about as something that could have changed the trajectory of the racial wealth gap today if it ever actually happened. After president abraham lincoln was assassinated his successor. Andrew johnson famously rescinded offer a lack of all of lincoln's capacity for greatness. He was deeply deeply racist. He couldn't have cared less about the fate of the former slaves and he do restored white supremacy as quickly as he could that eric fellner. He's a professor emeritus of history at columbia university in new york and has written several books on civil war era history. He says this moment was a huge missed opportunity for building. Black wealth by some estimates that land would have been worth as much as point one trillion dollars today but it wasn't the end of the conversation about giving an economic future to former slaves during reconstruction after the civil war Former slaves on some white allies insisted that genuine freedom required some kind of economic base. And that in an agricultural society that man owning land nineteen sixty six. A congressman named thaddeus stevens proposed an amendment to a bill that would have confiscated all the land from plantation owners. Split it up and giving it to former slaves and the people who fought for their freedom we especially insist that the property of the chief rebels should be seized in used for the payment of the national debt caused by the unjust in wicked war. They instigated the whole fabric of southern society must be changed and never. Can it be done if this opportunity is lost. One reason to redistribute the land was political. The republicans in congress wanted to dilute the economic power of southern landowners. But there was another reason to you need to break up the plantations at distribute the land. This was the only way that african americans would avoid being economically dependent on their former owners. They wouldn't really be free. Johnson may have been president but congress at that time was run by radical republicans like stevens who were rapidly passing laws to expand the rights of black people they passed the thirteenth fourteenth and fifteenth amendments that abolished slavery granted citizenship to anyone born in the us including slaves engaged. Black men the right to vote. Congress debated the land issue but never took it up seriously. The economic revolution did not go. As far as the political revolution. Congress did not pick up the banner of forty acres and a mule. It was considered to unprecedented. You know it was just not something. That was part of the american tradition in some ways. You're asking today along with a take somebody that thing. How long with prejudice blind division of man. I come to you with that. The new album difficult for moment. That's however speeding. Our it will not be long hundred years later. Martin luther king junior would lead a civil rights revolution not seen since reconstruction the movement would help end segregation and laws. That made it almost impossible for black people to vote. But even after those victories he would talk about the problem they didn't solve. The negro is worth worse off today. Nine hundred fifteen and twenty years ago and so. The unemployment rate among whites at one time was about the same as the unemployment rate among negroes. But today van employment rate among negroes twice that of martin luther king junior's the other america speech at stanford university in april nineteen sixty seven. We must see that the struggle today. You is much more difficult. It's more difficult today because we are struggling now for junior win equality much easier to integrate a lunch counter that it is to guarantee a livable in palm and a good solid. Economic justice was next on king's agenda but he was never able to achieve it a year. Later he was assassinated in memphis. The data shows that the median white family has ten times more wealth than the average black family. One of the drivers of that wealth gap is redlining. The practice of mortgage lenders denying loans to people based on the race or where they live. We have lived for how many years. And i feel that the way to bring about equality of black people in the system is automatic. You our black people. The bottom of the economic ladder bottom of the housing ladder about him of educational addis. I was prepared to try to get used to having a colored family on the block. Nafis another one across the street and pretty soon will be one next door before you know what those are going to start looking like harlem live. I don't wanna live in a color. Slow welcome back to the paycheck. I'm jacky simmons. And i'm rebecca greenfield. Last time we discussed what wealth is it matters. And how you get it today. We're gonna talk about the four hundred plus years of history that led to america's wealth gap. If you want to look at the origins of the racial wealth gap as a pretty good place to start to under fifty years of unpaid labor. That's gonna create a pretty large gaff between the people who are slaves and the people who are owners. That's eric fellner again. Slavery not only robbed black people of wealth but black people's labor and bodies created a huge amount of wealth for white people to understand the enormity of this phone are says there's a stat that he always used to tell his students when teaching them about the history of the wealth gap the economic value of the four million. Slaves was average of one thousand dollars per person or about four billion dollars altogether. The banks railroads and factories in the united states. All put together will worth about three and a half billion dollars. Not only was all of this wealth in the hands of white people. A lot of it was in the hands of white people who had a strong economic interest in keeping black people. Enslaved at the very least economically subservient. The history of welsh ration- in the us is filled with figures. Like these that help us understand the enormity of the racial wealth gap we asked our colleague katharina sarava in economics reporter at bloomberg is she could do the math to show not just the losses endured by black people but the huge economic gains created for white people. Hey katerina welcome to the paycheck. Hi thanks for having me so if we're going to go back into. Us street to look at the wealth gap over time. Where do we start okay for our purposes. Today we're gonna start with pre civil war america book before we do that. I'm gonna give you four numbers to hold in your head. Can you do that. Totally okay. Forty trillion dollars. Two hundred and seventy million two hundred million and seventy five you that yet. Forty two trillion two hundred seventy million two hundred million and seventy five. You gotta jackie yup not great. We'll start with the first number forty two trillion dollars. That four billion dollar figure that eric phone or talked about that would amount to as much as forty two trillion dollars in today's money. That shows you just how much wealth was created for slave owners so in the high end. That's like double the entire. Us economy today exactly and that doesn't include all the lost wages and income that black people never got for their free labor. The us used enslaved labor for almost two hundred and fifty years. Thomas kramer a professor of public policy at the university of connecticut calculated that from the founding of the country in seventeen seventy six to the end of slavery in eighteen sixty five that amounted a twenty trillion dollars in today's money and it's also important to understand that owning slaves didn't just make white people rich. It helped them get richer. I called up a couple of economists and historians to have them. Help me with some of this math. If you own slaves that wasn't asset on which you could gain leverage to buy more stuff. And that's how you get riches you have assets that produce wealth and then you can get more credit based on those asset. That's merceron on a law. Professor and associate dean at the uc irvine school of law and the author of the color of money black banks and the racial wealth gap. She brings us to the second way. We can look at wealth created by slavery. It wasn't just slave owners who profited. It was everyone connected to the slave economy which at this point in. Us history was most people. Cotton was by far the largest expert at the time. Big banks lake j. p. morgan and lehman brothers got rich financing its trade. There were literally slave backed securities the entire economy of some southern towns down to the smallest shopkeepers depended on the cotton trade. So are we coming to another one of your numbers. No so i really wanted to find an exact number for this. And i asked a bunch of people but it's really hard to quantify this because slavery was just such a big part of the us economy one of the things. Most people agree on though. Is that the. Us would probably not be the world's biggest economy today without its slave history. Okay but once slavery's abolished what happens to that. Four billion dollars of slave labor rate so they lost those human assets and that was a massive loss in wealth but a recent study found that within a generation the grandsons of slave owners were covered all that wealth the researchers attributed to a few things a network of professional relationships that allowed them to start new businesses and they created a legal environment that allowed them to continue to exploit black labor. The paychecks podcast is brought to you by. Wc after the civil war there was some talk about how to set black people up for their free lives and shore up some of these differences that forty acres and a mule. Promise as we know that never happens and there was something else going on in the middle of america that had big implications for the wealth gap that condition of the denial of the forty acres was accompanied by a situation in which one and a half million white families received hundred. Sixty acre land grants in the western part of the united states. That's william garrity better known as sandy an economist at duke university who i talk to about this. What he's talking about are the homestead axe. And here's my second number. The acts were a series of bills that were meant to encourage settlement of the american west by giving away two hundred and seventy million acres of land largely stolen from native americans. So at this point black people are free. Are they able to get any of that. It's complicated the original homestead act was passed in eighteen. Sixty two one. Most black people were still enslaved. There was a southern homestead act in eighteen. Sixty six that was open a black applicants but the land prices were often still too expensive so the vast majority of this went away people. It's hard to quantify the value of the land today but the social scientists trina shanks estimates that forty eight million mostly white americans today are descendants of these original homesteaders. But there were some black families like mine who were able to acquire land. Yeah but the economic hardships of the post civil war period the fact that plantation owners now had to pay for their labor only increased racial resentment toward black people in the south this led to the jim crow laws that severely limited black people's freedoms what jobs they could do if they could own property where they could live which kept them poor and in many cases indebted to their former owners. Here's our again. Blocks found themselves locked into the lowest wrongs on the ladder in in what was now the poorest region in the united states anyway so they were at the bottom. The bottom was very difficult to move up from there. Plus that was accompanied by violence toward anyone who bucked the racial norms. Like black people who accumulated any kind of wealth. One of the most egregious incidents was the tulsa massacre of nineteen twenty one that destroyed a neighborhood that was so prosperous in its businesses and homeownership that it was known as black wall street in one day. Thousands of white rioters including police officers burnt down. Hundreds of homes and businesses displacing. Ten thousand black tolson's even used world war one bomber planes to burn the city. And that's where we get to my next number two hundred million dollars. That's how much wealth was destroyed in tulsa in today's dollars but it wasn't an isolated incident. Sandy charity says there were around one hundred of these attacks from the end of the civil war into the nineteen forties. Hundreds of thousands of americans were members of the ku klux klan. And there are around. Three thousand lynchings between eighteen. Seventy and nineteen forty so slavery itself created a multi trillion dollar wealth gap and appeared after slavery didn't do much to close it because if things like the homestead axe and all this racial violence. Yeah that's right and none of that includes the one thing. Most people can trace their wealth back to home. There were two important policies that brought home ownership to the masses in the twentieth century in the presence of senators congressmen and the heads of veterans organizations. President roosevelt signs. Gi joes bill of rights. The pens will become valuable souvenirs of the occasion that guarantees a returning soldier. A year of unemployment insurance guarantees fifty percent of wrongs after two thousand dollars and helps pay for the completion of schooling in one thousand nine hundred eighty four. The national housing act created a system. Where the us government for the first time guaranteed mortgages and then the gi. Bill helped veterans returning from world war two access low interest loans to help cover certain expenses like homes. You no longer needed a pile of money to buy a house. This not only allowed many more people to own homes but because people could leverage these assets to take out a loan to start a business or pay for their kid's college education it became a huge way to build more wealth. Black people were almost entirely left out of this and it did not accidentally leave out. People of certain races so explicitly an methodically. What merceron is talking about is red lining now that the government had a vested interest in making sure it's loans got paid back. It came up with a system for assessing risk to do just that it created maps that deemed certain neighborhoods safe bets and others so that banks wouldn't readily lend to people looking to buy their and this system more than anything was based on racism. So windows fha mountainair makers went out to survey risk for the mortgage market. They were protecting the insurance fund and they were creating a a risk map across the country. You're gonna go into a neighborhood. You gonna look around and say. Is this a good neighborhood or just a bad neighborhood until you look at these forms. And they say you know there's a lot of quote unquote lower races in this neighborhood. And this was called red lining because they literally color coded so called risk predominantly black neighborhoods. Read so black. People were either denied mortgages or they could very high rate loans so in some ways it becomes a self fulfilling prophecy. When you're stuck in a so-called undesirables zip code. It's difficult to read or even improve your lifestyle exactly and this has huge implications for the wealth gap most americans wealth. Today comes from homeownership. This systemic exclusion of black people from buying many of the country's most desirable homes and from affordable loans. Is there reason. We have such a large racial wealth gap today. Nearly seventy five percent of white families. Own homes while less than half of black families do That was my last number and you might be wondering why am stopping before we get to the civil rights era. That's because while the civil rights movement had a lot of success in ending legal segregation. There was much more resistance to fixing the housing problem and other economic issues that directly contributed to the wealth gap. This podcast is brought to you by marsh mcclennan. This is an extraordinary moment. The challenges are vast yet. So are the possibilities. 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The bill finally passed with this bill. The voice of justice speaks again. It proclaims that fair housing for all all human beings who live in this country is now a part of the american way of life this law and others later on may discriminatory practices like redlining illegal. But they were weak and they didn't correct for the decades of damage already done in nineteen sixty seven white families had five times the wealth of black families today. They have seven times the wealth. That's why martin luther king junior's words still ring true. It is a cruel good to say to boot list man that he oughta lift himself by on bootstraps and the fact is millions of negroes as a result of denial and neglect ben lab boot they find themselves impoverished alien in this of fluent society and bad is a great deal let the society can and must do. The negro is to gain the economic security that he needs. Now one of angelou's it seems to me is a guaranteed annual income. A guaranteed minimum families confluence of things but the country on track for today's racial wealth. Gap and the legacy of these moments continues to play out for the next couple of episodes. We're going to dig into how black people are still being left out of major vehicles for wealth-building first up land here. This farmer have received that fom operating all one hundred fifty seven thousand dollars He hadn't even done the paperwork now. The correct paperwork on the loan. And i was pretty much a big and pleading for five thousand dollar operating and he had this conversation with earl as though i wasn't visible before we go. We have our request for you. Experts estimate that closing the racial wealth gap would take around thirteen trillion dollars. Give or take a trillion or two that works out to about three hundred thousand dollars for every black american. We'd like to know. What would you do with that. Three hundred thousand dollars. How might it change your life. 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Ep. 579 - Give Up Your Liberty Because Feelz

The Andrew Klavan Show

42:09 min | 2 years ago

Ep. 579 - Give Up Your Liberty Because Feelz

"As Democrats call for supreme court nominee Brett Cavanaugh to step down in the wake of unsubstantiated sexual charges. The time has come to ask the question. What are the rules of the metoo movement? Is it an hysterical witch hunt being used by left wing hypocrites to destroy the lives and careers of those with whom they disagree so they can protect their fanatical hold on power and prevent the nation from reestablishing constitutional governance after five decades of left-wing assaults on our liberty? Or is it something else to answer these questions? Mainstream media outlets issued a new pamphlet entitled, what are the rules of metoo written by ABC political analysts, sometimes known as Howdy, doughty or Howdy. Doody would just duty, especially after one of his TV appearances. The Panthers begins with an introduction, reading quote, for too long. Women's voices have gone on hurt, although not necessarily in my house where believe me if the voice of my ex wife could go on heard for even half an hour, I give tenth of my salary to charity, but in other more peaceful places women's voices of. Gone on heard, and it's time for this injustice to come to a shrill screeching and endlessly complaining halt. Unquote. Dowdy duty continues writing. Quote, women must not only be heard. They must be believed except my form other in law because the woman's a psycho. But the point is if a conservative man is nominated to the supreme court and a woman who may or may not exist, accuses him of something that may or may not have happened, these allegations must be taken seriously, lest we teach our daughters that they can't just randomly destroy people's lives. It will unquote in conclusion, dirty dowdy writes quote for too long. We have lived by the rule that says, a man is innocent until proven guilty. But I say if we can't ruin our political opponents through unsubstantiated innuendo than this is no longer the America I love unquote. I guess they don't call them duty for nothing trigger warning Andrew claybin. And this is the Andrew klavan show. Also say. See Thompson zippy's, so wonderful. To see. All right. I didn't think I was going to get to open without cracking up, but I get the prize. It is mailbag day. So pack up, your troubles in your old now bag, and we will get rid of them. All all. My answers are my God. I couldn't stand it anymore. It's like it's like some kind of mental torment. Also young Kapoor I guess you don't say happy own Kapoor's, very solemn holiday. Ben was explaining it on the on our backstage show yesterday as when they take a day juice take a day to repent of their sins. Ben, it's probably gonna take a couple of days I would think, given his sins, but he'll be back and and I wish you all a good, Yom Kippur. You know, you remember during the financial crisis, Rahm Emmanuel who was going to become Obama's chief of staff and then go on to become the mayor of Chicago and preside over the decline of Chicago into chaos and crime and murder. He said, you should never let a crisis go to waste. And of course what he meant by that is when there's a crisis people panic and you can stuff left wing laws and regulations and ideas down their throats because normally people protect their freedoms. They want their freedoms, especially in America where our freedoms are kind of in our blood. They're kind of we've inherited heritage this tradition of liberty. We know that we're supposed to be free, and so you need a crisis to make people panic and take their freedoms away. I'm watching this brick Cavanaugh thing. This devolved into really a circus at at this point is a circus in which the Democrats are really just using this woman's unsubstantiated charges to delay the process. Their hope is that they can delay the process until after the midterm elections, so that people up for election. Democrats for election in red states won't have to cast difficult vote against cavenaugh and then get punished for it at the polls. That's one thing they want. And then in the outside chance, they take back the Senate, then they can just delay the supreme court pick forever. And that's the plan that is the plan is not about sexual Justice. It's not about this woman is not about her pain, but they're always always always using the same argument. And the argument is you should give up your liberty because feels because feelings you know, give up your liberty because it's a crisis because my identity because I'm Vic. Him because I look at my sad face give up your, yes, yes. Okay. Okay. Humankind has crawled for thousands of years out of the muck of slavery out of the muck of savagery. You know, it used to be that if you were living a slave of the pharaoh, the Ferro die. They buried you with the ferry you're dead. It took thousands and thousands of years for people to crawl up into the idea of individuality, people thought and fought and died mothers lost their sons on battlefields. Yes, yes, yes. The constitution greatest piece of political writing ever done ever completely unique document enclosing the wisdom of thousands of years. Yes, but I'm sad. I'm sad. Give give it back. Give us give us your freedom back please, because is a look. It's a woman is a woman, a woman, a woman. Are you going to hurt a woman by being free? Oh my goodness, gracious. Do not do that. She's a victim. She has an identity, her identity. She's gay. She's black short. She's tall, give up your freedom because this is. Crisis. It is a crisis, and we're sad, it's always the same argument and the argument kind of got it. Strength got its power from the restoration of rights to black people in this country, which was a true injustice and it required federal action against states rights. Remember during the time of segregation when the Democrats were fighting for some segregation down the south, they called him Dixiecrats because they were the Democrats down in Dixie when they were fighting to maintain the Jim crow laws that they put in place after the civil war that they lost when they were fighting to keep blacks from voting. The supreme court had to step in the federal government had to step in with a civil rights law, and that is the template that they always wanna use. But of course, that was an exception because a segment of American citizens were being kept by Democrats were being kept out of the constitutional system. So it was an exception because they were being deprived of their constitutional rights. It doesn't make any sense to say because they were being deprived of their constitutional rights. We should get rid of the car. Institution know each, we shouldn't force the constitution in everybody's lives, but these cases in all the other cases that come out of this, the gay rights and the women's rights and the metoo movement. It's always always the same argument. The argument is give up your rights because a victim is being oppressed because their identities oppressed because they have the sad, they feel look how brave the accuser is give up your rights. So right now, we've got this guy, Brad Kavanagh by all accounts, a guy who's lived in unimpeachable life woman after woman has come forward saying what a great guy is. Women who dated him have come forward. And now this one woman says that thirty five years ago in a drunken party. She can't remember exactly when she can't remember exactly where he climbed on top of pushed her into a room, locked the door, climbed on top of her and felt her up, and she thought he was going to rape her. He says he wasn't even that the party. He says, he may not even know the woman. He says, you know. That he, he certainly didn't do it. He's never done anything like this and they. And so the Republicans caught in the metoo trap because the victims and all the say, okay, okay, due process, let's have a hearing, bring him in Monday, Christine. Blazey Ford is now saying, Nope, not coming in. This is the latest now at all may change. But the latest is she said her lawyer sent a letter saying she wants an FBI investigation of charges, which is absurd because that's not the way the FBI works, right? The FBI investigates federal charges. If this would be state crime. If it happened thirty five years ago, if it's not a felony would be passed the statute of limitations the FBI when they do background check, which they've done six times on Brett cavenaugh. If there's a charge they bring that charge to the Senate, which then investigates if it wants to by having a hearing which Republicans are offering to do on Monday, but no, because that's not the point. It was never the point. So all, but all we want all. All the the left and it's media, which is basically the mainstream media want is the emotions to carry away to create a sense of crisis to create a sense of victimhood a sense of the preservation of these identities that they have invented, and they've divided us all into two that you give up those thousands of years of rights rights that were fashioned in blood and death, and human thought and human enterprise and climbing give them up because it's woman, it's a woman, she's ozo- woman. So I have to start this by playing this cut of Anna Marie Cox and I don't wanna pick on Annemarie cots. You ran this website one cat, which she talked about all the sex people were having in Washington, all this. She became a Christian. I think about three years ago and she has. I've heard her talk about her Christianity and it's not my idea of Christianity. She says, everybody was nobody's born evil where Christians really believed that not everybody's not born evil. They're just born broken and they do bad things. They have a tendency to do all of us have a tendency to do bad things. But now she, this is her standard that she puts forward on MSNBC for how Brett cavenaugh should be judged if he if he has to come forward and testify on Monday, which he has said he is more than willing to do. We need to judge break having on not just on what he may or may not have done, but how he treats a woman's pain. And that is something I mean paying attention to on Monday. How does he respond to what is happening whether or not he's, he agrees that this happened with her. Does he take her pain? Seriously? Do the do the people interrogating her, take her paint seriously. Now I'll give you a spoiler alert. I don't think brick takes women's pain very seriously, and I know that because of the decisions he's made as a judge. But I think that for have that unfold on national television live and we'll be quite instruction instructive. You follow the logic of that. He's making decisions as a judge. He has repeatedly said on the basis of the law, but not on the basis of a woman's pain. You mean Li Anglo American system of law, which is one of the treasures of. Hannity is when it's like a cathedral that humanity built again, sweat blood, thousands of years Anglo. American law has a women's pain, a woman's woman's pain and listen. None of us wants to see women in pain, and we all have women in our lives. We love the women in our live people keep saying to me, oh, if this happened to your daughter, you punch the guy out. And the answer to that is because they want to personalize it. They wanna make it an emotional thing for me. But the thing is, if if somebody did this to my daughter, I would put him out. But if somebody did this to my daughter and I found out about thirty five years later, and the guy had lived in unimpeachable life, I would not punch him out. That would be insane. That would be graceless. That would be unforgiving. It would be inhuman, of course, if I found out about thirty five years later and the guy had lived a good life since then I, I just have to let it go. I'd have to deal with my pain. That's the way it would be. But now is this kind of bullying idea that somehow the accusers courage over and pain overrides. The rights here is. Brooke Baldwin on CNN. Just listened to the bullying tone here? Well, what you want him to have due process the the accused gets due process, right? You cues to get new Prospal. What about the woman. I got to push back a little bit. What what process is there when you are a woman who suffered sexual and physical salt allegedly, who is all of a sudden realizing this past summer that the person she says, assaulted her is the guy who could be the next Justice on the US supreme court. Absolutely try. Hang on. Hang on. Hang on. None of us can begin to understand what that process her own process looks like to then have the guts to come forward and write a letter at first anonymously because she feared the the lashing which has begun. So I'm just saying, when you say the process. If it's emotional bullying, no one can understand what she is all my goodness, the pain, the suffering. And again, maybe so I'm not. I'm not attacking Christine. Blazey Fordham attacking her, you know, I, I don't know what you remember what she misremembered, but due process is more important than her pain. The constitution more important than her pain, our liberties more important than her pain. And I know it's sad, we feel for it, but that's not a reason to give up your rights or the rights of Brett cavenaugh or his judgeship. Hey, I gotta talk to you about pair of thieves over the weekend. I tried. I test drove some a pair of pair of thieves underwear now we don't want to think too much about my underwear. Right? We want, you know, we've got enough and we don't want to think about the mushrooms on the mareo card or anything like that, but I gotta tell you this stuff is so comfortable. It is. It's really is close to Queen commando as you possibly can. It is. It's got design. On it and all that stuff. But that's not what got me got me like wearing. Absolutely nothing just incredibly comfortable. 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Remember Joe Biden the former vice president with the brains of an ashtray. He, he said. For a woman to come forward in the glaring lights of focus nationally. You've got to start off with the presumption that at least the essence of what she's talking about Israel, whether or not you forgets facts whether or not it's been made worse or better over time. Biden said, no, you don't. No, you don't. I mean, I'm sorry, I, if she's courageous, she's courageous, but if she doesn't show up on Monday, they should vote. And by the way, if you're a man, if you have an opinion about this, like me in your man, the Senator from Hawaii maisy Geraldo I guess her name is pronounced. She has something a little message for you here. It is, of course that helps set their women on that committee. But you know what? I expect the men in this country and the men in this committee. And many of them believe me because we all signed onto this letter to demand an investigation, but really guess who's perpetuating all of these kinds of actions. It's the men in this country, and I just want to say to the men of this country just shut up and step up. Do the right? Oh, yeah. Yeah. Just shut up. Just shut up man because it's only you know when you get to the point of, if you're not going to deal with rationality, if you're not going to deal with the law, if you're not going to follow process and if it's all emotion, it's all bullying, you know who gets this right again, Donald Trump is playing this really well. He's been much more restrained than he usually is this listen to what Trump had to say because it's important. I feel so badly for him that he's going through this to be honest with you. I feel so badly for this is not a man that deserves this. This should have been brought to the fore. It should have been brought up long ago and that's what you have hearing score. You don't wait till the hearing is over, and then all of a sudden bring it up when Senator Feinstein sat with judge cavenaugh for a long period of time, a long, long meeting. She had this letter. Why didn't she bring it up? Why didn't she bring it up then why didn't the Democrats bring it up then? Because. Obstruct and because they resist, that's the name of their campaign against me. We, they just resist and they just obstruct them. Frankly, I think their lousy on policy and in many ways they lousy politicians, but they're very good on obstruction and it's a shame because this is a great gentleman with all of that. I feel that the Republicans and I can speak for myself. We should go through a process because there shouldn't even be a little doubt. Brett Cavanaugh has feelings too. That's why we don't give up our rights. We stick to the process. All right. Let's let's move on here a little bit and talk about Trump declassifying these FIS awards versus the deep state. Because I've always said, I've been very clear that I sometimes have trouble trouble with Donald Trump. I've always been very honest about it, but the people who say he is fighting a swamp, a deep state, a government unelected government that has gotten completely out of control. Those people are absolutely right. And you've never seen it as clearly as this because Donald Trump is talking about declassifying information in this Russia investigation. He wants to show that the FIS it court warranted, let them spy on his campaign that it was based on false unsubstantiated charges from is opponent from Hillary. Entin. So he says, I want to declassify this perfidious gas bag John Brennan, right? Who had a big hand in starting a lot of this. He goes on and says, oh yeah, he he's allowed to do that, but we shouldn't allow. We shouldn't obey the his power. I think it's highly inappropriate and unethical for Mr. Trump to take any action that pertains to the FBI criminal investigation of Russian collusion and Russian and cooperation with Russia during the election of which Mr. Trump and close associates or subjects. So that should not happen that he would able to be able to take such an action. He certainly has the authority to do it, but I do think it's highly inappropriate. I think Christopher Ray director of FBI and Dan coast, right of national intelligence as well as rod Rosenstein who was over seeing this investigation should push back against any directive that is going to have negative impact on our capabilities as well as the investigation. So I think they should continue to push push push if Mr. Trump in the White House does not relent. Well, then I think they have. Some decisions to make whether or not they're going to just not follow that direction and be fired or to resign. So they he has the authority, but the deeps, the law enforcement should resist. The law. Law enforcement should resist the law and resistant resist and obstruct and obstruct. Now we saw, I'm not gonna play this right now, but James O'Keefe Project Veritas has has been doing his usual thing where he goes in with hidden cameras, caught this guy in the State Department who is one of the Democrats socialist of America who says, yeah, they can't fire me. So I'm writing democrat socialist letters. But earlier this week, Alexandria, Google is Cortez. The Democrats socialist candidate from queens was talking to Jake tapper, and he asked her to explain how are we going to pay for all her projects and everybody said, oh, she can't explain. So we'll play that because there's another kind of logic here that tells you why the deep state feels as empowered as it does. Your platform has called for various new programs, including Medicare for all housing as a federal, right. Federal jobs, guarantee tuition-free. Public college, canceling all student loan debt according to a nonpartisan and left leaning studies friendly to your cause, including the center on budget and policy priorities or the tax policy center. The overall price tag is more than forty trillion dollars in the next decade. Recently said in an interview that increasing taxes on the very wealthy plus an increased corporate tax rate would make two trillion dollars over the next ten years. So whereas the other thirty eight trillion dollars gonna come from that. We need to realize when we look at something like Medicare for all Medicare for all would save the American people a very large amount of money and what we see as well as that these systems are not just a pie in the sky. They are many of them are accomplished by every modern civilized democracy. In the western world, the United the United Kingdom has a form of single payer, healthcare, Canada, France, Germany, what we need to realize that these investments are better and they are good for our future. These are generational investment. That's so that not just they're not short-term bandaids, but they are really profound decisions about who we want to be as a nation and as and how we want to act as the wealthiest nation in the history of the world. So everyone made fun of Google is Cortez there. She really does have Google is I'm sorry because she couldn't figure out how to pay for these forty trillion dollars of program, but that's not what got me about that clip Gami about that clip is the week of it. She says, this is going to save the American people money, and we're going to make an investment, but whose money whose money what that what she means is that your money is belongs to the American people, which means to the state which she means when she says, we're going to invest is we're going to invest it. Sure, you earn it. You work for it, but we're going to invest it because we own your money. And if they own your money, they own your time. And if they own your time, they own your life and it's because they think they own your time and because they think they own your life that they can do whatever they want, no matter who you elect and that. That is why people voted for Donald Trump. All right. It is time for the mound bide. All right. We have a lot of good questions from Jacob. Hello klavan would've end the Lord claim. They used to call me the God of the multi cliven eight Cleveland. I have a question on grief. All right, sad question here. I lost my mom to cancer last month right after my birthday and I'm having a hard time grieving over whenever I think about our switched to thinking about something else. I feel like I'm not grieving properly, but I don't know what to do about it. I'm only twenty and I don't have anyone to talk to about this kind of thing, but I don't want to nor my thoughts about my mom. This question is the first time I've really sat down with thought about my mom since she died. All right. I'm really sorry college. Very tough to lose your parents and very tough to lose anybody love. I've said this many times, but is worth saying, again, grief is a desert that has to be crossed on foot. And the reason I say that is because it is a space of time that you have to get through and there's no driving across it. There's no taken a camel or bike, you gotta walk it step by. Step, don't feel guilty about where you are right now you are in this place that you are supposed to be and where your mind saying, you know what? That too much pain. I can't quite with it yet. I'm going to kind of put it aside, just relax, relax, and be sad, be sad if you have someone to talk to, it's good to be able to talk to people if you can't talk to people sit down and write it down a little bit because that will help you focus your thoughts or talk to God going some place where your loan and talked to God out loud because that'll focus your thoughts but don't blame yourself where you are in the desert of grief. You know a lot of times what happens. We can go on for a long time and a lot of times people around you get tired of hearing about it and there's like, shouldn't you be over the spy? Now, just take your time, walk across the desert. It is a, we've all people who've anyone who's lived for a long time as I have has been through the desert of grief, just walk it pow step by step, but one foot in front of another, and you will get to the end of it and if and if you believe pray because God will let you get to the end of it in a place that is. Is a good place to let you come out of that desert Magoo place from Matthew. I am a proud, combat veteran will. Thank you, Matthew. We appreciate that. And I listened to daily while I don't agree with you on some things. I love your view point on freedom. I mean, that's what I thought for all these years. What is it that prevents everyone from reaching the seemingly unattainable goal, the freedom in America, and will it ever be reached? Well, you know, one of the things that George W Bush used to say that I used to just tremendously disagree with, he would say, every human heart yearns for freedom. And I used to think, you know, George W Bush's evangelical Christian. He read the bible. If you read the bible, if you read the story of exodus, the people are enslaved. They're being whipped. They're being forced to labor and under hard hard circumstances. And Moses comes and he says, to let my people go. And when I know he brings in God of showers curses on the land, you know, breaks the heart of Phero so that finally Ferro relents the people leave Egypt, their free. The find. Only free and the water's part. And when the soldiers of Egypt coming after them, God closes the waters over their head and their drown, and they get out into the desert. And suddenly there's no food and they say to Moses, hey, we were happier slaves. We had food, we had water now where what did you do where the no Greaves and Egypt that you took us out here into the desert? People don't want to be free. They want to be comfortable. They want to be safe. They want everything to go, okay. And if that means they have to give up their freedom, they will. That's original sin that is our broken nece, not yearning for the thing. God made us forgot Fritos for freedom. He made us for freedom, but we are broken. And so there's something in our heart says, okay, and slave me, but feed me, Lord Acton who was the greatest story in of freedom wrote that those who support freedom are always in the minority and they always have to make common cause with someone else. And sometimes that someone else is not a very nice person and so- freedom gets tarred with the desires of bad people. So for instance, if a racist says, I should be free. Free to not associate with black people. Well, yeah, he should be free to not associate with black people. He's a schmuck but but he should be free to do it. So as you're defending freedom, you get caught tangled up with this bad guy and it makes you and freedom look bad. And those are the kinds of things we face the broken of the human heart, and the fact that was always a minority who are fighting for true freedom. From Christina. Hello supreme leader? Cleveland. I am a writer and a woman. I love your commentary on men and your discussions on Raymond Chandler and the mean streets. I appreciate that you highlight how we all need to fulfil the honorable requirements. I was wondering if you could expound on that idea for women as a conservative in the writer. I like the structure of a hero's quest, but I still know for my own life experience that the hero's journey for women is different than that of men I did, and she says, I'd like to know what you think from a cultural and biblical perspective. You know. This is really true that women's hero journey is different. I've said this before that, the essential story at the heart of every story is Ken, the woman be loving enough to find a man and create a new generation and Ken be brave enough to protect her. Those are the things that the that we're kind of dealing with and can the men break away from his father. Can he become, you know, the man that he wants to be and can the woman become the woman that she wants to be. It's not, you know, they always feminists impose all these ideas of strength and all this stuff. Yes, it does take strength to become a woman and a full woman, but it also takes a certain kind of tenderness and loving this and vulnerability that men don't always express. You know, the person who writes about this. I have to tell you, and I know is plugging my own family, but as my daughter faith more, she has a website a blog about Disney princesses and she talks about the fairy tale. Show the women's journey because fairy tales are one of the great cultural contributions of women to society because they were all made up by mom's telling their kids fairytales and so faith. Anyway, if you go to faith k. more on Twitter, she will lead you to that will lead you to her blog site and you can read about that as well. But the woman's journey is different. It is more tied up with love. The man's journey is also tied up with love, but it is also tied up with a kind of physical warrior. Courage is required to protect the people he's going to create. The woman's journey is much more invested in recreation and recreate because men can't do that. Women superpower is to recreate the generation and all stories are kind of these stories that come out of the very deepest level of the human heart. How do we stay alive until the next generation I think is really what's underneath a lot of. From Isaac, dear Cleveland, the wise about ninety percent of my family, believe in literalist interpretation of the bible. However, I think more along the lines of Ben Shapiro Jordan Peterson when it comes to God in the bible, how do I convince my mom for example that I'm not going to help? Well, you know what? You don't have to worry so much about convincing your mom and and you know people people have different levels of understanding of the bible. But the important thing really is their faith and the fact that their faith connection to God and the God, God gives them meaning and fulfillment in their lives. You know, necessarily have to argue with your mom about faith. I mean, let her have version of faith and you have, you know, these are all metaphors that we use to get to the truth of God. I'm not saying the bible isn't true. I believe a lot of the bible is true, but I don't believe it literally every single place. I believe it has John rose in it and different ways of talking about God, but but you don't have to convince other people let let people have their faith and you never want to undermine people's faith. If you can help it unless they're doing something bad in the name of their faith. From Adam. Hello, Andrew, I'm writing this because a recent life event has led me to read the great good thing. The great good thing is my memoir of my conversion from Judaism to Christianity. And he's particularly reading the sections where you discuss your relationship with your father at one time in my life, my father was my closest friend. However, as years progressed, he struggled with alcohol abuse, and there was tremendous strain in our relationship just as I thought I was on the road to mending the relationship, he died in a house fire this past April. He was only fifty five years old and I'd like to believe that he might have turned a corner now I'm left to remember the good about him, but I'm struggling to make sense of the combination of grief. Anger love and the desire to forgive any thoughts. Yeah. Again, let yourself struggle with these things. Think these things through you want to be moving toward forgiveness. I did have a very difficult relationship with my father, but I did try to find forgiveness. And when I found forgiveness, I found it through will I willed forgiveness and the forgiveness, the feeling of forgiveness, followed my willing. That forgiveness, but be honest with yourself, you know, go through the relationship shorter through. That's very painful thing you've been through sorta through in your life. Hey, I've got to say goodbye to Facebook and YouTube, but come on over to the daily wire dot com. And they're, you can subscribe for a lousy ten bucks a month or one hundred bucks for the year. If you subscribe for the year, you get the leftist tears tumbler, but also more importantly get so much. You get Ben, you get Dole's which, okay, you know, you get knows that whatever that's worth, but you also get to be in the army, my mound bag noses, mailbag Benz, mailbag. You'd get to be part of the conversation that comes along when we do these back stages with our special guests. You get to ask questions there, good reasons to subscribe. Also, you get to watch the whole thing streaming live right on the website, and we don't have to cut you off as we have to now come on over to the daily wire dot com. All right. From Kurt Mr Clinton left this culture and mainstream media always state that fascism and the Nazis or product of the far right after watching two Nash to Susan's movie defamation. I'm now questioning this Mr.. Desouza presented compelling information that these two were product of the far left. He was basically saying it was the combination of progressive nationalism with Nazis. Also adding racism. He was also stating that the alt-right has more in common with the left than the right. What is your opinion on this? Okay. Well, an excellent book to read about this by the way Jonah Goldberg's liberal fascism. He goes through the entire history of it. It's a little murky. I, I loved the national great guy makes really fascinating movies and writes, really fascinating books. But I, I sometimes think he pushes this argument a little bit too far. Hitler was a man of the left. I think that is fair to say, but Nazism with its intense nationalism which in Europe is usually associated with a being a conservative with being right wing Hitler with his nationalism was kind of a hodgepodge. He was also a psychopath. He was an evil psychopathic. So that doesn't really have a party believe me, believe me, nothing will protect you. If you are an evil psychopath you can be an evil psychopath on the left. You can be an evil psychopath on the right, but here's the thing. The categories in Europe are different from the categories here, and that's why when you read a newspaper and it says far right party in Britain or far right party in France, it's different. Why? Because they don't have a constitution that they are trying to conserve. When we say here that we are conservatives we are trying to conserve the constitution when we want a constitutional literalist on the supreme court benches because we're trying to conserve the rights of man that has never been that has never been a conservative point it on on the far right. Certainly in Europe on the far right nationalism, blood and soil. I get this all the time by the way from people on the right here. And I, I guess it's the alt-right where I'll say, America is an idea. America is a creed. That's what the founder. Is believed. America is a creed into something you can ascribe to subscribe to the idea that all men are created equal that we have rights given to us from God, that the government is there to protect our rights. That is as far as I'm concerned, what we are trying to conserve as American conservatives has nothing to do with blood has nothing to do with soil. It happens to be here on America. What would you be? If you didn't love your native land, you would be some kind of empty shell of human being. What would you be? If you didn't love your native land? But having said that, yes, nationalism can goes too far. So my my point about Hitler is Hitler grows out of several trends in European history, the anti-semitism, which was a absolute embedded idea in Europe, the nationalism. Again, not particularly left wing idea, but they were national socialists. There were fighting the communists, but they were national socialists. Hitler was a man of the left. All that means is all that means is when the left immediately calls you Hitler. You can strike back by saying, hey, Hitler was a socialist. Okay. If you wanna get into that level of argument, that's what it is. But if you want look at it a little bit more deeply, it's a little murkier than that. All right. Hello. Hello supreme leader Clave and now we're talking now we're getting back to what's on my business cards. I'm a writer. I think I did that one already actually running out of time, but I'll do one more from John. My college roommate was born and raised in China, but has become more libertarian. He's lived here. He wanted to ask if communism is a result of actual need or simply result of want and greed has it ever worked? It never works. It never works because the logic of communism is the logic of slavery. We were talking about this with Alexandria. Google is Cortez the logic of communism. Is that your work? Would you own what you have created is belongs to the state, and that's why it always devolves. It always devolves into slavery. It always devolves into cruelty plus plus capitalism. This is so strange capitalism has lifted so many people. Out of poverty around the world and wherever wherever you have rule of law, free trade property rights capitalism, you have these incredible glorious benefits. Why? Because it uses the human soul, human nature to create the economy. It uses freedom to create the economy and that is kind of a miracle. It's all showing choice. It's all, oh, look, I made an iphone. Ooh, I want an iphone. I'm willing to give you some of my money for that. I mean, that is a beautiful thing. Even greed, even your greed starts to serve my need under capitalism. But when you put it all on the state, it all devolves into power, it all becomes about. I own what you made. I own your money. I on your time, I own your life. Even if it worked, it would be immoral, but it never works because it doesn't have the brilliant genius of capitalism and the brilliant genius of freedom. All right time to. Move onto ticketing booze. Well, I'm not so sure what's about this except it makes me laugh uproariously and I think that alone is something that is just incredibly worthwhile. Stormy Daniels has brought out her memoir, and as we might have imagined it is, you know a course depressing. You know, useless. I memoir of the fact that Donald Trump did what we all could have guessed did, which has slept with the point star, right? But she goes on to these incredible descriptions. These graphic descriptions, which I've now to my great shame actually read it. She describes his junk. She describes, you know, Trump's tower. And what she says is that is that he'd his junk looked like towed from mareo cart and as a gamer, I have to tell you this just broke my heart because I love all. All the Mario games games were like some of the first really great games I played. I played video games since they were invented. So I played them all, but Super. Mario was one of the greatest, and I cannot stand the fact that from now on when I see toad smiling little toad in in Mario Kart, I've got to think of Donald Trump's junk, but the thing that makes me laugh about this. Okay. Is how the the fact that the news is covering this, the news media covering this. This was important. Here's Jake tapper. Like what happened in Jake, Jake career. You had dignity, you are somebody now you're doing this. Listen to this lots of books claim to be tell all, but they don't follow through stormy Daniels new book about her life. It's not that book. Wow, she tells all from the details of her career in born to guess being in bed with the future president of the United States, and even being able to pick certain parts of him out of a lineup and then being threatened to shut up about an all these accounts are in there. Jake, Jake, Jake, here's the funny thing to me. I'm I am old enough to remember when they didn't even report that the president was having an affair it. You know, in the Oval Office or the JFK was banging everybody who walked through there. I mean, like the he had to aids, they called them fiddle and Fadhil that was their names for them who they were skinny dipping in the White House pulled together, and the press knew all this stuff and they just didn't report it. And when they first started to report on back in the eighties, I would say it was when they first started to report on the sexual shenanigans, powerful people, powerful men mostly when they first started to report on that. There was this big debate about whether it was relevant, important news because it was the character issue. And I made fun of this. I wrote this novel true crime which became the Clint Eastwood movie. And in that he says, the character issue is just a way of reporting about sex. All we wanna do is report about sack. Why? Because people want to read about sex because. People are salacious and they're judge mental and they're gossipy, and they wanna talk about sex or they will turn sex on. So while they were sitting there with their serious faces just like today, they're sitting there with Brett cavenaugh with their serious faces when it's all about politics, when they were talking about the the character issue back in the eighties, they were really just talking about sex. That's all they wanted to do. So now we have moved on, and now we have the horrible concept stuck in her head forever. Like I used to, you know, I've been walking around for days going like beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, singing, americium theme song because this thing is stuck in my head and now forever we have it stuck on our head that Donald Trump is walking around with toadstools. Guard. Pants, and that's the character issue. That's the serious serious character issue on top of this on top of this, the guy, one of the people who wrote for Sesame Street now says, yes, I'm a gay man and Bert and Ernie were gay. Puppets that puppets. They haven't even got toad stool. They haven't even got an interest profits. They don't have to be gay. They can just be POWs, I can just be friends. And if you wanna think of them as gate, go ahead but leave us alone, leave us alone. Your sex life doesn't matter to us us. And by the way, Frank Oz said, you know, he's the guy who created Burton Ernie and he says, they're not gay. The friends, of course, of course, they're just friends. We saw it on the air. They were pals. They were friends these guys with their obsession about sex. They will ruin everything. It really does. It really does have a right to be entertained. You have a right to watch Burton Ernie. You have affected play Mary, oh card without these clowns getting in your head with their filthy ideas. All right. I gotta say goodbye. It's been great. We will have a Glenn Beck here tomorrow. Will we not. I believe we will great the great Glenn Beck. I'm Andrew klavan. This is the Andrew klavan show. We'll see that. The Andrew klavan show is produced by Robert Stirling executive producer, Jeremy, boring, senior producer, Jonathan, hey, our supervising producer is Mathis Glover technical producer, Austin Stevens edited by Alex zinn. Garo audio is mixed by Mike Corinna hair and makeup is by Jesuit Olvera, and their animations are by Cynthia and Golo and Jacob. 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Ep. 297 - Pretty Fly (For A White Guy)

The Michael Knowles Show

47:36 min | 2 years ago

Ep. 297 - Pretty Fly (For A White Guy)

"President Trump waxes philosophic on his big beautiful wall. We will analyze the long tradition of his feet conservatives and philistine liberals, then independent democrat presidential candidate. Howard Schultz calls the green new deal immoral. Cory Booker says poor people shouldn't eat meat, and we ask do animals have feelings do white teenage boys. We will. We will ask the important questions. I'm Michael Knowles. And this is the Michael Knowles show. If you hadn't seen it. The cover of Esquire is causing a lot of mayhem and chaos because it features a white teenage boy in middle America. People are outraged the usual suspects are all feigning indignation at people want him off the cover. They think it's awful to have a teenage boy in the cover. This gets to a central bias central condemnation of the left. We'll get to it by the end. 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Find out how to get three months free to express VPN dot com slash Michael J L that's E X P R E S as VPN dot com slash Michael M I C H E L for three months free with a one year package. Visit express VPN dot com slash Michael. To learn more. Gotta take back that privacy. Before we get to whether teenage boys have feelings or not teenage white, boys. Let's talk about an overgrown teenage white boy, President Donald Trump who remains on the warpath. We talked about this yesterday. He's having a very good start to his week. He's had a very good previous week. And he just keeps undoing it keeps on winning. And there is even more good news now. So we talked about good potential news from his cabinet meeting. We'll go through that cabinet meeting today. We went talked about the rally down in El Paso. We talked about how he's winning public opinion. But now, he's even got some more trolling if you looked at his Twitter account this morning. He was referring to the Senate investigation into his improprieties with Russia, and he tweeted out not a daily wire clip. Not a Fox News clip. He tweeted out an MSNBC clip to celebrate this. News news exclusive reporting on the Senate intelligence committee their investigation into Russian election interference. And what they have and have not uncovered NBC's KENDALL lenient has just jumped in front of a camera to join me with his new reporting. So can what are you hearing? What are you learning how to years and interviewing more than two hundred witnesses? The Senate intelligence committee has not uncovered any direct evidence of a conspiracy between the Trump campaign and Russia. That's according to sources on both the Republican and the democratic side of the aisle, Halley, careful viewers, and readers will note that Senator Richard Burr, the chairman, the intelligence community who leaves this probe essentially said that in an interview with another network last week, but what I've been doing since then is checking with my sources on the democratic side to understand the full context of his remarks because that was essentially a partisan comment from from one side, but this is a bipartisan investigation, and what I found is that the Democrats don't dispute that all so President Trump included that entire clip from MSNBC because the shot and Freud is so much better. When your opponents or saying that what they're saying is the Senate intelligence committee was investigating Trump's links to Russia, Russian interference whatever they came up short. And now you could say well, the Senate is run by Republicans. And so it's no surprise that. They came up short, but what they're saying on MSNBC to their credit. They're at least admitting it is that they spoke to sources on both sides of the aisle on that committee. The Republicans said the investigation turned up nothing. The democrat said the investigation turned up nothing. Now, we predicted that this would happen weeks and weeks and months and months ago, of course, but we also saw that this was happening in particular right now last week when Adam Schiff that democrat congressman who's running all the investigations when he started shifting his focus away from Russia onto Donald Trump's financial interests. You realized they were coming up with nothing on Russia. Russia was the story if they. Could have said dumb from visited Russia. He ate borscht ten years ago. If they could have linked him, they would have stuck on that story. But they can't they came up with nothing. And so now they're saying, well, if if glad you're Putin is not buying off. But Donald Trump. We wanna make sure that nobody else is either. So we're going to look into all of his financial records since forever. And then we're going to make sure nothing is improper there. Now the reason for this. Of course, is that Donald Trump is a very wealthy, man. He has about a zillion businesses some of them succeeded. Some of them went under any guy who's worked for longtime and business is going to have very complex financials, and they're hoping to look in and find something untoward. Specially if you worked in real estate development in New York, you probably dealt with some shady characters. So now, they're just trying to rummage through Trump's trash and find anything that might be scintillating for for gossipers anything that might be scintillating to try to bring him down. But on Russia. What if they got? What thus far nothing? Now, we can wait for the Muller report. Maybe Bob Muller found something that nobody else was able to find maybe he found the smoking gun of Donald Trump colluding with Boris and Natasha. But right now as we as we have said since the beginning since 2016, it's just not looking like it. So the substantive question President Trump is obviously winning on this one issue that has dogged him you can tell you sort of let it get to him because it'll it'll just tweet out. No collusion crazy investigations. He mentioned it in the state of the union now on the substantive question will President Trump take a deal on the wall? Or will he shut down the government? So he shut down the government. And he said we need to get five point seven. I believe billion dollars for wall funding and five win seven billion dollars is not nearly enough to build the wall. So only enough to build a couple hundred miles of new wall, then the government shutdown longest shutdown ever. Then the government reopens, and he says I'm gonna open it for three weeks. But if we don't get to the negotiating table, if you don't give me money for the wall, then I'm going to shut the government down again. So will he shut it down? I don't think. So I don't think he's going to. I don't know. How important it is that he does actually will it depends on how else he can get the money. I think he likes his high approval rating, I think he likes that right now he is seriously winning. There's a lot of momentum in the public opinions fear for him. So I don't think that he wants to kill that approval rating and halt that momentum by shutting down the government again. Also, what would he be shutting it down four? He needs to build the wall. He needs to build the wall. If he can't do it. He's toast and twenty twenty. But if he can do it another way he should. So the deal on the table that has been struck by legislators that they're now bringing to Donald Trump asking his opinion on takes the amount of requested money down from five billion dollars. All the way down to one point three. Three seven five billion for a wall. That is a fraction of what they offered him for the wall. Obviously a lot less than he asked for and they won't be able to build much wall for this. What are they be able to build fifty miles maybe of wall? So why would Deng Trump take the deal? There's one really big reason why he would take the deal, and the reason is this. If he gets even one point four billion or one point three seven five billion for the wall, he can come back and destroy the Democrats fundamental argument, which is that walls are immoral which is that walls, don't work. That's been their argument now since the beginning Walser immoral ineffective, and they cost too much money, and what President Trump can say if he takes any amount of money if they give him fifty bucks out of their pockets. He can say, well, if walls are immoral than you all just committed an immorality if walls are ineffective, then you just gave me money for nothing. And if walls are too expensive than you all just wasted the people's money, even if it's only. Some of the people's money, even if it's only a tiny fraction of it. So I think there actually is an argument to take deal, even if the deal isn't going to build a whole lot of wall. Because then what is their argument when he comes back and says, we need more money for more wall. Are they going to say, it's immoral? Will you all did it already? I mean this. This argument was so effective for Republicans. When they pointed to Chuck Schumer and said, hey, Chuck Schumer in two thousand six you paid for the wall. Now, we it never got built or in a lot of places. It wasn't built. But you paid for it. So what what's changed now? Now, some Democrats in the house and the Senate were not susceptible to this attack. Because they weren't they are in two thousand six relative newcomers. But now if he gets all of them on the record as paying for this wall. What argument do they have? I'm not sure the the thing that needs to be addressed. Of course is how does he build the rest of the wall? If he just builds fifty miles of wall, he's toast in twenty twenty his his supporters will abandon him. If he can't build more than fifty miles of wall. What are we doing? What are we even doing here? It's his signature central campaign promise. So President Trump all of this swirling around in his head. He finally addressed the question of whether he would accept the dealer not at a cabinet meeting getting day. Beautiful looking structure that's also less expensive to build and works much better. But some good Commodore. Events because it was crazy with putting up. I have to think that the walls that they were building we're so unattractive and so ugly that wall's got bad names. Okay. If that means anything, but it was so ugly with rusted steel and big ugly plates on top that we're all team candidates called tin cans with wavy because the heat makes them expanding contract. They tend Gan actually why didn't you pay steel? Well, sir, we save money by not painting. And I said, yeah. But it's going to rust you have to pay. I've never seen. I've ordered a lot of them. I've never seen in my whole life. Still come to me that was unprecedented. So he goes on like this for a little bit. You'll notice the way he's talking about the wall. He's not talking about it in utilitarian terms. He's not talking about it, even as a matter of cost. 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Promo code podcast thirty save thirty dollars on every pair of Protagoras insoles. So President Trump is there at the cabinet meeting talking about the wall and the way he's talking about it is in aesthetic terms. He said the walls that they built before the fences they built before we're so ugly. They gave walls themselves a bad name. He said up at the top because the steel was poor quality, and it wasn't painted. It would start to tin can it would get waves threat. It would start to rust and President Trump was outraged that would start to rust good steal, you shouldn't rust. You should be able to paint it that way it won't rust. I I loved that. He's speaking in these terms this these aesthetic terms, these graphic terms show, a big difference with the left the left tends to be strictly utilitarian and conservatives are not I think in the popular culture, we get this backwards. We think of conservatives is the sort of stodgy old man, you reading the Wall Street Journal just counting the dollars in his Bank account and can. And liberals, rather, you know, they're the artistic ones man, they've got such cool artistic ideas in reality. It's the reverse because the left has very little immagination. The left has its ideology it's got its science of politics at science of history, and it's trudging along joyously toward progressive utopia. But on the conservative side conservatives have a more romantic view of the world more immense complex, intricate view of the world. We have a greater appreciation of mystery. We look at the world with greater all and wonder. It's no coincidence that the Big Mac daddy of conservative thought, the godfather of conservative thought, Edmond Burke, was a proto romantic. He inspired the romantics. He our main conservative modern founder, Edmund Burke before he wrote reflections on the revolution. In france. He was an aesthetic philosopher he wrote an inquiry into our ideas on the sublime. And the beautiful President Trump is going to write the revised and expanded edition. I think he's going to write a sequel to that. These terms obviously, President Trump has used these a lot on the campaign trail one thing that really set him apart. From the other candidates is the other candidates will be speaking and really dry policy terms and President Trump would paint a picture. He would paint a picture of John casick eating in a disgusting manner. Oh, you ever see the way that guy eats? It's disgusting. He's just stuffs his face. He's hovering over the plate. It's disgusting. And then you'd have this image in your head you'd have image of low energy, Jeb what is low energy evoke, maybe like a little atom with the electrons or dead or so just kind of guys slumped sort of like this little Marco, he's always sweating. He's always thirsty. So it gives you this image of a nervous guy guy reaching for water. Sweat pouring down his face. He was always painting pictures, and it created images that really stuck so threat that entire campaign when he gave you a nickname when he gave you a description it would really stick. This is a wonderful tool of conservatives and of the right, we should use it all the time. We should use our our vivid imagery or appreciation of a world that is more complex than some stupid. Little manifesto. You know, then here's the whole world in five bullet points, according to Karl Marx, the conservative, you is so much richer than that, we should use it. I mean, this is part of what makes leftism so inhuman leftism treats human beings, like material objects leftism says when our material needs are satisfied. Everything is great. So when Barack Obama was talking about jihad in the Middle East. He said all the reason that these guys are committing jihad is not because they're motivated by big ideas. It's not because they have a perverse view of God and the divine in the transcendent and the purpose of their lives. No, no, it's because they don't have jobs. It's because they can't afford. To buy ipods. No if these guys in jihadi land, if they could just buy ipods and watch TV oh, then they'd be. They'd be totally fine. They would it's just we're just automate on's were just material fleshy deterministic machines once you plug us full of material then we don't have any thoughts anymore. We this is the idea of the left. That's they they don't realize that human beings are not primarily material creatures were primarily, spiritual and artistic creatures g k Chesterton wrote about this. With the earliest men when you think about the caveman, what image comes into your mind, this sort of semi-conscious, big eyebrows. Not very smart guy who's dragging club in one arm and his wife in the other and he's dragging them around. And he's a brute he's barely capable of reason. And he's barely recognizable to us because that is the left. View of what human being fundamentally is. But we don't know that the caveman carried a club around. We don't know that the caveman dragged his wife by her hair. We don't know anything about the caveman other than this that he was an artist. Chesterton points this out the only thing weaned actually know about caveman is that they painted drawings on cave walls little animals in pigments. That's what they did. The actually the only firm thing we can say about our Hamad at cave ancestors is that they had an artistic sensibility. They wanted to reproduce their vision of the world in art, and they had an abstract enough reason and in sophisticated enough consciousness that they were able to do that they were able to see an animal in the field go into a cave, and by torchlight, or whatever paint the little animal in the cave. They had a sophisticated enough or tick sense that they could create the pigment in which to paint the animal that is a sophisticated creature that is creature so sophisticated. He almost looks like you and me. Turns out that our ancestors may have had a lot in common with us. It turns out maybe the essence of human humanity is aesthetically and conservatives really get this and even President Trump. I mean, you know, our image of President Trump is that he's walking around the field with a club in one arm and his wife and the other armed regular by the hair. But in reality when you actually listen to this guy talk, especially when he talks about building, especially when he talks about his career. He speaks in aesthetic term. So that's how he's viewing the wool premier laying a great way to view it. What about the deal itself? My happy I land. So I just got to say the answer is no, I'm not I'm not happy. But am I happy with where we're going? I'm thrilled because we're supplementing things and moving things around doing things that van destig- and taking from far less. Really from far less important areas. And the bottom line is building a lot of wall right now. We're building a lot of wall. And you think it's easy would building in the face of tremendous obstruction and tremendous opposition look at the comparison in just how when he's talking about the wall itself to when he's talking about how he's going to fund the wall. He starts to say at the letter. Yeah. Well, we're taking a lot of money from different areas, and frankly everybody, and it's going from an area it'll be in another area obstruction. He clearly cares. A lot less about that. I think he just wants to get the thing built. And so should he take the deal or not well, if he can take the deal and then tied around the Democrats next. That's fine. If and only if he can take the money from elsewhere Senator Ted Cruz has a great idea of where to get that money, which is that we've finally got El Chapo, we're putting them into an American prison. So he's not going to break out this time he's gonna break out like he did in Mexico and we seized fourteen billion. Dollars from him. President Trump only asked for five billion for the wall. How about we take all that fourteen billion through asset forfeiture? And then if you did that you would not only be able to build the wall, you would make Mexico pay for it you'd be able to make Mexico pay for it without Mexico actually, paying for it. So without making the Mexican tax payers pay for it or the Mexican government. You take like the worst Mexican of all time, and you just steal all his money, which is given up. Now, he's a prisoner. He's not getting that money back. And so you take that money you make Mexico pay for it. And specifically one of the main reasons we need this wall is because drugs keep pouring over the border. This guy's responsible for a lot of that take his money and make him build the wall, you broke it you buy it. It would be terrific. If we can do it, whether the asset forfeiture laws are such that. That's even possible is up in the air. Conservatives have been putting this idea for a long time. It's not just Ted Cruz or Donald Trump who can do it. Maybe it gets challenged in court, and maybe it's tied up in court for long. Time. It would be a great way to start doing it though. And in this very whimsical way, you could accomplish every single one of the campaign promises in a way that certainly not even President Trump could have expected, but President Trump is not the only person who's upset with Democrats these days for obstruction or radicalism. Democrat Howard Schultz is also upset with the Democrats. And here is why in a CNN townhall. He's asked this question as a lifelong Stony, and I've seen the damages the hurricanes cost to my city. And I watched as Harvey continued in a devastating way that damage so in the face of a warming climate that leads to more powerful storms how much already would climate change through ministration, and what are some plans to tackle that issue before we get to his answer? I would like to point this out. This is the trick that the left does all the time. He says as a native houstonians I have seen the damage that global war. Warming has done to my community live seeing what these storms that are caused by global warming. I've seen what they do. And it's I've seen global warming up close because of specific weather events. Global warming is whether the climate or is whether or not the climate because when Amy klobuchar gets covered in snow, and we mock her for saying global warming is happening. They say whether it's not climate. And then when this kid gets up there and says there was a big storm that affected Houston. Therefore that is global warming all of the left applauds and say, yes that is that specific weather event is the climate. But only that one because it confirms our biases not the other specific weather events. That's not climate what you'd have to be an idiot to think that those specific weather events climate, which is it you can it cannot be both you I know they want it to be. It's very convenient. When it's both is the premise here, by the way that before global warming. There was no such thing as hurricanes. They never though her. I ever hurricane happened in nineteen ninety seven that was the first abra hurricane ever recorded by human beings. We didn't even know what we thought the gods were coming down. They were so angry with us because of all the rain. No the first nineteen ninety seven right when global warming started that was the first hurricane. No. Of course, you have to pick one or the other. But for some reason conservatives let the left get away with this. They say, well, the extreme storms. What about the extreme blizzard up in Minnesota's that global warming? It you cannot have both ways. So Howard Schultz answers question. When I read the green new deal, and I try and understand what they're suggesting. I don't understand how you going to give a job for everybody. How you going to give free college to everybody how you going to create clean energy throughout the country in every building of the land, and then tally this thing up with thirty two trillion dollars on Medicare for all that's about forty trillion dollars. Plus, we are sitting ladies and gentlemen, with twenty two trillion dollars of debt on the balance sheet of America. So once again, not that I'm a business person or or an economist, and maybe an economist would disagree with me. But I think it's not it's immoral to suggest that we can tally up twenty thirty forty fifty trillion dollars of debt. Get to solve a problem that could be solved in a different way. And now, of course, he's right about this. The question is is this going to help him in his strategy to run as an independent democrat for president? Or is this going to hurt him? I think it helps him this. His whole strategy is that he has to split the Democrats. He's got a split the reasonable Democrats away from the insane radical intersectional leftists, and then he's got a siphon some votes off of Donald Trump. And then he becomes president. Now is this a likely strategy? See likely to become president. No. But anything could happen split. Look never say never when it comes to Donald Trump as they say. So I suppose there's a world in which it does happen, plus events change everything. So if Donald Trump goes spiraling down for some reason, he actually has a pretty good chance of doing it. I don't think that Howard Schultz is running a an intentionally futile campaign. I don't think he's running just to show the strength of possible third parties. I don't think that at all. I think Howard Schultz is running to win. He knows that. The odds are stacked against him. But he's going to put him in a pl- himself in a place where if something goes wrong, he could theoretically become president. Now, there is an appetite out there for less crazy Democrats. They're genuinely is what Okazaki Cortes and the green new deal people. Try to insist is that the American people broadly loved the green new deal. That's what they said. They said over eighty percent of democr-. Rats and over sixty percent of Republicans support the green new deal. And what that's those statistics are based on is a survey from Yale center for climate change communication. And it's a totally bogus survey which polled people who did not know what the green new deal is have never heard of the green new deal. And when it asked them about it, basically just said, hey, the green new deal is really great. And it's going to be really really great and its supporters say, it's really really great. Do you support it? And then they were shocked to find out that most people supported that. Really great thing. But when people actually learn about the green new deal is eighty eight percent of American energy destroyed costs forty trillion dollars at they're going to pay for by printing money out of thin air right out of the Federal Reserve that it's going to outlaw automobiles it's going to outlaw planes going to outlaw your house. It's going to take away your doctor and your medical care. It's going to take away unemployment insurance. It's going to force people under a backstop government job. When people find out about that the popularity of the green deal plummets to nothing. So there is a there is certainly a an appetite out there for a less crazy democrat Howard Schultz filling that he's not a Republican. Some people are trying to present him as this conservative guy. He's not at all. He really is a lifelong democrat, but there's an appetite out there for less insane. Democrats same thing on abortion. There's a new survey out today from yougov it shows that two-thirds of people who identify as pro. Choice in favor of abortion, oppose third trimester abortion. So two-thirds of people who think that they support abortion, actually, are pro choice think that after whatever twenty four twenty six weeks abortion should be illegal to say nothing of Ralph Northam, the governor of Virginia's idea that abortion should be legal after birth. We should be able to kill babies once they've been born. So there's a real appetite out there. Howard Schultz is a tough, dude. He's not a squish. He is running to win. He sees an opening for himself. I think it'll probably help Republicans broadly. But who knows and if he is able to bring the Democrats back to some modicum of sanity that would be a great service to the nation. But a guy who is a squish is Cory Booker. Cory Booker is telling everybody not to eat meat, especially poor people. We will get to the Democrats all trying to out woke one another then we will ask to animals have feelings then we will ask. Two white teenage boys have feelings, but I go to daily wire dot com. If you are on daily wire, thank you, very much you keep the lights on you. Keep co FA and my Cup. If you're not go over it's ten bucks a month one hundred dollars for an annual membership. You get me get the Andrew klavan show. You got the Ben Shapiro show yet as questions in the mail bag. Get them out wall show mailbags coming up tomorrow, get your questions in you get to ask questions backstage. We're doing a lot of those now get to ask questions in the conversation. You got another kingdom you get so much stuff now, and you get this the leftist tears tumbler. And by the way, if Howard Schultz does run hard for president through the general, and if he spoils the election for Democrats, and if because of him Donald Trump gets reelected, we're gonna put out the vintage, leftist, tears pike place roast. It's going to be some people say, it's bidder. I think it tastes so-so sweet go over to daily wire dot com. Get it. We'll be right back. Cory Booker is a vegan today. I guess, of course, he is. Did anyone really think otherwise all of these democratic candidates or trying to out woke one another other than Howard Schultz who basically is playing a different game? He says I'm not going to out Woeckel you idiots. I'm going to run on my own ticket. And I'm going to beat all of you. Because I have a lot of money. So we've got Kamla Harris yesterday talking about how she loves smoking pot and listening to snoop Dogg. Even though snoop Dogg didn't come out with his debut album until seven years after sh comma Harris said that she was smoking pot. Okay. Then you've got beta a work writing his little diary entries like a teenage girl. You've got Elizabeth Warren now addressing an Indian group. She's doing again, she she appeared at another Indian group and talked about how important it is to support Indians. This is her white whale. This is she cannot give this up. I think maybe for a couple of reasons one she lied about it for so long that it's really hard for her to stop lying about being native American and two because of her own sense of virtue. Either the vote how she wants to appear virtuous to her voters or even her own sense of virtue herself these which she has done is lie about her race for decades to her professional advantage and actually to the disadvantage of real native Americans. And now in her mind, and in the mind of voters, she hopes she's supposed to be a really good virtuous person. She's so much better than mean, bad guys like Donald Trump, those are bad people. But she's a good person. Accept it turns out, she's not a good person. She's a race fraud who disadvantage native Americans to get ahead in her career. Not a good person jet leased as bad a person as the rest of us. She is not Saint Elizabeth. She is not holier than thou. She's a race fraud. And so. She can't get over it. She keeps going back. She. So let me release DNA results say, I'm right? I'm good person. I'm not Aligarh in a race road. I'm a good person. Let me apologize to the Cherokee nation plea. See, I'm good. I'm good believe that I'm a good person. She can't out woke this. She's not this is going to dog her if she'd had an answer on this. She would have come up with one already, but she hasn't it's dog or for longtime. She made her teepee she can lie in her teepee. And now it's looks like it's killed her presidential campaign, which is going to keep going back to it. It's going to keep being funny and now to outwit them all Cory Booker is focusing on being vegan at these the thing you'll notice about all of this. Smoking pot listening to snoop Dogg writing little diary entries about your feelings trying on new identities trying on racial minority identities that you don't even really have. But. You just want to kind of craft that identity being vegan. What do all these things have in common? These are all phases that teenagers. Go through. Teenagers. Go through all of these phases. Some more than others. It's because Democrats these candidates don't have a serious sense of purpose. They don't have a serious sense of maturity, they don't have Assyria sense of identity. So they just keep cycling through these phases like teenagers. They're behaving in a shallow sof Moric way. They don't they just never got to the next stage of mental and spiritual development. And so they just keep trying on these different phases. These little fads here is Cory Booker. Cory Booker whining as he usually does defending veganism against his critics just as heartening to hear somebody in this day and age in the United States of America say basically implicate that gay men are not meant that. They're not. Is that was the wrong clip? Maybe maybe that was the wrong clip. That was Cory Booker talking about another rumor and actually really the woke prize of them. All there have been public. Rumors for a long time that Cory Booker is gay and he's always denied it. Then he came out with this bombshell story last week. Cory Booker has a girlfriend, you know, she's living up in Canada. None of us have ever seen her. But yeah, he has got a girlfriend. I don't know. Who cares? I I don't really care if Cory Booker is gay or not. But that would be the woke prize that would be the if a candidate came out as openly gay during the primary could you ever out woke that the only way to out woke that would be to come out as transgender or something, which I guess any of them could do at any given time. But this is what Cory Booker is doing his leaning and all this white whenever as the question about being gay says, well, so what if I am maybe maybe I n gay. I'm not gay. But what if I am? And he's trying is pushing this line. I don't know whether Cory Booker is gay or not frankly, I don't know of Cory Booker is vegan or not. But they're just trying to check all of the behavioral boxes what they've you. As the ideal behavioral boxes of the left. Have a nontraditional diet have a non traditional sexuality smoke. Nontraditional drugs. Have a non traditional ethnicity? Even if you have to make one up out of whole cloth. Like, Liz Warren that is what they're all aiming for and you'll notice what none of this has anything to do with is public policy. None of this has anything to do with actually doing the job of president or even their own experience in life. They're just talking about little fads that teenagers. Do the latest. One now being veganism. This does raise a real question, which is what is the morality of veganism do animals have feelings as was recently asked in an article, I think in the Atlantic or animals morally significant this was really good. I encourage people to read it every so often, you know, Kate Flanagan always publishes good stuff in the Atlantic. And she's the one person who does and then all the other stuff in the Atlantic is trash barely read it anymore, except every so often, they publish a good piece. So this one they asked do animals have feelings and they talk about the Jane's in India. And these this group of people who has a religious devotion to animals, and how they understood long before the west did long before those idiot westerners, these eastern spiritual people realized that animals are really super conscious and they suffer all the time. And they're just as complex as humans, and we can never even look at them the wrong way. Here is the sort of fake science that they use in throughout this article in the article, they say, quote in one experiment honeybees were attracted to a boat at the center of a lake which scientists stocked with sugar water when the beans flew back to the hive, they communicated the boats location with waggled dances. The hives. Other bees would usually set out immediately for a newly revealed nectar load. But in this case, they stayed put as though they'd consulted a mental map and dismissed the possibility of flowers in the middle of a lake other. Scientists were not able to replicate this result, but different experiments suggest that Beezer capable of consulting mental map in this way. What because all they want. This is the new move that everyone wants to do they wanna prove that animals are just as conscious as we are they anthropomorphized animals because they they can't stand the idea that man has dominion over the land in. See they can't stand the idea that man is superior to the other animals. No, we're all just the same thing. We're basically just slightly more advanced honeybees. But even though the way that they say it the im- look at their imagination the imagination of these scientists, and especially this writer the honeybees were communicating really sophisticated way this location far far away on a lake in the middle of a boat, and the other honeybees they were all going to go over there to get the sugar water. They didn't of course. But that's just because why because they they had thought about it. Then we're thinking about it, really complexly. And then, but then they they didn't do it because they rejected it they had some meetings, and they held a couple elections. Probably. And I don't know they built up huge civilised. And then they just didn't do it and scientists weren't able to replicate any of the stuff we're saying, but they're really really really smart. You guys. This is the product of I think in idolatry of scientific materialism. This is a product of an idolatry of processes of natural evolution people who want to erase the distinction between man and beast, but human beings have intellect. And will we are different? We are categorically different from animals. This is not popular, according to modern orthodoxy. But it remains true. And attempts to present some other idea or to up end that always end up in silly, mental gymnastics and unscientific conclusion such as this. But it says a lot about our society, our modern material secular society that we are so desperate. To make ourselves the same as animals, we wanna level ourselves down in this Galateri in ISM not just of the species. But of all the species, we unlevel ourselves down we want to anthropomorphized and exalt and raise up animals. This is pagan, and there is a reason that they're comparing this to the Janes or ancient Indian religions, this is paganism, and we have a new paganism on our hands because we are rejecting the natural order and all of the philosophical and theological and scientific fruits of our civilization. So I don't think animals have feelings do white men have feelings. There's a wonderful piece in Esquire called the life of an American boy seventeen and the big this is so awful this piece talks about a white teenage boy in middle America. He's on the cover of Esquire. How dare they? How dare you put a white white teenage boys of the worst? White teenage boys are the only group in America that the culture permits and actually encourages us to hate and condemn you. Remember what those Covington boys who were waiting for the school bus in DC, everyone jumped on them tried to turn them into awful, racial, bigots. Whatever then it turned out. It was exactly the opposite. And the senior culture writer of BuzzFeed and Helen Peterson said, well, you can understand why that face caused a visceral reaction so many he's a young white guy in one yo- young guys are the worst. There was that piece in the daily news about how young white guys with Brown hair or evil, and we should ruin their lives. That's the culture that we live in. Now, actually, the reaction that this piece has prompted is evidence that the pieces urgent and timely the the the big line. Now, they say how dare you run that cover during black history month. Do you you can only do black things during black history month. You can't do any non black things during black history month, you have to wait until white middle-class teenage boy month to run the cover of that kid on squire. I don't know when white middle class teenage boy month is it's not as though Esquire doesn't put black men on the cover of their magazine. They do it all the time and just the last year or two they put on Idris Elba. Hurrell Chad bozeman dunked Glover, plenty of you don't need you. You don't only limit black men to one month. You know, you can have black men in any month of the year. It's okay. They're not outlawed during all the other eleven months. This is how the piece begins. It says Ryan Morgan is seventeen and happy to be a guy to be girl would mean he'd have to deal with a lot more drama he'd likely have to deal with mean girls, and he doesn't end up a mom a could end up a mom rather, which he doesn't ever want. Because being a mom is hard. Probably the hardest job in the world. Also, he might not think football was his interesting. He isn't sure what would be interesting. It isn't football. Then he has an interested other than that. He doesn't think there are too many reasons it would be better to be a guy than a girl unless you're from the Middle East or maybe the inner city. This is a profile of the way that a seventeen year old boy in America is thinking so it has all of these things he seems like a perfectly moderate kid, by the way, it's not like he's some guy wearing a Trump hat every single place. He goes he saying being a mom is the hardest job in the world. The reason he wants to be a guy is because that's who he is. He can't really imagine being girl, but in the abstract he doesn't think it would be terrible to be girl unless you're not living in western civilization. We would actually is pretty terrible to be girl. The editor of the magazine sent out a letter explaining why he put this piece because he knew that there would be pushback, the the piece that he wrote then that letter is called why your ideological echo chamber isn't just bad for you. It's also bad for your kids. And it is this is really bad. We live in a very confusing culture where we're told to judge people only on their character, not on the color of their skin or superficial physical characteristics. Were also told that white teenage boys or the worst people. People ever the embodiment of evil other than maybe grown straight white men who think that they're meant that's the top of the intersectional pyramid. But they're just awful people accept but don't judge anyone on their Skinner on their sex. We're told that men and women are so exactly the same that. There's no difference whatsoever. Men can be women women can be men sex barely exists. And then we're also told if you treat women. With in a certain way. If you don't if you don't treat men and women exactly the same. You know, if you. You can never hit a woman. Now. Of course, we all know, you can never hit a woman. You can't hit a woman because men and women are different. But of men and women are exactly the same. Why can't you hit a woman? If there's no, physical or spiritual difference whatsoever. We're told a lot of confusing messages. We're told that everyone is entitled to his opinion think outside the box, diversity tolerance. And then as this oracle shows, if you're a white teenage boy who holds an opinion, you're told shut up you have privilege, you're not entitled to have an opinion. Shut your mouth check, your privilege and stop talking. He's a very confusing messages, a very confusing time, a very confusing leftist culture that gave it to us the Esquire piece of beautifully and bravely analyzes that. I encourage you to read it's very long piece, and you should read it and post about it too. 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"Young Turks drop it. Popo power panel. Jerry Jackson, no me prince John Rolla. I'm Jay cougar? How're you doing? Great. How are you? Awesome. Okay. So we have tons of exciting news for you guys. We are at the turning point I, we will explain a little bit later in the program. What do I mean by that? There is two piece of news today that I think will begin the final countdown. So yes. So you can sing along with me. So is it Cavanaugh? No, we have huge story. I cabinet, but that is not. Is it Michael Cohen, flipping even more and cooperating with the prosecutors give partly. But the biggest story today is Rosenstein. So we're going to get to that in a little bit and it is it will likely set off the Domino's. So. So at some point, there's some chance on the show today. We will yell, Domino's mother? No. Okay. Probably will not do that. Okay. We also major news about. The interesting thing related to the young Turks. I'm going to do that in a second hold. All right. 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But yesterday I mentioned to you somebody that's really important, progressives and how it got under my skin. It does happen from time to time. So I wanted to make sure that I followed up with you guys and it is about a topic you're familiar with an and probably have similar feelings as I do about the frustration that it caused with the mainstream media. Okay. So CNN has consistently being questioning, progressives, Alexandria, cross Cortes in particular about her programs to help American people that's obviously an outrage if you do tax cuts for the rich to the tune of trillions of dollars. Well, of course, we can afford that wars for trillions of dollars. Well, of course we can afford that, but you want to help somebody get healthcare in America. We're gonna pay for it. So in fact, let me just show you a couple of quick clips. Here we did this earlier. Jake tapper, Chris cillizza is on a follow up that I wanna share with you guys. Then we'll comment on, but I want to show you the tone of tappers questioning and the substance of it as well. So we already shared with you across your the responses in an earlier clip. So this is just as a warm up to solicit less. Remind you tappers questions. Let's watch according to a nonpartisan and left leaning studies friendly to your cause, including the center on budget and policy priorities or the tax policy center. The overall price tag is more than forty trillion dollars. Dollars in the next decade. You recently said in an interview that increasing taxes on the very wealthy plus an increased corporate tax rate would make two trillion dollars over the next ten years. So where's the other thirty? Eight trillion dollars gonna come from. So as we explained to you earlier, that is greatly misleading. First of all, he said, if from left leaning think tanks, yes, some of the smaller numbers, the thirty, two trillion dollar number, which I think is the the great majority of the forty trillion if I can do my math right? And I'm pretty sure I can comes from the coke funded study at George Washington University, but he made it seem like, oh no, these are all things that are coming out with it, but more important than that as we've gone now over several times thirty two trillion dollar number is does not exist on its own. That is the cost of healthcare in the country. And so every proposal would counter that we would take away some percentage of that money. Now, progressives have shown, and we've shown on this program over and over. Again, even that coke fund is study shows you if you actually applaud Medicare for all as it currently exists, it would save us thirty four trillion dollars. That's the thing that Jake tapper left out. So that would be a net two trillion dollars in savings. And instead of talking about this monstrous forty trillion dollar number, we'd be talking about obviously a much smaller number six trillion. But even if you thought, hey, you know what? It's not going to save us two trillion. It's going to cost us two trillion. And that's what the conservatives might argue. Well, you still not talking about forty trillion dollars. You're talking about ten trillion at that point. So the whole thing is grossly misleading and Alexandria. 'cause Cortez. Countered by, hey healthcare, actually the Medicare for all proposal saves money. Very similar point to the one I'm making right now, but tapper was not convinced. And at the end of the interview, he ended it this way to me. I'm not going to get an answer for the other thirty eight trillion dollars. I'm not gonna for that. Okay. I'm not sure that you wanna that answer but still CNN process. So Chris cillizza apparently progressives responses to this. I don't know if he got under his skin or they just love this topic so much because they can't wait to show that they're not liberal media by beating up on progressives and and of course it depends on whether you're right or not. So facts do matter. So let me quote solicit here is it on Sunday? Siennas Jake tapper put a very simple question now. Sandra does. How are you planning to pay for the many in various expensive programs and plans that you're either proposing or support the New York soon to be congresswoman didn't have any answers like none. He said, wait a minute, Chris. She explained for three minutes how Medicare for all would save money. Now, I guess you're hanging your hat on. We'll. She didn't go through the math and Jake tapper presented let us know and we looked into this and we asked CNN about it. We asked some of the groups that the cited is there those this number exists anywhere else to forty trillion dollar number. The tapper asked her about right there and know it appears that it's CNN's math. They took a number of studies and put them together. So the reason why that's important is because this is the first time Alexandria Kassir Cortez or anyone has ever heard of that number. So you couldn't possibly have prepared ahead of time for this question. So then they say, okay, here's forty trillion dollars. I put up in a graphic which you might or might not be able to see as a guest, and I need you to answer right away is she gives the best answer. She can wait a minute. The thirty two trillion dollar number actually is not accurate because Medicare for all which save us money and they go. There's like, no, like none. That's not true because you're not paying attention because you don't want to pay attention. So I, he goes on, he says, let's by Indo customer Cortez case that costs when shrink the government rather than the free market. Rantings pause there to note that apparently she did have an answer. Okay, not none. So apparently you acknowledge that he goes on to say, let's even say that it would have the cost of the programs that she supports making the law. That's still twenty trillion dollars, which is which has to come from somewhere, right? No, Chris, Chris, look, it's incredible how smug they are and how condescending they are when they're preposterously wrong. Why would you have the number that doesn't make any sense have disa- combination of college for all Medicare for all and number of different programs. It's a weird thing to say, let's have the number. No, if you. Took out Medicare for all, taking out the thirty two trillion dollars. You're having a completely different conversation. And by the way, as tapper pointed out in the beginning because Cortes said, if you take away the Trump tax cuts, that's another trillion dollars. If you do the speculation tax, that's another two trillion dollars and so on and on next to, you know, there's actually very little to make up if you had to quote unquote, make up anything, and I get to the substance of the of how they're thinking about it wrong in his second, but their math is preposterously wrong, but yet the condescending. Whereas we made up of bunch of numbers and then we made up having them. And then we claim that you don't have an answer for things that we made up out of whole costs. So let me give you the rest and I want everybody to jump in. He goes on to say the truth that our customer Cortez doesn't want acknowledge is that the only at least the most likely way that she fills a gap between cost-savings of the actual cost of the programs she's proposing to raise taxes, yes, on the wealthy, but also for being honest on more than just the wealthy raising taxes is never popular, no correction, Chris, it is actually quite popular among the American people if you actually looked at the polling, but you don't. Instead you're in group think and in Washington Republican, prince told me raising is now all my rich friends told me the recent tax is not popular look at a poll, Chris and actually is popular. These tax cuts where they cut taxes to the tune of two trillion dollars at one point, I think pulled a seventeen percent. Have you ever looked at. Any polling. So I'm sorry if I'm being condescending, but I believe you started. Okay. Tapper is doing an import. He says, I love this one tapper is doing important public service here solicit says, well, we really appreciate it. He's highlighting the difference between campaigning and governing the truth is that as a candidate you can be for almost anything because he don't have any responsibility. You aren't in charge of managing the federal budget or reducing our deficit and debt obligations. Free stuff sounds great, but free stuff is almost never free. Oh, look at the conversation. Tripping. Yes, yes. Oh, free stuff isn't free. We're giving it to the rich and all of a sudden trillions of dollars materialists at a nowhere. And he concludes with jase interview made very, very clear Cossio Cortes isn't there yet. And by the way, that's just a little bit of sexism sprinkled in there like, oh, Cortez young woman doesn't understand how to how ages of perhaps that doesn't know how to govern. But the most important thing. If you put the sexism ageism in center side, is. Gopher and but had Chris, Jake, did you guys for one second ever considered how we're governing today? And I don't mean just under Donald Trump. I mean under your beloved is under your beloved status quo. It's been an absolute disaster. Epic deficit after deficit under Republicans and Democrats, and in the tax cuts and the wars and the spending and all those things that never got us any of the results that they promised. Do you remember that the Bush administration and congressional hearing center there wreck war would cost one point, seven billion dollars instead it costs several trillion dollars. And did you ever ask them how dare you, you obviously don't know how to govern look at these children in the Bush administration. Child. Dick Cheney doesn't know how to govern foolish. John Bolton doesn't understand anything about money. Did you ever put up a graphic and say, Joe, where's the money. Where's the money? Whereas it trillions of dollars you wasted? No, never. Because you assume the status quo is a great thing, whereas the rest of the country does not. We think the status quo is a disaster. Well, I think look, obviously going back to the skyrocketing, skyrocketing costs of the war effort, and you know, Iraq and Afghanistan that that's certainly true, but we don't even need to go back that far. I mean, they just passed the defense budget this week, six hundred seventy three billion dollars that's never expressed in the same way. You know, what does that actually mean over the course of a decade while we assume if it doesn't go up and of course it always goes up. That's six point, seven trillion dollars right there. We can afford it. I, some of my favorite free stuff is military stuff, but free stuff isn't free. So how are we gonna afford that? They would never ask that question of anyone democrat or Republican live or conservative because with certain types of programs, the assumption is that the value is there if they say we need seven hundred billion dollars in the actual budget, not including continuing expenses and things like Syria. Obviously, we need that. We need to have military defense budget levels that are similar to under at Phnom even though we're not in a war, even close to comparable. If they do the tax cuts. The assumption. Is that the value is there. Republicans always say that if you cut taxes that will actually generate more government revenue, so they just assume that that is the case. I didn't hear him going through that list of the programs under the the DA is he was labeling it and talking about all the benefits of that. If you cut these student loans, what do you think happens to the money that the people would have been spending other loans? They'll be spending on other things which not only stimulates the economy but also produces more government revenue. We know that on the on the opposite way, when you cut people's taxes, people who were already making millions or potentially more each year. They're not then plowing that saved money back into Starbucks and buying cars. They're generally putting the money offshore, so they've got it exactly twisted. Jake tapper could take that same sort of condescending attitude and make a great career out of applying that seems sort of rigorous standard, hopefully attached to the facts to every politician that comes before him. But he, of course, will not do that. He will do that with libs and probably just young Latina female libs like Alexandria, custody Cortez. He will never take that tone with Steve king or anyone like that. Mick Mulvaney Paul, Ryan tax cuts, always things that happened. They'll criticize Donald Trump that someone who's not ready for primetime. The guy for the entire election talked about all the promises you can make promises when you're live. He brought up. Of course, he brought up a along with Alexandra Akasa quotas. He also brought up Andrew gillum just I dunno decides to name in there too, because you know all of these guys who are new to the scene, at least in your mind. It's not like he has them to do anything until it has for all these years. It's just that, oh, you just heard their name nationally means they don't know what they're doing. Of course, yes. There's criticism for Donald Trump for his craziness over the top rhetoric. Mainly talks and responses always all, but he's he's connecting with the people. So k. to connect with the people Miller country that you're saying the heartland of the country, but not for the people who she's in New York, somebody's in California, all those crazy libs all they want his handouts. When you see a words person getting handouts, which they did, and then it all gets siphoned out. We at terrified where people are losing jobs, I'm Trump was promising carrier jobs. Harley Davidsons losing. He doesn't know how these things work. The point out that that's happening, but they then won't say, and why should we trust them with anything else? They'll just say, hey, what crazy with that? The next step is the next thing he says is gonna screw you over to. They'll see that here because I'm telling you there's something happens with liberals and Jake tapper is pretty good on a lot of socially progressive things. I think from what I've seen, but they're still something inside uniform. A lot of liberals that they see young woman, a young minority of either gender and they'll go. I, I can't see her making legislation that I have to follow. It doesn't feel good to them. There's still something that some people stomachs they don't like seeing that face do something for the country that they have to follow. It might be a thing on on women mouth to. I mean, I, I haven't degree in mass. I've got a graduate degree in statistics. I. Allan talk a little bit about some of the things you mentioned about how we can dig into what Jake tapper didn't do and think about how this really benefits the economy, whatever the cost is because a cost is also a reallocating. That's what happened when, for example, the fed created at a nowhere, four and a half trillion dollars to give to the US banking system to allow them to be prosperous. Instead of say, taking a third of that one point, four trillion which is a correct number on on on tappers lists and using it to defuse the student debt. So that when students actually graduate, they can go ahead and pay for things and not have to pay for all their debt similar with healthcare right now. And that's I think, where this number came from, we pay as Americans three point, four trillion dollars a year in healthcare. So what the that basic study that tapper chose to use. I in the interviews and okay, we'll ten times that's thirty four trillion. So that's the number which has ne. Nothing to do with anything of all. That is a number that includes increases in hospital costs increases in premiums. It doesn't look at more importantly the deflection of any money, whatever the right number is from paying premiums and paying additional healthcare and paying from other things that could go into the economy into preserving one's life or one's health. For example, right now, the average family in the United States pays about eight thousand dollars a year in healthcare costs, five thousand dollars sometimes per individual. If you told everyone you're getting a five thousand or eight thousand dollar tax cut. In other words, we are reappropriation that money in order for you to actually use that in your pockets so that you can you put that into the economy that looks like a really great game. And that is a much smaller game than the one and a half trillion dollars of tax cuts that went to corporations who only pay for nine percent of the federal budget. So all of how we should be looking at the essence of what Andrea said and what Bernie Sanders says. And what progressive state, which is that we need to choose how we grow our economy. Do we grow our economy by funding stuff that doesn't go into the economy but makes GDP look better or do we fund the economy by taking things into the economy that can allow citizens to be healthier and citizens to be more productive, economically and raise GDP nowhere in any of the conversations that attack. What progressives want to do with their spending indicates the increase that happens on the other side of reallocating funds away from helping those that don't need it and re attributing that to people who can use it into the real economy, whether that is after school, whether that is instead of healthcare costs, whether that's to grow businesses, whatever that might be raised GDP actually inflate the economy. So that as a country, we're not paying seventeen percent of GDP in healthcare costs versus nine percent and almost every other developed country almost more than you know, basically double, but we're actually increasing GDP and reducing healthcare costs that we are healthier as a nation. For people. I wanna make one final comment about their view of the status quo and and look. I agree with that that they probably socially liberal I, you know, and I've credited Jake tapper in the past for some good segments, and we try to be fair hearing now here all try even more here. Look, I think you guys might make some good points that I mentioned to about. You know, is that their age is, is it that their new onto the scene is that it's mainly to this an ironic way being fair to them, but their disdain for progressives in general, because they have showed the same disdain to Bernie Sanders. And so and he's obviously a different category. And so, but in their world view, these guys are all outsiders don't ought to govern day thought about of Bernie Sanders that way for the last forty years to them, he seems like a radical for proposing things that in almost every issue about sixty percent or higher of Americans agree with it is not a radical position. Again, I asked you to look at the polling. I asked you that from the outside because you almost never invite us on the inside. So sometimes you'll talk to Bernie Sanders. You get a three minutes segment with Alexandra customer Cortez, and then you follow it with like progressives, Kim, every answer the questions this because you don't ask them you, you ambushed her with a made up number and then never followed up with any other progressive other than the pounding. They can't answer. They can't history. Will you actually have him on air. This or no. Me just keep. She's a former managing director of Goldman Sachs has written a number of bestselling books about these issues. I think there's plenty of progressives should choose from somehow, CNN never gets them on air. There's wall-to-wall Trump people. There's wall-to-wall Clinton people, but when it comes to progressive. Today. No, here Amazon for three minutes and then make fun of them for a week afterwards and don't let them defend themselves but and maybe their look again, I guess I'm going to sound a little condescending here, but to complaint this game, maybe they're afraid of the answer that have we came out there and we made these points, they'd like, whoa, that's we don't talk about that on here. So for example, JR alluded to, you know, with progressives, they are always saying, oh, you want free stuff. You want free stuff. That's a Republican talking point. Oh welfare, the welfare queens stuff. But hey, how come you guys almost never talked about corporate welfare and an amazing study between two thousand ten in two thousand fifteen. The two hundred top companies who gave money to politicians gave an astounding five point, eight billion dollars, but you know what they received in return four point, four trillion dollars in subsidies, or is your graphic about that? Oh, right. You're a multi-billion dollar corporation. So maybe that's what makes you uncomfortable. But Anna. A lot of those people advertise on your airless, keep it real, and maybe that's why you don't want progressives on here. But the reality is that if there is well for this country, people who want free stuff, it's corporate welfare and they've robbed us the tune of trillions of dollars. So you'll excuse us that when someone proposes to spend money on the American people that we get excited by that because for the first time it would be representatives representing us rather than the corporate donors. Okay. Look, I can go on and on the whole point about cops, but we gotta go. Different stories for you guys. We gotta take a quick break here, then some of the most important things. I believe the dominoes are about to begin with Rosenstein and and Cohen. So come back and do. Bag. Young Turks to comments here. I'm going to power through them. 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If they're on Monday, if they're on a later day, we will cover it on that day. So we will definitely be covering it. Live make sure you tune into TY t. or. Yeah, and to be clear the entire run of the entire day. Okay. All right. Let's talk about this. Actually. There have been any number of people in both media and politics who have stepped up in the past week or so to launch absolutely horrible and worsening attacks against Christine Blasi Ford for having accused brick half an of sexually assaulting her several decades ago. But up until this morning, Donald Trump had show. Into mostly sit on the sidelines, which is not really. That's really normal for him, especially considering his own dark past in this area of both harassment and assault and his steadfast support for any man accused of these things including rob porter and all of that. But as of this morning, he is off the sidelines these in the game. And here is how he has decided to weigh in on this topic saying, judge breath Kavanagh's a fine man with an impeccable reputation who is under assault by radical left wing politicians who don't want to know the answers. They just want to destroy and delay facts don't matter through this with them every single day in DC. The interesting thing to remember about that as we proceed to his other tweets that he says, the other side doesn't want to know the facts. So bear that in mind. Second tweet, I have no doubt that if the attack on Dr Ford was as bad as she says charges would have been immediately filed with local law enforcement authorities by either her or her loving parents. I asked that she bring those filings forward so that we can learn date time and place. Again, he. Aunts to learn date time place. He wants the facts in that second tweet, but now we get to the third where he says, the radical left lawyers want the FBI to get involved. Now, why didn't someone call the FBI thirty six years ago. Let's the interesting thing you seem to desperately want to know what was going on and then you attack them for involving the FBI an organization whose job is to find out what is going on. I think that we would all like to understand a little bit more about what is going on right now, but also what happened thirty six years ago. He seems to have a very weird tenuous approach to that. That's just one part of it though. Of course, the thrust of his argument is that her not willing to go forward to the police when it happened as a seventeen year old should really make you question whether she knows what happened is remembering it wrong. Maybe as making up the entire thing. There's there's shades of a conspiracy in some of those tweets. This is but described, of course, as slut shaming also advancing long, many times debunked myths about how sexual assault survivors choose to function and whether we. Should believe them based on the way that they act as rain, made clear organization that deals with sexual violence in reality, seven out of every ten victims don't report to the police and they go on to explain that while seven out of ten don't report of those who do very, very few four smaller fraction, get any sort of Justice. All of these. These things are contributing factors to people not wanting to come forward, and I would now add to that list the fact that the president United States, possibly the single most powerful person in the world is coming out and attacking a victim of sexual assault. This is a president who tends to pay people off, not to talk about things that he imagines happened. True. It could be that the method in which Kevin could have handled something that may have happened in his mind would have been how he would have handled it. So that's all convoluted. The reality is, you know, as you said in those stats not and proportionately most victims of any kind of a salt don't come through and they don't come through specifically for the reason that they could be shamed. They might not be heard they are dealing with it in their own personal and in her case, that's what she was doing for all that time. It wasn't like she wasn't potentially stressed or that you didn't go to therapy or she didn't have all of the activity around in around the past and what happened in her mind and in how she developed her life. But that said, you know the guy who is the president of the United States, and you know, kudos to him for like holding together for two days and not going after her for him. But that is just just just another. Litany of shameful ways in which he he misbehaves because the reality is his job is to say, just part of what you just went over. I want to know what happened and we should continue to determine what happened as well as what. Kavanagh's other questioning might amount to. Bye bye. Bye by committee as he goes through here, and this is a guy who could possibly or not be taking over in major seat for a long time, possibly more than thirty six years in the supreme court. That's all he should be doing. So let's note a couple of things for the record here. The FBI would not have been able to investigate that crime thirty six years ago, it'd be local law enforcement Trump doesn't know that on the other hand, what does Trump now? And on the other hand, he said, just thought the day that destroying that be, I would be one of his crowning achievements of his administration. So and and you have to know this an important fact that only the president can ask the FBI to do further background check in this case. And so he's saying, well, I mean if only we could know these facts to John's point. Well, there is one way to know if you ask the FBI to look into it. But if you don't, then yes thing the rest of us can do about it. And yeah, he does. He just want to set a precedent where the FBI is looking in a credible claims of sexual assault amongst powerful Republicans. Yeah. And and earlier in the week, I'm like, he's showing some degree of restraint that seems amazing wills. Let's see how long it lasts, but we'd Swe said it was so, hey, look, man, you gotta call. It hasn't is. That's restraint. He didn't attack her right and he and he said, well, we just want the facts like somebody hitting the talking book, but he stuck with it. Yeah. Okay. It's only really low bar to give Donald Trump come like, hey, good job. You didn't viciously attacked someone who alleged attempted rate, but of course it couldn't hold it. Of course. It couldn't stay slow. So today, what did she do? My. Like the part of the tweets that was most despicable. So questioning whether someone actually went through an experience, you know, because they didn't have the didn't come forward when they were fifteen. She was scared to death. She said that her parents would find out that she was drinking at that party and that she got her self in trouble. She's fifteen years old at the time and Senator, so that's all terrible enough. But did you notice the worst part of it or her loving parents comment? In other words, it's her parents for not coming forward. They didn't even know about it. He such a bad guy get can't help, but viciously attacked people that you know that are in any way in his way. I think that comment actually went to her credibility as someone today is well, even though yes, he was tacking as well. He was attacking her parents for not knowing something they didn't know back. Then we're not doing something that could know about to do back then. But I just think it was also super condescend. Sending. I mean, you know here, here's yours. Doctor Ford. You know here, someone who's actually come quite a long his in life, right? And to kind of infantilized that in this tweet I thought was like an additional extra Trumpian dick. Those small words always look at details because actually I was waiting for all the for this for days. As you said, he's been holding it in the only thing of the trifecta of she's took too long to come forward. Where was the police involved all this stuff happening? The other part of this that he forgot to go with, which maybe it'll happen tomorrow as you see your face, you see her body. Why would Kevin want anything to do with this? That's the only thing left in Trump's normal toolbox is to talk about how she looks and why that's not a thing last the on that tweet does if this attack was as bad as she says. So that's kind of admitting that there could have been an attack and it wasn't that bad. Yeah, it was just some as one of supporters from the Judicial. Watch one of those. It was just a rough horseplay. So it was an attack, but it just wasn't that bad. So she's bringing us up in all she did was just trying to get in their band. Oh, this is all that happened. Yeah. Let me just my Shane of difference on that is he's he saying either wasn't that bad? Right? It was just rough horseplay as the judicial crisis network person said it or it was really I, if it or she's making it up because if it was that bad, obviously to go report it to the police because in his mind, remember one of the things he's charged he was accused of is while his pregnant wife was upstairs in the middle of an interview. He cornered a reporter presser against the wall and started funneling her, and you remember from the access Hollywood tapes. He says, you just grab them by the genitalia if you're powerful, there's nothing you can do about it. He used that as not that right, right. Like, hey, stranger in an alleyway I guess, as that's bad. And obviously it would go to the cops with that everything else you just shut up about as Prager said, Dennis Prager said earlier in the week. Oh, people grabbed my mom's breasts all the time. They grabbed my wife's breasts and they were. They were. They were empowered enough to say, knock it out. Yeah. So I want to add just one more development today to this because I think it needs to be knowledge and he he's gotten into this many of the other defenders of cabinet I've gotten into this. There is no one whose life story and choices and actions and communication are examined with more of a fine tooth comb than survivors of sexual assault and God help you if you were not the perfect victim who acts exactly the way they expect Bates based on mythology, they've created if you don't, you know, report it in the right way at the right time, all of that. So they'd been saying this whole time. She waited a really long time. It was a really long time ago. I just don't buy there's no evidence. Okay. Well, we are finding out more now that we know about this and reporters can look into it about what was happening to her and her social group around that time. So the New York Times talked with an unnamed male friend of hers. That said that after the summer of the alleged attack four, then known as Chrissy blazey fell off the face of the earth. Socially, that's a quote then says, all I remember this is the gentleman. All remember is after my junior thinking, where is she? She was the sort of personal out of people paid attention to. She was a leader. She was great. I was like, where did she go? So I don't expect that that will actually convince anyone of anything if they already believe that she's a liar, but she is acting and has act through the course of her life up tune including her fears about what testifying next week could actually be like she's acting exactly like the victim of sexual assault and that behavior can come in many different forms. The idea that we should be picking a partner behavior to say, that's not how I would have acted. If I had almost been raped is utterly absurd, utterly insulting and also leads to more women not being willing to come forward when they were attacked in similar ways. So last thing here is Kellyanne Conway was on TV minutes before the tweet and said, there's no reason the president would attack her. What are you doing Kellyanne you should know better than that by now you know that he's going to have you say that an attacker the very next minute. And in this case it was literally it was min. After she said that on TV he sent the the tweets. And as we told you earlier in in live show, we will be covering the hearings if she's going to testify, we'll cover all of them a TY t. dot com slash live and we'll give our analysis on the spot as we cover it live. So don't miss that. And it's are wishing as our poll showed on TNT dot com, slash bowl, eighty percent of you guys also want her to testify because we want to get at the truth. Okay. We gotta to take another break here guys. When we come back Rosenstein this one is huge. We'll be right back. We hope you're enjoying this free clip from the young Turks. If you wanna get the whole show and more exclusive content while supporting independent media become a member, a TY t. dot com slash joined today. In the meantime, enjoy this free. Now. I'm back in the Turks. All in the member station says, should Kevin. I'll be nominated if he doesn't ask for an FBI investigation, shouldn't have potential supreme court. Judge want this when ruling on cases. So that's an interesting point in a very sting article I read today, I made a similar point saying, we want someone who is deliberate and deliberative, and so you want someone to say, whoa, hey, let's consider this. You know how they always say. We just want to call balls and strikes, right? So do you want to supreme court? Justice was like this restaurant says, you'll be before getting all the information. Okay. Look if I was accused I would wanna further investigation because I didn't do it. But anyway, we've been over that, but thank you for the comment. Last one is YouTube superjet for stability. A Representative democracy must provide for the welfare of the people attain governments are stabilized by boot Taliban, poverty, the right are not in a legitimate debate. They have a goal. So and it, it's, it is interesting when cable news hosts question when you were looking for the welfare of the people, but not others. Okay. Friends to the different debating styles, something you should keep in mind as you tangle with Tucker, Carlson. Indeed, there aren't necessarily the same goals. Speaking of debates in about eight minutes Beto versus beta begins Beto O'Rourke versus Ted Cruz. John's going to stay with us because this story is probably going to take a little bit longer, but the debate will start and then John will start the analysis of it members. You can go either place, TRT dot com slash joined to become a member. And then if you're a member TY t. dot com, slash members live to watch it live and you don't have to watch it live. You could watch it later as well. Okay. You get all members get all the programming anytime they want. All right, John, let's do the most important story. Okay, let's do it dramatic news for a number of different reasons. Different reasons for different groups. I think you'll you'll come to see the deputy attorney general rod Rosenstein. Stein apparently suggested last year that he could wear a wire to secretly record the president, and at least once if not more than once suggested the possibility of deploying the twenty fifth amendment to remove Donald Trump prematurely from office. We're going to talk about the implications of that, but you should understand going into that rod Rosenstein disputes. The New York Times is reporting saying that the story is inaccurate and factually incorrect. He says, I will not further comment on a story based on anonymous sources who are obviously biased against the department and are advancing their own personal agenda. But let me be clear about this based on my personal dealings with the president. There's no basis to invoke the twenty fifth amendment, which is one stance on that. Now, what's interesting about this is this information has now come out. There are multiple sources for this information who would have actually leaked this, who benefits from this information getting out. Now you might say, well, if there was discussion about removing Donald Trump from office by people like. Rod Rosenstein that is concerning. So perhaps an enemy of the president might have leaked this to cause some sort of scandal surrounding his presidency. However, there are many people big allies of Donald Trump that would love to get rod Rosenstein out of office and rod Rosen's are Donald Trump, values, loyalty above all else. And so if this information comes out and rod Rosenstein is not capable of reassuring, Donald Trump, and it's not true. It could lead to him being fired. Someone else being put in into his position who could theoretically and Muller investigation. And we actually do have some information. We can get a little bit about if rod Rosenstein was removed, who would then be in charge of the investigation, which is also interesting. So having looked at at the report myse- spent is that it is clearly allies of the president who have leaked this, and and I believe that the president will fire Rosenstein imminently. I would be really surprised if he made it past the weekend. This president is not known for restraint, and he was looking for an excuse to fire Rosenstein anyway, because he had appointed Robert Mueller, the special counsel, and if he replaces Rosenstein with someone who is personally loyal to him and makes clear that he's personally loyal to them, that person could fire Muller. They needed an excuse this, he'll probably serve plenty well enough for their purposes. Now, this is important. It doesn't mean that the story isn't true. The story might be true anyway, and then they use it as a reason to fire Rosenstein. Now we're now it is unnamed sources are new question, their motives, but. Overall, I was left with the impression that the story is true. So curious what you guys think about that. Yeah, I think reading some of that as well. I it. It does appear that there there is truth to it. We we don't know for sure, but, but but it does seem like that. It's interesting the level to which either his allies or the president has sunk, and again, low bar to to to try and remove an investigation or or, you know, pillar of an investigation or someone related to Miller out of his way. And I really think that the timing of this is particularly interesting. There's two things going on. Of course, we're moving into the election that always changes the timing of everything that helps his base like him better and all of that. And therefore other Republicans, he might endorse. But also it's it's in the wake of what's been going on in terms of the discoveries from tax implications on Cohen on Manafort and so forth. And it's on. I think the back of molar getting closer and closer not just to what may or may not have happened regarding Russia, but what. May or may not be going on in the Trump organization itself. And so I think he even has a double reason to try and shut things down hers, allies due to try and shut things down to keep him where he is. It's not just the that investigation. I think now we're looking at shutting down a lot of investigation around that into his own finances, which hopefully we will get to know much more about someday is the hard part is, I mean the the refusals or the accurate inaccuracy in factory incorrect. Talk about it. Someone asked me line every time. There's someone that's lying because everyone says they dispute the validity of such of such statements from this particular place. So while one side does that he's trying to save his position, maybe he's one of the guys who wants to get to the bottom of this. You know, we can assume that that's the thing since he's part of the head of it. So he has to somehow deny all of it. You can't come on shows up totally said that man, this guy is out of his mind. We gotta do somebody. You can't say that. So. Someone is lying on some point, but Jake's point about whether or not someone wants to come out and do something to get him out of there. Women, it's not true or not. Trump has to believe that this which was was it washing post New York Times. In New York, a great point. He could not believe any of these newspapers yesterday. One of them was he has before he's quoted the New York Times about things that helped him carry his point along. But then when it's something that's detrimental to what he wants to do, it's like whatever. Sources, which we know he hates. So I thought this was the failing New York Times. I'm sure that Donald Trump wouldn't trust what the fake news media is saying about his own deputy attorney general, even if it suits as purposes would he? Yeah, of course he's going to trust an honest sources in the New York Times when it suits them. So clearly this is the situations fourteenth street Ford. So let me throw a couple complications your way if you curse. So he says that it's factually inaccurate. He doesn't necessarily say that the exact quotes that are attributed to him are not true. And the interesting thing about that is that you can say something, but mean one of many things depending on how you say it. And so one added complication is that one of the sources says that he did say those things about wearing a wire, but he was speaking sarcastically which if you, if you report that to the New York Times at not saying that it was fantastic implying that he meant it, then that may be goes to the possibility that it was enemies or supporters of Donald Trump that would have leaked to this. What's interesting though, is that while he claims that there's no basis to invoke the twenty fifth amendment, you have things like a memo from f. b. i. a lawyer, Lisa page. We've heard a lot about she did contemporaneous note taking of that meeting and there were no references to the twenty fifth amendment in her notes seems like the sort of thing that you would probably take note of since it's such a drastic action, but then other people's notes say that not only did he mention the twenty fifth amendment, but it wasn't the only time that he mentioned the twenty fifth amendment. And that's specifically he also said that he might be able to persuade attorney general Jeff Sessions and John Kelly, then secretary of homeland security now, obviously chief of staff to be involved in it. So this is not an offhand comment if there can be one of the twenty fifth amendment, but it's one that apparently he had put some thought into how strategically he would proceed. Yes, so so more nuance here, Andrew McCabe is a guy that Donald Trump is attacked over and over and now has driven out of the FBI make. Cain wrote writes notes the time saying that Rosenstein did talk about wearing your wire. So now McCabe also had conflicts with Komi. You don't. Why? Because they're all human beings and they agree and disagree in parts, and there's different things that go into their calculations trouble on the other hand lives in a black and white world and wants his followers to live in that world in his conspiracy mccade Rosenstein and Komi are all working together against them. In the real world McCain says, hey, Rosenstein is talking about wearing a, why would the president I could write that down. That doesn't sound good so that that's McCabe actually, in a sense, helping Trump or making a note that winds up helping Trump, but Trump can't tell the difference because he's actually did do it. So he's like, I don't know eight that they're all bad at their BI. Right. What in reality at different times Komi Rosenstein and became have supported Trump. In fact, Rosenstein is the guy who fired killing me or he wrote the memo that was used as justification for firing Komi and and that leads to another important point. The New York Times reporters do not know who wrote the New York Times editorial. The administration official said, yes, we're considering the twenty fifth amendment. So the op-ed section of the New York Times is keeping that as secret. So the reporters, meanwhile, are looking to uncover the source that the other section of the paper has right, and that's their job. And so as I read this, I thought. Looks like Rosenstein wrote that up at. I was wondering that this thing part came about. Yeah. And then he wanted. He asked a couple of senior administration officials that they would do it like this shades of Vittorio. Yes, someone in the audience needs to Google rod Rosenstein lodestar. See what words he is Ben and I had done a draft, pick the people who might have written the op-ed in an episode of school which you could check out if you're a member TY t. dot com slash join anyway. I'm so mad when I read this that I didn't pick Rosenstein. And so why why? Rosenstein writes memo's say, hey, Komi didn't treat Hillary Clinton investigation properly. That's a fair meme. Memo right? But he doesn't know that Trump is going to use it as an excuse to fire Komi and he actually really likes Komi Komi was. A role model to, in fact, when he was according to this new New York Times report, when he was considering who to appoint a special counsel, even though he had helped, in essence getting rid of Komi which he wanted to call combing, ask him, who should I get a special counsel because he looked up to. So Trump takes the memo that Rosenstein wrote aghast combing goes, thank you very much. That's what I needed Komi spine because of Rosenstein Rosenstein goes no. Mohican handle that right in this to fire. He feels like Trump through under a bus and that he's wildly Radic. So that is why according to sources, he's going around telling people busy look as Radic to you as he does to me. You see the one. Am I the one that's crazy Bill here this is acting nuts and and plus, of course there's something personal because he threw Rosenstein under the bus. So and finally, the maybe the most important part of this is I hope the Muller team is gathering their papers, storing them somewhere and and getting ready to hand it off to people because the Domino's could fall really quickly. Here Trump is a ticking time bomb to begin with. He hates Rosenstein for pointing Muller, couldn't wait to get rid of him so he could put a likeness place. This probably will give him plenty good enough excuse. He'll likely fire roses style he'll likely put in. So when he. Deeply deeply trust in that role? Nope, it'll be Jared Kushner, Donald Trump, you know, the person who would naturally the power would fall to right now. Everything about his legal philosophy implies that he would end the Muller investigation. Whatever he puts into that place is is unlikely to be a professional more likely to be just an ally of Donald Trump in the world, and that person then would have the power to end the Muller investigation. So that's why say this could happen really, really quickly Muller better, save up every piece of evidence he's got and make sure that he can hand it off to somebody because they might become into shut the whole thing down. And if I could just say, I don't think that it would be wise for anyone who cares about continuing consequences for presidents when they break the law for you to wait until this happens. The investigation is ended then think, well, what? What could we have done? Or what might we do? There are already plans in effect right now? I believe media matters has promoted this. If. Not you can search Jordan on Twitter has there's already rallies ready to launch when this happens when he is actually fired. So you don't have to wait and then hope to find out something. Then they're already contingencies in effect that you can sign onto to get notifications for also, maybe after the election, you know, we wake up, other things are going on, and then he uses that moment to get rid of Mahler. Good thing is there are other investigations around him and his company's going on in New York state and the state level. So that's not going to be over. There's nowhere to election. So you just saw what he did with the attacking. Dr. Blasi he can't restrain himself. He tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick. There's no way he waits the fire Rosenstein all the way to the election. Not Rosenstein. Rosenstein is going right. And even with Muller, I'd be surprised by the way Muller, let's go, man. You already talked to Michael Cohen. You already talked to Manafort if if you have something this might be, this is not normal times if you're thinking, oh, well, you don't wanna go before an election and the president wouldn't fire me before an election that would seem to, you know, a political. These are not normal times if you have it go now, go public now, but we don't know because we're not part of the investigation and by the way to be fair to Donald Trump, if he talked to all those people in Donald Trump didn't do anything wrong. People should know that before the election to either way because they say, oh, it might affect election. Well, it should affect the election. Then dip if the president is innocent, people should know that before the election, if he did do something and the entire Republican party is covering for him, they should also know that. Before the election, it would be political to keep that secret. If you already know it, what is not political as going when you have it. Okay. When you would normally announce it as opposed to waiting for elections in. Okay. All right. We gotta go is a wonderful power panel. The Ted Cruz Beddoe Aurore debate has begun wanna NBC and five for letting us carried for our members TY dot com. Soc joined to become a member and watching John and Brooke are going to cover it, and they'll be joining it in progress. But we have another power panel coming up here and that incredibly important, Michael Cohen story. We have not done that yet. And then we're going to have a little bit of fun with outrageous Halloween costumes, etc. Lighten up the weekend as well. So we'll be right back and thank you. All. All right, right back.

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Steve's Final Episode

Words Matter

31:46 min | 2 years ago

Steve's Final Episode

"And. Welcome to words matter with a leash Jordan. Welcome to words matter. I'm elise. Jordan today, I'm joined by executive producer, Adam LeVine, we begin every episode with a promise to promote objective reality. And today as always we will try to honor that pledge Steve since Howard Schultz announced on sixty minutes that he was seriously considering an independent bid for president the United States. There have been a lot of questions about this bid and what you're doing and your involvement. These questions have come from our listeners are followers. Journalists political experts, and we have questions ourselves. Thank you so much for coming in today to answer these questions. So we can have a serious discussion about what could be a historic presidential bid if Howard Schultz chooses to run for not. So let's go through the ground rules because we want our listeners to know that we uphold the same standard for ourselves as we would for any guest. I this is on the record. The interview will not be edited for content. Chad will take out our coughs and throat clears. But that's it. So this means our listeners will have me at my most eloquent second. We will not we have not given Steve the questions in advance. This will be a legitimate interview. It is not scripted anyway. And finally, we will also adhere to the premise that everyone is entitled to their own opinions not their own facts. We will allow Steve offers opinions, and we will hold him to the same standard. We would any guest. And so with that why are you doing this because the two parties system in America is profoundly broken shattered and the evidence of that is the forty fifth president of the United States sitting in the Oval Office who I believe is a great threat to the future of the country. But he didn't arrive there. Either providential your accidentally he arrived there because of the sickness in the system is that alternately when people become angry enough disillusioned enough cynical enough. Dare able to hear the words of the con man the carnival Barker. And thus we are where we are. Why why? Now, why why twenty twenty why not? Look to fix that system, which I think you your diagnosis, I think is dead on. I think the system is absolutely broken. There's a lot of evidence for that. I think everybody agrees with that. But why this moment why not wait another cycle? It was interesting that one of the chief reasons offered why this couldn't be a possibility here at twenty twenty was by Michael Bloomberg. And what mayor Bloomberg said. And by the way, I think he is the greatest mayor in the history of New York. I think he's one of the most competent human beings on the planet and on the one to ten scale of approval for me clocks ended about a sixteen and a half. But what he said was is I looked at this closely in to twenty sixteen and I came to the conclusion that if I got into the race, then Donald Trump would be the president of the United States. So Michael Bloomberg made a decision not to get into the race. And the result was Donald Trump is the president of the United States. And so four years later. Michael Bloomberg takeaway from that is that if an independent Ron's Donald Trump will be reelected as president of the United States. Do you think is the only way to stop them from being reelected? I think that there's a real lack of imagination that it's possible for a democratic nominee to lose the election to Donald Trump, so many people are looking at it disapproval number that's at fifty six percent, but presidential elections referendums their choices. And so if you give the American people at Troyes, and a choice comes down to will what sides base due. I fear the most there's an awfully good chance that the answer will not be Donald Trump's base because for millions of college educated. Republican suburban women, for example, who were part of the coalition that put the Democrats into a forty seat majority. Eighty when they hear candidates saying we'll get rid of the insurance companies calling for thirty trillion dollars in new spending talking about marginal tax rates that go into the sixties and seventies. Those families will view those proposals as an immediate threat to their economic livelihood to their children's future while they continue to regard Donald Trump as an abstract threat a threat for sure the questions about why. Now, why two thousand twenty why is this the only way to stop him? Because because it may be the case the twenty twenty is the year where the American political system can be disrupted. And I think specifically, and I think it's important we step back and look at the hysteria of the reaction to an accomplished American saying, we're hysteria these words, right? I'm thinking about running for president of the United States, which in our country which last time I checked remains the United States of America. Not Trump is STAN that's not only the right of every American. It's the God given right in our system of every American to be able to do that should they so choose. And so he hasn't announced candidacy what he said is I'm going to take a look at it. I'm going to take a hard look at it. We're six hundred seventy some odd days before the next presidential election said I'm going to travel the country, I'm going to visit with the American people. I'm going to advance ideas. And we'll see what happens. That's all he said. And I do think we should have the free speech debate. As part of we can discuss media reaction. But can we just dig into strategy a little bit more with you as looking at the landscape and environment for third party? So why is this particular moment is it because of the extreme polarizations of both parties, and look is this going to be a third party bid or in the creation of third party? Or is it an individual bid mounting the ballot access? What Howard would Howard Schultz said is that he seriously considering for president? If he does so he'll do it as an independent candidate. He's not talking about starting a third party. He's talking about conceptually running as an independent candidate. That's interesting because you, and I always thought that this was going to be a third party a more moderate option of sorts and the independent bid. Why not run as a democrat? I think that at the end of the day, and I'm flummoxed by to some degree the opposition to the idea in our people see it as cutting the line as not having to go through the bullshit of doing a primary and of the winnowing of our system, whether we like it or not and the Democrats rigged their primary. They ended up with a candidate. They're based didn't want the Republicans. We didn't rig our primary we should've import some discipline and not let a democrat up on the debate stage at the beginning of the process, but that's neither neither here nor there. But I think a lot of the outcry that you're seeing is genuine unease among Americans about can't find mates. Let me say so campaign finance issue. Let me let me dispute completely that we're hearing outcry from Americans we're we're hearing an outcry from democratic political operatives and from members of the media stablishment, which is how. Had an interesting affect over. The course of the first week since he speculated that I may want to do this the total result of that generated scores and scores and scores of negative headlines. A fierce backlash on Twitter, and then the self-satisfaction of the media class, which then says, well, our hysteria has produced these negative headlines and has produced this closed Twitter feedback loop of constant negativity. And therefore, we've succeeded in disrupting what it is that Howard Schultz said about taking a look. That's a fact, that's that's a good discussion. One of the things we want to stick with here is is the is the third party the path to two seventy because again, you have been a brilliant strategist in front of bunch of camping. Yeah. So I understand that we want to talk about that. That's important. I think that's more in the we talk about you, and what you've gone through in the past week. And and all that. But I think when we important things here is we wanna know, how do you get to seventy? I think it's an interesting conversation. I think it's one that again giving your position and giving your expertise I personally would like to see I'm not a democratic operative in the media class when I was giving my nice little rant about Ross Perot and important to my political development Ross Perot nineteen percent of the vote. I remember sitting around and watching those specials that he did on television. And my dad my grandpa same. Wow. This guy makes so much sense. And the way he did. It was pretty amazing in that grassroots supporters got him all that ballot access he flirted around and. Because of the grassroots support hinted up with nineteen percent, but he didn't carry any state. So what would be the path? What do you see as the realistic pass tickets premature question in in the sense in that? That would Howard Schultz said is he's going to consider seriously running for president. He's going to have a conversation with the American people. He's going to see if there are multiple pass to two hundred seventy electoral votes. But as a basic answer to your question is over the last generation is presidential campaigns have been narrowed to about eight states, really sometimes even less than that in within those states and incredibly small percentage of the population. That is undecided if you had a legitimate independent candidate in the race. What happens is you have a fifty state race or more precisely forty five or forty six so parts of the country that haven't seen a competitive presidential cycle in generation all of a sudden, we'll see one and the reality is in all sorts of states. You're is likely to see presidential candidates as you would see them in Calgary or in Ontario. You just don't. See them. So when you look at that, and you envision a three way race for plurality. We envision that there would be multiple past two hundred seventy electoral votes. And so you just have to wait and see. But I think the important thing understand what Howard Schultz said is he would never consider doing this as a spoiler candidate. He would consider doing it. If there were pass to victory and that he'll travel the country. See if the American people are receptive to ideas, we do know that after the reaction in the first week that fifty three percent of the country knows that he's thinking of running for president. And he's already at eighteen percent in the polls. According to his polling against all three main democratic challengers at this point, Warren Sanders and Harris now clearly the outcry which you tried, you know, your arguing over the nature outcry. I agree that it's Democrats who were very upset by this. And that means that you can expect a lot of legal challenges in states with ballot X access how much if you just had to give a raw estimate. Do you think just in legal does a campaign an independent candidacy like this half to anticipate as part of their ballot access million dollars in ballot access for all fifty states something that will cost between thirty seven fifty five million dollars? Steve I checked with a couple law for people who to this practice nationwide and the estimates for them was somewhere between two hundred and fifty million and north. That's what because and by the way, what the pointing to the that's that's the number that they give there's some reasons for that. But you think that you can guarantee that it's gonna be fifty million or less that that numbers to a two high. It's not a real number. Here's what here's. What they're pointing Steve in two thousand four which is a race that, you know, very, well when Democrats perceived that Ralph Nader had stolen the election from Albor in two thousand they went around, and they challenge New York Times did a whole story on it. And Charlie cook Senate he said, quote, the Democrats are gonna make this as difficult as possible and debilitating as possible for him meaning mater, making expend blood, sweat and tears for every inch in a legal battle, which it's going to be a legal battle Howard shells prepared to spend up to two hundred fifty thousand dollars. I think he'd be delighted to spend two hundred fifty thousand dollars. On money. Can we just stick with that for second in two thousand sixteen the DNC raised and spent seventy around seventy two million three hundred seventy two million dollars? Hillary Clinton's campaign was seven hundred sixty eight million that's combined about one point one billion. And that was without the ballot access is Howard show is prepared to spend that kind of money and that by the way that lost Donald Trump. He's gonna have to spend more in an effort to beat Donald Trump. So he willing to spend that kind of money winning presidential campaign. If you're just throw a dart on the wall and look at the cost of it. You know, I would I would stipulate a somewhere upwards around one point two billion dollars. That's right. So the voters that you're going for hearing Howard Schultz describe where he stands on issues. He does seem to be fiscally conservative more socially liberal who are those voters that you're peeling away because I've seen. Different analysis from various camps, some say, actually, it's going to pull from Trump. Actually, it's going to pull from Democrats. How do you see we look electorate Butch backup? I think it's important backup. Because I think that there's a number of questions you're asking that we should contextualize. And then we can get more deeply into them who I hang is all of the people that have appeared on television and said with utter certainty that he cannot win. This must not be are they not the same people who from the moment that Donald Trump came down the escalator said he's a clown into joke, and he can't get over ten percent in the Republican primary and then he couldn't get over twenty percent. And then once he was at fifty percent, it would be a contested convention. And then of course, he could never beat Hillary Clinton. Steve, here's the problem a whole me finish and so on and so forth. The Inara see or the fidelity to the Inara and see is just just extrordinary to watch. So first off nobody knows what's going to happen. We've seen in the last couple of election cycles state, Senator from Illinois with the middle name Hussein be elected, the forty fourth president of the United States. We saw the Trump insurgency take the White House. And we saw the Bernie Sanders insurgency almost take down Hillary Clinton. We are clearly historically in a period where we've seen a historic successive wave election. So it would indicate to me that we may well be at the hour of disruption in the system in the system that produced Donald Trump. So nobody knows what's going to happen. Six hundred seventy days from the election, including weather, if Donald Trump will even be in the White House. Here in in November, November wine, and your campaigns pointed out campaigns speculative effort has pointed this out that there's forty one percent of people who are independence in this country. One of the things we're trying to get to is. I know you say it's premature, but I'd like to think that Howard Schultz having the business background that he does would've looked at Steve Schmidt and said, Steve what's the path to two seventy of those forty-one percent. You know, if you look at a state like, California, you could get every Trump voter and still need two million votes. You look at the states like Alabama and Tennessee Donald Trump won by more than twenty percent. And it's the same effect. What's the path? What states give us a state give us three or four that you think that has that your metrics your numbers you've talked about on interviews diligence. It's premature to sit and go through an electoral map and say this is what the contours of the race will be suffice it to say, I think that if the parties Purdue. Use to on electable candidates and too ideologically extreme candidates through a process, which is become dominant in American politics, which is incitement incitement towards the base. So what is it that we see on the on the democratic side thus far with the candidates that are in on the race? Well, we see candidates talking about on top of the twenty one trillion dollar federal debt. We already have is that everybody will have a government paid for education government paid for health care government paid for day care government paid for student loan forgiveness. Thirty forty trillion dollars of new spending removal of choice, for example, private insurance with health care, and my contention would be is that I would create the scenario by which you have to on electable candidates running against each other. Where one of the unelectable candidates is going to win. Which happened last time in that scenario? I think it is entirely possible that a centrist candidate and independent candidate. Behold into no party is able to become a plurality winner. One of the things when everybody sites Ross Perot to remember is that first off twenty twenty is not nineteen ninety two very different time in the country. And Secondly, when we look at it everybody forgets that Ross Perot was ahead with thirty nine percent of the vote before he had a mental breakdown in accused the Bush family of sabotaging his daughter's wedding. You know, that's an interesting point. You're talking about when he peaked at that moment in the summer when he was so far ahead. Then it follows a pattern of how they how independent candidates will pay like Gary Johnson was at around. I think nine to twelve percent. And then by election day got three percent. Granted we all know what kind of gas went into that. But. How does an independent candidate hold momentum over the course of cycle? Well, in the case ajar, Gary Johnson by being competent and prepared which he was not in the case of Ross Perot by being not betcha crazy, which Howard Schultz definitely is not in. Let's also back up to this point. Because you know, we've talked about all of this stuff. But we've not actually talked about the man which. We wanna stick on third party from the man is important, but you Ross Perot, Matt Bennett of the centrist group third way said to politico. There's literally a guy who is carved into mount Rushmore who could not win as an independent if teddy Roosevelt can't win a third party. You can't do it. It can't be done. Well, I think to extrapolate from the election of nineteen twelve and make conclusions about twenty twenty. I think is just silly. Okay. You wanted to talk about the man in terms of this third party? You say he didn't look at it. I spent some time Steeler last few days with the democratic platform ninety two thousand sixteen down cry platform. I don't know if you've ever read the document of Howard's ever read, the document, but I'd be interested to know what in this document. I'm happy to let you look at it. What in this document Howard Schultz says is too far extreme to the left. The he cannot even decide to run in a democratic primary much less. That's disingenuous for him to run the democrat. What's in this platform that he can support? Well, as you know candidates, particularly here to their parties platforms, which are constructed through all manner of vague prospects at the at the conventions, one of my one of my favorite. Moments in recent history at a convention was my friend Antonio villa. Gosta who is chairing the platform committee as the Democrats were on the floor. I believe the issue was objecting to the inclusion of the word God into the platform, and knowing how dangerous that was politically though, the crowd was very much against the vote. He heard something different used the big gavel to gavel it down. But I don't think the platform has anything to do with anything what I want. He runs what Howard show what Howard Schultz said is that he doesn't feel represented by the Democratic Party that he feels that he would have to be disingenuous to navigate the process and that at the end of the day what he wants to explore is a route outside of that process. There's no mention of these two parties in the American constitution or any political party. In fact, the father of the country. George Washington who has relevance today for a couple of reasons but most significantly on the basis of his being the first person in two thousand years of history who could have been king could have been an emperor returning home voluntarily surrendering power and becoming the first person in two thousand years of human history to say, I don't want the power step away from it. He put the institutions ahead of the individual. And when he left office when he said goodbye, he left a warning. What was the warning the the warning was about factions and factions in today's language or political parties he warned about political parties who would subvert the national interest who would put their tribal interests ahead of the country. And that's exactly where we are today. And so these. Political parties, which I would argue are two of the greatest institutions for the advanced make human freedom and dignity. Not just in American history. But in world history have become deeply corrupted have become deeply ineffectual and the American people just watch the shutdown for thirty seven days of government or doing over whether offense was a wall or a wall is offense or some other nonsense and what he's saying is. We can do whatever we want an America. We're in charge of the politicians not the other way around. It will see what happens how choked by the way fuse himself is towards Washington. He said it in an interview he said, he's the first person in history of public who's independent candidate. I thought that was interesting because Howard Schultz himself as George Washington. No. But I think that's a stupid question. Obviously not a stupid question because he said it didn't say what did he Storting it? What did he say? He said he'd be the first independent person since George Washington. Okay. There's no comparison there. Let's me this to farm policy, but his George Washington's farewell address was a call for less. Foreign intervention into be wary. Also a foreign intervention in. So let's talk about Howard Schultz little bit where is he on foreign policy. Well, I think that you can get a view of where he is on foreign policy. If you go back to earlier this year, he gave a speech where President Bush was honored at the. Atlantic Council he gave one of those speeches, and I think that by any objective measurement that he would fall within the tradition that endured from president Truman through president through President Obama. Would you say that he is a farm policy realist in the tradition of say James Baker or does he tend to be four democracy promotion? He said he would support leaving troops in Syria that day he he did say that and thought that Trump's decision announcing withdraw precipitate precipitously like he did was a mistake. I think if you go back, and he's not giving any national security or foreign policy addresses in the five days since he said he was thinking about running for president as an independent. But if you look at what he said in that Atlantic Council speech where he talked about was the importance of alliances. The connection within that alliance of free peoples. The idea that America is the indispensable nation in the world that if the United States steps back that vacuum will be filled with actors that are not benevolent that are not benign. And so I think that he stayed in that speech, well within the boundaries of what we would recognize as a foreign policy that James Baker would be deeply comfortable with Steve as you well know forty-three of the forty four presence of the United States have either held high elective office appointive office or serving military. The only one who hasn't is Donald Trump by November of twenty twenty Donald Trump have been president for almost four years. Do you think after four years of Donald Trump, somebody American people want to elect somebody who has less government experience than the person with the least amount of experience and history the country? Well, I think the American people look at the political class in the country with a MC. Stir of revulsion, and contempt. Disdain. I think we look at the numbers that talk about trust in institutions, faith and systems like democracy. We see the consequences of the erosion of trust in all of those areas all of those areas and so- Howard Schultz is a very different person Donald Trump. He someone who came from nothing. No inheritance. As he said is only goal was to build a company as dad never got a chance to work for in that company, which operates in seventy seven countries in one hundred million people walked through the doors of last week is someone I think has a point of view about the world how it operates America's place in it. And you someone who built a company the flies. The American flag all over the world. The idea though, that we are faded to be read. Presented by form system that comes up through the congress or the United States Senate. And these are the people are qualified to lead the country. If you look at the outcome we've gotten through that system. I would argue that it's not a very good outcome. So at the end of the day, the American people make a determination they evaluate they look at people's toughness. They look at their character. They look at their resoluteness. They look at their biography. They look at their vision for the for the country. Lectures, always a choice and Donald Trump's been disaster for the country. Would I would argue is what produced is a broken political system will get to see that political system on full display during the state of the union, which is the evening and. Will have an opportunity to hear the voice of somebody who rose from nothing live, the American dream and wants to talk about how to preserve it will this be if Howard Schultz does decide to enter the rice Willie running issues driven campaign, and we'll reducing the deficit continue to be as he said, his primary focus, I think the thing that you that you will mostly from him in the conversation that lies ahead is honesty, should have a very honest conversation. Very adult conversation with the American people about all manner of issues that have not been talked about seriously in a long long long time. I mean, we have a debate that rages in this country. If you look at all of the issues facing, it that is about a wall on the southern border that is completely unnecessary in a moment of time where there's zero nettle-eater legal. Immigration coming across the southern border. TV say wants to have an adult conversation last week. He called a seventy percent tax on incomes over ten million dollars ridiculous from United States congresswoman who happened to have been elected to something. Now. I know you're a guy of words, Steve and ridiculous means deserving inviting derision or mockery absurd. Synonyms comical hilarious. You go on for cicle. Is that what he does? He really mean that a tax on incomes over ten million dollars at seventy percent, which is widely popular with the American people is ridiculous that an adult conversation. Yeah. I think he thinks it's ridiculous in its convince Katori and that it's anti-growth that would be his point. What is will Derek Jeter? Another athlete not hit another home run because they're gonna get taxed at seventy. What's the economic behavior that he? Wchs. It's anti-growth other than his own pockets. Adam. This. I'm not doing this. Steve you got to answer the questions you got to see. I'm not. 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Deal or no deal

"This marketplace podcast is brought to you by McDermott will and emory helping clients transform healthcare and life sciences with partnerships joint ventures and emanate deals more information at M. W. E. DOT com slash transform healthcare and the Michigan Economic Development Inc John Romanelli founder and C._E._o.. Of airspace experienced technology says in Michigan Revolution is in the air. I know what planet is doing to help. Businesses make that possible at Planet Emma Dot Com. That's P. L. A. N. E. T. M. dot com. Raise your hand. If you think the national debt is something you know we ought to be paying attention to at least you congress not so fast from American public media. This is marketplace in Los Angeles. I'm Rozelle his Tuesday today twenty three July always to have your long everybody. We have as you've heard by now. I'm sure a budget deal. The debt limit gets raised until after the election of course government spending goes up the next to fiscal years then yes there is some degree of political maneuvering to come before all is said and done on this thing but here is the bottom line if you will the four letter word that debt used to be the halls of Congress isn't anymore and as marketplace's Kimberly Adams reports there is not a whole lot of upset about it to those trying to rain in in government spending this budget deal is kind of a disaster relatively little of the new money is offset by cuts in other areas and it cancels out budget caps that were supposed to hold federal spending and check the fiscal hawks have flown away and there's not even any semblance of fiscal responsibility left in Washington remain Abacha's with the Heritage Foundation. She says the budget caps put in place during the Obama years put pressure on lawmakers to keep spending down by offsetting getting some increases with cuts elsewhere but since president trump came into office there has been very little attempt made at actually paying for these budget deals now. It's a given Congress will keep raising the debt limit to accommodate higher spending bill gail at the Brookings Institution says this deal was never going to fix the debt but it seems to me this is just not the right venue to be going after the longterm fiscal problem gail points out the budget only covers a small portion of government spending which doesn't include big ticket items like social security or interest on the debt Seth Hamlin at the Center for American progress argues budget cuts are only one side of the equation I would argue that the biggest cause of the deficits that we have now and the biggest driver of the deficits over the long term is just the inadequate amounts of revenue that we raise Hanlin points to the revenue loss from the G._O._p.. Tax cuts with seemingly few consequences sequences for unlimited spending and election coming up. It's pretty easy for Congress to just keep writing checks in Washington. I'm Kimberly Adams for marketplace so if as Kimberly reported and as the evidence suggests it's more debt doesn't bother congress too much. Should it seems logical question to ask marketplace's refinish or has that one. There's only so much extra money saved up in the world we all by route from the same Kula savings for our home alone business loan in car loans. Brian Riedel is with the Manhattan Institute but if the Government has to borrow twenty thirty forty trillion dollars in order to finance debt then there's less money for everyone else to borrow the government has to lure that money away from the private sector by raising the interest rates that pays which can push up interest rates for everybody else and dragged down economic growth Kent's matters directs the Pen Wharton Budget Model. We we projected by mid century G._D._p.. Will be about sixty seven percent smaller otherwise would have been also the interest on that debt it adds up next year will spend more an interest payment than we do on children by twenty twenty six. We'll spend worn interest payment than we do on all of national defense. My McGinnis is president of the Committee for Responsible Federal Budget. She says there may be a time in the future like during a recession when the government needs to go into more debt to stimulate the economy borrowing so much now what makes that harder it will be more difficult to borrow but at all so even means a politician maybe less willing to borrow when we should be a lot of the consequences of high debt are hidden right now. Interest rates are low. The economy is pretty good those things it will eventually change and when they do McGinnis says we could see the real cost of debt in New York. I'm Sabrina sure for Marketplace Wall Street on this Tuesday in late. Ish July optimistic might be the word on news that a U._S.. Delegation is going to Shanghai next week for trade talks who knows might be another word. We'll have the details when we do. The numbers and British pound slipped live just a bit against the dollar today on the possibility or the likelihood the increased odds. Perhaps that Brexit is going to happen without a deal. That's what incoming Prime Minister Boris Johnson has promised if need be Joe's announced as the new head of the ruling Conservative Party this morning facing an end of October Britain in or out of the E._U.. Deadline we took a trip over the London at the last deadline and of March to see what Brits and British Business People Thought of the whole thing. Here's some of that tape so if I see bricks at the you yeah he see my face. It's finished I've got my answer is something it's on my mind. Every day. It is quite a stressful situation glossy and I've been here twenty years kind of a little bit field zoned from the country spent most of my time working and building business. I believe in world trade. I don't believe that we should be stuck with just the E._U.. Five words or less how do you feel about brexit. It's A. The US we'll give you six. That was four months ago a Cabbie there through the speaker thing if you couldn't figure that out that last bit tape today marketplace's Stephen Beard went to the English Midland's for an update on the politics of the British economy. The boss of this small successful engineering company in the English Midland's Steve Hardiman supports brexit wants to be free of what he calls excessive E._U.. Regulation I feel very very happy authorises one after three years of dithering by Theresa May he says the new prime minister will deliver brexit all think Boris has the Chutzpah to do it and it will happen it will be done aw he thinks Johnson will break Britain's parliamentary deadlock by calling a snap election which with his charisma he'll win but I suggested to Harlan Johnson is not universally admired in fact some people have all the low opinion opinion of him lemon. Becoming the Prime Minister of this country is this bumbling Juki chaotic figure at untrustworthy to people are saying Britain's gone mad but he's a fighter and he's got good people around him and he will find a way through he'll eventually secure a good free trade agreement with the block says Hardiman because unlike Theresa May he's prepared to leave without a deal. You've got to be willing to walk away and that's exactly what I think. Policy saying but Hardiman doesn't do a lot of business with the E._U.. Many companies that do rather alarmed by the rise of Boris Johnson making noises about accepting a no deal brexit which would be damaging from our business and philosophers that Starin- price he and his wife run a small clothing company some fifty miles to the north of Harman's factory they get some of their fabrics from continental the NFL Europe and export finished products to the E._U.. That up to now has been a simple process with no tariffs and no complication over customs and you know we're very concerned. The small business about the implications of of that act situation changing and since the new prime minister wants dismissed the concerns of business about brexit with an exploitive price just doesn't trust him. Somebody who infamously said during a referendum debate F- business I we're not doesn't give us as a business much confidence in him really but the owner of this small manufacturing firm in the center of Birmingham Jewels Morgan says Johnson has been misunderstood. What's what's he really meant was F- big business? It was those businesses that were trying to derail the brexit process so you don't feel he was insulting you personally as a small medium-sized business man no no because I think he understands small and medium-sized science business Morgan makes pumps and other highly engineered equipment for boats. He says businesses like his with an annual turnover of less than six million dollars are the real engines of British innovation growth and prosperity prosperity. He says these companies will adapt swiftly to Brexit and benefit most from it but that's not why he voted to leave the E._U.. Brexit was more than just the trade. Why did you support Brexit exit? Democracy about controlling our own laws democracy proper direct democracy as Prime Minister Johnson will encounter some daunting democratic obstacles parliamentary majority you too while up to thirty of his own lawmakers oppose him in London. I'm Steven Beard for marketplace. Go back and forth around here on the whole has the economy thing consumers seem pretty happy businesses less so so we decided to call one of our regulars who lives and works at the intersection of people and businesses Atlanta Turco is the manager of the Beauty Plaza Mall in butte Montana Hi. How's everything on your end well? I'm fine but you know I'm here every day. The receiver got you on the phone because we want to know what's going on in the Plaza Mall. Oh my goodness things are better things are better things are buying. Yes wow tell me more well the Call Center F._C.. Our is our newest business. They're calling technical and Customer Support Center. It's just a great atmosphere. I mean they've got over one hundred employees on site. They have moved into their location. They were out here in some of our temporary spaces while they're space was being refreshed. I miss him. You Miss Your your the folks in the department store right who used Oh my goodness yeah I understand but I missed the call center people being out here in these temporary spaces it was lively and yeah now they're in their their location which is a little bit rebuked removed from me. We still make time to visit has that let me ask you a foot traffic question. I mean do you think the call center and the other businesses that you're hoping to get in to that mall are going to do anything for foot traffic which is of course the lifeblood of the retailers tomb you rent space. Yes well employees. Actually they go out and visit the other businesses. People are not just to shop there to eat to socialize to <hes> go to a movie but <hes> you make friends here and you build routines. We've got our my walkers that walk every day I yeah I know we've talked about them. Tell me what happens. When you walk through the mall? Do you see what do you see. Are there like empty storefronts in for rent signs or is it. Is it reasonably almond. What is it like the plaza malls? You take like a lap around which I'm sure you do all the time I just came in from from being outside and inside. There's a glaring reality. We do have vacancies but <hes> let's calm. Opportunities hopefully hopefully at at some point people are going to see the potential and now having the call center in their own environment. We can show people that this out of the box thinking brings more opportunities than just retail. Opportunities have you been in malls and retail your whole life your whole career. Yes pretty much so yes thirty years over thirty years <hes> this is if I remember our previous calls correctly. This is going to be the first back to school season without a department store in the Buke laws him all all right. Yes yeah we're already feeling it was going to say tell me about that. Actually right now Kyw we do not have families shoes or a lot of clothing options but we've got a lot of boutique stores popping up so this you know the the change in retail may bring opportunity for a little entrepreneur who has always thought to open up petite. Maybe now's the time to fill that need D- at the Mall N._p._R.. Montana thank you so much appreciate your time. We'll talk to you. They have twenty newspapers and literally hundreds of magazines around the world also a ratings agency and a medical data company the C._E._o.. Of hearst straight ahead but first let's do the numbers Dow industrials picked up six tenths percent today. One hundred seventy seven points out works how to twenty seven thousand three forty nine Nasdaq added six tenths percent forty seven points eighty two fifty one the S&P five hundred game just about seven tenths percent twenty points three thousand five there coke in a smile on Wall Street's Dafter Physi- earnings report from Coca Cola this morning the company reported higher demand in higher revenue and projected even higher revenue to calm shares and coke bubbled up six percent the trump administration's proposed new rules for snap. That's better known as food stamps that could end eligibility for roughly three million people people that that a number on a couple of discount retailer dollar tree ended the session down one point nine percent dollar general off nearly six tenths percent rough day for the billboard company Clear Channel Outdoor Holdings as well slid more than twelve percent after announcing plans issue one hundred million dollar one hundred million rather additional shares bonds down the yield on the tenure Tino rose two point zero eight percent. You're listening to marketplace. That's marketplace. PODCAST is brought to you by Kronos. Cronos knows that hiring and retaining a modern workforce of salaried hourly full and part-time workers can be challenging especially in today's competitive job market. That's why Kronos puts H._R.. Payroll talent and time in one place so H._R.. 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S. dot com slash marketplace. That's a free month of treatment at keeps dot com slash marketplace keeps hair today hair tomorrow this this is marketplace. I'm Kai Rozelle. Housing is where we go next and street to the bottom line too because we get housing numbers all the time right usually of these sales variety new or used home sales were up or down by such and such percent last month today though the number that arguably really matters from the National Association of Realtors this line item the median price nationwide of an existing home in this economy hit its highest level ever in June two hundred eighty five thousand seven hundred dollars and it's up a bit more than four percent from June a year ago marketplace's Mitchell Hartman explains what's going on home. Prices have been shooting up for the past several years much faster than the inflation rate and that's led to an affordability crunch especially in coastal cities cities and hot urban markets U._S._C. Public Policy Professor Jerry Painter says after the housing crash a decade ago builders stopped building the population has grown faster than the building and simple supply and demand predicts predicts prices would go up faster than people's incomes. If that's the case look at Nevada's major cities for example young people keep flocking to Vegas and Reno for jobs in hotels ECOMMERCE and high end manufacturing which drives up demand but says Brian Bonifant at the University of Nevada was a lot of constraints on the builder to build inventory expensive land really hard getting construction labor force you know the banks are still squeamish on overbuilding residential home home. Prices aren't going up as fast as they were a year ago. Meanwhile wages have been rising and mortgage rates falling says Joel Con at the Mortgage Bankers Association that working to help you affordability challenges in many parts of the country okay now keep in mind that median home price means half of houses are more expensive and half are less expensive all over the country but prices vary allot according to Adam data solutions. The median home price in Cleveland is one hundred forty five thousand dollars. It's five hundred seventy five thousand in San Diego. I'm Mitchell Hartman for marketplace well. Let's see this next. Piece is firmly in the apparently strange corporate bedfellows department you take Fitch the bond ratings agency could housekeeping and cosmopolitan magazines newspapers the San Francisco Chronicle among them a health data company and television stations and you end up with a hearst corporation founded eighteen eighty seven buy yes William Randolph hearst now one of the biggest media companies in the world. Stephen Schwartz is the president and C._E._O.. Of Hers Welcome to the Program Thank. Thank you. I don't know that you probably go many dinner parties where people don't know who you are but if you're out about and somebody says Steven Nice to meet you how are you what do you say well. I usually don't feel the need to define fine hearst as a company but interestingly enough as the conversation would go on. I think for most people <hes> we are thought of as predominantly a newspaper magazine company which is fine because we I love those businesses but I think after a while the fact that we're in a lot of other things comes out and actually tends to take people by surprise so tick him off former the other things just company because I'll be honest with you. I was a little surprised we're predominantly television company. We we own twenty percent of E._S._P._N.. Are Fabulous partners at the Walt Disney on the rest <hes> we in Disney co own the networks largely the channel the history channel and the lifetime. If time channel that's a fifty fifty partnership with Disney and then we own thirty three local televisions <hes> stations across the country in Boston Sacramento Orlando Florida and roughly half of those are A._B._C. so that's also woah strong at Disney partnership now often do talk to buy buy. That's this is a sideways question. I find it's easier to email me very busy and I must say you get an email back from Bob. <hes> with lightning speed <hes> television Asian yes but also <hes> newspapers magazines right yeah. Well you know the original business going back to eighteen eighty seven was the San Francisco Examiner we we ended up owning the chronicle over time there and so yeah we have twenty newspapers and and literally hundreds of magazines around the world and some of the Great <hes> Brands Cosmopolitan Harper's bazaar good housekeeping so you're a guy who gets vote in the media that American end and worldwide consumers have at their disposal. How are you thinking about that environment the day when it is fractured there are various segments of audience that want different things as you sit at the top of this tower? What's your approach well? The the I think the business model has certainly become more difficult <hes> it's better for consumer. I mean this is an absolutely phenomenal time to be a consumer of of media of of any kind. I think the business models harder harder and there's a premium on uniqueness. I think unique content whether it's television content or newspaper Journalism or magazine Journalism unique content can still can still cut through. I don't want to go down the newspaper rabbit hole but near times in the Washington Post of the easy winners this Houston Chronicle is a sizable newspaper and sizable city. There is a gap though in local journalism in this country and what's being covered literally at the town level well. I do think a number of newspaper companies unease regrettably back in the day made too many acquisitions got caught in a debt situation so there are publications struggling and the fact is advertisers want more digital solutions. It's an and less than so there is a need for newspapers across the spectrum from really small to medium size to <hes> to advance digitally and some have done it and some are a little behind in that talk talk me for a second about running this company <hes> you're doing well businesswise and bottom line. You're making lots of acquisitions. How do you go about now? Growing an increasing the footprint of the Hers Corporation I said before that were predominantly television Asian company today but increasingly the acquisitions that were making our business information or medical information or financial information and the services were providing are increasingly software services explained that to a layperson right business date information and well <hes> <hes> the biggest business that we own in that field is the Fitch Bond rating business that <hes> that competes around the world with Moody's and S._N._p.. 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Ep. 212 | Ultimate Panel w/ Jon Miller, Graham Allen, Chad Prather & Eric Bolling

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Ep. 212 | Ultimate Panel w/ Jon Miller, Graham Allen, Chad Prather & Eric Bolling

"Welcome to the news. And why it matters. I am Sara Gonzalez joined by something faces but never in the same place. We've got Mr John Miller straight in from the swamp. Congratulations on fiving live. Yes. Good. Good job. Good work. We've got Graham Allen a new chair today. You are. This is weird angle. It's like a whole different place. You have to look at me. We've got Mr. Chad Prater who what this is. It is. Stole my chair for me. My my little bit nervous about these two sitting right next to each other. The teacher come sit in between you to travel all over the country. Been around each other way too much that is that is that is very true to many of the same hotel rooms. Onto top stories. John. What is your top story? I want to talk about George. Conway Kellyanne Conway's husband once again coming out and saying the president stupidity knows no bounds. Just wanna know. What that household is like when they get home. What is that relationship? Like it. Can't be good good grant. What's your what is about California again proving that it just needs to be taken out of the United States? Now, another university saying that the pledge of allegiance these to be gone because it represents white nationalism obvious, obviously, obviously I've been trying to say. And finally. Right. Twenty twenty presidential far leftist hopeful Kamala Harris has now made everybody scratch their heads as she says that all private insurance should be abolished. It's going to be a going to be an interesting show. But first we want to thank our sponsor, Cosmo hurts kids. So I don't know if you guys have noticed, but cosmopolitan magazine is quite risk Gade these days. John. Okay. I'm saying. The checkout stand and I'm looking at all of the magazines in their headlines, and I'm like the what the what sex. I mean, it's got some real things that we don't want our children reading. So the Hearst corporation actually owns the hearse family owns Napolitan magazine, Victoria, Hearst, a member of the family has actually gone out on her own campaign and said, you know, what I don't want to censor their free speech. But I think that this magazine is harmful to children, and it should be labeled as so it should fall under the category of it states that it's harmful to minors under eighteen that's all that she's asking for personally, I agree. My son is starting to read. I don't want him reading that. Rapper something like they did the playboy magazine. Yeah. Yeah. And not have it. Just right there in front of your children as your checking out with your orange, juice and doughnuts kinds of tips and tricks that you can use in things that they don't know about. That's why my daughter's only read teen vogue. Keep it clean around my house. So if you want to hear more about this campaign, which I think you should it's a it's a really it's a really big issue right now, the morals of society and how we protect our children. You can go to Cosmo hurts kids dot com to learn more. All right, John. I would imagine that is a very very awkward. Interesting. Household. Well, it was interesting because it was actually in response to cliff SIMS old White House staffer left the White House. He has a new tell all book out and in the book, the book actually accuses Kellyanne Conway of being the big leaker in the White House. So Trump bash the book on Twitter sent a tweet out saying this book is boring full allies. And then. Twin? Which is that's the new story right there. So the interesting part is that this that he bashed on Twitter. And then Conway came out, husband Conway, Mr. Conway came out and said Trump, you're stupid. So the book that is accusing Kellyanne of leaking Trump calling that book stupid, George Conway, saying Trump, you're stupid in response. So what is going on? In that household is let me take my wife works in a medical clinic. She's a nurse practitioner. If all of a sudden, I started going online in bashing all of the doctors and the nurse practitioners and the PA's that worked in her clinic that she loves very much in that she supported my wife would cut my theory. I don't understand how it works. I'm really curious to find out how it works and how long they'll be together for. I mean, do you think at this point because they have children, right? So maybe it's I. Either more. We just have to get through this point in our lives with the long Trump is in office, and then we will quietly divorce behind the wooden healthy relationship. You would think maybe he's like Honey can I send out this tweet? Or are you going to be pissed at me? He just doing it just like or how about like Honeywell talk about this on the internet and throw it out there and see what happens. This is the hidden being Georgia Kellyanne Conway, which with all due respect to Kellyanne Conway. I mean, obviously, she's got some pretty thick skin to do what she's done say. I have to give a lot of admirations Kellyanne Conway. But this is what I would call the pit of swamp marriage. This is so imagine with me if Donald Trump had never been elected all the things, you wouldn't know or realize about one the media or Hollywood or the Washington DC elite in the way, these people interact with each other. If anything Trump presidents is exposed how crazy and what little why light zone. We're living in it was very smart on his part. I think he knew from day one. I think this is his exposure of what goes on in the media putting everything on the table. I think he knew the day. He decided he was going to be president. I think he knew he was gonna win. And he knew I'm gonna do something. No other president has done, and I'm going to take the fight straight to them, and expose them for the liars, and cheats, and phonies that right there is why the mainstream media Hollywood you name. It anyone with a platform that pantheon. On of people that sit around with public voices. They will not stop because they know that as long as Trump is in power and has any place with voice, he's going to continue to expose that every other president we've ever had. They would have means go this president. You can't say it like this president he hit you can't do that. Because if you do this the media is gonna take Trump goes, I don't care. Why why do you have a job? Why are we don't need your John? Look at me. Tell all books are coming out. Now people who worked in the Trump White House, and it's because of that very thing. And you read them a lot of times, you're like that kind of sounds about right? Get with him. I mean, it's not some of it's believable. But then parts are just outright lies, and you have to wonder why they're doing it. And it's because he's completely dismantling everything that that town of Washington accepted as reality. And you said it completely pity is is swamped marriage. That's absolutely true in Washington. You talk about these people on there, you bad mouth them. And then you go to the bar after for most Americans. It's the most disgusting awkward thing ever. But that's how that town thrives. I you bring up an interesting point because during the cavenaugh confirmation hearings things got so heated Lindsey Graham gave his Lindsey Graham two point. Oh speech and everyone loved him in that moment. And he made a comment about these are my friends, and I was like. Guys are friends after this. Fascinating. Because in the press briefings, even the conservative outlets in the in the White House press corps. They'll be like Jim Acosta. He's not that bad. He's just trying to his job because they all have to stick up for one another always. And so I'm like, he's a terrible hang I hate him. And then I go to the press briefing. The next thing I'm gonna this is kind of. That's just but that's what he had all these same terrible stories. That's why you have even on the conservative side because at the end of the day in that town, everyone has to be friends, our friend WWE's to undertaker, very good friends with with the undertaker undertaker. I was with him last week. And he was telling me about when he got both his oxypan bones broken in his eyes caved in and he had to have the surgery of reconstruct his face, and he said, yeah, wrestling, my buddy, you know. That's the way it is. That's what you feel like in Hollywood. It's these wrestlers that that go at each other. It's a cage match and then now they're happy hour on Capitol Hill. I mean, there's deal. So I have to I don't think Jordan Kelly and are going to be. Say so what is his motivation? What is Georgia's motivation point question? I think it looks like he's just there to embarrass his wife, which is why can't the good thing. No one knows like most of the things that happen on Capitol Hill. I love to be a fly on the wall. All I know is happy wife, happy happy life. I think George maybe could could use that advice right now. All right Graham, so California just needs to be sought off. I don't know if you know, this would America's racist. The only reason that John is here is because we white people allowed him. Thank you. I don't know if you know that. Yeah. So Santa Barbara City College board of trustees President Robert Miller, basically said we don't need to pledge of allegiance anymore because it is riddled with undertones of white nationalism. Basically saying that the guy who wrote it to Francis. Bellamy wrote the pledge in eighteen ninety when he was concerned with the influx of immigrants. So that's what this is really about yet. Another attack on basic principles of being an American. How hard is it to pledge your allegiance to the very country that this the only reason that you're allowed to have such an asinine conversation of should we pledge allegiance to our country in the first the paradox of stupid in that entire argument is just it's incredible. I mean what we kneel? The anthem. God is offensive boys and girls can literally be whatever they want now. And now the pledge of say, otherwise, you big it. Yeah. We we kneel for the anthem, but don't you kneel in the end zone if it's to pray. Don't Neil that. Exactly. It's just another attack. There's something in the pledge of allegiance at something about indivisible. I think one nation under God indivisible that whole line in there while it sounds awful oppressive to me in that thing. So I I don't know. I think it's just we're we're we're I think this one hundred percent it has to do with with more just immigration sympathy right now. Right. I don't think this guy could give a teetotal Graham. I'm not gonna say. But but this guy could probably care less. This is just another way to get in the tabloids have some exposure for your mediocre college at nobody really cares about in the first place. How can we do this who have immigration sympathy? And we'll talk about the fact that we can't do this because it's you know. They they hated immigrants to I'm a little slow. But I'm still not seeing the connection between immigrant the whole thing. I've I've read it multiple out. You're not a real black person. There you go. I'm not revenue. Keep reminding everyone tells us all. You don't exist. You do bring up an interesting point about everyone being immigration sympathizers right now, which by the way, no one at the table. I think no one here would say we don't like immigrants. We all can recognize. We are a nation of immigrants legal immigration is awesome. We love it legal immigration illegal immigration, keyword there. Illegal. That's a problem. And I to the story, Tom Brokaw. I believe it was was in hot water just recently for his comments on saying he said that Hispanics should be trying to assimilate shouldn't be trying to as wrong with that. That is the point you come to the country. You learn our laws. You learn it love for our constitution. And that's what immigration is and to say that Hispanics to do more of that because they're not teaching Spanish and schools, and especially in California, they are all these measures to make it. So you don't have to speak English. And that's the exact opposite of how people should immigrate to the country. We had a video posted a video on social media this morning where I did a spoof of pretending to be Jim Acosta down at the border touching the thing. And then we have cross is pretty funny. So it's going viral today. So I encourage people it's not a terrible video. It's really good. So here's the thing. I had someone who commented on there. And they said because I do a thirty second summary at the end of typical video me and the truck, you know, and sitting there, and I said, I don't know a conservative that is opposed to or pro American person who believes in liberty opposed to legal immigration. We encourage it we want it. We want you here via lived in one of these countries. I'd try to get my family up here. That's what I'd want to do. And I made the comment I said, but we don't want people who come here illegally and undermined the foundation and the structure of our country. What we're built on it, and I had someone who commented on there. And they said why can't people bring their culture here? What do you have a problem with their culture nowhere in that video? Did I say anything about their culture, I respect their culture, they said, well, then what are you talking about the foundation of our country? It's very simple the constitution the constitution, the United States of America. If you come in you adhere to it, you believe in it and you abide by it. You bide by our traditions. You buy. By pledge of allegiance to the flag. That says you are one nation under God, indivisible with liberty and Justice for all you abide by a declaration. That says we're independent look you wanna come in here. And you wanna buy those things. I will I will throw my arms open for you. There's also there's also something to be said to about. Okay. Why do they want to come here because they want to participate in the American dream? How are you supposed to participate in the American dream? If you can't speak the language, you know, say that we're you're coming from is so amazing. So great. Then why are you coming here? Here's a reason why you're trying to come here. And it's because of everything that we've worked to preserve in this country. It should be. But it's not you are racist. The main argument to me all the time. How can you be against illegal immigration? When we in fact ourselves are illegal immigrants, and my response to that is first of all there were no laws back, then, you know, this wasn't an established country, and I myself in the president did not illegally cross into a country that had laws in place. So it's a it's an irrational argument that people use we came over here we stole it the country Christopher Columbus. However, you want to do it. But now right now in two thousand nineteen this is the United States of America. The United States of America has laws in place on how to become a citizen legally. And that's how arguments that really good people that really good people in California get such a bad rap because of the. That's a great point. There's like two of them. All two of them are George and Sherry are really good, folks. This year. To get into Carmela gum. In. All right. We just said the most awesome magic trick of all time. Although love John Miller. He was awesome. He had to run though, he was in the middle of something. And we are now joined by Mr. Eric bullying. The men's room. Yeah. I think he was he was too. Says in America's racist. And then he left the pledge of allegiance is racist. Nationalist, white nationalist, where you know, why you wouldn't know because it's privilege, California. All right. But before we get into KOMO comma, comma here, I'm just going to call you come Allah. We are going to thank our sponsor radius own. So it's still January, right? Yeah. It's still January, and perhaps some of us had some New Year's resolutions to lose a couple of pounds. Maybe that we gained the following year. Don't be embarrassed. I was also you I lost one hundred pounds about eleven years ago or so, and so I know the struggle personally. Yes, there's me that's me. The giant number ten. 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You were you're supporting. I married into roll tide. News. Carolina that would be. Okay. So Chad your top story is comma, comma, Malla Harris, she's said some pretty controversial things about private health insurance and Medicare for all. Did you catch Eric? Okay. I think that we have that clip. Let's go ahead and play it if we can. Follow up on that. Correct me if I'm wrong to reiterate, you support the Medicare for all Bill. I initially co sponsored by Senator Bernie Sanders. You're also co-sponsor onto I believe it will totally eliminate private insurance. So for people out there who like their insurance. They don't get to keep it. Well, listen, the idea is that everyone gets access to medical care, and you don't have to go through the process of going through an insurance company having them give you approval going through the paperwork, all of the delay. That may require who of us have has not had that situation where you gotta wait for approval and the doctor says, well, I don't know if your your insurance company's gonna cover this. Let's eliminate all of that. Let's move on. Let's let's eliminate filling out applications and buying things. You know, that's crazy. It's amazing to me whenever the Democrats. These days are throwing their hat into the ring. And they say they're going to run for president that they have to start either with a Bala Shing something or with an apology. I used to believe in guns. But I was not in thank enough on that. So now. Yeah. So this is reminiscent of Barack Obama saying you can keep your doctor. You can keep your plan. If you like it now, the left realizes that being democrat isn't left enough. You gotta go crazy left. So we have to abolish things we gotta get away from everything private everything privatized. It doesn't matter if you can afford it or you like it you don't need to go through all that. We're going to save you from the time and the energy of waiting on approval for a health insurance plan. And even if you're gonna Ford it, even if you like it now, what's the point? You can't keep it. Eric two thousand eight if you like your plan, you can keep your plan two thousand nineteen now let's there's a big difference. So Kamala Harris wants to be president. So let's say she wins. Okay. So now. Does. You always, you know, I come from the business world, you always do the worst case exam. What's worse that could possibly happen? Kamala Harris wins it's a different supreme court now because of Donald Trump, and it was in two thousand eight when you had John Roberts who's frankly, probably liberal making the final decision that ObamaCare wasn't fat constitutional as long as you call it a fee out attacks. It's insanity. What who the jump through to make ObamaCare legal then it will never happen again in our lifetime. That's the good news. I think what really is happening though, is it's not people need to go left. It's young people believe in socialism, they believe because they've millennials that have never had a struggle. They've never had a may. They've never had depression. There had really a major recession that lasted what a year and a half. So so yes, we can borrow. Yes. We can tack on debt. Oh, don't worry. It'll be okay. They don't know history that there could be the mother of all downturns if we're forty trillion dollars in debt under. To her plan in four eight years. You could really literally sink the Republic instead right now, it's never happened in my lifetime. So I think free stuff sounds pretty darn good. The exact thing that they accuse President Trump doing right now, they accuse Trump of, you know, saying, well, I won't be around here when it comes back to bite me in the end. But that's what they base their entire campaigns on anyway, doing these plans actions actually taking freedoms away from America's we're going to make this decision for you. And we're going to get it passed to where. Now, you have no choice, even if you want to go get private insurance. You can't do it. Because we've got Medicare for all this is what you gotta do is it that in and of itself the exact opposite of freedom. Well, yeah. But I mean, the left the far left is not concerned with with freedom. But you know, what's interesting to me. Also is that they if they were to look at socialized healthcare in the UK or in Canada or any place that it's been tried and true for a while there. You'll see that the people who really need care are forced to go to the private doctors and the private hospitals because. They can't get quality care there. So just accept twenty US Senator name rand, Paul. Face goes, the candidate a procedure. What we is a friend of mine, by the way. Why do you think kids stay here? You know, we're in the middle of major healthcare fight and really. Listen, you need surgery. Okay. But I mean, he's a doctor too. Context states. Do you know Philip Mountbatten Prince Philip he flipped his Range Rover what couple of weeks ago? Okay. He wrecked into a young lady. Forty six years old injured her arm broker wrist. She's upset because one the police haven't followed up properly. Yes. To queens, center, warmest, regards. But the biggest issue she has she's not been treated properly by medical professionals because she can't get into see anybody. Now, this is Britain, which supposedly has this type of healthcare, which she is which by the way, comma, Harris's ideal healthcare goes further they need to Britain because if you have money in Britain, you can still get private health care. She wants to do away with all of that. So this idea that we have this pie-in-the-sky because you're right there. I don't wake up every day. Most most young people don't wake up every day thinking, hey, we're twenty three million dollars twenty three trillion dollars in debt. I still go to the mall. Still buy new shoes. I can still turn the heat on in my house. My iphone still still works. I'm still plugged into the WI fi. They don't think about that. So, you know, hey. Three means freedom. Right. Well, I'm telling you there's gonna be consequences of that. Eventually, amen. All right. We gotta take a break. We'll be back. Prime example. All right before we go. I want to make sure to which are very good, friend Graham. A happy birthday a little something here for you. Your your wife told us that you really enjoy brownies. And let the candle lit so that you can blow for this borough. Yeah. Thanks for being here. Very much. Thank you falling as hosting tonight. Blaze TV, special media meltdown? You can tweet US Senate on Facebook. Hashtag delays. Lazy live what's trending tonight. Live to. Up next enjoy bonus overtime content from the news in wide matters. Available exclusively for podcast listeners and blaze TV subscribers. Not a subscriber. Start your free trial at blaze, TV dot com. All right. Just talking about how far left we've gone I want to get back into that. With some other some other issues going on. But before we do that one of our sponsor mercury real estate. So I think you guys would all agree that there are a lot of real estate agents out there who like dabble in real estate, and maybe do it part time. And maybe their face is on a bench at a bus stop that people sit on and you're like who should I pick. I want to to sell my house. Yep. Probably not the guy with his face where people sit there rear ends down. Maybe not the guy on a billboard smiling. Really creepy might I suggest that you use real estate agents. I trust dot com. 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And now she saying, no, I wasn't. I'm not raising her generalists. I'm just no trouble for herself in the same state Lawrence. Trouble usage, she controlling. That's what she said. Raising raising our daughter genderless. We don't know what she's going to be see the whole thing doesn't make any sense. We stay out said you're not allowed us those pronouns anymore. There's no he or she in California state. So what do you set you even worse if your police department it's going to you can't say a male per per female perp. You certainly can't say black white now have you heard these police scanners? It's male perp six feet tall with. Dark hair. We could be anybody literally how how stupid is that? That is the dumbest thing I've heard today. That is the dumbest thing I've heard day Terry that was the award. That is well, yeah, there's more. That is. How are you going to solve crime? If you listen the police scanners now, and you know, you're some of these police chases there is no no attribution to race whatsoever. What so ever so African American guy or Spanich woman, it's got to be a male or female about six feet or female about five. We're airing in a society that is so offended. It is insanity. I was at the student acid summit for turning point USA last month. And there was this gentleman from London there, and we got into a conversation. They said it's so crazy in London right now that we could be sitting here having a conversation and at the table back there, somebody else could hear us say something that they find offended, and they can press charges against us for offending them from across the room. I and we want you walk in you, Donald Trump, Donald Trump down. The patriot go in the bar, and he's like God, save the Queen or something, right? Throws of. Yeah. Kind of similar snap. I mean, it is crazy. High chicks are losing their mind. I will always be the voice of offense. I promise you. I will not apologize. Forget what Kevin Hart. Did I make a living mocking people? I make a living if you're black. If you're white if you're straight if you're gay I don't care, I'm gonna make fun of you. That's all that matters. And these people have lost their minds now. I can't get over this whole idea that that people are just really trying to make this a norm because it's not that. Oh, well, that's a wacko person out there that lives in Hollywood. But this is becoming they want our children genderless. They won't our daughter's thinnest. They won't our son's neutered. They won't are men a effeminate. They want Christianity. Abolished the list babies dead old people are irrelevant veterans don't matter. And this is this is the leftist known. It's not democrat anymore. It's gone full blown left. It's beyond. It's out on the tips of the wing, which I hope to God. Those feathers get shed off into the dust bent of history because this has become absolutely as you say ludicrous. It's gone crazy. The idea that you want to normalize this beyond just a trend. Mentioned babies Jad. And I think that that does bring up. An interesting point, Eric what what was going through your mind when you saw the state of New York gearing on their feet cheering applauding for the fact that women can kill their baby back to the the the ultimate example of hypocrisy on the left. So a pregnant woman is on her way to the abortion clinic with the intent of aborting her child drunk driver. T-bone Zor kills her and the baby double homicide. Yep. On her. But if she made it to the abortion clinic everything's okay now. Which one is it listen. I'm a firm believer in letting the states decide what the hell each state wants to do with it. I just don't get involved in the abortion or the or the I don't care who you marry who you kiss you sleep with. I really don't care what you care what you smoke at night or drink at night. It doesn't those things don't matter, but fiscal responsibility. I really give a crap about lot. But the hip hop. Hypocrisy of that example, is she doesn't want the baby she's on her way to boarding. And then someone kills both. It's double homicide just blows my mind. I I'm lost for me for me. And I agree what you're saying. And there are some things, you know. Hey, Mary who you wanna marry religiously I don't agree with it? But who am I to pitch force steaks and go after people, but if we don't value human life, and for the people that can't speak for themselves, which are babies if we don't hold that that that sovereign principle there, I think we are already did as a society, and I think it's not sustainable, we're going to tear each other apart. And it's all going to if the most basic understanding of human decency is not there that we don't respect life. You can have these conversations of racism, and sexism, and all that why do you have those conversations because you respect in value life and everybody should. Have this value of equality in life, right or no one would care? Really? Then why does it not matter here? I get a little bit concerned because I feel like this younger generation, that's maybe millennials and probably the generation underneath them. They're growing up where they have heard. It's been ingrained in them women's rights women's rights women's rights that they forget that it's actually a life. And we're we're teaching these kids that are growing up that it's not anything to be respected. For instance. You know, I saw a lot of people saying, well, you know, what if the woman was depressed or had anxiety or whatever. And they wanted to abort the baby I'm all for a women. If a woman is depressed, and she wants to get rid of the baby calling it a baby which I found to be ironic, then up to woman, and these are the types of things that I'm hearing from that younger generation, and it's just very frightening to me that okay? If you wanna make that argument. Six weeks into the pregnancy. Make that argument, but at nine months into the pregnancy and they're saying a Williams. Twenty four weeks months. The survival rate is up to seventy percent if you board at twenty four weeks, that's six months you've been to the doctor multiple times, you know, what the gender is which whole different conversation of it. So. Itself. You have been pregnant a while. So why wait so long, and what you just said, they're the biggest argument people have about this new law is oh, you Republicans and conservative overreacting. It's only if the mother's life is at risk or somebody that no that was the old law. The way the new law reads is if their life or health is at risk and the companion case of Roe versus Wade. Yeah. Yeah. Dove versus Bolton it lays out what actual health is. That's mental state. That's their age. So literally if you find the right physician, you can argue the case of the day before those be here. I can't do this. I can't do. This my boyfriend just left me. I don't have any money. I can't raise his kid. Get rid of it. I mean, it is a huge dark precedent that. I think New York has unfortunately, started a potential domino effect that could could impact the. The entire country here, Eric we're so excited that you're here. We're so excited for the special. Can you just tell us a little bit about media meltdown with the the recent story about BuzzFeed putting out a story into being refuted aggressively by the special counsel's office? And then the Covington kids, the choline Catholic kids when you saw the original idea that everyone ran within the media when you find out what it was really all about is completely different story when you had context we're all going to be here talking about the absolute meltdown of the media right now. But we have one question to answer tonight. Chad decide pop that collar on purpose or not. Playing to the beauty of this. Was not ready for that. At all. I was sitting here waiting for this and educate you on fashioned. Okay. Doesn't lay down. He's stove. Oh, this is like a Hugh, Hefner smoking jacket, baby. And you know, why because I'm smoking. You can see we've got a lively panel. On some philosophical answer the world problems. I was not ready. That was a good answer. You're not missing. L down by Eric Bolling. You can find it on blaze TV six to eight eastern. You can also watch it on YouTube. I believe we're also streaming on Facebook. But you are a subscriber. 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Ed McCullough on Lunar Colonization

American Antigravity

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Ed McCullough on Lunar Colonization

"I'm Tim Ventura from American gravity, and today we're joined by Ed McCulloch to discuss lunar and space colonization. Ed is an associate fellow at the American Institute for `Aeronautics Astronaut and the former chairman of the I aa Space Colonization Technical Committee and board of Trustees at the university space research. Association he's also formerly the section each chairman of the. State. Conference which focused on innovative approaches to colonizing space. We'll ed thanks for joining us. I met you back at the State Conference in two thousand six and my impression was that you'd really assembled a Dream Team of visionaries on space colonization there. Can you tell us what staff meant to you and how it fits into the larger picture of emerging research into space? Lunar Colonization. well, stay no longer exists in the form that it was in when you first met me. Essentially, what has happened is it's actually modulated into something that's smaller and It's being carried on by gentleman named Palmer at At the time there were five different symposiums and conferences going on, it's safe one of which was the symposium on space colonization. The largest ever got was up to think seventeen sessions. And at that point, the actual conferences stop not because of us but because. The University of new, Mexico I decided to change their policy on the conference and the funding Cetera. So that's the reason why that particular conference shut down but I would say basically that it was actually very good conference, we had phenomenal attendance everyone symposiums. We had for our long plenty aries that do a lot of attention and I think that. At that point we were able to get many very qualified presenters to come and talk on a mini mini subjects. We even had a lot of representation by NAFF at our in our plenary and end and a Lotta, the actual sessions that we had. So from my point of view that was sort of like a high point in the space colonization. Steve to is carrying on some of the propulsion research that was underway are they also covering space colonization? Space Colonization and It's my understanding that really very big a safe to We've been going to typically I aa conferences like the space conference in joint propulsion conference and things like that. But they was the largest madison got to be big enough. That was turning into a problem for a lot of people because what they wanted to do is they wanted to actually get to all of the. Presentations but you know once you have a enough, then it's not possible because a lot of them are going on at the same time. Now, I understand that this research also continuing like one example would be your work for. NYACK. Is that something you can talk about at all? yes. Essentially there's a night contact that's been one by team that I've been working on. So I can talk a little bit about it but essentially, what it is is a proposal to start building things like neil comedies and bigger but the axel approach to building them as different in that, we use robotics and autonomy and standardized techniques using ten segregate and other things that are going to allow us to get very large scale structures building space. This would, of course, also relate to space solar power satellites and other things like that plus. Ships. CYCLING SHIPS TO GO TO MARS and CETERA. Well now that you've mentioned O.`Neil Colonies, the best place be for that first space call me would that be on the moon or would it be analog range point space station I would say that the first place to send it from my point of view and not everybody agrees, of course, is on the mood itself. The reason for that is that You're there in the gravity field and it's easier to build something if there's an opera down plus raw materials right there plus the ability to actually easily move things around and and put them into alignment center. So it's easier to build in the gravity field. But that doesn't mean you can't do it in space because you just have to use different techniques. And so the big advantage on the moon is that raw materials are there and the they processing plants, our local CETERA. Well. If we begin with the Moon, is there any reason after that four L. point space stations like maybe a staging areas for exploration deeper into the solar system or or does lunar base pretty much eliminate the need for those? If you're going to be going to places deep branded at solar system you want to actually start from in places that are not far from the solar potential. earth inside of a gravity well. At. The point where the the gravity, well, the earth stops and merges with the gravity well of the fun. When you're on the sense gravity well, and not really affected by ear if you're on what's called the solar potential reputational potential. So in order to go somewhere in the solar system, you have to get on the sun's gravitational well and the closer you are to it the easier it is to drift away from the earth and start your journey to somewhere else in the solar system. And so I would say that the good places to be are at the the Earth Moon l one or l two because those things rolling about one point eight mega-deals kilogram to get to the solar potential or at l four and l five even Berry yet is if you're at the Earth Sun. I at one, forty, nine, L. to. Those places where you can actually build things There are lots of assets that are already there and it doesn't take very long to actually get a raw materials or partially finished materials from the moon to those locations Oh. Okay. So in that case, then the moon would actually be the staging here to to move things to the point. Well. Yes. Essentially, what you WanNa do is you want to actually have. As, much of your manufacturing facility in one place as possible so that you can dig up regular and make what they call mill stock materials. Well, it'd be called dot materials essentially lows on the moon, I? Don't know if. Everybody's hardware stores are called bows, but this essentially a big hardware store where you get building materials. And then you would be able to centralize a manufacturing CETERA chemical process. You know things like that to produce these modules and produce the propellant or to have the real gun, whatever it is going to take actually get it off to the moon on his way to the the assembly point of like building an aircraft carrier built all the modules in the shops have been you you lift them up and you move them over to the dried up and you lower them down and welcome in place. So l one L to various range voice would be the dried act now. The shots would be on the moon. Well, you've talked about the colonies on the moon starting with underground habitats and having a dome that would be built above them, right? Yes and the reason for that is that why you're there, you need to protect yourself from the radiation. and. So you need to actually build some place that has radiation protection, and after you go several meters underground, you know radiation is almost nothing and the temperature variation is almost nothing. And so it would be useful to build a stable shelter underground on the that doesn't mean you have to stay in the shelter. you be in habitats on the surface. But. If a very Larry Joh- Solar Proton event were to occur then you can retreat into the shelter to protect yourself until it was over. I actually wrote a a a a presentation about building giant Dome City on the moon and the set it up. So you could actually built all your. Your shops, all of your. What would you call it? Chemical processing facilities and all your you know habitats underground. So that you would have a place to go If for instance I there was an event, the damage, the dome. And you'd could save the quite a the atmosphere as I would say actually most of the atmosphere by using cry oh kind of. To convince the atmosphere through apertures and save it. but you need to go somewhere if if you have a major event causes you to be depressurize dome. That's another reason why came up with this idea of the city and also. Instead of having doors and things you know like APERTURES in the Dome, which do is to get outta the dome. You simply go underneath and take the subway to some other. Puerto where you can out on the surface. So those are the ideas that I had and I was describing how would actually build a city that big and how you get in and out of it Now in terms of the Dome itself, you've described building dome twenty five miles diamond or that's up to five thousand feet high in the center but enclosed in s class that's only seventeen inches thick. Can you describe a bit for me? S Glass. Is this type of glass that is strong steel and as described the s class there and I said that what would be required to build a saying something that's as strong as ef glass that has seventeen inches stick. The only issue is you can't build. then ask glass dome seventeen inches thick just from construction happens but you can build other things that are equally strong, which is the the final form of the domes that I came up with but I was trying to figure out whether it was physically possible. To even do this and the thing that prompted me to do this I. Took them. got a NASA photographed been passed around in mini briefings and showed this dome city over I guess it was shock within crazy. And I looked at it and I kinda skeptical as to whether you could do it. So I sat down one day start proving that it couldn't be done. And in the process I found out that it could be done. And that it could be done. If you had magically appear a dome made out of s class that was a seventeen inches. now, that didn't say. How you would protect the domes. Because it would be exposed to, you know like micrometeorites or rocks falling on it or whatever NFL, one single glass dome, then the whole thing would be destroyed. So really what you wanted to do was build it out of facets, which is what I came up with. Finally s class is unbelievably strong, but it cannot maintain his strength as it gets moisture on it. and. So you would have to find a way to protect the s class from waste. You're on the inside in for Mike you know chunks of ice, hitting it from the outside of center, and so it's come up with something that's heavier than ask meaning that you know is much thicker than seventeen inches and the actual mass of that can balance the upward pressure of the atmosphere. And it's made in facets so that you could actually remove a facet and replace it. and also if you're making it out of fastest surface of a sphere, then you can actually have just a few actual tiles that you would make. That would actually tell the entire surfaces. So not really manufacturing a bunch of different things it's just maybe One or two different privacy manufacturing and just replicate that you know. Values are millions of times in order to actually make the dough. And I guess that brings us to self organizing systems, which is something that you described where the Dome might actually be built by machines from smart materials that might have equivalent of bar codes on them. Well. The way that works is that you know you got two choices either you use artificial intelligence and smart machines in very immobile agile robot. So yeah US astronauts adventures, and if you're going to build something this big you can't even have ironworkers. You need to actually have something that can put many of these things together. without risking people's lives. and doing very quick efficient manner. you need to have offensively robots making more robots or like in that Disney's version of the sorcerer's apprentice where you keep chopping up the brooms and it keeps making bins. and you have those things put the systems together and that doesn't really take a lot of trouble. It just says that you need to have like a navigation system you need to have very good metrology You need to have very good robots or agile that can climb and and easily Terry things quite heavy and Lang them up quickly and I are both or weld them together. So when you look at that, that is a self organizing system. What you do is you just provide information in the per particles named the robots and the pieces. Go in and build this down and decide of self organizing systems goes all the way down to the laser is that you would put in your communication devices using wavelength, routed all optical networks, and things like that that are actually provide the basis for the artificial intelligence. Even those things can be built with self organizing. Chemical Systems Oh. Okay. So it truly is kind of a self organizing self replicating factory. Then now you described viral structures as well, which might be a nanotech variation this idea, right? Yeah. The the viral structures referred to something that came out of cal poly Pomona After seeing my briefing, they came up with the idea that you would have. Once again, a bunch of small robots with essentially have that have IP addresses. And fill. Every component is going to go in as an actual Ip address and you can send information to and say where it's supposed to go and the robots can talk to it and find out where it's supposed to go and what orientation it needs to have and you just sit. In front of a monitoring, you watch, don't system build itself. Okay you need to add to it is the energy. You need add all materials. And, the actual structural form namely where the places the things are supposed to go into space, what they're supposed to connect to a wet, the structure supposed to be in various stages of the construction because you just can't construct a dome, you have to actually build a system of support to them while being like fabricated and went suits is fabricated. You take these other systems down there like scaffolding. Yeah. Well now once you get together I guess the next piece there is putting an atmosphere and. I understand that one of the difficulties there is that the moon doesn't have enough nitrogen, right? When I actually wrote that briefing the nitrogen was suspected to be somewhere around one hundred posts per million and when you consider how much atmospheres required for a like that and what the actual concentrations of the nitrogen in Iraq you find out you have a very serious problem. That building, the Dome I is a certain level of difficulty but finding the atmosphere is several orders of magnitude worse. than the problem building the dome. OHKA and. Didn't you think some people who understand these things well, we're going to have to go somewhere where you can get an atmosphere. So we go off to the moon's in the outer solar system when we come back with the nitrogen and that's the supply train. But it's going to be required. But what's happened since I wrote all that was at the L. Class actually hit them and we found out to a greater degree what was in those polar craters or in the polar regions and one of the things I was hoping for was ammonia. and. So it turns out that the concentration of nitrogen is much higher than price for million. So that problems ameliorated to a greater or lesser extent. We'd have to actually go continue to characterize the amount of a yeah. That's in the the polar craters in order to find out how much of an amelioration there is did problem. Once the atmosphere someplace I guess another component is power and you described embedding solar panels into the Dome which allows it to basically generate solar power from the Dome itself. Right yeah you can say that twenty percent of the area of the Dome could be photovoltaic panels. But other things that compete with that and so you can say, okay, ten percent of the dullness photovoltaic panels and another ten percent is like translate fevers for making the Dome into a Radio Telescope. So, essentially, you could just take the Dome area and then you could see multiply by a number of factors. That would deal with view angles too. So you could find out what your maximum and minimum power is going to be, and the idea would be to actually use some kind of storage system. Consisting of either cryogenics, which would be easiest if. She would have a very large reservoir of code material or US some type of like chemical batteries or you would use some type of. A wells. That you would actually out the been irregular. Underground. So you'd have a large reservoir essentially magma. Underground that you could use heat source to augment your tower when you had a low view factors to set. Well. With energy and with atmosphere I guess the only remaining component there this battalion of the atmosphere as well as water is that something that might be found on the moon Actually unifying water on the moon at the equator. You can take giving meter of regular. At the mooner equator and with that, you can actually generate a kilogram of water simply by heating it up what's happening is there's hydrogen absorbed onto the the particles of regular. And surface area. So high that there's quite a day maybe sixty, one, hundred, million. And there's ironside there, and if a heated up when it's been happened is the Dinesh is going to reduce the anger and oxide take the oxygen away and turn itself into staying. Off. That can be convinced and so he's going to get a kilogram of water for a cubic meter regular at the equator. Now. When you go higher and latitudes that increases say like at eighty or ninety degrees you running get by ten times. Ten kilograms of water, and then the polar craters itself based on the lunar profit. You would get thirty four times. But now he had the Al Cross date and what it says is that the place where the cross actually hit the surface of the moon, they got readings of something on the order of five point six plus or minus three percent. Wider. That means it could be anywhere from. Five Point, eight, six. Two two point six weight percent. That if he had a ton of regular ten percent of that is going to be a hundred kilograms and eight percent of that is going to be eighty kilograms water or since he would have fifty six kilograms of water for every time of regular. That's quite a bit of water more water than anybody needs. Yeah and it sounds like if you've got water, you have atmosphere and you have power, it sounds like that might be able to become completely self sufficient which I know is is something that. A lot of people are excited about given the cost of transporting anything out of the Earth's gravity. Well. Well the the water, the atmosphere and the actual structure provides you with something where you can drink. You can breathe and You have a stable environment, but you still have to eat. And you're going to need actually produce a range of plants and animals in order to have a diet that sufficient to keep you healthy and so there is the issue of sustainability that we have here and on the moon. is slightly more difficult but not impossible. The bigger habitat and you have the easier it is to actually get all those things correct. Yeah. Yeah. Well, another thing you won't be able to create with the water is propellant fuel right use solar power to create propellant out of the water, and you'd said that if mon is available, I guess that might potentially other feel sources well to designed sound accurate. The reason why you WanNa. Monia. Is you want to have a talent that will actually stay in the tank without a whole lot of trouble. When you're dealing with cry trial, Jains, you have to actually continues the. 'cause otherwise, they'll change to a gas. And so there's a lot of work that needs to done in order to keep the clouds ends in in like a good state whereas with with nitrogen, you can make a number of different types of storable propellants that will stay in a liquid form at normal atmospheric pressure is without a lot of trouble. with, refrigeration machine. So it makes it easier for us storable talents identify. JAINS ninety allows you to make the storable propellants. Oh, I, see what you mean. So so you can generate oxygen hydrogen then storing and becomes yet another energy drain on the colony and so. Yeah. Yeah. That makes sense. Well so it makes sense also that this colony would be a lot better position than we are here on the surface of the earth to explore the solar system, right because they'd be in a shallow gravity well so Would that be kind of an incentive to develop of these colonies The Moon is two point eight mega gills per kilogram below the solar potential that means if two point megajoule. Per kilogram to your material, it will actually leave the Earth's environment. In order to do that from the surface of the earth requires sixty four mega-deals kilogram. Which is twenty times more essentially. So launching something from the moon to the solar potential is much easier to do than munching from the earth. Surface. Launching from out to. One, it's even closer to the solar potential, US around one point, eight naked jobs per kilogram. So as even easier to demolishing it from them, and so you know if you're going to be doing outer solar system work or even put scientific instruments to. Various places in the solar system you WANNA, do it from places that are close to the solar potential. The moon happens to be like a nice place to get resources. In order to do that. So that's one of the reasons I've been working on this stuff for many many years. Well now in terms of having people up there, doing work and causing the moon and stuff even if protected inside of a Dome I've heard concerns about microparticulate dust getting into suits giving air locks and ultimately potentially causing lung and respiratory issues do is that something that has been addressed here? that's something that blew up into a big problem discussed for years with Runchang you can deal with with faith. Essentially like what I'd say people weren't seeing was that the smaller it is these microbes, shards of glass, the more trouble they cause, but the more surface area they have. And you could take diffusion limited processes when you increase the surface area that increases the productivity. And glasses or they made out of silicon. Oxide. and silicon oxides are very susceptible to things that have fluorine in them. Hands toothpaste mixed in with the ceiling material and space suits and everything else and when I say toothpaste I'm just like kind of joking about something that has free fluorides that can be donated in order to destroy Silicon Matrix on this article say sixty microns it looks like an Arrow head and it's going to actually do a random want through the membrane on your spacesuit and caused it to become perforated adding anything that can donate fluorine will stops at what it'll do is it'll change the sharp pieces into things dad basically like pieces of chocolate have no sharp edges on them at all. and. So there are a number of ways to deal with the space dust and and I haven't seen any at all. In the literature that doesn't mean it exists because I haven't really like Scott been scouring literature, but you can actually deal with all that stuff chemically with almost no trouble whatever. Oh okay. Okay. Now, that's when they're outside and then when they re enter an airlock, do could they just do kind of a wash in water to take that off or would it be too difficult because the size? You can actually essentially do like wars with like. You know like Like I said was again, something that has like a much free fluorine to face I know the exact same thing essentially, what you need to do is get it off of your suit out of your bearings and other things like that and just dissolve it. Yeah that makes sense. Well, another another aspect of this is potential muscle atrophy in bone density reduction from the reduced gravity I'm wondering how much that would affect colonists benefit means it would be kind of a one way trip for people who were working on construction of the dome. I remember people won't be working on the construction. There's no touch labor for almost anything there. But the issue of the decision logical effects of gravity different from the gravity on the earth is the problem. And essentially, what needs to happen is we need to take advantage of the more advanced research that we have coming for medicine. And Physiology. So people known that this is a problem for a long time. And I actually was involved in setting up a conference at the National Academy of Science called research enable by the lunar environment and half of the The presentations there were based on ways to actually characterize ameliorate the problems associated with the adverse effects of the space environment on the human or animal muscle systems, circulatory systems, nervous systems, etc, and people can actually. Go, read those conference notes or get them off my website at Cetera, but there is a serious problem. So she hit with the the space environment namely the gravity environment with many of the body systems and it's not just humans. It's just you know for instance mammals or I don't think that for instance, it would make any difference whatever to marine life. Because they don't feel gravity anyway. Sure. Well, with all those things in place, how much do you think that the total cost approximately would be to build this lunar colony and how long do you think it would take to build? Got Thank God that it was fifteen years. it has to do with first of all types of like machines that are needed for. How many of them are needed and the the energy to goes in because she cannot produce. Anything at any rate unless you have the energy that's required to match your production. So. It means that if going to. Have a certain production rate. You have to have the energy systems that are going, allow you to do it. Now one of the things we can do is on the mound, we have a significant amount of solar power available. And you can collect that power and you can store it so that you have. The ability to have a surge pile of energy. So you can actually use more or less of the energy depending on what you're doing in a particular construction period and that the the surge capacity allows you to buffer the energy usage versus the energy accumulation from the sun. Okay so that would solve kind of construction part of it. So be about fifteen years now is there even kind of a speculative budget on what the cost might be or or is that still up in the air? if you do this correctly and we looked at this so we were planning a private lunar mission about six years ago. There are a number of different business models that allow you to do things for the earth that can actually bring in revenues, which means that once you get past a certain point, the activities the move and can be self sustaining. So you need to actually get from the initial phases to the production phase where all you're adding information. And all the manufacturing is being done using the energy you're getting from the sun so that the only really issue you have, where are you getting reagents? War, getting your you know exotic electric, parts CETERA that. You could do on the moon but may not be cost effective. and you're you're pulling these things with with supply trains coming from the earth. So the way we were looking at getting space solar power going was actually go up and set viable businesses on the mount. So very first time we in power back in the moon namely in the form of radar beams. Down ten is on the earth. Then the thing is self sustaining because you can actually pay stuff off fastened. Very, rapidly and continue to increase your production rate of energy, and that pays for everything else that you're doing on the Moon Oh. Okay. Okay. So there would be. Can't is bringing the gross world product from. Roughly, four forty, trillion dollars a year up to around eight hundred and sixty million dollars a year by selling power all around us. Bringing everybody standard of living up to RS and so you know this thing is a money making thing for everybody starting in about thirteen years. From you know a standing start to thirteen years at first light from the moon then after that everything pays for itself. Well. Can you tell me a little bit about the project that you're trying to put together to to actually realize this vision? Well what we had before was we had a number of different and this was with clouds types who used to be one of the chairman of the space colonization technical committee. He actually came up with the business model and had been working on it since around. Two Thousand and two. Of of coming up with viable businesses that you could place on the moon and makes it your data storage for instance, like having a An actual detector on the Moon Remember we're building something in Texas called the superconducting Super Collider. And the the people who benefit that where the particle physicists and if you actually go build a ten meter cube of ice on the moon, what you're going to get is be tactic that will be able tax things that happen say three or four times a year particle events that could have never been produced. on the the in Texas. Which means that that you know like superconducting supercollider didn't have enough energy to make these types of events but on the moon, you would because the cosmic rays can actually get to such detector without going through the atmosphere. and. So you would see like particle events that you can never even gotten with the superconducting supercollider which means that you could have actually saved a lot of money being the cost of the superconducting supercollider and still have gotten all that data and it's still possible. We know all this because when calls Heiss decided? Okay. We're GONNA ask you try it after with colonies on the moon and Cetera, and here are some business options. He Actually Forum something called a moon base coalition, which is hard to find on the net now, but it's still there. and point was bring in a lot of people from international locations of lot of scientists are and have them figure out what's the advantage? What could you do? That would be worth money. There were three eat meetings about three days each. One was at the national. Academy of Science at the CAT building where the National Research Council. Now. The one was in Milan Italy and the other one was in. Moscow. And all those are all the findings while those meetings are online. various places and keeps changing because people keep taking them off and putting them back on. but you know just talking to the people? Who are responsible for it? We could actually get all that information put back on the web. And it's a phenomenal amount of information on opportunities to actually use the mood for a lot of things dissolve a lot of problems. At I was involved in that the took the findings from all those meetings and we use them to make business land. we actually went to a institutional investors. And got a commitment for seven hundred and fifty million actually with seven hundred, million dollars. My role was go get the engineering teams. That could do this and go find a way to get discounts on launch vehicles. And I won't say the actual Prices but we got phenomenal discounts on launch vehicles and we had the best engineering team of the twentieth century on this team was from what was called the space skunkworks. It was managed by migration and Pete, warden they did the D. X Delta Eighty one, eighty, one, eighty, three to low SAF misty. CLEMENTINE DC X. and. Did those things in very short periods of time and very low cost? One of the things that made it possible for them to do. It was to operate in the bags with environment and dispense with the normal nonsense that you see in aerospace Management Cetera. And have everybody operating without a badge. So people can talk to each other and a lot of the social ills of like operating a big company guy and they were able to get phenomenal results. The results were so good that the Russians complain to the United States government that having this kind of research going on was destabilizing in the Cold War and so Clinton shut them down. But when I was transferred into Boeing from Rockwell through McDonnell Douglas, I was bored right into the space skunkworks. that's how I learned about them and found out. How well they performed? CETERA, and those are the first people I went to in order to find engineers do this. mission. Oh. I would lunar mission was canceled because of politics but you know thinking about starting it up again, I might be able to pull this off Either you have the money and no engineering people or you have the engineers though money. So like right now, we're in a situation where we can actually get the money and there's no longer limitations on it. we actually our business plan had gotten you know seven, hundred and fifty. Sees me seven hundred million in commitments with the stipulation which I really won't go into but the stipulation didn't work out. The stipulation should have gone to the ballistic missile, defense? Organization but not. NASA. So that's the reason why we didn't do sure. Sure. Well advert we're almost out of time for today, but I'd like to thank you again for joining us I can't tell you how much I appreciate your joining us discussing this and. If People WanNA learn more about your work they can visit your website at explaining the big picture dot com CA. Can you tell me a little bit about the website and what's on it? Essentially has quite a bit of information about bay solar power. And issues associated with power period, and it has most of the briefings today got cleared to give a when I was working at Boeing. I have my resume and it has like a bunch of links. Again. That's explaining the big picture dot com and Ed thank you for your time. All right. Thank you very much.

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Ep 257 | The Left Stands by Joe | Guest: Colion Noir

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Ep 257 | The Left Stands by Joe | Guest: Colion Noir

"Welcome to the news. And a why it matters. I am Sarah Gonzales today, we are joined by a very special guest, Mr. coaling on war front. For being here. Again. Great to have you once again, Stu, what is the top story for you? How to deal with Joe Biden? Okay. Oh, gosh. Oh, you mean middle class? Joe middle-class Joe lunchbox truck show. Okay. Good. I can't wait to hear deal with. Deal with whatever. Oh. A surprise. But I wanna talk food. I want to talk a little bit of food. I know stunner food. I'm with you to this is going to take up the entire show those two out of shape people. Learn. Clean it. Insane amounts of talks about avocado toast, and oh, yeah. We're getting to the avocado toast. Later, Colin with the. Surprise anybody? That's federal judge in California, basically ruled that California's high standard capacity magazine ban to me is unconstitutional. All right. Alexa, get into there. But I think our sponsor I target pro. Do you know about I tiger pro? Okay. 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Get ten percent off right now with free shipping with promo code news. That is I target pro dot com. Stu how do you deal with lunchbox? Joe Joe's been accused of some very terrible things last couple of days to women come forward as we know. And said, hey, he touched me inappropriately. I'm fascinated though by the reaction to this in the media because these are like, the left-wing reaction sounds incredibly familiar. They see to be bringing up points that I've heard before can we start with Meco on the Joe and become morning extravaganza. A lot of folks. Will say that women need to be believed in her, and I believe they should be heard. But are we allowed to bring up that Lucy Flora's as a huge Bernie person, and she has, you know, political connections that might be counter. This could be we're hold on. Is it okay? To bring up this could be politically motivated or are. We just supposed to take all the words. And the fact that she says she was violated face value. Are we supposed to just leave it there? What these these are points? I've heard before I almost feel like I heard them the bread Cavanaugh the period made by completely different people. And those people were disagreeing the entire time. And they give another example, this is from the view yesterday. Joe is a hands on Canada. Yeah. But no one I've never heard anyone and she says she felt violated, and I have to take her out of work, but it would have been nice if she had turned him and say, you know, what Jay I'll really like, please don't do this or not Mr Vice president. I'm not really comfortable with because he's standing right there. I don't think it rises to two point. We've been listening to about how Cain and the rest of. These people it just doesn't look like that. And you know, we'll know Joe Biden his been here. I remember when I met him in Florida before he was vice president, and he was so friendly. He's the close talker. He comes right up facing thinking. I hope my breath is good. Are we going to get to place? We can't shake hands. We can't hug each other. Because to me comfortable, I worry about. Are these people we're at the twilight? Insane. When you watch that, you know, I think if you could step back these are really good points. Like, these are all really rational this story. You know, they all really make sense. And it's different than the Cavanaugh thing in that we have tons of evidence that that Joe Biden actually has done these things he's done them on camera to numerous women. However, this is a rational way to sit back and think about this. You seem a little fresh. We just went through literally what was it not six seven months ago, this they were they were so Arden about the fact no my God believing face value. Don't question. Anything victim blaming. Believe leave all women. What do we say, you believe all women women are human beings, take them at their word? You do take them at their word. But you also hear them you, listen, you take their accusations. Seriously. You don't just believe them. That's not our system at all. That level cognitive businesses. Just not registered my mind. And I'm going to just have a change of heart after the Carbonell here. And now all of a sudden, they understood movie were coming from. And now, they're. Limb and say, no, yeah. Right. Because we know the next time a Republican is accused of something they will forget all of these points and all of this logic. And this is this is the part I kind of want to go into on like why it matters here. It's a it's a tough thing. I think for conservatives, and I always I I struggle with how to deal with this. Because part one of me, maybe let's call this. The the bad part devil, the devil on the shoulder wants to say, oh, you're the little precedent. You set where everyone believes everything. Well, guess who's victim of today? This little world, you set up is now victimizing you, and it makes me really happy heart the game on the other shoulder. However makes me think well, look there is a we complained about a double standard, right? And we're complaining about a double standard here. And when you have a chance to see a double standard, you need to take the next step and choose which one of those standards, you think is right, which one do you want? And I mean what I want is this one I want the standard. Which we actually have a process we have innocent until proven guilty. We have we have. We don't believe the worst people. We don't take every politically motivated accusation into and just throw out lives because of them. And so as much as I hate to defend Joe Biden, I think he would be eight terrible president. He already was a terrible vice president, I mean, I he's gotta get the benefit of the doubt here. And I just amazed to see the media go down this road. Because I can't give them the benefit the doubt they know the points before and they just chose not to make them when it hurt them. I feel like this is like a shot across the bow though for for Biden saying, and we don't think you should run. Oh, yeah. This is Joe I know you're leading the pack now because you have jumped in the race. But don't jump in. This race is not for you. Joe? Take care. Yeah. We won't do this to you. If you out now, I'm even the biting Cam. Pain came back and said, you know, look chose been an affectionate guy. He's. He's done kind expect more winning for like, they're even saying, they're preparing everyone, more it. I mean, if he gets into this race, it could be a half of a state can come out. Come on and accused him of being touchy feely. No one's ever accused him of being the going farther than just being that being that hands on touchy feely guy, right because even even as a little bit creepy are absolutely weird and creepy, but even the Las Vegas, Nevada lady said that she wouldn't think it wasn't. She didn't feel that she was molested wasn't enough. That was that. It was just he's this. He's kind of his victim of his time. I think doesn't make it right? Creepy. No boundary. Joe? No, I'm not saying, I'm not acquainted being molester or boundaries xactly. He just doesn't understand personal space clear. Right right now. Are they goes, right? That's right. Intent is important here. Right. Like, I mean, we they keep trying to make this new standard of its in this particular situation. It's what the woman felt like. So he's done this thing to you know, dozens and dozens of women many of them come out and said, I didn't mind it at all like I love Joe Biden. And I was happy. He was consoling me. Right. Like, whatever to me. It's a weird creepy thing. But it's not a creepy to everybody. And because it's not a weird creepy thing to everybody. It can't just be the feelings of the person on one side of it. It has to be the intent that's important. It's not one of those things it's like madmen slap and somebody on the bud as they walked by this is not to that level. So because it's not to that level. You know, you can't just say what her feelings are. We can't let people get convicted over someone's feelings. What about your standards here? So what about the standard that what Goldberg said on? View that it's up to the responsible. The woman to then sakes, me Mr Vice president. I don't find that to be appropriate. What do you thought that had to do with the power structure, right? It was too much power. You couldn't say that. You couldn't say I wanted to say, no. But he was. So which standard depict there? I think that the proprio the appropriate standard. I think, you know, look in these some of these cases where it's there's a physical threat. You know, you can understand woman being able to speak up and say certain things if someone's in your personal space, Jefferson, my personal space all the time and ask him say, dude, I have a personal space thing that you please move away say to all the time and this idea, it's true. But I think that is part of it and not even in a bad way. If Joe Biden comes up, and he's being creepy Joe. And he puts his hands on a shoulder and say, oh sorry. I'm just weird with personal space. He's gonna be okay. I can't imagine. If he keeps coming after that. He's absolutely guilty. I mean, like if he's not if he's don't believe in the power structure excuse. Team interaction where there's a kind of all right, man. I'm awkward here. But I know if I say something about this awkwardness that I'm feeling it may make things overtly awkward, maybe I just need to shut up and take this awkwardness. Then the question becomes how far do I do that? How far do I subject myself to this level of awkwardness and how consistently depending on dealing with? We are talking about creepy. No boundaries job here. So, you know, if I'm interacting with them on a daily basis and public and he's constantly. And I'm just feeling weird about it. The question then becomes it's I'm not quitting to a level of him being a sexual predator. But it's like all right. This is getting a bit much, right? But then he is Joe Biden. Right. So then the question becomes all right? So are saying anything, and if I do he might feel awkward about it. And then now all of a sudden, I'm out of a job, you know. Get what I'm saying. I think there's a level of that too. I mean, I'm not saying that, you know, if we're going to talk about Harvey Weinstein, and what happened with him that, you know. Okay. They got to a point where they were in private, and they had plenty of to say, no and all of that. But I'm talking about you know, these are women they're standing in front of a crowd, and he's getting all up in their business. You're in front of people, and you don't really know him. I mean, unless it really bothered me. I don't know that I would say something. However, if I don't say something, I'm not coming up five years later. A bingo. That's that's your time to do. It is at the beginning. And you know, it's a tough one. There are these different power structures that can be you know, they could add to the strange this these interactions, but we're getting to a point where everyone wants us to just bring along our W two Forbes and show them to each other make sure okay are in two point six times as much as you. So I can't say these words, but I can do these things like we're human beings like every relationship every marriage starts off with at some point. There's a first kiss. And every guy knows the first time you go in for one. You have absolutely no idea. What the hell's going to happen? Not maybe not everybody. Maybe that's just me. Where you have to go unless you specifically get contracts. I you're not gonna know. And if if you can't have that first interaction, and if you do it, and you don't read the room, the exactly perfect way that you're going to be some sort of her sexual harasser, overturning thousands of years of human interaction, and I don't I don't trust the left of today to do that. I don't want to give him that power. I wanna bring up something here. That's going to table is the inherent generosity. Mercy. That is present with respect to our dedication to logic and reasoning and objectively that is not provided to us. You know, indefens-, right? You saw my face got kidding me. Jochen be under the bus, respecting your logic. But yet here we are debating the very talking points that that they tried to undermine before. Now trying to use to their advantage. But yet we're we're able to sit here and talk about it in such a way. You guys are all over the place with in terms of consistency ninety algae and as far as merit. But it speaks to that aspect of the media that that's more left leaning that is inherently incredibly childish, it's very juvenile because there's there's there's no standards basis. It's just everything is free flowing in whatever direction. I choose to to my vantage at the moment we here have angels on now. Well, what about the left? Jeffy in the left. Loans out all of his experts. Get into food. Sponsor home title, lock sue. I know that you have worked with them now for a while. And I when I started hearing about this I was like home, title fraud is a thing steal your home. And you'd never know it. I know it's really look at it. It's really kind of a failure of government. Right. It's like these these forms are filed with local governments, and they can easily forged turned in. 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It's totally worth it to to make sure you're not a victim of you can't get a hundred dollar search for free right now. Find out if you have already been a victim of home title fraud by going to home title, lock dot com. I guess I'm just going to open the floodgates and let you thought we can talk about whatever food you want. Talk about food. We can talk about food coming across the border if they closed the border down. We're not gonna have Cottle's. I mean tears coming to my. You're joking changing for me that is a crisis. There is a crisis at the border. If we do not have avocados. Grows of Konno's. Can we not get other countries? Oh, we would much to have second grade. And I know that there's blackberry issues too from Mexico, Jeffy. It's a problem. That is how we convince the swamp. True. And we also have AOC's big on getting rid of all the cows. And the me, but I don't know if she needs to right? I mean, we've got thousands of restaurants now serving up the impossible bird with the impossible meats and Burger King is doing it with all their restaurants in the Saint Louis area. Now with the impossible Walker. I just want to. Suicide vegetarian America's only conservative budgetary. That's true. Good. You are. That's a factor. Burger, and I'm sure you've had it been dying to try it. But I haven't had it. But it's it bleeds. Fascinates news. No. Yes. Forty percent. Hey me yet. You want the fake meat? They look just like. I think they're trying to sell it to people who don't. But it does. I mean, they they actually and this weird thing they they debuted the new version at the CS the consumer electronics. Whatever that's called that one in Vegas. Engineer. Talking about that. Instead, though, even the people the meters were like going crazy over it. Because it's like really really good that new version of it yet a couple of companies. This was the impossible. This was impossible burger. And there's plenty there's beyond meat. There's hundreds if not thousands of restaurants that are already serving now. So I mean, I don't know how deep we want to get into this Bill give you a quick virtually possible burger is is certain proteins pea proteins. But there's a particular it's all plants the particular. I don't know what I want to say ingredient. But it's it's it's a plant. So there's not an ingredient in it. But there's a particular part of the plant the hem. I think it's called H Jimmy, and it is what is the same thing that that makes meat tastes like meat. So they take but they're able to get the same part? It's exact same thing that makes meets tastes like meat. But it's not meet the same stuff is eating. Like the couch really inefficient veggie burger. All the veggies converting it into a burger and in very inefficient way. So it is interesting though, I will say that they're making seven thousand burger kings. It's going to be an it's already about seven thousand restaurants around the country dumping money into this thing. Whether it is or not checking the besides the cancer burger kings already they're going to plant. I won't I won't say it for that. I am sorry. Kado? I know the woman I would like my that soft weird Gucci green fruit vegetable thing imported into our country. Good old fascinating too. I love my meets. But I'm telling you don't eat avocado. I didn't like okay, I used to make fun of people who have avocado toast. And then I had a. So I can't make any anymore. So it was kind of one of those things next. Join it. Toast. It's just something toast is an exactly dynamic. Thrown some green goo on it. I mean, I don't think it's gonna make it that much better. Which by the way, turns from green to a weird gray and just. Okay. And you've got to put some lime or lemon juice on it. Okay. I'll make sure to never remember that. Next time you guys we'll get impossible burgers, and we'll do a taste test. I would like to do that. Because I'm fascinated at how much this fastest growing charging more money for very expensive dumping dumping say the inspiration to this comes from some vegetarian reasons. But also, it's a left-wing climate reasons stuff they wanna make it into a thing. Like, Bill Gates or just dumping money into this to make this thing with me. Thank you. This is a longer conversation into a product that they want to taste like the actual thing. Meet more healthier. That's. Me. That's pitch. This is like a commercial. So didn't tell you. I want to go back to because I I can't. Expose myself. Gun ban. And you're going to again. We don't have time to get into the gun. So I would like to state for the record. I don't eat KADO tos. Gonna leave me on the clip about see I was trying. To say is I would eat avocado, toast, if carbs in my diet, right? It's I can't. Avocado toast is not basic. Avocado toast is. Toasting needed with your thinking. Are you need in secret? Eating bedroom. That bananas you'll never see me eating in public. Good reason. All right. We'll be back in a minute. Meet debate lasted so long. We're going to get into the California and the new law in California, high capacity magazines when we go into overtime calling on. I tell everyone where they can find you can forming on every pretty much social media platform, you think oh, just search coil and Nawar clubbing on. Instagram, a super spy, I'm working on the movie script. You can find him there. Also in case. Well, actually, probably no one is aware we just launched a new YouTube where I'm self promoting. So we just launched a new YouTube for videos that I have been doing it's called Syra Gonzales, unfiltered. So why don't you go right now? Like literally right now, go to your computer. I subscribe for free. You can't describe how pay any. Right. 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Up next enjoy bonus overtime content from the news in wide matters. Available exclusively for podcast listeners and blaze TV subscribers. Not a subscriber. Start your free trial at blaze, TV dot com. Klay on before we get into what's going on in California. Did you say that you're coming out with a new video about Cory Booker just in response to you know, him running for presidency? Good use what he's gonna do for the country nominally. Yeah. I approach it mainly from very kind of from gun Senate standpoint. It was like me. A lot of these pretty much every candidate running on on that side of the ticket is anti gun on my reasons, why just because there are a lot of people who don't know a lot about these candidates stand onto a and it is important to them. They just don't know. And so they're willing to people who may be just left of center on center so forth and so on and so try to put as much formation out there possibles make your decision. I have my opinion it is what is much formation as possible. Gorbun is definitely not program that he what did he say his hall doesn't mass shooting every day? There's a mass shooting everyday in America, which I was interested to find out because they're not doing a very good job reporting. That they would be all over to that. Big incidence. They must be skipping out of a different Factbook. Yeah. I've really is. I'm in. So I already a blue state. He doesn't have a great grasp of the English language. The blurts things out. And I think he's like to him generally speaking like he knows that mass shootings have happened. Like that's how he summarizes that everyday right labor. You know, Texas. There was a close election recently. It's a blue state. That's just who this guy is. Needs to tell him words actually mean things. I heard tie Clinton fortunate to have very good command of English very detrimental way. Yeah. That's true. Actually. That's very true. All right. So what's going on in California? So judge basically said that the magazine standard capacity magazine ban. It exists in California that did exist on constitutional. So now, people can have their standard, capacity magazines. There was a ten round limit in California with respect to magazines for me that was always a hassle because whenever I go to California always have to find a gun carries more than ten rounds. But the magazine that's arbitrarily limited to ten rounds and bring it into California because otherwise I'd be committing felony. And you know, the gun communities pretty happy about that right now, I'm still going to go through some appeal process, of course. But as it stands right now, you can own standard capacity magazines, legally in California, I'm shocked that I actually ruled the right way on that in California shell not the fringe is relatively clear language. Yeah. It should be pretty clear. You don't want it to be right? Exactly. I always love the high capacity. Like, it's just so subjective. Hoping is this. I say stand capacity kind of you know, facetiously whether it's stand capacity high capacity unlimited capacity super-duper capacity at the end of the day. You you creating laws that limit that capacity only limits the capacity to people who are willing to obey the law. And as a result of that the person who's coming to commit murder against someone who does have a gun, but follows the law does not want to murder. Someone is going to fall a law and limit their capacity against someone who doesn't follow the law. And now you put me in. I'm just going about my life already. I'm already at a disadvantage when someone decides he made wanna come kill me one day not on top of that. Now, you giving him more firepower to do it. Thank you. We're seeing that we're seeing that around the world exact in other countries that have been struggling with it. I know New Zealand you do the show did the story about net. Very many people have turned in their guns in New Zealand before the gun turn in program. But there's also a big story about the gang leader saying we're not turning in our. No, go ahead their hours. And so I mean, you're the disadvantage disadvantage, and and sometimes I wonder if these lawmakers are are they wear this. Or is this done on purpose because it doesn't it's not a great leap of logic to understand the dynamic of what happens if you create a law that tells me I need to limit this tool in order to prevent someone who doesn't follow the same rule from owning saying tool just you don't have to be genius to understand that. Maybe we should just make a lot that makes it illegal to commit murder rate. I run for office do that. Solve everything. I'm interested to hear your take on on the bump style. Literally went about really, okay. I am not either. And look we all know Democrats would be worse on these issues. But I mean, the idea that the president by himself getting a law passed let alone constitutional amendment dangerous, very dangerous precedent. And you know, we're talking about one hundred million dollars worth of stuff. People have bought around the country that was legal now, they're criminals for having it, and that is something that that story product. Yeah. Exactly. What is the Harris do with that power as president been about? That is imagine. I remember when you know dealing with the issue right after Vegas. What scares me? Eating scares me. Even more was what would have happened if it gone congress because at time God the door would have been wide open. We wouldn't be talking about on stocks. It'd be talking about way more. Speaks to the very like I said every juvenile reactionary nature of that sought hate being so divisive in that regard say it, but I got the call spayed Spade bath majority of time the left accident manner, and it's very juvenile. And you know, it's very reaction. We're very motion and emotion driven. And so from that perspective. It's like if at this point we're going to respond to this the same way after every shooting. We're going to basically respond to the point of no longer having a constitution. Agenda. What is and you can't tell me. It's not true because look at New Zealand just tried. Yeah. And I'm just amazed at that is used as an example to be praised. Like, hey, they reacted in a heavily emotional circumstance by a wide plan of law abiding citizens and their property like that's not something you cheer. That's something. Reason you have a legal struggle. Erica like is. Because that varies type of slow it down make us over rational decision when your emotions are flaring. And instead, we're like, oh, well, they had this window of emotion where New Zealand wasn't going to push back against it. Even though the people didn't seem like right now they're turning on his weapons in. But there wasn't gonna be a big uprising because it was such a terrible terrible event that the use the emotion and let didn't let the crisis go to waste. So it also didn't have to make got on his truth. We were in the same situation as Zealand after Vegas, literally the same heightened sense of your motion the same demand for doing something that actually probably would have gotten done the difference. I think is one we have a constitution to do have an organization like, yeah. Doesn't have that. They do have. They do have their program organizations, but they don't have as much leverage or nearly near the amount of power or influence and just getting stuff done. It has done in this country in terms of protecting that second amendment, right? And so I think people tend to undervalue that constitution and also in and if you can't see that by what happened in New Zealand. I don't know what to tell you is. That's exactly what happened. They didn't have any of those in place to stop safeguard against making decisions based on emotion in reactionary. And now look at it literally trying to ban everything. Speaking of the juvenile left to AFC all Alexandria Cortez. Had some good ones. I mean. Keeps on giving loved her. She's a peach. She's she's wonderful. She doesn't always know the things she's talking about. I've noticed let me give you a couple of examples here this first one is about the the green new deal. We need to innovate on our technology. You know, obviously like Stafford police Documenta talk about cow flatulence. But which issue I just wanna say ridiculous. But it literally, but actually is an issue when it comes to contributing to methane. But that doesn't mean you end cows. It means that we need. What it means is that we need to innovate and change our grain are cow brain from which they feed in these troughs, we need to really take a look on regenerative agriculture like these are solutions. I don't know that that's any of the points were accurate in that. First of all nothing is an issue. It's a if you if you're on the global warming thing. A gas. It's more potent than co two, but hold I also leaves the atmosphere a much faster. Can I can I also just say that she acted like it wasn't a big deal. She's like, I know I had a staffer release thing about how. And then when Chris was like, well, it is. And she's like, yes, I agree. Just got done dismissing it now, you're on board. So yes, and it's not far burps people need to realize, it's not cafardo culprits one side. It's the other side. That's the that's the issue there. And again, I love this thing. She's trying to walk your with with the FAQ on the green new deal. If you have a draft document, and you mistakenly release it within a few hours, you correct it and put up the correct document. They still have not put out the correct to this moment and beyond that if you ever had someone on your team turned that in as draft you would fire that prison immediately. It was horrible. But also, I don't think there's a thing called cow, grains. I don't know what they are. If there is something, I don't think grass. Jordan Peterson and pull a thought experiment. We can. Right. Can you pull it clip up? Is that possible you wanna play it again? So I wanted to close her eyes and listen to the clip. And now I want you to imagine a child. I want everybody watching us to do this. Vague on our technology. You know, obviously like Stafford police Documenta talk about cow flatulence. But which use an issue? I just wanted to say your sounds ridiculous. But it literally, isn't it actually is an issue when it comes to contributing to methane. But that doesn't mean you end cows. It means that really need. What it means is that we need to innovate and change. Our grain are cow grains, from which they feed in these troughs, we need to really take a look at regenerative agriculture like these are solutions. I'm just Giles. Channels twitter. It's literally a child trying to pitch something that makes absolutely no sense. And I'm not trying to and I'm not saying that just to be funny. I am, but but she really legitimately just thought process the way that she specis point everything about her is is very much chew, vinyl and childlike in. It's very big right in which is great. However people's lives are actually affected by the decisions that you make there's an entire country dependent on certain decisions that people in your position make that affect the country. And and I'm not really chastising her as much as chastising the people who voted for her chastising Boston University. Graduating her people devoted are in a little better now. Anyway, according to local reports, she's thinking that she's part of the country. No, big the bigger picture. You gave a child the keys to the house. What do spec? One more time this time, I want you to close your eyes and picture Joe Biden standing behind resting her face in her hair. Okay. All right. We don't have to do. Let me give you one more. This is a history lesson from Alexandria Cortes. When our party was boldest time of the new deal, the great society Civil Rights Act. And so on. We had an carried super majorities in the house in the Senate. We carried the presidency they had to amend the constitution of the United States to make sure Roosevelt did not get reelected. And we so many extra ordinary things that were happening in that time that we're uniting working people totally all pictures like a. Hi. Roosevelt was long dead by the. He could have been reelected. I don't think that's the way on the great look. I mean, we screw with the constitution enough. Maybe that could happen. But I'm pretty sure you're not allowed to be like when you're dead. And the other thing is like, you know. Yes, they did have super majorities, and they did all these things. Those bold things actually had at the end Democrats passing constitutional to make sure the old democrat couldn't have that whole situation again where he gets elected four times in a row that was a pushback against the exact era. She's praising they were. So they thought it was such a bad idea. She just I mean. I it's tough because in part of me wants to see her as just like, look, I mean, it's almost impossible. She was literally a waitress two years ago at a bar, and you know, of course, she doesn't know anything about anything on the other side. She's a Representative in the she's got massive influence right now. And and these these moments need to be pointed out people need to know that she doesn't know what she's talking about. Or we're gonna wind up spending twenty thirty forty trillion dollars on her nonsensical ideas. Good news is all we need to do is just letter opener mouth. And then it becomes very clear. She has no she's been opening from the moment. She started running on new. She was not the position over based on very superficial aspects that we don't and should not be voting based on period. And we continue to do it. Absolutely. All right yesterday's poll. Trump has threatened to close the border and Democrats are hitting back and calling Trump's threat a stunt. What do you think Trump's call to close the border ninety three percent of you said it is necessary. Seven percents that it's a stunt. I feel like we need a poll redo just bringing up the facts may get you may have an avocado crisis on your hands. And see how that changes the number. Off. I think it'd be like seven to three. Today's poll President Trump just announced plans for GOP healthcare reform following the twenty twenty election. Do you want to see Trump tried to reform healthcare? No, not really. But yes, it would be great. If you could actually get it done. How about this? How about this too? Unsure. If you vote that way, we're all gonna yell at you tomorrow. No seriously. I mean, I don't I just what happened to just repealing ObamaCare. Right. Why? The house of the Senate of the president. Makes it impossible when you have control of all of the separates chambers. Right. We fall into the same trap. That's always set for conservatives. Which is well, the left has said government needs to do these important things. And our response is well, we want the government to do it a different way. And like, no the government doesn't have to do these things. We didn't have Obamacare's new. It's five years old. I mean, it started in two thousand fourteen that's how recent it was when John Robert Roberts was inexplicably approving it and lending go through that was that was two thousand twelve hasn't even started yet. I mean, we are not that far into this. The fact that we can't even consider on on Furling a government mandate. Like this this soon after it starts shows why we have to fight so hard before these things start because once they get in man. I mean, even conservatives even even among Republicans, the approval rating has gone up, and I think it's up to thirty eight states now that have the Medicaid thing and there including a bunch of red states. Professors better than cure. No. But I mean, seriously, I I don't trust the government to do any kind of healthcare reform what they do just repeal the current regulations all of the ridiculous things that are part of ObamaCare repeal that and be done with it. I don't Trump can do a lot of things right? I don't want him tinkering with my healthcare because I think in the same way that Nancy Pelosi and all of these people that passed the previous Bill knew nothing about health insurance, which is very clear, and I say this as a health insurance broker, so don't send me hate me. About I analyzed health insurance. Points. Insurance broker, and so I've taken the classes, and I've gone through the history of why health insurance was created. And I was screaming at my TV every time. I heard talk about it. 'cause I'm like, you don't even know what you're talking about in Rican policies on voted on. Sure. All right. Let us know what you think at the pleases Twitter. Thanks for being on with us. Just have come again. Okay. Been too long tomorrow. He requires. Reappearance fake, burgers, those things. Thanks for listening to the news in white matters. We hope you enjoyed the podcast if you'd like to watch the program become a blaze TV subscriber. And start your free trial now at blaze, TV dot com.

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"That were, devising a scheme to cripple. America they could hardly do better than the Biden Kamala Harris Kamla. Remember cameras she started at fifteen, she was supposed to win. Problem was she went from fifteen to fourteen to twelve to ten to seven. To four like a free fall. You know what people don't like her. Nobody likes her. She could never be the first woman president she could. Sell to our country. Who've Noor so tough talk they're a little question for people who don't like trump but lean right in a second. At Armstrong and getty dot com some unbelievable stuff and I would not claim that falsely. You got my pictures from the enormous Santiago Maga- prayed but more important than that is. A video that I watched last night and I tweeted it is a realistic depiction of reaction time. For a police officer if someone pulls a weapon somebody reaching into their car, the whole is at a gun is not a gun. It goes through all those shoot don't shoot scenarios in real time and it is incredibly revealing. Yeah. When I did shooting training with some police and military thing got several years ago it was really really interesting grueling and hard but very interesting. I'm pretty sure it was twenty one feet was the distance. If you're within twenty one feet, a guy with a knife can get to you before you get your gun out and shoot them right twenty one feet quite a ways well, and then I. tweeted another video yesterday that was a guy with a knife attack the COP and the COP shot him like five times. The guy goes down. Then he gets up again and then he commits an act I don't want to describe on another cop until they had to shoot him again, the reality is so vastly different in the comment on the one video was in Joe Biden says, why don't you shoot him in the leg I mean, which is just fantasy land stuff but anyway go Armstrong and getty dot com watch that video. It's the ODA loop but it is it will be enlightening trust me anyway having said that. There's a a piece right now from the Atlanta out today from the Atlanta Journal Constitution, of thousand people double voted in the Georgia. Primary says the secretary state that's who they're aware of the far now the. Secretary. State one Raffin sperber what's his first name doesn't matter? says a double voter knows exactly what they're doing diluting the votes of each and every voter that follows the law that makes the choice to game the system those that make the Choisir breaking laws secretary state, I will not tolerate it. The describe a chaotic primary were record numbers of voters cast absentee ballots during the coronavirus pandemic. Some voters weren't sure whether absentee ballots would be received before Election Day decided to vote in person to ensure their votes would count. Voters are allowed to cancel their absentee ballots and then vote at polling places along as their ballots haven't been received by election officials. It's unclear whether the voters under investigation attempted to do. So it's unclear to me having read this weather indeed the process works of I show up at a polling place and say to the retired Lady did my vote counted yet I, don't know that she had a mechanism to do that efficiently fought because they don't always update those lists promptly. according to the journal Constitution. So anyway, bubble So at least a thousand people double voted. This Gal who's with the Georgia all voting, his local voting rights organization. Listen to her quote. They only did what they thought was right to make sure their vote was counted. Well, you don't know that about a thousand different people, but we'll let that one go I like this one voters are not criminals. Nobody's claiming voters are criminal. People vote multiple. Times are criminals. But you take a Georgia primary election. One is the total number of votes cast double voting punishable by one to ten years in prison and fined up two, hundred, thousand dollars by the way. Really I didn't realize that big a crime. Yeah. Anybody ever get it not very often am trying to come up with the total number of votes to get an idea of how. People of this, the national elections going to look like but took millions, millions of votes in all about one hundred and fifty thousand people who requested absentee ballots showed up at polling places on election day often because they never received their absentee ballots in the mail or decided to vote instead in person or. those thousand voters did both. So holy cow November is going to be a P- show. As we mentioned earlier, states are right now changing the rules are writing up the rules on how to deal with this changing them from the way they've always done it all around trump versus Biden you know. So blue states are changing the way they do their absentee. Ballots are how long they're allowed to count them to try to make it more likely Biden can win red states or trying to make it more likely trump can win. It's all of them are going to be challenged. They be challenge after the fact somebody could go back and challenge it and say no higher percent. Yeah, and keep in mind that to avoid A. Dengue show what you'd have to presume that all of the bureaucrats and all of the volunteers understand the new rules and implement them correctly and in a timely manner. Good luck with that. So I don't want to spend too much time on this and where he out but a tweeted out a question yesterday actually is tweeting out some information on the various tax plans from. Biden trump in the stark difference between them and the dispatch could did a good job. Last week, we were talking about that Biden is proposing trillions of dollars in new spending. The reason he kinda gets a passport is because the people he was running against like Bernie and Elizabeth and even Kamla they were proposing between ten and forty trillion dollars of new spending was. So out there his thing three to five trillion seems like nothing but it would be vastly more than any. Democratic candidate has ever ran on way more than carry or Obama or Hillary Clinton, I mean not even close multiples more spending and so. I. Before the last election where we were having lunch with a one of the best tax attorneys in America and it was just a couple of days before the election and I remember bringing it up and he said it's very simple. If trump wins your taxes, go down. If Hillary wins, your taxes go up well that that's more or less the way it's going to be this time around to just with Biden trump and trump biden. Is GonNA spend a ton of money. So for if you lean right if you're a lawyer only problem was that the the trump company eliminated state and local tax exemptions. So those of US living in high tax blue states got screwed. Yeah. My taxes did go. But Anyway, I love an asterisk there for understandable reasons sure But so if you're if you're if you lean right if you lean conservative smaller government lower tax person. Not Vote for trump. Even, if you hate him, even if you hate his tweets, even if you think he's a jerk even if you think he's a pig sexually even if all these different things. I don't I don't quite understand that I. don't quite wrap my head around I. Don't get the the. I refuse to. Be told it's binary choice crowd. I just don't get it. It is a binary choice. Yeah. Just is when it comes down to it on election day were either going with Joe Biden Donald Trump nobody else is gonna win but those do people now could Elvis I'm not talking to you people. You Nice people This is their point of view. Trump. Will so tarnished the Republican party the lose the next five elections. They think trump is such a corrosive poisonous presence that that he must be defeated. We must concede this election. Grow government for four to eight years. It's like back before. Yeah. Right wasn't shrinking it in his next four. No girls more under Biden that clearly that's the problem with the whole thing. That's these the tax and spend party versus the spend spend will grow under one will grow more under the other. Either way will grow and our debt will go up. That's horrifying to me. That's why it's just disgusting to me that you know both part Nita Party cares about it. Now, the NBA is dead to me, but before it was dead to me, my favorite team had a incredibly talented player who has they say a cancer in the clubhouse he was a malignant presence they could never ever win with him there they had to get rid of him and lose quality. Performance temporarily ever have hope of winning in the near future had to take that blow to look to the future and I think that never trump republicans that's what they're saying he trump is that presence? The only way we can be healthy and four years. If we dump them now I don't happen to agree with them because you know the world has gotten. So weird politically nobody knows what's going to happen but that would be their argument. I. Think one responses is taken in the responses because I was actually interested in it in a serious SORTA way. just what people's thoughts were on that and. Somebody said well, I smugly vote. And so you know I, can look down everybody. Yes. I've gone back and forth on this in my in my life because I voted Libertarian I voted Green, party once when I was young I voted third party or whatever, and I get the idea of long-term growing parties and it can take a long time before you have. Either you know. Unlikely. Any of those parties are ever going to become the major party, but you know you pull either the Democrats or Republicans toward you in such a way get some of the stuff you want button it it does allow four and I've done this myself I know in my own head it does allow for a smug well. I'm I'm not involved with either. One of those I vote were these when when in reality not for everybody but in some cases you're just avoiding. You're just avoiding the nuts and bolts of choosing one of these. It's GonNa. Be One of these and whoever it is will be imperfect exact floors and you gotta deal with it. It's it's very easy to go through my vote Libertarian and You know I'm above it all I'm above it all they both saw in the which they do but I just I just think it ignores reality. Do you think Mitt Romney's of the world are doing something similar to that when they don't embrace trump? I don't want to to not deny that you can absolutely follow your conscience and and be disgusted by trump. At topless joint or whatever sure. But when it comes down to a two person choice no matter how many times you WanNa scream and a lot of pundits do that it's not binary fused to be put that whole. It is one of those. Yeah Whoa. Yeah, I would suggest that particularly given the politics of. Kamla Harris because Biden will not survive his first term. He will not finish his I. If he's elected I would wager John Norma's sums of money on that proposition. Watch me by my standards and I'm very cheap but. Having said that given Kamla Harris's politics? To me, you say, are we get trump in there and then we we work to keep him reasonable and then you know if trump has damaged the brand, which is the perception of the Mitt Romney and the Jonas Goldberg of the world if he's damaged the brand that we weren't like crazy to rebuild the brand. That's the solution. The solution isn't for years, a Comma Harris and her cronies that that could be ruinous. Honest people can disagree. Chances Some of you may have noticed partly because we say it out loud. I don't hate people I disagree with don't the time life's too short I've gone back and forth myself on all these topics I just mentioned so. I don't know our text line is four, one, five, two, nine, five, K. FTC four, one, five, nine, five, K. F. T. C.. If you haven't heard about what the Oscars is doing there's you thought they were whooped before they're super woke now Ho goody. All plus this is one of my favorite logistical have seen a longtime eight recently declassified Darpa projects. The Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency these are the guys that think wh outside the box for the military. Some of these projects are just amazing or a little frightening on the. White. Getting. and. Armstrong and getty show. Finally did you guys see this scientists reported the mice? They genetically mutated to be twice as strong as regular mice were able to maintain their muscle mass after spending a month in outerspace according to the scientists these mice returns from the International Space Station with quote ripped bodybuilder physiques. Time and time again, scientists are crushing it when it comes to tackling the big problems right now on the. Swallow mice. Obviously. That's important for sending people to Mars or whatever because that has always been a problem in the past when you're out in space and you lose all your muscle mass. Three days in space with our astronauts and they can't walk when they get back says mois run around with those stupid stringy tank tops bodybuilders were. Got Big. Arms okay. Crate. So Darpa, coming up we got a lot of good stuff. What is gas lighting guy gas lighting why's it called that? and also the Oscars are more woke than you could have ever imagined. It's just their new rules for winning an Oscar. Amazing. You thought they were self righteous in luxury last year. Well, wake up. You'RE GONNA. Love this. So Darpa the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency. Has All sorts of wild projects that stay a classified for a very long time. but they are like super out of the box innovative new technology. How can it help the military Maybe maybe are glad about this maybe you're unhappy about it but there are two things that drive a great deal of technological advance number one. The military and number two porn, and so it just is what it is but they have they're getting some good financing subsidies as I. There's a lot of information near, but we don't really have time for it, but here are eight. We're Darpa projects that that have come to the public I. Recently, I found this interesting. Number. One plant eating robots. The energy autonomous tactical robot problem they were trying to create robots that could feed off plants. They could raise like a cow wow and use that biological material to turn it into energy for its batteries. Before, the project stopped development in two thousand, fifteen, that's engineers estimated that eater EA T. are the energy autonomous tactical robot that that that would be able to travel a hundred miles for every hundred and fifty pounds of biomass consumed. So the idea was you send out these robots to fight in the military new batteries run out or? Gasoline or whatever you're a moment. Sure. This way they can. Find a a tree in much. Yeah. Wait a minute I'm biomass. O. Look. Trying to trick you by giving you a vegetarian robot riots. Now, there's going to be people what we've got one minute left. Oh good. Good show planning WHO's in charge here? Oh I am. Good Time Joe well, and we'll have a little bit for more these list but I love this one. Particularly if you know anything about combat or or you know people have been in combat or you've seen documentaries whatever houses well, fortifications that repair themselves. Imagine soldiers, fashioning buildings and fortifications out a lightweight scaffold. Instead of you know plywood the heavy sandbags whatever these scaffolds quickly begin to fill in with dermal material all on their own. When that material is damaged, it grows right back to where it was. That's terminator like Yeah Yeah it's obviously some twenty-first-century chemistry and. South ineffective three. D. Printing. We don't have time to explain it, but it's the growth of engineered cells. Self repairing barriers to keep the soldier safe. Armstrong and getty. This season get football on your time with NFL game pass relive all the action with full game replays resort. Again we're. GonNa. Catch every snap in just forty five minutes with convinced gangs. Tax. Learn from the froze with dome sessions while she never Israel missile chestnuts and get access to the NFL Films Archive. GO TO NFL DOT COM slash game pass to start your free trial today NFL game pass where football never stops. The Armstrong and getty show. This is the craziest election. This is the creek look somebody said, what's the difference? Between. Crooked Hillary Clinton. And Slow Joe. So the differences the following? She's meaner. Probably not as Nice I don't know you can't get any worse than her. But the big difference is she's smarter than he is okay. He's a nicer person, but he's not smart. Not In prime and certainly not now. Your. The other day perfectly seriously and I thought that was just him evaluating Hillary was. Smarter but meaner nobody liked her by Missouri likeable and a Nice Guy. But just not very smart. I thought that was him summing up his opponents so Hollywood has gotten even more insufferable, but I WANNA finish up this list of eight weird Darpa projects came across plant-eating robots, houses, or forts essentially that repair themselves, it's engineered cells in Three D. Printing put together. So a blast comes through the wall. It heals itself to protect the soldiers amazing stuff lab grown blood. They grow red blood cells in a lab. Instead of inside human beings and then have to get a transfusion or donations or whatever, and it's decreased the cost of a unit trans fusible blood for more than ninety thousand dollars to less than five. Counts so much as I got to believe making blood, that would work would be a huge huge deal for the battlefield. Yeah. Yeah. Indeed a cyborg insects. A WAY TO PIGGYBACK SENSORS ON REAL INSECTS DARPA spy bugs part of a twenty, zero six project that wanted to do what we describe. They're Working University of Michigan, and Cornell within a few years. Researchers had developed interfaces capable of controlling insects actions does that fly have a microphone if plain old spy bugs weren't wild enough the insects eventually received nuclear power as well. How okay. NUCLEAR POWERED CYBER? Bugs. Wow that's crazy. A brain implants for PTSD treatment. They're working on that robotic infantry mules, robotic mule. Let's funny. That's my new a southern jam band. It's they're actually kind of cool it. Well, they look exactly like you'd think they'd look it's a robotic mule. It's tech carry heavy items during combat. Let's focus on the nuclear fleas and more on the PTSD brain implant stuff. I was in charge of resources. They got plenty of resources also related to the mechanical. Mule is the mechanical elephant that was Darpa began working on that in the sixties during Vietnam because it's so hard to move. Through the dense foliage in the rest of it and they thought alright elephants do pretty well. So we need to design a mechanical elephant But when the director of Darpa shut heard of the project, he immediately shut it down because he thought it sounded. So ridiculous Congress would yanked funding. So. Anyway, and then finally nuke propelled spaceship Darpa invest in researching. Space Travel Project Ryan is a program that's been going on for decades. Now, seat research new means a spaceship propulsion including relying on nuclear bomb detonations to power craft forward to hit astonishing speeds but they were worried about nuclear fallout in band this project in the sixties. Because of you know. various treaties that band exploiting weapons space I had a friend a friend had a mechanical meal at a friend. I was at his wedding he was at mine. That's a pretty friendly. He was a computer genius and everybody in the world is trying to hire them for various stuff Darpa one to hire or the government wanted to harm to work Darpa pay really well but he couldn't handle the idea of contributing to the weapons of war. So Donna do it which I thought was. I'd rather we have the best and they have the best because wars are going to keep happening but especially on. Engages no conquest or anything like that. We just try to keep things functioning. Do it. Course Tampa wouldn't have me what are you good at I didn't make jokes about the news. It was kind of interesting to see what it's like. If you're talented because he was like, I said a computer genius when he got out of like regular college. Every college in America was just throwing crap at him to try to get him to come there. Eventually. Went to Columbia but just everybody and I must be wild like to be wanted that Pham. It'd be like it being a star athlete only it's a skill that isn't going away in a few years. You can do it the rest of your life, right? What is to be wanted is that always wondered? Fun It's got to be kind of interesting. I just came across this before I, get to the Oscar which I thought was just too rich. So, CNN had a picture of a young Joe Biden with his son like laying on his chest very cute picture dad and like level year old and the kids got A. A Maroon cap with a yellow ball on top of it and somebody just a quick pauses this war hero passed away far too early from cancer son or stripper impregnating son. I'm sorry I'm sorry profiteering in China stripper impregnating I. Don't actually know which Senate was but Cute. My to improve. The Art of exotic dance. He wasn't doing it at that time as a four year old with his head on you know it's an excellent. But anyway, it's a cute picture and the kids weren't Maroon cap and somebody thought wait a second. That's clearly a Washington redskins cap and they did a Google image and came up with the original picture. CNN or somebody had photo shopped out the Redskins logo. So the kids just wearing a maroon knit cap without the redskins because this is early seventies well, they're literally no erasing his three. What because you thing with you because you would think the Joe Biden and his son were anti native American I guess if he had wearing if he had worn a redskins cap living in Washington, DC in the seventies on my putting, how insane are we going to get I don't that's bizarre. Well, I guess that's political activism. That's not like a racing history like Marxists WanNa? Do with police. Think of it I don't know I the the woke young people in America's newsrooms that may be our most serious problem. Yes, it is. It is or more serious problem culturally speaking the covert is going to go away the economy's GonNa Bounce back. All these things will will will get okay this this weird intersection. Critical. Race theory the violence in the street stuff it's growing well and I don't mean just socially I mean it's our biggest problem to quote Abraham Lincoln because I'm better than you. There is late great. Abraham Lincoln one of the funniest things trump. We know he's dead. No, his great. Anyway as as Linkin another's have have put it. There is no. Outside force that can and the United States. There's no existential threat to the US from without the only thing that can ruin us. This is within I almost hate to quote James Lindsay on this because he might regret have regretted saying it he is the woke expert, his the critical race theory expert in America. And and he tirelessly battles against it but I heard him on a podcast, the other day and he he tries to be non-political. He's obviously left E.. She's not into politics at all. He said I don't see in they're talking about the presidential election. You know what do you think would make it better and he said I don't see any breaks on this at all I see no brakes on it so far we're just like a car breaks a cars brakes and we're just screaming the direction of this stuff right now he said the only difference is I think Biden winning would be an accelerator. Just because you know he's not gonNA. Push back on their guard like trump ended critical race theory in government. training Gada weekend. Yeah. I saw that actual letter that was great. Biden wouldn't do that now st no to not cross those people. Lindsay's not political at all but. He's sociopolitical. So he probably does regret saying that, but it's undeniable. We ought to share with you that letter we gotta get to the Hollywood. There's so much how crazy the Oscars are in a minute. But first, a quick note from our friends at simplisafe the best the best overall home security of twenty twenty according to US News and World Report. But listen to this not only is better. 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So they know we sent you simplisafe dot com slash Armstrong since we're going to talk about. Since. We're going to talk about movies. This movie debuted forty years ago not sure number one, any Oscars we're gonNA talk about a different kind of odds, and that is the odds that will be in your favor. When you exhibit perhaps the greatest comedy motion picture of all time, this is going to make et look like raiders of the lost Ark this is going to be the kind of thing that your children are say dad I can look up to you now and I never could before. God I mean we made a lot of cheap movies for you. Guys made a lot of money. Now, we kinda spend a little more than we're supposed to Columbia. Pictures have spared no expense to make this a fine science fiction comedy. About this. Is Dan. ACKROYD and bill, Murray talking about ghost workers. They put out the theaters to convince them to show the movie. It was a it was something they sent out to particularly independent theaters saying, Hey, this is a little something you might want to consider it your little art house cinema. Now you had one guy with one of those sputters was a black guy. So yes, Winston was black guy and and then the one guy was Jewish believe. Will rearrange was in the movies but I don't think I guess later on, he was kind of an ancillary ghostbuster Reynolds Jewish counts as a minority for some reason this is important is an I'm reading for the La Times New Oscar standards require best picture contenders must be inclusive to compete if you want to win. The Oscar for best picture I do you have to Ha- you need to meet certain quotas to do it, which is the way all great art is made certainly we all know. Novels songs. Movies television shows on the best artists made with quotas. So they came up with this a couple of months ago. This is an attempt to be more diverse to be eligible for best picture film must meet at least two standards on across four categories of diversity, onscreen representation themes, and narratives. So the theme of the movie has to be inclusive of a variety of groups and it's unrepresentative groups including women, people of Color. btcu plus people and those with cognitive or physical disabilities. You have to touch on at least some of those not only in the cast and they're talking about the main cast. Alright from what it says in the New York Times those standards regard one of at least one of the lead actors were significant supporting actors is from an unrepresented underrepresented racial or ethnic group. One of the lead actors are significant supporting actor. Soon, that group of people that the movies all about you can't have if it's World War One movie, a bunch of white guys no no. You gotTa Have I. Don't Know A. Black Guy Wander. Through their trencher at least Mariuchi. At least thirty, they've sent a Mariachi band with clearly Mexican people to entertain the troops. Llanelli. Shut them up where we're going to be bombed by the Germans than the Mariachis. And you never see them again. There you go. Here's your Oscar Bait. I'd Joe Getty. Quota. Consulted. Yeah. No problem I got this. A touching coming of age story set in a Norwegian filming a fishing village sixteen year old boy and girl, and love trying to confront their Nazi past. Let's see the globetrotters come to town and play an exhibition game and on one the dates that go see the globetrotters check hundred thousand dollars. At least thirty percent of all actors in secondary and minor from certain under representative groups and the man. Called the globetrotters again. and. The main storyline theme or narrative of the movie has to be centered on an underrepresented group to qualify for a best, picture Oscar nomination, and they went through the list of a bunch of movies that might not have made it. That have one you know lots of Oscars. Including nineteen seventeen, the World War one film or the Irishman that came out last year was a piece of crap but. He was a great movie. It was bad but it was long. I just I just? Find this absolutely. Amazing. Yeah, and this is from liberals people who think art is important people who send their kids to expensive colleges to get art degrees they want to have constraints on art. The liberals do. Quotas. Good luck with that. My loathing of Hollywood. Well, it could get a little more intense as it turns out but just. If if it didn't. Indicate what James Lindsay's been talking about that this is coming on hard in society as a whole. I can just roll my eyes and move on said good. Eat Yourselves your cannibalizing yourselves and I think it's hilarious but it does mean that that sort of racialist thinking where everything is broken down to your identity group, you can only get a job if you're this or you can. Only be fired. If you're not that or you know, you can only move into a neighborhood. We have quotas in neighborhoods, quotas, everything. That's dangerous. Is there any chance at any the older liberals because we're always talking about the liberals over fifty seem to have a different view of these things like a Rob Reiner makes a movie with like what you're talking about here Mariachi band. Orleans. Exactly like really stick his thumb in the eye of the or you get some, you know a three hour long goodfellas type movie and then Then you it turns out Henry also wife at the end of it says not only am I leaving you but I'm a lesbian check we're down here. Hollywood quote a consultant. For the. Three hour she's been a lesbian you didn't know. Your bias there you go solve. The Armstrong and getty show. Remind me talking about Taylor Swift yesterday. Now she's had the number one album for six weeks in a row or something like that, and so I thought I'd listen a little of that in my my kids like the t swizzle and usually Jamil. Taylor Swift. So I go to the Andre Music for children it's almost entirely explicit. And so I couldn't any of them. Yeah. I had no idea. She does a song with Bon iver. If you know him, that's kind of a different flavor whatever I don't know if she's taking a song that's a good song. Yeah. I'll have to listen to away from my kid but there maybe she's making a turn toward the grown up I don't know. Is it like sexually explicit or one? I didn't listen to it. Now just telling rap not just an occasional bomb or something I. Got I. Don't I. don't care. You know those sort of She's Salads Dork, blue like that. USA Today teachers penalized if they opt out broken contracts can bring fines and licence loss. This is on the conversation we've been having for quite a while in the whole country has been about Why do you have to go to work if you have a job at a hardware store or grocery store but if he teach kids can just not go back. That's not essential businesses who ninety nine point seven percent British kids are back in school talking about the school board meeting in Phoenix Parent after parent got up to speak letting the tensions of the year spill into the auditorium and the coming school year. On whether or not they're gonNA allow kids back in school one actually a teacher himself, a physical education teacher stood up and said. I know a registered nurse who is a cancer survivor and didn't miss a day a work. Why are other teachers saying they're willing to go back to school. I'll see you on the seventeenth if you care about your profession in the audience exploded and raucous applause. Wow. That's mostly parents and kids. Kids going up to speak to I hope they let me go back to normal school in person said wonder when kindergartner got the kindergarten kids in particular breaks my heart. Oh that's a once in a lifetime experience kindergarten. And Oh and and everything you're learning about making friends and being away from home for the first time ever and just all Oh Geez. It's just heartbreaking. My sister have to be a kindergarten teacher and they are trying to You know build bricks without Straw to quote the good book I mean they're attempting the near impossible just trying to do as much good as as can be done we're gonNA. Look back on this I hope I live long enough to to you know to read about it. We're going to look back on the spirit of shutting down schools and businesses. Wondering. How that generation went? That's how did you all allow that to happen? How'd Y'all just roll over and say, okay sure. Yeah. How did that happen and when I just saw Kate Brown, the Looney Tunes Governor of Oregon joined Gavin Newsom in continuing their emergency powers for a few more months How did you let them say it's still an emergency when it was months in and and you'd figuring out how to operate safely or mostly safely what people say, no, it's not an emergency. Well, they did they are. They're lawsuits going on, but they're in school in Great Britain. Yeah. Yeah. Almost almost one hundred percent. Thunder low wizardry stuff yeah. They have regular schools there. For muggles. And Getty.

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