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Hour 2: Nets a Threat to the  Lakers?

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Hour 2: Nets a Threat to the Lakers?

"The max kellerman. Show the podcast. La breaking news with the rams are gonna get into that the second the yet eight seven seven six dallas porzingas looked all this talk about the net and out of the lakers gonna react. How dangerous the dallas mavericks. We're going to be phoenix like the way. Your teams looking phoenix. Those are by two thieves. I got my eye on all this talk about the nets today for obvious. reason james. Our our the lakers gonna react. Dallas and phoenix or not playing games. Anyway the max kellerman shows presented by progressive insurance. Join me the goodyear hotline the nets are acquiring james harden for the rockets the whole trade is hardened goes to the nets the rockets get a package including the depot. They got the net sent them charissa avert the rockets turned around and took care sliver and a second round pick and turned him into the depot. I'm not sure i would have done that. I might have stayed with vert but all the depot people forget was not long ago the best player on a dangerous playoff team all the depots quite good and he's still recovering really getting back to what he was from that injury do squad but if and when he does get back to what he was all right now they have to recovering from injury guys in john. Wall the depot. Who if they get back. That's a hell of a back anyway. The rockets get older depot ultimately and four first round picks from the nets. And and they're all unprotected like the nets stink and twenty twenty six. if they're drafting. I guess who gets that. Pick the rockets and the rockets get four unprotected first round swaps. That's a hell of dante. Exum and kirk caracas. Whatever his name is whatever who cares. There's not much but excellent was a big deal in the draft. You know from australia. What five years ago. Whatever it was he hasn't turned out to be a very good player. But four unprotected. I and four unprotected first. Round swaps and ola depot is a hall for a guy who forced his way out of town. The nets get james harden by the cleveland. Winds up with jared allen who is a good player and they have a lot of big now. You know. I'm thinking they were the team that signed mcgee in the off season. I'm thinking now. If you have jared allen maybe you wanna deal val mcgee and guests who needs some help. Defensively the nets. The andre jordan nate enough deondraye jordan. Devel- mcgee back there. Okay now you're starting to do something with some size some rebounding ability some shot blocking ability because the nets unguardable offensively. If they come together. There's only one basketball. I get it. James harden's is the guy everyone's gonna think of kyrie irving it's james harden well harden is the number two option. James kyrie's number three option understand. Katie don't need the ball katie. Can score in the flow of the game gives thirty five. He's an unselfish player. He's like the perfect complementary piece who would make any team in the history of basketball better. There's no one. Katie can't play next to cairo. Yes he's the number three option now but cairo has been a number two option before on. Lebron james demon played off ball at times was james. Harden played off ball with chris and russell westbrook at times but really monopolized the ball. Harden is the guy who's value is most wrapped up in his usage. He's remarkable in the sense that no matter how much you use them no matter how many shots he takes no matter the level of difficulty. They seem to go in at the same rate whatever. It is eight percent from the lions thirty seven percent from three. You don't take any mid range shots. Here's the thing kyrie's a better shooter from three and from the line he doesn't have to be used. Allies hitting forty forty two percent from three whatever is ninety percent from the line. Whatever it's going to be a better pure shooter. James harden kerry also got better handles in harden career also as championship experience. If we can get his head together. How do you defend this team. The greatest scorer of all time is michael jordan and you have to adjust for their era the second greatest scorer of all time of the non biggs of the guys who can go get their own shots was kobe. Bryant katie's more efficient. i get it. And he's in the conversation. If it's jordan one at two of all time of wing players number two is either kobe or k. d. james harden in the top. Five or six. You have to top five scorers of all time wing played. A wing played guys. Get the rolled shot scores of all time. And here's the thing k. D. james harden and kyrie if they can figure this thing out there's only one ball we're not worried about katie. What about hardening kyrie. All do the following. Shoot the lights out from three are great free throw shooters and can in the paint above or below the rim depending on who we're talking about they can also pass the ball. The question is will harden have the willingness to do it. I don't mean it's a shot clock expiring you get rid of it because you can't get your own shot. I mean a real hockey assists even same with kyri will will hardening kyrenia. Katie's selfish well. The other two guys be if they are. Don't forget joe harris. It's not like the only thing. Joe harris can do is shoot but like he's one of those players i think of like klay thompson is the ultimate example. Clay could do a lot of things very good defender but and he can even put the ball on the floor. But that's not really what you want. Klay doing clay is the best shooter of all. The guys who do think more things than just shoot right allan houston once upon a time like that was that for the knicks. Not a great defender. But he wasn't trent tucker back in the day he could actually shoot and do other things. Joe harris can do other things but understand. He shoots better than k. D. harden and kyrie. How do you defend the team. They can all shoot from the outside they can shoot free throws most of them can pass and when they want to defend but can they get along eighty eight say. Espn dan and austin. You're on the max kellerman show. Espn radio ajax. I just wanna say. I don't think we're ever going to see this big three or kyrie and james harden sharing the court in brooklyn. I think whatever's going on between kyrie and the nets organization precipitated. This trade and that the nets organization would agree with my take that The two players are incompatible not just for xs and os but their personalities and the. I thought that originally dan. I thought that originally like this is not a good idea. And i said don't trade for harden but that was before the dinwiddie injury the dinwiddie injury meant. They were one of the strengths with depth. In terms of top flight players. They were deep in terms of very good players. Didn't what he's a better than average starter as was levert. Jared allen's good. You know they had a lot of those guys. Plus they had k. d. and kyrie but once you lose dinwiddie you need another guy who can create off the dribble and you need that guy to be a lot better than dinwiddie because now you have less stuff and at that point i understand the harden trade. It's not ideal but you still want to compete for a championship. You've got to bring in a big gun. And that's james harden georgia new jersey on the max kellerman show. Espn radio are you doing. I was just the they're going to score points but no size. I didn't stop. Anthony davis when championship come are they gonna get rebounds. How's it going to stop officer boards. I don't see how that's going to happen. And so all of his good. They're going to score points in the regular season but when the championship comes and everything tightens up. They got nobody inside the stop. Anybody i think that's a very good point. But i don't think the nets are done making deals in other words when you look at what they got back. Four unprotected first round swaps. Four unprotected first round picks but we're not expecting the picks and twenty twenty two to be great because the nets will be very good so maybe you use some of that draft capital to bring in a player to help you on defense. I mentioned i mentioned the val mcgee's of the world right but yes you're right. it's presently constructed. You're right defensively. it's a problem. Who's going to grab rebounds. The nets have enough tradable commodities now assets to fine tune the roster and get what they need before the trade deadline and l. a. are on the max kellerman show. Espn radio imacs check. Hear me i gotcha max. Hey so i have one simple point I haven't heard yet for all the people who think that the nets are going to be a chemistry disaster 'cause they act like getting harden was just a random idea that they haven't thought into but here's my point tyree and harden are both professional basketball players and i'm sure they're fully aware of similar styles. There's no way that they didn't talk to each other to come to some kind of agreement before they were going to join forces that may be. You're sure that may be but even if they didn't let me say a couple of things number one if kyrie in fact is not gonna play basketball this year. You need it even more after the dinwiddie trade because now you don't have another guy to create off the dribble when dinwiddie goes down and if kyrie is not there any either now you really need a great player in the back court so the hardened trades even more important there and in terms of whether they discussed it or i have the best laid plans of mice and men like it may not work anyway right but i would think hard in particular is extremely motivated to make this work extremely motivated and remember hardens to hedge against well first of all is you bring them in because you lost dinwiddie but also the hedge against maybe kyrenia playing basketball this year for personal issues or whatever else. If that's the case then you wanna make sure harden has a lot at stake and he does. How's it gonna look hardened goes joins us team and it falls apart. Say all right james. You're a great scorer. Sure you can shoot threes and shoot free throws but can you. Can you win with anyone who you need. I you are on that when you were all puppies. Katie and westbrook in a bucket team. Then you got you wound up getting by the way. He played poorly in the playoffs. As a six man you wind up getting dealt then you play under your standards almost every year in the playoffs with the rockets. And i you want dwight howard. It doesn't work out. And then you want. Chris paul or they bring chris paul you want him gone and now you ask for westbrook they give you your boy and after one year. You're like both parties are like well. Let me be very clear. We're still boys. Just wanna play together. What is it gonna take. Okay now. here's k. D. and kyrie can you. Can you win with anyone. No harden not only has to disprove the idea that he can't shoot under pressure which he hasn't been able to do for the most part but also that he can't play well with others in other words. He's not a championship player. Harden has a lot at stake and a lot of motivation to make this work with or without kyrie now. predicting kyrie's future is something else. I hope kyrie's okay. I hope he's got. I hope this whatever issues. He's having personally him his family anything. I hope everyone's all right. And i hope he has his head screwed on straight charles in new jersey on the max kellerman show espn radio. Good afternoon max. Issue is the defense who's gonna be the rim protector jordan's washed up. Who's gonna stop. It'd be well listen. I know one stopping and be. But i told you i told you earlier. That the the issue with the nets is there so much draft capital at this point that they'll be able to swing a deal to fine tune the roster by the deadline. I'll even tell you what they'll use if you're the nets and you have four. First unprotected first rounders four unprotected swaps like if they have a better draft position than you you can just swap with them. if that's the case then the draft picks you're gonna use are the ones coming right up while you're going to be good while and they have one of milwaukee's picks to wolman. Walkie is good so the twenty twenty two picks can be used to get good stuff to fine tune the roster if they need defense watch. These guys play together. What do you need the andre jordan. Need some help. we need something else with you. Stretch for whatever it. Is you probably going to be able to get it. And still hold. Onto the valuable draft picks which are those picks unprotected picks and swaps in the years. Two thousand twenty four but especially twenty twenty six and twenty twenty seven k. D. weighed in on the hardened deal really didn't want to say much about it. You know how he kind of plays the media. I'm not gonna give you much. You asked me. You know. I'm just going to give you one word answers. Here's kyw at the nets presser. After the harden deal was announced losing teammates in in charissa jared torian. But also welcome in you know. T- maiden james even finalized. We'll talk about it and another time. I know you don't want to get into things until they are official but looking pass looking into the past. What was it like to play with james. What do you remember about him as a teammate. Because you have played together. Yeah yeah it was fun. He's just going to give you the one word answer by the way this was a team. That's really good day. One of the season losing dinwiddie was a big problem. Like when you think about the team at the beginning of the season. I had preferred that to this when it was and they were using leverett off the bench. I disagree. I ll avert should have been starting and dinwiddie. Should've come off the bench. Kyri dinwiddie ll avert. Joe harris jared allen. Kevin durant hits. Just keep coming now. What he's out for the season he's gone goodbye. Charissa verts been traded gun goodbye. Jared allen's gone in the trade goodbye. That's has your good players. I mean it's not your any of your very best players but it's half your good once and you got james harden coming back and there may be chemistry issues. We'll see celtics. Were in on the talks says danny ainge quote. We had numerous talks but the price wasn't really changing said on a radio interview on thursday. The price is really high for us and it was just something we really didn't want to do. I get the nets also thinking. Don't let this brother go to philadelphia without philly. Giving up ben simmons o or even if they gave up ben simmons in the short term. That's a problem but you know what. After the first game of the season i looked at the nets and thought phillies. Shouldn't trade benson's for james harden. They shouldn't do it because they're going to need someone to defend k. d. now no one can do one on one but if everyone in basketball who gets real minutes because they can play on the other end of the court then senators your best bet. He's a great defender and he's six foot ted prio. La you're on the max kellerman show espn radio. But i just wanted to say. I know all these guys. I'm listening to him. Calling in with their detailed explanations for uae. This why because i remember when pearl game for the bullets and they needed three basketball. 'cause 'cause walt clyde frazier was next jerry west at that time. 'cause the big old but but but i know that but but you need people forget about candidacy and james ward wa winemakers in tape down all over the place. Cut me through. You took west fraser. James you sometime as you can chat the nights when i want to say about. The mets mac is that it could be a small thing like maybe cadre found out that was coming and he was gonna make ten dollars more per week. Then he's making on his day jay. It could be something small like that well as usual. I'm not sure what primoz talking about. But like listening to him. Talk about primo. The way talks. I like it. He just blessed free association. Chains brought up half the nba earl. The pearl in tampa. You're on the max richaud. Espn radio lewis in tampa. I see i see the little on. Espn plus i see the voice stuff moving the little lino meter moving as louis talking. But there's no one there all right you see them not playing around with the calls today. Roj lot of people wanna talk about this. They're gonna get to talk about it. It'd be ready come out and rapid fire coming. I'm not just an ex. Max not just in the last. You gotta be ready kids. I know as a kid. When i listened to sports talk radio when something big happening command. Let me get in there. Everyone wants to get in there me. Tell you something bunch of misconceptions for me to clear up about this. Including who's under the most pressure kyri or james harden. That's a trick question. I'm going to give you the real answer coming up. Also this is the first time in the history of basketball. That you've had something. I'm going to tell you about coming up a la breaking injury news with the rams but just to get you to listen. I'm not gonna tell you. If it's jared goff or aaron donald that i'm referring to we want the best of both worlds. We want a hybrid a smarter. Hybrid cloud approach with ibm helps banks personalized experiences with watson. Well helping keep data secure. The world is going hybrid with ibm. Visit ibm dot com slash cloud. We want the best of both worlds. We want a hybrid a smarter hybrid cloud approach with. Ibm helps retailers. Manage supply chains with watson. Ai while predicting demands with ease the world is going hybrid with ibm visit ibm dot com slash cloud. Max the podcast. Aaron rodgers to me is the mvp. This season is the best season. he's ever hat idle gender. Like that doesn't have a space in my brain. Jared goff is the most important player in the nfc playoffs. Any credibly. Difficult challenge for green bay. Yes breaking news that. it's in the previous segment. Unfortunately we don't live in a world where you could have something in your pocket like a. That's a phone and a computer in a camera. You can just look up on some search engine. What the news and immediately get all the information you had to wait through that entire commercial break. And it's not like you listened to the sportscenter update because i told you not to just waiting to hear it from me so here. It is now to to end the suspense john. Wolford has been declared out late bortles because of his neck memories. Sustain that injury. And that's why gough came in and lead them to victory. It'll be blake bortles backing up. Goff on the frozen tundra of green bay. Gafa perioda mostly healthy after being thrust into duty against the seahawks but the rams mid week Well roger wrote something. Here that makes no sense in english and raj world might producer raj. This may make some sense here. I'll read what rogers wrote. But the rams midweek needle thread actually seem true instead of merely coach. Speak to justify sitting goth in seattle colon. He was healthy enough now. He's changing as now. He's editing as i'm saying he was healthy enough to back up but not quite ready to start with another. Yes raj raj. We're sending you to remedial english class right after this show. I don't know what the words words sentences have meaning based on the order of words and the actual meaning of sure you understand anyway. Let's hear from donald them all career just anything and they're really at a real injury got way. See out least but this. Is this the first one. I'm good thing rather a great job of trust the process with them before he can't be on a routine they want me to do on. Just be cautious be smart. No china twitter Come game day radio address process a business anyway. Room still feel a strong goes up. It will aaron. Donald expects to be a full go when the team faces the packers on saturday. And it's a good thing for the rams because golf he alleged a win with the bad thumb against a good team in seattle. great defense. but you ain't gonna beat the packers in a shootout. You're going to beat the packers. If the defense shows up an arid donald you have to devote so many resources on your offensive line to aaron donald that it makes other guys around him better. Jalen ramsey is a taller jalen ramsey. You now few quarterbacks in the history of football were genuine shutdown corners. Jalen ramsey played so well this year. I felt sorry for number one receivers at times and in this day and age. Everything favors the receiver. Everything all the rules are there. And it's it's harder to play defense an offense anyway. All the rules are there to favor. The receivers and i feel sorry for number one's going up against ramsey and yet it's donald who's the most important defensive player and he's going to have to be if not at his best. He's going to have to be great. Because aaron rodgers at the age of thirty seven through for forty eight touchdowns this season forty three hundred yards. Whatever is not a gaudy number forty three hundred yards in this day and age but forty eight. Td's a lot of people still wanna talk round ball right now. What's going on lebron. Ad in a well oiled machine is paul. Pierce said earlier in the show. Lebron ad are favored to win the whole thing and a lot of people don't like the fit but sometimes we are over thinking it the reason i think there's the most pressure on durant right now not hard. Not on kyrie but on k. D. is people kid. He's already won a championship. Stop that k. d. Joined seventy three win team a seventy three win team that came one possession away from winning the championship the previous year. Any mvp caliber player. Anyone even an all star caliber players simply added to a seventy three win. Team makes it impossible to beat that team. Kate don't get credit for me for winning championships with the warriors. It's ridiculous ridiculous. It'd be like what team came up just short of a championship. You know if if the knicks came up. Just short of beating the rockets and the next year michael jordan joined the knicks. Would we be like. Oh see that he unbelievable. But it's worse than that even because it was a seventy three win team. It's not just a powerhouse team that seemed to get to the finals. They were considered. Maybe the best team ever. They're going to replace the seventy two win. Bowls durant joined that team so stop it. Then he'd made a very gutsy decision. He joined the brooklyn nets. he said. watch this. I'm going to start from scratch and lead a team to a championship. Okay k. d. people aren't gonna remember the fit that this that they're going to know you had james harden and kyrie irving. Did you win a championship by the way did you just get there even. Did you get their leo in new york city. You're on the max kellerman show espn radio. Hey how you doing max I have to agree with you. I think this year we're going to see a net lakers final thought from the beginning of the season before James harden came. I was all for the nets fade. I gotta say. I see a lot of mixed personalities and my confidence has gone down. I know a lot of netspend since i live in new york city. Everyone hurt by the news. If i'm being honest with you 'cause. I saw a ticket to the championship. I have to say though i ha. I am optimistic. Because i know if anyone can handle it i think it's gonna be steve nash. She's a players coach. I think d'antoni has been able to weather the storm and used to the best he can and amari stoudamire being a player development coach. I just think they're going to be able to get it together. I know there's a lot of talk about wears korea and kyrie is gonna come back and like wherever he is. I think it's like good. Like let them handle what he has to handle. What is what's your name. Who am i talking to leo. Leo has to take a breath deep breath. I've been there before. Leo when i was a kid i used to call sports. Talk aren't russ junior talking sports. Your heart beat fast as you're waiting then you actually get through. Leo's out of breath. He was very nervous. Made some good points. I wanna take another quick one roj. I saw caller. I wanted to get to right now. And that is griffin in texas with a very interesting point mr kelly mean i got. I got the ring. It's here all gotta do kyrie's head case he's a mess and it's not worth the trouble at the end of the day. You need the exact opposite of him. The answers been right in front of us since two thousand twelve. You need somebody that's gonna put their head down and get buckets. No matter what their life on the line that's russell westbrook trade one for one and run it back. You have the best ending in sports history if they beat the lakers in the finals like that. Well what i like is you're talking about getting the band back together. It would be the silman of the okay see potential. But in brooklyn an franchise did or a city that didn't have a team when westbrook to rant and harden. We're all playing together. You know ten years. You mentioned like years lay a decade later. They're all in brooklyn and they finally win a championship. It be amazing. But i disagree. I think if kyrie his head screwed on straight that big differences kyri while you're right westbrook's all effort all the time. I love westbrook baci rican. Shoot it westbrook. Can't and that's what makes this team right now. Think of the starting five james harden's e one of the great scorers of all time and can shoot two three and free throws like nobody's business kyrie's and even better three point shooter and free throw shooter. Then james harden kevin durant can do that stuff at least as well as either one of those who may be better and he's seven feet tall. None of them are the best shooter in the starting lineup. That is clearly joe harris on guard. -able if they can make this if they can get along. It's impossible to defend them. Do you own or rent your home. Sure you do. And i bet it can be hard work you know. It's easy bundling policies with geico. Geico it easy to bundle your homeowner's or renter's insurance along with your auto policy it's a good thing too because you already have so much to do around your home. Go to geico dot com quote and see how much you could save. Its gyco easy visit. Geico dot com today. That's geico dot com. That's dan once white once last thing. Want running with elite. Qb's kenneth on clutch td's lacrosse novus. Step behind the need to watch the clock. Because you want to push bruce lee showing no mercy. Fast fastow got the crew on deck. Gee do no one else goes deeper the espn app download. Now max the podcast. You heard i ache. Good to hear your voice filing out. You're throwing down metra's last week. I'm watching the mandalorian with my three daughters ages. Twelve nine and almost six and the twelve year old especially. I brought her up on. Starwars played all the movies talked about the teams involved and everything and by the way. For all the flack george lucas. For episodes one two and three boy that shows you how a republic becomes an empire. Don't it anyway. So i'm watching this. And there's a bunch of stuff that like so many cool things. I don't want to give you a spoiler here but you know the mandalorian julia western set in outer space. And but you know you got some great characters making appearances and cameos and and re appearances in in in this thing and it just got me thinking to start my star wars action figures when i was a kid action figures toys or the one part of the economy right like if you think about toys maybe soda and candy. Basically price hasn't changed much. And when you're a kid. When i was a kid anyway. That's the only thing that i cared about. Five six years old seven eight years old. You want toys soda and candy. Their prices may be doubled in forty years when the prices of other things has got up. Ten and twenty times. So my mother's takes tomase in new york to buy toys. That's the that's the budget macy's maze and we can get a five dollar stores action figure whatever it was late seventies early eighties and one year for my birthday. Maybe it was a hanukkah thing or whatever but it was. I could get like a big president and wanted the millennium falcon millennium falcon. Had just come out and it was got tomase and we looked at the millennium falcon had all the compartments. The star wars action figures fit in. Just right han solo chewbacca. You know who knows there are no rules. Maybe even throw boba fett in there. Who knows do whatever. I want once you buy the toys you don't have to follow the script anyway. So mother look at the price of the millennium falcon. I want to say it was like fifty bucks for media thirty five but whatever it was too much too much thirty. Five dollars from romania fund. Got here you know all right. So what can i. What can i spent twenty dollars. My can't even get a tie. Fighter an excellent fighter for twenty bucks. I'm gonna twenty bucks. So i start looking around. May's toy store in one spaceship i could get. I didn't know if i could get my star. Wars action figures in there. But i could afford it. Problem was it wasn't a star wars ship. It was a two thousand one space odyssey ship with little orange figures that fit inside but i get rid of the orange figures and try to jam. Few stalwarts action figures in there. And pretend it was a star wars spaceship. Never seen something so sorry c. Three po with a little arm sticking out of the front of the ship because it can't fit cheap parents this cold blooded man. What about your friends. What would your friends get on. They had them latium. Come oh go. to france. houses they'd have to have x wing fighters in high fighters fred's he. My friend could broke. Parents had all kinds of spaceships figured out a way to get their kid. I remember one hannukah birthday. I got a you know the imperial walkers they were so fresh like around eighty one the set in the second grade. Maybe everyone wanted to imperial walker. Mother opened the president. Thanks i got the president over the president and it was the scene from the imperial walker like little plastic snow with like a little antenna or something. And if you were a little spots where you could place. The action figures that it would go into their foot you know. They had little circle cut out of their foot. So they'd stand there but no imperial walker. Can't even i love you. Know watching star wars stuff now. Espn dizzy plus but very angry parents. Every time i gonna hit the divisional playoffs tomorrow. Max kellerman show espn radio. Thanks for listening to the max kellerman show make sure you subscribe rate and review. You can hear the show lot weekdays at two pm eastern on. Espn radio espn news. Or wherever you stream your audience.

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Hour 2: Chris Haynes joins

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Others are not, but I'm going to get him to elaborate extensively on what he alternately had to report. Chris haines? My brother is on the line with me right now. What's up, man? Rene? We're going all the first one. I quit. I question. The first question do you have on speakers in a suit? What did you finally go buy some tubes? The which what is it Chris? I just wanna make sure I just wanna make sure. I I've taking your advice since you've got on my white socks that I was wearing with damn near heavy suit that I have. That's I upgraded. I'll upgrade. Okay. So you've upgraded that you want Seuss out because you know, me, you know, I'll take you shopping. You know, how God above grade. I think you'll be impressed. All right. All right. I you know, I'm gonna be looking at. I look I wanna see you too. But but Chris, obviously, obviously man you've been oh, you always doing a great job covering the NBA. And obviously you just wrote something about Kevin Durant of ya'll. And you were talking about how Kevin Durant. Some people have fearing. He's got one foot out the door just elaborate and tell everybody what you report it. Well, I think even the people from the outside looking in and see the Kevin Durant hasn't been in in a good mood pretty much most of the season. And I, and I think a lot of it stems from well, I know for sure is from that initial spat with Draymond green earlier in the season. And so, you know, the people within the war is just looking at it. This position is by language, you know, he's leaving by himself leaving leaving arena. He's kind of being, you know, solo in that regard. And and you know, what I what I wrote was that, you know, there are people within organizations who do feel like, you know. Kevin Durant has one foot out the door. And there's others, you know, who are optimistic and they just feel like this is just the standard of noises of rigorous eighty two game season. And so he the the organization for a better word. You know, there's some paranoia going on as far as how you know what they think? Kevin Durant is go. Gonna do this free agency. And it's it's world up. You know, some people the wrong way. But Kevin Durant has this is his decision making. He doesn't own anybody. A theme until the summer crusades, y'all sports right here with Steven A, ESPN radio ESPN is with that being said knowing Kevin Durant the way that you do and knowing the warriors the way that you do which include Draymond green when they had that spat right here in LA at the Staples Center going up against the Los Angeles Clippers if I remember correctly how much of a lingering effect. Do you Chris knowing them the way that you do how much of a lingering effect? Do you believe it's had on? Kevin durant? The relationship with Draymond green. And all of obviously, his willingness to stay go to state. I only ask that because I was just in Philadelphia with them last Saturday. They seem to begin long pretty fun to me talk to me about that. I think those two are fine. I I really do think those two that they're okay. You know, you see them, you know. Allocco they have a locker. I think there's two locker stall that separates them from for the most part. There's nobody really sitting there a lot of times there's those two and you see them talking in the gays, and so I think those to have repaired it as much as they can repair. Now the way that go to state handle that, you know, I don't know if dre bond is fully as fully accepted the way that was handled as far as you know, you see guys have spat with each other on teams before, and you know, and you just pick that never let it go but organization decides to suspends remind for game so in that regard, I can see how that could could create some criticism issue that's still linger. And you know, we we all say that, you know, who's dream on who's hired as agent, you know, coming up here. So, you know, look, I think for those that from that standpoint from those too and just pretend those two I think they're fine. But I think there's other issues. That that might be on on their laws and soon worked for those. That may not understand Chris highlight. What those other issues may be you the reigning two time NBA champion. You've you the reigning two time NBA finals and VP you Gaza still universally recognized as the prohibitive favorite assuming that they are true today. What they say their priorities are that they're going to keep Klay Thompson. They're gonna make sure they take care of him. There's no way in hell. They're losing him to the Lakers or anybody else you'd have the greatest shooting back court in history as your teammates. What would be the issue in that that would make Kevin Durant? Want to leave a situation like the Golden State Warriors? Well, will you look at it, Stephen? And he's been the finals he's been the finals MVP back to back years. And then you still have people who are criticizing him for the decision to join even though he was the one I do think without him. I I I don't think the war is win. I chance to win it last year. But he put them over the top. And he's still not truly appreciated for the player that he is. And so, you know, you think about those issues that could come up. Well, we're talking about we're talking about Kevin Durant. We're talking about twenty times we're talking about jury bonds potential extension and also believe, you know, could be in a free agent in the summer of two thousand twenty. There are a lot of things that are you know, that on the horizon at the same time with the fact that Golden State needs all these players in uniform born into Mexico with that. Arena. There'd be building in San Francisco. So, you know, look they have to win, and, you know, Kevin Durant. You know, he he said it time and time again, he's a gif three cat, some people, call them, sensitive or whatever. But Golden State has to win. They have they have to win. And I think Kevin Durant half the filled out three. She aced with the organization in order for them to have a good summer this year with their free agency. So it's going to be I think it's gonna be over quickly as well as go to state does over the summer. But man, we just don't know what it is. I can't say he's leaning one way or the other is just what it is right now. Chris sports right here with Steven ESPN radio. ESPN news. We're talking about Kevin Durant. Golden State Warriors. His story on Yahoo about how Kevin Durant has one foot in and out the door courting to folks, some folks within the warriors organization, not all, but some having said all of that, Chris let me ask you this question because you watch Kevin Durant. You. Them. You've watched him appear to be a bit sensitive, particularly when talking about the media. We all saw him call out one do right on national television. You give a damper. Okay. We got all that my attitude is this if you're that way planning Golden State, how would you be New York? Wouldn't that be night? Man. I don't know if I don't know if any human being could take it. I just don't know, Chris, what do you say to that? Yeah. I mean, look, I, you know, the the bay area media, you know, they're not. They're not relentless by by any standards. You know, so, you know, Kevin Durant at times, he has gone on defensive, and, you know, this this oppressor of the last person you had, you know, where you know, seem her have the same. You know that they they the team plays with joy when they're playing with joy. That's when they're at their best. You know, he always says that that's the mantra of years, and then, you know, then last game per se they didn't play with anger, and then Kevin Durant was asked about the anger part. And Kevin Durant. Knowing knowing Steve Kerr's macho say hold on. I thought we supposed to blame with joy now with anchor, man. I don't I don't agree with that. That was a clear shot that was a close out. There was no other way to look at it. And so, you know, he gets in those most. But you know, I've spoken to them since. And you know, he's just believes that what he does on the court so validate everything that's his main thing. He's a Hooper. He's a basketball player. He's not a politician. He's not gonna go up there and say the pollution correcting, you know, he feels like. He's gonna come out and say, and you feel like something that he says is, you know, get scrutinized or gets put out there in a way that's negative, you know, negative to the team. And you know, I have to tell them sometimes even I'm like, bam. You know, if you if you eat a bunch of white castle and pass gas, you know, what I mean, people people say you take a bath. Every day. I learned from the current. Chris. Stove online these stomach say that many times Chris. Hey, see and be a in Santa right here was he is a radio. Here's this absolute truth. Your parents get us. Tell you. Now, that's what they do. All thought. Komo now, you know, what the truth is, absolutely true. But it's interesting. We talk about that Chris. Because now we're looking at Kevin Durant. We're looking at Kharian again, I'm talking to you about Kevin Durant. I'm talking to you about the wars. But you covered the entire NBA. You've seen these guys you see kyri appear bit sensitive. Call Charles Barkley just went off about him talking about how Karwi looks miserable. You got. Kevin durant? He's going off about some things. How much you know, Kawai Linnet his persona, and how people don't think he's gonna come to the Lakers because he don't want all of that drama. When you look at these marquee names that scheduled to be available in free agency. I usually thought it was about the city that team the game. Now, I'm looking about the media having a profound impact because these dues just ain't going to deal with all of that. What do you say about that? I think when you when you when you're thinking about the top that's going to be available. I recall why. Kevin durant? You know, break down the ranting kuwa- for the most part they've been linked to the Knicks. We Durant and quad. If they're not going to stay with their teams that leads to mix and co co co co. Kyri? I'm sorry has been you know, Lakers have been onboard with abroad angle, you know. But for the most part, we we think they stand with their team or going to the Knicks go on for the most part, it's been linked to the clips, and and, you know, possibly stand with Toronto, you know, that you got Jimmy Butler out there, you know, it's fairly. There's Brooklyn there's the clippers. And so there's not really a lot of those top free agents who have a direct link to the Los Angeles Lakers. And so I I don't I wouldn't say necessarily because of the media. I really do think it's about basketball fit, and and where they they wanna feel most comfortable at and I think I don't think necessarily it's the me like, I think there's a whole I think there's too much hoopla about the local media, and there can hydrate and how aggressive they are. I think more. So it's about social media, you know, social media, and how players looking at that, and allowing that to dictate allowing that to dictate they'll once feeling. That you notice a lot like you you've been radio yet radio for years before I got into this field used to be a radio producer. And I found that when I was a producer the people who were call in. It was mostly negative people. Like, it was like a mostly negative people who call in on the radio show and have something to say. And so I kind of equate that to social media, and when people are social media, that's negative people. Probably envy your position every your profession, and they're going to spout out and say something negative trying to bring you down. And then if and if you're basing what's the public perception is off the social media. That's not the absolute truth because those same people who are kill your social media. Criticized you cuss, you out talking about your momma when they see Stephen nail when they see coming out there in person, they asked before autograph? That's right. So I think. Picture exactly. Maybe your phone number. Stephen. They probably they'll never get that. They'll never get that. I never get that. Not even if they offered me. So why not happen? What I'm saying? I know what you said let me ask you this though when you look at the situation here in LA because that's where I'm at right now. I never thought it would be this bad, man. I mean, they were rolling until LeBron guy her true. But now you hear so much stuff going on with the loss Angeles Lakers. One minute is LeBron another minute. It's the play another minute is Luke Walton another minute. It's Magic Johnson right now covering the NBA. What's the scuttlebutt about these Lakers? What is what are people saying the nationwide about the right now? They point out that roster. And obviously look there was a bunch there. There's blame to be had all around. This roster was not constructed properly period. End the discussion, and I get why they wanted to add a lot of play makers alongside LeBron James. I felt that he hasn't had a luxury of in previous years, but it just didn't work out. And you know, they were when they were they were one of the top four teams in the conference before the bronze ains went down, and you know, injuries depleted them. And, you know, look new Walton, and you know, I covered LeBron in Cleveland that year that he came back and Luke Walton I quit his situation that similar to David black black. That was the team he signed up the coast you signed to coach a team that was sitting around young guys and Kyrie Irving Dion waiters. Attrition. Thompson. All of a sudden the best player comes on board. And so walk wasn't putting in the right situation to succeed. And you know, there's there's blame all around Stephen a live. You know the way to eight. ABC situation was handled. You know, I personally do think like LeBron trying to open up the floodgates. You know, just you know, he he said by him saying, you know, his his voice rings ring. Supreme you know, I'm saying something, but that kinda started everything with, you know, saying he wanted to play alongside eighty even though there's a lot of players who say they wanna play with such and such, you know, the broader the different cats that kind of started the whole thing the way that trade them, I went I it just messed everything you've ever seen. But I escalate s Chris what I'm asking is how much do you think this is going to negatively influence the Lakers ability to get a free agent to summer or they're gonna find themselves having to wait hope and pray that Anthony Davis ultimately erupts? I I don't think this situation or this year's going negatively impact what they get the summer. Because like I said, I think those guys not mentioned already. They already have other teams of as primary destinations. Before they get. So like, so I don't think you know. I just don't think there was never a player out there that we directly linked to the Lakers. You know? I it, you know, it's just wasn't out there this summer. And that's why I'm saying I don't think this season affects that I think the Lakers really have to hope and pray that think land eighty as in bring on the other chips from there because I really do think as a right now as what I'm here right now. I just think those other free as big freeze. I've mentioned I just think there's other teams that's headed like right now Chris aims right here was Steven ESPN radio. ESPN news, go back to the warriors. In terms of what Draymond green had to say. In defense of boogie cousins just a day ago. He was talking about because we were looking at boogie cousins who's got limited lateral movement. Can't really really defend it appears Boston certainly attacked them with fervor the other night and that blowout loss to the Celtics by the warriors. But Draymond green spoke up for his teammate. I said excuse me, we stink defensively we handle in our business. We're not doing what we're supposed to do. How do you know what he can do if we ain't doing what we're supposed to be doing? What did you make of Draymond comments in regards to boogie cousins defense on on that level? I like that you know, he he's he's he's the most leader team. You know, he's the one who's going to have a voice and has a president in his voice speaks volumes in and I like it. He's coming out and defensive DeMarcus cousins because they're they're all these teams are targeting DaMarcus. They're calling for that pick to get the markets on that switch and those teams are taking advantage of a man look to be honest to think that the Mark. I mean, first of all what he was healthy and all star form he wasn't the best in pick and roll covers. But you know, he's still trying to get his legs back. And so he's definitely not going to be up to form now. So I like what remind had to say he put it on him. He said, you know, he said, I'm not playing well defensively myself. And so I you know, he he kind of trying to show the low. That's what you're supposed to do. But you know, you just I think the warriors that's why they went out to Andrew bogut. Try to you know, get somebody who's familiar with the office somebody who they can plug in right away. Without we know limited practice time. And they'll just in case the markets isn't able to show this significant lows. In the postseason teams are going to compete attack like that they got Andrew bogut in there. Somebody who's the plan all season had a pretty good year. He's fresh. Did. They only play like thirty something games in Australia. Only I come in and plug me right away. But no that's gonna be something we need to look out for the markets. And how you prove the festival for sure. Do you see somebody beating the warriors in the Western Conference issue? I do not see when I look I I think I think right now even with you know, I I don't think there's drama over there right now. You know, I wrote about just how the roles reversed because Boston was going into that game. We'll go to state all real in. And you know, then we saw K D put on his post-game display. But look if go to state is healthy, you know, they're they're board right now. But if they're healthy, and and and just wrap revved up. I can see them sweeping the conference. I that includes Houston and okay for that, excuse anybody. I can see them sweeping the conference. I really do think that. If they're healthy. I think they'll be a look 'cause you know, this can be very well. This could very well be the end of a dynasty if things go disastrous for them and free agency. But I'm talking about clay and Katie. So you don't see that happening or do you? You don't see all die though. I don't see it happening. I don't see that happen. No. I don't. But you know, the possibility is there in I think these these players go look at this. And look at this as motivation to try to go out there, and and go out there, and and you know, assassinate the whoever's in their path. I don't see it happening. But I think there's going gonna be motivated just from the what if all right? Well, how do you explain that they lost by thirty three to Boston today by because it's March nobody really gives them. I played. They played really. Well, see. But I will you know, you'd better be real. With me way is to be real with me. Chris the quality get on outta here. Who do you have coming out of the east? Man. See one is the dicey want. It is ice for most of the year. Steven they are Boston, man. But I it's it's really hard for me to get on board that right now, they're so up and down. I now I'm gonna go with I'm gonna go with I love Milwaukee is doing I want to say that. I want them to come out my mouth right now. But I can't get it out right now. I don't feel that comfortable because they haven't taken steps yet to say that they're going to get straight to the finals. I'm going to go with Toronto. I'm looking at what's wrong. Gotta learn listen. I know you keep it real. But you gotta learn a follow my lead. Sometimes first of all I have no desire to go to Milwaukee. So I'm not apologizing. Secondly with Toronto I don't have global entry yet. I don't have global injury. So I'm not not not Toronto is lovely when you get there. But getting to. As a different kind of problem. I mean, I'm not ready to tell you what he even for us even thought the private jet. You worked for you. I mean, I'm just I'm just saying a little bit Russell talks via Russia. Globality? So I'll for Boston, man. I picked him into beginning. And I rooted for them, Chris. Hey, that's what I'm doing. Okay. Acting route and folk. Here. That's not if you if you ask who are move forward. To get to the five. Oh, damn. That's that's true. We'd be root for the league. For the heat night. We were over. We were over eating because that's what we would Chris. Here. We would be doing what we're stuck with these other cities. I wish I appreciate your broke doing a great job, man. Thank you. Oh my God. 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When a quarterback Colin Murray sprouted from under five ten in August over five ten in. February eyebrows were raised. I joked that maybe he spent forty eight hours in zero gravity chamber before coming to the combine and the eyes of some maybe it wasn't a joke. Quote. I think that his height was inflated an unnamed scout toll Dan Patrick on Tuesday. And Dan related the story on the Wednesday edition of his show. Maybe it's the tin foil hat theory. I just don't see it. If he refused to me measured at the pro day that will be telling the now you got somebody else. Trying to bring in the question column Murray's height. He lied, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, trying to tell you this kid. Trying to kick the kid down. Forty three hundred yards passing over one thousand yards rushing. Sixty nine percent of his passes completed all of this stuff going on. And these folks actually set up there and said, you know, what? There were less questions about the his character about the character of Baker Mayfield in his sensually can make it up. Just can't make it up. Vansh Alava Stephen they talked to me. Readies. How are you, sir? We're how'd you wanna know anything? They win the warriors win without Klay Thompson. Now, I think they'll need all their horses. But I think they'll have them and they'll run over anybody. But I think you definitely need your big three unique Klay Steph and Kevin Durant. I definitely believe that. Yeah. We don't seem to win without glade. Yep. Exactly plays. A big glazed glaze wanted arguably one of the top five shooters in NBA history. Man. He's a sniper. He is. Appreciate the call. Thank you, burn. You'll obvious even if it's up. I'm all right talk to me, man. My comment is about the Lakers. Also, a man I think I think there's gonna be off anybody to play with LeBron man. Like, it's it's the way that we put him on his pedestal. He don't he he's not like a regular player. Life. One went without saying when he came there with them young news, like this is a little little stuff like when they shoot a foul shot walking up, and you know, how they like give each other five without it's little stuff like that pro at hand going to be the mayor with nobody if he'll and get that to go. Well, my whole point is this, you know, at the end of the day, we're going to learn a lot about LeBron was on the four year deal with the Los Angeles. Lakers, we go learn a lot about LeBron if nobody wants to come and play in LA. I mean think about that. Laboratories, look, listen. That's what I said. It's possible. It's possible. I'm told. No. But they could be lying. They could be lying. I'm told. No. But they could be lying at the end of the day. Here's what it comes down to. Ula. Braun you have the Laker brand as your backdrop, a you can't get anybody to come in and play. I think that would be the ultimate indictment against him. That's my personal opinion. Brichet the call Quinn. You lava Stephen eight what's up. Quin? Are you there? Quinn. By coin. Daniel you live with Stephen go ahead. Dan, you, hey, what's going on man? I'm big fan. Even they big fan. I have a quick question about Mark Jackson as a potential coach first off. I will give them partial credit to the war. He says before they hired because of course, everybody tried to give him. But I was watching the game last night in the see how ticked off Mark Jackson was the scene Rondo sitting in a fan feet away from the first of the bond. Did it no being away from the being? But what do you think? Do you think that Mark Jackson will be perfect a perfect fit for Lakers next coach, I think he definitely be an upgrade? And I hate saying that because I liked Luke Walton. And I think Luke Walton was given a raw deal because of the roster does with so much you can expect him to do with this. But I definitely think that a Mark Jackson. I definitely think that something that will work out. But you gotta get talent. Gotta get him talent came. He had that little streaking. You know, it's just. I don't know. You know? That's what I'm saying. You know what? Listen, the splash brothers. In all likelihood, they'll stay together and Golden State. But wouldn't it be interesting? If Klay Thompson is willing to come to LA and Mark Jackson was his coach that'd be very interesting. I think that would be a formidable Hannam if the bond stays that together for one person. But you know, I just I mean a Laker fan. I'm a Kobe guy in I was kind of skeptical about LeBron coming. But you know, I think that he has the right intentions in trying to, you know, elevate the young guys, but not the right mixture right now, I got you. Appreciate the call. Thank you so much Bill. You live Stephen. They talked to me. Hey, steven. Hey, I just want to tell you that I've been a fan of your spirit for a very long time. And I really enjoy listening to you. I think that you are that that your takes on most things are very much on point all the time. I want to to start by saying that I'm forty two years old. I'm caucasian. I'm not. Going to get into my mixed race children. I'm not gonna get into, you know, the the minority women that I have been in love with because I know that I can't feel the things that you feel are the things that they feel, but I wanna tell you that you really upset me yesterday. When when you were talking about Cuyler Murray, and you were turning it into a a racial issue because I don't believe that. It was I think that there is certainly a story there that a guy who's projected to be the number one pick. But you you were coming across to me making it sound to me like we like we can't or somebody can't criticize or say these things about a black athlete. I'm wondering if the same things had been said less hear about Sam darnold, if you would have had the same reaction or the same the same thing. Well, first of all you don't need to want to. I'm right here. You asked I'll answer the question directly. But before I do that. I have to ask you a question. You said that you've been you know, I in. Involved with is soon that you're talking about black women. Correct. We out black women Hispanics. Marrying my. Old enough a second. I'm just I'm just using that to get to a point have there been times that you have disagreed with them because of the interpretation of something, and they will letting you know, this is the spec. Perspective that I'm coming from that, you just might not get your heart my own alright place, but you might not get it is that possible. Of course, of course. And that is what I'm gonna tell you that that has those relationships opened my eyes greatly to the idea that so I can see I can feel sympathy on. Listen, I'm not getting into our. I'm trying to use that as impetus to answer your question. That's all I'm trying to do. I'm not trying to get in your personal business. Listen to what I'm saying to you column Murray has accomplished what he accomplished you're talking about. I'm saying that it's not like somebody white can say something about this particular, black athletes. First of all, let me be very very clear. Most of the time I'm up here going off about actions on the point of black athletes. So let's keep that in mind number two. When you think about what was said about column Murray? What is my issue? My issue is is that he's answered every issue. That was brought to the table. He produced on the field. We don't need to go over those numbers has height was questioned his hand size was questioned his weight was questioned he addressed that. And then he goes to the NFL scouting. Combine and Charley Casserly comes out and says. Oh, my goodness speaks so emphatically as if it's a matter of fact about this man's character. His willingness to watch film, his willingness to be a leader extension. Where'd you hear that from Lincoln Riley spoke up he talked to us, and he positional coaches. Nope. He talked to us you showed up at the scouting Combi one day, and you decide to infanta infallibly and damn near enthusiastically dinner rate denigrate kid, who's a Heisman Trophy winner through for forty three hundred yards. Forty two touchdowns completed sixty nine percent of his passes. Then getting any trouble ran for thousand yards and not only did you do that. You mentioned Baker Mayfield as being seen in a brighter light. Character wise watching film being a leader than this guy. How may I ask you a question in response? I just answered you that question you'll have any response to what I just said. Well, I do but the responses in the question, okay possible that isn't it possible? That those things are true. Isn't it possible that he was bad on the board? The biggest problem that I have is not necessarily your show not possible. And the reason it's not possible is because where did you get that from if you said that you have a source in Oklahoma that told you that I got that you don't get that from a damn? A visit at the NFL stout in. Combine you don't do that. And you certainly you certainly don't go on the air sounding all in Tuesday asking I gotta go 'cause they're getting in my ear telling me, I got to go to break. So you could call back tomorrow Bill, but you certainly don't come out acting all enthusiastic in giving this kind of opinion, not even couching it with the possibility that it could be wrong because it's just somebody's opinion. Speaking about it, as if it's fact talk to anybody that could even Todd mcshay came on and said, Dan that was pretty damn harsh. Let me give me a break at an eight say ESPN is live Stephen a Smith show, ESPN radio ESPN news. If you missed any of today's show, go check it out on demand, and the Stephen a Smith podcast brought to you by capital. One capital. 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The TRUTH About Fantasy QBs in 2020, Part 2 - Fantasy Football Podcast for 1/21

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The TRUTH About Fantasy QBs in 2020, Part 2 - Fantasy Football Podcast for 1/21

"Welcome to the fantasy footballers podcast with your host. Andy holloway jason moore and migrate. Welcome man the band is back together. Scooby back any mike and jason. The fantasy footballers podcasts thursday january twenty first the years twenty twenty one and we are back with another truth episode. This show is being recorded a day early a very very big day for our country because philip rivers has retired from football. I really tried to find a gif of some sort of yellow river. But i could not. I could not succeed. Justice got my man is hydrated. Jason he's look i you know. P. river love the man hate the player. But that's fair fair. Yeah that is that is out now. Okay jason the has gone. You don't have to you. Don't have to keep the campaign rolling. He will be out of football. That's right do you hate the player or do you just hate the player from what was that was two thousand nineteen that had happened. Yes it was. In fact the previous season that he destroyed all of my Fantasy playoff hopes No i i mean as a player. He's usually someone. I've never enjoyed watching the way he throws. The ball is just just look so dumb. And but i like the dude. I like the trash talk is good guy. He's taking a head coaching position at a high school. Let me ask you jason. Would you send your kids to that high school. That's all i'm going to. I'm going to put it that way. He's the head coach of a high school football team. Now are you sending your kids though. You probably know what you don't want your kids to play for. Philip rivers doesn't want any peace stains on them anywhere. I mean right. I'm guessing the likelihood of finding a lot of images of a yellow river. I don't think that's a common thing. I don't think that's something that's very everyone in about. Oh let's stay away. This is why we're glad it's the tycoon. Oh we do have a great show. Today you can find us on twitter at the f. ballers instagramcom slash fantasy football. I want to invite you. If you're listening on apple podcasts to subscribe click that button leave us a review. If you enjoy the show we are a year round. Fantasy football podcast. If you're new to the show we are here with you. we don't take any breaks We are obsessed with fantasy football and we enjoy walking you through all of the different ways you can strategize and improve and enjoy your league even more and so if you enjoy the shell please leave us a review we are. It really moves jason tears on a regular basis. Well deposed things do want the words but that is true most do but we do have a great truth episode today getting into some interesting names at the quarterback position. Jason you on the tuesday show. But i brought up the fact. I just happened to notice that. The top two finishing quarterbacks in all the fantasy worthy to breakout picks from the k. And you are kind of the king of of the tutut in more ways than one. So i mean it was kind of a big deal to bring that to light that we got the ultimate draft. Pick coming out very soon. The preorder sunday and here. We are delivering the number one and number two quarterback for the world. It's nice when the breakouts work. And obviously you know you look at the. Adp versus where quarterbacks finished seems like the world is getting a little bit smarter with their analysis and their predictive ability to spot the breakouts. Which obviously we were a part of that process. But you know it's it's interesting. I'm also pretty shiv That you guys only got through eight quarterbacks he left you know you wanted to make. I got a lot of meat left on that bone as very kind. Yeah we wanted to make sure. We saved philip rivers for kind of more of the rest of today's. Oh you probably could have gone through a lot more than before. We ever get peer river all right before we jump into the rest of the truth. At the quarterback position do some buy-sell buy or sell presented by pristine auction. All right. here's today's by sell question. We're into the off season Questions which are really fun and More speculative more discussion to be had. Dj charq down year for the entirety of this team. Dj shark willie. Hit one thousand receiving yards in twenty twenty one He had a thousand eight yards and twenty nineteen when we last left him sort of and and last year was this past year was a struggle finished. Forty ninth at the wide receiver position. Miss multiple games dude injury. Seven hundred receiving yards Different quarterbacks you were meant shoe Glennon so heading into next year. We know that we'll have a new head. Coach will no new quarterback. Trevor lawrence is likely to be the quarterback there if not him justin fields and then What do you guys think. The line is is a very apt line. Because if you look at you know. He only played thirteen games this year. So his sixteen game pace was about eight hundred seventy yards. So he's he's not far off and he was doing with Injuries and awful quarterback play. So you you assume that those two things coming together and upgraded quarterback and upgraded offensive system and health. He could get there. I i you know. It's obviously very reasonable. Since he's already been there two years ago. But i'm inclined to sell because i think viscous chenault is going to be more and more involved. I don't know that. Dj shark will be the clear an absolute number one target coming into next year. And even if he is the clear number one he's i think it will be split more than he saw in two thousand nineteen so i'm going to take the under. I still think shark is going to be valuable player next year. I still think he's talented. But i don't think he hits. You know you look at it. And it's twenty five wide receivers hit this two years ago this past season about sixteen c- say okay around twenty. I'll hit that. Do i think deterrent will wind up in my top twenty. Probably not the bigger question for me is just that. It's a new quarterback didn't really i didn't know we were doing you know. Buy sell dj charter for thousand yards today. But so. I don't have the numbers in front of me but it's rookie. Cornerbacks sustaining high level. Fantasy wide receivers. I know you work. We're coming off of caesar where we had herbert so it was. It was hot in los angeles. If joe burrow had stayed healthy it seemed like tee higgins was well on his way to being that as well. But it's it's. It's still not the common thing for for a rookie quarterback to come in and have a really dominant fantasy wide receiver play. So that's that's why i would sell. He can maybe hit the thousand yard mark and at the the new system. Now with urban meyer. How how does that translate into the professional realm. We've seen college coaches make. The jump have tremendous success. We've seen the make the jump and beat tremendous failures who kelly hale who tuck tail and leave like you know halfway through the season. That's that's happened before. Not going to name any names so the there's just too many questions for me to Jason that i loved. Dj charcoal love the receiver. Wish i could say. Lock it in one thousand yards. But i'm skeptical. Its unanimous. I'll sell it as well. Trevor lawrence. they're going to. They're going to build some read option stuff into his into that offense and I just don't know if the passing volume will be there. It's not like chalk has been a volume receiver right. Even in his good season. It was seventy three receptions So i'm with you guys. I think it'll be just under. I think he's a talented player. But too many variables to bank on it that was by herself from pristine auction are great friends at pristine oxygen dot com. You can check out hundreds of daily auctions. hundreds. I'm going to be honest with you. I i was browsing a little. Something strange yesterday on pristine auction. Do tell while my son. My son is really into the st auction. No he's not available but the pokemon cards that he's interested in our on pristine auction so i was browsing some of them You know some of them high roller pokemon cards looking at they signed by you know. They weren't able to get him in house. Or at least not authenticated. Lightning bolt might reynolds. Then i mean can we get second-guess boiler alert aren't worth as much but that's possible but now there's there's tons of pop culture stuff. I check the You can see over my shoulder if you're watching on youtube. The back to the future gear on there as well. Lots of signed christopher lloyd gear from the from the movie. So you can check steen auction dot com use the code ballers you get a ten dollar credit longtime of the show and just a great company so check them out asaka little bit of news news and notes from around the league. We did talk about philip rivers already. He is retiring from football. After seventeen seasons the end of an era with rivers in and breeze potentially on the way out a couple of stalwarts at at the position look once you win the footy award for the nickname of the year. It's not been good. Well i mean it makes sense right. You've always saying you're just walk away. You know what else is there. Michael you had Mark wallenburg you have workout coppee river. I mean you know when when you win that prestigious award right you pretty much done. As far as football goes yeah. That's the elway walk off with the championship. Essentially fifth most passing passing yards ever fifth most passing touchdowns ever where. We're not that type of sports show so we won't get into the debate but just real quick jason to fill philip rivers hall of fame. Absolutely not yes. Yes he is. He is an absolutely for me. That fits the gift. I tweeted earlier and i just want that to be said that has nothing to do with the fantasy down and Sadness that was entered into my heart for philip rivers. I believe longevity. Numbers aren't enough. You have to be one of the top five guys at some point in your career. I don't think he liked top five all time in passing yards. No no no. No no not talking about the that's longevity. Played seventeen seasons. I'm saying at any point in his career. I don't think you would have ever said. He's one of the top five best quarterbacks playing football and if that's true five is a stretch but top ten. Sure there's only thirty two teams. The third is hall of fame. That's kind of my barometer. So they're they're. They're only five quarterbacks in the superbowl air that have been enshrined without a title as well as dan fouts. Jim kelly dan marino. Warren moon fran tarkenton so That will be the hurdle for someone like philip rivers unfortunately will know combine this year. No traditional combine. We still don't know how it's going to shake out for these Teams and prospects to Come together the interviews. They'll be workouts. They'll be timed events. Where you know we were talking before the show mike. Mike was saying you know. Hand timed forties everybody breaking records this year. Td yeah yeah. You're gonna have a ton of combines instead of one official. Here's where everybody's doing it at the same time. Pro days change from something that is also happening to what matters. You know that's gonna be where the scouting and that information is is really dug up from so we'll we'll guide you through that as they happen through this offseason. Are we going to finally get the forties run in pads. Like i've been begging for my entire life. Can we just have the teams put them in pads and compare them the. This isn't a terrible year to do it. If you're having to reset the whole thing and fixed the process might as well just rip the band aid off but the answer is no. They're not going to do that. All right one of my bigger l's from the season the ravens waived mark ingram right quick usga farewell finding a new team robert griffin is. Well waved by the ravens. Aj brand ended up with surgery on both of his knees. He came out and he said that the team had told him he was done. After two weeks ended up playing the full season you never know how much hyperbole is there for the Attention but this is. I mean when you have surgery on your knees. Something's was wrong. So yeah the nice thing is these were more cleanup procedures. These aren't you know reconstructive. Acl type of surgery so there should be no worry about his timeline. And if anything he should be healthier coming into next season then he was playing the majority this these more of those precautionary surgeries. We've been hearing about exactly. I'm gonna you know. Put him to get str- acl. Tear one. i got three. I'll be good to go. Yeah yeah they're doubly. Co that says my dubs. All right. michael. Thomas is likely to undergo surgeries this offseason as well damage to the ankle. The the news on michael thomas mann. It's i opening. I know this happens every year where we get the news at the end. They're finally oh. Yeah this player was was toughing and they were going through like lbj last year. Right and so michael thomas this year. Now they're talking about how he he wouldn't practice. It was just far too painful and they would get him out there on game day if people turn on. Michael thomas come the draft season. Which if we know the fantasy football community. We are fickle and vengeful crowd. At times. Michael thomas if drops outside of those you know that top four at the wide receiver position is going to be a smoking draft day value. Not meet let me just be let me just bring. It is see. I believe he will. I was gonna pose the question to jason. Aj brown michael thomas. Right here right now. Who would rather have next. Because you know i know. I love brown but on the table absolutely Aj browns cleanups. Don't scare me as much as you know. The the high ankle sprain ligament damage but neither one really scare me. I don't think it's about injury i would take. Aj brown over. Michael thomas because big play opportunity. We seen in his two years. He's he's been a top guy and michael. Thomas will obviously last season before last. He was the number one player that was what drew brees. And i assume that he will have a different quarterback. And if it's not you know if if quarterback happens to be a tight end i'm gonna go ahead and take. Aj brown. I will say in that timespan of implying with a tight end. Wild really really hurt. He had two games over one hundred yards yet. A eighty four yard game. He wasn't scoring touchdowns but he was putting up some receptions and yardage numbers michael thomas very good. This is not an anti michael. thomas take. It's more of a. There's going to be questioned with quarterback and ag brown is amazing. All right one more bit of news. Dan's the man. Six year deal for dan campbell as the head coach of the detroit. Lions six guns mahoney bad not bad. So dan campbell. They're making dan campbell a six year. Deal detroit what are you look. I love it. I generally speaking the cable bank account and campbell loves it. I think more teams need to do this. In general like what's shanahan and in san francisco. They made a long-term commit to him in the gm. Look you cannot build program especially when that's been on the bottom in a year and the coach is to have the ability. Because here's the problem. You give a coach a short term deal. They're looking for short-term results. you give it a coach. A long-term deal. They build the team the right way. That would be my philosophy where it's like you have to have foundational time period. Where like miami. Miami's a in a situation where it was going to take a couple of years. I don't know. I just say like a four year deal. Is that a four year deal for a guy to prove himself. I think that's a pretty long term deal for but nobody says four gun right. You know what i mean. We need sixty six on. This contract is if they need to get rid of dan campbell and four years. Dan gamble still getting pay for another two years. I think we're threatened just by his physical nature when they were interviewing. Oh man he's not going to accept four. He needs dealing. We're going to give you two years. He's just like just flexes in his shirt rip. Saw how many years you. The interesting thing here is dan. Campbell is one of those rare coaches where he's not necessarily i mean he. He was a tight end. Coach more offensive But he appears to me to be slotting in as a ceo type head coach. That's going to bring in an office coordinator and a defensive coordinator where those coordinators are going to run You know the offense defense. They're not going to be figureheads for his offense. And i think that can be the strength and conditioning guy. That's right well. He sliding in his nose tackle as well so it makes it makes sense all right before we get into the truth part two. We want to thank today's sponsors. And this is one i can speak very highly of and that is hellofresh. Hellofresh get fresh premeasured ingredients mouth-watering seasonal recipes delivered right to your door. Let me highlight a couple of things. About why i love hellofresh why our family keeps going back to hellofresh. The first thing is a lot of people don't realize it but it's actually cheaper. 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We went over the top eight quarterbacks at the position and a reminder all of the data reusing that's four point passing touchdown data and we look at consistency at the quarterback position in the reality of what these players did for your fantasy team on a week to week basis not just the end of season rankings gray games we classify those is more than twenty six fantasy points. Good games more than twenty fantasy points and bus games fewer than fifteen fantasy points. And we don't hold the miss games against them when we look at it. So jason you're alluding to the fact that the industry is getting a little sharper about identifying breakouts at the quarterback position. Yeah if you look at adp over the last several years. I think this year was more solid as far as people finishing at her about where they're being drafted the big outliers. This year josh allen one of our breakouts finished eight spots above his average draft position. Aaron rodgers nine spots above And ryan tannehill a player that we talk. We actually talked about these guys on last year's Truth about quarterbacks show to these are the type of players cuyler. Aaron rodgers and tannahill that. We're gonna be talking about today. The people who maybe didn't finish as the top guys but have a chance to do that next year based on what the real truth about them is. yes in. Tuesday's show had josh allen. Kyla murray aaron rodgers patrick mahomes to shawn watson russell wilson ryan tannehill and tom brady will kick off. Today's days With herbert so His consistency rank ended up at sat six and his fantasy finish was ninth. And i think herbert will be somebody in twenty twenty one He finished the year. Forty three hundred yards thirty one touchdowns. Ten interceptions super impressive. Danson say on. He will be somebody that you're going to have to plant your flag on though It with regards to what you believe about. Justin herbert sixty seven percent of the time. He gave you a good game bus. It only thirteen percent of the time had the big time week winning performances. Thirty three percent of the time great Had number one overall finishes number two finishes yet look weak four through eleven it was a was spectacular if you had just herber and you had the confidence to play him early in that run because it was really really good the back half of the year the you know not the same numbers and so you're gonna have to plant your flag on what you believe about him in two thousand twenty one. He's interesting to me because quarterback nine you know. This sensational rookie breakout. But he feels like a quarterback that's gonna be available near the double digit rounds to me. You guys might disagree with me. But like you know allen murray we already went through the you know the these names of of of guaranteed six or seven guys. That will go ahead of herbert and jason's right. The you know the fantasy football community is becoming wiser to the actual value of a single of a quarterback in single quarterback leagues. That's what we're talking about. We're not talking about two quarterback superplex leagues so. I think that herbert still will will drop in the draft to a spot where the you may have to plant a flag but they might not have to be a monolith. flag might might just have to. You know just a little pop out flag where you're like. Yeah herbert's my guile ride with him for a few weeks. Yeah i think you're gonna. I lean more on you know what towards the side of the andes alluding to i think come draft season. There will be someone in every league that you're in who believes just in herber will take a step forward from the best rookie quarterback season we've ever seen and he will be this next year's breakout even though he was already so good this season and so i think people will end up taking him early. I'm a little hesitant on Believing that he takes a step forward next year. He's amazing he. He blew everyone's expectations out of the water. I wish we had more of a rushing baseline because for fantasy. When you look at the top quarterback or they they rushed the ball and you look at the first half of the season when he was had the consistency rank of quarterback four. He was on pace for almost four hundred rushing yards but as he got You know his feet under him a better. Understanding of the offense got more comfortable became the leader of this team. He started throwing more rushing less his last eight games. he was on a sixteen game. Phase of one hundred thirty six rushing yards. And that's so. I think coming to this second season one. We don't know who is office. Coordinator is going to be used. It could be the same one they have not released their existing office coordinator But they are still doing interviews so they wanted to interview the guy from the rams but that was blocked. Show mcvay said to kim. Matombo over here you may. You may not interview. So yeah. I mean i. I don't project i mean. He had forty three hundred yards. Thirty one touchdowns senator deceptions. Do you project them to have much more than that. Just because he's going into year two. Probably not i will say this. You can make the reason. I believe what you're saying. Jason about the case both directions were somebody in your lee believes in him some. Somebody doesn't look one of the arguments for him as he played against the the worst offense with the worst offensive line in football according to pro football focus is recent interview offensive line rankings. I will say that some of that scrambling had to do he. Didn't he didn't have a stable running back situation until late in the years. Well that was also something that you could kind of craft the narrative both directions with austin ekeler's accurate in the passing game and that inflating his numbers and moving the offense or the fact that he had to drive the ball down the field as much as he did. He was so impressive. He set the rookie record in passing touchdowns completion rate. This was a player that you could just see the arm talent on an unlikely josh allen rookie season where the talent was hundred percent on display. But then the completion percentage was basement level. You had a sixty six percent pastor this year and justin herbert. I think go above players like brady next year. Who finished ahead of him but yet are older. But i just don't know how high he can go. Hi how he can go in. My confidence and justin herbert is. He hasn't number one wide receiver. That guy's not going anywhere and keen on his number one. Running backs is an elite. Pass catching running back. Like andy said. And what if what if the offensive line gets improved and you look at his his splits. There's there's no artificial pump and dump happening to herbert's numbers against top. Sixteen against bottom sixteen defenses twenty five points at home on the road very close a note. No massive home Home advantage so those. Those numbers had me believing in justin herbert he. He's great. he's elite. You watch some of the passes that he completes. There's just nothing you can do. The defense plays perfect defense there in his face and they're on the wide receiver and he just lays it right where it needs to be so going into your to. He will step forward. I think he'll be a better quarterback next year. Then he was this year but i think he'll be a worse quarterback for fantasy next year then he will be this year one of the things. One of the big storylines early in the season was the decimation of one of what looked to be one of the best defense in the league. They just lost all of their stars and this is a team that had to throw to catch up every single game. They're losing these crazy last-second possession type games. I don't expect that to happen next year. I think they're going to be able to control the clock a little bit better not have to be in shootouts in highschool employers. I probably if people are high on justin herbert next year i will probably sadly not have them even though i believe he is phenomenal. Yeah i think the truth of justin. Herbert is he's. He's a great quarterback. One of the best rookies we've ever seen and it'll be interesting to see if he can move upwards in fantasy production. Lamar jackson comes in at number ten. Saying that out loud that is a that is kind of like a knife in the back of everybody that invested so heavily in-draughts. Who's the second quarterback off the board and in fifteen games. Twenty seven hundred passing yards teeny pie. Twenty six passing touchdowns still over thousand rushing yards. That is where lamar. Jackson provides his fantasy consistency. Which was at a twenty percent. Bus routes sixty percent good twenty-seven percent. Great that last number there is probably the most disappointing drafted. You drafted lamar jackson to win you. The position over your fantasy opponent and he didn't finish above four at the position but one time and that was in week fourteen so when the player you drafted win you the week at the position was consistently losing to your opponent that hurt through the first eleven weeks yeah. I don't know what all the whole of blue is. I traded for lamar jackson and For that back half. When he turned into the quarterback to it was great it was great having the mara. My team out problems. Your point is apps that his first half and second half were very very different The first half where people drafted him he. He definitely destroyed people's teams because you gave up the ability to draft a good running back draft a good wide receiver in the second round. And that's where he was going and that that know really hurt you so the question. Now is the second half of the year when he was very very good from week. Thirteen on he was quarterback. One every single week Top six three times. What changed why was that. The lamar jackson that we saw it wasn't i don't think it was the lamar jackson that we last year. I don't think that was the reality. I think it was just touched him. He just threw more touchdowns in that span. I don't think that was the lamar that we saw year. They two years ago. The difference between lamar this year and last year really is the the amount of passing touchdowns he had the lowest fantasy. Finish for a quarterback with six hundred plus rushing yards since tim tebow. Who's the quarterback nineteen and twenty eleven. If the pies that small you're playing with fire on your touchdown percentage that's all you're doing. He can run it in. Jk dobbins run it in. He can end up with the variability. It just came to roost for those first eleven weeks so i think i guess you know what's the truth. What's the truth about lamar jackson. I think one piece is very similar to herbert that we were talking about. If you remember the beginning of the year the defense of the baltimore ravens was as good as absolutely anybody out there just absolutely dominant and they were winning these games. Everyone was disappointed with lamar jackson. But this team was. This team was winning all their games. And then they lost some key pieces on defense got injured And had to be involved in a couple more shootouts And and i asked them to be a very good defense next year. That's my expectation. So i think what we saw over the course of the season you kinda mix it all together with lamar jackson and say yeah. He's he's good not great for fantasy. That's that's my expectation. The question is going to be. How does he fall. Will people won't be that far. I agree. I think because he has such a huge name because he completely by himself want people championships two years ago. There's always going to be the allure. The hope the promise that you can get back there. You had obviously hollywood brown right. That's the point. I wanted to bring up was over at that second. Half when things turned around they started using marquees brown in different ways instead of just him on nine routes they figured out how to get him more involved of in the inside of the field that turned into hollywood brown scoring in five of the final six games. And that's the that's how lamar has to get it done. That's how you need that two years ago. Magic where lamar jackson gets us. Thousand yard rushing or thousand season. And then it's still throwing in touchdown. Just yeah andy agree. Jk dobbins is going to take some rushing touchdowns two years ago mark ingram. He took a boatload of touchdown opportunity way from lamar jackson and he still was that dominant fantasy guy. So i think i think the truth about lamar. Jackson is not two years ago but it is much closer to Much closer to the second half of this year than the first half. why look. Let's look at the numbers. We broke down. Aaron rodgers yesterday at the touchdown percentage. He had nine point one which is outlandish. He did a nine percent like twelve years ago and it never came close to that again. Lamar in two thousand nineteen was nine percent. This past year was six point nine percent which is still a really good number. You know relative to other courts. Big drop so to me. It means that this year was a little bit more indicative of the prescription for jackson. Which will be. Look if i get close to what i got this year from lamar. He's not going to be on any team. 'cause there's no way he's going at the qb ten spot but they're still the possibility that he ends up like he did for you. Which is you acquired him. At the right time he was he was a difference maker for you down the stretch and That was something we didn't see for the first eleven weeks so another player. That's can be really interesting like aaron rodgers. Lamar jackson next year. It seemed very easy to pick aaron rodgers on my side. That's that's tough because rushing line. You just brought up that that passing touchdown percentage. It's gonna come down for aaron rodgers just like it did the last time he did it just like it did every time any quarterback in his has done that and if that comes down right here lamar's baseline will probably be enough to where you go that direction i would. I would lean lamar kirk. Cousins came in at number eleven kirk. All right Did i read the consistency. Ranking of lamar eight. I feel like i skipped that A tenth that the position in finnish eighth and consistency speaking to i guess amplifying your whole rushing baseline comments there. Kirk cousins finished at eleven. His consistency rank was fourteen You know kirk is an interesting quarterback because you look on paper now now now that we know what justin jefferson is bright. Forty two hundred passing yards. Thirty five touchdowns thirteen picks. How impressive is that. That's really good season and it's surprising to me. Like i think because he got off to such a slow start. You know the the first five weeks. He had three games where he wasn't in the top sixteen. He you just kind of forgot about him but kirk was really really good. He was in the second half of the year he was consistency. Rank quarterback four As justin jefferson came on and they needed to throw the ball more. Now you have kubiak leaving the run game master is not gonna be there But it's still a team that wants to play defensive on the ball right. Yeah mike zimmer for sure no doubt that being said we talked about tannehill yesterday as i can't crowned the king of the stream i think cousins is is right there with them where cousins took advantage of bottom sixteen defenses. He was five points better against some he was also six points better at home at home against the bottom five defense or stream numbers. I know when he's going to be good. Is the at home against the bottom defense. Perfect on or cousins. Yeah a this is crazy to cousins fantasy finish. Was the lowest ever for a quarterback with thirty five passing touchdowns. So that's just to say that there were you know. The numbers brought up yesterday with the rushing quarterback baselines. Going up with twenty was at twenty quarterbacks with three plus rushing touchdowns it really changed the way you look at the season because in another year. A forty three hundred. Thirty five season doesn't finish at eleven the position this is a toddler. Five six type year. Unfortunate timing for kirk to put up those numbers. But maybe that makes him a hidden value later in-draughts with justin jefferson evolution with still being there with the team winning some ball games games down the stretch with with his arm and and bigger is coming as on as as a receiving tight in and then of course dalvin cook is great in the receiving game. So i think it's gonna come down to the schedule right when the schedule is made and his out. You're going to take a look when you're looking at those late round quarterbacks because kirk cousins could go easily go on drafted in the majority of single quarterback leagues next year. And so it's one of those if the first four or five weeks he's got a lot of you know home games against bad projected opponents. Then that's someone. I'm going in on if he is Starts his year with a difficult schedule. I think he's going to be a scheduled based draft decision for me next. It's nice that they found you know coming into the year so much doubt with digs leaving. It's nice to know that you have you know the ascendant talent of jefferson number twelve at the position with a twenty two. that's where matt ryan ranked and consistency in total points. Twenty second inconsistency you the that's forty four percent of his games is that is matt ryan. Let's let's figure this out. Does that make matt ryan on the truth episode. Vi worst fantasy football quarterback. That's possible as he he he finished death you start twelfth finished at twelve. So you're the worst of the starters and then you were so inconsistent that you could deliver. I'm looking at his consistency chart. It's shocking to have six games outside the top twenty five on the week and he would start a. He wouldn't just be bad all the time though he would start to run of those gangs after he finally convinced you that you should be starting matt ryan opening up whether qb finish of seven and six then went on a run three straight outside of the top twenty four. Then you're then he's back. Ok okay matt ryan who were going into the bye week. I trust you my man. Take me there another. Run all outside of the top fifteen. This was infuriating. Matt ryan is is a better quarterback than this in in my opinion. You're the julio jones problem. They totally botched his situation with his hamstring. Which is the the interesting thing about the hamstring story. I don't know if you guys remember. Davante adams had a hamstring problem at the exact same time as julio jones and the green bay packers san who devante down and said we want you to heal up and julio jones i dunno force his way on the field the trainers told him he was good to go. And you see. The tale of those two seasons could not be more opposite. One of the coaches was secure in his job and one of them was playing. I agree to have you might another another year and so you get hulu on the field. Obviously that's a huge question. We presume julio will be here and be the starter. I think by the time next year comes. You could have another quarterback on this roster and matt ryan is an untouchable draft pick other than if the first couple of games of the season Start well did he get the deed to be river at this. Point is that handed off to matt. Ryan yellow ice. I was immediately yellow. I o mattie yellow is oh goodness i think what's funny is in my head and we went about half a show without a urine related jason. You know we we've talked. It was a couple of shows ago. about at the city of atlanta. It seems like the local press like we need to move on from matt. Ryan is the time to move on from matt ryan. You're telling me if i aside from family life and all that. I'm just saying the the the professional situation. Hey matt ryan. You could go be the quarterback for the colts next year or would you rather be the quarterback for this team. Like matt ryan the player. I'd be very happy to go play for the colts and replace the p. river. Yeah they they had a lot of close games this year. They had a lot of opportunities to win games and that was with a missing. Julio so i don't know if they think it's as bad as as maybe the fantasy community feels like. It is look the only quarterback out there that can rival matt ryan inconsistency awfulness was matthew stafford but he was because of injury. It wasn't his fall had games where he start for. You know a driver or and then went out with injury. That's man on his own. This was a yellow ice they do. This is yellow. They do feel similar though because the fan base is kind of mediocrity of the teams have a weird fatigue that the rest of the outside world doesn't have for those players there are detroit fans wanna move on from matthew. Stafford there are falcons fans that want to move on from Matt ryan By the way here's one area where he was consistent in twenty nineteen and twenty twenty. He couldn't put up numbers against top sixteen defenses. So when you're looking at that streaming equation look nine points worse against top sixteen defense last year nine points worse essentially this year. You're looking at this all wrong. Andy nine points better against bottom sixteen all okay realize better. I guess it's a matter of perspective there So we can move on the. Let's let's touch on it a a number of these Later quarterbacks We can be brief and bring up guys that you guys really wanna talk about as well but derek carr finished thirteenth at the position. Sixteenth inconsistency This was a pretty consistent against top and bottom defenses home in a way. But just right there in that derek carr zone which is not really a fancy place to six percent. Great games would be something to highlight their And we'll we'll share some of these truth Charts with you guys on twitter so that you can see some of the breakdown but busted thirty eight percent of the time. Yeah okay and you couldn't you couldn't really get a handle on which games it was coming. Sometimes it would be a bad match up. He has a good game. Great match be as bad game at the end of the year has split about the same so it wasn't really a great streaming candidate. I don't think he's got the weapons to get me. Excited is got the walrus and that's it. I think they whiffed on their draft. Picks I banned him. Didn't i ban him. I atkinson the car since then. Nor will i so well. He sent it in because he was. I think he was the number one quarterback on the week after you banished him on our talking guys at random. Are we going. Just let me walk through just a few more real quick and if you guys have comments on them You can share them and then then you can bring up some names if i if i miss him a big ben at fourteen consistency of nineteen says he wants to come back and play again. He is a as close to a hands off fantasy quarterback as you can get i mean seven percent gray games thirty three percent good. Those numbers stink busted a third of the time I mean this was. This was not a good year for big ben. You look at the consistency chart and you know it's crazy. Grow you in is done. I mean it's just it's all use the probably go the way of briesen rivers. Yeah i think it's over for big men. It was wild that that with season of thirty one hundred. Thirty eight hundred yards and thirty three touchdowns you know. That's that's fine but he still managed to sustain several fantasy relevant. Pass catching weapons you know from. Clay polled diontae johnson. While at the quarterback didn't come through why sixteen game pace of six hundred and forty eight passing attemps. That is that he's throwing the ball. They didn't hunt all times of every game. Any you know. He got thirty eight hundred passing yards. He's washed honestly. Abe reminds me of what happen to brees there. Was you know he did take downfield shots. But the way the offense moved was dinks and dunks and juju was a possession guy yards. From the line of scrimmage and you through screens the dante and and you're going to lose juju this offseason so oh yeah is not getting better. I don't think for for been stafford finished at fifteenth consistency rank of twenty. I honestly stafford was probably my biggest disappointment at the quarterback position for the whole year based on how he finished last year. some of. that's not his fault. Kenny golladay was essential essentially gone for the entirety of the year. But you didn't see on next year. He absolutely that is injuries head injuries. Marvin jones could be gone to so this whole off. Passing offense use africa begun. I mean that's not a zero percent in the offseason for this teenager. If you're building with a six year contract with dan campbell decisions going to have to be made on. Whether stafford's your future is. I think you'd be an idiot. Not to keep him there But four thousand yards. Twenty six passing touchdowns injured frequently only a handful of games in the top ten and on the colts and i get to decide between stafford and matt ryan give me stafford. All day i agree i agree. There's got to be a decent age gap between them right. I average only thirty three. What no way. Through thirty three years old that is gerrad around forever so stanford has a. that's why jeep into five campbell. Two year age gap matt ryan. Thirty five right now. Yeah okay Cam newton all right d-. Un in camden. Yeah on the. He starts another game outside of an injury baker mayfield. Here's a value that one. I want to talk about sure. Yeah why don't you Talk about baker because he was the seventeenth. Ranked fantasy quarterback twenty eighth and consistency. That is not good. That's awful But his second half of the year. He was quarterback fifteen and consistency. We talked about this a lot through the season. He had a ton of weather. Awful impossible to have good fantasies. Success games in the middle of the season where he had his worst stretch it the beginning of the season when there wasn't the weather problems and you had odell beckham. He was mad at best but as the season went on when they got after the weather and hotel beckham was not part of this team. And you just let baker run the offense. He was good. He played well. He looked good. He looked good in the playoffs. To me I think he is going to be someone. I'm interested in next year. And i'm really curious what this team is going to do with odell beckham. Can they look and say our offense is better without beckham. Can we move on from him or is it just going to be beckham. Added back in and if so is that worse for baker well. I don't think baker you know we're gonna have a differing opinion here no i. I gave baker credited in the playoffs. I think baker executed the quarterback position. Extremely well down the stretch for the team. I agree with every sentiment. You have however. This is like giving me a less athletic lower floor. Russell wilson type of solution for my fantasy team. The identity of kevin stefanski has always been to run the football. They have to elite running backs. They have a good defense. I do not think. I'm going to be able to ever count on baker in the current environment Outside of a streaming potential mike. Where do you see bakers future. Because this i in totality was not a good year for baker. Sh yeah i. I would say it's an okay year. Four and the weather in cleveland plans to be about the same year. That's fair that is i mean. It's not they're not changing. It absolutely love. I lean more on the side With you andy that. I like baker mayfield. That baker is a good quarterback who can execute but with his situation and those around him. I don't think that he can make that jump to being a top tier wide receiver. That the question of what about a quarterback. Oh sorry a quarterback the started thinking wide receiver. Cause it's it's an absurd question. It is absolutely absurd question. Say is a quarterback better if you remove in elite wide receiver in the first couple years of that wide receivers career. He did things that we've never seen in the history of the nfl. Could that quarterback be better if he's not on the it's an absurd question and yet it is a very fair question because we have seen You know about We've seen enough games with baker and odell beckham together to say that it doesn't work. Could it be fixed short. But at this point it just it whatever. The connection is between those two guys. it just doesn't work. I thought a lot about that. Whole situation because kevin stefanski came out and said how you know how committed the team. Odell beckham is how excited. He has to have him back next year. The contract is not conducive for beckham. leaving landry's the best friend. Like i think beckham's back in full next year and i wonder if i wonder if it you know. This team found itself with brand new head coach halfway through the year. I wonder if it was less beckham than we think. Played baltimore washington indianapolis pittsburgh in that beginning part of the year. Those are four extremely good. Defenses during those beckham your days. So you know i. I saw enough higgins in hodge in in the last part of the season baker. Just learning an offense at the beginning point. Yeah exactly it's that's why i'm saying it's it's absurd that this is a an okay disgusted to have. It's not hot taking it. Sounds like a stupid hot. Take the is kirk cousins better without justin jefferson. Like right stupid question. I'm glad you brought up the opponent's andy because hopefully odell beckham was not the issue but i. I am currently inclined to just believe that narrative that chur. He hurts baker's ability to spread the ball around the way that it's best for the offense. We've seen nine games without him. Twenty three with those two on the field to gather he three points better without beckham. Yeah i mean you can't word. It was part of that rookie year. To where you didn't have them there and he wit and showed you a red zone. Efficiency weren't force the football and It's it's a worthwhile discussion no question. And what beckham has coming back from an acl. After declining seasons as well will be interesting they did have a number one offensive line and all the football. The offseason moves that were hyped and talked about on the show They came to fruition in building this team into a playoff contender so Give me another name that you guys want to discuss here. Goff was eighteenth with twenty sixth ranked consistency. Bridgewater was nineteenth twenty seventh consistency. The retiring rivers twentieth at the position but there are names such as carson wentz. Joe burrow dak prescott. That could be interesting to talk about it. Yeah deck deck prescott someone. We cannot forget about we you know at the end of the year. He's down the rankings. When you project out next year you're going to have a hard time putting him like top three. Because i saw these guys. We saw cuyler. And we sell josh allen and we saw obviously mahomes and lamar was great. The second half but dak was fantastic. Was consistency rank quarterback seven above. Most these guys we've been talking about. He was you know in weeks. Two three and four He was the quarterback one four and one and then he got injured in week five I think he's going to be able to do it in new york with the jets. I believe jack will be back with the cowboys. And he should be an absolute lock for a top five quarterback. I think the defense is gonna stink his weapons or great ceedee. Lambs got another year under his belt in this offense and assuming that he's healthy which you know the money on the contract will probably tell us loud and clear I think dacca's someone we you just can't forget about it. And he will almost assuredly be a good value next year because of the injury. This was going to ask you. Do you think he goes Past you know six seventh-round eighth round. I think that deck is primed to to be drafted right in that josh allen spot of last year and We're still really long ways away. But i get the feeling that prescott is going to be a fantasy footballer. Darling come draft season. Yeah and it's hard to talk about. I will be all if he's back in dallas. I will be all in on him with jason that he's he has top five potential. We've we've never seen him be bat for fantasy football wind. You've gotta be excited about blake jarwin's triumphant return. Yeah cares about ceedee lamb. Imagine week two and four when when dak prescott was the number one overall quarterback and he didn't have his best weapon. Joe burrow just quick passing thoughts on him. I mean it was. We didn't get to see very much. But i think we're all impressed with the way. He competed on a regular basis in a tough division It's like he has a bright future. Yeah i think. Thirtieth ranked offensive line. But the story of joe burrow is really going to be the multi-year recovery situation you for the tornado pl fell the medical l. Down man the medical term for what happened is shredded knee right and it sucks and It might be a while we see. It may make it hard to project. Some of their their passing Weapons next year but Bright future for t. Higgins big a bright future for joe burrow but the place to get it done. You know what i mean. It's almost the sure stafford right in detroit. And you're like well you know. Maybe you could have been luckier. Be drafted to a different franchiser. Different opportunity. But i think we all like borough Talent wise in don't lies but the recovery of the knee. I think he can come back from but he won't be on. He won't be on my draft board. I can't imagine that borough especially the first half of next year is close to the player. That he yeah. We'll be He won't be one hundred percent halfway through next year. I will not take him off my board. He's great but he'll be low all right he'll be okay. That's a big. It's a big board all right. Just three quarterback league joe burrow. I believe jason already has them on his dining team right. He's just the way it does recovery room. Part of your team is exactly the i. r. Yeah yeah all right. That'll do it for today's episode of the podcast more truth episodes across a number of Positions what's our brooks. What's our next position that we're gonna break down getting into the running backs all year. Okay so that'll be fun anything else that we need to cover today. You guys got anything on your mind jason. How you doing what what. What are you wearing today. I know is. It's youtube but all of a sudden bright bright nike shirt mama. Maria pretty nice. That's pretty nice all right. That'll do it for today's episode. Thank you for tuning in supporting the podcast. You can find youtube dot com slash the fantasy football or subscribed thick the bell. We'll be here all offseason looking forward to it. Take care everybody goodbye. 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Did the Dolphins find their version of Brett Favre?

NFL: Move the Sticks with Daniel Jeremiah & Bucky Brooks

44:24 min | 1 year ago

Did the Dolphins find their version of Brett Favre?

"And now move the sticks with Daniel, Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks. What's going on everybody? Here. We are now one week post draft officially on this Thursday. And we're almost done with half of the draft is to move the six podcast right Lewis in for DJ with my man Bucky Brooks ready to rock and roll here today still looking back at the draft though, Buckingham kind of excited. I know it probably a little extra work for you like going going. You know, we did our favorite players by round go. Yeah. Now that we've got the actual results. Let's go favorite picks by Ron will do that. And then kind of take a look at best offensive and defensive drafts too. Yeah. Is gonna be I think the big thing obviously doing Patas draft with you the run up to the draft so many conversations that we have about all these different players. And then you back in you go to draft day and draft weekend. And you realize how many plays you didn't talk about how many players. You didn't have a chance to talk about just because of the show dynamics of whatever you just don't get all the names in. And then there's a big names down there too. You know, what I mean, some big big names player we didn't. So we can try and touch all those guys that she'd have got a little Sean running up to the draft. But now they've been picked and Landon routines. We can talk about them for sure of speaking of shine. Guess I wanna start this episode though by talking about the shine wearing off of Josh Rosen and Arizona, and maybe left a little shiner based on the way they him leaving. Now, he is often Miami. And I wanna start this because you had an interesting take on this on the Colin coward show this week. So we're you said the dolphins might have found their version of Brett farve too. The Packers me the rationale here. Okay. So here's the rationale in early nineties ninety two right before I got I got to the Packers ninety five the Green Bay Packers where he. Were able to pull off a deal with the Atlanta Falcons for Brett Farr breath. Or if you've been a second round pick for the falcons for whatever reason his first year in Atlanta didn't go according to plan. He was available. Ron woolfe had always had his breath for thought he was one of the top players Cantu, kicked himself for not being able to make the move to get him. And so he traded form he brings him in. And he put them behind the magic man dommage. Cow. Ski was starting quarterback for the Green Bay Packers breath forward to come in and come to learn and whenever he got his opportunity maybe he would be the starting quarterback. And so when I look at how breath are kind of worked his way to kind of pick himself up by the bootstraps finally was able to display the talent that a lot of people are seeing him under control grin. You saw a guy in evolve into a three-time MVP quarterback. God that was a Super Bowl winner. One of the best quarterbacks and football. And Josh Rosen. I think it goes without question that he is wanting more talented throwers that we've seen in the draft class last year. I think you could say he might have been the purest passer when it comes to being able to throw from the pocket and use all areas of the feel and those things the issue that is always around Josh two issues one durability because he was banged up and beat up most of his time at UCLA. And then the second was kind of Senate around his personality is he aloof how does he fit in a blend in with the locker room, what would his interactions be with coaches? And so because of that like this kind of been this weird thing that has surrounded him when it comes to evaluation like people aren't as high on Rosen as most people would when you just kind of looked at the tape. And so I believe he gets. Opportunity to do a career reset and go into Miami. I believe he jumps into a system that kind of plays to the strength of who he is person. And is a player meaning is a high Q system as one that you know, he play because around him he can get the ball out. He can do things. The office of line is improved from what he played behind. Great. But it's it's. Stat hurt to stand on TV last year. He was sex seventeen times on passes. There were two point five seconds or less in terms of release time. Insane. Unrolling rush rush free rushing lights like people not getting there. So he goes, and I think the coaching staff that will have the opportunity to work with him will fit. How he is. Jim call will be in the quarterback coach Chad O'Shea being the offensive coordinator coming from this system in New England, very cerebral system. A lot on the intelligence in the processing of the quarter of absolute Bryant flory's also coming from New England, and understanding that I just believe this will be a nice fit for him, and he'll have opportunity to show people. And if it hits like we think it may hit if he plays. Well, the grim the Miami Dolphins will have found a version of a starting quarterback for the next three years. They have on the cheap while they're able to build up the rest of their roster must like Green Bay was able to do in the mid nineties where they got Brett farve. And then after that they're able to put the pieces in place around him. I think in Miami. They may have an opportunity to do the same. By the way, just to finish up as you introduce the magic man to us. They're done dumb account. He's in for forty three hundred yards in one thousand nine hundred nine that's that was virtually unheard of back then also through twenty interceptions. Twenty seven touchdown twenty forty three hundred yards. There's a lot. He never threw for more than two thousand and his career after that the magic. Mobile. Oh, they still talk about talk about them. Updating. For them that weekend. When I was there last it was a pro bowler. Okay. I think that's a a Pro Bowl and he ninety two three hundred yards. He led the league in passing. Yeah. Prob- eighty nine. They went ten and six year. Okay. I think that's a great take on on Rosen. And in a roundabout way, I'm going to get to Rosen again here because some round me up on Twitter during the draft on Friday and get riled up easy. In fact, I'm probably I was telling kit this before you walked in. I'm probably the last person to engage in argument on to-, you give them a Twitter argument, but not not really a little bit. I just I got angered and my man Darren reveal. Sports is is sports action networks something like that. And so he puts out some good content sums content that I enjoy. And I and I usually appreciate it. This will be the wrong way tweeted on night two. Can't remember a draft in recent history. That was this boring. Little intrigue not that many college stars to wait for. And I was like man you're trying to ruin Christmas for me. Right. Don't do that. And so I had to quote tweet, and I had to just politely say could not disagree more. He then fired back and was like really share. What's been exciting tonight? And I was like, okay. I'm not going to do. I'm not I'm not I'm going to do it. I'm gonna do it. And so I was like, okay. I'm just going to do this one thing. And I'm a let it be. I'm not going to get in a prolonged battle here. So I said, okay Darren there is a trade scenario working itself out in real time up and down the draft board as we're going through round two. Hear that involves a player taking number ten overall. Just last year. This never happens. It is unprecedented. I mean, we're talking about the dolphins who emerged as the major sooner for Rosen had the forty eighth overall pick. It's the forty seventh pick in there's no trade yet. And then there's a trade, but it's the dolphins moving down to sixty two. So you're like, okay, they're buying themselves. A little more time to try to figure this thing out with Steve time. And and then eventually we get to sixty two and we learned that that is the trae pick. Right. And I'm like did that was exciting. That was really exciting. I mean, we're talking about a potential franchise quarterback traded. But we weren't sure they were actual deadlines in place here like because what if the dolphins made the picket forty-eight dinner, they interested are the cardinals interested in trading for third round pick. Is it over is Rosen going to stay now with Cuyler Murray, which is intriguing in and of itself. And so I left that there was like that's one piece of entry. I'm not even going to mention the fact that decay Metcalf. The darling. Of the Predrag runup fell out of the first round almost fell out of the second round Hussein your tackle was available in the second round. Who was going to be the next running back off the board, and drew where's drew lock to go who's going to be that fifth quarterback. I'm like guy there is intrigue all over the place here in round two. Just bothered me a little bit. But the Rosen thing was was the biggest for me Farda like there. Because I think and I think what is annoying for those of us that are like thousand people came to Nashville draft for the million watch for those this intimately involved in the drought. Not only that it outright s- NBA playoff game. Like the MBA is in the midst of their playoff tournament. And people are more intrigued to see names come off the draft board into watch be role in highlights. Like, that's basically what it is. And so for us, I think is is a little difficult when the casual fly by night fans kinda come in and come out and say, oh, there's no starpower when in essence what you're doing you. Watching a bunch of kids realize dreams is the culmination of a lot of our work for a lot of people their families and all that. And so what should be coronation, which should be a celebration a lot of criticism going on? And that is why and I'll say this going in. I feel bad about what happened after dinner Jones. Nhs was selected six overall by the New York Giants because regardless of how we felt or how people believe the Josh should have proceeded a whatever that was guys night. That was his special moment. The fact that he's had to hear booze and catcalls and all that other stuff from people around before he even stepped onto the field before even puts on jersey or anything to me that's not unfair. And I know we live in it's on Twitter and Instagram and people just critique and say anything and everything, but what I hope is. I hope that he has an opportunity to come to shove it and people because the I think is a better player than people give him credit for every Gossett. Whether we think he's six best player. I understood the rationale behind the move and we'll see plays out because ultimately everyone is going to be judged on how they play him perform on the field. I just wish that people would have taken a little time to let him enjoy his moment. You know what? But that's why they drafted him. Because in his own way. He's just going to brush that shoulder off. Yeah. I mean like, I get it. Yeah. You want everyone to give you a standing over? You know when you're the pick. You're the guy you're the quarterback the future quarterback of the New York Giants. But you know, what I think he's totally okay. With all understand. And I think he look David get them and has come out and try to defend the pick. And I don't think you really have to ultimately he'll defend it, by the way to deploy as an a team that you build around him. However, he did talk about the position of playing quarterback for the New York. Giants is different than others. You have to have the right stuff the right makeup. You can't be caught up in some of the other stuff, and I do know from our interactions with him and his family, it appears that Daniel has the right stuff mentally to be able to endure and handle it. And we're just gonna see how it plays out when they finally put the team around him and give him the ball, and in that light talking about Daniel Jones moment, and it's the last thing get to before we get to our favorite picks by round here. I've got a little credit to our producer Ryan yacht yesterday on path to the draft because he was watching round two of the draft intrigue that surrounded it and one of the most emotional moments was when Reggie Cobb son DeMarcus got to announce the forty nine or second round pick after Reggie had passed just that week of rather, suddenly, and you know, and rightly so that moment was about was about Reggie and a little tribute to him from from Charles Davis. But also in in that way, deebo Samuel didn't get his moment on the draft broadcast, and he deserved it. He was a high second round pick the forty Niners a good pick pick. We all really liked. And so Ryan had the good idea to kind of re reenact that that moment for him on path of the graph yesterday. So if you if you haven't seen that go check it out shirts on NFL dot com right now. But I thought that was really cool also on the side note. What do you guys think about having like Pat McAfee show up and kind of give w e? Reggie Wayne calling out the Tennessee titans. Reggie gonna give their three times though. It got a little. I also didn't realize they've only beaten the colts three of the last twenty times until he said that I didn't know that was that bad. I knew it was something domination domination. Reggie Reggie definitely sparked it up. I think you kind of just adds a new addition to the drought you guys go up. I do like that. I'm glad we didn't get ten different fly eagles fly chance. Like we did that second year in Philadelphia. It was stuck out a little bit old. But yeah, that stuff is really cool. I agree with you there kin. Let's let's jump into it here. Let's go favorite picks by round. You wanna lead us off with your favourite first round pick here Bucky favors round pick for me. The Pittsburgh Steelers selecting Devon Bush. Not only because they aggressively made a move up the board, which is not their style. But they gotta play they fit what they need in terms of style of play in difference maker this Pittsburgh Steelers defense has not been the same since Ryan. She's us unfortunate injury. They needed a guy that was an energetic playmaker. In the middle of defense. They needed someone who had their lettuces and to make plays against a run. But also cover it could add a little different element as a Blitzer Devin Bush is all of that. And when I'll watch him play. He reminds me of a still me he's tough. He's hard knows. He's blue collar. He brings all of that toughness that you have to have to play for them. So to me, I thought it was a great fit. And also think it was another step in the right direction for Mike Tomlin trying to reestablish the culture in that locker room. I agree with you. I think that's awesome. And you know, if you if you've identified your guy, go get him, go get him 'cause you don't get to be there. Don't wait, wait. Okay. My favorite first round pick. And this may come as a bit of a surprise. Is Titus Howard to Houston Texans with the twenty third pick? And so this the rational behind this one is I think there's a perception that when the eagles traded up and got in front of the Texans to take Andre Dillard who fell a little bit. We thought he might grow in the first fit for sixteen. That there was panic in the Texans draft room that they were like, oh Dillard's gone. What are we going to do? My gosh. Let's Titus Howard. And if you go to the Texans Instagram right now, and you go back a couple of days, and you look at Brian gain in control of that war room at the time. That selection was going to be made. It was impressive. He is standing up, and they have a pretty big war room of a lot of people in. There are some teams that have a smaller room, and he stood up there and gave the pitch for Titus Howard to the organization. He was like we are building this franchise around to Shawn Watson, we are building blocks around him to protect him. That is what this is all about tightest Howard passed the test at every turn from combine to the senior bowl to thirty visit to the workout. He is going to be a building block for us to accentuate, Sean Watson's talent. And he said it so calmly and so matter of factly, and then handed the phone over to. To Bill O'Brien who then said, we're building bodyguards for Shawn Watson, you are one of the bodyguards like it. And I was like, you know, what this is a team that was not, you know, this was not their second choice, and then cow McNair, the owner got up and was like we were hoping you were gonna slide to us, and you can say whatever you want about whether that was actually the case. But I thought it was really cool the rationale for the pick the idea behind the pick and you can evaluate whether you thought they missed out on Dillard and had to settle and I think I think that's the thing. And here's the tricky part about draft analysis by draft analysis as some point it has to go away from what you personally think about a player to a how did a team and the draft board or what do they visit this player doing? And so so much of the immediate knee-jerk reaction was oh they missed out. Andrea dill, but we don't even know if valued Andrea Diller like correct that debt is a thing that we don't know on our side. We speculate how these guys may be ranked on the board. But unless you're in the room, you really don't know how teams value or covet those guys until that's maybe get a little insight those posts drought phone calls. So if they believed that Titus out was a first round pick. If they believe he's the right guy for them. We'll see. But as you talked about him making the pitch that is how it typically goes down. You make the pitch you stand on to tape for you guy. You let everyone know here's why he fits us. Here's how he's going to help us. Here's the planet. We envisioned for him years two three and four and how the team will collectively grow with him. And so wasn't defending the pick. He was saying this is how we're building this team. Right. And look it we've talked about the quarterback and how you have to like build your team around a quarterback. And makes you that the quarterback has the things that he needs to floors and to Shawn Watson can't take the beaten that it took last year with all the leakage into the pocket. They have to short it up and make sure that he is able to kind of throw from grassy knoll. And so to go and get Titus out and into go back in the second round and get max sharpening, and they'll like you have to double down and make sure that he is protected. He gets what he needs and they got some other players to to help them. And so it is about this. So look, I'm I'm with it. Like, that's that's big on brand gain to come to have it because there shouldn't be panic in the draft room, and we'll shouldn't should be like the chiefs and ninety four deciding whether you're gonna take Greg Hiller. Mario bates. No. So anyway, that's a whole nother story, but we'll we'll go faster there. But I just I wanted to make that clear because I thought it was really neat. And I'm glad to Texans shared that on social media to. Okay, I'm excited about your favorite second round pick around to Dallas Cowboys tristen hill defensive tackle from central Florida. I love this pick for variety of reasons. Rod Mary Nellie had struck up a relationship with Tristan hill struck overlay ship to the point that he had. Tristen hill sign a work ethic. Contrast before the draft saying that if he comes to the Dallas Cowboys that he's going to meet the standards of performance that is expected of a Dallas cowboy to effort to energy the toughness, all of those things. And so to me I was like man dad is terrific. But then when you go back, and you look at the tape, and you watch tristen hill, you talk about a guy who was arguably the most talented player on the team, but they didn't start him. He's a backup player for whatever reason. He Anna coaches to staff didn't job, but rod Marinelli who has a long track record of maximizing the performance of guys that he coaches guess effort guy loves effort got demands effort an engineer from his guys. I think this is the perfect fit and Tristan hill could be a star Fidel, Scott, I'm with you on that for sure and I'll go to the Broncos pick their first pick of the second round Dalton riser offensive linemen because I he might play everywhere on their offensive line. It's gonna tackle in him might start out at guard has played center they lost Matt Paradis. But we're talking about a guy who could very well be a Pro Bowl offense of Lyman for the Broncos in area where they have been in dire. Need the last? I don't know five years. What is it is definitely going to be an all pro in their community. And you've seen the feature on path to the draft and on our draft coverage. In fact, it resonated so much with people that crashed his foundation's website reisner up dot com during our pre-draft show on night one. Like, that's that's how much this guy resonates with people. And I guarantee you that community is going to wrap their arms around him. And that's going to be a really nice match there. I feel like for riser who grew up in Wiggins Colorado about sixty miles outside of Denver. I mean is great. Did you get a chance to play in front of you right in front of everything? And look the ever steady. Evers? Did he is done away from to feel our TV commended it'd be great to have a Broncos community kind of elevate. What he's been able to do off to feel. And I think he's going to be a pretty good player on the field. Now route three which you got for me is interesting because the Chicago Bears landed David Montgomery from Iowa State. And I absolutely love this picking maybe maybe my favorite pick of the draft. And it's because it's because it's defeat. It is the match between a hybrid running back a guy who is a terrific runningback being able to run inside and outside. He can catch the ball out the backfield. He's tough as nails and shows an impasse protection in an offense. They Matt Nagy has built that really can make running back star player. We saw what they offense didn't Kansas City when Kareem hunt was playing it. And you think about a guy like David Montgomery having the same opportunities. I mean, I think this guy can be a fantastic play. And that doesn't take anything away from Tariq Owen who I think would be a supplemental or company. Please. But I believe this guy. David Montgomery could be kind of like a David joss type player for him. David Johnson from getting to wait at he's able to kind of get down and do things as a run an receiver. I think it's going to be an awesome Tanta back there. And to be honest with you, I didn't have a first round pick. The second round pick, David Montgomery, sir. I pick and it came in round three L believable that he's there for them and they were in under the radar. Honorable mention if you will best offenses draft for me, which we're going to get to here shortly with their pick of David Montgomery, and then Riley Ridley the that. I mean, those two really good offense players that you get in the middle rounds. They're my favorite third round pick though. I mean, it's it's the most patriot pick ever for sure she's win of it from Michigan the edge rusher going to the patriots, by the way that you know, he's he's related to Dave damasec, his mom and damaged X mom or cousins check showed at the picture yesterday at his bar. Mitzvah Greenwich says mom checks for mitzvah. Yeah. Does win of it. You know that I think he said he reached out the him. But he hasn't heard back yet. So it's been mentioned to my. But I don't know if he quite knows the whole story. You know, who Dave damasec is. You'd have to ask chase win of it. So I'm not sure. Okay. All right. We'll find it that we'll find out. But I mean, the key is a more athletic Rodney vich, and we saw how productive Robin individuals for the patriots. I mean, they're going to be able to do whatever they want with him. And he's going to be totally okay with it. In fact, I think the very first his very first action as a patriot was to say, I gotta check with coach to see if I can answer this. I mean, he's already right falls right in line. That you have to come to operate with great pig. Great fit kind of reminds me of Nicorette. So I I believe it absolutely works. Okay. What you got in round for round four airs on a cardinals taken Hakim Butler. Why resilient from Iowa State? We talked about it on path the other day. I believe that the cardinals have really kind of created a basketball team around calamari a mix us some guys that can fly down to wing some big guys that can post up and Hakim bull is the guy that is opposed to player that should be dominant player down in the red zone. His size his length is leaving ability. The fact that he also has enough speed to take the top off average twenty two yards per catch. His final season, I stayed. I just think this is a nice fit for them and for him to have an opportunity to learn behind layer FitzGerald, how to be a pro how to run rouse this should benefit him where I think he has an opportunity to being really really good player. I like this pick more than I like the Denney Isabella pick second round for the cardinals at wideout. I, you know, knowing they've already got Christian Kirk there. I I liked that. Now, you've got a guy in the outside here in Keene Butler that kind of gives you another one of those roles. So definitely like that pick picking the cardinals. I mean, you know, where I was going with my favorite pick. Mom, man. Wes, Martin ofensive linemen Indiana now going to go protect Wayne Haskins for the next ten years. I mean, come on a Guinea better not talking about a guy with almost forty bench reps. He will not get overpowered the interior. I'll just I'll just like one day I show up at work and there's a package for you right now. And I could only wish that is to candy. Candy striper candy-stripe fool, Indiana warm-up, did you can just walk around like pretending to be Bobby. Knight raised it a play there because you are at the heart believe it man, you better leaving. But in all honesty, I mean, we're talking about matchups rookie and rookie. I mean, west Martin and Dexter Lawrence going head to head here. Twice a year over the Redskins in the giants. Dumb excited. I'm excited for west. He's a good guy. He's a good player. Kind of like, Dan Feeney was definitely can get it done in the interior for the Redskins. So moving onto round five this. This was a bit of a shocker bidding. Bit of a shocker bit Biggs of rise. Cleveland Browns grabbing MAC Wilson linebacker from Alabama in the fifth round fifth row to throw MAC Watson guy that we had mocked initially a first round pick. And a lot of times we kind of settled day to Abia a second or third round pick the fact that he goes in the fifth round as surprising based on the way to do played at Alabama. We thought he could be a guy that would be a really really solid player in pass coverage thought he has some intriguing skills in terms of being able to run and chase. There was some Scotto Buddhism conversation about his fit, and maybe maturity those things. But he was too good of a player in my estimation. To to to make it to the fifth round Cleveland school, some up Cleveland, John Dorsey and Alonzo Highsmith and Elliott Wolff. Those guys value productive players out think devalue that Mak Wilson brings as a productive player that also has some versatility and some leadership skills and some awareness and instincts. He's going to have a chance to believe. But in the year, maybe kind of crack and sneak into the starting lineup. Look I again, I absolutely stunned that he lasted fifth round. What how about eighteen picks later? Final pick of the fifth round. A man coal Holcomb a tarheel from UNC come on going to the rise. I know. I'll try not to be a Homer because the risk is had two of my guys. They took Bryce love into fourth. Yeah. Yeah. Holcomb into fifth. And so what I decided I was going to excuse myself. I was going back up out of the Redskins and cloak, and I was gonna let go so that's why I didn't Bacall Hoke and going from Carolina into fifth round. Give you a bonus on now. Winter he goes agent it. Yeah. She kind of text me and told me that aid is a lot of buzz around. And we saw him at EastWest Ryan game. He played really. Well, did he tested they realize a high level? Okay. And so that's coming. That's cool and believe rich Eisen signed off our draft coverage by asking raise your hand. If you're on the monitor had a player picked in the draft DJ, if you're listening at home Bucky, and I are raising her hand. Oh, yeah. Has a high yours are not your hands are not raised. No. I'm surprised. Jalen more better drafted it. Next year. Maybe they can find. Let's move into around six who you got Tennessee titans. Oh, wait. I didn't get my round five. Oh. Get my body. I like this pick here money or a warrior from Penn State who kind of got the low down from from his head coach James Franklin when he's down at the senior bowl. And yeah, he gave him a ringing endorsement as you would expect from his head coach. But this is an interesting player for the lions I feel like this long big corner. Six almost six two or actually just over six hundred a half two hundred five pounds. Rainfall four seven at the combine nice move and chosen ball skills. Watching him. I'll tell he's pretty solid. He reminded me a lot of Richard Sherman. Yeah. In terms of his ability to to kind of saw shuffling play some zone coverage being able to play man he had that game clinching interception against deejays al-matar early in the year. And so good player. There you give them around five and especially in Detroit where they're trying to make over they mentality. When it comes to the toughness a good fit for him. So maybe you know, if you go back to patriots lower from talking about patriots in the mid west hair, Matt Patricia like to Leib ish in some qualities with with some physicality and some size there at corner put him out opposite dairy sleigh. It'll be an interesting pick there for the lines. I also liked them getting Austin Bryant, by the way in the round before that. On a good player. Underrated donate Clemson deal on really solid player. Move around six. David long. Yes. Tennessee titans. David long big two of defense plea to year linebacker from West Virginia. Another great pick because Mike is trying to do. He's trying to get enough players that can play on the edge. You can give him some pass rush ability to give them some blitz ability. David long can do those things I like his f- lettuces him his versatility kinda surprised that he made it all the way down here to the six round. But for the titans. Great pig. Great fit. I love that as well. I thought the titans made some some really good picks starting with Jeffrey Simmons number one overall for them. And then I also like the money Hooker in the fourth round, Wisconsin. What does it say about the big twelve though that they're big twelve different players? Six. It's not a good thing when they have balls flying all over the yard. But at some point they stopped somebody. And maybe it just we didn't look at we go back and look at the raiders picks. Here. Do you remember in the booth of the senior bowl two years ago may ox up there, and they bring Mason Rudolph in and may I ask is just crushing Mason Rudolph because of the big twelve defenses that he played against like he had any control. It's not his and I'm like, Mike, take it easy. Did Mike pick any big twelve defensive players. That's what I that's all. I want to know. Here we go. Max Crosby Johnson. I Quin Bill bell no writing. Nope. No, no, big twelve. So it didn't expand any. Makes sense my favorite sixth round pick. I got to meet him down at the manning passing academy trace McSorley out of Penn State to the ravens their last pick of the draft. They didn't have a seventh rounder. This was phenomenal. I I don't know where he's gonna play or how he's gonna play. But they're going to figure it out. I think so, you know, for me I love to pick a love what he does. I think it just as to this full commitment that they have to the read option game does go into with Lamar Jackson now in the quarterback room you have three quarterbacks wedding. This system trace McSorley? It was a guy that was recruited as a safety as well. As a cornerback as a quarterback coming out of high school. And so they have versatility that f- lettuce, isn't that toughness that he's been able to display it's a really really good fit in Baltimore. No question. And I think John Harbaugh was like, I don't know we met playing everywhere, you know. So that's I think that's a really cool weapon. Cool tool for you have their down at the bottom. End of the draft moving into around seventy going back to the Panthers which got here. I'm going back to the depends. I'm going with Terry Godwin from George. This is a five star year for Georgia receiver saw star crew coming out of high school the guy that also played baseball. So it speaks to his ball skills. But for what he could potentially do for the Carolina Panthers as a returner as another speed demon on the outside as they're beginning to remake this wide receiver core and put more speed on the field around Cam Newton. He's going to have an opportunity to compete and get a little spot weaking Ernst and time getting a rotation scouts, by the way. Look at that stuff. When you God own was a five school Byron coward. Of course, went to the fifth round with the patriots. He was a number one overall recruit does that factor in where scouts kind of look at that at least a little bit. So it's funny because I had this conversation. I had with Josh Snyder of the Seattle Seahawks. We're going back and forth. And I was telling my experiences at the opening, and I was like man if I was back in the business. I would encourage everybody to dig up those. Oh. Recruiting lists and just trying to figure out where did all the five stars. Go just to see. Because at some point the way the recruiting rankings are now guys don't typically miss. I would just like to track them down. And just kinda see where those guys are. Because I think it's at least taken a flyer on guys as a free agent to kinda see if they cause if dad enough talent at one point to be considered one of the guys in the country. There may be something that you're going to cover. That's interesting. So Georgia, Ohio State, really good wide receiver classes this year. And I'm going to go to Ohio State for my favorite seventh round pick, Mike Weber, boys. Ryan Weber was a guy who was eventually replaced in the feature role by JK Dobbins once once he got onto campus. But Webber was a productive player at Ohio State. And now he's going in where there's another productive Ohio State running back Ezekiel Elliott there with Dallas and just kind of bolstering that backfield a little bit. I think he could he could provide some nice depth there for him. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. Can't provide some dip and with Zeke Elliott kind of nearing the end of his rookie contract. And there may be some conversation about how much they pay them. Do they pay them bringing on Mike Weber and also Tony pilot two guys that can maybe crack and fight and compete for the number two spot behind him. There's a future for those guys. We'll see how much of how much potential and production might wills able display in training camp and into free season. He's we'll get every opportunity to be into mix. No question. Okay. So that you don't want. Let's give while it was on the high state kick. Let me give one little bonus favorite priority free agent, Johnny Dixon, Johnny Dixon. I knew he had the sa- medical issues. Maybe we'll kept him out. But I was surprised him. I didn't take a seventh-round flyer on him especially after how how well he didn't approach routes as good specialty here, especially he's a good player fortunate. He'd been banged up a little bit during this time. But man, he's a good player came on like game buses and we're seeing now in the league twenty percent of the league is comprised of undrafted. Yeah. Look man, you need a chance. So we'll see if he gets his chance to make it. Okay. Let's move on and finish up. This episode by doing our best offenses in defensive drafts. So taking a look at the draft class as a whole and separating it out offense and defense finding out who had the best offensive draft class this year. Bookie who gets the nod for you. Then for me goes to the San Francisco forty Niners and Ephron mentioned deebo Samuel Jalen Hurd, cayden Smith, those guys to me, I think have a chance to be contributors for the forty eight one deebo Samuel Jalen Hurd, versatile playmakers guys that can give you all kinds of production under perimeter into passing game. Cadence myth is another from Stanford. I felt like was a little underrated. But I think he's going to have an opportunity we have seen Stanford has produced tied in after tied in when it comes to the league. I've recently been surpassed by Iowa because I had to personnel side ends became Smith is another in a long line of Stanford tight ends. They find a way to the league. We'll see if he's able to stay because if he sticks. This is a very very productive class for the forty Niners. That's a good one. And you get the punter. Mitch wish now ski which I think technically falls on the defensive side of things but could bail out the offense a little bit there. You'll give us a credit to. Okay, we'll give us a credit. All right. I'm going to say this is kind of interesting one for me. The eagles were my favorite offensive draft here. Number one. They trade up and get Andre Dillard, arguably the best tackle they get him at number twenty two does a good class. They come back and get miles Sanders. Who's definitely a top five running back this year say which one about the strength of this class as a whole, but a guy with really only one year tread on the tires, and it was a productive year after he got out of saquon Barkley shadow and Philly needs some backs. Yeah, they got Jordan Howard. But you know, they they run a stable Baxter there. And he could be another piece of that puzzle for him JJ or Sega Whiteside went talking. Red zone threats big time at fourteen touchdowns last year asked and answered we know he can get it done and put the ball in the paint. They're also like Clayton Thorson. You know, I'm a big Nate Sud field fan. So obviously our backup quarterback there and Philly, but Clayton really impressed me when he joined us on path to the draft. I think he is he's going to be a really good guy for that room. And kind of help them fill out that's going to be a really nice quarterback room there with wince Saad felt in Thorson. And so that really kind of caught my at four four hundred fix office of players. And I want to say is courtesy their next next man up. I mean in their position to take over for people that previous spot Audrey dealer for Jason Peters. Mal Sanders for Jordan Howard, anyway, Jay or so you'll Wieser potentially for. Agla all Sean, depending on how long that lasts so nice picks because it gives them a year to kind of Richard and put themselves in a position to carve out bigger roles. Okay. Let's flip to the defensive side of all what you got there. So I went with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers and some of this is due to the quality of players day got. But also the depth in the number of defensive players that he took you talk about a team to to them count. One two three four five. We've of kicker six seven seven hundred eighty picks defensive guys Devon white is to head Lonner gives them automatic leader. In the middle of the defense. Then you get two Cornerbacks and Sean bunny Djamil dean fast explosive who have opportunities to kind of jump into makes and Todd Bowles defense. Anthony, Nelson kinda comes into the mix and interior Beck ner at the very end of the draft. So you talk about really committing all of the resources to try and improve. That defense does what Tempe book in Israel to do. So. They went to corners in the second round right dip. Dip. They went to corners in the second round last year Carlton Davis and j Stewart story. Oh, yeah. But and then you go back to Vernon Hargraves who they took three years ago. They take it five corners of the first two rows. And they don't feel good about the position to vote. That is the only way that you could come back and take those two. And you think you could make an argument that, you know, Todd Bowles may want something a little bit different out of that position. So they won't back differently. They want to build up to death or you may want to make it a very very competitive situation and see what transpires However, I can tell you. When you commit to second round pick those guys are going to be there. They're going to be there. And so my favorite defensive draft. This might come as a bit of a surprise the giants and look. Yeah. Maybe you to look. Honestly, go ahead. What's your saying? In in in looking at that. Because so much conversation has centered around Daniel Jones Lawrence. I don't know if people look beyond that at the rest of their class, and look, yeah, you can make an argument that you know, Dexter Lawrence might have been a little bit of a reach at seventeen to down player. Maybe they get a little more pass rush out of him and keep them on the field. But you know, you you you trade Damon Harrison last year snacks Arison. But I think you've got a nice another nice piece of that rotation there in Lawrence. And then you come back Danbury Baker who might be the best corner in the class. He might be might end up in a a really good starting cornerback for the giants. And then you come back. You don't have your second round. And you come back, and you get o'shane imminence as your Ed rusher because we know the sex through sex ABC's like a Yanni Ken Gakugei who kind of fell into that second third round rusher. Mold. So, you know, I think that's got potential to be a really good defensive draft. So it does have potential. So let's do this. Because we kind of did this on the show a lot of times. We'll be doing in clusters who would you rather have? And so you could have Daniel gills in o'shane Zimmer says or you could have Josh Allen. And we'll Greer who would you rather have? Because I tell you if you third world looking at quarterbacks, right? It was it was only rear we're looking at. We'll we're or went to four four. Ryan finley. So who are you more comfortable with when it comes down to it? And I think you like to say I got the quarterback that I want and I gotta pass rush who has a proven track record and the three four defense of being able to get to the quarterback. Maybe we came out on the top side of. Well, I think you would you know, if you follow DJ's logic. You would have to say it's Daniel Jones ins imminence rather than because you'd rather take the quarterback that you feel this about this. And I'm not saying pass rushers grow on trees. Like DJ was saying with the running backs the other day, but. Interesting over you've seen a number of patch versions come outside of the first round and have success. And so the odds would tell you that you more likely to find a Pash Russia didn't a quarterback outside of the first one. And that's pretty much going to do it for us. But sorry, I got slightly distracted when we were going through seventh round picks because of my tweet deck here it popped up in you can appreciate this coach Brooks Melba high school dropping football yet to draw from a they dropped from eleven man football. That means they're doing eight minutes able play people play eight man football Muslim school. They play. Really? This is a weird thing to look at. 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Early QB Rankings Part 2, Smokin Happy

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Early QB Rankings Part 2, Smokin Happy

"Hey for Glenn. You know, you can get the UD K preordained for the absolute lowest price of the season. But maybe you didn't know that we're running the ultimate fantasy footballers prize pack right now, if you preorder before April twenty eighth year automatically gonna get entered into possibly win and one of those spots in the two thousand nineteen listener league, maybe can win to customize jerseys from fantasy champs or get on board with VIP tour experience, we're hitting the road. Again, you're gonna win to tickets are going to get to ask a question. Sit up front hang out, shake our hands kiss them babies. Do all of that fun stuff? Head over to ultimate draft kit dot com and get yours preordered before April twenty eighth as well. As the second Tampa Bay Buccaneers. And you're listening to the fantasy football podcast. Well to the fantasy footballers podcast coming to you from Christine option dot com studios with your hose, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore and Mike, right? Ronald Ronald Ronald Ronald Ronald that intro. It was impressing the general manager of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers Ronald Jones, thanks for intro in the show Ronald de LA to run. Well, today's going to be a great episode of the fancy football. I fight cast. We already know that. Now, here's the thing in Jason's putting his hate blockers back on. I mean, if this is the Ronald Jones time, I haven't seen those in quite some time. What I love what I'm going. What I'm going to love the most about today is going to be all of our discussions on. James Winston that will be the greatest part in a piece of that puzzle. Is Bruce Arians probably huge piece based on Jason's rankings and Ronald Jones plays for the very same. Bruce Arians and the very same team. That has said that he's the most impressive player. So far fans L, we'll see I look I that was ingest, right? Like Ronald Jones had an awful awful season. But you hope much like head coach of the Cincinnati Bengals Zack Miller. Zac, Taylor said today about John Ross clean slate. Fresh start you hope that Ronald Jones gets that having not been drafted by the, you know, the same regime, or you know, the same head coach. So Ronald Jones are some hype train news yesterday just about how he's impressing coaches in. Jason has historically been Ronald Jones hater. Yeah. I look I didn't think he was going to translate well to the NFL when he was one of the highest ranked rookies last year, so far so good. But it it is too early. I mean, you know, there was a time when we didn't like necessarily the the early rookie, and maybe even sophomore seasons from the likes of devante Freeman and Davante Adams if you're at a on us not named Ivanovo start. Yeah. This is Ronald we have the early quarterback ranking show today part too. If you can resist the urge if you listened to us enough this offseason, we'll help you. But if you can resist the urge to draft one of the upper echelon quarterbacks in waste the draft pick. Really high in your draft. If you can resist that urge these are the guys who are going to be deciding between these are the guys who are going to be looking at getting value on in your fantasy. I saw a comment, and this was really this is a really common thought a really common experience. I'm sure a lot of people listening or watching on YouTube have this exact same experience they say this year this year, I'm going to wait, and I'm gonna draft my quarterback late and every single year round six seven, you know, it just gets a little too. There's there's someone there that fell a little bit. And so they they draft their quarterback in round six round seven because they think they're getting great value. And they're like, no, this is the I'm not going to do that don't do it. So here's the thing when you're in the grocery store and you're walking down the cereal aisle. So scared right now to get to the back where the value is where the bags are you have to go past all the name brand. You got Honey smacks. You got fruit. Loops you got sent him in toes, Russky charm. They're looking you in the face. And there is the exact same thing is the worst analogy you've ever given. What you're saying is drafting thoroughly quarterbacks. No get you're telling the world you need an early quarterback. Because otherwise, you're going to end up with the garbage version of cinnamon toast crunch. Yeah. I get I get where you were going, Mike. But the truth is, I I don't buy those battles the truth is I don't buy the bags either. But the truth is, I know what they taste like, and it's exactly the same as the other cereal. But the the cartoon character on the box tricks me. The food takes to the fact, I okay, okay. Listen today show. It's going to be a doozy. James winston. He will consume some of our time here, very soon. A reminder find us on Twitter at the F F ballers the websites. The fantasy football dot com. You heard it in the intro, but the NFL drafts a week away. 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Make you feel my oh, it's still mixed me. Feel gross. Was it? The was it. The the voice was it. His Bill Elliott impression was the shirtless nature. Wasn't the three degrees. We do not have enough time in this show to break down that minute in the have video I have gone full uproot or film of this you coming out with Bod cast the breakdown that I probably should I do an entire season on that video of of why every. Everything is just terrible unless you're a Seattle Seahawks fan than I'd be very you. Don't know cels there what we're talking about. They know what we're talking to everybody listening has seen or knows of Russell Wilson comes out with this Instagram post at whatever in the night or morning, a Glock and he's just like it was money o clock. It was money. Oh clock. Yeah. Laying in bed shirtless with Sierra and his chains on ended up the the weirdest. Like, hey, there was there wasn't a care in that man's mind. No, he's good for the next. Ever. Yeah. He doesn't matter. If he's handicapping the franchise, but whatever look highest played player in football. Mary's Thomas one year deal with the patriots. Do we care or do you need me to hit this, bud? You care slightly as it is the patriots. But Damiri it's Thomas has equal chance to me of being the wide receiver to on this team is equal chance to be cut. Yeah. This off season Eric decker? But isn't that the nice situation here is that he he should be valuable if he's healthy if he's not healthy, the they're not gonna play around with them. They're not going to carry them into the season. So we we should have a definitive answer coming into you know, into the season. Also, I mean, how many of these wide receivers? Do we need to get excited about that? They've joined the patriots to have them do nothing. Yeah. Bruce Ellington signed earlier in the off season Murray. Cyrus you'll rather have. Yeah. Mari serious. I'd rather have Bruce Ellington Doug Marrone. Jags head coach is good news for four net owners came out and said that he's not going to face any team discipline stemming from his arrest last week. That's good news. Doug Marrone was like we've all been there. No. He literally said that Doug Miro literally said I've been there. Here's the thing. Doug marrone? No. We have not all been. Yeah. Yeah. The NFL schedule will be released by the time this podcast is released. What a schedule it. It was. Oh, it's a great those that prime time match up week eight. Yep. Unbelievable. So yeah, we were recording this show slightly before the release of the NFL scheduled. That's exciting. You've got the NFL schedule released. You got the NFL draft next week. You can have rookie shows you gonna have winners and losers in the draft coming up and all of it in the fantasy football context for your team. So you're ready to go. That was today's news and notes we want to get right into the early quarterback rankings the rest of them and be sure to switch your dynasty league over to sleeper. Now before I hit this quarterback button, which I am going to keep my eyes open when I hit the drops today. So they should be Accu. You're a coward. But we we got a little message from dad. Okay. And really it's not from dad. It's from dad and the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration. Okay. Look this message right now. It's a simple one. Maybe it's common sense. We all know what it's like to be on the road to be in a hurry to be listening to a podcast. I mean, a lot of you probably listening right now, you're on the road. But the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration wants to let you know, if you're in a hurry, you're running late and you find yourself at a railway crossing, please. Wait, please wait for a train. If the signals are going in the trains not there yet. 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That was our consensus top ten rankings at the quarterback position. And we can start right here right now. Big debate. Jameis Winston comes in at number eleven no not because of Mike and Mike, and I have met thirteen which honestly, truthfully. I think it's probably too high. Oh, really, but Jason has him at seven I think that's probably too high. So let's talk about James Winston Winston last year in eleven games two hundred and forty four attempts or I'm sorry. Two hundred forty four completions on three hundred seventy eight passes nineteen touchdowns just under. Three thousand yards ran for almost three hundred yards. And this story about James Winston is all about the weapons he has in the head coach. Jason you love it. I'm excited for the prospect of what he could do. I don't for a second imagine that he doesn't carry risk. I mean, he could very well by the end of the year not be a quarterback. But I believe I'd be a quarterback that like not be the starting quarterback for a franchise. But I believe that he will have a successful year. We've we've talked about my love for Chris Godwin this year. Mike Evans is in his prime. We've talked up the potential breakout for OJ Howard. My also my love for Justin Watson as a sleeper. So I mean, if all of those things, right if this wide receiving corps is a corps that I love this team is one that still projects to have a bad defense at a great offense. They're in a division full of great offenses. I mean, I it would be disingenuous of me to say. Well, then this doesn't benefit Jameis Winston. But it's not it's not narrative driven, which is what you guys I think there's this. This mentality of we like the weapons and Bruce Arians is coming in. So I just love James. He's going to be great James has done. It James has already performed as a top guy. Just not on a season. And I went, and I looked and I broke down wise. So let's just look at last year suspended the first three games comes in relief to different times goes out. Once it was really wacky season for cutter led Tampa Bay Buccaneers because he's scrambling for his job trying to do everything he can to find some magic potion overall the Tampa. I mean, if you take James Winston plus Ryan Fitzpatrick, and you just added their stats together. Like a normal quarterback play sixteen games. They would have been the number two. They would have been behind Patrick Mahomes ahead of Matt Ryan just from those stats last year. But if you take out Fitzpatrick, and you just look at the games, I went through and looked at the games that James played the whole game. You started. He finished whatever there were eight of them last year and in those eight games, he averaged. Basically about twenty one points a game in standard scoring which was a head of dishonor Watson ahead of Andrew luck. I mean, those are great numbers. And now he's got a good offense. A a coach in that. Fitzpatrick is gone. There's no looking over your shoulder. So I am calling my shot here that I believe James has the potential to be a top five quarterback. And I'm not worried about the risk like early running backs. I am risk of verse. If I'm wrong and the guy gets injured or the guy, you know, you know, doesn't catch the ball in the projection of those early running backs. I can't just turn around it pick one up off of waivers. But I go I take the risk with quarterback and say look James could have a true breakout? Here he's got the potential and I'm drafting him super late note. People aren't excited about Jamesy finishes the quarterback twenty two last year. So I'm going to scoop him up with one of my last picks have the potential that he has a breakout. He's succeeded in the NFL, and it has a lot of things going for him. That's my argument for James. Winston lot of that makes sense. And obviously with him at seven though, you're projecting that kind of a season out of him as in your rankings like that last year the bucks finished with the season with the most passing yards as a team in general, Bruce Arians has had a lot of success. What's really funny about Winston to me is that even if they hadn't played together the the comp for me would Jameis Winston would have been Ryan Fitzpatrick, historically, and when you look back at after Fitzpatrick had this successful season in New York with the jets, and he had Brandon Marshall and Eric decker? I see some similarities to him coming in Winston coming in this year. You got God. When you've got Evans and the excitement now the problem with James Winston with Ryan Fitzpatrick is that there's pretty much no quarterback more prone to turnovers and mistakes than James Winston last year. He only started I think nine games and was had the fifth most interceptions in football. He has historically been a massive interception. Thrower bumbler. And when you look. Aarons and you want to if you want to go to the narrative, and you want to explain both sides of it. Carson Palmer had a career resurgence under Bruce Arians of intially in his first season under Bruce Arians. He threw twenty four Hodge downs twenty interceptions under Bruce Arians. It is a situation where areas wants you to drive the ball down the field. He wants you to be cognizant of all these different elements in the offense. And he's got the weapons to do it. I have no doubt. The Jameis Winston will have monster games under Bruce Arians. My biggest concern is the turnover pro nature, and what could you could get every third game. Could be a classic Ryan Fitzpatrick type of game historically wear fire fire. I I right. I would wanna wanna stay in the game of thrones theme here. It's a song of ice and fire for James Winston out his career. And he hasn't done you made the argument he's done it. But you also then said he's never done it on a season. He has never thrown for thirty touchdowns in his career. There is risk. There's definitely risking. I get it. He's a value. Who's a shot? Everybody's going to pick some guy to take a shot on. Yeah. I would say the the risk just comes down to his draft price. If you're drafting him in the double digit rounds, I think the risk is absolute minimal. And could there have been a transition for James Winston because you're right? He was a turnover machine, but one he got he got his job back week eleven and he kept it through the end of the season. He threw thirteen touchdowns and four interceptions across those games. I mean, it was a good stretch. It was it was on pace for twenty nine touchdowns of eight hundred. Right. Every not Jamison. It was the best. Jameis Winston that. We've seen play in the NFL. But during that time, he was averaging. Eighteen and a half points per game which puts him on that that for the season would have been quarterback eleven. Yeah. That that's not that great. Now, we're into which to to the defense of that the the margin between like Matt Ryan and that eighteen and a half points per game. It's very very small. So I'm not I don't think Jason's crazy for having him. We've been here for though we had this exact same end of season projection for him last season. Right. But then, but then he was suspended for three games. So everything kind of blew up in the off season it did. And so I'm sticking with what I believe two years ago. He's not suspended. He doesn't have a backup that could come in. And and if you look at those those last games where he played very well. But it was still like quarterback eleven not really smoke and happy one of the things I like about Winston gotta be smoking half. You gotta be having. If you're not happy, you're smoking sat one of the things I like James Winston is that you can you can figure out win to play him. You know, he he shows up for those crazy games where it's like, oh, he's he's going up against the great offense. And if he's playing a great defense. I'm not so much like, for instance, nobody in the world last year. Played Jameis Winston on the road against Baltimore for that game. Because Baltimore was on fire. Baltimore held him to four fantasy points that game that was atrocious. If you take that game out where nobody's going to start him. Anyways. His fantasy points per game are much higher than the quarterback. I think people should realize, we're exhausting. The Jameis Winston topic in part because this is going to be a shock to the system to have them at eleven. I mean, Jason's ranking are consensus ranking puts them at eleven so it's worth looking at both sides and a number twelve is well good friend of mine. Josh Allen, just down. I have matured twelve Jason hasn't been fifteen Mike at nine. Yup. He is to me. The most interesting fantasy football quarterback there is because there are so many things to love and so many things to hate about Josh Allen. He goes deep more than anybody in football by a wide margin. He goes deep over twenty percent of the time the next closest was like in the fourteen fifteen percent range, Mahomes, isn't even he's like at number four. Josh Allen went deep that many times. But here's the thing worse, completion percentage and football. But also third lowest passage him. So if he had a bad game it was a bad game. If he had a good game. It was a good game. Not throwing the ball a ton pressured like crazy and still put up a monster fantasy week season. Mike, you haven't the highest. Yes. And I love him. So let me paint the picture of Josh Allen last year is rookie year. He never surpassed two hundred and forty five passing yards. He had a ten to twelve interception. Touchdown to interception ratio. That's bad four games. Under fifty percent of passing completion fifty three percent on the year. But we play fantasy football. And once he returned from his injuries week twelve through seventeen he was the number two quarterback putting up nearly twenty four points per game. And he was only point two points per game behind the Shawn Watson who was the number one quarterback through that stretch because in four of six games yet ninety five or more rushing yards. He had a rushing touchdown in four of six games. This is he is Tim tebow. I like him a lot more than James Winston for for a lot of reasons. Not only just how he finished last year. But I see so much upside in what Josh Allen is going to do. Now, the completion percentage guys, I'm going to be honest with you. I I will be super surprised if that improves this here, and I don't think it now it'll improve from fifty three but like fifty four maybe we all have goals fifty five the goal. But here here's why if you look hit the worst receivers in all the foot. Football since twenty sixteen in terms of reception percentage, we talked about Michael Thomas seventy seven percent from drew Brees the two worst in all of people. They jones. Yeah. I mean who's already on the roster. John Brown last year. John Brown was bad John Brown caught like forty something percent of his passes last year. He was that just the nature of John brownie gets targeted sixteen yards down the field. And here's John Brown going to a place where he likes to throw the ball deep. I don't think the completion percentage is important for Josh Allen is a fantasy owner at all now. Call Beasley had one of the highest reception. Percentages and football, maybe helps a little bit. It has to change for Josh Allen to still be grants. And if it does change with the weapons he's greater so it's for me. It's Tim tvos ex. He's far more Cam Newton than he is Tim tebow to me because he's he's very athletic. I think I expect them to continue to run the way he did towards the the second half of the season. It's gross. I don't like it. I don't I don't like the fact that I'm real happy to play a quarterback who completed fifty three percent of his passes. But here we are. Because this is the way that fantasy is scored. Yeah. So I haven't down at fifteen. I'm not nearly as bullish as you guys on Josh Allen. I certainly see the upside my reason is this obviously Josh Allen his fancy production comes down to his legs, not his arm. He's not going to be throwing three hundred and fifty yards game three tugs. That's not what he does. But you know, he can I mean over the last stretch when he was back in the game. He was was he the quarterback one or the quarterback to? I mean, he was to find shirt by joints. Right. I mean, he was unbelievable. And that all was because of his rushing. And so I wanna make a point though, he lost. You you need to remember. He lost all of his weapons. Kelvin Benjamin was his number one. They got rid of between injury and the trades. He basically was down to who. Did he lose? Well, he lost Kelvin Benjamin. I would say wasn't a part of that end of season that he's saying he ran war because the passing weapons at the beginning. The beginning saying that because he didn't have passing weapons. Yes. He ran. Yes. And now look at what they did this off season they went and they got him every passing weapon they could mediocre or not they they're trying to make sure that he can throw better. Right. Look at the beginning of the year. What they wanted to do Josh Allen. He was on pace a sixteen game pace for four hundred and thirteen rushing yards. That's that's pretty good. That's really, I mean, that's nice. That's going to be top three or four in the league. But that's what they wanted out of him to rush. The last part when he was that top in quarterback. Do you know his pace he was on pace for twelve hundred and sixty nine rushing yards because he was more of a running back then he was a quarterback similar Lamar Jackson. But I don't believe that's what they want out of him. If they did. I'd be like, oh, he's my quarterback three. But what they want? They were headed as a team what they want to feed out his way. And that's the way that Josh Allen is going to have to win games that will be figured out quickly. Lamar Jackson at third. Thirteen we all have them about the same spot eleven twelve eleven Lamar Jackson. I was disappointed because from the time he took over. I was expecting to get a great performance from him. We never really did. Fifteen twenty sixteen eighteen sixteen sixteen twenty six. Look, we know he runs the football. The story is very similar to that of Josh Allen. I mean, they both were the top two runners in at the position one was Mark Jackson. Number two was Josh Allen. In terms of yards at the quarterback position. Both guys have to learn how to throw the football to to give you sustained great performances on a week to week basis. Lamar Jackson problem was fumbles. Why do we like or or why do you like Jackson over Allen, Mike, are I guess both of you are not my? Oh, no Jackson. Yeah. I like Jackson more than Allen because they had designed runs for him on you know, every third play my worry with Lamar Jackson is whether he can sustain that and not get injured. But while he is not injured. I know for sure they want him to run the ball far more than I believe buffalo wants. Josh sounds run the ball. They've redesigned the offense four Lamar Jackson this year. So what you saw last year was a really safe quarterback every week you were happy with Lamar Jackson and that was with him coming in the middle of a rookie year. You know, he was started behind flacco. Now, he's got an offseason an offense designed around him. I think he for sure takes a step forward. Now. He's been working on his accurate. That's really story. I mean, it was really I was so impressed when I saw quarterback saying. I want to be even better at quarterback. And I was like, yeah. Sure. That's really good Lamar. But yeah, I mean the way that I see it. He was safe. He didn't have any big boom games. But he certainly can I think he takes a step forward. And I'm more confident in the rushing totals from our Jackson, and I'm not really worried about the injuries. Because as soon as he's injured whatever I'll pivot, and I'll go to a different quarterback off of waivers versus you're not gonna get minibus from from Jackson or Allen. Yeah. I mean, the no whenever you have rushing. We gotta fix it. See, I'm I'm more. I would say I'm more confident in the Mars rushing total, but I'm more confident in Josh Allens rushing touchdowns. So that's why I like Allen a little bit more. It's funny though, Jake is Lamar Jackson on the basis of rushing yards. Led them to the playoffs and winning a bunch of games in a row playing that style of football. Yeah. And that it was almost like it was valuable for you on the playoffs though. Well, okay. But I'm just saying that the the weeks that his players went up for running. That's what he does Jared. I felt more comments after our first quarterback show about a quote unquote, disrespect of Jared Goff in his then I think any other quarterback last year. He finished as the QB seven thirty two touchdowns twelve interceptions. He was a QB to until points from weeks two through eleven during the wondrous run of the Los Angeles Rams after the bye Gulf was the QB twenty six now a lot of factors in play allot injuries. Todd Gurley Cooper cop knocked out. He didn't even he didn't play the full games at the end of the season. So maybe throw out kind of the QB twenty six kind of distortion field had a real bad Super Bowl. We can blame. Sean McVeigh can blame playcalling girly same things. We don't know. If Cooper cups going to be back for week one. The latest report says they're hoping, but I. I could I could take a nicer report in that. I would prefer to hear better report than that. So look Jared Goff. I've got him at fifteen. Yeah. Your reason he's in the shows is Andy's ranking bowl Jason. And I have him as a top ten quarterback. Oh instead of being in the first show. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. I I didn't like what I saw at the end of the year from Jared Goff. And I wasn't. I'm not super confident in the girly resurgence and without girly. I think golf is real bad. So I think girly coming back being one hundred percent. Dow will probably just my ranking Jared Goff quite a bit. I need to know that this offense is gonna run like it ran in the first eight games and not the second half of the season playoffs. So if he's got all his weapons and girls one hundred percent Jared Goff is going to functionally be affected. Yeah. It's one of those things where I am. You know, I I don't I don't love Cooper Cup as much because he's coming off the. Injury. If he wasn't I would you be my number one Rams wide receiver. But I really like him. I love Robert woods. I love Cooper Cup. It's it's for anchor and Cook's is very similar to my James argument. If all of those players, I believe are going to have really good seasons than the quarterback necessarily should perform in. And we you the for last year. Yeah. He will be he will be an upper half quarterback. No matter what I don't know. If there's a situation where a guy safer to be in that realm. I think kind of the inverse of your argument, I don't really see Goff being a top five guy. So because of that I would rather take a shot on Josh Allen. Sure, I think I'm in Goth is safe though. I'm I'm completely bought airy safe. I'm bought into the offense. Even if it's if it's somebody else running the show at at the running back position. I think that they will get. Close close maybe is too much, but they will get strong production from the running back to keep the offense moving. Jared Goff was a stud for fantasy for over half of the season. And you can look at the numbers where I usually I well the touchdown touchdown regression has to come for this quarterback except the past two years, Jerry. God's running back has led the league in rushing touchdowns and Gough still gets to put up. He did struggle without girly though, he struggled without the running game working at a high capacity. I got I was gonna ask you both. It's hard early was out or or limited in the playoffs. I will agree, but it's hard to a that. Because. C J Anderson was awesome to close out the season. Like, I think that's I think that was actually what the situation was like the game against Arizona's awesome is a runner yet. Didn't offer the kind of screen game. We talked a lot about what kind of plays Jared Goff. Got sure where he was the line. He gets the Robert woods takes the underneath the mesh route to the house. Girly gets what three four five six of those screen pass sixty Arturs every year. You're not going to get that with a backup girly on serve right now with C J Anderson as much as I love him. He's not breaking away for sixty. So I just think it's a fluidity thing. You know, how you get out there? And you see the team running on all cylinders. They just didn't look that way at the end of the year. Like, I said all adjusts that ranking if girly looks if the offense looks like cups, healthy girlies, healthy Goff deserves more respect than fifteen. Sure. Malcolm Brown is. I think a little little bit more capable in the pass catching game than C J Anderson. And I'm going to go on record and say, I think McVeigh's a good coach. He's he's pretty good at offense and his beard is manicure. Oh, it is finally manicured Big Ben Rothlisberger the quarterback three from a season ago. Thirty four touchdown sixteen interceptions. It is harder back three this one. It was rough man. Hardest guide rank. Yes, my fifteen Jason sixteen. I have been eighteen I think we all don't want to draft him. And we all didn't wanna rank him loses. Antonio Brown loses. Levian bill. Not that he had him last year. But still loses him and. Is coming off a monster season. I mean, the the way that I look at it is this is not just an indictment. A lot of times you see these quarterbacks. Okay. I've got him ranked as my quarterback sixteen that is not just solely an indictment on Big Ben. It's also an endorsement of fifteen other quarterbacks because I said last episode, and is really important if you if you didn't catch less episode this year more than any year in recent memory. There are more quarterbacks that are great Twenty-one quarterbacks on my rankings. I like, I'm fine with Big Ben. But I just like other people more and whenever you lose Antonio Brown. I mean, he had two of the top ten wide receivers in I believe real-life, but definitely and fantasy when you lose one of those you take a step back. It's just impossible not to lose Tonio Brown and not take a step backwards. Big Ben's history is not at the upper echelon of the fantasy finish chart either. If you go to twenty thirteen it was eleven five twenty one eighteen ten three. Tendency to get injured I feel like Jason you would prefer to have ranked the quarterbacks one through eleven and then ten guys tied at twelve for the toddler. Exactly, I still think that top twelve is in the range of outcomes for big I do too. I think that twelve is. But I don't think QB three is willing without. There. Philip rivers sixteen Tom Brady at seventeen rivers kind of in the same boat. You know in terms of where we're ranking him only one time last season one game. Did he put up a week winning great performance? So it was a pretty steady season for Philip rivers. Forty three hundred yards thirty two touchdowns twelve picks. Finish this QB eleven that steady. Tough week sixteen couple of duds throughout the season. But pretty steady is there, you know. Hi touchdown rate last year. He this team is more Melvin Gordon's than it is Philip rivers at this Abadi, but even still it's like Jared Goff despite Melvin Gordon being they're getting a ton of rushing touchdowns. Melvin Gordon is a huge asset in the passing game. Fill rivers is it's he's similar like Big Ben to it where it's hard to rank. Because it's just the upside is right is what but he's going to be super solid. I mean, this guy he he is an activity. He is a yogurt that is going to keep your regular fair. If you look at his career finished year after year after year. He's almost always a back in quarterback one literally almost always you've got enough data to know where he's going to finish. So well, he finished above my ranking of him at seventy s. Yeah, he he will he'll finish a quarterback twelve. But that doesn't mean you want to draft doesn't mean I want to draft him because his upside he's literally only finished with the top. Five at the position once and it was in twenty ten I that's a long time ago now, so I don't think he's got room to go up. He's just going to be steady. And I want to take my shot late in the draft at a guy, I think has the potential to because they're they're a good defense. And they look lowest total passiveness in ten years. For Philip rivers. So he he remained steady regular as Mike would say, yes. Because of a six point three percent touchdown rate the second highest of his career and his completion percentage me he threw the ball five hundred and eight times, and you can look two years ago. He threw the ball five hundred seventy eight times yet. He only had two fewer completions this year. So if you want some context for the NFL schedules coming out, and we're getting into the range of like, you might draft the player to stream them for a few weeks. Right. That's where we're at at the quarterback position. Philip rivers could be your last pick in the draft. If he has a great early season schedule, and he could be the guy you start with or platoon, Tom, and it seems like he always starts off the season hot and tails off near then. Yeah, I felt that last year. Yeah. It's like this show. To me. I find the guy. Jason Jason's been fighting. Jason's been told you to stay off the Oregon trail man, he's got is it to berkey Los Brooks. Have we got him tested, or is it the black lung, or is that is that the same thing? I don't know. But I think I got the black lung PA. Yeah. Well, the plant man can help Tom Brady Hannam Brady. Do I have a plan drop new? I honestly don't see it. Mike. I did Brooks. You gotta get organic. You gotta get that thirty five dollars a meal organic plan. Jason in your lungs would feel better. It don't talk to me. You gotta talk to Mike. You're Mr. Rankin him at quarterback Twenty-one. Yeah. That's right. That's fine. Get out of my life fantasy fine. That's his way of saying. I'm done with Tom Brady is a fantasy. Starting darn right. No more gronk, no more unfair advantage. No, more gronk cheat code. No. I seen. Yeah. I mean, we're it's just not that exciting in New England. It's affective non exciting. He threw for one touchdown or fewer in half of his games. That is destruction to your Brady. Yes. If the forthcoming, you know, rise of Sony, Michelle that we I think all three definitely Andy sees coming as you know, relying on him, especially around the goal line happens. That's only going to continue to hurt the touchdown up side of Tom Brady the quarterback twenty-five from weeks eight through thirteen perfect. Will he be on any of your teams? No, not any of ours. Mitchell Trubisky at eighteen this one surprises me. And I look I've thrown the most eight on on Mitchell, obviously famously. Six touchdowns against you. Yes. Against me. He put up six, touch and that was against me personally. Not in fantasy just like it. We were on the menu. Yes. But I've got him at fourteen. You guys have them in nineteen and twenty. Here's an example. Like, we just literally talked about a three pack of elder statesman that we know what we're getting and big Benfield rivers Tom Brady. The upside is not really there. But they're consistent verses a guy like Mitchell Trubisky who there's upside the upside is there, right? Matt Nagy going into year two systems. You've got a guy that I mean look last year he finished his quarterback fifteen but in fourteen games on a per game basis. He was the quarterback twelve I think Mitchell as a football player forget fantasy in real life. I think Mitchell Trubisky is better this year than he was last year another year in the system another year in the NFL. Remember, you only had one year as a starter in college. So, you know, the evolution. I would expect him to take a slight step forward. And if he does a slight step forward from the quarterback twelve on on a per game base. That's someone. I'm interested in if he falls late and drafts he had four great game. So that'd be twenty five or more fantasy points. And they kind of distorted into rising number is the issue, you know, week four forty three fantasy points. I think that's when he famously destroyed your soul week seven thirty one week ten thirty six so the offense is kind of built to allow for that to happen. So you're going to have that from Mitchell. So he's a good streaming candidate. And there is upside to him. Yeah. But I'm leaving him in the streaming category. Huge games. Four mass of games too. Good games. Eight bus eight time you played and he eight eight times. And what was weird was when he started the season. And he was having these huge games as I seven games. He ever GE forty two rushing yards a game. That's fantastic. That's that's the type of base on you want from your running quarterback, the final seven games. He rushed. He was averaging eighteen yards a game on the ground. And that's. That's not what you want from for Mitchell Trubisky to put up these huge gains. I'm just I am when we talk dot going to draft when we talk about risky, anywhere, Mahomes Goff, the success of the, you know, the frequency of which they targeted the running back out of the backfield. Is this addition by subtraction? Gordon Howard, where now you have a capable three Cohen Mike Davis combination that can get points, some cheap points to Mitchell Trubisky that that's exactly what I was going to bring up losing Jordan Howard helps Mitchell Trubisky fantasy value because the dump offs will be there. They tried to get Jordan Howard involved. You look at the beginning of the season. Yeah. Go into the year and they're targeting Howard. But he's not a good pass catcher. And there's a big difference between a guy who can catch a ball and stride. Keep running get yards after the little dump off catch in a guy who has to kind of like pause seize the day grabbed the ball tackle does by extension that hurt. Carson wentz. I don't I don't think it does. Because I love Carson wins. No. But the, but the thing is is they've always I feel like they've they've used a guy like that. They've had legare blunt there. They didn't really target JJ. So I think they they know am I I think that it's it's very similar situation for wins. As he's been used to that Prescott comes in at number nineteen are consensus rankings. I seventeen Jason Mike in nineteen last year. He finished at ten feels like disrespect it is. It's too low definitely played he played much better. Once Amari Cooper arrived. In fact, he was a top eight quarterback in five of the eight starts with Amari Cooper, a seventy one percent completion rate rate from week nine on their talking extension with both Amari and dock trying to make this a pairing for quite some time. So do you believe in the second half Dak I guess not? Yeah. Or is it just like I feel like it's liking other guys in war. It is. But honestly, he's he probably belongs higher. It's it's way too low. I I believe it's somewhere in the middle of the second half Dak. Quarterback six is rookie year quarterback eleven quarterback ten in the do his he'll be healthy three years. He's been a top twelve guy threw for three years because he runs gets rushing touchdowns. And now he has a legitimate number one wide receiver. Mike d look on this show. We just we just talked about Philip rivers. We can adjust on the fly here. Part of the show is working through this Philip rivers. You we both have Philip rivers ahead of Dak Prescott. Okay. There. We got him up at least one spot Dacca's now clubbing eighteen you would rather have docked in Philip rivers about big would I? Yeah. That I don't know about that. I don't know. I mean, the reality is I I do think. Because of Dax rushing is rushing touchdowns the way they use them six around six last year. Yeah. I mean, he he's those plays are called. And there's nothing the defense can do other than sell out for Zeke in. So Dak will get those rushing touchdowns. I think he has a good year. And he's probably one of the most universally undervalued guys. He is surprisingly young to be as unsexy a pick. Nobody wants this. This is the burns, man. This is the fantasy burns of in being super hyped and in in for last year. And then he came out in the first half the season was who was pretty bad for your fans. It's not a coincidence that he had a seventy one percent completion percentage in Cole. Beasley nearly the league in completion percentage at the position reception percentage. So you have to believe that Raina cod can do a Nuff of a Kobe's Lee impersonation to keep those numbers. Up and keep fighting's move. I definitely think this is Dax best receiving core. He's ever had. I mean because you win he had galloping at the right? Michael Gallup developing. He's also got Jason Witten back, and I don't expect Jason Witten to be good for fantasy himself. But when it comes to the for Dak hearing on the Wayne. Yeah. Exactly converting Darwin down. That's that's good for deck. I think he's got the best core. He's had. All right, captain, Kirk comes in at number twenty. That's about. That's he's got two of the best receivers in all football. Got a pass catching running back. I mean, where was he wasn't? He drafted as like a top five guy last year close to. No, he wasn't not always in the top ten in the top seven. Maybe. And I mean, rightly so he had been since two thousand fifteen he'd been at least the quarterback eight or better and to start the year. It looked good it. Did it looked very good especially through week eight and then things kind of fell apart? He was a St. was a little bit inconsistent. I had cousins in a lot of places which Jason to your point would say that I got I got a very late cousin. I would not have drafted cousins. If I had to spend an early pick on him. It was late great Kirk cousins is still here. And it was it was tough because he you would he'd really win with the potential of those thirty point games, mid twenty point games. And then he'd rattled off three kind of stinkers in a row, but you knew at any moment. It was defined digs out of feeling that he could give you a top three performance of the week. And you know, a lot of the lots made the Dow and cook they want to run the ball. But Devin cooks, very good receiving. Yes, he is. So that I mean, we talked about that with golf and others dalvin cook should be able to you know, if he's healthy and out there, catching balls. That's that that goes Kirk cousins to it's just so I guess is peculiar to me. Because if you pay her cousins what they paid him in you, turn him into a at least fantasy highs case keenum. I just just a lot of money spent in the passing. I I do think that they'll they'll throw more and and dealing in digs more than we think and theline in digs affords. You great games. He will probably be a streaming candidate for your opponent that you think you're happier playing and every once in a while you really disappointed the way that Philip rivers was a couple of years ago. When when I said earlier that I've got you know, Twenty-one quarterbacks that I'm happy to Lee. The draft with right now. I believe he's my twenty-first quarterback. And so I'm happy if I leave in my last round pick, I grab Kirk cousins. So I'm not I'm not going to go. Oh, man. Now, I I've got a giant hole at quarterback. He's fine. He had a seventy percent completion rate. He threw for forty three hundred yards thirty touchdowns, and we're your eight year, and we are disparaging the man. Well, we have standards Mike, we have very high standards very very high. Every very high demand five K tell you what thirty five touchdowns. Why don't you just run for six hundred yards better yet four hundred yards? I'll be happy with that. It will be the same as throwing for four thousand dollars. Right. All right. Hey, it's been a while. Let's get in the back. Mailbag? All right. Been awhile spice it up. Yep. Go to the website, click this amid a question button or dial a voicemail hotline three zero two four six four t FAFB. We love help in the foot clan. Get right in the offseason, Alex in Wilmington, North Carolina. Now as to get right? Not regular might not another look. There's nothing yogurt related is nothing wrong with being regular. In fact, it's healthy. It is your total type of guy. Hey, guys loved the show says Alex I am trying to decide between keeping Pat Mahomes for a ninth rounder or Travis Kelsey for a fifth rounder off Mahomes is a no brainer for such a late pick. But Kelsey is in his own tier. I it's a great value on both players. Yeah. And and look, we're we're, you know, I'm the answer at the same time anti Mahomes in general. But that's because the price you're paying for him. Both of these guys are really in their own tier or at least they're top of their position. So to me, I I know my answer. I know my answer. It's a we'll say at the same time one two three meals so Mike, and I are both Kelsey your Mahomes. My reason is just replace ability. That's mine too. If you if you don't get Mahomes of we just went through a bunch of quarterbacks that I'd be happy to are they Mahomes. No. But late replace Kelsey with a tight in. You're not going to be happy with. At all. You're just gonna backwards. Couldn't it afford. You the opportunity to take calcium his at his premium draft costs and still get a great value situation. You wanna take Kelsey in the second round sh but but here's the thing. Then I mean, you got Kelsey Mahomes stack in exchange for a second and ninth. No, that's a legit strat. Just the thought. Yeah. I don't know. I don't think you're gonna go wrong. Yeah. I mean, both are enormous value. It's it's just the re replace ability. There's only one guy who's close to Kelsey tear. All right, Corbin and Colorado. I was offered. Mike Everett Mandela's, it is carbon Dallas. Yes. From fifth helmet. I was offered. Mike Evans now hanging. I bring it up Mia Jovovich. And let me just say might give as a as a mcgibbon as Jovovich fan in the past. Oh, no. This is this is this a scathing review. I just wasn't a fan of the new hell boy, that's all I'm saying the old ones the del Toro hallways. Always got me. So jacked up for this. And then I saw meal is in it. She still looks fairly young. I think she kicks massive. But that's all it was. Oh, and the thing is is maybe she's just not can she not act. Am I right? I can she not act multi bass 'cause multi passes not a along script. Boom. I mean, I I I think you your love for the old ones and your love for me Jovovich is that's what made you want to see you posted on our channel. Like, hey, I'm going to get tickets for this movie on the roofs. Who is going with me, and you were a low tonight along, thanks. I've seen at least two other people's money going to that movie. But yeah, anyway, not the best actress in that film. Yeah. Moving on that came out of Corbin in Colorado. Chris names Corbin now did this to himself if he was in Dallas, can you imagine go of a man? I was offered Mike Evans, and I would give up George Kittle. Would you do that trait in a deep dynasty league? Yes. Yeah. For clarity. Oh, no. It's three running back five wide too tight end to flex because it's five wide receiver. Yes. I saw the to Mike as well. No. I saw the too tight end before I saw the five wide receiver. Yeah. I in a startup draft. All you have to do in. These things is think which one would you draft. I, you know, warning, by the way, sleep earlier, Adam gaze is first message to the jets. He came there to throw in the patriots. So there you go wasn't he already in the division with the patriots last year? Now, that's funny. He came there to do when he came there to do before what was your mission last year, not just less for the last several years. What did he come to Miami to do? Come on. But head. I'll go with Butthead. He's he's line goes from be held about it. Come on, man. Those words they'll ring to Brad in Minnesota. Should I trade Travis Kelsey for David Joko in the one? Oh, five in a rookie draft new. No what about David and joke who in the one on one protests Kelsey. I'm just probably know who's the one on one after the NFL draft. I don't even know if I can start David joke this here, if I knew that for sure if I knew that four shirt, the trade is more interesting, but you could be trading. Travis. Kelsey for no tight end. Unfortunately in joke who has all the talent. But we know how agnostic Baker is what the targets and now adele's there. Yeah. All right last one, Anthony and Pennsylvania when will the UK app come out. Hey, randy. Yeah. Ooh. Should go live when the rocket goes live on June first. Yeah, there's a companion app. It's free. It's coming along with the decay this year, it's a tag along. But it's awesome. Not awesome. Not a cookie it's an app. We said this. You gotta take the good jokes with the bad jokes with Mike. That was a great one. There's a delicious job. I mean, tag arguing that is great. All right. Pristine deal of the day. The Andre Hopkins sign Houston Texans jersey yesterday sold for two hundred seventy nine dollars. Nope. No, one hundred seventy nine and a no no seventy nine dollars. Yes. Does ridiculous seventy nine dollars pristine auction dot com. Hundreds of daily action sports memorabilia that goes well beyond football, although they have hundreds of daily football auctions that you can check out pristine auction dot com. Let them know the fantasy footballers since you. I want to start seeing we should talk to pristine about this own start seeing like de'andre Hopkins signed Mike Evans jersey, you know, what I mean like they they sign each other's jerseys. No, just one one direction and you're making fun of my tag along Joe. And if there's any like fifth element gear over their big boom, see Thursday, good. Good. Thank you. For listening to another episode of the fantasy footballers podcast. Join our fantasy football community on join the foot dot com and follow us on Twitter at the F ballers.

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Fantasy Time Machine + Fantasy Superheroes LIVE in SF

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Fantasy Time Machine + Fantasy Superheroes LIVE in SF

"<music> to the famous podcast Andy Holloway Away Jason Mike Reid <music>. You're listening at home and you can't tell we're alive. We're alive. Yes if instead enciso if you're listening at home and you can't tell we're live. Yes you do welcome into the show. Stop number three on the people's fantasy tour brought to you by Pristine Oxygen. We're giving away a fine. Jimmy G. Jimmy handsome helmet today. Today we do have some we do have some raiders fans in the house and that's okay that's great because the foot clan comes from all of them everywhere all walks Las Vegas representing differ all they are rowdy rowdy. We have a great show for you tonight. We're GONNA hop into the time machine on the show today a little bit later. We're GonNa talk about some news. We've got a great quick question. If you still want to come to a live show we've got two more left. Yup can't come to this one you your hardy here. Come to the next one unless you already got it sold out so phoenix is the last available to you at bothers live dot com like you said we'd like to have a little bit of fun with the quick question especially at the live shows so today a we have a very special important question is very important. I want your best player to Superhero. COMP <hes> okay. I want you to make the comparison one here right now. superheroes heroes are big. Can we McCaffrey's brothers. We've got the answer and here you up. I was yes sure I'll go for all right the player I wanNA talk about and his Superhero Padre is de que metcalf rookie wide receiver for the Seahawks for those at home they are doing the one seahawks fan in the crowd reaction time by the seahawks hawks fan to realize we were talking about the ten seconds later he was it was delayed like Metcalfe's draft capital. I like that I mean he looks big. Though I mean right so this one is low hanging fruit you should already know you should be screaming. I know the Superhero as green lantern what he's just you know here's the thing about. I think he's super super. Creative imagination is unbelievable. He's he's so thoughtful. No it's the whole gets the other green guy de que mid cap is the hulk and lane yourself. Why obviously you've got ah the physique right a little bit you lemon on so you've got that he's clearly a freak of Bassim in the whole? Also I think he's going to be a little less than a tactician on the field. He's going to a little on coordinate. Yeah and that's the thing if the whole quarter run routes think he's going to score orwell on reception perception. No it's not what I think he could still get the job done because he's a beast and that's where decay metcalf is look. He's not this great refined route runner but he is literally a superhero on N._F._l.. Field and IT might not matter that he's not this great refined wide receiver Russell Wilson's rolling around he can throw the bomb and the hulk can just go hoax match. Get it so that's that's my player calm very nice alphabet very nice. I'll go next Andy's up. I WanNa talk about Jarvis Landry. Okay Oh Jarvis Landry wide receiver hard knocks fame. Yes bless them bless them so but the thing is Jarvis Landry and maybe this is low hanging fruit here but Jarvis Landry is Robin. I mean he's the underwear Robin Wright. He's the underwear Robin and here's the thing chart I hope Jarvis is not listening on Youtube or you here at the line show you'll be able to see the picture that went up and it's not the most flattering thing but I want. I want to paint a picture for you like Robin is still a superhero. He's still Jarvis is still one of the best players in football but you don't necessarily want to be the and in fantasy football you don't want it to be Batman and Robin Odell Beckham Junior and Jarvis Landry you WanNa have Batman and Superman yeah that would be better and at at the end of a big fight. Nobody's like thank goodness. Robin was there so I think for your fantasy team. Jarvis forgive still a super. Not many people can be super heroes. I'm not he's a superhero nominees robber that Alpha and for your fantasy team Acapulco. Maybe maybe for your fantasy team is not going to be enough. He's just the and and I think oh Dell's Ellsberg man so all right Mike what you got. I'll jump in here. I want to talk about a man that I've been talking about this entire offseason because I just cannot stop myself can't get enough New England patriots wide receiver Julian Ataman. He is mighty righty just booze. Here's the thing he's a little bit smaller but guess what Julian Edelman is aunt man. Of course I heard a couple of people on the because it's he's small but you know what maybe stronger when he's in his small mode he is absolutely mighty does ant man get hurt a lot he could. He's a little bit older. He's been angry all right gets her alive but here's here's the thing he he plays he plays much bigger than his size and look at the only explanation possible for a beard of that magnitude is it's ants the ants and they are his beard and that's that's why you finish so high in the accuracy ranking absolutely so Julian Edelman all right man. There's a quick question before we get into the news and there's a lot of news to cover. There's there's news to cover from the bay area that we're going to talk about <hes> I do want to give a very special shoutout to the team from Saint Jude who has been supporting this entire tour. Get it out there saying to we're partnering with them on the tour all the proceeds from the V._I._p.. Meet and greet tickets went to saint jude a dollar from every ultimate draft kit goes to Saint Jude. They've been amazing so we're proud to have him. As a part of this tour. Let's get into the news news notes from around the League presented by sleeper. Aren't I thought we were going to lead off with some bay area news but we're not we're going to lead off with some news that broke today yeah and might have broke just mere minutes after we took this player in our Scotty fishbowl draft but Melvin Gordon has informed the charters he will not report to training camp. He will demand a trait unless he receives a new contract so for instantly alarms are going on and they and they better be they better be going for a good reason. The blueprint is already there Levian but it's the circumstances were a little bit different because Levian Bell was on the franchise contract so he's not like this weird limbo area where he's under non trap right. He is under the fifth year option he could be fined and things like that but the blueprint is there and Levy on Bell said you don't want to pay me. I'm not GonNa play and then guess what happened. Someone backed up the dump truck full of Gold Bouillon and Levian bell ended up getting paid. I talked about this a few months ago right after the levy on bell contract. Did you said and Melvin Gordon is looking at this. He's looking at what's happening. He's looked at what Todd Gurley got and now he's looking at what Levey Mbelle got and he said I sacrifice my body for this team every single day and if you aren't going to commit to me there's the Jagan. You'RE GONNA have to quit me. There's there's a chance that he may not show up. So how are you in actually because we know that the two sides have been talking negotiating. If you're in that position discussing contract terms sometimes the play is the public. You know you go public. Yes you let the team know look. I'm willing to take this as far as I can. The chargers Philip rivers long in the tooth. Their window is small to get to the Super Bowl. The team should be motivated to sign him. How concerned -cerned are you in actuality like we took him eighth? Pick of our Scotty fishbowl drown. I think Austin actor was drafted by more Scottish teams today than anybody out there our ours yeah but how are you. I will say this so the real question that all fantasy owners have to ask and try to answer is will Melvin Gordon lose time or potentially be on another team. I think the odds are scary high really the reason. I think that I know and we. I'm on the opposite side. You're on the opposite side so you can you can make your case. My case is essentially this this the San Diego chargers and I am not getting my words wrong there shockingly. We're a bad franchise. They've they've run poorly. Their owner is known as not one of the best owners in the league the look at what happened with Bosa when they drafted him on these rookie contracts and already done and you haven't missing time you you also have a franchise right now. That was one of the only franchise that lost essentially win. They moved to Los Angeles. They lost their ranking despite moving to a bigger market in the N._F._l.. Teams when it comes to evaluations and the reason they can't sell out stadiums that are for soccer and twenty five thousand people. This is a financial problem for the current Los Angeles chargers. I worry that if he's asking for all this money they've got Justin Jackson got equity. They they WANNA have them absolutely they want to sign him but I think this is one of those things where it's like okay. You've got the you've got. The championship window versus the actual constraints of the pocket book. This is a team while the whole N._F._l.. Does profitsharing wear the teams make their differentiation is in their ticket sale at sessions in their jerseys and they're one of the dead last teams in the N._F._l.. In that revenue and see they can't afford not to win that that's it's where I take it like. If you talk about opening the pocketbooks up Justin Jackson waves three pounds less than us an actor does they cannot afford to have those guys in the back but they win with L. Melva if they win if they win your if we're just talking to establish awesome so win they will then be able for the next two years to sell a twenty five thousand seat stadium. They're not gonNA make that money back so I just that's where you're from it. On a financial stan all right the raiders have signed first first round rookie running back graduates Dak- this this is reminding me of even signed their rookies come on chargers so it took him a second Josh Jacobs a four year contract trek fully guaranteed takes variable out of the equation Confidence Josh Jagan he's locked in. He's the talk rookie running back in your draft all right not to be outdone. The forty niners quarterback Jimmy Garoppolo believes his surgically repaired knee will be healed and ready for a full workload by the beginning of training camp he the Rehab process has gone really well. Knock on wood we haven't had any setbacks confidence level and Jimmy Garoppolo look the expectations were sky high last year with the offense cal fan what they can do in it. They the pieces together other a quarterback data pieces together at running back Jimmy Garoppolo coming back. It's one thing to say okay. You've got your franchise got back on the N._F._l.. Field so another thing to say he's going to be a fortune fantasy right so does this news do much by way of encouraging encouraging you to take him higher and fantasy dress. He's a late round draft pick for a reason if last year was very strange because when he came in and he kind of what he was traded over to San Francisco middle of the season it came in and he was absolute yardage Stud he was what you expect from a Kyle Shanahan quarterback to start the year. You're not getting the type of fantasy numbers that we've come to rely from that system so it was a little bit strange. He's he's still belongs in the late round but he's he is absolutely one of those guys is the late round Dart. Throw that possibly Jimmy turns into a week we start. Ill handsome very very well. He hurt his knee. You didn't hurt his face if he everything good is he hurt his face. I'm done but yeah I mean look this isn't this isn't a rushing quarterback. He that was the problem he thought he was a rushing quarterback. That was just a dumb decision on his part you just except truth but I mean he averages eleven yards on the ground game. When Carson Wentz injured his knee and came back he hurt himself for fantasy because a big part of his game was rushing and you didn't see that as much when he had the brace on was coming back? I'm not worried about that for Gras. I'm okay with all right. We've got one more to get into now might be reading big transition threes Fangio's to installing hydraulic try any range comes out. He says Damian Williams v Lines on the year he is taking the challenge that read he wants wants to do this thing he earned the right to be the guy who don't matter production. You gotTa go do it. Sit Andy Reid so this is is this hype is this this is this is lightning. This Damian Williams is starting running back for the Kansas City chiefs and he said go out there. Go out there and produce but let let me like you did last year. Let me ask you a question okay. If you like ice cream or if let's say all you have to eat as ice screen and you start telling yourself that ice cream good for you you might as well tell yourself that you don't have anything else to eat sure Andy Reed's options in the backfield you might as well tell Damien he's the next Adrian Peterson but and he's talking to <music> but Andy Reid had every opportunity to go out there and getting something healthy and he stuck with the ice because it's delicious look look I think we can all agree. The Andy Reid like it's the likes ice cream okay but but the reality is they had very limited cap space and very limited draft capital so he's the guy that's allowed to make that joke is be <hes> no the the reality is this does matter. I wanted to keep going because eighty says it's just a matter of can he produce and I'm on record saying. I don't think he's running back but I'm also on record saying opportunity for running back matters a whole a lot more than talent. There isn't a better opportunity than being in Kansas City's offense with Andy Reid right. Now I moved Damian. Williams sees my number ten running back right now so he's an rb one. I'm I'm I would I would never do that. He's eleven for me by I by August Damian Williams will creep into the back of the first round no yes he will if he doesn't then he's a value waterbed et anytime you hear yesterday well no you Jesse. We all know you want very mature. I'M NOT GONNA lie to you. The crowd really egg me on that but I like all right that was today's he's news and notes brought to you as always by sleeper reminder sleeper does not just break the latest news. They are the best fantasy platform and he's funny because you can start to see that on social yes you can't the the ground swell the lack of changes elsewhere asleep the house tonight. 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Can you identify this year's George Kim because Kim don't look if you had George Kitto last year whether it was happy if you spent a kindle as I did forty four fab him up early doc or you invested late in your draft I mean this was a tight end that broke out and offered you week winning weeks over and over again to record setting number so if there was not always George Kettle but if there. was what are the candidates in the upcoming season to the next one. Mike Sorry Mike already so we're we're talking about a tight end. That's going to break out. There may be a dance that you could do my man Vance McDonald. This man does not have a farm but he has the Vance dance. No pants required for the band stance. You may or may not know that low last year seventy two targets came down fifty receptions for six hundred ten yards and four touchdowns and here's what's happening with the Pittsburgh steelers Antonio Brown has Gone Jesse. James are gone. That's two hundred seven vacated targets or over thirty percent it over thirty percent of those targets are gone and you could say the Pittsburgh steelers those passing numbers. They were inflated last year big. Ben was throwing more than he ever has in his career and I will say that's a very fair point. Let's take a look at the numbers. Let's give him five hundred and seventy five targets. That's that's one hundred fewer targets. That's still a hundred seventy two missing targets that we don't know where they are going to go and here's here's a fun fact about advance McDonald for last year receiving yards after contact the affirmation George kittle three hundred thirty eight. That's a sensational number Travis Kelsey Zeus a monster of a man two hundred thirty nine yards after contact Jack Vance McDonald who way fewer passes two hundred thirteen yards after contact because he's not just one person Vance McDonald is in fact two people because he pulled the temple of doom him and he ripped out Kris Conte's heart and stole his soul. I absorbed him and now he has the power of two yeah and this isn't like this is a a Ryan Fitzpatrick watching that video today I watched it maybe twenty three times but this isn't Ryan Fitzpatrick where we know that he favors the wide receivers. This is Big Ben Rothlisberger who has utilizing may a tight end as his number two awesome Keith Miller has multiple seasons of over should say had multiple seasons of over ninety plus targets Vance McDonald. I don't like that as A._D._P.'s creeping up. Maybe we're talking about him a little bit too much but I'm just talking about. I can't and this is my Joe. I'm here to talk to her record but I'm very excited for the breakout potential events McDonald's see the thing is I buy into him as a potential break outside and candidate simply because I don't buy do you can't do that much more. You can't go up. I mean fourteen hundred twenty six yards for target volume can't go somewhere else so then it's about Dante Johnson or James Washington or Dante Moncrieff so I do buy in on the fact so are you investing in Vance. If if eighth round pick right now yes so if I don't get Travis Kelsey I wait for Evan Ingram or a player who's going to be named if I don't get them then I start targeting advancement calling them I I will say this one of the things that you can see a lot in preseason. is you see a lot of snaps apps from the tight end position that in years past when Peyton Manning helped Julius Thomas or Julius breakout in Denver you saw on film in the preseason. Here's here's the WHO's the backup tight end in Pittsburgh. Thank you very everybody Xavier Jalen sanyal savior grumble grumble Harry Potter. No it's the thing you put your phone stabilizes while I got it and get a nice steady Cam Xavier Grynbaum. He's the one recording yes so the player that stood out to me on film all last year when all the hype was on Hayden Hearse in the higher draft capital was Mark Andrews Yeah and Mark Andrews is basically Free Rian Drafts Mark Andrews Look. It's hard to be the next George cadle but from a physical perspective he did some of the things that killed it. What was what made kill incredible? humongous plays right yards after catch just a niner talk. If you're a forty niner imbued by default. You're the best I should've guessed yes so andrews not a niner not a niner but his insane yards after the catch ability you saw with kittle. It'll you saw with Mark Andrews. Last year and flashes Lamar Jackson went his way he had a seventy four yard reception in week twelve had a sixty eight yard touchdown in week sixteen and the truth is he's slowly creeping up the draft boards a little shoes Hayden hearst. I can't get healthy again. They're saying be quiet. Don't talk about more dangerous but the thing is he. He could be an incredible value and if he's not you didn't you didn't invest that much draft capital in your role amount there see what you got the hype visit building for Mark Andrews and I think he fits that mold of a big play guy. He's friendly on a quarterback learning to throw the football and Lamar Jackson. That's the truth so I think you've gotTa Look Mark Andrews Well. The thing about Mark Andrews is he was ause last year behind Dallas Goddard. He was many peoples including Mine Jason You as well Mark Dallas got her in the mark. Andrews guys was the number to pass catching option that we really wanted to see go to a fantasy hennessy friendly place he sort of did but the problem was they drafted a tight end before they drafted a tight end so it put this this damper on the shine of what Mark Andrews could be and you knew it was going to take some time before the Ravens realize that Mark Andrews should be the tight end. WHO's featured in the past game? Hidden hurts good player but L._B.. Andrew should be the one getting the targets next door's kettle just to add to that because I'm a big Mark Andrews Fan. I think that he's an undervalued tight end. I loved the idea of him. Stepping forward as that George late round guy that goes forward once Lamar Jackson took over he was on pace for seven hundred seventy one yards which would have been the second most for any any rookie tight end since the year two thousand. I mean we already saw the rookie break in now the year to break out for tight ends which is really not raking and break break new segment your wordsmith. Thank you all right so so mind when when I look at okay who's the next door to kill title now you you could interpret that as WHO's the late round tight end that you're going to get a good value on how I interpret that is who's the next tight end. Who's going to completely break out? Who's the guy that come to the next year's draft? You're like okay well. You got the big three or the big four you're and then there's everybody else the way the kindle is now in that conversation with Kelsey which is just to add to it. That's the yearly conversation you have the haves and have nots at the tight end position right. You've got a few guys you're willing to invest in and then you've got the rest and you don't Oh care which get so the guy that I think you talked about. What what's what's a quarterback that loves tight ends? Genius Winston loves the SITE ENDS and O._J.. Howard is an absolute beast of a man Howard owners was out they look so here's the thing that I I don't know if if all fantasy football players are familiar with all the different metrics of which which combine results matter for which positions the forty time is built upper wide receivers but that's not actually very itchy? Fun is fun but it's not actually very predictive really it's the offensive and defensive line the trenches where the combine result end up being pretty good indicators right the only position of fantasy fantasy football where com mine metrics really matter well it makes sense is in the trenches sort of it's tight end position the titans who are the best the Antonio Gates that Kelsey the Gronk that kittle Greg Olsen and Jimmy Graham in his heyday. These are like ninety fifth percentile athletes all of them. They are unbelievable athletes. Those are the guys that break out into the upper upper tier saying I should have been a tight end. Yes yes there was a nine in front of the five right so V percents. I'm percents how that's right and and O._J.. Howard is that he's ninety nine th percentile and almost every metric? He is a giant man who runs faster than everyone else who has a great agility score those measurable 's breakout in the N._F._l.. And then if you look at like okay well what did he do. Rookie your kindle five point seven fancy points a game O._J.. Howard a five point seven fantasy points a game with that match ooh last year you had Howard go up to ten point four fans points game? Unfortunately Howard missed six games right. That's why we're not like completely all in on him because he finishes the tight end thirteen and despite not playing for almost half the season from his sixteen game was tight end five and that's in his second. That's in a second season so I think right now he's got a chance to break out and then think about this Adam Humphreys into Sean Jackson and were replaced by Rashaan Perriman and Scotty Miller. Everybody knows Scotty Miller right yeah yes Amtrak so the point is there are extra while while you know look I love God when I love Mike Evans. They're they're. They're going to pick up some of those targets. That's one hundred seventy targets. A lot of those will end up going to O._J.. Howard so a little bit of pushback if I had to question it you have to pay up a little bit for O._J.? How're you don't for Vance in for Mark Andrews? The injuries have been a problem. How concerned are you with that and the draft capital I think when you're in those middle rounds which is still where he is? He's not a late round guy but he's a middle round guy. I don't worry about the injuries that much because I want to win my league and if I win my league that means mind guys were pretty healthy. I mean the reality is if you lose a bunch of your players to injury. It doesn't matter you don't WanNa finish third I do now. Here's here's the worst thing the worst thing in the world is to be Brian Katrin Right yes. I don't Wanna I finished second. Go Loser. It's fair. He's here tonight easier. Okay all right. We're GONNA jump back in the time machine. We're going to find somebody else by the way we do have a live mailbag. Coming Up Very San Francisco get ready. Answering questions live here at the independent but let's find the twenty nineteen version of Nick Chubb because he was revelation for fantasy owners. He wasn't drafted. He was free. He was a rookie. He had those elite measurable. There are a lot of factors to the second half people won their league because of Nick Chubb yes and you you had bought in Nick Shove up early yes and then you saw the transition with that offense in in Cleveland and then you dropped him. I got him back. It helped him out all right. Here's here's the rookie that I wanNA talk about when you're going after these guys late in your draft or you maybe you're not actually drafting these players. You're just keeping an eye and waiting a few weeks before you pounds because you know that the that the change is going to come similar to Nick Chubb you could you could feel the transition happening four Cleveland because Carlos Hyde was working out for fantasy because he was looking into touchdowns but he was not getting the job done. They ended up trading him throughout the middle of the season. You want to find ambiguous running back backfield's where it you're not really sure who exactly is the starter and the most ambiguous backfield in the league in my opinion belongs to the buffalo bills. He is his shady McCoy. Is it Frank Gore they. They invested in a rookie. His name is Devon Single Terry. Here's the thing Oh couple people like all right the running back cliff. It is absolutely a real thing for mortal men. Maybe someone on this roster is immortal. We're not exactly sure yet. Frank Frank Gore did just turned twenty seven years old you yesterday but here's here's the thing people talk about. The running back cliff on the time is it. Is it in touches. We all of this show. Joseph want had a very compelling argument on number fire. You talked about it's eighteen hundred carries another great friend of the show Mike Tagliatelle talked about the age cliff. Generally generally speaking is twenty nine so let's take a look at the running backs on the buffalo bills shade him into we have to I'll make it brief. I'll Mega Reap Shady McCoy thirty one <hes> older than twenty nine two thousand three hundred forty six carries as a lot well over the cliff and here's what happened the last two years of shady McCoy career the lowest yards per carry in his career including last year's dramatic plummet to three point two yeah that's Bellman Louisa cliff he's done and this is the final year of his contract. Frank Gore who's in a one year contract he did have a little bit of a resurgence but but win hold on when he was the workhorse when he was the workhorse for Indianapolis you saw his jarreds precarious sub four point zero all three of those years Graham Barfield who does a sensational look at rookie running basketball yards created devon single terry ran behind the worst offensive line in this running back class yet he still produced over over a hundred twenty five rushing yards and two rushing touchdowns per game over his final two years of his college career. I think that Devon Single Terry could just be that guy. I'm not necessarily drafting him unless that's what I wanted to ask you are you. Is this somebody that you've just got like you're you're. You're Monaco Glancing Adam. You're not drafting peering over. I dress up as the monopoly man. Yes and I take a look and I say pretty soon. I'll put you on my roster around around week three or four. I'm going to take a look at what's happening with the buffalo bills and then I'm going to Stash Devon single. We've talked a little bit about the bills and just how I think over the second half of the U.. Somebody's going to own the backfield. They want to run the football. They run it more than almost anybody anybody in football but right now you're staring down Gore McCoy Yeldan grow and single Terry and it's not fun. No you want to go. You know I'm going to hop in here because I you know this guy. I've talked about a lot. I really like where he landed. I think he's a talented what'd well rounded back. He fits the system and I think he's going to succeed this year. It's the rookie for the New England Patriots Kerryon Johnson not a rookie. It's Damian Harris Great Scott. Yes yes thank you so. Here's the thing about daming. Here's right like let me let me ask you guys question. Nick job towns back right but why did he break out. What what was traded was traded away so you started with a team where you've got a player and that player was gone? They didn't have anybody else to just sign off of free agency or in the draft because it was mid season that player was John. Chubb had the entire Backfield to himself. I think that the odds are high that Sony Michelle Mrs Games or more than just a few games and has another eight or James. Uh what's the plural of games games. He's I think Sony could miss several games as how many up to sixteen games's aw look Sony Michelle tore his A._C._l.. In High School Okay then he missed time at Georgia again with a broken shoulder an injured ankle and yet another knee injury then look he was drafted last year and he had to have a procedure in August that caused him to miss the preseason Miss Week one then after week seven with the bears he had another knee injury. Thank goodness. He's passed asked all of that right. We just had his knee scoped again. He did degenerative knee arthroscopic procedure every may arthritic Dr Jason On. I mean look when you arthroscopic cise. Your knee missing gains this. Here's here's here's what I do. I'm fully convinced say you. I knew look. This is ironclad locked. Yeah Mrs Yes yes. Thank you but look I think I think most most people trust the mind of Bill Belichick what it is for me. It's just like you. Can you made all the case before for he. He left college and I'm like well. Bill Belichick happened in the first round so he must be right right and then on day to the next year. He's like think of an Anita running back so he took Damian Harris saying I think he's concerned about the running back position for his team and look. There's a lot of opportunity here because he's actually well round. Damian Harris is playing good well rounded player. He's much more like expert at he can catch the ball and look at what rex burkhead did when when he wasn't interested he finally got back healthy for the playoffs offs he had three touchdowns in the first two playoff games and that was with Sony Ballin out so I think Damian Harris is good but the opportunity to have Sony Michelle exit the team via injury and have a true workhorse back for a great offense offense that wants to run the ball and we'll have tons of choline opportunities. I and here's his free. He's not drafted in some leagues yeah. I know you love him. I know you maybe I maybe I want Michelle. The have all that opportunity so we can see what we saw in the playoffs and it's hard it from me to bank on like an injury but when you talk about at least having a history that could lend itself that direction now. You're you're not drafting him. No I am draft. I actually unlike to see the first Harry unlike single Terry where I don't think any of us see a week one barring she no he's not getting started. I think there is a world where Damian Harris Win Sony is there performs well and is a flex candidate this next player that I'm going to bring up his guy take with the last pick in every draft pretty much yes. This is Tran. Look the world out here. It's focused on the return of Jerick McKinnon and the addition of Kevin Coleman now. I'm going to take a serious Paul here because we're in the bay area you get to cheer for either McKinnon or call the niners fan. I understand McKinnon or common. I just WanNa see who you think is going to do better in this offense so if you're a mackinnon person I want to hear you clap clap if you're a mackinnon person Jason smattering as light. I WanNa hear you clap. If you're a Tevin Coleman person more confidence our scientific pool is complete. I like new things right. We like the new shiny things out now. Listen I'm. I'm bringing up the last week and everyone in my draft because his Breda yeah now. Let me ask this because this is just this is like taking candy from a baby here. Do you think Shanahan is stupid new and the reason that I believe breed is the candidate to be the next nick shop right then next second half Dynamo when you your league is because I don't think Shanahan is stupid and he's a smart head coach and last season breeder and for five point five Carey in his career which is at twenty thirty forty one hundred no. It's two hundred and fifty eight carries. He's a five Kerry guy hi in his career through two seasons he has he's run for ten or more yards on seventeen percent of his runs. That is number one in football. That's two percent better. Who Do you think as Explosive Alvin Chimera Aaron Jones yes? He's percent better than both of those guys last year. That's like your opinion man the argument the argument is simply that you don't put a guy that talented that explosive on the bench and if they're on the bench they're not there for long six yards per touch. That was the same as Christian McCaffrey who someone in this audience really. He really likes yeah. We've been hearing about him which was by the way number four in the N._F._l.. So the evidence is if people cared however about what I was saying at all or watch the film or watch the Games that I saw he probably wouldn't be the forty fifth running backdraft so they don't let the public is breaking in but he yes vocal. My name is Jeff. What about Jeff Wilson Yeah? No no I get it I which is more than just saying my name is Jeff would be like and now I experienced. Thank you have no points because it was nothing of substance there so he was like your analysis yes dear yeah. Don't worry guys. I can't how hear him from up there in the rink. I've been buried that sucks my body burritos my favorite song. That's my guy so we'll do one more then. We'll get into the live mail bag. I think this one's an important one because all last offseason look players get hype players. Get attention players to get excitement. They look like great values I used wouldn't it be nice to know who the twenty nine hundred Alex Collins was. Yes there is an is so that you I guess now. It's gone was Alex. Eighteen alice cons was was yes but the thing is if you could see those minefields hop into the time machine pull out the almanacs. Who's GonNa let you down? There was a lot of excitement around Alex caused the way he finished the way his second half was the year before he had this great yards per carry. Was it misleading four point six yards per carry. What do you think minefield are and I'm going to jump on board because people are very excited very excited sided about this running back who was quite frankly he turned into a championship running back? If you pick them up at the right time he literally carried you jumped on his shoulders you bench the rest of your team and you played this. This guy and you still managed to win because over the final four game C. had five hundred eighty five rushing yards. It's funny to hear it out loud and of course I'm talking about Derrick Henry of the Tennessee titans judging by the response people are not too happy on saying. They all kept him look number one. I said he had five hundred eighty five rushing yards in the final four games in the season he had a thousand fifty nine yards and that means that there was a certain percentile of his rushing yards that came in those final four games. Normally I'm really happy about that but over half of your rushing yards in four games uh-huh of suspects things going on. Here's here's the problem here's the problem eighteen targets on the year you can't rely I on running backs targets to draft and that high in high stakes leagues high the people are spending a lot of money to play. They are drafting Derrick Henry above Aaron Jones Marlin Mac devante Freeman Kerryon Ron Johnson Boo like this is absolutely insane to me because look it wasn't this was not Derek Henry's free. I'm a soccer man. I'm a sucker. Go Cherry on bombs. I've got it's like one button. I just have to push this heated rates. It's top man sorry okay but here's here's the deal. Do you want me to hit the Derrick Henry Biden. Yes please thank you. That's such a light up because your story is why I didn't recommend him and the two other weeks he was incredible so I feel like I'm a food but this was not Derrick Henry first year in the League. We have seen plenty of Derrick Henry in fact it was not the first time this season that the Tennessee titans game plan was give Derrick Henry the ball and weeks two and three he carried the ball eighteen times per game and it didn't work out they think they think that they have it all figured <music> out and we're going to give Derek the ball. He's GonNa rip off Ninety Nine Yard touchdowns every single week. It's going to be fantastic. Marcus Mariota doesn't need to do with thing and fantasy drafters are buying in and Derrick Henry will be this year's Alex. Collins and people are going to be very upset. It's a bold tag. Mike doing tell me in high stakes leagues. They were smart and taking them after those guys know saying everybody's a fool but you yes okay got it. I got a time machine. Let's see the lack of pass catching but I do think he's going to succeed on the ground this year so I'm not I'm not as anti you're on an island apparently all right. I'm GONNA bring a film Lindsey's name and I want. I I want you to know like like he has a giant undrafted tattoo on his body. Yeah like I love this guy last year. I feel like this is the least biased take I could ever have because last year. I picked him up everywhere. I signed Tim when the chance of Roy's Freeman we're coming from everyone else. I picked him up before the season began in one of our leagues signed him on the waivers in another league wrote him to a lot of success except in the last three weeks and the thing is I absolutely adore what he he did. He it's an amazing story but there are similarities between the Alex Collins Story and the Philip Lindsey Story. They were both undrafted free agents college was a fifth round pick. I mean he got cut immediately so that's okay. It's pretty close close pretty close but last year talking about three Oh six is where collins went this year. I'm surprised people must be listening to this show I am. He's four zero seven now. That's where Philip Lindsay is so he is starting to trickle down draft boards a little bit and I. I don't have any desire to doubt Philip Lindsay but things went so very very right for him last year but Royce Freeman was banged up all of last year Philip Look Lindsey. He's plotted who face a lot of eight man fronts yeah. That's the truth more than anybody in football and he still ran over for a Carey so the thing is you got a new head. Coach got a new quarterback. You got a new system. You injured yourself. At the end of the year you did slow down to the last three games two points something to carry so I just think that the struggle to in this season the fact that I do believe in the talent and ability voicestream which I know you do my he's a talented player. It doesn't take much. Let's think about if you lose three carries a game over the course of the season. You're going from being a guy that maybe was going to be a two two hundred two hundred twenty Kerry guy you lose forty five carries. Do you want Philip Lindsay at one hundred sixty eight hundred seven hundred eighty carries now. Is that going to do you do do you want him but you might not want him as fourth round draft capitals so I think there's some traps there people don't like it but I think it's an honest Alex. Collins had two hundred carries on the season but he was happy with that's true yeah we were looking at my Alex. Collins once comp for this year is the same exact situation with one exception of capital. It's in the same back. It's Mark Ingram marking rumors talking. Yeah you can be shocked. Here's what we know. Marking has replaced Alex Collins in that same system the same coach the same guys behind him Gus Edwards the a lot of weight or they drafted Justice Hill. You have Mark Ingram Look Justice. Heels family is in the audience of Justice help answer around here my goodness so here's the thing so when I was when I was researching searching this I took a look at what's being said to marking room. What what's the expectation for beat writers all of that and I found this article where Gus Edwards was talking about he had talked to the coaches before they he knew they were going to go out and find a veteran free agent to help share share the load with gusts and they were going to basically have a one two punch and so what do they do they went out and they signed a back who his whole career has been part of a one two punch? This is not a guy who's going to just carry the load of and be like well. The Baltimore Ravens run the ball so much. We're going to give him the all the time I would would rather than the timeshare for the saints then for the Ravens Look. I know the Ravens want to run a lot but you know the touchdowns aren't going to be there for the ravens like they weren't for the saints. Most people were disappointed with Mark Ingram last year he had some good Games had some bad games. I think right now marking going at the back of the third round that is way too high. You've still got Gus Edwards on that team what it Gus Edwards do last year. Once Lamar Jackson took took over US A. B.. He was a he was on a sixteen game. Pace of fifteen hundred rushing yards not just going to be like all right. We'll Merkin Ramseyer. sit down these like good running. The Guy Making the decisions talks like that. I want and on that organization yes so I mean to me. I just think is like sure. That's whatever you said. It's be so I mean to me. It's the same situation with the same players behind him. I think we'll be disappointed. In the draft capital. I like I like earnings. Bendix is weird. Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe I'm not around the right Mark Ingram fan circles but it's shocking to me. He's going where he's going because I haven't. I heard people excited about. This is a team football at time but nobody's like Tuten like the ceiling for Mark Ingram. Everybody's like yeah. He's not that high right I. I don't know why he's backing justice. Hill a lot of people like justice. Here's the thing that worries me a bit about Mark Ingram said for Derek running backs who will also catch the ball so you're talking about east sharing time with Gus Edwards and yes to his family justice ills a good running back. Who's going to catch the ball is going to be used as a pass catcher erase? Race you race it Nice Young. Yes good work. Everybody we're stepping out of the time machine were hit hitting the live mail back which means if neither prepare yourself if you were one of the Lucky lucky pretty selected few for the mailbag. Please approach the Mike. What are they behind me? I think they're behind you. I'm not sure that'd be really she's going to be really. Maybe they're coming out here so please lineup John New York and Chicago in the book so we know what they brought. You guys ready. I WANNA feeling in my bones. I want you to knock Jason Out of his chair here. We go mailbag the very happy with themselves. Mailbag they approve pretty good sounds pretty degree. That's right. No no no. No I think you took care of it. Took care of WHO's first question where are they in the dark off a little bit and it's all the way we make keep them down until Russell Wilson's gone what you got. What's your name and your question? Chill out. Go Hawks whoa okay bye. All right are keep cool. My baby's bothers Brian Near. Thanks for coming out so I've been doing a lot of market absolutely and I find myself liking a lot of later. I find myself getting wide receivers late guys answer a question we here. Let's let them speak so I like a lot of late wide receivers and I find myself not liking very many late running backs so does that entice you to drafts running back somewhat early or what's your guises approach. I think it's just the nature of the position I mean I'm the same as you like late. You wide receiver shots. I mean we talk all about Robbie Anderson and Dante Pettis to Sean Jackson. I mean I do want to put myself in a position to where you know what I believe about those guys. I WANNA take him. I WANNA put is hard to find running backs right yeah. This is the issue here is like okay. There's plenty of wide receivers you like at the back of the draft and there's probably not a lot of running backs. You like I mean you get to that tenth round and you're running bow my gosh around your seventh-round around. You're in trouble. You're going man. Do I want Jordan. How look in the tenth round you're deciding between Curtis Samuel a really good option wide receiver that could really hit or Ito Smith like those those are not in the same tier? They're going back to back and so yeah I mean I I'm with you. I started this season in most of my mock drafts in my early leagues thinking like I I like some of the depth that running back and I really wanted Stud wide receivers early we I like that approach but what happened was the end of the draft. The end of the draft was like well now I now I need running backs and they these guys all stink so you know in the future I started swift swift swatch as I always I'd say yes. I'm still an early scene. Recommend switch switch Swat Swat. Thank you thank you gotta hit next thank you eh what's up makes these plowed into the Mike. Can you hear me yes cool so without grades. The line in the best waters redo in the league kirk cousins emerges valuable fantasy quarterback this year kirk cousins. It didn't start that with good offensive line well he started and then he tutu teams wide receivers. Here's the thing done is whatever you want to believe about Minnesota's offense and where they're headed this appear cousins fits into the mold of post type sleeper so if you believe the things that you talked about your team and look their offense I think I just saw some publication the other day the ranking the fifth best offense in the League that's what they believed about the offensive line upgrades and when you have to wide receivers that compensates for a lot Dalvin Cook back in healthy. You believe a lot of good things about him. I think that makes cousins oppose type sleeper. I'm not like targeting him in-draughts. Here's the thing about Kirk causes as the starter. He's never thrown for fewer than four thousand yards. I mean that's that seems to be the benchmark that you want a quarterback to be able to hit forty three hundred yards and thirty touchdowns touchdowns people are just upset at the way that exists on high he high and drafts last year and he started out extremely hot. I I side with Andy that he's opposed type sleeper like we we were talking the crowd. We'd like Jimmy late but kirk cousins in just one of those late round quarterbacks that he very well could just be your quarterback for the entire season forty three hundred yards and thirty touchdowns three hundred yards and thirty touchdowns which if you look at the pace as of the beginning of the year is the whole on only reason why he had that then they fire their offense coordinator and they change their methodology. They have dalvand cook rumors out of Minnesota the goal line package. It's all about data and cook. This is a team that has a great defense right right and they want to be able to run the ball. I think they will be able to run the ball so if you think about pace of play right like the Vikings are not going to be one of those offenses that runs near the top in the league again plays the way that Kansas City is or something like that so. I think he's a good quarterback. If you're in two quarterback leagues that's Okay I obviously if he hits as her causes Matthew Stafford. I'll take cousins over matthew cousin Jameis Winston. I would take Winston for sure question. Thank you actually chart with a Bali Snake Turf Toe League Greatest League in the United States League shutout very impressive don't know he Besley states. Okay challenge your question Sir assuming I can't get any of the top twelve tight ends. I can't do the advanced dance. I gotta get laid around tied in. Who should I be targeting the names they keep coming up at the end in like desperation? Our names relies years ago a lot of time talking about Jordan Reed read about Greg Olsen Laney Walker and tyler I for like all of them are believe it or not starting tight ends in the N._F._l.. With a track record of productivity in the N._F._l.. Sell maybe you don't WanNa play Roulette let there is there a younger nothing exciting name I love. I was going to bring up Greg Olsen Delaney Walker. They're going very late BOO BOO be nine. All of those guys is Mark Andrews. Mark Andrews is well outside out of the top twelve. You're going to get him with your last picking any league you want and I'll just throw one other name out there. I know you're GONNA he's in Bay Dallas. Goddard is Oh stop it. Stop it me secondary secondary tight ends. You can find right here all right. Thanks very next Gore's true. Hey bowlers my name's Matthew and I'm a commissioner of new Dicey League this year and really the only thing that I'm struggling with is what would you guys think. 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12/15/2020 - HOUR 1 - Lamar, Browns, offense

The Herd with Colin Cowherd

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12/15/2020 - HOUR 1 - Lamar, Browns, offense

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It live every day on the iheartradio app by searching heard. You're listening to fox. Sports radio Here we go on a loaded. Tuesday live in los angeles. This is dr ward wherever you may be however you may be listening fox. Sports radio iheartradio. Fm lawn a pleasure. It is today one hour from now. My herd hierarchy. I thought i was getting hate mail. last week. cannot wait for pack show. What a game last. Night and joy taylor is joining me. What how much was that. Liz unbelievable talk so much fun. Top five monday night football game all time. We deserve that in two thousand twenty. We did really bad beat though. Come through someway all right. Let me start with you. Just keep telling me what lamar jackson can't do. Am i keep telling me. That's what he is doing. I thought he couldn't throw. I thought he couldn't come from behind. So you're either in the camp that i'm in which is the dude is special. It's not always pretty. But i love them or it's not gonna work so let me give you an example. Philip rivers has won fifty six percent of his games. He's the worst athlete quarterback in the nfl and has been for most of his career. He's got a decent armed good not special and his judgment. Not great led the. Nfl picks twice fifty six percent of his games. Many of you argue for him to be in the hall of fame. Lamar jackson is the single fastest athlete to ever play quarterback. Nobody looks like it judgment. Actually pretty good. He doesn't make a lot of terrible throws now. His arm is below average but he win seventy nine percent of his games in a really good division. And you guys are telling me this isn't gonna work. This is not gonna work. You keep telling me. No and i keep seeing yes. I'm all about special six to seven times last night. Minimum lamar jackson did something. You cannot duplicate in the nfl. No other player can do what he can do. And i'm saying six or seven times. He did two of them back to back. Baker mayfield had a good night. He didn't do a single thing. You couldn't duplicate that mahomes couldn't do russell couldn't do allen couldn't do and and baker played well not a criticism you duplicate that i can find that on the market lamar jackson's had back plays at one point that game. I'm like in the history of football. The only player that maybe could it as michael vick. Maybe are we indispensable his quarterback rating last night was one hundred sixteen now. I've heard this before he cannot throw. I watched football. Tim tebow control. Couldn't throw at one. Point was fourth on the denver. Brees a first round pick was fourth on their quarterback. Depth chart colin kaepernick had no touch swing pass. He was on a ninety nine mile. An hour heater. I have watched the more jackson. Go ten for ten against colts. Defense in the second half at indianapolis and win. And i watched him last time. I thought he couldn't come from behind. I guess he can they trailed. He came in cramps. Threw him out there. The game changed. There's also these things you'll love dak. There's not a lot of special but you love the intangibles. Lamar jackson is a leader. His teammates loving his coaches love. He's coach -able he's not defensive about his criticisms like an aaron rodgers he embraces it like. I know it's not pretty. I know the slow mo version of him throwing a football is not exactly nfl films. Its hide your ice stuff. It's like oh this is. This is painful and he misses some open throws but he is so unique and so gifted at so many other things. I don't get the argument. T-boz career passer rating was seventy-five camper knicks was in the eighty eighty s. And you defend him to the end. Lamar jackson's career passer rating. This year is ninety five. And you're all complaining. It's an off year. It's at ninety. Five and that division is arguably joe burrow is healthy the best division in football. He didn't get a lot of days off. Philip rivers also who some of you are use a hall of famer didn't start until twenty-five lamar's twenty-three we're not seeing the best of getting better and better and better. Listen iowa said this about mike tyson. When you're a boxer and you scare other heavyweight boxers. Tyson was totally flawed at the end of his career. He didn't even jab. But you pay to watch. Tyson tyson with special tyson scared other heavyweights lamar jackson. Have you ever known a pro athlete. Have you ever been around a pro athlete. Like i've had a few pro athlete friends and like you play. Pick up game with them and like the football player. Among a bunch of basketball players is much better than everybody else on the court. Much like mike. Tyson scared other heavyweights. Lamar jackson makes other professional athletes. Look so stupid and so inept and so slow you love. Philip rivers terrible athlete iffy judgment decent arm. Lamar the best athletes in the world. He has good judgment. It looks like crap a lot of times. It looks terrible. But he's got touch. He could come from behind. I don't get it if you didn't see by the way the reason baltimore won. They trailed when he came back from cramps. Let's give you didn't see the game winning kick here his mortgage the whole talk. This kick is traveling down the middle and with seconds left to play pays enough and the ravens are on path to make the playoffs with it on believable. comeback fun. now. Let's address it from the cleveland side and it's not about baker will not really so a lot of you. You're saying well i mean. Colin lamar was great and south. But cleveland's defense is terrible. The reasons for cleveland's defense being inept especially in the back seven is the. Cleveland has such a sad and embarrassing. History of whipping on quarterbacks that when john dorsey and cleveland drafted baker mayfield a reach at number one they created an overspent to build a fortress around him to ensure he would look okay so when they sign this contract with. Ob j. i set at the time. Why he doesn't wanna be there. You're you're spending a fortune on jarvis landry white. Why are you doing this. What are you doing last night. They dropped forty. Two with out oh. Bj the offense has better without him when they signed. Austin hooper at the time the highest contract for a tight end i said i like austin hooper but they had david and do and they went out and drafted tied in the fourth round. Who won the award for the best tight end in the country to go have to spend for austin hooper. So you have. Ob jane austen hooper. Neither played last night and you scored forty two points. That ain't a problem. The problem is cleveland's back seven avenue players folks. They overspend so much on the offense. There's a salary cap in this league. The browns spend five point five million on a swing tackle. He doesn't start five. Point five and chris hubbard swing tackle. That's more than a pay anybody in the back seven. That's what you're back seven terrible. They pay their backup quarterback case keenum six million dollars. That's more than anybody in the back. Seven to sit and watch the games. cleveland self. Esteem is so low at quarterback that they've built this incredible all star fortress of receiving in tight end and offensive line and running back town around him to ensure see. We told you that wasn't a reach. He's really good. And that's why you're not a super bowl team. Your defense in the back sevens awful. It's there's guys back there that are not starters in the nfl. It's awful so it'd be one thing if it was just like baltimore's got a good defense but there are secondary which is their strength was all banged up last night so and you can say but baker baker look good. Baker started looking good last night when the baltimore secondary jimmy smith got hurt. Marcus peters got banged up. Came back was never the same so this you can blame the cleveland defense but there was no reason no reason to bring an ob j. He didn't want to be there. You already had a star receiver wide receiver and weapons. We're not your issue. And though i like. Austin hooper. I i liked him but but then you drafted another tight end. You had david and joe coon. He didn't really need it but he is good. And i like him but will be. Jane austen didn't even play last night. You drop forty two and the reason you lost the game is because you're not spending any money on the back seven and when you lead football games in the nfl in the afc. And you're going to face josh allen and patrick mahomes or maybe a derek carr and you lead a game and you need to stop. You ain't gonna get it in that the events so i thought i thought baker was fine but i think this organization to overcompensate for him. You can't babysit baker. Josh allen has an average offensive line. He still wins. Lamar jackson has below average wide receiving talent. He's still winning. They're trying to create this perfect offense to ensure baker works and in the process. They've overspent tied and they've overspent wide receiver. They're not even spending any money running back right. Now they're going to eventually have to pay chick a job a fortune and he's probably gonna be worth it so. This is what i always. There are certain like cities in america. They have low sport self esteem and to ensure baker is an a bust. They've built a fortress but that back end is a bunch of law. Earning average talent guys stop babysitting baker. Nobody's got a perfect offense. Outside of patrick mahomes got one. He's got at some point win games with an average joe. Line with okay to below average receivers. Because lamar jackson did last night. He won a football game and a bad receiving core. It really is a bad receiving corps in baltimore all right. I got so much stuff today. Hurt hierarchy top next. Our great news could not be better. News for aaron rodgers and i am mr optimism. Mr glass half full with aaron rodgers tremendous news for aaron coming up be sure to catch live editions of the heard weekdays at noon eastern nine. Am pacific on fox sports radio s one and the iheartradio app. We've read the request. We've seen the sign petitions. We've even heard the conspiracy theory that the last remaining mic ribs are hidden in a secret vault in the middle of the macdonald. Mountain and lamola washington can't confirm or deny take a deep breath. We're here to put your inspiring thoughts to rest at least for a limited time because the mcrib is back and for the first time in nearly a decade. 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Every couple of weeks credit for this This is something that was out there but he wrote about and he talked about mike. Shanahan is one of the great all-time coaches and i tend to be a believer in. It's not just about you in life. What is your legacy. What are you. Leave a andy reid. Coaching tree is amazing. Mike holmgren bill walsh's coaching tree Mike shanahan's is just unbelievable. And mike shanahan. The legend was in. Dc a few years ago our g three one rookie of the year with mike shanahan and on that staff was matt lafleur now. Coaching green bay. Sean mcvay now. Coaching the rams and his son kyle shanahan very successful. Coach in san francisco and mike runs He has the shanahan offense. It's zone blocking zone. Run scheme with some west coast principles. It's very complex and the key to. It is year two. So it takes quarterbacks a year to figure it out in year two of this system jared goff with mcveigh got to a super bowl in year. Two matt ryan with kyle. Shanahan got to a super bowl in year. Two jimmy garoppolo with kyle got to a super bowl in year. Two with matt lafleur. Aaron rodgers is having by far and away the scariest season in the nfl. Just great you know at everything and this is the offense that always had an year. Two of it. Elway went thirteen into by year. Three elway won the super bowl by year. Four elway had won back to back super bowls. So that's why we try to add context to this stuff and rare goriness column a great job. Some of this stuff is just hard. We don't have a preseason we don't have camps you know if you go look at. Tom brady numbers this year. He set to blow away all of tampa's historic quarterback numbers and. We're all crushing him. So goth matt ryan and shanahan in garoppolo in year to got two super bowls errands better them and in some cases a lot better year to matt lafleur absolutely on fire with the mike shanahan system. And what what is also amazing. Is that the washington football team. Had sean mcvay matt lafleur and kyle shanahan in the building at the same time. I may have wanted to retain one of those guys. Not nothing gets ron rivera. But it is not pensively joy. Take over the news on the news. This is the third line news calling this a lot of conspiracy theories floating around out there in the world today and you propose conspiracy as much as a theory about what's bill check and the patriots might to week seventeen. They play the jazz. They lost to the jets. The jets wouldn't get trevor lawrence and belichick wouldn't have to face in division. The jags would get well. He's remained committed to cam newton as the patriots starter so far but jarrett stidham to get some action last week against the rams once again bella check was asked about the possibility of making a change. A quarterback talking about going into this game. There's a little bit different. Maybe the chargers game was forty five. Nothing but he was putting that game at ten minutes because he felt like he gave you the best chance to come back and win. This game is that right. Oh no mama. Getting an opportunity deployed. Would there be a a situation that you would be open to play both guys them and cam kind of where we are right now. So we're not there okay. So that's the key. Were not there right now. The word is now if somebody went to you and was something joy and said People thought you know. Join me do this or that and somebody said joy. Are you going to do this. And you're like well. I'm not there now. That basically the now gives you the opportunity. You're not held to what you're not you're not culpable. You're not beholden. Anything right now. I work here. I do this. I'm willing to go there. So belichick is setting up a week. Seventeen start jared up the doors open now. That was not a conclusive statement. Thank you might be onto something. There and the current draft order is the jets. Still have the number one pick then the jags and the bengals chargers cowboys. Panthers falcons dolphins via houston. Eagles have a lot of talent to be picking fourth and they had a very very rough season. I know but they got a lot of players. And they got the quarterback right. So i mean naked trade down but i i seriously with the chargers. How many players can make the roster. I mean they outside offensive line that a look look out and get that as soon that left tackle if the chargers get him for herbert and he gets the best left tackle prospect in five years. Wow well the bengals chargers assuming the cowboys quarterback so that's three of the top five. But i would say this. The bengals and the cowboys. Joy could benefit from moving down and getting multiple players. The chargers could write what they could benefit from is getting the best left tackle for ten years to replace justin herbert okay. So the first two teams taking quarterback thirteen to take buzney sewell. That's exactly what the chargers need bengals trade down on. I think someone's straight up and are straight up and get a left tackle the quarterbacks so they see someone traces the bengals at the third spot. That makes perfect charge. They don't have to move and they get him. I could argue. the bingles. don't need to left tackle. They have jona williams. The kid from alabama whose a terrific player. I gotta tell you something that we're not you chargers. What are they need on that. Roster a left tackle to protect herbert for decade. Wow straps going to be something so the chiefs moved into the top spot in the afc with the steelers loss of the bills and with the only the one seed getting a by this season. Patrick mahomes knows how crucial it is to hold onto that position. It is important and we believe that no matter what happened we would have a chance to find ways to win football game and make a run but obviously it could be the number one now. I mean you gotta make sure you hold on to it that by makes you have everybody healthy everybody ready to go and then and they appear in a huge amount of who you played. We're excited for. We're excited to be able to control our own destiny. So the their schedules. At the saints falcons and the chargers. The steelers remaining schedules at the bengals colts at the browns. But even if the steelers went out the chiefs would only need to win one of their remaining. Nfc matchup so they'd have to beat the falcons the saints and be chargers in week. Seventeen to clinch the number one seat so they basically have to go to. obviously they. Beat the chargers sealers obviously weren't soon. They're going to beat the bengals and the colts. The browns are not getting game. So this is this is looking like it's set up for the chiefs to get the number one seed things so different for the steelers this year because not only is that by very valuable and there's only one of them. The steelers bye week was a long time ago. So they're gonna have in playing game after game after game with no rather than have to go on a playoff run joy. Who's the best coach in the nfl. Off by andy reid. So good luck to the team. That faces the best team in the football off by with maybe schematically the best coach. We've had in twenty years. Andy reid it set up for them to do that. So mike mccarthy's the cowboys was a little disappointing. There's been some speculation that they might not stick with him. And it'd be a one and done. But stephen jones put any rumors about that to rest for dallas in two thousand twenty one. Now there'll be no change with mccarthy you know if you look at his track record there's pedigree these consistently one year in and year out and we have the utmost confidence that this is going to be writing quickly and marks going to be the leader of this group and he certainly are great head coach this morning. Jerry jones also said it was ridiculous to think that they'd be making a head coach in fairness to mike mccarthy since the by goulet. I know you're hater on the cowboys. But since the by they've been a limited team based on offensive line injuries and andy dalton but since the the beat minnesota that beaten cincinnati pittsburgh a real game there. Let's be honest. Be fair with the cowboys. There was pre by fire. Everybody post by your like if you put in a healthier left. Tackle you eight nine games. Since since the by they've only been blown out twice. John you always go to the negative. They've also got a win over minnesota a win over cincinnati. Well he isn't his first year. He lost his franchise quarterback. It's a cova year lines. A mass aligns disaster and so is the defense now. You could argue that. He's responsible for any side of the ball Being a mess. But he can't controlled act. You can't control kobe if you look at the coaching records with Teams with first year coaches temps fancies nine and four ron rivera. Six and seven. Joe judge's five. Am mike mccarthy and matt role are four nine now when you look at this situation with matt rule. May you could argue. Maybe he should have more wins but we knew they were going to struggle this year but mccarthy lost his. Yep he lost quarterback so i let's just mccarthy's going to be here. I had no thought no thought at all they were going to move on from him even if that had the entire season. It's just it's really not how organizations should be running like you need more than one year to establish anything and if now listen if there one running winning three or four games with zak. Maybe you have that conversation. But i still think he needs more time. Give it to him. Yeah fair joy with the news. Well that's the news and thanks for stopping by the heard lie news. You know i was thinking about this this morning when my wife sometimes we have a lot of kids and so we talk a lot about kids and i always have. This rule was just talking a really good friend the other day about this as i say whenever you have issues with your kids and there's just you can't have five or six kids in the just all perfect like their little their little humans they you know their brains are forming and whenever my wife Kinda gets rid of concern. I always say would you have signed up for the current situation ten years ago. So give an example. Let's just say not saying this happened but if it did one of our kids got caught smoking pot and my wife would be like okay. This and i would say time out if i told you ten years ago. We got six kids. We live in california. The most liberal state in the country and one of our kids may have smoked to join. I'm just going to tell you the dad. I would have signed up for that. There's a lot worse stuff. So i always have that. That kind of rule is apparent. Is i made a lotta mistakes as a kid. But i think if you'd ask my mom would just sign up for a goofy kid who loves sports and one time almost blew the house up but was a pretty good kid. Being got be pluses my mom would have said. Yeah so. Tom brady thing. Everybody is freaking out. So i just wanna i. I wanna remind everybody on this. Tom brady thing. If i would have said this before the season he is on paced. The throw for thirty seven touchdowns. Fourteen picks forty three hundred yards. Ninety six point five passer rating and a sixty five percent completion percentage and go eleven and five or ten in six. Would you have signed up for it with no preseason for a forty three year old quarterback tom brady is. He is on pace. Tampa bay has been around since nineteen seventy six. It is now twenty. Twenty five years of a franchise right. He's going to set their passing. Touchdown record their passer rating record. And he's probably gonna go because they play atlanta twice detroit once he's gone golden five. Let's just say ten and six. They split with atlanta context context context. in fact. I was thinking about this this morning. Is that because he's brady and we tend to overreact on mondays or after standalone games. We all freaked out about that chicago loss. He's screaming at teammates. They had thirteen penalties. So i thought to myself okay. let's go back. What have been the five craziest losses in the nfl. This year. the first one was week one when the jags in tank mode beat the colts or on a the. Jags haven't won since so the jags beat the colton week. One and we were all rightly thinking. This is nonsense. This is not the nfl. The jags not won a game since in week. Five the raiders go to arrowhead and beat kansas city in week eight. The bengals beat the titans actually kick their ours in week. Thirteen the giants colt mccoy go to seattle and beat them and this weekend jalen hurts. Beats the saints. Tom's not even in one of the five crazy losses context. They went on the road to chicago a team that just blew out deshaun watson them and they lost by one to the bears again with a bunch of new parts against a very good defense. We go slow down like what tom is doing. We would have signed up for. I think tom would have signed up for time. You're gonna throw for thirty seven touchdowns forty three hundred yards and go ten and six or eleven. Five privately. tom. Brady would have signed up for that. He would have signed up for it. Peter king now joining us football morning in america peter king. Nbc sports dot com brought mercedes benz the best or nothing so i am in the lamar jackson camp. He wins seventy nine percent of his games. He's the best athlete in. Football is a position. He is shown he can come from behind. And my argument is we. Defend philip rivers for years. Who is the worst athlete in. The league at the position had sometimes spotty judgment and had a good arm not great and one fifty six percent of his games and there are people that will argue. He's a hall of famer. My argument is lamar's winning martin. Lamar's having a down year as passer rating is ninety five. I thought he did six or seven things last night. Peter nobody in football could duplicate. Nobody i love the kid. I think he's got passion and spirit but there are those who still questioned him this morning. How do you feel about. Lamar jackson franchise quarterback in july and august. And i had this conversation with somebody with the ravens. I said man i. I don't feel good about sort of the way that i think. Lamar is going to play. Which is to run ten twelve thirteen times every week. Eight ten twelve. Let's say and this guy said this is what lamar does i think. Basically i mean. I don't remember exactly but i mean it was basically. We don't wanna neuter him k. And so last night. I watched that game and i said lamar jackson should play like this. Yeah he should take off. Yeah because he is. He is a weapon. Anybody unlike russell wilson unlike mahomes unlike taste some hill. I unlike anybody even unlike the shawn watson and the reason that he is is that he can be a blip on the radar screen. He can make people miss who are right in front of him. And so i think last night showed me that i mean look last year. I was kind of fluky that he led the nfl. Touchdown passes. I don't know that will ever do that again. But he needs to play with his legs. He's not only an exciting player but he is a winning player with his legs. Yeah thank you. He's a winning player. You know it's funny not everything. Also i've talked about friends. Not everything lasts a lifetime. You don't marry everybody a date. I mean let's say he lasted seven years. Seven years of lamar. He got hurt like winning. Seven games all take that for seven years over. Fourteen years of average that colin. But think but think about this. Think about it this way. Okay if you told lamar stay in the pocket. We only want you running three times a game and only when forced. Okay do that. And you're gonna last thirteen to fifteen years or or who knows maybe even longer or you could be relatively speaking a meteor across the nfl sky and being the peak of your game for ten years. What would you take. He's definitely take the ten. I'll worry about two thousand thirty in two thousand or two thousand twenty nine for the draft. I believe i think buffalo. The history of the steelers in buffalo is not that different except one one all the superbowls they were in you know and the other one had lost it. But they're both proud franchises. That have won. Had a lot of great players. And i said the other day watching the steelers bills. It was like watching the steelers thirteen years ago. Ben was in like year four. He was taking off the coaches. From william and mary defensive coach and we he may not be the best young quarterback there. Was this kid named manning tom brady. But i gotta tell you when. I look at josh allen and sean mcdermott. I honestly think this morning. That is a top three. I don't think i'm hyperbolic. I think it's a top three franchise for the next decade and the nfl. That's how strongly i feel about buffalo this morning. Your thoughts yeah. I don't know the top three. We'll see i think they gotta do something. I colin and again. I think right. Now that Josh allen has got a good chance to be a jim kelly type force in the nfl but again look. I'm a little hesitant of you know handing buffalo this title that title and every other title because they haven't won anything yet they haven't done anything basically in twenty five years and again. I'm not holding that against him. I just want to see it. You know. I want to see what happens in a huge game in january. That's when legends are made. That's when great franchises are made jalen hurts. Let's say he goes. I think. I think they're going to lose arizona but let's just say he wa. He beat the saints. He's got three games laughed. He goes a two in one so we ended up being three and one but he completes sixty one percent of his throws. You know it's more run than throw. D have a solution or a problem in philadelphia. What do you make of what happened this weekend. I think that. I want to at the end of this season. Let's assume that the eagles don't make the playoffs. Okay and at the end of the season i want to do. If i'm doug peterson. If i'm howie roseman. If i'm jeffrey lurie i want all the emotions to die down for six weeks. Okay i want everybody to go away. I want everybody to think and then february fifteenth week after the super bowl. Let's have either a meeting or zoom meeting. You know and if if we can let's have a meeting and discuss where everything is and what everybody wants and by that i mean if if in that meeting carson wentz says i want out i absolutely want out. Make the best deal you can for me. I'm not going to be a good guy if you don't trade me okay. Well and i don't think he would do that but who knows. I don't know what will happen. And you know if. I'm the eagles at that time. I have to determine whether i want to take a pretty major cap. Hit in twenty twenty one and go with the kid who's making nothing on the cap and go with the kid and and basically try to do the best deal i can for carson wentz and that's probably the way i do it to me colin. I think the team that would be most interesting in the most interest. Stead is indianapolis. It makes all the sense in the world reunited with frank reich. It's in central indiana. Everything is nice calm and cool and there's not a wip sports radio is just obnoxious. Okay finally i think i would vote aaron rodgers. Mvp could make the argument from a homes. I think we'd but we kind of know where that's at. Let's talk coach of the year. I do not remember a year where there's more legitimate candidates for coach of the year. I love what sean mcdermott doing i just. I think what they have done to. Josh allen is amazing. I think i'd probably go. Mcdermott do you have a coach of the year this morning. Yeah i love that pick. Because i think the one thing i really i always say about these awards. Is that their sixteen game awards. We have thirteen sixteenths of the evidence right now for this award so all you can do is say if the season ended today who would i vote for. Two weeks ago. I would've said number one mike. Tomlin number two stefanski number. Three brian flurries. Today there's a good chance. I would say sean mcdermott. Although i wanna see if mike tomlin gets them out of the muck in the yeah and if the steelers can come back. I don't mean like this week in cincinnati. Okay but i mean you know finishing off the season in style winning week. Seventeen at cleveland. If they can come back and play well down the stretch. There's a good chance. I'd still go with tomlin. Goodstuff peter king nbc sports dot com pro football hall of fame on that committee since ninety two a member of the board of selectors as always peter. Great sena thank you colin. I do think he makes a good point. Indianapolis is just less yelling. More calming nothing against philadelphia. Why we love. Philadelphia is the passion. But maybe it's engulfing a young quarterback carson wentz. It's just engulfing him all right coming up next. Why something about last night really and maybe baltimore and cleveland fans hate hearing this and it's a compliment but it doesn't sound like it that's coming up. Be sure to catch live editions of the heard weekdays at noon eastern nine. 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This is like already wrapping paper and presents and hiding stuff and and the cooking. Everybody starting right so been goodness. We've got that clark staff to help clean because that's been a game changer. This episode of wind down as presented by clorox disinfecting mopping clause which kill ninety nine point nine percent of germs including covid nineteen virus. There easy and safety us on multiple floor types which means you and your family don't have to worry about those pesky germs when used as directed on hard nonporous surfaces kill sars cov to covid nineteen virus. Sometimes just just do something. That's fun so i am going to just spend a minute on here. Story time with your favourite uncle uncle colin. So john if you could let's have Storytime with uncle com some story so years ago my kids were small and i used to work at another big sports company. I don't know what happened to them. I've heard it's not all good news. Anyway there was an amusement park right. Next to the company i used to work for it was called lake compounds. It was predictably awful food. They bragged ahead. The world's oldest roller coaster. It wouldn and it hurt to ride. I'm ganglion tall. It was it was painful. It least wants an afternoon. It would get stuck at the top and you'd be like oh. This is not great. My son loved it so we would go like three times in the summer and eat crappy food and they had this pirate ship. That had water flying everywhere. It was so unhealthy but yet i knew it wasn't disneyland but i felt like a good dad. Every time i drive home. I look at my son. He was son bert. He was soaked. His teeth were rotting because of the cotton candy. But i felt like a good dad mon i. I always slept well that night. All right the story times over. It didn't really go anywhere but the point being is sometimes fun is good enough. Just last night was fun. These are not super bowl teams. They're not. Cleveland has spent way too much money on offense. They're back. Seven is atrocious in conference with josh allen. And patrick mahomes you. Could you could outplay the chiefs and the bills and lead by fourteen. And you couldn't hold to leave that defense in baltimore. Today is not a playoff team. Both may make it. But i'm watching that last night. I'm like this is kind of a mess. Quarterback leaves he's got crabs and let's be honest cleveland's offense started looking good when baltimore was having these secondary issues which their teams really built around. But don't compare this member a couple years ago. We had the rams play the chiefs on monday night football but those teams were both nine and one and those teams we were talking about a super bowl preview with mahomes and goffin. Mcvay and andy reid nine in one. It was a wild and that game was better than this game. Does it just was. This was too good teams. One may not make the playoffs. Neither neither as a shot at the super bowl. I think baltimore has a better shot. Because lamar lamar just stuff. Nobody else can do in. The market could be the craziest thing in the world of lamar. Jackson goes to the playoffs. They get in week seventeen out of a by if they play. Kansas city and kansas city's a dog a little tight and the margot's nuts and all of a sudden one or two fumbles by kansas city and lamar short field and leading all of a sudden. He didn't the play from behind but like last night to me was. I was sitting there watching. I'm like this is just a top five circus on monday. Night football ever. It was a circus. It was it was. I mean everything it had. It had all the elements. The comeback baker lamar. And you're seeing stuff you'd never see in. The cramps runs out on the field and he saves the day but like like collins story about late compounds. The wooden roller coaster wasn't that safe and it hurt to ride. Somebody could have really been injured seriously. 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Best of Straight Outta Vegas with RJ Bell: 09/04/2020

Straight Outta Vegas with RJ Bell

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Best of Straight Outta Vegas with RJ Bell: 09/04/2020

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Let's get in the NBA now I because we've gotta talk about what happened in the bubble last night in Orlando between the clippers and the Denver Nuggets that was a wipeout that game wasn't close Steve as IQ yet Denver I could argue just hasn't been the same since halftime game seven against Utah Joe ingles hard foul on Jamal Murray there and Murray did not look right Murray struggled in the second half shooting and it wasn't just Murray the entire Denver team look like they were gassed right Jonas during the entire game but Jamal Murray. He took control against Utah and here he was just passing two teammates. He looked less than one hundred percent to me. What did you see? Yeah. No, they didn't look completely healthy earn I don't know if it was healthier. They just looked fatigue. They look like they put everything into that series because it's one thing if you go seven games and other thing to have to win out to be down three games to one like they. were, and after rattled off that many wins in a row, it's emotionally draining. It felt like that was a natural letdown spot for them and the clippers got solid production and this is the frustrating thing about the La. Clippers you look at him and you go okay they may have the best player in the NBA Inqui- Leonard they've got a deep bench. They've got a coach who's won a title before and coached in multiple NBA finals. Before and has had success at this level. So why can't they do this consistently and they've got to be one of those teams Fez whereas professional better. You look at the clippers and you go God this team's maddening to have to try and handicap because you don't know what version of them you're going to get from one game to the next. Yeah and the clippers the the book on them was that they're gonNA GEL at some. Point they've got all these the two superstars come in they add new pieces and there was a feeling during the summer camp in Orlando. This team could get really good with everyone practicing, and then all of a sudden Lou Williams and company decide that summer camp was optional and they had five guys that weren't there during part of the time do day injury to vid or due to personal issues, and it looks like the clippers. At least recently are finally starting to bond together and Jonas. The clippers are now the favorite to win the NBA title plus ten. So you bet one hundred on the clippers, you only get back to ten clippers are the favourite says, let me just introduce you to the new world. I. Don't know if you're familiar with this world, but I'll I'll walk you through it here it's called hindsight twenty twenty betting to where after a result happens you go back and you claim of course, that's how that game played out. Now I don't know if it's ever GonNa win you any money. You probably need one of those back to the future biff sports almanacs to go back and win. All your pets if that's if that's the way you wanNA play it but it's called hindsight twenty twenty betting. So I will tell you this St Fezzet that in hindsight the clippers beating the nuggets and blowing them out is exactly how that game was going to go. Now did I place any money on it absolutely not why I don't have any money to bet on it but never mind all that. Here's the point, Jamal. Murray. If you paid close enough attention to this, he told you how this game was going to go. This was moments after their game seven win earlier this week when he was on with Scott Van Pelt on espn between now and Thursday what do you do? Thursday. Today's off. Stars Man. Well that's a bummer. He was telling you what was going to happen now again, I didn't do it but hindsight says he was one hundred percent correct. This is the spot on. This is the bet to make. Did you hear that from Jamal Murray if you didn't hear that how much more would you have put down on the clippers to win that game last night I did hear it and I gotta be honest I bet the clippers but the point spread. Tax was high in the clippers. There are nine point favorite but I made a much bigger bet on Jamal Murray to go under twenty four and a half. There's a wall. Street expression Jonas when a stock has been going up up up, trees cannot grow to the sky and Jamal Murray stock had become. So Sky with two fifty point games against Utah that everyone seemingly ignored. The fact that Joe ingles obliterated him and he was off on. The second half three for fourteen hobbling around you heard the quote didn't look like he was pleased about playing Thursday and clearly this was a I don't want to call it a business decision but Murray was not all out twelve points in game one year under twenty four and a half. One of the best bet you could make an actually I did give that one out to my client. So I was on top of that one you. Know I gotTA. Tell you following the Orlando Bubble Day in day out and the prophets and the like you can really find some nice bed to dig in enough well, now, you may look at it as similar to Wall Street, and that's how you sort of quick things because you're on a different level when it comes to finances and economy and things like that that I am I look like L. K. Walking through a casino in Vegas. and. You're just mangled. You've been drinking all day. You've been by the pool and you happen to see Roulette Board and the way my mind works is It black or read like ten to twelve times in a row. The first thing I'm doing is going the opposite because I go love averages. What's what are the chances can happen again? So I would have applied that to Jamal Marine said, what are the chances he's GonNa have this bonkers performance like he's at all these other games in the past and I would've won but again, I didn't. Have the balls to make the pick. So this is a hindsight, twenty twenty and I'm telling you right now if we made that a feature on this show to where I could tell you what was going to happen in a game after it happened I could make some money. Fez telling you right now, a whole lot of people could do that, and in fact, whenever I get a text. From someone who tells me? Hey, this was one of my biggest bedside made all year Fez I cast it I always text back. No past posts if you don't tell me before the game I, don't WanNa. Hear about it fair enough. All right. So Steve Jonas knocks in for RJ Bell here on straight Outta Vegas last thing on clippers nuggets. So you mentioned the La Clippers and their NBA? Title odds water the odds on this series as a right now, if you wanted to get gutsy or some would call it dumb and bet on the nuggets, what would the payout be based on what we saw last night in Orlando you can get twenty, two, one on Denver One dollars twenty Jonas. But if you feel that this series is already over, you can bet the clippers you can. Get this to win one dollar so The clippers are fifty to one in this series. Yes they are so vegas as saying. Jomar in company you can just go home right now this series is essentially over wow interesting be sure a catch live editions of straight Outta Vegas Weekdays at six PM Eastern Three PM Pacific on Fox sports radio in the iheartradio APP it's been a while since we've been out on the road it's all still out there sale oh, again with a Mazda with. 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Steve You know that made up thing momentum that people like to point to and don't really know how what it Actually is and it's not really there's a real physical evidence of momentum, but nonetheless, people are pointing to momentum for the Toronto Raptors and you're not so sure that's how things are GonNa go I'm not sold on any momentum. The series I've seen as Boston has been the better team in Game One, game two and game three. You know think about the narrative if that miracle three pointer doesn't go in then all of a sudden it's like this was just a wipeout Boston absolutely dominating they didn't even get a good game from Taetan. Game three and they should have won. So Toronto is lucky to only be down one to at this point and clear to me that Boston's the better team and part of is the matchup. Toronto is struggling with the lack of pace that one four they got last night was the most they've gotten in any of the three games Toronto, very important for them to score in transition they lead the. NBA and fast-break points twenty eight per game and Boston's a top five team at stopping the fast break and that's slow down the Toronto guards and I got to tell you the bench pals a really good player off the bench in transition. He is not been seen from. So it's Baca and nobody else off the bench for Toronto who does not look deep at all and look Jason Tatum was. Not. Good. Last night he didn't play. Well, he didn't shoot it well, and the fact that Jason Tatum didn't play that well, and it took that for Toronto to get one game and it was blown assignment defensively as much as we people want credit nick nurse and the ad of balanced play. It was a blown assignment defensively for the Boston Celtics and they were able to hit a shot and Rattled in a three from the corner and they get a game. So I can understand if this next game was in Toronto. If you wanted to talk about momentum I totally get it but the fact that we're on a neutral floor I just don't buy into that in this situation I I really don't I don't buy into all my God total chaos what a performance the raptors have all the momentum. What momentum they're playing in front of video screens. This is still going to come down to WHO's been the better team and to your point the Celtics have been the better team so far in the series now, as far as the odds go, where does Boston Stan not only in the series but as far as the NBA title goes as they are now two wins. Away from the Eastern Conference finals. So the Celtics are the number three team to win the title at six to One. The Celtics are favored in the series minus two tents risk to ten to win honored. So Vegas saying the Celtics should win the series about two thirds of the time. I got to tell you Jonas game four. I am really surprised by this line I'm. GonNa make a bold prediction here. Boston is catching one point game four against Toronto that just cannot be right. My number's say Boston's a slightly better team and I don't think on an island by any stretch and the situation with the Zigzag RJ spoke about this throughout the week, and it's done a great job talking about when you lose a game that benefits you in the. Next game, you're the team that gets to make the adjustments. You're the team that comes out a little bit hungrier. I would be very surprised if by the time the game doesn't tip off that Boston doesn't become the favourite. If you liked the Celtics which I do I would bet the Celtics right now in fact Jonas call an audible best bet here in the a block. Celtics. Plus the one look at you go into the holster not a best bet this early in the show what is that going to be four best bets on this show of you've heard have you ever had four best bets in one show? Fez. Not on this show I don't think my God football season's done. Amazing. You flip the calendar September and all of a sudden Fez wheel and deal in here on national radio. Here's the other thing. This whole idea that somehow the Toronto Raptors were better team without Leonard and everyone wants to point to the record and their record without Kawhi and all this stuff you're seeing in this series as you advance from one level to the next in the NBA playoffs, players win these games. The best players on the floor are going to be the best players out there. Toronto doesn't have anybody as good as Jason. Tatum if this was a Leonard Toronto Raptors team, we're talking about a whole different. Situation. The fact that anybody thought Toronto without Kawhi Leonard was going to somehow some way better than they were the year before I just don't buy it and I felt like that was a lot of people who were pointing to look at their record without Kawhi Nick nurse deserves to be coach of the year. This team is somehow better without Kawhi Leonard they're not I think the record was deceiving and I think we're seeing play out in the postseason and I do think Toronto is a bully that when they're playing a team that doesn't play defense and isn't a good team you know Siachen lowery and Van Vliet can go and flex their muscles and play very well but when they play Top competition they've certainly struggled I know against the Celtics they're two and five straight up. Against the spread Toronto does not have the luck of a team that can compete with the NBA elite be sure to catch live editions of straight Outta Vegas Weekdays at six PM Eastern Three PM Pacific St Physique NFL preview. Time we've been counting down thirty two all the way to one your top teams in the NFL which brings us today to two teams and we're going to start with team number five and that team is none other the Dallas cowboys and I like the Dallas Cowboys over ten wins. You know I'm surprised that I'm going over ten with Dallas here but the more it dig into Dallas's season last. Year Jonas this is a team they've only won eight games. They really should have won either ten or eleven games how in the world of this team only one eight well, they went oh, and five on their close games and some of those were gut wrenching losses including the loss against Minnesota where they just kept handing it to Zeke Elliott, instead of winning the game really tough loss against New Orleans bottom line. If they go to one of those games as I should have, Dallas would have been ten five and one team. So if they should've won ten games last year this year if I look at coaching. I have my questions about McCarthy and I, my questions about a new coach, the transition and Cova deer with limited practices. But absolutely could not stand Garrett and his in game decisions that he made I have to feel that that is an upgrade in coaching and I think that will get Dallas to eleven wins I'm looking I, Bet Dallas over ten wins best bet and I liked Dallas in that division as well. Too I. Just I've way too many concerns about Philadelphia. I. Think. Philadelphia's the only other team that that I look at that can compete with the Dallas Cowboys on not sold on Carson Wentz. Healthwise I'm just not I'm not sold on what Philadelphia's got. Going on especially with all these cluster injuries as you like to call it at the offensive line position May Jason Peters agreed to play guard now they wanted to move back to tackle and he's telling him of you want me to move to tackle a pay raise I mean to me that just seems like it might be a little bit problematic before the season starts, but nonetheless, I'm not I'm not buying into Philly and I do like Dallas. I also wonder about the coaching in limited availability and the opportunity for Mike McCarthy to really get his hands on that offense. But everything that we've heard is that Mike McCarthy's not going to be calling the plays they're offensively. And that it's going to be the offensive coordinator, who is there a year ago his name is slipping my mind formed more more former quarterback I think lefty and I think Boise State, and for some reason I was crossing the streams I don't know why. But nonetheless Kellen Moore is going to be the offensive coordinator Jim and according to Mike McCarthy he's going to be the guy calm plays. Yes. So there is some continuity there and I think. You bring up a really strong point. oftentimes when you're betting on a team, you WANNA look at their opponents and division, and ideally you want to not like their opponents. Now, Dallas is favored to win the division. Now they're minus one thirty and a big part of it is that philly absolutely has gotten bad news lost to wineman. So cluster injuries as we mentioned on the line wide receivers, two of the three starting wide receivers aren't going to. Be Ready to go in. September. Wentz hasn't practiced all week. So what's going on with his health and I certainly don't like the New York giants I don't like The Washington football team. So other reasons appoint me to Dallas over ten wins as a bat be sure to catch live editions of straight OUTTA. Vegas weekdays. At six PM Eastern Three PM Pacific. 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The Saints Won Thirteen Games but they want six and one in close games there plus fifteen and turnovers now good. Teams should win the turnover battle but not by fifteen. So that certainly helped them to get to thirteen wins. Bottom line I think they should have won about eleven. So if that's the case why leaning under ten and a half, it's all about drew brees where at age forty one I have concerns about drew brees. Now he played great at the end of the year last year until the playoffs in December he was playing at a fantastic level but I think a big part of that was brees missed five games bridgewater came in. And because of that brees was fresh in December, I'm not so sure he's going to be fresh over a sixteen game season, and because of that I think we might well see brees that absolutely struggles end of the year versus beginning of the year saints under ten and a half is a lean for me. Now, you also have by the way ten and a half I would take the over on ten and a half apology drew brees offseason I. If I were betting I, mean the number of times the apologize, and then again, that's just me if I. If. I were betting and making the prophet monsters like I like to do on my weekend overnight show I would like to point out the number of apologies by drew brees this off season and I believe that it is over ten and a half but it all seriousness, the other part of this that I look at New Orleans I'm also down on them I'm always sceptical anytime somebody already has one foot out the door I'm really skeptical on being able to trust them, and that's why I'm skeptical on. New Orleans because drew brees signed a two year contract extension. But his own coach said, this is his final year and then he tried to come back and say, Oh, I don't know what I'm talking about and he tried to cover it up but no no, you know exactly what you're talking about. He's already got a contract lined up with NBC to be broadcast or after all said and done. So that's already lined up I believe. That this is drew brees final year I believe he's already got one foot out the door. It's not exactly been the smoothest off season for drew brees and many people are still calling him out I. Think he's a fraud for a lot of his is messaging and the things that he was doing one minute says this the next he says that I'm not I agree with you. I'm down on New Orleans. How far down I don't know if I'm ready to say that they're not gonNa make the playoffs expect especially with an extra playoff spot there but I just think that division got better and I don't know that that as far as drew brees goes and the New Orleans Saints. This is going to be the easiest path for them to try and make. Another deep run at a super bowl because I haven't had too many opportunities they've gotten really close bad luck has gotten in the way a lot of the time whether it's the Minneapolis miracle whether it's the NFC title game and the call their the non-call against Kyle Rudolph in the playoff game a year ago at a certain point, you can't just expect to continue to get back. To that same place every single year that's why I'm down on New Orleans is share why I think you're gonna like my proposition best bet on the saints then based upon your talk about drew brees because I'm playing drew brees and prop best bet under four thousand pass yards Jonas. So breeze back in two thousand sixteen he threw for over five thousand yards then the next. Year at age thirty, eight, he threw for forty three, hundred yards. Then at eight, thirty, nine, he threw for right around four thousand obviously last year only played eleven games but you look at his production levels the last two years it's been right around that four thousand number. Now he's a year older and take a look at the quarterbacks on the saints I think very good chance. James Winston certainly see some playing time especially in blowouts mop up time for him to go ahead and show what he can do and tastes them hill even in a playoff game against the vikings was getting some key usage. You gotTa feel that he was going to get some playing time also. So with three quarterbacks that are gonNA get some playing time I can't see how forty. One year old breeze who's going to be forty two in January is going to be a guy that's GonNa go over four thousand pass yards. That is a bet burris under four thousand passports. 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Pederson's Problems in Philly

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Pederson's Problems in Philly

"Welcome to nfl. Yv developing story in the league right now and that's where we begin today. Browns head coach kevin stefanski tested positive for corona virus will miss sunday's. Afc wildcard game against the steelers. Two additional members of the coaching staff into layers have tested positive as well this coming down today. Let's bring an adam schefter for more on this. What more can you tell us. Adam about. The browns cove in situation right now. It's an outbreak in cleveland. And it was probably unrealistic to think that the nfl playoffs would go off without them being untouched by covert and now it is hit home and his home in a major way knocking out. The browns head coach evans defense key. From sunday nights wildcard matchup against the pittsburgh steelers it has ripple effects of course might prefer takes over as the acting head coach right now. Alex van pelt the offensive coordinator. Who will call the place. And there's the list of players who have been added to the reserve covid nineteen seventeen players on the reserve covid nineteen list over the last two weeks of those players still remain on the list including joel tonio. Kudrow hodge were added day. They are out and joba tonio. Who is the longest tenured member of the browns organization in terms of a player. A player. that's waited for this opportunity. His entire career for an organization hasn't played in a playoff game. Since two thousand two is out for sunday night's game against the pittsburgh steelers just unfortunate all the way around. Adam schefter with us all show long so a lot more coming your way from that and we're glad you're with us today coming up the reason one person here thinks. The eagles drama isn't going away now players that they didn't like doug peterson decisions on sunday. Dan orlovsky is here. And of course our regular crew. Mina kimes and marcus You already saw shefty. He's with us the whole entire show. Let's get back to the browns. Everybody and losing kevin stefanski for sunday's wildcard game against the steelers comes as a huge blow. Show you why. Just last season cleveland's offense ranked the bottom teams in the and efficiency turnovers and third down conversion percentage under freddie kitchens but after just one season understood fancy the browns rank in the top seven and all those same categories as you can see by the numbers here. He had this team playing such smart football. So marcus. what's your reaction to finding out. The browns will not have stefanski. Polling plays in coaching this weekend. Absolutely devastating ales and listen. This is to me the equivalent of not having a star player available for this game to actually go out and was kevin stefanski. Wants this office. Do we talked about this before the season and the questions were posed. What about when you get into the playoffs. If you lose a starting quarterback all you lose a integral part of your team. Where here we here. We are Chemists defense done a tremendous job. Not only way cleveland with his quarterback with his run game. All of the things that we've seen from a success standpoint Directly relates to what kevin stefanski philosophy has been and how he's progress not only baker. Mayfield but cleveland brown and their mentality. A you lose that you lose the communication during the game you lose the calming nature of knowing that coaches go. Put you in the best possible situation. The best play. This is devastating for the cleveland. Browns this game is over if they play it this weekend. We're talking about three weeks without practice for this organization. Now the most important person in the building outside of baker is not there. I mean think about it when it comes to play calling calling is not science. it's not measurable. You can't repeat it. You can't just observe like this is play calling his feel. It's instincts it's anticipation and reaction. And this is alvin. Van pelt now is going to be there playcaller. His done it in a long time. He used to do green bay. And we're talking about like this is not for everybody you know what makes good playcalls. And there's great playcaller. Kevin advance keys great playcaller. I think it will show itself the most. If this game happens in the second third and fourth quarter stefanski will dial up the first. He'll do his first twenty twenty-five opening script certainly especially like third down situations a once you get into the feel of the rhythm of the game. That's when he's at his absolute best. That's his strength. Remember two weeks ago on monday night. Football against the ravens this brutal for the cleveland browns and a reminder too fancy can't have any part in the play calling or any part in the game at mena's stefanski not the only loss for the browns. They will lose as you just heard him say they're left guard joe Tonio is well that affect the game on sunday. Gosh i wish i could turn the mood of this segment around and say it's not a moment tonle times. It isn't devastating as well guys. I mean every round do on offense and both the run and the past it flows from the talent and execution of that offensive line and tokyo. It's been spectacular this here. I mean look where he ranks amongst guards in pass block win rate is espn's metric for. How often you win your blocks us to lose him. Now in this particular game is awful because you guys know how how talented and how dominating the steelers pass rushes we talk about. T. j. watt often but cam heyward on the inside is a superstar. And the reason you're looking at highlights on this bills games because he absolutely ross said bills of line in the first half. They had to double team him in the second half as an adjustment. The browns don't wanna make that adjustment but they might have to and it's going to be really challenging for them. Yeah think about think about the situation mary. Y'all like the caller you lose the comfort of having him Tonio front but also the identity of this football team. that's a chunk. That's a huge chunk from execution took communication even also along. We chemist the fancy so we talking about an offense right that went out last week and had had a few issues against the pittsburgh still without all of their stars on the field. Now you give him this the deal with in the first playoff game and so many years and several hundred when it comes to playcalling right. We know there's a forty second clock but you don't have forty seconds and get the call in and make the right call like ball gets blown dent previous play. They start at forty second clock. And so you have eight or ten seconds to actually get your play call in your quarterback so he can get into the huddle and get everything. So we're talking. He's got to do that. Fifty times alexan-. What did you get fifty times as well as he can. And he's got eight seconds to get it done adam here again one point. I want to clear up here a lot of people wondering if this game could be postponed and the nfl has shown throughout the course of the season that it won't postpone games unless it feels like the virus is spreading so right now this game is on and will be played sunday night in less. There are more positive tests in cleveland. And then we go into another unprecedented murky area about how the nfl would handle that. They have to be discussing what the league would do. If this game can be played but as of right now the game is on. The game is still scheduled and it will be played if there are no further positive tests in cleveland. Which right now is no sure thing. All right yeah. That's a good point as you think about all this. Listen if the browns could win this game would actually even more remarkable than it already would have been that four forty game shefty on saturday. Ram seahawks has some uncertainty surrounding. Who can play. Especially for the rams. What's the latest with jared. Goff's helped well. It's surely would have been helpful if they were playing sunday. As opposed to saturday any our additional hours would have been helpful for jared goff. Who's trying to come back from that thumb surgery. He underwent eight days ago now. This is normally an injury that would sideline him a couple of weeks playoff game. We'll see whether he can make it back. There hopefully can can't. It'll be the financial analyst. John wolford making unnoticed start further. The ranchi lead them into the playoffs with a victory in arizona last week. See as for cooper kupp and michael brockers. Both on the reserve over both are click back to this new renzo culpable have cup broncos back from the list and also keep in mind more they could've angel wentworth back from his knee injury as well that would mean brockers own whitworth. All eligible comeback earlier today from brady anderson. He said not much of an update from carol regarding jamal adams he's been dealing with a shoulder injury. You see what he said right there. Calcium atoms will work through out the week and they'll see whether or not he's able to make it back for their match up against the rams so both teams tried to come injury challenges before the wildcard matchup saturday. Yeah and to your point. Probably both wished they were playing on sunday. Listen whoever's starting quarterback for the rams on sunday they're sure to have their work cut out for them even if jamal adams can't play since week ten seattle defense has allowed a league low sixteen points per game that the fewest yards per game and have recorded twenty-seven sack the second most in the league over that span. We remember how the seattle seahawks started the season. But they're finishing real strong at the rams. have a question mark obviously. They're facing one of the best defenses in recent weeks mortgages even matter who ends up starting saturday for the rams i mean the the grand scheme of things about as i just can't get past the fact that shifty column unanswered nina faith gold market back together. This may safety. I know it but the man the man potentially about the plano wildcard. Hey what's a lot of money snake. He wins because they make a lot of investment. I wasn't if you're a financial adviser he can be like. Hey i won on game in the nfl. Little resume their investment. Let's do our job listed. This is this is me the dictate what seattle is gonna do from a defensive standpoint and obviously the concern there for jamal adams shoulder but we all understand what this defense transformed into. Once he was back healthy and plan says we tend to since we got that trend. Going to seattle seahawks have had the third most pressures in the nfl hundred and five. And guess who's been involved in most the majority of them. He changes the dynamic of this defense. You talk about carlos dunlap. They'll those guys being able to generate passwords. The defense has changed because they are speeding. Quarterbacks up there making quarterbacks make faz decisions look this secondary much-maligned and we talked about it. Meena was was dreading it ain to talk about it every week. A part of that situation was the fact that quarterbacks at so much time to serve a push the ball down the field jamal. Playing this game changes that dynamic for me. that's why. I don't think it matters much who plays quarterback for the other side of it. We know who's gonna play quarterback for the seahawks be russell wilson and i get it dan that the rams had given him some trouble this year. But it's russell wilson How do you look at this. It's eleven sacks in two games. Defensive line has been great if you go back to two weeks ago. They were great except for three plays. And they're the do own or rent your home. Sure you do. 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Oh oh wow see even when you make a good joke the finger guns you immediately undermine yourself i can always count on just like waiting you out much like doing to russell wilson yet lightly. They've just been waiting about sitting back to high because it isn't just the rams defense that's been giving him trouble then. The entire second half of the season the seattle offense has been less explosive in. It's no mystery why they haven't found a solution for covered too. It sounds dumb but the explosive plays in rhythm are gone so i have a somewhat counter intuitive suggestion for wilson in this particular game. You don't need to be great. Just be good. You don't need to sit back and wait for those long developing plays and and part of the reason they haven't been able to be too is those would be crossers and they don't have time take what's available underneath in the san francisco game. I saw him look off off of play. Action for ten to fifteen yard gains. Take those string together. Those long drives throw it to your running backs. you don't have to kill them over. Go to just be good enough because on the other side of the ball. You can count on your defense. It sounds like every coach. I've ever had i know. And you know what she was. She coached russell wilson there. She also coached you. I didn't know that finger guns were cool. I've just found that out. Hey doug peterson made headlines. Sunday night when he pulled jalen hurts the game fairly by one score in the fourth quarter. The eagles would end up losing the game. Of course that costs the giants. And then that's the east division title and on monday giants coach. Joe judge address the decision by doug peterson. There's a number of sacrifices made by all the players and coaches in this league number sacrifice that come along as well with the family members of the people connected to them to disrespect the effort that everyone put forward to make this season a success for the national football league to disrespect the game by going out there not competing for sixty minutes and doing everything you can help. Those players win will never do that. As long as head. Coach in new york giants. All right so. It's one thing for the criticism criticism to come from someone outside the organization. But it's a whole other thing altogether when the complaints come from within and that we heard today from eagles running back miles sanders. Listen to what had to say on the radio. And if i'm being honest. If i'm being on this note nobody likes fighting. And that's that's all i can say but I don't know what was the who was the main person behind that decision but All all. I know there's a lot of people in the team was confused. All right so you heard what an eagles player himself had to say about. Doug peterson decision. Marcus what do you make of sanders. Calling out his coach. First of all. I like i like now that we've legitimized taking this back to being about the philadelphia eagles and not joe judge in new york. Giants look this is. This is critical to me. This is a part of that discussion. That situation against the washington football team that can turn ugly and can make a franchise make decisions that they don't want they don't wanna particularly make when you have mile. Sanders very important feast. I believe to the future. The philadelphia eagles comes out and says that and then he represents a lot of other guys. That felt the same sentiment now with all points. The doug peterson it all points to the front office at all points that are decision makers because what you what you get from mouse andrew. Sand that is. We didn't feel like that was the best situation for to win a game now. Outset peterson was land about trying to win. The game. you lead jalen hurts in the game. If you're trying to win the games but the fact that a player came out to say this lore now we talking about doug. Peterson happen to look those guys outta in. Explain why he did what he did. I think it's worth taking a beat to note that miles sanders himself did not play in this game. Many players play in week seventeen when they've got nothing on the live. This is not a league why it's something that literally every team in the nfl. Does what made the philadelphia situation. Unusual is the switch mid game. And i said this before the fact that was a game that other people care about on prime time. That's at. I'm not absolving peterson completely. Because the fact that a player did come forward suggests to me that this was all not communicated well internally and i think that's the real thin here it's not losing the game. I repeat teams. Do this all the time maybe nfl. It's the fact that if wasn't managed inside the locker room. And that's why we're seeing some upshot from this and going forward. I think that's what they have to triage. it's not about the integrity of the game or winning or losing. It's about your locker room and making players happy. Great location comes with connection and like this is just another step that this year feels like. There's some disconnect in that locker room within the organization. Whatever it is. It's just another step in that market. You know this and you guys probably know well other than outside of football like especially as i got older as a player. The thing that i hated the most is when coaches lied to me or like coaches sugarcoated things or were up front and honest or didn't like the open door policy or just didn't communicate things like i was a grown man. I was a grown adult. Tell me what's going to happen. What isn't happening. What is happening. I've done enough to earn the opportunity for you to tell me that. The eagles players had done enough to earn the opportunity. Big hey guys. This is what's going to happen. Just so we're clear. They're they're old enough to okay take it in compartmentalize it and then figure out how to handle their own business. And so that's my problem. As a player. I hate it when that stuff happened. And again especially a zach ertz adjacent kelsey who two weeks ago went on a ranch for two and a half minutes of how important winning was and nothing else is more important is just another sign of poor communication. It leads to disconnect sanders. Finished saying. I don't know who was the main person behind that decision. All i know is a lot of people on the team. Working used all right so it wasn't just miles. Sanders said some interesting things across the nfl. We've got a lot more of that and let's talk about some of those. We begin in dallas where cowboys owner jerry jones talked about dak prescott contract negotiations to that. I don't know how you could have any more leverage. His evolving into an nfl quarterback has been nothing short of perfect pitcher and the has great ability in my mind to win games. and so he has All things as substantiating about what. We've offered that you wouldn't be offering what's been offered him in. The past not thought he was very special. Issue is how do you. How do you come together and We've gotta get it together nina. I watched your face while you were listening to that. What do you make of what jerry said. Laura i want to say. Wow this sounds like a guy who realized what he had to live without deck and saw the contrast and how much they needed him and of course. The reason he has this leverage is against. The team. didn't get a deal done. But on the other hand it's jerry jones and we've heard this kind of language from him before so who's to say if it means a long term deal is in the offing that should be. I hope so though because as we've seen as cowboys fans have seen this season. They need that prescott. What's carry on with some other interesting. Things said this week to shawn watson finished a season where he led the nfl in passing but his team finished with just four wins is houston looked higher. Its next head coach. Their star quarterback some words of advice. Listen to what sean said. The whole co courtship. We just need new energy. We just need discipline. You need Structure gotta be on the same page as too many different mind In too many different ideas and too many people thinking that they have this power and is not like that you know we need someone that stance on and this is who we follow and this is the way it goes like. I said yesterday after the game and we want to do it this way to win. We heard that marcus he right. He's absolutely right When you start talking about culture goes back to Bill o'brien left his crumbs and foolishness there. But you also think about the messaging right. I can think of nobody better than airbnb to take over this situation. Based on the things. That i've heard airbnb say based on the relationship that he has for years he's the answer to what does shawn watson was just saying one focus guy that we all can follow now. Texas go ahead and do the right thing hired a man. Let's go all right. Then there's aaron rodgers. His team drafted quarterback jordan love in the first round last year's draft. The whispers started. It was the beginning of the end for the all pro. Qb nearly forty three hundred yards and forty eight touchdowns later hit the following message for his doubters idle chatter. Like that doesn't have a space in my brain Musher everybody else. Can't speak for them but seems to have gotten a little quite around some of those topics that people wanted to make such a big deal about the coaching carousel. Hasn't thinning as it usually does this time of year. The man with the latest is here out of chester. and adam. Let's just ask it like this. Who's interviewing who right now. A lot of is going on right now. Laura let's start with eric enemy. The chiefs offensive coordinator interviewed yesterday with the detroit. Lions and the atlanta falcons the panthers offensive coordinator joe brady interview today with the houston texans. Brian daboll the buffalo bills offense coordinator drawing interested in the new york jets. Los angeles chargers and those are three offensive guys. Ripe teams love offense. But let's keep defense in mind to robert solid the forty niners defensive coordinator interview last night with the atlanta falcons and has requested to speak with the los angeles chargers. And if you look at it. Six of the longest eight tenured head coaches and the nfl defensive background like bill belichick piano mike tomlin and that doesn't even include guys like brian floors. Mike ta ra brian floors. And some of the other coach. Like sean mcdermott in the playoffs. This weekend so even though teams offense defense also prevalent as well laura marquez fears is smiling really big after you said that you mentioned the jets adam. They have some big decisions to make this off season. They're currently projected to have the second most cap space of any team and after adding talented free agency the look to the draft. They've got nine selections there including two first round fix their biggest decision of course surrounds quarterback. Sam darnold new york has until the first week of may actually to make a decision on the fifth year option of his rookie contract. But talk about this and and what we think about what the jets are gonna do here. I think obviously the sam darnold thing is is really the focus for a lot of reasons but then what do you think they need to do when it comes to hiring a coach is that need to be a quarterback centric coat. The head coach does not need to be quarterback centric. Anyone who tells me does go. Look at houston. They got a great quarterback. Ain't working out down there. First of all actions over words you can't come in and just say a bunch of stuff you have to have actions before word. Second of all there needs to be flexibility are so what does that. Look like flexibility with how. You're gonna run your program flexibility with how you're going to handle the rules affects ability with how you communicate to all those different people. It's not twenty years ago. People are different coming into the nfl. Then in the past the second thing is accountability. You like how. How are you going to hold. Everyone accountable accountable not only players. But your staff kind of too many teams that didn't hold staff accountable. And then the second thing. The last thing would be this when they decide to set the standard of the organization. You have to understand that everybody within your organization needs different tools to get there sean. Mcvay was the best that ever been around when it came to that okay. Our standard is x. But the backup quarterback needs this in starting running back needs this and the starting defensive lineman needs this. You can't just set the standard expect every to get himself there. You as the coach your job get understand. That player spent time with them and figure out. This guy needs this stuff. This guy needs that stuff everything and the last thing. What did you do in adversity. Take a good player. Makes him really good. Take a great player. Make them hall of famer play. Take an average player. make them good. Can you do that so it doesn't have to be quarterback centric. He's got to have those traits. Yeah when you think about this job in knowing just even the the situation. They've gotten draft and the couple of first round picks they've got it is attractive from that standpoint. Let's talk about sam darnold. What do you think they do. Marcus in terms of the quarterback. Position what i become a head coach better win. Six damn super bowls. Are we gonna crush on tv every because he just told us what. And when and when i do and i win i'm a come here and you still going only one hundred dollars. How am i going. No i won't. I won't after this week. I'm gonna give them ten thousand kidneys freely sold but anyway. Let's go draft all right. Listen i'm i'm going. After i watched were baker mayfield. Did this year with a new head coach. After i watched missing trubisky made strides. Don the streets with matinee. After i've seen like believer in the in in the development aren't of it. I used to be a harsh critic of it. Because i thought you needed to see some things. Sam hair shown the some things. He missed crowder lot this year. He missed meals. He missed perriman. Barrio stepped up for many times. I told y'all that this team really really oil. It down the stretch. When everybody was talking about trying to get trouble lords. Those players were winning. They were trying to play winning football. So coaches will come in. I believe with a mature team that wants to win. And i believe sam daughters they gotta lead them drafting. They soule from oregon. Protect the now. You've got becton. And you got another stalwart tackle. An usher and sam was career please. Y'all already know. Hi adam gates corrupt. They can be a good quarterback guys. I think my my earpiece must be malfunctioning. Because i think. I just heard marcus site. Mr bisky. his improvement of the as a model for the jets quarterback gus on making fun of me on television. Look the foundation of my friendship with dan. Laskey is based on two. Things are love of the bachelor fan tries and are irrational. Defending of sam darnold. I think he has been dealt a very unfair hand. I see flashes of great ability in him. But the thing you have to consider is. You're not comparing sam darnold. Justin fields here. Or zack wilson. You're comparing sam darnold to a quarterback on a rookie contract with five years of goss control and in the franchise beyond that. And that's why i leaned towards a fresh start for the jets and a head coach who embraces the young quarterback. I don't think sam darnold's career in the nfl over. I remain a believer. But i think for both parties because of the financial benefits you get from the draft. They would be better served going with fields. You know it just makes you think feel if the jets had messed around and one too many games here and it was actually trevor lawrence. We were talking about. I wonder how the conversation trying to figure out why we're not better friends than that. You're not with our eight dogs. The ravens are soaring into the playoffs. Winning five straight game since week. Thirteen over that span. They're averaging thirty. Seven points per game a whopping two hundred and sixty seven yards per game. in fact baltimore's one thousand three hundred thirty seven rushing yards since week thirteen. That's the most in a five game span in the super bowl era. The offense has been clicking. What changed in that offense in recent weeks. They returned to their roots embrace their identity. And i'm so glad we got to end this. Show you something positive. Because it's been so watching the ravens over the last few weeks. Lamar jackson in particular scrambling. Okay at nearly nine yards a carry. It like when dylan went back to making folk music. This is who they are and by the way the playoffs. This is who should be. We've seen this golden more ravens teams to come to the pressures of passing too much when they're down in the postseason or just abandoning the principles that got them there and i asked them against the titans. Defense which lacks a pass rush. Continue to run the football. I'm saying it means god's run the football it's what you're great at. You guys have figured out what to do with your offensive line. We talked about how they switched over some gatt concepts over the last few weeks. It's working. don't stop me thank you. I'm so glad we're talking about the run game And i figure like like. I say i thought this baltimore ravens team would be better served being in this position that they'd been here for the past few weeks last month of the season than they were when they went into the playoffs. Hot and doing this all season long now. This stride is but it. Lamar has saying. I'm putting my. I'm go as far this. I'll take us but look what they do to you as a defense like we're taught to re keys as defense. We're taught to make sure that we seen things the right way. This is the problem. Stop looking this matter trick. Play at home of those linebackers concern. We're getting out to stop waltzing. Josh bonds finally realizes lake. That has the ball. But this is thing that they have on you. Those linebackers wasn't wrong. They wouldn't necessarily role they just are so influenced by lamar. Jackson has been doing that. All of their eyes went to him and all of their false steps with the way he was going and allow the out the back end. This is going to be a problem for everybody. Darn good tape. Darn i loved it. They make you play magic eye on defense you know. How much can you actually focus. How little can you see. How much ground can you cut him. Think about like they're making you see so much so can you. Can you figure out what you don't have to pay attention to focus on something similar. But also they're not. They're taking the gap that is a yard wide. And going we're gonna make it four five six seven yards wide mean i personally would love is and sync got back together and create music back their identity like the baltimore ravens offense. I i know that dylan thing. Would we knew it. Yeah dylan and instinct. different categories. All right time for one more thing goes. Someone's going to win the heisman tonight. The heisman trophy ceremony tonight at seven eastern on. Espn dan. i'll let you go first. You think about the candidates that we've got we got mac jones. Devante smith could make history being the first receiver in a long time to win it. And you got kyle. Trask in the mix as well as trevor lawrence. Who go in with. Why do you think they should win. I if i had a vote. And i'm fortunate enough that i did. I would vote for devante smith. He's the at the top road runner i ever seen. Meaning he wins at the top of his routes. And i've called all three of these guys games right. Three coaches in the sec. This year told me their words. They all have over twelve years of experience coaching in that conference. All three of 'em said he's the best receiver they've ever seen in that conference. That's their words not mine. Wow marcus what do you think is the smith. Listen we're talking about the best player in college football. Not the best quarterback not who we think should win the heisman coming into the preseason. We take a whole season sample size and we say this is the best warrior best devante. Bill clearly is the tech smith in my being soap. Give them the trump anything. I'm gonna have to agree. His game is so complete speed. Route running han contested catch ability. Tweeted this the only negative he has is. we might have the same way size. One coming back jones ninety nine point eight. Qbr on the season. That's the best since we started the metric in two thousand four. 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Hour 1: LeBron passes MJ

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Hour 1: LeBron passes MJ

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Well, come to the latest dissident, Stephen Smith show coming at you as I love to do every weekday over the airwaves of ESPN radio towards fifty plus markets across the United States of America. Check your AM FM, Don nearest you, plus ESPN radio. Siriusxm channel eighty plus ESPN radio simulcast over the live national television. Airwaves of ESPN news. Number to call up is always triple eight say ESPN that edit eight seven to nine three seven seven six. Stephen a Smith show is being brought to you by credit karma. Get your truly free credit scores and free credit monitoring from credit karma today. That's credit karma K A R M A, get no-one top straight talk. Brought to you by straight talk wireless. Best phones. Best networks, no contracts. Lots of stuff going on later on in the show in regards to the great, Jerry West. I've got a correction that. I wanna make sure I make because we know how I feel about Jerry West. And if he's got some disagreement with something that I said damnit, he's the he's e f Hutton, I'm gonna listen. Okay. So I wanna make sure that I make a correction in regard to something that I said about him just a couple of days ago up before I even get into all of that. I want to talk about what transpired last night. Because obviously the biggest story going on is LeBron James, and this guy residual impacted from New York to LA and every place in between. Okay. Here's what you have going on. Lebron James one of the greatest players in a world destined to be on a mount Rushmore of basketball annals. Lebron James passed Michael Jordan last night to become fourth on the all turn NBA scoring list. Only. Three people remain to eclipse Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, call Malone. Kobe bryant. Willie pass Koby possibly. Catching Jabbah in Kareem in my estimation. I don't know about that. I don't know about that. That's just me. I mean anything's possible. I guess, but when I look at LeBron James, I don't know if he'll end up as number two on the NBA's, all Tom scoreless. I simply don't know if that will happen. Because you're talking about him averaging twenty seven points a game this year. He's a career twenty seven point to point per game scorer. This is a guy when you look at him and what he brings to the table this year. This season. He has scored one thousand two hundred seventy three points in forty seven games last year. He played all eighty two games. He scored twenty two hundred and fifty one points the previous two seasons when he played seventy four and seventy six games, respectively from two thousand seventy six seventy four respectively. He's called over nineteen hundred points a game. So he'll probably catch. Kobe whether you'll catch call Molo possible remains to be seen though. It's going to catch Kareem Abdul-Jabbar doubt. It. Who knows who knows? Either way you slice it. It was an incredibly surreal moment. Full abroad. James, you could tell him as a bit emotional about it. The crowd minutes removed from booing him because he missed his first four three throws ended up giving him a standing ovation. I know because I was there. And I was one of the people standing up and giving him a standing ovation. And the reason why I was giving him a standing ovation, ladies and gentlemen, because it doesn't matter. How critical you have to be about little remnants of what takes place at what goes on over. The course of somebody's career at the end of the day. It has been an absolute honor and privilege to watch and to cover. Lebron James play the game basketball. And I'm gonna be one of millions who truly truly misses him when he is gone. He deserves to be praised. It was beautiful to see his lovely wife, savannah. In attendance. And this was LeBron James afterwards. Speaking about eclipse, eclipsing, Michael Jordan for fourth place on the all time scoring list in NBA history. Here is LeBron James for care from Akron, Ohio to that inspiration. And. Needed some type of. Positive influence. MJ was that guy for me? I wash him from afar. Wanted to be like MJ undershoot fadeaways like MJ wanted to stick my tongue out on dunks. Like MJ wanted to where my sneakers like m j. I want to look up to me at some point like MJ and. There's this. It's crazy to be honest. I don't. This is beyond crazy. Let me say something. You know, when you hear those words coming out of LeBron James mouth, it kind of moves you. Particularly if you're a member of the minority community 'cause you hear exactly where he's coming from. And for those of you who don't understand allow me to explain. You grow up in the streets of Akron, Ohio as he wants our ticky lated when you look at the city of Cleveland. They didn't look fondly upon Akron, Ohio. So if you will from Akron, Ohio, you weren't in love with Cleveland by a long shot. You felt disenfranchised. You felt minimized you felt cast aside. So that affinity for Cleveland that he grew to have as a player. Laser gentlemen. Essentially, the only reason he felt that way is because it was near Akron, Ohio. If acronym had a professional basketball team. Lebron ahead any attachment to Cleveland. Because that's how he felt about the city growing up as a kid. But ultimately, a love affair suit. He spent the first seven years of his career there. He became a free agent went to Miami for four years and felt this issue this eight to come back. And deliver a championship because the him. That's what everything was all about. And what he talked about when he was talking about Michael, Jordan and what an inspiration. He was. Let me tell you. Why? Michael, jordan. If y'all remember you young whippersnappers out there breath, smell like Similac wet behind a as don't know in a damn thing because you're puppies in life. You might not remember this. But law before Michael Jordan had those floss suits, look like he's straight out of G Q, even though Kobe's the one that will remind you. He was the professional athlete that was on the cover g q twice. The one thing that's incredibly important to remember is that before all of that happened. Michael, jordan. It used to wear warm up suits were go change around his neck. Michael Jordan looked like a little hood rat. Y'all forgot that or didn't know that. Well, Michael, Jordan, matriculated two different times. He ultimately evolved in grew and matured. And when that happened he became more, polished not just in a world where he dressed, but the way he looked away. He carried himself overall. And ultimately, he was the kind of iconic global superstar athlete. That mainstream America and beyond was comfortable inviting into their liberal. It didn't start with Michael Jordan. Magic Johnson and Larry Bird had something to do with paving the way and creating an avenue in foundation for that to take full Dr J, Julius Erving one could argue did the same because when you heard Brent Musburger on CBS talking about the doctor making house calls. It was something special to behold. But ultimately. Michael Jordan was the ward who springboard was the one who springboard boarded it to another level. And by doing so it made it easier. For you to embrace the modern day NBA athlete. It's a liberal. Remember when Commissioner David Stern Adam silver's predecessor took over the NBA in early eighties. It was perceived as being drug infested. Rife with a bunch of hooligans. Not suitable for live national television, the finals wall, I'm sorry to play us. And I think the finals it was on tape delay. It wasn't live. I remember because I was Philadelphia. Seventy Sixers not really a Philadelphia. Seventy Sixers fan. I was a doctor J fan growing up. And I remember my boy, Marc McKnight, my childhood, buddy. Who now lives in Austin, Texas. I remember what I wanted to put them in the face because I had waited hours to see what the seventy Sixers did it gets the nets in the play offs and Albert king Bernard. King's little brother had scorched the seventy Sixers and knocked him out of the play offs. And I didn't know because it was on tape delay. But more found out the score on radio and told me before I had a chance to watch the game. That's how I remember. How to NBA was on tape delay? Magic and Burr took it to another level. And then Michael even though I never I'd never like, I know I hate forgetting the bad boys because I've never forget them. Isaiah and do moss. And all of those boys were something to behold as well. But they will win is not necessarily aesthetically pleasing to television viewers. Even though watching them play at that Silverdome with eighty thousand people the Pontiac Silverdome with something special, but joining clearly took it to another level. As an individual iconic brand and figure. And it was because of Jordan. That you looked at penny. Hardaway and Chris Webber and Larry Johnson and Vince Carter Antoine. Jamison and Kobe Bryant and Alan Iverson. And Tracy McGrady and Grant Hill and all of these boys and you start looking at those individual commodities. And recognizing what they could bring to the game. And what they could bring to the world of sports. But it was Michael Jordan who spearheaded at all. In terms of its elevation to another level to helping globalize the NBA brand. This is why he's so valuable. So when the broad speaks about that. He speaks about the inspiration. That Michael Jordan was see y'all LeBron James on the shop on HBO right now. Just the other day. He had Antonio Brown. Anthony Davis to chains. Jamie, fox. He had these boys on there with him. And you listen to them talk. And you see how defiant LeBron appears and it might throw you a back a little bit. But you know, why? Because he did his time. He carried himself properly. He was a professional. He became a champion a global iconic figure and brand who is now about the business of encouraging as many lives as he can particularly those from disenfranchised communities. To inspire them to be all that they can be rather than be dictated to about what they should be. So when he speaks about Jordan, that's what he remembers that has some of you out there that will go like this. Well, who the hell is Georgia to set an example. I mean, he was quiet members law Republicans. So, you know, by sneakers too. Remember when he refused to endorse a democratic candidate out of North Carolina was running against late Senator Jesse Helms. And people will look at stuff like that. And try to hold it against them. But I would submit to you that you're not appreciating who joined it was any more than you. Appreciate it who a lot of people were. When you look at Michael Jordan, and you look at his quote unquote, hesitancy to speak out. Do you know what he's done behind the scenes, do you know that if he was out smoking as LeBron was is now that Michael Jordan might have might have inhibited or hindered his into being a global iconic brand because folks would have gotten in his way. And if they had gotten in his way, who's who else is way, would they have gotten it. Fat five and Jalen rose been able to be who they are in terms of their impact. Which kill O'neil been able to have his impact with Kobe. Bryant have been able to have this impact with Alan Iverson have been able to have his impact LeBron James have been able to have his impact. It has to start somewhere. You look at Jackie Robinson and integrating baseball branch. Rickey the owner for the dodgers had other candidates. There were other people that he could have picked. People that will perceive as better baseball players than the great Jackie Robinson. But that wasn't the only reason why branch Rickey chose him. He told Jackie Robinson because of his temperament his ability and his willingness to handle an absorb the victory of that was going to be aimed in this direction, while still maintaining composure because in order to integrate the sport or major league baseball and the pull out off and it set a shot an example for other leaks to follow what society as a whole to embrace integration more. So than it was willing to at that particular moment in time in order, but that transpire you had to find somebody with the proper temperament. To withstand the obstacles that were evidently going to come their way without publicly displaying deaf frustration in such a way that would ultimately cancel the growth. And evolution into another stratosphere. That was imminent if it did they were able to show patience. That was Jackie Robinson in one thousand nine hundred forty seven. It was Michael Jordan in the mid eighties. And because Michael Jordan was that guy. That was able to quietly insist the Matic -ly. Matriculate his way to a system that would ultimately assist him into becoming the global iconic brand that he is and ultimately a billionaire. He was able to shine a light on how things could be done. How obstacles could be overcome? By young black, man. Born. Without a fluence. As his cushion. Yet still able to rise to astronaut Michael heights personifying the American dream in ways that billions of bomb. Billions of people could only dream. That is what LeBron James was talking about. That is what he was so thankful for that. Is why his emotions had to be perceived as sincere because they transcend basketball. He was talking about life. Any hawk and back to a vision in a dream that even for him seemed likely unattainable at one point in time in early year earlier years of his life. Yet had reached fruition last night. That's why you look at him. What he said. And appreciate where he's coming from. Yeah. There could be criticism about the free throws could be criticism about the dysfunctionality raking through the Lakers franchise like a virus like now, and I'll get into that in a few minutes. But as a strictly pertains to him eclipse, Michael Jordan and his words of respect while paying homage to Michael Jordan last night. That's an important point to think about ladies and gentlemen. It's an important point. Not to forget. Edits ESPN. It's inundate seven to nine three seven seven six. You are listening to live to Steven A, ESPN radio ESPN news. Another thing before I go to commercial break. Ladies and gentlemen. I was on this station. I'm sorry. I'm in LA. I'm doing a show from LA. And I was on a radio station the other day talking to Joe George Sodano about Jerry West. And I went into a story about Jerry Weston, you know, recruiting shack got shack. Dr bus promised him a million dollars ultimately hesitated to honor that commitment which tick Terry west off, whatever. Jerry west. According to what I've been told. By Jerry, West himself, by the way, adamantly ineffectively denies that. Love Dr bus. I don't recall intimating that he did it love Dr boss, but he wanted to make very very clear he loved that, man. And that man had a hell of a lot to the game of basketball. And he doesn't want any kind of story out there. Intimating the his relationship with Dr bus was anything less than special in stellar. He would know better than me. I'd heard that story. Many many times over the years in regards to Dr bus and Jerry West over the Shaquille O'Neal item. Terry west, quote, I've had a lot of problems with a lot of people in my lifetime. Dr bus was never one of them. I love that man. I missed that man dearly. And that is absolutely not true. There was never any beef whatsoever. Between he and I at all, and he wanted to make sure that I knew that. I'd heard that story for many many years. I'd never spoken the Jerry West directly about that. But if he says, that's what it was. I'm going to keep him at his word. And if that qualifies as me making a correction, so be it for the great, Jerry West. It's worth it. He knows his life a hell of a lot better than me. I'd heard that story. Many times he emphatically denies that's how things went down. Didn't go into details. At least for your edification as to how things went down. But he wanted me to emphasize he loved himself from Dr Jerry Buss. And he doesn't ever want any kind of impression given to the contrary. Jerry wars does earned that distinction is especially from me, and I won't speak about. Those rumors and stories as it pertains to him ever again. It eight say ESPN. 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You know, what you bring your defense with you on the road. You don't turn over the ball as much. That's how you win games on the road. And. You know, they had just one turnover in the first quarter. You have too many for the game. Jamal Murray is a shotmaker Gary Harrison something special when he gets aggressive. No doubt will Burton Barton rather. I mean, these guys can play these guys can play their Tom's. Like, would you think about us? Now as Thomas was had, you know, I mean if he didn't have his injuries. I mean, we act like the brother can't play the man average twenty eight point nine points per game. Last time we saw him healthy over two seasons ago that Isaiah Thomas brother can play now once he gets healthy and just praying that he gets healthy. But look at the Denver Nuggets their team to be reckoned with it's going to be difficult for people to go to the Ma city and that alter tune in bts, boys. I'm telling you right now, it's not a foregone conclusion. Is not a foregone conclusion that's going to happen. I'm just letting you know it at eight say ESPN edited seven to nine three seven seven six regards to the Lakers. It's an absolute mess. Now. I'm told rob Lakers safe. He magic on the same page. Luke Walton is gone. He won't be the coach next year. Lebron James has to own some cope ability. This what you hear coming out of Lakers. Can't what you hear in terms of the scuttle scuttlebutt around NBA circles is that the players can't stand. Lebron james. They don't particularly like them. You know, you hear that? You hit these coaches that are going to be on the circuit. And you know, woman you here and they'll pursue Doc Rivers. Another thing you'll hear in doc. Rivers told don't even think about coming here. It's a mess here. I mean, it's crazy. The messed is going on with the Los Angeles ak- women that you hear magic and Pelinka on the same page another minute you hearing Pelinka's in the walls of the Lakers practices. Have you seen? Magic anybody. See magic to bring attention to the fact that magic eight there. Everybody's accusing somebody else a lion. We got GD bus talking about fake news from the media. I mean, Brandon Ingram to his father's complaining about front office moves if you listen to NBA, folks, I mean, it's just a mess. It's an absolute mess. John's coming to get a hold of this stuff before it turns into Jim bus era part. I mean that just can't believe it. Now, some of it the truth is some of it lies. Probably I don't know. All I know is that it's very very bad to hear all of this. It's not good. It's not good. It's an absolute positive mess. Somewhere along the lines are gonna have to do something about it. It's just that simple. I'll get an KD Golden State in the noise going out going on out there in northern California where my boy Chris Hanes used to be ESPN's. Now, a Yahoo sports as my brother. Good people only problem I guy with him as he wear these dams converse Necas would suit sent wrong with him. But he did have on shoes last time. I saw. So that's good. That's good. It ain't say ESPN inundate seven two not three seven seven six and I'll get into some column Murray stuff. In a few minutes as well. Because I went off about that yesterday. And I'm still going off about it sabotaging this kid's chances of being the number one overall pick just a Haida irresponsibility as far as you. Gotta be kidding me stuff. That was said about him. Boy, bull forty three and forty three hundred yards passing. Forty two touchdown sixty percent. Completion percentage rushed for over a thousand yards. Yeah. Of course about his height. He's over five feet ten you had questions about his weight. He's over two hundred seven path you had questions about his hand size nine the half. After all of that stuff. Now, you come here, y'all come. Here's some folks come character issues now watching film and his leadership capabilities. I mean, you got to be kidding me. It's ridiculous. Chris lava, Stephen what's going on. Hi, Stephen gets talking with you. Real quick one. Dizzy, I just wanna sit. Relations out LeBron. And what he did last night. You eloquently stated daddy beginning has it was this morning. Basketball's example. He set for people who look at you. And I am self what it's like to to put yourself in a position to be successful and just continue to strive for things. But I wanna point this out Steven, this is just my opinion. I don't know if I heard anybody say this. But as great as LeBron is and how he has been over the years playing in the league, I think right now stage she is where he is now in his career Steve day. I don't believe that LeBron James can be the best player on the championship team over for. And that goes for anything that he that? If you finished with the Lakers, have you go somewhere else, whatever the case would be. I don't know if he can be the best player on the championship level team. What do you what do you say to that? I think you're wrong. I think it's a matter of who you have on your roster. Hot thing. Great players can play. Lebron james. I don't think he's ton of play that great players can't play with. I think that's utterly ridiculous. He doesn't have a good enough roster. Now, he may be handling. Things differently because he knows that they're limited and he's not treating them appropriately. Whether it's not coddling them enough. Whether it's being too abrasive with them being on their case. Too much all being distant from them while he pursued his interest in Hollywood. I think it's clear that he could do a better job in regards to that. But to say that he can't be the best player on a championship. Team is skews me. Yes. He can if you had another great player just somebody that wasn't as great as him. No, LeBron is do some damage. So I completely and utterly disagree with that. Okay. That's why I just get your perspective on that. Glenn? Yes. Yes. Because this 'cause I'm just looking at the last couple of games. They perfect might not know start right there. The project has been the league how many years? The long Cal. Lebron James is the three time champion, right? Yes. He's a four time league MVP, right? Yes. This year. He's averaging twenty seven game. Just like he's averaged twenty seven point two points per game. Fizzing taco is that correct? I don't have the numbers, and you just said over the last couple of games, but I was trying to make a point this bit. Okay. Oh, how fair is. That though how fair is it two point to point. Let's take out the last couple of games. Let's say LeBron James since Christmas. Let's say, for example, a as was awful since Christmas is there really right to judge him based on that. No, of course, not of course, not Stephen. But you have to look at the writing on the walls in my pay for somebody who I really sect this game of basketball. If you're looking at with teams go against I don't know if opposing players spirit him like they like they have in the panel. I've always said they never feared him. I've always said that even in his prompt. You know, why do you what's the number one reason says you check the game of basketball? What's the number one reason they didn't feel Brown? He didn't have them. He didn't have that mom, but like in LeBron didn't you can make that argument. That's a good one. But this, but I still don't agree with it. You know, the number one reason is. Because when all is said and done all I gotta do is foul. Right, right. I agree with that as well. That's that's a factor as well. But I'm just looking at the bigger picture Stephen getting older and all that stuff. But I'm just saying from metallic perspective. I'm not sure if players are like, I'm Pat Beverley instance incident, but with Pat was guarding it. I'm like clearly is not afraid of them. And then I'm gonna. Started to who is Patrick Beverley affair afraid of. That's true. That's true. But let me run. Well, that's but you're right. But you think doc would have put Pat on Kobe Bryant and Kobe Kobe win game. Yes. Okay. Anybody anybody? Okay, these fights. And he's a past. I gotta go. But that's a terrible example Patrick Beverley that ain't the example the pick up sorry. And then they'd say ESPN, it's entity seven to nine three seven seven six. You're listening lobster even ESPN radio. ESPN news back more of your phone calls in a minute before man. Chris Haines comes on the show to holler. At b by the way. 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We'll put Bron over Kobe Bryant's. Yes. But not in the last two minutes. Now when a game matters. I would put LeBron James over Kobe is just a matter of eighty two games over forty eight minutes a night because I think as a physical specimen with all that he brings to the table. He does more and as a result that would be it. I wouldn't want LeBron over them when when it matters moat because I consider Michael, Jordan and Kobe killers. Right. And I mean that affectionately in a good way the problem that Koby has is that Koby evidently is compared to m j because Colby and MJ will both off guards and primarily scores. Lebron James is a score is somebody who could score. But LeBron James is more of an elevated as -nificant elevated version of Magic Johnson athletically. You know, he does things his his mentality in temperament is. Is that of magic in terms of magic, Mike? Lebron would rather make the past and take the shot. Michael Jordan gave up the ball to a Steve Kerr or BJ on strong or Craig Hodges or St John Paxson Kobe Bryant, obviously would give up the ball as well. But essentially them in Tallahassee is to take matters into their own hands. Lebron has no problem being deferential. I see I see. Okay. And then my second question question on the Lakers dysfunctional. I mean, it was I mean last night watching the game. And watching the Janas get a shot to play. They had they man they've young core. Core man, they were rookie. They played man. They had getting off my seat. I mean, it was awesome to see the young core to play with that kind of heart and they better than the the star to do. So my question 'cause they function that's going on with the coach the players. What do you think that needs to happen for the Lakers in order to get better next season? Well, listen, I think that you're gonna have to purge half the roster Luke Walton, unfortunately is going to be made to pay a price because at Rossa that he had to deal with and could not Rondo sitting on a, you know, away from the team the way that he was no matter the fact that he's done it on numerous occasions. It doesn't take away from the fact that how disrespectful and dismissive. It looked. Toward the coaching staff. And when you consider what some players might be saying about LeBron how Rondo feels about the coaching staff, the lack of respect the coaching staff has combined with magic and Pelinka. It's just a dysfunctional situation right now that magic is going to have to clean up quick fast. And in a hurry. I believe he can do it. But he's got his work cut out for our number. Two up nex. My man Chris Haines NBA reporter for Yahoo sports. He'll be on with yours. Truly don't touch that. 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Eli Manning retiring from NFL, Does he belong in the Pro Football Hall of Fame - Emergency Podcast (Football 1/22)

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Eli Manning retiring from NFL, Does he belong in the Pro Football Hall of Fame - Emergency Podcast (Football 1/22)

"What's everybody. Welcome to the pick six PODCAST. CBS CBS sports daily in F. L.. PODCAST also um of emergency podcast as my Cowboy Siren Komo Brinson. I'm the host of this show and Manning is retiring so this is our ally manning retires is he all of Famer Mer emergency podcast. We had a little back and forth. Brady Quinn about this whether or not things qualifies emergency. PODCASTS it's really more like big big. NFL event tent is a tent pole. PODCAST is what it is. And here's the litmus test John Breach Sean Wagner Gov joining me on this podcast Ryan Wilson Mobile Alabama. He's at he's at the senior bowl is going to make some kind of joke about Ryan southern in the south and then decided not to But here's the thing the litmus test for this five fifty two PM as we start recording this on Wednesday January twenty second. Second here this evening. If I go downstairs to my wife. She's cooking dinner and say I have to go do a podcast and then to HQ. I'll see you at seven. And she's like what and I'm like manning retired. She's like okay. That's probably fair. These guys are annoying and then lets me go without any further problems. That's I know breach that it's worthy of a tent pole slash emergency podcasts. Yes any emergency podcast. If I go up to my wife she probably can name ten of the thirty two starting quarterbacks in the NFL EU you are manning is absolutely one of them and so that means the casual fan. Everyone knows who manning is and that is why this is a sad day. I'm Kinda sad to see you I go I would just add that. I think it's worthy of being called an emergency broadcasts simply because it's worthy of us doing an unscheduled podcast. Because the debate is going to last for years. Now we're going to spend five years talking about Eli Manning a hall of Famer and that's something that look I know Brady Quinn things. We need a lot of time time to think about things. We've been having this conversation already for years and years so we already know Enough information I think to have informed discussion also to quote at least one insider as expected. This is coming true. And maybe they can redo this centennial class and sneak E. Y.. In so that we don't after debate this for the next five five years because this is literally gonNA come up every year every August when they end up every hall of fame class for the next five years giving a nonstop debate. It's going to be the offseason. Everyone's GonNa talk about in June when you have nothing to talk about. Let's talk about the Eli Manning Hall of Fame Debate. You know what I am fighting back every urge in my body to not steal that for twitter. Because that's a good tweet breach like hey hey hey at pro football hall of fame. Can you include ally in the in the centennial class. Just to avoid the next five years of debate your tweet get some action gets traction. Johnny B. Should fired out there. So Eli Manning retires. He played sixteen years. You know what I don't like like about pro football reference when a guy plays for multiple teams it list exactly how many years he played for multiple teams when he only played for one team it. It doesn't list total years so you have to look at it and if it's something like two thousand four to two thousand nineteen it's either fifteen or sixteen and I think it's sixteen. I'm a little scared. It's it's always sixteen. I like how you you presented that as if it was a difficult math problem. Two Thousand Nineteen minus two thousand and four th the the typical matthew would approach is fifteen easiest saying there. I understand but you've done this before as I've done this before. And a certain point you realize when he started adding it up that you have to include one more. It's actually like the word rhythm it gets me every single time. Yeah okay. I'm with you on that. I've never said that you think I would think I would change anyway. Manning draft in the two thousand four NFL draft as some people like like to point out with there being well actually jerks on twitter taken first overall by the San Diego chargers. He didn't WANNA play for San Diego. His Dad didn't want him to play for San Diego so he forced his way out force. The chargers to make a trade to swap the pick fourth overall Philip rivers was drafted by the New York. Giants fourth overall ally and in Phil traded places. Phil would go on to be wildly successful as an individual in San Diego and Eli would go onto win to two uh-huh championships to Lombardi trophies. In New York he finished with two Lombardi's to super bowl. MVP's and I mean I I'll let me let me ask you this if you had to pick one word to describe ally Manning's career what would it be and I'll start because I sort of sprung this on you to give you guys a little time. Here's what I would. Here's how describe it average fortunate John I like both of those. Can I combine them. Fabric fortunate average orig-. Fortunately that's I mean. I don't think that word. I'm not good at one more thing so I will just say unsung feel Song Unsung to Super Bowl. VP's unsung he's Aziz. He had an unsung career. Where we're talking about the words of Baiting a two time superbowl? MVP getting into the hall of fame. I mean you know that's GonNa talk about and you talk about his is great postseason runs two thousand seven two thousand eleven both times they went through the postseason they three teams that had thirteen or more wins. You Know How many times that's ever been done in. NFL history besides those two e. y.. Manning seasons none. What's on sale? Only one other quarterback ever ever pulled that off and it was Ben Rothlisberger in two thousand five so when he was good he was great. And that's it. He came up clutch when he had to. All the time. Man At this is this debate is never gonNA end well. It's really interesting because for a very hot minute. Actually it's more of a hot minutes from two thousand February of two thousand eleven maybe through Let me see it. I'll tell you for sure. February of February February of two thousand eleven through February of two thousand sixteen. I believe is accurate accurate timeframe. There is a debate about whether Eli was better than Peyton. That was like a thing it was a thing not like. Is he better statistically than Peyton but it was like hey candy live past Peyton. Peyton is one of the five greatest quarterbacks of all time and it should. That's that should not be up for debate because he finished with two super bowls multiple. MVP's statistically dominated the league forever change elite in many ways but there was a legitimate hot minute where people we're asking could if you win a third super bowl could he passed Payton on the rankings. Like sure Payton is great in the regular season and he has great numbers but he lies clutch. Ally is the Derek jeter of the NFL. Well and let me say real quick. Why that argument came up from two thousand five? The two thousand twelve. I've started all sixteen games in every season. The giants never had a losing record and they want to super bowl so that was hey. This guy is a winner and obviously I I would say his legacy his fame argument. All of that took a hit because of the way his ended with seven and nine six and ten six and ten three and twelve. It wasn't wasn't great but if you look at that two thousand five two thousand twelve you win two super bowls in eight seasons and you ever have a losing record and you make the playoffs three times. That's pretty solid. And and Peyton had that reputation for kind of choking in the post season until he finally won that I will two thousand six so it wasn't that crazy easy at the time even though Peyton manning was clearly the more talented quarterback you WanNa Hear A. I can't believe this is true. This is too fun of the fact that I'm doubting pro football reference saying we'll we'll probably know it ally manning peyton manning have the exact same career postseason passer rating exact same. At seven point four. It does seem rather impossible. How's that see I? I don't think that's impossible. Meeting is eight and four and playoffs. I'm just saying I'm just saying it's it's wild that the decimal point is the exact same. I'm not saying I'm surprised that Eli was as good as peyton place. I can't believe it's identical. It's it's insane that the two brothers have an identical passer rating in the playoffs. That's pretty crazy is that that's a knock. Obviously on Peyton is what you're saying with that right or is it a common. I actually think I think it's a couple of months alive because I actually think the Peyton manning not clutch thing is a little bit overstated It's funny if you're working on a story for Thursday about Patrick Mahomes and fourth quarter comebacks accent game winning drives and you look it up. Peyton manning leads league all time and gained drives he leaves legal timeformore comebacks Because he didn't do as much in the postseason season that's where he gets dinged. But then I'll have to turn this and debate manning pockets I think Dick Clutch argument against Peyton. Is that really fair. It was it was always. Don't mean by the way Peyton despite despite being nine and ten in the playoffs. Eight point four quarterback rating with Indianapolis and then it went down when he was in Denver even though he went five and three and one super bowl went to another another super bowl. So yeah I mean like it's all it's all sort of randomized when you get to the playoffs but Ally finished like I think you can contextualize it. However you want I'll uh-huh give field? Yates for the program. ESPN's field yates very good at twitter in terms of posting things in a way that makes them very sharable sharable. So you feel a lot of credit for that Manning's career achievements two time superbowl winner two time superbowl. MVP Fifty seven thousand twenty three passing yards seventh all time. Three hundred sixty six passing housing touchdown seventh all time. Four time Pro Bowler Walter Payton Man of the year. Two Thousand Sixteen never missed a game due to injury. Thirteen time team captain and one the sale of a model American Brinson breaking out his ace. Ventura that you're pretty. South beach are GONNA fit in down to Miami. She didn't can get that now. What happened is I was tweeting? My Fun fact about the manning brothers and I was not looking up an unsettling you started screaming in my ear and I got very alarmed. Anyway I think we need rip-off stats like that. And you put them in. Sort of a grander scheme. And you involve. If when you invoke the super bowls which is fine. Because that's sort of how we operate with quarterbacks with coaches new having this discussion with Jimmy Johnson and Bill Cower and various coaches in the hall of fame recently like that. You just measure quarterbacks and coaches by super bowls in fact you measure everybody by super bowls have you ever serve super bowl ring. It pushes you over the top and the hall of fame discussion ally has those. I do listen to this. Is this decision by Eli to walk away from a financial standpoint from a legacy standpoint is smart move it. Does I feel like the smart move right. Yes I do think that he probably took a look around the league because I think he made it pretty clear that he was done in New York. That was that was yes. Yes yes. He even said he wasn't going to go back and be a backup quarterback in New York. You said that earlier this off season and it does feel like you know. He made it. I think he made it pretty clear that if if he was going to play in two thousand twenty he wanted to be a starter. You don't want to ride the bench anywhere so all the sudden you start looking around the league and you start saying oh where could I start. Where could I possibly even have a chance to start? Then you look at the quarterbacks who you're going to be competing with them free agency. Maybe Tom Brady. Philip Rivers Jameis Winston. I mean there is is just an crazy long list of quarterbacks this off season in particular you know if this was last year or two years ago he probably has a shot to go sign somewhere else but now now manning you're like if any. NFL team is looking for a quarterback. Eli Is Best. Their eighth option is agent. Is the last guy. They're calling to defined starting quarterback for twenty twenty and I think he realized that and he said you know what my whole career with one team. Why ruin that and go back and forth spot that I might lose which would be even worse so I'm just gonNA call it quits? Yeah I mean I'm a bears fan and we don't have a quarterback I would probably rather start Mitchell trubisky than ally manning hundred percent so I just don't know where he would start to breaches point. It's kind of bad luck for him. Because we don't normally see all these quarterbacks available and if it was just ally manning out there I bet you someone takes a chance on him. Says we're GONNA give you every chance to win a job but the point it's like yes. The bears trubisky. But they're they're probably gonna add someone like adult and someone else like that so there's just not really a place for him to go play. I actually Kinda respect the. I don't WanNa be backup quarterback. He doesn't need the money Breach as a fun fact about how much money he's made a ton it's an obscene amount of money. The Fun fact is that he is the highest paid player in NFL. L. History through the two thousand nineteen season's totals two hundred and fifty two point. Three million number two on the list is peyton manning at two hundred and forty eight point. Seven million for the manning brothers have combined to make five hundred million dollars chosen on-field earnings. Yes just like both those guys we've had because I actually interviewed Eli in I think it would it was like Two Thousand and two thousand seven or two thousand nate up in for a gatorade event and like I mean these guys have had like marketing deals in lucrative marketing deals in place. The second they got into the league I mean they're both top five first of all x right who was allies commercials. Payton's obviously remember birth the like state farm. I did Rolex man and he did DIRECTTV football on your phone phones for Colin there for football and the rap videos together for DIRECTTV. Come on you gotta remember that. I actually don't I actually don't remember those but I famously new commercials whenever they come on all time classics Fox Business Fox business. This retires. Yeah this is like a new article. It's like the all time I wanNA know how much you made off the field. I would guess that either. I probably made somewhere like. It's somewhere close to ten million a year off the field insane. It's believable. I mean you win. Two super bowls you're going to cash in due to several MVP paid you're the first person as soon as you walk off the field after you win one. I'm going to Disneyworld boom you just cashed in and that's just gonNa keep going off season. The guy hosted Saturday night. Live and twenty twelve. He was the last. NFL Player. I jj what's going to host it the night before the super bowl this year but before that e was the last NFL NFL player to host. Saturday night live. So it's like He. He was his brand. was that big which is kind of hard to believe because of the last five years. He's fallen so far but he was big. He was so big Calicut. Diva this is the best in the business. He just has a list of sponsors provided to me. I'm not gonNA pretend like I found all these enough depot stuff over the course of our time working together but but I like to give him credit for some stuff DIRECTTV gatorade hub lot. Nationwide Nike Panini Toyota N Visa. I mean he was. He made a united probably at birth. Probably a five hundred million dollars a piece not including like investments and stuff like Papa. John and Eli was never really as big in a commercial. I don't think but he like He. You know what the cigarette break when we come back. We'll ask the question who is better on. SNL Eli are paid. I four BBC. 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I'm not saying the painting stuff that was hilarious but I can actually remember like he was the kids right and like yelling them. He's had first of all the courtroom Emoji. skit where he he did like the tongue out like I remember that when he's a cure. Katie wwl is that one was funny then he had the one where he's like. It was the younger brother dodgeball. Or whatever and he's like he's like yes if I get mad I'm sorry. Take a bomb in the balls at them. You guys. It's funny Peyton. There's probably more famous but realizes funnier. Allies SNL his his hosting was pretty much epitomized. His football career. Like we only Kinda remember member but anybody who watches it was like that was awesome. That's like him in the playoffs. Awesome but during the regular season like what really happened on if he was that good. Maybe maybe Peyton and Guess Payton had the which would stop the kid in the car. Trunk was that Payton sounds like Peyton peyton anyway them and have a double mercy. podcast decide which ones better which one goes in the hall of fame of SNL hosting. That would be a ringer thing. Like all right. He is retiring. Let's go back into a remarkable is on Eli L.. Skit like like if they did that. That wouldn't be surprising right. It would not sean. I'm not speaking ill at the ringer. We're GONNA make jokes but I don't we try not to medium menial jobs we'll do broadcast we can bashing say they don't do podcast broadcast podcast. We're not criticizing another announcer. We're just making a joke about watching somebody if some if some guy wants to get an ESA SL podcast cast and thrash in other companies. Do Emergency podcasts salted back. Keep moving certainly not gonNA call him out for a week. You're right before the newest emergency by guessing like we're doing a new take on Eli Manning's career on a joint that's all right. I have a question for you guys. Yeah me will sean and Deebo. We are the pro football hall of fame. Committee fifty percent majority vote. He gets send your name is Eli Manning a hall of Famer. No no Oh yes yes but he has to wait. I I like that I can get down with that. You dealt with that because I do think that like and I'd say yes that's too too too. He had to get fifty percent he's anthem. Well I mean he's going. Let's make this very clear he's going to get in. I think if you took his statistics and his production in a vacuum and put them out there that like I like Joe flacco Super Bowl as he definitely hall of Famer he's now breaches. Joe flacco another hall of Famer with the Super Bowl in the second one. I don't think so because it was like. He got benched for being horrible herbal different situation where they felt like they had her job. Giovanni got hurt. The broncos blackhawks hurry Reagan's wackos career fell off a cliff after that super bowl that's-that's it Kinda just became what he was now. He just went. He's just got hot for four games and then he went back to being a like average who wasn't bad. It is very very average very I want a super bowl and then promptly led the league interceptions. Well my favorite way to characterize the Eli Manning is like yes. He went on the east blazing. Hot Playoff runs. But it wasn't like every time he was in the playoffs. He did that. He went one and done in the playoffs four times. He missed the playoffs. Ten in times in the super bowl runs right and like at least one of the super bowl runs. They weren't supposed to be in the playoffs the night and seven two hundred eleven and right. Yeah they went nine and seven and then the the other one that two thousand seven they were the fifth seed here. They beat deep undefeated patriots. He won more than ten games team. That won more than ten games in his career twice. But he is not remotely close to the to the level of like the level that he's going to be treated as he goes through the hall of fame and the in the way we we've been kind of characterizing this. We did with Keith in the hall of fame podcast. It's like at any point. was he a top five player at his position. I think I don't think there's an argument for yes I said that on. Hq I was like look. I'm not going to sugar coat. It like Pete phone or PRISCO every we're here I'm gonNA tell you like if his last name was Eli Smith or Eli FLACCO. He wouldn't be the hall of fame that Amanda came back with his name was ally Brinson. Well that's let's settle down Brenston. We gotta get this guy in your. He's Aden four in the playoffs like He. He went own one. I don't even remember this specifically because I don't I was working at. AOL in two thousand seventeen. He's eight and four in the playoffs. Why would you take those four? He also went on to crazy runs. Drew brees eight in the playoffs has as many win. I'm just saying that it's throwing a playoff record when there's only twelve quarterbacks in NFL history of multiple super bowls that Sean. Throw eight and four like it was a bad thing because that means he went one and done for years and I'm saying okay but he won he made a run on through to St. I was trying to point out. It wasn't like every time he got to the playoffs. He went nuts he just went nuts twice. I'm going to take it away. Those runs if you separate if you separate the two great runs from his if you say alright those like put those eight get eight wins aside and put them in their own category. They are incredible red bull productive like streaks but if you take the other four games put them in their own category. It's absolute crap like he went ten and eighteen in two thousand and five for one hundred thirteen yards no touchdowns and three picks in his first playoff game. Second playoff game. Sixteen to twenty seven two touchdowns one pick for one hundred one hundred sixty one yards in two thousand eight. He went fifteen to twenty nine. No touchdowns two picks and then in two thousand sixteen twenty three or forty forty four one touchdown one pick. He never had like Miami game. Yeah he was a streaky. I mean like he was just a streaky quarterback in. That's that's who he is. And that's okay but also being a quarterback in the playoffs is more difficult you know. Aaron Rodgers is ten innate. Let's take out his super bowl run all of a sudden he. Six eight doesn't look so spectacular. Yeah but you're saying take out two runs. I mean that's just absurd to say let's take out two of the best things he's done not one. It's too but he littered he and Joe Flaco and Jay Cutler had the same career. Except you lie has one more hot streak than did FLACCO. That's all it is it's one four-game stretch and I get the town. We measured things but it's like the same thing with element of the hall of fame. He just gets out in the play offs. I mean in some producing the regular season. Two I like you never was great. He's never releat like that. was the hot debate for so long but look validated with a second playoff. Second Super Bowl win but he wanted big moments. I get it. It wasn't a week he went. NFL Interceptions three times. Brinson talk I guess. He was top five at Position Group A few years. Yeah that's right. Yeah I mean He. Here's my question. Yeah well go ahead. How much do you guys put a value on longevity like is because because that is I think his besides his clutch runs that is his greatest skill is that he stayed healthy for so long? And the people talk about Frank Gore being a stat compiler alive manning it seems like like what's the ultimate stack compiler because he was never that great but he played sixteen games in almost every single year and he would throw you know between twenty and twenty five touchdowns every year and that's how winds up with three hundred sixty six of them. Do you put a lot of value on that. I don't think you can take that away from me. Why because what I would say about longevity is that you have to be good enough to keep keep that keep your position you know if you start to fade over time deteriorate? You're going to lose. That's why there's only a handful of guys that have ever started for sixteen straight years. You have to be at least slightly slightly above average. If he's playing d-minus football you know he would have been benched in twenty thirteen or two thousand eight. A lot of quarterbacks don't have careers that last very long So I don't see this as piling on stats necessarily because he was playing good enough to keep his job in one of the giants felt. They didn't need to replace him. I think that for virtually we all of his career ally. Manning was a top fifteen quarterback. They had no point. was He ever a below average quarterback except with the exception of like the final year. or You too depending on how you want to really define it. I mean look in two thousand. Eighteen team were five and eleven but even he had big numbers like forty three hundred yards. Twenty one touchdowns is an eleven interceptions. So but I don't think anybody thought but even in two thousand sixteen two thousand seventeen you know. He look at approximate value. He wasn't he wasn't ever a top five quarterback but it wasn't ever a bottom. Ten quarterback does that is that twenty twenty twenty thirteen. I mean I think he maybe had one or two. There's years like two thousand eight. Thursday twenty thirteen twenty thirteen at the age of thirty. Two people. Were like this might be. He threw nine more interceptions than touchdowns at twenty seven seven interceptions completed less than fifty eight percent of his passes. Yeah I mean. The team went seven nine. I mean it's a two years removed from a super bowl. It was like the giants to move on and then he hung on for six more years. Unbelievable they've got an extended so I so I said no for the hall of fame I would be okay with. Eli Getting in as long as players like Matt Ryan and Philip Rivers Rivers. Also get it Because my mind they played at the similar time obviously same time. There's a lot of overlap in. Eli was never better than quarterbacks. At least in the regular season Season People Forget Matt Ryan had one of the greatest quarterback postseasons ever in. NFL history. It's just that when they are up. Twenty three twenty two three. They blew that game and no one ever talks about that. postseason run for that is right up there with flat goes. That's right up there with mahomes year right now with up there at the manning those two times so I would be totally okay. It's just GonNa make me mad if he gets in and those guys don't get it but all three getting in Sean. I'm glad you brought up that point because I think that is going to be the key when the committee does talk about uh-huh I possibly get in in twenty twenty five. It's going to say all right. If we put manning the hall of fame we're opening this Pandora's box will. We're going to have to let in a lot of quarterbacks backs potentially from this generation. Now you know the guys you named. Would you put in Matt Ryan or Philip Rivers if you can only choose one and you know like that's where things are going to start we're getting dicey because you can't put every quarterback from this generation and in every quarterback is going to have comparable numbers to heal I manning but maybe minus super bowl title. So it's GonNa be it's GonNa make the whole hall of Fame Process Dicey. Yeah I mean look it really is I think I I agree with Sean. Take like maybe that that more than anything and I understand that people listening to podcasts. And you guys know I mean like I have a bias towards Philip rivers and that's fine I'm not I'm not. It's not going to hide for it but I think that like to me it is important and maybe I don't think I dislike. Eli I just frustrated. By the way that not Li- is treated and the way that people particularly folks from the media in New York where a lot of the media reside tend to approach allies career when it seems very obvious to me that for large portions of his career. He was not the quarterback that he's being shown to be through these puff pieces like this the way that they get to that he played sixteen years of the giants. That's a long time. He deserves a pomp and circumstance on his way out but he's retiring hiring because he can't play anymore. The giants are benching him and they don't want to give him a new deal like he's retiring because there's nowhere else to go and the way that they're treating it as a little bit not not like that. Yeah but I think. That's how a lot of quarterback careers and I mean. You have a lot of guys who ended up on teams like Joe. Montana ended up with the chiefs things like that. You either say I can't do anymore and you know you're done or you try and string it out for one more two more seasons with another team which usually doesn't end well in very few instances doesn't end well. I do think that he picked a good time to go because he is obviously going to be like. You know he's he's after Payton Payton's GonNa get in two thousand twenty one or twenty twenty or whatever it is I think twenty twenty one Peyton Peyton and then like there's no other hall of fame quarterback he'll have to compete with in his year assuming that Brady rivers embryos. Don't retire this off season and Rothlisberger not do that just to me but look if it seems like. We don't think any of those guys are retiring this season right so if you lie and you're you're thinking okay I've made I'm the richest the richest player in NFL history history. I'm probably in the famed ball rings. I don't want to go play for. Jacksonville is the backup that would suck. I can just walk away right now and enjoy my life. And I'll I'll be rich and he's GonNa be on the first ballot because he's the only quarterback eligible in that Spain like he's just GonNa Waltz in great. I don't disagree with anything. You're saying. Okay so to be honest like I always. Here's the thing you can only put this is again. You can only put one guy on the hall of fame you can only but one guy in the hall of fame in two thousand twenty five keithly or Eli. I probably go you I sean working on opposite side of everything. I mean I think the way I would answer this is I would choose keithly but I think it would be Eli. Oh Yeah we're not. We're not answering what we think would happen. Know know what I was GonNa say though because as you said we're GONNA be on opposite sides. I think I've come along over the last several months. We've known this day was coming for a long time. I've come come more on board with the idea of letting him in because I do think that like the numbers. Aren't everything like that passed. The helmet catch goes down twenty yard completion but like I think it's obviously that that passes much more important than a twenty yard completion and I think the best argument in in favor of Eli Manning if you think the hall of fame is like a historical document that tells the story of football. I don't think you can tell that story alive. Eli Manning and look I think that is a great way to put it and I also think that's why not we're not getting into this already thirty minutes and that's plenty on alive but like that's why Barry Bonds Roger Clemens should be by quit maybe think of it because I saw someone phrase it that way about bonds and clemens. Oh I look at it with. Eli You you if you if you took away Eli manning like if you if you just radicalized him from the wreckage like nobody would know about it. There would be blank spots in the in the history of professional freshener football. Because then there'd be undefeated patriots team. No one would care about the seventy two dolphins. The Patriots have eight Super Bowl rings and no one would care about anything else. Ever 'cause that's literally literally what like fifteen percent of all super bowls banning played a huge role in. NFL history. Assange said so. I think you should consider that JOE FLACCO word us get out of here. That's the end of the joke is going to go in the hall of fame without question. Michael retires do we have an emergency. PODCAST was right on. Andy Dalton retires. Tomorrow we have emergency podcast. Yes because everyone expects him to backup somewhere next year. That would be a surprise yes. I'm ready for it. I'm already prepped. For that got the notes ready back. Jaguars quarterback Andy Dalton. But what I was GONNA say zero quick. If you look at the class five years from now probably only walk is going to be Adam Vegetarian. If he doesn't play next season I don't think he will. He's getting too old. They had a rough twenty nineteen. So you're looking at Adam. Viteri eat y manning and keep keithly weekly. It'll be an interesting very interesting I think. Yeah look look five years removed from now it. 'cause you gotta remember how you look back at these things allies like when you look back on his resume Inter talapity ready instead of parsing it. By individual seasons which is what ultimately happens allies to slam dunk. He has the numbers. He has the rings. It's five years from now when we're looking back it'll it'd be very easy to do. So manning almost Glock Job Hall of Famer First Ballot Twenty twenty-five now retired as giants quarterback. Great podcast guys. We will make sure and take out the feed have tons of stuff going on. Take the host of the state of combat podcast with Brian Campbell. Twenty twenty it's going to be a huge year for combat sports conor McGregor return the fury wilder heavyweight boxing rematch. How about the W royal rumble? 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Steelers Preview, Part 1: Week 3 is more than just a Watt Family Reunion

Behind the Steel Curtain

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Steelers Preview, Part 1: Week 3 is more than just a Watt Family Reunion

"Pittsburgh steeler fans welcome back to another episode of the steelers preview I. Am Jeff Hartmann Co, editor of behind a steel curtain dot com in joining me as always the triumphant trio made up of Dave Scofield Brian Anthony Davis Dave. What's up how you doing? Hey, I'm doing alright. Once again, I guess we're going to miss episode two of the Terry Bradshaw show. I didn't watch it anyway since I brought it up last week to get. Let's hey baby. Brian. Anthony Davis. Welcome to the show house God I. GotTa Go. I didn't know Brad Troas on and. So I gotta go. Dave I've got a problem with Dave House literature to now started and ready. Yeah. The steelers. When he starts off with hey, that's not that's not the greeting when the steelers are to and hopefully three now. So let's try that again Dave how you doing. Hey. No. Sorry. season, there is a certain person on on staff at behind the steel curtain that decided they were going to make. Corrections and make my life so difficult because they could follow simple directions in picking our staff games every week and therefore threw off our numbers. I am not going to say who it was but his name rhymes with Diane Ranch. Fanie? Mavis. Did, I APOLOGIZE You did and I figured it out. I figured I figured out a work out and did. It my wife side with you. I was in trouble Jeff. The phone calls like review. The kid in school didn't follow directions I'm like I don't follow directions now. Didn't you read the email I didn't even read the email Dave just. Do. Follow direct you. All right. You too. Let's get this show on the Pittsburgh steelers to know. That's right. The last time we were here talking we were previewing the week two game against the Denver Broncos in which case they were victorious. Wasn't pretty but they were victorious nonetheless into now we turn the page and we turn our attention to the Houston Texans Shawn Watson Jj Watt come into town. I'm sorry coming to Tan this Sunday one pm kick-off. Heinz field. No. Fans Boring and I WANNA ask you guys real quick. Are you like me. I hate this fake crowd noise I think the fake crowd noise makes me want to punch a hole in my wall and I gotta say the our the Monday morning quarterback. Why fall on twitter he said it perfectly. Someone is actually messing with the crowd noise says, someone is actually you know they have these noises. It's like a crescendo. You know like a deep pass you hear someone is actually controlling. It's not just a dull you listen to the NHL Playoffs I haven't listened to months. But if you listened NHL playoffs is just kind of like this dull undertone of noise in the NFL it's it fluctuates in so you're sitting there in the opposite new here. You're used to that happening. What does that? Tell you something happened? There's a late flag someone got called for. There's a fight on the field. There's something going on and there's other going on guys tell me that this is annoying to you as it is to me Brian go ahead. I don't WanNa be violent like you. Jeff I mean I. I really don't want to. Reorganize my entire wall by punching holes in it but. I don't like laugh tracks I like natural I don't care if there's fan noise. The only thing about it is I really can't tell the difference between the fact that you know fans are in the stands or not. So the viewing experience is in a ruined for me with the fact that there aren't any fans but it doesn't enhance it either I can take it or leave it but I'd rather leave it. Dave, what about you? Well. From my understanding is that they made this a very complex process where they developed an algorithm or whatever going with NFL films of how stadiums responded to certain situations and how an actually used audio from those stadiums. In order to recreate these things hence why I'm pretty sure the Philadelphia Eagles got booed off. The. First. I'm pretty sure that that happened but I will be honest with you I sit there and complain that I don't like it. But if it was just silent, I would hate that more. So I look at it and you're like it I'm not gonNA. Let it bother me at all because I still think it's better than than. The eareas of the of complete silence where they would have to bleep out so much stuff that you wouldn't even be able to hear any harmless editor may get much better. I. See I. don't agree I would I would. I'd rather I'd rather it be the sound of the ocean in the background or something like that rather than just silence. Well, I'm okay. If they do the fake crowd, was I gonNa touchdown stimulate the excitement of the crowd. It's the stuff in between that I can't stand a year literally thinking Oh man, there's a flag you hear the crowd and I get it. It's very authentic because it tricks you but I can't stand it. I can't stand it I. I can't stand the fact I hope that they are able to get van some fans in Heinz field after the month of September we'll see but at the same time I mean. But then again you see Cleveland Brown stands fighting when they're. finished. This is great. It wasn't it between two browns fans yeah. Yeah. Yeah Yeah. There wasn't a bengals fan thrown in there to browns fans that day. CLEVELAND'S GONNA Cleveland right all right. I WanNa be I do WANNA make a point to say that if anyone here on youtube which relied on youtube on Thursday night if anyone here on youtube that hasn't checked out the know your enemy podcast any week because we got three shows now and that's Michael. Beck in Jeffrey Benedict. You're really missing out a really great shell, and if you listened in podcast form, for instance, this week because their guests can only stay half the show. The first half is literally must-listen. It's a former player. What's his name? Brian? Do you remember Yes south pain? Yeah. So he played for the Texans also played for the Jaguars he's giving he he obviously follows the Texans and covers the Texans it's tremendous stuff I. Just WanNa give them a plug because if you haven't checked out yet, check it out and it's worth your time check out all of our shows but I listened to that one today both parts was really good good. What as the MERV Griffin of that show the executive producer who dream that show up I feel very special about it and I think it's great. It's exceeded my expectations I thought what those guys do with it. Not just You know you don't need a guest star with the knowledge that that Michael and Jeffrey have about the other team they do such A. Fantastic job with it. Then you throw in somebody from another site or an NFL expert like a former player like seth payne the other day it's just absolutely fantastic. So really that makes your Wednesday night live worth it in your Thursday afternoons checking out getting ready for the game because you're more informed and more ready for the game more than ever because bt Esi. and. Honest. We're getting used prepared as we can on the audience side, you have the know your enemy podcast you have the preview have every single injury report, Mike Tomlin recaps an plenty of commentary whether it's Dave Scofield staticky my let's ride the live Mike with Michael. Back on Tuesday in the weekend shows with our Ozzy's Danda and they're in the live chat right now and then you also have a brunch with Tony and it's honestly lineup. The pre-game show is great. So I hope you are checking it out to those is quick cyber. Dave go ahead. My question was with the show last night. Did he give his prediction? He did Pain. Clubber Lang. Rocky three. And I'm not trying to kiss up because I've ruined his life checkout staticky this. Fitness. We're talking about the show on the phone today. It's really good. So I mean, I, know I've ruined his life but. I really don't care because that's just who I am Hey. Brian. You had a chance to be one of the top guys picking Games on television I came in third and you actually had be beat except the extra picture through when you're screwed up you actually I. Don't know if you know this I looked at it you were eighth. Cares about eight when you can be one twenty third. The. Drew Three. Hundred thirty five whether it's one, thirty eight. Jeffrey. Number. One last week to be one thirty, three out of one, thirty, eight this week. So Yeah. Peaks speaks valleys. All right. Guys. Here's the thing about this game coming up on Sunday. Everyone is making this out to be the Wassall in before we talk about the logistics of that. Ayman Al Shock. This isn't a primetime game I mean. They you eat this stuff up on NBC and even CBS putting it at four fifteen. I'm stunned and protect the Game Brian You surprised this was just a one o'clock kick-off. You know what we do the predicts the schedule predictions at the beginning and I predicted this to be either Sunday or Monday night game and I was shocked when it wasn't because it's the watt family reunions, watts happening. You know that's I mean it's a subway commercial come to life. It's the reunion of ultimate tag. It's everything you want. With. These three guys that are hot right now they're they're bigger than the Jonas brothers and the Jonas. Brothers. Are Back Ladies and gentlemen with a big hit this year. So these guys are huge right now and actually teaches becoming the biggest star of them all he's soon enough going this surpass jj as a huge star. But like you said, it's not just the what bowl. There's so much more to both of these teams. It's going to be a really good game because you have a team that played to. Super Bowl contenders the first two weeks and they're they're possibly playing a third one in this week and the Pittsburgh steelers. Davey fries just wasn't primetime. Yeah just or just a very large highlighted game. I mean Jeff you do the article that has the map, the coverage map of WHO GETS WHAT GAME This one, this week is going to be in blue. Doesn't really jump out at you being all that big. It's Pennsylvania it's Texas and shockingly a little bit in Jacksonville because they're playing now and they got no one else to watch. And it's it doesn't you get all these other colors in there? So it's not even A. Even being the one o'clock game, it's not even the one o'clock game. Last weeks was more that you know instead of Greg Gumbel. You've got an eagle. So furious I in. Eagles doing this game. Yes. And Faust Anymore Oh there you remember he's Arles, the Charles Davis I can. I can I can take that I chose my uncle Charles will take care of us. So good chuck. But we knew this couldn't get flexed because they don't start flexing games until we five it is I think five. I'd have to go chestnut refrigerator magnet because it says it on there. But Brian's right. There's so much more to this game other than the fact that JJ, watt, Derek widened TJ while will be playing in the same game on the same field for the first time in their entire lives. I'll do it realize that even when they were younger Jj Watt is so much older than Derek TJ. They've never played in a game on the same field together and you to think his parents were all parents on the show. Could you imagine not being able to go to this game and seeing it live like that? Would that would be awful like? Sneak them in somehow press credential. Locks come WANNA give them in there. Anyways, this is a game that I think a lot of steeler fans are you get a feel you kind of put your finger on the pulse of steeler nation and you kind of get a feel that a lot of fans are like well, this is known to team. It's just GonNa be a an easy W I. do not get that feeling about this game I think this is going to be a tough one I think that the defense is going to be tested. Mainly because the quarterback. Brian when you think about this game, what what jumps off outside of the family reunion stuff what jumps out as it's something that you know, hey, steeler fan should be concerned about this. Does Shawn Watson you're not getting seven sacks this week because Sean Jackson. Excuse me just to Shawn Watson Excuse me would not let you get seven sacks on him this week he will outrun sacks. He is a savvy quarterback. He's a playmaker with his legs. He's a preview to Lamar Jackson as well. Dave had a here I'm I'm dave show the other day but we're the steelers are on track for eighty sacks in this day and age. You can't have guys like Sean does, Shawn Watson, and Lamar Jackson in the League in rack up all those sacks against him so. Well sure. We'll be talking about over with saks later but. He's going to control the narrative on the offensive side of the ball for the Houston Texans and he's a very dangerous playmaker. He does not need Andrei Hopkins. to Go ahead and make throws. Away you dave. I mean. This. Is the best thing they played this year. And it's funny because the row to. But yes, this is the best. But then again, the two other teams player both own too. But I in my opinion, this is the best team. steelers will face this year by far. Especially, just look at last year's record and I know they're not it's not the same team every year but this is the first team that the steelers are facing this season head a winning record last year, and that went to the playoffs last year. You know I mean they won they won their division last year. So, now, we all know what I mean. What happened in that was that was the second round of the playoffs though. With them cracks when they were up on up big on the Super Bowl. Champs. And blue the big lead. Yeah. So This team, it's still that team. So you can't just look at this and say. To know I mean they've played they played the number one and number two team from. AFC. Fear. So this is their biggest test and and the the point spread says it so. I think did. And this is something that was mentioned in the podcast last night Wednesday night know your enemy jj watts playing really good football I mean Jj. Watt looks like defensive player of the year Jj Watt Not J. Watt just as coming off an AFC defensive player of the week in week two with two and a half sacks, and he's he and his brother are neck and neck when you look at their statistics I think the only difference is a half sack that TJ has overtop JJ JJ WATT can wreck your offensive game plan. Don't think that he can't. He's been injured a lot. He looks like he's in great shape everything that they said about hamlet's was definitely glowing. But I don't want to tip off of my let's ride is gonNA published Friday morning but. If you're listening in audio you have go back and duty for watching live. Enlisted tomorrow morning. I think that the offense is really not just step up their game. I think this one could be a game where they have to kind of go. Blow for blow speak with the with the office. I just don't know what it is. I trust the steelers defense I wouldn't be shocked if they come out and have a good performance because. Like the the gentleman said Mr Pain that avenues on the show he said everything that the steelers do well on defense. The Texans struggle with on offense especially on the offensive line things like stunts and the tackle position and being able to pass off players I've seen this movie too many times. I mean where everyone is pumping up, the steelers then needs. You're setting us up for a letdown I hope it doesn't happen. I. Hope it doesn't happen. But at the same time, there's a lot of reasons to be a little bit concerned about this game because like you said, this is the toughest game they've on their schedule so far to Shawn Watson is not Daniel Jones. The Shawn Watson is not Jeff Driscoll or drew lock for half of a quarter, and this is gonNA. Be a different beast quick question for you guys does Joshua Dobbs being in the system being the practice quarterback help in this instance day will give you. Yes. You things out. I mean, it doesn't hurt. But I mean. I don't know if it helps a ton but helps absolutely. Brian you agree absolutely that's why last year they brought a lot of guys in they brought in running quarterbacks before. Before they played Arizona they bring him on for one week on the practice squad. So yeah, that's important and they've already I I believe Tomlin mentioned the fact in this press conference that that Dobbs will become an on for something like that. Okay Let's talk about the steelers a little bit. Everyone's pointing to Ben Rothlisberger rightfully. So in I've asked this question in the off season I've asked this question multiple times rhetorically on my show. Let's right. I want to ask you guys the same question. What point do you think that the rush should be gone from Ben Rothlisberger granted it's been a calendar year. Okay. Says been a long time. He said two games under his belt he's playing well, I mean Dave talked about it in his show I. talked about it on my let's right on Wednesday. He's playing good football. And he had a one stinker though one bad pass third quarter in week two other than that. He's protected the football well, guys when will it wouldn't for you? Individually, not the fan base but for you individually, what point we you say all right. Then the enough of the talk you should be good to go Bryan we'll start with you. Typically in past years, he's he has the rust off around. Halfway through week three. So, I'm thinking this year. No preseason whatsoever. I'm thinking sometime towards the fourth quarter week three. Okay. So you're saying this week the end of the seriously by week four, he should be he's completely back. I think he's back already and I love the way he's playing I. Don't I'm not as hard on ban is as being as hard on Ben but you know I think he should be in Ben form the what we expect of him by by the end of this game. Day Agree Disagree I completely agree with Brian. I'm GonNa tell you what I hope. I hope it doesn't go away. If ben if Rusty Ben is Ben Making, sure that he is making accurate throws and not saying all I think I can make this play. You know maybe being a little bit more cerebral and not as instinct jewel and everything. Then I don't want it to change I. Am one hundred percent happy with Ben. Rothlisberger, we've had in weeks wanted to in all honesty he's on pace for forty three, hundred yards, forty touchdowns and Abia receptions. That's what I said instead Geek I'm like I'm perfectly fine with that and if and if some people want to say, Oh, well, he's. I'm fine with it. I. I don't feel like he's the same Ben maybe a little bit. I. Think he might be a little bit more cautious and I don't mind a little bit more cautious Ben with this defense. and. Ben said that in his interview on Wednesdays, sometimes a punt is not a bad thing with this defense turning it over is where you get into problems. So maybe we are seeing a little bit of a change in the gunslinger I think that to me I was thinking all along and I'm gonNA stick by my guns here and I'm GonNa say the first quarter so after. Week four I would think that you know a whole calendar year off no preseason no off-season physical workouts that he in the offense should really start to be clicking I really. Do think that from week one to week two, they took they took a big step forward in terms of eight looked better. It looks more comfortable but let's talk. Let's do a little reindeer land experience here. That's scary. I don't WanNa be in that guy's head. Okay. But if you have to go inside that Amusement Park. In your drawing up what do you in terms of pass run ratio? What's your approach? How do you think the steelers should attack offensively in this game? Like what is if you're the offense coordinator your mo going into Heinsohn we three we know in game adjustments are going to be made, but Dave will start with you. If your feet ner then you're Ben Rothlisberger drawn on. Okay. We think this is gonNA work. What's your approach to the Houston Texans? I say run the ball. I mean they've given up a lot on the ground so far this year, but you also gotta look at the teams they've played but Kansas. City, did not look nearly as good on the ground week to even with the extra rest is what they did against. They did against San Diego against the chargers what they did against the Texas I'm saying run the ball and if the runs not working. Then throw the ball other than Jj Watt I don't see anything from his defense. It overly scares me always know where what is always take care of him. US. Three guys on if you must. If you know what I mean, and then just just take what the defense is giving you the less. But you, Brian, what did you what your approach to this game offensively I love how you called Randy Land and Amusement Park I think about that I think it's already old sparks. Dave's Dave. Got It. Here I want to run to set up the past in this game, and then once that's set up just a sneak one past the goalie and rip out their hearts with a deep one and you've got the get. You definitely have guys to do it and with Klay Pool, you even more have the guys to do it and I was watching I was watching the two thousand and four Halloween game today getting ready for. Getting Ready for The retro show that showed with Tony and so I was actually watching the game a little more this time and I noticed it was Benn's rookie year and how much he relied on plex ago. And he had that big tall fast receiver that he was able to get to, and he was so comfortable with them and I can see that same thing developing with chase a apple through the course of the season. So I'm I'm thinking that. You run the ball you run it then drive that stake through their heart with big pass and they did it the other the other day to with at eighty four yarder. They kind of caught the the broncos off guard with that I'd like to see more of that. If I'm the steelers I'm coming out in I'm taking shot deep early. Chase clay on the field because you know that the Texans of watched that eighty four yard touchdown probably ad Nauseam just on loop and they're saying we cannot let this happen to us. We gotta keep everything in front of us, and then if there's I, feel like if I, say if he's Smart Randy Female Reno, he's not that smart. If you get chase scrape on the field more he's at least a threat to go deep. When was the last time? The steelers even had that thread on their team I'd go back to Martavis Bryant I. You can't tell me anyone else has been on the Roster Darius. Hayward Bay was not an actual threat he ran fast but there was never really a threat of a big completion chase. Cape was already proven that in week one in his first reception ever, and then it will get to the eighty four yarder. Just data loan if they have to slide a safety to his side. My Gosh you're gonNA leave so much open for players ideology. Johnson Juju Smith Schuster Eric Brown I think Iran's GonNa have a big game not the tip my hand here with X. factors things like that. I think Hebron's going to be in for a big game but you know I think that steelers could come out and use the pass to even open up the run and open up the offense a little bit everyone will hate it never complain about it. But at the same time I feel like there's there's place to be had in they can do it and they have this position players to do it but let's Say Can I give you a specific play like you just said sure piss one. Have have your tight ends. Brandon, McDonald and put out put Klay Pool in Washington as youtube receivers one running back, send both deep. They might be focused on clay poll. You have Jay wash for the for the deep reception. You know something else he's known for so. I would love to draw up that play. You're right with the too tight end said, they might go single high in which case they're probably gonNA shake label side in which case you have Washington one on one's gotta both. But you have to have threat think back to two, thousand, nineteen, even two, thousand, eighteen when they didn't have Martavis Bryant. You never had the threat of going deep, but this brings me to my next point in that is the injury report. So we're all talking about how judy's misuse is going to play a role here Juju Smith Schuster missed practice again on Thursday, now depending on what you're listening to this, the Radja practice report might already be finalized in terms of the final designations that happens Friday afternoon but as of right now on this team recorded. Dave go hadn't run down with the injury report look site of the injury report. It's very simple in this case, there was only. Everyone returned to practice for the steelers. except. Unique. Subjects. And you talked about it on your injury report podcast, I listen to by the way. And the issue there was. I'd send it to you I. Think if it was good practice, I think the bar's GonNa be there they practice and I got to think of when I listen to your podcast and Mike. They described in. Another practice squad wide receiver. Do you think maybe Juju could've practiced and they said, you know we can give more work than these other guys. You're good. We've got too many people practicing today. You're good. That's that's me West, can you again I'M I'm thinking Juju is going to be out for full participant, and if he has any designation tomorrow, it'll be probable but there is no probable anymore Dave there is. No No. More. No I. Thought they were either questionable or doubtful I thought. I thought it was either questionable Audi. You might be right. Those in between ones. So someone asked what about decastro he's been full participant always going to have a have a status tomorrow. Don't you get me started on burst steelers organization and the? Other. Mad about it. Brian when you hear Juju Smith Schuster is possibly going to be out of this game which we're not. I don't want to jump the gun here, but he has missed practice Wednesday, and Thursday no one that covers the team that's inside that that building has said that. There's any concern that he's GonNa, Miss the game you know sometimes you hear people talking whether it's coaches or front office and Judy might not be good to go. Judy did an interview after practice on Wednesday. Pretty sure. Most of the time if you have a pretty serious injury, you're probably not going to be doing a an interview with whether zoom or not or Brian Juju. Smith. Schuster missing big deal if he does miss. Let me ask you fellas a question boy Wendy. You remember the leading receiver from last year flip flopping between third and fourth on the depth chart as far as what receivers and that's James. Washington you. We've. We really haven't even scratched the surface with Eric Ibrox Vance. McDonald was well, you know those guys are tight ends I get it. If Juju doesn't play, you have so many guys to fill in the blanks because if they're doubling up. Chase Klay Poll deontay James Washington are going to kill you same with any of those combinations of food they're doubling up any of those guys they're going to rip out your throats. This is one of the first times in a long time that I think that the steelers can kill you in. So many ways Ben Roethlisberger cupboard is I mean it's full with with Arsenal now I want you to Smith Schuster play I. Still think he is the heart of that wide receiver core he really is I don't think that you know I kind of agree with. Dave in you as well with the fact that you know if you had a serious injury, why would he be talking to the media I? Mean you know you could leave leave a guy out for a little while if you remember years ago when Troy Paulo Malu was on the he was on the injury report for age old age or something that like Tomlin put him on you guys remember that or is that something I'm dreaming? It's advanced age or something like that. But you know so I think they're just being cautious and it's the same thing we've talked about decastro. If decastro one, hundred percent don't send them out there. You know be smart because you some guys that aren't liabilities backing these players up. So with Juju I want him in there, I that cover to be full, but they can go a week or two without some of these guys because the guys waiting behind them. They're superstars well. And someone in live chat said you know also if Judy doesn't play, you're going to be looking at the twenty twenty one wide receiver depth chart, which is a very good point So stay tuned I do think he's GonNa play I. Think Dave. You think he's GonNa play to yes. Go Gas. Brian. Do you think you'll play Brian. I think he does. All right. If you. Tomorrow v Practice as obviously key, but I'm wrong a lot. We all are so listen when we come back after this break for those on youtube stay tuned not GonNa Miss Anything for those audio check out parts you. We're GONNA talk about X. Factors we're talking about fantasy football. We're GONNA do the over under game predictions and Trivia a whole lot of great stuff in part to stick around we'll be right back.

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'Valentine's Views' podcast: Emory Hunt tells us why Giants passing on Dwayne Haskins would be a mistake

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36:46 min | 2 years ago

'Valentine's Views' podcast: Emory Hunt tells us why Giants passing on Dwayne Haskins would be a mistake

"Hey listeners we're in the heat of one of the greatest sports events of the year. You guessed it March madness. And the best place to stay on top of all the NCAA tournament. Coverage CBS sports HQ, what is CVS forte JR. Q. It is the free twenty four hour sports network. That's built for fans. Just like you from nonstop highlights to news and analysis. CBS sports HQ got you covered checkout. CBS sports HQ. It is always on and always free not to pay subscription fee or have an expensive cable package. Download the CBS sports app on your phone fire TV Roku or apple TV start watching today. Welcome to another edition of the Valentine's views podcast giants fans. Today's show will feature a special guest. We'll have Ameri hunt of football game plan here to break down some of the NFL draft prospects to react to some of what's been going on. In fact, you know, let's let's not mess around. Let's get right to it. Let's bring in Emory right now 'em. How you doing? I'm doing fine edit, and I always appreciate you bring me. Oh, always always loved to love to have you. You know for folks who don't know Emory's work at football game plan, which you can find on their website. You can find on YouTube. You can probably find just about anywhere is is great stuff in one of the things. I love about about Emory's work is. Pay a lot of attention to the small school prospects. And and and football game plan. You know, you don't it's not group think it's it's pure and simple your own opinion. And it's different from a lot of what you hear another places. Yeah. You always wanna just make sure if you're going to do this. You wanna do it your way, and and not be influenced by others because at the end of the day, if you if you're going to do something on your own was the purpose of crowd sourcing or group thinking with everybody else if you're going to be wrong be wrong by yourself. And you know, and that's one of the biggest things that I made sure to to follow. Once. I started football game plan back in two thousand seven I like that if you're going to be wrong be wrong. Or again, if you're going to be right? You know, you might as well be the only one who's right? Well, always rather be right by myself than wrong in a group, you know, with with that in mind, that's actually a really good place to start on the last podcast that I did I had met Waldman of the rookie scouting portfolio. And you know, Matt is a guy who makes his living studying ofensive skill position players, obviously including quarterbacks. Matt came on. And I asked him the question of is there a quarterback who is a value pick for the giants at number six because Dave Gettleman, Pat Shurmur John Mara have all talked about if they pick a quarterback they want it to be valued. They don't wanna reach for a guy. And he said, no what I also have heard, you know, in reference to the giants and quarterback is that the pick absolutely will not be Dwayne Haskins. Right. And I know I know you are a Haskins guy you've been beating that drum ever since. We've sat in the press box together for games last last fall. So I'm offering you the floor for a rebuttal to to tell us. Why you think has would be the right guy at six because he's the top. Quarterback prospect in this draft and would have been the top quarterback prospect in last draft. And we look at what he does extremely well. Accuracy anticipation. The timing is is where it needs to be a lot is fun to hear a lot of people talk about the weapons that he had it Ohio State all the receivers. But you didn't hear about these receivers last year why because the way Hassans wasn't a quarterback. Now this year you hear all about the receivers where you talk about a guy to deals with pressure. Like, he does he's the best one to anticipate coming in throwing with the vicious vacated and get rid of getting rid of football. You talk about other guy that had what fifty touchdowns eight interceptions as a lot of great decisions. He's made with the ball considering for starting. He so great as a prospect heat forced urban Meyer to change the way he thinks about office because normally urban wants to run the quarterback he was forced not to do that with Dwayne Haskins. And you talk about fitting him in with the giants. And the giants have now surrounded. They're receiving corps with guys that can. Catch the ball and do things apple to catch golden Tate. Sterling Shepard Korey Coleman. Even look at it in ebony Ingram. So you combine their skills with the quarterback that does a great job with his placement in accuracy. And allow these receives to take advantage of their run out to the Catskills. Why wouldn't you wanna quarterback like Wayne Haskins? It's funny 'cause last year people said oh to giant the quarterback. No matter what don't take Barkley. They'll take a running back this year. It's take everything else. But the quarterback when Haskins is the premier prospect is funny because last you had a guy in Lamar Jackson. Everyone talked about while Kenny play in a pocket will he be able to make plays in the pocket. He was only rookie quarterback to go to place and also win a division title and this year with the way Haskins. It's he plays in a pocket too much. So I I can't keep up with people, and what they want at the position all knows whoever gets Hassans going to superstar at the position. That is exactly what guys have wanted at the position since been. So I think if the giants Haskins it pushed him in. In line to have success after Manny hangs them up. So so I guess that what I should do, you know once we finish. Here's I should Email the MP three of this over to to nineteen twenty five giants drive with attention. Dave Gettleman on it. Exactly. Because again, this is football made easy. I just made it easy for. Yeah. What about you know, in your mind? Obviously, I think you kind of touched on him. The the criticisms of Haskins that we hear are one experience to a little bit of mobility. And I think you just mentioned, you know, the the Ben Rothlisberger comparison. So go ahead and talk to me about those two criticisms that we hear of Haskins. Oh, no. I wasn't comparing him to Rothberg said since been as in since the beginning of time. So okay, always all about that. But I can understand why someone would say Ben Rothlisberger because they do have that same level of footwork within the pocket, but to dress your points about some of the criticisms of Haskins, you know, as far as the experiences concerned. It's funny. How no one had these questions about Mr. Bisky who went second or role in drafted featured the future NFL MVP and Pat Mahomes in a dynamic player in the Shawn Watson. No one had an. She with that. And the reason why don't have an issue with Haskins one year of starting even though he played a lot of the previous year and plea. Well, is the fact that his one year also will call a Murray were spectacular. We talking about a Heisman finalist. When that is about a guy that completed, you know, sixty one percent of his passes twenty three touchdowns nine or substance. You know, something like that. We're talking about a guy has set big ten records records at having been broken since drew Brees was there ninety nine. And we haven't seen anyone as prolific as Haskins since two thousand eleven when Russell Wilson was there was content with thirty three thousand four in a substance seventy three percent completion presente. So this is a guy who has been prolific in his one year. And that's something that should help mitigate the worries of of the fact that a guy hadn't started four years if he was just okay in decent in his one year. Starting Trubisky was at North Carolina. I can understand the concerns, but he. He was prolific dislike column or who's played essentially one year as a starter. You don't hit those questions about column Murray more so than here about the way Haskins. I just find a comical that. We're here talking about a guy that fits all of the standards at the NFL once at the position. And now all of a sudden they won't guys that could be mobile in creed on a fly when they had a chance to take guy last year he to pick thirty two and ended up being the only guy again to win a division title as a rookie and lead his team into the playoffs. And also the only rookie to have a winning record. So who knows what the league wants? I know for fact that the Wayne Haskins is a can't miss prospect. Well, I asked you for a rebuttal in that most certainly is a very strong rebuttal. And I knew I I knew you'd come through on that one. Because I know how long you've been you've been banging that drum in and I guess we'll see if you're right or if the giants wind up being right here because I just don't think in the end that the giants are going to go that way. Get your brackets ready. March madness is here and the best place to stay on top of all the NCAA tournament. Coverage. CBS sports HQ CBS sports HQ is a free twenty four hour sports network. That's built for fans just like you from nonstop highlights to news and analysis. CBS sports HQ got you covered by cutting through the noise of hot takes fake debates to get smart analysis, and helpful highlights for your fantasy teams and beyond checkout. CBS sports HQ. It's always on an always free. No need to pay subscription fee or have an expensive cable pack. Download the CBS sports app on your phone fire TV Roku or apple TV to start watching today. Hello. I'm Spencer hall from Espy nation. And I wanna tell you about my new show. It seemed smart. It's smart as show about people doing things that for some reason or another seem smart at the time. Those things might include doing a little cocaine and driving a bike up a mountain or I don't know maybe racing one hundred miles per hour across the country in the middle of the night with no one's permission or even stealing a bat from an empire is room in a major league baseball park, check it out. And if you like it Tele friend, I'm Spencer hall, don't do anything smart. So let's let's do this 'em. So let's assume the giants aren't going to go, you know, quarterback at six let's assume they're going to go, you know, edge guy pass rusher. Best defensive player available. The way that the draft the way you might expect a draft to go. I mean, who are the guys that you think the giants, you know, should be targeting at that spot. If they're gonna go defense. I think you have to go front to back even though they have a need at corner. If you're sitting there at six, and he'd do the dumb decision of taking the way Haskins if you sit on the board, then I think you probably should try to attack the defensive line. And if for whatever reason at Oliver sitting there and Ed Oliver suffering from the same fate as Wayne Haskins where last year it was oh by far number one overall pick it out of just put it in that whoever speaking, I take it Oliver. And then all of a sudden we see throughout the season his name pop up in the middle part of first round to the end of the first round. And it doesn't really get talked about anymore as premier prospect that he is. And so if you're the giants and using there at six, and it Oliver still on the board that automatically allows you to. Pressure quarterback from your defensive line was then should help. You have better match the linebacker position. And then ultimately as a result have better play on the corner. So I think if Oliver is there I wouldn't hesitate to pull the trigger. If they don't do the right thing by taking a quarterback. What about the the guys that are two of the guys? They're talked about quite a bit are Montezuma's wet and Rashawn Gary. If it comes to one of those guys, how do you feel about those two players both are really good athletes. So you you would really have to come down to which guy do you trust? The most sweat was phenomenal at Mississippi State tested. Well, Gary's a one as probably a bit polarizing because he is super athletic was the number one high school recruit and a lot has been made about his lack of productivity at Michigan. Although, you know, I always tell people you want to stay away from you know, productivity, in some cases, because we don't know what a guy was asked to do juxtapose what he can do. And when you notice all the guys around Gary having success, you're. Murray's hers the the chase one of each. Maybe that's because all the focus was due to the fact that you have a shine Gary up there and a lot of questions about Gary people had about Myles Garrett coming out of Texas. He dominated teams in the F C S and non power five programs. But when it came to SEC, he kinda disappeared and especially in the big games in. So I think you see a lot of the same questions about shine, Gary, right, wrong indifferent. So what he has the profiled that you want the athletic profile. He would be a good I like to call those guys boss defensive ends because he's a bigger guy at two eighty. But can also explode off the edge incorr- Ilie balance out your defense. So I think it became down to sweat, our Gary it all depends on if you have a trust your defensive line coach that he can get the most him on a consistent basis. Or are. We gonna see the most. Production out of him as a program we saw in college. All right. Am I think we could we could talk about this. We could talk about picked by pick. We could talk about position by position. You know, we could probably do this for hours, but the interests of of trying to keep this as tight as possible. I kinda wanna stay with the value discussion and what I'm going to do here. Some going to to kind of lump the giants picks at seventeen and thirty seven together. What I'll do our giants have seventeen thirty seven. If they don't go Haskins at six. Is there value in your mind at quarterback at either seventeen or thirty seven and who would you target there? I don't think there's value at the position on a back end unless you're willing to go small college ranks. But if that's the case, you have a guy that's already in your building that you can continue to work within groom. He's already got in a year in the system, and you can continue to develop him that way. So I wouldn't take a quarterback. It's not Haskins Murray in this particular class because the giants have a death guy already in cow Aleta that they can continue to work with. So I would probably go with the best value which will be on a inside of the ball. Now at seventeen you may see it depends on what happens in the top five because you know, how to draft goes are we're going to be a run on a certain position. So you may see a runoff defensive lineman early which will dim push some of the top. Corners off the board are down aboard. I'm sorry. So the giants at seventeen I probably would I don't call it a reach. But I will probably take the best corner before the run on corner start and that right? There is a big that's always a big knee for the for the position then at thirty seven come back with the value edge guy, which agai you probably can get along. You know, let's see outside linebacker or deepens. Maybe Jerry Tillery could be there at the top around two. They can help out to defensive line or maybe the edge guy that can really help provide depth in value to your back your second level. So it all depends on which way to decide to go. You could get a guy like L J, Collier. Maybe later in the draft. That's another value guy. If Cleland feral falls in the top around too. That's that's that's a solid pick there. So there's some other players by polite who I think is going to be a better pro with being talked about during the day Sirkin the combine circuit. But it I would probably. Go best corner at seventeen embezzle value. Ed defensive line guy at thirty seven. So that leads us to the question if you're going best corner for you who is that guy. I like Lonnie Johnson. And here's the thing too. When I grade corners, I break them down to three positions boundary corner field corner in slot corner. So if I'm looking at the giants right now Genoa jink is one corner. He usually plays the field side. So you wanna get like a bigger guy to to play on the on a boundary. And I think we look at lining Johnson. He has that makeup at six to ten that will be an option. I'm a big fan of rocky sin who's another one. I could play on the battery out of temple at sixty one ninety. And if you're looking for a slot guy, you have a couple of options by Murphy out of Washington is a really good pick. And I think one of the big things in Israel, not drafted a guy last year in the supplemental draft and Sam Bill. It's interesting to see what they believe Bill is and. And what he's going to be because we don't really know we saw one we were out there at practice that one day. And next thing, you know, the next day he was on the I R for shoulder injury. So we still don't know what the giants haven't saying Bill Grant Hill was able to step up in play a solid role as a nickel. But I still think you need those outside corners in you know, with the way they've been pushing out veterans have the kind of figure zinc will be the next guy on in their crosshairs. So I would probably lean toward Lonnie Johnson rockets in greedy Williams of fees there at seventeen I would probably more toward those guys because they not only can match up, but they also do a great job of taking ball away and turn overs are huge if you can score I want to team if you could take the ball away on what your team in those three corners me do a great job of doing that. So you you mentioned something interesting. You mentioned Sam Bill you take as a as a third round value in the supplemental draft last year. And I've been asked a couple of times where you know, what value Bill would have if he was in this current draft class. Dave Gettleman at the combine said that the giants believe that he would be a second round value in this current draft class. I don't really have opinions from from other draft analysts to to judge that against do. You have a feel for where you know, if you're ranking corners, you know, what sort of a value you would put on Beale if he was in this class Bill to me would probably be aware. He went in third round because I would be him as a slot corner. So I look at some of the top slot corners buyer. Murphy you have a big fan of Clifton, Doug. Out of Appalachian state, Jimmy moral out of James, Madison. And I think you know, he's a tick below those guys. So you talking about you know, guys like ham Cheever's or mantra heart out of northwestern. I think bill's around that that area. So I would say he's probably a third round tight prospect and it's wanted to because he ended up being third round supplemental driven. So I think that's where he would have been. But if you're going to rank him if you include all of the boundary and slot corners, he's probably like third or fourth round selection, in my opinion. All right. So one of the great things about your work and about football game plan is the amount of time that you spend, you know, talking to in in going out and in researching the small school guys. I don't know anybody else who travels to as many of the of the small all star games in workouts. I don't know anybody else other than an NFL scout who goes to as many of those things as you do. So I don't even want to know what your travel budget looks like let's start there. So so we have to talk about day three, and we have to talk about in terms of day three. We have to talk about a lot of the small school guys in. There are two guys that I wanna start with guys that that I've been told that the giants, you know. You know are intrigued by and I wanna start, you know, with those guys I wanna start with Titus Howard, the offensive tackle from Alabama in Jordan Brown, cornerback from South Dakota state in what you think of those two guys you can help the giants. What's their value? You know, where might they fit? You know in a draft where the giants have roughly a gazillion day three draft picks. So give me give me your take on those two guys. I like Titus Howard, man. And he's a good to talk to talk with him down at the senior bowl. You know, when you watch him, you see good level of versatility playing left and right tackle, he's probably going to be a second round pick to be honest. They the league is really high on him. But he would fit in perfectly with the giants would want a guy that can be a swing tackle. You know, you could probably plug him in right away on the right side. Or groom him to be the venture. Will start at left tackle every wanna do that Jordan Brown? Good athlete. Plays off real. Well, not the best tackler. But does a good job matching that one on one thought he was solid at the senior bowl. Also. So those guys I think would be real good fits right now for the giants. I love the versa. Leo both bomb. A I'm a bigger fan of Howard and his fit with the giants as opposed to Brown. Brown's a solid player is Howard a guy that you could legitimately seek coming off the board at thirty seven. Absolutely. And if a team is, you know, if you're the giants your thing in that way. Econo- wanna I I don't know off hand when the eagles pick by no the eagles are really high on on Titus Howard. And that would be a prime opportunity to take a guy away from division rival. So yes, it's pretty conceivable you could see Howard go that early in round two. And I've heard other people say that they do think he's a sort of plug and play starter at right? Tackle sounds like you you agree with that. Absolutely. And you like is upside in his want to be better again. It was a guy that was a quarterback coming into school then tied in and grew into an offense of Lyman and grew into one of the best ones in the sweat in the FCS and more than held his own mobile single. All right. So let's talk about day three the giants have eight selections from rounds four through seven. And you know, let's be honest. I mean, I've been asked you know, how many of those picks can the giants actually make you know, because I don't think you want in an ideal world, you don't want eight rookies that you drafted from rounds. Four through seven to be on your roster. So, you know, so the giants will probably move a couple of those picks maybe to get up into round three, and you know, and target somebody, you know, based on how the how the board falls. But let's just talk about some of the day. Three guys. You may be at wide receiver may be at tight end. You know, maybe defense guys corners, you know, that that that you really like who had kinda liked to see wind up with the giants. You know, the good part about Esa. Great question because when you're you own a producer kit. You see a bunch of these guys. Right. And you really see how they could fit a role with with giants and two guys on a defense. I right away causing Daniels out of Charleston is a great edge rusher. A lot of people talk about his team may John Kaminsky who played at the senior bowl. But when you watch Kaminsky on tape, you all always drawn to causing Daniels who. Who played the NFL PA game. He's another one that really gets after the quarterback. He's phenomenal with his hands. He would be a nice day three edge rusher that you could bring in that Zeus playing both with tan on the ground and with his hand off the ground and a position talking about inside linebacker, and there's a guy in Delaware that fits the mold. He could have played in the eighties nineties early two thousands complete now in as Troy reader out of Delaware. And the reason why like reader six three to forty five he ran for six. So he passes all the athletic tests. Right. But it's his ability on both ends of deep that makes him a very good insight. Linebacker within his defense. He can drop back in coverage. Really? Well has great hands. Not average has great hands. He never misses an opportunity to to come away with an interception. Great football IQ in coverage. He's able to re contest really really well get yourself in in between the ball receiver. So he's able to cut off. Out. So great job in pass coverage. Great attack in run downhill. He was a Penn State guide at transferred to Delaware to play with his brother who's a phenomenal highschool play. I actually covered his brother's high school championship game. I did the broadcast there in in that stadium in Delaware. So brought to transfer from Penn State to Delaware to play alongside his brother who was a linebacker there as well. So I think we look at Troy reader he fits the mold of insi-, backer. He run in cover. He makes plays on a ball. I think he would be a great addition. If you're if you're looking at y receiver if you notice a giants receivers, they don't have that big guy. Right. And one guy. That's underrated player that that has been making a lot of noise produce circuit and had phenomenal career a local product in Reggie White junior out of Monmouth six two to await ramp or five four five. I'm sorry. And you know, he's a guy that you don't think is running fast. But I was at the game two years ago where they played three years ago to play coastal Carolina and he hit him with a short passes the game. So it was two years ago. Short pass seventy five yards later. He outraced everybody to the end zone. So he can win short. He could win deep. He's more of a possession. Guided also has the ability to break away. And I know the scouts really were impressed with his workouts a couple of weeks ago at in, mama. So I would say those some of the guys that date three receiver a one of the position. I I'm jumping all over the place but running back to. The giants are quietly in the market for a solid Rb to and what makes an Rb to unique in this offense is that when sacred Barkley comes off the field to take a breath. You wanna have a guy that can really continue to carry on the offense impose a log of same threats and one guy to keep an eye on is is Mike Weber out of Ohio State who has great speed bilk sorta like saquon Barkley, you know, you probably have to get him maybe around four around three depend on when running backs go. But if you're looking for date three guy probably would keep an eye on Bryce love out of Stanford. You know, he was a Heisman finalist two years ago had an ACO injury in December. So you probably can get him in three and that'll be a guy gets slowly bring back from injuring. And when you get him at one hundred percent he run in between tackles because did it at Stamford. He catches the football while back those three. Threaten the passing game and gives you a premier option behind you're already premier option and saquon Barkley. Interesting point that that the giants could could be in the market for a running back that you know, to to go behind Barkley, and we know that Pat Shurmur likes guys who are versatile who can catch the ball as well as as as run with the ball. I mean, it makes sense to me in a way to go and get you know, a late round big guy. Like, I think it's Quadri Ellison fr from Pitt but I don't see that as a shirt type running back. He he likes guys that can catch the football. Right. And if you're looking for a bigger back that can catch the ball on days three keep an eye on keeping I bore this player. A wrote about him in January. I was at the college gridiron showcase. It will be a hundred and forty scouts their five giant scouts where there in attendance was the first week of January in a forward. So as the wildfire week when the Cowboys played the Seahawks. Exhibitor ner out of tarleton state. You know, D to Texas program great conference, by the way, long star conference. He's built a lot like Ricky Williams, right. He's five ten two hundred and thirty three pounds and is a downfield threat in the passing game. So he's phenomenal as a running back. So almost two thousand yards twenty something touchdowns rushing. A healthy six something yards a carry. So he's a very productive back in a very tough division to conference. But he also catch the ball extremely well. And that's that's an to keep an eye on. He just had his pro day. So people are never with his numbers wanna say ran low four fives of through the the bench press some ridiculous amount of time. But he's a fluid athlete. Good runner. But berry receiver that you can get on three from a small school of big guy that that can also provide that verse still dead at we know that a guy like Shurmur loves, you know, Emory. This is why I love talking to you. Because you you attend all of these things, and you've been to all of these games that that basically nobody's ever heard of. I don't know. I mean, I don't know how you do it. I do to work so people don't have to. Well, we liked that. Because I don't like doing the work. I'll just I'll just get you on the show. And and and let you tell us about all the work you've done. Well, that's that's why you stay ahead of the curve. So when you when you get to giants camp and people see you interviewing the kid out of the phone cookman into will Davis. Like, what are you talk? Did you will Davis war? And you'd only one that knows that he's going to beat the team. This is why it oh, you do the work. So you know, what to expect inspect what you expect? And that's what we bring here football game plan. All right. Why don't you before we let you go? Why don't you? You know, tell people, you know, a little bit about the different platforms where they can find your work. Just in case, they aren't familiar. Well, they could follow me on Twitter at of ball game plan. Follow my work at football game plan dot com. Youtube channel at YouTube dot com. Football game plan. I do some writing for the athletes also do some writing for flow football. You can also see me on CBS sports eight q doing some some sports line stuff as well. So I'm a little bit of, you know, a little bit everywhere, you know, kind of all over the place, but. It's all saying content. It's all the same type of information that you can get in one more run back. I want wanna give out there just to while. I haven't fresh in my head and who's been ripping up the producer talk about big backs Lee, high five ten to thirty Dom brag alone over forty three hundred yards in his career at Lee high four four speed legitimately consistently. He did it at temple pro day. He did it at Nova pro day. I know he's at giants of local or maybe as eagles local day, so dom- brag alone is another one that the giants probably can get as an undrafted guy or maybe in the sixth or seventh round that has a ton of upside that provide that Bank inside for bigger body with with explosive speed. Alright emory. We really appreciate your your time. And your insight through a whole bunch of names out there that I'm sure most of our audience wasn't familiar with. And and that's great as we as we lead up to to the draft. So thank you very much, and we will talk to you again soon. Preach it. All right. Take care. That's our show for today. Giants fans we think Emory hunt of football game plan for dropping by for his impassioned defense of Dwayne Haskins. And for dropping some other draft related knowledge on us. Also, we've thank you for listening. 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Hour 1: Witten Returns, NYG Nepotism

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Hour 1: Witten Returns, NYG Nepotism

"This is the Stephen a Smith Joe podcast. Oh. No, no care Pierre. Putting no, no. Oh my goodness. Notice cannot be happening to me. This cannot be happening. Welcome to the Stephen Smith show. Ladies, gentlemen, come in that you love to do every weekday over the Airways VS Piane radio. ESPN news. Steven's shows being brought to you by my computer, career dot E, D U training for a better life. Top straight talk. Brought to you by straight talk wireless. Best phones. Best networks, no contracts. This cannot be happening. As much as I've come to know, Jerry Jones, and I like him. As much of a pleasant. It was for me to meet Stephen Jones during Super Bowl week. As much as I generally liked them as people. And I like some of the players will be damned if oh going to root for happiness, but a Dallas cowboy fans. Has just come down that Jason wherein who played for the Dallas Cowboys. All of these years from two thousand and three to two thousand seventeen who retired to become a broadcast on Monday night football for ESPN that same Jason win. Has decided to come out of retirement. And returned to Dallas Cowboys. This cannot be happening. This cannot be happening. Jason William he was on this show every week. Incredibly nice guy. Damn good analyst. Jason weight and being both for Monday night football. I mean, this is way below belong back on that Dallas Cowboys too. I don't need him helping them. They actually got a tight end. Again. This cannot be happening. I cannot believe that gay believe this. Oh, I wanna cry. The Dallas Cowboys actually going to have an additional weapon to go. With Zeki, Elliot. We're Prescott would Amari Kupa. Low, dammit. Oh. Oh. This is not good move for Dallas cowboy fan hated like me. It really really isn't. Because Jason Witten that same man. Would eleven hundred fifty two receptors for his career twelve thousand four hundred and forty eight yards for his career. Is only going to add to it. He's definitely going to all of fame. Episode reason no matter how slowly looked looked like a damn snail with arthritis snails. Don't get off the writers somehow, someway was always open Chatto chose thicker loves to talk. You sit up there and say what's up? Chad always open. I'm still open. No, that's the way. He's the one that somehow, someway, always open. And now he's coming out of retirement to go back on the field for the Dallas Cowboys. Oh, my law. This is not news. I wanted to hear. Because I think this exponentially elevates the Dallas Cowboys chances to win because that defense is big top. I Jason Witten departed from ESPN and Monday night football. Because he says that the Dallas Cowboys, I don't wanna choke on myself. I don't want anybody to faint when they hear these words come out of my mouth. But the Dallas Cowboys if that Prescott. Mari Kupa and Jason we can get some kind of a passing game going. I got news y'all the Dallas Cowboys all legitimate top four Super Bowl contenders. John. I can't deny it. I can't deny it. That damn Jerry is demon Jones. How did they pull this off? I think Jason with the come out of retirement. How did they convincing to do this? I'm sick. They actually invited me down. So they can treat me to a beer. My actually show up get a drain Jasey might actually get a drink with him. I can't believe that pulled this off. I just can't believe it. Nevertheless, they have. And as a result. The Dallas Cowboys. I'm here to tell you right now. Going to be a top four. Top four. Contender for the Super Bowl next year. Then again, there is a civil lining in all of this. They Kinross the occasion only the Pullman at the most opportune time, they could tease the Dallas cowboy fans only the make them miserable. When they also I mean, there is a civil on it. Dallas cowboy v there is a shot that you could end up more miserable than ever. That is possible. We'll move on it at eight say ESPN, it's inundate seven to nine three seven seven six. What do y'all think Jason Witten tur- his his return turns the Dallas Cowboys into for next season? Yes, I will allow your phone calls from the nauseating disgusting fan base. The most nauseating disgusting fan base in history in American history. I will allow you I will allow you to call into this show and stick out your chest. And annoy the living hell out of me. Like only y'all can I will allow it because they went into return. I think means that much to this football tea. Let me move on to a different subject a more pertinent subject. And it involves the New York Giants. And here's why. Two things have happened. Two things have happened. That puts the New York that's actually three things. John three things put the New York Giants at the forefront of our psyche of our football psyche right now number one column Ori Oklahoma state Heisman Trophy winner showed up at the NFL scouting combine measured in at five feet ten and one eight inches. Now, you know, what they say, you gotta be at least ten inches if you ain't at least ten inches. They lose an abundance of faith in the National Football League. We've all heard this before but column or no longer has that excuse they don't have that excuse rather to hold it gets column. Ary he's measured at five feet. Ten one eight inches. He weighed in a two hundred seven p ideally that usually like their quarterback measuring it at two fifteen or above column is at two oh seven. Okay. So he's got some pounds to put on. But that's not really the big deal. Here's the biggest deal his hand size. Which is the big deal. Not just grasping the football throwing the football. But also holding onto it when you're running you get hit or you're standing in the pocket, and you get hit the bigger your hands the easier. It is you to hold onto the football column. Murray's hands measured at five nine. I'm sorry nine and a half not in half inches. So ladies and gentlemen, in other words, considering all the measurable 's. He's in good standing and as a result. Now, we get to lean on his talents. We've seen a guy that primarily to pocket we see a guy that can run with the football. The likes of which we haven't seen since Michael Vick. Although Michael Vick was a more violent and different runner. The bottom line is we haven't seen anybody that can run the football like column ary outside of Michael Vick. Shawn Watson and there. I guess is debatable. I don't think. So. And as a result. The question is should column. Ary beat a number one overall pick any NFL draft. My answer's yes. What does that mean rush? Josh rosen. The quarterback drafted out of the UCLA. That's what Arizona right now. What do you do with him? You're get rid of him. That's what the hell you do who should be looking at him. Should it be the New York Giants? Who can grab him and then go out there and draft and ofensive linemen. I'll I'll what the Indianapolis Colts did. Either in draft anybody draft put Nelson, but they got Andrew look back healthy what I'm saying? You was this. If you draft an offensive lineman and bringing Josh Rosen as the Arab Parenti lamenting that might be good. But there are others out. There say Dan that draft Wayne Haskins out of Ohio State with the number six overall pick and go from there. That's what their belief is. Get half is that Ohio State. Not are made a mistake. Talking about more running quarterback. He wasn't to fifty touchdown passes to over four thousand yards. He flings the football. I get all of that. I watch them against Maryland running the ball fifteen times. I watched them scramble out of the pocket against Michigan. And just was alluding to this lucidity. But giving the impression that he was more thrower are running than throw was a mistake on my part. I own it that stat. Haskins is no joke. As people think the giants take him as era parent. So if you the New York Giants, you got a dilemma do trae for quarterback, Josh Allen. Or do you draft a quarterback like Haskins? Here's my problem. My problem has nothing to do with either that our problem is Pat Shurmur who never should have been the head coach for the New York Giants based on his resume that is to begin with. Speaks glowingly about ally manning because of his professionalism. So in other words, he's not a headache to you. He doesn't force you to take any extra straight Tylenol and the Advil any Motrin ibuprofen or anything like that. So because of that, you good never mind. The fact that he can't move that. He's immobile that is pretty much done. It can't make the requisite throws on a continuous basis. Or that you got a ninety five million dollars even Odell Beckham junior universally recognized as a top three talented the position in the entire NFL with the Andre Hopkins Antonio Brown with the Julio Jones with a t y Hilton and others would've auntie Adams and others with the Mike, Mike, Evans and others. He still recognized as a top three talent at the wide receiver position. And you got haute L Beckham junior. You just go sit up there and act like you got all the time in the world. To be tolerant and patient with ally. Manny, you see this is why the New York Giants on trouble. And they were I heard they've Gettleman talk about how the GM for the giants sit up Dan talk about how were you know, what ally Mannix gotten a bad rap? Alah manning is not nearly as bad as people are trying to make them out to be. We we love you lot, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, excuse me. Excuse me. What the hell have you been watching? You haven't watched the under throws. You haven't watched the overthrows. The man is thirty eight years of age. He's thirty eight. There's no knocker gets ally. Manning, I love Eli manning. He's a two-time Super Bowl champion he delivered to championships to to New York City. He's over fifty five thousand yards in his career. He's nineteen fifty six thousand. I got it. But look at alarm manning. Over the past six years QBR thirty nine sixty two sixty forty nine forty five fifty one. Do your giants have missed the playoffs. How many times I mean? What are we talking about here? What the hell is talking about? The New York Giants Mr. player six thousand last they used. I'm talk. I'm sorry. Six times in the last seven years. Hey times in the last ten years. I mean, what the hell is going on? What are you talking about? Why are you acting like there's no need for change? Because manic such a nice guy because he's not a headache. Because such a professional who raped who said anything about that. We appreciate Eli manning. We appreciate his professionalism. We appreciate the two Super Bowl rings. We appreciate him showing up on a road in Green Bay and getting into a Super Bowl San Francisco and getting you to the next round we see all of this allies had some big wins in this career. No question. No doubt. That's why a champion, and that's why we respect, and that's why he'll be revered in New York for many many years to come. But the reality is he's not what it used to be me while saquon Barkley and Dell Beckham junior in a sports violence football being asked to wait. Dole Russ anything give this time. Just because you like him that's responsible. That's not fair to New York. Giants fans everywhere. It's not fair Odell Beckham junior. It's not fair to say Barkley. What have you done for me lately? That's what this is about. A reality is is that is not the same play it anymore. So when you look at it from that perspective, there is simply absolutely positively. No, excuse forget them and ensure and Shurmur to have this attitude like everything's all right? It's not. Okay. It's not all right. Julia is not getting any younger saquon Barkley just got into the league. But this is a violent physical sport. You don't take years for granted if manning to do right now, he ain't to do. See too much nepotism going on. It's too much buddy. Buddy stuff folks getting hired because you got a good relationship. You can sit out have drinks together. You like one another you talk that should not be the criteria for hiring a head coach in the National Football League. Whatever deadly is to get them in. It is. Does not be the criteria for keeping your quarterback in the league for Mr. Gettleman. Apparently it is. Some gotta give ladies and gentlemen. Something's gotta give. And I'm afraid that when you look at the New York Giants right now, the twenty nine thousand nine hundred years already doomed. They basically told you. Excuse me. The New York Giants basically told you yesterday will get them in turmoil at the NFL scouting combine. They basically told you yesterday. Who are you gonna believe us? Your your your line is. They basically said to you yesterday. You don't you didn't see what you what you saw the lamenting he wasn't protected by line, blah, blah, blah. He's never been protected by that. But suddenly you bring that up. What you basically? So yesterday was them spit in the face of giants fans and tell them it was raining. That's what they did. Because they don't wanna try. And I guess they can't compel him sit on a bench. Remember this? Do the letter was going Grushin a practice because he knew that he was going to be starting. I mean practice with the first unit because he was expecting to start that week. So the fact that that was the case. Showed you what the New York Giants thought about manning? But suddenly you want and sell us on this notion that he is the future. Is the were. He is the few Jew. He is the one to make brighter day so less star giving. Are you kidding me? There's a choice you're making them. John's lava stink what'd you do about? It. Because he lamenting eagles. Learn how to run he's not gonna certainly be different than a stationary target. That's not what's going to happen when it comes to. That's not going down like that is not happening like that. Somebody better get you get your act together. Running out innovate say he has been inundate seven to nine three seven seven six you gonna make breath junior and Tonio Brown or you y'all. Keep this stuff up New York Giants keep this keep us up. He won't go. Antonio brown. Y'all. Tired of listening to this nonsense? Allow manage here by else's there. Kevin covert general manager for the Steelers big been Rob's burgers. Here. Got fifty two kids that need to follow him, really. That's the problem. It eight say. Two three seven percents. One other matter I want to get into before getting to your calls that the Lakers wanna game last night the New Orleans pelicans situation with Antonio Brown. I'm sorry with Anthony Davis sitting down with mortar four minutes left in the third quarter. And then after that sitting down for the rest of the game and never come back for the fourth quarter. In a close tight for game. Is reprehensible the league has to do something about it. It's embarrassing. Anthony Davis wants to play should be allowed to play. He should be sat down on the fourth quarter. And tell me it doesn't draft drastically shift to the competitive balance any day was had twenty two points to twenty one minutes. Twenty eight rebounds. Twenty one minutes brother special. But that's what y'all wanna do. This guy. Got sit down sit down in the fourth quarter of games because you're going to trade him, and you don't wanna get hurt or something like that. It's ridiculous. It really really is. And it's embarrassing. Pelican should be ashamed of themselves. The one that you're laughing stock organization as we speak force at Alvin gentry and the Davis to live with these conditions. This is reprehensible. Neil say that wasn't a problem with the Los Angeles Lakers last night, LeBron show with thirty three including beautiful fall away three near the end of the game with Patrick Mahomes attendance watching and marveling at him. Rondo Rajon Rondo showed up in a big way at thirteen. Insist look act of all night long. Kouzmin Ingram showed up. So things could be getting very in the Lakers Lakers have more walkie this Friday, then they got the clippers Monday, they got the nuggets Wednesday. They got the Boston Celtics week from Saturday. Look the Lakers season could be over come next out of it. Is going to be really really interesting to see what happens. 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They really brought they number to receive 'cause to win is always number two receiver, boys. If they don't make the Super Bowl. This would be like you said earlier like once again, depending where they just stays space somewhere to lose. And it's like what's this use? Now like who you point. Now, what I love the fact that you said that that'd be my narrative for the next year Super Bowl a bust. The bust Super Bowl bust. Right. Wind should help you that much that works for me. I like it. I like it down to appreciate the call, man. Adam you'll obvious even talk to me. Hey, Steven cavalry fan as much as I hate to admit this. I'm gonna have to disagree with you and give you hope I don't think Whitten's gonna help the offense much at all he declined over the last couple years, you know, much rather just resigned, Kobi's Lee and have Colby B safety net. But I. I'm not sure about that. You won't tell you. Why number one they were running the ball of actively with Zeki Elliott. And as a result, they relied on him more than they would needed to rely on Whitten another. There's number one number two. He didn't have a number one receive. It does Brian had had had diminished somewhat Terrance Williams Kobi's Lee weren't necessarily the answer in having Amari Cooper opened things up for him that could free him up. Number. Three Prescott wasn't the most accurate throw in the world is second season there. So I think the combination of a couple of things sort of derailed or compromise Jason Witten ways that I don't think will be the case this year. Upper thirties. I would much rather see them. You know, you saw actually improvement from the titans and the second half of the year. I think like I said, I think Koby he's going to get you more separation. He can be that safety net. Let those two young tight ends kind of develop. I mean, I don't know. Maybe this is opening the door for him to be a coach the Cowboys coming up, but I don't like already getting worse. He's older. Our as it is. He's had a year away from the game. I gotta admit to you. I think you'd be an entirely too critical and not appreciative enough of the greatness Ajay's win. I can't believe I'm saying coming to defense. But I try me I truly mean it. I mean, this is this is a hall of fame tight end. And when you look at what he brings to the table somehow reliable hands in exceptional route running obviously can block out of the tight end spot, which is going further protecting the cyst not just that Prescott. But Zeki Elliott there's a lot more pluses and minuses that comes along with Jason witness return to the Dallas Cowboys. I think it's. Trouble for everybody in the NFC eased. I can tell you that much. And I think it's spells trouble for everybody in the NFC period. So I view it that way I really don't. I think we're looking at the case in from five six years ago. One or two years ago. I'm not looking at numbers. I'm looking at numbers because I know the numbers weren't there. I'm talking about watching him run routes looking at looking at that Prescott some of his troubles during the football looking at the fact that you had people suffocating with double coverage from times because they didn't have to worry about number one wide receiver because Brian couldn't get opened away to the us too. I think all of those things of it. Hey, I hope you're right. You're right. That the Cowboys are going to be successful. That would make my day. But yeah, we'll see. We'll see. We'll see. We'll see. And I'll tell you what it's gonna be real interested. I think it compels the giants to do something you gonna stick with how come the giants on trying to train for Josh Rosen. How come the giants are looking at Nick foles who's a Super Bowl champion the Super Bowl MVP, and nobody wears been excelling within the same divisions in New York Giants not at the eagles have decided to just just be beautiful the Nick foles. I mean, giving them something that you just don't see happening for too many others. You know, we're not gonna worry about compensation. We're not gonna worry about getting equitable compensation for Nick foles. We love him. We appreciate him. He such a beautiful human being a nice guy since he wants out because he wants to quarterback own team. We believe he's earned that. Right. And he deserves so we're just going to let them go. We're not going to franchise tag him. We're not going to assure us. Selves by positioning ourselves for equitable compensation. Nope. We're going to do is. We're going to sit there, and we're going to make sure we let everyone know you can have Nick foles don't worry about us. I mean, I mean, I it's beautiful to be Nick foles. I would say something else. But I'm not gonna go there today, but it's beautiful to be Nick foles. But if you the New York Giants while you're not looking into that assuming they're not, of course. I'm just wondering Josh roses, jump Nick foles older, but not too old. And he's a veteran with experience in the Super Bowl championship on his resume. Any lamenting is not what it used to be the problem as as me. Chris Ulli, Stephen it was. What's going on rename love your show? Man. Thanks. I just got a couple of disagree with. I mean, I agree with something Jason went and things. He seventy two years old. I'm really not worried about older titan to be that much of an impact you talking like they signed Travis Kelsey, let me stop any. Let me stop you right there. Let me stop you deal. K? Let me ask you a simple question. Okay. An answer me this. Honestly, a right. When you look at Jason win. Okay. How many times in his career? Did you watch this mayor run routes and say to yourself how the hell he get the ball grow. As he opened look at how slow he looks. And some some way he's always open. He's getting you critical first downs. He's helping you convert critical third down situations. How many times in your career? Did you find yourself tempted to throw something at your TV or unless you're a cowboy fans jump up in shock and adulation because this guy somehow some way kept killing you how many times a lot of time. I'm a giant fit and a lot of times having by just think that time, you know, after taking a Europe that Thomas pets, but I really wanted to get to the giant. Conversation that you're making one hundred percent agree with you this nepotism crap with Eli manning and the fans of making Lau voices about him needing to play. And what we own listen time is up it's over, and I don't want foles. I don't want Rosen and Rosen. They wanted them. If they want 'em less you talk. I'm not gonna trait for Rosen. I'm not gonna give up assets for Rosen. Why not teddy Bridgewater? He's cheap. He played onto Shurmur. We can get him. And then we could still keep drastic and the money is right. And the kid's young twenty six say young man's game. I like teddy Bridgewater. Let's go, man. I like this election. I like I said not only that first of all he was the started quarterback first couple of years in the NFL. He was relatively pedestrian, but he didn't make mistakes, which is a big deal with them. Not to mention the fact that he could throw the football. And over the last year he's had the opportunity to learn the drew Brees. I like it wouldn't bother me. Let's see if it happens Jonathan you'll live Stephen what's up. Even a we're talking about Jason Witten here. I'm gonna borrow your own words where you said he's a snail with arthritis in his knees when when snails don't even have right, right? And it's like, okay. He's always open. I get what you're saying. But what happens to the old men in the league that don't have the speed? That's required. I'm regurgitate the same thing. I just said to the previous caller how many times have you looked at Jason. What are you a Cowboys fan? Are you a Cowboys fencer, sir? Okay. How many times have you looked at Jason Witten? And one of the throw your throw something that your TV because Tommy Tommy again is slow as his behind was he he would always be open and always convert and some third down or getting some key reception. How many times your career have you seen that having with Jason? You're right. My friend. By the way. When have we ever accused him of having speed, tell me once no matter what I mean? That was cool. He's always he's always look slow. He's always looked slow and he's always open and he's always catching passes when you need them to. Yeah. You're right. That's one of come back and do it. But let's listen he stayed away from the game just for year. He's not going to a different situation. He's going to the same system. He departed from same quarterback saying running back pretty much same off. It's the only thing that's changed that he's got a number one receiver to lead on Amari Cooper to take some pressure off of him, even Kobe's my still be there for crying out loud. And I don't think that's happened. But I'm just saying anything's possible. My point to you is Jerry Jones. You got Jason Garrett Scott letting any anymore kids needed to be going. So my point to you is this the only thing that's different is that he avoided getting hit for year. That's it. That's it. What else is there? It doesn't notice no way on earth. They would a president to come back and Jerry Jones damn slick salesmen. That is because Jerry Jones could sell anything. I I'm shame that minute. I love the guy just love him. And it was a pleasant mean Steven Jones. I mean almost went over I'm going over to the dark side. 'cause I liked Stephen Jones when I met him. I really did. I really I mean, and I love me some Jerry, I can't believe I'm saying, but I really liked Joe. I really do is damn cockroaches known as cowboy fits a nuclear bunker drop, and somehow, someway, they come out on a rubble. Don't them cowboy fans make me sick. I can't stand him. And they're gonna be there. I mean, you tell me what's the downside to taste in return. Have a meter in the locker room. To see you, see your peeling, out the positives. Now, that's what you're doing. You're out the positives. Yeah. There's there's some positive. Let me ask you and other questions unrelated Cuyler Murray. What did I hear his hand size is bigger than Baker Mayfield? Yes, it is. Yes, it is not an nine and a half is big and Baker Mayfield. He's two hundred seven pounds and he's five foot ten and one eight inches you'd think about that. What do you think about it? The inside. Once I heard the hand size because if you don't have big hands, you you more likely to fumble the football and all of that once not sorta big hand size knowing that he's a pocket passer that do over four thousand yards forty three hundred yards. They do for forty two touchdowns seven sectors that they completed sixty nine percent of his passes that he was relatively considered a pocket passer. Even though he has speeding wheels on the likes of which we may not have seen since Michael Vick. My attitude is he's clearly the number one overall pick in the draft. Now, you gotta get rid of Josh Rosen sent him somewhere else. And you gotta draft column Murray with the number one overall pick. If you're the Arizona Cardinals is that simple to me going to happen. I thought they were leaning Derek Carr. The cardinals. Yeah. No. Why would you? Why would you do that? Why would you? Why would you do that you go column if you could go Lamari does would you do what the hell is Derek Carr done that makes other than his one good year? Yeah. One good year. We was every pecan and went down the second last game of the season. And I like their called despite little spats here. And there he seems like a really good guy. I'm not messing with him. And I'm not saying he's the scroll by any stretch of imagination. But he's got a lot to proof. And if I'm if I'm I'm thinking about column Arabia box office, and I'm going for that. Gotta run which had to call it an eight say, ESPN editing. Seven to ninety seven six mortar, Stephen Smith show before Kamilo Alvarez Oscar de LA Hoya. And then you Jacob come on to start off our number two in a minute. If you missed my opening statement, go check it out on demand and Stephen Smith podcast brought to you by capital. One capital. 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Hour 1: Big Bad Bills

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Hour 1: Big Bad Bills

"Stugatz here when you talk to a dell technologies advisor. They are focused on you. Ready to give advice on everything from laptops to the cloud and offer tailored solutions powered by intel pro platform to to keep your small business ready for what's next. Call a technology advisor today. At eight seven seven dell. That's eight seven seven as dow. This is dan lebatardshow on. Espn radio into the dan le batard show on espn radio. The espn app and espn. Plus we are presented by progressive insurance and all of our guests appear on the shell pennzoil performance line with my very good friend taylor wellman. I'm melissa lane taylor. It's been a while since we've shared the radio waves together. It's great to see again my friend so you already started the show lying. It's not really that good to see. I cannot lie. I'm not totally sure about that. How did you miss me. i did. I did counting down okay. Maybe i'm exaggerating a little bit saying he's until we can get back on the radio together but no i. We spent a lot of shows together over the summer. And then all the sudden they just tore us apart. Now we're back baby and we're back. Unlike the new england patriots. It was bad last night was bad. Snot your dad's new england patriots. That's for sure If you ask my dad in new york jets fan. He's thrilled about that because he's sick and tired of seeing the patriots not only run all over the afc All over the nfl as well so he has been thrilled. The buffalo bills looking dominant ever getting a huge win over the new england patriots last night. Thirty eight to nine was the final on monday night. Football and before we get into the patriots. Because i feel like that's where a lot of the conversation will shift in this one taylor as well what happened to the patriots. What's the future of the patriots. The patriots done. We can give credit to the buffalo bills because how dominant do they look right now. They feel like the team that if you ask me poses the biggest threat to kansas city right now what do you think yeah. I think that's the general consensus around the nfl in analyst around the league especially here at this network when you see how buffalo and their attack can get after multiple different defenses in this league. I think it is a legitimate threat to the kansas city chiefs. In the afc when you look at the swagger they're playing with you heard our colleague steve levy louis riddick. Brian greasy. Talk about when you're having fun. You play at a higher level. The buffalo bills were having fun last night. They were joining the first time sweeping the patriots. In a long long time. It might be longer than you've been on this earth elissa and trying to date yourself but neither here nor there but when you really look at the way. This teams played the way digs. His brought a real balanced to this attack. Their offense is firing on all cylinders. I don't think it's that far of a stretch to say. They may be the better team heading into the playoffs. We're gonna talk about the chiefs later on in the show but when you look at this buffalo bills team the way they're playing. I don't think it's that far of a stretch to say. Yeah they may be the best team in the afc hadn't into players you mentioned stefan digs. I mean the allen to digs connection is just like sick nasty. I could watch it every single weekend. And we do. He had nine receptions for one hundred forty five yards and three touchdowns last night. I mean if that's not one of the most electric connections in the nfl. I'm not sure what is one of the things that i have really enjoyed as the buffalo bills have had such a great twenty twenty is a lot of features on bills mafia. I don't know if you saw some of the Stories going into monday night. Football last night about just bills fans being like you know what if people wanna talk smack about us. We're going to back this up by donating to their charity of choice. I think it was nbc. Sports chicago who had tweeted something Making fun of bills fans and they were like okay. Yeah we're gonna show you and they donated to a chicago charity like come on. We'll remember what they did. Wasn't it with. Andy dalton if i'm not mistaken to the yet right they that's kind of how the bills mafia done listen. This is a team that i'm affiliated with because i've lost four. Mls cups and i was called a jim kelly of american soccer. And i say that because you listen to just a heartache. This team has been through. And that's why when you listen to josh allen after the game talking about what it means to sweep the patriots you of sit there and say this is a big moment for the buffalo bills on sound like a broken record budgets. It's number twelve game left and you know all that school the records this and that but you know plan to get three and give ourselves a change in the playoffs me much if we can get it done and we got our mindset bigger things and first things first week. Seventeen dollars a month. I mean that's the first time bill bell checks new england patriots. Eliza have been swept since nineteen ninety nine by the same team like that. I mean that tells you the dominance of what bill belichick and the patriots said. I understand the meema thrown the phone and all of us kind of secretly enjoyed it a little bit because well a lot of in boston can't seek secretly gotta talk about it because you know bills on the mount rushmore as he should be. I'm not taking away from that. But when you really look at what the buffalo bills have done. It's pretty monumental. i love it. The josh allen train has been one that i think is easy to jump on. I can understand if you're in the new england area. You probably do have to secretly enjoy the bill belichick phone throwing video. Which i actually didn't see till this morning and when i saw it on my twitter feed. I was like bill. Just you know treating that phone like all of us want to tweet. Treat two thousand twenty and he's just shocking it to the side and he is roy lee done with it. But i mean so much credit to josh allen right. I mean three hundred twenty yards four touchdowns last night. He's passed for throwing for over forty three hundred yards on the season. So far thirty four touchdowns to nine interceptions. I mean what they're doing is just not only fun to watch. It's working to and we mentioned as far as them. Being you know the big threat to the kansas city chiefs. who have gone into almost every season. It feels like since. Patrick mahomes being the favourite not only on that side but for the super bowl. If feels like the bills. Are there right now. We just put a poll up on. Espn radio's twitter. Page asking are the bills the biggest threat to the chiefs in the afc right now go vote. Vote in the poll. If you don't think it's the bills let us know who you think. It is but a lot of this is obviously circled around. Josh allen is important as well to remember that very serious look chase beacon. The first time rowling they play. He didn't start this way It was definitely a development. And i think sean mcdermott comments. On josh allens development as a quarterback are definitely interesting to listen to. He continues to take steps and his development which is awesome. I mentioned before. Chris as you heard you know. He's he's hungry to to grow. And when when when your top layer your top players embrace that growth mindset lead by example. I think it goes a long way in our locker room. Do you have josh allen on your fantasy team. Do you play fantasy football. I do play fantasy football and the fact that you asked me. That question is completely rony. I find like what what are you trying to like. Put me down of who who doesn't play fantasy saying. This is the first year that i didn't play fantasy football. And i'm putting myself outing myself. Maybe i should be fired for this. But this is the first tiktok like posting everything in everything about cosco. That's your problem. Don't out me on. Tiktok josh allens stud. He's played himself into the mvp consideration. He's not gonna win it. We all know. Aaron rodgers and homes are there. But what josh allen has really really done this year. A lot of that falls on that relationship with steph on digs and we've seen that especially in week sixteen against the patriots all right. We've given the bills a lot of credit. And they deserve it but coming up next here on the dan le batard show. We're going to get into the patriots side of things and what the future looks like in new england. One analyst thinks the former patriot would be a good answer at quarterback. That's coming up next you're listening to. Espn radio the espn app. And espn plus do own or rent your home. Sure you and. I bet it can be hard work you know. It's easy bundling policies with geico. Geico makes it easy to bundle your homeowner's or renter's insurance along with your auto policy. It's a good thing too because you already have so much to do around your home. Go to geico dot com. Get a quote and see how much you could save. Its gyco easy visit. Geico dot com. Today that's geico dot com. Hey it's greening and from our family at espn radio to yours. Wishing you a very safe healthy and happy holiday season. Want to make sure that you know. Starting tuesday january fifth. We are moving will be coming your way every morning starting ten. Am eastern time right here on espn radio not gonna start talking till we hit that. It's lies like a sin. Let it breathe. Let it breathe unlike. What cam newton did in twenty twenty by them. Oh gosh seventeen. Minutes into the show and taylor twelve out here. Throwing flames jalousie. Dan le batard show on. Espn radio the espn app and espn. Plus we are presented by progressive insurance with twelve. I'm elissa laying. it's time for straight talk. Brought to you by straight talk wireless taylor. What time do you get up in the morning. Oh this is unreal. You already fell where we're going. I first off. I get up at say. Seven seven fifteen zero. And i mean zero point zero chance when i was playing and when i'm not playing that i am up ready to go out of the house in ten minutes. What we're talking about in case you missed it last night. Are monday night. Football crew showed a graphic of new england patriots quarterback cam newton's morning routine. He apparently wakes up at four twenty. Am leaves the house at four thirty am and has his first sip of coffee at eight. Am now the shock factor of waking up at four twenty in the morning wore off for me probably after like five minutes. Because i'm not a morning person in waking up at four twenty. I think he's that he went to bed at like eleven or eleven. Thirty not very much sleep which goes to the crux of the but carry on. Finish your point. You have to get your sleep kids but to your point. The crazier part is leaving within ten minutes of waking up. I mean like you gotta read the half hours. Hold on hold on hold on. I'm lisa three and a half hours. Later is first sip of coffee now. Stand a little bit more. Because sometimes if i'm waking up that like i don't want to eat that much that early in the morning or drink anything like your body's a little off but i guess if you're used to that then maybe that's not the case. Listen it's three. And a half hours. Though i get if you're like. Oh yeah i cup of coffee at six thirty seven. Sure fine no problem now. The one thing. The graphics didn't say is whose house he was leaving right so you you know what i'm saying like you're looking at it saying okay. Well maybe get up. Get out of here. Whatever but all kidding aside listen to the first thing i looked at on that is wait. He's getting up at four thirty times going to bed. Eleven thirty hold on here. This may be mentioned. Eight o'clock this may be the issue here. That's played at the highest level. Anyone quite frankly that is doing anything at a high level in needs to be up in atom and ready to go will tell you. Sleep is the most important part now. I'm not talking nine hours of sleep. Now lebron james will tell you nine hours. Asleep has done him well. Tom brady will tell you. Nine hours asleep has done the well. Every great athlete. I've ever heard speak about sleep minus tiger woods and by the way how his body end up. You follow where i'm going here. I'm thoroughly confused. And how that was the graphic now. I get why he told that story. I get why monday night. Football and the production crew told that story. Because it's showing your commitment showing what you're doing but every single athlete that i know in my cellphone literally all started texting me. I started texting back listening. He's getting five hours of sleep. This is the problem. He's looked lethargic. He's looked slow to react and a lot of that. Eliza is after covid nineteen Which then begs the question. You gotta take care of your body. I and he's put so much money into that body because that is what what his job is. I get all of that but my word. Your brain can't react five hours of sleep on that kind of schedule trying to learn a new system trying to play at a high level. I looked at that. Elicit no all kidding. Aside and said that that's the issue that that is a real issue for him. It's brutal you know from your time playing soccer that the amount of physical gist tests. You put your body through on a daily basis as a professional athlete on top of that only getting a couple hours of sleep every night. It seems crazy and to your point you get it like cam even said after the game that it was another point of frustration for him. He said that's been my schedule for ninety percent of the time i've been here so you can understand the frustration. I do have when. I don't have the outcome because i'm sacrificing so much. You're talking to a person who hasn't seen his kids in three months and and my heart is sad hearing him say that because cam is obviously and he's always been a work course. I mean. you saw the videos that he was posting on instagram during free agency. Where he was letting you know he was in the gym and he was doing everything he possibly could to make sure that he was ready when he got his opportunity. But gosh i feel like that's one of the first things you learn in health class growing up is like you have to have enough sleep and i hope someone's going to tell cam newton sleep in one of these days like maybe till five or something like that. Let's try to hit a six seven hour threshold Gosh that sort of leads us into our next topic though is how long cam going to be in new england. Has he done enough this year to prove that he should get another season under bill belichick. He was asked about this last night after the game. Contra you in this job interview this year. Nassar interesting Interesting commentary obviously cam was brought in on a one year deal. Hit a minimum based say what is going to say anything different to that bigger ice or and i have is bella. Checks answers to that question. The fact that bell check after the game says cam's not the problem. He's played fine. What what what are you watching. What are you watching because all of us in boston. Everyone outside of boston has watched a team. I'm not saying camps completely at fault here. It's not what i'm saying. But what i am saying. You can't sell me that cam's being good. You can't because i'll tell you right now. The patriots that are six and nine. If matt stafford was their quarterback. If andy dalton was their quarterback they would have won at least two more games in. We'd be sitting here talking about eight and seven patriots team at the minimum. And they'd still be in the conversation of making the playoffs which i said before. The season started listening. They weren't going to but my word this team with the eight or so doubts that they had six of 'em defensive players starters they still were in the thick of things. Cam was a good enough in so for bill belichick to try to pull the wool over our eyes here in boston. And everywhere else that. That's where that's where i'm lost. That's where you lose me with that and you can throw the phone all you want about a challenge in the third quarter in week. Sixteen but bill everyone else. That's a patriots. Fan is throwing their phones. Because they're looking at it saying really. You're trying to sell us. The cam newton was good was good enough a. I'm not buying it. It's such a double edged sword. When i think about this situation because we went into the year to your point knowing that this wasn't going to be the new england patriots that were used to right. I mean looking at just the roster looking at the opt-outs they had going into the season looking at the options. That cam newton has to throw to. They're not not plentiful so there's a big part of me that's like well. Gosh i'd i'd love to see cam get another chance with some help but at the same time everything you just said is true. I mean there were. Some mistakes made this season. That may be. If there's another quarterback at the helm of this offense don't happen maybe. The patriots aren't staring at not making the playoffs. For what feels like the first time in four ever. Mike tannenbaum are espn nfl front office. Insider had some insight on the dan lebatardshow yesterday on who might be a good get for the patriots next year. Yeah i liked taylor. I think he fits what bill likes to do. Which is your smart mobile quarterback cam newton and i thought it was a great signing campus. Just seem to be the same guy. Go after his injuries. I think jimmy g. and possibly drafting a quarterback in the first round. You know this year there could be words of half a dozen when you consider her lawrence and just the fields and get into the trae lances of the world. And zack wilson. So this may be the year that they have to invest. I and a quarterback and then maybe try to hold serve with jimmy g. for a year or two jimmy g. back to new england. How do we feel taylor. Twelve in it's already in the works absolutely because you look at the way cow shanahan in the forty niners listened to the possibility of tom. Brady come into the forty nine hundred. New jimmy g. was on his way out. This is what bill belichick once. I would be stunned if jimmy g. isn't in new england but then again it's twenty twenty the pandemic what happens where free agency. But i think g. will be the quarterback of the new england patriots in twenty twenty one. That segment brought to you by straight. Talk wireless no contract. No compromise speaking of teams with quarterback issues. Coming up next. We're going to dive into a team in need of a win sunday. Who just made a big decision at quarterback that's coming up next here on. Espn radio the espn app and espn plus. Hey it's and from our family at espn radio to yours. Wishing you were very safe healthy and happy holiday season. Make sure that you know that. Starting tuesday january fifth. We are moving will be coming your way every morning starting ten. Am eastern time right here on espn radio. Welcome back to the dan le batard on espn radio. The espn app and espn plus. Which taylor twelve. And i'm elissa lang a big stories coming out of week sixteen as we head into a very interesting week. Seventeen with a lot on the line but we gotta zone in on the washington football team. Of course they released their quarterback. Dwayne haskins a day after he was benched in their loss to the carolina. Panthers taylor they are in a win and in scenario in week seventeen and they just cut haskins. We're not sure. I don't believe at this point. If it's going to be alex. Smith or taylor heineke a guy that head coach ron rivera knows very well from his time in carolina. A lot to unpack here with this story but starting with haskins. What were your thoughts when you finally saw this kind of come to an end after the strip club into being benched on sunday was a whole saga here over the last week. What changed would change from a week ago that that was the first thing i thought of is. This obviously wasn't about the on the feel product eliza because if it was while we've seen this already in quite honestly. I think it's unfair to judge dwayne haskins on the on the field because of the chaos that has surrounded the washington football team in his first year and even this year to a certain extent right so it's not about the on the field. It's the distraction. It's the lack of leadership. It is obviously the whatever you wanna call his decision of as he used the words accidentally walking into a strip club and having a party with seven women dressed dwayne haskins jerseys which. I don't know how that's an accident. Neither here nor there. But my point is alyssa. What changed so obviously. When they stripped him of the captain's armband and then they said you know what. Here's what we're gonna do. You're gonna start again like the performance and we sit sixteen convinced you that he's no longer fit to be for the washington football team. That's where i'm a little bit lost but on the other hand it's the right decision i mean. I haven't seen anything from dwayne haskins as a leader in quite frankly in a year where your coach is defeating cancer. And you've got a quarterback. Alex smith that is literally survived ten plus surgery. He's been close to death. He's been close to having his leg amputated and he's leading this football team. Not playing at a high level doesn't matter on the brink of a win in for the playoffs. That's where the wayne haskins stuff listen to. You can't be a mediocre headache in the national football league quite honestly in any league around the world and in this country so i my first reaction was what changed in a week and i guess they just said enough is enough but that's where the real question lies is. Why did it take you. Seven days later to see that performance against the carolina panthers to make this decision. Yeah i mean it's a business right if you don't perform first off you're already in hot water. You're on notice and then if you do. The things that dwayne haskins did last week as far as the strip club and everything you just said it doesn't make your case to stick around much better. He did tweet after he was released that he takes full responsibility for not meeting. The standards of nfl quarterback and will become a better man in player because of this experience When you think about dwayne haskins future. I feel like it should be no doubt that he gets picked up by somewhere. Becomes a backup quarterback in another franchise. A fresh start is something that i hope he will take advantage of. And obviously turn this into a learning process because you don't want to cast the guy out. He's a young guy. He's worked really hard to get to where he is. He made some very unfortunate mistakes though. What do you think that will be like as haskins tries to get picked up by another locker room and maybe one day tries to win over another locker room. I don't know about that eliza. I don't know about that because immediately when he came into a situation. We all know the washington football team. Coaching staff last year didn't want wayne haskins in. This was an ownership decision. But you already her questions about his leadership. And here's what the telltale sign is for me. In quite honestly i think. J p finley of nbc. Sports washington on spain fits said it. Best how many players are actually defending haskins too. Many i been guys liked wayne. But they know that last week's transgression with the coburn protocol. I know that a lot of guys across the league not just in washington but guys have been separated from their families for months. I know more than one player that that had a niece or nephew. During this time they weren't able to go see that baby because colin protocol. So i think more than one player was was pretty mad at him last week. I look at what happened to the ravens. And the titans and the broncos and any of that could have happened to washington where all the sudden. They're trying to win. The division title and five guys are out because the contact tracing whatever so. I think that has kind of been an underlying part of this. That in some ways ron rivera might have rushed making more players mad by keeping him the making players. Happy by releasing elissa. My whole point as it athlete is when something's unjust when something's done against the grain where players in the lock it. That is your support group. That is your defense lawyer. That is everything and not a single player. Unless i'm wrong. But i just googled it this morning and i did it yesterday on this exact same show in this topic. I haven't seen a lot of players. Defend him and defend him being unjustly released. I haven't seen any of that. That tells me more than any reporter any writer. Anyone else wants to tell me about haskins annalisa. That's gonna be the telltale sign of dwayne haskins and whether or not he ends up on another team you make a great point. I mean we live in the age of twenty twenty on social media where players are able to voice whatever their opinion is good or bad or standing up for people or to go after immediate member. Who maybe they disagree with or anything like that. In the comments in the tweets. Not seeing that is definitely a telltale sign. I did see. Rg three sent out a tweet saying that he was wishing him the best and that he should learn from this and bounce back all right we got more coming up next here on the dan le batard show. Let's talk urban meyer. What would it take to lure him to the nfl. You'll hear what a former buckeye said about that. Coming up next on the dan lebatardshow. You're listening to espn radio. The espn app and espn plus greening and from our family at espn radio to yours. Wishing you a very safe healthy and happy holiday season. Want to make sure that you know that starting tuesday january fifth we are moving will be coming your way every morning starting ten. Am eastern time right here on espn radio. Thinking about if rain was lemon drops in gumdrops or whatever. I was thinking that i'm unfamiliar with but now this is what. I'm thinking about taylor. Twelve minutes everyone would wanna live in seattle or portland. Yes absolutely bring on the gumdrops rain. Welcome back to the dan le batard show on. Espn radio the espn app and espn. Plus we are presented by progressive insurance drivers. You save with progressive. Save over seven hundred and fifty dollars on average. He's taylor twelve minutes. I'm melissa let's talk. Nfl head. coaching vacancies. One of the stories. That's come out in. The last couple of days is that. There's some interest in former ohio state. head coach. Urban meyer as far as interviewing four or accepting head. Coaching job at the nfl level Immediately i think the job that jumps out is jacksonville They have not yet fired. Head coach doug marrone but many think that that is going to be coming here at the end of the season. They did already partways with their general manager. Dave caldwell a couple of weeks ago. They're now in a prime position. I shouldn't say prime position. They have clinched the first pick in the twenty twenty one. Nfl draft which will obviously unless. You're absolutely crazy. Be clemson quarterback trevor lawrence. What do you think about urban. Meyer he's on tv. Right now. i believe doing the analysts thing being back in on the sidelines. But this time in the nfl. I don't know about this. And here's why obviously he's a massive massive name right but jacksonville needs. Yes they do and they've got a ton of cap availability and they've got some draft picks they're going to have the number one pick. We know all of that. But there's two things that i look at arba myron say are. We sure that it's a sure fire. Hit in. My answer is no. Here's why he's going to need complete control so let's say he gets that elicit didn't he literally quits retire leave due to exhaustion due to his health being compromised because why because he lost games bill. Belichick lost is gonna lose nine ten games this year. Think of that. So if this is the urban meyer that his twenty two game winning streak was snapped by alabama in two thousand nine and immediately. He announced his retirement. Obviously he retired very quickly after that went to ohio state but then we saw the exhaustion and what he did to urban meyer. Losing what what did he. How many games in seven years at ohio state. He lost nine games. Nf there's no level of coaching that can compensate for less talent on an nfl. Roster follower where. I'm going here like howard. Football suits a perfectionist. Like an urban meyer. Someone that is very high wired the. Nfl doesn't so how can urban meyer on a personal level hindle that secondly most importantly is that. I'm not totally sure that if it is jacksonville in yes you get trevor lawrence. How long does it take to get your team. Ready to be winner in the nfl does urban meyer. Have it in him to wait. Two years elissa to reach the pinnacle of quarterback on a rookie contract likey. Trevor lawrence will be that team's going to be young. Team's going to be inexperienced. So what do you do with free agency. There's a lot of questions that if he wants to get into it. I feel like urban meyer back into the nfl. If there's a team out there that has some real real veteran leadership and real potential to win immediately if this is a two to five year project. i'm not shirts a surefire. I'm not jacksonville's definitely a project. You mentioned urban needing control if he were to get back into a situation where he's a head. Coach is former state quarterback cartel. Jones talked on k. j. z. About that very thing just Artists past friday. And you know of course. It's kinda came up. Allow bad coaching and things like that and Not saying he say yes not saying no but i think for him has the nfl. And i think he would agree with common that you have to have more role like a bill. O'brien kinda coach and gm. So he didn't get his guys in there so you can you know do or long coming at gm's on a pretty much the same way when it comes to the Dunia the team and direction because customer is a is a big control guy and he loves to have his blueprint his footprint. No almost any and everything is what the program and organization. So i think by right organization is willing to kinda give the keys to the guy who who have experienced coach in nfl level. I think it be successful. It's a tall task for sure. You mentioned all the things that just go into being an nfl head coach all the different areas that you would have control over the sleep you would. You would lose undoubtedly taking on a project like this an taylor you mentioned urban. Meyer hasn't lost a lot in his career overall. He's one hundred eighty seven and thirty two in seventeen seasons at his respective schools. I know jones. I'm not sure you wanna use bill. O'brien as the example team. Also true i bill o'brien and i was like. Oh no miami. Dolphins have a top five pick this year. Thanks to bill. O'brien that's the example cartel. Jones wants us for urban. Meyer taken the head. Coaching job in gentlemen manager job in the national football league. I'm not sure that's the one you've got. Jj watt on sunday calling out team mates for not being dedicated or motivated or showing up to work out me started on that list. That means we're going circle back to that later in the show. Because i have to hear taylor twelve and get started on this more coming up here on the dan le batard show a lot of intrigue going into week. Seventeen playoff implications on the line. 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Best of The Herd: 01/17/2019

The Herd with Colin Cowherd

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Best of The Herd: 01/17/2019

"Hi, I'm Ariel Casten Jonathan Strickland and together, we're going to tell you the stories behind some of the biggest triumphs in failures and business. That's right. We're going to explore situations that tested the metal entre preneurs pivotal moments required making tough decisions. We'll be talking about some big companies that everybody knows like Disney LEGO and Harley Davidson and together we try to answer the question. What do you do when you find yourself at the brink? Listen and subscribe at apple podcasts or on the iheartradio app or wherever you listen to your podcasts. Thanks for listening to the best of heard podcast. Be sure to catch us live every weekday from twelve to three eastern nine to noon Pacific on Fox Sports radio NFS one. Find your local station for the hurt at Fox Sports radio dot com or stream it live every day on the iheartradio app by searching heard. Is the best of the herd with Colin cowherd on Fox Sports radio. Here we go to Thursday. This is the herd. Live in wet. And again, rainy, Los Angeles. Iheartradio, Fox Sports radio on FM one one hour from now Greg Cosell best ten minutes, you'll hear on the matchups this weekend. Saints Rams chief's New England. Joining me now joy Taylor after a very very fun week. Our you joy, I'm doing great in morning morning. I went to a NBA game last night. I watched the other L A team the clippers get whacked by the Utah Jazz. And there's a story this morning. I think it's very interesting, and I want to start there. The Lakers kind of release something yesterday a little press. Release saying yellow Brown will be back in here. Just a couple of days, you know, just like random press release. He's being evaluated by the team, medical staff, and physicians he'll not travel with the team on the upcoming two game Rhody has been cleared to return to practice commencing that sweet and progress toward the return thereafter. Yeah. Just kind of a random press release. No big thing hol. But the reaction by Rich Paul in LeBron's camp. A little more than sensitive quote. We don't give a blank what nobody thinks. We're going to do. What's best for him? When he feels. He is best. He'll play. We're not on. Nobody's timeline. Look LeBron is sixteen year. We don't know nothing to nobody. When he's ready. You'll be back as simple as that. Excuse me. That. So the Lakers just released a very common press release and rich ball delivered a double middle finger. Whoa. Folks to six week injury. I was told yesterday it's more serious than people are letting on and LeBron is a guy that uses his own people and team staff. Six-week injury or missed eleven games. We've never had this with the Braun. He's the all time NBA leader in minutes. Played playoff minutes played he's actually paid like like like three other full seasons in just like playoff games. He's like a baseball pitcher that goes to game seven of the World Series seven eight years in a row. He's not getting more dynamic. This is a real injury previously. The most games he'd missed in succession were eight. And that was when he went down to D Wade and they worked out in Miami after he left. I went to Cleveland, and it was almost precautionary. It wasn't a real injury. Word eleven games. It's probably going to get to fifteen and old by the way every other star in this league has been hurt. Kevin durant? Steph curry coli, Leonard, James harden, Westbrook. Paul George Joel Embiid everybody in this league gets hurt except LeBron. And now LeBron's hurt. They're saying it's a three to six week injury. Folks. It didn't get touched by anybody. He slipped on the floor heard a pop, and here's the thing with LeBron. Lebron's great argue is the goat. But he's no longer the best two way player in the league coil. Leonard is he's no longer the best closer at the rim. Yana says he's no longer. The best score. James harden is Durant Steph curry our he was number one in all of those five six years ago. Let me just throw this out there. Lebron comes back in a week. Plays for a month and a half late March. Andy, here's another pop. Does Anthony Davis want to join him. There's a new trend with LeBron. Oh, he's human too. And I think what this shows is that the LeBron Laker situation. There is not perfect harmony. Kobe Bryant and Magic Johnson were emotionally and physically all in on the Lakers. Let's just say LeBron's at the bar having a cocktail hasn't gone into the restaurant yet. I was told when he first arrived he was reluctant assigned basketball's with the rest of the players. He uses his own training staff. He still doesn't quite know. If he's got a number two on this roster, nor does he know a feel land Anthony Davis when LeBron joins your team. And I understand this. He's always felt he and his camp. Hey, we're doing you favor deliver for us twice. Dan. Gilbert said at the end, I want my team back. It's why Pat Riley at the end said it's LeBron and everybody else. This thing is not in full harmony. And here's the problem. There's real tension with LeBron. The Lakers is Luke the guy. Do we have another guy de keep Lonzo and Brandon Ingram? When boogie cousins comes back if he stays in Golden State. What's the point? But the scariest part in all of this. The scariest part is this entire empire of LeBron is built on his body. He's never been the most fluid score. He's not the best ball handler in the league. He's not the best shooter in the league. He's not the best rebound in the league. He's the best body of all time. It is the temple to the empire. And it's now hurt untouched slipping hero. Pop six-week injury. Rich Paul's reaction speaks volumes. Little fear. Little fear the temple the body is like everybody else's that was a massive overreaction a middle. Double finger to a simple common pedestrian press. Release. There's real tension. This proves it. Let me shift to this couple of big football games. Not sure if you've heard about him Rams are at the saints patriots at. Kansas City, Patrick Mahomes. A very good player. I don't know. I mean MVP I guess a terrific player. He said yesterday. And this is not surprising because this happens all the time that the first time he faced New England. They kind of confused him. I mean, they do what they always do. They come out on scouted. Unscarred look stuff that they haven't shown weeks maybe in years, and they try to throw it on you and surprise you. When you played teams of this caliber you play teens with this much history of knowing how to win and capitalizing on people's mistakes. I mean, you can't come back and win games like that. And it was shown that game. And so for us we have to learn from that no that we can't make those mistakes we had to come out with our best best effort from the beginning of the game. All the way through the end. And it's gonna be a dogfight for the entire game. If you want to try to come out with a win. I will pick this game tomorrow on the show. We are eight no straight up eight playoff games. I just want to remind everybody and enjoy what I'm going to do is just simply I'm just going to remind people of something that has happened this year. Okay. This is not an opinion. I'm just going to remind you of what's happened Patrick Mahomes. Biggest games this year? Dench. The patriots loss to turnovers gives the Rams lost five turnovers at chargers at Seahawks loss loss, and they did beat the colts at home, by the way, a rebuilding team and didn't play brilliantly. I want to remind people in Tom Brady's five. Biggest games this year? I'm not going to count the bears. Win chiefs Packer Sunday night football. Viking Sunday night football Steelers chargers their foreign one. Tom Brady had fewer turnovers in all five games than Patrick Mahomes had in one against the Rams. I'm just reminding you a fax I am sorry. If they collide with your feelings, but Kansas City is two and four this year against playoff teams and New England is four and oh against playoff teams. I think it's an incredibly fair narrative. Sorry, if it gets you all derailed in Kansas City. It's a very fair narrative to say Kansas City is mostly played well in big games. But really hasn't learned how to close. It's also a very fair narrative to say New England against playoff teams still the best closers in the league. New England has not lost against a playoff team this year New England stub their TOA against bad teams who consider the patriots SuperBowl. The Jags Tennessee did Troy Miami Dolphins. But when they play the good teams they went for now and Brady was overwhelmingly brilliant the one exceptional year. And I didn't count the bears went in Chicago was the Pittsburgh game. And that was a game in which Josh Gordon, we later found out forty eight hours later had derailed gone off course, and they cut him. And so they didn't really have anybody to throw to down the field late. You remember that it was odd? We talked about it the next day. Why didn't they look throw to Josh Gordon? Thirty six hours later. He's off the team. These are just facts biggest games this weekend. Kansas City's played generally. Well, hasn't learned to close New England still best closers in the league. It was at fair. Was that incendiary was that? Controversial was that a hot take or anything? I mean, you're you're pointing to numbers. Yeah. Data. I mean, I'm not trying to tomorrow's the make picks. Are you going to surprise everyone with your pick? Well, America's media icon delivers only data and facts. And so I will deliver what I have been working on these all week joy. And I have I feel so strongly about one I can't contain myself. I can't contain myself that that's how I feel be sure to catch live editions of the heard weekdays at noon eastern, nine AM Pacific on Fox Sports radio affects one and the iheartradio app. Kyrie Irving came out yesterday used to play with LeBron bailed on him and LeBron James didn't like it because the brawn James Saudi was helping Kyrie Irving grow. Kyrie Irving was a one and done guy at college played eight college games at Duke couldn't get off campus fast enough. We'll kyri Irving is now admitting. Yeah, I was kind of learning stuff from LeBron. Maybe I should have been learning more stuff and not trying to get out of. Town so fast. Here's Kyrie Irving. It was a big deal for me because I had to call Bron until like, you know, I apologize for being a young player wanted to everything, you know, at his fingertips, and I wanted everything to be at my threshold. I wanted to be the guy that led us to change that I wanted to be the leader. I wanted to be all that. And you know, the responsibility of being the best player in the world. And leading your team is something that's not been for many people and Brown was one of those guys that came to Cleveland and tried to really shows show us what it's like to win a championship. And it was hard for him. And sometimes getting the most out of the group. It's not the easiest thing in the world. First of all, I like, the Kyrie Irving admits it that's a real sign of maturity, kyri Irving. Of course, Kyrie Irving is simply a talent. And not a leader. The NBA's got a leadership problem. I went to a game last night. It was a bunch of talented players who is really a leader. Steph Curry's a leader. Steph curry grew up with an NBA father, and then didn't try to get out of college. As soon as he could if you look at the Golden State Warriors. It's not a coincidence that Steph curry went to three years of college in Klay Thompson three and Draymond green. Foreign Andrei Igwe Dala to Steve Kerr also big part of the college experience, but the basketball culture in America, my friend is broken the basketball culture in America. Now is spot a talent in highschool, and let's get him paid in the pros. College basketball bad. No, it's not college for all of us. Men and women is the time. We grow up I had to buy my own groceries. Get a job and pay for things. I almost flunked out. I wasn't a grownup. You kind of learned to be a man, and I'll just speak for nineteen year old me, I learned to be a man in college. I had to figure out a checkbook in a budget and do my shopping do my own clothes. Nobody made my bed. Nobody washed my stuff college matters. Dwayne Wade taught LeBron had to be a leader in Miami. Until that point LeBron was just talented but LeBron joined the Miami Heat, Shane Batty, four years of college Ray, Allen, three years of college de weighed three years of college. You donnas has them for years of college men leaders LeBron to that point was just talented. It is then when LeBron became a leader talked about politics took vocal tribal opinions that were unpopular too many. That's what being a man is the NFL is never struggled with this. Because the NFL culture the football culture in America is about developing boys into men. You're nineteen years old you get recruited the university says you will not play. We will redshirt you. Grow up get stronger, you will then play three to four years come out at twenty three years old statistically football players in America. Get married sooner. Older men leading a family leading an offensive line. They walk into this league. Russell Wilson for years of college JJ watt and their community leaders overnight. But the basketball culture is simply about fine the talent and get it paid yesterday Scottie Pippen submitted to all of us that Zion. Williamson should no longer play at Duke. Let's just get him paid. So therefore Zion. Williamson will be a long list of marvelously talented NBA players who have no real leadership skills. Kyri Irving had two opportunities in hill. Life to learn from two great leaders. Mike sha. Chefs ski and yet he couldn't leave him fast enough and LeBron James after Miami a real leader. And he couldn't leave him fast enough either. I went to an NBA game last night. And when I look at this league, I don't see leaders. I see talent. Kevin durant? Too flaky James Harden's into James same with Westbrook. Collide doesn't talk Steph. Curry is a leader in a big component to that. Is college is playing within a system. Lebron was just talented forever. Then he joined a group of players who had been to college been on their own. Don't be so fast or roles your roll your eyes at the college experience. Yeah. I know. Yeah. I know you'll wanna get paid. I get it. And maybe over time the NC double A will figure something out. I like to pope they would but kyri Irving had two chances in his life to learn how to be a leader he couldn't exit either fast enough, be sure to catch live additions of the heard weekdays at noon eastern, not an Pacific. Andy Reid was saying this yesterday coach of the Kansas City Chiefs. He was saying on Tom Brady, he goes look at I look at the film, and like the age thing hasn't hit him. And so there are things that happen. And we know everybody ages baseball had a steroid problem. So thirty-seven-year-old. Guys got way better. I don't suspect. Tom Brady's doing that stuff. But people are looking at film and saying it's hard to see the decline. It is interesting to point out that with no deep threat and a tight end in gronk who will be a hall of Famer that was a shell of himself and with Julian element missing September. Now, I just want you to think about this. No deep threat. No longer a dominating force at tight end their best running backs a rookie. The offensive line was getting remember they draft pick got her. They had to go get a right tackle put him at left an element miss September. Tom Brady twenty nine touchdowns. Eleven pick sixty six percent completion percentage forty three hundred yards that had been Cam Newton's best here by mile working with the least he's ever had. So just remember that the other thing that's important. Remember is I think a lot of people feel New England is old grandkids. And Tom Brady is one will not be a patriot next year. It's a very good tight end class in the NFL draft gronk won't be a patriot. But you're forgetting that New England's core is mostly really young Stefan. Gilmore is twenty eight Trey flowers is twenty-five Sony. Michelle is twenty three James White's twenty-six Trent Brown the left. Tackles twenty-five, Stephen Gus Caskey's their kicker, he'll play forever. A shack Mason's their best offensive lineman twenty-five and John Bentley a rookies twenty two won the starting job last year as a rookie at linebacker and got hurt. And that's something. Interesting here to rookies popped for them in camp is Ahah win a first rounder and Joon Bentley a fifth rounder. They also had Duke Dawson and Braxton various they all got hurt. So they have four young players to John Bentley Isaiah win. They think are going to be stars and play this year. One starting roles didn't play. They also have twelve draft picks. So they'll actually become one of the middle to younger teams in the league next year as gronk term expires. So don't forget this number one Brady had very good numbers considering element didn't plan September grams pretty much a shot fighter. And no Dietrich. They still had very solid offensive numbers. They are. Twelve draft picks. And actually you could count it as sixteen because four draft picks last year, they were planning to play major minute to in fact, look like stars in camp had one starting roles. So there is this idea. Don't forget the NFL is a year to year proposition, the three teams I'll guarantee you that are be good next year. Gonna be good Kansas City New England and the colts everybody else year to year proposition. Generally, I lean to the Steelers, but we thought Baltimore was that. And they wrote it for about three years straight until this year with Jackson. Nobody takes the Texan seriously. They imploded in the playoffs. We liked the chargers, but they just melted down. And they plan a top division. We don't know what we're getting with grooten Sam darnold. Adam gates could be interesting, but it's a dysfunctional organization. So you know, what Andy Reid says is I'm looking at tape. I don't see the decline, and what I think a lot of people misunderstand New England has a chance to be very young next year outside of Brady, and he's not showing huge decline. It is a very good draft for the two things. New England needs tight end and a wide receiver and it's a deep draft not a ton of stars deep draft with both. They've got six picks in the first three rounds twelve overall. And I think a lot of people are forgetting four draft picks last year got hurt didn't play too had earned starting roles got hurt. So this is this is really going to sustain this thing. Bella check still the best coach in the league. It is still arguably the best home field advantage in. The AFC and Brady's Brady. One more heard the herd. Streams twenty four hours a day seven days a week within the iheartradio app. Search her to listen live or on demand. Whenever you like over. If you haven't checked out my new series the end of the world with Josh Clark. 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I would say that he was uncharacteristically inaccurate. And by that. I mean his ball placement wasn't quite as precise. I thought they were times based on the route concepts and where I know that he should be going with the ball that he didn't turn it loose a number of times. He did that. So I would say overall if you're being honest in your evaluation, you would say that drew Brees did not play at the same level. Which I would argue is there's a number on Tom Brady that he's not quite been as good in December as he has been in October and early that would point to fatigue in age is that unrealistic. You know, that's hard to know for sure. Because now we're trying to just sort of speculate as to why that may be the case, you know, in the case of breeze. I I don't know the answer to that breeze. It's always been a quarterback that I think is lower body has been really important to his game. Not in terms of running around. Like, let's say a Russell Wilson. But just how strong he is from in his lower body to move within the pocket, and then to be able to drive the ball, not necessarily with a power arm. He's he's not a power thrower. But just the ability to move reset stay on balance with the very firm base. Some might even look at the first play of the game against the eagles last week when he had to stay in the pocket and sort of reset and try to drive a deep ball to Ted Ginn and it came up short. The Rams are interesting. They kind of had to reboot they were very dynamic early interrupt stretch. And then they kind of rebooted against the Niners in Arizona got a buy and continued that sort of power running game they'd used against the cardinals and Niners against the Cowboys. So they've kind of rebooted I thought the BI week was kind of very important for this veteran offensive line to get rest, and they looked very sharp. But let's go to the Rams specifically it does feel like they've gone back or perhaps created with C J Anderson girly a little bit of a different offense than I saw early. It feels very run Centric. Well, I think it's always been that way. It's just they've been more successful. Because that's the way they start their offense during the regular season. Keep in mind they were third-best rushing team in the league. And they run the ball a lot. They were just very successful. And they're coming off to Cowboys game in which they did. Some really good things some really nuance things. They did a lot of tempo they played against a Cowboy's defense. That's very quick very fast likes to move. So what they did is. They went tempo, and they got Goff to the line of scrimmage now. He didn't always NAFTA ball right away. Sometimes he waited until they were three or four seconds on the clock. But when you do that the defense can't move the defense has to be static. And they got the front looks that they wanted. They got the defense static and they were able to attack those front looks their run game is all about attacking the front the defensive front that they're facing because they're run game is not overly diverse. It's different terms different coaches us, but it's essentially outside zone inside zone. So it's not a really diverse run game. Interesting. Off. I think we talked about this head kind of a rough November. And you know, teams are have different personalities Bella checks never been quite as you know, New England September New England in January two different teams. Sometimes what do you make of the match up with golf? What do you like that? He does. Well, when is he added his best? Well, I think off is very much a an is not a negative term. Because I think this is what coaches should do. I think office very much a programmed player. I think that when their offense works functionally ineffectively in all its dimensions. And he drops back and is relatively secure in the pocket that he throws a beautiful ball. He's an easy thrower. He's a comfortable thrower. He has a good arm for the most part. He's an accurate thrower. He lost some of his accuracy down the stretch. But when he's a comfortable player within the context of a multi dimensional offense. He's very pretty to watch the ball comes out. Really well, and then offense line is healthy isn't as good as any offensive line left in the playoffs. Well, the one thing that has been talked about all year. I remember we talked about with the eagles a year ago is all five starters played all sixteen games. And I think that when you get to this point the season, that's really important. It's not likely you'll have Ariza in cohesion and those kinds of things where there's a sinement mistakes based on a lack of understanding of what you're trying to get done. So I think that's really important going forward, by the way, Sean McVeigh, and Sean Payton or considered very smart, play designers, very clever, authentic coaches. So people can kind of lump them in together. Do you see similarities are they dissimilar sometimes? Well, I think in their general approach dissimilar because I think that Sean Payton is very much built on multiple personnel packages, multiple formation looks Sean McVeigh doesn't do much of that at all. They line up in what we call eleven personnel with three wide receivers on probably ninety five percent of their snacks. And they're not that multiple with their formation. Looks in fact in the weeknight. Endgame. They lined up in eleven personnel on every single snap and the saints defense lined up in nickel on every single. So now, here's a perfect example. Where teams have done things like this and it hasn't worked. And then people say, oh, you can't play like that. You're not creative. But for the Rams it works. Some Cup player that played against Bill Walsh in the Niners. Twenty years ago told me he said the Niners ran twelve plays. They had thirty different looks. He goes, they only ran twelve plays. You know? And then I had a player that played with Sam Weiss is that we have sixteen hundred plays. We just didn't do any of them. Well, I've always thought the number of plays is overblown you have to disguise looks. But do what you do well in life, and in football, and the Rams are what they're trying to do with all that shit motion. And the things that they do even just with your base outside zone run. Look is they're just trying to cause misreads based on how people have to react to what they're doing. You know, they're not fancy they're not multiple in the way, people think multiple, but they're just trying to cause defenders is not to be in the right place. And then that causes them to be beat late in their reactions. Let's shift to the AFC good stuff Greg Cosell joining us. So patriots are tannin. Oh this year when they rushed for one hundred yards. They use. They're running backs as receivers very effectively Sony. Michelle is now healthy is very small, but nimble clever runner he can go outside or inside the tackles. So when you look at their running game whether Teno and they get one hundred yards and you'll the candidate is run defense. What is the film say? Well, I think that the patriots run game is they run different concepts, depending on the personnel. That are on the field. They run certain concept when they have twenty one personnel meeting. The fullback Devlin is on the field, and they were on other concepts when they're an eleven personnel with reward receivers with Sony, Michelle. So you know, it depends what the look is and the cheese. So I think we'll line up with their personnel accordingly. My guess is they'll play their base defense against twenty one personnel. And there'll be a nickel versus the eleven personnel. And you'll see different formations one of the things. The patriots have always done Colin almost better than anybody over these last five six seven years is when they have base personnel on the field. They are so diverse with their formation looks that they create a lot of. Problems for defense. You know, I I don't recall them playing any better than they did against the chargers. I I was shocked by their effectiveness. What what blew you away on the film about New England's offense against what we consider to be excellent charger personnel. Well, I think that game was an odd game. Because the chargers shows to do the chargers essentially chose to play with six defensive backs their base defense. So when the patriots lined up with a fullback on the field and big people had Devlin grunk on the field. The chargers still had sixty -fensive backs on the field, and they really got hurt with the run game. Yes. Through the first half. And again, that's what they chose to do. They spent whole week taking that approach. They obviously thought it would be the best approach, but it hurt them. Let's go to Kansas City's offense. Tyree kills the fastest player. Probably in football. He gave he gave the patriots fit. And I consider the patriots secondary, Devin mccourty, tavon Gilmore, generally, it's very well. Coach Belichick has a history with DVD's. I think they have a pretty good secondary in my opinion. Maybe not as gifted as like a chargers. But I think gilmore's terrific player. I think Devon mcchord is you know in his thirties. But he's a very good player. Tyreek hill ate him alive. You know, Plaxico Burress was on my show, forty minutes ago. And he said nobody takes away the inside routes like ballot. Check they use the sideline as defender did the patriots had they had no success against tyreek hill, and they generally take away your big receiving threat. Why is he such a mayor for them keep this in mind in the first game they played and that was week six dollar. Check made a decision the decision. He made in that game. Was that he was going to take away Kelsey and not hill. Now, he may change that decision. Yeah. Because. One thing about the cheeses besides being very well schemed. They have very good personnel. And he'll present a different issue because of the pure speed. But they are there's certain defined tendencies that the chiefs have in certain formations. And if I know that Bill bell, check will know that. And it'll be very anxious to see what they do one tendency in particular when they go empty and the chiefs are very good out of empty is. They put tyreek hill in the inside slot to the trip side what we call three strong, and they tend to run him vertically from there. And you have you can't let him get over the top of you. So you're saying the chiefs are a tad more predictable out of their sets. Every team is see. That's the thing. People think that these games are wondering lost with cool stuff that no one's seen before. Everybody is is predictable. Probably not the right word. Everybody has tendencies and teams know what the opponents tendencies, you don't win these games because you. You're tricking people. And you're fooling people. I'm going to throw a guy's name out. I don't even know if we have tape for him that I think is going to be big this weekend. Chris Jones defensive lineman for the chiefs. He has emerged, and maybe I just wasn't paying attention. But it seems in the last two months he has emerged as a a real force a really difficult guy to block my takeaway on this game. If New England struggles with him and has to double him. It could affect the run game. Just talk a little about Kansas City's defensive front. I think Chris I'm not saying Aaron, Donald or Fletcher Cox. But boy when I watch Kansas City play, Greg. He is hard to stay in front of. Well, this will be purely a function in my view, and this is not profound Colin, but it did speak toward you're saying of the patriots being able to stay relatively on schedule because when they're playing well. And then when you saw them last week, it seemed as if Brady got the ball out so quick, yes. They were rarely in wrong yard situations. There may be no more patient quarterback that I can remember than Tom Brady in willing to throw the ball five yards. And very often those five yard games become eight yard gains. And while that may not appear on a on a highlight. That's a big play, particularly if it's first down, you know, then the second into. So the key thing to limit not only Chris Jones working inside. But just in Houston who didn't play week six and deformed is the ability to stay within the schedule the offense. And then the ball comes out so quick. And that's the key for the patriots when Brady secure, and I thought this year one of the differences with Brady is he wasn't as good when there were people around him as he's been in years past. So if you can keep him secure and get the ball out. It might negate that pass rush. Joey Bosa was watching film last night, Joey Bosa they had a miked. He was just frustrated. He kept going to the sideline San he's getting rid of the I get there. He doesn't matter. How good are pass rushes. Right and guy look up and the balls down the field. All right. Your big play this week is Brady to element against the chiefs role at go right into it till it started right now. And this was a seventeen yard touchdown pass from Brady to settlement. And was very reflective of this. First matchup in a number of ways. And we'll start with the fact that the patriots go with a trips formation here to the field. And this is they do a lot of the three receivers trips formation. It's a bunch formation and the chiefs are playing man to man, they play a lot of men coverage you're going to see this. But now the other thing which is really Representative of the first game. And what the chiefs do is the chiefs rushed three. Okay. They rushed three and they drop to defenders kind of underneath a lurker. And so this is what they did many snaps in that game. It was cover. One man coverage behind a three man rushed to lurker. Now, you get to the matchup settlement for fuller, and they'll take that every time for is a good player, but they liked that that matchup they'll take element in the slot versus fuller all day long. But that's something to really watch for in this game. Because the cheese they rush. Three quite a bit. That's part of what they do. And they like to play coverage, but they play man coverage with a lot of with to those two free defenders, which I think they'll do against New England. Who's got the better offense line, by the way? What is the film side? Well, they're different because the offense is different. You know, there's more deep drops for Kansas City. And there's more quick drops for the for the patriots. So you know, that's a hard call. They just play totally differently. You do like Kansas City's defensive front better than New England's though Trey flowers is pretty well as an individual group. Yes. You know, the patriots don't have that one pass rusher like default or Justin Houston, and Chris Jones is certainly very good on the inside. So you know, as individuals the chiefs are better. I can't wait for this. I really do. I I think it's very easy to look at Kansas City and say payback big weekend. But I'll tell you this New England was four no against playoff teams this year. And they they have a tendency to be very very good in these big game. So I I just can't wait. I it's going to be downright bombing. Now at least twenty as opposed to zero. No kidding dragged. Great talking to you. Thanks, Colin pushy. It'd be sure to catch live editions of the heard weekdays at noon eastern, not a emphasis back on Fox Sports radio f s one and the iheartradio app. One of the reasons I don't like the term hot take is. Because sports delivers the amazing sports delivers the unpredictable things happen in sports that would be ridiculous to predict and yet over time. They happen. Very rarely in sports is it predictable. And so these days everybody's afraid to have a strong opinion because social media will branded a hot take. Well, right now social media's having something called the tenure challenge, you go back to two thousand nine and you show pictures, and you compare them to yourself and compare yourself to now twenty nineteen and I thought it would be interesting to go back ten years to look at things we could have said would happen in sports, and how absolutely absurd it would have sounded ten years ago, and they all came true. So let's actually go back in time. It's time to look back at the year two thousand nine to see how much changed how different people looked and whatever was going on with Goulet in this photo. Get ready for the heard special version of the ten year challenge. Okay. A hot take two thousand nine. This would have been a hot take the patriots dynasty. I know Brady's hurt. It's gonna last another ten years, and he's still going to be an MVP at forty. That's exactly what happened. Tom Brady was an MVP at forty in two thousand nine he was coming off an injury. Peyton Manning was in his prime just turning the corner to the back nine and the dynasty would last double the length of the longest dynasty Steelers in NFL history ten years ago. How about this one Tony Romo will only appear in a Super Bowl as an announcer. What if I would have said that in two thousand nine he was only a third year starter for the Cowboys. I would have believed you, but by the way, he is now younger than Brady and Brees who are playing this weekend. Only in his third year as a starter had just wanna play playoff game. I come on the air and say he will ten years from now be doing the Super Bowl as an announcer. He wanted to be playing. Let's actually true. It gets better the NFL's best future. Coach. Is a twenty two year old assistant in Tampa. His name is Sean McVeigh he'll go on to coach the Florida tuskers of the United football league. That's something. He will go on. He was the youngest assistant the league he will go on to be the most duplicated copied coach in the National Football League. From the Florida tuskers. How about this one? This is why it got to be careful about saying hot take sports delivers the insane in two thousand nine I said Davidson junior shooting guard Steph curry will revolutionize the NBA in two thousand nine he missed the tournament. He couldn't make the turnament he has since gone on to win the first unanimous MVP's three NBA titles. Currently a set the record for the most threes in a season three separate times ten years ago, you'd be laughed off sports radio for saying that little guy that just missed a tournament will revolutionize professional basketball forever. How about this? If I said ten years ago centers in the NBA who become mostly irrelevant. Two thousand nine Dwight Howard was an MVP candidate and led the Orlando Magic to the NBA finals. He has now been on five teams and never reached the finals again, even the NBA franchise. The Lakers known as the final landing spot for most of the great centers had him. And in the end weren't that truly interested nor was he interested in the Lakers. How about this one? Ten years ago ten year challenge if I said, hey, LeBron's going to be a Laker. I. That would have been an incredible hot take in two thousand nine. The biggest rivalry in the NBA was LeBron against Kobe and the Lakers. The Lakers won the title that year certainly didn't appear to need. Lebron? Lebron is now in his fourth team that in itself would have been a crazy hot take. If I said, he leaves Cleveland comes back. How about this one two thousand nine ten year challenge be careful about saying take if I'd have said two thousand nine hey, Tiger Woods never went. Another major what in two thousand nine tiger wood at one fourteen majors and was on pace to shatter Jack Nicklaus's record of eighteen. Woods has won a major. I think what is it one? Since one of the US open in two thousand eight tight tiger had been the world's number wing one ranked golfer since June of two thousand five to two thousand nine he was the most dominant golfer on the planet. There was no second place. Mickelson was seen as a large Grand Canyon gap behind him two thousand nine tiger will never win another major. How about this? If I said this ten years ago. I think about this. The Chicago Cubs will become one of baseball's best franchises. They had a horrible facility in two thousand nine they'd got one hundred and one years without winning a World Series. They have now over the last four years amassed three hundred and eighty seven wins. That is the most in major league baseball. But how about the craziest thing if I'd have said this ten years ago? Clemson will blow out Alabama to in the college football playoff and get serve. Mcdonald's by president. Donald trump. Man that would have been the craziest hot take of all time. And that's exactly what happened. Not only. Is. It a surprise that. Clemson now is the dominant force because Clemson at that time in two thousand nine hadn't won double digit games in in. Two thousand nine. Nineteen years. So clemson's nine the crazy story the guy in the White House kinda crazy story that picture will be in history books, our grandchildren. We'll see. But it is interesting. Whenever anybody says hot take I say timeout sports, the truly bizarre happens a junior at Davidson who can't make the tournament changes the world tiger falls off a cliff. Donald Trump becomes president and serves Clemson McDonald's. Lebron becomes a Laker. I mean, the cubs become Allama the Red Sox. You know, arguably the best analytic team in baseball. I think maybe the the NBA centers and Tom Brady are the most bizarre. I mean, obviously like no other than Steph. Curry could have predicted what Steph us in our lifetime. Joy dynasties in the NFL lasted about six years. I mean the Steelers were about seven you got about six years of this stuff in your players fell apart players couldn't flavor. Oh, yeah. I mean, you can you can do so. Much more now with nutrition in two thousand nine they'd already been to the Super Bowl three times. Bready just got hurt and it ten years from now they'll still they'll win their division. Every decade you be like nobody can last that long. Brady's throwing a touchdown pass to seventy four different people. Like you. It's insane. Even think what they're doing. So I was planted heartache I love sportscasters who not only report on just what happened, but are not afraid to go out and say, I think this is going to happen social media shames you and mocks you for doing that. But the guys that I listened to the gals listened to on sports, talk radio and sports radio are not just reporting. What did happen? They're projecting. What they think will happen. That's what I think. Sports is what's great about sports. It delivers the wildly unpredictable. Stirred welcome to hysteria. Fifty one a weekly ho Decoste of mysteries conspiracies and the unexplained. We've John Brent and conspiracy about you're all idiots. Join them each week as they clarify conspiracies. What better way to dominate your competition than to say they're trying to control your mind, then get old and probe the paranormal? It's all about laylines. 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I have some other numbers here with brees and brady brady is thrown for over ninety thousand yards if you include the playoffs with the regular season breeze just over eighty five thousand yards between them so they have one hundred and seventy six thousand yards of passing. That would mean they have just over one hundred miles of passing between them and twelve hundred and sixty three touchdowns. I thought that might be a stat of the day or two heck is going on around air. Comes that whiteness stat of the brady and brees. They're having fun with it and two the most competitive players of all time and You know you look at this game and what it means. We love to look at legacies. Here brady's already the go but breeze to get another super bowl that go along way but if brady would get to another super bowl win another super bowl. Let's just for hypothetical he's going to beat after beat breeze then probably go to green bay beat aaron rodgers and then he would probably have to be patrick mahomes in the super bowl so imagine going through that murderers row if you beat breeze rogers and mahomes and taylor heinecke of course would also be thrown in there as well but this is an interesting matchup and we sorta ramp up with the playoff games. You have saturday rams packers. There's some intrigue their ravens bills. Maybe some snow in their sunday browns. And then we christen it with the buccaneers and the saints so it worked out quite well. I think as you're going to ramp up with these games and then you end with the hall of fame matchup between the buccaneers and the saints. This program this program is brought to you by the great folks at built bar. We love all eighteen of their amazing flavors. It tastes so good. You can't believe it's a protein bar go to. Bill barr dot com enter the promo code. Gp for twenty percent off coming up. We'll talk to the new texas head. Coach steve sarkisian michelle to foia working that sunday night. Game for nbc. She will join us as well. Tony boselli. he's been a hall of fame. Finalist and jags analysts will get his thoughts on urban meyer as the new head coach and michael wilpon from pardon. The interruption will stop by as well. The jets have found their new head coach. Robert sala he was with the niners. Defensive coordinator is the new head coach. He is considered a ceo type coach that he does defer to others who have an offensive coordinator of course in you decide what you're gonna do with sam darnold but he is a defense. I head coach which is interesting. It always happens this way the guy you had to go the opposite the next time around. Got an offensive minded guy. And now we're gonna bring it a defensive minded guy got a players coach and then you got a guy who's a disciplinarian one guy has hair. The other guy doesn't have any maybe that doesn't factor in here as well but The jags have hired urban meyer. Now he's got to get his general manager there. The jets have their head coach as well. The net sort of gave an update on kyrie irving. And that is. They don't really have an update on kyrie irving. I think this might be covert related or feels like its covid related. That there might be protocols that he's got to go through before he can come back is the nba involved. In this. And i believe that is the case right now. I don't know if kyrie irving just checked out and said what happened at our nation's capital troubled him and then maybe he started to look at the bigger picture. Am i just a basketball player. I wanna be more. I have no idea. I have no idea then. There was a report that came out the maybe in k. d. there's little distance in their relationship. there was also a report He wasn't all in. On steve. Nash being hired as the head coach. This might be something as simple for the lack of a better word of the cova related issue was he partying out outta mask. Gone his sister's birthday and is that what is preventing him from coming back also. Here is the big topic. Yesterday we got done with the show and then mclovin goes are the nets. Is this the best three. That's ever been on the floor together the same team and then all of a sudden everybody had an opinion on this and then we took a break and then we came in this morning and then we picked up on the conversation again. Here is jay williams the espn nba analyst. On the best trio ever assembled if there's anything to grab kyrie irvings attention it. Is this treat. This trio is better than a trio that i saw when kevin durant went to golden state. And that's what klay thompson. And that's what steph curry is better than a trio that. I saw lebron james in d. wade and chris bosh miami people are going to ask questions about. How do you make a work. Here's how you make it work. Kyrie irving move off the ball. James harden. You are on the ball. James harden averaged around ten assists per game. If you want to game last night against the knicks. Kevin durant doesn't need the ball in his hands. I think they might be assembled in the history of the league okay. Strong j of course played in the nba and has been analysts at the mother ship quite some time. He's got his opinion on this. And when you start to look at these trios it's do. They fit together because individually. You can say this is as talented as we've seen but that doesn't always work. It's does it fit in. That's where i have my big questions because kyri is talented. I mean he's never wanted. Mvp has hard time staying healthy. You know he bruin things in cleveland. He ruined things in boston. And we may do his best to ruin things in brooklyn for all. I know extremely talented. Maybe the best handle. I've ever seen on somebody in nba history. I don't know how he fits in. I don't know how hard and fits in. I know kevin durant can fit in because he has fit and he seems like he has a willingness to okay. I can get thirty on sixteen shots. Because i can go to the line. He plays defense. I'm not worried about k. D. i'm worried about the other two here because if you start to look at greatest trios in nba history. What did they achieve. Because i don't know what these three are going to achieve and if you don't have a title after that after two years then this has been a failure you gotta get to the nba finals. You gotta be playing for a championship before. I'm going to acknowledge. Just how great. The three are when lebron and wade and chris bosh were there. Okay lebron wade. Two of the greats of all time chris bosh was a perennial all star and kind of sacrificed his game for the betterment of making it a lethal trio. You had boston you have paul pearson kevin garnett and you had great players hall of fame players. They fit together. You can throw in rondo there as well the fourth and he's a hall of famer as well but if you're at the big three the big three's that were rodman pippen and jordan. It worked rodman new israel pippen news roll jordan. Of course did would jordan always do yet kareem and yet magic and yeah james worthy james worthy was never unleashed because james worthy to me could have been a thirty point score if he wanted to and you had magic there and you had korean. Cream wasn't the corrine that we saw in the seventies but they played well together because magic made sure you understood what your roles were. I don't know by james harden is he going to be the guy who says i'm going to dictate i'm have the ball. Kyrie off the ball. Then you have k. D. steve nash. What roles are you gonna plan all of this. But when you start to talk about big. Three's is it just the talent that we're assessing here. Because if i look at what jay williams or listen to jay williams hussein okay. Best trio ever hardens won an mvp katie's one couple won a couple of titles harden hasn't won anything kyrie one and hit the big shot against golden state You could also look at when the you know the lakers mean somebody brought this up and i don't think that this is accurate. The lakers acquired gary payton. And karl malone. They had shack koby. But gary payton and karl malone. We're not great. They weren't great at one point. They were the alpha but when they got to payton and karl malone or they got steve nash. You know that they were nowhere near what they were in their prime. So i don't. I don't factor that in in anybody. Who factors that in. Doesn't know what peyton and carl malone were like when they went to the lakers there. So if you're going to have your trio here. I mean i'm curious if people go. Hey this is the best trio that i remember. You're going to base it off results. We don't have the results with the nets but if you say talent level wise okay i mean it's an interesting discussion but trio's sometimes work and sometimes they don't work. I would still take golden state with steph and clay in. Throw in draymond green like. That's my fourth. I feel pretty confident here because even when you had draymond green is your third best. They were still pretty good. But i had clay. No drama steph knew that katie was the best player and katie knew. He was the best player. And if you didn't get hurt they were gonna. They were gonna win another title. They're mclovin curry really new kate. He was the best player as i recall. That's not exactly how it was all time. Well i think steph curry shared extremely well. There i think the tension was draymond green and draymond green katie. Was there to win a title and maybe not there for the long haul. I think that's where the friction started. It felt like yeah mcleod. Why the big three arguments seem to me is because like when lebron and wade and bosch go were all like mid twenties and at their peaks. I feel like this is closer to the old lakers team because katie are not harden and. They're all in their low thirties. Coming off surgery. If feels like they're distressed assets. Not like those plays at their peak. Katie is still great. I know but i'm nervous about the achilles. you know. yeah well. I guess you have to worry about that. I'm worried about harden and z to get in shape. And i'm worried if kyrie really wants to play basketball right. Are those guys the same players. They were twenty six. That's what i'm of. Were no no. That's why when the the he got together. Everyone's like they're gonna win three titles. Nobody's saying this team's gonna win three time and they didn't win the first year with that group. Know it does compare well to the celtics like you said ray allen was coming off a season where seven twenty six for seattle. And he was the man or kevin garnett was coming off a season where he's averaging twenty four and fourteen for the timberwolves and he was d. Feature guy and they're all thirty years old and cobb paul pierce average twenty six the year before they join forces they were all alpha their team but all three like mclovin said we're healthy going into that big three run ahead and i know that we always loved the kristen. What is new. We always love to go. That's the best we've ever seen You know because we have short memories. But if you're saying you put together these three personalities and i would stress personalities. Then i find that really interesting because you have three of the most sensitive superstars to play together and that's also that factors in as well with these guys you know they let little things bother them and i think that's a factor that i don't know how you can measure but it's going to be an issue with these guys. What is said whispered who said it did. They say that they mean it. But james harden didn't show up for training camp kyri hasn't shown up in katie's coming off the achilles. I don't like asterisk. I'm gonna put a big asterisk next to this one when we say the most talented trio of all time i. I don't like individual. I like teen talent. Because we've seen individual talent. And i go back to the philadelphia. Seventy sixers in nineteen seventy seven when they went against portland. Dr j. george. Mcginnis doug collins darryl dawkins. They had an unbelievable free. They had as much talent as you can put on a basketball floor and they lost to a portland team that had one superstar and bill walton a very good player in maurice lucas and then a bunch of role players who knew their roles talent is great. Talent always done doesn't always win yes. He did the lakers win last year because of great team chemistry or because they had a couple of awesome players. Why i think it helps having awesome players but you also have the have those role players as well. I mean they had drama free member. Frank vogel people forget. Frank vogel frank vogel. So you're going to be able to handle lebron drama free and i think that was the key. They just went out there and played basketball now. There was drama. But i think they handled the drama. Really really well yes. Mclovin by the common ingredient is lebron teams to know how to play team ball. He he knows how to be a co superstar. Well it's you it starts with him. I don't know who it starts with in brooklyn katie. I don't think so. I think it has to start with hard. Hardens going to have the ball. He's going to have the ball and kyrie's got to be the off guard. And then you have katie in there. And i know people brought up the celtics and you know in a different era. Okay but not. In this era. Like bob cousy bill. Sharman bill russell. No that that doesn't work. They want a lot of titles. Does it work that. They were great team players. Because i could put in seven other guys. Sam jones in casey jones and tommy heinsohn but now they don't factor in these are these are. Mvp guys that worked hard has been in the mvp conversation top five. I think the last six years in k. d. has won the. Mvp mclean. i is there any. Fear is a brooklyn resident. That this is all gonna blow up twenty twenty four. We're back. it's the worst. Sure i have to start with kyrie like mentally and physically and i and maybe this is just cove related but i go back to when i first called out kyri. You gotta let steve national where you are. You want to be a professional. You wanna talk about others being a professional. Let your coach know where you are. Not your teammates. Let your coach. No and then you know. covert related. Is he being irresponsible. You know that's where it gets dangerous. This is a guy who wanted this. He got katie. Now here we go. They didn't wanna go to the knicks. They went to brooklyn. He got what he wanted. And he's not even there right now. And i think when james harden makes his debut i don't think is going to be on the floor at that time he maybe in in cova protocol here mean at least show up and watch the game how about being a zoom call and watch the game as opposed to be in at a birthday party or some political zoom partier meeting that he was involved in. Yes mclovin appalling. I think the scariest thing i read yesterday. I think we talked about it at all. Three of these guys after next season could get out all their contracts opt out by their choice. Oh man so you got two years. You're on the clock two years gotta make it work and can you make it work. It's it's interesting though that you have this type of talent and you're asking it to work together because it's going to have an all star game feel to it where it's going to be clumsy. At times. there will be times when they're unbelievable but they're not gonna play defense they don't have a rim protector. Is the kind of team that you look at and you go boy. They're going to be unstoppable. And then you get him into a seven game series and then you start to pick them apart a little bit here but they might be just like. James harden has been his entire career a great regular season performer. And maybe that's what the nets turn out to be. Maybe they have magic and make it work. But it's going to start with james harden because he's going to have the ball hands. We'll take a break. Phone calls are always welcome. Eight seven seven three. Dp show good morning peacock. They carry this program all three hours and also are great radio affiliates around the country. Say good morning to those who are listening on chat rose well twenty one after the hour just getting started on this friday dan and the damage. 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How can i help at seneca women dot com and i will answer with specific advice and understanding. Listen to how. Can i help with doctor. Gail saltz on the iheartradio app on apple podcasts. Or wherever you get your podcasts. Sunday's game will be tom. Brady's sixteenth divisional playoff game in his career. Drew brees will be the fifteenth different quarterback. He's faced in those sixteen games boy. What a luxury to have the same quarterback year in and year out for over a decade. Obviously more than almost two decades in new england and just to. Have you know that you have that constant and it starts with your quarterback and to be able to have that and here. He is that he's been in sixteen of those games. He's going to face fifteen different. Quarterbacks pretty amazing all right mclovin. You got a poll question for me today. We have overall quarterback paul. But before i give you that individual one lamar jackson the snow help possible snow help or hurt him. How much snow so. Here's a headline ravens. Bills forecasts looking dicey lake effect. Snow could fall in buffalo during games so they have no idea. Because i guess the lake is what causes snow. I have no idea what's going on there. But he's from florida. He's never played a snow game in his life. I think once you get there and start playing. Then it's fine but i. This is a running team in buffalo. I don't think has been very good against the run this year. I would think for a run. Heavy team. it's paramount that they get out to a lead and if they do then then you continue to have that ability to run the football. That's your game plan I'm gonna say the snow will help him. Can you imagine trying to tackle him. He's hard enough to attack us and over okay. I always say when people say. Oh you know when you're playing in conditions like that if i know where i'm going and you have to try to figure out where i'm going and then you throw snow in there so i have snow on my side that i know where i'm going to go. I know what i'm going to be doing now. You have to try to stop me and my talents and you have to factor in the weather conditions as well so i always look at the offense having the advantage. But he's one a lamar was talking in a. He's a florida guy like the snow. Totally freaked about. He's like. I don't know what's going on but i think if we find the real that we put up his which. Qb would you most like to see win a super bowl this year. We're throw it all aid in their jared goff aaron rodgers lamar jackson josh allen baker. Mayfield patrick mahomes. Tom brady or drew brees. Who are you rooting for. If you don't have a team in so if you don't have a team in the playoffs which quarterback would you like to see win a super bowl this year. I like to see all of them win. A super bowl. Rogers needs one more. I think to go along with the most talented. You know the label most talented quarterback of all time i think would help having two super bowls Mahomes it gets another one at that age. Brady getting one more. He doesn't need it but if he went through briesen rogers in mahomes to get it that be. I mean there would never ever never ever be a conversation on who might be better than tom brady. Brees getting another one as well is pretty big baker mayfield. Now i mean as much as i liked the browns. I can't take more in endorsements more commercials with baker. If he went to the super bowl. I got i got somebody. He may all of a sudden be in those state. Farm commercials are progressive. Or whatever the geiko or something. I don't know josh allen. Jackson and then jared goff going back to the super bowl. I don't know i i. I guess aaron rodgers. Because i think he's he's so talented to not have only have one super bowl. Were if if it's all said and done you only has one then. I think that's a shame. Yeah my snarky side. Watts rogers to get it. He's up on the podium. There jordan love behind them. They use a first round draft. Pick out of quarterback snarky side. Wants rogers club. I kind of want baker mayfield. Just so he can give the middle finger to all his critics because he already enjoys doing that. Can you imagine the turnaround reputation. wise for. you're right. I understand the ads. I think the rogers middle finger might be bigger because remember all the things that came out. I felt like it was once a year. There was something about rogers member. He was not considered a top ten quarterback in august. And i said to police stopped giving me these lists because they're stupid. There's a lot of them but for anybody to think unless they were doing it for heartache. I have no idea why but to say that. He's not a top. Ten quarterback was crazy. He only threw twenty six touchdowns last year. That's like last year was not good and it wasn't his fault but okay maybe that year. He was not a top five quarterback but to say he's not a top ten quarterback. No i wouldn't do it. But i understand that they were looking at the progression off. Offer that then jameis. Winston had a better year because he threw for five thousand yards and over thirty touchdowns. But you yourself were critic of the packers last year. You said that was a phony thirteen and it was. It was everyone thought. Matt leflore just wants to run it and they're going to become the titans with like an rogers are going to be ryan tannehill. He had twenty six touchdowns and four interceptions. I don't know if if they turned him loose and that was to me part of the problem because they're draft was basic. It was based off being another san francisco. Forty nine or two. They wanted to mirror the niners and they drafted fullback another running back in their jin draft a wide receiver. So i don't put this at the feet of aaron rodgers. i put this feed management there. Yes aaron rodgers. Actually through more passes last year. He had five hundred twenty six attempts this year. That's a lowest attempts for rogers in the past ten years in a sixteen game season but he still had forty three hundred yards and forty eight touchdowns new well. That's quite forty eight. No one's talking about no no yes. Comeback player was okay. How about this can kyrie irving wind comeback player of the year. What's he coming back from. I don't know. But i just wondered that last night because i'm watching Nothing much in dallas play and gets my hornets and it just came to mind when like you know when kyrie comes back from mars can well. I don't know if he believes in mars. Oh but he believes that three mars is i think but could he be. Comeback player of the year is comeback player of the year from last year's performance. Or you can come back from something that happened this year. I'd always ask why not come back. Midseason come back. how about yours come back. That's no no unpack here. Just just be the comeback player. Please come back play. Yeah no wards but just come back. That's all that's all we're asking all right. So are you going to go with the quarterback who doesn't win this. Nobody thinks patrick mahomes need this. Everyone's like he's no. He's a young goat group. Whether he wins it feels like he gets is gonna get one one every three years. Come on mahomes leave samora. Leave some extras for us. John in pennsylvania. Good morning john. What's on your mind today. Good morning guys. hey Six to forty of my little covert fat. But aren't we all I know right. i'm going with the ongoing drew brees. But that's not why. I called. But i'd love to see drew. Get one because he doesn't have any. Ps and writers has a few why i called. Dan was You turn me on. And it was delightful. I got home last night. Wait wait wait a minute. Hold on john. You got to be a little more specific than i turned you on delightful. Maybe i could phrased tried again. John in pennsylvania joins say john. What's on your mind today. Good morning dan. Six two forty okay. So you turned me onto cereal. And i got home last night and i and thank you for the recommendation because I got home last night and crushed a bowl of fruity pebbles and it was so good that i had to double down and it went for another bowl of fruity pebbles. My girlfriend has a sixteen year old daughter. She can crush three boxes of them in a week. And i haven't had a bowl of cereal in like you said yesterday maybe ten or more years but man. I some fruity pebbles. And just sit on the couch. And i had a house to myself. And i was just chilling and like that i bowl was delightful so much so that i i oh and then i took a nap and it was great. And it's all because of you will thank seen. Well no thank you dan. thank you john. All right. I'm glad i turned you on. You know. it's not the first guy who's ever said that to me. Yes and it was delightful. Do you realize what bob is going to do with that. Bob who does all of our openings who does such a great job it is. Put it on a tee for him. They're mclovin did you guys think he was talking about the podcast series. That's why i'm like cereal. That was three years ago. Dude yeah. I mentioned yesterday that i had cereal this week. I haven't had cereal bowl of cereal in over a decade and for some reason i went into the pantry and it was staring at me and i said honeycomb i'm home and i I grabbed the box and two bulls go apple. I got a note from my psychologist professor. That i know and he said the reason people who haven't had cereal one of the reasons enjoy having a bowl of cereal after a long drought of not having it because it reminds you of your child reminds you of days with your younger family. No no nothing to do that absolutely he. That's no no. He doesn't know what he's talking about. It's not like i went. You know i hit a nerve or you're gonna cry no no. That's just it that. If i was reminiscent about my childhood it'd be said i try to be subconscious that you enjoyed the bowl of cereal sitting there just because he has this diagnosis doesn't mean it's right. Paulie like you don't always trust what your doctor tells you sensitive. It had nothing to do awfully offensive. That he doesn't know what he's talking. Paulie kept coming back and i'm like no paul semi another note that said when people are defensive other and i have no if if brings back childhood memories we had crappy cereal growing up so it would brought back memories. My mom would put water into the milk to make the milk go around. I was drinking two percent before there was two percents sad looted know yes. My mom would make things go around and we had six kids. God love her. I have ketchup. And she'd we'd go. We're out of ketchup. Mom and she would pour water in the top of the cabinet in. And you'd swirl it around and then you throw it on your french fries or tater tots now some no. It didn't bring back memories of my childhood but now this did yes i think. We're burying the leader. Polly's finally getting help. This great. well no no. He doesn't listen to the therapist now. He has a friend who's a therapist. Oh friend randy pays two dollars an hour to help him with his stunt this up against the break yeah. Are you in therapy now. I never half okay. I've thought about this and try it. I thought we might want to consider. I have the feeling that if i go. I'm never getting out like where. I'm not going to be one of those three months and then like it's clean up on aisle five. Everything's better well. The feeling that it probably. I'm sure it would do some good. Yeah but i mean you have to be ready for it if you go kicking and screaming or you sort of going into it then. It never works. I read a story recently. Not that you can't self analyze yourself if that's a phrase like you can't like you need someone else to tell you help you think about things like if something bothers you from your childhood or you got something. That's or whatever be like. Sometimes you could think while i'm upset because of my dad died cater. I'm upset with that because of some they haven't been high school. That is not possible to self analyze. No we think we can. But my problem was i kept asking the first time it went to therapy. I kept asking the therapist questions. And he said no. I asked you questions. And i said is this conversation because i didn't know in an i. I'm used to sitting down asking questions and it didn't go well and so i go to another therapist but i had to learn to not ask any question because he would ask me questions and then i would ask him a question because he's like i wanted to know about him and he said no that it doesn't work that way. Then you throw it to video clip which is really weird like a pistons highlight bizarre. Let's not gonna help from your sportscenter days. You sell used to forty minutes and forty seconds and todd is filing made it five. Two blue jackets want to know about the serial kid thing while you. You like the cartoons. Becker bugs bunny cereal now. What happened here is a kid. Milkin ketchup can't keep saying. I'm not to double run. Scored six three houston. You can't that doesn't make any sense. Look who has four guestbook. Today on a friday right fritzy relationship with your uncle. I rather tell you about that triple and knocked into. Let's go to three indians. I'm kind of hoping steve sarkisian cancels here coming up top. Yeah maybe michelle to foyer gets called into a meeting can join us talk about buccaneers saints. Having trouble talking about my feelings will explain. We'll take a break. Play the up next here. And the dan patrick show. Thanks for listening to the dan. 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Dan patrick dot com by january twenty four th mercedes benz vans during the commercial break. We were wondering about how many quarterbacks have thrown for more than forty touchdowns and fewer than ten picks in a season. Because i wanted to see what aaron rodgers done you know. They had this preseason list. And i think he was not in the top ten amongst quarterbacks in the last three years or last two years two thousand eighteen and twenty. Two thousand nine hundred. Twenty nine thousand nine touchdown passes eleven interception ninety nine and eleven day stat of the day stat of the day comes that what stat of the all right mclovin. You wanna try this quarterbacks who again for more than forty touchdowns and less than ten interceptions in a season. But i don't think. I have it right at all but the to record years the brady fifty are td season and the manning fifty five td season whether the to jump to anybody else want a piece of also wondering one other guy. Did matt ryan get in there in his mvp ear. Who was the other getting out of that. Aaron rodgers only. How many quarterbacks are in the forty less than ten to tom. Brady did it once in two thousand seven fifty touchdowns eight picks aaron rodgers three times including this year. That's it that's it paid. Never did know oppressive russell wilson junior. The third is not. He's usually like thirty five and eleven. Thirty five and eight and drew brees. I didn't think was drew brees but you thought drew brees might be a candidate for that. Yeah rogers is just now. He was criticized. Because you know he'll throw the ball way you know that he doesn't throw like it's it's so weird it's once a year. It feels like a former says something about aaron rodgers. or there's a whisper about aaron rodgers. Not a team player. Didn't like what. Mike mccarthy was calling change the play at the line of scrimmage and then all of a sudden it goes away when rogers plays well then it goes away. I haven't heard it this year. I haven't heard anything about aaron right. Memory always not a leader. He's he's distant he's aloof. Okay i mean. I i listen to all of this. I just know when he gets on the football field. There is nobody that ever seen. Who makes the game look easier. When he's playing in an at his peak level level. Nobody makes the game. Look easier in. That includes elway montana. Johnny united states. You can throw in. Every course patrick mahomes every single one of them. Does that mean that. Aaron rodgers is the most challenging quarterback to play the game. No because i don't even know how you factor in. What is talent like talent to me with a quarterback. I assume everybody has a pretty good arm to play the position now. Mentally is what. I want to know. Because i think so. Much of that position is about the mental approach. How you prepare how you process information in real time. What happens after an interception what happens in a two minute drill like those are the things that are so important to you being one of the greats of all time if you look at all of these players that we talk about greats of all time you know montana leads that two minute drive against the bengals hits john taylor for the touchdown pass they use jerry rice's a decoy elway with his great drives that he would have to get into the super bowl like those moments that you have where you go. He's going to win the game. He is winning again. I don't know how you factor in greatness there as far as boy. He's got that it's when it happens. You see it. you realize it. And they're very few. Quarterbacks are on that list that make it look easy. And rogers is right there with every one of those quarterbacks if not better than our here's another stat who has the most forty plus. Td seasons as a quarterback. I'm gonna give you four names. Drew brees peyton manning. Tom brady aaron rodgers. The most forty plus touchdown thrown seasons as a quarterback. What's the name you would. I guess i'm not going to give you the name. I'd i guess i would say. Drew brees yes mclovin. I would say the way polly setting it up and he clearly on an era rogers kicked this morning. It's aaron rodgers. that's polly's okay. I usually come a trick questions that back my point. Aaron rodgers has three forty plus touchdown seasons drew. Brees peyton manning. And tom brady each have to okay but somehow others are chosen as the best step. One now considered the new rogers like. He's the most the best. Most talented quarterback where rogers used to be the most talented in a funny way. But rogers is your mvp right. I'm saying like mahomes has had like that arm talent or whatever you were talking about like the homes can do anything rodgers can do. Rogers said ten more touchdown passes than patrick mahomes this year right but this seems to be a everyone thinks mahomes is so talented though because he is crazy thing no he is he is he plays the position the way rogers has played the position and he can take it to another level me. Mahomes can be greater than aaron rodgers when it's all said and done coming up new head coach at texas steve sarkisian michelle tavoy work in the sidelines for brady brees sunday. Night tony boselli on the jags and michael wilbon stops by one more item in the first hour. It's discovering discover. Something amazing discover matches all the cash. Back you earn on your credit card at the end of your first automatically no limit on how much you can earn amazing. Is that in fact. It's even more amazing. Because of all the places where discovers accepted over ninety nine percent of the places in the united states take credit cards. 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That's SimpliSafe dot com slash I take for the home security. I trust. Simplisafe dot com slash. I think what's going on. I take them. Make sure chickens at weekdays today, Mr. into noon on ESPN ahead on today's show. Lebron passes MJ I score and milestone, but isn't making excuses for the Lakers. And as Carla Murray were at the top pick in the NFL draft, plus all access with the world champs, David price in just come in. Does join us from Red Sox spring chaining. Let's get started. What's going on everybody? Welcome into I take on this. What max? It's friday. Max a Friday go he should take your wife out for drinks tonight. But that idea of Friday eve as my life about five percent veterans good five percent, contributing to society. Jalen rose in the building. You always out in LA. How failing doing what's going on what? Good. We're good with good. We ready to do this. All right. Lebron James out another milestone to his resume passing his childhood idol. Go Michael Jordan on the all time scoring list last night against the nuggets James moves into fourth on the scoring list. Lebron what is this? The compliment means to you. We're here from Akron, Ohio that dead inspiration. And. Needed some type of. Positive influence. MJ was that guy for me? I wash him from afar. Wanted to be like MJ born to shoot fadeaways like MJ onto to stick my tongue dunks like MJ wanted to wear my sneakers like m j. I wanna kid to look up to me at some point like MJ and. There's this. This is crazy to be honest. I don't. Is beyond crazy. And he did all that Steven what did LeBron passing MJ mean last night? Well, it just cements. The fact of what we already know that he's one of the greatest ever, and we just can't take that away from him. And it should elevate our preciado for him even more. So because this guy was a superstar since he was a teenager and the expectations were the expectations and in a lot of respects, not only, you know, just a chief of he exceeded expectations. When you think about the career that he's had about the only thing you can't say about him is that he's he he is an m jet and for him to pass him Jay in and to give kudos, and and respect to pay Amish MJ waited he did I thought it was incredibly appropriate because you know, he's speaking as a kid from Akron, Ohio. Let's be very clear and J-League could speak to this. He's a black kid from Akron, Ohio. And when you're growing up in any in the city, the odds are stacked against you. Which is something that LeBron James's alluded to on many occasions. Yes. Yeah. You saw magic and the smiling you saw America embrace magic. But it was a cystic by his relationship with Larry Bird. And so Evan ivory. And all that stuff that made you more sellable, more, marketable, etc. Etc. M J was on his own his athleticism the greatness, his competitive fervor the trials and tribulations. He had to endure an overcome to get to the heights that he ultimately reached doing so with Stahl with flair with a lot of grace along the way as well. These are the kind of things that as a young black kid you saw growing up that made you wanna be him his athleticism. Sure, but the wardrobe stuff and everything else in between the fact that Madison Avenue and beyond embraced him and allowed that individual that black kid who used to wear Nike warm up suits on the bench for the Chicago Bulls when he was hurt coming out of North Carolina too. See him transition to win those fly suits. And what have you all of that had an impact? Jalen rose spoke about this a month ago when he was talking about himself in the fab five in a baggy shorts or what have you and how that ultimately impacted a generation of our youth? Those are the conduct things that LeBron James was alluding to in being grateful to Michael Jordan because Michael Jordan gave him the inspiration to be everything. He has now become today, and I really really appreciated hearing him say that in articulating those thoughts because it's true for a lot of us. And a lot of different ways about before. It was doctor Jay, then it was Michael Jordan, and some days going to be LeBron James that impacts a whole bunch of people if he isn't doing so all ready, obviously. It's amazing accomplishment. Congratulations to LeBron James, boy, I hate to be this guy. I really do. Because if I heard someone say this on this day, and I'm watching TV at home like shut all the way up just congratulate. At the dude. But we're here to talk about this stuff right now. Like, what does this mean? This is the consolation prize. Kobe got it to the not gonna catch him with championships. They're not as great as MJ. They're lesser play. They're amazing, but they both aimed for Jordan. Kobe war twenty four should've worn twenty two and LeBron should've worn twenty two. Maybe Kobe should've worn twenty one. I mean, like Jordan better than those guys. They aimed for forum. Congratulations for aiming as high as you possibly can the pursuit is noble, y'all almost got there. But these consolation prize, I mean and people celebrate it almost as recognition of that. Michael Jordan was about scoring, but it wasn't about his compilation of the scoring the career scoring totals Jordan missed most of the second season when he broke his foot in back and gave the Celtics Sixty-three points at Boston Garden in the playoffs after averaging twenty eight points and six and a half six almost six boards, two and a half. Sorry, almost a steal and like almost a block and like two and a half years. Rookie a twenty one year old rookie they missed most of the season. He was out for most of two seasons. When he retired the first time three seasons when he retired a second time even a little piece of that fourth season. So really Jordan played in fourteen years. But would you add it all up it's barely over thirteen seasons? And he's that on the list because he averaged thirty points a game he has the all time scoring average. That's the real Jordan record. But I do want to say the and so like pass them on the scoring list. That's fine. That's not what Jordan is about the career scoring totals. It's about the scoring average. If you wanna talk about him as a score, especially in an environment in the second half Jordan's grid was tough to score points. But I do want to say this the first modern players if you define modern as as a three point shot absorption of the ABA teams in the NBA anywhere. You wanna talk about modern NBA, the great the first greatest modern players were magic and bird bird, magic, whatever. Where do you wanna put them in? They were the first great ones. They ushered in the modern era, really joy. Jordan was the greatest modern player and since Jordan, and I brought this up in the past. There's the literary critic named Harold bloom. We talks about Shakespeare in the exile of influence every writer after Shakespeare because you know, what came before you has the anxiety of being influenced by Shakespeare, how can you ever get better than that? Kobe Bryant's great example, he is still in the modern era because he was trying to be like Mike just like the rest of the world and copay just about got there. The thing that impresses me about LeBron's not the scoring. It's that he's the greatest player of the post modern era. Meaning he's the first super duper star. Who wasn't a big to come along and say, I'm not just trying to do 'em. Jay, I'm doing me. It's a new thing. That's why I look like magic and Jay had a baby. And it's this kid LeBron James. So so the scoring is great for anyone else that would be a career milestone for LeBron. I don't I know it's important to him and good for him. But to me that's not his significance. The fact that he can score. He's just so. Great. He can't help it. It's that he is the gr- the first post modern player the first best of the best to come along and say, then escaped the anxiety of influence. I'm not just Jordan. I'm something new ten minutes into the show. I'm gonna tell you. What makes LeBron James unique is because he's the only player in the history of the NBA not only be in the top ten in scoring what also in assists. That's a distinction between here. Michael, jordan. Who's obviously a deadly score. Michael Jordan, provided a blueprint for LeBron James that he just followed. And that's what you hope from the people that you idolize. And that's why sometimes they say never meet your heroes because that person may not be who you thought they were. So what did he adopt the number twenty three the Potter toss? He's a Nike embassador. He's a mobile. He's playing in the last time I checked he's even redoing Space Jam Mike, literally, he just followed it nj footsteps on it off the floor and took that blue. And became something special. But here's also what makes them different Michael Jordan didn't have a political voice. He wasn't socially able to not only play basketball, but being influence in the community and LeBron James as a modern day player and a superstar continued to break those barriers. Unlike Michael Jordan who bought away as a Detroit native I have rooted against him as entire career because I was a bad boy fan. But there was never any denying. The MJ was the goat and max alluded to this as well. He missed two seasons in his prime. We talk about LeBron having three championships. And that's wonderful. Michael Jordan had three championships that he won twice any missed two years in the middle. Now look at those scoring averages. One averages thirty the other averages twenty seven if MJ plays those two years that's about four thousand more points on his numbers. How about that for greatness? By the way, he average thirty even with those bad wizard seasons at the end. That's the crazy thing about J when people call him, the great I'll call him the greatest the peak we've already seen LeBron's peak and we've seen MJ's peak we've seen we'll everybody's peak Jordan highest peak of all time, according to every single way you can measure that his arguments already over. So the only way that that LeBron or whoever can try and catch MJ is in career in longevity. If he wins another championship if he does things that Jordan, and I think also Jalen point Stephen about LeBron's voice off the field of play. And the fact that he's been active, Michael, Jordan, Stephen as you often give him credit for did things quietly behind the scenes, but publicly made comments that made people think, well, wait a minute. Are you willing to take a stand and LeBron has been definitive about the stances? He's taken a different time. No. And I'm never gonna I'm never going to chart Michael Jordan to the degree that some people do for that. Because Michael Jordan people. Set things they set the stage for other things think about the folks who follow the fab five what made the fat five special was because they did things they were renegades. They did things that others ultimately followed. You've got to crawl before you walk when you think about Madison Avenue when you think about corporate America and the willingness to ingratiate yourself offer them to ingratiate allow you to ingratiate with them to position yourself to make some money and and be a global icon. Ick figure yesterday, it was the assistance of the NBA, obviously Nike and others. But the fact of the matter is you had to be that kind of special individual way, max color, you've often brought up branch Rickey who was the owner of the dodgers who brought on Jackie Robinson to integrate baseball. Well, there were baseball players that will arguably better than Jackie Robinson. But Jackie Robinson, temperament his demeanor combined with his game made him the ideal choice for. Branch Rickey to utilize to ingrate to integrate baseball because he knew that some of the dudes wouldn't be able to take the vitriol aimed in their direction. So when we talk about LeBron James and his willingness to open his mouth and the speak out on issues, absolutely, positively. He should be applauded. But what set the stage was the Magics and the Michaels an MJ's of the world who basically preceded him and set the path that he could ultimately FAO follow and springboard to another level. We can't forget that historically that has always been the case. Yeah. And I think you alluded to that. And that he followed his blueprint except the difference with LeBron was the social activism. All right. Well, keep it moving here. And we'll focus on the Lakers, but different player guys Rajon Rondo took some heat for not sitting with his Lakers came as on the bench preferring to rock stole. Oh, rondo. Like, maybe eight ten times this year. I don't know as a big deal now. Steve knife. What's your reaction to Rondo? Well, it speaks to the just. The state of affairs evolve in the Los Angeles Lakers being in their Rena. Jalen max, I gotta tell you. It's just uncomfortable abroad. And there was times when he was getting booed. He started off the game fort straight free throws. They're the worst free throw shooting team in the NBA and everybody in their renew that so they were definitely turned off by that ultimately. Although they ultimately stood up in applauded him. When he broke MJ's all time scoring record. We have to look at it. From that perspective. We have to think about the Los Angeles, Lakers and terms of the dysfunctionality has been raking through this franchise, Luke Walton and Bryan Bryan chore knows boys and the coaching staff looking over Iran clearly uncomfortable with him selecting the sit over there away from the team. Whether he's done it before. And he has done it before is relevant. The fact that the Matt is getting looked unprofessional. It looked disrespectful and he clearly did not care. And clearly they did. So it was made to be uncomfortable in that regard. You're also hearing stuff about Brandon Ingram and how his daddy has been. Speaking up and speaking out and Brandon Ingram is not happy at all with what's been going on with this team. They're not happy with the front office. You're hearing noise about rob Pelinka and Magic Johnson not necessarily being on the same place. Magic. It's got a lot of respect for rob Pelinka. He doesn't appear to have any problem with it. But people are talking behi- rob Pelinka's back saying that he's in the facilities all the time. Just asking folks, did you see magic have you seen magic around just to bring attention to the fact that magic is it. They all the time. You obviously, see what's been taking place on the basketball court everywhere. You turn you're seeing this stuff this directors and producers to in courtside looking at me saying Stephen is this man, LeBron here the play basketball was he here to go. Hollywood. Does he even care if he doesn't win another championship? Or is he really about being here for the movies? And all of that stuff was going on with this guy. They know he's averaging twenty seven the night. They don't care. They're looking at this team. And they're starting to look at everybody from magic on down and last, but not least genie, busted and help matters. The wonderful genie was officer. And I had the pleasure of talking to the other day. I didn't have a problem with our and our comments about fake news. I mean, obviously, you don't wanna do that. But as a favor just walked over to her to talk to her about that. But I can assure you there's reporters in LA that have covered this team for years that were highly offended by what she said because they felt they have spent years given a fair shake, so everywhere you turn God's it's chaos. It is not good. It's a pretty ugly situation as it pertains to the fan base. And how they feel about these Lakers at what makes it bad as that lebrons air if he wasn't here. You can just look at the roster. But the fact that he's here, and we've been saying the things that we have been saying nobody is safe right now, I'm talking about from the fans wrath. Nobody is safe and that may include. Johnson before all the set of done unless he does something about this quick Vasan in Ari. No, I the clippers are considered right now, a more attractive destination. You hear the whispers than the Lakers either ship, Jerry West greatest executive by foreign history of basketball or anyone says it's not a coincidence wherever he shows up you get dominant dynasties starting with the Lakers after he was a player. And then even Memphis comes a playoff team comes back to the Lakers. They start winning championships again goes to Golden State, right? Put his body in front of a Kevin love for Klay Thompson deal. They become the dominant team. Now, he's at the clipper about against them superstars. It looks like and they're they're healthy and playing well, it's not as easy as people think like rob Pelinka Magic Johnson. Why is Rondo sitting by himself? You know off to the side. First of all Rondos on a one year deal. Right. So we're all the veterans basically on one year deals. The young players. They know that they can be traded. If if there's a real star available because they already tried to treat every single good young player. They had for Anthony Davis. It's not so easy to do this. Well, let's just clear cap space and sign the greets, right? You have to have the right environment to do. So. So when you look at Jerry West, how do you wind up with shacking Kobe after he'd already put that team together in the past? How do you want end up with shacking Kobe, even right? He had it's not like they just stunk every year he had a good fun fast competitive team Eddie Jones and those guys right, but they weren't tied into bad long-term deals. So it was an attractive place to play. It was still kind of Showtime. He sees. Okay. That's gonna be free agent. We're going to clear the decks make sure we got money for that do when he's ready. The money was ready to go. Get shack. Kobe that dude in the draft. We're going to do whatever it takes to get this kid out of high school. We're gonna Jerry West running around. This guy's gonna be the greatest player ever. And they make any makes that happen. It's not. So what the Lakers are they sign. Lebron James, and I said very clever what we're going to do now is trying to develop the. Young kids and signs some veterans, and even if it's misguided about not having shooting they'll have play makers will put him on one year deals. So we don't have cap space problems. But if you don't manage that and balance that carefully because that's delicate what you have is a bunch of veterans who are not vested long-term because they're on short deals and a bunch of young players who may not be invested either. Because they know they can be traded. But they will be traded all of them if the right guy becomes available. And so you have a fractured team with one of the guys who's like, a brilliant brilliant guy in Rondo on the floor is a great playoff performer sitting off by himself. That's what happens in NBA circles will resign Rondo did actually has a term it's called a silent protest. He's basically exposing this score that takes place behind the scenes, and he's bringing it out for public consumption. So now we can talk about what's really going on with their team. And now we're going to assess Blaine from top to bottom for a team that has not met. Expectations and everybody's going to deserve their share blame here. I'm gonna be a guy that I noticed there's going to blame the players. Here's what when you look at the Los Angeles Lakers roster unless we over inflate their young talent. And some of the teams that are ahead of them in the standings. I challenge people to say is there young talent better than what we see currently on the clippers. What we see on the Spurs. What we see on the timber wolves. These are the teams that are ahead of them in the standings. I think yes, the Anthony Davis did cause a disrupt the Anthony Davis trade talks did cause a disruption in the locker room. But when you look at having who max caused the best player in the game. Lebron James, and I know he deserves to be in that conversation usually have in that guy makes you a playoff team. Okay. Coups medi-share, take a leap this year and show that he had what it takes to be a prolific scorer in the game. So that Brandon Ingram. They're clearly missing Lonzo ball. Who will never live up to the expectation set to him? However, he is a productive young player same with heart. So now, why is this in a position that it is it hasn't bought into the team first concept? What happens is when you bring in as max talked about guys vets or one year deals, and then you have a bunch of rookie deal players. Now, all of a sudden you look around and say who's going to be here next year, low brand, he's the only one that's why he's the only one truly invested which is why you see the fracture. And now you see a t there's not gonna make the playoffs as I figured they would barely make it anyway. But I did not predicted. This will happen, by the way, maybe Oiseaux they're five and thirteen without Lonzo. Maybe Lonzo thinks he's to be to the only thing that I would say Jalen is that they knew that coming into the season they knew who had one year deals. They knew what they were signing off for. And they were veterans along the way they developed mcgee's Rondos of the world, even Michael Beasley. Lesser degree before he ended up being let go because you know, he was kinda disrespectful towards the staff and some in at least, according to them, according to folks within the Lakers organization, no matter which way, you look at it. No one was oblivious to the situation that existed. And so even though I understand what you're saying for you to be if they were young players one year deals that would be one thing. But to be veterans fully aware of what they signed on for for it to disintegrate to this point. I'm not going to just look at the place. I'm not absolving them. But I won't just look at them. We're going to look at the coaching staff because magic complain about them early on in the season for a reason. And I'm also going to look at some of the moves that were made and some of the moves that were made Zubov came the other day Jalen when they played the clippers Monday night. All you should've seen all the players running over to him to give him a hog day didn't want this guy gone. He's twenty one years old seven feet and Obama way he was their best free throw shooter at eighty eight percent. But you move him for Mike move scholar who can't play Jalen, why don't you just retired from ESPN put on a Laker jersey and go play 'cause you do a better job to him. I'm telling you right now he can't play. He can't play. Definitely we talking about this. Jalen is math, though, if you're not counting by threes. And today's NBA you are not going to win. So everything we just said if they had some shooting they probably still be in the playoffs. The bottom line is Ronald and shoot the three. Lonzo shoots the three England or shoot two three. Who's only shooting about thirty two percent that ain't going to get done that needs. You don't actually shoot it. Well, none of their five shoot the three. I just mentioned every single player on the team that gets real minutes except for LeBron. So if you're not gonna make free throws that are worst free throw shooting team in the league. And I don't think LeBron has ever shot worse from the free throw line as he has this year. He needed to hire Damon Jones to come to LA with him because he can't hit free. Throws days players are responsible for policing themselves. Pills and for the locker room. There's only so much a coach can do. Yes. You're going to have those Alfa coaches like pop or air exposure who probably went went down there and grab John Rondo buys jersey. And they would have got into it on the sideline. It's a couple of guys that have Jerry town would have had it removed. No question about their certain guys that have that level of Tani, but the leadership and the media always thinks that it's one person and wrongly thinks that that that leader is the best player when that isn't always the case normally there couple of leaders on a team at different points of their careers that are invested in. What happens however, win the players on the squad. See guys that are supposed to be the leaders not making the lesser sery- sacrifices. You can't now put me in check about my defensive incitement, you can't put me check about being on my phone all of the time. You can't put me check when you showing up at the game with a glass of wine and your hand when young people see. That is like, okay, cool. He's able to get away with it. And they don't think that they can do what he can do. And they came do LeBron James can do because he's an iconic player. He's proven to be a champion. He's proven to be a good leader. I put this on the players as you say, Stephen they knew what they were signing up for they're not making a necessary sacrifices in order, but his team to meet is goes, hey, it's Dan Patrick here to tell you about the Dan Patrick school. The sportscasting teamed up with full sail university to create a sports casting bachelor's degree you work both on and behind the cameras and you build skills for the future of sports. So you can connect with audiences. No matter where they are or how they're tuning in learn more about full sail. Universities, Dan, Patrick school sportscasting by going to full sail dot EDU slash ESPN. Sportscenter right now, I'm on the Collins on Wednesday, former NFL GM and current NFL network analyst, Charley Casserly offered more of a negative feedback. You received about Oklahoma quarterback collar Mary from the NFL. Combine Casserly reiterating on one. Oh, six point seven FM in DC quote. I talked to multiple teams in the interview wasn't very good. The board work where you test. The guy in his book knowledge is no John scheme and potential thinks. He's seen in the NFL was not very good. At all seems like he's an instinct of reactive flare. I don't know if you'd call it street football. But obviously he's very good at it later in the day Mary's from her coach Lincoln Riley responding to Castro. These comments. To me. It's always seem strange you go on deal and see your sources number one. And then you're going to go on and talk like you're an expert about somebody that you've never met. You've never talked to his position coach or head coach at any level about him. And you've never talked to any player that's played with the guy about how leads but now we're going to be an expert on how he leads. For more on that back to I take. Tony. Thank you Cuyler Murray's former coach coming to his defense after Turley Castro as infamous comments about the Heisman Trophy winner from the NFL. Combine it's about time. We got Marcus spears out here. It's good to have you on set. Without you, Stephen to start with you. There's Riley's defensive Murray changer Pinon at all whatsoever. In terms of what I don't understand what you mean, does it change my opinion at all doesn't change your your opinion in terms of how you felt about I guess Lincoln Riley when we discussed it yesterday or how or how you felt about Cuyler Murray, or Charley Casserly hunter that clip. Right there that we just showed of they just showed of Lincoln Riley. I had no problem with it. I thought that his interview with Dan, Patrick, I thought his response was a bit tepid in two soft for my liking the fact of the matter is to dismiss it by saying, well, you know, what I disagree with it. But you know, what is that Tom of the year? That's how this goes. That's how he came across initially on the Dan Patrick interview as opposed to what we just saw. That was my problem with Lincoln Riley. I've found that response more acceptable. Because again, Charley Casserly had. Spoken to the coaches, the positional coaches the head coach to column Murray himself, and I'm just going to be very very Frank. I'm still ticked off about it. I'm still took about two chains approach me last night at the games hollering at me about what I say yesterday. I'm telling you right now it made me sick to my stomach. Here's a kid. You had questions about his height. That was answered you had questions about his weight that was hand that was answered questions about his aunt sauce. That was hand that was that was handle. Obviously you have any questions about his game. He completed sixty nine percents of his passes. Most of them in a pocket. He threw for over forty three hundred yards. He threw forty two touchdowns and just seven interceptions. And by the way, he ran for thousand yards, and you got people comparing his running ability to that of Michael Vick in Michael vick's heyday. And then what do we come with? Oh, he's not studying, you know, his film work is questionable his work ethic and leadership is questionable. I mean, you can call that code word, or whatever the case may be you could call it you call it. Stomach rates as of the be quite honest with you. I'm not accusing Charley Casserly of feeling that way. I'm saying what he are ticketed with that damn offensive. You're GM and awash in Washington you wanna Super Bowl the nineteen thousand nine hundred ninety one but the last eleven years as an executive you're made the playoffs twice. You drafted David Karp. And because of a few words from some anonymous we punk scout on Fisher for an NFL team. Who's gonna talk about this kid behind his back clearly trying to sabotage them. You're going to go on the Airways and speak in sadly in vehemently, as if you have first hand knowledge about the denigrating words that you said about this young man, I think I think it's a grievous. I think it's unfair. I think topic shade was right? When he talked about it was a bit too hard. There's several ways he could accounted. He could have said this is what they tell me. But I'm telling you look at his body of work. But this is what they're saying. So he might. Need to be mindful. He could have backed it up by saying there's no justification according to what we've seen. But this is what they're saying. He did not have that. And that is my problem with him and anybody who thinks that what Charlie Kathleen had to say was okay, cause it ain't. Okay. Well to me it depends whether or not it's true, whether it makes it, okay? Let me start by saying this. Yeah. Let me start by saying this tape is the most important thing on a guy. Like what you do. How do you play and reason Cuyler Murray is going to go number one is because he boiled, you know, and he he was accurate because throw the ball down the field. He could run. He can he could work that offense. Just like the last guy could work that offense who also number one in bold out in the pros, his personality little different Baker Mayfield more demonstrative, but let's not forget there was questions about Baker Mayfield leadership also coming out of college because he was overly demonstrative at times and made some questionable calls in terms of sportsmanship things like that that Lincoln Riley had to kind of sit there with Baker Mayfield Nancy for the let me say this. I understand what you mean about. These racist tropes. That are getting brought up again, you know. And it's been said about a black players and quarterbacks in particular. I mean, the reason lack meant were stopped from being quarterback for so long was this idea that they couldn't lead that they weren't cerebral enough. All these kind of buzzwords that you're now you're now hearing attached to Kyle Murray and next we're gonna hear he's not buoyant enough to play quarterback. Right. So I understand why why you get your you. Get your dander up about it, Stephen because before you make a kind of character assassination public. You should be very very careful the man's reputation. Particularly when some of those character assassination touches on those kind of racist tropes that I just discussed. So I understand that on the other hand if and it's lying season as Damian what he talked about on the Cain talked about it. This is the time where you can't. He's big enough. Now, he's strong enough. Like all the measurable Zorin. Yeah. He checks off. How can we drop his draft stock? So we can maybe get him. Oh, we'll we'll go. After his reputation if that's going on. That's just obviously, no good. But we know it happens. Let me just say this, though, when I hear that I do wanna know more. I wanna know more. I want to know if there is truth in it because what we have found throughout the history of the NFL is quarterbacks. Got to study got to lead got to do those things if they want long-term success. So it's not that. I'm ready to take it as gospel. And I recognize how responsible you have to be how carefully you have to consider saying those things before you make it public. I do wanna know more having heard it is that you want to know more max. But here's my problem with the whole situation. Trolley Casserly Nokkala Murray, and everything you just mentioned about what column or has done shows that he has a propensity for leadership shows that he knows how to re coverages and shows that he knows board work. What was the whole over lining factor? This year when we were talking about coaches that were hot on the next level Lincoln Riley name came up time and time again. About going to the next level and being able to have success. You know, what that tells me he's a coach that is tough to go with his offense scheme and have success and column was able to do it not only at because we forget calamari was exam as well. We Kevin some getting a little spare time almost nipping at the hills to have the starring role that takes them goes to Oklahoma City here behind Baker Mayfield and calms and runs the offense more effectively the Baker Mayfield did and then Charley Casserly has the nerve. And the goal to come out and say this about a kid that he's never one time at a compensation with I'm gonna tell you guys this. I am not going to have a conversation with max Kellerman or Stephen or Molly about you guys. When I have access to you, Charley Casserly could've talked to column Murray on his own. He coulda formulated if column or knew what the hell he was doing as a football player on his own. But to come out publicly to your point Stephen and say this about this kid in this process of the draft a MO four critiquing football play a more for critiquing. Hi, I'm critiquing hands is because that's on the field. But when you attack a kid personally, and you have the ability to get close to him. And actually know if these things are true or not and for you to make a statement like that he's totally out of line is disrespectful. And it does play into the black quarterback affect let me tell you this market. Here's the thing. Charley Casserly also had the ability to talk to somebody Oklahoma coaches. It's what you do for live. This plenty of times that we have to talk about an athlete that we didn't talk to like something happens is breaking news, you or you don't have the proper level of access to that individual because you gotta go through channels to get to them, etc. Etc. But this no problem for Charley Casserly to pick up the phone and get Lincoln Riley, or one of those positional coaches. I'd have more perspectives position. If he had said, I'll Cording to what I'm hearing from members of the staff because again, they would coach him. He didn't even say that you went to the scout in combat and this man shows up, and then all of a sudden you're saying this about by. But the way you're saying about him. But for the men got his money. This is the kind of stuff that's going directly impact. Now, you wanna talk about a black. You want to really get role with this and start talking about the black white dynamic. Well, let's get right to it. We're. Talking about a young black man here that who's draft stock you cook potentially influence with these words that could potentially cost them millions, and you would say stuff so emphatically demonstrative -ly, as if you know first hand, you didn't sit up there. And remember this morning as he brought up Baker Mayfield. He sat up there and said, well, this guy I mean, it's worse than Baker Mayfield. Or whatever. Really when you talk about leadership when you talk about and I don't mean to not Baker Mayfield because he's overcome a lot. I'm proud of him. I wish nothing, but the best, but Charley Casserly brought him off up as if to say excuse me, these questions about board work, and leadership and all this other stuff. Oh, it was more of a question with column Murray than Baker Mayfield. You guys a lot more about this. But we've run out of time. And fortunately. You get the last word markets and even further to that point guys. We actually saw the antics of Baker Mayfield for four justifiably. So for a guy like Charlie Casserly to say. The thing about that. I just wanna say this Ryan leaf Peyton Manning. Now, I'm not pretending that you can separate out racing. We shouldn't have extra sensitivity. We should. However, if there was information available at the time that wasn't reported. Let's say about Ryan leaf who clearly didn't have the stuff admitted it in recent years. Good for him turned his life around that Peyton Manning had right? You would want to know that information. And so when you hear something like this about a guy, it's reckless if it's not true because you're damaging his reputation, but I do want to know more and national question from the fan go that's apart. From the fact that I realized that extra reckless went talking about a black quarterback because it touches on the racist themes that in my last Glassman from being back in the last question for the segment, I got nothing else to say max, I just want an answer. To this question. If column Murray was white, Charley Casserly say street ball. That's a good question. But if he were white and they were saying this about him. I would want to know just the same. And I think I'd be a little less sensitive to the damage to his rep Manny, I'm naturally, I'm not knocking you for wanting to know more that's legitimate. But the problem is Baker Mayfield gave you all of the things that you talking about and still went away kind of no. No. The rags on this out. We got on. I two. Geico presents eyewitness interviews with inanimate objects. This is Brian Bruno live on the scene of a recent windstorm here to describe the event a chest of drawers, there's a storm howling outside. So I thought I'd stay in watch around com. Five minutes into the flick a tree ranch slams through the window. Where are you hurt? I just gotta scratch on my chest. Your chest of drawers can't help you in a windstorm. But the geiko insurance agency can help you get covered for personal property damage. Co gyco to see how a forcible homeowners insurance can be. As VSBN's Red Sox all access coverage. We welcome in Olympic gold. Medalist baseball analysts in new advisor to the New York. Mets give it up or Jessica does. Jess. Got a lot of gangqi fans over there. I don't know. It was a slow clap. No. It'd be like the Mets fan at the Yankee game. Like this him don't worry about it. We're just mad at you that you're out there in that sunshine, where we're freezing here in New York City, but just an all fish think we have the all access going on with the Red Sox. So that's where I want to start. What are your biggest takeaways from the defending world champs right now? You know, I think the biggest thing first of all the all access piece has been awesome. I got report sell right behind me. We're going to go through a workout when a jump in the bullpen during the game and be all to kind of walk through the process of pitchers being able to get in there. But I think the biggest thing right now is I watched Alex Cora and how he handles this. I mean every year, right? We go to the defending champs. We get to spring training. How can they be able to repeat what is the objective and Cora is? Even keeled. I mean, he's like the target is on our back and embracing and it's an away this just so core. Just so laid back so cool and just kind of feel that from his guys is. Yeah, they're good. I'd say everything but the bullpen. That's the one piece that I'm concerned about. But this team has so much talent so much confidence. And the fact that they're letting us come in all day right now is just showing how back they are. Just go now onto a much more important franchise the most famous and by far most successful franchises in the history of American team sports clearly in baseball, the New York Yankees Luis Severino who has choked under pressure in the postseason. But nevertheless, there ace with amazing stuff has right shoulder issue. The Yankees are talking about starting with an opener instead of a closer, my friend, Brian Kenny Kenny on MLB network talks about this all the time and opener instead of starting with a starter having someone who's normally out of the bullpen pitch. A couple innings and doing bullpen by committee out after that. What are your thoughts about the opener? This is on where the future is headed. Whether you like it or not. I mean, my thoughts are that with analytics with everything and how pitchers especially starters, even when they do start the game. Sometimes we're looking at two or three innings because it's about matchups. It's about who they're facing and how their arms matchup against every everyone else. So to me, and we saw with the bruise on the postseason, right? We might comes out. He comes out for one batter then comes out of the game. And he was a starter for one batter. I mean, I get it. So many people are cringing they don't like this. They don't want it. It's not good for the game. Doesn't matter. This is happening. This is real. And it's not just the gang keys. It's not just two or three teams. I believe that we're gonna see especially the next three years. More teams just utilize pitchers and certain situations unless the rules change instead of having a guy that goes out and throws five six seven innings. We're going to see someone that just opens. And then someone that's like your middle, dude. And someone that comes in for a batter and you'll see seven eight pitchers in a game. Just go. Once again, congratulations all the best to you. I don't know how much you're going to help the Mets because they beating they're not winning this year. I'm telling you that right now, just but I will debate on this. We'll have we will have a it. I'm just playing seriously your partner on on Sunday night baseball. Alex Rodriguez was being interviewed on sportscenter yesterday. And he was asked about the whole Bryce Harper recruitment of Mike trout, and whether or not he had a problem with it. Because obviously major league baseball felt the need to talk to the Phillies after the angels complain about Bryce Harper. Bring it up Mike trout pursuit of him in a couple of years. I want an Alex said baseball has to get with the program. We've got to make sure that ingratiate ourselves with the younger generation. And these kind of things are things that we should look forward to support it. And we shouldn't have a problem with them. What are your thoughts about that whole situation? Absolutely. I mean, I'm on board with just like guys being real, right? It's amazing. How bag these players to be more themselves to be more literally? Just let us, Dan. Like, let us know. Exactly. What you're thinking what you're feeling? And of course, Bryce Harper saying this is Philly, dude. Trout wants to be in Philly. I'm gonna scream this from the rooftops to get my dude on the west coast out here with me. So we can win more games. Like if that's how you feel. Let him be him. Because then what happens is Harper goes back into shell. And we don't get to see that personality. We don't get to see who he is. And to me, it's ridiculous. Like, I mean, what guy doesn't want the best player to join him in the fact that MLB has to say, you know, what this is tampering. We can't do this. Let me slap your hand. Make sure you're quiet. But hey, we do want more personality, and we need a little bit more from you. You know to be able to get more attention that to me is ridiculous. Like let these guys be who they are. And unless they're going out and breaking the law. Let them be. Who they want say what they really feel Jessica the dodgers remind me of the Red Sox from fifteen years ago playing money ball with money, right? So analytically driven such a huge payroll and yet they haven't been able to get over the hump and win a World Series. And you and I have talked about it. Clayton Kershaw also has used as almost always been a lesser version of himself when they need them to be his just his normal, south, right? What are the dodgers doing again over the hump? What are you expecting from them? You know, I'd like to see them understand their team into roles because they are great in the regular season. I would go out and say there is no better regular season team in the last five years than the Los Angeles Dodgers. And I'm saying that over your Yankees over the Red Sox. I get it. They won more games. But to me the dodgers have proven time and time again that they can throughout the regular season. Be that team with depth be the team that can platoon be the team that could fix a whole and any time any position bring guys up do all of it. But postseason time comes they can't be that team. They can't be the team depth to me that doesn't mean anything you want your nine dudes on the field that you know, I hit two home run today. I'm playing tomorrow that I've earned this spot in the postseason. We're writing with these guys I get it. If someone goes down, you have someone to come in and pick you up, but what I've seen from the dodgers last two years in the postseason is doubt is honesty frustration is that feeling of. Hey, you know, what I put out everything that I have. But because we're switching around. And I know that I might not play tomorrow. Why am I giving you my all and it's hard for players now. Maybe back in the day that might have worked but players now they want to know, I am the dude. And you're going with me, no matter what. And I love the daughters on the regular season and what they can do. But they need to be able to have two faces two understandings of who made need to be in the postseason. It's gotta chain. Yeah. A different mindset with today's athlete. Jess. Oh, great to have you with us. Thank you for the insight. Enjoy spring training. And of course, max Stephen a hell plenty of advice for you with your new role within that we're getting into I'm coming to New York. We're doing this trade the Graham to the Yankees. We're not scared. Ignore him.

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Dan Patrick Show - Hour 2 - (01-16-19)

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Dan Patrick Show - Hour 2 - (01-16-19)

"It's all about me. Dan, Patrick gas. There is more where that came from click back for new episodes all week, log broadcasting from the Mercedes men cake. This is Dan Patrick welcome to the program. Our two on this Wednesday, Dan in the danettes, Dan Patrick show spent some time talking about Cuyler Murray and his big decision coming up. I read to you some. Opinions that I got from an NFL scout yesterday on Cuyler Murray. I asked him if he would take Tyler Murray with the first round pick. And he said he would not he said that he's really small and eventually you're going to have to win from the pocket and the pocket is different in the NFL. Then in college. It's more spread out in college. The hash marks make it. It's a wider open offense there even though you've had drew Brees with success in Russell Wilson. This scout said that he would not take Cuyler Murray. We talked to Jeff passan for the mothership. Who is they're great baseball writer, and he said that Oakland's going to go all in they're gonna make a try to blow you away deal for Cuyler Murray. I would not I just want to know if you wanna play if you wanna play you tell me you wanna play all sweeten the deal. But if money is going to buy your passion here, then I have a real problem with that. And if he wants to play in the NFL, you're going to need to have the same kind of. But got a couple of weeks. He's supposed to report February fifteenth to the Oakland A's with training camp. So a little bit of time after the Super Bowl there, but some drama coming our way the eagles all in on Carson Wentz. And it looks like Nick foles will be sort of free to find another landing spot. What are you going to give up for Nick foles? Will he buy out his contract two million dollars to be a free agent, which is what I would do because then you got a chance to sign a four or five year deal. You're thirty years of age, and maybe you could relocate to Washington or Jacksonville. There's going to be there's gonna be some opportunities therefore, but these teams these same teams that are looking at Nick foles or Joe flacco or also looking at Cuyler Murray and Dwayne Haskins. So there's going to be, you know, little game that's played here of are we going with the established guy who's won Super Bowls in foles and flacco. Or you're gonna take a chance on Haskins out of Ohio State or Cuyler Murray? Yes, polling how much tougher. Would this announcement of Ben by the eagles Doug Peterson? If all Sean Jeffrey caught that ball. They scored a touchdown and beat the saints at the saints. How much well they wouldn't be making that announcement now. Right. But let's say even they got he got one more, and then bowed out in against the Rams. So you get just one step closer. Would it make that much difference? I'm nervous if I'm an eagles fan because I I just don't know what I have with Carson Wentz, you know, with the the health part of this. I know physically, I know he's talented, and yes, he's our future. But he's been injured back to back years here. I would try to keep Nick foles. I would try to convince him to stay. But if they're going to be fair to Nick foles, then you gotta let him go. He's giving you enough if he buys his contract out, and he can go elsewhere than that's better for him. Yes. He look, you know, the guy's not gonna stay healthy. You're gonna play it on the next year. It's just a matter of time. Hey, take your check get your money. We'll see in the playoffs gonna make twenty million. I mean, come on. He just chill. Do anything. Get to the playoffs. You know? Then that's when you take over. Okay. I'll sorta slog it out beginning of the season get through the next time around. We'll just have you eight through sixty eight seven seven three DP show, Email address DP, Dan, Patrick dot com. Twitter with DP show, say good morning to our radio and TV partners poll question for the first hour. Mclovin. Okay. Who would you want your choices being foles? Flacco Dwayne Haskins of Ohio State or Carla Murray. Forty six percent say they would want Nick foles if they were t- might Jacksonville, then Dwayne Haskins second then Joe flacco and last Kyla Murray, and I got another option. Okay. Of the four remaining coaches in the NFL playoffs. I'll give you your choice of coach for one game and take out ballot. Check she has Shawn Payne Andy Reid or Sean McVeigh who would you want to coach game this weekend? Sean payton. Take Sean pay saucy. Yeah. It takes you. One Super Bowl one more than Andy. Yeah. I if feels like he's a little bigger in the big time moments there, you know, Andy's track record complaints time. It's not great, Sean McVay is just getting his toes wet, so. Yeah, Sean Payton. But what about all this? Everybody wants next, Sean McVeigh. So isn't he the flavor is your well during the regular season you want Sean McVeigh, but you know, it's game to game now which winning a game. It's out coaching somebody, you know, that this is why Bella check has the legacy. He has he's he's won a lot of games. But we remember winning these kind of games where he'll out coach you. We'll talk to Ian O'Connor. He wrote the book on Bill Belichick and had some interesting things to say about Bella check, you know, that that he had to win back the locker room that that was really a big hurdle after what happened with Malcolm Butler in the Super Bowl last year, which we still haven't. Gotten answers on and bell checks. Not going to tell you anything about it. But, you know, Connor said, you know, at the end of his book on Bella check. He talked about how he lost the locker room with what happened in the Super Bowl when he benched, Malcolm Butler and also is this is best coaching job. I was watching pardon the interruption yesterday with Mike, and Tony and they had the question who had a better year Tom Brady or Patrick Mahomes and their take was Mahomes at his age Brady at his age. And I think they both sided with Brady at his age, which I would've as well. Because I also look at what Brady was working with and what Mahomes was working. You had injuries at all the wide receiving the positions for the patriot Sony. Michelle was injured, and you know, even though he was the first round draft pick. You know, Brady didn't have in dozen have good wide receiving corps. Not at all. You know? Ho- Hogan's not the same didn't have Ataman gronk is, you know, one step done, you know, that's game to game. Josh, Gordon, gone. You know, they didn't have Dion Lewis. I mean, they had James white and Sony, Michelle. So you could look at Brady had a better year. A meeting was twenty nine touchdowns eleven interceptions with that group. He had no pro bowlers. Mahomes has Kelsey, you know, I guess you could say the best titan and tyreek hill is unstoppable any ad Kareem hunt for a while. So you know, if you if you slant it that way Brady at a better season than Patrick Mahomes with what he had to work with any lost one of his best offensive lineman early in the season. Mclovin. Cub on. That is such a contrary. Take by you three. It's it. I'm learning. I'm learning from skip Bayless screaming as Smith Brady's knee was heard all year. And that's why he was thrown into the dirt. When a pass rusher. Got with an eight yards of him. He seemed awfully careful early in the season. Yes, boy, he Brady was a sixty six percent passer. Forty three hundred yards twenty nine touchdowns eleven picks. That's now a little down for him over the past three little, mclovin. I I am. It's slanting this. I said at forty one. Yeah. What Brady did with no weapons is more impressive. If you're looking at it in you know, in that prism, then Patrick Mahomes. The dude was throwing first hand I left handed. He was crazy. I I just I'm much more in the surface that Mahomes Caesar was so hopefully games blindfolded. Remember, they'll right. Yeah. Not looking at his receives throwing no look left hand passes thirty arts out of the field. I think he had one. Game where he didn't even play in pads. Like, he just went out and dockers, right? Yeah. He's more like a legendary like the legend of Patrick, by the way, is that going to work. I guess the patriots. Are they going to bait him into doing something? Like, I just wanna know how Bella check are you taking away Patrick Mahomes. Are you taking away tyreek hill? And I think that the indication of who's more dangerous bell checks trying to figure out tyreek hill what about Kelsey to. Well, you you're one guy who's going to benefit but Bella check. It's gotta take away tyreek hill if he doesn't then they don't win this game. If tyreek hill has a quiet game. I think the patriots went again. I don't think the patriots care what the weather's like if it's frigid. You're in New England Julian Edelman joined us and said, hey, we we practice outside like that's not going to be a big deal. But people are trying to make that big deal in won't be for the patriots. Yeah. Mclovin. Can we answer all these questions on Monday because if Brady beat? Behoves, and I'm right there with you. But the home still gonna win then BP though. Yeah. And he should. Yeah. Yeah. I'm fine with that. But you know, Brady's only one year removed from being the MVP, I know and having an incredible Super Bowl. So you know, everybody's waiting for Brady to fall off any other quarterback in the NFL. Any other quarterback doesn't have the same season. I think the Brady had with that group. I don't care. How old you are? You don't have that same season with that group because that that's not a great group gronk can't play anymore. I mean, they're best weapon or weapons or running backs. James white is their best receiver and Sony. Michelle is sort of hit or miss but elements, not the same Hogan's not the same amendola is gone. I mean gronk is nowhere near what he wants was. And Brady somehow they were one of the top four scoring teams in the. NFL? I gotta get a little bit of credit there. All right. Got to give them a little bit. I guess the chargers. He's looked like the best quarterback in the NFL. And that's a good at close second. Yeah. That's a good charger team. Good charger defense here. The Carolina Panthers owner suggest Andrew luck style year off could be the best for Cam Newton shoulder injury. This is the new owner David Tepper, he spoke with reporters. Why would you bring this up? If you're the owner how does this help your team because now every week every other week at the draft at many camp OT every question has to do with Cam Newton shoulder. Why would you do this? I would keep it under wraps his long as I can. Now, if I'm Carolina do I do I start to look at a quarterback here. Now, you gotta you gotta look at Cam Newton and say all right, his style. Is he going to be able to be healthy? For the rest of his career and coming back from the shoulder injury. As I told you with what Andrew luck was going through. And Cam Newton if you've gone through shoulder surgery, you know, that it's an inexact science. They even tell you that you're not quite sure. And they're getting the finest medical help you can possibly get. And they're still doubt about coming back. Andrew luck missed an entire year because of that and Cam Newton, you know, when you get surgery if you get surgery trying to play through it. And even if you do get surgery. At its it's not like Tommy, John surgery. They've got Tommy John surgery down. They don't have the shoulder down. And Cam Newton. I'm not surprised at all that this is a bigger issue. But I am surprised you gotta know imagine. If Christian McCaffrey said this. Yeah. Coach would be up in arms over this. Or the owner. Like, hey, what do you? Why would you say that don't say that, you know, we don't want anybody to know what's going on here? And then the owner says it I don't like that. Yes. He is it possible that this is sort of a really long term play to throw off whoever. The Panthers are playing week one. Who do you prepare for at that point right now at the game time to are? You are you preparing for is a Derek Anderson is he still the back of probably maybe they're just trying to mess with the draft over who's gonna fall to right around sixteen where the Panthers are. Maybe we'll take a quarterback. I dunno camps hurt. It's all gamesmanship mental warfare. Kyle Allen is the backup quarterback there. He had a great game. Remember seventeen Taylor Heinecke was playing his. But then he got hurt then Kyle. And who is the former number one high school recruit came in and beat up. I think the saints backups. But then do you start to look at Nick foles or Joe flacco if you're Carolina? Oh, yeah. I'm bringing it numbering. It today. Do you start to look at a quarterback there if you're Carolina in just throwing that out? That's a tall quarterback do. Okay and flacco. Wow. If you'd like to watch the Australian Open the best way to do it all the action is on direct TV channel seven to one through seventy seven January thirteenth through the nineteenth. Sixfold channels that coverage throughout the early rounds at the tournament, plus a mix channel interactive features complements direct TV for more information. 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But that's for another day at she's got a burden her mouth, and this bird is screaming for dear life, literally. And I'm I'm trying to get the bird out of the cat's mouth, and then get it outside. And it was not a good situation. Then there's another cat that wanted in on the meal is well, so he comes lumbering in. I'm like get the hell outta here. So I gotta get cats out. Get the cat to drop the bird open the windows, you know, and it's fifteen degrees. Open all the windows to get this bird to go outside. And then finally got the bird outside. And that cat was. So proud wanted to give me that bird like look at when I got you. I can't you bird. Why didn't you just let nature tickets go because I can't do that. I wanted was inside the house. No, I don't like those National Geographic shows the bird get in the house Orleans. I think that's an invader the cat doing its duty. That's a can of the year. We're not sure we there's no I witness reports on it. All I know is this cat had this bird and was not going to let go you're the only guy with a watch cat. I mean, a cat who actually does something because watchdog. Yeah. My dogs are worthless. They slept through the whole thing that cat, and why did catch always leave you something on the doorstep? They they they leave you surprises. Like this all the time. They'll bring a mouse the bring a rat. It's actually a test of your masculinity. They're like, yes, don't worry. I'll take care of all the predators. Somebody's doing something to keep the family say oh man woke me up from a deep sleep. But of course, I have the sleep number bed. So I was able to get back to slice. Yeah. A little product placement. There was one of those where you go. Okay. I hear a sound. That's not a normal sound here late at night. And then I gotta turn on all the lights. And then I got to open all the windows just to get this little bird out the door out the window. I have a dog question for you. I know very very little about dogs. My mother wants to buy a dog. But she wants something just that lays around does nothing that she could pet. She doesn't want to a barking dog or a running around like crazy dog, basically, like an Ottoman that breeze. An and not too big either. Oh, not too big. Well, you could get you can there's a lot of dogs that need to be adopted that our senior dogs, they're a little older. So they're they probably they're they're definitely out of that puppy stage. So they don't have as nearly as much energy, and they're probably not barking as much either that could be an option. And the they don't have as many accidents. Oh, yeah. They're usually good to go. The other hounds trains like adopting a sixteen year old kid. You know, it's kind of pass all the bad times older, no sixteen. That's when the bad. Rather two or month old? Yeah. Now, you probably want to have an older dog is is good to get. What about those pugs? They're kind of cute. She likes the a lot of energy is that right laud energy high energy. Yeah. That's another thing. You gotta be be this first three years with puppy. I mean, and you know, what they don't bark, but you're going to get over the cuteness of hearing. Real fast. They're certain dogs that bark in awful lot. Like a beagle. Just say what about Beagles kind of cute, they're cute, but they bar. Oh, they bark a lot. Yeah. But I would I would ask a rescue dog. Yeah. I would I would ask about a rescue dog. Okay. And, you know, find one that no. Has been house trained rescued who am I right? You ever see that bumper sticker who rescued who all rescue a dog? But it's like they really rescued mum. Okay. I like that. Yeah. You we'll get her that bumper sticker who rescued who. I saw this letter that was sent from. Grade school kid in Philadelphia and her name is Abigail. And she's she wanted to send this letter to all Sean Jeffrey, who of course, had the drop in the final two minutes the loss against the saints. And she sends a letter says I'm a huge eagles fan. When I watch the play last night. I was crying. It's okay to lose a game. You don't always have to win a game. I love you. My whole family was rooting for. You don't give up on playing football. Keep practicing don't quit. You're a good player. Love abigail. All right. I don't think this a real Philadelphia Eagles fan here. Because there's no way that she would have that kind of nice letter to all Sean Jeffrey post Super Bowl see up. Maybe that's what it is. If the eagles didn't win the Super Bowl last year. I think Abigail is tearing all Sean new one. I think she's all in on ripping him criticizing him because that's the way eagle fans respond. Not like this, mclovin. Well, maybe if there was a drawing of her giving the middle finger drew Brees at the bottom, then that would be you will see children doing obscene things have better Lincoln field. I'm not kidding. It's a it's a thing there. Yes. Fritzy? Isn't it refreshing that she's innocent enough where she could be a fan and not go to route that the rest of us like let's kill this guy and MC death threats and everything to the second grader, and you know, eventually, she'll get to the point where she's crazy like all the other eagle for the rest of us this. I've on my Twitter time was so soft. It was like alshon Jeffery was the hero of the game. Because he dropped the ball. Everybody is embracing. The team loses Cody parkey and also Jeffrey soft in okay now, you mentioned Cody parking, Cody parkey, the bears kicker doing doing he, you know, stands in their after missing the field goal took all the questions, and I commend him. Because you know, the field goal was was tipped which nobody wanted that was not going to be the story. It was hey, you went off the upright and the crossbar doing doing. It got tipped. And then they eventually changed it to officially a blocked field goal with Cody parkey, then he goes on the today show and sits down with the ladies, and they gave him like some award some made up award. Most inspirational player, whatever it was. If I was the head coach of the bears. I would have fired Cody parkey once he got off the set of the today show because you got Matt Nagy who's the new head coach. Who said, hey, we're only in this together. We all went together, we all lose together. I don't need Cody parkey doing, you know, the could you Pat me on the back tour here that that he never should have gone on the today show and didn't have a good season to begin with. If you're his teammate, you don't wanna see him on that show. You backed him. You were there for him you stood up for him. But he goes on the today show. I would have if I met Nagy just said he could you tell a savannah Guthrie when when he's done that he's fired. You know, we're releasing him. Yup. I theory about the positive sentiment towards Al Sean, Jeffrey, and Cody parkey two guys who who's teams lost because they didn't do their job. The internet social media so negative overly cr- almost universally negative. These days is that the new thing is to be ultra embracing of someone who screwed up on a big stage, overly embracing alshon, Jeffery. You know, wasn't your fault will was his fault. But in that moment, it was just a fact, but now everyone says don't worry about it. It's it's it's the of comforting is almost like being anti to what the negative on internet. You know for when you look at what happened with Bill Buckner? And you know, you you gotta move to Idaho and get away from it all and what they did to Bartman, or anyone that's made a mistake whether you're fan and that interfere with the ball, your boy you screwed up. It's just, you know, an death threats is just horrible. I can understand. And I appreciate why would go hopefully the other way in in these years where you're like trying to do the opposite. And try to split Donnie more ended up committing suicide after giving up a home run the Dave Henderson. So I I think it's kind of refreshing that you can put your. Random aside and be human for a minute and help. No, I don't want to get to death threats. But if I tell my kicker, we got your back where you know, let let's just move into next season. You know, let's not play this up anymore. You know, you you missed a kick. You didn't have a good year. Yes. It was tipped. But don't go on the today show. And unless the today show every week is going to have you know, an award for one of these players for coaching aggies. Exact quote was for me, you understand that we always talk about a we anatomy thing he said this at the season in the news conference. We always talk as a team wins the team we lose the team. You know, I just I didn't necessarily think that was too much of a week thing. I just didn't think it was a weird thing. No it wasn't. It was about Cody parkey. And and we always talk about kickers. They don't feel like they're part of the team. Here's a team that's making you part of the team and you made yourself. It was about you as an individual. And it was an oh woe is me tour, and you don't do that. You didn't need to do that. You should keep your head low. And then try to go in and win your job next year. And I just thought it was it was it was the wrong decision for him to make is all Sean Jeffrey going to be on the view today. And it like what are everybody gonna start doing this? I mean, I feel bad for guys who get put in these situations. And yes, we are overly critical and having spent time a lot of time with Bill Buckner after that ball went through his legs and what happened to his family. I certainly understand you know, how far fans can go to be fanatics. But I kept cautioning bears fans to say look the the ball was tipped you want to blame people blame your defense forgiven up the touchdown on fourth down blame your offense lineman for allowing somebody to block that kick. Parkey did make the kick prior to that when they were calling the time out, but the ball was tipped. So I was on parkey side. They're all Sean, Jeffrey, probably dropped the fewest balls of any wide receiver this year in the NFL. But he he dropped that one. Does that mean they win the game? No. But he did drop it. Okay. How far do you take your criticism? Now, how upset are you with all showing Jeffrey it certainly helps the eagles won the Super Bowl last year. I will tell you that. But also Jeffrey dropped it feel bad move on. But I don't wanna see all Sean Jeffrey going on the today show to go. Hey, could you give me an award here? Can I get the Cody parkey award, mclovin? Yeah. Speaking is an eagles fan. The fact that all Sean doesn't do a lot of media helps him here. Like, he's quite I think he kept it in the locker whatever he was feeling. Yes. And that's where it should be. All you have to do is say to your teammates. I feel bad. I mean, everybody knows you feel bad. Nick foles went up all Sean Jeffrey, and had you know, things to say nice things to say about him because he knows that he's been clicked for them. He was great helping them win a Super Bowl. Cody parkey has no resume. Can't be going on the today show. But I would just said insubordination, Cody once you stay with Hoda and savannah or you can join Kathy Lee, if you want to I'm surprised he didn't to stay for another hour, and then beyond with Al Roker and Kathy Lee drinking wine. Yes, pulling the tough part for the bears. There's all the sentiment to cut Cody parkey, there's a lot of money going on here. They gave him a four year deal last summer. So they owe him for guaranteed money completely guaranteed for the two thousand nineteen season. Bail him two point seven five million pluses prorated signing bonus the over three million dollars to the nineteen season. What they plays a minute or not. Jerry Jones is on one five point three the fan every week usually on Tuesday. And he has some things to say about Jason Garrett. Also blamed the field at the Coliseum and the loss against the Rams. Let me start with Jerry Jones talking about Jason Garrett. If Jason Garrett was on the open market. Which one the one where he talks about the five offers where? Sorry. I don't see that one yet. Nope. Field traction, though. Okay. All right. Jerry Jones, blaming the field conditions at the Calcio. Frankly, we never got traction. And I mean that literally that was a slippery field with very much. I had it to do over again. I we would be of really scrutinizing our footwear. Our cleats. We had trouble digging in so to speak. Now, you say let's try that's an excuse. No. It is not because not only physically, but we had trouble bigoted with just affective -ness of our defense. It sounds like an excuse. But but blame blame your manager. I mean, they that's their job to know the field conditions there. And did the Rams play on the same field as the Cowboys? The Cowboys were tipping their their defense was tipping their positions and the Rams pick this up. And that's why they had a great game or even greater game running the football. But Jerry's blaming his team for literally not having traction. I blame my guys because they didn't have you wearing the right shoes out there. Here's Jerry talking about Jason Garrett in how popular he would be on the open market Jason had been out on the market two weeks ago. He would have had five offers for head coaching. I know that. So you've got to look at what your alternates is. Well, let's see saying that there's there's no better alternative right now. And that's why Jason GARRETT'S employed. Do you believe that there are five teams who would have said if Jason Garrett was free that we're going to hire him would the jets to it? Probably would the Browns have done. It would Tampa Bay of Dunin Denver, Arizona. Miami. I I'm gonna guess that there would be two or three teams to bring him in for an interview. But I don't know if everybody would be rushing to bring in Jason Garrett and his Jerry Jones sang. We have Jason because we don't have a better alternative play. That again, Seton that what Jerry says about Jason GARRETT'S offers Jason had been out on the market two weeks ago. He would have had five offers for head coaching. I know that. So you've got to look at what your alternates is. Okay. What does that mean until another good candidate comes along? Jason's going to be our head coach. And we'll say this about the Cowboys. They're front office. Their scouting department's done an unbelievable job here recently. They really have. Now, they've taken some chances on some shady players, but you know, Vander h Ezekiel Elliott you trade from Ari Cooper the offensive line. They've made some really good decisions here. I just don't think it's been reflected in the bottom line. And Jason Garrett has won two playoff games in his career. I mean, he's not going to be fired. Now, I always thought. That there were two guys who were going to take over in Dallas one was Jon Gruden, but I don't think Gruden and Jerry Jones would do. Well, although Jerry Jones has talked. I've been told that he has spoken with Jon Gruden spoke to him in Tampa couple years ago. And the other one is Sean Payton. I thought Sean Payton would be the guy that Jerry would bring in former assistant seems like a more open minded offensive minded guy. And that would be the guy that Jerry would hire. But and I thought that there was sort of an impasse or friction with Sean Payton in the front office with the saints a couple years ago. And I thought that maybe you know, they they were thinking about bringing in Patrick Mahomes. So we didn't know what was going to happen which Brees was breeze going to play. Elsewhere were they gonna sign him for how long and Sean Payton's future with the same. I thought that you were going to see a situation where Sean Payton joined the Dallas Cowboys, and I don't rule that out down the road. Let's say the saints lose this weekend. Just throw it out there. I have no inside information on this. But let's say the saints would lose. It's that hot dad, just the TS. Would Jerry Jones look at Sean Payton, if they seems I keep would be remix a better, turn it. Live play that again about about Jerry talking about Jason GARRETT'S offers Jason had been out on the market two weeks ago. He would have had five offers for head coaching. I know that. So you've got to look at what your alternates is is is he kind of talking up Jason case something happens there, and you wanna put him out there on the open market. He would have five offers. Okay. Maybe maybe not. Sean pains equipment staff has all kinds of cleats one. Oh, five point three the fan, courtesy of conversation with Jerry Jones, by the way last night. I watched the it's a documentary on the Dallas cowboy cheerleaders. It's not what you think it was really well done documentary on the woman who is responsible for the Dallas cowboy cheerleaders. I think it's on stars that I saw, but it was really well done baron make sense that would be on star. Yeah. Not it's not what you think it is. Although they do get into Debbie does Dallas which was based on the Dallas Dallas cowboy cheerleader, and how there was lawsuits, you know, they were trying to prevent this with the the pornographic movie. What these women went through, you know, women's lib they were upset with these women like everybody was upset with the Dallas Cowboys cheerleaders. And but the wonderful things that they did that people don't have they have no idea. How generous they were with their time. They made fifteen dollars a game. But they would go on those USO tours. They'd go with Bob Hope. They would be overseas. They got shot at like it. If you get a chance to watch the dock. Commentary on the Dallas Cowboys cheerleaders. Now, I don't know the official title of it. But it was really well done got chance to watch that. I mean, I was mesmerized with the story itself of the the Dallas cowboy cheerleaders the original ones talking about you know, what happened. You know, it's not a pretty it's not a pretty picture with what they portray. But it was really well done talk about when Jerry Jones came in. And you know, kicked Tex Schramm out the door and Tom Landry. And you couldn't have any communication whatsoever. With a Dallas cowboy cheerleader or they couldn't talk to players, you know, that was off limits, and then Jerry comes in. And then all of a sudden you're allowed to socialize with the football players, but it was really well done and the woman who created the Dallas Cowboys cheerleaders or she was the inspiration or she was the brains behind it just passed away recently. But it was it was I don't know when this was done, but it was really well done get chance to to watch that. All right. We'll take a break back with phone calls here. Coming up next hour. We'll talk to Ian O'Connor. He wrote the book on Bella check, and has some interesting things to say about him going into this AFC title game. That'll be coming up next hour back after this. Fellas. I gotta talk about something that we don't normally talk about an everyday conversation. Maybe it's a little awkward, but it shouldn't be because I think it's something that most of us are doing. And if you're not doing it, you really should be you guys manscaping. Right. You know what I'm talking about? Where you keep things. A little trimmed kind of fresh below the waist nine out of ten women of all ages preferred their guy manscaping nine out of ten women of all ages, but you should have the right tools for the job or you're going to look like you're using a machete down there. So you pop over to mend scape dot com. That's man's scape dot com and check out their perfect package. Perfect package. Two point. Oh, as a matter of fact, it was a smash hit on shark tank. 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Investing first round pick if my offense and thanks for the phone call Robert if my offense was going to be geared towards him. The Browns struggled early this season. Baker Mayfield struggled early this season until Freddie kitchens came in and started calling the offense. And then all of a sudden Baker Mayfield started to play like he did. At oklahoma. And Hugh Jackson said after the fact, you know, what maybe I should have catered the offense a little bit more to Baker Mayfield in college. And I didn't you know, he didn't want to turn him loose and let him play. These guys are ready to play. Now. This isn't the typical. Hey, you're a rookie. It's going to take a little time. Now, there's certain situations and certain players that yes, it will take time. Lamar Jackson is still learning. How to play that position in the NFL? Josh Rosen is still learning how to play Josh Allen is still learning. How to play it? Sam darnold, a little more polished, but he's still learning and so is Baker Mayfield. But you're you're playing them right now and Sam darnold coming in. And what is he nineteen or twenty Baker Mayfield twenty twenty one like they're young kids playing that position? And if Tyler Murray can do it on a big stage at Oklahoma. I have no problem with that transition, but I have to be committed to his style in what he does. And I still applaud what Carolina did with Cam Newton is they made their offense more suitable to what Camden it Auburn. Instead of hey, this is we run a pro style offense. That's not the case anymore. The lines are so blurred between college in the NFL now because it's so wide open. Everybody's don't spread it's rare. When you see a quarterback get under center. And if I have I if I'm. Oakland. I have three first round picks. I'd certainly look at Kyle Moore. Absolutely. If I'm Jacksonville. You know? I'd look at him. If I'm the giants. I look at him. I'd have no problem with that. Like I'm fascinated with Cuyler Murray if he played for the judge because now I got Cuyler Murray, and I got saquon Barkley. Run pass option. I got Dell Beckham in there. I now, I'm I'm creating something here. I want you to have to adjust to me. And I think that's that would be an awesome approach if on the giant it doesn't feel like that's what the giants would do them. Now, they're four more conservative. So I don't know if they would they would have an offense that looked like that I saw where a seventh grader quarterback in Michigan was given a scholarship offer from Jim horrible. So the kid is thirteen years of age his name is Isaiah Marshall and Jim Harbaugh after watching tape of the thirteen year old quarterback. He was visiting the school searching for high school prospect Southfield high and he decided to offer him a scholarship. Now, it's non binding. I hate when colleges do this. I think it's creepy. When you have a talent evaluator, you know, go into a playground to watch, you know, seventh and eighth graders play basketball. I just don't like it. It's wait. And unless you're gonna make that binding where if he wants that scholarship he gets that scholarship. It's a publicity stunt, but this kid there's already enough peer pressure when you're that age thirteen you're going through an awful lot. And now all your the kid who got the scholarship in Michigan. Now, maybe he can handle it. I mean hadn't even learned to drive yet. And you're giving him a scholarship. I don't like it at all. Because you can now their talent evaluators who can give you the lowdown on six grade basketball players, and it can mess with you can mess with your head. How people view, you know, stardom. How do you handle it? And if I'm the NC double A cut this crap out. Publicity stunt in hor ball was on. I would tell him. I tell him to his face. I I don't like it at all. 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REShow: Eric Stonestreet, Matt Iseman and Akbar Gbajabiamila. Hour 2 (09-11-20)

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Everybody our number two of the rich Eisen show we are on the air. Our friend Eric Stonestreet will be joining US shortly here on the program. Kansas City chiefs took care of business just last night in week one of the NFL season and the twenty twenty season kicking off. We made. There was one that was one. Illegal, you know Contact down the field penalty. That's the dreaded points of emphasis. I thought last night was very clean in terms of officiated in terms of the quality of play. I, for for a league with no preseason games eight, fifteen more of those the rest of this week. And we may never see a preseason game again. Because I think we're in that way anyway because because if that means more players would come in healthier and I I know that hurt that hinders the evaluation of people who could make a roster fifty to third man. But again, we're we're knee jerk in here. Yeah. Yeah. Big Time Right I. I get I was worried when I saw clete Blake Ben was the referee last night we gotta get over was that was ever against overpower line versus New England look. Like bear hugging Gronk in the end zone Monday night a regular season game. How many yachts can you water ski behind? Chris like literally you got only trophies in the case and you still bitch about chloe Blake men, Monday night week whatever the hell it was year whatever the hell it was that you could never have enough. quarterback including ice. Thank you, Mike. Never, sleep joining us here is. One of the great humans on the planet is Kansas. City chiefs gave him a lifetime thrill last year he was the voice of the Andy, Reid Nfl Films, Documentary Times, Yours. That was on NFL network on Wednesday night that will be repeated throughout the weekend. He is none other than Eric Stonestreet. How are you sir? Hello, Richard. Loe, sir, how are you? You must be great. Yeah. I mean you. You sound like you're you know you're coming down off of that w last night sounds like it listen listen. It's raining in Kansas City is sixty degrees You know it feels wonderful out. It's my it's my kind of it's a late October. Early September it was. It was great. Last night. It was great. I was happy to be there. I was happy to be one of the fans there was able to see the game and I'm just glad football's back. Volt give me an idea because I'm so many people are wondering what what a fan has to do to get into the game and what what that experience is like to be at a game with a stadium. That is not a Al Michael said during the game on or if you heard it or if you were able to listen to the broadcast while you were watching that the fans it looked like a team home team that was getting blown out by forty and everybody had left for the exits the that's normally what stay looks like. Los Angeles chargers game. Gentleman. ONSCREEN. Game today. Ladies. gents. I. It's different for different people because you know I have a sweet at Arrowhead. Opted out this year just because. With travel and one of the joys is taking my my mom and some of her friends and just going to put her in those situations. I opted out of my sweet we'll just pick it up again next year. So I went as a guest of someone else in order to get in I had the Lindsay and I had to pass a Cova test and We passed the we passed that. So that was great and that's for sweet this sweet level people and the general public admission tickets I think during clusters of six and then they just spread them out and you have to have a mass on all time and there are people walking around. with polite signs that say please please put your mask on I. Got I got signed pointed at me one time he had taken fight of my yeah. Taking a bite of my hotdog with you're allowed to do, and then I forgot to put my mask up and all of a sudden I see is fine in my face and says, put your mask on please I'm like Oh shit. Sorry. For the for the most part, right I mean everybody wants to follow the rules and do what they need to do to to be safe and get football back and like I feel like that's pretty much what everybody did I'm sure if you talk to law enforcement or stadium security, there were future that probably didn't follow the rules and they probably got escorted out which is good right and then just seeing a game like I I don't know if you're how long have you been on but I just started our. It was more crisply played than I. Than I thought and you know, obviously, it helps to have to stellar quarterbacks. But the Texans are, and of course, your team has remarkable continuity of something along the lines of what like nineteen or twenty of the Super Bowl starters are back so that that has to help I thought. It looked pretty good out there. Beginning I thought I we were going to have a lot of missed tackles and I. that's what it seemed like in my brain. I was like a bet you this is you know just not having training camp normal and having those preseason games than I thought it tightened up and it I. Didn't notice it at all and I know speaking to a couple of my pals that are on that offensive line they were there just so. With the establishment early on in the running game and like what that means for them on. You know on a play by play basis as far as just not sitting there protecting pat every patrick every play because the other team thinks they're going to pass and very likely they will not taking anything away from. Damian Williams but just the excitement of Clyde come in there and Andy being an eric being ready to establish that running game a huge huge wrinkle for defenders in in the League now. Yeah I Eric Stonestreet here on the rich Eisen show I know you're tight with a lot of the alignment I've seen that up close and personal big slick. You're awesome charity for children's Mercy Hospital there in Kansas City I know you're tight with those guys and I was going to bring that up this kid Clyde Edwards Allaire twenty-five, Russia's. Touch the that's not touches. Russia's he twenty five times against a terrific run defense from last year. They were all speaking of those guys I think they were all curious. I mean just again because of the no preseason like. What's what's his game? Day, Output GonNa be they knew that he'd had a good camp and they they knew that he was obviously. An. Andy Reid and Brett beach draft choice. So you know he's coming in for a reason because he's dynamic and. You know just be for those guys they were like okay. Well, he is definitely a game day game time he's a game. So that's exciting for everybody I. Mean He's got cuts like all day long I just love how he moves laterally and and how he runs up the field and keeps the shoulders and I mean it's it's exciting I mean I I feel bad for. Feel. Bad Defenders. You this is i. mean you gotTa be out of your mind. I mean, literally Patrick Mahomes is once in a lifetime. human and a quarterback dropped into your lap. While read obviously Brett Feature Smart, enough to go get him and and everybody signed every sign everybody's nobody's going anywhere like you can. You're. You're in a Barcalounger right now just to give you gotta obviously have to execute, but you got the right. Nothing's going to change. This is great. This is exciting. Just correct. Correct one thing I am a lazy boy. That's right. Lazy. Boy recliner brought to you Eric Stonestreet Lazy Boy, Big Fan of lazy boy. Not just walked into that my bad my bad. Luck. Yeah, go ahead. Of their sponsor if there were royal sponsor something like that I don't know if. The Rich Eisen sponsor in his stonestreet? Okay. With that, right? Yep but you know how long it's been and how almost it's been for for us in Kansas City and it's just. So it's so great because not only is Patrick a great player enter these guys great players they're great human beings and and. You know players that Kansas City can be proud of her everything how they conduct themselves off field on the field and it's it's just a it's a dream come true for me as a fan and I know that I get to speak for fans sometimes and I just. I just know how excited and happy every everyone is to have football back in championship football and you know like you know the Roger was at the game last night. All new to me I the. Goods. Yeah I was sitting with them and I said Roger like this is all new to me I. Didn't know the Commissioner comes in town for the first game of Super, Bowl champions welcome in off the next year it's a Thursday. Brockman knows all this because you know he's won championships series. You know. It? Still. bitching about the referee from last night's game being the guy who cost him a Monday night win because he didn't throw a flag on leuke cly drape it all over Gronkowski I don't even know what year was. Here's where here's where I will defend Brockman and Jeff. Triplett is a name I will never forget in my life. Ship because my home was because Mahomes is in the grasp is that what you're saying? Well. No mahomes wasn't well no that was the forward progress. Over. When when Johnson had what's In the grass. Mariota. So. Asked we're moving onto the future and. A playoff game, he's talking about a Monday night regular season. When your team teams trying to do what they have eventually done. I mean those yeah I appreciate you defending. Chris Brockman. I actually. Thirteen. That was a game. keithly. Fine it's fine. Yeah and I do want to say well, I'm on on on here. I don't know if you were GONNA ask me about it or not but it does seem to be a big topic of conversation. It's mornings with respect to the booing of the moment of unity having been there. And you know in the stadium I knew nothing of booing until I got online and looked on twitter to see what people were saying about our first dries, and that's when I saw it and. I didn't hear booing now. Since then I have seen some video where there are individuals doing and I will never in a million years defend anyone that takes that moment players coming together. And and booing it's ridiculous but I would just say that. In the stadium, we didn't hear it and as a on the broad spectrum. That's not what she's fans were doing in that moment, there may have been a few. That did that and I will never defend anyone that boost that moment but I don't want to paint chief's fan base with a broad brush of you know racists or bigots or whatever like that Kansas City is made up of a lot of good people and Just like any city we're going to have. Some people that take an opportunity to to to express a an. UNWANTED OPINION IN. A in a very. Important needed moment for those players and it's an unfortunate situation. But I don't like turning on the news and seeing people saying twenty thousand people booed a moment of unity because that is absolutely one hundred percent. Not What happened we had matthew on in the first hour and he said you know and he is not a wallflower. He would. Definitely, he would definitely say he said that he didn't hear it on the field but. Again when you do listen back and an on you do here as I was sitting in watching the game I did hear some booze and I was I was lot. I'M NOT GONNA I'm not gonNA again I will not I will not offend anyone who booed in that moment I will tell you it was poor organization and when he asked for the moment of silence, you definitely get a clear moment of silence from the stadium. And then the players were still meandering around getting into their position. So I think a lot of any unrest and uneasiness and the people that yells, let's play football and all that stuff came from. No one knew what was happening because? It took them a while to get in their line. So in retrospect they should got we if after they got in their line, then we should have asked for the moment of silence and I think it would have been a better but again. not not a good look for Kansas City and I can tell you one that none of us are proud of if anyone booed but you know rich at the EMMYS year I went people. you know Protested Mitch and Cam and had signs out there where gay people are going. You know all that kind of stuff and people ask me about it and I said Look America is a great place where speech is free and you're able to expose what an idiot you are and that's the that's the way the knife is right. We get this we get this freedom of speech and expression and you get to show people who you are in moments good and bad so. I just know we have to as a collective in every group were in make sure that people that express. Hatred or unwanted behavior or booze. We let them know that that's not okay and That's not what what chiefs the chief's fan base is about. It's certainly not what Clark Hunt and the hunt family is about. And we just have to take care of business on her own, and that's you know within within the fan basis what I hope we do and. Just, let people know like it's not not okay in the in the moment like that. Eric. Stonestreet here on the rich Eisen show before I let you go eric. You voiced the Andy Reid documentary for NFL films, which is gotTa. Be like a lifetime dream come. True. Growing up, watching that tight spiral godown, Assad Line, and John. Voice, you were asked by NFL films. Would you like to come do something like that? That had to be an absolute Dream for you eric. It is and I was so pleased that I was able to do that and they they allowed me to do it to to represent the chiefs and coach spags and be enemy an coach read and. You know I told coach that I was doing it and he intro- coach for me. He's like, let it roll baby. Let it roll. He's just He's just a peach of a man as we all saw with his facial last night as much already as about to ask you that I'm already on the phone already on the phone to some of my Hollywood contacts to see what we have in the industry. That can improve. Because Hollywood has experienced that you know being on camera and people wearing different things on their faces, we have to have some sort of technology. NFL's not aware of I am in touch with some people told Rick burkholder and right that I will. Be letting them know today what product. Some of my crop masters recommended. What can't it can't be like from the Rick Moranis darth helmet from space balls. It's gotTa we gotTa have some sort of gray area between that and last night we gotta have something sweet spot. We gotta find it for you know what we're GONNA WE'RE GONNA find a product that allows that Faye Shield not fog up. there. Because the face shield is. Pure Gold I've already ordered one. I will be wearing one at the next game. And I. I will be a matching Andy but no, we need to get him product that we can wipe on the inside of that facial does fuck it up again. I. Don't know if you've the time to do it. But I maybe this should be another randy read video that that's your Randy's new GIG. Is He started this company for the face shield for his brother. You know what I mean to get like that. I'm just workshop in it maybe maybe that could be the next randy read video instead of what the jet skis yeah but that. There were some funny memes last night. Of of coach Freidan facemask, I mean in his his his proce game interview about it was was just awesome. But in true anti-foreign, he's like look we're going to get better with that next game. It's GonNa. You know we're not. We're not going to accept that as the status quo we're going to get better with face shield and I guarantee you. All. Hands on. Deck. Facial doesn't like the shields yours basically that bill is basically It was so good congratulated him and I was I was so excited rich with football and and I hope I think you know. It was it was great. I, mean Gosh I just I can't believe we're super bowl champions. I can't believe that's team that we have. some defenders SNEAD draft choice you know with his? I pick the Taryn was basically responsible for making happen but Great. I love it Eric. I'm appreciate you sharing your experiences with me with the show. You're a great friend best to Lindsey, thanks for everything. Yeah. Hope everybody's good out there and Just, be nice to to people just everyone anyone listening. Just, just be Nice A. Start let's start with waving at each other again and not thinking. That's weird like I. I told Lindsey, I said, what if we started a wave initiative where we teach people to wave at each other without thinking we're up to something. You know because you come back to Kansas City and I way that people knew way back and Be Like Hey, we just need to get back to waving. Start waving like the wave a different type of land twenty-first-century is fan right back out. And we'll catch. Catch. Eric Stonestreet at Eric Stonestreet on instagram and twitter. You're on hold stay on hold We're GONNA have a great chat with the stars of American Ninja, Warrior, and again, Ach bar may have the solve for Andy Reid sports keep coming back. 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That, go to NFL DOT COM slash game pass to start your free trial today NFL game pass where football never stops. Eight four two, zero, four, rich number to dial. We'll take your phone call stay on hold. You're going to enjoy the conversation about to hear, and then we will empty the phone banks. At the end of this, our best we can Kevin Nealon will call in, Chris? Brockman. We'll give you a news update. I've my unluckiest lock of the week pick which. I do pretty well. And I think I just went higher register on. Planning on having our first ever segment called Higher Register. The Higher Register take of the week where we give you take. Can we go higher register because you know? We we don't really believe it, but we hire hey, might actually happen. So we'll do that later. Oh the check on Jay Cutler's instagram that's still coming. How many producing producting? Can. Tell us how to gamble no other update though. Oh my gosh. How We? Know we saved that was last season maybe. The saving the gold we see if they're me or my cousin prepared for it. Probably. I find. So we've got that our poll question is sitting out there at richeisenshow as well. All of our phone lines are taken up life in our neighborhood here in El Segundo is great. But the NBC audience is mere seconds away from returning and again what you're about to see what Akbar has is. Okay let's come on. That's not just a tease. Welcome back to the rich Eisen Show I love these jets. My kids cannot get enough of American enjoy warriors. It's just great to sit around as a family and watch. Something know that there's not going to be something out of left field that I'm gonNA have to explain. We just sit there and watch people trying to pull off feats of strength without I. Guess the airing of grievances. Let's put it that way. It's a happy festivus. And is zoomed with Matt and bar. It's great when we have them in studio one day. Right. But I zoom with them just in the last two several hours and wait to see what Akbar has at his disposal I didn't see it common, but it is now in retrospect helpful for Kansas City to pay attention, check it out. And welcoming back to the rich Eisen show to Janse, who are part of a Juggernaut of television show I'm keeping my children at bay out of my home. Office to bed the air the ears of the stars of American. Ninja Warrior Twelfth Season Twelve. Th Season of American Ninja Warrior that it's premiering on Mondays at eight eastern and Pacific, and it is a pleasure to have back on the show off bar. Bajour. Matt. Iseman how are you gents? Well, we're doing good. You know another season we're super happy that we're able to pull it off. We almost thought we were able we weren't going to be able to do it but. Did it amazing job pulling this thing off. Really has as we see the NFL getting ready to start we have an appreciation for what they did. It was kind of fitting that the only way we could pull this off. We normally shoot in six cities around the country and then end up. In Vegas, we went to Saint Louis. We did it all in about two weeks. We shot at the Dome at America's Center, which is where the rams used to play. So re rich, you know it, you know the space eighty, thousand seat dome, completely empty and. No one in the crowd Nolan on the sidelines. And yet, and I kept talking about this. I think it would have felt. Empty. But the energy I think everyone was so grateful to be out of their homes and they knew how fortunate we were to be able to do this thing that we love in the midst pandemic that the energy actually was crazy. It was crazy that we were all excited to be there and we knew what it meant to be there during this. Yeah and then also to implementing that be burchell experience being able to. IBM The friends and family via you don't the the virtual experience and having them there to cheer them on Matt Niwa will conserve outline manner. We still going to be able to to have our enthusiasm in and we did the only thing that was tricky though in that space eighty, thousand fans aren't there. So when every time that night would go back and forth, the competitors could hear are commentary and so although. They. A Fancy Joe Buck is biased wait till Aaron Rodgers stops the middle in the middle of the plague Joe. What are you talking about? You hear him pull it against Green Bay. I can hear every word. So is that right some of the competitors like as they they actually one of them said, hey, tell me another way I could screw up this obstacle I'm on. We're not going to be nance rich. We're not gonNA be in their. Approach? We're not going to whisper. We don about doing it. We thought about doing it but. That's not that's not the Ninja. I've got to do that at the combine, which is the only other experience I would ever have about having an event in virtually empty stadium. You just hear. The home of the air conditioning unit plates and your bunch of the beeps. Watches every two seconds it's like a laboratory heavy thing. But it would be some action like some like I mean when somebody runs a great forty yard dash. So I, kind of had to do a little bit of that Nance Gov Voice. You know I got A. Rich. because. It's again like I. Well, first of all, you never want Tom Coughlin staring at you. Yeah that's number. Okay that's that's the first thing. You never want that Tom. Complex. Stare like who the Hell is screaming I'm trying to figure out what my? Right tackle is going to do this and Yard Dash I'm you know his split and it just I don't know there's kind of like a zen quality to it, but obviously, action does not lend to anything. But the way that you know we did we ended up, we had a lot of discussions we ended up putting a little bit of crowd noise in and some of it was the actual friends and family cheering but there were. Two. Reasons we did at one was born I went when we're going we're we're very loud but for us, it was actually helpful to have that crowd noise. It helps guide our energy as well. But I think also for the Ninjas and it's something that you know I've been watching sports rich I'd be interested to hear your take on an you too. But I think some of the reasons these young guys like Morikawa on the PGA. I think it's probably been easier for them to come out and play without the crowds because the crowds I think we'll get your energy going, and if you don't know how to handle it I think it's a different beast but but for some of the athletes I think they miss it a missed that Adrenalin rush and and it's I think it's it's different but I think it is tougher for the athletes to perform and but our our ninjas really it was just breathtaking. The performances we saw I think that again, the gratitude to be there really propelled them to these believable performance amid I'll say this. Actually visit. We haven't had the preseason and the the NFL had kind of you know the inner squad scrimmages and stuff like that. But there's nothing that replaces you know having the band and some stadiums will allow of two, thousand, three, thousand four but that's not the same as San Diego, state. No not to my alma mater but I know what? It's like to play in a big stadium with not that many fans and you make a big play you're so intoxicated. By the energy and you're so used to that when you don't have that I, mean it can bring the level down I mean and so learning how to banish the expectation is of of the proud in the atmosphere is going to be another obstacle helping these athletes because none of them really probably blatantness they played at a small school. Those are probably GonNa be athletes who can make the quick adjustment. I mean married Steve Mariucci was just mentioning this this comment To us we're getting ready. For Game Day morning preview show this week on NFL network that that the players that are about to play in the NFL season. That, even some of their youth. Football Games with all the parents there might have more fans at those games in the wall. You're about to play in some of the stadiums like forget about college forget about even high school like youth soccer like you football games youth you know Pop Warner Games have more screaming parents at. The stadiums that will have no fans in it but crowd noise pumped in. It's GonNa Weird thing I. Think. So I think the first week because I imagine the the players have been through what we've all been through being locked down and granted they'd been in some training camps in or at least practices now they're around each other but I think there's going to be something about. Them where they felt they knew this season was in jeopardy and they've seen how basketball is struggled and they've done it but baseball's having they're having their knocks and I think all of America is ready for football to come back. So I think the first few games are going to be crazy but mid-sized unless we start seeing crowds come back, it'll be interesting right to to see. Cam Newton in. Total silence instead of. you think it's crazy. Cam Newton Week. Two's going to be in Seattle with no crowd noise. It's just GonNa be fascinating thing and it's it's it's interesting how you are pointing out what your athletes in your competitors in American American Ninja Warrior went through. I got mad eisman off our Bajour be a millionaire Matt you're wearing your broncos Lee von Miller don't even bring it up. To it logistics is. That, he's going to be done for the year here. It's just heartbreaking and he's a he's a game changer and I think not just on the field I think is as a leader to and to lose that presence is going to be tough. Especially I, think the offensive side is, is GonNa be interesting with lock and a lot of new talent but not having a defense on lockdown. When you just you mentioned it, I mean mahomes and the chiefs we're all going to be playing catch up to them I think for a long time. So the AFC west. Your dessert. That's my guy right there but you know what I mean. That's just that's just better for my raiders eat. As, we don't have to worry about. You know what Melvin Gordon looks like in a as a Bronco I'm really curious to see how he visited once game. What about the raiders I I was just saying that on the show this week bar that that's one of the teams I have no earthly idea. They went seven and nine last year, and they can be three four games better and be a surprise. You know competitor for the chiefs in the West or a completely different story. How do you see the Vegas? Raiders play the Vegas Rate I think there's going to be that energy from being in a new place new team, but I'm not quite sure myself. But we there's not a lot of film right now to see how they improve outside of some of the reports in some of the things that you'd get in and out. But I do believe in I'm still a big believer in Jon Gruden in his ability to get those guys systematically added new pieces as well. About. Marcus. Mariota was really going to be a big push to Derek Carr that doesn't sound like the word come out at camp. Abed's been the case but I really do believe that Mar a debit card needs that push somebody who can keep him on his head because we saw two three years ago when he kinda blow out Oh, there's something here, and since then we've seen a little bit of a regression but look regression to me doesn't mean that you can't pop back up. To be this, the one year I can say that even though as a fan as former player I'm optimistic about the raiders I just don't know enough about what the raiders built up to any loss with that new stadium opening. His that would have been one of the best places like the broncos are gonNA play there every season and my friends and I already had that on the schedule. We're we going to go there and I I think for for them to be in a new place and not have. Any crowd energy there for a team that I think was ready to be embraced in Vegas I think that'll be really tough for them to. broncos fan well, I. I will say this. I'm GONNA break some news here on your show rich. Are you already bar? Yes. I. Am actually in the process of trying to. Get fans back into the stadium. So I have had nothing but time during the quarantine. Might Shark tank stuff here rich get ready. We're ready. Okay. This is. What's going to get fans back in I designed this creature right here it's like I'm. To get into the game and you can also look if. You can eat got the patent on it got a provisional patent on this thing. So. You see this right here it breeds well, anti all. And it allows you to has got filters. You can see the filter there. You can see bill through there I want fans back stance. So admire it is an announcer you I can't imagine not having that energy. So I've already been on the phone with the standards that we've had conversations. Okay. I'll to league office. I'm trying to get his pumped out I'm trying to get a partnership with with big companies right now able to mass produce this. So I've been getting the conversation rolling. So hopefully, not as probably won't happen for this for the NFL football season. But perhaps for the college football season, you'll see my mask. A mask I have I have some follow ups. Art. Go ahead. I'm ready. Shortcake Regina. Gets. By the way if I was a shark I'd be interested in investing. You. It's an interesting idea. What do we call it? We cover to mask the covered. Mats it cover to one now but the whole concept of again here's a follow the whole concept again for the radio audience that it opens up like right around above the mouth. Chin. Goes Down and opens up a clear path to the mouth for your hot dog Nachos your. Avenue but doesn't that also allow whatever air you're trying to keep out? In or out doesn't that now we have a problem here. Do we have all? Yeah there you go. And so I spoke with the infectious disease specialist for the CDC and some of the concerns that they had. But the ideas that you're not necessarily going to stop everything one hundred percent. Yes, it does minimize. So there's an automatic retraction zones you pulled it down and you eat it goes right back up is extended from the face and this allows you to eat and chew now. Yes, there is a little bit of exposure once shoe you had but everyone's not gonna be eating at the same time and while you're eating everything is contained. So those respiratory droplets are going because what we do know right now is that when you're yelling and that's when all of those respiratory droplets are me and you have a cloud of those potential covert nineteen floating in the air. So I guess we've been contained so against as long as nobody's yelling while eating, we're in good shape. BACHELORETTE's you one weakness. Eaters. Like Joey Chesnut Joey Chestnut will not be allowed in the raiders. To know cover to coney island. On July I'm going to say rich I've known out bar now for I guess it's eight nine years. This guy is one of the hardest working guys came up with this on his own this. This really is an idea that spawned from him and his passion for getting people back and so i. if he lets me I'm going to be going to be the first shark at I. Bet. I'll be I'll. Be. Cubans money. It'd be like McDonald's. Guess. My last question for you is, what are you having your Man Cave? They can help save the universe. there. Okay this. It's a mad eisman head on a stick this ever. So. excited. For those who remember the jets remember Jane Jetson we'd get onto just put this up. Shower today I Manhattan now rates. Now I'm TV ready at that. That's blue steel respiratory droplets. It's my head on a stick for the radio audience. And who doesn't have their head offices. I I wish I had. You've got you've got yourself forty in silhouette your logo that's outside of the have that that is amazing. I've known for me a guys. It's always a blast having you on. It's great to see American Ninja Warrior back year all the time. Hey, it's so great to have the NFL back. It's great to have you guys back my family. It's must see tv you can see past seasons on peacock. You can also check out American Ninja Warrior on Monday nights. For for the foreseeable future. Thanks. Donut oh as we appreciate. Ritz? You got us off Bar Bajour. And also heisman here on the rich. Eisen show. I'm telling you maybe. Akbar should call the chiefs. Yeah. He says it's anti fog. Let's at least his read the prototype he's got to add something into it though. A message budgets many fans like my ski, goggles? Many fans many fans what is to have in my ski goggles when I skied, he put those in there. Andy Reid set. He says, they're antiphon already. But I'm not fully I breathe heavy I would fog that thing I mean. Guaranteed it. I'll take him like Andy. there. Oh Boy Yeah I love it Andy Great again until until until you're playing a real a real live game he. Doesn't clearly what what Andy Reid got going on with that facial does not but act bars got the answer I. Mean You're trying to kick it up a notch with little where do the fans were they? Even the he's got the little air of breathing you can write in their boom down or up. Very. Good. Okay I'm competition. He's got a provisional patent or no. I told him I'll take one percent. Remember he came in here. He he creative puzzle for his book. Now he put his book and. I almost got it. That's why I'm taking this I want to help them out. Very. Good. All right. That was fun. Conversation Kevin Neal still come your phone calls eight, four, four, two, zero, four, rich Bruce, Arians is update on Mike Evans that's coming up next on the rich Eisen ship buy tickets now for Modern Drummer Festival twenty, twenty streaming on live by live Saturday September twelfth at eight PM Eastern catch performances for more than thirty. The world's best drummers including Chad Smith of red hot. Chili Peppers Taylor Hawkins of Foo Fighters Mike Portnoy Cindy Blackman Santana and many more plus a special tribute to drumming legend Neil. Peart all proceeds Benefit Brain Tumour Research at Cedars Sinai Medical. Center, in honor of Neil Peart, get your tickets today at live acts live dot com slash modern drummer, and tune in September twelfth eight PM Eastern, only on live by live. Do you own or rent your home? Sure you do and I bet it can be hard work. 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Weeds aware if this, if that was the question week one of last year I know they didn't play each other week one last year. We won last year was when Lamar Jackson threw for five touchdowns against the dolphins and you're like, that's what he's supposed to do. Team. Our poll results so far. Now that we're about. Halfway, through our show is everybody thinks the majority thinks that browns over Ravens would be the biggest upset of week one Not The supposed tanking Jaguars over the colts now that second twenty four percent cardinals over forty niners twenty, three percent. Jets let's take some phone calls Dale in Orlando has been hanging on damn near since we started coming on the air. So let's take some calls. Dale what's on your mind? Sir. Hey rich got a couple of things quickly if I could go for. Years starting show with thoughts about nine eleven. I'm told you before you are men I love how you talk about things that mean more than sports X. Dale appreciate that Two things about that, my cousin Richard. was killed in one of the towers. And did you know that? John? Thompson. Sorry about his passing was supposed to be one of the planes and at the last second. That Golf. I did not know that. No I remember him talking about that then right? Well Okay you pick the bucks to win it all the Super Bowl did. But. She didn't take Brady to be MVP. It's the bucks win the super. Bowl he's got to be the MVP. I I don't think so. I numbers of that. He may not even have the best. The bucks might not have the best record in in the NFL like or a better record than the chiefs and I. Think Mahomes is numbers. They're going to be better than Brady's I thanks for saying what you said Dale and You know an all your question here. Peter King thinks the boxer winning the super bowl and he's He he's. He's got the bucks in his a wildcard team. He's got the Saints Winning the Division. He's got the cowboys with the best record in the NFC, and got the bucks winning at all. I could see brady throwing for like forty five, hundred yards, forty, three, hundred yards right and spreading the ball around and fornet and Ronald Jones get theirs. But again, part of the reason why they're going to be better. By Brady's presence is not because he's going to be. A more prolific triggerman than James Winston, he's going to be a more careful. Triggerman, the Jameis Winston and defensively. They will be a better team fort. So there's that. Oh, by the way bronx there too which wouldn't have happened had brady not come to Tampa and my government's news as I mentioned to you. What with the bucks aspect? By the way is he's still going to be a game time decision. He did some individual work today according to Bruce Arians Yeah said, we'll see where is moral gametime to so basically what that means is you know They're not going to be completely full strength going into potentially their toughest road trip all year long. And also certainly in division and what it means for you. Fancy. Wise. If you got Mike Evans you'd better have somebody ready as wide receiver in the late window game. So keep that in mind. Back to the phone lines here Let's go to. which we do here. Patrick in Baltimore gear here on the rich Eisen show what's up Patrick? Hey rich thanks for taking my call for making it. What's on your mind? I got on my mind the. controversy or debate about onside kicking I'm not a fan of the ten or fifteen yard play 'cause there's already so little special teams anyway I don't want to get rid of. My idea though is that solely in the fourth quarter? If a team wants to onside kick it. They tell the REF. Before the play say, Hey, we're going to do an onsite CAC the rest then tells the other team. And with both teams know that it's coming you can do the old rules you can stack the line of scrimmage you can give the players four or five yards start. And if the ball goes more than ten or fifteen yards in the air. The receive it's a penalty and the receiving team automatically gets the ball. So you're saying that the onside kick. Because your point Patrick as it was seen, last night is that the player health and safety rules that were put into place on kickoffs where anybody who is kicking the ball off a loud to run up to the line of of scrimmage as the balls being kicked in old days, they would be able to run up to that line of scrimmage in time their run to go as the ball is getting kicked and thus have a full head of steam. Going Downfield Kinda like braveheart everyone would meet in the middle and it would be pretty ugly and potentially that's why the kickoffs had the highest rate of concussion of any play in professional football. They've now decided no, one can take a running start. The problem is with the Kanawha side. No. One can get to where the ball is being fielded in time for some sort of collision to take place as Chris Collins worth point out last night. So you're saying that. The element of surprise is review is removed but misses in the fourth quarter only the onside kick you can run up to the lawn scrimmage to get of steam to get to where the ball is that what you're saying. Okay. Here's the data. No I don't know the data is not y at the top. I mean, it's an interesting fix. Thank you for the call Patrick. My response would also be let's just. Let's just go for fourth and fifteen. Shawn Watson Line worth and fifteen, and the only problem again is what if they just Shawn Watson just tells brandin cooks go go run and I'll throw fifty fifty and you jump on the air and it's up to tyron wrath you to make make sure that there's no contact down the field and then they get a cheap penalty. What is the? What is the fix for that? You. Know what I'm saying I don't know if that's going to. Remove, automatic first downs off of that because then you're going to see guys just actually hammering receivers I don't know what the fixes to that five yards do it again I guess or make it four th in eighteen, thousand, five yards closer but you still need to gain the fifteen right I'm cool with that. And if because. They I told you the onside kick. Under the new rules where you can't run up to it's like it's like the penny. You. Don't you know you just leave it just leave it by the register just just in case it's needed by somebody else nobody touches them. It's it really is just a waste of time now and you just need somebody to basically fumble a clear shot at the ball coming at them right? I don't know what the fix is. Here. I would prefer an offensive play. I really would. Yeah same. It's time the moment is now. Let's go back to Ron New York what's up Ron? Rich. Next call what's on your mind? Hey Well, I just recently found out calling cabernet being unlocked to on nine hundred, twenty one where the player had the. Availability. To basically unlock hauling capping he got into the the game. What are the chances of incoming actually back in? A great question and I am telling you. We're thank you for the call. Again I know we're we're speakerphone by people because they don't know when they're going to be chosen. Pick US up. I if you can't pick. Grandkids. I honestly do not know. It's a big shrug Emoji I know madman did that when what he's got a better rating than cuyler Murray, and stuff like that. Apparently I haven't. Hey, look if you're using capper nick from the year, he made the Super Bowl, he's going to have a better rating pretty much everybody. and. That's the reason why he's so darn intriguing is that if that capture knicks still is can be the capital you get them. Why can't you go out there I don't know what he wants does I know look and I know he said last year he wants to play. And we in our it was a very moving show open on NFL network for our Tuesday show and we re aired last night, Lukla Lasorda. You know very well from the NFL Game Day. Morning. Chris. or or you did come in after you left he was after after you left. Wanting rate. Other than just helping Mariuchi pick games what he's really good at is putting together some great videos. And moving video about football being back in about in a pandemic and what's going on with Social Justice Capper nick appeared twice in that video. On NFL network and so from the NFL front office, it appears to be. An open mind I don't know about. NFL. Team. Front offices. Or ownership. But it is time to get out there. and. Certainly since again, I, Know Eric. Stonestreet gave voice to what I said and what tired Matthew said as well that not everyone in Arrowhead was booing and not everyone feels the way that whoever was doing the moment of unity or whatever might have been on the scoreboard. That offended them as if the words black lives matter should offend anybody. Because again, it doesn't mean that your life doesn't matter black lives. Matter means they want to have a black lives matter as much as yours. Good. Lord. Because clearly, it's not viewed that way by some. And those who were doing the show of unity last night. When that show of unity? Involved no American flags. In the same way that capture nick. Was not kneeling on the flag he was kneeling for what people need to pay attention to. And the fact that he wasn't standing up brought attention to what he wants you to have a conversation about and fix it wasn't about kneeling against the flag. In the same way, it was never about the flag for him those who had a problem with him and what he was doing never about the flag for them either. That's what anyone who booed that moment of unity last night. Proved to me. I'm not one of those out there. WHO IF HE GETS A job say I. Can't root for that team and. He would have to explain to me the pig socks that still pissed me off and I know it did you to Chris I mean Mike Yeah. I mean as an ex cop and knowing a lot of cops. But I get that because in the same way, I don't WANNA brush everybody with the same brush who was Boeing last night in. Kansas City. I, don't WanNa do that about law enforcement Coast to coast. Let's go. Back to Mike. In Pennsylvania. Let's take Mike NPA what's up Mike? Rich. I I wanted to say it's an honor to be on the show. I've heard you for years And it's funny because as a blind guy, I My Buddy I'll never forget this real quick about this story and I'll get into my. mind. The meat indicated to my call. I. DON'T WANNA, take up too much. About a minute and a half sadly. Taking your calls sooner. Real quick. When I first when I heard NFL network was on the air on direct TV I discovered I literally cried I was like, yes. Network devoted to my favorite sport football then. Fast forward to now, with my ego, my main concern is the offensive line, but I'm hoping this Sunday I'll be able to hear this. I am done for the Eagles back those winds, his looking he is going. On and making a cup of Moyle is on the young zone for the touchdown Mike he was jumping broadcast because Daniel, Snyder cannot bill take stay because he has to shape. SO THAT'S A. That is a great. Stabbing. Exactly, what you were doing, let's see it appears to me. Hey, let's say they can look at it but. There's only twenty five feet in the air, but let's see suggest. Done now I love girl I gotten he taught me the game ball and I wanNA thank you for. Let me one the big one thanks Mike I really. Thank you very much. Thanks for the call Mike I appreciate it. Thanks for your Phantom from the NFL network to this show and. Yeah we had we had Maryland after they won the Super Bowl we had a talk to the longtime voice to the eagles. I was great. It sounded just like them. They did wrong by the way I was crying at the creation of NFL network to. Kevin Neal is GonNa join US next hour. You should too Chris, Brockman, news update, and more. Hey, it's Ross Tucker from raw daughter football podcast among other NFL related podcasts. The former NFL often to linemen and yes, we are going to have an NFL season. It is year thankfully. So you WANNA, bet, on the Games, it is the even money podcast. 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