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Fresh update on "forrest" discussed on Chip Franklin

Chip Franklin

00:47 min | 12 hrs ago

Fresh update on "forrest" discussed on Chip Franklin

"I know I'm just a little You know what? You have to butter me up. Dude, I need a break I've been talking about You know, Delta all day and and and Trump just in the last half hour and just it's I'm going to have a few beverages tonight. I'll just put it that way. Um, let's put it this way. If you're betting on a streaming TV company, I think your your money is safe for some time to come. I don't care if there's a pandemic and people are locked down or going out of the house is just something about the news that makes people want to go home. Turn on and chill out. Yeah, well, I mean, it is. It is fascinating to me that there is everything that you would want, you know, in that regard, um, but you know, it's funny. I I was thinking about this before we can. I want to talk about what you wrote about James Corden. Wait a minute, but You know, I wonder about the last five years. You know the I think that the trump presidency which is, um you know, the aftermath is still you know, fresh kind of like a You know a dog poop. You can still smell it and it's there and we've got to deal with that. But, um, you know, I looked back at you know the pandemic and I know that they're in production with premonition, not in production, but they're putting it together. The script is being written. Um and which is the you know the book by, um Michael Lewis. Michael Lewis. Thank you And, you know, I think about this and I how How does that process work? When you have an event that needs I mean, I know kind of how this works, but I know that somebody established Producers will come in and say we want to do this. And then even before they write the script, they tried it. They cast it, Which is funny, that people you know, I'm gonna do a story about this, and then they cast it and then they go through about 50 different scripts until it's absolutely horrible, you know. Um, who green lights, the really good stuff and and and how Why is it so few? So little of it gets out Well, in defense of premonition, which, of course, none of us have seen yet, But Michael Lewis does have a track record. Oh, yeah, of books being converted into pretty turned good adaptations. I mean, I went back and looked at the big short awhile ago. And that holds up pretty well not, you know, and and of course, before that was Moneyball and and the blind side. In the blinds. So the reason that these health hold up is I think, in part, because, um, everybody wants to do this project. Everybody wants to do, um, a big story that has been chronicled by one of the great nonfiction writers of our time, Right, So you line up a lot of prestige for that. That's the first thing and then And then as you say, the writing has to be just right. But, you know, I think this holds true of just about any adaptation, the better the book. Higher quality. The adaptation is and likewise kind of the lesser quality of the book. The harder the more the more draft, you actually have to go through the script, and you you and I have talked about this before one of the ones that always comes to mind. I always forget to bring it up with you. Is Forrest Gump, which is based on a not very good short story by Winston Groom. Right? I've read some of the Winstons other stuff, and it's better than Forrest Gump. But Forrest Gump was just the perfect thing to turn into 2.5 hour movie. I can give you two other examples. Horrible book, Great movie Jaws horrible book. Did you ever read it? Remember in the book that remember it. The Richard Dreyfuss character has an affair with Brody's wife in the book. I mean, it's stupid, stupid, the other one, which is even more remarkable. Is three days of the Condor. The book was called six Days of the Condor. James Grady wrote it. It was horrible. It was something that, um I forget this story because his next novel was amazing, Called River of Darkness just blew me away, and I didn't want to read it because, you know, In fact, I got it like a year after it been out. Um, And it was amazing. Um, the other. There are many cases where movies were better than books. I think last one here that did you read the book Hannibal by Thomas Harris that the movie was based on I did not. But you know this. I think Hannibal isn't Hannibal though the case of a book It was written so that it could be turned into a movie. No. Well, maybe except that Let me tell you how it ends. Lonesome Dove. Whatever the sequel to Lonesome Dove, and I thought Hannibal and a couple of other ones, you know that the first book was so popular that they that they had together another movie out. And then, of course, they had the basic book. So the book came out first and then the movie and it was, Yeah. Well, no, but at the end, and then spoiler alert for anybody is going to read the book. If you saw the movie, you know, in the end, um he gets away again, right? And And? And Jodie Foster doesn't catch him, You know, and then and you know, the cop ends up beating his own brains. It was just crazy, but Um, in the book and Jodie Foster is captured by him and becomes his concubine. And, uh And so everybody read that one. You can make a movie, but no one will ever see this movie. So they said, you know, they took it and they wrote a script and he sold it, But I don't think he wrote the book..

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11-Year-Old Boy Injured in Accidental Shooting in North Columbus

Glenn Beck

00:18 sec | Last month

11-Year-Old Boy Injured in Accidental Shooting in North Columbus

"Accidents shooting on Columbus North East side sent an 11 year old boy to the hospital last night happened just after 8:30 P.m. at the home off Forrest Hill Boulevard. The victim was taken the nationwide Children's Hospital rushed into surgery and is expected to recover. Police say they detained the 14 year old boy who pulled the trigger, but didn't say if charges would be

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Maple Leafs Beat Canadiens 5-1 in Game 2 to Tie Series

AP News Radio

00:39 sec | 2 months ago

Maple Leafs Beat Canadiens 5-1 in Game 2 to Tie Series

"Total scored a pair of goals on the power play down the Canadians five wanted Scotiabank arena well you Kneeland arrested seventeen Alex Kerfoot and choose a sponsor complimented Austin Matthews knight who finished with a goal and two assists people that are simple that's when we are able to move around each side's nicer the stock I think for us we just making sure that no simplicity of an emotional when was the first for the captain John to Forrest who is sidelined indefinitely after suffering a concussion in game one yes very talk again he was alone have parchment to beat Jack Campbell game three goals Monday night in Montreal John other big trouble

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What Could a College Football Super League Look Like?

Comeback Szn

00:52 sec | 3 months ago

What Could a College Football Super League Look Like?

"I wanna talk about the super league. Right to the super league takes over Soccer and for forty eight hours eight hours and now it's gone. It's a thing of the past. It was a nice wispy thing. It's like at the end of forrest. Gump it's a little feather. They just flies up and just goes away and then the super league is gone forever but it did cancer. The imagination is a pretty much fans of every other sport who came up with their own superleague for their sport. Now this happened a lot in college football as the lazy among us decided to just do a super league not me. I have the super. Oh kaley coming out. But so the super league proposed by andy staples he has. Let's see fifteen teams only team all right. Well there was only twelve. Or i think there's only twelve in the super league. Now they were gonna eventually get the twenty. they're starting with twelve broke alias. Twenty-five i liked this

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Justin Fairfax Accuses Terry McAuliffe of Treating Him Like Emmett Till

Doug Stephan

00:45 sec | 4 months ago

Justin Fairfax Accuses Terry McAuliffe of Treating Him Like Emmett Till

"The old governor who's planning on running for governor again, and Justin Fairfax, the rapists lieutenant governor whose star rose in the Democrat Party after being Repeatedly accused of rape very credibly by women. He became more popular in the Democrat Party and yesterday just in Fairfax is black. And he accused Terri make awful of treating him like George Floyd. And he brought Emmett till into it, too remarkable stuff. These people, the racism that these people spread is just and keeping in mind. They're the party of Jefferson Davis and the Confederacy of Nathan Bedford Forrest in the clan. They're the party of everything awful every racial stain in the history of the country. Bull Connor and Orval Faubus and George Wallace and Robert Byrd and the Oh

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The Yogurt Shop Murders

Ghost Town

04:29 min | 6 months ago

The Yogurt Shop Murders

"Today. We're gonna be talking about another harder incredibly intriguing but again the details in this will be difficult. This is a famous austin case. A four teenage girls found dead in an incinerated yogurt shop. This is the yogurt shop. Murders and december sixth nineteen ninety-one. It was a chilly friday night. In austin texas fifteen year old. Sarah harbison and her thirteen year old friend. Amy eire's or airs again apologies. If i get names wrong. Were at north. Chris mall in downtown austin in nineteen ninety-one they were milling around shopping. Just kind of killing time until sarah's sister jennifer and her friend and coworker allies at thomas. Seventeen with their late shift which would end around eleven pm. jennifer analyzer worked at the. I can't believe it's not yogurt. Shop located in the hillside strip mall blocks away from north cross mall. I can't believe it's yogurt. Is something that i was familiar with but again it's a very it's kind of a heavier. Texas chain founded in nineteen seventy seven. It's a pretty cool job to have. I can imagine as a teenager. You know easy kind of fun. i would also imagine. Sarah was excited that iran ten pm when she went to help jennifer analiza close up that she was. You know getting ready for her weekend. It was friday night. They were all going to to a friend's for sleepover party afterwards. It's it feels like a very. And this i think is what gets me too. It feels like a very like typical nineties. That i would have absolutely been part of and i could see myself in this specific time and place just before midnight austin police department officer troy gay was patrolling the area. He noticed smoke rising up from the strip mall. Gear reported as a fire and firefighters soon arrived on the scene as they were extinguishing the blaze. They saw it wasn't just a fire. It was a murder scene jennifer. Sarah amy elisa were dead. All of the girls were naked bound gagged with their own clothing jennifer. Sarah eliza were found deep in the store and a kind of supply closet clustered into one corner allies. And sarah were stacked on top of each other while jennifer lay close by legs were spread wide open. One body had an ice cream scoop placed on it. They were all shot in the back of the head. Execution style with a twenty two lead bullet. Sarah's hands have been tied behind her with a pair of underwear that she had also been gagged with and she was raped. Jennifer was not bound but her hands behind her back. Elisa have been gagged in her hands were also tied behind her their bodies were burned almost beyond recognition with napkins and other flammable items from around the shop on top of them clearly used to help burn their bodies. They also doused and lighter fluid. The fire was so bad in the room. Austin reporter. Dick ellis recounts the melted. The top rungs of a heavy aluminum ladder in the back of the store. Amy's body was discovered alone in a room closer to the main dining area. She was not as hard as friends but she received second and third degree burns on twenty five to thirty percent of her body. She was found with a sock like cloth around her neck. She had been raped shot similarly to the others but the bullet had missed her brain. She had a second bullet which did go through her brain hitting her cheek and exiting through her jaw based on the patterns in the rooms. Killer may have stacked all four bodies on top of each other but amy had pulled herself off and managed to crawl out to a different part of the store. There was five hundred and forty dollars missing from the store itself. Police also deduced. The two guns had been used to commit the murder suggesting there were multiple killers in the days. After i mean everyone was obviously incredibly upset but of course a lot of cases that we talk about lots of mistakes were made and lots of people were suspects. The police department had over three hundred suspects initially and lots of false confessions right out the gate. The i suspect was a fifteen year old maurice pierce who was caught with a twenty two handgun in north crest mall the same night as the murderers. The same gun used to kill at least one of them. Eight days later he was brought in although he initially promising information after tough questioning detectives decided maurice was trying to get himself out of a gun charge and eliminated him and his three friends that he had implicated. Michael scott roberts springsteen forrest wellborn. All of them were under seventeen. When pierce's gun was tested. The ballistic showed it didn't match the murder weapon. Also fingerprints and hair collected from the crime. Seed didn't match any of the four teens. Eventually the investigators just moved on still austin looked feverishly around for the person or people who could have done such a terrible thing

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Radical Compassion with Tara Brach

Being Well with Dr. Rick Hanson

06:10 min | 6 months ago

Radical Compassion with Tara Brach

"Hello and welcome to being well. I'm forrest hanson. If you're new to the podcast this is where we explore the practical science of lasting wellbeing. And if you've listened before welcome back. i'm joined today as usual by dr rick hansen. So dad how are you doing today. I'm good and i'm especially good because we're going to have a chance to talk with someone who's been a profound benefactor for me personally which is a term that really means something to me as well as a teacher and a friend and just one heck of a personal the way around. Tara brach so. I'm really happy that we're going to be doing this as super happy to be here with tara. Tara is the founder and guidance. Teacher the insight meditation community of washington dc one of the largest residential meditation centers in the united states prior to that as you said she earned her doctorate in clinical psychology and developed a clinical practice or teaching blends those two backgrounds western psychology and eastern spiritual practices mindful attention to our inner life and then a full compassionate engagement with the outside world which has been perhaps particularly challenging recently. Tara has taught all over the world and is the author of three books radical acceptance true refuge and most recently radical compassion. Which i believe just came out in paperback and podcast is also. I think the largest buddhism focused podcast in the world. Which is pretty incredible. If you like what we're doing here you should definitely get a lesson so tara. It's great to have you here today. How are you doing fires thank you. I am totally delighted to both of you. You're both deers in my heart. Yeah that's sweet. one reason. I wanted to really talk with you. Including in terms of current events has to do both with your new book radical compassion which integrates acceptance and compassion and in particular. I wanna ask you about your use of the word. Radical your first book was radical acceptance. What's the distinction between acceptance and compassion or radical acceptance and radical compassion. What did you mean by that by drawing attention to that word including perhaps in light of current conditions. I've always loved the word radical. Ever since i thought i was a left wing radical in the old days so it has a positive impact but it has to do with going to the roots and there are many expressions that the heart that are really beautiful and i was really wanting to explore the most pure and full-bodied expression of acceptance and compassion. What they mean really in terms of freedom so in both books whether it with acceptance. It's like what does it mean when we unconditionally accept this moment as it is and we fully earned bodied. So we're not just accepting but we're actually fueling the moment so are completely here present and with compassion. What is true compassion. What's mature compassion. Look like feel like. How do we cultivate ed. And it became clear to me that a lot of people have an abstract sense of compassion. Like we'll hear about if we don't have covert or people losing parents with covid but not having to ask though. Be something in us that goes. Oh that's so sad but it's abstract it's not a tenderness in the heart so radical compassionate embodied nor fully here to experience being touched by the suffering and it includes an activity of caring and engage caring so again with both of those qualities of the heart a really wanted to bring alive what it meant to have the most mature evolve version of them. You're a psychologist as well as longtime buddhist practitioner and you have root zoom eastern traditions as well broadly and also europe. Practical person of a functioning. Business you've raised a son. I wondered how you wove all those threads together especially in your interest in getting out the roots of things really the deep roots blah. That's like a really big. And deep question your guam radical to there we go so one of my guiding teachings from this is three saga datta and i come back to this one quote. All the time is that wisdom tells me. I'm nothing love tells me i'm everything. And between the two my life flows. And i find with the radical deep practices. We actually see unveils. What is true is. There's no thing or person here and there's a really deep wisdom and that a real freedom from holding on an openness and were also everything it's like when we send that emptiness there is this fastness. That feels that the whole world is part of us and this is going somewhere in terms of your question that i find in my own life by go off to retreat. It gets very quiet. And i can see clearly the emptiness the no thing ness that. There's nobody here but it's not until engagement with the world and feeling both the suffering and also as i'm just looking at you because your dear friend seeing the goodness and really feeling at that i sent the everything nest that we really are of the same consciousness and awareness were emergent expressions of it and so in my life. It's been a gift to be both really in the mix with humans with social activism with the whole mass and also create the pauses the silence and the stolnis that allows that seen through to the radical roots of the nature of things. And i feel like that blend flowing. It's not really a flow between one thing another. They're utterly inter penetrating but that feels like a very alive path to me.

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Bernie Sanders' mittens, memes help raise $1.8M for charity

AP News Radio

00:51 sec | 6 months ago

Bernie Sanders' mittens, memes help raise $1.8M for charity

"You may be laughing at those photoshopped images of senator Bernie Sanders in his winter coat and mittens but they're raising a lot of money for charity the Vermont senator bundled up on inauguration day getting photoshopped into the cast of friends with Forrest Gump on a bench on the moon and on the bridge of the starship enterprise but the social media phenomenons raised nearly two million dollars for Vermont charities Bernie Sanders has been selling shirts and stickers of himself in that brown parka and wool mittens he says the chair man Sanders merchandise keeps selling out online even Getty images will be donating its proceeds to add the Sanders photo two meals on wheels and Burton snowboards is donating fifty jackets to Vermont families Jackie Quinn Washington

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The Story of Auld Lang Syne

Talk, Tales and Trivia

06:56 min | 7 months ago

The Story of Auld Lang Syne

"Well when this time of year rolls around you probably will hear one song and one song in particular seemingly over and over again. Quick note here. I was listening to my christmas traditional songs. And i kept hearing it. But what song am i talking about. Well i just told you old. Elaine sign it does have a rather big nostalgia meaning to it and along with it here in the united states. A bit of sadness and usually marks an emotional scene or we action. The song. old lang sign was originally written in scottish. When taken apart and put back together again. An- actually means old long sense and is translated yet again to mean all times sake or for the sake of old times this song that is mostly sung and means the emotional conclusion to another year. And don't we need that. It also means that one must remember people from their past and raise a toast to them. Originally it was written many many years ago as a scottish celebration song. Old lang zayn is actually a scottish language. Written by robert burns in seventeen eighty eight and set to the tune of a traditional folk song. But did you know that. In the netherlands. It is a soccer anthem and in japan. It is a song about firefly's and and south korea. It was the national anthem until nineteen forty eight. It is known as being easily adaptable and mostly all musical styles. That is why it is so cool but at its core it is well known and many countries especially in the english speaking world. It's traditional use. Being to bid farewell to the old year at the stroke of midnight on new year's eve it is also sung at funerals graduations and as a farewell or ending to other asians the international scouting movement in many countries uses it to close jamborees and other functions and a little note here when i was watching the crown on netflix day. Sung it when they said goodbye to the prime minister. Certainly most of us know the song old lang zayn but to quote from the first stanza of the english version of the james watson ballad. Here it goes should be aware since be forgot and never thought upon the flames of love extinguished and fully past and gone is thy sweetheart now grown so cold that loving breast of nine the thou cast never once reflect on old lang zayn in scotland. It is common practice that everyone joins hands with the person next to them. To form a great circle around the dance floor at the beginning of the last verse. Everyone crosses their arms across their breast so that the right hand reaches out to the neighbor on the left side and vice versa win the tune ends everyone rushes to the middle while still holding hands when the circle is re established everyone turns under the arms to end up facing outward with hands still joined in countries other than scotland. The hands are often crossed from the beginning of the song at variance with scottish custom. And did you know. The scottish practice was demonstrated by queen elizabeth second at the millennium dome celebrations for the year. Two thousand some press outlets berated her for not properly crossing her arms. She was unaware that she was incorrectly. Following the scottish tradition and because of its easy tune and melody it was also used as a song to signify for the war to end having the title. I wish the war was over and it was a popular anti-slavery song entitled fling out. The anti slavery flag both were using old anxiety as the basis for those songs. If you listen closely you can hear the song all lang sign and many movies too. Well did you know that these movies are we willie winkle a nineteen thirty seven. Shirley temple movie when her character sings to console a dying soldier. Mr smith goes to washington the nineteen thirty nine movie. Ocean's eleven the original of nineteen sixty as background music and the poseidon adventure one of my favorites that was made in nineteen seventy two ghostbusters and nineteen eighty nine. When harry met sally in nineteen eighty nine as well forrest gump in nineteen ninety four and elf and two thousand and three and most notably the very last song that is in the movie. It's a wonderful life with jimmy stewart. It is after all probably the best feel good ending in a classic movie ever with plenty of emotion for the main character at the last scene of the movie which brings george bailey the main character to tears as he acknowledges how great life really is and it is always at the stroke of midnight composer guy lombardi would play it on the radio and continued the tradition for fifty years afterwards. Dick clark took it up to play at the stroke of midnight on. Dick clark's new year's rocking eve. Every year and new york city as the big ball dropped at the stroke of midnight but after dick clark retired from the show ryan. Seacrest did the same at the stroke of midnight every year. They all had something in common with playing the song. It was an remembrance of those that came before and at the same time to mark the new year. All the fans and celebrators would sing along to the classic song so this year twenty twenty when the clock strikes. Twelve a m sing along to this classic song. Even if you don't know all the words we are indeed saying goodbye to twenty twenty

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Man who found Forrest Fenn's famed treasure reveals identity

Kottke Ride Home

05:15 min | 8 months ago

Man who found Forrest Fenn's famed treasure reveals identity

"So in an episode over the summer i talked about the treasure which had finally been found by an anonymous treasure hunter in june and after being adamant that he never wanted to reveal his identity. The finder of the treasure chest has just gone public blowing. The lid on most of his secrets in an article written by a fellow treasure hunter. In outside a quick recap though forest finn was an air force pilot who later opened an art gallery in santa fe new mexico one filled with plenty of forgeries as arts as tried to do people unclear in nineteen eighty eight. He received a terminal cancer diagnosis and decided to hide treasure chest in some outdoor location for people to find but then he recovered from the cancer. Still he didn't wanna give up on his treasure hunt idea so fast forward to two thousand and ten when quoting outside thin treasure chest containing gold and other valuables estimated to be worth at least a million dollars somewhere in the rocky mountains not long after he published a memoir called the thrill of the chase which included a mysterious twenty four line poem that if solved would lead searchers to the treasurer fended suggested the loot was secretive. Way at the place where he had envisioned lying down to die back when he believed his cancer diagnosis terminal since the hunt began in two thousand ten many thousands of searchers had gone out in pursuit at least five of them losing their lives in the process and the chase became an international story and quote. And yeah i mean the whole thing really has been a wild story people have lost their lives and livelihoods there have been countless lawsuits. You can read all kinds of articles about that have been published over the last ten years leading up to this year when in june the treasurer was finally found and the man who found it decided to stay anonymous because he knew how intense the community of treasure hunters is any feared for his safety but then quickly announced that he had met the winner and verified. He indeed had found the chest the to also decided to keep the location a secret so that it wouldn't become a kind of tourist site where people might injure themselves getting there were risk damaging the nature around it but all of that anonymity lack of closure did not sit well with people who had dedicated years of their lives to finding the treasure there was instant suspicion and then in september fourth fin passed away. The one man who could maybe smooth things over was gone and those left behind were even more dedicated to making sure. His wishes were upheld. With all of that has come a number of court cases in particular one from a woman claiming that the finder of the treasure hacked her emails to steal part of the puzzle that she herself had solved. She doesn't seem to have too much of a case however since she thought the chest was in new mexico and it turned out to be in wyoming but the case is still proceeding in the winner knew that his name would be released to the public as it goes on so he decided to preempt that by outing himself on his own terms the winner. Is jack still a thirty two year. Old medical student originally from michigan. He's keeping as many personal details as possible under wraps to protect his privacy but he does have a bit of a digital paper trail before to med school. He worked briefly at the onion and as a freelance writer. In fact he is the guy who wrote that totally inaccurate article eight years ago trying out matthew inman of the oatmeal as a far right wing. Republican in article buzzfeed had to issue a public apology for and which. I didn't realize until today that i still believed even after meeting matthew in minutes out by south west that same year back in two thousand twelve and discovering that he was a super nice guy. I still thought. Oh but some article made it. Seem like he secretly a jerk. I wonder if that's true. Which is a lesson for me in media literacy and not believing everything that i read especially when it seems pretty off base but also for all of us that no matter how many corrections or apologies you might issue online. There will still be tons of people who only ever see the mistake. That's a lesson that jack stiff learned early on in his career as a comedy writer and is probably part of why he has taken so many pains to remain anonymous in the case of backlash to him finding the prize. If and win all the court cases die down. What will still do with his findings. What does one do with an actual. The goodness treasure loaded up with jewels and artifacts. Stuff says he'll use it to pay off his student so yup the most accurate millennial answer possible to coming into unexpected fortune of. I still have to get the chest appraised which he hasn't done yet and between fins knack for forgeries and his wish that part of the chest displayed publicly so people can visit it. Who knows how much stuff will actually end up getting for all of his efforts but we finally have a few more pieces to the story. If you want to learn more keep an eye out for a book coming out next year called chasing the thrill written by daniel barbara. The writer and fellow treasure hunter. Who got checks to to go public

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No. 6 Kansas, behind Braun's 30 points, tops St. Joe's 94-72

AP News Radio

00:35 sec | 8 months ago

No. 6 Kansas, behind Braun's 30 points, tops St. Joe's 94-72

"Christian brown poured in thirty points to six right Kansas bounced back from Thursday's loss to number one good Zack at defeating St Joseph's ninety four seventy two brown made ten of thirteen shots hit five three pointers and added nine rebounds after subpar performance against the zags be more aggressive this game just because you know I didn't play as well as I should have yesterday John Wilson at fourteen points for the Jayhawks who trailed by two early in the second half before reeling off twenty one to six run Kansas made fifty percent of the chats and had a fifty one thirty three advantage in rebounds Jack Forrest had eighteen points for the hawks on the ferry

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How to Handle Major Life Transitions

SoberSoul Recovery: Addiction, Sobriety, and Beyond!

04:27 min | 9 months ago

How to Handle Major Life Transitions

"Hey sober sellers oh modernise. It is finely the week of the big move. I know many of you are saying not unlike some of my friends. You've been talking about this. Move for a bit now lynn. I have only because this is part of my recovery. I'll explain more as we get into the podcast but wanna share with you. I why this is somewhat a culmination of the planning that i began. Who we back in two thousand ten two thousand eleven two thousand twelve. When i was just getting my footing in the whole idea that my life was going to be so very different than it had been for the previous forty six years. I was scared. Initially and i was not really focused on much beyond stopping drinking yet. Eventually i became someone who is really curious about how i could use my new skills that i was learning in practice seen every day every week every month and what that would do to my future. What possibilities might open up for me. And when i let myself think about and hope and be open to changes. How was i happy to know that. I could dream at the ripe old age of forty six and forty seven and forty eight and decide to go and get my master's degree. And what did that mean. Sure it meant. I had to sell a house and i had the move and start a newer life Three hours away. From where i had been living as i had gotten sober in those first two years and i went with it. I decided with the help of people who were supporting and helping me at the time to understand that. I was sure enough afraid of what i was about to do. But more so engaged in a process of living life that would help me cope with whatever fears and whatever things came up on the daily. Because of what i was about to myself into and that was a whole bunch of new things. Change is moving away renting a house. You know meeting a bunch of new people starting an education program. After god knows how many years all of that was really really scary and ultimately it allowed the discovery in me. That i could do these things and i could actually move through them not perfectly but with an outcome that i was pretty content and satisfied with so the first thing want to share with you today. Is that where i am. Moving to. i dreamt up in my head googled and figured out that a community that i had in mind. Mind's i where. I wanted to be how i want to live was actually being created right here south of atlanta outside of a nifty little town called peach tree city and at the time they were calling. It pinewood forrest which i've been calling it for this whole time as well but they recently changed the name. Because it's jason to a studio that films all the marvel comics and all kinds of really big named staff. But that's only a small part of what i moved out here for. But since it's across from the studio and the studio renamed itself two trillion with. That's what this new community is now being called the town at trilogy.

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How Our Brain Develops and Addiction.

SoberSoul Recovery: Addiction, Sobriety, and Beyond!

07:47 min | 10 months ago

How Our Brain Develops and Addiction.

"High Sober Solar 's it's Lynn from Peachtree City Georgia. Soon to. Be. Lynn from Pinewood Forrest Georgia. Oh my gosh I'm deep in the throes of moving. I. Have this coming Friday, which will be Friday the ninth of October. Three weeks until I moved into a new joint. So I'm really excited I'm not getting much sleep I'm so excited. I think part of that is also because of God bless America what's going on in America? How are you all doing? Yea. Isn't this fun? Two Thousand Twenty is so much fun. Right Oh. My goodness. I. Have to share with you. One of my new coping skills in this is a beauty I am subscribing to burn doodle facebook pages, Labrador doodle facebook pages I've already been subscribed. Two hundred gazillion King. Charles. Cavalier. FACEBOOK pages. That's the kind of dog that I have and what else? Oh, Yeah Mimi, what does she? Again? You know I just said to Google. Mimi is how ridiculous is that? She is a Reykdal. It's just so nice because my facebook feed now has all of these super cute puppies and kittens in them. Yeah, you gotTa do to you gotTa do in the Year Two thousand twenty. Alrighty then I talked to my move. What I'm doing to cope animal wise this week and what else can I share with you? Oh, yeah. Part of what I'm doing. I may have mentioned this before, but if I didn't I am really minimizing. What I'm taking with me on this move and it's really hard to do. Oh my gosh, I am trying to. Only take the stuff that I. Love. Really love with me. And I'm just laughing at the process I. Don't know if any of you have tried to do this. You know you set up these boxes in your house and you're like throw away giveaway and keep and do any of you take things out of one box and put it in another repeatedly this is what I'm finding myself doing an eventually. It goes in one of the giveaway or throw away boxes but God. That's hard. It's a struggle as always trying to keep it light and bright before I dive into some Super Neuro nerdy stuff and wanted to share with you in a slightly different format. What I use in my perspective with my clients and a huge part of that perspective is neurobiology. In addiction and recovery but also something called life span development psychology L. DP how's that life span developmental psychology and how it affects addiction and recovery so are you ready cause here we go i. Let me define what L. D. P. is life span developmental psychology it is the scientific study of growth and Change Yeah throughout our human development it examines thoughts feelings behaviors in how they change during a person's life and how this change over the span of our life encompasses takes in biology social emotional and cognitive processes process the eased. Although there are typical pathways of development that most individuals follow no two people are exactly alike in the way that they change immature time. This is why cut and paste kind of treatment. Doesn't work for the most part. As an aside I don't know if any of you are watching the documentary on what is it on? Hbo I think called the vow and it's about this group called nexium that was delivering what they called quote Unquote Tech around personal development and what their tech was was trying to outline a step by step process at how to get what you. You're supposed to get personal development in insight into your own behavior and your inner life. When you work with a counselor, they were trying to do it sequentially and Nice little package and boy Oh, boy does this happen a lot that's reproducible that can be given to anybody. So you go through these courses and that the end you've gotten some remarkable insight into yourself. However. The problem with that is that you are all individuals over time your. Stuff. That comes into your system is going to be different at and happen at different times than your siblings even. So when people attempt to apply like programming if you will to the human psyche. It must be individualized and that comes only through discussion individual discussion over time with an individual. When I'm working with a client, I am going to look to help them you explain your life to make sense of your past in the present by looking at your environment and things that have precipitated or prevented growth and changes across your lifespan. Looking at things that optimize development in order to optimize or clarify or give you good outcomes what must be done is to apply appropriate theories to help you develop missing skills and navigate these situations that you navigated all by yourself way back when with no modeling healthy modeling and no real intervention terrible word. But that's the word we use intervention by somebody who knew what they were doing in, for instance, the realm of communication or the realm of dealing with. Emotions all that kind of stuff. So if you pull back and look at the stages of human development, there are predictable stages, but any number of circumstances can interrupt that normal development at any stage or age, and then lead to arrange of problems which might include substance use ongoing addiction issues or a multitude of other mental health illnesses. Let's briefly go through those stages. The first one is prenatal development development in the womb has an important impact on early psychological

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Rita Wilson Shares Emotional Story Behind Single 'Everybody Cries'

On Air with Ryan Seacrest: The Post Show

06:30 min | 10 months ago

Rita Wilson Shares Emotional Story Behind Single 'Everybody Cries'

"It is one or two point seven Kiss FM, this is such a treat for me the one and only Rita Wilson. Welcome how are you? I am so happy to be here. Thank you so much for having me today actress producer singer Songwriter Philanthropist, I mean, the list goes on you basically do it all the last time that we spoke to you. I think was back in early May I mean, have you been these past few months? Totally back to health back to the daily life as we know it today in the sort of Instill Cohen ways that we do things. and. Then God really in good. Health. That's good. That's really good to hear. So I, mean I wanted to speak to you about your single everybody cries because for anybody that doesn't know it is featured in the movie, the outpost which came out over the summer and it I mean, what was it like creating a song like that for a war drama movie like that Thank you, Yeah I got a call. From the director Rod, Laurie who is also one of my co writers along with leary. Group. Pay on Sonia. And because the movie is based on a true story on that on a book that Jake Tapper wrote called the outposts about this horribly tragic battling Camdessus Ghanistan. They wanted to ask if I'm interested in Co writing and performing the song so I was able to. Do this all. All on basically social distancing even though yeah, were out yet. We still did it remotely. And the the movie is I related to it and the sense that you know if you're a mother or you have a brother or you have an uncle, a dad something and you and you have lost somebody in banner or your family member or woman, a matter woman has gone to the military and served our country to me. It felt like it was a bit of my own service to be able to even participate in this song and honors of the lives lost. And to tell the story of this film when this tragic battle. Yeah Oh my goodness what let's take a listen to it right now have a a little clip of it for at one. Buddy cry. Everybody die. It's the truth and makes us while. It's the sent hung. As, we take the lonely path. On the row. Man. Beneath the darkening sky. Curson and one do why Is Fear Weeks. Then the devil comes to. We sink in mortals. On the role to the. Man. WHO WILL BE? On where? In It is such a beautiful song I'm here with Rita Wilson. A Beautiful Song. Thank you so much it Thank you. I'm hearing grammy rumors for everybody cries. Eligible for grammy. Great. From your lips to the. grammys. Ears. That's what I. I mean, there's there's even Oscar Buzz I saw I was reading that varieties it's an varieties Oscar contender list I mean what how does that? Make you feel? It's just fantastic. I loved people are hearing the song and there I know that they're listening to ensure examing it on here. At the movie and that's always an indication that people are responding. So I'm super happy. I hope that they that the song resonates with them they for maybe a little bit about. The men and women and service people who gave their lives for our country and we'll continue to give her lesser our country. So I'm quite humbled by really. Well, you know. Thank you so much for coming on and talking to us today yes. Let's put up the grammy vibes for everybody cries I mean a lot of candle as my dad would say I love eating the weather Lupu tonight for you. Okay. And before you go actually we are such big fans of you and your husband Tom Hanks I needed to show you this picture of my family at Halloween last year because actually I'm going to text it to you. So you can actually show it to your husband, but we dressed up as forrest gump and Jenny. And, the twins were teasing carrots. That's really good. Really. Actually. I have to say. You know what was very proud of that one I felt like I really thought outside the box with making the twins, peas and carrots. See what could you do that? So inclined thinking maybe there's a toy story in your future. Oh. My Gosh, we're doing we're doing toy story this year. I kid you not the twins are going to be the slinky dog as is going to be the front and Max is going to be the back and my husband's going to be woody I'm going to be both. Good Alright picture of that you have. I will I will I'll send you all of the goodness. Rita. Wilson. Thank you for hanging out again, if you WANNA, get the full version of the song everybody cries it's up right now at Kiss FM DOT com. The outpost is streaming on Netflix. At such a great movie. You should definitely watch that as well. Thank you for hopping on resume. Thank you so

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Forrest Gump author Winston Groom dies aged 77

America's Morning News

00:39 sec | 11 months ago

Forrest Gump author Winston Groom dies aged 77

"Groom, the writer whose novel Forrest Gump was made into an Oscar winning 1994 movie that became an enduring cultural phenomenon has passed away. His death confirmed Thursday by Alabama Governor K. Ivy and the mayor of Fair Hope, Alabama. It's where a groom lived a Forrest Gump. Of course, the improbable tale of a slow witted man who was a participant Teo are witness to key points of the 20th century. History was slow witted. I don't know, I think Forced was always the smartest guy in the room. If you ask me, the movie won the best picture for best Oscar picture, I should say, and five other Academy Awards, including best actor when For Tom Hanks.

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'Forrest Gump' author Winston Groom dead at 77

News, Traffic and Weather

00:34 sec | 11 months ago

'Forrest Gump' author Winston Groom dead at 77

"Into a six Oscar winning movie in 1994. Hello. My name's Forrest Forrest Gump. There is word from fair Hope, Alabama this morning that author Winston Groom has died. There is no word On the cause of his death. The movie, Forrest Gump became a soaring pop culture phenomenon. A local funeral home said arrangements were pending. Winston Groom, author of Forrest Gump. With 77. You're listening to ABC News. Balance of

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'Forrest Gump' author Winston Groom dead at 77

AP News Radio

00:59 sec | 11 months ago

'Forrest Gump' author Winston Groom dead at 77

"Author Winston groom writer of Forrest Gump has died at seventy seven Winston groom's novel Forrest Gump about a slow witted Alabama man who took part in or witness key historic events in the second half of the twentieth century became a cultural hit in nineteen ninety four when Tom Hanks starred in the Oscar winning film my mom always told me that miracles happen everyday some people don't think so but they do go up was on the university of Alabama campus during governor George Wallace's stand in the schoolhouse door just says groom was before he graduated in nineteen sixty five god was a Vietnam vet as was groom the character also met with president Kennedy and Nixon and John Lennon mayor Karin Wilson a Fairhope Alabama said in a message posted on social media groom died at that south Alabama town where he lived he was seventy seven I'm Tim acquire

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Ana Forrest & Jose Calarco - Forging Your Own Path

The Flow Artists Podcast

04:53 min | 1 year ago

Ana Forrest & Jose Calarco - Forging Your Own Path

"Hello Joe. It's Jose Calico and Anna Forest Tia on all CA silent USA. And just by what you see what's going on in the mainland in the US I. And we're I a Saif. He only island in a Beautiful Anna's house thirty acres in lush forest with owls and eagles, and deason vouchers. Would really enjoying actually the lockdown. After five or six years of non stop touring thirty five CDs and countries a year. With had the chance to settle down and? We do have still very, very busy with our online channel and running out business each day we do a nice lengthy yoga practice. I'm a vegan chefs are cooking more than ever. Where actually very, very healthy. And so much has changed joke. Since we last spoke the world has gone absolutely crazy. And the US is one of those places where just off the mainland here. And not too far from here there's riots and shooting and racial tensions. All sorts of crazy crazy stuff going on a lot of it is a countdown to the election. Coming up here in the US I. There's a lot of manipulation lots of lies. Very hard to trust many people right now. So. Much. Going on. But We a happy to announce that old during this lockdown. We've had the opportunity to finally record all online yoga music ceremony shamanism philosophy Joe Prayers, go out to Victoria and all Ustralia Week here how harsh the lockdown is over there and I just lucky that we were able to do the lockdown thirty Acre forest. However, we seem to allow best wishes to Victoria and Australia, and we pray that our freedoms come back again. Go, and Jose. Thank you so much for speaking with us today all the way over in New Zealand the beautiful. Put Her. Could. We stop heads of your connections to first nations culture. Would you like to share how you live and work within indigenous communities and Foams what you share today? Absolutely. Well. I have been director all descendants aboriginal and Torres Strait Island Dance Company for twenty. Five years. People can see that descendants dot com you. We've traveled to the four corners of the planet we have done the world's biggest events over forty countries were visited. And this is where I got my background. In, aboriginal culture and my aboriginal Mahba spiritual mother Imelda Willis came from the dingy. Kanju clans Al-Faw North Queensland. She is now deceased. And we still descendants still together. And this just gave us the idea I had already. Doing first nations work in forest job. But I took it a couple of steps further by doing. Exchange all over the world while wearing Australia, we do Australian aboriginal stuff while we're in the US CY cultural exchange with the Americans. All first nations people in Mexico in Canada. Everywhere we go. We liked to do cultural exchange because first nations have spirituality was is beautiful and untouched by white middle class sort of new age is symptoms. So, with the aboriginal culture, it's the world's all this culture. It goes well over fifty thousand years and it was well before yoga and a lot of people site what has first nation. Philosophy principles and culture got to do with Yoga. And it actually has a lot to do with Yoga when we look at Yoga in the broader perspective as a place learning and healing.

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Tom Hanks in Talks to Play Geppetto in Disney’s ‘Pinocchio’

San Diego's Morning News with Ted and LaDona

00:30 sec | 1 year ago

Tom Hanks in Talks to Play Geppetto in Disney’s ‘Pinocchio’

"Tom Hanks is in talks to play Gepetto in Disney's Live action version of Pinocchio. The project would reunite director Robert Zemeckis and Hank's who had previously worked together on Forrest Gump. Cast away and the Polar Express. The animated version of Pinocchio was released in 1940 Madonna was there for the opening, produced by produced by Walt Disney Productions and based on Carlo Cody's Children's book, The Adventures of Pinocchio.

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"forrest" Discussed on Awakening with Jay Nelson Forrest

Awakening with Jay Nelson Forrest

12:52 min | 1 year ago

"forrest" Discussed on Awakening with Jay Nelson Forrest

"Hello and welcome to my podcast. I'm Jay forced the spiritual skeptic today. I WanNa talk about saying goodbye so I'm GONNA say goodbye in the podcast for awhile. I'm going on sabbatical however going to be a long sabbatical how how long. I don't know what I'm doing is I'm actually in the process of putting all my thoughts now into a book and this is the book. This is the one that will completely a disea- explain body Taoism in order to do that. I need need to put all my concentration and focus on the book so unfortunately I cannot continue to podcast asked and do all the production and stuff for the podcast and advertising and posting and all that other stuff so I am taking a sabbatical it. I'm assuming it'll be a year sabbatical but I don't know it depends on how long it takes to write it. So the book will be actually entitled Bodey Taoism. I haven't decided the subtitle yet. We'll be a pretty much. A complete handbook book for the Solitary Practitioner Body Taoism. It'll go through everything from the foundations. The evidence since the spiritual practices the values the disciplines. So what I'm doing now in two. Who Twenty twenty? I'm dating the nut. Shah it'll be the nutshell twenty twenty so it will be the new addition of the nut. Show which is be the final. It'll probably the final one Until I finished the book and then I will update date the nutshell to reflect the latest thinking. What I'm finding is the more that I studied the more that I changed? A little. We'll aspects of body Taoism And actually understand a little better of the process of transformation nation from a naturalistic standpoint. The problem is that there's a lot out there a lot of spiritual paths. But they're all all almost all of our tainted with The supernatural the paranormal. The unverifiable. So going through and tried to base everything upon the evidence is actually a lot more difficult than I originally suspected and and I shouldn't say I kind of suspected it but let's just say it's it's GonNa take some work and I I need to actually you because I work a fulltime job as well. I have to work a fulltime job. I have a wife and Assan and I've scaled back everything that I can to focus on this book and the one thing I need to add to that scaling ailing back is doing the podcast. Now after I get the book done I'll probably start The podcast up again. Although probably under the body Taoism website instead of j forest so I wanted to promote Bodey Taoism and not got me if that makes sense but I want to promote promote it in a finished product not perfect product. It will never ever be perfect. I will never be satisfied with it but I wanted to get at least to the point where I've gone from the DISEA- part and dealt with what is probably the most difficult part is the interconnection between the parts. So and and this is stuff that I've worked out as I've gone and a lot of the things that that have taken place. If I change one thing in one area it affects everything else in the system. So it's kind of like a blanket. If you pull one strand you unravel the whole thing here. And that tends to sometimes happen The luckily the the foundation of scientific naturalism At least gives me a bedrock. So I don't Unravel the entire system every time and if I add that with breath What I'm calling? Existential Pantheon Awesome at Pantheon based upon or grounded in our experience of re of existence. Then those to give me a pretty solid Map of how to work this out and and right now it's When when I did the interview with John River Anki or the things he talked about as the ecology of practices the network of practices. This is and that's actually where I've done my focus since I've talked to him and come to a realize ation that there's actually Four three major ones and the fourth springs from the third one so the. The three are wiz. Our spirituality wisdom and love or altruistic love amusing using altruism because love is so misunderstood misused and then from the altruism springs forth the virtues. So you have wizz Spirituality which optimizes our consciousness. You have wisdom which optimizes sizes are cognition. You have altruistic love which optimizes our character and the virtues which optimize our conduct so I called it a threefold flame because really the virtues are are part of your character but the reason for them the importance of them in the system that I'm putting together is that the altruism is the motivating Prime willing the the highest good A principal and in order to do this. You have the virtues that operate this highest good into actual practice and that is stuff that I still have to work out the details of and that's why I have to really Get get down to concentrate in and figuring out the intercourse in intercedes of these very very fine details. That are very difficult. Because anytime you change An aspect of one. You have to see how it affects others so it's like a wheel you take spoke out. It's going to affect the whole wheel. It's going to make it wobble so you've gotTa have that idea. Yeah of Interconnection In logical terms. It's so you want to have it. correspond to the the the evidence but you also want it to be coherent within itself. You out the claims to be coherent within themselves. You want the claim clusters. There's the general belief about that particular area to be coherent and systematic. And then you want it to fit the entire world review or religion or or spiritual path you want it all to fit together and cohere and that is the. That's the really difficult. The thing that I think anybody who's ever worked on this and they're not very many obviously Philosophers pretty much gave up on doing worldviews news because postmodern says that Meta narratives are not true And now postmodernism pretty much said you no doubt all that narratives but that's like say ok since there's you know all the maps we have are not a hundred percent accurate accurate throw out all the maps. Well no you take the best map and you operate your life based upon the best map that we have just because they're perfect doesn't mean they're or not helpful And so that's why I'm working on Bodey Taoism and trying to incorporate the best of the ancient wisdom traditions traditions of what I know in that. That's the problem is I don't know what I don't know and I'm not perfect in my knowledge and there's many things that I you know Am have to learn and an order. DVD that I have to have time to concentrate focus and Get to the point. We're actually Am able to produce a solid book that gives the complete body Taoist path so okay keep in contact the best way to do that is actually to of course go to both facebook and twitter but My best thing suggestion is that you BOOKMARK BODY TAOISM DOT COM and the link is on my J. Force Dot. Org Site if you don't know how to spell boaty Taoism and then what you do is just bookmark that in comeback every couple of months and see if anything's updated and that's going to be my best suggestion once I get to the point of actually getting back to PODCASTING which again. I'm assuming I don't know I'm assuming now be done by the end of twenty twenty so maybe twenty one our twenty twenty one. I will start podcast and again No guarantees tease. I'M GONNA keep this up probably until October of twenty twenty And then my J. Forest Dot Org will all the podcast stuff will go away so in the meantime if you really want to catch up on what. I've done on my thinking. The most up-to-date thing published as my secular spirituality. It's actually a compilation. Work is everything of done Outside of the five minute Dharma podcast. transcript which is the the practical Buddhism book so practical Buddhism awesome minus that everything since two thousand eleven since I left. Christianity is in the book secular spirituality. So that's the book to get and like I said comeback of visit me You know maybe June to see if the body Dow I was a mumps updated see five Posted anything and then Maybe next Christmas you might WanNa check back so so but until then. I'm GonNa take a long sabbatical. I really appreciate you. That have spent the time listening. I hope that if you've decided to follow the body Dallas Path that you drop me an email at J. J. Forest Dot Org and let me know I know that your body Taoist. There's actually not very many people that have actually just emailed and said I'm a Bodey Taoist I think I have three people that actually have that. I don't know personally have said yes. You know I consider myself a body Taoist so let me know You know that would be interesting to me and and encouraging to me the to let me know that there's actually people who care hear about what I'm doing and and what. I'm trying to accomplish her so until next time which might be awhile. May Wisdom Guide your steps on the path of awakening..

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"forrest" Discussed on Awakening with Jay Nelson Forrest

Awakening with Jay Nelson Forrest

02:37 min | 2 years ago

"forrest" Discussed on Awakening with Jay Nelson Forrest

"Don't connection. Let let me go see the difference. It's a difficult it's not easy to be connected without attachment but you can have love and care and concern without the grasping you can have a conviction without the attachment you can have loving kindness without selfish selfish grasping and that in fact is the the ideal of Buddhism so non attachment you can better understand is not detachment. You're not severing yourself. You staying connected with people deal with relationship with things but you're not grasping them. They're not digging your claws into them. You're not asking that. They don't change range. Causing permanent is part of life. It's the the nature of reality is realities. Influx is constantly glee moving in motion and so as we go through life we have to learn to connect with people with things but not to attach to grasp cling to them when they change they changed. Let them change do not not expect things to be permanent because they never can be and that's the secret or not suffering or at least less than the suffering lessening the discontent because you're not expecting it to be other than what it is so hopefully that gives you a little insight into the Buddhist idea of non attachment just a sliver of of the teaching of Buddhism and hopefully that will help you in your relationships in your own life to be connected but not attached so thank you again for listening to the podcast. I appreciate you taking the time to tune in and if you have any questions or comments you can email me at Jay at J. Forest Dot Org and let's J. A. Y. F. O. R. R. E. S. T. DOT ORG and until next time may wisdom guide your steps on the path of awakening.

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"forrest" Discussed on Awakening with Jay Nelson Forrest

Awakening with Jay Nelson Forrest

03:19 min | 2 years ago

"forrest" Discussed on Awakening with Jay Nelson Forrest

"Getting rid of the many things and just having the essentials the things that actually give us joy and i think that that is a powerful powerful means a free us up to really enjoy find fulfillment in life rather than being slaved things and so that's an aspect of taoism that i think is important. Another one is the whole idea idea of the day idea of <hes> dow itself this principle the one became to that two of courses verses the yang and yawn <hes> young and yawn is the if you've ever seen the symbol of <hes> taichi she tie the touchy <hes> symbol is the circle with a black and a white inside that's going in a circle so if you google that you'd be able to find it circle and then within each of those there's within the white there is a little black circle within the black. There's white circle. The whole idea is that the universe is a unity of pleura perlexity a unity of two and i think this is actually really really an important aspect <hes> that we don't take really seriously <hes> for for every out. There's an out for every in. There's an out for every boy. There's a girl for every positive there's negative for every hot. There's a cold for day. There's a night that there's there's a polarity about the one unity that i think is important. It's a dance <hes> a negative positive anna flow. There's always the the one which is that unity unity the two which is that plorarity and the three which is the flow of that and i think that's a really deep philosophical concept concept that i think is helpful in a number of different areas and i think if we think about that <hes> then and we can come back to probably one of the the keys to <hes> philosophy of life a worldview religion and that is the idea that there is an objective and a subjective aspect to our existence. There's the world out there of things but there's also the the the inside of us. There's the values the the beliefs <hes> the dispossessed dispositions the imagination the creativity thing the things of this nature that are inside us and these are important and these are the things that are neglected. I think in a lot of secular..

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"forrest" Discussed on Awakening with Jay Nelson Forrest

Awakening with Jay Nelson Forrest

05:31 min | 2 years ago

"forrest" Discussed on Awakening with Jay Nelson Forrest

"I'm jay forest the spiritual skeptic today. I wanna talk about taoism one on one so taoism of the three is probably the least understood in the west <hes> lease studied and probably the hardest to get any kind of <hes> courses on and so- taoism is <hes> from china yet originated about the time of confucianism and taoism. Is this now more of a religion than it is a philosophy so it's a helpful thing and many many scholars don't like it but i find it helpful to distinguish between philosophical taoism and religious taoism when i talk about philosophical taoism. I'm talking about <hes> classical taoism before the beginning of the second <hes> century a._d. When the celestial masters pretty much came into existence and organized taoism into a religion and during this process a lot of things changed and to me distinguishing between the two helps distinguish between the things that are important in classical physical taoism of things that are important in later taoism as well and that's the philosophical aspects of taoism so one of the earliest books is the dow dodging which was said to be written by lousa now. Lousa is the probably the oldest book that most people know of it's been translated they say <hes> and read more times than any other book except for the bible and the dow to jiang is a small all collection of cryptic signs for example in the first chapter of the dow to jing it says says the way that can be spoken is not the turn away literally in the chinese the dow that can be doubt is it's not the dow not eternal dow and so the whole idea of dow <hes> usually is translated way but i don't think that that catches the meaning of dow dow is much more of a multifaceted almost like a a fill in the blank ward that that carries different connotations dependent upon <hes> who's using it and the dow de ching you get a lot of the idea that the dow is the way of of nature the rhythm the flow of nature and later taoism you get more of this metaphysical principle this thing that existed before the beginning of the universe i there was the dow than there was the two then then there was the three and then there was the the multitude of things and that's kind of the idea that that you get <hes> more in in later taoism so you get kind of a simple idea and the dow degen and the doubted jing is is really <hes> more for the foundational text for taoism both philosophical and religious taoism the second probably closest to the dow to jiang his jaw kneza jones's both the name of the person and the the book gone <hes> joins us probably much less <hes> read or <hes> studied than the dow degen but it has very similar qualities more stories and allegories in images than the dow to jiang and there's a skeptical turn. That's that's quite prevalent in it. So starting with the dow ditching the dow the jing <hes> it said by that is written by lousa and lousa is the opinion translation now there's different ways to if you've seen some books that'll have dow with a t and some we'll have dow with a d. and that's because the older way of romanizing chinese <hes> used the t four dow and the modern one the one that's accepted now within scholarship and and <hes> china itself has i said this is the way that it should be <hes> romanized..

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"forrest" Discussed on Awakening with Jay Nelson Forrest

Awakening with Jay Nelson Forrest

04:51 min | 2 years ago

"forrest" Discussed on Awakening with Jay Nelson Forrest

"Will <hes> and he wanted to find the the answer to this discontent this dissatisfaction this suffering and so he didn't get it in from those two grew so he decided to try sediq ascetic practices extremists citizen <hes> to the point where the pali canon says that you could see the his ribcage. I mean every single bone in his body. He was eating like one. You know one drop of rice a day kind of thing and he was so weak. He almost drowned when he was in the in water and he finally realize moishe they get. What am i doing this is. This is not getting any any closer to what i'm looking for. It's not given me the awakening i want and so at that point he ate <hes> aw and he at that point discovered what he's what's called the middle way in other words. You don't overindulge you. Don't <hes> under you know nurse the body either just give it what it needs are not what it wants but what it needs so there's a balance so he found balances basically the point of the middleware and although there's a whole philosophy developed later on that idea about the middle way that was the point at this at this stage in his development and so then he's like okay i remember back when i was a kid i was sitting and i went into a a meditative state and i just relaxed extend observed and and there is a very tranquil feeling and and he said well what i'll do is i will meditate and i will sit down and meditate until i find release from suffering and that's what he did and the story goes that he went through a number of <hes> <music> <hes> difficulties in his meditation and in the <hes> middle of the night <hes> he woke up and was awakened and that awakening brought forth the basic foundations of buddhism now when i say buddhism you have to understand that that's really a misnomer you should say buddhism's <hes> because every time buddhism left india and went into another culture adapted the culture and changed so when buddhism went to china for an example that developed into chan buddhism john buddhism left china and went into japan and became zen buddhism <hes> john buddhism some went into korean became son buddhism so it's one of those things it it migrates and as it migrates it switches and absorbs the culture pitcher <hes> to such an astonishing degree and went to tabet for an example in tibet it absorbed the bond religion and became tibetan buddhism so really and it changes quite a bit actually if you if you study the the pali canon new study zan there's a lot of differences for an example <hes> but the there's the foundation and <hes> stephen bachelor. I like the way he called it. He called it. The alphabet or the syntax of the dharma and the syntax of the dharma has basically the four noble truths and the eightfold noble path <hes> and different aspects of that like dependent origination and things of this nature but i wanna just touch on those those four or or those four noble truths and the eightfold noble path today because that's gives you the background to <hes> buddhism so so buddhism basically has what's called the four noble truths <hes> stephen bachelor prefers calls at the four tasks <hes> but the pali canon actually has it as the four noble truths <hes> you could say it's the four wise insights into reality into the way it is is <hes> and those four are the suffering is part of life <hes> the awaken life that the cause of suffering is and i'm going to translate it literally thirst..

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"forrest" Discussed on Awakening with Jay Nelson Forrest

Awakening with Jay Nelson Forrest

14:57 min | 2 years ago

"forrest" Discussed on Awakening with Jay Nelson Forrest

"<music> welcome to my podcast. I'm Jay forest the spiritual skeptic today. I WanNa talk about skepticism. I think skepticism is very important. I think it's an important tool because let's face it. There's so many opinions opinions so many people believing different things I mean you could look at politics and religion to demonstrate the simple in fact. It seems like nobody can agree on anything and I think it's because we believe too quickly to readily. We don't think thinks things through and I think a lot of times. Our opinions are based upon bias and what we are raised with the culture of the family the environment the situation in which we are raised really it programs us and this becomes more evident as you begin to look more at it now for me. Uh I think the important thing about skepticism is skepticism is important because truth is important. Let me explain clean because Dick you be confusing. So skepticism basically says I'm not going to believe the first first thing I hear. Skepticism says that we're not really anywhere near certain our knowledge now we may think we're certain but the evidence behind it is not certain certain and certitude are not the same thing. We may feel like it's just a fact that God exists but that's just the feeling that's not based upon reality. That's not based upon an honest examination of the basis for your belief so when I think because I have to Kinda step back here and say truth is is the correspondence between thought and reality K. when what we think the claims that we make about reality match catch at least roughly the way reality actually is we have truth. The problem is concepts. Never perfectly Lee match reality concepts aren't reality so they're always less than reality as so concepts can only sort of correspond to reality they can represent it but never fully because only reality can fully represent reality so it's Kinda like a shorthand code for that reality. That's what makes it so difficult because everybody's experience gives them certain insights and certain blind doses to reality and that's why it's important to be open to different viewpoints in different people's opinions because they may be able to see things from a little different perspective than you and they just might be able to look at something that you're missing so one of the things skepticism tells you is. Don't be so Katcher mean you're. Assuredly your certitude. Your certainty is actually a blinder that you can't learn if you're certain if you already have the truth so you think you'll never discover the truth that in fact you don't and so this is why it's important that we understand understand and appreciate skepticism the ability to hold things in doubt to question things to really see what is this underlying what are the reasons for that particular belief and I think a common one is the belief in God so if you have a belief in God you have to ask the question what is that belief based on majority of cases is based upon the fact back. You were raised at least kind of God that you believe in that the person believes in is based upon you know what the family believed believed so the family believed in that say the Christian God and we'll just tick take a Catholic perspective you know there are raised in a Roman Catholic home in the said they believe in a Roman Catholic God and the Roman Catholic Church being the way to that Roman Catholic Catholic God and that's just seeped into everything they do. It was never questioned. They never brought any kind skepticism to it so they never thought to think okay. If I was raised in Afghanistan I would believe a Muslim kind of God not a Christian. God Not a trinity and I would believe Muhammed is the last prophet not Jesus Jesus in Catholocism is actually God manifested in the flesh they believe in the trinity the the Father The son and the Holy Spirit are three persons but there is one god Muslims believe. There's just one god Jesus was as a Minor Prophet Yeah but Muhammad was the main one and the Koran is the inspired word of God not the Bible and so that whole belief system is based upon what well you're a Muslim believe in a Muslim God todd because your raise the Muslim culture. You're a Catholic raised in a Catholic culture and I therefore you believe in a Catholic God. Now it shouldn't the truth shouldn't depend upon what culture you're raised on and if that's the basis of your belief which if people are honest that's the majority of the time then you really don't have good reasons to believe in the God that you profess purpose so skipped us as it comes in and says you know you need to doubt especially especially the culture cultural beliefs you are raised in because although the hardest to look at it objectively if everyone believes it is really hard for you to question it and it's really hard hard for you to come up with an honest assessment of the evidence. What is the evidence for this see. This is the this is the reason skepticism. This is a missile important. If you really care about the truth the truth can only be approximated. By looking at the reasons for your belief and I say approximated because the skeptics are right nobody he knows for certain there may or may not be God. We don't know we'll never know what we do. have is we have beliefs that are based upon traditions that are based upon culture and that's not sufficient reason to believe him we have to look at the evidence evidence and we have to look at the evidence that is objective and verifiable. If it's not objective and verifiable it's it's not evidence and then as we honestly look at the evidence both for and against then we can reach Ch- a reasoned decision the problem is people aren't honest when they do this the Christian apologist really don't try to look at at Christianity from the skeptics viewpoint or from the atheist viewpoint or agnostic viewpoint. They don't really they're just trying to quiet him up and get everybody to convert to their belief and likewise. There's some atheist to let's face it. They haven't really honestly looked looked at belief in God from a Christian point of view see I have the advantage of being on both sides of the fence offense. I've been <hes> aboard against spirit filled Christian minister and I have been an atheist. Although I prefer for the term skeptic I don't believe in a God because I looked at the reasons and the reasons are not sufficient and the evidence if I take the the basic structure of Christianity in the basic claims of Christianity don't hold water a God who has all loving Wien all-powerful everywhere present all good and with the existence of evil in the world and such that it is makes me come to the conclusion that's such a God doesn't exist. I don't know if some other God exists some kind of a force or you know a D._s.. Qatar I don't I don't know because there's no evidence of that. I just stick with the evidence I know that the natural world from the evidence appears to be all there is and so I live of within the realm of the known and I worry about the unknown only when there's evidence to to examine in concern myself with another thing I should say about skepticism especially. If you study the historical record of skepticism you'll find find that people mistake skepticism as a tool and skepticism as a position now there are people in the ancient Greek world who took absolute skepticism as the conclusion. We don't know anything. Knowledge is impossible of course they could never live such a life they can't live as if knowledge is impossible they have to live as if some things are true even if they can't prove it so they're both right and wrong. Yes you'll never be certain and if knowledge requires certainty than there is no knowledge there is no truth if it requires certainty but as I define truth is a correspondence between thought reality thought and acclaim or <hes> reality and Acclaim Correspondents Not exactitude okay. It's not exact equivalence. It's a rough Since then that's possible and if knowledge is not certain but probable as based upon on probability reliable justified reliable belief then knowledge as possible and that's the important part is if you go to skepticism as a conclusion as a worldview itself self destructive because you saying you know for certain that you don't know anything for certain well there is actually some things as I do know for certain. I know that I exist descartes made that clear I think therefore I am although there's some major problems with that whole process us but thinking takes place and therefore thinking there must be thinking if doubting there must be thinking so I know that there is a thinker a thinking and therefore that's one thing I'm certain of because even doubting it I affirm it but beyond that making the next step descartes made some jumps that quite honestly don't hold but what he did say that there was at least one thing certain that even doubting thinking and thinker and doubter there there is something doing that so distinguishing between skepticism as a tool as skipped his AH worldview is a big difference. I am not a skeptic in worldview. I'm a skeptic in tool okay. It's a tool to get at the truth as much of the truth as we can with the understanding that certainty is never possible in things of the outside world. We'll never know anything in the external world for certain. There's always the possibility I could be in the Matrix of brain the vet there's many thought experiments that show that in fact absolute certainty is impossible concerning the objective world the world out there and so that being the case. I am a skeptic as a tool when it comes is to especially things of questionable <hes> well things that are important but of questionable evidence such jazz. God the supernatural in an afterlife. I don't see any evidence for those things and therefore. I don't believe them now. The next question is your spiritual skeptic. What do you mean by spiritual that will wait until next time. Thank you so much much for joining me for the podcast you can visit me at J.. Force Dot Org and there is a contact page. You can contact me <hes> if you're watching. This are listening to this on <hes> any of the different platforms. Please make sure you subscribe. Give me a thumbs up up or alike and if you get a chance you have some time. I'd appreciate a review so thank you so much. I appreciate you torment tune-in Newnan listening to me and until next time may wisdom gadget steps on the path of awakening..

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"forrest" Discussed on Awakening with Jay Nelson Forrest

Awakening with Jay Nelson Forrest

15:36 min | 2 years ago

"forrest" Discussed on Awakening with Jay Nelson Forrest

"And it's like well. No mindfulness is merely self management. That's exactly what mindfulness is. Anything else is religion. It's more than a tool. If you use mindfulness to address social justice okay you first have to define justice justice is defined within a context of a worldview not a tool if mindfulness is a tool tool which it is okay purpose is self management which it is which is in the head of the individual which it is okay anything else requires -quires a worldview and if you're gonNA teach your religion. It's not going to be at a medical center okay. There's a thing in the United States called the separation of church and state religion is not it allowed K. tool that has no religious connotations in and of itself is allowed mindfulness. Is that tool now again. That doesn't mean that AH mindfulness is enough. It's not enough we need the religion <hes> Buddhism Taoism stoicism or in my case Bodey Taoism. We need the `Isms to give us a full featured. Featured <hes> ethic even Christianity is a full featured ethic okay. It's one of the strong points of Christianity so he says the liberating power of mindfulness is being gene stuffed out experts like John Combat Zinn impose scientific methods and that's the whole point is you're trying to show that it's actually helping people that's why they employ scientific methods acids. It's it's one of those things it's just ridiculous and then he says turning critique back outwards removes the intellectual cover that the mindfulness movement offers capitalism see. There's his Marxist comment in Marxism. The enemy is capitalism so he's quite clear at at one point that he's pro Marxist but here he's just anti-capitalist <hes> which if you I I mean I understand the problems with capitalism and and and difficulties with it but it is the one that has brought the most wealth to and brought more people out of poverty than any other system so it may not be the best system but it's the only one that's worked so far so and I'm more than willing to try something different but I'm not going to go back to two failed doc communism or anything like that and then he says truly revolutionary mindfulness is liberating social and civic no again mindfulness Felicia's just a tool once it's liberating in the social and civic realm. It's a religion and then he the see this is the slander stuff he does mindful our modern mindfulness elites like Quebec Zinn really think he's an elite no he's not that's that's not even fair but he's not trying to be fair. <hes> he does meet the criteria Kyrie of being a crank but not for being a scholar or fair now. Here's another one of those comments not only has suffering been privatized internalized and has been amplified and marginalized the result is a level of suffering that cannot be treated at the individual level level all all suffering if you're Buddhist at all all suffering can only be addressed at the individual level okay only way it can be. You're not going to change the world by changing the world you're going to be changed the world by changing people and that's what the Buddha and it appears to me that that's what John's looking for and then he says this unbelievable comment okay and this is on page two fifty-five nowadays I order pain is no longer private. It is entangled with social economic political and environmental suffering nowadays hasn't it always been entitled with Social Economic Political Environmental Issues. When did it start when capitalism started? That's the Marxist interpretation right. I mean that's the only answer possible it's not the Buddhist interpretation so I guess I if you go by Marxist ideas but Marxists had the place for mindfulness and mindfulness and meditation and all that stuff didn't fit in yet. This author claims to be Buddhist so I'm I'm confused nowadays. No I paid I first order pain is always been private but it has always had its instigation. It's obstacles in social economic. Political environmental suffering didn't Buddhist Day did in the Dark Ages. It's always been that way so I don't know but then he says also mindfulness has helped in this process reinforcing the myth of private suffering. Yes again read the Dhammapada suffering is in the mind. A source of suffering is the mind there is no other sources suffering. That's where the suffering happens then. This is the other thing if the suffering does not happen in the mind and happens to society and the only way you can eliminate suffering which is nirvana is to eliminate it in society. Nobody has reached Nirvana nor can eh because no society has been pure. There's always been obstacles to <hes> flourishing in the world so if you place it in society if you place peace of mind and you depend peace of mind upon society you've eliminated from individual choice. You can never be happy you can never flourish. It's either in the mind it's under your control and this goes back to stoic idea of the dichotomy of control. It's either under your control and therefore you can be happy or it's not under your control and you might as well kiss the idea of peace of mind goodbye and then he says mindfulness is ineffective at treating this suffering and less it raises collective awareness of the forces that obscure power relations class interests social inequality equalities and political oppression no well the first problem is mindfulness ineffective at treating evil. Okay suffering is in the mind evil is in society. Let's let's get that straight OK and there is evil in society and that needs to be addressed by religion worldviews. Okay humanism addresses that for an example which is a worldview bodey Taoism awesome addresses that which is a religion so you're asking a tool to address what a religion a worldview must address again very confused few teachers teachers of mindfulness and this is what he goes on to say few teachers of mindfulness do this at present since they themselves are part of the problem really mindfulness teachers are part of the power relations class interest social inequalities and political oppression again unfair at best. This is the this is the this is why have a problem with this. It's like programs modeled on he goes onto say M B S are offer first order therapies of self manage their simply not designed for social transformation and collective healing. Correct that's why it's called mindfulness based stress reduction. That's what it's doing reducing stress and then he goes on to say to become revolutionary teachers of mindfulness need new practices capable of tackling entangled suffering. No such thing is entangled. Suffering suffering is in the mind evil is in society. You need virtues. That's the thing you need. You'RE GONNA attack issues like <hes> selfishness and greed and these things you need virtues. You need character you ethics that comes from religion not a tool that this is the thing that mindfulness is a psycho technology. Okay the psycho technology is a tool. That's all it is it is not a religion and here in page. Two five seven is is his pro comment on Marxism psychoanalyst was similarly neutered by being Americanized. Many Europeans like Atlanta's were Marxist and socialist these Neil for organs viewed neurosis as a social disease saying personal troubles could not be divorced from historical and social context so and then he talks about total liberation requires a new practice. We'll total liberation as domain of religion not a mindfulness or for that matter therapy and here's what I was talking about earlier. When I started he says the therapeutic function for the therapeutic functions of mindfulness based interventions are clearly of value then? Why would you want to not allow them if they're clearly of value it's like wh- what and he says they're not a that we shouldn't allow them on page twenty one and then on page two fifty eight he says thereof clearly value well then what and he says we don't need to stop using them but we need to do much more while you go do much more create a better product it will go then? He says when we recognized that this affection anxiety and stress are not part are not just our own fault but our connected connected to structural causes this becomes fuel for igniting resistance see that's Marxism. No if you want to understand this correctly disaffection anxiety and stress are in the mind their psychological issues not sociological. There's sociological evils yes political evils. Yes but you're confusing. The two is just this fricken amazing and then he talks about social mindfulness. Here's no such thing as social mindfulness people are mindful. Society can't be mindful not collectively mindfulness fullness is a tool that an individual uses and like I said it just goes on and on and on mindfulness isn't a religion. It's a tool don't expect mindfulness to do what not only a religion can do unfortunately Ronald purser jumps from mindfulness as a tool to mindfulness as a religion with the socialism agenda. He is never clear on his own political political position I would label him Neil Liberal or Neo Marxist and that's I'm. I think I'm leaning towards more than the NEO Marxist because it's not even good Marxism. I mean he's not not even following marks correctly. If that makes any sense to you <hes> if you know marks you'll understand what I mean so it's a new twist. Mindfulness was never in Mark's view so it has to be neo <hes> so again chapter. One of the Dhammapada says the cause of suffering is in the mind not in society. The Buddha privatized suffering not John you bet Zim. John is teaching perfect Buddhism secularize yes but he's following the Buddha. If peace of mind requires a society free of social economic political and environmental problems than peace of mind is impossible all in this life but stoicism Buddhism Taoism all teach otherwise all suffering is in the mind therefore peace of mind is a realistic possibility and available to all and again what this is is a neo Marxist criticism of the Mindfulness Movement in general and John Quebec Zinn in particular and you know I could go on and on about the the difficulties I have with this book femme again. I I understand that there's problems in the mindfulness movement <hes> but I don't expect it to do what a religion does and so. I'm not anywhere near as critical or as cranky as Ronald Our purser is so I do not recommend MC mindfulness. It's a waste of time and a waste of reading <hes> unfortunately because you have to read hundreds of pages of character assassination <hes> to get a couple of nuggets of truth which I gave you right at the beginning the problems with mindfulness so you already have all that you need to know <hes> <hes> as a general overview of what is wrong with <hes> mindfulness and you don't have.

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"forrest" Discussed on Awakening with Jay Nelson Forrest

Awakening with Jay Nelson Forrest

15:32 min | 2 years ago

"forrest" Discussed on Awakening with Jay Nelson Forrest

"Outlook and attitude set of values beliefs practices things listening. It's the whole package and that's why it's so so hard to define because it's all those things but none of those things in particular and that's why defining religion you know that's why people can't do it is because it's a whole package for our whole person and that's probably the best definition that I can give and so when I began to to do this. I didn't realize the amount of knowledge that I needed. You know you don't know what you don't know until you don't know it and it does seem like the more that I study the more that I know of the more that I realized wow there's a lot more to know and so I understand perfectly quickly my own ignorance in creating religion because of the with the actual scope that you have to know to create a religion that deals with the whole of life just realize realized stop and think about what you're doing. You know I mean to actually do it right to do. An evidence based religion one that actually is best based upon the best evidence that we have you have to know the evidence and and so that means I have to study anthropology sociology <hes> Politics Psychology <hes> <hes> neuroscience <hes> cognitive <hes> science <hes> I have to know the philosophy religion <hes> philosophy of mind <hes> a psycho technologies all these things I mean I could go on world. worldviews <hes> understanding worldviews understanding systematisation understanding logic <hes> the different branches of philosophy <hes> understanding <hes> psychopathology understanding <hes> you know how do you go through. How do you change personally you know? How do you go through transformation? What is awakening what is spiritual awakening you know and and going through all these different things and actually get into any depth in any of them is a lifetime work and here I am trying to do all of them so it's rather right quite ridiculous in in that sense and so I I can't not feel like it's arrogant and ignorant <hes> to do bodey Taoism but also I just my own frustration that I can't not do it either? If that makes any sense you know body Taoism and this is probably the thing that bothers some people. I'm creating voted album for me. It's not necessarily going to be for you and that might bother you but I can't create ah religion for you because I'm not you all I can do is create a religion for me and try to make it universalized or <hes> can be applied to you know more than just me but I have after created for me because I have to live it. This is my life. This is what I want to do. This is what I've been looking for for my entire life in Christianity and in Buddhism and in humanism and in spiritual naturalism I've I've been looking for the good life the the life of flourishing <hes> in I'm not finding the full package. I'm finding bits and pieces here and there and quite honestly I mean I realize my own ignorance but I also realize I haven't met anybody who has studied the the with and scope of things that I've studied personally. I mean there. I'm sure there are there. There are people out there but I have I have not personally run into anybody who is trying to build a personal religion based on scientific naturalism and if I found that such a person that would be different <hes> not generally would that person be trying to create a personal religion based on scientific naturalism but he we'd be well versed in science psychology philosophy <hes> religion religion <hes> sociology anthropology those those kind of things <hes> and have some kind of a spiritual practice as well and be completely committed to a naturalistic worldview and so finding in that kind of person with that kind of knowledge. I haven't found <hes> not in person or online. I've never seen anybody actually tried to do that. <hes> I see people doing parts of it. <hes> people trying to figure out how to solve the meaning crisis <hes> but they they're not looking to create a personal religion. They're not trying to create a philosophy of life. They're trying to integrate <hes> psychological knowledge for example or try to come up with an answer in scientific place where you know that's only part of the picture a full package for the full person person what I'm going for and I don't see that. I don't see that in anywhere so that's the frustration is I don't see that so I have no choice but to do that. It's it's my necessity and Elf also feel like people don't take Frederick Nici seriously enough. God is dead. I'm sorry but God is dead and that is not a good thing that's not. I'm not happy about that but the simple fact is belief in God is past being believable we have to move on and the only way to move on is to come up with some kind of Meta narrative that we all can share if we want a better society we have better start creating better people and the only way to create better people is to have a system to do so and a system. That's believable. That's the issue it has to be believable has to be based on the best evidence that we have and one person doing it. You know that's all I have right. Now is just me it's just me right now working on Bodey Taoism but that's all I've got right now and like you said is I'm created for me. If I wasn't creating it for me. I would never have required vegetarianism. Let's be honest. There's a lot of you who will not be a body Taoist for one reason vegetarianism. Deteriorate awesome even though I am absolutely correct on that and right both morally and healthwise. I am correct on that. I'm a Vegan so I'm actually even more more strict. <hes> <hes> I don't not only do I not <hes> eat fisher a meat or chicken or Turkey or any of that but I don't eat eggs or or or <hes> <hes> cheese these are drink darier drink milk or anything with milk or dairy or cheese in it so I mean that's just a step healthier but it also is because some in most host factory farms the amount of abuse that animals go through. I don't want to be participating so that's why Vegan I'm not saying that you can't be vegetarian and you know have a you know a local farmer who has eggs for example and they take care of their chickens and they're well taken care of and you know you get eggs once in a while from them or you know your neighbor has a cow and you milk the cow dietrich you see veganism requires as you not to do that so that's why I don't require it because you can get milk and and dairy and eggs humanely <hes> and I encourage everybody everybody Dallas to do so but I don't require veganism because you can be vegetarian and be ethical and so that's why but it goes back to the whole thing is if I was creating Lina religion for everybody else. The problem is it would end up being so watered down it would mean nothing to me. And why would I pursue. Something doesn't mean anything to me. I have to do what's right for not only for me but for the animals for the environment for humanity as a whole and for the planet and the only one the only way to do that is we need to become vegetarian and eventually will be forced to do it but by that time I don't know if it'll be too late or at least the majority of people be forced to do it and only the rich will get the the meat kind of like it was back in the days of kings and rulers but that's why you know I think about creating the religion and I kind of was startled by just the arrogance the and the ignorance of it and then I got to thinking about that they absolutely necessary necessity. I have no choice I have to. I mean I have to live life and I have to live. It is flourishing as possible and the other part. The last part is that's actually inevitable. Everybody creates their own religion. They just don't realize it. I mean think of it name to Christians that agree on everything so the fact that they disagree means they've created needed their own version of of Christianity or their own version of Buddhism. I mean in in all honesty we all create our own philosophy of life our own religion whether it's humanists or atheist easiest or Christians or Buddhists we all do we all tailor it to our own needs. I'm just freer in my tailoring. That's all so it really isn't isn't arrogant ignorant. If you look at it that way it's actually inevitable. Everyone creates our religion it. Just some people do a good job. Some people want to follow the evidence and find the thing that's closest to the truth and others just want to be comfortable to make sure they have you know nice afterlife but they still customize their religion to their own suit until their own likings. I mean I mean this is inevitable so creating your religion isn't actually a choice we all do although we might not call it religion obviously the secular humanist would never call secular humanism religion even even though the beginners of of the of humanism did they called it a re religious humanism and actually said one of the books from <hes> Chris Potter was <hes> humanism as religion religion that was actually their original point. We're going to create a new religion in there in college humanism to replace old religion which I think they're still that still was the right choice. I think that that's actually the way they should've went rather than trying to secularize it and make it a secular philosophy that <hes> you know they could then incorporate into the schools. I think was the the. The idea is they didn't want it to be bound by the rules of a religion the separation of church and state they would be under the church category and they didn't want that they didn't want the separation they wanted the access. They didn't want Christians to have which is understandable but not necessarily plane fare because humanism is a religion always has been always will be in the sense that it is a full package for the full person although in all honesty it's some of the packages are damaged in that sense there. They really kind of neglect spirituality but there are you know religious humanists that do fill in that that neglected part so in spiritual humanist to fill in that neglected part and I would say that spiritual <hes> naturalist tend to be pretty much in line with humanistic principles so it's it's not that different is just emphasis upon nature rather than upon person. Humanism is person centered naturalism is nature centered and to me. That's an improvement <hes> we need to be more nature centered especially with the <hes> the environmental crisis upon us and so that's why I say people aren't interested you know boathouse on this just too much. I can't buy into everything or I don't want to be vegetarian fine. You know I'd I created for me. He had increased it for you. If it doesn't work for you great <hes> my suggestion then is if some of what I'm saying resonates with you you take a step back and you go to something like you know <hes> <hes> spiritual naturalism or if he happened to be really into <hes> like <hes> Meditation and Buddhism and stuff you can do some kind of a <hes> zen humanism or Zen naturalism or if you're more into stoicism neo stoicism is is <hes> pretty good too. I mean you've got scientific Pantheon Awesome. If you really into the the the the Pantheon stick part I mean there's other options since <hes> Bodey dowsman for those that are interested in <hes> really incorporating the best of the wisdom traditions. I am trying to follow the best evidence to the best solution and more more than welcome to a more than <hes> welcome to answer your questions on the the vegetarianism. I have numerous books that I've read <hes> that if you're interested I can direct. Do you know quite honestly all you really need if you want evidence is <hes> Dr Michael Gregor's how not to die. I mean there's thousands of hundreds uh of references to literature to show that in fact you know it's the healthiest way to to live <hes>..

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"forrest" Discussed on Awakening with Jay Nelson Forrest

Awakening with Jay Nelson Forrest

13:41 min | 2 years ago

"forrest" Discussed on Awakening with Jay Nelson Forrest

"Hello and welcome to A. Wiki. I'm Jay Nilsson forest today. I'm going to be talking about creating a religion so as any listener of the podcast knows I'm creating a personal religion based on scientific naturalism that personal religion is a body Taoism by personal. I mean it's there's no church or temple or holy book or anything like that. It's for your own personal awakening transformation and flourishing <hes> the only structure is the structure shirow a teacher student kind of relationship similar to what stoicism did and the alternate of a personal religion of course is a commune no religion one it does have churches and clergy and all that other stuff but that's not what I'm creating creating personal religion so I thought I'd have some reflection about that just my own on thoughts as I consider it 'cause. I actually tried to look at it from somebody looking outside in the first thing I thought of coup what arrogance yes I mean. You're creating a religion. Who Do you think you are and this kind of struck me as if I mean if someone came up to me and they told me hey I'm so and so and <hes> I've created religion? I'd be like Oh Kay the <hes> <hes> Kook factor alarm would go off kind of thing and so I I look at it and I'm going yep it does if if I was not in the midst of it would look kind of funny I mean who do I think I am too to start a religion. I mean think of it starting a religion. I'm not sure that I looked at it that way. Basically just a little back story for for me. It was one of those things that okay I came from a nineteen. I became a born again Christian. I became a Christian <hes> got into <hes> PENTECOSTAL ISM and Evangelical Pentecostal ISM so you know very orthodox Protestant minus the the speaking in tongues and stuff that that doesn't necessarily follow from that. It's just one of the aspects of the whole Chris Traumatic pentecostal thing what was interesting is that I began to of course you first of all I was. I was a you know fanatical believer. I mean I just dived into the Bible cover cover. I read it lived it to the best of my ability and what happened. Is I began to study more books that dealt with though Bible I began to deal with textual criticism. I began to deal with <hes> more and more about science in Bobble College. I remember studying unapologetic. I think I was taking out the time <hes> of course unapologetic and then it was after that that I did introduction to philosophy and when I did introduction to Philosophi- read will durant's the history of philosophy in that or the story of philosophy and that really got me interested he in philosophy and proving the existence of God so I actually set out I had a quite honestly I mean by my sophomore year. I had a library equivalent to most of the professors <hes> college. That's how much I just dived into it and in the process of diving into it to that extent and that deeply there was cracks appearing there was problems disappearing and I remember struggling with <hes> the problem of evil and <hes> I remember reading some of the arguments from David Hume about the problem of evil and miracles and stuff like that and I remember saying that I wanted to know the truth no matter what the cost and so here I am now <hes> many years later still in the process of pursuing suing that after the truth no matter what the cost but so after that I was kind of going okay so this whole Protestant they have some problems <hes> one was. Is the interpretation because everyone had their interpretation. The Baptist had one pentecostals assembly of God had one even within the chromatic pentecostal they couldn't decide whether or not speaking in tongues was the evidence of the Holy Spirit and the baptism the spirit or wasn't. Did you have to have it if you didn't have it. Could you have the Holy Spirit it goes on and on and on and on and on and on and that's just one area you've got baptism is by immersion by sprinkling or some other kind of way <hes> you have you know. Are you saved by works. You saved by grace or is it. You know a a works that saves you and or a grace that saves you and then works follow. You know aw communion <hes> the Eucharist is that you know transept Standardization Constanze station just assemble just the ceremony what was that and I mean I could literally go. Oh through every single doctrine of Christianity and the Christian Church doesn't agree and yet they're supposed to have the guidance of the Holy Spirit so I struggled for for many years I went from <hes> the assemblies of God I went. I was actually a Baptist assistant pastor for a while and from there <hes> I actually decided that you know we need some kind kind of a a guidance and apostolic tradition seemed like a good choice so I went to the old Catholics I could never by the the <hes> Roman Catholicism aspect of it but I went into the old Catholic <hes> <hes> religion which is follows the the tradition but doesn't believe the pope is the the head of the church Kinda thing infallible or anything like that and then I got an eastern Orthodox and his it gives them and doubt whole <hes> took catechism classes with them and I saw struggled for for you know at least two decades with Christianity trying to get a Christianity N._A._T._O.. That matched reality and I never could do it so then I decided to read Nagaa Hamadi Library which was what it called then now. There's a transition called the dog commodity scriptures and I began to realize well. There's actually another branch of Christianity that existed from the very beginning of that was NAS to Christianity and so I actually embraced that <hes> because the weather the word the Bible was inspired or not didn't matter as much because in Nostra schism the the center is the experience of God not some book the book is to get you to the experience. It's it's helpful or infallible or reliable to get you to the experience but it's not a substitute for an experience with God and so it was more a mystical are kind of experience and then I kept running into parallels between Nas to schism and Buddhism and so I got deeply involved in Buddhism founded Buddhism actually had some really helpful teachings and I came to the point where I realized you know. Jesus was just a teacher. The Buddha was just the teacher who was the better better teacher and hands down. I mean the Buddha was there was there wasn't a question he actually helped you deal with suffering in the real world and so I became a Buddhist well the problem is then Buddhism. <hes> you know on the surface the Buddhism that's actually sold to the West is a polished up <hes> scientifically framed Buddhism but when you go back to the Pali Canon there's a lot of supernatural aspects and miracles and stuff deflate this and divas and gods and all this other stuff heavens and hells and a lot of this which is not usually taught and in most <hes> Buddhist places <hes> unless you're actually get into it and and I'm like no I I I just left Christianity with all this kind of mumble jumble stuff and that's what I found Stephen Bachelor and secular Buddhism and yeah you know that's because Buddhism has so much to offer really does and and so <hes> secular Buddhism was it for awhile and then I was like well secular Buddhism limits me to Buddhism and at the time I was realizing you know there's other philosophies and and and and <hes> things like this to study inside began to <hes> search out <hes> spiritual naturalism and spiritual naturalism <hes> is great in the fact that gives you that brought unbrella to explore the different traditions traditions and a naturalized version of each but in doesn't give you a system it just gives you a big umbrella and I wanted a system and so that's why I came up with Bodey Taoism and I'm like you know. I need to to take the secular aspects of all these religions. Bring it together into a system that actually you can live rather than kind of an ECLECTIC <hes> supermarket where you pick and choose whatever feels good for that day for me. I needed something more systematic more logical more rational more evidence based <hes> something that wasn't just a he based on my whims likes and dislikes and so that's why created Bodey Taoism but when I tried tried to come up with what is brody Taoism I struggled. I struggled so much on whether it was a religion or philosophy of life or worldview I went with worldview just because it was ambiguous enough to to cover anything with her as a philosophy of life or religion and it was after really struggling with the fact that there is no good word for <hes> what Buddhism and body Taoism mm-hmm is and philosophical Taoism <hes> and and stoicism in these things. There's no good word for it and so they're naturalistic. Religions is what they are <hes>. There's some more than more naturalistic than others boaty. Taoism is completely based upon scientific naturalism Buddhism tends to be more naturalistic less God centered there's Gods and heavens and hells but the center is based upon and <hes> more psychology than it is metaphysics <hes> and so it was one of those things that I just woke up one day and realized a guess what I created religion and so the arrogance of it is I didn't do it on purpose. It wasn't like woke up one day and said Hey. I want to start a religion. I would probably have <hes> said okay. I need to sleep some more. <hes> you know need to take a vacation because stress get into mere something but I actually woke up and realized you know one day that Oh yeah I created a religion and then I realized how weird that actually sounds <hes> and then I'm like well. You know not only does it sound arrogant. It also sounds ignorant honestly and this is this is the thing that I freely confess. I wish someone else had had already done this. The someone else had already gone through and systematically <hes> took the best of the wisdom traditions and matched it to the best knowledge that we have from science psychology philosophy and personal experience practice spirits <hes> phenomenology <hes> might be a better word and so that's the thing is is nobody's done that and the problem that I have of is that I understand the amount of knowledge you need to know to create a religion because a religion. I thought of this just recently a religion is a full package for full person. It's everything everything it's the whole ball of wax. It's the philosophy it's the ritual it's the way of life it's an.

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"forrest" Discussed on Awakening with Jay Nelson Forrest

Awakening with Jay Nelson Forrest

12:48 min | 2 years ago

"forrest" Discussed on Awakening with Jay Nelson Forrest

"Welcome to awakening i'm jim nelson for us today i wanna talk about what is knowledge so there's a branch of philosophy known as a pistol allergy pissed analogy is usually if you look it up is the fury of dowager the study knowledge and if you studied a pistol allergy at all you'll understand that 'em is they long contested issue of what is knowledge of what counts for knowledge 'em these standard definition of knowledge now this is justified tripoli's 'em and that's been kind of they standard definition of knowledge for many centuries dating back all the way till they classic philosophers and greek and rome justified true belief so the difficulty comes when a guy named getty or came up with several issues called the getty you're problems andy's problems indicate that in fact justified true belief may not be knowledge foreign example see in the this there's obviously multiple layers to the difficulty so if it is if i have a watch end hey wall clock and they both stop keeping time at eight o'clock and i look at them both at eight o'clock and i assume that it's eight o'clock do i have a justified drew believe dr damage so this isn't necessarily example the a was given but it does bring up the difficulty okay if i just happened to be justified i think i'm justified because i'm looking at my no risk watch in the wall clock and they both happened just say the correct time time it just happens to be eight o'clock the justification there seems it's justified to me but it isn't justified because those are accurate timepieces it just the happenstance that had happened to fall at eight o'clock then i looked at it if it was eight oh five and i looked at it and looked and saw it with eight o'clock and thought it was eight o'clock is the eight fired it would be not eight justified true believe it will be a false belief and so the accident of being eight o'clock when i look at the time pieces doesn't change the fact that if not an accurate measure of time so justified drubel if so that's one of the issues with that these other is the idea of true belief okay here they pretty much say that justified means that you have good reasons for believing it true means that the belief he is in fact correct it's the way it is so in that definition of true there are saying that it is the way it is and this is where my skepticism comes then my skepticism says the in this sense nothing is known with absolute certainty more very little very very very little i think therefore i some kind of situation might cause to doubt it means you're still thinking but beyond that nothing objector world is absolutely certain you could be a brain of at t is a common philosophical example or you could use they matrix 'em he could be like neo in the matrix you know how would you know if you're in a computer simulation sure that if it's the simulation is done correctly you wouldn't know which means than that everything that you believe would be falls everything so true to to to know something is certainly true is really not possible we can only know was a high degree of probability something is true so the say justified true believe it something becomes untenable unworkable unusable 'cause there's no way will ever know whether it's true for certain so justified truly fails on they getty you're accounts and it fails they definition definition the truth accounts so what do we used instead how do we define knowledge if you're going to define knowledge if you're going to deal with knowledge what do you call it if you eliminate that justified true belief what is the alternative and this is the one i i've struggled with this before i for a while i held to a justified highly probable belief or something some kind of an arrangement similar to that just because it matches more of the reality though we lou living but after much thought i i really come to the conclusion the best definition knowledge is justified reliable belief justified knowledge is justifiable reliable belief justified reliable belief and that just simply means that it's reliable means that it holds it doesn't mean it will hold in the future in there once it stops being reliable it stops being knowledge for example there was a time where we had really good reasons for believing that the world was stationary and the center of the universe we had really good reasons good observation or justified a that was a justified reliable believe because we had de visual evidence the sun rose in the east sat in the west the moon the stars all of that did the same so there's good reasons for believing that we didn't feel any movement i mean it back in the day if you got on a horse you'd feel the movement of the horse or if you walk you'd feel the movement of the walk or a few job do you feel the the motion of the jump so there is no reason to suspect that we're actually in motion we feel like we're in motion everything that we do we taurel we feel the motion motion why would that not why would we feel motion it was common sense obviously were the subtlety earth and it's the sun and the moon and the stars that a rise in setting so we had good is justified were justified and believe in it was reliable son kept coming up so it was knowledge people would say on that day i know the earth is the center of the universe so knowledge is how we used the term and if we're going to use terms today wouldn't make sense that have the match the way that we actually use them i mean we have things we have called knowledge that now are no longer knowledge newtonian physics one example was considered pretty solid now edge and then einstein came along and showed that in fact it was not knowledge so if it wasn't knowledge before was it knowledge i mean it's not knowledge now but we would consider knowledge before but when they were wrong so then there would be wrong knowledge which doesn't make any sense because how could you have wrong justified drew belief you can't because it would have to be a true believer therefore you just mislabeled acknowledge but it was never really knowledge so how do you know if you ever have knowledge if that's the case einstein physics might actually someday ceased to be quote unquote knowledge so say how on tenable it is how unworkable that definition of knowledge is so when you define knowledge as justified reliable belief than the reliability ceases the knowledge ceases you see it's built in that little wiggle room is built into the the definition of knowledge reliable ceased to be reliable now we know that's not knowledge to me it was of all the the de terms and definitions and struggles that i've seen with the term knowledge this is in fact v best definition that i've come up with and that i've seen is justified reliable believe so this is important enough pissed analogy for a number of reasons one of which could be helpful if you're gonna talk about something they have a good working definition the second is that definition has be apply in different situations so back in the day when we believe the earth was the center of the universe in observation matched it are own commonsense match did and there is no evidence to the contrary therefore justified reliable knowledge it was knowledge it was genuine knowledge it was reliable and then when a galileo leo and others a showed in fact that the earth is not the center of the universe but they were rotated around the sun it ceased to be dealt which it stopped being reliable evidence showed it unreliable and therefore it ceased to be knowledge before that it was knowledge after new evidence came in showed that it wasn't knowledge that follows the reliability factor and not true or not true true which is unverifiable in in the real world so reliable and not reliable actually happens certain truth never happens will never know the truth street through certain in this life of their objective world anyway will never know absolutely certain what is there isn't any objective world but we know it's reliable what actually holds true one holds true to the evidence and so justified reliable belief is knowledge i.

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"forrest" Discussed on Awakening with Jay Nelson Forrest

Awakening with Jay Nelson Forrest

09:24 min | 2 years ago

"forrest" Discussed on Awakening with Jay Nelson Forrest

"Hello, and welcome again to awakening. I'm Jane Olson forest today. I wanna talk about the meaning crisis. So in today's society, we have so many different possibilities for interpreting reality. Many of the religions have made it t- nited states in the western world. Yep. Buddhism, Hinduism Taoism, you have Christianity with its many different branches. Catholocism even. Jellicoe. Fundamentalist. And you have all kinds of cults and, and splinter groups, Joe witnesses Mormons latter-day saints things of this nature. So there's so many different possibilities for interpreting reality. And none of them seem to be to stand out as true mean they'll pretty much seemed to be more personal preference than evidence and. Based on reality. So how's the person's supposed to decide? A culture. That's pretty much lost any faith in religions in gods and deities saviors and gurus mean. Yeah, there's still people who follow those separate things. But they pretty much seemed like a mess. No view stands out is over and above any other, they all seem to be pretty much equally leading nowhere. Saudi the side. That's the problem we live in, in a society. That's pretty much lost faith in religions. Pretty much have to just randomly pick is pretty much the the standard. One view is good. As the other kind of idea. Pretty much one view is as good as the other. So we have to start with in order to come out of this meaning crisis. First of all decide how we're gonna know what is true. And how are you going to decide, you know, right now it's pretty much based upon confirmation bias. I mean you have a particular viewpoint. And you look at the world and you interpret it involved in involving near particular viewpoint and doesn't matter what it is. If you are raised a Christian you interpreted as Christian few were raised Hindu. It's Hindu interpretation. But that's not pretty doesn't very reliable just because you're born that way this before because you're born into the Catholic religion doesn't mean that the Catholic interpretation is the correct one. I think most people have come to the termination that they've kind of lost faith in religions. And so where do you turn? I mean, no religion seems to leave in a vacuum. You know, the there's no meaning had becomes now Listrik, what's the point? And you get up every day you go to work, and what are you doing this all four main? What's the purpose, and this crisis of meaning really then most people default to hedonism just Joe is many leisure Z can before you kicked the bucket? I mean that's pretty shallow. But that's where we are. I mean, without religion and without. Out a spiritual philosophy of life. What you have left is just, you know. Pretty much. You know, get the most thrills, you can call it quits. So my thing is to help people meaning crisis, you, I have to decide how you going to decide what's true. No, unfortunately, there's no way to be certain certainty as that impossibility in this life. I mean, think of all the different viewpoints and perspectives. If truth was so easy to find everybody find it truth is really the, the best possible explanation. That's closest we can get truth, quote, unquote, does no capital T truth is just truth us in the best explanation. I mean, even when you think about concepts concept, still correspond perfectly with reality. The can't contain reality Reality's always bigger than a concept. That's why the Dow say the Dow that can be spoken, not the turtle Dow, because can't be contained in a concept, realities bigger than that always will be. I mean, how do you express the fullest really a concept you can't? So since reality can't be contained in a concept than the best we can get is the best concept to match the reality of the best Ken to correspond. And that's what I mean by truth is a correspondence between thought reality, but then Meena acclaim belief as when your belief matches closest possibles, you know, to reality. I mean, it's now can be a complete equivalence then you have truth or the best truths that we have at this time truth is not completely. Relative Amine is partly relative. Yes. 'cause they're different perspectives. But truth is a courts on his between a belief and reality between a claim in reality between a concept and reality. So I have to begin the process of looking for the truth and looking for the best worldview by coming up with some kind of methodology and my methodology is as based upon the basics of body Taoism that science. Psychology and philosophy and practical experiences. Our best means of discovering, what the truth is, and the truth again is correspondence between thought reality, and you decide that based on the evidence, the best available evidence, and you have to hold you all your conclusions as not alternate, not certain, but you have to believe something I mean, you have to operate on some belief why not have the best beliefs possible. And that's the only way to do that is based upon the evidence. The other thing in math apology of discovering what is truth is the autumns razor and do not multiply entities beyond what is necessary. If the natural world explains anything, you don't need the supernatural and just stay with the natural van, Yolly postulate, the supernatural, if the natural does not cannot explain it. The simple fact is. Every experience, you have is always wrapped in a container of concepts and concepts are always federal concepts are not reality and concepts are not the experience is wouldn't you relate, an experience you relate it based on concepts? In other words, you haven't experience and then you have an interpretation of experience. And unfortunately you never divide the two you don't realize that an experience an interpretation experience are not the same thing. I experienced one this with God. Well, that's an interpretation that feeling of one. This is the experience. K. But that one this with something you enter interpret that something as God. That's a conceptual overly. That doesn't mean that was God. That's just your interpretation of the experience. And the thing is people experience oneness with nature. Now we know nature exists. I mean, if I have to prove to you that the material world physical world exists and we have a bigger problem to contend with. But I take it for granted that most people who are saying understand the physical world exists, and they have to be argued into some kind of idealism. We're pretty much. What's called native realism? We realized the real world is real, okay? The physical world actually exists. Most people take that for granted, and I would say that that's accurate. And we have to begin there, and then if the physical world, the natural world exist, we don't need any other religion. We don't need any other entities. We can stop at the natural. We don't need the supernatural, and therefore though, meaning crisis can be saw. Solved. But it can only be solved. If we talk about the methodology are Pistole Amal, G R on tala Judy in order to get grounded in the real world, if that's sufficient stop there. There's no reason to supernatural if the natural world explains it, and I believe it does. And so that's the answer to the meeting crisis, and I appreciate you joining me. And until next time it was them guide you on the path of awakening..

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"forrest" Discussed on Awakening with Jay Nelson Forrest

Awakening with Jay Nelson Forrest

10:18 min | 2 years ago

"forrest" Discussed on Awakening with Jay Nelson Forrest

"Welcome friends. I'm Jay Elson Forrest. Thank you for joining me for another addition of a weakening. So I wanna talk about scientific naturalism. So one of the difficulties is tried to explain how Bodey Taoism is different from any number of religions and the best way that I can explain it is that Bodey Taoism is based upon scientific naturalism. So I guess the, the most important thing for me to do at this particular point is explained what Bodey Taoism or what's scientific naturalism is that bodied, how is amiss based on. So this is my definition of scientific naturalism scientific naturalism is the view that based on the evidence. The natural world is all there is, and that science is the best means of knowledge about this world. So I'm gonna read that again. Scientific natural is is of you that based on the evidence the natural world has all there is, and that science is the best means of knowledge about this world. So that's the basic meaning of scientific naturalism. That's what Bodey Taoism is based on, if you don't agree with scientific naturalism than Bodey Taoism is not for you. We follow the evidence. We file were science leads us. Now. There's some things I want to point out in this definition. Because when I talked to people about naturalism, they get confused. There's a difference between what's called philosophical naturalism and. Methodological naturalism, methodological naturalism is what science uses science basically brackets, supernatural claims, and simply studies. In other words, they don't look for supernatural answers, if they pop up another matter, they haven't, but if they did. That'd be another matter, but they're not looking for them because there's no evidence and no reason to look for the supernatural. Results. So methodological naturalism is what science use uses now in philosophy. We use naturalism in a different sense. We mean the natural all there is, and that can be verified. If anybody wants to search into I mean, you really have to basic positions, naturalism, the natural world is all there is supernatural, the natural world is not all there is those are really your only two options, either the natural world is all there is or it's not. Of course, there is the option of not believing in the natural world at all. But that's a whole nother ball of Bala wax. I mean, if you really can't help you, if you don't believe in the natural world. I often suggest people go into the room and smack themselves until they believe in the natural world. But you have to begin with the natural world and the evidence shows if you follow the evidence there is no evidence for the supernatural. So if you hypothesize the supernatural you're doing so outside of evidence outside of faith, and really are not interested in truth. You're interested in what you believe in other words, truth is no longer important. Your belief is what's important. And that Trump's evidence. In other words, you have faith, faith is except in a claim as true without evidence, and that will get you into all kinds of problems. I mean, literally there hundreds of thousands of different religions both now and throughout history, and no to actually agree. So which one is the right one. There is no right, one because you have no standard to decide which ones. Right. So one belief is a good as another. So you can't criticize anybody. If you believe in, if you. Operate on faith. Anything is true for you. Truth doesn't mean anything. So for me, you have to begin with you have to be done with scientific naturalism, if you don't you might as well just believe whatever your ancestors, believed or whatever, whatever you feel like believing. I mean it really truth is not important at that point, it's basically whatever you like. And that's what most people in spirituality. Do they go through in there, if they don't like their particular region, the born in, they kind of make their own, eclectic Lee? Pick this a little bit of that. And you know I like this Abboud ISM has a good thing over here. I'll take that I'll take a little Hinduism over there, all take a side of Judaism, little Kabbalah about some NAS descent. And oh, let's see. So it's like a smorgasbord you just you go to the dinner to the, the potluck of re. Religions debt and current and you just pick, whatever you want. Because truth doesn't matter because evidence doesn't matter. If evidence doesn't matter, the truth doesn't matter truth is the correspondence between thought and reality, and they'll the way you're gonna know there, if there's correspondences by the evidence, that's the only way not sub subjective feeling not some hunch, you have to have the evidence and by evidence. I mean verifiable evidence evidence that everybody can see if it evidence just for you. It's not evidence, so you have to start with scientific naturalism. Now, there's a couple of things I wanna point out in my definition scientific naturalism is not a. Bias? It's not a. Hypothesis. It's based on the evidence. There is no evidence for the supernatural there is evidence for the natural. That's like saying, okay, we're going to operate, our lives based upon the belief that there are no unicorns. And until there is evidence of unicorns, we're going to believe that there's no unicorns that seems pretty reasonable. Okay. It's the same thing, the natural world exist. Therefore, we're gonna work on the assumption the natural world exists until there's evidence of a supernatural, then if the evidence is, is sufficient, then will believe in the supernatural, but we are not going to jump into that. Unless there's good reason to believe so good, solid in pure ical objective verifiable evidence. So that's why I put in there based on the evidence. It's not just a, it's a presupposition based on the evidence. It's not just an unfair verifiable presupposition. It's a subset, and it's based upon the, the idea of autumn's razor, do not multiply entities beyond what is necessary. If your if all spiritual experiences can be explained by the natural. There is no new need for supernatural and that's my argument. There is no need for supernatural, mystical experiences can be explained by nature mysticism your connection and interconnection with the cosmos, we know that people who have experiences of one this with nature have the same essential one nece with nature that people have with one -ness of what they call God, but they don't understand that. God is an interpretation. It's not the experience the feeling of one. This is the experience. The interpretation is God nature. Those are. Interpretations. You have to separate the experience from the interpretation and all experiences can be explained under the interpretation of naturalism without reducing it to non meaning new understand. There's some people that want to reduce it to, to nothing, you know that it's just allusion. No, the experiences are real that feeling one. This is real. And we know from science that everything is interconnected. So it actually makes sense that we'd have these experiences. So again, we go back to scientific naturalism the natural world is all there is. And that science is the best means of knowledge about this world. This is important, please, listen carefully. I did not say science is the only means of knowledge about this world, just the best. Okay. Science is not the only way we know things. But a lot of the things we know outside of science is open for interpretation and is unverified will or not usually verified. So some of those things are true about nature and some of those things might not be true about this world, but is our best, most reliable most solid knowledge that we have, but not our only, and you have to understand that because this is where people, you know, misunderstand scientific naturalism love is not a is not an empirical thing. You can show by science. That doesn't mean that love is not true or real or an actual thing in the world. It is. But it's not verifiable by science. The actions may be, and we might be able to, to get into some neuro science and stuff like that. That to verify a mental state of, of love or something like this. But right now, we don't have the capacity to do that. But just because science can't verify it doesn't necessarily mean it's not true. What I'm saying is in the natural world has all there is and sciences, the best means of knowing about this world. That's all I'm saying. So now that means that there are number of truth claims that are made, and I would say, a truth claim is wrong under these seven circumstances. A truth claim is wrong if it is not..

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"forrest" Discussed on Awakening with Jay Nelson Forrest

Awakening with Jay Nelson Forrest

10:18 min | 2 years ago

"forrest" Discussed on Awakening with Jay Nelson Forrest

"Welcome friends. I'm Jay Elson Forrest. Thank you for joining me for another addition of a weakening. So I wanna talk about scientific naturalism. So one of the difficulties is tried to explain how Bodey Taoism is different from any number of religions and the best way that I can explain it is that Bodey Taoism is based upon scientific naturalism. So I guess the, the most important thing for me to do at this particular point is explained what Bodey Taoism or what's scientific naturalism is that bodied, how is amiss based on. So this is my definition of scientific naturalism scientific naturalism is the view that based on the evidence. The natural world is all there is, and that science is the best means of knowledge about this world. So I'm gonna read that again. Scientific natural is is of you that based on the evidence the natural world has all there is, and that science is the best means of knowledge about this world. So that's the basic meaning of scientific naturalism. That's what Bodey Taoism is based on, if you don't agree with scientific naturalism than Bodey Taoism is not for you. We follow the evidence. We file were science leads us. Now. There's some things I want to point out in this definition. Because when I talked to people about naturalism, they get confused. There's a difference between what's called philosophical naturalism and. Methodological naturalism, methodological naturalism is what science uses science basically brackets, supernatural claims, and simply studies. In other words, they don't look for supernatural answers, if they pop up another matter, they haven't, but if they did. That'd be another matter, but they're not looking for them because there's no evidence and no reason to look for the supernatural. Results. So methodological naturalism is what science use uses now in philosophy. We use naturalism in a different sense. We mean the natural all there is, and that can be verified. If anybody wants to search into I mean, you really have to basic positions, naturalism, the natural world is all there is supernatural, the natural world is not all there is those are really your only two options, either the natural world is all there is or it's not. Of course, there is the option of not believing in the natural world at all. But that's a whole nother ball of Bala wax. I mean, if you really can't help you, if you don't believe in the natural world. I often suggest people go into the room and smack themselves until they believe in the natural world. But you have to begin with the natural world and the evidence shows if you follow the evidence there is no evidence for the supernatural. So if you hypothesize the supernatural you're doing so outside of evidence outside of faith, and really are not interested in truth. You're interested in what you believe in other words, truth is no longer important. Your belief is what's important. And that Trump's evidence. In other words, you have faith, faith is except in a claim as true without evidence, and that will get you into all kinds of problems. I mean, literally there hundreds of thousands of different religions both now and throughout history, and no to actually agree. So which one is the right one. There is no right, one because you have no standard to decide which ones. Right. So one belief is a good as another. So you can't criticize anybody. If you believe in, if you. Operate on faith. Anything is true for you. Truth doesn't mean anything. So for me, you have to begin with you have to be done with scientific naturalism, if you don't you might as well just believe whatever your ancestors, believed or whatever, whatever you feel like believing. I mean it really truth is not important at that point, it's basically whatever you like. And that's what most people in spirituality. Do they go through in there, if they don't like their particular region, the born in, they kind of make their own, eclectic Lee? Pick this a little bit of that. And you know I like this Abboud ISM has a good thing over here. I'll take that I'll take a little Hinduism over there, all take a side of Judaism, little Kabbalah about some NAS descent. And oh, let's see. So it's like a smorgasbord you just you go to the dinner to the, the potluck of re. Religions debt and current and you just pick, whatever you want. Because truth doesn't matter because evidence doesn't matter. If evidence doesn't matter, the truth doesn't matter truth is the correspondence between thought and reality, and they'll the way you're gonna know there, if there's correspondences by the evidence, that's the only way not sub subjective feeling not some hunch, you have to have the evidence and by evidence. I mean verifiable evidence evidence that everybody can see if it evidence just for you. It's not evidence, so you have to start with scientific naturalism. Now, there's a couple of things I wanna point out in my definition scientific naturalism is not a. Bias? It's not a. Hypothesis. It's based on the evidence. There is no evidence for the supernatural there is evidence for the natural. That's like saying, okay, we're going to operate, our lives based upon the belief that there are no unicorns. And until there is evidence of unicorns, we're going to believe that there's no unicorns that seems pretty reasonable. Okay. It's the same thing, the natural world exist. Therefore, we're gonna work on the assumption the natural world exists until there's evidence of a supernatural, then if the evidence is, is sufficient, then will believe in the supernatural, but we are not going to jump into that. Unless there's good reason to believe so good, solid in pure ical objective verifiable evidence. So that's why I put in there based on the evidence. It's not just a, it's a presupposition based on the evidence. It's not just an unfair verifiable presupposition. It's a subset, and it's based upon the, the idea of autumn's razor, do not multiply entities beyond what is necessary. If your if all spiritual experiences can be explained by the natural. There is no new need for supernatural and that's my argument. There is no need for supernatural, mystical experiences can be explained by nature mysticism your connection and interconnection with the cosmos, we know that people who have experiences of one this with nature have the same essential one nece with nature that people have with one -ness of what they call God, but they don't understand that. God is an interpretation. It's not the experience the feeling of one. This is the experience. The interpretation is God nature. Those are. Interpretations. You have to separate the experience from the interpretation and all experiences can be explained under the interpretation of naturalism without reducing it to non meaning new understand. There's some people that want to reduce it to, to nothing, you know that it's just allusion. No, the experiences are real that feeling one. This is real. And we know from science that everything is interconnected. So it actually makes sense that we'd have these experiences. So again, we go back to scientific naturalism the natural world is all there is. And that science is the best means of knowledge about this world. This is important, please, listen carefully. I did not say science is the only means of knowledge about this world, just the best. Okay. Science is not the only way we know things. But a lot of the things we know outside of science is open for interpretation and is unverified will or not usually verified. So some of those things are true about nature and some of those things might not be true about this world, but is our best, most reliable most solid knowledge that we have, but not our only, and you have to understand that because this is where people, you know, misunderstand scientific naturalism love is not a is not an empirical thing. You can show by science. That doesn't mean that love is not true or real or an actual thing in the world. It is. But it's not verifiable by science. The actions may be, and we might be able to, to get into some neuro science and stuff like that. That to verify a mental state of, of love or something like this. But right now, we don't have the capacity to do that. But just because science can't verify it doesn't necessarily mean it's not true. What I'm saying is in the natural world has all there is and sciences, the best means of knowing about this world. That's all I'm saying. So now that means that there are number of truth claims that are made, and I would say, a truth claim is wrong under these seven circumstances. A truth claim is wrong if it is not..

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Awakening with Jay Nelson Forrest

10:09 min | 2 years ago

"forrest" Discussed on Awakening with Jay Nelson Forrest

"You could call it personal growth. You could call it spiritual growth, but it actually minds both. So let's start with the two aspects of the process of I growth or psycho spiritual growth. The first is the process of personal growth. Now, Stephen Kobe is the one that I originally got this from. But my understanding he got it from somebody else's. Well so and basically your growth takes place in three stages. You go through a process of dependence, like when you're four years old and stuff, you're kinda dependent on people then in your teenage years you go through the independence process, and then somewhere hopefully in adulthood, you go through an interdependence stage where you realize that all things are connected. And this actually can be subdivided. This is what I subdivide interdependence into two phases. The social interdependence and cosmic interdependence, the socialists when you realize that people are. Dependent on one another in that you both have to be dependent and. Be people have depend on you and you have to depend on others, and there has to be that independence as well. So it's kind of a combination between dependence and independence and social is realizing that the entire society is connected. We're all in this together kind of concept, and then the further stages, Cozma interdependence, and that is sorely needed in our society today. We need to realize that all things are connected. Natures connected, and we need to understand our interdependence on nature interconnection. And so that's the three basic or four stages of personal growth. And of course, the goal of personal growth is flourishing, which I've talked about many times, which combines the personal growth. Which is what the aspect of talking about now. Inner peace, equanimity tranquility and meaning in life. So. That's the process. So you and you can see this, that you can see a lot of people that go through a long period of dependence, who haven't really immature to independence and you have those that are still stuck in the teenage attitude of independence to do my own thing. My way or the highway kind of idea. And then you have mature adults reaching the place of interdependence. Socially, and then even a smaller amount of people, grow into cosmic interdependence, or global interdependence. If you will. So that's the personal growth part. Now the spiritual growth yet understand my definition of spirituality and spirit. So I defined spirit as consciousness. So spirituality deals with the deepening and widening of consciousness of our wariness of our connection with reality with nature. And so this goes through three stages. The subconscious the self conscious and the super conscious. Now, you probably heard self-conscious before, that's when you reach that point of Indian independence, and you can see they coincide, very well, with the, the personal growth, sub-conscious, that is the things that are not conscious of the things that rule us during our dependence stage. We become self conscious in our independent stage and we've become super super conscious in our interdependence stage out, of course, the two aspects of that means social and cosmic. So sub-conscious is when you're just not aware, you're living your life on autopilot. And a lot of people don't get past this. Until late in life where they realize really more to life than just going through the motions living by the some conscious urges, just going out and, and living that way. And you can see the subconscious carries into the self conscious, but self conscious is really when you begin to realize that, you know, you are your own person, you begin to realize you are, you know, your own controller your own caretaker, and this goes back to an old idea that I don't find very much talked about, except by back in the early days, eighteen hundred something like that this thing of personal self government that means you've got to govern yourself, self control, but self gurvey. It contains. Two government has to do two things. Nafta do them. Well, they have to control and the half to care. And those a trade off between the two. So you got to do the same for yourself. You've got to control yourself because you're pretty much the absolute monarch over your own. Body and psyche. And you've got to also care for yourself. A lot of people don't understand that. Self governance, governance tixx, both those aspects you gotta take care of yourself and even though you're supposed to love your neighbor as yourself, you have more control, and therefore more responsibility to care for yourself. Not selfishly, not at the expense of others, but the fact that you have control of yourself means that you do take care of yourself, I because otherwise you're no good to help others if that makes sense. So you've got to make sure that you understand that self self-governance deals, specifically with that aspect taking care of yourself and controlling yourself. And of course, control is, is use very little that we actually can control. I actually divide this into three phases. Which we can control that which we can influence and that which we cannot control or influence. So. If you're familiar with the stoic, they had the dichotomy of choice, and the Kadhamy choices things you can control and things that you cannot control. And I think this is accurate. I think it's helpful, but I don't think it is the complete picture, there are things you can influence. By words and actions and deeds. That you should whenever you can but not at the expense of your own. Highest good. So you go through these stages of sub-conscious, and self conscious you reach the stage of super conscious. Now, you might wonder what the heck is super conscious. So if you look up Mariam Webster dot com, you'll see that super conscious can be defined as of relating to, or possessing the highest consciousness, or margin of consciousness above that within the ordinary range attention, the Oxford, dictionary defines as transcending human or normal consciousness. And I would that's probably the easiest super consciousness is that consciousness was transcends normal consciousness. The APA dictionary, the American, psychological. Cessation dictionary says in the tradition of humanistic psychology a higher state of awareness that is associated with creative inspiration, spiritual insight and the teammate of peak experiences or spiritual experiences, I'd prefer to say, so, of course, they're talking about Abraham modules definition of peak experiences there. So those are the three basic stages of growth, both in the spiritual which is the subconscious self conscious and super conscious and the personal aspects which is dependent interdependent independence and interdependence. Both an interdependent, of course can reach the social, and then the cosmic levels, which is the highest that we can hope for as a species is to reach the cosmic. Awareness of our interdependence that all things are interdependent. So those are the basic stages of psycho spiritual growth. I hope that, that helped you kind of put some conceptualization to the process of personal growth we get into different aspects like the hero's journey, and, and things like that, and how they correspond to this. But we'll go ahead and pass that on past that up for today. I appreciate you. Joining me just wanted to let you know that we are now an iheartradio. So if you have I heart radio can look for waking with Jay Nelson forced, and you'll find it on iheartradio. And with that I will bid you do and have a great day. And until next time may wisdom guide just ups on the path of awakening..

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"forrest" Discussed on Awakening with Jay Nelson Forrest

Awakening with Jay Nelson Forrest

05:37 min | 2 years ago

"forrest" Discussed on Awakening with Jay Nelson Forrest

"Uh-huh. Welcome to awakening. I'm Jay Nelson forest today. I wanna talk about psychology and spirituality. So as I've been continually continuing my study. I've taken the dive into what's called trans personal psychology. And the reason I've left that particular branch of psychology for last to delve into is because it hasn't Tennessee to. Crossed the lines from a science into religion. It is kind of like a religious psychology. And what I mean by that is they will accept paranormal. Phenomenon such as psychic abilities, clairvoyance, ghosts demons. Spiritual worlds. It's kind of like a. Acceptance of the religious aspects, but trying to deal with it from a psychological. In other words, it's not institutional in the sense. It's not a church. It's not a denomination. It's kind of like a psychological version of the Asif iw. With the. CIO Sophy kind of throws everything into one big bundle. You know, it's, it's kind of the, the catalyst for the new age movement. So the new age movement does pretty much. Express some the eclecticism the in. Oh, there's no truth. But your own truth can of idea, even though they claim that no truth is hire them or no religions higher than truth. The truth are speaking of is your own truce. So it's a very subjective truth in that sense. And that's why you have different Theophilus going different directions because there's not any real direction, it's kind of like these all teach the same thing you've got to figure out how they are the same because, you know, if if you know anything about Christianity and Buddhism, they're not the same thing. And there's no way that you can harmonize those two things. With, like Teradata Buddhism, and even Djelic Christianity. Those things are not no matter how many maneuvers and, and contortions you go into there's no way to reconcile those if you're honest with the, the systems themselves, and what they do is they're, they're dishonest in the sense that they. Reinterpret those in the archetypal setting. And then try to, you know, bake all, you know, square pegs fit the round holes. So the JAMA men and, and they're not honest with the, the, the, the traditions themselves. So, so that's my problem with why postpone getting into transfers transferral psychology. 'cause I knew that it embraced aspects that were not verifiable by science and departed from the. Lou world view that I hold, which is naturalism the natural world has all there is. And because of that, I knew that I'd be treading on two areas that in which I disagreed. And so when I got to into the study and started looking at much of the material, I found that I was actually correct. You know you have things that in there like, you know, levitated and. The soul. Some these spiritual healing stuff near death experiences. The shock rose. Things of this nature. That, of course, science hasn't verified that such things exist. And then to build your whole psychology on something that's not verifiable to me, doesn't sound like a good plan. So that's why. Kind of a void getting into until now, one of the things, though, that I did think about when I was doing, this is really, we need to distinguish, even if we take psychology in it's more naturalistic sense. And that's what I do cognitive therapy, things of this nature, even many of things Carl Jung has said qualify within the natural Listrik setting although he does crossover and I would consider him.

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Awakening with Jay Nelson Forrest

06:51 min | 2 years ago

"forrest" Discussed on Awakening with Jay Nelson Forrest

"Welcome to awake at. I'm Jay Nelson forest today wanna talk about deconstructing God. So what I wanna do is. I want since we've decided to rive decided to incorporate. God talk. I've decided to go ahead in. Really take apart the concept of God a little further than just the normal idea of God. So what I did is. I originally thought well, you know, there's many. Subdivisions we can go through on God. But really today I just wanna talk about four four concepts that you can subdivide God into and they are fate personal ideal ultimate concern and reality. So I want to break that down to those four and just kinda delve into each one a little bit so fade is basically the fact that you're not in control of the world. You're not in control of the way things. Go your and the stoicism was really good at saying you need to understand what's actually under your control. And what's not? And I don't think that we're. Usually conscious of just how much is not under our control. Basically just about everything in your life is not under your control, not that you can't have some influence, but it's not as you control only that which you completely direct is under your control, even your body. You know is not completely under your control something as as connected to you as possible your body, you can't control whether your body gets sick or tired or any of the number of things. What color your eyes are? There's a lot of things that you can't control. So our spear of control is actually much smaller than we actually realize. And although we do have influence in in things of the world pretty much everybody in our lives is not under control pretty much every. Thing in the world is not under our control. We might be able to have influence on a person or a thing or Nevada, but is just an influence. We can't control it. And so the the great teaching of stoicism to concentrate on that, which is in your control and stoicism actually defines a refers to God is part of the the fate or the destiny or the fortune of people and to surrender to that. The the thing I disagree with stoicism on is they say that that's that. God that fate that destiny that fortune is alternately for your good, and there's some advantages to be an optimistic. But I think that the universe is indifferent. It doesn't care about you. So. Whatever God, we conceive that God has to be an end in different God. And if it's an indifferent God than it has to be more like fate and fortune and the working out of the laws of nature. So the second. Aspect of God that I'm looking at today. And like you said, we could probably subdivide. Over and over again. But I'm just picking these four is a personal ideal. So think of this when you think of God, and you think of we'll just take the Christian. God says most familiar with people. There's the imitation of Christ that also in the bible talks about being imitators of God. So God is eight ideal. And you can see this pretty clearly if you actually kinda step back and realize in the Old Testament, you see God completely different who's telling people to kill man woman and child and even the baby in the womb? To kill them to actually wipe out entire nations in the New Testament, you have God's who? So loved the world that he gave his only begotten son. So is a complete so much. So that one of the early what was later considered a heretic Marsin believed that they're actually two gods was the Demi Moore JR. And the other was the the father of Jesus. That's how radical if you actually are honest with the the Old Testament. Most people don't read the Old Testament, especially the Pentateuch and the historical accounts. Well, the the history books is what they're called how much history is actually in. There is debatable. But Joshua and books like that the the chronicles kings wanted to you'll see things that just you know, are appalling if you know that your idea of God. But in the New Testament, there's a new cleaned up polish version of God, not perfectly, but you know, much more loving and looking out for the world and. A more benevolent if you will. And so you see mankind has and you see this. If you study if you do any comparative religious studies, you'll see that people create God's their own image. So the Greeks created Zeus in their own image and the rest of the pantheon of gods and the Israelites created Joe VAR, y'all way or elohim in their own image in Islam, you'll see that they're creating Allah in their own image that the Allah is for the air ABS, and you have to follow what they feel as the ideal. So what they do is they they have a personal ideal. They have the ideal man or woman and they project that onto the concept of God. So that's what I'm talking about. When I talk about the personal ideal. The perfect, man. The perfect woman is that projection that they put onto the concept of

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"forrest" Discussed on Awakening with Jay Nelson Forrest

Awakening with Jay Nelson Forrest

06:51 min | 2 years ago

"forrest" Discussed on Awakening with Jay Nelson Forrest

"Welcome to awake at. I'm Jay Nelson forest today wanna talk about deconstructing God. So what I wanna do is. I want since we've decided to rive decided to incorporate. God talk. I've decided to go ahead in. Really take apart the concept of God a little further than just the normal idea of God. So what I did is. I originally thought well, you know, there's many. Subdivisions we can go through on God. But really today I just wanna talk about four four concepts that you can subdivide God into and they are fate personal ideal ultimate concern and reality. So I want to break that down to those four and just kinda delve into each one a little bit so fade is basically the fact that you're not in control of the world. You're not in control of the way things. Go your and the stoicism was really good at saying you need to understand what's actually under your control. And what's not? And I don't think that we're. Usually conscious of just how much is not under our control. Basically just about everything in your life is not under your control, not that you can't have some influence, but it's not as you control only that which you completely direct is under your control, even your body. You know is not completely under your control something as as connected to you as possible your body, you can't control whether your body gets sick or tired or any of the number of things. What color your eyes are? There's a lot of things that you can't control. So our spear of control is actually much smaller than we actually realize. And although we do have influence in in things of the world pretty much everybody in our lives is not under control pretty much every. Thing in the world is not under our control. We might be able to have influence on a person or a thing or Nevada, but is just an influence. We can't control it. And so the the great teaching of stoicism to concentrate on that, which is in your control and stoicism actually defines a refers to God is part of the the fate or the destiny or the fortune of people and to surrender to that. The the thing I disagree with stoicism on is they say that that's that. God that fate that destiny that fortune is alternately for your good, and there's some advantages to be an optimistic. But I think that the universe is indifferent. It doesn't care about you. So. Whatever God, we conceive that God has to be an end in different God. And if it's an indifferent God than it has to be more like fate and fortune and the working out of the laws of nature. So the second. Aspect of God that I'm looking at today. And like you said, we could probably subdivide. Over and over again. But I'm just picking these four is a personal ideal. So think of this when you think of God, and you think of we'll just take the Christian. God says most familiar with people. There's the imitation of Christ that also in the bible talks about being imitators of God. So God is eight ideal. And you can see this pretty clearly if you actually kinda step back and realize in the Old Testament, you see God completely different who's telling people to kill man woman and child and even the baby in the womb? To kill them to actually wipe out entire nations in the New Testament, you have God's who? So loved the world that he gave his only begotten son. So is a complete so much. So that one of the early what was later considered a heretic Marsin believed that they're actually two gods was the Demi Moore JR. And the other was the the father of Jesus. That's how radical if you actually are honest with the the Old Testament. Most people don't read the Old Testament, especially the Pentateuch and the historical accounts. Well, the the history books is what they're called how much history is actually in. There is debatable. But Joshua and books like that the the chronicles kings wanted to you'll see things that just you know, are appalling if you know that your idea of God. But in the New Testament, there's a new cleaned up polish version of God, not perfectly, but you know, much more loving and looking out for the world and. A more benevolent if you will. And so you see mankind has and you see this. If you study if you do any comparative religious studies, you'll see that people create God's their own image. So the Greeks created Zeus in their own image and the rest of the pantheon of gods and the Israelites created Joe VAR, y'all way or elohim in their own image in Islam, you'll see that they're creating Allah in their own image that the Allah is for the air ABS, and you have to follow what they feel as the ideal. So what they do is they they have a personal ideal. They have the ideal man or woman and they project that onto the concept of God. So that's what I'm talking about. When I talk about the personal ideal. The perfect, man. The perfect woman is that projection that they put onto the concept of

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