14 Episode results for "Ford Prefect"

The Hitch Hikers Guide to the Galaxy_ EP1 P1

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08:45 min | Last month

The Hitch Hikers Guide to the Galaxy_ EP1 P1

"Learn. This is the story of the high cost guide to the galaxy. Perhaps, the most remarkable sent me the most successful book ever to come out of the great publishing corporations versus a minor. More. Popular than the celestial home. Care Omnibus better selling fifty three more things to do in zero gravity and more controversial than Ulan. Collusion's trilogy of Philosophical Blockbusters Wag. God went wrong. Some more of God's greatest mistakes and just this God person anyway. And in many of the more relaxed civilizations on the eastern Rim of the Galaxy, the HITCHHIKER's guide has already supplanted the Great Encyclopedia Galactica as the stunned repository of all knowledge and wisdom because although it has many emissions can take much that is a poker over what these wildly inaccurate it scores over the older more pedestrian work to important ways. First she slightly cheaper. And seconded has the words don't make scrapped enlarge friendly letters on the cover. Tell the story of the book. It's best to tell the story of some of the minds behind it. Human from the planet Earth was one of them though as our story opens, he no more knows his destiny than TV knows the history of the east India Company. His name is Arthur Dent. He's a five foot, eight, eight descendant and someone is trying to build a bypass through his home. Come off eight, Mr Dan you call win you know there's no point lying down the path of progress. I've gone off the idea of progress. It's over rated, which early even you must realize that you call it my down in front of my bulldozers indefinitely I'm game we'll see who rusts I. I'm afraid you're going to have to accept it. You know this bypass has got to be built and it is going to be built nothing you can say, Oh do why is it got to be built? What do you mean why is it got to be built? It's a bypassing nate you've got to build bypasses did anyone consider the alternatives? There aren't any alternatives will draw quite entitled to make any suggestions or protests the appropriate talk appropriate time. I I heard about this was when of Workman end up at the House yesterday. I thought he'd come to clean the windows. He told me he'd come to demolish the house. You didn't tell me straight away. Of course. No especially white to couple of windows and charge me ten. He told me what Mr that the crumbs have been available in the planning phase for the last nine months Oh. Yes and as soon as I. Heard I down to New York Centre to see them. Exactly gone out of your way too much attention to how'd you need like actually telling anybody or anything, but plans were on display and how many average members of the public in the habit of casually dropping round at the local planning office of an evening. It's not exactly a noted social venue is as. If you had popped on the chance that some raving bureaucrat wanted knock your house down the plans went immediately abused to the I would a lot depends where you will okay I. Eventually had to go down to the cellar that's the display department with a torch Yes. The Lights had probably gone so that the stairs but you've found the notice didn't you? Yes, it was on display in the bottom of a luck piling cabinet stuck in a disused laboratory. Sign on the door saying beware of the Leopard. Ever, thought going into advertising. It is if it's a particularly noise house anyway I'm rather like it Mr Dead Hello yes. Have you any idea how much damage this bulldozer would suffer if I were to just rose straight over Much not at all. By strange coincidence none at all is exactly how much suspicion the APE to send it. Arthur Dent had that one of his closest friends was not descended from an eight was in fact for a small planet somewhere in the vicinity of beetlejuice. Offer dench. Valley to suspect this reflects the care with which his best friend blended himself into human society after a fairly shaky start. When he arrived on Earth fifteen years ago. The minimal research done suggested to him that the name Ford Prefect be nicely inconspicuous. He will enter out store in thirty seconds and say, hello, Arthur Halava. The descendant will greet him in return. Hi How But indifference to a million years of human evolution, he will not attempt to pick fleas of. Earth been not proud of the ancestors endeavor in the relative didn't. Hello also, Ford Hi how are you? Yeah, I'm fine. Look busy I just this bulldozer to line from. My house down otherwise no, not especially let's condense the Kogler. We can drink and have a talk. Waiting. For don't you understand that man wants my house style, we can do that whilst your way called Hey, don't want him to. Oh dear. What is the matter nothing nothing semester. Off Now you're listening to me I've got to tell you the most important thing you've ever heard and I've got to tell you now the reckon why because you need a very stiff drink now we have to go no wait about my house. He wants a house down yes and he conned because you're lying in the waves bulldozers. That's it. Can come some arrangements. Alot. To come to his senses, yet can leave for the merits of. that he hasn't well, can. We also assume that he's going to be lying there all day. So so all you'll man be standing around here all day doing nothing could be. If you signed to doing that anyway, you don't actually need him to lie there in front of the does all the time do well no not exactly need such, right. So if you just take it as read, which is actually that than he and I can nick off down the popoff. Now, how does that sound? It's out perfectly reasonable I suppose. Fueled Papa for quick yourself later on, we can always come for you re Tom. Yes. Thanks very much. I. Suppose we don't actually need in there for the whole time. Excellent. So if you just like to come over here. Mean it's very simple. My client Mr Dan says he will stop lying here in the mode on the sole condition you take over from. You talking about Sh-. Sorry. You want me to come down there. Yes. In front of the Boulder. Instead of Mr Dent? Yes. In the mode in as you say, the Mot-. In return for which you will take Mr de you down to the pub yes promise promise. Down Oh a no sneaking Lee knocking Mr Dense house down while he's right. All right. What the slightest though to even begin to speculate about the mirrors possibility of crossing my mind. Entrusting myself accustomed to the end of the earth how that about fifteen minutes come on I need a drink address to go to the park. Sweet. By drink prefect alcohol. Encyclopedia galactica describes alcoholism colorless volatile liquid formed by the tation of sugars and also notes. It's intoxicating effects on certain carbon based lifeforms. The hitchhiker's guide to the galaxy also mentioned alcohol. It says that the best drink in existence is the Pan Galactic Gargle blaster effective, which is like having your brain splashdown with a slice of lemon wrapped around gold brick. The guide also Chelsea on which planet the best electic Goggle blasters or mixed, how much you can expect to pay for one and what organizations exist to help you rehabilitate. The man who invented this mind bubbling drink also invented the wisest remark ever made, which was this. Never drink more than two Pan Galactic Goggle blasters unless you a thirty ton elephant with bronchial pneumonia. Is, maybe stapled people rocks, and we should work for his wisdom later.

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Gordon Lonsdale

Spies of London

19:47 min | 2 months ago

Gordon Lonsdale

"Welcome to Spies of London. This episode is a book review of the illegal by Gordon Carrera from the BBC the hunt for a Russian spy on a post-war London and it's about the Spy Gordon Lonsdale Gordon. Lonsdale was a Canadian man who came to Britain by ship. He told everyone had been born on the 27th of August 1924 in Ontario Canada in reality. He was Conan meladi born in Moscow. Now, I've come across God in Lonsdale many times. He was easily one of the best and most Professional Russian spies operating in Britain at any time. He was known to me because he was involved in a prisoner swap without wanting to give you too many spoilers as he was highly valued by the KGB and he met George Blake in Moscow and George Blake & Garden Lonsdale were betrayed by the song. So some people suggest that if they hadn't been portrayed particular Lonsdale might never have been discovered by the time he was discovered clearly his super deep secret undercover of work which involved him taking on this Canadian identity living in Britain away from his young family was taking its toll and more than that as with so many of the best writers when Lonsdale go back to Moscow. He started to compare it to what he'd seen in the west and realized that the West Was better. I was richer more exciting more interesting more. Make more fun and he had serious alcohol problems, but there were a few details about Lonsdale which intrigued me and I have to say I thought God God unless there was a man a name is not quite true. I thought it was a little bit like Douglas Adams when describing the alien Ford prefect. He had researched and discovered that Ford prefect were in such wide use birth. That the name Ford prefect would be an inconspicuous name for a human younger listeners including me might not know that the Ford prefect was a car. So God and Lonsdale to me sounded like a sports bag. But in fact goddamn long was a real name a real person of a young boy who had a Canadian boy who had gone to Russia and died there and to Garden Lonsdale Melody took up that identity theft too easy to fake up a few dates and things and and make it look like you are the person who's died. A lot of intelligence agencies in the past have used this technique. I find it a bit creepy because the people died waiting to be very young quite often children even babies and to me I don't know they would see it as a cat a form of warfare and it's all in the cause and everything but stealing the identity of a dead baby just seems bizarre. Anyway God along there was not a baby, but he did die in Russia and his identity was there for for taking and the KGB took it and assigned it to miladi Once home. Trained up had been in the Red Army had gone to school in America. He had this kind of international background. He sailed to New York or an ocean liner and became a spy as with all good spies. They all bought several names. He met a man on a bench in Central Park who introduced himself as Emile goldfish. He was really William Fisher but better known as a Rudolf Abel. He had been born in New England in 1903, but to Russian parents. So the thing about communism Cold War spying post-war spying and indeed the moles of the thirties the King Philip and so on they will often driven by ideology and I've mentioned this several times on the walks and in the podcast that it is difficult to put ourselves into the mindset of the thirties forties in Europe. War was inevitable sides had to be chosen and some people chose the Victoria side and some people chose the other side that's always happening but for some reason the echo And the ripples from that time still live with us today. It is very obvious for us to say that communism has its limitations that it's economically bankrupt ideologically bankrupt way. It works on a Ponzi scheme at the center where if you get rich and the masses the millions and millions of normal people get manipulated and lied to now that may be a very brief overview of Communism, but it's a pretty accurate one not to say Catholicism isn't without its faults, but it at least tries or strives to be meritocratic and fair that's a different conversation to say that it might not always work like that. But getting rich is part of the leader of capitalism, whereas in communism. It's it's described as a kind of a failing of an evil unless you're one of the elite of course in which case it's strongly encouraged communism has at its heart a a deep cynicism and a double life and from a distance from England from France Germany, even from Canada and America if you read the text books about communism, you think we'll okay. Everybody has a job every looked after wage. He has a home is no homeless people. Everybody's fed. Nobody's hungry. It kind of looks great at a time when people were hungry in Britain. They were starving in the thirties in America this kind of notion of a society which could be organized in which everybody got along and was nice to each other and looked out for each other and helped each other and there were no rich people and there were no poor people and everybody was middle class. These were powerful ideas for first of all, upper-middle-class people never had to work and never needed to but also for anybody working classes anybody would be attracted to that. Once they saw the poverty in wage Europe is completely understandable to me that intelligent people in huge numbers thought that communism was a good idea. You have Kim filter you have charge blade you have melodia Lonsdale all on different sides different Nash his different backgrounds, but all agreeing with each other that communism was better than Fascism and that it had to be one of the other there was no middle way you either a communist of the left or a fascist of the right place. And everybody hated the fascists there for anybody with a rational logical mind would become a communist. So that kind of thinking has led me to soften my opinions of filthy and the rest of that particular the episodes about guy Burgess and the walking special episodes as well. But I will be coming back to this with a Donald MacLean book to Alan Bennett has helped to persuade me that the spies were not the traitors that allows people like to think he wrote to at least two players about spies possibly more and one of them in particular about guy Burgess and he is off the view that there were no worse than the rest of them and that they weren't half wrong bad as people make out Lonsdale originally entered Canada using the identity of a live double that is a living Canadian communist who had volunteered his passport for the cause and in later on became this dead double goddamned to have a child born in Canada in nineteen twenty-four who had emigrated to the Soviet Union with his finish mother and died there in nineteen forty-three melotti first got hold an identity card, which is easier to get than a passport wage. And then that led on later to a passport of Canada. He then writes too so s the the Chinese school at the University of London gets on a course there and somebody recommends to him. He should join the Royal Seas league in Saint James is on the S and James's which is interesting to me cuz I nearly joined that once cuz they have a deal with the London Library. They do have clubs all around the world and it strikes me as a very obvious place for a spy to arrive at home. You can live there in an International Community where not many questions will be asked meladi returned from Canada to New York crossing over Niagara Falls is Gordon Lonsdale in February 1955 and made his way back to London. Now, this is a book review in the style of the London Review of Books. So we don't really mention the book very much. It is a Kindle single. It's only sixty or seventy Pages. It'll cost you about eighty pounds about a dollar home and it's fabulous definitely recommended. It's clean. It's short. It's factual. It's done by a pro. You can read it in about an hour, but it's just amazing. It's really good. There's a guy in Bridge. The one who eventually led to his downfall was Harry Horton Horton joined the Navy at sixteen and after the second world war took a position at the admiralty that led him to a posting in Warsaw in nineteen fifty-one by now in his mid-forties. They felt out of place in the Diplomatic community and Halton dealt in the black market selling penicillin. It seems to be money that drove him to reproach a secretary of the Polish Minister of Foreign Affairs in Warsaw. So Horton was in it for the money not for radiology, which immediately put him down the ladder in lonsdale's eyes and indeed many other people's eyes to he was British, but he portrayed his country for cash but nevertheless his wartime service and background eventually led him to a real life a top-secret job. The KGB were not sure that he could be bought as they pretended to be from Poland and said look, we're polish spies went to work for us. It was only later that they admitted that they were actually the kg be dead. But by this time Horton had a job at the underwater weapons establishment at Portland in Dorset, and he had absolutely white-hot connections there. So he was working on with his girlfriend off the sonar for Britain's first nuclear submarine, the dreadnoughts. Absolutely Prime information KGB had a few problems with him. He was difficult to manage and the eventually assigned him to God and Lonsdale home run him for I think a number of years certainly quite a while. It was the 11th of July 1959. When Horton was first introduced to Lonsdale both men had completely opposite opinions of each other still hated Horton and Horton thought they were kind of friends now no story about spies in Britain during this period of time would be complete without mentioning Peter right the Spy Catcher And fact the writer of the book called home I capture and this seems to be a common theme that Peter Reich wrote his book to make money because his MI5 pension was so bad. There is somebody in this story who had to go into business in retirement age. His his armor five pension was so bad. It makes you wonder whether am I five would have done better just to give them all a proper pension to be honest, especially at that time as public-sector pensions were supposed to be generous. Anyway, that's just my sniping and indeed the man who eventually betrayed Lonsdale and George Blake was given the codename sniper. It was late April nineteen sixty and someone had been sending Anonymous letters to the CIA written in German. So the agents sniper claimed that the Russians have two very important spies in Britain one in British intelligence the other in the Navy these two unknowns were codenamed Lombardo one and Lombardo to and this was during the aftermath of the philby scandals British intelligence were certain they had no mole, but he'd later turned out to be George Blake. It was the Navy one that worried people because they didn't know who it could be. This was Horton remember and the claim was that the name sounded something like Hopkins or hopner, which is very far away in SpongeBob. And sound but the case was eventually handed to a guy called Charles L. Will it was later found that LOL was in one of the photographs found in one of lonsdale's briefcases some of the words he had unwittingly off or was he at a party with Lonsdale before Lonsdale was suspected. In fact lol became suspected as well by Peter right and others and part of the handling of this month. Let painter right to suspect Hollister head of MI5 who I've also mentioned in a previous episode. This is absolutely why I start to think that human intelligence. This kind of agency wage work is never a good news. It leads everybody to a state of febrile paranoia on both sides of the table MI5 who are trying to catch these moles becoming more paranoid than everybody else and start seeing moles everywhere and the whole thing every ten or twenty years degenerates into this kind of paranoid meltdown which in any other business wage Walk of Life would be seen as absolutely potty and it seems absolutely normal when it's upper-middle-class people with degrees talking about Marxism and I think this kind of amateurishness which wage went on in the security services certainly through the late eighties and the fall of the Berlin Wall was partly what the 1994 intelligence had was trying to address was trying to say look if this thing is so secret that nobody actually knows about it. How do we know we're doing the right thing in the right way in the most efficient way is costing hundreds of millions of pounds a year to run these agents and to catch the foreign agents and all we end up doing is offering a paid each other now again, that's a simplification. But sometimes you have to simplify in order to illustrate the point. So on we go Halt and starts to meet Lonsdale in London and hand over paperwork and so on and they train each other up of rather Lonsdale trends of Halton to take good photographs using spy cameras and other equipment and later on some of the briefcases that are dead. Stolen by MI5 apprehended by MI5 contain all this amazing 1960s spy equipment and I have to say that 1960s by equipment is way more exciting than modern technology because everything had its specific purpose. You wouldn't have a phone that could take pictures. You know that everybody had you know, there were Specialists cameras miniaturized cameras, which the mayor possession of such a device would cast suspicion on you. First of all, they were very expensive to make difficult to get hold of and why would any normal person have a spy camera because they take bad photos was now everybody's got a spy camera in the Palm this a thousand times better than what the KGB could make in the sixties. So the times have changed the technology has changed and I think there's something really romantic and exotic about this Old Town. She thinking about the umbrella on the bridge again, of course. So on we go the Watchers there were surveilled Horton was followed to a bench outside the Old Vic where he met Lonsdale and wage. When the MI5 guys followed Lonsdale after the meeting they realized he walked around in circles for a long time before going back to his car which had already previously passed in the street. This is spy trade craft. This is not something that you'll person would do. So the Finger of Suspicion went to Lonsdale as with all Spy operations, they didn't just arrest him because what they really wanted was to find out who he knew and what he was doing. He had a flat at the white box near Regent's Park flat 334. He had a bungalow in ruislip and this Bungalow in ruislip turns out to be pretty important not least to me because I used to live near here and I can imagine exactly where this Bungalow is. You can get the book if you want to know the exact address, but it's precisely positioned between ruislip station and ruislip Gardens at the end of a road and the the cul-de-sac leads into a footpath that's not wide enough for a car to go down. This means that you can approach or leave the cottage being sure that you're not being followed because obviously if you follow by pedestrian, you could spot them straight away and you certainly can log Live by a college town down a footpath even better. I said Gardens is across the road from North Pole to the RAF base, which is actually the base where Lonsdale was exfiltrated from when he was involved in a prisoner swap many years later. The location is fabulous. It was owned by two Russians. Again, they lied about their backgrounds and so on and pass themselves off as other people Russian book dealers Lonsdale lived with them for many months. And in fact MI5 lost wages of them in London and it took them a while to catch him in ruislip and after he had been arrested and jailed the people in the house were also arrested and jailed as well for helping him. And because Lonsdale was the prize assets. He was sprung out of jail bath KGB in a prisoner swap with gravel win, another famous spy, all the people that helped and worked with the Hortons the Russians in the Rye slip Bungalow stayed in jail for many more years and long sell only got 25 years. Whereas famously George Blake. I think it was forty-two. It was so long that Blake escaped was Lonsdale didn't even need to escape cuz he was sprung out by a prisoner swap. The whole thing is a who's home. Of spies and Spike catches Peter writes here Rodger. Holly says here. Lonsdale's here legs here Philip. He's here and really none of them suspected God and Lonsdale if it was off that polish tip-off and Hortons amateurism. He might never have been caught it's easy to say that if this hadn't happened then that would never have happened people say that all the time but Lonsdale was such a professional and he'd grown to like his lifestyle in the west as wheeler to find which is crucial for me. I think if you hate to the west and you hate capitalism and you hate all of that, it's easy to sneak loyal to Communism but having lived in America lived in Canada lived in Britain, he got a taste for the lifestyle and although he remained loyal to Russia until the end. When his Allegiance was tested to save a lease and he may have been have been killed in a poisoning which if you've heard minor Valley episode, he will realize it still going on Lonsdale retained his allegiance to Russia until the towards the end, but he did enjoy birth. Left and I think he might never have been caught wearing not for the tip-off right became paranoid started to suspect Rodger Hollis, everybody else. He suspected anybody who wasn't him basically and indeed by catch a book has largely been discredited but they eventually traced Lonsdale to ruislip. They investigated the owners of The Bungalow found a communist past and Lonsdale was caught and given 25 years. This is a great lunch time read it'll take you about an hour or 90 minutes. If you're a slow reader, it's virtually free. It's less than a pound on Amazon. It's a Kindle single Gordon Carrera from the BBC is the right tone. He's a very rational journalist. He's used all the usual sources that we took in archive Christopher Andrew and so on Nigel West a lot of this was already known but what I liked about this book is its shortness and the wage sticks the fats and really clearly describes a time and a place in Western European history. So that's got in Lonsdale not a sports bag, but a dead Russian boy who had his eyebrows. Stolen and used for Espionage Garden on stale died in suspicious circumstances after drinking vodka. He might have had a stroke his father died young equally. Well, he might have been poisoned so off on that bombshell I leave you for another week. We have lots coming up in the podcast. We have Donald MacLean. We have a few John le carre things lined up for you and I want to dig deeper into some of the locations on the same box as well. The original episodes were done in fifteen minute chunks to help you out. Keep it short one thing. I realized that the podcast allows is a walk a virtual walk where the locations are further apart. So Spies of the home counties might be coming soon to take in John the carriers childhood home under home. He lived in grammar sinden as a professional man working for MI5 and MI6 and of course the race live Bungalow lived by Golden Lamb style so that Spite of the home counties. I will also revisit some of the London spy walks as well. We have a very very full Autumn for you as the weather and the leaves turn off. Of London will return next week. home

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PodQuiz 739

PodQuiz

16:14 min | 1 year ago

PodQuiz 739

"Chris Sifni three nine. Hello. I'm okay to put quiz. Sieff nine hundred and thirty nine. Round one. It's an an you'll anthem's music ran this week. So you go to full pieces of music, and in each case of like artist and title. And then the answer to number five is the year in which they were all first released as singles. What did you want? Song. I wrote. Western too. Question. Three. Question. Four. What? Question five so we need to hear in which all of those sons were released it was the same year. That Ben Jonson cheated in the summer Olympics. Round two might the twenty fifth walls international towel day, which is a tribute to the author Douglas Adams so ran to it's on Douglas Adams. Question six in the Hitchhiker's guide to the gun occc. What is the name of authors friend, who claims to be an out of work active from Guilford but is, in fact, an alien journalist, whose chosen name is actually that of a car? Question seven what is the answer to the ultimate question of life, the universe, and everything? Is it zero one all forty two. Question age. According to the novel. The Hitchhiker's guts, the galaxy easing closed in a sturdy plastic case with which to words inscribed on it in large friendly lettuce. Question nine according to a series of Douglas atoms books who runs a holy stick detective agency. Question ten. On which planet does author. I encounter slutty part fast. Round three. Three east on literature Europe. Five short clips from audiobooks. And in each case, I'd like you to tell me the name of the author. Question. Eleven someone must have slanted. Joseph k for one morning without having done anything truly wrong, he was arrested his landlady frog rubel at a cook who brought him breakfast each day around eight, but this time she didn't appear that had never happened before K, waited awhile longer watching from his pillow. The old woman who lived across the way, who was peering at him with a curiosity, quite unusual question, twelve Mr. Phileas Fogg lived in eighteen seventy two at number seven Savile row. Burlington gardens the house in which Sheridan died in eighteen fourteen. He was one of the most noticeable members of the reform club that we seemed always to avoid attracting attention and epic medical personage about whom little was known except that he was a polished man of the world, people said that he resembled Byron. At least that his head was by Ron ick question thirteen you don't know about me. Without you have read a book by the name of the adventures of Tom Sawyer. But that ain't no matter that book was made by Mr. he told the truth mainly that was things which he stretched mainly. He told the truth that is nothing. I never seen anybody, but lied, one time or another without it was aunt Polly, or the widow or maybe Mary question fourteen in a village of LA Mancha, the name of which I have no desire to call to mind, their lived not long since one of those gentlemen, that keep a Lance in the Lance Rak, an old Buckler Aline hack and a greyhound for coursing an owner of rather more beef than mutton a solid on most nights scraps on Saturdays lentils, on Fridays into pigeon, or so extra on Sundays made away with three quarters of his income. Come question fifteen Wilkes doing in Canada. Wonder algae from the other side of the table. Biggles cloud, stop beginning to show stuff in my correspondence. Well, I happen to know we'll fits nominee will recognize a Canadian stamp when I see one tuned together, plied algae, casually walks ginger algae, you've finished his breakfast, sitting by the fire will captain Wilkins, fight commodity, one eight seven squadron, France algae. Round four and the fun, run this week, east potluck. Question sixteen. How many sites does a hip to gun have? Question. Seventeen which biff reg- did John Pemberton? Invent in eighteen eighty six. Coca Cola Dr Pepper or mountain Jew. Question eighteen what profession date? Nikolai Polyakov Joseph gremaldi, and Emmett Kelly Cher. Question nineteen which U S state is named after a king of fronts. Question. Twenty. The male of which type of bird is cooled. Eight cope. Ppac in three minutes after right collection with heart of gold jackets of lever. The answer. Don't worry be happy by Bobby mcferrin song. To sing for no? Two will. With medicine. The three was are in a flow by and yeah. And yeah. Full a little respect by racia-. And five. The year was nineteen eighty eight. Brown to. Tucson ductless atoms. And the answer to number six office friend, Hitchcock is got the collect sea is Ford. Prefect. From the answer to the ultimate question of life, theme, verse, and everything is forty two. The two words printed in the case of hitchhike has got the color. Don't panic. It was took gently who Ryan Listrik detective agency. The thing countless slutty fast on the planet. Macro thea. Round three from three was leaked Trent. And in each case, he unique just the author, though. I will tell you thoughtless as well was the trial by FRANZ kaffa. Number twelve force around the world in eighty days by tools. Thirteen was the adventures of Huckleberry Finn by twain or maybe Mary full scene was don't care T by Miguel? Disadvantage, Savitri, his income number fifteen Biggles flies. North was by w e. Rome, four. Fun rant was luck and the answer Tina sixteen to us seven sites. Seventeen Pemberton invented. Coca cola. Eighteen Nikolai polit- of choice, if CRA, melty and Keti clowns. Nineteen the US states named after king of France is Louisiana nine after Lewis footing. 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The Hitch Hikers Guide to the Galaxy_ EP1 P1

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The Hitch Hikers Guide to the Galaxy_ EP1 P1

"Thursday this is the story of The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy. Perhaps the most remarkable certainly the most successful book ever to come out of the great publishing corporation's of Ursa Minor more popular than Thursday. Let's deal with Home Care Omnibus better selling than fifty three more things to do in zero gravity and more controversial than oolon caliphates Trilogy of philosophical Blockbusters where God went wrong some more of God's greatest mistakes and just who is this God person anyway, and in many of the more relaxed civilizations on the outer Eastern rim of the Galaxy The Hitchhiker's Guide has awoke supplanted the great encyclopedia Galactica as the standard repository of all knowledge and wisdom because although it has many emissions contains much that is apocryphal over at least wildly inaccurate. It's called the older more pedestrian work in two important ways first, you just slightly cheaper and second. It has the words don't panic inscribed in large friendly letters long. Recover tell the story of the book. It's best to tell the story of some of the minds behind it human from the planet Earth was one of them. There was our story opens. He no more knows he is Justin Bieber the TV nursing history of the East India Company. His name is Arthur Dent. He was a five foot eight defendant and someone is trying to build a bypass through his home. Come off at Mister Dent. You can't win, you know, there's no point lying down in the path of programs. I've gone off the idea of progress. It's overrated. But surely even you must realize that you can't lie down in front of my bulldozers indefinitely. I gained will see who rusts first. I'm afraid you're going to have to accept it, you know, this bypass has got to be built and it is going to be built nothing you can say or do why has it got to be built? What do you mean? Why is it got to be a build? It's a bypass it. You've got to build bypasses. Didn't anyone consider the Alternatives off. There aren't any alternatives woke you are quite entitled to make any suggestions or protests at the appropriate time appropriate time. The first I heard about this was one of work my ass up at the house yesterday. I thought he'd come to clean the windows. He told me he'd come to demolish the house. You didn't tell me straight away across know especially white a couple of Windows and charge Me a Tenor any told me but Mister dead the crimes have been available in the planning office for the last nine months. Oh, yes, and it seems like if I went down a new Wolf Center to see them on exactly gone out of your way to call much attention to you and hug you I mean like actually telling anybody or anything but plans were on display and how many average members of the pub in the habit of usually dropping around at the local planning office of an evening. It's not exactly a noted social venue is it and even if you had popped in on the off chance that some raving bureaucrat wanted a knock your house down the plans were off immediately obvious to the eye where they love depends where you were looking I eventually had to go down to the cellar. That's the display Department with a torch. Oh, yes, the rights would probably gone down the stairs, but you found the notice didn't you? Yes, it was on display in the bottom of a locked filing cabinet stuck in a disused lavatory for the sign on the door saying Beware of the leopard dog. Going into advertising it's not as if it's a particularly nice house. Anyway, I'm rather to like it mister Dent. Hello. Yes. Have you any idea how much damage this bill does it would suck if I were to graduate just roll straight over you how much not at all. By strange coincidence none at all is exactly how much suspicion the ape descended Arthur Dent had that one of his closest friends was not descended from an egg that was in fact for a small planet somewhere in the vicinity of Betelgeuse of the dentist a little suspect this reflects the care with which his best friend and Blended himself into Human Society after a fairly shaky start when he arrives on Earth fifteen years ago the minimum research. He had done suggested to him that the name Ford prefect would be nicely inconspicuous. He will enter our store in 30 seconds and say hello Arthur Tulsa the 8th descendants will greet him in return following Hi, how are you? But in deference to a million years of human evolution, he will not attempt to pick fleas off her husband are not proud of their sisters and never invite them relative dinner. Hello, Massa food Hi, how are you? Yeah, I'm fine. Am looke you busy. I just got this bulldozer line front door has a lot my house down otherwise, no not especially let's go down to the pub way. We can drink and have a talk resident waiting. Look thought you want to stand that man wants to knock my house that we can do that while she'll wake on T, but I don't want him to huh. Oh dear. Oh, what is the matter? Nothing? Nothing's the matter. Also Now you listen to me. I've got to tell you the most important thing I've ever heard and I've got to tell you now. I've got to tell you in the yellow wagon, but why because you're going to need a very stiff drink now we have to go no, wait, what about my house off? He wants to know your house now. Yes, and he can't because you're lying in the way of his bulldozers. That's it. I think we can come to some arrangement. Hello. Hello mister. Don't come to his senses yet. Can we for them to say that he handled? Well, can we also assume that he's going to be lying there all day. So so all your men are going to be standing around here all day doing nothing could be either your assigned to doing that. Anyway, you don't actually need him to lie down from two. That's all those are all the time. Do you? Well, no, not exactly need or such right? So if you could just take it as read which was actually there than here and I can lick off down the Play-Off. Now, how does that sound? It sounds perfectly reasonable. I suppose if you want to pop up for a quick one yourself later on where you can always cover for you in return. Yes, Thanks very much. I suppose we don't actually need him there for the whole time. Excellent. So if you just like to come over here and lie down what? Oh, yes. It's very simple. My client Mister Dan says, he was stopped lying here in Georgia. On the so conditioned you take over from it. What are you talking about? Sorry, you want me to come and ride down there? Yes in front of the bulldozer. Yes votes instead of Mister Dent. Yes in the mode as you say the mode in return for which you will take Mister Dent with you down to the pub. Yes, promise god promise coming down. Oh and no sneakingly knocking Mr. Dan's house down while he's away. All right, what the slightest. How do they even begun to speculate about the mirrors possibility of crossing my mind off think we can trust him myself regressing to the end of the Earth is but half of that that's 32 minutes away. Come on. I need a drink address to go to the parts off by drink Ford. Recommend alcohol the encyclopedia Galactica describes alcohol as in dog voluntarily quit formed by the 7th, Asian of sugars and also notes. It's intoxicating effects on certain carbon-based life-forms The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy also mentions alcoholic. It says that the best drink in existence is the Galactic Gargle Blaster the effect of which is like having your brain, especially out with a slice of lemon wrapped around a large golden brick home. The guide also tells you on which planets the best Pan Galactic Gargle Blasters are mixed. I want you can expect to pay for one and what voluntary organizations exist to help you rehabilitate the man who suggested this mind-boggling drink also invented the wisest remark ever made, which was this never drink more than two Pan Galactic Gargle Blaster unless you were a 30 ton Mega elephant with bronchial pneumonia. His name is a pain beeblebrox, and we shall burn more of his wisdom. Later.

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GSMC Movie Podcast Episode 135: Movies I Watch With My Dad

GSMC Movie Podcast

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GSMC Movie Podcast Episode 135: Movies I Watch With My Dad

"From a birdwatching nurse to a line dancing firefighter. Nobody's just one thing. That's why polar pop and frost, her aren't either choose from all kinds of flavors and make your mix polar pop and foster just seventy nine cents each at circle k limited time only at participating locations Joop decided torn between a romantic comedy action or an indie film to watch for the weekend. Well, well, well, Golden State media concepts. Movie podcast is your ultimate guide to them latest movies. Join us as we dissect the latest on the blockbusters. It's the Golden State media concepts movie podcast. Hello. And welcome to the G. S M C movie podcast, brought to the NC podcast network. I am your host Sarah, and I am happy to be with you for another episode of this podcast today. We are not talking about movies that are currently in the theater today. Since Sunday is Father's Day. I thought I would talk about movies that I watch with my dad, as you can see from the title of this episode pretty self descriptive descriptive, I would say, my family is a movie watching family. We love to watch movies more than once we love to watch movies way, more than once often when we love them, not my mom so much. My mom is the type that neither likes to watch movies more than once, nor read books, more than once the rest of us have broken away from her crazy way of thinking. We. Love to reread and rewatch and do all of those things. So my dad and I have always watched movies together, whenever I go home will sit down and watch a movie together. Usually one that we've seen a million times before, but doesn't matter my siblings. And I speak in movie quotes, often a when my when my sister was in college, the that's in the old days before the internet, we actually wrote letters to one another and throughout the letters. We would just like randomly throw in. Whether either in the actual paragraph or in the margins we'd throw in movie quotes, and my brother, and I can have entire text conversations that are just movie cokes because we are dorks. So. Since Sunday is Father's Day thought I would talk about some of the, the movies that my dad and I like to watch together over and over again. When we have the chance as a side note. My I think I've mentioned before that my parents, and my brother owned the movie theater in my hometown. My hometown is a tiny little town in western Montana. Only about a thousand people. They have a tiny little movie theater that only plays one movie a weekend Friday, Saturday, and Sunday, if it's a PG movie or G movie, they will have a matinee on Sunday afternoon. So you'll get four showings in a weekend, but normally three three showings in a weekend just one movie. So. You know, it's it sounds quaint in it is, but it's also really worth it. If you are, if you are in town, you should go the movie because you will never find you. If you live anywhere else in the world you're used to spending a very large amount. Every time you go to the movie, especially on concessions. Go to my parents, movie theater, you will. You'll be blown away by hell though. The prices are it's awesome. At any rate, let me just say it's five dollars for adult in four dollars for kids under twelve twelve and under and large buttered popcorn. Two twenty five. I can't they prices did go up to twenty five to fifty something like that. Yeah. For a large buttered? Crazy talk at any rate movies that I watched my dad, we where to start just the movies that we that we love to watch one that came out when I was in, I don't even know junior high high school. I should look at the year but that movie is willow. It stars Val Kilmer who you may know from top gun, he hasn't done much lately. He was one of the batmans batmans Batman. He's done at the Hanna Batman movie as well as Warwick Davis who has been in many of the Star Wars movies and the Harry Potter movies. He played grip hook the goblin as well as professor Flitwick. He is the character of willow after home. The movie is, named as I said, this movie is high fantasy. It is action adventure. It did come out in nineteen eighty eight. I looked it up. So I was in junior high at least was remembering. That correctly. Let's see. Eight is here's the description. It's directed by Ron Howard music composed by James Horner into the world of willow journey to the far corners of your majesty Shen to a land of myth and magic where dream and reality live side by side to a place that never existed, a time that never was the world where a young man named willow lives out an adventure that it explodes beyond the boundaries of his own hopes and fears I should also mention that it is not only directed by Ron Howard, but it was produced by and the story was conceived by George Lucas. So he actually came up with the story in the seventies, but then the movie was not made until nineteen eighty eight at any rate willow is a farmer, and he's a farmer, but what he really wants to be is a, he, he wants to be the high high wizard's apprentice. And so that go he. Wants to do. Magic. He is in the woods with his family. One day when they find a baby who is been floating on the river. It turns out, she's a very special baby, who has is being hunted because she is a child of prophecy, who is faded to bring down the current evil leader of the world. He will. Oh and his family fall in love with the baby. But they know they can't keep her. They take her to the town elders who decide that. She needs to be taken elsewhere that they're worried that her being in the village will bring it doom and destruction down upon them. So willow sets off on this adventure. He tries his does his best. He meets a lot of very interesting characters long way, Val Kilmer being one of them. He is. Morally ambiguous at the best of times, but he's also a night and he helps willow. There's action adventures. There's little tiny itty bitty people called brownies there. Of sorceress, who is not human. She supposed to be human, but she's been banished and she goes through many interesting changes, there's an epic battle lots of crazy creatures. This was in the days before a lot of CGI, so the special effects can be a little funky but. The there's a little there's some there's moments in terms of the epic battle in the magic, but as, as often happens in these stories, you've got a somewhat reluctant hero, surrounded by characters who have various levels of helpfulness and willingness to help various levels of talent. But they are, and they are facing what's seems to be an impossible task. But of course, everything everything comes out, okay? In the end tie fantasy. There's a little bit of a little bit of romance in there's a lot of humor. There's some darkness, and it's just it might not be the fantasy movie for everyone. But we loved it. And my dad will what that movie at least once a year, at least I haven't seen it it's been a while. Clearly I need to go home and watch this movie with my father, what else another high fan. Masih movie. That is maybe a little better known than willow. It's become kind of a coke classic. And that is the Princess bride. Love the Princess bride. Another really good one for quotes. My family can, quote, pretty much never watched the Princess bride with anyone in my family, because we will quote the entire movie while we watch it. My husband was almost disowned by my family because he does not like the Princess bride. I know. And I married him anyway. What was I thinking? It's not his Cup of tea, even though it has Andre the giant in it. And he was a huge WWE fan growing up and loved Andre the giant, even then he, he just it's not his Cup of tea, as I said. But my family loves it. We. Watch it all the time. In fact, I need to do another rewatch of it starts out with a very young Fred savage, who is sick in bed, and he is playing. A video game that will make you laugh if because of again it's graphics. This is a movie from the eighties. Again. Remember, we're not talking about anything current young, Fred savage is sick. His grandfather comes to read him a story, he is played by the man who played Colombo. I know he has a name, but I always think of him as the man who played Columba his name is, Peter Falk. Anyway, he plays Fred Savage's grandfather, and he comes to visit his sick, grandson and says, he's going to read him a book called the Princess bride. The kid is not impressed. He's like, whatever I'll try to stay awake. But of course, get sucked in. And as he re as his grandfather reads, than we get to watch the movie play out or the story play out in the form of a movie, a few details about the movie, I guess it came out in nineteen eighty seven. It was originally, a book that book was written by William Goldman. He also wrote these screenplay it was directed by rob Reiner, and it has has a really amazing cast so carry Elway's Mandy patinkin, Chris serandon. Christopher guest Wallace Shawn. Andre the giant, as I mentioned, Fred savage. Robin Wright, Peter Falk, Peter Cook Mel. Smith. Carol Kane Billy crystal. It's just got an amazing cast, and so many quotable lines. So starts out with the love story of Wesley and buttercup Wesley is a farm. Boy, he works for buttercup. They fall in love, but he wants to pursue his fortune. So he goes off to try to make something of himself and his ship is attacked by the dread. Pirate Roberts who never take survivors, so buttercup is distraught. Because her one true. Love is now dead fast forward a little bit, and Princess butter. She's now known as Princess buttercup. She has been chosen by the prince played by Chris Sarandon prince Humperdinck, by the way, is his name. To be his, his Princess, but he mostly just wants her. You know, he's not really in love with her or anything. He wants to he has kidnapped by the country cross the sea in order to start a civil war. His life as he says, is he swamped he has his country's five hundred anniversary to plan his wife to murder and Gillard a fine port. So he really just doesn't have a lot on a lot of time on his hands. He's, he's got all these things to do. Anyway, he has Mandy patinkin Wallace Shawn. And under the giants characters kidnap her and. There's, there's supposed to kidnap her and take her make in. They're supposed to be starting this war. Oh my gosh. It just goes from there. It sounds, it sounds so dumb when he tried to, anytime you try to explain a movie like this. It always sounds so silly dumb, but it is whole areas, so many quotable lines again. No CGI. So the rodents of unusual size or are US's are actually people in giant rat, suits. It's not as bad as, as you might think, but it's also not as good as CGI maybe could've made. My if I want to do if I want to engage, my brother in text conversation. I mean I could send him a text. How are you? What are you doing? Our my nieces, those sorts of things. But if I really want him to reply. I'll have to do is send him a text. That has a line from the Princess bride, for instance. You're in the pit of despair or. Anything? The Billy crystal says. It's hilarious. If you haven't seen it, why have you not seen it, you need to have an eighties themed movie marathon and start with the Princess bride move onto willow? They're both fantasy. But they are both very different. And if got lots of quotable lines in them, if that's your things, we are beyond time to take our first break of podcast, stay tuned. You're listening to the MC movie podcast and I'll be right back. From a bird-watching nurse to a line dancing firefighter. Nobody's just one thing. That's why polar pop and frost aren't either choose from all kinds of flavors and make your mix polar pop in foster just seventy nine cents each at circle k limited time only at participating locations from a bird, watching, nurse to a line dancing firefighter. Nobody's just one thing. That's why polar pop and frostier aren't either choose from all kinds of flavors and make your mix polar pop in foster just seventy nine cents each at circle k limited time only at participating locations. The latest and hot has music, hidden the airwaves, don't be left out. Listen to the Golden State media concepts music podcast key, keeps you on with everything you need to from hip top flooring, and we'll throw in news of your favorite artist concert, and tour dates, and so much more. Listen, no further. Because this is the gold standard in using cats. Welcome back to the GMC movie podcast seeking about movies that I watched with my dad on a regular basis, not lately, because I haven't been home nearly as much as I would like to. But my dad's still watches each of these movies at least once a year loves them. He's not as much of the movie quarter as we are. But he knows what we're talking about. Because he loves to watch them and he still laughs. And just I love my dad, he such as we heard. So the next movie that we often watch, and he, he this one he does quote, there's a couple of lines from this movie that he does quote, and that is adventures in babysitting not the remake that they just did on the Disney channel of few years ago. But the original, this is the story of let's see how to describe it. The main character has a date with her boyfriend that she is convinced she is in love with. She is, is the movie starts with her getting ready. She is singing along lip synching along to a story or a song about love and marriage, and she's very excited because it's their anniversary date and she runs downstairs when he comes to the door. He's played bright Bradley Whitford from west wing very young Bradley Whitford. And he says he can't he can't go on the date because his sister is sick. And he has to stay home and take care of her. So she's very sad, of course, but she understands because she's a good girlfriend, and then her mom says that she since she's not doing anything else. She means well babysit. Which she says, she's too old to do this very quirky family, the daughter of whom loves the war at a time when marvel movies were not everywhere like they are. She wears a Thor helmet, you know, with the wings and her older brother, who is a teenager who's fifteen probably fourteen fifteen and who is so very in love with Chris who is played by Elizabeth shoe, and who is coming to babysit. His little sister. He's supposed to be having a sleepover at his best friend's house. But of course, he changes that plan because he wants to pass in the glory that is his crush on. Chris, as you can imagine since his call adventures in babysitting, things do not go to plan. They have they end up driving into Chicago to rescue Chris's friend who has run away, and then changes her mind and has no money needs to be picked up at the bus station. They of course, are not supposed to do this, all sorts of crazy zany nece in sues as. Has all is it only can in a movie like this? They are chased by car thieves that will their their their car breaks down. They have a flat on the freeway. They the are involved in a shootout there, chased by car thieves, there is a whole story about a playboy centerfold that looks just like Chris keeps coming up. They are. Yeah, they they're involved in a gang fight on the subway. They have to hospital for stitches will one stitch. And then this is where you get some of the quotable lines as they are running away. They end up in a club where this, and somehow end up onstage with the group that is performing and are told that not leaves without a singing the blues. This is my this is the line that my father will, quote the one movie line in all of movies that my father will quote on a regular basis. Nobody leaves place about singing the blues and so they do. Of course, Larry adorable. And all of those good things that happen in silly, movies like this. Craziness. Zanies enthuse. Everything works out in the end. But it is, you know, it's close to cut it close, and everyone learns some valuable lessons, and they move on from there. But it's a very cute movie. A little dated, of course because it is from the eighties. What year did this one? Come out. Let's see, we've had eighty eight for willow eighty seven four Princess bride. And this one again. Also, eighty seven good year for movies who else is in this movie. Elizabeth Shue is the main character, Chris Maya Brewster, Keith Coogan, plays Brad who is in love with Chris. Anthony Sarah is my Bruton wonder she was little, then she's not little anymore. Anthony Rapp plays Darryl who is Brad's best friend and ends up going on the adventure with them. I forgot Vincent, inau frozen this movie. Oh, that's hilarious Penelope. Miller plays the best friend, Bradley Whitford as I said, Anthony Rapp now is in the, the new Star Trek Star Trek discovery. He plays the doctor on that. So it's every time my husband watches that show. All I can think of is that he is terrible from. He is. He's Daryl from adventures in babysitting, and I think give Sarah, who says. Yeah, get in the car and run him over. Bratty little sister as only a bratty, little sister can be, and as bratty little sister. I can say this with authority, George. Newborn is also in it as a college age, boy, who comes in later in the story. So. I don't know what else to say. But it's it's, it's good times, and of course the boyfriend they discover the boyfriend having dinner with someone else. And there's a good scene there with the confrontation of that. So kind of one of his shoes early movies. And then she, of course, moved on to other things, as of course, happens. It's a good movie. You should check it out at that added to your eighties year list of eighties marathon movies other, eight movies that my dad will watch over and over the original Ghostbusters, not so much the second one. I don't think he watches that one on our yearly basis. But the original Ghostbusters, yes. Definitely. Again. More eighties movies. He will also watch blues brothers and this when he will watch the sequel to the second blues brother's, which does not have John Belushi in it. Of course because John Belushi has had died by that point. Is he is replaced by John Goodman? But my dad watches both of them loves both of them. He likes original better. The original has some great music. If you haven't seen it, it has some great music it stars, as I said, John Belushi, Dan Aykroyd, and then it has cameos by a wreath a Franklin Cab Calloway. Shuck Akon, James Brown. Oh. So many cameos the music is amazing and other cameos by people who aren't necessarily singers, Carrie Fisher is in this movie. It's weather her earlier movies into Larry's, so. John candy is in it. Oh man. It's just amazing. Even Paul Reubens. In briefly peewee Herman. Twiggy if you have any idea who Twiggy Twiggy is in this movie just amazing, the number of people who are in this end the Ray Charles in it. I could just keep going anyway. So the blues brothers, Dan Aykroyd. And John Belushi created the. Debut, these characters on Saturday Night Live, then it became movies, so Jumba. She's character at the beginning gets out of jail out of Joliet. He is Juliet. Take his brother is Elwood. Their last name is blues. They were raised in an orphanage, and they go to visit the Sister, Mary stigmata. Of course that's her name going to visit her, when Juliet, Jake gets out. He does not want to go, but his brother makes him and she says that they at the orphanage is going to close if they can't make a payment. So the rest of the movie is those brothers, trying to get the band back together to raise enough money to pay for the to pay the debt that this orphanage owes so that the children will not then be orphaned and homeless. He just so much craziness. I mean I know I said that in terms of adventures in babysitting, so much craziness, kind of the same kind of the same idea what the caper kind of caper movie, lots of ridiculous things happen that, you know, of course, would not happen in real life in theory. So many so many quotable one liners, please add all of these movies to your eighties. Movie marathon, watching list, you will not regret it. Maybe you will regret it. But I don't think you will Steven Spielberg's even in this movie I'd forgotten that as well. Because of course, everyone is much much younger because this one. Did not come out in the did not come out in nineteen eighty seven. This is earlier than the rest of them this one came out in nineteen eighty. So still in the eighties. The second one as I said, John Belushi has had died at the point. So John Goodman is in it. But again, a ton of cameos, some really great movie, some really great music as good, but my dad loves the music. So he will continue to watch that once a year and. Still loves it as much as the original maybe not as much as original. But it's still right up there for my dad. Can I like the us in the second one, but I, I don't really feel the need to watch it quite as much as my dad does, we're gonna take our second break of the podcast. And when we come back, we'll be wrapping up this episode of movies that I watched with my dad's, so stay tuned. You're listening to the GMC movie podcast and I'll be right back. Charlie loves cherry. 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And here this out, there's a podcast network that covers just about everything that you've been searching, the Golden State media concepts podcast network is hair nothing less than podcast bliss with endless hours of podcast covered from news, sports, music, fashion, looking entertainment, fantasy football and so much more. So stop lurking around and go straight out to the Golden State media concepts pie gas network, guaranteed to fill the podcast. Whatever it may be. Visit us at WWW dot GS. Mc podcast dot com. Follow us on Facebook and Twitter and download us on itunes soundcloud, and Google play. Welcome back to the GMC movie podcast episode of movies that I watched with my dad and the next one is one, that's maybe not quite so well known. But my dad loves it. We moved out of the eighties this one is nineteen ninety it is a movie cold quickly, don't under starring. Tom Selleck as Matthew Quigley, who is an American sharpshooter. He's hired by Alan Rickman DHS character who's in Australian rancher to go to Australia and do a job. He in the job is, you know, pays really, really well, but when quickly gets there, he is not willing to do the job that he has been hired to do, which is basically to kill aboriginals talk about the horrifying racism present in this movie, but could lease a good guy. He is, as I said he refuses to do the job. He then becomes Alan Rickman. Character tries to have him killed for fusing but quickly escapes, he escapes with a crazy Cora, who is a prostitute who he quickly rescues her from some of the ranters men, and then they go on this quest. Crazy Corre is played by Laura Sanjay coamo as I said, the, the rancher Ellen Elliot Marston is played by Ellen Rickman. Matthew quickly played by Tom Selleck, this movie came out in nineteen ninety let's see director, Simon Windsor writer, John hill. And this is the movie that has given my family's line. We don't don't know where we're going, but there's no sense in being late. It's a very strange movie, but it's got some beautiful scenery. It's got some great one liners. It's darkly funny and everything kind of works out in the end. There's a lot of violence. This is not your light-hearted romp or caper movie like we have been talking about the it's, it's definitely a darker movie, and I, so I would not say, hey add this to your eighties movie marathon, because it came out in nineteen ninety because it's not quite of the same ilk, as the other movies that we've been talking about, but my father loves this movie possibly, because he loves westerns always has he loves Tom Selleck always had since magnum PI and just. It's. It's a really interesting storyline. It addresses a lot of different issues. And I you know, I assume that, you know, this isn't a modern movie, I mean, yes, it was filmed in nineteen ninety, but it does not take place in any kind of modern times. I'm not seeing nothing specific year. But it's you know it's a period piece we've got Cowboys. We've got not quite hoop skirts but you understand the you understand at any rate. So. Definitely check it out. Especially like Tom Selleck, especially if you like westerns. Go into it knowing that it's not a lighthearted comedy though. There are some things that maybe we'll make you go. Wait, what this is crazy. But it it's again one of my dad's favorites. I love it. I haven't seen in years. I can't even remember the last time I watched this movie and yet still quoting it. Don't are going, but there's no sense in being late that along with many other lines that we say, so finally, we will wrap up this episode with another movie that is, again, not from the eighties. But my dad loves it, and watches it, at least once a year if not more, and it also has Alan Rickman, so you cannot go wrong there, and that is the Hitchhiker's guide to the galaxy. If you have not seen as movie or read the books, you should the, the books, I listened to the books on audio book, and they are narrated by Stephen Fry who is amazing. So if a if you haven't read the books, you should in of I of course, like the book better than the books better than the movie, but the movie is hilarious. This again is not from the eighties. This one is two thousand five so we have really moved forward in time. It is based on the book by the same name this. There's it's a series of books mere seconds before the earth is to be demolished by alien construction crew journeyman Arthur dent is swept off the planet by his friend afford. Perfect prefect Ford. Prefect a researcher, pending a new edition of hitchhikers guide to the galaxy which doesn't tell you much the guy who is in the hobbit movies is this is in this one L here again. We have more more Tian's Warwick Davis is also in this movie. Zoe Dutch Dacian is an it Martin Freeman. That is Arthur dent. That's when I was trying to think of Stephen Fry is the narrator, so that has some good some good symmetry with him being the. Being the narrator of the audiobook. Ella, as I said, Eleanor C'mon is in it, he plays a very depressed. He plays the voice very depressed robot, and he doesn't very, very well. A depressed robot shouldn't be hilarious. But it is take my word for it. This movie is ridiculous. There are so many silly things in it. I don't even know where to begin and so I'm not going to try. I'm just going to say that it's funny it is. Unexpected in a lot of ways it falls under a lot of different categories comedy science fiction. It's got some it's got some really good dry, British humor. If that's your thing, which I tend to love, and it's, you know, just on my list of might my list of debt movies that I watched my dad movies that my dad loves sill. On that note, we are going to wrap up this episode of the GMC movie podcast. Hopefully give give you some some movie marathon ideas, maybe you've seen them home AB, you don't wanna watch them again. But if you're anything like my dad wanna watch them, at least once if not multiple times. So thank you for joining me. And join me again, next time I will be reviewing a new movie from net flicks. So tune in to find out what that movie is, and what I thought about it. In the meantime, have a wonderful Father's Day and a great week. Thanks. Listen to the Golden State media concepts movie. Bud cast part of the Golden State media concepts podcast network. You can find this show and others, like it at WWW dot Jesus MCP, podcast dot com. Download our podcast on itunes. Stitcher sound clock and Google play. This type in Jesus MC to find all the shows from the Golden State media concepts podcast network from movies to music, throw sports, entertainment, and even we are us. You can also follow us on Twitter and on Facebook. Thank you. 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Seth Andrews Reads Your Favorite Selections: PART ONE

The Thinking Atheist

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Seth Andrews Reads Your Favorite Selections: PART ONE

"We are thinking atheist. It's not a person. Symbol an idea. The population of this country is going through the rule rejecting faith filling knowledge challenging the sacred. If I told the truth it's because I tell the truth because I put my hand on a Bulkin. Mehta wish and working together for more rush world thinking much more happiness fusion will come to you that way zoom nothing everything and start thinking. This is the thinking atheist podcast hosted by South Andrews just to help pass the time as we are quarantined wherein self-isolation. I've had some people ask me to read selections from some of their favorite stuff so today's broadcast is about religion. Atheism any of that stuff. It's just a distraction. Something you can put on in the background. We did this as a live stream on youtube. But here's the podcast audio version for you. This broadcast include some readings from Dr Seuss. A Little Douglas Adams going on from hitchhiker's guide and others and then a long form reading of a story by Harlan. Ellison it's called Jesse is five. Thanks for listening. We're all in this together. We're all going to get through this together. And I hope you enjoy the show. Congratulations today is your day off degrade places you're often away. You have brains in your head. You have feet in your shoes. You can steer yourself any direction you choose your on your own and you know what you know and you are the guy who will decide where to go. You'll look up and down. Streets look over with care and some you will say. I don't choose to go there with your head full of brains and your shoes full of feet. You're too smart to go down in a not so good street and you may not find any. You'll want to go down in that case. Of course you'll head straight out of town. It's opener there in the wide. Open air out there. Things can happen infrequently due to people as brainy and footsie as you and then things start to happen. Don't worry don't Stu just go right along. You'll start happening to. What is it about Dr Seuss that transcends the ages I could brings out the child and signed all of us? Randolf said read something from the Hitchhiker's guide to the Galaxy. Find my thumbnail. I'm going to butcher this. I'm not great at reading this style or your approval. Here's what the Encyclopedia Galactica has to say about alcohol. It says that alcohol is a colorless volatile liquid formed by the fermentation of sugars and also notes. It's intoxicating effect on certain carbon based lifeforms. The hitchhiker's guide to the galaxy also mentioned alcohol. It says that the best drink in existence is the Pan Galactic Gargle blaster. It says that the effect of Drinking Pan Galactic Gargle blaster is like having your brain smashed out by a slice of lemon wrapped around a large gold brick. The Guide also tells you on which planets the best Pan Galactic Gargle blasters are mixed how much you can expect to pay for one. And what voluntary organizations exist to help you rehabilitate afterward. The Guide even tells you how you can mix one yourself. Take the Jews from one bottle of the old JANK's spirit it says. Pour it into one measure of water from the sees of Centra Guinness Five. Oh that Centra Guinean seawater it says. Oh those sand. Tragedy and fish allow three cubes of Archer in Mega Gin to melt into the mixture. It must be properly iced or the benzine is lost. Allow four leaders of Foudy and marsh gas to bubble through it in memory of all those happy hikers who've died of pleasure in the marshes of Phalia over the backup is silver spoon. Flow to measure of collecting hyper men to extract redolent of all the. Hetty odor's in the dark zones subtle sweet and mystic drop in the tooth of Golden Sun Tiger Watch it dissolves spreading the fires of the Al Golden Suns deep into the heart of the drink. Sprinkle ZAM for at an olive drink but very carefully the hitchhiker's guide to the galaxy cells rather better than the encyclopedia. Galactica six pints of bitter said Ford Prefect to the Bar Man of the Horse and groom and quickly please the world's about to end the Barman of the Horse and groom didn't deserve this sort of treatment. He was a dignified old man. He pushed his glasses up his nose. And blinked Ford Prefect. Ford ignored him in stared out the window. So the Barman looked instead at Arthur who shrugged helplessly and said nothing. So the Barman said. Oh Yes sir. Nice weather for. It then started pulling pints. He tried again going to watch the match this afternoon. Then Ford glanced round at him. No no point. He said and looked back out the window. What's that foregone conclusion? Then you reconsider said the Barman Arsenal without a chance. No said Ford. It's just that the world's about to end. Oh Yes sir. So you said said the Barman looking over his glasses. This time at Arthur lucky escape for Arsenal if it did Ford look back at him genuinely surprised no not really. He said he frowned. The Barman breathed in heavily. There you are sir six pints. He said Arthur smiled at him me and shrugged again. He turned and smiled. Wan-li at the rest of the pub just in case any of them at heard what was going on none of them had and none of them could understand what he was smiling at them for a man sitting next to Ford at the bar looked at the two men looked at the six pints did a swift burst of Mental Arithmetic. Arrived at an answer. He liked ten grand stupid hopeful grin at them get off said Ford their hours giving him a look that would have made an al Golden Sun Tiger. Get on with what he was doing. Ford slapped a five pound note on the Bar. He said keep the change. What from fiber. Thank you sir. You've got ten minutes left to spend the Barman simply decided to walk away for a bit. Ford said Arthur. Would you please tell me what the hell is going on during COPS said Ford? You've got three pints to get through three pints at Arthur at lunchtime the man next Ford grinned and nodded heavily. Ford ignored him. He said time is an illusion. Lunchtime W very deep said Arthur. You should send that into Reader's Digest. They've got a page for people like you drink up. Why Three Pints. All of a sudden muscle relaxant. You'll need it muscle relaxant muscle relaxant. Arthur stared into his beer. Did I do anything wrong today? He said nor has the world always been like this. I've been too wrapped up in myself. Notice all right said for. I'll try to explain. How long have we known each other? How Long Arthur thought about five years? Maybe six he said most of it seemed to make some kind of sense at the time. All Right said Ford. How would you react if I said that? I'm not from Guildford after all but from a small planet somewhere in the vicinity of beetle juice. Arthur shrugged a SO-SO SORT OF WAY. I don't know he said taking pull a beer. Why do you think it's the sort of thing you're likely to say Ford gave up? It really wasn't worth bothering at the moment. What would the world being about to wear? And he just said drink up. He added perfectly factually. The world's about to end Arthur gave the rest of the POB. Another wan smile the rest of the pub frown datum. A man waved at him to stop smiling at them in mind his own business. This must be Thursday said Arthur to south sinking low over his beer. I never could get the hang of Thursdays. Douglas Adams was such a great writer. Always painted these. Amazingly Quirky scenarios. That caused your imagination. Go Wild Somebody wanted me to read some more atoms restaurant at the end of the universe. Let me pull up that link and find out which chapter we're GonNa draw from today. Aye Computers Taking. Its time likely. Because the world's about to end by the way forgive any mispronunciations. I'm guilty of these. This happens a lot to readers I heard Garrison Keeler talk about this once. You read a word all the time a lot of times though you're like how do you pronounce that especially when we get into you know foreign languages? There were some specific phrases. I know I'll screw up. Let's see Oh yeah here it is. This is chapter twenty eight. It's very short the restaurant at the end of the universe. The major problem one of the major problems for there are several one of the many major problems with governing people. Is that of whom you'll get to do it or rather of who manages to get people to let them to do to them to summarize it's a well known fact that those people who most wanted to rule people are ipso facto the least suited to do it to summarize the summary anyone who is capable of getting themselves made president should on no account be allowed to do the job to summarize the summary of the summary. People are a problem and so this is the situation. We find a succession of Galactic Presidents. Who so much enjoy the fun and Palaver of being in power that they very rarely notice that they're not and somewhere in the shadows behind them who who can possibly rule if no one who wants them to do it can be allowed to. I sense this was suggested as commentary on our current situation. I will let you. We'll let you decide. Let me take a real short break. Because I'm going to come back and read uninterrupted one story that's going to constitute the entire rest of the broadcast so I don't want to hit the brakes mid story. I WanNa make sure we can stay in that world so let me take a break. I'll be right back as I read. More of your favorite selections and we connect in any way we can during this sort of wild and weird time in the world hang on In the wake of Kobe nine thousand nine hundred and the fact that everybody's or most people are socially distance perhaps even quarantines looking for something else to do some connection something to listen to. This is a series of selections. Think of it as a short form audio book that just comes freely into your podcast inbox and I hope it helps to break up the monotony for you. Harlan Ellison a brilliant brilliant sci fi writer and he knew it. I think Harlan passed away. Nuit I mean arrogant arrogant demand. But you know he could back it up. I usually think of Star Trek when I think of Harlan Ellison. The city on the edge of her ever was an episode that he had pinned for star trek the original series and It was by the way he had written it. Far Too. Grand and expand yet thousands of extras. And you know sats that had to be a cheap ass television series but he wrote the episode and it was just an award. Actually it became an award winning script. It was submitted in its original form and he won an award for it but he submitted to gene roddenberry and the producers of Classic Star Trek the original series. And they're like this is unsuitable. We can't afford this. We can't do this logistically. It's impossible and Harlan. Ellison was just aghast. He just hated television. And the reduction of television of his literary work and probably literary works in general the idea that you have to make it cheap and concise and get it out there and forty eight minutes or whatever timeframe was and he was pissed he was pissed but they ended up taking a way pared down version of his story and making what is arguably the best classic track episode ever the city on the edge of forever. So that's what I think of when I think of Harlan Ellison Lynn asked me to read the short story. Jaffe is five written by Harlan. Ellison I say short story I mean it shorts in literary terms. It's about an hour to read it here on the Air. But it's a journey we're taking. I hope you'll take it with me. Jaffe is five by Harlan. Ellison when I was five years old there was a little kid I played with Jeffey. His real name was Jeff Kinser and everyone who played with him called him shefty. We were five years old together and we had good times playing together when I was five at Clark. Bar was fat around as the Gripping End of Louisville slugger and pretty nearly six inches long and they used real chocolate to coat it and it crunched very nicely when you bid into the center and the paper had came wrapped in smelled fresh. And good when you peeled off one end to hold the bar so it would melt into your fingers today. A Clark Bar is as thin as a credit card. They use something artificial an awful tasting instead of pure chocolate. The thing is soft and soggy. It cost fifteen or twenty cents instead of a decent correct nickel and they rapid. So you think it's the same size. It was twenty years ago only it. Isn't it's slim and ugly and nasty tasting and not worth a penny much less. Fifteen or twenty cents. When I was that age five years old I was sent away to my Aunt Patricia. Home in Buffalo New York for two years. My father was going through quote. Bad Times and Patricia was very beautiful and had married a stockbroker. They took care of me for two years. When I was seven I came back home and went to find Jaffe so we could play together. I was seven. Shefty was still five. I didn't notice any difference. I didn't know I was only seven when I was seven years old. I used to lie on my stomach in front of our atwater. Kens radio listened to swell stuff tied the ground. Wire to the radiator and I would lie there with my coloring books and my Creo Liz. When there were only sixteen colors in the big box and listen to the NBC. Red Network. Jack Benny on the JELLO program Amos and Andy Edgar Bergen and Charlie McCarthy on the chase and sanborn program one man's family first nighter the NBC. Blue Network Easy Aces the JERGENS program with Walter Wind Chill information please. Death Valley days and best of all the mutual network with the Green Hornet the lone ranger the shadow and quiet. Please today I turn on my car. Radio and go from one end of the dial to the other and again is one hundred strings orchestras banal housewives and insipid truckers discussing. Their kinky. Sex lives with arrogant talk show hosts country and Western dribble and rock music so loud. It hurts my ears and I was ten. My grandfather died of old age and I was quote a troublesome kid and they sent me off to military school so I could be taken in hand. I came back when I was fourteen. Jaffe was still five when I was fourteen years old. I used to go to the movies on Saturday afternoons. A matinee was ten cents and they used real butter on the popcorn and I could always be sure of seeing a western like lash. Larue are wild. Bill ELLIOTT IS RED RIDER WITH BOBBY. Blake as little beaver or Roy. Rogers or Johnny Mack. Brown a scary picture like house of horrors with Rondo. Hatton ton as the strangler or the cat people or the mummy or I married a witch with Fredric March and Veronica Lake plus an episode of a great cereal like shadow with Victor Jewelry or Dick Tracy or Flash Gordon and three cartoons a James Spill. Patrick travel talk movie tone news a sing-along and if I stayed on till evening Bingo or Keno and free dishes today. I go to the movies and see Clint Eastwood Blowing People's heads. Apart like ripe cantaloupes. At eighteen I went to college. Jeff do was still five. I came back during the summers to work at my uncle. Jobs Jewelry Store Jaffe hadn't changed now. I knew there was something different about him. Something wrong. Something Weird Jeffy was still five years old not a day older at twenty two. I came home for keeps to open Sony television franchise in town the first one I saw Jeff Dee from time to time he was five. Things are better in a lot of ways. People don't die from some of the old diseases anymore. Cars go faster and get you there more quickly on better roads shirts are softer and silkier. We have paper back books even though they cost as much as good hardcover use to when. I'm running short in the bank. I can live off credit cards till things even at but I still think we've lost a lot of good stuff. Did you know you can buy linoleum anymore only vinyl floor covering there's no such thing as oilcloth anymore you'll never again smell that special sweet smell from your grandmother's kitchen furniture isn't made the last thirty years or longer. Because they took a survey found that young homemakers like to throw their furniture out and bring in all new color coded borax every seven years records. Don't feel right. They're not thick and solid like the old ones. They're thin and you can bend them. That doesn't seem right to me. Restaurants don't serve cream in pitchers anymore. Just had artificial glock in little plastic tubs and one is never enough to get coffee the right color. You can make a dent in a car fender with only a sneaker everywhere you go all the towns. Look the same with Burger kings and McDonald's seven elevens and Taco bells and motels at shopping centers. Things may be better. But why do I keep thinking about the past? What I mean by five years old is not that Jeffy was retarded. I don't think that's what it was smart as a whip for five years old. Very bright quick. Cute a funny kid but he was three feet tall small for his age and perfectly formed. No big head. No strange jaw none of that. A nice normal looking five year old kid except that he was the same age as I was twenty two when he spoke it was with the squeaking soprano voice of a five year old when he walked with the little hops and shuffles of a five year old when he talked to. You. It was about the concerns of a five year old comic books playing soldier using a clothes pin to attach a stiff piece of cardboard the front. Forgive his bike so the sounded made when the spokes it was like a motor boat asking questions like. Why does that thing do that like that? How high is up? How old is old? Why is grass green? What's an elephant? Look like at twenty two. He was five. Jeff Dis. Parents were a sad pair because I was still a friend of Jackie's. Still let him hang around with me sometimes. Took him to the county fair or miniature golf for the movies. I wound up spending time with them. Not that I much cared for them because they were so awfully depressing. But then I suppose one couldn't expect much more from the portables. They had an alien thing in their home. A child who had grown no older than five in twenty two years who provided the treasurer of that special child like State Indefinitely. But who also denied them. The joys of watching the child grow into a normal adult five is a wonderful time of life for a little kid or it can be if the child is relatively free of the monstrous beasts. Leanness other children indulge in. Its time when the eyes are wide open and the patterns are not yet set a time when one has not yet been hammered into accepting everything as immutable and hopeless a time when the hands cannot do enough. The mind cannot learn enough. The world is infinite and colorful and filled with mysteries. Five is a special time before they take the questing unquenchable quixotic soul of the young dreamer and thrusted into dreary schoolroom boxes. A time before they take the trembling hands that want to hold everything touch everything figure everything out and make them lie. Still on desktops time before people began saying. Act Your Age and grow up or you're behaving like a baby. It's a time when a child who acts at a lesson to still cute and responsive and everyone's Pat a time of delight of wonder of innocence. Jesse had been stuck in that time. Just five just so but for his parents. It was an ongoing nightmare from which no one not social workers not priests not child psychologist. Not Teachers not friends. Not Medical Wizards not psychiatrists. No one could slap or shake them awake for seventeen years. Their sorrow had grown through stages of parental dotage to concern from concern to worry from worry to fear from fear to confusion from confusion to anger from anger to dislike from dislike to naked hatred and finally from deepest loathing and rebel. Shen to a stolid depressive acceptance. John Kinser was a shift foreman at the balder tool and die plant. He was a thirty year man to wherever he won the man living. It is was a spectacularly uneventful life and no way was he remarkable save that he had fathered a twenty two year old five year old. John Kinser was a small man soft with no sharp angles with pay allies. That never seemed to hold mine for longer than a few seconds. He continually shifted in his chair during conversations and seem to see things in the upper corner of the room things. No one else could see or wanted to see. I suppose the word that best suited him was haunted. What is life had become? Well haunted suited him. Leona kinser tried valiantly to compensate no matter what hour of the day I visited. She always tried to foist food on me. And when Jackie was in the house she was always at him. About aiding honey. Would you like an orange a nice? Aura joy tangerine. I have tangerines. I could peel a tangerine for you. But there was clearly such fear in her fear of her own child that the offers of sustenance always had a faintly ominous tone. Leona kinser had been a tall woman but the years had been told her she always seemed to be seeking some area of wallpapered wall or storage niche into which she could fade adopt. Some chimps are rose pattern protective coloration and hide forever in plain sight of the child's Big Brown eyes. Pass her a hundred times a day and never realized she was there holding her breath invisible. She always had an apron tied around her waist and our hands were read from cleaning as if by maintaining the environment immaculately she could pay off her imagined. Sin Having given birth to this strange creature neither of them watch television very much. The house was usually dead silent. Not even the siblings whispering of water in the pipes. The creaking of timber settling the humming up the refrigerator. Awfully silent as if time itself had taken a detour around that house as for Jeff Dee he was in offensive he lived in that atmosphere of gentle dread an dulled loathing and if he understood it he never remarked in anyway he played as a child plays and seemed happy but he must have sensed in the way of a five year old just how alien he was saying their presence alien. No that wasn't right. He was to human if anything but out of phase out of sync with the world around him and resonating to a different vibration than his parents. God knows Norwood other children play with him as they grew past him. They found him at first childish. Then uninteresting then simply frightening as their perceptions of aging became clear and they could see he was not affected by time as they were even the little ones his own age who might wander into. The neighborhood quickly came to shy away from him like a dog in the street when a car backfires thus I remained his only friend a friend of many years. Five years twenty two years. I liked him more than I can say and never knew exactly why that I did without reserve but because we spent time together I found I was also polite society spending time with John and Leona kinser dinner Saturday afternoon sometimes an hour or so when I bring Jaffe back from a movie they were grateful slavishly so it relieved of the Embarrassing Chore of Going Out With Him of having to pretend before the world that they were loving parents with a perfectly normal happy attractive child and their gratitude extended to hosting me hideous every moment of their depression hideous. I felt sorry for the poor devils but I despise them for their inability to love Jaffe. Who was eminently lovable. I never let on of course even during the evenings in their company that were awkward beyond belief we would sit there and the darkening living room always dark or darkening as if captain shadow to hold back what the light might reveal to the world outside through the bride is the House. We would sit and silently stare at one another. They never knew what to say to me. So how're things down at the plant? I'd say John Kinser. He would shrug neither conversation or life suited him with any as grace vine just fine he would say finally and we would sit in silence again. Would you like a nice piece of coffee cake? Leona would say I made it fresh just this morning or deep dish. Green Apple Pie or milk and toll house cookies or a brown betty pudding. No no thank you Mrs Kinser Jaffe and I grabbed a couple of cheeseburgers on the way home and again silence then when the stillness in the awkwardness became too much even for them. And who knew how long that total silence rain when they were alone with that thing they never talked about anymore flange ing between them. Leona kinser would say. I think he's asleep. John kinser would say. I don't hear the radio playing chess. Oh it would go on like that until I could politely find excuse to Bolt Away on some flimsy pretext. Yes that was the way it would go on every time just the same except once. I don't know what to do anymore. Leona said she began crying. There's no change. Not One day of peace. Her husband managed to drag himself out of the old easy chair and went to her a band and tried to soothe her. But it was clear from the graceless way in which he touched her graying hair that the ability to be compassionate had been stunned in him. Shh Leona it's all right but she continued crying. Her hands scraped gently at the Anti Makassar on the arms of the chair. Then she said. Sometimes I wish he had been still-born. John looked up into the corners of the room for the nameless shadows. That were always watching him. Was it God? He was seeking in those spaces. You don't mean he said to her softly pathetically urging her with body tension and trembling in his voice to recant before God took notice of the terrible thought but she meant it. She meant it very much. I manage to get away quickly that evening. They didn't want witnesses to their shame. I was glad to go and for a week. I stayed away from them from Jeffy from their street to even from that end of town. I had my own life. The store accountants suppliers conferences poker with friends. Pretty women I took to well lit restaurants. My own parents putting antifreeze in the car complaining to the laundry about too much starch. The collars and cuffs working out at the gym taxes catching Ian or David. Whichever wanted was stealing from the cash register I had my own life but not even that evening could keep me from Jeff Daddy. He called me at the store and asked me to take him to the Rodeo. We chopped it up as best a twenty two year old with other interests could with a five year old. I never dwelled on what bound us together. I always thought it was simply the years that and affection for a kid who could have been the little brother I never had except I remembered when we'd play together when we had both been the same. I remembered that period and Jeff. Dee was still the same and then one Saturday afternoon. I came to take him to double feature and things. I should have noticed so many times before I began to notice only that afternoon. I came walking up to the Kinzer House. Expecting Jeff Day to be sitting on the front porch steps are in the Porch Glider. Waiting for me. But he was nowhere in sight going inside into that darkness and silence in the midst of. May Sunshine was unthinkable. I stood on the front walk for a few moments then cup to my hands around my mouth and yelled Jeffrey. Hey Jaffe come on out. Let's go. We'll be late. His voice came faintly as if from under the ground. Here I am Donnie. I could hear him but I couldn't see him. It was Jeff de no question about it as Donald. H Horton President and sole owner of the Horton. Tb and sound center. No one but Jeffey called me donny. It never called me anything else actually. It isn't ally. I am as far as the public is concerned sole owner of the center. The partnership with my aunt. Patricia is only to repay the loan. She made to me to supplement the money I came into when I was twenty one left to me when I was ten my grandfather. It wasn't a very big loan only eighteen thousand but I asked her to be a silent partner because of when she had taken care of me as a child. Where are you Jeffey under the porch? In my secret place I walked around the side of the porch and stooped down and pulled away the wicker grading back in there on the press dirt. Jaffe had built himself a secret place. They had comics in orange crates. He had a little table and some pillows. It was lit by big fat candles and we used to hide their when we were both five. What you're up to. I ask crawling in pulling the great closed behind me. It was cool under the porch and the dirt smelled comfortable. The candles smelled clubby and familiar. Any kid would feel at home in such a secret place. There's never been a kid who didn't spend the happiest most productive most deliciously mysterious times of his life in such a secret place playing. He said he was holding something. Golden and round. It filled the palm of his little hand. You forget we were going to the movies. No I was just waiting for you. Hear your mom and Dad Home Mama. I understood why he was waiting under the porch. I didn't push it any further. What have you got there? Captain Midnight Secret Decoder Batch. He said showing it to me on his flatten palm. I realized I was looking at it without comprehending what it was for. A Long Time Min dawned on me. What a Miracle Jeff Dee had in his hand a miracle that simply could not exist chaffey. I said softly with wonder in my voice. Where'd you get? There came in the mail today. I sent away for it. It must have cost a lot of money not so much. Ten cents and two inner wax seals from two jars. Pobal team they. I see it. My voice was trembling and so is the hand eye extended. He gave it to me. And I held the Mir recall in the palm of my hand. It was wonderful. You remember. Captain midnight went on the radio. Nationwide in nineteen forty it was sponsored by Ovaltine and every year they issued a secret squadron decoder badge and every day at the end of the program they would give you a clue to the next day's installment in a code that only kids with the official badge could decipher. They stopped making those wonderful decoder badges in nineteen forty nine. I remember the one I had in nineteen forty five. It was beautiful. It had a magnifying glass. In the center of the code. Dial captain midnight went off the air in nineteen fifty and though I understand it was a short lived television series in the mid fifties and though they issued decoder badges in nineteen fifty five and nineteen fifty six as far as the real badges were concerned they never made one after nineteen forty nine. The Captain Midnight Kodo graph. I held in my hand. The one Jaffe said he had gotten in the mail for ten cents. Ten cents and to ovaltine labels was brand new shiny gold medal. Not a dent or a spot of Rostov on it. Like the old ones you could find at exorbitant prices and collectible shops from time to time it was a new decoder and the date on it was this year but captain midnight no longer existed nothing like it existed on the radio. I listen to the one or two week. Imitations of old time radio. The networks were currently airing in the stories were dull the sound effects. Bland the whole field of IT wrong out of date. Cornball yet I held a new code. Oh Graph Jaffe. Tell me about this. I said tell you what Donnie. It's my new cabin midnight. Secret Decoder Badge. I use it to figure out what's going to happen tomorrow tomorrow. How on the Program? What program. He stared at me as if I was being purposely. Stupid uncapped midnight. Boy I was being dumb. I still couldn't get it straight. It was right there right out in the open and I still don't know what was happening. You mean one of those records. They made of the old time radio programs. Is that what you mean? Jeffey what records he asked. He didn't know what I meant. We stared at each other. They're under the porch. And then I said Berry slowly almost afraid of the answer charity. How do you hear captain midnight every day on the radio on my radio everyday at five thirty news? Music Dum music and news. That's what was on the radio everyday at five thirty not captain midnight. The secret squadron hadn't been on the air and twenty years. Can we hear it tonight? I ask boy he said I was being dumb. I knew it from the way he said it but I didn't know why. Then it dawned on me. This was Saturday captain. Midnight was on Monday through Friday. Not on Saturday or Sunday. We go into the movies. He had to repeat himself twice. My mind was somewhere else. Nothing definite no conclusions. No wild assumptions leapt to just off somewhere trying to figure it out and concluding as you would have concluded as anyone would have concluded rather than accepting the truth the impossible and wonderful truth just finally concluding there was a simple explanation. I didn't get perceive something mundane and dull like the passage of time that steals all good old things from us pack riding trinkets and plastic and exchange and all in the name of progress. We go into the movies Donnie. You Bet your boots we are Kitto. I said and I smile than I handed him. The KODO graph and he put it in his side pants pocket and we crawled out from under the porch and we went to the movies and neither of US said anything about captain midnight. All the rest of that day and there wasn't a ten minute stretch all the rest of that day that I didn't think about it. It was inventory all that next week. I didn't see Jeff D two late Thursday. I confess I left the store in the hands of Ian and David told them. I had some errands to run and left early. At four o'clock I got to the Kinzer is right around. Four forty five. Leona answered the door looking exhausted and distant is Jaffe around. She said he was upstairs in his room. Listening to the radio I climb the stairs two at a time. All right. I had finally made that impossible. Illogical leap had the stretch of belief involved anyone but Jeffey adult or child would have reasoned out more explicable answers but it was Jaffe clearly another kind of vessel of life. And what he might. Experience should not be expected to fit into the ordered scheme. I admit I wanted to hear what I heard even with the door closed. I recognized the program. There goes Tennessee. Get Him. There was the heavy report of Squirrel rifle. Shot and the caning wine of a slug ricocheting. And then the same voice yelled triumphantly. Got Him Dead Center. He was listening to the American Broadcasting Company. Seven ninety kilohertz and he was hearing. Tennessee led one of my favorite programs from the forties. A Western adventure ride not heard in twenty years because it had not existed for twenty years. I sat down on the top step of the stairs. There and the upstairs hall of the Kinser home and I listened to the show. It wasn't a rerun of an old program. I knew every one of them by heart had never missed an episode further evidence that this was a new installment. There were occasional references during the integrated commercials to current cultural and technological developments and phrases that had not existed in common usage in the forties aerosol spray cans laser issing of tattoos. Tanzania the word uptight. I couldn't ignore it. Jaffe was listening to a new segment of Tennessee lead. I ran downstairs and out the front door to my car. Leona must have been in the kitchen. I turn the key and punched on the radio and spun the dial two seven ninety kilohertz the ABC Station Rock Music. I sat there for a few moments then ran the dial slowly from one end to the other music. News talk shows. No Tennessee led and it was a blaupunkt the best radio I could get. I wasn't missing some perimeter station. It simply was not there. After a few moments I turned off the radio and the ignition and went back upstairs quietly. I sat down on top staff and listen to the entire program. It was wonderful exciting imaginative filled with everything. I remembered as being most innovative about radio drama but it was modern. It wasn't an antique rebroadcast to assuage the need of that dwindling listenership who longed for the old days. It was a new show with all the old voices but still young and bright. Even the commercials were for currently available products. But they weren't as loud or as insulting as the screamer adds one heard on radio these days and when Tennessee lead went off at five o'clock I heard Jeff de spin the dial on his radio till I heard the familiar voice of the announcer. Glenn rigs proclaim presenting Hop Harrigan America's Ace of the airwaves. There was the sound of an airplane in flight. It was a prop plane not a jet. Not The sound kids. Today have grown up with but the sound. I grew up with the real sound of an airplane. The growling robbing throaty. Sound of the of airplanes G. Eight in his battle aces flew the kind captain. Midnight flew the kind hop Harrigan flu and then I heard hop say see X. Four calling control tower C x four calling control tower standing by a pause then. Okay this is Paraguayan coming in and Jeffey. Who had the same problem of all of us kids had in the forties with programming that pitted equal favorites against one? Another on different stations having paid his respects to hop. Harrigan tank tinker spun the dial and went back to ABC. Where I heard the stroke of a gone the wild cacophony of nonsense Chinese chatter and the announcer yelled Terry and the pirates. I sat there on the top staff. And listen to Terry and Connie and flip Corcoran and so help me God agnes Moorehead as the Dragon Lady. All of them in a new adventure that took place in a Red China that had not existed. In the days of Milton. Kennedy's 1937 version of the orient with river pirates and Chiang Kai Shek and warlords and die imperialism of American gunboat. Diplomacy sat and listened to the whole show and sat even longer to hear Superman and part of Jack Armstrong. The all American boy and part of Captain Midnight and John Kinser came home and neither he nor Leona came upstairs to find out what had happened to me or aware. Jaffe was and sat longer and found. I'd started crying and could not stop just sat there with tears running down my face into the corners of my mouth sitting and crying until Jeff d heard me and opened his door and saw me and came out and looked at me and childish confusion as I heard the station break for the mutual network and they began the theme music of Tom. Mix when it's round up time in Texas and the bloom is on the same page and Jeff touched my shoulder and smiled at me with his mouth and his big brown eyes and said Hi Donnie. He WanNa come in and listen to the radio with me. Hume denied the existence of an absolute space. In which each thing has its place. Board denies the existence of a single time in which all events are linked. Jeffey received radio programs from a place that could not in logic in the natural scheme of the Space Time Universe has conceived by Einstein exist. But that wasn't all he received. He got mail order premiums that no one was manufacturing. He read comic books that had been defunct for three decades. He saw movies with actors. Who'd been dead for twenty years? He was the receiving terminal for endless joys and pleasures of the past that the world had dropped along the way on. Its headlong suicidal. Slight toward the new. Tomorrow's the world had raised its treasure house of simple happiness and poured concrete over its playgrounds had abandoned its Elfin stragglers and all of it was being impossibly miraculously shunted back into the present through Jeff. Th-they revivify updated. The traditions maintained but contemporaneous Jaffe was the unbidden Aladdin whose very nature formed the magic lamp. -Ness of his reality and he took me into his world with him because he trusted me. We had breakfast quaker. Puffed wheat sparky said warm. Ovaltine we drank out of this year's little orphan. Annie Shakeup mugs. We went to the movies. And while everyone else was seeing a comedy starring. Goldie Hawn and Ryan O'Neal Jeff Dee and I were enjoying Humphrey bogart as the professional thief. Parker in John Huston's brilliant adaptation of the Donald. Westlake novel sleigh ground. The second feature was Spencer Tracy. Carole Lombard Laird Krieger and the vowel Luton produced film of line again versus the ants. Twice a month we went down to the newsstand and bought the current pulp issues of the shadow. Doc Savage and startling stories Jaffe and I sat together and I read to him from the magazines. He particularly liked the new short novel. By Harry Kutner the dreams of Achilles and Stanley. A wind bom series of short stories sat in the Subatomic. Particle Universe have reduced or not in September we enjoyed the first installment of the new Robert e Howard CONAN novel. I'll of the black ones in weird tales and in August. We were only mildly disappointed by Edgar Rice. Burroughs fourth novella in the Jupiter series featuring John Carter of Bar Soom corsairs of Jupiter but the editor of argosy. All Story. Weekly promised. There would be two more stories in the series and it was such an unexpected revelation for Jeff Dee in me that it dimmed our disappointment that the lesson quality of the current story we read comics together and Jackie and I both decided separately before we came together to discuss that our favorite characters were doll man boy and the heap. We also adored the George Carlson Strips and Jingle Jangle comics particularly the Pie face Prince of Old Pretzel Burke Stories which we read together and leftover. Even though I had to explain some of the Esoteric Puns to Jeff Dee who was too young to have that kind of subtle wit how to explain it. I can't I had an physics in college to make some offhand guesses but I'm more likely wrong than right. The laws of conservation of energy occasionally break these are laws that physicists call weekly violated perhaps Jeffy was a catalyst for the week violation of conservation. Laws. We're only now beginning to realize exist. I tried doing some reading in the area. Mohan decay of the forbidden kind gamma decay. The dozen include the Mohan neutrino among its products. But nothing I encountered not. Even the latest readings from the Swiss Institute for Nuclear Research Near Zurich gave me an insight. I was thrown back on a vague acceptance of their philosophy. That the real name for science is magic no explanations but enormous good times the happiest time of my life. I had the real world the world of my store and my friends and my family the world of profit and loss of taxes and evenings with young women who talked about going shopping or the United Nations or the rising cost of coffee and microwave ovens and I had Japanese world in which I existed only when I was with him the things of the past he knew as fresh and new I could experience only when in his company and the membrane between the two worlds grew ever thinner more luminous and transparent I had the best of both worlds and new somehow that I could carry nothing from one to the other forgetting for just a moment betraying Jeff d by forgetting brought an end to it all enjoying myself so much. I grew careless and failed to consider how fragile the relationship between Japanese world. And my world really was. There is a reason. Why the present begrudges the existence of the past. I never really understood nowhere in the beast books where survival is shown in battles between claw and Fang tentacle in poison. Sac is their recognition of the ferocity. The present always brings to bear on the past. Nowhere is their detailed statement of how the present lies in way to four. What was waiting for it to become now this moment so it can shred it with its merciless jaws who could no such a thing at any age and certainly not at my age. Who could understand such a thing? I'm trying to exculpate myself. I can't it was my fault. It was another Saturday afternoon. What's playing today? I ask him in the car on the way downtown. He looked up at me from the other side of the front seat and smiled one of his best smiles. Ken Maynard in Bull Whip Justice and the demolished man. He kept smiling as if he'd really put one over on me. I looked at him with disbelief. You're kidding I said delighted. Besters that demolished man. He nodded his head delighted. Admi- being delighted. He knew it was one of my favorite books. Oh that's super super duper he said. Who's in it franchise tone? Evelyn keyes Lionel. Barrymore and Aleisha Cook Junior. He was much more knowledgeable about movie actors than I'd ever been. He could make a character actor in any movie he'd ever seen even the crowd scenes and cartoons. I asked three of them a little Lulu Donald Duck and bugs bunny and a Pete Smith specialty and Lou Layer. Monkeys is the craziest peoples. Oh boy I said I was grinning from ear to ear and then I looked down and saw the pad of purchase order forms on the seat. I'd forgotten to drop it off at the store. GotTa stop by the Center. I said got a drop off something. It'll only take a minute okay. Jaffe said but we won't be late. Will we not on your ten type? Kitto I sat when I pulled into the parking lot behind the center. He decided to come in with me and we'd walk over to the theater. It's not a large town. There were only two movie houses. Utopia and the lyric we're going to go to. Utopia was only three blocks from the center. I walked into the store with the PAT of forms and it was bedlam. David and Jan were handling to customers each and there were people standing around waiting to be helped. Jan turned to look on me. Interface was a horror mask of pleading. David is running from the stockroom to the showroom and all he could murmur as he whipped past was health and then he was gone. Jeff T I said crouching down listen give me a few minutes Jan. David are in trouble with all these people. We won't be late. I promised just let me get rid of a couple of these customers. He looked nervous but nodded. Okay I motioned to a chair and said just sit down for a while. I'll be right with you. He went to the chair. Good as you please though. He knew what was happening and he sat down. I started taking care of people who wanted color television sets. This was the first really substantial batch of unit. We'd gotten in color. Television was now only becoming reasonably priced. And this was Sony's first promotion. And it was a bonanza time for me I could see paying off the loan and being out in front for the first time with the Center. It was business in my world. Good business comes first. Jeffey sat there and stared at the wall. Let me tell you about the wall. Stanchion and bracket designs had been rigged from floor to within two feet of the ceiling. Television said been stacked artfully on the wall. Thirty three television sets all playing at the same time black and white collar little ones big ones all going at the same time. Geoffrey sat and watched thirty three television sets on a Saturday afternoon. We can pick up a total of thirteen channels including the UHF educational stations. Golf was on one channel baseball. On a second celebrity. Bowling was on a third. The fourth channel was a religious seminar. A teenage dance show was on the fifth. The sixth was a rerun of a situation comedy. The seventh was a rerunnable police. Show eighth was a nature program. Showing a man fly casting endlessly nine. Th was news and conversation. Ten was a stock car race. Eleventh was a man doing logarithms on a blackboard. Twelfth was a woman in a leotard. Doing sitting up exercises and on the thirteenth channel was a badly animated cartoon show in Spanish. All but six of the shows were repeated on three sets. Jaffe sat and watched that wall of television on a Saturday afternoon. While I sold as fast and hard as I could to pay back my aunt Patricia and stay in touch with my world it was business. I should have known better. I should've understood about the present and the way it kills the past but I was selling with both hands and when I finally glanced over at Jeffey half an hour later. He looked like another child. He was sweating that terrible. Fevers sweats when you have stomach flu. He was Pale as pasty and Pale as a worm and his little hands gripping the arms of chairs so tightly I could see his knuckles in bold relief. I dashed over to him. Excusing myself from the middle aged couple looking at the new twenty one inch Mediterranean Model Jeffey. He looked at me but his eyes didn't track. He was in absolute terror. I pulled him out of the chair and started toward the front door with him. But the customers I deserted yelled at Bay. The middle aged man said you want to sell this thing or don't you? I looked from him to Jeff Dee and back again chapter was like a Zombie. He had come or I pulled him. His legs were robbery and his feet dragged the past being eaten by the present. The sound of something in pain. I clawed some money out of my pants pocket. Jammed it into shefty's hand Kiddo. Listen TO ME GET. Outta here right now. He still couldn't focus properly chaff. Day I said is tightly as I could listen to me. The middle aged customer and his wife were walking toward us. Listen Kiddo get Outta here right this minute walk over to the Utopia and buy the tickets. I'll be right behind you. The middle aged man and his were almost honest. I shopped Jeff D through the door and watched him stumble away in the wrong direction. Then stop is if gathering his wits. Turn and go back past the front of the center and in the direction of Utopia yes sir said straightening up and facing them. Yes ma'am at is one terrific set with some sensational features. If you just step back here with me. There was a terrible sound of something hurting but I couldn't tell from which channel or from which set it was coming most of it. I learned later from the girl in the ticket booth and from some people. I knew who came to tell me what had happened. By the time I got to the Utopia nearly twenty minutes later. Jaffe was already beaten to a pulp and had been taken to manager's office. Did you see a very little boy about five years old with big Brown eyes and straight brown hair? He was waiting for me. Oh I think that's the little boy. Those kids beat up. What where is he? They took him to the manager's office no one knew who he was or where to find his parents. A young girl wearing ushers uniform was kneeling down beside the couch. Placing a wet paper towel on his face. I took the towel away from her and ordered her out of the office. She looked insulted and snorted something rude but she left. I sat on the edge of the couch and tried to swat away. The blood from the lacerations without opening the wounds where the blood caked both of his eyes were swollen shut. His mouth was ripped badly his hair was matted with dried blood. He'd been standing in line behind two kids in their teens. They started selling tickets at twelve. Thirty in the show started at one. The doors weren't open till twelve. Forty five he'd been waiting and the kids in front of him and had a portable radio. They were listening to the ball game. Jesse had wanted to hear some program. God knows what it might have been grand central station. Let's pretend the land the lost God only knows which one it might have been. He asked if he could borrow their radio to hear the program for a minute and it had been a commercial break or something and the kids had given him the Radio. Probably out of some militias kind of courtesy. They would permit them to take offense and rag the little boy. He changed the station and they'd been unable to get it to go back to the ball game. It was locked in to the past on the station that was broadcasting program that didn't exist for any one but shefty they had beaten him badly as everyone watched and then they had run away. I had left him alone. Left him to fight off the present without sufficient weaponry I had betrayed him for the sale of a twenty one inch Mediterranean console television and now his face was pulped meet. He moaned something inaudible and he sobbed softly. Shh It's okay Kiddo. It's Donny I'm here I'll get your home. It'll be okay. I should've taken him straight to the hospital. I don't know why I didn't I should have. I should have done when I carried him through the door. John in Liana. Kinser just stared at me. They didn't move to take him from my arms. One of his hands was hanging down. He was conscious but just barely. They stared there in the semi darkness of the Saturday afternoon. In the present I looked at them. A couple of kids beat him up at the theater. I raised him a few inches in my arms and extended him. They stared at me at both of us with nothing in there is without movement. Jesus Christ I shouted. He's been beaten. He's your Saen. Don't you even touch chip? What the hell kind of people are you then? Leona moved toward me very slowly. She stood in front of a for a few seconds and there was a leaden stoicism interface. That was terrible to see. It said I have been in this place before many times and I cannot bear to be in it again but I am here now and so. I gave him to her. God help me. I gave him over to her and she took him upstairs to bay the way his blood and his pain John Kinser and I stood in our separate spaces and the dim living room of their home and we stared at each other. He had nothing to say to me. I shoved past him and fell into a chair. I was shaking. I heard the bath water running upstairs after what seemed a very long time. Leona came downstairs wiping her hands on her apron. She sat down on the Sofa and after a moment john sat down beside her. I heard the sound of rock music from upstairs. Would you like a piece of Nice pound cake? Leona said I didn't answer. I listening to the sound of the music rock music on the radio. It was a table lamp on the table beside the SOFA. It cast a dim futile light in the shadow living room rock music from the present on radio upstairs. I started to say something and then I knew God no. I jumped up. Just as the sound of hideous. Crackling blotted out the music and the table. Lamp dimmed and dimmed and flickered I screamed something. I don't know what it was and I ran for the stairs. Jeff these parents did not move. They sat there with their hands folded. That place they had been for so many years. I fell twice rushing up the stairs. There isn't much on television. That can hold my interest. I bought an old cathedral shaped filled co radio and a second hand store and I replaced to the all burnt out parts with the original tubes from old radios I could cannibalize that still worked. I don't use transistors or printed circuits. They wouldn't work. I've sat in front of that set for our sometimes running the dial back and forth slowly as you can imagine so slowly. It doesn't look as if it's moving at all sometimes but I can't find captain midnights or land of the lost or the shadow or quiet please. So she did love him still a little bit even after all those years. I can't hate them. They only wanted to live in the present world again. That isn't such terrible thing. It's a good world. All things considered it's much better than it used to be in a lot of ways. People don't die from old diseases anymore. They die from new ones. But that's progress isn't it isn't it? Tell me somebody please tell me. What a beautiful story from Harlan Ellison. Thank you so much for submitting. That Jaffe is five. Thank you for spending some time with me today. We will continue to do this from time to time. 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Uncle Jack Charles: Not true blue, true blak

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Uncle Jack Charles: Not true blue, true blak

"This is an a._b._c. podcast. Check charles is now in cities. Jack is an actor who performed in some classic sick ustralian films and stage productions jackson respected eldon and a former victorian senior of the year but he's also been a cat burglar gla a heroin addict and he's been incarcerated twenty two times. Jack doesn't do any of that stuff now and he thinks he can help young aboriginal kids who like he wants walt's confused and angry and profoundly disconnected from the culture throughout his childhood. Jack charles had no idea <music> whose mother was and went looking for him. He got arrested because it was illegal theme to even try jackets had a wild oiled wildlife and despite several bouts of bad behavior some he's getting more and more handsome as he gets older. Jack has written a completely engrossing memoir which i devoured in one great big hit and just a quick warning story does contain some pretty confronting elements. Jack charles's book is called born again black fellow hello jack. Hey richard very good to be on your show. What is your beauty secret. I am twitty us younger than you and i look like crap fantastic. What's your secret. Check now. Not it had the rock black change some wearing them. Sometimes you say it in my face and i always like to tell people i looks. I definitely hanshin mentioned because i'm off the drugs. We'll so my you know my drug addled. <hes> body had survived all that nothing once you clean yourself once you're biding by the doctor's orders once you're true to yourself <hes> somehow or another you have these fresh complexion and i'm seventy six issue. I occasionally look in the mirror of a morning <hes> <hes> look and say the face and that you know. I'll just totally amazed that i <hes> look as good as i do. Even without by the eighth in the where were you born jack osbourne and <hes> royal women's hospital graham street calton in nodding forty three september him and mom had manage to take me two dashes pedic between melbourne and shiva marina and the dashes paddock a fella camp day rubbish dump so you would take from your bra mayor at four months and then delivered to the city mission babies time in brunswick and when i go to big at two years old a little note was attached to me and i was delivered to box hill boy time. What was the right our taken onto these simulation policy remember show. I didn't get that primer record that is people got when taken in the fifties when you take into box hill boys hon salvation army. Please describe the building for me. There was one great big a huge mansion at the fraud. It's still stands as a matter of fact but <hes> arrest of them were hopes to three different times and that and the main buildings were solid as and they had their anders and excetera but all built there and we'll being raised catholic ethel future walls and that soldiers of the cross. Did you like that kind of muscular salvation army christianity back when you were kid. Well you know obviously henrik okay and i liked the mounting like the songs are like the music obviously whitewashing the blood of jesus christ wonder stayed richard. I wanted to beat the junky carrying burying jesus over the party's. That's how what was i had become. You wanted to be the donkey on power cherry juice well. He did not not the disciple. That's interesting. I wanted to beat the donkey because they the woman running bible classes. Wouldn't you like to be the donkey carrying jesus over the palm 'anglaise with everyone waving jesus said yes miss. I'd like to be the donkey. Caring digs us have fond memories of that. How'd you get on with the other boy always bring the on the on well really basically and ba met colors and i knocking my door or in the course of doing turing jack charles versus a crowd foam comrades. I like to make people in the foyer after the show and many of them remembered me from box hill boys naturally i couldn't couldn't remember any of them but it was significant truly locked in the nation that i was the only registered aboriginal kid. Dan nice guys remembered me. You're right about how you and the other boys were abused by a particularly vile sexual predator in place when stuff you a few of them well well. I n was approached in my last jails to my my former comrades. We're all clicking on methadone at portlaoise prison and i said to me. Check your remember us from box. Hill bozon couldn't remember than a goes and i said well jet. We remember you. We are part of a class action and against the box hill boys heim and officers on my just sound so and so we'd like your phone number to give to the class action lawyers because i believe you the best blackjack to give credence invalidate. The stories of wobbling taunted the box hill boys and sure enough. I gave them my phone number and shortly after all was booted out of the jail royan karl on thomas rang we and and i gave them new story. I defined years. This happened and that happened but really basically offices person that he approached my bid was a fist person and he approached because roy opposite lead. He's little cubbyhole attached to the dormitory so all of this stuff and i remember it you you know they're like a mouse winter when i when i snake is about to pounce being interviewed with that and and it was brutal and it was regular and or something to be tolerated and none of us have spoke about opt abbassi came out it was a should was a native version on the i._d._c. and some fellows had written nabbed bronco. We just saw jackie child on the television. We thought he was dead but we'd like to tell you what to him. So i had some stories validated it to develop some of the cruel and unusual punishment totally forgotten or piddle in the back of mon mon sexual escapades that i had to endure a so it wasn't until this time is later that we got to talk about it how do you how does it feel talking about this now. After all this time conjure once the catholic stories started to come out and we're published in that it took me into great depressions in that <hes> but i live with depression have to live with it or guitar close boy in my unit and i sort of seeing myself out of them but it never goes away was talking about it talking about it and he's just fantastic actually and i got from from that from the salvos. Yeah i got a hundred grand because it was proven beyond doubt that this happened because many people evidence about okay so i was given a hundred grand for what went on in buffalo boys on your bookish kid with a place where you could go in that time and be aligned. Yes sir shaw up a tree and the back of the school and when you're up that tree we never poundstone may or die on me. I used to do it regularly upper tray of the weekends away from the maddening mobs. You said it was in this home that you learned the art of acting jack householder well when you were not you were forced to put on boxing gloves and be locked in the jim with the bigger kid and i remember now the being bought a couple of the kids wrote he boy apparently it didn't turn up of the monster or something like that late for dinner jal or not and often were punished but there was one kid in the home who flatly twice to to bash me and he said jack locked up in here loan. Okay are not gonna. You're not gonna have to mike amp up being hitting you will make some sounds. I'm guy and just before. I l at yale out to open the door on gun ashley. You gotta make you cry. Jack okay so so i was doing. He was thumping east fisted ended the lead the way going oh and then he'd slip me into place and of a tear up and come out trying inch knipling rot. That'd be enough. That'd be so i love my acting and i do remember. There's a little picture of me and my cowboy elbow uniform being taken how savane events six or even five with this cowboy uniform the funny thing was that arthritis being entitled the photo of uniform the gun on the com- called pipe in my mouth and that the the next key to take it off the lecture debris photographed in met you know and i'm donate that there's a caption saying marthers acting role cowboy the cowboy but now you have to you know <hes> act a lot a kids are resilient and they were sometimes i they had to act against the bullyish kids with a celebration army officers zone with the ladies or put on a good actor desire indeed aide marshall to them that was allowed into the kitchen. Even johnson were staring the porridge and we had a wonderful time because i witnessed her taste falling into the porridge one time she had them out in washington and we had a good. We keep this quiet jackie. We do have a very beguiling voice or have. You always been charming. Do you think that has that stood you. In good stead at yes yes well. They it was a teacher in the home who took me aside and he gave me personally after hours. Non sexual nothing like that felt really comfortable within and he taught me elocution. Listen gave me elocution lessons the right now the rain inch that kinda shit right in law's awesome do little little little and he died and i was really upset and i remember being best the bigger boys for crying at his fellows but i was really taken with that fella. He really you know and they hit teacher. Just before i left at the home of fourteen are remember him. Hugging me close closely and it wasn't one of those sexual hugs. It was a hug i on reflection and looking at him. A martial thought. I was gonna leave a terrible life on the hon and it's so so happened that it wasn't so terrible. Did you have any sense of your aboriginality then jack i knew all i knew that i was ever you know and what does that mean to you. Well one of the fellows that killed captain cook. The boys told me why that's crazy. Tom and that's why allergy sometimes they jumped on sometimes did you ever since you being a second class citizen for being a kid back then i know nine dollars a bit of a novelty not your exotic other than exhorting species chosen specifically but itself is to be in the right spot at the right time to showcase. I do remember going to a big celebration on me exhibition at the exhibition buildings and all those paid with his pretty good mice is we were there to hand iverson posey's to those in bright on the dice she curtseys <hes> all i could see caused the stir rumbling and so may a young joy de attention but i had been trained to sing us on our specially chosen to sing on the big stage of god. I liked the same and sheila saying in dislodged. The course one time be yeah. A year dwelled on an right here made thick bhushan gum trees tall with face route boomerang. You know their shop spears. They knew every bird brewers coal often went walk about in cam far way every body free and run into forest trees so women indie yere stream life went on with them now k. barra la with clad man kangaroo gum or joy aborigines aborigine throw. He's boomer rang boras birds a game mary to saying there amid the bride yellow i belong awesome but right and louder red gum fly. Everybody lead then glad all because the white man you could say what was i was. I wasn't ready for that punchline at the end sir. Thank you for making a hat. Because it's part of who i am i would saying that chosen one to see especially in the salvation army so you lift boxer boys aged fourteen and you were taken into a foster home. It was run by a widow mrs murphy who was she told me about her please. He worked up in the coach factory. She was the mother of a woman that had taken me out often norman nichols and kevin nicholls alpin they come in and pick me up and they're awesome nice seven. I'd indeed indeed marcel to her shared sons to use on jeeze year posses apprentice mechanics and we'll i would i would. I not die. They were lovely to me. You know they dink me around on their bikes would you were you considering becoming a budget yourself jackie through side pipe pants but misses murphy wouldn't allow alami in actually fletcher jones got instead. I know i've seen pictures of you that time. When you really are like a very very presentable young man oh very preventable my oh yes he. We looked out to me. I've seen some of the letters that she'd written to the average on welfare board to get more funding for clothing etc. How did you like family life for the first hour great experience but at every turn run she did not me back from my queries about mom i had experienced in anaheim before i left some experiences. That led me to believe that i did have family wasn't an orphan as she and the welfare board insisted that those did you have an inkling that you might be guy at that point yes yes even at that age and being being being a member of the church as it was packed into that fraud new bother you would not bother me but i never liked flying footy for redburn united and that was to tenpy zaps alone. I kept himself michelle today. Even though i had a group app side the ten eleven you move so you got a job at a gloss factory last mailing factory and the boston elaborate load introduced all sorts of interesting people yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah. Hey always bring around. He's mites to meet the leverage. Know boy wouldn't in the back day and i'm and one time he bought around this bloat as jack. I want you to mind her don. Bradman made jack charles so at fifty okay now shocked the hands of donald bradman unbelievable and the boys at work. You know they said that jack. I didn't that was not sporty taught really since then well. I shook the hand of a religion and the here's marcy gig with the a._b._c. I was with a series called behind the legend and i had to play eddie gilbert your first ball or from jerry dougie balls donald bradman out twice for doc so i came into full circle then it came advil to say so. You said you were asking mrs. Murphy your mother who you called. Mom story stood repeatedly about how you suspected. You might have some brothers and sisters. What made you think that well. I told them about the young feller that came. I'm into box hill a month before i left and he's lost his child off the shelves. And what did you say when you may have met her fellow. That might be my brother and i knew that mrs murphy wasn't a religious woman so i used to sneak out and they did win win. Tonight of the methodist service into blackburn village used to sneak sneak out to go to church wow on a sunday night. I don't know if that's very naughty. Oh very on naughty naughty because she came in one time boulders brush. Josh dragged me out by my ear very upset with the risk of the church people at take my belly up. He's got to go to work tomorrow out the victory but i kept on getting back to that church we had a little group social group and at one time we typed on up to the notre boarding gills <music>. I'm to put on a concert for alleged. It'll go and amongst those two little amongst all liars gills with these little white lie have original children knuckles august mouse then names the elder of the two shyly responds. I'm as my and this and sister yvonne well. What do you mind encode claude child. She's a child a child to ladies. Wouldn't that be funny. We're brothers and sisters and we were the system in box hill and win knighton. Just were not allowed to tell us that we were in dade brothers and sisters. So what was it that made you interested in finding out who you might be related to what got you to actually take some action in that regard check well also in the fifties sometime mid fifties an ankle or ninety in mind came into the bucks'll boys to take me out for a picnic henry and amy childs came in his big fresh chevrolet away and took me over to sorry path crossed the high and it was one of a look and they said your uncle this is your haughty and they didn't come back the next sunday although gone to malaysia and put on the sunday best and sunday for another visitation but it never happened so you knew you had relatives some. I knew i had relative because i said i didn't tell me about mum on reflection now got the story stories from the corey heritage. Trust link up. I've got the story of what went on why these two had come in. I believe that uncle doug nicholls at sent those two so in your checkout branchy child's benji child who had just been arrested for the killing of a of an alfred pamphlet senior in a black fellow camp up in griffith's. So where did you go looking for family once. You wanted to stop trying to find out who your family was well the first time young in at you know a sixteen. I don't mean participant four seven days off. My printers was at the behest of the boys that were is lonnie blackfellas fitzroy. Jack bet you got family amongst them. You guys for yourself so i went to fitzroy took. The bullet went on up. There do not full pipette that are normally have to take him to mrs murphy and i opened and what have you got off the tram. At the corner jonquils i ramming the corner navy and gertrude straight win this all black fellow-poles me up giles gubronci charles's boy and of course me sell it is all fellow he grabs me and hodgman kisses me. He's recognized me. We can recognize papal as indigenous people. Even though we know who we are in many of the chargers in with small paper offers more. I look like my mom and my sisters apparently to how long had you been standing on the street before someone someone came up and said you you'll blanche child jumped off that tran even woken up all fell. He grabbed me in as i said to this hugging and kissing business he a forced march me up to build his arms and of course on data and another 'nother world when i walk into that building you hadn't admitted before tiles crossed a couldn't not a drinker i walked in and every face and apply seemed to be black and he side jobs here hebrew coming up to me signed it among or auntie cousins on that and then there's azusa truly iva well beeri hugs and kisses and that and then all one our lady tractor moms lebron up in just one. Ill young belly a gallon later. We'll tell at first chance i get what are the duty to discover your mom's living near swan hill victoria well the wild well for me. I had dried intentions of gone back to mom telling you even then on christmas holidays coming up soon i'll go up and and what was it like being in a room full of aboriginal men and women pretty scary really oh yes. She didn't feel like these these people's a pretty scary but at the same time i was very welcomed at the same time so when you get when you lift the pub whatever when you go back home to mrs murphy well alive. I jumped up on his doorstep and joy joy. My mom just found mum. I expected this year my joy nice such lap. She rendered the story out of me. My night in the fitzroy puppy recognizes the child but we're still ma pipe packet ripped open and third of it spent this riles are now now in she comes at me. Dies people will tell you anything yeah. I'm raising my hand and gonna hit. The fried in there is get to bitchy his people back it off now. She and i put my pajamas and settle down for the night when she calls me to the front door. A place place davey wagon parked in the drive and driven either to royal for juvenile offenders richard. I was awarded the state a child of the crowd around and would have been until i might aid and that woman i've called mum had done me unruly disobedient so for the first time i remember banging locked alone in a cell cry myself to sleep while how does that work. How could you be arrested. Incarcerated jialing offense saleh got locked up for that fits going into calling what fitch roy mixing up with other blackfellas on that finding my roots. What did you break. The assimilation probably simulation act is my dad. I am jialing offense for many of us who had endured the the homes and who filed out foster and adopted people <hes>. We're locked up in john. I saw the next day the law the diet and i it was the first becomes familiar series of incarcerations. If and when i get lit up the next morning there i say many of the other filed old brian or an always outta fellas that had filed a foster and adopted table. Check your foster mother. Mrs murphy she'd been and i suppose kind to you and healers card but she called the police to take you away right mahan what this was. This was a our so pissed off with her for not believing me. When are these were <hes> there was a spot was because i've found my real mom is over the years and <hes> yes yes and finally realized it was the end of a good thing if i were leveraging all boy <music> sean large moving away from her advocacy control and that and tending for himself you know i think i think all of us parents have that with their kids but we don't call the cops well. That's that's. Did you feel betrayed. Lait here. Yes yishai. Official felt very slide <hes> very really upset and when you go back to click my state bankbook so she didn't want you in the house anymore. If you didn't want me anymore i can't me but ironically hi boss krangar up and said where's my favorite beverage wicca always log levin when he came and vialed me out your boss poudrier me up put me in gentleman's residence in glen ferry and within walking spice evolve and where i worked and being independent still yet the at a year of becoming eighteen that i started to fend for myself started to think for ourself nobody really ordering me about <hes> never saw any song that any welfare board member ought to that i had to file to the welfare system and i didn't wanna have about to do with me anymore. China i have to this hill police and thawed out if i i am among and of course i got from the sergeant so yes jack are now your mom mm-hmm. She's living in here between on the river between mowlem swan hill and i said well. I intend to come up the next christmas. Holidays ray wakes off got from work and i told my boss i said well. I'll book you a flawed update jack <music> on a._b._c. radio. You're listening to conversations richard fidler podcast cast broadcast online <music> so you boss wanted you back and it was it was lovely to you and i love the work ethic. You loved all that eh. How were you introduced to a life of crime from as the rugby as a being delivered in declared phiri led me to where ole as young criminals take a life of ronald reagan by the time i arrived there offers in gentleman risen nearby and we used to meet up at zeke feels dance. Many of us would guy. The date was always on the side of looking at the gentleman's really i have. I do remember one fellow signed to me. Check you wanna do a big with me. What's a book. What what do you mean. What's her big break into shop in that burglary impressionable may i must have fancied in these nine was join singlish beautiful kid and i wanted to do his bidding pretty boy. He got <hes> up the cigarettes but he'd thrown the long machined directly through the front window and he landed straight into the arms of the decks waiting for half and by the tom i'll go to my residents the jackson him we're sitting on my i bid widening foaming so you've done for breaking and entering jianqing in jail debated child immediately sitcom. You've been in casseroles evident pantry. What'd jamaica patrons when you call. It is exciting to be in pentridge. Might you know a lot of other box. Hill boys boys where they wouldn't bayswater boys is where they gangster's many of them that so you need people already knew a lot of people they are. I walked him with ox blood. Petard shoes always aside and i've always as you know the well-spoken will ever you know fella who if you give him some major some trophy. He'll wrote letters for you. So out of prison you went back took the gloss factory again this boss center be really quite lovely with you and this was a random about the time you decided you would try and make contact with your mom who you heard was near swan hill okay. How did you do that well. I took my leave. I've said wealth hill meeting mom jack. Here's some extra money a bonus giving you a bonus track and all of that lot. He's a very nice man. I couldn't have done because you know. I did it because because of that happened and so i flew up swan him and <hes> landed dan that was wonderful. Fly in applying my best experience sobat we landed as one and there was the sajjan from swan hill police drive into swan hill took us around across the board of to the federal l'hotel and lifted around the back of the hotel r so old ladies little fella camp with like something out of of a slave quarters the deep south in america. I hear i'll arrange for a lift to take you to your mom jack jack jack. I suggest you buy a car no melvin bidder. Your mom likes to drink. Check where he's exactly all we will so i bought a cop. Melbourne bidder put it next to my property in my luggage and there was a couple of al four hours due to be picked up by this couple also gave to the swan. Ila basim awesome ever swim. I you know so across the board and walked up to twenty thousand that and i'm standing there and get money about to to pay and the woman said is on the swim day on kept money. You got the money and nine you swim here. You gotta go the the mary d nonplus by fist experience of country racism and that i was so struck dead the big fella behind on may we these kids pick up your son. Block me dad and get out of the way so what happened when this couple pick you up yep <hes> yes so he goes out to we know your mom lives. We know the property check show. We'll take you all away and so we go to the property. Where mom lives math then we drive along the driveway. I see a beautiful white house in the distance or that's north there and suddenly we veer off track into guttered track track and there's happy and twelve whippet dogs and two four prefix and there's my mom loitering towards me and and <hes> i i already auditing toward me. How'd you look to you when she was working or looked a little like manny lodger beautiful black hair we h over long time it's good to see your son remember unofficial of the first one taking and <hes> welcome to be realized that she did like the drink. They were a big hit up to me. I saw it under canvas roof. It was hard uh to get anything out of a head and realized this he was they're basically ostracized by the wrist of new south wales and victoria gloria ostracize that murder in the fifties. What was that modem. That modem was the payback law for this man's behavior towards the children. The women in black fella camp up in griffith's. She was the one to call the meeting. She was commonly called. Sajjan people still now her my mom as the sergeant was nick knight that was anyth- eight nine sergeant so she'd organize what some aboriginal law law payback against as manage behavior towards the women and children in the camp another men's women's and enforce that she was ostracized so this is on the on the <hes> on both societies that when we did going to pop up bank count money anima bank and that she would have a lot of arguments which some of the women in the black fella camp and she would get off at nato. How many kids did she have taken from her jack. Well lenin eleven to earth so all eleven kids were taken. She never got to raise any less she she got to raise <hes> as my even joe and arty until they were little lunch then tuygan sil- each and every one of us were taken and and the last one jennifer has taken shortly thereafter does that explain behavior explained why here behavior and and i somehow or another my diction modest set me apart but all night or never to be part of her life and did you hear the clarion her job or to look into the five surrounding bomblets and so i learned to drive a ford prefect utility yeah mom used to do it. <hes> i have a denial dama may now man and we charge with gallon to one of the properties around me boy to help keep the reverend population down. Remember ah five shillings. A pelted is so i had to learn breaker rabbits next so he spent some time there and live the life. I didn't go back to work telegram back to boston. I'm not coming back on gallon along the mario. I'm gonna do some work is see if i can do some jacker rowing. That did you mom because the drinking really got a alabama. I didn't like it that much so i went and worked on the property finley there was a real harsh life but i didn't like it on me but willing to have a bush off on average on i'd get to understand what it's like working alone amari and that like mandi and i'd like to bag egg showing with catching the night and the turtle aiding all that kind of stuff. It was a great experience. We are able to bond with your memo. She just too damaged image to the had been damaged by the whole system and it was impossible for us really to bond so that's why i did leave the router year i i went back to melbourne and others scattered by the new theater there so this is where your life and acting begins being discovered by the new theatre which i think was a leftist. The commonly called the pink theater in theater. Were you a marxist leninist. In those days. Jack nine kept so once you once you had touched at the spotlight as an actor on stage image. Did you lock attack all it all. It's every bit of it. Even the makeup like came in wanting to recruit to play african americans in lorraine hand sprays a raisin raisin in the sun and years later i had at the sidney poitier movie identity. I raised my hand and i followed runny no threat so you loved. Did you absolutely loved it. I loved it tim playing by bo and i couldn't try instantly so used to have a smoking tobacco backstage and put the smog under the highs and not be tearing tom. I got on stage and we did a lot of political cultural revues musicals and that and i oh i thought that this is where on the debate this is just great and that's where i found jack kodjak valve may you fell in love with a man also named jack taunted that make you happy for a while did if as for five years five years you save them on the list that was doomed to file and you what do you. What do you think it was done to file how i never had anybody really loved my bad experience in loving anybody else. Did you say i love you to date straight away in russia the not so what led you to start taking drugs to the point of becoming addicted to them well after jack had left in dim bulla only actors were allowed to drink and you sit there and you just drink be throughout all of these <hes> partner but mexico's is the gatecrasher i think our martineau no binder that had attached to the tower in him and that but always in jail when my mood when i made a movie of it this is when your career is a cat burglar riddick careening the here between these gigs overdoing boots and that you know so it was this talk with alcohol was doing or shy bassetti and and drinking heavily after show especially after the show and burro drinking ahead and i had a motorbike at the time to watch of live anyway out to imboula after varsity a young fella said oh come join me in part of my father's reds lead just across the road next door to the police station nation in drummond street and my father's ridge he's talked to record on football club beautiful wine and i bumped into him doing the log on limbo boaz's could in those days and i bumped into him in to him and he was very upset with my aunt couldn't understand why he was upset with me but he realized i didn't know what the hell he was talking in a bestselling sat me down he said check. Do you remember that not out about city had finished the last night. We had a drink and marketplace. Yeah i remember they have a gym member anything else check nine alcon or jeff. Look we all get along fine about we had an argument either something that we shouldn't have had now given daiva you went into market jack. You went into montgomery draw and you drew outta steak knife and you came into the land. Come up real close to me jack and you bent that north right in front of asia and then you're striving to that and then you went out to my mulligan and you're not full ties jack. You're jumped on your a bike and you're stuck had still a veranda gallon. Get your memory of that. I'm emory saw instantly. I gave up drinking for eight years after that because i i instantly thought it couldn't have been him on of stabbed. <hes> that's what i said to one of the factory people who are new shooting up shoot. Give me a shot of that a forced i editing. Why why did you do well. I want something other than drink drinking. It was hiding making lot bearable for me. Originalism lona guy virginal to and all that kind of stuff and i was somebody that's <hes> mcleod comfortable in my skin in those days taking me many years of discovery to be comfortable with who i am so taking heroin what was euphoria you forget your pie and you can put a you know you'll angst your anxieties. Your fears aside for leaves them. They're always there still anapa nearly side and you're strengthened to play the semi bag under the wrong things even more so to finance this had you actually we started doing burglaries mainly through wealthy suburbs in mobile my cue and the other side of the era invariably when you're doing that. Is it a frightening thing. Are you frightened allege a frightening thing when you actually go up to drive. That's when the frighteners turn on. You know what you're doing now. What i'm doing louis is wrong but on the honor job to rub have steal money. Normally i'd be happy if the cars were unlocked the three or four two cars because in the garage rod locked at odds with getting something out of the top. Sometimes i get thousands out of a car. Thousands fifty-six grandad a one car and thirty six again the next month out of the site. This is really stride. Never reported to the capital fifty-six ironed up to these crimes and the place guy back inside your car broken into and this amount of money stolen and used as years two years later shows black money right you still you still in from another crook neck. Guys who may have you reflect on those break ins now are reflect differently now but at the time you know obviously stolen child our stolen and voice tell todd into this time and i had taking money by stealth and being given some measure of payback. I looked at that way has justifications for the minivan uneven across we're easily justified at simply in the simplest of terms with an indigenous people stole more countries stole. My land stole me from my my. Mom stole my life a national on stealing back. These are the people over in two records have and q and q that are making the rules that are suppressing. My people's votes high i._t. Felt happened every time i had <hes> successful not and i always alleged is discovering a family. Eh overseeing the wealth in the frigid in the in the garage of these large places. There's always special freezes. Infringers injures annette for top-shelf mehta met united silverside and that and i'd live really bad with that or at the time. I knew he found sisters sisters. Still you kind of violating this saif elliot's. I like their safety in that but then again i reflect the violations of mike in i can fight in the past that had been violated raped and murdered. I never right and murdered anybody so it preserves simple as that to me about the not you would busted in a bungalow in q. I had a torch in my mouth gone defunct bedroom drawer next to the bed. The house was empty at the stay in the house was empty and <hes> this cartoon this rap drive and his headlines caught me like a muscular and i heard the black gal hey get you got jim. You know he had apparently jumped out of the car and come flying through the front door and odd and they had tom duck into the cabin and that i saw in you was you're not constantly and he grabbed himself a weapon. You should come out of there are there. I'm armed a nasa came out and i took one look at me and drop the reliever so shocked. It's little diminutive black fellow there in his bedroom. What are you doing. I'm rubbing. You might mike sorry. There's teiken nothing. I'll just start or discounting draw de paul empty your pockets out and she's finished part of the rover random pakbatt in the country to catch him and get caught in love donny years badri may again recall the place now. I want to see him. I so it comes in. She takes one look at mainz. You'll jack jobs keychain bash today the play she'd seen you on stage. He saw me she she recognized. You as an academic didn't try to feel so small. How did it all my god embarrassed so she. Let's go into the kitchen. Have a competency and we'll talk about this and you'll mortified. I was mortified road. And what did she say to you when she gave you a petit well he. He was the signed like-minded two. He'd seen the play at a couple of fans ownership jack. We'll let you go. We won't talk to the police. We don't care what you do the rest most of the neighborhood area them my hung around to see if they had true they would. I didn't want to come out to revisited to check on me. Do you remember we were the ones that he robbed and we didn't allow you to have a chance to rub us because we bashed we let you go never occurred to me but i always wondered if these people would say bastardy the daca me doing right wolf creek clever man all these black comedy janitor david beckmann living this really unusual life at this point. You're acting all the time in theater productions with the pram factory and with the black theater company founded with bob mazza back in the day during this extraordinary things at the same time you kind of a functioning heroin addict and doing cat burglaries to fund that it as well and being homeless at times and then sleeping in nice also tolls and other times. It's a really strange disjointed. Lifestyle told me the story of how you during this period you came to be stocked. Bollocks naked on the stage of of the sydney opera house jackie. How did that have that. Come of what a hoot we're doing cradle hickeys written by michael buddy for the old type theater company and i pulled me up from melbourne and garoppolo fermenting raider and seventeen all tote theatre members all of xi's of people and six gills from redfern dan. I never knew them. I never never been to read fan and i said no my footing but i was amazed if somehow your people would allow allow me to be playing the part of bennelong cash iowa. I find the girls coming up tomorrow dressing room shortly before before we were due to before initiate jack. We've just to being told that we're not going to be paid the performance money and that we have to remind on the rehearsal money. Oh that sounds on girls. Do you want me to speak out for your please mr child. Can you do that. I will where x news ada. The people cross cross. Shall i go up there and <hes> robin. What are the reason. I said you know not not being paid as i mean come on. I you know all they casual jet on casual. Even though you had me to plays and gopal kashmir anyone play and <hes> so i reckon it's right in our heavy drinking and getting into the drugs to and say i can't really do this show because because this is not my country so you have to pay dives girls otherwise i'll peppy doggone back and go back to melbourne. I'm not allowed to be in the country if you're not miami-dade they do and so they waited for the tower and already pick the dog in the bag and snow pissed off when jordan and robin we are and we're gonna pay them jack. I'm so pissed off with them. That is a look. I'm gonna play benner long-legged years jack. Please please reconsider the opera house management management. The management todd dissuade me out alive so we're down there for the first ron john gow believable all we can do and they over on the side of the tiger trap heat up you're gonna do tonight is a strange conversation to be had almost of the stage richard asia man. What what are your main on no man and eight manager not little feller said look check off your garden hose empty on look calendar. You're saying and when you come back. I'll tell you what i suspect. Guys shave their water in a tin tub on stage and our come. All you know what is paul. I believe he's wearing that at a respect for you jack. What are your main at a respect for me while it's plainly the obvious jack that you you're you're you're not you've not been initiated. I said well i'll skin it back back and he said look the waters the water's luke warm jack it'll be called by the time you get back and it'll pop back in this contest covers as it were having conversation covers had backstage manager so did you work on nyc in the end. I got a standing ovation and out of revenge for the bloody minded about women idea. I remember the say they wouldn't be league for dangling over the side of the stage licking their lips girls. They're aroma human jack but here's my impression in the theater. I became an instant revel here sydney and i've always head up chaining problems because of this you know i wear my heart on my sleeve. If it's just wrong for them to have done that a modest slided galvano by doing that but we did the play and it was done industrial with eventually took a long ball for you to kick the habit of sixty or something when you get what persuaded you to kick it. Mari molly program delivered by law ryan peters and dorothy in my last sentence. So what made you want to kick it. What made you want to go to them. The guys go to the mall did naturally if anybody delivered a program in the jail are naturally go to a lab original and boy tweet with my thank information about the potential of what is yet to be discovered about heritage at wide has been denied us and we were so pissed off with what we had been denied us. I personally personally felt that i had i need to read it. The burning embers of gronk drugged up mocked up trainings totally. I had this notion of coming out to my community. Cullingworth fitzroy's fed afoot kadarshian man law man. I needed to be seen as a leading black light in my own. Community community offers beginning to discover who i ought to be what i to become so you wanna do a spider to the dignity of that yes yes yes and i came out. It took me two years to jump off the method on two years to finish off the dock two years to learn going through the elder skills kohl's run through camera guarantee various aries destination seeing other men from all over the continent women in another conference center but may get in to understand the roots of problems of elders and ben glenn s by to build as in their own communities old meeting on the one grandma realized i had this unique voice this unique memory and is unique drive to become cobb shouldn't really truly an elder statesman person in my were. You are acknowledged as an elder statesman. You have been awarded as victorian senior australian of the a year and you are jack. You are acknowledged as an elder as such very much want to be one of those eldest cousin to prisons and to be the kind kind of person you needed when you're young and in prison. Is that possible for you. What do you want them to know that it's it's. It's never ever impossible to reach more liberal. Come with me. Do you ought to be more than you at the moment and that's why tight into prisons trying to impress those that are struggling with their lives the looking for direction looking for support and that i could be that person shen allow me to put you on a ride road. Give you gardens and directions. You say you know who you are these jacket who are you as project child's it totally brewing again fella now beyond reproach. The original deeds not true blue but true black. I've regained that which has been denied me and on all the more powerful and empowered because i know that my roots are firmly stuck in melvin and all across new south wales well. I believe you're a black phil onto really enjoyed this conversation. I think you're extreme. Thank you so much. Thank you might check. Charles is the author of born again. Black villain dot net slash conversations. Is that website. I'm richard fidler. Thanks for listening. You've been listening to a podcast of conversations with richard fidler for more conversations interviews. Please go to the website a._b._c. dot net dot a._u. Slash conversations discover more great a._b._c. Podcasts live radio and exclusives on the a._b._c. Listen up.

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Oakland Conundrum

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Oakland Conundrum

"The philosophical question that we face is are they still the Oakland raiders. At what point have. They stopped being Oakland Raiders. They Hello and welcome to the late political gap as December twenty six twenty. Nineteen the Oakland Conundrum Edition. We we're looking out. We're looking at an audience that seems progressive but not unrealistically unrealistically unrealistically progressive and audience filled with people who work in technology. But not in the terrible technology they work in social the justice but not in the Commie kind of social justice and there are people who are willing to build some housing but not uh willing to sell the whole city out for developers in short. We're in Oakland. California fast is live at the Fox theater later in the heart of downtown Oakland. There may be no there there but there are a lot of you here. I'm David Lots of atlas obscure on my left ups. Is Emily Baz lawn. Of course just as just as Reggie Jackson. Let's and Reggie Jackson made his name with the Oakland A.'s. Then went onto legendary fame in New York with the Yankees. So I'm only Basilan made her bones As a dog at reporter for the Tri Valley Herald covering San Ramon time wishing I was working for the tribute. You and is now gone to great fame in New York City and on her left a man who is a walking conundrum himself breath. How can anyone be so smart and so kind and so handsome John dickerson of CBS sixty? You've forgotten humble on on this special edition of the gap best. We're going to tackle some of the world's most pressing conundrums. We're personal conundrum. So would you rather be exceptional At one thing but awful everything else or just pretty good at everything and we'll have social and political conundrums such as would you prefer to have donald trump as your president president or as your father and later we'll be joined by a special guest you know him from mythbusters Adam savage judge and then we will tackle conundrums from this very audience for our own special slate plus segment went. So let us get started. You have to swap places with the main character from any book who do you swap with. Start Art No. I want you to start okay. So just think how much better hamlet would have gone if affiliate had sunny disposition. I'd I like God it together. Roll with the punches decided to have a sort of more spots. It didn't turn into a wave of really depressed away. Food credence floated away. Wasn't which character would you like to give PROZAC. I WanNa swap and then fix things fatigued. You WanNa hang out with that. He's so moody the home of what he's going to fix this. I'm GONNA fix yeah. Yeah he's really depressed. I'm fixing I. I thought that this question is a challenge. It's like which story would it really help to fix the story and so I really feel I could inhabit affiliate and make it come out better. I'm so much more reasonable. The ball and kind of balance than she is. I mean I don't WanNa be affiliate in the book and then I was thinking about lady Macbeth character. You can really really goes somewhere. Thanks so much that her if these producer do laundry with her but damn spun you would that be a good play at the end you know. He's just like Oh yeah look Mary. The premise of the question which real series. It's not like if we get to hijack the premise of the question. I'm going to approach this evening. Differently John Would you switch places you know. Wait you switch places with our hang out with Swat you. You get to be the main character. Oh Oh 'cause I hang out with would be Ford prefect effect. Because now he always knew whereas towel was two people got that reference. No no nick I would. I would like to be Nick Charles in the thin man because he could disarm a man of his revolver and never spill his Martini not eating. That's good David. I think I've always had a crush on Lizzie Bennet from pride and prejudice. So I think ah I would like to be Mr Darcy because I would be rich and a great at the girl it had kimberly and I then I end up with Bennett. which would be awesome? All right that's a good one although I do feel like in the end of course you're going to pick someone who has superpowers right. I mean you were the most honest and you wouldn't really WANNA be like Lyra in his doctoral Princess Leia. I know that's on a book or Miami Granger or whatever great character from Lord of the Rings which is always your Go-to of course you would if you could do magic. Wouldn't you want to go do magic. Don't think so. No I totally would. I'd rather be I ah airborne who can't do you can you. Can you just not do any work rings time. I opened the door. I'm sorry she brought it up. I didn't bring it up. I didn't have you asked me. I didn't even. It's not even mentioned the Dragon. Maybe that's how I feel right now. I know right emily do give us another one Okay if you could mind Meld with your pet for just one question answer while with the question question. No we are stealing from Clara Jeffries. Twitter twitter feed. Because it's too good to pass up the conundrum. Thank you Clara. While the obvious question Russian for the dog would be. WHO's a good boy I so I have a couple of cats and one of the cats really likes to eat your wax and so I would like to ask the cat like what's up with that? Why are you eating in your wax? What are you what some good tastes good to them? What else would they offer you? Would you ask your pets. You don't have a pet. I used to have a dog and my dog hate. He made me feel that being left alone with like a betrayal and tragedy. So I WANNA ask him like could could you be left alone. Is there any time of day point which it's okay to leave you alone in the house. Maybe it's not so bad. Maybe once I'm gone. The howling stops which is also true with parenting. which animal if it could speak? You could talk to. It would be most annoying. I mean the birds that have really little voices like the tweet bird. I don't WanNa talk to those birds but do you think I hate leaving sound annoying or actually be known both both qualities Teddy Roosevelt had a super high voice. Although he might have actually been annoying to where I started with that sentence there was started with that sentence was the highness of the voice isn't necessarily proof of an inner annoying but then I realized I couldn't. I didn't really follow all the way through. I think dogs would be so annoying. If because they'd be like are you mad at me are you are you. Are you know you're mad at me. They are you are you. Are You mad at me. See this is are you mean. Don't worry I'm here. I'm here I love you guys Eh. You guys have such a jaundiced view. The dog would be like me be unbearable. It'd be well. No Oh because it would always be sincere. It would each time. It would come with the fresh propulsion of sincerity. There's some dog lovers in the audience. What what would your what do you think would might earn? I mean this is such a boring answer hyenas. Obviously because they'd they'd be laughing all the time they'd be laughing in the jokes wouldn't be funny they would be it would be nervous laughter. It would make every situation unsettling and remember. We used to have that colleague who had that laugh nudity like that. Oh my God it was like a report from cannon. You'd be trying trying to do your work in this. Laugh would emerge and and it was really destabilizing. Though it'd be the David resurrection or reincarnation. Not What what do you not whether you believe but which would you prefer. I feel like I was as I asked this question in a previous life so the advantage of the advantage of resurrection is you. You know you get to come back as a person. You're pretty clear you got to come back. Come back as yourself and you know what that is on the other hand it would be so boring to live your life over and over and over it was not living it over your yourself. Is it like groundhog day. You're like oh no you're am again a same mistakes. This is the same senator nation. Each reincarnation would be so fun because you would you would get these different experiences. Be Great to be a cockroach for me. It would only be fourteen days. I would trade up getting to be reincarnated because then I definitely want to be l.. I assume you keep getting. I mean both that you get more bites at the apple so to speak but also that you get to take all these different forms John. I'm very this. Is Mary. Conflicted here your. Your Church has a good history of resurrection. Ask Good. Well Yeah but but man what you gotta go through And then the no one believes you but then people worship you for a really long time. Yes well that does die. That that is appealing well. It all depends on whether you know it or not because because I may have already made the decision boom. ooh But that doesn't tell us what you would prefer well but if I was trying to throw the metaphysical long gull they don't I don't know. I guess reincarnation all right Actually met resurrection. I got so I think okay. Here's one We'll do this. One is an audience. Paul too I think would you prefer to have donald trump as your president or your father. I will be present second. We'll be father. Would you prefer to have donald trump as your president would you. You prefer that Donald Trump as your father interesting so now when I was looking at this question I thought okay. So if it's my father learn he's not the president and so basically I see that audience response as one. That's taking it for the team. That's interesting why was I. Pose this in the cocktail Before the show to a couple of listeners and one of them pointed out something also also good. which is that? You'd also be rich so that would be cool. Are you somebody somebody in the audience said maybe does it. Matter if you're Vonda or tiffany or one of the boys were you I guess would be to be Vonk. Are tiffany right. I mean it's a different different experience. One of those trump's has a hair care. Mike John Careful I would pick him his father. You definitely take it for the team definitely. But I'm not sure you enjoy golf. Love it would be great golf. Warm weather cheated golf to be correct right in the one. WHO's the most approving of general corruption bribery scandals greasing the palm? Dad Did to this family and you could give all the money away to the extent that cause your charity close to know what I'm saying. No no run. It runs a charity already. legit properly acting of failure plausible. You right exactly okay. Okay if you believe there is a God who answers. Our prayers influences our lives. What would you take to convince you that such a God does not exist? And if you don't believe God exists. s what would it take to convince you that God doesn't exist so I do not believe in God and it would take so little to convince me that God exists. Yeah I it's like God if you exist put I don't even have like a million dollars. PUT A one dollar bill in my hand right now right now that it seems like a big ask God has better things to do putting something in your palm. If he's so good everything. It seems like that would be pretty easy. That's what you're looking for bills. Were easier to be your God now in my God is a god of love and forgiveness. What about you I really do believe in God? I don't think about the answering our prayers part. That's not a- At least my kind of Jewish interpretation of God but I believe in God and I don't think it would take them much to convince me that God doesn't exist because I have kind of prime prime mover relatively and my main to convince you that God doesn't does not. Well what does that make sense. Well because Komo my main feeling about my attachment to the idea that God exists is just the world is so complicated and beautiful and terrible all in all these things. That don't feel rational to me. Like how could there have been some spark of creative unexplained energy in the beginning of it and if scientists were able able to really explain how life began. I feel like maybe I would have to admit that I was wrong about that. I feel like they've done a pretty good job but that already already but this I'm saved by my lack of understanding of such science. You're talking about what about you you. I thought we were getting heavy stuff later. On the first page your first page determinist and given that there is so much suffering in the world that goes unanswered And so many people have so much and don't do anything with it to ameliorate that suffering that's Despite the consistent prayers of all of us who pray for improvement in that situation is a pretty strong argument that those prayers are meaningless and yet turn makes yeah And yet all the Ajoy in love and beauty and hope that still exists in the world is the reason that that hasn't changed my view about God so I guess it's the strongest argument I can think of and I haven't succumb to it yet. I think it does make a lot of sense to be easily convinced in one direction at the other right I mean there. We don't have proof obviously but it seems like a big thing to rule out like we don't it's hard to eliminate it but maybe you don't tale that way. No I think it's hard to I think you cannot prove the non existence of God. I think it would be very easy for God to prove God's existence God doesn't bother. It doesn't bother skeptical to John. Give us a under. Who would you David Plots? Rather be locked locked up or hunted for sport. We really liked this question a lot. Okay we'll do. This is an audience. Poll so start thinking I really am CLAUSTROPHOBIC. I really really hate to be inside. I'm assuming it locked up for. Life is a life sentence or the period that you're handed for sport would be the equivalent period that you're locked up like you have to think of it as not in our sport if you're a hundred for sport for like two years examiners. Yeah Yeah Yeah okay. You're in let's make it like twenty years ago hundred sport where you if you make it to the end of the field of play your free twenty years versus like an hour well depends how fast you go and whether they get you with the Arrow within the first five minutes By the way when you're sport don't you figure it'll be with range weapons. That aren't like it won't be rightfully games. Yeah Okay so all right twenty years as if you'd said if you've said like fifty years I would definitely take hunted for sport and if you'd said five years I would definitely definitely take being locked up so twenty years is a hard number I think I would take content for sport. I really do not want to be. I don't want to be locked up well and then of course the question this is. What kind of hunted for sport? You know I mean you got to begin. Big Lee deal rerunning in sand and all the rest but dangerous man Dan people chasing. Hey Yeah what about you I. The I also tend to be claustrophobic. Got An idea of being locked up makes me really anti but thinking it through. I think the more rational answers to take being locked up. I was imagine being like kidnapped. And you you know really held some terrible set of conditions in which case absolutely I'd rather run around even if the lions are going to be in the end I don't like being with other people much so can we make it twenty five. No I don't know a period of contemporary of time would be Kinda. Yeah exactly exactly I. Let's let's do this as an audience. Poll so I will ask if you'd rather be locked up second second. If you'd rather be hunted for sport would you rather be locked up. Would you rather be hunted for. Sports Act is some of those people sounded like they wanted to do the hunting. Yeah you work for the Gab. Fest comes from Google from Connecticut to California Mississippi to Minnesota millions of American businesses are using Google tools to grow online businesses streiter bikes and rapid city. 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Less is more with native. Fewer simpler ingredients the even offer an unscented deodorant formula and Baking Soda Free Formula For those sensitivities activities and. There's no risk to try these products because native offers free returns and exchanges in the US for twenty percent off your first purchase visit native Deodorant Dot Com and use Promo Code Gabfest during checkout. That's twenty percents off your first purchase when you visit native Deodorant Dot Com and use Promo code gabfest during check out onto the second segment or social segment. Here we go. How do you tell your best friend that the person he introduced you as the love love of his or her life their way is actually a disaster waiting to happen? uh-huh oh my God is such a terrible dilemma dilemma. Have you actually had this happened number. I had a friend. This happened to with a sibling. That the siblings spouse the perspective spouse with somebody that this might my friend thought was unacceptable disastrous and he he said something to lane and destroy destroy the relationship and anything for that reason. I think we don't know the mysteries as of The heart wants what it wants and yet if you really believe that and you think there's some chance of fending it off it'd be so roll hard to be quiet and also is the person asking for your opinion so I know someone who this happened to. Would you know when they're asking for your one answer. They they want. That's right that's right and that is to be hunted for sport. But here's the question could you waigel. Is there a back door to doing this. which is that if it's not about the qualities of the person? They've introduced the love of their life. But it's about the quality of your brother or your friend in other words. Is there selection of this person demonstrative of a weakness that they have that about which they should be Dan elaborate reuss which would be better or diplomatic way to go about it but special non convinced. I specialize in elaborate ruses. Okay okay well then no statewide all you have to stay quiet all right. I'm going to phrase this pejoratively. Is there anyone out there who thinks you should not stay quiet speak up. There's a group think you should speak up. I would. I would be interested in hearing an example of how that it went well but you can. We'll take that off line John. Would Bob Dylan go to Simone biles or would simone biles go. Oh Bob Dylan in other words. WHO's the coolest person in the world that everyone must actually go travel to to pay homage to David David? You have specific views on this question. Well I think it's obviously depends on and cultural context and I think the OBAMAS I think the Obama's were that for a period. I think in two thousand eight to two thousand ten. They're was his way in which anyone the obamas just like the little finger. Everyone would show up now now. Is there anyone who fits that Bill Hall. There's no I don't think they're beyond say. Maybe when you say it's definitely the answer to this question. What is the context of this meeting is go searing concert or is it to go see wants to talk talk to you like? Is there any way that she would come to. You know there is not. There's no one who has to go to. Except maybe her mom. That's it everybody comes to see. Do you think anyone that has to go to the Bob Dylan has to go see Bob Dylan Bob. Dylan's like fuck it. I don't care air right. MISANTHROPIC and Simone biles Beyond say Bob Dylan it does too. I think everybody has to be interesting John. Do you agree with that. What what is Bob have to do? Because he has to go through the the question of who is going to make the move who's GonNa take the overture be slightly inconvenienced to as it. I think he's I think he would go see her. Maybe by peaking through a keyhole down upon his knees Oh questionable so you know it's a one person got you it's actually that's that song is actually. Actually I think about that. Obama Obama with Obama goes beyond saying Jay Z. went to see Obama remember. I think that's true but I don't know today today the OBAMAS would be like. Oh can we got that depends on. I guess maybe perhaps not but his loss man not. What's he doing if you don't have to worry about okay? He's he's chill he forgives see. What's the most awkward professional setting leading to have to extricate yourself from Lynn? I haven't I have a specific answer for this. I'LL START I go. Yes that would be good answer is you may have had that experience of being on a video conference call where you're on a video conference call and you forget I get that you're on the video conference call and you start to do things that you definitely should not do when other people are looking at you like picking your nose like making aching like texting other people like like you know these examples are there other examples And that is a bad situation because you cannot is. There's no good way to explain why you're doing that. That's that's very awkward. That's bad that's really. What about? There's also the problem of like your. I was thinking more of like a social situation and where like everyone's drinking you're uncomfortable. There's something going on. That's like more out of work. That feels like you don't want to be Or what with the. What if the person sitting next to is watching something? They shouldn't be watching and you have to get away. I don't here's one that I was recently. Nia part of. which is you're in a small meeting setting and the person sitting next to you has fallen dead asleep and and end and their particular way of falling asleep they escalate the snoring? So they're gonNA get busted soon and really happen to you. That's it's never happened to me. CBS You that was not now is not the context. But here's here's the conundrum to do you wake them and them. Yeah but what if if you wake them and they and they flail about then you put them in a position because it could have through the rest of the meeting. Maybe you try to really gently nudge. Them that will that that is about one. Though that was that was once teaching class with someone who fell asleep not the person I currently teach with and it was really really. I have never been so mortified. I was so worried they were teaching. Yeah that daughter goes to Yale Much how did this happen was it. And the first part of the second and then they fell asleep while all they were co teaching with someone the other person and the students could be taking up a lot of oxygen in the room. It's interesting yes. Yeah exactly but then I saw I saw the students notice and I got really uncomfortable. It was setting emily. You are made an absolute monarch of nation sometime between years thirteen fifty and sixteen fifty but retain all of your modern knowledge and values values. Do you keep being a king or queen or very fluid between thirty thousand six hundred eighty or do you propose that the society abandoned the monarchy Turkey and shift to a representative democracy. So does this question of Oak for anyone else. The MONTY PYTHON skit in which King Arthur shows up at like says I'm your king and they're like no you're not there they called. There are workers collective autonomous workers back in the system so I think that it would be a mistake to imagine especially in thirteen fifty. See that people were ready to take on democracy. I mean we're barely ready now. So I think you have to build up your civic institutions. I and make sure that you have I. I was drawn in between because otherwise the whole thing can fall apart and be even worse than continuing with your mom would be a benevolent. Would you would you start with you. Build you start with the justice system. Would you share things circuit Queen Elizabeth. She did a really good job of this. What did Queen Elizabeth Do? Oh Shit well. She encouraged Shakespeare. That was very helpful like she did other things too. She collected taxes. Well that she build up other inbetween civic institutions. John Would you install democracy as we know from the attempts to install democracy in in illiberal countries. It sometimes there's tissue rejection and so would you as a single monarch have the ability to line everybody up plus once you get a little taste of power. It's really hard to give it up. There would be things you could suddenly fix. You could try. You could put people on a path to democracy but I don't think just walking away from your rulership responsibilities would be the right. I think we we saw this movie. What was the? What's the Hilary Mantel? Book about Thomas Cromwell Trilogy Will Fall. Yeah Yeah but he did. Cromwell is like this person who is trying to put modern me. He's a modern character. Who put back? And the time of Henry the eighth and so he's trying to bring in modern customs modern economy modern religious tolerance. So that's his Mecca. So that's what you would try to do within the within the framework of an absolute monarchy. So here's the question question. What emily given all of your modern knowledge and so forth? Would you introduce I to the citizenry. Right let's see you need. Well I I think you you need people of different religious persuasions to get along with each other right. You need less tribalism so you need some interfaith council first. Let's convenient to stop hating and killing each other. I think that's actually Super Newport interfaith. But wouldn't what piece of knowledge wouldn't you have some piece of knowledge. That would seem like magic to them in thirteen fifty and therefore if you could roll out at the beginning people would think you're that much more magical and therefore you'd have even more power to convene you're meeting at which everyone's going to Napa nap. Let's could you introduce them basic due process breath. I'm talking about some some whizbang thing we've learned. Yes yes plumbing thing you think through to democracy because everyone like the the turn the lights on and everyone feels steadier and then they have. How's The leisure time to start worrying about voting? The route to the human soul is through the stomach one way or the other or let's let's audience. Poll this one would do if you were or an absolute monarch. Would you bring democracy or would you continue to be An absolutist ruler We'll start with bring democracy. Would you bring democracy. Perc- those benighted people. Would you remain an absolute ruler more resounding branding than I would have thought a lot of democracy skeptics. Maybe if he'd asked this question a few years ago God no more balanced response Okay well this one. I think sort of relates to the last question. Would you rather be in charge of deciding the substance of society's laws or the procedures spy which those laws are enforced. Wait the procedures by which they're made or enforced this enforced. You can reinterpreted if you want. This is a this is we have. Would you rather be article one or would you rather be the president or Congress. Well it depends. What kind of president would you rather or be? Freedom and equal protection of the laws are due process of the laws both in the fourteenth amendment is their plumbing. How do you make sure that it works? Hold people accountable. If it doesn't what's the LIA more about substance I I mean I think if you have terrible procedures the substance will be worth less but I still I feel like the substances more inspiring aspirational for people who start with the substance and that makes them more likely to create the procedures. It gives a mistake in the procedures without the substance the processes to arid and so people don't value it enough. What if you just decide side as most modern presidents have basically you can interpret the law as you've choose to because you have the ability to enforce it then you can use your benevolent interpretation of the Law to get actually the result you want so you have the muscle to do it? Whereas before you're just trying to persuade people through the brilliance of your law setting I I mean I think if you're doing that too for your own short term gain? That's not such a good idea but are you talking about the worders benevolent new. No I'm talking about you're right. It's enforcement vs creation. So I take all the bad laws that are created by that silly article one legislature. And I just choose to interpret the my way the enforcement power people have to listen to me. Yeah well not supposed to be how it works. We're only given two options options. I see so. Would I rather be the person who had the power to interpret and enforce. Would I rather be right what I'd rather be executive branch the Legislative Branch haw. Aw this is an interesting question to ask right now because the Supreme Court is probably on the brink of really changing how much the executive branch guests to do on its own. I mean the executive branch really has so much power right now so I think if you're just answering based on what how effective you could be you would choose the executive executive branch John You have the power to go back in time and change the result of one presidential election. I'm not Twenty Sixteen Twenty sixteen. which do you choose? I would choose has been thinking about this for the month. No no no there there. There are a couple but actually this would be with somebody who is more skilled would have really more clever answer but they election election of eighteen. Seventy six in which rather be Hayes beats is given the election over Tilden Hayes. The Republican tilt in the Democrat. Tilden Beats Hayes. But four states five states are kind of up in the air. The Twenty Democrats in those states give they give gift Tornado electoral votes to I got this right. Haze haze becomes president on the promises that he will remove troops from the south and that basic reconstruction reconstruction ends and the rights. That were given to african-americans basically end there until nineteen sixty five right. That was my answer except I forgot all the names dates. That Josh actually knew so. Good one though it's just it's it's insane. I mean we think we live in crazy now. That was so. Is it reassuring that that happened. And it was terrible and the country trey still continued or is it a show how really terrible things can get him. People will tolerate it well and as you know I mean the country continued but there was deep and profound and the tonnage of suffering and lost hope as a result of that is incalculable incalculable. So it wasn't worth it. The country continued Well I guess the alternative is civil war two point. Oh so I don't know but I guess I guess gets the point is that this much awful which some people can look at it and say that's how much more could be? I mean so yes the country through survive but man. It was when emily another candidate which is eighteen twenty eight because Andrew Jackson would have been a really good president president to just kick off the list. How about you I would pick is going to be a perverse? One may not be popular with this crowd. I would pick nine hundred ninety two. Why would had George H W Bush win a second term? David's feelings about George H.W. Much about Michael. Great great chance to maintain a Republican Party. That was an establishment Republican Party. That behaved in reasonable. Rational weighs in at that loss. We have the hyenas air that loss with a crucial to push the Republican Party. Eighty further to the right it also Bush's raising taxes. He had raise taxes and that was the reason he lost a lot of Republican support and it made Republicans believe you could never move to raise taxes again. Why are you pointing me because I want to associate and then disagree okay? I I want to agree and disagree so I agree with all that the only thing is you have the parallel thing happening which is Gingrich in ninety four which happens completely outside of the of of Bush and but that's in the context Clinton's already won the election and they have they have they have Clinton to translate against Gingrich. Does it Gingrich doesn't become. The speaker occurred that sooner in that same way but Gingrich's planned to take over democratic control. The house which has been going on for forty years exists and has been going on for years and years and years before leaving taking advantage of these really powerful social forces right. He's been he's been attacking the system for long before even Bush but I think with a moderate presidential administration that is slightly cooled down it is less effective and this establishment stays robust longer in a way that would probably be healthy for the country. Gingrich doesn't have the foil of Clinton to win in ninety four. Yeah I think it's still but I I'm I says yourself with your. Are you admire that. You did sue all right. Support for the gabfest comes from butcher box. If you're looking to eat well and spend less time and money at the grocery three store in the New Year. 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Just put your box dot com slash gap best or use Promo Code Gab fest at checkout that's butcher box dot com slash gap fest or use Promo Code Gabfest at Checkout Dearest Oakland. Our guest has worked as an animator graphic designer carpenter projectionist film developed television presenter set designer toy designer and gallery owner owner so if he cannot answer these conundrums nobody can please join us. In welcoming the author of every tools a hammer. You may know of him. As a former host of mythbusters Adam savage thank you. It is so difficult to be backstage age. Well you guys are batting around these questions and your response to whether you'd bring representative democracy just upended my the whole idea of humanity. No Dr Yeah it is pretty dark. was there another question. Point of new arrival privileged asked That you would like to weigh in on from the previous round. Truly feeling I would I if I was back back in time. I'd I show them how to make a motor and then I would bring representative democracy because they would bow before you going. Man Motor Kings Kings. Yeah and then it'd be like Sia what what how what would be the oil. What would the power source be for the motor? I teach them how to make a battery out of a pile. And then we start to like. I remember what I could about battery technology and hope that people were smarter than me. There's a lot of fs. They're welcome come to my life Adam Sir if you could swim in any liquid other than water what liquid would you choose. So you know that I. They have actually swum in a pool full of syrup. And what was that. Thomas Moore okay. So there is a myth that you can swim Justice Fast Syrup as you can in water the idea being that because Europe service thicker it slows. You down but because it's thicker it gives you more to push off of and the myth is is based on the theory that those two forces cancel each other and thus swimming in syrup is just as fast as swimming in water Jamie and I actually went out to the Alameda. County sheriff's department. They let us dig two two hundred foot long troughs and fill them with varying degrees of viscous syrup we used Guar Gum and Maple Syrup too expensive the way to exit. That's literally millions of dollars worth of zero. One wants to be Maple Syrup but continue their our prime rings in Canada hiding that much syrup and I'm not kidding at all And it's cold and feels really just a spunky as you would would imagine but yeah no. They canceled each other out totally. I swam just as fast as they did in water. But if you gave me any liquid I'd love to swim in honey honey. That would be weird. We honey honey yes. That's a good idea and thought of that John Gin. Although you'd have to fill the pool up a lot the ship keep refilling could cut. It never always drink gin with the mark they can help you. I wonder what it would be like any different from different if you let. I didn't do the field different texture. Life I don't know that's true it would. Would it be any different than Friday night. It's thinner than water so it would. I think it would feel very different and you'd weighed differently in it. I think you'd sink like a stone really I often do. Yeah the third one if you're if you're in if you're in like an oil or served you float more because I think that what's the thickest thing what's the thickest liquor yeah thick thick thick you you know. I think it'd be hard to cold honey has to be about one of the thickest most viscous war yeah exactly or an an old bottle of liquid prell with the Pearl what would you what would you doing. Why don't I thought about? This is not saying good things about me. When wouldn't you be kind of interested this woman blood and see what that's like? You're you're not. You're not the only vampire in the room. Somebody body out there when it was. I asked said Blood San Milk. I think that was just like a moment of yeah I would be interested in that I would not for the record. That blood is only the most minute bit actually thicker than water so feel very much like swimming water except it would smell like I was that that makes sense right. Was that ever a myth. You busted that blood is thicker than water honor. No it wasn't. It was just a fact I came across one of my books. That blood is like point zero one three five percent thicker than water. Also it is thicker than water. The just a little bit. I never understood that expression in Germany there is. I don't understand the why understand the blood part it's like. Oh Yeah we're we're brothers so we have blood flooding kept. What's the water? What the hell? Who's who brought water into the conversation? Start the most obvious liquid. Compare what else would you compare and also everything else might be like. Blood is thicker than honey. No it's actually not only really all right next one here in five hundred years which is most likely to be a religion Harry Potter or Star Wars Star Wars. Are we at more movies. We must be lost TRACK OF THE STARS BRAD entirely dim awareness. That there's one coming out right. What's what's is going to be a religion? Do you think I mean there's so much Harry Potter has really entered our sense of of our mythology. It's in our mythology starrewards. Also methology will we'll or is there some other pop- popular culture that will be a religion. Look I believe that jet. I is already in a recognized religion in New Zealand. But that's just because New Zealand Eland is also you know. Say Lord of the Rings No. I'm leaving well. Well you got once you tee up New Zealand. You're really you're pretty close Most of what we know about the devil is actually doesn't come from the Bible. It comes from the inferno. So that's your point right. So is there anything adjacent that would that would and so probably star wars as more adjacent to a fixed it existing religion then all right so I'm GonNa agree with Star Wars. I don't know I'm the question that I I. The neither of them are going to be a religion action. Heretic you come home very tired. You're wearing a comfortable sir. You take off your pants pressure. Teeth go to bed wearing shirt in the morning. You're running late. You're feeling lazy. Whatever you wear the shirt again? Have you worn the shirt. One time two times three times the important conundrums that you are on stage for savage. I'd say one time because I'm applying the jeans rule because I wear jeans for like ten days of time do you take them off in between probably but then you feel like you're wearing them one time just because it's ten days in a row. Well I do. I actually get like they get familiar to me in the way the each one has its own shape of your body even when they're not attached to it it anymore favorite thing this how many did not do on out of so well but I feel sure that of all of us on the stage. You are the least likely to actually do this. The genes are the shirt. Both Tom Anything that involves. I was GONNA ask Adam Hygiene so I always I think that basically genes are wearable Napkins. So completely right after how many days where you wear jeans and you know you got to you got tomato mustard. It goes how many days of wearing jeans normal eating patterns do the do the genes transfer from being genes into actually being Napkins how much food you have to wipe owner jeans. I'm going to replace the word Napkin with shop rag and say that It's almost arbitrary when you stop wearing them. Unless I'm working with something like motor oil or cooling fluid in which case the genes are done at the end of that not day. Okay I think he warned the shirt once I do too and I think this is a totally okay thing to do and should really we should encourage it more and we should also realized that people just do things like this all the time and it's fine but if you you mean not bathes I need to say yeah. Not Not. They've you don't have that. We are culture in which people are constantly showering and constantly changing clothes and constantly unnecessarily imagining that they smell bad. When you're like it's probably fine most of the time we're blessed to have a word with audience? Call this question of whether you wear the shirt once or three times. Have you think you wore the shirt or I don't even know how you get twice. How would you even even get twice? Okay all right okay. We'll do once twice three times. How many people have a shirt once? How many people think twice three times literally understand three times? It's because you wanted to sleep in separate time okay. No the second time I'm is you're wearing it in the morning. When's the third time the third time if you wear too so you wear it Iran? Now I'm wearing the shirt wear to bed and and then I'm GonNa keep wearing it in the morning so the wearing Tibet is the second time in the morning is the third time. But how do you get to you. Just don't count the sleeping. Yeah yes thank you kept it on the next day. But here's the thing. Implicit in the two is that wearing. It is a daytime activity. And they're like you're going somewhere but then that means shirt or not to be worn while you sleep they don't even have an identity while you're sleeping therefore nightshirt nightshirt. It's a separate separate. Thank wearing a night shirt. If you were a nightshirt during the two days and one night you'd only be wearing a night shirt one night. That's a good point. Yeah it's great okay. Would you rather never be able to shout or never be able to whisper to the proper answer to this is that it's okay to give up shouting and like that's the more polite answer and the more socially acceptable answer. The truth is I think I almost never whisper. Obviously this is like really I overly loud as and it is a it is a thing that people in my life deal with and I would give up shouting in a minute over with lately mortified. By how much you shout and how much people say that. Yeah it just comes out and then and sometimes I see that people are shying away from the volume coming out of me and I I I feel you. I would also like to say that I'd give up Xiaoning Downing but then how would I communicate with my children. I would definitely give up Johnny because the most effective people we're most terrifying or not the people who shout at you. They're the ones who like. I'd like to see you right now. Yes so nice. Low threatening voices Jason Great. Yeah Yeah and for children an Air Horn yet. True all right. I see. This is really a question for you at a so. Let's say you're basically incompetent person. Is it better for you to learn how to fix ext things like fix the toilet around your house Even if you don't do it very well or to pay professionals to fix it for you and then use your time do what you baths energy the moments most money well. I'm really biased. So this answer demonstrates all of my bias that you should learn to fix something and why why why should learn to pick something because as a serial gather of skills who is I am mediocre at everything I know how to do do I have found that his all cross applicable so there's no downside learning a new thing what you learned while learning is is a applicable to everything else you'll ever learn again in your life and you have a richer and more fulfilling life along the way indeed. It's totally the steep. Steve Martin says that the beginning of his career someone said to him. You will eventually use everything you've you've ever learned in the pursuit of your career and my truer words have rarely been spoken. I think I totally agree with that. And the the the people who think you should pay people to do these things for you. It's basically an economist view of the world. which is like we're trying to maximize efficiency and it is more efficient for you to pay a plumber to fix plumbing then for you to waste the time to do it? But it's it's it's kind of. I was thinking about this and I was thinking well. Would you tell somebody who can't write poetry. Who's someone who's a plumber? Who wants to write poetry three? Don't write poetry. Leave it for the poets. And it's like no you tell the plumber go write poetry. You should even if it's bad because it will bring you. We'll bring you something like the police who wants to write poetry not a not a plumber. Who wants to write poetry not a plumber? Who's like Oh my God? Are you serious. I can't do this asked. Why are you trying to make this feel about fixing have you ever? Have you ever mastered something like that. And you're like oh I'm glad I did it. I feel so much much better than I've done it. What sense of accomplishment I have even though I'm never gonNA apply it to writing my cool New York Times magazine stories that at least now now I can I can? I change a lightbulb on very rare occasions. Had that experience but I have so much more often tried to fix. Something gotten incredibly frustrated and given up Waco feel in hamlet right. I guess I can't reenact feel elliot devolves like changing tire fixing the toilet. Anything like I'm deeply. I'm very much in the appreciation. You can show for someone else in your life with. I got it fixing things if you're not. I'm really good at that so in awe. Please paint this fence. I I I. I wish I knew more things. jack-of-all-trades master of none. I think that'd be great. You know the second half of that phrase though often better than a master of one. Oh Oh did not know that. That was good right. Were you one more question here and then go to lightning around so this You can pick a one one member of the Beatles as your ally and Zombie Apocalypse. Which one do you pick? Yeah it's George. Of course parison. Why he's the most I think he's was the beetle most attached to reality as it was? I'm basing that on nothing but my intuition and four seconds of thinking you want an apocalypse the person attached to reality because I now now I know you're making quick decision editor all life and death. You want someone who is dealing with things as they are not as they would wish them to be. And the whole the thing with Eric Clapton. He's that sees. He's got some grit from A- also. John Basically in bed naked with Yoko like he's not getting out of bed. ZOMBIES already super sketchy but Paul McCartney so chirpy upbeat like entertaining. At every step of the apocalyptic Dick way well. Maybe he'd be serenading while you're killing zombies. Yeah Good morning good but he has some some pent up anger at always having his name being second second but in the apocalypse everyone's dead he could be first second laugh every no. I'm saying you'd want him on your side of his pent up anger. Yeah can you ask number four David I think before. Remember Four. Okay what does it say that. None of us brought ringgold that conversation. He's GonNa outlast them all. Ah which means he could be as Ambi- this'll be our last one for lightning round domesticated. Pets have now become the overlords of the earth. Would you rather be ruled by. Cats or dogs dugs John. No No. It's Adam this this one's a softball because cats would be awful leaders super means yeah. I'm scared of cats. If you die in your house your cat's going to start eating your face right right away. Your dog would totally the Dell. What he's totally wait? Awhile he's GonNa what the cat is like. Oh here's fresh meat good order. They were framed this story wrong. They will both each you. Just the cat will enjoy it. The dogs are just thoughts. Of unconditional love. That's exactly what I wanted that as a leader. Oh yes it'd be chaotic but much more fun also so the cats are so damn indifferent. They'd be like pestilence. Dogs in the late sixties and the cats are like the worst of the nineteen eighties. What country all like parachute pants? Zippers a country or the general feeling the catcher. Some super plastic addict Singapore know something more authoritarian than that in an Kleptocratic. That's interesting corrupt and authoritarian have. Have you seen my asshole lately. I really your cat would be asked if you're could talk. That's what he'd ask you dollars would be what what the dogs would be Italy. The government fall minutes. It would just be a party. Oh Yeah Food Great. That'd be awesome wine. The light would be gorgeous and everyone would be happy. Are there any other animals we want to introduce into this question. mccray rats would be great rats. Rats would be that'd be. I would be amazing paralyzed. Familial no they just like really organized differently really social rats are great. I had several rats as pets. They're fabulous but aren't but but aren't terms but aren't most of the terms that describe governments and bureaucracies that go wrong related to rats. That's just a misunderstanding. Rat's Nest Surat rat fucking job. What rats leaving sinking ship sensible behaviour? Not If they can swim all right. We're GONNA do a lightning round. Then we're GONNA WE'RE GONNA go to your audience conundrums all right the lightning round super high speed super high stakes Would you rather eat only fruit or only vegetables vegetables fruit vegetables audience fruit or vegetables first. Fruit Bengals Okay Star Wars Star Trek. Can we know. She Ain't undoing star Star Trek Star Wars back barely watched half a star trek episode in my whole life. Sorry at least I washed the first three or so. Oh Star Wars movies. The answers Galaxy Quest Spaghetti or lasagna. lasagna what LASAGNA. But I don't like either of the very much. What wait what? I'm not really that into Pasta lasagna. Now clearly see for John. It's better to be. It's better to be up front about that instead of being an impostor backs spaghetti audience. I SPAGHETTI SECOND PASTA SPAGHETTI. Ah LASAGNA BIG LASAGNA nitty okay this is a good one. Would you rather working the trump administration or in a coal mine as a coal miner. I would rather work. In the trump administration call my trump administration nations trump administration. Would you rather have the lights on or off. If you knew. The room was full of spiders. I like spiders and on weight. You like spiders spider. That's what the viewing but still on definitely I am. I don't feel like this is much better for me than anything dead. I don't like dead anything or like cockroaches. Much more upsetting snakes totally too. I like snakes to snakes and spiders are okay like snakes dislikes pasta. That's a good got dating panda. Also and infrequent shower lights honor often on never turning them off ever on. I used to hate spiders but we actually did an episode in which I had to stick my hand in a chamber with hundreds of spiders until one of them bit me and it wasn't that bad that felt like someone touched my hand for a second your last one What will be the last line of your obituary? He was survived by his wife and two children. That's what what I want the last one of mine too because the very last day I more than anything else I care about my children surviving me. I know it'd be nice if my husband's revived me too. But especially my children. I feel like that's the most important thing that you could have in your obituary minors. 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TechStuff Classic: TechStuff Goes on a Voyage

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TechStuff Classic: TechStuff Goes on a Voyage

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APP ON APPLE PODCASTS or wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome to textile production from iheartradio. Hey there in welcome to tech stuff I'm your host Jonathan? Strickland executive producer with iheartradio and a love, all things, tech and today we're going to listen to a classic episode titled Tech Stuff Goes on a voyage it's about the voyager program and this episode originally published on April Twenty Fourth, two, thousand thirteen. The Voyager program is one of those really fascinating space programs that I absolutely loved learning about so I hope you guys enjoy this classic episode. The first thing we wanted to talk about was. I've kind of what was the purpose. Of the voyager missions, which by the way are still going? On right now, but we wanted to talk about the time line of the missions, and then we'll get into more details about the spacecraft itself, and then follow that up with a discussion about the science that has been discovered by these amazing spacecraft so going back to May nineteen seventy-two. That's when NASA begins to fund emission, though involve designing building and launching spacecraft. Spacecraft, that are meant to explore the outer planets of our solar system, and even before this back in nineteen, sixty five and engineer named Gary Flanders noticed that sometime in the nineteen seventies, the outer planets would be aligned planetary alignment in such a way as to make this very possible, and this was you know the space program was going and booming and it was. Kind of an incredible. Alignment of the stars that allowed us to right when we had money to do this stuff. Right so so I mean that planetary alignment is really what makes the voyager missions possible because you know if the if the plants were in such an alignment so that let's say the. Missile. They're still aligned properly. They're just not. Viable for us to explore share. Let's say let's say like Jupiter's on one side of the sun, and Saturn's on the other side of the sun than it would be really tricky to design a spacecraft. Could explore both. And this particular alignment isn't going to occur again for another one hundred seventy six years, so you had to jump on the opportunity, and so in one thousand, nine, hundred eighty two, even though it was still years away from when this alignment would occur, NASA gets on the ball and starts to design this and in one, thousand, nine, hundred, seventy, seven, they are finished with design and the spacecraft they had been designing was. was under the working name the Mariner Jupiter Slash Saturn nineteen seventy seven, but they decided to rename it little bit mouthful. Yeah, they called it later and on August twentieth, Nineteen, seventy seven Titan Centaur. Rocket carried one of the two voyager spacecraft from Cape Canaveral Florida into the atmosphere, and ultimately into space, which one was it that will announce I. It was voyager to that launched I which one launched second voyager one. Okay so. So this this was basically for PR purposes because the the way that they were designed voyager, one was going to do to stricter. It was going to reach Jupiter I. So start sending back images of Jupiter. You know fingers crossed if all goes well I and NASA about that the public would be incredibly confused if if. Voyager one launched first, but got to the planet's second, whereas some for some reason lodge second Gig to the planet, I is less confusing. No one was paying attention to the launch. Goodness knows no one pays attention to to salon. Yeah, but one thing. You're actually able to watch while you're still on earth. It still makes me tear up every single time. Anything gets launching. Only just. Humidity's so beautiful. That's pretty awesome when you think about what it takes to get something into space, it is phenomenal, the amount of engineering and ingenuity that went into that but yesterday so the Voyager two launches I. The voyager wine launches about sixteen days later, in fact, not about six days later it launched on September fifth, Yep, nineteen, seventy seven and it's using the same sort of rocket Titan Centaur rocket, which by the way love it. Anyway. The initial purpose was for these to explore the giant planets in the outer solar system. Those giant planets are Jupiter. And Neptune. Pluto of course Nada giant planet it does not get the treatment. For these missions forget you Pluto, and there were two separate trajectories that were being used voyager. One of course was designed so that the trajectory was chosen so that it would reach Jupiter I. Then move onto Saturn. And then get flew off to head toward interstellar space. Joop Voyager two. Would do a visit to all four of the giant planet right, so that's why the you have the different timelines, because even though voyager launched I for it to be able to hit this trajectory where it was going to pass by each of the four giants. It had to do that at a different angle. So, that's the and if you were to look at a model of the solar system and just spend the plants around at the different rates you would see. Oh, yeah, now. I understand. You would have to be really particular about when you would launch and how you would launch for it to be able to hit all of these points properly amazing engineering that's required and just math. This required to make sure that you've got the right the right timing. Yeah, and it was. It was kind of shady, you know. Know basically until it happens, no one was sure that it was going to happen right, and and it's interesting. Because the voyager spacecraft used the plants themselves to help. Make sure they got to where they needed to go, but we'll get into that. It's pretty awesome, though so moving down the time line, they've launched in one thousand, nine, hundred seventy seven almost two years later on March Fifth Nineteen, seventy nine voyager one has its closest approach to Jupiter and it captures a lot of images of Jupiter and Jupiter's moons. And then July ninth, nineteen, seventy nine, so same year. That's when voyager two passes closest to Jupiter Then we go to the next year on November, twelve, thousand, nine hundred eighty voyager one has close to Saturn, and then it begins its trip out of the solar system, saying so long suckers and starts heading off into the. Sunset accept it can't be at opposite of the ten set right. The sunrise either normally be the opposite of a sunset. Son diminishing into a Tinier Ball I guess. Not Nearly as poetic, but August twenty, fifth, nine, hundred, eighty, one, that's when voyager to gets its close approach, the standard, but of course to is not flung off into interstellar space right away instead it is then headache toward urine s, which it passes closest to on January twenty, fourth nineteen eighty-six, so it took five years for voyager to go from Saturn to urine tests. And it would take. It would take a few more years before like five well three more years I'm sorry three more years before. I would get close to Neptune but before we get to that point. Nine hundred eighty seven voyager to observes these. Supernova nineteen eighty-seven eight. One thousand nine hundred eight voyager, returns the first color images of Neptune so that voyager to that is, so it's getting closer to Neptune in one, thousand, nine, hundred eighty. It's still not the closest it will be, but that's when we first start getting color images of Neptune back from voyager. And, on August, twenty, fifth nineteen, eighty nine voyager two has its closest approach to Neptune and that concludes the primary mission of the of both voyager spacecraft that primary mission, being the exploration of those outer planets so the cost of the missions. From nineteen seventy-two to the time when they finish their mission, their primary mission was eight hundred sixty five million dollars. Now NASA points out that if you break this down by the population of the United States and year over year, that's about eight cents per person per year so. Too Shabby essentially saying look really in the grand scheme and it sounds like a lot of money, but in the grand scheme of things. This is just a tiny investment, so look at these pictures to center. Keep. Calm and keep exploring is what they said hate that name. Anyway so the that that entered sixty five million dollars included everything include the expense of the launch vehicle's the radioactive power source which will get to talk about a little bit and and just the maintaining of the missions. By nineteen, eighty nine voyager one was heading toward interstellar space. And on Valentine's Day in nineteen ninety, we get the final images from voyager, which is portrait of the solar system. Happy Valentine's Day. I gave you the filler system sweet, not shabby. Three days later, February. Three days in eight years later. On I should read the year before we. You said there were seventeenth nineteen ninety eight. I have all my notes in front of me. It's just you know. My typing and viewing skills are apparently. There's something to be desired. Diminished today, nineteen, ninety eighth every seventeenth, the voyager one passes the pioneer ten, which had obviously been launched previously, and so that makes voyager one the most distant human made object in space. It is still to this day. The most distant human made object in space. It's actually most distant stir. was because it keeps going those good grammar. Well I figured I might as well measure up to my reading and comprehension skills. December fifteenth, two thousand four voyager one crosses the termination shock manasian shock. This is this is a pretty cool guys today. He'll you chief? Yes, here's some things that you need to know about our wacky little solar system here you might ask what's the solar system. Is it. Pluto Oh. No, it's not Pluto. Again it all depends on how you're defining the edge of the solar system, but the way NASA defines it no not blue well especially since it's still on the planet rain. It's a dwarf planet. There's that never mind, yeah. It's Pluto is right there with happy sleepy, Doby Doc, bashful so termination shock. That's that's the point where the solar wind particles start to slow down. They were traveling essentially at. kind of the speed of sound would be, but anyway traveling really fast. They start slowing down because you can think of the solar wind as this this force that pushes out from the Sun all right now, think of the interstellar space kind of having its own pressure. It's sort of like air pressure is pushing in on the solar. Magnetic fields air pressure. They're exactly they're not air particles. It's all we're talking. There are particles on space, but that's that's a different thing. Anyway, so the solar wind is pressing against these these other pressures. To the point where the solar wind is slowing down, that's the termination shock, right? Boundary with with shockwave and also still not the edge of the solar system now. You've also have the Helius fear now. This is where we still have. We still have evidence of the solar wind within the heels year. Then you have the he'll pause. which is the very boundary of where the solar windows, and that still is not the edge of the solar, system. Now according to NASA. Really we need to think of the edge of the solar system as being a an area where the sun's gravitational pull has no greater effect on you than any other particular celestial body out there so in other words you aren't being pulled toward the solar system at that point any more than you're being pulled toward other point right? Yeah, so that that areas ill defined by the very nature of gravity. That would take a very long time to get there and we'll talk about that. When we get into the science section so anyway. Termination shock has all these fluctuating magnetic fields due to the change in the speed of the solar wind, and that's kind of why it's called what it's called and voyager one like I said crossed on December fifteenth, two thousand four, and begins to encounter the interstellar medium that doesn't mean that it's an interstellar space yet, but starting to encounter the particles that would be an interstellar space. September fifth two thousand seven three years later, that's when voyager two catches up and crosses the termination shock at a totally different point by the way, these two spacecraft are in two totally different sections of. Nowhere near each other, and you're not at all and in July and two thousand twelve wager one enters a new region of space, which is still inside the solar system. The Hilo Helius fear here. She called a magnetic highway Yup and the directions of particles that it's encountering are beginning to change which suggests that the spacecraft is at the very edge of the Helius. Fear then. Engineers didn't expect the data that they got back. They thought that it would have passed beyond this point earlier. Which just tells us that? Our solar system is actually larger. We thought. Is more powerful than we previously expected. Never underestimate the power of the sun. It can turn me read in a matter of minutes. Very susceptible to that sort of thing, so yeah, that's we've already talked about how they have they. They left at different times in their pathways meant that they are traveling in different directions different at different speeds. And they visited different. Voice your to visit to more planets than voyager one dead. We talked about how the planets helped. Move the spacecraft and direct the spacecraft. So if you guys have seen science fiction films like a star Trek for the voyage home where they slingshot around the sun, they're actually using the sun's gravity to kind of accelerate a ship to the point where it can travel back in time. I don't understand that by the way. If you've got warp speed you technically anyway, that's another. We did that episode. Went. They use it to slingshot around the sun, which magically lets them travel back in time? There's some truth to that in the sense that we have used that same kind of principle with designing the voyager spacecraft a right. What we what we realized is bet. If. You okay, you're moving towards the planet. You're PROB- okay. Okay? And as you move towards the planet, you're going to start accelerating as the planet's gravitational pulse. That's pulling you in. If you only kind of by then hypothetically you'll decelerate on the way out, because you're losing energy to that gravitational pull right, and by the way because of the conservation of energy, technically the planets orbit actually slows sure I'd infinitesimally. Yeah, it's Let's see I've got I haven't written down. I know I've got it written down. It's something like a one foot in a trillion years. Well, but hey, that is an impact you are. You are making a difference, but Jupiter is going to be a little late to its to its appointment and trillion years right, however, because planets are moving in their orbits. If you are going on the same trajectory as a planets orbit, you can pick up that orbital speed right as he slingshot around the planet, and so that that has allowed voyager spacecraft to. Get propulsion from one plant to the next without having to have massive thrusters onboard in fact when we get to the actual description of the spacecraft. You'll find out that they're. Thrusters are not incredibly powerful at all at all. But they were able to use the power of gravity direct and propel themselves. As large as Jupiter it's moving through space at something like thirty thousand miles per hour, forty eight thousand kilometers and Yeah! And, that's yeah, it's completely free energy boost about that much speed now, according to NASA because of the use of planetary gravity voyager to ended up having a fuel economy. Of about thirteen thousand kilometers per liter or thirty thousand miles per gallon. That's efficient. It's my car. That's highway. Miles city miles. They did not give me so I. DON'T I. Don't know how it would do in the city They're the voyager. Two's flightpath got a look like we said at all four of the giant planets and and it's a couple of billion miles further inside the solar system than the voyager one, so the voyager one got a kind of head start into interstellar space. and is more than eleven, billion or seventeen point, seven eleven, billion miles or seventeen point seven billion kilometers away from the Sun at this point Alabama more than eighteen. As of as of today there's there's a tracker on NASA nice can check this out. And and. At that distance it takes hours for a for data Toco from the spacecraft to be picked up here on earth about seventeen hours. Well. Yeah, so that's a long time so. The the way that let me let me find my note on it. It's not really interesting the way that they receive radio signals because they're. They're pretty far away. They're getting increasingly difficult to the technology that they have a whole series of two hundred and thirty foot radio dishes specifically to poll voyager data, the these are the deep space antenna that they have to pick up this information. And and they actually. Those over the course of the life of the Voyager Program when they first started, they were significantly smaller, and they didn't have to be as big because the voyager spacecraft were relatively closer to the earth. And now now we got to a point where we keep upgrading the antennas so that we can continue to pick up these increasingly weak signals so pretty amazing according to NASA the missions from Earth to Neptune, required the equivalent of eleven thousand working hours of human work while eleven thousand work years. which they said, there's only a third of what it took to build the Great Pyramid. So Hey. We're slacking. Really, they're just saying look. How much more efficient we are. They were piling up rocks. We were sending a spacecraft into space. And and again we've learned that the solar system is actually larger than what we previously anticipated, and so by the time the voyager two flew by Neptune the two spacecraft together had transmitted about five trillion bits of scientific data back at Earth, and it was someone's job to look at all that. But yeah, the deep space tracking antennas are the ones we were talking about earlier that have been upgraded several times, and that that kind of that's the brief view of the mission, and next we're going to take a look at the space craft itself and also some kind of cool. Records that are above the the two spacecraft, but before we do that, let's take a quick pause to thank our sponsor. With the capital, one quicksilver card, you earn unlimited one point five percent cashback on every purchase everywhere. That's unlimited one point five percent cashback on everything you buy and unlimited really means unlimited with quicksilver. 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Hey, let's just kind of roll with it. Yeah Yeah, so. That's twenty, twenty, two, twenty, twenty five. That's about when we expect the power resources to be to the point where they can no longer power the transmitter to send us back data, and we'll talk about that. That's one of the things that That's interesting about this space craft. There are a lot of interesting. Thank so both of them Denko. Yes, they are identical so each one of the ways just under a ton. And now when they were on top of the the launch vehicle, they weighed a lot more than that, but the space craft themselves are just under a ton each on earth, obviously because weight is all relative to where you are. And they are each made up of about sixty five thousand individual parts, but these parts are often made up of Tinier. So. They have a term they use which is equivalent parts and equivalent parts means like. If you were to look at for example, if I were to stay, my computer is part of is one part of the equipment that I use. Someone else could point out well. That computer has multiple chips in it, and those chips have transistors, and so really that one part is a representation of lots and lots lots of parts, so NASA was like well. If you want to know how many. Parts there are about five million of them. compare that to your old standard definition color television. There'd be about two thousand five hundred equivalent parts. So lots more than a color. TV which is kind of what you want in your. Space, you need a little bit more than your average standard definition color television I agree. I would hope so yeah also. Larger than, your standard. Yes. Unless you're? A crazy rich person, the the main body is a is a ten sided box. That's about six feet or one point eight meters across, and that's where the fuel tank the and some of the electronic instruments. And we'll talk about those instruments. There are a lot of them. Lunch. They're. They're they both have areas that are hardened against radiation and shielded, and the reason for that is obviously that when you go into space, you're going to encounter things that you would not encounter here on the surface of the planet, and the reason for that is that the earth atmosphere and magnetosphere? Magnetosphere sphere still makes me think that we're watching X. men I I would say I would say magnetosphere I know you would, but but I. Fear. Is the fear in which magneto travels, and it's also a magnetic field that surrounds the earth penetrates and binds us together. like the force now what it does actually repels certain types of waves and particles, which allows us to relive. Yeah, we to being bombarded by cosmic radiation or gamma, rays, or things like that because. Much worse sunburns than than others, we're talking so the the combination of the atmosphere and the magnetosphere or magnetosphere. Protects US and so the thing is that when you're on space, you don't have the benefit of that protection, so that's why both of them have these these shielding areas in casings that are hardened against radiation to protect them if they were to encounter any of these waves or particles. Clearly very important, interesting, little side fact, so earth has a magnetosphere. Mars doesn't. So if we were to make a colony on Mars we would not have that protection that we would need to compensate for it in some way right, so you wouldn't want to go on any long strolls on the Martian soil radio, some serious protections. That's all of those all of those fashionable space bikinis that were that were really popular back in the nineteen fifties would not probably be good. The interesting thing I heard was I was listening although I. It was a skeptics guide to the universe. Great podcast has no affiliation with us, but they are fantastic very. Interesting Educational podcast. They had a recent episode where. They had an astronomer on talking about things like Mars and they were even talking about all right. Let's look into a science fiction future where we can tear a form Mars, so we're able to transform Mars so that the actual services habitable livable, and even then because of the lack of the magnetosphere you would still be prone to things like cosmic radiation gamma radiation you would, you would still be vulnerable that so you would not be able to tear form it for any extended length of time eventually that stuff would kill the life on that planet right because things like gamma, radiation for example aren't as cool as for example, teenage mutant Ninja Turtles make it sound or Mostly you just die. Yeah, it's not. It's not attractive. NASA said that because of the distance from the the the voyager spacecraft passed close enough to Jupiter that. It received more than a thousand times the radiation that would be a lethal level of radiation very. For Human Person. Yes. So moving onto more things that are on board this these spacecraft. It has a it has a twelve foot or a three point. Seven meter high gain antenna looks like a satellite dish. Yeah, this is what allows it to transmit and receive data to and from Earth, and no matter where it goes. The Internet is programmed to always point towards earth. Yes, that's it's actually got a gyroscopic. System so that no matter how it's oriented, it can, it can readjust its attitude so that the the antennas twenty toward us, so we can have the best possible hike up those radio transmissions It has a lot of different instruments aboard including. Besides the high gain antenna it's got a low energy charged Particle Instrument and ultra-violet Spectrometer, which currently only the voyager one is using to collect data. has both narrow and wide angle imaging instruments also known as cameras. Got A. Fancy eight hundred eight hundred cameras, because this was launched in the nineteen seventies. Yes, seemed pretty cool at the time. Yeah, as a cosmic ray instruments that can detect and measure cosmic rays a photo polar remedy. which I have no idea what it does I I was I? I ran into and thought that's really cool and I. Never actually look more into it. Because I was lucky that I could say it. There's an infrared interferometer spectrometer. And Optical calibration targeting system, a planetary radio astronomy and plasma wave antenna, each spacecraft's two of those and also as the planetary radio astronomy instrument or Has the a plasma instrument. Voyager one's plasma instrument is nonfunctional, but all other instruments are in working order and boys. You're too is still collecting data through its plasma instruments It's got. It also gets power from three Isotope Thermo Electric Generators, and currently it gets about three hundred and fifteen watts of power now the spacecraft designed so that all of their systems can operate at four hundred watts of power. Okay, so it's able to It's still getting power, but it's not enough power to operate everything, and in fact they designed the voyager spacecraft with this in mind, the idea being that as the power as the power supply begins to decrease, it begins to shutdown unnecessary, says instruments. So originally. There were eleven different. Projects that were involved in gathering data from the Voyager's systems and processing that data here on earth. There were eleven of them currently, only five of them are still in operation because the other systems have been progressively shut down to make sure that the voyager spacecraft can still send us information, and like you said by twenty, twenty or twenty five or so. That's when we expect. Expect the power to have run down enough where we're not going to be able to get any more information from them, because it's just not going to have the power necessary to broadcast right right well, because the way that this engine of sorts works, is that appellative plutonium dioxide released heat through their own natural decay processes, and so once they have finished a king. That's it. Yeah. That's true and then I'll I forgot. Magnetometer boom which designed tests to measure magnetic fields, so that was one of those things we didn't really know a lot about the magnetic field to the outer planets before we sent these these spacecraft up. That's one of the really huge as sources of information that it is. Yeah and so then it has a flight data subsystem, which handles all the information, and it has an eight track digital tape recorder. So you've got an eight track up there. It's a it to the FTSE configures controls collects data from the various instruments and the tape recorder handles the data from the plasma wave subsystem, because that's the one that gets the highest density of data and the shortest amount of time, so the data tape recorder was the cutting edge technology to handle that that information and according to NASA. The tape in the digital recorder won't wear out until the tape has moved back and forth through a distance that is equivalent to the width of the United. States that is not. Not Terribly, precise because the United States is not a perfect rectangle, but in general I would say that's probably about three thousand miles, which is around four thousand eight hundred kilometers I assume they mean is that it's doing fine. Yeah, so what they're saying is that that tape is capable of traveling that collective amount of distance about breaking right, so you got to remember the tape. itself is not that long. It's just saying that they would you'll by the time you would go through all this tape and his worn out. You could have gone all the way across. The United States using that same distance of taping played through. Just kind of that's impressive that has a command computer subsystem which provides sequencing and control functions, which includes fault detection, corrective routines, antenna, pointing data and spacecrafts sequencing data. The detection involves seven top level fault, protection routines, and each one is able to detect and correct for several possible failures. Oh, basically it just means that there's the computer has multiple modules, and they compare data back and forth between each other, and it will decide if one module is different from the others that that one's faulty and to cut it out system. And it also means that the space craft capable of shutting down systems if it needs to automatically autonomously, because which is important, because we can't broadcast to these things they broadcast to us. They don't have receivers though their antenna could receive information, thank yeah, but it means that it would take seventeen hours for the information to get to us in seventeen hours for the freshly of back, and by then whatever the problem was is probably not the biggest issue at that point right, so yeah. It's important to have something to connect autonomously. If if you if the communication is a barrier, same sort of thing with the the curiosity rover when it was landing on the surface of Mars, you know a lot of that landing. In fact, all of the landing was autonomous because there was no time for us to send any adjustments to the system. It's like you're on your own. Yeah, by the time we. We would be able to send adjustment. It would have already either crashed or landed safely, so you had to design a spacecraft that could do this or else. It wouldn't work pretty impressive in the nineteen seventies for for the amount of computing power that what's going Oh. Yeah, definitely, and it also had an attitude, art or still hassle I. Don't know why I'm using the past tense still up dead to you. The attitude and articulation control subsystem, which is also known acs it's in charge of maintaining the spacecraft orientation in positions the scan platform. This is what we're talking about. The system that's that's in charge of making sure that data antennas pointed back at Earth, and also that the scan platform, which is really you know the instrumentation panel? Is pointed in the right direction to get the data the needs. And the. It's yeah. It's a three axis stabilization system and use the celestial, or Giro referenced attitude control to make the high gain antenna point back to Earth now we talked about the fact that there is an interesting gold plated copper disc on board each of the two voyager spacecraft. The golden records there for. So this This was a really cool idea you know. Who of course was the chairman for this Carl? Sagan yes, he he had billions and billions of suggestions, but not all of them can make it onto the desk, obvious right, and and these are these are these these goldplated copies engraved like vinyl records? Yeah, yeah, and kids. Ask Your parents. Oh dear, no, no kids are hipsters. These days. We know things final. It's cool kids, 'til your older siblings because they they've missed out on the HIPSTER generation right? I'm not all right, so so yeah, you're talking about a desk. Vast physical grooves that are in it that can be read using a stylus and country, which which were included the they included the cartridge and stylus did not include a turntable. So aliens aliens work it out. They have to build it, but they did leave instructions written in a symbolic language to say here's how you would construct something that would be able to play these things right now. They were there twelve inches in diameter, and they are designed to be played back at sixteen and two-thirds revolutions per minute. So actually fairly slowly i. mean you re thinking about the? The, Forty five or thirty three revolutions per minute for for your average albums, and this is a six hundred two thirds so. on these golden records are lots and lots of stuff actually. It's including things like greetings from five different languages, including some that aren't being used anymore did not been used in a very long time. which is a Sumerian language which was last used around four thousand. Selection of nature sounds Yup, so if you ever wanted to hear what frogs burping sounded like, and you are from some distant planet. Here's an opportunity to. Share. Your for Ford Prefect and you're on your way to Earth. This is a good way to do some homework before you get there. A lot of traditional music, some native American chance and Scottish Bagpipes talk about some of the music was on here. For African ritual music there's a bunch of classical music and so. I wrote down some of my favorites. This is this is obviously. There are lots and lots of musical tracks on the records. These are just the ones that I personally wrote down because I I they resonate with me, It's not to say that the other ones are not anti sense. Familiar with some of them but there's the Brandenburg Concerto number two F. actually it's just the first movement that's by a guy named Bob Batch. Johan batch wrote that. If I'd he's just some dude really. Yeah obviously Bach's Brandenburg Concerto number two enough Then there's a melancholy blues which was performed by Louis Armstrong Stravinsky's. The rite of spring was included Bach actually was pretty well represented on this record. He also had the well tempered clavier on there there was the first Moon Beethoven's Fifth Symphony. You know the There was another tribes chant, and then of course, the most important I think musical work that was included out of all the pieces were on there as we as we all know from the documentary back to the future I. Save Marnie MC fly. It'll save the human race. We're talking about chuck. Berry's Johnny B good. There's actually a book all about the process that they used to select which sounds went on the golden record. It finally came out with a CD companion at some point. I'm sure it's on digital. Yes, the book itself is out of print, but you can sometimes find copies is called murmurs from Earth so if you want to learn more about how they came about choosing, which sounds, go in there That's that's a really well done piece it's. It's something that I've heard nothing but good things about it. I personally have not had a chance to read it. by the time I learned about it. It was wearing print. But. There's also a bunch of images on the desks including a star map, clearly showing the location of earth. NEW SAYING Here's what humans tastes like maps of earth images. I'm just I'm just ignoring that entirely. There are people who have said what a huge mistake! It was to essentially include directions directly. I, I think it's pretty ridiculous because the odds one. Anyone finding voyager sweating. Big as it turns out really big no-no. Head, not you might think it's a long walk to the chemist on the corner, but that's just nuts compared to space. It's going to be tens of thousands of years before. Either Voyager craft encounter anything near another star. Yeah, exactly so really by the time I'm betting. We will have either kill ourselves off or hit. And plus on top of that. You know it would all depend on from what direction the other creatures were approaching. Earth because. There are a lot of different vectors. You could take, and only a couple of them would. Intersect with the pathway of either voyagers waste. Than most science fiction movies are willing to acknowledge, there's just ship space battle than just the single plane. so there was also an hour long recording the brainwaves of a woman named Ann Druyan, who would become crossings wife Yep. She's an author. She concentrates mainly on cosmology and science and she. She signed up for this. She volunteered to have her brainwaves recorded in Carl. Sagan talked about it, and she thought it was a really interesting idea, and so she went in for. The process where her brain. Heartbeat were were red, and then transferred to data analog that we have to say because it's an analog desk. And She says that what she did, was she? She thought about big historical moments that were very important in the development of human history, and then she spent some time. About the the current situation on earth how what that's like thing and not sugar coating at things like violence between people and the the. Yeah yeah, so she really spent some time thinking about things that she felt needed to be addressed. And then she said that she took the liberty toward the end of the session to take a little bit of time and think about what it's like to fall in love, which I think is amazing, wonderful sweet! Yeah, so now we those aliens can't tell us. They don't know how to love because she thought about it for for a while. Darn, it so yeah. Those radio signals do take a long time to get to US so but. And and the record that's on there. If you want to hear some of the stuff there are, there are a lot of different sites out there that that keep all the things that. Tells you? What's there and most of that's pretty easy to get access to and listened to. Find one in Lincoln up on social. Yeah, we'll see if we can find something in the know. Maybe I'll see if I can make it a spotify playlist or something. I'll get a Ukulele and play Johnny be good on the Ukulele. Johnny please stop. That would be the name of that song all right so. Anyway that's that's kind of the the the wrap up of the spacecraft in the stuff that was aborted, but we still haven't talked about the actual science return, so we're going to do that in just a moment, but before we do, let's take a quick moment to thank our other sponsor. Here's the thing. Saving money with Geico is almost than playing pickup. Because there's always that guy who joins your game. 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My name is on the free iheartradio APP or wherever you prefer to listen to your podcast. A new episode every Tuesday if combined. Yes, I hope you'll join me all are my name is the podcast. If talked about what the mission was, we talked about the spacecraft. Let's talk about what the spacecraft found. So of the eleven investigation teams that were originally involved in the voyager mission like I said earlier. Only five of them are still supported, and those five are magnetic field investigation. Low Energy Charged Particle investigation, COSMIC RAY investigation plasma investigation, which is only active on the boy or to the. Doesn't work anywhere and PLASMA WAVE INVESTIGATION SAY PLASMA, investigation plasma wave, two different things, and these are clearly the more important ones because there's not all that much to for example, take pictures of. Once you're done Dante the photo of the the the solar system from way the heck out there. There's really no purpose to. Going to that, so yeah, that's been shut down and the five instruments that support these five missions. The medic field instrument or MAG. Low Energy charged particle instrument the ACP. COSMIC ARRANGEMENT SIERRA THE PLASMA instrument that's, p., L. S. and the plasma wave instrument. That's PWS. Really at this point now that we've finished taking photos and measurements of all the planets, which was the main science, before was really getting good images, and getting some good scientific data about the actual plants, and their movements was the origin of the program. Yeah, before they kind of realize. Oh, Hey, we can do more stuff out there. Yes, go now now we're. We've switched over to interstellar, but some of the stuff they've found because of these, and then later on have have expounded upon by sending other orbiters like Cassini for example but some of the stuff they discovered were like they. They took a closer look at Europa which is one of Jupiter's moons. And saw that it had a a water ice surface and originally thought maybe Europa could have an ocean underneath that ice, but some scientists now say they think that it's probably more like a slush or maybe even solid solid ice but that was a possibility they The voyager spacecraft also observed Palay. which is the largest volcanoes on ECHO? Which is the another moon of? And they observed that pay was erupting, sulfur and sulfur dioxide and. These eruptions were going up to heights that are equivalent to about. Thirty Times, the elevations of Mount Everest. Hollis mountain on Earth multiply that by well mountain on the surface like a not underwater. Look at underwater and there's an argument these area. But, over above water. It's tall mountain unnerved. By thirty times, that's how high up these eruptions going not necessarily a good vacation spot now scientists point out that gravity is about six times weaker than that of earth, so it's closer to what our moon has but the fallout zone for the the the sulfur dioxide that was being. Thrust into the atmosphere of i. o was about the size of France. Well yeah, so. That was. When I read the while a huge huge volcano Now the. We also had some information about Saturn's largest moon which is called tighten. discovered the oceans of pain and methane aboard aboard on Titan, not aboard time it is technically a space. Scuttling. Satellite. Natural satellite, not a man-made one. And it has a also discovered that has the Titan, the largest moon of Saturn has a dense atmosphere lots of hydrocarbons, and maybe it could possibly at some point in the past have supported life. The methane is a possible indication that living things once lived there. Now. It does not necessarily hydrocarbons as well, but that does not necessarily mean that life. On Titan, but it's a possibility of voyager also took images of urinalysis rings, which are very difficult to see. Right. And but they did that. They also observed Saturn's rings and saw that they were made of about ten thousand strands of ice, particles and car sized icebergs and that if you at the proportionally, their thickness is much much much much much smaller than the width of the rain, so if you think of it as like A. One of those things called. They're not the FRISBEES, but you know the rings the Dickie. Hollow in the middle there, so it's just a it's a desk. That doesn't have a center to it. the width of the band is much wider than the thickness of the band is what they discovered those kind of interesting. Now. We're talking more about the interstellar work. They're still inside the Helius. Fear right and I did want to mention at some point here on March twentieth, and we mentioned this in another podcast that we were recording right around March twenty eight. There were there were false reports that it had left. The healers fear entered interstellar space, and those were those were false reports NASA came out and said No. We've not seen the changes in the magnetic radiation that we are expecting because they did say that they had seen some changes in particle movement, which at I would have indicated that the spacecraft had moved out of the Helius here. From the magnetic movement, that's not the case right, so it's one of those things where again we keep finding out. The solar system is larger as we learn more about how behaving so now the next step in this you can think of the interstellar exploration and being in three phases, the first was crossing the termination shock, which both of the spacecraft already done. The next is exploration of the hero Sheath. Opening right now, and then the third is interstellar exploration, which is when the spacecraft have passed beyond the helium pause boundary. Now he'll. Boundary you can think this is kind of like a bubble around the sun that co completely encompasses the the the entire solar system. It's not a perfectly round bubble, so. But it's it's Whibley wobbly area. And beyond this boundary there's no solar wind or magnetic field from the Sun. However, they're still the gravitational influence of the sun at that point, but particles in waves in this area of space are unaffected by our son, and we don't really know a whole lot about them because we haven't been able to observe them directly through any kind of spacecraft. and. This is a hypothetical Heliopolis. We have not encountered it yet, so, but it's still not technically the edge of the solar system. If you if you ask NASA, the edge of the solar system would be that area where there's no longer that gravitational factor from the Sun which would require us to travel about two light years away from the sun, so they'll take us about forty thousand years for those spacecraft to get there which is. You know set your alarms because it's GonNa take a while so in other words. If someone tells you that the voyager has passed outside the solar system, your response should be wow. Which Alien Warp did away from there? Because there's no way that it's done that at least not by the definition that NASA makes now. They're talking about the Halio pause. That's a different story and it's different. That's a different story and they are anticipating that within our lifetimes. They said they expected it to happen. Within ten to twenty years of passing the termination shock. So now it's just a real be probably hopefully. Fingers crossed before before that plutonium dioxide runs out right before twenty, twenty or twenty twenty around that area so. Learn, you have an interesting idea. An experimental idea that we thought we would try. which is that you sent out a tweet saying? Hey, guys! If you have any anything interesting that you want to ask or goofy that you want to ask about our podcast about the voyager spacecraft and the time to do it and people did a of people did anyway so hopefully we'll be able to do this in the future and get me even more discussion, but this was a fun. First Attempt, so here's some of the questions we receive in on twitter asked a whole bunch of questions that I'm going to tackle one at a time. I was how fast are the voyager spacecraft traveling? Good question so voyager wants traveling at about three point six astronomical units per year and wedge to his poking along at three point three astronomical units per year now. That might not tell you very much unless you know how long an astronomical unit is, it's measurement of distance based upon the mean distance between Earth and the sun, and that's equivalent to about one, hundred, forty, nine, million, five, hundred, Ninety, seven, thousand, eight, hundred, seventy, one kilometers, or ninety, two million. Million Nine, hundred, fifty, five thousand seven miles, and because Jonathan loves you. He did the Math Yep, so let's talk about how the sucker breaks down, so remember voyager. One's going at three point six astronomical units year that means traveling about five hundred, thirty nine million kilometers per year or three, hundred, thirty five million miles per year, and that breaks down to sixty, one, thousand, four, hundred, thirty eight kilometers per hour or thirty, eight, thousand, one, hundred seventy six miles per hour either way. It's going wicked fast. Voyager two three point three astronomical yet for year that breaks down to four, hundred, ninety, four million kilometers per year or fifty, six, thousand, three hundred eighteen kilometers per hour and miles. It's three hundred seventy million miles per year or thirty five thousand miles per hour. Slightly less wicked fast, but still we could fix so, but still faster than than me. For example his next question next question was. Are they accelerating no. Next question was how long will remain in contact well like we said, we're not really sure it's all going to depend upon the power supply, and also whether or not our antenna here on earth can continue. But we expect around twenty, twenty, twenty, twenty five will be the last we hear of them. And then Ian and also a listener named Jonathan also a date. They both that we somehow reference a film star. Trek the motion picture okay. What does have to do with Star Trek the motion picture well in a way, voyager is the bad guy in star trek the motion picture. In another way, the whole film is the bad guy because it's slow as heck. I watched it I watched it not for an anticipation of this podcast I watched it just. And I had not seen it since I was a kid. Not Don't think I ever sat through it all the way through when I was a kid. I don't think I got through it. All the way throws an adult again. I can't say that I've seen since I was about A. Laundry. Search to amazing movie star Trek. The motion picture not so much, but in that story, and this is gonNA sound really familiar to anyone who watched star trek four, because it's very similar story. A probe that has this weird energy field around it enters our solar system actually I. It's just moving through space, but everything encounters. It's starting to deactivate and everyone's kind of upset because that's terrible. We stop this. And, of course, the only person who can stop it is Kirk who come and deers star starship enterprise. He is no longer the captain of the Enterprise. At that point, he's teaching it Starfleet, but the enterprise is docked in a space station around Earth, and so he after a very long tour of the ship the outside of the ship that Scotty takes on eventually onboard. This movie moves slowly is what I'm saying and they they go and investigate this this probe that's called V., Jer vitre and. And Vija is this artificially intelligent. Vehicle and actually the vehicle contains a smaller probe leg vehicle inside of it ultimately. They discovered that what Vija. Really is is voyager six, which doesn't exist yet. No, there's only. Two, but in this in the movie it was voyager six that was supposedly lodge toward the end of the twentieth century, which I don't know if you noticed, we're not in that anymore. So you know same thing like I think the eugenics wars and star trek to that. are that ever mentioned that Khan was part of that was supposed to take place in one, thousand, nine, hundred six, so we have a lot of catching up to do not that I want those to happen anytime soon, but the the Vija was called villager because it could no longer see the letters that were missing. So. The missing letters were gone so all that was left. Was the VGA since feature? And and in the story, what you find is that aliens had encountered the voyager six probe, and had enhanced it so that it could learn everything that is learnable, and then return the information to so it was trying to do a originally, it was supposed to be a benevolent thing, but because feature had gained since it no longer completely understood the parameters of its mission, and so it started to go a little bunkers and then of course, the some crew members aboard the enterprise end up essentially reasoning with the artificially intelligent probe so like I said it's kind of the bad guy in Star Trek the motion picture. If you feel like spoiled that movie, I didn't. Really I mean. You bear skipping our star Trek. Takes. Say, this is someone who loves star Trek. Okay I don't don't get me wrong I. Just I feel like that movie, was it? A lot of the movies played for Grandeur and problem is that we've all gotten used to seeing these amazing of visuals. They're even more amazing than what was available back then so to kind of have this big reveal moment and you look at the picture and you're like you. Happens on TV every week. So that's the problem all right so Then we also had a listener who has the handle retina made it his name who asked what about future missions with better equipment. Well we had the Cassini orbiter, but we also NASA had proposed a couple of joint missions with the European Union. But they haven't really worked out. One of them was the Jupiter Europa orbiter, but that was essentially scrapped because of budget problems, and the other was the titan. Saturn system mission, which was shelved in order for NASA to concentrate on the Jupiter Europa or So but originally those were supposed to launch in twenty twenty now because of the budget cutbacks and everything, and you know the fact that they're just hasn't been time to develop. That launch window is kind of closed at this point so. As far as I, know right now, there are no definitive. Space or Outer Planet Missions Plant I think right now. People are really concentrating on on Mars Mars and the moon. Earth orbit those are those are the things that are. I hesitate to say easier. Remaining more achievable. I have heard that that future moon landing have been scrapped in favor of future Mars. Yes. And this changes from one administration to another, because because a lot of these considerations are not just technological or scientific. They're also political. The whole space race was political the fact that the if there had not been that rivalry between the United States. Show of muscle. We can send. We can send this rocket not only to your face, but all the way to the moon. So that was that was you know without that kind of pressure? Then it makes it harder for scientists to get the money. They need to be able to do the science they do. That's a sad fact of the world. Is that money away? 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The Young Turks - October 26, 2020

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The Young Turks - October 26, 2020

"Support, for this podcast comes from politically reactive. Now back with new episodes Comedians W. Kamau Bell and Hurry Kunda Baalu try to make sense of the dumpster fire of American politics and keep each other and you seen subscribe on Apple podcasts spotify or wherever you listen to podcasts. The Past. Church shaky granted with you guys. It is eight days before the election. Eight days before we decide what is GONNA happen to this country? And I am both incredibly excited. And now nervous. And and I'll tell you. The main reason I'm nervous is is not necessarily the polling. Although it has tightened in some places. I think it's I think trump is doing everything wrong right now luckily, and so I think it's going to expand again. As there's some indications it's happening right now. But God never underestimate the ability of a democrat. Dibango. Things so. Cross your fingers anyway in about maybe eight days maybe ten days maybe twelve days whenever the election is called either you'll hear these magical words down goes. Oh Anna. How good is that going to sound? If. That happens. How good is that going to sound. Sure. Yeah. That'll be great. Let's. Why do we? Why do we play these Games We don't know what's going to happen We're wasting time making these predictions. We have lots of news to get to let's just do our news. said the queen of the mood today. I queen. I'll skip everything else. Let's go forward. All right. Let's do it. I love that. So we actually start off with some pretty depressing news. Nearly two, hundred, twenty, five, thousand Americans have already died from Corona virus and Donald Trump's chief of staff mark meadows during a white flag during an interview with Jake. Tapper. Over the weekend watch. Your website is talking about well now, we think the spread is coming from small social groups in family groups, I. It was large groups now a small groups. Announced places well. Out of control. So here's what we have to do. We're not going to control the pandemic. We are going to control the fact that we get vaccines, therapeutics, and other mitigates we're GonNa Gary. Because it is a contagious virus just like the fully. But why not make it to contain it we are making efforts to contain running all over the country not wearing a mask. Let me get back back and forth let me just say this is what we need to do is make sure that we have the proper mitigation factors where the therapies, vaccines or treatments to make sure that people don't die from this but to suggest that we're going to actually quarantine all of America. Noriko and saying they are Joe Biden saying that he says lock everybody down we'RE GONNA have we're GONNA HAVE DR we're GonNa have a dark winter. We're GONNA have dark desert health officials. Say That's what health officials say. So there you have it. He says, we're not going to try to control the pandemic I think that that was already pretty obvious based on the numbers that we've been experiencing here in the United States especially compared to other developed countries. And again, two, hundred, twenty, five thousand Americans nearly that many. Americans dead during this pandemic and you know the trump administration to their credit, they do the quiet parts out. Loud. On one hand you'll have. Scott, Atlas. You know engage in the motions of pursuing her immunity which could lead to as many as. Four million Americans dying from this pandemic. But then at the same time denying that they're engaging in heard immunity or implementing that kind of strategy and then you have mark meadows again, saying the quiet parts out loud saying that they're not going to try to control it. The administration continues to consistently disregarded advice from government health experts for instance, to wear masks social distance and avoid large gatherings as a way to curb the spread of the virus. Easy things to do. You don't even need to shut down the economy to do this. The White House is also facing a potential second outbreak were in the middle of it right now, we're at the beginning of it actually of the virus after at least five people in pences, inner circle have tested positive in recent days and pence is considered a so-called essential worker because he's essentially doing campaigning for trump and and for the trump administration. That's the most important thing he can do. So it doesn't matter that he's been around people who have the virus he's still doing campaigning. The administration is still refusing to take this current virus seriously and so more Americans will die as a result. Okay. So first of all, let's clarify my espionage essential worker. That's what Mark Meadows claimed in that interview. He could be an essential worker as the head of the coronavirus task force. But he could do that remotely while quarantined but that is not what he's doing. He is going in campaigning as vice president to get reelected. Wall part of that is essential is essential maybe for his career for Donald Trump's ego but that is not an essential health worker or an essential worker in any other definition. So and it's much more dangerous because he's now going in front of crowds without mass even though five people on his team now have tested positive for coronavirus including his chief-of-staff so The couldn't find a better way to advertise how little they care about you. So now let's go to mark meadows. I saw the headline that he said. We're not going to try to contain it. I thought I. Wonder if it's taken out of context because that even for this white. House. That seems so insane right? So I watched the whole thing and. He does say, Hey, we're GONNA do the vaccines and therapeutics since Cetera and and that's an almost all the media stories. But over the course of at least six minutes of that interview about four times he's downplays the idea of trying to control or contain the disease through mass. So he was not taken out of context and it was. Completely. Accurate to what he was trying to say, which is will treat disease but basically, we're not going to try to contain the disease we've given. So Hey, it spreads like the fluids like the cold. Now you could take measures, but we have chosen not to and when asked why and over by Jake tapper he kept saying freedom You know we don't want to take away people's freedoms when they come to the. Events for Donald Trump rallies we make everything optional. We don't require mass. Pence, where's the Massey said sometimes and he doesn't wear it other times trump never wears it now and. Tapper clarified. So you're telling Americans follow the CDC guidelines, but you guys are clearly not following the CDC guidelines yourself and he had no answer for that. His answer was we're not trying to control the disease or containing we're trying to just treat it afterwards. Okay that is giving up and it's a stunning thing to say eight days before an election. Unreal. So and and I also want to show. The graphs here because I want people to understand what we're talking about. When we say it's raging now it's not hey, this is the third time around and it's another bump up. No, this is the highest. It's ever been in the whole eleven months so. Over the last seven days, they do a seven day average. It is the highest seventy average since the beanie of this year since we ever found out, there was a coronavirus. So you remember the huge spike in March and April. Will you see there? There's April Spike right. That, you remember that as a huge April spike, right nobody actually July August was worse and now the October Spike is even worse. This chart here is what incompetence looks like. Yeah. Absolutely, and what you'll hear from the trump administration and it's been a line that has been used for months. Now is that the reason why the United States look so bad is because we just do a better job than anyone else when it comes to our testing, but that's not the case. So if you take a look at the daily Corona virus tests per capita per capita so this accounts for The difference in populations and all these countries the United States is not the best. When it comes to testing, we're all the way at the bottom of this list Luxembourg the UAE Bahrain Spain Singapore Belgium the UK Ireland Russia all of these countries perform more tests per capita than the United States, and this is according to data from. Johns. Hopkins University. Now, if you look at daily Corona virus cases, these are new cases. The United States is at the top of that list it. It does not look good. This is the seven day average. The United States is above sixty one thousand new cases per day, and if you look at the total cova deaths per capita. We're pretty high up there although there are a bunch of countries that are ahead of us or not a good way obviously in the number of corona virus deaths per capita Peru, Belgium Bolivia Brazil Spain Chile. Ecuador. Mexico. And then you have the United States with sixty eight Cova deaths per capita. But remember we're talking about the richest country in the world with. So, many resources that could be utilized in order to keep people safe and just a simple campaign that encourages people to wear masks when they're out in public encourages people or discourages people from gathering. In large groups, the trump administration is incapable of doing any of it. Donald Trump believes and he has said this he has said it explicitly during an interview with the Wall Street Journal. He believes that when people wear masks, it makes him look bad. It goes back to his own vanity and it shows that he has absolutely no regard for people's lives would he cares about first and foremost is how he appears even when he knows that discouraging people from wearing masks means more people are going to die under his watch, but he doesn't care he doesn't care. Okay. So. Let's be fair and ensure the per capita numbers across the board. So yes, it over own raw numbers were number one in most cases in the world and number one in most deaths in the world. Now, obviously are more populous countries than us like India and China but we are among the more populous countries. So what is it per capita? Well, both in cases and deaths we're number nine. Hey, that's better than number one as in the worst. But that means we're ninth worst out of over two hundred countries. Now, a ten countries, not a twenty countries were ninth worst per capita in both cases and deaths out of over two hundred countries. So yes. All those countries Kazahstan. On or by you name it, it doesn't matter. were. Ninth worst per capita and so us, we do a lot of testing. But Anna showed you the per capita testing But other countries like Singapore, which has done a fantastic job of containing the disease. They test ten times as much as we do. So, then finally trump says well. We do hosting were among the leaders and testing, right? Okay. Well. then. He's implying that that is why we have so many cases. All right. Now let me break that down for your real quick. So if it was because of the testing that we are reporting more cases. The more testing we'd do our percentage of people who have corona virus to the number of people who have been tested would go down because we're testing. So many people you'll have a lower and lower percentage of cases if number of cases are not really that high, right. But recently, the number of cases per test has gone up not down. And that means no matter how much you test. We're getting a higher percentage of people testing positive because tons and tons of people actually have it. And so now they're starting to get overloaded in El Paso Texas these the hospitals and the and and healthcare providers, and in Utah I guess where the worst outbreaks are the dakotas number one into North Dakota and South Dakota. What happened in the Code Azeri Alright biker rallies, Sturgis, and they were all tough guys and they didn't wear masks. Sticking. His oafs, they got it a lot of it. That's why North Dakota South Dakota our number one and two by the way Montana's in the top five. Idaho's at the top. Gee I wonder what happened right around there. Minnesota's near the topic is of them because if you don't wear mass, the disease goes out of control and now the trump administration has come all the way back around to go. Yes. So what we're going to let this disease that has killed two hundred and twenty five, thousand Americans rage out of control and hope to treat it at a later time. Yeah it's. Absolutely devastating and would step stating his even when members of their own administration suffer. The consequences of they're disgusting anti-science message. They still don't make any changes which takes me to our second story on Mike Pence. So. So several vice president, Mike Pence's staffers have tested positive for corona virus but pence refuses to self quarantine even though the CDC indicates that he should self quarantine, he claims he and his wife have taken krona virus tests and they've tested negative. So as a result. As a so-called essential worker, he's going to run around and do campaigning for trump. In several different states. So at least five people, Vice President Mike Pence's orbit have tested positive for corona virus in recent days that includes chief of Staff Mark Short Close Aide Zach Bauer. And outside adviser. Marty oppsed short has been a key aide involved in the US coronavirus. Response Key has been reported to have advocated for economy I approach to the pandemic. He has also been one of the driving forces in the trump administration to basically discourage listening to Dr Anthony Fauci or any of the advice he has in regards to the pandemic. Now, Donald Trump's chief of staff Mark Meadows recently had an interview with Jake Tapper where he indicated that they believe that Mike Pence truly is an essential worker. Let's watch. Short is now positive for the virus. CDC guidelines say that Vice President Pence he'd quarantine for fourteen days. Now I understand the White House is trying to get around that by saying the vice president is an essential worker but mark how is going all over the country? How is that campaigning? I was essential work it's not like he's helping to contain the virus. In fact, the opposite he's holding rallies that could be spreading the virus. Well, actually he's not just campaigning he's working he was. Tallahassee. Alyce I. I'm not saying he's not campaigning I'm saying that that is only part of what he's doing it as we look at that essential personnel whether it's the vice president of the United States or anyone else. Guidelines Jake CDC guidelines does say essential personnel. If they wear a mask and I spoke to the vice president last night at midnight and I can tell you that what he's doing is wearing a mask socially distancing and when he goes up to speak, he will take the mask off put it back on. This is all about helping Donald trump campaign and nothing more. It's not about doing essential work. Essential work would actually be sitting down listening to members of the CDC listening to Dr Anthony Fauci and carrying out their guidelines, encouraging Americans to wear masks and keep themselves safe during this pandemic pens has engaged in none of that zero percent of that. The essential work that they're referring to is campaigning and I'll. Give you the specific examples pence for instance, is going to Minnesota on Monday and back to North and South Carolina on. Tuesday. He's also expected to return to the upper mid west. This week the officials said pence would continue to be tested but like trump still plants to be on the road every day for the next week, and of course, he's rarely seen wearing a mask while he's doing this so. Jink take it away. Yeah. How other buying, Harris. An outbreak of two people on Harris's team. That got this. A little bit earlier. Oh yes. She she stopped campaigning. Is going to do likewise, of course. And Look I think the fundamentally don't understand simple facts even when it comes to their own health and Emmy trump keeps saying even after I learned a lot when I got coronavirus, you should learn a lot on our behalf ten months ago. anyways. But then he goes on to say you know. Treated. Some say cure no, no one says a cure. You're an idiot you don't know thing. So Mike Pence, keep saying. No it's okay. I'm getting tested. No I know that's good. Then you know whether you got it or you didn't. But that getting tested doesn't mean you prevented it. I mean do not. It's possible. They don't understand is really simple things like that testing is after the fact to see if you have it. Detest doesn't prevent you from getting it. I don't think they even understand that they're incredibly dense and of course, whatever they do understand. Now, if you're magazine, you know they good man, they're just want to spread it to us they're smart enough to understand their spreading it. Wait how's that better? We showed you that video of rally. They're almost nobody had mass. They're all scrunched up next to one another I mean it's this is Darwinism on steroids. Dr was around to see this he'd be like Hashtag told you. What I'm, but the one thing. The one thing that I wish people would understand is if MIKE PENCE GETS CORONA virus, it's not like he's going to show up to an overcrowded hospital and they're gonNA tell them to f. off because they don't have the resources to take him in and treat him. That's average. Americans are going to deal with and that's assuming they have healthcare coverage and. Feel comfortable walk into a hospital without having to deal with bankruptcy later. So the the point that I wish people overall average Americans would understand is that the world that these people live in that trump administration officials live in is very different from the world that average Americans live in if you get sick and El Paso and your average American you show up. It's very likely right now considering how overwhelmed their hospitals are at the moment that you'll get turned away that there's no way that you're going to get the treatment you need, and that's again assuming that you have healthcare coverage. Let's say you don't have health care coverage in your lucky enough to get taken in by a hospital that isn't overwhelmed. You're very likely going to deal with bankruptcy later on I mean we live in a different world than members of trump's administration there. So brazen about their. For human. Lives it's unbelievable to me absolutely is okay. Now Three of El Paso in Utah let me read you a quote from how Utah's handling the overflow at their hospitals quote this is from Here I'll give you the source in a second. Local paper he said they said under the proposed rationing criteria patients who are getting worse despite receiving intensive care would be moved out I people who are getting worse would be moved out of intensive care. I why. Because there are ready to die. A hold on. Let me keep reading. The. Back to the quote if to patients conditions are equal. The young get priority over the old says, older patients are more likely to die. That's a literal quote. from the Salt Lake tribute. Guys you know what that is. That's a desk panel. Literally literally there, and I don't blame the hospitals when I don't blame them for asking for guidance from the Utah State government or the federal government. I'm overflowing I do not have enough beds I do not have enough doctors and nurses I've got to prioritize tell me who I should die and who I should try to save. So that is a fair question under the circumstances, but the government has gotten so bad. So incompetent. So inept and now mark meadows declaring no, we're not gonNA, try to contain the disease. They've got to give them guidance on who to put on a death panel. So I mean after. They made up thing a call death panels about obamacare and pretended they cared so deeply about it. Now we have actual death panels in the country under trump. They're like, who cares ban just let him die from the pro-life Party. The herd immunity idea don't wear masks. We'll all get it and eventually it'll go away means yes. When we all get it, a certain percentage will die. We've already had a couple of hundred thousand. That means a lot more people will die and. Death Panel. So what we'll ration care Now. On top of all this use love. Republicans. Some Corporate Democrats almost all the media. Asking Camera Harrison. You Guys Socialists are you in favour socialized medicine Wait are you in favour of privatize medicine privatize medicine his? Along with the trump administration is what's killing these people in the first place. So if you don't understand the guys, this is so important not only do I want you to know this, but I want you to go tell your family members and friends. This is true and you can look for yourself. The rest of the world is they're dealing with corona virus. They don't have to worry about paying for tests treatment or any of that. They just show up and get treatment because they have socialized medicine everybody gets treatment. Here in America while do you have the money? You don't have the money, go die You have another issue we're not containing it anymore go die oh I didn't make a profit off of you staying alive go die. The. Rest of the world thinks were barbaric. You're gonNa tell me that there's somebody who's got corona virus and you'RE GONNA reject healthcare for them and we go yeah. Sure. Why not the rest of the world goes you guys are nuts you let your own citizens die that way. But we go. Yeah. But we protect them by spending all of our money on. The, defense industry. What are you talking about WHO's invading? America. So you wasted all of your money on tanks and missiles and all these things that you never even use, and when people are actually time by the hundreds of thousands inside your country you just let them died Yup. This system we have here is absolutely. Immoral and barbaric yes. We need to have universal healthcare like the rest of the civilized world, and that is not where we are. So which then when we're talking about non civilized world leads me to Fox News. Fox News. As a contagion. Corona virus spreading throughout the building. Say with me. of course, it is now their top anchors are having to quarantine. Where do they get it? They got it while covering the last debate and was it because they might have been exposed to Republicans. Likely Yeah. All the Democrats where mass the Republicans don't wear Mass Fox News covering the debate gets corona virus. I wonder where they got it from. Now it could have been from something else. It could have been at airport et CETERA. But. He could not have been on a plane they were sharing with others because one of my favorite parts of this story is They apparently got sick on their private jet on the way back to New York or due to clap. Okay. Well, that must be nice. Well, we'll turned out not to be so nice because then they spread into one another and they're all gonNa have to quarantine. So the guys are quarantining now where the president of Fox media. Fox, news media J Wallace. Enjoy this irony cheap political anchor Bret Baier. Martha McCallum Dana Perino one Williams now do we wish ill on any of them their staffers or the people quarantining the people is whose names I read our quarantining they don't necessarily they haven't tested positive for coronavirus yet they're getting tests now. So do I wish them. Poor health of course not. And especially because there are people like Juan, Williams in their who've been fighting the good fight trying to tell the Fox News audience you guys are nuts and he got exposed as well. The staffers God knows what their political affiliations are and I feel terrible for them. But for the folks on air who kept telling people, it's not a big deal. Now, it turns out, they gotta quarantine themselves in the middle of this election. Is Hard to feel a tremendous amount of sympathy for them. So. I'll quote the president who they love so much it is what it is. All right we'll be. John. If you know me, you know I love dogs and I always want the best for my pets. Do. 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I was muted I'm not anymore I was GONNA say. I did. I couldn't tell I couldn't hear you or the whole company. All right. Sorry. My mic was muted. Okay. Mark. Zuckerberg did not do it. Let's talk about Santa. So health. Health and Human Services scrapped a strange current virus program involving Santa Claus performers wasting two hundred, fifty million dollars in taxpayer money. Now, the brainchild of this project was Michael Caputo who's still on a sixty day medical leave because he spouted insane conspiracy theories. But let me tell you about what this plan entailed. HHS Assistant Secretary Michael Caputo wanted the Santa performers to promote the benefits of a covid nineteen vaccination and an exchange offered them. Early, vaccine access ahead of the general public according to audio recordings those who perform as Mrs Claus and elves also would have been included. Now, there were some issues here and the main issue was that while this might seem like a public health PSA coordinated. Pr Stunt really at the heart of what was going on was more pro-trump campaigning and so officials kind of figured out what was going on they scrapped the project again, a caboodle Caputo is still on a sixty day medical leave. But here's here he is saying that Santa, claus performers are essential workers who are incredibly important to this 'cause listen. I help. Her. Back there. Paul. Your colleagues Know what. Look. I love? You. So Person Oh Oh that was real. That was real. No it was real. Okay, let me just say the person who was Jojo Hoeing. He's he sounds like a lovely gentleman is name is Rick? Irwin he's the chairman of the fraternal order. Of. Real. Bearded Santas. I just loved that that's the thing ended exists and I love that Santa Claus performers have some representations that makes that genuinely makes me happy but anyway Caputo's insane and finally hhs realize what was going on they had to scrap the project but they wasted two hundred, fifty, million dollars in taxpayer money on the project before it was scrapped, it's just out of control I have more details, Jank why don't you jump it? So first of all in the Santa's They wanted to make sure that they get them out there by mid-september. Santa's in mid-september. Wouldn't it makes sense to get people the vaccine information because that was supposed to be the vaccine information. Number One when the vaccine comes out, it hasn't come out yet. And number two around the time that you would normally see. Santa. Gee, I wonder why they wanted it in September and October instead. what happens right after October all in November third there's the election I'm sure that had nothing to do with it. They just wanted. Sanity. Early early Santa gets the worm so. Look I. I don't know whether to make light of it or not. Because normally, the fact that Michael Caputo is on leave for having a mental breakdown is not something you'd be light hearted about. But. They're treating Caputo's ideas like they weren't mental. To be fair. To Caputo. Why trump signed on the same? You know leave heating trump says the same things as Caputo trump believes the same conspiracies as Caputo Caputo said, Oh, my God trump's GonNa love the saint idea does anyone think that he would have loved idea of Santa coming out in October to tell people that there's a vaccine when there isn't one? So I mean then you really gotta break a couple of different piece of news to your kids about the vaccine and Santa So. So, there were there were several things wrong with this plan number one There's no vaccine and he was planning as though a vaccine had already been approved and he had promised that the Santa performers would be able to get like get early access to the vaccine if they take part in this project and so I mean it was it was a win win for the performers and it really did get their hopes up because keep in mind like. Because of Corona virus, they're worried about their livelihood they're worried about whether or not. They're going to get the seasonal work that many of them rely on and so this got their hopes up when it came to that. But it also got their hopes up in regard to having early access to a vaccine, which again doesn't quite exist yet. There are some promising studies being done right now some promising. updates on it, but we still don't have a firm date or affirm vaccine to rely on also the coronavirus add effort titled Cove Nineteen Public Health and reopening America Public Service announcements and advocacy advertising campaigns. It was very lengthy was intended to defeat despair, inspire hope and achieve national recovery It was to include television radio online podcast announcements starting immediately but as I mentioned earlier and we did talk about this story at least a portion of the story earlier. There were celebrities who were supposed to take part in this including Dennis. Quaid and they ended up dropping out once they realized that this was really more about pro-trump campaigning than it was about spreading accurate information for public health reasons. In fact, here's Dennis Quaid getting real salty about it in an instagram video. I did a PSA burden Dr Anthony Fauci, and he was kind enough to grant me an interview as well and the interview and PSA were about raising awareness. Of covid nineteen in what we can still do to prevent. Lives being lost our this terrible terrible virus. was about the importance of wearing a mask about social distancing and it was a inouye political in fact, Dr Anthony found you and I both. talked about it before that. It was not to be political viruses is not political. I was not paid one penny. For doing this interview and neither was Dr Anthony Fauci. I, am really disappointed. Some people who call themselves legitimate. Reporters don't do their homework. Okay Mister Quaid but like I get that in his mind, this was all about and I'm sure he had no idea that this was really meant to put out pro-trump propaganda head of the campaign. I'm positive. He had no idea that that was really the heart of this whole project but. The trump administration is known for pulling these kinds of tricks instead of getting angry at the media, maybe get a little frustrated at the lack of communication between you and whoever was communicating with you from the trump administration. But anyway, he's not at Fault Dennis. Quaid. As not at fault he thought he was doing a kind thing a good thing and unfortunately he got the short end of the stick so I don't want anyone to get upset. With him but this is the kind of stuff. These are the types of stunts that members of the trump administration pull all the time, and again I'm going to just mentioned that two hundred, fifty, million dollar figure because while you have right wingers nickel and diming the American public when it comes to krona virus relief, there's just throwing money away at nonsense like this it's it's just infuriating. Yes. So first of all on Dennis Quaid. I'll double down and he didn't do anything wrong and he said later. People saying this was to help trump nothing could be further from the truth. So that's an interesting indication. And certainly, if you're and you're talking to found, you don't necessarily think you're doing anything political at all. But one of the reasons why people are getting on is because I think they're confusing for his brother. Randy, Quaid is full blown mental and supports Donald Trump one hundred and twenty percent. So I mean if you've ever seen any randy equates. Videos online. You're like, Whoa what in the world happened to that guy so he? Has got to be super frustrated, given the situation and what people are assuming about him. But you know and I keep using the word mental here and people say, Oh, Hey Chang is that right or whatever but guys there's. A giant percentage of this country thirty to forty percent of the country who are following. People with. Mental breakdowns whether it's Caputo it's Roseanne. Barr Glenn. Beck. Randy. Quaid. Rudy Giuliani Donald Trump Kanye west, you name it, and then they. So if people were not taking them seriously and they were getting them mental health counseling, I'd be the first one in line. Yes. Let's get them help right. But when they say no, no, they're not crazy Randy Quaid Donald Trump and Giuliani, have it figured out and it's because The fake media is creating a covert covert. Colbert is trump is saying and they won't you know maybe I should make it illegal for them to talk about it. Well. If you're going to say that that I'm going to call you mental and so don't don't pretend that these people don't have mental health problems when they clearly do you keep pretending it, I'm gonNA keep pointing it out now back to the program. Finally. Looked two, hundred, fifty, million dollars a giant amount of money even for the government. That's a huge amount of money and don't get it twisted if they actually had a vaccine and they were doing real public service announcements to tell people how to take it and how to be saved about it. They'd be nothing wrong with that. The problem here was turn out that it was just propaganda for trump and when people realize that they're like, no no, you're not allowed to do that. You can't pretend to be helping people with vaccine that doesn't even exist. In order to do trump commercials right before the election not only is that ethically wrong it's actually also illegal. It's violation of the Hatch Act. I'm sure to which trump's. So what I'm above the law they they impeach me and those Senate Republicans there my dogs and they told me, I break any law likes I broke that one too. Well. That's true. They are your dogs and they do allow you to break any law. You want it still doesn't make it right and and people should not participate in it. 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With you guys. There's only these left before the election obviously come here for election day not just night. But like she in day I might turn into election week but it starts at ten am Pacific one, pm Eastern. John Role is going to kick it off and we are going to be here throughout the day in. At all and most of our hosts are going to join us throughout the day as well. It's going to be amazing GonNa, tune in progressive as well. So. Can't wait come and see. Now I'm GonNa go to you guys the members. Charlie said what a horrible idea. Progressive Pirates said that the Santa Satellite Jank. Some truth to that. Pocket. Pocket road in. Oh come on Jank you know very well that the reasons Santa's are coming in mid September because they won the war on Christmas in the month of September through November or the spoils of war. Good Point I hadn't considered that. 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So any conybeare it is set to be confirmed by the republican-controlled Senate and it's likely to happen today landing Donald Trump his third that's three supreme. Court confirmations before the upcoming election. The final vote is scheduled at seven thirty PM eastern time on Monday meaning that the if things are going scheduled, it's happening right now as we speak thirty days after trump announced, he was nominating Barrett for the seat left vacant by Justice Ruth Bader. GINSBURG who died on September eighteenth the vote could be held later though, if Democrats forced delays, which means that the vote is happening right now Democrats are not able to do anything. incl- including forced delays the White House is considering holding swearing in ceremony for Barrett after the vote either late Monday meaning tonight or Tuesday according to an administration official. Now, there were some attempts by Democrats to filibuster but to filibuster virtually let's see how that went. I everybody and thank you for joining us for our or our wasted digital rally. We're going to right through until seven PM tonight, which is when we think Mitch McConnell and your Republican led Senate are going to hold vote on Eighty County Barrett boat vote early over with your friends call everyone you know across the. Make your voices, Earth. HOW WE WILL END HIJACKING OF OUR DEMOCRACY So it's exciting to see how everyone is mobilizing people from coast to coast demand that our Supreme Court remain our court. With that much at stake. I'm voting no a judge birds domination. Thank you for having me here today at all, you've done to support the cause of equal cheaper justice under the law we number. This isn't Donald Trump country. It is America's and yeah. This should be donald trump's judge it should be yours. But we have the final word and the final word is this election Mitch McConnell and Senate Republicans know that you want to vote before the Senate does. Make sure. They know that you do not want your healthcare terminated by president trump. So keep speaking out keep telling your stories. Know, your voices make a difference. I know that we're going to keep fighting. To, protect our health care. Well. That looks like it really worked No Clarence Thomas is going to administer a constant the constitutional oaths Amy Coney Barrett. Tonight, based on Fox News is reporting. So full steam ahead the Republicans have the votes necessary to confirm Coney Barrett, and one more point I want to make before I toss to you Jank so. Similar Lisa Murkowski Had some strong words you I know this is wrong. I think that we should wait until the next president gets elected in that president gets to decide who the next Supreme Court justice to be confirmed should be and she has changed her tune. So according to NBC News Senator Murkowski reverse course over the weekend and said that she would vote in favor of the nomination despite. Previously voicing opposition to confirming a justice before election. Day Senator Susan Collins. Who is one of the most vulnerable Senate Republicans running for reelection said that she would vote against. Barrett. So Murkowski is yes collins is a no but it doesn't matter because as we know the Senate Republicans have enough votes to confirm Amy Conybeare Okay I have a lot say first of all owner criticizes. Who put that together in terms of the progressive groups that were involved, they're trying their best not there. But now let me clarify for the Democratic senators involved. There is no such thing as digital filibuster. That's a made up. It's not a thing in law. There's no such thing as a filibuster for Supreme Court justices because Mitch McConnell, took it away. Right now. Joe Biden is reluctant takeaway. The filibuster if the Democrats get the house, the Senate and the White House. Without taking away the filibuster on legislative issues, the Democrats will get exactly zero past nothing will be passed Mitch. McConnell. Took away the Supreme Court filibuster in a second. He didn't immediately without any hesitation because he plays hardball Democrats meanwhile are still playing patty cakes. So there is no filibuster could have done anything. Yes. When Amy Conybeare was announced I told you guys there was five different legislative. Maneuvers, they could have done to delay the proceedings and they only needed to delay by about a week, and here we are eight days before the election and they couldn't even late one day not one minute not one second because there are no such things as digital filibusters there's actually legislative moves. You can go back and watch our videos to get all the details of what they have done. Out of the five maneuvers have any they did. Zero did absolutely none of them and so this whole expanding the court I'll just give you one example. What why was that a ninety in the first place it was so to tell the Republicans try to put. Barrett on the court. Okay then you're going to force us to expand the court. So we're telling you right now you put her on the court and we're GONNA put four New People on the court or three or five or whatever it is, and it'll be out of our hands because you'll force our hands. So don't you dare do it instead they were like I don't know we might pack the court later. That's not a political threat, and then what happened and then since you didn't know what the hell you were doing, and honestly on this one Joe Biden was totally incompetent in became a liability because he never told people why they were thinking of expanding the court they never actually send us because you're putting Barrett on the court and you block garland seemed like out of nowhere the Democrats want to unfairly the accord because they suck at this and I get frustrated because the media is a bunch of flippers for the Democratic Establishment. So are you ever going to point out epic incompetence? You couldn't democratic leadership couldn't get Merrick. Garland on the court and head over a year over a year they're putting the Republicans are putting Barrett on the court with a week left before the election and yet every media person when you asked them, Hey, what do you think Pelosi and Schumer Brilliant Master tacticians Joe by never brilliant brilliant. Really the way constantly give away all of our advantages. The Republicans are such geniuses and then when I criticize them now. People say. Jank this is not the time to criticize. When do we criticize after she's on the court? Well, right before the election and remember what they're saying the video vote for me give me power to do what to do what you just boggled. One of the most important issues you remember what they say you gotTa vote for Democrats because of the Supreme Court here they go screw the Supreme Court, we're not gonNA, do anything stopped the Supreme Court nomination but I anyway wait a minute. That's the exact opposite of what you've been telling us for decades and you know the Other point of that was not actually block her it was to raise money for their own power fine. No problem as long as you use that power to get people in the Supreme Court into block their nominees but you don't because you are historically bad at politics but yet no one in the media will call them out. All right. We gotta go to post game what a corporate Democrat did to car Eastman is beyond outrageous. So we're GONNA do the post-game for members hit the button below see there in a minute. Hey this is John and roller from Ty T. if you enjoy listening to this podcast, then you should definitely check out the daily podcast for my show the damage report these days were confronted with an overwhelming see of shocking confounding and devastating news stories and at the damage where Your Life Raft helping you navigate today's news and understand which stories you need to pay attention to and why if you enjoy the damage, make sure to subscribe and give us a five star rating and a glowing review.

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"This is an ABC podcast. Jack Charles is now in cities. Jack is an actor who performed in some classic Australian films and stage productions. Jackson respected Eldon and a former Victorian senior of the year. But he's also been a cat burglar. A heroin addict and he's been incarcerated twenty two times. Jack doesn't do any of that stuff now and he thinks he can help young aboriginal kids who like he wants was confused and angry. And profoundly disconnected from the culture. Throughout his childhood Jack Charles had no idea who is mother was. And he went looking for him, he got arrested. Because, it was legal theme to even try. Jack has had a wild wildlife and despite several bouts of bad behavior, some is getting more and more handsome old. Jack has written a completely engrossing memoir, which I devoured in one great big hit, and just a quick warning. He story does contain some pretty confronting elements Jack. Charles's book is called born again Black Fella hijack. Hey, Richard, very good to be on your show. What is your beauty secret? I am twenty years younger than you and I look like crap. Fantastic! What's your secret check? What does it now not at the Rot Black Change? Wearing sometimes you say it in my face and I always like to tell people. I look devilishly handsome because I'm off the drugs. We'll so my. you know. My drive. Body Had survived. All that I think once he clean yourself once. You're biding by the doctor's orders once. You're true to yourself. somehow or not, you have this fresh complexion and. I'm seventy six you. Occasionally look in the mirror of a morning. Say The fair look and say the face and that are just totally amazed that high look as good as I do even without by the tape in. Where were you born Jack All his? Royal Women's hospital grabbed straight cotton in nineteen forties free September. and. Mom had managed to take me dashes pedic between Melvin and Shiva Marina and dashes black fellow camp the rubbish dump, so you would take an from your on their four months, and then delivered to the city mission babies home in Brunswick. And when I got two big at two years old a little knife was attached to me and I was delivered to box hill. Boy Time. What was the? Our taking onto these simulation policy remember. Show I didn't get that criminal record. That is people got when taken in the fifties. When you would take into box hill, boys hon a salvation army, please. Describe the building for me. There was one great big huge mansion at the front. It's still stands as a matter of fact, but the rest of them where hawks. To three different times, and that and the main buildings were solid eight, as and they had their anders and etcetera, but yeah all built. and. We'll being raised for future wolves, and that soldiers of the Cross. Did you like that kind of muscular? 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I'll couldn't remember any of them, but it was significant truly. Locked in the notion that I want the AENEID registered aboriginal kid. Dan Nice guys remembered me. You wrote about how you and the other boys were abused by a particularly. Vile Sexual. Predator in place wanted to stuff you. A few of them. Well I n. was approached in my last jail. Sentence Mama I former comrades. We're all collecting done at port. Phillip Prison and I said to me. You remember from box hill bozon according, remember a goes and I, said well, Jack we remember you. We are part of a class action against the box hill, boys, time and officers sounds own. My own captain sound so. We'd like your phone number. To give to the class action lawyers. Because I believe you the best blow check to give credence invalidate the stories of what went on the bucks'll boys on so sure enough I gave them my phone number and shortly outdraw voter data the jail Royan Cal Thomas. Rang. We and I guide them your story. I have a defined years. This happened and that happened, but really basically offers the first person that he approached. My bid was the first person he approached because. Opposite lead. He's little cubbyhole. Attached to the Dhamma trade so all this stuff I remembered. Langdale like a a mouse winter when I when I snug as about two pounds. Being individually and that. It was brutal. And it was Reagan. And it was something to be. Tolerated and none of us ever spoke about. Iran Ben. TOBAC- came out, there was A. Should Day was a native version on on the say, and some fellas had Britain had phoned up Bronco. We just saw Jaggi child's on the television. We thought he was dead, but we'd like to tell you what avid to him, so I had. Some stories validates developed some of the cruel and unusual punishment, totally forgotten or pill in the back of MON, Mon.. Sexual compared that I had to endure A. So? It wasn't until this time is later that we got to talk about. How do you? How does it feel talking about this now? After all this time Jack even worse once the Catholic stories started to come out with published a met. It took me into great depressions in that. but I, live with more depression have to live with. Guitar close by and Mall Units, and I just sort of seeing myself out of them, but it never goes. Elaine was talking about it talking about it. He's just fantastic. That actually and I got from from that from the salvos. Owner and I got a hundred grand because it was proven beyond us. Head of doubt that this happened. Because many people gave evidence. About me off giving one hundred grand for what went on in Buffalo Boys on. A bookish kid with your places where you go in that time and be alone. Yes apple tree. And the back of the school. And when you're up that tree. With the magazine, and never poundstone may or but died on me. I used to do it regularly. A tray of the weekends away from the maddening mobs. You said it was in this game that you learnt the art of acting Jackass hotter well. When you not? You were forced to put on gloves. And be locked in the gym with the biggest kid. And I remember now the being. Bought a couple of the kids, naughty boy apparently and I didn't turn up the master or something like that late for dinner. Or not, and often punished, but David was one kid in the home who flatly twice to bash main and he said Jack. We looked up in here loan. Okay, are not going to. Have to Mike. Adler been hating. You will make some Sam's. End just. Before I, L yell out to open the door on gun US Latvia. Now if gotTa make you cry. Jack. Chef, so I was doing you know he was thumping east fisted. Leader and Going Oh. And and then I. Slept me in the face and of a tear up and come out trying sniffling. That'd be. That'd be enough that'd be. So, that was my acting, but you have to. ACT A lot. We kids are resilient and they were sometimes. I had to act. against. The the bigger bullyish kids. With this elevation army officers was all an act with the ladies are put on a good act because I. Indeed Marcel to them that I was lead into the kitchen even. Mr Johnson were staring the porridge, and we had a wonderful time because I witnessed her teeth falling into the porridge one time she had them at. Washerman put them and we had a good old for. We keep this quiet Jackie. You really do have a very beguiling voice. Have you always been charming? Do you think that has that stood you in good stead? Yes, yes, well. They was a teacher in the home who took me aside? And he gave me personally after hours, non sexual like that that really comfortable with him, and he taught me elocution. Listen gave me elocution lessons the ranch. The Rain Interval Kardashian right in laws doolittle, our is A. Little. And he died. And, I was really upset and remember being best bought the big boys for crying at his fellows, but I was really taken with that. Fella he really? and the head teacher. You know just before I left the home I on fourteen are remember him hugging me. Close closely, and it wasn't. One of those sexual hugs was a hug. I Henry Friction looking at him a much thought. I was GONNA leave a terrible life. Home! And it. So happened that it wasn't so terrible. Did you have any sense of your ever regionality? Then? Jack Avenue I knew that every. And what did that mean to you? Well? All the Black Fella one of the fellows that killed Captain Cook the boys told me. Why that's crazy. Netflix allergy sometimes you know. jumped upon sometimes. Did you ever since you being a second class citizen for being a black kid back then? Dollars a bit of a novelty. Your exotic thing. Be She's. Chosen specifically but. To be in the right spot at the right time to showcase. I do remember. Going to beat salvation, army exhibition at the exhibition buildings, and always paid with his pretty good. My saw is we were there. The hand have Posey's to those in bright on the day. She cooks he's on curtsied causes a stir in the rumbling. May I enjoy the attention, but I had been trained to sing a song. Specially chosen to seeing on the big stage of God I like to say. and. She likes dislikes the colour. Shaw's one time be yary. Year dwelled N. right. Here made thick Bush. Yom Trays tall with a shrew boomerang know their shops players. They knew every bird Bush coal. Went Walk about in Cam far away. Every body free and Run into forest trees swimming in. A stream live went on with them now. K. F. Coca, Barra la with clad. Kangaroo, gum or joy aborigines row a boomer rain. THOUARS Birger Game Mary. Choose saying there amid the bride yellow belong some Brighton while to red. Gum flos aimed everybody lead Dan glad. All because the white man. You can see what I was ready for that punchline at the end. He an overnight! Thank you for making. Me Because. It's part of WHO I am. The chosen one to see especially in the Salvation Army, so you lift boxer boys hundred fourteen and you were taken into foster home. was run by a widow Mrs Murphy. Who was shaking me about her, please? He worked up cartridge factory. She was the mother of a woman that had me out often. Nominee Gore and Kevin Nick husband. They, come in and pick me up in their. Austin is seven. I didn't did Marcel to her. She had sons. On Geez year. Apprentice Mechanics and Would I NAS? Lovely to me either I think me around on their bikes, would you? Were you considering becoming a budget? Yourself Jack Del. Pipe pants but Mrs. Murphy wouldn't allow me in. She Fletcher Jones got instead. Send pictures of you that time, and you really are like a very very presentable young man. Oh very presentable in my ear, she looked to me. Jari I've seen some of the letters that Dritan to the original wealthy Lord to get more funding for clothing. Etc How did you family life for the first time was there great experience, but at every turn you know as she did not me back from queries about my mom I had experienced in hand. Before I left some experiences that led me to believe that I did have family. I wasn't northern as she and the welfare bowed, insisted that I was. Did you have an inkling that you might be guy that points. Yes. Yes even at that age and being being a member of the of the church as it was packed into that fraud new bother. You will not mother neighbor I've never liked flying footy for. United and that. Goes! To tenpy. A. I kept to myself even though I had group at. The ten or eleven? So you got a job at a glass factory, mailing factory and and the boss. Introduced. You to all sorts of interesting people. Yeah, yeah, yeah, hey, always bring around. He's Mites to make the little aboriginal boy were in the back there and one Tommy. Board around is bloat. Is it Jack? I want you to meeting another might of mine. Don Bradman Jack Charles so at fifteen I short the hands of Donald Bradman unbelievable and the boys at work you. They said United have all. Jack, Ma, now didn't. That was not sporty type really and I. Well I shook the hand of a religion. And the irony is Martin with the ABC was with a series called behind the legend and I had to play Eddie. Gilbert the heart your first ball from Jergen Ball. Donald Bradman out. Toss Doc. So, come in full circle then it came advil to say so. You said You were asking Mrs. Murphy Your Foster Mother. Who you called. To repeatedly about. How you suspect suspected, you might have some brothers and sisters. What made you think that you might? Well I told him about the young feller that came into box hill a month before I left, and he's last name Charles. Off The child's. And what did you say when you say though I've met a fellow? That might be my brother. I needed Mrs Murphy wasn't a religious woman. So I used to sneak out and they did win. Win died together. The methods of service in the black village used to sneak out to go to church Wa on a Sunday night i. if that's Very Naughty, oh very naughty! Rugby Laugh, she came in one time to boulders bras. Drag me up on my ear all very upset with the rest of the church people. You take my boy out, you know. How do you gotta? Go to work tomorrow. Out of that. But I kept on going back to that church. We had a little group. There are social drove and at one time we typed on up to the boarding Gills to put on a concert for let it'll go. And I'm too little girl I've watched all bills with these little lifelock have original tildren Nicole I just had to go. And then names, the elder the two shyly responds I'm as my and this consistory for John Well. What does mind-blowing cord? Giles, she says child's. Child's to ladies be funny, brothers and sisters and be. The system in box hill and win. Lighten just not allowed to tell us that we are indeed brothers and sisters. So, what was it that made you interested in finding out who you might be related to? What got you to actually take some action in that regard? Check well also in the fifties sometime mid fifties. noncolored uncle. Of Mine came into the bulk boy time to take me out for a picnic. Henry and Amy Child. Came in his big flesh Chevrolet and took me sorry park crushed the home, and it was one of the, and they said I'm your uncle. Your Haughty and. They didn't come back the next. Sunday although I've. Gone to and put on Masami best the next Sunday your another visitation, but it happened, so you knew you had relatives some I knew. I had relative because I said. So, where did you go looking for family when you wanted to stop trying to find out? Who Your family was well the first time yelling at. Sixteen, participants. Nearly finishing of my apprentice. was. That behest of the boys that were is a Blackfellas Ivoirian Fitzroy. Jackie and I bet you got family amongst them. You guys save yourself. Show I went to Fitzroy took the bullet went on up there. Do not with a full pipette that are normally have to take him to miss. Yana opened and what happened when you got off the tram at the corner. Australian on the Corner Navien goodrich straight when it's all black fellow pulled me up. chows give branchy Giles's boy, and of course I me sell all all. He grabs me and high demand kisses me. He's recognized me. We can recognize people. Indigenous people even though we know who we are. Those many of the challenges in with small paper or smaller are look like my mom and look like my sister's. Apparently to how long have you been standing on the street? Before someone came up and said you. You'll blanche you child. Jumped off that Tran. Walkin past. Fellaini grabbed me and he you know as I said after this Haagen kitchen business, he a forced march map to build his arms, and of course into another world when I walk into that building. You hadn't been in a pub before. Before the cows crossed. Couldn't you know not a drinker? Walked in every place in the place to be black and he science. Jobs here. Favorite, coming up to me signed at them oncle Auntie. Cousins and that and then. Truly I, would they be hugs and kisses, and that and then all want all lady -cribe to your mom's Lebron up in just one ill young belly. You should go under the We like tell that I get what did they? Do you discover? Your Mom's living up near Swan? Hill Victoria well. I will for me. I had dried intentions of going back to mom telling you even adult Christmas holidays coming up soon I'll go opt in and aside from that. What was it like being in a room? Full of Aboriginal Men and women British Gary Really Oh. Yes, she. Didn't feel like these. These people pretty scary. You know, but at the same time. Oliveri welcomed at the same time. So when you get when you lift the pub whatever when you back to meet Mrs Menefee. Well I jumped up on the doorstep, and said joy joy, my just spell mum. I expected to share my joy, but notch lap. She rendered a story out of me. Mind nod in the Fitzroy puppy recognizes the child, but still multi packet ripped open, and third of it spent this. RAWLS are now Angie comes at me dies. People tell you anything. Yeah, when I say I'm raising my hand. Am I GONNA hit? The fried in there is. To be Jesus before Beckett off. She I I put my Djaama's them settle down. When she calls me to the front door, a place Davey wagon parked in the drive and driven either to Royal Park for juvenile offenders, Richard. Award of the State, a child of the crowd and would've been until I nineteen and that woman I've called. Mom had done me unruly disobedient so for the first time. I remember being locked alone in a cell. Cry. macelve- to slate well, how does that it? How could you be arrested and incarcerated? Jialing offense I got laptop for that for one offense. What did you? Into what Fitch Roy mixing up with a black dwellers on that finding my roots. Would, act acted you break the assimilation act. Probably, the Assimilation Act is my dad. I was Jialing offense for many of us here in endured thought. The homes and who filed foster and adopted people. Were locked up in giant I saw the next day the light of day. It was. The first becomes familiar series of incarcerations, and when I get laid out the next morning there I say many of the other filed Brian or an all as Outta fellows that had filed their foster and adopted table. Check your foster mother Mrs Murphy. She'd been I. Suppose kind to you and healers con. But? She called the police to take you away. Mahan what this was. This was our so pissed off with her for not believing me when I said they were. Does she do that. She was a spot was because I found. My real mom is is. years years, and finally realizing it was the end of a good thing. If, I were little, aboriginal boy, John was moving away from her at. Her control and that was. Standing for himself. Object I. Think I think all of us. Parents have that with their kids, but we don't call the cops. That's that's. Did you feel betrayed? Oh yes. Yes, I felt very slide. I've very really upset. And your time to go back to Click my state bank book, so she didn't want you in the house anymore if you didn't want me anymore. About. My Rana Gleam Hi boss rang up and said well as my favorite little aboriginal WICCA. Love Loving I'm finished. So he came by me out your boss powder out me out and put me in a dental residents, Glenn Ferry. And Journal. Within Morgan Spice all been where I worked and. Being Independent. In. Still yet a year of becoming eighteen. that. I started to fend for myself started to think for myself. Nobody really ordering me about Nigger Soren eastbound at any welfare board member out to that I had the welfare system and I didn't want about to do with me anymore. Child I had the national I would route to the Swan, Hill police and thawed out if they know of my mom, and of course I got a letter from the sergeant, so yes, Jack are now you're long. She's living here between on the. Between Moulmein and Swan Hill and I said well. I intend to come up the next Christmas holidays three weeks off from work and I told my boss I said well I'll book your Flight Update Jack. PODCAST. Broadcast and online. You're listening to conversations with Richard Fidler. Find out more about the conversations podcast. Just head to ABC dot net dot edu slash conversations. So you bust wanted you back. He was he was lovely to you and. I love the work ethic. Loved all that. How were you introduced to a life of crime from? As, the is being delivered, indicated very led me to wear all as young criminals settling on a life of pronto already by the time I. Arrive the. Gentleman drizzles nearby and we used to stop at. Does it feels dance many of guy they'd. Always on the side of locating at the gentleman Israeli I've I do remember one fellow signed to me. Can you WANNA do a big with me? What a what what do you mean what's? On breaking into shopping. Burglary. Impressionable me I must have fancied in. Join, English really beautiful kid and I wanted to do is bidding appreciably. He got. Up to cigarettes, but he on the long in machined, trickling through the front window. And landed straight into the arms of. That would be waiting for him. And by the time I go to my Canada ones residents. The Jackson him were sitting on my bed widening. So, you've done for breaking and entering Jianqing Enter jail. Child so sick Tom. You've been in casseroles. Just on. What did you make pinch when? Entries Yaser exciting to be in which you know, a lot of other box hill, boys and boys were they able? To Boys, were they? Already gangsters many of them and added. A lot of data layer I walked him with ox blood put tired shoes. I was aside and I've always. You know well-spoken middle ever you know Fella who if you give him some. Or some Chelsea. He'll Rachi leaders for you so out of prison. You took the gloss factory again. This boss seem to be really quite lovely with you. And this was a roundabout. At the time you decided you would try and make contact with your mom. You heard was near Swan. Hill headed you do that. Jack I add tomorrow later. Had two well the Guy Hill. I'm meeting, mum. Check I hear some extra money a bonus. We're giving you a bonus track and all of that lot. WHO's a very? Simple minded couldn't have done because. I did it because of the you know. He allowed that happened, and so I flew up on him and landed Dan that was wonderful flying in a plane. Fish experience that. We landed at Suon on their. Hundred from police. Drivers into Swan Hill took us around across the border to the Federal l'hotel and lifted around the back the hotel, r soule's little hutch, black fellow camp with like something out of a slave quarters, the deep South America nationwide. Stay here. I'll arrange for left to take you to. Mom Jack and I suggest to buy a condo Melvin bidder. Your mom likes to drink. Check I swear. He's exact with all will. So I bought a COP Babangida put next to my property in my luggage, and it was a couple of hours before I was due to be picked up. Buddy saw couple. Also to the Swan Hill. Them Swim Fish. Shot across the Board mocked up to the Swan Hill and that and I'm standing there and get your money. Back today and the woman sater's all not allowed to swim day. In. I got the money the money and now. You swim here. You gotta get the the Mari Day from. nonplus by experience of Country Racism and that I was so struck dead, the big fella behind me, we these kids. Participate reassigned. Dad. Get out the why. A villa. So when this couple pick you up. Yes I took out Taylor. We know a your mom lives. We know the property check, so we're. You'll away and say we go to the property where I'm lives. Then, we drive along this wonderful driveway, and I see a beautiful White House in the distance. Nour's. Leave their right, and suddenly we offer track to a track. And there's he's happy. Twelve with dogs and two full of prefix, and there's my mom warling towards me and. I I signed him among toward me. Look to you when she was working. For looked a little like manny. Beautiful Black Hair? We had. Long Time. It's good to see your son. Member on the fishbone over the first one taken and she welcome to be. I realized that she d like the drink. They were obeyed set up to May APP saw it under a canvas roof. It was hard to get anything out of her. I hadn't realized he was. They're basically ostracized by the rest of New South Wales and Victoria. Ostracize. In fifty was that murder, that merit was the payback law for this man's behavior towards the children, the women in the flat fellow camp up in Griffith's. She was the one Nicole the meeting. Commonly called a sergeant people still now her my mom, as the sergeant was Nick Knight. That was anytime. So she organized what some Aboriginal Law Law payback against these managed by towards the women and children in the camp, and the men's women's and for that, she was ostracized. So this she's on the on the on. Societies May. Going to pop up a bank account united get money Anna Adema Bank, and that she would have a lot of arguments, which some of the women back solid camp and she would off me to. How many kids did she have taken from her jacket while Lennon, let to died of. All eleven kids were taken. Geneva got to raise any loves. She got to rise. is my in Asia. And Arty until the little ones, then now taken missile each and every one of us would take, and and the last one Jennifer is taken shortly thereafter. Does that explain. Just. Behavior. Why behavior and I fix somehow or another. Addiction model sent me a pop, but on either an effort to be part of her life. John, did you add clarion? Her job was to look at the five surrounding bomblets and so I learned to drive a Ford. Prefect utility mom used to do it. But, Dominate now on the man and. Charged with gallon to one of the properties around nearby to help, keep Barabbas population down and remember five shillings appelt in those days at so I had to learn Branka Ravitz neck, so he spent some time there and live the life. I live the life. I didn't go back to work. Telegram back to Basra and I'm not coming back from going along Mario some work to see if I can do some Jackie rowing and that. Digital because the drinking really got to hold a man. I didn't like it that much. Went along the worked on the Property Finley. There's a real harsh life. I didn't like it. And I was willing to have a Bush life if maneuverings. On mauch, get to understand what is like working alone to marry, and that like mom did and I'd like to bag showing with A. Catching the night and the turtle aiding all that kind of stuff was a great experience. Were you able to bond with your mammal? She just too damaged. The she had been damaged by the house system, and it was impossible for us really to bond, so that's why I did leave. The raptor year I went back to Melbourne and always discovered by the new theatre. So this is where your life in acting begins being discovered by the new theatre. which I think was a leftist. With Accommodate Code Pink. Theater Theater you marxist-leninist in those days Jack. Up So once you once you had a taste of the spot as an actor onstage much. Did you like a check off? All of its every bit of. Even a makeup like wanting to recruit to play African Americans in Lorraine. Hands sprays a raisin in the sun. And Use later at Sydney Party and movie idea ended IRA's Mahan and I followed runny. No threat so you must have. You're absolutely loved I loved it. I team playing by bow and I couldn't tried simply. To have smoke in the back backstage and smug on is not be tearing up all the time I go on stage. And we did. A lot of political curriculum reviews musicals that and I thought well. This is where on need to be. This is just great, and that's where I found Jack Jack Vadnais. You fell in love with a man also named Jack onto that. Make you happy for a while, if did. For five years five years. You Save Melissa was doomed to file you. What you? What do you think it was doomed to file I? Never had anybody really love. My neighbor had any experience in loving anybody else decide to where? Away on Russia better style than not. So what to start taking drugs to the point of becoming addicted then? It was well after Jack had left and dim bill. All the actors were allowed to drink. And you sit there and you just drink. Be Throughout the day all. There's a partner Max Gillies Gatecrasher. I think I martineau bind had attached to the tower in him and that, but always in jail when I moved. To the Elliott. This is when your career is a cat burglar riddick. Advocate. Between these hour doing boobs, and that unites so it was this. With alcohol was that I was doing our bar surveyed and our drinking heavily after each show especially after the shower and Drink Laura ahead and I had a motorbike at the Tom. I don't know why should live anyway out to Imboula after the varsity young. Shed Common, join me and of father's reds lead just across the road next door to the the playstation in drumming straight, and he said my father's Ridge he's father was a doctor from Hawthorn football club beautiful line, and I bumped into him out. Doing the log on limbo is you could in ninety days and I bump into. To him and he he was very upset with my analytical. Understand why he was upset with me, but he realized I didn't know what the hell he was talking about, so he sat me down. He said Jack Do you remember that, not Outta. Bassetti at finished the last night we had a drink and monoplace. Yeah, I remember yours or member anything else. Check nine now gone or Jack Look. We were getting along fine about we had an argument. I've or something we shouldn't have an argument either. You went into my kitchen. Jack you went into Montgomery draw and you drew out a steak knife and it came into the land. Come up real close to me. And you bent that live. Right in front of Asia, and then you strike to that, and then you win Optima, Mulligan and you're not full ties Jack. You're jumped on your bike and you stack had still Omar Verandah. Gallon get. Your memory of A. So instantly, I gave up drinking for eight years after that because I instantly thought it could have been him on my out of stabbed. That's what I said to one of the Pram Factory. People go on US shooting up. Give me a shot of that. A foisted added why why did you do? Something other than drinkers. Drinking it was hiding was making bearable for me as a member, originalism, lona Ever to and all that kind of stuff and Have somebody that's o'clock comfortable in my skin in those days thanking me many years of discovery to be Comfortable Hill I am so taking heroin to them. What was? Euphoria you forget your Pyanj. You can put a you know. You'll angst your anxieties. Your fee is. Aside third leave them aside. They're always is still a NAPA near Lima. So I'd and your sprint and to apply Jimmy bag did around things even? More. So to finance this habit, you eventually started doing cat burglaries. Through wealthy suburbs and Mobile Q.. Either side of the era invariably when you're doing that, is it a frightening thing? Are you frightened? Allege a frightening thing when you actually go up the dried. That's when the frighteners turn on. In now what you're doing now on doing is wrong bygone. Armor job to rub have steal money. Normally I'd be happy. The cars were on locked the three or four two car garage where I'd loved and other sites with getting something out of the car. Sometimes I get thousands outta thousands fifty, six grand at a one car. And thirty six again the next month out of the site. This is really strived. Never reported to the police fifty six, I ended up today's crimes and the place guy back and say. What is your car broken into this amount of money stolen and here's this years later. Shows Black money. You in from another crook neck guys will necessarily another. Have, you reflect on those break-ins. Now are afflict differently now, but at the time. Obviously stolen child, our stolen and vice stealth into this time and I had taken money. and. Then give him some measure of payback. I worked at that way. As justifications for a minivan, crimes were easily justified at simply in simplistic terms with an indigenous people stole. My country stole my land stole from. My mom stole my life Mash on stealing back. These are the people over two rackets and Q. and Kooyong that are making the rules that are suppressing. My People's I I. Don't hot and every time I had successional night and I always in in those days discovering angry over sharing the world in the fridges and they in the garage of these large places there's always special freezes in fridges, and that for talk shelf May that United Silverside that an occupied and we deal with that or cider time. On near FM sisters, still you kind of violating this Saif I like safety in that, but then again I refrain of the violations of my kin I can foc- in the past that had been violated. Raped and murdered I never right and murdered anybody so it simple as that to me about the not you busted in a bungalow in Q. Torture. My mouth countered to fund bedroom. Next to the. House was empty. The house was empty and this cartoon in this drive, and his headlines caught me like muscular, and I heard the black. Yeah, Hey, get you. Got To. He had apparently jumped out of the car and come flying through the front door, and they had gone dock into the cabin and that. And you were interested. and. He grabbed himself a weapon. You should come out of. Their? Armed, NASA came out and he. Drop the Brolly so shocked? It's a little diminutive black fellow there in his bedroom. What are you doing? I'm rubbing unite Serena. What had taken nothing I'll just go. Start discounted abroad A. Puff out and she's finished of the rover back in the country to kitchen and yet Donnie love donny years. In Ama. Now. I want to see him. I usually comes in. She'd take one hundred main. She said you'll Jack Chops. Bashing the play she'd seen on stage. He saw me I'm recognized you as an actively tried to feel so small. How did it Oh God? Barest. She Jack Let's go into the kitchen. Have a competency and we'll talk about this and you are mortified, always modified. And what she site he when she gave you a petit, well, he he was the same like minded to heed. The play had a couple of fans. COUPLE TAE project. We let you go. We weren't talked to the place. We don't care what you do the rest of the neighborhood. We know them my hung around to see if they had true they. Always wanted them to come out to revisited to check on this. Do you remember us? We were the ones that the erupt and. We didn't. Have a chance to rub us because. We brush to delay CHICA. That's never occurred to me, but I always wanted they people would say bastardy. The DACA. Me Doing Right, we'll create clever man all these black comedy channel. Jimmy Beckmann. Living this really unusual life at this point acting all the time in theater productions with the factory, and with the black, did founded with Bob Mazza back in the day, or during this extraordinary things at same time, you kind of a functioning heroin addict, and doing kept burglaries to fund that as well and being homeless at times, and sleeping in Nice hotels and other times. It's a really strange kind of disjointed livestock told me the story. How during this period you came to be stocked Bolic's naked on the stage of the Sydney Opera House Jackie. How did that have that come? What a hoot we were doing! The cradle hickeys written by Michael Buddy for the theater company. And I pulled me up from Melbourne and Gopal fermenting, Raider and seventy, all types theater members, all of us X. Newsies of people and six go from redfern. I never knew them on Naveen ribs and. Now my fourteen but I was amazed. Somehow European would allow me to be playing a part of Bennelong. Cash Iowa and I. Find The girls coming up to my dressing room. shortly before we do before Melissa checked. We've just to being told that we're not going to be paid the performance money and that we have to remind on the rehearsal money. Should that sounds unfair. wounded. Yeah please Mr Child. Can you do that I was Kuro? We'll. Crush. Shall I go up to? The end and Robin What Nine You know alliance age girls not being paid. By. alday casual yet wrong casual. Even you had me for two plays and go pills. Kashmir, only one play, and I reckon it's right. Our evy drinking and getting into drugs to and I said what is I can't really do the show because this is not my country, so you have to pay dives, girls, law I'll pick me doggone bag and go back to Melbourne not allowed to be in the country if you're not. And so they waited for the Atlanta and already pick the dog in the bag, and I was so pissed off when George came. Rolling You Pay. Them deck that? I'm GONNA play been along naked, but here's Jack Plays. Reconsider. The Opera House Management and Management Trouser dissuade me out alive. Down there for the first what Malek Jan Gallipoli Overall I. Do and be able to outlive on the side of the stage and little. Let up. Nike. Strange conversation to be had on the side of the stage. Should you'll now man actually what? What a million on no man? And the stage manager go ahead not little feller. On. Look Gallon. Do your thing and then when you come back. I'll tell you what I suspect this happening I. said so guys get shaved washed in Taba stage and come. A. What should I believe? He's wearing that at a respect for you jack. What are your main at a recipe for me well as plainly obvious Jack? You're you're you're not. You're not being initiated. This. As we're having. Very, strange conversation. One of the best publicized. With the manager. So did you walk on naked in the end? You got a standing ovation. was. Revenge for. Bloody minded about women per. Se. Of the stage licking their lips. Nagy. Girls? They're only human. But she is an impression in the theater became an instant. revel here in, Sydney. Voice head. Problems because of that. Way My husband my sleeve. It was just wrong for them to have done that. A modest slided governor by doing that. We did the play, and it was done and dusted with eventually, it took a long ball few to kick to. Steal, something when you. Were persuaded you to kick it. Mara Molly Program delivered by out. The ryen pages daughter in my last jail sentence. You want to kick it. What made you want to go to them the discussing? If, anybody delivered a program and the dialogue naturally Goto it if ever. And it tweet with my, they gave us information about the potential of is yet to be discovered about heritage wide has been denied us, and we were so pissed off with what we had been denied us I personally felt the need to read it the learning embers of my growing. Drugged up, mocked up trainings totally. Had this notion of coming out to my community. FITZROY's federal for KC man law man I, made it to be seen as leading black light in my own community offers beginning, discover who I ought to be what I'll become, so you wanted to aspire to the dignity of that Yes yes. And I came out. It took me two years to jump off the Methadone two years to finish off the dock two years to learn through the elder skills calls run through cameras guarantee various destination, seeing other men from all over the continent women in. CONFERENCE SANTA But may getting to understand the roots of problems of elders and Ben, drying to ash by to be elders in their own communities, all meeting on the ground, when I realized I had this unique voice, this unique memory, and is unique drive to become sincerely a truly an eldest type person in my mind, right where you are acknowledged as statesman, you have been awarded as Victorian senior Australian of the year and you are called. Uncle Jack. Acknowledged as an as such, you very much want to be one of those eldest that goes into prisons, and to be the kind of person united when you're young and in prison. Is that possible for you? What do you want them to know that it's it's? It's never impossible to reach my level. Come with me. More than you are at the moment, and that's what I tie into prisons, trying to impress those that are struggling with their lives, looking for direction, not for support, and that I could be that person. Allow me to put you on a ride, ride, gardens and directions. You say you know who you are these days. Who Are you? Project Charles totally again black. Now beyond reproach, BG did not true, blue. True Black Ivory Guy in that which has been denied me. All the more powerful and empowered because I know that my roots firmly stuck in Melbourne and all across New South Wales. Well I believe you're a black villa. It onto and I really enjoyed this conversation. I think you're extraordinary. Thank you so much Jack Thank you. That was my conversation with Jack Childs. From last year checks book is called born again, black villa. On Richard Fidler. Thanks for listening. You've been listening to a podcast of conversations with Richard Fidler. For more conversations interviews, please go to the website. ABC Say dot net dot edu slash conversations. Discover, more great ABC podcasts live radio and explosives on ABC listen up.

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"Signal g they'll still in Troy Perry flory are- person's role now this one goes. Hey yes yeah this goes here. UPDATES tate's trades again now. It's not not like beat up crying out for years. Okay I know yeah we finally got to Disney plus gene okay okay. Let's Sir. Let's take it from. Dr something exciting something authentic and true and everything changes now. What's next the future. That's specialty. Do you trust me his the force be with US wonderful dream. Come true something very rare you have met aw on it's not for our region until twenty twenty yes our radio three podcast bringing news in review of cadets all all welcome to Radio Free Endo the number one stalls podcasts in Yorkshire and Yorkshire as we know it is on the forest moon of Endo and it's great to be back after the great. PC wipeouts of twenty nineteen but it's all running now and I'm more pumped to bring you brand new content inch month now in just over a month we will have Halloween so unequal go stories for our campfire and if you have any idea as fraud Halloween intro them too so send everything to me. Jamie Burns ends at Radio Free Endo. ACHIE- mail DOT COM my name is Spencer. Wadi might know me from a liberal small film called Rogue One. I played door fater. I'm listening to radio. Free and no doubt hey guys have you listened to the volume. Man Goes to the dark side blue. We just had the twenty three and I it was going on and I had a great chance with fence attracts more new boat and at the time recording we had not seen the new trailer for episode nine bullets. We had seen the trailer for the Manda Laurean so let's get over to the station's lounge for our chats Kamar Newbold. Everyone does go home installs one one guy after the tattoo when it's my favorite guy of all its model new boat offense drag. Saito mark on heavy. I'm doing great and it's great to be back on after a period of absence of course with now go home. Hajr is backing swift and we're ready to rock and roll especially with all the stuff is coming after de Twenty three. It's it's been quite the weekend are I mean not only for stores funds but for Marvel finds a decent yeah as a heck of a weekend. It really has now been proper obsolete. Pablo downs just before moving to Ltd twenty-three. There's some of the base that I wanted to discuss. We because you have the guide. Sir Dodd headlights southbound right the this stuff about Disney cooking the books. Did you hear about that. I saw a hotline I didn't I didn't get a monster. A busy is fantastic. I didn't get tested into in any great detail but I did say something about it. What what was the what was the side of the story. When we saw Ned deadline. I am basically the bring in the red for ages I was going to say it's not been a Real Madrid on my always lock hundred million in these these monster companies so of live off the credit doesn't the in the last couple of years ago they have proper expanded avenue with so many different franchises that they've grabbed especially with Fox the grab and there was this talk that they were thinking about grabbing sonal boom. I don't think he even if they did decide to buy into Sony. You know take the American version of off commes or another the one lamb senator because they would be appropriate monopoly won't they would I mean it would obviously obviously what you reference to. Is this the houseboat among tobacco which is kind of heartbreaking given a great sort of only three years. We've had spoil DMC you. It would be awesome but you did neither blimey that on bond as well you know that that own everything and I don't know I think it's it's way these it's like when Lucasfilm became part of Disney. You know regain load content now. If if content is all that matters you're happy Bonnie for for me as a star wars fan and loves to talk about obviously with all this stuff out for me. It was never about the amounts of content absorbs about the quality of it so star wars. He supposed to feel like a special events. myabe concern the my stuff coming out is that it's it isn't a special events anymore. It can't be because it's out every week or there's a film up every yea so it has completely changed it about being said pretty much everything this come out so far has been. There's been no offers. It'd be stuff. That's better than others but no but marvel good grief remain how many live action shows eight nine yeah amount of our time looking at what Bowe Miss Marianas Donald Hall well. If the quality the quality is good as film and Thou bring onto the mandatory and then I'm I'm all for it. I'm move forward a grade. My biggest problem is with the Disney close. We'll we'll get. We'll Disney plus. Now is they. It's AH think it was on your actual cy. They announced the tab the UK starting date for Disney as twenty twenty where Ya yeah everything he's now marketed as like with the mental. Laurean is streaming from November the twelfth. So what does that pose questions agents for everybody WHO's not getting Disney's streaming the could do some serious pirates non they rarely we are pirates windows even know what that mean and yeah. I mean there's no dodging around it. There's no getting around it. There's no way I'm not going to see them unto Laurean as soon as I can. Possibly say it examined and anybody who's listening to this would call me a lawyer for said any different so if we've got a way of watching it or having a view of it. I'm not going to not do it. You know I'm not going to travel to the sites every week just to watch on television in the states or the Holland because Holland site. There's a few European countries. Get it at the same time because different regulates rules and still fina goes on to mention the word but brexit if we if brexit goes listen no deal brexit then the outcome roles will change so that could be it could be different things happening there but you've still got to launch the darn thing so. I think shareholders may in and earlier in the year. I said first quarter for I think I think I'm pretty sure from every night I mentioned the ACI specifically but certainly western Europe so the countries the having already got it. We'll get it so or will be able to get it. That's why the buses to get you. Roy Absolutely series November this wealthy you. I mean pretty pretty soon. We get roses. Go walk on the nineteenth of December in America gets on the twentieth. If the shoe's on the other foot don't go on to die because they'll flip twitter because I it's not leaving consideration skipping on twitter especially on on the twelfth of November absolutely and Lucasfilm quite rightly understandably understandably. It's their major markets. Lucasfilm's star was Dot Com all pitch to North America. Everywhere else is is is a second thought everything is dice dight voice voice spoiler. Everything is timed for the states yeah. It's not a global brand eight hundred. North American brand happens to transfer war broaden loath America that makes any sense this no you know nothing will be taught for the UK ahead of the state. Put it that way so for us who wants to see see it. Don't want to have it completely. You know things with infinity war or guy and guys will more of a better exemplifying. What is the endgame. It's been out for a week. I it's a whole Lewinsky sport coffee. Now I think most people who are desperate and Kane is crazy and just go to see it within the first week hookah crooked. It's not important here the you don't want people talking about it on twitter. You'll make sure you get your back so to the cinema to watch it within the first week back after that. I think is fair game. with the mandatory and you know you know. I don't know what some eight o'clock on Wednesday. Whatever died the twelfth November's you know as soon soon he's finished episodes finished twitter will literally meltdown at the end of the episode because everything will be talks about so ferocious haven the ACI or anywhere else Disney plus? You better put you up with somebody. That's access to be left out. I come sation yeah logically at Ao to UH until the next episode comes on you're going to be picking up bits and then he say it and then we'll talk about it you know I think that's the only way and it's just a sad fact I think buoyed by twenty twenty when when all access to Disney world choking down seven dollars in the state so no that will pay pounds because they'll just do pound for dollar. I'm happy to haven't quite old ten quit or whatever petitioning the stuff that's going. I was I was like we I my money would be there. I was thinking Gina won't yeah. I'm I'M GONNA sing some cash into this because just for the simple fact of the pure content that they've got all the films rambled star wars films all the episodes or the claim. I'm was everything that was on. Netflix is all going to be onto Disney plus and of course you've got the Manda laureate you know hey and well we'll we'll get onto the mandate lorrimore apple because the trailer dropped the twenty-three which we awful to will do. It's not the actual trailers that was shown at at star how will celebrations because if you look around you can't see some dodgy footsie Jovan and even some dialogue from as well boot and how what a trail and I can't believe the quality of the trailer it was poker movie quality train specially with the ships you know when you saw the sheets of aggressive of the sun juice yet will it ah me juicery great it looks it does ago site those it does look studying breath of thinking. I'll ask you put a tweet out early today. On the site. We rely cyber before I went over to do stuff on Israel and Brandenburg things like cyber was the interviews we used today so so the two thousand five to two thousand and eight two thousand nine it was pretty much one every week or or if you can unlike side on Sunday night and now I'm putting them onto fancy strikes on a Sunday as well and right now doing the two thousand seven posts which would pretty much me the Tasmanian seven and one of the questions I would ask people in every interview was what are you looking for in the live action TV series because if you remember about about then it was all about Jordan Rick mccollum doing a live action stalwart show shop laser before thirteen thirteen thousand twelve and all that sorta stuff also suv made me to thousands but he I think he came on stage and said he the celebration three I think from memory and it's kind of funny now like what twelve he's lighter the we'll weeks away from a live action. Star Wars series launching in the fill occurred. which is my mighty rates out? I'm glad I mean. I wish I had done it back. Then obviously a story was amazing. It costs why is it was prohibitively rhythmical sign it. was you know it would have been crazy so a twenty million in dollars so which are honestly what they spending on mode of the Rings TV series spending tournament in percent but you didn't Namaskar the Netflix streaming and it was a completely different landscape explosive goals but now that can imagine what the spending on an episode Okinawan Imagine. He's gotTa GonNa be. It's GonNa be a thrones numbers. He's going to be ten billion plus. Go to be police. It's it's obviously a sustainable figure and to your point if they didn't live action TV then it wouldn't Florenz at the safe but you look at Lloyd actions. Show of the Lord and fly over that Aski- that's right out of the Phil. That's film say it is our is pretty. Well Jeez Film. It's all I'm working on it with the houses but predominantly mm yeah you roy just look delicious. It really did and it's like you get really your first shots of. IGA TA indeed more in that little section that he did in strikes back out of oh well. I'm sold again time to get that action figure out. Totally I totally. It's it's only eleven. Isn't it hearing see that in the original mandatory in China when he just spins around crazy just seems spinning like a top and then initially it actually see a sort of toy wrangler shooting two different carrots way turns these essential tool yeah just everything about I mean this other shows that are equally excited about the mental Lauren's Roy on our doorstep on really Jonesing for that and it's is that the world thing and my favorite described when he was on stage or saying well you know pay off the you know the employees fallen the celebrations ended and lawlessness reigns because there isn't a central government but of course logically you'd you fall back to planetary system governments as opposed to sectors and reagents agency so all these different options and the whole landscape of society has changed and these gunslingers knocking around just scoop it all often working with whoever and because there's a there's a beautiful augie eleven and the mandatory in whatever Montoya's carriages nine as we have not yet so understood together and straight away looking at is got voided as-yet straight off these obvious. It's still gives the birds just because he's harkening back to live in my opinion. The greatest movie ever made you know it's just bat swats lawyer for the moments just cut white explore the galaxy with Tara's yeah and it seemed to me they were. It violence in it seemed to be especially with the bit with away shoot. We shoot this. God falls into one of those those clothes shoots the pilot and you see and even my wife went off an Alpha Woo. We have become so that years ago. Bernice men though talking about what I think what became known as Stolz dwelled and lots of different people working on that and from understanding back in the day was the costumes remind the scripts is off fifty scripts on the shelf slot Reuters written scripts and it was all done and George Bastl. Why if I can only imagine it was a financial decision. That's my only the only reason I can think think bullets mccollum described that projects as you know like the Sopranos Deadwood. It's not those kids and that's why they were talking about doing authentic squishy kids TV show that we're talking about and it was more than one show those look a a kid show attain shown and I don't show in an underworld the adult shell and this feels like it's it's pitchy that because somebody said to me earlier today as well yeah you see that shot when the door slices on in-in-in and you see say that senior road one way where gene has to go through that hatch hatch it looks Gareth in Luke and empire the same sort of citadel you know has to get through and this is again. It's a similar look Pinson door. I can only imagine his chops to got four thing is not an island but just chops him in our yea. Call whites it off the bouncy that show that close you show where you saw all the carbonite all benign will the slabs of carbonate all the people of all yeah great. I actually I think I can remember. I've seen now on online so many when I wonder if you're going to see Georgia during one of them I mean is. It looks absolutely fantastic it. Does it really does all the stone sheep is you see in it or their armor eventually like the UK garrison or wherever they filmed it so each one of those costume guys they've got screen accurate costumes now yeah yeah. I think it was because in California so it would be the I'm not sure which garrison it would basically perfectly honest one of the California troops or multiple ones but yeah just the thought that I mean like you say you mentioned the UK G G Goes From Force Awakens but he wasn't there armor. It was obviously are made for the film at these guys. Philan- talk we need some stormtroopers for these sacred seaside on who to call the best Canetti going all of style was probably so he just calls up a local garrison and found Mike Cohen and you say we'll go screen us now yeah no. It's brilliant again to do that. It'll put all their all their Castro's when they retire Rydell further further refussal show also you you put of am. DETRO- this on your side puts the at twenty three you can see all the all uh-huh the different all the mandatory different arms role on them on and show as well and if you've actually been to d twenty three South Mall now. It's it's on. It's on the bucket list along with the shows but we've actually got one of our guys is at the moment Martin Kayla's there so he's he's enjoying the show. He still still going exists. somebody as we speak so it's still still ongoing. He said it was still ongoing yeah but he said he said he's he's fantastic saw him and would so really recommend talk to anybody who wants to do it again so but not of not of not doing. I think you have to be twenty three member which I'm not so that was my next question. Actually how was it it was a invite only deal you have to log onto rancho everyone to be member of Rancho to go to any of the of the tours the I think Daytona. Threes assignment needs to be twenty three member and he's not chafe. I think it's quite quite expensive to be a member of this. It's about a hundred books probably more but Martin's runoff saying the stuff that I send you is. He's very noisy. He's worth it so I think just opportunity to get tickets so yeah. It's solicits biannual surged on next year is on the air after South now certainly from the excitement I mean not just following on social media an online the reveals of happens and then again a boost from how much he's enjoying his with minerva great so yes Stephania. Can you show a lot today yeah same. Hey I would like to Israel question for you. Which I was asking. I didn't answer what's the twenty-three mean indeed twenty-three Skopje Disney isn't it but what's the twenty-three thank you see you. This steamboat really came out from from memory. I think you see the first time I could be wrong pretty sure that's it that would make sense insist that would make sense now on the other things that would say that were being shown off indeed twenty-three with the hotel the Star Wars Hotel. Oh He's not speaking of your ball to learn more about. Perhaps the most mercer so literally the maybe some of you visited the show warm a model. Polish eighty one spirits my mother for his project and we'll give you details on Galactic Star cruiser. We're full of mercy on your travelers in that galaxy are are are your vessel is a healthy a plan were starlight cruise to the galaxy for today's tonight's while thuddingly hero your very own star wars adventure not to tell us more about this unique experience. Please welcome executive producer uh-huh Record Walt Disney imagine and Moral Jon Ward Walt Disney world. We check in the terminal for departure you and you're invited into watch that blasts into space and through the window of those stars who she is these you start getting closer and closer and he neck and then star wars doors open with emerge urge incident here you sense the next two days and two nights living onward the station everything from an alien crew the fact that every window has view out into space. He's the one in your well-appointed Kevin. We hope you'll enjoy the ever changing this as the ship rose's place I share adventures with soon for student characters some of the really mean for the very first time may already because Mrs Star Wars you might that not all is going to go according to plan hello and we must caution you never know who your name alter on your adventure and weary of Humaidan Jensen's because the choices you've nate in course of your journey and ultimately determines how four star one more story unfolds as we mentioned this summer's experience includes activities on dining experiences and most importantly is an opportunity to leave your molten day story as unfold and Israel crew other passengers and those star wars characters and in all connects to your a slant excursion reported to bless fire outpost onto some grilling activities on award ship one of the activities that excited about it for the first time both kids and robots Rolex watch baseball against free while wielding of the we saw was he was lost learning to use the force reaching within as discovery meeting nascent connection with the force that you may ask we'll also be invited to visit some working worship of the bridge here you'll get saloon shifts like now and defense us to try their hand operating and how soon -ticipant hey go on this defense skills that you just learned on handiwork discovers in Canada secret allegiance numbers make movies. Were you name just behold upon McConnell hero excited to invite you aboard the house she's in a class of her own legendary ship on Harold Loeb Service and although she's had an interesting future is going to be even more exciting. We're looking forward to beginning but for now they deal with. You really impressed with that muddled. They showed off. I was not yet a bit. You is GonNa come out and like Oh. I and I looked out with the half. The foul could a scale and at notice on some of the comments in on facebook that people saying are they actually going to build this spaceship in a park somewhere. You know what I mean. I was thinking well that would look Matt if they did that. Oh I can't really see them doing that. I think it's going to be a bunk started square building but it's going to have the fact that y'all going from Earth into the ships somehow the proxy so in similar to what they used to Vegas for the Star Trek experienced. Did they do all similar. They did a funny side alcohol win their or used to go there court regularly and whenever whenever always over that solid of the world and Beta betray found as well that that whole star trek experiences amazing was that a good chunk of the lower floor of the Hilton but there was talk of one point of actually building full size enterprise in vegas build so it would it would look like it was under construction so naturally the scaffolding would be holding up the sales and all the other stuff but and it was huge was the size of an aircraft carrier and it was the enterprise wasn't it yeah yeah and there was seriously considering it so we this is. I think the raw fed some pretty sure with posted on there are blueprints of what the hotel look and hotels not big. It's two floors thirty two rooms of floor but I think the rooms are quite sizeable. I should be I think tonight. The the pricing was announced. I'm not saying I'm not saying the article is a list of ads the site address the over to your priority something it. I mean it's got I think it works out thousand dollars per day yeah but you can but it's a minimum of two nights three days and two nights two nights three we days they will start at three thousand three hundred pounds for a single person for each standard size seems to be able to fit five people passages and and that and that be round at one thousand four hundred and forty four purpose for full state and and I'm like I don't think thing I'm going to be up at like Ethel with the world so much why I think I think think because you know stoves. Now is a brand goes from any always has really goes from absolute top line crazy expensive. Steve Store right down to the penny tops and I suppose also there's enough people with the cash I spending out in their pocket. That hotel will probably never if you could try and book. A room in tomorrow is probably a two year right in this. I would imagine I'll probably always be a TV waiting list because so few rooms you know then have imagined all the both in both sites and both sides Hyman Orlando Disneyland Paris building style was like a mini galaxy's edge so I would imagine they would daft capacity if I want you to do something. Disney has the largest I can descend on Paris now certainly going across Hong Kong and Shanghai in the ones over that Paul. Will you know they'll have them expect shut his Shang Hong Kong to actually build the ship skyscraper 'cause they have gall about on top of one of their scrapers. Yes that's very true. You know I it would be amazing if they did. They did it actually bill. That would be something really special. God Kitchen Ebony three. I say you know mark is that you know like yourself. We've been in fact. We are the ones we are. The ones that the keeping star was alive. We have a beatings from the bullies for like in Star Wars and now this happens and and I have to win the lottery to do some really so much I for one will be entering. Every single competition ever comes up for anything for place. Now may not come back from the war because Chris by you know me. Stay in the hotel yet allow yes. Oh my God that ship jobs looks beautiful. It's so it's so well designed and especially on the video footage of go where the guy like this light that goes over it so looks like it's trump got over it for ooh. ooh ooh. I want that. I want you know Lego going to bring that out. If it's not announced sometime this week and I made the leg organized a model the the missing a trick because people nuts. It's your right you think Lega will do you think tell hot Wales Fantasy Games James will do it for for the various different types of ships have got that yeah absolutely that back vehicle will be completely of work into Canada. Loyd if we're with galaxies edge though that work in Netflix now talking about galaxies edge because my my son's actually over there as we record in this my son is actually over in the Florida Paulk at this moment and I think on the on his last day there is the opening opening of galaxies edge and he's he's been sending me photos of all the merchandise for Ram. I saw the light year warn you know the the opening merchandise which I've already spent a hundred dollars of his money right now bobby by me. Give me that is that man. If God speed owes we've got says edge Alabama's well not I mean even if they're in small album book. Some of the stuff is quite expensive and he's already said that there's a book in for the restaurants and concede Conga. He can't get on simple. Zeitz skull gathered so that that is or fully bookstore but he can't wait to get an and they've also told him because he posted awesome questions to some of the to the people were there and he says how long we've gotten they said four hours now we heard this at the Papa while the prophesy to the moment this four hours but then he said well how long the estimated keyword the Falcon. They went four hours so he's like straight bag play. Get on a straight adding but yeah so VLADA can you. Let's go be some serious Brinton for the the countdown and then somebody comes in drugs. You're out. You're bidding for two minutes gay. Dan You know to be Fair Waco in next year as well. Mike I've told you before so all the books should be I doubt and that the override should be open by now. That's rise to the resistance. I couldn't spell what is not open loop again. Isn't it just finished well. I think from what I understand they were working on it and I had a tricky time with it because it Lee so such a company slide three rides in one. It's such a complicated system so think initially it was because they they literally couldn't get it to work. Not Not couldn't get it to work couldn't get it to work correctly every time if that makes sense yeah also thing why Russia you know. They're going to get it right OUGHTA. Make sure it's it's impressive from the off They've invested so much money into it. It's just ridiculous we asked by and also we know anybody. That's been there the first time you know as soon as I know Roy Systems these coming out. They're going to want to go again so yeah. It's quite it's quite smart yeah and that is it for two. That's for sure but to L. I hear a lot because this been if you only have to cast your eyes over Youtube. There's no end to people in videos videos or saying. That galaxy edge is empty. Nobody's going through it. I happily them I company surely eights it stall walls else for God's sake and I may people are GonNa Flock Cer-. If you build it they will come. That's what I've always believed in. A star was about but a lot of people do and while say on these videos that it's simple lack of original trilogy characters now then this of a story broke out they said the reason why Disney solve wanted to go away from the original trilogy is because they have to rent some of George Lucas. Did you hear about is that it's right that he ah I heard don't believe it for a second. I think when Lucas sold at a sold it as was he had a lot of clauses in certain things that he wanted wanted and I think most of that was in relation to safeguarding people's jobs at Lucasville yeah I think he sold. I mean what people don't seem to pickup on his that he got paid four point zero two billion Lucasville. We put that money into and it was paying. It's worth. I just just really payload all the other stuff. They got for that money put into his educational fund but he I think he also got similar amount in Disney stocks. He's one of the biggest shareholders how old is of DC. He's worth more money now than he wants me so stalls and what's he don't Star Wars. If that makes any sense you it's obviously put all the money into the Lucasville museum just made the money but he's I think he was the highest entertainment last year of anybody especially now. He's like the Independent Guy and now he's the he's the he's the culprit guy now in a sense yeah because I think I think that if you do us but I think he can we can have view of pretty much everything Disney's doing because I don't know specific position but but my understanding from what other people tell me is that he's kind of on the board and as a shareholder he's one of the one of the the higher ups in terms of being shareholders but you know the guys what seventy five always pretty much retaliated Yank. Can we about to do anything you know another. We're going to get onto the the subjects of the announcements that were made a decently great but you know there's one in particular that wouldn't surprise me if they talked him out of out of retirement to direct zip code but I can't you know probably won't even do that so yeah. I think he's quite happy. Yeah seems you commit to it. Let's bring it out. This warmed yeah well. Let me just say that. I Bet you east going to buy tickets for the stalls hotel. That's show he can afford it yep you. You brought it up yet. The Disney Asleep I think was the highlight after all the ts in and all they oh they asked me I will you know seems to be that. They have asked him a long time Tom Ago and he was on board old year. McGregor is coming back as OBI Wan Kanobi have one more than after saints appearance and and up to talk about. I am thrilled to a beloved member of the Star Wars understand. Ah The can you ask the in front of all of these people auditees wettest please. He's asked me mind going to play again and going to play Obi Wan Kanobi. Yes the Sir. Only I'd be happy but I could see us. We are really close. We have all strips written. We are ready Sir shooting next year we could not be more excited so really awesome news. I mean we can talk about it for quite a while. Actually going mate was sort of eastern last year where we found MM-HMM WE brought up evidence from companies houses some crazy that that actually incorporates the company that might fail so we announced that on the site and then of course soda auto came out and didn't do the business I wanted to put a pool is on that and then we'll go through the room we had was that it was going to become a TV show and we posted on the site that not only do we understand that you signed up to star in the shadow directs episodes of the show because he wrote quote. Riley is a movie star so we wanted these movie star money and I I couldn't justify that for two series of of the talk today's but at the sweeten the deal let's put it that way he could directly wants to get to do more directed chew tiles back in the nineties but I don't think he's zone huge amount since then so I think that was probably quite enticing and then we also heard rumors of you know oh he will have a solid cake mechanical sidekick so it'd be interesting to see how that old pans out but yeah just to see him get bay minis and his face off you know was That's GONNA ask. GonNa be fun basically how we sent to Kathleen Kennedy. I want you to ask me. Oh Yeah. It's asked me now unloaded absolutely now do not this. One thing have to save this. I was lucky I was gutted that they weren't going forward with a KANOBI. Phil Yeah bought after seeing the footage of Amanda Laurean. I'm thinking thank God because if they gonNA turn around the quality of the mandatory into a Kanobi series. You could have ten hours plus to explain a story that you would get a more an hour enough. Maybe maybe to know what I mean so imagine you know Kanobi for ten hours I I'm. I'm not sure how many episodes the said he'll be but said say ted this huge demand for America the ten hours of Quality obi-wan-kenobi. Wa Aw Ma yet bringing a one. I WanNa actually that's a good point. I mean I mean I'm talking when a handsome Diego Luna so the said eight ten hours of the Kassian show and we ate Ice House Kanobi hours ten hours whatever is Roy. I mean I suppose if you think about it now. All Your Door Solo. I wouldn't swap solo for anything but we had two hours and ten minutes of Saola and they didn't do as well at the box offices. They wanted so if you don't well developed trilogy we might have had six six hundred house of Saudi. Let's say in total of ALS thousand over five years. You're quite right. We're GONNA get eight hours of because Disney. Plus it really belong to babysit saints will be at Ala hours of urine back as OBI Wan Kanobi how many as four movies yeah last season what but I think I don't think that's another thought no they're already working on season two men delorean and I don't know if they'll do more than one season of Obi Wan but if it goes well and it is logical story in the sets seventy I is after revenge nineteen these between a new hope so it is loads of time to fail comfortably another decade of time to fill is absolutely no reason why they couldn't tell more stories of Ben on Saturday and elsewhere because presumably he's not just wondering around the in the Desert Yeah Yeah. I'm the ease of Clenwar I seventy three is say yes true yeah now. I've got a pitch for this OBI Wan Kanobi. Yes story. Would you like to hear it gopher. Imagine this Guy Right the easy. He's he's now living as a hermit but he's quite young looking yeah then something happens. He finds a simple Djeddai stargate similar to what was in rebels apple's. He passes through it thinking he could save queen gone. Jen Fortunately trapped in the past and the s live is life up to the point way sees himself back in the past but by then he's about sixty one. I mean in all the stuff from the clone wars you know so. There's is all that stuff they would. She's crying because it makes the live-action in the you know and all that sort of stuff. I'm I'm really curious to see how they play but to be honest I don't. I don't want to cash when you're in that role again. I want to say what he looks like and just everything about it. I just you know I wanNA essay. How closely they sort of go towards the you know the age of this come out over the you know I wanna see where I where I take really curious. I take it you're probably ready. Do you know the Kanobi Book that came out a couple years ago now on the the offer Senate out everywhere now since this is news I I read that book proper enjoyed that book athlon was great so key matching if they're doing this spaghetti west well. That's similar the Dome of the Mandate Lorain Avenue. They don't Uh Spaghetti Western kind of thing and that would work in with Kenobi are black. You say he doesn't have to stay on contacts between dizzy. He doesn't have to technically be that yeah. He's keeping an eye on it but it doesn't have to be there this plenty of time for that because he knows he's pretty safe. Life like you say you'd have to have your Grega bucket is I'd be won't Kanobi. It's a fun stream and plus eight validates the prequels genital mean for me invalid because I enjoyed him Gina. I enjoyed the prequels more than I am actually enjoying the Disney tackles because so far that doesn't seem to be any continuity that just took in store for the wall and flags or maybe a dozen off forget about that but nobody worried about that last well this that sort of thing where we especially we under the George Lucas he'd had a beginning a middle wrench. I I it at the end really retired the jet. I was the end you could say but side so to have you know for Disney to go in and say you know Kosovan by. Let's bring in your McGregor that from a Daphne validates the prequels that they were something to for people to appreciate and they should do a lot of people joke about judge but as you know the end of the day he's a character and I enjoyed it. I enjoyed enjoyed law. The maybe maybe some bits and bobs in dialup great helmsman grateful opposition to the soundtrack of the Phantom menace actually this week you know we just gave me food especially with this news juice myself back up. Three PAT is argue with al.. I'll play the fund some Sandra. It's all think it's absolutely brilliant but yeah. I think all those people that Lucasfilm we're going to ignore and Disney especially Disney. We're going to ignore the free calls so now so not now say Kanobi its nearest the prequel trilogy than is to the to the in terms of time you know. Do you consider well see I was coming back as well. That's next year aspects. Es February so you know you have a lot of these ot sorry prequel trilogy the era stuff going on and Lucas at sorry well Yeah Lucas. I'm thinking Disney world the Lucas where we miss lucile know this day might be down or we're still getting their heads around it. The era the age of kids who are ten when the fundamental came out a now thirty you know and and and their parents call of them and you know getting towards that disposable income age when you know what I mean when when things start to loosen off a little bit and and he's found Andy fate with all the stuff that you can apply if you thought we all have to you know and that's an area that they can really sort of make some high if they clever about it whilst making their own stumping their own authority on the current era with Ryan faded power and all those carrots. I just think we star wars. Original trilogy is always. He's GonNa be the most fertile area I think in a sense it's because some which grew organically these kind of rushed everything in the rush to every year once once. Lucasville never had to do that tonight. When stalwarts emperor jet out that's all you're thinking about when the clone wars was happening in the Prequel Chiller J. that was really all uber focusing on we're really focusing on the original trilogy just focusing on the Prequel Shula J. Disney of come along and they're throwing stuff out for every era and as a consequence I can die economy economy well? That feels like I would say feels prequels. NFL different now by don't none of them feel different anymore. Does that make sense doing doing everything at the same time so that's not to knock it. I get why they do it. You know it's a cache county. It'd be silly not to milk it but you know the reason. The reason element of Lucasfilm Lucasfilm has the easier in the sense in the sense that they were never rushing for the next release. I know as soon as the three years to do what we do and you. You know there's there's no nearly the amount of merchandise. Ben Is is now but you know it's just a different game. No no worse different. You know why are talking. I was just looking at the the stall was time nine that was brought up especially when you sold the KANOBI STORY FLASH UP AT DETROIT's every now it just kind of weighed because somebody tweets. I come tweets it. It made me made me laugh now. If you you look at it the the stock so much in before returning Djeddai. There's all these lines here here or the Casino one via the rebels astor knows hey eric ones my lawrence here right and then there's a big massive gap from retaliated. Djeddai so the force wakened and somebody tweeted a close up of that and I say this is the Paul Way Galaxy where this galaxy was just bored because capital side and just well you know when I look I think this like thirty as their they've nothing ink on what adults at Disney instead walking loads in between and the the episode want to return Janai yet with think well say well. Let's stop concentrates in have yet. Well sorry after well. Yeah sorry we told you I've just seen it retender jed eye and then the mental Orient Book Mental Laurien is very very close to return the isn't it but then you know fake stake at four. That's why you've got. You've got what thirty thirty thirty two years between Jeddah in force awakens which is lot. Franson was thirty years before they'd have the thing is Swat. I pick that toilet Malory's about five years after four weeks after Jeddah resistance just before force awakens. You're you're absolutely right. I think it's like when you look at the galaxy out and you always had the galaxy was never a full circle galaxy because you always had if you carson it's it's not central to the galaxy. It's kind of more to the left of the math and then you had the unknown regions and now filling out. You'll learn a lot too. He's beyond the western regions and Western rates. He's rather in the you know where a lot of these worlds are illuminated was talking about all these things but there's that part of the McAfee Springfield Latin now. She's always he really cool and I almost think long yourself. I wish they'd do that with the stories. He's not yet you've got. I mean he's another thought and pulled Dina for. Yes really perceptible. I think he's right with films now. We have gentleman coming out with will smith rose. Young Young Will Smith I. He's all Bill Smith looks just actually it looks fantastic looks and ten years ago. You had looper come out. Where is your Bruce Willis versus all bruce release but I couldn't do the effects of the real risk released so it was Gordon. Joseph Levy played young Bruce Willis whereas now you know the the Ice Bruce Release and do what they do with Jim and I think the technology now is growing so fast that doing the immoral films with somebody will Jackson did in the starship picard trial data. You know so now good old prince point can come back now. Instead of spending three hours Michael Pecan dots on his face and the end result is quite literally the exactly the same. I that's going to be great for him. I mean hey look I was good accountant to trek both Nazis. You brought it up. He's we'll they did with data there because I was thinking I it looks like he's been stung by a bill something especially how he you know you see him in in the in the chest and then and then you see him talkin now thinking. Is this a dream. I did not think that they. Da sched him yeah but that makes sense now is are you saying that the D. H. Tim now at was that over thing with the Casino Bendel an announcement as well now. I enjoyed them to I. I must uh I'm looking forward to that show as well but I'm you know about you mark. I know they di- Toronto Matt my all month but the the dead now now I mean how can the guy because he's now stance look older than he did when he died. That thing comes to mind. It's funny. You mentioned him looking all all too because I mean I mean forty. Don't look forward but they said you know he's. It'll be a four year old. I think I've seen that point as a character about twenty three it's like listen. I'm am fifty. Jones was thirty thirty thirty one when she was playing gin gyms lest I we know insane but then you mentioned these characters of had really hard lives. You can call him to forgive them that little they have been there. They've aged because of the stress and the hard line but one thing that did come up in the conversation with between Diego lunar and onto stage titus he said well. They're going to basically said they're going to do a little bit of the Dia Djing Tech so I think they all going to do a little bit of jiggery-pokery to make them look a little bit. Younger in poker will too don't need which jiggery-pokery but so he gets away with it but I think I'm really when I look at one point about knowing that it added so many people say that those are always dead now was watching last night the police station you know the bomb really really so. I think you know in in in the annals of Heroic Star Wars deaths. There's no no heroic than that one squad the whole all of them you. It's a it's a rare film where so many people go out. Every death had every massive every day at a mailing and a purpose officiant. None of them died for nothing in rogue one yeah and I think like well of Saturday a corporate sponsor ready. You know I have said to you wrote. One is my you preferred. Goto Disney era film trump's. GonNa bust the one I go to that. Solo but say rogue one absolutely absolutely it was one of the best films I've Seen St. Strabag. Oh wow that was really good. Yeah I mean and all the counts. Is that the antics to fantastic at the time I went got. They went down that route. They did it yet. I think Lonzo going to truckee river. This is what makes Cassia is that they sponsor you know sorry. I'm opening be gritty as well. Oh make agree because you think somebody said the other day you know the the W my character star who's got the injured leg casino just shoots him because just `have came as fast as I could walk with now. Leave without me. Is You have news from jet. Come come on an imperial pilot one of the cargo drivers. He defected yesterday. He's telling people that making a weapon the cloyd crystals. That's what a four kind of with look. I have to go what kinds of weapons planet the name the Association in some old friend of so. What's it don't know they were looking for when we left? I have no idea falling apart sold right. This is everywhere what's all this. Let's see some skeptics yeah of course gloves of Utah aw down section night like pointing out of my all yeah. You know that's that's grim I'm not. I think that that's that's green. That was one of the last last scenes I shop but he saw that just showed he had desperate. They were but I think he wouldn't surprise me one iota because he's filming here by used the you will see that done you my couch near the couches nine but you know you'll see that account to come back and thing him in custody and we'll be like fast friends. They'll be like Hanan Landau sort of buddies situation of road warriors. We saw we could get the plans to this. This is how we're GONNA do in you know. This is a monster massive huge mission. Nothing's more important than this. Tahseen E so driven the end the looming war the hill shoot somebody that he's actually really close and I think that's the sort of dark element that we could say the casino and the other thing cricket before we move on these that he actually said the Agar lunar say can we send a talk show and Kathleen Kennedy though not yet so the most offer the oil for it all show that just haven't announced the Daily Mail UK out so that's GonNa Yeah Yeah Oh that I didn't not seen he's panel but did not see that panel of any seen a photo that were that I've not actually seen that panel the world only spoke for two or three minutes days and there was mostly Jokey joke because I obviously get on really well island to joker anyway so great so very absolute sterling now the other thing that wants it 'cause that was swiftly trying to move on right you ever thing came up which which is of today is the one sheet for the the new riser skywalker. I looked awful that looks a typical Disney style poster but then I started looking at thinking economy kind of looks like a fan made poster until actually it came upon psalms dot com. This is the personal home okay really I don't know how did she feel about it. I'm looking at your often Selena because the wallpaper on my mobile phones ritual speaking from your and I like a like a love the colors the colors that worked for me yeah yeah somebody has actually looked into it and found out that the reference image for the U. Palpitation at the back is the toys say no. She's he's Kinda Way. I decided to do that sure Yep. I've seen somebody put Lanta neck yeah. I'm pretty sure she'll be scrolling through today. That hot toys actually referenced it as well but that's folly spawn. It's it's it's it's accurate to the carrots us. That's no big you had people illusion that the Doodoo over that I found ones as well whether it replaced it with a won't really replaced it with Georgia which looks hilarious even even when the sunglasses as well get some glasses yet. A lot of everything is proceeding as I have foreseen and it's it's somebody again I keep talking about what people posted on some of the light out the knowing saw August not the solo in the road ones but knowing saga episodes tease the first teaser posters new galaxy next year and bicycling's I am I actually said that I thought the most impressive as opposed to the fronts alarm McCain and divided shadow against the the hosted. I couldn't really argue that this this is this is weird and what what I think what saddens me in a way when they did the special editions it was great because you had obviously drew Stroz. Yes beautiful new work stall. Was You Luana the coolest disadvantageous everything about and then you find some closing dvr with them unless you tell it again that he's Utah It. I just wish in an era of just photoshop. Ary Of let's tighten the floating head. Let's take that floating character and just collage together and stick took a logo on the top and that's not a big Mall Mall will does it and it works from all because mall was never had the heritage of having beautifully painting posters low store was it just makes me sad that this is mostly doing. I'm not knocking this poster but it just is so sad that he can't they could choose and still looking around. He still paints. I was thinking that yeah well. They couldn't get through retirement. Just do they strike. A grip of mazing stall was on the is the book covers the book when he was doing doing well was he right now. It was a blank per se the logo book company but you know he was doing the covers for them. No Crystal Star Kosher Princess Lay ad okay. You're doing all these aiding. Some of the kids books live doll fight and all that sort of doing that shows the empire and he did a tease. Posta STA which I think was a San Diego Force Awakens think you're right you know so wish he was still doing the poster art for these shows because these films it was a beautiful book that came out just to go off topic break. Rutshuru doing some tools twenty people only in that could date always days and they're on various subjects trading cards also the first one is repeat film but talking about Star Wars posters and he co-wrote Star Wars posters with stay. Stay sense wait so I go through the whole era up to a point of stalls post. Isn't it great there are so many stores posted anything okay before they find the former before they find the consistent style stall was an empire especially had so many posters and nail beautiful stores. Galaxy trading cards reverberated them all back in the mid nineties and I'll just miss that so much. I just miss it so to come to this poster. It's nice but it's not it's not it's not a memorable. It's not GonNa want to throw up on their wall. It'll be on people's phones and so the next poster comes out. Dan You know I think if they left the emperor off in. I think it has to be a slightly better posted Jeremy. Maybe maybe ships something in background not the emperor but I think it's because it looks like it's Oi genital mean needed because I thought to be fair. I thought it was actually for rebels but the the color of it look fantastic after I probably would have it in because I got to save now. Both he's not one that would get. Oh boy traffic drew stews one. Oh come on the last the Scott Walker is the last film come on just give him. Somebody do obey you. If you ask me do it. Somebody did stranger things one in the same same style history Susan. We'll get that guy then do one in the style of eight see how it goes down calm. They not do these posters and put them out then say which do you eh this. Let's do Ryan. I agree you know. A poster sales a lot. These days of posters still big thing always still get them conventions and such. I spoke with the Post Lawson seeing taste. It's just made the same no brainer especially for Staw always I'll tell you something briefly very briefly inch feed Daniels a couple of weeks ago. It was on previous episode of my contracts injury for something else that's coming up in the air and then that we had fifteen minutes to to fifty minutes which was really cool because we've done the rich view saying that the break and he was Boston chilled out and we had a really good insight here. I am one of the things I said to him. You know you you cover not only do you h of the trilogy's but because of that you could for three years of Hollywood's you know you go to the seventies. You can not not the sequels but star wars on its own. You can loot stores. You know remember Fox. Easter released videos the all time greats always thought old Congress news stall was a singing the Ryan and Ben Hur and you know what I mean. All those loop star wars in the proper proper mega cinema classics not boxoffice. Proper Plastics stall was in that conversation you you put a montage rail of films from the I seventy seven decades of the twentieth century he can loaded Audience Charlie Chaplin King Kong in two thousand and one install was fixing without you cover all these areas in that era even the seventies poster. All this immensely treasured and poster arts not treasured anymore. It's a marcus always marketing tool of course on movie. Toying books folks with marketing tool. If impre- videoed is but I just think he's a lost art that stall was evolved shows of all the films franchise install was really should have on it that and stuck with that and trace it back and kept you alive after gravy on now because when outside Guy Nope did you know the fina bins used to get in shops with all the posters or route. I know you do get them book. Pick one out and that was drew. STROUSS in of empire strikes back. Ah That's mine beautiful artwork of white it for the impression that was my favor our attention but Sam Iran lofty equality. I do look at those post. Benji could say you know you pull them out and they are heavily Photoshop Navy. Every single thing is heavily of or so publicity photo. There's no real off aw were going. There's no real ought going into this artwork. If you know what I mean yes stephanie a dime breed and especially when we were growing up is like one of my favorite films is our old horror film could house. This is a house where no away. Should they lived here before you nuts wouldn't be surprised if someone just got fed up in Australia. She was my aunt charter gold. The Roger called has come here but no one is ever alot. This helps knows everything about you. Leave leave. It has been waiting for here. Now it wants you has a new house and after the post draw was of a of a hand there was like a Zombie. Just the hand flow to that press in the Dole Doorbell. You don't actually see that in the Phil Hi of that poster. I got that most if only happy now because it's worth lawmen mornings brother used to work in the video shop and ahead the video poster of House and always saw when I was about fourteen and the only thing I can remember from house pretty much the only thing I remember it was the same where I'm sure the guy was the sports cars join nine of the sports car or something and and there was the same when somebody says something to me and the law that came back was one hundred fifty year old fart may do you wrote sort damn well. You're really really good friend and somebody else really great. That's the only law remember from house. That's about it. That's house to house to after say the house when the House to to my real old age his personal favorites looms but the all wet for a fantastic in fact it look any film in the eighties and nineties. The hour was superb. Man Ivan raided a bull shelter for ghostbusters to post on when that came out. I mean and I was contemplates. Rate in a bus stop for the Phantom Menace Post Dot one that we talked about with the scowl will go with the but the shadow vader when I saw all that man I lost my mom sneak around the middle foggy and I did got me come on come on bodied violates robots at got. I tried a great post up. Things Russia's not anymore. Oh now like I just move right. I'll tell you what just when we go for L. OF LAWN Taibbi Aubrey Schultz. We have now we do know that. De Twenty three at the time of this recording these still going on and the resume the say the might the Inova trailer for ah for the last Jedi. I may be released because his aloft talk that you're GonNa see ray with double-ended light rave bladed lightsaber right and yet you know she's like convey live hundreds of starship since the fathe- but what you do you think is going to be not going to be another trade at twenty three shipping this now the Dome with their trailers. I think from what I understand I think that they showed a show trial it to the people in the room and we as you know the the rest of the world will say that trailer tomorrow. Mundi so we'll see what they saw on one of the things that was sort of said about about what we're saying was the yeah you do see shove right in black robes with noble lady blended Red Lloyd Cyber. I mean I've said ages ago. It wouldn't surprise me if writer and dark now the void from because when when force awakens came out it was it's it's first of all I can think about in you know and it's also I if that Mike Sense but now you've got Disney parks and rising integral carrots and inspirational and Blah Blah. I don't think they will turn right dog so I think will pretend that she's gone dark as a ruse to get closer to the bad guys. That's more failing now. Is that yeah she'll. She'll ply. Show sure play them. Boy Sort of you know going down that that threat and so super soaker plenty of Michigan sounds like cat the plots dark empire hi from the it is yeah yeah the specially out for me then bringing Popa John McCain as because they got British snow because why would they introduce brand new cadillac snow just to bump him off then of course Union Knoxville no lighten God. He's the guy now was could a big kind of Renault. Bring their pro gay. Bring her back in. That's the way I see it yeah yeah. I'm looking forward to it yourself for. Jj's Khaldoon awful lot clean and all he's gone through an awful lot cleaner and that's why I said T- about said there's no real continuity. They should have had a full story from start to finish really for this. It's it's tough I mean I think they're trying to do too much at one time too much at once. It's a lot so ask it so it's a big ask. It's a really big ASS. I think I think they're going to have more joy in a way with television than they have on the big screen but then this is brought them back to the dance. I suppose in these big movies you know. Some some are more successful than others some better than others. It's it's going to be interesting. I think I think going into what feels sales lot more familiar territory in in its in in the sense of certainly the mandatory definitely can't see it. I mean Castellinis Roy in you know original trilogy era they'll be on safe ground there thought Mike Sense Yeah Yeah True and plus you know we still not really heard anything of the Ryan Johnson propose WHO's trilogy nor the game of thrones guys trilogy saying that The game of thrones guys have just been signed by Netflix if I members righty so from you know what's going to happen here because no-one no-one lot Danton of Gema throats no wanted stone was did with them trank at I was going to do the mailman yet and because he's not super bombed. You got rid of him straightaway. Now Me Yeah I mean I said he the eco- economy on the suspect who did they said it was a small he was he was due to come out with Gareth. Edwards do that handle at celebration in Anaheim. Thank you and I were minutes away from from him coming out so it was always a very light decision yeah Chinese especially with Chris Miller and and who's the of a dude the Lord Yeah like you we saw the mid-term at a store celebrations Reynolds in London and they were all for it and they were quickly removed as well because they didn't let you know looks from didn't like the way it was going no-one you watch Spiderman into the multiasset which they had handily handily for God you and I mean they can really pull it together with this kind of with the right kind of look and feel series from but with comic elements to it and now for me and especially with all the all the news that's not about Spiderman is he in is he now knows a dodgy time for marvel. I think at at the moment marvel I mean it's the it's the All Star Trek thing about going to the well too much but then I think more was lucky in the sense that you know if it was if you've got eight shows news about x men characters let's say eight shows about Spiderman verse characters that would fill out too much because it so yes we can they not Miss Marvel Awful Shijo which I'm thrilled about this to look back in the day and moonlights character. I never really read virtue about some kind of intrigued yeah plus you now one eight four by one division winter soldier. Faulconbridge soldier and what's the other one. There's another one locate and one division the wonder which bringing bringing interesting I'm looking forward to all those shows on Disney plus. We need Disney plus Brigadier Disney. I think he's what are we. What are we GONNA get taunted. Disney pulls comes out here so so busy that's for sure. I'M GONNA cancel minimal. I TV BBC because I've just been watching constant. Streaming services never said anyway. It's her reopen talking for for for a long time and this this public more we can go on about book what would do. Marcus will will call day. 'cause it's been quite some time it. You have to go. I have to go supply but SAM I just want to congratulate you auden on yesterday's episode this on the latest podcast of confronts the tracks because you've got this great conversation with Anthony Daniels and which I totally enjoyed listening you were looking cutout to his flat. It was it was pretty. It was pretty okay. Maybe he contacted him about something else and then he replied and said you know he's. He's got president coming out with you. It's no secret he's he's memos coming out light with the sort of asked if I was interested in doing an interview about that which obviously was and yeah I fully expected to be turning to go put a hotel somewhere with loads of the reporters and people sort of up and now it was just mayhem and his wife. I've reports say in the play off. I was which was really really cold. Savigny was in great form. You can hear the incident in a very relaxed suit didn't give anything away about knowing didn't ask anything about disaster enjoyed it and he said yes and the three funds will be very happy is he's pretty go but some mm-hmm yeah it was it was a good interview is good fun and I was very very pleased to be asked to do it so that'll be that'll be appearing lighter on the consign now so that we did without these are now but the full thing. You're the thing that I did with him. Because I thought it was is kind of show I was thinking. Oh Man I wish to stay there longer because he must have no one to talk about as if if I am a book list of people I wanted sought to from the original trilogy would be Mark Hamill Anthony Daniels Indefinite David Prowse of lifts Chalmer them. You know like doc it's as though to have one for all all these great interviews you know you guys are on the bullet absolutely and Gay cells over to to Fanta trikes especially that podcasts fantastic yeah I do. I personally I listened to it and you've got so many podcast coming up soon avenue. You got no individual. What was it six. It's funny because because all she doing on news network over there were four shows going over there and then Lord Fan through and we might contraction and down for the longest time oh I but then launched cannon fodder which literature broadcast podcast at the start of the which is which we had to put on pause for raisins but that's back very soon and and then before in the last month we've always planet liar and disciplining disks so we've got five shows at the moment and this at least three of the shows that we're working on so they could. VIP which is considering that stuff goes on the website and the Youtube channels and obviously we do still fit me around the store was out on the field will come economy dated. We did the PODCAST. I just celebration. We do a lot of events as well. I'm not so sure how are we going to. How are we going to live. Normal Productive Lives I. I didn't stay on top of all of it. We're going to give it. I know because I know you've got a real job as well. Yeah you get time. Because you gotta you do these then you go to conventions as well you do eat junior righty produce my God and I think and I just due to not the god of schedule book tour who just thinking about your schedule gets my heart on on my God can have an obstacle. It's good quality listeners. WanNa go with your website. See the latest news hit the latest podcast then just had two fans are transis one. It's the place to go to for your star. Wars needs leads. That's for sure thank you for that. That's very now where can obviousness gallery of you that you could find me on remorse. Fanta tracksuit suing store on the site but in social media will it's on twitter. It's prefects as in Ford Prefect from hitchhiker says prefects underscore timing on on twitter and that's the best defined me generally. I'm usually almost always on twitter and instagram but I'm so rarely on instagram account honestly asleep even remember my handle on the instrument. I think it might be decided. You might be prefixed yeah. I should know that terrible. It's easy. He's like you say it's it's so busy at the moment and we have we can lock this weekend day twenty three that are just nuts We've still got content coming on the site. I largely from London film coming because we run. The stall was on their side. There's still go back and think probably end of the four five interviews from that coming on the sites. I go so far so good good. It is good and also want to say thank you for putting on your fancy tracks that little about me. Doing we might my midnight cycling Manchester Too PLOP. It absolutely touched me when I saw what I made it into for instance it. I showed everyone would like look up to well. Known stall was found state. Just went yeah and my style was. Hey that's cool now. I mean it was like when it printed on paper are so big thank you to that for that also appreciates it was it took me prohibited intimate. Montana US stay rather. Thank you again for coming on hopefully will try and get your way. You know I'm GONNA go back. 'cause I always always love chatting. especially with the stuff is coming. Apple stalls nowadays magic no anytime anytime. I'll see you later all the best with that. It's the end of the show. Just want to say a big. Thank you to malt new board tracks for coming on the show you know when it comes to style will be noses on his show and it's always a pleasure to have him on your show and I looked and make sure the contracts contracts for the latest news and also listen to his podcast Zico mouth now earlier on I got a call from Mike Mike Son Christopher. I'm these go from Hauling Rover at Florida in Disneyworld galaxies actual day so they give me a cold tummy all that day so I seldom listen to see how it was for them. Shall we thanks go. You'll there in Florida as gone occc badge on the first thing. What was the what was the cue? Did you keep for just fourteen minutes really yeah it was to eighty minutes is spaulding yeah now now all right so we've gone down. The place looks full. That's for sure yeah look for that. No stopping annual coming in now. It's not easy. Jobs stepped my way the McKee's. It is quite good so you've got the blue milk. What was not lying. I would you describe the premium Freebie Barry. Don't royal thinking tastes like a slow seep of more I see yeah and it remained and he's Vegan isn't it yes yeah fan. Milk sounds nice so often in there. I'm they say changes. The taste really yeah ah you can have room in the blue on Kita in degree okay so what was the what was the to rod like. It's not my dogs like Malaysia needs a predefined trying to y your in control how to the pilot's controls the up and down what he can talk to ride then you'll followed by goodness nauseating yeah. I saw Dr and then you followed by engineers now repairing shed because of the damage from the gunners on the pilots okay and you did pretty well. Did you did but what was interesting is. We didn't do very well as a ride and they were saying like Oh. machines broke down and we're walking out the menu out hit all the lives of flickering often that is making sound effects like Akbar. Stay nothing. That's pretty cool nice so I they will you era where she review of it so I would say is the most immersive land I've ever been to is incredible. I came from off aw point of view. I think it'll be cool. You discover the little at least or exit lead in the points of view. That's that's what I love. New Pins. Now imagine dies. I posted the picture of of the the price guide for the t shirts. He sent me online just so ev one. If you went over to Radio Free Endo of course you have to see the prices. Some that is reasonably priced is is a bit expensive line the one day only pain. It's like seventy dollars what I mrs if the size of a very big. I didn't like this is about and nobody yeah yeah tonight the weight of life when he yes it was pretty bad right six dollars. All right issues hit on so what she planned where you go from now. We're GONNA try builder. Toy Detroit. I am is early. Ninety nine dollars fought to toy drive crowd krista mind different behavior. Save your chips in charge Chit Chat so we're gonNA build one now. Rob The line same. Oh you booked him for that that he's you can definitely decided upon today at four we will not be on this year is key even twenty minutes when any oh that's cool pretty good time in that as the food. I talked about food we had to face up to announce this phase with vegetables. It's a Brad on these the army ooh that was really really good. Yeah I really deasy of all I would say yet he is that the coke is all that great all right. Gotcha and I did actually before around about the little cocoa Bosie comprehend back Kenya because TSA rules who went through it like that but that use there's plastic. There'd be empty wolf name. How long are you going to spend in the park today. Then we got here around town that after wait about all of it land going fast I've spent whose day has probably gone and the ride Aghaidh Toys. I never would probably be the first to he ever took into. Your prime comes out pretty well for me. Thank you very much. It's been as soon there was a Hollywood may all the bad a favorite spots favorite system yeah good on only as well and we we all use in polly's phone it further connection as well back or right. Thanks Holly. Thanks Chris see later fantastic now. Remember you can show your for this podcast with an official Radio Free Indonesia available at public also I- toonces the best place to download to sway that please leave his five star review. You can also reach out to us on social meter setris on instagram twitter facebook. We are at Radio Free and you you can find me at Jamie underscore all vans and our email is radio free and Dole achievement. Come See you light is mm-hmm uh welcome to so the Star Trek podcast and we just talk about the Picard series. You know whenever you think Picard. It's data data is the over half for Picard genetics to see cod on these todd is going to be great and it's GonNa be good but I want. I want data there and we all know the he was killed all sorts of skills but if if any people have read the countdown comic that was a Canon you could say that bridged from the next generation to the JJ verse. Dato was a captain wasn't he was the captain of one of the enterprises and considering this show is actually is it written by the guy you wrote that comic news is is eager to use it as a starting point but always on specially now though mark that paramount's now paramount's. Viacom isn't a now backers one so none of this twenty five cent different can just jaw gone now and they can actually bring it all back. Let's have some quality not star Trek back. Please Jeremy and I'm hoping this picard is going to be one of the fast shows because it's in a position where under the forty you've probably already halfway through filming it but they're in a position now that they can. They can change based to make sure it fits improperly now because I was always under the impression and yet it's called Picard Picard twenty-five percent different yeah. It's a good point now that they're all together again it gives them some scope into the things and then they wanna do the can can fold in the you know. The Costal Calvin burst of really just give him some options yeah I. I'm very hopeful for Picard. I think I think that's going to be something. You really special really really special. I don't know it's such a good air at the moment for Star Wars and star Star Trek the trek at the moment struggling to get the next movie dawn is all the rumors about seventeen trek. They had a Oh God Clarkson was GonNa Direct the first star trek fourteen. They call it force the fourth. Jj Bombay started fourteen minutes and now she's moved onto. I think she worked on the game of thrones spinoff she's moved on to that doesn't happen but also the JJ the sorry the Tarantino the thing is still being rumored but but track overseas obviously you've got discovery season three which looks fantastic won't get quite late next year. I think because orgies early next year as well and CBS Netflix Amazon hero other sections thirty one which they say we'll start but won't start until the finish Asian three disco these the Secret Service Organization. That's just not that secret exactly yeah. The worst kept secret in the galaxy. They do talk about isn't it. That's the republic chatted about this before you know when it comes to discovery for me. Even though the effects were beautiful I enjoyed the effects right and everything that the story discovery was a proper letdown because they solve like they must have gone into a room and said as anyone actually seen any star trek and someone gun. I watched watched bit on a plane somewhere yet. You're hired. I want you to write in the next section of the stories may because all the all the cannon window because you like myself know that section thirty one came in around the D. space nine frosty fast and it was an ultra secret. No one knew about it but then in discovery people will get along the corridors in section one. I secret is secret and people they wear their come budgets in the open. Oh God God they know how to keep a secret special so when it gets passed that I'm opening guests will pass discovery. I've not seen anything of discovery every season three yet but it better be something good it better be good because it looks far too futuristic than the before the original animated for the original track weights yes to say you said this to my son if just zero numerous times if they he just said. Oh Yea was set after next generation I would have gone on to present because it looks technically advanced. I mean it does it does nothing troy to explain why because because the ship was experimental an older all the other stuff very neatly figured out the house into the future yet five minutes rather all explained it. Oh Yeah counting yet. If you death that's it so ah somebody went home after that rotted didn't yet don't really quick yeah and think mentioned after the show is going to be penalty that chick please before season three. I do I I know I think it's probably had for years as technology gets better effects. Get better designs. get better more money gets thrown at you know. I probably spend more in catering on an episode of Star Trek Discovery Than they did on whole season of the original star Trek. It's tricky I get I get while they struggled in not sense. Okay the mock will that brings us the end of Star Trek talk and a big. Thank you to mark no anytime by any such as the all the best hello.

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MBW 704: Bagel Philanthropy

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MBW 704: Bagel Philanthropy

"It's time for MAC break weekly. There is a big leak of the IRS. Fourteen it is was leaked out of Apple. Nine to five MAC has broken down. You'll be amazed at the amount of features as Mica Sergeant said on IOS today. It's kind of like ww DC all jammed into about an hour speaking of ww DC. We talk about whether it might be cancelled. There's reason to think it. It might be was never announced so I don't know if you cancel it and we'll celebrate international women's Day. It's all coming up next on macrey quickly. Back break. Weekly comes to you from twits last past studios year focused on security. What are your employees? Last past can ensure they are but making access and authentication seamless visit last dot com slash twit to learn more podcasts. You love from people you trust. This is this. Is Mac break weekly episode seven hundred four recorded Tuesday March Tenth Twenty Twenty Bagel Philanthropy? 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Is THE HOUSE PINK? You should have a pink house. The House is bright yellow. Actually okay yeah even better even better goes well with pink. Her hair is pink for those who just listening and it's beautiful. In fact I think Alex Lindsay said he wished he could have your hair and help you out with that okay great. I was thinking pink with some blue streaks. I like to hear the changes colors. Different Angles Angle. My kids really wanted to Mohawk suggested a Mohawk and I said I don't know why I'm going to be great for talk is it just don't put stuff in it on the show days look like a shortcut and then then you can be great for Tick Talk. Alexander own. I Know Media at Oh nine. Oh Dot media. He is Alex Lindsay on the twitter. And thank you for coming to. Saint Louis is such a great time. Where was it death defying act? But we did it. We flew to Saint. Louis survived survived. Well so far so as well no. I think they said Dow five days. You should well average you get five days. It could be longer but I'm on average you'll have symptoms and it's been five days. Right was Thursday I. I think we're fine. We skated baby. What an amazing place we were at worldwide technology one of our sponsors in St Louis. I was really impressed. I was very impressed. It was a great tour And just just amazing location and amazing services. I it's pretty cool. Yeah we had a great time so that is now a twit live event It's our twitter newsfeed. I think right which is at a news events. I can't advance events so twitter. Tv slash events. It was a panel discussion on the future. Tech in the cloud of someone who does walk-throughs. Really Nice Theater. Oh and by the way. High L. Mike's I'll mile stands everywhere. That impressed the heck out of me. They have good. Taste in them microphones and yeah. They shot it. It was a multi camera shoot and they knew what they were doing they. I mean it was well done. I thought so. Yeah there's those high. Oh Mike's so if you If you're interested in the cloud and we had some great anecdotes great stories Mary Jo Foley Alex Lindsay. That's Mike Dough Roche on the right from Gartner. He'll be on twits. And he was a talker. He was he was great. Yeah and he also he lives in Chicago and makes his own pickles. And he's he's the dead's tour manager. Amazing he well. Yeah Yeah what's at? Ibm that's an interesting contrast. The first two. I think it was IBM first. Then the dead's tour. That is anti NOCCO TO MY RIGHT FROM BOSTON. Public Radio Hello Andrew. Hello but that guy must know how to get drugs and all kinds of. That's that's a skill you got to cultivate. They don't teach you that. In in sound engineer he was the dead in the early nineties for a couple of years. Managing their tours. Okay so so okay. So high blood pressure medication before he wasn't in his nineties and also with us all the way from Montreal. Home of the last great Bagel. It is Mr Rene Ritchie from Roy Moore Dot Com irons through the last two great bagels seemed via her and the other one. Oh God I'm GonNa get my Is Excuse me because we have freezing rain. In that means the power goes off all night and because I have smart accessories they come on whenever the power back on all night and you hugh lights and beep just like every fifteen twenty minutes and I'm back in. This is the savvier still open. Because I the last I saw there were there were under threats in a variety of different ways. One FAIRMONT. Yeah the other. The both of them are are Wood fired ovens and Montreal was GonNa shut that down and then he asked their mission. They said they got a red hike and they were going to close which is Probably they were saved by the BAGEL philanthropists. I would hope what would we do? I mean it's a national treasure eagle. A Lotta a Lotta big hearts there in the community. I don't think that's reported enough. No one of my favorite stories and I don't know if it's Apocryphal. But I believe it's accurate. Is that the factory that makes the cheese Kurds for Putin had a fire and couldn't produce because that was a national disaster other cheese factories donated capacity. That's in Canada so Canada pleasant but they apologized. They didn't do it. I will help. We're sorry speaking of Canada. They always find a way speaking of can. I just got off the phone with Ray Maxwell. Our second favourite Canadian you Rene Ray used to do a show on the network which was a great show called. Maxwell's house in fact all the old episodes are still online worth watching but he's a color professional colors scientists. In fact he was. The Guy explained to me. There's no such color as Magenta think it's Magenta. There's no such color s Any it's a made up colored. Today they were saying that Brown is faked headed just orange with context. I don't know anything in any event Ray happens to have a MAC. Pro is the only person I know. Besides Marquette Brownlee owns a Mac pro marquess is going to be on twitter on Sunday. But I'M GONNA have ray to our hands on tech review of the MAC pro. He has a lot to say and because he's a color scientist. He says the xt artists play is a color scientist dream. I said you get the entry level. Now I kind of got the mid range and then he told me he got the thirty two terabyte. Promise raid in thirty two terabytes. Well He. He shoots a video with his DJ. I Phantom Six K. video with K X seven camera. He He said of course. A great photographer does medium format stuff to really. So maybe he needs all those but he said he discovered the first flaw in the MAC. Pro that thirty two terabyte raid array by promise is cooled by apple and he said there was a little maybe some miscommunication. It overheated on day. Two and he contacted apple and he said that they updated Mac. Os and fifteen Three I guess. It was Os Ten has the fans because up a little bit. If I'm religious about not putting my drives put inside the drive in the computer for me is always the APPs the APPs and the os and everything else and then you have it. Everything's external that way if something goes wrong with the computer always WanNa send the computer in. And I'm not sending data tempting though because you have all that room in a Mac pro case. You have all those bays. It's kind of tempting. It is tempting. Don't thirty two terabytes. Wow Wow I don't know if you saw the verge of you but they they basically loaded up and then ran. Every adobe application possible and said Adobe is not optimized for the MAC pro a not optimized because of the graphics. Gpo yeah that said well. I'm sure you'll have lots of. That'll be a good hands on tech. That's that's coming up. We're going to arrange a date to get ready to review the mad pro in the yard. Hardly a bunch of chrome tabs and see how many guys a real. He's a real user. Oddly enough. The apple APP seem to take full advantage of. What a surprise. Then apertures gone. You can run it. I know I saw two bit but you can run. It tried reading flash on these computers that would. I don't think you can handle this as much as a chrome tab. Yeah almost as much anyway. So I just started. Let's chat out. I think I got an email the other day from guys whenever having maximum I loved that show Maxwell South Great I okay last on Sunday. Twit was like three-quarters cove in nineteen. I'm going to do that to you. But there is some corona virus news. We just give it to you. We'll get it out of the way very very relevant this week. Yes well yeah. It's probably going to get before it stops getting relevant Bunch of stories in the Kafi. Nineteen column Tim Cook outlines measures. He sent a an internal memo outlining measures. That apple's taking in response to the Global. What may be a pandemic Work from home. He says this is a challenging moment. Unprecedented event please feel. He told employees at several global offices. I imagine Italy's one of them. Please feel free to work remotely if your job allows. That's got to be tough if your job doesn't allow yeah. Do you go in any way and take a chance drop allows you get a large percentage of people able to able to work remotely for at least some period of time certainly coders. The hard part I think is that it's not just signed lab is heart. Yeah it's culturally not. Most people would apple go into work. You know so. It's a different different culture. Yeah because I think this is something we discovered is that people who work at home often aren't doing much. It's hard it's hard. I'm sorry lorry but it's true. No no it's not straight. He's that's it does take it. It takes a mentality. You know where you I actually do. More work at home because I'm not spending time driving and I'm not spending and I work. I get up in the morning and start working and then I work all the way into the evening and there's all stops in the middle but it's not. It's just a different kind of work And and also you have to be really good at being visible to the folks that you're working with. That's that's the problem is if we can't see what you're doing and there's no obvious output then we just can't tell you they don't stop like wake up start working. You're lowering both have output. You've got victory you've got articles you've got But if we have a sales like my son all uses an example was working on Fridays. Doing sales you know sales. There's no clear output either make sales of you don't so that's anything that's anyway This policy it added a remarkable conversationally where I talked. I was talking to an analyst and they said well start preparing for a baby boom because after a lot of people do when they stay home we have. We have baby boomers start getting start investing and all those packets consumer package go. So I am the I am the last baby. Boom it was post war all the. Gi's came home and then suddenly there are a lot of babies nine months later And you're the Gen xers. Which were the next the next poem. They were the children of the booms so I was born. Ripples coming off the baby boom yet but yes so interesting both. The millennials came from when Seinfeld ended. Now people had nothing to do. I felt was a double whammy so cooks memo said this applies to corporate offices in the Santa Clara Valley. Where there that has probably outside of Seattle the West Coast hotspot and Elk Grove which is also in California Seattle South Korea Japan Italy Germany France Switzerland and the UK cooks at Apple's making this is interesting a major effort to reduce human density and insure those teams. That are onsite can do their work safely. And with peace of mind and whether in other words spread out because social distancing is another way to reduce infection apples implementing quote new efforts to maximize interpersonal space continuing enhanced deep. Cleanings now one thing we didn't hear about is wwe DC. Although and I don't know if this'll be Germane but apparently Santa Clara County which is where apple is has banned Mass gatherings weeks on on Thursday wasn't abandoned. With just advisory they released along with okay. That was I know that on Thursday. They did a very very long memo basically not saying not saying apple but saying apple. We are making you. We're encouraging large. Mass GATT scheduled last mass gatherings to be postponed or cancelled. As kind of a hint. It's only for two weeks. I just short-term band going to reassess in a couple of weeks yeah if the virus goes away in two weeks can have. Wwe often calendar. And probably Google I O which has already been canceled. F eight facebook's developer conference Google Google Developer Conference both cancelled south by South West. That was Austin saying we. Don't we really don't want all those people come down here and that's going to be disastrous for a lot of these for you know like. I think it's a big economic hit for city to take but at the same time what do you say? Oh we need the restaurants business but we everybody can get sick. You can't do that either. I think it's it's hard like princes. Any be has not the conference that I go to probably more than the other one. has not cancelled. Yeah biggest is not going to say toll. Come to Vegas while the and if they should my guest says the commitment for L. VC is between ten and twenty million dollars. It's not and so they have to have L. BCC release. That's Las Vegas Convention Center release and a B before enemy is going to be able to release the exhibitors. There's a you know otherwise. They'll no dominant and be so you know having people cancelled a Ross's cancelled. Aj's cancelled There's a bunch of people that are not going back. Ross one is a forty by forty booth in the center of the south. Never heard of them. What do they do They they're kind of between hate. I'M GONNA get into trouble from roster. Say those but they are. They are between black magic and grass valley so grass valley is like a little higher end than than black magic a little lower in the grass valley marksman in price range. You know and and definitely there's a lot of feature sets that are really good. But they're usually considered like I can't afford a grass valley so I'll oss and Ross has got really great stuff But the But they're kind of in that niche in a really big and they do a lot of infrastructure many people go to www. Because Santa Clara. I WANNA say a hundred and fifty thousand okay. So that's that's definitely is above the CAP. They say anything more than a thousand people is banned so that pardon me there's seven thousand. Tickets is five thousand okay. But it's so I think that means whether apple announces or not that means there's no dub dub they've only announce this for a few weeks and dubs traditionally in June so the good news is apple has cancelled anything yet because they never announced it. There's nothing cancel right. Does that does put a lot of pressure on them. The fact that all these other conferences just one month before actually just a few weeks before WWE Z. And so if Google is saying that out of a plurality of out of out of an abundance of caution we're canceling the lots of humans getting together and exchanging exchanging handshakes part of it. What does apple say that? We think that intuitive to three weeks it's going to be better or we think that we can organ week and organize and run it in a way that is not going to create a health problem but like but just just like they haven't announced anything yet so they'd have they haven't canceled anything and also a lot of companies are instituting travel bans especially the bigger ones like. You're not allowed to travel. They don't WanNa take on like the health. Yes they're worried about the health but also the risk of anything happening to you and then being held liable is Is just a showstopper for them. Just the difficulty of getting a moving people around whether whether companies are doing travel bans or not. How a lot of people are not Gonna. WanNa move through this quickly because otherwise it's GONNA be. The current virus show apple is giving retail and hourly employees unlimited sink. Leave this is something every company in the in this country should do. I know a lot can't afford to but that's the right and apple certainly can. That's the right thing to do. Hourly employees shouldn't feel like they have to come in and risk you know or if they're ill come in and that's the real risk because they can't afford apple because they've been on this huge open concept design push for a decade like everything is open for them. I convert virus case With an apple employee in Ireland on the core campus. You reported that one. I'm more DOT COM with the headline. Oh L. Steven Steven well-done uh-huh does he get to write the thing above the headline super talented. It's pretty clever. Yeah even sneezing As far as corona virus related APPS There's the problem. There's so many people jumping on this is a gold mine on Reddit and elsewhere with four fake cures and so forth facebook Apple has is reportedly this from business insider rejecting any corona virus related APP rather than trying to figure out whether this is valid or not. If it doesn't come from established health organizations out that if you cover yourself and honey people will stay away from me but not somebody actually saying that or is that you just made that up. I would you know. Youtube is monetize virus or showed the name so they wanted emphasize that as well demand in China for iphones cut in half down to five hundred thousand last month right way to a bunch of the Chinese vendors as well reporting significant sales down Let's talk about the next Iphone there was rumor apple. Would that make an announcement this month? for the whatever. It is the iphone nine the SEC to problems with production. You also problems which is going to China to meet with people right so he and also John Prosser was reporting that they don't want to launch an iphone and have a bunch of people flooded store right now so they're happier to wait while the hopefully the economy will warm up again but also it'll be safer for people to start going in buying again. I have to say go ahead if I'm just saying if if if the market is already down why introduce a new phone if you have the option of delaying it for time? When people are in the summer people are going to be more apt to go out and spend a lot of that money that they have not been spending and lots of activities of the past three months. Oh yeah this is just smart that today at Apple sessions in the San Francisco Bay area and Seattle stores cancelled They also produced capacity store events. Another way of reducing the risk of infection apple had already pulled out a south by South West. They've also cancelled the premier's the apple. Tv premiers they were pointing at South by southwest. Huge head. I I have a lot of folks that I know that that do huge activation at south by southwest. And they're all that's running around trying to figure out how economic hit is kind of hard to overestimate you. Know we're we're seeing AD sales disappear for two which is the exact opposite thing you WanNa do. This is the time to everybody's GONNA listen to a lot more podcasts. You're listening to convince them of that. Is What they call. Lean back on your skis. Lean back you know. Yeah start losing. Yeah well the people do that though at we. I've seen this in other academic downturns although I remember two thousand and eight after the crash That was that was when twit boomed Because for some reason people started doing advertising. Maybe they were trying to recover. Those lost sales we would. We doubled for years after that because everyone was trying to figure out how livestream. Yeah which is. Actually this is really good for nine. Zero right and I'm sure most of those developer conferences will be live streamed at this point. That's what Google is planning to do with I. Oh Yeah Yeah. Let's big opportunity for Microsoft and Google. Now especially since there wisely giving away their their their higher end a video conferencing and live streaming tools for enterprise for free at least through the summer market has been bad for. I mean another economic thing. That doesn't hit everybody but it does hit some people if you're an investor Bad for corona virus bad for Apple. A hundred billion dollars value lost on Monday The stock market went down a record. Amount two thousand points. The dow down eight percent slump. And that's a lot of money out if you're if you can right through it it'll be good for you but if it's bad if that's the sad thing. I mean I find myself Starting to look at how I gotTA get some liquidity. Because you know money's going to be tight and this is exactly the worst time to try to quantity. I would love to keep let it let it ride Han Hi Foxconn says and. I think this is disinformation. We're going to have our plants back to normal this month I think that's a lot like saying. Oh everything's better all done I'm bleeding. I'm very badly hurt. All right that's the Let's see I get it. Oh One more thing corona virus related. I didn't realize this last week I showed how to use a clorox. Disinfecting wiped clean your iphone and said you know. Evidence is that Some viruses can including current events can last as long as nine days on a glass surface. who knew but your iphone. Any phone is going to be. You know you're touching on the time a potential source of infection so disinfected little. Did I know that that actually was not recommended by apple at the time? Because they were. I did it. Because they were a feared. That the OLEA PHOBIC coding that resists fingerprints would be destroyed. apple has changed that they've added in fact by name. Clorox to the list of things you can do with your alone and then God bless Joanna Stern who took a carpal tunnel hit this week. She took an iphone. Eight brand new iphone eight taped half of it off and then wipe the other half. Would this affecting wipes one thousand? Ninety five times she had little clicker one thousand ninety five times and Which she said. Well that's about once a day for three years. No disruption of the OLEA phobic coating at all indistinguishable. She said. She can't say the same for the bathroom cleaner she used on it. I don't know if she was joking or not. But that was. But it's okay to use a clorox wipe disinfecting wiper. Lysol wipe on your iphone. Apple says okay and probably a good idea. I never even thought about this. That's the good. The upside of this is. We're learning a little bit more about hygiene will again. Twenty twenty five to thirty five million flu deaths every single year just about just as a matter of course so hopefully. This will cut that number down as next year next year. Yeah although if this is anything like the Spanish flu it is gonNA come back with a vengeance in the fall if it goes away this summer. Yeah no extra could be more intense than this year. Vaccines Vaccine till twenty twenty one. F- okay that's enough corona virus. Thank you for putting up with that. You know people said what is the corona virus report but it but it is impacting as it is everything else is impacting Tek Evli and so An apple heavily so we thought we'd better better talk about. I think there are some people say. Oh it's just I had a guy called a radio show. So it's all the media. It's all overblown Sensationalistic headlines I said. Oh okay are you a physician. He said No. I'm a piano tuner. I said well. Thank you for your input but five G. IS GONNA kill you Achilles. According to the piano tuners. It's nothing to worry about folks. Okay we have actually. There's a lot of news including massive leaks I guess it's the Beta of Iowa's fourteen and people have been one of the internal builds. Oh it's not the official Bait. It's an internal build league. Should we not do know? My guess is what like what I think. It is an internal build leaks out because if you're outside apple you can't actually load that on a device there stare through the code. Try to see what they can find. We can all these trials missing these days fair. He's a trailblazer in reverse engineering. It's what they're basically doing the reverse engineering and finding what features looking. Well we'll talk. You know we'll talk about it. I mean we see you know why not We may not this phone. At least we can see what we're not getting in just a second also a great Genre we say peace on the arm Mac and how? It might be more doable than we thought. 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You know I have a lot of security around logging in last past dot com slash twit. Start Your journey today. Find out how they can help you and your business I just I just put Lennox on this windows machine. Of course first thing. Install last pass a really saw it saw it solves the whole thing you know gets it all done last past dot com slash twit. Okay let's get some apple news. You WanNa Talk Shall We? Shall we talk about the the developer? Yeah there's a lot to say this is Iowa. Fourteen mouse support first class match. Ios Fourteen like basically like an alcoholic internal build that and this stuff may or may not be present when it actually goes into Beta. Yeah I think the only lesson is this apple's looking at it they've in but it doesn't mean they'll come out in fourteen right they may say after trying it. Yes isn't good. I mean never come. We don't want it to like if it's buggy. Please don't do that this year right but it does show you. What apple is thinking about The we had seen a rumor that there'd be new smart keyboards with track pads. That apparently is Joe is valid in the code and mouse cursor support. I classes moved out of accessibility so I don't know if I like that I don't know if I want a mouse on my pen. Oh that Arab will. If if you're going to justify a thousand dollars for an IPAD PRO and for a lot of I have. I was able to justify thousand dollars for an IPAD. Pro as you really are going to have to beef up you really have to make it a functionally and convenience wise competitive with any notebook you can buy for five or six hundred dollars and the ability to navigate between APPs the ability to take advantage of of having multiple apps open at the same time just by simply moving moving your focus from one place to another and also moving data from one place to another. The absence of track. Pet is just absolutely huge apple decides to do it in a way. That's not just we are not just hey. This is an accessibility feature that we decided to just cut copy and paste it into the main menu. I if they do it better than that that is going to be a huge huge move forward for the IPAD and also dare. I say it a step forward for IOS ability to one day. Supplant the MAC as as a consumer desktop brings us. I mean. It can't do that until you have pointer that's for sure. Always be pro. There'll always be pro but in terms of people coming in to spend a thousand to fifteen hundred dollars for a Mac for for computer. This is what will allow apple two or three or four years from now to say. Hey well you have a macbook pro but those are mostly for people who are doing four K. and AK and sixteen K editing Maybe you should just take a look at this IPAD instead. Yeah and I am usually go ahead. Go AHEAD GO AHEAD. Rene and then then you know I was just GonNa say my understanding is that this started off sincerely accessibility feature where they had people who just had trouble using the multi touch and they have access to mouse and track pads so the enabled it as part of a system touch almost like a an addition to the switch system and they didn't even announce it at the keen on one of the features that Craig's went over when he announced IPAD. Os It was really meant. It came from the accessibility team was methodist has ability feature but the idea of this was is also living in the main team and this is a different implementation than the one that's baked into accessibility. And it's meant to be a first class citizen and the thinking is sort of like you know. Steve. Jobs wouldn't allow Arrow keys on the original MAC because he wanted. You didn't want people to just use Arrow keys and never learn the mouse. And they didn't want to have a mouse or attract pat on the original IPAD. And that's fine as long as it's a tablet but once you make a keyboard and once you can walk into that keyboard you have to provide you have to make that experience absolutely first class and this sounds like A. Does that like the mouse pointer appears when you use a track pad does appear when you're not using it doesn't get in your way but let's do pretty much what you need to do with the track pad and if they can nail that you don't get the toaster fridge which is going to come back and bite them in the by but you get the best of both worlds. Hap- TO CLICK TAP with two fingers to right. Click love that the I mean. I think that the the issue is for a lot of the precision stuff that I do. I still find. That's why I go back to the computer and and it would. It would eliminate. There's probably thirty percent of my work. That still requires A. I'm AMAC or Amac Booker or something for me to do it and half of that. I mean I. I can't say that I would be completely done but the last bits would be just APPs. That aren't running on the pad you know. You know. A truly fully functional Photoshop in a truly you know those types of things vinyl cut and motion and those types of things so So I think that That mouses is key to making network. You Agree Laurie your mouth and there's also I actually yeah. I actually do use the the bridge keyboard with track. Ped- all the time on a macbook pro right now at night one. Yeah Yeah Yeah. Got An early release because they announced tighter. You're not going to be able to get those out. Yeah I have a a pre release. Bill sent me. I Love I love using it. It's it's very clunky. Don't get me wrong because not charge at the bullseye targeting. The win that disappears and all that weird. Yeah because that's the current way exactly but I I use it and I love it because I if I'm using a keyboard just like grenades talking about if I'm using a keyboard it's natural for me to attract PAT or a mouse to click in and do all that kind of stuff and not having to reach my hand to the screen to do that. Stuff has been really pleasant for me so I do think that's a great idea and I also think in addition to just being better for the pros using an IPAD. It's also we. You gotTA consider Apple's kind of original idea with the IPAD. Was this idea of getting rid of computers in how you know. We're moving out of desktop into laptops in mobility and things like that. And here's a way for Somebody to get into the apple environment in a in a computer ish way without needing to buy full computer so you don't have to spend a thousand dollars on an IPAD. You can spend three hundred ninety nine dollars on an IPAD mini and also get to use attract pattern mouse. So you're combining the the comforts that people have of using a master track bed with a tablet and and also allowing people to enter the apple ecosystem at a much less expensive rate by giving them a little bit of both a little bit of the computer that you're familiar with a little bit of the tablet and apple world that you're you're getting into so hey good idea. What about a tool BOOT tablet? That could be Mac. Os and IOS. I'd be amazed if there was a a great comment on the nine to five article when they published it. The guys like you know what I don't care but I hope all your traditional nerds are super happy about it. I feel so apple has been very clear that they're never GONNA put touch on. Meko us and I feel like they don't have the same sense of purity on IOS but it's really a resource problem again Microsoft. Who took them three years using they say could well so Microsoft did not have if they don't have successful touch us so they had to take their engineers and say we're GONNA graph touch onto windows. Apple has a super successful touch based operating system right and it's hard to justify spending three years taking their non touch operating system and making it touch when they feel like they could just spend those three years making ipad. Os Good enough that you want. Ask for it on a Mac Right. No particular order here. I'm going to run through because there's like one hundredth things in this there are. It's not just source code. There's also icons there's icons in here for over the ear headphones Laurie so happy. Those are presumably canceling a kind of a kind of a aside companion to the airport pros in Black GonNa Call Him Studio Pods Studio. Well they're beats right. I mean nearly all it is is really blowing branded now. I know I I would argue that. They're they're not going to just make a copy of beets and put an apple logo on it. They're going to do something different. Otherwise why would they do at all? So I don't know what it's GonNa look like or feel like or sand lake but I'm I'm thinking it's not going to be anything like beets at all. It'll be a completely different headphone experience. I agree with you. One hundred percent because one of the things that really justifies the idea of apple doing a really premium three or four hundred dollar over the year. Not Noise canceling headphone. Is Sony. Success? They they kind of. They don't necessarily own this market but boy every the aspirational brand for I'm in I'm in an open plan office but I want everybody to know that if this if we had if we had individual offices. I would have a corner office because look these Sony headphones. I have those costs three hundred and fifty seven. You box right. Yeah exactly and don't think that anybody I. It was hard to get people who are not into excuse me who are not into beats as a brand to say. I'm going to spend four hundred dollars on a pair of really really exclusive. Makes not only does sound great. But it's GonNa make me feel good headphones. Were as apple. Doesn't have the apple brand won't say these are pair of cheap plastic headphones that have artificial weights in them to make them feel more expensive. That are super super poisonous heavy with bays and annoy everybody everybody in the environment because the leak sound everywhere. So that's a that's an interesting thing for apple to do. I think it would definitely be an apple and also realize the air pods We we haven't heard ear pods since Since they try to make us forget the wires were a thing so I don't know maybe called the earphones. Pro Year pod I. I think there's probably a more up to about six or seven hundred dollars at apple could kind of live in when you get over. That don't do that. Oh boy but I'm saying when you go over that you're getting into a world of of headphones that are pretty. Competitor technically pros. Qc's or what three hundred. But I could see apple saying well we're GONNA take some of the restraints all her engineers and may seven that much nicer to do it and maybe have a version. I mean they already have things that are in the two fifty three hundred they have. Oh they also have beat staff. They have all kinds of stuff in that area. Having something where they let the engineers run a little bit and have it be a little. I can see that as a possibility. I'm not saying they show. I agree with you on these these bose noise cancelling seven hundreds which is their top of the line. Sell very well at four hundred bucks. And so that's the market but you're right. I have hi fi man. That are much more expensive right. Those are audio file. You can spend unlimited amounts like. They were like that require the drivers one. I HAVE TO ADMIT I. The the other factor is that. If they're wireless headphones you're you're dealing with. You can't play on compressed music all right. You're right so I think. That's such a optics. Oh God what if they don't do Bluetooth and they make it just airplanes anything that we want the sound quality why everyone loses then. How much talk. That's actually a good idea. I would definitely change things. Wi Fi direct but everyone was anonymous. Airplay device would lose their minds. But you're you're begging everybody to say we got. We tested these in every single situation. And we've found only only not only only dogs. We were able to hear the difference but only specific brand of dog. That has never been exposed. Apple doesn't do APTEX ON THE IPHONE. But that is supposedly a High Fidelity Bluetooth Kodak. So they could do that I don't I'm not an expert. High Fidelity likes chocolate. He can't use the Johnson that really fidelity WIFI which is good enough direct would be. I think yeah right airplane pretty good amazing enough bandwidth to be good anyway. Maybe they do both but if they can detect another apple device they shift you into Wi fi direct the she pulled rule as our challenges to art or even at Apple's rebuilding their own WI FI. Router is is because they have all the stuff that all these things are connected to in there and then they've externalize this capability of how you connect them all get. It seems crazy. There's a Kodak from APTEX now. Called H D affects hd twenty. They claim twenty four bit. Yeah they they have a HD aptex latency for using with audio and video At a lot of these can be done just by pushing out. Firmware updates The the the Sony Walkman that I recommended a few weeks ago. The previous model of it I I. I thought that the reason why you'd want this new version of the old version was hey. The new version has this new version of Baptists on the old version however just got a firmware update to get the new version of affects hd. So there's there's a lot of people in their player be happy. I make the young happy no matter you make a feeling. It's GonNa Make Neil happy. That's not even live music unless you can have a lake with a boat a speaker on one side Barn. This is crazy. You're not gonna Neal's not going to hear that new IPAD pro will include according to this is again nine to five Max analysis of fourteen slow leak triple Lens Camera Triple Lens Camera and time of flight sensor so you have a three D. Center Wide Angle Lens an Ultra Wide Lens Telephoto Lens. Big UPDATES still one generation behind the iphone but a time of flight means had it would be a head. Yeah because this iphone doesn't have time a flight. Then that's right that's right and of course that's GonNa that's GonNa be great for a are. That's what that is random. An IPAD is a good is would be an interesting. Ar till the only thing is you have to hold it but it's got that nice refined earlier. Yeah it's a big viewfinder and I'm not sure I really want to encourage people to be taking pictures with their IPAD. But since they're doing it at least give them a a blanket over their head like an old camera. Socially acceptable magnesium and also Wilson. That that rumor that they're going to that announcement they're supporting hardware hardware'd digital flashes so maybe a digital like magnesium flash but but that's that's a really big deal especially as the IPAD pro is being used a lot for illustrators the ability to take a picture with your stylus good just simply by editing rob or by simply thieves and that is the basis of a fake watercolor could. There's a there's a lot of potential there that hasn't been used yet. Just please folks don't take your protocol concerts and if and if you look at like what tilt five is doing you know where they have gameplay that is being driven by a are you can see. There's a lot of possibilities with an ipad mounted somewhere looking over a you know a a table and having nothing on the table but everyone playing a game. That's all you know. In in round steering wheel shaped ipad. It'd be amazing mountain just mounted opening if they if they if they weren't going to make a watch around screens. I don't think they're any chances with a front screen. Okay get one of those Nintendo attachments. Right the goes around Porthole Apple. Porthole Porthole Iphone nine well again. The the name nine but whatever that next iphone There's some code there implies. It will support touch. Id and and and Mica. Sergeant had explained this to me earlier on Iowa's Today Express transit capabilities. What is expressed transit? Rene that's when you use it at for example the metro station or the bus station or the train station. They don't want you to have to hold up the line as you're going through by like face tidying it so you can turn on a setting. It's not enabled by default. But you can turn on a setting and then as you walk by. Just Ping's the device charges. You O the whole out your phone. You just yeah. Oh that's great is that is that Bluetooth Must Be Bluetooth Ellie. A it's an Elliott has NFC or far. If I did have to be Bluetooth Kelly I think You can use your watch for those two. Okay yeah but this would be even better. You don't have anything I could see you get to a point like whole foods where they go so we charge you. Well the iphones do that. Now it's just only the face idei phones. What the original touch. Id so much so. This is adding the capability in the hopes that people who have real old touch. Id iphones will update if Eric Frequent transit users. We're it's a huge thing. Is it all? I'll I'll just say that I return New York since they put in at least in midtown Tap to pay at the turnstiles the ability to simply not have to worry about it. We'll never never scans through right the first way and I never know if I've got the two seventy five left and I'm just a little bit under. I've got to spend more than I need to get it on their just the ability to not have that hassle and just know that if. I just simply skin my phone it works. I wish that I wish that the the NBA in Boston. Work that way you have to do this from the. Wallet Because Your choose you have to choose a card that is tied to transit so you go to setting select wall and apple pay. Scroll down you'll see express travelcard. This is a new section named travel cards. Click on that select which card you would like to be your apple travelcard and now it will work and This is the London transit an article about working at least in the tube. Yeah always right. Yeah I would assume it's encrypted because otherwise people could just be having a box and their laptop bag on the subway and simply be skimming to seventy five off you've just by walking single token still to Okay yeah that's a interesting security challenge. Yeah it's it's it's a real problem. It's a it's a bigger problem like for security access inside buildings because you really can't just sit like a if there's a bench near the entrance to a big companies building. You can just simply sit there with a laptop bag. Actually the the lock. Picking lawyer actually built a rake to do this to demonstrate the vulnerability if there's if there's no encryption between the hailing device and the receiving device you just simply sit there play play pokemon whatever you WanNa do and then when you get home you have this wonderful spreadsheet filled with passcodes that you can then just burn onto brand new. Rfid cards because it. The cards are simply designed to respond. That are not secured are designed to simply respond with an access code whenever they're tickled by the radio so it's a huge huge problem. That's why anytime that there is a truly non contactless payment system. You have to make sure that we have to make sure that you understand that is this an encrypted system is an encrypted system apple we knew from Iowa thirteen was planning to release a new apple. Tv box now we know from IOS fourteen. They'll also be a new apple TV remote Don't they I hate the New Apple TV remote screened? Everyone hates it. Yeah no one likes the current apple. Tv or not. I like it. I'm the only person yeah. Yeah it's it's a tiny little track. Pat Like how great is that? That's really cool but it means is you're constantly changing things with that I I. It's so easy to lose that I put it in this pocket which means my front shirt pocket which means that the channels changing randomly. The things rolling as Bhai is that that in inside that they just didn't put a little like buzzer. Beep or something say fine. Mike and find my remote beeps do all they just need to speakers all it needs or at least or at least put some sort of even minimum put some sort of divet on one end of it so that you can buy field. No what you're holding onto that menu circle is your feeling for the Matt and you. Just change the channel. Yeah and also like I tell you something you spend on the TV to do. Well there's route. Would you agree? There's room for improvement. I I would say if they never changed the apple. Tv there be perfectly happy with it. The only like and say that for sure. I'm the only person in the whole world that feels this way like Lisa. My wife says she loves the MAC book keyboard. You know those little thin horrible. Doesn't that hurt you? The finger she doesn't she's not writing no tunnel at one point. She uses a keyboard somewhere around the bottom but I just want one bottom centered button so I know which end is up solid. Want the home button. Be The bottom. Where the normal. Hone iphone goes. Have it in the middle? I'll never I'll never confused. Which way is up again? I'll be happy as long as they keep the remote APP on the phone and the watch. I'm happy I don't have to use this silly thing though but the thing that I dislike if you don't have the remote you can't use your apple TV. But I can use my home pod by just by saying Jimbo turn on vendors endgame on my apple. Tv and it does it but the apple TV won't listen to me. After I tell the it's like it's not talking to me shutting me. I have to tell the five talked and then the you talked to the home pod in response to me. It's abusive relationship. I not deal with you. Talked about the podge. Also these air. Tag trackers which had been rumored for a long time There's a code in there. Including the marketing name tags. And you'll be able to set them up in bulk through IRS. Oh most important. There'll be a user replaceable battery Hallelujah. That that would have been a non starter. Apple would have had been had apple would have had a hard problem hard time not not not talking about the money of one. This is. You'RE GONNA have to buy a new one but basically saying hey we're happy to have a tag that has to be thrown away and putting all this stuff into a landfill as opposed to this little button cell that lasts three days before the the apocalypse is how long when these batteries like rechargeable like when they tried batteries for the mouse for like ten minutes but retired with chargeable batteries. In your mouth retract bad. Then we'd just let me put a little tiny battery in there but then we stick it on. Top of my my wireless charging that is one product for me. The one thing he does right is it has a little lightning connector on it and you have short and it lasts for a long time home. Kit Nile was. Fourteen will recognize your face. Adjust lighting based on the time of day and more. How is it going to recognize your face through the phone? I guess this is Oh no no no. This is home kit secure video which means the cameras will be able to recognize people based on their parents. They say it will be kept on device. Apple is notorious about being careful not to send your face recognition stuff to the Home Office and there'll be a night shift for the lights which I guess good. A lot of us do that anyway already. Yeah that's clever all right Owners of Apple TV Set Top box will be able to configure. An audio output will be used by default. Yes thank goodness so you could say your home podcast. The previously like you could set it up if anything else went to the homepage. They destroyed it. And you just set it all up again this way. You could say I want to dedicate this home to my TV ice and Mica thought that maybe apple would do do a solid and put a sound bar please. Yes please an apples and apples bard because the home pot it sounds good. But it's not the right shape for ten. It doesn't have a top facing speakers which limits its atmos- positional audio. Oh my God. I'm only about halfway through this. Uh I always know code reveals the New Apple. Watch Apple Watch. We'll have a blood oxygen detector. Yeah because it could do that before. I mean probably could do that because they can see your pulse they probably could tell you I don't know And it will also have a tachometer. The new watch face INFO graph pro will have a tachometer which means it. Yeah it's very old school means you? You're an airline pilot. You can calculate how much fuel you'll need. I something I don't know here's a tachometer on a Bowman Melchior. Watch A CULINA. Boom and Mel ca with you do is use. I've never understood these tachometers. Immi how tacky something. That's an ornament. Have a hard time understanding how they put that on the watch. Yeah really because it's a physical dial. Yeah well it's it would be maybe like the way the compass APP is or at least maybe the compass up used to be before they made it so much more digital soy soy. Well it's it's a style thing probably I mean if you're an airline pilot calculating the R- necessarily fuelling on your tachometer please stop. I've talked to pilots who say they did use it for that or that's was the intent or something like that Siri voices customizable by developers. pity to food. Want me to turn off your lights. I was sad to learn that they did not have an eternal contract with John. Legend and the Google Voice. John Legend in a week. I just want Swedish chef. Were all bitten. That's it all responses are like as well off your lights about. That doesn't even say there's no scenes if it says a customizable by developer. Does that mean that series the native Syrian? The system is going to be what we already have but if an APP is using. Siri developers can add voice synthesis to their own APPS. So I am using an honor of Rene Ritchie. I'm using on Syria right now. The South African Voice Right I y'all's in yours. I've been asking you to do that. Do you use it. I go between the Irish because of Tony Stark and Friday and the South African because my parents find it endlessly amusing. It doesn't to me. It doesn't sound like South African. That much either city sounds way way better than it does on the fan. I don't even have no idea what he just said. So you could in theory have an APP that had its own voice but it would be for the APP. Yeah wouldn't change Syrian general. It would just be for the APP. Voice providers the developer from framework. I talked to Tom Tom along time ago. And they were making like homer Simpson and James Earl acts and they just kept saying in England. Everybody just wants the male British voice in America. Everybody's wants the female British voice and that's the only ones that really moved. That's makes sense actually. That's my favorite voice. The female British changing voices all the time just for fun just to have something different to listen. I thought I forgot. I have the Indian of voice on here I love it touched assistant that's British. You're virtual assistant and I liked that because I feel like you're virtual assistant. There's a South African. I forgot I had the Indian now wondered incense South Africa. Me and I can't turn on the lights for you now. I bet the for those who don't know Rene was born and raised like musk in South Africa. I spoke that way until I was in grade school. I guess major accessibility features alipay apple pay wallpaper. App Integration and more no. I don't even know. Read the articles at nine to five. Mac Oh I forgot to mention Oh I did. I talked about the blood oxygen detection feature and that's an an iphone ads mode fourteen coats. Oh yeah kids mode where parents can lock it down. That's cool and also set it up based on their iphones. If the kids don't have an iphone but they want them to have an apple watch they can set up a child watch on their on their iphone. I think that's a really good thing grant. Yeah School Motors. Another really really big thing. I would be great for extend to iphones as well. The ability say during classroom hours. I'm going to limit you to justice receiving amuse emergency texts from your mom or your dad. Can't you can't use it for text messaging? You can't use it for other things so this was the one that I thought was most surprising. Apple doesn't really change the user interface on my phone very often springboard. Hasn't the last update was folders? Apparently they're looking at a list mode so you'll be able to instead of seeing the icons on the front of the phone you'll see a list view. It'll include a list of all application icons making it easier for us to see all their absent once several different sorting options you'll be able to filter applications. That currently have unread. Notifications for example recently used Smart suggestions powered by Siri. The lit fuse did that on the on the Apple. Watch because nobody could figure out carousels. They gave you the ability to toggle it. So yeah we already do have that on the apple. Watch US right. In fact I used that because the girl is like the worst user random generator slightly dot cloud So it would be you thinking it'd be kind of like On my Apple Watch the the ability to change the sort order in much better at ways that also take advantage of the largest green. Yeah I think that's the hardest part where they watch it like I. I realized by the way I use the watch. I don't really care what APPS are on it. It's like I don't look for them. And they appear when I need them and I don't ever really never interacting like where's that APP it just POPs up when I'm when I'm using it. I think a lot of people are like that I mean I don't think function based not APP based. Yeah I feel like if I feel like if you go to no matter what your spot smart watches. We'd go to the smartwatch to launch an APP and solve a problem. That's probably a problem with the design of the watch because it really shouldn't do unless you're starting counter unless you're Starting a fitness thing. It really should not be a place where you focus your attention for more than five seconds. also in the island's fourteen leak a new augmented reality. App code-named Gobi. This claims the report. Actually I should go to the ninety five. Give them the the. Wasn't it all of this work Gobi will allow us to get more information about world around them by using a Qr code like system. So you could you could I don't know what you could read a Qr code and then see more. That's you know you see that all the time. There's t shirts where it shows the anatomy of the body or a dinosaur in motion and stuff like that. So that's not new augmented reality. There's some sort of phony coating in there that lets you signal Think is there anything. Oh sleep APP in the new apple. Watch yeah finally anything. I missed fitness up new fitness APP. I didn't see that one okay. New FITNESS APP. Let's see this is And Pencils Support Seymour. The new fitness APP is called Seymour. And there's some of the exercises you'll be able to do including rolling a log up a hill crushing. Peleton isn't it And then doing ballet dancing dancing ability. Mosh pit mosh pit. Yeah I think probably the most the thing that I I think I think the surprise that we haven't seen faster integration. We see people experimenting with it but fast integration between The phone or the or the watch and exercise equipment where it goes it keeps track of everything it keeps track of your reps your way Kit And it's not. We've been talking about that for a lot of talk about that but the probably haven't been adopted. The Gym Equipment has to do what they want. Is I want to walk up and not know anything. So yeah once we get to a point where you are your watch or your phone most prevalent. Your watch is totally tied into the exercise equipment. It means that it can change my workout. It can change what. What kind of workout. I'm doing it says. Do you know how to do this exercise? And if you don't shows you a little video and then it keeps track of what waits you said it to keep striking. How many wraps it makes the calculation of what the have the beginnings of that. 'cause THEY HAVE. Jim Kit but just almost no equipment in integrates that that's like win. A high end gyms starts doing that It it's going to be a big deal because you're going to have a much better workout bad love. Because a lot of us don't rotate enough we don't rotate are exercises enough. And Yeah and muscle confusion the the reasoning. Jim Might be slow to do that is because they make a lot of money on trainers. Who Do that for you and And so you know I would be. I would invest in in a home version of that though. If if if Jim Kit came to the home spend the extra few hundred dollars to have that that equipment that Supports Jim Kit which also connects to my phone and lets me track that stuff on my activity ab I think it'd be really smart to make it more not just in the gym but eh in your house flex has hit hit version of that and they have dumbbells that kind of talk back to your phone but it's not it's not a complete solution you know and they have they have the right machinery so like the revolution which is what. I have at home That's the one where you change the weight. By twisting Inaba. No you you you have these little weights but they're just springs. Oh add to it But the the mechanism would be really easy for them to automate like that and they have a Swedish chef voice Mr Sticks but yeah so I think that but I think that would the issue as I think. You have a gym like that. They may not make more money on the trainers but what they would make money on is that you would never leave like until other gyms had it like. If YOU'RE A high end. Joe It's a good way to be totally locked in. There was no one would ever go back to a gym. That that it would feel like you're going back to cave world. I think that's the trend. Actually if you look at soul cycle and pellets on these other Smarten ABLED DEVICES. That this is the trend that it can because the thing is your watch knows what your heart rate is. It knows it was all together what you did last night and yesterday and all these days and so it could it could. It could really create a really tight tied to how people Get in shape and on top of everything else. You Trust that Y you. You've already decided to trust apple with that. Data the last thing you WANNA do is Hey. I just signed up for the spy night. Jam And yes. I'M GONNA make sure it has access to every single piece of health data that I have right and yet no no no renee. How many people have a blank screen issues on ipad airs? I see before we go on. Can we just because the one thing that I'm really excited about? Some pencil is a first class. That is so yes so any text field. You can just right into it and it will turn. It is so Newton. I love it. I want it now but I will wait until June. You know what I want is you will recognize your handwriting. Text convert it. Why is your pencil? It sucks have to put it down. Putting virtual screen start typing. Put It away. Pick your pencil up again. Just let me right. But people have such bad handwriting bringing back. Virtual assistance required us to relearn diction gonNA require us to relearn and mature. If if you're gonNA have the machine learning models learn how to read Doctor'S HANDWRITING YOU GOTTA. Start the training. Sooner or later I just want to be able to write over my text and notes. That's all like I be that would be. I'd be happy because right. Now you're anything you do with. Their Pencil has to live in. Its own space. And the text lows in its own space and I'm like annotate you can't draw over text or around it it's terrible. You can't proofread well. You can't proof read and also if you're just thinking about stuff techniques little things down the side and you can't do both of those things at the same time and it's really annoying. I would be nice so that's also potentially now. I know you're not just the tip of the hat to Karston because all of this came in this morning while I was doing Iowa's today so he scrambled at all of this stuff. John Twenty stories to the rundown in about five minutes. Before there's one there's one there's one well how hard these news writers had to work to get on these news articles written karst. Those people should get a raise. Shouldn't they laurie? Yeah Yeah Ben Mayo as hard work. Yeah so well. I don't know I was GONNA say no I don't WanNa talk about it. We don't want to get been in trouble As I thought your and this was kind of interesting in I'm more apple has changed. Its review guidelines. Actually it's Oliver has them That so apple has for a while used notifications as basically as ads. But nobody else has been allowed to do that now. They're saying you can as you'll have done. It wasn't allowed to be done by people have done it. Apple had a huge internal argument about it. We're one team is like no. It's about experience and other team is. Can we please make you money and literally depending on? Who was where what ty and they would get away with it or not which is not ideal so in a way this is making a better because now the APP has to ask permission. And so if you don't say yes he won't get it and so that's a good way to to split this and in fact that really it's a better way than just banning after. I really like Lori. This potentially could be a problem though We asked a couple of. I'm more writers. Wrote a couple of editorials about how they feel about it and it could be great You do have to ask permission. But if for example I use. I don't WanNA throw anyone under the bus. I use a particular calculator APP that I love that and I need. Notifications turned on so that it will remind me of an event but then that that APP starts advertising to me you. You don't get to separate advertisement so define. Yeah that's a good. Yeah and there's also the issue with people there's also the issue with people just it just saying yes to things and not paying attention to what they're doing so it potentially could have a negative effect on the user experience if there's enough bad actors that are taking advantage of Us like not really paying attention to what's what we're saying yes to so it's good but also there's there's a lot of controversy about something like this because it potentially could be bad just for us as iphone users. I think if they increase the whole maybe not just the first time that you get that notification that you say you've been using this for now for two weeks you still want those notifications because I know that with the with the Location tracking having. That's really yeah. It's been really like. Oh why am I letting thing do that and I just say no no? I don't WanNa do that. Which has been devastating for them for the first. But really good for me and so And I think that you know I. I'm fine with putting ads in it as long as I get to do it. And then the APP developer as long as I get a constant reminder in a way to opt out every two weeks or every month or whatever because then it's really on the onus of the APP developer because if they start sending me bunch of ads. I'm just going to be like I'm I don't want this anymore. Turn off and right now. What I'd probably do is just turn off their notifications like altogether like I go into the APP controls and just go. Yeah I don't want from me. I don't want that is lawry's cases. Get the right notifications and have the commercial indications have a separate setting. I only let only a handful of absentee notifications too stressful. Yeah I turn them all off bit by that later. Notifications thrown an idea out there. I don't have a specific thing. I just think that to calculate the prime something that people would would want to do. I didn't WanNA throw any good developers through the bus commenting on that. So I picked the most innocuous thing I can think of. But you're right. You often do push notifications. My calendars have to push notifications. Otherwise there's not much use or reminders. But what you don't but you would like to do and I think this is the right thing to do is separate ones that are saying and you know for fifteen dollars more. You could get a better version of this. Yeah that should be separate. And so. That's the theory anyway. Which is what they don't want the. You'll just mute all the ads immediately. Well of course now. This is what I was going to ask you I have not experienced this. Apparently third generation ipad airs or having blanking screen issues. Apple has issued a service program. Have you heard from readers Anybody A or seen this yourself. I haven't heard from anybody nor have I seen anyone in my twitter. Feed man it often. It's like it's a small percentage of users but at Apple scale that's hundreds of thousands at least on an IPAD. Yeah so so if you have one A third generation IPAD air blanking out. Apple will fix it for you For Free It's a new service and these are all people wonder. Why does this issue a fixing? Mine doesn't Labor fixing keyboards but not graphics. Cards and like most. Big Companies are automated. They have a problem tracking system when a number hits a high enough at alerts them and they look at it and then they if he gets with certain number. It's a bring it in and we'll fix it if it breaks. We'll hire bring it in now and we'll fix it immediately because even higher numbers like we're GonNa take that back here tactic. Take this one instead. It's all automated at this is. This is kind of a scary one. A former apple tech support staffer stole the identities of multiple billionaires including Houston Rockets owner Tremendous sometimes I feel like I'm I am when I take a device to apple if I'm going to hand it off to them even apple I will blank it out and I always I always feel like I'm wearing a tinfoil hat now because the password but doesn't the article say that The the theft was published by purchasing information. The dark web was it. Did the article mentioned that this information for ten dollars on the dark web but so it's not related to her work. I guess is a tech support staffer. It Wa- It wasn't. The article was unclear about whether or not this. It looks like it happened after they were working for tech support. Okay so that's relief. That's a relief Wearing a tin foil hat now. It's it's still prudent to anytime. You don't let personal formation. Get Out of your control unless it's encrypted And so yeah I do. I do the same thing not because I don't trust. I don't trust a apple. It's because I it's just it's just prudent as the reason. Why you you wash your hands is by the way from an apple insider series that. I'M GOING TO CHECK. I used to always use the police blotters in the back of the local newspaper Argus career. Because it's so funny. This is basically their version of that with but for Apple. Imagine the surprise of To Knox County Sheriff's in Knox County Illinois when they pulled over a car that was going one hundred four miles an hour inside the car. Fifty three IPHONE elevens and to iphone. Ten. Max's I guess not as excited but fifty five total phone stolen a phones valued at eighty thousand dollars. for for people were arrested two from New York to from Pennsylvania. We've got about stolen property. All you gotta do is drive the speed a say I had Mike. Carson spectrum sticker was like invalid for like a week at I. I like I drove so carefully. Therapy busted if I had a hundred five hundred thousand two hundred thousand dollars in stolen goods. Oh boy I I don't get it. That was one of my favorite west wing lines. They said how did you catch the guys. And he said Sir Swear to God Broken Tail Light. There is no amount. I've learned over my career that there's no amount of law enforcement manpower funding. They can equal criminals being stupid important. Remember in this day and age and they're trying to break encryption I remember a secret service. I Patrick and I were talking to the Secret Service And that's what he told me. He said you know we can pretty much count on these guys. Just be tom or hand over their password. It's not really that big a deal. Kenosha news reporting a an Ohio man decided to dress as a woman while stealing ipads and iphones from a Walmart in Wisconsin He was joined by a crew act as lookouts. He's bolt cutters to open the cage at the Walmart. Put Twenty four thousand dollars in merchandise into a box toaster box and then paid for the toaster itself checkout aggressive woman. I mean something like no. We put it in the toaster box. Okay and then scan. The toaster box ninety-five dressed as a woman is not gonNA get Any attention at all you know. Obviously a man would never buy a toaster. That's a woman's really need a law and order sound feel for the English college student. Who bought what he thought was a Mac and some iphones for one thousand three hundred thirty eight dollars. If it had only been one thousand three hundred thirty seven dollars that would have been a red flag right and he opened the box at home and instead of the Mac pro and iphones he had seen previously found to lemonade bottles instead. He says he switched the bags on me. I just WANNA know like. Why did they decide on the lemonade? That had put eliminating waste was like it was like raiders of the lost Ark. They were like holding the Mac pro and holding the lemonade going back and forth okay. I think they're saying The Birmingham police are going the extra mile to find a to a to somebody who lost their iphone. Do you recognize these women. That's on the it's on. The homepage of the iphone recovered this iphone. We're hoping to reunite with its owner was stolen in the early hours of the morning from the pitcher and piano in Brindley place. I WanNa bark all the pitcher and the piano British though though maybe not so far we haven't heard of it being stolen. Apparently they were able to arrest the thief and return the phone or maybe not. Maybe they're still looking if you recognize these women all right. That's enough of our police. Blotter are are Iowa's police blotter. Thank you apple insider Apple has not been able to invalidate the California Institute of Technology Patent the patent infringement verdict was questioned Thursday. Weirdly the court. It actually is a little weird because the patent was in fact Reversed I think. But then the court reversed the reversal. It's like vert amax invalidated. You still gotta pay. It's era instead to walk all the way down. Yeah and it's going to cost apple eight hundred thirty eight million dollars Well this is going to Caltech. Oh No I don't I don't want to do an ad. We've got lots more stories. All right doing that. Harrison has decided that he is now the ghost coast of ads future. Our show today brought to you by health. I Q health. I Q is a life insurance agency for people like you who go the extra mile. Take Care Yourself you exercise four more times a week like Laura Gill you get a minimum of eight hours sleep on average like Alex Lindsay. Yes you eat right including a lot of chicken and waffles like Antioch. Oh No I don't think that's in there But here's the deal. 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Lets you run android on your iphone. Seven why would you WanNa do yours like I can make my run like? Why would you WANNA do that? You can have comic songs as your main system. Sometimes I again. Why do why do people climb Everest when there is absolutely nothing to do once you get to the top there because the challenge it is? It's like putting doom on the yes. Yeah it's it's just funded projects castle dot org. If you want to find out more. If I had an iphone seven I would do this just for. I would just do it funny. Jason Heller hosted Alabama entity was asking around. If anybody had an iphone. Seven could do this too. And so if he if he finds we'll we'll show it on all about android they would be interested to see what what part of the big deals. But there's less silly about the stories that it's a jailbreak. It unveils a jailbreak technique. That does not require a notebook to get going though. There is a new jailbreak technique that you can launch now from an android device so it makes it convenient more mobile more back of a front seat of a car as opposed to backseat of a truck. So it's I I would have thought that Joe Breaking was kind of like flared trousers. It had its day. There are people who are insured because of nostalgia but there are people who still actually interested in it. But it's still going on slip. There's there's still security trying to be broken. That's excellent for a long time. A Microsoft had an ad campaign windows. Does what win does what. Apparently there are people who understand that windows did things. apparently Also apple has no qualms about stealing the campaign for a new iphone can do what wall of iphone based tips and we please not spell it that way apple. I mean that's how many as is that for as would have you six. It's it's Bank Bank. It's just uncomfortably close to. Hey Andy and he says what and this is what what. What did he says? What same some apple stores have this look forward at your favorites waffle of iphones with a synchronized animation. Each of them explaining how to do something different. There's a lot of meetings than defined running android that wall. I don't know what it's not. That's not a millennials idea. That's like a generation xers. Who is here? They're going to be taken over by millennial coming up with the idea. Actually they should rename it. Okay boomer IPHONE can do recipes even balance your checkbook tomorrow straight from the original Ad Stephen Warwick writing again at. I'm more DOT COM rumor times. Stephen says the iphone twelve leak claims a bigger battery. Yeah love that a sixty four megapixel camera. Yeah I'd love that. And a one hundred twenty hertz display also a macro ultra-wide mode and night mode. Yes please and thank. You assumed that and I'll be super happy. I'm really okay with like six lenses in the back. I don't I'm not like I don't have a problem with just adding more sensors credit actually. Did Max wind back from everything. Apple pro who I think he's Xga developers. I think everybody apple pro just reported on. Oh okay everything apple pro. Because I'm reading an article and I'm more the refers Arkell and Tom's guide the refers to Max wine back and everything apple pro and then it's all very confusing. There's this new culture lake where people taste from instagram. And then we put it up as their own because they want the cloud. I it's it's very confusing. We're GONNA teach best practices across the book because I always want to refer to the original source and give them credit right so max. This one's for you. Yes that would be weird though if apple were to do use pixel binning as a an actual feature. I mean right now they it's I. I like the way that apple and other manufacturers do that kind of technique where they're saying they don't say. Hey we've got a forty eight megapixel or sixty one hundred Kudrin CA Jillian megapixel sensor. They say they say that. Hey Look at how good are digital. Zoom is even though it's using the same technique of were trying to calculate what pixels would be ins been between the real pixels. If we had a sense of that that was that good So and but the better off another pardon me wonders that if apple if a company like apple were to actually stand behind this as a forty eight megapixel tr- we we are willing to stay. This is your if we say you're going to get forty eight megapixel of of of data and they're each of those pixels is going to be actually good and usable invaluable as opposed to what you've got on the Galaxy s twenty which is okay we counted. That is indeed a lot of mega pixels but none of them are actually usable. You don't WanNa act actually zoom in close enough to actually take US gentlemen. We get three hundred sixty four days a year but one day every year. We did the lady. It's International Women's Day while it was but I wasn't around March. He's on Sunday. Get One day Lori hand you got today Lady Day One day. It's it's great every year already questions do this year. I'm currently in the process of interviewing APP DEVELOPERS. presidents of companies engineers Game designers all women for the entire month of March a be rolling out throughout the rest of this week and next week and just kind of spotlighting them and reminding everyone. This is what it always comes to comes up for me around this time of year There's a lot of this sort of incorrect sentiment that there aren't enough women in tech or women don't art they're not interested in tech or we can't find any women to do the job in this tech job that we want to do and that's absolutely not true. They're out there and they're they're hungry for work and it's actually getting bigger and bigger as time goes by more and more women are interested in participating in different types of technology positions. You know whether it's coating or running a company or designing or something like that they're out there and they are participating in it and there are a lot of women and I just WanNa make sure that the history books don't write women out of of the technological advances that have that have happened in in the world though the way women have been written out of certain other You know the categories in the world. I'm thinking music So I I feel that it's important that we continue to raise awareness and remind people that there are a lot of women out there that are doing a lot of incredible things especially in the world. Where we we? We kind of consider that to be not Filled with women. They're all out there. We don't see them as often as we should. But they're doing all kinds of things behind the scenes and and really making strides in making huge changes around the world so women women actually It is women's history month so we should give at least that and apple. I thought they did a great thing in the APP store highlighting women's developers women companies There are events There were events. spotlighting women in these. She creates series at apple stores and online which I think is is really great for the entire month of of a March Apple is having women participate in these hosting these these. Because I don't think Alicia keys is coming up. His tour know they. They're different so first of all different stores in different locations are going to have you know different offense. And that's specifically the Alicia keys is not going to be there. They're allowing you to go in and Remix of Alicia keys song successful. Yeah these are the good. Oh my gosh they love them and and they they learn a lot They come back. I mean I think they might. My daughter goes and she remix some other bands stuff in garage band and she comes back with all kinds of new ideas of what she can do and what they do a lot of times you see that. That creator is on the big screen and talking about stuff. I saw the Zach King. One I think one of the stores and so he's like talking about how quick things with your phone and then the And I think it's a really great model for education. I think they're doing a good job there. And and of packing these like really cool assets along with Something gets you excited. Because there's a video of the really famous person and then you have staff that's been really well trained to kind of walk the kids through it. It's a it's a really strong model. I think the only reason I talked about it a lot. I'm always amazed at my kids. Come back with these stories about what they learned at the Apple Store and I wish they'd learned that at school Duke do check with your local apple store Because as I mentioned at the beginning of the Shampoo Corona virus some of these today are being cancelled in certain areas downstream. Not that I am opinion about that. Who WOULD YOU CANAL MONTHS YEAR? And the you know this. This darn virus is taking our month away. Some come on. We should have a Redo. Do over. You should get October scarring. Half the year should be women's but months with all right. Dan Dailey every Damn Day. Apple Music is asking Lady Gaga to help as well The music streaming services new artists in residence. She's curated apply a playlist called women of choice. Of course her single stupid love is on it. But also music from Saint Vincent Resilient Grimes Charlie X is how you say that it's not nineteen ten or whatever and I am among others Taylor swift will also get one. Meghan trainor Kalani and highly Steinfeld. We'll have other artists curated playlists and beats one will feature interviews with women. Selena Gomez Demi Levada Miranda Lambert duleep and Halsey among others so good. Thank you apple Meanwhile Apple spotify others accused of music industry conspiracy related story a new anti-trust lawsuit filed yesterday claims Apple and other companies have built out in the illegal buyers conspiracy to block out licensing competition the complaint was filed with the US District Court for the district of Connecticut By a Pre Performers Rights Organization. Pio Pro Music Rights. Pm are They're suing the entire streaming music history and broadcasting and entities including not just apple but Amazon Google spotify soundcloud claiming they entered into an illegal agreement combination and or conspiracy. In other words they colluded to shut out of the market and fix prices. This is why we can't have nice things. Well I don't know I did also just read it article that the music industry is having the best year had last year the best year. It's had since in like ten years and there were of streaming music. There are a lot of us that were saying that ten years ago like we just moved subscription. We're GONNA make a lot more everyone's GonNa make a lot more money and there's going to be this down thing and then You know there's a lot of just like you guys are nuts you know. Why would you not get paid every time someone plays it when they buy a CD and then they played that CD over and over and over again because it's their favorite city? Artists doesn't get any more money but when you play it on spotify over and over and over again or apple music over and over again to get paid every time now that we get. They don't get paid a lot but they still get whatever their you know so. Pm ours actually. Just one twenty year old guy named Jake Knock Lunatic Okay And the reason he's doing in Connecticut I guess that's where he is he they say he was streaming works that they've licensed to use in. Connecticut having purchased licenses from BMI but not directly from PM OUR PM our says we have the right to license two million works from Asep Rocky Wiz Khalifa ferrall young or young is it cheesy little Yadi. I always get in trouble with these names. Souljah boy nipsy Russell. Two chains migos fall out boy's and others He said you gotta come to meet a license. It not be. Am I so I will decide? Who were you already you are via with? Pm YOU WOULD BE BMI and ask cabin everybody else. There's not really any reason for the for these guys to deal with anybody else. Third Party I like. Why would imagine how crazy would be insanity? It'd be hard to. I'm sure the courts will have something to say. Say Your Nutjob. I bet you this gets this gets dismissed summarily dismissed as because he's a nutjob we called your parents. Yeah exactly you call your parents and we're sending you home. Stop Well on the other hand. Maybe he's just a real go-getter yeah we got some pr out of it. Maybe that's what it's all about. I don't know it's got that sort of seems like it's just somebody who is like I want. My cut is kind of the idea by in this of like you know. There's a lot of people out there that went into that. Did the work to make the music good. And somebody just wants to own licensing rights to it and then sue people are not you know for for sharing licensing rights with other people. It sounds like to so I don't know this all this stuff seems a little shady man it is. It always rubs me the wrong way when it comes to music. Stephan people wanting more money while the the actual artists aren't getting you know they're getting less and less because these other companies are wanting more and more so I don't know stopping true unsigned artist. Exactly uh so you didn't have a deal with. Pm are with Jake. I did not have diligence. Burn is he's not represented by. Pm are not represented by Jake. All right let's take a break. Get your your picks of the week prepared and ready Because we are going to wrap things up but first a word from our sponsor. I'm just logging into my hover account hovers where I register all my domain names and I can give you a couple of reasons why I'm a big fan of hover. Let me just put my two factor. And that's one of the reasons I'm a big Fan. Hovers security is excellent. In fact there was at one point somebody who was going around trying to hijack podcasters you are else. I got a call from hover immediately. Saying Hey we've had this problem. We're going to fix it. Put Two factor on. 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Eighth of nineteen seventy the first episode of the HITCHHIKER's Guide to the galaxy. On on that how long it's been that's amazing and is the forty second anniversary which you're not going to someone are celebrating fifty okay. We'll celebrate the fiftieth as well. But you got to celebrate the forty second And so this is a good chance to remind people who maybe a lot of a lot of these things skip a generation so there's a whole generation that didn't grow up with peers. Who are like. Oh my God you haven't read the history of the Galaxy you see here. Take my copy. Take your immunity gives back It's it's still just one of the funniest one of the best one of the most influential Science fiction books ever written and for me especially like as a kid I was. I had lots of friends who are into science fiction but I didn't like most of the science fiction that they recommended because a lot of it was I. I'm forty three years old and I'm going to explain to you. How am I think the universe would be different if they were all square like okay characters plot none open okay now also because the door knobs or square? I'm not really interested in the square door. No this is. It was full of fantasy and just absurd them. Influenced by MONTY PYTHON INFLUENCED BY BY TEACHING. What House and every single page. It was this is just absolute silliness from page after page after page but with coherence. And it all started off with this. Bbc Radio Series and one of the reasons why it's just so bizarre is because Douglas Adams was real even even decades after his death the legend of how he just did not want to get anything done on time persists if anything it has magnified like a giant prism spreading out throughout the throughout the cosmos. So he oftentimes. He was writing scripts as the thing was being recorded. Like they'd be recording act one and he'd be in another room like writing accuracy Here's the group All Oh oh you got lorries got it. That's and I and the radio series is the best one. This is the the group. Douglas Adams and the performers at the BBC theatre. Let me play every time I hear. I think he can play a little bit of this. Can you get my audio? You can hear all women I turn it off. Turn let's turn it back on found with premium from Massimo public. I recorded the public radio one. So that's why that's begins with that. But here's the sound. The Eagles Song the begins it. I got into the galaxy. I Douglas Adams Peter Jones as the book. Something's wrong with an sped up so I apologize. But there's the music ooh every time. I hear that I get show. Yeah so remember you. We talk about the books we talk about the movie we talk about the TV. Show what it was originally a BBC radio show as you said. Douglas Adams was writing as as they were up going to the studio and it is one of the greatest radio shows of all time is and and and I would say so pan the McDonalds the Macmillan publisher. I think pan something they're doing like reprints of the entire series including including the radio scripts. I would suggest if you can't get a hold of the definitely listen to the radio series But the books are also amazing. The first the first three. Let's say and maybe the fourth in the series are also good the fifth and at this point they were. The publisher was basically saying. Hi but I really want to write this book about traveling the world and looking for looking for nearly extinct species okay. We will let you write that book if you write. Us another multimillion. I'm sorry I another series another Hitchhiker's book And so I've the even the the book radio scripts is an amazingly good. Rica's has all stage directions and all the background stuff. And so it's I. This is a series. Every still spit up. I'M GONNA have to get a new copy of it did you buy that. Lori cassettes It was a it was a Christmas present to me but I believe they found it on Amazon so I think that. I don't think it's hard to find that it's a it's a it's set audible. Good all right. 'cause I like I said I recorded this off the radio. Maybe that's why after being that's why it's after being translated over and over and over again it's slightly sped up. I agree one hundred percent forty second anniversary a hard to believe hitchhikers guide fancier and everything in the universe for deaths right forty. Oh that's why it's a big deal over donald less. I said that last week when I recommended that Vilson feel beg that all my life has ever since I was a little kid. Part of me was like at some point. I'm going to have to acquire a bag. That's what I figure is exactly like what Ford Prefect was traveling. The universe with as a field as a as a field contributor hitchhiker talent and of course. I feel exactly that that. That's that's why that's why because you can put the towel on top of it and then there's a lot on the on the there's the I think the one you're looking for is narrated by Peter Jones Simon Jones. You know the long lineages audiobook which is like Stephen Fry and Martin Focus. That's fine. It's very good. You should have it all you should. Yeah it's true. You should pretty much everyone that I know. If you say I've got I've got a question. The the the the reaction always forty two. This is like you know. And then and then and then we can figure it out. It's show James Thompson. Rene Ritchie has a great Pick for us as well Rene. Yeah so in order to compete with Andy who just kept looking more and more realistic. Every week I had to up my Webcam Game. I tried everything I tried. Dealers tried Cinta cameras. Nothing worked so finally I broke down and I. It's not quite what Lorie had last time I think she had something a little bit fancier but I got the Logitech Four K. camera. And it's just yeah. Yeah it's just. It's the detainees P. One hundred thousand for so long and it was a good camera. It's time but when I saw Lori looked like with the latest and greatest technology I had I knew I had dealt my game. So it's a little bit pricier. It's one ninety nine I was thinking about it. I was thinking I was thinking. Wow you look really good. I figured you just you just got the new Web Or is it the Capture Him is that right. Is that what you have Lori? Os sorry it's the Stream Cam so but yeah so the stream so I thought that was you just. You just followed what she did But you know I swerved you wouldn't even better now. It looks good. Looks really good. And it's good now because everyone is stressing remote work and distancing and all these things and if you if you use MAC books for all of their virtues do not have good Webcam. It's not something. That apple has prioritized over super slim. Lives so this it can either I have mine on a guerilla pod but you can unscrew the little flap there and just mounted on tripod you you want but you can get it with this and just put on the back of your display especially if you don't have a Webcam and just the better you look the more like in real life I find the experience feels it is. Usb On that side it does not USB see on the other side. I felt a little bit like I was caught in a time machine so I just pulled that plug out. It's like a proper USB USB there. There's there's Andy's version hopefully helping out because you can't show off this camera because you're using the scam using it mine. Yep Yep so yes. Here's the the IT's a big? It's a big advantage over the previous edition of this camera because On the previous edition the what the thing that lets you. Screw it into a tripod him purchase on top of your monitor as actually like hard mounted into the thing which made it almost impossible to like PAC for travel but when it comes with a detachable version of that The only the only caveat I will give if you have an older Mac like twenty fifteen Ma- or excuse me. I've let's say a mid range. I five Mac. From a few years ago. You might find that the You can't stream in four K. Or use the digital zoom features of it. Because I found that when I when I have this plugged into my macbook by Matt by two Thousand Fifteen macbook pro. It is a four K camera and the logitech software you can download. Let's use digital zoom. So you're still getting full. Hd even though you're using digital zoom but it was still pumping so much data into that into that USB port that it was downscaling it is quite severely. So I wasn't getting the advantages. I thought it was going to be able to get out of a more modern Mac and higher higher capacity mce works great and I and I really think that that logic is really kind of cornered this market as far as high quality cameras. I mean whether it's the nine twenty s. We were our standard for a long time. And I think they now have the nine twenty two and then the Stream Cam and then the Brio and I think that's the best class of of cameras right now at different price points And I've tested a lot of Webcam you know and and I think the detail that were that that you see And even just the what it does with light sensitivity and control over the campus. I think is the best. It's not it's not just the resolution. If you're a nine twenty it really is like I. I'm actually doing this with the nine twentieth. Still haven't I need to swap out some hardware as you will not see quite so much of this blooming? You'd see better shadow detail Once I swap out I I'm I'm swapping new nuke new computer onto the station and that's what I'm going to be Putting this in permanently but you can see the difference. It's it's a good. It's a good situation but it'll be a lot lot better just with simply tonality so even if you don't care about four K. You'll get a big improvement in the video quality and you really can't I mean we've done some stuff where we're taking multiples of these cameras and plugging them in and using wire cast or obese where you're jumping between those cameras if you're really looking for a cost effective way to Do live streaming. Is You know that that starts out. I got that black magic mini eight. Tim I was GonNa pick the cannon see five hundred Tulio that has hd and my out but it's not a great Webcam. Yeah that's also probably more than two hundred bucks. I'm guessing thank you. Good pick could pick We've used logitech cameras and set them out for years but that one looks even better than usual. That's really good Ladies and gentlemen it's time for Alex Lindsay's Piccolo Awake so quick times great time. Even they still offer quick. They do free. If so quick quicktime pro there's no more quicktime quicktime. Okay it's great and I use it a lot to do screen records and to playback stuff and it's on everything and you can pop it open but some of us need something more refined well you need. Let's crops flops. I do do need so i. I actually needed this because I I almost everything on my black magic hammer in in log and so being able to have look being able to open something up and then have a look up table and being able to really look at what. I'm you know and having a more refined player than I can use. So this is a green log is a professional format that doesn't like rhythmic. It doesn't but But the people so if you're out there shooting in law and then posting it to youtube any transparent shame on. That's a weird look at the reason. Because you're getting more data but you have you have to play a lot. Look up table otherwise it won't look like it. Was someone coffee on it. Yeah so so the You have to look up table and and you can do that final cut. You can do it in a lot in affects and premier all those things but but the the IDEAS THAT. I've what do I want to open it? I just want to view it I wanNA have you know Really be able to play with what that looks like Being able to kind of have Look at image sequences All of these things are things that are important and so this is a great APP. It feels pro. It has the tools that you need And so if you're really looking you know there's all these things that people like me really want and so if you're listening and you're really into more looking for a pro Player that really gives you all that kind of power user data. I think this is the best solution. I've I've found as a kind of a lightweight Playback tool that I can just kind of opened up. It's not like opening in the final cut opening to something. This is what you're tick tock videos. Now he's fine. This is what I what I preview the playbacks on you know so. Yeah so Ninety Nine Bucks a year twenty nine bucks thereafter It's IT'S. It's not something that if you just need a price but for pro that's not a big number in it and all of these tools to be all kind of put in here and you can do some export and Trans Code. So no I love for all of the features. It's got just a pure clean display. Well and the other nice thing about it is. You can't hide it. Also like a little carrot. They're on the right and you can roll it up. Roll it down. So you're not stuck with having all but you can open it up and then have all these tools. So it's it it does allow you to have kind of a clean Aperture when you when you want it And so I just think that this is how you turn on all now. This is how you really if you're doing kind of pro work and you want to be able to view it. It's not for your average person to just put you know to get. The Senate also works with they have another one called lattice which allows you to kind of build a lot sort of great new lots and and work with what's so and so forth so There's a couple of different options there and so it's a but it's a. It's a very useful quite amazing when a lot of stuff in here. Yeah I like the Barcode. I haven't used the Barcode. It's kind of like I was kind of like. I don't know what to do with that but I think that it does give you A look of your entire film so if you had something really long you can take a look at it and see if In some of this gives you a sense of what color is you're going through in different scenes But I again I So the Barcode basically takes the kind of the color from any given frame and put them all together. Squeezes all together into one Long image looks like Barco Barco but you kind of like if your film gloomy and grey it will be gloomy and grey like. This is the gloomy. You can see here that you had the act. One was sonny right and then act to was very gray. Act Three was sunny again so they they got him. They describe the tree and act one. They got him up the tree inactive and they got him down the tree. I interviewed recently. Karston That does this for movies. Like this was his thing he was doing and he was doing big prints big long prince but he couldn't ever get Hollywood to buy into it. Was somebody really cool? And I've just forgot. Screen is available from video village. Dot Co dot. Co for ninety. As I said ninety nine bucks could pick Laura Gill has a cineastes pick to hello Laura Gill high so Max. Von Snow passed away. Yesterday he was ninety years old. And he's awesome. He's been in so many movies that I think. If you don't know his name you would know you. Would you would just now him. Because he's he's just been a working actor for a very very long time This pig actually comes from Carson. Thank you Karston for the recommendation. On this I had never heard of this movie before yesterday. It's called the apple war and its stars Max von Sit out say Swedish film from Nineteen seventy-one about A very small rural town in Sweden That is being There's some some investors that want to come in and they want to build a Deutsche knee land. Which would be a very large amusement. Park just retains. Yep Everyone's on board with it at first because it seems like a really great idea it'll bring in You know more tourists to buy things and there's this amazing sort of city council meeting or or a resident meeting at the beginning. We're all these people are asking. Well you know I'm a pig farmer. Do you think that you know I could raise these pigs? And maybe sell them to the children's so that they can have them as pets and then I could even buy them back from them when they're all grown up and I could butcher them and sell them for meat and there's this investor guy who's like. Yeah that's a possibility. So there's all these sort of these people that are asking. How will this benefit my town? And there's this this investor who's kind of like sure that that that's a possibility. So they all get on board with at first but then they they start to realize that. Maybe this isn't really going to be such a great idea for the for the town to bring in this giant conglomerate. It's very much Hitting Home Life and community against these giant corporations that that would come in and just level out something and turn it into an amusement park and that sort of paving paradise idea behind it. It's got fantastical elements in it. There's a little magic to be had in the the family that Max von Sydow is is the head of at the tombs trick and use magic to to kind of get the town back to. Its its roots and not have this giant amusement park built in their in their town so it it's a very lovely little story and I found a version of IT ON YOUTUBE. That has Us I was GONNA say found this. Because of the Nineteen seventy-one movie from Sweden is not going to be a net flicks. It's yeah it's very hard to find it. It's because I wanted to to watch this before today. I didn't go find a DVD copy that had subtitles. Don't even know if that exists. Actually but I did find somebody on Youtube and I don't want to You know it's a movie so I want people to buy it so I don't yeah. I don't want to mislead people but I did find it on the Internet with English subtitles on Youtube. So if you want to do the search yourself you should be able to find it. And it's really great honestly. That's one of those things where I wish that that this could happen more so that I wouldn't have been able to watch that movie if it weren't for the fact that just somebody who loved this movie. Put it up with subtitles in. Us subtitled. So I could see it so it's Great Apple Creek at apple he plays. He plays the family fighting. Deutsche kneeland which is being built by. Somebody called Jean Volkswagen. They're a little bit of satire satirical and lighthearted and fun on the advert cool. I'm going to save my pick for the end of the show. Where show it? We have a new show coming a couple of weeks to tweet called hands on Macintosh. I said you know what I WANNA do this one. So we're going to have a lot of fun. Showing the first thing I show is the better tool border. Touch bar but We'll talk a little. I'm going to do a lot of terminal stuff because I'm all about the terminal and brew and so that's GonNa be a lot of fun. It'll be a weekly show comes out every Friday short five ten minutes. Quick Hits Little Mac. Tips for the expert and the inexpert. So we'll play a little promo for that at the end of the show but I wanNA to thank everybody for being here In women's months it's so important to have a woman in the show. Thank you Laura Gill for May interest more than just a sausage fest. She's managing every month every month. She's a woman it's amazing. She's just very consistent that way Catcher band sick burn at a theater near you apostolic on the twitter. Apa H. O. L. I K. Thank you so. Thank you so much for having me. I feel really good about being the bread in this sausage factory. Oh Jeez Alex Lindsay's the mustard. He is Irish. 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I'm more DOT COM riddick. We have no such elections today Sir. No them randomly whenever the Queen feels like. I Know I love that about you. Guys you crazy. What else is great? The voting no-confidence anytime a government. Bill doesn't pass. You can have an election. It's just fantastic. Cleans up all the COBWEBS. Mr Alex Lindsay is also here sands. I voted sticker. But you're going to vote later in the day not are you an anarchist. I'm not an anarchist. Okay Alex is a nihilist nihilists. Somebody who's not doesn't vote is a nihilist can you? I don't think there's anybody Zero Nine Zero Dot Media News Streaming Media Guy meet director at Alex Lindsay at twitter and Andy and that goes also hear from Baston where I believe. They're also voting. Some of US are voting. Some of US are drinking. Go St Patty's Day's coming up so you know the anti annual time in which you don't want to read the Boston Herald defined with what group and third grade. Yes Google keeps getting band. I don't know why I don't know why So I just want to let the word go forth that Steve. Wozniak is not patient zero. Don't play don't Steve. Now Steve. You know what? Steve is a big hearted bear of a guy. Who doesn't I think he's not? He has no filter. He has no playful nature. Yeah and so he kinda got some attention tweeting yesterday. Checking out Janet's bad cough. They came back from Asia. January fourth Just came back from China. This is what got him in a little trouble may have both been patient zero in the US curse. All of all of WOZNIAK's tweets come from swarm because maybe he forgot that he connected his four square to his twitter. I Dunno but you're always check ins so he's at the West Coast supports instituted. Santa Clara He was interviewed later and said Yeah. Both John and I were really sick when we came back. He said I hardly move for a week. He had he had engagement Las Vegas and he Stayed home but I think it's safe to say Janet. Later was diagnosed with a sinus infection. I think it's safe to say that. Steve Wozniak is not patients zero. Yeah Yeah I think is is how does she go? Two months without getting checked with a with a sinus infection. That must've been awful painful. Had that before it's very painful takes me days. I can't handle this confusion drugs right. Yeah so My best friend is actually a lot like the was. I would assume that he is constantly sending me messages of things that he wants to tweet. And I'm constantly saying big humor exactly. He's got that sense of humor is like do you think people think this is funny. I think your friends will think this is funny but people on the Internet. Not so much. Don't tweet it in quarters of my tweets. Yeah he needs a filter. Yeah Yeah but I had. I had twenty seventy this morning and I thought I'd pressed the post button but I didn't know twice. I suddenly thought that would be such a great feature for every APP in which you are going to post anything anywhere that it won't post to you. Click at the second time and L. You won't be a warning just say. Oh Oh God there was a Typo in that thank God in post. That of course. Usa Today being the newspaper of record followed it up called was took. A great picture took a great picture. He says Both wasn't Janet Heads Sore throats and coughs when they returned from Southeast Asia. He was scheduled to make a handful of appearances in Las Vegas right after the trip only made a couple. I couldn't speak because he lost his voice. We cancelled everything else to head home. I couldn't move out of bed for two days. I did tell everyone I was sick. Stayed away from almost all in Las Vegas was said it was the worst flu of our lives. Janet was coughing up blood that does not sound science. No that's not good to the hospital. They said it was no American flu. We've not been able to get tested. That's the problem right now at our return from Southeast Asia today we certainly have been tested in quarantine with symptoms. We had. It wasn't treated as important January fourth. He noticed know. This is the sad state of our country right now. He notified the Centers for disease. Control received a form letter advising him to wash his hands. Okay also that's a good thing to do. Yeah little late might have said something like and don't go out in public for fourteen days. I don't know this seems like they're could've tweet. And whatever you say your patient zero I just had to bring that up He's fine he's calling it was. I do wonder what I do. I do wonder where the line is between Being forthright about your travel to make sure that if you did pick up something that you can be quarantined or at least be observed and not wanting to put your entire community in a panic just because you've been in an airport outside of the United States anytime in the last two months. Yeah we're we're starting to tip the regarding to start a tip over into that. That thick border between being well advised being well informed being well prepared and suddenly like now the now restaurants in Chinatown are having trouble booking titles right which is just stupid. We are You know south by southwest will continue in a couple of weeks but already twitter and facebook announced. They won't be going. I think because quitting everything now as well and if our the boss and I am the boss of this company if our the boss I would say look. Don't don't take any chances Known necessary travel. We're flying Leeson are flying saint. I listened for An event on Thursday at Worldwide Technology. One of our sponsors. We're doing a meet up at Tr- The train wreck saloon Tomorrow Night Trainwreck in Saint Louis. Oh yes they are. Alex is on the panel. Forgot Mary Jo. Foley Alexander on the panel. We'll be talking about the tech and thought I the panel will be broadcast will a video of it and send it to your send you a vhs tape but In the in the meanwhile you have to be a wwe customer to attend. The event live So I'm hoping that will cut back really actually a just opened it up They just opened it up to advanced tells you so if you are not sick and if you are willing to greet Leo at Elbow I'll do elbow bumps opposed the football helmet but I but also we are looking at And I think it's prudent to look at work at home. options We are announcing. Now that we're going to close the studio for for a foreseeable future a number of employees of expressed concern about Studio guests so I apologize if you had tickets to come see any of the shows but we're going to turn that off at least until the coast is clear so I apologize but Again this is. This is something you do for employees. I'm not actually personally concerned if I die. So what but it would be terrible on but you know phone calls. Keep coming in but So I know actually the Johnny Carson Joke is when you die phone calls taper off but you keep growing doug to so. I wish I hadn't said that rapidly turning into the Nevermind hero fiddling. Companies are companies canceling though I mean salesforce has cancelled a lot of big cat scale and I think no travel get if you have employees. It's a hard thing to say. No no you gotta go do this. This is your job. It's very hard thing to say. Unfortunately a lot of people don't have sick time. They don't have sick leave. See people coming to work. That's worse so we've already told our employees and we're looking at ways we can do most of these shows via skype Somebody would have to be patient zero and come in and run the board. Sorry but no I. We're we're looking at things but at least for a timing. I do WANNA mention We're going to. We're going to turn off studio visitors From for the next whatever I don't know. How long is this going to go on? I don't know but it's a but isn't that a terrible situation is terrible. Sign of how. These problems tend to mound up that we've created at least in the United States. We've create a situation in which the people who earn the least are always the people who were the frontlines who are in contact with people. Also the people who are not being paid so little. They can't afford to take one of their sick days also. They're being paid so little that they can't afford health insurance so that good health insurance so they can't. They're not going to be treated for this sort of stuff. And so when we when when the when when the bees in a million years and replaced us at the dominant species decides to do the paleontology and figure out what doomed to humans. It could possibly be that all this fight about a minimum wage perhaps shortsighted in the human brain capacity outside. America's very weird when you're a kid watching TV and you hear like socialism and liberalism being used as like insults when it's like the political parties tire rest of the world. Yeah I know so well. We'll www seagoing FA. It's been a vase get classes. We haven't we haven't heard of it Google. That's three months off. Google yeah Google has already been announced in already. Been ticketed but The apple has not yet Announced WC as usual so they can still sort of wouldn't even be calling an off right. Which is yeah exactly. Yeah I mean I think that this sounds like a joke and maybe halfway it is but I really think that this situation is going to. It's going to be like delete. It's going to be like deleting the phone Jack The for the headphone Jack from telephones of from from phones. Because it's a whole bunch of these companies are going to do it and realize that. Wow We got away with it. There's a lot of complaints about having these conferences. Just simply absolutely just just a a virtual audience worldwide and not having it at a physical location anymore but we got by and maybe we try it again next year and the people who complain are going to be complaining less and less and less and then they realized that. Why are we putting together while we building like a temporary theme park that lasts only three or four days once a year when it seems as though we can do this a lot more efficiently and have much greater penetration if we simply make sure that they say that no there is no audience for anybody anywhere this is always going to be a virtual thing and and the only reason we do at once a year is because it's so hard to do physically if if we were doing it if if we decided that we were going to do a studio and put it together and and and run those kinds of things and put the same effort into it that we put into a physical and Event and the same budget that we put physical event. You gotta realize like an event one of those big events in Mosconi that covers all of the halls and takes over you know that's a fifteen hundred dollar investment in one for one for one week The if we put all of that energy into something online we do it every week. Every month would wouldn't people meeting face to face what those conferences really are. All about. It's not the products is not the information it's meeting face to face isn't it? It is the way we have done. Networking in the past doesn't need to be the only way. When I was a was a training organization in the early two thousands. We had two thousand members in forty countries. No one saw each other in person and they still feel connected. They built whole companies together without ever meeting each other. So it's not that it's just that you have to do different things to get people to you know it it's a different kind of networking You can't it can't be casual Or as casual and it's not something we know but I think that there's a lot of opportunities to To do that and I think there's a lot of downward pressure on large events in general there's Terrorist THREATS PANDEMICS. There's carbon footprint. There's all these things that are you know that. That are pushing against having large conferences. Yeah well I wonder what the future holds their GDP. The game developers conference called off. And this could be one of those moments you know. Do you think though I think honestly they won't be they call them off because the big tent pole Companies aren't going or do they call them off because they genuinely worried. Regulation is saying you can't have large groups in some countries over one thousand some countries over four thousand five thousand. They've closed the Liuw. You can't go see them only in Paris because France you have a gathering auto show and I think I think this is hard for people to move around the planet now this year. It's the people are thinking about it. I think next year if if the virus comes back up next winter I think you're going to have a seismic shift in how people do Get togethers and that's where we're really going to see kind of an expansion there. The you know we when In in I don't know if I talked about this before on the show but we had an issue where HD CAM had an Arctic Deck. And tell everything on. Tv was recorded and when the earthquake was to replicate for the SR deck there was one in La and one in Japan in once a year they moved to Japan. Calibrate it and while it was there was a big. Japanese earthquake and it killed it. Killed Sony's ability to replicate us our tapes and I funded like half a little studio selling my tapes for a thousand dollars each because everyone was desperate. They couldn't record their shows and that was the end. A tape like like that was like literally within within a year. There was no more tape like everyone went to solid state and so the the question is always when you have this like shock mixed with You know is are the tools out there to actually do it and I would argue that. The tools may not be there to actually do a really good Large-scale online event. There's a lot of pieces of them. Someone could piece them together. But they're not just hire Alex. I've done a couple. So but but but the But overall I think that right now it's still something someone has to piece together and I think that there's some real opportunities for for people to Put together the tools to create great great. Online apple did have its shareholders meeting on Wednesday Tim Cook Addressed Corona Virus. Said it was a quote challenge when he's talking about it Han Hi which you know. Foxconn which makes the IPHONE says. We're going to reopen at the end of March. But I think there's a lot of big like maybe or who knows That conceivably have some problem with the iphone the iphone nine or the iphone. Se to or whatever you WANNA call it. The IPHONE SE successor which supposedly will be announced this month. They also say they've reopened thirty of their forty two stores. In China suppliers and mass assembly partners are slowly coming back up to speed and some analysts have said the fallout could spill into the quarter ending in June. That's Mark Gherman Reporting and the Bloomberg that all conditional on what I think people thought a little while ago. Which is that. It was getting better in China but I see that the numbers are going back up so The Diagnostics Change. They went from like Kinda SORTA WE NOTE. And now they're doing genome level detection and it's much more accurate and yeah we're GONNA accurately and the number went up then and it's continuing to go up and so In other words it's not. It's not going away So Cook said Annual revenue from wearables air pods and Apple. Watch comp- compares with that. I don't know why you would say this. But he did with Co compares with that of Mary International Plus Visa Comparison. Yeah of course. That's what I think when I that's what I use as a metric apple report ten billion dollars in fiscal first quarter revenue for its wearables So it's ten billion quarter. I guess is forty billion. Bad Business Cook said for the first time apple will open its online store in India this year with the first retail stores opening in two thousand twenty one so you can buy online this year and Can actually walk into a store in India in two thousand twenty one. He also talked about the company's rejection of the government's request to unlock phones in the attack. At the Pensacola Naval Air Station. Don't think he said we have something. We're not giving. Don't think we have something that we're not giving other words we've given them everything that we have Apple won't create a back door to break into its devices their hearts. That's an that's an interesting way of putting it. Don't think we have something we're not giving we're not holding out on the government of course apple's building a new door but that's what an apples goal is to give is to have less and less right. We we only want to give them what we can give them. And that's why End To end encryption and things like that are important. Presumably think renee. You've you're the one who explain this to me. Apple can give my cloud backups including nightclub. Backups things like what's APP and other encrypted messaging I see that's that's encrypted but apple has the key so they apparently are giving that to. Yeah that's the hard part is like apple. There's certain things that apple believes in the best interest of the customer if they can help them in case the customer gets locked out themselves but the minute they do that those things then become subject to subpoena so apple has kind of carefully parse through. Everything they think is. Sacrosanct has better if the customer loses it than anyone else ever gets access to it and the things where they think that. It's it's safer for the customer to keep it even if it means somebody else could theoretically get access to it and they keep. There's those things have changed. Slightly changed a lot actually over time. That will keep changing over time. But it's sad that we have to make those sorts of choose between customers safety and customer security all the time you know what apple you know who can't get apple iphones. Bad Guys Ryan Johnson. The director of knives out in an interview said Apple Lettuce do product placement. If it's a villain I was in a movie a movie where that ten years ago. I mean that's rising new star wars from me to take the rest of the movies from me as well. It wasn't the case in twenty four that the bad guys all had android phones and the good guys all head on windows and MAC windows. Oh that's what it was but that was is that was a bad track. Bad guys drove. Chevy's really twenty four so if a guy was driving. Chevy you knew he was a bad Guy Yup and then they had faked computers. They had faked Microsoft computers long before service surface using Microsoft logos in the back of their computers. Nobody makes that computer. So this is the wild world of product placement is apple paying nine on TV plus because on. Tv PLUS EVERYBODY HAS APPLE PRODUCTS THERE. No bad guys on TV. Plus that's wrong with it. Shades of Gray. It's only raise the bad guy on TV. Plus it was the bad guy. Even Steve Carell was he a bad guy. He had an iphone. They were all the heroes of their own stories. Leo That's right as we all are. That's all it does product placement makes for weird situations one of the weirdest things about About Pontiac Indiana in parks and recreation. It was the one city in the entire world where everybody was using a windows phone. It was the most amazing thing. That's that's the worst movie those those giant phones that no one really uses. And there's a certain shot you can see. There's a there's a shot that you see and you go. Oh they paid for that You know like like it was immediately when they pick up the phone go. I gotta check something and they like you see them like typing on it. It's always it's always like a Samsung or something like that. You're like they paid for. They paid for. It was so bad is that they would not only do the placement they would. They would like tell you about the product in the product place. Where like my new windows phone? I can easily search for context to catch the bad guy. That's got even like superfast shift. Let's get the other driver if you look at. If you look at like. Let's get it started by black-eyed peas the the I think they're using to Sheba owner or something but it was so clear I was like date probably paid for the whole video for this for this question. Did I didn't read the interview. Did Ryan Johnson say? That apple paid them for the good guys. You WanNa you WANNA use it in the if you WanNa do apple placement. They don't pay. They will give you equipment. They don't pay for it over the phone. I give a bad guy the cover the logo you have to yeah family used to you have to no no no. You can't have any product you see a commercial media. Product can't use a logo we we. That's why Greek everything right. It's a commercial. You don't want to have a commercial if you're selling the movements greeting agree. King is Turned into Greek. No it's funny so we Greek. A lot of things like a regular broadcast you. You grab onto a soda bottle or a water bottle or whatever and you use a pen literally connect things. Yeah so that yeah connected out you either. Take off the logo or you. A lot of I mean so thank you I. I'm watching a show. Actually a movie and I see a brand in the movie. They had to get permission for those clear everything. That's in the movie. Yeah there's some there's a whole team that just sits there and clears have. We reached all the brands in here. We haven't showtime. We need a Greek. All the brands appleton. GimMe this phone. It's for this kind of this. This is a great news right in the news. You're giving you're giving it away. Also also it's also it's about leverage realized that any company who realizes that if there's if there's a trailer for a four hundred million dollars blockbuster and an apple an apple iphone is being used as a trigger device on a on a weapon up. I'm saying let's let's let's use that. As an example they can basically say hi. We're going to stop this. We'RE GONNA file injunctions to stop your four hundred million dollar movie with its three hundred billion dollar marketing budget from being released or would you like to cover up that logo digitally in post or research trademark on an interesting. I didn't know that the US military if you WANNA do a movie they they have all kinds of rules about like you. WanNa shoot off of a carrier they want. I understand that but I'm saying that trespassing on government government property that's different but but but there's but there's always releases if you're using something we worry about all the time like we're hiding logos and when we're doing productions for commercial Media products like. If you're doing something. Free on youtube or a podcast. I don't think we've ever had to worry about that really but but on large Any anything that is being sold or uses advertising so is usually something we have to test so that's interesting because in other words if it's not product placement after Greek it so there may be incentive not merely to get the free phones but just so I don't have to make everything looks so funky to have these phones onset. Get Apple to give it to me then I can use them. It's yeah they don't have to pay me but at least it's where you have a hundred million dollars a square one hundred million dollar movie. The one could afford to buy ten iphones. But that's not the issue if you look at like aliens have you watch. Tv show areas. You'll always have little circle that was stuck on the almost the same color as the as the laptop and just on the back. Ns because they didn't get the approval. And here I am eating Tim. Tam's all the time on the show. They could take are are they approved are they? Are they cleared no? I didn't clear the Tim. Tam Neither Greek nor cleared them. Watching your shows when in the you know ten years ago or whatever were It'd be sort of a production. Tv show but there would be random people intimate and they'd have their hat logo would be blurt out or their t shirt logo would be blurred out So there yeah. There's sometimes or the t shirt says something horrible on an logo explore so okay. We're going down the rabbit hole. I got another question on the radio show. People are always asking when they call in. I had a real problem with this computer. Can I say the name and say of course I wanNA know what name typically should? I not do that typically on a news or News News. I you know or vice stuff like that. That's not usually an issue. It's it's when you're selling tickets to God that it becomes selling tickets are using his. Advertising is usually coverage and there's whole sides of the you know like someone who does production like you look at James Bond. James Bond is driving that car company. No they paid a lot of money for that. They paid a lot of money for him to drive or the wristwatch wearing all of that stuff. That's all and so like James Bond is a perfect example of. I think they pay for a huge chunk of the movie is a big deal in Dr Martin's and started driving or afford James Bond. Visit drive a Ford you did. It was in It was in Casino Royale I think when he ran in the car or something like that I remember seeing. Would you try this Mustang? It was like I saw it. I was like W I think was. W How's the weather a lot of AMC cars and like you only live twice or something in the winter. Whichever one where he was partnered up with James James by doing crappy backseat of AMC Jane Fonda the final shot. You know what I mean. Oh my God Wow I'm learning a lot here. Yeah I didn't know you did feature film production I Yeah it's a little thing I did on the side once twice. A couple of somebody said Alex Lindsay could not possibly worked on the empire strikes back he would have been eight. I did not work on the empire strikes. You did Princess Leia ship for episode one one. Which is the fourth movie worth? Clean Rommedahl Alex thank. You was the queen's ship Queen Dollars Not Prince Basically Even I'm not that is basically a shiny Fifty s styling of seventy one without fans home without the fans. Yeah bothered me. Every time I saw it I was like it doesn't have. The full is a blackbird. My once I tried to. It did look like a blackbird. Shiny blackbird is. I didn't even when I was modeling. The previous one. I I called I. I contact the PR for Lockheed. And I said hey how about you guys have your engineers up here. I'll give you a tour of the ranch down. No no come down and visit the skunkworks as they were like. This is a top secret. Said so is this facility. And she goes. We worked for the United States government. I'm like we worked for George Data. She sent me a great. She sent me a Great Lakes Document and drawings of extra drawings of seventy one so that I could build the model. It's this stealth fighter well. It wasn't stealth by then it was. It was near retirement. Whatever that is Erin Space Museum? They have one. They have a couple of them there. There's one of the aerospace museums early in the Pima Air Force Museum had one earliest had one. And there's one in Florida Thanks to chat room. I have a list of all the James Bond vehicles in every James Bond movie In Ford Motor Company. There was yeah okay. Octopussy was Alpha Mayo. Quantum of Solace Specter owned radio casino royale. Amc The man with the Golden Gun. No wonder I didn't see that movie. Matador Oh my God moon raker. He was driving a concord or GD Jeep Cherokee and kill sees car. That's a good vehicle. There's the Aston Martin's that I remember from the Real James Bond car Owen Sky Fall. They came back. They brought it back. Wow Yeah they're doing a lot of nostalgia stuff latest bonds and Audi and some of the more recent. Expect me to talk on. Expect you to die all right. There see see when he's on the clip. How did you find that so fast? Because I'm is that Dr no no. This is our casino randomly driving a Ford Ford rental. Yeah it's kind of embarrassing here. Giving me here no no. You can't go full screen but you know you actually can show this as long as you don't go full Oh we can't. Karston is is now the algorithm. The Algorithm won't see that you know that right is looking at me. Very men are just an algorithm just an algorithm karston machine. Oh the SL. Seventy one is not a fighter. It was a stealth bomber This is a this is called the SR seventy one. The fastest plane ever that will start. Was it no no? It's not even close but it was the sneaky EST plane ever in some in some ways some ways. It's a spy plane. Sorry SS for spy for fighter for bomber. 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Scared me so don't don't worry. I made sure that. This The Seltzer water is safe to go. That brand I don't if I'm a good guy or a bad guy so you know little little gaffer tape assault rhymes with the iphone. That's the question are using android phone. Actually I'm using a palm. Thanks to a new licensing agreement that the Dollar Review Ken Choosy Geeks. Choose POM POM. Pre has turned turned everything. Now I think we did the Krona Virus. Okay moving along. Did you see Patrick wardle's presentation at our as a Patrick who is a former NSA hacker? We've mentioned many times. He's also a really good utility programmer. for For Max He works at Jamf. He's there I- Os Mac Os. Enterprise Manage Manager Security Researcher at the IRS and enterprise management firm JAMF former sponsored by the way He says he if you're if you're a bad guy you know. Cool take take take advanced nation. Malware designed for the MAC and repurpose it. They are incredibly well. Funded by the way. This was in his talk re purposed malware dark side of recycling. They are incredibly well funded. Well resourced very motivated hacker groups in three letter agencies. That are creating amazing. Mauer that's fully featured also fully tested. So if you're a hacker why not let these groups create malware and repurpose it for your own mission. So he jerks. I think he's okay. He's not he's not really telling people how to hack he's just pointing out. You know the issue here is that this stuff gets out in the while. He took four pieces of Mac. Malware that has been that have been used in in the wild over the purse for past several years and repurpose them to report to command. Servers belonging to him from there ward had full control over the recycled malware. This feat allowed him to use well-developed fully featured applications to install his own malicious payloads. Staying obtained screen shots and other sensitive data. Obviously he's not telling you how to do this. He's just mentioning. This is an issue. Yeah and this is all I mean. That's most of the ransomware that we've seen are all based on our own. Nsa Yeah right not pets you the one of the worst and WanNa cry one of the worst Our worms was based on internal blew a windows exploit Stolen from the National Security Agency. Allwood is organized into families. And it's all about this. One was super super effective before they managed to find the the good people manage to find this one one weakness that could exploit to shut it down. So let's fix that weakness and released version two point. Oh yeah and it's also why a lot of times we don't retaliate for like Russian intervention stuff like that is because we'd have to give up you know show what we're what we can do so. I think if I'm going to draw moral from his talk is These nation states are creating malware. They are. It's impossible for them to keep a lid on it and by doing so. They're empowering all of the secure many of the security problems we're all suffering brain right now and it's not just Max. Obviously this is from Dan. Gooden's article in ice technical by the way let's give credit to Danny's one of the best security writers out there Wardell said the IDEAS. Let those with more time money and resources do all the hard work. Wow he used to work at the. Nsa that's the funny thing you knows you knows. There's a lot of really smart people making really good code. I think when someone saw the stuxnet data immediately we're like this is the United States because no one writes code like like. That's not there's nothing sloppy is Israel and the United States working in tandem and it's terrifying because what it can do is get into your USB system makes it almost seems. I figured out how to See like see if it's there but it's it's very hard to extract Reliable you pretty much. Just throw the machine away. Yeah there was. That story and the other depressing story was the vulnerability in Google's tighten security system that the researchers spent like six months getting them to fix and he's like your project zero deadline. What ninety days and you. Give me the runaround for six months. I use you not project Titan keys kind of for that reason project Titan keys I was always a little never. They're made in China. But I as anybody found anything with UBAD bad with because I have the new one that the five. Ci that has the I love it has a lightning port on one side and type C on the other. That's kind of Kurdi. Yeah but as I hope get your and your US P. Yeah you'll get US jacked. All over again can only make it harder. It's like washing your hands. New Report for Mingji Quo Let's give this a confidence. Rating apple is working on six. Count them six It's a half dozen six of one. Half dozen of the other m many led products including a new a new fourteen point one inch macbook pro and refreshed. I MAC pro. Many led is a screen technology. That I thought wasn't yet ready for primetime that's micro. Led the confusing micro led. Oh this is a little bigger. It's many Oh yeah. Thank you for clarifying many. Led is out and differences micro led is a direct view product with micro led's that you can mix and match to make a screen of any arbitrary size. Many led is about the back light only giving a small tiles and telling us to mix and match so that it won't look like it's a billion dollars allocation so the the mini led is a very very small. I think very very small reverend in blue. Led's back lights and more discreet back leading zone. So there's less like the detrimental effects with led is that you have a lot of back like glare minimize that by having different zones. Yeah yeah so that would be that would make sense right as many led. I think it's in widespread production. We saw lot of mini. Led TV's CBS It's just announced CD. Technologies a new form of backlight basically So that would make sense if apple's GonNa make new products that they would use that in their screens. Yes Oh he's supposed to be well. The rumor has it that that's what they were using the PROTAS play X. Dr But it turned out there was just using L L with really small discrete not not known but just really yeah well. It was mostly the zone day. But they're rumors that apple has been investing in both this and micro. Led for a long time and it it makes sense it will be the next displayed technology. All Ed is a wonderful but incredibly floor. A flawed technology that apple and every other company has to work super. Hard to mitigate like I was watching some of the videos with the new galaxy s twenty. Which has the best led display on the market and when people are shifting Refresh rates the white point literally changes like. Just it's just th all. It makes it so hard that everybody is desperate to find something that is as easy as led lcd but that gives you the contrast ratio in dynamic range and everything else that makes it so good. And maybe they're getting they're actually the buried the lead because the thing that's most interesting in this note is the fourteen point one inch macbook pro right. Now there's thirteen's and sixteens and the old fittings Fourteen is a sweet spot. I think that's a nice size. Same size blessed Basil. Just like the fifteen sixteen thirteen with a smaller vessel. So you'd get fourteen inches. Which is I think a perfect thirteen cents a little too small for just a little too big I think fourteen. Goldilocks goldilocks point. I want an eighteen with no just like you want the seventeen inch macbook. But I but I don't want you to make it smaller. I want you to just fill out that way and that would be. Do I have to say I love my seventeen inch laptop Brennan because it really is a nice It's too big the reasons my breakfast computer system make daft around. Just plop it down at the breakfast nook and that's it lives there but it's really nice it's really and it's five years old A system seventy six but that size is nice like you're using most. What's what's what's the case against having a USB lightning based I'm sorry a USB SPEC- based external external Screens and something. That is about the size and form of an IPAD but isn't going to be a slow as using mirroring on an IPAD Will Give you extra extra real estate on your desktop. Even if you can't necessarily have the big big sprain screen so have your laptop plus a USB screen yeah. I've always wondered why that hasn't really taken off their. You can get them but they're not. They're very once you I I I used to. I had a couple of months to to try out and every time like I'd set up with like a second display next to me. There'd be so many people there at the starbucks or the Panetta's I what is that it's like. It's like a tiny tiny tiny little second monitors like. What is this like? It's something that you can get. Probably dial up Alibaba for like a hundred and ten bucks for even heard about it. I've done that It's like display port over you SPEC-. I'm sorry. That's the word I was looking for. Yeah I'm definitely I've I've I've had. Us Yeah you regular. Uspa is fast enough to get a second screen. We have screens that are USB just USB USB screens there will bring that over touchscreens. Father Robert was the one who showed us this At first and John Uses all the time this is An A seuss. Usb. It's type C right no it's regular USB USB too. But it's a nice and he uses that with his laptop. It's almost like they took the little basis laptop right and and there it is and it's not it wasn't expensive. How much hundred twenty bucks and so you get the value of a second screen. I think it's fast enough but you're right. If you had type C better that'll be. You could have a nice screen if you want. Lots of people make those. You're right I know. I wonder why we don't see more of those and does have a stand is that you do the cover. It has a cover like type pad cover for the IPAD but it turns into a stand. So that's a nice and they make some of them with the really only worked with PC's really well That are touchscreen so you. Can you know it's it's the old kind of capacity it's touchscreen so it's not great but? I'm not sure I'd want that. One HUNDRED HUNDRED WORDS USEFUL. Really if you want to have something where you're what we would use it for us connected to a computer where we want to control we put interface. That's big buttons that you hit things while you're working here in a suit. This is the most recent I think is the MVP since agree nine. Yeah and it does auto rotation see there it is in your Holiday Inn Room. You See. That's why I use the IPAD and it's I don't use do it anymore I use. What did they? What does Apple Call it? The ghost display SIDECAR talker. I should remember which is kind of like what Alex was describing as a touchscreen interface. That's your second screen. That's kind of what the IPAD Sidecar does now for MAC MAC book an IPAD as you kind of have that second screen. That's touch touch sensitive for certain programs that it's kind of NEAT and works really well not needed most of the time but for sometimes it's Kinda a seuss does make a type C but it's a lot more expensive. It's like fifty bucks more for the type C and here's one with a built in battery. What would you want I? I would have to imagine that the reason a second screen for your laptop in a portable capacity isn't more popular is that it's it's just one extra thing that you have to unfold and fit on a table whereas if you have one seventeen inch laptop for example it's one screen. It's one takes up one spot on your desk or your your coffee table or whatever in even though. It's there the the portable screens like that are lightweight. And they're very thin they can just like slip into your backpack but once you actually set them up. You're taking up twice as much computer space on your on your tiny little coffee table. And that's probably why they're not that popular. They're intended to be portable but they don't really fit in a portable life plus the other having a seventeen inches. That if you if you were making the chassis itself bigger you have a bigger battery but we have a lot of situations. Where like Leo was saying where I have this big wonderful laptop but I don't actually take it out of the out of the office because it's it's it's too big and I mean this might pick of the week is kind of related to this conversation that bought a new bag and part of it was how I if I'm buying this bag which is really buy it for life type of bag. I have to commit to never buying a laptop that is going to be going used for trips. That's going to be above a certain size. I was very confident about that. Because the they're making screens bigger by making a vessel smaller. Like Rene said but there is A. I have a friend who was using the the that that prison Cafeteria PLATE SIZED MAC book will wasn't seventeen inch was it ninety S. I wanted it was it was and I had a and he was. He was still using it. When I was reviewing the original Mac book nothing and I had to like. Get a picture of the macbook. Nothing like the smallest map ever made on top of this and it looks like it. Looks like an ipad not talking about like ipad pro. It looked it was just like so it looks like something other Mac. Powerbook would eat. I snack and so I I love the fact that you having this kind of power inside something. That doesn't require you to take something that looks like. I'm taking a piece of big luggage with me. Just be just to go to starbucks to get a couple of robbers emailed on. I do have to say since I do carry an IPAD with along with my macbook. Sidecar is kind of the best both worlds. I'm not nothing extra Ryan and I will say I use the seven inch for years and just loved it and and on a plane if I if I get into the Exit row opened a feed. You saw what happened. Cassidy. Well the Barstool sports host Heart factor news. Here's his tweet Delta small note for this gesture box. Maybe have a little warning sign or some way to prevent my laptop from being destroyed when the person in front of me reclines literally. When I open the laptop. The way I got it is I. I look at the seat and I look at where it's going to catch again. I I suppose it gets hit. It's going to go down. I've had this happen. I've I've I've I crushed a seventeen seventeen inch T. died because of this because the seat reclines with the trade table does not exactly catches it if it catches the lucky I Yang. I didn't think out from under as it was going back had I not I would've loved. That was the end of my seventeen inch. Was this. This is why those those three hundred sixty degree Screen just are such a godsend. Every time I fly I rank of that problem myself but it means that you can actually hold it the other way so that if someone does recline although he backed there's just no way for it to catch it it it. It decreases the overall depth of the user experience. And if I know them going to have to work on the plane I will just take a portable. Bluetooth keyboard with me rechargeable with me and it really is far far more comfortable. I liked your reaction though Laurie because that was exactly what I what I react. I look at this approach Mac book pro. I think it's the new sixteen squashed and the broken and I just can't imagine how sad I would be watching that happen like that. Like I would probably just like a a a remake. Haiti make I had a airbag hit one of my My titanium was attaining was airbag and made a great stunt computer so true. Yeah at least you got something because you're GonNa have fun with you. Could bring this tablet prepared Alex more information on this and if an airbag what happened tickets thrown into the face of somebody knows me. So what happens is you're not dead to verify DR driving. I was in the passenger seat preparing a presentation And the guy that was driving just bumped the person in front of not very hard and the airbag popped out. It didn't evidently pushed it up against my chest and and screen But otherwise it looked fine which made it much more useful like a month later when I had to speak in front of people and I I looked like I accidentally tripped in through fifteen feet on stage which I felt was necessary because it was a morning seminar morning session for two and a half hours on the second day is the worst time to get a session so I bought probably going to break Alex. You may want to run to the phone. I think we have a payphone right outside because Google just announced that they are canceling Google. Show At least the in person avert part of Google. I O due to concerns. This is the email from Google due to concerns about the krona virus in accordance with health guidance from the CDC who and other health authorities. We've decided to cancel the physical rule. I O event at the shoreline amphitheatre those who purchase tickets will be fully refunded by March thirteenth while registered guests. This year will automatically be able to purchase. I owe twenty twenty one pass so I went to the Google. I O front page and it doesn't say that yet but this according to nine five google email has been sent out to attendees of Google or other people reporting to high wonder how long before apple makes says something as you point out. They don't need to say anything because they haven't sold tickets so and they haven't even announced it as a virtual event like they would probably just announced virtual event from start to finish this also. This also puts a lot of exactly. Also this put prudent but this puts a lot of pressure on apple to simply say well. Google canceled Microsoft. Cancel facebook canceled. But you decided that it was safe to go ahead okay. Let's see how well and if and if there's blowback from that they're gonNA have a blowback that overshadow anything. They announced in June so it. It almost seems like if you had don't buy non-refundable tickets to see if you if you're in the habit of saying it's usually a couple of weeks It's usually at the same time I'm usually there for two weeks anyway. All buy tickets in advance yet. Don't buy tickets in advance the thing well I mean. A lot of people bought their tickets. Last that became the whole trick is dub dub was so expensive. People bought a year early because they were fairly confident. What would happen but you know like this to me. Hurts us in some ways more than apple or Google because they can they apple can fill Steve Jobs theater with employees and have an incredibly rows won't be the same but I have an incredibly rousing? Product reveal event. Almost like a regular keynote they can fedex out product. They can do all those things but it was just so much more efficient for them to briefing after briefing especially with international press because either they have to bring international press to Cupertino or they have to go on a road show and both of those are very resource-intensive but at least if you're in Cupertino and everybody's there you can talk to all like last year. Wdc We didn't get to see in your privacy features. We talk all the privacy engineers. It was a huge difference in the quality and depth of of the information. Now he got back and you shared all information on the show and total where software developers not just the sessions because like there are people who even though sessions almost real time. Now it's amazing. Compared to waiting for the labs labs when you go in and get design critiques. And but you get to talk to the guy who made the framework and he says Oh. You're getting this bug because of this and you're like you save me a year and Google does. I mean the thing is is that that can be done online. Google does Office hours or whatever where they bring in the teams and they livestream for their developers and they talk through. You're talking to guys and they're showing you things and here's how to take your theory. You could do all you can you? Can you can do it for a lot. More people at the same time than having around just a matter of building you know. It's matter of exercising tools. That are already there and applying them to this we. It's not. There's an opportunity to start to stop doing something that's crazy and do something. Is that just a hands on area? Like what you'd have to mail out so many more products than you'd have to just put on a stand everybody's milling around though. I mean honestly I I agree with you on the briefings. I agree with you and all that but the hands on I mean you get twenty. You get the hands on video immediately. Yeah no I understand. It's good for you to but but do you really get I? Guess you you've now seen it I don't know how that is. Is it worth getting corona virus but the You can also localizing until we really shut everything down. You can also localize a lot of these things where you're doing an event where you might be doing in all the major cities and then you. Microsoft people done that. They had satellite events because Montreal's never major city. So we've done a bunch of events because we've had clients that are worried about carbon footprint you know so we've done ones across four four to six cities that are all tied together in the back end and the speakers are coming from every different city. That people are on every different city. They're talking to each other and it works. No one had to travel and again. This wasn't a pandemic issue. This was a climate issue. Yeah I WANNA go to Montreal Bagel West could well. Let's do it. Yeah I really do now that I know that you're practically Miramonte the food. The Food and Food Montreal's I'm using. I love forty five minutes from PLATTSBURGH PLATTSBURGH NEW YORK. Yeah wow home of the United States Cheifs Federation. What does it what what it was it as it? Afghan. I forget what we went to when you were here. Alex but it was. It was really good so good what I think it was Afghan. Yes I love it. I love food yeah. We're all going to Montreal tour. Get Sick and Montreal Kenya. I don't think there's too much now. Oh come on ally now. I'm just concerned about being. Let back into the country. Do you guys have to go to future in Britain? Do you have to go to Britain every once in a while so far we've only had to go to New York. They have a New York office to actually. I wouldn't even want to go there in the winter though I own a pretty pretty cool place in the winter. I think I like it better in the winter than the summer. I'm sure it's prettier in the winter than the summer. But it's not devastating humidity and heat in the winter. Yeah Forget Alex. Laura didn't move to the West Coast. 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So apple has had a a rule for more than a year that. If you're a Chinese game developer you have to have a license from the Chinese government for apple puts you in the APP store but they haven't been enforcing it. Apparently according to some publication called I'm more The apple scalawags those scalawags of at a time. All Apple tells Chinese game developers. No you know what you gotta get a license. I mean I can't believe this. The there's like the law in China right the ministration of Press and publication of China. That was just a law that they had in place in that apple hadn't been enforcing that for while you think apple kind of knowingly didn't enforce it like L. Let's see if they notice could be could be maybe it's maybe they were given a certain amount of time that they had to to kind of build the the the system in place to make sure that they're checking it now. They've that deadline has hit now. They have to do it even if they were going to. Put PUTTING OFF. You know making the switch. The Chinese government really lock staffing. They just passed a new law. That says you can't say anything that would in any way to scare. People run a virus or disparage the regime. They're not the only government they're the only one doing it fairly openly. They got a law. F- There was a report today about not being able to prep military troops or something because they didn't want people to actually know that we were taking it. Seriously things gasping it's too bad They do They did block plague inc. But yeah but in the rest of the world. Everybody's downloading it the publishers of this great game which has been around for it seems like almost a decade a long time place to say this is just a came and it's not modeling the spread of any actual viruses. You'RE NOT GONNA learn anything from this. Nevertheless I notice people are downloading it. They're also Watching contagion that's like the number one now came out five or six years ago Because we want to learn who was a good movie it. Yeah you know. It wasn't a great movie but apparently was science was good. Yeah it was. Yeah it was okay. It's good it's good to have. It's good to watch it home. It wasn't wanted to go out and see. There's often a trade off between good science entertaining. Fiction interesting considered the science fiction and the scary part is always like Zombie. Plague or bowl lies like the ones that are very visually dynamic but real-life was always like now we're the flu. We're fine tainted view. Remember but it was. That's where I learned what are not meant right right exactly. Yeah full also also made the point that you will never know how this absolute horrific pandemic started because it's a complex interaction between human species on human species. And it's if we knew how to purdue Frederick we could prevent anything from happening and you know the whole. Don't touch your face wash your hands by the way I know safety. Things were in their exactly as I was starting to. Stress started touching my face. I want somebody to make an IPHONE APP that Honk set you when you put it in your apple. Watch and Apple. Watch apple uses the location of your wear. Your wrist is or just you put the camera. No I do not do it. I don't know why he couldn't do do do. I know I know that. That's that's hard not to touch your face I was. I was thinking about running marriage before the show. And I'm out but I definitely have to do something like after the show to drop off something for Fedex and I'm like do I really want to have to wash my hands when I get back. Get back here before the show and not to be able to touch my face for another hour or or do I want to just do all those errands at once and I have to do all the handwashing and all the other non non face touching at once. It's it's an abrogation man We last week we had the story That apple is going to that. The Supreme Court rejected. Apple's appeal and apple is going to have to pay a patent troll Almost half a billion dollars apple has to pay half billion dollars to somebody else man. That's other people. If you have one billion dollars pretty soon everybody comes after you apple will be paying half a billion and a lawsuit claiming it didn't understand him. I'm not happy about this claiming I love when they take a picture that has to do with the they they take a picture that exudes something that has nothing to do with the article like he wasn't there working at this other picture congress. They do it all the time. It's actually this. Is Tim. Standing behind the president when he was announcing that he just opened this factory. Texas running for Congress is having. Tim Cook. Doesn't want you to buy an iphone. Tim Cook has got billions of dollars. What is he doing with a Tim? Cook says that he has an Adam's apple Tim This is A class action lawsuit. Yes so it'd be a lot of people who'd be paying saying apple claimed Eric that claimed apple capped performance on older iphones. Well it did. We know that there's not been a secret about that. It's really the intent that reason why in dispute The lawsuit said because they want him to force people to Upgrade Apple. Said is because your crappy old battery is GonNa crash the phone if you try to route. If it came out he processed a man would call Brown. I believe apple did that intentionally nevertheless The lawsuit is being settled. It was disclosed on Friday. Twenty five dollars per iphone and a minimum of three million dollars although it still needs to be approved by a judge the lawyers get ninety million. And if you're a named member of the class action you get like thousand thousand bucks in the rest of US getting chick apple in all these class actions. Just remember that. It's really just lawyers doing lawyer things. Ninety million doesn't it's not helping anything and it's it's one point two five days of apple revenue. Yeah so the one thing. I hope we get from this though. Is Apple eventually did like I think did the right thing because I think it's better for people's iphones not to shut down unintentionally? But they didn't they didn't do it the right way. They didn't fully explain what was happening and they did later. Once all this Brouhaha came out they gave you know a page that explain what their battery health was and the ability to opt out in between brownouts if they really wanted to and that all of those things if they had just done that up front would have obviated that any of these and I defeat. Conspiracy theories is also super discounted the cost of Of Battery placements which was bad for every roof which was great. Everybody twenty nine dollars. Eleven million people last year two thousand eighteen. I guess took advantage of that. That's twice the normal or ten times. The reality is that apple does like the people say like Apple Force you to buy a new iphone and apple actual plan is way more fiendish than that. They don't want you to buy another iphone. They want you to be so happy with your iphone that you won't even consider a Samsung or anything else when you go to buy but then your old iphone will still be good enough that you'll give it to like a family member or sell it or trade it in so apple can resell it thereby increasing the overall number of iphones in the market because if you remember the earnings report they don't even talk about. How many fold anymore it talk about the absolute platform size now and any iphone that times out of being still useful anymore it gets dropped from the platforms is which is not what they want. So they want those things to keep going secondary and tertiary hands if you had an iphone six seven s e You have to apply and then you could get as much as twenty five dollars depending. It's the same thing we saw this success though. I think they have that wrong. Success he said this is business insider so they may have dropped something there So you'll get a note you'll get some in the mail and you could fill it out or maybe you'll have to go to a form online. I got one for Quebec. We had the similar law student. Quebec and I was getting three bucks five bucks in the mail or you filled it out. No I just said Hey. You're a resident Quebec. And we're getting. We're you're part of this. I wish they would just send us a coupon to the apple store. Give me ten bucks. What what can you buy for five dollars at the apple store? Alex especially? You can't count on something that you were going to buy anyway. It's a one hundred twenty fifth of an Alex here. Here's one hundred twenty fifth of and Alex. I will find something by yourself. Something cavs inmates have some bins and an apple store. It'd probably be ten dollars from the six ninety five. I'm a little disturbed by this and we talked about it on. Iowa's Today and Mike and I were kind of disheartened This is a report by the Australian Strategic Policy Institute WE -GARS for sale I don't know who the Australian Strategic Policy Institute is so I don't know the facts on this but they say and we know this that the Muslim minority in China the weaker minority has been incarcerated by the millions in concentration camps. The report says that many of them are then sent To get reeducated and then brought to two factories under conditions quote that strongly suggest forced labor factories that are in the supply chain of at least eighty three well known global brands including Apple. Bmw GAP WA WAY. Nike Samsung Sony and Volkswagen. They eighty thousand acres. Were transferred out of their homes in Xinjiang to work in factories between two thousand seventeen and twenty nineteen some sent directly from detention camps I obviously Tim Cook is GonNa make that face again. When he sees this they did. I think Apple's done a lot to improve. Conditions for workers in their primary assembly plants the Foxconn plants and the peg of trump plants. But I these are mostly going to factories that are suppliers to apple suppliers of L. L. led screens or the camera modules. And things like that. Your thoughts Sandy Honey it's I don't think apple is to blame. I don't think most of the companies are being named are to blame It's part of how complicated the supply chain is. And if you're going to be have the if you're going to have the hiring power in the commercial power company like like Samsung like apple like like while way like anybody you have to take responsibility for the fact that sometimes your suppliers going to do things that you don't approve of and possibly if they have if they have to do some more work part of that is going to have to be W- if we are negotiating for the best. We can possibly have in terms of bringing Unicorn down. Bring things in on the timeline that we demand and not on what they think they can. They can extra provide. What are these contractors going to do? In order to make sure that they can produce this component the price we want and and at the time frame that we want it. Labor is such a complicated thing and there's so many knock on effects that we are going to figure out For the next ten twenty years it really is like climate change like a social version of climate change. We don't know that we've fundamentally screwed up a thing that makes the global society work until we see all these weaknesses happens. This is the first The first crack in that in that scenario we are seeing slave labor. Will again the the we we are no doubt about it? It is slave labor being used to produce components that are going into an iphone and again not with the knowledge and not with the consent of Apple. They'RE GONNA they're gonNA probably. Pbb beating a few beating if you managers about this but nonetheless. That's what happens when you drive costs little as low as possible. The people who are going to get it right in the neck are usually the people doing the assembly. The people who are being paid an hourly wage S. P. I reached out to the eighty three brands by the way all the big brands are in here including many clothing and sneaker manufacturers cars You know all kinds of manufacturers and And asked about the suppliers some of the companies For Instance Adidas Bosch Panasonic said and. I bet you apple is in this boat to we. Don't have any direct contractual relationships with those suppliers. Those suppliers make products that are then sent to other factories that we do have a relationship with. Yeah and and I think that's been part of the problem with the supply chain. Is You know the batteries A lot of these parts are made in in questionable circumstances. But if you don't deal directly with those factories then you don't have any leverage such a complicated. It's very calm. I mean the thing is it would be like. I just know that you know I've worked with a bunch of these companies. I have to sign all kinds of you know if I'm working for a large corporation. I have to sign all kinds of agreements forced labor. I know I know but but but the thing is is when we're hiring freelancers. I have to do background checks on folks and and and you have you. There's all these stacks but it's like at some point. I don't know what they did. You know like you know. I don't know what the person that they bought stuff from being used in the you know this is like this is not like someone directly. Give something what happens so I I do have to say this is what happens when you say and I think he right Andy. The price pressure maybe drove them to it. We'RE GONNA manufacturing China If they were being manufactured in the US with US made parts it would be done in. Prisons I may be off your license plate right and of course you're not suggesting and equivalency there but you're you are right that occurred in the the work that we outsource to prisons in the United States is in this stuff maybe not sitting right next to them but it's in the same room. Yeah now there's a lot of stuff that's made in prisons. I I would. I would say though Alex kind of drifting off of what you were talking about that you know the difficulty of kind of you can't you can't know what every part is being made for your phone for example in this case but I think that corporations do have the ability to put pressure on all the way down the supply chain of especially after having the knowledge so before they had the knowledge of some something for some forced labor happening down Wednesday. Learn that I think this report within a year none of these guys are going to be using anything that's connected to that so if they can't there's well there's another big issue there in which this is the Chinese government that are rounding up Muslims putting them into camps that they are claiming to be employment retraining camps but are actually not only it's it's re education reeducation camps and not only that he being then moved and forced into this labor situation but also they are treated like third or fourth class citizens within that Labor community? Where even then they're being monitored. They are being forbidden from practicing their religion. Their being sussman. They're being suspected. This is not A. It's it's it really does raise once again. That that consistent drumbeat of what is going to be the cost of dealing with countries that treat their own people in deplorable ways. And there's never an easy answer a lot of these things. Well Yeah Yeah. But but again we're not rounding up people putting the WHO are certain religion plenty of them in camps and then force it if it away from their families Canadians what's happening with Canada? And the natives in with America and the borders and I honestly don't know how far away we are from anything anymore terribly terribly in human. What we're doing to each other to learn screw. You sent me this link from the state of California since nineteen forty seven inmates at folsom state prison manufactured. California's license plates for the Department of motor vehicles. Originally the factory was located in a surplus airplane hangar near the original granite quarry. So now we know what else. The inmates are doing in one thousand nine hundred fifty three. The entire operation was dismantled and reassembled in the new factory located in the upper yard. The first license plates were made of steel today license plates are manufactured from Aluminium with reflective sheeting over the years license plates. Have undergone many changes Blah Blah Blah through the license plates prisoners? Doing all kinds owns folks. Don't want to conflate the two but I feel like we would have a much better moral platform with outraged if we weren't being just so terrible in our own way but my my my big my big issue is is more with the shift towards privately owned prisons as opposed. It's one thing it's one thing when you have federal and state owned prisons where a lot of the part of a lot of the reasons why you have prisoners stamping license plates because it gives them something to do other than getting into severe forms of mischief gives them a basically gives them a part of a rehabilitation training. It's when you have a private prison that is trying to be run for profit when the corporation that owns that prison sees that the prisoners as a Labor unit that then can be rented out and then you have them lobbying for certain get tough on crime incentives to make sure that those private prisons get filled with people who can do that contracted work. That's when you start to be like Oh for F. Sake come on. This is what put what country. What country are we do we have do? We have a right to judge anybody on anything. If if the it's it's one thing if it's a if a government is Is saying that a group has ideologically unsound for inclusion into the regular workforce And be trusted of our society. But it's not. It's not as bad. But it's certainly in the same sort of category when you basically say that corporations are allowed to withdraw human beings from the general population to be able to provide cheap labor at pay. It's anyway I'm about to get on tear so I'm going to stop. Yeah I got you and ESPN. That's why I voted today. That's all we get to do Thirteen point four Beta his out. Nine to five Mac digging through the code Looks like they said they found evidence at apple might be working on an Internet recovery for IOS. Does this mean the end of the D. F? The End Leo are just the EDF on the Cloud D. F. You D- I'm GONNA. I'm GONNA sound like a broken record on this. But there was a huge rumor that Google was going to make a one of the pixel phone with no ports and they ended up doing it because they could not get remote execution one hundred percent stable and it has to be We've had a quote unquote Portland devices. Like the the Apple. Watch and the the apple. Tv. Don't have user accessible points you can break them open and dig round inside and get a USB port but they're just not user accessible and you have to take them to an apple store and they opened up seals port and they plug into it but it would make everyone's lives much easier whether we keep the port or not if you didn't have to go 'cause like my. I don't think most of my family knows how to connect to itunes or finder now anymore as they. They're so used to living in the age of cloud. It would make it so much easier that if any update went wrong instead of breaking device and having to go find a way to plug it in you could just do an internet recovery. It would just be one more step towards making these things really truly pc free. That's why when I did a Ask The tech guy on the DFW. I sent people to your video at. I'm more DOT COM. Because timing is so critical. Yeah you know that you got to watch a video while you're pressing a button and doing the button in a dance. She wanted to be. Because you don't want it to happen by accident Well let's see my my issue is that how many times have you had a problem with the device And you go you go into you do a google search for. How do I solve this problem? And then you'll find a really beautifully produced support document on apple or Google or whatever that explains here's how you do the reset and then wait for it to blink four times that for Prince. Four TIMES BLINKS AGAIN. It'll turn orange and go into recovery mode but there's nothing of that document says okay. Let's say hypothetically that I do all that and the light never does turn orange. Are you gonNa tell me exactly what to do? Then that and then there's no documentation for that and The two I've I've said this time and time again. Because this really is a core belief for me if you're gonNA take away a feature from From a device you have to give the consumer something in return. You can't just do it because you're designers are offended but there's a hole in this thing you can't do it because oh well it's inconvenient to have to design around having this This other mechanical structure inside the device. I would be okay with it. I'm okay with it on the Apple. Watch for obviously. You can't have a thirty pin port on on this device. It's it's just crazy. I'm okay with it on the Apple. Tv because it really isn't a device. Where do anything but simply plug it in plug it into a TV and watch television and it's also cost but you know two hundred dollars one hundred fifty dollars when you're when you're when you're giving me eight when I'm giving you eight hundred dollars for a phone. I really want to make sure that anything that I want to do with the phone. I don't care about the majority of people. Do I WanNa make sure that what my possibilities aren't being limited by the fact that you made an arbitrary. Excuse me you made is selfish decision as a designer and decided that well people don't use ports anyway we're going to simply delete it. I'll be with you. I won't even notice. It's gone until that first time where I'm totally totally screwed. But I would have had an out if I had an actual place. I can plug in a cable on this device which is exactly where this Os Recovery is. It's sort of like the first step in into that world and I actually. I don't think it's a good idea for apple to us to make a Portland phone. I'm on your side with Andy but I think this evidence and the Beta that there may be some kind of cloud based recovery. This to me is an example of apple testing the waters whether or not this is something that could implement because I don't think they will get rid of the ports until they're sure that they can allow people at home to access Recovery for their phone or ordeal for their phone through the cloud. And it's seamless and smooth and it works really well because that is so important to us before you know before making the steps no. I agree completely. The other issues are always going to be just glossing over the fact that there are a lot of people that don't have easy access to an apple store either because there just simply isn't one air by four because they don't have a car they can get into and drive to a mall But the but the other thing is that Wireless I think this is a this is a line that is I keep stealing from Rene and I usually credit but because it's a cold left a lot of things I already knew but failed to put into a simple phrase. That wireless charging does not come for free that you're going to have to deal with the fact that it's going to it causes heat. It causes stress on the battery. It's not typically as fast It's not as it's not as easy to take a last night charged my phone and once again. I've had this phone for years but I was shocked to find out that I was. I was at like zero at like. You're about to go go south. This phone is about to go home to Jesus temporarily until Until if you don't plug it in and looked at it again fifteen minutes later and it was up to sixty percent and like my God. I love fast charging and I don't WanNA trade away the ability to fast charger. Basically just to. By the time I finished the by the time I not that I ordered at starbucks has gotten even slightly warmer. My phone is one hundred percent and I go on with my life again. Show me give me a reason why you remove that port and it can't be. We didn't like the we didn't like the the slot in there. We didn't like the fact that we can't make we couldn't put this component here because we have put in a lightning porter or USB port. That's just my philosophy. My hope is that one of the things that go ahead I was going to. My my feeling is that mechanical things are still failure. Points and hardware companies hate that but if they can just mitigated a little bit so for example like a water resistance is fine but if you plug immediately in after it's wet. You should never do that. That causes shorts or it causes corrosion and also people again. I don't think any of my family knows how to plug into itunes. And that becomes a whole stress thing and they've they've gotta find more and thank goodness. Lord is such a great job with all that stuff they can find it and they can do it but if they don't have to if if the port is an option for them even if it reduces usage by fifty percent wear and tear by fifty percent. That's huge savings. It means those ports will last longer. The phones last longer. They'll be less errors. They can fast charge if they want to. But they have wireless if they need it. That's my favorite. So far is because they didn't take away anything they just gave us the convenience of wireless charging so like one day. I'm assuming everything will be gone. Even the phone will just be virtual whatever in our brains but until then like just let us keep those things for as long as possible so that we get the convenience and can work our way off of the The speed consider the fact that some people don't have computers in their house anymore. I I've said this before. My mom is an example of that. She doesn't own a computer. She has an iphone and IPAD. But she can't go into recovery mode if she needs to do something to either ever devised she has to take it into an apple store so this is also At you know helping people who have kind of transitioned out of computers entirely and the better. Our mobile devices are the more people aren't going to have full computers in their home. Excellent point with Mac. That was one of the best things ever did with the Mac you could. You can install the operating system from the Internet Zappia. Yeah and you can. Also he ran that scene. And that's where the that's where the frog absolutely has to leap out of the boiling water. I I'm kind of a I. I will still say that I think that phone with the headphone Jack is better than one without one. But I accept that especially three years later. it's no. No one has died because of this as far as but because they're no longer being strangled in their sleep because they went to fell asleep and then they twisted or how about the people who are trying to see emergency. Cpr But like they're on the phone till nine one one but then they get disconnected because a Bluetooth. But if they had okay. There's a problem that we're all have to us now. Battery powered Air Pods are had phones that then ended up in the landfill. Because you can't replace the battery in the airports. I don't know if that's a net gain. Yeah I have phones work forever. It's I. I have a lot of difficulty with the fact that these are. This is not isolated to To Apple two hundred and fifty dollars two hundred seventy five dollars loop. I was here butts everywhere. I have a big problem with personally. Spending two hundred fifty to seventy five dollars on on a device that has an absolute date on it. Yeah until until somebody figures out how to how to swap out these batteries and given how precisely these things are put together as well as how so tariff. These batteries are going to be. That's not going to be the case. we've gotta find. You gotta be creative in thinking about people who can't afford it. That's fine but for me. That is such a hard no that I can't imagine that's not a big deal for everybody else. We just have to figure out how to create art. Art Art work with it. I know I had a monitor monitor. That wasn't working so I gave it to my son. He turned it into a lamp. Perfect you know. He came back and gave it to my wife for birthday. It was like he gave her a lab. Where did you get the lamp? And he's like I made it from the Monitor little earlier today. I fired up by EERO APP during IOS today. And Lo and behold your. Eero now works with Apple Home Kit. That's actually a big deal. Used to be if you wanted to put your iot devices if you wanted to secure the network from them because they often become a gateway for bad guys into your network. He had used the Steve Gibson Three router system which is impracticable to say the least especially since now. You can't reach your teeth devices so you can't you can't use them This is a really good solution. Isolating Home Kit. Iot devices on your Eero Network. I I imagine apple's going to extend this to other networks at some point but this is something now available right now in your Eero. Leo I have to ask you a question about this especially because you were talking with Mike about it. And he's also a home kit expert on a smartphone expert. What about the that? You're supposed to Reset all of your smart device. Go back into the okay read. That's the only reason that we talked about this last week. Didn't we did repeating the story? I am because nope no okay. Somebody else crazy. Obviously you have to re talking about it. Because it was rumored to move forward and then and now now it has you have to. Do you have to reset it? Is that what Apple Sing reset the devices? I think they're saying they recommend it. And it's it's I I haven't tried it yet because I don't want to find out that I have to go reset every single one of my home kit. Or what's your what it does is it makes a firewall basically around every device and then opens justice ports that are necessary for that device to either communicate to the outside world. Although you can say if there's no reason for a device to connect to the outside world you can't your local network only but the firewalls great. Because it says this port only this device only and prevents. I mean. I'm going to have to say it might be unnecessary because anything. That's home. Kit is probably has over the air updates and it's probably pretty secure it by itself. It's the weird off brand Chinese cameras. I'm more worried about and they're not home kit but still this is a this is exactly the in my opinion. The right thing to do and going forward it'll just be when you get a new home kit device you just attitude network right so if you put it off like me. Then you're yeah it does it. It says Do you have three three levels of security restrict to home which means devices can interact with home kit through your apple devices. No access to the Internet at all. The default option is automatic which allows limited Internet access to the home kit and connection quote connections recommended by its manufacturer and then no restriction. It's just like it is already which is I think I would set my phasers to definitely restrict a home logging from external and right and killing people some devices though. I need to get the time from time server and things like that so you can't necessarily do that. I think this is a good thing to do anything. I just saw that. It is available now when Mike You Mentioned. I fired up my hero APP and there it is so if you've got Niro and I presume other home kit routers will do the same thing at some point Pressures on now right. Let's take a break and then shall we come back to our picks of the week all right. We'll do that. I just want to reiterate what we said earlier the WW T- panel is now open to all so. Please don't come a few sick. But all without sniffles know sniffles allowed but if you go to W. W. T. dot com slash twit dash live dash podcast Then we will let you in and you can join our live broadcast. Alex Lindsay's on the panel Mary Jo Foley is on the panel. 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I think we're going to see more of I don't know if it's it's all there yet but it's worth checking out it's called network Or the network and what these guys do is they have live streams and they've dropped new products and they do these little these little videos doing work for them. What I'm not doing work okay. So the but it's it's more of an interesting Weird stuff weird stuff And again what? So what? So is it the person who's making this device? No no this is a this is you can just you can buy. You can literally ECOMMERCE. What's the live stream it? Well it's not. It's it's hard to see on the home shopping network with we're going to see more of this. This is more of a less. You should go look at it. I mean you should use it. It's more of you go. Look at it There sixty thousand livestream being done to sell products in China. Not here but the point is that is that this is the there's a this is a glimpse of the future of I think that that there is a where we're going to see me always been saying this brand's should do their own. Revised cast their own streams their own videos. And what they do is. They merged it of buying ads on our fine network. Still by on your network to talk about the their launch products you know like you know that you and so they pay you to the product by so so tomorrow there's going to be a G. Shock Twenty fifth anniversary so they'll show on stream at five. Pm On there that you can watch on your on your phone and then you can but the purchasing is right in the phone sources more for people who like to spend money no people like me who do production you just want to pay attention to this market because I think this market is going to be a really next big thing. I really interesting market. That's going to Pick up speed so this is less of a recommendation of. Oh you should go. You know use this all the time and go buy stuff because it could get expensive It's more of a just worth researching this market. Because I think it's going to keep growing the youngs you think. The young kids the utes. That's who this is for. Think so feels like it is. Doesn't it like it's are you a ute? John necessarily pay you well enough to is the first one I've seen. This is the first one that I've seen with purchasing like really well put you know. Oh I really want this. What is this? What is this freaky? That's it's like a skeletal you'll get to know on six run English collectibles so a birthday present for the birthday present so Again I I. I'm just interested in it from a perspective of young younger people right Yeah Yeah Yeah and you're right. It might be the future. Young people have no taste again on their think about that. All it could be done to begin with. Why would they watch a stream? That's okay but but it might. We watched the apple streams. Don't we we watch the news because we're interested in those products or if if black magic is releasing a new camera? People would love to have a livestream where someone's like. Let's show you the camera. Let's talk about the experts talking about now. That's not what this is doing necessarily right now. But I think that when people were launched neurotic there's a lot of people who are interested in that product. And right now you know. I was I configuring A clear calm device and and it was like there's no documentation for the best parts of it. You know people under thirty go to Youtube immediately. If they have a question they don't read a manual of I go to YouTube. Everybody like I go to Youtube and then I you know it's it's not there. I'm like Oh man what's so. Here's Joan Hill plus Adidas and a stream and show off his sneaks. I'm sorry what do they call them? They don't call them sneakers just trying to keep. I'm just trying to keep up with the kids. That's only saying just may the fourth a very special very special stream on May the fourth there. You Go I still can't see that bloody handprint on the stormtrooper held that. Not Think Wilson from cast what I thought. That was a bad choice in the first or was it on purpose. Woo tried to lure. Thome eggs into the franchise. Would-be why interlocking out. By BINDRA Day Laura Gill pick of the week. What am I buying this week Anything except for maybe some food so I just and I'm I'm I know there's going to be a lot of people who said this has been around forever. You're so behind the Times but I just discovered yes I know I know I know but I just discovered it so bingeing with Fabisch. Who's You I am? I'm so new to this that I'm not sure what his history is in the culinary world. I recognize those tattoos could do. My son watches watches. Okay yeah so it. It's it's really just nicely put together Youtube Channel and it has recipes for For for for things for foods but what is so cool to me as that. He uses foods that are referenced or eaten in other movies. There's sandwich from birds of prey right and the one that caught my eye was Ramdan from Paris. I wanted to make this one watching the movie she saying. Get some make me Rahm done. And what is that I want it? Yes any not only does he make it the with the in this particular episode of. He makes it with the store bought prepackaged stuff he also makes his own version from scratch six. I WANNA make the real deal. Yeah so it's it's really cool and I've only just started getting into watching his his stuff but I've just been really impressed with delicious food making techniques and I don't Cook at home or anything I'd just like to watch videos of people cooking food. How come he can play parasite on his Youtube Channel? And I can't even play his youtube channel playing Peres. What's the deal man? He paid the money. Think he paid parasite no no four million views in one month less than a month in two weeks yeah. He's a big channel on Beijing with Babouche Romden from parasite four million views. Lots of people making Ramadan menam. I'm not making anything with a key. Ingredient called CHAPA getty. Good this is a good pick. I'm GONNA try this. This looks good. I don't know why he doesn't get the sponsored. A killer sponsor spot right there. Oh well I'm just no one's paid yet but he's got he's working on it. I'm sure I'm sure he's working. There's a big Mac. I don't know what a big Mac Donald's this parasite truffles Bob's burgers. Sorry he's explaining the juxtaposition of cheap food with really fancy engages on one hundred fifty dollars truffles on it. Three dollar big Mac. Right yes delicious. Ruined the big Mac All right cool. Do you ever see his face or you. Just see as you do. It usually what happens at the very end of the episode? He leans down and takes a bite of the food and then you kind of see him leaning down in eating so you do get to see his face but almost always it's from the chest douses. Henry's hero this is who Henry my son wants to be and like on Brooklyn nine. You Save a few of the Rama noodles crunchy and you put them on the top afterwards. A really great is that. Is that a special thing though? That's a joke from Brooklyn nine. When character got sent to prison and he made his fame in prison by recommending that they keep some dried Rama noodles to crush on top and at first they were angry. That an interloper with dairy. Tell them how to eat their. Rahman then they tried it and it was delicious and he got his prison so good courses lunchtime. But I'm just saying this looks so good. Yeah yeah it does. And this is the one with the prepackaged stuff so if you host the toward the end and you see him. He makes the noodles from scratch. He makes the The Broth in ten minutes It looks pretty good. Looks exactly like the one in Paris it by the way right? Yeah Rene Ritchie your pick of the week so I. I'll say if you like if you like him. There's also a channel called pickup lines With an M. that's a Canadian Vegan nutritionist living in the Netherlands who does very similar but very healthy trendy sort of good foods. You can check that out too but my pick is an APP. Called Tot from a little company called the ICON. Filers wondering if anybody would pick this. Maybe you've heard of Craig and Berry and get may here. I don't know you know they've been around for their young. Some some kid named Gruber. Yeah well he tested it but it's it's really interesting. It's not a full on notes happen. It's not meant to be and it's not a clipboard. Multilevel clipboard manager. It's something that just lets you record seven. Bits of random text you WANNA record. It's a single street interface. You've got different colors to identify the different tabs. You Swipe between them and just put down any texts that you want to save something. That's not important to you enough to be a note that you want to keep you know. Virtually forever but something that you don't want to forget about either. It's like a little scratch pad and the the business model is so interesting. The MAC APP is absolutely free. You can download it and you can run it on your Mac for free but if not the companion. Ios APP which runs on Iphone and IPAD is twenty bucks well for an Iowa. Five bucks a note. Total totally is but again like the MAC APP. Which is what they really want to make is free and they weren't you know the the IOS APP is going to take them a lot more to support it and it wasn't really their first in line use case but they said if anybody actually wants it's available it's just. It's twenty bucks no subscription. No up sell no anything else. Just a one time twenty bucks and you can have your notes lickety-split sink everywhere expect. Let's see how the people react to that when they complain so hard that they want to pay for subscriptions. Well here you go. I ain't GonNa buy this prediction. No yes you know what? I would suggest. This would be a good programming exercise. You could write this weekend. You'd learn a little bit. You'd have it just the way you wanted. It seems like a trivial APP. The concept is trivial. Everything is the execution like it's it's Berry Amiga and the icon factories ability to get a thing but like a beautiful thing that you're paying for. Yeah it's pretty pretty I was you know I meant to talk about this because I thought this is the strangest thing ever. What is it? It's literally four different notes. That's it I think. Seventy seven okay. Yeah yes seven one. Two three four five six seven I it. So it's seven notes like you already have apple notes which is unlimited. You already could use Google for free. It's let's see these don't just grow like you don't write something down and they never looked at it again. Now you have three thousand things and see. This is the benefit one is. If you want to add something new you've gotta sacrifice something else. You never have more than seven pages. Okay Twenty Bucks. I always said I would pay cultured code so much more for an APP called thing that only let me have one thing semantics focus would use machine learning to subtly. Drop out the things that knows. I'm never going to do like just save me. The mental hassle of admitting defeat every day. Just like we need never does this. We're going to use a better about himself machine language and machine learning to to look at what you constantly say you're going to do and never do and then just quietly have disappeared but it can't it can't do a flash it just takes takes it out like you just you just put it in their day. It's just gone. So Alex. Glad Alex you've accidentally created a brilliant idea for a pro for productivity up. Where all of your projects are like Tamagotchi? That they need if they are going to pay attention to the way they die and you know better than all them footprints in the sand. But what happens what happens. Is that if you don't if you don't tend to them if you ignore them for a while they don't die. What what the APP does is an encrypted with an encryption key that you can't access until you donate fifty dollars to a charity that you've already designated i. I just think they disappear. And if you don't really look for them for a while then they die then they just this just this no I. I use apple notes. Yeah I my whole life is a curious how this could be. This could be whole range of intentionally Spartan APPs this. This is exactly the sort of APP that I love to support where it is definitely not going to become a name in culture anywhere. It is a a weird idea that a few people got so captivated by that they had to wish they had to build it into reality rather than just let it. Go back to the of ghosts and wins And it's the sort of APP where most people are going to be like but they're going to be a few people that Oh my God. This changed my life but not not a baby but certainly my first kitten after after your product. I definitely respect constrained resources. You know like I think that part of what I love about twitter is that it's an art via you know it is a. It's an true. I why the sonnet is a great poetic for tweets. Most of them are almost like there's like seventy nine character. Yeah they're they're always like in an and I 'cause I write them in there about three hundred and then I cut it down. I move things around and I- restate things and I get rid of my passive verbs and I do all the things that need to do to get to get down and I like that. I like I like that that that process so I get. I get the constraints but I just do so many notes per day so I go back and look at it. I wasn't GonNa make this a pick but I've been using something called notion. Are you familiar with notions? I love notion so this is the exact opposite of tot. This is kind of an endless notebook for anything that you want. What's cool about it? Is that any note can be shared. It can become a a webpage a public web. Page or a private webpage There's there's graphics there's images it uses. Markdown I think it's beautiful but it's completely free form fact it's a little challenging because at first you open it up and I don't know what does it do. I don't under- I felt like it was more like a development platform for personal productivity. Meaning that once you get if after four or five or six months of of developing this thing for your job or your needs you'd get something that is absolutely custom-tailored but out of the box it's going to be a bit of a Slob but when you when you see but I agree once you see what other people have done with it. You're like I WANNA make that slug. I want a Antionette go focused productivity. I have started using this a few weeks ago. And it's become my absolute number one. I just keep it running. It has an APP for IOS android. Mac Windows it's a web interface continue to show John It's got a web interface This is my Mac. Os Setup so. What's Nice about this? When I get a new machine I can Immediately Open the web. Because you know I I know memorize the password and I can set up the new machine With all of the commands and everything that I need I have to say this is incredibly useful. It could be you know when I went car shopping. I put all the things that I needed in a car and then once I mean this is. This is so easy to do. I don't know I'm really a fan. Now it's free for a thousand blocks here. I've put together my Kovic. Nineteen pages with instructions on how to wash your hands Prep for the corona virus. You could put web pages in here. he could put tweets. You could put maps I feel like it's This is the exact opposite of taught and I think it's actually insanely useful. So there we got two picks one for one for the minimalist one for the maximalist notion. Yes installed tot on my Mac just now and I immediately know that I'm going to be using it a lot. It's puts a menu bar icon for you. I love and I just need to sometimes just like oh I gotta remember to call somebody later to put that in there and you know maybe it's also something that I wanna kind of plan out what. I'm going to do for work for the next week but I don't need to open notes for. I just need to do something really quickly. Yeah it's going to be useful for me for sure. Just if for no other reason than it's got a menu bar icon that lets me just jump in and look at it really quickly so with notebook. Yeah Yeah Yeah see I like wicky wicky whereas you just keep on. Keep on going and keep. And it's not adobe frame acres pages Leo like there's some there's room in between both. Yeah no I agree and to documenting battleships. Yeah there's maximalist vs minimalist. That's the that's the idea here. So Yeah Andy. Nocco your pick of the week My pick is something that I've been looking for for about five years and specifically thinking hard about for the past four months before pulling the trigger because it was kind of Spendy for me But this is all right is the Philipson meaning bag. I've looking for years for years to get a bite for life type of like everyday. Carry sort of bag solving. It's better than the nylon bags that usually get. I wear out after two or three years But wouldn't be so open. This is made out of one hundred percent ox blood leather and just not being practical. It really took me a long time to find one. That had all the earmarks that I liked meeting built really really well also really really classy. Has A lifetime. Warranty are also lifetime repair for things that fall outside of the warranty but also fit everything that I need or I want this sort of everyday carry bag to be. I'm I'm talking about the the the carry on bag. You stick under your seat not the not the role away you put in fifty bucks so it's a little bit spendy but It's it's very very thick. The twelve like a canvas It's reinforced at the bottom. Really Nice Leather. For All the fittings of all if Allah fixtures really really nice like leather strap all the fixtures are real brass. They're not some sort of like weird cheap pot metal or something like that but what I really like about. It is that it might not. It also has a needed for me. It needs to have a carrying handle at the top so that if you're just grabbing something from from the concierge at the hotel or you need something just to fix it to the topic rollaway. it's not saying this is necessarily the best bag for everybody. This is just the best. But this had all the features I liked out of every previous bag that I've been using for the past five or six years. Just walk you through a few of them like I need to have like the I like. The kind of has what's called a weather. Weather flap on the top for a couple of reasons one of which being that often too if oftentimes but not always the the straps that hold it down. We'll have like a little bit of like Like a bulge here. So if you have an umbrella or tripod can stick it up there. The other nice thing about having the storm flap. Is that if you're in a casual situation? You could just leave. The flap open like did and keep growing growing into it and like spring is coming and so the addressing layers. So I'll have my jacket and the jacket you can simply you don't have to even stuff it inside the bag even just laid across this. Put the flap over it and then carry it around that way has to have a magazine flab at the back for first order retrievability usually of things like my ipad or things that I'm reading At really like to have these little pockets on the edges like one four. My water bottle usually the other one has my super high capacity. Recharging battery The other thing the other thing is kind of controversial firm number of people. I know I don't like bags. Have Lots and lots of dividers little pockets inside them because now in very I just don't have stuff that fits into those pockets specifically so what I prefer to do is just like sort my own gear a little bundles like this It's big enough to hold really any thirteen inch and maybe fourteen inch laptops. The only like this is my thirteen inch macbook that I usually keep in this kind of asleep One thing that's kind of a warning sign for certain people I like this. I should say It's actually has like sort of a team that makes the the top of it narrower. So if you have a larger laptop you might have to sort of put one in first and then the other end as opposed to sliding it all the way down. I like that because when you have the flap in it protects the contents from the rain and also protected from fingers. Just being able to jump in people people behind you on the subway and grab things But again a lot of people are going to want organization. That's fine I should it only has as far as a pockets go. It only has two but they are big pockets and if you WANNA know how big they are. It is actually big enough to carry. Not only because he is he having his pockets. Not only my my Sony disc man oh pocket also has eter. That's how they're not. They're not chintzy little pockets If you pull vinyl out of they're not gonNA have words you'll get you can fit. You can fit in Alpine here now so like I said it's not it's not cheap. It's three hundred fifty bucks a available colors and get a smaller version of this. If you're just using it with an IPAD and that costs a little bit less if you sign up for the newsletter you can get ten percent off immediately And that's what I that's. Why would I engage with? Their policy is once again if if anything ever goes wrong with it because of defect if they didn't close a stitch rather properly and something POPs off Senate. They'll fix it for free. If just wear and tear happens they will charge you for it. But they've been around for about one hundred years and they will. I like the idea of fifteen years from now having like patches on this thing and I've seen videos of people who've had them for ten years showing off after ten years they look very nice beaten and and positive I will get. I'll give one little warning though and this kind of I had to navigate this to three hundred fifty bucks. I tried to say that. I'm frugal rather than cheap. So this is why it took me four months after discovering this to really decide if this is absolutely going to be the thing that was going to work for me despite the fact that there is a thirty day return policy so you can faucets and resale will condition. You can buy check it out with your own stuff in your office and then send it back. You don't like it but now there is a weird weird and suspicious thing Filton if you if you're live in Seattle. They have a filter. Filton factory store where you can buy seconds really cheap. That's fine but if you look online if you go to Ebay you'll find lots of sellers that have the same bag for two hundred fifty dollars. And it's not as though and their brand new with tags they say and they say oh well it's not like a limited number. They only have to. They seem to have as much as you can possibly get and for the life of me cannot figure out any answer to how are they able to get an unlimited supply of these bags for one hundred very very famous bags for one hundred dollars off retail unless they were absolutely counterfeit And so that's and I'm pretty sure that they there are a lot of conflict bags over there. Because I've seen like online reviews. I said Oh. The the the the so-called brass handle broke off after about a month or the stitching came undone like almost immediately and also most suspiciously. This is why I was so cautious that it won't I can't get my thirteen inch macbook pro in here and it's like wait a minute. I act- I didn't actually buy it until I went to the Boston store locally pro in their maximum my fifteen fifteen inch macbook pro inside my goodness slip. Base works fine. That's my age and I thought it was. That's nice so a and again if this were packed to the absolute gills. I think I would have problems getting it out because once again Sort of like a lip Kind of would have to make Shimmy out but so I would say make sure you're buying directly from Filton Because that was the big warning sign with people. I was concerned that. Oh well gee if it doesn't fit my macbook pro. I don't always leave the house with a Mac book. It really is more about the IPAD. But that would be kind of a deal breaker. So that's why actually made a trip. I filled my backpack with all the stuff they would I would Even even potentially carry everyday carry bag and went and actually took to the store for a test fitting and fifth grade so I think that there are knockoffs. That are a little bit too small. Oh the old one last feature that really liked and again. These are things that I have. I have to abuse these things for a while before I realized is what like the bottom of this. The bottom of the bag is wider than the top. Which means that when you are in that mode of. I'M CHECK OUT OF THIS HOTEL. I need to get out of here to get the right to the airport and you're just stuffing things in your bag. The death of me is when I'm I'm using a conventional bag where it's the same with from bottom to top so I'll get nice and stuff stuff stuff but then I can't close the top because I've overstuffed it. The thing is all the stuff is at the bottom and the narrow part of the top you will almost always be able to flip it over and actually seal it up anyway. So I've had this for about a week now I've taken it out on a couple of different excursions really really like it is. It's it's the has the hallmark of any for me for any like major purchase. That I will definitely be worried on my guy. My really gonNA spend three hundred dollars on a bag and then like a first time actually use it. I completely forget about how much spent on it because it is. It's the right size. The right functions the right features and I think it looks. Damn Nice and and I'm of the age where I'm going to enjoy having like the same bag my Ford Prefect bag that I've been fantasizing about since I was born with thirteen years old if I were going to a stringer for the hitchhiker's guide to the galaxy. This is probably the bag that I'd have with me all the time. Should I have a bag Jones as yeah many people know? Oh and I've never heard of Filton before I've been looking at all their stuff man. This is gorgeous since eighteen ninety seven. Yeah and they have. They have backpacks they have. They have briefcases. I didn't some people are like. Oh I I want to zipper top that I could secure well. They do have briefcases and other bag's Zipper tops to them. I want something big enough. That could actually not only have by laptop but also have a couple of days worth of likes stuff for a trip. They have also a small double. They have lots and lots of different stuff. That's of that same thing. They have only three or four stores. nationwide others flagship store in New York. Whether instance. There's one in Boston teen cloth I believe. It's like fine Corinthian leather. That's the name that they came up with. Its eye briefcase. Yeah it's it's see the thing is a it's it's definitely stronger than nylon because my the fault of every bag that I've loved that I bought for like fifty or sixty bucks has always been after a couple of years. There will be something wearing through. There'll be a hole somewhere usually on the bottom of it And so hopefully my I've experienced with With bags made of this kind of material that I've seen invented shops. That are just like fifty sixty years old. This kind of heavy canvas tends to stand up and once again even if I do wear a hole in it they will send it back with a very very Sunday. Look at what it is. It's a tightly woven canvas duck saturated with a liquefied paraffin wax oil mixture under high heat and high pressure to protect against thorns. And briers I I'm not going to be dragging my laptop back through a lot of thorns briars but still yes. Oh moly Oh man. I'm GonNa just put this aside and tonight when I have free time I'm going to put on my jammies. Put a fire in the fireplace. I'm trying to look away 'cause glass of brandy and browse not making very quiet. I'm just look look my backpacks me to Messenger. But I've yet to find spin around and they present you with your bag of the day a giant. I have a lot of pockets and so going from one to another is surgery. There's like a lot but it's like a purse for a woman. It's a you. Don't want to merce immerse. This is my bag right now but it's not excavations enough to satisfy my needs but the this is why this is why put things into like little sub bag so that when. I do switch from this. I can just grab accurate here. All my cables and all my chargers for everything that. I'm likely to put in this bag out for one into the other. Andy have you can Texas. If you ever held any other Vilson Hilson tanks I have. I have looked upon bags. In the store with lust. I've had finally you know what and it was a beautiful lovely thing. I just for my. It was my shame. Shame Alex I picture Alex the briefcase from Ironman too. He just puts it down in the they go to livestream. Armor comes on. I know the problem the hinges hinges get you know the ground has the comes open part and then doesn't come all the way and then you're in front of the client you're like I worked in the Lab Ladies and gentlemen. This concludes the thrilling gripping edition of this week in McIntosh. Thank you everybody for being here. Well it was felt like a week. It really was only a couple hours. Alex Lindsay is now zero nine zero dot media his new company. And we're thrilled to a C. Got Gainfully employ. 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