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Hong Kong is ‘gaping hole’ in China’s national security, city's head says
"Has described the city as a gaping hole in China's national security and has promised to restore order after last year's pro democracy protests. Giving heard lit, giving her delayed and your policy statements. Carrie Lam described the demonstrations as the worst political challenge since returning to Chinese rule. Since he won king, Ill intentioned people influence by external forces have made use of the relatively complicated social and political situation in Hong Kong. Deliberately mislead the public about the relationship between the central government and Hong Kong and say all in the past year or so, Hong Kong has experienced the most severe political challenges since his return to the motherland. One of our urgent priorities is to restore Hong Kong, SNL's constitutional order and political system from chaos. The
Fresh update on "forced" discussed on Derek Hunter
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COVID-19 outbreak at LA Metro Detention Center
"Corrections officials were dealing with the Corona virus outbreak of the L, A metro detention center downtown. 219 inmates are infected with over 90. That's more than a third of the inmates detained at that facility. The outbreak forced officials to cancel all visitations of the jail capacity of the facility is 1000. Although there are about 550 inmates house there Right now, the detention center holds both male and female offenders who are either on trial or in pretrial status.
CDC considering shorter coronavirus quarantine recommendation
"House coronavirus Task force are now considering shortening the recommended length of covert quarantines. Not because of new research, but simply to get more people to follow the rules and stay home. If they're exposed
‘Hear Us Out’: Philadelphia Gym Owners Joining Forces To Push Back Against Latest Shutdown
"Dozens of Philadelphia area gym owners have come together to challenge the city's recent covert 19 restrictions that have shut their businesses through the end of the year. Okay. What abuse Community Affairs reporter Terry Greg? It tells us she hears from a gym owner who says that many are on the brink of shutting down for good. Jamie Sudden is co owner of James Fitness. She's part of the Philadelphia Fitness Coalition of Group of about 30 Fitness studio owners in the city. What is this done for your business? And what changes have you made? We had two studios and unfortunately we've come down to one because we had to shut it down. We've done changes. As far as we have masks mandated. We have social distancing in place. We take temperatures. We have even increased cleaning. From what we previously had. We have reduced capacity of our numbers, and we have zero transmission in our gyms. We have followed the rules that the city put in place and they are working. And we'd like to continue to be able to do that. Why did you form this coalition? We felt like we were left to our own devices from the city without any help. You know, Some people have rent deferment from landlords and some don't And so this is a really great way for us to come together to have a collective to figure out how we can work towards keeping everyone safe and keep our businesses open. The gym owners say their track 318,000 visits discovered 33 positive covert 19 cases and zero transmissions inside of there, Jim back to you. That's Kay. Whatever used Terry Greg, our community affairs reporter with Maura on what Jim's air dealing with right now. Trying to deal with this covert 19 outbreak
GSA designates Joe Biden "apparent winner," enabling official transition
"And so more than two weeks after the major networks declared Joe Biden, the winner of the presidential election, Emily Murphy finally did what she should have done back on November 7th when Biden's victory became apparent. Now. Emily Murphy is a heretofore unknown federal government employee who is the head of the General Services Administration. It is her job to sign off on Biden's win, which allows the presidential transition to officially begin. It permits current Trump Administration agency officials to coordinate with the incoming Biden team and provides millions of dollars in government funding for the transition. If you've listened to the Ron Owens report in recent weeks, you know I was not in Emily Murphy side when it came there doing her one big job. It doesn't seem that difficult aspect. She said she needed only to ascertain that Biden is the apparent winner of the election. And yet somehow she delayed it up until yesterday, forcing hundreds of people joining the new Biden administration to work without government paid assistance. Hmm. That sounds very trump here. I mean, seriously. Despite Biden's clear victory, she stalled in her letter, finally initiating the formal transition process. Murphy said she had not been pressured by the White House to delay the transition and did not make a decision out of fear or favoritism. She wrote, And I quote, please. No, I came to my decision independently based on the law and available fax. Yeah, of course she did. She's neutrals sort of. I mean, she was appointed by President Trump and unsuccessfully tried to be on his transition team in 2016. And every day she delayed making the obvious choice made it more difficult for Joe Biden to put his people in place and work towards a smooth transition to the new administration. In effect, she allowed the delay to possibly be used by enemies of the United States like Russia, who thrive on making countries chaotic. Bottom line. I don't believe her, but at least now her 15 minutes are up. As for Trump Well, he tweeted now that he's not conceding and plans to move full speed ahead with his various legal cases challenging what he calls the most corrupt election in American political history. So we continue to witness the torture. It's vindictive, classless strategy of the president, making his successor's job more difficult from day one. It's almost criminal. Will Rogers sure never met Donald Trump. I admit I'm still enjoying the pain look of Trump. It makes you wonder. Could he actually believe that he won, Huh? Come on, man. No, but the way he's not carrying himself might make future government officials and everyday bosses think twice before surrounding themselves with sick of fence. Is there any doubt that in speaking with foreign leaders who called him out of obligation, he did all he could to poison the water for Biden, his scorched earth way of handling defeat. Go down in history as the classic example of hubris and Pettiness. I'll be watching with great interest how true Republican senators in Congress members deal with him. Now they no longer will have the power to directly make their lives miserable. A few weeks ago, I was pretty convinced that Trump would keep the GOP in this corner for the next four years by offering daily critiques of anything Biden does. I hope the media would wake up and see how they've been consistently manipulated by Trump and punish him by not reporting every word he speaks. Now, though, you know last week or so I'm watching some of the Republican senators who repeated his Bs open up a bit. And veteran Watergate reporter called. Bernstein has now released a list of 21 Republican senators who in private, have repeatedly expressed extreme contempt for Trump and his fitness for office. Maybe by 2024. His own party might reject his bed for a rematch. Meanwhile, is the first round of Biden administration nominations a release. It's clear that by this choosing people who are indisputably X Spurs in their fields over bigger names and democratic politics. There'll be very little on the job training needed for senior members of Biden's White House, as CNN reported. The simple act of hiring people qualify for their jobs is in itself a rejection of the Trump model, which installed donors, right wing ideologues and inexperienced allies into positions of power in some instances, The express purpose of undermining the institutions they were meant to lead, so we'll find ourselves with a very competent yet a times boring new president and a faceless cabinet. After all we've been through these last four years. Doesn't that sound
No Taste for Zero Waste
"Hello and welcome back to the dear prudence show once again and as always. I am your host dear prudence also known as daniel m lavery with me in the studio this week. Is sarah hoagie or based in toronto. Canada sarah welcome to the show off. Thanks it's been a while it's been a few years. It's been a long time and last time weirdly. I didn't get to see your face in this time i do. Even though both times we were not in the same room. Yeah i mean it's it's really nice. I'm looking into your eyes. it's crazy. I it feels very you. I feel very close to you. I'm admiring eyebrows. Saw their powerful. I will not stop. I will praise your eyebrows for the entire. Oh my god yeah. Thank you so much. I love your shirt. Thank you for having such create eyebrows. Let's tell everyone how to live their lives and Just generally how to do better. Yeah i'm good at that. I'm good at time people what to do. You often do that to me via text. And i've always really enjoyed it so i'm just looking forward that other people get to have a chance to experience for themselves today. Would you read our first letter. Please alright subjects clean plate club dear. Prudence was raised in a zero waste environment. Where everything was composted recycled she now trying to implement policy in our own home. I try to waste as little as possible but occasionally i don't like something. She cooks or get fully. She gets extremely upset. When i was food i started secretly throwing it away. I feel like a child. When i do this and i keeping secrets. I also hate feeling pressure to eat food. I don't like or that. I'm not hungry for. I don't want to treat our future children this way. I want them to feel comfortable staying there. Done my wife. Also several pounds overweight. And i think a large part of this is due to her inability to just walk away from food. She's mentioned a desire to get more in shape but doesn't seem to draw the connection between her clean plate habits and her weight challenges at the same time. I don't want children to become food. Obsessed or worried about their weight. The seems like a fraud situation angles. What should i do agree. That seems fraught. There is a lot here. There's like maybe nine different questions. I the one thing. I wanted to start with although i realize it's not the most important issue is a while back. I was no longer going to be taking questions where people would write in and described their spouse x number of pounds overweight. Because people i have noticed. Have a real fondness forcing exactly how many pounds they think their spouses overweight. And they've always got it like ooh. I know within two pounds what the number is yet. It's really weird to see several pounds overweight because like that's very hard to notice. Yeah that's like probably pretty well within a range and human beings exists in rain. I don't know like to me. It feels like if you happen to think she should weigh three pounds less than you know what i mean. It feels very rachel mcadams and mean girls. Like i wanna lose three pounds. It's very specific. Yeah so i would just say. Don't worry about that one. Let that one go one solution to not liking what. Your wife cooks and feeling like a child is cooking yourself. I don't that's that's insane from this that this person's wife is always cooking because that was the vibe. I got the. I was like she cooks. I don't yeah. I mean it does seem like it's i mean if you don't like what someone is cooking you can easily just not eat or cook yourself or even at the very least i'll make my own food. Yeah you do that. And i'll do this kind of thing. But i i do think it is just a bit odd like how much control the someone have over you throwing away food or not you can. You can just do it right. I mean the thing was. She gets really upset when i waste food which i get. You don't want your wife to feel extremely upset. But she's also not gonna die if she gets upset so if you were to say i love you so much. I am not hungry for this anymore. Either put it in the fridge and eat it the next day leftovers. That's one common solution. There's so many solutions. Let her be upset and declined to secretly. Throw it to the dog later. That's that's not gonna work for you. I feel like maybe they. They don't understand the concept of leftovers perhaps but also another thing you can do is i. Don't know maybe ask her to make less food. I mean like it's like it's like meals have to come in one portion. That's the only portion you can ever make for. Whatever meal like. they're adaptable. But i do think there are so much more here because it's it does seem like you know maybe there is some type of eating habit thing that is a part of it which also i don't think is someone's problem to solve for someone else And i don't think having a fight about wasting food is the way to support someone who might have some sort of food issues or right and i think i wanna have patients for both of these people because it seems a little clear to me that they both have some food issues. Which i mean. Who doesn't also but i don't wanna say that is just like we all have food issues so these are just yours and you can't do anything about it so much as you know. It seems like the letter writer feels a certain degree of if someone else's upset with you about food you have to fix it
Is the Oxford vaccine worse than the other ones?
"And we had some more exciting vaccine related news in the last couple of days. Norman the astrazeneca vaccine from oxford university has released results saying that. It's an average of seventeen point four percent effective which is less than what we were hearing about the other. Vaccines that have recently been announcing interim results from fifa and madonna. So is the oxford vaccine. Like the bad one or is it just the way they've crunched the numbers looking a bit different to the way pfizer and medina have crunched. The numbers and sean writes in. So we're getting the dot t. One thanks you'll have to force me to take that one advisor moderna. I'll be first in line stuff. The for'de astrazeneca one who trust the uk. Now anyway. thanks. I'm sean sean. Next time you say the question just tell us what you mean you a. You don't be the by bush. So here's the story of esther vaccine report. So this is the problem releasing by pressure lease and what they did. This press release was really naughty. They gave an average of seventy percent but it was an average over two separate trials. You can't do that. You can average two separate trials with different objectives different doses and so on and say was was seventy percent and you can only assume that what we're trying to hide wars that the food does trial. Which was the latte. The larger of the true was actually quite disappointing. Compared to the one thousand nine hundred ninety five percent results that pfizer moderna have been reporting for the amarnath vaccine where they get the average coming up. A bit is actually. What at first sight seems counterintuitive. So you try which the big what which is to fool does is and you've got a smaller trial where they did a half those to begin with and then a fool doors late about a month later and what the got with that one was ninety percent. Say to the to the other two. That's right but effective remember. This was affective in preventing covid nineteen disease. We still don't know whether prevents infection now said well. Why would a lure does one work well. It's actually quite conceivable that the lord does one is the better way of giving it because the vaccine works spy using a chimpanzee cold virus which has been inactivated sort of doesn't caused disease to carry the genetic message inside the cell for the sale to produce despite protein. That's going to generate an immune response in the body that will have memory to fight the infection. So that's how it does the chimpanzee vars whilst it doesn't develop disease in the person our immune system does recognize this virus and january. antibodies toured. So what can happen. Is that you give. The food does in the first. Does the body a gets. Antibodies to the chimpanzee vars. And then when you give the secon- does it doesn't work because your body's fighting off the victor really. That's right the train of the truck the text but if you want to call it the terms of the metaphor taking the phones of other words that blocks the driver from taking the from carrying the the vaccine into the cell so the f- the lure does wand doesn't generate a strong response to the chimpanzee virus but still pump primes the immune system against the vaccine against the spike protein. I should say so. The second vaccine does work so this is actually good news so could be. That is just as good and it'd be a nice one to be just as good because it's going to be a lot cheaper. It's going to be available in the developing world. Astros said that they're not going to take any prophets on it at least during the pandemic and transports in the fridge. So it's easy to transport and resilient so you can't average here so the sixty percent is completely misleading. Double full does pretty lousy half those plus four does pretty good and that director attention towards where it should go.
In a first, San Francisco DA charges on-duty cop with homicide
"San Francisco District attorney Chase of Boudin's decision to charge an officer with homicide in a police shooting was rare. And tougher charges haven't been ruled out Quds Erica Cruise, Guevara has more manslaughter charges against former officer Christopher Samayoa for his role in the 2017 shooting of Kita O'Neill. Are believed to be the first homicide charges in a use of force case in the city's modern history. Jurors will be asked to convict Samayoa voluntary or involuntary manslaughter for his role in the shooting, which took place during a police chase. Bodine told the San Francisco Chronicle that a murder charge isn't off the table. Mohsen Old is an attorney representing O'Neal's family. They don't want to overcharge because the likelihood of getting a conviction is lower. But then if you under charge You know, the communities looking old says the statute of limitations were closing in on the manslaughter
Paris police under fire for forcing migrants from tent camp
"Paris Police are getting into clashes, as they say on the BBC at a migrant camp. Calling the scenes shocking. Dozens of small tents removed occupants being tipped out by police homeless migrants, saying they're forced to live on the streets. This is more As I see it. This is Maura of that conversation about going after radicals LA mists. And taking a look at what's been happening in Paris in the whole of France and what France is allowed and realizing the mist ake that
The Latest News On The War In Yemen
"War in yemen has been one of the grimmer stories unfolding anywhere on earth for roughly six years now for most of that time it has struggled fool widespread and much more so this year as the rest of the world was preoccupied with the obvious. One of the reasons that yemen has been under reported is that it has been difficult and dangerous to report from monocle. Twenty-fourth beirut correspondent. Leyla moulana alone has recently been to yemen and joins me now a layla. First of all the logistics at this point of getting in and out of yemen. How do you do it. The logistics arch freaky and there are multiple ways now. there awesome flights operating into yemen. And on the way in the way it was done. was through cairo's flying into cairo. And then going into an applet. Who'd you in the south now the flights of neuron a few times a week. They don't necessarily ron time. All hugely overbooked. Of course with people want to go on another extremely expensive as what happened with us. Was that when we lost one can can you then looking out as well because these flights are constantly moving. So it's very unsure when you go in how exactly oh gutting be able to get out and in all case We had to change into a land route option and dry options country which took days because the flights simply went operational on the way out so not necessarily the stable of travel. Itinerary will clearly once in yemen which parts of it. Were you actually able to see so. I was in shabwah. Governorate which is in the south is traditionally very Very tribal governor. At and at the moment it's now the only southern governor this fact compete under the control of the central government it was until the end of two thousand and nineteen ponti occupied by the some transitional council which is the nutritional southern separatists of southern yemen. But they were pushed out at the end of two thousand and nineteen alongside the shabani elite forces which were essentially local mercenaries hired and backed by the united arab emirates. Who of fighting that. They had been fighting against al qaeda terrorists forces that they will push out the two thousand eighteen so it is now backsitting under government control but of course at still a lot of controls over the different parties that some things. That isn't the right decision. So in that part of yemen is life relatively stable and peaceful on the one hand is driving around the capital city act. They're all going up. There are shop opening people walking around. That does seem to be a bishop. Prosperity come back and stuff. People was antony there were jobs hidden now. We can't find jobs in other areas with coming his to work so in on that side of things know that building tourist complex building hotels that very hopeful that the level of stability having now even things like went scoreless Address the that level of civility means that they will have increasing prosperity. The problem of course is firstly that the country as many said to me is still seen as water but also there are a lot of problems with stability they currently have posited is because there is oil. it's one of the three governorates that has a lot of oil in yemen and the governor has made a deal with the central government that they get a twenty percent cut. That goes straight to the governor at so they can invest in rebuilding infrastructure analytical houses in the governor at. That's a great deal. But a lot of people in southfield they should be getting even more not so much of it should be going to the central government that trying to encourage more western oil companies to come back in as also lots of liquid natural gas that the moment there is just one australian oil company functioning on The moment there is just one austrian oil company who is currently can shop. Hope that increase was fired. You enjoy -tunities Very unstable as i say with the political situation still going around. They're all active. Frontlines from the nearest one is in marriage to the north. That's fine with the season is also still frontlines. The southern traditional council as well given everything you've said about life in shaw born those soins reasonably encouraging signs of some sort of return to normality. Does it feel like the government is itself a self contained country at this point. Is there much talk about trying to put yemen back together. So this is the big question with some people are saying shove what is the example of how of federalist yemen could work. You know in which the different governorates level tournament. A certain amount of money to run that own concerns are loyal to a central government and of course contribute troops to a central government. Which is what's currently happening. Lots of shift one young men going and fighting own the nearest frontline that the government has up in a way in tons for its relationship that they have on say. The governor is a loyal to central. Government has a good working relationship barron which she has been given this level of autonomous theoretically that is hopeful future. The problem is that people are fighting for different reasons. This is something people kept saying to me that you know there are some people who had the interest of the money interest of the oil. The pool of calls many people saying that the uae and the arabia of that those reasons. But then you've got some transitional council bay come from a long line of people who believe that the south of the. Nfl is completely different from the nose. Should be united and shouldn't be wrong from the north which causes where at the central government is based although i should say that most of the people who make up the central government actually are outside the country right now because he ended so constantly moving on stable But seth me they're southerners new feel wouldn't at shouldn't be enrolled in the as the south bend. Of course you have. The who fees. Who are the shiite iran backed militia. Who are still fighting in. How occupied a lot of the north of the moment. They are running at sanaa city at the moment still and they of course flight final ideology and copy one of my money as many people said to me that it's not just about these business relationships on the national resources so while the idea the united yemen too. Many people is hugely appealing. And so many people that saying can you with retired war. We want peace. We want elections. We just want to get on with our lives and have yemen stop being associated with the idea of this ongoing horrific war which the united nations is called the greatest humanitarian crisis currently in the world but whether or not that's realistic the number of political issues currently butting up against each other both in tunnel and the proxy wars being fooled by international powers is is another question is obviously not short of problems but it was also burden this year as every country on earth walls by the covid nineteen pandemic. Were you able to get much sense of how that has affected life in yemen or how yemen with the resources it has has been able to handle it so the area i was in has extreme yellow covid figures at least in tons of what's being counted now going in i thought perhaps they simply aren't being counted all covered up in some way. One of the arguments is of course. It doesn't really make sense for the government to be covering up coach. Vic is because it's one way of them getting access to aid. Amy because so much aid money to other projects has been coastal this year because it will bring directed towards codex but in the area. I was in shock whistle. The numbers are extremely loads. They do have a new testing center in the capital of. Its just couple of months old. That's incompletely funded and built by the saudis very center. It isn't getting much use because they don't seem to be that many people coming in now elsewhere in yemen. The problem has been much worse. Part of the reason might be that there is not that much movement in the south. Where's the north in ogden. In saana a further away from that is a lot of moving there and we. Stephanie seen horrific numbers of people really struggling particularly ibp comps. Where who's it spreads wildfire. Now i did meet with several people who said that in the prisons. The situation is getting much worse as well. I spoke a couple of prisoners families who said that they the dominant co code in prison and the conditions were horrendous. They were not being freed Unlike many prisons seeing around the world who've been given a thorough from prison while the coronavirus has been spreading shouts great concern. The big problem really is as i say. That was not much of it to be seen at the moment. But the very worried about Of course we know that in the summer does seeing that the transmission. I'll in the winter. Once that construe immune systems are the health service simply The local hospital is absolutely overwhelmed. Ready mary i was having a den. Gay deng massive outbreak which is affecting a lot of young children in particular from the rural areas. You have to travel hundreds of kilometers to get to the hospital. So although right now where i was as i say not that big a problem if it does hit in the winter and docs saying they're concerned about that. It would be really really devastating. The muslim needs right now. Layla milana allen in beirut. Thanks for joining us.
When Critters Bleed ... On Purpose!
"Okay now so why did you get interested in this whole reflex bleeding thing well. I just saw this report by that guy. Sebastian hofer and i called him up and he told me that not too long ago he got a job at an island ecosystem research institute in the and so i was looking into what's around. What kind of animals are just scanning through the literature just to see what of questions could answer any read about. These local snakes called thunder snakes. That sounds very dramatic. Thunder thunder thunder snakes. Really it's just that they come out when it rains a lot. And i remember reading this from nineteen fifty five describing this behavior this auto hemorrhaging behavior in these snakes. And i just thought to myself. That's insane so there weren't any photos or any kind of detailed description. It just said. The snakes bled from their heads when handled so he did what most good scientists would do. I assume he went out on an expedition to fight snakes. Absolutely you know it. He absolutely did. He had a couple of colleagues went out looking under rocks flipped a ton of rocks until they finally found one and the snake made some defensive behaviors kinda rolled into this tight ball and it started defecating. And asking you know emitting this pretty bad smelling liquid and then sebastian applied a little pressure to its nose like just gently pinched. Its nose to see if they could trigger any bleeding from handling all right. Now you set me this video. And i'm watching a. It's like a little nose pinch. Maybe you know you pinch at like good. And but then boom the snakes is fill up with blood like immediately there are just too big drops of blood where the is used to be and then suddenly the is kind of clear up and then a drop of blood comes out of its mouth yes. Sebastian told me it was wild. Just because i've never seen anything like that. And just the fact of how quickly that i or the is fully flood with blood and then the blood exudes from the mouth and then the ice fully clear up again in just a couple of seconds. I was stunned. I was like this is mad. I mean that is pretty dramatic and you said other critters. Do this to right right some other snakes. You know the one that's been studied. The most is the horned lizard. That's a lizard that lives in the us in the southern us and what it does is pretty nutso. It shoots blood out of its is and the blood can fly several feet several feet. Yeah it doesn't happen that often but when it does it's so dramatic that it really gets people's attention. Indigenous people have known about these lizards for a long time. European scientists wrote about them centuries ago and for forty years. These lizards have been studied by wage. Sherbrooke director emeritus of the southwestern research station of the american museum of natural history in arizona and he told me at the beginning. He was just wondering if this is supposed to be a defensive response. Why would blood be a turnoff. For what is after all a bloodthirsty predator. Good question when you try to say well. Maybe a predator wouldn't like it depends on is going to eat these things you know. That doesn't make sense so That's that's where i started. So he began watching the lizards in doing experiments. And what he found that. The horned lizard wouldn't always squirt blood from its eyes when threatened by an animal. And what i found was with roadrunners with grasshopper mice with Leopard lizards with rattlesnakes with other snakes. They never squirt blood. They don't do it then so when do they do it. Do they squirt blood. He told me it's when the lizard is about to be eaten by something like a coyote. Or a bob cat and the reason is the blood has a distasteful quality to mammalian predators and it has to be. It has to arrive in the mouth. Okay so these lizards are not really trying to like hit. A predator from several feet away by sending streams of blood. Flying out of there is apparently not disappointing. It's more like a coyotes mouth clamps down on the lizard the lizard squirts out foul tasting blood. Way told me that when he goes out and handles horned lizards only a couple times. Out of one hundred. Will it actually squirt blood from its. Is you know he said. Humans aren't typical predator. So he thinks lizard is just kind of confused. It doesn't really know what to do and he told me he's actually tasted the blood no for a long time. I thought it basically tastes like my blood. I wish i was surprised that this took a turn to a scientist tasting blood. But i'm not look. This is science magazine science. So then you know after a while. Though he started thinking actually there is this kind of you know aftertaste. Kind of acid aftertaste that lasted for maybe twenty minutes. Or so he said it was really minor. But if he squirts the blood into the mouth of a coyote or a bobcat they have a really strong reaction disgusting immediately. They begin to celebrate quite a bit. They shake their head to all kinds of things like that to to they. They have different taste. Buds than i do okay. Okay so all of this kind of suggests that for these horned lizards. This is really a strategic specific defense that it's not just a random stress response. I mean you could imagine that if an animal gets like it's blood pressure goes up lead might just shoot out of a leaky capillary. Somehow i guess but this seems to be pretty specific defense move aimed at particular predators right and like i mentioned before. The horned lizards auto hemorrhage has more studied than any other creatures. Okay salikh what beyond reptiles you said. Some insects do this to ladybugs. Yeah actually quite a lot of insects do this. And if you're poking at a lady bug and some liquid comes out it might just seem to you like it was urine or feces or something you know in ladybugs it comes out of the legs underneath so it's hard to see where it's coming out. It's yellow you know so unless you know what it is. You'd have no reason to think. This thing is just bled on me. You know spontaneously was happened. And now i'm looking back and i'm like oh that was blood cool so i talked to michael nop. He studies ladybugs at the czech university of life sciences and he told me that reflex bleeding is a highly effective way for ladybugs to deter predators because their blood is full of substances that smell and probably taste awful two birds or small mammals and he told me that actually if a lady but gets attacked by ants the coagulating blood can act like a kind of glue that glues aunts mouth parts together during the attack. I mean that's pretty amazing now. But here's the thing. I don't understand about this doesn't a lady bug need. It's blood i mean like it seems like critters would be at a disadvantage of some sort if they went around anytime they got threatened. So like how much blood are we talking about. So for ladybugs. He told me it can be a lot like up to fifteen or twenty percent of all. Its blood wild. Why i mean for you that would be like if you lost a liter of blood like a couple pint blood so it is significant. And that's why he's been looking into the consequences of this. I mean you know he said bleeding could save a lady life but there are also some costs and we re better searching for physiological costs in our research he just published one set of experiments he and his colleagues forced young lady bugs to reflex bleed repeatedly like every day and then they studied them and what they saw is that the bugs immune system seemed a little weekend but the number of eggs they produced was the same their reproductive success was almost unaffected. You know maybe just some slight delays in the age at first reproduction but nothing major. So what i'm taking from this. Is that these insects kind of know what they're doing like evolutionary speaking. I mean do they filter the blood in any way to try to preserve the good stuff and week only just like the nasty compounds in it. His is actually looked at this and he told me that the blood that spontaneously comes out of ladybugs is exactly the same as the blood inside. And when i asked him you know exactly like what is going on. You're like is there an opening in the leg. He said no. Like somehow the insect is able to kind of injure itself to somehow create an opening in its skin or cuticle. But it's not like all the mechanical details of reflects bleeding have been well studied. It's still pretty obscure all right now. Well thank you for this mini tour of the world of auto hemorrhage
GM to recall nearly 6 million vehicles in U.S. to replace Takata air bags
"Gm is recalling millions of vehicles worldwide over potentially dangerous takata airbags that us regulators say run the risk of exploding. World's kristen flavin has that story. General motors will spend more than a billion dollars to recall. Seven million full sized pickup trucks and suv's from model years two thousand seven through two thousand fourteen. The announcement came monday after the us. Government told the automaker it must recall six million of the vehicles in the united states. The company argued the airbag inflator canisters house. Been safe on the road and in testing but us. Regulators aren't convinced exploding takada inflators have forced automakers to recall a record sixty three million of them to caught a used volatile ammonium nitrate to create a small explosion to fill air bags in a crash but the chemical candidate when exposed to heat and humidity and they can explode with too much pressure exploiting inflators have killed twenty seven people worldwide including eighteen in the
Branson Beats Musk in Human Hyperloop Test
"A week ago a man and a woman got into a metal pod sat down on vegan leather seats and strap themselves for a trip. Unlike any other the pod was then levitated by magnets and shot through vacuum tube at one hundred seven miles per hour in roughly six seconds. Talk about a wild ride and it was actually an historic first. The two brave souls are employees of virgin hyperloop and they were the first humans to test. The new technology virgin hyperloop focuses on the high speed transportation concept billionaire. Richard branson's virgin group is a minority investor before testing the system with humans virgin hyperloop conducted more than four hundred unmanned tests. Hyperloop has been called the future of transport. The systems are designed to be giant low pressure tubes floating pods or suspended by magnets and carry passengers from point. Eight point at theoretical speeds of up to seven hundred miles per hour. Here's how it works. The pod network uses magnetic levitation two sets of magnets both repel the pod in the tube and help move it forward and the vacuum system used to help accelerate to high speeds is similar to the system. You use to send your documents to the teller at your bank. drive through. Popular mechanics explains inside the pod. G forces were more than three times that of an airplane but the passengers said the ride was smooth. New york times reported ultimately groups like virgin hyperloop hoped to deploy the technology to transport people and cargo. The speed would reduce the time. It takes to get from los angeles to san francisco to less than an hour. The times report says that's faster than a direct flight. When the hyperloop debuts it will be the first truly new transportation technology and more than one hundred years the independent reports branson isn't the only billionaire dabbling in hyperloop technology. You may have heard of a fellow named elon musk. He's credited with conceptualizing the technology nearly a decade ago and he is boring company. Boring as in boring tunnels underground has a test tunnel california that it's using to test. Its hyperloop and other technology. Each year musk's spacex holds a hyperloop pod competition where university students compete to make prototypes of high speed transportation. Pods last year. Students from the university of munich won the competition there. To um hyperloop pod set a new speed record for the competition of nearly three hundred miles per hour a longer track could help teams reach even higher speeds. Musk says virgin. Hyperloop is already designed to route between london. Borough branson says the uk route would be quicker and cheaper than the high speed rail system being put in now. The independent reports and richard geddes co founder of the hyperloop advanced research partnership believes that. There's an opportunity for a hyperloop. System linking abu dhabi and dubai in the united arab emirates. For now the hyperloop is still a theoretical transport system with more than a dozen companies working on bringing it reality and when you have competitive billionaires behind for bragging rights about being first to market things have a way getting done
Seattle City Council votes to cut Seattle Police Budget, transfer 911 and parking enforcement out
"With the week off and in the news cuts forced by covert and major changes to the police department. Among the big issues on the 2021 Seattle City budget, which come was Ryan Harris says. Was approved by 8 to 1 City Council vote just a little bit again. The cuts proposed for Seattle police amount to nearly 20% and include moving 911 and parking enforcement out of SPD, which the council approved in a separate bill. Many public commenters aligned with council member Shama Sawant are unhappy. The cuts aren't bigger. But council member Deborah War is calls 50% police de funding a slogan When you undo these type of racist institutions, it doesn't happen because you have a chance in a T shirt. It's being in the trench. She's in. Some of us have been there a long time moving forward Marchi towards a plan to do right by everybody. The council did have to make cuts to different departments because tax revenue has dropped during the pandemic. But it also approved an increase in the city's $20 tab. Feet of $40 to go toward transportation improvements.
‘Hear Us Out’: Philadelphia Gym Owners Joining Forces To Push Back Against Latest Shutdown
"Billy Gyms are closed for the second time this year because of the city's coronavirus restrictions. And now gym owners are getting together to ask the city for help. K Y W. Carol Mackenzie spoke to NBC tens. Miguel Martinez via who joined us this morning to tell us what gym owners what they're asking for the gym owners. They're basically asking for a seat at the table. I mean, as we know they On through one shut down, and they've invested a lot of money since opening back up in safety, So they're arguing they should be deemed essential businesses and stay open because of how important they are to people's physical and mental health as well. So what about restaurants here? They you know, they're not allowed to do indoor dining. That's right. Yes, so restaurants. Actually they started their own restaurant coalition on so they're petitioning the city as well. They're actually meeting with city officials on Tuesday, and that's basically what these gym owners are asking for themselves. They want to be able to have that communication to show the city. Some of the research that they've been doing because they've been gathering data since they opened some of these indoor spaces. They are actually have a 30 member Coalition of Fitness coalition. And there's circulating this petition to try to get the city to see it their way to deem them essential and to really take a look at the numbers that they have been gathering about whether there is any transmissions inside of the gym's Group is planning an outdoor work out and protest across from City Hall tomorrow morning.
The Big House Smash Melee & Ultimate online event canceled following Nintendo cease & desist order
"Tournaments in the smash brothers community. Oh that's interesting. I definitely this paragraph definitely starts in the middle on what happened there. Why did that get leader. Kevin what did you do there. I'm pretty sure you really you think it was me. This year's installment of the big house one of the most important tournaments in the smash super smash brothers. He has been shut down by nintendo. Its use of fan. Develop mod meant to improve online play in super smash brothers melee quote. The big house is heartbroken to share. We've received a cease and desist from nintendo america inc to cancel our upcoming online event. Tournaments official statement reads. We were informed. We do not have permission to host or broadcast. The event primarily due to the usage of slippy we are forced to comply with the with the order and cancelled a big house online for both melee and ultimate new quote here from nintendo quote nintendo appreciates the love and dedication the fighting game community has for the super smash brothers series nintendo told cocoon an email. We have partnered with numerous super smash brothers tournaments in the past and host our own online and offline tournaments for the game and we plan to continue that support in the future. Unfortunately the upcoming big house tournament announced plans to host online tournament for super smash brothers melee that requires the use of illegally copied versions of the game in conjunction with ahmad called slippy during their online event nintendo therefore contacted the tournament organizers. Ask them to stop. They refused nintendo no choice but to step in and protect its intellectual property and brands. Nintendo cannot condone or allow privacy of its intellectual property and quote prejudice. Here now while the big house organized robin juggle guy. Horn confirmed these details in an email to kentucky. It should be noted that backing up your your own. Copies of video games for personal use is entirely legal per united states. Copyright law and parentheses. Slippy is a third party modification built by a group of fans to add rollback net code super smash brothers melee before slipping release earlier this year malay players suffered with a subpar infrastructure the mid the nineteen year old game much harder to play at a competitive level but with the addition of rollback net code the benefits of which are widely acknowledged by anyone who takes the fighting game. Seriously malay players were able to finally enjoy great matches with far-flung opponents the arrival of slippy became even more important as the onset of the covid nineteen pandemic pump the brakes on the grassroot tournament circuit with several notable players singing. His praises. many of those players are rightfully making their displeasure with nintendo online in the wake of the big houses. Cancel ization and the hashtag has free. Malay is now trending on twitter quo of all the shit from nintendo. This takes the prize. Adam armato lindgren's another top layer player said quote it's a global pandemic going on is a is a global pandemic going on in intend to once again wants the competitive seem to suffer. Is it too much to ask that. People can play and compete in games from home during this time esa slippery slope where i see both sides of it right because i actually cut the article. I'm off my game. I was so excited. Hang out with you today right. It's going to say of course that to do this like it's been hinted at their you need to be emulating it. And that's why the copyright thing comes in where you're going is that you're not playing the game as it's meant to be you're using this thing and going off of a not so here it is when mainly came out in two thousand one did not have any form of network play adding such necessities The use of the game cube and we emulator dolphin which can which one can only assume nintendo would rather not exist that would make slippy which works in conjunction with the dolphin. A no go. Even if the mod isn't the crux of the problem ended up itself. So that's the mix up problem here right where this is all going from. Where do you stand on this. So i mean. Does the tendons doing their own thing. It's weird that they say that they appreciate love the dedication the fighting game community. Has i the smash brothers series and then they pull something like this and it's it's also interesting that there is that slip up that little bit of confusion with emulation because wasn't it just like a few years ago that they were on the witch hunt for people that were emulating any sort of nintendo game share. Yeah so for for for the point that the person making the article on. I apologize in walker in walker like we're covert. It's a pandemic. were stuck at home. We can't go to ebo. We can't go to all of these other fighting game. I i haven't been. I would love to but i can't. This would be a perfect opportunity to watch that to be a part of that and to see them shut. This down is just really disappointing.
The Startup Story of Netflix | Shaun Cauthen
"And then that's why i'm voting for now that's a that's going to be like. What the heck did we say. We just missed that cold cut. Sean so i i mentioned were talking mainly for forbes. We're gonna take this audio. Put it out as a cast as well and I want everyone who's listening and stuff to to know that this is kind of interesting. I mean i was just decided. I'm going to watch a documentary. While i'm on my treadmill and so choose brand new recommended for me net flicks versus the world on amazon prime which reading from imdb the story of how a tiny broke silicon valley startup slew giants of the movie rental world warded off amazon and forced movie making and distribution into the digital age. And i was blown away by it. And i mean like who made this thing and then i said who shone coffin and i want to make sure i don't forget so i i learn a little bit about you from your website. Texas movie director dot com. I then started stalking you on twitter. Where you're handle is dude versus movie. And that's a dude. Vs movie and i reached out and said hey man. I'm a fan from a couple of angles a the netflix's story but also what it's like to be an indie moviemaker these days. Do you wanna talk and you were nice enough to say yes. So welcome to the cast. Thanks for chatting for forbes. Thanks for having me. I mean when you reached out. Like i've i've actually used twitter to reach out to people that watch the movie. So it's it's interesting to talk to people from like south. Africa are vancouver or across the pond in england. Because you know as a you know Independent moviemaker here in austin texas outside of hollywood itself. It's it's cool to have your work seen around the world expr- especially when it was a. It was a tough hill to climb so to speak to get the film ned. Well we'll get more into that in a second but so how. How did you get into the movie making business. What's your back when you look like a pretty young guy so to have something like you know out there like this seems pretty. Cool my Camera must be doing good things for me. 'cause i'm i'm thirty seven i have Four children and they definitely make me look tired. all the No so i I went to i. I went to college here in austin at university of texas to become the next you know mcconnell. Hey no no. I'm a texan. So i wanted to university of texas to get a film degree in the graduated I worked on a few independent films. Here in austin and then started working for tv on a show called room raiders. The basically someone would go through three different rooms in based on that they would decide who they went on a date with So yes oh. That show ended up getting canceled. But i moved out to la. And i did a celebrity interviews and red carpets for a platform call cannot lose which is a european station and i worked for the spanish version of that and so i was out there in hollywood for bed and and most most people in la will attest to this. Like you're not going to own a house in l. a. Unless like you're like a millionaire. You're hitting a big. We decided although i loved l. a. in i loved what i did out in la. I wanted to move back to texas. I could actually own a house tonight. And i ended up back out here but i always had the desire to kind of a make movies and like i said before having poor children young girls madeta girls In my wife having a successful career herself documentary as is what you can do. Is you could go fly somewhere for a week. Flight home to be with the family and everything so That's that's what i did in the first movie i worked on. There is a couple of guys making a trying to raise money to make a documentary about nickelodeon. And i grew up in that nickelodeon like i loading kid like. I didn't have the disney channel nickelodeon so it was definitely something that i was like. Well i'm used to interview in celebrities in such such like that. So i can jump onto this project and help them because Interviewing people for movies. Like tom cruise and will smith and everything. I knew the nickelodeon people weren't going to be above that level. So i was are used to working with a high profile tile talent so i came on there I helped shoot. I helped edit. And i helped produce and then at the end of that. I was looking on the next project i wanted to do in the book and i don't. I don't read a lot. Because i'm always jumping from show to show or working on different cell for spending time with my family but i read this book. That's called netflix. That epic battle for america's eyeballs which gina keating wrote. And it was. it was about netflixing their origin. That would be a great documentary. So i reach out turn. I was like hey. I'm starting my next documentary. I would love to interview you. She said why Actually started my documentary Maybe we should team up. And so that's how the the movie started.
Caleb Barlow Discusses Healthcare Industry Ransomware Attacks and Measures to Prevent Cybercrimes
"Welcome to the healthcare policy podcast on the host David Intra Cosso. This podcast discussed cybercrime or ransomware attacks against hospitals and other healthcare providers with Collab- Barlow CEO Synergistic Tech this barlow welcome to the program. Hey pleasure to be here. David. Mr Biles vile is, of course, posted on the podcast website. On background computer or cybercrimes against healthcare providers, more of a hospitals, disabled computer networks holding them for ransom. Frequently for Bitcoin fee, the tax have been prevalent since at least two, thousand and ten. This past month however, universal health services with over four hundred locations. Over in the US suffered a cyber attack disabling it's company wide computer network causing some it's hospitals to revert to pen and paper recordkeeping also last month the first known death. Resulted from a ransomware attack in Germany when a patient did not survive transferred to another hospital. Though a twenty nineteen hhs report found between twenty, twelve and sixteen. Hospital deaths increased after ransomware attacks. Earlier this month covid nineteen VACs. A covid nineteen vaccine trial was delayed by more attack or at least one. Likely. The most costly ransomware attack was to the UK's national health service in seventeen that amounted to an estimated one, hundred, twenty, million in it costs and lost productivity. ransomware attacks are on the increase especially amongst small hospitals, particularly vulnerable to phishing attacks, lasting upwards of tumor weeks because of their lean or inadequate security support. As Josephine Wolf noted in October Seventeen New York Times editorial quote Unquote cybersecurity shortcomings in the healthcare sector needs to be addressed now. More than ever when medical care is increasingly being offered via remote online formats. In twenty twenty states introduced more than two hundred and eighty cybersecurity related bills enacting several related to task forces or commissions training. Cybersecurity insurance in criminal. Penalties. The US Senate and House passed seven cybersecurity bills whoever not specifically addressed the healthcare industry and none became law. With me again and discuss healthcare cybersecurity is synergise texts, CEO. COLLAB- Barlow so club with that. As background LET'S START WITH A. Primer Info. I've read these ransomware products. in part are. Titled or named Wannacry Laki Win Plock encrypt locker. Are some these known ransomware product. So my question is, how do these encrypt clinical data and to what effect? So. So basically, what happening if you look at ransomware incident is a you know a narrow will gets access to a network and that could be as simple as grabbing somebody's credentials. You know maybe you were on a retail site, use the same credentials you used at work that retail site was compromised and There are many locations on the dark web that will. Sell compromised credentials or could have been through a phishing attack once the bad guy is into the network then there's two primary things that they're looking to do first is to move laterally. They WANNA get as much access across the networks they can, and there are a variety of tools that they'll deploy. They will actually help them harvest additional credentials once they've got a beachhead. On, the network in addition to harvesting new credentials and kind of moving lateral or what we call lateral movement. The other thing that are going to do is to try to elevate their privilege. So going from maybe an administrator or you know a nurse and triage and maybe getting access to their credentials, they're going to try to work their way up to a network. Administrator or someone that controls access to the whole domain once they've been able to get in and move their tentacles around the organization, then they're going to deploy their payroll, which is one of several of the tools that you mentioned will allow them to then lock things up effectively what these tools, our cryptographic tools, and they basically take the entire hard drive at the device. Scramble it and lock it up with a cryptographic key. What we've seen of late is the bad guys oftentimes insert a new step just before scrambling data, locking it all up in that the exfiltrated lot of it, and they're using that to increase their chances of getting paid by potentially threatening to. The organization by releasing that data if they don't pay ransom. Okay. Thank you so. I in my reading. It's uncertain Saul. Asked you this question? What's your understanding? How frequently? Is this occurring in the healthcare sector? Oh, it's every day I mean literally every single day because you got to remember what you read about in the news is only a very small fraction of what's actually going on even though technically speaking ransomware incident is as far as I'm concerned reportable incident because you gotta remember if the bad guy had enough access to walk up your data, they had the same level of access needed to read the data and they actually in many cases had the same level access needed to change the data. So the problem is you've actually lost control of that system when you've had a ransomware incident. I. So that was that was a question I did have. Other than. Possibly, making this data public and you know healthcare data's is is is confidential proprietary, of course. What do they typically do this data other than hold it hostage? Well remember, this is a organized crime. It is a volume organization you're dealing with a human on the other end and that human is organized right. You're not the only target, their targeting dozens of organizations at the same time in many cases are teams of thirty individuals and you know there's a breakdown on that team there's a project manager of a boss. There's people that are responsible for getting access. There's people that are responsible for moving laterally people responsible for elevating credentials and people are responsible for negotiating. Once walked up system
"forced" Discussed on Money For the Rest of Us
"Last week in the insiders guide email newsletter I pointed out the expensive valuation of US stocks. . Specifically I showed that the forward price to earnings ratio the P. E. based on earnings estimates over the next year was twenty, , two point nine. . That's three standard deviations above its average of sixteen times going back to two thousand, , three at data from Ned Davis. . Research. . In reply to that email, , Andrew wrote regarding stocks being expensive on a forward e true but there's no alternative. . What do you do with bond yields near Zero and the vanguard total stock market? ? Index. . Fund. . Yielding two percent. . By VPI, , the vanguard total stock market ETF. . JASA forwarded to me a paper by Bridgewater says, , which I'll discuss in more detail later in this episode. . I had a similar question from a plus member in the money for the rest of US plus member forums. . He wrote. . So the Fed signals that it wants to keep rates low for three more years. . Canada's pension. . Fund is reevaluating bond-holdings and you've got an army of small and large investors bidding up companies like Tesla and snowflake to absurdly hype. . All this combined to make me think are we as individual investors now forced to buy equities? ? Is this the mother of all bubbles in which there's literally no other things suitable for purchase. . There is a lot of speculation in stocks right now. . Jim. . Bianco Bianca Research pointed out that small traders are dominating the options market. . Bear most of the trades right now and seventy five percent of that volume is an option contracts expire in two weeks. . So short term bets. . Look at South Korea and article from Bloomberg pointed out that day traders in South Korea have accounted for eighty seven and a half percent of the total value of stocks traded in the first part of September. . You. . Some men chief strategist at Samsung Securities said retail investors appear to be seeking short-term profits after hearing their next door neighbors earned lots of money from stocks after the March selloff. . Receiving a similar situation in India. . The Financial Times reports that the number of individual investor accounts rose twenty percent from the start of the year, , the twenty, , four million, , and they point out that around the world, , an influx of investors are investing in stocks for the first time. . Are. . We in a bubble? ? Is it a speculative frenzy? ? Are we forced to buy these stocks because there are no alternatives with also? ? One of the things I like to do investing is think about what's different this time what's unusual? ? What what doesn't fit the pattern? ? I had two instances of investing this past week where something didn't fit the pattern Lebron, , I were driving up in the mountains of Montana and a small bear cub really bolted right in front of us no idea what it was running from. . My son suggested he was running from the year twenty twenty. . And then few days later at our front door, , there were seven cows drinking water from the driveway eating our bushes. . There are no cows around us. . We live in an area that nobody keeps cows but there they were right in front of my house. . Turns out. . They had strayed from the National Forest, , which is not very far some outfitters have grazing rights and drop off the cows and leave them there all summer pick them up come late October, , and they had straight down because some of that newly cut barley fields, , but it didn't fit the pattern. . Cows at your front door. . Don't fit the pattern. . What's different now on investing front that could justify more expensive valuations for stocks. . Well, , for the first time, , ever US interest rates are near zero from short term out to ten years. . This is known as a flat yield curve, , which is an unusual. . We've had flat yield curves in the past. . But it's flat near zero. . There was a flat yield curve where ten treasury bonds and cash for yielding similar back from two thousand and five to two thousand seven. . But yielding four percent. . And from two thousand to two, , thousand, , two cash and tenure treasures were yielding five to six percent. . Today, , the ten year Treasury yield is zero point, six , percent and cash is zero. . The Federal Reserve intense to keep it that way. . The recent policy statement suggests that they will keep their policy rate. . What's known as the Fed funds rate near zero until labor market conditions have improved. . The. Unemployment . rate has dropped close to to to maximum employment and that inflation has risen to two percent is on track to moderately exceed two percent. . They included their economic and rate projections and all, , but four officials on the committee. . Expect the Fed funds rate is still be near zero at the end of twenty, , twenty three. . Rates are low across the board. . It is a different investment environment than we have ever faced before. . And that's what this paper by bridgewater associates was about. . It was titled Grappling With the New Reality of zero bond yields virtually everywhere. . It was written by Bob Prince Greg Jensen Melissa fear, , and Jim Haskell. . I. . Discussed Bridgewater Associates Founder Ray dallies views back in episode three, , hundred changing world order in this paper bills off that. . Before we continue let me pause and share some words from one of this week sponsors masterworks. . I've shared on the show how low interest rates are on bonds and yields and cash about zero money has to be invested somewhere in preserving your wealth is as hard as it's ever been. . That's where masterworks comes in. . If you're looking to diversify out of the traditional public markets, , then take a look at masterworks. . They make blue chip art investing possible works by artists like Banksie, , 'cause and Warhol. . Art is a one point seven trillion dollar asset class that has performed better than s five hundred by one hundred and eighty percent between two thousand and two thousand eighteen according to Citibank. .
"forced" Discussed on Sawbones: A Marital Tour of Misguided Medicine
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"forced" Discussed on Sawbones: A Marital Tour of Misguided Medicine
"What we have found as recently as a report from two, thousand, five to two, thousand and thirteen. In a California state prisons showed that one hundred, thirty, two women had to Gatien's performed without appropriate consent. There were records that were falsified. There were records that were removed again the many of the patients came forward and said, we were not told that it was permanent or We were told that we had to do this for various reasons, legal reasons or again benefits or something. They were coerced into doing it. One of the doctors who was responsible for a a good percentage of these procedures made the comment that. The money that these procedures cost these sterilizations procedures cost was minimal compared to what you save in welfare pain for these unwanted children as they pro created more. Which is The language of eugenics. Let me pure and simple. Yes. it's there's nothing. There's nothing. Hidden about that A lot of these modern eugenics and by modern now, I mean today efforts focus on We want to prevent pregnancy because we don't feel like you can support children financially, and so it's not in the interest of some sort of genetic. Race Master race thing it's in the interest of the state to save money. I'm is the argument but can you pick a worse one right now what's the worst one said? Can you actually choose I actually sitting here trying to choose I can't choose..
"forced" Discussed on Sawbones: A Marital Tour of Misguided Medicine
"Indigenous population is between nineteen, seventy and nineteen, seventy, six between twenty, five and forty two percent of women of reproductive age who came in seeking healthcare services had. Sterilization performed. Again. The concept of informed consent doesn't really apply because who knows what the doctor was specifically saying what they were explaining it reversible or not nobody was ever told these things and in some cases, it was completely blatant. There were two young women who were brought him for appendectomies and while they were there they. They had a sterilization procedure performed without anyone knowing this was happening The same thing again in California to go back to California There was a nineteen hundred, five case in which Ten Latino women shoot hospital for sterilization without consent. Same thing they were not told that this was permanent they were told they were coerced into this happening So you see these abuses happening again now targeted not so I mean. I I don't WanNa. Say that. disabled people weren't being targeted because certainly, that can you know the the the rights of disabled people are still in jeopardy in this country to this day but you see these specific abuses aimed at certain racial groups that are. Deemed, less desirable to reproduce So. All of these cases in the seventies. kind of it came to a head. I don't know if it was the we can say we realized this was occurring or it came to light to the point where we couldn't deny it was occurring anymore as a collective as a society A central figure in this effort is Dr, Helen Rodriguez Trias who had worked lived and worked in both New York and Puerto Rico and understood all of the abuse. That was occurring very well in Puerto Rico and helped to form the committee to end sterilization abuse and through their efforts along with help from the ACO you and there were some studies published from the CDC that kind of shed light on a lot of this stuff they advocated to the Department of Health Education and Welfare, which is now the HHS health and Human Services..
"forced" Discussed on Sawbones: A Marital Tour of Misguided Medicine
"So we don't want you to reproduce was kind of where it started either you have a physical disability or Development Developmentally delayed something like that. It quickly branched out into certain racial groups and specifically in the American south. Black people were targeted This started all the way back when these laws were initially past North Carolina actually created a eugenics board back in the thirties and that would that would add heavily North Carolina. committed a lot of these four sterilizations because of this eugenics board aimed largely at black women but black people in general black men to and They eventually have actually paid like settlements to people since then in the year since then because of this but in southern states, doctors would take advantage of a lack of literacy and medical understanding to manipulate people into these procedures without actually forcing them. That's that's the other thing like you as you see, the eugenics movement from like. A very oh I am doing this to you because the state doesn't want you to have kids to. backhanded ways of preventing people coercing people or just taking advantage of the fact that they don't understand. So one important trial that brought light to a lot of what was happening in the south was in one, thousand, nine, hundred, seventy, three, there were three young black women Katie Maryalice and many Lee Ralph who were seventeen, fourteen and twelve, and their mother was brought them to the doctor m was told that they could all get birth control shots. The shot was available and she said that's okay that's good I want them to get the birth control shot Now, the oldest sister Katie got the shot, which by the way was still, and this is a whole other history was still. In in trials was still experimental to begin with, but the older sister got the shot as well as an IUD that her mother didn't know about. An intruder in device to prevent pregnancy. The younger to Maryalice in many league got Tubal ligations performed. Without their mothers consent. There will without any explanation that the doctor was permanently removing their ability to have children In in like all and we're talking about like a level of health literacy all the mother had signed on the form x for her name. So nothing was explained nobody gave consent and this was this case when it was brought forward led to the discovery that between one, hundred, thousand, and one hundred and fifty thousand people in the south black people in the south were subject to forced sterilizations through these tactics You could just take advantage of the fact that they don't know what the peace paper they're signing says just lied to them. Tell them it's all we can reverse it always if you ever change your mind or threaten, we'll take away your government benefits. If you don't get this done, this was a common tactic tactics. So the you see the movement into. Move into this like well it's not that we don't want to reproduce. It's that we don't want to pay for it. So, this is really a financial thing. that was the justification. Similarly native American people were subject to the same treatment through the Indian Health Service In. One Thousand Nine, hundred, seventy titles, ten was passed, which is the the family, the population research and voluntary voluntary family planning program which was to help. Impart use federal funds to pay for certain services aren't healthcare services the result for the Indian health services for the for.
"forced" Discussed on Sawbones: A Marital Tour of Misguided Medicine
"A third of people. Who could give birth in Puerto? Rico had been sterilized. they were not told the procedure was permanent. many were threatened This was one story I, would here is that. One tactic that doctors would use is if someone came into the hospital in in Labor. To deliver a baby, they would say we will not let you in an assist you in this delivery unless you agree to have this procedure done after you have this child. So they would threaten them with with lack of medical here and not just in Puerto Rico. This happened the US as well of course, but EUGENICIST leaders in the US would actually fly would actually bring Puerto Rican doctors to New York to train them in these procedures and send them back in order to curb the population, of Puerto, Rico, and stop them from reproducing. sterilizations across the US were becoming more popular and started targeting black people in the south Mexican Immigrants Asian immigrants certainly indigenous people through the Indian health services were being targeted with these efforts. There is a brief pause and this eugenics narrative in this for sterilization narrative in the country for two reasons one is that in one, thousand, nine, hundred, eighty, two, the Supreme Court ruled that look if we're going to do this on criminals if we if we are going to and when I say criminals. I mean people who have been put in jail who? The state believes have committed a crime whether or not that is true. But if we're going to do that to people who are incarcerated. We have to do it to all of them because of equal protection. So what the Supreme Court at least recognize is that when we're talking about how they were doing these procedures on people who are incarcerated in return for like plea deals and things like that. They were targeting black people and Brown people. White. Collar criminals. Were not being subjected to these force procedures or these deals, and so what the Supreme Court said was look if we really believe the committing a crime is a genetic trait and you can stop it through four sterilization. And so that put him I. Love the. Listen don't get it. We're wild about these four sterilizations here on the Supreme Court fifteen years we've been loving these things we just want it to be..
"forced" Discussed on Sawbones: A Marital Tour of Misguided Medicine
"Said, don't I I? I feel like we're just getting I mean we just made it. It's why yield? That that recently. Eight to you really need to reevaluate the country that you live in when that recently eight of the Supreme Court justices thought that like this was fine. Fine I think it's really we'll get to this point, but I think it's really again it's important if you want to understand. Everything that's happening today. It's important to understand that not too long ago. The idea of Eugenics, the idea that it was okay to surgically. Four speed not to reproduce because you didn't like the traits they might pass on and the idea that there is a perfect or master race. Is Not that old and it took hold really firmly in this country. Get to on American. Now, it's not a uniquely American. We're GONNA get to a pretty big reason why it it did take a downturn. before that it's I think this this sort of shocked me to the state that pursued this most heavily initially was actually California. So California past not the Hippie Paradise it is today no they they pass their own law in nineteen o nine and a lot of these laws that were passed throughout the country were pretty similar just. The the state can sterilize somebody if it is in their best if. They are deemed not capable of raising a child So, they pass their lawn, ninety nine and a lot of it. Here is where it gets tied to if people can't take care of themselves and they're living in poverty. Than the idea at this time is that maybe that's some sort of genetic thing. The genesis thought maybe it's all tied in there. Maybe there's something wrong with these with the DNA of these people who can't seem to. Pay Their rent feed their kids the there's something there, and there were those who also tied to criminality for a while as well though this was a much looser association and it was really the. Genesis had a really hard time trying to prove that part of it. They tried really hard though that you could find the gene for poor gene for murderer and then just eliminate these people from society..
"forced" Discussed on Sawbones: A Marital Tour of Misguided Medicine
"And. So then they said, well, let's institutionalize everybody. Through all of their childbearing years. So that they can't reproduce. Well, that's pricey. So the way that the surgery came in was Oh. This is perfect. We can label someone usually initially it was feeble minded we can label someone feeble minded we can put them in an institution because we've labeled them feeble minded we can force them to have this procedure done, and then we can just release them whenever because one if we don't institutionalize them forever saves money and two we have protected the interests of society because now they can't pass along genetic material. Exactly. And so. This this became. The kind of. This was the way that people were handled in the United States from the first law that was passed in Indiana in nineteen seven Soon, thirty states would pass laws that basically allowed you to forced sterilization upon someone who you felt was. Not, genetically suitable to bear children who would not be conducive to the interests of society These were now as you can imagine, they started doing this Taking people from their homes for whatever reason doctors could could give this diagnosis institutionalized people people were sent their if their families just didn't like the way they behaved obviously unmarried women who became pregnant were often. Targets of this as well and then again as I said the disabled were immediately targeted by these laws. but you could put people, institutions, sterilize them, and then. You're done There were legal challenges that immediately arose as these laws were passed throughout the country and the decision that we've talked about before. Buck v Bell in Nineteen Twenty seven by the Supreme Court kind of put it to rest. There was a young woman named Carrie Buck, who is being held in an institution. Again, for this diagnosis feeble minded her mother had also been diagnosed with this and carry had become pregnant out of wedlock. which was already a strike against her at this time it also was probably the result of a sexual assault. So after she had her child, they institutionalized her and said, you know her mother was feeble minded she's feeble minded. This child probably is. And the doctors there felt like this would be the case to take to the supreme. Court. This would be the case that they could use to lay the groundwork to allow these forced sterilizations in the United States for his as many reasons as they wanted so. The this court was chow. This case was challenged. It did go to the Supreme Court and the final decision as quoted by all window homes three generations of imbeciles is enough and so they decided that it is okay if in the interest of the state, we need to sterilize someone. With disabilities with Lower. Cognitive ability. And it opened the door for with undesirable skin color whatever our decision is we are allowed to do that in an eight to one decision and so as of Nineteen, twenty seven. It became. Easy for states to to begin to engage in this activity. There's a lot more to talk about, but let's let's take a quick before we do. Probably, the happiest you've ever been to hear marketing messages. The here in this brief oasis of commercialism. Let's.
"forced" Discussed on Sawbones: A Marital Tour of Misguided Medicine
"I don't want to have any more kids. There was initially this thought well, like after they have the kid maybe you could do a hysterectomy, just remove their uterus and then that person doesn't have to have anymore children that was kind of the first thought of like a surgical infertility procedure. In eighteen. Eighty. In Toledo Ohio Dr Longer ended the first what we know as a Tubal ligation procedure. So instead the tubes tied well, there are different ways you can go about Ed when we say tubes tied I, think a lot of people assume like they just cut him and tie time off. initially, you could just cauterize them. So a lot of these early procedures were actually removing the tubes in a sense they were destroying the tubes. So you could remove the tubes, you destroy the tubes, you could clued them with clips. There are a lot of different ways to accomplish this goal in the early procedures it was easiest just to destroy them. cauterize them and and again, the procedure has undergone many many changes since then but the idea is that we are including blocking off these tubes to permanently remove fertility. Other methods of birth control like oral contraceptives and the shot that you can get the depot shot didn't come along until the fifties. So tubal ligation was an option before it was that and we had condoms and barrier methods and things but we didn't have these other medications that were easier to take and more widely applicable in. and. Yeah. Exactly. Let's permanent than the fifties The. eugenics movement of the early nineteen hundred saw these procedures and thought. Okay, we can use this new technology this new surgical procedure to. Stop people from having children. Initially. Like I said, they had just encourage people not to. have. Sex. That didn't work. So then they tried to pass laws to prevent certain types of marriages that they thought would produce inadequate offspring. that doesn't work because sex and marriage are not the same thing..
"forced" Discussed on Sawbones: A Marital Tour of Misguided Medicine
"Germany and a lot of people are saying see like this is proof but I think the the important thing to understand is we were doing s book before Nazi Germany existed. Right so we've talked about this some on our eugenic episode because all of this is tied into the history of eugenics It's just the two were pretty inextricable but I wanna go I want to specifically focus on how we have used the procedures that will Infertility whether we're talking about things like to bully Gatien's or hysterectomies or the sect amies what some sort of procedure so that the person who has had it performed can no longer. Give birth or Have a child. Parent to child. Okay. So if you haven't, if you're not aware there is a a nurse at Georgia. Detention Facility. Named Don Wootton who has revealed that in the last I think four years multiple. Patients there. Multiple clients there I guess multiple. Of those who have been incarcerated have been subject to hysterectomies, which already is a little shocking. Because that isn't even if you were seeking a procedure to stop fertility, you typically are going to have a hysterectomy performed real quick to historic to remove the uterus and perhaps also ovaries. It depends but. That is not usually if you're going in specifically if you have a uterus and you have ovaries and Philippine tubes and you're going to have a surgical procedure. Only so that you will not have children solely to stop the ability of you having children. You wouldn't need to remove all of that to do that. You could do something called A to lie Gatien which is a way of just simply blocking off the Philippian tubes so that the sperm cannot fertilize the egg. You don't need to remove everything, which is a much more invasive procedure with a lot. especially if you're a the ovaries with a lot of other. kind of medical things you need to do a lot of follow up and management afterward..
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"forced" Discussed on Thank God I'm Atheist
"And we're going to send that to you. That's our way of saying thank you and doesn't matter level support any new new new new patron. Just be sure that you put a note when you when you sign up you send us a note to send us a note with your address and And request the toilet paper and you will get it. It's a weird thing to do but we're doing it. Yeah thanks guys while. Supplies lasts a lot but while supplies. We'd been hoarding it. Not The whole warehouse full of it. So don't worry about it. We're done I happened to come into a case of toilet paper and I was this again. We're going to get to you. Yeah thanks cow. Right thanks everybody. Stick around Dan frank. We're living in a time of of forced isolation. Yeah and So we're we're having to give up a lot of things that we normally do that we normally enjoy we. It's very odd. We you and I a lot of people. Everybody's giving up a lot. Yeah you and I are giving up like you is it now. You're not even supposed to be here. Oh I know what you're talking about Yeah we We had a trip plan to Australia. David Ed We were going to leave. Well when the show actually is is being Is Dropping or whatever you WANNA say when it's being posted online that's that's about when we were gonNA leave on Saturday And and that has been completely cancelled and were fortunately the airline is it. Sounds like we're going to get all of our money back for the tickets and all of that and we're getting money back from the hotels and and Whatnot. But yeah there's a little less major bummer We were going because Dave worked in Australia for like three years and has a lot of friends and we were. GonNa go visit them. Yeah and it's a real hard to plan a big trip like that and it is an months of preparation and landing and all this stuff and then it's just gone. Just Gone I. I have a couple of trips planned. We've already cancelled the first one which is to a nice little John over to New Orleans. I was excited about that. I've been there for a long time. Yeah that's dead in the water. No blood going anywhere near that state. Are you kidding me? Yeah no kidding and then I got a big other trip to South America plan. That's probably dead too. You know depending on the time line but I'm pretty sure it's gone. That was Andrew his whole family. That was like my entire inlaws. None of them ever get to go anywhere. Oh God and the you know this was they were. They've been saving their chuckles for years to do this thing. Yeah and it's looking like we're probably not GONNA be able to go on a bummer. So it's like. Yeah we're in a time where everybody's we're we're giving shit up and we're doing it because you know those of us who are responsible not religious attending Dick Heads we want. We want to save as many lives as we can. We want to make sure that this thing I mean Donald Trump just did just made an announcement that you know like if we don't fly I think he's like good goal was only two hundred and fifty thousand deaths. Yeah the model that he's been looking at There's a a scenario on there where it could be as few as one hundred thousand and that's what he was originally saying. I think you're right. I think he's now talking about a slightly higher number the issue is that like what I've heard about. It is that we're not doing everything that we need to do to even hit the number that he's talking about. We need more states to be on total lockdown. We need more people taking it totally seriously. And I. I don't know about you guys out there but like I look around. I don't see I see a lot of people taking it. Well actually you don't really see the people who are taking it seriously the truth you. You only see the people who aren't taking it seriously but I mean the streets are empty and so obviously there are. There's a lot of people taking it very seriously and you go to the supermarket and I've started seeing masks and whatnot. And that's apparently the next big is. We're going to be ordered to wear masks worn public so right and you know. Here's the thing It's inconvenient and madness inducing as we talked about last week and it's tricky and a lot of people's relationships are getting a little rocky because this is not how we're used to living our lives. Yeah but I I want to say and I mentioned this to you as we were sort of prepping for this segment and you sound very skeptical of this comment. But I think that there's a way to do this mindfully because when we talked about the whole The giving things up for lent a couple a few weeks ago We were talking about. There might be something positive in giving something up now. We're being forced to give up a lot. We're being forced to give up our freedom or we can't go to a movie for Christ's SAKE WE CAN'T. We can't go out to the arts. You can't go to a museum. You can't go to the library and check out a book. There's a lot that we are giving up I just wonder you know. I think I think we've all thought of this but it is an opportunity. It is there to just sort of check in with. Who are we without those things right and who you know and and can this be a time? When new healthy habits are formed or when new Good ideas come to us. You know I I talked about you. Know tried painting and I've tried a few things. I think it's just an opportunity to to look at your life and sort of you know. The sketch has been shook. And you know once we get over the initial shock of it which you would. I were saying we you know. Initially we were about. We were both having a pretty rough time as we settle in I think we can look at it as a play. I don't know what do you think I don't know possibility I. I've never really been able to draw anything with those little dials like. I've always found that to be really really quite difficult. Tan Joke No God what do I want to make something of of this whole moment Put too much pressure on ourselves. You don't have to a Dalai Lama type or you know what's the whole thing Shakespeare wrote. What did he right during the plague? Oh Oh God. The story goes right. Yeah King Lear I think yeah So like I mean I had ideas of like well you know like maybe I maybe I could like get the camera out. And you know practice a little And shoot some some stuff and Dave. Dave suggested that I. I've filmed the squirrels that run along on her on the fence. Binder or else just like you should start a web. Webcam Squirrel Squirrel Cam. I mean to be honest. There are so many in the yard next to us go but nonetheless like just just do something just a I need to. I do need to sort of apply myself onto some kind of Hobby I think the other side of this. This whole thing is like I am working from home right and when you I. I'm sure a lot of people have who are working from home have have discovered this. This thing of where black use my time? Well right doesn't really take hours a day right. Yeah it takes a day because there are people around me who want to talk and talk and one brashly turns out. Maybe don't need to talk. They could have just sent it to me in email because that's how it's working right now and it's like things are running. Fine you know I wonder how many companies are just GONNA be like. Oh we didn't think this would be good We're all going to be a home working from home from now on. That's just how we do this now. My boss asked me. She's like how do you like working from home and I'm and I'm like I didn't want to be too like Oh my God. It's amazing you know. I'm like you know like it's I find that I'm pretty productive and I'm trying to keep a nice routine and I it sits. It's fine I just wish the world wasn't falling apart around me you know right And and I think that's probably adding stress onto the whole thing to be honest Totally like it's not like normal working from home I think that like one good thing about working from home right now would be I don't have anything else to do right. And that would be the case. Normally like I would be like. Ooh I get some coffee you know. Go Run some errands and it's like. There are no errands to run this like. I have nothing to do but sit down in the morning and to start working but but but so that fills my day and I do feel. There's a little less work and obviously I don't need eight hours and everything but like that has me kind of that. Has to be a little occupied. Actually have a little Little freelance gigs. That I'm I'm doing at the moment is also you know taking up some time and everything so I have things. And there's there's the podcast which is taking up. You know ends up taking up a good. You know the the recording time and there's always a couple hours of proud and then I have to edit it so that takes up a good number of hours and so like I. I'm not going crazy from lack of of stuff to do. I'm sort of just right now. Picking myself up from kind of a spiral of just general blew. Ns of like things just felt like they were getting worse and worse. Like you turn on the news or you know I- euphemistically mystically turn on the news You look at the news and read what's going on and it's it's like Holy Shit. I'm just keeps piling on and and I think that was taking some emotional toll and now it's like okay. You know as much as this can can feel normal. You know. It's maybe it's not normal but it's it's my new routine and it's starting to feel like a routine and I settling into it so I don't feel unsettled. I guess actually. Oh that's good. Which is really good because I was really starting to feel pretty just like and do something right and that and that's a start feeling all boo and I just find something to do at this point so I think that there's actually a lot of good advice and just that it just like when you start to feel really blew. The last thing you want to do is anything. Yeah but it's a really good idea to just do thing. Yeah it like just occupy yourself go for a walk just move your body occupy your brain right. Yeah settling into the funk settling into the sadness settling into the The despair that's definitely the worst option. Yeah but I mean to to your question. Am I going to come out on the other side of this? A better person probably not right. I don't know it's just one of those things where it's like..
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"forced" Discussed on Thank God I'm Atheist
"So Dan Cronin virus. Obviously it's all current virus all the time right now and It's really also seems to be the case also for religious types. It's they can talk about right. There's this times or it's the it's the. It's what they're fighting. I yeah it's it's it's great fodder for them. Everybody's terrified that's what they love and you know that that comment that's coming in like a couple of weeks just for real right. Did you hear about this? Read something about it. Yeah so like you know I. I'm just waiting for that to be spun into all of this is an in time sign But anyway well Kurt Landry. Dan Do we know. Do We know this name. I've seen recently before and I don't recognize the guy but we got. We got some good faith leaders out there. There's plenty it's it's an unending. Well well he has he has. This guy has got a warning for assault. And he does so. Let's just let's let's hear what is warning is all about. I'm telling you right now. Do Not Pray. Do not hope. Do Not saying Oh praise God. They're going to have a vaccine. That vaccine is from the pit of Hell. Okay do not pray for those vaccines and do not take the vaccine. These vaccines are coming. They're not going to be good. They're not good for you physically and spiritually. They're a setup for what show come later. This is the first step. This is not the mark of the beast this is not the ID chip but what will happen with this and this is the order. I believe it will happen. Is they're going to bring this next vaccine and they're gonNA mark not in the in the hand in the forehead but on a they're going to have a computer record of everybody who does take the vaccine but more importantly they're gonNA take the ones that do not and basically the ones that won't take the vaccine will be the Jews and the Christians because we have religious issues to not it and so what a way to kind of gather those names up and gather those people and so then when it does time for the Mark Obese to trade and sell those that in order to get the mark of the beast what will happen is in order to for them to put the chip in. You're going to have to prove Verification Verification. That you've had these vaccines and then if you won't take the vaccines then you don't get the Mar- you can kind of figure out where that goes. All this is premature. I'm not trying to scare you but I have to tell you right now. This is where it's going. Oh good well you know as uncle mark on the how to heretic likes to say all that makes sense Man He that is some strong thinking right there. I didn't like the idea of fight for for the fact that people might be listening to this guy. Well Yeah it's I mean it's one of those things where they are trying to thin their own heard and I don't know why it's like it's like literally they're trying to get themselves killed and I see for the life of me. I can't figure out what they're what the end game is on that right and it's is a horrible thing to say if If they do cause problems for their own community okay fine. It's the collateral damage. Yeah it's how it's GonNa just effect these Ding dongs. That's the problem Makes ME CRAZY? Yeah any vaccine makes me nuts and then the beast crap like come on that stuff I love. I mean they're referencing. Have you ever read revelation the book in the Bible? Now I have to at least not highly school highly. Recommend it. Yeah it like you cannot read that book. I don't know how anybody can read that book and think. Oh this was written by the same person about real things because it's not very clearly written by crazy man in a cave somewhere in like on a Grecian Island and he was nut balls and he wrote a bunch of stuff and people have been trying to interpret it ever since. But it's not interpreted. It's a little bit like you know. It's it's literal Gobbledygook. It's amazing anyway. We add some folks. Contact us Our friend Claire wrote to us. She said Hey regarding the let the elderly die so the economy can get going again. Consider this I know three people. Under the age of fifty ages nine thousand nine hundred forty five and forty nine. Who have the virus one of them? A mother of two is fighting for her life in a medically induced. Coma on respirator in the ICU. Five family members of the three sick people are in quarantine the rate the range. They range in age from eighteen. Fifty to all of them have many decades of productive. Working lives to live. I'm pretty sure that would affect the economy. Yeah so so much for letting elderly people die so we can all get back to work because other people besides the elderly can get the virus so true absolutely die. I had a friend who had a good friend of theirs die recently in their forties. Someone who was in other otherwise great health. Geez it's it's not good virus you guys. This is a legit serious thing so stay the fuck at home. Yeah Oh my God. If if there's anything we can say it's just it's kind of the editorial policy of this podcast that you shouldn't do whatever it is. The idiot evangelicals are doing so stay home. We had a voice mail to did. We do have a voice smell Dan. Hey Franken Dan this is Jonathan Collins from Arizona. I'm calling because I couldn't ever but is Romanian with the dogs trips. And the practice of taking communion off of a spoon. I just wanted to point out that this is common practice world so you can count on every Sunday liturgy. They're being literally a hundred billion believers across arocca world Getting their slimy lips all over that one single spoon he needs Paris. That's pretty common And as far as that little lump of funky stuff on the spoon that's actually leavened bread that they just kinda dunk in the wine there in the cup and scoop it out anyway And as far as I can tell there are a lot of churches probably still doing this this very day. The last Sunday in March. So isn't that wonderful? And you know why. It's because and this is a quote from an email that I received from our local bishops saying that Jesus Christ is not a transmitter of disease isn't that Nice So I guess putting into the first with this virus I don't know anyway I love your show and you will be safe by Holy Shit. They're serving soggy wine bread on a spoon. Yeah that is literally you guys have come up with the worst eucharist. Congratulations you've got a price. That is the worst. Is it all possible EUCHARISTIC? So it's a two for one combo like you get both at once. You don't do you get a soggy wine bread. That's so gross. You guys but if if that doesn't gross you out then then don't worry. The delivery method will who I why and the line. Jesus doesn't transmit disease. Does that mean that they believe in trance substantiation must they must thinking soggy? Jesus bread. That's so gross. It's bloodying about Jesus Flesh. That's what it is. Who Eddie Jesus Flesh? Yeah was the name of my band in high school. We are a death metal sort of thing. Jesus Flash. We didn't last very long but we had some good. We had some good cuts. Well we have some people to think and I'm going to go first because to rue. Toru.
"forced" Discussed on Thank God I'm Atheist
"Three different federal judges in three different jurisdictions and each federal judge has So that these Has blocked these orders So this is about Alabama because Alabama law. This is let me see federal judge Myron Thompson. Because Alabama law imposes time limits on women can obtain abortions the march seventeen or. I'm sorry March. Twenty seven order is likely to fully prevent some women from exercising their right to obtain an abortion Yeah Yep you you saw that Situation correctly and then let's see the federal judge Michael Barrett of the southern district of Ohio He says that the Ohio Department of Health's order halting non-essential procedures likely places an undue burden on a woman's right to choose a pre viability abortion and thus violates her right to privacy guaranteed by the Fourteenth Amendment He said that it's enforcement Would per se inflict irreparable harm and the judge down in Texas says the Attorney General's interpretation of the Executive Order Prevents Texas Women From exercising what? The Supreme Court has declared is their fundamental constitutional right to terminate a pregnancy before a fetus is viable And so they saw through these orders. And what you know These people were trying to do and should just occasions for them and stuff. Yeah just this opportunistic. You know just like you know disgusting attempt to use a moment of crisis right to As just another assault on women's rights and yeah yeah it's not the end of these sorts of things but it's good to see three judges all just concurrently. No no that's stupid. You can't do that. That is good to see. And a little bit shocking. To be perfectly honest it at this point. That feels surprising. At least one of these I remember from the article was George W Bush appointee when he was president. I guess Signal maybe to to these. Peop- Project assholes that maybe they're playing won't work yeah. I hope I'm not sure it won't make not gonNA stop but no but there you go. Yeah I I like. I keep thinking about the fact that like Evangelical Christians who are by far the in this country the biggest proponents of trying to to get rid of abortion rights Because they think it's murder. They only had that opinion starting in the eighties right like for decades and decades hundreds of years. They didn't care. It wasn't on their radar as an issue that they cared about and then some politicians got them to care about it so that they could get re elected and now it's now they think you know if you ask them. They think it's been that way forever. Yeah it's it's not like the by the I it's so it's infuriating anyway I am going to move on in New York City in Central Park. There is now a a field hospital that has been set up which we're warzone now apparent. That's what we are over in the famed East Meadow area of New York. And I think that's great but it was set up by a group called Samaritan's purse. Now before you say anything. Yes that is my nickname for my testicles. But it's also a group of a Christian group run by none other than Mr Franklin Graham. So Oh it's great that they're setting up some extra hospital beds some extra help. I think New York certainly needs the help and I'm glad that they're getting it. Here's the problem and this. What a lot of people including New York City Council Speaker Cory Johnson and many others have said. The problem is that Samaritan's purse as an organization requires all of their Their workers including their medical workers all their doctors their nurses and everything to sign an eleven point statement of faith which says among other things that they believe that marriage is exclusively the union of one genetic male and one genetic female. Oh God so the. Lgbt community is very rightly wondering aloud. Hey are they actually going to help us because fair question? It's a fair fucking question now. Of course this sparked outrage in Mr Graham who couldn't believe that anyone would even ask the question and said we provide our services to everyone regardless of wraiths race ethnicity religion sexual orientation. We don't discriminate period. Except that you do accept that the whole reason we're bringing it up is because you very clearly do now. He's making a distinction between like. We don't do we discriminate only for people that we hire not for people retreat. It's a little hazy. That's a bit hazy of question when you discriminating against one I will get reasonable for us to question and you know to be honest like and if that's sort of your pa you're hiring policy. How is that going to trickle down to the patients as far as like even okay so you do take care of you know gay people or Trans People or whatever You know what whoever comes in. Because you don't discriminate right right but really. You've just hired an entire workforce that agrees with that statement like they're going to treat these people. Well they make treat their symptoms but they're gonNA also walk around them and trying to convert them from their sinful ways you you've hired staff of bigots and I'm supposed to believe that they're going to work just as hard to save a drag flamboyant drag queen as they are to save some churchgoing whatever. I don't think I have that much confidence yet. That's an interesting thing how you know. God forbid there's a situation where they have to make one of these ethical decisions like right say who who gets the life saving treatment or not right. Yeah you've got if you've got an old woman who's Inter Inter nineties or in her eighty s who happens to be wearing across around her neck. Are you keeping her on the ventilator or you giving it to the young gay person or the Young Trans Person? Right you know. It's like one of those things where these ethical questions are not easy ever and when it comes down to like who you know. One person's going to get to live in one person is definitely going to die. That's that's that's the hardest thing a medical professional has to face and God bless them all for even taking it on. Yeah but yeah. I don't trust these people to do that. Gross Franklin Graham. Go Fuck Yourself. Well he doesn't have to. He's got a pool boy for that all right. Dan. Here's a decision. Probably a good one right decision. I I know coming out of Saudi Arabia source of good decisions. Not to be a flowing fond of the best decision making the the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia Right They have They've taken the extraordinary decision. to close off We've heard about this the holy cities of Mecca and Medina. Right Right This this is That was a big deal. They did that back in February Apparently this hasn't been done Since the nineteen eighteen Spanish flu right right And so big deal big deal will. Now they're saying to Anybody that's planning on doing hajj pilgrimage to write to Mecca They're saying stay home. Don't come Ou- that's essentially they're telling one million More than a million Muslims who would be coming to delay their plans this year And and that's that's nuts. Yeah 'cause I was meant to be in in like July right like this year. I was kind of scouring this article for when and it doesn't really say just sort of assume and just good old it's July twenty eighth through August second so that I mean it's the right thing to do. It's probably far enough away that they could have like said we'll play by ear but it's good that they are. Yeah that's a that's really great. I guess that is kind of what they're doing. They're saying don't book anything yet right. Oh interesting They're they're saying that Yeah don't don't come. Don't plan on coming But if everything clears up Yeah Okay. You can come. That's amazing how am I God? It's you know I want to get the takeaway is always the same. We've been saying this for a couple of weeks now but it's just like your faith is meaningful until real things happen and then it's like Jackson's dip shits in the south with their churches right. Hey they're the ones that re the truly believe in God bless them and we'll see them in the next life because they'll get there before we do. Yeah I'm going to tell talk about now the churches that aren't meeting anymore. At least not person. Are we sending out Kudos? Well maybe more condolences. Here's the thing not all. Churches have been set up for online church. But they want to do it. Now's the time now. They're they're trying to be responsible. They're trying to say don't come to church. We'll come to you. Yeah and we'll do it because this is the information age. We got the Internet. Now baby we can do whatever we gotta do. Y'All got high speeds that can deliver a high Good good video conferencing for just like they're doing zoom. Yeah I mean so. Many of them are doing are out there doing zoom. Here's the problem with Zoom. If you say hey everybody at our church we're going to. We're not doing church. Don't COME TO CHURCH BUT WE'RE GONNA do it on zoom. Everybody can show up. We'll be able to see each other's faces. Well there are people who are not good actors in the world there are. There's a whole lot of people with computers. And lots of time on their hands and they've been zoom bombing the the church services. What does that mean? It means that? Not Everybody is savvy about how they set up a zoom conference and so like file sharing can be a thing and so people are sending around horrible messages or like are they. Everybody's faces allowed to be on there. Maybe it's not somebody's face that suddenly in front of a camera. Apparently Church services have been because you get to be anonymous so genitals are showing up and apparently a synagogue was crashed by Nazis. That's that's Shitty. That's not that's not funny. That's not funny at all but like a funny funny. Apparently one live streamed church service was hacked and replaced with. Porn has pretty good. I want to be clear I am saying don't do this. Don't do to our listener. No that's do do not do this. It's not nice. Might be funny. But it's not Nice Online. Trolling in general. Unless you're clever and not mean it's it's it's never funny and it's never cool and it's stupid. I'm whatever most of it is really stupid. Most of its hateful and the ad every now and then some of it's clever right but but you don't do this but the churches are having to learn the techs fast because because that's the world we live in. What if you'd like just got into one of these things like you know you're there you're faces there and everything and then like you just like got like translated like the right moment like you got you got raptured right right on camera. Oh my God. That'd be so amazing could you? Somebody should set it up so that they literally like have thirty or forty people who are all in a zoom church and then one by one they just people just start. Get wrestling up raptures. Everybody else's left to go. Wait wait until here. Oh okay do that one capacity. Don't tell the other stuff but if you have the ability if you have the tech savvy and the know how and a bunch of good friends who will be willing to do it. Set it up pack in do whatever you gotTa do. Make it good. Oh it's gotTa be good gotta be recorded and then everything will be good in the world speaking of Zoom. I'M GONNA I'm GonNa jump something in here. Oh you and I have been trying to. We've been brainstorming. Yeah about ways to connect with our listeners while this whole shit is happening and I was thinking that we should do something like a zoom. Meet up let's do it. So here's here's what I'm thinking. Everybody who wants to be part of the zoom. Meet up because I I don't. I WANNA learn a lesson from these churches..
"forced" Discussed on Thank God I'm Atheist
"Everybody hi guys well from beautiful solitude in. Salt LAKE CITY UTAH. It's thank God. I'm atheist podcast. I'm Frank Feldman and I'm Dan Beecher and coming up today Dan you know what a few weeks ago on the show we talked about lent and give up and how that might be good for us. We don't know here's the thing early. The Lord wasn't getting enough play with left and decided to like all right fine. Everybody's giving up a lot. You're on lent your home until further notice bitches. Oh my God. This corona virus has US letting everybody has so. We're GonNa talk about what we what we've given up relent against our will and And what that might be That's really sick on this. This is that no kidding listeners. We're recording Franken. I are in the same city but different worlds different bunkers. So yeah all right well. Dan. Yeah I have a story coming out of Sacramento California secto Sacramento County to be precise Where health officials have linked Roughly one third of Corona virus cases to church gatherings what yes so totally shaw or not. Maybe or not. Because I've got some stories coming up but yes go on please I need. There's not too much more than that. They Is How did they do it? Because they've been tracing stuff back. Okay there You know just like you know most of of the country at this point They are under sort of a general lockdown situation safer at home or whatever type And California says there's a statement from in a press release says Sacramento County is urging and not just because the public health order calls for it all residents from all faiths and all backgrounds to stay home lives in our communities depend on it. It's it's discussing that this has to be said the churches for whatever reason I think they're essential and and here's the thing if you're a person of faith fine. Your faith is central to you right right. If that's how if that's what. Your World View is. That doesn't mean that you have to like like these fucking pastors think. They're just like the center of the Universe Right. And then if somebody skips church once the soul is doomed forever or whatnot just to put this into into a little bit of perspective. Even my pence vice president pence right. Mr Won't go into the same room with a woman because he's because he's terrified of Jesus yes can but whatever this guy. He says that churches should limit gatherings to ten people. Yeah right like this. This is a blanket rule. And there's absolutely no reason that as a person of faith you don't you you have to somehow find yourself disconnected from whatever deity you feel like you have a connection with right. Just just modify how you're doing it. Guess what that actual like fictional. God will understand. I promise you write the Goddamn virus. Why would he be mad at you for avoiding it? Because it's a test Dan. It is a test of your faith. Are you going to show up or not Dan? It's an intelligence test when times get tough Dan. Are you going to? Are you going to be a quitter? Or you're going to be a man of faith Dan and you're gonNA keep going to church. I mean that's what that's that's a no. As a matter of fact easy heard my God. That's great I mean that's exactly what we would have expected and I'm going to let that be the transition point to my story which is actually a collection of stories. I we don't have time on the show to do all of the stories about idiot religious people gathering together on facebook just today. I'm actually not being on facebook but I I have to go and check in on like you know little things. The members only lounge that sort of thing. I don't check in much but right now I'm not doing the facebook thing like I used to but but I happened to see one thing. It was A in it not in Utah but in Provo which is sort of like. That'S IN UTAH. I meant not in Salt Lake. Okay I yeah it is in your top definitely in Utah and Utah County. Which is the worst hugh human pilots? Imagine first of all the counties and they it was a group of people sitting together under these tents just showing that they still have their freedom and defying. These overreaching law governor governors in whatever it was just like. Yeah this you gotTa know what this is four right. It's not about controlling you. It's about saving people's lives but there you go So I'm going to take us to a few places first of all Texas where Robert Pastor Robert Jeffers who is a Dick Dick. He's he's sort of in the inner sanctum with Donald Trump And just one of the worst guys ever He. A couple of weeks ago said quote. I know some people are saying well the NBA is cancelling games. Why don't you cancel church services what we do is more important than what the NBA is doing right He goes on to say that worship is essential that that was a couple of weeks ago when we all knew that this shouldn't be what he's saying right now. He's singing a different tune and saying quote there are few fanatical nut jobs among evangelicals right. Now who are doing stupid things like holding mass church services and promising they will heal anybody who has corona virus. Yeah Dude that's exactly your line two weeks ago. Yeah anyway so that was one thing but the one I really wanted to get to is a Florida pastor. It has to be Florida right. It had to be named Rodney Howard. Browne pastor of the river at Tampa Bay church who have heard of this church before. Have you talked about this church before? Yeah it wouldn't surprise me. He was absolutely adamant that everybody gets to go to church. No matter what so even though There was a an order in place. The saying that people couldn't gather in groups of more than probably ten or whatever it was brand he was gonNA keep his church open and he did and the idiots of course showed up like between four hundred and five hundred people came to church. Oh my God and he was. Arrested is what's Great. He was out he was arrested the US booked and charged with what was it terrorism. Right this is also a Guy. He also bicycle. Basically he also said that faith. If you have enough faith your toilet paper will multiply and your food will multiply that is biblical right. He's not like just making that shit up right. You come up with that that that sounds like the Bible I remember. Yeah absolutely. Oh here's what. He was charged with unlawful assembly and violation of public health. Emergency rules. And then here's another. Here's another kicker because it's rare enough it I mean. It is absolutely unheard of for a purse of a faith leader in this stupid country to get in trouble for basically anything but not only. Was He arrested? Then they're more on governor down there in Florida. Decided that church services religious services were essential activities. So the he modified the order so that those are those are counted. Does this essential activities and and you can't be arrested anymore so then people ask. The sheriff's office will so as he out is brown out of trouble. Howard Brown. That's his last name He out of trouble and they were like nope he did it before that happened. This is not a retroactive order. He's still under he. He's he's still been arrested and charged Nice. Good so there you go. Some there are some people who are actually facing a tiny bit of trouble. There's a report of a guy in Louisiana. It's I mean it's not like Louisiana is an insane hotbed of this deadly disease. Right or anything. It's not like it's one of the hot spots in the country or anything but yeah he is determined that he's going to keep all of his churches open and he and so he has. He's been bussing people into his church. If it wasn't his name so here responsible for the larger community that surrounds them. Here I would just be like I would I would gleefully let them get each other sick but that's not a good thing. Yeah Yeah it's not about them. It's about everyone around them them spreading it and it's about this cavalier attitude which can also be contagious. Right if you have this attitude that like you know what I went to church and it didn't affect me none so probably just bullshit and then and then you say that to enough people and they stop like S- keeping themselves at home and then you've got and then things get worse. Yeah and the curve remains unflattering. Yeah I know but I really do want these scofflaws to get sick. I just do. I think it's just it's the Just you know justice right. Instant Karma like you'll walk instant Karma you want you want results but it's just be accepted that's not how Karma actually works the way Karma actually works is. It doesn't work out all what happens. Is that a bunch of Scofflaw idiots get together and then somebody nice. Who's been working really hard to be careful. Happens to pass one of them when they have to go back to the grocery store and then they've got it and they're the ones who die right absolutely. There's no such thing as Karma that's bullshit that's the takeaway for for this week's show. Go night everybody okay. That's not true Coming up now. You got more stories written Dan. You know sometimes You know in a in a in a moment such as such as this people like to take advantage of the moment right yes and So this is the story of three states that we're trying to and I believe there are more that have tried this but it's specifically about Alabama Ohio and Texas That issued orders that would have limited abortion access. Do Right and it was all couched in this whole thing about like how these are. It's ninety central and the one of the most disgusting I read today. It was talking about how you know. We'll advocates for abortion. They call it a choice. We're not we're not the ones calling it a choice like you trying to be now know that I mean it is a choice in the same way that like taking care of other parts of your health is a choice like right choice. They're saying there's no but anyway so these These three states we're trying this And very quickly went before some federal judges In three different federal judges in three different jurisdictions and.
"forced" Discussed on Reset
"I find rashawn story. Incredibly powerful and if there is forced labor in the supply chain of the products. We're using every day. No one really wants to be complicit in that. So what should we do? Should we be trying to boycott Chinese products? If that's even possible. Is it a mistake to offload the responsibility onto the consumer? Maybe this is the government's responsibility. I talked to someone who reports on these questions. Bethany Allen Abrahamian a China reporter at axios. I think there's two ways to look at this. I mean there's there's kind of You know who has responsibility? Should it be? And I think that's a little bit of a maybe an ideological question depending on one's view of the role of government but beyond that there's the pragmatic side. So let me give you an example of what I mean by the pragmatic side. I as someone who has followed Sheen Jong for almost a decade and his very familiar with the gross human rights violations. That have been occurring. There I am you know. Far More aware of this issue than the average American consumer so one of the products that is most deeply tainted by forced labour among the weaker community in China is cotton products textiles. I have personally decided or a few months ago. I decided that I would stop buying any cotton product that was made in China and this was essentially impossible. It was extremely difficult to find anything you know. Sometimes I could find something made in Vietnam are made in Bangladesh But you know if I wanted the right size the right color the right you know what I was looking for. It was essentially impossible. I would have had to switch to shopping at thrift stores in order to not participate in that supply chain the problem. Here is that the supply chains around so many products are so globalized in so intricate. So there could be a little piece here a little piece there from a different part of a product whether that's a tech product or a clothing item or shoe and it's almost impossible to trace if it goes back to a particular factory. It's very difficult especially for consumer to to be able to trace this back in fact it's not just difficult for the consumer. It's incredibly difficult for these specific. Us Government Office. That is tasked with this very job. And that is the forced labor division at the at C B p the customs and Border Protection Office in the Department of Homeland Security and its job is to look for to trace back supply chains and to find that culpability to find that factory. That's making those goods with forced labor. But how do they prove that link how how does the forced labor division proved that something was made using forced labor in any country where there's I labor that country is very likely that locality is very likely to make it difficult or impossible for outside people to come in and do audits or reviews so it is very difficult so they rely on Reporters they rely on NGO reports. But that's not enough. They have to have you know legally verifiable precise links and I. I just want to emphasize again that it that it's actually illegal for any product that has been made us in whole or in part using forced labor to enter the United States to be imported that is illegal and any US company that has caught doing that You know with knowledge of doing that Is Committing a crime? Do you think but also the companies that are implicated in this new report. Should they be conducting human rights due diligence on the factories and their supply chain in China and get kind of independent audits so that they can prove to themselves and to the public that their products are not tainted by forced labor? They should but this is the. This is really the crux of the problem. And that is that independent audits really aren't possible in a lot of situations In China I think it's it's really really difficult to know. And so there's an interesting solution That to lawmakers are on this week are going to propose a solution Bethany flip please. This new bill which is called the Wieger Forced Labor Prevention Act. If it's passed it will essentially require. It will put the onus on companies. So there's an the bill. If passed will make an assumption that all products coming out of Xinjiang in in these certain categories are made with Labor and it is up to the companies that went to import those products to prove that they are not made with forced labor and that seems like a very good solution. Because it's just not possible for C. B. P. to do this massive amount of research. They would need a much larger team than they have. What do you think the chances are of the weaker of forced labour prevention? Act Passing. This does put a big onus on on company is it creates a lot of work for them and it will very likely force many of them to remove to get their supply chains out of China. That's expensive and difficult And I don't think that you know companies are necessarily going to be super excited about that so I think you're probably going to see some lobbying against this law are there any other long-term protections for the workers and other ethnic minorities in China that you can envision beyond the sort of legislation that we just talked about well yes in fact the US government just a few years ago passed a pretty tough law that was written specifically for situations like this. The Global Magnitsky Act created a an expedited way to levy sanctions on foreign government officials and foreign government entities that are complicit in gross human rights violations. No this is specifically and exactly the kind of thing that law was created. Four and yet the. Us government has not used that law to levy sanctions on the Chinese government officials and government entities that we all know to be complicit in the mass detention camps in the forest labor and the reason for that is essentially some within the administration went to preserve all of their leverage or most of their leverage for trade and for trade negotiation so given that backdrop that you know we've been watching over the past couple of years. How hopeful do you feel now that this whole crisis the internment camps the forced Labor in factories? That's GONNA stop soon. Do you think we are nearing the end of this nightmare. Or is that too optimistic? Sadly I think that is too optimistic. We haven't really seen the Chinese government seriously walking back their policies. I don't see that improving until the Chinese government really faces true until they bleed for tried until they're really made to bleed for it on the international stage. I don't think that they will be motivated to to stop. What they're doing. Bethany Allen Abrahamian China reporter at axios. Thanks so much for your time. Thanks so much for having me Seagal. We reached out to apple for comment. They sent us a statement which reads in part. We assess our suppliers including with surprise. Audits evaluating over five hundred criteria to ensure compliance with our code of conduct and to identify improvement areas. We have zero tolerance for forced labor of any kind and we have found no evidence that forced labor exists in our supply chain. But we are continuing to investigate. This is reset. And I'm Seagal Samuel. If you WANNA follow me on twitter you can find me at Seagal Samuel. You can also reach the reset team by emailing reset at Fox Dot Com. We publish episodes three times a week on Tuesdays Thursdays and Sundays. If you haven't already subscribe to the podcast you can find us on Apple podcasts. Stitcher or favorite podcast APP. And if you like what you hear rate and review us on Apple podcasts. It really helps. We'll be back on Sunday later nerds..