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"folsom" Discussed on Bear Grease
"Drugs, some of them to butcher would have been right, right. And so, but when you're butchering, you got your hand on the stone knife. You've got your hand on the scraper. So you're not going to lose that, right? Understood. So, but that's the stuff that you're going to very carefully curate and take with you onto the next place. Because that's part of your toolkit. So that explains why your team wouldn't have found any points because you guys were, I think where the main excavations had taken place in the 1920s, pretty much removed the principal kill area. We were excavating. And we know this partly by looking at the bones. What we were finding were discard piles, where carcass parts that were not nobody's going to transport a bison skull. They had no use for it. It's too heavy. There's no use for it. And once you chop the tongue out and we know they did that at the spot, you don't need the jaws either. So they're just throw that off to the side. So we were excavating where they were just pushing off the stuff to the side that they were not going to transport. I had some more questions about the kill. Here's Steve. How many people do you think would have been there to have done that? I think no one knows. It couldn't have been not a hundred. No. I think it was a probably a major kill, man. It's interesting that they were able to do that. Because one of the things about return when we were talking about just the very low population density of people. And the isolation of it. And the fact that they seem to wander a lot. These guys in false New Mexico are carrying tool stone from the Texas Panhandle. You could say, oh, they had this trade route and traded it. Or they went there and got it. And he wandered around. And they kept down the move and they hunted animals that experience no hunting pressure. That they were disperse and moved and they'd find animals in that group of animals. There's no experience with humans. Is that we know that means a lot in terms of the ability for a human to kill an animal for them to not have figured out what was going on. It might have been just that these are just animals very little exposure to humans and perhaps very easily manipulated by humans. You can get real close to them. You can kind of make a half around and nudge them along. They're not immediate like, you see one of those things on two legs. I don't care what you're doing. You got there. Perhaps they're responding to the human predators, no differently than they'd respond, then how we see the same species respond to wolves, which is a bunch of. Maybe when approached by a bunch of bipedal predators, these bipedal predators could just mimic the activity of wolves, kind of get roughly around them, they sort of bunch up and then you kind of like gently nudge them along and nudge them into this thing and then nudge them up this canyon and when they can't get away start killing them. Maybe like a walk in the park. But here's your thing. Maybe that day because there's not tons of these sites. It's like it's hard nothing lasts that long. Or it's 20 feet under sand and gravel. Whoever there's not a lot of these sites to compare it to. Or as far as we know, those people talked about that day for the rest of their lives. As the weirdest day that ever happened. Wow. They're like, no, man, I'm telling you, dude. Do you remember that one time? They just were up in there. I don't know what they were doing. I never seen anything like it. My dad never saw anything like it, or it was just another day, you know. When you get in any kind of like some sort of statistical thing, if you only find one thing, you have to assume that you're looking at something special happen. At the other point that let's say that at some point in time, someone was going to freeze an American household. Here's an American household frozen in place. What are the odds that volume the American household that 11 p.m. that you would have frozen place a murder in progress? Or would it have more likely have been some people in their living room watching TV? It's like, it's just more likely that you would have catch just this randomized American household at 11 p.m. that you'd catch some sort of thing that seemed normal. The rather than like, oh my God. This one's spectacular. He's murdering each other at 11 at night because he captured the spectacular event in isolation. So you look at like this one thing. We don't have many of them. There's one thing. You have to go like, I don't know, man. There's these people out there, they're killings of all time. Here's this pretty well preserved scenario where they killed stuff. I'm just gonna have to go on the assumption that this is like indicative of what these people did. And not that it was a weird day. We've talked about these stone points, but we haven't talked about how they were used to kill the bison. At the time in North America, there were two options for throwing sticks with sharp rocks on the end. Bows and adults here's what doctor melzer had to say. Were these hand projected spears or these ad ladders? Well, so that's something I can not answer. You need a lot of force. Think about a bison, the side of a bison is basically a picket fence of ribs. And they're fairly wide. You've got hair, you've got hide. You've got bone, you've got fat. All that stuff has to get penetrated. The thinking is the suspicion is. And this gets to another one of those things that, well, we just have to infer this because we don't really know that these were either thrust or thrown at high velocity, and we know that in fact, there was some velocity involved because we have what are known as impact fractures. Basically, when bone meat stone at high velocity, the front end, you get some serious front end damage. So the points that they found though were not diagnostic in terms of Atlanta or hand thrusted spear. No, because whether it was thrust or thrown, it's the same size point. You don't regardless of how it happened. It would have had to have been some pretty bad to the bone people to have killed 32 bison. It was a cow calf herd, and the kill took place in the fall. Which is how do we know that? Dental eruption patterns. So bison tend to calve between about mid April and mid may. And their teeth, their molars grow at a fairly regular rate. And these molars are these premolars have already busted over and are on the surface now. You can say, okay, well, it's probably been about four months. So if you go mid April age of the calves that it's the age of the counter that they would have been born in the spring and you've got a bunch of four month old calves that tells you you've got a kill that took place September plus or minus. We're going to halt the conversation right here. It's so interesting to ponder our ancient history as humans. You have to wait for part three to hear the rest of the story. We live in such a weird concoction called time that binds us so tightly to the present it's hard to imagine any other form of life beyond what we experience with their own life. That is. Unless we strain our brains to think back. But maybe it's not a cognitive exercise as much as it is a spiritual one to try to understand ancient man. But a bigger question is why do we care or even want to understand them? And I can not fully answer that. But I am convinced that the lives of these people that left these stone points are still relevant in 2021, regardless of the barrier of time that separates us. We're in the process as a culture of redefining modern humanity, who we are. Why we're here. Why are we so clearly different than the other beasts of this planet? And now the heck did we go from slinging stone tipped spears and bison to driving teslas? Why is there such turmoil in the earth? These are just some of the questions that we have. The Folsom site gives us an indisputable.
"folsom" Discussed on Bear Grease
"On its plaster cast, and you can see the teeth in here. Wow, right? And there's the back of the skull, so that is a bison and tick with skull from the bullshit. Yep, and it's a big and it's pretty wild being in the same room with the skull of a bison antiques. If you want to see a cell phone video, the skull, you can check out my Instagram clay underscore newcombe. Doctor melzer is a unique guy when it comes to Folsom. The site was originally excavated between 1926 and 1928, but 70 years later there were unanswered questions that he knew our modern techniques and technology could now answer. Primarily carbon dating, which we'll talk about more in part three of this series. Like a dramatic movie sequel in 1997, doctor melzer and his team went back to Folsom. They dug up the place again with new questions about the site's geology, its antiquity, which is the site's age. The paleo topography, which is its former geography, and its depositional history, which basically means the layers that covered the site. Here's doctor melzer talking about the uniqueness of the Folsom site. For 50 years, there had been this very heated debate over how long people had been in the Americas and all manner of contenders were put forward. This is evidence that people have been here since the pleistocene. This is evidence that people have been here for 300,000 years. Here's evidence that people have been here for 350,000 years, but in each and every instance those sites failed to prove what they were claimed to prove, and they failed because of various reasons. The artifacts weren't actually artifacts. The artifacts were not in the geological deposits that were said to be that old. The artifacts had rolled downhill and ended up next to ancient animal remains, but they were not necessarily in what we call primary context. That is to say they didn't enter the deposit. At the same time, as those ancient animals enter the deposit. And so you had literally decades of people arguing back and forth over how long people had been in the Americas. When Folsom came along, it was just as advertised. What you had was a spot on the landscape where hunters had confronted and killed a herd of bison. We now know there were about 32 animals that were dispatched that day. And in the process, left behind their artifacts in ways that made it absolutely clear that those animals and those people had been on that very landscape at the same moment in time because we had spear points, what we now know is false and fluted points in direct association with the bones and what I mean by that is we had a projectile point in between ribs. It had sat there since that animal was killed, right? There was no question that that was some sort of adventitious association that somehow a projectile point had worked its way down into the dirt into the earth ten feet below the surface and ended up in between two bison ribs. Right. No, that animal was stabbed by a human, and because that animal was a now extinct form of bison, which went extinct at the end of the pleistocene. That was the first absolutely definitive proof that people had been in the Americas at the end of the pleistocene. The only question remaining after that was how much earlier might they have been? Right. But that's what made fulsome different. It was just as advertised. When you look back at the history of archeology itself as a study, there was an incredible amount of drama and ego involved in the discussion of human antiquity. It was highly competitive regarding who discovered what and where. So it's hard to overstate how important the find was because it was so indisputable. Here's another component of understanding Folsom and archeology that will help us. This is Steve describe into us what is called a type site. A lot of bygone cultures will have a thing called the type site. The type site is where they were identified. When we talk about Folsom hunters, the fulsome culture was identified at, wild horse Arroyo, your fulsome, New Mexico, was when it was first identified. The identifying feature of the Folsom culture. I was called Folsom hunters. And they took the name Folsom simply because that was the English name of the town. Sure, that was probably a brand new town. That has nothing to do as a descriptor of these people. Not at all. Just to keeping in the same state. It's the same point in the same state. When we talk about a Clovis hunter, it just so happens that the projectile points which stand for the hunters that made them were first identified near Clovis, New Mexico. They were there over 10,000 years before anyone even thought to name to make it to the place clothes. We happened to right now doing our conversation about Folsom near shattering Nebraska. Were you and I had to walk out and find holy cow. Look at this insane projectile point. Diagnostic, unfound point. And then we realized it was this whole culture of people and they made this point. They might wind up calling them the shattering hunters. I think they'd call it brunel newcombe. Okay. But if they were consistent with the days of yore, that's what they would wind up name them. Folsom hunters were identified near false New Mexico and so they the name, the nearby town name was applied to the culture. When we talk about a culture atom, like, what do you imagine? A culture of people. We know them when we see them based on the point. With our understanding right now, it's the point. The point has to be present. The projectile point that they like to make has to be present, meaning, if we know that the wholesome culture was active, 11,700 years ago. If you went down to South Florida and found a human campsite from 11,700 years ago that had a different projectile point, you wouldn't call it a Folsom site. Okay, so it's not two. Yeah, it's not when it's who and when. It describes a culture just like the culture of us to drive Chevrolet pickups. Sure, and there's another culture in France that drives some other kind of pickup. The Folsom culture is identified by the type of technology they use when making stone points, but this culture was also associated with something else, much bigger. They were tightly associated with a relics form of bison called bison antiques. Not something that went extinct, a relic form of the animal that lives here now. It was bigger, had different sort of horn configuration. It was about 25% bigger. They call it like bison antiquus. They had a lot of fidelity to a certain style of point. They had a lot seems to have a lot of fidelity to bison and they lived and what is now the American great plains. That's where they're found. So you can find them in the Panhandle of Texas. You can find them in New Mexico. You can find them in Montana. You can find Folsom points in southern Saskatchewan. You can find them all way the western Nebraska, but they stayed to the great plains. Where the most of the planes buffalo were. Yeah. And at the time, it was probably cooler and wetter, but it was an open grassland, and it was just going by how few Folsom sites there are and how widely dispersed they are and kind of the imprint of those people. It was probably insanely low population densities. I can't no one can say this for real, but I've run this by professional anthropologists. It's not unreasonable to think that a band of these hunters, which would be an extended family group. These bands of people, it makes sense that they were maybe they maybe didn't exceed ten or 20 individuals. It's not unreasonable to imagine that they could go a generation without it encountering individuals that you're not immediately related to. It seems very few people occupying that landscape at that time. Take a minute and imagine the North American continent 10,300 years ago with human populations that scarce. By the time Europeans arrived here, roughly 10,000 years after the Folsom bison kill, which would be about 600 plus years from the present backwards from the present. The place was basically like an urban center crawling with people. The civilization of the American Indians was in full swing at highly developed compared to when the Folsom hunters were here. Some American Indians are undoubtedly the descendants of the Folsom hunters. Wildly, though, of all the things these Folsom hunters used in life, there is one thing that has outlasted the rigor of time that we infer an incredible amount of data from. One of the things I like about the projectile point, since it's made of stone and it lasts a long time. So it winds up being some people that are ninja what we'd call Indian arrowheads. Sometimes don't get the fascination with it. A way to think about it, it's not so much that it's the arrowhead. It's just a piece of something that survived sometimes in a perfect state from the time they handled it. Their bones are gone, to large measure, they're homes and structures, the things they wore, the wood that they employed, I'd be as excited to find a spear shaft, but they're not laying around. It's like, but here's the thing that a guy can drop that thing. And it's considered for 12,000 years. What other thing can you drop on the ground? We talk about how long our stuff lasts, right? How long plastic glass? You set a plastic bottle. Underground for 12,000 years to come back and look at it. There might be something, but it ain't gonna look like a portable. Imagine archeologists 10,000 years from now. Well, I doubt this place will be around. But them taking just one of your material possessions and making vast inferences about your entire life from it. I wonder what they'd say. I had some questions about how an archeological site is verified, so it's legitimacy is known. I think it's important for us to understand the bigger picture of what's happening here beyond some dudes digging up bones and finding stone points, Q, the Randy Travis song. It's a pretty complex world and there were many missteps in early archeology and in the original excavation of the Folsom site that almost disqualified it. So from an archeological process, there's a prescribed way that a site should be excavated and understood. As I understand it, there were other sites in Texas and Nebraska and maybe even in Kansas that potentially had similar type evidence of humans in these older animals that are now extinct, but they were mishandled and so they have to be it's like evidence coming into a courtroom that was acquired the wrong way in the judge goes. I can't use this. That's exactly how it played out. But we also need to put a little bit of historical context here. This is the late 1890s, early 1900s, the teens. There weren't clear cut methods for field excavation. A lot of these excavations were not conducted by what we would now recognize as sort of professional scientists, professional archeologists, professional geologists, and they didn't know what they were doing. It's really what it came down to. So we had this site out in Frederick, Oklahoma, where it was a gravel quarry. And the folks who were working the gravel query said, oh yeah, we've got artifacts associated with mammoth bones. Well, you know, it requires a certain amount of expertise to sort of really be able to in an excavation know, okay, these are deposits of a certain age. These are things that are associated with those deposits. We know that they belong in those deposits. And so because there were not agreed upon field techniques and clear cut field techniques at the time, and because some of these discoveries were made by folks who really didn't understand what they were seeing. And they weren't even archeologists. You know, they're guys that work at the quarry. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And they're just their job is just to shovel that stuff out of the way. So you find an artifact in the spoil pile over here and you find some bones in the spoil pile over there. That doesn't mean that that artifact and that bone were associated back 20,000 years ago, 15,000 years ago. In retrospect, a couple of those sites, not the one in Frederick, but one out in Colorado city, Texas. In retrospect, we looked at the artifacts and we said, well, you know what? There is a possibility those artifacts could have been associated with that bison. But the problem was, in 1924, and this is a few years before Folsom, the bison was being excavated by a fella, who was just a local guy. He had discovered this bison in this creek bed and he wrote to the museum and said, you guys want it. So the folks folks in Denver said, yeah, we'd really like to have that bison skeleton. And they gave him instructions on how to get it out of the ground, plaster it, and put it into crates and ship it up to Denver. He excavates the bison, plasters it up. He puts it into a crate and the crate had been, you know, the folks in Denver had said make a crate, you know, this big by this big by this big, and so he had this giant plastered bison. Couldn't fit it into a crate. Instead of building a bigger crate, he simply knocked off chunks of the bone. Shoved it in there. So this was not done well, right? And even though they found artifacts with the bison, they didn't realize that that was of interest, or significance. Wow. And so they just ignored them, and it was only after the fact somebody was visiting Denver and said, hey, you know, I'd watched your guys excavate this thing down in Texas and did you know they have points that came out with the bison and the folks in Denver said, we had no clue. So, you know, you can't basic case for people having been here a very long time ago or hunting bison or a very long time ago when you had that kind of excavation. And so that very well could have been a totally legitimate site. And I think it is actually the Folsom site was originally excavated by an amateur archeologist named Karl shwa heim. He was a friend of George's. He was hired by the Denver museum of natural history to get them a bison antiquis skeleton. But while he was digging, he found a stone point. He made some sketches and notified the museum in this really perk their ears up and they told him if you find another one, Carl don't dig it up, leave it in place. Luckily, he did find another one, and they were able to send down a bona FIDE archeologist to verify in situ or in place. This then attracted the attention of the world. But I've got more questions. You know, and that brings me to kind of my biggest overarching question inside archeology that is just so it's intriguing to think about this is that how much of Planet Earth have we excavated to understand what is here. I mean, it feels like we're just going off these very like if you took the volume of the earth and said, how much of that volume has a professional archeologist in modern times actually excavated? It would be a number so small, it would be unbelievable. And so we're basing so much of what we know off these little bitty spots, but who's to say there's not another incredible spot 50 feet from the Folsom site that's gonna redirect history again. But you're absolutely right. A lot of these sites are deeply buried. A lot of these sites will never see the surface again. A lot of these sites disappeared over time. You've got erosion. If you were around on the high plains in the 1930s during the dust bowl, it would have been the worst time to live there, but it would have been the best time to do archeology there. Because what was happening was that basically the surface is blowing away. And what it did was is exposed. A lot of these old ice age pleistocene age, Lake beds, and they're all manner of bones and artifacts that came out of these sites, but of course once all that stops blowing, a lot of the archeological discovery is necessarily based on chance encounters where you've got ranchers that are putting in a stock tank. You've got farmers that are plowing. You've got a road that's getting cut, and you just get lucky. Or a George mcjunkin exactly a cult of wild horse aro. You know, George mcjunkin is such an interesting character to me. You know, this is a guy who is clearly really intrigued and interested and fascinated and wants to learn about what's around him. So he was the right guy at the right moment in the right spot. And it changed American archeology. We just can't get away from old George now can we? I kind of get obsessed with these characters that's not learn about them. And I'm considering a junk and tattoo. That. That's not true. I don't do tats. But I do need some more info on the actual site. From this, I think we'll begin to understand how archeologists think. Let's talk in specifics about the Folsom site and what was found there. So this flood in 1908, unearthed these bones that George mcjunkin found. So we know how they were found in the series, but what did they find there? So the initial excavations at Folsom took place in 1926, 1927, in 1928 as well. Unfortunately, the site was excavated by paleontologists. The site was excavated by folks that were interested in bones. And while they did a decent job, they, well, the term is telling. They referred to the Folsom site as the Folsom bone quarry. Their quarrying bone out of this thing. So they're not viewing it as an archeological site where it archeological site meaning it has evidence of humans. Well, I mean, they saw it as a bone query that had evidence of humans. But what they weren't doing was paying really close attention to the things that we as archeologists pay attention to. Where exactly were those artifacts found? How were the bones distributed? This is one of the things that really challenged us when we started excavating there was that there's basically where no maps of their excavations. Now we're archeologists. We're fairly compulsive about things. We're fairly compulsive about a lot of things, because when you're excavating an archeological site, you're destroying it. So you've got to make very, very careful records all the way through the process. Maps, photographs, detailed measurements, all this stuff. And the folks who were basically quarrying this for bone, were doing none of that. And so when we started, they had identified on their maps, here's a skeleton here. Here's a skeleton here. Here's a skeleton over here. They weren't nice discreet skeletons of animals. These were bone piles and they hadn't quite recognized that these were discard piles. They were not, you know, here's an animal stretched out on the ground. And of course, you know, they weren't paying attention to a lot of the things that we only subsequently started paying attention to, like, what's the surface condition of the bone? Because that tells you something about how long it was sitting out, exposed before it got covered by the sediment. They weren't really paying much attention to the sediment itself. What's the nature of the sediment? How did it originate? Why is the site in this particular spot? Where did the kill take place? There were so many unanswered questions. The thing that they did in the 1920s was they clearly showed people who had been here since the pleistocene. They did that just fine. But there were so many questions about the site that were unanswered. That's why I went back 70 years later because I said, you know, it's the most famous site in North America, one of the most famous sites in North America, and we know almost nothing about it in terms of what we hope and expect to know nowadays about an archeological site. It's funny, in 1928, when they finished up the excavations, barnum Brown, who had been in charge, said, there's nothing left. Don't bother to come here. We've excavated the whole thing. What I realized, and this was actually before we went out there. I was talking to a vertebrate paleontologist here at the university. And he said, oh, barnum Brown said that about all his sites. And the reason he said that about all his sights is he didn't want anybody coming in after him to go to dig the sites. So he said, you can probably ignore that. Wow, I bet that was encouraging. How many more bison did you discover when you did the excavations in the late 90s? Well, because we know there were a bison kill of 32 animals. We know that now. And so how many did they find and how many did you find? Well, so this gets back to the issue of they were just counting a pile of bones as an animal, right? They didn't really have a clear sense of how many animals they were. They had a clear sense of how many animal piles, how many bones that there were. But they did estimate that they were probably at least a couple of dozen. Okay. What we did and this is sort of the typical way in which you estimate the number of animals that were once present in a kill is that you take bones that, well, in this case, we were taking basically bison ankles. So bison have two ankles, a left and a right. And so what you do is you count up how many right ankles you have or how many left ankles you have. And you say, okay, I got 32 right ankles, or I got 30 right ankles and 32 left ankles. Well, there wasn't an animal walking around on three legs. You probably had 32 animals. I say, where did they teach you this kind of reasoning, doctor Meltzer? This is brilliant. No, well, it's not me. But see, this is the kind of thing that you didn't do in the 1920s. Yeah. This is why we had to go back. And in fact, by literally counting up all of the elements, that gave us insight into what the hunters were eating and what they took off site because you know, okay, so there's 200 plus or minus change of bones in a bison skeleton. There is X number of ribs. There's X number of thoracic vertebra, and so you've got 32 animals. So if you've got 32 animals and X number of ribs, 32 times X gives you the total number of ribs, and then you double it because you got a left side and a right side. So then when you go to the site, and you say, well, I've only got three ribs here. You know what you're missing. They took those ribs with them. And we have pretty clear evidence that these folks were literally taking rib racks off of these animals because we have an undercount of what we ought to have in terms of ribs in terms of thoracic vertebra. Those are the big sort of structural high spinous process ribs on a buffalo hump. That's what makes the hum, right? Yeah. Really good meat there. So we're missing a bunch of upper leg bones. And that's where the bulk of the meat would be in the hams of those big bison. Think of them as bison drum sticks. 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So doctor melzer never fully got to the answer of my question about how many more bison he found when he redoubted fulsome. We need some answers, Doc. How many bison did your team find that were not found in the original excavations? Because an estimate. I mean, did you find 5 more? Well, whole skeletons are numbers of bones. Well, how many bison skulls did you find that they had not found? Oh, let me think about that. You know, usually the people that I deal with doctor Meltzer kind of can say offhand, how many bison and tick with skulls they found in their life? You're the only one I've talked to that it's like, well, I don't know. You know, I talked to a guy on one of my previous mercury's podcasts and I asked him how many times he'd been bit by venomous snakes. Oh, and he said, he said, I don't know. I've lost count. And he had been bit about 20 venomous snakes in his life. 20 plus. You're kind of like that guy. Well, you know, I'm talking about mister Fred lali from episode 12. Actually, I have the total numbers. So the Colorado museum collected 1600 elements, the American museum, 2000. We collected about 700. So there's a total of about 4300 bison elements. So you probably found 20% more roughly. Yeah. Mind you, we're not finding whole bison and complete parts. So we found about 17 cranial parts. We found at least three. Yeah, we have at least three intact crania, and many more exciting to dig up a bison skull. Were you there when were you the one digging when this happened? Actually, no, I got out of the way. So did your team find any points? No. Was that surprising to you? No. And the reason is, is that they literally had excavated back in the 1920s, most of the site. So if you imagine a kill site with that many animals, I guess there would be a central area and then kind of fringe animals out to the side of it and you guys kind of were finding well leftovers. We were finding the leftovers of the excavation, rather than the leftovers of the kill because I think we were in an area of the kill where a lot of the processing and butchering was taking place, but because we were where the area of processing and butchering was taking place, there weren't necessarily points there. Okay, so let's think about this in terms of a bison kill. Okay, so we've got a conundrum. We have no way of knowing really what happened that day in the fall some 10,000 years ago. I wanted to get some clarity from doctor melzer about what we 100% know. So we're trying to make sense of how the heck that these ancient humans could have killed that many big animals in one spot. How certain are you your hypothesis? I mean, when you really think about the amount of evidence that we have, and the kind of conclusions that we're coming to, it's kind of mind boggling to me because we have bones and we have points. We have the topography and now you have in depth researched what the land would look like at that time from the excavations that you've done. How certain are you? I mean, you being the chief authority on this. Are you just guessing? Okay. How it went down. That's inference, right? How they made the kill. The time of the year, they made the kill. Did they maneuver the animals and killed them in the Arroyo, or did they kill them in the tributary? I have to infer that, right? Okay, so that part. Absolutely. And in fact, when we wrote all this up in the Folsom book, you know, I made it clear. Here's one alternative explanation. Here's another. Now, the first part of your question was, am I sure this is a kill of 32 animals? Yes, absolutely. Yes, yes. Yeah, because there's no other way to account for it, right? So one of the things that we do as archeologists is, okay, you've always got to make sure that things are not there naturally. Before you can conclude that they're there culturally that is to say before you can conclude that they're there as a consequence of.
"folsom" Discussed on Bear Grease
"Associated with something else, much bigger. They were tightly associated with a relics form of bison called bison antiques. Not something that went extinct, a relic form of the animal that lives here now. It was bigger, had different sort of horn configuration. It was about 25% bigger. They call it like bison antiquus. They had a lot of fidelity to a certain style of point. They had a lot seems to have a lot of fidelity to bison and they lived and what is now the American great plains. That's where they're found. So you can find them in the Panhandle of Texas. You can find them in New Mexico. You can find them in Montana. You can find Folsom points in southern Saskatchewan. You can find them all way the western Nebraska, but they stayed to the great plains. Where the most of the planes buffalo were. Yeah. And at the time, it was probably cooler and wetter, but it was an open grassland, and it was just going by how few Folsom sites there are and how widely dispersed they are and kind of the imprint of those people. It was probably insanely low population densities. I can't no one can say this for real, but I've run this by professional anthropologists. It's not unreasonable to think that a band of these hunters, which would be an extended family group. These bands of people, it makes sense that they were maybe they maybe didn't exceed ten or 20 individuals. It's not unreasonable to imagine that they could go a generation without it encountering individuals that you're not immediately related to. It seems very few people occupying that landscape at that time. Take a minute and imagine the North American continent 10,300 years ago with human populations that scarce. By the time Europeans arrived here, roughly 10,000 years after the Folsom bison kill, which would be about 600 plus years from the present backwards from the present. The place was basically like an urban center crawling with people. The civilization of the American Indians was in full swing at highly developed compared to when the Folsom hunters were here. Some American Indians are undoubtedly the descendants of the Folsom hunters. Wildly, though, of all the things these Folsom hunters used in life, there is one thing that has outlasted the rigor of time that we infer an incredible amount of data from. One of the things I like about the projectile point, since it's made of stone and it lasts a long time. So it winds up being some people that are ninja what we'd call Indian arrowheads. Sometimes don't get the fascination with it. A way to think about it, it's not so much that it's the arrowhead. It's just a piece of something that survived sometimes in a perfect state from the time they handled it. Their bones are gone, to large measure, they're homes and structures, the things they wore, the wood that they employed, I'd be as excited to find a spear shaft, but they're not laying around. It's like, but here's the thing that a guy can drop that thing. And it's considered for 12,000 years. What other thing can you drop on the ground? We talk about how long our stuff lasts, right? How long plastic glass? You set a plastic bottle. Underground for 12,000 years to come back and look at it. There might be something, but it ain't gonna look like a portable. Imagine archeologists 10,000 years from now. Well, I doubt this place will be around. But them taking just one of your material possessions and making vast inferences about your entire life from it. I wonder what they'd say. I had some questions about how an archeological site is verified, so it's legitimacy is known. I think it's important for us to understand the bigger picture of what's happening here beyond some dudes digging up bones and finding stone points, Q, the Randy Travis song. It's a pretty complex world and there were many missteps in early archeology and in the original excavation of the Folsom site that almost disqualified it. So from an archeological process, there's a prescribed way that a site should be excavated and understood. As I understand it, there were other sites in Texas and Nebraska and maybe even in Kansas that potentially had similar type evidence of humans in these older animals that are now extinct, but they were mishandled and so they have to be it's like evidence coming into a courtroom that was acquired the wrong way in the judge goes. I can't use this. That's exactly how it played out. But we also need to put a little bit of historical context here. This is the late 1890s, early 1900s, the teens. There weren't clear cut methods for field excavation. A lot of these excavations were not conducted by what we would now recognize as sort of professional scientists, professional archeologists, professional geologists, and they didn't know what they were doing. It's really what it came down to. So we had this site out in Frederick, Oklahoma, where it was a gravel quarry. And the folks who were working the gravel query said, oh yeah, we've got artifacts associated with mammoth bones. Well, you know, it requires a certain amount of expertise to sort of really be able to in an excavation know, okay, these are deposits of a certain age. These are things that are associated with those deposits. We know that they belong in those deposits. And so because there were not agreed upon field techniques and clear cut field techniques at the time, and because some of these discoveries were made by folks who really didn't understand what they were seeing. And they weren't even archeologists. You know, they're guys that work at the quarry. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And they're just their job is just to shovel that stuff out of the way. So you find an artifact in the spoil pile over here and you find some bones in the spoil pile over there. That doesn't mean that that artifact and that bone were associated back 20,000 years ago, 15,000 years ago. In retrospect, a couple of those sites, not the one in Frederick, but one out in Colorado city, Texas. In retrospect, we looked at the artifacts and we said, well, you know what? There is a possibility those artifacts could have been associated with that bison. But the problem was, in 1924, and this is a few years before Folsom, the bison was being excavated by a fella, who was just a local guy. He had discovered this bison in this creek bed and he wrote to the museum and said, you guys want it. So the folks folks in Denver said, yeah, we'd really like to have that bison skeleton. And they gave him instructions on how to get it out of the ground, plaster it, and put it into crates and ship it up to Denver. He excavates the bison, plasters it up. He puts it into a crate and the crate had been, you know, the folks in Denver had said make a crate, you know, this big by this big by this big, and so he had this giant plastered bison. Couldn't fit it into a crate. Instead of building a bigger crate, he simply knocked off chunks of the bone. Shoved it in there. So this was not done well, right? And even though they found artifacts with the bison, they didn't realize that that was of interest, or significance. Wow. And so they just ignored them, and it was only after the fact somebody was visiting Denver and said, hey, you know, I'd watched your guys excavate this thing down in Texas and did you know they have points that came out with the bison and the folks in Denver said, we had no clue. So, you know, you can't basic case for people having been here a very long time ago or hunting bison or a very long time ago when you had that kind of excavation. And so that very well could have been a totally legitimate site. And I think it is actually the Folsom site was originally excavated by an amateur archeologist named Karl.
"folsom" Discussed on Bear Grease
"In the rib, Steve means the point was laying in between two ribs. It wasn't stuck in a rib, but it was just as conclusive. We heard briefly from doctor David melzer on part one. He's the national authority on the Folsom site and how would one know that? Well, he literally wrote a giant book called Folsom. It's basically a textbook on everything known about the place. Doctor Meltzer isn't just a Folsom expert, though. He's dedicated his academic career to the people of the pleistocene era, which is a block of time that began a couple million years ago and ended 10,000 years ago. The time period from then until now is called the holocene. We live in the holocene. If you know these two words, pleistocene and holocene, you're pretty much be in the loop for talking about the recent history of Planet Earth. Doctor melzer is the author of multiple books on the pleistocene, including first peoples in a new world. The great Paleolithic war and search for the first Americans. I went to the campus of SMU in Dallas, Texas, where he works. We'd hardly greeted each other when he asked me to follow him into his lab. It was full of bones and stone tools. Ancient stuff. A skull that's been turned upside down because when we got it in the ground, it was top of the head facing up, right? So we plastered it, and then we cut underneath it, lifted it out. And so now what you see is the plastic. It's resting on its plaster cast, and you can see the teeth in here. Wow, right? And there's the back of the skull, so that is a bison and tick with skull from the bullshit. Yep, and it's a big and it's pretty wild being in the same room with the skull of a bison antiques. If you want to see a cell phone video, the skull, you can check out my Instagram clay underscore newcombe. Doctor melzer is a unique guy when it comes to Folsom. The site was originally excavated between 1926 and 1928, but 70 years later there were unanswered questions that he knew our modern techniques and technology could now answer. Primarily carbon dating, which we'll talk about more in part three of this series. Like a dramatic movie sequel in 1997, doctor melzer and his team went back to Folsom. They dug up the place again with new questions about the site's geology, its antiquity, which is the site's age. The paleo topography, which is its former geography, and its depositional history, which basically means the layers that covered the site. Here's doctor melzer talking about the uniqueness of the Folsom site. For 50 years, there had been this very heated debate over how long people had been in the Americas and all manner of contenders were put forward. This is evidence that people have been here since the pleistocene. This is evidence that people have been here for 300,000 years. Here's evidence that people have been here for 350,000 years, but in each and every instance those sites failed to prove what they were claimed to prove, and they failed because of various reasons. The artifacts weren't actually artifacts. The artifacts were not in the geological deposits that were said to be that old. The artifacts had rolled downhill and ended up next to ancient animal remains, but they were not necessarily in what we call primary context. That is to say they didn't enter the deposit. At the same time, as those ancient animals enter the deposit. And so you had literally decades of people arguing back and forth over how long people had been in the Americas. When Folsom came along, it was just as advertised. What you had was a spot on the landscape where hunters had confronted and killed a herd of bison. We now know there were about 32 animals that were dispatched that day. And in the process, left behind their artifacts in ways that made it absolutely clear that those animals and those people had been on that very landscape at the same moment in time because we had spear points, what we now know is false and fluted points in direct association with the bones and what I mean by that is we had a projectile point in between ribs. It had sat there since that animal was killed, right? There was no question that that was some sort of adventitious association that somehow a projectile point had worked its way down into the dirt into the earth ten feet below the surface and ended up in between two bison ribs. Right. No, that animal was stabbed by a human, and because that animal was a now extinct form of bison, which went extinct at the end of the pleistocene. That was the first absolutely definitive proof that people had been in the Americas at the end of the pleistocene. The only question remaining after that was how much earlier might they have been? Right. But that's what made fulsome different. It was just as advertised. When you look back at the history of archeology itself as a study, there was an incredible amount of drama and ego involved in the discussion of human antiquity. It was highly competitive regarding who discovered what and where. So it's hard to overstate how important the find was because it was so indisputable. Here's another component of understanding Folsom and archeology that will help us. This is Steve describe into us what is called a type site. A lot of bygone cultures will have a thing called the type site. The type site is where they were identified. When we talk about Folsom hunters, the fulsome culture was identified at, wild horse Arroyo, your fulsome, New Mexico, was when it was first identified. The identifying feature of the Folsom culture. I was called Folsom hunters. And they took the name Folsom simply because that was the English name of the town. Sure, that was probably a brand new town. That has nothing to do as a descriptor of these people. Not at all. Just to keeping in the same state. It's the same point in the same state. When we talk about a Clovis hunter, it just so happens that the projectile points which stand for the hunters that made them were first identified near Clovis, New Mexico. They were there over 10,000 years before anyone even thought to name to make it to the place clothes. We happened to right now doing our conversation about Folsom near shattering Nebraska. Were you and I had to walk out and find holy cow. Look at this insane projectile point. Diagnostic, unfound point. And then we realized it was this whole culture of people and they made this point. They might wind up calling them the shattering hunters. I think they'd call it brunel newcombe. Okay. But if they were consistent with the days of yore, that's what they would wind up name them. Folsom hunters were identified near false New Mexico and so they the name, the nearby town name was applied to the culture. When we talk about a culture atom, like, what do you imagine? A culture of people. We know them when we see them based on the point. With our understanding right now, it's the point. The point has to be present. The projectile point that they like to make has to be present, meaning, if we know that the wholesome culture was active, 11,700 years ago. If you went down to South Florida and found a human campsite from 11,700 years ago that had a different projectile point, you wouldn't call it a Folsom site. Okay, so it's not two. Yeah, it's not when it's who and when. It describes a culture just like the culture of us to drive Chevrolet pickups. Sure, and there's another culture in France that drives some other kind of pickup. The Folsom culture is identified by the type of technology they use when making stone points, but this culture was also.
"folsom" Discussed on Bear Grease
"Authorities have see that's only way that I need to get in here. I'm walking through a grassy meadow headed towards a small drainage. The clicking you're hearing is Kyle bell spurs. That's it, huh? We're 11 miles west of Folsom New Mexico on the crowfoot ranch. The place we're headed to is we're ancient pleistocene hunters killed a cow calf herd of 32 bison, some 10,300 years ago. Here they found the bison bone piles buried beneath ten feet of earth and astonishingly roughly 20 stone points of a design that had never been documented before. They called this place the Folsom site. You'd walk right past it if you didn't know what you were looking for. It looks like every other place on this range. But something special happened here. This is the voice of the current manager of the crowfoot ranch, Seth. They add all those archeologists come out, you know, from the different schools. And they did a dig, 20 years ago, 20 plus. So all this disturbed dirt, they dug right in here. What I thought was ironic that they found was they said that they were being selective of meat. Have you heard that? Because they didn't have any of their lower jaw bones to them. So they thought they were eating the tongues out of them. Yeah. Really? And they were they thought that was a delicacy. You're at the sight. So when George found it, would it have been like, it'd been like a fresh cut bank. Yeah. After a big floor. Yeah, I mean, you look, you can come up here and look at the erosion from it. And I assume that this is probably eroded more sense, but you see how steep it was. Okay. And then that flood, you know, it probably took another two or three foot off the sides, and that's when he found the bone. In part one of this series we learned that this site was discovered in 1908 by freed slave named George mcjunkin. He was a self educated self made man who became a renowned cowboy and the manager of the crowfoot ranch. The site wasn't excavated by professional archeologists until after George's death, so he never knew the significance of his discovery. In this podcast series, we're en route to get a layman's PhD on the Folsom site. You've heard Steve brunella on bare grease before. He's a George but junk and junkie and has been.
"folsom" Discussed on Bear Grease
"Misstep, would you have known about the Folsom side? Because I'm married to you. I wouldn't know I wouldn't say, oh, I know a whole lot about that. But I would say you've heard about it. And this is a lot of clay's pillow talk. This is archeological sites. For sure. Talking about some points. So talking about finding stone points. What's interesting is that the Folsom point, you could find a Folsom point in my front yard. Did you know that? No, you could not. Yes, you could. Yeah, because the Folsom point will be talking about this. 14..
"folsom" Discussed on Bear Grease
"To be here accepting this prestigious award for a person I consider to be someone that's part of our family. George played an instrumental role in the early success of my family's ranch. After my great, great, great, grandfather passed away. George taught his two children, what it'd be like, ready to take to become good cowboys. And more importantly, good men. George be sold on my great great grandfather, lessons that are still being passed down to my children 7 generations later. I really wish George was here to see the impact that his life made. But George is a man. Well ahead of his time, but it's his honesty, grit, and perseverance, then you'll be remembered by the true cowboy. The idea of a black cowboy is interesting, but that isn't why we're still talking about him today. Matt mentioned that he discovered something of significance. And after I peruse the museum, I jumped in the truck and drove about ten miles out of Folsom. We pulled through the gate of a ranch in my chauffeur jumped out of the truck and told me he wanted to show me something. We're overlooking a broad valley surrounded by rim rock bluffs, junipers, and some open country. It's beautiful. We're located on the Hereford park range in northeastern New Mexico and actually we're right on the union county Corvettes county line. This is Kyle bell. He's wearing a big black cowboy hat, boots that come up to his knees. And he's got strips of tanned Elk had wrapped around his willing Nelson style braids. The jingle of spurs tell you he's a cowboy. He's a longtime resident of Folsom New Mexico and acts almost like a guardian of George mcjunkins character and legacy. Both he and Matt talk about George, like he's their brother. And looking at this valley, you look down there, you can see the house. That house is a landmark in this part of the country. It's been here for well over a hundred years. And that House is where George mcjunkin helped build that house and this is the ranch that he worked on. You can see that hay barn down there. Then there's a drainage that goes back up this way towards that Butte up there. When you get up there, about halfway between here and that beat, that's wild horse Arroyo. And that's the location of the side. And Georgian fortunately, he found the bones and realized that they were probably bison bones, but he'd never seen any of that big before. They knew something was unusual about him. But before anybody came back and actually did excavation, George passed away. So he died not knowing how important his discovery was, which is a shame. It's time to level with you on what George found. That discovery now defines his life, but it didn't while he was living. On this episode, we'll touch on the discovery, but we're going to look deeper into Georgia's life. But here's a glimpse into what he discovered. In 1908, George was in his mid to late 50s. He was riding a horse at the wild horse Arroyo on the ranch he managed when a peculiar bone caught his eye. Recently, a giant flash flood had washed out the drainage exposing a deeper layer of soil. The flood had actually washed away much of the town of fulsome when 14 inches of rain fell in just a few hours and 18 people died. The earth is funny, it seems to want to cover stuff up, but the fast water reverse the process and uncovered what had been hidden for over 10,000 years buried ten feet below the surface. George had spent his whole life paying attention to the natural world and he identified the chalky pile as bison bones. But he knew they weren't normal. He took note of their location and rode on. Over the next 13 years, he told many people about his find and urged them to come see it, but no one came for years. In January of 1922, George passed away and three months after his death an amateur archeologist from raton went to find the bones that George spoke of, and he was shocked. In 1927, 5 years after George's death, the site would be hailed by the leading archeologist in the United States as the most significant archeological find of all time in North America. It proved beyond a shadow of a doubt that humans had inhabited North America for over 10,000 years. The discovery literally made every history book on human arrival in North America irrelevant. George had discovered an ice age bison kill site. It was the ancient evidence of an elaborate hunt, a plan that either came together by chance or incredible hunting prowess or something in between will never know the details. Speculation based on the fans and the exercise of intelligent imagination is the only way to recreate the imagery of the hunt. No one was filming for YouTube. Though George only saw a few bones later they would uncover the skeletons of 32 bison antiques and extinct species of bison. But what would put it in the history books is that inside the pile of bones were stone tools made by humans and they weren't just any stone points. They were a new style that we'd never documented before. They were old. Very old. They would become known as Folsom points. Paleontologists knew bison antiquis has long been extinct and it proved that humans were here thousands of years longer than we thought. It was a wild period of time in the archeological world in the site would become known as a Folsom site. Doctor David melzer is an archeologist and the national authority on the Folsom site. He's a professor at SMU in Dallas, Texas. We're going to get to know him very well on the next podcast, but here's a little bit of what he had to say about George. The thing that has always struck me about George mcjunkin is that he's out checking his fence lines after the great flood comes onto this newly incised more deeply incised portion of the Arroyo there. And he sees bones at the bottom. The best we can tell from the very, very, very few photographs we have of when the site was first discovered. You know, this is ten feet, 12 feet below the surface. He sees bones sticking out. Now, you know, 99 out of a hundred cowboys look down and say, well, okay, so there's bones. You see bones all the time. Out in ranch country. Right. George got off his horse. And George walked down into that Arroyo. George is the one out of a hundred who looked at that realized it was of interest, I have no idea why, except that he was so interested in the world around him that he walked down into that Arroyo, looked at those bones and realized this in a cow,.
"folsom" Discussed on Bear Grease
"Matt tell me tell me where we're at. How is this? We're here at the Folsom museum in Folsom New Mexico. And it's a mercantile store in bank, and it was built in 18 86, 89, I guess. And this was your families building. Yeah. Oh, my great, great grandfather's. He came from Ireland, back about turn the century and ran a bank in a mercantile store here. So you guys have been toughing it out here for, you know? Hundred and 130 years or so? Yeah, pretty much. The Folsom museum is one of those places you'd stop thinking it was a cute place to buy a souvenir. There's a hand painted sign on the door that says no horses or dogs allowed in the museum and it's not a joke. However, upon entering, you realize the place is a historical gym. It's a legit museum with over 4000 pieces. What's the most prized possession in here? I don't know. We probably have to be some of the Folsom points. We have stuff from Charles goodnight. Some buffalo skulls from the extermination of the buffalo in the 1860s and a prehistoric buffalo skull from about 9000 years ago. Lots of different things. And then lots of George mcjunkin stuff. Yeah, we have his hat, some branding irons used ledger book that he actually wrote in. For the last three podcasts we've been focusing on the American Southwest and we're continuing on that track. I'm in search of all the Intel. I can get on this man that Matt speaks of George mcjunkin. The information on his life is limited because very few new of the significance of his accomplishments until after he was dead. Like a passing moment we'd wish we'd paid more attention to George's life past like water through fingers. It was only documented by the few people that perceived he was special. But it's probably not that strange when you understand the circumstances around his life. This is the voice of Matt dowry. His family has been in Folsom New Mexico for a long time, and they know a lot about this town's history. It's deep history. So this is George mcjunkins, his old hat, is that right? Yeah, we think so, it was found in the hotel, you know, where he died in the same room in a box that about the same time period and it looks pretty similar to the one in all the pictures. So that'd be a beaver felt hat. Yeah, I would imagine. It's what all the real cowboys wore. Yeah. Yup. None of these beanies that they were today. Human life and I'm talking about the actual act of living is bound by time and has a strict starting and stopping point. We're odd critters when we want to remember a human life which we can't capture and preserve. We memorialize it by gathering up material things that are absent of life that were used in the life of the one that we're trying to remember. If they put your cowboy hat and your horse tack in a museum, I wanna know who you were. If George mcjunkin.
Another Group Favored By Chicago's Loretto Hospital Exec Got Vaccinated Early
"Hospital is accused of giving covert 19 vaccines to another group of ineligible recipients. According to W Be easy. Nearly 30. People from a neighboring Grethe Orthodox Parish got the shot earlier this month without qualifying. Others with connections to the hospital leadership have been able to do the same, including judges and workers at Trump Tower, Ah, high end jewelry store and a steakhouse mere life, it said. Loretta needs to come clean about the extent Repeatedly that Momir we're doing that. But clearly that's not true. And so now it feels like it's death by 1000 cuts for them where I'm quite my understanding is there's at least one other story in the works. So they've got to take care of their business They've got to do. Ah, Folsom applauded and you've gotta own responsibility for what has happened. That is not happened yet. And then they've got a reported the C V P H and truthfully, the mayor is waiting for that internal audit before deciding how to proceed below. Roberto is no longer receiving first doses of the vaccine. The hospital's C 00 has resigned.
The Timothy Leary Conviction
"On january twenty first nineteen seventy former harvard professor and so called priest of lsd timothy. Leary was sentenced to ten years in prison on drug smuggling charges but in september of that year. The fifty year-old academic broke out of a san luis obispo facility with the help of the weatherman. The daring escape only added to the mystique of the man president. Nixon wants declared the most dangerous man in america. But just what made leery so dangerous. Well it might not surprise you. That richard nixon may have been exaggerating for his own political game according to authors. Bill minna tag. Leo and stephen l davis nixon's advisors suggested he find a public enemy to distract the public from his own flagging approval rating the war in vietnam and the struggling economy. They leary a prominent figure in the counterculture movement and because the former professor was a proud exponent of hallucinogenic drug use. The president's ir fit right in with his war on drugs narrative timothy leary was something of a self appointed spokesperson for the benefits of drug use. Which heat enjoyed since one thousand nine hundred sixty after an experimental magic mushrooms trip. The already noted psychologist became excited about the possibilities. Mushrooms and similar drugs had on the human brain during his tenure. At harvard he conducted academic experiments on the effects of hallucinogens. Drawing the attention and admiration of other notable nineteen sixties figures famed authors. Like gin berg and jack kerouac willingly participated in leary's experiments and it was perhaps their involvement that catapulted the professor onto the national stage before long leary was touring the country speaking about his research and reportedly brushing up against the rich and famous inevitably a backlash arrived. Leary's teaching colleagues criticized his experimentation with lsd. They believed research of that. Nature should be left to medical doctors not psychologists meanwhile psychology experts who once lauded leary's earlier work now made it clear that his drug centered experiments were less praiseworthy. Despite these blows leary insisted that taking lsd was quote a sacramental ritual one that could expand human consciousness. Harvard university did not agree and fired him in nineteen sixty three but by that stage leary had a new life. He was a counterculture touchstone for the masses and a legitimizing scientific voice in the pro drug movement. He rubbed shoulders with marilyn monroe and sang with john. Lennon and yoko ono in short he was a powerful voice advocating for drug use throughout the nineteen sixties. He even appeared before a senate committee to argue in favor of legislation. That would make it legal for adults to use hallucinogenic drugs. So when richard. Nixon assumed the presidency in nineteen sixty nine leary was squarely in his sights. Ostensibly nixon wanted to eliminate drug use in the country. Leary very much did not. That made him dangerous. So it's little surprise that when leary's appeal of his nineteen sixty five drug-smuggling conviction was overturned. The government wanted a second bite at the apple but any joy nixon and his cabinet might have felt in putting leary. Away was short lived using his network of contacts. The former professor escaped prison remaining on the run until nineteen seventy three when he was detained in afghanistan and sent back to the united states. There he was jailed in the notorious folsom. Prison and briefly befriended charles manson and though his sentence was for ten years leary was paroled in nineteen. Seventy six having served just three. It's a surprising twist day given that so many drug offenders imprisoned for decades on similar offenses then again timothy leary was famous and white which might have had something to do with his early release
Intel Ousts Chief Executive Bob Swan
"Big changes for Intel, which will have special importance to a lot of folks out in Folsom. Bob Swan stepping down as CEO and Pat Gell singer who is currently the CEO Of'em, where we'll be taking over. Hat not only very successful CEO of bm where, but he also was the former chief technology officer at Intel worked there for many years, so he knows the company. He is a tech guy. Bob Swan was World finance guy, and it just didn't work out for bomb on a number of different fronts.
"folsom" Discussed on NewsRadio KFBK
"Folsom. So the Folsom Fire Department is reporting a covert 19 case within their staff. They say that fire chief Qin Cassano tested positive yesterday after experiencing some covert 19 symptoms. Okay. Thank you, sir. And Folsom is the news. Thank you Appreciate that. Governor Newsome issued a warning yesterday at his news conference to any medical provider. Who is tempted to give a vaccine shot to a friend or a relative. Don't do it. Yeah, well, and then I'm hearing about this. A Disney employees in Southern California says she was bragging on Facebook. Basically, that she got this vaccine early because her husband's aunt Is a big deal at the Redlands Community Hospital. That's outside of L A. And she posted about it and on Facebook, and you have people weren't too happy about seeing that. She's not a frontline health care worker. Okay? I want to just read to you. What the what the governor said quote. I just wanna make this crystal clear. If you skip the line or you intend to skip the line, you will be sanctioned. You will lose your license. You will not only lose your license, We will be very aggressive in terms of highlighting the reputational impacts as well. That's a pretty stark warning for any medical personnel who thinks that they want to give up this vaccine to a friend or a relative, right? I think that something like this I mean, we really need to think about The importance of following the guidelines and who needs it first, and who needs it? The most, UM, because there's millions literally millions of people waiting. So the governor's telling doctors don't be pulling any shenanigans. It'll be interesting to see what the penalty maybe if that happens for the first time in two years, the Boeing 7 37 Max said to take flight today, when where and what it means for the airline industry coming your way in a live report in three minutes With.
Cleve Jones: Queer Spaces After COVID-19
"The reality is that the Gayborhood are going away. So, if you look at San, Francisco's Castro district or Seattle's Capitol Hill or Washington DC's Dupont circle or boys town in Chicago West Hollywood or anywhere you want to look lavender Heights in Sacramento wherever you look where there's a defined gay neighborhood. It's not just a place where there's bars though bar life has always been an important part of our culture. It's where very important things happen. I is political power. When we are concentrated in specific precinct gives us the power to elect our own public office the the power to defeat our opponents, the power to pass legislation that directly affects our lives in our wellbeing. As we are dispersed. We lose that power. Another super important part of it was the cultural vitality look at all the amazing stuff that's come out of West Hollywood that's come out of my neighborhood I mean it's no coincidence that the rainbow flag and the First Gay Synagogue and the First Gay Film Festival and the Aids Memorial Quilt and the Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence all were born in the Castro because there's that magic that happens when creative people when choreographers and filmmakers dancers and deejays and painters. Are All in that same area and I. Know that collaboration can occur very effectively online but there's nothing like the magic of face to face contact close proximity for that cultural vitality, and then the third thing that's at risk are the specialized social services for our most vulnerable population. So. Whether we're talking about people like myself who are getting old long term survivors of HIV or queer kids trans kids who were fleeing trump's America where do they go? They can't come to the Castro a little crappy studio apartment in the Castro is going to cost you twenty, five, hundred dollars a month. So this is the reality that nobody's really quite talking about that that community that has given so much and strengthened us in inspired US moved. US forward. Being threatened and there's many factors technology. Many. People will say, Oh, well, we can live anywhere. We want. No, you can't. Tell me that try it. You know go to Duluth and walk down main street and hold hands no offense to duluth or any other city. You Might WanNa try doing that outside of a gayborhood. So we need these these spaces they're important and we need to figure out what's our next move? Do you have a solution. There's no easy solution but yeah, when people say oh, cleave. Cities Change well. Thank you for that brilliant observation. Yes. Of course, it has changed but we want to. Be Thinking about that change and the big factor is that cities have changed in a way. That's profoundly new. For generations since the industrial revolution, the cities were the place where refugees went immigrants, Bohemians, counterculture people, artists, homosexuals, and all these people of all these different backgrounds and ethnicities genders would you know create this these cauldrons of creativity and and they would climb their way up the economic ladder move out to the suburbs and that was really accelerated in the Post Warrior the nineteen fifties, the nineteen sixties, nineteen seventies, the phenomenon of white flight. So when I got to San Francisco, the population of that city had been declining steadily since the end of World War Two and we were able to go into these neighborhoods that had been largely abandoned by the working class immigrants that had built them originally. And create what we created I on Polk Street. Then on Castro and folsom street hate streets you know he's really vibrant communities. These are now some of the most expensive neighborhoods in the world. So the district that gave us Harvey Milk. is now inhabited increasingly by wide heterosexual gendered millionaires when you arrived in San. Francisco, you had a sleeping bag and a couple of shirts and forty two dollars and you were welcomed into this guy's home. You would never met who was not expecting you. It was an address you have from a friend and there was a safe place to live and to get on your feet. Even, if it's not as San Francisco, like that mentality is so unique. I think that's pretty much now partly because it's just so difficult to survive. So the young people I meet in their early twenty S. You know these and of course San Francisco, it's all tech And there's a lot of anger towards the tech invaders but I have a lot of empathy and. Real concern for them because first of all, most of them are working sixty seventy hours a week. They have no job security. There would never use the the phrase exploited workers to describe themselves but are blanche you are but I think also back then and especially in San Francisco it was still Kinda Hippie dippy. And it was very counterculture. It was very communal. And everybody was kind of expected and really encouraged to contribute in some way. You didn't necessarily have to be all that good at what you did, but you needed to do something whether it was a drag show or video or film or A. Poetry contest or something there was A. There was a real nurturing of people's creative pulses and a lot of support for there was so many places I knew where if I was hungry I just show up and there would be every night. There would be a communal potluck dinner. There were probably six or seven of those households within a few blocks of where I was living on Castro Street. So I never went hungry.
The Prison Music Project
"I'm really excited just to sort of bounce between the three of you I might. Wow so powerful. So amazing just a such an awesome I can't wait to kind of deconstruct the story in the story behind it with you. Don't WanNa Kinda get off with you. It probably makes sense it just Kinda like dive into. Before you start actually even showing up at folsom before any of this happened what were you up to sounds like you were you were out in the world doing work as singer Songwriter Jimmy certainly the picture of your world before then I twenty five. So I don't know what? Like twenty, five year old singer-songwriter folksinger. To sort of starting my career I quit this band that I was in with my called vermillion lies and we were like this Vaudeville, very theatrical cabaret. It was in that that cabaret renaissance that happened with dressed in dolls and all of that world we're in that. World and then a I quit that band with my sister and then started doing my own thing and right around the same time I started going into the prison. So I had just really started playing my solo music out in the world when I brought it into new folsom. Yeah. What was at that point in your life? What was music to you or for you if fell lied In. It still feels like it has always felt like as soon as I found it, it was like Oh. Yeah. I can't not make this. This is not a choice I'm making this just pours out of me. I'm GonNa, make it whether I share it with people or not but turns out I really love to share it with people. But at the time. I really wanted to write about things outside of myself. Social issues, political issues. Environmental issues and I never really could figure out. How to do it in a way that felt good it always felt contrived or luxury or. Yeah it fell way to able for sure somehow way more vulnerable than singing about my broken heart. Amen to that. Political songs hard. So hard I was working in the prison and working on those songs that brought me to that over many years took a long time for me to be able to write my own collaborating with folks who I mean it's You know folks who are impacted by incarceration, just their lives and their own stories are. You know it's like a social issue because. Incarceration as a social issue. So just writing about their own experience. It is a political song. So being a part of this collaboration, I think opened that door for me which. Were And Zoe were you on each other's radar at that point or like you kind of just doing a shepherd things any awareness of each other or did that happen later on I mean I certainly knew who she was. I did not know who so he was yet. Until she walked into my living room. Yeah. That was a bunch of years later. Yeah. So you end up going to new FOLSOM, which for those who don't know what that is described, what was it, and when you're showing up on the first day, what do you think that you're going there to do? What do you think your commitment is I'm going there to play three concerts? Yes. So new folsom prison, that's this nickname. The official name is California State Prison Sacramento. and. It's right next to the famous folsom prison, which has lower security new folsom is Neil. It's a newer, very plain looking concrete. Facility three buildings three yards houses about three thousand people. Non consensually. And it's a men's prison the as hopefully most listeners know. The prison system, the criminal justice system Miss, genders people a lot. So there were women trans. Women inside the as well. So I just want to mention that when I call it a men's prison. Yeah, and I was there, I committed to playing three concerts and I'd heard about them in advance. Through the person who who ran the program there he brought in artists to perform and teach workshops and stuff, and so I was there to perform and I was gonNA play in a library. To libraries on two separate yards, and then the one concert we were in contact for a few months before I went in an every couple of weeks he'd email me like are you sure you WanNa do this one concert? This is the one for men in solitary confinement. Are you sure you WanNa do this one it's really intense. and. it will never been one to. Shy away from something That might be yeah like emotionally challenging or. I don't want to hide a reality from myself a reality of our. Society I WANNA see it all even if it's ugly maybe especially if it's ugly because I wanNA know. What we're up against I, want to know why we're fighting and to be able to see it and experience it in that way. Yeah it is intense, but it's helpful. So I said, yes. Even I kept checking in and I kept thinking you're asking me again if I really WanNa do this one concert. Okay. So yeah, that's I. I didn't know really what to expect even though he told me but it's different to hear. To hear him describe it in. He told me you know you're going to be playing for these. People in cages, they'll be in these little cages when you play for them in this little room. And I just. It doesn't matter how much you hear a description of that seeing is. Totally different thing I mean. You know how you feel when you see an animal in a cage. It's a human being so it's just like ample. You know when you go to the zoo and you're like man I'm really sad. Well, you can identify with a human way more than you can identify with an animal and it's just like. I mean I think it's a yeah it's I. Think it's traumatizing to be in that environment even when you're not the person who's being. Caged and so I think about. Prison staff to just anyone who has to be in an environment where that level of dehumanisation is happening on a daily basis. It's. I think it's I really think it's dehumanizing for everyone which is not to. Diminish the fact that it is obviously much much worse and much more unfair for the incarcerated people.
"folsom" Discussed on NewsRadio KFBK
"The Department of Finance and others to determine the best method for payment for this voter education campaign. All right, Joe Michael's Thank you. 6, 20 traffic and weather together. Now here's Dana Hess, Samar downtown of the split is where we start. He's found gaps any still got some slow traffic getting away from Midtown that starts around like e now and goes all the way to exposition and then disappears for a bit comes back sometime after Fulton Avenue and goes on toe ETI AA little slowing out there as well. So About nine minutes. He's bound on the Cap City Freeway to the split. Split to Roseville is going to be about nine minutes as well. Downtown. L grope is 11 minutes and I five and little longer 14 minutes on 99 going to Folsom. No issues. No problems. No cares. No worries. 18. That's as you head out to Folsom Boulevard downtown a woodland. It's going to be 16 minutes to Main Street. Nine minutes downtown Davis westbound 80. That's of course, westbound eastbound looks like it has cleared up as well. For trick or treat season. Same art's all about the treats with amazing prices on Halloween goodies for kids, big and small, like T bone steak for just 5 £99 in the max back carbon to fall deals as Samart Valley proud traffic on the tens, every 10 minutes mornings and afternoons. Dana has news 93.1 kfbk. R and brought you by life Source. Water systems. Your KFBK forecast Tonight we'll see mainly clear skies Expect alot tonight 51 to 55 Partly sunny and cool Friday with a high 74 to 78. Saturday will be cool clouds and limited sunshine Saturday will reach a high 76 to 80 I'm AccuWeather's Drew Shana News 93.1 kfbk..
Getting Naked in San Francisco: A History
"Who other than reporter just plot check could take on this not safe for work assignment off she goes from. The state of California has indecent exposure laws, but those only apply if someone is being sexual like masturbating in public or intentionally offensive flashing someone. But what if you're just hanging out naked minding your own business? California leaves that up to local governments. For the first half of the Twentieth Century San Francisco didn't have public nudity laws. FRISKIN S- just didn't go nude much but then the sixties arrived and with it naked people. Some saw disrobing as a form of political artistic or personal expression college students got a taste for streaking and then there were the hippies. It's just delightful to be in I'll be in and that's what this is another exotic prank to add to a growing list of student oriented rites of Spring. It's sort of a happy happening for hippies in San Francisco hippies wanted to get closer to nature and they got naked a lot in golden gate park. Here's a quote from police chief. Thomas Hill it wasn't uncommon for a Gal that come out of the bushes there in the. Panhandle. Without a damn stitch and stand right in front of you with our hands up. I was out in the park in two started going to it on the lawn beside me just to remind you sex is sexual and as such already illegal according to the state. But still conservatives wanted tougher local laws to prevent this kind of behavior and they eventually got nudity banned in the parks. However, the rest of San Francisco was still fair game. As time passed other cities made public nudity illegal among them, San Jose, and Berkeley Berkeley's interesting because it's been mostly due to one naked Guy Andrew Martinez a student at the University of California Berkeley. Decided that American society is sexually repressed and in an effort to write things he began attending classes and going everywhere else in the nude save for a pair of sandals backpack people theorized that Martinez was able to go nude without major complaint for so long because he was easy on the is Martinez attempted shock tactic soon, became old news among his fellow students to me was simply the naked guy. Administrators however sent Martinez home to stay warm until his case can be considered by a student conduct board in Nineteen ninety-two Martinez was expelled showed up naked to his disciplinary hearing at UC. Then in one, thousand, nine, hundred, three here arrived naked to a Berkeley city council meeting members were offended and voted to make public nudity a misdemeanor crime. Back in San Francisco Nudist, enjoy their time in the Sun City developed a reputation for bodies in the buff especially at certain public events like folsom street fair a leather fetish festival or Beta breakers of rambunctious twelve k race who was an exhilarating experience people on the sidelines cheering. Go naked people go. All right. This is a rich Pasco in nineteen, ninety eight he started running naked in Beta breakers. Pasco is also the coordinator of the Bay Area Nature rests we're group of people who believe that the human body is God's divine creation nothing to be ashamed of, and that our interaction with Mother Nature is enhanced by removing the barrier of clothing. POSCO says it wasn't just public events where people could let it all hang out there also newt approved beaches in certain places where nudists would congregate lose a group of people in San Francisco who thought that going new to Jane Warner Plaza would be a good idea. It's that plaza in the Castro with a few benches where the streetcar stops, it's a little urban park. In this little urban park became an urban nude beach,
Getting Naked in San Francisco: A History
"Who other than reporter just plot check could take on this not safe for work assignment off she goes from. The state of California has indecent exposure laws, but those only apply if someone is being sexual like masturbating in public or intentionally offensive flashing someone. But what if you're just hanging out naked minding your own business? California leaves that up to local governments. For the first half of the Twentieth Century San Francisco didn't have public nudity laws. FRISKIN S- just didn't go nude much but then the sixties arrived and with it naked people. Some saw disrobing as a form of political artistic or personal expression college students got a taste for streaking and then there were the hippies. It's just delightful to be in I'll be in and that's what this is another exotic prank to add to a growing list of student oriented rites of Spring. It's sort of a happy happening for hippies in San Francisco hippies wanted to get closer to nature and they got naked a lot in golden gate park. Here's a quote from police chief. Thomas Hill it wasn't uncommon for a Gal that come out of the bushes there in the. Panhandle. Without a damn stitch and stand right in front of you with our hands up. I was out in the park in two started going to it on the lawn beside me just to remind you sex is sexual and as such already illegal according to the state. But still conservatives wanted tougher local laws to prevent this kind of behavior and they eventually got nudity banned in the parks. However, the rest of San Francisco was still fair game. As time passed other cities made public nudity illegal among them, San Jose, and Berkeley Berkeley's interesting because it's been mostly due to one naked Guy Andrew Martinez a student at the University of California Berkeley. Decided that American society is sexually repressed and in an effort to write things he began attending classes and going everywhere else in the nude save for a pair of sandals backpack people theorized that Martinez was able to go nude without major complaint for so long because he was easy on the is Martinez attempted shock tactic soon, became old news among his fellow students to me was simply the naked guy. Administrators however sent Martinez home to stay warm until his case can be considered by a student conduct board in Nineteen ninety-two Martinez was expelled showed up naked to his disciplinary hearing at UC. Then in one, thousand, nine, hundred, three here arrived naked to a Berkeley city council meeting members were offended and voted to make public nudity a misdemeanor crime. Back in San Francisco Nudist, enjoy their time in the Sun City developed a reputation for bodies in the buff especially at certain public events like folsom street fair a leather fetish festival or Beta breakers of rambunctious twelve k race who was an exhilarating experience people on the sidelines cheering. Go naked people go. All right.
"folsom" Discussed on NewsRadio KFBK
"For seven weeks Folsom police are looking for the teens who have been throwing rocks through windows and garage doors in the city well some police say they have six to seven suspects on surveillance but so far no arrests and weather together here's Brian nobles things are looking good on our freeways around Sacramento no accidents right now AT full speed all the way from Roseville sos fifty from Paul from nothing to slow you down coming in from L. Grove on five or ninety nine caps at eight nine minutes either way I mean the splitting highway fifty two traffic every ten minutes mornings and afternoons news ninety three point one K. F. B. K. sunshine mixing with high clouds today and quite warm this afternoon with a high of eighty three to eighty seven and then partly cloudy early tonight mainly clear late tonight fifty seven to sixty one tomorrow mostly sunny and hot with a high of eighty nine to ninety three I'm accu weather meteorologist Joe Lundberg news ninety three point one K. F. B. K. stocks are trading in positive territory today the Dow Jones is up two hundred and fifty eight points S. and P. is up thirty five and the nasdaq up ninety one points right now it's partly cloudy and sixty seven degrees in Sacramento at ten OO for John Byrd IV news ninety three point one KFBK Sacramento is number one for breaking news traffic and weather news ninety three point one F. B. K. this Sunday at five on the next edition of the travel guys brought you by sports leisure vacations consumer advocate and journalist Chris Elliott it's been stuck with this family for a month in Europe because of the virus you'll be on with this on the travel guides to talk about his adventure that's this Sunday five o'clock here on K. I've been I have a phobia against big box stores because I'm claustrophobic but they're big too big too many surprises and scares surprises new flooring new flooring scares you yeah you go to the big box store to get a quote.
"folsom" Discussed on New Jersey 101.5
"AM the other one in Folsom Piney holiday kings mill till next Wednesday traffic every fifteen minutes next report at ten thirty three on New Jersey one a one point five so lows thirty eight to forty two tomorrow morning sun afternoon clouds and late evening showers highs fifty seven to sixty five showers Morristown one thing here little Phil Collins you can't hurry love New Jersey won a one point five she just she told party bridge the mortgage bills one zero little Rick Springfield and Jessie's girl thanks for checking in choose the plan only friends in the latest something's changed fine got it the issue raised it does seem to change you know I feel so dirty when they start talking to you one of the well yes in the the girl behind your own girl ten twenty nine but a big Joe Henry Livin large and loving life welcome to the weekend or weekdays we talk weekends we rock tonight it's the big chill house party but in your party hit requests and dedications let's party Jersey style from our house to your house you give me a call one eight hundred two eight three one one five or make the request the dedications on our app at New Jersey with a one point five on Facebook on chat nobody has more fun with great music I posted another recipe from my sold out cookbook absolutely one of my favorites big Joe's classic lasagna with homemade sauce I love it you'll love it check it out go to NJ one one five dot com for the recipe that's N. J. one of one five dot com will be back we've got jobs traffic weather more of your request your dedications it's all coming up don't go away all right Okey Doke what don't you go away New Jersey won a one point at sprint our priorities keeping our customers employees and communities safe during these uncertain times get the great service you expect without leaving the safety of your home shop at sprint dot com for a best new phone deals like the amazing iPhone eleven Lisa for just fifteen dollars a month when you switch and stay healthy go to sprint dot com or call eight hundred sprint one today at six forty five fifty dollars a month for fourteen seventy monthly credit applied within two bills personal service eighteen month lease and approve credit if you cancel early remaining balance to offering coverage not available everywhere thirty dollar activation fee taxes restrictions apply right it's Jamie progressives number one number two employee leave a message at the paging me it's me Jamie this is your daily pep talk I know it's been rough going ever since people found out about your archipelagos Matt harmony but you will bounce back I mean you're the guy always helping people find coverage options.
"folsom" Discussed on NewsRadio KFBK
"Sixty five sixty three in Folsom sixty four in Davis sixty four in Sacramento views ninety three point one K. F. because it's Kitty o'neill my carry on your case okay afternoon news checking your money now Kelly brothers is with Jennifer he's Burford and brothers the CEO of Levi Strauss says it's ten years he doesn't think will apps are you that they need more men won't be buying Accel or double Accel world forty four code to work you know thirty six inch waist women will be looking for an eight ten twelve whatever they wear that the because of the technology and hear it in your phone you'll be able to buy yourself in such a way that every garment will fit you perfectly without a site number or designation attached to it kind of interesting market overall today a little bit lower as we're getting indications that that baby is one of the trade deal may not happen in twenty nineteen and the markets with bank and it was going to happen in twenty nineteen but not a whole lot of progress recently on that final numbers got at one thirteen at twenty seven eight twenty one nasdaq down forty forty five twenty six the F. B. down eleven points gold out to fourteen seventy four now check your bond yields one point seven four percent and we're back with our conversation with bill port Nova there's something else I wanted to ask you about in today's testimony we heard a lot about the president's inner circle and what they may have known or not known and it became apparent that a lot of people didn't know including secretary state and vice president Mike pence I'm just curious what is at stake for them and the vice president especially well everything that's at stake for everybody involved is political if the voters sit through whatever pressure can be brought to bear you know choose to try to bring down a member of the cabinet they it can be done if they try to choose to if they choose to bring down the president it can be done but they have to have the right people in authority to get rid of people what do you nobody on the trump cabinet is going to resign nobody so the idea that men of honor and women the water get together and do what's best for the country to avoid a political conflict those days are gone I remember them I grew up in those days I remember when Richard Nixon resigned on my birthday I I do remember the Democrats the Republicans getting together and I remember great men of honor like senator Sam Ervin and people would speak up in the entire country would listen nobody exists in this Congress that fits that profile today nobody yeah I mean among the people who went to tell Richard Nixon it was time was Barry Goldwater who is the standard bearer for his party just you know eight years well no ten years before right and what a giant too you know back then people referred to him as sort of a political right wing not looking back he seems like such an area di educated and well spoken gentleman at compared to the brawl that we see everyday but I want to say a couple things that I'm actually encouraged by the men composing Congress don't know how to put on a trial it's the it and it's not their fault they have five hundred thirty five members there aren't nobody agrees on the rules it's not like a federal court room where one person is in charge and they're a hard role so you can't really feel like it's their fault that this is such a mass of a circus but having said that there's a lot of good news to come out of this for us as voters in American citizens in that the professionals who have been lining up to testify under subpoena from the state department from the department of defense elsewhere are really smart hard working dedicated professionals they are not deep state bureaucrat lunatics they are committed public servants who actually speak well speak but fully and apparently are doing a good job in their various positions that gives me a lot of hope for the country surviving the nonsense that's going on right now in Washington it's not the government itself that's crumbling it's just the elected people that are there for now all right Newport Nova thanks again for your insights on this and it brings our time to five twenty five and we'll have the top stories coming up and a press conference from PGA any on news nine three point one K. K. live everywhere on the I heart radio app don't get caught off guard or intentional power shut up.
How Winston Churchill defeated Nazism despite his 'black dog'
"Now today on the show visual defend our island whatever they got maybe we should fight on the beaches on the landing grounds the field and in the street fighting the hill will never surrender churchill the subject of countless plies movies drama series documentaries and biographies indeed believe it or not there have been a thousand Churchill Biographies One thousand the first biography was written in nineteen ninety five and the author of the latest one is our guest today now according to the prominent British columnist and historian Tom and heffer regular guest on this program this most recent Churchill biographies the best single volume imaginable of a man whose life would seem take impossible to get into a single volume the book is called Churchill Walking with destiny and the author is Andrew Roberts who's written other water declined books including a biography on Napoleon and the storm of war a new history of the Second World War Andrew Welcome to ABC Radio Thank you Tony took great on us now as I mentioned they've already been a thousand Churchill books published what's different about yours when I was very fortunate that there's been an enormous amount of sources that have come out over the last five years since I've been writing this book the Queen allows me to be the first Churchill biographer to use of his diaries and came due to sex mets church every Tuesday at the second mobile church who trusted him the great secret civil war and luckily rate down everything churchill say within forty one new sense of papers have been deposed to church college archives in the Cambridge University and other people like the servies investor time I even mice gate rations diaries basic become available giving those same in fact now on top of the dates and accounts of the war cabinet but I discovered six years ago allows me to have some they pretty much every page book it's never appeared in nature to focus okay well let's start with Churchill's upbringing can you tell us about Winston's parents briefly well he's talking to the upper cloth he was a charismatic successful Victorian politician he became chance of Exchan- so you never saw any of genius in Churchill and green to netted frankly they all the Stanford right to any sound full of contempt and to stay and his son Winston continue to love him and Martin and when his father died when Winston was twenty he raises who's focusing in Winston sorry randolph someone's name and he basically didn't allow it to to scream up whereas his mother also route took nations over to she was a great American future in society maybe something offense with the Prince of Wales Austrian about Saddam heels Okay and you went to school did he do you have did you have much luck at school I mean what sort of student was he he was a monster the student and he made himself out to be it's very rare for politicians to try and make themselves out to be thicker than they genuinely All I it should be in fact that being the dumbs 'cause he portrayed himself broke free my life he in fact was in the top third of all the classes ooh okay well let's turn to Churchill politics because he wasn't always a conservative he crossed the parliamentary floor in Nantes in four over the threat four government opposed to free trade in non white at thirty three he was the youngest cabinet member in forty years and then of course he was pretty significant figuring the British military from an early age this is of Relevance to Australians Andrew What do you wrote about his filings glibly in Nineteen fifteen well of course he was responsible for the idea of the of attacking the Straits of the dodgers novels and it was a brilliant idea to come off name one of the great strategic tunes of the of history of all Pfaff but as we all know say silently on the eighteenth of March nineteen fifteen Liane go six ships foods straits and then of course largely town to Him we double down and and landed all the way through fifteen and of course over the next eight months few one hundred forty seven thousand casualties suffered in the in the West Inside Straight so this was a drastic and terrible decision but one boots the real problem came in implementation well yeah okay now we went into politics to elect liberals rejoined the conservatives in the mid nineteen twenties what did he do that because the conservatives came back to the idea of free trade they it'd been the policy that let's say that's the party he joined the Nipples does the Conservatives dumps feature each and David intense you're often attributed with the quite quite I if a man is not a suspect I by the time he's twenty he has no heart if he's not a conservative by the time he's forty he has no brain churchill really say that I am and unfortunately there are lots of great lines like that but he didn't say he might have if you're going to keep going for example make the safest shape about about lady astor drinking coffee around any number of things keeping lucky men like Groucho Marx no power say funny things people with cheating too even if you didn't say those funny things it was talking about Winston Churchill with Andrew Roberts now Andrew your account numerous occasions when Churchill cheated death in your fi. He survived a school stabbing Cuban Bullets Boer Artillery German shells on the western front a near drowning replaying crushes three car accidents and a house fire Croaky and I'm actually very serious mainly at the age of eleven nomadic agent doctors administered brandy to the inevitable and which she wanted to be so you will send you make the point the church will develop the art of seeing virtually everything through the prism of history yeah it was the fact that he wasn't himself from historic congruent several extremely good he's a genius he was widely seen as Virginia wasn't he won the Nobel Prize for literature and actually he's unhappy about that because the price for peace that he was going to win communicants history who actually has been disappointed when he got the Nobel Prize which shop now we talk about a lot of people think of Churchill he's attitude towards the Nazis and Hitler and of course the British policy of appeasement toward Nazi Germany people forget this but in the late thirties it was actually popular with the British people tell us more about how Churchill riled against the spirit of the Times in the lightning thirties well he was only a final team is it's like jeeze you grew up with Jesus father did like the whole day with them they appreciated the service they it says humanity he was honest from quite an early age and saying he had an early warning system came during the Nazis that a lot of the other people in many wrench AC- rights didn't have also were so we mentioned earlier in being an historian he he sold the threat let's go to the European balance of power that we opposed and EDUC- seen fanaticism place in his life in a way that the other primary tonight people standing Naples we will never change and didn't say he was the first major predisposition of the decade the only major politician to not only warn against Hitler Nazis but also talk with an idea about what do I e rearming especially in the air the by the way you know you obviously know John Howard our second longest serving prime minister did you know that he's middle name is Winston it was named by his parents in mid Naughty thirty nine? When as we've discussed Winston Churchill was anything but the flavor of the month he was seen as yesterday's man rod that shows John's parents and Great must be full size. This is searching tremendously impressive actually I didn't know that's in Ann Arbor got I think yeah well during the war Churchill husband and relations with the United States which meant that America applied an important role in helping Britain defeat awesome but what about the altar pace conference towards the end of World War Two was not Churchill's finest hour why well because they back large number of famine of Yugoslavs to to get to Marshal Tito too because he he basically killed them and a hand backlog Germans and ethnic Germans who an ethnic Russians as well actually Cossacks to stone promptly murdered them as well so as far as the share sort of real politique day was concerned they had to believe result in general had to believe starlings were vulne- that he was going to get to respect the integrity and independence another eastern European countries but unfortunately Adelson those deals went shot which net new Mexico's yeah false assurances by S- talented the free elections would be held in eastern Europe but I mean you bit hot on Churchill because many historians would decide that the dying FDI he essentially stitched Churchill up I didn't believe that case I've been I've found myself we H mccown superbowl cabinet Churchill held on return from Yalta in which very much that he thought he could business was done in the deeper deep stalling the only alternative to trust on of course he was for that much thin walls and it's very other fueled fairness of course because in a million Russian soldiers variant at the time he was also at Folsom Missouri in March Ninety six When you made the Great Iron Kerr in speech the first major Western politician to warn against started was doing in eastern Europe
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"Ninety eight degrees in Folsom it's a hundred right now in Davison ninety eight in Sacramento at news ninety three point one K. if because president trump says he will release a transcript of another phone call between him and the Ukrainian president speaking to reporters at the United Nations trump explain the White House transcript released today was from a second call he noted that he is being asked for the first phone conversation and that he'll release that too if it's important trump explained that he revealed the first transcript was because he was getting such fake news and thought it would be better the U. S. constitution says the grounds for impeaching a president include treason bribery or other high crimes and misdemeanors if the case Joe Michael's talk to the local constitutional expert to find out just what that includes Joe well Mike high crimes and misdemeanors what are they George. law school professor Dr Leslie kilo Jacobs says they don't necessarily have to be offenses that a person could be tried for and convicted in court the way that the framers of the constitution wrote this process they intended for it to be a political judgment that Congress makes about whether to remove another democratically elected leader professor Jacobs says that means the process is open to interpretation it's interesting to look at where the framers of the constitution quickly impeachment process because they made the explicit judgment that it would go with these political bodies as opposed to putting conditions of crimes with the court which means the process has the potential to be politically motivated as long as the Senate has its current composition your conviction would be quite difficult to obtain that of course because it takes a two thirds majority of the Senate to impeach now regarding Nancy Pelosi and her timing of going into this in query I asked professor Jacobs was a political or because of the severity of the breaches severity of the breach here or perhaps the cumulative nature of the creatures as for who might benefit from the way the impeachment process is set up professor Jacobs says that really depends on the details of any particular situation getting all right Jim Michaels there thank you and we are pulling you do you think from what you know of the call with Ukrainian president is that a grounds for impeachment you can weigh in and keep the kit are calm and the afternoon news with Kitty o'neill nearly fifty thousand P. Jeannie customers were put the dark last night when the utility shut off power in the Sierra foothills in the North Bay wine country the shut off was in response to dry blustery conditions which increased fire danger Randy Marleau says the crews are now inspecting nearly twenty eight hundred miles of power lines which were shot off we have helicopters in the local area is ready to go out and patrol and really work to get as much of the inspection done and we can at all inspectors are looking for damage that may have occurred during the wind event the lines can't be. energized until the inspections are complete the genie says they can only inspect the lines during daylight hours so it's a likely some customers won't see their power come back on until Thursday although they have told us that all customers in cinema county have had their power restored as a four o'clock and they're working also on napa county to to perhaps have restoration by this evening our review of state and federal testing data has shown the extent of toxic chemicals and drinking water for California the nonprofit environmental working group found forms of chlorinated chemicals and drinking water sources for seventy four community water systems the data comes from the state water resources control board and the EPA between twenty thirteen and twenty nineteen some of those water sources have since been taken off line the chemicals have been used in anti stand products and carpets studies of link those chemicals to a variety of health problems including cancer immune system issues and liver and thyroid problems last month the state water resources control.
"folsom" Discussed on To Live
"A spy job with really silly and so yeah i had a meeting recently <hes> for the first time ever <hes> i went to meet movie company and at the front door at reception exception. They made me sign an n._d._a. Before he walked past reception yeah common what i've never seen that before i've been to you. Don't get that at amblin rambling. You don't get that at abrahams disney divisions. They make you sign away your life before you can even walk in the building. This is my first experience with that that and it was lebron. James's company weird thing yeah. Wow okay so you're used to that. Okay i mean marvel. You have to sign in lucasfilm. You have to sign in here. You have to sign it and it's just because the projects are just up on the wall and so how did you first get hooked pixar. <hes> let me think i mean i <hes> i'd written a <hes> a <hes>. I've i've worked for pretty much. Every the division of disney <hes> except for disney animation and pixar was really the only one that was left so i i felt like they were just like let's complete her loose by the way not how it works that they're trying to create an even playing field like that yeah yeah no. It was just strange because i just got like a a small job for disney on live ac live action <hes> which i think kind of got my foot in the door and all that project didn't move forward. I like that built up goodwill so then they referred me for the marvel job and then the marble job referred me for the pixar job which referred me <hes> to some stuff that i've done it lucasfilm lucasfilm as well so i think it's just building those relationships and you know if people like to work with you do good work. It just leads to more work fortunately <music>. I'm like knock on wood. That's how it should work and how often does not work but that's a that's really great yeah and i i. I'm i feel very very very lucky. I mean i'm sure my career go dancing at some point because that's just the nature of things but i'm on like oh. I'm employed. Thank goodness but i mean yeah. The nice thing is that you know a lot of times with with independent film or with you know even it especially almost with <hes> with big studio films they go through. You know what five five six seven writers writers keep getting fired and hired back on and so forth but you know it sounds like working at some of these companies where you're just you're so much more and mashed ashed. You're on the campus. You're out of l._a. And san francisco it just feels. I don't know it feels like m- more like a normal job than the than the usual treachery the hollywood it. This is the first time i ever felt like i have a normal job and it took me a little while to be okay with that because i was just like wait. I have to be somewhere added time. I'm going to have to put on makeup. Oh jeez do like the end do you. Can you imagine going back to a world where you're you're just sitting in your underpants in your living room writing spec scripts yeah i can i think because that's essentially like my basic nature. Ah that's your zone. I mean yeah i think i think all of us writers like all have i mean well. We can be extroverted hearted and very friendly like there's an introvert. That's just like i just wanna hide and really pretend completely completely. Well okay so how did <hes> and how did you first start working for any of these companies and my right that you had a black oh script that was sort of your first big thing and you know made a lot of waves and got you oughta meetings. Yeah i mean that was the person that attention but of course before that blacklist script there were dozens of scripts that were just in a drawer and <hes> i well look should never ever be taken out of that drawer. You know and i think i finally just <hes> i was. I was actually about to quit the business just because i was getting getting so frustrated with all the nose and i was like what am i doing with my life. You know and i think that frustration became the script. I wrote nineteen sixty-nine a space odyssey and i think i was just like i'm not. I don't care if it's commercial. I don't care if anybody likes it. I'm sick of all of this like. I'm just going to do something. I like so i <hes> i'm a huge sinophile so i was like oh stanley kubrick. You know i love conspiracies. I you don't necessarily believe in all of them because they don't think people are that together <hes> but but i love conspiracies and i love space and science i just kinda took all oh that's passions and was like wrote about that you know in my scrupulous about stanley kubrick faking the moon landing <hes> and alternate history yeah. It's an alternate history and it's told from the point of view of a p a woman who <hes> p._r. At nasa who is really trying to like prove herself and make away and in a complete man's world of space exploration <hes> so that ended up being an i think a lot of my frustration like went into her characters of of why do they keep telling me no and and then that ended up just striking a nerve and i was i was surprised because i i just expected to just like write that get it on my system and then just be like hey you know it didn't work like i'll always have to write for me. You know i may not be able to do this is living. I'll just have to do it as a hobby and then that hit and then i've been working ever since then so <hes> that's awesome so first. The question is when you're thinking about quitting the business. What would what would you do inside <hes>. I didn't really have an answer which i i think is is probably a good thing. I was just like oh like maybe i can move back in with my parents and maybe i'll teach. I don't think i seriously made a plan b <hes> because i didn't really envisioned myself being anything else and i think that to do this crazy crazy business. You have to be incapable of doing anything else. If you can do anything else go do that do that because this is this is not i mean i love what i do and i feel so lucky to do what i do but i mean you have to be a bit of a masochist your thous one percent right because it's it's doesn't always work on you know. It's not like talent always rises. It's yeah the people who should be rewarded. Are everything takes way longer than you want it to. It's up. It's a really tough business a friend of mine <hes> jesse stern says that it's a war of attrition it is yeah and the people who stick around and have that requisite talented the ones who make it yeah and i would say that yeah i just i just thought for a while l. and finally someone noticed when i was about to cash it in like how close were you to cashing in. I literally was like if i was like if nobody responds bonds to this <hes> in some manner i mean i wasn't like oh. It has to sell. It has anything but i'm like if i can't even get like a meeting off of this then i we need to seriously reevaluate and then how'd you feel when it got onto the blacklist. How'd you find out that it was on the blacklist <hes> <hes> they they call you like you find out like a couple of days before it announces that's going to be on that and i found out from my manager 'cause they called him to get like all my my my representation filo and the log line and all of that and then he was like he's like so the black book called winning all this. I think you're on the blacklist awesome. Tom and i was like really. Have you been with the same agency yeah i have. I mean they all signed on with me. Before i got on the blacklist they read the script and they're into it and so i feel like if they were with me when i had nothing like they're. They're pretty good wreck yeah but that's also you know that's a lot about you that you're staying loyal to them and hopefully they're still doing a good job. I mean yeah. I and it's funny me because i feel like i mean most writers just gripe about their reps and is like mine have always thought and worked really hard for me and so i'm <hes> <hes> i. I think that i think it's important that when you're picking a wrap your not just like grateful for anything that comes your way that you actually like. I have to have have a working relationship with these people and are these people that you know. I want to have a working relationship with talk to on a daily basis you know like would would i invite them over for dinner. I think those are all like really strong considerations. You have to have when picking your representation no good point <hes> it also will prevent and resentment down the line if you feel like they haven't done as much as you want them to and you're still giving them ten percents and if you actually like the people and you know if you're fond of them personally than i think they'd probably lessons oh completely and you always have to have an open dialogue. You know i mean if you feel like something's not working. Thank you just gotta be like hey like. I'm like this isn't working like how do we figure this out and you know and if they're not willing to have that conversation and come to a solution then you know that's the sign like oh. Maybe we need to break up and you said <hes> you wrote the script about ceiling kubrick because you were a big sinophile. What are what were the important movies to growing up. <hes> i grew up just watching and a lot of old movies on cable television <hes> <hes> so i would have to say like the big influencers for me or i loved the third man orson welles right yeah. I just think get has one of the best character deductions ever with harry line. <hes> i really love <hes> casting. The sundance. Kid is a huge. I i think like william goldman was like the first screenwriter that actually really became aware of so many people have that same story and and i was just like oh like he just he does something that's so hard where he perfectly combines drama and pathos with humor yeah and <hes> it's it's the secret combo that that very few people can really hit but when you hit that note i think that's when you get real the old yeah no could not agree more and so you know actually asked you <hes> if there was a scene from someone else's work that you wanted to play and talk about from a craft perspective <hes> you picked a clip from butch cassidy the sundance kid by william goldman robert redford as the sundance kid and paul newman is butch cassidy the city they are late nineteenth century outlaws basically running from the sheriff and his group has posse um and they find themselves on the edge of the cliff on the edge of a cliff in the scene that we're about to play and below them is running water. You're going to hear the rushing water <hes> <hes> throughout the clip and so they're completely cornered in there <hes> trying to figure out what to do so let's play the clip fight.
"folsom" Discussed on To Live
"<music> from the campus of university. This is to live and dialogue in allah. I married tracy no new episode this week and apologies that it's been awhile you can expect a whole new season once classes start up again this fall. We've some amazing guests coming out in a few my personal heroes actually in the meantime. We're reposting our conversation. Shen with stephanie folsom who wrote the biggest movie outright now toy story four. It's got great. Reviews and people seem to really respond to stephanie's work on it so for everyone going to see hitter just thought here's a deep dive into the pixar screenwriting process with stephanie backseat <hes> broncos <music> <music> hi stephanie. It's.
Li-Fi Makes New Waves in Aerospace Industry
"The university of Alabama school of law online, choose between an l l m and tax or business transactions for lawyers or jurists master in taxation for non-lawyers. Connect. And learn with live lectures details. Had Bama by distance dot U, A dot EDU. This is tech news briefing, im Tanya, Bustos reporting from the newsroom in New York. Coming up, you've heard of wifi. That's old news. It's all about life. I now much faster than WI fi. It has become one of the biggest innovations in the aerospace industry. Lightning fast internet on aircrafts is about to take off more after these tech headlines. The FBI is looking into whether lab testing startup, you bio used improper billing codes in claims and sought payment for unnecessary tests. You buy ohm had been trying to build a business on testing patients microbiomes the microorganisms in the gut, and other parts of the body based on emerging science that suggests microbes can play a role in health as the Wall Street Journal. Previously reported FBI agents searched the company's San Francisco offices in April step to date with the very latest on the probe and the tech behind it at wsJcom. The CIO journal says information technology executives are pushing to make their systems, more energy efficient developing and tweaking software to cut waste. And now tracking how much energy their operations consume. IT leaders are choosing to play a bigger role in reducing the energy consumption of the hardware, and software as well. A crucial part of this is the companies moved to the public cloud, which of course, cuts down on energy guzzling data centers. Take atlassian Corp Sydney-based maker of online collaboration tools for business. For instance, the company aims to run all of its direct operations primarily buildings on one hundred percent renewable energy, including wind and solar by twenty twenty five and care for one of Europe's largest grocery retailers is unloading most of its operations in China were big box retailers are struggling to keep up with nimble delivery providers the kind that are currently winning over shoppers. The move also marks. The latest retreat by a western company in China in the face of stiff competition from home, grown rivals care for is selling an eighty percent stake in its Chinese business, including more than two hundred stores. This comes at a price tag of about seven hundred million dollars. The French company wants a dominant force in many tiny cities saw its sales in the market fall, five point nine percent last year. This comes as western companies are finding the country, brutally competitive and fraught with regulatory hurdles McDonald's. Hewlett Packard and Uber. Armone those who have pulled back or chain strategy in recent years. Coming up picture this lightning fast internet on aircraft. That uses light to transmit signals have the airspace industry is taking it to the next level with life by the university of Alabama school of law online Jews between an l l m and tax or business transactions for lawyers or jurists master and taxation for non-lawyers. Connect and learn with live lectures detail. At Bama by distance dot UA dot EDU. One of the biggest innovations showcased at the recent Paris air show. The one that still has all the airspace enthusiasts talking is life by French company pardon. My French and I mean this, I'm sorry let's say co year. Claims lie fi is up to one hundred times faster than WI fi. Here's surge Barringer senior VP for research and tech at the company explaining the difference. So the wifi is working with a radio frequency. Where was your life fibroids with, like making life by even more notable? It eliminates the sensitivity to radio frequencies, a frequency was impacting health, Folsom, people addict sensitive fall some others that doesn't work but know not lots of a wifi embedded in the prophets. It will impactful her of people in town and for all the five G hype. Here's where something like five G really comes into. Play for WI fi. It's by cutting the costs of satellite operations, which then makes more of the tech free for airlines and passengers to use for the satellite communication gonna do the across to the rest of the will does have limited bandwidth, but in the coming years to sip all to the five G deployment, launch number of satellites willow to reduce the cost of set. Calm and enable and support the deployment of five G himself countries will be faster than in others, but in a long term, you will have a better and cheaper connection than in these today to from from your cuff to the rest of the will catch up with more of what you may have missed. The Wall Street Journal, has full coverage of the latest in airspace technology. That's it for the tech news briefing from the newsroom in New York. I'm Tanya boosters. Thanks for listening.
Stan Lee's ex-manager arrested for elder abuse
"News, business partner and friend of marvel comic. But creator Stanley is now under arrest on a warrant from the P Morgan arrested in Arizona Phoenix and Scottsdale. Police accused of elder abuse against Stanley before his death last November. The PD says lease estate was worth fifty million dollars. And there were no clear protection stopping someone from taking advantage that Morgan stepped in allegedly taking hundreds of thousands of dollars from Lee Morgan is also accused of. Folsom imprisonment for allegedly movingly out of Hollywood hills home and into a condo. Morgan is facing a list of charges, including elder, abuse and expected to be extradited
Gunman in 2012 shooting rampage at California college dies in prison
"A man serving a life sentence for fatally shooting seven people at his northern California vocational college has died in prison. The California Department of corrections and rehabilitation said Wednesday that fifty year old the one go died at Folsom California state prison on March twentieth. Go was convicted of killing seven and injuring three people during the shooting of waco's university a Christian college in Oakland. He told investigators he was angry with the school administrators for expelling him and refusing to refund is tuition CDC. Are spokeswoman Vicki water said it causes of death hasn't been determined. She did not respond to requests for more
"folsom" Discussed on KSFO-AM
"We go Folsom lake college, Folsom lake college notified local police. They found a poster of a cartoon frog. A cartoon frog. And the frog was stating hate has no home on our campus. So a fulsome lake cabinet making any of this up Folsom lake college. I'm guessing that's like Sacramento area. Folsom lake one assume anyway, Folsom lake faculty member found the sheet, featuring Pepe the frog. Are there office door earlier this month the school informed? The police department about the incident. So it could be on heightened alert for any signs that this may be a part of a larger trend or pattern according to an Email sent to the schools community and obtained by campus reform. So it's just trying to help you out here, folks. This is a picture of a smirking frog named pepper. Appearing alongside other posters pertaining to fascist dog whistles Democrats socialis of America and week of social Justice events that have been taking place on campus. So what they're saying here. This is the NFL see president Folsom lake college president. This is an Email from their president's saying Pepe. This is a frog. This is a cartoon frog. Pepe Pepe has been commonly co opted by white supremacists. And others as a symbol of bigotry. While we do not immediately know the intentions of the persons who posted the picture, we are treating this incident with the highest level of seriousness at have already conducted a sweep of all Folsom lake college campuses to look for other instances of these materials. It's a frog. Pepe the frog started off as an internet meme that's where he came from. And he had different he had different emotions. So there was like mad Pepe. And there were smug Pepe which is the one that you're seeing does it have anything to do with fascism or white supremacy? What happened is the character? He he he ended up somehow associated with the quote, unquote, all right movement, and since then the left has been all anti Pepe. And every time they see him. They associate him with the hate symbol. And I'm not I can't make this up. Oh my gosh. So they the Anti-Defamation League added certain and added certain versions of Pepe the frog to their database of hate symbols back in two thousand sixteen but they also added to the page that not all Pepe memes are racist. We are talking about a cartoon Meam frog. The who decides which ones are racist. And would right. Defamation league apparently. Well, what they clearly need to do is they need to scour the internet and find all the pep as associated with you know, maga- there's a wearing a maga- hat out there. And you know, like Kermit, the frog better get better. Yeah. Permits or something? You bet. Yeah. Just disassociate now, man. Okay. So here's the other one you ready for this. I mean, if I'm sure there are lawmakers in Sacramento sake. We want to be number one. And number one in California means being first. So literally there are lawmakers up at Oregon. That are seeking to lower the voting age to are you ready for this drum roll, please drum roll, please..
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Trump renews attacks on protesting NFL players
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Zach Lowe on Kawhi Leonard - NBA
"A lot of it doesn't have anything to do pertain to winning getting lebron james is a heck of a a get by the lakers i think the roster building outside of that has been for me a little bit peculiar usually you're trying to surround james with as much shooting instability as you can and it looks like they've actually gone just the opposite of that very little shooting and some unique personalities to incorporate alongside james because lonzo ball rondo all those guys they're not gonna handle as much as they normally handle because if they do in james doesn't have it then that makes no sense either so i found the james acquisition to be for them obviously a great day in laker history but as far as the rest of the roster construction it's been a little peculiar to me so the thought processes at the spurs will ultimately trade why to his destination being the lakers but not so fast as tom throw a bleacher report who joined freddie and fitz simons top choice for collides camp is not the lakers anymore ever since lebron james went to the lakers tune has changed lebron james is the guy and kawhi leonard guy essentially michael barry report david was that he doesn't want to play for the lakers second fiddles and lebron actually he does angeles clippers you know if you're a team like the philadelphia seventy sixers most confusing is if you're going to give up the farm for kawhi leonard and you know that he wants to make it back to california you know i'm going to be a real reluctant to put in marquel folsom that deal with the miami twenty twenty one pick that holds a lot of value being unprotected and who knows what happens with the mind eating a couple of years seventy sixers have the assets to get a deal done but if you can't guarantee that he's gonna stay long term that's really difficult at the end of the day i think i think kawhi leonard is going to end up in the philadelphia seventy sixers organization simply because i think colli leonard would make a lot of sense going east that's straight talk wireless nationwide coverage on america's.